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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here’s Mike.
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The lone voice of reason over on CNN, the great Scott Jennings, who guest hosted for me once, which was pretty cool. He’s a good guy, and I’ve been able to stay in touch with him. Wasn’t Michael great, the guy from St. Louis a minute ago? You know, trolls are funny because they often… Their approach is to try to fool Teresa into thinking they’re going to say one thing, and then they come on the air and they say another. But what’s great is… Thanks to my pretty good sixth sense, I can spot a troll a mile away. We had one yesterday. Eric, did you catch the guy that called yesterday that was the troll, and he was going on and on, and he was about to drop the bomb? You knew he was about to drop the other shoe. He was a young guy, like that guy. They’re all about the same. They’re all in their 30s. They’re kind of younger guys, very articulate. And they start out, yeah, Mike, a lot of times they’ll say, I’m a big Trump supporter. And then they say, but. And then the whole bottom falls out, right? Well, that was what he was doing, Michael. Oh, yeah, I agree that AOC should be right. But what about Eric Adams? What about Eric? And he couldn’t. And then I said, well, do you think the courts were weaponized against Trump? And he couldn’t help himself. It was like all he could do, if you’re a MAGA idiot. I just love that. And I knew it. I knew from the second we started. The guy was a troll. Now, we’ve got this whole new system in my studio. We’re about to revamp our studios. Robert and Joe Weaver and Kimo are about to do a big transformation in here. Pretty excited. But I’m down to one or two little monitors. I used to have like 10 monitors. And everybody rolled their eyes behind their back at me, and I know they were doing it. Oh, Mike’s got to bring his 10 monitors with him. But I like to see everything at once. So now that I don’t have it, I don’t have the access to things like the troll song. If you’re new to the show, when there’s a troll, we have a little musical tribute to that troll. So Eric’s going to have to hit it. But Michael from St. Louis, good try. And we dedicate this…
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Hey, I’m a copy old troll who lives under the bridge.
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And let’s face it, the Democrats are all a bunch of grumpy old trolls right now under the bridge. They don’t know what to do. They really don’t know what to do. And they’ve got a president who is so real and so popular and organic. I mean, how many times have you called customer service and you can’t understand a word the person is saying? And you just know it’s going to be a beating. And I’m the kind of person, I don’t like to hang up on them. Believe it or not, I’m not a confrontational person. I know that will shock you. Now, I was confrontational a little bit with the construction worker today who wouldn’t let me go 10 feet to my office, making me an hour late for work as I’m driving up and down the Howard Franklin. And incidentally, if you’re ever lost, don’t call Tracy. Tracy is the last person to call for direction. She is absolutely a nightmare. And I’m frantic, and I’m like, Tracy, well, you’re on the frontage road. I know I’m on the frontage road. There’s nothing but frontage roads here. There you go, by the parking garage. There’s 100 parking garages. Which parking garage? It was a who’s on first conversation today. She’s getting frustrated with me. I’m getting frustrated with her. And Lewis and Clark, she ain’t, okay? She’s not exactly going to be a mapmaker. Good thing she’s a great producer. Because Google Maps is not going to have an opening for Tracy. Or me. Or me. I’ve only worked here for, what, five years? I couldn’t get here. So anyway, and Tracy says, it’s because you don’t listen. I know, I know. It’s my fault. It’s got to be my fault. But I just, I absolutely wonder about how Democrats are going to cope with the next four years. And so here’s a guy, like I said, you call customer service, you don’t understand a word they say. Remember last week, there was a reporter, a woman, And Trump couldn’t understand her. And he said, where are you from? I can’t understand anything you’re saying, but you have a beautiful voice. You have a beautiful accent. I say, go in peace. Because he couldn’t understand the question, so he couldn’t give her an answer. Well, it happened again yesterday.
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Thank you, Mr. President. People in India will naturally welcome your decision to extradite Thabur Rana to India back home. In that context, I’d like to ask you a question about in the last few years, we have seen several groups in the U.S. being raising anti-India voice, calling about separation, terrorism activities in India. Do you think that should continue here in the U.S. as well? You’re going to have to go louder. I can’t understand a word he’s saying.
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I can’t understand a word he’s saying. Can you imagine President Kamala Harris saying that at a press conference with the Indian Prime Minister? Can you imagine President Mitt Romney saying that? President George W. Bush? No one would ever talk… I can’t understand a word he’s saying. And I want to say that all the time. You call the phone company. You call the whatever. You call anybody. The cable company. Whatever. Can’t understand you. Call UPS. Oh, trust me. That reporter could have been a UPS representative. Because that’s where they all are. They’re all over in Mumbai. Still haven’t gotten the package. This package… That I’ve been waiting for five days. Forget it. I’m never going to get it. So I ain’t paying for it. I told the lady at the building this morning, you do not accept that package. I’m done. We’re going to go a different direction. Bill’s in New Jersey, says I’m wrong. I’m in a mood to talk to people like the troll Michael or maybe Bill in Jersey. Bill says I’m wrong on AOC. So AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, held a webinar, a Know Your Rights with ICE online webinar. It was held by Ocasio-Cortez’s office. One of the lawyers on the call said, ice raids are political tactics, and they’re often intended to create fear. So AOC, she’s got a website up that says you do not have to open the door for ice agents. And they don’t have to give you the warrant. You tell them to slip the warrant. She’s aiding and abetting illegals. Bill in New Jersey thinks I’m wrong when I ask why she isn’t being arrested for these tactics. Hello, Bill. Hello, Mr. Gallagher. How are you? Call me Mike. Call me Mike.
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Okay, Mike. How are you?
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Well, I’m good. What’s up?
