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In today’s discussion, we explore the evolving field of biohacking and peptide therapy with the passionate insights of Dr. Scott Faulkner and Jeremy Sova. They provide a critical look at biomarker testing, revealing how accessible advanced panels can transform individuals’ approach to health management. The conversation underscores the power of personal sovereignty over one’s body and the potential pitfalls of relying solely on traditional industrial health systems. Don’t miss this episode if you’re curious about modern medical advancements and personal health advocacy.
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Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner in this final third hour of Health and Wellness Wednesday. We’ve been talking with my friend Jeremy Sova, who’s a great friend, a patient, biohacker, just smart guy extraordinaire who’s got his own personal journey. We covered a lot of that in the first couple of hours. We won’t rehash that, but anybody who wants to listen, and we’ve talked about it as well on previous episodes, so go to RushToReason.com. Today’s episode will be posted here in a few hours, but you can go back and listen to Jeremy and I waxing eloquent about everything in this biohacking space.
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I think May 21st, July 1st, and today, and it’s cool even to be here and see the progression of our evolution together in the way that we keep stacking, to use a term, stacking on certain things that are improving and even speeding up the reverse aging conundrum that most people can’t figure out. So we’re here to help you guys sort through a lot of information and hopefully simplify it to a certain degree.
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yeah and one of the leaders in the space you mentioned the name before is brian johnson and i take my hat off to the guy i i watched the netflix special don’t die and i’ll admit brian he’s a i think he’s a troubled individual when you watch that when he sees you see how he wraps his whole life around his son um and then his son goes off to college it’s like okay now what But the fact that he’s the tip of the spear leading doctors like myself into this space. He’s showing what’s possible. Well, that’s it. The guy’s dropping 2 million, and it’s not on just peptides and supplements. That 2 million is really the state of the art equipment that you can use to test. A lab machine is, you know, $500,000. An ultrasound machine is multiples of thousands of dollars. He’s actually taking that $2 million and putting it into the equipment so that he can test his body. The supplements and everything else, really, you and I talked about this before. I think it was about $7,000. You can get really healthy and reverse your biologic age for $5,000 to $7,000. That’s right. Well, if people just… I mean, you don’t have to drink Starbucks every day. Let’s get that HSA. Let’s start investing in our health. You can start doing these peptides. I can put you on a GLP. We can improve your mitochondria. We can actually do testing and, um, Oh, you’re going to like this. I just beat up the reps from quest diagnostics. So you know how Mark Hyman has his about 121 biomarkers that you can do, um, and sign up for his program, right? So biomarkers are lab tests. So I beat up Quest. I said, I want Mark Hyman’s panel. And so they came back and said, okay, Dr. Faulkner, here’s your price for that panel. And I looked at it and I just laughed in their face. I said, you’re high as a kite. I know his price. He posts it. It’s 500 bucks.
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Yep.
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What you just gave me, my cost is that. So go back and do it again. And they did.
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That’s great. They want the business.
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That’s exactly right. So now I’m able to offer the listeners basically the same Mark Hyman panel where you’re getting at least 121 biomarkers. I tweaked it a little bit. He’s got a couple of things that you don’t really need, especially as a guy. Here’s a couple of things that he missed. I tweaked it slightly, but for about the same price. And the big difference is you get me.
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Oh, sure. You have a clinician, not just clinicians’ notes from an AI bot. You have an actual doctor to sit down and review and apply how to optimize the deficiencies.
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That’s exactly right, which you don’t get from Mark Hyman. So if anybody’s interested in that, you can give us a call at the office, 303-663-6990 or Castle Rock Regenerative Healthcare. Find us down in Castle Rock. But I’m so excited to launch that, that we can offer those same biomarkers. It is run through Quest Labs. And for that cash price, I promise you, you would spend thousands of dollars to get that same biomarkers through Quest. And most of those codes will not be covered, right? Because… For a doctor to write a lab slip order, I have to justify why am I ordering a manganese.
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Symptoms or some kind of an ailment.
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Why am I ordering heavy metal panel, right? If you don’t have that, guess what? You’re paying out of pocket and you’re paying that inflated price that Quest is going to hit you with. So I’m excited to bring that on board.
