In this riveting episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush dives deep into the recent elections and the factors that led to an unexpected conservative victory. Featuring a compelling discussion with Jim Paff, the conversation explores how lawfare intended to dismantle Trump only galvanized his support. The duo unpacks how various demographics, including unions, rallied behind Trump and why this is a pivotal moment in American politics.
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, Jim Paff joining us now, conservative caucus. Jim, welcome. Hey, how you doing, sir? We are doing very well after the big win, of course. Can’t complain, can you? No, we’ll take it.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was an amazing win. Yeah, amazing win, and Trump did all the right things, and it frankly proved to everyone how foolish Democrats have been over the last few years. They pushed the envelope, and they paid the price at the ballot box.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jim, do you basically think they kind of created a monster? I mean, when you… you know, martyr a guy that many times over. Okay, you literally shoot at him a couple times. You bring every lawsuit against him. You treat him as easily, unfairly as possible in the public eye over and over and over again. Was it really a surprise that so many people rose up for the underdog?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, no, and what’s really interesting about that, too, is I think everyone knew that It was no surprise. I do think that Democrats at first thought that the lawfare would take him down. I think they had a sense that it would cause him to buckle. But the moment that it caused him not that when you saw that he was never going to buckle down on it, I think the American public knew at that point. that this was going to be helpful to him. And, of course, the polls for him started jumping up almost immediately. And by that time, in my mind at least, it’s a done deal. I felt it at the time, and it became more and more evident as things rolled on.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think a lot of us – how do I want to say this, Jim? We knew things were going in the right direction. We had a good sense of it. I will be the first to admit because I think we even talked just a few days before the election, if not the – no, not the day of, but I think we talked the day before. And the reality is I was still a little nervous. I didn’t know what they were going to throw at us, you know, what last minute, you know, cheat scheme they were going to have, those sorts of things. I just didn’t really know. So I really felt like he’d squeak by. And even Andy and I talked that day on that Tuesday. I just didn’t think it’d be the landslide that it is. But to your point and what you opened up with, and I did say this. They have pushed away, they, the left, have pushed away so many voters over the past decade even. It hasn’t been just the last four years. It’s been happening even before that. And finally, voters have had enough and said, you know what? I am tired of being ostracized. I’m tired of being demonized. I’m tired of being told I don’t matter. I’m tired as a man of being told that, you know, my opinions don’t even matter, that nobody really cares what I think anymore. And they came out in droves. By the way, black voters. white, Hispanic, Asian, you name it, they came out in droves and Donald Trump won by a landslide.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, no doubt. And by the way, on that night when we were talking, you’ll recall, and I feel pretty good about this, but I really wondered if there was some sort of cheat, steal, massage, kind of like what we’re seeing in the Pennsylvania Senate race and some California races. I didn’t know if that was going to happen here, but the one thing that I felt pretty consistently, accepting that I might have been wrong in my perception of what might happen last minute, as we discussed, is that it would be between 311 and 315 in the electoral vote. And I nailed it that way. And then a couple days later, someone shared a post I had put together back in July, just before Biden pulled out, where I felt at that time that 312 was the floor. So I guess I nailed it, but why would that be? The one thing that did stay consistent, even at times that I was wondering, man, am I shooting over my skis or not here, is that the union vote was critical, and union people voted for Donald Trump, all in those upper Midwest swing states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and really quick, I think, Jim, because they saw what the other side was actually not doing for them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Well, and you can’t underestimate, you know, a Teamsters union president speaking at the GOP convention like that’s a sign.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the other thing, too, this is kind of an inside car thing that most people don’t realize is the EV mandates and what the left has been pushing. The majority of workers inside of all of these car companies know that. Whether or not they tell you the EV is made in America or not, they may label it that way and they may assemble a few pieces here. But the reality is every EV, the majority of components are coming from China and other countries. So the reality is those workers know with an EV mandate, I’m eventually not going to have a job.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and Donald Trump convinced them as well when he could credibly say, in a manner that they knew that he was serious about, that there was no way he was going to allow China or any other country to go down to Mexico and build cars and bring them up here, except with a massive terror attack.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, by the way, I think that helped him with the union vote, to your point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Without a doubt. So union people also tend to be pro-electro family members. You know, all that was working together because he was credible. Sorry about the… No, you’re fine.
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead. No, I understand.
