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Join John Rush and guest Jerry Blum as they dissect the failure of the current educational system in fostering proficient readers. With a focus on national test scores, they explore the reasons behind declining literacy rates and how this problem translates into a staggering economic impact. Jerry passionately advocates for a training-based reading method, recounting success stories from the USA Reading Clinic, showing that genuine improvement is possible with the right approach. This episode serves as a wake-up call for educators and policymakers alike.
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All right, welcome back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, appreciate you all joining me. Lots of text messages. I try to catch up on those at the top of the hour and even read those as I can maybe through the show, but it’s always harder when I’m by myself to do some things. So some of you texted and knew who I was talking about. when I was mentioning other talk show hosts earlier. So thanks for being so astute and aware. And then are those of you still texting me some of the things that we had talked about with David Gonzalez in regards to family, states, and things like that? So, again, thank you very much. I appreciate that and learning things from you guys all the time when it comes to that. So Jerry Blum joining us now. Jerry, welcome. How are you?
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I’m doing great, John.
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I appreciate you joining us. And there’s a lot of talk. And I, for one, I’ll just tell you where I stand when it comes to the Department of Education. I have literally been talking about and watching what I consider to be that debacle of a department and how long it’s been operating, the amount of money that has been invested into it. And yet we keep looking at our test scores and the literacy rate of our kids that graduate annually go down and down and down. I’m not too shook up about it at all.
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Well, you know, I always like to start with good news because the technology that I created, the USA Reading Clinic, continues to create outstanding readers for the kids.
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Nice.
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However, the new test scores, the national test scores, came out with the National Assessment of Educational Progress. And I knew this was going to happen because 34 states, the last I looked, The legislature mandated that they go back to phonics, which I’ll explain is absolutely the wrong way. So what happened this year is or 2024 compared to 2022 is that the scores, reading scores actually went down. They didn’t improve.
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Wow. So we’re not hooked on phonics is what you’re telling me.
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But phonics is not the way, because when you break down words, the neuroscientists at Georgetown Medical, they did a special brain imaging, and they found out that the way the brain works is it takes an entire word, once you attach a meaning to it, then it goes into the visual dictionary in the brain, a part of the brain. And then you can recognize the word. So breaking down words and coming up with rules for reading, how can you become a fluent reader and comprehend and so forth. So it’s the exact opposite. So I’m not surprised that the reading scores went down. And for the basic test, they had the worst scores ever, ever. The 70% couldn’t even read proficiently, but even the basic test, we had a third that couldn’t even pass that.
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So for people that are listening, Jerry, make sure I’m asking this the right way. What should a high school senior graduating high school, what should their reading speed and comprehension be at that stage of their life?
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well it should be uh you know in the 200s if not ideally you know above 300 words per minute okay with with adequate comprehension but okay talking about seniors 50 percent only 52 exactly don’t you know graduate college so about half graduate and the professors say that only 20 to 30 percent of the reading assignments they give the college kids only 20 to 30% actually read what they hand out because this reading is, is, is very poor. Wow.
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Oh, okay. Don’t question on my part. How are they then passing through and getting a good grade in college if they can’t read? I’m confused.
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Well, many of them aren’t, uh, they, they may, uh, struggle and they put in more hours and so forth, but it’s tough. It’s really tough. I mean, I, Improve the or have doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers as adults that are poor readers. They’re smart people. They get by, but they still say they struggle with reading. In other words, if you don’t correct it when they’re young. You’re going to become an adult.
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I mean, I remember some of our conversation from the last time that you were on. And I, of course, and I think I told you this, I was taught completely different how to read versus the way most kids are learning how to read today, which I guess at the time I wasn’t too thankful for, Jerry, but I guess I am today.
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Yes. There’s a small percentage. Let’s see, about 6% they classify students as advanced readers. That’s it.
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That’s it?
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That’s it, 6%.
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Okay, so maybe you know the stats on this, maybe you don’t. So if we took… The collective, so we take all adults in the U.S., collectively, how many fall into that? What’s the percentage of proficient readers across the country after this many years of poor reading skills coming out of school?
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Well, let’s put it this way, monetarily, John. Because of the poor reading skills in this country, it’s costing the country $2.2 trillion in productivity. Wow. Okay? Wow. $2.2 trillion is lost.