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Remember, if you don’t measure it, you can’t manage it, and you sure as hell can’t optimize it. So get your biomarkers done. That’s the very first step. That’s the first step. I had a buddy that’s like, hey, I want that water bottle that you bought for $300. I’m like, no, spend that money on your lab work. Then you can worry about a water bottle. He’s like, oh, okay. Yeah, there you go.
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Good advice.
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Yep, exactly. And on the Brian Johnson note really quick, it’s so cool to watch people argue, scientists and doctors and panels and some of the smartest minds debating whether or not a mouse or a worm was able to get results in a lab. But then he spends the money and proves it, that the human body can actually do something. certain thing and he’ll actually post results on his app and all of a sudden you fast forward like three years of clinical trials on something you can apply today mm-hmm so god bless that man for being able to put himself out there I know I think he likes the attention to which is great yeah but we can pick and choose certain things and get ahead of it because some of us our clocks are aging we don’t have another decade for all these clinical trials and all these FDA approved, you know, biological science items. So it’s so cool to have somebody leading that charge. So thank you, Brian.
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Yeah. And the other thing I noticed when you watch that Don’t Die Netflix special is they had the expert from Harvard, right? Yeah, I trained in Massachusetts. I know these guys. And for them to poo-poo what he was doing, oh, this is not science, and he should have donated that $2 million to me, and then I would have done the real science. I’m like, you arrogant prick. You know what? He’s the tip of the spear. He’s out there putting it on the line. He has no other – I don’t think he has a hidden agenda other than he has now a company where he has the olive oil and things like that. And it’s like, all right, that’s capitalism. I get it.
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Which he’s trying to actually shed away from what his mission is. It’s not quite profitable yet, but he’s trying to sell it because he doesn’t want – that stigma of being in it for the money, similar to Gary Brekka. Now he’s gone so many different directions. Most of them are good, but now he has that stigma of, Gary, you’re in it for the money, you’re in it for the money. I don’t believe that he is, but that’s what all the social media comments are now. So you’ve got to be careful that you stay true to the mission about helping people. The money is going to come regardless, but when you put the money in front, then all of a sudden you’ll start to lose credibility.
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Yeah, right. And after you sell Braintree Venmo for $900 million, it’s like, okay, he doesn’t need the money. That’s right. But what he’s doing, for somebody like myself to see him out there putting it all on the line, I think it’s the coolest thing.
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I’ll give you an example. So I thought the HBOT was a good idea for my son because he gets hockey concussions. Yep. So then I see Brian Johnson go into a chamber 60 times in 90 days, and now his resting heart rate at 47 years old is 39 beats per minute. I’m like, that’s not even possible. And again, he posted the proof. And now his biological age is a year younger than his 19-year-old son. So now instead of just my son going in the HBOT, I’m in Dr. Faulkner’s HBOT two or three days a week, four if I can get the time to do it. And my own resting heart rate is now down 16 beats per minute. And I’m seeing other benefits from just that. Would I have taken that deeper dive, in air quotes, without Brian doing what he did? Most likely I wouldn’t have. So, yeah, it’s amazing that all of a sudden you have all these other doctors. Well, maybe you should be and you shouldn’t be. I’m looking at proof in real time every day. I actually compete on his app. from my own age group. But it’s so cool to be able to be ahead of the forefront of what’s going on and be able to bring some of that stuff to a forum like this.
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Yeah, and HBOT is hyperbaric oxygen therapy or chamber, and I have a two-person that goes to two atmospheres absolute. So it’s a real chamber. It’s not one of those soft-sided little fake coffins.
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That’s right.
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It’s the real deal. Yeah, and we have all the safety protocols because John had me on a couple of weeks ago to explain why do you want, like my chamber where we have all the safety protocols, you don’t want to get into some of these that are dangerous. They don’t know anything about safety. You’d want to avoid those like the plagues. So it went a little long in this first segment. I wasn’t really planning on talking about this. We were talking about sexual health.
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We’re just holding off on the sex talk as long as possible.
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That’s right. But I also wanted to have Maddie weigh in on whether or not what we’re doing is legal because there’s some gray area to peptides. Did the government outlaw these? How is it that you guys are able to do this? And even the GLP-1s, the lawsuit. So Josh, I want you to tackle that. But Maddie, answer that question when we come back on are peptides legal? Did the government outlaw them? When we get back, Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, 560 KLC.
