In this episode, John Rush delves into the intricacies of party endorsements and election outcomes. Through a detailed analysis of recent political events, John unravels the narratives presented by political parties, providing listeners with a deeper understanding of how these endorsements shape election results. Drawing on firsthand reports and direct examination of financial documents, this episode offers a compelling narrative on the often unseen aspects of political campaigning.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Hour number three, myself, Andy Pate, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush. And as I said earlier, this is going to be my rebuttal. And by the way, I texted all of this. So a week ago on Tuesday, Andy and Eli were talking, and I was getting text messages, which I get a lot of them anyways, and that’s fine. I will always take them. Sometimes I’ll forward those on to Andy, sometimes not. It just depends on what’s going on and whether it’s justifiable. In this particular case, even though this particular person openly on air, Andy and Eli had asked people to call in and have a conversation, decided to text me instead. So it starts this way. Here, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
You notice they’ve already lied. I know. Lost the primary. They left a word out. Contested. But go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Here are the facts. There were, in fact, 106 endorsements in 103 races. Three races had more than one candidate endorsed. Of those 106 endorsements, 89 of them emerged victorious in the primary. This is an 84% success. But as always, I will tell you, don’t take my word for it. Check for yourselves. By the way, I did. So that the coup crowd tries to spew more lies, you can say, nope, I looked at the facts myself. myself so here you go these are the actual endorsement or this is the actual endorsement email that was sent out now keep by the way i want to make sure that you guys all heard what i just said a moment ago but as always i will tell you don’t take my word for it check for yourselves you got to remember that part of this whole text message string okay okay keyword john go check for yourself so i did Now, this took me a couple of days on vacation because, no offense, I’m on vacation. I’m not just going to sit there and go look up things along these lines. But there’s times where, you know. Downtimes. Yeah, there’s always downtimes where, you know, my wife isn’t quite ready yet and I’ve got a few minutes to float around on the Internet and look a few things up. So I did. So this is not hard to look up, by the way. There is a website called Ballopedia.com. which tells you everything that happens on each individual ballot, coast to coast. You can go just type in somebody’s name. And if there’s more than one name, they’ll even give you the choice of, okay, was this a person in Connecticut or Colorado? Right. And you can go look up exactly what happened in individual races and so on. So let me get started. I won’t go through every one of these, but I want to highlight a few of these because… We’ll make sure I explain this. So I’m going to respond. So the first two, and I know you can’t see my notes, but the first two lines. So in this case, for example, Congressional District 1 is on one line. And then the second line in this case is Vladimir Archuleta, who in parentheses says winner, won. So in other words, one, two, three, those are the amount of winners. Now, underneath this, as I texted back, I put in, in this case, ran unopposed and then lost to Diana DeGette by a large margin, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that was my answer.
SPEAKER 06 :
By the way, Voldemort was a really good candidate. It’s just District 1.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I’m going to go through these.
SPEAKER 06 :
But he was unopposed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Unopposed. I’m going to go through some of these so you can see some of my answers and you’ll get the gist of what’s going on here. Okay, so Congressional District 2, Marshall Dawson. Again, this is winner number two. I put ran opposed and then lost to Nagoose.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ran unopposed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, ran unopposed, and then lost to Neguse. Or am I saying that right? I don’t know. I can’t stand that guy, by the way. But that’s another one that’s tough to win.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you’re right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, these last two, nothing against either one of those individuals, but you have to have, and this is a great example. In those particular, District 1, District 2, you had better have the right candidate that can reach out and get those unaffiliated voters to vote for you or you’re losing. Period. Because it is heavily blue, right, Andy? Right. You’re not winning any other way than to do that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and by the way, the candidates were fine. It’s just so blue. But go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
But that’s the whole point. Right. Okay. Congressional District 3, Ron Hanks. Second place, by the way, is in parentheses here. I put in, lost to Heard, who went on to win, Hanks would have easily lost.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, that’s my wording and my comment back.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I will add, the Democrat knew that and actually campaigned for Hanks in the primary. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
District number four, of course, that’s Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, again, calling this winner three. I said one, and this one doesn’t count. That was my answer. Because it doesn’t. Because she was going to win no matter what. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Name recognition.
