In this episode, Bill Gundersen discusses pivotal market events, highlighting the influence of NVIDIA's latest earnings report on the market landscape. Discover how key earnings reports can impact investor confidence and what NVIDIA's performance means for tech investors. This lively discussion provides insights into the recent judicial ruling on tariffs and its potential economic impact. The hosts explore the broader economic trends, such as employment data and consumption patterns, providing listeners with a thorough understanding of current economic indicators. Tune in for an engaging conversation full of expert analysis on stock valuations and learn about the investment strategies that may best navigate today's uncertainties. Gain insider perspectives on maintaining stability and growth in your investment portfolio, no matter what the market throws your way.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday. It is Thursday, May 29th. Live edition of the Best Stocks Now show. Well, you know, I was expecting a big rally in the market here this morning. I don't know where it went. Nvidia had one heck of a good report last night. We are up, but not as much as the futures would have suggested. The Dow's up just 57 points right now. That's a measly 14 basis points. That puts the Dow at 42,155. The NASDAQ, which was up almost 300 or 400 last night, of course, that's futures, all right? That's not the real deal. The NASDAQ is up 115 right now, mostly NVIDIA. That's 58 basis points to the upside for the NASDAQ. The S&P is up 28. Half a percent. We've got the bond market hanging in there. It's down a couple of basis points right now. We're at 4.44% on the 10-year right now. Gold is off having a decent day today. It's up 64 basis points. That's about the best mover so far from a percentage point of view. Gold is at $3,300. And $16 per ounce. Oil, $61.23. That's good for the gas pump there. And Bitcoin is down $844 right now, but it is clear up at $107. 637 as we begin a new day. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management and Barry Kite is back with us here today after some graduation activities yesterday. Some cap and gown type stuff there and hopefully everybody's on the right track. They're your family, Barry.
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Yeah, back in the saddle. We've got a senior who's graduating on Saturday, and then we had one who got really promoted. He's got a little ways to go still. But it was good, and, of course, glad to get back in the saddle. And things have got to finish off the day with some NVIDIA earnings, some light reading after the bell yesterday.
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I'm disappointed, though. I mean, the futures were way up last night. on the news. And then there was other news about a federal judge blocking Trump's tariffs. You know, this is not a good situation. This has got to be resolved. I'm glad it's in front of the Supreme Court right now. How can you have one or two federal judges block everything, the will of the people, the will of the president, the will of the administration? Something's got to give there. That's got to be resolved. That is maddening. At least it's maddening to me. Maybe you're glad that maybe you out there in the listening audience are glad that one judge can step in and block the whole country, it seems. It just seems absolutely ridiculous to me. But anyways, look, we had a fairly down day yesterday as the market awaited the biggest earnings report of them all, the granddaddy of them all, the NVIDIA earnings report. And I thought it was an absolutely sensational report. NVIDIA is doing well today. But, you know, the problem is that that's about all that's doing well today. Nothing else is really joining in. And NVIDIA, which was up almost 6%, is now up just 3.8%. That's still a nice move, 3.8%. But definitely I've seen some selling coming into this big, bold move that NVIDIA had made.
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uh in the after hours and opening up it's it's well off of its high for the morning uh and i'm not quite sure what it is other than uh maybe this tariff confusion yeah it's been you know since you're i know you've mentioned the futures of you know it's kind of this weird dynamic where you had great nvidia report right and the futures were were looking strong uh before uh you know before i went to bed last night and then this morning you had the Actually, the market got a pop from the ruling simply because it could potentially pause the tariffs or put them off for a little bit. But then it turns out, I heard Navarro speak this morning, there's other ways that they have. They're trying to do it this way, they can go this other route and still end up with the um you know same place they wanted to be in terms of you know in terms of the tariffs or the threat of tariffs right and so yeah that seems then we got yeah well then we got that monthly uh you know that monthly jobs number i think it was you know 240 000 10 000 higher than expected and so you know kind of the story went from you know the great invidia earnings to you know are we seeing a slowdown in you know in employment potentially right well i mean that does kind of explain the seesaw action that we've seen in the last one hour really in the last one hour
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I mean, the market was kind of cheering that it was actually a three-judge panel at the U.S. Court of International Trade. I didn't even know we had such a thing, but we're finding out, learning all kinds of things. They're saying that Trump's tariffs were not legal. Well, that's hard for me to believe. That's hard for me to digest. You know, it just seems like these federal judges' moves are political moves. And they declared them on. Well, the market immediately cheered that news because the market would just rather see this whole tariff thing just go away and be done with. But, you know, I mean, Trump ran on this agenda, and he's determined to bring about a more fair trading, you know, atmosphere around the world, one where countries that are charging us tariffs, well, we're going to turn around and charge you tariffs unless you get rid of them. But it's been one hurdle, one obstacle right after another, no matter what he does. And then, of course, Navarro, like you said, came right back and said, well, we've got ten other ways around these three judges at the U.S. Court of International Trade. Look that up and see where it's headquartered. You would think it would be in Washington, D.C., but I have no idea. Maybe it's in San Francisco. I don't know. But a three-judge panel, we'll find out where the U.S. Court of International Trade is. Well, I mean, if what they rule, that would mean that most of Trump's hefty levies, including fentanyl-based levies on Canada, Mexico, and China, cannot go into effect. I'm telling you. So that obviously would take away one of his quickest negotiating tools to govern trade. Stocks were applauding the move, but then all of a sudden everything turned around, and now we've pretty much lost.
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It's like it's New York, New York potentially.
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Well, okay. I mean, there have been plenty of rulings that have gone against Trump in the New York court system there, but this is a federal judge's here that seemed to be – You know, it's not too hard to find judges that don't like Trump and rule against him. And, you know, Trump is trying to declare that it's a national emergency, that it's killing our middle America, this and that. So it just puts – here's the word the market doesn't like. It's uncertainty. Uncertainty. And this puts a whole big dose of uncertainty. Now, one thing that is certain, the initial jobless claims are certain. They did come in, as you say, at 240,000. That's still way low.
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It's still below that 300,000 that is really kind of when you start piling up there. The other piece was the continuing claims, I think, increased to 1.91 million, which I think is one of the higher numbers that we've had since COVID. But It just means hiring has slowed down a bit. It doesn't mean that hiring is going in the other direction. We're still cutting net job gains.
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I'm not seeing the weakness show up as I travel to the airport, as I travel to Cleveland, as I stay at hotels, as I eat out at restaurants, as I go shopping to my various destinations. I'm not seeing it at all. But 240 really is a pretty benign number. But it is a little bit elevated from the previous numbers. We had Q1 GDP. They've revised that a little bit. It was only minus 0.2. And wasn't that all the front-running and the trade that caused that negative? Yeah, because it increased the trade deficit.
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Yeah, essentially if your net exports or net imports in this case ends up being a negative number counting against... The rest of your consumption and growth. So that's how we ended up with that.
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That's how we ended up with a negative number. I would not expect two negative numbers in a row, which equals a recession. That number in the first quarter of this year was an expanded trade deficit because of all the front running and buying of goods. before the tariffs were to be levied on them so anyways it was a little bit better it was 0.3 minus and out minus 0.2 okay nvidia is the big story today obviously and we continue to be very bullish on nvidia i hope you read my article on it that was published on uh tuesday we'll be right back And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Well, first I'm just going to mention some earnings that are going to come in tonight. Costco, Marvell, Dell, Zscaler, and UiPath. And actually those are some pretty important ones. So we'll keep an eye on that one. Now let's go to what Peter Navarro is saying. I personally am not a big Peter Navarro fan. But, you know, he says there's no question that there's an economic emergency. He's citing the fentanyl. He says that in a Bloomberg surveillance podcast interview, I guess which just aired, he emphasized that the tariffs were implemented to address what he described as as an economic emergency related to fentanyl trafficking from China and unfair trade practices. He says there's no question there's an economic emergency. And then he follows up with this. He says we've got courts. in this country who are basically engaged in attacks on the American people, he said. The judiciary in this country has been weaponized in ways which are contrary to their interest. Well, I do agree with him on that point. And that very issue is before the Supreme Court. And hopefully they will come up with a decision that reflects whatever the founding fathers intended. I'm not so sure the founding fathers... Wanted to give a federal judge that kind of power, depending on whatever his or her politics are, but that seems to be the case right now. I'm not happy. I want to see it resolved myself. And in the meantime, the market is not happy, and it's causing turmoil in the markets here today.
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Well, and from a negotiation standpoint, right, it actually impedes potentially our negotiation leverage, right? If you've got courts that can stop it, well, then if we're using tariffs as a potential negotiating tool, right, or to negotiate down from, well, then if you avoid them or not allow them, well, then you don't – it kind of deteriorates our –
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Well, I mean, you could go back.
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In terms of negotiation.
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Yeah, you could use an extreme case. FDR declared war on Japan after Pearl Harbor. What if a federal judge stepped in and said, oh, no, no, he's going outside of his powers here. He can't declare war on Japan. You know, it was almost as bad as they shipped out all of those people that had committed crimes, were here illegally and committed crimes. And a federal judge orders the plane to turn around and bring those people back and distribute them amongst the neighborhoods where they came from. It's just ridiculous. Something's got to give. And I hope sooner rather than later. Senators Warren and Banks criticize NVIDIA's plans for a Chinese facility. Okay, well, you know, I mean, he's been to the White House, Jensen Wang, and his claim is that China's going to come up with whatever they need, with or without NVIDIA. So NVIDIA may as well be involved in the process there, NVIDIA, not be cut out of the market. So you can see it from Jensen Wang's point of view. I don't think you're going to keep China from getting the chip power that they need to power their own AI. And I see that DeepSeek recently unveiled an update to their AI model, R1, as competition heats up. And it's very competitive. This AI is a real deal. I don't know that it's going to end up well, but it's the real deal. As far as investing in it, it's the real deal. I don't care if it's the nuclear stocks, the chip stocks, the networking stocks that are involved in it. It's the real deal as far as investing goes. Trump administration cancels Sunnova's $2.9 billion government loan guarantee. Sunnova's declared bankruptcy. It's a solar player. Now, Barry, I want you to write down the date today. It's May 29th. How long before a federal judge overrules and says you've got to give them the $2.9 billion government loan guarantee? Now, it's been my observation over the years that alternative renewable energy has been kind of a black hole where a lot of money has gone into. A lot of favors have been paid to folks, investors, et cetera. I mean, why do I say that? I'm the guy that was on with Megyn Kelly, I don't know, a decade ago, talking about the Solyndra out in the Bay Area. Even though that's not my area of expertise, I do watch publicly traded companies and private companies and where these funds are going and the business world in general. And I knew that that thing was fraudulent and it certainly was. So I'm not a big fan of billions and billions of dollars going into a black hole into the green energy movement. And of course, it's just a matter of time before a federal judge steps in. And of course, Biden took the other side of the coin. He was doling out money to green energy companies and guaranteed loans. Argentina bank stocks slide after report that the government intervened in the currency markets. Now that's our friend. Elvis down there in Argentina, Chainsaw, the Chainsaw guy. You know, Argentina has been the best performing market in the world this year, along with, I think, some of these European countries, you know, with their financials. But Argentina is infamous for currency interventions, defaulting on bonds, all kinds of things.
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They've had a few currency crises over the years. Yes. Usually involves... It usually involves regime change.
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Yeah, it usually involves a big default on bonds and start over again. But I see that the Argentine ETF is only down 1.3%, so it can't be that big. Three dead in Chevron's Angola oil platform fire. I can't imagine a worse job than a helicopter dropping you off in the ocean on a platform. Good luck, guys, you know, and then flying away, and there you are stuck on an oil platform. and a fire breaks out. Who do you call? Well, there's three dead in Angola on this Chevron platform. There's some risky job occupation right there working on these platforms. Tesla eyes June 12th as the launch date for its robo-taxi service in Austin. Well, you know, the market's been waiting a long, long time for Tesla's robo-taxi service and the cars that they're going to use. In the meanwhile, Tesla has been a hot stock. It's hard to justify the P.E. ratio of 169 on Tesla. It was just yesterday that Tesla reported their European sales were down. Did you see that? 49% year over year. Well, in Europe. Yeah, Europe. Well, Europe's bringing in Chinese cars, and they're anti-Elon Musk after his Doe Jeffers. Yet the stock has gone from 214 to 361 recently. We'll be right back. But it must have used the wrong line.
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I've been on the right trail. But it must have used the wrong car. Hit us in a bad way.
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And I wonder what it's good for. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. We're going to get to the biggest story of the day.
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Which, you know, maybe these other stories are bigger. I don't know. But everybody was looking ahead to the NVIDIA report last night. And, you know, I saw it come in, and it was better than expected. And NVIDIA was up. It was up 6.5%, something like that, at one point in time. It's come back. I mean, almost everything in the market's come back quite a bit from the highs prior to the open of the market today. But now NVIDIA's up 4.3%. NVIDIA shares rose in extended trading and, of course, this morning after the Jensen Wang-led company reported fiscal first quarter results and guidance that topped expectations despite the impact of added export control curbs to China. The company earned 81 cents per share on an adjusted basis. At the same time, revenue sales surged 69% year over year. Not bad for a $3.4 trillion company. Now, their earnings only grew by 33%. But that still beat all the estimates. Their data center revenue jumped 73% year over year. And, of course, at the end of our article that was published on Tuesday. Was it Tuesday? Yes.
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Yeah, it was Tuesday. It's been a whirlwind, but yeah. It's been a whirlwind of a whirlwind already. It seems only two days ago, but it seems like it was a long time ago.
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I'm just going to read my comments here on NVIDIA, which number one, I thumped my chest a little bit on calling the bottom of the market during the darkest hour of the market, which I've done four times now in the past. And at the end of the article, I haven't read the comments. There's 110. I'm sure they're quite nasty. They usually are.
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They're lovely. I was peeking at a few.
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The good part is they're all wrong, and I'm right. So who the heck cares, you know? But I said at the end of the article, towards the end, I said the portfolios that I manage have rebounded sharply off their lows, which they have. Stocks like Palantir, CrowdStrike, CoreWeave, NVIDIA, Netflix have helped to lead the comeback. One company that has benefited enormously from the last two-plus months and all that has happened is NVIDIA. I'm quoting from the article. NVIDIA reported positive earnings in February, reinforcing its strength in its market position as a global GPU vendor. Investor confidence in the company helped the stock to rebound quickly when the market value dropped below $100. You could have picked it up for under $100 per share during that early March time period. But I said analysts still predict further gains in the stock for the year as NVIDIA continues to dominate the semiconductor market. And I would continue to say, as I look at the semiconductor sector, whether you're looking at the SOX, which is the semiconductor index, whether you're looking at SMH, which is the semiconductor ETF, in my mind, there's only one good stock in the semiconductor sector. There's a lot of good companies, but only one good stock, and that is NVIDIA by far. You know, you could maybe make a case for Broadcom and Marvell. Those would be the other two in my book. But Nvidia is our largest holding. It continues to be. And I went on to say in my article, it remains a favorite of ours and ranks favorably among other stocks. When I wrote the article on Monday, it was ranked number 148 out of 5,094 stocks. Here is why. And then I showed the performance of the stock. Over the last 10 years, 74.5% per year. That has been the compound average return of the stock, which pays a tiny little dividend, 74.5% per year for the last 10 years. That puts it at the top of the class. That's why we've called it the best stock in the entire market several times over the last several years. During that same period of time, the S&P has averaged 17. Okay, over the last three years, Nvidia's averaged 71% per year. Actually, that's five years. Three years is a 98%, and over the last 12 months, it has definitely leveled off, but it's still up 26% over the last 12 months, while the S&P's up 10. And most of that has been because of the China issue. Okay, and then I went on to say in the article, in addition to performance, I like to see at least 80% or more upside potential. And I put a screenshot from the app showing 118% potential over the next five years. And I know what you're going to say. Bill, that would put this stock at over $7 billion in market capitalization. Well, look, I'm just a math guy. That's all I do is take the numbers and apply them to where the earnings are today, and I apply the estimated five-year growth rate over the next five years. You can extrapolate that out on a napkin. You don't need a quantum supercomputer to do it. You probably do it in your head. I can do it in my head. And then I apply a reasonable multiple, not 100, not 200, not even 50, a reasonable multiple to those numbers. And I come up with a target price. This is based on actual numbers that are out there. And of course, they're estimates, obviously. But I come up with 118% upside potential and a $285 target price five years from now. And obviously, the app had a buy rating on the stock right now. And that's what I published on Tuesday in Tuesday's article. Now, you can go to that article and read it for yourself. It's on Seeking Alpha. It's titled, Are the Tariffs Turning Out All Right? The aftermath of our positive stance on Trump tariffs. That was back on March 8th at the very bottom and the darkest day in the market of 2025. Once again, we called the exact bottom of the market and threw in a winner for you. What more can you ask for? When's your next article? Well, we'll probably put a little more color onto this NVIDIA numbers now that we have them. and polish up our numbers a little bit going forward. But we obviously remain bullish on NVIDIA. It's our biggest position. I've never seen a stock go from a company with just a graphic card to the Dow. It's in the Dow. I was shocked when they added it to the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
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And the forward PE ratio is still very palatable, too, when you think about earnings growth. It's a 32 forward PE at the moment.
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It, along with Palantir, are the two best technology stocks in the world today. There's a lot of also-rans and ones that are good stocks in the tech sector, but those are the two most dominant stocks in the tech sector today. And I stand by what I say. It's not IBM, and guess what? It's not Hewlett-Packard. Did you see Hewlett-Packard's earnings? Talk about a soggy, soggy stock. Now listen, there was a day when Hewlett-Packard and Intel dominated the Silicon Valley. That was a long time ago. and uh... this is now twenty twenty five and uh... when we come back we'll talk a little bit about some of the also ran companies that also reported earnings yesterday and let's not forget that another member of the dow reported earnings one that i am cool on you know i've looked at it several times i thought about adding it to our dividend paying portfolio because it does pay a dividend But I just can't make a valuation case for the stock more than 70% upside potential, somewhere in there, maybe 75%. And that's Salesforce, CRM. And every time I go to make a case for it and try to talk myself into adding it to the dividend-paying portfolio, I say, no, I can't do it because I can't justify I don't have that 80% to 85% upside potential. And guess what? I was right. Bill was right again. Salesforce is down 6.1% today, which is not helping the Dow. Salesforce is a very good company. But it's not a very good stock anymore. Their sales were up 8% single digits, and their earnings were up 6% single digits. That stock has come back to earth, which eventually all stocks do. We'll be right back.
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On a winter's day.
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And welcome back here to the Best Stocks Now show. Final segment of the show. Man, this has been a fast-moving hour. Where did the time go? Ah, okay. Well, let's look at a few other earnings. But I think I just want to reiterate what I said here before we went to break. And that is that, you know, Salesforce... The force is not with it right now. I mean, it's a single-digit grower, 6% growth in sales, 8% growth in earnings, and that does not justify those glamour multiples that it's traded at. In the past, it is a member of the Dow. It's better than most stocks in the Dow, but it doesn't meet our criteria. HP falls after potential impacted tariffs on Outlook. Keeps analysts cautious. All right, now. Just for fun. I'm afraid to look. I've never owned Hewlett Packard. I don't think in my entire career. I'm sure there are those of you out there that remember. And I do remember when it was a powerhouse.
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I know we've bought a lot of ink over the years.
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You know, I'd say that's one problem. I bought one of those ones where you buy the whole bottle of ink that goes in. I've never had to replace those. Right. So I don't know where they're making their money anymore. But anyways, this is the HPQ is the hardware version of HP. They split up like several companies have done over the years into a service division and their hardware division. An investment in Hewlett Packard 10 years ago, it doesn't look that bad. But it's getting worse is the problem. 9.3% per year is what I show, and the S&P has been 17.8. Over the last five years, I showed 13.4% per year total return, S&P 18.9. But now it gets really bad. Now it's really gone soggy. It's gone from soggy to soggier to maybe soggiest. I don't know. It's really soggy. Over the last three years, you've lost 8% per year in Hewlett Packard. Maybe it's a potential turnaround play. But, you know, there are some things that are so far gone. Intel comes to mind. I thought GE had reached that point until finally Larry Cope came along. Many guys had tried to turn GE around in the past and failed. Hewlett Packard has had its share of potential turnarounds. Didn't you have Carly Fiorina in there?
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Yeah, had a lot of CEOs that were supposed to make this thing anew, and it still hasn't materialized.
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Carly Fiorina ended up running for president. Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. And Trump kept making fun of her facelift and, you know, I mean, just the normal stuff. And then, of course, I think Meg Whitman ran Hewlett-Packard maybe for a while. She came from eBay. She ran for governor of California. Of course, her being a conservative, she did not have a chance. And I think she failed to make a dent in it. Over the last 12 months, the stock's down 14%. It's just an abysmal stock. Yet, what's the institutional ownership of Hewlett-Packard? That's what I was actually.
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You beat me to it. That's what I was thinking.
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I bet it's pretty heavy. I mean, these are the kind of stocks they love. Big names that have been around for a long time. Dinosaur-like earnings and growth just stuck in the mud. It's trading at a P.E. ratio of 8. What do you show as the institutional sponsorship one?
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Popping up right now, 80%.
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There you go. So somebody owns these stocks, and when it's institutions, generally speaking, you're talking the big firms, okay? Your big wire house firms. And I've obviously seen it show up in lots of portfolios that has transferred to me. And you say, well, Bill, why would they own a stock that's hitting new lows? that's tried about every ceo out there turnaround expert nothing's worked they do you have to ask them because it's a recognizable name that people feel comfortable with that pretty much don't know very much about how you value stocks how important growth is you know they just know the name they just know the the company by the name okay now the next one here that we'll bring up here AI, they got the symbol AI, and it's having a great day. Their sales were up 26%. They're not profitable yet, but that stock's up 29% here so far. It's only a $3.9 billion company. It's very small, small cap. The symbol is AI. It's having a good day. Then there's Box. Box is a software stock. Is that the old Square? No. No, Square is still SQ. Or is it? Oh, no, Square is Block. That's it. Yeah, Block. Okay, Box is a software company. It's up. It had a big day yesterday. I can't figure out why. It's a cloud-based stock. They've got single-digit growth, but they crushed their estimates. So, okay, it is what it is. I don't have any interest. And then another two others here in the last two minutes. Macy's dying a slow death. You know, it's just a little by little. It gets whittled away at. It's now $3.3 billion. Small cap stock. And the other one that has to have a lot of short interest is Kohl's, who actually beat their earnings estimates. It's now under a billion in market cap. It's a micro cap. It looks to me to be on a death spiral similar to the one that Bed Bath & Beyond was on. It's actually up 2.8% today. They lost less money than they expected to lose. There's the good news. Okay. And the good news is we're out of time and we've still got the four-week trial to the whole enchilada, the whole package, everything we offered other than the money management. That's our main gig at Gunderson Capital Management. And if you're stuck, if you see Hillel Packard in your portfolio or Macy's or Kohl's, I'd be pretty mad. Somebody's asleep at the wheel out there somewhere. Anyways, I see a lot of it. I see portfolios show up here all the time that are just full of stuff. I got one today that I got to go through, a couple of them, and do some heavy weeding. I've got my gardening gloves and my weed eater out and ready to go to work. Put me to work for you. Put the team to work for you. 855-611-BEST to set up an appointment. Say, I'm not going to put up with this mediocrity anymore. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and I'd like to welcome you back for 30 minutes of inspiration, some motivation, a whole lot of education, and obviously no manipulation. That's right. This is not a con game. We're not going to ask you for any money. We don't need to beg people to support us. I don't mean to put it like that, but we're not out trying to hustle money is what I'm trying to tell you. We're not asking you to join up, fess up, give up. We're just asking you to listen up. Listen as I teach the Word of God. And if you like it, if you can orient and adjust to God's plan, you'll find a wonderful life waiting you. We call our show the FLOT line, F-L-O-T. FLOT stands for the Forward Line of Troops. What we're basically doing is using a military analogy of how God's Word, especially 10 unique problem-solving devices, can form a main line of resistance in your soul, a flat line, forward line of troops. And that main line of resistance can stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside source of stress. That's why we always say adversity is inevitable, but stress is optional. And so you have to think to live. You have to be able to concentrate to live. That's why you'll hear me tell you constantly that God gave us two ends, one end we think with and one end we sit on. And success in life depends on which one of those you use. Heads, you'll win. Tails, you'll lose. So if you're going to think and understand how God's plan operates, the first thing you have to learn in Proverbs 3, 7, don't be wise in your own eyes. Don't be a delusional daydreamer. don't think that you're smarter than God. He put it all in writing, left it all in the scripture. It's all there. However, scoffers scoff at the Bible. Scoffers ignore the Bible, ignore the scriptures. And I pray that you don't do that. I pray you'll take a moment to listen, learn, and apply in your life these principles that we give you from the word of God. And oh, by the way, just briefly, These shows are all available in transcription form. We have them a year at a time. We're working on that now, and we will have the entire year of 2019 available. If you'd like to have the transcriptions of every show taught in 2019, write to us. Let us know. from our website it's free it costs you nothing and we'll be glad to send it to you free of charge and uh encourage you to continue uh praying for us as we look for new markets and to expand new territories where the lord would have us go with our radio show okay all right and by the way we do podcast all of these shows they are available on the podcast platform such as Apple iPod, Spotify, iPod, Anchor, any of these others like that. And if you'll just type in The Flotline in the search engine of the podcast, You'll find our radio shows, and you can listen to them anywhere in the world. We have listeners in Africa. We have listeners in Australia. We have listeners all over the world that just check in to the podcast and pick up the radio show that way. So you can hear it terrestrially in your own city as you may be listening to me right now over your radio station. You can hear it on streaming audio as the radio station puts it out on streaming audio over the Internet, or you can hear it on a podcast venue. And again, no charge for anything we do. If God's in it, he'll pay for it. If not, we'll stop. It's that simple. Okay, we've been talking about the love of God, God's love for you. We started that last week. And we're gonna continue that a little bit, talking about the divine love that God has for you. And we asked a question last week, what proof do you have that God loves you? Remember this, before we become a Christian, God loves us, but it's with an impersonal love. It's not based on who we are. It's based on who he is. That's why he said, God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son and the world is me and you. And he loved us even though we were not his children, even though we were not born again believers, he loved us with an impersonal love. And then once we believe in Jesus Christ and receive him as our savior, We're brought into the royal family of God, adopted in, made heirs to all that Christ is heir to, and now the personal love. Now God loves us with a personal love. So what proof do you have God loves you? Here it is. Someone once said he knows us better than we know our own selves. Yes, the scripture does indicate that. Listen to Psalm in review. I gave you this last week, but I'll give it to you again. Psalm 139, verses one through four. Psalm 139, verses 1 through 4, as the psalmist wrote that. Yes, God knew you in eternity past. He knew what you would be like. He determined a plan for your life. He provided a savior for your life. He provided all sorts of information and the potential for you to have an amazing life unless you ignore all of that. unless you get wise in your own eyes and scoff at God's plan and substitute your own plan. So the writer goes on to say, you formed me in my inward parts, Psalm 139, verse 13 and 14. You formed me in my inward parts. You covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise you. For I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are your works, and that my soul knows very well. So you and I, we are a product of a divine design. He designed us in eternity past, and he knows us perfectly well. He has a plan for our life. You want to hear your plan? I can give it to you right here. Jeremiah 29, 11 through 13, for I know the thoughts that I think towards you, says the Lord. He's thinking about you and me. Thoughts of peace, not of evil, to give you a future, to give you a hope, and then you will call upon me and go and pray to me, and I will listen to you, and you will seek me and find me when you search for me with all of your heart. These are the plans God has for you. I know the plans that Satan has for you. He's a liar, he's a deceiver, and he's a murderer. This is what Jesus said. But in 1 John 4, 9, by this the love of God was manifested in us that God sent his only begotten son into the world so that we might live through him. There it is, impersonal love of God motivating him to provide a savior for us. And in 1 John 4, 10, this is love. Not that we love God, but that he loved us, and I put in parentheses, first, and sent his son to be the propitiation for our sin. So God paid for our sin with his own son's life. That first demonstration of his love for us is grace. That's the first demonstration. God's grace to you and to me is an indication of his love for us. Point one, in order of the manifestation of God's purposes of salvation, grace must go before mercy. Grace has to come first for God's purposes. Grace before mercy. And then point two, peace is the result of grace and mercy. Peace with God, point three, is the reconciliation that we have to him. We are brought nearer to him through Christ. And point four, the act of Christ on the cross restored our relationship with God. And that's why Romans 5, 1 says, therefore being justified by faith, we now have peace with God through our Lord by means of, because of our Lord Jesus Christ. grace, mercy, and peace. That's the demonstration of God's love for you. His demonstration of mercy is the Hebrew word chesed, C-H-E-C-E-D. It's a word for kindness. Genesis 39, 21, the Lord showed mercy to Joseph and he's compassionate in Exodus 33, 19. Rakam, the Hebrew word for compassionate. the greek word elias or elio means to have pity and to be merciful to show compassion to those who have need in titus 3 5 listen carefully not by works of righteousness which we've done but and here it is listen carefully according to his mercy he saved us through the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the holy spirit which he poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord. This is mercy granted to you because of grace. That's how much God loves us. If you can capture that thought, if you can phantom that idea, God loves you so much that he gave his only begotten son. He was motivated by grace and mercy, and you have the peace that comes with it. Oh my gosh, don't ever forget that. He saved us according to his mercy. Hebrews 4.16, let us come boldly to the throne of grace so we can obtain mercy and find grace when we need help. One, mercy is an expression of God's love for us. And two, mercy is extended to each of us and it extends to each of us a forgiving hand. And that's the act of eternal kindness that God has for us. Three, mercy seen in the work of the cross, where he who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we may be made the righteousness of God through him. For mercy is an outward expression of God's perfect love, based on his perfect character, which includes justice and righteousness. The justice and righteousness of God, remember this, what the righteousness of God demands the justice of God provides. Justice is the guardian of God's righteousness, and these are all expressed in love. Mercy, peace, it all comes because he loves you. God's justice, God guards his righteousness, and this is why you can have, I don't mean to be complicated, but this is why you can have an eternal relationship with God. He who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we may be made, here it is, listen, the righteousness of God through him. This is the only way you can have a relationship with God to have perfect equal righteousness. And the only way you can have perfect equal righteousness is through Jesus Christ who gave himself as a ransom for our sin. He took our sin and gives us his righteousness. That's the expression of God's love for you in mercy and justice. Amazing the peace you can have. You can go through life knowing that God loves you. You can go through life knowing you have no fear of death. You can go through life knowing these things are written, the Bible says in 1 John. so that you might know that you have eternal life you don't have to hope it you don't have to wish it you can know it and that's a question i have for you right now do you know that for sure are you confident if you died today that you would go to heaven you don't think much about dying when you're young but once you hit 50 and then you get to 60 then you get to 70 The thought will cross your mind. I'm not going to be here forever. Where will you be after you die? Do you know that? Do you have confidence that you're going to heaven? You can always settle it. You can do it at any time. You simply have to do what the Bible says. He that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. That's from the Bible. From the Bible, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. You make a decision to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, receive him as your Savior, and you always generally will express that in prayer, telling God the Father what you're doing. And this is a confidence we have in him. If we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. Yes, he will hear you. Yes, he will give you eternal life based on Christ. Not based on you, not based on how good you are, not based on the fact that you don't do any bad things anymore. Based on the fact that Christ paid for your sin. And when he walked out of that tomb alive three days later, the perfect indication that he conquered death. And proof to you and I that we, even though we may die to the flesh, that we will live forever in heaven in a resurrection body, just as our Lord does. An amazing thing. So this mercy that God gives is the understanding kindness. and the forgiveness to those that, like me, like you, we don't even deserve it. We don't even deserve it. That's how much mercy he gives us. It's giving undeserved kindness, giving forgiveness to us who don't deserve it. Likewise, the word of God directs us, you and I, to show mercy. to our fellow human beings who have needs. Romans 12, eight, show mercy with cheerfulness. And in the Bible in Matthew 18, 35, mercy is demonstrated in your life when you forgive people. Mercy is demonstrated in forgiveness. So, point five again, mercy is God giving undeserved kindness or forgiveness to those who don't deserve it. Point six, the word of God directs us to show mercy to our fellow human beings in need, Romans 12.8. And point seven, mercy is demonstrated in forgiveness, Matthew 18.35. Listen carefully to Lamentations 3, 22 and 23. The Lord's loving kindness indeed never ceases. That's his love for you. It never ceases. And his compassions, his mercies, never fail. They are new every morning. Great is his faithfulness. So his love will never fail. His mercies never fail. They're always there for you based on his justice and his righteousness because you have believed in Jesus Christ and accepted him as your savior. The Bible clearly says in Ephesians 2, 4, and 5, but because of his great love for us, God who is rich in mercy. Did you hear it? Because of his great love for us, God who is rich in mercy made us alive with Christ. Even when we were dead in transgressions, it's by grace you've been saved. Ephesians 2, 4, and 5. So, rich in mercy, made a provision because of grace, provided forgiveness through Christ, even though we were dead in transgressions and sin. There's no way we could save ourself. It's not possible. We were dead in transgressions and sin. So it's God's grace extended to us and mercy that gives us peace. Mercy, Elias, the Greek word, E-L-E-O-S. I refer to that because that's the way it's found in the New Testament, in the original languages of the New Testament. Mercy, Elias. One of the great minds of our times, the Vines New Testament Dictionary says, mercy is the outward manifestation of pity. It assumes need on the part of the one who receives it. and the resources adequate to meet the need on the part of him who shows it. God shows it. It meets our need. We need it. We receive it. What did he give us? Total forgiveness in Christ Jesus completely. And Luke 1 50, and his mercy is on them that fear him. And Proverbs 1 7 says, The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom from generation to generation. That's the reverence of the Lord, the respect of the Lord. And in Jude 1.21, keep yourself in the love of God. looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. Do you see how much mercy is in the Bible? God loves you. God loves you so much. You can't go through this day without thinking about that. He loves me. He's watching me. He cares for me. He gave his son for me. He extends mercy to my life, to my needs, to my health. His mercy is overwhelming. And then there's forgiveness. The third demonstration of God's love for you is his forgiveness. And that's an indication of just how faithful he really is. There are two forgivenesses now. I want you to remember this. The first one is related to time when we sin. 1 John 1, 9, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's the forgiveness that we're talking about. And then John 3, 36 is the forgiveness related to eternity. Both forgivenesses are based on the salvation work of Jesus Christ, our Lord, on the cross. So even though we believe in Christ and receive him as our Savior and are forgiven, then in 1 John 1, 9, we can still sin as Christians and we need to be forgiven daily for our daily sins. But one refers to your position, and one refers to your experience. So, remember, there is not forgiveness, and this is something a lot of people miss. There's not forgiveness at the cross. There's judgment at the cross. Judgment. Judgment and redemption. The forgiveness comes when you receive Christ. You weren't forgiven at the cross. The sins were judged at the cross. Galatians 3.13, Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us because it is written, cursed or judged is everyone who hangs on the cross. The forgiveness comes when you receive Christ as your Savior. It's technical, but you need to remember it. On the cross was judgment. The sins of the world were judged. And when you receive Christ, you're forgiven. So our Lord referenced forgiveness of sin as he stood in the synagogue on the seventh day back in Nazareth, his hometown, and read from the book of Isaiah. Listen to what he said. aphiasis is always used for divine forgiveness of sin. And when he uses this word aphiasis, we have to remember that, okay? Here we go. The verb aphiemi is the word forgiveness of sin and used in 1 John 1, 9, where God cancels the forgiveness of sin. So our Lord referenced that, talked about that, read from the book of Isaiah, and in the word katerizomai, the verb, Colossians 2, 13 through 14. Listen carefully. When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, he made you alive together with him. having forgiven you, having forgiven you all of our transgressions, canceling out the certificates of debt consisting of decrees they had against us which were hostile to us, he took it out of the way and he nailed it to the cross. All right? Now, listen to what Jesus said in the synagogue. I got them ahead of myself. I want you to hear this. This is in the synagogue when he referenced forgiveness of sins. In Luke 4, 18, the Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he's anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor. He sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance, aphiasis, which is forgiveness, letting them go as if they never even committed anything, remission of their penalty. to preach aphiasis to the captives and the recovering of sight to the blind and to set at liberty them that are bruised. Verse 19, Luke 4, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And then he closed the book of Isaiah, gave it again to the ministers that were at the synagogue and sat down. And the eyes of all of them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. This is where he proclaimed publicly to the religious leaders that he was claiming to be a royal figure with a prophetic mission. He quoted Isaiah as he read from it, the spirit of the Lord is on me. He has anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor. He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted and to preach forgiveness of sin to the captives and the recovering of sight to the blind. All right? So this is quite a shock. When they heard that, they kind of got blown out of the saddle thinking this guy's from Nazareth and he's saying that he's been sent by God. Paul made this forgiveness very, very clear in Colossians. In Colossians 1.13, he's rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of his son. He loves us in whom we have redemption and the forgiveness of our sins. Redemption and the forgiveness of our sins. Mercy has been shown to us because of God's grace and we have peace knowing our sins are forgiven. The Mount's Expository Dictionary says sin has destroyed the relationship between God and the human race, but the cross of Christ is the means that God used to remove the fissure. Bring us back into fellowship together. In Hebrews 9, 22, without the shedding of blood, there can be no forgiveness, referring to the cross. So this forgiveness that God offers you, a demonstration of his love for you, is a royal pardon from the Lord himself. In Isaiah 43, 25, I, even I, am the one who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and furthermore, I will not remember your sins. There it is. Forgiveness is a requirement for members of the royal family of God. We must forgive others. Colossians 3, 13, burying one another, forgiving each other. Whoever has a complaint against anyone else, just as the Lord forgave you, so also you should forgive them, and I mean never bring it up again. It's clear the mature believer has a tender heart and does not hold a grudge or seek revenge. Ephesians 4.32, be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other, just as God, for Christ's sake, gave you. So this means that if someone asks you for your forgiveness and in honor you forgive them, then integrity and loyalty to the word of God demands that you forget whatever was done against you and that you never again do you recall it or hold it against them or penalize them for what they did. That's your job. That's where you have to come in with forgiveness in your life. Even though we have forgiveness for pre-salvation sins because of faith alone in Christ alone, we still need forgiveness for post-salvation sins, and that's that 1 John 1 passage. The first forgiveness is our positional forgiveness, and the second is our experiential forgiveness. In our position, he has made us alive and forgiven us for all of our sins, nailing them to the cross, Colossians 2.13. And the second forgiveness is post-salvation. That cancels out the repercussions of our sin and restores us to fellowship in the spiritual life. I gave you a lot of information. Oh, a lot of information on grace, mercy, and forgiveness. This is all indicative of how much God loves you. Don't forget it. And you must reflect these same things in your life as you grow. and become a mature believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. I hope it's made sense. I hope you've learned something. Write to me if you have a question. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
On this episode of The Mike Gallagher Show, the discussion threads through the complexities of trust, political impatience, and fiscal strategies. Featuring a variety of perspectives, listeners are invited to explore Mike's unwavering faith in Trump amidst a sea of criticism over spending habits and planned 'Doge cuts.' As tensions rise, Gallagher shares his insights on Trump's strategy and the underestimated significance of process, all while fielding calls from supporters and critics alike, shining a spotlight on differing opinions shaping today's conservative dialogue.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network. Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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We're all so impatient, aren't we? And I'm as guilty as anybody. I'm a pretty impatient guy. People are getting frustrated over doge cuts. People are getting frantic about the big, beautiful bill. There's so much to try to digest these days. And I just want to urge you to stay the course. I get it. We're frustrated. Elon Musk is signaling his frustration over doge cuts. He gave an interview to CBS News. And I'm pretty sure it must be for this coming CBS Sunday morning, which continues to be one of my favorite shows. Sunday shows. I always liked that show. I know they're probably a little bit biased. It's CBS, after all. It's hosted by Jane Pauley. But I like their mix of stories about art and entertainment and a little bit of politics. And evidently, one of the CBS Sunday morning correspondents sat down with Elon Musk, and that's coming out this Sunday, the interview. But some clips of it have already been released. And Elon is sort of playfully conceding that the big, beautiful bill isn't going to be what he hoped it would be. Now, I've been listening to a lot of smart people say, you got to pass the bill first, and then there could be another process that codifies the doge cuts. You got people on social media who are screaming to the mountaintops, claiming that the doge cuts are never going to take place. And I don't believe that for a minute. I don't accept that with this president. Do you think Donald Trump's going to drop the ball? You think he's just going to move on and pretend that he doesn't want to slash all this waste and fraud and abuse? Give it time. We're in the first few months of the presidency. We're not even into June yet. We're not even six months into year one of Trump's second term. Everybody needs to calm down. And even Elon Musk in this interview doesn't appear to be, like, angry. He seems to be a little bit perplexed, but nonetheless somewhat jovial in telling the correspondent, well, it may be called a big, beautiful bill, but I don't think it can be both.