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It’s actually Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John. So, Maddie, we were talking about peptides. We’ve talked about them for the last two and a half hours. But there’s some confusion about whether peptides are legal. So if you can address that and lay some fears of people.
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Sure. So… Peptides are, in general, not FDA approved. There are a few exceptions to that, like the name brand semaglutide and, you know, the name brand version of PT141. It’s few and far between. So in general, peptides are in the health and wellness sphere. It’s… they don’t operate under the fda the exception to this is when something goes on an fda shortage list when there is a shortage list and the fda deems that a company a large pharmaceutical company we won’t name any names does not have the capacity to meet demand for a product it goes on the fda shortage list and that allows compounding pharmacies to manufacture that product and distribute it to the public to meet demand. Right now they have taken almost all the peptides off the FDA sort of shortage list. So by regulation, compounding pharmacies are not allowed to manufacture what they were previously manufacturing when they were allowed to, when it was on that list. Uh, There is some gray area in this. Obviously, this is a lot like very nuanced with law and regulation and whatnot. But the peptides that we provide come from a manufacturer, not a compounding pharmacy. So they are not mixed with anything. Right. Therefore, they are not compounded. So we are not operating under the umbrella of shortage list, no shortage list, because we are not compounding anything at all. We just have straight peptide in the vial. It goes to the provider. You cannot buy it as a consumer. I can’t go online and order it myself. The licensed provider has to order from us, and you have to get it through the licensed provider so you get their guidance and insight as you take it.
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So you’re afraid to mention Eli Lilly and Novo Nordisk. I am not afraid. And so those were the two big lawsuits that came down in March. So Eli Lilly makes Ter’s Epitide, which is Monjaro’s Epibound. Novo Nordisk makes semaglutide, which is Ozempic and Wegovi. And what the federal judges – two separate cases, but they hit almost simultaneous when the compounding pharmacies were allowed to make it because there was a shortage. They could not keep up with the demand. The companies then went to the federal court, said, we can now meet the demand. We want you to shut down the compounding pharmacies. And in fact, the judges ruled in their favor. And Josh, correct me if I’m wrong, but there was three or four big compounding pharmacies that basically thumbed their nose at the judge and said, well, we believe we’re on solid legal ground to continue to manufacture it. That was Strive, Empower, and Olympus are the three that I remember.
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Yep, Strive, Empower, Olympia, and – Strive, Empower, Olympia. Oh, there’s one more we’re forgetting. There’s four, and they’re still in active lawsuits currently. Correct. There’s so much buzz around the GLPs. One, they’re phenomenal products, but two, we live in a metabolically unhealthy society. So weight is a huge issue, which is why these companies, being Lilly and Novo, have decided to commandeer the rights to these amino acid chains. It’s all a money play. And so these compounding pharmacies went and fought back and said, look, you can’t meet the demand and you especially can’t meet the price point that these civilians need these medications at.
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And so… And it’s a different formula. Correct.
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Correct. And so going back to… what Dr. Scott has or what a manufacturer does compared to a compounding pharmacy is we provide something called API, which is active pharmaceutical ingredient. And so in a FDA approved weight loss medication, you know, Wagova, Setbound, Bonjoro, Ozempic, the active pharmaceutical ingredient that aids in the weight loss from those is Wagova. semaglutide, terzepatide, and soon to be retatrutide. In order for those to then go and get FDA approved, they had to add a bunch of fillers, carcinogens, you know what, or You don’t know what else is in there. I don’t even know what else is in there. You can’t pronounce half of it. But we all know that every three-letter agency in the United States has our best interests at hand. So don’t be scared of a non-FDA-approved peptide because at the end of the day, What these peptides are doing is they’re keeping people healthy for longer without these metabolic diseases, which these big pharmaceutical companies have profited on for so long.
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I’d go even further to say is if your doctor or like you, Dr. Faulkner are telling your patient that this is going to better their condition or better their way of life or better their health. And you spent your entire life in medicine. Like that’s all I need to know. Right. I don’t need the big, you know, totally the big banner that, you know, says beware, you know, the, you know, big, big pharma knows best. Like, no, trust your doctor. Right.
