Join John Rush as he tackles two of today’s most critical issues: human trafficking and media bias. With guest Dan Nash, learn about the startling facts behind human trafficking in America, where most victims are U.S. citizens, predominantly women. Nash emphasizes the dire need for law enforcement training and raises public awareness on how to identify and help trafficking victims. The conversation evolves into a critical analysis of media bias, exploring the lack of coverage on racially charged crimes and questioning societal double standards. It’s an episode that provokes thought and calls for action on several fronts.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us. By the way, lots of text messages today. Fire off the week, which I appreciate greatly as well. Some of it regarding some of what we talked about in our last hour. Some of it regarding things that don’t really need to go on air. Prices of… certain tickets and things along those lines. But I, I appreciate you guys texting me all that information anyways, because it helps me out immensely. And some of what you guys send me, I just, I literally, I just shake my, my head at Dan Nash joining us now, Dan, welcome. How are you, sir?
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I’m fantastic. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m doing very good, Dan. And before we get going, first of all, tell us, you know, Dan Nash, you are the founder of Human Trafficking Training Center. Talk a little bit about what you guys do.
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So what we do is we provide skills-based human trafficking training to law enforcement all across America. And there’s a real need for that. People don’t understand it’s kind of one of those human trafficking myths that law enforcement is prepared or understands how to deal with human trafficking. And there’s quite a bit of research out there. In fact, the most recent study basically says that only 17% of law enforcement across America has any human trafficking training. And most people think that is, you know, the people that don’t have it are like small police departments or small sheriff’s departments. But that’s actually not true. Nope.
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It’s not true at all. And that one, A, because of some of the interviews I’ve done in the past and just some of the folk that I talk to, and Dan, it’s not their fault. I mean, in a lot of ways, they’re taking care of traffic situations. They’re doing traffic mitigation. They’re running DUI stuff. They’re looking for the last vehicle that was stolen. I mean, I go down the list of all of the other things that they have on their plate, and you’re right. In reality, and I don’t even know… This is one thing I don’t know is in the academies is what you’re talking about even covered on the academy level?
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No, it’s not. And it’s even like the largest agencies and it’s even investigative agencies. So, you know, one of the examples I like to use is a big agency that everybody knows or is familiar with, and that’s the FBI. They literally get zero human trafficking training. So when they leave their academy to go out to wherever they’re going to be assigned to to investigate crime, They don’t understand human trafficking.
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Interesting. And again, it’s my notes here. The hidden majority of U.S. trafficking victims are American women. And why is no one talking about that now that I think the key word there is American women. I think a lot of people think that, you know, the trafficking is folk that come from other countries that are trafficked here. But I again, because of some of the interviews I’ve done, oh, gosh, for the past decade, I know that’s not true either.
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Correct. Some two-thirds to three-quarters of all trafficking victims in America are just U.S. citizens, and they’re females, basically. And we talk about kids, and we should be talking about kids. That’s a big deal, right? And now that the border is secure, that will help things tremendously. But kids are not the largest group that’s trafficked in America, nor is it people coming from overseas. It’s American citizens.
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Are most people that are involved in it there because they want to, because they got trapped into doing it, because they’re paying a debt? How does a woman find herself there?
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So typically trafficking is all about vulnerabilities, right? So in all the years I’ve been doing trafficking, some 17 years, I think I’ve only found like one or two victims ever that were not physically or sexually abused as a child. So we get that super common. Kids that are the runaways. kids that are in the foster care system, or adults that maybe come from poverty, maybe they have some kind of a romance thing, and then somebody abuses them and tricks them, or whatever it is. So it’s really just all about vulnerabilities, and traffickers see those vulnerabilities, they exploit those vulnerabilities, and then the next thing you know, these victims are being trafficked, and they’re in a situation where they can’t really get out.
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What’s the average age? Do you have that data?
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You know, there’s all kinds of stuff out there. There’s one study that’s out there that I don’t put a whole lot of stock in. I think most people that have been doing trafficking for a long time don’t, and they say that the average age is 12 to 14. I don’t know that I put a ton of stock in that. I would say the average trafficking victim in America is probably 18 to 24. Okay.
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And again, from some of the interviews and things that I’ve done, I would agree with you on that. Some might start into that or be groomed into that a little bit younger in life and be on their way. And again, unless I’m wrong and I’ve heard incorrectly, some of these groomers will spend a year or more in some cases getting these girls ready to go. Am I right in that?