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You know, I was, like, disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly. which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it, and it reminds the work that the Doge team is doing.
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I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along. I mean, like, everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year.
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I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful.
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So that got clipped at the end. I think there's a punchline, Christian. I think he said it can be big, it can be beautiful. But it can't be both. Because it can't. It can't be both, according to Elon Musk. And all I'm saying is, everybody needs to just take a breath. And, you know, when I say trust Trump, I know it sounds sycophantic. I get that. If you don't like me or agree with me or if you don't like my beliefs... You hear me say, trust Trump, and you think, well, there he goes again. He's just blindly... I saw a vicious email the other night from somebody in, I think, Oregon. A shocker. Just railing on me because I said, trust Trump. Bootlicker and blank, blank, blank. You're in a cult. You're in a... And look, if you want to accuse me of that, I get it. I'm not going to push back. I mean, I'm not. But I do trust the guy. That's why I voted for him three times. I believe in him. In fact, I believe the majority of Americans believe in him. I mean, here's a text I walk into the studio today on the MyPillow text line. Do you want to know why I trust Trump like you do, Mike? Because if we can't trust Trump to fix things now, then we cannot trust anyone. We need to give him a chance. Our country's in trouble. And I completely agree with that sentiment. Our country's in trouble. Do you trust the guy or don't you? I've been asking if you've noticed a number of critical callers that question this week. And if you'll notice, the ones who are critical of him are wavering in their trust of Donald J. Trump. And I believe you've got to trust him. I believe we have to believe in him. I believe that he is the master negotiator who's going to get most of what we want i don't think we're going to get everything we want but we're going to get a lot of it we may not get all of it but i'll bet we get most of it we're going to get doge cuts we're going to see fiscal sanity we're going to see tax cuts We're going to see lower historic unemployment. We're going to see a surging, roaring stock market. We've got to give it time. Try to avoid the noise. Does that make sense? Avoid the noise. But I want to turn it over to you, 800-655-MIKE. Welcome aboard. It's Wednesday, May the 28th, here in the Relief Factor studios. Great to be back in the saddle with you again for another day of adventure and analysis and opinion and passion. Got great things happening with our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign. There are some predicting we might hit our goal this week. I don't know. That's pretty lofty. But we'll wait and see. We'll give that time. I trust you. Like I trust the process. Like I trust Trump. I'm very cynical. I should qualify that. I'm very cynical of the process. I am not naive about the swamp. Pretty powerful. You got to trust Trump. Do you trust him? Do you want to give him a chance? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. Your call, your text, your voice coming up here on this Wednesday episode. PhD weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know big pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind, you don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me, I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Mike Gallagher.
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See, a pattern here is a pattern on the MyPillow text line. The pattern is we trust Trump, we don't trust Congress. And I'm with you. I agree with that. Here's Illinois. Our new motto, In Trump We Trust. South Carolina, Trump is 100% for America. I trust him 200%. He's a true patriot. Our last hope to make America great again. Arkansas, how can you not trust him? He's the most transparent president we've ever had. He's doing this because he loves America. He's losing his own money. He almost died, but he still fights for us and for America. How could I not trust him? But again, a lot of you are saying you trust Trump, you don't trust Congress. I get that. You're going to trust Tom Tillis? You're going to trust Mitch McConnell? You're going to trust some of these guys that you know are absolutely hell-bent on stabbing Trump in the back? We've just got to try to ignore the noise. There's a lot of noise right now. The Democrats are squealing like stuck pigs. They don't know what to do. They're screaming about him wearing a red MAGA hat at West Point. They're shrieking about his pardoning of the Chrisleys. They wanted to look the other way when Joe pardoned his own crooked son. But the reality TV stars, oh, no, he's a dictator. He's an emperor. Let him freak out. And they are melting down. Man, oh, man. It is something to watch Democrats completely, completely derail. I saw a leftist activist. This is a TikTok influencer. who very smugly tells all of us Trump supporters we're not allowed to celebrate the 4th of July.
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We boycott all of their shows. We boycott the charade. We don't gather in parks to celebrate an illusion. We won't pretend that explosions overhead make us independent while our rights, our voices, and our futures are being sold off behind our backs. Instead, We reclaim the day with solidarity and silence. Gather with your friends. Gather with your families. Support your local independently owned businesses. Turn this day into a true declaration, not of fake independence, but of real grounded community. I like what he said.
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I'm excited about the silence part because they're going to be silent on the 4th of July. And I love that. I encourage every Democrat, every leftist, every member of Antifa, every BLM demonstrator, all the Jew haters, all the anti-Semites, just be quiet, okay? I like that. I think that's, I like his advice. Please practice what you preach. Celebrate 4th of July in solidarity and silence. Silence. I love that. Harry's in Atlanta, Georgia. Harry, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. 23 past the hour. How you doing, Harry? You got it, Mike. Hi. Yep. Good morning.
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You got it. I don't worry about Trump. He's great. It's just Congress keeps letting me down over and over and over.
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That's who I worry about. I know. And we need to worry about it. But you know what? This guy's calling the shots. And if anybody can herd these shrieking cats, it's him. I agree.
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He's the man.
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All right. Thank you, Harry. I appreciate it. One open line. Is that a turn signal going on there? Click, knock, click, knock, click, knock. I've got to get my little sound effect out here. I can't forget my... I haven't used this in a while. This is a gift from Tom Tradup, the sound machine. Next time a Democrat calls, I'll just do... Just play that for the Democrat. I think we got one on line one, don't we, Sean, in Chicago? Sean is a committed, loyal opposition to Donald Trump. Hey, Sean, how are you?
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Yeah, if you weren't in a cult, would you ever trust someone who set up a fake university to rip people off?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's a good point, Sean. That's a good point.
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That little musical thing doesn't eliminate it, does it?
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No, it really does not. What about the Trump stakes? What about the stakes? What about those stakes? Remember the Trump stakes?
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Just another failure, just like Trump, airline Trump, USFL team. He bankrupted casinos.
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That's a special talent. That's true. That's a good point, Sean. He's bankrupt casinos.
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He only cheated on two of his wives. That's true.
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Hey, Sean, let me ask you just a simple question as a response to all of your talking points.
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Oh, and I forgot he dodged the draft as well.
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Hey, Sean, who's in the Oval Office?
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Unfortunately, that piece of garbage, Trump.
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Hey, how much does it cost? 800-655-MIKE. Derek's in Columbus, Ohio. Unfortunately, that piece of garbage. Hey, Derek, how are you?
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Well, I'm hoping we're cleaning up the roads here in this garbage.
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Slowly but surely. We're picking up the trash.
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Mike, I just wanted to ask you, if Canada becomes the 51st state, do we have to take on their debt?
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I think we do. I think we also have to take on the Canadian Mounted Police. One of the Mounties are going to be able to help out with patrolling the streets if they're the 51st state. That's another one that – and this is the superpower. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday who was in so much agreement about all the clowns who follow the laser pointer that you put up for the cats. Trump is the master at setting them up. And you talk about the phrase troll. They fall for it every time. They fall for Canada as the 51st state. They fall for all the stuff he does that makes them become unhinged. And then he kind of laughs at them and he smirks and he moves on. And they go for it every time, over and over again. Paul's in West Virginia. Hey, Paul, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Hello.
SPEAKER 09 :
Doing great. Happy belated birthday.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you, Paul. I appreciate it. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm doing fine. I'm about a year ahead of you.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right.
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And I was thinking it's kind of... Kind of strange being the same age as old people, but here we are.
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You know, the sound machine with Sean, the angry Chicago Democrat, was really effective because we have to remember that they're frustrated and they're upset. And ultimately, we're winning. And they can't really stop that. They wish they could. It's almost like when a team wins a sporting event. A football team wins the game, and you've lost. You're an Eagles fan, and the Cowboys won. Cowboys win the Super Bowl, and the Eagles are saying, you shouldn't have won the Super Bowl. That's not fair. It's not right. This is terrible. Oh, no, my team lost. You've got to let them have that. You know, let Sean ramble about Trump University and babble about bone spurs and everything else. We get it. They don't like the guy. So what? The little noisemaker thing that I've got here, the little sound effect box... I started it as a goof, but as I did it, it's like it completely disarms their arguments. I mean, they've got nothing. And that's why I want people to be patient. and calm, and avoid the noise. The angry Democrats and the Trump haters love the noise. They love to see Rand Paul strut around and say, I'm never going to vote for it. Senator John Kennedy said that Rand Paul is not going to vote for anything ever. He's a little bit like Thomas Massey over in the Senate. Rand Paul and Thomas Massey like to say no a lot. They're rebels. They're disruptors. I look at these guys sometimes as the conscience of Congress, because their arguments often make sense, except when it comes to the inability to be unified the way the Democrats are. Democrats are always unified, but they're completely gutted right now. The Democrats are completely baffled. They're spending $20 million to try to win over young men. What are they calling it, Sam? Speak to American men? $20 million to try to win back young people that they've lost. Here's John Kennedy, by the way, talking about Rand Paul, who's a no right now on the big, beautiful bill. There's going to be a lot of work that's got to get done. They've got a lot to do between now and the 4th of July. Let it play out. Trust Trump. Trust this negotiator. He knows what he's doing. But... We have to understand that the Senate is made up of people like Rand Paul and the very colorful Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana.
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Some people have a greater appetite for reducing spending, I'm one of them, than others. But we'll get it done. If I were Senator Thune, though, I would give us a time limit. This bill's not like wine. It doesn't get better with age. We've got to wrap this up in about the next 60 days and probably the president will have to get involved. It won't be unanimous on our side. Senator Paul, who I respect, Rand's not going to vote for anything ever. I mean, he's just not.
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And so you just got to throw that one away. Some of these votes, I mean, Rand Paul's just going to say no and no and no. Doesn't care about unanimity. And You know, on the one hand, I get it. I appreciate the soul-searching that he makes us all do. Look, the bill spends too much. I get it. I totally get it. If the budget bill crashes, if it is sunk, we're really dead in the water. We'll lose the midterms, and we'll probably lose the presidency in 2028. This is the reality. It's almost like we've got to kind of take our medicine. And right now the medicine that none of us like is too much spending. It's frustrating. It's annoying. But let's be pragmatist for a minute here. It wasn't like we were wallowing in complaining about spending for the last 20 years. This didn't happen overnight. This has been a gradual, intensified process, and now you want Trump to fix this overnight? It's not going to happen. Meanwhile, Trump's approval ratings are maintaining a two-month high. This is what people, you know, like the angry Democrat from Chicago, never want to understand. Majority of Americans... a sizable percentage of Americans approve of the job he's doing. Rasmussen has Trump at a 50% to 51% approval rating for Memorial Day weekend. The Economist and YouGov published their determination of Trump's approval rating, and they're never very good to him in terms of the polling. from May 23rd to May 26th, 44% of a job approval rating. That reflects a two-month high for its polling. Now, 44% isn't great, but it ain't 27%. It's not 10%. And it is, again, a two-month high for the polling from The Economist and YouGov. All right, Paul, you're such a good sport, and I appreciate your patience so very much. I got distracted. I was babbling. I wanted to get you back on because you were talking about how this bill is not set up for Doge. That's going to be a separate step. So let's walk through that together. And, again, thanks for hanging in there with us, Paul.
SPEAKER 09 :
No problem. Yeah, well, Stephen Miller put out an update on this thing, and he spells it out really good. Have you read that yet? I have. It was a couple days ago.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, I read it on the air, in fact. Yeah, we read it on the air. I read a bunch of excerpts from it on the show. But go ahead and explain what he said, because you're right. This is a multi-step process, isn't it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, the thing is... Not too many people are parliamentarians and we all have short attention spans. And to go through all that stuff, everybody's eyes would roll back in their head. But this bill is about it's limited by the Senate to mandatory spending only. And all of those stuff is is discretionary. Correct. And the point for that is, is that. It only takes 50 votes to pass for that. It would take 60 votes, which is not going to happen, at least for another few years after we win a few more seats.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Then they can start making some really big moves with the economy.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
But for now, people just need to if you're not a parliamentarian and I don't know why it's not being explained this well. But maybe the timing's not right yet.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think I know why it's not being explained, Paul. I think people gravitate to the negativity. You know, it's easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots. And that's the easy part. You're right. Unless you're a parliamentarian, unless you are an expert in the process itself, you don't understand the process. We just want it done yesterday. And I'm guilty of this. I'm very impatient.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm not a patient person, you know, but I heard you. But it's coming through.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, but it's true. But but we've got to just take a breath here and trust again. Do you understand my point when I say we got to trust the man? We got to trust the president. We got to trust that he knows what he's doing and he knows how to do it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And they said it would take two years to secure the border. And look what happened there. Months.
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In a matter of months. And now the border is secure. Paul, good to talk to you. I appreciate it. Here's what President Trump said yesterday about the senators, the Rand Pauls and the Tom Tillises and the John Kennedys and, yes, the Mitch McConnells. We've got the U.S. Senate now that has to make the sausage and crank out The final big, beautiful bill that hopefully he will be able to sign. He doesn't sound worried at all.
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I want the Senate and the senators to change, you know, to make the changes they want. And we'll go back to the House and we'll see if we can get them. In some cases, those changes maybe are something I'd agree with, to be honest. You know, it happens. I think they're going to have changes. Some will be minor and some will be, you know, fairly significant.
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But, again, he doesn't sound worried. This is part of the process. And you've got to ignore the noise. Ignore the noise. The Shons of Chicago are making a lot of noise. The activists are angry. They're going to be quiet on Fourth of July. Oh, no, don't do that. Don't threaten me with a good time. You're going to have a day of silence on July the 4th. We don't want that. I'm telling you, this thing is going to – I'm going to start carrying this in my pocket. Okay. It carries a little red box and all these different noises and all these different sound effects. Oh, my. Oh, excuse me. Excuse you. The sound machine. I wonder if this is on Amazon. I can't really read the back of it. It's a little red box. If you're watching on Salem News Channel right now, I'm going to keep it in my pocket. And when the angry malcontents like poor Sean call... And he did not like that sound. He did not like the noisemaker. A lot of text messages pouring into the MyPillow text line, and we do appreciate your text conversations all the time. Brought to you by MyPillow. Georgia says, I appreciate Rand Paul's conviction. However, most of the Senate is still full of rhino deep state greedy Republicans who will be a no if they don't get their pork. Rand Paul has to know this. And then South Carolina writes, Rand reminds me of a particular talk show host. I turn over to you because I get kind of depressed by the talk show host. And I enjoy listening to this particular host. And I get it. Look, I don't say this to pick a fight with anybody, but it is so easy to sit here and bellyache and whine and moan and say, it's too much spending. Look, as Trump said, there's going to be changes made in the Senate. Let it run its course. That's all I'm saying. Let it run its course. I've been running my course with my new CPA that I'm so excited about because I get to tell you about Dean Owen. I can tell the world about this true leader in tax and financial strategy, a fellow by the name of Dean Owen. Dean is a combat veteran. He's a patriot. He's a God-fearing man. He's a good guy. And he's become my CPA, and already I can see ways that he's going to be saving me a ton of money. I wish I'd have met Dean years ago. Because Dean and his team, he's got a terrific team, specialize in helping you reduce your tax burden and build a financial and tax strategy that's aligned with your goals and your values. Dean's a trusted expert. And look, I can proudly tell you, my CPA can be your CPA. Take control of your financial future. Call Dean Owens' office at 270-554-0720. 270-554-0720. Or you can visit the website, owenscpa.com. owenscpa.com. O-W-E-N-C-P-A, owenscpa.com. Let someone who shares your faith, your values, help you secure the future you deserve. Be sure to tell them Mike Gallagher sent you. Again, Dean has been ranked among the nation's top CPA and financial advisors for the last three years in a row. No surprise to me, because I trust him, I believe in him, and you will too. Let my CPA be your CPA. Dean Owen, 270-554-0720, 270-554-0720, or visit owencpa.com. Mike Gallagher. I have Dr. Ashley Lucas, founder of PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition with me. Dr. Ashley, you've helped thousands of people lose weight and keep it off for life. In fact, you have an 80% success rate keeping the weight off your clients. What's the big secret here?
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I don't know what to make about the transformation of Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper is now pretty openly calling out left-leaning podcasters and media folks and the Democrat Party as basically a bunch of nuts, a bunch of screwballs. Now, I don't think Jake Tapper is suddenly becoming a rock-solid conservative. I don't think that by any stretch of the imagination, but something's happening. In fact, I've got a clip I'm going to play for you. Christian has to bleep it because he uses the F-word by basically saying this is why these F-ers are losing elections. That's what Jake Tapper is saying about the Democrat Party today. They don't know what to do. The Democrat Party's approval ratings are in the toilet. Nobody understands them. Nobody relates to them. They're lost. And you want to know what worries me? This is what keeps me up at night. I'm not worried about the big, beautiful bill. I've got confidence in Trump. I've got faith that even squishy Republicans realize that they're going to face the wrath of the American people if they don't get this bill passed. Because we'll lose everything. We'll lose the country. We certainly won't win the midterms next year, and we're not going to win the presidency in 2028 if Trump's bill crashes and burns. We cannot let that happen. They cannot let that happen. And when I read the body language and kind of read between the lines of people like John Kennedy and others in the Senate, it's going to get done. Now, just be prepared. You're not going to get everything you want, but we're going to get most of what we want. We're going to get a lot of what we want. Calm down, relax, don't lose sleep over. You know what we need to lose sleep over? The Democrats figuring out that they've gotten so far to the left that they have to pivot back to the middle. Because I don't want them to pivot anywhere. I want them to stay right where they are. Rahm Emanuel, big article in the Wall Street Journal. Rahm Emanuel, who is, of course, the former congressman, White House chief of staff under Barack Obama, Chicago mayor. He is allegedly considering a presidential bid. He's going to an Iowa fish fry, and he's going to start speaking widely. And he is going around saying that the Democrats... have become weak and woke, and it's wrong. And he's essentially saying that the Democrats have to pivot more to the center. They've got to become more moderate if they ever want to win another election. He's right. That's what keeps me up at night. If they can push back against the Zanies and the Loonies in their party, and kick them to the curb. Say goodbye to the Rashida Tlaibs and the Jasmine Crocketts and the AOCs. If they can say goodbye to the extremists and embrace a culture of moderation, of being more in the center, governing from the center, and incidentally, it'll all be a ruse because they are who they are. But if they figure that out, They're going to win. They're going to start winning again. That's why Trump has got to continue with the shock and awe of his presidency. I want you to hear this Jake Tapper. This is fascinating. I'm reading the Jake Tapper book. I didn't buy it. A friend of mine bought it. I promised I wouldn't spend a penny of it because it's so repulsive that a guy who was part of the actual cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline and his mental capacity is now profiting off a book that's all about it. But I will tell you, the book is fascinating. And it's tough. I mean, it is a brutal indictment of Biden and the people around him. And I'm about a third of the way in. But the book is truly intriguing. And I don't know what to make of Jake Tapper. You know, he used to be on ABC, and he was kind of a center-right guy. It feels like he sort of had to toe the party line when he went working for CNN. So, you know, he's going to, as somebody just texted me from Oregon, he basically sides with whoever pads his bank account. Well, now he's going to enrich his bank account pretty considerably with the proceeds from this big book. Now, here's what he said on a podcast yesterday. And you can hear the disdain in his voice when he shares with the person who was interviewing him. And I'm sorry, I don't know who it is. We always try to give proper attribution, but I don't know who this podcaster is. But the podcaster is interviewing Jake Tapper about his appearance on another podcast that was left-leaning. And you can hear... In his voice, you can see it on his face. He cannot hide his contempt for what these leftist podcasters did regarding his own 15-year-old son.
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I went on a left leaning podcast that shall remain nameless. And we were talking about my kids because I think they were both people without kids. And they asked me about my son. And I said, he was, you know, he's he's a football player and he wants to be a policeman. And their joke was about my 15 year old son. Oh, how does he feel about minorities? Like the idea that he wants to be a policeman. Therefore, he's he's racist. My son. And like, you know, that was the big laugh. And then I got dragged in the comments and all that stuff. And and I thought to myself, this is why you losing elections.
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Hundred percent.
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Like my football playing son. who has no political views. He's 15. He thinks about World War II and gaming and playing linebacker. That's his world. You're deciding he's a racist because he wants to be a cop. And why does he want to be a cop? He wants to be a cop because he wants to help people, you know, and he thinks that's the best way he can help people. And that's how the Democratic Party talks to men, not just white men, but men. And I mean, I get the idea that they thought Tim Walz was. Could what's the term he used code switch or something? He thought that he could he could translate the Democratic Party values because he hunts and fishes and owns a gun and was in the army and drinks a beer. I mean, at least there was an attempt. But I find it just insane.
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Well, we've been saying this for years. They're nuts. I say it. I've said it. How many times you hear me say they're nuts. They're crazy. Open borders. Kill the Jews? Attack Christians? Good on the list. They're nuts. But Jake Tapper, it appears, is now discovering what we've been saying all along. Now, you could get into his motivation. I don't know. I don't know what's in his head or in his heart. Somebody just texted me from... Hawaii, that he's calling out the left because he wants to sell his book. He knows the market is for conservatives. The libs don't want to face the truth, so they'll avoid buying his book. Maybe. I don't know. That seems like a lot of psychoanalysis for me. I don't know. But it's as if all of a sudden the curtain is being pulled back. on the lunatics on the left. And the lunacy is being rejected widely. You know, I saw a story in the Tampa Bay area where a pastor was caught up in the deportation of the Trump administration. And, of course, it's a very sympathetic piece. This is a pastor without a criminal record, but he's here illegally. And now that family has been completely shattered because he's being deported. And it occurred to me that even the media, in attempting to portray this guy as a victim, sort of leaves out the fact, I think I saw it on Axios, that he is an illegal immigrant. Axios even used a different term today. This is a new one. I forget what the... It wasn't even undocumented. There's a whole new phrase they're using. Unauthorized or something? I'll find it for you. I'll read it to you here in a minute. But it's something we have to come to terms with. Do Americans support this mass deportation or not? And if so, there's going to be people who... The media will scream, don't have a criminal record. But they've committed a crime in the first place to be here illegally. And that's the part they always leave out. They never want to address that. So anyway, we're going through a lot of changes in this country. We're going through a lot of sort of a lot of revelations. One of the most revealing things is just how kooky and out of touch the Democrat Party of 2025 really is. And even people apparently like Jake Tapper have noticed. 800-655-MIKE. I don't know, again, we don't know what's in his heart, we don't know what's in his head. But it appears, and he may just be a self-serving opportunist who wants to sell books. Or he could have been thrust into a leftist environment through his book tour and he realizes, oh my gosh, these people are bat crap crazy. My 15-year-old kid wants to be a cop, and they want to know if he's going to be a racist, which is insane. Again, you listen to my show. Pretty often, or with any regularity, you hear me say that they're nuts almost every day of the week. 800-655-MIKE. Your call, your voice, your perspective coming up here on a Wednesday. We're in the Relief Factor studios. I'm glad you're here. 800-655-6453. A lot of good things to share with you.
Join Angie Austin as she talks with comedian Jeff Allen about his personal journey from a turbulent lifestyle to becoming a renowned clean comedian and devoted Christian. Jeff opens up about the trials and triumphs he faced in his search for meaning, discussing the vital role faith played in redefining his path and giving him a new lease on life. Tune in for an engaging discussion that balances humor, honesty, and insight into a life reshaped by faith.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news, talking to Jeff Allen. And he is in the midst of his Are We There Yet comedy tour. And he was on our good friend Rachel Main's show recently. And that's how I became acquainted with him. Welcome, Jeff.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Rachel is like the, you know, like, you know, Disney and like birds landing on your shoulder and like birds singing and all the animals gathering on your lap. That's Rachel.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, OK.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a nice description.
SPEAKER 03 :
She seemed nice. Yeah, she and I have been friends for 20 some odd years. She was in TV news with me. She was my floor director when I anchored and did weather. And so we were prayer partners and, you know, hung out together before the show at, you know, 4 or 15 in the morning or whatever.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, cool. Wow, wow. Yeah, you need friends at 4 or 15 in the morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Boy, do you. And most of them don't want to speak to you then. You know, when you come in on a morning show, no one says good morning.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I married a morning person. I don't work until 7, 8 o'clock at night, so this will shock people, but I'm really not awake at 7.38 when I wake up. Oh, gosh. We have a nice ritual. She's been sitting at her computer for a couple hours. I walk over. I kiss her on the cheek. I say, good morning. And that's the only conversation we have for at least 30 minutes.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's it. Yes, that was the morning show to a T. That's funny. All right, so tell us about you, Jeff. I know you do clean comedy. And I interviewed another comedian years ago, Michael Jr., and he also does clean comedy. And I'm like, you know, it's more difficult to do clean comedy because you don't get the easy laugh of all the foul language. Oh, that was so funny. He said the F word that made me laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's more difficult, I think, to do clean comedy.
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Well, I don't know. I just know it works for me. It's funny because I came to my faith probably a couple years after I started trying to clean everything up. We got called to school. And our fourth grade son cussed at his teacher. And it's not a nice conversation to have as a parent. But driving home, my wife said, you know, that's a reflection on us. We need to clean up our stuff at home. I told the teacher, I'd love to look you in the eye. And with all seriousness, I have no idea where the child heard that kind of language. But we were pretty loose at home. And so I started cleaning it up. And I found it made me much better at what I do. I'm a storyteller. And when you're forced to use the dictionary and the thesaurus to paint the same picture, you're right. The cuss word is the shortcut to the laugh. But if you can learn to work around it and use the language, it actually creates, to me, it creates a persona or a personality or a. A better description. People have a much better description of my wife. That's why she doesn't like to be out in public, because she said I'll shatter their illusions of what you what you've said about me. So it made me much better at what I do. But it is a lot more challenging and fun to work that way, I think.
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All right, so let's talk a little bit about you and your background, getting into comedy and then the faith aspect.
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Yeah. Well, I got married at 30, I think I was. She was 25, so 30. And I got sober at 31. I realized I couldn't continue to stay married. And I married a woman who had a two-year-old. And then she got pregnant probably a month before the wedding, which is... added to the stress factor i always love when i would run into young couples and they go we're not doing too well maritally we think if we had a kid if we had a child maybe that'll bond us yeah let's let's raise the stress factor by about 400 percent and that'll make you guys so much closer yes yeah oh yeah i went from i went from single and traveling 50 weeks a year just doing night clubs uh 50 weeks a year to uh married and two kids under the age of three um in, uh, in a year. And, um, so anyway, about a year later, everything, you know, something had to give. And, uh, I decided to go into a 12 step program and get sober. And they told me to pray. And I said to what, I certainly didn't believe in God. And, um, anyway, they said, we'll find something. And that really is the crux of the half. First half of my book, um, was that seven or eight year search for meaning and a point, um, to life in general, you know. I started with self-help, and that left me kind of empty and pointless, and went to New Age, and I went to Buddhism, and I ended up on philosophy at one point. I think when I met the man that gave me the Bible, I was reading Ayn Rand. And I've always said if I wasn't a Bible-believing Christian, I'd probably be an Ayn Rand objectivist. At least she dealt with a worldview that you could at least reason your way through. But in the end, when you look at her writings, there weren't a lot of children in it. There weren't a lot of colors. It was just kind of black and white and grays, where Christianity offered me answers to everything, origin, meaning, morality, destiny. And it allowed me to experience joy on a deep level that I never knew I could. But anyway, that's a synopsis of about eight years of my life.
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You know, it's interesting because, you know, a lot of people come to Christianity, you know, through whatever their family or like a much shorter path. It's interesting to me when someone does that much in-depth research. It reminds me of the author, The Case for Christ. Oh, yeah.
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really struggle.
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Yes. Yes. Like, you know, that like, I'm going to prove this wrong and do all this research, but then I actually prove it right and become a believer. And you kind of were finding like, okay, I really need this. I'm going to quit drinking. I need to get my life on the right track. So I'm going to do a lot of research to find like what might work for me. And then through all of that research, stumble across Christianity and like, Oh, well maybe this is it. But I admire like the journey. I remember my father saying to me once, because I, He knew I was a Christian and we'd been estranged for like 35 years. I grew up in a family that was, he was an alcoholic and he was, you know, abused my mom. My brothers were on drugs. One of them was murdered. The other one's homeless. Now he's in some psychiatric facility. But I had a brother that graduated near the top of his class at West Point Military Academy who wasn't drinking and wasn't using drugs. And I'm like, oh, wait, you know, that actually, that looks like a better path for me. Like, okay.
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There might be a direct correlation, you know.
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Yeah.
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It's over 36 years.
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Yes, yes, that could work.
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I haven't been arrested 36 years.
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Yeah, that's awesome. Yes. And so, yeah, so I thought, oh, well, that might work for me. And then I was in foster care and, you know, and stayed on friends' couches and relatives. I think I went into foster care at like, or with an aunt, maybe at 12, and then foster care at 15. And so I got, they took me to church. And so, you know, that's kind of how I came across it. And it was so beautiful for me. No research, just like this gift that fell on my lap. So when I said to my father, this 35 years of a strange, but he was, he had his PhD. He was a professor, a very bright man, just had, you know, you know what alcohol does to people. And so he wasn't drinking then. And we actually had a great relationship the last 10 years of his life. But he said to me, Why are you so stuck on this Christianity? Like, why don't you do some research? Why don't you read some books about, you know, faith and, you know, read this book and that book and this book and that book and blah, blah, blah. And I said, can you just let me have this because it gives me peace. And I remember I was like crying in the back of the truck as he was driving me to the airport after we'd had this 35. At that point, it had been like a 20-year arrangement, and I was efforting some kind of relationship with him. And so anyway, I just remember saying, can't you let me have this? Because it worked for me, and I was not about to give it up because some PhD was telling me to research it and do more books. So I lucked out and got to skip that. But you really put the work in.
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Yeah, I just eliminated it. It's almost as if God said, you know, in hindsight, I'm looking back, you know, I used to say to churches when I worked there that if God had sat me down and said, this is what I'm going to put you and your wife through for the next seven or eight years. But at the end of all of that, you're going to know Jesus and you're going to know a peace and a love for each other that you never knew could exist. I don't think I would have signed on. So this is why God doesn't tell us his plans, you know. There's Paul, he has a road to Damascus moment where Jesus just strikes him and says, why are you persecuting me? And then there's mine, and it was like God said, okay, I'll let you have this. Go to self-help and see what that leaves you with. Go to Buddhism, New Age, see what the world has to offer. And I say this all the time. I said, if you walk into any bookstore in America, the shelves are filled with with man's attempt to find meaning apart from Christ. We are a chatty little species. And then the Bible just sits in that, then that bookstore covered in dust. Nobody wants to open it up because they've been told and hammered home that it's just an archaic book full of little stories that mean nothing. But, um, it, you know, the guy that discipled me, we were on a golf course and, um, I was reading Ayn Rand, and I was trying to figure out how to accumulate wealth. We were filing bankruptcy, and we were losing everything. And I just didn't really care. I always tell people, if your marriage is full of acrimony, wait until you get to apathy. I mean, there's nothing more painful than just not caring. And we were sitting on the golf course, and he says, you don't want a lot of money. And I go, I don't? He goes, no, you can't handle what little you have. A lot would be a burden. And I couldn't get my head around that because everybody wants a lot of money. So anyway, he started telling me in order to really enjoy the creation, you have to have a relationship with the one who created it. And it all makes sense when you realize that it's all temporal and it's not yours to begin with. And you learn to give it away. And that's when more accumulates. The more you give, the more you accumulate. And I couldn't understand that. And I said, where do you read all that at? And he goes, well, it's biblical. And I go, you know, the Bible. Who actually reads the Bible? And he says, you don't? And I go, no. He goes, why not? I go, well, it's a little archaic. You know, God, God's word. I don't really believe in God. I'm really an atheist. And he said, well, if you haven't read the Bible, you're not really an atheist. You're a moron. And that was the beginning of a lifelong friendship. He called me a moron. And I said, well, what do you mean by that? He goes, it's the most influential book in the history of the world, and you can't even crack it open and study it. That's moronic. That's lazy. That's intellectually lazy. And to rely on other people's interpretation of the Bible is also intellectually lazy. God will speak to you through that book. You just have to give him a chance. And he signed me up for Bible Tapes. And that was the beginning of our friendship. And he loved me into the kingdom a year and a half. I didn't open up a Bible tape for a year and a half. And we had this friendship that was budding. And all he said to me at the end of every conversation we had, he goes, we pray for you and Tammy. We pray for your marriage. I go, why? He goes, well, we just think that all marriages are ordained from God and you were put together for a reason. And you may not know it, but God put you there for a reason. So is it all right if we pray for you? And I go, I don't care. You know, nothing to me. And anyway, you know, eventually I opened up a tape and my first tape was Ecclesiastes. Meaningless, meaningless. All in life is meaningless. And that summed up my eight year search. She was right. Well, whoever wrote that in the Bible was right. And I felt if there was that deep of a truth in the Bible, then there must be other truths in that book. And I just dove into that book, and it ultimately led me to Jesus, the woman on the well, the prostitute at the well. When I heard the verse, if you drink from what I offer, you'll never thirst again, I realized what I was saying.
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dying from was a spiritual thirst that can only be quenched by the author of life yeah not not the not the bottle per se wait do you intellectual or the intellectual yes yes the mind do you have time to um to continue our interview we've got to take a break do you have time to stick with us okay i just want to mention too i remember bono talking about this bible that he could understand and it was easy to read and it was written by eugene peterson are you familiar with this
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Oh, the message, right?
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Yes, yes. I got it from my brother, who's, you know, in the psych ward or whatever. But he's pretty smart. So actually, he's fine with the regular Bible. But I thought it might, you know, be like a good, you know, like a sampler for him. All right, you're listening to The Good News. And we're talking to Jeff Allen, comedian and author. We will be right back.
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Yeah, the publishers always ask, you know, who you're writing the book for. And I was 66, I'm 68 now, so it was two years ago, I think I started it. uh, in earnest. And, um, I said, I'm writing it for millennials. My sons are millennials. And, um, I was 31 to 38, 39, maybe when I gave my life to Christ. So that's seven or eight years, um, of just, uh, confusion and, um, emptiness and apathy really. Um, I see that a lot in today's millennial. I wrote it for the guy that's in the living room on the couch at 10 o'clock at night. His family's in the other room. He's got all the boxes checked. I checked the boxes. I had a beautiful wife who loved me. I had children who were healthy and they loved me. I had a job I loved. I loved doing comedy. And still, you know, after checking the boxes, I didn't understand why it mattered. What difference does it make, you know? And those are the arguments and the discussions that my wife and I had. She would shake me, you know, we're losing everything and you don't care. I go, I don't. She goes, you know, who says that? I go, someone who doesn't care. I mean, I want to care. I mean, I feel the weight of it. Believe me, I felt the weight of it. But I just couldn't muster up the energy to make the effort to produce anything because I didn't realize what differences it makes. We have a 10,000 square foot house. We have a 1,000 square foot house. We have a nice car. We have a car. I just didn't understand the material side of life and why it mattered. And anyway, I see that today and I hope. that the 40-year-old picks up this book, and he's on his couch in the living room, and he's just surfing channels at night while his family sleeps. The devil wants you to live it. He'll remind you of your past, and if that doesn't work to kill your life, he'll have you project into the future, 5, 10, 15 years, and say, this is it. This is your life for the next 15 years. What do you think of that? And God wants you in the moment. He wants you right there in the moment. And he can speak to you in the moment. And from that will come that peace and understanding that, look, I may not understand where I'm headed, but I'm going to do what I can to do his will. And there is something to giving. You know, it's interesting. Ayn Rand made the argument that altruism is a selfish act. You do it because it makes you feel good. Well, I believe we're wired to be altruistic, you know, that God made us this way. You're going to serve something. You will serve something and you will worship something. We were wired to worship and we were wired to serve by the God, God, the creator. So ask yourself what you're worshiping and what you're serving. And maybe it's a false God and maybe it's you're serving yourself. You know, it's been said there's no smaller package than a man wrapped up in himself. So. And, uh, those years, uh, I was wrapped up in myself and I will tell, I will tell your listeners this, if you can get through the first six chapters of the book without killing yourself, it's an uplifting tale. It really is. The last half of the book is, uh, what we've been through for the last 20 years by, by every metric the government keeps, we should have been divorced six times for whatever reason, for whatever reason, God kept us together to, uh, And it was probably the prayers of my friends and then the prayers of all these people that I've worked for over the years. And it's a wonderful life. It really is. But there's five questions I pose in the book that I ask and answer two or three times a year as a kind of an inventory. What do I value most? What defines me is the first one. And most men will give you a vocation.
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Yes.
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And vocations are transitory. So if you're connecting your worth and self-worth and your value to your vocation, that could change. It could be in flux on any day. So then what do you do? My hope lies... I value... I define myself as a child of God. I'm His child. and his alone. And then after that, everything works out. It's like, you know, it's like in Ephesians, you know, everybody quotes the verse, wife, submit to your husband, but they never, they ignore the prelude to that, which is where I'm supposed to submit my life to Christ. When I can submit my life to Christ, then everything else, I will serve as Christ served. So I am to serve my wife as Christ served me. And then this, it's just this cascading of blessings that comes from the beginning, the, the, Beginning your day with prayer and saying I'm yours, just guide me and give me the hope that lies within you and then everything else falls. So what defines me and then what do I value? I used to value material and I realized how empty that left me. Materials come and go, but if what defines you is integrity, how you integrate what you believe with how you live, you will live a much more peaceful life and you'll find yourself a little more in line with the commandments of which I break probably daily. And then the centerpiece is what are my expectations? And I tell Tammy all the time, if you would lower your expectations of me, I would meet them and you'd be a much happier woman.
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Oh my gosh, hilarious.
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Yeah, so I'm a product of a woman who actually expected more from me than I expected from myself. She held me to a higher standard. And I tell young men all the time, if you don't have a woman in your life, if you don't have, we are meant to have women. God gave us a partner in Genesis for a reason. That woman will put a bit in your mouth and she will put her boot on your back and she will move you to be a better man in so many ways. So expectations and then what voices do I listen to? That's a big one in this culture to me. I got to really kind of look at what garbage in, garbage out. What am I listening to? on a daily basis. And it used to be a lot of talk radio. And I found myself being just really stirred up and miserable. And then I started listening to sermons and pastors. And I just signed up for a college class at the end of August. Tammy goes, why? I go, I just want to learn. You know, I'm not doing it for a degree or anything. I'm just doing it for learning sake. And then the last one. I don't know yet. It's Jordan Peterson's university and he has lecturers and I don't quite know what it's going to look like. I just. I just trust Jordan Peterson to give me people who are smart and honest brokers.
