HR2 Liberty: Why the Constitution Still Matters Today. The Inspiration of Charlie Kirk. 9-17-25 by John Rush
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All right, we’re back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. How are you, Richard? Good afternoon, John. We’re doing great. Thanks for having us again. Happy Constitution Day, by the way.
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Happy Constitution Day. You just had a news story about it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it’s a good day. September 17th, 1787.
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And it should be something that should be a national holiday. If government people liked it, they would promote it more. But since it restricts government, they don’t promote it as much. And that’s a shame because it’s the longest serving and the shortest constitution in history.
SPEAKER 16 :
So talk about that for a moment. And really, you said it all a moment ago as to why we don’t celebrate it more, because it does limit government in many ways. We’ll talk about some of those today, but talk about that for a moment. And, you know, I’m one like you. It should be a national holiday, but politicians aren’t going to be in favor of that.
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No, not at all. But what’s amazing to me is most revolutions in history were very emotional. You had conflict, and when the conflict subsided, if there was a new organization, if you will, they’d form a government. But our colonies… Even after the Declaration of Independence, they were writing constitutions and forming laws in all of the colonies, and they formed and ratified the Articles of Confederation, which was our first national governing document in 1781. That was before the Treaty of Paris in 1783, which cemented our freedom, if you will.
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And a lot of people don’t understand that the, you know, they think, I should say, that the Constitution was the same day, you know, July 4th, 1776. But as I just mentioned, September 17th, 1787, it was over 11 years later.
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Yes, and that ought to make us more impressed and appreciative of what our founders did for us because it wasn’t a Johnny-come-lately six-month war like the first Gulf War. It was 11 years of sacrifice and deprivation that they did not only for us, but as the last objective in the preamble said, to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. They were thinking about us when they wrote the Constitution.
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And I think as you stated, and I’ve talked about it here in the last week plus, is they were very, how should I say, wise beyond their years, Richard, when they wrote things and they did things for certain reasons. And of course, you know, last week with, you know, what happened with, you know, Charlie Kirk, and of course, he was really big on teaching people the things that were in the Constitution and why they were there, everything from you know, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, to on down the line we go. I mean, he did a really good job of explaining those things. And probably, by the way, Richard did a better job of explaining it than most could in a way that I think left a lot of people leaving that discussion rethinking what their initial challenge was.
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Yes, and so two things. One, the Federalist Papers were written to give additional explanation and context of what was written in the Constitution, and I think that’s a terrific document for us to be able to have as well. And one of the things as I was researching for Americans who made America the 18th century volume that amazed me was how our founders put aside their individual agendas and for the declaration and for the war and for the Constitution, and it was only after those were all secured that they started working toward their individual agendas again.
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Yeah, and I talked about this the other day, and a lot of them, the Bill of Rights, for example, talking about the First Amendment, Second Amendment, and so on, there were a lot of them that really felt like, wait a minute, we don’t need to spell out the rights that God has already given us, and I say it this way. I feel like, and you and I talked about this a little bit last week, I really feel like the reason they ended up doing that was, and I’m sorry to say it this way, but I mean this, the Bill of Rights was there for stupid people that wouldn’t know otherwise. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yes, and again, they wanted to make absolutely sure that government was restricted. Here they’d come out of a monarchy. They wanted nothing to do with a monarchy. They did not want a democracy. They recognized how that could turn into mob rule, which the French Revolution exhibited. And so the constitutional republic that they came up with was based on checks and balances and limited power rules. because they did not trust any person or small group with too much power. And we can see today what’s happened when the Constitution is skirted and people exercise more power than they rightfully have.
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One thing about, too, and you and I have talked about this in the past. I’ve got another guest that will join us at 5 o’clock talking about this very thing. In fact, she’s devised a bunch of flashcards to teach people about what’s in the Constitution. We’ll talk to her at 5 o’clock. But the one word that I think a lot of people forget, especially those that are out there running around on college campuses trying to defend democracy, is that word’s not even in the Constitution.
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No, and we do not have a democracy, and as we’ve quoted Aristotle over 2,000 years ago, said, republics decline into democracies. Democracies degenerate into despotism, and that’s why the founders did not want a democracy. They had recognized what had happened to previous ones, and the constitutional republic is majority rule, but it protects the political views of minority.
