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Welcome to another engaging episode of Drive Radio, where we delve into the intricacies of automotive technology and answer your most pressing questions. With discussions ranging from high-performance cars to the futuristic technology of automated car scanning, this episode offers a comprehensible roadmap for both seasoned and amateur car enthusiasts. Whether it’s understanding the nuances of dealership tech decisions or the impact of location on diesel engine maintenance, this episode ensures you’re well-informed before making any automotive choices. Join us as we uncover the exciting world of vehicle automation and integrity, highlighting the newest advancements that protect against fraudulent
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All right, and I got a big text message that just came in that I will do my best to even answer online or on air. I should say Josh and I, I think, can handle this. This is from Liam in Kansas. So, Liam, hang tight. I will answer your question as soon as we take care of Jerry here in Greeley. Jerry, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good afternoon, gentlemen. You’re talking about the automation reminded me of a story a friend of mine told me. He went to the Honda dealership in Fort Collins. and as they were driving his car into the bay, it went through this large arch. Okay, so you know about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Saw one of those at SEMA as well. There’s different manufacturers now. At one time, there was not that many. There’s becoming more and more of them, whereby they can do basically a – think of it as an MRI for your car.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that’s what he – he researched it after talking to the folks at the dealership there, and, yeah, he said it actually stemmed from – Israeli efforts to detect bombs being smuggled into the country. That’s correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s basically an x-ray of your car in a lot of ways. And, again, being used at a lot of new car dealerships, rental car agencies. I mean, basically they’re doing a full scan of a car, and there’s a lot of high-end European Mercedes dealers that are using this because they can look at a lot of things. And it’s a protection for them as well because they can look and tell you every single little dimple and scratches on that car. So if you come back and say, you scratched it, they can say, yeah, no, we didn’t. It was there when you rolled it in.
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Right. They’re pretty futuristic.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s pretty amazing. And they’re getting to be, as always, Jerry, early on, more expensive. The more that get built, early adopters pay the most. But as they get developed out and there’s more competition and the technology starts to get better and better and those costs come down, that’s a predictor where I don’t think I’m wrong. On most of your high end, like Josh, will Josh eventually have one of those? Yes. Oh, yeah. Down the road, yes. As they get cheaper and cheaper and more cost-effective, every shop will have one. All the good shops, I should say, will have one.
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Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
And really quick, Jerry, if nothing else, sorry, it’s not our listeners, but there is as many scammers on the customer side as there is the shop side. Because I can tell you, Jerry, through all of the years, I got to the point where we didn’t have scanners, but even before the advent of camera phones and all of that, we had a digital… camera that we would run around the car and take pictures of because i can’t tell you over the years how many customers would claim you damaged something when it was already there and they knew it but they were trying to get one by you wow wouldn’t have thought of that oh yeah people come in and say oh that you know that that wrinkle in the fender wasn’t there when i dropped it off um yeah it was
SPEAKER 05 :
I love the rusty dent that they’re trying to say just happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and here’s what I learned over the years. Most people never, if they’re a single driver and they hardly ever have a passenger, they rarely look at the passenger side of the vehicle. So if there’s a big old dent or scratch down the passenger side and all of a sudden they’re looking at that because they’re picking the car up and maybe the car is now backed in, which they never do, they’re now seeing that for the first time. Well, you did that. Well, no, you didn’t. It was already there. And these devices are keeping all that honest, I guess you could say, on the front side, because when it rolls in, the first thing the dealership is literally, it pulls up and rolls through that before anything else happens.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can I ask a question about registration?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
Josh is our guy. Okay. I just renewed the registration on F-150, and there is a typo on the paperwork where it says it’s an F-15. So I’m wondering if I should bother asking them about that to redo that.
SPEAKER 05 :
I wouldn’t worry about it right now. They have the VIN, so, you know, colors are always, we have that too, where, you know, the colors can change from cream to white to whatever on different things. So I don’t think it’s going to be an issue because they do have the VIN. But, yeah, and they’ll know it’s not an F-15 because it doesn’t have two engines and sidewinders.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, thank you, gentlemen.
