John Rush talks voter ID and election integrity with Josh Findlay of the Texas Public Policy Foundation’s National Election Protection Project, digging into why voter ID is broadly supported and how stronger verification can boost confidence in elections.Then Rush pivots to Minneapolis, reacting to reports of neighborhood roadblocks and ID checks aimed at tracking ICE—calling out the irony of building “borders” while condemning border enforcement.
He also unloads on a viral claim that ICE used an “EMP” to kill a Toyota Prius battery, framing it as a cash-grab story that falls apart under basic common sense.
The hour wraps with listener
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Okay, hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for being with us today. Josh Finlay joining us now, director of the Texas Public Policy Foundation’s National Election Protection Project. Josh, welcome. How are you? I’m doing great. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. OK, talk to us about voter I.D. and the fact that Nicki Minaj, who I don’t know much of, but I know she’s a singer, I believe, but she’s right. We need voter I.D.
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Well, she’s exactly right. I don’t think I agree with Nicki Minaj on much, but she came out on that one.
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I do.
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That’s exactly right. She came out with a statement this week that said she’s in favor of voter I.D. And, you know, it’s not just her. CNN, which is no friend to conservatives, also came out with some polling that showed that 83 percent of Americans believe across the board, Republican, Democrat, everything, believe that we should have voter ID. What Nicki Minaj’s statement shows is that voter ID is becoming a mainstream idea, that logical people believe in this. And finally, it seems like Congress is getting on board with the rest of the country and We’re looking at passing some good voter ID laws.
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And it’s funny because even a lot of the over the years, the man on the street interviews that get done where they go into even some of the inner city areas where the population will be highly minority, you know, could be black, could be Hispanic. And they’ll ask the question, you know. Do you have ID? And would it be a problem if you needed an ID to vote and so on? And the reality, Josh, is – and I get it. A lot of times these men on the street interviews, they only play the great interviews. But the statistics that you just shared show that the reality is – These people actually look at you like, do you think I’m crazy? I mean, do you think I don’t have the IQ to go get an ID? I need an ID to do all sorts of other things in life from not only being able to drive a vehicle, but by alcohol and on and on we go. I mean, the reality is I need ID for all sorts of things. Why would that be difficult for me to show ID to vote?
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Well, that’s exactly right. ID is such a common sense, common thing these days that everybody agrees that you should have it. You know, as part of that CNN poll, they broke it down by race. And of course, maybe unsurprisingly, 85% of white voters thought you should have voter ID. But 82% of Latino voters thought you should have voter ID. And 76% of black voters thought thought that voter IDs should be a requirement. Well, yeah, I think you’re exactly right.
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Yeah, I think a lot of these individuals look at this, and first of all, they’re insulted that you don’t think they have the ability to go get IDs to vote. I mean, that’s insulting to them to even say that in the first place. And by the way, it is insulting to say that because everybody out there can get an ID. It’s really not that hard, Josh, as you know. And then to to basically make it seem like, well, if you require voter ID, you’re hurting those that are disenfranchised or the poorest among us. Well, those same folks will come back and say, that’s demeaning to us to say that we have ID for all sorts of other things, and yes, we can have ID to vote as well.
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Well, it is demeaning. And you know, we’ve even seen in practice that people that say, That implementing some sort of voter ID is voter suppression. They’re just lying.
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Right.
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If you remember back to Georgia, right, when they passed SB 202, that increased the strength into the voter ID requirements in that state. Democrats from President Biden on down called it Jim Crow 2.0. That’s right. Major League Baseball removed its all star game from Atlanta. Right.
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Right. Right after Denver.
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They thought this was that’s exactly right. That’s exactly right. Because they said that this was going to be voter suppression. But what happened in the elections right after that bill was passed? Minority turnout actually increased. That’s right. And then they did polling of those minority voters. And universally, those voters said that the increased voter ID requirements were not an impediment in any way to them voting. So this narrative that voter ID somehow causes voter suppression… It’s just a lie these days. We’ve seen it in polling numbers, and we’ve seen it in practice.
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Yep. The fact of the matter is that’s a talking point used by a certain political party in this country. It literally is nothing more than a talking point. The people that they’re talking about when they say that, again, get very disgruntled and irritated at the fact that you don’t think they can get ID to vote and do lots of other things, which, by the way, they’ve got IDs anyway, so it’s really not that big of a deal. Bottom line, Josh, is it’s a talking point because they know that if you required some sort of voter ID, not that it cures all election problems that we have, but it cures a good portion of them because when you have to present an ID to vote, you can’t cheat.
