Join host John Rush and guest Eli Bremer as they delve into the complex and thrilling political landscape of Colorado and the nation. From the vibrant yet chaotic political scene to the intriguing personalities like Marjorie Taylor Greene, this episode unravels the layers behind political dynamics. Strap in as they discuss the fine balance between principles and political pragmatism essential for team success and enduring leadership. In this engaging hour, the hosts share insights on how the political theater in Colorado offers a front-row seat to unpredictable twists and turns. They also explore the essence of coalition-building in the
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice.
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And welcome to our number three here on Rush to Reason. I’m Andy Pate filling in for John Rush for one more week. And on the line right now, we got the one, the only Eli Bremer. Eli, how are you, sir? I’m doing great, Andy. How are you doing? I’m doing well. And you want to know why? Because I have never gone into a year politically like we are about to here in Colorado where I get to watch more crazy unfold than this. I mean, there is not enough. As you know, I’m a movie critic, so I eat a lot of popcorn. There is not enough popcorn on earth to satisfy my hunger for what I’m about to watch unfold.
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And Andy, that’s both in Colorado and around the country. I mean, this is going to be, you’re 1000% correct. Next year is going to be an absolutely amazing year.
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Yes, it is. I want you to do me a favor, though, first, before we even get into vetting some of the crazies. Because we got the crazy kookies, the kooky loonies that are running in some of the races here in Colorado. We’re going to get to them because we’ve talked about this before. We really do have to vet our candidates. But first, because we’re talking loony and crazy, let’s go national. I want you to tell me a little about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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Well, look, if you couldn’t see that one coming from a mile off, you probably weren’t paying attention. I mean, it has been so clear from the beginning that this woman is a fake. She moved into Georgia 14 from another district because she couldn’t get elected there. She’s never been who she said she is. And so I like the only thing I’m surprised that is that anybody is surprised because You know, this was always going to happen. And so I’m completely not surprised. I’m thrilled that she’s leaving Congress. There’s a gentleman I know down there, Clayton Fuller, who I think is probably going to be the lead candidate to replace her. He went to the Air Force Academy. He’s a lieutenant colonel in the Guard, a prosecutor.
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Yeah, but no, no, no, no, no, no. You’re giving me his resume. I just want to know one thing. Is he a normie? Is he normal?
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Yes.
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Is he a normal, sentient biped?
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He is a normal person. Well, actually, he’s not normal. He’s married to his wife, his only wife. He is a good prosecutor. He doesn’t have any scandals in his background, and he believes in good governance. And Supporting the president’s agenda and putting your own agenda aside when your party has a president in office. I know that’s crazy. But yeah, he’s he’s someone that hopefully we’ll never hear of in Colorado, because if you’re hearing about a congressman, they’re probably not doing a good job.
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You know, I will say this, and I actually enjoyed Marjorie Taylor Greene at times. I thought she made a lot of great statements and a lot of great speeches. I really did. But then she would just go off the deep end and she would do it too much. And at the end, of course, she turned on Trump because Trump. From what I heard, he basically let her know, look, here are the numbers. You cannot compete statewide in Georgia. You can’t. You can only win in your red district. I can’t back you for a statewide run. And apparently that’s where the fracture happened. But she became an all-out enemy and basically just attacked MAGA. And now she has become a very divisive force. You’ve got factions. You’ve got a faction in MAGA that looks at her, that looks at Matt Gaetz, that looks at some of these splinter cells.
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and is really turning on mag itself what what is and and it’s it was again it was always going to be that way and it’s been national it’s been here you know i caught a lot of flack when trump you know i supported trump when he was going to be our nominee in 2016 and the establishment folks here in colorado walked out on on president trump at the rnc convention they wanted to and then that’s correct who’s a good guy too by the way i like cruise but yeah that they should i think i think I think the primary voters, frankly, made a much better decision with President Trump. I think he’s proven he’s a much better president than Cruz could have been. But it was about a year later that those same people were accusing me of being a rhino because I wasn’t – I was accused of being a rhino because I supported President Trump. And I always will support our Republican Party nominee. That’s what you do. And frankly, if you’re a congressman and you have a Republican president, it’s your duty to stand up and support them. And it was the Freedom Caucus that obstructed Trump’s in his first term, and they were the ones who kept President Trump from fixing the health care system. And guess what? We’re paying the price for that today because it still isn’t fixed. So, you know, I’d like to see folks out there that are a little more locked up with the president. You don’t have to fully agree with them. But when you have a president, it’s your job as a Republican to support that agenda because it’s a team sport. And Marcia Taylor Greene was always about her.
