From the comedic to the deeply spiritual, religious themes are ever-present in the cinematic world. This week, the Rush to Reason team laughs over Monty Python, ponders the symbolism in The Matrix, and reflects on soul-moving pieces like I Can Only Imagine. Don’t miss their passionate conversations as they unpick the layers of storytelling tied to beliefs and faith.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Richard, are you with us? That I am. Okay. Religious movies. Andy, we’re going to get things rolling here. Richard has to go a little bit earlier than normal, so let’s fire it off.
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Okay. And just so you know, I go very broadly on this topic.
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Okay. Anything that’s got religion in it. I didn’t, but that’s okay.
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Okay. This first one is from a very old movie. It’s Monty Python’s Life of Brian. Brian is a guy who was born at the same time as Christ, and he thought he was the Christ, and he wasn’t. He was just not very bright. But anyway, the reason I’m playing this, and folks, it’s about a minute long, but it is a clip where they are, one of the characters in it, they are basically wanting to lead… a revolt against the Romans. And one of the characters in it just gets into the fact that he wants to be a woman. And this is very prescient for today. Just listen to John Cleese. Here we go.
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I want to have babies. You want to have babies? It’s every man’s right to have babies if he wants them. But you can’t have babies. Don’t you oppress me. I’m not oppressing you, Stan. I’ve got a womb. Where’s the fetus gonna just take? You’re gonna keep it in a box?
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Here, I’ve got an idea. Suppose you agree that he can’t actually have babies, not having a womb, which is nobody’s fault, not even the Romans’, but that he can have the right to have babies.
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Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister. What’s the point? What’s the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can’t have babies? It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression. Symbolic of his struggle against reality.
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Okay.
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I just thought that given everything we’ve gone through the last few years, would you say that’s pretty prescient, John? Yeah. What do you think, Richard?
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I was going to say it’s sort of, you know, I know that’s obviously an older movie, but, you know, not too shabby of sort of a depiction of today. I know. They got it back then.
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Why don’t we today? Richard, you are up.
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Okay. So you said religious and what are my allowances?
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Broad religious movies. If religion’s in the movie, I guess it counts.
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Yeah.
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Anything with religion. Any kind of religion.
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Oh, geez. Geez, Andy. All right. Quite the topic here.
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I told John that one in advance. Okay. Go ahead.
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All right, I’m going to go rough here, but it is. I’m going to go with one of your most, well, maybe not most favorite, but one of the better animated movies, Kung Fu Panda, because there’s like some Buddhist stuff in there.
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There is Buddhist stuff in there, especially the third one. It gets way too much. So good job.
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Well done. It does. It gets wonky, but yeah, there you go.
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All right, John, you’re up. History of the world. Do you have a clip from that one?
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I don’t.
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You don’t? Andy.
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Well, I’m sorry.
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I’ve played the Inquisition before. The history of the world where, you know, he’s up there and it’s Moses and he’s got the 15 commandments and he breaks one tablet and now it’s the 10 commandments. It’s hilarious.
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I bring to you the 15. Crash. The 10. The 10 commandments.
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Mel Brooks. Mel Brooks.
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i am a terrible person for not playing that and i’m a failure that’s all right go ahead okay here’s a good movie from last year and it was a christian movie starring hillary swank and ellen richson called ordinary angels here we go michelle will need to fly 700 miles to the children’s hospital are you telling me we need a plane now how exactly do you recommend we get a plane doc i’ll get you a plane i promise
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We are going to save this girl, you hear me?
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We’re going to need a lot of shovels.
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This is our last chance. If we don’t take it, Michelle dies.
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How did it become your responsibility to save her? Because I’m here. Because I can.
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And I believe Hilary Swank was up for Best Actress. Which movie is that again? Ordinary Angels.
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Ordinary Angels.
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I gave it four stars. It was a good movie, very strong movie, and a Christian movie.
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Okay.
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There you go. It was made, actually, by the same people who just made the movie I just saw.
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Oh, Angel. Yeah. Angel Studios. Angel Studios. Okay, gotcha. There you go.
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Richard, you’re up.
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Okay, this is another good animated, because surprisingly, there’s actually some good animated. Well, I’m assuming, because did you see the new animated movie, I guess? Is that what there are? Yeah, King of Kings. Yeah, the King of Kings. Okay, well, so similar, although this is kind of like one of my first ones. Great soundtrack on this movie, by the way, which is Prince of Egypt.