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Before we get to number five, what voices do I listen to? I used to go to sleep listening to podcasts like Dateline and 2020, and then my kids leave. My kids, I have three teenagers, and my husband, they leave for school and work, and they kept leaving the garage door open, and I kept texting them like, Do you want to find your mother chopped up in the trunk when you get home? And, you know, do you know what happens to people who leave their garage door and their doors unlocked? You know, so I thought, oh, my gosh, like I was in the TV news business in Los Angeles and all over Southern California and Denver. all i all i covered was bad news right because you don't go to someone's door and go hey i'm here it's the best day of your life no i'm knocking because something horrible happened in your family or there was a drive-by shooting or whatever and so um so i i thought oh gosh i gotta stop listening to this dateline when i go to sleep so i started listening so i love um charles stanley um The late, great Charles Stanley. And so I listened to him. And then also I started listening to American history storytellers, which I find to be fascinating. So it's more like you're in history, like you're there and that they're telling the story. And imagine you are standing on the street, you know, when Paul Revere, you know, you know, rides by or whatever.
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That's so cool.
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Yeah. And so I've learned so much about history and, you know, wars that I forgot about and, you know, things that, you know, women's suffrage, like all they went through to finally get the vote. I mean, that's mind blowing. And, you know, the Underground Railroad. So I thought, oh, great. This is a lot different. better to put in my brain than yet another, you know, person being murdered and, you know, trying to find the bad guy, you know, stories. But I agree as a Christian, like listening to Charles Stanley, I mean, that's super uplifting. When I lived in LA, I used to do God walks and I would listen to Charles Stanley while I walked on the beach. And that was like every, every day, you know, I would do that. So I like that whole, what voices do I listen to? Because my son listens to rap. And I'm just going to be blunt here. I said, look, when you have your sisters in the car, you cannot listen to penis music. Like all this yucky, you know, saying dirty things and, you know, disgusting. Like you can't have 15-year-old girls in the back seat with that music on. It is so embarrassing to your sisters. And it's so wrong when you're taking them to Young Life.
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Yeah, well, let me tell you what I told my son. I heard him listening to rap. And I walked in his room. And I said, I am not going to be monitoring whatever you listen to. I just don't have the time or the energy. I have the desire, but I realize I don't have the time or the energy. So let me explain to you what art is. All art is a statement. And it comes from the soul. So... this music you're listening to is art produced by people who have failed oppressed or pushed down or have the boot of the state on their neck. And they are hitting back at what they believe are the oppressors and they are hitting hard. So I have to ask you as, as your father and you are a white suburban kid, um, raised under my roof, what part of your soul is being fed with all of this anger, and vitriol because I understand where it's coming from. I just don't understand what part of your soul it's feeding. All art should feed some part of your soul because then it's edifying and then it will produce a better person than you. So if you can just think about that, I would, I would like to know, I don't need an answer now, but just give me an answer in a couple of days. Think about it. Like two days later, I went by, he was listening to journey.
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Oh my gosh. That is hilarious. The small town girl.
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Yeah. And I just said to him, and it was funny when he was, he had Earl Smith on at one point, I came to dream on and I was singing along. He goes, you know, these guys, I go, have you seen Steven Tyler? He's 109 years old. Are you kidding me? I was in the backseat of a car with a date when this song was played.
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Oh my gosh. It's so funny. Okay. So that's number two. You've got what defines me. Um, and you've got, what do I value? Uh, what are my expectations? What voices do I listen to? And then what's, what's five? Yeah.
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Five is where does your hope lie? And if it lies in the next election, I pity you. I really do. And it doesn't mean you're not aware. It doesn't mean that you don't do your homework and you don't pay attention. But for some reason or another, if it's life and death and you wind up in a psych ward because your guy or gal didn't get elected, then I pity you. My hope lies in the fact that the words in the Bible are true and there is an ultimate author of life and there is some kind of control over this thing. And I will, you know, again, I will do my homework. I will do what I can. But in the end, it's not a person. It is a person. It's the person of Jesus Christ is where my hope lies. And so anyway, that's the five. And I got to go through because I get out of balance. I get out of whack.
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Don't y'all.
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In some area, I'll look at. And, you know, it's funny you brought up Dateline. I do a joke in my show. I talk about, we binged Dateline during COVID because I didn't have anything else to watch. And I said, you know, they talk, pastors are always talking about the divorce rate. You know, they should mention the murder rate every now and then. So not a lot of couples getting out with their wives. And I tell men, I go, men, watch five Datelines with your wife. You'll look her dead in the eye. Are we doing all right, you and me?
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You know?
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I love it.
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Yeah, nobody ever sees it coming. Oh, they love each other. Now, wait a minute. They found her in the forest in 11 different shoeboxes. Maybe they had a couple of unresolved conflicts they didn't share with you.
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Oh, I know. And it's always the husband that's terrifying. All right, the book is Are We There Yet? Comedian Jeff Allen. And you can find him on Instagram and Facebook. I just did. And I appreciate you, Jeff. It was fun. Thank you, man.
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Have a great day.
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It's a little frustrating. You know, Elon Musk went into this Doge effort. He was getting lampooned. I mean, like, they're firebombing his Tesla dealerships. Media is smearing him relentlessly. His businesses suffered, all this stuff, because he basically said, look, we can't keep doing this, and we need to moderate and reduce the amount of money that the federal government is spending. And yet... We have a Republican Congress, and to this day, we're in the end of May, past Memorial Day, and not one cent in Doge cuts have been implemented by the Congress. That's one of the reasons why we need a balanced budget amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
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What's that? What's a balanced... What's a budget? I feel like that's... That's like some members of Congress are... That's where they're at. What's that? I don't even know. Is that something we're supposed to do, like, and stuff? Yeah, you guys are supposed to do that. That's like a thing. I mean, that's been your whole job, this... Whole time. So first, first off, let me just greetings and salutations. Let me get you set up here because we're diving into all of this. That was Florida Governor Ron DeSantis yesterday. And you know what? He's right. He's right. And the. I think the criticism is not being received well by some of these Republicans because they... Well, you've seen what happens when you try to cut spending. You're called a rhino. You're called all this stuff. And it's not fair. It's not fair for a number of reasons because you have to have accountability. You have to. You have to have accountability. And we're not... getting that and furthermore i feel like some of these bad actors are getting a pass so one of the things that we're going to do today is we're going to talk about well honestly it's um one of the things that the white house is having to well white house people are having to address the structure of this whole thing rescissions reconciliation mandatory spending discretionary spending all of this stuff let me let me give you one example And all of this relates to this bill. And the reason we're all talking about it is because it's in the Senate. As I was telling you, it's going in the Senate. They're going through to make sure that it all is in line with the Byrd rule, which deals with the mandatory spending. You can't cut mandatory spending. So they're trying to end reconciliation. So that's what they're trying to determine. Let me just give you one example. And I did a big, deep dive on this yesterday. And I almost, I literally almost had this as a draft that went out on Substack. And then I thought everybody's going to hate me on this newsletter because it was too long for the email. And it was just my notes for this issue. And it was too long for the email. And I'm like, I literally have an entire post about Planned Parenthood's budgetary structure in reconciliation and why they didn't and they lied to you uh not they some of the rhino republicans like some of their there were three of them that were fighting for uh planned parenthood cuts to remain in the bill and they were trying to argue that it was mandatory spending and then they were trying to trick you with you know medicaid title and all of this stuff when in fact it's actually discretionary uh and it wasn't wrapped up in a mandatory apparatus and so it absolutely could be cut but they thought you're too stupid to notice that The handful of rhinos. That's just like one example. There's a ton of things that are in here that you absolutely could. But here's the thing that I feel like a lot of these apologists are obfuscating. So the issue isn't just this budget bill. We wanted what could be cut out of this budget bill to be cut, to be removed. Sorry, excuse me, but the Green News scam is. That's I mean, there's so many things that are wrapped up in that that are entirely discretionary. That's a lie that they're trying to tell you that, oh, no, this is mandatory spending. We can't cut that. Well, that's not true. I mean, it's just on its face. It's not true. Look at the way that in which it was included previously to get. And a lot of it was was previous Biden. Oh, is it only got a temporary pass congressionally? So that's a lie. That's like one example. But you're busy in your day. You have bills to pay. You have a job to do. You've got kids to raise. Hell, it's summer. Your house is full. I get it. Believe me. Even though this is my job, I still struggle for that balance and to compartmentalize and to try to stay up with everything. The reason everyone struggles to stay up with all this stuff is because there's too much damn stuff. It is insane that you can't know what's in your budget. You know what's in the budget in your house. Why the hell do you not know it for government? There's no excuse. Oh, well, it's so big and they fund so many things. That's pig feces. No. You should know because it affects your livelihood. The problem is that government is so big and so unwieldy that it's difficult to know and it's difficult to keep up. So these people are playing on this. To try to get you to go along with stuff. That's the bottom line of it. And they're mad when you call them out on it. Oh my gosh. I kicked a hornet's nest this morning. And I will take a blowtorch to it. I don't care. I've dealt with these rat bastards before. During the tea party days. I'm totally fine with doing it again. They're all mad. They're like, I hear the same stuff over and over again. People that have barely a grasp of how this stuff works, trying to lecture everyone else who just merely wants accountability. And then they try to act like because you're too busy doing all the things that I mentioned in your day, you just can't keep up with this stuff. So you're just some stupid unwashed mass member. And therefore, your opinion is invalid. You don't know anything about this. They don't actually know anything about this. These people have been excusing this stuff for eons. This is literally why the Tea Party got started. I mean, it's absolutely why. Absolutely why. So I'm going to dive into some of this stuff today. And one of the reasons, too, is because these Republicans are making the media narrative come true. What's the media narrative that we've talked about many times before? The split, not just between Trump and Musk, but the administration and Musk. go further this split between republicans and musk not go further the split between the right and musk the left hasn't given up the idea of winning elon musk back they haven't so they are laying the groundwork for this and these stupid republicans running around like chickens with their heads cut off in dc are making this happen i wanted to play for this this for you and i'll probably play it again later on in the program Audio soundbite one. This is Musk doing an interview, a Sunday morning interview, where he was talking about these doge cuts and what this all actually means. Listen.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, you know, I was like disappointed to see the massive spending vote, frankly. which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it. And it reminds the work that the Doge team is doing.
SPEAKER 03 :
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along, I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think, I think a bill can be, can be, can be big or it can be beautiful, but I don't know if it could be both my personal opinion.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. Well, I feel bad for him because he went in with the best of intentions and he took a lot of hell for it. And I also think that he's still, he's seen some of the gridlock and why we have gridlock. I think he's also seen that. And it is it's I can only imagine how frustrated he is. Now, keep in mind, he was always going to leave in May. But now he's not happy with the way that this whole process has gone. And it's and as I said, not to get away from my other point, it's not just this reconciliation bill we're talking about. We're also talking about any other attempts to codify, meaning the executive orders that Trump signed for members of Congress to make it permanent through legislation. A lot of these executive orders Some of them actually don't even last the four years that Trump's in the White House, depending upon what it involves spending, etc. Some of them have like a timeline of 90 days. Some of them have a timeline of, you know, maybe 190. I mean, it all depends on. what it is and what it deals with. And so there is a sunset on some of this stuff. I mean, to say nothing of the sunset on all of it in 2028. And there is not a single bill that has yet left committee that's made it to the House floor that deals with any of this. In fact, I don't even... think that anything has really gotten going in these committees, like some of these other committees that they have. And I've talked to a lot of lawmakers. I'm like, where are you with this? Where are you with this? Where are you with this? And the problem is, is that all of these people, they've got some kind of special interests tied into something or other, like, for instance, with some of the military cuts. So my understanding is some Republicans and some of these committees are even dragging their feet on that because they were able to get these big legacy contracts for their districts. and get some of this other stuff. And they don't want to see that cut because they don't want to have to answer if it affects jobs in their areas, et cetera. It is a big ordeal. And a lot of them don't have the balls for it. I mean, figuratively and like actually, they don't. They don't have the spines. They really don't. And the energy is always great going into an election. And then that energy dissipates the moment the hard work has to begin. Right. And that's kind of where we're where we're at right now. It's where it's what Musk is seeing. And Musk is very vocal. And he's obviously not happy with, you know, some of this other some of the stuff that's happening. And so he's being vocal about it. And now it there definitely looks like there's a divide. And it looks like there's a divide because you have weak Republicans that have allowed it to happen. It's not just the reconciliation. It's everything else. And what they're trying to do is dodge on that and say, well, you don't understand how reconciliation works. Listen, slicks, we ain't just talking about reconciliation. We ain't just talking about a rescissions package. We're talking about everything that has so far been proposed in an executive order that has not been touched legislatively. And if you think that these people are going to do it, these lawmakers in D.C., if you think that they're going to have a little bit more motivation to do it, the closer that we get to midterms, I got a bridge to sell you. It's only going to get worse, folks. It's only going to get worse. But they figured something out. They got a new tactic. Their tactic now is to attack anyone that's trying to force accountability on them as a squish. Now, you remember back during the Tea Party days, right? I mean, there were squishes. And we were right. Now they're trying to reverse the argument. It's stunning. So we're going to get into this. I'll tell you where some of these senators stand all the way. We'll talk about rescissions versus reconciliation, mandatory versus discretionary spending, and some of these other things that Musk found. Did you know, for instance, that Doge found 14 computers that literally printed money out of thin air?
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How...
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SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
Sounds about right. Zosulabalapine works differently than all existing drugs, and it may lay the foundation for development of new treatments. What does it do? I don't know. It deals with superbugs, and it's really science-y.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
No, I mean, it's all like science and it gets, I'm like reading it going, I don't know what this means. I can diagram the sentence, but I can't. So that's nice. I mean, because it's been a bit, it's been a moment, right? It's been a moment. See, Juan's showing you on the simulcast. It's totally, I mean, it's almost like I'm fluent in whatever that is. It's fascinating. Oh, joy. A flesh eating parasite is advancing towards the United States. Is it called moderate republicanism? I'm just curious because we already have that flesh eating disease. My favorite thing about this story is the insane image that they use. To at the top of it, it's like a blurred out vision of chaos and cows and it's one cow in the middle and it's just total chaos. But they said that we are fighting against the screw worm, a again, moderate republicanism, a parasite that eats animals alive, cows, pigs, even humans. Yeah. The larvae of the parasitic fly chew through the flesh, transforming small nicks into big, gruesome wounds. Sounds totally metal. Yeah, they mess with you pretty bad. Can't we just kill them? Right? Yeah, I feel like that's something we should do. I don't have this one in, but now I do. The amazing SMOD. We could have a SMOD, guys. We could have a SMOD. Apparently, there's not like one, but there could be three sus asteroids that are in something like Venus's belt and it could generate millions of times more energy than Hiroshima. And it's difficult to discern them because of solar flares. So it could happen. I'm telling you. Wink. Stick with us. Hey, folks. So I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. So this is why I partnered with Gold Co., the top rated precious metals company, to help you take a step towards protecting your financial future. Smart investors look to hard assets like gold and silver to help weather the storm. It's a strategy that's been used for generations. And right now you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit that breaks it all down for you. And if you qualify, you could receive unlimited bonus silver, real silver matched to your account with no taxes or penalties. It's a smart move that could help you feel more secure with what lies ahead. Visit DanaLikesGold.com to get started. That's DanaLikesGold.com and move forward with confidence.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Of course we should be talking about how, yeah, if, you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible, not just for gay people to get married, but for straight people to get divorced, let alone like birth control or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever people, most people would have a problem with.
SPEAKER 21 :
What the hell is he talking about? I mean, if Speaker Johnson got his way, all the gay people would be just illegal. That's... He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, guys. It's the former mayor's secretary, new mom, vice admiral of the canoe fleet over at Camp Wimpy Tonka, Poot Booty Juice. Wait, hold up. Don't criticize how I say his name because our former illustrious president who had all of his brain cells, all of them, that's how he said his name. And that's the gold standard by which I operate, ladies and gentlemen. Dana Lash with you. Welcome back. We're at the bottom of this first hour. He says that it's they should that Johnson was he was going to make it to where gay people couldn't do anything and straight people couldn't get divorced. And yeah, I don't I don't know what he's basing that off of. Imagine like you just do a live stream and say whatever the hell you can. Can you imagine if I actually took to air not knowing anything about which I was discussing and just rambled and just incoherently pulled stuff out of the ether just to suit whatever, you know. Yeah, I would be held—I mean, they go with me all the time. I've been on air for three hours every day for years. I have a beat reporter assigned to me at Media Matters. Yes, they would find out something if I said anything incorrect. If they don't even like it, they go after me. I mean, to hell with it being incorrect. But if you're a Democrat, you can just— Yeah, well, Mike Johnson's going to make all the—he's going to illegal all the gays and— That and the straight people, they can't get divorced or have white claws. It's going to be so bad. Imagine having a 4th of July with no white claws. So bad. But that's what it's like listening to him every time he opens his mouth to give a perspective. It's like drunk without the alcohol. It's what you feel like. So if you've never had a drop, it feels like that. You're listening and you're like, am I sober? Is this supposed to make sense? I don't know. So it feels like. But but, you know, he's he's he's trying to get he's working hard on behalf of the Dems because guys, they're going to have to they're going to have to try to talk to dudes and You know, the party that was like toxic masculinity is now going, wait, but wait, we messed up. Oops. That's where they're at right now. So they said that they're spending $20 million trying to connect with dudes by studying their syntax. S-Y-N-T-X. Yeah, whatever that means. That's what they want to do. Audio soundbite nine. Listen to this. This is one strategist literally saying exactly this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, good questions. One, let me save the folks from the Times and all the other great print outlets some time. If you dig in on what Democrats are researching right now, you're going to find a lot of silly stuff. You're going to find people asking a lot of questions, people asking about syntax and do I drop the G for this word and this and that. And there's going to be a lot of that. So let me just warn everybody, that process is going to be very obnoxious for this 40-something. I would also say we're really talking about young men, right? Young men who Democrats have not figured out a consistent pitch for how to get them.
SPEAKER 21 :
They're toxic. And then women can be men. I mean, you know, you guys have have kicked them around for the better part of 40 years. Whether it was the Title IX stuff, whether it was promoting women over men in the name of false equality, whatever it was, you guys have attacked dudes for endlessly, for forever. Toxic masculinity. Dudes that are young Gen Z are terrified to even date chicks because of everything that the left has done. So, yeah, $20 million they think is going to help band-aid that error. So after impugning their characters, again, for the better part of 40 years, now Democrats are going, wait, we messed up. Hold up. Here's an excerpt. For now, Democratic donors and strategists have been gathering at luxury hotels to discuss how to win back working-class voters, commissioning new projects that read like anthropological studies of people from faraway places. The prospectus for one new $20 million effort obtained by The Times aims to reverse the ocean of democratic support amongst young men, especially online. It's codenamed SAM, short for Speaking with American Men, a strategic plan, and promises investment to, quote, study the syntax, language, and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces. And it recommends buying advertisements in video games, amongst other things. All they know is that younger dudes play games and they're like, something, something games. You can't just buy an ad. You know why the Democrats have not been successful in gaming? Because they don't play them. And Republicans haven't been successful because they're a bunch of damn cowardly tipper gores who want to put explicit lyrics on everything. These people that attack video games, oh my gosh, it's like I'm watching Tipper Gore 2.0. for the love no that you can't fake it you cannot fake it that's you're either in that community or you're not that's not one that is not a community that you can fake it with but what is this to study the syntax what does that mean kane what the hell does that mean what does it even mean it's there that's the language they want to they want to hijack it they want to understand it but they're acting like they're foreign like species right like we have to talk like these aliens
SPEAKER 18 :
How you do, fellow kids?
SPEAKER 21 :
Why, hello, fellow male. They tried that once with that ad. Remember that ad where that, they all look like rapists. They all look like soft rapists. That Democrat ad that they were, whoa, oh man, hang on, hang on, hang on.
SPEAKER 18 :
Their version of masculine.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, yeah, I'm a masculine man or something like that. What, oh, da, da, da, da, da, da. Is this is this it? Oh, I got to find it. No, there's one where it's the voting one. They came out with one ad where it was like men that were bullying their women into voting. And then there was the one where you had this one guy who he looked like a bottom and he was sitting on a truck going, I'm a manly man. I'm like, no, you're not. No, you're not. You're not. You only the only person who probably buys more lube than you is Diddy. No, you're not. You know what I'm talking about, though? I'm sorry. I can't just now. And every single dude in that ad, they looked it was they were all terrifying. That was the that was the. Attempt that they had I guess at trying to talk to dudes and it horrified dudes Yes, the that ad that Steve just put on there. Yes. That is it. That is the ad that is literally it and and I mean, again, it's also the party that had David Hogg as their vice chair. Yeah, they had those weird, like, I like steak. I'm a man. Men like bourbon. Therefore, I like bourbon. So you're going to think I'm a man. Like, you guys, Juan's putting it up for you. My favorite was the guy who was sitting like a pageant queen on the back of a truck. Yeah, and then you have the one guy. I can't believe that they got these lines out without laughing to death.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think he actually said, I eat trannies for breakfast. If you remember that line, he said, I eat trannies.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, it was the guy in the cowboy hat.
SPEAKER 01 :
Man enough to deadlift 500. Shut up.
SPEAKER 08 :
You think I'm afraid to rebuild a carburetor? I eat carburetors for breakfast.
SPEAKER 21 :
Like the one guy in the orange shirt. He's sitting like a pageant queen. That guy looks like he beats his wife. That guy looks like that guy right there. And then who's the prospector? Where the hell does this guy come from? They just got me out of the valley. I was prospecting for gold. But this is what I mean. And look, he ripped his sleeves off. You know, he went to like urban outfitters and got that shirt. That guy, his arms weren't, but this guy right here. Who, can I just say, what man sits like this? I mean, it's rhetorical, but none of them do. Look at him. He's like tweaking. This guy.
SPEAKER 18 :
I sit like that when I've.
SPEAKER 21 :
He's in an orange polo and he's sitting on the back of a truck and he's turned and he's got his hands on his leg like he's a pageant queen. And he's like, oh, you better believe I'm a man or I'm going to beat you. That's his whole aura. I'm going to beat you vibes from that? Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 21 :
Silence of the Lambs. It puts the lotion in the basket. He's totally giving me those vibes.
SPEAKER 18 :
I said a little like that.
SPEAKER 21 :
And then you got the DMX wannabe who's sitting there like, I'll braid the whatever out of my daughter's hair. And I'm just like, shut up. What is the matter with you? No dudes talk like this. They just do it. Right? I mean, if you have to sit here and tell people that you're a manly dude, men know this. Men know immediately that you're not. And Democrats are like, the prospector kills me every time I see him because the shirt is just over the top. God love him. But I'm just trying to understand why Democrats think that they have to spend $20 million because I'm pretty sure this ad was several million dollars. How much do you think that ad was to make, Cain?
SPEAKER 18 :
Those are all actors. From a production standpoint, it looks about, what, 8,000 won? Probably get that done with about 8,000, because there's no names in it, so you're not paying them much at all. So maybe 15,000 tops.
SPEAKER 21 :
Totally looks like California that they were in.
SPEAKER 18 :
But they probably spent a million on this. It's like $15,000 production.
SPEAKER 21 :
They had it well in that ripped-off shirt for the prospector. They had to go, you know. They had to go probably get him that shirt at Urban Outfitters.
SPEAKER 18 :
They gave him nuggets, gold nuggets.
SPEAKER 21 :
He got so mad, his sleeves just poof, came right off. They shot out the side like projectiles. And that guy, that guy was the meanest one of them all. But this is what Dems, my point is that Dems did this ad. This guy right here, look at his sleeves. I'm sorry, that's fake. Why do you cut yourself? Why do you just like put a wife beater on, man?
SPEAKER 18 :
They paid him in mining equipment.
SPEAKER 21 :
I bet he hates himself now. You know that. And the way that he moved, that dude's an actor. And I'm all for it. But if you're going to wear a shirt like that, I feel like, you know, after we lost Joan Rivers, I feel like I need to rise to that occasion and fill that need from time to time the best way that I can, knowing that I'm nowhere near close to her brilliance. But someone's got to step in and talk about this. Like, the hell? I see that and I'm like, what happened to your sleeves? Yeah. Did your muscles get so mad they blew them off? Like what happened? I don't get it. Stop. That guy's an actor. They're all actors. Like there was an article that talked about how they were all hired from an agency. None of these people are real. This guy probably never rode a damn bike in his life. And he's like, I'm working on my bike. And he's got his, you know, he probably don't even know what his tools are. The whole point is that Democrats tried this before. They did this ad. They did like three ads last cycle. And how did they show men? The first one was they did an ad where they were trying to show conservative men, Republican men, like they were going to beat their wives if they didn't vote for Trump, right? For the love. And then they're like, well, I guess we better walk it back. We need to appeal to men instead of, I guess, making them look like they're horrible people. And so they did this ad that made them look like they're horrible people. The most unlikable actors. It's like they went to the agency. Yes. Give me the most unlikable actors you have. I want women to flinch when they see them on the screen. That's what I want. That's what we're going for. Yes, Kane.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think they literally thought, let's get a cross section of what we think MAGA looks like. And we're going to message that way. Like we're going to message as though we're reaching out to the MAGA crowd.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, it's just so shallow. Yes, I can deadlift this and then I can braid my daughter's hair. Like one excludes the other. I don't think you quite understand the concept of chivalry. Oh, my gosh. It's just I can't stand this. So they're spending 20 million, 20 million donor dollars. Let me let me clarify that. So Democrats get donations. So the people who have been donating to the Democrat Party, whatever brain trust brought you those ads. Those are the people that are going to be trying to refine their messaging to dudes. Oh, this is – I want them to – no, you want them to do this. We want them to do this. I'm just – picture it. Content gold. Oh, my gosh. We're going to make so much fun of this. It's going to be insane. And if they have Secretary Newmom, Vice Admiral of the Canoe Fleet, Rear Vice Admiral of the Canoe Fleet, Camp Wimpy Tonka – Yeah, yeah, yeah. Booty juice. If they have him spearheading this, oh, please, for the love of all things holy, let this happen. I don't ask for a lot. No, hold up. I asked for a Datsun for my birthday and I didn't get one. So at least give me that. And I asked it for Wick, my rescue dog. I was like, he needs a dog. It makes so much sense because he does wink. He does. I didn't get that. So can I have this? Can I have this? Mother's Day was last month, like earlier this month. It's not over yet. I can still get like a belated Mother's Day. So this could happen and we could see, have Poop Booty Juice leading this and the messaging would be endless. Oh my gosh, guys. Like I am here for the summer of sis. I am totally here for that. Hard work, self-reliance, showing up. That's what built this country. And it's exactly how our president leads. No excuses, no handouts, just results. But let's be honest, even the most dedicated Americans can't run on empty. Real sleep isn't a luxury. It's essential. And that's where Beam's Dream Powder comes in. It's proudly American-made, created by folks who believe in the same values that we do, discipline, integrity, and doing what it takes to succeed. Dream is a clean science-backed blend of re-sheet magnesium, L-theanine, apigenin, and melatonin carefully formulated to help you fall asleep fast, stay asleep, and wake up refreshed. If you're serious about showing up strong for your family, for work, and your country, then start with better sleep. So here's the deal. Beam is giving my listeners the ultimate Patriot discount of up to 40% off. True. Try their best-selling dream powder and get up to 40% off for a limited time. Just visit shopbeam.com slash danashow and you can use code danashow at checkout. That's shopbeam.com slash danashow and use code danashow for 40% off. Sleep better, wake up stronger, and show up ready for your family, your work, and your country. Because when you're well-rested, you're unstoppable.
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SPEAKER 02 :
I felt like it was important to get on the blower and talk a little bit about how I'm feeling and wondering how you're feeling about the state of our union. I'm finding myself pretty scared about a lot of things, scared about losing my rights as a woman, scared about losing my right to vote as a woman, scared about losing autonomy over my body as a woman, scared of my parents' social security checks. I'm scared of food banks running out of food and not being able to replenish because they're no longer getting federal funding.
SPEAKER 21 :
I love the tragedy theater that these people on the left that they engage in. I mean, she's saying all of this stuff like losing my right to vote as a woman. What does that even mean? Like, how is your right to vote under threat? Yeah, it's rhetorical. It's stupid. Stop fear-mongering people. I mean, that's a big B move. Stop fear-mongering people. I'm like, wait, I'm going to lose my bodily autonomy. Oh, like with COVID, when you made your stupid little videos and you were dancing in your yard telling everyone to get injections like that? You know, where you were going along with your party's ideology of no bodily autonomy and you were demanding under threat of penalty that everybody get injected with some experimental weird juice? That? I mean, you know, like, pick your flavor. Like, what are you going to be for today? You're for bodily autonomy now, but you weren't under COVID. How cute that that changes because your principles are in sand. How so nice that is. I mean, that's Kevin Bacon's wife. Yeah. And it makes me question Bacon. Yeah. Kevin Bacon, you know? Yeah. Because, like, he was the one, everybody who played Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, where you were at least six, everybody was no more than six people away from Kevin Bacon, right? Right. Now I'm like, do we want to be any closer? Because like, is he like her? But she did this. She did all these social media videos during all lockdown, like telling everybody, you're going to get yourself hot with your mask. Did all those videos and lectured people. And supported the mandatory moves of government against individuals as it pertained to masking and school and, you know, opening businesses and distancing and all that stupid stuff. But this idea that I've been hearing this forever, you're going to lose your right to vote. You're going to know, but you do lose it with actual Democrats. That's for damn sure. And you can lose your life, too, because of their policies. We're going to talk about an 18 year old who was killed by an illegal immigrant down the road for me just just this weekend. Stick with us. So let's be real. Medical freedom isn't just a catchphrase. It's your right. Your health decisions belong to you and not the government, not Big Pharma, and definitely not someone elected bureaucrat. So that's why I'm all in on what All Family Pharmacy is doing. They're putting medical power back where it belongs, and that's in the hands of you, Americans. Through the end of June, they're making it even easier to take back control because when you control your health, you protect your family, your future, and your freedom. Get 20% off site-wide. No insurance? No problem. No insurance needed. And licensed doctors in all 50 states. You'll also receive fast shipping straight to your doorstep. This isn't just about convenience. It's also about freedom. You can get ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. You can get methylene blue, emergency kits, antibiotics. Whatever you need to be prepared, proactive, and protected. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use promo code Dana20 to get 20% off your order. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana20. Don't wait for permission. Own your health and take your freedom seriously.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Well, those are showing us the way you have to go line by line, contract by contract. We I think a small business probably spends more time going line by line through its budget than Congress. Congress does three seven thousand billion dollar a year.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, and he's right. That's Senator Ron Johnson. And he's absolutely right. And he's saying in this interview that was this morning that. You know, we can go line by line and cut this. And he was a no. There's some others that are a no on this. Rand Paul is a no on the bill in the Senate. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. I get aggravated because I'm so tired of people who don't understand. And these are people who always apologize for rhinos and they're attacking like the fiscal people. like the actual fiscal conservatives, the people who gave rise to the Tea Party movement or who were born of it, who held Congress accountable back in 2010, very successfully, I might add. And then rhinos learn how to play. And now the rhinos are like, well, if you don't support our runaway big spending and adding three plus trillion dollars to the deficit, to the debt, then then you're then you're the problem. Which, obviously, that's unacceptable. So we're going to talk about this in a little bit of depth, give you some perspective on it. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second hour. Listen coast to coast. Channel 347 is the stream. The chat is at Rumble. And this, I think a lot of people, like I said previously, one of the big issues is everybody's busy and everybody has stuff going on. you have work and then on top of it, you are trying to keep up with what your government is doing. You would not run your home's budget in the manner that Congress is running theirs. And they are trying to use the chaos and confusion around the process as a way to excuse them from actually implementing any kind of serious changes now there's two different there's two different things at play here the first thing at play is this reconciliation process through which we are passing the Quote unquote, one big, beautiful bill. Right. Reconciliation process, which is very different from a rescission. Reconciliation is you're you're using the you're trying to get around the filibuster in the Senate and you need 51, not 60. And it is this is the procedure in which we are able to. expedite the passage of bills, of proposed legislation that affect mandatory spending, right? You're talking Medicare, Social Security taxes, things like that, as so long as it is in line and germane to the fiscal point of the bill, so long as it's germane to all of it. And you can do spending adjustments. There's a bunch of things that you can do with reconciliation. And the rescission is something where POTUS, he requests to cancel or proposes to cancel certain things that have been previously appropriated as it pertains to discretionary spending. And then the Byrd rule that comes into play is if there is something that is outside of what is germane to the budget bill that is proposed that is then stripped out in the Senate per the Byrd rule. So that's what that means. Now, you can still have a rescissions package. I mean, POTUS can still submit that proposal to members of Congress. And I think Congress has like a month or something to consider it. I think it's a little over a month. They have a little over a month to consider it. And then you have to have a simple majority to pass that. And then if they don't act on it, then the rescission fails, et cetera, et cetera. So and they can include that as part of this with the big, beautiful bill. But again, there's the so you have these two of this process reconciliation. You have the rescission package that POTUS could propose. But then separate from that, you also have congressional action as it pertains to other legislation that targets codifying the Doge cuts. And so what Republicans are trying to do right now, the weak ones, the moderates, they're trying to they're trying to purposely conflate everything to dodge accountability. So when you say, well, we need to codify these these codify these these doge cuts, we need to make sure that these are permanent. They'll tell you, oh, well, you can't do that with this reconciliation package. Oh, my gosh, that's you know, that's not a lot. Well, first off, that's not entirely true because some of it is completely germane to that budget bill and absolutely can be done. But aside from that. What you're also requesting is that Congress act separately, legislatively, to make permanent those executive orders, which is separate from this whole process that we just got done describing. But they're trying to conflate it all, like how Democrats conflate legal and illegal immigration so that they can portray that you're against all immigration. So you have these moderate Republicans that are trying to act like this is all one big thing and they can't do any of it because they're ignoring the fact that you're separately requesting action on this other adjacent issue. Does that make sense? That's what they're doing. It's all a tactic. It's all entirely a tactic. Like, for instance, one of the things that that I was talking about as it pertains to, like as an example, I think one of the best ones was the issue of Planned Parenthood funding because Planned Parenthood funding absolutely is discretionary and can be targeted, but you had a number of lawmakers that were fighting to keep it included. I guess they were worried about how that was going to play for midterms. I guess they were worried about how that was going to work out. I don't know. It's frustrating. This is what poked us. This is new. Because Musk, first off, can I play one and then I want to play the soundbite from Trump that was five minutes ago. Let's play audio soundbite one really quickly so you get an idea of what Trump is responding to in the soundbite. Listen.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, you know, I was like disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it. And it reminds the work that the Doge team is doing.
SPEAKER 03 :
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along, I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful. But I don't know if it can be both. My personal opinion.
SPEAKER 21 :
So he's and he's right, because it's not just about what you can cut and reconciliation. It's also about what you can request with a rescissions package and then separately what you can propose in different legislation to make permanent these cuts. Trump responded to what Musk had said. And this was just a couple of minutes ago. Go ahead and listen to this if we have it.
SPEAKER 26 :
In a television interview, criticized the one big, beautiful bill, saying he was disappointed it didn't cut enough, essentially, that undercut the Doge efforts. What's your reaction to that?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, the reaction's a lot of things. Number one, we have to get a lot of votes. We can't be cutting. You know, we need we need to get a lot of support. And we have a lot of support. We had to get it through the House. The House was, we have no Democrats. You know, if it's up to the Democrats, they'll take the 65% increase. You know, if that doesn't get approved, this country is going to have a 65% increase in taxes and lots of other problems, big problems, almost bigger than that. But we'll have a 65% increase as opposed to the largest tax cut in the history of our country. We will be negotiating that bill. And I'm not happy about certain aspects of it, but I'm thrilled by other aspects of it. That's the way they go. It's very big. It's the big, beautiful bill. But the beautiful is because of all of the things we have. The biggest thing being, I would say, the... the level of tax cutting that we're going to be doing. We're going to make people really be able to, we'll have one of the lowest tax rate we've ever had in the history of our country and tremendous amounts of benefit are going to the middle income people of our country, low and middle income people of our country. So we're going to see what happens because the Senate, as you know, is negotiating with us and they have to then go back to the House and, you know, it's got a way to go. But I have to say, Speaker Johnson, And Thune has done an incredible job. John Thune has done a fantastic leader.
SPEAKER 21 :
So this was POTUS just responding to that a few minutes ago. I disagree with the biggest tax cuts because even those tax cuts have a four year have a have a four year sunset. So that no tip the no taxes on tips and all of that stuff that all of that. Once again, it's temporary tax. It's all going to sunset again in twenty twenty eight. So I disagree with that because it's the that is the one. And the reason why that was done was to get it in at to get it scored a certain way through the congressional budgetary office. And we talked about that last week. And the idea that and that's what that's I think that's what that's the same tactic that that was used, if you remember, came back in 2017 with those tax cuts. But they what what they promised us when they when they proposed and passed those tax cuts in 2017, they kept saying, well, yeah, we're going to come back. I will make them permanent. Well, what happened? The same damn thing that's going to happen now. We were rolling into a midterm 2018 election. And guess what happened? Republicans ran to the center. They did not want to cut taxes. So all of the tax cuts that were proposed in this is why I get so harsh on it. People try to gaslight me and act like we didn't live through this. Hell, we just went through this in 2017 where it was proposed. They were temporary and Republicans promised everybody just, you know, we got midterms after midterms. We're going to tackle this again. And guess what? They didn't do it, which is why these tax cuts are set to expire. And now they're doing the exact same thing again in order to get it scored through the CBO a certain way so that they can have it be as add as little to the debt as possible and still maintain the additional levels of discretionary spending that actually absolutely is in this bill that they could cut that's inarguable and i'll explain in a moment what they could be doing is they could make them permanent but they had to have it scored a certain way so that's why they all have a four-year cap no taxes on tips all this other stuff all is going to expire when he's out of office like right when we're going into another presidential election that's when all of this stuff is going to come up do you think that republicans then are going to revisit it and say oh We're getting ready to go in a presidential election. I think that Democrats are probably going to have a stronger candidate. God help us. And do you think that Republicans are going to what are they going to have to give up in order to even get a little ground of what they want for making something like this permanent? That's the other question that you have to ask. So we already went through this in 2017. The reason that we're here again is because none of it was made permanent. So it's all happening again. And you could get the scoring that you want if you cut some of this other discretionary stuff. There are absolutely things that are funded in here through Medicaid and SNAP. It includes waste, fraud, and abuse that are absolutely discretionary, that do not violate the Byrd Rule, and that they do not fall under the category of mandatory cuts that are auto-funded. That is a lie that they're telling you to dodge responsibility and dodge accountability. Absolutely. So that's that's the reality of this situation. Happy to even go in more depth with it because they could cut more. They don't even without even having to cap the tax cuts. And that they always say, oh, well, mandatory, we can't do it mandatory. And they want you to, they act like you're stupid and that you don't know or can't easily just, you know, read some stuff about how this is structured, mandatory and discretionary spending, et cetera. There is a focus on mandatory cuts. There's a focus, sorry, on mandatory spending. Like, for instance, one of they were looking at a couple of hundred billion from Medicaid that was waste, fraud and abuse. And then you saw what happened when some of these moderate Republicans got keyed in on it because of the media's narrative. Oh, my gosh, Republicans are going to cut. That's all we heard about, Cain. All last week. That's all we heard about. And what did you hear from some of these Republicans out there? Oh, my gosh. Well, maybe we should be a little bit more cautious in what we cut as it pertains to, you know, maybe Medicaid spending and. I think it was like $260 billion from SNAP, waste, fraud, and abuse. They were terrified about cutting that. With Planned Parenthood, they were terrified about cutting Planned Parenthood, and they tried to lie and say that it was mandatory spending, which it absolutely wasn't. It was discretionary spending, and it was an appropriation for a specific thing that wasn't auto-funded. But this is the stuff that they do. This is what they do. We have a lot more on the way. We're not even getting I haven't even dug a third of the way into this. But they're there. The Republican Party is going to make media narratives a reality if they don't get it together. Also, ticket prices plummeting for WNBA. We'll explain why. And an 18 year old cadet killed because someone was here illegally. Drunk and on a jet ski. Our partners that help bring you the program, the folks over at Burn a Gun. I always carry. I'm always going to tell you to carry. 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SPEAKER 18 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
So, oh, now there's a new highly infectious covid strain from China that's led to a massive spike in hospitalizations. And now it's in New York City. I will punch people in the face if they try to make me wear a mask. I will be on cops. I will be. I'm not joking. I literally will be on cops. That will happen. I have not an ounce of F's to give. I can't. God help us all.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think this is a response to the fact that yesterday they just said they're not going to recommend the COVID shot for healthy people or pregnant women and children. So all of a sudden now we're going to see COVID news?
