Join Mike and Mark on a journey through today’s political turbulence, starting with a celebration of Marvin Gaye’s legacy and segueing into the heated political arena. From discussions about the significance of voter ID in Wisconsin to the economic strategies deployed by Elon Musk, this episode unpacks how seemingly disparate topics thread together in the broader political narrative. As the hosts dive into proxy voting debates and social media influencers’ roles, they provide an engaging analysis that challenges prevailing assumptions about governance and activism.
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 05 :
He met an untimely demise, didn’t he? That he did in 1984, shot by his dad. But hey, let’s not dwell on that. It is Marvin Gaye’s birthday. He would have been 86 today. Oh, boy. But speaking of, you know, this is not a good— Happy Liberation Day.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. Happy Liberation Day. Well, it’s going to be a big day. I mean, but of course, we’re—I’m with you. I’m glad April 1st came and went. I mean, and on top of everything else that happened last night with Wisconsin, and I know we want to kind of break all that down, Val Kilmer dies at 65. I know. He’s got to die at 65. This is not a good day to tell you. He can’t die at 70. No. Uh-huh.
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90.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. 90, 88, I’d have taken 93. Heck, I would have taken 71. He’s got to die at 65. Five days before you turn 65. Right on the eve of my 65th birthday. So, wow, what a crapping day yesterday. Although, you know, there were a lot of bright spots as well. Say what you will about the Wisconsin electorate. At least they got voter ID right. Very important. That is correct. Very important.
SPEAKER 05 :
Did you hear that? Were we talking about this or was it somebody else? Where it was like, hey, the voter ID measure passed and we saw that as a possible positive harbinger. It’s like, hey, maybe that means the Republicans have really shown up and that the Republican is going to win. No, you know what it’s proof of? Even Democrats have clarity on that. There are tons of people who voted for this Susan Crawford person but wanted voter ID also.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s talk about Susan Crawford. I was listening to her acceptance speech on your show driving over the Howard Franklin Bridge. Wow. Chills. This is a stone-cold activist. Yep. To talk that way as a Supreme Court justice. Yeah. sounding almost like Spartacus on the Senate floor yesterday.
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Against the hate and the darkness.
SPEAKER 04 :
We’ve got to go against the prevailing winds. Well, it’s the playbook. I mean, look, the Democrats right now, and we can’t look. We’ve got to dust ourselves off. I was praying that there would be a miracle and that Brad Schimel would win. It wasn’t particularly close. I saw little old ladies tell CNN, well, I voted for Trump, but I’m worried about abortion rights. Here we go again. And the Democrats, as we always knew they would, putting abortion front and center, scaring little old ladies into thinking that Brad Schimel wants to take their 72-year-old bodies right away from the right to choose. Lady, you don’t have to worry about it. You know, you’re fine. You know, just calm down, Gertrude. You’re not going to lose your right to an abortion, Grandma. But, you know, okay, so that’s the game they’re going to play. And they need judges desperately. Mark, think about this. If the scenario, the doomsday scenario is true, and I would maintain it’s not necessarily true. We don’t know about the redistricting in a year or two. We don’t know for sure that they’re going to take control of the House of Representatives. A lot can happen in the next year or two. So don’t panic. Don’t despair. But they do need judges to try to run the country. That’s all they got.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because they don’t have the voters on their side in many cases.
SPEAKER 04 :
They don’t have the electorate. Their ideas are horrible. Their ideas, their policies stink. Americans are saying no to their policies. They’re being rejected. You see the last popularity rate? 21%. I got a real kick out of all these Democrats spiking the football last night on social media over the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. They love us now. Yeah, you’re a party that is, as John Kennedy put it, a little bit less popular than chlamydia. So just calm down. But they know that to weaponize a branch of government, to force your will upon the people, is the only thing they got. That’s all they got. And honestly, I’m so glad you played that Susan Crawford acceptance speech because it does reinforce the strategy. She doesn’t even hide it, Mark. No. You know, she’s like you said earlier, she sounds like a politician on the stump. We’ve got to stand up against the darkness of Trump and Trumpers and the Trump movement. This is all they. So, by the way, Wisconsin. Have at it. Sanctuary cities galore. Crime. I mean, you should see her rulings about really bad people. So, look, you got what you got. And Republicans didn’t show up like we thought they would.