SPEAKER 03 :
You’re very welcome, Jerry. No, I appreciate it. All right, let’s get this question answered. This is a good question, by the way. Again, this is Liam in Kansas. I’m shopping for one-ton trucks, so 3500s or F-350. All the older fellows around here, my dad and my dad drive GM. My buddy who owns an independent diesel shop that works on everything from John Deere to Ford drives a newer Ram. He won’t drive a GM diesel because around here at least they don’t have a diesel tech for warranty work. He claims GM is a lightweight when it comes to diesels. Now, let me stop there really quick. That is not true. That may be his experience, but that’s not an overall experience. I mean, that Duramax engine is by no means a lightweight diesel engine. It is tried and true. It’s been around forever. It works extremely well. You can hop it up. There’s all sorts of things that guys do to hot rod it, just like they do the other engines as well, you know, the other manufacturers as well. But, no, I think it’s very inappropriate to say GM is a lightweight when it comes to diesel engines. Now, he does say that, you know, what are your thoughts? He claims Ram and Ford dealership guys know them better. They know them inside and out, whereas a GM guy might be working on Grandma’s Buick in the morning and then trying to replace an injector in the afternoon. that’s bs as well that’s not true if a gm dealer has a gm diesel tech that diesel tech is going to work on diesel engine components and so on you know might do some transmission work uh maybe most of that’s going to be a transmission person but it could be the same person same technician in this particular case but no a gm diesel tech is going to work on diesels they’re not working on grandma’s you know buick century and then rolling into a duramax engine no That’s not how that works. So whoever this guy is saying this, I’m sorry, but he’s very inaccurate. I’m not going to say he’s lying, but he’s just inaccurate in his description because that’s not the case. And by the way, that’s not the case in a Ford dealer or a Ram dealer either. Now, I will say this, and I’ve said this before. A lot of this does come down to location. Some areas, some cities might have some really good Ram diesel technicians at the dealership. Some might have really good Ford diesel techs. Some might have some really good GM diesel techs. Now, I’ll say this. Just because one GM dealer that’s on, you know, or in Aurora, for example, might have a really good diesel tech, that doesn’t mean the dealership in Golden does. Right. Or the dealer in Longmont does, or I can go down the list. It’s just like independents. They are hiring. General Motors does not provide technicians to dealerships. They go out just like an independent auto shop would, and they hire their own technicians accordingly. And by the way, those guys move around just like every other industry has people that move around. Just because a dealer today has a really good diesel tech doesn’t mean that diesel tech is going to be around a year from now or a month from now.
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No, their toolboxes have wheels.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s exactly right. They have wheels. Now, there are some exceptions to toolboxes with wheels. For example, you go to a Porsche dealer, and no, they don’t have wheels because the Porsche dealer is providing all of that, but that doesn’t mean the technician is married. That technician can still leave and go work somewhere else if they want to and most likely have their own set of tools at home that have wheels on them. They can go somewhere else if need be. So no technician is ever married to a dealership. That doesn’t matter whether it’s European, Japanese. You know, the whole Asian world, the diesel stuff that we’re talking about now and so on. So the reality is every dealership, just like Independence, you’ve even heard the CEO of Ford talk about this. Everybody’s looking for good technicians, dealers included. So my point is. That you might be in an area where Ford is really strong and there’s a great dealer network and it’s solid and they’ll take care of your truck and so on. On the same token, you might be in an area where GM is the king. You might be in an area where Ram is the king. And here’s what I would tell you is if you’re somebody that really relies on your truck, your hot shot or your towing, you’ve got a fleet, things along those lines. Yeah. I would really check into, in your area, who’s top dog when it comes to helping out on the warranty sides of things because that’s going to make the difference in owning that truck. Partly why, for me as a fleet, I don’t own any Fords. Nothing against Ford. I think they build a great product, but I don’t own any. Why? Because in my end of things, the dealer network sucks. I’ll just tell you straight up. They don’t do well for me on the warranty sides of things, and we do all of our own work except for something that needs warrantied. In that case, it goes to the dealer. Now, I’m not telling you that the other two are superior by any means, but at this point in time, it’s better than the Ford side. Now, all that being said, that could change next month or next year because, again, those techs will roll around. Now, the difference between a dealer tech that does diesels is will they ever go to the independent site? Yes, they will. But will they ever go to the Ford site? Highly unlikely. A Duramax tech is probably not going to go be a 6.7 Ford tech. A 6.7 Ford tech is probably not going to be a 6.7 Ram tech. I mean, they typically don’t cross over. Now, in the independent world, they can. To me, that’s the difference between the independent side and the dealer side. You will find some really great independent diesel techs that, frankly, can do all three and will even go back and do a 6.0 Ford or a 6.4 Ford or a 5.9 Cummins or a 7.3 Ford or, or. You get my drift there. You get a really good diesel tech that’s been around for a while that’s followed a lot of this stuff. Yeah, they can work on all of them. Now, where it really comes down to working on diesels, in a lot of cases, isn’t just the tech, but it’s the shop. And Josh knows what I’m going to say next. What equipment? And software do they have to work on the newer diesels? You could have the best tech in the world, but if you don’t put the right things in his hand to help him work on that vehicle properly, it’s not going to end well.
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No, and the equipment changes all the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
We just saw that this last week. We did.
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Every day, something new.
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Yep. So those are all the parameters when it comes to that vehicle and what you’re buying. So is this particular expert in the diesel world really an expert? I mean, he’s probably an expert in his own world, but that’s not a blanket statement that you can make on a coast-to-coast, town-to-town basis. So I hope that helps out. I hope that’s a good explanation. If you’ve got any more questions, text me back and I’ll answer some more. But this is where I come down to when it comes to buying a new truck. A, what kind of a deal can you make? B, how do you fit in the truck? How do you like it? Does it meet all of your requirements? Because each one is a little bit different when it comes to that. Do you like the styling? And on and on we go. And then lastly, what’s the dealer network like in your area and how well can they accommodate you on that end of things? That’s, to me, what it really boils down to. So all that being said, we’ll take a break. We’ll come right back. Myself and Josh Goff. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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Gil, what was your experience like working with RoofMaxx?
