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The Rush to Reason crew goes full football this week! John Rush, Andy Peth, and Richard battle it out with their NFL game picks—Packers, Broncos, Colts, and more—breaking down who’s hot, who’s not, and who’s just hanging on until Week 10. Then, it’s time for the ultimate showdown of football movies. From Remember the Titans to The Waterboy, Friday Night Lights to Rudy (cue Richard’s rage), the team argues over which gridiron films actually score and which should ride the bench. Along the way, listeners call in with their own picks, John’s wife reveals she once knew Vince Papale,
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, and Richard, are you there? Oh, that I am. All right. Then you guys can take it away. NFL picks.
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Okay, Richard, to open up, my Green Bay Packers are 7.5-point favorites. They’re on the road at the Cleveland Browns, who have been struggling. Will the Packers learn from the Bills’ sleepwalking against Miami last night? Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, Andy. What’s the line on this, Andy? Because that’s a better question to me, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the line is 7.5, and the reason is Cleveland’s defense, their defensive front has been formidable. It’s really good. Yeah, and they’ve held teams to one of the best, lowest yards per carry in the league. I don’t think Green Bay’s going to run the ball well. I think Green Bay’s going to struggle, but I don’t like Cleveland’s offense at all.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nope, I’m with you, Andy. Well, again, we talked about this last week, right? They should go to – if Dylan Gabriel should do it or whatever it is, as much as I like Flacco and I actually think he’s a decent bridge quarterback for a team when you’re the Browns, you’ve got to figure out what you have with these young guys. And they’re not doing that. And I know you talked about, okay, they probably will by week four, week five. Well – To me, that’s a few extra weeks that you can kind of figure out what you’ve got, in my opinion. But your Packers should have no issues, Andy. You’re not super far of a travel for the game. I know that you’ve got some banged-up receivers. I think Jaden Reed is out, if I’m not mistaken, or maybe he’ll play.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, he’s out for eight weeks.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so yeah, that’s right. Broken collarbone, right, if I’m correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, you know, Andy, as much as that, this should be a good tune-up game for the Packers. They are the team, Andy, and I’ll say it now, and I know you’re probably going to say it’s too early because you’re a fan, and if you said this about the Broncos, I’d be saying the same thing. They need to be taking each game to fix issues and correct. I’m not saying they should take a team lightly, but they should just kind of continue to improve off of every game, right? Every opportunity they get, you know, work out those kinks, figure out does this work, does it not work, make the playoffs, and then you make your run, right? They just need to keep on that upward trajectory and hit their peak in the playoffs, and then continue and hopefully win the Super Bowl. So obviously I’m going to take the Packers here. It may be a little bit closer for most of the game, Andy, but I actually ultimately think the Packers will end up covering and they’ll pull it out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I agree. I see the Packers struggling in the first half. I think they’re going to look past them. and then putting it together in the second half. Next game, the Colts are playing the Titans. Now, the Broncos have faced both these teams in the first two weeks. Colts are favored by four and a half, although the game is in Tennessee. What do you think? Are the Colts an easy pick on the road?
SPEAKER 16 :
They feel like they are. I mean, obviously watching them last week, although I don’t love their defense, Andy. I know that they’re an opportunistic defense. Their offense, I think, is solid. And I think actually Shane Steichen, What impressed me last week, Andy, wasn’t as much Daniel Jones as it was their offensive line that’s really, really good. And Shane Steichen is just a really good, I actually think he’s a really good offensive line. And if you actually go back through his past stops, I think that sort of proves it, which we don’t have time to do right now. However, I actually think the Titans are going to be a competitive team most of the year. With that being said, I’m going to take the Colts. I just don’t quite think that the Titans have it. And it’s a divisional game, which is hard to really plan for if you’re a rookie. Lots of things you have to get used to. So I’ll go with the Colts on the road.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, I’ll take the Colts too. And by the way, the Colts have a pretty good running back. That doesn’t hurt either. Okay, here we go. Got the Bengals are at the Vikings. Vikings favored by two and a half, but this is a battle of backup quarterbacks. Is this really about the rest of the rosters though? Not the quarterbacks. What do you think?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, Andy, it is. I mean, again, J.J. McCarthy already hurt with an ankle sprain. Different conversation there. And obviously the Bengals, which we talked about this last week. We didn’t anticipate this happening, Andy. But my goodness, we’ll see how the Bengals are. They may get that boost and that bump, Andy. But the Vikings, it’s not Wentz isn’t their guy, is he? Yeah, I think it is. I think it is. And honestly, Andy, I actually think Wentz is a really good quarterback for Kevin O’Connell in that team. And obviously, you’re talking about good offensive coaches. That’s who I think it is. So I’m going to go with the Vikings here at home, Andy. I think that they have a better roster than the Bengals as a whole. Granted, I think the Bengals probably have a better… maybe some skill positions, although obviously the Vikings got their own fair share of talent. So I’m just going to go with the better, who I think is the better coach here, and I’ll go with the Vikings.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I’m going to take the Vikings. I just think they’re more talented. I don’t think two and a half is enough, in fact. Okay, next game. Interesting game. The Steelers are favored by one and a half on the road at the Patriots. Now, the quarterbacks are going to be the story here, but are either of these teams any good? I mean, really, are the teams good?