SPEAKER 05 :
Did you buy my theory that elections are reactive, that one of the reasons Trump won is it was a pendulum swing away from Biden, away from Harris? I was like, ugh, enough of that. Let’s try something else. Now in the early months of Trump with so much success, so much energy, so many things that are liberal defeats, it really pumped some activism. I just think that Democrat turnout, we were beaten in the – all elections are a turnout election, but we were really beaten in a – It’s probably a 50-50 state. Their energy was more because they’ve seen what’s going on with Trump. Republicans have seen the Trump opening couple of months have gone, wow, this is really cool. Time to get back to work. Leftists see the Trump stuff and go, ah, we must take to the streets.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I loved what you read from Charlie. Charlie Kirk, who is emerging as one of the most popular, vibrant, vital voices in America. And we’re so proud to have him on the Salem team today. And this young man is just doing wonders. And look, Turning Point USA was on the ground in Wisconsin. A lot of good people left it all out on the field last night in Wisconsin. But Charlie said, we’re the party of welders, waiters, and plumbers. They’re the party that lives for politics. They live for this. This is their religion. And we do have to acknowledge that Trump… has resurrected a dead GOP. I mean, everybody’s agreeing that without Trump on the ballot, Republicans go to my job and I’ll do my thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
With him on the ballot, it was barely a 1% win over Kamala. I mean, it was one of the swing states that he won, but it was 1%.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Wisconsin is truly one of those real purple, purple states. They’re down the middle. You’ve got Madison.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Milwaukee got big, got big liberal strongholds. So look, we got to learn from this. And I think Charlie’s right. Let this be a wake up call. And look, I don’t mind. I really, this is weird of me. I was thinking this last night when I went to bed. The other side, our loyal opposition, has had nothing to cheer about since November 5th. Nothing. So now they do. Now they’re excited. Maybe this will restore a little bit of normalcy to people who are keying Teslas and lighting Molotov cocktails. Silly, silly boy. I know, but let me… But I’m thinking that there are people who have been so agitated, maybe this will ramp down the temperature a little bit. Not at all. Not at all? You don’t think so? Not at all. Not a chance?
SPEAKER 05 :
Among reasonable people using earth logic, people who are just more liberal than we are, sort of center left, they may think, okay, they may have a moment of breathing easier. But if you’ve got the mindset, if you have the twisted soul to key a swastika into a Tesla… You don’t become better overnight because of a Wisconsin Supreme Court election.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, and I’m not talking necessarily about the actual vandals, but people who are watching this who think that Elon Musk is the boogeyman. Look, you’ve got to hand it to the left and their playbook. They have pretty successfully vilified Elon Musk, and he incidentally embraces it. Do you ever notice how he always wears black and the black hat and the black coat and the black shirt? He does that. He thinks he’s like a Batman villain or something. Dark MAGA. Yeah, and that’s okay. I mean, look, we got a lot of interesting characters. Hey, did you catch him? Did you catch him in the beginning of the five? I did. I saw that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Of course, as they call it in Central Time, the four. So it’s four o’clock. Lisa and I are sitting down and firing up some Fox News. And there’s Judge Jeanine saying, hey, joining us now, Elon Musk. I said, whoa, what?
SPEAKER 04 :
I know.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they go around the horn, Jesse and Greg and even Jessica Tarloff had to badger him about the doge cuts. Boom. This is the charm of the show. Good. And he took it with grace and goodwill. I’m going to play some of that in a bit. But it was just a really good sit down as the round table on the five peppered Elon with some questions on the floor.
SPEAKER 04 :
He had a really profound bit of advice. One of them asked him, you know, what’s advice for young people? He said, you look at fear, you stare fear, and it goes away. Stare it right in the face. You got to conquer your fears. And I love that. I think that’s so very important because too many people right now are wallowing in fear.