SPEAKER 08 :
That one is, I don’t care whether you endorsed it or didn’t endorse it, it doesn’t make any difference. That one literally does not count.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they endorsed her. She was pulling way ahead of the field. But, okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, CD5. This, of course, was Dave Williams in parentheses, second place. And I said, lost to Crank, who went on to win, and Dave would have easily lost also.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Another one where you wouldn’t have won if your person had. Congressional District 6, John Fabricatori ran unopposed and then lost to Jason Crow.
SPEAKER 06 :
And John was a good candidate, but it didn’t matter.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct, because you’re running against Jason Crowe in that district. By the way, Jason Crowe is a creep.
SPEAKER 06 :
He is, but it’s a deep blue district.
SPEAKER 08 :
Congressional District 7. Sergei… Sergei. Sergei, I can’t say his last name. Matvikov? I can’t pronounce it.
SPEAKER 06 :
I need it in front of me. I can’t pronounce it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Ran unopposed, then lost to Peterson. That’s over in my district, by the way, in Jefferson County. Congressional District 7, this is Janik Joshi. Of course, we already talked about that one in the last hour, lost to Evans. Joshi would have easily lost this election in a big way, I put down as my response.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, really quick here. Had their endorsed candidates won in the contested races, we would now have three fewer House seats.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, part of my text response was that before I even sent this response that we’re now… Going through. Let’s get into the State Board of Education. So District 3, Sherry Wright, yep, won, but ran unopposed. State Board of Education District 4, Sondra Larson, lost to KBB, who, by the way, won by 7,000 votes. State Board of Education District 8, that’s Yasmin Navarro, ran unopposed. CU Regent-at-Large, Eric Reinard, ran unopposed. CU District No. 3, or Regent District No. 3, Ray Scott, ran unopposed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, do you see a pattern here, John?
SPEAKER 08 :
CU Regent District 5, Ken Montero, ran unopposed. Senate No. 2, Tim Lerner. Arvidson lost the primary by a 2-1 margin. So he was second place and lost by a 2-1 margin. But keep in mind, this is an endorsed candidate by the GOP, Colorado GOP. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So in that one, he actually had an opponent in the primary.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct, and still lost 2-1. Right. Senate 5, Mark Catlin ran unopposed. Senate No. 6, Clive Simpson ran unopposed. It keeps going this way. Senate No. 10, Rex Tompkins, 17% of votes is all he got was third place. Senate 12, Adriana Cuva lost by 20% second place. Didn’t even win the primary. Senate 13, Scott Bright ran unopposed. He was a winner. Senate 14, Phoebe McWilliams ran unopposed and then lost by 30% in the actual election. Senate 16, Robin Carnes. We interviewed Robin, by the way. And really quick, I like her. Yeah. And I also added some notes here, too, because I was also told that the state party helped all candidates throughout the whole election cycle. And I will tell you that I interviewed and talked to some specific candidates where that was not the case at all. In fact, we had some candidates up north. that basically said, hey, you’re spending money on all sorts of things but us. Why? And by the way, we had some races, and I’ll get into some of these, whereby with a little bit of monetary support from the state party, might have had a different outcome. Right. Just a little bit of monetary support might have had a different outcome. This is one of those, by the way. Robin Carnes, winner, 15, is what this says. And I said, ran unopposed and then lost by only 5% and was one of the candidates that told me she received no financial support from the Colorado GOP.
SPEAKER 06 :
But the Colorado GOP could spend $100,000 in lawsuits trying to delay a vote.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s more like 150 now, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but I mean, I’m going before the election. Well, okay. Okay. Whatever. They spent a ton of money. It should have gone to candidates.
SPEAKER 08 :
And still are.
SPEAKER 06 :
All to save Dave’s butt.
