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The conversation takes a deeper turn as John and Andy scrutinize the results of Colorado’s recent political primaries. The duo analyzes the state party’s endorsements and the outcomes of various contested races, providing insights into which strategies succeeded and which fell flat. With a focus on data and real numbers from historical reports, they make a compelling case for re-evaluating political tactics and understanding the growing importance of unaffiliated voters. This episode is rich in real political analysis, countering assumptions with facts and unveiling the intriguing patterns of the political tide.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, of course, with us as well. All right, question of the day, which we put off because we had George Goodman with us. Yesterday, which U.S. president dedicated the Vietnam Memorial? That would have been Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan. Today, this came from Jersey Joe. When squeezing and stretching an 11-pound lithium ignit into a 6-inch wide full roll used in making lithium ion batteries, how many feet of that foil does one 11-pound ignit make? I’m never saying that right.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have no idea what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 05 :
Ingott. Ingott? Ingott. I’m never saying that the right way, but how long? I don’t know. That’s the question of the day. I would never guess this. Anyways, answer that on the Facebook page or social media page and do that there if you would. Okay, I’ve got a rebuttal. And I hate doing this on Facebook because you just end up with this firestorm of Morons. Can I say morons? Yeah, morons that you have to discuss things with. So I kind of just said, you know what, I’ll just talk about it today. I did email Andy some of this earlier. And so rather than try to battle this out on Facebook, I thought, hey, I’ve got a radio show. We’ll just do this on Facebook. And there’s a lot of folks out there that actually look at some of these things on Facebook and then comment and may read the same things I read. And this will get back to the messenger without any problem. But somebody put out a post today talking about how great… dave williams is doing because our voter registration for republicans is higher than that of democrats and so i read this particular in colorado in colorado and this particular meme shows that total registered voters are 3.880669 by the way that number is incorrect democrats are a million 8 847 again that one’s wrong i’ll give you the real numbers in a moment Republicans are 1,030,503, therefore giving Republicans a lead over Democrats. Third party is 383,183, and unaffiliated is 1,458,196. By the way, all of those numbers way off of what actual numbers are. Oh, yeah. Way off. Where did he get those? I don’t know. And what’s really off is—and so what I did, I’ve got two different— stats here. I’m going to give you just what the current, the way the Secretary of State puts it, is current registered voters. They’ve got a listing for non-current or basically non-participating. In other words, maybe they didn’t vote in the last election, don’t know what the situation is, but they columnize it three different ways. So I’m going to give you the what I consider to be current voting members and then total. So you’ll get to see both, okay? Okay. So current voters, Democrat in Colorado, is 1,050,951, with a total Democrat voter registration of 1,172,032. Those are numbers from, by the way, October reportings from the Secretary of State’s website here in Colorado.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so total, they’re a little under 1.2 million.
SPEAKER 05 :
A little bit under 1.2. Republican voters, the number that I feel counts because these are people that are active, 943,201, and a total for Republicans of 1,051,528. Okay. Okay? Now, that number is actually a little bit higher than what this particular meme said. If you look at the 1,035,003, but their Democrat voting is, like, way off. That number I couldn’t even come up with. I don’t know how they got it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and if you want way off, look at their unaffiliated votes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, unaffiliated, they’re claiming there’s 1,458,000. Current active affiliated is 1,999,817. So 2 million. With a total count of 2,293,642. Right, so almost 2.3 million. Unaffiliated.
SPEAKER 10 :
Unaffiliated. Didn’t I tell you several times over the last year, unaffiliateds are approaching 50% of Colorado.
SPEAKER 05 :
According to these numbers, they’re over that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, again, I don’t know where the data for this particular, you know, meme or image that got posted on Facebook today came from with the line that, you know, look how well Dave Williams is doing in the state of Colorado. We are now the second largest voting group. These are exact words. We are now the second largest voting group in Colorado. No, folks. We’re still third. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, first of all, we’re a third and a rather distant third, first of all.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
Secondly, how would Dave Williams have been the one to lift our numbers?