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Yeah, it’s our individual, again, going back to that individual God-given rights.
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Yes, and we’ve had a president not too long ago who wanted to convince us that our rights were collective. and they were not. Our rights as enumerated in the Constitution are individual rights, and that’s one of the great things. We’ve got political and economic rights, and those two in combination is what unleashes the Americandu spirit and has built our country over the last 250 years.
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When it comes to the Constitution, in fact, the one other thing that it does say or maybe not say but make sure doesn’t happen is we had founding fathers that, to your point earlier, they did not want a king. And remember at that time, George Washington could have been had he wanted to be.
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Yes, and I wonder exactly how many people really wanted him to seriously consider that. Thank goodness they knew that he was a humble enough person that he wouldn’t accept it, and he did not want to be in office too long. He didn’t really want to be in office at all, but he sacrificed his personal desires for his country every time he was asked.
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Yeah. And again, I think, you know, again, somebody that was wise literally beyond his years realizing that, well, yeah, this is not how this is supposed to work. And no, I don’t want to do that. Talk about some of the other things that happened, though, in the establishing of the Constitution.
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Well, I think the preamble to me, and this was about the only thing we learned in school, was so important because if you just look at it, it gives you a foundation, if you will. And so what was the first objective? To form a more perfect union. And they recognized human nature’s flawed. It’s flawed then. It’s flawed now. It’ll be flawed in the future. And so they recognized we’ll never have a perfect union no matter what, but we can always strive for a more perfect union. And so to me, that being first and securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our posterity being the last objective, those to me were the two most important ones there. to create the atmosphere for the document.
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And on top of that, Richard, and one thing too that I think gets sort of sidestepped is the Founding Fathers and the faith that they had and the way they intertwined that faith into the document.
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Well, all the naysayers tried to make it seem like the Founders were not Christians. And were all of them? No. A lot of them were, including pastors that signed the Constitution as well. And even the ones who were deists like Thomas Jefferson respected Christianity, and they recognized the moral teachings of Christianity and the restraint of people’s selfish interest in Christianity. And so it infused all of our founding documents.
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Mm-hmm. And I think what you said a moment ago, and this is really quick, another thing that Charlie Kirk was really big on is letting people understand that, wait a minute, time out. You have to even go back and look at what was there prior to the establishing of the Constitution, how the states had powers and what the states were actually doing and what some of their requirements were to serve in government and so on. In other words, you’ve got to go back to your point earlier, Richard, and even look beyond the Constitution to know where these guys came from.
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yes and and that’s so important uh they shipped books across the atlantic ocean from europe history books about other civilizations so that as they were forming these type documents they could refer to them our founders were educated people they didn’t do this on a whim or on an emotion they studied and looked at what worked and took little pieces and put them together and assemble them from multiple different sources And that, to me, had to be inspired from above, because I don’t believe any group of people, especially 55 signers, could have set and crafted something like that without divine inspiration.
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We have amended it from time to time. Talk about that and how that works.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it’s interesting that… To be amended, there’s two ways to change the Constitution. Amendment is one, which we’ve done it 27 times. We’ve had one amendment repealed, which was prohibition repealed in 1933 after 1919. The first 12 amendments continued to restrict government and give individual rights. The last 15 amendments have been much more about giving government power and So that’s a sad thing for we who lack individual rights. We can also amend the Constitution through an Article 5, which is a convention of the states. And there is a group leading a movement now to bring that to fruition, trying to modify the Constitution to, again, be what the founders wanted, which is getting us individual liberties.
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Yeah, and that’s something you and I could even talk about in the future is the whole Convention of States. I have my own thoughts on that. There’s a lot of folks out there that want to see that again, and I’m one of those where it depends because be careful what you wish for.
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Well, yes, and all we have to do is look at how we got our Constitution. They gathered together in Philadelphia, and everyone thought they were going to amend the Articles of Confederation, and guess what? They came out with a whole new document.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. Now, again, be careful what you wish for is my whole point along those lines. Richard, how do folks find you, and if they want to buy some of your books and even pass those along, how do they get that done?
