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Join the discussion on the evolution of car technology and its impact on vehicle longevity. The show explores advancements like fuel injection, overdrive transmissions, and how these innovations have transformed how we maintain our cars. Plus, enjoy engaging listener stories about driving in extreme conditions, the importance of choosing the right tires, and a deep dive into why GM engines are considered a reliable choice for replacements.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, and we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us today. Had a lot of text messages today. In fact, I answered quite a few during the break, and when I said there was a live listener from Lincoln, I had like three other people from Lincoln, Nebraska text in as well. So you guys have a little happy family in Lincoln. Thank you all for listening and calling in, and we appreciate it very much. Somebody also asked me on an older vehicle, Very, very low miles. Should they change oil? Yes. So rule of thumb on cars that sit, because some of you may have some, classics and so on. And it does change depending upon whether you’re in a climate control environment or not. So what I mean by that is, are you able to park it inside? Is it heated? Not to be cooled in the summer, of course, but is it heated in the winter to where you’re keeping things at least 50, 55 degrees or so? And the reason I say that is because if you’re in a climate-controlled situation, you don’t have the big, huge temperature swings. You’re not going to build up some of the condensation you would normally build up. In that particular case, if you don’t drive it – At all, and I mean literally at all, maybe there’s an entire year where it never moves, and those things can happen. I know some of you have vehicles along those lines. I do. Sometimes a vehicle, just for whatever reason, you just don’t get around to driving it, and it may just sit all year long. If that’s the case, does it need changed annually? I don’t think so, no. If it’s climate controlled, you’ve done things correctly, high quality filter, good oil, and so on, which, of course, in these classic cars you’re typically going to do, would you need to change it every year? No. Would I change it every other? Yes. Now, I’ll put a caveat with that. If it’s a carbureted type engine, an older vehicle, and you start it up even a few times a year, and maybe you don’t drive it, but you’re still firing it up and so on, at that point, because of the way chokes work and cylinder wash and so on, I would probably change it annually. if that’s a particular car you’re doing. But if it’s a car where literally you may have just put it away, put a car cover on it, and it has sat, and you haven’t done a thing with it, you put some treatment in the fuel knowing it’ll last a couple of years, honestly, pull the stick out, sniff it. Put it on a white paper towel. What do you see coming out of the oil? Does it smell gassy at all? I mean, if everything looks really good and you don’t see any abnormalities with it at all, you know what? Would I be okay running that oil in that engine? Sure I would. I would have no issues with that. Now, if you drive it some, even 200, 300 miles a year, and you do that on an annual basis, yeah, just do an annual oil change. Figure out on your calendar what month of the year you’d like to do that and do an annual oil change, and off you go. In that case, you are getting enough things in the oil, contaminants and so on, that you would be okay changing that once a year. Now, I will also say this. Are you going to destroy everything if you change it every other year? No. I’ll just be honest. No. Especially some of these newer cars where you’re on a full synthetic and the filters that are on it and so on. You put 100 miles on it this year and 100 miles next year and you want to change it every other year. Are you going to damage anything doing so? No. Sorry, you’re just not. I mean, you’re not doing enough with it at that point, and especially if it’s late model fuel injected and so on, they’re coming off of the quote-unquote choke end of things to where things are getting cleaned up that quickly. Bottom line, you have very little things going on at that point. If you wanted to run even every other year with it, you could be just fine in doing so. And I have some of these that kind of fit that description. So some of this is the voice of experience talking. If you want to be safe, though, and you just want to get things on a calendar, okay, once a year, decide when you’re going to do that, spring, fall, whatever typically would be spring, because you’re going to get things out and run them around in the summer months and so on, but that’s typically how you’d want to do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. I like what you’re saying, too. It’s really not a set it and forget it. There’s a little bit of common sense involved, right? So it’s like that policy we have in the shop. If you see something, say something. When you pull that stick, if there’s something funky going on, don’t ignore it. Change it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And thank you for saying that, Pat. And I think for a lot of folks listening… Really, that’s… Pat just said it all. It really is, in a lot of cases, common sense. And for some of you guys that are a little bit more technical, where you can really understand what’s going on inside of the engine especially, you can pull the stick, you understand what some of the smells are and so on. I mean, if you’re of that caliber of a quote-unquote do-it-yourselfer and you know some of those things, use your best judgment. You’re not going to damage anything in that particular end of things. So… I think Pat just said it all. Use common sense, which, by the way, that goes back to even some of the new car stuff on changing fluids where a dealer or somebody is telling you it’s lifetime fluid. Again, folks, common sense. Yes, fluids have come a long way in the last couple of decades. way further than they probably ever had prior to that. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that. I mean, keep in mind, we went all the way back into the days of, you know, non-detergent oil to then using detergents. And we went from single weight to multi-viscosity weight oil and on and on we go. So we made lots of changes. But I will tell you that probably in the last couple of decades, we’ve had more changes on fluids than we probably ever had in the 50 years prior. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that. The technology advancements, the molecular advancements they’ve made and how they can control the oil and so on, way different than it ever was.