SPEAKER 05 :
Especially these days, we’re growing young people who have no coping skills and no ability to get up and dust themselves off and go, that hurt. Let me get better. Let me get stronger. And my brand new Star-Telegram and across the country in the McClatchy chain, a newspaper column, is about that Walter Isaacson biography of Elon that I just finished shows to write a column about it. This is him. He goes after whether it’s rockets, whether it’s cars or robots or SpaceX or whatever. He just says, I’m going to try 100 things. 30 of them may fail. 50 of them may fail. But I just had 50 successes, if that’s the case. Correct. And this is what he does. And it’s inspiring.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, Scott Jennings last night on CNN made a really compelling argument against this narrative that Elon went there to Wisconsin and threw around the money and everything and he hurt the campaign. Scott said, look, it’s not really a secret in Republican circles that Brad Schimel’s campaign was fairly floundering. Until Elon went in there and injected a lot of money, a lot of attention. So, I mean, that’s okay. Let him do the Elon is the boogeyman narrative. And like you always say, let’s let the game come to us. Unfortunately, the game came to us last night on that side. But we did not prevail. Incidentally, speaking of dysfunction… So Anna Polina Luna here in Florida leads a revolt of nine Republicans who voted with the Republicans to table a procedure that would have allowed the House to vote against activist judges. And because they want to work from home. You see, Anna Polina Luna is a new mom.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s not just wanting to work. I mean, it’s.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it is. Vote for proxy vote. It’s working from home.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s her brand new baby. She wants the ability for 12 weeks to be able to vote for proxy vote. However, she’s 100% wrong. We cannot do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
She’s dead wrong. And these nine Republicans are getting a… ton of flack as they should here we go again with the circular firing squad we never we just snatch defeat right out of the jaws of victory every time it makes me nuts Chris DeGaulle earlier this morning had one of the funniest I had a spit take when I was brushing my teeth he played a clip of Amy Klobuchar who was congratulating Spartacus on that stupid 25 hour stunt I don’t know what that did by the way do you?
SPEAKER 05 :
What was the point? As if it’s one of these singular moments of legislative courage. All the guy did was prattle and spout for 25 hours to sound and fury signifying nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
By the way, how do you go 25 hours without going to the bathroom?
SPEAKER 05 :
There’s an answer to that. Because I thought, because if you’re doing the real filibuster, you can’t leave, you can’t eat, you can’t do anything. He didn’t leave. He went on a sizable fast. He might be kind of semi-dehydrated. It’s like, whatever, dude. Oh, and did you catch one of the fangirls? Lisa Murkowski? Exactly. Alaska Republican, air quotes. Lisa Murkowski, you may agree or disagree, but I don’t know what the word she was. It’s courage and resilience.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Lisa Murzkowski is a disgrace. That woman, she just ought to change party affiliation. Just go ahead and get it over with. Just be who you are.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re a Democrat. You’re right on these Republicans. They bought into the Anna Paulina Luna. And who’s the other one? Brittany, I forget the young lady from Colorado.
SPEAKER 04 :
But there were nine of them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Brand new baby. But they went along with this. Oh, it’s it’s anti motherhood. It’s we’re supposed to be pro family. We are pro family. We salute all motherhood. But but, you know, because you got a baby. Can you flout the Constitution and our system of laws and representative democracy? But more. No.
SPEAKER 04 :
But Mark, what’s with some of these social media influencers, the real sharp elbowed, I think maybe Posobiec or others are saying, oh, pay attention to those who are critical of these brave nine Republicans. I don’t really get it. I think they’re people that are, I think they’re anti-Mike Johnson, right? That must be their, and they want him to look bad. Well, good. Which I don’t understand.
SPEAKER 05 :
understand that either. Mike Johnson is about 90% awesome.
SPEAKER 04 :
Kevin McCarthy was 80% awesome. Keep bagging on Mike Johnson. Let’s have House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries. Knock yourself out, dummies.
SPEAKER 05 :
If people just listen to us, everything might be fine.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. We’d be okay. Just the world would be a lot better. All right. Hang in there. We made it past the first.
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Onward and upward. Happy Wednesday. Love you. We are ready. Mike Gallagher is set to go as soon as we’re done at 10, 660 a.m.
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