HR2 Healthcare Held Hostage: The Fight to Let Nurses Do Their Jobs. GOP Tax Bill. 5-22-25 by John Rush
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All right, we are back. Hour 2, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And our next guest, Jamie Cavanaugh, joining us now. Jamie, welcome. How are you?
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You’re doing fine, thanks.
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Hey, I appreciate you joining us. And I’m sorry, normally in my notes, I have all sorts of bios and things like that, and I don’t have anything in here about you that I can introduce you with.
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Well, I can say I’m legal policy counsel at Pacific Legal Foundation.
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Awesome.
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Pacific Legal Foundation of the National Public Interest Nonprofit.
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Yep. Have folks on from there quite often. So I appreciate you joining us. May is Mental Health Month, which there’s, as we know, Jamie, there’s a lot of, how should I say, discussion around that. And it’s something that continues to get talked about more and more. But the topic today with you is let nurses work.
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Exactly, exactly. We just came out with a new report talking about how we could increase healthcare workforce immediately by allowing nurse practitioners to just practice to the full scope of their authority, or sorry, practice to the full scope of their training. Do everything that they’ve already been trained in school to do. They have a lot of different restrictions. It varies by state. but they do things like mental health practices. We are representing some nurse practitioners in California right now who are both mental health nurse practitioners, so it relates to mental health as well. But they can do primary care. They can be midwives and deliver babies and stuff like that too.
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So some of these restrictions that are happening in different states, I mean, what are we looking at? What kind of restrictions are placed upon them? How do we help you guys fight against some of these things? How do we do that?
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Yeah, so 35 states actually allow advanced practice nurses to practice independently. So that means they can go out and do everything that they’ve been trained in school to do, and that helps the labor shortage in health care. But then there’s all these other states that have this checkerboard of requirements. Some states say you have to practice under a physician for a certain number of hours, thousands of hours. And so you’re paying a doctor for the privilege of getting to do your job. But some states say you have to have those agreements forever. We call them collaborative practice agreements. And some states, every nurse practitioner has to pay a doctor every month for the privilege of doing their job. And this isn’t like a direct working relationship. There’s surveys of nurse practitioners in those states where they say they go months without talking to their supervising physician. And the fact that they practice independently in more than half the states already shows, you know, we would have good evidence if there were higher medical malpractice rates or something like that.
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Yeah, and I think that’s what one of the first things, at least in all the interviews and things that I have done here, one of the first things that people, you know, kind of bring up when it comes to nurse practitioners are, okay, wait a minute, they’re not free. full-bore doctors. They’re about as close as you can get, and I don’t even know, Jamie, the difference in schooling from one to another. That’s not my field of interest, so I can’t explain that. But to your point, if they were doing a really bad job and we had all sorts of issues, we’d have all sorts of claims against them, right?
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Exactly. We would have really good data showing differences, but instead we see positive outcomes, lower wait times to find primary care in states that have full practice authority, lower costs. Also, there are estimates about how much we could save the health care system overall if we would allow nurse practitioners to practice independently because it could help divert patients. some lower acuity cases away from emergency rooms.
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Right, right. Which is huge costs, as we know. I mean, what you just said there a moment ago, I’ve talked about on this program many, many times. The dollars spent, especially when it comes to low-income families, Medicaid, things like that, the emergency room visits are just killing us.
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That’s exactly right. And the other thing is that nurse practitioners are more likely to work in rural areas. Correct. And of course, I mean, there’s no rural area in the country that says, oh, we have enough doctors, you know, we don’t need any more health care. Right. They all are hurting for health care and primary care and mental health care, all of those things. And so we see much greater access in rural areas and states that have already implemented full practice authority.
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Some of the way I’ve looked at this as well, and correct me if I’m wrong, I get it that a nurse practitioner is not a full-bore doctor. Although, as you just stated, we don’t have a lot of claims coming in against them on the malpractice end of things, which, by the way, we do when it comes to a lot of full-bore doctors and a lot of reasons why I’m not going to go down that path. But here’s my thought when it comes to nurse practitioners in that line of of things that are going on when it comes to insurance and so on. And I’ll be careful I say this because I don’t want to offend any doctors or folks that are out there listening, but I have known some of these individuals. I’ve met some doctors that get this God complex because they kind of think they’re all-knowing and everything they do In some cases, they don’t even want to recheck something because they already know. And my feeling with nurse practitioners, Jamie, is that because they may not know and they don’t get that complex, they may actually be a little more thorough and make sure that they’re not making any mistakes, knowing that they’ve actually got others to answer to at times. Because of that factor, I think in some cases they’re more thorough than some doctors are. Am I wrong in my thinking?
