In this riveting episode, John Rush delves into an incident from rural Georgia that highlights a growing societal tension: the fine line between ensuring child safety and fostering independence. Join John as he analyzes a controversial arrest of a mother who allowed her son to walk into town alone, sparking debate on parenting rights and government intervention. Through nostalgic storytelling and robust conversation, John and his guests reflect on how times have changed since their own youth and the implications for today’s generation. Expect insights into societal shifts, personal anecdotes, and an unwavering commitment to reason and individual rights.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, I want to start off this particular hour, mainly because I felt like maybe my youngest son could chime in on this a little later. We’ll see. We’ve got a lot to do this hour, even with what he’s got to say. But some of you may have seen this video, may have not. This is out of rural Georgia, rural Georgia, not Atlanta, but rural. So this is a rural part of the country. So in the country, in the country. OK, now, I don’t know. Let’s see if I should. How should I say it? I think I’m just going to play this because some of you may not have seen this and may be shocked at this. Others might. Some of you might side with the police in this particular case. I’m not. I’m on the mom’s side, not the police’s side, and I’ll probably explain that when I come back. But let me just roll this. This is about a minute 51. It is a minute 51, I should say. Let me turn my sound up, Charlie, make sure everything’s dialed in, and here we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
A video shows the moment Brittany Patterson was arrested for letting her 10-year-old son walk into town by himself.
SPEAKER 07 :
What am I under arrest for? For reckless endangerment.
SPEAKER 17 :
and how was i right we’re not talking about it on october 30th patterson said she took one of her children to the doctor in the mean okay really quick i have a problem with a moment ago where she said what am i under arrest for what was i doing to endanger my child and the cop is like we’re not talking about this total by the way abuse of power in my opinion absolute crap And this is some of the stuff that we need to get changed. Again, this is in the country in Georgia. This isn’t downtown Atlanta, which, by the way, they’d probably accept. But out in the country, it’s not accepted.
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I’m her son, Soren, who’s since turned 11, decided to walk less than a mile into town from their home in rural Mineral Bluff, Georgia. While out, Patterson got a call from the sheriff’s department, worried that Soren was walking alone.
SPEAKER 17 :
By the way, cops, mind your own business. Go catch a bad guy somewhere. That’s my answer to this. Go catch a bad guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I wasn’t concerned. I wasn’t, you know, panicking or concerned because it’s just a short walk from our house. He knows how to get home. He knows how to get there. Authorities dropped Soren off at home, and five hours later, they returned. Call mommy and tell them they’re taking you to jail because you decided to walk down the street. Let go of your hand. That’s not his fault. Yeah, call the army. You’re the mother. That’s your responsibility. Last time I checked, it wasn’t illegal for a kid to walk to the store.
SPEAKER 17 :
And by the way, last time I checked, it wasn’t either. And I hope it never is.
SPEAKER 01 :
It is when they’re 10 years old.
SPEAKER 06 :
Patterson was booked on suspicion of reckless conduct, a charge that could carry one year in jail. The warrant claiming she willingly and knowingly did endanger the bodily safety of her juvenile son.
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Our criminal justice system is built on the fact that you did something or you were negligent. You did something criminally negligent. So what is it she did?
SPEAKER 06 :
Authorities have offered to drop the charge if Patterson signs a safety plan. That includes the use of a GPS tracker on her son’s phone.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. GPS tracker on her son’s phone, which she may already have on there. Who knows? Who cares? By the way, at the end of the day, here’s my answer to them. Shove it. No. I’m not abiding by that. No. You can go pound sand. That’s what I would tell them.
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but she refuses to sign it or admit doing anything wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just felt like I couldn’t sign that and that in doing so would be agreeing that there was something unsafe about my home or something unsafe about my parental decisions and I just don’t believe that.