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For sure, 100%. And that doesn’t mean that it didn’t start when they were 15 or 16 or 17 or whatever. But if you look at the average age of us finding these people, they’re, you know, late teens, early 20s, up to maybe early 30s.
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How do you, and this is, I think, probably something that you work with law enforcement on, how do you identify when somebody is in that business?
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So there’s a whole host of ways that we can do that. And once we teach law enforcement how to do that, it happens really quickly because And the example that I like to use is, how do you expect a police officer to arrest a drunk driver if he doesn’t know what a drunk driver looks like driving down the road, right? And he needs to be able to walk up on that vehicle, see bloodshot glassy eyes, and smell the odor of intoxicants, and see slurred speech, and ask him to step out and see decreased motor skills, and do a standardized field sobriety test. All those things are skills. Well, if we teach the police skills, then they will do the same thing when it comes to human trafficking. Last year, we taught… 7,000 police officers across America that left our training and found 587 trafficking victims. The last four trainings that we’ve done, I’m in South Carolina right now doing a training for the next couple days here. But we just left the training out in Utah, and I don’t know, that was about a month ago. And since we left, those people in that training have found 11 trafficking victims. I mean, it happens really quickly once the police have the proper skills.
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And the reason I said business a moment ago is I meant that on purpose, because for those folk that are running said operations, it’s a business to them, is it not, Dan?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, traffickers only care about one thing, and there’s a big difference between being a trafficker and being a predator, right? A predator, you know, somebody that’s interested in maybe a child, and they’re trying to satisfy some paraphilia for sex. Traffickers don’t care about that. Traffickers only care about money, and they’re only interested in making money off of somebody. And typically what we think of is prostitution because that’s the easiest thing for us to see. But they make these girls do a whole host of other things. These girls that they just found in Salt Lake here a while back, They were not only forced into prostitution, but they were also forced into going out and breaking into cars and stealing purses and wallets and IDs and then bringing that stuff back to the traffickers.
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So it was more than just the sexual end of things. They’re out doing physical, I mean, other crimes associated with that. And you’re right, and I know this, and it’s why… The trafficking thing has become so big, and I talk about it all the time, is the fact that they have a different inventory supply than what they’re used to selling. When it comes to drugs and other things, guns, et cetera, there’s a supply. You’ve got to go out and find that, rebuy it. It depletes. You’ve got to get it again and again and again. When it comes to the trafficking end, they’ve got several years of a product. Am I right in saying it that way, Dan?
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100%. Everything that you said is totally accurate. And think about it. If you were being trafficked and you had a $3,000 or $2,500 or whatever it is, trap or quota for the day, and your trafficker came to you and said, hey, here’s the deal. You can go have sex with 10 guys today and make me that money, or you can go steal me credit cards or go steal wallets out of cars. What would you do? I’d go steal all day long if those were my choices, right?
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It would be a lot easier personally. Yes, I think that would be the best way to do it, and that’s to your point. That’s why they’re not – and you taught me something today. I didn’t realize they put them out into doing other things besides just the sex thing. That makes total sense because basically that particular manager, let’s call him that, has a quota to meet out of X amount of people working for him. No different than any other business, by the way, Dan. There’s certain income levels that they want to be required to have met. Now, the consequences there are probably a little bit different in the business world, but the reality is there’s consequences.
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100%.
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Yeah, the girls get beat. And the girls will tell you time after time after time. Everything is about the path of least assault. That’s the world they live in. It’s the path of least assault. And if you can go out and steal or shoplift or commit fraud or forgery or whatever and not have to have sex with 10 or 15 guys a day, well, of course you’re going to do that because then you don’t get a beating at the end of the day. You’re just trying to get your quarter for the day.
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Okay, so how do you get them out of this? Once they’re found, I mean, is that a situation where it’s typically police get involved, you then get them out because other people are prosecuted, or are there other ways to get them out outside of that?
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The best way is honestly for law enforcement. They’re in the best possible position to find the most trafficking victims. And if we just get a trafficking victim out, I’m all for that. I’m a fan of that. But if that’s all we do and we don’t arrest the traffickers, The traffickers just go get another one, and we’re like a hamster running around on a wheel. We have to put the traffickers in prison and get the victims out of there. And we come up with a very specific way of how we teach law enforcement to do that, and it’s super, super effective. And then not only can we get the victims out of there, we get them into services through programs and advocates and all that kind of stuff, whatever they need, rehab, whatever they need, and then we make that happen. you know, prosecutable case on that trafficker, that is what we need to do.
