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from the heart of our nation’s capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation’s leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Canada intends to recognize the state of Palestine at the 80th session of the United Nations General Assembly in September 2025. Canada will increase its efforts in supporting strong democratic governance in Palestine and the contributions of its people to a more peaceful and hopeful future.
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That was Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney yesterday announcing that Canada will join France and the UK in recognizing a non-existent Palestinian state. Welcome to this July 31st edition of Washington Watch. I’m Tony Perkins, your host. Thanks for tuning in. Well, coming up, despite Hamas being responsible for initiating the war with Israel, much of the international pressure is falling on Israel. But earlier today, White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt set the record straight.
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The quickest way to end this entire conflict, the humanitarian crisis that we’ve seen and the crisis in Israel that, of course, started on October 7th when Hamas brutally kidnapped and raped innocent Israelis, that terrible terrorist attack, is for Hamas to surrender, to release all of the hostages and to end this conflict. And that’s what the president wants to see. He’s made that very clear.
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Well, he’s one of the few that is making the Hamas the focal point of the problem, which they are. North Dakota Senator Kevin Cramer will join us with more in just a moment. Also, Senate Republicans are threatening to recess, potentially opening the door for President Trump to make recess appointments and break through the Democratic-driven confirmation backlog. We’ll bring you the latest on that. And earlier today, Family Research Council hosted a roundtable discussion on combating anti-Semitism, a joint effort with the Conference of Christian Presidents for Israel. Luke Moon from CCPI will join us to recap the event. We’ll also discuss how federal policy on abortion pills is undermining state pro-life laws. We’ve been talking about that and we’ll continue to talk about it and how it can be fixed. Louisiana State Representative Julie Emerson will join us with more of what Louisiana is doing. And there’s encouraging news. Would you like some encouraging news? All right. Well, here’s some encouraging news on the marriage front. A new study shows divorce rates declining and modern marriages proving stronger than those in any decade since the 1950s. Yeah, that’s right. We’ll unpack that with the Washington Stan Suzanne Bowdy and Casey Harper a little bit later here on Washington Watch. That’s what’s coming up on this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. Let me encourage you, if you have not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, go to the App Store and download the Stand Firm app. That way you’ll have access to Washington Watch. We’re grateful for the 850-plus radio stations that carry Washington Watch and the TV platforms, partners with NRB TV and others. You might not be able to get a station or you might be traveling. And so get the Stand Firm app. That way you’ll have access to Washington Watch. But more than that, you’ll also have the Washington Stand, our news and commentary from the biblical perspective. You will also have my daily devotional, Stand on the Word. And you’ll have action items. Look, our republic was not made for spectators. It was made for participants. So get the Stand Firm app and be involved. A U.S. special envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, arrived in Israel earlier today and met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss the situation in Gaza. Tomorrow, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee is expected to join Witkoff in inspecting the aid distribution sites in Gaza. So while other nations are slamming Israel for the situation that Hamas created, the U.S. continues not only to come alongside our closest ally in the Middle East, but also deliver aid to Gazans. Joining me now to discuss this and more is U.S. Senator Kevin Cramer of North Dakota. Senator Cramer, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Always my pleasure. Thank you, Tony.
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So in the span of a little over a week, we’ve had France, the U.K., and now Canada roll out the fossilized two-state solution.
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What’s going on? Well, I think what’s going on is pressure from liberals in these various countries and unfortunately a successful propaganda campaign by terrorists of all people and I’m so disappointed in our friends in Canada because They’ve got to know better than to believe the propaganda of killers like Hamas, and that’s what frustrates me to no end. Not only did they start this issue, this problem, by the October attacks a couple of years ago, doing unthinkable things, of course, but they continue to do it by using phony pictures, by using children as shields and innocent people as shields. They’re the ones, remember, that are holding the hostages not Israel. I mean, you could go on and on and on to demonstrate the obvious evidence that Hamas are the bad guys here, Israel are the good folks here. And so it’s very frustrating to me that our friends in France and UK and Canada and others probably around the world have caved, if you will, to this propaganda campaign.
