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All right, we are back, Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560. And all right, we talked, I promo that we would talk today about some of the upcoming amendments and propositions to the, or that’ll be on the ballot, you know, some of these amendments, of course, to the Constitution of Colorado, not the United States. These are local things that we’re talking about, state things.
And I’ve got the blue book in front of me, and then there’s propositions. So we actually have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven amendments to vote on, and one, two, three, four, five, six, seven propositions. So fourteen in total.
It’s a heavy year, by the way. In a lot of years, we don’t have this many. So the titles to these, let me just roll through these.
We will probably get to some of these that we, you know, that I’ll highlight and we’ll talk about, Andy. I doubt we’ll get to all fourteen of these in an hour.
And these are all statewide?
These are all statewide. You will all vote on these. Amendments, yeah, all, yeah, all amendments and propositions are statewide.
These are put on by signatures, and people come up with the language, and I won’t get into all of the routine of that because you can go look that up as to how that happens. But there is a process, approval process, whereby you have to go through that, Andy, to get these on the ballot in the first place.
OK, now you and I have not even looked at these yet. So we’re doing this fresh. But historically, I would say when you and I do this, we come out at least 75, 80 percent against most.
There’s very few that I ever say yes to.
Me too. OK, go ahead.
Let’s get started. Amendment G, Modify property tax exemption for veterans with disabilities. Now, I’m not going to go through and read all the details of these.
I’m just going to read you the headlines. If we want to come back to these and read the specifics, Andy, we can’t. But Amendment G, Modify property tax exemption for veterans and disabilities.
I don’t know what the amendment, you know, what the what the modification is. I would have to go look that up. So maybe we should actually do that really quick.
So hold on. Page 14. Page 14.
Reduce property taxes for some veterans of the US Armed Forces with a disability. That’s what it proposes.
OK. How much?
You’re expanding the existing homestead exemption to include veterans whose disability is rated as making them unemployable. To me, that’s an easy one. Yes.
Why not?
Yeah, sounds good.
Help these guys out. Help these guys and gals out.
Yeah, I’ll vote for that.
And the homestead exemption, by the way, doesn’t exclude them from property taxes. It just gives them about a… And it could be off on this ratio or on this percentage a little bit, but it’s about a 30% haircut.
That’s pretty good.
On their property. Yeah. No, it’s what the elderly individuals in Colorado get as well.
They would be included in that. To me, this is an easy yes.
They served and they paid the price. Let’s help them out.
Judicial Discipline Procedures and Confidentiality. So this one again, I don’t know much about. Create an independent board to preside over ethical misconduct hearings involving judges and allow for increased public access to judicial discipline proceedings and records.
That actually sounds good. It sounds like transparency. My problem is who would be on the board?
It will be made up of citizens, lawyers and judges to conduct judicial misconduct hearings and impose disciplinary actions and allow more information to be shared earlier with the public.
That doesn’t tell me who’s going to be on the board. That sounds like a very powerful board. Couldn’t they simply target people politically?
Well, and those are always the things you have to go through with these things and ask us. To your point, who makes up the board?
I mean, on the one hand, John, it sounds like something we definitely need, right? Because a bad judge could be very well protected by the system, right? We conservatives here in Colorado, we are so not represented that we look for anything that could be a check and balance.
But my concern is, will the check and balance just be something that, you know, goes after the last few remaining conservative courts?
So here’s the argument for, okay, Colorado judges should not have direct influence and oversight over the discipline of their own colleagues because currently it’s done that way. Okay?
I would agree with that.
So Amendment H is an important change that aims to enhance the transparency, integrity, and independence of the judicial discipline process. Historically, judicial discipline has largely been self-regulated, facing challenges in oversight and self-protection. This amendment serves to enhance public confidence and trust in the courts.
Finally, this measure is a compromise recommended by nearly all members of the General Assembly and formerly by the judicial branch. To me, this one sounds okay. I’m leaning to the yes.
I’d have to do a little more, you know, insight. I’d have to do a little more research on this.
Is there anything against it that’s written?
Amendment or the argument against is the current system works. Well, that’s always debatable. Judges understand how to review cases, hold hearings, and make impartial and hard decisions.
As a result, they have the experience to hear judicial disciplined cases. The amendment transfers authority to attorneys and citizens who cannot fully understand judicial ethics. I would argue that.