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Well, we appreciate that. Our website’s richardbattle.com. Any of the 12 books ordered there are signed. If you’d like them inscribed for gifts, email me after the order at richard at richardbattle.com. They’re all available on Amazon as well. You can look into Richard V. Battle, including 11 Kindle versions and 8 audio versions.
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As always, Richard, I appreciate it very much. We’re blessed to have you each week, and thank you for all that you do.
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Hey, my pleasure. God bless America.
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God bless you, Richard. Appreciate it very much. Up next, Golden Eagle Financial. We talked to Al Smith, by the way, at 3 o’clock, and he is up next. He did an interview of late. Listen in. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back, and one of you sent me a clip from Charlie Kirk, and under the guise of Charlie knew last week and last Wednesday, to be exact, that that day would come. And so he recorded some things along those lines, and I thought it would be fitting a week later to play this. Again, one of you sent me this, and I appreciate you for doing so. Let me cue this up, and I’ll just play this, and I’ll have some comments afterwards. Here we go.
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Hello, everyone. I’m Charlie Kirk. If you’re seeing this, I recorded it knowing this day might come. I knew the risks of standing up for what I believe in, and I knew the opposition would stop at nothing. Still, I am not afraid. I will not bow down to fear. I believe with all my heart that what I’ve done is for the good of this country, for the future of America. I’ve always said free speech, strong families, limited government, these aren’t just slogans, they’re what make America great. Even if I’m not here tomorrow, there will be others to stand up. More voices will rise, more patriots will answer the call, because an idea rooted in truth cannot be killed, and because America is worth every sacrifice. I want to say I’m sorry to my wife, Erica, my daughter, my son. I know I failed you more than once. I haven’t always been the husband or father I promised I would be. But I did what I did because I believed it was necessary. I believed you would understand. I believe you will understand. So now I leave this with you. Will you stand up when they try to silence us? Will you carry on if I am gone? Will you stay unafraid and keep pushing for what is right? Hello everyone, I’m Charlie.
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All right. And again, that was recorded, you know, as you could tell, prior to what happened last Wednesday. We dedicated that entire show. Literally all we do is talk about Charlie last Wednesday in light of what happened earlier that day. It’s been a week later. And as I reminded everybody then, there’d be a lot more information that would come out, you know, in the following week as regards to what happened, why did it happen and so on. And There is still a lot of conspiracies, I guess I could say. We talked about this a little bit on the roundtable this morning that you’ll hear tonight at 6 o’clock in about an hour and a half. And still a lot of conspiracies surrounding what happened a week ago. And you guys all know me. I’m not that guy. I’m not a conspiracy guy. And Bob Duco, you’ll hear him again in the podcast today. Talk about how, you know, sometimes the easiest explanation is the answer. And I know sometimes people don’t want to hear that because they want a more involved answer. But I think it’s becoming more and more apparent as time goes by what happened. Now, did this particular young man have any help? Frankly, I don’t think so. Personally, I don’t think he did. Others might disagree with me, but no, I don’t think he did. Now, did others know what this young man was going to do prior to it happening? That’s possible. Some of the chat rooms and things that he was in, it’s possible. And I said this on the podcast this morning as we were recording that if, in fact, there were people that knew about this event and knew it was going to happen and knew this young man was going to do so, shame on them, and they should be brought in for questioning. Absolutely. And there should be accountability for that is what I’m trying to get at. And I said that this morning during our recording, and I still believe that. Any individual that knew this was coming, just like any individual that would know a school shooting was coming, they are wrong in not bringing that to light. This is no different. You’re just as much a part of the problem as the problem itself in that regard, I think. So am I going to go, though, as far as to say that this particular young man had help? No, I don’t think he did. There’s stories circulating that the first individual that had been arrested and brought in for some questioning there at the rally, the older gentleman, I think he was in his early 70s, and he said something to the effect of, you know, I’m just delaying them from finding the real shooter and this, that, and the other, and Again, was he involved in it with the other shooter? I highly doubt it. Now, was he a nut job himself? And he’s been known, by the way, to be a disruptor and be involved in some of these things at some of the rallies. And, you know, once this happened, could he very well have been there disrupting things or wanting to disrupt things and then say the things that he said in a way to potentially help the