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Long time listener. I saw you at the Fuge a few years ago with Dr. Seb and Dennis Prager and a big fan.
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It was a great event. We had a great time in Philly. That was a terrific event. It was.
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Yes, sir. Unfortunately, while I agree with you that what AOC does is morally and ethically reprehensible, legally she should not be thrown in jail. And like Dennis Prager says, clarity is far more important than anything else.
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I agree.
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And what I want to do is prevent you from sounding like the left does and being hysterical in your response to what she’s doing. So she’s providing information that is publicly available and legally correct. As much as you and I might not like it, and wish that it was something that could be legally prevented, she’s not giving them information that isn’t already available and correct.
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Baloney, and let me tell you why you’re dead wrong. And let’s talk about that clarity that you treasure. And I’m with you. I’m totally with you, and I always adhere to Dennis’ wonderful mantra about clarity. Clarity matters. Does AOC swear an oath to defend and uphold the United States Constitution every time she’s re-elected?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, sir, which also includes constitutional protections against warrantless searches and seizures.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m curious of where you’re coming from. And you sound like a great guy, so don’t get me wrong. I’m not trying to pick a fight with you. I want to understand why you’re defending AOC. Give me that. Give us a background on you, Bill, to help us understand what, and don’t take this the wrong way, but what acts do you have to grind? Are you anti-police? Are you anti-courts? Are you anti, tell us why you would defend. Let me finish the question. Tell us what the acts to grind you have is that would make you defend the lawless effort to subvert the law. I mean, look, Pam Bondi and others have said flat out, Any of these people that are doing this are going to be held accountable, any of them. Anyone leaking ICE operations, they’re going to be arrested, according to Pam Bondi. Tell us where you’re coming from that would make you call a show like mine with your kind words and your level head and defend a hard-left socialist Democrat congresswoman named AOC. Tell us where your perspective is.
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Okay, well, you see, unfortunately, you’re misquoting me. I do not defend AOC or her actions. I do not defend her ethical or moral stance on the matter, and I do hope that Pam Bondi and Tom Holman arrest anyone who’s committing anything illegal. Unfortunately, what I’m saying here is that you are suggesting that what AOC is doing is illegal… And that is just not true. It may be reprehensible. I agree with you.
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Well, again, I’m trying to find out where you’re coming from. What part of the law are you an expert in? Are you a constitutional scholar? Are you an attorney? Or are you just somebody with an ax to grind about law enforcement? Because, look, let’s be clear. Wait a minute. Let’s be clear here. You’re talking about federal law enforcement. For example, there’s a sheriff in Dallas. I mean, excuse me, a police chief in Dallas who says we’re not going to cooperate with ICE. We are absolutely not going to help ICE with this mass deportation effort. You have to have, and I presume you’re going to defend him the way you are defending AOC despite your protestations, because you are calling to defend her, whether you want to call it that or not. I want to know… What part of this, what’s the disconnect where you want to be on the side of people who want to refuse to comply with Trump’s mass deportation effort? Where are you coming from, Bill?
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I respect you. I am on your side of the aisle, three-time Trump voter. But legally, here we go.
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Here we go. I’m a Trump supporter.
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You can’t suggest to throw people in jail for something that isn’t a crime, and you’re sounding like the left does when you say this. They went after Trump about things that was not illegal, and you’re suggesting the AOC, instead of just being resoundedly mocked, and opposed, you’re suggesting that she should be put in jail and you sound like… I’m not suggesting it.
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I’m stating it full out. And you should, too, if you are harboring… Excuse me, you’re interrupting me. Hey, Bill, I didn’t interrupt you. Don’t interrupt me, please. Let’s take time here. Because this is a very important issue and I don’t want you to think you’re besting me or me trying to best you in a debate contest. I want to know why you’re defending lawlessness and If you break the law, if you’re a criminal and you come over to my house and you come into my home and the police are looking for you and I say, Bill, Bill from Jersey, go down into the basement and hide out there. And I stand at the door and I tell the police who are knocking at my door all the different legal ways that you can escape detention or arrest. I could be held, I could be thrown in jail for assisting in a criminal enterprise. I’m helping you, a criminal, try to get away with something. That is exactly and literally what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is doing. Is it against the law to be in this country illegally or not, Bill?
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Of course it is.
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You’re interrupting me?
SPEAKER 04 :
Go ahead, go ahead. So harboring, physically harboring an illegal alien is against the law. However, providing information such as you can deny a warrantless entry into your home is in the Constitution.
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So that’s what it is here. You’ve got some ax to grind. Have you ever been arrested? Have you been arrested? No. Have you ever been served a warrant? No. Are you supportive of law enforcement? Very much. I mean, the problem is you’re evading what it is, what chip you’ve got on your shoulder. There’s no chip, Mike. There is, Bill. There is. No, there’s not.
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I mean, listen, when I got a guy… But you’re falsely saying she’s committing a crime.
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She is committing a crime. She’s reprehensible, but she’s not committing a crime. She is criminal because she’s aiding and abetting criminals. That’s not aiding and abetting. She had them in her house. If she had them in her house, you would be correct. She’s teaching illegals how to evade. Is that information available elsewhere? A lot of things are available. I could give you all kinds of availability how to escape police.
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Is that information illegally incorrect?
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Is an anti-radar device illegal or not? I suppose it depends on the state. An anti-radar detection. In other words, and again, and we’re way over time. You’ve been on the air with me for seven minutes. We’re kind of going back over terror. You have an ax to grind, and the other thing that I think is you do, and you’re either trying to be a contrarian because you’re not telling me why it is you defend AOC when you’re clearly defending. You are, Bill. I’m not. You are.
