Listeners are treated to a lively discussion about Elon Musk’s political bombshells and their impact on both the conservative movement and his own brand. Mike shares his insights on navigating personal finance amidst a sluggish real estate market, drawing parallels with the fiscal policies currently up for debate in Washington. Don’t miss Mike’s candid take on topics that are shaping America’s future!
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He’s the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here’s Mike.
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Don’t take your love away from me. Because breaking up is hard to do. I don’t know that Elon and President Trump have broken up. But boy, what a bombshell yesterday, huh? Elon Musk goes rogue. Elon goes off the reservation. Does that mean the lefties, the lunatic lefties can go buy Teslas again? Because now they’re all happy with him. Oh, they’re all lining up. Oh, good for Elon. I’m with him. He’s right. This bill is an abomination. Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, they’re all praising Elon now. Which makes me think maybe this is part of what Elon is up to. Because he’s got to fix Tesla. It was reported that Tesla sales were down 45% in the month of May. Maybe, maybe he’s trying to repair his brand. Look, I don’t know that you’ve got to take sides. I’m going to throw the phone lines open right now because I know you’re itching to talk about all this because this is a mess. No question about it. You’ve got Elon Musk calling Trump’s signature legislative platform an abomination. An abomination. Oh, it’s the end of the world. And yet we’ve got a bill that was unthinkable just a few years ago. We have total border security with this bill. Do you know that? We have the tax cuts made permanent with this bill. Do you know that? There are things in this bill, while not perfect, that were unthinkable until now. But because there’s increased spending, Elon and Thomas Massey, maybe Ron Johnson, have flipped their lids. They’ve lost their marbles. They’re attacking Trump. Now, what’s fascinating, there’s so much of this that’s intriguing. Let me just get the phone number out, and I want you to fill up my phone lines as we take to the airwaves. Because unlike The Five on Fox News, we talk about big breaking news and what to make of it all. What in the world? How could The Five ignore this yesterday? I love that show. I try to make it. Back in the day, it was Tucker Carlson for me every day. When he was on Fox. I still follow Tucker. I still stay plugged in. But I also like to sit in the living room and watch TV. I often watch Salem News Channel. I’ve got that on my Apple TV and I watch. But I’ve got Fox and One America News and Newsmax, of course, programmed in there. And I like The Five. How could you not mention the Elon Musk bombshell yesterday? It happened before their show. As a broadcaster, I thought, well, maybe it’s taped. And yet they have a little bug in the lower left corner of the screen that usually is the giveaway. It’ll put live. They’ll put live up there if the show is live. A lot of these shows are taped on Fox. People don’t know that. They try to keep it kind of quiet. Laura, I think, often tapes. Gutfeld always tapes. There’s a lot of shows that are pre-taped. And they don’t really want to tell you that because, you know, they feel like they’re failing in their mission, which is kind of true. For the five to go on the air yesterday and not even mention one word about the Elon bombshell, that’s unthinkable. I don’t know what in the world they’re doing over there at that show. Mark Davis suggested, well, maybe it’s because Laura Trump was in the Jeanine Pirro chair and they didn’t want to offend her. Are you kidding me? Maybe you’ve got to get somebody else in the chair. Because I kind of would have liked to have known what Greg and even Harold Ford had to say about Elon Musk going rogue. But let’s start with you, 800-655-MIKE. I don’t quite know what to make of it, but if you’re asking me to take a side between Donald Trump, Scott Besant, and Stephen Miller, folks like that, or Elon Musk and Thomas Massey, I’m with President Trump. And I know that Elon Musk, I believe his heart’s in the right place, but I also believe he needs to stay in his lane. Because if this bill fails, what happens to the Trump agenda is catastrophic. And we don’t want that. This bill cannot fail. And the guy that’s got to navigate it isn’t Elon Musk. He’s going back to work. He’s going back to Tesla and SpaceX. Trump’s left trying to figure it all out. So, yes, I will fully admit I’m not real thrilled about Elon Musk’s behavior right now. I appreciate wanting more spending or less spending. I appreciate all of it. But we better not let this thing collapse, because if the bill collapses, frankly, the Trump agenda collapses. And that is a horrible, catastrophic, you want to talk abomination? That’s an abomination. 800-655-MIKE. I hope you join us. Let’s put your voice front and center here in the Relief Factor studios because we’ve got a lot to cover today. 800-655-6453. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I’ve got a little secret for you. You know big pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You’ve seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don’t want to do this. 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The state of New York spends about $235 billion a year. The state of Florida spends about $125 billion. Both states have approximately the same number of people, but Florida doesn’t have an income tax. And I can tell you, having lived in both, it’s better not to have an income tax, and Florida gives better services. So we want the U.S. to be more like Florida, less like New York.