shooter get away? Sure. And that doesn’t mean he’s got ties to it. He’s just a nut job. And at the end of the day, do I feel this young man had help? No, I don’t think he did. Andy and I talked about some of that yesterday in regards to the young man himself and just the weirdness to all of it and the fact of him being gay. Sorry, but he is because, yes, his boyfriend is transitioning, but his boyfriend’s always going to be the boyfriend. I don’t care if he ends up looking like a girl. It’s still a boyfriend because he’s still a dude. At the end of the day, it’s a dude liking a dude. That means he’s gay. And again, I’m not accusing anybody any way, shape, or form. Live your life. Do what you want to do. I don’t agree with that lifestyle, but hey, whatever. Knock your socks off. It doesn’t give you the right to take the life of someone else, though. Ever. Never. And I’ll say that till I go to the grave. I don’t care if this was a conservative that had shot and assassinated a liberal. Andy and I both would say, Charlie would say, yeah, that’s not right. That’s wrong. That is not allowable, period, ever. And I think we talk about this also on the podcast. The difference between our side and the other side is we will condemn that right off the bat. We would condemn that in a nanosecond. The left won’t. The left has to be forced to condemn some things. I saw that Obama had basically condemned the shooting and it was wrong and this, that, and the other. But to my knowledge, and again, I could be wrong in my timeline, it’s a week after the fact. Why wasn’t Obama out the very same day speaking to that? Why did it take at least a week for him to come out and say things? He should have said it right off the bat. And that’s what I mean by, in a lot of ways, the left has to be forced into saying things, into apologizing, if you would, for these heinous acts, when our side will do it right off the bat. Personally, me, I don’t care what side of the aisle you’ll come on. I’m going to condemn it all day long. You can’t take someone else’s life, period. I don’t care where you fall, politically speaking, right, left, or otherwise. You never have that right because we believe in the right to life, young or old. Doesn’t matter. Doesn’t matter if I disagree with you. Doesn’t matter if I don’t like you. Doesn’t matter if I don’t like your political stance. Doesn’t give anybody the right to take your life away. That’s what we believe. And by the way, that’s what Charlie believed. Despite what you’ll hear coming out of the left and all of the lies and junk that they spew out about, you know, Charlie being a misogynist and he was a racist and he was this and he was that and on and on they go. He wasn’t any of those things. And those people that say that need to be called into check because they’re wrong and they haven’t really listened to Charlie for any length of time to really know what he even stood for. They’re going off of typically what somebody else fed into them. They’ve probably never even seen a clip of Charlie. They just know in their mind that’s who he is. And so they assume that. By the way, we can fall into some of that as well. And we need to be careful as conservatives in not doing that, i.e., conspiracy theories. Don’t get caught up in these conspiracy theories because, frankly, that’s all they are, conspiracies. So I got a text message from somebody earlier, too, where there’s a bunch of rigmarole going on right now, propaganda, I would call it, whereby they’re accusing certain individuals – folks that are tied with Israel, and that’s the reason why J.D. Vance is even, you know, the politician that he is. That’s the reason why he’s vice president and on and on. It’s all nothing but a bunch of hogwash. These are Jew-hating, Israel-hating individuals that promote that propaganda. Period. And if you’re one of them, shame on you. Shame on you. You need to check yourself. Just like I said a moment ago about the left, you need to check yourself as well. You’re no different. In fact, I’ll go as far as to say this. For those of you that are in that camp, you’re no different than the left. You’re not far from them. You think you’re really on the right. You’re one step away from the left. Trust me when I say that. You’re one step away from being on the left. So be careful when you come down that path, by the way, when you go down that path. Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning is next. There’s a great tune-up special right now when it comes to your furnace. Make sure your furnace is dialed in as we head down the path into winter. Find them today at klzradio.com.
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We are back, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We’ve got Sunny Kutcher joining us now from Young Americans Against Socialism. Sunny, how are you today?
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Hanging in there, you know.
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It’s a week later, and as I said last week, and you’re seeing, I think, a lot of this come out in the aftermath of what happened exactly a week ago. You know what, Sunny? There’s a lot of folks that have really turned out in… you know, how should I say, you know, thousands among thousands of people have turned out to honor Charlie. A lot of young people have been energized, re-energized, I guess you could even say, to go out and do some things that, quite frankly, they might not have been doing prior. I think, again, as I said last week, you know, God can take a tragedy and turn it into good, and that’s happening as we speak.
