In this episode, experience the assurance of God’s unfailing love. Delve into the various aspects of love as defined in the Bible and learn about the importance of divine viewpoint thinking. Understand how unwavering confidence in God’s love can act as your greatest defense mechanism, empowering you to live a life free of fear and guilt. With a focus on the immutable love that God offers, Rick outlines practical insights to help navigate life’s challenges with faith and humility.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flotline, Flot, F-L-O-T. I'm Rick Hughes, your host, and for the next few minutes, stick around. I repeated Flotline. Sometimes people get that mixed up and they think Flatline. It's not a Flatline. It's a Flotline. The FLOT line stands for the Forward Line of Troops. We're using a military analogy here to describe how the Christian life works. The Word of God forms a main line of resistance in your soul to stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside sources of stress. Adversity, as you well know, is unavoidable. I mean, it's going to happen. But stress is optional. It's up to you. You can refuse to give in to that sort of stuff. No need to worry. No need to be afraid. No need to live in guilt. No need to live in fear. That's not the Christian life. So the Flatline teaches you 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the Bible. And this is not something new. This is not some new discovery. This is not some book we're trying to sell you. This is simply something my pastor taught me many years ago. And when we learn these 10 unique biblical problem-solving devices, then we can use them to stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside source of stress. So that's why we always say God gave you two ends, one end you can think with and one end you can sit on. And success in your Christian life will depend on which one of those ends you use. Heads, you'll win. Tails, you'll lose. What does the Bible say about that? It says, let this mind be in you, that was also in Christ Jesus. That's telling you which end to use. Use your head. The Christian life is lived in your thoughts, in your brain. That's where your soul exists. And that's why the Bible says, as a man thinketh in himself, so he is. That's you. The real you is what you think. And the consideration is whether you're going to think divine viewpoint, which is based upon what the Bible teaches, or whether you're going to take human viewpoint, which is based on what your friends may tell you, or what the news may tell you, or what the world may tell you. But divine viewpoint is the way to think. That's why the Bible says in Romans 12, three, stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance, beyond what you should think, but think in terms of humility. as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. There's divine viewpoint thinking, thinking from his word. So let's remember that as we go through our studies. We're always talking about the spiritual life, And the spiritual life is lived with inside of you. That's what we do. We want you to orient and adjust to the spiritual life. If we can verify it and identify it, you can orient and adjust if you want to. Thank you for listening. We have our show now being podcast across America. on the various podcast venues such as Apple iPod or Spotify or Breaker or Anchor. Any of these podcast venues, you can pick up The Flot Line. Also, we began to offer transcriptions of our various messages that we give every Sunday morning on your radio station. And so if you'd like a transcription, we can email it to you or print it out and mail it to you, and you can read over it. We are printing a book now in the process. And it will include the whole year of 2019. All of the Flatline radio shows will be in print in three different books, four months at a time. And you can access that free of charge if you'd like. So just let us know. You can always go to our website, rickhughesministries.org, request any of the things that you need. We'll be glad to fulfill those requests at no charge ever. Okay, now here is the greatest truth that's ever been told. Absolutely, the number one greatest truth that's ever been told. Here it is, God loves you. You say, me? That's right, God loves you. Now, my particular pastor spent a lot of years talking about the unfailing love of God, even wrote a book about the unfailing love of God. And it is something that taught me so many things about the love of God. God's love for us and our love for him. Many years ago, I remember reading about a lonely, abused teenage girl who allowed so many males to abuse her, and she said she did it because she was just looking for someone to love her. Well, I'm not trying to humanize our mighty God, but I'm taking this approach so that we can urge you to experience the reality of God's love in your life every day. That's what I'd like for you to realize. I'd like for you to come to realize that, that he's dealt with our sin, He's demonstrated mercy, mercy to those who accept the gift of Jesus Christ, sacrificial death on their behalf. And thus the guilt of all sin should be removed by faith alone in Christ alone. And it should be replaced with absolute confidence in his love for you. Now, you should know the mechanics of love, personal love, impersonal love. It's part of the problem-solving devices, problem-solving device number seven and number eight, the virtue of love. We call it the virtue love series, personal love for God, impersonal love for your neighbor. Now, I want you to experience not the mechanics but the confidence. the confidence of his love for you, and I would like for you to embrace that confidence, to grip it, to grasp it, receive it, and believe it and use it in your life. God truly does love you. The greatest truth ever been told. He demonstrates that with his compassion, with his patience, with his forgiveness, with his concern, with his protection, every moment of every day. If you don't believe me, listen to what Paul wrote in the Bible, Romans 8, 38 and 39, about God's patience, forgiveness, concern, protection, compassion. Here it is, Romans 8, 38 and 39. I am persuaded... That Greek word persuaded is pathio, P-E-I-T-H-O, pathio. I am persuaded or I have absolute confidence that neither death nor life nor angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come nor height nor depth nor any other creature shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. There are several words for love in the Bible. We're going to look at those, but this word is agape, agape. Oh, so nothing, nothing can separate you from the love of God. In 1 John 4, 8, John wrote, he that loveth not knoweth not God, because God is love. Now, God is justice and righteousness. We understand that. And what the What the righteousness of God rejects, the justice of God is forced to judge. But all of this is wrapped up in God is love. He loves you. He would judge you in love. He will forgive you in love. In John 5, 42, again, I know you, Jesus said to the religious leaders, you do not have the love of God in you. He could tell because of the way they acted, they didn't have it. In John 3, 16, a verse you're very familiar with, the reason God sent his son. God so loved the world that he gave his uniquely born son so that whoever believed in him would not have to perish. but have everlasting life. In this verse, God revealed himself to us with this one word, God so loved the world. The written word, the Bible, is his revelation to us of his divine character. That's where we learn about this amazing love that God has for you and for me. The Bible. Now let's say about the Bible, 2 Timothy 3.16. All scripture that's in the Bible is inspired by God and it's profitable for teaching and for reproof. for correction and for training in righteousness. That's why you hear me constantly referring to the Bible, to scripture, not human viewpoint, not rationalization, not some kind of empirical data, but the scripture, faith, this is what it is. All of the scriptures are inspired by God and profitable for teaching. When I'm teaching you that God loves you, that is for your profit. It is a wonderful problem-solving device. God loves you. In the faith rest drill, you can stand on those promises found in the Bible. In Proverbs 30, verse 5, every word of God is tested. That means every word of God is proven true. He, that's God, is a shield to those who take refuge in him. That's amazing. That's how much God loves you. He protects you. He watches over you. He blesses you. And many people, sadly, they don't think they can be loved. They think they've done something bad. They have the wrong view of what love really is. I don't know. Maybe that's you. Maybe you've done something that's absolutely horrible, and you know it is. and you feel like you're unlovable because of some failure in your life in the past. I don't care what you've done. I don't care where you are, free or not free. God loves you. In Romans 5.5, the Bible clearly says hope does not disappoint because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts by means of the Holy Spirit who was given to us. In 1 John 3, 1, behold what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us that we should be called the sons of God. If you have received Jesus Christ as your Savior, you are a son or a daughter of God by faith alone in Christ alone. That's the love God poured out on you. He made it available for you to be brought into his royal family. You know, when two people get married, they express their love for one another by the vows that they take and the tokens that they give. And their love for one another is really mesmerizing to each other. But that does not even come close to the love that God has for you. Because God's love would never vary, even in your darkest failures. His love never, ever varies. Do you remember the illustration our Lord Jesus Christ gave of the prodigal son who wasted everything on while living and came back home and said, Father, forgive me? And you remember how the father loved him and welcomed him back? This is exactly what happens through rebound in your life. You can get out of fellowship today. You can commit sin. You may be judged for your sin, just as the prodigal son was disciplined until he came to his senses and went home. But God never quits loving you. You may be involved in something right now that's dishonest. You may be involved in something right now that's immoral, but God loves you. He's not mad at you. He doesn't hate you. He loves you. And his token to you, just as a man and a woman would give a ring as a token, his token to you in demonstration of his love is this. Ephesians 1.13, this is what he gives you. In whom you also trusted, after that you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also after you believed, here it comes, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. God's guarantee mark on your life is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Now, the filling of the Holy Spirit is different. You can quench the Holy Spirit with your personal sin and grieve the Holy Spirit, but you can recover the filling of the Spirit by using problem-solving device number one, and that's the rebound technique where it says if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us. So, our point of reference for the operational spiritual life that we're trying to live is indeed the love of God. It's our security, it's our comfort, and coming from us, our love for God. There's the two different loves, the love of God for you and your love for him. The love of God, our security and our comfort, and our love for God, that is the greatest virtue that you could ever possess. Personal love for God is a tremendous virtue. That's why the Bible says, In 1 John 5, 3, if you love me, you will obey me, and my mandates are not hard. So ask yourself this question, okay? Does God really love you? Does he? Is that some kind of term that some biblical theory or can you really prove it? Does he really love you? And here's another question. Is this love something you can feel in your life? You can experience it, you know, emotions. Can you feel it? And can you get God to love you more? Can you get closer to him than you've ever been? And here's another question. Would you be jealous if God loved me more than he loved you? That's a good question. So here's some principles. The first one is this. The love of God never changes towards us. The love of God never changes towards us. He's immutable or unchangeable and it doesn't change. So there is no such thing, point two, as the diminishing of God's love because of our failure. So one, the love of God never changes towards us. And point two, there is no such thing as the diminishing of God's love because we fail. He loves you just as much in your failure as he does in your successes. You may walk away from God, but he will love you from behind. So point three, God's love for us will never and does never change, demonstrated by the cross. And point four, it maintains the same intensity. We cannot do anything to change God's love for us. Point five, he may approve of what you're doing. He may disapprove of what you're doing. But love or not never changes. It's not a matter of does he love you or not love you. It's a matter of does he approve of what you're doing or does he disapprove of what you're doing. So let's just start with this word, L-O-V-E, love. Most misused word in the world. You know, you have to watch out for a mouth full of teeth that says, I love you, baby. Look out. That's not love. That may be emotion, but that's probably not love. The characteristic of God is a tremendous problem-solving device. This love of God, a tremendous problem-solving device. But the real issue may not be, does God love you? The real issue may be, do you love him? That might be the issue. You know, Peter said in 1 Peter 1.8, whom having not seen, you love. Do you love God? I mean, we know he loves you, but do you love God? Let's look at these words in the Bible about love. Agape, the word we have in the Bible for love, the noun agape and the verb agapao. The verb agapao means to have a virtue-driven love. Your love for God is the greatest virtue you have. The cognitive noun is the word agape, characterized by devotion and respect in your life. What does the Bible say about respecting God? Does it have anything to say about that? You better believe it. Proverbs 1-7, Respect for the Lord is the beginning of knowledge. So a total soul love that you should have as virtue in your life is based on your respect and your reverence for God who loves you. A lack of love for God can be seen in your arrogant intelligence, artificially motivated by your own arrogance. Proverbs 3, 7 talks about this. Don't be wise in your own eyes. That's the delusional daydreamer we've talked about on this radio show. Wise in your own eyes is a person steeped in human viewpoint that thinks he knows all the answers. He doesn't believe the Bible is relevant to his life, or he or she may indeed be a Christian and just ignore the Bible and make decisions based on emotions. Every decision you make is going to be based on one of two things. It's either going to be based on what you think or what you feel. It has to be. There's no other way to make a decision. And if you are a daydreamer, deluded, you're probably going to make decisions based on what you feel. And so that's not necessarily the love of God. That's arrogant intelligence. So agapao, this is the verb, the one we're talking about, this wonderful love of God, respect for the Lord, is the beginning of knowledge. This is where all wisdom comes from. It starts with being respectful and reverential towards God himself and believing and understanding that God loves you and has a perfect plan for your life. But there's another word for love found in the Bible. It's always translated in English, L-O-V-E. But in the original manuscripts, it could be agapao, or it could be phileo, P-H-I-L-E-O, phileo. And we get the word Philadelphia from that. The word phileo, or to love, is used for an intimate love, and it means to have some sort of strong affection, to regard or treat someone as your own. And it's a love among members of a family. And this is interesting, that all discipline from God comes from family love. He loves us. We're in his family. So he doesn't discipline us because he hates us, and he doesn't discipline us because he's mad at us. He disciplines us in love, just as a parent would do to a child, trying to break the arrogant streak in the child and keep that child from self-destructing in their own life