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No, I think that’s right. I think that they do want to take the time to get to know their patients. They have a different background coming from nursing, you know, having a nurse training, which is a totally different type of, you know, bedside manner and patient experience. And then nurse practitioners are the first people that will refer the patient to someone else when it goes beyond the scope of what they’re allowed to do.
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So, again, my feelings on that aren’t that far off, I don’t think, when it’s all said and done. Okay, so when it comes to allowing them to do more of what they’re doing, how can we help?
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So we’re seeing bills introduced in a lot of states to allow for full practice authority that’s independent practice, practice where you’re not paying a doctor every month to work. increases the number of nurse practitioners that we see there’s been studies that look at states that have full practice authority that border states that don’t and of course they find you know statistically significant increases in access to primary care and availability of nurse practitioners but yeah the thing we have to do is is ask our state legislators to change these laws because this is all part of occupational licensing restrictions okay
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All right, that makes sense. So those are things that here in Colorado we will definitely watch for those. How do folks find out more of what’s going on at the Pacific Legal Foundation?
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You can visit our website, pacificlegal.org. Our new report that’s out is called Restrictions to Care, and that’s available at pacificlegal.org as well.
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Awesome. Jamie, I appreciate it very much. Thanks for all of your info, and we will continue to stay up on that. And if anything changes and you want to come back and let us know, please do.
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Thanks, John.
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Thank you very much, Jamie. Appreciate it very much. Again, Pacific Legal Foundation, we have folks on from there on a periodic basis. Appreciate her time today as well, and it’s something that we will definitely stay up on top of here in the future as we go down that path. Golden Eagle Financial, Al Smith did a great interview here of late. Stay tuned. He’ll be up, and then I’ll be right back after Al. You can also find Al at klzradio.com.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I’m doing great. How are you, TJ? I’m doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
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No, I don’t prepare my clients’ taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it’s working.
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And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
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What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won’t they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
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Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
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Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
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This is John Rush. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Speaking of mental health, and yes, this, in my opinion, involves mental health because there was Israeli embassy staffers that were killed, this was late last night, in a shooting outside of a Jewish museum. in Washington. And this is a man that shouted, free Palestine. He is now in custody in connection with the shooting. And I can hardly wait for all of the lefties to somehow justify what this guy did. All of the knuckleheads that are on the free Hamas campaign. side of the aisle. And I believe they tried to stop Ilmar Ohan today as she was exiting the Capitol to try to get her statement, if you would, on that. And of course, she gives none. She just hurries up and gets in the car and off she goes. What a coward, by the way. Just shows you where her true loyalty is. But Again, our thoughts and prayers go out to these particular families that now have to deal with this. I mean, again, you can’t imagine getting that type of a phone call. These are individuals that are not citizens of the United States of America either. They were here on behalf of they were doing some other things that they were here. And this would happen to be a celebration that they went to. late last night at the Capital Jewish Museum, and this knucklehead, this murderer, I don’t know what else to call him, Rodriguez, he was from Chicago, Elias, Elias Rodriguez is who actually killed these two individuals. He Killed him and then discarded the gun and implied that he had committed the shooting. That was right after the shooting had happened. Then he was chanting, free, free Palestine, while being taken into custody. And yes, this is a mentally ill individual. This is somebody that is very, very, very misguided. Now, I do want