SPEAKER 07 :
Are they coming, Jim, are they coming to get you?
SPEAKER 15 :
To take you away. Ha ha. Hee hee. Ho ho. They are, actually. They’re getting closer.
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Drive faster, but keep talking.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Well, oh, dang. Well… You’re fine.
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Keep going. It’s all good. We can hear you. You’re fine. You’re good.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, good. So anyway, yeah, no, we’re… This was one of those elections… That was transformational. And part of the reason it’s going to be so transformational is everything was literally on the line. Like, I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that Kamala Harris had been elected president. The censorship industrial complex would go full bore. They would definitely go after Elon and X to shut down any… They would have pulled Twitter away from them.
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It wouldn’t exist anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amnesty.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
We would have been overrun. And by the way, the reason we know that is because you’ve got countries around the world that are mimicking what Democrats tried to do here, particularly down in Brazil, where I’m really close. I know a lot of the congressmen down in Brazil have been very involved in what’s going on down there. You’ve got a rogue judge… Mm-hmm. who has confiscated money from conservative journalists, shut them down. A couple of them who were really big are up here in the United States in exile. They’re close friends of mine. And this has been… the model that Democrats had laid out and the deep state years, if you want to call it that, have been laying out that other countries have been modeling. So that was really at stake and much more than that, obviously, too, which we could spend a long time talking about. But what has happened instead is that the guy who is the strongest against these things, who’s already giving great open signs that, that he’s going to take on the deep state and dismantle the way our government is right now. You know, that guy, Donald Trump, is going to radically transform what’s happening in the West, and I think he’s going to inspire a lot. of what’s happening around the world. I think a lot of good things are happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Jim, before we go on from South America, let’s go back there for a moment. What does it do for capitalism to suddenly have a foothold in South America called Argentina, where Javier Millay is turning around, or Millay, I’m not sure if it’s Millay or Millay, where he’s turning around an entire nation and he’s rocking and rolling. Now you’ve got the other countries around Argentina looking at that. Does it have an effect?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it does have an effect on the smaller ones. Brazil is a hard nut to crack at the moment. But again, their last election in 2022 was more rigged than anything we saw in 2020. They literally, you know, I don’t know if you know this, but they used Dominion machines. But that’s not the biggest thing. I don’t know what I think about the Dominion thing entirely. I have problems. but they aren’t the sort everyone thinks. But what they don’t do in Brazil, even though everyone is required, that’s eligible to vote, is required by law to vote in Brazil, those Dominion machines do not even spit out a record of how you voted, and there’s no paper trail of any kind. So I do believe absolutely that… Jair Bolsonaro, with whom I’m familiar, by the way, and I’m very honored to do that. That election was stolen from him. I guarantee you that it was. And Democrats wanted to be able to do… They haven’t been able to do as much of that as they want here, but they really wanted… want to go in that direction. And just evidenced by this argument we’ve had recently in Pennsylvania, they want to steal elections if they can, because they know that their ideas do not resonate. And Donald Trump proves that to be true.
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That’s right. Can’t argue that. No, you’re 100% correct on that one, Jim. And again, conservative caucus, really quick, let people know how they can get a hold of you and how they can follow you guys.
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Awesome. Jim, as always, I appreciate you, sir.
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John, always glad to do it. I’m glad I gave you a path to radio stardom.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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And welcome back to Rush Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush, I got a question for you. Yes. Okay, looking forward, I think a new problem exists for the Democrats, okay? And that is the word foothold. Here’s what I mean. In a number of demographics, a number of communities, the black community, the Hispanic community, the Democrats owned those communities entirely to where they were able to wall out any exterior voices. Those communities almost never heard a Republican. They almost never heard, certainly an intelligent Republican. Those were totally walled out.
SPEAKER 15 :
No messaging hardly at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. As a result of what Trump just did, we now have a foothold in each one of those communities. Those communities now, each one of them, they have a good number of people who support Donald Trump and support America First. They support MAGA. Now they can’t just completely ignore them. Now they hear from them. And here’s the thing. When you have those people around you and you see, wait a minute, they’re not weird. They’re normal. They may like that. Could this spell a real difficulty for the Democrats going forward?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Add to that. To your point, yes. Add to that. And I don’t know how to sugarcoat this. There’s no way. Add to that the Looney Tune women that are now on the side of the left that are shaving their heads, abstaining from sex, doing all these goofy, insane, weird things that they’re doing. I mean, if that’s your base. If that’s your intellectual base, because they claim all these people that vote a Democrat are high IQ. So if that’s your intellectual base that you’re working off of, Andy, you’re in big trouble. It’s a real turnoff. It’s a huge problem.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, so on the one hand, you suddenly have a new foothold in your community. I mean, look, the Hispanic community voted… What was it, like 44% for Trump?