later because they can't handle authority. This is what every parent must do. They must orient their child to authority, and God does this as well. He punishes us in love. You don't believe that? Listen to Hebrews 12, 6. Those whom the Lord loves, agapao, he disciplines, and he scourges every son whom he receives. This love discipline keeps you and I from self-destructing if we will listen and take heed. This agapao is a specialized soul love which requires the filling of the Holy Spirit in our life And phileo is a complete and total soul love and rapport, and that's developed over a period of time. Those are words from my former pastor, Colonel R.B. Thame, Jr., who pastored his church in Houston, Texas, for 53 years. These are his words. Agapao is a specialized soul love which requires the filling of the Holy Spirit, and phileo being a complete and total soul love and rapport must be developed over a period of time. So principle, when love emphasizes the object, it's personal. And when it emphasizes the subject, it's impersonal. We have two loves, personal and impersonal. God loves you impersonally when it says God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. You were a sinner. You were in sin. And he gave his son who became your substitute on the cross. He was judged in your place. So on the cross, there's the judgment. Now, God allowed that to happen because he loved you. You were his creation. When you believe in Jesus Christ and receive him as your Savior, you're brought into the family of God by being given the righteousness of Christ. Listen again. He who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be made the righteousness of God through him. So when we receive that equivalent righteousness, Christ took our sin. He gives us his righteousness. Now this impersonal love that God has for us becomes personal. Now we're part of the family of God, and it's a personal love. It's amazing. There's another word in the Bible that we've given you two words, akapao and phileo. Now we're going to go to arao. Arao is the word, we get an English word from it, erotic. And that's a love of passion. And it's based on body chemistry. And it actually can control and seize control of your mind. You have to be very careful about erotic type stuff. I don't think there's anything as addictive as erotic images or what we know today as pornography, which is freely distributed over the social media today. It is one of the most addictive things in the world. And then there's another word for love, our fourth word, storge. S-T-O-R-G-E, storge. And that's translated in the Bible without natural affection. In Romans 1.31, in Romans 12.10, 2 Timothy 3.3, storge. No love without natural affection. So we have agapao, phileo, arao, and storge. Now, These four words are the words for love in the Greek New Testament. Now, the Greek New Testament doesn't use the word erao anywhere, but it's a Greek word. We know about that. So here's the question. What proof do you have that God loves you with his impersonal love? Because as someone once said, he knows me better than I know my own self, and he does. God knows you better than you know yourself. Did you realize that? Listen to what the Bible said in Psalm 139. Oh Lord, you have searched me and known me. David wrote this. You have searched me and known me. You know my sitting down and my rising up. You understand my thoughts from afar off, and you comprehended my path and my lying down, and you are acquainted with all of my ways. For there is not a word on my tongue, but behold, you, O Lord, know it altogether. God knows you better than you know yourself. and again in psalm 139 13 and 14 for you form my inward parts you covered me in my mother's womb i will praise you for i am fearfully and wonderfully made marvelous are your works and that my soul knows very well god knows you better than you know yourself Because you and I are a product of what we call a divine design. A divine design. In Jeremiah 29, 11 through 13, for I know the thoughts that I think towards you, God said. That's the divine design. Says the Lord, I think of peace and not of evil. I think to give you a future and a hope. And then you will call upon me and go and pray to me and I will listen to you and you will seek me and find me when you search for me with all of your heart. I hope that's what you're doing. I hope you are searching for God's will in your life, motivated by the fact that he loves you and you reciprocate that love by loving him. In 1 John 4, 9, by this the love of God was manifested to us that God sent his only begotten son into the world so that we might live through him. That's how we know he loves us. And in 1 John 4, 10, in this is love. Not that we love God, but that he loved us. and sent his son to be the propitiation for our sin. That's how much God loves you. He gave his only begotten son. There's so much more to say about this, and I will give you some demonstrations of that love, how it plays out in your life in the next radio show. but I hope this is making sense to you because I want you to understand the critical concept. God loves you. Sure, you failed. Sure, you've messed up. Sure, you've done some dumb and stupid things, but he loves you. He hasn't given up on you. Maybe you gave up on yourself, but he hasn't given up on you. I hope you will use problem-solving device number one, rebound, confess your sin to God. He will be faithful and just to forgive you. Until next week, I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you, thank you, thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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John Rush opens Hour 3 with a warning about deceptive storm-chasing roofers and how signing one piece of paper could cost you your freedom to choose. Dave Hart of Roof Savers Colorado explains how to spot scams, how to avoid signing away your roof, and why it's illegal (and dangerous) for companies to waive your deductible. Plus, John dives deep into Trump's Liberation Day tariffs, the constitutional crisis of executive power, and the shocking way California’s rules affect your gas-powered future. He also warns Coloradans about Phil Weiser's attempt to gut TABOR and what that means for your wallet.
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All right, we are back. Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Dave, what's going on, sir? Living the dream, John. How are you doing today? Good. Dave Hart, Roof Savers of Colorado. And we're in the stormy time of the year, as you know, Dave. We not only went through the last, I don't know, 10 days or so. It's still a little bit stormy out tonight. We are definitely not out of the woods yet. And what you know, because you're the one always telling me, when these things happen and storms roll through, so do all of the quote-unquote storm chasers.
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Oh my goodness. It's insane. You know, I live out in the Elizabeth area and we had a tornado last Sunday is about three miles north of my house. And I would say within two hours, it must have been 13, 14 people going up and down the neighborhoods. Wow. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah, it's just – it's almost – I know we all got to make a living, and I get it, but it's – Well, and you know what?
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I'm glad you say that. Yes, we do. Although the way that some of these other companies make their living, Dave, that's what I wanted you to talk about, is not always above board. And what I mean by that, for all of you listening, in a lot of cases, these storm chasers will make you sign a paper saying, hey, you know – You're basically making sure that if I get on the roof and fall off, your insurance is going to cover me and blah, blah, blah. Well, Dave, there's more to it than that. That's not exactly what you're signing.
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No, 100%. And a lot of them will just basically flat out say, by signing this, you're just giving me permission to get on your roof and look at it because that's what your insurance company wants to see. The insurance company has no clue they're even at the door. So it doesn't really even hold up with the court of law, but they will make your life miserable if you go with somebody else after signing that
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Yeah, basically what you're doing is signing an agreement with them that you're not only going to have them get up there and look at your route, but whatever is needed, they're now your guy. Yeah, 100%, completely. Yeah, which is crazy. You're right. No, it's just crazy. And, again, the reason I wanted you to talk about that, Dave, is because I think at times I say that and people think, oh, geez, John, no, that doesn't – we're now in 2025. That doesn't happen anymore.
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I dealt with this on three customers last year alone. And we didn't have that much hail last year. So it does happen. It happens a lot. It happens every year. It happens. People are like, hey, I don't want to use this company. They're not calling me back or they want my money now or whatever. And the first question is like, okay, well, did you sign something with them? Well, I did. Okay, well, here's what's going to happen or here's what they're going to try and do. But it does happen and it happens all the time. And it's sad and it puts a lot of fear and intimidation into the customer. when they find out that they don't want to use that company. So we try to do things differently. Yes, we are a roofing contractor. We have three different divisions, basically, replacing roofs or extending the life of commercial residential roofs. But we don't even put a contract out there until we all agree on numbers. The insurance company has been out. That all makes sense that they're paying what is needed to be paid for, paying fairly, whatever. And then we'll sit down, we'll go over the numbers, we'll pick out your shingles, and then at that point you'll sign a contract once you agree you want to move forward with us.
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Which is the way it ought to work, Dave. The reality is, unfortunately, in your world, a lot like the automotive world, there's a lot of unscrupulous folk. that give the really good guys, because you're not the only good guy out there. There's other companies in town as well. We know that, Dave. You and I do. But the reality is those other companies give everybody a bad name at the end of the day. The other thing I wanted you to talk about as well, because in Colorado there's a law against it, and that is a company coming along saying, we'll absolve your deductible. We'll take care of your deductible. That's illegal.
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It's 100% legal. And we all have a responsibility. I'm not a fan of the government coming and telling me what I can or can't do. But the reality is when we sign our paperwork with our insurance, we agree that that deductible is our responsibility. And by not paying for it, we're causing a lot of other issues that we're dealing with within the insurance industry as a whole. And now people are, you know, the deductibles are getting a lot larger, so companies can't. you know, absorb the whole thing, but they're getting, you know, checks back in the mail, all kinds of different things. And there's a way to help cover those costs legally, but that's once the insurance company comes out and we can see what's going on and, you know, what the customer, what the insurance company has available to work with, but they're not going to cover the entire deductible. And, again, by waiving it, it is a law. It's illegal to do that, and we have to follow the law. Whether we agree with it or not, we have to follow the law. So there's a lot of craziness going out there. Some of the stuff that we're seeing now, too, is homes that might have some really tiny, small hail damage. People are being forced into making claims and getting the insurance company to pay for them. Well, we don't have to. We can treat a roof like that. We treat a lot of roofs that have hail damage. So there's just a lot of crazy things going on out there. And it's one of the things I just really wanted to mention is, like, Let's have somebody like us look at that roof, and then we can discuss what's in the customer's best interest.
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Well, that was going to be my next question. I say this all the time, and I think I'm on the same page with you. Instead of them calling even their agent and getting an adjuster out and going through all of that, call you first. Let's find out exactly what we're up against. Let's read the policy. You can read the policy, Dave, and know exactly what the deductible is. You can then compare that against here's the damage we have. And, oh, by the way, it's not even meeting your deductible. Dave, I know how insurance companies are. If that's the situation, you're best off not calling the insurance company. Even if you're within a few hundred bucks of paying for it yourself versus turning it in, you're better off not turning it in.
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100%. Yeah. And I'm dealing with the same situation. I have two houses, one I'm moving into in a few weeks, one I'm selling, and they both got hail damage. So I got to look at the numbers. It doesn't make sense. But the reality is, this one I'm selling does, the new one, doesn't make sense to do that. And the reality is, I may not. The road's not that old. And it's a large deductible. And I'm making a claim, and I might just write it out for a couple of years. So it I'll treat it, of course, so that roof does not continue to deteriorate. Correct. But those are the types of things that we look at and figure out what makes the most sense time-wise, financially-wise, long-term. Do you want a claim out there when your policy renews? all that stuff we'll look at and determine what makes sense, and then we have options one way or the other.
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And I'm glad you said that too, Dave, because the other thing that folks need to keep in mind, all of us, myself included, when you have a claim, some people think, well, I've paid money into this insurance company all these years. I deserve something back. Right. Right. Right. Every other insurance company will have access to that, even if you switch. So there's some people thinking, Dave, well, I'll get my claim paid by this company, and then I'll just jump to company B next year, next month, whatever the case may be. No, company B is going to know what company A paid out for that roof loss.
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Yeah, it's very much like a credit report, right? That's right. It's called a lost run report, and they know. Uh-huh.
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Yep. For everybody listening, there is no getting around that. Some people would think, well, I just want to tell the next company about that. They're going to know, folks. There's no getting around that. That's my point of if it's really close in what the deductible is versus what the total cost of repair is, you might be well off to just go ahead and pay to fix it and not turn the claim in.
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Yeah, and again, that's stuff we want to talk about with the customer face-to-face and go over those options because there are times, too, where you and I have talked about it quite a bit. It's just because you're saying, hey, your roof is a certain age. We're no longer going to cover you or you're going to get half of what it costs in the future. Replace it, whatever, and discuss, okay. That's one of those factors we've got to factor in if it makes sense to replace it now, or do we just hold off and keep it going?
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
There's a lot of different things going on in the industry that weren't here two years ago that we have to attend to and get all the appropriate education and information to make the best decision for the client.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. If they're listening and they've had any kind of issues storm-related, and this, by the way, will apply to things that might happen down the road because we're not out of the woods yet. Dave, how do they call you? Hello.
SPEAKER 15 :
Just give us a call at 303-710-6916, and Madison will be more than happy to take information and get you scheduled in for a free inspection.