to add in that a lot of this has to do with the thoughts and processes that are on the left side of the aisle. Those of you that are on that side of the aisle, I’m sorry to say, you’re part of the problem. You’re creating this. You guys won’t stand up and denounce this stuff enough. Some of you do, but most of you don’t. And because of, this continues on. We’ve got situations going on in college campuses that shouldn’t be going on and have been going on for far too long. Now, fortunately, we’re starting to pull visas and even pull the – I think they pulled the Harvard visa program. I think that happened. Kristi Noem, I believe, did that either yesterday or today, actually pulling their visa program, not allowing students to come in to Harvard because of these sorts of things. And the fact that colleges won’t crack down on this like they should. And no, this isn’t free speech, folks. This is not free speech. There’s a difference. We’ve talked about that numerous times on this program. And these students running around and doing what they’re doing, it’s not free speech. There’s a difference. So those of you that are on the left claiming that, that’s not how it works. You would be saying the exact same thing if the roles were reversed, by the way. Trust me, I know that for a fact. You guys definitely would be saying that if the roles were reversed. And you are part of the problem. Those of you on the left, these sorts of things, you’re part to blame. Your party, your side, you are part to blame. You guys are first to come out and attack the conservative side if a bunch of skinheads run around and kill people. You’re the very first to talk about how that’s our fault, that’s Donald Trump’s fault, so on and so forth. It’s not. We don’t associate with those individuals in any way, shape, or form. We don’t pacify them. We call them out as needed. The problem is your side doesn’t call these people out. You don’t call them out. You pacify them. In fact, in some cases, you’re right there with them. And then you wonder why these things happen. You’re the problem. Your side won’t call this out. So those of you that listen to me that are on the left, you need to really think about that. Two people lost their lives last night because of a nut job on your side. Interesting that it’s a nut job on your side that probably doesn’t even believe in owning guns and probably is a huge anti-Second Amendment person and so on, and yet uses that to go out and do this, showing one more time that it’s not the gun that kills the people, it’s the whack job behind it that does. The Looney Tune. In this case, the Looney Tune lefty. Yes, this person’s from the left because, no, we on the right don’t do this. These two young people, by the way, and I call them young people because they were 26 and 30 years of age. And yes, I can say young people. Some of you that are younger would say, well, they’re old. No, no, they’re very young. Trust me, Charlie and I both can attest to this. They have a lot of life left at 26 and 30. So very sad. Should not be happening. This stuff needs to get cured. This nonsense of people in this country being on the side of Hamas is absolutely a joke. They have no idea, none whatsoever, as to what they’re talking about. No clue as to the history of what’s happened over there. Zero. They have been filled with a bunch of nonsense from teachers and professors and media. And those of you that are on the left, they have been literally filled with utter nonsense. Have no idea what they’re talking about. Feel these people need freed some way, somehow. I have no idea what they’re talking about. If you want to free them from anything, free them from Hamas. They’re the terrorist organization that, by the way, hides in hospitals and schools and mosques and things like that because they’re a bunch of cowards. And yes, that’s exactly what they are and exactly what they do. And they hide behind those things. And then they wonder why Israel comes in and takes them out. Because you’re a thug. You’re a terrorist. And you ought to be. You should be eliminated from the planet. Done. You’re out of here. So those of you that are on the side of Palestine, again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. No clue. It’s interesting, too, that in all the time I’ve talked about these sorts of things, I have yet to hear one single person ever call in to this program and try to defend Hamas or the whole Palestine end of things. Not one person. And I know why, because you can’t defend it. It’s defenseless. And you’ve got wackadoodles like this running around killing people, talking about freeing Palestine. I mean, what a bunch of whack jobs. So talking about the whole mental health thing that we were talking about a moment ago with our last guest, there’s another example of somebody that is definitely mentally ill. So, all right. One thing I want to talk about, we can come back and get into this, too, right after we do the break here in a few minutes. But the Republican bill, you know, Trump’s big bill, it passed. There are some things in it that some didn’t like. It didn’t pass fully. It’s passed the House going to the Senate. It will have some hurdles to jump over going through the Senate. But there’s a lot of folks out there. Andy and