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You are erroneously saying she’s committing a crime.
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Why are you saying you’re not defending the Democrat socialist from New York when you are?
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She’s on the wrong side of the issue, but she’s not committing a crime.
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She is absolutely committing a crime. I’ll line up about 10 constitutional scholars who will tell you why you’re wrong. But the bottom line is, again, Bill, don’t defend the indefensible. That’s all. Don’t do it. And you are, and you have.
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It also includes you. I defend your side of things, but I can’t defend your suggesting that she’s committing a crime when it’s not true.
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Maybe it’s got nothing more than you’ve got the hots for AOC. I don’t know. Maybe you’ve got some kind of weird affection for AOC. Look, aiding means to help or assist or the act of helping or assisting. You might aid somebody giving them advice. You can give them money. You can give them supplies. And you’re aiding and abetting criminals. And that’s exactly what AOC is doing. You know it. I know it. And the big red flag for me, Bill, is when you called a defender and then you pretend like you’re not defending her. And that confuses me. I appreciate the exchange. Call again. Let’s have another good back and forth. There’s no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. I sat down with Dr. Ashley Lucas, and like they say, the rest was history. I lost 53 pounds, and I’ve kept it off. I’ll see you next time. consultation call 864-644-1900 864-644-1900 or just go to myphdweightloss.com myphdweightloss.com
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Mike Gallagher.
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I want to see if we can get our caller Bill from the Jersey Shore back to the show because it was really a good exchange. And again, we’ve got a little heated, but we just have very different perspectives about aiding and abetting illegals. And I want to follow up with him because he’s a smart guy, and I think he’ll be a good sport and come back on the show. Because a lot of people are reacting. About half of you are texting that I was right, half are saying he was right. And it was a spirited debate about AOC holding seminars and teaching illegals how to avoid deportation. And Bill’s point was, well, she’s not doing anything illegal. It’s okay. She’s just following the law. And I have a couple of follow-ups I want to do with Bill. And again, he’s a really good call. So we’ll see if we can get him back. Here’s a text from North Carolina. Mike, my daughter was lucky enough to participate in that Kentucky Chorale program. While we were in Louisville, she sang with that group in the hotel atrium. The kids stood on the balcony of every floor, top to bottom, which is what the kids were doing in that video that we just played. It was incredible. Thanks for sharing. And so many people are thanking us for sharing that story. sharing that video clip. In fact, we’re happy to share it with you. If you text the keyword Anthem to the MyPillow text line, we’ll send it back to you. Our text number is 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Please never text and drive. Just text the keyword Anthem, A-N-T-H-E-M. Text Anthem to 800-655-6453, and we’ll send you back that video clip of those kids from Kentucky performing a beautiful rendition of the Star Spangled Banner. Let’s start with Dan in Omaha, Nebraska. Hello, Dan. How are you? Dan, you there? All right, let’s try Robert in Oakland, California. Hi, Robert.
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Hello, Mike. Hey. I have one. Here’s a good one for you. If you had a bank that was cheating the people by way of their policies, would you go arrest one of the tellers? If I pick on AOC, I don’t like her or the chief of police when the people at the top, like Joe Biden and his people, how many people are they responsible for bringing into the country? They paid for it. They facilitated them. Nothing’s happened to any of them. Why pick on one of the lower people? You think we’re picking on AOC, do you, Robert? Are you worried about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being picked on, Robert?
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Come on.
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I think you should go after the more responsible people.
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Well, what we’ve done is we did. We fired Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the Democrats who had an open border policy. And now there is a sea change going on, Robert. And I suspect that any of you AOC defenders simply don’t like defending her. Well, you just did. You just said I was picking on her. No, I’m not.
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You don’t understand my point.
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I don’t. I clearly don’t.
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If you want to do something, do something that counts.
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They’re trying to, and people like AOC are standing in the way. So get her. Get her, too. I’m not defending her. Okay. This weird conversation, this all started with Bill in Jersey. And Bill’s very popular because there are people saying, Mike, you know, Bill got the upper hand. It’s not about getting the upper hand. It’s about understanding right from wrong. It’s about understanding the difference between lawlessness and lawfulness. President Trump’s immigration policy now is lawful. And people like this Dallas police chief, they got an interim. Now, follow me on this. The Dallas police chief is refusing to join President Trump’s ICE deportation efforts. He has made it clear. He told the interim chief, Michael Igoe, told a gathering of people at the Familia Bethel International Church this week, the Dallas Police Department is not assisting any federal agency on detaining people that are either documented or undocumented in the city of Dallas. So you’ve got a police chief taking a stance. You’re going to defend that? The police chief says we won’t assist any federal. First of all, refusing to assist a federal agency right off the bat ought to send off all kinds of red flags and alarm bells in your head. You completely missed the point here if you are pretending you’re not defending an effort to evade accountability. And you can’t do it. And you shouldn’t do it. I am a little surprised at all the AOC fans we have by middle-aged and older men in the audience. I’ve never disputed. She’s a very attractive woman. But it feels like there’s a lot of people on this Valentine’s Day who are feeling amorous for AOC. Just remember… dear friend. She’s a socialist, hard left, former bartender who’s now mixing things up big time in New York. We’ll see if we can get Bill back because I have a question to ask him and I’m sure he doesn’t mind following up. Stick around. More coming up on the Mike Gallagher Show. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow. And I do want to tell you, I got a message from Mike Lindell himself today. This is an amazing offer. Free shipping on everything. So if you’ve thought about getting the mattress topper, which comes in a big box, and that mattress topper is like three inches of heaven. You take it and put it on any mattress, turn it into the most comfortable bed in the world. And it comes in a big box. You unfold it and everything. You unpack it. Well, guess what? For a limited time, free shipping on anything you order. Mike Lindell is so grateful to this audience for your constant support of MyPillow. They’ve tried to cancel him, too, just like they’re trying to cancel RFK Jr. and everybody else. It isn’t working because you’re standing in the breach. You’re defending this great American company. And for a limited time, not only can you get the classic standard MyPillow for only $14.98, limit $10, please, because that’s a crazy low price, the MySlippers, the doggy beds, the flannel sheets, even the mattress itself. You can get a MyPillow mattress, which has thousands of cooling points. It has the patented technology from MyPillow in the mattress. And best part of all… Free shipping. Free shipping as a thank you for your support for a limited time. So go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher Specials Square, click on that box, and with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034, like we love to sing. For the best night’s sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. You know, I really do like debate. And when I get a good caller like Bill from Jersey who debated me earlier about AOC holding seminars on how to avoid ICE deportation, and he said, look, no, I don’t like her. I’m with you, Mike. But look, it’s legal. You shouldn’t be like the left. He accused me of sounding like the left because I think she should be facing prosecution. And I want to bring him back because I know I could tell in his voice, I could hear it in his voice that he’s a good sport and a smart guy. And by the way, Bill from Jersey, you got a lot of fans out here. Maybe you ought to guest host the show one of these days. Are you up for it?