SPEAKER 12 :
Awesome. As always, Dave, I appreciate it very much. We'll talk again on Fix It Radio on Saturday as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sounds good, sir.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right. And this news just came out. This was not in my notes. Actually, my son Richard just sent me this. A U.S. federal court has blocked Trump's Liberation Day tariffs from taking effect as announced on April the 2nd. This involves tariffs on most U.S. imports with a baseline 10 percent initially taking effect on April 5th. However, as you guys all know, other things have come into play and other tariffs and so on. Where will this end up in personally speaking? What gives a judge the right to do this? Because everything I have read, and I am not an expert. I will be straight up honest. I'm not a lawyer. I don't have any degree or anything along those lines. But everything that I have read, the president does have the power to set tariffs, especially under the circumstances that we have going on right now. But yet we have a judge, and I didn't look up to see who this judge is. My gut feeling is it's probably a liberal appointed judge, says that no, in fact – Donald Trump doesn't have the power to do so. And this one just as I heard some folks over the weekend talking about tariffs. And I bit my lip. I didn't want to jump in. I just I shut up because it wouldn't do me any good to jump in and say anything. It was an older couple that were talking back and forth to one another. And this particular guy was on a. rant about how Trump doesn't know anything about the economy and he has no idea what he's talking about when it comes to tariffs and and there's always going to be a deficit and this that and the other and while I agree there will always be a trade deficit because we are the largest consumer in the world of goods how that deficit is accounted for is what matters yes there will always be a deficit we're going to buy more than we export it just is that way because we're a consuming nation I understand that I'm not that stupid But how the tariffs work and the simple fact that in most cases, not all, but in most cases, a lot of our goods get tariffed very high going into other countries. And yet we allow those goods that are coming back to come in, in some cases for nothing. That's what Trump is trying to fix. It's really everything I just said in the simplest of terms is what Trump's trying to fix. It's not that we're going to get rid of the trade deficit. It's let's get rid of this imbalance in what it costs for our goods to go to another country versus that same country's goods coming back into our country. Let's make it even. That's what Trump's trying to accomplish when it's all said and done. I so much wanted to jump in and talk to this old liberal Democrat moron, but I decided not to. Because, frankly, I wasn't going to make any headway with him. I could already tell by his attitude and how he was acting and so on that nobody's going to convince him that Donald Trump is doing the right thing. So why bother? Now, in this particular case, this was a technical ruling issued today by U.S. Judge T. Kent Weatherall II. And again, I don't know. I'll have to read more into this. This just came out. I was able to read this through the little bit of a commercial break we had just a few minutes ago because this came out while I was talking to Dave Hart. So I don't know where this goes from here. Yeah. I guess the judge is basically saying that, again, Trump does not have the international emergency economic powers of 1977 that authorizes presidents to actually set tariffs. I guess he's writing that Trump's justification for the tariffs. both stemming the flow of illicit drugs into the country and resolving a trade imbalance, is sufficient to satisfy the terms set by Congress. There is a civil action commenced against the United States, and it arises out of a federal law. So the – let me make sure I say this right, Charlie – This positive question framed by the party's filings is whether the IEPA provides for the tariffs. He wrote defendants contend that it does. Plaintiffs contend that it doesn't. The court agrees with the defendants. And so I don't know exactly how this is all going to shake out when it's all said and done. I guess—and hang on, I'll make sure that I say this right. The judge says that he does have the power to impose tariffs. I'm sorry, I read that wrong. I take back what I said, that a judge said that he didn't have—I'm sorry, I read that wrong— Although there's a tweet that came out that a federal judge has officially blocked Trump's liberation. I'm going to do more reading. You guys that are listening to have more ability to read this, please let me know what you read. I've got two different sets of information coming my way because I've got one tweet that says that a federal court blocked it. Yet I'm reading something on ABC. that says he does now that one was a few days ago so maybe a new judge has issued something today that wasn't issued five days ago again folks i'm gonna have to read more on this to see exactly what's going on and one thing i have learned just as a side note it's why i don't always announce everything i see on x or you know the old twitter which is now x everything you see on x or facebook or wherever isn't always accurate So I'm going to be careful here in what I say as far as this goes, and we'll do a little bit more research, and I will do some of that tonight and talk more about that tomorrow, of course. But according to X, a federal court has officially blocked his Liberation Day tariff. So, again, I'll read more on this. If you guys have any articles you can send my way to let me know whether that's true one way or the other, please do so. And, again, I should always mention this. The text line 307. 282 22 307 282 22 now one other thing i want to talk about before we go to phil kirpin here at the bottom of the hour scott garless by the way could not join us today so uh phil kirpin's gonna chime in and we're gonna talk about the big beautiful bill but phil weiser that is our attorney general here in colorado There was an interview that was done of late because he's running for governor of Colorado. So there was an interview asking all sorts of things about, you know, where's his position on Tabor? By the way, he thinks Tabor should have its cap raised. And they asked him specifically, well, by how much? And he basically said he would actually put that out to all the different voters across the state. In other words, he dodged that particular question. But what I'm telling you is. Phil doesn't like Tabor. Most Democrats do not like Tabor because it keeps their spending in check. If we had Tabor as a federal government, we wouldn't have 30, almost 39. I believe I looked this morning. Hang on, let me get this right. 37 trillion. We're 36,908 right now. 36 trillion, 908 billion, and that's climbing. So we're almost 37 trillion in debt. I will tell you right now that if we had Tabor as a country years ago, you wouldn't have that. It wouldn't exist. So is it important for Colorado to keep Tabor? Absolutely. We lose Tabor, we're done. It will be runaway spending. Your taxes will increase dramatically. On and on we go. A lot of things that you're now getting money spent on won't, and things that you don't want to have money spent on will, and it'll just snowball. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. It will snowball. Tabor literally is the only thing keeping things fiscally sound in Colorado. We're already socially unsound. We're already politically unsound. The only thing keeping us fiscally sound is Tabor, because that was put in by Republicans years ago, decades ago. And for those of you that are new to the state and don't know what Tabor is, Tabor is a cap on government spending based upon population and inflation. It's in its simplest form. I just explained it. TABOR is a cap on how much government in Colorado, the state government, can spend annually based upon our population, knowing how many people are here, you know, relying upon the state of Colorado, government-wise, and what inflation does in any particular year. So if it's a low population growth or, in fact, in some cases, some states in Colorado could even see a depopulation, And depending upon what inflation actually does, they may end up with a year where there's not much more they can spend than last year, which, as you all know, that's not what governments like to do, state included. They like to spend more than they, in fact, they incentivize all of their departments to spend more every year. So the reality is if we have no growth or even some minus growth, depopulation, and we have not much inflation, which could be the case here in 2025, it limits how much in 2026 the government can spend. In fact, what it does is if they have a surplus of money, in other words, they collected more than what they were able to actually increase by the means I just said, they have to give that money back to taxpayers. Democrats hate that. They do not like giving refund checks. Let's just say that. So when you see a Tabor refund check, guaranteed, unless you're the Democrat receiving it, of course, Democrats don't want to write that check. Period. So, again, I need to remind everybody, especially those of you that are new to our state that might be listening to me maybe for the first time, Tabor is what keeps... The state of Colorado fiscally in check, where California and others, they bond things out. They've got state debt and so on. That's because it's runaway spending by Democrats because they don't have TABOR. We do. TABOR is a taxpayer bill of rights. And it caps state government spending by the means I just explained. Now, they also try to get around TABOR by issuing fees and doing all sorts of things that, in my opinion, are illegal. They've taken some of those court cases all the way up to the Supreme Court, and they've ruled that, nope, the state can go ahead and put that fee in. I think that's a bunch of garbage, frankly. It's wrong. It's not a fee. It's a tax. A fee is a tax. They're one and the same, if you ask me. There is no difference. But we, the conservative side, have tried to sue over those things, over those quote-unquote fees. And if you don't know what I'm talking about with fees, go register your car and look at literally the ticker tape that gets printed out of fees. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. There's literally probably, Charlie, what, 15 different fees when you go to register your car? And I'm not exaggerating. Roll through them. I might be low in the 15. Literally, I've done that on Drive Radio. It's been in years past. But literally, you look at every single fee they've got. It's ridiculous. That's how they get it. The reason why we have so many fees registering your vehicle is because they can't raise the tax because of Tabor. So they fee you to death. So, again, that's a bigger topic probably for another day I could get into and really get going on that. But the reality is, I'll just tell you straight up, Phil Weiser, as a candidate for governor of Colorado, which he'll be on the Democrats' side most likely, Depends on how their primary ends up. But I can tell you right now, he, among all the other Democrats, would love to see Tabor go away. That's the one thing they'll all be in unison on. I'll just tell you that straight up. 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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Charlie's doing his best to get Phil Kirpin on with us, but we'll roll along either way. Real quick, going back to Phil Weiser, who, again, if you don't know who that is, that is our current attorney general here in Colorado. And yes, he has already thrown his hat into the ring. to run for governor of the state of Colorado, just so you all know kind of where things are at as far as all of that goes. Now, there will be others. In fact, Michael Bennett has thrown his hat into the ring. That's our senator that we tried to defeat a few years ago that we were unsuccessful in doing. So, again, who will actually be their candidate? I don't know, but what I will tell you is there will be slight differences between in how some of them approach their run for governor, i.e. Tabor, and they know that's a political hot button in Colorado. That's why Phil, in this particular interview, didn't even give any answers as to what he would do with Tabor. All he's saying is that, hey, I want bottom-up leadership. I want the citizen to kind of tell us what we should do with Tabor, and then I'll go with that. That's the weakest, lamest thing, Phil, I've ever heard you say yet. And you've said some pretty weak things, but that's pretty weak. So bottom line, that's the kind of leadership, though, you're going to get out of Phil Weiser. Keep in mind, he's our attorney general and has never fought a case in court, never been to trial ever in his entire life, and yet he's our attorney general. Phil Kirpin joining us now, American Commitment. Phil, welcome. Hey, how are you? I'm good. Good to have you back, Phil. Appreciate you very much. And talk about the RAINS Act and the big, beautiful bill.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, the REINS Act was in. It was in. It was in. I was excited. Then it was pulled out. So it's not in at the moment, but I'll tell you about both of them. The REINS Act I've been working on for the last 15 years or so. It's kind of the unfinished business of the Tea Party era. This is a bill that would change the regulatory process. So instead of agencies being able to impose more or less whatever regulations they want, unless someone stops them in court or somehow... You muster enough votes in Congress to stop them after the fact. This would change it so when an agency wants to impose a regulation, they've got to write it out and send it to Congress as a proposal, and Congress would have to vote on it first. It would have to get approval in the House and Senate and a presidential signature or a veto override. before taking effect. So in other words, we would follow the actual constitutional lawmaking process for these major regulations.
SPEAKER 12 :
Versus the way we do it now is backwards of that, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Completely backwards, yeah. It's almost impossible to stop regulations now because unless you just had a presidential election. Now, once in a while you can do it. So for instance, we just had a huge victory on getting Congress to stop a regulation last week. When we got a majority in the House and the Senate to overturn the EPA waiver to California that let them ban internal combustion vehicles. That's right. That was huge.
SPEAKER 15 :
Big.
SPEAKER 03 :
Major. We were only able to do that because the president changed. Right. That's right. If Biden were still in, he would have vetoed it, and we never would have had enough votes to overcome a veto. The only way you ever get a regulation overturned really these days is when you had a presidential election in between.
SPEAKER 12 :
I want to stop you for a moment because the other ironic thing about what you just said a moment ago, which, again, is backwards, is you've now got the state of California. They're going to go and sue the federal government saying, you know, you guys can't do that. Congress doesn't have the authority to do that. Phil, that's exactly Congress's job.
SPEAKER 03 :
My God, if California wins that lawsuit, I give up on the competition. Unbelievable, Phil.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I'm listening and thinking to myself, you guys really aren't that dumb, are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, that one in particular is insane because clearly the automobile market is interstate commerce. That's right. Clearly, we've had federal regulation of it for decades. And the only reason California was allowed to do that at all was they got granted a special waiver from the Obama administration, and then Trump revoked it, and then Biden gave it to them again. And, you know, Trump could revoke it again, but then the next Democrat will just give it back again. So it's so much better to have Congress actually revoke
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and really quick, I want to jump in again, Phil, because for everybody listening, states like Colorado, we jumped on the same bandwagon that California had because the way their law was written, it allowed other states to dovetail in to what they were doing, which we also did, Phil. So what this means for Colorado is ours is null and void right now as well, which, again, is a huge thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Just so everyone understands how this works, California has this special provision of the Clean Air Act Amendment of 1990 that if they don't want to follow EPA rules, they can ask for a waiver to step their own rules. Now, no other state can do this, just California. But when California does it, then every other state gets to choose.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do they want to follow the federal or do they want to follow California? And so California's waiver... Really, it affected almost 40% of the population of the U.S. because we had 10 or 12 other states. Yeah, Colorado being one of them. That's right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And really quick, Phil, because you do a better job of explaining this than I, pick another industry or another item. whereby, because in this particular case, you end up with basically two different sets of regulation, if you would, one coming out of California, one coming out of the federal government. To your point, interstate commerce, making it very, very confusing when it's all said and done. Can you think of another industry whereby you could be just as confusing, if a state were allowed to do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, they're probably other things. California has other kind of crazy rules about some agricultural things and some other... I mean, so, I mean, we've got some... I mean, I would look at... My comparison would be, okay, California, we're going to let you go and have your own $100 bill that's only for California.
