In this episode, explore the evolving role of AI technology in finance and its influence on the future of automotive industries with groundbreaking developments from companies like X-Ping. From Tesla’s political entanglements to the energy demands of AI advancements, discover the multifaceted dynamics at play in today’s investment scene.
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He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Monday morning. Welcome back from a three-day weekend. This is Bill Gunderson. This is the Best Stocks Now show. And, well, we’re back to work here today on this Monday. And we had a little tariff rhetoric over the weekend. And it has roiled the markets here so far. We’ve got the Dow down minus 134 points. Actually, 118 now. The NASDAQ is at 20,482. But let’s not forget, it hit a new high, all-time high on Friday. We’ve got the S&P 500 down 25. It also hit a new all-time high on Friday. It’s at 6,254. Some pretty lofty levels. The Dow, which hasn’t quite hit its all-time high, but it’s not too far from it. It’s down 134 today.
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The small caps down about 70 basis points today. The bond market, you’re up a little bit. A couple basis points on the 10-year. Three basis points now to 4.37%. Gold is soft again today. Gold is down three-quarters of a percent. It’s down to 33.19. I thought maybe with the tariff rhetoric it would be heating up a little, but no, it’s not. Crude oil is up a half a percent to 67.37. It’s showing some signs of life, but… None of these rallies lately have been sustainable. And last but not least, Bitcoin is down $607,000 to $108,080. So welcome to today’s Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. And I’m here with Jeff Webster. Our vice president, Barry Kite, has I think the whole week off. I think he’s on a cruise. I hope he’s not going to the Bermuda Triangle, Jeff. You don’t want to avoid that. You want to avoid that cruise for sure. But anyways, we’re glad to have Jeff with us. We did hit new highs in the market on Friday. New all-time highs. And then guess what? The markets just can’t seem to not be roiled in one way or another. And all of the tariff rhetoric heated up. Now, I don’t watch the Sunday political shows, Jeff, but apparently there was a lot of tariff talk and tariff threats. And right now it’s aimed at the BRICS. Yeah, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. Those are the BRICS. And Trump is threatening an extra 10% if they want to be anti-American and try to change the world currency to their currency and this and that. And there’s also several countries. Japan, for one, is still hung up on some things. The Eurozone is still hung up on some things. Canada came around last week, gave up on that digital tax. But a deal is not solved there yet. Mexico is still out there. Thailand is still out there. This has become that area of Southeast Asia. Remember when everybody was going to China in the tech world to open up factories and plants and whatnot? Now that hub seems to be Vietnam, Thailand, Southeast Asia. Those are the emerging markets now. and those are still kind of hung up on the trade deal, which July 9th is Wednesday, but I think we heard from Besson over the weekend that now we’re talking August 1st, and a letter is going out today to all the unsettled countries with their new tariff rate. Okay, guys, if you don’t solve this, if we don’t resolve this by August the 1st, this is where your tariff rate will be. So I would expect to see some deals made this weekend or this week. I would expect that now that everybody’s back to work, I would expect to see some finalization on some of these deals because, you know, look, I mean, it’s unpalatable, 25%. tariff on the cars. Think of how many cars. Toyota is the number one car seller in the world. I don’t think they can live with 25% tariff, so they’re going to have to give somewhere. Our big chip seems to be wheat. We want them buying our wheat and other farm supplies. I read this morning, Jeff, guess who the second biggest importer of wheat is in the world? It happens to be Indonesia. I guess they don’t grow a lot of wheat. I guess their land is not really made for wheat farming down there. But, boy, I remember we used to go to Montana every summer and spend some time with Uncle Neil up there in Ennis, Montana. All of our relatives up there were wheat farmers there. That Montana red winter wheat is some beautiful stuff. And Idaho and, of course, the Midwest. And Indonesia is offering to buy more wheat if they can get a lower tariff rate. And, you know, that’s become another major hub in the world is Indonesia. In fact, it’s become a tech hub down there. So, you know, this interconnected world and all of these supply chains and everything, they’ve really shifted over the years. And that’s why all of these deals are kind of, it kind of needs to have a reset because things have changed so much recently. So anyways, Trump going after the countries that are aligning with anti-American policies. That was on Sunday evening. And before I retired to bed last night, Jeff, I checked two things. The Padres score, and they were on national TV playing the Texas Rangers. Our old manager, Bruce Bochy, who we gave up on, you know, and then he goes to San Francisco to win several World Series. But the Padres did win, and then I check on those futures. They looked pretty nasty last night. I said, you know, I better get a good night’s sleep here. It could be a little bit of a dicey day, and apparently it’s because of Trump with the rhetoric talk.