I talked before the show today, and there’s a lot of folks out there, even on our side, here locally even, that are criticizing the bill and, you know, this shouldn’t be in there and that shouldn’t be in there. And you know what? That’s going to be the case of every bill you run through like this. Those of you, how do I say this? Those of you that want perfection, you’re never going to get it. You want the bill to be perfect and be perfectly the way that you want the Liberty Caucus. They want the thing to be exactly perfect or they’re not going to sign on. Folks, you don’t get it that way. That’s not how this works. That’s not how politics works. You have to compromise. You have no choice. I don’t like some of the salt stuff, the raising of the salt caps. I don’t care for that. That means that I and my tax dollars are paying for somebody that decides to live in New Jersey, New York, places like that. No, I don’t agree with doing that. Why should I be subsidizing them? I shouldn’t. But that’s some of the stuff that was in this bill. And frankly, if you’re somebody that’s representing those areas, you’re going to do everything you possibly can to do so. I understand that. That’s part of what goes on when it comes to these bills. By the way, it only passed by one vote, 215 to 214 in the House, one lawmaker voting present. So, again, now we’ll go to the Senate, and you can go out and read all the different things on it, what’s in it and so on. I’m not going to get into all of the details on that. They raised the salt cap from 30 to 40K. Again, it’s not a huge change at the end of the day, but still, is it a bad taste in my mouth? Yes, it is. Am I going to lose sleep over this? No, I’m not. There’s other people that are accusing, you know, and by the way, there’s accusations from both sides of the aisle, ours and the others. Some hardcore Republicans don’t like certain things in it. Of course, there’s a lot of lefties that don’t like a lot of things that are in it. There’s things in it I don’t care for. I just mentioned some of those. But at the end of the day, do I personally feel that this will move some things forward and help the economy when it’s all said and done? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. We’ll talk with Scott Garlis at 530 about some of that end of things a little bit more. But, yes, I do believe at the end of the day it will. So it’s also extending some of the old tax breaks, which, again, I’m not even a fan of some of the old tax breaks. I’m getting tired of ex-taxpayers not paying, ex-people not paying. Now, one thing that will start to happen is some people that have been net tax receivers because they make X amount of money and they don’t pay any taxes, any income taxes. When you start talking about tariffs and things like this, and I do believe this is where Trump is much smarter than he gets credit for, those people will start paying some taxes. Because, yes, I know, tariffs are taxes. I get it. And I get who pays them. But keep in mind, there are a lot of people out there that pay no taxes. Zilch. Zero. They will now. When they go to Walmart and what that item was that they were once buying is $3, $4, $5 more than it used to be because of tariffs, they’re paying a tax. Because those tariffs go back in the coffers. It’s like a tax, basically. That’s where that tariff money goes. So where people have never been paying any taxes, as we start going through some of these tariffs and so on, they will be. Now, some, the Fed and others, think that that’s terrible, it’s going to cause inflation and so on. Really, at the end of the day, it won’t, because we’ve got other things that are offsetting that to where they won’t be. But at the end of the day, will they be paying some tax where they may have not been paying any in the past? Yes. Now, when I say tax, I mean income tax. I get it. Everybody, even if they’re paying rent, is paying property tax and they pay sales tax and things like that. I understand that. They pay their FICA tax if they make some money and they’ve got Social Security taken out and so on. I get that. So please don’t text and correct me on that. I get that. I’m talking income tax. There are a lot of no income taxpayers in this country. Far too many, in my opinion. And some of that came from, this is where Trump doesn’t get any credit because the left will constantly criticize him of giving tax breaks to the rich. They forget about all of these that aren’t paying any taxes because of those tax breaks. The fact that there was actually more of them under Trump than there was prior. He gets no credit for that whatsoever. But that’s the facts. That’s what happened. And again, with tariffs… They will be paying some tax now that they weren’t paying prior. And I’m fine with that, by the way, because I think everybody should pay some. I don’t think anybody should get off paying zero tax. I think they should. So that’s probably another conversation for another day. But far too many people in this country pay zero tax. Mile High Coin coming up next. If you’ve got any kind of a collection kicking around and you’re wondering what is the value of that collection, David Gonzalez can help you with that. If you want to turn that into cash, you can do that as well. 720-370-3400.