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All right. I just had a great text message from a moment ago from somebody. This is a great question. I’m glad they asked this, where they basically said that, you know, Shine Frontier Days was just in our area. It was a big deal. All the truck stops, et cetera, had signs all over saying, you know, stop human trafficking, blah, blah, blah, which is great, by the way. But this particular texter’s response is, I wouldn’t know one if I saw one. So can you give everybody listening some pointers on, you know, We all know what a drunk driver looks like and when to call somebody that’s weaving around traffic or driving erratically or too slow or too fast, depending upon what’s going on. We know who to call there and we know what to look for. How do we spot somebody that’s being trafficked?
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So there’s lots of things you can read on Google, and I can give you all these things about, you know, look for somebody that’s being controlled, somebody that’s not in control of their money, their ID, or how they talk to people and all those kinds of things. And there’s all those things, and those are all 100% accurate. But to me, especially in a truck stop scenario, the easiest thing to look for is just look for prostitution. 92% to 94% of all prostitution in America is trafficking. The idea that somebody wants to be a prostitute is really just a fallacy. I mean, it’s like finding the Sasquatch. There’s very, very, very few of them. So just report prostitution. If you see prostitution, just report it.
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Okay, good to know. Dan, how do folks find you? In fact, we’ve got police agencies, others, police officers that listen to this program. I know because I know some of them personally, they’re not able to call in and talk because you know how that works inside of the police world. They’ve got to have that particular department and the spokesperson do that for them. But I know they’re listening. If they are and they want to know more about what you’re doing and they want to pass that on to folks that they know internally, how do they do that?
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You can find us at the humantraffickingtrainingcenter.com, humantraffickingtrainingcenteraltogether.com. You can call us from there. You can email us from there. And if I can help you, whether it’s answer a question when you’re out on patrol or you want to bring a training there, those are all – All things that we would do to help you.
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Awesome. Dan, I appreciate it. Thanks for coming on, bringing awareness to this. It’s a big deal to me. I’ve done many, many interviews over the years like this, and it’s a big thing for me, and I appreciate what you’re doing very much, sir.
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Thank you for having me, and thank you for all you do, sir. Thank you very much.
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You’re very welcome, Dan. Have a great rest of your day. And there you go. So a lot of you officers, folks that might be listening along those lines, if you want to know more about this and how you could bring this to your own department, it’s traffickingtrainingcenter.com. HumanTraffickingTrainingCenter.com. I’ll put that link in. I’ll make sure all that works. I always do. I’ll put that link in my show notes so you guys have got that a little bit later as well. So if you want to go there and make it easy, you can do that also. Golden Eagle Financial. Al Smith did a great interview here of late. Listen in. We’ll be back right after that. Find Al at KLZRadio.com.
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TJ here with KLZ Radio, and I’ve got Al Smith with me once again. How are you, Al? I’m doing great. How are you, TJ? Doing pretty good. We’ve been talking about retirement and all that kind of stuff, and I was just curious, what do you usually talk about with the folks that come in for retirement planning? What does that mean?
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Well, if somebody’s close to that transition where they’re thinking about their 401k and where do you want to allocate that, where’s the best place to have that invested? And some people who were fortunate enough to have a pension will have a conversation about that, especially if it comes to selecting a survivorship option.
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And how does that fit with life insurance and that kind of thing, with pensions and life insurance?
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If someone takes a big reduction in their pension, that’s what they need to do in order to have a spouse collect part of their pension should they pass on. But that reduction in their pension will only benefit them if the primary worker dies before the spouse. Sometimes people choose life insurance instead. which may not provide quite as much financial benefit, but there’s a certainty that the money will stay in their family.
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And is that always a good idea to do, or how do you help folks make that decision?
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Well, it’s kind of a long conversation to some degree because if someone has health concerns, then selecting that survivorship option is always a good idea because it makes it much more likely that your spouse will collect that survivor benefit. On the other hand, sometimes the other spouse may be anticipating an inheritance option,
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That is amazing and complicated, and that’s why I lean on you to learn all about the retirement process. Al, thanks so much for joining us today. Well, you’re welcome. Tell folks how to get in touch with you.
