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Drive Radio comes to you live from the Red Lion Car Show at Loprino Foods in North Denver! John Rush and his panel field nonstop automotive questions from listeners, covering everything from failing catalytic converters to auctioning a hybrid Avalon that’s been parked for five years. A 69-year-old caller shares his loyalty to trusted local mechanics and praises Paul Leuenberger’s customer service. Discussions span from the realities of modern emissions testing, diagnosing fuel injector issues, and handling vapor lock in classic trucks to the hidden costs of car ownership and insurance surprises. Paul from GIA Insurance joins to explain
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There’s no such thing as a stupid question. This is Drive Radio. All of your automotive questions are just one phone call away. 303-477-5600. Drive Radio is made possible by the member shops of Colorado Select Auto Care Centers. To find one near you, go to drive-radio.com. Now, Drive Radio on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in. We appreciate it very much. Again, live at Loprino Foods, the Red Lion Car Show, 1830 West 38th Street over in North Denver. We appreciate you all joining us today. Those that have come by and said hi, we appreciate that as well. And met some familiar faces, met some people that I’ve not met before. So thank you for that as well. Steve from Geno’s is with us today as well as Paul from Group Insurance Analyst, Paul Inigro. And, Charlie, let’s do this so I can finish up with our call. Are you in a better spot where I can hear you now?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, can you hear me good?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, I can hear you now, Charlie. Sorry about that. I couldn’t hear that last part that you were talking about, your fuse box and trading it off and all of that, so I’ll let you go ahead and fill us back in.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, what it was was my car just kept dying, and then it started and it died. And I spent a lot of money trying to figure it out. Turned out it was that fuse box thing. right the handles were broken on it so i’d ask you about you know finding when you could do professionally so as far as that goes who’s your guy and for calling oh pat up there would yeah pat would be happy if that’s tonight all tech automotive they could do that for you absolutely okay and then um i could ask them is just uh yeah i would i always excuse me i’m losing my capacity to communicate um I went with Paul Loewenberger for my insurance recommendation. As a 69-year-old man who knows what customer service is, they have never interrupted me while I was… They’ve just been wonderful. Oh, that’s good. That’s good. When my transmission went out on my Toyota, I took busses down to Larry’s at Geno’s. Okay, yeah. I answered Larry’s transmission. Incredible. Larry kept it two weeks, couldn’t fix it, wouldn’t charge me. I mean, these people have just been great, so if you’re out there and you’re like me and you don’t think you can trust anybody, go there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Charlie, thank you. And, yeah, Pat will take care of you up at Alltech up in Fort Collins. For everybody listening, all of our partners, Steve, Paul, everybody that’s a part of what we do here on Drive Radio, just go to drive-radio.com. You can find all of our partners there, all of our member shops. And we’ve got many partners, by the way, from attorneys to estate planners to insurance to roofers to you name it. We kind of cover the gamut. It’s not just automotive that helped make this show happen and also just shows you the testament of the individuals that feel enough to help us do what we do, even though they’re not car people always. In a way, they are because they’re a part of Drive Radio, but they just understand that helping the community is what we’re all about, and they want to be there for that as well. Let’s do this. Paul in Loveland, you are next. Go ahead, Paul.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good morning, John, or actually afternoon. Happy birthday, by the way. to your wife’s grandmother. To Wilma?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
God willing, my mother’s going to be 102 in October as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Awesome. Awesome, Paul. Good for you.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s a very special group they have there. Yes, it is. So anyway, John, I got my 2003 Buick Century. It’s got the 3100 engine in it. Yep. And I got a… service soon indicator and I put on my inexpensive OBD and I got an error code of a P0141 which in looking it up said that it was the O2 sensor on circuit bank one sensor number two which from doing a little online research I found out that sensor number two is after the catalytic converter.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s the AFCAP, yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
While I have been contemplating my options with that, I made a run down the DIA about 60 miles, left the car for three days, came back, ran it again for another 60. And the light was on the whole time. And then the next day, the light mysteriously went off. And it has not been back on since, and that’s been about a week or so. So I’m just curious, can it be an intermittent sensor problem? More importantly, if it comes back on, am I risking a lot of harm if I continue to run it before deciding what to do as far as replacing the sensor?