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Well, that’s exactly right. You know, first of all, everybody talks about the need to clean our voter rolls, and that is so true. Well, the way to really clean voter rolls is to verify votes. identification before people get on the voter rolls in the first place.
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That’s exactly right.
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And then people talk about voter fraud. Well, the best way to clear up voter fraud is to have to present a valid ID when you show up to vote. So you’re right, it doesn’t clear up all election problems, but it solves a lot of the big ones.
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It is. And I look at it this way, Josh. And, you know, again, you’re an expert in this. I’m not. But to me, it’s one of those foundational things that if you do that and you get that part of it handled and all of a sudden everybody that votes is required to show some sort of, you know, government ID or they can’t vote and it has to be who that person is. In other words, things have to match up or you’re not going to vote. To me, that’s foundational. And again, not that it’ll cure everything else, but it’s such a great foundational thing that I do think that you’ll see some of the other things that we struggle with at times come into place, if you would. Again, not automatically because we’re doing voter ID, but you’ll just see some things get tightened up because of it.
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Well, that’s exactly right. You know, the big thing that people are concerned about right now with our elections is knowing who is voting. and how they’re voting. And at every step of the way, you should be required to show that documentation. You know, another thing that we haven’t talked about a lot, but mail-in voting and the ballots, what’s happening in Fulton County is a hot topic right now, and how those ballots were processed. Again, the big issue there is that The number of absentee ballots that were turned in didn’t match the number of people that were as recorded as voting by absentee. If you require a valid ID for everybody getting an absentee ballot, it just solves a lot of these problems.
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Right. Again, as you know, here in Colorado, we’ve had mail-in voting for quite some time, and you’ll hear those here in Colorado that are in charge tell you that it’s great, it’s perfect, and so on. It’s not. It has its flaws. We know what those flaws are. Those are things that need to be cleaned up in Colorado. And again, Josh, the things that you guys are talking about and doing in this conversation we’re having today, that’s just one step closer to in that way. And again, the reason why one side doesn’t want these things handled is because the more you handle this, the less you cheat.
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That’s exactly right. You always have to ask yourself, who benefits from chaos? And unfortunately, what we saw in 2020 and in some years after is weaponization of the election process. People manipulating what should be a basic transaction between a person and the government is to their electoral benefit. And that’s not the purpose of our elections. It’s not the purpose of voter ID. You know, if we’re going to have confidence in our results, we need to have confidence in the process. And implementing a strong voter ID law is a great way to increase confidence in the process.
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Texas Public Policy Foundation, how do they find you, Josh?
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They can find us on YouTube. We host a podcast with election integrity leaders. Just do a YouTube search for the Texas Public Policy Foundation Election Protection Project and check out what we’ve done on all of the hot election integrity issues across the country.
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Josh, I appreciate it. Thanks for your time today, sir. Learned a lot and I appreciate it. Thank you so much. You’re very welcome. Have a great rest of your day. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Great interview Al did of late. Stay tuned. We’ll be back right after that. You can always find Al by going to klzradio.com.
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OK, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening. OK, we had a conversation today and I did spent really almost the entire four o’clock hour on Tuesday talking about how to talk to especially young people when it comes to ice and things that are going on in Minneapolis and other places. And so I had a great hour, by the way, and had great comments from a lot of you as listeners, which I appreciated. One other thing I wanted to add to that. And there’s always more that continues to come up. But this, I think, again, you will, this can be, and I’ll explain how you can use this as a learning lesson. So let me explain. In Minneapolis right now, and most of you have seen this, and this is happening. In fact, I don’t know how many places it’s happening, but I know for sure it’s happening in at least one area, one neighborhood. And what’s happening is the protesters themselves are setting up roadblocks whereby they are checking IDs of individuals coming into that particular area, making sure that ICE, you know, no federal agencies are coming in. Which, okay, first of all, we’ll talk about how technically they don’t have the ability to do that. These are citizens. They don’t have the right to do so. They may think they do, but they don’t. But here’s what’s funny in this. Isn’t it ironic? that in doing what they’re doing, establishing a checkpoint to enter a particular area, they have, in effect, established a border. So they’re doing what they basically are accusing the Trump administration and ICE of doing. They’re doing themselves. In other words, we have a border in this country. Trump shut it down, didn’t allow people to come back and forth freely like it was happening under the previous administration, so the border was shut down. Trump is now going throughout the country. And as I’ve said many, many times, talked about it on National Crawford Roundtable, talked about it on Tuesday with Andy. I’ve been talking about it now for weeks. He’s literally going in ice. He’s having ice. He’s not doing it, but he’s having ice go into certain areas. By the way, most of these are going to be Democrat run areas because that’s where the sanctuary cities and