SPEAKER 15 :
The men were higher than that even in a lot of cases.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the men were, but I’m talking overall, around 43%, 44%. John, that’s well over 40%. That means a lot of your community no longer, you can’t entirely wall out the right. No. When that much of your community and in the black community, it was about 15 percent voted for Trump, over 20 percent amongst men. And so this is a real problem. There is a foothold.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because now that amongst them, that one will grow, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
And here’s another big problem. MMA. OK, we talk. Well, yeah, we talk about the MMA crowd really likes Trump. Well, there are two big problems with this. Number one, the MMA crowd is very diverse and it’s and it’s growing. Yes, and number two, it’s very young. And so what you’ve got is a lot of young people who interact constantly. They’re all buddies. They’re friends. They go out for beers on the weekends. They know each other. They like the same fighters, and they have friends who are all in for Trump. That is now bleeding into all these communities. It’s almost like MMA is a funnel through which Trumpism is now going into communities it couldn’t reach before. What do you think, Bob?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think you’re 100% correct. And again, as I said earlier, you take the intellects, so you take the, and I’m not against any of these communities. It’s just, I’m just giving you my thoughts on who the core of their party is now. Okay? Right. This is nothing against any particular group of people, but you take educated, high-end gays. Okay? That’s on the left, typically. Not always, but typically that’s the case.
SPEAKER 07 :
Educated single women.
SPEAKER 15 :
Educated single women is another one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Highly educated women.
SPEAKER 15 :
Highly educated women. Okay, that’s a good way to say it. And by the way, folks, by highly educated, we don’t really mean educated. We mean degrees. Yeah, they’ve got a PhD or whatever, but at the end of the day, they’re still making $40,000 a year.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. My wife only has a high school degree. She was homeschooled. And let me tell you something. She can write circles around these people with degrees. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
So you’ve got those two groups. And then, as I said, leading up to the election, I think you’ve got a lot of split families right now. You’ve got that woman that we just talked about who might be married to a dude that loves MMA. that, by the way, might have even secretly voted for Donald Trump. Wouldn’t say that he did, but he probably did. So you’ve got this family division now going on that I’m not sure how the left overcomes some of those things. And then, of course, you’ve got the whole education. They’ve always got the education community in their pocket no matter what because those guys are so Marxist they can’t think straight.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And also another problem they have is that Trump improved by 2% with women.
SPEAKER 15 :
And really quick, the education thing has got a big factor with them because, as we’ve seen, charter school, private school, homeschooling since 2020 has really taken off since COVID, which is putting a dent even in their influence.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, take a look at this, John. Yeah. Upper educated personnel and basically rich white people love the Democrat Party. OK, they do because they don’t have to deal with any of the results of what the Democrat Party puts through. Correct. They’re insulated. OK, but notice what Trump is going to attack right away. The Department of Education. He’s going after colleges accreditation. You probably have already reported on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
We talked about this yesterday. If he was smart, I had a guest on.
SPEAKER 07 :
So he’s going right after the strength of their recruiting.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, if he was smart, he would get rid of the government-funded student loans, put that back into the private sector. That would cure a lot of what goes on in that world as well, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
He may transition into that. I think that’s not one that you do right up front because he’s going to try and take the low-hanging fruit first. Sure. Okay. But John, he’s going right at their number one recruiting tool right now is academia. Right. I mean, the voting proves it. No, you’re right. And what is he going after right away?
SPEAKER 15 :
Academia.
SPEAKER 07 :
Academia. He is looking to crush and take away a lot of their strength, and not just in terms of hurting where they recruit, but also taking money away. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Take the funding out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because what he’s saying is accreditation. If you guys are pushing a bunch of anti-American bigotry. Wokeism. And wokeism and so forth. Wokeism is simply bigotry. Yep. All it is is bigotry for the favored crowd.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Remember really quick, too, on the campaign trail, we had a particular vice president saying, you’re not woke enough, Andy. Be more woke.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, how stupid can you be? That was the absolute opposite of what the voting base wanted to hear.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was wonderful, though. I loved it.