SPEAKER 07 :
Really quick, it’s probably, and the answer is no and no. It’s probably not a sensor, by the way. Most likely what’s happening is, and this is a guess, you have to do a little bit further investigation on this to determine this, but most likely, It’s a cat efficiency issue. That’s why that AF sensor light, you know, that AF sensor code is coming on. It’s probably not working like it should. And you driving it the distance you did and doing what you did probably made the cat work more effectively, therefore making that sensor read the right readings, therefore turning the light off. So it’s probably a catalyst efficiency or a cat converter efficiency issue more than it is that sensor itself. That would be my guess.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. And is that correctable?
SPEAKER 07 :
By putting a catalytic converter on it, yes, it is. Okay. Which is expensive.
SPEAKER 06 :
So how do you treat the car before you drove that 60 miles? Is it all short-distance stuff? Great question. That kind of thing?
SPEAKER 16 :
Generally speaking, it’s my around-town vehicle.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
There’s your answer then.
SPEAKER 07 :
We’re probably not far off on our diagnosis. And, again, we’re doing this over the quote-unquote phone radio. Hard to tell without actually looking at it. the readings and so on, but everything you’re telling me and Steve right now, Paul, I would be led to believe that you’ve most likely got a catalytic converter efficiency issue. And I didn’t ask, how many miles are on it?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, it’s about 175,000. Yeah, on a 2003 at 175, that would not surprise me.
SPEAKER 07 :
okay as far as all right you’re not gonna hurt anything you’re not gonna hurt anything well may not pass the next admissions test but that’s a different conversation uh yes good thing to keep in mind too i’ll just see when that one’s scheduled so yes might be old enough to be an antique at this point right well and here’s a little here’s a little tip on that given that you know we’re kind of getting to maybe that threshold of a of a cat replacement when you know so you need to be outside of 90 days so so longer than 90 days prior to renewal find the mobile testing stations typically they’re going to be along the side of highways and so on where you can get that thing up to where its efficiency is working correctly, and you need to run through those, and it tells you all on the website specifically what you have to do, but it’s like three times within a certain amount of weeks and so on. But if you look at that and purposely drive through those when that light is off, you most likely will end up with another two-year emissions and be just fine and giving you some time and some grace to figure this out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Well, it’s good to know. Good to know that there’s some possible options there. Or just run it a little bit longer and hotter every now and then, I guess.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, try to keep that cat efficiency up. Get it cleaned out. Help it as far as that goes. And again, I’m speculating. I might get some text messages on this that, you know, do this, do that. Well, again, every symptom and everything that you’re telling me would lead me to believe that that it’s a catalyst efficiency issue is what you really have going on.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Very good. Appreciate the information. You betcha, Paul.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, thank you. Okay. Thanks, John. All right. Thank you, Paul. Appreciate you very much. Let’s get one more in before the break. John, go ahead. You’re next.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, John, hey, I’ve got a chance to pick up a 2013 Toyota Avalon sedan. 30,000 miles, been setting five, six years in storage. I would imagine that’s going to need new batteries, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
Probably need a battery. I would start with a complete, you know, fluid change on that car if you do end up with the car. By the way, great car. I cannot say one bad word about that car at all. That is a fabulous car and one that would be worth, if you can buy it for the right price, would it be worth going through and doing some of these things?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, what do you think the battery runs?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I mean, we’re really quick. By the time you do battery and run through all fluids, just to price things out so you know you can buy the car correctly as a part of your budget, I would factor in about $2,500.
SPEAKER 15 :
Can you get them that reasonable?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I meant the work that you need to do to the car.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ve been quoted up to maybe 6,000 for that big battery for the electric car.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, to bring it back up to… No, what I mean, yeah, what I’m saying is once you own the car, what you’ll need to do maintenance-wise, including a battery, plan on about a $2,500 budget. So let’s say you buy the car for $5,000, you’re going to have $7,500 in it. So when you start talking to the person selling it, keep in mind you’re going to spend about $2,500 freshening it up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, what’s a car that’s running with those mileage and everything, basically, what do you think they’re worth?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and there’s always that starting point with the person wanting to sell it. Have they given you any indicator of what they want to sell it for?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, no, it’s going to be an auction, you know. It’s going to be an auction.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, again, I would say that car, and some might think I’m high, but I don’t think I am. That mileage, that car, what it is, if you could pick that car up for $5,000 and put $2,500 in it, you’d have a really great car for $7,500. I mean, you’d have a dream car for $7,500.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s kind of what I was thinking, but, you know, not knowing electric cars and not knowing what the main battery run kind of had me jittery, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, really quick, so is it an Avalon hybrid, or is it just a straight Avalon? It’s a hybrid, yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s a hybrid. You won’t have to put a battery.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you won’t need a battery. You might need a main battery, and same thing would apply. That’s what I mean, a main one, yeah. No, no, no, you’ll be fine. At that kind of mileage, the hybrid battery will be fine. You’ll have no issues with that whatsoever. Still plan on about 2,500 to go through all of the fluids on that car correctly and doing the regular main chassis battery, not the hybrid battery. Same thing applies. And, again, if you could buy that car for what we’re talking, be a great car to own.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that battery, you’ve got to remember, that’s, what, 12 years old?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s not being used, though, so it doesn’t matter. You’ll be fine with it. You’ll have no issues. That’s a different kind of battery. That’s right, different battery.