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You know, I can always count on everyone around me to make sure I’m… I’m dotting all the I’s and crossing all the T’s. I can’t get anything past you. Dave in Surprise, Arizona. And I thank you for this, incidentally. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow here. I said Steve Ducey. I always get the two of them mixed up. Steve is the recently retired father on Fox News. Peter Ducey. It was the White House correspondent for Fox News, and I said Steve instead of Peter, so thank you, Dave, for setting me straight. Christian, one of my producers, set me straight on my, not panic, but my little bit of anxiety over my condo in Florida. And I don’t want to get real personal here, but what I’m going through, interestingly enough, a lot of people can relate to. So Christian just saw a headline over at the Wall Street Journal, desperation is setting in for Florida condo owners. I can relate. You know, it has been said that in a normal climate, my condo would have sold in about five minutes. And I’m very proud of the place. I mean, I’m just going to tell you, it’s a great spread. And it’s too much for me. At this stage of my life, all I want to do is downsize. And I hate it because I love every inch of this condo. Okay? I mean, somebody is going to love it. The problem is… My realtor can’t even get a wrong number. It has died in Florida. So I want to dive into this Wall Street Journal article because all Christian saw was the headline. And it has to do with all of this uncertainty about the big, beautiful bill. It has to do with interest rates aren’t coming down. And Trump is furious at that. The rate has to come down. Trump is right. And this Jerome Powell will not lower the interest rate. Mortgage rates have to come down. And a quick, again, I don’t want to bare my soul here because, frankly, it’s very personal. But I’ll just, I’ll share with you what I’m doing. You know, I’ve got these great financial planners and Dean Owen, and I’ve got a strategy here. I hit 65, and look, it hit me between the eyes. You know, I’ve got plenty of years left of working, but I’ve got to think about what my life is going to look like when I’m 75 or 80. And I’ve got a plan. And they’ve put a plan together for me that is pretty amazing. Because the problem with my life, since Denise died, I have never budgeted. I see it. I spend it. It’s awful. I mean, I would not have to work ever again if I didn’t want to if I’d have been an adult. But I want to go take a trip. I go take a trip. Oh, I’m not going to fly coach. I’m going to fly first class. I don’t want to stay at the Holiday Inn when I can stay at the Ritz Carlton. I mean, it’s stupid. And I just spend. So finally, at age 65… I’m going to be a grown-up, and I’m going to take care of myself. Goodness knows nobody else is going to take care of me. And I make a good living. You don’t have to shed any tears for me. I’m well compensated for what I do. But I better be careful, and I better be smart. And it starts right now with selling my condo, which is, again, I mean, it’s a beautiful, beautiful condo. Everybody who, well, the three or four people who have seen it in the months that I’ve had it on the market loved it. Absolutely loved it. And there’s nothing not to love about it. It’s a high-rise, sweeping views on the water, and it’s got everything you could imagine, all the bells and whistles. And it’s, I think, reasonably priced. But when I sell it, And just so you know, the Dean Owen strategy here and all the things that I’m doing as an independent contractor now, with the profit on the condo, I wipe out my debt, I downsize, I get into a less expensive home, and I am on a budget. I’m now on a budget that I’ve never been on, and I’m going to look out for myself so that I’m okay for the rest of my life. Because the day is going to come, I know this is going to shock you, but I’m going to have to retire. Now, I may be 80. I don’t know. I’m 65 now. I’ve got four and a half years left on this contract. If things continue to go well, and frankly, the show is going gangbusters, no reason to think they won’t want me and that I won’t want to extend again. But who knows? I don’t know. So along comes this condo sale. And ordinarily, according to everybody who’s seen it, this thing should sell yesterday. People should be blown away by the condo. Absolutely. We can’t get a wrong number. We can’t get somebody calling Domino’s and reaching the realtor by mistake. It is dead. It is dead. It’s bad. It’s bad. And the Wall Street Journal article, this is an older one. This is not a current one. But desperation is setting in for Florida condo owners. Now, the good news is this is not something I have to do immediately. And I’m not desperate. And I’m not in a place where I’m having to panic or look. And I love the condo. There’s a big part of me that hates giving it up. I finally got a place where every inch of it is like perfect for me. And I did all these upgrades, a brand new HVAC system and a tankless water heater and all this stuff I’ve done to the place, electric shades and blackouts and curtains. I got it just the way I want it. So there’s a little bit of sadness. And there’s a part of me that says, okay, well, maybe I’ll have to eat cat food when I’m 75, but at least I’m going to be in a nice condo. I’m not desperate. And I’ve told the realtor, you know, I’ve even thought about just taking it back off the market. I mean, why have it on the market if nothing is moving? And nothing is moving. It is as dead. I’ve got a great realtor in the Tampa Bay area. She says, I have never seen anything. I mean, you have to go back to like 2008 for it to be this dead. And I guarantee you, and look, you can relate to this. If you’re