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Eli, you don’t have to totally agree with Donald Trump. That’s not the point. But you’ve got to be a team player. And the biggest problem that Marjorie Taylor Greene had was not some of her kooky statements. The biggest problem was she wasn’t a team player. She wasn’t. Look, when you go… And I feel the same about Thomas Massey. I feel the same about Rand Paul. And I agree with them on a ton of stuff, especially fiscally with Massey and Paul. But… When you go up there on the Hill, if you don’t operate as one, you put your party in the position of having to get one more Democrat vote than they wanted to pass anything. And Marjorie Taylor Greene was becoming that way. She turned on a terrific, I think, a terrific head of the House in Mike Johnson and wanted him thrown out. So she’s trying to get him thrown out. She’s attacking Trump. She’s not backing us on critical bills. It’s just she was a bad team player.
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Well, and look at the Denver Broncos, okay? How awesome is it that, you know, the Denver Broncos are leading their division. They just had an incredible season. They’re a great team. The quarterback – look, they’re a great team, okay? And the quarterback is a guy named Bo Nix. And when they break – the huddle bo gets to call the place okay that’s what the quarterback’s job is can you imagine if if you had a tight end who said you know what actually i i think we should run a different play here and so i’m just going to do my own thing and is the tight end’s name is the tight end’s name thomas massey Yes, and there’s another tight end named Marjorie Taylor Greene. There’s a few of them out there. And that’s not their job. The tight end’s job is to line up in their position, accept the call of the quarterback, and if the quarterback throws the ball to them, they catch the ball, and if they block, they block. That’s the tight end’s job. They tried out for that position. They got that position. They do that position. The president’s job is to set the agenda. Which is why I’ve always supported President Trump. And even there’s times I’ve disagreed with his tactics. There’s times I disagree with the things that he said. Sure. But he is our party’s nominee. He is the president of the United States. And if you are in Congress and a Republican with a Republican president. You’re not going to get anything done unless you recognize that that’s the leader of the party and he gets to set the agenda.
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Right. Look, I mean, I came out last week and I and I tore into his comments on Rob Reiner. And then you know what I said? But I backed the guy 110 percent. All the way. All in. Okay? That’s what you have to do. I can disagree with my leader and let him know I disagree. But when it comes to play team ball, you got to play team ball. Otherwise, you don’t have the numbers to win. Look, we have to have a… Trump has to lead a coalition to win because the Democrats are just too big. You can’t have people splintering off. You can’t do it.
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That’s right. And that’s what frustrates me about this is… You know, these are showboaters that are out there just trying to make a name for themselves. It’s performative politics. It’s not substantive politics. And what I like are the guys that play the role that they were elected to do. And we only have a few-seat majority in the House. And I don’t really need anybody else setting an agenda out there because we’ve got to stick together and we’ve got to get stuff passed. And again, this is not just academic. If you look back at 2017, go look at really what happened. Yes, John McCain was the final person who killed the revamp of Obamacare. But John McCain was always going to do what he did. He was a bullheaded U.S. senator, okay? You could see that thing from a mile off. It was the Freedom Caucus that didn’t follow the president’s lead. They refused to allow him to set the agenda. And because of that, Americans today still have higher health care costs. Right. Same basic problem. We could have gotten rid of a lot of Obamacare. Absolutely. And this is a big political problem for Republicans right now. It’s the number one issue Democrats are trying to use and compete on. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah. And, you know, what really gets me here, Eli, is you’re going to have people listening to us and they’re saying you’re you’re wanting us to, you know, compromise our principles. No, I don’t. But you have to understand, we don’t have a 30 seat lead in the house. OK, when you have a 30 seat lead. then you can go out and you can do your speeches and you can make your votes that are contrary. And you can play with that margin because you have a margin. We don’t have a margin. And so you got to play the numbers. You have to advance the most liberty you can in every situation, which means we have to get the ball across. And they say, well, then why don’t you do it our way? Why don’t you pass bills that we want? Because if we do that, we’re going to get creamed.
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You can’t pass a purest bill.
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And furthermore, Andy, people say, oh, this is about principles. No, no, it’s actually about positions. There’s a great book out there. It’s been so helpful to me in my business, political, just general life. It’s called Getting to Yes. And it’s one of the greatest books about negotiations and how to get the most out of a negotiation. And they talk about that, the people who they think that they have principles, but what they really have is positions. And so oftentimes we get caught on these weird abstract positions and we forget what our principles are. If you are truly pro-life, then you should advance legislation that supports that, even if it’s 5%, 15%, 25%.
