In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush sits down with Chris Ullman of Eagle Forum to break down the proposed Chloe Cole Act—legislation that could dramatically extend the statute of limitations for minors who undergo medical procedures and later seek legal recourse.
The conversation explores both the moral and financial implications of the bill, including how extended liability could reshape malpractice insurance, influence hospital decisions, and impact the broader healthcare system.
John also examines the issue from a business perspective, raising questions about how risk, insurance costs, and legal exposure could drive real-world change faster than policy alone.
00:01:08 Interview with Chris Ullman on the Chloe Cole Act
00:13:48 Opinion on Near-Death Experiences and Paranormal Claims
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Okay, hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Chris Ullman joining us now, president of Eagle Forum. Chris, welcome. How are you?
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I am doing great. It’s great to talk to you.
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Thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. Talk to us about the Chloe Cole Act.
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Well, the Chloe Cole Act is a very important bill that will offer children who have suffered medical intervention at the hands of butcher doctors to sue their doctors for bodily mutilation. way past what is currently the statute of limitations. Right now, if you’re harmed by a medical provider, you only have between two and three years to sue that person for damages. And what we’re seeing in the transgender space is a lot of these young people are 12, 13, 14 years old, up to 16 or so when they have these surgeries. They’re lied to about the doctors. They’re lied to about the risk. um they’re assumed to be able to give consent to become sterile for the rest of their lives which they’re way too young to consent and they often realize this after the statute of limitations is passed so what the chloe cole act does is it gives 25 years for people to sue the doctors that do these harms to them And what we’ve seen is that the one case where a detransitioner has won against their medical provider, that immediately caused two health associations to reconsider what they were recommending for kids.
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Well… And here’s my take on that. And I think if this act proceeds and passes, here’s my take from the business sides of things, not necessarily from you guys’ standpoint on the whole detransitioning and so on, which I’m on that side as well. But I’m just looking at this from strictly the business aspect. I guarantee you. The reason why some of these other folks pulled out isn’t because they’re on our side and they don’t want to see these kids transitioned. It’s because of the insurance sides of things and how expensive malpractice is going to get and or will you even have malpractice insurance when it’s all said and done. If this proceeds and it’s 25 years, I can tell you right now, Chris, that the whole insurance world will change in that regard.
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Absolutely. And, you know, you don’t… You know, we obviously come across this as from a very moral standpoint. This is wrong to do to children. Absolutely. A lot of people do. But what we’ve seen is the financial implications for hospitals and doctors to do this because of the gender ideology is so great that. They’ve all bought into it. But when you have the American Association of Plastic Surgeons, the American Medical Association coming out after one lawsuit that they lost and saying, wait a second, maybe this isn’t good business. Maybe we’re going to lose a lot of money. And so that’s really the key to this Chloe Kohl Act. Now, there’s other bills out there that will ban these surgeries, right? across the country, and states have done it on the state level, Alabama, Tennessee, others, and that’s great. But this really hits them where they hurt. Well, it does.
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I think, truthfully, Chris, I think this is the right approach because, again, coming at this from the business sides of things, if you’ve got exposure now as a medical provider for 25 years and you need malpractice insurance that’s going to carry that risk, for that amount of time. Yeah, that’s going to get, first of all, it’s going to get super expensive. Most insurance providers will just say, yeah, we’re not doing it anymore. So you’re no longer going to perform these particular procedures because we’re not going to insure you for that. Here’s my fear. And I said this the other day on air, and this is something for you guys to think about at the Eagle Forum. Here’s my fear. We have enough folks in politics, unfortunately, Congress, whereby and depending upon who’s president what we have as far as all that is concerned if in fact we get to the point of what i just said happens which i believe it will if something like this passes my fear is you’re going to have government then come in and do the insurance yeah well that’s my fear with the wrong administration and the wrong people in government
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And what you’re already seeing now, of course, is that there are states that are mandating this coverage in insurance policies. We already have that now. But what the lawsuit, Fox Varian in New York, when she argued that she was not mature enough to consent. And so and we’ve seen in a handful of states that they are extending this deadline to sue. There are 28 active lawsuits around the country. But the issue here really is if we can make it. go across the country is that this is medical malpractice and then those insurance companies are going to start saying wait a second yep and i don’t know if i want to do this i agree um and we have to elect better leaders who aren’t going to wipe out the liability but it’s hard to wipe out um medical malpractice liability.