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Absolutely, and I think he just inspired so many people. He spoke to so many people, and spoke to many people’s hearts and minds, even in the quiet moments, even when, like you said, maybe those people weren’t, you know, speaking out the truth out loud for fear of censorship or, you know, being slandered or whatnot, being expelled from school. Being laughed at, expelled, yeah, all the things that you’re saying.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, and exactly, all of those different things, absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I think that he spoke to a very deep-rooted… value in people that is, of course, freedom of speech. And I think to see that play out in real time, to see that threat being actually followed through on, you know, the threat of what it is to be a conservative in this country, in this world. That, you know, when that actually there’s an action taken against you in that type of violent way, people really strongly had a reaction to that as they should. And I’m really I’m inspired and just really grateful that people are. Speaking out about the truth.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’ve had many young people, many young people, I should say, either message me, you know, email, text, whatever the case, Sonny. And you’re just asking me to, you know, mention to them some of what you and I are talking about right now and that young people are being re-energized to go out and do some things that to your point, you know, everything you said. Yeah. For whatever reason, obvious reasons. They maybe didn’t want to do some of those things, but now after watching what happened a week ago, they are re-energized or maybe energized for the first time to do some things that, quite honestly, they might not have done otherwise. And by the way, I’m not just saying young people. I think there’s some older people. you know, older generations, some folks like myself even, where they’re looking at this saying, you know, it doesn’t mean that I’m going to go pick up arms and go, you know, start a civil war, but I’m going to start being a little bit more bold and out there when it comes to speaking the truth and the things that I believe in. No longer am I going to, you know, sit idly by and let somebody degrade, you know, Christianity or degrade our republic or degrade the flag or whatever the case may be, Sonny. There’s all sorts of things that come up in daily talk whereby I think people today are going to say, wait a minute, time out. No, no, no. That’s not the way things work, and you’ve got everything backwards.
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Absolutely. And I also think it’s not just for people who were, you know, maybe being quieter, but for people actually who this was the turning point, literally, in their thinking and their logic and their reasoning with how they relate to politics and this, you know, back and forth, this spectrum that, you know, of course, you and I deal with on a, regular basis, I think that he exposed different perspectives. Charlie exposed different perspectives to these topics, to illegal immigration, to Christianity, to, you know, asking questions about what, you know, who really does control the narrative in the world, and things along that line. And so I think he actually touched a chord within people who may have even considered themselves Democrat or liberal or on the left. And that’s that is remarkable. And I think that’s something very important that we have to take away from all of this is that people are questioning all the narratives. And, you know, there’s a lot. I mean, as far as there’s.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, no, I think even, Sunny, along those lines, and I’ve seen this, I think even some of those that were on the left that were immediately afterwards celebrating the fact that somebody had been assassinated, I think people from even the other side started looking at that saying, wait a minute. I mean, I may not agree with the guy. I disagree with a lot of what he says and stands for, but that doesn’t give you the right to celebrate the fact that a human being died. In fact, I know some people, Sonny, that even on their own social media, I wouldn’t consider these people to be hardcore conservatives at all. I would consider them to be middle of the road and maybe even lean left to a certain degree, but yet came out and said, wait a minute, you people. people that are celebrating the fact that somebody’s been assassinated you guys are a bunch of nut i’m paraphrasing but you guys are a bunch of nut jobs i cannot be on that side while you’re doing that so i think there’s some folks even that would have considered themselves on the left or maybe more liberal than conservative that re-evaluated that a week ago saying wait a minute if this is the party that you know that i’m that i’ve got my name attached to i better rethink that