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Very good. With Dave Hart, we right away connected. You know, he was a very nice person to talk to, very accommodating. He even came over to my location when I asked him that I couldn’t go to him. He came to me and he walked the roof and he said, Gary, there’s just a couple of minor repairs needed. A few shingles needed to be replaced. And that was the start of our, you know, my conversation to go with him. I said, well, give me a bid and we’ll go from there.
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That’s great to hear. And how long did the process take from your first call to the final treatment?
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Well, it was an excellent experience. They were very accommodating with my time. Dave was very willing to meet my needs. And so it gave me an idea of what it would take to repair it. It wasn’t very much. And so I think it was maybe he came over one day and then maybe two days afterwards and got it all done. All in one day. It was awesome.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Charlie, in my ear just a moment ago was asking Josh and I both about the Loop. So if you don’t know what the Loop is, it’s Elon Musk. And initially, the Boring Company was under Tesla. It is not any longer. It has split off. They’ve done enough tunneling now in Vegas, and their plan is to go to other cities and do the exact same thing. Vegas became kind of the test model just because it has more visitors, and they thought they could – I do at least around the convention center and show that, hey, yeah, this thing works. And I learned a lot. In fact, again, I’m one of those guys where, you know, I get in the front seat and I ask the driver all sorts of questions. And it happened to me in my very last ride as I was heading out Thursday, I actually got in the front seat of this particular Tesla and there was a gal there that’s worked for them since the beginning. Super knowledgeable. And we just sort of started chatting, and there was one point where we were kind of waiting for traffic, and so there was a little bit of a delay, and I just started pumping her full of questions, like, what about this, and what about that, and have they thought about doing this, and have they thought about doing that, and how are things going in general, and blah, blah, blah. And man, I learned a lot. And bottom line is, it’s doing extremely well. Originally, they had about 60 stops planned in the Vegas area. They’re now up to over 100 stops in the Vegas area. And the way they’ve done it, to Elon’s credit, every stop will pay for its own stop. So he’ll pay for the tunneling to and from each stop, but you’re paying for your own station. So once he pops up, underground into your station, you’re building the rest of that out. So that’s your money. Now, on the same token, the fare that will come into that particular station, you will get a portion of to pay yourself back for the money that you’re putting into that particular stop and that station. Some stations will be fancier than others, but at the end of the day, that’s how it works. And they’re already doing some of that right now, and they’re continuing to add and add and add. And I ask questions like, okay, how are you going around like – you know, infrastructure and things like that that might be underground. I mean, you have to know where all these things are at. How are you getting around some of this stuff? And she’s like, if we have to, we’ll go around it. So if there’s even a property owner that doesn’t want us boring underneath, you know, won’t give us permission to go underneath their property, we bore around it. We tunnel around it, and we don’t worry about it, and we just go to the next thing. And I said, okay, so what about – You know, you’re moving a lot of people. Is there any plans to where, especially when there’s a lot of different people going to the same destination, are you going to add, you know, more cars? Or is it pretty much always going to be some sort of a Tesla where you can get three to four passengers max in it? And eventually they’re going to go to self-driving, of course, where you then have one other person you could actually put in the car. But for right now, there’s still a driver. And her answer was, no, there’s really no plans to add multi-car systems. Might be right at the convention center. That might be something down the road where they put some sort of a tram in play. But most likely, they’re going to do cars. And the reason is, this is her exact answer. And I don’t know where she stands politically. But here’s her exact answer. There’s a reason why mass transit doesn’t work. And I said, yeah, because most people want to go different places and not everybody wants to be on the same bus at the same time. She said, precisely. She said, well, we have learned in all the studies and all of the – uh surveys and stuff such that we have done most people want to be in that single car where they know they can go from a to b faster and not have to wait with everybody else unloading loading and all the other stuff so our model is we’re going to continue to use you know four passenger five passenger cars to shuttle people from point a to point b because we know we can get them there faster and they’ll use it where they won’t use mass transit By the way, solid answer on her part because that is exactly why in most cases mass transit does not work because nobody wants to be in a cattle car going from A to B and having 15 stops along the way because the way the loop’s going to work eventually is if you buy a ticket from, say, the airport to the Bellagio, you’re going from the airport to the Bellagio. You’re not stopping at every other station along the way. It’s almost like an underground Uber ride.
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And I had that happen. They can change where that car is going. They’re like, where are you headed? And they’re like, okay, we’re changing this one to go to the south station instead of the north station.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. And, guys, I will say this. If you ever get a chance to go to Vegas and at least use the loop, do it. It’s worth the experience just to see how cool everything underground is.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it’s efficient. Every time I’ve ridden it, I hardly ever wait in any form of a line. Me too. By the time you come down the central station, you come down the escalator, and they queue you over to your queue, and away you go.