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uh versus the brick comp the bricks well i was thinking bill you know so first of all the deadline was going to be july 9th it looks like they’re pushing out to august 1st um you know there’s this continual kind of pushing out the the penalty date if you will uh at some point you wonder when the line is going to become official in the sand uh again where i think we’re all hoping for uh positive uh resolution with with all of our trading partners yeah but then i look at i look at the bricks you know and so of course the big guys in there are russia and uh and china yeah then you you have india and then you have brazil and south africa and i’m like okay The Brazilians, are they more interested in aligning with the Chinese and Russians or with the United States? I’m not exactly certain. You know, we get a lot of crude products, soy products, some sugar. Beef and poultry comes from Brazil. And then, of course, you know, one of our favorite stocks, Embraer, You know, airline, aircraft manufacturing company is there. And then, of course, from India, you know, we’ve got our pharmaceuticals, our diamonds and things like that, textiles. You know, South Africa is going to be primarily, you know, mining items. Gold, platinum diamonds, ore, coal, those types of things. But I would think those… Countries, you know, want to stay aligned with us as opposed to becoming misaligned. Well, you can say.
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Yeah, well, and I mean, there’s political alignment and then there’s economic alignment. And Brazil has definitely become, I mean, the people voted in a socialist in Lula. So they’re more in line with Russia and China as far as politics go. But as far as I doubt that Russia is buying much of Brazil’s products, China probably is. So you’ve got that, too. And, you know, you’ve also had recently in the BRICS, you’ve had Egypt, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and United Arab Emirates that have joined the BRIC nation. So they’re pretty big. It’s like everybody except the U.S. is now a member of the BRICS. So we’ll just see where it lands. What’s more important to them, the political alignment or the economic alignment? I would think the economic alignment carries a big weight. But I’m starting to think that August 1st is a pretty hard deadline. There may be exceptions, yes, but I think that the tariffs are going to reset on August 1st. Lutnick said that this is it. He confirmed, but he says we’ll have most countries done by July 9th. Well, Jeff, that’s Wednesday, so keep your fingers crossed. We’ll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Docs Now show. Well, the letters went out, okay? The letters went out. Trump signed, how many letters did he sign last night? I think I read 12 here. Trump said that any country aligning itself, okay, 10% extra tariff, and he sent the letters out last night, so they’re going to get them today, and hopefully that we, Trump said, I’m pleased to announce that the United States tariff letters and our deals with various countries from around the world will be delivered starting 12 p.m. on Monday. He had signed roughly a dozen letters, okay, and they will start to pay on August 1st, the tariff. The money will start coming into the United States in pretty much all cases on August 1st, he told reporters on Friday. Okay, and of course, Morgan Stanley. They’re warning that if tariffs do rise aggressively, it could reinforce Morgan Stanley’s softer economic outlook. They’re forecasting 1% GDP growth year-over-year by Q4 2025. That’s if. if the tariffs aggressively. The market’s starting the week in a new quarter and the second half of the year with a couple of problems. It always has problems, but overvalued is, you know, nothing to take for granted. You’re at 22.43 forward P.E. ratio today. when the long-time average is more around 19.9%. So you’ve got a significant premium built into the market right now, mostly on momentum, which has taken over the market. The valuation is pretty full right now. You know, most people, the most aggressive S&P target prices for the next 12 months are up around 6,500. Well, we’re at 6,200 right now. I mean, what are we going to do for 12 months? Are we going to go up 300 points? Or is momentum going to carry us beyond the mark? We’ll just have to see. Momentum is a tough one to really calculate and predict. I mean, it shows up mostly in the technical charts. And we finished the week last week with some pretty strong