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Definitely. I think it woke a lot of people up because, like you said, they relate to that side and to see people that, you know, you think that you’re relating to or that you are in agreement and alignment with on values. And then you have these people celebrating, mocking, you know, stomping on Charlie’s grave or dancing, I should say. I mean, it’s of course. you know, diabolical and demonic.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is. And let me add one more thing to that, too, Sonny. And even the leaders leadership in the Democrat Party and some of their let’s say it’s any less than stellar Talking points in regards to Charlie and what happened. In other words, some of them said, yeah, this is awful. Yeah, this is a tragedy. But let’s just say this. They didn’t put a lot of of heart and emphasis into that. In some cases, it was a token, quote unquote, apology. And I think, again, these same people saw that from the leadership inside the Democrat Party as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I mean, I think they just did it as a, you know, kind of cordial thing. But they did it because they had Obama just finally broke his silence.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
President Obama broke his silence. And, you know, they always blame the person who got shot and not the person, you know, who shot him or, you know, the ideology that shot him that motivated somebody to do something like this. And that’s why it’s so important. You know, I just saw a report of Representative Luna discussing with Glenn Beck actually on the Charlie Kirk show because he was guest hosting the show. And she was mentioning that people like Neville Singham, for example, who is somebody who actually is a billionaire and, you know, quote unquote philanthropist like George Soros, who you know, allegedly has a hand in funding left-wing violence in this country and most likely all around the world. And she was saying that Representative James Comer signed on to a letter to the U.S. Treasury to freeze all of his assets and that Rep. Luna had just met with Judge Jeanine, a D.C. attorney, and she was saying that the Department of Justice is going to be charging him with a fair violation. So I think things are beginning to become revealed. And, you know, there is, of course, a precedent in this country where you kind of need an event to take place in order to kind of dig a little deeper. And I, you know, unfortunately, but, you know, for Charlie’s sake, I feel like because this happened, There is going to be a lot of pressure and a lot of eyes on who is actually radicalizing and funding these leftist NGOs that are influencing young people in general. You know, and of course, I think that there are still so many questions about his assassination, but in general. You know, why is this rhetoric? Why is this happening and who’s funding it? And I believe a lot of these people, the agitators, as far as these left wing, you know, Antifa types and all of these things, a lot of them are probably I mean, they’re paid. Let’s just let’s just call it out.
SPEAKER 16 :
No. And again, I think this is going to be it is not going to be it is a wake up call on a lot of different fronts. These that we’ve been, you know, these particular fronts that we’ve been covering, whether you’re somebody that’s been somewhat on the left and maybe weren’t really sure what you wanted to do. And then you see the response from last week. And to your point, even Obama, which I had mentioned even before you. joining us that, yeah, he finally, you know, broke his silence and said something, which, frankly, he should have said even a week ago, should have said it the same day, period. In fact, there was a lot of political leaders, leftist leaders that should have said something that same day that that frankly didn’t. And in my thought there is they wanted to really they wanted to see. who the actual shooter was before they actually came out and did everything or, you know, did something along those lines. And, yeah, I think more and more things are going to get uncovered. Now, one thing, and I don’t know if you saw this. I want to make sure I mention this because I don’t want to leave, you know, anything out or unturned. There have been five police officers shot, three dead in Pennsylvania. The police are investigating that. The FBI is investigating that as we speak. I don’t know any more about that story. It just sort of popped up. I don’t know if you had heard that or not, Sonny.
SPEAKER 13 :
I just saw that on X, and it just never ends. The vitriol against our law enforcement, against conservative ideas in general, anybody who kind of embraces or holds those values, there is an absolute psychological, informational, spiritual war against good by evil. I truly believe that we walk among demons, and That is why it’s so important for us to consistently talk about, you know, our freedoms, our rights, the Constitution, and so that’s why I wanted to mention that today is actually Constitution Day. It was the day, September 17th, is the day that the Constitution was signed in 1787, and, you know, it’s just such a blessing, and we are so grateful for that. It’s the only thing that has stood in the way, that has been a shield of protection for our freedoms against the tyranny of our government. and those who would like to use our government for tyrannical means.