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You can reach me at my office, 303-744-1128. If you get voicemail, I return those very quickly.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And most of you, because I’ve gotten a few text messages on this, I’m sure have seen what happened in Cincinnati where there was a mob of, I don’t know, gosh, when you start counting the people involved in this, eight, ten different, in this case, black people, male and female, adults. Looks like all of them are probably, gosh, in some cases, probably in their 30s. all of them beating up a white man, and there were a few people that tried to intervene, and they started to get beat as well. And, I mean, they literally beat the living tar out of this guy. And J.D. Vance even said today that, you know, every one of these guys ought to be going to jail for doing what they did, and I fully agree with that. And a couple of you even have sent in some things, Joe especially did, that said if this were a black man, and 8, 10, 12 white men and women had done the same thing, the country would have erupted. The left would be up in arms. They would be throwing a major fit today. That would be all over every single news outlet in America. That’s all you’d be hearing about today. But we have one white guy that’s gotten beat up by a bunch of black people, and I guess that’s okay. So how is this not the same racial crime that we would have if it was the other way around? This is a bunch of crap, by the way. Now, I know I’m not going to say anything that’s going to change anything that happens in the mainstream media because they’re just a bunch of scumbags. Marxist scumbags. There’s no other word for it. They have an agenda. They stick to that agenda. And the point is, and they just continue over and over and over. I say it all the time, and it continues to be proven. Those of you that are on the left, and yes, I know there’s lefties that listen to me. So those of you that are on the left, You prove constantly how much your side does not care about people. You talk and talk and talk about how you care about the little guy. You care about this. You care about that. I saw so much hateful comments towards Trump on posts about the EU trade deal that you guys on the left, you’re insane. I have no other word for it. You’re insane. You are wackadoodles. You’re crazy. Literally. Because you talk out of both sides of your mouth. You’ll talk about how bad Trump is and how this is nothing but inflation. It’s going to affect the little guy more than it is the big guy. And it’s only the rich that are going to benefit out of this trade deal and on and on and on. Like you care about people, in other words. You don’t. You don’t care anything about people. Because if you did, you would be outraged at what I’m talking about right now. And I have not seen anybody in mainstream media talk about this story at all. In fact, it hasn’t been a huge period. Most of what I’ve learned were things that were sent to me. I didn’t pick this up on any of the regular news feeds I get, and some of that is coming from the right. Shame on every news outlet for not reporting this more. It’s a load of garbage. And I don’t know what circumstances led up to this. Frankly, I don’t care. I don’t care if this white guy was calling every one of these people the N-word, which I don’t know the backstory. I highly doubt that was happening. But even if he was, doesn’t give the right for a dozen people to basically beat the daylights out of this guy. Period. And the reason I say that is because we still have free speech in this country. Yes, I understand there can be repercussions for that speech, but beating somebody to a pulp is not the repercussion. Ever. I don’t care what the guy’s saying. I don’t care if he’s calling these people every nasty thing in the book. Nothing gives them the right to do what they did. I don’t care what the guy did. Period. Now, again, I don’t know the backstory. Some of you have sent me in some things that, you know, there’s been some interviews with J.D. Vance and some others along these lines who is furious over this and should be, by the way. It’s absolute garbage. Why this isn’t being covered more on mainstream media, I know it’s the left. They’re not going to cover it. They, as I said a moment ago, they don’t care. Period. They don’t care. Because if they did, they would be reporting on this and they would be outraged at watching this. But it just shows you that they don’t care because this is just a white guy that got beat up. They don’t care. And it really is. I mean, this is a crime. I’m with J.D. Vance on this. I really feel like that this particular situation, they need to go through that video footage and identify every single person that’s in there that was beating this guy up. And every one of them needs to go to jail. That’s my feeling on it. Will that happen? I guess time will tell. I hope it does. 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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Hopefully you’re all staying cool out there as it’s still 96 degrees. Joe, go ahead, sir.
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Hey, John, just a little engineering insight into the chemtrail conspiracy. Yes. By the way, you know, there’s a pilot, by the way, as a pilot who flies both turbine and jet aircraft. Now, you know, the U.S. Army has been embarked on a 20 year project to incinerate all of our U.S. poison gas supplies, right? I did not know that. Yeah. In fact, there’s still a bunch of it down near Pueblo Airport, just northeast of Pueblo Airport.
SPEAKER 06 :
There’s a whole— So like the gas we used to have back in the war days. That’s what you’re talking about, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, nerve gas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gotcha. Okay, gotcha.