SPEAKER 12 :
In other words, you get your own currency. Right. Phil, there's no difference, in my opinion, of doing that and then let other states latch on to that and basically having a completely separate monetary system for California and however many other states wanted to join in versus what the feds are doing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, what would actually happen? And I think, of course, you know, the Democrats and Biden people know this is eventually the California standard just becomes the whole country. And you just have these only because that's the. you know, it just keeps expanding and, you know, you're not going to have double tooling. And, you know, it's just, it was a way to get, you know, they actually wanted to ban gas cars everywhere. That's right. We were just starting in California. So that was a big one. But, you know, the only way we got that overturned is because we had a presidential election in between. And, you know, what I've always said is, this process we have is so, but the best example of how backwards this whole process is, is what happened in the Obama administration when they tried to do cap and trade. Remember, they had Nancy Pelosi running the House. They had Harry Reid running the Senate. They had big majorities in the House and Senate. In fact, they had supermajority in the Senate, 60 at the time. Why didn't that bill ever pass? Well, it didn't pass because there was a huge public opinion backlash when they pushed it through the House, and people said, wait a second, this is going to cause the price of energy to skyrocket, and everyone was sharing the clip of Obama saying, oh, it'll necessarily skyrocket, and we were hammering them, and You had a bunch of Democratic senators say, we're not even going to vote on that. You know, this is a terrible idea, we're not going to do it, and it collapsed. And the way our system is supposed to work, that ought to be the end, right? That's the end of that. But it wasn't, because instead Obama said, hey, I have a pen and I have a phone, and I'm going to have the EPA, you know, do half the things that were in the bill anyway. Just inventing, you know, finding, asking the lawyers to come up with some excuse, and then writing it all into regulation. And they basically... you know, they shut down half the coal plants in the country after that, even though the bill hadn't passed. And if we had something like the RAINS Act in at that time, they wouldn't have been able to do any of that because they would have written out their regulations, but they wouldn't have been able to get the votes for them. They would have just ended.
SPEAKER 12 :
Phil, another example is what ATF does at different times, where they'll just come in and randomly set some sort of Second Amendment, quote-unquote, regulation about whatever device might or might not be constitutional at the end of the day. But to your point, because of the way things have always worked, they've gotten by with that garbage when, in fact, it's unconstitutional.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and more to the point, they would never be able to get the votes in Congress to do it if they had to vote. That's right. So that's another very good example. So we've been trying to do that. Actually, there's an amazing story behind the RAIN Act. The guy who came up with the idea. was a guy named Lloyd Rogers. He actually passed away about a year and a half ago now. Great guy, but he was a Navy veteran, former local elected official in northern Kentucky. And you remember 2009 when all the town halls were going wild and they were trying to do all that stuff? Well, this guy went to a town hall meeting with his congressman. He brought his constitution and he brought his water bill. And he opens his constitution, the first page, he goes, Congressman, it says all legislative power is vested in a congressman. Article 1, Section 1, here's my water bill. It says that my price is going to double because of EPA stormwater management rules. So why didn't you guys vote on that? Why wasn't there a vote? How does the EPA have the legislative power to double my water bill? And his congressman was kind of like, whoa, we should have voted on that. You're right. And that's when they came up with this idea for this bill. It came out of that. That's why I call it sort of the unfinished business from the Tea Party era. And Jim Jordan, the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, had it in the one big beautiful bill coming out of committee. It was in there. And they took it out in that late-night final amendment package. I guess because they thought Senate procedure was going to be a problem with Senate procedures and the parliamentarian and all that. There was actually almost no reporting on why it was taken out. So I was just, I didn't even understand it. I thought it was still in because the way they wrote the amendment was so confusing. But it's out. Maybe the Senate can get it back in. That would be great. But for the moment, it's out.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And that's one of those things where, yes, this is a time where you can call your congressmen, women, your senators, and so on, even though our two are very Democrat. We're Democrat here, of course, the two that we have. But you can still make a phone call and let them know you want that put back in. Phil, I can't think of any. I mean, there's no lobbying. There's nothing along those lines because states can't lobby. Agencies can't lobby. I can't think of a reason why they would pull this out politically because there's nothing in this for them politically. This isn't like cutting Social Security or something along those lines where you're going to have constituents mad over it. This is a win for all of them. I don't understand why they would pull it out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the cynical theory would be that there's some people up there that like not voting. Well, of course. They like avoiding responsibility and saying, oh, yeah, I hate what they're doing, but I can't do anything about it. Instead of, you know, all of them being put up to a vote where people can look it up and see who voted for it. So, I mean, that's the cynical theory.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're probably right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think the less cynical theory is that, you know, maybe the Senate rules of reconciliation wouldn't have allowed it and it would have caused a procedural problem. I mean, I don't understand Senate rules myself. I think that when it seems like the country's being governed by a parliamentarian instead of the people we elected, you've got a problem. But if they can't get it in this bill, they've got to find some other way to get it done before the end of President Trump's term. Because we saw Obama was the worst regulator in history. Trump undid almost everything Obama did. Biden came and did everything Obama did and then some, and a lot more. And we can't have a situation where... You know, Trump does all this amazing deregulatory stuff, but as soon as the Democrats and they bring it all back and then some, we have to have a process that slows that down. So we've got to get this done during this presidency.
SPEAKER 12 :
These guys are like city councils that hire city managers because then they can blame the city manager and everything that happens inside of the city, even though it's their fault.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think the... Congress has been able to get away with avoiding responsibility way too much, way too much. And by the way, I don't know where you are on the tariff issue, but the Trump tariffs got struck down in federal court just, I don't know, 15 minutes ago.
SPEAKER 12 :
I was just talking about that a few minutes ago.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know all of the particulars, but... Well, it was a panel of a Reagan judge, an Obama judge, and a Trump judge, and it was unanimous. And frankly, whether you like tariffs or you hate them, they ought to be voted on in Congress. It shouldn't be. We shouldn't be governed... by laws created by the executive branch, we're supposed to have a separation of powers. So that's my view on that, and it relates to the stuff we were just talking about.
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All right, and I did do some reading, not only while we were with Phil, but he mentioned this, and then I did a little bit of reading in this last break. And yes, as Phil said, a federal trade court ruled that President Trump doesn't have the authority to impose sweeping tariffs on virtually every nation, avoiding the levels that have sparked a global trade war and threatened to upend the world economy. This is coming out of the Wall Street Journal. The decision on Wednesday from the Court of International Trade blocked one of the Trump administration's most audacious assertions of executive power under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 and sets the stage for a possible appeal by the White House. So we will see what happens next. Charlie asked me during the break, so what happens to a lot of these – traders that have already paid tariffs and things along those lines. Honestly, I don't know. Give them the money back? I'm not sure exactly how that works. I really don't have any idea. I'm sure the White House will appeal this, as Charlie said during the break as well. Every president that I've ever known has done something along these lines without the approval of Congress. I mean, Obama did them. Trump did them the last time around. Biden didn't change some of those, actually kept some of them the same in regards to like China, you know, for example. So I don't know how this is going to shake out. I have mixed emotions on this. I like Phil. I do feel like there needs to be a separation of power. Although in this particular case, I do feel like when we've got emergency situations going on in regards to the economy and you've got to get something changed to get things back on track, And in this particular case, and some of you might argue with me, but you've got a situation where the Fed isn't helping you any way, shape, or form. Congress and the Senate, by the way, aren't helping you any way, shape, or form. You know, are you just going to be stuck between a rock and a hard spot and not do anything? I mean, as I said earlier, yes, I understand we'll always have a trade imbalance, a trade deficit when it comes to other countries. We're the biggest buyer. We're the biggest customer. But to say – just to say that and disregard the fact that other countries aren't playing by the rules, well, that's a whole other level. Where does Trump go from here? And I guarantee you they're having meetings as we speak along these lines as to what they do. By the way, to get the trade deficits, in other words, we as a country, we may export something and get hit, like, for example, cars. We'll use that one. We've been charging 5% for European vehicles to come into the country. They, though, even though they don't publicize this, the real number for us exporting one of our cars to Europe is about 30%. That's a 25% difference. The EU can ship a car over here for 5%. We can't ship one of ours over there for less than 30%. It's 30%, 35% roughly. And before some of you send me something and say it's only 15% or it's only 10% or 12%, you've got to add all of the other taxes that they throw in there that aren't necessarily a tariff but they're still a tax and it still gets paid at the end of the day. So don't go off of just what USA Today or somebody like that will publish because that's not completely accurate. In other words, don't go off what the left tells you because it won't be completely accurate. You've got to factor in all of the other costs that are there as well, all of the other taxes. That's the case in that particular situation with our cars going to the EU. Where does this go from here? Folks, I don't know. I really don't know. I guess we'll see by probably morning what happens with the White House and what President Trump actually says and where things are going to go from here because I really don't know. I don't know. And again, am I with Phil in the separation of powers and so on? Yes, although I'll tell you right now, in this particular case, you're not going to get agreement. from Congress to do anything along these lines whatsoever. Too much payola going into too many people that are elected for them to make wise choices when it comes to tariffs. I'm sorry. That's one where I don't agree with Phil on that particular case. I agree that, yes, we need a separation. But I don't agree. And you're not going to get it done. That's the problem. You're never going to get anything done if you let them do it. That's the problem we have. Because they don't have the guts to do it. Again, because of the payola. So it'll be interesting to see how this one shakes out. I'm not sure exactly how this is going to go. I don't know where we're going to go from here. I don't know what the markets will do. I guarantee you they're going to be up tomorrow because Wall Street hates tariffs. I've talked about that numerous times because they're all globalists. They hate tariffs. They would just soon see us get raked across the coals when it comes to us exporting, and yet another country is charging us a boatload, but we can't charge them. Wall Street would love that. They don't care because they don't care about America. Period. Period. Even though we're the biggest buyer, even though we set the stage, financially speaking, for the rest of the world, Wall Street doesn't care. Those traders don't care. Those hedge fund managers, they don't care. I'm being straight up honest. They don't care. All they care about at the end of the day is what can they get done in their own portfolio with their own investors and so on, and they don't care about the country. Any way, shape, or form. I'm sorry to say, they just don't. And they proved that over and over and over again. So, I don't know. This one is up for debate. I guess we'll see how things go here over the next couple of days. It'll be interesting to see what kind of a statement the White House puts out, which I'm sure they'll put one out either tonight or first thing in the morning when it comes to this particular ruling. And we'll see where things go from there. It'll be interesting. It'll be interesting now to also see what the Fed does in their next meeting interest rate-wise, because if these things aren't going to take effect – then we've already seen a deflation, if you would, when it comes to inflation, or a reduction, I should say, in inflation. So you take this out of it, and I don't think the Fed has any way, shape, or form the ability to say that inflation is on the rise. We've got to keep rates up. I think that's a good case for them to drop rates if, in fact, this is exactly what ends up happening. So we'll see what happens. Normally, Scott Garlis is with us during this time. He's a better judge of all this than I. We will for sure talk to him next week. Veteran Windows and Doors is up next. 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John Rush kicks off Health and Wellness Wednesday with estate planning attorney Michael Bailey for a down-to-earth crash course in probate. Spoiler: dying without a will is a bureaucratic disaster. Then, Melissa Hill from the Archer Foundation shares the heartbreaking story of her son Archer’s battle with DIPG brain cancer, and how the foundation now helps other families walk that devastating road with dignity and support. Later, Troy Duell from Centurion Labs joins to talk about how heat affects your brain, how to protect your cognitive function this summer, and what makes a supplement trustworthy (hint: it’s not price alone).
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Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.
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I'm sorry that I'm fat. All right. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Welcome. Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Yes, live program. I'm back. Andy filled in for me for a couple of days. Appreciate that very much. By the way, today is National Hamburger Day. I don't know if that has anything to do with health and wellness. Michael Bailey's with me.
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Is that today or was that yesterday?
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It said 28th is what I read this morning.
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Okay. My wife seemed to think it was yesterday, but...
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I got several deals in my inbox today. Oh, fair. Maybe we were off by a day. Yeah, so those of you, you might look in your inbox. Look in the junk folder, by the way. There might be a few good deals in there on a juicy hamburger if that's something that you're interested in. Now, to other things, I should say, Michael, because I'm not sure how we tie hamburgers into estate planning other than, I guess, if you're eating one of those juicy hamburgers and you choke to death, you want to make sure you have your estate in order.
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Yes, but also if you eat enough hamburgers, then the last quote of I'm sorry that I'm fat from the intro. Good point. Could in fact be part of what happens. Good point.
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Okay, question for you. I didn't preface this with you before coming on, so I hope this is okay. Sure. I have talked to I don't know how many different people of late and for some odd reason the subject of probate with the states and stuff comes up. So would you explain what that is and when in fact does it get applied?