SPEAKER 08 :
And still are. Yeah. And by the way, right now, I’m still trying to figure out what are we spending money on attorneys for? In the Colorado GOP right now, and I mentioned yesterday that Randy Corbin, who you guys know very well because he used to be a talk show host here on KLZ, and I don’t have anything personal against Randy, but I have to question, and I would ask this to Randy himself. Randy, what are you doing for the GOP, Colorado GOP, that requires $20,000?
SPEAKER 06 :
I would assume he is helping in the lawsuits going against their enemies.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that’s packed on top of the other 100,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
People like Eli, like Todd Watkins.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the 100,000 plus we’ve already spent, we just tack on another 20K to him.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. I don’t know that. I’m just assuming he’s a lawyer, they’re paying him, and I know they’re suing a bunch of these people.
SPEAKER 08 :
But what I said yesterday still applies, folks. Randy’s also very involved in the party. He’s been a national delegate. He’s done some things along those lines. It doesn’t look good. Period. This does not look good.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’re spending all this money on these lawsuits.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. What we’re going through is my rebuttal to a text message that came in a week ago when Andy and Eli were talking, and I’m pretty much blowing that whole narrative up. Keep in mind, what this particular texter did was simply copied and pasted to me. what the state party puts out as their propaganda. It’s a talking point from the state party. It’s their talking points, correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
And their talking point, once again, is… We won by this much. Yeah, our endorsements won in the primaries by about 84%.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. So let me continue on. Senate 17, Tom Van Loon ran unopposed and lost by 30%. 19, Sam Bandemere ran unopposed and lost by 15%. This one’s interesting. Frederick Allfred Jr. in Senate 21 ran unopposed and lost by a very, very small margin. And again, had no financial support from the Colorado GOP. And by the way, if you don’t believe me when I say there was no financial support, just go look at the FEC report. That is the Federal Elections Committee report. So every… candidate, anything to do with politics whatsoever, state parties, all have to report everything they’ve done. Revenue coming in, who it came in from, the dollar amount, and then what you spent it on. And it’s done on a monthly basis. So, interestingly enough, Sunday, I was texting Andy, because I’d gotten back from vacation, you know, Friday night, and so Sunday morning, I’m up early and I’m kind of dinking around, and I thought, you know, I’m just going to go take a peek at the FEC report, because I knew we were going to talk about some of this stuff today, so I’m like, I’ll just go check some things out. And that’s where I see the payment to the Randy Corpins of $20,000. And I look at some of the other lawyers that we have paid. And then I go and look at, okay, what candidates… have we actually supported as the Colorado GOP is concerned. And I mentioned, I can’t remember his name. Janik Joshi. Joshi. So I noticed that we had supported his campaign. Keep in mind, he didn’t win the primary, but we still financially supported him.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, in other words, Gabe Evans, who became our candidate, first had to spend his money and time running against his own state party.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s helping financially his opponents.
SPEAKER 06 :
Before he could ever run against the Democrat.