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But to roll out once again, I mean, this has been around since the late 1940s, right after Israel became a nation, you know, the Green Line, the description of the West Bank, which we’re talking about Judea and Samaria, which is the focal point of the two-state solution, the creation of a Palestinian state in the heart of Israel. Was not October the 7th the result of a de facto two-state solution?
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I think that’s an absolutely perfect illustration of what we’re talking about. That’s why there’s only one way to deal with Hamas. That’s to eliminate them. And either that or for them to just surrender, throw up their arms. Because you’re right, they’ve already demonstrated what the outcome is of a two-state solution. That’s what Gaza, in many respects, was. And so I don’t know how you fix this as long as there’s Hamas around. And I don’t know how you fix Hamas as long as you have They have sympathizers in places like Canada, the UK, and other parts of Europe.
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All right, Senator Cramer, I want to turn to some other hostages, and that is the president’s nominees that are being held hostage by Democrats there on the Senate. I mean, we’re having close to, I think, 140 or more that are being blocked. All right, what’s the latest?
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So what’s happening right now, of course, and make no mistake, these are the Democrats holding these nominations hostage. And we’ve never seen anything like this. We’ve seen things similar, but nothing quite like this, where literally, Tony, up to this point, six months into the administration, Democrats have allowed exactly zero Donald Trump nominees to go to confirmation with anything other than a full roll call vote through cloture and filibuster.
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That means that we can only— Let me just stop you right there so people understand. Oftentimes, these beyond cabinet secretaries, most of these are by consensus. We just agree that, all right, we’re just going to go ahead and have a vote. We’re not going to use up all the time that’s allowed by the rules, correct? Correct.
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That’s right. That’s right. But of course, Donald Trump’s different, right? Because he’s so bad and they’re so offended by him that somehow they’re just going to do everything they can to block these people, including nominees that came out of the committees with large bipartisan, by large bipartisan votes. By this point, four years ago, in Joe Biden’s first six months, Republicans had allowed 46 nominees to be confirmed by either unanimous consent or a voice vote. Democrats have allowed exactly none in this Trump term. And that’s never happened, by the way, ever in the history. And remembering, just to give some perspective too, remember there are about 1,200 nominees that require Senate confirmation. So you’re talking about- That’s a lot. And maybe that’s too many, Tony. That’s another discussion. But at the same time, the Senate prerogative has never been abused like this. So what we’re working on now is both a negotiation on the one hand with our Democratic colleagues, while at the same time our rules change. Because the reality is what’s known as cloture, what’s known as filibuster, what’s known as the executive calendar, that’s the part of our job that confirms people, our job being senators, has never really required cloture or the filibuster, allowed the filibuster before. So it may be time to just pull that bandaid off and say this isn’t working anymore. And yes, Democrats will do the same thing when they’re confronted with the opportunity, perhaps when the tables are turned. But we’ve always believed, Tony, that we as Republicans, as conservatives, that the president that wins the election is largely entitled to their government. And while we have the right and the responsibility of advising consent as senators, and we run them through the background checks and the hearings and all of that cross-examination, the key is to not abuse it just because Donald Trump’s the president or just because Bill Clinton or Barack Obama are the president. We’ve never done that before. They are now doing it. And so maybe it’s just broken. We have to do something.
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Senator, the confirmation is… in the process of advice and consent is to be focused on the nominee and issues that the nominee may have, not the president. The president was elected by the American people. So this is driven not by the nominees. It’s driven by the president. It doesn’t matter what the nominee is about. It’s about the president. Now, the Republicans historically have used it selectively for nominees who are way outside the mainstream, correct? That’s right.
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That’s right.
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And that’s how it’s historically been used.