SPEAKER 16 :
Are the teams good? I like how you said, really, are the teams good? I think the Patriots are on the right track, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I like what they’re building, but they’re not there, are they?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I don’t think they’re there yet, Andy, but I also don’t think that the Steelers are as bad as they were there. I think they’re kind of more to the middle. No, the Patriots aren’t there yet. They’re improving. They will continue, but they’re going to have their ups and downs, but I think Vrabel will get them on the right track. I’m going to go with just a more seasoned team here, Andy. I think this game will probably be relatively close, which is what the line indicates, but I’ll go with the Steelers on the road over the Patriots.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we’re four for four. That’s who I’m taking to. Okay, the next game, I think this is the game of the week, Richard. You’ve got the Rams at the Eagles. Eagles favored by three and a half. But the Rams, they’ve looked hotter so far. But then again, who have they played? What do you think?
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, Andy, I was just going to say that the Eagles, granted they are 2-0, and they beat the lowly Cowboys, they beat the Chiefs last week, although… They did not play overly great, to be honest with you, last week. They struggled a little bit more with that Chiefs team than I thought. And by the way, Andy, my prediction did come true, which is, you know, if I was going to pick against the Chiefs or I was going to pick the Chiefs with the hope that they lost, too. And it worked. It worked. Yeah, Andy, I’m with you. Game of the week. I don’t know why this game isn’t in the afternoon window, but that’s it. stupid Dallas question, which we’ll get to that here in a second. Yeah, Andy, I think the Rams are really good. I’m actually going to take the Rams on the road here. I just think the Eagles are, I don’t want to say they’re sleepwalking through the first part of this schedule, but they just haven’t looked overly dominant yet. So the Rams, I think, are hotter. Their defense is playing really, really well right now, and Matt Stafford looks like he has at least another few years of really good football left in him.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, man, I was going to take the Rams, too, but we’ve been the same on every single game, and I know we’re going to be for a while. I’m going to switch and take the Eagles so we can be different.
SPEAKER 16 :
I like it. You’ll probably be right, Andy, so I understand.
SPEAKER 11 :
Somehow I doubt that on this one. Okay, the next game, the Jets, and they’re struggling. They’re on the road at the Buccaneers. Buccaneers favored by 6.5. Question is, 6.5 enough? I mean, what do the Jets really have? They’ve got a fast defense, but I don’t see much else.
SPEAKER 16 :
oh yeah andy well and it’s because justin justin field is out right i think he is in fact i think there are like five backups starting this week yeah it’s it’s all i think he’s in the concussion protocol i doubt he plays the buccaneers are the upstart baker you’ll kind of will them back last week andy again i think and actually i like the jets and i like their new coach i just think that You want to talk about a snake-bitten franchise, man. I mean, whatever they sold their soul for for Super Bowl, was that one or two? Like, my gosh, you think they would maybe want to get that back and win some more Super Bowls more recently. Yeah, Andy, I like this. They’re going to Florida. It’s going to be nice and warm down there. I like Baker. I like the Buccaneers, especially in that division. So, yeah, I’m going to take the Bucs at home. And I think they actually probably cover about a touchdown spread, if I’m not mistaken.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I take the Bucs as well. I agree. Next game, pretty good game here. The Raiders are on the road at the Commanders. Now, you would think the Commanders would kill them, but they’re only favored by three and a half. Can Washington bounce back from humiliation after their Week 2 defeat?
SPEAKER 16 :
Um… Jaden Daniels is out, Andy, I believe. I don’t know if they confirmed that today or not. Oh, he is? I think so. Ooh. Okay. Hold on. I’m going to pull it up as I’m talking here to see, and I don’t know. Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. To me, if Daniels is out, it’s really not a good… Well, actually, here, I’m going to pull it up, Andy. Yeah, yeah. Brain left knee, did not practice, and I don’t think he practiced. It’s status iffy. So let’s do a caveat here, Andy, so we don’t take up too much air time. If Jaden Daniels plays, I think even though he’s hurt, I think the Commanders win. If he doesn’t play, I don’t even know who their backup is, to be honest with you. I think the Raiders are going to look to get back in the winning column. Pete Carroll, the only thing that makes me nervous, Andy, regardless, is the Raiders, a West Coast team traveling to the East Coast for an early kickoff.
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That’s good.