in the real estate business, I don’t think it’s just Florida. I believe it’s happening across the country. Could be wrong. And in Florida, when you’re living on the water, there’s a bunch of combinations. I mean, there’s the HOA fees. Jack just wrote a note from Sarasota on the MyPillow text line. I have a two-bedroom condo on a pond. I pay $740 a month for my HOA fees. That’s insane. Oh, Jack, you’re not even close. Would that I only had $740 a month in HOA fees. So he’s right. The HOA fees are crazy. The property taxes are crazy. So there’s a lot of factors involved right now, and there is tons of uncertainty. But I truly believe that the interest rate is a major factor. Trump just tweeted out on Truth Social, nothing about Elon Musk, but he tweeted, ADP number is out. Too late Powell, he’s got a nickname for Jerome Powell, chairman of the Fed. Too late Powell must now lower the rate. He is unbelievable. Europe has lowered it nine times. And Jerome Powell is not going to budge. So as I sweat out why my condo isn’t selling… I blame Jerome Powell. I blame too late Powell. I’m with Trump. Georgia just asked, what are your monthly HOA fees? I’m not going to tell you. Let me just put it to you this way. If Jack in Sarasota thinks $740 a month is bad, Jack in Sarasota would choke on my HOA fees. Absolutely choke. But that’s, look, you’re also blessed with getting to live on the water and having sweeping views of Tampa Bay and having a high-rise luxury place that you have to have a certain level of income to do it. And so I get it. And I never, ever hope that you think I take it for granted. I am so thankful and I’m so grateful and I hate to even talk about this stuff because it sounds like I’m bragging. There’s only one guy that could brag and get away with it and have fun with it, and that was Rush Limbaugh. We talk about flying around on his jets in his big mansion, and that was part of Rush’s appeal and his shtick. I don’t come close to that, and so forgive me for even sharing any of these kind of personal details with you. But look, where I am right now is where a lot of people are. And I get it. And a lot of people are struggling right now, and a lot of people are facing a rough, rough patch. Take a look at Mike Lindell, what he’s up against, going on right now. And yet every single day, you keep supporting MyPillow. This is the best way you can support this great American company. Mike Lindell, who has a passion for election integrity, loves this country, loves President Trump. They’ve become good friends. Mike has extended the Giza Dream Sheets sale, this crazy price of $49.98, any color, any size, with promo code MikeG, and you’ve got to go to the Mike Gallagher Specials Square. MyPillow.com. This is a great story. Everything about MyPillow I love, and I love getting to show you a way to help a good guy like Mike Lindell. 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Good. You mentioned something I didn’t think of in that certain way, because there’s something incongruous about the supposedly rift between Trump and Elon, and then they’re going on the interviews and they’re buddy-buddy. So I think there may be some of that, you know, don’t throw me in the briar patch kind of thing. It might be a troll, in other words.
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I’m telling you, Mark, the tell, the giveaway is Trump not responding yet because Trump responds in the blink of an eye. We all know that. Do you think Mark is right that this is part of a big troll between Elon Musk with Elon Musk and Donald Trump? What do you think is behind this? 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Nebraska wants to know if I unburied the St. Joseph statue. Don’t even get me started on the St. Joseph statue. I put the St. Joseph statue in the condo. I threw it down the chute later. Then the realtor got offended. She thought that was sacrilege. She put the St. Joseph statue back. He’s upside down. He’s in a potted plant. I think maybe it’s giving me bad juju. No, I think at the end of the day, it’s across the board and real estate is bad. Is it just Florida? Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they’re having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It’s a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It’s a premium energy drink that’s good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it’s powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you’re going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren’t going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com. Use the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me.
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Okay, there’s a lot of drama going on, obviously. The supposed rift between Elon Musk and President Trump. People are taking sides. I wonder if this means it’s going to be safe for Tesla owners to take the car out of the garage again. Because now that, you know, Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and they’re all lining up, oh, I love Elon’s opposition to the big, beautiful bill. I love this. Circle your calendar. We agree with Elon Musk. Now they love Elon Musk again. They used to love him before they hated him because he partnered with President Trump. Now that Elon’s going back to work and left the government and is blasting the big, beautiful bill, now where do we go? We need smart people. And I can’t think of anybody better suited to deal with all these questions we have about the ADP, about jobs growth, about the interest rate. Stephen Moore is an economist and author, frequent lecturer, advised Trump in the 2016 campaign, and he was so kind to hop off a plane and plug in and join us on the Mike Gallagher Show. That’s commitment, Stephen.