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I’m sure I could be convinced.
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I’ll bet you could handle it. I’ll bet you could. So, you know, the text line is sort of back and forth on this. A number of people are saying your views are kind of wacky and they don’t agree with you. Others are saying Bill’s absolutely right, Mike, and you didn’t. And let’s break it down so we don’t repeat the whole argument we had. But essentially, I believe… that AOC should be held accountable, even prosecuted, for holding seminars to advise illegals how to avoid ICE deportation. And you said that that’s an overreaction, basically, that she’s only putting public information out there for illegals to kind of assist them. And even though she’s reprehensible, she shouldn’t be prosecuted for that. Is that fair?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s 100% accurate.
SPEAKER 03 :
Got it. Now, the reason I want to follow up with you, and you’re saying information that’s already out there. Let’s say you’ve got a family of illegals down the street from you there at the Jersey Shore. And you learn about a pending ICE raid. There’s going to be the feds are coming into the neighborhood. Yes. Oh, you do? Yes. Of course. Well, what’s the difference? What’s the difference between tipping?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the difference is I am at that point directly interfering and obstructing with official business.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, wait a minute. You just gave them information that’s in the public. You found it on the Internet. It was well known. I mean, the police department in your area knows about the ICE raid coming. All you’re doing is you’re just tipping them off to information that’s already available. That’s what your argument is, right, to defending AOC.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I don’t know that your example really holds water. Because you’re suggesting that I am finding out information that is publicly available, and I don’t know where one goes to find publicly available information about impending raids.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, where does one go to find public information about how to avoid deportation? In other words, because you’re clearly defending AOC’s effort to let… No, I’m not defending AOC, and there is accountability in the voting booth. Okay, you’re right, you’re right, but let me make this point, and then please respond. You are clearly defending the effort to have illegals avoid deportation. No matter how you spin it, that’s your argument, that AOC’s only doing something that’s… Right? I would disagree with that, Mike. You would disagree with that? Yeah, I would disagree with that. So when I say that AOC is teaching illegals how to avoid ICE deportation, you disagree with that? I’m looking at the headline here. Pardon me, one more. I’m looking at the headline, National Review. AOC webinar teaches illegal immigrants how to avoid ICE deportation. As the Trump administration ramps up its mass deportation project, squad leader AOC’s congressional office held a webinar this week to educate fearful immigrants about their legal rights and how they can protect themselves from deportation. You’re defending that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Now, Mike, my question to you is you used a word, and it was called legal. Sure. And my only issue is my issue with what you’re saying here, Mike, is not about the morality and ethical aspect of it. I am definitely pro-mass deportation. Definitely. I message you on X. You can go check out my page. I’m available on Facebook. Everybody can go find out where I stand on these issues. So, you know, to mischaracterize me is not helpful to the discussion.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let me defend that claim. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Pause. Pause for just a minute. You continually say I’m mischaracterizing you, and all I’m doing is repeating your words back to you. And then when you hear them, you kind of distance yourself from them. I mean, I literally pointed out to you.
SPEAKER 04 :
What I said and what I continue to say is that what AOC has done is, yes, reprehensible, but not criminal. And just like when the left was going after Elon Musk and Trump because they don’t like what he does, and then they tried to lawfare him, I don’t want to see our side look the same way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, I’m going to hold my ground, and I’m going to play for you, Pam Bondi. And I don’t blame you for running from the comparison of tipping off a family or an illegal to an ICE raid. You say that’s obstructing.
SPEAKER 04 :
That would be illegal. And that is ice. Ice raids are not public information. Well, what what what is what what say that is coming from the FBI and they’re going to be prosecuted for doing that? That is a criminal act. What is what is what is characterizing a non-criminal act as a criminal act is misinformation.
SPEAKER 03 :
And again, no, no, no, no, you’re not. We’re on completely opposite. We’re on opposite sides. We’re on opposite. We’re not. You’re interrupting me. I’m not trying to interrupt you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hang on, hang on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bill, hang on. We’re not on the same side. We’re on completely opposite sides because you’re defending the indefensible, and I’ll tell you why. And you’re wise enough to try to put daylight between tipping off an illegal over public information about a pending ICE raid. But you’re smart enough to say, oh, well, that’s obstructing. I get why you’re doing it. There’s no public information about pending raids.