SPEAKER 15 :
It was so helpful. But my point is, that’s how out of touch the left is. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
But look, academia has basically become nothing but money funneling to the DNC. True. Okay, that’s all it is, right? Academia, it takes in tax dollars from people of all beliefs to push one side.
SPEAKER 15 :
To push one belief, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And to push money to one party and to indoctrinate people into voting for one party, okay? It is one huge operation for the Democrat Party. That’s all academia has become. And he’s going right after I. I think it’s brilliant. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
And he’s got a lot more that he’ll continue to tell. Somebody texted in a moment ago, what’s MMA? It’s like boxing, only you get to use your feet as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mixed martial arts.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it’s a mixture of boxing, sort of some wrestling even at times. They can use feet. The gloves aren’t as big, so there’s a lot more blood and different things that happen in the fight than what you would normally see. It’s brutal. You know what it is? It’s Fight Club. Yeah, I don’t watch it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. First rule, Fight Club. I can’t watch it. Don’t talk about Fight Club.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I know Trump and a lot of guys love it. It’s not because I’m not a manly man. I don’t do blood.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I actually like fights, but I’m old-fashioned. I like boxing.
SPEAKER 15 :
I still like boxing better as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so I grew up on Ollie, Norton, Foreman, and these guys, and it’s all, they’re incredible. And I grew up on that, and to me, that’s the real fighting. But I’ll tell you what, MMA is incredibly popular.
SPEAKER 15 :
Huge.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, Dana White? That thing just continues to grow and grow and grow. It will be, in the not-too-distant future, this is my prediction. See what you think. Next to NFL, it will become one of the, probably the second-largest sport out there when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Probably.
SPEAKER 15 :
Mark my words on that one. Well, it’s trending. That’s the direction it’s headed. It’ll overtake hockey, basketball. Well, baseball doesn’t take much to overcome that because it keeps waning every year. So it’ll overtake basketball and hockey, which during the break, I can even look up the numbers. I’m not so sure, Andy, that it’s not far from that right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and a lot of people think, well, it’s just for young guys. Let me tell you, there are a lot of young women who are enjoying MMA, too. And these young women, this is also, once again, a new foothold in a community, right? MMA women. The girls who like MMA, they do not. These are young people. You would think they’re all woke, right? You would think all young women, they’re all woke. They all hate men, yada, yada. Uh-uh. They like strong men. They like strong men. They like it for real. By the way, they don’t mind women mixing it up in the ring. Okay, they’re tough. And this is a new kind of tough, hardened, young American that’s coming up that’s looking at all the sissiness of our culture and saying, we’re sick of you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they’re gaining. They’re at $1.3 billion now. Just as an example, in the NFL, I won’t give you a number because they’re huge, but NBA is about $11 billion. NHL is $6 billion. MLB, let me check that one really quick before I move on here. MLB, Andy, is around $11 billion, about the same as the NBA. So they’re $1 billion. So they’re 10% of where you’re at with two of the largest out there, NBA and MLB.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but for fights, that’s huge. Boxing and fights have never been anywhere near on the scale because you don’t have teams. These aren’t team sports that you can have your kids in as a team.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. This thing’s going to grow. Trust me. If it continues to go the direction that it’s going right now, it could easily become in the top two to three sports of people that watch and go to the events and so on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, just the fact that the president is a fan is big.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And the left right now, Andy, the biggest problem that they’ve got is they’re in flat-out denial. There is a few sane Democrats in public eye, like Bill Maher, where he’s basically out there saying, hey, guys, wake up. You blew it in this last election. If you continue down this same path, you’re going to keep blowing it down the road. You said something during the break that is fitting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, I mean, it’s just crazy. On the right, Trump is partying with the MMA crowd, right? Right. And meanwhile, the left is telling us that men can have babies.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, men can get pregnant.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so he’s partying with MMA, and they’re telling us that men can have babies. Right. We need to put feminine hygiene products in men’s rooms. And that it’s okay for a guy, a biological male, to beat up a woman in the boxing ring. I’m telling you what, here’s a big problem that they may start to have. Not with men, they’ve already got that, but with women. Because, I’m sorry, but the left, with their messaging, is generating men that I think women are looking at and saying, we don’t want that. Those aren’t guys. We want guys.