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And they’ve been involved in a 20-year project, too. And you can just Google, you know, disposal of U.S. nerve gas. It’s been a 20-year project, and they’re still doing it down. Anyway, when they incinerate nerve gas, they do it at 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit. Now, you want to guess what the internal temperature of a jet engine is? Probably that. 1,800 to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. John, there is no chemical or organic compound that could survive going through an 1,800 degree temperature. jet engine and come out the other end intact.
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Joe, won’t some of the chemtrail guys tell you, though, that they’re just spraying it out of the wings of the fuselage, and that’s where the quote-unquote chemtrails are coming from? In fact, a lot of them, when they see the vapor trail, which is what you see across the sky, I don’t know why knuckleheads can’t figure that one out, Joe, because it depends on what the atmosphere is doing as to how heavy those are or not. As you You know, you can explain that better than I can because like any engine, even a car engine, it produces vapor. So those are vapor trails you’re seeing in the sky. Those are not chemtrails.
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Correct. By the way, if you ever start your car in a cold winter morning for the first couple of minutes, you’ll see water dripping out of the tailpipe.
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Joe, it’s why most people don’t know this. Maybe you don’t even. You probably do, though. Most people don’t know this. It’s why every muffler has a drain hole in it.
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Correct, because the byproducts of combustion, when you burn a hydrocarbon, which is exactly that, it’s hydrogen and carbon. When you burn a hydrocarbon, if you have perfect combustion, the byproducts are Water vapor, which is H2O and CO2. Well, jet engines, by the way, are incredibly efficient. They get, you know, damn near close to… So when a jet engine burns jet fuel, which is basically highly refined kerosene, they’re spewing out the back end water vapor and CO2. And when the conditions are right, that water… In fact, if you didn’t see, you know, contrails, that would mean something’s wrong because when you’re pumping that much… And by the way, The temperature at 30,000 feet is typically 30 degrees below zero. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that hot vapor is making a trail.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s making a trail of water vapor. Right. Right. And that water vapor, you know, goes from, you know, hot steam, hot, clear steam. Just when you see a cooling tower, by the way, on a cool morning.
SPEAKER 06 :
I was going to say, you know, power plants, cooling towers, whatever, same situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. So it comes out of that as the back engine of the jet is clear steam. And then when the conditions are right and there’s not a lot of wind, that clear steam will condense into basically a fog, if you will.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so Joe, since you’re an airplane guy, for all the folks out there that think chemtrails are a real thing, if it were even possible, which I don’t believe it is, but let’s just say that you could fill an entire, like a C-130 that they fill other planes up with, I mean, what’s the max carrying capacity of chemical they could even have on an airplane at any given time if that is something they wanted to go do?
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re saying without mixing it with fuel?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, if they just wanted to dump it out of the back of the airplane somehow. They’re not mixing it with fuel like a lot of people think they are, and they just wanted to drop chemicals over a particular population, and they were just going to dump it raw out of a tanker, for example, which, by the way, you’d see different airplanes flying around if that were the case. But let’s just say they were going to do that, Joe. A, how much could they even carry? 10,000 pounds, John. Okay, and what would 10,000 pounds over an entire population of an area like Denver even do?
SPEAKER 08 :
John, it would be so light of a mist you wouldn’t even notice it, John. You wouldn’t even notice it.
SPEAKER 06 :
So then the question would become, Joe, to saturate an entire area like Denver, how many of those planes would you need flying and how often and how many times per day?
SPEAKER 08 :
You would need hundreds flying by every hour, John. Hundreds every hour.
SPEAKER 06 :
And we don’t see that, do we, Joe?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, we don’t see it. But when you look up at these commercial jets, John, it is just water vapor. And again— In a commercial jet, the only way to do it would be to pre-mix it with the fuel. And again, if you’re going to pre-mix it with the fuel, nothing is going to survive that 1,800-degree Fahrenheit temperature.