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Amazing.
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I had no idea, Jerry.
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I had no idea it was that large.
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Yeah, it’s terrible. We’re not born with an evolution with the wiring in the brain to be proficient readers.
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So we have to program ourselves to be able to read proficiently is what you’re saying.
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Well, you need technology like I created and developed to basically train rather than teach. Okay.
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So really quick, explain how you do that differently than what kids are being taught in school.
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Okay. It’s training rather than teaching.
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Okay.
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You have to develop the ability to process information. So I have technology that simulates the correct way of reading to develop these pathways. I have a lot of different techniques that I use. But think of a computer with a poor processing chip. No matter what you upload, download into it, it’s going to process poorly.
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True.
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Well, that’s what’s happening with the kids. You cannot… teach processing. It happens at five times a second, so it’s trainable, just like a sport. The sport’s a good analogy. You can’t sit in a classroom and, quote, teach somebody to be an expert tennis player or basketball player. You’ve got to train.
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Good point.
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It’s training, and that’s what develops the new pathways in the brain specifically for the task of reading and learning. And there’s other pathways in the brain to become a good violinist, okay, to what you’re doing. But fortunately for reading, I can develop it very quickly.
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Well, that was a question I had as well. And, again, make sure I’m phrasing this correctly because – While I believe everybody has the ability, you would agree with me, I think, on this. They can be trained how to read, read proficiently, and so on. But do some take that on more naturally? Just like, for example, somebody that plays golf or is really good at tennis or is really good at basketball. Some people are just more naturally gifted at things than others. Is that true with reading as well?
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I would say yes. There’s genetics involved. I happen to have been a sprinter. and, and, and had that sprinter body. I was born that way. So I, I, I excelled in track. Okay. And, uh, but yeah, some are better propensity, uh, for it, but I, I’ve taken very, very poor readers and, and made them outstanding readers. And I can, you can give you some stories if you want.
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Yeah. Share one. Yeah. I’ve got some time. Share one with us if you would, Jerry, I would appreciate that. Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah. Yeah. I have some here right here, like, uh, Jenny G’s story, and I was just going to read what she said to me, and then I’ll elaborate a little bit more, but I feel so grateful that we found your program for my daughter. She has battled a reading disability for many years, and I had lost hope that there was real hope available. This program has drastically improved her reading level, her confidence is soaring, and as a parent, there is no better feeling. You know, many parents, they’ve tried so many things. They spend $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 on these reading programs. And then I test them and I say they can’t process. They can’t process the words. And what happens is the parent loses hope, the kid becomes discouraged, and they feel that, you know, after a while, that this is the way my kid’s going to be for life. And there’s nothing… there’s no truth to that. Uh, if, if, you know, you use the right, uh, technology, um, let me give you another one. Uh, this is a really good one here. This was, uh, yeah, I have Scott W story. Before we found the program, my daughter was facing the possibility of repeating a grade due to reading struggle. She had low self-esteem, poor fluency and difficulty with comprehension. The grades were slipping and progress seemed impossible. Uh, But after joining the USA Reading Clinic, everything changed. Now she’s reading at an advanced level with excellent spelling and fluency. Her self-esteem has soared, and her confidence in school has completely transformed. We couldn’t be more thrilled with the results. So you can see the difference here. And what I want to point out is that other people, teachers and so forth, have tried to help this child, but they’re not going to the root cause. Again, go back to that computer. You can upload, download whatever you want. If the processing chip is poor, you’re going to go nowhere.
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Good point. Good point.
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And so I read one more for you. I just want to let you know this is Wendy’s story. I just want to let you know your program is making a big difference in my daughter’s performance. At a recent parent-teacher conference, the teacher was shocked. She wanted to know what we were doing because our daughter had completely transformed before starting. She couldn’t read more than eight words per minute. Now she knows all her sight words, reads with emotion, and sets her own reading goals. We are so grateful. It’s true. Parents are so grateful that I was able to help them. I was a poor reader myself. I can tell you a little bit about that, but I suffered until right through eighth grade, and then my father found some of the early pioneers that were kind of diddling with how you improve processing. It was very rudimentary back then, but I kicked in and became an A student in high school. Wow.
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Good for you.
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This is how I got into this, to help others. I know what I know what the kids are going through. I know what the parents are going through. Yep. And I’m trying to help them.