SPEAKER 05 :
Because of his policies, more Republicans registered.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yes, yes, yes. And thirdly, how come these people never factor in the fact that Republican registration is way up nationwide? I mean, dramatically up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Meaning it doesn’t matter whether you’re in Colorado or not.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, do you realize, what was it in North Carolina and Pennsylvania? We had closed the gap by like 60%, 70%. I mean, it was crazy. Republican registration is way up everywhere.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just in general is what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, nationwide. This is called, folks, a red wave year. Now, in 2022, we had a blue wave year. In 2020 and 2018, we had blue wave years. This year was a red wave year, okay? The question is, how much of the red wave, which thundered across America, how much of that actually hit Colorado? And the answer is very little. we got a much lower percent of what you would think a red wave would do here in Colorado than you got in a lot of other states.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
We did poorly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
We did poorly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fully agree. Okay, you’ve got some other stats that are going to support that in a moment as well. We’ll take Bob before we go to break. Go ahead, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, John, what do you suppose is – what’s the hang-up on Gabe Evans and – He won.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he’s the winner.
SPEAKER 04 :
What?
SPEAKER 05 :
He’s the winner. Yeah, he won by 0.8%. I talked about that yesterday.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, okay, because I’m looking at it now, and I’m thinking, I could have counted these things on my kitchen table faster.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s a whole other conversation. Why did it take so long? I have no idea, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
No clue. You know, it’s not that complicated. It’s right down the center of Colorado. It’s not like they’re – I just don’t understand why it – It took so long, and it shifted back and forth.
SPEAKER 05 :
I wish I had a better answer for you. I don’t.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, again, I think I could have countered them on my kitchen table faster than I did.
SPEAKER 10 :
You should have done that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I could have.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I’m not so sure you wouldn’t have been. Well, we all would have been faster, Bob. I don’t know. I don’t know why some of these, you know, like Nevada and Arizona, why does it take them so long to get their count in? I don’t have an answer to that. I wish I did.
SPEAKER 04 :
They got three electoral votes up there, and they have to apportion them in some weird, popular way. I don’t know what they do up there, but it’s ridiculous.
SPEAKER 05 :
Alaska’s ranked choice. That’s why it takes longer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and then you’ve got Nebraska, where there’s one electoral vote for the city of Omaha only. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Anyways, no, thank you, Bob, really quick. Okay, before we go to break, one other thing I want to look at. Yeah, go ahead. Because I didn’t do this earlier. You won’t be shocked at this.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I will not.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, again, in response to the post that I was talking about where Dave did a great job of having more Republicans registered under his watch than anyone else. So I went back and looked at the January data. So Secretary of State, because it’s the farthest back I can go without really doing some digging. So the data from January. Let me get that particular spreadsheet up, Andy. So the data from January shows active Republican registered voters. 907-283. Okay? Remember that number. That was from a reporting of 2-1. Okay? So February 1st. It is now 938,863. Tell me how much real difference there is there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not a lot.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not much.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, John, that easily is accounted for simply by the boost in Republican registration nationwide. We’re in a red wave that’s pushing up registration for Republicans everywhere.
SPEAKER 05 :
Point being, folks, it didn’t change much is my point.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, it really angers me, though, people who don’t understand the difference between blue wave and red wave and how that should affect an electorate. It’s incredible how they don’t understand that. I agree. After the break, we have to take a look at, and I’ve got the numbers, okay? And don’t worry, folks, I’m not going to reel off a bunch of million numbers and make it boring. I’ll keep it simple. But the numbers show. that in the primary, you know, the state GOP endorsed 18 different candidates. The numbers are going to show they did a horrible job. And the greatest thing in the world that happened in this last primary was that the open primary… And no, I don’t like open primaries. But the open primary rescued us from the stupidity of our state GOP.
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God, country, reason. Now back to John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Graham. All right, Andy, you’ve got some stats for us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my goodness, do I ever. Okay, as we know, the state party endorsed in 18 contested primaries across the state. They lost 14 of them, almost all of them by big margins, okay? They got creamed. But let’s take a look at some of the results of who we chose and who the state party chose. Sound good? Sounds good.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Before you get started. Yeah, go ahead. Make sure that you send me this. I’ll put it in our show notes so producer and can put this up.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve got it at home. I’ll send it to you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Perfect. So send it to me so we can get it all handled that way. Others can, if they’re driving right now or whatever, and they want to see this firsthand, they can that way.