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Doesn’t bode well. But, again, if Jaden Daniels isn’t going to play, then I’m going to go with the Raiders. I think this is a low-scoring game, Andy. Probably decided by a field goal in the end.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I totally agree. I’m going with you here because if Daniels plays, I think they win. If he doesn’t, I think they lose. Next game, the Falcons, the Atlanta Falcons, who demolished… minnesota in the trenches okay and i mean demolish them on both sides of the line they’re favored by five and a half going in against the low lowly panthers here’s my question after dominating minnesota in the trenches that was something to see are the falcons becoming a sleeper contender um no okay okay yeah and i’m not sold on them yet what a pummeling i’m not i mean
SPEAKER 16 :
Just to me, Pennix, I haven’t seen enough yet, even in that game against, and I’m with you, they did dominate, and they played really well there. I just haven’t seen enough. Now, saying that divisional game, Panthers, actually, you know what, Andy, I’m going to go with the Panthers at home here, only because I like what Bryce Young has been doing, and I think he’ll continue upwards, and I think Pennix is due for a little bit of a Well, not coming back to reality, but a little bit of a regression. So that’s my only reasoning.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, well, I agree. Bryce has looked really good, and I also agree. Penix is not ready to make his team a contender. But I’m going to take the Falcons because, boy, they look tough. And I’ll just give them that. Next game, the Texans are favored by one and a half points against the Jaguars in Jacksonville. Richard, does any NFL coach get less out of his team’s talent than Houston’s D’Amico Ryans? I mean, this guy started off great. Now he’s been awful. If he loses this game, how thin is the ice beneath him?
SPEAKER 16 :
I feel like it should be pretty thin, Andy, considering how he started and they sort of gave him a pass last year. But I think they’ll give him the whole season. And, man, you want to talk about it. He was a finalist here for the Broncos, and we ultimately took Sean Payton. And we’ll see, obviously, how that plays out the rest of the season.
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Well, it’s looking good.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it does. CJ Stratton needs to get on track, Andy. I mean, I know we kind of gave him a pass for his sophomore year. You know, defenses have more tape on you, all those sorts of things. I agree. They got to get it figured out. And the Jaguars, we’ll see with, I think, Liam Cohen, right? You know, the new head coach there. Trevor Lawrence looking pretty good. I mean, he’s kind of about an average quarterback right now, but… They actually have some talent down there in Jacksonville, Andy. So I’m going to go with Jax here, Andy, just because I don’t trust the Texans. And, man, if they fall to an 0-3 hole, that’s going to be tough to dig out of.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I’m with you. I’m going with Jacksonville as well. I like their quarterback. I just think he’s on a pretty bad team. But I think the Texans are a mess. I really do. So we’ll both take Jacksonville. Next game, your game. And this is the other game of the week. The Broncos are on the road at the Chargers. Chargers favored by two and a half. So basically, it’s an even game. They get the home advantage. Are the Chargers for real? Can Denver’s defense shut down Herbert?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think the Chargers are your prototypical Jim Harbaugh team, Andy, which is just solid, just a gritty team. I think that Herbert is obviously the best quarterback that Harbaugh’s ever had outside of Andrew Luck at Stanford. And so the question is, does he continue to unleash him or does he start to pull back the reins a little bit? I think it’s going to be a hard-fought game, Andy. I’m going to take the Chargers at home here. And partially because if I’m wrong, then it’s still a good thing. Kind of my logic for the Chiefs last week, Andy, where if I pick the Chargers and this doesn’t come to fruition, I won’t be too upset because my Broncos will win. I just am not sold yet, Andy. I think Sean Payton… Until he commits to the run game more, I think we’re going to struggle. And Bo is the type of quarterback where he does need a strong running game, at least at this point in his career. He still needs that help and that influence, especially for play action and some of the other things. So I’m going to go with the Chargers at home, Andy. I do think it’s close, but the Chargers, man, a rare first three games of the season, all in division. I think they’re going to start 3-0 in the division, which gives a massive, massive leg up on not only the division, but the rest of the AFC.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I agree. I’m going to take the Chargers narrowly, but let me just give you my opinion. I think this is one of the best coached games of the week. I really do. I like both coaches a lot. I like what Peyton’s doing. I think you guys have been a little snake bit. I think you had a terrible call against you last week. I like what Sean Peyton’s doing. I think you’re just going to get better and better. But I’ll take the Chargers next game. The Saints are on the road against the Seahawks. Seahawks, who are a bad team, are actually favored by 7.5. Anyone who thinks the salary cap means nothing needs to look at the Saints over the past couple years.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, well, that’s a whole different conversation. But you are correct. You’re seeing what happened to Deshaun Payton and some of his cap management with the GM that I’m not sure if Mickey Loomis knew what he was doing or maybe he did. But, yeah, and then the Seahawks, I think, are a well-run team. I think they’re a well-coached team. Again, the Saints are just – and that team that’s in the – in the conversation for the first overall pick already, Andy. So I’m going to go with the Seahawks at home. I don’t think it’s much of a pick. I don’t even think that the Seahawks are that much better than the Saints. I just think this, or sorry, are a much better team. I just think the Saints are so bad, Andy. I just don’t see how the Seahawks lose, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, in that case, I got to ask you, okay, if the Saints get the number one pick, you know where I’m going with this. They picked Archie Manning back in the day. Could they pick Arch Manning?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t think, well, and Andy, the way Arch is going at this point in time, he’s being booed by Texas. So I don’t think that there’s anything, you know, for him to do at that point in time. And 1,000% honesty, I truly, I think he stays, and that’s what his grandpa has said. So, yeah, honestly, if the Saints get the first overall pick, Andy, who knows? Because they may be in the same boat that they were in.
SPEAKER 11 :
You make a very good point. Okay, next game, the Cowboys are favored by one and a half at the Bears. All I’m going to say is this. This is two teams we can’t trust in a game we can’t predict. So good luck.