SPEAKER 17 :
And they did cuff and stuff her and hauled her away, by the way. That’s actually in the video. You can’t see that. It made it kind of sound like you didn’t know quite where that went. And again, the video is only a minute 21 long. But yeah, they basically cuffed and stuffed her. They said they would drop charges if she agreed to sign, as you heard, a quote unquote safety plan stating how she would handle things in the future with her child. And I was explaining this to my grandkids yesterday, who my oldest is seven in this particular case. And I’m like, we hadn’t talked about this particular case, but I was just explaining what I did at that age. I had a paper route at age nine, which means I had to travel much further than a mile to deliver papers. At night in some cases, because back then I delivered the Boulder Daily Camera, which, yeah, it’s a communist rag today, of course. It wasn’t as bad then, but it is today. It’s owned by the Denver Post, and they’re all communists that run both of those. Yes, I’ll say that because it is. It’s the communist. paper here in town. We don’t have a conservative paper. Well, we do, but not in that stage. When the Rocky Mountain News and the Post combined, we lost. At that time, the Rocky Mountain News was sort of quasi-conservative back in the day. If you’re a liberal, you read the Post. If you’re a conservative, you read the Rocky Mountain News. That since went away, and we only have one now, and it’s all communist, and they own the Boulder Daily Camera. If you don’t believe me, read some of the articles in both and tell me that I’m not correct. Anyways, back then, the Daily Camera was an evening paper during the week, and it got delivered in the mornings on Saturdays and Sundays. So as a paper boy, it was pretty easy for me because I could get home from school at about 4 o’clock. Our school, I think, got out at 3.15. I was home by roughly 4. And I’d start folding papers, inserting, doing all the things you need to do as a paper boy, put the canvas bags on the bicycle, which they were always there at that time anyways. And you stuffed the papers down in your handlebars of your bike, and you went and delivered paper. And I was trying to explain all of that to my 7-year-old grandson, who looked at me like, geez, Papa, you are crazy. Because today, you don’t even know what a paper boy is. And you for sure don’t know what these canvas bags on the handlebars are. Now, they all know what bikes are because, you know, all kids have bikes. That still hasn’t changed, luckily. So I went and found a picture of an old Schwinn, which I had back in the day. With the canvas handlebar bags on it, and I showed him that, and he looked at me in bewilderment like, number one, that’s the weirdest looking bike ever, and number two, those things on the handlebars are goofy, but I explained to him that’s how you delivered papers. Now, keep in mind, this time of the year, it’s 4.15 right now, so if I got home, got things stuffed and handled and in my bike, and I could hit the road by 4.30, which is typically my plan, I tried to be out of the house in a half an hour, And go out and start delivering papers so that I could be done by 545 or so. I had a six o’clock deadline. And yes, I’m nine. And I might have turned. I got to think about this. I might have turned 10 as I was doing this because I did the route for about two years. But you had to travel more than a mile. And I can remember even other things we would do in the summertime with my buddies where we’d literally walk a couple of miles sometimes to meet one another with a BB gun in hand. And we never got stopping. And I know it was a different time. But as I explained to my daughter-in-law yesterday, we had the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer around that we had to deal with. Yeah, there’s still bad in the world. Even back then there was. You could still get kidnapped back then. Nothing kept you from getting kidnapped. And today with cell phones and GPS and all these different things to keep track of your kids, we’re more worried about this today is my point than when I was a kid. And I’m not sure that it’s any less safe today than it was when I was a kid. And I know I’ve debated this on air before, and we’ve had even public discussions where people have called in and so on. And I’m not going down that path. It’s more in this particular case of, once again, government overreach and interference where it shouldn’t be. This is why the left lost on Election Day. 15, no, it wasn’t even 15 days ago. What was it, 13 days ago? No. Yeah, 13 days ago. That’s why they lost. Government overreach. Part of it. I know there’s other things that were thrown into the mix of why Donald Trump won, but in some cases, it’s what I’m talking about. People are tired of this. This lady in a rural area is arrested, cuffed and stuffed, handled, booked, etc., because she let her 10-year-old, while she went to a doctor’s appointment, walk to whatever, 7-Eleven or the Seesaw or wherever it is. How ridiculous. Now, I know I probably get some nasty emails and text messages along these lines like, you know, I wouldn’t let my 10-year-old walk. Okay, you do what you want to do. That’s fine. You do you. My point is, and I want to come back and talk a little bit more about this, is this why we have the soft society we have today? I mean, I walked everywhere when I was that age. Walked or rode my bike because you didn’t have any choice. There wasn’t any other way to get there. If you wanted to go get a candy bar or wherever at the 7-Eleven, you had to walk there. You didn’t have a choice. 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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we had a caller off air say that the story I just showed or that I just gave, number one, we let unaccompanied minors come across the border with no problem, and yet this kid can’t walk to 7-Eleven. And it also shows that the kids are no longer your problem. responsibility and or possession quote unquote and i’m using possession you guys know what i mean by that our kids our are our possessions if you would in that way but government is now asserting that they have possession over the kids not we as parents and by the way whoever that was thank you you are 100 correct bob and thornton you’re next oh yeah john you probably know a lot about my history uh
SPEAKER 04 :
I had a paper route. My older brother had a paper route. My older, older brother had a paper route.