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And that’s how it’s historically been. But just to give another historical perspective, if you go back to Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, a very, at the time, controversial, confrontational nomination process who actually only was confirmed by a 52 to 48 vote in the United States Senate, was not filibustered. In other words, one Democratic senator, like, say, Joe Biden or Ted Kennedy, could have stopped that process and required 60-vote margin. They did not, because that’s just not something you did at the time. And so here we are all these years later, and they’re doing it over the associate deputy assistant secretary’s secretary. And it’s insane.
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We saw it with George W. Bush. They began to block many of the judicial appointments because I remember I was here. We went through a lot of that. But now it’s every nominee. I mean, the president could be choosing a dog catcher for Washington, D.C., and they would block him.
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That’s right. And the abuse of it, Tony, has other ramifications to your point about the really controversial ones or the ones that are so far out of the mainstream. Because what’s happened is by choosing this way of going about the process, What Democrats are doing is that they’re making it a shirts and skins game. And in a shirts and skins game, then that means that Republicans are going to support all of the nominees and the Democrats are going to oppose all of the nominees. And once the tables are turned, it’ll be the other way around. Rather than doing the type of diligence and saving your political capital, Tony, for things that matter. And that’s what I find frustrating.
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Well, Senator also further divides the country. I mean, it’s polarizing when we see these things. So is there a chance that the Senate will go into an extended recess and allow the president to make these appointments?
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Well, that is one of the options, right? So when we talk about options, we could change the rules and eliminate the filibuster and culture altogether for the president. this calendar, particularly say below a cabinet secretary level. That’s a possibility. We could shorten the time from two hours to one hour. Although I think if you’re gonna change the rules, rip the bandaid off altogether and make it a simple majority and stack votes. The real key would be to find a way to get back to end block voting. So maybe put 25 or 50 of them up for a voice vote all at once and save days of time rather than every two hours having a vote. And the other way, of course, would be exactly what you’re talking about, and that is to recess. The thing about recess appointments is it’s hard to recess. It takes both chambers to do it. The House would have to come back. Again, we could do that. A recess vote is amendable. So you end up with a lot of other sort of bureaucratic, swampish stuff. But it is one of the options that are on the table, and we’re considering all of them because we have to do something. We have to fix our government and give this president the government that he deserves. He, after all, did win the election.
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Right. Senator Kramer, always great to have you on the program. Thanks for bringing us up to date on what’s happening there on Capitol Hill in the swamp. Thank you, Tony. All right. All right, folks, stick with us. When we come back, we’re going to be talking about states trying to protect the unborn. That’s next. Don’t go away.
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Well, thank you, Tony. You know it’s always nice to be with a fellow Louisianian, so I appreciate you.
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Well, Louisiana, thank you. I commend you on your efforts. Louisiana has long been leading the effort on the life issue. And this is one of those areas where Louisiana was one of the first states that had a trigger law. As soon as Roe was overturned, Louisiana was rock solid on the life issue. But now it is being… completely nullified by these abortion pills. What are you doing in working with state officials to try to stop this?
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Well, Tony, like, absolutely. Louisiana has always been a very strong pro-life state. We actually signed a trigger law into law over 20 years ago, actually. I believe Kathleen Blanco was governor when that happened. And then, of course, when Roe was overturned, we tightened that up. back in 2021 and made sure that we were ironclad and that Louisiana stood for life and to make sure that everyone knew that we wanted to shut down abortion facilities in this state. And we did that thankfully very easily because we’ve always had a pro-life legislature. And again, actually a Democrat governor ended up signing it because they know that Louisiana is a pro-life state. But unfortunately over the last couple of years since we’ve done that, We have so many out-of-state providers who have found these loopholes in our law to be able to mail these abortion drugs into Louisiana. And unfortunately, there was a case recently from a doctor in New York who actually had a telehealth call with the mother of a patient, not even the patient herself, and ended up shipping those abortion drugs into Louisiana. I’m sure you probably saw on the news, Tony, I know you were following we did try to hold her accountable, but Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York, said absolutely she will not send her to Louisiana to face charges. And so unfortunately, we were not able to hold her criminally liable. And so this year, of course, we can’t make it retroactive in that situation, but this year, I worked with another representative, a freshman representative, actually. She was very bold in taking this stance. But she and I co-authored this bill to make sure that we sent a clear message to out-of-state doctors, do not send abortion pills here or you can now be held civilly liable. We were the first state in the country to pass civil penalties on those rogue doctors that were, as our attorney general described it, a drug dealer. Because frankly, you’re not able to give those pills to someone. A doctor in Louisiana cannot give those pills to a woman to have an elective abortion. Of course, you and I know that those medications are used to induce labor and they’re used safely under a doctor’s care. But when they are misused and misappropriately used to cause an abortion, you can’t have that here in Louisiana. So very proud of our legislature, very proud of our governor for putting this into law and becoming the first state to do so.
