As the show progresses, we touch upon Tesla vandalism controversies in Minnesota and examine the implications of not charging individuals accused of vandalism with criminal offenses. Finally, Stephen Moore joins to debate Trump’s economic approaches, particularly his tariff strategies in dealing with international trade, and how these have stirred both support and skepticism among policymakers and economists alike.
It’s another busy week on the Mike Gallagher Show and our Week in Review podcast. Welcome aboard. Apparently in Minnesota, it is absolutely fine to vandalize cars as long as they’re Teslas. Plus, Stephen Moore stops by to go over Trump’s tariff policy. But first, we’ve got to start with a huge story this week. The push to give suspected MS-13 gang member, or as the Democrats call him, Maryland man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, due process. Check out Dana Bash asking Van Hollen yesterday repeatedly, I mean repeatedly, is Albrego Garcia an MS-13 gang member or not? Pay very close attention to Chris Van Hollen’s answer. More specifically, his non-answer.
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Can you say with absolute certainty that he is not, nor has he ever been a member of the MS-13 gang? And did you ask him point blank?
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Well, Dana, what Donald Trump is trying to do here is change the subject. The subject at hand is that he and his administration. Stop it right there.
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Stop it right there. Isn’t that amazing? He’s on CNN and now he’s shocked. He’s like, oh, oh, Dana, who I thought was on my side, is asking me a trick question. And I love that when a politician is asked, what did you have for breakfast this morning? Well, you know, my car is green. I mean, that answer, that’s not edited. That’s in real time. This is unedited. Play it again from the beginning, Christian. She just asked a question that, and good for her. I’m not a big Dana Bash fan, but good for her. Is he a gang member or not? Listen to the guy’s answer.
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Can you say with absolute certainty that he is not, nor has he ever been, a member of the MS-13 gang? And did you ask him point blank?
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Well, Dana, what Donald Trump is trying to do here is change the subject. The subject at hand is that he and his administration are defying a court order to give Abrego Garcia his due process rights. They are trying to litigate on social media what they should be doing in the courts. They need to put up or shut up in the courts. Let me tell you, and I decided to write this down so I could be absolutely accurate as to what federal district court Judge Zinnis said about these allegations by the Trump administration. Quote, no evidence linking Abrego Garcia to MS-13 or any terrorist activity has been presented to the court. That’s where to litigate this. It’s been litigated in many other places. So I’m not going to get into the details because the whole purpose of our court system is for them to adjudicate these things, not for Donald Trump to go off on social media.
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Can you confirm or deny that he’s a gang member? And did you ask him? Well, what President Trump wants to do. And I don’t think the guy even recognizes what a fool he sounds like. These are not serious people. You know, I say this over and over again. These are not serious people. Now, look, people of good faith can disagree. There’s a very popular podcaster named Joe Rogan. who absolutely is all in for due process for this gang member. I don’t know why Joe Rogan believes that we should give constitutional rights to somebody who snuck into the country. and doesn’t belong here, who’s a criminal, who’s a gang member, who is by definition a terrorist, who El Salvador’s president says, no, no, we’re going to keep this guy incarcerated. But here was Joe Rogan. I’m a big believer in people of good faith having good faith debate, not just name-calling and not just back and forth. Here’s Joe Rogan on his podcast.
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If you wanted to destroy society and make it worse, what would you do? You bring people in from a third world country. Don’t have them change anything. Financially incentivize them to be there. Give them free money while you’re not helping the poor people in America. They were giving them debit cards, free housing, free food, putting them up in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City. Why, yo? If you want to destroy society. I mean, that sounds like it’s working. Like it’s going in that direction. So the problem with things that are going in a radical direction, then there’s an overcorrection. So the overcorrection is lack of due process. The overcorrection is like, round them all up, ship them to jail. That’s like some things that you say when you’re not thinking things through. Like, what do you do about all the criminals? Take them all? And send them to El Salvador. Yeah. What about due process? No, f*** that. But here’s the problem with that. What if you are an enemy of, let’s not say any current president. Let’s pretend we get a new president, totally new guy in 2028. And this is a common practice now of just rounding up gang members with no due process and shipping them to El Salvador. You’re a gang member. No, I’m not. Prove it. What? I got to go to court. No, no due process. That’s dangerous, Joe. That’s dangerous. That’s dangerous. That’s dangerous. We’ve got to be careful that we don’t become monsters while we’re fighting monsters.