SPEAKER 08 :
Folks, this is all on the report. Some of you listening might think that I’m lying. I’m not. No, you’re not. I’m not. Go look at the FEC report yourself. It’s really easy to look at. I know for a lot of people that don’t read financials, it could be a little bit confusing, but they actually make it pretty simple. You pull the report up. You can look at income, receipts coming in, revenue coming in, basically, and expenditures, meaning expenses. And literally, you can click on the lines. Anything that’s got a link to it has an underline under it. You can actually click on that, and it will tell you, even by particular disbursements, what each one is. And they’ve even categorized them. So if you’ve made, as a party, political donations to somebody else’s race, that’s all in its own category.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and John, by the way, not only were they giving money to someone like Joshi, who’s running against Gabe Evans, who is now in the U.S. House. Remember, they also put paid for by the Colorado Republican Committee on mailers and newspapers, thousands, thousands and thousands of them that they sent out that attacked Republican candidates.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s right. So I’ll keep going. Senate 23, Natalie Absheer, or yeah, I think I’m saying that right, Absheer, lost to Barb Kirkmeyer by 44 percent. Bob Lane ran unopposed in 26 and then lost by a wide margin after that. Let’s go to Senate seat, sorry, Senate 29, Robert Tate. He was disqualified from the Republican primary, but yet they claim he’s a win. I find that one really interesting, by the way. On their list, he’s listed as a winner, and yet he was disqualified from the primary anyways. I don’t know why, but he was disqualified. But yet he’s claimed as a winner by the state party. Whatever. I can keep going, folks. Next one, ran unopposed and lost by 60%. Ran unopposed, lost by a wide margin. Ran unopposed, lost by another wide margin. Ran unopposed, lost by another wide margin.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, what matters is the first two words. Ran unopposed. Correct. Okay. The vast majority of their endorsements, they call them endorsements, these are in primaries, are Republicans who ran unopposed, and they’re calling those wins.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, in the end, so when I sent all this back, keep in mind, I went through and did all this research. It took me a day. I didn’t text this texter back for at least a day, maybe even two. It might have been two days. I’d have to go back and look at the actual messages, but it might have been two days. So it took me a little bit of time to, as you can tell from all of that, that’s just 36, and there’s like… A hundred and some of these. So I didn’t go through all of them, Andy, but I can already tell you the trajectory and what’s going on. It wouldn’t change. Right. It’s going to be the same all the way through.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because we’re telling the truth. Correct. The 14 out of 18, as we’ve said a million and a million and one times, is contested races. They endorsed 18 candidates in contested primaries. 14 of them lost, most of them very badly.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I’m going to go back to the beginning of this message. where it said, but as always, I will tell you, don’t take my word for it. Check for yourself. So I did. Yeah. So then I reply via text message on the text line, all of the things that we just mentioned. And then I get this back. So apparently a win doesn’t count anymore. Typical. You always have a comeback ready. Why not just say thank you for flipping seats and maintaining seats? It’s pathetic. Wait a minute. It’s pathetic. You’re now just trolling. Which is exactly why you keep texting me. Hey, time out. You started this. You told me go do the research. I send you back the research. Now I’m trolling and I’m continually texting you. No, I only responded to what you sent me, Dodo Head.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and first of all, no, a win against no opponent is not a win. They won in a primary. They haven’t won the general election.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know, that’s not a win, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
And here they said, we won more seats. Okay, may I? Go ahead. Okay, this is what I said on last Tuesday, or was it the Tuesday before, I forget. But this is what I said at the time. Guys, we picked up, I think it was only three seats. Now, let’s put that in context. Once again, notice the context they threw out. They threw out the fact that virtually all the ones who won for their endorsements were running unopposed in primaries. Who cares if they endorse in an unopposed primary where the Republican is literally running against no one in their primary? No, a win is not a win then. When you play chess against nobody, you’d better win. Okay, next. Guys, we only picked up three seats. In a year when Kamala Harris failed to flip a single district in the entire nation, and you only picked up three seats in Colorado, are you kidding? And you could say, well, it’s because it’s a blue state. I’ll get to that in a moment. The red wave. Donald Trump increased his margin against the Democrat nationally by 6.2%. Nationally. In Colorado, only 2.5%. one of the very worst in the entire country. That means we lost almost 60% of the national red wave under Trump. Okay, that red wave is carrying, it lifts all ships, but ours sunk way into the waves. Next, Republican registration. They say, hey, we got a bump in registration. You’ve already said a lot of that evaporated, didn’t it, in the couple months after the election. But even setting that aside, folks, it just came out last month. National registration for Republicans. We were six points behind the Democrats at the end of 2021. Right. OK, we are now two points ahead. So we have surged eight points against the Democrats here in Colorado. I don’t think it’s budged. It’s maybe like 0.5 of a point or so.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I actually went through that last month, Andy, in February. I went through that for the January listings on the card of Secretary of State. And after the election, we’ve already lost some registered Republicans that most likely registered during the national election and now have gone back to unaffiliated.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, in other words… Which is normal, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah, it’s very normal. But bottom line, we haven’t gained anything.