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So Probate is the legal process of getting assets from the deceased individual to the named beneficiaries or the heirs. Okay. So probate, the word itself comes from the Latin proving, to prove a will. Okay. So the idea is that when somebody dies and they have a will, you take the will to the probate court. Okay. and you go through the probate process. So, you know, there's forms that you apply for probate and basically you go to the court and you say, okay, this person has died. We see that this person or whoever it is is supposed to be appointed as the personal representative so that they have legal authority to transfer assets out of the deceased individual's name to the named beneficiaries of the heirs. And then they have to go through the process. So they have to, you know, kind of gather all the assets and pay off debts and all that type of stuff. So the probate process is the legal process of getting assets from the deceased individuals, the named beneficiaries, the heirs, when you have a will. Okay. If you don't have one, you still have to involve them, right? It depends on what else you have. Okay. If you have a trust, then a trust is an alternative to a will. Got it. If you don't have a will, then you go through what is called intestate probate. Okay. And intestate means you die without a will. Okay. And the state of Colorado, the state legislature, has written some statutes that say what's supposed to happen to your assets when you die if you don't have a will. So the state legislature has decided for you unless you decide for yourself. Last time I printed out the intestate statute, it was 88 pages long. So it's very simple. It's very straightforward. It's written like you would expect statutes to be written from the state legislature. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you can do the formulas. It's okay. But as soon as you go and apply for probate and there's no will, it's going to be scrutinized at a much higher level by the court. You know, if you have a will and you go apply, the court's like, cool, go ahead and do what you need to. Check in with us at the benchmarks where you're supposed to. Tell us what's in there. Tell us what you paid off. Tell us what's left. And, you know, you check in with us every once in a while, informally, like it's an administrative proceeding. You're good. intestate probate they're gonna be like oh hey so maybe you ought to come talk to us every week or so so that we know what's going on In other words, have a will.
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Yes. Or a trust or whatever you need to do to have all of your things in order. It makes life so much easier. Because if not, everything you just said, by the way, side note, just sounds to me like an absolute hassle.
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Yes, and that's why my friends who do probate administration make as much money as they do because they know how to navigate the hassle that you probably don't want to take on yourself if you don't have anything in place. If you do have things in place, you can find the forms online. You can submit them and go through it. It makes life easier. If you don't... then you want somebody who can navigate the treacherous waters, so to speak.
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Okay, I'm also guessing that you die, there's no estate plan, there's no trust, no nothing, so it's going to now go to the probate court, only it's not with the will, it's intestate. I'm guessing that's not cheap, because you probably are going to have a hard time doing all of that by yourself unless you've got some legal background. Right. Am I thinking correctly?
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Usually, yes. And cheap is, there's different types of costs. If you hire an attorney to do it, most of my friends who do probate administration, they charge a $6,000 to $8,000 to $10,000 retainer to start. And you know that's the beginning, not the end. If you do it on your own, you're like, well, Hey, I can figure this out. I'm like, well, what's the cost in your time? How many hours in a day in a week do you have? That's a good point. You know, if you're working and you have a family and you do things, you know, most people. have all of those things that they have other things to do with their lives besides dedicate to trying to figure it out, the cost in time can be every bit as high as the cost in money.
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So, again, have this in order. Right. And, folks, trust me, I cannot... I cannot, if I were sitting down across from you, I don't think I could say it enough times. Get this done. Get it in order. Because, you know, spoken from somebody that, you know, in my own family, some things, you know, happen. And it does for every family, by the way. When you don't have these things in order, it just makes things that much harder.
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It really does.
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Losing someone's heart enough.
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Yeah.
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Nonetheless, not having all of these other things in place.
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Yeah, but you lose your loved one. And that's already a terrible thing. You're like, oh, hey, let's deal with their money. You're like, seriously? Can we chill for a minute? Can we not have to jump right in? It needs to be done. And for a lot of you, it's a lot less pleasant.
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It's money. But keep in mind that that money isn't always in liquid form. Right. So now you may have money. You may have IRAs. You might have some pension funds that you may have. There may be some rights to. There may be homes. And maybe there's a couple of different homes. There could be cars and RVs and all sorts of other things, too, Michael.
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Yeah, I mean, the house is a big one. You know, I mean, how many people do we know who, you know, people they've aged, they get, you know, you're going to go sell their house, but the house needs a lot of work. And so how are we going to, you know, then suddenly who's going to do that work and how's it going to go? Correct. Who's paying for that? Who's paying for it? Because, by the way, there's, you know, you've got to have cash to make that happen. Right. So there's all these things that go into it, and you're like, the last thing you want to do is be like, oh, my gosh. Yep. It's on the list of things you need to worry about. But it's really not high on most people's list.
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And I'll tell you guys straight up because you know some of my history over the past 12 months or so. And things are already – I know I say it a lot. It's not like a broken record. But things are stressful enough when people die that making things as smooth as possible makes it easier even though it's still not an easy time. Is that a good way to say it? Exactly.
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You try to make it as easy as possible knowing full well it's still going to be a tough time. I mean, you know, it's still grieving. There's all sorts of other things going on at that same time. I mean, if you're the kind of person that when your parents die, you're going to have a party and cheer and be excited. I don't think I want you as a client. Thank you.
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I would agree with you on that one, Michael. All right. How far out are you? In other words, if people start calling you, how far away are you on getting a meeting set? Last week of August. Okay. So last week of August, meaning, folks, we're getting close to the fall. Which means if we start last week of August... Will probably be done by the end of the year. Meaning if you want to be done by the end of the year, you better start now. Right.
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So we're that far into the year already. So how do they do that, Michael? They can give me a call at 720-394-6887. Find me online at mobileestateplanning.com. Or I hear there's a couple of places that I'm on for you.
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RushToReason.com, KLZRadio.com, Drive-Radio.com. Again, wherever I'm at, for the most part, you will find Michael as well. And always, Michael, I appreciate it very much. I always learn a lot. I appreciate you having me on. You've trained me pretty well here over the years, so thank you very much. I appreciate it. Well, that's good. All right, veteran windows and doors coming up next, and always a great deal of veteran windows and doors when it comes to windows and doors for your home. Right now there's big discounts, 35% to 40% off depending upon what you buy, and some labor included with that. Give Dave a call today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Thank you for joining us today. Melissa Hill joining us now. And Melissa, welcome. You are from the Archer Foundation. Brain Cancer Awareness Month is this month, of course. And Melissa, welcome.
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Thank you, John. I appreciate you guys having me on.
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We've had you on in the past. I appreciate you joining us again. Before we get going here, tell us what the Archer Foundation is and what they do.
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Absolutely. The Archer Foundation is named for my son, Archer Hill, who was the most incredible little six-year-old boy that ever walked the face of this earth, in my mom opinion, which may or may not be biased.
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Oh, I think you're probably correct in what you're saying as well. I would feel the same way.
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Yes, good. I knew we were going to get along great. We exist for the reason of brain cancer, but really specifically a type of brain cancer that impacts A small number of kids, but it's absolutely devastating and devastated our family. And it's called DIPG, and it really just stands for the worst possible diagnosis for parents. It's a tumor in their brainstem, which means it's immediately terminal, that there's no real treatment. And it's so aggressive that the average lifespan is nine months.
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Wow.
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And it mostly impacts kids between the ages of five and nine. And Archer was five when we were diagnosed, and our world just stopped. Sure, sure. And so since that diagnosis, and Archer's journey, unfortunately, was only about six months after his diagnosis happened. Our family just realized that there is work to be done in this world in making the lives better of families like ours that feel like there's no hope for them. And we are a family of faith, and we believe that that is never true.
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Amen.
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I agree. And we just decided to dedicate our lives in His honor and in His legacy for making sure that families who are walking this road... can worry less about finances and worry more about what matters most, which is spending time with their kids.
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Amen. Well, you're in good company on all of the above of everything that you have said, and it's partly why we appreciate having you here, bringing awareness to this. Now, a question that I have, is this something that, you know, just not to get into the gory details, but is it something that there was any indication of previous? Is this something that's genetic, or does it just happen to certain kids?
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It's just crazy. And I now know all about it, and we've never heard of it before, and I'm sure most of your listeners have never and would never if they weren't listening today. But there is no genetic indication. There's nothing hereditary. It just seems like it's only certain kids, and it happens so quickly. For Archer, he played in – he was the most incredible athlete you would have ever met. He would be the first to play you. In kindergarten, he played in two baseball games and a flag football game, and a week later was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. And it happens that quickly and is that aggressive. And so there's no catching it early. By the time they show symptoms, that clock is ticking, and it just ticks so very fast.
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Awesome. Well, again, I appreciate you guys being here. And, yeah, these are things that most of us have no clue on. In fact, most people when it comes to brain cancer, Melissa, cancer I know affects a lot of different individuals, but there's lots of different forms of cancer. Our family, I lost my brother a few years ago to a geoblastoma, which is – a you know type of cancer but it happens mostly in in adults but yet he was not that old even for that type of cancer so you know we're we're kind of aware not to your extent my brother lived almost two years and so it's a little bit longer he was in a trial typically he would have been about a year But because of the trial, he was able to extend his life a little bit longer. But the one thing I do understand is the toll that it puts on families, the amount of things that are going on and the travel and the trying to have treatments and at least making the patient more comfortable and just all these things that are going on. It is a stressful time for a family, no doubt.
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It absolutely is. And that's one of the worst things that we realize, my husband and I, is. It felt like our world stopped completely, but somehow the world around us still went on. So bills still had to be paid, and that just didn't seem fair and didn't seem right because everything should have stopped that day when Archer was diagnosed. And every family feels that way. And I appreciate you sharing the experience with your brother, and two years is not long enough.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it isn't, but neither is five months, Melissa, so I can only imagine that time goes by so quickly, especially in the life of a child. I mean, honestly, I can't imagine. It would just be so difficult. Now, you guys come along, though, with the Archer Foundation, folks that are in similar situations. What do you specifically help them with?
SPEAKER 16 :
We focus on three things, which is, well, direct financial support. because there's so few organizations, we realized in our own experience, that can step in really quickly without a lot of red tape and say, tell us what your needs are and make those payments, pay rent, catch them up on car payments, whatever it is. That family can tell us, here's what we need to keep going. We cover the costs. You mentioned clinical trials. There are trials out there. Archer didn't quite make it to his, but we tried. But The travel to that is never covered by insurance, ever. Housing is never covered. All of it is just the medicines and the treatment is what a trial will cover, and that can be incredibly expensive for a family. Most brain cancer families, at least one parent has to quit their job or significantly cut back on work in order to care for their child full-time. And then the third thing that we do is we want our families to make memories. And if that means that it's taking a trip or doing a cool experience and they're worried about how to make ends meet, we want to take that burden off of them and say, you only have a set number of days left. And only God knows how many that is, but it's not going to be enough with this diagnosis. And so we want them to really have some fun together, and so we cover that, too, in the money that we raise.
SPEAKER 05 :
Nice, nice. Now, I also know because of our affiliation with Southern Recipe, Small Batch, you know, porkgrinds.com, we're very familiar with them. We do all sorts of different things back and forth throughout the year. Their affiliation with you guys is huge as well because, if I'm not mistaken, they kind of helped get this kicked off. Am I correct in that?
SPEAKER 16 :
They are a tremendous partner with the Archer Foundation. And first, we love pork rinds. Archer loved pork rinds, and his favorite place to eat them was on a boat fishing.
SPEAKER 09 :
There we go.