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Okay, let’s play a little. Here we go.
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Rescued from a river.
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Come, Rameses. We will show Pharaoh your new baby brother, Moses.
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second born second place not for long raised by royalty you are not a prince of egypt what did you say everything i am is a lie you are our son i can’t stay here any longer moses please goodbye brother the truth gave him the courage to do the impossible
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Anyway, I thought The Prince of Egypt was very well done. How about you, Richard? I agree. Yep.
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No, again, it’s one of my favorite soundtracks movies from my youth, and it is very well done. They did a good job on it. I mean, obviously, a lot of, I’ll just say, a lot of hard-nosed Christians are going to say, oh, you know, not super. It’s like it was still a good movie. Yeah, that’s all that matters. They did a good job on it. And it told us, you know, it didn’t water down too much, you know?
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Look, at least it didn’t wreck the biblical narrative like Russell Crowe’s Noah. Right. Okay, I mean, at least it was faithful enough. It was for kids.
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Come on. What you guys are talking about is those are the purest Christians that don’t like that movie, just like purest GOP members won’t do certain candidates. Did I say that? You had to put it in. I’m sorry.
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You’re upset. You can’t say that, but you did. It’s okay.
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Nobody thinks of this as a religious movie, but it is Book of Eli.
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Oh, yeah.
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That’s a religious movie.
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Oh, very much. Very much so, right? Yes. By the way, one of my favorites. Good job. All right, let’s take a couple of calls. We’ll slip these in. John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
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All right, well, I’m going to see Richard’s Prince of Egypt and raise him the Ten Commandments. Ah. Oh, yeah. Same story. Okay, that works. Same story, but…
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By the way, that may just flat out be the greatest religious movie ever made. Of all time. I mean, it’s top five.
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I agree.
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I mean, that’s one that if it’s on, you’ve got to watch it. That’s right. Even though you’ve seen it probably 20 times.
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But he doesn’t do the 15 commandments.
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No, it’s 10. In Technicolor, right, John? Technicolor. Yeah, he fell short.
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In Technicolor.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, well, you know, Cecil B. DeMille made some big movies. Yeah. But I got two others real quick that are, but they’re not religious movies. Okay. And that’s Raiders of the Lost Ark. Oh, yes. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.
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Okay, let me play a quick clip from Raiders. Here we go.
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Tannis.
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The city of Tannis is one of the possible resting places of the Lost Ark. The Lost Ark. Yeah, the Ark of the Covenant, the chest the Hebrews used to carry around the Ten Commandments. What do you mean, Ten Commandments? You’re talking about the Ten Commandments? Yes, the actual Ten Commandments, the original stone tablets that Moses brought down out of Mount Herod and smashed, if you believe in that sort of thing. Did you guys ever go to Sunday school? Well, I don’t know.
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You guys ever go to Sunday school?
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I’d like to remind everybody that while they made six of these Raiders movies, only the two that were made about biblical ideas were good.
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Yeah. Think about that.
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Yeah, think about that. I think the best part is in Last Crusade when they’re in the catacombs. And she goes, what?
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We lost you. You dropped out, John. Yeah, oh, you dropped out for a moment. But, yeah, you’re talking about where she says, is that the Ark of the Covenant? It’s on the wall. She says, are you sure? Yeah, pretty sure.
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That’s good. The one other catch, I don’t know if you caught it in the Crystal Skull, when they’re doing the chase scene in the warehouse and they hit the crate and break open the Ark of the Covenant crate
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Yeah. That was funny.
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So, yeah, there’s some great religious movies, but I don’t want to steal anymore. So you guys have a great weekend.
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You too, John. Appreciate you, man. Let’s go to Soren. Soren, go ahead.
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Hey, it’s just me and John, but we flip-flopped again.
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That’s all right.
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Ben-Hur is one of them.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Great one. Great one.
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And then you have Jesus Revolution. That came out just a couple years ago. That was pretty good, too.
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Yeah, that was also made by Angel Studios. And I thought it was a good movie starring Kelsey Grammer. I gave it four stars. And I thought it would do great, and it did. Good. Okay.