states are. And he’s rounding up those worst offenders when it comes to illegal aliens, illegal immigrants, you know, those that have got some sort of a record, some have felonies, some have committed murder and so on, and he’s deporting them. And rightfully so, by the way. Now, again, there’s all sorts of protesters and agitators out there, you know, basically saying that shouldn’t be happening. And, you know, you’re all a bunch of racists because you’re doing this and so on. And by the way, nothing could be farther from the truth. The color of someone’s skin has nothing to do with whether they’re here illegally or not. And if they’ve committed crimes, especially, and they’re on that deportation list, okay, it is what it is. Again, I want you guys that have some of these situations with loved ones to ask them the question, these individuals, these protesters and agitators are setting up roadblocks whereby certain federal agents are not allowed in. Aren’t they doing the exact same thing they’re protesting against? In other words, they don’t want ICE and federal agents into certain areas of the city, so they’re going to set up roadblocks, do checks to make sure that those coming in are actually in the neighborhood. In other words, they belong in the neighborhood. And they’re not allowing those that they don’t feel belong in the neighborhood, i.e. federal agents in ICE, and they’re not allowing them in. I don’t know how that’s going when those folks actually show up. I’d like to see that video. But anyways, regardless, the premise here is or what’s happening is they’re effectively doing exactly what they’re protesting and agitating against. So I would like to know from the other side. How you deal with that? How do you explain that? I mean, you’re doing, they’re doing the exact thing they’re protesting against. How do they explain that? They’re establishing essentially a border around a neighborhood, but yet they don’t like the fact that we closed our border and we’re getting rid of people that aren’t welcome here. Nothing, no different than what they’re doing. I find it so hypocritical of these protesters and those that are against ICE that they would allow this to happen and they’re OK with this going on and having these roadblocks set up whereby you keep federal agents and ICE out. And yet they’re against ICE in doing what they’re doing for us as a country. This shows you the backwards thinking, you know, the moronic thinking, and I know you can’t say that to these individuals, but literally it’s moronic thinking that they have going on in believing that ICE is somehow doing something wrong because they’re deporting the bad guys. This, again, is brainwashing from the left. And what I just explained, I would love to hear somebody from that side, you know, rebut that and say, well, yeah, we’re doing that because you established a border and you’re not allowing certain people in that don’t fit into the neighborhood. How is it any different than what we’re doing? at the border here in the united states of america and then deporting those bad actors that are here that haven’t behaved and those are the ones we’re rounding up first and i i know there’s some of you out there thinking they should all be rounded up that’s a monumental task you know that’s wishful thinking on our part not going to happen not going to happen that’s wishful thinking so there’s no way you’re going to round up every illegal immigrant in the united states of america and deport them just not going to happen it’s a nice thought So in turn, what we’re doing is we’re rounding up the bad actors first, those that have, again, criminal records, those that shouldn’t be here because of, you know, didn’t come in legally in the first place, then they committed crimes. Those are going first, rightfully so. And yet we have folks on the left, agitators, but, you know, it’s even more than that because a lot of the people that are for these people and that are backing these people up and then accusing somebody like me of being a racist because of what I believe in when it comes to this, they’re getting support from those individuals, and it’s ignorant support. It’s support that’s not based upon facts. It’s support based upon emotion because they don’t like something that’s going on, but there’s nothing factual about it. In fact, they can’t prove factually what’s going on. And in most cases, when it comes down to proving something factual, they’ll call you a name. You’re a racist. You’re this. You’re that. And they won’t prove to you factually why they even feel what they do. And that’s the sad part because that means they’re not rational thinkers. They’re not critical thinkers. They’re not working through a process and determining why do I believe what I believe. They’re essentially believing it because that’s what they’ve been told to believe. And that’s a really dangerous place to be, by the way. Anytime a society gets to the point where they believe what they’re told, we’re in trouble. And folks, we’re in trouble. Because there’s a lot of folk out there in the country right now that are believing something just because they’re being told that it’s a certain way but haven’t done any fact-finding on their own to determine is it really that way or not. It’s our job. I feel my job to help instruct, give some ideas, give some tips and tricks, if you would, on how to talk to these individuals, on how you can counter some of that and educationally speak to them, not talking down to them, but just educationally speak to them to get them to understand what’s really going on. And again, the example I just gave of these ICE agitators that are blocking cars in the middle of the street, I’ve seen the video. There’s roadblocks set up. They won’t let certain people in. They are allowing certain people out. I mean, essentially, they’re putting a border in that they’re controlling. They have border security there, if you would. Call it ICE. I mean, the reality is they’re doing the exact same thing that they’re complaining against or that they’re protesting against. And again, when I see these things, I just thought to myself, how hypocritical, how ironic that you’re doing the very same thing that you’re protesting against. It makes no sense. You know, they want their cake and eat it too, basically. All right, Plumberoo’s. If you’re looking for a plumber that thinks like the guys in the past did, you know, the old plumbers where they’d come in, fix what was needed, not try to sell you on a bunch of stuff you didn’t need, that is Plumberoo’s. It’s Plumberoo’s.com, 72020.