SPEAKER 17 :
You come from a long line of paper routes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I mean, and Buffalo, New York, you know, in the wintertime, that was no fun. My mother walked me to school in September of 1954 to kindergarten. And after that, I was on my own. I walked to school.
SPEAKER 17 :
So in other words, she walked you once, and then you had to do it on your own.
SPEAKER 04 :
There was one street that might have had some traffic, and we had a crossing guard who was an old retired teacher, and she’d come out and she’d cross you in the morning, the afternoon for lunch, if you’re going home for school, back, and then at the end of the day, and that was it. centralized as they are now i grew up in a neighborhood where my first school was oh i don’t know quarter of a mile from home my next school was maybe half a mile my high school was maybe mile you know and then when i was 16 i drove myself to high school right uh bicycles uh You know, in the summertime, our bicycles were our freedom.
SPEAKER 17 :
We went everywhere, Bob. I mean, I’m sure you were the same way. I mean, when it got to be nice enough to where you could ride without, you know, literally freezing to death. And someday in Colorado, you know, we have days like today where it’s, you know, close to 60 degrees. And even on a November day, we’d be out riding bikes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, in the summertime in Buffalo, we would get a bowl of Cheerios or something like that for breakfast or something. And then my mother never drove. My father had to go to work, so he didn’t drive anybody to school. Nowadays, they’ve got to be driven right to the door.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, Bob, most of them get driven to the bus stop where mom and dad will then wait for little Johnny to get on the bus while they wait in the warm car because you wouldn’t leave little Johnny alone at the bus stop waiting for the yellow bus to show up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but my dad couldn’t do that because he did something that was peculiar. Went to work.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I know. Amazing, huh?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, so we were on our own for that. There was no problem. Would you gather up and walk to school with your chums?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so I guess, Bob, ultimately for you, and we’ll ask others the same, and again, this is, I do think that every kid should be looked at accordingly, and some kids are much more responsible than others, and there might be some 10-year-old kids that maybe you wouldn’t want out walking on their own, but this young man, I looked at him in this video, looked like a, I mean, a lot of times you can just tell from looking at someone, are they responsible enough And I don’t know this kid, you know, intimately, but the mom must, and the mom didn’t feel any issues with it. So my question to you, Bob, is, you know, where’s the harm in a 10-year-old walking to the 7-Eleven?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I don’t know, but I’ve left the best for last, John. You know, in the summer times, I lived two miles from the Canadian border, and we would ride our bicycles across the Peace Bridge into Canada.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, boy, you were an international bad kid then.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because, well, they didn’t charge any 25-cent toll to go over the bridge. And the customs people would go, where are you kids going? Oh, we’re going over to Crystal Beach because the northern side of Lake Erie was much nicer and cleaner than the southern side where all the Bethlehem steel and all that was. And we’d go over there to the amusement park or the beaches on our bicycles. And as long as we were home and cleaned up, our faces washed. By the time my father got home from work, that was okay.
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Yeah, yeah. Bob, again, thanks for the stories. I can’t disagree with anything you’re saying. I mean, the reality is that’s the way it used to be. And my point is… why have we lost that? I mean, have we become so protective of our kids and insulating them to the point where, you know, they no longer can enjoy the lives that we had? And I get it. I lived, you know, my daughter-in-law yesterday said, you know, you were a different kid. Okay, I get that. And I was. I was. I was a different kid. I didn’t mind the paper route. Now, there were some days where even as a kid you were like, oh, jeez, I’ve got to go do this paper route. But you did it. And the one thing about it is I always had money in my pocket. I took out my money clip yesterday and showed my grandkids that this is what I did back then, and I showed them cash, which a lot of kids don’t see today because most kids don’t know what cash is. Of course, their eyes get huge like saucers, like, oh, there’s money, real money. Yeah, and this is what you did to earn it. And so I was trying to encourage them that when they get to be of that age, 9, 10, 11 years of age, go find ways to make money and get started down that road, and you’ll always have it. Learn how to work at an early age, and, you know, you’ll be one step ahead of everybody else. We’ve forgotten, my point is, we’ve forgotten how to teach young kids that. Instead, we’ve got, in this case, the authorities, the sheriff, and I’m not against sheriff departments. Most of them are really good. This one seems to be far overreaching. I’m not sure why. Now, maybe there’s more to the backstory. Maybe this is a situation where this kid’s running around town at times and he shouldn’t be, although I didn’t hear that even in the… meeting with the mom and the arrest. In fact, the mom was basically saying to the kid, you know, I guess you shouldn’t have gone because now I’m going to jail. And the smart aleck female cop says that’s not his problem, that’s yours. And I just, I would have had a hard time not turning around and smacking that gal. I’ll just be straight up honest. That would have been really hard for me to not have some sort of aggression personally at that point in time when that smart mouth said that. Again, overreach of government. I can almost tell you how that gal voted. Almost. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m wrong. But I highly doubt it. And again, this is, you know, overreach of government is my point with this story. And then on top of that is this partly why we’re raising some of the kids that we now have that are afraid of their own shadow at times. They don’t know if they’re a boy or a girl. Now, I can tell you, this kid knows he’s a boy. I’d pretty much tell you that. It’s frustrating. It’s frustrating. And some of you that have called in and have texted in, even there’s been several text messages along these lines of, well, it’s probably good they arrested her and not me, or I might have been arrested for a different reason. Yeah, me too. I might have been arrested for something different than what was really going on because I might have let my mouth probably get a little further ahead of me than maybe it should have. And maybe have said a few things to those officers that I probably shouldn’t have. I I honestly wouldn’t have gone with him. I would have asked for my lawyer and a supervisor to have shown up right then and there. In fact, you could hear the lawyer in that particular clip talking about what has she done wrong? Prove to me what she did wrong. Show me the law and the statute of what she did was wrong. But again, this goes back to our caller that said this is government wanting your kid to be theirs. And we allow it. We allow it. This is areas where we as citizenry should be pushing back. Unless some harm was going to come to this kid some way, somehow, I have no problem with the 10-year-old walking to wherever he wants to walk or she wants to walk or he wants to walk. Again, I look at some of this as what maturity level is that 10-year-old? I had a maturity at 10 where if my folks wanted to go away and leave me with my brother and sister for any length of time, I could have babysat just fine. No problem. At age 10. I definitely could have done it at 13, 14 years of age. No problem. I could have even done it at 10. I knew enough back then. We didn’t have cell phones and things like that. But I knew what 911 was. I knew how to get a hold of people if something happened. I mean, we were of the age where if I had a good friend of mine, she might even be listening right now. And if you are, you’ll know who you are. We lived about four miles apart from one another. We lived out in the country, and we lived about four miles apart from one another. And I knew how to ride all of the back roads, including some of the train tracks, to get to her place without really getting on any of the busy roads. Because, yeah, even back then, cars drove super fast, and you didn’t want to be on little small two-lane asphalt roads where the cars were driving 60 miles an hour on your bike. That wasn’t really… What I wanted to do. And I did it to where I never had to get on that road. I knew how to ride along the train tracks and go the back roads and so on. And we would meet up and spend the day together. And I’d ride back home later in the night, similar to what Bob was saying. And we weren’t much older than 9, 10, 11 years of age doing that. And I guess my folks should have gone to jail for that. Like this gal did. But again, I’m asking the question, where have we gone wrong in all of this? And where is that line of being too protective or not protective enough? And I’ll just leave you with that. I’m going to bring my son Richard on here in a moment. We’ll move into sports and some other things. I’ve got a couple of car reviews to do as well. But that whole story I watched, and I was fuming. When I watched that, I just started fuming. I’m just like… Really? This is all we as law enforcement in that particular area have to do is show up to her house with three cops to cuff and stuff her? There’s nothing else in rural Georgia going on. No meth houses, no vandalism, nobody doing anything they shouldn’t be, no sex trafficking going on. I can go down the line of other things that potentially could be going on in that particular area. Nothing’s going on other than we let a 10-year-old walk to the store and back and… We’ve got to send three cops out to arrest this gal? What a waste of resources, by the way, when it’s all said and done. Golden Eagle Financial is next. 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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. I’ll get to my son, Richard, in just one second. Lisa, you’ve got a comment about Snow White. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hi, I just want to make a short comment. I’m a licensed psychotherapist, and when somebody uses language that’s that fake and that blaming and not taking personal responsibility for your own actions. Nobody’s forcing anyone to keep a baby. There are many ways not to have one. And if one finds themselves in a place where they have an unwanted pregnancy, there are many options.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
So no one’s forcing them to do anything. Absolutely. I for one think that this is stunningly amazing that we’re still going through this and I don’t think it’s going to get any better than However, I do think that we need to speak up, people who are constitutionalists and people who are pro-life, and stop being so silent.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree. And by the way, thank you for not being that way. And of course, as you know, we aren’t here ever. In fact, sometimes I might go a little over the top, but by now people know who I am, so it is what it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t think you’re over the top. I think you’re exercising your right, your constitutional rights to speak out.