SPEAKER 05 :
And… As a result, our cars are lasting a lot longer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
And more reliable.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and the things that make cars more reliable, A, to Steve’s point, oil. Overdrive transmissions to where the engines aren’t running the RPM they used to. That’s a big one. Fuel injection, where you’ve got a precise fuel mixture where you don’t have the cylinder wash you once had. And by the way, one of the ways to prove that in that these two things, literally, the oil as well, as Steve said, but really two things. You look at overdrive transmissions and fuel injection. For example, take a… 86 Chevy pickup with a 350 and see what its longevity is versus just a year later, an 87, which they didn’t make a lot of changes to the engine, by the way. They were pretty much the same engine. There was a few little things that got changed, but for the most part, same engine. Only difference is throttle body injection and an overdrive transmission. And look at how much longer that 87 would run versus the 86 with the carburetor.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, John, this progressive disclosure has got to stop. You can’t tell me now my first truck was the 86. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
And if you’d have waited one more year, you’d have had fuel injection and, honestly, totally different truck when it was all said and done. I’m not exaggerating.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s just one –
SPEAKER 17 :
example of where you can prove some of these, well, they’re major advancements. Overdrive transmissions back in the day were huge. We went through a lot of issues to get those things developed out and working correctly, and they do. And then fuel injection, of course, was the second one. But then to Steve’s point, just the modernization of even the oil itself and where we’re at with that has changed immensely also. Gary in Wheat Ridge, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, John. Thanks for taking my call. What I was calling about is I have a 2001 Chevy Silverado, and it’s got quite a bit of miles, over 200,000, 210, I think. And at some point, I decide I either want to put another replacement engine, maybe a crate motor, or is it better to rebuild the original motor?
SPEAKER 17 :
There are some places that will take your engine and redo it, although what I would tell you on a Chevy, if it were me personally, I would buy a GM replacement motor right from the dealer. This is one of the few situations where I would buy the dealer part for it, but I would buy their crate replacement engine, and I would put that back in it and go that route.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Okay. That’s where I was kind of leaning that way, but good to know.
SPEAKER 17 :
And they say that because GM for years, not ditzing other manufacturers, but GM over even a lot of the other manufacturers has had and still has a really great engine replacement program that literally they were doing all the way back in the 70s and 80s, Gary Beckman. at that time, even better than anybody else was. In fact, to the point where a lot of guys even building hot rods and things like that would buy a quote-unquote good wrench engine and go stick that in their hot rod and run that thing for hundreds of thousands of miles, and off they went. So GM’s had a great replacement engine program for years. Yes, you can buy things from Blueprint Engines and Summit and JEGS and all kinds of other places out there that sell engines, but for just a regular stock engine to replace what you’re doing right now, do it okay thanks a lot for the information you’re very welcome gary appreciate that and i know i may take some flack for that one because there’s guys out there that would you know you could up horsepower you could do this you could do that and yeah you can just keep in mind for a lot of you listening where uh depending upon the vehicle in this case it’s an 01 so it’s programmed keep in mind the 01 is already programmed to run with that engine So all of the mapping, everything that’s inside of the software for that vehicle is for that engine. Yes, I know, you can take the ECU out, have it reprogrammed, put a larger cubic inch engine in, different cam, all this kind of stuff. Yes, you can do all of that. And I used to always tell all my customers this, for every pro, there’s a con. So for everything you do along those lines, you are now taking a risk on is the programming going to be exact? Keep in mind, we need different programming at altitude than what people do at sea level, and that was always a hard thing to get done at our altitude. So you’ve got that to worry about. Are the components inside of it going to last as long as the engine I just pulled? There’s all sorts of other variables that come into play because, keep in mind, more horsepower, less longevity. Always the way it is. It’s why, for example, people always wonder, you know, why do Toyotas run so long? Well, no offense, they’re not the most powerful thing on the planet. Solid. And they’re solid, but they never made high horsepower. Anytime you up horsepower, you’re typically going to reduce some longevity. Now, the new engines, we’re getting more longevity because we’re able to get more horsepower by running higher compression, which we used to do way back in the day. And we can run higher compression because of the variable valve timing and literally changing the profile of the camshaft based upon engine needs at any given time. While you drive, yes. While you’re driving. So, so many things now that are coming into play that we couldn’t do a couple of decades ago. So, yeah, in today’s world, we are getting power and longevity. But in that era, you sacrificed one for the other. And fuel economy. And fuel economy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you for that as well, Steve. That’s right. Lines are open. We’ll come right back. 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. Bob and Thornton, go ahead, Bob.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, John. Hey, I had a nice little chit-chat with your screener. Who’s your screener today?