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yeah trust yourself like we all have autonomy do your research read up on things listen to reputable sources ask your doctor questions um know what’s what and advocate for yourself because no one’s going to do it for you there are a lot of things out here on the new frontier of medicine that are changing people’s lives and frankly, I’m sure there’s a lot of people that don’t want you to know about them, right? We are an unhealthy society. People make money on us being unhealthy. Don’t be that person. Advocate for your own health and find the things that might be out there, whether they’re approved or not approved, that you might be interested in trying and see how your body feels.
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Yeah, that’s a good point. And to give another story, because I like stories, I got a phone call from a lady last week out of Virginia. Okay, now there’s a lot of doctors between Virginia and Castle Rock, Colorado. This lady found me on Google. She saw that we have nothing but five-star reviews. She called me up to talk about hormone replacement therapy. And I’m like, okay, you’re a long ways away, but all right, I’ll entertain you. And basically she has come to the conclusion that a lot of these providers get into a space, let’s say bioidentical hormones or sexual wellness, and they don’t really know what they’re doing. They either took a weekend course. Or their mentor didn’t know what they were doing. And these ladies are like on estrogen patch. And I’m like, okay, so first off, where are your labs? Can you just rattle them off to me? Well, they didn’t draw any. And I’m like, you’ve got to be kidding me. A doctor, a provider, sometimes it’s a nurse practitioner, puts you on a potentially lethal, because if you got a blood clot from this, medicine without checking your levels i said what’s your testosterone don’t know she didn’t check it what’s your progesterone don’t know it’s malpractice it’s malpractice so if you get one of these providers that says oh well i can put pellets in you i can give you an estrogen patch ladies without progesterone even if you’ve had a hysterectomy Run away as fast as you can because the female body needs that progesterone to counteract. Yes, there’s great things about estrogen, right, or estradiol. Your blood vessels are better, so decrease heart attacks and strokes. Decrease Alzheimer’s. If it’s bioidentical, it actually decreases your risk of breast cancer. If it’s combined with a high dose of progesterone, So somebody Maddie’s age, I don’t look at you and say, oh, geez, you’re really at risk for breast cancer. Now you’ll want to get tested for genetic defects. But if you don’t have any of that, your body is making progesterone and estradiol in spades. But your progesterone is very high, which protects you against the bad side of the estradiol.
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Right.
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And testosterone, you taught me this, 51% of prescriptions for testosterone in the United States is written for women.
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Interesting.
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I didn’t know that.
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I didn’t either.
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I would have said it was men, clearly.
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Much lower dosages, I assume. Yes.
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But yes. But I do test testosterone in women because on a normal quest or lab core slip, it’ll say, okay, you’re a female, so therefore your testosterone should be like between 10 and 20 or 25. That is so far off the mark. Most women’s testosterone needs to be between 80 and 120. So the normal values on these lab tests are so screwed up. It’s the same thing we talked about vitamin D, right? 65 to 100. Right. But if you came in at 30 or 35, that lab slip is going to say normal. You go to your doc in the box. He says, hey, guess what? That’s normal. It’s not normal. Same thing for thyroid. So I’m into splitting hairs. I tell my patients, I’m going to split hairs to get your TSH to one. Get your free T3 between 4 and 4.3. Get that T4 up. So if I have to give you a little bit, like, well, that is splitting hairs. I’m like, but here’s the papers that show that people who have their TSH around 3.5, 4, which is still in the normal range. It wrecks their body. We have the data that show, no, we should get your thyroid under optimal condition.
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Yep.
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So just because you go to a doctor and they – You can imagine. It’s scary. So I take that with a grain of salt what you said is go talk to your doctor, but most of them don’t know what they’re talking about. And you only get one question. They give you five minutes. Right. You go in there. You’re like, OK, well, I want to talk about X, Y and Z. Well, you get X and their hands on the doorknob. So you got to take your own health care into your own hands.
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Yeah. And advocate for yourself.
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That’s exactly right.
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Nowadays, too, you get your blood work done with the AI bots. You can learn so much before you even sit down with a reputable doctor and say, here’s why I’m here. Here’s the help that I want. If you’re going to help me, great. If not, I’ll find somebody who will. But here’s the data.