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All right, we are back, and I appreciate all of you listening today and, again, talking about the big bill. I refrain from going through too many details as to what’s actually in the bill, what’s it going to do, and so on, because, again, and this is where I differ from a lot of folks in the media. You don’t know what the final of this is going to be. So why spend a lot of, in my case, airtime talking about something that might not very well make it through the Senate? We have no idea, folks. So why go through all of the details, the gore, if you would, of the bill? And this is the other thing I struggle with when it comes to people that are even against the current bill that’s out there and commenting on it on social media. You don’t even know what the final is going to be. So why waste any keystrokes typing out something when you don’t even know what the final is going to be? This thing could very easily get kicked back to the house. We have no idea. No clue. So everybody that’s got, you know, that’s all in an uproar, if you would, over what’s there and what’s already been passed by the House, cool your jets. You don’t even know what’s going to happen to this thing next. So I don’t know. I guess just over the years and listening to Charlie as much as I have and him being a good mentor and being in business and so on, some of these things I don’t lose any sleep over until you get all the way to the end because you don’t know what’s going to happen next anyway. So why worry about it? Why comment on it? Especially, why type out huge things on social media against it when you don’t even know what the final is going to look like? Because you don’t know. You don’t know. So I’ll leave it at that. Again, I’m not going to talk much more about that until we actually know a little bit more about it when it comes out of the Senate. In the meantime, I’m not going to worry too much about it. So, all right, here’s something that… I was going to mention today, and I have mixed emotions on this, so I want to be careful how I talk about this particular topic. But I’ve got plenty of time. I’d like some folks to even call in on this, if at all possible. Our lines are open, 303-477-5600. There is a trend going around social media, TikTok, Instagram, and others, where grown men are calling up their friends, their bros, and wishing them a good night and sweet dreams. And they’re recording these conversations and putting them out on the Internet. Are you going to see me do this? Absolutely not. No, I’m not. Sorry, all of you that are friends of mine and so on, yeah, sorry. No, I’m not doing that. Not doing that. A, it’s not in my personality. Am I going to call Charlie up before he goes to bed and say, hey, Charlie, sweet dreams, sleep well? No, I’m not doing that. Now, as much as that’s great and I get the intention behind it, I – Here’s the thing. Even as a man, do I need that? No. No offense. I don’t need that. In fact, for me personally, I’m heading to bed. Leave me alone. I’m going to bed. I don’t need you calling and wishing me well wishes and a good night. And I’ve got a lot of male friends that I associate with. Some of them are good friends that I even coach and consult with and all of that. And I’m still not calling them and telling them that. A, it’s not in my personality. To me… Again, I want to be careful how I say this, but it’s just a little gay to me. I’m sorry. I don’t know how else to say it. It’s just odd. And I’m not doing that. To me, that’s not manly. And I was raised by a man’s man. Almost to a fault. Almost to the point where there’s times I have to, even Charlie will tell me, I’ve got to keep my emotions a little bit in check and be a little more sensitive on certain things and so on. Because the way I was raised, that’s not in my DNA. My dad didn’t raise me that way. In fact, if my dad, he’s not cognitive right now, so I couldn’t have this conversation with him. These are the times where I wish I could. Because I’d love to know what he thinks about this, and I can already tell you, I can already hear him telling me what his thoughts would be on this. You’re not doing that. That’s just not how I raised you. Now, again, if you do this, more power to you, I guess. I mean, you know, whatever. Whatever. I don’t know. Again, I have mixed emotions. I don’t want to offend anybody along these lines. If you decide that you want to do that, that’s fine. But this is just not, personally, not in my personality. I’ve got text messages coming, and I’ll do my best to read these at the same time. But somebody else just texted, this is a female thing. Yes, this is. And to me, this is where you get these trends and different things that are going on. You know, whatever. Teach his own. I’m not criticizing anybody that does it. But this, yeah, this is a woman thing. It’s just so somebody just said, OK, everybody, let’s text John at 930 every night and tell him good night. Laugh out loud. You guys can if you want. I may or may not read it because I’m headed to bed, but. And I appreciate the laughter of all of that, but I just can’t do that. I just can’t do that. I’m just, and Dave Hart, who we get along and talk all the time as well, not only here on the show and so on, just texted me and said, man, I’m crushed, you’re not going to be calling me. No, Dave, I’m not calling you. Sorry, just not. Love you, but no, not calling you. And, again, when I read this, and I had