And the unique challenges of being a judge, I would argue that as well. I think I’m leaning also now more towards a yes, just hearing what I’m saying is the against part of this. The judiciary’s existing system of checks and balances such as nomination and retention elections ensures only the best outcome and remain judges.
Yeah, that sounds like people basically saying we want to police ourselves and you don’t know our business.
We’ve been doing it fine up to this point. Leave us alone. That’s what I just heard.
Yeah.
Am I right?
I always lean toward transparency. So okay, I’m going to I’ll be a tentative yes on this. I don’t know enough about it.
I get a little do a little more research.
But for now tentatively.
Yeah, for me, that’s a tentative yes as well, Andy. Okay. Okay, we get one more here before the break.
Sure.
Constitutional bail exception for first-degree murder.
Why?
I don’t know.
Okay, let me let me let me turn the page here.
Okay.
Restore, okay. Amendment 1 proposes amending the Constitution to restore the ability of judges to denial bail to people charged with first-degree murder when certain criteria are met.
Okay.
Well, what are the criteria?
Okay.
Well, first-degree murder is, of course, when a premeditated intent to kill shows extreme indifference to human life while engaging in conduct that can only kill another person, provides a controlled substance to a child on school grounds who dies as a result, a person in a position of trust only causing the death of someone under the age of 12.
I didn’t know that judges couldn’t deny bail now. They can’t do it now?
No, I think the way that as far as I know, unless there’s a state change, and Charlie, maybe you know this answer versus me, but I think part of our judicial system is you can have, there’s typically very few instances where bail cannot be granted. I’m guessing unless you’re a flight risk or something, I mean, from the shows I’ve watched, The Law and Order and so on, I’ve watched over the years, Andy. Typically, it’s only in extreme circumstances that you cannot as a judge grant bail.
If you’re accused of first degree murder, John, that almost makes you a flight risk on its own. I mean, obviously, you’re going to want to skip town if you can.
Well, but here’s the argument against.
All right, let’s hear it.
In the United States, and you and I have talked about this a lot, a person is considered innocent until proven guilty.
Right.
If an individual is ultimately found not guilty at trial or pre-trial detention means they would have spent time in jail for a crime they did not commit. This raises significant concerns about justice and fairness as the time lost and impacts on their life cannot be undone. Therefore, a person arrested for a criminal offense should have the opportunity to be free pending trial.
Judges have the discretion to set restrictive bail conditions if they believe a person is especially violent or likely to commit another offense if they are released pending trials. This one for me is a no.
Yeah, I like that argument better. I like that argument better because, you know, look at the J6, now it’s not for murder, but look at the J6 detainees. We can hold them forever, deny bail.
Because number one here is a premeditated intent to kill. Well, who gets to prove that? The jury should get to prove that.
That hasn’t been proven yet. And you’re holding them.
A DA nor a judge should be able to determine that.
I do think, though, that the other side does have a point in that, look, they are a flight risk. I mean, if this, obviously, they’re going to want to skip town if they can.
But keep in mind, a judge has the ability to set bail at a X amount.
Right, right. Which would make it difficult.
Yeah, which would make a lot of that difficult.
But then can somebody come back and say, well, isn’t that simply worse for the poor? OK, a poor person who’s accused of first degree murder is not going to be able to afford to pay bail, to make bail, so you can hold them as long as you want.
Well, in this case, they would be held, period. Even if you’re just accused of murder, you’re going to be having no bail, and you’ll be in the slammer.
Yeah, I’m leaning no on this, too.
I mean, to me, this takes away that whole innocent before proven guilty thing.
Yeah, if you haven’t proven them guilty, you shouldn’t be able to hold them.
Yeah, and if you want to set high bail because you think there’s some sort of extenuating circumstance, then so be it. Yeah, they’re a wealthy guy. We’ve seen situations throughout the years, you know, Andy, to where somebody just because they’re accused of doesn’t necessarily mean they did.
True. And let’s face it, their wealth level is usually taken into consideration by the judge.
You know, yeah, they’re very wealthy. They’re going to have higher bail.
If it’s Oprah Winfrey, you’re not going to set her bail at a hundred bucks for first degree murder.
You’re not even going to set it at a hundred grand. It’ll be in the millions.