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Awesome. Awesome. Soren, thank you, man. Appreciate it. All right. We’ll keep rolling. We’ll go all the way to the bottom of the hour. So keep going, Andy.
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Okay. Here we go. I can only imagine. That is a Christian movie. That was the first one I’d seen from Angel, and I actually gave that four and a half stars. I thought it was an excellent movie, a tight story, very well directed and well edited and well acted. There weren’t many downsides at all to I Can Only Imagine. Richard, did you see that one?
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I don’t think I ever saw that one, Andy, but I heard it. Like you said, I heard it was great.
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It was great. It was a terrific movie. You’re up.
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All right. Let’s see here. Okay. Again, another animated. They seem to do that a lot, which is okay. Oh, yeah. I’m going to go with the star.
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Yes.
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By the way, the only thing I’m going to add on John is the Ten Commandments. Whenever it’s on, you’ve got to watch it. Yeah, just make sure you’ve got five hours.
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Yeah, that’s true. It’s a little long.
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Get a little nap in there.
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You always know where you’re at when you wake up. It’s not a problem.
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You and the wife can watch it in shifts.
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Yeah.
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And shift. That’s right, Andy.
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Again, you can take a nap and wake up. You always know where you are. Corey and I literally tag at the ropes, and she comes in. If you miss anything, you know right where you’re at. It’s not a problem.
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Yeah, you know the story.
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Yeah, exactly. You’ve only seen it 100 times, so easy enough.
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Good job. But The Star, that’s a good movie, too. I like it.
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I’m going to try to, let’s see here, pick some that most people wouldn’t think of. Some of these are going to be a little bit older. How about The Hiding Place?
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Oh, I did not think of that.
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And it’s old. That’s not a current movie. That’s from way back.
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Okay, let’s do a fairly old, a very old movie. Here we go.
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Yeah. For me and the Lord, we’ve got an understanding. We’re on a mission from God.
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The Blues Brothers. Yeah, but the whole thing is about their mission from God. Come on. That’s religious. Yeah, true. Richard, you’re up.
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Okay.
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Richard got saved watching that movie.
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Something like that, Andy.
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Yeah, something like that. Go ahead.
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All right. I think it’s a Christian movie. I mean, there’s some pieces in it. Ben-Hur. Again, you got to make sure you got 10 hours to watch it.
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We mentioned that already, but that’s okay. You can mention it again. I had two listeners. I had two texters say that, too. Soren said it. Soren said Ben-Hur. But Ben-Hur counts.
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Oh, there you go.
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Okay, so I’m going to throw one in that it’s hard to determine which one I like better, but either Ben-Hur or Spartacus.
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They’re both good.
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They’re both very good.
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Yeah, it’s kind of hard to say.
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Right.
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Okay, now here’s a movie that’s actually very religious, believe it or not. The connotations. Matrix. Matrix.
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Mr. Anderson, welcome back. Mr. Anderson. We missed you. You like what I’ve done with the place? It ends tonight. I know it does. I’ve seen it. That’s why the rest of me is just gonna enjoy the show. Because we already know that I’m the one that beats you.
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The Matrix was actually some of the best doctrine, at least with the first one of the three that I’ve ever seen in a movie, which was really surprising. These weren’t Christians who made the movie. And by the way, great movies. There you go. Richard, you’re up.
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No, you’re not wrong, Andy. All right. So one, this is one of my favorite books in series, and they made a movie out of it, and it wasn’t fantastic, but it was still good. And that is, it was by Frank Peretti, and it’s Hangman’s Curse.
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Hmm.
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. The books are phenomenal. I mean, it’s basically this Christian family, and they are like detectives, and they try to figure out, like, it’s a mom and a dad and then two kids and a little boy, and they have to, like, integrate themselves into this high school because they say that there’s demons that are, you know, possessing this high school and that are, you know, killing people, and it’s really not an illogical conclusion. But they’re a Christian family. Hmm. We talk about it throughout. All right.
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We’d be wrong if we didn’t say Left Behind. Yeah. Kirk Cameron. The whole series. Yeah. Is there more than one, right?
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I think it got weak after a while. They were stretching it out.
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But the first one was good. Let’s make as much dough as we can on this thing.
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Yeah, make as much dough as we can. You are so insensitive.
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Well, it’s true.