seen somebody actually do this on social media, and at first I thought, is this a joke? Is this like some sort of a gag? Is this really what guys are doing? And evidently it is, and they’re filming themselves doing it. They’re putting it out on social media. I don’t know who got this trend started, but it’s caught on. And again, I will say this. I do think there are times in everybody’s lives where sometimes you need a little pick-me-up. I get that. Typically, you guys that are friends with one another, you’re talking enough to know when those times are, and you’re already doing that anyways, okay? That’s already happening. But even if I’m having a rough day, I don’t need that before I go to bed. Just saying. Yeah. So you guys are giving me plenty of thoughts on this via your text messages and so on. And I’m laughing about it. And some probably are. And again, I need to be careful because, you know, May is Mental Health Month and all of that, which I fully understand. And I’ve said this before, even on Wednesdays, even with Dr. Kelly on Thursdays, I struggle at times with the whole mental health thing. And I have to be careful because I know it’s real, and I know it’s a thing that some people struggle with, and I understand that, and I’m not trying to diminish that when it’s real. But at times I wonder, do we as a country, especially now, have a larger mental health issue and yet – We literally have a country that doesn’t know how to work, and I mean that sincerely. We have a country that today, for the most part, not you guys that are listening, but the majority of people today don’t know how to work. And I mean that. They don’t. They complain about not having enough money. They complain about this. They complain about that. And then I look and say, well, you know, what’s your job? What do you do? Well, you know, I do such and such. Well, how many hours a week do you work? Well, you know, I just work part-time, 25 hours, whatever. You know, they’ll throw a number out. And I’m just thinking, gee whiz, there’s like 140 hours. available to do whatever you want to do and as far as working goes there’s a solid 80 to 100 you could work if you wanted to and you’re working 25 of those and wondering why you can’t make ends meet who whose problem is that yours or the government’s hey it’s never the government’s fault it’s yours so some of this i just look at at times i just think do we have a mental health crisis in this country because we We aren’t working as hard as we should be keeping our mind off of some of the things that are there and some of the stresses that come from lack of finances and so on. Is that because of what I’m saying? And I’m not a mental health expert, folks, so you’re talking to the wrong guy. In fact, I’m the wrong guy to come to for sympathy. That’s my family. I’m not that guy. I’m just not. In my world, any time any kind of a crisis has ever come along, my way of fixing it is I work more. Maybe that’s a mental health problem in and of itself, but that’s me. That’s what I do. If I want to overcome something, I get my mind off of it. I work more. I may pour myself more into something along those lines. And before you know it, you’re right back on track and off we go. That’s just me. And I’ve done that since I was a kid. And I’m not exaggerating in that, since I was a kid. Any kind of a tragedy comes along, a death, something along those lines, I’m the one where I’m going to go to work. I’m going to work harder than I did prior. And that’s just me. Now, I’m not saying everybody has to do that or everybody can do that. And I get it. There are real solid mental health things out there. In some cases, there needs to be some treatment and counseling and things like that done. But I often wonder, are we doing far too much of that rather than my method? And I read an article the other day that was talking about how here in America, Years and years ago, there were two schools of thought on fixing people and trauma from their past. One of those methods was to continue to focus on it, deal with it, relive it, work through it, get past it, and so on. The other school of thought was forget about it, move on. Literally, that was this other psychiatrist’s answer. Forget about it, move on. Bury it, move on. The problem is, as a country, guess which mode of therapy we’ve done? The keep reliving it over and over and over again. So, reality is… I’m not the guy to talk to about mental health. I’m also not going to be the guy calling up somebody else, some other guy, wishing them a good night and sleep well and, you know, don’t let the bad bugs bite and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, no, that’s not going to be me. I’m not that guy. Sorry, just not that guy. So… Maybe you are, and if you are, great. Maybe you’re the more of a sensitive man, you know, that sort of thing. I’m not. You guys know that by now. Anybody that’s listening to me for any length of time, that’s not me. I’m not Mr. Sensitive. My family will tell you that. I mean, I can be at times, but generally speaking, I’m not. Do I care about people? Yes, deeply. Do I want what’s best for people? Absolutely. Do I work hard for those that I am close to and that I am involved with? Absolutely. Is that my way of showing them that I love them? Absolutely. I want to provide for them better than anybody else can. And that’s my way of doing that, which I know is different for every person. I get that. But that’s my way. And calling