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So, Julie, the battle to protect the unborn continues. I mean, despite the victory in the Supreme Court over in the Dobbs case, the pro-abortion community continues to try to circumvent the laws.
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Absolutely. Look, I mean, obviously overturning Roe was a huge victory for us, those of us that truly believe in life and fight for life every single day. But as you said, the journey was just beginning there because, of course, now we flip the script where constantly the pro-abortionists out there are trying to add in more exceptions, erode our laws, find loopholes. And, you know, I think they did with this opening here of these out-of-state doctors being able to ship these pills into Louisiana. But thankfully, we discovered it early, worked with our attorney general’s office. I can’t say enough amazing things about her. Liz Merle has been a great attorney general fighting for life right there alongside us. And so thankfully, she joined forces with us. She came to committee to testify on this bill. And certainly, you know, we always expect when we do something like this that, The pro-abortionists out there are going to try to come say that it’s wrong or unconstitutional or something like that. But the attorney general was sitting right next to us saying, I have no problems defending this. We can absolutely defend this in court. So very thankful for her stance and her support in this as well.
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Well, Julie, I want to thank you for your leadership there in Louisiana and helping bring attention to this nationally. And I hope many other states follow your leads. And thanks so much for joining us today.
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Thank you, Tony. It’s a pleasure.
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Julie Emerson from Louisiana. You can weigh in as well, folks. Text the word LIFE to 67742 and sign the petition to the president. He can fix this overnight. That’s LIFE to 67742. All right, don’t go away. We’re back right after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. All right. A recently released report that tracked incidents of anti-Semitism on college campuses found a tenfold increase in anti-Semitic activity during the last school year compared to the school year prior to the October 7th attack on Israel. The 2,334 incidents reported by Hillel International last week was the highest ever since the Jewish Campus Organization started tracking back in 2019. So a figure that was once in the low hundreds is now in the thousands. Now, the question is, is this the new norm? Why is it this way? What’s fueling it? And are some conservative voices and influencers now fueling this rise? Here to discuss this with me in studios, Luke Moon, executive director of the Philos Project. Luke has lived, worked, and taught in over 45 countries and has advocated on a number of human rights issues along the way, including that of Israel and the Jewish people. Luke, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining me. Thank you very much for having me. It’s an honor. And we’ve been in Israel together, traveled with you to Israel, so we know the landscape there. We do. This is a passion of yours. So let me just go put this question before you. Why the rise? What’s going on? What’s fueling this?
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Well, I think it’s a lot of things. I think there is a growing sense of frustration among Gen Z, having grown up in a point where they had COVID hit them right when they’re in their very formative years, followed up by Black Lives Matter, followed by the DEI push. And in that process, there was a lot of effort like, oh, you got to
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You know the Jews are suffering the Jews are victims like that victim Isn’t that kind of what we saw in history with the plagues when the plagues broke out? They wanted to blame the Jewish people for it.