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I know you are. It’s true. Okay. Bruce Almighty, and at one point, no, I’m not going to play the one which I’ve played so many times, but I’ll play a different one. You know, at one point he has been saying, smite me, almighty smiter, because he’s mad at God. Well, God has a little talk to him about that.
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The gloves are off, God. God has taken my bird and my bush. God is a mean kid with a magnifying glass.
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Quoting him.
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Smite me, almighty smiter. Now, I’m not much for blaspheming, but that last one made me laugh. Are you spying on me? Who are you? I’m the one. Huh? Creed of the heavens and the earth. Alpha and omega… Jeez.
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You know, when you’ve dug a hole, stop digging. Yeah, don’t go anymore. I know, but Jim Carrey, by the way, what a great performance like so many he had. So there you go. Richard, you’re up.
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All right, Andy. Let’s see here. I just had it in my head because I was, well, I’m not going to say. I guess, well, no, no, no. What’s the movie, the football movie, Giants? Facing the Giants, I think is what it’s called.
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Hang on.
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It actually is. By the way, I thought you were going to say the press conference where the Nuggets coach got fired because Richard was going, praise God, praise God, praise God. True.
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You are correct, Andy.
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Did you feel closer to God at that moment?
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Andy, I’ve never felt closer. Okay. Jeez. But, yes, facing the Giants is a really good – I mean, it’s a cheese ball. Don’t get me wrong. But when he carries the one kid across the field on his back and he’s blindfolded, I mean, that’s a great scene, right?
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Yeah. I agree. You’ve got to love that stuff. I agree.
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Go ahead, John.
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Soul Surfer.
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Yeah.
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Good movie. True story.
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Tough movie, man.
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Losing an arm to a shark? Yeah, no thanks.
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Wow.
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Okay. Joe, your X. Go ahead. How about Scrooged with Bill Murray? Yes! Scrooged.
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Yes!
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That’s a good one. I like it. It’s a Christmas carol, a redone and modern thing, and he meets the three ghosts. Good one. Anyway, I was going to do Bruce Almighty, but just as I called in, I heard you take it.
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Yeah, we did it. All right, Joe. Appreciate you, man, very much. All right, Andy. Yeah, I went. Go ahead. You’re next.
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Okay, let’s take a break from Christianity for a moment and get into a little Zen Buddhism via Yoda.
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For my ally is the force.
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It’s Charlie.
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And a powerful ally it is. Life creates it. Makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the force around you. Here, between you, me, the tree.
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They rock everywhere.
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You know, the dumbest religions do make the best movies. That’s what I got out of that. What do you think? The tree. The rock. Okay.
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Who voiced Yoda, by the way?
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We’re all in this together. I don’t know. Do you know Charlie? Frank Oz, maybe.
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Oh, Frank Oz. Oh, really? I was right. The Muppet dude.
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Frank Oz.
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I just lost all respect for Yoda.
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Because you had so much before.
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No, here’s the thing. It is just wrecking John’s entire reality, finding out that Yoda was a hand puppet. You had no idea. You thought he was real.
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Yeah, you’re right. You thought he was real.
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Richard, you’re up. All right here, Andy. Did you guys say The Shack?
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No. No, not yet. It’s on my list.
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Again, based on a book, good movie. Okay, good.
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Let’s see here. How about Omen?
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Hell yeah.
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That’s intense. It’s like the Antichrist. I mean, you know, it’s religious. It’s very religious. It’s about as religious as you get, right?
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I wasn’t going to play this one, but I’m going to now just because you were mean to me. So here we go.
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And in our prayers and dreams, we ask you bless us all.
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We reach for you and we stand tall.
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And in our prayers and dreams, we ask you, bless us all.
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Tiny Tim from Muppet Christmas Carol. Write it down, John. I don’t see you typing. No, no, I’m not. Well, you can type later. Okay, Richard, go ahead.
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All right. I’m going to go kind of similar to your I Can Only Imagine one, Andy. Heaven is for Real. Yeah.
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That’s on my list. Yeah. Good one. Good one. Yeah, that one counts.
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Go ahead, John.
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This is one you reviewed not long ago. I have not seen this, but I want to. Father Stu.
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I thought Father Stu was pretty good.
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Yeah.
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A little slow, but pretty good.
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I just haven’t stopped and watched it. I need to.
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And you know I like Mark Wahlberg.
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I can’t get enough.