SPEAKER 15 :
Andy, I was going to get to that today. I think you just opened up a box that I wanted to open anyways. We’ve talked about it enough already. I think what you’re going to actually start seeing happen, which is going to be really deadly for the left, men are going to start being men again. And women are going to say, oh, wow, you’re back. I kind of like this. Yeah. Okay, yeah, you know, okay, I’m good with this.
SPEAKER 07 :
What do you know? A guy being more masculine again doesn’t become abusive. Right. Right. Oh, yeah, because if they become men again, they’re going to be toxic. It’s going to be toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity, right. And they’re going to be, you know— abusing you and beating girls and hounding them and all this.
SPEAKER 15 :
You mean I get to be treated like a queen?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. Guys, real men treat women like princesses.
SPEAKER 15 :
They treat women like royalty. I’ll get to go to dinner. I get to go places. He’ll do things for me. We can travel. We can do this. We can do that. And by the way, the economy is better, so we can afford to do these things. Wow, I’m in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Everywhere I go with my wife, and people see this, I fall over myself for her. I do. I adore her. I worship her. Right. You know what I mean? Obviously not the same as I worship Christ, you know. No, but that’s fine. I get it. She is a gem. She is royalty. She’s fantastic. I don’t look down on her.
SPEAKER 15 :
When women start seeing more of that, they’re going to be more like, oh, how do I, where do I, where do I check in for that? Yeah, yeah. One, please. And how do I sign up for that? Right. Andy, I’m with you. I think, again, it’s a big problem for the left right now that they are in denial over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, a lot of people have, let’s say, gone through bitter breakups. You’ve got young people who’ve gone through bitter breakups, and maybe this girl is stuck with kids, and the guy is gone. Okay. That’s a bad situation, right? I got it. Okay. How many of those women… Don’t want a strong man to be in the household with them and the child.
SPEAKER 15 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 07 :
Zero. They all would love that. Right. Now, they don’t want an abusive man or a neglectful man or a jerk who messes around kind of guy. Right. No, not the kind who left. No, no, no. He can keep going. You keep walking. Get out. Right. Okay. But… Those women, they look at the idea, you say, no, no, no, I’m talking about a caring partner in life who’s a real man, who gets into his body a bit, goes to the gym, and treats you like a queen because he thinks you’re awesome and also loves your kid. Would you like that?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think what’s going to happen is, and there’s a really strong opportunity here, a viable opportunity, and I’ll get into the church in a moment, but there’s a huge opportunity for us as conservatives to continue down this path, because I think women are really going to look at this, and where I was going with this, Andy, is I think a lot of these young men who haven’t really understood or even been taught what’s it like to be a man, they’re going to now see, oh, these are things that it’s okay to do, and I can be a man. In fact, I want to be a man, and I want to be that. I think these young kids are going to say, wow, okay, I’ll be that. And they will. Now, church, those of you that are listening, pastors, leaders, ministry heads, and so on, Stop feminizing the church and take a hold of this right now. You have an opportunity to bring men back into the church, probably more so than you ever have in the last 50 years of churchgoers. Don’t lose this. Right. Am I right, Andy? Yeah. The opportunity is sitting in front of you. Don’t lose it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Everything the Bible describes in a guy is becoming popular again.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, so take advantage of that church.
SPEAKER 07 :
You might want to jump on that. And by the way, can we real quick look at women? Yes. John, where did people get this ridiculous idea that feminine women are somehow weak? Oh, that’s completely the opposite. I’ve met your wife.
SPEAKER 15 :
Completely the opposite. John, not weak. No, completely the opposite. You’ve met my wife. Is she weak? No, very few feminine women are.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, they’re not weak at all. They’re strong.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, you look at a Melania Trump who is probably the definition of femininity, and is she weak?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, not a chance.
SPEAKER 15 :
No. She could eat Jill’s lunch. Yeah. Literally.
SPEAKER 07 :
Unless Jill invites her, because then she looks at her and says, you guys raided my underwear drawer.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I’m not going.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, go pound sand.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right, and that’s what I mean. She’s a very strong woman.
SPEAKER 07 :
There’s nothing weak about femininity.