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Right, because that’s the best you can do in that setting.
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That’s correct. You are not principled if you don’t advance your agenda. You are foolish. Right. You’re actually, in fact, I would propose that you are, in fact, unprincipled.
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Well, yeah, I mean, and take a look back. Look, the personhood amendment. OK, I agree with the personhood amendment. I, you know, I believe in life since conception. But the personhood amendment was one of the greatest recruiting tools for the Democrats amongst young women that we’ve ever put forward by pushing the personhood amendment, which was an all or nothing abortion amendment. Right. That was heavily pro-life. It agreed with me, but it was strategically bad. What did it do? It resulted in way more abortions.
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That’s correct. And so, you know, I think if you look at it and say, if we judge people on the actual outcomes of what they do, that’s a much better way to look at it. And that’s how I view President Trump. President Trump oftentimes says things that are not traditional conservative, but his outcomes are pretty good. And it’s a heck of a lot better than Hillary Clinton. It’s a heck of a lot better than Joe Biden. It’s a heck of a lot better than Kamala Harris. And that’s why I said I find it very frustrating when people say they’re standing on their supposed principles in getting in his way to advance.
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a conservative agenda that’s just that’s just silly okay well tell you what we talked about mtg and the fact that she’s going to be replaced by one of the normals what i want to talk about after the break are the abnormals here in colorado i want you to vet our candidates in cd3 cd8 and the latest one to join the governor’s race are you ready
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Oh, Andy, we only have 40 minutes left, and I need about three hours for that.
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TJ here with KLZ Radio, and I’ve got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial with us once again. Al, we are coming into a new year here now, and we’ve talked recently about getting a fresh look at our retirement accounts. So tell me what that means a little bit. What kind of stuff do you want folks to look at?
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Well, a fresh look is not only looking at the past and seeing how you’re doing, but putting together what you would like it to look like in the future, not just growth, but are things on track? Some other maybe non-financial things? Are there some other things that you have concerns about as you get closer to retirement?
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Very cool. And what do you do for folks when they come in? And let’s say it’s a potential client that you’ve never seen before. Where do you start looking with a new account like that?
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Well, I have a pretty lengthy conversation where we dive into a timeline when they might like to retire and a few income things so we could get a handle on the amount of money they’re going to need to retire. What does that look like for you? Are you going to be traveling a lot? Are you going to be skiing? Are you going to be spending a lot of time at home? Because some people’s idea of retirement means they’re going to need $10,000, $12,000 a month. Other people, $4,000 or $5,000 is going to be very adequate depending on what kind of things they do in retirement.
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That’s pretty great. Al Smith goes through a lot more than just numbers, folks. He’s about people and really wants to find out exactly what you want to do with your retirement. Al, how do people get in touch with you if they want to start that process?
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Well, you can reach me at the office, 303-744-1128. My cell is 303-875-4572. I reply to texts and And if you’d like to hear about taxes as you get closer to retirement, there’s an event coming up January 10th at Arapahoe Community College. You got it, Al.
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And as always, you can reach Al from the klzradio.com website. Just go to klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
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Well, you’re welcome. Thanks for having me, TJ.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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And welcome back to Rush for Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And on the line right now, we got Eli Bremmer. Eli, oh, do we have some fun. Let’s start in CD8. And who is the current holder of CD8?
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Gabe Evans, who is the incumbent congressman. And he won a really tough spot. seat. Barb Kirkmeyer ran a great race there a couple of years ago. Gabe’s been endorsed by President Trump. He is one of the top probably 10 targets for Democrats in the House of Representatives. And that’s a seat we must hold if we’re going to maintain our majority in the House.
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Right. Now, the guy who’s running against him, which who you will talk about in a moment, I just want to say this is somebody who I have debated with online. And more than almost anyone I’ve ever debated with, this gentleman dodges every single point, evades, evades, dodges, dodges, evades, and then tells some things that flat out are not in line with the facts. We’ll just say that. What is his name, sir?