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Yeah, and the window that it shouldn’t be with the number one broadcasting crew and a whole different conversation of Tom Brady being all sorts of things, Andy. I actually like the Bears, Andy, only because they’re at home, and I think Caleb Williams has made some progress with Ben Johnson. I think this is the week he puts it together. I think it’s a high-scoring affair. I think it’s like a 31-28 type of a game, and I’ll go with Chicago at home.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I’m going to take the home team, too. I’ll go with the Bears. Next game, we’ve got the Cardinals are at the 49ers. 49ers are favored by 2.5. Both of these teams are undefeated, but they haven’t played anybody.
SPEAKER 16 :
They haven’t, Andy, and you’ve got a Mac Jones game again.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s true. That’s a good point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Brock Purdy’s out for another week, and Mac Jones actually played pretty well last week. I’m with you, Andy. Neither of these teams have played anyone of substance or anyone at all. So first divisional game for both of them. I believe the Niners are at home here, Andy. I think that gives them the edge. I’m not sold on the Cardinals, especially being 2-0. I like the Niners. Man, that team just has some bad injury luck or maybe some bad training staff. So I’m going to go with the Niners here, Andy. At home, Mac Jones gets his second win for Kyle Shanahan.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I’m not a believer in either team, honestly. I’ll take the Niners as well. Oh, boy, the next game, the Chiefs, they look awful. They’re still favored by 6.5 on the road at the Giants. But is this really a sure thing with how tough the Giants have played and how bad that Chiefs offense looks?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, Andy, I’m going to do my same logic that I did for the Broncos and that I did for the Chiefs last week against. And that is going to be that I hope that this is the opposite of this. I just don’t think the Giants are very good, Andy. And I think that the Chiefs are bound at some point in time to figure it out. I just can’t see the Chiefs going 0-3. Like, I mean, I didn’t think they would go 0-2 last week, to be honest with you. But I have a really hard time thinking they go 0-3. They just have too much pride, too much at stake on the road. I think they’re going to try to put on a show for the national audience. We’ll see if they do, but I’m going to take the Chiefs here, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I agree, although I’m going to say, Richard, I think the Chiefs are done as a contender, and I want to ask you personally, how many more losses before you stop caring about them as, you know… a team you want to hate?
SPEAKER 16 :
Andy, for that witch that is Patrick Mahomes, it’s never too many. The only time I will stop worrying is when they are officially eliminated from the playoffs, and I don’t think that’s going to happen, so I will always be worried. Because, Andy, they could start out 0-5. and who knows, rip off 11 or 12 straight wins, and then they’re right there in the thick of it, and then, man, what a disaster that would be. So never give in, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Never give in. Okay, one last game, and this is going to be a fun one. The Lions, Detroit Lions, are on the road at the Baltimore Ravens. Ravens are favored by 4.5, but here’s the question. Does the first defense to get a stop win the game?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, Andy, you’ve got some two really good offenses. Although, we’ll see, Andy, because the Lions are playing a really good defense in the Ravens. But we’ll see, Andy, does Derrick Henry come back from some fumble issues that he’s starting to have, which is intriguing. But I’m going to go with the – you know, actually, Andy, I was going to take the Ravens here. I’m going to take the Lions in the upset just because I don’t like the Ravens. There’s literally no other reason other than that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you think Derek is – I’m going to take – I’ll take the Ravens just to split with you, but I also – I kind of think – I don’t know. I think both teams are just going to keep scoring. They might still be scoring when the game is over, okay? But do you think Derek’s starting to show his age with these fumbles?
SPEAKER 16 :
I hope not, Andy, because usually you see loss of speed and other stuff, and based on week one and week two, I haven’t seen that. But I guess getting sloppy with the football could be that way. I hope it’s not the case, but we’ll see.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. You take the Lions. I’ll take the Ravens. We’ll see how it goes. John, we’re done.
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SPEAKER 14 :
And we are back, and let’s get into some football movies. Andy, take it away.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. You know what, Richard? I’m going to steal your thunder because I’m doing this to honor you. I’m going to start off with Remember the Titans.
SPEAKER 19 :
What happened to you? Man, I just gave your mom a piggyback ride and she weighs twice as much as I do.
SPEAKER 17 :
What’s going on? We wanted to let you know we’re going to warm up a little different tonight.
SPEAKER 10 :
We are the Titans. Mighty, mighty Titans.
SPEAKER 19 :
Listen, baby. Ain’t no mountain high, ain’t no valley low.