SPEAKER 17 :
free speech and you know rachel can do that too but i get to disagree and i can do it and you get to not go to the movie if you want to the power of the purse lisa thank you by the way i appreciate that and thank you for uh that also richard what’s up
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, it’s funny, actually, you brought that up, and you obviously didn’t hear all of the conversation, but it’s an interesting conversation, because like you say, I think sometimes we as conservatives and Christians tend to not use our voice, and maybe it’s the loudest voice we have, which is where our money goes, right? Right, absolutely. And sometimes when it comes to these movies, you know, actually, I was talking with Walt today about where some of that stuff goes, and the movies upcoming and such, and with Disney and They’re coming out with several movies over the course of the next several years that are going to be great. For example, this upcoming season, I’m sure Andy will actually probably be going to see this over the next few weeks, which is Moana 2.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s coming out. Next week, actually. Yeah, exactly. And my daughter, she’s very excited to see it, hoping it’s not riddled with a bunch of nonsense and all of these different things. And the unfortunate thing that I think Disney, and especially the lead actress there, Snow White, is missing is A lot of people have made a lot of money being out of, well, I guess I’m going to think of this, of staying out of political realms and that sort of thing, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, lots of actors, by the way, i.e. Tom Cruise, who we know where he stands, The Rock, we know where he pretty much stands. I mean, we know where these guys lean, but those are two guys that understand who their customer is, and let’s give the customer what they want and stay out of the rest of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think sometimes we’re, especially, I’ll just say we’re Disney, you know, because you had it with, not as much, you’re Little Mermaid, right? You kind of had a different lead actress than that. Obviously, you’ve got Snow White and some of these others. It’s like, guys, where your paycheck is written from is sort of reliant on, you know, young girls and families coming to see your movies, right, and your films. And I’ll just say, you know, there’s lots of movements towards feminism, that sort of thing, today, but we just saw it with this last election. Not an overwhelming, but a majority of America don’t want all that garbage, right? Correct. They just want good old-fashioned entertainment. You and I talked about this, you know, over the weekend, and we’ll get a little bit about it when it comes to sports, right? And that is, there are certain things, sports entertainment, which you could argue sports is entertainment, right? is meant to bring us all together. It’s not meant to be this device. And I’m all for if you’ve got a platform, using it for what you feel is right. Like your last caller said, that is your constitutional right and all those things. But just sometimes you’ve kind of got to look inwards and say, you know what, maybe I just don’t need to talk about that. Maybe I just don’t need to bring attention to that because that’s going to cause problems. cause problems and alienate certain people that I don’t really want to alienate. And sometimes I think that some of these people, they kind of miss that point, you know? And I think that they should just, it’s okay sometimes to just be quiet and let your movie do the talking, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. No, you’re 100% correct. And I think, you know, Andy and I talk about with, you know, Disney a ton. I mean, the reality at the end of the day is I think they’re making grave mistakes with some of what they’re doing because at the end of the day, it very well could have them purchased by someone else like an Elon Musk if they’re not careful.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I know that Disney’s struggling. They’re looking to offload ESPN and certain things. Disney would be very well served to get back to just making the family-friendly films that do wonders at the box office. It costs them $150 million to make it, but they bring in $500 million. That’s a great success. And the way that you do that is you stay out of all of the other nonsense. Look at their last numbers of movies. It’s ones that have had the least amount of political or cultural, I guess, You know, innuendos, right? That’s probably the best way to say it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s the ones that don’t have all that stuff that have done the best.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And they would be much better served to stay away from that sort of stuff and to bring in… And honestly, you know, talk about family, right? Talk about relationships, talking about… And you don’t even have to, you know, talk about… certain kinds, just those different themes, right? Trust, honor, honoring your parents, things like that. It’s very easy to be able to do those things. It’s just an interesting endeavor, and again, Disney never ceases to amaze me, although I think that they’re starting to come back to reality a little bit, Dad, and I think it’s only going to, or hopefully, it only gets better throughout time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Speaking of reality, both of our teams played extremely well over the weekend, the Buffs and the Broncos. Yeah, those are the two main. I know we’ve got other teams in the state, folks. We’ve got teams that are way down south that I think are doing very well, Greeley, CSU, and so on. But the mainstays are, of course, the CU Buffs and the Broncos. So really quick, the Buffs, they played well. tremendously well at home Saturday morning. I didn’t have a chance to watch the game because I’m on air during that time, but they cleaned house.