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, it's a new NB181 variant. It was first detected in late March. It's a coincidence, I'm sure. Now, the CDC says there's too few cases to be properly tracked in their variant estimates, but they're warning that the virus is run in China. That's bad grammar. It should be S apostrophe S. It's an AP style, not single apostrophe S. Virus is run in China. It shows that it spreads more quickly than other dominant strains of the respiratory infection. How about you quit eating bats? I mean, that's also a thing. I'm not covering up nothing. Come and physically make me. You'll be taken out in a body bag, but come physically make me. AI could be listening in on your next doctor's appointment. I assume that it's listening in to me all the time. So I say crazy things sometimes just out of nowhere, just to mess with it. I'm not kidding you. I absolutely will do. I do that entirely. It's not I'm not kidding. I do this all the time. Just to mess with it. And you do that too, Cain. If we're talking about shopping for items, you will literally say things out of nowhere to mess it up.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. But it always comes back with the item that we talked about. It's weird.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 21 :
So Rick Derringer has passed away, age 77. And a lot of you reminded me of this or brought this up to me because my granny's rule of three. And Rick Derringer, you guys know that. He did a lot. I mean, he had a lot of stuff. Obviously, this song. And then, of course, Hang On Sloopy, which was about a boat. All kinds of good stuff. But 77 years old. That's just, it's like, because he doesn't seem, I don't know. It just doesn't seem like he's like 77 years old. I know. A lot of these like rock music, they don't seem like they, you know, I don't know. Unless you're, what's his face? Rolling Stones. Rolling Stones. Keith Richards unless you're Keith Richards welcome back Dana Lash with you at the bottom of this second hour so wait a minute remind me because everyone's like is so many people have been sending me dead people names like oh this is your granny's rule of three rule of three here for granny how is it now Steve you said the same thing so Rick Derringer makes three remind me the other two can't help me out here hold on I know I was counting in my head but I don't remember the first two
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, let's see. So the latest, man, we'd have to look up the latest because when it comes to celebrity deaths, you have the question, and we've had that question the past couple of weeks, are these people celebrities?
SPEAKER 21 :
It has to be in a certain period of time.
SPEAKER 27 :
Yeah. So does George Brandt from Cheaters come into this?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes, George Wendt. George Wendt. Oh, sorry. George Wendt is one. Absolutely. Norm is number one. So Derringer would be two. But who's the third one? Because everyone's like, oh, this is Greeny's rule of three. I'm like, okay, well, okay, who then?
SPEAKER 18 :
Didn't we just have... So that member of Congress that just passed away, was it Connolly or something? Rangel. Oh, yeah, Rangel also just passed. Oh, that's another one that just passed.
SPEAKER 21 :
So that would be three. Wait, if there's another one, then that starts over.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's happening to Congress.
SPEAKER 21 :
Who... Who do we... Who else do we have? Ruth Buzzi. Okay, so Ruth Buzzi. So... So... We have Rick Derringer. Oh, my gosh. All the dead people. Derringer. Who else did I just say? Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 18 :
We can't forget Phil Robertson.
SPEAKER 21 :
George Wendt. Phil Robertson. Phil Robertson. That's three. And then we have Ruth Buzzy. So that's... We need two more. Otherwise, those are rules. I didn't make them. My grandmother did.
SPEAKER 27 :
I was doing Duck Dynasty there. So that would have been three for me.
SPEAKER 21 :
Okay. So... I think two more got to go. Ooh, that's kind of scary. Who's on the Deadpool? Just, well, I'm being, it's, okay, for those of you who don't understand this, my grandmother, God rest her soul, was a very suspicious lady. Superstitious lady, also suspicious. And she had a, everybody always dies in threes. And it always made sense. And it always does. That is the way that it works. I don't know. I don't make the rules. At least to me, that's the way it works. So anyway, with the inclusion of Ruth Buzzy, because you have Derringer, Wendt, Derringer, Wendt, Robertson. And then you would have Buzzy, Rangel, Charlie Rangel. So basically one more. Didn't David Sauter? Didn't he pass?
SPEAKER 18 :
So what's the length of time?
SPEAKER 21 :
Usually like within a month.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, so on May 7th, that movie actor, Joe Don Baker.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't know who that is. It doesn't count for me.
SPEAKER 18 :
What?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, he doesn't count for me.
SPEAKER 18 :
He's like a staple in all the 80s and early 90s movies. Not for me.
SPEAKER 21 :
Mm-mm.
SPEAKER 18 :
He passed away, so he doesn't count.
SPEAKER 21 :
See, this is where it gets weird. I don't know that, so I don't think it.
SPEAKER 18 :
We need a standard then. We need a standard that tells us.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, the fact that you had, do you know who that guy is, Steve?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, I have no idea. I don't mean to be dismissive. He grew up in Texas, which is why.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't mean to be dismissive, but it's, you know, if they're not widely known, I don't think it counts.
SPEAKER 18 :
Here, I'll just put the, how do you not recognize this dude?
SPEAKER 21 :
If you're asking me, I don't, because I don't.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's like I've seen him in all kinds of movies.
SPEAKER 21 :
I, I, I, he looks kind of familiar. I don't know. He looks like an old Jesse Plemons.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's Kirsten Dunst's husband. So I don't know. I think Sauter maybe makes it three. So it would have to start all over. Hmm. That's, I mean, that's everybody knows him. He's SCOTUS. So everybody knows him. So I think that, so as long as nobody else kicks off.
SPEAKER 18 :
So no matter what, we're in a new group.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, we're going to be starting a new group no matter what. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. So just so we're all, we've got to make sure, right? Because we're all looking around like, who's going to drop? Who's going to? I don't want to be mean, but you know, it's a saying. Can we, okay, first we're, let's discuss this issue. Hold up. This happened in, so we live in, actually near Grapevine Lake in Texas. DFW Metroplex. And this is a wild, wild story. And I feel so bad for this young woman who lost her life, 18 years old. And ended up, she was killed by a illegal immigrant who was in the country illegally. Taken into custody. Thank heavens. The name of her, of the person taken into custody, the victim's name is Ava Moore. It was Memorial Day weekend and she was killed with, there were two illegal aliens on a jet ski, apparently. And Alejandra Gonzalez, I don't know why, they have two, I don't know, hit her with a jet ski, hit Moore with her jet ski and then fled the scene. And she was taken in another vehicle with another Venezuelan illegal alien, 21-year-old Mikaylo Perrozo. And they hit another car while they were fleeing. And apparently there was alcohol in the car, according to eyewitnesses. So 18-year-old Ava Moore was in Grapevine Lake and this illegal alien ran her over with a jet ski, killed her. And then tried to flee the scene. She was arrested by Texas Game Wardens, Grapevine Police and Homeland Security Investigations. I can't even imagine. That is insane. So two people have been arrested. She was kayaking. How do you run into a kayak with a jet ski? And the people on the jet ski were reportedly drinking. And then when they tried to flee the scene, they rammed another car while trying to flee the scene. And eyewitnesses said they had blatantly open containers in the vehicle. They had alcohol in the vehicle. They were drunk as all get out. And they had liquor in the vehicle apparently. And that's because it's all over all the Facebook groups. People have got video. There's video of her being bundled into the car. And you can see people with drinks. I mean, it's all over Facebook and the community Facebook pages. Because, I mean, it was Memorial Day weekend. Grapevine Lake, Kane, as you can attest, super popular spot. Everybody, Memorial Day weekend, people are on the water. That's the way it is. It's lake life. People are on the water. Very, very, very popular. And, yeah, I mean, they tried to flee. 18 years old, she was an Air Force cadet. I can't even imagine.
SPEAKER 18 :
And everybody that, you know, relaxes and has fun on that lake, always courteous. Everyone's always nice. There's never any sort of bup-bup-buzz, the pop-up. Yeah. Like, this was really out of character for the area, and it's devastating.
SPEAKER 21 :
The 18-year-old, she had severe traumatic injuries. People were trying to get her out of the water and provide first aid, but it was... And she was in a kayak. She was hit and killed while kayaking. And she graduated from Keller Timberview High School. She was in the Air Force Academy. She had been there for 10 months. She graduated on May 19th and she had literally just accepted an appointment to join the United States Air Force Academy as a member of the 2029 class. She was a cadet candidate. She was a basketball player. She was a gifted athlete. She was a good student. She was very well regarded by all of her friends. And she was kayaking. And these people run her over. I mean, I'm just, it's sickening. And the woman who they tried to, and I told you that as they were fleeing, they hit another vehicle. They run out of the water. Boy, they get off that jet ski and they're running out of the water trying to get away. And it was two females on the jet ski and then a male who was everybody was illegal. Every damn person that was helping this illegal criminal drunk ass be get up, get away from the scene after she just murdered a woman. They were all illegal, all here illegally trying to evade the law. So spare me the whole. Oh, well, it's a victimless crime. Shut up. It is not. And she looked like a hot mess, too, by the way. I'm sorry. Can I. Oh, gosh, please. Lord, put a hand over my mouth right now. Can I just say, first off? Kane, God help me. The person that they arrested. Hmm. She just looks like I mean, she looks like absolute trash. She's got like these absolute ridiculous Jasmine Crockett type eyelashes on her face. These fake eyelashes. She looks she looks she looks like a fat whore. Can I I'm just going to say it out there drunk as a skunk. Caterpillars on her eyes. Hell, I wouldn't be able to see if I had that stuff on my eyes already drinking and driving a jet ski drunk as a skunk, according to eyewitnesses. There were women that live in my area that were taking video footage of them trying to leave. And I mean, it was like bumper cars. They were apparently trying to get out of that area so fast and flee law enforcement. Insane. You know, there are families that go to Grapevine Lake. There are little kids that are up there. Kids that, you know, that play on the shore. There's kids swimming. There's kids paddle boarding. You know, there are people kayaking. And if you get on a jet ski, you don't rip through no wake areas. You know, you practice, you know, good maritime manners, right? Of course, if you come over here illegally and you disregard that law and you're drunk as a skunk and you're operating motor vehicles, completely severely impaired, running people over, then, yeah, you're probably not paying attention to all of that. And I do not apologize for anything that I say about this murderer's appearance either at all. In fact, I am being gracious and not saying more. People like this should be dragged away. This is a choice. It is a choice to do this stuff. There's a suspect right now. Finally, after they caught her, Grapevine Police, Texas Game Wardens, and Homeland Security, they finally caught her. They were trying to leave. They were going to evade this justice this whole time. No, I'll say it again. I do not feel bad at all. She deserves that and more. And they took, in fact, the first images that came out. Of her were from Texas Game Warden. They were the ones that had the first images of her. And... They were telling them, you know, don't flee. Don't flee. You have to stay here. And they were still running away anyway. I mean, there and there were there were people who live in this area that speak Spanish and they know exactly what was being said. And apparently there was a lot of discussion amongst the group, like nobody in their group apparently was here legally and they were all trying to flee. There's what that's what game wardens released is the initial picture of the suspect when she was there. Drunk as a skunk, dressed like a hoochie with caterpillars on her eyes. OK, there you go. I mean, if you want to dress like that, that's fine. But you get to you get called on the carpet when you run over an 18 year old because you're drinking and acting up on the lake. And I mean, it is it's I mean, it makes everybody scared to have their families out on the lake. It's unbelievable. They had one mother who was visiting and her Nicole Perez. And see, that's the other thing. There are there are other like Hispanic American families that go there. Right. You know, I mean, it's it's just a family area. It's a safe area. Nicole Perez and her family. She was saying, we trust these places and that stuff like that is not going to happen here. And yet it happens here. There were a lot of families that were livid, livid. There's a family that I know that were there. They were on the other side of the lake. And they there was like they seized all the watercraft in the area that time when they were getting her out of the water. And they were livid. And it's a Cuban family. And they were livid. They're like, oh, my gosh, a whole group of people here from Venezuela illegally.
SPEAKER 18 :
I have some video.
SPEAKER 21 :
Be careful because there's some language in it, some of it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, we won't play any audio from the video, but it appears in this video. This is the moment that these girls got off the jet ski and tried to flee.
SPEAKER 21 :
oh boy yeah there's something yeah so this this video is pretty clear you could have played it from source but um juan's got it for us and he's putting it up on the screen right now yeah she's getting up there was there were two women and immediately yeah she's getting out yeah this is one of the that i saw float on facebook and she was she was trying to run away and uh Other people in the group, apparently, I don't know if anyone in their group was here legally. And there were other people who were trying to intervene on the shore, and they were just trying to get the two women out of there that ran this girl over and get them away. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Look at her.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, look at her. She's trying to flee right there.
SPEAKER 21 :
Just insane. Insane. Insane. Just trash. And you have and I know for the left, because it's, you know, very important for them. The 18 year old was a young woman of color. I know that's really important for the left. And that's all they really care about with stories like this. Now, I'm waiting for all the Democrats to go and try to have margaritas with this drunk driving trash. I'm just waiting. Wait. I mean, how long? I'm waiting. They're going to say Texas woman, right? When are they going to go have margaritas with her? I mean, that's the scary thing. is when the left talks about it, they act like it's a victimless crime, and it's not. One of the most, and I know we've got to get going, one of the stories that made such an impression on me, and it was one of our affiliates down there, yeah, Texas Beachgoers, what they'll call it, or Kane said, one of our affiliates down in McAllen, and we were talking to a family down there, they're a ranching family, and they were saying that because of the crime from, and they have land that's actually like on the Rio, right? And they were saying that it's, you know, it was so dangerous. It's so dangerous with the illegality, with the people coming across the border and trespassing on their land and, you know, leaving, you know, just after they changed their clothes, they've even found evidence of drugs. They found all kinds of stuff. And they have to spend I mean, it's like they're basically they lost a portion of their significant chunk of their land that they can never recover because of the criminality. And under Obama, Biden and under Biden, Harris, it was so bad that can you imagine like not even being able to use half of the property that you own because of the criminality that the federal government determines you have no authority to act against and they refuse to act against it either? I mean, it's not a victimless crime. And there are so many families that are being that are suffering because of this. We have a lot more. It just makes me so mad. I can hardly speak. I could just spit. I'm so mad about this. We have a lot more on the way. So let's be real. Medical freedom isn't just a catchphrase. It's your right. Your health decisions belong to you and not the government, not big pharma and definitely not someone elected bureaucrat. So that's why I'm all in on what all family pharmacy is doing. They're putting medical power back where it belongs. And that's in the hands of you Americans. Through the end of June, they're making it even easier to take back control because when you control your health, you protect your family, your future, and your freedom. Get 20% off site-wide. No insurance? No problem. No insurance needed. And licensed doctors in all 50 states. You'll also receive fast shipping straight to your doorstep. This isn't just about convenience. It's also about freedom. You can get ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. You can get methylene blue, emergency kits, antibiotics. Whatever you need to be prepared, proactive, and protected. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use promo code Dana20 to get 20% off your order. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana20. Don't wait for permission. Own your health and take your freedom seriously.
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I do worry, frankly, about what's happening right now in our world.
SPEAKER 23 :
I do worry that it is important that we remember history. It's important we remember the 1930s. It's important that we remember that history has taught us that isolation does not equal insulation. It is important that we understand and remember history, which taught us the interdependence and interconnection between nations.
SPEAKER 21 :
What is she talking about? Kamala Harris. I they keep trying to say the Democrats are excited about her, the prospect of her as a governor in California and every all the Democrats in California are going, no. We're not actually. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley with you. The top of this third hour. These people that sit here go, it's like the 30s. Clearly you weren't alive then. And it wasn't. I mean, just a basic historical inventory should tell you that it's nothing like the 30s. And I don't know what is happening in this administration that makes them think that it is. Can you clue me in, Kane? Am I missing something? Do we have people going to camps and being forced to wear pieces of cloth? And, oh, wait a minute. Huh?
SPEAKER 18 :
None of that's happening.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, we did with the left back in 2021, 22.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, yeah, the masks.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, getting, yeah, okay. Well, all right. But aside from that, though, you know. I mean, it's not like, you know, people are, you know, killing Jewish people in the street. Oh, wait a minute. Yeah, they are killing them in the streets in Washington, D.C. A leftist decided to kill two Jewish Americans. Okay. Yeah. All right. Hmm. Oh, I mean, it's not like, you know, they're going out and vandalizing the property of, you know, people. Oh, well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah, that actually is. That actually is true. They did. Okay. Yeah, they did. All right. Well, I want to disagree with her that it's not like the 30s, but for conservatives and Jewish Americans, it kind of seems like it is, isn't it? Huh? Huh? Just saying. So, again, welcome back. That was Kamala. How were people saying her name before? Kamala? Kamala. I think I'm going to say her name that way just to do it. You know, might as well. It makes more sense that way. She's going after the administration and Musk. I don't know. What do they have? They have nothing. Audio Sunbite 15. Speaking of vandalizing property. So CNN's Chris Sazila. Saliza. Sorry. Whatever. His Tesla was vandalized. Audio Sunbite 15. You know, going out and vandalizing people's property. I love the 30s. Go ahead and play this.
SPEAKER 06 :
A soccer tournament for my son. And we parked my car, which is a Tesla, and we went and watched the game. And when he and I came back, there was something attached to it that was not there when we had left. It was this. Someone had taped a sign, Musk is a Nazi, to my car. Now, they obviously had pre-written this, or they have a bunch of them, right? But Musk is a Nazi, taped to my car. So this is the first time I've experienced the sort of politics of Elon Musk and Tesla.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, wow. So now you're having to live with what you helped create. Yeah. It's amazing that issue, is it not? You have to actually now live with what you helped to create. Amazing. So the sign, that's one of the dumbest signs I've ever seen. Somebody had those in their car. I mean, that's like packing tape over it. Somebody crafted that. There's probably some like horrible cat leftist and they crafted that and they have a whole bunch of them in the back of their vehicle. I don't know. Should I be impressed that they didn't actually per se scratch the car's paint and they just taped it on the car? I don't know. Is that a step up?
SPEAKER 18 :
I still suspect he did it himself.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, you think he did?
SPEAKER 18 :
I think he probably did.
SPEAKER 21 :
It looks like girly writing, though.
SPEAKER 18 :
It does.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's something a chick would do or poop booty juice. Something he would do. But that looks like chick handwriting. That's chick print. I'm just trying to understand. So the electric car that the left celebrated and used as a standard to define how much they love the earth is now... A declaration of Nazism because you're mad that Elon Musk wanted to, checks notes, cut the wasteful spending of tax dollars in the federal government?
SPEAKER 18 :
That sure escalated quickly.
SPEAKER 21 :
Why do they always run to Nazi? Every time. Every time. Oh, but then, you know, Jewish people are killed in Washington, D.C. and they're like looking the other way. What? I don't know. It is amazing to me. I don't know. So they're now having to live with what they helped to create. And I do think that that's kind of, you know, I see that there is a major, with at least some of the left, how do I put it? Almost like a soft migration to the center, optically only. Think of like Tapper and all this stuff now. Like we can play some of this. I don't want to play a lot of it because I just can't. Audio soundbite six. Well, it's only 18 seconds. So he was lamenting Democrat issues that are in his estimation costing them support in the polls. Listen.
SPEAKER 28 :
left leaning podcast and we were talking about my kids. They asked me about my son and I said he wants to be a policeman. And their joke was about my 15 year old son. Oh, how does he feel about minorities? Like the idea that he wants to be a policeman, therefore he's he's racist. And I thought to myself, this is why you losing elections. I find it just insane.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, but but see, here's where the disbelief comes from. People like myself, if you find it insane, then why was it encouraged for so long? and allowed and supported, not just by the left, but by you and the way in which you practiced news reporting, not even gathering, but news reporting. I do feel like there's this like soft migration to the center optically only because they realize that the only way some of them have realized that the only way to be successful in future elections is to run to the right of their far left status quo ideology. Now, that's dangerous because they'll pick off a little bit of the coalition, particularly if Republicans can't get it together. They're not going to keep them. I mean, if it's, you know, but do they need to? They'll be locked in for at least a you know, four years maybe before a lot of seats have to come up for the Senate, although it's every six, but different election periods. And then, you know, four years after the next, you know, presidential election, it's not, but it's just enough for them to do serious damage as we saw the last four years. But there is a there's a real effort to to migrate softly to the center again, optically only because they're realizing that's how they're going to have that's how they're going to have to win elections. That's why you have people like where's this audio soundbite eight. Oh, oh, now the guy who was like championing lockdowns suddenly has reservations, guys.
SPEAKER 19 :
Listen, what do you think you all should have done differently? One for the love of God, figure out a way to get the schools open sooner. Um, we, we got very new knee jerk about this and the, the costs were not just politically, but, but, um, uh, in a profound way, I think for the generation, the costs were profound. And, and, uh, I think anybody who was involved. who was, by the way, obviously doing their best to deal with the crisis that killed a million Americans. Sure. But I think most people involved would like to be able to have found a way to safely get more schools more open, more quickly. Obviously, that was a great first answer. I had no idea. I mean, there's so many ways you could have gone with that.
SPEAKER 22 :
But that is that is a good that's good.
SPEAKER 19 :
um uh obviously pay more attention to the border uh that's real and that's gonna be uh something that you can't just like take your time to to deal with these are all things by the way that is super you know policy-wise and politically we have the benefit of hindsight to quite a lot of this right but Three, even though you spent your entire political lifetime believing that the economy and jobs. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 21 :
Is he still talking? I can't. He's so damn boring. It's killing me. Long story short, they're they're trying to run to the center. Now, here's something else that the left is doing, which I find is actually quite funny. They're. This is Politico. Politico had a piece where they were fantasizing about a Democrat shadow cabinet. I don't know. It's what they were. It was a piece that was in Washington Monthly, and they were suggesting that Democrats should build kind of like this European shadow cabinet of opposition to take the lead in challenging the Trump administration. And they're saying that, like, for instance, he writes the guy who wrote this piece, John Fetterman is a highly controversial figure in the Democrat Party. Full stop. Let me break right here. This is why I say it's a soft shift to the middle and it's optic only because Fetterman literally is kind of a moderate and they hate him for it. So you see what I'm saying? They're not really trying to go to the middle. They're pretending that they're going to the middle. And then they're still excoriating the people who actually are like rarely like two of them in the middle on their side. So anyway, they write in this piece. Oh, his militaristic commentary in defense of Israel's alienated progressives, etc. They his staffers wonder if he's fit to serve. They only started wondering that when he wasn't speaking when he wasn't shilling for Hamas. And but then they go, oh, but his wife, Giselle, has none of the baggage and she's a compelling figure in her own right. She came from Brazil when she was a kid illegally and she married him after he became mayor in Pennsylvania. So there there. I feel like that that's an ignorant dig. And if the left can get those two to divorce and use that some way, they will. That's why I get so aggravated at this stuff because they're like, oh, her social media activities declined. And she her last post on X was in February. And remember the story that I was sharing with you about how they were saying she was trying to. get her husband's staff to help get her out of some of the you know like if she she wanted to be able to say something and separate herself from her husband's you know positions and I think all of that stuff is made up and I just feel like that they are gunning for her but a shadow cat like this is who they have on the left like you have Bill Nye the fake science guys absolutely fake who do you like who do you who do you have I mean, really? Bill Nye? They get mad at Elon Musk and big balls, but they would have literally a fake scientist named Bill. He's not even a real scientist. Seriously? Why don't you get Greta Thunberg there? I mean, good grief. They have about the same resume. But this is who like they suggested that. Literally, a journalist wrote this piece suggesting that Giselle Fetterman, her qualifications for being running Homeland Security are because she was an illegal alien. What? That's what he's suggesting. Cain made the most quizzical face. You okay? I'm good. I don't, dude. It's the left as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends at Kel-Tec, a great Florida-based company. And they do a lot of really good stuff over at Kel-Tec. The PR57 is like butter. It's a rotary barrel pistol. It's chambered in 5.7, 40% lighter than any competition. It's perfect for concealed carry as a 5.7. And it's, you know, they created the concealed carry category in 1995 with the first of its kind. And now they've redefined it. Groundbreaking new pistol chambered in 5.7. It is the latest from George Kellgren, mad scientist. Sets a new standard and lightweight design. It was such a hit at SHOT Show. I had to get one for myself. I love it. It shoots like a dream. It's really like a fun gun to take out of the range. Innovative rotary barrel helps to contribute to make it the lightest 5.7 out there. 40% lighter than the next. It has a unique top-loading design that replaces the traditional magazines with actual stripper clips. for a slimmer carry profile, and you've got a 20-plus-1 capacity. It's inspired by real-world data and defensive needs, built to perform when it matters most. Super easy to field strip, quickest and easiest available. Simple, reliable, perfect everyday carry for everybody. It is the new PR57 Chambered in 5.7 from Kel-Tec. Innovation and made in America. Family-owned values at their best. Labor, parts, everything right here in the U.S. of A. Learn more at keltecweapons.com. K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
So attackers tried to assault a rabbi in Baltimore, Maryland, and steal his car as well. But he was armed and he scared off his attackers and defended himself, defended his life because guns save lives. Officers were called Saturday. They said the men approached the victim, assaulted him, knocked him to the ground. One of the assailants kept assaulting the victim. The other one was trying to get in the car. And that's when the victim drew a gun and pointed it at them. The assailants ran off. He has a valid permit, was treated at the scene. I don't think you need a permit if you have to ask your permission or you're really free. But the Baltimore City Councilman said that I spoke with the victim after the attack. He was an older person. Somebody clearly he was dressed in attire after right after exiting synagogue. And so they said it was very upsetting. Yes, because this keeps happening. This keeps happening over and over again. Walmart was fined for shipping realistic toy guns to New York, violating their stupid state law. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. They said that they can't look they can't sell anything, any toys that look like real weapons, regardless that they have an orange cap on. And they have really weird third laws up there. They said that the retail Giants online store shipped them to the state and that they resemble deadly weapons and they have to pull them off. They don't actually. They're literally, they have orange caps on. They don't look like, oh my gosh. And they said even toy guns, they have to be made either totally translucent, transparent, and have bright colors. Okay, well, I'm just going to make a clear gun. That's what I'm saying. It's so stupid. Oh, my gosh. Let's see this. Ooh. A Port Townsend suspect climbed an 80-foot tree to evade deputies. He stood up there for eight hours. He was up in the tree for eight hours.
SPEAKER 1 :
How do you...
SPEAKER 21 :
Now, hold up. That is actually quite impressive. I got to be honest with you. This guy was wanted on an active escape warrant, and he was taken into custody finally. But he climbed up 80 feet up into a tree. They had an eight-hour-long standoff. And about 9 p.m., they find... Well, it was 9 p.m. when they first located him. He was in there all... He was up that tree all night. Climbed a large cedar tree, trying to avoid arrest. Like the cops were going to go, okay, I guess we better leave. He's up in the tree. Can't get him. We'll go now. Like... They tried to deescalate the situation for a couple of hours. They finally got him down and they took him into custody. But still, good heavens. Open AI software has ignored explicit instruction to shut off. Yeah, it was a model created by the owner of ChatGPT, and apparently it was caught disobeying human instructions, and it would not power itself off. I've got a lot of questions about this. It was an explicit instruction. They said it's OpenAI's O3 model. It sabotaged a shutdown mechanism to prevent itself from being turned off. And it did this even when explicitly instructed, allow yourself to be shut down. I'm telling you, this is how it starts. It's already started. Stick with us. Ground news. is a great aggregate that you can go and you can measure and weigh out different stories and their sourcing and also who funds them. And I think that's incredibly important when you're looking to break free from social media algorithms and media bias. You want to make sure that you can get all the information that you can get and then be able to compare and determine who What is the real story in this? By knowing the background of the entities that are reporting the story to you. And ground news facilitates all of that stuff. You get details about your information sourcing process. the political leanings, the reliability of the reporting, the people that own them. And you can sign up for an account at Ground News today and get access to the mobile app, the website, the browser extension, and the newsletters to have a more in-depth view of the news that you're getting and find some common ground between perspectives. Visit groundnews.com slash Dana and get 40% off of the Ground News Vantage plan. and get access to all of their news and their analysis and their features. That's groundnews.com slash Dana for 40% off the Ground News Vantage plan for a limited time only.
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cocaine at the White House. I thought the Secret Service investigated that. So I don't follow it and understand it. I also don't understand who the audience is for this tweet. The FBI often calls for public assistance or in matters of great public concern will announce an investigation to reassure the public. This seems much more narrowly targeted, maybe to a former podcast audience.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, for the love. He is such a bitter Betty. I don't like men like that. I don't like men that act like chicks that hold grudges like chicks do. I can't stand that. And he's like that, isn't he? I mean, he does. But he's also the same guy who like arranges seashells on the beach. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. That was Comey, James Comey. He doesn't understand why the FBI would investigate cocaine at the White House. Why would they do that? Hmm. I mean, it's a controlled illicit substance, I think, right? And it's in the White House. It's probably why. And you had a super old, barely functioning, questionably sentient dude who was sort of making decisions, but not really. You know what I mean? So I feel like all of that's germane. And I, yeah, I mean, you know, why the hell would FBI be investigating parents who spoke out at school boards, James Comey? Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah, I guess you did sell your book out there. Welcome back. I'm just not a fan of him. I'm really weird about FBI stuff, right? Just because of the stuff that we've seen with some of the decision makers at the top.
SPEAKER 18 :
I remember the first time seeing him on TV and realizing that I would not like this guy. Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
Look, we're not mean. First off, let's just throw all that out the window because I think people don't like being honest about this because they're afraid that other people judge them as being mean or putty. It's not. You get a gut feeling. Women particularly are told to pay attention to our intuition and our gut feelings, right? So and you and dudes get it, too. You're not being petty or mean by making a snap assessment of someone. And like Kane, the first time I saw this dude, his mannerisms, everything. He struck me as being an odd duck, man. He's like a wickedly odd duck.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
And more. I'm like, he's shady. You just know, like you get a gut feeling about people. I come across people like that quite frequently in politics. And you get this feeling and you're like, hmm. Yeah. Yep, I got you packed. You know it. You're not being mean. You're listening to your intuition, your gut instincts.
SPEAKER 18 :
Just being observant.
SPEAKER 21 :
Exactly. There are things that you are observing, I think maybe subconsciously, And your brain is taking inventory of that. And you get that feeling based on something subconsciously that you have not consciously realized yet. That's what I think it is. So it's not petty. It's a survival mechanism. And it's not wrong to say this stuff. I cannot tell you how many times people are like, oh, I didn't want to. I didn't want to say anything. I didn't want to feel that way because it just felt me. No, no, it's not. It's like there's a reason why. That's happening, that you feel that way. So I just wanted to throw that out there, get that out of the way. But yeah, when he's, he, he tries to do this thing where he wants, he, he tries to be smarmy and calm and it doesn't work for him. You know, he's, what's the little thing he said at the end, like podcast audience or whatever. Like that was, that was a insult. He was trying to make a, he was trying to give an insult, give an offense there. It's just petty. Who thinks of this stuff? Who does this stuff? Do you think that if Comey came out and was like, guys, I wrote another stupid book, that people would have been attracted to that news, that it would have made any kind of headlines? Or do you think it made more headlines that he's like, look at these seashells that I just happened to find organically blown by the wind assembled like this on the side of my walking path?
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yep. That's why. He's a sellout. He's a grifter. That's all he is. Yeah. I was hoping that SMOD would come take care of it. But then I had I love how people on Twitter just rain on my parade. I was talking about this New York Post piece. I think Vegas Larry first found it. Three. Listen to this headline. Boy, they're offering up a lot on this platter. Three city killing asteroids could strike Earth within weeks. I was like, yes. What? Tell me more. I hope Jesus is writing one of them. calling you home. Venus, they said, was concealing at least three of them that could strike Earth in weeks without warning. 20 co-orbital asteroids of Venus are currently known. It was published in Astronomy and Astrophysics, a journal. And it's an international research team. They named them. You don't need another name. They're all numbers. And they circled the sun in tandem with our twin planet. They have unstable orbits that take them at times dangerously close to Earth. They said the shaky trajectory, if it's shifted only slightly by a small gravitational change or other force, they potentially could be set on a collision course with Earth. And I'm very excited about this. But then I've got people like this dude who are like, not even maybe Earth. the chance of any of them, or NASA has the chances of them striking Earth at zero. The New York Post is doing terror journalism to get clicks, but I wanted to read that terror journalism. What if it came true?
SPEAKER 18 :
Is the chance ever zero, though, honestly?
SPEAKER 21 :
Is it? I feel like you're saying there's still a chance.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I think there would be. It can't be zero, right?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. I mean, that makes me sad, because I was really highly anticipating. Is there a way to nudge it to where it hits certain parts of the planet? Could it be specifically nudged to be highly targeted? I'm not saying I want to hurt anyone. I just don't want it near me, so I'm going to bump it somewhere else, like specifically targeted.
SPEAKER 18 :
I have a feeling if that was possible, government would have already been doing it.
SPEAKER 21 :
True. I mean, they did send Bruce Willis up there. you know, and Ben Affleck. I don't know. I'm just, but they said it could generate a million times more energy than Hiroshima. So, I don't know. I mean, you know, boo. But yeah, I'm getting, my parade totally rained on. Okay, I gotta share this with you. So, a lip reader, you guys have been wanting to know about this. A lip reader read the lips of Macron and his wife. Oh, boy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Oh, you know, I'm not done with this story. So the shocking footage showed Brigitte Macron placing both of her hands on her husband's face and shoving him firmly. Now, the apparently the lip reader says that they look like they were squabbling and it was a professional lip reader. And I'm putting all the science. There's more science involved in this than anything with COVID. So this is real. They said that as the aircraft were open, Macron was seen turning towards Brigitte Macron. And that's when she pushed him in the face. This was first in the express. And then the door noticed, the door opened and McCrone noticed that the cameras were on him. And he said, hi, before raising his hand like all awkward. And he did. He was like, hi, like an alien. So they said that it was, you could tell that it was a super tense conversation. moment. And there were multiple professional lip readers that they hired. And they said that the he appears uncomfortable. He quickly raises his hand with a forced high. One of the lip readers said that she called him a loser. At the top of the stairs, they said things turn icy again. He offers his arm. She ignores it. They also had a body language expert. She ignores it and she chose instead to cling to the railing. As she passes, they said that she appears to mutter, saying, stay away, you loser. And then moments later, he says, a séance, s'il te plaît, which translates, let's try, please. And he used the informal te instead of vous. And she replied, no. And then he read, je vois, which says, I see, says it all. And then, so they were icy. Like she called him, they said that she appeared to call him a loser and refused his arm. They did look stiff coming down those stairs in later footage. What, Kane?
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm just saying it doesn't look like that was just being playful. Remember, that was the thing that came out. She was like, oh, we were just being playful with each other.
SPEAKER 21 :
Who does that? And you either. Who does that? Ignorant. So what? OK, what did they fight about? She he clearly. Was. The unempowered one in that situation. I'm just saying, I think she's kind of a predator. She was in her 40s, and he was 15, and they apparently had an affair in school, and it caused his parents to send him to a boarding school, and then years later, they hook up. It's weird, dude. No, you did not just put that in Slack.
SPEAKER 18 :
Don't read that.
SPEAKER 21 :
Why did you put it in Slack?
SPEAKER 18 :
It's not for air.
SPEAKER 21 :
So Kane's over there like, types a little quip into Slack and I'm not supposed to repeat it?
SPEAKER 18 :
It's not for air. You know the rules, Kane. I would have said it in the story. What are the rules, Kane? No, that rule has, you can bend it a little bit. You can. You can. You should. I'm just saying. You should.
SPEAKER 21 :
I'm just saying. Don't put anything in there if you don't want to share it with the class. You know, we're all here for, you know, we're all hanging out. All right. So WNBA, they're having troubles with tickets now because I think Caitlin Clark is out for what? How many weeks is she out? She's got... She's ruled out for the June 7th game. That's when she was supposed to meet up with Angel Reese again. And Chicago Sky. And there's a massive drop in ticket sales. She... This is after the take foul that she had on Reese and ended with a shove. And she got a flagrant foul. And they gave... They gave what? Reese and the other chick a foul. And I don't know. Like they... I guess she has a left quad strain. And she's going to miss...