Yeah, billions, you know, because she could easily just pay it and then leave.
So to me, guys, and again, we’re going just y’all know, I haven’t read any of the other opinions on these because there’s lots out there. You can go to a lot of different websites and get opinions on how you should vote on these. This is Andy and I taking this raw, walking through this, talking openly as we go through this.
So for me, this is on amendment I.
And by the way, we will take phone calls on this too. If you got an opinion on this, by all means, way in.
Amendment I, I’m a no. So we’ll come back. We’ll go through some more of these in a moment.
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All right, we are back. Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560. Somebody commented, by the way, on Amendment H, Judicial Discipline Board would be appointed by the Colorado Supreme Court and the governor.
Decisions are final unless proof of some specific legal issue then to be decided by the Supreme Court. So again, this is one that is for the discipline of judges that may have done something wrong.
Yeah, but do you want Jared Polis appointing the people who are going to keep that in line? I don’t. I’m still for it because I like the, it’s better transparency than having them police themselves.
I don’t like the fact that it’s appointed that way.
Yeah.
Either.
I mean, my goodness.
This one I got to do more research on. So if any of you have any other, any other things you want to add to that, please let me know because that one, yeah, I would want to research. Next one, Amendment J, repealing the definition of marriage in the Constitution, which currently, let me again, let me get to this page.
Sorry, my books.
Why would I want to repeal the definition of marriage?
Repeal the definition that states only a union of one man and one woman is a valid or recognized marriage in Colorado. A yes vote on Amendment J repeals that language. So to me, that’s a no.
Yeah, I’ll vote no on that, but I think it’ll go through.
Oh, that one definitely will go through. Right. That one, yeah.
I don’t think either one of us would bet against that one.
By the way, let me take a step back here. You know, while I will, I would vote no on it. I gotta be honest.
Do I care about gay people being married? I mean, does that in any way detract from my wife and I being married?
My feeling on all of this, and I’ve said this for years, and some people would, you know, probably highly disagree with me, but I would like to get the state and the government out of the marriage business completely, because the only reason they are is for all sorts of reasons that frankly, they shouldn’t be including taxes and so on. The reality is, I want them out of it completely. I want that between those two individuals and their church or whatever means they have of doing that.
I want the state, in other words, should I even think, you know, do I think states should issue marriage licenses? No, I don’t. No, they should be out of that business.
Now, I agree. And you and I have said that for years, but let me ask you this. What if somebody wanted to marry their cat?
I guess at the end of the day, Andy, who does it harm?
I don’t know.
Other than they’re a psycho, the cat, Charlie says. I mean, I know some people would say, John, really, you would say that? I mean, at the end of the day, they’re a wacko.
Do I care that they’ve got other problems? Yeah, in other words, do we want least of them?
In other words, yeah, because if we say we’re against that, we’re basically saying we want to make insanity illegal. Well, I can’t make insanity illegal.
No, that’s a person that needs a lot of help. And frankly, again, marrying their cat is the least of their worries.
If you want to be a lunatic, I guess you can.
Well, there’s no laws against that, actually, Andy. There’s a lot of them out there. They’re called Democrats.
Sorry. Sorry, but not.
Oh, I just don’t think that they would go honeymooning in Springfield. Go ahead. What’s next?
Honeymoon will be in the litter box, wouldn’t it? I’m so sorry.
Next one.
MMK, Modify Constitutional Election Deadlines. Modify Constitutional Election Deadlines. Let me flip over to this one.
Make deadlines one week earlier for citizens to submit signature for initiative and referendum petitions and for judges to file declarations of intent to seek another term and require that the content of ballot measures be published in local newspapers 30 days earlier than under the current law. No, the way we do it now is fine. Why hasn’t he changed?
To me, that’s a no.
Yeah, I don’t.
If somebody has another reason why that should be a yes, please let me know. But for me, what we have works. Why doesn’t he change?
I’ve never seen a problem with the current system, so I’d have to hear from the pro side.
The argument for election deadlines are tight, especially to send ballots to military and overseas voters. Amendment K gives election officials more time to format, translate, and review ballots for accuracy before they are sent to voters. Time for this work is particularly important as ballots grow longer and more complex.
It also ensures that newspapers publish… By the way, take that sentence out. No one reads a dang newspaper anymore, people.