SPEAKER 10 :
You bet. Okay. Let’s start in CD3. The state party endorsed Ron Hanks in CD3. This was Lauren Boebert’s old district. We both knew Lauren was going to lose if she had stayed in this district. Now… Jeff Hurd instead won the – he beat Ron Hanks, and he beat him by the primary margin by 13%. Jeff Hurd beat Ron Hanks by – it’s actually like 13.5%, okay? Now, really quick here, in 2022 – The margin of victory for Lauren Boebert in CD3 was 0.2%. So she barely won.
SPEAKER 05 :
She barely won. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, secondly, Jeff Hurd this year won it by 4.1%. Pretty big difference. That’s going from 0.2%. You just jumped plus 3.9% by going to Jeff Hurd from Lauren Boebert. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Ron Hanks, guaranteed, 100%, not only would he have lost, Ron Hanks would have lost that district huge.
SPEAKER 05 :
And really quick, I have to remind everybody that how far ahead in the house right now are we? A couple seats. Not much, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah. If we had done what the state party wanted this year, folks, we might have lost the House for Donald Trump. Nationally, right. Okay, I guarantee you we would have lost two of the seats that we won. That’s a great point. We might well have lost a third, and I’ll explain why. Okay, first, Ron Hanks would have lost that seat. There’s no way.
SPEAKER 05 :
So CD3 would have been a write-off to the Democrats. Oh, yeah, yeah. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 10 :
Adam Frisch would have won that one by, I believe, a minimum of 8 to 10 points.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. By the way, I don’t disagree with you at all on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, next one. CD4, Lauren Boebert. The state party said, we’ve got to go with Lauren Boebert. Okay. And yes, she won. She was a shoo-in. She won the primary by 30%. But you and I said what? She’s a terrible candidate. I had Lauren Boebert as my third worst candidate.
SPEAKER 05 :
in the state last year. Which, by the way, she did to herself. She did to herself. There’s no other reason other than she did that to herself.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t dislike Lauren Boebert, but I’m going to prove this in a moment.
SPEAKER 05 :
We’re just talking about the marketability of her.
SPEAKER 10 :
Totally. That’s all we’re talking about.
SPEAKER 05 :
This isn’t a personal vendetta or anything along those lines.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no. She has my vote.
SPEAKER 05 :
We’re strictly talking about, folks, how do we win elections? That’s what this conversation is about. Not a personal vendetta against anyone, just strategy and how do you win.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. So in CD4, the state party got its way and they got the candidate they wanted. Right. Okay. In 2022, all right, we won CD4 by 24.3%. With not a great candidate, by the way. Right. With not a great candidate. And by the way, that was a blue. That was Ken Buck’s district. That was Ken Buck’s. That was a blue wave year. And in a blue wave year, 2022, we won that by over 24%. This time, in a red wave year, Lauren Boebert won it by under 12%. She lost, get ready, 12.5 points. We lost 12.5 points going to Lauren Boebert, going to the state party’s endorsed candidate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Okay, next one, CD5.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, CD5, Dave Williams. They wanted Dave Williams. We chose Jeff Crank. He won by 30 points in the primary. In 2022, we won that by 15.7. This year, no, 15. For those who don’t know, CD5 is moving blue. Correct. Okay, people are moving in there.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you’ve got to remember, too, just before we give you the final number, remember that Jeff won in spite of Dave and the attack ads and everything else that were going on about Jeff Crank. So keep in mind, that district had a bad taste in its mouth for Jeff Crank going into the final election. Oh, yeah. Don’t forget that part.
SPEAKER 10 :
The state party had been campaigning against Jeff Crank for many, many weeks.
SPEAKER 05 :
Same was true with Jeff Hurd, by the way.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, Jeff Hurd as well. Okay. What happened? Well, in 2024, Jeff Crank won by just over 14 percent. OK, so he lost or just under 14 percent.
SPEAKER 05 :
Previously, we’d won by 15.7. Right. That was Lambert, Doug Lamborn’s. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
So in this red wave year, he still lost. He still lost one point eight percent from 2022 margins.