momentum still in place with a lot of the leadership stocks still leading. But they are expensive. There’s no question about it. And if anything comes along, like this tariff talk, you can see how quickly the momentum, the wind can be taken out of the sales of the market. And valuation starts to come to the forefront a little more. And that is a problem. And I would also say that the market is overbought. You know, one of my indicators is my own Best Stocks Now app and how many stocks are ranked B-plus or better, which most of those stocks are B-plus or better based on momentum. You’ve got 1,300 out of 5,300. That’s a high, I think, for the year. 1,300 B-plus or better. A healthy market has more like 400, 500 that are kind of leading the way. But right now, the demand for stocks… Outstripping supply, creating momentum, and that’s a bit of a problem that you have to be worried about, especially as it relates to the high flyers. Thailand offers more trade concessions. Okay, imagine Thailand is now a big hub. to avert a 36% U.S. tariff. Obviously, they can’t live with that, and they are aggressively negotiating with the U.S. Hopefully, that will be won. that we can solve by july the 9th we’ll see the asia stocks are sliding as uh as the tariffs are getting ready to take place let’s just check in on china here today which that now that deal is done That one’s been put to bed and signed, but it’s some of the other Southeast Asia. China’s actually up a half a percent today, so that’s not too bad. Let’s check on Vietnam, which actually has an ETF now. They have several companies over there, including the… It’s up 1.4%, so things are kind of looking up here. Indonesia also has an ETF that I keep track on. So that’s kind of the hot spot in the world right now as the Middle East kind of steps back a little bit. Iran steps back a little bit. And now the focus is on that Southeast Asia. Tesla is not having a good day. Do you think that Elon has backed himself in a corner here? He’s kind of made both sides mad now.
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now that he’s formed his his new party the american party seems like he he’s the the left man and the right what what do you do if you’re elon musk jeff i don’t know it’s like i look at i look at his and the investors and i think they’re a little frustrated with the fact that that he wants to do that it’s like dude focus on your company focus on uh you know getting getting things uh squared away with your responsibility and stewardship of running that organization and looking after us as shareholders. So I think they’re a little frustrated with that. Conversely, his perspective is like, hey, I’m so rich that I can do and say pretty much anything I wanted. Yeah, what are you going to do about it? I think that put Will in a sideways position with him as well.
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Where his shareholders aren’t so rich that he can say anything. Exactly. Because look at the stock today. It’s down 6.4%. I’ve just avoided Tesla. I just avoid the stock because of that added element of controversy that you have that makes it very volatile and very much news-driven, headline-driven. Tesla stocks slide 6.4%. as Elon Musk launches the America Party amid a feud with Trump. And if you’re going to choose somebody to feud with, you know, you probably picked the wrong guy. I mean, he does have a lot of say over, you know, whether or not you’re going to get a $7,500, which isn’t part of the bill. There’s not going to be no more incentive for buying Trump. An electric car. So, you know what? I mean, I don’t see the third party being a big risk. I see it being a bigger problem for the shareholders. And I do see that there’s some action today by the board of directors. maybe wanting to get involved to try to cool him down. He spent $300 million to help Trump get into office, but then that backfired when the bill, the big beautiful bill, went against his role at Doge, number one, and also erased his hefty EV tax credits, which that’s been a major driver of profits for the carmaker. You know, those credits, they kind of rely on that. If you’re looking at a bunch of cars on a car lot and you get a $7,500 credit on this one versus that one, that does make a difference. Okay, when we come back, it’s going to be a big week. Competing retailers, Amazon and Walmart, are going to both have a huge sales event towards the end of this week. We’ll be right back.
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This is Bill Gunderson.