So that whole line should just be removed. That’s irrelevant. No one reads a newspaper.
Period. Keep going. Against.
For some initiatives, a Medicaid gives citizens less time to collect signatures and file petitions. Extra time to ensure ballots are accurate should not make it more difficult for citizens seeking to gather signatures for citizen initiative petitions. By the way, that would be my statement on this.
That’s why I’m against this. The way it works now is fine. Those individuals that are involved in getting ballots ready and so on, suck it up.
I don’t know what to tell you. Sorry. Such is life.
All right, what’s next?
Go on. I mean, to me, that’s a no. It doesn’t need changed at this point.
Constitutional right to abortion. I think you already know where you and I are going to be.
Yes, no.
But go ahead.
Let’s hear it.
Make abortion a constitutional right in Colorado. That’s a no. Repeal the existing constitutional ban on state and local government funding for abortion services.
No, no, no.
This one’s an easy one. I don’t have to research it.
Why are you forcing your fellow citizens to pay for your choice?
You shouldn’t be.
Okay. I mean, seriously.
Yeah. No, I agree. That one’s an easy one, Andy.
Last one, Amendment 80.
And that’s going to pass, by the way, though.
I’m sure it will.
Yeah. Go ahead. Amendment 80.
Which, okay. We got time. Because I can come back and do an 80 in a moment.
I saw something yesterday, Andy, that talked about how the fact or the reason why I saw a comment on Facebook, the reason why Colorado is blue because of Dominion, the voting machines.
What?
Whoever said that.
So all those millions of Democrats who have moved here from blue states, that had no effect.
Yeah. If you’re listening to me and you’re the person that posted that, you’re an idiot. Literally, you’re an utter idiot because no, that is not why Colorado is blue.
That amendment that we just talked about and the fact that it will pass is why we’re blue, folks. Has nothing to do with the voting machines. Zero, zilch nada.
Again, whoever posted that, you’re a moron.
I didn’t know anybody posted that.
Yeah, Andy, I see all kinds of crap that gets posted on social media all the time.
Okay, I believe you.
It’s like people, really, no, who in their right mind would even say something like that? You’re an utter moron.
Dominion’s become the great devil.
You are an utter moron. That just shows you, and this is, follow me if I’m, tell me if I’m right, Andy.
Yeah, go ahead.
That shows you the lack of understanding about our electorate in Colorado if you would go out and say something that ignorant.
Yeah, it does.
Am I right?
Oh, absolutely.
You have no idea the makeup of our state if you say that.
No, you don’t understand at all. You don’t know the people who are here. You don’t know the hundreds and hundreds of thousands who have poured in who are very left-leaning voters who simply believe in things that you don’t like.
Okay, I mean, sorry, but that’s the reality of the electorate.
You’re right. Okay, we’ll come back. I’ve got last one, Amendment 80.
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All right.
We’re at number 80 myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. Of course, we’re going through some of the amendments and propositions that will be on the ballot in November. And yes, some of you are texting in about ones that I’ll get to, and we will.
I think we can get to all of these. Some of these will be fairly brief. This one, constitutional right to school choice.
Create the right to school choice for children, K through 12, and create the right for parents to direct the education of their children and define school choice to include public neighborhood and charter schools, private schools, homeschooling, open enrollment options, and future innovations in education. This is an easy yes for me.
Yeah, and it’ll go down in flames because Colorado is insane.
This one, this is one that even lefties should look at and say, OK, wait a minute, what’s what’s wrong with this? Well, lefties hate it because this is a destroyer of unions.
Yeah.
Right. This destroys unions, correct?
Oh, yeah. It’ll just that’s why they hate it, because it takes away their well. Look at it this way.
Without public education dominance, they don’t have the power to parent your kids. They don’t have the power to inflict their ideology on your children.
Right. That’s right.
I mean, really, that’s what it all comes back to.
That’s exactly right, Andy. You’re 100% correct.
Yeah.
All right. Next one. Proposition JJ.
Can we take a step back for just a moment? I’ll be quick. I’ll be quick.
The left hates, the left takes this, notice on all of these, especially these last few, the left takes the side they take because of control. They want to control your kid. On the abortion one, they want to control your taxes.
They want to force you to pay for things you don’t believe in.