SPEAKER 16 :
So just shout out to that special time. And so Rudolph Foods has been such an amazing partner for us in getting us off the ground and letting us dive in immediately with helping these families and saying, what can we do to make sure that, We are where we need to be to say we don't have to turn a family away. And we're so thankful to them and are excited about our future. That's awesome.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, you know, your comment a moment ago, and I think a lot of folks listening may understand this, but maybe not. When you have that type of a terminal illness, you're correct. Even adult cancer, even like my brother, for example. Yeah. You the whole work thing and what you're concentrating on and the needs that are there and so on reality, as you know, Melissa, you you do have to make a huge shift in that end of things. And it can be a huge financial burden. And I mean, I can't imagine, you know, going through that and. And in you guys' case, you know, that five months, I mean, A, just devastating. B, I guess the plus side of this, though, is what you guys have done with it, which, you know, it's part of what we do here at Rush to Reason all the time is, okay, what are some of the solutions? We get it. We can be down about it. We can be sad, which we all need to be. There's that grieving time. But on the same token, okay, great. After all that's said and done, how do we go help others that are involved in this as well?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. And we talk a lot about that. We have two older teenage boys, Archer with our baby of three boys, and we talk a lot about what we can do and what we can't do. And we cannot change the outcome. And we couldn't change it for Archer. But what we can do is decide how we spend our time between heaven and earth.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that's where we choose to live out that legacy and love big because we can do that. That's within our control. And raising this money and supporting these families, is something that we absolutely can do, and that's what is moving us forward every single day. Because otherwise, just living in this world without him is too hard.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you guys are doing a tremendous job, and I appreciate that very much. I know the families, I feel like I can speak on behalf of those families. I guarantee you they are extremely thankful for what you guys are doing, and that is the way to do it, by the way, at the end of the day. And I, like you, yes, have deep faith. know where i'm going at some point in time we'll all be together again i know that's a cliche but that is the reality of it that's the one plus side to this that we can look forward to but to your point in the meantime there are many many other things that we can do while we have this time left on earth to help other families absolutely absolutely we agree well we appreciate you very much now before i let you go how if there's folks out there listening uh they feel touched by this they want to help out any way they can how do they do that
SPEAKER 16 :
You guys can find us. We would love for you to visit our website. It's www.archer-foundation.org. And selfishly, you can see some of the cutest photos ever of my little guy living his best life. But you can find out ways to support us. You can learn more about this type of cancer. And even more importantly than all of that is you can see profiles of the most courageous kids you would ever imagine meeting are featured on our website. Just these warriors that are out there doing this every single day. And so we are so honored to tell their stories and the stories of their family. And so your listeners can see all of that on our website and learn some more about us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Folks, we'll have all of that in our show notes. You'll be able to see that a little bit later this afternoon, this evening. Melissa, again, thank you so much for joining us. And tell all the folks at Southern Recipe Small Batch, you know, Rudolph Foods, thank you again as well. We appreciate them. We have a good time with them throughout the rest of the year, but this is a special time of the year with you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me on again.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're very welcome, Melissa. Thank you guys very much. And again, folks, we'll put that link up on our website as well, but it's easy. It's archer-foundation.org. You go there, you can see all the different things that she was just talking about, and a lot of the pictures of the kids are up there. As well. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next, folks. And again, if you're looking for a new used car, as you head into these summer months, you may find yourself wanting something different, needing something different. If that's the case, go to RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Troy Duell should be joining us here any moment. Charlie's getting him rounded up. Yesterday's possible question of the day. What ancient Sumerian city is often regarded as the world's first true city in recorded history? Uruk. U-R-U-K is the answer. Today's impossible question. If you add these to your eggs, it will provide you with fiber, vitamins B2, B3, B6, B9, B12, iron, and potassium. It will also give your eggs a nice cheesy flavor. What is that? So if you add these to the eggs, your eggs, you end up with all those additional vitamins, the fiber and so on that I just mentioned a moment ago. If you do that or if you do use this particular and it's a it's a food product, it's not some fancy ingredient or anything like that. But if you do put this on. your eggs what is that particular product and and by the way i didn't know any of this so i'm learning something new when it comes to this particular question of the day those of you that do know the answer by all means go to our facebook page and answer that question there a lot of times by the way you guys will go ahead and text those in and do things along those lines which i appreciate as well i'll pass those on to producer and when you do and i appreciate that in a lot of cases you guys get those right right off the bat which means you're much smarter than i troy dual joining us now troy welcome how are you sir Good, John. How are you, man? I'm doing good. Welcome back. Hope you had a great holiday. The heat, we have not been that hot here in Colorado yet, although it will come. It's not going to be cool forever. We did have a cool Memorial Day weekend, but things will change. It'll get intense. And one subject that we're going to talk about today is when the heat gets going and we get these heat waves, how do we keep our brain health up? In other words, how do we protect our cognitive function when things get hot?
SPEAKER 11 :
That is a great question and certainly something that we all need to think about and talk about because there was one study in particular in 2018 that showed on a 90-degree day that the heat could actually affect our educational performance, and they saw a 14% drop. in those people who took the test when they compared to heat. But what they noticed was the brain really got inflamed because a lot of times there's dehydration that's going on, there's more stress because you're hot, so you have all those things that come into play and it seems to really affect our memory, our focus, and a lot of us can get a little irritable. and the study actually showed that that is not uncommon, along with some anxiety.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, not to get, you know, I'm not making a joke here, I'm trying to be serious, so the old Western movies we'd watch as kids where they see the guy out in the middle of the desert and he's hallucinating that there's this big body of water or some beautiful woman is walking towards him or whatever the case may be, it's not as crazy as it seemed in the movies, I guess.
SPEAKER 11 :
Not at all, and it goes even back to those who are on the ship, right? They've been out there forever, and they didn't have water, and they start to hallucinate, and they see the mermaids. So same thing. It's all about that dehydration and the inflammation in the brain, and it's a powerful thing when we're under stress.
SPEAKER 05 :
So our brains literally are, you know, they say, you know, playing tricks on your mind. Not necessarily tricks. It's just your brain isn't able to function at the cognitive level that it normally would be because of the heat, the dehydration, and so on.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. And your brain's also working overtime to try to keep everything else functioning because we're trying to stay alive and keep going. It's one of those things that we've done for years. We don't really think about it that often now because it's rare that we're too far from water or too far from air conditioning. to really think about it, but it still affects us, and it's something we need to be cognizant of.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, as you know, I'm a car guy, so this is like going up one of our large passes we would have here in Colorado, running up to 11,000 feet. As it gets hotter outside, everything is working that much harder. The engine's trying to perform better, the transmission even. All sorts of components in the car are working overtime. And in some cases, Troy, they don't. They collapse on the way up. They can't make it all the way up. You see them over on the side of the road. There's steam coming out of the radiator or out from underneath the hood or whatever the case may be. And reality is it couldn't perform because we overloaded it too much.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. Either overloaded it or we didn't have the right components to begin with.
SPEAKER 05 :
True. Good point. We didn't prep well enough on the front side. Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point. So all those things... can certainly add up and our body is no different. If we're low and we're dehydrated or we're low in certain vitamins or we're straining our body by drinking too much alcohol or smoking too much, all those things come around and they affect us long term, especially when we're under stress like heat.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, give us some tips on the front side. You know, just like your vehicle, there's things we can do to prep not only our vehicle, but in this case, our bodies to be ready for these things. In a lot of cases, folks, especially now, Troy, you can pretty much look and know, okay, I'm going to be doing this activity. It's going to be this temperature outside. Oh, by the way, I might be in the sun versus the shade because that's a big factor, especially for those of us in the Mile High City. And as you get further up the pass, as I was just saying a moment ago, the closer you get to the sun, the worse this can get. My point is it doesn't have to be super hot outside to still have that intensity of the sun sucking the life out of you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And the best way to get prepared is to stay well hydrated. And that is obviously by drinking water, but it also has to do with what we eat. So if we're going to eat meals, try to eat meals that are high in water content. So fruits and vegetables, stay away from those things that are really dry and go after high water content type foods. So dark leafy greens, you want to go after those fatty fish and even eggs are a great thing to eat because they're full of the vitamins, vitamin B in particular, that we know are beneficial for the brain. And it's going to help your brain function at its absolute best. So always looking for blueberries, blackberries, great thing to do this time of year anyway, because they're usually in season and you get better fruit and vegetables during the summer months. So I think it's a pretty cool way that God has kind of designed nature for us to have those fruits and vegetables. with all the water content when we need it the most.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great point. Is there other things? Okay, I guess here's a question. I mean, it's sort of like we have this water tank, if you would, but on the same token, Troy, I also know that you can't, like, overfill it because there is a point in time where it's like, all right, you're hydrated, you keep drinking and doing other things, and it's really not adding anything to it. On the same token, as it starts to deplete, you need to be able to refill it, so you need to be cognitive of that as well, I'm guessing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. So as you're out, especially the hotter it gets, have a bottle of water with you and continue to sip on that bottle of water throughout the day. Every hour, make sure that you're drinking a glass of water or half a glass of water and stay well hydrated because that's only going to benefit you. And then I think the next thing is if you're exercising and staying in shape, your body is going to be much more balanced able to handle any temperature extremes or any stress moments that may come up. Whether that's heat, whether that's cold, whether that's some stressful event that you're going through, the more you exercise and you strain your body in an intentional way, then you're going to have that much better of a chance when you come under extreme heat or extreme cold.
SPEAKER 05 :
There's one thing in my notes, which this one also makes sense, although for some they do better at this than others, and that is quality sleep. So you know you've got a big event coming up or you're going to be doing some sort of an outdoor whatever. It could just be chores around the house. I guess, Troy, what you're saying in my notes here is make sure you get a good night's sleep ahead of time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. I mean, sleep is one of those things that – it is the time for our body really to recharge and to rekindle and to get back to that homeostasis where we can rest, our muscles are resting, our body's resting, our brain is basically clearing itself out. It's kind of like turning off your computer. You have to turn off your computer every once in a while. Otherwise, it just kind of gets filled up with so many things. Our brains are very similar. And if we're not getting enough sleep or we're not turning it off and taking that total rest, then it can really slow us down cognitively, especially during times of heat.
SPEAKER 05 :
One thing that, and I guess because I am, partly because of what I do here on a daily basis as well, staying socially active, engaging with friends and family, helping to maintain that cognitive function and your emotional well-being, that is one, I'll just tell you straight up, Troy, I wouldn't have thought of that as a part of a life hack in regards to heat and the stress they're in.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, again, it's all about making sure that your brain is as active as possible, whether you're under heat or not. So that's why you have the social interactions that you have. You're always exercising your brain through whatever that may be, kind of like you're working out your biceps. You're doing the same thing with your brain by doing crossword puzzles, playing games. Whatever it is to give you a little greater mental challenge will only help your brain when it becomes under stress.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, and you are, that one I get fully, that whole keeping your brain exercised. And no, folks, I'm not being critical here, Troy, but it's not turning on the TV and vegging. I know there are times where that is what some people need. They need that rest. They need that relaxation and so on. But I think at times people think, well, I'm challenged by watching the TV. Well, unless it's Jeopardy and you're trying to figure out and solve whatever that question is, Troy, probably not.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Now, there are some videos that you could take maybe for a language course that has a video that goes along with it that could be a challenging opportunity for your brain. But for the most part, I'd say 98% of the time, turning off the TV is a good thing. Picking up a book, picking up a podcast or something else to help challenge your brain, that's a great way to go over the TV for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and again, folks, all of you are a little bit different. Everybody's brain, you know, Troy, you would know this, is a little bit different. You need to know and master what are those things that challenge you. I mean, some of you might be bored stiff doing, like me, Troy, I'll just tell you straight up, crossword puzzles for me, yeah, yeah, I mean. That's a myth for me. They don't do much for me at all. Now, some of the other brain games that are out there, I do really well with. But crossword puzzles and me personally, just never been my thing. But I know people that can sit there, Troy, they buy a book and they get started and they just keep rolling. Again, pick your poison. Pick whatever works for you and go do that. And at the same time, Troy, I think it needs to be fun and challenging.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And I'm right there with you. A crossword puzzle doesn't really excite me much, but maybe trying to pick up the guitar and learn how to play that or a new language. Those are all things that you can do to really help challenge yourself. And, you know, on a hot day, if you're out on the porch or you're inside and you have a guitar. oftentimes that could make you feel just that much better. So go ahead and challenge yourself with something musical as well because those are great things that we know really expand the mind.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. You're from Centurion Labs, a founder of which they have, for all of you listening, great line of supplements for just about anything you can think of. Now, along those lines, Troy, are there things that we could be taking all the time, not just on the front side of an event like this, but all the time? And then are there certain things we can do if we know we're going to have a stressful encounter coming up?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. I think we've already touched on two of the things, which are diet and exercise, staying well hydrated. But then if there are supplements that you're looking for, there are certain supplements that certainly seem to support the brain more than others. And I think it starts with the B vitamins. So you've got to have methylfolate, which is folic acid or folate itself. You want to stay away from folic acid because it is a synthetic form, so you want to go after methylfolate. You want to go after methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin, which are vitamin B12. And then you want to go after riboflavin 5-phosphate. So those are the main B vitamins you want to go after. And then if you want to look at things like saffron, which I know sounds like a cooking spice, but what they've found is it has a great, great effect on the brain, really helps with blood flow to the brain. And it also has head-to-head. with some antidepressant products has actually performed as well or better than those antidepressant products. So it helps with just brain development overall and kind of regulating some of that neurotransmitter activity that's going on in your brain. And then the final thing I would say is look for fatty acids. So we all know that omega fatty acids are some of the best, omega-3s, but there are certain things out of those omegas that you want to pick out. So Anything with phosphatidylserine or phosphatidylcholine in it, we know that those are going to help with the neurons and really the membrane integrity of your brain itself and those nerves in the brain.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, now we want people to go to Centurion Labs to buy their supplements and so on, Troy, but let's say that there's some folks that are listening and maybe they've got some items kicking around and they're wondering, okay, are these good supplements that I've actually been taking or are they bad? And I guess the question for you, I know we've talked about this in the past, but as a refresher, how do folks know the difference?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's a great question, and really it comes down to trust of the company that you're working with. So if you've had products with them and you know that they're Quality products, if they're made in the U.S., that's a first start. You want to make sure that all your supplements are made here in the States because a lot of them come in from overseas. And then you want to make sure that it's from a company that has been manufacturing their products at a CGMP, a quality-controlled manufacturing facility, and that the ingredients are have been tested and that even the final product has been tested itself to make sure that it has what it says is in it and that it doesn't have any of those bacteria or other things that can sometimes get in product if it hasn't been in a great facility.