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All right, a couple of clarifications on text messages that I’ve had coming in. In Colorado, it is lawful – make sure I use the right words here – for illegal immigrants to have a driver’s license in Colorado. Now, they’re labeled differently. I believe – don’t quote me on this, but I believe it says non-U.S. citizen or something, I believe, on the license itself. I’d have to get a picture to verify that, but – they can get a driver’s license, and yes, it will say, I’m pretty sure it says, you know, not a U.S. citizen. So somebody said, well, if they can get IDs being illegals, then how could they use that to vote? Because of what I just said. I’ll verify that, but I’m pretty sure that illegal immigrants that have driver’s licenses in Colorado, which is something that our Democrat legislature passed, Charlie, that’s been years ago now, by the way, it’s been many moons ago that they’ve been allowed to go to DMV and actually get a driver’s license. But I am almost 100% positive that it says non-US citizen on the driver’s license. So if they were going to go in and try to vote with that particular ID, of course, then you would know by looking at the ID that they cannot because they’re not a US citizen and they wouldn’t be able to register to vote and so on. So I’m personally not concerned about that. Am I concerned that they get a driver’s license in the first place? That is a whole other conversation, by the way. I personally feel like, no, they shouldn’t. But it’s the law we have in Colorado, and it’s the old elections have consequences, and I’m not going to change it. So, frankly, why talk about it? I, as a host, can talk about it until I’m blue in the face, and it’s not going to change anything in Colorado. In fact, I think you’d be hard-pressed to get that changed no matter who’s in power now. And I say that with all due respect to even those on our side that run for office. If we had total control, Republican, governor, House, and Senate, would we get that reversed? I doubt it. I doubt it. Because all the arguments would come in as to why we need to have that. And again, you’re not going to change it. So it just isn’t going to it’s not going to happen. Somebody also said for the Super Bowl halftime show, will the John Rush household watch Bad Bunny, Turning Point and Kid Rock or turn off the TV and pray? Folks, I can’t watch the Super Bowl without going someplace because I’m really cheap and I don’t have that service that allows me to. So I’ll go watch it someplace and I’ll be at the mercy of whatever they do there. And frankly, I don’t really have any stake in the Super Bowl itself. Don’t really care. I’ll probably be paying more attention to commercials that I can talk about on Monday as I will anything else. And the outcome of the game is no different to me. And I’ll just be straight up honest. I don’t care about the halftime show. Any of them. I’m sorry to say that. There’s nothing against TPUSA or Kid Rock or anybody else. Just frankly, I don’t care. I’ll probably feed my face during that time or something. I doubt if I’ll even watch any of that, period. And again, I’ll be at the mercy of wherever it is I go to watch the Super Bowl because I’m cheap and I don’t have satellite or cable or streaming services that will play that. I don’t subscribe to the NFL or do anything along those lines. So that’s not what I do. So it’s not… That’s not an issue. Somebody also said, don’t you need a picture ID to get SNAP benefits? That’s another one I can’t answer, folks. I don’t know. If any of you listening have ever been on SNAP or know anything about it, please let me know. And by the way, no judgment. I know individuals that have been down that path and have had to have you know, snap and health and so on, or snap and help, I should say, and things along those lines. Yeah, no judgment on my end. People go through all different times in their lives where things don’t go the way that they’re planned and they need help and so on, and there’s never any judgment on my end on that, especially those that have found a way to get out of that. I’m very respectful of those individuals, and really I love them dearly because they took themselves out of one particular situation and put themselves in a much better situation, and that’s the way it’s supposed to work. So, yeah, never any judgment on my end. So if you’re somebody that had to do that, you’re not going to hear me, you know, get after you or call you out on air or anything like that. But I honestly, I don’t know if you have to show a picture ID to get those types of benefits. That’s something that I know zero about. So I wish I could answer that for you. I’d have to look it up. But as I’m talking, I’m one of those where I have a hard time typing and talking at the same time. And when I’m by myself, that’s hard to do. All right, this is an interesting story, another one coming out of Minneapolis. So there’s an activist, Minneapolis activist known as Lavish Mac, and he’s now gone viral for a really bizarre claim. Probably I’ll talk about this tomorrow on Ready Radio, but he insists that ICE