Right.
They want to control your wallet. They want to control your kids. They want to control, and people on our side don’t.
Go ahead.
All right. Proposition JJ. Retain additional sport betting tax revenue.
Allow the state to keep sport betting tax revenue above the amount previously approved by voters and use this money for water projects rather than refunding it to casino sports betting operators. Yeah, this is a no for me.
No.
It’s a hard no because none of that money ever goes there.
First of all, yeah, all that will do. Money is fungible. That means that they can redirect money from other things.
And secondly, they already take plenty from gambling in that industry. Go ahead.
The next one is an easy one as well. KK, firearms and ammunition excise tax. Create a new state tax.
Anytime it says new tax, I’m done. I don’t care what it’s on. But on firearms equal to 6.5% of the sale of firearms, firearm parts, ammunition, and exempts this money from the state’s revenue limit as a voter approved revenue change.
In other words, it’s Tabor exempt. Use the new tax revenue to fund crime, victim support services, mental health services for veterans and youth and school safety programs. This one probably will pass.
That would be my predictor, even though it shouldn’t.
Yeah. And let me tell you something. Gun shops that are run across the border.
Well, we’re going to pardon the pun, go boom.
Yeah, they’ll love this because they won’t have to pay this.
Oh, Cheyenne.
And people will be driving up there to buy things.
Yeah. I feel really bad for gun sellers here. Really bad.
I’m trying to see in here if this actually exempts or does anything in regards to online purchases. I’m guessing they will still collect those like they do a lot of other things. This is a joke.
It’s supposed to generate about $39 million in its first year. Folks, it won’t because people will buy elsewhere.
And by the way, I like how they throw, they always throw veterans in there because they want to con people on the right into thinking there’s something good about this. Folks, that’s going to be a bunch of liberals taking that money and spending it on liberal programs to preach liberalism.
Yep.
Okay, that’s all it is. What’s next?
Next one, Proposition 127, Prohibit Bobcat, Lynx and Mountain Lion Hunting. Yeah, this is a no-go. No.
No.
Who hunts bobcats? I’m not quite sure.
People do. I mean, people hunt bobcats, mountain lions and so on. They’re going to sell…
you’re going to see this in commercials as the banning of trophy hunts, quote unquote. That’s what they’re going to call this. I’ve already seen some of the ads and that’s what they’re saying.
That’s not what this is about. And this is like the introduction of wolves back into the state of Colorado. That was a bad idea.
This one is a bad idea. Because here’s the thing, folks. Remember this, even if you’re for animal rights and all of that, even as some conservatives are, people love animals and so on.
The problem is, this is that foot in the door, Andy. Sure. If they get one thing banned, they just then go chip away at it.
It’s like gun control. One thing done, you go to the next thing. Before you know it, all hunting will be banned in Colorado.
It won’t just be Bobcat and Lynx. It’ll be everything.
Let me know. By the way, I agree with you. I’m against it all the way.
But let me give devil’s advocate really quick here. You can’t shoot a bald eagle. So, there are things that you cannot shoot.
There are some things you cannot hunt that are protected species, correct?
Right.
Bobcat, Lynx and Mountain Lion are not.
Right. And so, what they would say is, okay, if we protected these, why can’t we protect those?
That’s what they’re going to try to say. They’re basically saying that these are animals that should be, by the way, we’ve already seen propositions among this, among things like hunting of bears and so on.
What about something that’s in… Now, these aren’t endangered.
No.
Okay. So first of all, bald eagles, if you can shoot those, they are endangered. That’s different.
Right there, there’s a difference.
By the way, you can only hunt them if you’re an Indian. I’m not to make… That’s not a joke.
You can hunt bald eagles if you’re an Indian.
Correct.
Yes, that is correct.
I doubt there’s any Indians wanting to hunt bald eagles.
Oh, they do.
But they do.
Oh, yes. What would they do? It’s part of their ritual and different things that they do as a part of their culture and so on.
So yeah, absolutely.
Because of the feathers?
Feathers and the ceremonial things that go with it and so on. It’s a worse… And I’m not…
Sorry, folks, if I get this wrong, please. I’m not trying to be offensive to anybody, especially any of those that are in any of the Indian nations.
We just don’t know.