SPEAKER 18 :
At least four games is what they're saying.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, okay. And the fourth and final of those games is the game against Sky. And so they said after her injury was announced, so check this out. The game on June 7th, the tickets were originally $86. Same seats, now $25. After her injury announcement. That's a 71% drop in price. Over 71% drop in price. Because she's not going to be in the game. And it's the largest arena in terms of capacity in the NBA. This is where the Bulls play. So they're at the United Center, and that's where Bulls play. And so, wow, can you imagine? And the Sky's home games, they usually do them at Wintrust Arena, and that seats 10,387. The United Center seats 23,500. Oof. And they announced the venue change back in March because of Clark's popularity. And now she's not going to be there. And the tickets have been slashed. Kane, that that center is going to be empty. But, you know, racism or something. I don't know. Like, I why are they trying to infuse that? Well, look, Brittany Griner, who I can't stand. And I'm sad that she's a Baylor grad. She didn't. Wasn't she on the sidelines? And didn't she? Wasn't she trash talking? Caitlin Clark is like a dumb white girl. Well, I mean, that was the lip reading. Audio Summit 16. She called her a trash, expletive white girl. Well, you can watch it and watch her own mouth. She's sitting on the sidelines and she's just running her mouth. She's trash, blanking white girl is what she says.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, let's see this here.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, it's trash, white girl. Trash. Blanking white girl is what she says. Yeah, she said that. Hey, why don't you go try to do some more pot over in Russia and then we have to get your dumb ass by trading a weapons, a warlord, a weapons merchant in exchange. Just absolute trash. It's a shame that she's a Baylor grad. So. I don't know why they're trying to make it. Well, I mean, apparently Griner and others seem like they're trying to make it about racism. Can you imagine if like Caitlin Cork was like, oh, trash blinking black girl. Can you imagine? Oh my gosh. Dude, I hate that the left and that race hustlers do this because they think that there's a scarcity of opportunity. I really want Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark to be friends. I would love it. And I'm normally not like this, but I would love it if years from now, they're like, actually, we were BFFs the whole time and we just had this whole rivalry thing. But I feel like Even if it kind of maybe even began that way, I still think they're super highly competitive women. But everybody else on the periphery is trying to make it real nasty. Don't you feel like the push is almost coming more from the periphery than like the two principles in the middle of it? It seems like that. But a lot of these people are mad. A lot of these players were mad at Caitlin Clark because she's white and she's good. Like, why can't you just be happy that, you know, a rising tide raises all ships? My gosh, no one's asking you to do anything more. You have the opportunity to get paid more. just by being adjacent to that, you know, to her star power and skill. Good heavens. Like, I can't play basketball to save my life. Love the game. But, I mean, can you imagine? Heck, yeah, I'd sit on the bench with Jordan, and I would just, like, rake in the money, let him play, and I'd say, heck, yes, I would. I mean, come on. But I really, I want them to be friends. I really want them to be friends. And I'm normally not like this. Normally I'm like, fight, fight, fight. but I think I'm just so tired of hearing everyone on the outside. Like, wasn't there an ESPN, uh, commentator who like she was, wasn't she trying to argue that there were like racist things being said by the fans. And then the WNBA legit did a whole investigation into it. And they're like, this is totally unfounded. Like how embarrassing if you're a commentator and you were sitting and you were stating that and WNBA had released a statement yesterday saying that, uh, Yeah, they've they investigated, you know, all the claims and there's literally nothing that happened. They're like, it's it's unfounded. You know, that's it. They said based on all the information that it is not substantiated. How isn't that shameful? Good grief. As we move our partners at home title lock, they want to make sure that your title is protected because I don't know if you've seen it, but AI, the cyber world, I mean, you can't even trust your Roomba. It'll kill you in your sleep. Literally, there's a video of one eating a woman's hair, but I digress. AI, cyber, everything makes it easier to scam people. Criminals can forge your signature on a document. Use a fake notary stamp. You can get it on Amazon. Pay a small fee and then boom, your title is not in your name any longer. It's transferred over to some sketchy criminal's name. And the problem is, well, the problem is you don't notice it until it's too late, not until the collection calls start. Or maybe you even get a foreclosure notice. This has happened. It's happened a lot. And the frequency with which it is occurring is increasing. And the damage, oh my gosh, you can imagine. This is your most valuable asset. And then on top of it, you're going to have to hire a lawyer, thousands of dollars, litigate thousands of dollars just to get back what's rightfully yours. This is why you need Home Title Lock. You can get a free title history report and a 14-day trial of their million-dollar triple lock protection. Use promo code Dana at HomeTitleLock.com. And what that is, it's a 14-day trial that is 24-7 monitoring of your title and urgent alerts to any changes, and should fraud happen, they're going to spend up to a million dollars to fix it. Visit HomeTitleLock.com today and use promo code Dana.
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SPEAKER 21 :
So Lorraine just rained all over my parade about Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark ever being friends. She's like, no, Angel Reese is super jealous of Caitlin Clark. She has main character syndrome, which I actually love. I'm sad. Okay, I guess I can go back to being mean. I tried, you guys. I tried really hard.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's always nice to have hope.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, between having my asteroid hitting this rock, you know, having that rained on, now this. Sad face. I'll be on Jesse Waters' program tonight and Fox Business tonight. So a busy, busy long night. So I'll have details up on Facebook and X. In the meantime, today in Stupidity King.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right. It is Peter Booty Juice. This is Cut 7, Juan. And hey, the way to engage male voters in the Democrat Party is apparently gay marriage and porn. That's weird. Listen to this.
SPEAKER 19 :
Of course we should be talking about how, yeah, if Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible, not just for gay people to get married, but for straight people to get divorced, along with birth control or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever most people would have a problem with.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, that's enough out of him. So yeah, that's what it is. Republicans bad because whatever.
SPEAKER 21 :
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The episode further explores the increasing influence of Qatar in the US and its implications for national security, alongside a call to action for state and federal lawmakers through the National Association of Christian Lawmakers Conference. Discover the latest on state-led changes to education policies supporting the Ten Commandments in classrooms, reflecting a nationwide shift back to traditional values. Join us in understanding how these developments interplay with broader efforts for cultural renewal and how you can be a part of this transformation.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Did you warn Prime Minister Netanyahu against taking some sort of actions that could disrupt the talks there? in a phone call last week?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I'd like to be honest. Yes, I did. It's not a warning. I said, I don't think it's appropriate.
SPEAKER 14 :
What exactly did you tell him?
SPEAKER 04 :
I just said, I don't think it's appropriate. We're having very good discussions with him. And I said, I don't think it's appropriate right now.
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That was President Donald Trump earlier today confirming he advised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to delay a strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. Welcome to this May 28th edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Well, coming up, we'll unpack the president's remarks on Iran with Greg Roman, executive director of the Middle East Forum. And religious freedom is becoming a flashpoint in Seattle. FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino has asked for an investigation into violence aimed at last weekend's Don't Mess With Our Kids rally. Seattle's mayor blamed the violence on the fact that the Christians organized a rally in Seattle. Congressman Mark Harris, a member of the House Judiciary Committee, will join us to discuss the DOJ's apparent pivot from prosecuting believers to actually protecting their rights. And a pro-life win in Missouri. The state Supreme Court ruled that last year's abortion industry amendment is not a blank check for abortionists. State Attorney General Andrew Bailey, who argued and won the case, will bring the details. Also, former Arkansas State Senator Jason Raper, the president of the National Association of Christian Lawmakers, stops by to preview their upcoming convention and how you can get involved. And if you're looking for a summer family activity, I've got one for you. Join FRC's 21-day Family Bible Challenge through the Gospel of Matthew beginning June the 11th. It's a part of our Stand on the Word program. reading plan. We have reading plans for the 21 days, a study guide, discussion questions, kid-friendly activities. And you can read the Bible in less than 30 minutes. It takes you maybe 30 minutes to watch a sitcom. You can do it in even less time. So start the summer right, spending time with the Son. Text MATTHEW to 67742. That's MATTHEW to 67742 to be a part of the challenge. Well, before we bring in Congressman Mark Harris, I want to go to Joshua Arnold, senior writer for The Washington Stand. Joshua has been tracking the events in Seattle. Joshua, thanks for joining us. Now, there was another rally and another confrontation yesterday in Seattle in response to what happened over the weekend, as I understand it, kind of in response to the mayor blaming the Christians for being the catalyst for the violence. Bring us up to date.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's right. On Saturday, they were dueling a rally and a counter-protest, hundreds on either side. Twenty-three members of the counter-protest were arrested for violence against police officers, and that continued on Tuesday. There was a protest outside the city hall based on the mayor's blatant siding with the LGBT activists who confronted cops. And that happened again. Eight more people were arrested for assault on cops. The mayor had blamed the Christians, saying that they provoked the confrontation by holding their rally at this LGBT-themed park in this LGBT-themed neighborhood, which The fact that something like that exists is kind of appalling in itself. But it's actually the city's fault. They initially requested a permit for somewhere else, which the city denied, which forced them to move to this location. So the city's hostility against this Christian group that wants to protect their kids began even before Saturday's rally.
SPEAKER 09 :
Joshua, a final question for you, just to gain clarity here. The confrontation with the police, this was not the Christians who held the rally. These were the counter-protesters, am I correct?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, this was confrontations between the counter-protesters that were supporting the LGBT agenda. They confronted police. There were lots of police presence at both events. The police kept the two sides separate. They said, you can both have your protests. You just have to stay apart. And still there was violence because the pro LGBT crowd was trying to push or attack or throw things at police officers.
SPEAKER 09 :
Joshua, has the mayor backed off of his anti-Christian comments at all?
SPEAKER 20 :
I have seen nothing from the mayor about this. He is running for reelection in the fall, and his opponent is actually attacking him for not supporting the LGBT community enough. So he's taking political heat in Seattle from the other side, which just shows you how far this city has gone to the left.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow, amazing. Joshua Arnold, thanks so much for joining us. And folks, by the way, you can keep up with us through the Washington Stand, which is the FRC news feed, news and commentary from a biblical perspective. You can find it all at the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store and download the Stand Firm app. Well, as I mentioned, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino announced yesterday that the FBI is investigating this targeted violence against religious groups in Seattle. This is a big change. What we're seeing here is under the Biden administration, People of faith were being prosecuted. Now their rights are being protected. This is a shift, and it's coming from the Department of Justice. Here to talk about this is Congressman Mark Harris of North Carolina. He serves on three House committees, including the Judiciary Committee, where this has been a topic of focus. Congressman Harris, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Tony, thank you. It's great to be with you this afternoon.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, this is a sea change we're talking about where we have the Department of Justice no longer prosecuting Christians, but actually protecting their rights.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, actually, you're correct. And I think it should be a sigh of relief among believers across this country that justice is returning. to the United States. Listen, this was a mess. I mean, when you have parents that are simply willing to stand up, holding a rally to say, don't mess with our kids, people have had enough. But then, thank God, the police were there protecting them in the midst of this rally so that when the other side shows up and turns it completely violent, 23 people were arrested from what I understand. And yet I'm so grateful that you've got a Justice Department and an FBI deputy director and Don Bongino, Dan Bongino, who is saying we are going to investigate this activity that is really targeting and becoming an anti-Christian movement.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we also, and your committee has been a part of this, the FBI also announcing that it's reopening some investigations from the Biden era, including cocaine in the White House that was found, the Dobbs decision leak. What does this tell us about the Trump Department of Justice as they're reopening these cases? What might they find?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think as they get into it, they're going to let the facts lead the investigation. All too often, it seemed like their Justice Department had become nothing more than just an institution involved in lawfare. Now you have an institution where the Justice Department is going to truly investigate things that need to be investigated and let the facts lead that investigation, not just targeting one particular side or the other. And I think these are important things, looking at just even the pipe bomb that was placed on January 5th of 2021, and outside the DNC and RNC, as well as the other two that you mentioned with the cocaine found there in the White House. All of these are things that Americans would like to to get to the bottom of it and let's get some answers. And that's what this Justice Department seems to be focused on.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, this is different than the first Trump administration that just kind of moved on, didn't look back. You know, you had Hillary Clinton and her bathroom server. You know, people were saying, hey, why doesn't the Trump administration investigate that? They just kind of moved on. They're not doing that this time. They're going back to see where the law was violated and if prosecution is appropriate. What role is Congress? You serve on the Judiciary Committee. You have oversight of the Department of Justice. What role is Congress playing in this?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think we're going to be following these things that the FBI is announcing, that the Justice Department is announcing, things that they're going to be looking into. And I would expect that we'll be hearing about some hearings that our Judiciary Committee will be holding, bringing some people in, asking some questions. One of the things that we said early on that we wanted to do with the new administration was allow some of these new cabinet members, once they've gotten into place, to be able to come and let us know what they have found. And I think that that's going to be important as these days go on for us to begin to really just uncover what's been going on in that previous administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mark, you also serve on the Education Committee, and a lot of stuff happening at the state level when it comes to education. Just yesterday, Texas becoming the second or third state. I think Arkansas also has passed a provision that allows for the Ten Commandments to be posted in the classrooms. While there's a lot of focus at the national level, we're seeing some, I think, very significant changes that are taking place and being advanced at the state level.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think that's important, Tony. And I think this White House and I think this Congress really and truly are on the same page in wanting to allow our states to continue to be empowered, to do what they are led to do. And I think that what we're going to be doing at the federal level is continuing to give them that ability. And I think that we're going to stand strong behind it. And so I think it's, as you said, even when we started in this particular segment, that there is a sea change that's taking place in Washington. And that's another great example, empowering the states to be able to do what they need to do.
SPEAKER 09 :
And while we celebrate the policies that are coming out of Washington, of course, many of them executive orders, although hopeful that we're going to see many of them codified in the one big, beautiful bill, because that rolls in a lot. But what we're seeing at the state level, and I just hope people grab this. We're going to talk about this a little bit later when we have Jason Rayford on. But the change at the state level, it's more of a coming to fruition of what's been happening at the states for many, many years. And it runs much deeper and less likely to change in four years as opposed to what we see at the federal level.
SPEAKER 11 :
Agreed. Because what you have happening at the state level, We really believe that government that is closest to home is the most effective government. And I think that when people are having their state legislators that they live next door to, that they interact with at church, at the grocery store, at the gas station, wherever life leads them, I believe you're going to have leaders there that are stepping up to the plate. They're seeing the change that is happening. And instead of having the federal government step in and put a thumb on them, we're going to allow these states to continue to function and continue to work effectively.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Congressman Mark Harris, final question for you. Uh, you have been a pastor for almost three decades, uh, still serve as a pastor. What's more challenging working with Congress or a business meeting at church?
SPEAKER 11 :
Boy, that's a hard question to answer. I, I think in both cases, you're still herding cats. And, uh, No doubt that it's a challenge in Congress, but I find both of them to be very fulfilling in the work that I'm blessed to be a part of.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we're proud of you and grateful for you being there in Congress and the work that you've done for many years and the Lord's hands clearly upon you. Thanks so much for joining us today, Mark. Thank you for all you do, Tony. Keep it up. All right. Congressman Mark Harris of North Carolina. For those that don't know, Mark used to work at the Family Research Council. He was a vice president for our church ministries. And we actually came into the political arena through one of our pastors conferences, our Watchman on the Wall Pastors Conference. That's what kind of got him on this journey many years ago. Now he's serving in Congress, doing a great job there. All right. Still more Washington Watch to come. We're going to shift a little bit to the states. We're going to be talking to the attorney general of the state of Missouri. A big court decision yesterday out of the state Supreme Court that says the abortion industry doesn't have a blank check after the amendment, state amendment passed last year about abortion. All right. Don't go away. More Washington Watch straight ahead. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, and we're here in Jerusalem, the city of King David. And I'm excited to announce the launch of our Family Bible Challenge to read through the Gospel of Matthew. Now, this 21-day challenge begins on June the 11th, and it's a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. It's in bite-sized readings. It takes about 10 to 15 minutes a day, and we provide a toolbox full of resources to help you along the journey, including a study guide titled, Matthew, the King and His Kingdom. We also provide downloadable resources such as age appropriate questions to engage children. And we have a variety of family friendly projects as well as this, listen, a coloring book, coloring pages about the life of Jesus for the younger kids and your grandkids. Think about it. What could be a better summer activity than to go on a journey through the life of Jesus as a family? Just think what God could do in the lives of your loved ones as they read Matthew. Unforgettable stories about the greater son of David, Jesus the Messiah. I hope you'll join us for our family Bible challenge beginning June the 11th. Text the word Matthew to 67742. I hope you'll join us. Thank you.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us on this Wednesday. All right. Yesterday, the Missouri Supreme Court issued a crucial, albeit temporary, win for the rule of law for women's health and the unborn. Now, after the state's Amendment 3 created a so-called constitutional right to abortion last November, you remember we talked about it. We were up there in Missouri. trying to keep that from happening. Well, it happened. And it was, of course, funded by the abortion industry. Well, Planned Parenthood and their cohorts filed a lawsuit to enjoin Missouri's restrictions and regulations on abortion. Basically, they wanted a blank check. They didn't want any oversight. They wanted to be able to do whatever they wanted to do. Well, a circuit court injunction earlier this year blocked enforcement of key health and safety regulations at these abortion facilities. All right. This is something we've talked about before, like abortion clinic regulation acts. I authored one of the first many years ago when I was in the Louisiana legislature. Well, the Missouri government, led by Attorney General Andrew Bailey, pushed back, saying, wait a minute, no, no, no, we have a right to protect our citizens. And so they pursued this all the way up to the state Supreme Court, and they gained a victory yesterday. Here to discuss this, Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey. He joins us by phone. He's on the road in the state of Missouri. General Bailey, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, Tony, thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, did I lay out the background there good enough?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, absolutely. Look, at the end of the day, I'm never going to stop fighting to protect life and to protect the health and safety of women. And Planned Parenthood at this point is starting to look more like a criminal enterprise than any kind of legitimate health care entity. Let's put this in context. We said all along that Amendment 3 was bad because it was not only going to result in the death of innocent children— but potentially harm to women as well. And as soon as Amendment 3 passed, Planned Parenthood marched to court and said that there shouldn't have to be ultrasounds anymore, that the abortion providers shouldn't have to have complication plans. In other words, they didn't have to have any plan to prevent hemorrhaging or sepsis of their quote-unquote patients, that their facilities didn't have to be licensed, that they didn't need to sterilize their equipment, and that they didn't have to get informed consent voluntarily from the women before they performed these abortions. These are pernicious and dangerous positions that Planned Parenthood has taken in court, and they convinced the judge in Kansas City that they were correct, that Amendment 3 wiped all of that out. I'm proud to say that yesterday we got that action reversed by the Missouri Supreme Court. Now, it might be a temporary win, but we're going to take a moment to celebrate because this effectively shuts down the abortion clinics in the state of Missouri for the time being.
SPEAKER 09 :
But it's also encouraging from a standpoint of as this plays out, if the court, if the Supreme Court there in the state of Missouri felt like Amendment 3 eliminated all right of the state to oversee the abortion industry, they wouldn't have ruled as they did yesterday.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think you're right. I mean, one of the elements in analyzing whether or not a preliminary injunction is appropriate is the plaintiff's likelihood of success on the marriage. And what the Supreme Court said was that the lower court did not apply that proper standard. The lower court said, well, any likelihood, any chance of success on the marriage is sufficient. And that is not legally accurate. So the Supreme Court said, go back, use a sharper pencil. I think that at the end of the day, I like your analysis about the rule of law because I said all along the Supreme Court of Missouri interprets statutes by giving the words they're plain and ordinary meaning. But Amendment 3 was especially dangerous because when it comes to initiative petitions, adopted by the people, the court applies a broader interpretive methodology and gives the words their full possible, endlessly possible meaning. And so that's why the drafters of Amendment 3 specifically chose vague and ambiguous language so they could trot out this parade of horribles post-passage of Amendment 3 to undermine the state's ability to guarantee health and safety for women.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what's the next step here in this legal fight?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we're back at the trial court level in Jackson County. That's Kansas City, Missouri, and we're fighting. The Planned Parenthood has already said they're going to file a new motion for preliminary injunction, and they anticipate being able to obtain that injunction. We're going to fight them. I mean, at the end of the day, the Supreme Court has said you've got to apply the right legal standard. I think that's a higher burden for the plaintiffs to meet, so we're going to get another round at this, and look, In the interim, the other thing that has happened since the passage of Amendment 3 to now is that our General Assembly passed what's called Senate Bill 22 that gives the state, the Attorney General, the ability to appeal from the grant of a preliminary injunction. This is the first time in state history we've had that authority. We have it at the federal level. We don't have it at the state level. And so even if Planned Parenthood is able to convince this judge a second time that doctors at abortion clinics don't have to sterilize instruments or be licensed or that the facilities don't have to have complication plans to prevent against emerging and sepsis of women. Even if they're able to convince the trial court judge of that, again, we will appeal to the Missouri Supreme Court. We now have that legal authority because of the passage of Senate Bill 22.
SPEAKER 09 :
And General Bailey, you touched on this, but we talked about this extensively back when this amendment was being considered by voters. The way it was worded was going to allow the courts to define much of that, what that amendment meant and how it would be applied. That's why this legal battle right out of the chute is so important, because this will establish precedent, will it not?
SPEAKER 07 :
It will, Tony, but there's another factor at play here, and that's the fact that our General Assembly members passed a joint resolution to put a repeal and replacement of Amendment 3 back on the ballot in front of the people. And so this court case is exhibit A as to why Amendment 3 is bad. The current status quo is bad and dangerous. And so the harder Planned Parenthood leans into this, the stronger our case goes to take to the people of the state. to repeal and replace Amendment 3 and restore the respect for life in the state of Missouri and the protection for women's health care.
SPEAKER 09 :
So when will that be on the ballot?
SPEAKER 07 :
We're waiting to hear the default date would be in 2026. The governor has the ability to issue a writ of election to move that date. And I believe he addressed that at a press conference now that he's analyzing when he feels that that vote might be most suitable to take place. But I'll tell you, between then and now, I will not stop fighting to prevent the criminal enterprise of Planned Parenthood from killing babies and harming women in the state of Missouri. And this court case is going to be front and center, front lines in that fight.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because in this process, you'll be able to bring out more evidence of what Planned Parenthood has been involved in. So, I mean, that's going to be out there for the public to see, will it not?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. And we intend to put all of that evidence in front of the public. Again, the people of the state of Missouri were defrauded by the purveyors of Amendment 3. They sold people on this idea that you have a constitutional right to kill innocent children. and that there should be no limitations on it. What they didn't explain is that it would eliminate all health and safety regulations in the state of Missouri. So, again, that's why this court case becomes the front line, and this fight is going to be really imperative for us to keep our foot on the gas pedal over the next 6, 12, 18 months.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, General Bailey, thanks for fighting the good fight, and we hope you keep us posted. All right, folks, don't go away. We're back with more Washington Watch on the other side of this break.
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This is Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in and making us part of your day. If you've not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, let me encourage you, get the Stand Firm app. There's so much there. Not only can you have access to Washington Watch, you'll have access to our news and commentary from a biblical perspective, the Washington Stand, and you can start every day with my devotional, Stand on the Word. Plus, we have lots of special videos features on there from time to time as well. So anyway, get the Stand Firm app. If you don't know how to get to the App Store, just text APP to 67742. That's APP to 67742, and I'll send you a link. All right, I touched on this yesterday in my conversation with the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, Dan Patrick. And while there are Great things happening at the federal level. I'm encouraged by what has been happening under this administration. But I'm also, in fact, I'm probably more encouraged by what has been happening and continues to happen at the state level in many states. And we were talking about this just a few moments ago with Congressman Mark Harris. What is happening at the national level is good. It's encouraging. But I'm very concerned what could happen three years from now. But what's happening at the states has been happening for—it's been really kind of a season of sowing for many years, and now it's coming to fruition. You know, Christians are not just a blip on the political radar screen. They've become giants. a shaping influence in state legislatures across the country. And the National Association of Christian Lawmakers is actually out there helping those Christian lawmakers cross-pollinate ideas and have kind of a band of brothers, if you will, to stand together and to encourage one another as they contend for the faith in the political arena. And here to share more about this is the founder and president of the National Association of Christian Lawmakers, a good friend, Jason Raybert. He's also the founder of Holy Ghost Ministries, the American History and Heritage Foundation. Jason, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's great to be with you, Tony. And I just want to say thank you for all that you do and all that FRC does. And thanks for serving on our advisory board at NACL.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, glad to do it because, as I told you a number of years ago when you started, it was something that was needed because we need a place. Many of those other state legislative groups have kind of backed away from dealing with the heart and soul issues, the moral issues. I mean, America can't be great until it's good, and we've got to address those issues. You're doing that. In fact, you've got a conference coming up, and that's going to be a big part of the focus. Tell us about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we're excited about it. In fact, people that would like to learn more about it and still have some time to register can come, can go to christianlawmakers.com. There's an events tab there. They just press that events tab and it'll take them to the registration. This is actually the ninth national in-person conference that the NACL has had since we formed in August of 2020. And so we unite local, state, and federal elected officials together who are interested in being salt and light in their communities and in policy and in government in the United States of America. It's been a wonderful thing to see develop over the last few years, Tony. And so this will be our 2025 National Policy Conference. It is at Liberty University. I want to say thank you so much to Liberty for giving us a home for this policy conference the last three years. And so currently, we literally have people coming in from all over the country. The last time I looked at the registration, we had folks registered from nearly 30 states now. We also have some foreign dignitaries from the state of Israel, as well as the Netherlands and Romania. Believe it or not, Tony, people are reaching out to the NACL and saying, will you help us form an NACL entity in our own country? And so these people are coming as well. And the entity will be meeting. We're going to be honoring some people. There will be some great speakers like Todd Starnes, John Solomon of Just the News, And we'll have Lieutenant Governor Micah Beckwith of Indiana will be there. That's a pastor that became a politician and now a leader in government. And we'll also have Senator Brian Birdwell of Texas. Fantastic story and testimony of a man that survived the 9-11 attack. at the Pentagon, where he was burned terribly, and then went on to serve the state of Texas. And of course, U.S. Senator Tom Cotton will be honored on Friday. He'll be presented the American Patriot Award for Christian Honor and Courage, and then Bishop E.W. Jackson will get a lifetime award. Now, on the policy that you're talking about there, Tony, there's going to be a meeting of the different committees. And as you mentioned, the NACL is the only faith-based that arena know about ALEC, NCSL, CSG, NCOOL, and others. But the NACL actually allows our members to talk about issues in the country and do it from a biblical worldview. So they're going to be talking about a lot of policies that we've seen successfully passed that the NACL had modeled legislation on. We'll be talking about Ten Commandments posters, even Ten Commandments monuments. I'm happy to report you may be the first show I've got to say this on, but we're currently helping. Tarrant County, Texas has voted to put up a brand new Ten Commandments monument, and we're helping through the American History and Heritage Foundation to put up that monument. And then we have people wanting to help these states that have approved posters. You know, it's your home state of Louisiana that led in that, Tony, with Representative Dodie Horton. It's actually one of our vice chairs for the state of Louisiana. We'll also be talking about religious release time education. Very important concept. LifeWise Academy will be there talking about that. We will have an abortion panel talking about all the abortion amendments, just like you're talking about in Missouri. And there is a plethora, if you will. I literally cannot name them all on your show. But one of the most important things, too, is that we will have Sasan Hassan, who is the Minister of Public Diplomacy from the Embassy of Israel, to talk about the horrible event. It was her staff member that got murdered the other day. So we hope people will come, be a part of this. It's a great opportunity to network and engage with leaders.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we'll certainly encourage people to do that. Folks, check out the website. Don't go away. We're back after this.
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How should Christians think about the thorny issues shaping our culture? How should Christians address deceitful ideas like transgenderism, critical theory, or assisted suicide? How can Christians navigate raising children in a broken culture, the war on gender roles, or rebuilding our once great nation? Outstanding is a podcast from The Washington Stand dedicated to these critical conversations. Outstanding seeks to tear down what our corrupt culture lifts up with an aim to take every thought and every idea captive to the obedience of Christ. Whether policies or partisan politics, whether conflict in America or conflict abroad, join us and our guests as we examine the headlines through the lens of Scripture and explore how Christians can faithfully exalt Christ in all of life. Follow Outstanding on your favorite podcast app and look for new episodes each week.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Have I mentioned to you the 21 Day Bible Challenge that we're doing? I think I have. Let me just encourage you, if you're even thinking about it, to go ahead and take the challenge and join us. If I had time, in fact, maybe I'll do this at some point, I could spend the entire program just kind of reading the emails, the cards, the letters that people have sent in over the years that have done the two-year Bible journey, how it's transformed relationships, how it's impacted family dynamics, even marriages, healed marriages, and children. I've gotten cards from children saying, wow, this has done so much for my family that we come together and we read the Bible together. So we're doing this 21-day challenge just to kind of introduce people to it. It's just 21 days. You can do anything for 21 days. You can almost hold your breath that long. So why not take the challenge? Invite your children, your grandchildren. Maybe they're grown. That's fine. Do it as a family, an extended family. Here's what you need to do. Just text the word Matthew to 67742, and I'll send you a link. That's Matthew to 67742. It begins June the 11th, so go ahead and text it now. Well, speaking of the word, today's word comes from Ezra 10. Israel has confessed the sin of intermarriage that blurred their witness among the nations. In the crisis, the people say this. Let us make a covenant with our God to send away these wives and children, and let it be done according to the law. Arise, for this matter is your responsibility. Be strong and act. Well, notice where the eyes turn when they say it's your responsibility. They don't appeal to Artaxerxes for a royal decree. They look to Ezra, the priest, to lead in repentance and reformation. Political structures remain untouched, but the hearts are being reshaped by the word that he had been teaching. You know, we often assume transformation must start with the government. Scripture flips the sequence. When the people of God allow Scripture to confront their compromise, guess what? Public life eventually follows. Revival is seeded, not legislated. So the church's prophetic task is plain. Keep declaring God's standards, even when they expose our own failings. and model quick obedience. When pulpits are faithful and homes respond, nations feel the ripple. True reform still begins as it did in Ezra's day, with open Bibles and humbled hearts. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. Earlier today, President Trump, responding to a reporter's question, said he had asked Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu not to strike Iran's nuclear facilities. Now, this revelation is pretty significant. What impact might it have on the negotiations between the U.S. in Iran and the balance of power in the Middle East? Here to discuss this, Greg Roman, the executive director of the Middle East Forum, a think tank which focuses on protecting American interest and values in the Middle East. He previously served as the political advisor to the deputy foreign minister of Israel and worked for the Israeli Ministry of Defense. Greg, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 22 :
Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 09 :
So let me just ask you, the acknowledgement that the president asked Benjamin Netanyahu not to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, what does that say?
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, I think that he's still trying to give the Iranians time to have a deal. But you need to be able to look at the exact words that he said between his acknowledgement he asked Bibi to delay any strike and what he said at the end. He gives six conditions. One is full inspections. Two is the ability to destroy Iranian nuclear infrastructure. Three, is getting rid of enrichment capabilities. Four, he does not trust the Iranians, but he has to verify all the instances. Five, anything could change within a day with one phone call. And six, that he's not asking or ordering the prime minister of Israel to not strike Iran. He's engaging in honest dialogue with him. So with these six things, maybe there's a delay here, but I still have the opinion, as I wrote in a few pieces over the last few weeks, that Iran is not going to stop their march towards a nuclear weapon. And unfortunately, I think that in the end they're going to try to hoodwink the president, but the president in and of itself will not allow the Iranians to dupe him into signing a deal which will not be under those conditions.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, the president has repeatedly laid out that criteria that you put forth. My sense is and in my conversations with those in Israel that they're getting a little antsy, that they realize the window that was open because in part because of their Their actions they took earlier in the year against Iran, weakening their air defense systems, that window's there for now, but it won't be there for long until they're able to either – move forward with their nuclear plan or protect it?
SPEAKER 22 :
Is that an accurate read? It's accurate, and there's also some disturbing news coming out of a report from Middle East Forum fellow Ben Weinthal that was just published about an hour ago before this broadcast began, which is that Austrian intelligence and its Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, the equivalent of the American FBI, released a report on Monday evening to the Austrian parliament quoting that the Iranian intelligence forces, in order to assert and enforce its regional political power and ambitions, are striving for comprehensive rearmament, this is the key part, with nuclear weapons to make the regime immune to attack and to expand and consolidate its dominance in the Middle East and beyond. This is not an American intelligence saying. This is a European intelligence agency, which backs other reports which came out from the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency last week, which said, quote, Iran is almost certainly not producing nuclear weapons, but Iran has undertaken activities in recent years that better position them to produce them. These actions reduce the time required to produce a weapon to one week. So if this is what the Austrians are saying, if this is what the DIA is saying, you can imagine the superior capabilities of Israeli intelligence and what they're seeing, which is probably a transparent effort within Iranian nuclear circles to go forward and develop the bomb.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so that's why we see Israel wanting to move now rather than later.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right. And I think that the visit by Mossad head David Barnea and also Israeli minister of strategic affairs Ron Dermer to Washington, D.C. this week is to convey Israeli intelligence findings and the necessity to explain to American officials that the window is closing. And just like the Israelis acted in 1981 on the Iraqi nuclear project and in 2007 against the Syrian nuclear project, without U.S. permission, without U.S. buy-in, we may be getting to the point right now that they may act to defend their interests and go after the Iranian program. The U.S. was angry at those two points in 81 and in 2007 with Israeli actions, but a few years later they ended up thanking the Israelis for taking out the attack and doing it unilaterally.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and I mean, this is an existential threat, as we've been hearing repeatedly for Israel. It absolutely is. All right, Greg Roman, I want to move on to another topic. I want to play a clip. Same press conference today where the president made a comment about his recent trip to the Middle East. Clip number three, please.
SPEAKER 04 :
I went to Saudi Arabia. Qatar, and UAE. And we brought back $5.1 trillion. I picked up $5.1 trillion. And, by the way, got a beautiful, big, magnificent, free airplane for the United States Air Force, okay? Very proud of that, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, that trip earlier this month was both extraordinary and concerning for many who track terrorism and the Middle East. You know, for example, I want to focus on Qatar. They're engaged in really kind of an influence funding operation here in the United States, very similar to that that we see coming out of China, giving money to education institutions, think tanks, the media, and former policymakers, just to name a few. Is there legitimate reason to be concerned about what Cutter's doing?
SPEAKER 22 :
There is, 100%. It goes beyond politics and their attempt to influence the White House. If you look at every aspect of American life, things that we hold near and dear on Main Street, if you will, whether it's our K-12 public schools, our private education, higher education, businesses, investment funds, sports teams, our best scientists, engineers, even school boards and state legislatures, the Qataris are trying to manipulate and buy America wholesale. by putting money into efforts with this $1.2 trillion investment that they made. But it's different from the Saudis and from the Emiratis. The Saudis and the Emiratis seek partnership with the United States. Qatar seeks financial dominance over the United States in order to advance its pernicious agenda. And I think that it really has to be clear that along with this amount of money they're trying to put into the U.S. economy, which is potentially beneficial for the United States. It comes with strings attached. But the Qataris need to realize that there are U.S. mechanisms, both in government and also in the private sector, which will hold them accountable. So if they want to deploy their capital to the United States, the U.S.' 's response should be, that's fine, but you've got to play by our rules, not by your agenda.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, maybe this is simplistic, Greg, but as I look at this, I think back 25, 30 years ago when there was debate over China getting most favored nation status. It's very similar. We're talking about business. We're talking about doing economic transactions with these countries that somehow we're going to change them. It didn't work with China. And I would say that Qatar, in their connection with terrorism, I mean, they're almost like the mob. They create a problem and then they say, we're going to solve it if you give us enough money. I mean, they're a big backer of Hamas. In fact, some of Hamas's leadership is hiding out in Qatar. Is that a correct read?
SPEAKER 22 :
It's not just Hamas. They were hosting Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. before 9-11 when he was planning the attacks against the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. They bribed Hezbollah. They acted as the main conduit for foreign remittances to Iran during the maximum pressure campaign of President Trump from 2018, even until today. They host the Chinese currency exchange. for all Middle East oil, allowing Iranian energy to find an exit ramp to avoid U.S. sanctions. They're not just the arsonist and the firefighter. They're also the 6 p.m. news who shows all their spectacles for the world to watch. And they have to be held to account. But the thing that's different with them versus China is that if we want to be able to have a strong U.S. response to their pernicious activity, then I think it will require a misstep by them. And I think President Trump is aware of this. I think he sees the Capitol as something that could be to the U.S.' 's net advantage. But I also think that, as he did in 2017 when he called them a state sponsor of terror on the Rose Garden, on the White House lawn, we might be getting to that point soon, in terms of if they do one misstep, if they have one action which is against American national security interests, President Trump will come down with a hammer and allow that to be the anvil as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, let me just ask you, going back to his statement in the Rose Garden, what's changed since then?
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, I think that the Qataris realized that their activities up through 2017 were not just earning the ire of the United States, but also of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and other Gulf countries, which led to the GCC blockade of Qatar in 2017 through about the beginning of 2020. Now they've been trying to play it quick and fast. They've been moving away from some of their spot, their overt sponsorship of extreme organizations. And they've tried to do it now behind the scenes. But at the end of the day, they're raising that threat is still the same. They're still acting as a maligned force against the United States. in the region. And I think with the cards that they're trying to deal in terms of balancing their interests with American interests, there were some things that they did to capitulate to U.S. demands. But on the long run, they're just waiting until another president comes in, and they're going to plague lip service to President Trump, all at the same time when their Arab news outlets are actually lambasting the United States, are criticizing the presidency, and are making extremely anti-American and anti-Semitic statements on a daily basis. It just has to be brought to the president's attention. And I think at the point that it does, the switch will flip.
SPEAKER 09 :
You mentioned this in passing as an illustration that they cover the 6 o'clock news. They actually are the primary funder behind Al Jazeera's, are they not?
SPEAKER 22 :
The owner, not just the funder. I mean, Al Jazeera is Qatari state television, and they've been labeled as a foreign agent by the Department of Justice, yet failed to register, not listening to the DOJ's edicts. This is what I'm saying. There's too many irons in the fire that they have. And there's too many opportunities for them to make a mistake. And I'm just waiting for the day that all the research we've been doing on them, all of the cataloging of their influence activities, their legal influence activities will come to a boil. And at that point, I think the president will realize that the straw that broke the camel's back was their attempt to buy America without America getting anything in return.
SPEAKER 09 :
So where does the one big, beautiful jet come in?
SPEAKER 22 :
I think that that was an offer by the Qatari Ministry of Defense to give a plane to the U.S. Air Force. At the end of the day, I think when congressional appropriators look at it, it'll actually cost more money to take the plane apart. and to rebuild it than it will to wait until 2027 when those two Boeing Air Force Ones are supposed to be ready. It was more of just a grand gesture, but I think at the end of the day, it's going to be a hollow attempt to try to buy U.S. favor. And when they actually see the issues with the plane, how much it's going to cost the taxpayer, President Trump will probably walk that back.
SPEAKER 09 :
What about – we just got about two minutes left. Qatar, as you pointed out, in a class by themselves. Saudi Arabia not too far behind. Now, UAE is much different. I've been there. I've met with the crown prince there. I think they have – they're a little more open to religious freedom there. Saudi Arabia doesn't have the first church there. Qatar, very similar. So there's – Human rights are two really significant issues when you look at Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right. And I think Saudi Arabia, though, is moving in the right direction, wherein Qatar has just arrested someone who was trying to make a march for religious freedom to be able to practice Christianity. And there was another instance of someone practicing Judaism or put in jail because of the Qataris' actions. The Saudis, albeit they're taking baby steps, are trying to move in the direction of creating zones in the country where there can be religious freedom, where individuals can consume libation. where you can have a little bit more of equality between men and women there. But you have to recognize, at the end of the day, though, the king who comes from that long, long history of Fatah al-Assad going all the way back to the 30s and 40s is still in control. And right now, Mohammed bin Salman can only do what his family will allow him to do. But I think at the point that MBS becomes king, we'll see more of a gingerly pace in the way in which reform takes place in Saudi Arabia. But they are moving in the right direction. It's just a little bit slower than the rest of the region.
SPEAKER 09 :
Greg Roman, great conversation. Thanks so much for joining us. I'm sure we'll be talking again real soon.
SPEAKER 22 :
Thanks, Tony. It was good to see you again.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Interesting stuff. And again, as believers, we need to be watching what's happening around the world. The center of the world is not the United States. It's really kind of the Middle East. Read your Bible. You can see that. All right, folks, out of time for today, but I want to thank you for joining us. Do take the 21-day Bible Challenge. Text MATTHEW to 67742 and join us. All right, until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand.
SPEAKER 03 :
By all means, keep standing. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins is brought to you by Family Research Council and is entirely listener supported. Portions of the show discussing candidates are brought to you by Family Research Council Action. For more information on anything you heard today or to find out how you can partner with us in our ongoing efforts to promote faith, family, and freedom, visit TonyPerkins.com.