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We’ve got to get together sooner or later.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Stocks Now show. Well, the markets haven’t moved much since we started the show. They’re still down. You’re down 50 basis points, a half a percent on the Dow, half a percent on the S&P 500, and 66 basis points on the NASDAQ. So I would say it’s… Remember the tariff talks that we had that sent the market down to S&P down to 4,800 back on, I think it was March the 8th of this year or April the 8th. Maybe it was April the 8th. And here we are back into tariff talk. But in the meantime, we had good jobs reports last week. I’m not seeing any weakness at all as it relates to the jobless claims. As it relates to the new jobs created, the jobs market remains strong. There seems to be no hint of a recession. I saw one thing out there that’s a little troubling. The freight, the freight, trucking, the trucking. They’re saying that things have fallen off and they’re not moving as much freight and sales of new trucks anymore. Class 8 truck orders slide in June amid freight demand softness and elevated cancellations. So, you know, I’ve got to believe that that’s a little bit involved with the tariff war that’s taken place. where some of that freight is being held up, or it was held up, and it may just be a little bit of a follow-through to the issues we had, where freight was actually parked there at the dock for quite some time before it was unloaded. But I think that’s going to right itself pretty soon here. We’ll see. Hopefully this will be a big week in the trade deals. The euro area is doing okay. Retail sales rise better than expected. But I’ve got to say this. Look, the first half of the year was all about European stocks. They were up 21%. And I’ve never, ever seen the leading sector, 66 sectors that I have the market broken down into. I’ve never seen European banks, European financials leading the way. Even a lot of the tech stocks in Europe, like SAP and others, Rolls-Royce had a big first half. I don’t see that continuing into the second half. I think a lot of money went that direction. Because of the fear of the tariffs, it wanted to just kind of get on the sidelines but still be in the market. And a lot of money went into China the first half of the year. It outperformed our market. It was up about 20%. And a lot of money obviously went into gold in the first half of the year. As it had a big run to new all-time highs, I don’t see that continuing in the second half of this year. I think everything’s going to even out a little bit more. In fact, I would expect to see the U.S. markets outperform the European markets today. They just have such slow growth. Dow Chemical is shutting down three plants in Europe as the region struggles. So we’re talking Germany. We’re talking the center of productivity there. They’re a big chunk of that economy over there. It’s not really doing very well. It’s just barely, barely growing. Well, on the other side of the aisle of Elon Musk, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, he’s a billionaire. He’s a multi-billionaire. Maybe we could call him the father of AI. I don’t know. He certainly had a lot to do with it. He is politically homeless in a post criticizing the Democrats. He expressed disappointment with the Democratic Party on Friday, saying he finds himself politically homeless. He believes in techno-capitalism. He says we should encourage people to make tons of money and then also find ways to widely distribute wealth. I’m all for that. I think that the stronger the economy is, I do think it benefits most people. And he wants to share the magic of compounding. He says you can’t keep raising the floor without raising the ceiling for very long. And he’s especially going after the guy in New York City. Zoran Mamdami, who says we shouldn’t have any billionaires out there. Mamdami said we should not have billionaires. Frankly, it is so much money in a moment of such inequality, and ultimately what we need is more equality across our city and across our state and across our country. So, anyways, Altman is 40 years old. Maybe he’ll start his own party, the techno-capitalist party, right?
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The AI party.
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Yeah, the AI party. Hey, I was talking to a software program. Yeah, go ahead.
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No, I was going to say, over the weekend, I listened to a podcast that included a fellow by the name of Roman Yoplansky, a very, very smart computer scientist. He is an AI safety researcher. And he was talking about the dangers of AI and how AI could literally, you know, take over our lives. And, you know, the host was challenging him on that. He goes, well, think about it. He says, from an AI perspective, how many of us can get from… point X to our house without utilizing our Google or Apple Maps application. He said it’s taken over our life, but it was quite interesting. As a scientist who’s in favor of the technology but also feels like he has the stewardship to make certain that as a people we’re protected against how AI could really morph into something Quite dangerous. I’m trying to remember the name of the movie that came out where Powell was this product that kind of took over everything. Powell? Powell?