I’m not trying to be offensive here, but I do believe that, yes, they’re looked upon as a very highly regarded animal species and so on. It’s a reverent thing for them. So, yes, they will kill them and do things with all of the parts of the bird.
And yes, they are allowed to as a part of their ceremonies and so on. You didn’t know that?
I never thought about it. Why would I know that?
I’m not sure why I do. Useless knowledge that John knows.
So can we convince the left that the American Indians are all a bunch of eagle-hating maniacs?
Good luck on that one.
Okay, what’s next?
Proposition 128. Parole eligibility for crimes of violence. Increase the amount of prison time a person convicted of certain crimes of violence must serve before becoming eligible for discretionary parole or earned time reductions.
And make a person convicted of a third crime of violence ineligible for discretionary parole or earned time reductions.
I kind of like that.
This is another one where these are always tricky. I always want to do a little more research on this to say why.
I’m just saying on the surface I like it.
Well, and I’m always wanting to say, okay, I get what we’re trying to do here, but what are we trying to accomplish?
So we’re trying to keep these people off the streets. They’re being put out too quickly, and we’re trying to look for a way to keep them in prison longer.
Then I think that’s argument four is Proposition 128 keeps people convicted of crimes of violence in prison for a longer period of time in an effort to increase public safety and ensure that justice is served. People who commit these dangerous crimes should be kept away from their victims and the community without opportunities for discretionary parole or earned time. Victims and their families deserve the sense of security that the prolonged periods of incarceration will provide.
Against is it removes the opportunity for convicted people to achieve earned time, giving them less time, incentive to comply with prison rules or take advantage of rehabilitation opportunities offered in prison. The prison population will grow with increased costs and require additional staff. When many prisons are already short staffed and have difficulty recruiting or retaining employees, finally, there is no evidence that this measure will reduce crime rates.
This one I got to study more on. I’m not a yes or a no yet on this one. I got to study more.
I am initially a yes still because there is no evidence that this will reduce crime rates. Whenever they put that out there, I do not trust it. Yeah, keeping bad people off the streets will reduce crime rates.
Okay, so that one I’m a I don’t know. Andy’s a yes.
For now, I need to know more about it too, but yes, for now.
Yeah, I need more info. 130, funding for law enforcement. Direct the state to spend 350 million to help recruit, train and retain local law enforcement officers, provide an additional benefit for families of officers killed in the line of duty.
So a yes vote on Proposition 130, directs the state to provide 350 million in additional funding to local law enforcement agencies to improve officer recruitment retention and requires the state to provide a one time $1 million death benefit to the family of each state and local law enforcement officer killed in the line of duty.
Ooh, that’s expensive. I mean, obviously I like getting more cops and I like taking care of cops and their families when they are killed in the line of duty. Wow, where do we come up with that money?
Well, and I know that this is going to go against some folks. I’m sorry. I’m a no on this one.
And here’s why. It’s sort of the state’s rights issue. I’m a guy that believes in city, county and those organization rights as well.
So here’s my feeling on if you’re a local municipality, Denver, and you’re having a problem funding your police force, then stop supporting the illegals that are here and you’ll have more money for the police force. So I see this, Andy, and maybe I’m wrong, but I see this as a way for cities like Denver to shove off their responsibilities for their own police force. And let’s just rely on the call our taxpayer to fill in.
True. But then look at it this way. Let’s say you are in one of the outlying communities and you’re not pushing for more illegals, but they’re getting flooded to you by Denver.
And you don’t have the officers…
So you figure out a way to, so in your particular situation, then you figure out how to do your… You know my feeling on cities and budgets. They all have a bunch of fat you could cut, and the reality is if you really want to fund your police force, you can.
There’s always ways in every city to cut other things to be able to support what you need, i.e. police and fire.
Well, my big concern is where is this money coming from?
Well, this will, well, amendments or arguments for law enforcement is a critical and underfunded public need, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Nowhere in here that I read does it say where the money comes from.
Yeah, that’s a concern.
Before anybody gets mad at me, I’m all for even helping those individuals that have lost a spouse in the line of duty. I’m all for that. If this were just to help them, I’d probably be a yes.
Because that part, I don’t have any problem helping fund some sort of a fund on the same token. And I’m going to get in trouble for this. Well, I’ll say it anyways.