SPEAKER 05 :
And here’s what would be interesting to know, because I don’t know the answer, neither does Andy. What would that have looked like had the GOP chair and his cronies campaigned against Crank in the first place? Had they not? Had they not, what would this look like?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it looked a lot better. I guarantee you a lot of people in that district would not vote for Dave Crank because they were Dave Williams’ loyalists.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. Meaning that he may not have done any worse than Lamborn, is our point.
SPEAKER 10 :
One of the people I’m sure who didn’t vote for Crank was Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. He did some third-party thing or something. Who knows?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Dave Williams dramatically hurt Crank’s numbers. Crank still won by 14% now. And we can, after the break, take a look at… We’re going.
SPEAKER 05 :
Keep going.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really quick here, but do I believe Dave Williams would have lost that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Absolutely, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
And even though… And I know that sounds impossible because we won it by 14%. Let me give you some quick reasons. First of all… Understand that Lauren Boebert lost us 12.5% in CD4. So right there, Dave Williams, in my opinion, is the second worst candidate in the state. The worst is Ron Hanks. Okay, nobody can touch Ron Hanks for the worst in the state.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, but Dave Williams, okay, take a look at North Carolina. Trump won North Carolina by 3.4%, but Mark Robinson, who was running for governor, had some offensive comments he had made. Mark Robinson lost the governor’s race by 14.6%. That’s a difference of 18 points. from trump okay so that’s a drop off of 18 points from trump in the same state with all the same voters same voters right okay well you drop 18 points from uh jeff crank you lose by four next dave lost by 30 in in the primary and the number one voting block in that primary was what unaffiliated voters which means they hated dave williams right OK, so do you think unaffiliated voters would have turned against Dave Williams in the general? Absolutely. One last thing. Dave Williams said God hates flags, amongst other highly offensive things. He was a goldmine for Democrat ads that would have run nonstop against him.
SPEAKER 05 :
He would have lost big time.
SPEAKER 10 :
He would have lost that. OK, moving on really quickly. CD8. CD8. Janik Joshi.
SPEAKER 05 :
We were just talking about a moment ago with Bob.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Colorado GOP, they endorsed Janet Joshi, who’s not as bad as Hanks, Boebert, and Williams, okay? But he’s not as good as Gabe Evans.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not even close.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, not even close. Gabe Evans destroyed him by 56%, largely on the heels of the Donald Trump endorsement. Okay. In 2022, we lost CD8 by 0.7%. It’s very close. In 2024… We won it by one. It’s actually 1.5% or 1.2%, OK? No, 0.8%. We won it by 0.8%, which means we increased by 1.5% in that swing district.
SPEAKER 05 :
We would have lost that with… I’m sorry, but Janik would have lost that big time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Guaranteed. Janik Joshi would have lost it. I don’t think he would have lost it by much, but he would have lost it by probably three to five points, but he would have lost it. Okay, there’s three house seats gone. Yep. All right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now… I just want you to move. I’m not going to go through all these. I just I can take a look at a bunch of them, but we don’t have time. OK, let me take a look at HD 12. OK, OK. That’s a case, again, where the state party got its way. Mark Milliman is the guy they wanted. OK, so we put in 43.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. HD 12. HD 12.