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Hey, Mike. I’m at the Dallas-Fort Worth Airport. Just got off the air, but I’ve been chomping at the bit to talk to you about this. Great, great topic. By the way, I’m really conflicted on this. Oh, no. The timing is perfect. Yeah. The timing is perfect. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, I love Donald Trump and I love Elon Musk. I hate this, you know, kind of spat that they’re having because I think they’re both heroes.
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Well, and I think we all feel the same way. We so appreciate the commitment that Elon Musk had to the country. He damaged his brand. There’s no question about it. I mean, Tesla has taken it on the chin. He’s become the boogeyman. But now I’m not sure how helpful or productive it is that he’s coming out with all these social media posts. It’s an abomination. Look, he has to go back to work. Trump has to stay in Washington and deal with this, you know, herding all these cats, namely the members of Congress who’ve got to pass Trump’s big, beautiful bill.
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Yeah, great point. And so let me just say something about Elon Musk. You know, when he came to Washington, he did it at his own expense. You know, he’s one of the great innovators and entrepreneurs probably in the history of the world. So I greatly admire him. What he tried to do was drain the swamp. And, you know, there’s an old saying in Washington, Mike, you’ve heard it. No good deed ever goes unpunished. So as soon as he started calling out the mass of hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud… The billions of dollars of Social Security money that’s going to dead people. The fact that the foreign aid establishment couldn’t tell us where hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars went. They lost the money. The fact that you had Medicaid fraud that was so abundant. Illegal immigrants getting billions and billions of dollars of free health care from the taxpayers. On and on and on. He exposed that. And he was vilified by the left. In other words, because he was… educating Americans about how much money is wasted, the left hated him, which I guess tells us that that’s how the left makes their money, on the fraud in government. But I also agree with you. I was outraged by his statement. Was it yesterday or the day before where he said that this bill is despicable and so on? No, it’s not a perfect bill, Mike. It’s not a perfect bill. But we have to get this done to eliminate the chances of the biggest tax increase in history. It’s good for small businesses. It’s good for American companies. It’s good for American workers. And it has to get done.
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Well, and I follow what Stephen Miller is saying about this. Look, the big, beautiful bill cuts taxes. Of course, the Trump tax cuts permanent, deports the illegals, fully funds the border. This is not a bill. that we could have even dreamed of having in 2017, he said. So we’ve got to remember that. And I keep thinking about the phrase, not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, because clearly we’re not going to get everything we want, and spending is a problem. And I appreciate that, and I respect the pushback from people like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey. But, Steve, if this bill doesn’t pass, this is catastrophic for the Trump agenda. Make no mistake about it.
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Well, it’s catastrophic for the country. It’s catastrophic for American businesses, workers, the average family. If we don’t get this done, we’d face a $2,500 increase in their tax bill next year. By the way, can you tell me, Mike, why it is that every single Democrat in the House voted to raise taxes on the middle class by $2,500 next year? I mean, outrageous. But there’s a lot of hidden gems in this bill, too. I mean, I’m a big school choice guy, as you are. There’s funding to allow parents to send their kids to great schools. There’s border security money here so we can control the border. But by the way, the folks who are working on that have done an amazing job. We’re down 93 percent in illegal immigration. There is all sorts of savings. Work requirements for welfare programs, which is something, my goodness, Bill Clinton did in the 90s, and it was a huge success. You got people, able-bodied people sitting home watching TV, getting free health care, free food, free checks in the mail. That kind of thing has to stop. This is not a great bill, but it is a good bill and it is essential that we pass it.
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Amen. And, Steve, I don’t want to get bogged down in the drama. My audience and I will wallow in the drama between Elon and Donald Trump. But I want you to crunch some numbers for me because I really need your advice on how – because I don’t understand with the ADP count and the jobs. I mean, this was released just earlier today. Private payrolls increased just 37,000. in May, which was below the expectation, the Dow Jones forecast of 110,000. President Trump immediately took to Truth Social and he said, ADT number out, too late Powell, nickname for Jerome Powell, calling him too late Powell. must now lower the rate. He is unbelievable, President Trump wrote. Europe has lowered it nine times. Can you help us understand? Help a layman like me. Help a dummy like me understand the role of Jerome Powell and the Fed and the rate and why he will not acquiesce and give President Trump what he wants in lowering the rate.