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Jerry, what’s the website folks go to? I mean, how can they get involved in this?
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Okay. Well, I offer a free consultation. I like to speak with the parents and explain in detail why their kids are suffering. But it’s usareadingclinic.com. And if they want to call, I have the phone number there, but it’s 800-230-3054. Okay. I will put that in my show notes.
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I’m looking at the website. It’s right at the top of the website as well. For those of you listening where you want to know more about it, go right to the website. I will, Jerry, put that in my show notes so folks can look that up a little bit later and find you as needed. And again, like I said last time, you’re welcome anytime. I enjoy having you on. We, I, have a heart to get young people involved. to learn to read. I’m an employer as well, Jerry, and I will just tell you that I’ve been an employer literally since the late 80s, and I have witnessed and watched what you’re talking about happen as an employer.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So I know exactly what you’re talking about. I see the results.
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Yeah, yeah. So I’m here to help as many people as I can. Awesome.
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Jerry, I appreciate you very much. Keep up the great work, and we’ll keep having you back.
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Thank you, John.
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You’re very welcome. Take care. And Jerry will not give you, of course, what his secrets are for that, but I think I’ve got a pretty good idea of what he does to help kids learn how to read. And I don’t think it’s probably much off of how I learn to read. as a young boy because I didn’t go to a traditional school growing up. I went to a Christian school, and we had different types of curriculum and so on, and the way we were taught to read was way different than what every other kid that I even knew at the time was being taught how to read. And I will say that as much as I hated it then, I’m thankful today that I actually was taught that way because in my world here— I mean, I read constantly, constantly. In fact, as an auto technician back in the day, we had to learn how to read and figure things out. And when I was learning how to be a technician, we didn’t have YouTube and videos and all the things that are out there now. That didn’t exist. We didn’t have smartphones and all that. We had manuals, paper. They were written. You didn’t have any other computer system or anything to find things. So you literally had to know how to go look at something, read it, read the instructions, how to do X, Y, Z, or you didn’t get it done. So I’m very thankful that I was able to do all those things. And and I wouldn’t be doing today what I do without having that proficiency. And those of you listening, if you’ve got a. family member, child, even yourself, and you want to become a better reader, I would highly suggest you go to usareadingclinic.com and find out more. Veteran Windows and Doors coming up next. Dave would love to help you with your home and its windows and the proficiency of and what other window companies and installers won’t tell you is it’s not a one-size-fits-all. A lot of them will tell you that it is and it’s not. Call Dave today. Find out exactly what works best for your home. Go to klzradio.com and look for Veteran Windows and Doors there.
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All right, we are back again. Thank you all for your text messages. I do appreciate it. Some of you sending me valuable information that I use not only on this program but others, so keep sending me text messages. That’s something that I always appreciate. Even if I don’t get a chance to directly respond to each one, I do read each and every one of them, and I appreciate what you send. One thing I was going to cover today that I may have to come back and do, at a little bit later time is there’s all sorts of things on social media concerning the Colorado GOP, new leadership, old leadership, and so on. And everybody’s an expert, or they think they are. In fact, Mark Hampton, I’ll name him by name because he’s a guy that’s been in politics here in Colorado, especially in this Parker southeast end of town. And I guess Mark’s an expert when it comes to finances and taxes and all sorts of things along those lines. And I was going to break down a post that he put up because there’s a lot of things in it that he has right, but there’s also a lot of things in it that he has wrong. And it’s always interesting to me, and I don’t know Mark’s background. I don’t know what he does for a living, although I can pretty much tell you by the item that I read or the post that I read that Mark most likely works for someone else. I don’t think he works for himself because a lot of what he has in here he would have phrased and done differently if he works for himself because he’s going through Dave Williams and the way Dave was paid and how he paid himself as an LLC versus having a paycheck and this, that, and the other. And He’s trying to combat or he’s trying to counter what some would say was some fraud, potential fraud, that may have been there in Dave’s term as GOP chair. Now, I never accused Dave of committing fraud. I think there was a lot of hanky-panky going on when it comes to folks that were paid to do things that, frankly— in my opinion, didn’t need to be there, didn’t need to be paid. Everybody touts Dave on saving money