SPEAKER 08 :
But you can’t count those, by the way. You can’t count those as wins.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, bottom line is, nationally, we’ve advanced eight points against the Democrats in Colorado. We didn’t advance. Why? Because they’re doing a terrible job, John. It’s ridiculous. I’m putting out hard numbers. These are hard numbers, okay? And they’re bragging and they’re saying, we finally have turned the corner. We’ve picked up, like, three seats. It’s like, first of all… You only picked up three seats in one of the biggest red waves of a generation. Okay? Secondly, we picked up a House seat that you campaigned against. Your seat party literally gave money to Joshi, who was going against Gabe Evans. Gabe Evans is the House seat we added. Okay? And then the other two, you would have lost us those seats too if we’d gone your way. So the only thing that helped us in this last election, ironically, was the open primary because it prevented the state party’s candidates from going forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
I want to make sure, too, that I correct something because I just got a text message in that it was actually Eli and that group that started the lawsuits against the Colorado GOP. Folks, no, that is incorrect. The Colorado GOP filed for a TRO, a temporary restraining order, against the meeting that was trying to be held at that time. Correct. They started this, folks. I don’t know what you’re looking up and what information you’re gathering, but whatever you’re looking at, trust me, I was here during all that time. We were talking about those things on air on a daily basis at that time. And, yeah, no, that is whatever information you’re getting, that is incorrect.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. It was very simple. They filed a lawsuit to get a temporary restraining order. They got it. And then the next court threw it out so that both meetings were held. And both meetings were ruled legal. They were legal because they both had a quorum. But in the end, the vote that elected Eli was thrown out by a judge because they said, tell you what, we’re going to require that you get, I guess, what was it, 60%?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think that’s right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, you get 60% of the total membership, not just those who attend the meeting.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, which, by the way, was a change from what the Colorado Republican Party had been doing. But OK, whatever. I disagree with it. But that was the ruling. Nobody ruled that the meeting itself was illegal. And yet a lot of the sycophants of the state party are telling everybody it was an illegal coup.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. That’s right. That is false. Somebody also texted and wanted to know if we were going to go through all four candidates. And we kind of had. So just to make sure you guys, in case you missed something in the last hour, we went through fairly detailed Darcy because I did a bunch of research on that. Also went through Lori Sane. I’ll be quite honest. I haven’t done a lot of research on the other two candidates. I really don’t know them that well. I’ve talked about that. I’ll be really honest with you. I’m not going to do a lot of research on those two because I hate to say this, but they’re unelectable. Anyway, so, I mean, I could go do a bunch of research on both of them and do the same thing that I did for Darcy and Lori. But the reality is the crowd that’s going to be there voting, those two don’t have a snowball’s chance of winning anyways. I’m sorry to say.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I don’t believe they do either. And I’ll be one of the crowd there. We’re going to be outnumbered.
SPEAKER 08 :
They don’t have a snowball’s chance.
SPEAKER 06 :
I will say this about Bretta Horne and Kevin McCarney are both fine people. I would have no problem having either one of them be the state chair. Now, do I know how well they lead personally? No, I’ve never been under them, so I can’t speak to that. I only know them on Facebook. I know them. I’ve interacted with them, and they’re both delightful people. I’ll say that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they don’t support what Dave has done. Andy knows more than I because I don’t know either one of them on that level. I have not done a ton of research on either one of them. And again, frankly, folks, because my time is valuable. It’s only reason why I even went back on this rebuttal on this text message is because I was on vacation and I had extra time to do that. Quite frankly, if I hadn’t been. I wouldn’t have been through that list of what we just went through in the last half hour because, frankly, I don’t normally have that kind of time to do those things. So when it came to Darcy, I’ve done some research on Darcy, and Andy did Lori, but I’ve done some research on Darcy prior because I always, as I said during that last hour, in the first hour even, I always get, you know, I always put up red flags. I always have alerts in my own brain. When I see new people come in to the fold, And start doing things in the party. And it’s always, okay, where’d you come from? what’s the motive here? What’s going on? And I get it. People can move around and so on and so forth. And I understand that. But to me, it’s still a red flag as to, okay, you just showed up in Colorado and you’re doing X, Y, Z, Y. Right. Sorry. That’s the way my brain works, folks.