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Well, let me give you a little big picture here. This economy is booming right now. Now, I just heard about the ADP report, but every other single report we’re getting, Mike, is very strong. You saw that Atlanta Fed said the economy so far in the second quarter is growing. Are you ready for this? Almost 5 percent, which is a block. buster number. You’re seeing the inflation rate now down to 2.5%. Remember, it was 9% under Biden. You’re seeing consumer confidence soar. So I think this is an extremely healthy economy. One of the reasons private sector payrolls aren’t growing faster is because there aren’t enough workers to fill all the jobs. There’s 7.1 million job openings today, according to the latest report by the Bureau of Labor. 7.1 million job openings. So this is a good economy. It’s getting better. Once we get the big, beautiful bill done, you’re going to see one of the biggest booms you ever saw in this country. So I reject this idea that this one statistic somehow suggests a bad economy. Now, on the Fed lowering rates, you know, I’m of mixed minds on this. I don’t want to see it.
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Oh, no, because that was the money clip I wanted to find out about the feds and the interest rates. We’ll try to reconnect with Steve Moore. Again, he was so kind to hop on in the airport with us. And sometimes I’m sure he’s on his iPhone and he’s got his earbuds there. And it was going great until it didn’t. It worked until it didn’t. So once we get him back, we’ll let him finish that thought. on the interest rates because I don’t get that. And President Trump is clearly frustrated with Jerome Powell. And so we lost you there, Steve, but let’s pick up where you left off because this is the money clip. I want to know what you think about Jerome Powell not lowering the rates.
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So I think that I would be cautious right now about lowering rates. The inflation rate’s running at about 2.5%, which is a lot lower than it was under Biden when it was 9%. But I don’t want to see inflation come back. Remember what the Fed did under Biden, just flooded the economy with money to pay for the $6 trillion spending spree. And that’s why we had the highest inflation since any president since Jimmy Carter. So I want to make sure we have a high employment, low inflation economy. That’s what Trump is giving us. Look, I think almost everything Trump is doing, and by the way, I’m not a big tariff guy, Mike. I’m not a huge fan of tariffs, but I like everything else the guy is doing. And if he gets these trade deals done with China, with the UK, with the Europeans, with Japan, Korea, I mean, I’m going to say it again. We’re going to have the biggest booming economy you ever saw. You know, my book that I wrote that Donald Trump wrote the forward to and I wrote with this our laugher is called The Trump Economic Miracle. And that’s what we’re going to get.
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Right. Of course we are. The only thing that’s getting in the way of that now is us getting in the way of ourselves and tripping all over ourselves and battling Trump on this bill. Final question, Steve, and I’ve got to ask you this. Sorry to pull you back into the Elon Trump drama, but look, you know these guys. You crunch the numbers. You’re so highly respected. And incidentally, I admire you so much and always appreciate you making time for us. Thank you, Mike. And our audience appreciates you very much. Could this be… A good cop, bad cop scenario where Trump and Elon are kind of in on this and this is kind of, this is performative. Is that a possibility, Steve?
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Well, I don’t know. Look, let’s face it. These are two of the most accomplished people that ever walked on the planet Earth. And I love them both. And you got two. Let’s face it. They’re two super egos. You know, they both want to be the alpha male in the room. And so I think there’s a little bit of a personality clash here. But but look, we could use a lot more Elon Musk. We could use a lot of more Donald Trump. I just want to relate to you one last thing. The one thing that worries me, and I’m very bullish, we’ve got to get this debt under control. We’ve got to have the work requirements for Medicaid. How about this, Mike? You and I should start. Why can’t we just cut every single federal program by 10% across the board right now?
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Amen. And it can be done. They can do it. And they can make this bill better. Let’s get her done. And Stephen Moore, safe travels to Dallas and beyond. And thank you for taking time for us here on the Mike Gallagher Show. Keep fighting the good fight, Steve. Love your show, Mike, anytime. Take care. Have a great day. Love your insights. And Stephen Moore helping us out because, look, I’m lost on this interest rate. I wish Jerome Powell would just say, okay, cry uncle and give President Trump what he’s demanding. All right. What is Trump demanding of Elon Musk? Where do we go from here? What do you make of all this? 800-655-MIKE. 18 past the hour here in the Relief Factor studios. It is a big breaking news bombshell day. Elon goes off the reservation, goes scorched earth over the big, beautiful bill. Who’s right? Who’s wrong? Where do you stand? 800-655-6453. Let’s put your voice front and center here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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He’s the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here’s Mike.