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Now, here’s the problem with Joe Rogan’s argument. It’s a straw man argument. The hypothetical he puts up isn’t apples to apples. Joe Biden opened the floodgates and the Democrats had opened borders for years. We have millions of people, many of whom are committing horrible crimes against American citizens. So there’s no question it’s a challenge. But Joe Rogan hasn’t thought through how difficult it’s going to be to try to track down every illegal, including gang members, and provide them with trials and appeals and hearings in the United States court system after the Democrats and Biden— inundated America with millions and millions of illegals. So, look, we always knew this was going to be a hassle. We always knew how hard it was going to be. And I don’t mind presenting both sides of an issue. Frankly, if it’s between Joe Rogan and Senator Chris Van Hollen or the Trump administration, I’m with the Trump administration. If it’s between Joe Rogan and Tom Holman, I’m with Tom Holman. Not only does the radical left want foreign criminals free in our country, they want domestic criminals to roam free too. Colonel Kurt Schlichter from townhall.com joined us to discuss the latest in Tesla terrorism. I’ve got to tackle what I think is the biggest story that won’t be covered in the mainstream media of the week, and it’s right up your alley. I’m reading the Washington Times this morning. The Soros prosecutor in Minneapolis said, has made the Solomon-like decision not to criminally charge the jerk who the police say committed over $20,000 of damage to people’s Teslas. It turns out he’s a state employee in Minnesota, works for Waltz. He’s going around keying a bunch of Teslas, over $20,000 worth of damages, as he’s walking his dumb dog, and… Kurt, the prosecutor said, we don’t want to charge him criminally. That could impact his job and his reputation. We’re going to put him in diversion. We’re going to hold him financially responsible, but we’re not going to give him any criminal charges because, after all, that’s what we do here in Minnesota. We’re Minnesota nice. Kurt, if that doesn’t sum up the state of today’s Democrat, activist, radical, lunatic party, nothing does.
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Well, look, not that I want to defend Minnesota, but I think that may be the same thing they do with all crimes. In other words, I think they may be treating him just like they treat all criminals, which is that they let everybody off. You know, so maybe we finally found one example where there’s not a two tier justice system. I don’t know. I don’t know what the Minnesota prosecutor does. I do know that we have a Department of Justice and I do know it is a federal crime to violate somebody’s civil rights. And I’ve seen crazier filings of the Department of Justice, mostly against conservatives. Right. But look, if somebody is going around systematically causing damage, sabotage, you could call it vandalism to people’s property because of their politics. I think there are federal laws that may be impacted because they’re obviously doing it. to gain a political effect. And I think this is exact. And I do think this is exactly the kind of case where if you want to clamp down on political violence, when we seem to have a problem with that, just ask the UnitedHealthcare guy. Oh, wait, you can’t because they murdered him. Or maybe ask the president, who you know was literally shot uh and and a couple of our people wounded and one killed if we want to clamp down on i think we need to clamp down on it this would be uh something where federal action might be a a good idea and and it’s not unprecedented the federal government came in and stepped in in southern states where democrats in power there and and they were democrats refused to charge white terrorists with attacking black civil rights workers. So the feds went and did it. And I think it’s important to establish that this is unacceptable and they’re accepting it. And I don’t think this kind of crime can be treated like every other crime. OK, so if you have some guy who’s just out keying random cars because he’s a jerk, I think that is a measurably different situation. That guy is out randomly keying. Well, not randomly keying cars, but doing it to intimidate people because of their politics.
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Democrats often live in an echo chamber where their idiotic ideas are parroted by one another. But what happens when one Democrat lawmaker goes on Fox News to argue for the rights of illegal aliens? Well, you’re about to find out. Democrats divided over support for the MS-13 gang member. I mean, this is like real world. This is supposed to be real life. Democrats are divided over whether or not to back an MS-13 gang member from El Salvador. There’s a debate about that, don’t you know? Anybody debating the status of the MS-13 gang member within the Republican Party? Do we have any Republicans pushing back against deporting illegals who are gang members? Is this really a heavy lift? Is it hard to say it’s a good idea to kick illegal immigrants who are violent, dangerous gang members out of the country? Due process. Due process. Laura Ingraham battled Congresswoman Yasmin Ansari, who’s a Democrat from Arizona, last night on Fox News Channel. This was fairly amusing to watch. Every American should be concerned about this.
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Congresswoman, I know you can’t mean that. And I’m not trying to play gotcha here. I know you don’t mean that American citizens are distractions.
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No, victims are changing the subject. Today, we are here to talk about the lack of due process for an individual who is illegally deported from this country. That is the subject of any other act of violence.
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Congresswoman, I’m giving you just so everyone understands. Yeah, well, the violence committed by illegal immigrants against innocent Americans and legal immigrants has been appalling. It is devastating.
