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Join us on this episode of Drive Radio as we dive deep into the latest automotive trends and challenges. Our host, alongside special guest Pat Schneid from Alltech Automotive, takes a closer look at the feasibility of electric vehicles, the infrastructure hurdles we face, and how these changes impact everyday drivers. Ralph from Lakewood shares his insights on fluid compatibility and automotive maintenance, launching a comprehensive discussion on the best practices for vehicle care. Don’t miss out on this engaging conversation packed with expert advice and listener interactions.
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SPEAKER 19 :
And we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, Pat Schneid, Alltech Automotive with me today. You can find Pat and everybody else that helps put this program on on a weekly basis by going to drive-radio.com. Pat is Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins, and you’ll find him listed there really easy. And I sent somebody to Pat just a couple days ago.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nice, thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Never have any complaints whatsoever on the folks that we… send your way and those of you that are up in the wyoming area if you really want a good shop to work on your vehicles take that short drive down uh see pat and his guys and they’ll take great care of you do you bet and there’s quite a few that do that i had that question the other day from somebody up in wyoming asking you why do all the wyoming guys drive to fort collins well partly i think because they want to support what we’re doing here but on top of that i think they feel like their quality of workmanship is is better and i think it is
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I don’t have anything against my Wyoming neighbors, but we’re happy to work on cars with Wyoming license plates. No problem there.
SPEAKER 19 :
There we go. Ralph and Lakewood, you are first this hour. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, how you doing, John? Good. Hi, Ralph. A couple of comments. As far as the driverless, I don’t want to get into a long conversation, but I always think it’s interesting. In the 80s, popular science talked about that. They thought that the sensors would be in the guardrails and said it’s going to be a lot safer and people go faster because of it that you’d have autonomous driving so i think that’s kind of interesting where we are now yeah and that didn’t really play out the way they anticipated it’s playing out but not quite the way folks you know thought as you know ralph didn’t but it’s probably better you’re no i agree with you 100 yes absolutely um as far as evs go my only concern really is the uh There’s a chargeability across the grid of the nation, in particular apartment buildings. If the people really wanted to force everybody to get an electric vehicle by 2030 or whatever, I just don’t think we have any infrastructure, and I don’t think we really need to do that. Personally, this is my second hybrid. I just bought a 2025 Sportage hybrid, which we’re enjoying. I just think that the ability to charge… As you drive his… Yeah. It’s kind of second to none on the destination anxiety that you’ve talked about.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, I can’t argue that. And I’m with you. And I said this many, many times. When it comes to EVs, there are certain buyers for them, certain buyers that it’s not for. Most apartment complexes, unless the apartment complex was designed that way initially to be able to support the EV infrastructure, Ralph, yeah, I don’t see anybody living in an apartment complex really being a good fit for an EV unless they’ve got a job where they can – charge at their job or whatever. And the thing you have to be careful of there is, okay, what if all of a sudden that job no longer exists? Now you’re running around trying to charge your vehicle in places that you may not have been looking for in the first place because you had that ability. So yeah, I would always look at things that way as an EV owner. And best bet is if you’re somebody that owns or even rents a home, but you’ve got the ability to put a level two charger in it and charge yourself at night, which as you know, Ralph, the grid is much less at night than it is during the day. And that’s the ideal circumstance for EV owners. And I’m one that says if you don’t fit that, then it’s probably not a good fit for you. At this point, anyways. Yeah. Yeah, as time changes, that might change down the road. But currently, right now, that’s the answer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it is. So the real question I had was regarding fluid compatibility issues. of transmission fluid and rear differential fluids between vehicles. And it just comes down to, I certainly understand the concept and abide by those manufacturer rules. But my almost best tool right now is now that I’m retired and I’m actually changing the differential and trans fluids is, okay, so I’ve got a hand pump that has still about two feet of tubing And I’ve got fluid from a Honda differential versus a Toyota differential. I’m a little bit anal about it, I guess, and so I pumped it out to get all that fluid that I could from the previous manufacturer’s requirements into somewhere to just really throw it out. So it seems like a little bit of a waste, but the question kind of is about Does that really matter? Is that just a non-starter? And secondarily, in a sense, what do shops do if they have an electric pump that has a lot more of that remaining fluid? If they go from vehicle to vehicle. So that’s the question.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good question. Pat, I’ll let you answer the shop side. I’ll give you my opinion on if there’s a little bit left in there, whether you would want to get rid of that or not. I’ll give you my opinion on that. But go ahead and talk about the shop end of things, Pat, because it’s not quite as cut and dried in every shop as probably most people think.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, and what we do as a shop is we have a high quality that we call a universal fluid that covers a lot of the fluids. And so we go by manufacturer spec always. And if there is a particular manufacturer’s fluid that is not covered by By the universal that we carry, then we do individual quarts typically for differentials, that sort of thing. And we also use a hand pump.