SPEAKER 25 :
It’s not the same kind of battery.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you will, yeah, that battery just sitting is not doing anything. You’re not going to degrade it at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, well, appreciate your help.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re very welcome, Paul, or John. Thank you very much for listening. All right, we’ll take a break. We’ll come right back. Donovan, hang tight. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Just got a text message in, by the way, from a listener that we were talking to a couple of weeks ago that one of the Napa stores had recommended on the catalytic converter efficiency to use the product called CatClean, which he did, and it worked, and then it didn’t work. Anyways, what he’s saying is we’re right on the money with that diagnosis in that particular scenario because he’s got a very, very similar issue. So, John, if you’re still listening, yeah, I agree. I hate to say, I think that’s probably the track that you’re going to be on. Thank you for the text message, by the way, and the validation on that. I appreciate that as well. Donovan, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, John. Thanks for taking the call. And, hey, thanks for returning the text I sent to you last week.
SPEAKER 07 :
No problem.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, yes, and it comes in two colors. I think three, actually. I think it comes in black, white, and gray. Don’t quote me on the white. I do know for black and gray for sure. Go to one of the Napa stores that has a paint department, and what I mean by that is that store will service collision centers. All the stores can get it, but the stores that don’t do this may not be as familiar and even know how to look up the product as well. But if you go to the stores that actually have the Martin Senior Department, I guess you could say, Collision Department, they can get that for you relatively easily. They might even have it in stock if they service some collision centers. You can buy it by the quart and by the gallon.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s great stuff. I’ve got an old equipment trailer I’m putting back on the road.
SPEAKER 07 :
Perfect, perfect. That’s exactly. In my fleet shop, Donovan, we use it to, you know, in the wintertime, you know, for sanders and everything on the flatbeds and stuff, and they just get so tore up by the salt and the rust and so on. We use that product almost annually, maybe not quite, but at least every other year to do exactly what you’re talking about. It works fabulous.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, cool. Second one was on a BG product. You had the guy from K’s and Land on a while back, and he was talking about it. A real mega oil change you can do with the BG product, not the ERG, I do that all the time on my gassers, but I got a 7301 diesel that I’m going to rebuild the turbo on and I want to flush that engine system out when I get all tore apart. And it’s like a three-part deal or something.
SPEAKER 07 :
On a diesel, and I know you remember the call, or I remember who we had on and so on. On a diesel, though, remember that diesels don’t carbon up and have the same issues that a gas engine does. And even the carbon they build is really soft. So a diesel engine is completely different. In fact, diesel fuel itself is a very good cleaner. It’s got a lot of detergency to it. So the reality is just do a regular oil change like you would normally do. There is no flushing, nothing along those lines you need to worry about doing at all.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, okay. Sounds good.