On the same token, I’m a business owner. I don’t work for any large organizations. I’ve never had any kind of para-retirement fund.
I’ve never been in the military. I’ve never had any access to any of those sorts of things that would provide me with quote unquote free death benefits. I’ve always had to buy those on my own.
Well, John, there’s another problem also. The second you put that money into those death benefits, there’s already money in for death benefits. You realize all money is fungible.
You put that money in, you can simply remove other money out and move it elsewhere.
That’s why I’m probably a no on this one across the board. I know that’s going to sound harsh to a lot of folks that are… And I back the blue.
You guys know me. I am all for backing the blue, but I’m also for doing it in the correct manner, not this way.
Your concern is not about the blue. It’s about the green.
Thank you.
Yeah, because we’re going to be moved from that fun, too.
And again, for all of you listening, I want to make sure I remind everybody, Andy and I are doing this raw. I did this on purpose. I didn’t study up on any of these.
I didn’t review any of these. I didn’t give Andy the blue book and say, hey, study up. We’re going to do this on Tuesday.
We’re doing this completely raw. Like a lot of you will on election day, by the way.
Before we go to break…
Am I right, Andy?
Yeah, totally.
A lot of people will do this straight up on election day.
Yeah, this is kitchen table. Correct. Real quick, what do the opponents say?
Hang on, I’m going to go back. Opponents say, arguments against. No evidence exists to demonstrate an increased funding to law enforcement agencies has made communities safer.
Proposition 130 directs the legislature to spend millions without considering local decisions about public safety need or the state’s broader public safety obligations, such as funding for courts and correctional facilities. The measure only funds law enforcement instead of alternative traditional policing, such as social workers, behavioral health benefits or health professionals. Similarly, the fund may not be applied to programs that have not proven to reduce criminal behavior, such as access to affordable housing, jobs, health education, etc.
The direction to spend more than 10 times the amounts of recent state funding on traditional policing is an irresponsible use of taxpayer dollars.
They’re making me like it. OK, the opponents are making me want to vote for it just because I can’t stand the opponents.
The opponents didn’t say what we did.
They’re a bunch of leftist kooks. A bunch of leftist kooks wrote that.
Now, this one sounds more like what I said.
We need more social workers, less cops is what they’re saying.
Yeah, the second one sounds more like us. Proposition 130 may not be implemented in a way local communities expect. The measure only explicitly requires a legislature to provide the death benefit while the grant funding to local law enforcement agencies will depend on future legislative decisions.
Local communities may anticipate levels of funding that the legislator cannot provide due to limited resources and differing priorities, creating uncertainty for local communities who will be unable to budget for this funding.
That person sounds like us.
That second one is more like us.
Yeah, that’s like us. That first one makes me want to vote for it just because I hate them.
I know. Although, again, because of the… Again, folks, this isn’t chump change.
It’s 350 million dollars. I get it. We have a state budget of about 30 billion dollars, but still 350 million is not chump change.
Right.
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Okay, real quick, backing up to Amendment 80, which is the school choice amendment. Charlie said that there are some on the right that say no, that’s a definite no because of its wording. Let me read you the first paragraph of the actual initiative.
And frankly, I still personally don’t have any issues with this because I don’t think it’s as bad as what some may say. The people of the state of Colorado hereby find and declare that all children have the right to equal opportunity to access a quality education. That parents have the right to direct the education of their children and that school choice includes neighborhood charter, private and home schoolers, open enrollment options and future innovations in education.
Some people are having a problem with the all children have the right. What I will tell you though, folks, is rarely, if ever, would a child say, hey, mom, dad, pull me out of public school, put me in that charter school over there.
They wouldn’t think about that. But what about the next sentence? But the next sentence said that parents have the right to direct.
Correct. So I don’t see how the first sentence is a problem.
So if parents have the right to direct, doesn’t, I mean…
I think some are over analyzing this in my opinion. Yeah, that’s my opinion.
The first sentence does not negate the second. Parents have the right to direct.
Some are saying it’s poorly written because of what you just said, that the second sentence sort of negates the first. I personally don’t read it that way. No, not at all.
I’m still a yes on this one.
Yeah, I’m a yes all the way. I mean, yes, kids have the right to education in all those various forms, and parents will direct it. What’s wrong with that?
Me personally, nothing. I think it’s fine. I’m not against it.