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And the other thing that could happen along these lines, and this is where, again, by the way, all of this needs to happen. This act needs to pass. We’ll learn here in a minute how folks can help along those lines, but yeah, it needs to pass. And I could see either one or two things happening. What I just said, whereby the federal government, per se, comes in and sets up some sort of a a insurance, which is hard. I don’t know whether they could. I don’t know the legalities of that, whether constitutionally that could even happen or not. Now, what I do know could happen is you could see, like we see in the abortion world, you could see some states saying, guess what? We will make sure that we have a fund here. in the state that will ensure you doctors that want to go ahead and do this. And here’s my take on that, Chris. That, again, even if they do, that still gets people to think a lot more about, wait a minute, I’ve got to go to a whole different state to get this done, even if it’s allowed to do that there, and I won’t be able to sue. And if I do sue, there’ll be insurance, you know, malpractice insurance to be able to handle that. I can think it’s just another roadblock, if you would, whereby these individuals, parents and kids start thinking a little bit more about that
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Absolutely. And the other thing is perhaps medical providers will have to be a little bit more honest about the long-term consequences. Absolutely. They’re not telling parents now that your child will be sterile forever, that your child will be a medical patient forever. They say this will keep your kid from killing themselves forever. Oh, there are very little complications. But what we see from some of these people who have had these operations is they are lifelong patients. That’s right. Not to be gross, but oozing wounds for years, infections, all kinds of stuff. They are not being told about the complications. That’s right. And this is the information. When parents have all that information… Where it’s not just a quick and easy fix and they realize, wow, am I really going to subject my kid to this forever at 14? Maybe wait until they’re 21, 22 where they can make their own mind up. It’s all about protecting kids at their most vulnerable.
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Fully agree. No, this is great. And again, this is something that we need to be more focused on. I think it’s a – well, I’ve said this for numerous years, Chris. It’s unfortunately we’ve got parents that think this is a vogue thing to have their kids transitioning, which has got to be one of the dumbest things I think I’ve ever heard in my entire life. But that’s what some of these parents do. Parents should be charged with child abuse. Again, that’s a whole other conversation. Don’t get me started on all of this because it’s just ridiculous. And I’m with you. I’m like, okay, if you want to be of age, 21, let’s say, you have to be 21 to drink. You have to be 21 to do all sorts of other things in this world. 21 years of age to buy a pistol, for example. I mean, there’s all sorts of things we put rules and regulations in for already as far as age is concerned, and yet we let folks transition at a very early age because some parent or doctor or school administrator or or school counselor is advising them to do so.
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Absolutely. And I can’t, uh, repeat enough times about if you put a 12-year-old on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, you end up with somebody like Chloe Cole who says her jawline is forever changed, her facial features, her bone structure, her Adam’s apple, her voice will forever be lower no matter what she does because at that age when the body is developing, You pump those cross-sex hormones in. Forget about the surgery. You are doing lasting damage. That’s right. You are potentially sterilizing your kid forever. And parents, some parents think it’s cool or it’s vogue, but a lot of them don’t realize it’s forever. They’re told it’s reversible. And so they say, oh, this is cool. My kid’s thinking about this. They don’t realize what they’re doing. And the truth has to come out. And the people who are lying need to be held responsible. And that’s our push with this is we’ve got to make sure the doctors and hospitals are being held responsible.
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Fully agreed. All right, Chris, how do we help? What do we do?
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Well, you can go to EagleForum.org, which is our website. And I would encourage everyone to call your members of Congress, call your senators and This language is being included in the Save America Act as an amendment, the language that will protect kids with allowing them to sue and also just banning these procedures. Both of those provisions are in this bill. I know you’re in Colorado. It’s a little tough with your senators, but your senators need to hear this. that this is important, that you know what’s in it, and that you want them to support the right of these children to go after the people that harm them.
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Well, I sure appreciate it very much. We will do our best on our end. We’ll keep talking about this as well. Chris Ullman, again, president of Eagle Forum. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
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All right. Thanks so much.