SPEAKER 07 :
So no need to, you know, go out of your way, spend any extra money, do anything along those lines. Just make sure you’re using a good high quality, you know, that’s a 1540 weight oil you’re going to use on that particular engine. And as long as you’re doing that, you won’t have any, you’ll have no problems whatsoever. You’ll be fine.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, it all makes good sense. Thanks, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
You bet, Donovan. Thank you very much. And, yeah, that’s a misconception, I think, in the whole kind of automotive world. And if you haven’t owned a diesel, guys that own diesels know this, but until you own one, you may not really realize it. We all think of carbon buildup in an engine because even back when we were kids and you’d pull the heads off a small block Chevy and you’d look inside and there’d be all this carbon buildup inside the combustion chamber or the valves and the intake manifolds used to carbon up something fierce on a small block Chevy. They’d even make the entire crossway path, you know, the heat-up passage, you know, they would literally carbon that up so bad that it would become solid and the choke wouldn’t work and so on, and you’d put an electric choke on to fix it when, in fact, it was just all carboned up. Anyways, long story short, we all think that that’s just carbon in general, and it is on a gasoline-type engine. That’s exactly it. Carbon gets so hard. It’s like coal. I mean, I don’t know how else to describe it. It literally becomes almost coal. It’s that hard. On a diesel, it’s just the opposite of that. It becomes kind of this spongy, soft material. Yes, it will carbon up, but not in that same way, and it’s very easy. to decarbon a diesel engine because that carbon just not that they won’t carbon up like an egr and some things like that they will but the carbon is so easy to remove on the diesel side over the you know gasoline side they’re not one in the same so you don’t treat them the same way they’re completely different in that regard and that’s the one advantage the diesel side has over the gas side is you know the whole fuel itself and what’s being done there just two completely different products and, well, approaches to how an engine works in general. The diesel working off of compression to ignite, squeezing that, creating friction and heat and so on, and making that explosion happen by compression, not by an actual spark plug, which is what happens in a regular four-stroke petroleum-based gasoline engine is that’s all done off of timing and when the spark plug fires and so on. Two different products, two different ways the carbon… is is being um built up i guess steve would be the best way for me to say that generated yeah generated yeah thank you generate that’s what i was looking for and on and we had this question earlier on the direct injection engines which anymore is almost everything on the road there’s but a few non-direct injection engines you could almost say you know here’s the list of the non-direct injections not the direct injection engines just because of how many direct injections there are Directing GDIs, we call them. And the realization is they carbon up worse. And if you think about it, the reason for that is because in the older vehicles, carbureted and even port injection to where they are injecting the fuel out of the injector into the intake runner of the intake manifold, typically they were not directly in the head. A direct injection engine. That name means something. We’re directly injecting into the combustion chamber itself with an injector in the combustion chamber. In the head itself is now where the injector is at, meaning there is no gas wash on the backside of the intake valves or anything along those lines. And every engine has blow-by. People don’t think about that, but every engine, when you shut it off, and even running, will have a certain amount of blow-by. There’s a certain amount of gases, if you would, that are coming past the rings and so on. It’s just the way an engine works. In fact, when they get too much blow-by, then the engine is bad, and we need to go in and do other work. But every engine has a certain amount of blow-by. Well, when you don’t have anything to wash that off of the intake valves, because deposits in that… In a port injection or carbureted engine, those things would be washed through the additives and things that were in the fuel to help wash some of that off. Not all, but it would, if you use the right fuel, and that’s a whole other conversation, but the right fuel and additives and so on, you could get that washed to work and really help that out. You don’t have that ability now because that… That injector is right in the head, directly shooting into the combustion chamber. So the valves are only letting in air. That’s exactly right. Now, what they’re trying to do to kind of help this, and this just shows you how big of a problem this is, a lot of the newer GDI engines, I’m talking 2025, probably 2026 and beyond, A lot of the manufacturers now are starting to put another injector back into the intake manifold to help, yeah, to squirt a little bit of fuel into help with some of what I’m talking about, realizing that the carbon deposits can get so heavy that it affects engine performance. So let’s help that by putting an injector. Not just the direct injector that’s in the head, but let’s put one in the intake as well to try to solve that problem. So that tells you guys listening that that’s how big of a problem it is that we’ve now got the engineers trying to figure out how do we eliminate that. Let’s add another injector back into the engine. in front of, you know, the combustion chamber itself. And, again, that’s a whole other now programming and so on because you’re going to have two fuel deliveries. And, frankly, by the way, think about how that will be down the road when something doesn’t run right. Okay, which injector is it that we now have problems with? I mean, Steve’s over here thinking, oh, geez, one more thing now we’ve got to go tackle. That’s what happens with modern cars is there’s more and more things that can go wrong. And anymore, folks, it’s why a lot of the do-it-yourselfers, I mean, look around the car show here that we’re at at Leprino Foods. And the reality is there’s a lot of these cars here that guys can work on themselves because it’s older technology, they’re carbureted, they’re timing, and some of these might even have your points in them and so on and the reality is a lot of these can be worked on the old quote-unquote fashion way well the new way of doing it is you need a computer work on the computer i don’t know how to say it now the other misconception before we go to break is most people think we just put the computer in it’ll just read all this magic stuff out tell you what’s wrong uh… it gives you data as to what’s going wrong and what may be happening in live data at times even stored data as to what’s going on but no it does not tell you do this This is your problem. Fix this. Now, the farther we get into OBD2 and the new system we have, the better that’s getting as to what that problem might be. But in all cases, you still have to go through the diagnosis process of here’s my problem. Here’s the actual data that I’m receiving. And in some cases, what’s causing that data to be that way? That’s what the technician has to be smart enough now to go back and say is, why does this data? Look, this is like a doctor going in. You get an EKG on your heart, and there’s a little blip. The doctor is saying, okay, I know there’s a blip there. What’s causing that? What do we have going on that’s making that happen? Your car is not much different in that regard. So, all right, guys, we’ll be right back. We’ve got plenty of lines open. Give us a call. We’ll get your questions answered. 