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Well, his name is Adam Dorito. Yep. So like the chips and spelled slightly differently, I think. But yeah, he’s a comer to politics. And, you know, I think, Andy, the last time I was on your show, we actually talked about betting and the importance. And we did this about for that exact reason.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Well, vet him for us for a moment, because for those who don’t know Adam Dorito, I’m not here to demonize him. We’re being honest. OK, I’m just saying my experience with him is just like this. When I heard that this guy was running against Gabe Evans, who is an outstanding candidate in such a deep purple district. Right. I was just like, you’ve got to be kidding. Tell us about Adam Dorito.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah. Since we’re looking at it sort of more academically on how you’d vet somebody, you kind of start with what they say about themselves. And he says that he was kicked out of the Air Force Academy because he was uncovering sexual assaults and got punished for that. And it’s a compelling story. He stood up for the little guy, stood up to do what’s right, and then tells a story about how he works in, I think, the oil fields in Weldon County. you know, that he’s part of like America first veterans and that he’s very tight with like the Trumps and the Trump family and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. So here’s the problem is that none of that’s actually true. And so he got kicked out for malfeasance from the Air Force Academy, has concocted a story about that. And this is the type of thing why you have to not just look at what someone says because, again, the story he tells is very compelling. You know, the truth of the matter was that he was involved with some pretty gross personal misconduct, and that was why he got kicked out and has been telling a lot of bizarre stories sort of ever since. he’s from all appearances fabricated connections with the Trump family and has sort of tried to make it look like he’s someone who he’s not. And the reason this is important is that You know, the media will be super kind to Democrats who tell fibs. I mean, of course, you know, you look at, you know, Joe Biden was a was a plagiarist and they were fawning all over him. And a Republican did that. They skewer him. You know, you you just got. Was it Blumenthal, Senator Blumenthal, that lied about going to Vietnam? And, you know, people are like, well, I mean, who didn’t lie about that? Republicans are never going to get that level of deference from the media. And having a Republican who is telling fibs about themselves, has dark secrets to hide, that is a recipe for disaster. You know, Republicans lost a seat in Congress this year because we had a scammer get elected in New York. Right. and George Santos, and that seat flipped mid-cycle because we elected a guy who really hadn’t been properly vetted.
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Right, and by the way, people like Santos and some of these, they’re backed by these rabid activists. Who don’t care about how – here’s the one thing that they all have in common. Every one of these candidates we’re about to mention today, their activist supporters do not care how they will sell to the market. They do not care how they will sell to the middle, which we have to win, especially in Colorado, to win any kind of election. They don’t care. They literally do not care.
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Well, and, you know, I’ll keep it as team as I can because we’re on radio, but this candidate who is taking on an incumbent, you know, sitting Republican congressman in one of the toughest districts in the country, what it appears that he did was sending lewd pictures to an underage person. That’s what he was accused of that eventually got him. Now, do you really want that coming out about your candidate during the campaign? No, don’t think so. I mean, that’s that’s just that’s a really tough one to overcome. So before we get into do I agree with this person, 98 percent or 99 percent of the time, you got to ask some of these questions. about, you know, do they have disqualifying things in their background? Are they being truthful about it? And again, this is, you know, look at George Santos is a prime example. He went from Congress to jail and his seat went from Republican to Democrat. So it’s, you know, it is important that we vet candidates. And I think, you know, I think in Colorado, that’s going to be just as important as anywhere else in the country.
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Okay, but this was easy. The next one is truly entertaining, and that is CD3. Who are the two candidates in CD3, sir?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you’ve got Jeff Hurd, Republican incumbent, who won that seat. Now, let’s remember, that was Lauren Boebert’s former seat. And she was going to lose there.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s why she ran to the fourth. She was going to get killed in that district.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, hats off to Congresswoman Boebert because I think she and some other people looked at that and said that was going to be, she was going to put that seat at risk. And she moved over to the fourth, and that was controversial. But that opened up the door for Jeff Hurd, who was outspent something like nine to one. Now, I’ve been around, you know, seen a lot of political races. I’ve rarely seen a race where you can get outspent nine or ten times to one and come close. And he won that by about four points. and that was a district that the democrats were convinced they were going to win yep and may very well have the congressman bobert had stayed there um okay so that’s an important and that’s important by the way also has been endorsed by president trump he’s a great candidate for that district folks that is not a deep red district okay that’s one where bobert was absolutely going to lose and she was going to lose handily
SPEAKER 05 :
This was after her theater incident, but also it had been trending that way for quite some time. That’s a very tough district. Heard goes in and turns it around out of nowhere and wins it by four. Okay, who’s running against him? This one is the most entertaining one in the entire state.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it’s a former state party vice chairman who we caught in the act last cycle promoting Democrat ads against Congressman Hurd while she was the sitting vice chairman of the state party. So, you know, talk about someone who’s not a team player. She was totally fine with giving up the House majority, you know, as long as it meant that her, you know, that the candidate she didn’t like, the Republican she didn’t like, didn’t get elected either.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And not only that, she she promoted the ad and cut off the end of it or had someone do it. I don’t know. I wasn’t there, but cut off the last part of the ad where it shows that it was the Democrat candidate putting it out. That way she could trick her fellow Republicans into buying that this is a legitimate ad against Jeff Hurd. I mean, she is a piece of work.