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Yeah, and a good doctor is not afraid of AI. It actually saves me time because you’ve gone through 100 of those biomarkers, and now we’re focusing on one or two that might be amiss. It’s like I’m glad you educated yourself.
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Yeah, maybe 10 years ago you didn’t want folks Googling stuff and freaking out. Oh, I have cancer. But nowadays it’s getting so streamlined that it’s helpful for all of us. It’s making us all smarter.
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Especially in this space because let’s face it. They can’t really screw – AI can’t screw this up. Now, if you ask, OK, what about President Trump or did we actually land on the moon? Then the guys who write this code, they can – They infuse their political – Well, that’s right. Their bias. But when it comes to biomarkers and labs – No, I haven’t seen anything that’s totally screwed up yet.
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It’s pretty much zeros and ones, right?
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That’s it. If it is there, it could be A, B, or C. So I’m actually a proponent of using AI, and oftentimes I’ll pull up chat GBT 5.0 Pro and show patients, like, here, you want to know, here it is. And they’re, wow, I didn’t know that. It’s so much easier for me. I just hit print. Here you go. Take it. Yeah. So it went a little long. We’ll be back in just a minute. And I promise we’re going to get to sexual health when we get back. So listen to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, 560 KLC.
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You’re listening to Rush to Reason. Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John with Maddie, with Josh, our experts in peptides, and Jeremy Sova, my class clown, smart guy. So I promised that we would get to it. Let’s get to it. Josh, people have heard of PT-141. What is it, how does it work, and why is it all the rage?
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Well, if you haven’t heard of PT-141, you’ve probably heard of Viagra or Cialis, men’s sexual health enhancers, let’s call them. One thing that the market has kind of been lacking for a little bit is the women’s sexual health enhancers. So PT-141, it’s a phenomenal peptide. And unlike your standard Viagra, Cialis medication that increases blood flow, this is actually going to play a bigger role in modulating your central nervous system. So we call it brain to body. What it’s going to do is it’s going to naturally increase libido and motivation. And, you know, sex plays a huge role in everybody’s life. And, you know, it’s it. This particular peptide has the same effect on men and women. So it’s super interesting. You and your partner can take it simultaneously. If only one of you struggles, you can take it. But, you know, going kind of off this PT-141, we touched on buccal strips or sublingual application for peptides. Dr. Scott is going to be carrying a product that is PT 141. So the central nervous system motivation, libido enhancer, it’s going to have oxytocin in it too. So that’s the bonding hormone. And then it is going to have another, um, you know, and I’m going to butcher this word because I’m not a chemist, um, but it’s another peptide. Um, and then the layman’s name for it is kiss peptin. And that is – those three together are going to give you an all-encompassing way to boost not only your sexual motivation, drive, feel, and bond while you’re doing that. Historically, PT-141 was done in an injection. It kind of needed to be timed appropriately. With this new technology, you’re going to be able to have a strip in your purse, in your wallet, anything like that. If you’re feeling that tension build and the dinner went well, your date’s going great, you can just take the strip. It’s very discreet, and some people have – different reactions to it in terms of their response. But in between 45 minutes to two hours are going to be kind of your peak times for sexual activity then. But it’s just a great way to spice up your sex life or get your sex life back to a level that you feel is optimized.
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So I’ll layer on top of that a little bit. I’m familiar with the injectable and the intranasal, and I’m looking forward to trying the in-the-mouth label strip. So what I found for men is the combination of PT-141, about 30 minutes before sexual activity, paired with about five milligrams of apomorphine. And the word morphine is spelled the same, but it’s completely different than the painkiller that you’re talking about when you get hurt in the hospital, apomorphine. And then with a slow-release Cialis. So those three things together, the Cialis, the apomorphine, and the PT-141. And for the woman, the PT-141 with the oxytocin. And now they also have what they call a scream cream, which aids in blood flow. So you take the PT-141 together and then the his and hers, and it has absolutely phenomenal effects on the outcome for two, three, four, five hours. And you can actually up the dose of the PT-141 every 30 minutes up until, I think, a certain point. And it’s indicated on the container. But the apomorphine talks to the dopamine in the brain. The PT-141 talks to the central nervous system. And the Viagra trochee increases nitric oxide, which is great for blood flow in general. And also, you know, helps with blood flow for the male and the female in the kiss. Peptin, you said also is it’s similar to Viagra for the female to a certain degree is my understanding. Correct. So if you combine those, I guess you can call them drugs or modalities. Um, it is an absolute game changer for the relationship, you know, to the point that you can dial it up, dial it down, you know, vacations become a whole different animal. Um, so I can’t speak highly enough from personal experience that, that those combinations are phenomenal and I cannot wait until you guys have a non-injectable version of the PT 141.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love that you touched on the vacation part there because traveling with, like we mentioned earlier, syringes, a product that needs to be refrigerated, all that jazz, it gets a bit tedious at times. Traveling with strips that aren’t going to alarm TSA, it just makes the whole experience that much better.