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Yes, it was basically… Jerome Powell?
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He’s going to… Powell, Powell. H-A-L-L-R.
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Oh, Powell.
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Okay, H-A-L-L-R. And it was a mock on IBM at the time, and this was a movie from 30 or 40 years ago about how it was taking over things, so… He is a little bit like, hey, we need to harness this technology. Or it could get out of control. I’m not exactly certain if that would ever happen.
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It scares me a little, I’ve got to be honest. There’s some scary parts about it. I talked to a programmer yesterday for one of the airlines, Southwest Airlines. I said, are you worried about AI taking over your job? He said, oh, I don’t know if AI is going to be flying airplanes anytime soon. I said, I hope not. I hope you’re right. And speaking of movies, I did not know that this big hit movie, I want to go see it, F1, which is about Formula One racing. My brother down in Texas is a big, big fan of Formula One racing. Those cars are just so awesome, those Formula One cars.
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You’ll love it, Bill. Lisa and I saw it on Thursday night.
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Oh, really?
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It’s very, very good. But it’s been a while since there’s been a good movie out there on the big screen, you know, from my perspective. And this is one that’s long. It’s two and a half hours long.
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Okay, well, you know who’s behind the movie, right? Apple. This is an Apple product. So they have their first blockbuster. And let’s check. Apple stock has been trying to make some headway. Maybe this will be their iron in the fire here is getting some hit movies going. But Apple is down three quarters of a percent. But yes, it’s got to be a loud movie. Should I wear earplugs to the movie? Well, you need to be able to hear some of the dialogue, but I think you’ll enjoy it. Brad Pitt, too. I like Brad Pitt. He’s one of my favorite actors. I’ve got to go see it. Okay, Tesla is downgraded by William Blair due to changes in the EV tax credits and incentives. I’m all… I’m just not a fan of Tesla stock. I really am not. And, you know, I keep hearing that there’s going to be a game changer with RoboTaxi and a game changer with the cheap EV car. But, you know, there’s just a lot of other issues involving Tesla right now. Xping over in China. And that’s one of the issues that makes me a little bit hesitant on Tesla is he didn’t have much competition for a long time. I remember, well, maybe 15 years ago or so, GoPro… made this giant splash with those little cameras, those little movie cameras. And that thing went to the moon for a while. It was the hot stock. And I kept saying to myself, you know, it’s just a matter of time before competition comes into the market. And now GoPro, you know, that stock has been crushed, obviously. I kind of see that same dynamic a little bit with Tesla. They had it all to themselves, basically, for so long. And now he’s got headaches with all these Chinese entries. We’ll be right back.
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White bird in a golden cage On a winter’s day You’ve got to go where you want to go, do what you want to do, and live whoever you want.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Docs Now show. Two more stories in AI involving individual companies here. X-Ping, which is one of the Chinese EV manufacturers, they jolt the electric vehicle sector with its new SUV powered by a Turing AI chip. The reason that is such big news, number one, it puts them light years ahead of Tesla as far as computing power for the autonomous vehicle. Number two, it goes around NVIDIA. NVIDIA was the leader in the chips for autonomous driving. They had their own chip that they’re developing and have out there on the market. But X-Ping came up with their own chip. Listen to this story. Now, okay, we were just debating about, you know, the AI. This chip, it’s a little faster than our brains, Jeff. It can do 700 trillion operations per second per chip. $700 trillion in a second.
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What was the latest reading on your brain? Mine was just about $6 trillion, so you’re right, it is a little bit faster.
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I couldn’t remember my grandson’s name on the 4th of July. I had to think about it for a minute. I finally… Yeah, you know what?
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$700,000.