303-477-5600. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560 again. We are live at Loprino Foods, 1830 West 38th Street. We’re going to be on air until about 1 o’clock, so about a half an hour left is all, but the show goes on until 2 o’clock, so feel free, come by. There’s still lots of food and drink and everything here, and lots of cars still. In fact, we have filled up not only the main parking lot we’re in, but the auxiliary parking lots around us as well, so lots of cars here. Group insurance analyst with us. Main reason we’re here, by the way, is his involvement with all of this, and we appreciate being out. I wish I would have kept track. It’s the first one of these we did, Paul, but it’s been probably close to a decade we’ve been doing this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you never do that on the first one.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. We should.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because you never think, you know, I’m going to do it again. And then 10 years later, you’re still doing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
You were still doing it, yeah. You don’t think that, but you’re right. Steve Horvath from Geno’s with us as well from the Centennial West Group. End of town, northwest end of town, or sorry, southwest end of town, as I should say. I say that a lot during the week, so I should know that off the top of my head. Back to the insurance side, Paul, we were talking earlier about, you know, find out what you’re, you know, if you’re thinking about buying a new car, which it is that time of the year where people are thinking of new cars and so on, and I have heard and seen the same thing you were talking about earlier where, and this is what made me think about it, is somebody’s thinking, I’m going to go buy such and such a car. Okay, that’s great. You know, free country, go buy whatever you want to. But then they get the car bought, and they’re like, oh, crap, I had no idea that the insurance insurance you know or the registration even was going to be you know xyz and it’s far above what i thought you know i was going to need to budget to make this all happen mainly because they didn’t say hey paul i’m thinking about buying such and such you know what’s my rates going to be on that because then all your questions come in well how often are you going to drive it is it going to be your daily driver are we placing a vehicle You know, give me some of the equipment that’s on the car. What model is the car exactly? What’s your driving record? What’s your driving record? Exactly. All of those different things come into play as to what these costs are going to be. And unfortunately, a lot of people, that’s secondarily instead of being primary.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s unfortunate, and people buying homes do the same thing, that there’s much greater cost involved than just the purchase of that vehicle. Correct. And especially for people that just get in on that. Oh, they’re just squeezing by. Yeah, and what payment do you need?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think the same thing, Paul, happens on cars. Again, unfortunately, they go in the dealership, and the sales guy is, hey, what’s your payment? What are you looking to get out of it? And maybe that magic number, which right now the average is $750. I know for a lot of people that sounds astonishing, but let’s say it’s $750. Okay, I want a $750 payment. Okay, so they get them all squeezed in. They get that worked out. Well, depending upon the car you bought, what if your insurance is now another $100 a month?
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because, by the way, it could be depending upon what you just bought. Right. So now it’s not $750, it’s $850.
SPEAKER 08 :
And the same thing happens to people who buy homes. And now you’ve got a mortgage, and now you’ve got to add the insurance in. And then depending on the house you bought compared to the old house, you may have just bought a much bigger house. That’s right. And all of a sudden the insurance costs go up, or maybe the age of the home could have an impact. What if you bought an older home? Okay. And that could have a huge impact on the premium.
SPEAKER 07 :
When’s the last time it was remodeled? When have the upgrades been done? What’s the roof look like? On and on we go. So again, folks, we’re just trying to get you prepared when it comes to the car side, the insurance side. Now, one thing, and I talked about this yesterday in my other show, Ready Radio, on Friday. And the one thing that I think a lot of people also miss, and I get it, not everybody can do this. So please, that’s the caveat I’m throwing in, is I understand that everybody has different budgets and what they can and can’t do. But I also know, Paul, that One of the best ways to save money on insurance is raise your deductible. In other words, do some self-insurance, get that deductible up as high as possible even, knowing the insurance company then knows that, oh, well, I know John’s not going to nickel and dime because he’s got a $5,000 deductible, meaning that anything up to $5,000 he’s responsible for anyway. So the reality is we have a little chance of John just turning in minor claims because he won’t because he’s got a $5,000 deductible, meaning that premium gets lowered, right? Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, that’s correct. And, you know, if you buy a car and you have a payment, that means you have a loan, and you’re going to be required to have insurance. Right. You’re going to have a choice.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re going to have to have comp and collision on it, not just liability. That’s right. But they don’t dictate to you deductibles. Right. They’re not going to say, hey, you have to cover the windshield at a zero deductible or a 50 deductible. So you’ve got some flexibility there. You say, okay, well, we won’t do that. full glass will just be part of the policy deductible. Right. Okay. And the same with your comp and collision deductibles. The insurance company is probably going to push on you a 500 collision, 250 comp. You could go 1,000, 1,000 or $1,500, $1,500, whatever, you know, to bring that premium down.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or in my case, I’m using an exact example. In my case, it’s five grand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Five grand.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because I want to save money on the premium. Right. I don’t care about that part of it. I want the premium savings.