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Okay, here we go with Unplanned.
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We are paying you to be a perfect instrument of corporate policy. We are an abortion provider.
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I can’t be a part of this anymore. Everything that they told us is a lie.
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Don’t underestimate the repercussions of this. You gotta be careful.
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Ronda, please! Don’t do this! Ronda! Let me tell you what’s gonna happen if you walk through that door. Congratulations. You make an enemy of one of the most powerful organizations on the planet.
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Unplanned about abortion, once again, Angel Studios, and a very good movie, by the way. Richard, you’re up.
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Let’s see here. Andy, The Forge. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay, good one, good one.
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Yeah, that one counts. Go ahead, John. I think that one’s on my list. Case for Christ. Good one, good one. Good movie, by the way, if you haven’t seen it, it’s a good movie. Got time for one more round, Richard?
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Okay, similar one. God’s not dead. Here we go.
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Oh, good one, Andy. Do you think you’re smarter than me?
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Do you think there’s any argument you can make that I won’t have an answer for? In that classroom, there is a God, and yet I’m him.
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It doesn’t seem quite fair to me.
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I can’t help what a boy wants to make a fool of himself.
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Look, I know I am in the minority here, but I actually believe in God.
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I think you’re here kind of hoping that this stuff is for real.
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He’s alive.
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What I want is for them to make their own choice. That’s what God wants.
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You just want to ensnare them in your primitive superstition.
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Why do you hate God?
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God’s not dead. Good movie, by the way. Kevin Sorbo. Yeah, it is a good movie. Richard, you’re up.
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All right, Andy. I would not be a religious section if I didn’t cheat. Of course. Which is The Chosen, which is on Prime. Cheater. That’s a good choice.
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Have you watched that?
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Have I watched it? No, I’ve heard it’s really good.
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I’ve never watched it, so I have no idea.
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I’ve got some friends that said it’s really good, and then they also say, I guess a lot of the same people watch The Chosen, say the new David series on Prime is also good too, but I have yet to watch both of those.
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I haven’t watched it either.
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All I know is you’re a cheater. Go ahead, John.
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I would have to say, even though I don’t know how many sermons against this movie I heard growing up, I’m sure Charlie can attest to this. God. God? Yeah, what was his name?
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You mean O God?
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No, was it O God? O God, O God. With George Burns and John Denver? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, I can’t tell you how many sermons I heard against that movie growing up.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. It was terrible doctrine. I don’t care. It was a fun little movie.
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We were not allowed to watch that movie. Were you, Charlie? Oh, there. Thank you. I was not the only one. All right, Richard, I’ll let you go. Have a great rest of your evening and weekend.
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Sounds good. Say hello to the chickens, everyone. We are starting with chickens.
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All right. Hello, chickens. Have fun. Lay some eggs. Go do whatever you do. What do chickens do? Lay eggs? That’s about it, right?
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Peck?
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Yes.
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All right, we are back. Again, we are in hour number two. We are doing religious movies. Joe sent an email in a moment ago to tack on to what he was saying, which is we would have to make sure we mention Linus in the greatest story ever told. When he gives a little speech for Christmas. A Charlie Brown Christmas. It’s in my list. That one would count. So there you go, Joe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And here’s a movie that obviously had no good doctrine. And it had Whoopi Goldberg. I don’t care. I love the music. And it is Sister Act. Here they are singing for the Pope.
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True love, you’ll always be my true love. Forever, from now until forever. I love you, I love you, I love you, and please don’t stop. I love you, I love you, and please don’t stop.
SPEAKER 1 :
I love you, I love you, and please don’t stop.
SPEAKER 07 :
Never saw that movie. It’s a fun movie. Really? Yeah, it is. I’ve never seen it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, she takes over. She has to lead a choir. She has a shady past and winds up having to lead this little bunch of nuns in a church choir, and it’s actually very fun.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fireproof.
SPEAKER 08 :
Fireproof.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s a good one. Kind of a cheesy movie, but good. Message was good.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is good. Okay, here’s a clip from Hacksaw Ridge.
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I’m going to get you home.
SPEAKER 15 :
There’s something you gotta see.
SPEAKER 12 :
Who did this?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s the guy.
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We have to go back up tomorrow. And they’re not gonna go up there without you.
SPEAKER 1 :
Help me.