SPEAKER 04 :
She is. And she struggles with her own demons. I mean, she’s admitted to having, you know, to struggling with addiction. And God bless people to do that. And I’ve known people that have. And it’s a tough struggle. And that’s not disqualifying. But it does, you know, it makes it a bit harder. if you continue to struggle with that and and what makes it really hard for her is the fact that she’s kind of a pathological liar and was caught last year on social media making up a story about being you know effectively harassed and you know stalked by by her imaginary friend yeah she said for those are really quick here don’t run on from that this is too good okay hope sheppelman
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claimed that, first of all, there’s an account called Betsy Freedom that was out there. And I’m not going to give the whole backstory. It’d take too long. Bottom line is this. Betsy Freedom appears to have been Hope Scheppelman. Because at one point, Betsy Freedom put out a post that only Hope could have put out because she was claiming to have done duties that only Hope did. Okay, moving forward. So Hope had to distance herself and act like she wasn’t Betsy Freedom. Okay? I’m not behind the scenes. I don’t know. But I do know this. So she claimed that Betsy Freedom is a real person who lived, I forget where, southern Colorado somewhere, and that this person, who was a total supporter of Hope, who parroted everything Hope did, supported Hope 100%, because apparently it was Hope, that this person turned on Hope and became a dangerous stalker, stalking Hope and threatening her and threatening her family. Okay, here’s the problem. Hope never proved this person even existed. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and Andy, the funny thing was, so what happened was one day she forgot to toggle between her two profiles on social media and then posted… So she posted under her pseudonym. Betsy Freedom. And posted as herself, Hope Shuffman. That’s when everyone’s like, yeah, we all figured it was there. You know what? That’s like, again, you can run for office as a recovering addict. Sure. There’s people, you know, George Bush was a recovering alcoholic. fought, you know, successfully fought that battle for years and served as president for eight years. So you can do that. You can also run for office if you’ve had a fake Facebook profile and you posted stupid stuff on that. I’m sure that that’s recoverable. What is a serious character flaw is when you file a false police report to cover up that you did all of this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, she filed a police report against this Betsy Freedom. for, I don’t know, stalking and threatening her, threatening her family and all this kind of stuff. And it’s just like, can you, okay, that’s great. Can you please prove this person exists? Who is it? Can we talk to them?
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s go to the how much would Democrats love to, before we get into any policies, okay, to say this is a person who’s got so many personal demons that she runs fake Facebook profiles and then files false police reports to cover this up and has just done more bizarre things um you know her life’s just a train wreck and you know she’s yes she she says i’m ready to lead society um that’s a really easy person to defeat i mean you know we we drew a winner when we got to compete against uh kamala harris i mean you know kamala harris the dei candidate of the left you know drawing a great an easy candidate to compete against as a gift for the opponent How easy is it to compete against someone like Hope Scheppelman? Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, I’m just going to say it with both Dorito and Scheppelman, okay? And this is my opinion. This is Andy Pate giving his opinion. Free speech. I have the right to my opinion. Both of them would have literally 0.00% chance to win in the general in CD8 and CD3. Zero. None. And I believe they absolutely know it. So the question here is, why are they running? Why are they running in those two races? What are they trying to achieve?