SPEAKER 15 :
And there’s nothing abusive about masculinity. I guess what we’re saying in this last little segment is we’re going to get back to the roles God designed in the first place?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, amazing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but here’s the thing. In that MMA crowd, John, here’s what you see. You see all those guys rocking and rolling. By the way, you see a lot of women in that MMA crowd too, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
You do.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what you’re watching? You are watching a whole generation re-embrace The very femininity and masculinity described in the Bible. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
They don’t know it, but they are.
SPEAKER 07 :
And by the way, it’s also described in a lot of other ancient religions.
SPEAKER 15 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s normal.
SPEAKER 15 :
They may not know it, but they are.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are. And I think, as we’ve said many times— I mean, by the way, that guy who just won and was dancing for Trump, he’s a big Christian.
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead. Again, as we’ve said, the normals won two weeks ago.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
And if we play our cards right, we’ll continue to win. Keep in mind— The loony left has been there for a long time because evil has always been around. And yes, I equate the left to evil because they are. They stand against everything that normalcy and Christianity stands for. That’s the left. That’s why I’ve always struggled with how can you be on the left and be a Christian? You can’t. No, you can’t. It doesn’t go in the same sentence, and I’ll stand by that until I go to the grave. You can’t do both, folks. It just doesn’t work.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it doesn’t. Not in the modern age. No way.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t know that it’s ever worked, Andy, because, again, the Marxists left. Given the fact that a Marxist wants to replace God with government, how can that work, Andy? It can’t.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I just see young people for the first—you know, John, what’s it like when you’ve been told something is toxic for years and years, and then you go and experience it, and it’s a blast?
SPEAKER 15 :
And you’re like, wait a minute, where’s this toxic thing that I’ve heard all about?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And forget about masculinity for a moment. Maybe you’ve been told, you’re a young person, you’ve been told that country music is for those hicks and it’s stupid and all this. You go and enjoy a concert. And then you go to a country bar where everybody’s doing the dancing and whatever, and you’re like, this is pretty fun. Or maybe metal music, and you’re just like, man, that’s just for these terrible. Then you go and enjoy it, and you see this guy really doing a rip, and you’re like, wow, that’s impressive. When you’re told something’s bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, and then you get to embrace and have some fun with it. I think the left has a problem.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can put this break off for just a few moments here. Question since we’re right there. Sure. Dovetail into this. Is Hollywood going to change in the way they make movies given what just happened?
SPEAKER 07 :
I believe they already are. Because, you know, I watch movies, too.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, we do it every Friday. For those of you that maybe don’t know that, we review movies. Andy does every Friday. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And there’s still wokeness in movies. But, John, if you were to go back a few years, wokeness was absolutely taking over the movie industry. Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it was ruining it.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was. And it was hurting their sales. We’ve talked a lot about Disney and their fall down. Yeah. Wokeness is being driven out. And something is coming back into movies. and that is masculinity, is starting to make its way back into the movies. And by the way, as it does, you might start to see comedy make its way back into the movies. Comedy was dead. Comedy is dead, yeah. How many good romantic comedies have you seen in the last five years? We haven’t. There’s virtually none. They’re not funny anymore. Okay, I think… The No Fun League’s in charge. Right, the No Fun League’s in charge. Let me tell you something. The No Fun League just lost an election. Yes. And I think that they are starting to see, wait a minute… We got to start treating people as they are, not as we want to reconstruct them to be. And maybe people will have some more fun. When you watch Blazing Saddles, which is ludicrous, but it’s supposed to be over-the-top racism. Correct. You’re making fun of racists.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. It’s supposed to be fun.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. You’re making fun of racists. Right. You should. Okay. Those things I think could be coming back. I really do.
SPEAKER 15 :
What do you think? Well, no, I think to prove that those of you that maybe are totally against the NFL, which by the way, you shouldn’t be right now because the transformation that’s happening, even inside of the NFL right now with all these guys, you know, you know, catching a pass or getting a touchdown or whatever and doing the Trump dance. Yeah. The,
SPEAKER 07 :
The NFL’s on your side now.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you’re anti-NFL, don’t be, because it has changed. I mean, it’s been changing over the last several seasons anyways, but currently, after this election, it has really changed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. It is death to the kneelers now. The kneelers are gone. Those guys are out of there.