SPEAKER 06 :
You have to trust me.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, he was the guy who would not carry a weapon, but he would run in and save people’s lives.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, dissenter, what do they call them? What do they call those guys? Dissenters or what do they call them, Charlie, when they would go but they wouldn’t fight? Conscientious objector.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, a conscientious objector I thought was one who wouldn’t go.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 08 :
All I know is he did go, he was brave, and he would not kill.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s another movie I really need to see. Yeah, there you go. It’s a good movie, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Pretty good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. You’re up? Since it’s Easter, Passion of the Christ.
SPEAKER 08 :
Obviously.
SPEAKER 07 :
Got to say that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great one. Okay, one that’s not nearly as good biblically, Steve Martin in Leap of Faith. Here we go.
SPEAKER 01 :
All he’s doing is selling fairy tales to a bunch of people. Why is it not playing?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s only on one channel, Charlie said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there is something wrong here. Then tell you what, I’m going to skip that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because there is a problem. And hopefully this will play. And this is Nicolas Cage in Ghost Rider. Oh. That’s about the other religion, the devil. Here we go.
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You will be the rider for as long as you. Story goes that he’ll be normal during the day. But at night, in the presence of evil, the rider takes over.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t care what anyone says. That was a fun movie. That was a fun movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was. You’re right. I enjoyed it. Second one was corny and dumb. Cheesy, but… Yeah. There you go. But, you know, still good.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. You’re up. Chariots of Fire. Yeah. I’ve played the song so much, that’s why I didn’t cue it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, we don’t have to. That’s fine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. You know, what about priests fighting vampires? Here we go from Priest.
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If you take any action to leave the cities, you will be stripped from the order and excommunicated immediately.
SPEAKER 12 :
The war is long over. It’s not over. Not for me.
SPEAKER 08 :
That is visually one of the funnest movies I’ve seen. I love Priest.
SPEAKER 07 :
I really do. That’s another one I haven’t seen.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s not a great movie, but it’s a cool movie. And it was interesting because it was a different kind of vampires. They were just like these monsters with no eyes or whatever. but then they were led by a different kind of vampire, and that’s all I’ll say. Really good acting, excellent movie, some pretty big stars in it throughout. A lot of fun. Priest.
SPEAKER 07 :
Crossing the Switchblade, another old movie. You know what? From when we were kids.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. That was the story of, is it?
SPEAKER 07 :
What’s his name again? David? Yeah. That was a popular movie when we were kids.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was about Wilkerson. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, thanks, Charlie. Thank you, Charlie. Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was very, very cool. Okay, I did not think of that one. Okay, how about this one? Expelled, no intelligence allowed. Expelled? Expelled? No intelligence allowed. Yeah, it’s about, you know, intelligence and about evolution being wrong, really.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ve never seen it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Intelligent design. And it doesn’t talk specifically much about God, although it’s mentioned, but it talks about intelligent design and the ludicrous nature of, you know, just only teaching evolution in schools.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was really quite good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Luther.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that’s on my list. Okay. That’s an intense Christian movie. It is an intense Christian movie, isn’t it? Mm-hmm. Okay, now here’s one that awful doctrine. Okay, I’m just going to say it. Terrible doctrine. Don’t care. Wow, what great music. Jesus Christ Superstar.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ve never seen it either.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my goodness. We weren’t allowed to watch that one either, Charlie. Well, for good reason. It’d mess you up. It had terrible doctrine. I’m just saying, incredible music. We were not allowed to watch that as kids. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not on the list. Ruth.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, one of my most favorite, not the most, but one of my favorite Bible characters.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very cool. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I like Ruth. I love the story of Ruth. Okay. And Boaz. All right, let’s go to one from my wife. And why worship just one God when you can worship a lot of gods? Hercules! It’s a silly cartoon. It’s a Disney cartoon. And by the way, it was a fun Disney cartoon, a good movie. Have you seen it?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I never have.
SPEAKER 08 :
You should. Well, you don’t like kids’ cartoons.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not really. It’s a good one. Really quick, jump back to Ruth for just a second. Good music, fun. We’re always accused from the left of being the right Christians. We’re anti-women or this or that, all these different things. So then why is an entire book of the Bible dedicated to a woman who is in the lineage of Christ if we’re so anti-woman, Andy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because we’re not. I mean, jeez. You know what a lot of people don’t understand also is they look at the place that women had in a lot of those cultures back then, and the Bible reflects that. Of course, it was written within those cultures. And what they don’t understand is the Jews actually put women in a much more prominent position than all the groups around them.