SPEAKER 06 :
And really quick, Joe, again, because of the story I read earlier today about death fluid getting mixed in with the jet fuel and the damage that caused and the fact that it brought a Learjet down, reality is that fuel has to be extremely monitored and has to be exterminated. extremely high quality and, and, and, because otherwise you could have problems flying, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. In fact, and if you don’t have a fuel heater, like I was flying a turboprop for many years, John, and I actually had a temperature limit of minus 30 degrees C because I didn’t have a fuel, that aircraft didn’t have a fuel heater. And in the wintertime at 25,000 feet, it would get down to minus 40 C at altitude. And I would actually have to Now, there is some bypass of warm fuel back, but there were a couple of occasions when I had to request a descent from ATC to get into some warmer air. By warmer air, I mean going from minus 40 C to minus 25 C. Right, because the fuel can get thick and have a problem. Right. It can start to gel and crystallize.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
There is a special additive in the fuel called Pris that keeps the water entrained, you know, But even with that, the fuel can thicken and it can start to gel, and you don’t want gel fuel trying to go through the filters because it’ll plug the filters.
SPEAKER 06 :
So bottom line, folks, there is no such thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
No such thing as a chemtrail. But, John, there is such a thing as flat earth, and I think I proved it to you. Oh, yeah. No, John, I went out my driveway there, and I put a basketball in my driveway, and, John, I watched it for five minutes. It didn’t roll in either direction.
SPEAKER 06 :
It never moved. It never moved.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, John, the earth is flat. My basketball didn’t roll.
SPEAKER 06 :
Joe, as always, I appreciate you, man. Thanks for all of your wisdom. I appreciate that greatly. Robert in Denver, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, John, I wanted to comment on that assault you were referring to in Cincinnati. I saw it yesterday. I’m a news junkie. I read a lot of news from all different sites, but I saw it yesterday on a World Net Daily, which is kind of right-leaning. I wish I would have saved the initial video because it’s a lot worse than anything that’s out there now. It’s been edited multiple times where multiple news agencies will blur the photo. They blur it so you can’t see who’s been assaulted or the victim, the colors. And it’s incredible how much cover up there. I’ve noticed this for many years because I’ve been watching I’m a news junkie. I’ve been following this for many years, but it’s not just one guy being beat up.
SPEAKER 06 :
As I watch more and more of that video, Robert, and again, I saw it this morning, you’re right. As I was saying earlier, the one main guy is the main older white guy, but there’s other individuals, ladies even, that are getting punched in the face.
SPEAKER 09 :
I saw at one time there was three men on the ground. There was one close to the curb, the one that you focus on. Then in the middle of the street, there was another guy that was down. I didn’t see him hit, but somebody else knocked him down. And then behind him, there was another one that they were actively stomping on and hitting for a while, but It was, you know, they’re literally not punching them and kicking them while they’re on the ground, kicking them in the head, stomping on them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, yep. They’re like body slamming. At one point, they’re like, you know, WWE wrestlers are body slamming them, Robert.
SPEAKER 09 :
And near the end of it, you have a white woman that kind of gets in the face.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And a woman rushes up behind her and hits her, and then a man hits her in the face, knocks her out. She hits the ground. The video I saw yesterday, they didn’t mask her face. You saw everything. Yep. including her lying on the ground knocked out and blood running out of the side of her mouth.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s unbelievable. It really is. It’s hard to watch, actually.
SPEAKER 09 :
What’s as incredible as the video of them being beaten is the cover-up that takes place in the media. Yep. That’s what I saw earlier, Robert.
SPEAKER 06 :
These are the same people that will tell you they care about the little guy. They don’t.
SPEAKER 09 :
I scanned CNN’s news site, the CNN breaking news yesterday a couple times, the whole site from top to bottom. No mention. I looked today. No mention. I looked on other websites. Like I said, it’s either not mentioned at all or it’s covered up. It’s heavily covered up, so you can’t tell what happened.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Even my go-to site, which is out of the UK, it’s called Daily Mail. They usually report on things like this, but for some reason, when they did report on it, they called it like a street brawl. Yeah, it was far more than that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Far more than that, as you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s unbelievable that the cover-up that’s been going on for many years is as bad or worse than the assault.