SPEAKER 14 :
And having to keep stuff cold is such a pain in the butt. It is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I have to admit probably 50% of my patients that have tried PT-141, they don’t like the effects from the injectables. I think this is going to be a true game changer because let’s face it. I mean we have a lot of people out there. Their marriages are on the rocks, and sexual health is one of the reasons why. So if somebody comes to me, first thing I’m going to do is I’m going to check your hormone level. Even if you’re young, I’m finding ladies that are in their early 30s that are already perimenopausal. Their progesterone level is low. They have no testosterone. They’re like, well, I thought I just was in the gym and I couldn’t gain muscle mass because I’m a girl. It’s like, no, you have no testosterone in your body, which then goes to that libido side, the drive. And so it’s like I’m fixing relationships and I’m not even Dr. Ruth. Remember that old lady? Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it’s a little bit of a taboo topic to talk about in conservative radio. So appreciate the listeners, you know, bearing with us, but I’m just going to tell it like it is. And it’s not just me. There’s several colleagues, friends, family members that I’ve put on this exact regimen. And I’m talking on the female side of things about, Some women that couldn’t achieve orgasm in their entire lives are now not only achieving them, but they get more frequent and more intense over time as the body adjusts to it. And on the male side, the refractory period is phenomenal. It’s like cut in half like when you’re a teenager. So I’m sorry if that sounds a little too direct and to the point, but that’s what this stuff does.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and let’s face it. I mean, we’re all human, right? I’m a doctor, and you’re practicing to be a doctor.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m on a podcast.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. We’ll call it Sort of a Doctor. That’s right. So this is not going to hurt you, right? So I would never advocate to do something that’s going to hurt you. But it’s all-encompassing. Let’s check those hormones. Let’s see what else is going on. But if I have a tool in my toolbox and I’m like, you see this little Listerine strip? And you’re like, dude, game on. And I put your marriage back together? Oh, my gosh. Why wouldn’t I do that for you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and a lot of people, especially women, as you mentioned, as you go through menopause, as you get older, your hormones change. Things just change. Your body changes in ways that you’re like, I don’t really know what’s going on. And if you have a fix for that, you can help bring things back to when you were 20, 30, 35, 17, you name it. That’s worth exploring.
SPEAKER 14 :
So I’m in a testosterone replacement therapy group on Facebook. It’s like a little secret club of all of us TRT guys that share information. And if there’s something concerning on a lab and their endocrinologist won’t take a look at it or whatever. But what we’re finding is, in general, the testosterone for men is really driving their libido in a way that it hasn’t for a long time. So when the wife or the girlfriend can’t keep up, it puts a big strain on things. And all of a sudden, some guy’s like, oh, I need to go find it elsewhere. And it’s real bad stuff. So now there’s a means to bring the wife or the girlfriend up to par with the libido and put them on the same page so they can enjoy it together. And then you don’t have that mismatch anymore. Because a lot of guys are on the testosterone muscle building, getting lean, and they’re realizing the major side effect is they haven’t been that aroused in quite some time, just from the testosterone alone. Forget the other stuff we mentioned. So it’s so good now that we’re focusing on the woman and her being able to improve, you know, her desires and physical outcomes. So then, you know, you’ve got a very happy situation on both sides.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because I have a lot of ladies who I put on testosterone and get at 80, 120. Some ladies are more muscular, and I’ll even push that T up to close to 200. But even then, their libido just isn’t where it should be. Now I’m not going to push that T level to 300 or 400 just so that you can chase your husband around. But this is that game changer where she’s like, hey, I don’t need to have acne. I don’t have to have dark facial hair. But if I put this thing on my tongue, we’re having a great time. Problem solved.