SPEAKER 08 :
So even though they require you have the insurance, you do have some flexibility underneath. Correct. And that’s where you do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s right. That’s right. And, again, for me, folks, because I don’t have that many claims on purpose because I do a lot of things on my own and even out of my own pocket because I’m very particular anyway. So there’s a lot of things I’m just going to do on my own. And knowing that, I don’t need that $100 or $500 deductible. I want that because I want to save overall on the premium itself, Paul. That’s what I’m looking at.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I know when I don’t have that first dollar coverage on my windshield and I see a little nick or something.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re getting it fixed. I am. Right away. That same day in some cases. $50 to get it fixed. That’s exactly right. Exactly right. Right. Jeff in Montana, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, good morning, gents. Afternoon, gents. Good. A couple of years ago, I went to ACA and your American Collector Insurance on your recommendation, Paul, and those premiums have been very low, and I wanted to say thank you for that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re welcome. Thank you for bringing it up, yes. American Collector, they’re a good company, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is that the best one? I mean, have things changed in three or four years? Should I go out and get a rebate on that?
SPEAKER 08 :
After three, four years, it’s not a bad idea to review. They are competitive, just like Hagerty’s competitive. Once again, as we talked about earlier, it’s a market. It’s not a high-risk market for the insurance companies. These are cars that have driven very low miles. This is the second time I’ve had my car out this year. It may be out two more times. And I have some I haven’t pulled out. Right. That’s exactly what happens. And so it’s sitting in the garage and they’re getting paid a premium on it with a relatively low risk. So in general, these premiums should not be escalating the way normal insurance premiums have been escalating.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. And you had an earlier caller, John, who talked about going to, he was eligible to VA, and so he was looking at dropping Medicare Part B. As a retired Air Force guy, I qualify for TRICARE, so that’s actually my alternate payer on Medicare. Sure. But when I went to, I just had a curiosity a couple years back, I went and checked with VA to see what they would offer in terms of health care. And I found out, even after 28 years, I was not eligible for medical coverage under the VA because of my income and the fact that I had no disability rating. So according to the VA, a fully capable, able person who makes over a certain amount, they will not pay any Medicare costs or any medical costs on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, so before he dropped anything he’s got, make sure he’s eligible for VA because I since went up for disability ratings and I’ve gotten those. Um, but it was really interesting when, when I found out, uh, uh, that was, Part of my reason, just a part for voting against our, at the time, current Democrat senator here from the state of Montana.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 09 :
He’s now out, John Tesser. But he was so proud of his work with the VA and everything he was doing for us. And I went, wait a minute, you’re my senator and I can’t even get medical coverage?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, right, right, right, right, right. Yep, makes sense.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dad, I wonder if the caller earlier was actually on TRICARE.
SPEAKER 07 :
John and Shane, I don’t know. Good question. I have no idea.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because when you turn 65 and you go to Medicare, Tricare becomes your secondary payer, but only if you get Medicare Part B. So I have to pay that $185 for my wife. Right, I see. And the dreaded Irma did get me one year because I converted my wife’s IRA, and we went up over the limit, and… You had to pay, I forget, $900 a month between the two of us for a year?
SPEAKER 06 :
Geez. For the two of us. Oh, yeah, sure. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it went from $370 to $9 something. Wow. So be very careful when you’re doing things. Get some advice before you do anything major.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good point. Great point, Jeff. That was a sneaky tax that they put in. Great point. Great point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jeff, thanks, man, as always. We appreciate you. Let’s go to Russ and Cheyenne. Go ahead, Russ.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, I had a quick question for you. One of the guys I work with has got a 98 GMC 2500 with a 454 in it. Yep. And he’s got a fuel injector that’s leaking. And so it’s time to just put a whole new set in. So he, I mean, obviously he made a mistake by buying it just off the internet, but he bought a set of Bosch injectors and had nothing but trouble with them. And I’m like, well, The guy who bought them from obliterated all the serial numbers on them and everything. So you can’t even tell what the flow rates were or anything like that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so he’s going to have to buy another set of injectors. And I’m just wondering what is the preferred injector to put back down there?