SPEAKER 06 :
My biggest concern is Lori Sane. And do I know her? I don’t know Lori Sane. You’ve interviewed her before here. Yeah, but I mean, I don’t know her. I’ve probably met her at some function somewhere. I don’t know. All I know is what I’ve heard, and what I’ve heard is, and if she wants to correct this, she’s free to do so. What I’ve heard is she is 100% down for the cause with Rhino Watch and everything Dave has done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. That’s all I need to know. Yeah, and what I do know, and this is me talking about Britta. What I know about Britta is the fact that Rhino Watch is totally against her. which, by the way, means I probably like her a little because anybody they’re against, I’m probably for. Now, again, I know Britta just a little bit from social media. I’ve never interviewed Britta. I don’t know Britta’s history. I just don’t know much about her outside of my personal interactions on Facebook. That’s it.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, these people, the Davidians, actually, they attack her for her personal appearance.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and that’s wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’ve met her.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, outside of that, I’ve never even met her personally, so Andy’s even one step ahead of me there. Outside of that, I just don’t know her, nor have I done the same research on her that I’ve done on the other two. I didn’t have to do a lot on Lori because I’ve interviewed her over the years. She was a politician here in Colorado for a long time, and I’ve known some of the things that she has done. And if you want to… go look some things up about Lori. She was one of the politicians that actually was in trouble for carrying a gun through security at TSA at the airport, and there was a big kerfuffle at that time when that happened. And again, I’m not blaming her for any of that. It’s just a forgetful moment that happened. But it doesn’t look good for us when those sorts of things happen. That’s my point. I mean, my feeling on that is I carry. I fly. I travel. You guys know that because you hear when I’m gone. By the way, when I travel, I’m flying. I don’t drive anywhere. And there’s a reason for that. When you’re self-employed and you do the things that I do, if you’re within driving distance of home, you can be back too fast. And you typically don’t your mind doesn’t even leave and do the things you would normally do when you something about me and my brain. When I get on that airplane, I go someplace else. I’m removed from everything that’s going on. And that’s a brain thing for me. So I fly. I do things. And what I’m going to tell you is. I always purposely look at what am I taking to the airport and is my gun in there? To me, it’s not that hard to make sure it’s not there. And I get it. People forget, make mistakes, and so on. But our side shouldn’t. That’s all I’m going to say. Our side shouldn’t do those things.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let me close with this. You said that this crowd, the Davidians, 80 IQ from what you’ve seen. Here’s what I want to ask. You read over and over, ran unopposed, ran unopposed, ran unopposed, ran unopposed. And this person says a win is a win.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it’s not.
SPEAKER 06 :
And 84%, what goes through your mind when you see somebody use anti-logic of that sort? I mean, they are supporters of Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it’s low IQ because that would be like saying that the Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl because the Philadelphia Eagles forfeited. Right. Okay, that’s the same analogy here.
SPEAKER 06 :
A win’s a win.
SPEAKER 08 :
A win’s a win. No, folks, it’s not. You never played the game. Right. So no, you didn’t play that game. You didn’t win. You won by default. And a default win, in my opinion, is not a win. Does that make sense? Yeah. That’s it. And that’s how I would explain it to anybody. If you’re going to consider winning unopposed a win, that’s like winning a football game or any game when the other team forfeits. Right. It’s not a win at that point, folks. Not a win. Not in my book. So we’ll be right back. Safe boxes. If you’re looking for a great safety deposit box, which, by the way, most banks are getting out of. This is better than a bank, by the way. Safeboxdeposits.com, 303-771-8000.
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SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John, I just got to ask you again. How gullible does someone have to be to call an unopposed race a win?