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They do but you have this there is a sense I think particularly among Gen Z of Reacting to what they see as being kind of told to care about they’re told to care about you got to care about the you know, African-Americans because they were once slaves in America, Jim Crow and all that. And then you have to care about the Jews because they had the Holocaust once upon a time. And so you have these kids who are grown up in this where other people are kind of told you got to care for this special group of people. And at the same time, they’re told to sit back, be quiet, shut up, go back to your games. What are you doing? Nobody cares about you. And so it’s this reaction to what they see. So they see that other people are spectral and they’re not. They’re not. And then they’re told. There’s an envy root here.
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I think it’s very… But let me specifically go, generally speaking, I think that there’s a lot of merit in that, but let’s talk specifically about Christian, evangelical kids, because there’s not a big difference in those numbers. When you look at where evangelical Gen Zers come down on the issue and millennials.
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Right. There was just a friend of mine put out a survey recently among southern church attending men. And it was asked, should U.S. be involved with Israel in attacking Iran? And overwhelmingly, yes. The majority of people between the ages of 18 and 29 said we have no responsibility to Israel. Southern church-going Christians.
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Okay. Are those churches teaching what the Bible has to say about the Jewish people and about Israel?
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I doubt it. Because I tell you, one of the things that I saw over the years, I took a group of top church planters from the Southern Baptist Israel back in 2017. And I remember sitting around the table with them, and I asked them, when was the last time you taught out of the book of Revelation? And they said, almost to all of them, I don’t. Because there was a, the Left Behind series that, you know, was so popular in the aughts, created a reaction to it by people who are like, oh, I don’t agree with that’s how it plays out. It wasn’t necessarily replaced by any kind of major theology, and it was just an abdication, right? And so you have pastors who are not teaching out of the book of Revelation, which means that, which is a core part of it. They’re not unloading. They must not be teaching the Old Testament either. Well, most likely. And they’re also not offering a… a cohesive theology of which Israel and the Jewish people are still part of God’s covenantal plan for the world.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, we just have about a minute and a half left, Luke. So where are these young people listening? Who are they listening to? I mean, this used to be all coming from the left, but now we see it from the right.
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Well, I think they’re being catechized by the manosphere, which is like the Andrew Tate kind of crowd and this guy. You get Tucker Carlson. You have Theo Vaughn. You have those types of voices who are catechizing the young men and showing them how to think about the world, how to think about foreign policy, how to think about women and family and all this formation stuff. And we got to get back in that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so where do you suggest that people go to find out more about Israel and their role in God’s plan for them?
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Well, I started an organization called Generation Zion, actually, for that very thing, to point to why Christians should and must stand with Israel and Jewish people. It is part of God’s redemptive plan for the world. And what’s your website? gen-zion.org. And then I would also suggest they go to the Bible.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s 100% true. Because the Bible, from start to finish, talks about God’s plan for Israel, the Jewish people, and the covenant that we’re actually grafted into. We don’t replace them.
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We get the benefit of what God did with the Jewish people. And that’s a beautiful thing. And we should be very proud of that opportunity.
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And thankful, grateful. And as Paul says, we shouldn’t be arrogant about it because you know what? You know, we’re grafted in. They’re the main thing.
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Exactly.
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Luke Moon, thanks for joining us today. Of course, thanks for having me. I appreciate the work you do.
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Appreciate it.
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All right, folks, check out the website. Also, check out the Bible, right? In fact, we’re going to talk about that next, so don’t go away.
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Sure. I mean, these photos are very powerful. You look at history in the Boston Massacre, a picture, the painting of it done by Paul Revere actually helped spark the revolution. It was a propaganda poster of the Boston Massacre. If you think about other wars, pictures are very powerful. We’re seeing that again here. You know, I’ve been a journalist for many years now, since before Suzanne was born. And there’s two ways to be biased.
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Speaking of misinformation.
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There’s our first, you go, boom.
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Set up a journalist. Set up a journalist.