SPEAKER 19 :
So you’re not having any leftover anyways on that end of it because whatever’s left over is getting pumped right back at whatever it came out of. Right, right. I do the same thing at home, Ralph.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think the key is you don’t want to short circuit the specification because if you say, well, this is close enough, this is just a little too thick or a little thicker, it’ll be fine. It may not be fine because then you run into liability and warranty issues, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, Ralph, what I was going to say right along the lines of what Pat was saying, let’s say, for example, I’ve got a big truck, three-quarter ton truck, and I just did a differential service on a Chevrolet, but the Ram next door says it’s going to be a little bit different fluid. The little bit that’s left in that circumstance because of the fluid capacity in those big trucks, it’s a non-issue. Now, I’m moving all the way down to, in your case, a Kia, where you’re talking a lot less fluid capacity. Correct. Yeah, I think it’s more important to make sure that you’re clean and putting only that fluid in and not contaminating with anything else because there’s not a lot of capacity. Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Yeah, the one I just got done is the CRV has 1.34 quarts.
SPEAKER 19 :
Which isn’t much. So I would not want to contaminate that with anything from what was before.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, well, I tried pretty hard, but I guess I’ll see.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and if you have, I mean, a teeny bit, you know, you end up with a cap full or two, and there probably isn’t going to make any difference when that fluid is going to blend, and it’s not a huge, huge issue. But, yeah, I mean, just I think rule of thumb would be we want to keep things as clean as we can on each vehicle that we’re working on. And depending upon what type of a transfer device you’re using, to your point, electric, vacuum, whatever, I mean, everybody’s got a different way of doing that. Yeah, I want to be as clean as I can be on that next fill.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I think the thing to remember, too, is that our cars, our vehicles today have a lot of systems. And so each metal system, whether it be a differential, a transmission, it could be brake fluid, there are both metal parts. And then internally to the system, there are fluids. What happens, the fluids provide a lot of different qualities. So lubrication, heat dissipation, some cases hydraulic control. As the fluids break down over time from hot-cold cycles, maybe they get moisture in them, then those qualities degrade. And so it is so much easier in almost – well, in every case to replace the fluid than it is to replace the metal parts. So – Ralph, what you’re doing there by by replacing your fluids on a semi regular basis, that is absolute best maintenance you can do for you. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 19 :
And in your case, even if you have a teeny bit of contamination, given the fact you’re at least doing fluid changes, you’re still ahead of the guy not doing anything, right? By far. They lose your Ralph, are you still there? Even though it’s getting under your back? Sorry, we missed that last part. You broke up. Go ahead. Say that again.
SPEAKER 08 :
I used to have my son-in-law’s company do it, and it seemed like dark and mysterious, you know. But it’s pretty easy from my point of view. They haven’t totally made it. Engineers haven’t totally made it impossible. And I’m just kind of having a lot of fun just knowing that I’m lubricating and doing something that I should. Because for other people listening, you know, the requirements are all over the place. Well, they’re not all over the board, but they’re all driving dependent. So what does it come down to? It comes down to just insurance and saying, well, okay, it’s got 100 and some or about 100,000. Let’s do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it’s done.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then you don’t even have to worry about the people that say, well, you shouldn’t do it because you’re going to dislodge all the sludge. And it’s like, well. If you do it fairly often, then, you know, life’s good.
SPEAKER 19 :
And by the way, those individuals, I’ve been fighting this on this program for two plus decades, 25 plus years, Ralph. I have yet to have any of those individuals that say what they told you prove to me that that ever happens. Because in my world, and I’ve been in the industry, as you guys all know, for a very, very very very long time i’ve never seen what these guys claim happened that is an old wives tale that’s been passed down from you know generation to generation and it’s just not true agreed well thanks for your time you’re very welcome ralph no i appreciate it in fact that’s probably that’s probably a question of the day pat maybe next time you’re on i’ll throw that out there as to you know give us you know give us some wives tales that you know you’ve heard throughout the years it could be automotive could be not you know for example one of the wives tales that i grew up with and it was a dead wrong is if you were running Quaker State oil in your engine, you couldn’t switch to Pennzoil, for example, back in the day, because if you did, you’d have some sort of engine damage and change. And even as a kid, I was thinking, wait a minute. And granted, I wasn’t the sharpest kid out there, Pat, but at age 14 or 15, I’m thinking, okay, wait a minute. Oil is oil is oil. How does the engine know if I put Quaker State or Pennzoil or Castrol or anything else in it? Because at the end of the day, oil is oil is oil. And steel has no remembrance. Steel and aluminum, the bearings that are in there, the aluminum and so on, that’s all in the bearings and so on. At the end of the day, it doesn’t know the difference either. And I kept thinking to myself, well, wait a minute. This just cannot be true. But yet all the old-timers would swear by the fact that, you know, I’ve only ever ran Quaker State and I’m not changing. It’s like, okay, well, it’s just your brand loyalty. Correct. That has nothing to do with what’s going to happen inside that engine.