SPEAKER 08 :
These are what I would call, and you’ll relate to this, I’m going to use another sports analogy, they’re rabid fans. In other words, when you’re a Kansas City Chief fan, I’m going to pick on them for a moment, you’re a Kansas City Chief fan, and every interception Patrick Mahomes throws isn’t his fault. It’s the fault of the defender that got in the way and caught the ball. It’s not his fault. Not his fault he threw an interception, Andy. It’s the fault of that defender that got in the way of the receiver that caught the ball that made that happen. Not Mahomes’ fault. Well, that’s perfectly reasonable. They’re so rabid that no matter what, no one does anything wrong on the team ever. And oh, by the way, if the other team does forfeit, here’s the answer. If the other team does forfeit, it’s because they were so scared of us they couldn’t play us. So yeah, that’s still a win, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, really quick here before we go to Dave. Am I right?
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s how they view it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not only are you right, I spend hours debating these people, but they won’t debate. All I ask is, okay, here are some points. Answer my points. They throw out their talking points. I answer their talking points and kill their talking points. And then I say, okay, now back to my points. Answer my points. They leave.
SPEAKER 08 :
They’re not there any longer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dave from Thornton, go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, I know this has probably been brought up before on your show. But just knowing how the Democrats have operated in other races nationally and in other states, isn’t it possible that Dave is possibly a Democrat?
SPEAKER 08 :
A plant? I’ve talked about this before, actually. Yeah, I mean, Dave, I’ve said that on this program before to where you just have to wonder, although I will tell you that personally, no, I don’t think so. I just think Dave is a very… misguided soul like a lot of his followers are. They feel like being principled above all else is what it takes to win. And like Andy even gave as an example of Christ himself, Jesus Christ was as principled as anybody would ever get. He was God himself incarnate here on earth. If there’s anybody principled, it would be him. And yet his… His tactics or his strategy to win others to him is far different than what the Colorado GOP would do when it comes to winning elections.
SPEAKER 06 :
My only difference with that is I would say Dave is the most unprincipled person I’ve ever seen in Colorado GOP leadership. I don’t believe he believes in anything he’s saying. I believe his goal is power within the party.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you, Andy. And, Dave, I would agree with what Andy just said, and I’ve said that all along when I started calling for his resignation almost two years ago. The reality is Dave Williams is in it for Dave Williams only, and that’s it, period.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I was just wondering about that, because they’ve been known to, like, support –
SPEAKER 08 :
weaker candidate to help them win and well and and dave let me let me use another church analogy with dave williams because i don’t think dave is a democrat i won’t go that far but i do think he’s one of the democrats best tools much like use another church analogy Much like those quote-unquote Bible-thumping Christians that run around beating people over the head with Scripture, thinking some way, somehow they’re going to win them over, when in fact, Dave, all they do is turn more people away than they win over. They’re one of Satan’s best tools. Even though they, in their mind, in their heart, believe they’re doing something that’s right, at the end of the day, they’re not, and they’re hurting Christianity greatly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let me say this. I believe you’re absolutely right. Dave is an absolute tool of the left and of Democrats. And let’s remember, it was a Democrat judge that changed the ruling and allowed Dave to keep his job.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s right. That’s just what I’m getting at. The thing is that, you know. Regardless of his motivations, I mean, he doesn’t sound like he’s got a regular job. He doesn’t. I’m not sure where his money comes from.