here and there and everywhere, and the reality is, no, I think it’s quite the opposite, frankly. I don’t think Dave did any better job of saving money than any other chair that we’ve had in there prior. It’s just a matter of which one of them want to spend money on their own pet peeves, their own pet projects, and Dave was no different. I don’t care what anybody says. I can look at the FEC report and prove that to you. And Dave spent a lot of money on attorneys that, quite frankly, I’ve been over that one numerous times, spent a lot of money on attorneys that, frankly, didn’t need to be spent. It’s that simple. But this particular post, and if I get a chance to break it down later in today’s program, I will. If not, I might do it tomorrow with Andy. But I can literally go through and break down what Mark put out. And, Mark, you know, I don’t know you personally. I’ve never met you on an individual basis. But you’re a jerk. I’ll just say that straight up. You’re a clown and a jerk. The way you approach things, you have about as much diplomacy as, I don’t know, you have none. You’re a very angry individual that is upset over what happened with your particular folks that were in power in the Colorado GOP, and you’re making that very well known. You’re like a little school kid who had his ball taken away, and you’re mad. I get it. You’re mad. Get over it, though. Be an adult. Look at things in a more adult fashion. And, you know, yes, I railed hard on Dave Williams while he was GOP chair. No doubt. I was the first talk show host in this town to do so. First person in this town to do so, I think. I don’t think anybody else came out any sooner against Dave than I did publicly. And I’m glad he’s gone. I wouldn’t trust Dave as far as I could throw him. Guy’s a crook as far as I’m concerned. Now, what did he do as far as things internally with money and so on? There’s a full audit being looked at right now, and I guess time will tell, and we’ll find out. And frankly, I think that’s some of the things that are worrying some folks, even the Mark Hamptons of the world, is what will actually be found out. And I keep seeing reports out, you know, posts out from even the old treasurer, Tom, talking about this, that and the other. And it’s like, OK, guys, if there were problems there and you knew about these problems, you didn’t fix those problems under your tenure. And yet they’re now being looked at as problems. Isn’t that on you? Why didn’t you fix them when you were in charge? If there were any kind of account discrepancies and things along those lines from even previous administrations, why didn’t you fix them? If you’re so proficient at what you do, why didn’t you fix them? 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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. My son is on vacation, so normally he would be in this particular slop. We have Tom Hogan joining us today. Tom, welcome. How are you?
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I’m well. Thanks for having me.
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I appreciate it, Tom. Longevity research. And I do health and wellness for an entire hour on Wednesdays, and I have done all sorts of interviews through the years. And the reality is, yes, most people are trying to figure out, you know, How do we live healthy? How do we live longer? But I guess the question that I have for you is, you know, at what cost?
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Yeah, it’s a good question. Basically, it’s one of these situations where you look at longevity as having two halves. One is the mental and one is the physical. Right. And I think if you look at it from that standpoint, you can see there’s a disconnect until we can get our act together. We’re going to age quicker. Right. on the mental side than the physical side, given all the data that’s out there. And as one of my characters says in the novel, he has this vision of his body lasting until he’s 150, and his mind goes at 85, and he’s sitting there in a home, and he says, the only thing I’ve got is great abs to show for it, you know?
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I’m laughing, but that’s kind of true. I mean, it’s not far from the truth.
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Not at all. I mean, the whole project or book got its genesis from a friend of mine who’s a venture capitalist, one of the top rated in the world. And he and I were going to write a book together, but he had all these very convoluted and intricate things he wanted to talk about and invest. And I said, well, let’s put it off then for another month and get together. So what have you been up to recently? He says, oh, I just got off a boat in the Adriatic where we were all there for biohacking and longevity. And I said, well, tell me more about that. He said, biohacking, you’re your own guinea pig, essentially, on things to stay. And I said, well, there’s our book right there, because no one knows anything about that. It’s something that your general audience can read. grab a hold of, as opposed to algorithms or any of these other security elements.
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The book, by the way, Flirting with Forever, a new book exploring how chasing eternal life could get humanity into serious trouble. And I agree with that, Tom. I mean, I think that… A, yes, we need to live as healthy of a life as we can, whether that’s on the physical or the mental side. On the same token, I think we can get so captivated with trying to, you know, chase that, you know, living forever ideal, if you would, that we lose sight of things that really are important.