SPEAKER 10 :
So to be clear, so oils are the same, base oils are the same, and now synthetic oils are manufactured in more consistent molecule size and all that. Right. But there are additive packs that manufacturers add to the oil. And I think what the wives’ tale was based around was the fact that some of these additive chemicals may not be compatible from brand to brand. But to your point, John, I’ve switched brands many times in my life, never had a problem.
SPEAKER 19 :
Never, never, ever.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not even a little problem. Nope, not at all. I think the most important thing is change your oil frequently. Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. All right, we’ve got more on that. Don’t go anywhere. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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I was kind of concerned that my insurance company that I had previously was going to either cancel me or increase my premium. When Dave came over and he said, Gil, he said, your roof looks good. I will give you a bid. And he said, I can give you a warranty of five years. And I said, whoa, that’s great.
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Would you recommend RoofMax to friends, family or neighbors and why?
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
All right, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. David, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, I would like to be able to have Ken Rackley continue to service my car, but I believe he would just be American and Asian. And my first question, would you have anyone in the group that would service European vehicles?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, Geno’s, and Ken would have no problem with you going over and seeing Steve over at Geno’s, the kind of opposite ends of town, I get it. Ken’s on the east side, Steve’s on the west side, but there would be no problem there whatsoever, and they both work back and forth very well together. Okay, great. Yeah, that would be good. And Steve and all of his guys have Euro experience. Steve’s an old Volkswagen guy, just so everybody out there listening knows. That’s his background.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, okay, yeah. We don’t hold it against him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, we don’t hold it against him at all.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s funny. But, yeah, and he would be – I just love Steve when he’s on.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and he and Ken work very close together, so there would be zero issues there, Dave. Not a problem at all.
SPEAKER 06 :
All righty. And then my second question issue. I wasn’t sure but do Roy and Disa they do the clear the ceramic coat whatever it’s called ceramic. Oh, that’s it and then would they also I Do they tint windows as well?
SPEAKER 19 :
Tint windows, do full PPF protection anywhere on the car, so clear bra anywhere on the car, full detailing, ceramic coating, and they also do paintless dent removal. So if you’ve got a small little ding or a dent and you want that taken out before they do any of the work we just talked about, they can cover all of it. And one thing they don’t really advertise, but I know they also do, If you’ve got even a slight ding or scratch or something and you don’t want to do paint because you just don’t want to paint a panel, but you think you might be able to touch it up and even then hide some of that with the PPF, which really does a good job of hiding some of these things, they can also do that, David.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Okay. All right, I’ll look into those other things as well, but the main issue at this point would be window tint.
SPEAKER 19 :
They do all that very well, and they’ve got choices on tint as far as how dark do you want to go, and they’ll keep you either at the legal limit, or if you want to go darker, that’s completely up to you as a driver. They can tint the front windshield, which I do on every one of my vehicles. It’s a super light tint, but with my astigmatism at night, it really helps cut down on that fogginess. For some of you that have astigmatism and know exactly what I’m talking about, the tinting of the front windshield helps that immensely.