SPEAKER 06 :
I agree, Robert. I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s mind-blowing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, great comment. Thank you for the phone call, Robert. I appreciate that very much, and you are spot on. John and Cheyenne, you’re next.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, Joe was a little off on his numbers. Back in 1985, I got sent to one of those beautiful places that the Army has called Johnston Atoll. which is 800 miles southwest of Hawaii. Okay. That is really in the middle of nowhere, John. Yeah, it is. That was where the Army was storing most of their chemical warfare weapons. And when I was there, I was a guard, MP, which we guarded them. But they were building the chemical destruction plant, and it took them like almost a year. And they were going to burn, it was mostly VX, And they were going to burn it at like 3,500 degrees to destroy it. And they built this huge plant. But what was interesting is watching the ordinance guys in full chemical suits. And now you know how hot and humid it could be down around Hawaii on some days.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. They’d be in full chemical suits separating the propellant from the nerve agent. Wow. And that’s what they would do all day. Wow. They have no stress in that job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, none. And to your point, John, what you’re really saying, too, and it goes along with what Joe was saying, I mean, if that was being injected or put into regular commercial aircraft today, you would see a whole lot of different operations rolling around the airport than what you see. The reality is it ain’t happening.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, well, all you have to do, remember the movie The Rock? Yes. The chemical agent is the same thing that we had stored was VX. And remember what Nicholas Cage said at the beginning was absolutely correct. One drop would kill 20 people in a square, you know, in an area. Right. That’s how bad that stuff was. I mean, we were told pretty much if something happens, no matter how fast you can run, you’re not going to outrun it. You’re probably going to be dead. Gotcha. Because while those guys were wearing chemical suits, Us guarding the outside of the perimeter had on fatigues.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 19 :
That makes a lot of sense. If you want to look up something cool, though, so in 91, remember Hurricane Iniki?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
It completely destroyed the island. Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, as you know, it hit Hawaii as well. So, yeah, I’m not surprised.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when we first, I think like one of the first couple of times we went to Kauai. It was before they rebuilt everything around Poipu.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and it was all wiped out.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep, most of it was all wiped out. Now you go down there, you can’t even tell.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s one of the nicer spots on Kauai, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. No, right. That’s good to know. That’s good to know, John. I appreciate the info. I mean, bottom line, I’ve interviewed so many different people over the years, people that are pilots that fly and so on and so forth. And again, even when Dan was here, I mean, we used to make fun of this sort of stuff. I’m trying to be nice. I’m trying to not make fun. I’m trying to not, you know. minimize what somebody’s feelings are and their conspiracies and so on. But that one of all conspiracies, between that and the flat earth, John, it’s like if you’d believe in either one of those things, you’re just a wackadoodle.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, my other favorite one is the people who scream in the winter when they see stuff coming out of the stacks at the power plants and they think that we’re polluting the air and all it is is condensation and steam. Yeah, that’s all it is, but they go crazy. Last thing, John, if you get a chance, Google Johnston Atoll, and it’s pretty funny. Some of the pictures there now are like what happened to that island in Shane.
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All right, this article, I don’t know where I saw this. I happened to stumble across this one. It’s in Summit Daily, Summit County, which is Breckenridge, Silverthorne, all of that. So just west of us here, first major city going west on I-70. For those of you that are new to our area, Summit County is that whole area up there. And this was the headline in Summit Daily. Some Silverthorne officials suggest a change in attitudes towards tourism as the town tells departments to cut budgets. And this whole article is basically about the fact that they’ve had some businesses that have left the area. Their tax revenues are now going to be down. They’re trying to figure out how to still, quote-unquote, make ends meet, given the fact that some businesses are leaving, including the Ford dealer that’s been up there for a long time. There’s a big outlet mall, which, by the way, used to be a big deal to drive up to. In fact, you could go up, you could spend the day, you could spend some time around there, go to the outlet malls. It was a big deal back when they opened. Well, they’ve had some merchants leave. They’re trying to figure out how to replace that. And I’m just thinking to myself, yeah, I can see that. As somebody that goes up to that area, not frequently, but I go up there enough that, you know, you can kind of get a feel and a vibe for people. And by the way, I’ve been going up to that area because when I was a kid, even we would hunt and fish. In fact, we used to cut wood up not far from Silverthorne back when the Forest Service used to mark the beetle kill trees for you. You could go up and harvest your own trees. And that’s how we heated our home back in the day. And anyways, long story short, spent a lot of time up in that area, probably as much time in that area. As any other mountain areas up and down our mountains, just because of, I guess, just the familiarity is where our family went and so on. And