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No, same deal. Go ahead, Charlie. Oh, and the sphere. So Charlie said, you know, talk about the sphere. I did not go to the sphere. Several of you even asked me before I was going to go if I was going to get a chance to do it. And quite honestly, no. I put on, and Josh is the same, I put about 15,000 steps a day in. So, you know, you’re covering, it’s about 2,000 steps a mile. So think about how many miles, you know. You basically walk in a day’s time, and I’ll be quite honest, by the time you got back to the hotel and cleaned up a little bit and went and had some dinner, just honestly, yeah, I’m done. I’m finished. I know I’ve got the next day to go, and no, I’m not going anywhere.
SPEAKER 05 :
My watch says I do seven or ten mile days. It depends on which was the busier. And that’s, you know, we’re still sitting in classes. We’re still, you know, spending time just standing in a booth. It doesn’t count. But you’re going to do at least seven miles, if not ten. Yeah, I didn’t go to Spear this time. I went to Spear two years ago to a show there.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s cool.
SPEAKER 05 :
And there’s nothing like it. There’s absolutely nothing remotely like it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve heard that. I’ve never been myself. But every person I’ve ever talked to, I’ve never heard a bad review yet.
SPEAKER 05 :
now from the fact that like you know the drum beats like will vibrate through your seats to just and the thing that they can change the language is for if you go to like certain movies and stuff like that they can set them the language up to where you’re sitting and i’ve been to quite a few concerts and this is the best sounding show i’ve ever been to because they basically have that set up so well that where you’re at you’re getting almost your own sound system so it’s just it’s crazy
SPEAKER 03 :
and all it is really cool so yeah that’s one of those things where if you ever get a chance to go definitely you know do that I wish we had probably a mistake I made was I probably should have either stayed through and came home today and not been on air or maybe should have went a day early and tried to do some of that stuff but I tried to you know cram as much into you know one week as I could still get everything else done I need to do and that’s just kind of how I do things and should have planned you know a day where I you know afternoon or whatever I could have gone to the sphere and done some of that but no Folks, I didn’t. So those of you that have had the chance to do so, you already know what we’re talking about. Those that haven’t and you get in that area and you get a chance to do it, yeah, it’s worth doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s worth it.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s not cheap, but it’s worth it. All right. We’ve got half an hour left. Questions, 303-477-5600. You can send me a text as well. 307-200-8222. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Josh and I are laughing. 303-477-5600. Now, this is not to belittle anybody, but I’m 61, okay? I’m not a spring chicken, although I have no artificial joints or hips or knees or anything like that, so I get around really well. Again, we were doing 15,000 steps a day, so that’s roughly 6 1⁄2 to 7 miles. And keep in mind, this is pretty much on concrete or if you go outside and you’re on asphalt parking lot, you’re walking to and from on the asphalt or the concrete. So, you know, these are not steps that are in the grass. These are – and you wear good shoes. I mean, we’ll say that. One of the things I learned – gosh, I’ve been going since 87. So one thing I learned even back then was you’ve got to wear good shoes. I’ve made that mistake and had blisters. And, no, I’ve learned throughout the years never do that again. So wear good shoes. But in spite of all that – There’s a lot of, and I don’t know, I know, I need to be careful here because I don’t know everybody’s physical condition. I understand. I don’t. But to me, far too many scooters running around each aisle. From what I can look at and think are pretty well-abled individuals that you’ve got to be wondering, why are you on a scooter? Is it just because you can and it’s easier and you don’t have to put all the miles on and so on? And I’m just going to say it straight up because you guys know me. I don’t beat around the bush. Those things drive me crazy. I hate those stinking scooters because all they do is clog the aisle up. It’s like the slow-moving emergency vehicle in the middle of the road that everybody has to stay behind. That’s literally what happens when you get a scooter in the aisle. And remember, people, this now has become – I did do some checking on this. I had said this wrong even last week. I thought SEMA was still number two behind CES. I was talking to a local in Vegas that knows the numbers and all these things and so on, and he’s like, no, you guys are number one now. CES, because of how much stuff you can do online and so on, CES is not as big as you guys. You are now number one. SEMA is the number one largest trade show Vegas has every single year, bar none. You guys far surpass even CES. So as Josh was saying earlier, the amount of people that are actually in the aisleways and so on, there are times where I’m not exaggerating, folks. It’s like exiting a Bronco game. It’s that many people in one place at one time in the aisles. It is literally like being in line exiting the Bronco game. I’m not lying, am I?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you’re not.
SPEAKER 03 :
There’s that many people.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it feels like exiting the Indy 500 all day long.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. Now, if some of you go to our website, Drive Radio, we’re putting some pictures and stuff up. Now, you’re going to notice on there that there’s pictures with no one in there. As a media person, I’m able to enter the show earlier than the general public, which for me works out really well because the only way I can get good shots of those vehicles that I then put up on the website is because I’m there at 8 a.m. Show opens at 9, but I’m able to actually get in and do a lot of picture taking and literally cover a lot. So I’m probably walking all of them twice. Because I’m able to get there really early, cover an entire hall, take a bunch of pictures. You’re almost at a jog where you’re running through as much as you can to try to get as many pictures as you can, knowing there’s nobody there at that point. Because a minute, 9 o’clock opens, all bets are off on taking pictures. You’re not going to get any.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that and that’s the other hard part is you’re tripping over somebody with a camera all day long because they’re all trying.