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Excellent. We always have those posted when he does those on klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks again.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate it greatly. And an article that popped up that wasn’t in my notes, but I’m going to talk about this because this stuff bugs me. And I know, and some of you are going to agree with me and some of you are going to disagree with me. This is coming out of the New York Post. Woman says… Her near-death experience gave her paranormal powers. She now can predict deaths and see ghosts. Yeah, no, she can’t. Hogwash. I’m calling BS on this one. Now, it sounds like a scene straight out of The Sixth Sense that says, after having a near-death experience in her early 20s, Louisa Peck says that she now has paranormal powers. One too many New York City partying nights led Peck down the wrong path, drinking heavily, abusing drugs. One night while clubbing, she overdosed on a laced drug and went into cardiac arrest, causing her to have a miscarriage. grand mal seizure and loose consciousness. Slipping into a death-like experience was where she shot up into the sky like a character punched by Popeye. She recalled the need-to-know feeling that she landed on a new land where her body slipped away and she was just able to fly and meet her ancestors. Yeah, she was dreaming. Sorry, she didn’t meet anybody. I could sense my ancestors’ joy at my coming to join them and felt honored to do so, though in life I’d never cared a bit about my ancestors, she told Need to Know. I could sense my ancestors’ joy at my coming to them and felt honored to do so, though in life I’d never cared about them. She described this experience as a blissful state, unaware of time passing. During this unconscious state, she recalled hearing a voice calling her back to earth, telling her, you can’t stay, you’re not done yet, which is when she woke up to the club’s bartender performing CPR on her. Eventually, she regained consciousness, refused an ambulance, got a taxi home, and tried to pretend that nothing ever happened. But after that, her life was forever changed. She soon realized that she had newfound powers, such as the ability to predict deaths and see ghosts. I was determined to settle back into normal life as if it had nothing ever happened, and the experiences had meant nothing, but my spirit energy deflectors had been permanently damaged. In 1987, she said she saw the ghost of an old man emerging from a swamp while on a beach. A few years later, she predicted that her unborn nephew would make it to full term, which she was right about. Her intuition spoke to her in other ways, like knowing a stranger’s name before being introduced to the person and so on. So 40 years later, she’s now 65. She blames the after effects, I should say, not on the near-death experience itself that proved to me the coexistence of a spiritual plane. I now believe intelligence and love are one and that they manifest as the entirety of the universe, including life. And she’s full of nonsense. Sorry. I mean, there’s times I just wonder, and I get it. This is a lifestyle piece in the New York Post. But sometimes I read these things and I just, first of all, I’m wondering, why am I reading this garbage? But then I’m thinking, well, everybody else does. And people believe in this nonsense. There’s actually people out there that believe that what she’s saying is true. And she’s a nut job. And no, none of that happened. I mean, she may have actually experienced something and seen something, or she thought she saw something, but let me tell you what, she didn’t. It just doesn’t work that way. You guys all know, I am not somebody that believes in any, any of that paranormal nonsense, because that’s exactly what it is. No, I don’t believe in ghosts. They don’t exist. Period. Period. Now, is there demons and things like that, and can Satan do all sorts of things along those lines? Absolutely he can. Yes, that I do believe in. But are there things as ghosts and ancestors and people that come and haunt you and, you know, ghosts from the past and so on? Yeah, no. Sorry. It’s all in our imagination. It doesn’t happen. It’s not even scriptural, so it’s not there. Yes, you can talk to demons and do things along those lines, and there’s the occult and so on, and yes, I believe very much in all of that, and that’s stuff you should never mess with. That’s a whole other conversation, but that’s not this. Where I feel, though, and why I want to talk about this is I think these sorts of stories, or I feel these sorts of stories can make people go down paths when it comes to demonic things and the occult and so on, whereby they wouldn’t go down that path if it wasn’t for these sorts of stories. It makes them want to believe in things that aren’t there, but then as they start searching, they end up going down paths that take them to very demonic places. That’s my point. And it’s not things you should mess with. I’m one of those where I don’t think you should ever own a Ouija board or anything along those lines, period. That stuff, you just run away from that crap, period. That is not good juju at all. Did you ever play with a Ouija board when you were a kid, Charlie, ever? He said no. You were like me. You weren’t allowed to, right? Charlie’s raising his hand like I can’t even talk about it. Yeah, I didn’t either. We were not allowed to have that stuff around. because there’s things there that you shouldn’t be involved in, period. And I’m one where there’s no such thing as palm readers and the tarot cards and all these people. I mean, there might be people that are possessed and or that work with Satan, and he can know certain things, and he’s got demons that can give him certain information upon you and so on, and that’s how some of those people will do things. But even then, most of the time, those people are just hoaxes. They’re just getting you to say certain things and they feed off of what you’re telling them and they give you the information back and it’s just a bunch of hooey. And they just charge you a bunch of money for it. There’s no such thing. So, no, I don’t believe in psychics. I don’t believe in any of that nonsense. Are there demon-possessed people? Yes. Are there psychics? No. No. No, not at all. I’m one of those that believes everything can be explained unless it’s some sort of a demonic thing. And no, I don’t believe in aliens and UFOs. That’s why I think Tucker Carlson is a weirdo and won’t listen to a thing he says. Anyways, that’s a whole other conversation. All right, let’s do this. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. We’ll take a break. Come back. I’ve got more to talk about. Half an hour left of the show. And at Roof Savers of Colorado, they can extend the life of your current roof by up to 15 years, saving you money year after year after year. 303-710-6916.