agents somehow used an EMP, a mini EMP, so an electronic magnetic pulse. I talk about that a lot on Ready Radio. to destroy his Toyota Prius battery while he was on Ice Watch. And now he’s asking for thousands of dollars in mutual aid to cover the repairs. So there’s a video out there where he claimed that ICE used the targeted EMP on his car, essentially killing over half of the 21 cells in his hybrid battery. He says, it’s been confirmed, quote, it’s been confirmed that ICE used an EMP in my Toyota Prius battery. If you know anything about Toyota Priuses, the battery’s made up of 21 cells. When just one of them is down to low, the battery is done. That’s a $3,000 battery and a $6,000 to $5,000 replacement. Not just one of my batteries was gone, but over half are absolutely now gone, nowhere. Nothing was ever wrong with the Toyota Prius prior to this. Sure. Again, as a car person doing drive radio like I’ve done now for almost three decades, sure, pal, whatever you say. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but no, this is one thing I can pretty much assure you of. ICE did not use any kind of a mini EMP on your Prius. They knew, just like I, that if you have an old enough Prius and you don’t take care of it, and just as time goes by, period, that battery’s going to die on itself, they don’t need to do a thing. It’ll just happen. And that probably is what happened to you, Lavish Mac. That’s his name, Lavish Mac. Again, folks, you look at some of these, just the stupidity that comes out of the left sometimes. And this really, this is just stupid. I’m sorry, I have no other words for it. This is just stupid. Anybody that’s been around cars at all, like myself, knows this guy, he’s a moron. He’s a knucklehead. He has no idea what he’s talking about. Now, he wants you to Venmo or Cash App or PayPal to lavish Mac just to help him get his battery. Now, here’s the sad part of this. There will be enough people brainwashed people, whereby they will cave in, they will help lavish Mac out when it’s all said and done. They’ll contribute to his Prius now being… sidelined with a bad battery, thinking that, yes, in fact, ICE did this. Folks, first of all, and again, I talk about this a lot on Ready Radio, I don’t think there’s even a device out there that will do that. That’s the first thing. Second of all, there were lots of comments on this particular post that I saw whereby people were saying, well, wait a minute, he was nearby and his cell phone and everybody else’s cell phone is still functioning and other electronic devices are still functioning and other cars are still functioning. How is it that just his Prius is bad? There’s nothing, nothing out there is that targeted. Nothing. So at the end of the day, I’m sorry to say, Lavish, Mac, you’re trying to look for a handout to fix your vehicle that most likely already had a battery going bad, and you probably knew that it was already going bad. It probably showed up on your screen that it was going bad. And whatever happened that day could be who knows what, coincidence, temperature, I don’t know, any number of things that just all of a sudden decided I’m done. Because, by the way, that’s how those things work. I mean, any of you that have had any kind of electronic devices know that, you know, sometimes it’s just all of a sudden, boom, it’s done. I’m not working anymore. I’m, you know, you turned me on the last time I was good, and now I’m not. And that’s how it works. Now, in his Prius, like I said a moment ago, he most likely had some warning signs on the front side that, yeah, things aren’t going well here. In fact, you probably should get me in for service. I guarantee you that car told him he needed service. Without a shadow of a doubt, I guarantee you. Meaning, he’s a liar. once again going back to teaching others that are involved in all of this ice and all the nonsense going on with it and so on and they’re very much against folks like myself and i’m the racist and so on here’s another story i gave you one a moment ago about the roadblocks and how basically they’re setting up their own border and yet basically protesting or they’re doing what they’re protesting against by setting up their own borders you know, setting up these roadblocks and such. And now you’ve got Lavish Mac, who’s, he’s just a liar. Out and out liar. So anybody, you know, I’ve got a lot of lefties that listen to me. Any of you that are on the left, how are you justifying these things? The roadblocks, for example, they’re basically putting in their own borders. How do you justify that? This knucklehead lavish Mac who’s lying about his car and really trying to skim off of those that are out there that will be dumb enough to give to him so he can get his battery replaced for free. Well, not free, but free to him. Those of you that are on the left, how do you sleep at night? How do you justify that? Because they’re all hypocrites and liars. All these agitators are just a bunch of hypocrites and liars. How do you reconcile that? That’s what I want to know. How does that work for you? Because they’re not truthful. The folks that are setting up roadblocks, they’re