SPEAKER 06 :
okay great that’s good info because uh i may have that issue as well yeah i do and it helps a bunch it’s funny david i can get into a car i get in one of my cars i know it’s done i can get into like a press car or something where it’s not done or even a rental car and it’s like oh geez give me my car back all right well i’ll do this uh get the front done as well and then um do you have both of their i can look it up but do you have their numbers handy genos and uh Steve at Geno’s, and then Roy in DC.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, hang on here. I can get it for you really quick. Let me do this really fast. Geno’s is going to be 303-963-9353. And Protex, 720-382-8481. And just tell them both that you’re one of our listeners and you’re part of the family and they’ll take care of you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, definitely. I will. Thanks so much. David, thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
I appreciate you very much. Thank you. And yeah, we have a great community. Guys, I cannot say that enough. And there’s rarely something that we can’t send you in one direction or another. Speaking of, and I should have mentioned this earlier, but they’re going to be on the full hour for the extra mile. And that’s Brighton Auto Body. One of our brand, the brand new sponsor that we’ve got. Been talking to those guys for quite some time. And actually, Roy. Roy, indeed. So Roy from ProTech is the one that really set this up. So new sponsor. Anything you need when it comes to collision, most, and we’ll talk about this. So listen from three to four. We’ve got a whole hour on the whole collision industry, insurance, how that works, the steering that goes on, and so on. We go through every aspect of that. And both those guys were with us for that particular hour. I recorded that on Monday. So listen in from three to four. You’ll learn a lot about the whole collision industry and the fact that there are certain shops, not Brighton Auto Body, but certain shops where if you don’t have insurance, they’re not dealing with you. So if you’re a customer pay, it’s within your deductible or you’ve got a classic car that you want to have something done with. I had somebody actually text me yesterday, said, hey, I’ve got somebody that I know that’s got a 1988 Grand Wagoneer. They want to restore the outside. Who do you recommend? Brighton Auto Body because most collision centers won’t even look at that 88 Wagoneer because it doesn’t fit into their normal mode of insurance and so on. Brighton Auto Body will do that and all of your insurance work as well. But even on the insurance work, they do things differently than your typical collision center will. So, yeah, if you guys, anybody listening is looking for a really great collision center. And one thing we talked about. that’s coming up at 3 o’clock as well is some of you would say, well, man, I’m in Centennial. I don’t want to drive all the way to Brighton. They’ll pick up and deliver, okay, anywhere in the metro area. So if you’ve got the ability to let them have the car, they’ll send a rollback, pick the car up. Bring it, get it all done, figure out how to get it back to you. I mean, they’ll make that as easy as possible to where you’re not driving all over town to get that particular vehicle fixed the way you want. So Brighton Auto Body, they’re on our website, drive-radio.com. Great guys, by the way. Make sure you tell them you heard them here on Drive Radio. I appreciate that greatly. But a great new sponsor of ours, and we get questions all the time on, hey, where do I get some collision work done? They’re your guys. Take it out there and get it handled. All right, got another half an hour left. Myself, Pat Schneidt from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Albert, hang on one sec. Pat, you just asked me a question.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do I have any info on… Yes, I got a texter here asking about skin care for his Cybertruck, which is the stainless steel, and is there anything to protect that?
SPEAKER 19 :
Let’s get to that one as soon as we’re done with Albert. Great question, by the way. Albert, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi, John. How are you doing, sir? Enjoy the questions. I got an issue. I got a 2014 Dodge Dart. It’s a manual transmission. And the clutch, they call it the clutch, you know, slave cylinder. Mine went out on me. I guess that’s pretty common. And I can’t find one, John. I got it on with Mopar. They said they have 500 on order. I went local here to Chrysler.com. You know, dealerships, they said, yeah, they’d have to order it, but they’re not saying when it’ll ever be here. Went on eBay, they come and go. I’m waiting on Amazon, and that was like three months ago, but at least they’re communicating with me saying they’re still waiting for it. I was wondering if anybody maybe here in Denver or maybe somebody listening, give me an idea who to look for, who to talk to. I even went to Napa. But for some reason, nobody has a part.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I’m assuming you have the OEM, the Dodge part number by chance, I assume?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I don’t have it with me. I’m in my car.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, because what I was going to say is send me that OEM number, and let me see what I can do to help you out. I don’t know that I’m going to be able to, but at least give me the OEM part number that you have for your vehicle, and let me see what I can’t determine. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
okay it’s been one it it went out of me like in about july so that’s how long it’s been that long waiting and looking on ebay they’ve come and gone they you know they had it but then uh then they then they’re not there anymore and uh one guy suggests i go to junkyard and i said shoot probably they’re all automatic in the junkyard that i’ve gone so I’m just kind of here scratching both ends, John, but anyway.
SPEAKER 19 :
And the reason why I want the original number is because I did just a quick search, and I’m finding a couple, and they’re in stock, but I want to make sure they’re the right part number before I give you an idea of whether this is the place to go or not. If it’s going to actually fit. Correct, yeah. I want to know the original part number so we can tell.
SPEAKER 10 :
What is the part we’re chasing?