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Okay, the last subject I talked about, I did get a text message that said, do I believe this? And so it was an article that somebody sent me coming out of the dailystandard.com talking about show of faith. That’s the article. For Osgood movie project, faith is part of the deal. And essentially this is talking about a Ohio film director along with an expansive business development team or development movie based on the story of a local woman answering God’s call to build a restaurant and the ministry around it. Oz Good, a movie detailing Karen Holman’s mission to evangelize in the fundraising phase, says Alan Forrest, writer and director. Karen built this restaurant to not be one denomination. It’s been told to her to give this gift to everyone if it’s there to draw people closer to God because his churches aren’t being filled like they used to. And basically it’s a story about this particular lady and how she heard a actual voice speaking to her on what to do so i think the question is do i believe those sorts of things can happen yes yeah that i believe does it happen often no i don’t think it does i think there are certain circumstances where certain individuals and i’ve known some over the years whereby they hear an audible voice is it you know god himself is it an angel speaking to them? Is it some sort of a messenger from God? Is it the Holy Spirit himself speaking through a voice? Folks, I don’t know. I’ve never heard an audible voice from God speak to me. Maybe I’m not spiritual enough. I don’t know, but I never have. And I’ve known people, though, that I know very well. I know their character. I know of, you know, I just have known them for years, and I know that They experienced that. Charlie, you probably have known folks along those lines as well. And I’m not going to discount that effort. I’m not going to say that that didn’t happen because, yes, I do believe, in fact, that that can happen. So, yes, I mean, to answer the question, do I believe that that’s something that can happen? Yes, I do believe that can happen. Do I think it happens on a routine basis? No, I don’t think it happens on a routine basis. I also want to add this in. Do I think that makes those people more spiritual and or closer to God than someone else that doesn’t hear an audible voice? No. No, I don’t think it does. It just – it is what it is. I don’t think it makes that person any more – any better of a Christian, a person, anything along those lines than it does anyone else. It doesn’t mean at that point in time they were closer. You know, I don’t know. In fact, here’s how I’ve always kind of looked at that. Those that do what they’re supposed to do and have a oneness and a closeness to God, period, without having an audible voice, might actually have more faith than the person that heard the audible voice and then followed suit with whatever that voice said to do. You catch what I’m saying there? In other words, the first person’s working completely off of faith— Where the second person, yes, it’s faith, but then they also had something added to that that made it more real to them than even the first person did. And I hope I’m saying that in the right manner. I’m using the right words there. So anyways, bottom line, do I believe those things can happen? Yes. And Charlie just agreed with me a moment ago. He knows people that have experienced that as well. Now, again, as I have said already, do I think it happens on an ongoing basis, even with those people? I’ve known people where they heard it one time and one time only. It wasn’t something they heard, you know, day in, day out, weekend, week out, year in, year out. It was a one-time thing. And in some cases, it was a call to action of something. Like in this case, build a restaurant to do X. Okay, great. Again, there’s other people out there. I’m sure some of you have been listening probably. I’ve got a large enough listening audience. Some of you probably have had similar experiences. So, yeah, I’m not going to discount that. My point with the last experience, and somebody asked me, did I pick that article up in the grocery aisle? No, I did not. You know, how the old Enquirer or whatever it was, the National Enquirer and, you know, whatever those were, you know, those were always in the, you know, what are those called, tabloids, Charlie? The tabloids, they were always in the checkout aisle. And even as a young boy, I would read the headlines and I would ask my mom, is that real? And she’d be like, no, no, son, that’s a, you know, that’s a tabloid or that’s a whatever. And I was always wondering, okay, well, then why is it there? You know, again, I was one of those kids that was very inquisitive, even at, you know, seven, eight, nine years of age, whatever. I mean, I would read that and I would say, wow, there’s actually a UFO with two heads? I mean, you remember the National Enquirer as