not truthful because they’re basically saying, oh, we can put a roadblock around the neighborhood, but we can’t have a roadblock and a border around the country. How ironic. And then you have Lavish Mac, who claims ICE somehow put an EMP out and destroyed his vehicle, and now he’s going to collect dollars through who knows what, GoFundMe, whatever. I don’t know how that works exactly, but he’ll get enough money to pay his $6,000, $7,000 battery replacement. And he, again, is a liar. Now, I’m not saying that everybody on our side of the aisle is truthful and doesn’t lie. That’s not what I’m saying. But in these situations, we’re not out doing what these guys are doing. We’re not out setting up roadblocks and then complaining about the border. We’re not claiming ICE destroyed our car and then cheating people out of hard-earned money because we’re too cheap to go fix this on our own. We’re going to lie about it and get somebody else to help us fix the vehicle. Guys, we don’t do that. Those of you that are on the left, you don’t hear these stories coming out of folks on the right. It doesn’t happen. Now, again, I’m not saying everybody on the right is perfect. No, there’s scam artists on the right just like there’s scam artists on the left. I get that. And by the way, I’ll call them out anytime from televangelist preachers that are milking their flocks to anybody that’s out there. I’ll call them out on that. I have no problem doing that, and I do it all the time. But in this case, it’s just really, really in your face that he’s now going to claim he’s an agitator. And he’s going to claim that ICE ruined his vehicle. And again, there’ll be a certain amount of people on that side that will back him on that, donate money to him to get the vehicle fixed and believe what he’s saying, even though he’s a liar. Flat out. Again, I can prove that by being the car guy that I am. He’s a flat-out liar. And yet, people on that side of the aisle will listen to that and buy into it some way, somehow. To me, literally, it’s laughable that people out there on that side will buy into that. I just don’t get it. Brad and Lakewood, hang tight. I’ve got a break we’re going to take. I’ll give you plenty of time when I come back. 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SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Brad and Lakewood, you’re next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, there’s a right and a wrong way to say you support your candidate and you oppose a the person that’s in office now, if Trump wants to go after Massey, that’s one thing. Why does he need to simply say, I don’t agree with Thomas Massey on these issues. Here’s why I think Andrew is better. Nope. Trump has to start insulting Massey’s wife, claiming she’s a liberal when she voted for Trump three times. He has to call Massey a loser. He’s anything but a loser. All that’s going to do is infuriate people like me to the point where you don’t want to go door-to-door stuff, almost, or make phone calls and Why Trump will attack Massey, Rand Paul, and MTG, but then he supports Lindsey Graham? Why can’t Trump, he’s acting like a five-year-old kid, like when he called that one woman horse face. Well, what’s with that guy? There’s a right and a wrong way to say you support your candidate and oppose the other candidate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you’re not going to change him.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know, well, what? All that doesn’t infuriate people like me. I called up Scalise’s office today because he’s pretty close to the president. And I told him I was extremely upset over this. And if Trump’s so worried about Massey’s one vote, why don’t we spend that $15 to $20 million to elect another 5, 10 other Republicans? Then Massey’s one vote wouldn’t matter.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, Brad, you bring up some great points. And as you know, there’s lots of things Donald Trump does that I don’t 100 percent agree with. Now, the one thing I will agree with Donald Trump on is I am not a Massey fan at all. I was an MTG fan at all. I’m glad she’s gone, to be frank. I wish she would have went ahead and served out her term, which is what she should have done being, you know, she’d have been a real conservative like she claims to be. She would have. But. But she didn’t. Regardless, it is what it is. And I’ve talked about and complained about Thomas Massey for years because he’s one of those guys to talk about constantly. And even Rand Paul can be a little bit this way. They’re so pure, they miss the point of what it takes to win. And that doesn’t help us as a party at the end of the day. And I think, you know, and again, truthfully, what I just said is what Donald Trump should be saying. He should say it exactly. Not that he’s a jerk, not that he’s a loser, not that his wife’s a loser or anything. But basically, he should say exactly what I just said. You’re so pure that you hurt us down the road when it comes to votes and other things that we need to move the country forward and the party forward. He hurts us in that. That’s what Trump should say.