somebody up and saying, hey, sleep well. No, that’s that’s just that’s not me. And again, I look at some of this and think, while I know it’s a trend and this trend will die off and so on, but. I mean, and again, some of you may think that I’m off my rocker and I’m completely thinking about this in the wrong way, and maybe I should be looking at this and doing this, but I just look at this and think, come on, guys, really? Really? And I get, again, one last time, I’ll reiterate, yes, I know there are some people that are struggling with certain things, and yes, they need a little extra boost, and yes, in those particular cases, that’s fine. But for the majority of men, hopefully that’s not you. If it’s the majority of men that need that, we’re in really bad shape as a society. And I hope that is not the case. I hope it’s a minority and not a majority. Cub Creek Heat and Air is up next. And if you’re looking to have something done with your air conditioning unit especially, and there’s some great rebates on heat pumps right now through Xcel Energy, talk to Cub Creek today. Find out what they can do for you. Find them today at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Most of you, actually all of you that have texted in are right in line with what I’m saying on the whole, you know, calling your bro and wishing them a good night and sleep well and so on. Now, on a serious note, on a serious note. What are we doing to our young men when we do this, our young boys? Keep in mind, most of social media is full with folks a lot younger than I. I, frankly, pay attention to a lot of social media mainly because of this show. I learn a lot of things. I get a lot of things that, A, get sent to me. I view all sorts of things. I’ve learned all sorts of things along those lines. But I’ll be quite honest. If it wasn’t for this show and what I do here, would I even be on Facebook and do some of the other things that I do? No, I would not. I’ll just straight up honest, I would not. I just wouldn’t do it. So point being, it is full of mostly younger individuals, not all, because there is a lot of old guys that are on social media and that as well, but let’s face it, it really is more young people, and there’s really young people that are on social media. So I look at these types of trends, this one in particular, where you’re calling your best friend or somebody, some guy friend of yours that you know, and telling them, hey, hoping you have a good night, sleep well, blah, blah, blah, And it’s a trend, and others can watch what’s going on because they’re putting this online. So I have to ask the simple question, what message are we sending our young men? In some cases, maybe it’s a good message. Maybe we’re saying that, hey, if you’re having a struggle and you want to tell your friend to have a great night and so on, you’re welcome to do so. On the same token, are we… Are we sort of wussifying men in doing this? I’m just throwing it out. I’m just asking the question. I don’t know. But are we? Are we softening men in doing this? Is this the right thing to do? I mean, I’ll go as far as to say when Christ and his disciples were together, and for them at times things got really rough, But as they were all hanging around the fire, getting ready for bed, laying down, a lot of times they slept outside. Was this something they did to one another? Highly doubt it, by the way. Highly doubt it. I honestly really, and I’m sorry to, I’m not going to say this that way. I’m not sorry to say this. I want to be pointed in how I say this. We wussify Christ too much. We make him out to be a weakling, and he was not. He was the ultimate man’s man. through and through. And yet the church, unfortunately, has wussified him. And I think he would appreciate me saying that because he’s not that way. He was the ultimate man’s man. I don’t picture Jesus Christ himself laying down, getting ready for bed, leaning over and telling Peter, hey, man, sleep well, have a great night, blah, blah, blah. No, I just don’t see that happening. So then I have to ask the question, why are we doing that? And I get it. It’s a trend. It’s kind of funny. People are making money off of this, by the way. The more influence you have and the more clicks you get and the more likes you get and so on, the more money you make. So I understand that part of it as well. And that’s where some of these trends come in. If you can get this thing going and trending well and working in your favor and you make all sorts of money off of it, well, there’s part of the reason why we do it. But what is the ultimate end goal? And what are we really doing at the end of the day? Are we really helping young men out when it’s all said and done? Or are we making them softer? In my opinion, we’re already far too soft as it is. Far too many young men far too soft as it is. And part of what I feel is wrong with our country today. The only hardcore young men that I know. In most cases, not all, but the majority of cases, the hardcore young men that I know typically have gone to the military. And they come back, yeah, they’re hard. They’re men. But a lot of kids that don’t, a lot of young men that don’t, I just look at them and think, man alive, at your age, I was doing XYZ and you’re still playing with whatever, video games or whatever it happens to be. At your age, I was already having kids, or I was already owning a house, or I was doing house maintenance, or I was mowing the lawn, or I was