SPEAKER 17 :
Charlie today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I told him I was originally from Buffalo, New York, and he’s got a little bit of history there. He had a relative there and stuff. We had a little talk about that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you guys from Buffalo know Snow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, I don’t know where. And what’s his name? Charlie.
SPEAKER 17 :
Charlie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Charlie, I don’t know where he’s originally from, but he used to go there and visit some uncle or something all the time. Anyway, I got a story about incorrect car and incorrect tires. Sure, go ahead. I’m going to preface this by saying my dad spent his entire career working for Dunlop Tire.
SPEAKER 17 :
So he knew a little bit about tires, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I thought I was a big man on campus. I was 17 going on 18, and I scrounged up enough money to buy a 1963 Chevy SS convertible, 409 four-speed with 411 rear end. You can imagine how poor that was in the snow. So I asked my dad, I said, what kind of tires can I put on this to get me through the Buffalo winter? And he said, none. He said, this is what you do. Go and find yourself a rust bucket beater that runs and buy that for the winter and put some decent tires on it, starting with studded snows on the rear and, you know, something decent on the front. And I did that, and I think I paid $150 for a 61 Plymouth that was not much to look at. And I bought a good set of tires, and I think the tires were more money than what I paid for the car. And I drove that through that winter, and then I didn’t make it to the next winter because Lyndon Johnson thought I would be a good soldier.
SPEAKER 07 :
And away you went.
SPEAKER 10 :
My dad, that was the first thing he did. He got rid of that Supersport Chevy with a 411 rear end. Not only the gears in the rear end, but, I mean, there was so much power in that car. You could not keep that thing on the road.
SPEAKER 17 :
Too bad you don’t have that car now, Bob. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 10 :
Fun. Well, yeah, well.
SPEAKER 17 :
The 409s are, as you know, bringing pretty good money today. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, that was probably my last nickel that I bought that car from. Your first caller, though, reminded me of something. Yeah. What was his name? He was talking about the— Bill.
SPEAKER 17 :
Our very first caller was Bill from Lakewood.
SPEAKER 10 :
Second caller. He was talking about that Tesla pickup.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, Jerry.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so it reminded me of a car that Pontiac used to make. It was called an Aztec.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And apparently it wasn’t too bad of a car as long as when you got out of it and walked away, you didn’t turn around and look at it.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s right. So, Bob, I think Aztec means plastic cladding. I think that’s the Indian name for plastic cladding. Am I wrong in that?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because that car had more plastic cladding than anything you’ve ever seen on the road. Maybe a Honda Element’s about the only thing else close to it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, they used to call those an elephant back in the day, but they’re pretty good. You know, I’ll tell you a Pontiac that I had that was really, really pound-for-pound, dollar-for-dollar, best car I’ve probably ever bought, and it was… It was batched as a Pontiac, but it was actually a Toyota. And it was a Vibe, but not a regular Vibe. It was a GT, and the GT Pontiac had a Camry engine and a five-speed manual. That was a fat car.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can imagine, yeah. Pontiac batch and Toyota reliability and just fun.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they built those in Fremont, California, side-by-side with the…
SPEAKER 17 :
The Toyota’s version of that was called… Did they do that back in the day to avoid some tariffs or something, or why did they do that, Bob?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t know, but you know Toyota manufactures side-by-side with Mazda down in Huntsville, Alabama?
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
For model cars?
SPEAKER 17 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I think they’re getting into that kind of thing, but… I don’t know. You know, most of those Tesla pickups that I see on the road.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, Cybertrucks.