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The first thing wasn’t untrue. So I’ve been a journalist for a long time. And there’s two ways to be misleading or inaccurate. And people always think of the first, which is to say something not true. That’s what we saw in this photo. It gave the impression that there’s someone starving. There’s more to the story, a medical condition. The other way to be biased, which is less known, is to leave details out. and to be selective in what you leave out. So you’re technically, there’s no fact check, there’s no correction you have to issue. You can’t say that you lied, you just didn’t tell the truth. Exactly, and that’s what we see most commonly. We see the leaving out of the culpability of Hamas.
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Okay, so in this particular picture, and doing a little research myself on this, the mother, who was perfectly healthy, and the child’s brother, who was also perfectly healthy, not malnourished, was cropped out of the picture. Right.
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Yeah, and if you see the full photo, the boy looks fine. The brother looks like a normal child.
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Right. Yeah. So, I mean, you just don’t see the whole picture. So it is, again, they didn’t tell a lie.
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They just didn’t tell the truth. Exactly. And, you know, it’s… There’s not a lot of good faith on this issue left anymore because so many of those criticizing Israel just have motives that go beyond just trying to get to the truth. They’re past that point. They don’t think Israel should exist. And so while there is a conversation to be had about the humanitarian situation in Gaza that I think we can talk about, The people who are criticizing Israel, they don’t necessarily care about that. They just want to use whatever they can against Israel.
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I was just talking with Johnny Moore, who’s a longtime friend who’s overseeing the humanitarian relief effort the United States is doing. Tomorrow, they will hit 100 million meals delivered in two months into Gaza.
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And yet the people are starving.
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There’s only like a million people in Gaza. I know. Right. I mean, we are sending it. And he told me, he said, you know, we got in there and there were hundreds of truckloads just sitting there that was never delivered. The United Nations didn’t deliver. I mean, it’s just it is so. It’s just deceptive. It’s hypocrisy. Suzanne, I have to say, this is driven by a hatred. It’s this Jewish hatred.
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Right, and they’re playing right into the terrorists’ hands. And you’d think after all of these misleading stories, wouldn’t the New York Times and others want to get their facts straight? Did they not want to be credible? Incredible. What is the hidden agenda here? And it’s costing lives. I mean, you’ve seen what’s happened with international policy. You put a picture of a starving child up and suddenly France, the UK, now Canada. We’ve just seen today Canada supporting a two-state solution, which is a death sentence from Israel.
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I mean, OK. The two-state solution, were they asleep? Have they been asleep since, are they Rip Van Winkle? Have they been asleep since October the 7th? That is the two-state solution.
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Right, right. It doesn’t work. Imagine after 9-11 if we’d said, oh, let’s give the Taliban and al-Qaeda their own land right next to the United States. Who would have thought that was? Let’s give them Ohio. Right, hey. Well, I don’t know about Ohio. California, maybe we could agree on California.
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They might already be there.
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Right, they might, but it’s absurd. what they’re proposing.
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But it’s not just these foreign actors like UK, Canada. Canada is really surprising. UK, France, I mean, they’re being overrun by immigration from Islamist. Okay, so I think they’re pandering. They’re trying to hold on to their power. Canada, I’m a little surprised. Well, not surprised, it’s Canada. But let’s talk about here at home. I mean, we’re seeing now divisions, Casey, within the GOP.
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Yeah, well, one thing on that picture, Trump himself, he said he broke with Netanyahu about the starvation issue, and he said, quote, based on television, those children look very hungry. I mean, he said, quote, based on television. So you cannot understate the impact of this false photo, the direct impact of the president.
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By the way, we’re a visual people.
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Easy for you to say. Exactly, right.
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Listen to me. Don’t watch me. Listen to me. So, you know, actually, people watch TV. They don’t listen to it. Right. And people don’t read the paper anymore. So pictures are what capture people’s attention.