SPEAKER 10 :
We’ll get to 43. HD 12. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Got it. OK. OK. Well, let’s see. And he won the primary by 22 points. Okay. In 2022, we lost that district by 44%. Okay. Mark Milliman lost that by 54%. Okay. And this was a drop. Now, you went from a blue wave to a red wave year, and he still dropped almost 10 points. It was 9.6%. He lost by 9.6% worse in a red year than we did in a blue year. And that was the state party’s endorsed candidate. Okay, now jump down to HD43. They got their way in that one, too. They only got their way four times. Okay. Lauren Boebert, Mark Milliman, and the next one is an HD43, Matt Burcham. Now, Laura Thomas, she was very upset about this, of course, because she was running against Burcham. Laura Thomas is one of those who was a commissioner in Douglas County that brought tons of money there by shutting down all the COVID regulations. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve interviewed her many times. Yeah. Great lady.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Well, in 2022, we lost that district by 1%. In 2024, in a red year, we lost it by a touch more, 2.2%. So we lost 1.2% going from a blue wave year to a red wave year. And here’s the worst thing. Laura told me this. That’s an R plus eight district. We had a bad candidate in 2022, John. Wow. So twice we’ve done this. Right. So the state party, when they get their way, it’s awful. It’s bad. Real quick here. Board of Education District 4 up at number five there. You’ll see it on the thing. Christy Burton Brown. OK, she won that primary and the state party obviously endorsed her opponent because they hate her. And she then went on to win the general by 20 percent. Do you think the state party can claim credit for her winning? They opposed her in every conceivable way.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you look at Hurd, Boebert, Crank, and Evans, they can’t take maybe a little bit for Boebert, but she’s carrying that on her own without the state party whatsoever. They can’t take credit for any of those. No. Not a single one of those.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. Now, in a lot of these, you’ll see not much difference or very little, or it’s hard to gauge the difference because, like the Senate, the SD seats, SD2, SD10, okay, those are Senate districts. And here’s the problem. Since the last time they ran, a lot of them were basically redistricted. It was kind of hard to measure. So you really couldn’t tell with those numbers. Now, with the House numbers, you could really tell. And bottom line is this. When it mattered, when they got their way, they heard us. When they didn’t get their way, we swept three U.S. House seats and did well elsewhere, too. The Colorado GOP endorsements were a death knell. They were terrible.
SPEAKER 09 :
They were abysmal.
SPEAKER 10 :
okay, they almost cost us the U.S. House. So anybody who wants to give Dave Williams credit, all I can say is, I’m sorry, I’m going to just say it.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re a lunatic. You’re crazy. You’re a lunatic. You are crazy. You’re not looking at data.
SPEAKER 10 :
If we had done what this guy wanted, we would be in heap big trouble right now.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. Somebody just texted, too, and said, hey, these are fellow Republicans. How can we talk bad about fellow Republicans? Well, let me explain, because I’ve been doing this with Dave Williams specifically not long after he became Colorado GOP chair. And just so you all know, and any of you that have listened to me for any length of time should know this by now, but maybe you’re a new listener. I call it like it is. I don’t care if you have an R next to your name, an I next to your name, a D next to your name, a Marxist next to your name. I call it like it is. And my problem with Dave Williams from the get-go, and I saw this early on in his chairmanship, is he’s only in it for Dave. He is not in it for the party. He’ll tell you that he’s in it, that Trump’s the guy, and no matter what, he’s an R through and through. But his actions don’t say so. And my problem is when we have what I call This is what they call them, but Republicans in name only, which is what I call Dave Williams. He’ll call me a rhino, but really it’s the opposite. When you’re only a Republican in name only because you’re doing nothing but tearing your party down, not building it up, you’re not helping candidates get elected, you’re not helping our party move forward, which means you’re not helping our state move forward, which I’m a Colorado native, and I want this state to not come red again because it hasn’t been red for a very, very, very long time. That’s another saying I get sick of seeing. But the reality is I want to make headway in this state. And with current leadership, we can’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And to that end, number one, was everything I said true?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, that’s all just data.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s all true. That’s right. It’s just data.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Number two, without truth, if we don’t speak truth, how do we learn?
SPEAKER 05 :
We don’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, and number three, the last one. If we don’t learn, how do we improve and make our state redder?
SPEAKER 05 :
We don’t. If all you get are—and I’m being very honest here, especially this person that texted. If we’re not honest with one another and we don’t fix the problems that we have internally, how can we ever get better? This is the problem the country has with everybody gets a trophy. If you get a trophy no matter what, no matter what your performance was, no matter how bad you were out there on that particular match or meet or whatever it happened to be, how do you learn from that and grow and move forward? The answer is you don’t. No, you don’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, John, I have seen some people online who simply attack Dave. and hope and so forth reflexively. And I don’t do that. And I pick them apart. I do. I, you know, hope Sheppelman, by the way, is still never provided any evidence for the grand story she told, but, you know, setting that aside, whatever. I’m, it’s just funny. Okay. Um, I, I look at some of those people and I’m just like, okay, look, you’re just tearing into them to tear into them. This is not productive. But when you list out the facts and the facts say, look, these guys are dishonest. They’re corrupt. They do terrible things. They use their, they used the state party. to campaign against Republican candidates that had never been done before.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, these that we were talking about earlier, especially CD3, 5, and 8, those three specifically, they used campaign donations that went into the Colorado GOP for themselves. Big time to campaign against these individuals. And so when you ask me, why am I calling this out and why am I why am I against, you know, quote unquote Republicans? And believe me, I’m putting air quotes around Republicans because I don’t consider them to be nor do I consider them to be on my side. These are, in my opinion, the enemy because they’re doing nothing but tearing down the party, not building it up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. John Heard, Jeff Heard, Jeff Crank, Gabe Evans, Christy Burton Brown, Lisa Frisell. There are many more. Barb Kirkmeyer. These people had to first campaign for many weeks against their own state party.