SPEAKER 10 :
More than half of them are clad with wrap.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, they’re wrapped. Yeah, you’re right. A lot more. Which, actually, Elon says not to do because the way the stainless and everything is is he doesn’t want that covered up, so they don’t recommend that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
He should have made a better-looking truck. Oh, man, things ugly as all get out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, they’re not very appealing.
SPEAKER 17 :
They are not eye-appealing at all.
SPEAKER 10 :
And all the other Tesla models need an upgrade. I mean, they’ve been the same for a long time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep, you’re right on that, Bob. I say that all the time. You can look at one that’s 10 years old versus a new one, and there’s not a lot of difference.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s kind of like Mercedes. Remember Mercedes made the same style car for 10 years?
SPEAKER 17 :
For a long time, yep. They kind of still do that, Bob. Mercedes is kind of even today known for that. They’ll run a car until it’s pretty long in the tooth. Yeah. I mean, no offense, look at the G-Wagon. They did a little bit of an update on that a couple of years ago, but ultimately, a G-Wagon’s a G-Wagon, a G-Wagon. It hasn’t changed much.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, they sell them, so more power to them. No, Bob, thanks.
SPEAKER 15 :
Appreciate that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Great stories. I appreciate that very much. Jeff in Montana, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, good afternoon. Yeah, you guys talking about the S-TEC. Reminded me of a meme I saw yesterday. Recently it said, let me explain, Jimmy, and has a picture of an Aztec and a picture of a DeLorean, and then down below is a picture of the Cybertruck. It says, when a Pontiac Aztec and a DeLorean love each other very much.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s pretty good, actually. That’s pretty good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I just have to say, I really appreciate Soren coming on and doing… Yeah, because honestly, Jeff, that’s what… You guys all know, I test drive and look at and I’m around a lot of different vehicles. Tesla not being one of those. They’ve got a whole different way of marketing and so on, and I just don’t have a lot of experience with a Tesla, period. So that was great. I was very happy to hear that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and not only that, but the way that young man has come along, I think the first time I heard him, he was 10 or 11 years old, and And he’s really grown and matured a lot. That’s one of the benefits of your show is to see people, you know, see life happen to people as we go along with this. So I just want to tell you I appreciate that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I appreciate you and Soren as well. And he’s a great young man and I appreciate him and his family greatly. And as you know, as you can tell, he’s raised right.
SPEAKER 15 :
yeah yeah uh good job mom and dad yes good job yeah an eastern montana kid he has all the right values yeah that’s exactly right yeah uh and uh one of the things you were talking about tires and cars and snow and absolutely dreads and stuff and and one of the things that i never really thought about until i came across it’s one of those things where you have kind of a little mini aha moment is when you stop to think of it is the contact part of the tire on the ground is only typically about four inches by six inches. Yep, that’s right. So if you think you have a multi-thousand pound vehicle, some approaching two to three tons.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
heading down the road, and the only thing you have to control it with are those four little patches of rubber.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s a really good way of putting it in perspective. And why I always say, Jeff, having good tires makes the difference in the world on how that car operates.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s absolutely essential because… In rain, it has to squeeze all that water out of the way, and it never does all of it. So even that 4-by-6-inch patch is going to be diminished.
SPEAKER 17 :
Actually, yeah, and there’s a misconception on that as well. Most people think that it does squeeze out all of it, and it does squeeze some out. It used to be the old ad for that, but really… The way a tire works in rain, if it’s doing it properly, is it holds the water, throws it off behind you, and it’s actually catching the water, still giving that imprint, throwing it off behind you, and then having a clean tire as it goes back around. And honestly, Jeff, that’s what makes a really good wet tire. For example, you look at some of the Formula 1 cars and stuff that run in the rain, and look at the stream of water that’s dumping out of the back of the tire as it’s running around. It is not pushing that water. that rain out from the sides, it’s literally throwing it behind them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. I never thought about that.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s a very good explanation. You need a tire that will pick that rain up and throw it behind you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, and also, the same thing as with snow. Yeah, same situation. Yep, yep. Even though it’s more of a solid, it’s acting as a fluid because it’s kind of turning particles and stuff.
SPEAKER 17 :
To your point, Jeff, I can be slower speeds. You can’t do this going down the highway, of course. But I can usually be next to folks, and you’re driving down the parkway or whatever, and it’s 35, 40 miles an hour. I can tell you how much rubber is on a tire that’s next to me just by what you explained on what’s it doing to the snow underneath the tire. If it’s throwing a bunch of snow behind it, that guy’s got really good tires. If it’s not doing much at all, and there’s not much snow coming off behind it, they’re bald.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. Being a science guy, I like that kind of thing anyway, but Just when you realize my whole life is dependent upon maybe 100 square inches.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 15 :
10 by 10 patch of four tires hitting the road.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think I need to make sure those are as good a shape as possible.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, why skimp on that? Yep. Great point. Great point, Jeff. In fact, a tire manufacturer should make an ad out of that because literally that’s how you should look at it.