SPEAKER 19 :
Because I found one, by the way, at a place called modernperformance.com, and Mopar is restricting this item. There’s very low numbers in stock nationwide. We have them in stock. Get yours now. Interesting. And you can look it up, Albert. That’s modernperformance.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. I’m going to pull over and write that down, okay?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Modern Performance. All right.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, they’ve got one. It’s $340, but if it works, it works. There you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. I’d like to get it back on and get it going and get it sold. But anyway, all right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Give that a whirl, Albert, and see if that helps.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, Albert. No, appreciate you very much. And again, folks, I have no guarantees whether that’s going to actually work or not. But, you know, I’ve got a little bit different search ability than probably Albert has. So he can check that out and see. Okay. On the Cybertruck end of things, which we were just talking about a moment ago, the question that you had is, and I guess the specific question is, how do you care for the Cybertruck stainless?
SPEAKER 10 :
How do you care for the stainless steel?
SPEAKER 19 :
I looked this up to be sure that I was on track because I was pretty sure I was. Tesla wants you doing nothing to the stainless steel. No abrasive cleaners, no stainless cleaner, no nothing. They want you to wash it. Rinse it. Keep it clean. Now, if you get any type of stains or things like that, they do recommend that you wipe direction of the grain, quote, unquote. So if you’re going to do something, wipe with the direction of the grain. So if you get a tough stain or something, they actually say use something like barkeeper’s friend and a soft cloth to actually gently rub whatever that would be out of that stainless steel. But they don’t want quadruple hot steel wool. No, nothing along those lines at all. In fact, even though a lot of those trucks get wrapped, Tesla will tell you not to do that. Now, part of that, I think, is they just want the stainless look. And that’s the reason for having in the first place. But there’s some claims, I believe, by Tesla that will say that. They’re worried about moisture getting underneath and trapping some things and so on when you wrap it, and that’s what I’m understanding. Now, still a lot of them out there that are wrapped. I don’t know if there’s any significant issues with wrapping a Cybertruck. I don’t own a Cybertruck. I wouldn’t own a Cybertruck, not because of the car, the technology, but they’re just so god-awful ugly I can’t own one.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, exactly. I think you own one for the level of intelligence. Yeah, because it’s ugly. I’m sorry, but it’s ugly. Right. Well, you know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Maybe it’s in the eye of the beholder, yeah. They’re not my thing either, but I think they do have the state-of-the-art artificial intelligence as far as that goes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Now, one thing you can do, and I do know this from talking to Roy, so you could tell this particular person this. If they really want to protect it and avoid doing anything down the road, ceramic coat it. Oh, there you go. You can ceramic coat the stainless all day long. So Roy would prep all of that, get it all dialed in, get it all looking good to where everything is. Like it’s supposed to be ceramic coated. Now you don’t have any of those issues with stains and fingerprints and things along those lines.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then the folks that are wrapping them, I guess, to get color. So that is actually a plastic.
SPEAKER 19 :
Color advertisement, all that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Okay. That’s what they’re doing. Yeah, typically guys are wrapping them. I don’t know, I saw one the other day that was done in a white camo. I’ve seen them done in white, red, pink, green. I mean, you name it, I’ve seen them done in the flat colors, the bright colors. I’ve seen lime green. I mean, I’ve pretty much seen one wrapped about any way you can think of wrapping. I mean, I will say this, if you’re a business wanting to advertise, Everybody looks. I will give them that. If you wrap it, they’re all looking. You have my attention. Oh, definitely. I mean, even just the regular stainless one, everybody looks because there’s just not that many of them around. But in the case of, and there’s also areas on it you can PPF also. So you can PPF and ceramic coat. So you might tell that texter, Pat, that, yeah, go see Roy at ProTech. If you really want to protect things well, just ceramic coat it and be done. Perfect. Question of the day. Again, we’ll kind of finish things out here. We’ve got another about 20 minutes left of the show. Question of the Day is the most useful tool for working on cars. I’ve had a lot of suggestions. And one last thing before we close out. We’re not here next Saturday, so if you’ve got a specific question you’d like to get in today, we will not be live again until the week after Thanksgiving because everybody’s going to take Thanksgiving weekend off, like a lot of you will as well, which is great. So if you’ve got a question, call us. We’ll get you right on air. We’re going to take a quick break. We’ll come back. Give us a nice long segment to finish out the show. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 19 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, myself, Pat Schneid, Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Jeff, you are next.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, good afternoon again. Hey. You’re talking about the talk about the Peso Cybertruck.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Going back 40 years to when they first brought out the DeLorean.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Oh, perfect.