SPEAKER 04 :
It goes back to that whole Marjorie Taylor Greene thing. They looked at someone like her and saw a hero because she was using the system to make a big name for herself. And that’s really what these people want to do. They haven’t been particularly successful in politics or in their business or anything else. So they go into politics for therapy or something, I guess. But the reason that’s important to point out is periodically one like Marjorie Taylor Greene gets through. And when that person gets through the system, they become a big drag force. Look at AOC. Yeah, AOC is the greatest fundraiser for Republicans that we’ve got because, I mean, Madani, that guy’s going to be the gift that keeps on giving. He’s going to just wreck New York City. Trump played him like a fiddle at the White House. That was hilarious to watch because Madani just had no idea how to handle President Trump. But he’s going to drive New York City down into the ground, and he’ll probably be succeeded by a Republican. And Republicans are going to get to showcase how terrible socialism and communism truly is. You know, look at what’s going on in Minnesota right now with the fraud up there. Republicans are going to be running against Minnesota, you know, and that’s just an unforced error for the Democrats. So, again, these… And you can sometimes get through as a bad candidate. And it’s actually much worse than getting screened out early because, you know, George Santos wound up in prison. And he cost us that seat. Another Republican would have won the seat and would have held the seat and said he got thrown in prison and we lost the seat. So that’s why this matters. We’re not being a dead horse on this. Periodically, one of these crazy fringe candidates gets through, and then their party pays the price.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m going to go a step further. I think these are two bitter people who hate the Republican Party and want to damage the Republican candidate. I think they want to divide the party further to make it harder for our candidates, the real ones that are going to go forward, and CD8 and CD3 to win.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I completely agree. And, you know, as most of your listeners know, I was heavily involved last cycle was trying to fix the the Republican Party because it had been hijacked by these folks. And I, you know, I had actually offered Hope and Dave Williams a deal because it looked like we were going to win in court and then they would have been on the hook for quite a bit of money personally. And I have my lawyer actually reach out to them and say, I’ll indemnify you for that if you release. We’re sitting on about 400 or they were sitting on about four hundred thousand dollars of national party funds that they had basically they had basically frozen because they didn’t want to go into Jeff Hurd and gave evidence. And I said, look, I will indemnify you from your personal liability if you release those funds so we can get these candidates elected. And they were going to absolutely cut that deal because they cared a lot more about their own hide than they did about any principal. But, you know, unfortunately, we wound up losing the court, but we still got a bunch of those funds deployed in the meantime. And that was very, you know, that became very successful. But to be very clear, Hope Shuffelman was actively working against the National Republican Party. Yeah. to prevent Jeff Hurd and Gabe Evans from getting elected.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I think they’re going to tell you what. We’ve got to take a break. When we come back, I want to talk about Oldman because this one is a piece of work. Sound good? All right. We’ll do that after the break. Let’s take a quick break. Here we go. Geno’s Auto, great mechanics, loaner cars. They have loaner cars. Everything you need to get back on the road. For the best in auto care, call Geno’s at 303-794-6700.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back to Rush Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush on the line right now. We got Eli Bremmer. Eli, who just announced he’s running for governor?
SPEAKER 04 :
Joe Ullman just announced he’s running for governor, and this is going to be beyond entertaining.
SPEAKER 05 :
So yeah, just explain why I’m not, I’m not going to say a word. I’m going to, I’m turning the mic over to you. This is too good. Go.
SPEAKER 04 :
I, well, if anybody wants a good backstory, just Google my name and Joelman’s name. Um, I, I called him out for basically, you know, acts of domestic terrorism. And the guy goes around and says we should build gallows and hang his political opponents, Republicans and Democrats. Um, just, okay. I’m just going to go out on a limb here and say that coming out and threatening to execute all of your political opponents, generally speaking, is a bad idea if you want to get elected. Now, this guy, I don’t know if he’s, like, bipolar or what the heck he is. He’s a nut job. And… You know, he’s he’s got like a podcast and he’s just that this is a treasure trove of opposition research for Democrats, because if there’s a crazy position out there, this guy has taken it. He’s he’s been, you know, big out there that, you know, Colorado voting machines are rigged and all that. And I’m like, OK, well, if you believe that, then why are you standing for elections? you know, sort of self-defeating and just has taken just about, as I said, every crazy position out there. I’ve stood up to him multiple times. He’s threatened me, you know, basically he threatens people, bullies people, just, just sending, if you were to tell me what is the worst candidate you could conjure up to run for governor, it’s probably this guy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, he’s a, he’s a rhino watch loon. I mean, he’s a purebred, okay? He is a purebred Rhino Watch loon.
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead. Andy, with all due respect to Rhino Watch, it’s like hold my beer for Joel Oatman here. Like, Oatman goes a whole step beyond Rhino Watch, okay? Rhino Watch is, you know, is just some flunkies just putting out stupid stuff that, frankly, it’s like reading the National Enquirer. Like, everybody knows they’re fools and whatever. You know, they don’t, like, call for people to be, you know, executed and stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, they haven’t done that yet.