SPEAKER 17 :
We’re going to let these people know who’s going to win state, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Right. Right.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
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Greek mythology, the Titans were greater even than the gods. We’re going to change the way we run. They ruled their universe with absolute power. We’re going to change the way we block. For that football field out there tonight, that’s our universe. We’re going to change the way we win. We don’t let anything, nothing, come between us. We are changed.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, let me tell you something. If you got football and you got Denzel Washington, you got me in the audience. What do you think, Richard?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely, Andy. And you did steal my movie. I’m not going to let you off the hook there. I did it to honor you, though. I had planned for a different movie because of my kids. It’s actually the movie we’re going to be watching. The movie I’m going to start with is the movie we’re going to be watching tonight. But it is literally my favorite movie, Andy. Remember the Titans is. It’s just so good. It teaches so many good things. Yes, the story is embellished for the movies and all of that stuff. But at the end of the day, it’s still fantastic. I don’t care.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I don’t care. You know, there are these people who come out and they freak out that, well, this wasn’t accurate. Who cares? You’re making a movie. Entertain me and give me a good story. That’s what I want. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, absolutely, Andy. That’s where I’m at with it, and no offense. Very rarely, that’s why they’re movies, Andy, right? Very rarely is there a situation in which a movie is… Real life is better than a movie, right? That’s why we say, oh, that should be a movie. But you still have to sort of add some different things in there. Yeah, otherwise it’s boring. Yeah, it’s boring.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, how much, Richard, how much of real life is as entertaining as a movie?
SPEAKER 14 :
None.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, if it were, then why would you spend all this money on tickets and popcorn to go see a movie? You’d just watch real life.
SPEAKER 14 :
You’d just watch me take over the world. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
In the apocalypse. Yeah, in the first hour, we were talking about your dad becoming a warlord in the apocalypse. What do you think?
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, I don’t quite think that’s his deal, but we’ll see, you know? Well, he’s a prepper. I’m prepping.
SPEAKER 11 :
There you go. Okay, Richard, you’re up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Fair enough, Andy. All right, so the movie that I was mentioning that I am going to be watching tonight, actually, with the kiddos and the family tonight, and this is one of my favorite movies growing up, and it is absolutely a football movie, kid movie. It is Little Giants, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, that’s cute. I like Little Giants.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is really a good movie. All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, getting back to, you know, because… When we have a post-apocalypse and the world goes into it. Richard, I want you to tell me, which of your kids do you think is most likely to be a warlord?
SPEAKER 14 :
His oldest.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which of my kids?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
His oldest. Either my oldest or my youngest.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ah, they’re going to have a territory. Will they start just with the city block or branch out real quick?
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, it will – I don’t know, Andy. That’s a good question. They would probably branch out pretty quickly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I think so too. Okay, John, you’re up. I watched this one not that long ago, draft day.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, with Costner. What did you think? Again, another movie where people get all upset because, oh, it’s not real. But you know what? It made for a good film, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Absolutely. All right, let’s do this. People got to chill out and enjoy the film. Exactly. Enjoy the movie. Exactly. All right, John and Cheyenne, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, guys. One comment from football. You can’t make 15 penalties and win a game.
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
And if either of you guys throw the… That’s how the Giants lost last week. 15 penalties.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, was it really 15?
SPEAKER 14 :
Wow, that’s a lot.
SPEAKER 11 :
My Packers had 10. We were pretty sloppy, but, you know.
SPEAKER 14 :
We had one at the end that killed us, so. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know, leveraging. We had one at the end. That’s the only one that counted.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, you know, I’ve totally – and, Richard, you can weigh in on this. I’ve heard that the Broncos have a real leveraging problem. Now, I’m worried going forward that this is going to cost them every game this year because they’re really into committing leverage penalties.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, Andy, they should because, well, they need to. What are they going to do to win at this point in time?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead, John. I think it’s going to be one of those seasons where – There’s no standout team until about week 10.
SPEAKER 14 :
I agree. Yeah, you’re probably right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So I’m going to go to the way, way back machine and a movie that starred our former president, and let’s go with Newt Rockne, All-American. Yep. It’s on my list. Which is a terrific movie. If you’ve never seen it, it’s worth a watch. The acting in that movie just, you know, the cast was so good that Even though it had Ronald Reagan, who wasn’t the premier actor, it did have some really good ones. But they show a few football movies. I won’t steal anymore. You guys have a good weekend.
SPEAKER 14 :
John, appreciate you. I thought it was a good movie. Yep. All yours, Andy.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s all mine? Okay, I got to go to another one that is just an easy one. Here we go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Visualize all those people that have been mean to you, and then I want you to attack.
SPEAKER 01 :
What matter with you, boy? You too stupid? No. No what?
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah!
SPEAKER 08 :
Now everyone will feel his pain.
SPEAKER 06 :
The amazing 31-year-old freshman set a new NCAA record by sacking the quarterback 16 times.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you are so sexy.
SPEAKER 06 :
The Waterboys’ influence now reaches far beyond college football.
SPEAKER 11 :
the water boy that’s funny oh adam sandler yeah a lot of people think it’s his best um it might be he’s got like three or four that are i still think the most the one that i can watch over and over the most is happy go yeah that’s just me though yeah i would agree what do you think richard yes it is andy it’s one of those things there’s always these you know social media these days it’s like you know pick a
SPEAKER 16 :
pick your team and you have to pick a team of a fictional football character. I would probably pick Bobby Boucher as my linebacker because he’s made lots of turnovers and he can make up for a lot of defensive deficiencies, Andy, because he was just a maniac.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and like Lawrence Taylor said after listening to Bobby Boucher, kids, don’t do crack. It was so great. Yes, you are correct. You’re up, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Speaking of Lawrence Taylor, he was in this film, and I did Little Giants first, and this is like the exact opposite of that, so watch this movie if you have children around. Or if you’re younger, which is The Program with Ed, oh, I forgot the guy. Whoever, he just died this past year, Dad, the guy that was in Las Vegas, the show with Josh Duhamel, whatever that guy’s name is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I’ll think. But anyway, James Caan.