of old? There’d be all sorts of things in there about this person dating that person or this person’s dating a UFO. I can still remember some of those headlines. And, you know, I’d get in the car and I’d ask my mom, you know, is that really real? And, of course, they’d say no. And then I’d wonder, okay, well, then why is it in the checkout aisle at the supermarket? Well, I was too young and naive to understand. Well, that’s where people are picking that stuff up. And it’s a tantalizing type article. So they’ll buy it just for the I guess for the fictional part of it. And off they go. I suppose like you would read any other fiction story or you watch certain movies that are fiction based, I guess. But, yeah, as a young boy, I always wondered on those particular stories, A, why were they there, and did people actually buy and read that stuff? And the answer was, yeah, they did. Charlie, was there ever anything in those that were true? Did they, like, take some truth to some of those stories and embellish upon that, or – He says he doesn’t know. Folks, I don’t either. I have no idea. It was the Star and the National Enquirer. Am I saying that right, Charlie? I think it was both of those that were the tabloids that you’d see as you were checking out in the supermarket. And now we have regular mainstream media that acts much the same way. So all we did was go from the tabloids to mainstream media doesn’t act much different at times. And folks, I’m not joking when I say what I just said. Literally, we have mainstream media that doesn’t act at times much different than what those tabloids of old, I mean, when I was a kid, keep in mind the years I’m talking about, that would have been early 70s, where I was reading those things at that time, you know, in the checkout lane. And there were times where, even I think a little bit older, I would actually buy them just to see what was inside and read the nonsense that was in there. And sometimes it was just good fun. It just made for a lot of fun. So, yeah, anyway, back to my original story coming out of the New York Post. Yeah, I don’t believe that lady at all, but the text message I just got, yes, I do believe that those are real things. So thank you, by the way. I appreciate that very much. This is an interesting article that Joe sent me. And This is a 2022 California passed AB 2571, which prohibited the publishing of gun advertisements in any publication. Kind of goes along with the publication theme that I was just talking about that might be seen by minors. AB 2571 was first challenged by Junior Sports Magazines, Inc., which publishes Junior Shooters Magazine, which focuses on firearms related activities and products. They were joined in the action by CRPA and a collection of other Second Amendment rights advocates. After losing several court decisions, the state of California agreed to stop trying to defend the law in court and agreed to pay the plaintiff’s attorneys $1.4 million in fees and court costs. That’s a win, folks. That’s a huge win. Now, some would say, well, John, wait a minute. You think it’s okay to advertise guns to young people? Yeah, actually I do. Absolutely do. In fact, I think part of the problem we have at times with young people and guns is they’re not exposed to them young enough. We don’t teach them what they do. We don’t expose them soon enough to how they actually work, how you should handle them, how they can be a real good tool or they can be used in a very dangerous manner. We don’t teach kids the way I was raised. Now, was I raised 100% correctly? No, my folks made mistakes just like anybody made mistakes, just like I made mistakes as a parent, just like you guys all as parents have made mistakes. No one’s perfect. My folks weren’t either. But I’ll tell you one thing. Did I understand what a gun did and have respect for and know exactly what to do or not do with one? Absolutely I did. I will credit my dad and mom both, but my dad especially with that. He exposed us at a very young age. I think the first time I probably shot an actual firearm, not a BB or pellet gun, but an actual firearm, I wasn’t much older than five, six years of age. maybe seven at the oldest. My brother was probably five or six, and he was a little younger than me. But I actually experienced it before he did. And together, as time went by, we went to the shooting range with my dad a ton. And we hunted and fished and did all sorts of outdoor activities. And my dad taught us at an early age what guns did and what they were going to be used for. And we were taught how to handle them. My brother and I both went to Hunter Safety at a very young age. I think I was 12 and my brother would have been 10 at the time. We both did Hunter Safety at that time, which Hunter Safety back then was more than just Hunter Safety. They taught us a ton about how to survive and not necessarily about guns. The gun portion was actually the smallest portion. How