SPEAKER 08 :
It all comes down to that little territory.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep, that’s right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, that little tire patch, that’s a contact footprint. Good point. Yep. So anyway, that was my idle thought of the day. You’re awesome.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thank you, Jeff. As always, appreciate you. Always good stuff. Buck and Cheyenne, hang tight. We’ll take a break. We’ll come back, give you plenty of time. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Patch Knight joining us from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Visit his shops if you’re up in that area. You can find that at drive-radio.com. Steve Horvath as well from Geno’s Auto Service. Same thing. You can find Steve also at drive-radio.com. Question came in via text line, so guys on the phone, hang tight. Listing in Utah, 2018 BMW X3. Just got an emissions test, and it said I have a cylinder misfire. What do you recommend checking next? 100,000 miles, all normal, regular maintenance done at a BMW shop in Utah would like our opinion before proceeding. So it’s got a cylinder misfire, and that came out of the emissions test test. So that’s about all we know at this point. Thoughts, guys?
SPEAKER 08 :
First thing I would say is, does it have any codes? Is the check engine light on, or did the emissions test find it early? Okay. Good point. In other words, it’s about to come on, but it’s not yet. If it’s not on yet. So typically, a test inspection diagnostic routine at a shop like ours, we should be able to identify the cylinder. Yep. Yep. Specifically. And that would be the first thing, identify the specific cylinder, and then potentially, you know, start to look at that spark plug. Maybe it’s a coil-on plug. So ignition coil are typical. What do you think, Steve?
SPEAKER 06 :
What BMW was it again? X3. X3.
SPEAKER 1 :
2018. 2018.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. I’m on that. I think you’re on that. Yeah. I mean, you’ve got to know, first of all, why is it misfiring? Is it fuel? Is it ignition? Right. And some of the things, Pat, that you’re talking about would put you down that path in determining what’s happening. Just because the emissions test is saying there’s a misfire, we want to know why. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you could be even on the induction side, maybe need the GDI cleaning, gasoline direct injection cleaning, right? Good point. Yeah, great point. So there are a few things to check, and I think the one thing that you don’t want to do is ignore it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep, absolutely. No, yeah, these are problems that, well, in this case, since the light’s not on, it will be at some point.
SPEAKER 06 :
It will be.
SPEAKER 17 :
You keep driving, it will be on.
SPEAKER 06 :
So does the Utah inspection, do they actually hook it up to OBD-II when they’re doing the test, or do we know? I don’t know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, they must or they wouldn’t have known that. Right?
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s true. They’ve got to be getting into the monitor or they wouldn’t know it’s about to come on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. So they must. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know Utah, so that one I don’t know the answer to. I believe they do, and the reason I say that is, okay, Rocky Mountains, we’re on the east side, they’re on the west side, so their air quality is arguably similar to maybe a little bit less than ours, and so I believe they are pretty heavily controlled, so I’m almost positive they’ve got OBD control. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Buck and Cheyenne, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning. Good morning, Buck. I know you’ve been to Barrett-Jackson, and that’s on one of my bucket lists.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I’m going next week. I’ve got three days programmed, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Are there things that I shouldn’t miss?
SPEAKER 17 :
By the way, I was just telling these guys because I saw the description come up, Buck. And if you’re a car guy, it is one of those to-dos. Put it on your bucket list. You need to go. My feeling, Buck, is get into town Wednesday. Go to the auction Thursday, Friday, Saturday. You don’t want to miss Friday night, Saturday night. Those are the two bigger nights. I will tell you that. There’s usually some pretty good buys, and if you’re a buyer, Thursday evening, actually all day Thursday into the evening, Friday morning, Saturday morning, typically good times to buy because most people have stayed out too late the night before, literally. They’re drinking and doing other things, and they’re not at the auction until about 10, 30 to 11. So the reality is none of the high bidding happens on even Friday and Saturday until about noon.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I’m not a bidder. I’ve got enough cards already.