SPEAKER 09 :
So on that one, two, 17 to two, 16 vote were massive over the Democrats. He should have got together with Trump and made a deal and say, look, I’ll vote for you. But we need to fix these issues like 57 Republicans voted to keep the kill switches in the car. Why doesn’t Trump get rid of that by executive order? I think he could do that or.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and again, that’s another one, Brad, that’s above my pay grade. I don’t know on that end of things, you know, one way or the other. I like you, though. I wish he would say things differently than he does. And my way of saying it a moment ago would really solidify and get the message out to a lot of other conservatives even that, you know, while Thomas Massey claims to be one, and he may very well be, he doesn’t help the conservative cause in the things that he does. And I would say it exactly that way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, how accurate are these betting markets? Because One day Massey’s at 75% or 77% winning. Now it’s 66%. Do you put much faith in those betting markets?
SPEAKER 03 :
I have no idea. I get the results of those on pretty much a daily basis, and I’ll be honest, Brad, I don’t even read them because I don’t know. I guess I should start tracking to see how accurate they are, but I don’t.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, no, and then it’s bad enough, like I said before, when the Christians and gun owners don’t vote in the major elections— Now, in the off-year elections, we have a bunch of people in the vote. We got beat real bad in Texas the other day, but a couple days before, a woman was on Bannon’s War Room saying 26,000 Republicans still hadn’t voted yet. And how are we going to get those people motivated? For instance, I sent Deb Fischer some money. I’m upset over some of her votes, but I still think I made the right decision because she’s far better off than any Democrat. But once they get in office, she can work with them. But there are certain people that I’m not going to vote under any circumstances, and there’s no way to reason with those people. Because that’s just a lost cause. That’s just something we’re going to have to learn to live with.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, on a positive note, we did win in Costa Rica the other day, and in Alabama there was a special election two days ago. I think the turnout was up 24%. Yeah, it was a red district that stayed red. So I think… And one sense it’s not that big of a deal, but if we’re up 24%, maybe people are starting to wake up and realize we need to start voting now.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. As we talked even a week or so ago, Brad, we’ve got a long haul into the midterms, economically speaking and so on. I still think a lot of where we end up is going to come down to that, even some of what Trump is saying right now. Honestly, by the time we get to November, most of that will be forgotten. It’s going to come down to the economy and how well are we doing that way when we get to the midterms.
SPEAKER 09 :
But Trump’s big mouth isn’t helping matters any because he doesn’t know how to properly express himself. Do you think that could cause us to lose the House? I’m starting to get kind of worried.
SPEAKER 03 :
No. My feeling is, going back to my statement a moment ago, as long as the economy does well, which I think it will, despite what a lot of the folks in the media and that are saying, because they’re naysayers. They want the economy to tank, and they’re going to try to do everything possible to make sure that it does. It’s not going to. Scott Garlis will join us at 5.30. He and I will talk about some of that a little bit. But, Brad, again, I think once there’s been a Fed chair already picked, you’re going to see some things change as soon as that Fed chair is in power, and it’s going to change the economy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, how are we ever going to get the SAFE Act passed? Because Thune doesn’t want to bring up the filibuster, like the standing filibuster or the new filibuster, where people don’t really have to stand in line and talk. Now, Luna and Tim Burchard said, we’re not going to advance this bill in the House unless the SAFE Act is attacked. And then the next day, they pulled the SAFE Act from it. So why Burchard and Luna said one thing one day and did something else the other day, And that’s their only chance of passing the SAFE Act is to attach it to must-pass legislation. And since Thune won’t budget, is there any hope for the SAFE Act?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and I agree. Now, I see they’re starting to collect signatures or push that progressive income tax in Colorado. It’s down to six categories. Now, I read on Google it’s going to be a hard sell, but do you think that will actually pass since MML passed or not?
SPEAKER 03 :
It depends on how they word that, and I haven’t seen the – I’ve not been presented with anything signature-wise, and I don’t know exactly what the actual bill is going to say. It depends on how it’s worded, Brad. You know that as well as I, and that’s my fear of when – for example, the Democrats are going to run a statewide bill to eliminate Tabor, and it’s going to be worded to help the kids and this, that, and the other. It’s going to fill in for schools and this, that, and the other, and at the end of the day – Depending upon how they word that, probably a high chance of that passing, and in a lot of cases, your TABOR refund will go away.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then we’d go to that progressive income tax as well, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and like you said, people accumulate a certain amount of money for a reason. Now, the other day, I had a CD at Furtz Bank, and not a huge amount, but I kept part of it open, and I’m sending the rest back to Minnesota, where I have my treasury bill, where I won’t have to pay a state income tax. Now, if I do it, how many other people are going to do the exact same thing?
SPEAKER 03 :
A lot. And that’s something that the other side doesn’t seem to understand, Brad. I mean, you would think by now they would get that, but they’re just so blinded by their own beliefs, I guess, that they don’t understand what you just said. They don’t understand that if you make things hard enough for the rich, they leave.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
They just don’t stay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree, and is it simply because they hate Donald Trump or they hate rich people?