SPEAKER 16 :
James Caan, sorry, not Ed. James Caan. The program is a really well-done movie about Division I football, everything that it brings, everything. There’s lots of cameos in it, lots of – and I guess Thornton Taylor, I don’t think he’s in that movie, but there’s another guy that’s in it. But it’s just one of those movies, Andy, that is –
SPEAKER 11 :
Halle Berry’s in it. Yeah, and Omar Epps. It’s intense.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s a very intense movie, but like I said, it’s probably, you want to talk about what more accurately reflects how Division I football, whether it’s legal or not, Andy, that’s probably pretty close.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would say so. But just so you know, because I’m a man’s man, I only care that Halle Berry was in it. For the record.
SPEAKER 14 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, that was a good movie. Very intense. John, you’re up.
SPEAKER 14 :
On any given Sunday.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Another intense movie. Now, is that Pacino? Yeah, Pacino.
SPEAKER 16 :
That was Pacino, and that was Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor was in that movie. I was really impressed.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s a good movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, let’s go to a Christian movie. How about that? No, let’s not. We’re going to. Too bad. Too bad. Richard and I are going to convert you by the end of the show. It’s about time you come around, Mr. Heathen. Got it. Okay, we’re going to go with American Underdog, the story of Kurt Warner starring Zach Levi. That’s a good movie. Hey, Kurt. We’ve been trying to reach you. I’m sorry, who are you? I’m with the Rams.
SPEAKER 14 :
This guy’s cool.
SPEAKER 08 :
Slow as molasses. He’s beneath the standards of this franchise. That’s what people said about me when I came here. All those years gave you something others didn’t have.
SPEAKER 07 :
Made you ready for this moment.
SPEAKER 11 :
Kurt Warner out of the Arena League. It’s one of those stories that’s too good for the movies. This guy here, he was bagging groceries five years ago.
SPEAKER 22 :
You go out there and you show the world what I’ve known all along.
SPEAKER 26 :
You were born for this. This is my time. I know who I am, and I know why I’m here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Did you enjoy that movie, Richard? I did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, I did, Andy. Again, it was well done, and that was Zachary Levi, right? Yeah. I like Zachary Levi. I like him. He’s a good conservative guy. I really enjoyed him as an actor, and he’s kind of fun. And they did a good job on that one. I agree. You’re up. All right. Again, another one that’s not like – actually, you guys still won’t take this, or you’ll take my other one. This is one of my favorite movies. Dad, I believe you did this movie last week, but it’s too good to not do. And that is, of course, Friday Night Lights.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, I did it last week. Classic. Great movie, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, I have one where… And it’s also TV, so you get to cheat. So there you go.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, I have one whereby it’s not necessarily a football movie, but football’s in it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it was one of my favorite movies years ago. I haven’t seen it for a long time, but Against All Odds. where he’s an ex-football player that is hired to be a, you know, basically a hired gun, if you would, security for a big gangster. And there’s football scenes in the movie because Jeff Bridges is actually in it, and he’s a famous football player, kind of washed up and all of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
I totally didn’t think of this.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s a good movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s good.
SPEAKER 14 :
There’s not too many where there’s just a little bit of football because most of them are football movies.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, exactly. And that’s really good to come up with one where it’s more of a sideline.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 11 :
I like that. Okay. Well, we’ve got to go with an obvious one. Let’s just get it over with because I’m sure everybody’s calling this out on the radio. Rudy.
SPEAKER 05 :
We’re going to go inside, we’re going to go outside, inside and outside. We’re going to get them on the run, boys. And once we get them on the run, we’re going to keep them on the run. And then we’re going to go, go, go, go, go, go. And we’re not going to stop until we get across that goal line. This is a team they say is good. Well, I think we’re better than them. They can’t lick us. What do you say, man?
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you think, Richard? Now, did you guys both not like Rudy? It’s okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s not my favorite. And partly because when you learn about Rudy, you talk about embellishing. None of that story is real. Zero.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, come on.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s what we’ve been talking about. No, none of it’s real.
SPEAKER 11 :
We’ve been talking about not caring about that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Now you guys are whining about this? No, because Andy, the only thing they got right in that movie was his name. None of the other stuff happened.
SPEAKER 11 :
They got his name really right, though. They repeated it over and over. I mean, if you’re going to get something totally right and then you repeat it over and over, that’s brilliant writing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Andy, make a movie about Notre Dame football in general, because you make a movie about Football Jesus, that would be better than taking some no-name, bottom-of-the-roster player that none of this garbage actually happened for and making some big production about it. Get out of here.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, but John already called in with Newt Rockne All-American. How many Notre Dame movies do you want? I think this was a good movie. I liked Rudy. I liked Rudy. And I think if Bilbo had known that Sam would become such a great football player, he would have given him more respect in Lord of the Rings.
SPEAKER 14 :
The movie included dramatic embellishments, it says.