The Crawford Roundtable dives into a packed episode analyzing the “big, beautiful bill” that passed the House, which includes the surprising defunding of Planned Parenthood and pushes to make tax cuts permanent. The hosts discuss why this massive piece of legislation isn’t making bigger headlines—especially on the abortion front—and what to expect as it moves to the Senate. Also covered: the future of Medicaid work requirements, Trump’s threats to redistribute Harvard’s grant money to trade schools, and the uphill battle of ending the Russia-Ukraine war. Plus, passionate commentary on why red light therapy might just beat big pharma and how Preborn is saving lives.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome again. Another episode of the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, John Rush, from Denver, Colorado. My show, Rush to Reason. Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan. Bob Duco's show, and Neil Boron from Neil Boron Live. Guys, we're all together today. Welcome. Howdy, howdy. Always a joy. I learn a lot from you guys on a weekly basis, which I know I say it a lot, but I appreciate that greatly. We've got a lot to talk about today. We're going to get into the big, beautiful bill, different things that are in that, good, bad, and otherwise. Will it pass the Senate? We will talk about the no tax on tips that did pass 100 to 1, or sorry, 100 to 0, I should say, the Ukraine-Russian war. Trump wants to redistribute some Harvard funds to trade colleges. We'll talk about that. And then maybe if we get time, we'll talk about the new or I shouldn't say new, but the advancement in the Tesla robot and where that's headed, and we might get to that. If not, we'll push that off to another week. Guys, let's get started with the big, beautiful bill. Bob, we were talking even before we came on air this morning about the fact that the defund, defunding, I should say, of Planned Parenthood in the bill that passed the house which it is surprising that it did because of some of the folks that are even on our side of the aisle that don't believe that would be the right thing to do which i don't understand how they would believe that but anyway they do so it's surprising that it got that far the question is what will happen in the senate there's a lot of other things inside of the bill the question is how much does that bill get gutted before it even comes back to the house
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you know, I really thought the biggest resistance to the bill would be the defunding of Planned Parenthood, even though, yeah, barely passed the House 215-214. You had the head of the Freedom Caucus have voted present to basically allow this to go forward. You had a couple of Republicans that, you know, voted no on the bill. But I know that in the House there are at least – And so the fact that Mike Johnson actually got them to go along with a defunding of Planned Parenthood, and frankly, I'm a little bit surprised that the press and the Democrats and everything else isn't making a really big issue about this and almost defunding Planned Parenthood. defining the bill as a defund Planned Parenthood bill. So I'm a little bit surprised that that part of this bill has been as low key and below the radar screen, even in the press, as it has been. And so, yeah, now what happens in the Senate? Well, I'm guessing a couple of the pro-abortion rhinos like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski certainly will vote no, I'm assuming. And then the question is, is there going to be more than one defection there. If there's one more defection, that would be 50-50, and J.D. Vance is a tie-breaking vote. But no, as it turns out, the Planned Parenthood defunding has not been the big resistance issue. The big resistance issue has been the increased spending and a lot of other things. It doesn't really do a whole lot to reduce the debt. The Freedom Caucus, people upset about that. So I'm a little bit surprised.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, you're exactly right. More along those lines, some of the Medicaid issues, the SALT deduction that a lot of folks get that the rest of us pay for. That, to your point, Bob, has been a bigger news story in the press, at least from what I've read. Honestly, I saw some blurbs just probably because of what, you know, the three of us do and what you follow and so on when it came to Planned Parenthood. But I have not seen that, you know, front and center, which I was kind of surprised at.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which, by the way, can I just say also, John, when you talk about like Medicaid and stuff like that, I just want to make sure to remind everybody – I know us three know this, okay? There is nothing in this bill that slashes or reduces Medicaid for bona fide recipients at all. There is no senior citizen that's going to have a dime of reduction in their Medicaid. There's no disabled person, no pregnant woman. Nobody like that is going to have a dime. The only people – that are getting taken off of Medicaid are young, healthy, able-bodied people who are just too lazy to get a job and therefore have health insurance through their employer. Instead, they want to sit on mom's couch and play video games and collect Medicaid for being quote unquote low income. And those people don't even have to go out and get a full-time job and get private health insurance through their full-time job. All they have to do is work 80 hours a month, which is about 18 and a half hours a week, part-time, and they could still collect Medicaid. So get off your rear end for just 18 hours a week and you can still collect Medicaid. That is extremely generous and, dare I say, liberal on the part of Trump and the Republicans. So I don't know how anybody can criticize the approach to Medicaid.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I agree, Bob, too. Some of the other cuts that are coming along those lines, too, which I don't want to get off into the weeds because some of this can get very technical, but states upcharge the federal government for Medicaid. And it's a long kind of roundabout way as to how they do that, which I'm not going to get into. I've talked about it on my program. But those are some of the other things, Bob, that they're talking about doing as well, where it's not anything to do with care. It's the way that financially the federal government, we as federal taxpayers, are reimbursing states for Medicaid. meaning that we're getting upcharged. States are making money, by the way, off of their Medicaid programs on the federal level, which shouldn't be that way. So those are some of the other things that they're talking about. And again, kind of gets into the weeds of things, Bob. But to your point, no, no able-bodied individuals, no elderly, nobody along those lines at all. The able-bodied people have to go back to work, but the elderly, some of those folks that are on Medicaid, there's not going to be any effect to that whatsoever, no matter what the press says, no matter what the liberal left says. Neil, I'll throw this to you. That's not in here. That's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, and another aspect of this, I think you're kind of saying it without saying it, but the idea that sometimes Medicaid patients get overcharged simply because medical providers know that ultimately the money's coming from the government. And so they can add in an upcharge and that that will be eliminated in this bill. So everybody would pay the exact same thing, whether you have private health insurance or you're on Medicaid. And that would end up saving the government an awful lot of money because nobody would be able to be patting those hospital charges and whatever. But going back to the abortion question, I don't disagree with anything Bob said. It's really surprising to see that it hasn't been talked about more often. But my question is why? Like, how is it that the media has given a pass on this? And some of the normal people that you hear squawking about these kinds of things aren't making a bigger deal of it. It's, it's really unprecedented. I don't have an answer for it, but I just wonder if you guys have any speculation.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I'll talk to you. I'll ask you first, Neil, Bob, you can chime in. Do you think it's because sometimes we don't talk about a lot of things on our site because we just know at the end of the day, That's not going to happen anyways. Do you feel like maybe the left is looking at this like, yeah, that's in the House bill, but the Senate is going to take care of that on their own. There's no need to, you know, let's concentrate on the things that really matter at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
It could be. And I hope you're not right, you know, but at some point, you know, we're going to hear about it. I mean, Planned Parenthood isn't just a single organization. There's a network of people that are pro-abortion to the max and literally are part of a culture of death. And I can't see that anybody's just going to go, well, I guess, you know, got cut. No more funding for Planned Parenthood. That will not happen. So eventually we're going to hear about it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bob, you agree with me that some of that might just be that their thought is it's going to get handled in the Senate, so why focus on it?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what, though? There's part of me, and I don't know if this is really the case or not, but there's part of me that wonders, does the left think we have abortion motivation or we have abortion trending on our side ever since 2022? And so let's not mess with that because if we make an issue out of the funding thing, it could could be a case where Americans say, well, no, we don't want abortion made illegal, but it's a fair point to say, should taxpayers really be paying for it? So maybe the left is actually afraid of that debate because it starts shifting the abortion discussion back in the favor of pro-lifers a little bit. Maybe they've been doing some internal polling or whatever of Americans and finding out that Americans are like, We want abortion legal, but we think it's a fair argument to say it shouldn't be paid for by the American taxpayer. And maybe the Dems know that they would lose that in the court of public opinion, and then it shifts the trending back toward the pro-life side. So that could be the case too, although I just don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I want to believe that's true, but I doubt it.
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SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I know. Although season one is kind of weak. The characters got defined by season two and forward. But no, look, I'm with you. I'm with you. And certainly when it comes to our sponsors, SunPowerLED has helped so many people. pre-born is out there saving lives of babies. They're stopping abortions, but it does take money to stop these abortions. The way they're stopped is by paying for ultrasound images. When you show an ultrasound image of an unborn baby to that expectant mom in a pro-life center in America, she chooses life almost all the time. And by the way, it's very common for her to accept Jesus Christ as Savior too. So what we want to do is pay for as many ultrasound images as possible so we can save as many babies' lives as possible. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to save one baby's life, to stop one abortion. So we're asking everybody in the audience to pray about a number of babies' lives you'll save. It's really that simple. You're paying for ultrasound images. Take $28 times fill in the blank, and whatever that number is, That's your forever legacy of the amount of abortions that you've stopped. And maybe you've given a pre-born already. Well, would you do it again? Now, we need some of you out there to buy ultrasound machines. They're 15 grand apiece. Your forever legacy is you're stopping thousands of abortions year after year. It's a nice tax write-off for you too. But for everybody else, $28 times fill in the blank. Come up with a number. Pray about a number. And 100% of what you give to pre-born goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So Here's how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. Or just call 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. Neil?
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, guys, I appreciate that very much.
SPEAKER 03 :
I thought I'd throw it to Neil, but John, how about I throw it to you instead? That actually makes more sense. Neil's got me all hung up on Everybody Loves Raymond. Now I've got all the episodes running through my head.
SPEAKER 04 :
You caught me off guard. I had my mic off and I was trying to think of my favorite episode, but go ahead. Sorry, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, John, do you even watch Everybody Loves Raymond?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, that's a show I never got into. Sorry, guys. Really? Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Neil, I need to be praying for John.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't watch a lot of TV anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, I thought you were a good guy, man. Sorry.
SPEAKER 03 :
Whatever. He's one of them. He's one of them.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. Back to the big, beautiful bill. And what's going to be interesting, too, on this, Bob, as you know, is, of course, there's all sorts of individuals, the budget office even talking about how much debt this adds and so on. And that's part of the controversy even inside the Senate is how much debt is this really going to add? It's going to make some of the tax breaks worse. Of course, we've had in the past permanent. It'll make some of these, you know, the salt, the state and local tax deductions. It also does some things in regards to, you know, clean energy tax breaks and things along those lines. It scraps some of those, which, by the way, I'm I am all for. Bottom line is there's folks inside. To your point earlier, Bob, there's folks inside the Senate that don't think this goes far enough in some of those cuts.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, and this is where. The Republicans, I think they have to be pragmatic about certain issues because, you know, I wish that the Republicans were all as fiscally conservative as the House Freedom Caucus. OK, I wish they were, but they're just not. And they're afraid of their own constituents and not getting reelected if they get branded as somebody who's taking food away from senior citizens and children in schools. That's not the case, but it's perceived that way and presented that way in the media. So to me, look, I look at a vote in the House of 215 to 214, and you know what that tells me? That tells me that Trump... And Mike Johnson got the absolute most that they possibly could out of the House Republicans. OK, the House Freedom Caucus on one side, the liberal rhinos on the other. 215 to 214 is as close as it gets. And so I just don't know how much they left on the table today. that they could have gotten in addition to that. And I think the Senate Republicans need to realize that as well. And we got to remember, a massive part of this bill is making permanent the tax cuts. Everybody's facing a pretty big tax increase by the end of this year if this doesn't get passed.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. Good point, Bob. Yeah. And again, that's where a lot of the left, of course, and a lot of the criticisms are coming in. And one of the things we've talked about on this program many times, and I know I have on my program individually i'm sure you guys have as well as the lies the left push out about those tax cuts and the fact that they only benefited the wealthy which is a flat out and out lie they benefited middle america in fact low income voters in a lot of cases became net tax receivers instead of net taxpayers so anytime you hear the left say that the only thing that those tax breaks ever benefited were the were the rich you know you know uh you know, Trump's buddies, his billionaire buddies, you'll hear them say those sorts of things. Out and out, flat out lie. And to your point, Bob, for the majority of people, if those tax cuts don't stay permanent, you'll see an increase across the board.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, can I say something about that, John? Go ahead. And then, Neil, I'm going to give you a chance too. But this is something that I've been challenging my audience to do, the liberals in my audience who say that this is a tax cut for the billionaires. I've been challenging them. Go back, any of you, if you still have your pay stubs from 2016 and 2017 – in 2018. Look at your pay stubs from the end of 2017. Look at your new pay stubs in 2018 after the tax cuts went into effect. And then you tell me if your take-home pay didn't go up without you getting a raise. And then the next question is, are you a billionaire or even a millionaire? And if not, will you have the integrity to say, I apologize, I was wrong. It looks like I have believed the lie. And then the very same thing applies to the end of this year. If this is a tax break for billionaires and this does not pass, I want you to look at your first paycheck of 2018 and ask yourself, did I just get a pay cut? No. No, you now have more taxes being taken out. And then ask yourself, am I one of the millionaires or billionaires? Well, I'm not. Well, is it possible then that maybe just maybe the conservatives were telling the truth that this is a tax cut for everybody like me and the liberals have been lying about this just being a tax cut for the billionaires? Look at your own pay stubs and then you tell me who's lying.
SPEAKER 02 :
The other thing they can look at, Bob, too, which should be – I know a lot of people don't understand the tax sides of things and maybe – don't even understand their own tax return, but very, very few people nowadays itemize because of the Trump tax cuts. They gave you so many flat out across the board deductions that you no longer had to go through and have a receipt for this and a receipt for that. And let's deduct this and let's deduct that. No, it was a flat out deduction across the board. And that's why a
SPEAKER 04 :
at the end of the day those are the things that i'm talking about so really if you're if you're one of those that doesn't itemize chances are if this doesn't go through and you go back to the way it used to be you're going to be paying more in taxes period that's right absolutely go ahead a couple things here um obviously the midterms are coming and that's an issue and you know john you did an incredible job i think it was you talking about maybe it was bob i don't know but uh talking about the uh able-bodied worker that could be working but isn't. And then the minimal requirement of maybe working 18 and a half hours per week in order to stay on Medicaid to provide something for their own needs that way. I mean, okay, so that's part of it. And those are some of the people that this whole thing looks at. But there's an awful lot of aging, patriot American Republicans that are real concerned about know what happens to medicaid and social security and i'm not saying anything majorly detrimental is going to happen there perhaps nothing but i'm just raising the issue that perception is greater than reality sometimes and depending on what the media can do with this and depending on how the fight goes in the senate you know what gets what gets communicated to the american population on medicaid and social security is going to be key in the uh midterms i think secondarily i wish whenever the term spending cut is used by any member of congress any elected official that they would define what they actually mean because like if you picture a guy with a hundred thousand dollar income and he's and and he's two hundred thousand dollars in debt and he says well next year i'm gonna do better i'm gonna try to really reign it in i'm only gonna spend a hundred and thirty thousand dollars people go are you out of your mind you're already in debt and you're gonna overspend again okay i'll cut my spending and now i'm only gonna spend 120 000 next year Well, you're still you're still mortgaging your future. And that's that's honestly what one of my big concerns about all of this is because if the debt continues to grow and I honestly remember talking about the debt as an issue when it was $4 trillion, like back in the nineties, we had a lot of conversations on my program about it back then. And one day I was in New York City Not that I go there much, but I was in there. I was in New York City and I looked at that time counter in Times Square or whatever, the national debt counter. I mean, the thing is buzzing by like the debt is increasing as we speak, just astronomical increases. So ultimately what happens to our kids and grandkids? And the truth is you either bring in money via taxes. Or you cut spending. And I don't think anybody wants more taxes. We need less so that we can spend more money and that the economy can revive. Nobody can handle more taxes. So there has to be cuts in spending, like real cuts, not fake cuts. And I am concerned about that part because this bill does seem to add to the future debt of the United States. And I don't think that's a good thing for our kids. So I hope they can figure that part out.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and by the way, we've got a few minutes here before we have to talk about SunPower and Preborn. But along those lines, the one thing that you and I both complain about continually, you did a good job of messaging the 18 and a half hour work week. The problem is nationally, we don't do a good job of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
We really don't. And, John, you and I are like a broken record when it comes to the right in this country effectively messaging and branding and communicating. They tend to do a lousy job of it. One of the things we've got to remember about cuts to entitlement programs and such is that most of these cuts are actually not cuts. They're just reductions in the amount of growth. So when we're used to having a 5% or 6% annual increase to something, and instead it's going to be a 3% to 4% increase, the Democrats call that the Republicans cutting it. The media reports it's a cut, and people thinking that their entitlement checks that they receive from the government are actually going to be reduced. No, they're just not going to go up as high of a rate as they normally do. So most of these are not even – actual cuts anyway. Most of the cuts are happening through elimination of waste and fraud, which is certainly a good thing. And yeah, and you know something? Making that 25-year-old kid get off his lazy rear end of mom's couch and go out and get a job, that has zero effect on grandma and her Social Security or her Medicaid payments. If anything else, it strengthens that because it makes it more solvent. That's right.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And we do appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. If you haven't given a pre-born yet, do it now. OK, maybe you've given a pre-born in the past and it's been a while. Do it again. You're saving babies lives. You're stopping abortions. And you can do this a couple of different ways. Number one, buy an ultrasound machine. They're 15 grand apiece, nice tax write-off for you. Your legacy is that you're stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year. Okay, because when moms see an ultrasound image of their baby in a pro-life center, they choose life. They don't go across the street to Planned Parenthood. Now, you might be like, well, I can't afford to buy an ultrasound machine. Okay, then pay for an individual number of ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. So how many abortions will you stop? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, maybe God lays a number on your heart. That's what you give. And you know something? 100% of anything anybody gives to Preborn goes right to the ultrasounds. Every penny. Because overhead's covered by private donors. You don't have to worry about that. So give the same way. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. Or just call 833-850-BABY. It's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call, John.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I appreciate you guys. And yeah, for all of you listening, please support those different companies that make this thing, make this podcast happen on a weekly basis. We appreciate them greatly. Appreciate all of the things I've learned, by the way, Neil, especially from SunPowerLED and Bob, the support that we have given to Preborn over the years. Fabulous. Last but not least, not to continue on, Bob, but the lies that the left continues to pour out, that affects the pre-born side, which I'm sure you can talk about here in our next hour. Sorry, our next half, I should say, of this hour in a few minutes as well. We're going to wind things down here for the first half of the National Crawford Roundtable. And, folks, one of the things we're going to talk about here as we come back is the Ukraine-Russia war is actually on the increase. It's not on the decrease yet. So that's something that we'll get into. Also going to talk about if we have time, Trump wanting to redistribute the Harvard funds. There's, I believe, about three billion dollars that are in funds that would that would typically go to, in this case, Harvard. And Trump is wanting to redistribute those things out to trade colleges. We'll get into some of that here. in just this next half hour as well. But again, folks, support our sponsors if you would. We appreciate it very much. Again, myself, I'm John Rush from Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Bob Duco from The Bob Duco Show from Detroit, Michigan. And of course, Neil Boron from Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. This is the first half of the National Crawford Roundtable.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is a Crawford Media Group production.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, welcome back. Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. Again, I'm your host, Sean Rush, Rush to Reason, Denver, Colorado, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, The Bob Duco Show, and Neil Boron from Buffalo, New York, from the Neil Boron Live. So guys, we'll see what happens with the Senate when it comes to the big, beautiful bill and what all, if any, gets gutted. Who knows? I mean, that's one of those things that we'll just have to wait and see what happens. There are, of course, deadlines. Maybe Bob isn't the right way to say that, but there's things that need to happen in a timely fashion. They can't just sit on this thing forever. And I think that's It is something that we're going to have to get done. And of course, there's talk if no matter what happens, the debt ceiling will have to be raised, period. I believe it's July is the date for that. So the reality is there's things that have to get done in the Senate no matter what.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, and there is. And I hate, hate, hate the idea of lifting the debt ceiling. I do. I don't know, honestly, what the answer is to get Republicans to be fiscally conservative, they're unfortunately not. They're willing to run up the credit card as well. They just don't run it up as high as Democrats want to run it up. And we both know it's because Republicans, I mentioned this earlier, they're afraid of the media and they're afraid of their constituents. Because if the media portrays them as taking necessities away from poor people, then they get voted out of office. And so how do you get around that? You become better at communicating. Well, the Republicans stink at communicating and staying on message and having one cohesive message from the entire party. And that's unfortunate. I believe if they could get better at that, the American public would understand that we have to scale back our spending in certain areas. And that means that the government is not the be-all, end-all for every need that people have. Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
For example, Bob, along those lines, when's the last time you heard a message out of D.C., out of us, Republican National Committee even, that then gets filtered out to every state? When's the last time anybody talked about what the annual interest alone is on the national debt? When's the last time you heard that figure, Bob?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what? Hardly ever. And right now, if I remember right, I believe the interest is knocking on a trillion dollars a year. It's $1 for every $7 spent.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's the largest line item we have.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it is insane. And so what could we do with a trillion dollars a year? It's like, oh, my goodness. So I don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't mean to belabor this because we did talk about it in the first – you know, half hour of the podcast, but our children's future does matter. Like at some point if, if the debt continues to increase, especially at the rate it's been going, eventually there comes a point of implosion, right? Like at some point you can, you can no longer afford to pay your debts and you're bankrupt. Well, we're probably already technically on paper in that position, but to just say, we're going to raise the debt ceiling and move along and pretend everything's okay. That's pretty scary because we're handing our kids. That's like saying, OK, well, I'm getting ready to pass away here, but here's the legacy I'm leaving you. I'm leaving you, you know, my son, my daughter with one hundred million dollars in debt. Really? That's their future. Well, that's not an accurate number based on this, but you get the point I'm trying to make here. And so. Where does that end? And who's gonna have the courage to do it? And what's kind of baffling to me is that Donald Trump doesn't seem really that concerned about this. And if anybody was gonna have the backbone to be able to say, we need to spend less than we bring in, which is the only way to grow your income, right? You gotta spend less than you make. And if taxes bring in X, then we got to spend less than that. Nobody's ever been able to do it. And apparently as a part of this bill, you know, they're going to have to ask for an increase to the debt limit yet again. And I think it's dangerous. What that means to me, you can convince me otherwise, but what it means to me is the implosion is coming and there's no way to stop it. Unless you're going to change this, it will happen and America will be utterly bankrupt.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's a trillion, 26 billion as we speak, and that is the interest on the debt. And again, that's a figure that most people don't talk about nationally or even locally in politics and so on. And there are several ways, not to get off track, but there are several ways to address this. Keep in mind that the higher the interest rates are, which I know is one thing that the Trump administration right now is really – working hard on they're trying to work around the fed even because the fed is probably not going to do anything but they're trying to work around the fed but the reality is the you know the higher the interest rates are the bigger that interest on that debt is which is a whole nother problem we could probably spend an entire hour on a podcast talking about that and even explaining to the average individual how that actually works because i don't think bob in most cases people even understand what i just said yeah
SPEAKER 03 :
They really don't, unfortunately. And so I guess part of the challenge here, and I know what Neil's talking about, that if anybody would have the backbone to speak up about the debt, it would be Donald Trump and reductions. But then part of the challenge is that how does Trump get his agenda forwarded then? Because a lot of things in the bill that he wants to push forward, if he doesn't get anything done, if Trump's like, no, I'm demanding that we actually really reduce spending by $2 trillion a year and that doesn't include waste. I think that would be fiscally responsible, would be fiscally right. But you lose every Democrat and you lose about a third, if not half, of the Republicans on that because they just wouldn't have the guts for it. That's right. I mean, I hate to say it. I'm not trying to defend Donald Trump here. But what else does he do if you've got a third to half of Republicans? It's like, oh, I'm not touching that with a 10-foot pole. I'll worry about that for the next generation. I mean, I hate to say it.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, to your point, you're really caught between a rock and a hard spot, Bob. You're 100 percent correct. Right. Again, not defending him because Neil is correct. It needs to happen at some point. But I hate to bring everybody the bad news. It's not going to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and the $2 trillion kind of rings a bell because isn't that what Doge set out to eliminate?
SPEAKER 02 :
Set out to eliminate, yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And didn't do it. So, again – Well, no, really quick.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, not yet. Yeah, not yet. Keep in mind there's a lot of legal things that they're also fighting, legal challenges that have now gone even to – Supreme court reality is they wanted to do a lot more. The problem is every single time they wanted to cut something, it was nothing but resistance from the left, which again, Bob, the messaging sides of things, we don't tell people enough of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. I know. And you see your average voter doesn't really know the facts.
SPEAKER 04 :
Unfortunately, they just skim the headlines of the mainstream press and they think they're getting the news and pay attention to what the Democrats are saying during their campaign ads on television. headed up to the midterms. It's going to be all about the failure of Doge, blah, blah, blah. Okay. In the long run, probably great gains made in that area. But, and it was totally necessary that we have that kind of fiscal responsibility that somebody is looking at waste and fraud and the whole thing. Everybody in the common sense kind of way knows that, but all of these things are going to be used against Republicans in the midterms. And I'm a little concerned about that, to be honest.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I am too. And that's something we can probably talk about. On down the road a little bit here, guys. Ukraine-Russia war. Let's talk about that for a few minutes. This is something that is always in the news, of course, but it becomes heavier at times than others. And right now, you know, Trump is now threatening sanctions against Russia. Putin is not willing to come to the table. Things are escalating. He's trying to fund the war machine. I mean, at the end of the day, Bob, it's a big deal. Before we get into that, though, before we start talking about the whole Russia-Ukraine thing, let's talk about pre-born and let's make sure people understand how to give to them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Please, because we do want you folks to do everything you can to stop abortions, to save babies' lives. Preborn does this. They're in pro-life centers all across the country. They have ultrasound machines. They show ultrasound images to the moms. The moms choose life when they see a picture of their baby. And it's very common for them to accept Jesus Christ as Savior, too. Problem is that the demand is higher than the supply. There are not enough ultrasound machines and not enough ultrasound images being paid for. for these moms. I'd love it if every single pregnant woman in America could see an ultrasound image of her baby. Well, you can help increase the ultrasound images by paying for them. If you buy an ultrasound machine, they're 15 grand apiece, nice tax write-off for you, and your forever legacy is you're stopping thousands of abortions. Will you pay for an ultrasound machine? Now, if you can't do the 15 grand, then at least pay for an individual number of the images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. So how many abortions will you be willing to stop? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, that's your forever legacy. Maybe you've given a pre-born already. Would you give again right now? And don't forget, everything you give to Preborn, every penny goes to ultrasounds, nothing to overhead that's all covered by private donors. So here's how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn, give right there. Or give over the phone, 833-850-BABY. And the answer to the phone is 24-7. So call now, 833-850-BABY. baby mentioned national Crawford round table. When you call, like I say, go to Crawford media group.net. You can click on preborn and you don't want Neil. That's also where people can go and get information about sun power led because they do phenomenal work with photobiomodulation in a completely natural way. Getting them out of pain.
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SPEAKER 02 :
All right, back to the Russia-Ukraine war. Things have, of course, escalated. Even this past weekend, there were different things that were happening in regards to attacks and missiles and different things the EU even said that Ukraine could now use and so on. Reality, Bob, is... This thing isn't de-escalating, and I'm a little bit surprised. It's one of those areas that I felt like Donald Trump would have handled by now. I figure within 180 days or so of him being president, he would have a lot of these things dialed in. And the fact of the matter is, Putin just doesn't want to give up anything at all. The guy won't even come to the table with Ukraine, which I think shows you his character. I mean, I get it. It's a war. At the same token, it's not going to benefit Russia at the end of the day to continue down the path that they're going.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, the only thing I can think is that maybe Vladimir Putin has been convinced that this will go down into the history books as another stalemate for Russia like their 12-year Afghan war embarrassment. That Russia was at war with Afghanistan for 12 years and couldn't beat them. And it basically became their Vietnam. And that with Ukraine, he can't seem to beat Ukraine as well, and he's afraid of looking weak. And so, therefore, it's like, no, I'm going to keep pounding them into – submission as much as I can. I just, I don't know. Look, I'm with you. I am surprised. I thought Trump would have brokered something by now between the two, but if I can come to Trump's defense, if Trump can't broker it, I don't know who could. So I would still tend to say, let the best negotiator on planet earth, let him keep working this. And if anybody can bring it together, I think it would be him. It's just it is taking a lot more time and it's a lot more difficult. And, yeah, Vladimir Putin is just not willing to play ball. And it's unfortunate. But I think Trump would be right then to increase sanctions on Russia and say, you know something, Vladimir, I don't want to play dirty with you, but you leave me no choice. Here we go. Here go the increased sanctions. You're just going to hurt financially as a result of this. Don't be stupid about it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and he even made a quote that Trump said, you know, we're in the middle of talking, and he's sending rockets into Kiev and other cities. I don't like it at all. Well, yeah, of course he doesn't like it, and that's just dumb on Putin's part. Again, at the end of the day, this isn't going to end well for Russia. And, you know, where I feel bad, Bob, is, of course, there's a lot of folks inside of Russia, Christians and so on, that are going to be affected by the stupid moves of their leader.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know they are. And so I maybe this is a thing where the people of Russia need to start kind of revolting a little bit with with Putin. He's just so bent on looking strong and not looking weak. And by the way, Donald Trump. has been willing to massage Putin's ego publicly. If you notice, he hasn't really talked in mocking, belittling tones toward him because he understands that, hey, I'm dealing with an ego here. If anybody gets ego, Donald Trump does. He's got one himself, and he knows that his other leaders know they got to massage Trump's ego if they want to get anything out of him. Trump knows that about Putin, and it hasn't been enough so far. So there comes a point where where Trump is going to have to, yeah, he's going to have to step up the punishment on Putin, but still try to help him save face. If he can convince Putin, here's an exit strategy for you to get out of the Ukraine war and save face and still look strong and not make it look like a second Afghanistan stalemate embarrassment for you. If Trump can come up with a way to create that perception on the world stage, then I think he can get Putin to maybe consider it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Neil, the one thing, and you talked earlier about the midterms in 2026, and not that this will have... a huge effect on midterms. It could have some effect because, again, it's one of the things that Donald Trump talked about having done before he even came into office. And you heard what I said to Bob a few minutes ago. I really felt like this is one of those things that by now he would have handled. The problem is, and I believe everything Bob is saying is correct, Putin just doesn't want to give in. He doesn't want to lose face over anything. So I guess the question at the end of the day, Neil, is how do you deal with a madman? Because literally that's what Putin is.
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Well, yeah, you're right. But on top of that, Trump has given the impression that he knows how to deal with a madman. And now it's kind of being revealed that he maybe doesn't. And I don't think anybody fully understands Vladimir Putin. I mean, if you recall, what was it, a month or two ago, he sent the text, Vladimir, stop. stop sending these rockets in there well uh you know into ukraine well he's still doing it and and it's not going away so he he has no other choice but to impose more sanctions and then even i think what they call secondary sanctions on people that are buying goods and services from russia the people supporting the russian war machine right so now you're into secondary sanctions because you've got to put the clamp on this somehow and again heading into the midterms you're going to see this but you know he was the one who said that he could end this war in a day like you know if i'm president of the united states russia ukraine war is over in a day well everyone knows at least supporters of trump know that he speaks often with hyperbole but come on uh He doesn't appear to be any closer, in fact, maybe further away from solving this issue. So really, ultimately, this thing has to get under control by the midterms or again, conservative Republicans are in big trouble. I'm not putting blame on Trump because I don't think a madman like Vladimir Putin can really be dealt with. But on top of that, too, you're dealing with another madman. I don't care how you say it. You know, a couple of years ago, if you go back like three years ago on this podcast, maybe four. We were calling Ukraine the most corrupt nation on the planet. So I don't really know what's going on in the Ukraine side. And I think there's way more complicating factors than any of us fully understand about all of this. But Donald Trump obviously does not control Vladimir Putin. And I think Putin wants the world to know that. However this thing resolves, I think everybody's going to need to eat a little bit of crow or it's not going away anytime soon.
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Well, and I agree. And even today, the Senate Republicans, those of us that, you know, our side of the aisle, I should say, are demanding sanctions against Russia, trying to put more pressure on him. And again, this just isn't going to end well for Putin, although he's one of those guys, as Bob said, I don't know. At the end of the day, he really cares what everybody else thinks. This is more about him and his country and his ultimate mission and goal as to what he wants to do there. in the first place. Let's talk, guys. We've got a few minutes here left, and I did want to get this. This is very, to me, especially my background, you guys know where I've come from and so on, but Trump threatening to redistribute $3 billion in Harvard grants to trade schools, which, by the way, knowing what Harvard, I'll start with you, Bob, knowing what Harvard has done or not done, maybe, is the way to say it, or what they've done in regards to antisemitism and the wokeism and so on. You know what? As a trade guy myself, I would welcome this all day long. Do it, Trump. Absolutely.
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Look, this is sending a powerful message to all colleges in America, okay? If you're going to be woke, if you're going to promote or turn a blind eye to anti-Semitism, then you need to be called on the carpet for this. And by the way, they recognize this. Did you see what Harvard University's president, Alan Garber, given the commencement address, what he said during the commencement address? He said, you know something? We don't have enough conservatives on campus and the other viewpoints, and they're afraid to speak up, and this is a problem, and we need to address this. So here he is publicly saying, you know, we're too liberal heavy, and we're not making conservatives feel welcome enough and their voices. That's clearly – His way of trying to stave off Trump in coming after them while at the same time fighting in the courts to stop their funding from being removed. So, yeah, there's no reason in the world that we ought to be funneling all the money that we do to these colleges, Ivy League colleges and such. When they push a bunch of liberal left-wing wokeism, frankly, I don't think we ought to be publicly funding them anyway. Let their alumni do it. Have fundraisers, okay? Do it the way everybody else normally does it and raise your money through tuitions and such. But to think that it's the taxpayer's job to prop up these colleges, I don't believe in that anyway, let alone when they're left-wing propaganda machines. Yeah.
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And Neil, you know my background. I'm not one for wanting to give anything away. I think things should be earned. But if there's anything that I do feel like as a country, we could help get back on track. And it's so needed. I mean, we've got so many holes, if you would, in the trades right now because of things that even Bob just talked about a moment ago. And we've pushed people to go to you know, college and not a trade college, but the other types of colleges where they come out with underwater basket weaving or a degree in gender studies or whatever the case may be, Neil. And at the end of the day, they can't, they can't even pay back their student loans. I'm all for somehow jumpstarting the trades and getting people, you know, re-engaged with them and figuring out, wait a minute, I can go to the trades. I can have a whole lot less debt when it's all said and done. And in some cases, depending upon my employer and maybe no debt at all, and make far more money, in some cases double, triple even, depending upon the job you get into. I can make triple the money that my cohort, my other fellow student that now has gone off to one of these colleges, is now doing four years later. In fact, a trade college, he or she could be done in two years. So the reality is, at the end of the day, that trade college is much more suited for a lot of individuals, and for us as a country, it's desperately needed right now.
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Yeah, I think it's time for the pendulum to swing back the other way, and this may be the way that it starts to happen. I think it's already happening because of how other universities have responded. Harvard has this elite aristocracy kind of feel about it, and we're at the top of the totem pole and we will not budge. We're going to do our own thing. Harvard, how is it that taxpayers are helping to fund Harvard University? They've got a more than $50 billion endowment, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure the exact total. It's a massive endowment. What's that money being used for? And how in the world is it that that never gets tapped into? But, you know, the idea that, hey, look, we can do our own thing. You will not tell us how we're going to operate on campus. Really? We're not we're not allowed to say that anti-Semitism is wrong and it can't happen here. So really, if you just flipped it around and said, look, if Harvard happened to be saying, look, we're going to promote the Ku Klux Klan here. and we're going to be anti-black and completely racist in all of our policies, who would stand for that? Well, you'd never get away with it. But apparently, if it's against the Jews that you're inciting this anti-Semitic mentality, that you can get away with that at Harvard, really? No, I think that absolutely our government needs to hold their ground, and I would be thrilled to see $3 billion go to trade school. I don't think it's going to happen, but if it did... Oh, my goodness. That's one of those moments where like finally, you know, the scrawny little kid at the water fountain punched the bully in the face and knocked him down. Like it's time for that kind of change in America. And I think Trump needs to hold his ground.
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Fifty three point two billion, by the way, is what it is. Fifty three point two billion. And that's a year ago. So it could be higher than that today.
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And you know what? To Neil's point here, John, is that – no, college campuses would never allow KKK clubs to whatever – but they don't even have to go that far. If you tried to hold a rally, a there are only two genders rally – You couldn't get away with that on college campuses. Suddenly they wouldn't care about free speech. But you can go ahead and hold a from the river to the sea, promote the Intifada, celebrate Hamas, eliminate Jews in Israel rally. And, well, you know, we're a free speech minded people. You know what? No, that's nonsense. This helped bring down Claudine Gay. And I think the new president of Harvard realizes, oh, we're going to have to make some changes here. By the way, I misspoke earlier. It wasn't during his commencement address he said those words that I said. It was during an interview with NPR. But still, he's publicly saying that this is an issue that's got to be addressed, and it does. And Trump is absolutely right to challenge them where it hurts. We're going to take away your money.
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Join Al Smith as he unpacks the complexities of early retirement, including the critical decision-making factors surrounding when to claim Social Security benefits. Learn about the fascinating story of Ida Mae Fuller, the first Social Security recipient, and gain valuable insights into how cost of living adjustments affect your benefits. Whether you're planning to retire soon or simply want to better understand your future Social Security benefits, this episode provides crucial information you won't want to miss.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
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Welcome to another program of Retirement Unpacked. I have some really good information for you today. And before I dive into that, I wanted to encourage you, if you have any questions about how Social Security fits into your retirement, give my office a call and we can sit down and have a conversation about that. My number is 303- 744-1128. And today we'll be talking about Social Security, how that fits into your own retirement, and some statistical, some boring, but some very important information about Social Security, a little bit about the history of Social Security, but most importantly, some key facts that you should know if you're going to be using Social Security as part of your retirement, which is just about everyone who's listening, I would think. And we'll start off with the founding of Social Security when it was passed into law. That took place August 14th, 1935. And before it was passed, both the United States, not both, but the United States, in addition to European countries and so forth, they were thinking in terms of we need to create a safety net, something for people when they're older, something for people, you know, sort of if they're infirmed, you know, just basically a safety net. And when that was passed into law, I don't know this for a fact because I can't quote where I heard it from, but I had heard that when they passed Social Security into law, they had two choices. Well, I wouldn't say when it was passed, but when it was created, they had two choices of the design of the plan. One of those choices would have been individual accounts. very much like an IRA or your 401k at work or something like that. The other alternative was put something into a big pot with everybody's money in there and then passing various laws to determine how that money would be dispersed. They chose the second alternative And looking back with the difficulty Social Security has in terms of remaining solvent, had they chosen individual accounts, that would not have ended up being a problem because people would have whatever's in their account and there would be no controversy with the whole program becoming financially insolvent or needing enormous changes in order to maintain its solvency. But in any event, 1939, August, that brings us to the next major change that took place in Social Security. In 1956, this goes quite a few years ahead, Early retirement was permitted in 1956, and that was initially just for women. It wasn't until five years later than early retirement, early retirement being age 62. It was 1961 before it was available for men. And as far as your benefits, we'll talk about that a little bit later in the program. But obviously, early retirement involves a reduction in benefits. Disability benefits became available from Social Security a bit later. And those benefits were only available to people who were between age 50 and age 64. The next major benefit was for divorced wives. And that took place in 1965. For husbands, that didn't occur until 1977. And Social Security was not taxed until 1983. And 10 years later, in 1993, the IRS, in its infinite wisdom, couldn't just say, well, after you reach this income level, we're going to tax it. They created a two-tiered system, so to speak. So basically people either pay zero tax on their Social Security or they will pay tax on maybe half of it or they will pay tax on 85% of it. And so the highest bracket as far as taxation of Social Security is for 85% of your Social Security is included with the rest of your income. And for married couples, that's adjusted gross income of about, not about, but $44,000 per year. So in other words, if married couples have adjusted gross income of $44,000 a year or more, then 85% of their Social Security will be included in that. And that is a key component in part of the planning that I do when I sit down with people, because There are things that you can do as you get closer to retirement that will permit less of your Social Security to be taxed, and in some cases, actually, zero percent, none of your Social Security could be taxed with the right planning. And that is not necessarily an option for everyone, but depending on the sources of your income, and how close you are to retirement, there are some things that can be done that will either minimize or reduce to zero the amount that your Social Security will be taxed. So again, 1983 and then again in 1993 is where Social Security first was taxed. Between 1972 and 1975, they began doing cost of living increases. Now, initially, those were acts of Congress that were sort of like one time only. In other words, after the country experienced a certain level of inflation, Congress would pass a law that would bump Social Security benefits by a certain level. Well, after 1975, they went ahead and passed the COLA regulation. And basically, that cost of living adjustment is based on a um department of labor number and they use a gathering a bunch of a bunch of goods and services and look at what those cost last year and then this year the obvious downside of the cost of living adjustment is that it's based on the past And so if it costs a certain amount in 2024 to live compared to 2023, then they're going to create an adjustment a year later. And so in other words, the cost of living adjustments to your Social Security benefits, while they are helpful, they are historical. or historic. In other words, they're based on what the cost of living was in the past, but it's certainly better to have an increase or a bump than none at all, clearly. You may or may not be familiar with the name Ida Mae Fuller. She is the first Social Security recipient Ida Mae Fuller, have a little bit of information about her. She was born September 6th in 1874 on a farm outside of Ludlow, Vermont. She attended school in Rutland, Vermont, and one of her classmates was Calvin Coolidge, I think we've heard that name. In 1905, after working as a schoolteacher, she became a legal secretary. One of the partners in the firm was John Sargent, who would later become Attorney General in the Coolidge administration. So, surprisingly, she has a history besides being the first Social Security recipient. She never married, she didn't have children, she lived alone most of her life, but she spent eight years near the end of her life living with her niece, Hazel Perkins, and her family in Battleboro, Vermont. She filled her retirement claim on November 4th, 1939. having worked under Social Security for a little short of three years. While running an errand, she dropped by the Rutland Social Security office to ask about possible benefits. She would later observe, it wasn't that I really expected anything, but I knew I'd been paying into it for some time, this thing called Social Security, and I wanted to ask the people of Rutland about it. now what's interesting is she paid into it for a little less than three years the current requirement in order to collect benefits are you must have 40 quarters which is 10 years obviously since it was a brand new program no one had 10 years experience so she went ahead and filed her benefits her claim was taken by the claims clerk who was elizabeth cochran burke and it was transmitted to the Claims Division in Washington, D.C. for adjudication. The case was adjudicated and reviewed and sent to the Treasury Department for payment in January of 1940. The claims were grouped in batches of 1,000 and a certification list for each batch was sent to the Treasury. Ms. Fuller's claim was the first one on the very first certification list, so her Social Security check had the number 000001. It was issued to Ida Mae Fuller in the amount of $22.54, dated January 31, 1940. Now, all of that is very interesting, but what is really interesting are the financial details. Ida Mae Fuller paid into Social Security a total of $24.75 between 1937 and 1939. Her first Social Security check, number one, paid her $22.54. Now, I don't think Congress way back then had the foresight to sit down and figure out, well, let's see, if someone paid in $24 over a three-year period and they're going to begin collecting $22 a month, how is that going to work financially? I don't think anyone asked that question. But in any event, Ida Mae Fuller paid a total into Social Security, I already mentioned it, $24.75. She collected a total of $22,888.92. She died in 1975 at age 101. And again, I don't think Congress ever had the foresight of how this plan was going to remain afloat, paying out those kinds of benefits with only such a minor contribution. I have some very good basic information about Social Security I will share with you after the break.