SPEAKER 04 :
I get why you’re doing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Ask home if there is public information about impending raids. I get why you’re doing it. You’re sounding silly at this point, Mike.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I’m trying to prevent you from sounding silly, and you’re fighting hard against it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Are you going to let me talk, Bill? You’re making a bunch of ad hominem attacks because I think I’ve got your back against the wall, and I’ll tell you why. When I first asked you why you’re defending AOC teaching illegals how to avoid ICE deportation, you first said, I’m not doing that. And then when I read from the article in the National Review and we went through the actual specifics of what she’s doing, she’s clearly doing that. And then you pivoted, and then you realized how silly you sounded in defending it.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re comparing apples and oranges, Mike.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me get personal with you. What do you do for a living? Okay, let’s get personal. What do you do for a living? I keep milk cold. You keep milk cold? I do supermarket refrigeration. I got it. So you’re not a lawyer? And I’m not saying this to insult you. You’re not a lawyer? No, I’m not. I’m a big mouth talk show host. In fact, I probably think there’s areas you’re better at keeping milk cold than I am. There’s a lot of things you’re probably smarter than I am at. What I don’t understand is why you want to push back against Trump’s agenda. That’s all. I don’t. You do. And I’m not. You are.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m all for Trump’s agenda. You’re not. Again, look at my page. Everybody’s welcome to check me out on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know what you mean about your page. I’m very pro-Trump agenda. What do you think? All right. You’re making ad hominem attacks. Final question. You’re suggesting that I am doing things that I’m clearly not doing. Final question, Bill. What do you think Trump would think of what AOC is doing? I think he would agree with me that it’s terrible. All right, Bill. Nice to talk to you. I’ll bet he will. You too, Mike. We’ll talk again. We agree on most things. We’ll see. And I have a hunch he’s going to speak out against AOC. And when he does, you make sure you call me back. You make sure you let me know. Thanks, Bill. I think Bill’s a guy that’s kind of a, which is, again, smart guy, and he was a good sport to come back on. He’s got a page. He’s got a site. He’s got an agenda, you know, and the agenda is to try to thwart or push back against Trump’s mission. And that’s all – we can’t be about that. We’ve got to be about – I mean, here’s what Pam Bondi said about anybody tipping off or trying to subvert the effort of the mass deportation that is underway in America right now.
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The great men and women in law enforcement standing behind me today, they deserve, they must be protected. And anytime anyone leaks or tips off anything regarding a pending investigation, that jeopardizes lives. You’re telling a bad guy what’s about to happen. It could jeopardize the lives of all the men and women in law enforcement. We will not stand for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And incidentally, Bill’s position could also jeopardize lives because AOC is teaching illegals to not cooperate with federal agents. It’s the same thing as when you fight back against a cop in the alley or you push back because you don’t want to get the speeding ticket or you physically attack. That’s jeopardizing lives. But to Bill’s call. And we’ll put a button on this, and then we’ve got to move on because we’ve got other things to cover. Here’s Tom Holman. This is Tom Holman talking about AOC, Bill’s hero, Bill’s champion, Bill’s legal pillar of virtue. Here’s Tom Holman, the border czar, on what AOC is doing.
SPEAKER 01 :
Tom, you got AOC out there, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Congresswoman, putting out a webinar, doing a webinar to help illegals avoid, I guess, apprehension, giving tips about how to continue to remain in the country and ultimately gain the system.
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And I sent an email today to the Deputy Attorney General. At what level is that impediment? Is that impediment? I’m not an attorney. I’m not a prosecutor. Is that impediment? Is that impeding our law enforcement efforts? If so, what are we going to do about it? Is she crossing the line? So I’m working with the Department of Justice and finding out where is that line that they crossed. So maybe AOC is going to be in trouble now, but I need the AOG to opine on that because there’s a… Impedement is impediment, in my opinion. I’m not a prosecutor, but we need some further guidance on that. But again, if we have to take every federal dollar out of the city, we’ll do it. I mean, we’re done.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m with Tom Holman, and again, Bill in Jersey, the milk guy’s a great guy. If it’s between Bill in Jersey with his blog or whatever he’s got, or Tom Holman, I’m with Tom Holman. But a good debate. Good debate, and glad we’re having it here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you. Thank you.
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The Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 10 :
New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens. It stops, it stops today. As you know, we sued Illinois, and New York didn’t listen. So now, you’re next.
SPEAKER 13 :
In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here’s Mike.
SPEAKER 03 :
This morning I talked to my friend Mark Davis in Dallas about The interim police chief who is proudly telling citizens of Dallas that the Dallas Police Department will not cooperate with ICE. Interesting story that came to mind when I heard about this social justice warrior. He’s an interim police chief. And he wants the top job permanently. How in the world would anybody even consider giving him the full-time police chief position in Dallas, Texas? This guy told a gathering the other night, we do not intend to cooperate with ICE. We’re not going to cooperate with federal agencies. who are involved in this. I mean, there is a pushback. We knew there would be against Trump’s mass deportation that he promised on the campaign trail. We voted for it. It’s why he won. But people like this interim police chief in Dallas and people like AOC and Governor Gavin Newsom, they don’t like it. Newsom is vowing to veto a bill that would block his state’s prison system from cooperating with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, according to a report. So there’s a step in the right direction. The bill argues that when California’s jails and prisons voluntarily and unnecessarily transfer immigrant and refugee community members, they subject these community members to double punishment. So the bill would block prisons from cooperating with ICE. Newsom says he’s going to veto that. That’s called progress. Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, was on the couch today sitting next to Tom Holman. I thought I was having a stroke. I thought this whole thing about my… constricted blood vessels in my brain were coming completely to fruition. Do we have that clip of Eric Adams and Tom Holman together talking about this mass deportation effort? Check this out.