SPEAKER 07 :
All the other nations. That’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
People didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re right, Andy. Absolutely. Anyway, go ahead. All right, let’s take a break. We’ll take a break. We’ll come back. Flesh Laws up next, 303-806-8886.
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, rolling through some religious movies. And yeah, we’ve taken some liberties on some of these, Andy, which is fine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that’s the fun of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, how about The Church Fighting Monsters? Oh. And this is a great action movie. It stars Hugh Jackman, Van Helsing.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ve never… That’s another one I’ve got to watch.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, you’ve got to watch it, John. You’ve got to watch Van Helsing.
SPEAKER 07 :
You keep telling me that, and I never have seen it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s a good movie. Have you seen that, Charlie? Is it good? Yeah, he likes it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I’ll have to watch it. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
That comes in from my wife.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, Bonhoeffer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Bonhoeffer! Okay, here’s another one with a very… It’s called Hellboy…
SPEAKER 07 :
Never seen it either.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, but he, obviously, he actually carries a cross. He comes from hell, but, you know, he’s not a real fan of them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Of his upbringing?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Ron Perlman stars as Hellboy. It’s a terrific movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, you’re up. Sound of Freedom. Sound of Freedom, very good. How about The Sound of Music? She was a nun, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ve never seen the movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Come on.
SPEAKER 07 :
I haven’t. You haven’t seen The Sound of Music. Andy, Andy, it’s a musical. How many musicals have I ever seen? Okay, John, here, I’ll give you some money. Go buy a soul. I watched Grease. That’s about Charlie Found One. I’ve seen Grease because there’s cars and stuff in it, so I watched that one. Go buy a soul. Yeah. And it had Olivia Newton-John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, you’re up.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t know why, but you’re up. 90 Minutes to Heaven. Or 90 Minutes in Heaven.
SPEAKER 08 :
You shouldn’t do religious movies because you don’t have a soul.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I don’t.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sorry about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s gone.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. All right. Let’s go a different belief system for a moment. Gandhi. Ben Kingsley. What a great performance.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, you’re up. Yeah, I didn’t think about that one. I honestly didn’t think about that one at all. Mary. Mary.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Mary, definitely. Here’s one I didn’t… I thought Richard was going to bring up, but I’m going to do it in his honor. Jonah, a VeggieTales movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, that’s a good one, Andy. Okay, here’s a question. Just a side note. Here’s a question. Sure. With today’s CGI and everything we have, why not make a modern-day Jonah movie? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You could do it. With everything we’ve got where you could do it now with CGI and it would be much easier than way back when they were doing Ten Commandments and all of that. Why not? Yeah, and you wouldn’t have to butcher it or anything. No, you wouldn’t want to kill the whale anyways.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. He was nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
He threw Jonah up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he was. Let’s go on the Wayback Machine with Richard Burton, The Robe. The Robe. It was The Robe of Christ, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wasn’t there a cartoon about Joseph, The Code of Many Colors or something like that? Wasn’t that a movie too?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s a musical. Yeah, The Amazing Technicolor.
SPEAKER 07 :
Joseph and The Amazing Technicolor. Okay, and I never saw it either, but I just knew it was a movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was a musical, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
You wouldn’t have liked it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I would not have.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was groovy, man. It was groovy. I would not. Donny Osmond was in that? Oh, really? I forgot that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn’t know that, Charlie. Okay, you’re up. Well, that was it. I’ll give you that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. Evan Almighty. Oh.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, there you go. Why didn’t I think of that one? Evan Almighty.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s another… Hey, who plays God better than Morgan Freeman?
SPEAKER 07 :
No one. The voice.
SPEAKER 08 :
He was great.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, when you think of God’s voice, isn’t that what you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
Him or James Earl Jones.
SPEAKER 07 :
One of the two, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, really, literally. Okay, you’re up. Samson.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, good. How about The Chronicles of Narnia?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that one works. Yeah. Miracles from Heaven. Okay, how about The Greatest Story Ever Told? Oh, that’s a good one, Andy. Good job. October Baby.