to survive was the biggest portion. Partly why Ready Radio and I on Fridays is such a close thing for me is because I think people should know how to survive. And how to handle things. We do that show every Saturday from 2 to 3. I talk about it a lot, but it’s the show that I talk about. It’s the how to handle the what ifs of life. And we talk about a lot of different things. Last week talked about scams. Speaking of, really quick. Sorry, I got to add this in. I just reminded myself of something. I was talking to Dave Hart this morning. Then it came out later on – this has been all over the place. It’s been on all the major news stations. Colorado State Patrol has put this out as well. Dave Hart actually got this particular scam via text message, and it literally is a picture of a – looks like an official letter. that is sent out via text message that looks like you’re now going to be summoned for, in this particular case, a toll violation. And, man, they have got this thing to where it looks about as official as official can be, other than it’s the wrong state seal. And the address, Charlie, you’ll laugh at this one. Here’s the address. Denver County Court, 1667 Banpok Street. Instead of Bannock, it’s Banpock. So they didn’t even spell the street correctly. And that was the first thing that Dave noticed. But there’s several other things. There’s a QR code, by the way, that really what they’re wanting you to do is go to the QR code, which then takes you to you’re just getting scanned from that point forward. So, please, if you’re getting any of these in your inbox, email, text messages, delete, get rid of, ignore. It’s not official. It’s not real. First of all, something from the city of Denver is never going to come with a state seal of Colorado on it. The whole thing is bogus. But, man, they make it look really real. So please, pass this around. Make sure nobody else is getting scammed. What made me think about that was we did scams on Ready Radio this last Friday, and then I was talking to Dave about some things this morning, and he told me all about that. Soren, you’re next. Go ahead, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, so in the first hour, you were talking about how Iran and the other countries, how the other Arab countries treated them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ve been taking an Islam class at school. And what’s really interesting is over here in America, we’re taught that most of the Muslim countries are all Muslim countries like each other in the fact that they’re all Muslims. But Iran is the outlier in the fact that it’s mainly a different type of Muslim, which is the Shia Muslim. And according to the Quran, they’re viewed as heretics. And so they’re Every Muslim is commanded to kill a heretic. And so technically, I wouldn’t be surprised if all of these other countries would love it if the U.S. took out Iran because that would fulfill their duty.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I can see that. You’re bringing up a great point, Soren, and that’s where they have had arguments over the years and continue to argue, and that’s where if we ever could team up with the Kurds, and I’m not sure exactly what will happen there, but no, you are correct. And it is an arm of Islam that even the rest of the Islamic states, quote-unquote, don’t care for, don’t like, and would love to see go away.
SPEAKER 15 :
In fact, they hate them.
SPEAKER 13 :
They do. They do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Iran, Shias and Sunnis hate each other.
SPEAKER 13 :
But what’s interesting, Soren, is they do, although you’ve never seen the other, my point earlier was you’ve never seen these other Arab countries openly come out against them in the way that they’re doing right now. Normally, you know, the Arabs will still stick together, even though they may not agree on the things you and I are talking about. They’ll still somewhat stick together. But I think what’s happened is the other countries are just now finally fed up. They’re done.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they’ll stick together at least to show the West that Islam is… That’s right.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. But at this point, Soren, I think they finally have gotten to the point where they’re just, we’re done. We’re not doing this anymore. We’re finished.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. I’ve had to read a ton of bin Laden’s writings, and the difference between bin Laden talking to America and bin Laden talking to every other Muslim country is insane. Wow.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve never read any of that, so you’re one up on me there, because I have no idea. I’ve never read anything along those lines.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that’s interesting. I’ve probably had to read more about Islam than anybody should ever be subjected to.