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Governor Holko is in an embarrassment position she holds. She stands on media after someone’s burned alive on a subway. She stands in front of a TV camera and says, I think criminal aliens should be removed too. But she’s got the green light law. The men and women of ICE and Border Patrol, when they pull a vehicle, law enforcement, you were in law enforcement your whole career. What’s the first thing you do? You run the license plate number. Are these wanted? Is there a warrant for these people? Who are they? Are they dangerous? Is that car stolen? All these things, right? Right. Do you know ICE and CBP can’t run DMV data on New York State license plate? So they’re pulling on people not even know who the hell they are. Is that the green light law? The green light law. So she, on one point she’s saying, well, I think criminals should be removed too, but then she locks us out of DMV data. That’d be like us locking officers out of the NCIC, the fed zone. Would we do that? No, because officer safety is paramount. She’s putting the men and women at risk every day. The job’s already dangerous. So Governor Hochul, she needs to be removed. Everybody needs to be removed. It needs to be her.
SPEAKER 03 :
And there’s Mayor Eric Adams sitting next to him, nodding his head. I mean, it’s crazy. The Dallas Police Department, according to FoxNews.com, the Dallas Police Department has begun hosting a series of outreach meetings informing immigrant communities that the agency will not take part in any deportation raids or arrests. that are currently being carried out by the Trump administration. At least five meetings are taking place. The interim Dallas police chief, Michael Igoe, said the Dallas Police Department is not assisting any federal agency on detaining people who are either documented or undocumented. Igoe, who wants the full-time gig in Dallas, told Spanish-speaking parishioners that his department would not turn in or report anyone here illegally. I need you guys, he said, to continue to call the police, to not be afraid to come out of your homes to go to work, to send our kids to school. He reassured the parishioners, according to Fox News, that no arrests or raids would be conducted in churches, schools, or hospitals. Well, that’s great, Chief Igoe. So you want churches, schools, and hospitals to be sanctuary havens for illegals. Hey, the message is being heard loud and clear in Dallas, Texas. You don’t want to be deported? Just hang out in a school. Or go to the emergency room for some sniffles. Wait there in the ER. This IGO character, the interim police chief in Dallas, took to X this week to relay his message that the Dallas Police Department would not cooperate with federal immigration officials. There’s no room for fear in our community, he wrote. Oh, really? So people who broke the law, you’re telling us, are fearful. But you don’t want them to be fearful. Huh. Okay. Good to know. Good to know. Pam Bondi is telling people like Chief Igoe and others, Tom Holman is saying to the AOCs of the world who are aiding and abetting illegal immigrants, you could be in big trouble. You might wind up on the wrong end of this in a big way. They are absolutely wrong. Desperate, and they’re wrong. AOC’s holding webinars advising illegals how to avoid deportation. Look, it’s a new day, a new dawn. Sean’s in Manchester, New Hampshire, 20 minutes before the hour. One open line, 800-655-MIKE. Hi, Sean, how are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Mike. And I think these people are giving themselves away that they support this illegal invasion of America. And it’s the First Amendment shows us people how stupid they are when they speak. That’s one of the benefits of having the First Amendment. And I also believe that affirmative action race quotas have to go. It’s really destroyed our society altogether. And we really we got to support these illegals. We got to remember, too, a lot of tax fraud involved. They take the child credit. They take all kinds of individual deductions with phony Social Security or personal tax numbers. And they’re robbing us blind.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, Sean, let me let me ask you something. Did you tell my screener that you’re a first time Republican voter? Is that true?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
The first time. Wow. You know, I’m from New England. Sure. I’m from New England. Come on.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know how it is. I do. I know. Oh, my dad was from Boston. I remember Massachusetts. I remember I lived I lived in New York City for years. I know what New Englanders are like, but you just decided enough of the Democrat votes. You got to vote Republican, huh?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I wasn’t really what we call a flaming liberal, but, you know, we tend to lean. But New Hampshire, where I am, remember, the person with the most votes in the state in November was the Republican candidate for governor who won. Trump had good numbers in New Hampshire. You can bring New Hampshire back. And that’s something that Republicans have to look at.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we can bring America back, Sean, and welcome to the party. I’m glad you voted Republican. And more and more people are just like you, saying enough, it isn’t working. The Democrat experiment is failing. The experiment is over. And now we’ve got the grownups back in charge. I love it. I love every minute of it. 800-655-MIKE.
SPEAKER 15 :
mike gallagher every day mike visits with mark davis morning host on 6 60 a.m the answer in dallas here’s today’s eminem experience radio is sort of done by satellite so that’s why it always sounds like mike is sitting right here in the room with me even though he has been historically in new york uh he has been it’s how he joins us from south carolina or dc wherever he is but mike lives now of course on the gulf of america Right there in St. Pete and goes across the bridge to Tampa to do the show from the radio station there. And, of course, there’s a video component with the Salem News Channel. So he tapes that and runs it during his show, and that’s how we do the X feed, the live feed, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So you notice the key thing here is there’s a video component, right? And that means that my Skype connection goes boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then I see Mike’s happy face and he sees mine, usually by about 728. So it got to be 728, 729, 730. No Skype, no Mike, no Mike, no Skype. And that’s like something, something is happening here. My text fires up and says, give me the phone number. I need to call you. I need to do the hit on the phone. Whenever Mike has to do the hit on the phone, something has happened. Let’s find out what. With more, here’s Mike.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome, my friend. Okay, so this is one for the ages. Do you remember Chevy Chase did a series of vacation movies? Yes. And there’s a famous scene that I’m thinking of this morning. You remember when he and Rusty and the family were in the car, and they kept trying to get off on the exit, and they could never get the exit. I think it was European vacation, and he was on a roundabout, remember? Yes. And he kept going round and round the roundabout for hours. He could not get over to get to the exit to get off to where they wanted to go. And it was one of the funniest scenes. Mark… I was a half block from the radio station. Right. They are tearing up all the roads around the radio station. The very rude construction guy says, nope, you can’t go there. I said, I’m right there. I’m pointing to the office. I said, I’m right there. He said, you’re right there. I said, I’m right there. He goes, you’re right there. It was like a sketch. I got Henny Youngman, the construction worker.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or who’s on first with Abbott and Costello?