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Right. No, I’m seeing it, you know… I went back to MIT, which has a great lab and they hosted me for a couple of days to make sure that I got the science correct. And you’re right. I mean, there’s people, um, I would say probably half of the venture capitalists that I know have, um, retreats in, um, uh, New Zealand, uh, which come with like a bunker and food for two months or two years. And I sat there and I looked at my friends and I said, how many of you have got one of these? And they all did. And I said, you know, well, there’s a damning statement if I’ve ever heard one.
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So, yeah, it’s a very real scenario. Well, and just as a side note for those individuals, and maybe they thought this further ahead than most, but if something really major happened, EMP, something along those lines, they’re not getting there anyways. Yeah. Sorry to say, they’re never going to make it.
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I know. And the point is, if they do make it, it’s because they had a private jet waiting, which means they have to take care of their family and the pilot’s family. And it just goes down the list. And at one point you say, hey, you know, I think I’d rather just get a nice glass of wine and kiss my ass goodbye.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And yet, Tom, these are guys that, quote unquote, are the smartest guys out there, financially speaking. Yeah, absolutely. And they’re all…
SPEAKER 09 :
fixated on uh you know as the joke goes living forever or die trying and um yeah it’s it’s an amazing conversation to have because all of a sudden these very rational very intelligent people start sounding like conspiracy theorists, you know. And it’s all because of the lack of control that they have over the end of the world.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Great point. Okay, so what other fascinating things did you learn along these lines? I mean, again, like I’ve said, Tom, I’ve interviewed a lot of different folks over the course of a decade, literally, when it comes to health and wellness and all the different things that are out there, everything literally from – Again, physical health, brain health. How do you potentially stave off Alzheimer’s? I mean, we go down the list, Tom, of all the different interviews I’ve done over the years. And I’ll just tell you this. If I chased every single thing that everybody that I came on and interviewed, I wouldn’t have time to work.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, no, I the the people that I’ve been talking to, I think, are on the safe and sane part of that spectrum. They want to but they want to live as long as they possibly can healthily. But at the same time. uh they’re doing these odd things such as you know the the bunkers in new zealand and uh putting uh uh inserts some some go so far as you know um implants in the brain so that they can conduct business in a different you know you sit there and when you’re done with the conversation you just wonder which planet one or both of you are on right exactly
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so I guess question, is there, I mean, I’m one, again, as I said earlier, I do think we need to live, you know, as healthy a life as we possibly can. There’s definitely things out there that environmentally speaking, we could do a much better job of handling our food intake, you know. You name it on down the line, diet, exercise, all of that, Tom, which, again, can even feed our brain health and so on. But is there any nuggets that you learned where it’s like, you know what, if people actually did do this, they might actually extend their life? Or does it still come down to genetics?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t think it comes down to genetics anymore, John, because you can do so much with a gene now where you carve it, you know, with these amazingly precise microscopes. And, you know, you sit there and you go, OK, you know, you’re going to be able to influence in the womb even what issues you can see here. using this new technology. So it feels like, physically at least, nothing is beyond the reach of these guys and their scientific teams, except for the brain. Right now, the brain is, you know, it’s not much further than, you know, Prevagenz or whatever it was that is on the TV all of the time, but I think the problem is that the body is outstripping the mind right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
So the body is, we’ve got to the point where health-wise we can make the body last. It’s still the brain end of things we’re struggling with.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. That was the whole guidance that my players took away is there’s no point in addressing one if you can’t address the other because most people will say, no, I’ll check out at 85 still, even if you’ve got this amazing physical extension because there’s no mental corollary to it.
SPEAKER 07 :
So did you find that there’s anything that, you know, you meet people all the time to where you know that they may be in their 90s or even my wife’s grandmother is 101, will be 102 this July, and her mental acuity, Tom, is very good. In fact, it’s better than probably a lot of folks that are in their 80s, and I’m not exaggerating when I say that. What gives those individuals that edge?
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s a great question. I mean, my mother was 102 when she passed, and she was, up until the last week, very sharp, very astute, etc. And on the flip side, you know, my father had dementia, and he died at the age of 85, but his body kept him alive far longer than his brain wanted to. And so my wife looks at me and she goes, My nightmare is that you inherit both of them, and you wind up living to be 102, but you’re a vegetable from 75 on. So that is the problem, is making sure. I would say it’s genetic at this point, John, with your family or with mine. But two or three more years with the ability to manipulate the genes and the proteins out there, different game.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who knows?