SPEAKER 14 :
And you don’t even need the alcohol anymore, which is a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. Alcohol wrecks your body. We went a little bit long. We’ll be right back for our last segment. If anybody wants to weigh in, listeners, 303-477-5600. You’re listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner, filling in for John Rush, 560-KLZ.
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Back to Rush to Reason. Welcome back, listeners, to the final segment of the three hours Health and Wellness Wednesday. Listen to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John. A lot of guys have low T. It’s an epidemic in America. I’m treating, I told you before, not this young man that we talked about earlier today because I don’t have his T-level back, but I’ve had some parents bring in their sons saying his testosterone level is so low. Can you help my son bulk up and hold my nerves? And I’m like, yeah, I mean, I’m a doctor. I’m here to help the young man, make sure there’s not something else going on. But there’s some side effects that can come with TRT, testosterone replacement therapy. If people don’t know what TRT is, it’s not thyroid replacement. It’s testosterone replacement therapy. And even some of the ladies, I told you that if you overshoot the mark, you can get acne, you get some dark facial hair. But Jeremy, you wanted to touch about DHT, dihydrotestosterone.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. Dihydrotestosterone is a hormone that is found in hair growth and in sexual libido. And I’ll tell a personal story, as embarrassing as it is. About three or four years ago, I started to have some male pattern baldness on the crown. Very significant. So I went to the doctor, my primary care physician at the time, and he’s like, yeah, we can put you on Propecia, which I found out is really just one milligram of finasteride. So I got the finasteride. I broke it into four 1.25 tablets to save some money, and I started taking it. And sure enough, I wasn’t getting a lot of regrowth, but the hair stopped falling out. I’m like, oh, there’s something to this. And then I, as I always do, I kind of researched it and said something like 3% of men can experience sexual health and libido issues. Well, first of all, I wasn’t in the 3%. The number’s much, much higher than that. But I was in that percentage. Um, and started to have issues with it. So I said, well, doc, you know, I’m having these issues now. Should I stop taking the, um, the finasteride? And he’s like, well, no, it’s kind of too late, right? Like you wanted to, you wanted to compromise your hair growth for, for your sex life. And there’s really no reverse in that based on what, what we can do. I’m like, man, well, that’s pretty depressing. So I dealt with it for maybe another six or nine months and then had a colleague that’s like, hey, have you ever heard of testosterone replacement therapy? I’m like, no, what’s that? He’s like, yeah, I just started taking these pellets. They kind of put them into your glute and drives your testosterone levels up. And I’m like, well, maybe I need that. So I had my testosterone levels checked, and it turns out, as I said before on this podcast, they were really low. It was like 380, I think, was the total and the free.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which is the crazy thing is on that lab, I’ll bet it came out as normal, didn’t it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Um, no, because the, the, the, the testosterone clinic did the lab.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
But it would have turned out normal. I think it’s even down to like two 80.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. If you go through quest or lab core. Yep.