SPEAKER 04 :
Give it time. With all due respect to the loons who run Rhino Watch, you’re just not in this guy’s league. You’re going to have to up your game and call for mass executions of people whoever you don’t happen to like that day. Now, Newsflash, the reason Joe Ullman’s going to lose is because he’s a terrible human being. People think that threatening to murder your political opponents is generally speaking bad in america and they don’t vote for that and so the reason they’re not going to vote for him is because he’s a vile human being who is just disgusting you see i i had never heard i had never heard i’d never heard about him threatening people all i saw was some of his kooky loony posts
SPEAKER 05 :
And I was just like, oh, my gosh, this guy. And I never thought he would be. I know he’s very wealthy. OK, I just never thought he’d be running for governor.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know how wealthy he is or isn’t. I deal with a lot of high net worth individuals, and the ones I know don’t like to brag about their wealth. So when someone tells me they’re wealthy, it raises a lot of signals as to whether or not that’s true or it’s for show. What I do know is I was actually the only candidate when I ran for Senate in 2022 that came out and said, You know, I know it’s going down on a limb here. It’s kind of crazy to say calling for the execution of your opponents is wrong. And he had done this. You can go look it up. It’s all over the media. This is not, you know, there’s nothing I’m saying here that you can’t just open source, go Google. It was all over the news. And it was just sort of shocking. And he was encouraging people to do this. And it is wrong to assassinate your political opponents. I know that’s just like bizarre to have to say, but. I called, you know, I was all over social media when Kirk got assassinated, calling out active duty service members. I call for active duty service members who praise Kirk’s assassination to be court-martialed under the UCMJ, which they can and they should. And I had liberal friends who said, you didn’t call out Republicans. I said, oh, yeah? Here’s news stories of me calling out this guy, Joe Oldman.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but you’re one of those MAGA crazies who doesn’t think we should kill our political opponents.
SPEAKER 04 :
You mega lunatics. Who thinks we should go win at the ballot box, which we did greatly in 2024, and then have a plan, which President Trump had, to just come in like a tidal wave and take over the government. So, you know, this is a guy who’s told some of the most bizarre stories out there. And, you know, he said he was going to run in 2022. You know, he’s currently being fined in court or just got done being fined for contempt of court. because he made up a bunch of stuff about an election tabulation system, and then got caught doing that. So, I mean, the guy’s just way out there, and he’s got a few followers that are going to support him. But, you know, this is one that, again, the Democrats would like nothing more. The governor’s race is going to be a really hard race to begin with. I’ve polled that. We’re a D plus five, D plus six. That means just on the generic ballots, The populace will vote for a Democrat over a Republican by about five or six points. OK, it could be one. You could have a great like a Glenn Youngkin kind of candidate who could win. OK, now, again, Glenn Youngkin talked about common sense kitchen table issues. He was a well-spoken, articulate, kind man. Women in particular really liked him. And that’s important because women are who Republicans are really struggling with right now, particularly 18 to 30-year-olds.
SPEAKER 05 :
And particularly in Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
Particularly in Colorado. And again, not to sound like a broken record here, but women are not inspired by brash jerks who call for the assassination of their political opponents. they tend to find that very unseemly. And so if this is not the kind of guy that they would want to go on a date with, it’s also not the kind of guy that they would want to vote for.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, let me make it very simple here, Eli. Heidi lost by 19 points, and messaging had a lot, I think, to do with that. And there were other factors. And by the way, she was facing Jared Polis. But I believe if Oltman were our candidate, we could possibly lose by 25 to 30 points.