SPEAKER 05 :
wasting a lot of their money before they ever got to campaign against the democrat correct meaning that if we’d have had more money and their coffers going in for example gabe evans look at all of the attack ads that the democrats ran against ran against him after the primary and by the way a lot of those attack ads were generated through some of the things they watched during the primary that came from our own colorado gop leadership they were quoting our leadership. Correct. So folks, when you ask me, why am I doing this? Well, I hope this becomes self-explanatory because it’s like, well, wait a minute. If you had a company And you had problems in the company. And all you do is kumbaya each other all day long and you never fix the problems in your company. How long does the company survive, Andy? You go out of business. You don’t stay in business. No, you don’t. You go broke. So the reality is I don’t want the Colorado GOP in Colorado to go broke. We literally sidestepped a huge boulder rolling down the mountain when it came to 131 and ranked choice voting. Let’s now use that to our advantage and fix this stuff.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. John, let me give you another.
SPEAKER 05 :
We dodged a bullet is what I was trying to say.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. Let me go back to an example of where they got their way. Lauren Boebert. I like Lauren. Okay. It’s nothing personal. But her episode that she had was so offensive, deeply offensive to so many people in the market. Guys, in a deep red district, in a red wave year, she won by less than 12%.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
This person also says— But that’s impossible.
SPEAKER 05 :
This person also says KBB never did a thing for this party, and don’t tell me that she did. Folks, I guess you haven’t listened to me very long. She was classy. I guess you’ve never listened to me very long, because even when KBB was chair, I called her out as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
You did.
SPEAKER 05 :
Like I said, folks, I’m very honest. I’ll call it like it is, and I did with her as well. Right, but did KBB… She didn’t work against us.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Did KBB ever endorse against Republican candidates, yes or no?
SPEAKER 05 :
Say that again?
SPEAKER 10 :
Did KBB ever endorse against… No, no, no, never, never. Okay, did she ever weaponize thousands and thousands of dollars attacking Republican candidates?
SPEAKER 05 :
Never.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so you can say, KBB, where’d she get us? Yeah, but folks, she didn’t attack us. OK, she didn’t do any of the negative. And by the way, one other thing. She was a classy lady. KBB was perfectly classy. OK, she didn’t embarrass us with God hates flags and things like that. OK, I mean, guys, this stuff’s important. And by the way, a huge ally of Dave. Dave Williams was the mayor, Jeff Toborg, the mayor of Deep Red Parker. Do you realize he just lost? We just lost the mayorship of Parker to an independent named Rivera, who used to be a Republican. He left. But, John. I mean, and this is Jeff Toborg is a big rhino watcher.
SPEAKER 05 :
So this is a new list, which, by the way, I appreciate the questions as to why am I so hard against Dave. So let me just real quick a synopsis. I can do this in about three minutes. So since you’re a new listener, I’ve talked about this in depth. And I started calling Dave out on air prior to probably anybody else in media did. Not because I don’t like him, but because I don’t like what he was doing there. I saw early on that, number one, he wasn’t leading very well. And what I mean by that is he became very selfish in his leadership and wasn’t doing much for the party in general. Then I started looking at some of the funds that were coming in, how he was handling his own salary, how he was handling some of the pay of some of the people that were around him. i did an entire one hour in-depth analysis of the budget that the gop colorado gop was spending back then and literally lined it all out you can go back onto our website and find those episodes and listen to them if you’d like but i lined it all out as to where the money was going and a lot of the questions that i had and i never got answers from the colorado gop along those lines i have invited by the way many many many times leadership of the colorado gop past and current to come on this program and either explain all of these things that are going on or come on on a regular basis to explain what’s going on in the party and what we need to do to move things forward. Then Dave throws his hat in the ring for CD5. I was already kind of against Dave. But at that point, when Dave decided to run for CD5 as the chair of the party, I was done. I was all out against Dave to get him removed as chair. Because when you start running as a leader in your own party for a position inside the party. Against fellow Republicans. You now have a conflict of interest and you should no longer be in a leadership position inside of the party. Period. Period.