SPEAKER 14 :
Um, so I’m like, all right, well, this I’ll look into this. This sounds like a good idea. I looked at, you know, some of the upsides and the downside. I’m like, all right, well, I’ll give it a shot. And about 90 days in, um, I saw some real changes in a lot of things, right? Like my ability to get up in the morning, my cognitive ability, my energy, my time in the gym. And then all of a sudden, I’m still taking the finasteride, but all of a sudden my sex life is getting better and better and better and better. And then about nine months in, once the body fully adjusted to the new hormone profiles, It was as good as it was in my late teens and early 20s. And that’s before we talked about PT-141, apomorphine, and the stuff that I’ve used to optimize even further. So shame on that doctor for either not knowing or lying to me that there wasn’t a way to reverse. And now I have a full head of hair, no male baldness on the crown whatsoever, and I have an incredible sex life. So what they don’t tell you is blocking DHT in the hair is good, but blocking DHT down below when you’re low on testosterone is not so good. So that’s really the key is make sure that you know what your hormone levels are and don’t trust any doc in the box or any endocrinologist based on what they think normal is with air quotes. because you can optimize as long as other things are healthy right like you’re not at risk for blood clots and you know your blood pressure is normal there’s a good chance that as you age mostly after age 35 40 that those numbers are are moving downward in a way that’s going to really really set you back on how you feel and how you react physically athletically in the gym you know sexually so definitely know what your hormone levels are because most doctors aren’t checking those
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s exactly right. And if you do go to one of these, I won’t say the name, but men’s clinics, their standard knee jerk is they’ll check your testosterone level, right? So they’re a one-track mind. And if you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail. So you’re going to walk away with a prescription for testosterone, usually the esters, right? So like testosterone cipionate, which is the injectable. Testosterone in and of itself is bioidentical, but when they add the ester to it, like cipionate, it tells the body how slowly to release that testosterone. And so I see guys who they give themselves an injection, they get just crazy, right? Roid rage. And then it craters at the end of the week. It plummets. So then they start to mix this concoction. It’s like, all right, well, who wants to shoot themselves with a two-inch needle in their butt like once a week or twice a week? I don’t care for that. And then with the pellets, once they’re in you, we can’t take them back. They’re very uncomfortable. They’re very uncomfortable.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’ve got a buddy that wouldn’t go snowboarding with me because he’s like, the chairlift is too painful. I’m like, is it worth it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you get the scarring and the pellets can pop out. So I have to tell you, I love the creams. The topicals. The topicals. But it depends on where you get it from because my compounding pharmacist that I’ve had on the radio before, he and I took a year to find the best base. It has everything to do with the base that they put the testosterone in. will determine how much gets into your system. But my point was that a lot of these clinics, they straight away put every guy on anastrozole, Which is an aromatase inhibitor.
SPEAKER 14 :
Crashes the estrogen. And you feel worse than before you went on testosterone.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, because their theory is, oh, well, estrogen is bad. You’re a guy. Therefore, you don’t need it. We don’t want you to have breasts or anything like that. It’s like, well, I don’t want you to have it either. But I learned this through the A4M conference in Florida that the guys that they’re putting on anastrozole to block the estrogen, their rate of heart attacks is going through the roof. I’m sure. Because your vessels need the estradiol, even as a guy.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it’s very neuroprotective.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s exactly right. So this knee-jerk reaction that these clinics are just doing without thinking it through, we’re actually doing more harm than good. So this goes back to Maddie’s point. You better trust your provider that they actually understand this stuff. And it’s just not, oh, well, this is how we do it. This is our program. We’re the men’s clinic or whatever you call yourselves. We do this for everybody. No, the science is saying you better avoid those aromatase inhibitors unless a guy starts to aromatize saying, hey, I’m crying at rom-coms, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Or severe nipple pain, something like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. I want to watch Sleepless in Seattle. At that point in time, you either back off, you check a level, you back off, or you can then maybe do a DIM or aromatase inhibitor. But until that happens – you should not just be blanket putting every patient on these things.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I will say in a word of caution that you should check your levels. I do it every 90 days because if you drive the hemoglobin and the Maticrit up and you don’t want to crash your ferritin levels, so your iron saturation percentage and your iron in your blood and your ferritin, which is the storage of iron, You got to keep an eye on these things. And for instance, instead of donating blood, now I actually use the blood for my biomarkers once a year for the dump to keep the hemoglobin and hematocrit perfect. But they do tend to creep up, even if you’re drinking a lot of water, and it depends on the person. And some years they don’t, some years they do. But you definitely want to keep an eye on the levels.
SPEAKER 05 :
Keep an eye on the levels because then you’re at risk for heart attacks and strokes. Yeah, it’s not a panacea. No. So Josh, any final questions at the last minute? Or comments?
SPEAKER 04 :
Final comments, I would just say, again, your health comes down to your autonomy to take action. And if you want somebody who’s going to look at all of the markers to customize a formula that’s going to best fit you, go down and see Dr. Scott at Castle Rock, Virginia.
SPEAKER 05 :
I appreciate that plug. Matty, any final thoughts?
SPEAKER 06 :
I just hope that everyone’s listening and thinking critically about their health and who they trust information from, what kind of products you decide to put in your body and optimize.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I want to be the first customer when these strips become available because I’m so sick of these needles.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. I’ll make a big announcement on John’s show. So thank you for listening, Dr. Scott Faulkner and friends. Filling in for John on this Health and Wellness Wednesday. Stay safe.