SPEAKER 11 :
You guys. All this talk, people shouldn’t care about whether it’s real. That one’s awful. No, you’re freaking out. Okay. Richard, you are up.
SPEAKER 16 :
We should skip you.
SPEAKER 14 :
We should skip you.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, we should skip you for bringing that up in this thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
For mentioning Rudy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Andy, there’s not many things I get more fired up with than, again, honestly, I actually really liked that movie as a kid. Then I found out how much of an embellishment it was. I’m like, this is just the biggest bunch of you-know-what I’ve ever seen.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love doing this to you. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. No, you’re going to be impossible for your family to be around the entire rest of the day, all because I played that clip.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, you know what? Okay, I’m going to go to a movie that’s based on a true story that is actually close to being real, and it shows that you don’t have to take some terrible, lowly story as Rudy that basically didn’t happen, and you can actually take a good story, which is the story of Vince Papali in Invincible.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let me play the clip. Here we go.
SPEAKER 21 :
Shocking news from today’s tryout. The Eagles have decided to invite one man to training camp, Philly’s own Vince Papali.
SPEAKER 08 :
In 1976.
SPEAKER 19 :
To make this roster, you must throw away all fear.
SPEAKER 08 :
A 30-year-old bartender. Excuse me, my name is spelled wrong. Nothing personal. But is it really going to matter? Who played only one year of high school football. You ain’t going nowhere. Try to become the NFL’s most unlikely rookie. How am I supposed to learn all this? You can’t wear quarterback pads. You won’t last a week wearing those. That’s impersonal. Is it really gonna matter? Inspired by the incredible true story. To Vincent! Okay, in real life, Vince played for the Packers. But that’s okay. At least it was a green team. They came close. What do you think, Richard?
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, see, now you’re actually going to ruin it for me there, too.
SPEAKER 11 :
He didn’t play for the Eagles? No, he played for the Eagles. I’m messing with you. Don’t be doing that, Andy.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re really going to just totally wreck my night if you say Vince Papali didn’t play for the Eagles. I am trying to help here.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m trying to make it a better movie. The Birds. The birds. I don’t care.
SPEAKER 16 :
The birds. Whatever. But yes, it’s actually good. Mark Wahlberg does a good job. Oh, yeah. A cute little love story involved.
SPEAKER 14 :
Before we go to Dan, I have one where, okay, because Richard mentioned James Caan earlier. So he was in one very famous football movie. But when he was younger, he was in another famous football movie. Which one was it?
SPEAKER 11 :
James Caan. Uh-huh. Brian’s song.
SPEAKER 14 :
There you go. Good job, Andy. And it was so good. Ding, ding, ding. Winner, winner.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, that’s such a sad movie, though. That’s a hard watch.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a hard watch. You’re right. Well done, sir. You’re right. All right, let’s go to Dan, who is next. Dan, go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, you just took the one I was going to mention, but that’s okay. I had another one.
SPEAKER 14 :
John, how could you?
SPEAKER 12 :
Sorry. Oh, that’s okay. I mean, you seem to be attacking Richard. You’ve got a lot of control over him. Hey, Richard, you need to stop being controlled by these old fogies.
SPEAKER 15 :
Especially this guy.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s Andy. I’m past my prime. I’m bitter. I’m taking it out on him.
SPEAKER 12 :
Anyways, another one I have, I don’t know if you guys have mentioned it, The Longest Yard.
SPEAKER 14 :
We have not.
SPEAKER 12 :
Such a classic. Remember that one? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Dan, which one did you like better?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, which one?
SPEAKER 12 :
What do you mean, which one?
SPEAKER 14 :
There was the original and a remake.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the original with Burt Reynolds or the remake with Adam Sandler.
SPEAKER 12 :
I only watched the original one, so I didn’t know there was a remake of that. And actually, they’re both very good. I think the first one was kind of crude, wasn’t it? The first one? I mean, it had a lot of language in it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah. Burt Reynolds. And Lurch.
SPEAKER 12 :
The guy clotheslining him.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
In that scene, it’s like, oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 11 :
And by the way, I must mention all-time great Green Bay linebacker Ray Nitschke. Who is he? Oh, gosh. That hurts. I’m going to go have a good cry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good. I got you. You got him.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good job, Dan. All right. We’ve got to run to break. Dan, thank you, by the way. Appreciate it very much. We’ll run to break. We’ll be right back. Listen up. Golden Eagle Financial is next.
SPEAKER 26 :
TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I’ve been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts. But what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
SPEAKER 22 :
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SPEAKER 26 :
What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven’t made that next step?
SPEAKER 22 :
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SPEAKER 26 :
And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
SPEAKER 22 :
You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I’m not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
SPEAKER 26 :
And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
SPEAKER 26 :
You bet.
SPEAKER 14 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. We are back, and my wife texted me and said she actually knew Vince Papali. So there you go, Andy. Okay, well. She said he was actually a really nice guy. Well, that’s very cool. So there you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we’ve got to go to not another teen movie. Reggie Ray, the coach, kept putting him in there even though he had concussions. Here we go.