SPEAKER 09 :
It, too, had a stainless steel body.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that sucker, you could not keep. Keep it clean. Fingerprints. It’s like having a stainless steel refrigerator in your driveway. And you just can’t keep it clean. No matter what you do, you’re going to get smudges and prints. It’s… you’re going to spend all your time keeping it up, or are you just going to say forget it, pack with it, and let it go?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I think in my case, if I did have one, I mean, I ceramic coat most everything I drive daily anyways, but if I was going to own one of those, I’d ceramic coat it because I’d want it to look nice all the time. That’ll keep the fingerprints and the smudges away. Keep all that stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. So, I mean, it’s a walk down memory lane 40 years later. I forgot about that, actually.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yeah, and that was a vehicle that, for all of what it wanted to do, never flew, other than on Back to the Future. Right, right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, I mean, the fact that the guy was a cokehead. He was. I mean, you know, that had something to do with that, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
It was just, the problem that car, you know, not to get off on, you know, a rabbit trail, but the problem that car had was, as you know, Jeff, it was just a hodgepodge of, and he had so many obstacles to overcome that by the time the car actually got produced, it was just a piece of junk. There’s no other way to say it. They were low power. Yeah, it was cool and kind of this whole, you know, futuristic thing, but they were just a bucket of bolts.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, it kind of made the Pontiac Fiero look sporty.
SPEAKER 19 :
It made it look like a quality car as well, and it wasn’t. What was it, 1982, 1983?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, when was the DeLorean? It was right in there. It was the early 80s.
SPEAKER 19 :
Early 80s for sure, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t remember for sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
I’m looking it up right now. It ceased operations in 82. Oh, wow. So the car was produced 81 to 82, and it failed, and it only came out for a year or two, and that was it, and then it failed, of course. We all remember that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So a little bit different topic, but following on on this, is the next back to the future going to use a Cybertruck instead of a DeLorean?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, good question. They probably should.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
yeah hovercraft maybe i don’t know yeah there’s actually somebody it’s i have a book at some point that a listener actually gave me and i read quite a bit about the you know about the delorean and of course him and the downfall of the company and why it failed and so on and it’s actually a very interesting story when you get all the way and And, you know, yeah, the guy was a co-kid, but he had lots of obstacles. The other car companies really didn’t want to see him, you know, do anything. And so they tried to block as many things as they could. And, again, at the end of the day, that thing was just doomed from day one. It originally was going to have a rotary engine, by the way. It just never happened. Oh, really? Like a Mazda? Yeah, like a Mazda, yeah, a Wankel engine. Yeah, a Wankel engine, RX-7.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that’s right. I had forgotten that. It was originally going to be a Wank when they couldn’t get it. So I don’t know if they’ve got a different Dodge engine or something.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, I’m sorry. I don’t remember what they ended up using. Well, let me look here. I believe they used… So they ended up using a complete drivetrain. Here’s the other problem they had. They used a complete drivetrain from the, whatever you call it, Citroen CX2000. So that was the other problem. That’s a piece of crap car, too. Yeah, that’s a kiss of death. Eventually, they did a Peugeot-Renault-Volvo engine, which isn’t much better.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because, like you said, they got blocked by… He was doing it out of Ireland, I think, which makes sense for all the Europeans.
SPEAKER 19 :
And he was trying to do that for taxes as well, wasn’t he, Jeff, back in the day?
SPEAKER 09 :
i believe so i mean it’s a whole convoluted sad story uh personally i think he uh all of his um misdeeds caught up with his family and yeah it is and to your point it really is a sad story you’re right about that yeah so anyway i uh i just thought it was interesting that uh Stainless steel never works on vehicles. Sorry.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, it’s just a hard, as you know, it’s not as easy. It’s a great idea. You know, it doesn’t rust, doesn’t do this, doesn’t do that. But there’s a lot more maintenance and things that you need to do to it, Jeff, as you’re mentioning with the DeLorean than most people think. For those of you who don’t know, it’s like the matte black finish vehicles. Everybody looks at those and thinks, oh, that’s so cool. That is one of the hardest vehicles on the road to own to keep looking the way it is because it’s fine care that you have to take with that matte black finish. It’s not what you think.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they don’t even look that great when they’re clean.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, it is one of the hardest cars to take care of on the road.