SPEAKER 03 :
Once I’m done with my once nine o’clock hits, I’m not taking pictures anymore. So for all of you that go to the website and see some of the pictures I took, those are all done from eight to nine a.m. Because after that, forget it. You’re not getting any good shots. To Josh’s point, if you try, you’re that idiot that’s in the way. Yeah. I’m sorry to say, but you are. You’re blocking traffic when you’re that, and I don’t want to be that guy. I won’t be that guy. So I get up early, get to the convention center early, get everything I need to do out of the way, get all my emails handled for the morning, whatever, and I show up, and I am literally walking to the convention center at about 745, and at 8 o’clock, I’m in, and I’m running around doing as many of those pictures as I can, trying to get as much intake as possible. And I don’t have them all loaded. I’ll give producer and a few more of those to put up here over the weekend because I didn’t get a chance to do all that while I was there. But yeah, you’re literally, you know, just going from booth to booth to booth to booth, you know, trying to get as many of those shots in as I can early morning. So I’m literally probably walking all of the halls twice.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it’s crazy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because once nine hits, it’s no joke. It’s almost like, again, you go to a ball game, and a lot of people wait in line before the gates open. As soon as the gates open, they go rushing in. SEMA is exactly that same way.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s like the running of the bulls.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can be at the back of the convention center, and I know when they opened it at 9 o’clock.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I was up front, and it was just somebody pushing me right through the other day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, you’re getting forced through in that particular situation just like you would be at a ball game or anything else along those lines. So anyways, it is a lot of fun. I’ll be adding some more things to it. We’ll be talking about a few more things. But I will say this, that outside of some of the automation. and I was going to talk about some of the manufacturers who aren’t there. So it used to be everybody was there. I mean, everybody was there. Kia, Hyundai, General Motors, Ford, of course, all the Chrysler, Stellantis products. You would even get some of the BMW, Mercedes, and some of those guys, not quite as big a booth, but they would all be there. Subaru used to have a presence at SEMA. I mean, I can go down the list. Now, currently, Ram, Toyota,
SPEAKER 05 :
There was a little Nismo, which is the Nissan’s performance division.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s it, right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And even Ram was Jeep and Ram together.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was worthless. It was just all their aftermarket. I’m sorry. They could have skipped it. Yeah. I’m being honest. Ram could have skipped the show. They didn’t bring enough there. Even concept vehicles, they didn’t bring enough that were even worth thinking with.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was just all their same stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m sorry. I didn’t see anything new there. That part was disappointing. Ram could have just closed up and not even worry about it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Usually, they have more stuff at the Jeep Jamboree and Moab than they do at the SEMA. Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
So again, no presence from General Motors, no presence from Ford. So all of your big manufacturers are no longer there at SEMA, which was literally kind of disappointing because you would think that you’d have some concept cars and some things like that. But, you know, it shows you they’ve all cut back. It’s expensive to go to SEMA. Some of those larger booths are a million bucks plus to rent, plus all of your staffing of and bringing everything in and paying the union to set your booth up and, and, and, and, and. I mean, it gets really, really expensive. So i’m guessing because of that expense some of those larger uh you know presence you know some of those larger manufacturers no longer have a presence there yeah and they don’t even toyota’s wasn’t as good as it no it was drab yeah i’m sorry sorry toyota the biggest the coolest thing in the toyota booth i will talk about this before we go to break the coolest thing in the toyota booth is they had a concept scion it was on a trailer behind a tundra That is like the ultimate UTV you’ve ever seen in your life. And you’ll see it online. There’s already pictures out and so on. I’ll be putting some of my pictures up over the weekend as well. And it is, I will say this to Toyota, the coolest off-road, quote-unquote, buggy-type rig I think I’ve ever seen. It was, on a cool factor, it’s above a 10. And I don’t know what their future plan is. It was just a concept thing they had. They had Scion on the side of it that was kind of embedded into the camouflage that they had on it. But that part, that was probably one of the coolest vehicles of that type that you could see there. Just the way they, I mean, again, all top-notch, professionally, I mean… No expense spared building this thing, let’s just say it that way. From the wheel and tire combo to the drivetrain to the engine, it’s 400 horsepower, the whole nine yards. I mean, it was, again, on a cool factor, very big. Now, the other thing that was there, which, and I’m sorry, I don’t have a ton of pictures of, so if you guys look at pictures later and you wonder why, and you’ll see other pictures of, I’m not, and even though I was in this world forever and I built trucks for years, I never did do any of the crazy, you know, 12, 14-inch lift kits and so on. That stuff just never did anything for me because you’re essentially not having a truck at that point. It’s strictly a showpiece. There’s still a lot of those there. I thought that trend maybe had ended. It’s still rolling along strong. It’s one I don’t understand. If you’re into it, you do you. I get it, but it’s just not, for me, it’s just never been anything I’ve ever been into.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, there’s a whole field of those. They all look the same because they all have the low profile, wide rims, and they’re lifted. But I couldn’t tell them apart after a while. I went to the field and I couldn’t.