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Any violence, any violence against anyone in this country is appalling.
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And I wish there was one moment where Democrats acted like they cared about that. Well, apparently it’s all collateral damage to Democrats who sat by the open border. Right now we are worried about the constitutional crisis. Right. Oh, the Constitution.
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We are worried about the constitutional crisis and the lack of this president following the Supreme Court. I’m sure.
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or you were you believe in the supreme congresswoman were you worried this country were you worried when i know you’re i know this is the progressive way of dealing with interviews we just you know i’m not trying to talk over you i’m actually trying to get a question answered i asked you a simple question what process is due Mr. Abrego Garcia in the United States that you believe he has not received or could receive if he’s undeported, which is the Democrats’ priority, undeport him, bring him back here. What process do you want him to receive that would make you happy and feel good? Could he ever be deported?
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It’s very clear. The Supreme Court says return him. And in court, we can have a discussion about what action should be taken. This… Laura, this administration admitted they made a mistake. This administration admitted that they made a mistake in deporting Mr. Garcia. This is a fact, Laura. Unfortunately, you’re not sticking to the facts of the case, which is that Donald Trump admitted that he made a mistake.
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I’ve been very clear on the facts. Well, Congresswoman, if you want to come on the show, we’d love to have you back.
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So there’s no due process there.
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I believe in the Supreme Court. But you don’t, right, but if he’s, I will just say this on the show and you can come back. Just wait, take a breath. If he comes back, let’s say he is undeported, and the Democrats are happy about that. If he’s undeported, he will be deported from the United States. That will make you miserable, correct? That will set off a whole new firestorm because what you care about is an illegal immigrant’s rights to be here ad infinitum.
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This is a union member, a person with a U.S. citizen wife. This is a person who the Supreme Court has said needs to be facilitated back to the United States. That’s a fact. We got it.
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We got it. You will never support the deportation of this individual. That is the truth.
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I mean, she does ask, Laura asks a really intriguing question. If they bring Kilmar back, who’s become this Mother Teresa for the Democrats, he’s this heroic, saintly figure. And look, you know his story by now with the wife beating and the car full of migrants in the trunk and everything else. The MS-13 gang tattoos all over his hands. If they bring him back and then we kick him out again, what are the Democrats going to do then? I stood in New York City Saturday morning on Madison Avenue. I’ve got the video to prove it. You don’t believe me? Christian, play the video of the protest that I saw on behalf of illegal immigrants. Thousands and thousands of New Yorkers. I mean, it was mostly older white people. Not a lot of black people. Very few people of color, interestingly enough. But if you’re watching the Salem News Channel right now, you’re seeing the sign. We are all Kilmar. Great job, Christian, freeze-framing that. You see the sign right now at Salem News Channel? SNC.TV. We are all Kilmar. And I wanted to stop the lady. If I was half the man I used to be, I would have gone up to her and said, Lady, you may be an MS-13 gang member who beats his wife. I’m not. We are all Kilmar. Now, that was a sign, one of many like that, incidentally, at this protest march in New York City, where thousands and thousands of men, women, children, they had upside-down flags, they had Kilmar signs, they had signs for every pet peeve they’ve got against the Trump administration. And look, I’m going to tell you flat out, it was as far as the eye could see. There’s a lot of people right now who have swallowed every drop of the Kool-Aid. So, simple question for you. What are they going to do if they bring Kilmar back and they deport him again? Are they going to start it up all over again? Laura Ingraham is absolutely correct. They don’t care about Kilmar Obrego Garcia. They don’t care about due process. Because if they cared about due process, that would have come up post-January 6th. All they care about is keeping as many illegals as possible in the United States for as long as possible. And finally, while the left is busy protecting illegals, President Trump is busy protecting American citizens and American businesses. Renowned economist Stephen Moore joined the show this week to talk about the impact of Trump’s tariffs and how they’re already working. Do you see people in your circle sort of coming around as you have to the Trump way of doing things? Or is there still a kind of a staunch resistance to the path that Trump is trying to take?
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Well, I can really only speak for myself. And, you know, I’ve been a doubting Thomas to some of these policies. But and, you know, I have a very good personal relationship with Donald Trump. I’ve advised him over. He always gets out of here. He says there’s more. He’s a great economist, but he doesn’t agree with me on tariffs. And I say, no, Mr. President, I don’t. But, you know, who am I to doubt this guy? He’s the best negotiator I’ve ever met in my life, Mike. And he is he understands the heart of the heart of the deal. And I think at the What we want to see – I’m trying to figure out kind of the overall strategy. Trump holds his cards close to his vest. But I think that the idea here is to really isolate the bad actor in the economy, the new – what I call the new evil empire, which is China. And what Trump is trying to do strategically – and you can tell me if you agree or not – I’m not 100 percent of this, but I think he wants to unite the rest of the world against China the way we probably should have done in the 1930s against Japan and Germany and force them to behave themselves. I mean, Trump is right. They lie. They cheat. They steal. They’re building up their military in a very aggressive, dangerous way. And this if we can do that, it’s it’s both a an economic and foreign policy and national security triumph.