SPEAKER 05 :
And the reason why we need to do this and be a little more careful is because it's not regulated like what you would think other pharmaceuticals are. Am I right in saying that, Troy?
SPEAKER 11 :
That is true. They're regulated, but they're not looked at on a daily basis by the FDA. So they will come in and do inspections. They'll look at the facilities and make sure that everything's clean. But they won't necessarily come in and say that this product is able to do whatever it's saying.
SPEAKER 05 :
Whatever its claims are.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Yep. So you can't... That's really the major difference. So when you're talking about cleanliness, they should have about the same level of cleanliness between any product that is made that we consume. Now, we know that the FDA is not always able to get into places. So you do have some that sneak in and are unfortunately bad actors within the industry. But you always want to look for those that have been around for a while. have some good reviews, and certainly have been testing their products.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, assumption on my part, maybe this is the wrong assumption, can they do that with out-of-country product? It sounds to me like that's why you want to make sure they're made in the USA, because if they're shipped in from somewhere else, there is no FDA quality control in that particular case. Am I thinking correctly?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it makes it much harder. So the FDA... does say that they can go over and they can start inspecting facilities overseas. And this is even true within the pharmaceutical realm, but it's less often, and oftentimes it's not being done to the level that I would think as Americans we would want it to be done, that we would expect it to be done.
SPEAKER 05 :
Interesting. I again, these are things that I'm learning because I mean, that makes sense. And I also know that depending upon where those are and what country it's in and how easy the access is and so on. Also, I would think come into play with some of what you just mentioned a moment ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And then you also have. the language issues, you've got lots of other things that come into play, and cultural issues that they may think are up to speed in their culture, but for us, we would say it's not quite where we want it to be.
SPEAKER 05 :
Folks, Interian Labs is the place to go. Look no further than that. And, Troy, as always, I always learn so much when you're with us. I appreciate it very much. You're a wealth of information. And I also assume, one thing we don't mention enough, but if folks have questions along any of these lines, I'm assuming they can go right to the website and ask questions, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. We would be happy to help. You can find the phone number there. You can either call or send us an email, and we'll be happy to answer any way we can.
SPEAKER 05 :
Troy, as always, I learn something every time you're on with us, and I appreciate your time greatly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Take care. You're very welcome. Have a great night. Great man, by the way. And, you know, one thing I appreciate, and Charlie and I have talked about this off-air many times. Troy is so humble, has some of the best supplements in the market, and yet you will rarely hear him talk about... his own company i'm the one typically talking about where he's from what he does and so on he's just such a humble individual that personally that's why i think we get along so well as he is not some sort of a you know self-absorbed supplement sales guy that comes on here and just has to push every little thing that he's got in his store because it's just not how he does thing and not how it works and he's just an extremely extremely intelligent individual when it comes to all these things so centurionlabs.com is the place to go Dr. Scott Falkner coming up next. Now, Scott's also very humble, very great guy, by the way, has the ability to help you with individual needs. And again, much like we were talking about with Troy, can tailor things to you specifically that, by the way, typical doctors inside of the regular insurance world and pharma world will not be able to do. 303-663-6990.
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All right. And we are back Health and Wellness Wednesday. And I appreciate you all joining us on Health and Wellness on Wednesdays. And also, by the way, I should mention this. Thank you to a lot of you will actually send me different articles on health and wellness. So I know this hour is valuable to a lot of you listening because you pick up different things and send me different articles and give me ideas or tell me that, hey, I read this about such and such or hey, I saw one of your guests on another nationally syndicated show or podcast or something along those lines. So I appreciate that. I do mean that sincerely. When you guys give me that type of feedback, that's helpful. Not that I don't think we need health and wellness on these Wednesdays. I do think we need it. I've learned a ton in this particular hour over the past whatever we've done at eight, nine, ten years almost now. And it's, again, the information that I learn on a regular basis is fabulous. I did have somebody ask me specifically, please ask Troy what the difference between a high-quality supplement and a low-quality supplement. And again, as I was saying a moment ago, Troy is very humble and not as – how should I say this? I guarantee you, because I know Troy and I've studied his products and so on, his supplements are second to none. Now, one other thing he didn't mention, but I will tell you, there's a difference in cost like with anything else. Now, it's not always true that the more a supplement costs, the better quality it is. But I will tell you that the really, really cheap stuff, it is cheap. And I can guarantee you, in a lot of cases, it's doing nothing for you. It may not even have the ingredients in it that it even claims that it has. whereby a high-quality supplement and a high-quality product, yes, you're going to pay a little bit more money for it, but you're going to know exactly what's in that product and the quality control behind it and a lot of the things that Troy expressed as well. So I would just tell you this. Just go to Centurion Labs and buy your supplements there and avoid a lot of the other, how should I say, a lot of the other not knowing what's actually there. Just go to Centurion Labs instead, and you will know everything that's inside of that particular product. All right, that's it for this first hour. Health and Wellness Wednesday. We'll be back with hour number two. Richard Battle joined us here in just one moment. Don't go anywhere. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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On today’s episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush and Richard Battle tackle the creeping entitlement mindset replacing the “American Can-Do” spirit. From historical figures like Joseph Warren and Madam C.J. Walker to everyday behavior at airports and hotels, they call out selfishness, celebrate self-reliance, and champion a return to honor and personal responsibility. Later, Sonny Kutcher from Young Americans Against Socialism breaks down a growing educational trend: “unschooling.” Is it crazy—or is it exactly what some families need to truly empower kids outside the broken public school system?
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us. Richard, how are you today?
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Good afternoon, John. We're doing great. Thanks for having us back.
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Charlie always asks me, because I was gone over the weekend for Memorial Day, and he always asks me, okay, what's one thing you learned from being gone? And this topic of what you have today kind of fits into something typically I see, especially while I'm out and about, but that is the entitlement mentality versus the American mentality. And Richard, I'm sorry to say, but the more I travel and even go on vacation and things like that, the entitlement mentality, especially among Americans, I don't want to say it's just us because I think this happens in other cultures as well, but the American entitlement mentality is in full swing.
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Well, yes, and it only began in the 20th century because, again, if we look back at our ancestors who built the country and gave it to us, they had that Americandu spirit. They didn't look for anyone to give them anything. They didn't think anyone, including the government, owed them anything. They knew they would have to provide for themselves and their families, and so they made things happen. It was only this last century when people in government wanted to, to create this welfare state and convert it to an entitlement mentality, and we've created all these people who think they cannot do anything.
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Yeah, and again, as I said, it is alive and well, and unfortunately doesn't paint us as Americans in the best of light sometimes.
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Well, no, it doesn't, and that's why I think it's so important for us to discuss it, because the people out there raising kids or influencing grandchildren there's an opportunity to make sure they have the Americandu spirit for their own and their families' and organizations' benefit going forward, and they don't fall into that trap of entitlement that's such limiting and soul-stealing over the long term.
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All right, so let's talk about it. Okay, first of all, what's the differences? Let's start talking about the entitlement mentality, and what is it?
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Well, I think as we say these, people will recognize it, and it appears obvious, but then we've got to avoid them. One is people believe they're entitled to success without any risk at all. And they believe that any setbacks are always somebody else's fault. They always blame others anytime there's something negative that happened. And they believe that they ought to have wealth without achievement or work.
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Which doesn't work, as you know, doesn't work that way. That's just it's almost a a anti. How should I say that, Richard? This is just anti the way life works, period.
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Well, it is. And the two other ones are they think they should have promotions without achievements. And how many times have people hired, especially Gen Xers and Zs, and they expect to be promoted and get a raise within two or three weeks or months of their hiring before they ever really accomplish anything? And then the culmination of it all is there's a self-focus and a belief that they do not or should not be examples for others. And as I tell people, we're all examples to somebody. The only question is, what kind of example are we?
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Yeah, and again, I could go down the list of some of the things I even witnessed over the past just couple of days, over the weekend, over Memorial Day weekend, along these lines, Richard. And unfortunately, I... And this isn't blanket, because there's a lot of great Americans, they do have that can-do spirit, so I don't want to make a blanket statement that, you know, all Americans and all American travelers are this way, although I'm afraid that it's getting worse, not better.
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Well, I think so. I'm hoping that this year and the change of attitude that's going on across the country will help us return to that can-do spirit, and I think there's two ways to do it. One is through suffering. from setbacks or two as people that are inspired and realize that there's a richer life to be had by having that can-do spirit. And there's more to achieve. There's more dignity and fulfillment. There are several benefits to having that spirit individually and for your family.
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Really quick, I want to give you one example of where, and I believe a company is making a distinct change in how they've done things. In fact, it's how they built the company, and there's all sorts of conversation among this particular subject right now, and there's a lot of customers even, because I'm on some of the forums and stuff that are out there, Richard, and I just read some of these things, and there's people that are just extremely upset with the changes, although I will tell you that these changes are a must because of this entitlement mentality, and that's Southwest Airlines. Southwest Airlines is now going to a assigned seat starting in 2026. They have always been, as you know, Richard, they built their entire platform and model, if you would, off of open seating. Come on, you can get some status through various things and maybe get you on the plane a little earlier, get you a better seat, whatever. But the reality is it's been open seating at Southwest for eons. And the reality is, this is my opinion, I don't know this for a fact, But the amount of pre-boarders, which the way the FAA works that is all you have to do is walk up to the counter and say, I need to board the plane early. You don't have to even give any excuse as to why. No doctor's notes, no nothing. All you have to do is say that. Well, that entitlement of I have a problem, I need on the airplane first, which in some cases, Richard, is just simply the fact that you bought the ticket last and you know you're going to be the very last one on. But now that you have got a quote unquote ailment, you can get on first. That is now changing with the signed seating, and I believe it's because of this entitlement mentality.
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Well, I think there's some accuracy in what you're saying, and I question Southwest leadership since Herb Kelleher left. I heard about the baggage fees that they expect to make a billion and a half dollars, but they expect to lose $1.8 billion in business because of it. So I question some of these decisions that they're making overall.
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Well, and again, there's a lot to do over all of it, although I will tell you that the whole pre-board thing, and as I talk to different people in line, when you can watch 20, 25 people come on and Jetway Jesus heals them as they come off, the reality is I think they're – They're having to do this because FAA isn't helping them out in any way, shape, or form. My point is that it's that entitlement of, I need on the airplane first because I booked my ticket late or I don't have any status or I haven't earned that forward position in boarding or whatever, so I'm going to figure out another way to get on because I'm entitled to that.
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Well, I think that's correct, and that spans all of our existence right now. And people, I think... Hopefully, we'll come back to the point of having that can-do spirit and understanding that we're all better when we're individually better and more considerate of others.
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Yeah, and I think to your point, it's that whole, okay, I have others that are around me, and the reality is I didn't earn X, Y, Z, so no, I'm not entitled to that because I didn't earn it. The problem, you know, this goes, you know, we can talk for the next hour on this, unfortunately, Richard, because the way our school systems and others are set up is, you know, everybody gets a prize whether you earned it or not.
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Well, that's exactly right. And so we need to push that can-do spirit because that will solve these issues for multi-generations like we saw before where personal risk, when you go out and have an effort and there's personal risk, that develops that character over time and that character to be able to suffer the setbacks and take personal responsibility for the actions that and that the dignity and fulfillment from hard and smart work, that deferred gratification, that we used to understand that eventually we would get a reward for our efforts, and now it's all instant gratification.
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Correct. Okay. Americans who made America great. Give us some examples, if you would. Americans, I should say, that made America great.
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Well, there's two. One from the current book, Americans Who Made America the 18th Century. Dr. Joseph Warren... was one of our patriot leaders. And most people don't know him, and I'll tell you why in just a minute. But he was a medical doctor. He was involved early on with the independence movement. He's the one that directed Paul Revere and William Dawes on their Midnight Ride. He was a major general in the Continental Army, but instead of staying back and treating the wounded, he fought in combat during Lexington and Concord and then at the Battle of Bunker Hill. And he was killed at the Battle of Bunker Hill in June of 1775, which is why we don't really know his name as well now because – He died more than a year before independence was declared. But here he was. He had the right to stay back at the back lines and take care of the wounded and be out of harm's way. But he led by example and served his fellow colonialists in that action to the point that he sacrificed his life. And we need to remember and honor him for that sacrifice.
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Agreed. Talk about Madam C.J. Walker as well.
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Well, two weeks from now, the 19th century, Americans Who Made America will debut, and Madam C.J. Walker, whose original name was Sarah Breedlove, is a wonderful example of the Americandu spirit, and it'll be in that volume. She was born in 1867, the first African-American child in her family after the Civil War. She left home at 13 to get married to escape her home life. And she worked at menial jobs like taking in laundry and things for a dollar a day. She had a scalp issue. She couldn't find a solution, so she made up her own concoction. She shared it with her friends. She ended up selling it. She created this company, Madam C.J. Walker, and changed her name, became the first. self-made black woman millionaire in the United States. But more than that, she became a philanthropist and felt a duty to help other African-American women succeed in the country, all the while being discriminated against as a woman, as an African-American. But she received none, expected none, any kind of help from anyone else. She knew she had to go out and do it herself.