it’s interesting now to have the officials, town officials. Here’s a quote. I think for years, Summit County has been of the opinion that we don’t have to be nice to people. This is a quote, by the way, from city officials. This isn’t me saying this. This is them internally talking about their own town and they’re the officials of the town. I think for years, Summit County has been of the opinion that we don’t have to be nice to people. I’m not saying that they’ve been maliciously mean to people, but I don’t think that Summit County in general, and I don’t think Silverthorne is as a part of this, has rolled out the red carpet to tourists who come in here, Mr. Applegate says. Summit County has to look at itself in the mirror and say, maybe we need to change the way we treat people that come in and try to be a little bit more receptive to having them here, he said. Spagnolia agreed, noting how cost of living fueling higher expenses in Summit County could hurt tourism as well. Again, I’ll just tell you straight up. Most mountain towns, there are a few exceptions in Colorado, but most mountain towns, I’ll just be straight up honest, aren’t super friendly to tourists. Some are. Some businesses will be. But by and large, the communities themselves kind of have this attitude of, what are you here for? I live here. You don’t leave. Some of you that are out there, I’m sure you could agree with me. I’m sure you’ll text me on this same topic because I know you would agree because as a Colorado native, I’ve experienced that for generations now. It didn’t just happen to come along. It’s been that way for a very long time. Well, now what’s happening is their revenues aren’t what they used to be. So now they’re like, hmm, maybe we should change our ways. Maybe we should look at things a little bit differently. Yeah, you think? Really? You think? Yeah. I mean, the way they’ve handled everything from homeowner vacation rentals and so on, yeah, you guys are running people off. You’re not encouraging people to come into town. You’re discouraging people to come to town. And the one thing that Silverthorne doesn’t have in its favor is it’s not right next to the ski slope. You’re either driving in from Loveland back down into Silverthorne and then going back up to the ski resort, or you’re driving over to Keystone, or you’re driving up to Breckenridge, or you’re going over to Copper Mountain, or you’re driving all the way over to Vail and Beaver Creek. You get my drift. They’re not a ski town. They’re a town that’s close to a lot of ski areas, and you could stay in town and still drive someplace to ski there. but they’re not right on the slopes, meaning they need to do a better job of marketing themselves and having people stay there, even those folks that are traveling through and so on. In other words, it doesn’t just need to be the place you stop and get gas and keep moving, which for a lot of people, I think that’s what they do. It needs to become more of a community and welcoming to the tourists and folks that might come in, and even the folks that even come in from the other side of the slope, in other words, those that are coming in from the east slope, They should be more welcoming to those people. And I’ll just tell you straight up, they’re not. They’re admitting it that they’re not. Like they say, we’ve never really been malicious to people, but we haven’t given them our open arms as well. Well, here’s the plus side, Summit County. At least you’re recognizing something that’s been that way for decades. And I mean that sincerely. You guys have been that way for decades. This didn’t just happen in the last five years or the last decade even. You guys have been this way since I was a kid. So 50 years plus you’ve been acting this way. In turn, Summit County, those are hard habits to break. You guys are going to have to, in the town itself, you’re going to have to run some big campaigns just internally with your own people that live there to get them to understand that, yeah, we need tourists. We need them for the backbone of what we’re doing here because without them, we may not survive. And by the way, you’re not the only mountain town that way. It’s sort of like John talked about Hawaii earlier. This is something that Hawaii struggles with with their identity crisis constantly. There are those hardcore Hawaiian natives that wish they had the islands back to themselves and wouldn’t care if another tourist ever showed up. What they forget is it’s all that tourism that actually pay all the bills there. And our money, by the way, that we send them as taxpayers. Without that, they’d be a third world country. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that. Native Hawaiians won’t recognize what I just said. They’ll tell you it’s because of us that things are as bad in Hawaii as they are. No, it’s because of us that they even have an island. Literally. They wouldn’t have it without the United States of America. So a lot of these mountain towns, they are no different than Hawaii. They have this love-hate relationship with tourists. By the way, my town of Golden, we have a similar situation. You know, it’s become very much a tourist town, you know, tourist trap, if you would, this time of year. So much so that on a Friday night or Saturday night, my wife and I typically won’t go to downtown Golden. We’ll go all winter long. We typically don’t go in the summer. Tons of people, tons of tourists. And it’s not that we hate them. It’s not that we dislike them. I just don’t want the crowds and everything else. I’ve got other places I can go. And that’s fine. Somebody else can do all of that. And I will say this, along the Front Range here, most of our Front Range area, they understand the tourist end of things and they welcome them and they will cater to them. The mountain towns, unfortunately, most of them do not. And if they’re not careful, they’re going to find themselves in the same situation that Silverthorne’s in right now. I’m excited and happy that Silverthorne has recognized this and is willing to make changes because, frankly, it’s long, in my opinion, long overdue. Veteran Windows and Doors up next. Energy Star ratings may be changing in the beginning of 2026. 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