SPEAKER 07 :
On a GM Adelphi. Just Adelphi? Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because that was kind of their, back then that was GM’s company they owned that they since have spun off, of course, but back in the day that would have been what they were originally anyways.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Okay. Yeah, I just, because he started, after he put the new injectors in, he started looking at all the fuel trims and everything, and it was just trying to pull all the fuel back out of the truck. And I’m like, dude, you have no idea what injectors you put in that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, that could have been for somebody that supercharged something or turbocharged or who knows what. I mean, you know how that works, Russ. Who knows?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that’s what I said. You could have one or two. or four that are 20 pounds. You could have some that are 30 pounds.
SPEAKER 07 :
You don’t know. Yep. That’s exactly right. Okay. Who knows? Okay. Nope. Good. You’re on the right track. Thanks, Russ. Appreciate you. All right. We’ll take our last break. We’ll come back. Bob and Thornton, hang tight. We’ve got one more call coming in. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Hi, John, is your insurance guy still there?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Paul’s still here. Yep, absolutely. It’s Paul and I. I got a question.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I got a question for him. What is the only thing that you’re required to have insurance for?
SPEAKER 08 :
Auto insurance. Liability. Liability, 25, 50, 15 is a state minimum required insurance. Which isn’t enough, but that’s another topic.
SPEAKER 18 :
But that’s the requirement.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s it. Well, that’s ridiculous. California only requires $10,000. But nevertheless, what other insurance am I required to have? Homeowner’s insurance?
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re not required to have homeowners insurance unless you have a mortgage. A mortgage company will require that you have it. But otherwise, you don’t have to have it. If you want to take the risk, go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
I do not have homeowners insurance because I haven’t had a mortgage since 1988. How about health insurance? Am I required to have health insurance? Yes. Not anymore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, they changed that, didn’t they? Well, yeah, you’re required, but there’s no penalty if you don’t have it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, that’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
There we go. So there’s no requirement. So really no requirement. No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Technically, Obamacare makes it where you’re supposed to have. Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Why do I have to have car insurance?
SPEAKER 08 :
Why?
SPEAKER 07 :
Because if you run into somebody else, the liability is going to pick up whatever you’ve done to them. Right. Because in most cases, Bob, very few people have enough assets and cash to handle an accident when they would run into somebody else. So by state law, you have to have insurance for that. Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, John. I have enough money.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but you’re different. Most don’t. Right. The majority don’t.
SPEAKER 17 :
I have money. What’s the minimum requirement?
SPEAKER 1 :
$25,050.15.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s the state minimum. Okay, I have $2 million that I can put my hands on today and an $850,000 house with no mortgage on it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Why do I have to have car insurance?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, why would you want to risk those and put that at risk? When Frank Azar comes after you. Yeah, exactly. Why risk it?
SPEAKER 17 :
What am I risking to buy $25,000 worth of insurance when I have $30 million?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in your case, you need an umbrella policy to make sure Frank Azar doesn’t come after you because you’re different. So in your case, you need more insurance than the average because you have more on the line.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. You have more to lose. That’s right. That’s my choice.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s my choice. It is your choice.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it is. You’re right. But if you get caught driving without insurance, you’re going to get a ticket.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, that’s legal. As far as civil liability, I don’t need it. I got plenty of money. I’ve been driving for 60 years. You know how long I’ve had collision and comp insurance in 60 years? Probably not.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that’s your choice. But you’re barking up the wrong tree. You’ve got to talk to your legislator.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. Thank you. That is not for me to decide.
SPEAKER 08 :
We could argue about whether it’s right or wrong, but we can’t do anything about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
No more than I don’t agree with some of the speed limits we have around town. I thought they were suggestions. For me, they kind of are. I’m going to squeeze one more question in, Bob. I appreciate the phone call. We have a listener that was actually walking around that has a question. I’m sorry, I don’t know your name. Oh, hang on, George. Let me turn up your microphone. There we go, George. How are you going?
SPEAKER 24 :
George Trujillo.
SPEAKER 07 :
George, welcome. What question do you have?
SPEAKER 24 :
I have a 351 Windsor in my truck.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. What year?
SPEAKER 24 :
56 Ford F100. Okay. And? And I thought it was vapor locking. Okay. So what I did is I had new lines put in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Steel?