SPEAKER 03 :
They all look the same.
SPEAKER 05 :
They all look the same to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and that part to me is a little disappointing because there is no… I guess you could say they’re all buying basically the same parts and putting things on and doing their straight axle kits if it’s a GM or if it’s a Ford it already has, and they’re changing things out. And, yes, they do different things with drive training, and they’ve all got fancy custom paint and so on. In fact, there was a big F-350 there that was a six-door instead of a four-door, huge, ginormous. I mean, these are things, by the way, folks, you’ll never even drive on the street. They’re just showpieces only.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, the lift on that one looked like a suspension bridge.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. The way it was set up. Correct. It was crazy. And frankly, a lot of them, and this never gets talked about, most of them probably couldn’t even drive down the road at 75 miles an hour.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
They’d come apart if they did. Yeah. Because most of them don’t even have the right driveline angles or anything else. They’re just a rolling bag of bolts, if you ask me. I’m just not a fan of.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they’re trailer queens.
SPEAKER 03 :
They get trailers for the show. Those things, everybody I wonder is, you know, why don’t you take more pictures of such and such? Because they don’t do a single thing for me. I get it. I’m not all of the audience. But I’d rather see, you know, a custom car that’s done up nice or even a good resto mod that somebody did really well. Or in the case of the quote-unquote new Chevelles that are there, they’re called Chevelle SSs. They’re new. It’s a Camaro that they redo. So it’s a fully drivable, functioning, modern car. But it’s a Camaro base that they put some old Chevelle, like a 70 Chevelle sheet metal on. And I will tell you this. They’re not cheap. I think they’re a quarter million bucks. But they are nice. They are. I mean, they are superbly done. I mean, they are done so superbly, Josh. I mean, there is nothing out of place on those cars.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I checked them out pretty hard because I was like, oh, most of them are kind of scary.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not these.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they’re far from good and good from far. But once I got on, I was like, wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
These things are dialed into the max. They did it right. Yeah. All right, I’ve got more to talk about. We’ll throw a few more things at you when we come back. Questions, we’ve got 15 minutes left, 303-477-5600. Again, drive radio, text line 307-200-8222. We’ll be right back right after this.
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 5CC, and recapping some of what Josh and I saw out at SEMA show, which, again, for a lot of you, that is the Specialty Equipment Manufacturing Association. It’s industry week. It’s probably the best way to say it. That’s what Vegas calls it, and it’s a big deal for them, as I said earlier. Literally, you’d go someplace, you’d go to a restaurant or wherever, and, you know, what are you in town for? And you’d say SEMA, and they’re like, yep, all about it. The entire town knows what that is.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you get used to everybody having those badges around their neck. Every place you go, even when I was through security at the airport, I don’t know how many guys still had that badge around their neck.
SPEAKER 03 :
And me, I’m one of those where it’s like, as soon as I exit the thing, I take it off.
SPEAKER 05 :
I do, too. I get tired of wearing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I do, too. I don’t want that thing around my neck anymore. I’m done.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it just kind of beats on you all day. I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s kind of picky. Same way. I am done. I’m tired of this badge. Yeah. No, anyways, the whole town knows all about it. It’s a big deal for Vegas, brings in a lot of revenue for them, of course, and because of all the other spending that goes on outside of even the folks that are there, you know, from the restaurants to the, you know, rental cars and taxis and Ubers and so on. It’s a big deal. In fact, there are people that will come in just to work that particular week. because of how big it is in fact it will draw more people than the f1 does yep it does just because of how many people because again literally every single convention hall i think even mandalay bay has stuff in it so the reality is every hall is pretty much full with some sort of industry something or other uh this past week so it’s a big deal and i think most of the hotels are pretty full too you know when i was checking all the way down the strip there they were full Yeah, no, that’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And not only that, but think of these companies, all the people they bring in, like the Milwaukee tool.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, they just had now that I will say this the first time at SEMA, I’ve seen anything as big as what Milwaukee had just shows you how big they’re getting in the industry.