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it was amazing, Dad. Utah has been a thorn in their side for the past number of years, has not let up. I was nervous coming to this game because Utah is like the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NFL. They are just a very hard-nosed, tough football team, and that tends to at least keep games close and win you some games that you’re not supposed to win. And that was one of the situations that I thought was going to happen this past weekend. But CU’s just really talented, Dad. There’s just no other way to say it. They’re beating teams that they should beat. It’s the most points that Utah’s given up in almost ten years, I think, on that forever. They’re down this year, although their defense is still pretty good. I think it was actually the number one ranked defense in the Big 12. CU’s really good. They’re coming along. We’ve talked about it. They honestly know they’ve got to win two more games. They win two more games. They’re in the Big 12 championship game. They win that, and they are in the college football playoff, which for most folks, Dad, to be able to say that. Again, we talked about this last week. Two years ago, they won one game, right? Last year, they won four games, but everyone was talking about how Dion didn’t know this, and he didn’t know how to recruit. And then this last week, he kind of came out with basically his philosophy, which is, The biggest detriment that people have said to him is, well, he doesn’t really recruit high school players. And Deion came back and said, no, I do, but why would I spend the time and the effort and money, right, ultimately, and recruit 20 high school kids when there’s a good chance that 10 to 15 of those kids aren’t going to even play the first year? They’re going to redshirt. And why not go get kids, regardless of their star ranking, that I think can come in and contribute day one, And play, right? Because I’m not looking to register guys. If I was looking to do that, then I’ll go a different way about it. Because he keeps turning over the class year after year by bringing in new transfer folks. He did that this past year with the offensive line. Everyone gave him grief. But it’s sort of holding true, Dad. And actually, this past weekend, they had one of their freshmen, wide receiver slash running back. He had an amazing game. Over 100 yards catching. I think he had one or two touchdowns. just played amazing. And Deion kind of came back and said, this is sort of what I’m talking about. Why would I spend the time and the effort on all of this additional recruiting? Why not just get ten guys that I think can play, or even five guys, six guys, right, that I think can come into play. I’ll fill in the rest with some of these veteran guys, and we’ll just rock and roll from there. So they continue to trend up, which is what you want to be doing in football, right, what they say in any sport. You don’t want to peak in the middle of the year. You don’t want to peak at the beginning of the year. You want to be peaking at the end of the year, right? You peak at your Super Bowl, whatever it might be, to keep getting better. And CU seems to continue to get better. They fight through adversity. They had a slow start to the game, and it showed. And then same with the Broncos, right? You had probably their most complete game of the Sean Payton era. You had something that Bo Nix did that I don’t think any other rookie quarterback has ever done where I think he completed like 80% of his passes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Unbelievable.
SPEAKER 03 :
Over 300 yards.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Against, by the way, people can say, well, yeah, but not against very tough teams. Wrong. Wrong. Well, yeah, the— I mean, no offense, but the game last week, which we should have won and it wasn’t his fault, we didn’t. You know, you play people like the Chiefs where, yes, I know they got beat last night. Hallelujah. Good job, Bills. But at the end of the day, Richard, you’re not playing— I mean, you’re still in the NFL. On any given weekend, somebody can win.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, absolutely. And honestly, Dad, Atlanta’s competing for the NFC South.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, Atlanta’s not a slouch team by any means.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it’s not. I thought they had a good chance to win, but I thought it would be a lot closer. It rarely happens that you beat a team by basically 32 points.
SPEAKER 17 :
They didn’t just beat them. They beat them.
SPEAKER 03 :
They did.
SPEAKER 17 :
I mean, I watched a lot of that game. I was working and doing some other things, doing some Christmas stuff and so on, so I didn’t get a chance to watch all of it. I listened to a good portion of it, so it’s a little different when you’re listening versus watching. I was able to come back and watch some of the highlight film and so on. But, I mean, Richard, the Broncos, I’m not saying Atlanta didn’t show up because every team shows up for a different grain. Maybe Atlanta felt like the Broncos were just going to be kind of a wash over and just a slouch and you don’t have to really prepare much, but nothing could have been farther from the truth yesterday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and like you said, Dad, you kind of hit the nail on the head, which is any given Sunday and the Broncos, and honestly, if they keep playing just like CU, they will continue to win, and they’ve got several winnable games coming up. They’ve proven, obviously, with last week, or two weeks ago against the Chiefs, last week, they’ve really only had one bad game, right? And that was against the Ravens a few weeks ago, where they just didn’t play well.
SPEAKER 17 :
They just did not play well at all. They just did nothing. Nothing went well for them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And it’s kind of the antithesis to yesterday where everything went well, right? Everything was sort of done well. And I think that that’s where this team is trending. So, again, I think for both Broncos and Buffs, I think that they can continue to trend up. Honestly, they both had a chance to make the postseason. They’ve got to take care of their own business first.