SPEAKER 09 :
Tom, where do folks buy the book? Well, right now it’s on Amazon and in a few bookstores. It’s the Forever Factor. And, yeah, we’d be delighted in anyone.
SPEAKER 07 :
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We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what’s going on, sir? Welcome back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, John. John, you had a chance to listen to Ilhan Omar explaining why people like you need to be monitored.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I don’t pay much attention to her, to be quite honest.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, do you have the 24-second clip? I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
You want me to play it?
SPEAKER 06 :
And then I’ve got some information. She’s either a liar or a bigot. Okay, all right, let me play it. Here we go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, hang on. I’ve got to turn the sound up. Let me start over.
SPEAKER 01 :
Our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country. We should be profiling, monitoring, and creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. I already have some things to say, but go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, John, she’s either a clueless idiot who has no idea what she’s talking about or a knowing liar, because if she had ever bothered to read the FBI annual crime, National Crime Report, which I do, and I have some data from that most recent one, which was for calendar year 2023. Here’s the data. Now, remember, she said white men, meaning guys like Irish, were, quote, most of the deaths in this country. Well, I went back, and if you look at table, expanded homicide table, expanded homicide table, data, table three. Now, not every homicide can they identify who the assailant was, but for those cases where the race of the assailant was known, which was 15,708, white offenders accounted for just 6,405, even though we’re 67% of the population. And 6,405, if my grade school math is any good, is only 40.8% of that total. Now, is 40.8% most of 15,708? No. Now, then you go to the column for black-slash-African-American assailants, and that number was an astounding 8,842, which is 56.3 of those homicides. And by the way, African-Americans represent 12.5% of this population, but they account for 56.3% of the homicides. So first of all, so she’s clearly either has no idea what she’s talking about or she’s a knowing liar. So my question is, When the person who’s either a clueless idiot who doesn’t know what they’re talking about or a knowing liar is a U.S. congressperson, which of those answers scares you more?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I know the answer is she’s an out-and-out liar. Trust me, she knows the stats. Those people that are around her that are even feeding her these items, which, again, Joe, I would tell everybody out there that, A, most people like her. They’re given talking points. They’re going to go on air, and they’re talking about what they’ve been told to say. These are not her own thoughts, I don’t believe, Joe. These are things that are being force-fed into her. They are an out-and-out lie. She knows it. The people feeding it know it. There’s no way you could go on air talking about that by just looking around. I mean, you’d have to live in a complete, utter bubble. And I don’t even know where that would be, Joe, an utter bubble to believe the things she believes in.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you’re saying that she knows that African-Americans are responsible for the majority of the homicides in this country?
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
She knows that. She’s lying. So she’s a knowing liar.
SPEAKER 07 :
She’s pushing a total lie, a false narrative, which, let’s face it, Joe, that’s what the left continues to do over and over and over again. Just like I saw a video I was going to play today that just reminded me of it. I saw it last night where there is a known representative, a Democrat representative, touting that Donald Trump is going to deport U.S. citizens. That’s another out-and-out lie, going back to the same thing we’re talking about, Joe. These are individuals that knowingly are lying about something that they know for a fact. Our Constitution protects any U.S. citizen from deportation, period. You and I both know that. This guy knows that, but he’s going to tout that narrative.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, by the way, Joe, when I see people make predictions like that, I always ask them this question. I said, so were you born with your psychic powers that allowed you to read other people’s minds, or did you acquire them later in life? Because clearly he’s making a prediction about what somebody intends to do in the future. Unbelievable. And that’s what it comes down to.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you’re right. You’re right. And again, point being, Joe, I firmly believe, I mean, this guy, Ilmar, AOC, Bernie, I can go down the list. They all know the right answer. They just choose to give you an answer that they would prefer, and it’s an out-and-out lie, and they know, you know that old saying, Joe, say a lie enough and it becomes the truth?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, a lie will make it halfway around the world before the truth can even tie its shoes, right? And they know that. And here’s the other thing that troubles me. The person interviewing her didn’t ask her, you know, didn’t know, was he that stupid that he didn’t know it was a lie? why didn’t he ask her, you know, where does that number come from? Why don’t you just sit there and accept it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, no, that’s one, Joe, where I’m sorry to say, but I’ve said this openly on air and I’ll keep saying it. The majority of individuals in media, TV, even some radio, do nothing more than repeat what’s given to them. And frankly, I’m sorry, Joe, they’re brainless. These are people that frankly are not that sharp.