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I think one of the smartest things I’ve heard today is from a guy in Arizona who said, look, nothing wrong with a little friendly disagreement in MAGA world. We’re not all in lockstep, and we never have been. And to those who accuse us of being brainwashed or members of a cult, look, Elon Musk’s bombshell, just eviscerating the big, beautiful bill, is an example of smart people who want more than what Trump’s bill, his signature legislative achievement, is delivering. Here’s another smart text I got from Columbia, South Carolina. It has taken the Democrats decades to do what they’ve done to America. Trump hasn’t been in office six whole months yet. People are so impatient, you’ve got to give President Trump time. We are all impatient. But Elon Musk went on a rampage on social media last night. Did you notice who didn’t go on a rampage? Did you notice who didn’t respond yet? President Trump. Look, a lot of smart people can disagree. And Americans are going to be asked to choose sides. Are you with Thomas Massey? Or are you with Scott Besson, the Treasury Secretary? Are you with Hakeem Jeffries? Or are you with Ron Johnson? Or Stephen Miller? Or Donald Trump? Here we go again, where President Trump has to navigate through these tricky waters. Running a country isn’t like running Tesla. I admire Elon Musk dramatically. But let’s face it, Elon Musk is a larger-than-life personality. Do you like the idea of fully funding the border? Do you like the idea… of a extraordinary scope, scale, and speed of removing illegals and criminal aliens from the United States. Stephen Miller makes the case. For that reason alone, Trump’s bill is the most essential piece of legislation currently under consideration in the entire Western world in generations. Stephen Miller is right. They’ve got to get this done. I’d like to ask you, what is the end game? What’s Rand Paul’s end game? Oh, he wants to make it better. Okay. If it doesn’t meet with his approval, do you want the bill to fail? Do you want the bill to fall on its face? Do you want the bill to be destroyed? Well, that would make this guy happy. If you’re cheering on Elon Musk… You’re on the side of Hakeem Jeffries.
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Breaking news. Elon Musk and I agree with each other. The GOP tax scam is a disgusting abomination. Every single Republican who voted for the one big, ugly bill should be ashamed of themselves.
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So, Elon Musk going rogue and leaving the White House and leaving the government position officially and blasting Trump’s bill is music to the Democrats’ ears. They don’t have the votes. Do you understand that? They can’t block it. Only Republicans can block it. It will not be perfect. It will increase our spending. It will add to the debt. And I trust the guy I enthusiastically voted for on November 5th to work on that as well. I’m just intrigued about the Democrats’ love affair with Elon. Because they used to love him before they hated him. Now that he’s gone rogue and he seems to have a disagreement with President Trump, does that mean they love Elon again? Are they all on board with Teslas? Are they all going to start buying Teslas? At least maybe they won’t start, you know, they’ll stop firebombing Teslas, huh? Maybe they’ll stop taking out their keys and damaging vehicles. Wow. So, look, I want to always turn to you. We could have a lot of smart people on this show, and we do. Stephen Moore, if you missed my interview with him, we’ll have it posted on the podcast. We’ll have it posted. We’ll have it up at MikeOnline.com, Salem News Channel. A lot of good people and a lot of smart people. I don’t accuse Elon Musk of not having the smarts. He’s one of the most successful businessmen on the planet. Of course he’s smart. You think he knows where all the political bodies are buried? He sure does not. You think he knows how Washington works? He certainly does not. You want to know who does now? President Donald J. Trump, again, believe in what you voted for. And don’t get squeamish now. Here’s a text from Georgia, from Atlanta. Elon should remember one thing. When you’re up to your neck in alligators, it’s hard to remember that your initial mission was to drain the swamp. Look, there is unquestionably… This is a bill that would have never even been possible in 2017. The big, beautiful bill, as Stephen Miller put it, was designed by President Trump and his allies in Congress to deliver on his core campaign pledges to voters, and that is exactly what it does. This is the most MAGA bill ever passed by the House. It’s not even close. Certain libertarians in Congress and others, he said, who are not MAGA, have their own agenda. And it’s not yours. Stephen Miller asked of Rand Paul, why doesn’t Rand ever fight this hard to deport illegals? Why aren’t certain libertarians in Congress more excited about this? You understand the bill completely funds the border. You understand this bill increases… The magnitude of speed and efficiency of removing illegals and criminal aliens from the United States. And final question before I turn it over to you at 800-655-MIKE. If Trump’s tax cuts become permanent, what do you think that’s going to do to the economy? I mean, right now, the numbers are good. As Stephen Moore told us earlier today, the numbers are good. They’ll be great. if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 pass. If it fails, watch this economy go down the toilet. I’ll bet you voted for Donald Trump for two reasons, the economy and illegal immigration. I promise you the big, beautiful bill will implement that beyond your wildest imagination. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. You’re not going to get everything. We’re not going to get everything we want. We’re not going to curb spending overnight. It’s taken them a lot of years to do this damage to our economy. Don’t expect Trump to fix it in five months. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Do you know what kind of economy we’re going to have? when these tax cuts are made permanent. And nobody’s disputing that’s in the bill. Nobody’s disputing fully funding the border. That’s why the Democrats are on board with Elon Musk. So Elon Musk and Thomas Massey and Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, they’re all on board together. They’re on the same page. Now, they have different reasons. To be clear, the Democrats are opposed to it because they’re terrified of what’s already in it. Doesn’t that tell you something? Check out Chuck Schumer from New York.