SPEAKER 17 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think they’re all capable of that, and again, I think you’re seeing what Sean Payton had in mind with the Broncos to say, well, I’m going to take advantage of this rookie guy. I know the decisions that he can make. I can work with that, and we’re just going to go from here.
SPEAKER 17 :
One last thing before we close, because you’ve got to say it. When all of the memes and other things out there keep talking about how badly the refs are in the corner for the Chiefs, when you can watch it, I’m not even, you know, I didn’t, you know, yes, I wanted the Chiefs to lose, and I’m not a huge Buffalo fan by any means. I mean, Neil Boron, who does, you know, podcasts with me, he’s, you know, from Buffalo. So, of course, I congratulated him on the win. But, Richard, when you’re from neither side and you’re watching, you know, spot placement and things like that, thinking, holy cow, who’s paying these guys?
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s just blatant.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’m sorry. It’s blatant in favor of the Chiefs.
SPEAKER 03 :
There are some times and some pieces. And unfortunately, Dad, I think it gets amplified with the Chiefs because I think we’re all heightened for it.
SPEAKER 17 :
We are, but I’m texting a guy that I know from California that’s a Charger fan, and they did really well last night. But I’m texting him during the Chiefs game against Buffalo, and even he’s saying the same thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, like I said, I think it’s sort of amplified, right? When the Broncos were doing so good with Peyton, we’re getting all the calls. I will say this, though. It definitely feels like in the, maybe not in the totality, right, just in the sheer numbers game, but in the crucial, crucial moments of the game. It feels like, maybe it’s not the case, but it feels like the Chiefs tend to get the benefit of the whistle more often than not.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
We don’t yell at you, we inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Car reviews, we do. We do them today and also play them during the show on Saturdays. And right now, Richard, I’ll start with a 2025 Buick Enclave Avenir. I think I’m saying that correct. A-V-E-N-I-R. That’s the trim level on this particular Enclave. Now, really quick, the Enclave is not all-wheel drive. It is a front-wheel drive only, so those of you looking for a third-row SUV with all-wheel drive, this is not it. Although this car, fully equipped, which has lots of bells and whistles, I’ll talk about some of those in a moment. 65 125, powered by a 2.5 liter turbo four-cylinder engine, 8-speed automatic. It averages 19 city, 24 highway. I’m in the low 20s driving around town with it, Richard. Very luxurious car. It has a ton of bells and whistles we compare it to another car that we drove that we’ll get to in a moment other than that car that we had was not a three row this one is so this is a full three row pretty nice car you act you had a chance to look at it yesterday richard and interior wise very well equipped well and i was going to say that you look at this car and i’ll say this folks
SPEAKER 03 :
If I didn’t know that you were driving a Buick, I would not have said that. I think my first words were, wow, that’s a Buick? And maybe that should be a marketing phrase, right? Maybe we start something here with GM and how they’re going to do it, because it does not look like that. It looks great. That color, surprisingly, it’s a purple. I’m not much of a purple guy, but it actually looks really good on the vehicle. And inside that, interior-wise, it’s really got some nice apportionments, especially for the money.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, I want to make sure that I correct myself, too. It comes in a front-wheel drive or an all-wheel drive version, so I want to make sure I correct myself on that. Yes, you can get this in an all-wheel drive. This is basically like an Acadia style. So GM, because it’s a General Motors, Buick is GM. So, you know, the Acadia and so on, that’s the size of car. And, yes, you can get it in front-wheel drive and all-wheel drive. And, yes, the one I drove was all-wheel drive and comes in in the mid-60s, which, by the way, very well apportioned. Okay. Very well apportioned. Nice car. Styling is great. Believe it or not, the power on that car works fabulous. I just got to throw a couple of negatives in just because I have to. And I drive Super Cruise occasionally. I’ve also driven Ford’s Blue Cruise. And I will just say this. The Super Cruise on this car, and it could have just been this model, and maybe there’s some tweaking they can do. It’s choppy compared to Blue Cruise on the Ford side. In other words, the Super Cruise drives itself. This one is more choppy than what you’ll find on the Ford side. Other than that, though, the only complaint my wife has… She cannot get the passenger side seat adjusted to where it really feels and fits her. Now, she’s very short, so that might be a height thing. But at the end of the day, she was not as comfortable in the front passenger seat as she is in a lot of the other vehicles that we drive. And, Richard, that’s why we always tell people, please, get out in this vehicle yourself. Drive it for yourself. Go to the local Buick dealer. Tell them that John and Richard Rush both from Drive Radio sent you. All right, you had a chance to drive something, and I did as well, so we don’t seldom drive the same car in the same week, but we both had an opportunity to drive a brand-new Volvo. Now, this is a 2025 Volvo XC60 Recharge All-Wheel Drive Ultimate Black Edition coming in at about $77,000.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, quite the mouthful. The only thing I’ll say, it is a 2024. Oh, 2024, sorry. Not a whole lot of changes. And folks, what you just need to know is this is an XC60 that’s basically a plug-in hybrid. And they’ve got some different trim levels on it in terms of interior features and some of that sort of stuff. There’s no longer a front-wheel drive or a supercharged engine option, Dad. Everything, I believe, is now all-wheel drive, if I’m not mistaken. Again, it’s available as a plug-in hybrid. There’s now, on some trims, there’s an air purifier, upgraded windows, some of those things. Here’s what you need to know, folks. This is a plug-in hybrid, midsize SUV, fits four full-size adults, although that second row is not completely full-size.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s tight for legroom in the second row, just to make everybody aware. I just reviewed the Buick Enclave, and just saying the backseat room, there is twice as much in that Buick as there is the Volvo, but the Buick’s a bigger car.