SPEAKER 03 :
you’re right there i’m right there you’re right there he goes turn around and take your butt and go the other way so i had a few choice words for him meanwhile now i can’t find the office i’m now chevy chase trying to get because there’s there’s only one like driveway i am now back on the howard franklin going the wrong direction i’m 18 miles going the wrong direction And I’m just laughing because I cannot believe that I was that close, and I had to have, you know, the John Belushi of construction workers tell me to turn my butt around and go the other way. So I may not make it for the show at 10.05. I don’t know. I’m driving up and down the highway. I’m like a pilgrim coming over on the Mayflower. I’m driving. I’m trying to find the promised land, and I may or may not get there. And I had so much to talk about.
SPEAKER 15 :
Inquiring minds want to know, Clark. Inquiring minds want to know, as you sat there and visited with the power-tripping construction guy, you were in the shadow of the radio station, and you said, look, it’s right there. Right there is where I need to go. Okay, that’s fine. If there is a navigable way to get there, if he had been more accommodating, could he have let you through to where we would not be enjoying this fun right now?
SPEAKER 03 :
By the third time that we said to each other, he said, well, right there. I said, right there. I know he could have let me go through. He just wasn’t going to. And I was probably a little bit of a jerk.
SPEAKER 15 :
See, that’s what I was going to say. Are there lessons in this? Because it sounds like, and this may be hard for the public to believe, you might have copped a toad with the guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. Shocking. Shocking. And then I started to say, I have a show. That’s exactly it. That’s where I was going next. Do you know who I am? Well, no, it’s not that you know who I am, but do you know who Mark Davis is? The urgency, yes, of course. Do you know who Mark Davis is? I’ve gotten to do a hit with my buddy Mark Davis, and I’ve got so much to talk to him about.
SPEAKER 15 :
Don’t drag me into this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I am dying to ask you about the interim Dallas sheriff. Oh, okay. Unbelievable. What a story. So we’ve got to go there. So forget it. Look, I hope the guy doesn’t come find my car and key it because of the few choice words I had for him. Because you know what? And again, now I have no idea where I am. You should hear Tracy try to tell me how to get to the radio station. I’ve only worked here for five years. I don’t know how to get there. I have no idea. Parking lots, frontage roads. She says, are you on the frontage road by the building? I said, there’s nothing but frontage roads and buildings here. What are you talking about? So I’m a little fired up. And then I got to read about the interim Dallas police chief. He wants the job, right? Michael, whatever his name is, Hugo. Yep, yep, yep. Now, you’ve got to explain this to me, Mark. He’s holding community meetings bragging about how the Dallas Police Department will not cooperate with ICE and with the efforts to expel illegal immigrants from Dallas.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let me give you the quote. I know, I know. Let me give everybody the quote. This, indeed, is Michael Igoe, who is the interim chief. Quote, the Dallas Police Department is not assisting any federal agency or On detaining people that are either documented or undocumented in the city of Dallas. And he did this at one of these meetings. I’ve been noticing and all the local TV folks go cover it. They should cover it. But there’s been a kind of a cheerleading aspect to it. It’s been a little weird. It’s like, hey, here’s a meeting where you can skirt ice enforcement or evade the nasty ice guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
AOC is doing it. AOC is pulling town halls, telling people how to avoid it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely. He made sure to reassure Spanish-speaking residents that his police officers would also not report anybody who is there illegally and calls 911 for help or gets pulled over for a traffic violation. I’m going to give one sliver of grace here. If somebody is calling 911 because some horrible crime is happening and somebody can prevent a murder, I’m prepared not to lie awake at night and worry about that person’s immigration status. But traffic stops? You pull somebody over and you discover that they’re in the country illegally? Hello, deportation. This is woke, woke policing. And I’d love to know what freshly minted Republican mayor Eric Johnson has to say about it. I know what the people, I know what… thinking people ought to say about it, and that’s that it’s an outrage.
SPEAKER 03 :
Who does Michael Igoe report to? Who does city commission? The city manager?
SPEAKER 15 :
The city manager hires everybody. The council has things to say. But it’s Dallas. It’s Dallas. What does that mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
Dallas gets to break the law? Dallas gets to break the law?
SPEAKER 15 :
Dallas doesn’t care if such laws are flouted. It’s a big blue city.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, guess what? Big blue cities are going to F.A.F.O. I’m telling you, Tom Holman. I mean, I mean, where’s Ken Paxton on this? Where’s the governor? Where’s Governor Abbott on this? I mean, I’m not kidding you. This is outrageous. I’m reading this and I’m thinking, wait a minute. You don’t get to flout. You don’t get to flaunt. And break the law. Flout. Flute. You don’t get to… I’m a little fired up today. Now I’m on another front of the road.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now I’m in a parking lot.
SPEAKER 03 :
He’s in Orlando.
SPEAKER 15 :
He’s actually arrived at Wally World.