SPEAKER 10 :
End of discussion. They were sending out mailers and newspapers with party money, literally attacking his opponent, who just won, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. And this person’s asking me, explain to me why the party hasn’t done anything since Owens. I’ve explained that many, many times as well. Lack of leadership. We are not raising up good, strong political leaders in the state of Colorado. We’ve not had that for quite some time. By the way, the one time we did have a really great leader in Colorado, in my opinion, we had a coup go against him from individuals that I know and I thought were friends at the time, but wanted to oust that chair at that time. So the reality is we have a lot of people inside of the Colorado GOP. I believe a very small minority of people with a very loud voice that want to control the party that are now. And it’s not going to go well. Agreed. It’s that simple. So whoever you are that are texting me, thank you, by the way. But that’s the explanation of. And the reality is we don’t have strong enough leadership and vision in Colorado to move our party forward. We have a small group of individuals right now that is running it their way. And they, too, lack direction, leadership and the right vision for what the party should be in Colorado to move it forward, given that we’re a blue state.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks so much for listening, and I appreciate it very much. I hope that last synopsis of just where we’re at as a party in Colorado. I do believe there’s things that we can still fix in Colorado to get back on track. I really would like to see Colorado get to the point to where we could at least ride just a tail end. of the red wave like we just had a moment ago. I get it. We can’t ride the full wave because we’re so deep blue. But if we don’t start making inroads along those lines, we already are just a few seats away from a supermajority in our state legislature. And if we’re not careful, the next time things roll around, we will be.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, one thing that really bothered me is, you know, we did pick up a couple seats, just barely. And the state party is touting that as their success. And it’s like, guys, you do realize 2022 blue wave, 2024 red wave. All right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Michael Letts joining us now. Michael, welcome. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 03 :
Doing great, John. You and Andy are doing a great job.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks for joining us. You are founder-president of InvestUSA. You guys provide vests to police forces across the country, which we appreciate very much. Talk about, though, the new boarders are Tom Homan.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tom’s a great fellow. I was in Mar-a-Lago with him just recently. We were discussing how to handle the particular upcoming… deportation of a, believe me, Tom is a cop’s cop. He’s going to do what he says. Make sure we deport within a priority situation. Our first priority is going to be to make sure we deport the drug cartel members, the terrorists, human sex traffickers, and the criminal element that have prior convictions from foreign countries. We know where a lot of them at. I think we know where all of them at, quite frankly, with intelligence services that The previous administration tried to say we didn’t know where they’re at. Well, that wasn’t true. We’re able to track them. We’re going after them. Now, here’s going to be the interesting part about it, gentlemen. I don’t think they’re going to want to go. I don’t think they’re going to particularly say, we’ve got our bags packed and we’ve been waiting on the air-conditioned ride. So we want to make sure that our agents have the necessary equipment, including the most advanced active shooter vest. Should we get into that situation, we’re prepared for it. But we’re going to start there, and I think that’s going to send a very clear message that we mean business, and we mean business very quickly. And if you want to avoid the confrontation, we might want to try to catch you a bus early and get out of here before we get hold of you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, Michael, how important is that equipment? Like, obviously, talking about your vests and the helmets and so forth, we have to keep in mind, these agents are going to be having to go door-to-door in apartment complexes run by gangs like TDA. to get them. I mean, that just sounds incredibly dangerous to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
It is. And here’s what you need to understand. These elements are not using old rusty 38 police specials. They’re using long range rifles, which will cut right through and conceal a little bit like it’s butter. So if they’re going to have a fighting chance, if we’re going to succeed with the minimum amount of casualties, it’s only fair to our agents to make sure they have the necessary equipment. And we’re not in that position right now, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 05 :
So in your case, and this is where folks can help you out because you can help some of these individuals themselves, what do we do, Michael?