SPEAKER 13 :
And as you know, because you’ve now read about it, there’s a lot going on there that the press, the news media, never tells you. Because they don’t know and understand either, Soren.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, everybody says that there’s peaceful Muslims. Well, no. Islam as a whole is just a religion of violence.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
In Quran 9-5, it says to go out into the world and kill the polytheists until the last day, and that means everybody.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. You’re 100% correct. And what you just said are things you’ll never hear spoken about publicly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Well, there’s a reason for it. They don’t want to make Islam look bad because a lot of the world’s going that way.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and as I’ve always said, I even hate calling Islam a religion, because really it’s a political ideology. It’s a way of thinking. It’s not necessarily a belief system, a faith, a religion. It is, you’re going to do this and think this way, or you’re not a part of us and we’ll kill you. One of the two.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yeah. Jihad is commanded by the Quran very clearly, and if you don’t If you do not go on jihad, you are considered a very bad Muslim.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. You’re proving what I just said a moment ago. It’s not a religion. It’s a political ideology. We need to quit calling it a religion. In fact, I think it’s a big mistake that we’ve made over the years here in America, because we then allow them to have freedom of religion. But really what we’re doing, Soren, is we’re giving them freedom for their own political ideology, which is to overthrow the United States of America.
SPEAKER 15 :
And, yeah… In the Quran, it says that you can buy, cheat, steal, do whatever you need to in order to take over a different country. Now, that means that they can say, oh, we aren’t being – we aren’t – Bad Muslims. We don’t hurt people. We don’t believe in what al-Qaeda believes. No, they fully believe in that.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s right. That’s right. You’re 100% correct. Keep learning, keep growing, keep spreading that around, too, Soren, because especially folks among your age, most people, most adults don’t even know what you just said. Nonetheless, the age group that you’re in.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, there’s a really good guy who compiled all the books that we’re reading. His name is Raymond Ibrahim, and he has a YouTube channel where he talks about all of that stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I think I go back in my notes and look. I think we’ve actually interviewed him in the past here, Soren. It’s been several years ago, but I believe we’ve interviewed him in the past.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, he’s a really smart dude.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, very much so. No, you keep reading and keep sharing that, Soren. You do that, please.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Thanks for all that you do and for all your faithfulness to us as well. I mean that, Soren. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning coming up next. Make sure, again, you’re dialed in when it comes to your AC because you’re going to have that on here later in the week, I’m sure. You can do that by going to Cub Creek’s website. You can find that at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, my wife wanted me to start doing a segment. It’s just been her idea for a long time now. Things that make you go, hmm. And there’s even some music that Charlie will start playing. I’ll start doing this once a week. So I have one today. And I don’t know exactly when it’s going to be each week, but I’m going to start kind of sprinkling these through. And this is definitely one of these stories that makes you go, hmm. Dayton Weber, who’s 27, a professional cornhole player, is accused of fatally shooting 27-year-old Braddock Michael Wells during an argument in La Plata, Maryland. Police say Weber shot Wells inside of a car, then drove off with the victim’s body before it was later found in a yard in Charlotte Hall. Weber was arrested at a Virginia hospital and faces first and second degree murder charges as he awaits extradition to Charles County. But here’s the catch. He’s a double amputee, has no arms and legs. So, again, things that make you go, hmm. So he is accused of shooting and killing Bradrick Michael Wells during an argument. Police say Weber was in his Tesla SUV car. When he shot Wells in the passenger seat, then pulled over, asked two backseat passengers to help pull him out of the car. They refused and got out of the car before calling the police. Weber then fled the scene with Wells still in the car. Wells’ body was then found in a yard on Newport Church Road in Charlotte Hall, Maryland. Wells was pronounced dead at the scene. Weber was located by police at a hospital in Charlottesville, Virginia. He was arrested and charged as a fugitive from justice. He’s being extradited to Charles County and charged with first degree murder, second degree murder and other charges. Police have not explained how Weber, a quadruple amputee, was able to drive a car or fire a weapon. He has no hands, no arms or legs. It’s early in the investigation, but there’s no evidence to suggest anyone else was involved in the shooting and that he