SPEAKER 15 :
The dancers are here. Yeah, the Trump dance is here. Oh, yeah. And so, yeah, if you guys in the past have been anti-NFL for whatever reason, even anti-college, because it’s happening in the college end of it as well, welcome to the new world of football. Welcome.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, you know me. I boycotted the NFL for quite a while during the kneeling thing, and I’m glad I did. A lot of people did in the NFL, lost a lot of money and woke up and changed. But now I’m looking at it and just saying, oh, what a great time to watch the NFL.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, it is. It’s exciting. It’s fun. That’s true even on the college level. The college players are getting into this as well. It’s great. I mean, this thing has caught on. And again, it’s a movement. Literally, it’s a movement. I don’t know how else to say it. That the left didn’t expect and really, honestly, folks, has no response to. They have no reason, because right now they’re still in denial. Go look at any program. Look at The View, their number one daytime program, and look at these ladies that are sitting up there in complete denial of what’s going on right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
You would think that entire world, the MMA crowd and all of that, didn’t exist if you watched The View. And it’s like, guys, you do realize that crowd just won an election.
SPEAKER 15 :
But Andy, in their eyes, we shouldn’t exist. That’s the problem. Good point. We shouldn’t exist. And so in their mind, that’s why they’re in total denial is because we shouldn’t even be here. Well put. We’ll be right back. Golden Eagle Financial is up next. Al Smith, who wants to take care of your future finances, helping you with retirement and then staying there. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, John, you know we’ve been talking about masculinity and femininity and how it’s coming back in America. Let me give you an example of femininity.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Tulsi Gabbard.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, great example.
SPEAKER 07 :
First of all, people are saying, gee, will she make it through confirmation? I think she will. I think she’s going to sail through. She’s brilliant. Now, tell me something. Is Tulsi Gabbard feminine? Very much so. Very much so. Is she weak? Not at all. Polar opposite. Is she stupid and gullible?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, not at all. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. No, she’s one of the smartest people in the room.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and by the way, Let’s face fact, she’s at least early on the odds on favor to be the VP candidate for us in 2028. I pity them if that happens. Look, that’s femininity. Real femininity doesn’t mean you’re, you know, some, I don’t know, helpless waif. just waiting for a man to come rescue you. It’s like, no, no, no, you guys aren’t getting it. When people put that out, they’re bitter against manhood. That’s why they say things like that. Real femininity is strong, and it’s beautiful, and it’s awesome. Let me tell you something. Tulsi Gabbard is, I think, a real example for women nationwide.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and I think to go against Mark Cuban’s comments about how everybody around Donald Trump is dumb, number one, that probably was another icing on the cake for the election to where a lot of people listened to that, even some women, and said, okay, wait a minute, I’m a lot like her, and you’re now calling me dumb. Okay, Mark, here’s a checkmark next to Trump’s name.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Another example, Megyn Kelly. Oh, geez. She is hitting it out of the park here lately. Of course she’s hitting it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Holy cow. Well, is she dumb?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, not at all. Is she feminine? Very.
SPEAKER 07 :
Totally. Is she weak?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not at all. And by the way, she’s another one. For those of you that are hardcore Trump lovers, Megyn wasn’t for a while. Right. Her and Donald went round and round over some things, and she was kind of anti-Trump for a few years there, and then they mended their ways, and she came back around, and she’s been all in for Trump throughout this entire election. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I like that, John. I like people who grapple with the idea of Trump, not just the ones who jump in because they want to be a follower.
SPEAKER 15 :
She had to be convinced that this is the guy I need to be putting my hat in the ring for.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, how do you not respect Megyn Kelly?
SPEAKER 15 :
And, again, I did not like her for a while. I actually stopped following her and a few things along those lines. I still liked her. I didn’t through that time. So I was one of those that sort of went anti-Megan for a while and then came back around when she kind of found her way back into the fold, I guess you could say. I’m like, okay, Megan, I’ll start watching you again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, welcome back to the club. I hope we see you at the meetings.
SPEAKER 15 :
Lately, if you guys aren’t following some of her shows and commentaries and so on of late, you need to be. She is rock solid. Okay.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. How about Laura Trump?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Laura Trump.
SPEAKER 15 :
Spot on.
SPEAKER 07 :
My gosh. And I do believe she will be the next senator in Florida. Really? I do love Pam Bondi, though. I’d be all in on that one.