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Well, of course I agree with you because I truly believe that I think that what Trump wants to do is make China more like Japan. As you said, there’s a strategy here because, you know, you hear his constant refrain. These guys are taking advantage of us. They’re ripping America off. These are all one-sided deals. And, Stephen, to be clear, this tariff strategy is nothing new for Donald Trump. He’s been preaching this for years and years. But it feels like in 2025, now it’s Trump’s tariffs on steroids.
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Yeah. So here’s the thing that annoys me about the media coverage of all this, that even if you’re somebody who has doubts about Trump’s terror strategy, I’m still a little queasy about it, as you can tell. Have you noticed, like Jerome Powell and the media, they never talk about all the other amazing things Trump is doing. All of which are extremely good for the U.S. economy, producing more American energy, unleashing our energy power. How about the fact that he’s got Doge that’s identifying hundreds of billions of dollars of waste in our government? How about the fact that he wants to do this big, beautiful tax bill, which, you know, Larry Kudlow and I wrote the very first version of that back then. I don’t know, eight years ago. It’s been a huge success. How about the fact that he’s gotten sick in 90 days? He’s gotten the border entirely secure. Nobody talks about those things that are so good for the economy. And I find that to be unfair and unbalanced.
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You know, I get sickened at the way the media refuses to ever lift up America, all under the guise of opposing Donald Trump. You’re right. I mean, he lists all the trillions of dollars that are being injected into the United States economy. He went through the list the other day of Apple. And you look at Tesla with its brand-new Starlink stuff in Texas and all these exciting things that are happening. They never give him credit for that, ever, ever, ever.
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You know what? You know what else they don’t give him credit for is whether you’re a free trade guy like me or more of a tariff guy like Trump, what he is saying is absolutely true, Mike. These other countries have tariffs much higher than we do. And all he’s saying is let’s have a level playing field. And think about this. If he’s able to get all these other countries to reduce their tariffs, then Milton Friedman is probably rolling over his grave in joy that we’ve got lower tariffs all over the world. And that will lead to actually freer and fairer trade. It will save American jobs. We’re the most competitive country in the world. We have the greatest entrepreneurs. We have the greatest workers. We have the greatest environment for growth. So we will prosper under that kind of environment that Trump is trying to build.
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Visiting with Stephen Moore, of course, economist, author, senior visiting fellow in economics at the Heritage Foundation, author of many books, including his latest, The Trump Economic Miracle and the Plan to Unleash Prosperity Again. You mentioned Jerome Powell, Stephen. Let’s talk about him. President Trump’s assertion that he has no intention of firing Jerome Powell. But Powell is definitely standing up to Trump because President Trump keeps asking, begging, pleading, demanding that they lower interest rates. They don’t seem to be budging.
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So, you know, it’s interesting because, first of all, when Jerome Powell made his comments, what was that, about a week ago? I think it was exactly a week ago on the economy. I thought it was the most outrageous speech I’ve heard from a Fed chairman in the 40 years I’ve been covering this. I’ve been in this game a long time, Mike, as you know. And the Federal Reserve chairman went out and attacked the newly elected president and attacked his policies in an extremely aggressive and partisan way. By the way, Mike, do you recall Jerome Powell ever giving a talk like that when Never, never, never.
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It’s like he never did that.
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Yeah. So my point is that at that time I wrote in our hotline, I said, it’s time to fire this guy. But I have to say, I changed my mind on that, not because I have a high opinion of Powell. I think he’s been a disaster personally. He’s the one who allowed the inflation rate to go up to nearly 10 percent. annually when Biden was president. The reason I did is, given the turmoil in the market, I just think it would have been the wrong time to do this. And I think Trump has made the right decision. What’s going to happen, I’m going to tell you exactly what’s going to happen, Mike. One year from now, when Jerome Powell’s term is up, he’s gone. He’s out of there. Trump does not like Powell at all. And I think he’s going to replace him with somebody like an Arthur Laffer or a Steve Forbes or or maybe Kevin Wurst, somebody who believes in growth, believes in Trumponomics, and that was the right decision to make.
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