SPEAKER 18 :
Doesn’t look good, coach. Can he play? He’s in a coma. Answer my question. Can he play? I don’t even think he can breathe. We got to get him to a hospital immediately. You listen to me right now. I don’t care what you have to do. Reggie Ray stays in the game.
SPEAKER 11 :
what movie was that i can’t remember i said not another teen movie oh not another teen movie yeah they were right that’s right they were making fun of varsity blues okay when they did that and he’s he’s in a coma can he play hilarious richard what he did you see not another teen movie richard
SPEAKER 16 :
I don’t think I ever did, Andy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, it’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s totally wrong. Not for the kids. But it is so funny. Not for the kids.
SPEAKER 14 :
It makes fun of every teen movie out there. It’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 11 :
It does. You’re up, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I was actually going to do Varsity Blues, but we’ll save it, whatever it is. One, I don’t know if we’ve done, and it’s actually the story of Ernie Davis and it’s The Express. And it’s actually really well done. They did a good job on it. It didn’t get great reviews, but I thought it was a pretty good movie. And then it sort of, you know, I never knew his story. And then obviously, I mean, you want to talk about a string of running backs, Andy. I mean, you had Jim Brown go through Syracuse, then you had Ernie Davis, and then you had Floyd Little. I mean, just. one after the other after the other, and obviously Floyd ended up playing for the Broncos.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER 11 :
John?
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m going back in time, an old one, North Dallas 40.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, total classic, total classic. I’m going to go back to Varsity Blues since I mentioned it anyway. No, that’s a good one. Go ahead, Richard, you’re up.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, Andy, I don’t think we did this one good. Oh, yeah, the Christian movie was the Kurt Warner one. This one is definitely on the cheesy category of Christian movies and not the best acting, whatever it is. But there’s one scene where he makes the kid bear crawl the entire length of the field, but he doesn’t realize it, facing the Giants. I thought that was, again, cheesy. Definitely you’re going to hear that on Sunday School, but it was pretty well done.
SPEAKER 11 :
I like cheesy. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. How about the replacements?
SPEAKER 11 :
I’ve actually got a clip, but we don’t have time. I enjoyed that one. Okay, let’s go with The Rock, Gridiron Gang. That was good.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Richard, you’re up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, terrible again. Sad movie. Again, I think this one is based on a true story, too, if I’m not mistaken. Radio.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh. I like radio. I also have a clip for that, but we don’t have time. It’s a good one. Cuba Gooding Jr. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 14 :
I want to mention when somebody just texted in, all the right moves.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that was on my list, by the way, so I’ll use that.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s Mr. Cruz.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good job.
SPEAKER 11 :
Was in that. Okay, last Boy Scout. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 14 :
We are Marshall. Matthew McConaughey.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, that was going to be my next one. It’s going to be my next one.
SPEAKER 14 :
We are Marshall. Yep. When the game stands tall.
SPEAKER 11 :
That one I don’t know. How about Two for the Money with Matthew McConaughey? Since you just did We Are Marshall. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go. You’re not going to like this, Andy, because it’s a TV show, but we haven’t done it. It was actually on FX, and it was about fantasy football. It was called The League.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don’t know that one.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it was actually pretty entertaining for those of you who do play fantasy football. It has basically all of the same stuff you do, just amplified. And, yes, it is a TV show, Andy, but it still counts.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good job. Texter said Heaven Can Wait. I don’t know that movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Is that a football movie? Oh, yeah. It’s a classic. It’s very good. I’ve got to go Jerry Maguire. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, Andy. Show me the money.
SPEAKER 14 :
Show me the money.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, it counts, but it’s more of a rom-com love story, but whatever. It is. It’s sappy.
SPEAKER 14 :
You’ve got to hurry up. We’ve got to go to break, so you’ve got to roll.
SPEAKER 16 :
Go, Richard. George Clooney, Leatherheads.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah, that’s a good one. Agreed. And then I’ll go one last one, Necessary Roughness. which wasn’t a great movie, but anyways. No, but it’s funny. It’s funny. All right, we’ll be right back. Don’t go anywhere, Richard. I’m going to let you go so you can roll, and we will keep going. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Make sure you get your roof all dialed in. Dave can help you with that, including extending the life of your roof. 303-710-6916.
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We don’t yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 14 :
And we are back. Dave, we’ve got about 20 seconds. Go for it, sir.
SPEAKER 13 :
Johnny B. Goode, 1988, Rotten Tomatoes gave it zero.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 13 :
Starring Anthony Michael Hall, Robert Downey Jr., and Uma Thurman.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely awful. I agree. Good one, Dave. Thank you very much. All right, Andy, rattle us off two or three more.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, we’re going to go with the blind side, school ties, Jim Thorpe, All-American, Lucas, and trouble along the way with John Wayne. Go.
SPEAKER 14 :
Undefeated, my All-American, 23 blast.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I’m going to go with 12 Mighty Orphans, Pet Detective Head Football, Safety, Air Bud, Golden Retriever. That was also awful. And All the Right Moves. You already said it. Second string with Jon Voight.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, that’s it, guys, for tonight. I’ll be back first thing in the morning at 9 o’clock for Fix It Radio. Tune in then, followed up by Drive Radio. Have a great weekend. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy