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, I’m afraid you’re right, because when I look at this guy, I don’t think he has a clue in terms of the data that she’s talking about. You’re right. He reads a script. They dress him up. They put makeup on his face.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the old song, Dirty Laundry, it ain’t far off of that. Yep, yep. I’m sorry to say, these people literally are puppets. If they look good, they’ve got the right teeth, they’ve got the right hair, they’ve got the right physique, they can stand in front of the camera or sit in front of the camera and do what’s necessary. You know, maybe outside of the weather folk, and even sometimes I wonder about them, Joe, at the end of the day, because a lot of them are climate alarmists as well, at the end of the day, all they’re doing is spouting off what their network tells them to spout off.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah, it’s so sad. By the way, one other – and did you talk about the Antarctic ice sheet growing? I did.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Just one other thing. You know, people are always talking about due process, due process, due, due, due. And they talk about it like it’s only one type of due process. Do you know that what constitutes due process in this country can change based upon the circumstances? Due process does not mean that everybody gets to see a judge. As an example, under Bill Clinton’s side, the Immigration Reform Act in 1996. And in that act, one of the things was expedited deportation, which means if you’re caught within 100 miles of the border within 14 days of crossing, customs and border patrol can deport you. No judge, no warrant, no nothing. We caught you. You’re within 100 miles. You’re out of here. And so that’s one form of due process. Another form of due process is These people, these millions of people that have had their photographs and fingerprints taken and they’ve been given a notice to appear and they’ve been given a website to check on the status of their hearing. If they don’t show for their scheduled immigration, their scheduled hearing.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’ve missed out on their due process.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was their due process. That’s right.
SPEAKER 07 :
They missed out on it.
SPEAKER 06 :
They missed on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Joe, really quick, along those lines, I know we’re short on time, but along those lines, there’s a video going around, and it’s talking about Donald Trump. He’s doing an interview with somebody, and this person from the press just keeps hammering him on, well, don’t they deserve a trial? Don’t they deserve a trial? Don’t they deserve a trial? And the reality is, to your point, they deserve due process. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says they are required and or have the rights to a trial.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, because due process does not necessarily, it can in some cases, but due process does not necessarily mean a trial before a judicial judgment.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, due process could be you go meet with somebody that’s an authority in that particular area and they either rubber stamp you or ship you home, one of the two.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right? That’s the process.
SPEAKER 06 :
You come into this country, you arrive on a flight from a foreign country where we require a visa and you don’t have one. The person you talk to at Customs and Immigration turns you right around and says, you’re on the next plane out of here.
SPEAKER 07 :
No different, Joe, than if you and I went to our southern country or northern, either one, Canada or Mexico, and did not have the right things to enter, passport and so on. Guess what? The due process is you and I go home.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And by the way, you’re already on foreign soil. That’s right. When I drove to Canada last year, the Canadian immigration checkpoint was a mile away. I was on Canadian soil. Gotcha. But they could turn me around. I was on Canadian soil. They could turn me around, so I’d go home. Same thing with the U.S. checkpoint. You’re on U.S. soil. The people in the booth can turn you around and say, go back the other way.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is part of the process.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. That’s the process for that situation.
SPEAKER 07 :
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. A lot of what Joe was talking about, by the way, when it comes to either just you’re flat out lying, you know what the truth is, or you’re just another moron and don’t know the truth and you just repeat what you’re told. We have some of those same problems inside of our own party here in Colorado. I talked earlier about some individuals that are posting things on social media that I got to believe either they’re completely moronic and have no idea what they’re talking about. or they’re just pushing something that keeps getting fed to them, and they feel like they have enough influence whereby they can just keep continuing on with that particular narrative and lie, frankly. I don’t know which it is. I don’t know these people individually. I know some of them, and I will tell you that some of them are just completely, utterly ignorant of the facts. And by the way, choose to continue to be ignorant. That’s the most disappointing thing, is when people knowingly are ignorant— and won’t do anything about not being ignorant any longer. I’ll be back. Another flower coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