SPEAKER 16 :
And again, this particular story coming out of Pennsylvania, folks, I don’t know the motives, I don’t know the shooter, I don’t know the incident or exactly what happened. I just know that that is one of the news stories that just came out just literally a few minutes ago before Sonny came on air. And again, same situation. Our heart and thoughts and prayers go out to not only those individuals that have been shot, but those that died as well, their families. And I said this on our podcast recording today, Sonny, and I mean this. This is something that maybe I’m a little weird in the way that I look at things, but I have no sympathy for the shooter. Please, nobody accuse me of that. But I do have sympathy, Sonny, for their family. What these people don’t realize when they commit these heinous crimes is not only did they ruin The family of Charlie Kirk, ruin maybe isn’t the right word, but definitely affected it in a negative way because he’s not going to be with that family any longer. On the same token, this shooter will not be with his family any longer, and his parents and siblings will now be changed for the rest of their lives. So what these folks don’t understand is they think they’re only going to affect one person. They’re affecting multitudes of because it affects both sides of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s so sad, and of course I completely stand by your statement as well. I’m praying for all those involved in all of these horrible incidents that take place. And as you mentioned, obviously we don’t know many details, but I agree. I just think that it’s such a selfish act, no matter how you slice it, and no matter what the motive is, committing it. heinous acts of violence is just such a selfish act. And I definitely am praying for that family too. And I think that, you know, it really shows us that families have to be involved with their kids, of course, and really taking the time to instill these values and not just, you know, hope and believe, like think in your heart that, okay, well, I have these values, so it’s going to a pass off to your kids, which of course that is a factor, but our schools and this machine, the propaganda machine is so powerful and so strong and so deceptive that it really does work on the innocent minds of children. And so that’s why we just have to really focus on our children so that we can, you know, stop this cycle.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, absolutely. All right, Young Americans Against Socialism, how do folks find you, the material you guys have? For those of you listening, it’s material that can help everyone, really designed for school-age and teenage kids, but Sunny, it can help everybody that wants to get a hold of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I hope that all can benefit and find value in these resources. The website is yaas.org, Y-A-A-S dot org, and As John mentioned, our resources are listed there, how to teach your kids about the government from the revolution to the constitution, all different types of resources, intro to socialism, about our government, our constitution, our rights, our constitutional republic, and how it differs from forms of government like socialism and communism. And it’s just so important because those ideologies are extremely dangerous and violent and oppressive. So We also interview survivors, so you can check out those stories there, which are extremely powerful and inspiring. But thanks once again always for having us. Always a joy. Yeah, we hope it’s beneficial for people out there just reeling from these incidents and wanting to jump into those conversations with their children.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Sunny, as always, I appreciate it. You guys keep up the great work. Thank you, as always.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back, Rush to Reason, and I mentioned earlier that I’ve had several messages from young people that listen to our program, which I am delighted at, and I mean that sincerely. Andy and I talked about this yesterday. We’re honored that you guys that are younger would listen to us, and I mean that sincerely. So I got a message just a moment ago. Hello, Mr. Rush. This is—I won’t give the name because I don’t want to expose him, especially in this particular case. It is a boy, young man, I should say. We live in southeast Colorado. I’m 18 and a senior in high school. We have a teacher who just told us today that we should be looking at Israel’s involvement in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, amongst other things happening right now. We talked at lunch and now we don’t know what to think. Thank you. So I responded to him and said, Israel has zero to do with this. She is a wacko. And most likely has no validation of this whatsoever. And he came back and said, that’s what we discussed at lunch. Her only sources were hearsay from social media. And she showed us some other things from Ian Smith and some others that are on social media. And yeah, and this is by the way, this is a teacher. And my other response was she’s a racist. Period. And she needs to be called out for that. This is a teacher, most likely in a public school. that is spewing things that frankly aren’t true, can’t be proven to be true. I know some of you listening believe some of this nonsense as well. Shame on you, by the way, because you don’t have any proof of this and you shouldn’t be spewing that kind of information out there because you don’t know. And some of you, and I’ll just say it straight out, I’ll call you on the carpet, some of you are pure racists. You’re Israel Jew-hating racists. And so you come out and spew this garbage out because that’s who you are and your true colors show forth. You know who you are, by the way. I don’t have to tell you. I don’t have to name