SPEAKER 15 :
Laura’s good, too, though.
SPEAKER 07 :
But Laura Trump’s wonderful, and we’ve got a couple others down there who are terrific, too. You know, Florida has the deepest bench anywhere. It’s crazy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, look at the state.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, look at the state.
SPEAKER 15 :
Kind of makes you want to move there, but… I know. My home’s here, so it’s hard to do, but… Ugh. I mean, look at what they’ve done.
SPEAKER 07 :
But once again… Okay, really quick. Is Laura Trump feminine?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, but… See what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 07 :
Really quick, back to Florida.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, go ahead. It wasn’t always deep red. No! So it shows you that with proper leadership in Colorado, is there a chance to take this back the other way? There’s always a chance. Look at states like Florida that did so. Look at Georgia. Georgia can go either way. depending upon what’s happening in the state, correct? Right. It can flip-flop, and it’s right next to Florida, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
But it’s actually trending pretty well, thanks to Brian Kemp.
SPEAKER 15 :
Luckily, but it hasn’t always, right? Right. It was trending blue. Florida was really trending blue until DeSantis and his machine got there, correct? Correct. So, in other words, with good leadership… Things can be changed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Imagine that, GOP in Colorado. Yeah, what a concept.
SPEAKER 07 :
Reach out to the market and persuade the market.
SPEAKER 15 :
Don’t divide, unite.
SPEAKER 07 :
Don’t attack all of the market that you don’t like and demonize the market.
SPEAKER 15 :
Some of you that are listening, when you come around to the next assembly, which is what, February, March-ish? I don’t know exactly what the date is, Andy, something like that, which isn’t that far away. It’s what, three months out, two and a half months out, roughly? Yeah, you folks have an opportunity to pick leadership… That will really change the direction of Colorado in the future.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, leadership that doesn’t lose by 30 points in a primary. Leadership that doesn’t divide the party.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we’ve got, again, as I keep talking, as I talked about a moment ago with we as Republicans and the church and this grand opportunity, those of you that are in that arena… that have the power to make a change there. Think about what we’re talking about today and what we’ve said and this opportunity that lies in front of us, this wave that’s still there that we can now catch. Don’t blow it. Don’t blow it. Don’t reelect Dave Williams, in other words. You’re going to blow it if you do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, absolutely. Look, we lost 3.7%. And I’m not going to put all that on Dave Williams. There’s always multiple factors. But the fact is they didn’t do a good job. Their endorsements were horrible. We showed it. We went through the numbers. And they divided and drove people away. But here’s the biggest thing, John. It was their entire posture toward the unaffiliated voters here in Colorado who are half the voters.
SPEAKER 15 :
Over half now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Looking at them and saying, we will do anything. We’ll do lawsuits, anything to keep you out of our primaries. Look, I prefer closed primaries. You do too. But folks, telling half the state’s voters get off our lawn, you’re not looking at the market as it is.
SPEAKER 15 :
We determined last Tuesday it’s almost 60%. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
nationally we realized, hey, how about winning in the market you have and what did we do? We embraced early voting and we kicked butt. Embrace what you have. Win with it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Don’t fight it. Which means you’ve got to change how you message, how you approach the middle, what you say to the middle, the candidates that you run in certain districts and so on. It’s an entire operation that needs to be changed dramatically if we’re going to win moving forward. And frankly, folks, I’ll just say it straight up. We don’t have… We don’t have the intelligence level in the leadership of the Colorado GOP right now to do what I just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m sorry. We just don’t. You guys can say that I’m rude in saying it that way, but it’s the truth. We don’t have the skill set nor the intelligence level to do what I just said in the leadership at the Colorado GOP right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, and the proof of that is they try to silence any dissent.
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We don’t yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Tomorrow, Health and Wellness Wednesday. And we’ve got a guest that’s going to join us in the first segment of tomorrow’s program at 315, talking about feet health.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which I’ve never had anybody in that hour talking about foot health. So for some of you that maybe struggle a little bit with your feet and so on. Tune in tomorrow at 315. A lot of people do, John. It’s a topic I probably should have embraced a long time ago, but sometimes guests just come in different ways, and so I’ve got a foot expert coming tomorrow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that’s great.
SPEAKER 15 :
So we’ll talk to them at that time. So, guys, have a great night. Be safe. Stay warm. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