SPEAKER 03 :
I cannot find the exit, Clark and Rusty. I can’t find the exit. You don’t get to do this, Mark. You just don’t. Ideally not. And this… And I mean it. I’m not trying to be a smart aleck. He’s going to futz around and he’s going to find out. Look, can you make an argument against arresting him? Can you make an argument against arresting AOC? AOC is holding town hall meetings and holding Zoom conferences to tell people how to avoid ICE detection. I mean, it’s the same as harboring a criminal. How do you get away with this?
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, is it? Because I don’t like it any more than you do, but we had a little… Fun, if that’s the term yesterday, talking about whether this is like a radar detector that, you know, the avoidance of enforcement is a little bit of tradition to it in American life. And it’s not like we’re harboring illegals with the police at the door or nobody in this house. It’s telling them where the enforcement is. It’s it’s it’s. Terrible. It is a middle finger to law enforcement and to the notion of the rule of law. Are they themselves breaking the law by doing it? That’s an interesting legal question.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t think the analogy holds. I don’t think it’s an anti-radar detector, Mark. I think that’s a weak analogy. It is against the law. It is a federal crime. And let me ask you a question. If the feds come in to downtown Dallas with an arrest warrant, a federal arrest warrant, you’re going to tell me that the local police, the Dallas police, are going to take a position? Well, we’re not going to cooperate with you.
SPEAKER 15 :
You have to have cooperation. He actually talked about that. Igo made sure to clarify that undocumented immigrants with criminal warrants are a different story. They’re criminals already.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I know that, and you know that.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know, I know, I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a distinction without a difference. I mean, Caroline Leavitt said it beautifully. One of the reporters said to her the other day, well, I mean, do you think it’s – she goes, they’re criminals as it is. It’s against the law to do what they’ve done. Correct. Why won’t Michael Igoe enforce the law?
SPEAKER 15 :
Because he – it’s funny. You know the answer to that question because he, with woke Democrat – illegal immigrant protecting points of view does not… The question to Caroline Levitt was, how many of these people that you guys are looking to deport have broken the law? And her answer was, all of them. All of them. Because to be in the country illegally is breaking the law. But they seek to establish a different goal line, a different place for the goalpost to be, that just being in the country illegally, not really a crime. If you’re a rapist or a murderer, okay, I guess we can be serious about you. But they’re looking to destigmatize… and legitimize simply being in the country illegally.
SPEAKER 03 :
So if we agree with Caroline Leavitt, and if we agree that all of them are breaking the law, Michael Igoe has taken an oath to uphold the law. One would think. Michael Igoe is under oath. He has sworn a duty to uphold the law. These people have broken the law, and he is telling them he’s not going to enforce it. I don’t know how. And again, all the excuses, well, it’s big blue Dallas. Oh, it’s not an excuse.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s an explanation, because you’re 100% right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. You’re 100 percent right. But it is. But it turns out to be an excuse because it’s a flimsy excuse. And Michael, I go, first of all, two things. Number one, he absolutely should not have a snowball chance of hell of getting the top job permanently. He wants it. He’s throwing his head in the ring. Baloney. Common sense prevail. And number two, I think there’s got to be accountability for the guy. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, there is maybe it maybe comes from Pam Bondi. She has taken action against Letitia James and Governor Kathy Hochul in New York for obstructing Trump’s desire to have immigration laws with teeth. And so from the state of New York to the city of Dallas to any other blue city, any other blue state, let the word go out that we’re not going to have obstructionists trying to prevent the law from being followed.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can’t wait until somebody asks Tom Holman about this police chief in Dallas, this interim police chief. I can’t wait until somebody asks Pam Bondi. I think I know the answer. These guys cannot do it, Mark. They can’t get away with this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Do you know where Holman was an hour and a fraction ago? Sitting on a couch on the Fox & Friends set. So no mystery there. I think Holman has his own suite at Fox & Friends. Guess who was sitting right there next to him talking all kinds of harmony? That would be New York City Mayor Eric Adams, who suddenly has realized, God bless Mayor Adams, the governor of New York is useless, but the mayor of New York has seen the light about the way his city is adversely affected by illegally.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you’re following the news about how Trump’s Justice Department has ordered all the charges to be dropped. Look, Trump is very big on loyalty.
SPEAKER 15 :
He’s very transactional. Very, very transactional.
SPEAKER 03 :
Loyalty matters to him. It’ll get you somewhere. I’m not kidding you now what I’m about to tell you. I am sitting, I swear to you, in a parking garage. And I don’t know how to get out of the parking garage to get to the office.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m in a parking garage. In the parking garage of the building where you’re trying to get?
SPEAKER 03 :
In the parking garage, they told me to cut through the lots to get to the back of the radio station. I took the wrong turn again while I’m talking to you and getting fired up about this goofy interim police chief, and now I’m in a parking garage.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so you are maybe 200 yards from the studio where you do the show, but there is great question as to whether you will actually be there.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m officially in an episode of The Twilight Zone. I don’t know. I’m driving. I’m driving. I’m driving. So let me – and here’s the great part. Tracy and Cassie just sent me a pin to my phone like I know what to do with a pin. How do I know? What do I do with it? Do I click on the pin? Do I watch the pin? Do I do the pin? Do I sing to the pin? This is insane. I’m not going to make it. I’m just going to just curl up here and take a nap.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m done. Welcome to Boomer Technological Adventures with Mike. We will let you navigate the rest of the way. We look forward to you being on the air via whatever method that might be. And happy Valentine’s Day to you.
SPEAKER 14 :
And happy Friday. And we’ll be ready. That’s Mike. That’s so awesome.
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