SPEAKER 09 :
I would have thought you’d just get a can of matte black spray paint. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
And just touch it up. Yep. Yeah. I mean, again, to your point, Jeff, misconceptions of what’s easy to care for and what’s not, bar none. And a lot of people don’t understand this. White, that’s why a lot of fleets are white. Right. White is still one of the easiest or is the easiest color to take care of, period. Yep. For sure. It always will be. And it looks great when it’s clean. That’s because of the way the light reflects and so on. Even when it’s dirty, it’s not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. I think it has to do with, and this is a geek in me coming out, I think it has to do with it being white reflecting all colors. It’s a composite, so if you have a smudge or something, it’s not going to show up as much. The other colors kind of compensate for whatever…
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep, the darker the color, the more it shows because of everything you’re saying, Jeff. That’s exactly right. And again, most people have this misconception because they wear a white shirt and realize, well, if I get a little stain on it, man, everybody sees it, so my car is going to be the same way. No, it’s actually the opposite. Your shirt, way different than the car, Jeff. Yep. Not one in the same at all. Same color, but that’s where it ends. Nothing else is similar.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s exactly where it ends, yep. All right. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 19 :
All good stuff, Jeff. No, I appreciate it very much. And by the way, a lot of great questions on. And it’s that time of the year, you know, care for the vehicle. And what do you do? And we’ll get into this here in the next few shows on, you know, what do you do after a snowstorm? And, you know, what’s the best way to care for the vehicle to keep it lasting long and so on? And we talk about this in the in the show that we’re going to do today from three to four. Just the value of. that you gain in your current vehicle by keeping it well maintained not just on the mechanical side for sure but interior and exterior you’re going to add value when you either trade or sell that vehicle down the road whatever believe it or not whatever you’re spending to keep it that way you’re getting that back down the road on the resale side yeah and and i didn’t talk about this today but and on top of that the turnaround time people will buy clean used cars all day long So your ability to sell a clean-use car over one that’s got, well, there’s a little dent here or there’s some scratches here or it’s got a tear in the seat here or whatever, Pat. I mean, as you go down the line, every one of those little things I just mentioned, there’s a tick-off, there’s a tick-off, there’s a tick-off, where if you’ve got a car that’s pretty much perfect, oh, man, you can pretty much put it on a corner and sell it all day long. All the discussions and negotiations just go away. Yeah, because the people – and here’s the other thing about keeping the car maintained on the outside. Not always the case, although rule of thumb, and it’s pretty accurate, if somebody cared for the outside, they’re caring for the inside and the underside as well. That’s true. Rarely does one not go with the other.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. So, yeah, if you’re that detailed type of person and you just take care of stuff, you will have a much better chance of reselling. Yep.
SPEAKER 19 :
So, again, that’s one of those things we talked about today in the extra mile. I’m going to put another plug in for the extra mile. That’s on from 3 to 4 every Saturday now. And several of you, even a couple today, have mentioned, hey, would you talk about X? more in depth on that show and because that’s a show where we don’t it’s not live i’m recording that on the front side meaning and this isn’t a bad thing that we have interruptions in this show because we’re here we’re a caller driven show and that’s great we’re not right i’m not complaining about that at all that’s what this show is designed for that show on the On the other hand, though, since I’m pre-recording it, no one can call in. Got you. So I can devote more time to particular topics and spend, like today, insurance, collision, all of that spent darn near an hour covering that one topic. So you can go deep and wide. Very deep that I can’t normally do here on the normal drive radio. So we’ve got time for maybe one or two more calls, 303-477-5600. Larry’s typing in who this is. As soon as I know who it is, we’ll get you up here and going. And, again, thank you guys for calling in today and all the text lines. And I should mention this, too. The text line, you guys all know this. If you want to talk to us about anything, just throw me a text message, 307-200-8222. Dennis, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, John. Enjoy your show. Thank you, Dennis. You were talking a little while ago about self-driving cars, especially with regard to Tesla. And I’ve driven both, Tesla and Lucid. I’ve owned a Lucid for over a year now. Nice. And there’s some substantial difference between the way Lucid implements its self-driving as opposed to other cars. The latest iteration of Lucid, I’m sorry, of Tesla… It displays on the screen like a video game. It shows every cone, every stop sign. You’ve got traffic cones up and stuff like that. Lucid has a much more subtle implementation of it. They have a very conservative approach to it. Tesla basically says, okay, we’re giving you everything. It’s beta. You’re on your own. Lucid has got a more cautious approach. For example, it reads speed signs. But it doesn’t display the sign as it’s going by, which to me is kind of distractive. It just simply reads it and then puts the information on the screen. If you’re in a construction zone, instead of displaying lots of cones and all that stuff, it simply recognizes it as a construction zone and slows you down. And it’s not very noisy. For example, if you’re in stop-and-go driving… and you’re not in self-driving mode, which will accelerate and decelerate and stop and go with stop and go driving, if you’re not looking at the car, it pays attention to your eyes very closely. Let’s say you’re looking off to the side, talking to a passenger or looking down or reading something, and the traffic starts to move, it’ll just give you a subtle chime. It says, okay, you can go. And it doesn’t display lights, but it knows when they change. And it doesn’t do self-driving on every single road because all of the roads are not painted, do not have painted lines that comport with the highway standards. And if you’re going to… And the one thing that will confuse Lucid is up here in the snow country where those lines get eroded and fade out. Lucid will… will beep at you and say self-driving is temporarily inhibited. So it uses the actual circumstance. It doesn’t rely on the database of what the road is and where it is.