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And the president famously watches a lot of TV. He watches a lot and drinks a lot of Diet Coke. There you go. Well, hey, can’t blame him on the second. But there is a rift in the Republican Party that is growing. It’s been there, but I think this recent photo has really helped crack it wide open in a lot of ways. You have not too many lawmakers, but a lot of the most viral voices in the Republican Party and in the conservative base who have become very critical of Israel. In some cases, you know, straight out anti-Semitic. Well, there’s a few reasons. One, they’ve just become totally anti-war in pretty much all cases. And it started with a growing frustration over the Ukraine funding. an isolationist view? Yeah, they don’t like that word, but yeah, isolationist view. They got really frustrated about Ukraine funding, and then we started giving money to Israel. It felt like a betrayal. And so now they’re just biased against the whole thing and supporting Israel. And then they start drawing on history.
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So they see no difference between Israel and other nations?
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No, they don’t. They see actually Israel as parasitic. That’s the way they talk about it. The Israel that we choose. You’re talking about people on the right. Yeah, people like Tucker Carlson is a big voice. Like him or not, you cannot overstate the influence that Tucker has on the party right now. He puts something on YouTube. It’s viral every time. Yeah, it’s like a virus. Yeah, I mean, he is driving the conversation.
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Okay, you say that. I got a clip. I want to play a clip of him. This was at Charlie Kirk’s event, Turning Point USA, which Charlie Kirk gave him a platform to spew this anti-Semitic trope. Now let’s play clip number one.
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It’s extremely obvious to anyone who watches that this guy had direct connections to a foreign government. Now no one’s allowed to say that that foreign government is Israel because we have been somehow cowed- into thinking that that’s naughty, there is nothing wrong with saying that. There is nothing hateful about saying that. There’s nothing anti-Semitic about saying that. There’s nothing even anti-Israel about saying that.
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Okay, he’s talking about Jeffrey Epstein. And this has been out there, but it’s never been validated or verified by any respectable journalist that Epstein had ties to the Israeli government. CONNECTIONS, BUSINESS CONNECTIONS, BUT THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUSINESS CONNECTIONS WITH JEWISH PEOPLE. BUT NO, THERE ARE PEOPLE SPECULATING WHAT I THINK CARLSON WAS MAKING REFERENCE TO, THAT HE WAS CONNECTED TO THE MOSSAD. NO EVIDENCE OUT THERE.
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WHAT IS THIS? Well, alongside the frustration about the war, there’s a lot of frustration about the Epstein files. And I think because there hasn’t been the transparency that was asked for, when you have… So blame it on the Jews? Yeah, well, if you have hiddenness, people’s imaginations run wild.
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When there’s a secret, I think if there was just, like, transparency… I’m all for the Epstein files being released, but I’m not blaming the Jewish people for them not being released. That’s the Department of Justice and the Trump administration that needs to release them.
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Well, and this is really a Tucker thing. That theory was not very widespread. People have been skeptical of Epstein and want that out for a long time. But the idea that Mossad was driving it, that’s something Tucker himself has popularized.
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Is that the only anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli statement that Tucker’s made?
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I don’t know if I’m an expert on Tucker. He would totally disavow that he’s anti-Semitic. And, you know, that’s it’s hard to.
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So it’s kind of it was kind of going back to the pictures. It’s what you don’t say. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, and he he has this kind of bit where he’s like, I’m just asking questions and I’m raising these points. But look who he’s interviewed.
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Look who he’s interviewed on his. Dave Smith was a big one. Well, in his platform, he’s had Putin, he’s had, I think he had the… The Iranian president. Right, the Iranian president. But then when he had Ted Cruz on and Ted was defending Israel, he went after him, treated him a little bit different, did he not?
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Yeah, I think that’s one of the best criticisms of Tucker is that when he goes hard against someone, I think as, you know, if you say, well, you’re a journalist, I’m going to go hard against everyone, that’s respectable in a sense of if you want to go after Ted. I go easy on everybody.
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Right, right.