SPEAKER 08 :
Family.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, $200,000.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, he’s earned it over the past two years with what he’s done with the GOP, but family business, Dave, which I believe he worked in for a while, and why he didn’t continue on, I don’t know. I can’t answer that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, again, that’s just my conspiratorial mind. It makes me suspicious of it, because the thing is that why not operate at that level? Because the thing is, if you’re truly strategic, if you’re truly a tactical political beast, you’re going to be looking at this and you’re going to say, hey, this is how we can win. There was a possibility for us to flip a couple other seats because of the way the economy is going here in the state. It would be possible, but yet for them to hew to doctrine… You know, even the most political beast is going to say, hey, you know what, what is my ultimate goal? My ultimate goal is to win. And if me human to doctrine 100% is causing us to lose, maybe I need to revisit that. And he’s not doing that. So that leads me to believe that, no, he’s a double agent, and he’s operating at their behest, and he’s being paid off, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can’t—again, I don’t know, Dave. I mean, let me just say this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Democrats love him in his position. We know that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, Dave, I would say this. In this point in time, nothing would shock me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly right. I’ll say it that way. I mean, under— I mean, look at the results there, Dave. I mean, under Dave’s leadership, we dramatically underperformed the biggest red wave of a generation. Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. You guys were pointing that whole thing out. That’s what I’m saying. It just seems too suspicious. This is pennies from heaven. Why wouldn’t you jump on the gravy train and turn this truly into a win instead of hewing to this, This is what we’re going to do, and when you’re operating against your own Republicans, like you often pointed out, you may not like that Republican, but if he’s got an R behind his name, I’m on the team.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m on the team, and hopefully he’ll come around.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 16 :
But he’s not doing that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nope. You’re right, Dave.
SPEAKER 16 :
In the age of George Soros’ district attorneys and judges and everything else, why not? Why wouldn’t it be possible for him to be on the take from the Democrats?
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. That’s a great closing, Dave. I’ll leave it at that. Thank you, by the way. I can’t answer that. Like I said earlier, nothing would surprise me. Even if he’s not on the payola, he is still the best tool the Democrats have in Colorado in defeating Republicans because our party right now is doing nothing to help folks win.
SPEAKER 06 :
He’s the greatest gift they’ve ever gotten.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’ve said that over and over and over again. And I’m sorry to say that, but that is actually the truth. And let me add this as well to a lot of what Dave was just saying a moment ago. And, again, I’m not speaking ill. I’m just giving you my observations, what I have seen as far as factual evidence and things along those lines go. Again, Dave is one of those that came to Colorado a lot like what I was talking about in the first hour with Darcy. Didn’t grow up here. Came here. got into politics, was a representative here in Colorado, now is chair. By the way, Dave’s not super old, so he’s done a lot of this in a pretty short time considering his age. And I’ve said this numerous times, and I’ll keep saying it, even though you hardcore supporters don’t believe me, Dave will sell you down the river if he can advance his own political career in doing so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, ask Darcy.
SPEAKER 08 :
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. About a minute and a half left as we get things wrapped up. Myself, Andy Pate. Andy, you want to add something? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I just want you to know I win every argument at home when my wife doesn’t show up. Ah, gotcha. Hey, a win’s a win. Okay, a win is a win, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
In some people’s eyes, yes, it is. Somebody also asked, are we going to race home to watch Trump tonight on TV? Yes, I absolutely will. I will not, you know, get in accidents or run over people or do anything along those lines. But, yes, I will do my best to get home in a timely fashion so that I can actually – I have to. I’m running the roundtable first thing in the morning for the recording, and that will be one of our topics. So I’ve got to go home and watch and take some notes. So homework.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it will be a lot of fun. I think you’ll do a good job. How aggressive do you think you’ll be here in the last few seconds? What do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think he’s going to set the record straight on a few things that the left keeps hammering on. Doge, for example, some of what happened with Zelensky and Ukraine. I think tariffs is going to be a big topic tonight. He’s going to try to dispel a lot of the globalist myths, by the way, that surround tariffs, because those guys think the sky is falling anytime you talk about them. And you have to remember that those are talking points from globalists. Right. Absolutely. And yes, I do think he’s going to try to dispel as much of that as possible tonight. whatever else he talks about, immigration, he’ll get into that as well. He’ll talk about the border, how tight it is, the fact that crossings are way, way, way, way low.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, he’s got to take a victory lap. Oh, yeah, he’s going to. I mean, come on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Definitely. Absolutely, he will. And he’ll take a victory lap on some of the Doge stuff and some of the nonsense that’s going on there, which he should. So, guys, we’ll talk about that, plus a lot more tomorrow. Don’t forget, health and wellness will start at 3 o’clock. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, signing off. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