SPEAKER 21 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
But some cars will, when you pass an off-ramp, they’ll try to take off on the off-ramp or get confused or something. But as long as the lines are properly marked and visible… the Lucid will distract you perfectly. And Lucid has full hands-off driving now on most highways and stuff.
SPEAKER 19 :
The biggest question I have on Lucid, and you probably know this is coming, is what’s your feelings on their financial stability moving forward? Because they’ve been one of the companies struggling. They’re burning cash like no tomorrow. What’s your thoughts there, Dennis?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, as you know, they have very deep pockets. And the PIF fund from Saudi Arabia, they have committed to buy… like 10,000 vehicles. Waymo and Uber just signed a $300 million contract with him to equip a whole bunch of Lucids. It’s the highest tech car that’s out there.
SPEAKER 19 :
I followed it for a while now, and I’m fascinated by it. I’ve never driven one or been in one, but yeah, you know my reasons for not owning a Tesla. I’ve said that many times, and most of that’s because of fit, finish, quality, and so on, which I think Lucid is much better than Tesla is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they are. And not to mention the range. I went from here to Tempe, Arizona a while back, and I made one charging stop.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s pretty good. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, who wants to sit in a car that long?
SPEAKER 19 :
No one.
SPEAKER 07 :
But the computer on the car, when you tell it where you want to go, it will suggest short stops. For example, if I followed the convention that they gave me for Tesla, I mean for Lucid, it gave me a 17-minute stop in Pagosa Springs. and a 26-minute stop someplace in New Mexico. But I didn’t follow that because I just wanted to see if I could do it. Got you. It was a longer charging stop because, you know, they charge most rapidly when they’re on the low end of the battery scale. That’s right.
SPEAKER 21 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Lucid likes to keep you down there. And it stops you at places where there are facilities, where there are convenience stores and markets and stuff.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, you know, the range is incredible. and the regen, the ride, the power, and it’s a big car. You can put a lot.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, no, that’s the other thing I like about it. I’m sorry, it’s a nicer-looking, nothing against Tesla owners, but it’s a nicer-looking car, Dennis.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I believe it is, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
Across the board, it’s a nicer-looking car. It really is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Again, you pay a little more for it, but they have several models. Some of them get close to being affordable.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, I’m on their mailing list. I get all their updates.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, good. Well, then you know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I’m very happy with it. And also, you don’t have that screen over on the side. You’ve got lots of information right in front of your eye.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, it’s a great car. I mean, again, I’ve looked at it many times, and it’s got a look to it that Teslas don’t have. And that’s my biggest issue with Teslas, just looks, fit, finish, all of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you don’t really realize until you get into it how big it is.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know. I know. Good information. I appreciate this, Dennis, very much. I don’t think I’ve ever talked to anybody that’s actually owned one. I’ve seen them around. I’ve looked at them in parking lots and so on, but I’ve never had anybody call in and talk about it. So thank you. They do make a few models, right? Two?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, they make several, and now they have the SUV out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay. Stop by Cherry Creek down there in the mall. They’ll be happy to show you a whole car. Okay, I will do that. I will do that, Dennis. Nice mall at the Cherry Creek Mall. Nice, okay. Get a good look at them.
SPEAKER 19 :
I will do that. Dennis, thank you. Great information. I appreciate that very much. Yep, you take care. Have a great Thanksgiving. All right, now we’re going to wrap things up today. Appreciate, Pat, you coming down. Alltech Automotive, thanks for all you do for us. You bet. Happy to be here. Thanks for having us. Always a joy. Larry Unger, thanks for answering phones today. Charlie Grimes as well. And as we head out into this Thanksgiving weekend, guys, I mean this sincerely. Thank you, each and every one of you, for all you do for us. Really, you’re great supporters. You support all of our partners like Pat, and we appreciate that greatly. Without you, we wouldn’t do what we do here each and every week. So thank you all very much. Have a great Thanksgiving week. We’ll see you the week after. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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