SPEAKER 17 :
And, Buck, you’ll just enjoy the environment, the atmosphere. Now, I will say this as well, and since it’s a bucket list item, and you guys can take this for what it is, if you have the ability to buy a VIP package and have the upfront seating and be a little more involved in what’s going on and you can afford to do so, it’s well worth the money. Do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, we just, as of now, just have day passes.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you can upgrade somehow, even for one day, and get a VIP ticket, Buck, believe me, it is well worth doing. You get an opportunity to see some things and be up close that just the average person going with a day pass doesn’t get.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think those VIP packages are great. What, $300, $400, $500, $600 a piece?
SPEAKER 17 :
They’re very expensive. I was fortunate enough to be able to be involved in one of those with a friend that I had the very first year I went that got me a VIP, my wife and I, a VIP ticket, and we were able to one day enjoy that. And I will tell you, after having it for one day, it was well worth the experience.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, thank you.
SPEAKER 17 :
I appreciate that. You’re very welcome. And for everybody listening, it is definitely worth going to, Buck.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, the other thing. I haven’t forgot Kelpat. I haven’t forgot. I’m going to get my EcoBoost down to Fort Collins. I’m going to get there eventually.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Awesome. Sounds great. Hey, really quick, too, Buck, one other thing on Barrett-Jackson as far as parking goes. You can rent a car, drive and park and so on, but what I will tell you is by the time you actually pay for parking versus just using the valet that’s in front, do the valet in front. It’s not that much more money, and you wait in less lines, and you don’t have to walk as far.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, unfortunately, John, both my wife and I are mobility impaired and we have two scooters.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, you’ll be fine then. You’ll have up front parking anyways. You’ll be good.
SPEAKER 11 :
So that’s what we… You’ll be great. We’re driving down. We figured two days down. Oh, you’ll be fine then. And then we’re open after that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Awesome.
SPEAKER 11 :
We’ve got a Suburban with the scooter straight in the back. Awesome. I can’t walk very far, but I can still lift pretty good.
SPEAKER 17 :
You’ll have a blast, Buck. It’ll be a joy. And you have to report back to me how well you – I’m not going this year. I normally do, but my schedule, this, with everything I had to go through last year with my folks and stuff, I just can’t do it this year. But I wish I were. I’ll go next year. But have fun, Buck. Enjoy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Well, thank you for the insight. You’re very welcome, Buck.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’ll let you go. Well, thank you. Very welcome on that. I appreciate that very much. Kyle, you’re up. Go ahead. What’s going on in Dallas, by the way?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, we’ve got winter. Winter’s come back, so it’s covering plants and dripping faucets. So we’re supposed to get cold here in the next few days.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, hey, I kind of caught a little bit what you were saying about… factory-fill break-in oil. So does that oil have additive packages that help break in the engine, you know, seat the rings, and does that have better additives?
SPEAKER 17 :
I wish I could tell you exactly what the factory does on their factory fill, and if I could ever get an interview with an engineer, I could probably explain that a little better. I’m guessing, Kyle, that that yes, all of that is true, and I’m guessing it also varies a little bit from manufacturer to manufacturer, maybe even engine to engine, depending upon what they’re trying to accomplish and what’s going in the vehicle.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Well, I’ve just heard both sides of the coin. I’ve read where some guys recommend change that oil out after 1,000 miles because it’ll have particulates and filings in there, and you want to drain that.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you have that on a new engine, we’ve got other problems. So, no, there’s not going to be any of that. In fact, what I… Where a lot of this, Kyle, I’m getting from is read the owner’s manual on any new vehicle, and it will tell you, number one, they don’t want constant RPM. They want the engine RPM varying for at least the first 500 miles and, and, and. And there’s all sorts of things they tell you in the owner’s manual. And so if you base kind of what I’m saying off of that, then that’s why I come up with the reasoning that I come up with. Most of it’s coming from the owner’s manual.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think it does vary by manufacturer, for sure.
SPEAKER 17 :
The majority, though, Kyle, will tell you, no highway constant driving for at least 500 miles.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that’s what I understand. They want a lot of stop and go. They want some variable RPMs.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s right. They want some variation in the engine. Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Yeah. Well, the other issue I wanted to tell you about is kind of a hot button issue with you that you and I have talked about in the past is, you know, people who pull off to the side of the highway to change a tire. We’ve had two incidences here in the area in the last month where – One of them was a police officer who pulled over to render aid, and a driver hit the car and killed him. And then just after that, just the last couple of weeks, we had a similar incident where on a rural stretch of one of the interstates leading out of Dallas, someone had pulled off to the side of the road to uh do do some type of repair and a drunk driver hit them and it killed all four of them and two of them were brothers that were 15 and 18 years old that’s so sad so sad it really is and you know it just seems like you know dallas has a whole lot more highways and we have a whole lot more uh area to cover down here but it just seems like Two, three times a year, if not more, that is always a report on the news here.