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah. Electrical fuel pump.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. By the tank, I’m assuming.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yes. I had them all redone and moved.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 24 :
From the heat.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 24 :
and the other day it left me stranded and a buddy worked on worked on it while he came and got me and he says i’m not getting fire okay i got an msd box on it the msd box could be getting hot as well and then uh yep okay we just replaced underneath the third uh the two raider cap yep four der spark yep yeah my buddy put all that on okay took the old one out put the new one in right okay any difference i haven’t drove it i didn’t want to take a chance bringing it over here and then uh maybe the box the truck i own the truck for 13 years and the guy before me probably had it a good 15 okay and they build it from the ground up my truck okay But I’m just having these little teeny problems. I can’t. Maybe my gas tank is bad. It’s all got stuff in it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it could be. And you can look at that. In fact, in today’s world, with the borescope cameras we’ve got that hook up to your phone, you can, on Amazon, $30, $35. I’m not exaggerating. You can buy one of those. You could literally take that camera. feed it down into the tank, shine a flashlight in there, and you could look at the fuel and any debris and all that all on your own without doing anything that you’d have to send out, and that’d be an easy check to see do you have a bunch of scale and debris and things coming off. If you do, well, then you know what to do. We’ve got to get the tank out, get it all cleaned out, boiled, and so on. If that’s not a problem and you don’t have any debris in there, then we’ve got to start looking at all the other components, which you’re kind of doing right now. And I will tell you, doing the steel lines, putting the fuel pump back by the tank, the pusher pump back of the tank is a good idea. I will tell you that some of those electronic boxes, depending upon whose they are, how old they are, and so on, that can be problematic.
SPEAKER 24 :
It’s probably over 20 years old.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and that could be part of it.
SPEAKER 24 :
How can you tell when they’re going out?
SPEAKER 07 :
Other than you having problems with, there isn’t. There isn’t. Is there a way they test them? Here’s a good test for you. Start carrying around a little thermos of ice water, and the next time it does that, that box itself takes some of that water out, put it right on top of that box, just pour it right on top. It’s not going to damage it at all. The water won’t. It’ll cool it off, though, and if it fires back up, you know you’ve got a problem with the box. Easy way to determine if the box is bad or not.
SPEAKER 24 :
I just can’t pinpoint it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they can get very frustrating. I mean, I remember back in the days when this was very common because we didn’t have all the electronic components and fuel injection and everything we’ve got today. That was a very common problem back in the day.
SPEAKER 24 :
Okay, I’ve got a question for you, too. Like, I’ll have it at a show. It’ll sit in the sun. It won’t start. Okay, I’ve got to get it home. I’ll get it home. It sits in the garage overnight, first thing in the morning. Boom, it starts.
SPEAKER 07 :
The heat is a factor in a lot of what you’re talking about. That’s the issue. Now, one thing for a lot of you guys listening with the older cars, you included, when you redo those lines and if you have the opportunity to do so, If you can, and it’s hard in some cases to do this, but if you can put a return filter. So they make fuel filters that have a return line built in where you can add a line going back to the tank where that fuel is circulating. The electric pump starts and it circulates the fuel. It’s not just pushing the fuel up. It’s getting to the filter and then running the excess back to the tank, keeping that fuel cool all the time. If you have the ability to do that on any of these older cars, it’s a huge help. Sometimes you can do that, sometimes you can’t, depending upon where the tank is, how you can, you know, in a lot of cases you can dump that fuel right back in the neck, you know, right at the top of the tank. It just depends on your setup and how you can arrange that. I apologize, we’re out of time, so hopefully that helps you out. No, and I appreciate you stopping by. Thank you very much for that. Paul, LaNagra GIA, thank you so much, man. I appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great time today.
SPEAKER 07 :
Always a joy. Steve from Geno’s as well, thank you for all that you do for us. As I said earlier, and I mean this, the reason why this show works each week is because of guys like Steve, guys like Paul, all of the other ads, by the way, that you hear. It’s because of them. that make this program happen each and every week, and I cannot say that enough. I appreciate that. Next week, we’re going to be up at the Rocky Mountain Airport. We’ve got another car show up there, and it’s always a big one as well. They lay out all the tarmac, so all of that south or north side of the airport, I should say. We fill it all up with cars. It’s going to be a great show. They’ve added on this year, making it even bigger than it was last year, so come by. We should be in exactly the same spot we were last year, so those of you that came out, you’ll know where to come by. Larry, Charlie, thank you guys back in the studio. We appreciate it greatly. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 22 :
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