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How does Musk’s opposition change your approach to fighting this bill?
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Well, Musk’s opposition shows how bad, if even Elon Musk, who’s been part of the whole process and is Trump’s buddy, says the bill is bad, you can imagine how bad this bill is.
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Look, there’s a uniqueness. There’s one unique characteristic to everybody pushing back. They’re not, I guarantee you, they’re not loyal to the Trump mandate and agenda. We gave him a mandate. He’s trying to implement it. Get out of his way. Stay in your lane, Elon. Stay in your lane to people who are pushing back. Either believe in them or you don’t. And the Democrats, they want skyrocketing taxes. They’ll celebrate a crashing economy. They’re livid right now at the economy today. And the economy today, his economy continues to provide amazing news for the American people. The new inflation numbers, another decline in rising prices, an increase in personal income, record increases. A lot of good things are happening. Take a breath. Be patient. Don’t overreact. 800-655-MIKE. I hope you’re going to call on your Pure Talk phone. They’re my wireless company. They’re a company led by a veteran. They believe every man and woman who has faithfully served America deserves to proudly fly an American flag that was made right here in the U.S. of A. That’s why Pure Talk is on a mission to give an allegiance flag, which is the highest quality American flag, to 1,000 U.S. veterans in time for the patriotic holidays. Hey, Fourth of July is going to be here before you know it. Flag Day, the U.S. Army’s birthday. Trump’s birthday, all that’s coming up. Switch your cell phone service to Pure Talk this month, and a portion of every single sale will go to provide these high-quality flags to deserving veterans. They have plans from just $25 a month for unlimited talk, text, and plenty of data, and you’ll be on America’s most dependable 5G network while cutting your cell phone bill in half. Dial pound 250 and just say the keyword Mike Gallagher. Pure Talk’s customer service team, based right here in the U.S. of A., will get you switched hassle-free in minutes. Again, dial pound 250 and when prompted, just say the keyword Mike Gallagher and support veterans. Get them a beautiful flag and switch to my wireless company, America’s wireless company, Pure Talk. mike gallagher every day mike visits with mark davis morning host on 6 60 a.m the answer in dallas here’s today’s eminem experience i’ve been thinking a lot about it this morning um in fact there was some reporting that was just repeated from axios mark caputo was sharing remember the screaming match that scott besant and elon got into outside the oval office and well it was not denied by the White House. In fact, Caroline Leavitt was asked about it, and she didn’t deny it. So it did happen. And evidently, one of the things Scott Besson said to Elon is, you’re a fraud. You promised $2 trillion in cuts. Then it was $1 trillion. Then it turned into $500 billion. Now it’s $150. You’re a fraud. And then, of course, Elon got into his face and said, you’re a failed hedge fund manager. And it was very personal. And I’ve known bosses like Trump who like that kind of tension. They think it brings out the best in warring sides. But here’s what I think we have to consider about Elon. First of all, hope everybody’s paying attention as you’re rallying around Elon at Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. Yes. And all of the Democrats are lining up. Oh, Elon is right. Oh, he’s right. So guess what? Democrats are voting in your poll that Elon is a brave, courageous truth teller to now. Because you know why? Because they don’t want the bill because they’re terrified of border security. They’re terrified of all the things in it. They’re terrified of codifying and making permanent the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. So I want to push back gently with love to you and all your listeners. as Elon went through all these late-night dissing texts and tweets, and he keeps dissing Trump in these new posts. President Trump, incidentally, oddly quiet about it right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, which is, I think, which is a signal. It’s telling. I want you to continue your premise, but Trump, well, first of all, I don’t think Trump, one of the big things last night was, what’s the running clock before Trump says, I never knew him, I don’t know who this guy is, and I don’t think that’s going to happen, nor do I think it’s a psyop. Nor do I think they were being played here. I just think there’s a way for Elon’s purity of purity of perception. And I think where you’re going to go is he just doesn’t understand the governmental system and is not ultimately being helpful. But I think there’s a way for all this to work out. Let me let you continue.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there better be a way for it to work out because I’m going to go to what we need to go to. What’s the end game? You and I, I think, rightfully ask often about issues like, for example, the war with Ukraine and Russia. What’s the end game? We keep writing blank checks to Vladimir Zelensky. What’s the end game? You think Ukraine’s going to beat Russia? No. You think we’re going to get into a war with Russia? So what is the end game? And we ask that a lot, and I think it helps add clarity to the debate. Well, let’s do the end game game on this. If the bill fails… What do you think is going to happen, Mark? If it’s not good enough for the Elons and the Thomas Massys and the Ron Johnsons of the world, what are we left with? Let me tell you what we’re left with. Shattering the Trump agenda. Obliterating the Trump mandate. And you’re right, if it does come down to Elon versus Trump, I’m with Trump every day of the week. Let’s talk about a business person like Elon. He’s brilliant. He has turned so much around. But he sees things from the eyes of somebody who has not been president for four and a half years. He doesn’t know really how the sausage is made. We got a guy with steel you-know-whats in the Oval Office who’s trying to make chicken salad from a bowl of chicken you-know-what. Here’s my… With love admonition this morning, stay in your lane, Elon. Back off and let President Trump try to navigate this. Now, I’m open to one thing, and I want to get off my soapbox here and ask you about this theory. But I wonder if Donald Trump isn’t in on this with Elon Musk.