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Welcome back to Retirement Unpacked. We're talking about Social Security. And we talked so much already about the history of Social Security and about Ida Mae Fuller, who was the first recipient, had Social Security check number, a whole bunch of zeros and then a one. And interestingly, she almost kind of became famous Because as Social Security changed over the years and so forth, they would always talk about the first check going out each year for Social Security was to item a fuller. And they often made reference to that. Some more basic things about Social Security that you should really know, some really solid basic things. The first being you need to know your full retirement age. for most everyone it's going to be between age 66 and age 67 when social security was first passed into law it was age 65 because people were not expected to live that long back at that time and uh in any event ida may fuller certainly proved them wrong and uh For people born between 1943 and 1954, the age is somewhere between age 66 and 67. And if you'd like to know precisely when your full retirement age is, it's like 66 and a certain number of months, then you need to go on the Social Security website, and there's a way to look that up. Anyone born... 1960 or later, the full retirement age is age 67. And the reason this was changed to age 65 is because people were living longer and it would also shore up Social Security, so to speak. The other thing you need to know is if you qualify for Social Security, because not everyone qualifies, you need 40 quarters. And you're thinking, quarters? Well, you know, what's that about? You get, basically, you get these credits. And for example, $1,810 per quarter will get you one credit. To get the maximum amount of credits, you need $7,240 for that quarter. And 40 quarters, or 10 years, is what you need to be what they call fully insured. That means you are eligible for Social Security. And you need to then also determine what's called your primary insured amount, which you can learn also on the website. Something else that is good to know about, I talked about it when I spoke about the history of Social Security, is the cost of living adjustment. The cost of living adjustment for 2025, for those of you already collecting Social Security benefits, was 2.5%. But I think we all know we have experienced some heavy-duty inflation recently. In 2024, it was 3.2%. And in 2023, it was 8.7% cost of living adjustment. And in 2022, it was 5.9%. Now, the years previous to that are all very modest 2021 it was only 1.3 2020 1.6 if we all go all the way back to 2016 there was no cost of living adjustment because during the year of 2015 they put those numbers together from the previous year things did not go up in cost at least the one they used for the social security adjustment factor Now, it's pretty obvious that if you wait longer, you get a larger Social Security benefit. And if you apply for early benefits, which can be applied for as early as age 62, your benefit is reduced. And this can become for most people a really key component in your retirement planning, whether you're working with an advisor or just getting out the calculator and looking at your financial statements of your investments, knowing the different benefit levels of your Social Security, depending when you file is incredibly important. Whenever I work with an individual or a couple, and we're planning what their retirement is going to look like financially, it's incredibly important that we have their Social Security benefits, the most recent statement. And the full retirement age, we talked about it, it's nearly age 67 for most people. And if someone retires as early as 62, that can be reduced between 25 and 30 percent. And something else that it's completely important to know is for those who file early, age 62, and if you continue to work, and if you have earned income that exceeds $23,400, for every $2 you earn above that threshold, you will lose $1 of Social Security. So keep that very much in mind if you're thinking of filing Social Security early. As over $23,400, you lose a dollar of Social Security for every additional $2 that you earn. Now, it still may be a good idea to file early. If you have some news from your doctor that you have a much shorter life expectancy or any one of a number of circumstances can be a reason to file early. Just know that if you're working, there is a possibility of losing benefits. Now, a lot of people choose to file at full retirement age, and some of them postpone to age 70. Now, you never want to postpone after age 70 because the benefits don't increase after age 70. But between full retirement age and 70, the benefits will increase your retirement benefits by 8% each year. And if it's wise to wait to 70 versus file at full retirement age, there's kind of a break-even point at about age 81. What that means is if two people had the exact same benefits in their Social Security statement, one of them files at full retirement age, one waits till age 70 and files. He'll have a higher benefit, but he missed out or she missed out on those earlier years. By age 81 and a few months, they each would have collected the same amount. 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In this must-listen episode of the Best Stocks Now show, Bill Gunderson offers a masterclass in financial foresight. As the markets hold steady, waiting for NVIDIA's earnings announcement, Gunderson dissects the implications of EU tariffs, rare earth mineral trades, and the changing face of global economic strategies. Tune in to understand how market multiples, interest rates, and historical stock performances shape the investment landscape. Discover Gunderson's unique perspective on financial safety nets and alternative investments, and stay informed about the stock market's evolving narrative.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Wednesday. It's Wednesday already. It is the May 28th. Live edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm not here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst today. He is at one of his boys' graduation today, which is certainly worthy of getting some time off for something as important as that. The market is definitely taking the day off here. Nothing's graduating except... After the close today, we're going to get the biggest earnings report of the entire earnings season. Kind of weird that it happens at the very end of earnings season instead of the very beginning. But the market pretty much on hold right now. The Dow is dead flat at 42,344. The NASDAQ is down 13 points right now to 19,185. The S&P 500 is down two points at 5,919. The small cap's down a quarter of a percent right now. Boy, not much of anything happening today. We've got interest rates up a few basis points here. We're at 4.47%. Not much has happened since that big downgrade of U.S. debt. Gold is up a little bit, 13 basis points, and Bitcoin is down today, $1,869 today. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I am flying solo today as Barry again is at one of his son's graduation. exercises today and uh we have got a hold a hold on the market today there's not much commitments one way or another as uh investors hold their breath on what is now become the biggest earnings report of the entire earnings season And it happens after the close of the market today when Jensen Wang's NVIDIA, which was just a graphics chip company, or graphics card company, they had the best graphics card of all. for all of those PC and online gamers. And it morphed into the biggest AI chip company of all with their Blackwell chips, the latest version of the high-speed chips. And just remember, every time you go on ChatGPT or Grok or any of the other AI programs and ask it a question, it takes a lot of chip power A lot of calculations take place in those data centers to give you an answer back, and sometimes in a split second. And that's where those NVIDIA chips come in. Well, we had a huge day in the market yesterday. And, of course, that came on the heels of the announcement on Sunday, I believe it was, that there would be a 90-day pause. on the EU tariffs, which were going to go as high as 50%. I think Trump would have followed through with that for sure, just like he did with the Chinese tariffs of 140%. But it seems to me that the two sides are getting along just fine and they're working together. In Europe, the EU, in good faith, said, you know, we need just a little bit more time to work these things out. After all, they've got a lot of members there of the EU that have to agree. whether it's Italy or whether it's Belgium or whether it's Germany, a lot of different economies, a lot of different leadership styles. They all got to come together and agree. But they do have a fairly sane and rational person leading the charge there. She's been around for a long time there in the EU. And the two sides seem to be getting along just fine. The Dow was up 741 yesterday. Man, it's come a long way since my article at the very bottom of the market. And by the way, I did write a sequel to that article. Oh, I didn't take a victory lap pounding my chest saying, I told you so, I told you so. That's all I did was present the facts. I've really written four macro articles since the year 2020. My other big one was in 2009 when I said a new bull market was being born. New bull market was being born. That was in my newsletter right at the bottom of the market. And then I followed up with at the bottom of COVID, at the bottom of the NASDAQ. And recently here at the bottom of this 20% plus sell-off, when things looked really dark, I went somewhere quiet, thought through everything, did a lot of studying, a lot of pondering, and in the end I wrote that, you know what, this is going to turn out okay. And so far it has. We're back to where we were before this all started. And then some, and we did have a big 741-point rebound yesterday in the Dow, 119 in the S&P 500, 462 in the NASDAQ. on those EU tariff extensions. That's what drove the market yesterday. What's going to drive the market today? Really, we don't have any catalyst. That's why the market is in a wait-and-see mode. Again, as it waits the biggest earnings release of the most anticipated earnings announcement of the season. You know, over time, it's been different stocks. that have been that one that everybody was looking for. Apple held that crown for a long time. Tesla held that crown for a while. Everybody looking forward. What are they going to report? It's going to impact the entire market. Well, NVIDIA will likely continue its double beat streak, which is maintained for the last seven quarters. But investors will be more tuned in to gross margins and levels of growth. Shareholders also want more clarity surrounding China, which should make for lots of discussion during the post-earnings call with CEO Jensen Wang. I might tune into that one. That's going to be an interesting one. NVIDIA had previously warned of a $5.5 billion write-off due to export controls on its H20 chips. and related hardware so stay tuned on what that means for guidance guidance that's the important word going forward the market is forward looking it more than likely has already priced in whatever earnings are going to report today unless there's a big miss and the market had it wrong But it's that all-important guidance that will be really key to what NVIDIA does. And let's not forget, NVIDIA is a member of the Dow. And NVIDIA is a big member of the S&P 500 and a big, big member of the NASDAQ. We know that President Trump's to the Middle East secured NVIDIA a place in the Stargate project for the UAE. Yes, they're going to build a dome, an invisible protective dome against missiles like Israel has, and they'll probably more than likely play a role in the Golden Dome. which we're building, although we don't yet know the geographic areas of that Golden Dome. I did see an interview with Lockheed Martin, CEO, and he was talking about all the components. He was talking 20 years out. I don't think we have 20 years, to be honest with you, the way Iran and Russia are going. But he was talking about the key components of such a golden dome. NVIDIA will also be selling its GPUs to Saudi Arabia. And along with the MAG-7, NVIDIA's shares have staged a big comeback. Big comeback. It continues to be our biggest holding at Gundersen Capital Management. But following that pause in the Liberation Day tariffs, trading at 135 a share, Nvidia is now unchanged year to date. It's gone nowhere year to date. It's gone down and then back up and now it's flat. Options trading already indicates that big price swings could be in store with the gain or losses as much as 7% for the AI chip maker after the closing bell. I don't know. It's hard. You know, it's really hard to predict what a company will do. NVIDIA had that long string of just unbelievable numbers. Well, it's hard to continue to report unbelievable numbers. They became more believable. And the earnings reports recently have not sent the shares soaring. In fact, they've been much more toned down. And if anything, they've been a little bit negative for the company. I honestly don't know what to expect. I think it's better to look at the five-year target price rather than where it's going to be tomorrow. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. Well, there are other stocks out there in the market besides NVIDIA today. The nuclear stocks extended their rally yesterday as Trump's orders boosting sector resonate. And not only is he trying to really grease the skids of getting approvals. I saw a uranium mine permit in Utah got approved in two weeks. That's the kind of red tape that they're trying to move out of the way to really help with a couple of things. Rare earths. minerals, number one, which China is starting to loosen up a little bit on. They do have that leverage over us. I don't think anything's ever going to come from the Ukraine deal, not with Putin aiming his missiles that way constantly. I think our best hope, well, we've got under the sea. We've got Little Mermaid down there looking. That stock does pretty well, actually. TMC, keep your eye on that. That's... Oh, let's see, TMC, the name of that little stock, which is looking, the metals company. It's Canadian-based. They are exploring the battery metals from the seafloor for those rare earths. That's a healthy chart on that stock, believe me. And the nuclear stocks have also been very strong, even though they're five years out, okay? uh trump is aiming to expand u.s nuclear energy production capacity from 100 gigawatts there's a gigawatts in 2024 to 400 so quadrupling our capacity by 2050 all right therein lies the problem that's 22 years from now It's going to take some time, but we're headed in that direction. New scale, obviously, SMR was up 17.4%. That's one of the more promising as it relates to that small modular reactors. Cameco's been doing real well. I've never had any luck with Cameco. I don't know what it is. I just have a jinx every time I buy Cameco. Some kind of problem comes along. But Cameco does own a big piece of that Three Mile Island complex. You've got Centris Energy, LEU, it was up 12.8%. It's a uranium stock. Oklo is probably my favorite of all. Oklo is another one in that small modular reactor space. Lightbridge is an interesting one. They're coming up with a new improved fuel system for powering nuclear, LTBR. Constellation Energy is probably the blue chip in the group. They've been around the longest. They're in the Baltimore area. Three Mile Island is part of their portfolio. And then, of course, Texas Vistra, VST. These are all good companies. You've got BWX, which maintains nuclear facilities. You've got Uranium Energy, UEC. Or you just throw your hands up in the air saying, I'll buy a nuclear ETF. And there's three that I know of. NLR, I believe, is the one that really focuses on a nuclear. URA and URNM focus more on the uranium part of the equation. So anyways, that's been quite a rally there in those stocks. Anfield Utah, okay. Anfield Energy, that's where that is. That's the name of that company. I don't know exactly where it is. It's in the San Juan County. I'll have to look that one up. ANLDF, their uranium mine approved by the U.S. after just a two-week environmental review. It's usually two years at least just for the guy down at the permit office to open up the file and look at it. You know how that permitting process and all of those EPA studies and going to court and judges stopping it and judges blocking it and go back and back and forth. Anyways, this one, two-week environmental review trying to grease the skids to get this stuff through. You know, whenever a bond offering comes out, I just like to let you know where we are right now in the bond market. Northrop Grumman, which would be, to me, in my mind, a fairly safe bond, five years, you're going to get 4.65%. 4.65% for five years. Now, I know a lot of people out there that would be just... happy with that to get their principal back after five years and that coupon along the way obviously there's a little bit of risk but you don't have that interest rate risk you do if you sell the bond before it comes due but if you hold it to maturity you know you're going to get back what you put into it your capital and i have looked at all these different uh... alternative investments that has become a massive cottage industry in my industry selling alternative investments that supposedly are correlated with the stock market the problem is most of them are correlated with the stock market I find that non-traded REITs were one of the worst ideas of all time that was my take on the whole thing not only did you lose your liquidity Why would you buy a non-traded REIT when you can buy a traded REIT that has a long track record? And if you don't think REITs are correlated with the market, just take a look at what they did during the last bear market in 2008 and 2009. They went down 80%. They're very much correlated, too. the fortunes of the stock market. And I just decided in my own mind, you know what? A good quality corporate bond going out five years, you're gonna get somewhere in the four and a half to five and a half percent range. You're going to have very little fluctuation on about 10, 15. We do that for the people or a portion of your fund that you don't want that volatility and that stock market risk. What is it correlated to? Well, it's mostly correlated to interest rates. That's where you get your fluctuation between the issuance date or the purchase date when you buy the bond and that maturity date. And we continue to own many bonds for our safe folks. We own Netflix. We own App Lovin'. I mean, I could go on and on with some of the bonds that we have handpicked. in that area. That's what we call our safe money and that for us is our alternative investment. You know, I don't like what's going on with Putin. I watched last night several different news reports I listen to a couple of the talk show hosts that I like to listen to. And it's hard to make sense of, you know, other than Putin wants to go further than just what he's already captured in Ukraine. He may want the whole enchilada. And, you know, I think countries that step up to Putin and threaten him, Germany is planning to collaborate with Ukraine on making long-range missiles. That puts Germany in the crosshairs. That's not a good situation over there with Russia. And with Russia getting these drones from Iran, they're buddy-buddy now these days. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show where we've got the markets on hold. I'm looking to do a little bit of buying today. I thought the market was a little bit overheated yesterday. Pulling back just a little bit today, which makes for better entry points into a lot of stocks that I've been drooling over here recently. And why is it in hold mode? Because the biggest report of all, the big one, comes after the close of the market today when our friend Jensen Wang and his little company NVIDIA, which is now the biggest publicly traded company in our markets, will report their quarterly earnings report. They'll report how much they did in sales. That will be compared with the same quarter last year. So we know what kind of growth trajectory that they currently are on. It will also include their bottom line earnings after all expenses. And that will be compared with the same quarter last year. So we know where their earnings trajectory is. And those numbers will be compared with not only the same comparable quarter last year, but what the analysts have come up with and what they've been modeling. And we shall see. You know, it's always a flip of a coin. I would just say this, that Nvidia had a long string of really good earnings reports. And the stock really reacted well after those reports. I'd say about the last three or so. They put up good numbers, but the stock is just kind of, you know. But it is back to 135. And as I said before we went to break, I focus on that five-year target price. For me, that's the key. You know, that takes a lot of the emotion. In the short term, it's very difficult to predict the market. But when you look at what the growth looks like for NVIDIA for the next five years, and what the earnings look like today, and if we extrapolate those earnings out over the next five years at what we think the growth rate will be, and apply a reasonable multiple. I mean, the S&P 500 multiple right now is 21. That's a pretty good place to start with your multiple on an individual stock. Now, yeah, there's a lot of stocks that don't trade at that multiple 21. The housing stocks, for instance, and the airline stocks, some of those trade at single digit multiples. I look at the historic multiples that companies have traded at. I look at the overall multiple of the market, which is about 21 right now. And I look at the growth rate because that impacts the multiple. And last but not least, the interest rate environment. We've got high interest rates, multiples compress. We've got low interest rates, multiples expand. That's why you saw such fat multiples in the year 2020 coming out of COVID-19. We had almost zero interest rates and all that money sloshing around, and now we've got $6.92 bags of Doritos. I was shocked. Just a bag of Doritos. It's printed right on the thing. I mean, that's the list price, $6.92 for a bag of Doritos. That came from that huge bout of inflation, which, yes, the inflation's moderated, but the prices haven't come down. I don't think you're ever going to see that $6.92 come down any more. But that's the Dorito watch. Big Macs will still run you about $5.50. And a McDonald's combination meal will run you about $12 these days. That's the impact of those inflationary years we had. Since from COVID up until now. Bank of New Zealand cuts by 25 basis points. How come every bank, central bank in the world is cutting interest rates except Jerome Powell? Well, he blames it on the tariffs. That's the unknown. Well, the other countries, they have tariffs. They're going to be impacted by tariffs. They're cutting interest rates. I think he's got a little personal thing against Trump myself, but okay. It is what it is. We're at 4.5% on our 10-year, while the rest of the world continues to cut interest rates. China could ease up on rare earth curbs. That Cold War between us and China seems to be warming up just a little bit. But that is one of the edges that China has over us, one of the leverage points. And, of course, you look at semiconductors and you look at a lot of other things out there, especially in technology, and rare earth minerals are a big part of that. And I haven't really heard of any discoveries recently. He tried Greenland. That didn't go very far. Now Greenland is buddying up with Europe, with the EU. China has been blocking those rare earths. He tried Ukraine. That seems like a pretty dangerous area. Would you go to Ukraine as a miner and run a company there looking for rare earth minerals? I don't know about that. And then, of course, under the sea, Utah, Nevada. These are all the areas. If you see any rare earth, let us know because we need them. We still have more earnings, not just NVIDIA. Let me see who else is going to report today. Does anybody really care? Well, Salesforce reporting. They're a member of the Dow. Like NVIDIA, kind of hard to believe that there's still a Dow stock that hasn't reported. Hewlett-Packard's going to report. Macy's has reported. We'll get to that here in a minute. And then tomorrow, Costco, the darling of the retail industry. It really is. I mean, look at the multiple that Costco has traded at up in the 50s, mid-50s. People love Costco. And they're willing to pay nosebleed. Compare Costco's P.E. ratio versus Walmart's P.E. ratio. Even though Walmart's sales dwarf Costco's sales. Costco gets a glamour multiple, while Walmart gets more of a retail-like multiple. Marvell will report tomorrow. That's a pretty big one. Kohl's, which could be terminal, we'll see. Kohl's was floating those 10% bonds. I don't know if they had any takers. I think you'd have to be crazy. uh... to uh... to buy a ten percent bond five years out on uh... coals what will they still be around five years out federal housing agency to discuss something big on mortgage fraud. Now, I don't know if that has happened yet, but what caught my eye, number one, Bill Pulte is the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency. I gotta believe that's Pulte from Pulte Homes. He knows a thing or two about the mortgage industry and the housing industry, but mortgage fraud is a big thing. Who is it? The New York Attorney General, Letitia James, caught up in mortgage fraud. But the interesting part is a big player that the government will be working with will be Palantir. Alex Karp's company. They're going to have a big press conference today. Fannie Mae and Alex Karp and Bill Pulte. That's an interesting trio there. Here's your stock of the day, SPRO. How come you didn't tell me about this one? Am I out there in my listening audience? Up 189% today. Boy, did we miss that one. Well, before today it was a $0.60 stock, and now it's $1.98. Headquartered in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Probably got some links to MIT or to Harvard. But they announced that their drug, tabepinem, which is an oral treatment for urinary tract infections. You never know what we're going to talk about here on the Best Docs Now show. Uranium. You know, all kinds of rare earth and urinary tract infections, otherwise known as UTI. Citing an interim analyst conducted by the studies, blah, blah, blah. It looks like it's having very good results. What's the symbol? S-P-R-O. And the big drug partner here is Glaxo, G-S-K, which has not been a very good stock over the years. I'll tell you a stock that's starting to wake up. And I own it in the relative value account portfolio. And I'm thinking of adding it back to my dividend-paying portfolio. QSR, Restaurant Brands, that's our friend Patrick Doyle that turned around Domino's Pizza. They seem to be running with firehouse subs. They own Tim Hortons, they own Popeyes, they own Burger King, and one other one, Firehouse Subs. It seems to me like they're running with the Firehouse Subs franchise rather than the Burger King, which is kind of hard to revitalize that thing. And the Popeyes, I see them closing stores. And it seems to me like he's kind of zeroed in. Firehouse Subs is going to expand its presence in Mexico as the chain's global growth quest continues. That stock's been breaking out recently. A potential major turnaround play taking place there at Restaurant Brands, which is QSR. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, the latest business plan that seems to be going around Wall Street, pretty much championed by MicroStrategy, which is now, what did they change their name to? Now it's MSTR is now called Distrategy, I think. Micro, no, it's still called MicroStrategy. Here's how it goes. This is the business plan. You float some bonds, borrow money, and you go out and buy Bitcoin with it. And that's kind of been MicroStrategy's business plan here for the last several years. They continue to lose money three years in a row. They have negative net income. But now the latest one to get in on this craze is GameStop. I mean, they've tried everything else. Why not buy Bitcoin? And that's what they're doing. They're the latest company to stockpile Bitcoin with a $500 million position. So you're basically buying the stock. And their balance sheet, which contains Bitcoin. They really don't have much of a business anymore. And that's the business model for GameStop these days, which is still a $14 billion company, believe it or not. And, of course, they ran all of those short sellers out of business, some of them, several years ago when the Reddit gang teamed up and ran those guys out of town. GameStop is headquartered in Grapevine, Texas, these days. And Bitcoin is the name of their game. Robinhood launches desktop trading in U.K., targeting seasoned investors. Well, I bring up Robinhood because it's been a very good stock. And I would say this about Robinhood. It has the force behind it. And the force, I would call the 20, 30-year-olds that walk around staring into their iPhone, which there's plenty of those out there. And Robinhood seems to be their brokerage of choice, allowing them to trade online. I would say second to that is Interactive Brokers. But if you look at Robinhood stock versus, for instance, Morgan Stanley or Raymond James or Ameriprise, you'll find that this stock has done far better. It's given some big returns, and it's been a very strong momentum stock. In fact, let's just look at the Best Stocks Now app, the app that I invented to help me manage money in the market. The performance of Robinhood over the last 12 months, the stock is up 243%. The tariffs aren't hurting it. During that same period of time, the S&P is up 12.5%. Over the last three years, Robinhood has delivered to investors 87% per year. That's just the compound annual growth of the stock over the last three years. Take a look at where the stock was three years ago, where it is today. And you apply that CAGR formula to that, you come up with 87.2%. So far this year, it's up 77.2%, one of the biggest winners in the market overall. That's all, of course, looking backwards, looking forward. My target price on Robinhood is $134 per share. It's currently trading at $65. Yes, it trades at a very rich multiple, but they've been growing at a very rapid pace. So we own Robinhood in our ultra-growth portfolio, which you ought to take a look at sometime how that portfolio has done since I created it back on October. January the 1st, 2019. I started it on Seeking Alpha when they asked me to become one of their premium authors that people can subscribe to. And I do have a lot of subscribers out there on Seeking Alpha. I'm in the chat room all day. Of course, anything I send out on Seeking Alpha through the chat room also goes out to my subscribers through the Best Stocks Now app or through Gunderson, through Best Stocks Now, and they get the same messages. But Seeking Alpha, I started those portfolios for them. Check out the Ultra Growth Portfolio sometime, what's currently in it. and what the compound annual growth rate of that thing's been since January 1st, 2019. Robinhood is currently one of the stocks in that portfolio. Rocket Labs gains as analysts point to upside from Geost acquisitions. I've had bad luck with Rocket Labs. I know some government employees that think the world of the stock, which kind of competes a bit with SpaceX, and has contracts with NASA, I believe, building spacecraft, headquartered actually in Long Beach, California. Rocket Labs recently hit a new high, almost. It's at $29.20. But it's very speculative, RKLB, whether or not they'll be profitable. They're moving very close to profitability. Their sales growth has been pretty good, up there in the 30% to 50% per year range. RKLB makes a recent acquisition, and the analysts think it will be accretive. Maybe it will push them over across the line to profitability. Ah, let's see. A couple more here. We've got one minute. Macy's. They report earnings, the stock up 1.1%. Hard to get excited about Macy's. Abercrombie & Fitch, on the other hand, is up 24.2%. 24.2% after a very strong earnings report. Very surprising that a mall-based retailer... uh... i think there's probably a lot of short interest in the stock and then uh... the last one to report was dick's sporting goods not only did they beat they reiterated their guidance and the stock is up uh... zero point six percent some of the bricks and mortar stores that are still around still hanging in there uh... but just barely in some cases okay well we're out of time uh... the uh... the four week trial wherein you get all the trading alerts, the full Monty newsletter on Saturday, and access to the app. You can go to GundersonCapital.com. Just the education alone is, I think, pretty good for anybody that has interest in the markets. And if you'd like to talk to us, I mean, if you own all the dinosaurs of yesteryear, you know what they are. 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Kim Monson opens the show with a powerful reflection on freedom versus force and dives straight into the expanding grip of government over Coloradans' lives—from bloated property taxes and school bonds to burdensome environmental regulations. Joined by Dave Evans of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, the show exposes how layers of new legislation and unelected task forces are undermining Colorado's prosperity. Later, Kim and energy leader Bob Boswell unpack Trump-era energy policy, the hypocrisy of green mandates amid surging data center demand, and the staggering costs of a $70 million school for just 250 students. Plus, mortgage expert Loren Levy explains the shifting housing market, and farmer/rancher Trent Loos joins Kim to discuss constitutional government, the rising abuse of executive orders, and the threat to individual liberty. As always, the show is grounded in one question: is it freedom, or is it force?
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And it's been, I was traveling and you and Alan Thomas held down the fort and I greatly appreciate that and traveled back yesterday. It was one of those, the trip out was just peachy. Everything went just great. But the trip back to Denver was not peachy. Delays and just a whole bunch of stuff. So there's part of it's like, oh yeah, I like to fly. Oh yeah, I don't. But it is good to be back here in Colorado. to engage in this fight that we're fighting here in Colorado. So check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. While you're there, make sure that you sign up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you will get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity. by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, childhoods, or lives via force. And force can be a Fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, this agenda by the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites. And they're pushing that out via the United Nations, this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor, land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, transmission lines, easements, CO2 pipeline easements. Remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And let's see here. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And those platforms are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And you can say, Alexa, play KLZ. And that will take care of that. Since it is Wednesday, that means it is Wings Day at Hooters restaurants. And you buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. That's for to go or to dine in. And they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Longtree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And how I got to know them is a really important story about the proper role of government, capitalism, free markets, and PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties trying to control our lives. So you can check all that out. at kimmunson.com under the Hooters tab. I have the whole story there. Our word of the day, thank you, Richard, is erudite. And it could be having or showing great knowledge or learning. A synonym could be learned. And it could be characterized by extensive reading or knowledge, well-instructed, and scholarly. And let's see. I'm hoping that you'll... How can I say this? That... Listening to the show, you'll get an erudite perspective on these issues that we're facing so that you can engage in the battle of ideas that's raging particularly here in Colorado. Our quote of the day is from Albert Einstein. He was born in 1879. He died in 1955. He was a German-born theoretical physicist who's best known for developing the theory of relativity. Einstein also made important contributions to quantum mechanics. His mass energy equivalence formula, which arises from special relativity, has been called the world's most famous equation. And he received the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics. And he said this. I thought you guys might find this funny. This is Albert Einstein or attributed to him. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Now, I kind of wonder if that was really him. I get this from AZ Quotes, but I did think that was rather funny. Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. Let's see here. The first headline that I wanted to get to, and we are seeing... not the proper role of government. The founders had wanted the federal government to have certain powers, but not too much power. And I think the income tax, when that was passed back in, gosh, was it 1914? Right around that time. That was when those progressive amendments were passed to the Constitution. That was the game changer. And it then allowed the federal government to get bigger and bigger. And then what happened was, is you had all of these, I'm going to say grifters, and you had all these different states that were going to the federal government for money. And I've never understood why we would send our money to the federal government, they take a cut, and then send it back to us, for example, in gas taxes, something like that. So what's happened is government has gotten way out of control, and we have all of these different grifters that are looking to the federal government for money. So this is from just the news. And it says Denver Mayor Mike Johnston, a Democrat, laid some of the blame on the Trump administration for the municipality's budget woes in a fiscal update, which was given last Thursday. And it says the city and county of Denver plans on hiring freezes and furloughs as it projects $250 million in revenue shortfalls over the next couple of years. Now, remember, all of this money that was used to, and I have this in air quotes, welcome people that have come to America illegally to Denver. So it says Denver Mayor Mike Johnston. Oh, hold on. It says the economic downturn and volatility brought on by President Trump is a major challenge facing Denver, Johnston said in a written statement. This uncertainty, coupled with declining revenues and significant growth in the cost of city government, right there, declining revenues, significant growth in the cost of city government over the past decade, requires to immediately address the city's structural budget deficit while protecting essential services and positioning Denver for economic growth in 2026 and beyond. Says the city projects a $50 million revenue gap for the remainder of this year and a $200 million shortfall in 2026. Now, he thinks that higher taxes are going to be the answer. That's not. Higher taxes will continue to push Denver into more and more decline. So Johnston then said this, he said, explain the growth of city government is unsustainable, nearly doubling in size over the last 12 years, while costs have increased 83% and revenue has grown by 75%, leaving an 8% difference. And I wonder if people's income has gone up 75% in the last 12 years. He said it is not possible to support the level of growth and the quality of services required at this pace, he said. And he said the city's going to move forward with revenue generating projects that aren't drawn from the general fund. such as the National Western Center expansion and the National Women's Soccer League stadium development. He says the furloughs will be tiered and from two to seven days, depending on city employees' pay. The city's hiring freeze will be in place until September 15th. And again, I would say that he needs to grow up and he needs to realize that he and the mayors before him have been making very poor decisions. And it's not the proper role of government to be looking to the federal government for bailouts. And it was never supposed to be that way, to take money from neighbors to give to certain jurisdictions or to go into such debt that our children... Their futures are quite, you know, it's questionable what that's going to look like. So we've got to get the spending under control at the federal level. And we also have got to get the spending control, spending under control at all levels. This is the next thing. I found this. So as we all know, Democrat Senator Michael Bennett wants to run for governor. And this is from the New York Post. And it says Democrat Senator Michael Bennett is furious at his own party, says the brand doesn't help anywhere. So you can see starting to position himself to run for governor. He's been a senator all this time where the Colorado Democrat Party has been moving this way. And now that people are finally saying, you know what, we don't really like this, he is trying to pivot and trying to distance himself from the decisions of the Colorado Democrats. But if you look at what the Colorado Democrats are doing here, this is what they would like to export across the nation. They're just going to try to walk this back a little bit to try to get elected. But it goes on to say that Senator Michael Bennett, who's vying for governor in 2026, voiced his astonishment at the Democrat Party's failure to beat Donald Trump and heavily implied that the brand is toxic. He said, I don't think nationally the Democrat brand helps very much anywhere. And when asked by CNN about his party standing. If it did, we wouldn't have lost to Donald Trump twice. Well, he's absolutely correct on that. And gosh, I tell you, there's so much going on here. Colorado's at the tip of the spear, as you know, I was traveling and watching from afar this article that I think Alan and Kevin talked about yesterday that in Colorado, that because of this new law, 1312, that they're going to try to require Christian camps to have boys in girls' spaces and girls could be in boys' spaces is absolutely crazy. So do not pay attention to these Democrat politicians that are saying that, oh, they're waking up surprised. This is the agenda they want to push down the throats of the country. and they're just going to try to walk this back to get interviewed, or excuse me, to get elected. So all of these great points come to you because of our sponsors. We'll be talking with him in the next hour. Well, actually, no, it'll be this hour in segments three and four, and that is Bob Boswell. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, financial freedom starts with the right guide and Mint Financial Strategies is here to help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience and the credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that's focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms. with clarity, confidence, and control. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. They are your path to independent financial confidence. And on the line with me is Dave Evans. He is one of my fellow Colorado Union of Taxpayers board members. And welcome, Dave Evans.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you, Kim, and good morning to you. It's a bright, beautiful day in Colorado.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, it definitely is. It's great to have you on the line. And I am so grateful to have you as basically a new member to the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. You came on this year and have been just a great asset. And I did want to say thank you to our fellow board members. That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill. Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Remy Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onusorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And it was probably more than you anticipated, wasn't it, Dave, as you really got into these bills to see what's really going on down at the Statehouse?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yes, that's true. It was a real eye-opener. It has been a real honor to serve on the board. What a wonderful bunch of people and so insightful. As I've written reviews of legislation, other people have written reviews and I look at that and I think, oh, wow, I didn't think about that kind of thing. So it's been an education and I sure appreciate it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and we'd really love people to join us. It's $25. You can join us at coloradotaxpayer.org. That's $25 a year. It's $2.08 a month. And we're preparing to work on and get published our ratings report. And so stay tuned for that. But Dave, you had a particular insight and interest into things affecting building in Colorado. So let's talk a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I've spent my entire career, over 40 years, in the construction industry, so it's an area that I'm a little bit more attuned to than other areas. But I've noticed in a number of bills, and I looked at seven in particular, that they're tending to increase costs to housing through additional regulations and fees. And there are additional or I should say incremental code additions that affect housing, but building construction in general. And these are increasing costs on commercial buildings, discouraging improvements, and so decreasing profitability and ultimately potentially affecting employment through, you know, the discouragement of businesses coming to Colorado. There were seven bills that I picked out, and I wanted to go over those briefly and one in a little bit more detail. But House Bill 1030 would have enacted a requirement that building codes throughout the state have accessibility standard as restrictive as the IBC. And a little background on that, the IBC, the International Building Code, is the predominant code used throughout the United States. And in recent years, they've incorporated a chapter on accessibility, which is basically just the ADA with just a few minor additions. And so areas that in the state that have not adopted the IBCs that have those provisions would now be required to do so, essentially. And of course, once you adopt the IBC, that sucks in a lot of other codes as well, like the energy code, for example. And there's also House Bill 1198, which would have created a regional roundtable commission Cut said no on that. It would have been another board intruding into local government and private business. More spending, too, to operate this roundtable. But, of course, it passed. The previous one that I mentioned, I didn't say, but it was enacted as well. House Bill 1245, heating, ventilating, and air conditioning improvements projects for schools. The goal would have been greater energy efficiency and lower emissions, but would have imposed a lot of costs on local schools from the state level and would have involved a lot of federal funding for that as well. That bill also passed. Senate Bill 002 would have enacted regional building codes for factory-built structures. In other words, modular housing as well as for commercial purposes. At present, modular buildings... are governed by a national code and they have provisions for different climates, such as, such as ours versus a warm climate. Um, and, um, but, but the legislators decided that they really ought to have their own code. So what this is going to do is it's going to impose on the, on the manufacturers of these buildings, a unique code, um, which is going to require that units coming to Colorado have special, have to meet special requirements. And so guess what? That's going to make it more expensive. That'll affect housing costs, of course, as well as commercial costs where those are used for, you know, like site offices and so forth. Wow. Senate bill 141, another one that, that we reviewed. It would have exempted small municipal governments from energy code requirements. We liked that bill and we said yes to it. But of course, a good bill like that got killed in committee. Yes, Senate Bill 307, decarbonization tax credits administrative cash fund. We said no to that. That would have been a lot of excessive diversion of severance tax revenue for the purpose of decarbonization. This was a very confusing bill. It would have had a lot of transfers of funds from various accounts. There was even one large transfer that, if memory serves, I think it was $30 million that It would have transferred out of one fund in June and then back into the fund in January. I couldn't figure out what was going on. I think it must be just accounting tricks to make things look good. And that passed. And then the final bill that I. Yeah. The final bill. that I wanted to talk about was House Bill 1269, entitled Building Decarbonization Measures. Cut voted no on that one. The purpose would have been to require building owners to reduce energy usage. And we're talking about existing buildings. And it would have imposed large fines on building owners that did not meet those requirements. This bill was enacted, unfortunately. It does apply only to large commercial and large residential properties. And that application occurs when the building undergoes a renovation of over $500,000 or 25% of gross floor area. So my guess is that most building owners are going to not do renovations or they're going to make darn sure that they're under $500,000. So it's going to be very restrictive on building owners making improvements. It will impose a $400 annual fee. That will be inflated as time goes. And notice that's a fee. It's not a tax. And so those funds are taper exempt. It requires a $3 million appropriation and the board is authorized to issue revenue bonds. So that puts the state at greater financial risk. They will use that funding to offer financing and technical assistance to building owners. I guess that's a good thing, but of course it comes with interest applied to the building owners. The task force would be set up to run this thing, um, unelected governor appointed. They would set goals. They would, uh, determine feasibility of owner upgrades. Um, they would set specific building performance targets. So these would be set on a building by building basis, which sounds good, but it's open to, you know, interpretation and it's open to, um, graft and corruption. individualized compliance methods. So, you know, they could ultimately offer favor to their, you know, preferred people and clamp down on others. The bench date for comparative energy consumption for each of these buildings was determined to be May 2019. So as As a building owner would look at making improvements, he would have to compare the expected energy consumption with that which was in 2019. That's what that means. They would be authorized to issue grants to building owners for this, another avenue for graft and corruption. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and big penalties for noncompliance, if you have a first violation, it would be $500 plus $2,300 per month before you get the problem solved. And if there's a subsequent violation, it would go to $5,800 per month. So that's a lot of money for a building owner to be paying out at the same time that his building may not even be occupied.