any names. You know who you are. Shame on you. Some of you call yourself Christian, by the way. You’re not. I’ll call you on the carpet for that. You’re not. Far from it. You might think you are. You need a self-check because you’re not. You need to go into some real solid prayer with God Almighty and sit down and really get yourself a gut check to really figure out what’s going on because I can tell you right now, you’re not acting like one when you spew this kind of garbage out. So, Brayden, number one, thank you for texting me. I appreciate it. Thank you for listening on top of that. And your teacher needs a solid self-check. She’s a racist. As would anybody that would come out and say things along these same lines. First of all, there’s no proof of that. Absolutely. In fact, there’s more proof. On the other side, and I know they’re going to come out and say, well, yeah, but this guy was set up. He was forced to do it. He might have been paid to do it and blah, blah, blah. It’s a bunch of hogwash. It’s nonsense. There’s no proof of that at all. And there’s going to be others that come out, well, it’s just a big cover-up, and the FBI are involved, and the CIA is involved, and this is all from Mossad and Israel, and they’re the ones that caused all of this, and they wanted to take Charlie Kirk out because of the organization, the fact that he wasn’t going to take donations and blah. It’s a bunch of nonsense. You guys will grasp onto anything. And I get all worked up over this, and I know I shouldn’t. I’ve been saying this stuff for years when it comes to conspiracies. And let me just say this, and I’ll boast on this. I’m not a boastful guy. You guys know that. I try to be as humble as I possibly can, but I’m going to boast in this case. You’re always wrong, and I’m always right. I’ll say that again. You’re always wrong, and I’m always right. All of you that come out with all of these different conspiracies, and this is the answer, and this is what really happened, and on and on and on we go. Guess who’s always right? Me. Guess who’s always wrong? You guys. And here’s why. You’re all grasping at things that don’t exist because you want it to be that way. You desire it to be that way. I look at it from a very rational viewpoint. Factually, rationally, here’s the facts. I try to be Joe Friday. Just the facts, ma’am. Just the facts. I don’t need all of the other gobbledygook that goes along with it. I don’t need all the emotions to go along with it. Just give me the facts and I’ll decipher it from there on my own. And that’s what I do. I look at things factually and I read a lot. And no, I don’t listen to other podcasters and I don’t listen to Tucker Carlson and I don’t listen to this person or that person and nor will I. And by the way, don’t tell me to because I won’t. There’s several reasons, by the way. I’ve said this before in the past. I don’t listen to others. One, I don’t want to be infiltrated in my mind with what they think. I want my own thoughts. So I don’t listen to others. I don’t listen to other talk shows. I don’t listen to podcasts. I don’t watch news. I don’t watch TV. I keep my thoughts to myself. And I use my own brain to come up with my own thoughts and opinions. Yes, I do read a lot, and I read a lot from a lot of different sources. And I’ve said this before, not just Fox News. In fact, I will tell you that there are days I never look at their site. I don’t watch their programs, and I don’t look at their site a lot of days. Some days I will just to see what else is out there and if there’s any breaking news and so on, but most days I don’t. Frankly, I read a lot more liberal sites than I do conservative sites because I want to know what the liberals are thinking, what they’re doing, and what they’re up to. And so far it’s made it out very well for me to do so. It’s come out very well for me to do that. I’ve even had some of you that I admire dearly say, hey, John, you should listen to this person or listen to that person or they’re really good or you should hear this, you should hear that. And I appreciate that, but I won’t because I don’t want to be – I don’t want my brain convoluted with things it doesn’t need to be convoluted with. Let me just say it that way. So I don’t. So in this particular situation, a lot of you want things to be a certain way that quite frankly just aren’t. And as Bob Duco will tell you in about an hour, sometimes the easiest explanation is the right explanation, is the right answer. And I’ll leave it at that. I’ll come right back. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. When it comes to your roof, make sure that things are working correctly and that you’re all dialed in. And that may have a huge, will, in fact, have a huge effect upon your insurance and your coverage. 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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, and that little tangent that I was on for a moment. That, you know, I call it a tangent, but those things are near and dear to me. I think it does a lot of injustice to our side for those of you that claim to be on our side, and I put quotes around claim, to spew out some of the nonsense that you spew out because now it affects all of us, myself included. And I’m not a part of that camp. I’m not a part of your camp. I don’t want to be a part of your camp. And you’re doing damage to the rest of the camp by the nonsense that you think and spew out. So check yourself before you start believing and reposting and talking about some of these conspiracy theories that are out there because they’re just that. conspiracy theories, not the same kind of conspiracy theories that I had going through COVID because those weren’t conspiracy theories. Those were facts that have been proven true ever since. So, Hour 3 is next. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