SPEAKER 17 :
All avoidable, by the way. You reminded me of something I saw on my way down today. There was a couple of people. It looks like they were going to the airport because they had their luggage out. They were over on the side of the road on I-70 at about Dahlia or so, and they were changing the tire on the Subaru. And here’s the bad part, Kyle, and I’m not exaggerating. They weren’t 100 yards from the exit up onto Dahlia, and I could already look at the tire and tell you that it’s going to get changed either way. Why not just drive up to Dahlia, get off the highway, and change it there?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, 100%. Drive on the rim.
SPEAKER 17 :
Instead, we’ve got our luggage and everything all spread out all over the side of I-70 in a snowstorm, by the way. I mean, Kyle, I can’t think of anything more dumb to do.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I know in the past, your standpoint is, hey, if you shred a tire or you flatten a wheel, that’s what you’ve got to do. It’s not worth your life.
SPEAKER 17 :
I’d rather be alive with a bad wheel and tire than dead with a good one. Every day. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that kind of ties into what you’ve been talking about, about tires today. I think that there are things that happen on the highway that you do have to pull over. You have a blowout or you run across something. I get all that. But I also think that just doing a simple once-over on your car every once in a while, just replace that belt that needs to be replaced, replace the hose. Make sure your tires, I mean, how many people pull off by the side of the road to do a repair to do something that could have been done in a shop?
SPEAKER 17 :
Probably 90%, Kyle. I’m sorry, I’m not exaggerating, I don’t think. Probably 90%.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Literally. Most of it unavoidable. Most of it avoidable is what I’m trying to say. You know, it’s like the ripple effect. You’re actually, at some point, you may risk somebody else’s life.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Right. Yeah, in the case of what you’re talking about, a police officer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Shame. Or a family of four.
SPEAKER 17 :
Shame. Shouldn’t happen.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, really is.
SPEAKER 17 :
Kyle, appreciate you very much. Hope the weather in Dallas warms up a little bit. Chris and Aaron, you guys hang tight. We’ll come right back to you, get our last segment in. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, and we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, Patch Knight joining us today, and he is from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Steve Horvath from Geno’s as well. Aaron, you are next. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hi. Hey, Aaron. Yeah, oh, hey. Yeah. When on the 25 Rams, the HDs, when are those going to be out for press?
SPEAKER 17 :
I don’t think, from what we’ve been reading and what I’ve seen, they’re talking potentially this spring, but I’m not going to hold my breath until summer at the earliest, Aaron.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, okay. So on… So they’ve got the new ZF 8-speed.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And correct me if I’m wrong, but the co-developed GM and Ford 10-speed is based off their original BMW ZF 6-speed design.
SPEAKER 17 :
Is that right? Well, the 10-speeds in the half-tons or the 10-speeds in the HDs? Which one are you talking about? The HDs. The HDs was an Allison-approved joint venture between Ford and GM. So it wasn’t really based on anything other than maybe the old Allison, and I’m not sure how much of that even got transferred over because it’s not an Allison, as you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 12 :
Because it seemed like the F-150 10-speeds, they’re starting to have issues with those now.
SPEAKER 17 :
And so are some of the Chevys. And those were, again, a joint venture between the two, differences between the two in how they’re made and programmed and so on. So they’re not exactly the same transmission. They were developed differently. you know, together, but they’re not the same. And the same is true with the 10-speed and the HDs. You know, Ford’s is a little different than GM’s, still developed, you know, jointly. And, you know, what are all the idiosyncrasies? There’s a ton of videos out there that, you know, most of you can go out on YouTube and watch. It’ll show the difference between, for example, on the 10-speed Allison-branded transmission. You can look at the differences and see what they are. Oh, okay. Yeah. I’m interested to see how the new Ram works. I am never a first-year, you know, buy it out of the, you know, first year out, you know, buy that truck. So I think for me, Aaron, if I was going to buy one, I’d wait for 2026. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I’m up for a new work truck this spring, and I’m debating a Chevy or a Or the Dodge, because you can get the 24s pretty cheap. They’re cheap. They have tons of inventory.