SPEAKER 05 :
Milwaukee and Harbor Freight, I mean, each year I’ve been watching Harbor Freight where they had the little booth.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now they had, you know, what was it, a four, I guess the equivalent of four bays, four booths in one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
All their stuff, and they staff them too. You see all these companies that a few years ago maybe they had one booth and, you know, three guys, maybe five sitting there. Now they’ve got a crew of 30. That’s on the floor at that time. I’m sure they’re alternating them through because there’s always somebody wandering.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it’s a huge expense for these guys. But, you know, it’s their marketing. It’s what they do to try to gain more customers when it’s all said and done. A company like Harbor Freight knows if they can get a certain amount of people, technicians if you would, owners even, to transition out of one particular product line into their product line, well, of course, that’s how they’re making money. That’s what they want to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they were introducing all kinds of stuff. I mean, I can’t say I was the biggest Harbor Freight fan, but they have a lot of stuff. They have a new scan tool out that one of their engineers was there, and I spent some time with him. And then they have a new transmission jack that looks the equivalent of everybody else’s out there now. So, you know, all these things that they release at SEMA and, you know, all kinds of tools and not just car parts and stuff like that, but they all get released at SEMA. It’s a big deal, and they have all kinds of promotions around it, you know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. Now, the other thing, too, that happens at SEMA, somebody just asked me, was the guys from Count, you know, Counting Cars there. I think I did see some of the publicity stuff that he was there. I’m guessing they had some car they must have built or done something along those lines. And there’s a lot of celebrities that come and go. In fact, my wife and I were talking about this one day on Thursday. There was a particular line. I don’t know who the celebrity was, but this stinking line was a mile is probably an exaggeration, but this stinking thing was at least 50 yards long, and I’m not exaggerating. Now, for me personally, President Trump’s not worth waiting in line for a 50-yard wait to get anything. I’m not a guy. I could care less about autographs and memorabilia and things like that, so I’m not waiting in line for anybody. I don’t care who they are. Just not my thing. I look at everybody the same way. Everybody puts their pants on one leg at a time, and at the end of the day, I really don’t care who you are, because I’m not waiting in line to get your autograph, because no offense, you don’t mean that much to me. And I’m not trying to be rude. I just, you don’t mean that much to me. I don’t really care.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I got in trouble at SEMA last time. There’s a certain star that… I was walking right next to Jason Momoa of Aquaman and all that. My wife thinks he’s whatever, but she’s like, you didn’t get his autograph. I’m like, no, we’re both car guys. We were there for the same thing. I don’t care what he’s doing. I wasn’t going to get in his way of seeing the cars and stuff he wants. I respect him. Because he’s a car guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve stood in the same area, been elbow to elbow with Chip Foose, had even a small conversation, small talk, whatever. But I’m not going to stop and even get his autograph. At the end of the day, he’s a guy that just wants to be there to enjoy what he’s doing and not worry about it. And those guys get hit up for so much of that stuff on a regular basis. I feel like at times they’re more apt to talk to you and be more open with you if you’re not doing that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, and I had the same with Chip Foose. He was in the 3M booth showing how to sand something. It wasn’t about, oh, Chip Foose, you’re the greatest. We were talking about the product and why he uses it, you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right. I mean, and you’ll meet some of these guys that are literally about as down to earth as it gets, and then you’ll meet some of the quote-unquote hot shots, and I’m sorry to say names, but the Richard Rawlings that are out there where, yeah, he’s going to make sure you know who he is. Mm-hmm. And he is the opposite of Chip Foose, just saying. Those two are not in the same caliber of individual at all. Nothing against Richard, but he is not Chip Foose. And no offense, Chip Foose builds cars that are ten times the quality and caliber that, you know, whatever it is, Gas Monkey Garage does. But yet Richard wants you to know who Richard is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Chip Foose knows who he is and doesn’t need his ego stroked. When a lot of the other guys just need their egos stroked the whole time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I’m not one of those. You guys all know me by now. A, I don’t need my ego stroked. I am fine with who I am. I don’t need it stroked. I don’t need to go stroke somebody else’s either. So at the end of the day, we’re all the same. We’re all trying to get the same things accomplished at the end of the day. And I’ve also learned that… What some people consider to be a celebrity, really, at the end of the day, they’re not. They might be in their own world or their own mind, but at the end of the day, they’re really no different than anybody else. That’s just my take on it. So there’s all of that that’s there, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I mean, it was good. I saw Jay Leno was on that little stage in the center hall, and that was good because, you know, he loves cars, too.
SPEAKER 03 :
He’s a good guy, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it’s like, you know, you could just kind of— Nobody’s there, oh, you’re Jay Leno. Oh, Jay Leno talking about cars. And it was like, and, you know, he knows his cars.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, he does. Oh, no, out of all the people, absolutely knows his cars. Absolutely. All right, Vic is next. Let’s take Vic here. Probably be our last caller. Go ahead, Vic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, hi, John. Enjoy your show. Yeah, I have a 1989 Chevy Suburban with a 350. You know, it’s got 180,000 miles on it. It runs great. The only issue is every time I start it up, after it’s been sitting, it blows out a big puff of white smoke. And then after that, it goes away. Go ahead, Josh.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it sounds like it needs a valve job. So basically the stem seals on the valves are starting to go. And what happens is as it sits, the oil runs down the stem seals of the valves, goes in the combustion chamber. And then when you fire it off, you burn that little bit of oil. And it goes away because the valves are moving. And it’s only when it sits for, you know, half a day or a day, you know, that you get that puff of smoke.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s probably Chevrolet, right? Yeah. It is. Yeah. That’s very common. Right. and is it it’s not I mean what year I didn’t know if I caught that 89 89 okay yeah yeah there are and this is something Chevrolet’s have had a problem with for years and years and years uh there are different type of valve seals that can be put on to try to eliminate that it’s called an umbrella seal because they usually just have a little o-ring that’s on the stem itself and they do an umbrella seal that helps that And they do actually work at the end of the day, although I would be one, Vic, to not mess with it until it gets profusely worse.