Now, if you didn’t have that second sentence… I get that, but you know…
If you didn’t have that second sentence, I would have a problem.
Okay. Proposition 129. Propose amending the Colorado Statute for establishing veterinary professional associates.
Create a state-regulated profession of veterinarian professional associate in the field of veterinary care and outline the minimum education qualifications required to become a veterinary profession… No. Sorry.
Just no.
No.
Just more regulation.
Yeah.
More crap. No, I’m not in or out of the whole veterinarian thing. I don’t know any veterinarians personally, but I’m just a no.
Look, isn’t this just creating another licensure? So license fee? I mean, really?
Says argument four. Many Coloradans struggle to get veterinary care, blah, blah, blah, allowing new veterinary providers to practice under state law might create more training and career opportunities for veterinary professionals leading to expanded access. Veterinary professional associates could provide needed relief to overwork.
They can do that now.
They can do that now.
Oh, and you know what? No, hang on. I didn’t read this right.
Okay.
This is actually sort of like establishing a physician’s assistant for veterinarians.
Oh.
I’m wrong. This would be a yes for me.
Okay. I thought that they were just creating a new licensing requirement.
It is for assistants, not for veterinarians. Like a physician’s assistant works under a physician but still can prescribe drugs and do certain things and so on as a PA. This would essentially make a PA for veterinarians.
So yes, I’m for that.
Oh. Okay.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Because basically that opens things up to the argument for…
Okay. I thought that they were basically going to clamp down on veterinarians and say, you got a total line.
No. I’m sorry. I didn’t read that right.
Create the state-regulated profession of veterinarian professional associates.
Okay.
So in other words, add a category of veterinarians we don’t currently have.
Yeah.
It doesn’t seem like a problem.
Because again, sometimes you prescribe even drugs to cats, dogs, horses, et cetera, and this would allow an assistant, quote unquote, to do so.
All right.
Which I didn’t know we didn’t have now, but again, I’m not an expert in this particular realm of things. What’s next? I think 130 is our last one.
Let me double check here. No, we have two more. Funding for law enforcement.
Direct the state to spend 350. No, we already did that one. I missed it.
I must have missed it. I’m sorry. I skipped over the veterinary one.
That’s my bad. I apologize. Somehow that one got skipped.
So we’re at 131 now, which is an easy one. Establish rank choice voting. I don’t even have to go into the details.
No. No.
I’m not even reading the rest of it. No.
Well, wait, is there a box for Hell No?
Yeah, that’s what this one should be. This is an absolute, you know, 100% NONONO. No matter what I read is for or against, it’s an NO.
Period. No. Absolutely not.
And yes, Charlie, thank you. They are running a ton of ads for this.
Let me say one word, Alaska. Thank you.
This is just a bad idea across the board, folks. And before, because there are some out there, because of Andy and I’s stance in regards to our primaries and Dave Williams and so on, that would say we’re for this. Yeah, no, we’re not.
No, absolutely not. We would never be for this. Absolutely not.
No, this is a disaster.
Yep.
Now, you want my prediction?
It’ll pass.
Yes, because most people don’t understand what this means in the end.
Right.
And we, on our side, have done a poor job of communicating what this means, because we have no one right now leading the GOP effectively because of the mess that it’s in from Dave Williams.
Right. We make it sound like just the rage crowd is against this.
No, I think most everybody inside the Republican Party, there might be a few outliers, but most are against it.
No, no, no, no, I know that, but we make it sound that way.
I know.
When you look online, the people who are against this are generally the rage crowd yells the most about it, but I don’t know anyone who’s for it.
It’s a bad idea, folks. We do not want this in the state. And I may be misguided in saying that it’ll pass.
It may not. Maybe there’s more people out there that are a little bit smarter that would understand this and realize what a mess this would be. But the ads are strong in favor of this right now.
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All right, we are back. Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560, myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. We just went through the initiatives that will be on your ballot for the Constitution, the amendments and the propositions.
You’ll see that coming up here on your ballots in November. Some of you, you know, look through some of those yourself. You may have a different outcome than us.
And I will do my best to get with Producer Anne and create a list of all of those that Andy and I feel we should do one way or the other. And you guys can take that for what it is, all right?
All right.
Hour three is next. Rush To Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, Klz560.