acted alone. Videos posted to social media do appear to show Weber shooting rifles and 9mm handguns. The backstory, Weber underwent quadruple amputation as a baby after a blood infection, according to reports. He is a professional cornhole player in the American Cornhole League. I’m not making this up, folks. Honestly, this is coming out of Fox 32 Chicago. So I am not making this up. And I’m trying not to laugh because somebody died, so it’s not nice to laugh because somebody was killed, but you’ve got to laugh at the story. How does a quadruple amputee, no arms, no legs, shoot a gun? Okay, first of all, for me, that’s like number one. Okay, how do you do that? Because all you have left, I mean, I guess he could wear prosthetics, but it doesn’t say here whether he has prosthetics or not. So I don’t know. Second of all, how do you play cornhole with no arms and legs? Does he grab it in his mouth and then throw it? Guys, I don’t know. And I’m not trying to be mean or rude, but I don’t know. I don’t know how you do this. All I know is when I read this headline, I’m just like, okay, yeah, my wife wants me to do this segment on things that make you go, hmm. Well, I just found the article of the week that makes you go, hmm. Because that just doesn’t make any sense to me whatsoever. Now, given that, I’m going to start doing that on a fairly routine basis. If you find things that make you go, hmm, I will start compiling these stories. And kind of like, you know, I used to do the Darwin Awards way back when. Every once a week we would do the Darwin Awards. I don’t even know if they do those much anymore. But in light of that, in the fact that we’re going to start doing a segment like this once a week, maybe even a couple times, just depends on the week and what we have going on and so on. Start sending me articles and things that you may find whereby you would say, okay, wait a minute. That doesn’t make any sense. And things that make you go, hmm. Anyways, let me know. Send me those. You can text them in to me, by the way. 307, of course, 200, 8222, 307, 200, 8222. And one last thing before we take our last break. And this is not, you know, the scam thing, which I talked about earlier. That’s a big deal. And I’m seeing things all over. Social media coming out of all sorts of police departments on that whole scam end of things. And again, I talked about scams on Friday’s Ready Radio. But as I had even Dave Hart from Roof Savers of Colorado tell me he had received this particular scam. I’m like, OK, I’m going to talk about that today. Well, by the time I talked to Dave early this morning. until coming on air this afternoon man that thing blew up and every agency out there is letting people know about it so they don’t get scammed evidently i i did not look to see what the qr link does or where it goes or anything because i’m just not going to do that of course but It evidently is a big enough scam and there’s enough risk there that they have put out this alert really across most agencies so that people don’t get messed up. Because it looks, I mean, if you didn’t know, even the address down below, if you didn’t look really, really close, you wouldn’t have noticed what I told you guys earlier about the misspelling of Bannock Street. So these scams are on the rise. Be extremely careful. Don’t fall for any of the crypto schemes and other things that are out there. Just be on high alert at all times because the last thing you want to do is get caught up and lose money and so on. One last thing, because Dave and I were talking about this this morning. Don’t be offended. So some of you go and you buy different things and cars or you need cash or whatever the case may be, and you may go to your account and draw some cash out. It’s getting to the point now at the bank where they will ask you, what’s the cash for? And folks, they’re not trying to be mean or rude or stand in the way of you getting the cash that you have in your bank account. They’re trying to make sure that you don’t get scammed by putting cash into a crypto machine and doing other things. So if the bank asks you, that’s why they’re asking you is because there’s so many of these scams going on. They’re trying to be proactive to make sure you don’t lose your hard-earned money. So don’t be mad at the bank. They really are trying to protect you. I know it sounds intrusive and they’re trying to pry as to what you’re doing in your personal life, but they’re doing that because of all of these scams that are going on. So rest assured, they still are on your side at the end of the day. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. Again, save money on Windows and Doors. Go right to the source. That is Dave Bancroft, Veteran Windows and Doors. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
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All right, really quick, too, on the plane crash back at LaGuardia, I’m getting messages saying that, man, the fire truck guys are really getting roasted on social media, that they’re somehow the bad guys in all of this. And after I watched the video and so on, no, folks, and I know enough about airport operations that, no, they’re not the bad guys. Sorry, they did nothing wrong whatsoever. The airplane itself did nothing wrong. The air traffic controller told the fire truck to go across the runway and shouldn’t have, and it’s that simple, so… Guys, that’s it for tonight. Have a great evening. Be safe out there. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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