SPEAKER 04 :
Andy, what would happen is actually the National Party would support a third-party run. Yeah, it would not just pull out, but that’s how bad it would get. This happened in 2010, where Dan Mays, who was, again, unvetted, got through the primary, and then it turned out he actually didn’t have the degree he said he had. He was talking about his business experience, didn’t have any of that either. So he got, I believe it was 11% of the vote statewide. And Republicans almost became a minor party. If you go below 10%, you become a minor party. So that’s, you know, that’s where a Joel Altman, we’ve got some candidates out there who I think. would be in the 15 to 20 point loss range. We’ve probably got some candidates that might be able to make it competitive. This one would be a 10% candidate. So this is the kind of candidate that national Democrats would be advertising with.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, okay, we’ll take a break here because when we come back, I want to talk about 2026 with the MAGA agenda, how things look nationally. I think it’s going to be a fun year. One quick thing. With those three, Joel, Hope, and Adam, who is the kookiest? Now, I know everything you’ve said about Altman, but I’m still going with Hope. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, I’m going to have to take that. I think the other two are actually more bizarre. Adam, too? You know what? How do you get more bizarre than Hope? Oh, my gosh. The stories Adam’s made up, the stories that Joe has made up, they’re terrible. But you know what? The good thing is we do have a lot to talk about for next year, and I am, like you, very excited about next year.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, let’s take a break because next year is going to be fun. When we come back after the break, Eli Bremer is going to break down 2026. Up next is Mile High Coin, coins, stamps, jewelry. If it’s small and you collect it, Dave Gonzalez can probably appraise it. Call Dave at Mile High Coin, 7203-703-400.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. Online we got Eli Brummer. Eli. We’re looking at a 2026 that is going to be explosive. And I’m just going to say what I think real quick and then throw it to you. I think we’re looking at an economic boom. I think we might see as much as 5% growth across the board, which would be Reagan-esque. I think it’s going to be fun. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I tend to agree with you, Andy. And like I’ve said before on your show, it’s rare that you like the sequel better than the first show. In this case, President Trump came back to office. extremely prepared in a way that he really wasn’t clearly the first time. And with a level of political sophistication that I think is really far beyond probably what we’ve ever seen from a president. He spent his entire first year in office doing the stuff that was very important, but that wasn’t going to get Republicans elected in the off-year election. You know, getting the border secure, stuff like that, that really does not win you an election for keeping your promises. will win an election if Republicans win the election. And by the way, it would be historic for them to do so. The party who does not hold the White House usually picks up a lot of seats in the off-year election. 25 to 30 on average. Yep. Historical precedent would be that the Democrats should have a really good year. If the Republicans hold the House, which I think there is a real chance that they will, it’s because President Trump has has properly paced himself and he’s put all of the good economic policies into play to have an impact and really peak probably in the at the end of the second to middle of the third quarter of next year, which is about the time people’s. Political opinions really start getting set. So a lot of the provisions in the one big beautiful bill are going to kick in in the new year and they’ll really start rippling into people’s bank accounts and their wallets as we head into the summertime. I think that was a brilliant move. I think that was done on purpose. And I think it’s going to it’s going to give the Republicans a fighting chance to hold the House. We’re almost certainly going to hold the Senate. The map for the Senate right now is really bad for the Democrats. So I feel very good about holding the Senate. We might even pick up a seat or two. I think there’s a chance we’ll pick up a seat in Georgia. So there’s a couple seats out there we could snipe. The House is going to be where it’s at. And because of President Trump’s vision and leadership and political sophistication, I think Republicans have a chance. Now, again, this breaks with historical precedents. I’m not saying that it’s a 95% chance or anything like that, but I think that he has given Republicans a good chance to hold the House against the historical precedent.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, look, we just had readings of only 2.7% inflation, totally going against all prognostications the entire year, and 4.3% growth in the last quarter, which shocked people all across Washington. And we are heading into… Here’s what I’m trying to say, Eli. The good times haven’t even started. Everything that he laid in place doesn’t take off really until early and mid next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. And so it’s going to be throwing gas on the fire. And that’s going to be exciting to see because the midterm elections will probably be heavily run on whether or not affordability has come back and whether people feel like Trump has done a good job managing the economy and putting dollars in their pocket. And if they feel like he’s put dollars in their pocket, I think there’s a good chance Republicans hold the House.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think so, too. I mean, I think it looks exciting. What about all the… realigning of districts that’s going on state to state I mean it looks like Texas and California balance each other out you got about a half minute left how do you think overall we’re going to do
SPEAKER 04 :
I think I think the gerrymandering wound up as a wash and the Democrats had already substantially gerrymandered most of the country anyway. Right. So most of this was baked in the cake. I don’t think we’re going to see a 25 or 30 vote swing because most districts are really, as I said, gerrymandered at this point. But it’s going to come down to probably a three to five vote majority on either side. which is why each of these House races, whether it’s Georgia 14, where Marjorie Taylor Greene’s stepping down, or Colorado 8, Colorado 3rd, where we’ve got incumbents that we need to have win. That’s why it’s going to be that close.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, last question here, and I’ll give you just 10 seconds. Minnesota, with everything going on there, California after the fires, could we possibly pick up a couple House seats?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think Americans are getting sick and tired of bad governance from Democrats, and Republicans should run on the corruption in Minnesota.
SPEAKER 05 :
Eli Bremer, thank you so much, sir. Once again, you knocked it out of the park. Thank you for telling us about all the kooks who are coming down the line. Folks, that’s it for today. Our one replays next. I’ll be back tomorrow with Luke and Ashley. Until then, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