SPEAKER 05 :
And still start fouling out plugs.
SPEAKER 03 :
Until then, I wouldn’t worry about it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, really? Okay, cool.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just make sure you keep it full of oil. I mean, it’s not using that much oil, but just check it periodically. And until it gets to the point where it’s really bad, I wouldn’t worry about it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I’ve never seen those oil additives, you know, that make seals swell.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they won’t on that anyways because, again— On those, it’s just literally a small little, and it was not the best of design, in my opinion, from Chevrolet and what they did there. And I know why they did it, and I won’t get into all the details of. But in this particular case, because of the way that that’s even designed, there’s not a single thing additive-wise that’s going to do to fix it, period.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, that was going to be my next question.
SPEAKER 03 :
Gotcha. In other cases, you might be able to put some seal softening type chemicals in and get a little bit of an advantage on some other types of engines, but in this one, you’re not going to do a thing about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Hey, great. Thanks so much, guys. You guys take care.
SPEAKER 03 :
Vic, you’re very welcome. I appreciate it. The only other thing you can try on a small block, which sometimes helps a little bit, is you could go, depending upon mileage, you go to a little bit heavier viscosity oil. It might help a teeny bit, although most of what’s happening is when everything’s hot and the oil’s hot, so it doesn’t even matter what viscosity it has at that point. Overnight, to Josh’s point, those seals are getting brittle, and they’re not sealing like they should, and the oil overnight will seep down into the combustion chamber, which isn’t all bad. It will get some carbon buildup potentially, but that means the valve guides are getting oiled and so on. So, again, it’s not a 100% bad thing, and I wouldn’t mess with it until you get some sort of continual smoke. If you’re just getting a puff in the mornings, no offense, some of those old Chevrolets, that’s all they ever did. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Almost new.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, literally, yeah. Again, that’s one of those areas where I wouldn’t worry about it. Somebody did send in, and I appreciate this, on kit cars and sent me the exact law here in Colorado. Kit cars in Colorado, and double-check this because this was a link that was sent to me, kit cars in Colorado will not – or do not have to have the same emissions requirements as other cars do. So thank you for sending that. That’s something that you’d have to go through the proper registration with at the county and so on, or DMV, to make sure that all that is as it needs to be. But it looks like for a lot of the kit cars coming into Colorado, you wouldn’t necessarily have to get an emissions test. Now, what I don’t know is… Is that new? Is that used? Is it a combination of? Bottom line, before you do any kit car purchases, check that out. We were talking about that in the first hour, but check all that out to make sure that you’re going to be up to speed so you don’t have any issues with the car. A kit car you might be buying out of state, for example. How is it registered? What year is it registered as? What’s the VIN look like? And so on. Those are things you can do some pre-checking on before you buy a car.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And lastly, and I talked about this some last week, be really careful with what you buy online, especially when it comes to used cars. Do not give deposits. If you do, make sure it’s a credit card so you can get your money back. So many, and I mean so many scammers out there that will make everything look completely legit. But at the end of the day, it’s nothing more than to scam your money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and we get scammed, people trying to scam us at the dealership all day long too. So the opposite. It’s the opposite. It’s on both sides. If they can run a scam – the thing is when you’ve heard it a few times, you know pretty quick. But we had one the other day that we made it through a couple rounds before. It came out that it was a scam.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, sometimes it’s – for those of you listening, even for those of us, Josh and I, who do some of this stuff on a routine basis. I had one of my clients the other day ask me, do I think this particular ad is a scam or not? And I’m like, you know what? In that particular case, I wouldn’t buy anything without seeing it in person. Mm-hmm. Period. Plane tickets are cheap. I mean, I would spend $300 or $400 on a plane ticket and go look at something face-to-face before I would hand any kind of money on, wire money or do something online or anything along those lines. In a lot of cases, you could fly there and look at it and turn around and come back same day and save money.
SPEAKER 05 :
There’s a lot of cars out there. They look good in pictures. They even look good when you’re standing next to it, but you put it up in the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s a different story.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s probably a whole other conversation we’ll have. In fact, that’d be a great Extra Mile conversation that we can have in the future. Don’t forget the Extra Mile, Drive Radio Extra Mile, today, 3 to 4 p.m. Otherwise, guys, we’re going to get out of here. Larry Unger has been answering phones. Charlie Grimes, your engineer. Josh, thank you so much, as always. Thanks for having me. Appreciate you very much. You can find Josh and everybody else that helps us do this on a weekly basis. Go to drive-radio.com. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 04 :
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