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That’s just unbelievable. This SUV is going to cost $27,325. That’s another headache for Tesla. He doesn’t have anything down in that range, especially an SUV. With this new Turing chip, which is a game changer, it’s set to represent a major leap in automotive AI offering unprecedented computing power and efficiency tailored for autonomous driving and intelligent cockpit systems. I mean, you’re talking about a map to get to a restaurant in Somerville on our car, but imagine how much further… That’s like baby talk, you know, talking us there when we’ve got this kind of capability. Okay, a couple others here that I want to mention. I want to mention another AI stock here in a minute. But over the weekend, I read an article in Seeking Alpha. What’s the most attractive nuclear energy stock right now? Well, I happened to see an interview with the CEO of Constellation Energy on one of the news channels last week, late last week. Very interesting discussion. How much energy do you think it takes to do 700 trillion decisions and computations in a second? That is the problem. And this guy at Constellation was talking about people underestimate the massive increase. This is where I see a problem with AI. How are we going to allocate? It’s one thing to redistribute the wealth. How about redistributing the electricity? Is AI going to get it all? Is that fair? In Duluth, they need to worry about heating their house, let alone the AI. But that’s a major problem. But at the same time, I would say Constellation, you know, in my book, with the diversified portfolio that they have, Three Mile Island coming back online ahead of schedule, and two major customers now in Meta and I think the other one was Microsoft. And, of course, Amazon is also starting to deal with another one. And with Talon, and Talon to me is also a good one. And I think Vistra Energy, VST. I think those are the three major players right now with a lot of secondary players out there. And then as Seeking Alpha had an article, what’s the most attractive player? AI stock right now. And I like the one that Yiannis Zirmpanos came up with. He’s a writer there. Nibius Group. Nibius Group sits at the intersection. We own that in our emerging growth portfolio, MBIS. They sit at the intersection of the AI super cycle and the undervalued infrastructure. While CoreWeave has become the poster child for the GPU cloud, Nebius is the stealth operator, zero legacy debt, $1.5 billion in cash, $1 billion in fresh convertibles, a clean balance sheet that gives it pricing power over CoreWeave that CoreWeave can’t match. There’s also a big difference in the valuations here. CoreWeave, in my book… is nosebleed valuation. It went on a tear thereafter. It went public, became the new kid in town for about a month or two. It’s now settled down somewhat. Did you see, Bill, that they went shopping today, Corweave? Corweave did? Really?
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Well, they got plenty of money. They bought Core Scientific for $9 billion. Oh, yeah, Core Scientific. 11% to 12% of their overall… Market capitalization, you know, originally it came across as they’re buying Bit or a crypto mining company, CoreWeave, or Core Scientific. Yeah, that’s what they were kind of. Yeah, they’re really a data center, high-density data center company. You know, I looked at it initially and said, wow, but it’s going to help them eliminate $10 billion in leasing costs. And I think they’re acquiring like $1.9 billion in assets on revenue of like $410 million with Core Scientific right now.
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Yeah, they’ve been around for a while. Yeah, they’ve been around Core Scientific for a while. But a big run-up in your stock certainly gives you a lot of money to go out and buy.
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Yeah, Coral Weave is down like almost 5% and Core Scientific is down about 18% today. So the market is not too keen on this news.
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No. You know, we sold all of our Coral Weave. We were handed a gift on a silver platter where it tripled like in a month or two. And first I cut it in half and then I sold the second half. It’s just, you know, look, I mean, you have to have some kind of idea of where your stocks are at on a valuation basis. And when they start getting up there in the stratosphere like Corweave did, you know, what’s wrong with taking a triple in a couple of months? And that’s what we did. And we’re not back in it either. But we do own this Nibius NBIS in the emerging growth. portfolio okay well we’re out of time we’ve had a lot of fun here today we’ve talked a lot about a lot of companies out there on the cutting edge ai and tariff talk that seems to be the talk of the town and a little bit in that nuclear sector still hanging around because that that is a sustainable story uh in my book it’s going to last for quite some time and be investable To get the four-week trial to the newsletter, the live trades, the app, GundersenCapital.com, to set up an appointment with us. If you’re tired of Johnson & Johnson and Procter & Gamble, you should be. Give us a call at 855-611-BEST. Set up an appointment. Talk with us at 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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