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You know, you could say, well, I’m going hard on tech because I’m a journalist. But then when you have the president of Iran and you don’t push back very hard, I think it was kind of a – he kind of made you suspicious. Not suspicious even of his motives, but just there’s something going on in the way he’s approaching these that’s not always fair to the larger truth, maybe more to the point he’s making.
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Okay, I got to move on here from anti-Semitic conservatives, and I want to go to some actually some good news. Yeah, shocking. Shocking, yeah.
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To report good news here on the show.
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But this is something that actually really began, I began working on at the very beginning of my political career on policy. I’ve always been more focused on policy than politics, and that is the issue of marriage. We’re seeing some actually some good developments when it comes to the upcoming generation and marriage.
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Right. And I think it’s really interesting that we’ve been so inundated with bad news. You know, we’re seeing this transgender agenda. We’re seeing the woke agenda. And what’s happening in the background of all this is that actually marriage is getting even stronger among those who are actually taking their vows. Brad Wilcox, who’s a good friend of the show, who’s a researcher,
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Whose research I used almost 30 years ago to do covenant marriage.
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Has found that, you know, since the 70s and 80s when no fault divorce was at its highest, divorce rates have actually dropped by 10 percent, which is huge. You know, we used to hear the same mantra over and again, one out of every two marriages and the divorce. Now that’s down to about 40 percent. And we’re also seeing some really important gains in communities like the black folks. family. We’re seeing more kids who are being raised with married black parents low income families. We have a graph here actually for those who can’t see this on the show. It shows the share of first marriages that are ending in divorce which as you can see just drops and drops and drops by each subsequent decade. And I think as a product of Gen X and, you know, no-fault divorce was at its height, when I grew up, I came from a divorced home. I think those of us that experienced it are very intentional now about wanting to preserve marriage. They feel very passionately about staying married. I think they experienced it, and I think the trauma of that has really resulted in a renewed commitment to this institution.
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I saw that with Covenant Marriage when we did that, is that those who… You know, one generation will put something off or devalue it. The next generation rediscovers it and puts a value on it. Although our marriage rates are still low.
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Right.
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So it’s a problem. We’ve got to get those up in marriages being delayed later into life, which is also a problem. But the good news is, is those who are marrying are staying married at a higher percentage. I mean, that’s that’s good news.
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Yeah, it is. I mean, the marriage rate’s down something like 60% in the last 50 years. So we’ve seen a total fall off in that generational fall off that you referred to. And just, you know, from people I know that are my age, I think they’re really suspicious and skeptical of marriage and don’t, especially if they’re not religious in any way, they don’t see a need for it. So as you said, those who do see it as important take it very seriously. And what’s more common for those who aren’t getting married is just kind of a serial monogamy. So they want monogamy and they want to live together. They want to do everything pertaining to marriage, except the vows before God, basically. And I think it’s funny that people still get married in churches, even if they don’t believe.
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It’s always been the case, because they want a sense of blessing upon that. But it’s more than the trappings of marriage that put the blessing on it. It is the covenant of marriage. It’s is that we started this segment, Jesus discussing the issue of marriage, its origins. And you know, we do so much better when we live by God’s design. Oh, that’s true.
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And the church could do a better job, too, in terms of just promoting marriage, de-emphasizing.
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There’s a fear in the church of offending people by talking about divorce because so many people in the church are divorced. And speaking of divorce doesn’t mean you’re against divorced people. Jesus spoke against divorce, but he wasn’t against divorced people. He cared deeply. And if we’re going to break these cycles, we have to teach the better way.
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Well, and also there’s stuff that goes into that, teaching more about the abstinence, premarital sex, de-emphasizing promiscuity. I mean, the church needs all of that feeds into a marriage. Why get married if you’re just living in sin?
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Well, we’re going to have to leave it at sin because we’re out of time. Casey, Suzanne, thanks for joining us. Folks, thank you for joining us as well. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, who says, when you’ve done everything you can do, when you’ve prayed, prepared, and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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