SPEAKER 03 :
They go to our website. That’s www.investusa.org. They can make a contribution. Everything that comes in goes directly to putting those vests on these guys. We’ve got enough. We’ve been doing this for years. We’ve got enough that we can put together a good team to start the process, but Get on their channel. We’re not talking about poverty. Them people will be important. Hundreds of thousands.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, once again, if people donate to you, their money is going directly toward putting vests on the agents that are going to go after these elements that are terrorizing our streets.
SPEAKER 03 :
No question about it. You know, let me just show your listening audience this. I have been to and conducted one too many funerals for my guys. I don’t care to do it again. So I could not live it myself if a dollar went to anything other than what needs to be. Make sure they come home safely to their families.
SPEAKER 05 :
As a side note, too, and I don’t know how much influence, you know, you may have along these lines, but, you know, for all the money and things that we’ve sent to another country called Ukraine, we could actually have spent some of that money on some of the things that you’re talking about, Michael. I need less than 1%, and I can take care of every one of my guys in the country. Less than 1%. Yeah. Jeez.
SPEAKER 10 :
I wonder, you know, what about firing 87,000 IRS agents? I wonder if that would pay for some of these vests.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, there’s no question. I’ve actually put out another proposal when we were on the phone just a little while ago. I said, I’ll tell you what let’s do. You got 87,000 guys that just got transferred to the IRS? Dice.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love it. Good one, Michael.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes!
SPEAKER 05 :
Like it. That I do like.
SPEAKER 03 :
There you go. After all, you signed up to say you were willing to carry a firearm.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. Absolutely. Put you to work. I love it. I love it, Michael.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, one more time.
SPEAKER 05 :
How do folks help you guys out? What’s the best way to do that, Michael?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, if they go to our website, they can do a number of things. But make sure that they understand that, you know, contributing to make sure these guys and gals have what they need. Because I can tell you, we’ve got a rough 60 days ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re heroes.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you. And if they go to the website, that’s investusa.org. It’s a charity.org. They’ll have the ability to do that. But I need to do one other favor. telecoff today because that’s our first lot of defense now. Thank you for your service. Amen. That’s right. Absolutely. We need to build them up before we put them out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Michael, as always, I appreciate any time you join us, sir. Keep up the good work.
SPEAKER 03 :
God bless. God bless America. God bless you, too, Michael. All right, man. You’re doing a great job.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ll be with you. We’ll keep doing it, Michael. Appreciate you very much. Great guy. And, yeah, for those of you listening, if you’ve got the ability to help out in any way, shape, or form, please do so. Yeah, just a fraction of the money we spent on other things, we could be doing these things, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, if we just had some of the money that Kamala spent on stars to entertain a— Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Andy. It’s unbelievable. It’s really it is. It’s unbelievable. I mean, I don’t get off on a whole nother tangent. You know, her paying, you know, I think a lot of people had this misconception that, oh, these these are great stars. They’re who I love. They’re endorsing Kamala Harris. No, they’re getting a big fat paycheck.
SPEAKER 10 :
paycheck and you know i i’m just going out on a limb here i don’t think they were donating that paycheck to get bulletproof vests wore out no they were donating that to whatever they wanted to go out and have fun doing next whatever big bash party whatever they like doing Right.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, when we come back, hour number three, we’re going to roll through some of the already what has been stated to be cabinet positions and directors and so on inside the Trump administration. The list will continue to grow, but we’ve got enough on there today where Andy and I can talk about a few things and just get opinions of each one and potentially maybe where’s a few other seats, you know, how are they going to get filled? Who’s going to, you know, potentially, you know, fill some of those seats. Andy and I were talking through the break a moment ago, just, you know, for example, ahead of FBI, you know, who’s going to be that particular person.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did you hear John Ratcliffe was chosen to lead the CIA?
SPEAKER 05 :
I did not see that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, beautiful.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ll add that to my notes. So we have more of those that will go through when we come back this last hour, folks. Don’t go anywhere. Keep the dial right here. And if you’ve got any comments on any of these, of course, our lines are always open, 303-477-5600. We’ll be right back. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, this is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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