doing whatever. And what are you doing? You’re still in mom’s basement. And is what we’re doing in this particular trend making that part of it worse or better? And I’m being serious now. I’m not trying to make fun of the whole thing. I’m just trying to be serious about what message are we really sending young men when it’s all said and done? And are we wussifying them more than what we already have as a society? You know, I watch some of these guys as they walk around even in the dress that they have, you know, the outfits that they have on, what they wear and so on. And I just think to myself, you know, you couldn’t change a tire on a car and be effective at doing it. And yet you look like a lumberjack. You’re not. You’d be lucky to know where the ax, which end to even chop. Nonetheless, do anything else with it. In some cases, you’re going to hand that to your girlfriend and let her do it. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that. I look at some of these young men and I just look at them and I think, you couldn’t fight your way out of a wet paper bag if you had to. And now I look at these trends and it’s like, holy cow, have we gone off the deep end? You know, literally, have we gone off the deep end? So as you see some of these trends and you think about some of these things and so on and have some of these conversations around your own dinner table with some of your own family, and as you go through this weekend of Memorial Day where a lot of folks will get together, families and friends, and some of these things will get brought up and talked about and so on, you know, you might throw a few things in there as to what I’ve said here. over these past few minutes and just ask some of those questions. What are we really accomplishing here when it’s all said and done? And what’s happened to men? Where have all the men gone? I guess that’s kind of the title that I’ve got right now is where are all the real men? Where are they gone? Do we have any men’s men left? Are we raising men’s men? I did. I raised men’s men. Because my dad raised me to be that way. But are we doing that on a continual, purposeful basis? And I also understand this. And for all of you single moms that are out there trying to raise boys, my heart goes out to you. I understand what you’re going through and how hard that is. And you’re trying to find somebody in their life that will even show them how to be a man’s man. And, yes, my heart goes out to you, and I get that fully. And I am not talking to you any way, shape, or form along these lines because you’re doing the best you can, and I get that. And I’m fully aware of that. And I am not belittling you at all. I’m talking about dads that have the opportunity to build real men. Are you guys? Are you? Are you teaching your young men to be men’s men? So I’ll leave it at that. Something to think about. I just when I was reading that story today on the trending of things and so on, I don’t know. I just at times I think through that and wonder what’s the real answer here. What are we trying to accomplish? What message is that sending when it’s all said and done? Yes, we can laugh. 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All right, closing out that segment on the whole man’s man thing and the trend of, you know, calling your bro at night and, you know, telling him to sleep well and all of that. Okay, all that being said, I’m still a big one also on not only teaching your young men how to be men’s men, but also… How do you have manners? How do you treat a lady? How do you open doors for a lady? If you’re going to take your wife out for a date or you’re going out on a date for the first time with your girlfriend, number one, I hope you’re driving. Number two, I hope you’re showing up in a car to pick her up. And lastly, I hope that you’re opening the door for her, not only when you pick her up from the house that she lives in, but that when you go to the restaurant or whatever else you’re doing, that you’re doing the exact same thing all through the night, showing her the respect. that she deserves. That’s part of also being a man. And by the way, there’s also another thing when it comes to being a man. You can still take care of yourself, be well-groomed, smell good. That’s all part of being a man as well. Nothing worse than a grubby, stinky, BO-smelling man that doesn’t take care of himself. That’s not what I’m talking about. That’s not a manly man. That’s somebody that doesn’t care about anything. And that’s a whole other issue in and of itself that I’ve never really talked about. But, yeah, as a man, take care of yourself. Be a man’s man. Teach your kids how to be, you know, teach your boys how to be a man’s man as well. Teach them how to treat a woman the right way with respect. All of the different things that I hope your father taught you. But if not, learn those things. And my wife has said for years that we should hold classes on how to teach young people, especially how to have etiquette, how to do the things that I just mentioned, and so on. And she’s on the right track. The question is, how do you do that and then even get people to attend said classes? That’s a whole other topic. Maybe I’ll do it at a later date. All right, we’ve got another full hour coming your way. Don’t go anywhere. Jersey Joe is going to join us here in just a few minutes. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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