SPEAKER 08 :
October Baby. Okay, how about Constantine?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s the other way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’ve got to fight against those demons. Got to take them on, John. Little Keanu Reeves going to work. Yeah. Okay. Jesus of Nazareth. Yes. How about Morgan Freeman again, but this time as an investigator going after a killer who uses the seven deadly sins as his guide, and that is seven.
SPEAKER 07 :
Seven. Okay. Does ghost count?
SPEAKER 08 :
Not really, but sure, why not?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s afterlife. Afterlife stuff. Yeah. It’s a chick flick. Okay. It is.
SPEAKER 08 :
How about The Blind Side? There you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s a religious movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is, actually. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
How so?
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s religious overtones. They’re very Christian there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
In that family. There you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Pilgrim’s Progress.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yes. How about Unbreakable?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. That’s a good one. Son of God. Son of God. How about Amazing Grace? Yes. Oh, yeah, that’s a good one, Andy. Yep. Man, some of these I did not think as well as you did. You’re doing much better. War Room.
SPEAKER 08 :
War Room, that’s been used.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, so you already did that one? Letters to God, then.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. How about Rooster Cogburn? Catherine Hepburn was the Bible-thumping lady. She was great.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Drove him nuts. Okay. Hang on. Some of these I’ve got to delete off of here. Paul. Paul.
SPEAKER 08 :
Paul. Okay. Silence. Now, this had Andrew Garfield, Adam Driver, Liam Neeson, and that is about these missionaries going to China.
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We don’t yell at you.
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We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason. All right, winding things down. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, religious movies. A couple that came in from Joe is, and this is from somebody else as well, The Da Vinci Code.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. Really quick here. Just so you know, since I… Made a few comments about Christians in the theaters. I have now been excommunicated from several denominations. Oh, gotcha. Okay, how about When the Game Stands Tall?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that’s a good one. Yep. Go. Jazz singer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Jazz singer, really? I don’t remember.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s not really Neil Diamond’s story, but it’s kind of his story.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. It’s a wonderful life.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, good one. Yeah. Two Mules for Sister Sarah.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, that’s good.
SPEAKER 07 :
She’s a nun, right? That’s true.
SPEAKER 08 :
By the way, it’s a wonderful life should be. It’s a miserable life.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Chronicles of Narnia, Prince Caspian. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exorcist.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, you took mine. I Still Believe. Oh, that’s a good one. Yeah. Cabrini. Cabrini. That was a good one.
SPEAKER 07 :
You just reviewed that one, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I gave it four stars. Yeah. One of the best of the year. Chronicles of Narnia, Voyage of the Dawn Treader.
SPEAKER 07 :
You have to keep going because I’m out. I’m done. I’ve exhausted mine finally.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, just a few others. We got The Bishop’s Wife.
SPEAKER 07 :
Bishop’s Wife.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, The Bishop’s Wife. The Bells of St. Mary. Okay. The Nun. That’s a horror movie. The Nun. A couple years ago. It was good and scary. I liked it. Dogma. That made fun of religion.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, here’s one for you. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Does Tombstone count? Because remember when they shoot the priest in the beginning of the movie, the cowboys?
SPEAKER 08 :
Don’t think so.
SPEAKER 07 :
That one doesn’t count, Andy. I’m not going to go that far. Okay, okay. Just wondering.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, no, no, no. But wait a minute. What about on his deathbed? Oh, true. Doc Holliday. Yeah, true. That was actually, okay. True. We’ll go with it. Okay. The House of David. Okay. And angels in the outfield.
SPEAKER 07 :
Those are all good. Yeah. And again, those of you that are listening, I’m sure you have some of your own, and if you do, bottom line, it’s Palm Sunday this weekend. Easter, of course, is next weekend. Watch some religious movies, whatever your favorites are, and remember why this is all here, and I will just close with this. While everybody loves Christmas, and that’s great, without Easter, it don’t matter.
SPEAKER 08 :
It don’t matter.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that’s all I’m going to say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Without the end of the story, the beginning doesn’t matter.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s right. So guys, have a great rest of your evening. Don’t forget tomorrow morning, Fix It Radio, 9 o’clock. We’re going to talk about sprinkler system, firing things up. Alan Stack from Stack Optical will be with me as well. And then we’ll follow it up with Thrive Radio. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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I’m a rich guy.