SPEAKER 17 :
Goodness.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exemption. Yeah, go ahead. No. What's the exemption? I was going to say there's an interesting exemption for meeting wildfire resiliency code. I'm not sure why that's in there, but they put it in there. Um, safety clause. So it happens immediately. Um, and I was going to mention that the sponsors were in entirely in the democratic party. And, um, We're supposed to be a nonpartisan group, and so I can't say that the Democrats were behind all these bills. But just a word to the wise there.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dave Evans, this is so informative. And what this means is, and I think to boil this down, is that this is not business-friendly whatsoever. But it also, as you mentioned, it is open to grift. And that is that everybody has to pay these fees in, and then an unelected task force is going to determine who might get these grants. And it could be selective enforcement agencies. This is the opposite of what is supposed to happen in America. And so much happened down at the Statehouse that people don't have any idea. But I appreciate you really drilling down on these things that affect building because this affects the prosperity of Colorado. So I so appreciate it. Thank you, Dave Evans. And it is so great to have you as a fellow volunteer board member at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you're welcome, Kim. And again, it's been my pleasure and it's been a real education for me too.
SPEAKER 17 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Father's Day is right around the corner, and a great gift to honor your father or your husband's military service would be to buy a brick that will be on the pathways of service at the USMC Memorial as they are doing their remodel. And you can get more information about doing that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have on the line with me Bob Boswell. He is the CEO of Laramie Energy and a great sponsor of the show and wanted to talk about energy policy and Trump. So welcome, Bob Boswell.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I'm hoping that we have lots of good news regarding reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy here in America. So what's going on with Trump and oil, natural gas and coal?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, improvements. Slow. They'll be slow, but the rate of change that President Trump and our Energy Secretary Chris Wright from Colorado are attempting to implement is much faster than any other administration in terms of policy changes. And, you know, what President Trump and and Secretary Wright are attempting to do is to open back up federal lands for leasing for development. They were literally shut down under Biden to the largest degree. They are also changing regulations at the federal level where they can to improve the ability to develop these minerals and both on the oil and gas side and on the mineral side. So it's an opening up of these resources for development in America so that we aren't as dependent upon outside sources, particularly when you look at sources of minerals for development, lithium batteries, et cetera, transistors. We're going to start developing these. Basic mineral is more in the U.S. than we have in a long time. So a lot of good things going on a number of fronts. The problem or the issue we have in Colorado is that the governor is putting on a mandate that we eliminate fossil fuels by a certain point in time, which is not realistic, trying to follow the California pattern, which I believe is now the Supreme Court has found is a – uh, a illegal type of mandate. Uh, and I think that will filter down into the Colorado side. So good news on the Colorado front at the federal level, we still have issues, um, on the, uh, call it on the Colorado, the state side, um, uh, we're having, uh, piled on regulations and fees. Um, you know, I think to get around the Tabor act, the, uh, The state is now doing enterprise fees. We've had some, I think, over 20 enterprise fees, which are really taxes implemented, and it's affecting business in Colorado to the detriment of Colorado to a large extent simply by going around the Tabor Act legislatively because the Democrats control both the House and the Senate. of the legislature in Colorado.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and Bob, I have this volunteer gig as president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and I think Coloradans have no idea the amount of legislation which is being passed. There was over 733 bills and resolutions that were introduced this last legislative session. And there are multiple pieces of legislation that are passed that are just trying to undercut reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources from oil, natural gas, and coal. And the other thing that's interesting, though, is that these Democrats that want to prevent us from having this reliable, efficient, affordable, abundant energy sources seem to be all in on these data centers and providing power for that. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think it's idiotic that they are trying to promote data centers and then at the same time trying to change the sources of energy. There is a coming wave of artificial intelligence that's going to greatly impact society worldwide in as early as the next 10 years. And these data centers, which run the AI, the artificial intelligence, consume huge amounts of power. The state of Colorado is probably the sixth largest provider of oil and natural gas in the country, and we have a government that's trying to stifle that and at the same time try to advocate for data centers. So it's a complete juxtaposition of what could be done on the policy front. The data centers need clean, reliable, affordable energy. That does not come from renewables. The best technology on the horizon will be nuclear. But nuclear today, given it takes 17 years generally to get nuclear power plants authorized, and hopefully that will change under the Trump administration, is not going to be effective to a great degree over the next 10 years. So we're going to need to depend upon coal, natural gas, and oil as the sources of energy for these huge data centers. And I don't know that we fully understand the impact of the data center and artificial intelligence. It will have great advantages, but it will also have some great risks as these computers now, and they can now learn from themselves and they can generate ideas. People can use them, um, positively or negatively. There's a lot of disinformation that has been put out and a lot of it generated more recently from images of people and places and things. There are total fabrications. There are projected images from data that can make a The picture of President Trump, you know, throwing fireballs off a roof look as though it's real just simply because of the power of this artificial intelligence. So it's a. It's a coming wave. It's here. It's global. We have the leadership and the technical innovation capacity to really almost dominate this worldwide, but it needs to be used positively. Technology is power, and political utilization of it can be a positive or a negative, and it's something we've got to be very – very cognizant of, manage well, that the demands for power are going to be significant and the best sources of clean, reliable are our traditional fossil fuels.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and Bob, it's so frustrating, the discounting of the prosperity of everyday people. And, gosh, to be able to control our climates, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And in the old days, and I know Chris Wright has talked about energy poverty, that bringing people out of energy poverty so women in third world countries, much of their day might be used just to find fuel to burn. so that they can warm their huts and cook. And so it seems like there are those that want to push everyday Americans back to third world country status instead of looking at third world countries and wanting to reduce their energy poverty and help their prosperity because reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy helps people thrive and prosper. And that is something that's really difficult to match up is those that would not want to get people out of energy poverty but push us into energy poverty.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, again, I think technology is power. Secretary Wright has written extensively on bettering human lives, and the foundation, the base of that is providing clean, reliable energy. And he's shown that to be so important in bringing these different areas of the world out of poverty. And the We have made progress over the years, but there's so much more opportunity, particularly with 8 billion people or so on this planet at this point in time. To be able to bring them the conveniences of modern living and to uplift them out of poverty is a noble objective and something that we should be leaders on. As I've said, policy we can use for good or can be used for bad. And I think some of these policies that have been put in, you know, trying to limit the development of energy worldwide has worked. has been negative as opposed to positive. And a lot of it manifests itself in the central government or trying to control. And they have the power to make things better or to try to control by keeping things in status quo.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and that's why this attack upon really everyday people's prosperity, particularly through energy and making it more expensive for us to access energy to fuel our lives, has been an important thing to shed light on. We're going to continue the discussion with Bob Boswell, but I did want to mention the Center for American Values today at 4 o'clock down at the center in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. There will be an On Values presentation, which will be most interesting, regarding J.E. Chostner. And he is a Pueblo native. He is a veteran and also either former DA or DA. And he's going to be talking about military service and how that helps him with his everyday life now. And so for more information on that, go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And then regarding anything mortgages, you want to reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. The text line is 720-605-0647 and do want to hear from you. And I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So, Bob Boswell, you and I both realize that elections really have consequences. And the fact that Donald Trump's been elected and is in office and is making these improvements for our oil, natural gas and coal industries, it takes time. But yet you can't just turn a switch on elections. oil and gas exploration. So opening up these federal lands is exciting. However, I've got to think as, you know, regarding exploration and development, you want to make sure that you have some assurances that in four years or three years, things are not going to change. So talk to me a
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These policies, when implemented, both those that promote development and those that try to inhibit it, are different. To start up and put policies in that expand leasing and expedite permitting, those are positives, but it takes time to react to start up the actual development. However, the shutting down, the changing of those policies to stop leasing and to try to stop permitting, those can be almost immediate. So it's important that we continue to have constructive policy at the federal level and the state level. You know, we've been able to. do things in a short while at the federal level to take away some of the, to open up leasing. And they'll have to come up with a set of policies in each area. But 70% of the lands in the West, including Colorado, are federal. And those will take time. And then they are also needing to expedite permitting, and there's state and federal laws, and the state levels in Colorado are more prohibitive than the federal. So those will take times to work through. But one of the things they've done is they're accelerating the phase-out of the clean energy spending, the inflation reduction acts, which was simply to promote solar and wind and to degree a little bit of geothermal and hydrogen. which are much more expensive type of energy supplies. But they're taking some of those incentives away, which are going to save some $560 billion, over half a trillion dollars over the next decade. So they're taking away some of these inconsistent incentives to develop unreliable power. which will, I think, direct more towards the development of our more reliable and consistent types of fuels, such as oil and gas. You know, in the state of Colorado, as an example, Kim, we operate in a little community called Colburn in western Colorado, and the state is now wanting to build a new school. And this is the town... a community that has a couple thousand people in the district. They're wanting to take an existing school, and they're already doing it, and they dedicate some $70 million to build this school, which is much nicer than the prefabs I went to, into a new, more modern facility. And there's only 250 students that go to this school, but they're spending $70 million. In this area, Laramie Energy provides 70% of the tax revenue to support the schools and other elements in this community. They are putting in rules and regulations that make the production of our oil and gas in this area more expensive. And that more expensive will mean less revenues that go towards the payment of these taxes. And we've worked with a couple of different groups to see what does this cost and what's the impact on the community. And to the extent we don't continue to build, it'll raise the property taxes of these predominantly farmers and ranchers in this area by four times. You know, totally a misguided policy, misuse of state funds with good intention, but without the reality of the this small community and its capabilities and actual needs.
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So did you say they want to build a $70 million school for 250 students?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. I mean, they are doing that right now. And the community didn't realize what this meant. They didn't realize the impact on their taxes. But it was approved. The state is contributing money. $40 million in building funds for this. The community has to support $30 million, but $70 million. That's $40 million of taxpayer dollars going to supplement an area that there's only 250 students in the whole school. $70 million. That's $280,000 per student.
SPEAKER 17 :
This is crazy.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it is crazy.
SPEAKER 17 :
So did the people of this community vote yes on this to make this happen?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, but they didn't realize what it meant. And they didn't realize that these are bogs that are being put out there and the money has to be paid back. I mean, it was totally just this is a great idea. The state's going to put $40 million into this. uh, the school. And, uh, we've got this advisory to the state that's coming up with this plan to build this, uh, and improve this facility that's in existence there, but $70 million. And we've talked to the community. They're now understanding that, uh, you know, they, I, you know, they're at a point in our return because it's, it's under construction. Uh, but, uh, that's the type of thing that, um, is going on at the state level, and it just further suppresses the profitability of these farms and ranches, predominantly agriculture in the area.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and that just brings up a whole other issue that we talk about regularly on the show, and that is property taxes. And if property taxes, you said, if that goes up four times, that makes it more difficult for our farmers and ranchers to operate, which that affects our food supply. And we talk on a regular basis about the people that feed and fuel us. These are the things that we've taken for granted. There's an affordable and abundant food supply and reliable and affordable energy. All these things are under attack. And people are going to have to really... start to look at the consequences of these elections. That's for sure. Bob Boswell, we have about a minute left. I always learn so much. I think that on a federal level, national level, that the radical Democrats are going to try to put sand in the gears to slow everything down that Trump is going to try to get accomplished. He doesn't seem like he's taken his foot off the pedal. So I'm optimistic about that. What's your thoughts?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I'm optimistic. I look at his cabinet and the appointees. Our own Chris Wright is now Secretary of Energy, and he's an MIT scholar. He's a brilliant mind. He's run several different companies very successfully, and he's, I think, indicative of the cabinet that the president's appointed. So you've got some people who understand business, understand finance, uh, humanity, they understand, uh, policy. And, uh, so I'm, I'm very, very optimistic on that front. I'm disappointed on the democratic side. I'm disappointed in our, you know, Senator Hickenlooper comes out attacking these policies, uh, just using the typical democratic rhetoric. Uh, you know, I'm, I understand now that, you know, our Senator Bennett's going to come back and run for governor. I hope it's not a continuation of the poor policies that have been implemented under the Polis regime, and I hope we get more balance in the state. I think whether you're a Democrat or Republican, you want good balance, and you don't want the extreme polarization that we have today at both the federal level and the state level. We need leaders that want to work together that aren't looking at just their own personal interests and but are looking at what is best for the state and for the country.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. Bob Boswell, thank you so much. We'll talk with you next month. And, my friends, we will be back for hour number two. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe. Happy Wednesday, Kim. And that was a super informative hour number one with Bob Boswell with Laramie Energy. And you can hear that today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. This hour, second hour, is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. Live. And let's see, that's on all of our platforms. KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And you can say Alexa, play KLZ as well. And check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And make sure that you're signed up for our weekly email newsletter. You can do that at the website. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea. Shouldn't have to force people to do it. And force comes in a whole bunch of different ways and packages. Our word of the day is erudite. And it is spelled E-R-U-D-I-T-E. Thank you, Richard, for your suggestion. Could be having or showing great knowledge or learning. Synonym could be learned. It could be characterized by extensive reading or knowledge and scholarly. And I would say that the founders were very erudite as they were sitting down to work on this Declaration of Independence article. our independence as well as our constitution. And we'll talk with Trent Luce today regarding how can we fund a government without property taxes? And what is the proper role of government? So you will want to stay tuned on that. Our quote of the day is from Albert Einstein. And I typically will get these quotes from A to Z quotes. And I am wondering if he really said this, but I thought it was, it's attributed to him. And Albert Einstein was born in 1879, died in 1955. He was a German-born theoretical physicist who's best known for developing the theory of relativity. But he said this, or attributed to have said this, artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. And, you know, that's one of the things that we I think it became politically incorrect to call things stupid. But I'm sorry about this little town. And it's not just you. It was all of these different school bonds that were passed. But my friends have this little town in western Colorado. Build a $70 million school building. And the state's going to put in $40 million, so that's all of us. The community, $30 million, but their property taxes are going to go up. That's $280,000 per student. And so many of our students cannot read and write and do arithmetic. And what used to happen out on the plains of Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado, these little one- and two-room schoolhouses, these young people could solve stuff. They could read. They understood things. And if you don't believe me, do a quick web search on Saline County, Kansas, 8th grade exam from 1895. And that was what was occurring in a little two-room schoolhouse, not a $70 million schoolhouse. And we've got to get a little bit smarter on these taxes, my friend, and we will be shedding more and more light on all of that on a regular basis. And, um, regarding, regarding, um, mortgages, interest rates, Lauren Levy is an expert and he works with a number of different companies, which is great because that's, that's all kinds of choice. And he can help you in 49 of the 50 States, just not New York. So all kinds of choice. And I'm so pleased to have him as a sponsor of the show. Lauren Levy. Welcome.
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Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and what's the latest? What do we need to know?
SPEAKER 06 :
So, you know, we've been in this range, basically what I would call a news-driven range here for a little bit with – that you and I have spoken about quite a bit lately with the tariffs primarily being the driver of, you know, when there's a possibility like recently we saw of increased tariffs on the European Union. you know, the 10-year yield went up and then there was a pause on that and the 10-year yield came down. So rates have kind of been just kind of gyrating up and down a little bit based on the news, but they're definitely on the higher end of where they've been. You know, so we're looking at, you know, just shy of the seven range or just over it, depending on the loan and the credit score and things like that. Having said that, there is a way more inventory on the market, a lot more houses for sale this time of year, a lot more choice. So there is activity in our If people are looking to move, there is opportunities for them and options. So we're trying to do our best just to stay in touch with our people that we have out looking that have been pre-qualified to let them stay current on the rates so that they're prepared when they do find that home.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, Lorne, I was so concerned when there was no inventory, and now should I be concerned that there's a lot of inventory regarding housing?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know about so concerned. I mean, you need inventory to have a balance, right? In a perfect world, it's not a seller's market or a buyer's market. It's just a free market, right? And so you need a balance, which is getting closer. We're not there yet. But when there was no inventory, it's a straight seller's market, and the prices just keep getting bid up on multiple bids, and that can lead to a situation. Here, at least, we have more inventory, more choice. But you are also seeing some houses that maybe aren't exactly priced properly or sellers are still thinking it's six months ago. where they're having to reduce their price, you know, as they don't get offers. So that's how things get back into balance. And over time, we've seen, shoot, over the last 20 years I've been, or 25 years I've been in this business, I've seen a seller's market, I've seen buyer's market, then I've seen seller's market. So things tend to go, you know, they kind of go in waves, and we'll just see where it goes.
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So there's many people that have thought that homeownership was out of reach. And, of course, we see from a public policy standpoint here in Colorado the favorable regulations, favorable permitting, favorable interest rates for rental units, hence these regulations. four- and five-story rental buildings up and down the corridor, transit corridor, because policymakers, that's what they envision people should do is live in these apartment buildings and ride around on trains and buses and bicycles. But people, I think for those that want, and if you want that lifestyle, that's great, but it shouldn't be coerced. It shouldn't be forced. And it shouldn't be using public policy to make homeownership more expensive. So I think that the increased inventory should be great for people that want to try to get out of rental units and into homes, yes?
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I agree because there's just more choice. And when, and when that happens, there's an opportunity there because you can come in as a buyer and potentially get it for, you know, a little bit better of a price that might fit your budget better. It's funny. I think of you all the time in the conversations we have came because I was watching something yesterday about the city of Lakewood and how they approved a 400 unit apartment building somewhere where there was a lot of back and forth with the public. And it's like another 400 unit apartment complex, you know? Um, Just just what's needed. So you're right. And, you know, but you're not going to make any money unless you own the apartment complex, you know, renting. But that might fit your need if you're if you're transitory or, you know, on the move or not sure where you want to be. But everyone I know that's ever owned a home. for more than a very brief period of time has made a good return on that home. So I'm with you. I think it's a great way to develop wealth, and if you can afford it, I think you need to have a conversation with someone like myself and my team. Make sure you're getting into something you can afford and doing it right. But if you can, I would always recommend homeownership at some level.
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Well, and there are creative ways for families, for parents to help kids get into that first home as well, yes? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. There's gifting, there's co-signing, there's a lot of different ways to do it. And on top of that, as the market turns and if the prices start to stabilize or pull back ever so slightly or you have more inventory, you're going to have sellers that need to get creative as well. And that's when we get into the interest rate buy-downs and things like that where sellers are willing to help. people get a lower rate as part of the deal. So that will show its face much more as inventory stays high and people look to sell. So there's opportunities like we always talk about. If you're interested in buying, I would not just let the simple rate drive your decision. I would talk to us and see if we can help you figure out a way to get in the house you want.
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Okay. What's that number to give you a call, Lorne Levy?
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Always just call 303-880-8881.
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And that's for Everything Mortgages, Lauren Levy, 303-880-8881. Lauren, thank you, and we'll talk next week.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. Thank you, Kim.
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Salute the ones who died.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And Father's Day is right around the corner, and a beautiful gift would be to buy a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service at the USMC Memorial as they are doing their remodel. You will receive a beautiful certificate for that, and it is a lovely, lovely gift. And you can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is Trent Luce, sixth-generation farmer and rancher, continuing to shed light on the issues that are facing the people that feed and fuel us. And we have taken for granted abundant and affordable energy, abundant and affordable food sources. That is all under attack. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
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Thanks, Kim. I hope you had, and I know you did, a tremendously thoughtful Memorial Day 2025.
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I did. I did. And very reflective. I read a really interesting article yesterday about, do you say happy Memorial Day? And there's no way that you can say happy Memorial Day because what Memorial Day is, it's a time of reflection. of those that have given their lives. As I think somebody said, some gave all and some gave some, but those that have come back and had injuries from serving our country. And it's a time to reflect and make sure that we say thank you in our hearts for that. So yeah, it was very reflective, and I'm sure it was for you as well.
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It was, and including my guest on Trent on the Loose, who I asked her to join me and read a letter she had written. A lady named Gammy did a fabulous job with this letter and putting it into context about those that lost their lives. What do they think about what we're sitting back letting happen today? And I know you mentioned, you said that I'm on the line with you, and I was thinking about how you you position that we are on the line together fighting for these freedoms. And Kim, too many people in the last three years looked me in the eye, most of them being veterans, with tears streaming, just kind of creeping out of their eyes, saying that I wonder if it was worth it. And when we have people who are asking the question, I wonder if it was worth it, that tells me that I got to do more because it's absolutely worth it. We wouldn't have a chance if it had not been for that sacrifice. And we do. And we have the ability to grab this thing and drive our free future. But only when we engage and don't sit back and take for granted, like you said, food and fuel, but also the sacrifice of the generations before us have enabled us to live the greatest experience of life anybody on the planet has.
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Well, and I'm convinced that we are in the third founding of our country. 250 years ago at this particular point in time, 1775, things were pretty hot that summer. And that's when the – gosh, I was thinking that was – I think it was when the Marines were founded as well. So there was a lot of stuff happening before we were a country. And, of course, there was the right of Paul Revere. And this this year, 1775, the battles of Lexington and Concord, things were getting very hot at this particular point in time. And these folks put it all on the line for liberty. And what is liberty? It's the responsible exercise of freedom. And we've become very irresponsible in our exercise of freedom. We've become fat and happy. We think that this is all going to be here just because of the sacrifices of those that they've given to fight for liberty. And it's our time. And it was easier, I think. when you could look at that physical enemy and say, oh, those are the people that are trying to take away liberty. Now they have on suits and dresses, and they are politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that have been working to take away our freedoms, Trent Luce.
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You mentioned Paul Revere, but why did you leave Sybil Luddington out of the equation?
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Tell me who that is.
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She was the 16-year-old young lady that rode twice as far and alerted twice as many people as Paul Revere did. We all talk about Paul Revere, but we never talk about Sybil. It's spelled S-Y-B-I-L, Sybil Revere.
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Well, and apparently Henry Wadsworth Longfellow realized that the poem, The Ride of Paul Revere, was not totally accurate, that there were others that were writing that night as well. But he did this more as a marketing thing to get people interested in freedom. And so, again, even marketing back then turned loose.
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You know, just think about that. How much of our historical information we have is a result of marketing as opposed to the factual information. And interestingly enough, I sat on a plane one day into Denver next to Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's grandson.
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Cool.
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Yeah, it was really interesting. And it was interesting to talk to him. And, you know, apparently there's a bridge in Boston somewhere. named Longfellow Bridge. So he said that he's run into a lot of people are like, oh, so you're named after that bridge.
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Yeah, people don't know our history.
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I know that is the problem.
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So, Trent, we want to talk about something so important, and that is property taxes. I'm going to ask you, have you connected with Sean Pond by any chance out on the Western Slope? Okay, we've got to get you guys connected. I was out – oh, gosh – This was, Josh Lowenstein had put together a, now I've got to get the exact title, but basically this was before the election, and Biden, using national monument designations, was trying to grab all of this land. And Sean Pond and Josh Lowenstein just got very involved in this, and apparently Sean just got elected recently as a Montrose County Commissioner. And he has written a piece about the danger of us being just not vigilant on what's happening by our local electeds not standing up for property rights. So I'm going to try to get him on next week. But all of this is connected because Bob Boswell was on in our number one with Laramie Energy. And I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. But he said a little town that they have natural gas development in out on the western slope, that this little town got talked into a new $70 million school. The state said they put in $40 billion. The residents apparently voted to fund another $30 million. They only have 250 students. That's $280,000 per student. And their property taxes are going to go up significantly. And this is not smart. I'm sure some smooth marketer came in and talked them into this. But... I don't think you need a $70 million school to teach kids how to read and write and do arithmetic, but a $70 million school is going to be a real assault upon property through property taxes, Trent.
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Josh did send me that article you're speaking of, and I've had a week where I've actually minimized my screen time greatly, and so I have not had the opportunity to read that yet, but I will and follow up on it. And what you're describing is not just a a rare occurrence. We've got a school within 15 miles of us that is, again, under another bond, and again, they pass them. I don't understand why the property tax situation is the way that it is. The lack of education that we provide, no matter how many billions of dollars we put into the school the kids walk into, the culture is not right, the educational system is not right. And we're breaking, literally breaking, financially breaking the people that fund all of this to happen. It must be turned around. I did look this up. I know that our particular school district in our county, 71% of the property tax that we pay goes to the school. And statewide in Colorado, apparently in 2024, it was about 55% of the property tax paid goes to fund the school. That's one of the lower in the entire nation. Most states, I know that Wyoming is 62%. I know that because they did have a tax break for residential property that was a success story in Wyoming this year, one of the few. But we can no longer afford what is taking place. And I applaud you for seeking the right solution to reduce this property tax because it's not just property taxes. Every one of our taxes go up. You talk about Paul Revere and Sybil Lovington. Taxation without representation pales in comparison 250 years ago to what we have today.
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Absolutely. That is for sure, Trent Luce. So we're going to delve more into this whole thing regarding taxation, proper role of government, how do we fund the government. And so just stay tuned. And all these discussions happen because of our sponsors. And something else that's under attack is our right to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors. And that's why I'm so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as a sponsor of the show.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And today, four o'clock down at the Center for American Values in Pueblo, Jeff Chosner will be on values speaker today. And he's going to be talking about how his military career helped him become a success as he's a Pueblo native, but also as a district attorney. So be sure and check that out. And on the line with me is let me give you that Web site. It is American Value Center dot org. So, Trent Luce, there's a proper role of government, and we're way out of the proper role of government on the local, county, state, and national level, so much so that this insatiable desire for more and more of our property The fruits of our labor through taxes and fees is making us slaves to the government. And our country was founded on too much taxation. And we're just we're at that limit right now. So what first of all, the proper role of the federal government, I think, is laid out in the preamble of the Constitution. And granted, it's somewhat of a wide range, but it's to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and that doesn't mean taking one from one person to give to another, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. So that's the proper role of the federal government. Agree?
SPEAKER 10 :
A hundred percent. And I'm going to break it down to two things. I think 2026, the federal government should be responsible for a military, which includes protecting our borders and guiding and making sure that we have a currency that is fluid among all 50 states. Aside from that, the federal government needs to disappear.
SPEAKER 17 :
What about courts? What about judicial courts?
SPEAKER 10 :
You mean the judicial – how is that working? That's not working either. Where we have a justice system, we've got to restructure that as well. We do not need a federal government for a judicial system. Why do we need a federal crime? We can handle all of these issues within states and local districts, counties, including roads.
SPEAKER 17 :
So how are we going to fund this?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, first of all, if we get rid of the federal government and we eliminate property taxes, as we know, we've got to look at where those property taxes go. And property taxes, the lion's share of that is education. We shift education to be funded by the people who are sending kids to the school. There is nothing in the Constitution. I've read the 14th Amendment. I've listened to court interpretations of the 14th Amendment. There's nothing in the Constitution that says your kid is going to be given a publicly funded education. And that's where the bulk of the money is going, if you really look at the tax dollars we spent. And then if you look at the results of what we're getting for the bulk of that money, it's pretty embarrassing. If any business... was as successful at educating and preparing our nation's youth for the future, equal to what that of the school is, they would be out of business, broke and gone. We have private schools, you have charter schools that are doing a fantastic job. Why do we need to have public education funded by the taxpayers?
SPEAKER 17 :
So this would be a major disruption to change. How are we going to get from where we are now to where you're saying we need to get to? How is that going to happen?
SPEAKER 10 :
There's only one way, and that is starve the funding. The only way this is going to happen is that they do not have access to our money at an unlimited rate, which is currently taking place. So how do we start starving the system to enact what we see as a viable option? But you get the whole problem, and I think it was perfect that you set this up this way. Here in this small school district of the western slope of Colorado, people willingly go vote and say, we want to increase our payment to the school by millions of dollars for what outcome? But keep in mind, and this is something you've been banging the drum on for a long time, we're assuming that the vote was accurate. I have lost faith in the accuracy of our voting system longer ago than I actually realized. And so what if that vote is as skewed as the presidential election of 2020? How does that change everything? Because did people actually go say we want to spend – millions of dollars in a small school district?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, that is a really important question. I've been thinking about it over this weekend because, as you know, Trent, we've raised money for a couple of lawsuits that are out there regarding our elections. And then there is a new report regarding something that happened in Arapahoe County which I don't totally have my brain around what happened exactly. But so let's say this is, this is going to, this is a really, um, Dangerous place for us to go. If we find out that these elections have not been accurate and that even if some stuff has happened with these elections, will that negate then the results of those elections? So apparently this school is under construction. Seventy million dollars under construction. What if the people didn't vote for that? Will that grind to a halt? What about and I guess one of the questions that is regarding this Arapahoe question is the repeal of the Gallagher Amendment. And that was an issue that, in my voter's guide, we took a strong no position on repealing the Gallagher Amendment because that was guardrails that had been put in place regarding residential property taxes. And there were Republicans that were being paid to encourage people to vote for getting rid of the Gallagher Amendment. And what I've also learned here in Colorado is there is a Republican consultant class that they really don't want to solve the problems. And they may not even really want candidates to win. They just want to have elections and campaigns because they will make money one way or another. So they don't really care about solving the problems of Colorado. And I think that's one of the reasons that we've gotten to the position that we're in right now, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, everybody needs to understand. I don't care what your party politics are. If you have a representative republic that is fundamentally flawed with the accuracy of the elections, you have nothing.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's why the work that we're doing regarding elections is so important. I know that there's things happening in other states, but I really think that Colorado is is at the tip of the spear on a lot of this. So let's say, just posit this as a question, that we do find out that the passage of getting rid of the Gallagher Amendment, that there was some weird stuff going on with the election, but yet we've had all these jurisdictions that have gotten this increased tax revenue. Shouldn't they have to give that back then?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
So where are you going to stop? How many things have been determined by an election? How many ballot initiatives have been determined by an election? And it seems to me that if you go look back, particularly since I can attest to since the Reagan era, that we're given just enough things to keep us in the hope that the elections are fair and have integrity and And then you have that whole hanging Chad thing. And if we think back to what that really meant and what that was about, that doesn't make any sense today in 2025, thinking back to that situation. And yet how many new rules and laws came about in voting because of that one situation in Florida on a presidential election? I think we've been duped for a long time.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and so, as you mentioned, if we don't have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, then we have nothing. And that is why I'm really focused on working on this. If people, fair and square, voted for radical activist Marxism... Okay, I guess that's what it is. But I do not believe that the people of America, that that's really where we're at. Of course, we're seeing poll numbers that are showing that people are pleased with the direction that Trump is taking regarding America. A lot of the things to get, I think, the federal government back into its proper role. Now, I always want him to stay within the confines of the Constitution. And I talked with somebody regarding his executive order on elections. And both, I talked to two different people. and both of them very involved in watching our elections. And they said that they were very pleased with that executive order, that in fact that he was staying within the confines of the Constitution. And as much as we like many of the things that Trump may be doing, we want to make sure that he stays within the confines of the Constitution on all of this. And then the other thing is, and you know I've talked about this regularly, is that, well, the idea of America is that we're all created equal. And so with that, that means that nobody gets special deals. Nobody gets special tax incentives. Nobody gets special tax breaks. Nobody gets grants from the government to do things. Everybody needs to compete with their best ideas in a free market. And that is what was so great about America up until... like 1914 or whatever those progressive amendments were passed. So we're going to continue the discussion with Trent Luce. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, reach out to John Bozen. Oops. Yep. John Bozen with Bozen Law.
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SPEAKER 17 :
It is a great day to be alive. Be sure to check out our website. That's KimMunson.com. I'm talking with Trent Luce. We're talking about proper role of government, getting government back, and it's the role it's supposed to be providing. And Trent, producer Joe had a great idea on one of the first things to do to get government back in its proper role and defund it is to get rid of the payroll system. automatic payroll deduction. I think that that's an excellent idea. What do you think?
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree 100%. But I also want to challenge you on something you said. Where in the Constitution is the provision to give the president authority to do an executive order?
SPEAKER 17 :
I don't know the answer to that, but I will.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's unconstitutional.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
If he was actually a constitutional president, he would have issued an executive order first right the first day saying executive orders are not constitutional. Every previous executive order that's ever been established is null and void.
SPEAKER 17 :
But that would have been an executive order. But that would have been an executive order. Anyway, we'll talk about that maybe next week.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's so many things happening right now that are so damaging to liberty by this guy that's running the country like a king. I hope people start recognizing what's actually taking place. And I was just been bombarded this morning with information on what he's doing in the steel industry that mirrors what happens in Russia or happened in Russia in terms of communism. And I got to go get the details. But when that number of people send me notes at that level, I know something's going on.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, well, we'll stay tuned. There are a lot of things I've talked with Lorne Fix and what's happening over in the auto industry. I've been very happy with that. And things that are happening in the energy industry, happy with that. So we will continue that discussion next week. We have Gammy on the line. Gammy, a couple of minutes. What's on your radar?
SPEAKER 19 :
Good morning, and thank you both for being my friend and for that opportunity, Trent. It was an honor. Thank you very much. Now, let me get right to it. I think you need to have a two-hour show on that. If people got falsely elected and then passed a bunch of bills that are illegal, what do you do with it? I think you need two shows on it. And I found this from Grandparents for Kids newsletter this morning, Rocky Mountain Voice. Through the external outlet of the Denver Gazette, Denver public schools leased schools through Shell Corporation, hiding almost $1 billion in off-book financing. I'm going to read you just a few. Nicole Brambilla wrote it. Denver Public Schools transferred ownership of at least 31 schools to a shell corporation, then leased them back for hundreds of millions of dollars. Denver Public Schools has quietly taken on hundreds of millions of dollars in long-term debt without voter approval. money that could otherwise be used to lower class sizes, increase teacher pay, or expand student support services, an investigation by the Denver Gazette has found. The spending comes as contract negotiations between the district and the Denver Classroom Teachers Association have stalled with union leaders pointing to the district's failure to fully fund last year's cost of living adjustment. Educators have repeatedly called for smaller class sizes, better compensation, and stronger student support, the very priorities that advocates Advocates say are undermined by rising lease payments tied to long-term debt to bypass the Colorado Constitution's ban on assuming public debt without voter approval. DPS officials employed a workaround widely used in public finance circles but little understood by the public. transferring ownership of schools to a corporation then leasing the building back for hundreds of millions and it goes on and on and on to circumvent the voters i think we need to be looking into that local stuff
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, we really do. And let's just connect the dot that Michael Bennett, Senator Michael Bennett, was the superintendent of Denver Public Schools. And my understanding is that he had the support of Phil Anschutz to do that. So, okay. Thank you, Gammy. Jim Mays on the line. Jim, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning. Yeah, I've been listening. It was a good show this morning. And I really, really agree, Trent, with what you're saying about voter rights. identification voter fraud. I just I look at that just a couple comments and then a question but um you know I look at the 2020 election and there's no doubt in my mind that there's more votes in there than there were registered voters and when you look out on a graph I just don't see how anybody cannot see that but um in terms of voter ID and that it's you know that should be a law but You know, we have that technology now. I mean, every time I go to the airport, they scan my retina, and I know that you could build a system around a retina or a thumbprint and establish a media. Is that feasible, or is that something that people should look at? Maybe later on there would be fraud on it. The other side of it, I don't know.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, Jim, so technology, when it's used properly, is a great thing. But I'm concerned that at some point in time with all of this data, and I actually will move over to this side when I'm flying and say, you know, I prefer not to have my picture taken, although I think they've gotten me a couple of different times. But I'm concerned that ultimately this could be used – negatively towards people. And I love the fact that you understand the importance of technology, but I'm not comfortable with that. What do you think, Trent?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I love the fact that Jim asked you a question that he knows the answer to, and he knows the answer that retinal scanning is possible because it's very possible and being done with cattle all across this country. Which bodes another question that nobody seems to be asking, but he's asking it without asking it. If we know we can have an individual animal ID by scan of a retinal scan, which is easy to do, it's just as easy as scanning a tag that's in the cow's ear. Why do we have a federal government pushing for a radio frequency identification to plant in the ear of when in fact it already possesses an individual character as the retinal scan that could be done in cattle. Which then comes back to what you said, and there is not one single technology that can't be abused. I mean, just take it back to credit cards. When credit cards first came online, you mean I'm going to give you access to my bank account? Oh my goodness, that seems like, and nobody even talks about that anymore. Tim, you know, anytime you drive from Brighton to the airport, you get a letter in the mail saying that you just drove here. You got to pay $2.80 or whatever the number is. I just got one the other day. I was speaking in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and the buzz in Tulsa was that now the Cimarron Road, which runs from Enid to Tulsa, is a toll road. And guess who takes care of the billing for the toll road in Oklahoma? The Oklahoma prison system. So you have people in prison with access to your credit card. And we didn't go about it without any thought whatsoever. And we just want to continue to ratchet this up, making every bit of our privacy subject to somebody else's eyes.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, I think you're right.
SPEAKER 08 :
I knew the answer before I asked it, but I wanted to throw it out there anyway.
SPEAKER 17 :
And Jim, I have to say, I loved it. Did you hear the birds in the background? It made me... Made me want to be out in rural Colorado with all the stuff that's happening here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, but apparently he doesn't want to play five-card stud because his poker face isn't working so good today.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, Trent, we've got just about a couple of minutes left. And we are at an inflection point in our country right now. And the amount of money that's being taken of our fruits of our labor is so significant to feed this insatiable population. appetite for those that want to take away all of our property rights. And they are doing a lot of that through saying that they want to educate our children. Of course, we realize here in Colorado, our kids are not really learning how to read and write and do arithmetic, but they're learning how to question whether or not they're a boy or a girl. It's crazy here in Colorado. But we're in for the fight. Trent Luce, your final thought.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they're learning pretty rapidly how to use AI, and we continue to be told that we need to be the AI leader of the world, and apparently AI is more important, and that is the absolute best mechanism for controlling people is controlling artificial intelligence. Why do we have such an appetite to remove land from individuals and feed them information that comes from central control?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and the key word there is central. And whenever you centralize something, then that means you're consolidating power. And again, the founders realized we wanted to have decentralized government. And it's been a long march to get to this point. And we need to decentralize government. We need to get government back in its proper role. And in order to do that, we need to understand what that proper role is. And it's all laid out in the vision of our Declaration and our Constitution. And I've got homework this week. I've got to do a little bit of research on executive orders. So I will do that. Trent Luce, as always, I greatly appreciate the conversations. They are thought-provoking and very informative. So thank you so much.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks, Kim. Can't wait for the homework to come in.
SPEAKER 17 :
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