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Which is exactly where a lot of people are going. If it’s binary, if we got a pick going all in with Elon or all in with Trump. I think it’s possible for Elon to be right about this and yet still say, hey, you ain’t President Trump. There’s more good than bad in the bill, and the bill needs to pass, and the failure of the bill might lead to our failure in the midterm. So you’ve got to look at the big picture. And for our buddy Elon, there’s an old saying, I don’t know who coined this. Let everything you say be truth, but not all truths need to be spoken all the time. That’s right. Indeed, Elon is fiscally correct and right. When you were talking 60 seconds ago about how he comes in with a kind of a neophyte perception of how he is. His clear eye, his fresh eyes have been of enormous value in finding government waste. Doge is great. It needs to continue. Let’s get to that $2 trillion that he talked about. But it also means you’re kind of a babe in the woods as far as how things actually happen. And you know who it reminds me of? A very different character, Ross Perot. who said, I’m going to put up the hood. Let’s take a look. I’m doing Dana Carvey doing Ross Perot. And God bless Ross Perot, but government’s not a business. It never will be. There’s principles of business. Don’t spend money you don’t have, blah, blah, blah. But government is not. You can’t snap a finger, write a memo, gather the team, and change things overnight.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, Elon is very frustrated. That’s very obvious. It’s clear he’s frustrated now. And we all are. But I think he’s got a whole different level of frustration. It was reported that Tesla sales were down 45 percent in the month of May. Now, I hate that for him, but he’s got his hands full. He leaves the White House and he has absolutely damaged himself in a massive way. And and shame on the loony left.
SPEAKER 07 :
Business-wise?
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Business-wise, his brand. I mean, if it’s true, 45%, Mark, that’s not nothing. And he’s got to get back to work. So he knows that, and he’s got to fix that. He’s got a fiduciary responsibility to turn his companies back. And I think they’re going to come back. But he’s just frustrated. And we get all of that. I get that. I admire him and I respect him. But I think he’s got to back off and stay in his lane. Because, again, you said something a moment ago that really struck with me. You think there’ll be more good than bad in this bill. Well, there definitely is more.
SPEAKER 07 :
There’s totally more.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, all right. Well, let’s look at that. Let’s do a deep dive on that. If the more good, the absolute secure border, the tax cuts made permanent, but if that still comes with a heavy deficit price, how do you determine what’s more good than bad? Because what Thomas Massey is saying and what Elon Musk is saying is to hell with the border security. There’s too much spending.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Forget the tax cuts. We’ve got too much spending. And so this is the problem we have. And this is what I’m we got to be careful here not to get, you know, swept away by the dreamy, you know, rantings of Elon Musk here. He might be saying, forget it. Let the bill crash and burn, burn it all down and the and the Trump agenda because they didn’t give us enough. That’s a mistake, Mark.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s a big mistake. And it’s a product of the business versus government mindset. That’s right. That Walter Isaacson biography of Elon. I recommend it because everything Elon does, I can find like page 275. There’s something in there. He welcomes business failure. He learns from every business failure. Let some rocket design happen. absolutely blow up on the pad. Fine. Back to square one. Let’s see what we do. That ain’t how government works. Government is very incremental. You can’t really have a big… For us to have this rocket blow up on the pad, we can’t turn it around fast enough and make everything hunky-dory by the midterms. We’re going to be gauged very slavishly, very… minutely by millions of people, whether Trump is able to deliver. What’s the measure of every politician? Can you deliver on what you promised? And from full border wall funding to tax cuts to any one of a number of other things that are in the big, beautiful bill, if this thing fails, there’s going to be hell to pay.
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