SPEAKER 03 :
It absolutely is a bigger car. And the Volvo, again, you’re going to get a little bit more interior creature comfort, some finishes, some of that Swedish interior finishes that folks that drive Volvos, that they love. It is a luxury SUV, as a lot of people are going to say. Like you say, about $77,000 for this car. On the plug-in mode, you can get between 35 and 40 miles per gallon.
SPEAKER 17 :
I average close to 40 on the plug-in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, which is great. And even after that, you’re going to be able to get over 400 miles of range, about 25 miles per gallon or so. It’s got a 2-liter turbocharged engine in it, which works really, really well. It scoots, by the way.
SPEAKER 17 :
That car does, with the combo of the battery, the drivetrain, and so on, it scoots. It does work very well.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think it’s over 400 horsepower. Yeah, it runs like it.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is a powerhouse.
SPEAKER 03 :
It works phenomenally well, and I will, again, I’ll say this, you know, took the kids to school in it this morning. It’s got all the safety features you’re going to want, something that, you know, Volvo has become known for, Dad. They do a tremendous job at that. But, again, I think that for folks that aren’t used to driving Volvos, Dad, I encourage you. Get in it and test drive it. Yeah, very nice car. Because I think you’re going to be surprised by it, pleasantly surprised.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and really quick, for the comparison side, I told people earlier about the Buick and the passenger seat and the fact my wife didn’t really care for it. This particular car, yeah, it’s $10,000 more. She liked this car between the two much better than the Buick. Nothing against the Buick. And for the value and for the money, and if you needed a three-row, it worked extremely well. But in this particular case, Richard, her vote went to the Volvo.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and part of that, Dad, is with that black edition, you get quite a few different extra features. You get massaging front seats in this vehicle, right, that you don’t get in some of these other cars. And even in this segment, Dad, you don’t get that for less than $80,000, which is what this car is. This is the top-of-the-line XC60. You really can’t go above this car, which we tend to get, Dad, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s how they do the press cars. That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we test all these features. You don’t have to do that. Folks, you can get an XC60. I want to say, Dad, you can get the recharge for in the mid-50s. Right. Depending on how you… That’s right. Maybe try it. I’ll say the high 50s, depending on how you apportion it. So I would encourage folks, Dad, especially if you haven’t driven a Volvo in a number of years or… You know, maybe it’s been a few years since you’ve even seen one, whatever it might be. Get out, test drive this, get your family in it, because I will say this, you can get some boosters and such in the backseat. I don’t know if you can get a full-size car seat. I didn’t try that out yet. I can say you can get boosters for the kids. in there. But when you do that, I think that you really learn a lot about these cars and kind of what you may like or may not like. So once you do that, head to your local Volvo dealership, dad, test drive it. And when they do that, tell them that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, I’ll let you go with that. And just to add one other note, the Buick did have massaging seats as well. So a lot of them are coming with that. Golden, or sorry, Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning is up next. Find them at klzradio.com.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, that’s it for this second hour. Third hour is next. Kurt Rogers will join us for our Monday Mortgage Minute. And then Sean Worthington, he is a financial guru. We’ll talk about inflation, some of what’s going on in the marketplace and so on. All of that next right here on Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
I’m a rich guy.