SPEAKER 17 :
You can buy a Ram cheaper than anything because of how many they’ve got. Literally, they are taking baths in those things. There are so many of them out there, as you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
They’re not warranting things right for you.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s the other issue they’re having that we’ve had is because the company itself is in such financial issue. I think they’re pushing a lot of warranties off wherever they can. Yep. That’s the downside. Right. But they’re cheap.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. All right, Aaron. Good questions, by the way. Thanks for that. I appreciate that very much. Chris, I think you’ll probably be our last call. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, I’m just doing a follow-up on the tight vibration in my transmission on my truck. Sure. Yeah, I got it over to Ken’s a week or so ago.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Lifted it up, lifted it up off the ground, and got it up to 72, 3, 5 miles an hour. And the differential is certainly vibrating.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Interesting. So we’re getting close, and Steve’s going to look at it on Monday.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Perfect. Perfect.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
So I assume, Steve, you still want it on the snowy day? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, absolutely. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s warming the show.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, so I’m getting close to figure out what’s going on with it. Cool.
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s good. Yeah, you’re making headway. Good for you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. Yep. And I always run Blizzac tires in the wintertime.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know what? I’m glad you said that. That was one of those things I was going to throw out at some point. And I had somebody ask me this earlier, you know, do I recommend running another separate set of wheels and tires? If you can afford it, absolutely, because it makes things so much easier. You can just switch tires out accordingly. The Blizzacs, as you know, Chris, don’t want to run those in the summer at all because they wear super fast. But one of the best winter tires, in my opinion, you can buy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah. No, they’re very sticky. And I run XLTs in the summer, and I just go to discount, and they just change them out.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 14 :
Fairly inexpensive.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nice. Good for you. Yeah, and again, somebody asked, what would I do? I mean, A, your risk of… If it’s a daily driver and it doesn’t matter, and you don’t care if the wheel gets damaged or whatever, fine, switch them out whenever you want to. If it’s something that you pay more attention to and have a nicer vehicle and so on, then… Yeah, I would get another set of wheels and rims, you know, set of wheels, I should say, for those tires and just switch them out that way. But, you know, teach his own.
SPEAKER 14 :
They do make a big difference.
SPEAKER 17 :
They do. Absolutely, Chris. Absolutely. Yep.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I’m anxious to hear how things go. Yep, I’ll see you Monday morning, Steve.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, Chris, appreciate you very much. And we’ve talked to Chris numerous times. And for those of you listening, that’s where finding certain problems, I can’t stress this enough, finding certain problems, you have to be patient on both sides. Shop has to be patient. technician as well sometimes that can get frustrating for a tech but you know customer has to be as well because there are certain things that just aren’t cut and dried it’s not an out of the you know box ordinary sort of a thing where you know you can just pinpoint it in a way you go vibrations especially i remember back you know when i had my shops we specialized because we did a lot of off-road four-wheel drive work we did a lot of you know vibration type work that frankly other shops would get frustrated over they would just sort of you know sort of throw their hands up and nobody else wanted to work on it and we would whether that was right or wrong or we we did don’t don’t maybe we shouldn’t have but we did just because it’s the nature of the of the deal but it is a progression and you have to try things and then see how it works afterwards and it’s just again it’s just not cut and dried
SPEAKER 08 :
I love that, and the one thing I would add to that is if you have any information, no matter how small the detail, please offer it at the counter. Keep a journal. Yeah, keep a journal. Don’t try to make us find it. Don’t say it’ll be cheaper if you don’t tell us. We want to know everything that you know because it’s going to build from there.
SPEAKER 17 :
We used to give our customers back then on those sorts of things a sheet so they would purposely journal. some of the things that were going on. I mean, everything from when’s it happening, what’s the temperature outside, what’s the speed, what gear are you in, blah, blah, blah. I mean, all these different things where you’re trying to figure out all these different idiosyncrasies as to what’s happening so you could then help pinpoint the problem and literally make them journal for you so you could figure some of these things out. But, Pat, Alltech Automotive, thank you, man, as always. Thanks for driving down.
SPEAKER 08 :
You bet. Thanks for having us today. I had a lot of fun.
SPEAKER 17 :
Steve Horvath from Geno’s as well. Steve, thanks as always. Thanks for coming on Fix-It Radio as well. Appreciate you very much. And for those of you listening, any of our shops, any of our sponsors, please let them know you listen to us. Find them all at drive-radio.com. Charlie, thank you. And, Larry, if you’re listening, we missed you today, but we’ll see you next week. Guys, have a great rest of your weekend. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 19 :
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