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it’s both. I think, to your point, yes, they hate Donald Trump. They have Trump derangement syndrome, and they hate anybody that’s wealthy, even though a lot of them are. I mean, it’s so funny, Brad. It’s almost like, well, I made my money, but you can’t have yours, so we’re going to tax you to make sure that you don’t have any.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, unfortunately, that’s true. Now, getting back to Texas, there’s District 31 where Trump is endorsing this guy, John Carter— He’s 84 years old, and Valentina Gomez went up and tried to ask him a few questions, and this John Carter was in worse shape than Joe Biden, yet Trump still supports him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I really wish, and I’ve said this before, and I know it’s part of the presidency and so on, but like me, as a host, I wish he just wouldn’t endorse anybody. I get it. I get why they use that and so on, and it helps some candidates at times, but Brad, I really wish he just wouldn’t do it at all, period.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because a lot of people think Trump’s endorsements… help the person he’s trying to… Sometimes they hurt. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
I wish he’d quit doing it. I mean, that’s part of his ego, if you ask me, and I wish he would not do that. I wish he’d be more like me. I don’t endorse anybody ever.
SPEAKER 09 :
So who are you supporting for governor? Have you made up your mind yet?
SPEAKER 03 :
Even if I did, I wouldn’t say anybody for the same reason I just said that a moment ago, Brad. I don’t endorse anybody. I look at them all equally, and we get to the primary. Whoever wins, I’ll be behind them, and I’ll push that as much as I can to make sure that we can get somebody elected from our side of the aisle. But I have no dog in that fight at all right now.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I don’t think Victor Marx is helping his case any by ducking seven debates in a row.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I mean, I’ve talked about the debate thing. You know, we’ve got a couple of minutes left here. I’ve talked about the debate with Victor. My biggest concern with Victor isn’t so much the debates, because, frankly, I don’t think those amount to anything when it’s all said and done. Only the hardcore Republicans in this state care about debates. And, frankly, Brad, I’m a hardcore Republican, and I still don’t care about the debates. I think they’re worthless. I think, frankly, I don’t know why you even do them. I think it’s for a lot of the ego of the candidates that are running. I don’t think at the end of the day anybody really learns anything. They might learn something in – Frankly, you could learn that on a campaign trail and having conversations with them anyways. Reality, Brad, my biggest complaint with all of them, to be honest with you, other than maybe just a couple that have been on my program, they don’t come on air enough. Victor Marsh doesn’t come on air enough. The rest of them don’t come on air enough. They think they’re bigger than I am, and the program is, and they don’t need us. And I think that’s a slap in the face. And if there’s anything I’m critical about the candidates on, it’s that. Including him, including Victor.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because a few years ago when Walker Stapleton was running for governor, I approached him at one of this meeting and I asked him why he wouldn’t go on this particular radio show. And he got real upset with me and said, I only got X amount of days left and I have to listen to my advisors. And I felt like telling him the reason Trump won. is because he didn’t listen to his advisors. The reason Romney lost is he did listen to his advisors.
SPEAKER 03 :
And to Walker’s credit, he’s a guy that came on my program more than once. I got along well with him. And again, my complaint with some of these folks, even the Victor Marx’s of the world right now, is they don’t look at radio as being anything effective to help them with their campaign. and won’t come on air, and I think they’re fearful that I might throw something at them that they can’t answer, which you know me, Brad. I’m always respectful of everybody that comes on the program, but to me, that’s the biggest disappointment I have in the likes of Victor.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. Well, that’s about all I have.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ll leave it at that. No, Brad, great conversation. I always enjoy when you call in, learn a lot, and you make me think, and I appreciate that greatly. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. And again, Dave can help you extend the life of your roof these warm days like we had today. He can do the RoofMax treatment, therefore saving you up to, or I should say, extending the life of your roof up to 15 years and saving you money at the same time. 303-710-6916.
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And one last little article before we finish out this hour. Washington Post, Bezos, Amazon owner, as you all would know, they are closing their sports department, cutting other sections, and they are having huge sweeping layoffs because I guess they’re probably not making any money. Not shocked at that because it’s such a rag of a site and paper and so on that I’m not shocked at that. But, yeah, there are huge layoffs coming. And journalists are mad, by the way. They’re mad at Bezos for actually doing this, and I guess they figure that he can just keep pouring money into something that he’s a businessman. He’s going to have it make money or he’s not going to do it. So that’s what business people do. We’ll be back. Hour 3 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Thank you. The Rich Guy.