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Wow. Amazing. Richard, talk to us again about where folks can get all of these books, and if they want them signed by you, how do they do that as well?
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Well, thank you, John. Our website's richardbattle.com. All books are signed there. If you want something inscribed for a gift, which we're happy to do, email me, richard at richardbattle.com. After your order, everything's at Amazon, including Kindle and audio versions.
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Richard, it's always a joy talking to you, and things that I experienced as I was gone fit right into what we were talking about today, so that was perfect timing.
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Well, that's great. We look forward to seeing you next week, and God bless America.
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Thank you, Richard. God bless you as well. Again, Richard Battle, richardbattle.com. Al Smith up next did a great interview of late. Have a listen. We'll be right back once that's over.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? I'm doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
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No, I don't prepare my clients' taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it's working.
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And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
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Well, with so many different taxes we're faced with, it becomes an important thing to take into consideration. It's not how much income you have, but how much you get to keep. In addition to federal and state income taxes, there's property taxes, state and local sales tax, and fees. And they all play a part in shrinking our income.
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What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won't they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
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Well, it depends. Everybody's situation's a little bit different. There's no one size that fits all when it comes to tax planning. But often when I work with people, we'll create a strategy where we will convert traditional IRAs to Roth over time. And that not only reduces taxes in the future, but it will also lower the tax they'll be paying on their Social Security.
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Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
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Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
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Well, that is excellent. And how can people reach you if they want to learn about their own taxation in retirement?
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You can reach me through KLZ or contact my office at 303-744-1128. And when you call, I'll provide you with a summary of all the tax changes for 2025.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, to tie in, because I've got just a short amount of time here between Richard Battle and Sonny Kutcher is going to join us. I found an article and just happened to pop up. And I do think that, yes, your devices listen to you, depending upon what you're saying and so on. Nine things genuinely classy people never do, key word there, never do when staying at a hotel. And these are things, and I know I get off topic at times, and I happened to send Charlie a picture while I was gone in a restaurant. And one of my wife's biggest pet peeves when it comes to being in a restaurant is gentlemen that don't take their hats off to eat. Yeah, that to me is like, you know what? I don't care where you're at. I don't care how... casual you think the place might be. Now, if you're out at a beachside table or something and you're sitting at a plastic picnic table or something along those lines, you want to leave your ball cap on because it's hot out and so on, okay, fine, whatever. I'll give you a pass then. But if you're inside of an establishment eating, I don't care if you're at McDonald's, take your dang hat off. It's called manners, which we don't have anymore. It's why we're classless as Americans on a worldwide basis anymore. It's like people. Do you not know basic manners? Guys, I cannot stress this enough. Take your dang hat off when you're eating lunch, breakfast, dinner, whatever it is. Take your hat off. Okay. Rant and rave about that enough. But number one, in this particular example, they never ignore basic courtesies. A genuine please and thank you. I was watching a video while I was gone of some famous person. I don't know who this person was, but some famous person where somebody was videoing her at a dinner something or other. And the waiter was going to serve her a piece of bread. And she literally looked at him and said, does this look like a body that eats carbs? That was her answer back to the waiter. And, man, she got roasted. Had to come out with a public apology, which you've got to wonder, is it really an apology or not? And that's what this number one is talking about is don't ignore basic courtesies. That guy doesn't know you don't eat carbs. That waiter or waitress doesn't know and, frankly, doesn't care, nor do I. If you don't want to eat it, don't eat it, but you should let him serve it to you regardless and be nice and say thank you. We've lost that. And unfortunately, you take some of these, what they consider to be high rollers, I consider them to be classless individuals where they won't even acknowledge that particular activity. you know, that particular individual that is, quote unquote, serving them. And yes, I get it. They're serving them and you're going to give them a tip and do other things. And how well they do might even be based upon how well your tip is. But, you know, don't ignore basic courtesies. And this goes to the next one. Never treat staff like servants. They're not. Yes, they are there serving you, but guess what? It's their job, and we should treat other humans with respect regardless of their status in life and be nice to them. It's like the story I've given you guys many, many times whereby there's a lot of times where I leave this building, and I'm one of the – Charlie and I together are typically some of the last ones out. And the housekeeping crew is typically coming in and starting their shift as Charlie and I are leaving. And I'm always very thankful to them as they're coming in saying, you know, hey, ladies, you know, and they are on this building, all ladies. But I thank them. Thank you for doing what you're doing. I appreciate you very much. I know they don't hear that a lot. In fact, they probably get just the opposite. But I want them to know that I'm thankful that they're here cleaning. So in the next day I come in, even into my studio, it's vacuumed, it's nice and so on. Yeah, and Charlie says they don't really see a lot of people at that hour. We might be some of the only ones they see, but I make a special attempt to thank them as I'm leaving and they're coming in, and I always get a nice smile, and I know they appreciate it because I guarantee you they don't just get that a lot. So again, don't treat staff... Like servants. This one's good. They never take anything that isn't nailed down. And you know what? I have heard stories from people that have worked at hotels and so on of the stuff that walks out the door, and you would be shocked to hear some of the things that people steal out of hotel rooms. I mean, everything from not just, you know, towels and soap and things like that, but pictures and lamps and things along those lines. And it's like, first of all, who'd want to take that junk home? Second of all, it's not yours. It belongs to them. Now, is it okay to take the extra Q-tips they've put that or that extra shower cap or whatever the case may be, whether you used it or not? Is it okay to take those items? Absolutely. You're paying for the room. Those things are included in the price of that room. If you want to take the four-pack of Q-tips, be my guest. I don't care. Yeah, I'm a soap collector. So, yeah, I'm one of those where, yes, if there's unused soap, I'm taking it home. That's probably why hotels now put it in bottles on the wall and they don't let you have it openly anymore is because a guy is like me. Because, yes, I'll take that. Yes, I'm that guy. But I also am not one to take even the notepads and the pens and things like that or the extra coffee that might be there, you know, if it's a pod-type system or whatever. I've got better things to do. I'm not packing that junk back home. I'm just not one of those type of individuals. Even though a lot of that stuff is included, I'm not taking the pens and the pads home. Be my guest. I'm not stealing the Gideon Bible, for example. Even though the Gideons will replace it, I'm not taking the Gideon Bible home. Not that important to me. Never make a racket in shared spaces. In other words, when you're out in – this is a big one for me. This is one of my other pet peeves. When you're in the elevator or you're in the lounge area or you're in the hallways, be quiet. Shut up. I don't care if it's 4 in the afternoon. Somebody may have had a really long trip. They may have just gotten in. They may have just checked in at 3.30, and they're taking a nap. That doesn't mean you can run up and down the hallway and be super loud. So mind where you're at and be aware of it and try to be quiet so you're not bothering the others that are actually there paying for their room as well. In other words, you're not the only one there. It's not your hotel. Number five, they never skip tipping, of course, where it's appropriate. But that means, you know, your bell staff, your housekeeper. If somebody brings you room service, I mean, anything along those lines. Yes, you should be tipping those individuals. I get questions even personally on that. You know, how much do I leave? And it will depend upon, you know, where I'm at, what type of resort is it, and so on. But, yeah, no, I tip anybody that helps me out. Period. Even if it's a guy that just hails a taxi and helps you load bags, am I tipping him? Yes. Am I going to tip the guy that even gets the taxi for me but maybe doesn't even help me get the bags in because a taxi driver does? Yes. Those people are literally usually working on tips. Am I going to tip the valet person? Absolutely. I mean, you name it. If tipping is in accordance, then tip them. Now, am I going to tip the guy that just flips a screen around that put the bagel in the bag? No. And I'm not tipping that person. That's different. That's a whole different scenario, and no, I'm not tipping them, and I don't think they should be. But in regards to the folks at a hotel and so on, am I going to tip according to some of these things that we just talked about? Absolutely. Never abuse the amenities. In other words, if they provide a pool or a gym or a business center, you know – Be careful of how you're leaving things behind. If you go use the computer at the business center because maybe something happened with your laptop or you've got to go print something or something to that nature, put the chair back where it was. Put everything back in place like it was. Don't leave a bunch of dirty fingerprints. And if you bring your kids in, don't let them have their lollipops and all of their nastiness all over the place where they're dirtying up the entire business center. Make sure that stuff is nice and clean. And if anything, leave it better dirty. than the way you found it. That's the way I would do it. That's the way I was taught to do it. I know a lot of you listening would do the exact same thing. Number seven, they never act oblivious to local customs. Yeah, you guys can travel in all sorts of different areas, and different customs apply depending upon where you are. And you guys know what I mean by that. I don't have to get into the exact details of that. Depending upon where you travel to, you know exactly what I mean by that. Never ignore House rules, even if they seem minor. For example, if you're a smoker, which I'm not, but if you're a smoker and they're smoking only in certain areas, well, then abide by that. Abide by that. If you're supposed to be parking in guest check-in, then don't just pull up into the curb in front where you're blocking all the traffic from everybody else being able to come underneath the canopy. Those sorts of things. Abide by the rules that they have set. Number nine, they never forget that others are also on vacation or a business trip just like they are. So whether that be loud music, whether that be all sorts of other things that might be going on, remember there's other people there as well. Not just you. And again, the whole topic of this is this is what wealthy people do when they go stay at places. Classy, wealthy people do when they stay at places, act like them. And I'm sorry to say this, but don't act like a lot of the other trashy Americans that travel around the world because there's a lot of them. I'm sorry to say, there's a lot of them. I could go on and on about this particular topic and the things that I observe when I'm out. Don't be one of them. Be classier than that. And especially for a lot of you that are conservatives, Christians as well, you know what? People know that that's what you are. A lot of times they can tell by your conversation where you stand, especially politically. A lot of them, one of those where you pray in public over your meal and things like that. Yeah. watch how you behave the rest of the time because they're watching everything that you do. And by the way, be a guest that they want to welcome back, not a guest that they never want to see again. I think for us, my wife and I especially, that's how we like to leave. We want to leave so that if we ever go back there, they want us back. In fact, they might even greet you by name when you come back. That tells you, by the way, how well you actually did with your stay the last time around. And I want to be welcomed back. I don't want to be one of those where they dread that you're coming back. 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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sonny Kutcher joining us now. Young Americans Against Socialism. Sonny, how are you today?
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Doing well. Hope everyone had a wonderful Memorial Day weekend, remembering those who paid the highest sacrifice.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Amen. Amen. All right. Something that we're going to talk about today, which I know very little about. I found an article that I had sent to you because I thought it fit in well with what you guys are trying to do at Young Americans Against Socialism. I don't really even know yet, Sonny, where I stand on this. I've got to do a little bit more research to even determine, is this right? Is this wrong? Is this goofy? Are these particular parents on the right track, the wrong track? But there's this new trend called unschooling. Explain what that is.
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Absolutely. So unschooling, yes, it's actually relatively new to me as well. It's different from traditional homeschooling because homeschooling would follow a curriculum, whereas unschooling does not follow any curriculum. There would be no homework, no assignment. It's really a program, so to speak, that a family would do in their home and in the privacy of their family. where the child leads what type of learning they might be interested in. So one of the videos that I had shared that I found on Twitter from his handle is at Classic Learner. His name is Brett Pike, and he has created many books and different things, you know, similar to, you know, in the nature of what we do at YAS, where we create resources and guides for kids to learn from, where he discusses how unschooling, say, your child is really into learning I don't necessarily think video games are the best activity, but for whatever reason he uses a sample, okay, they're into video games, so maybe let's learn about coding. And so you really let the child thrive in whichever field or industry or topic that they are drawn to, are led to. And then he showed some really interesting examples of how you can start to build out So, you know, he talked about financial literacy as another example where he has, you know, created, you know, activities for kids to learn financial literacy. And then he would say, OK, one of the activities could be, you know, you go to you find a couple of different businesses or restaurants. or shops, for example, where they have Facebook pages, but they don't necessarily have websites, and you want to help them, you know, build out their website, you would contact the restaurant and help them learn, get in contact with the restaurant and say, hey, I'd love to build your website for free, you know, things like that, where the child is really brought to deepen their knowledge and learning of something that they are drawn to.
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Interesting. And again, like I said, I've not studied enough to know, is this just a bunch of, you know, wackadoodle parents? Are they really on to something? And again, I don't know how they do some of the basics of, OK, you know, how do you put a proper sentence together? How do you do proper punctuation? How do they do spelling? Because, I mean, I think, Sonny, at the end of the day, kids still need a certain amount of practice. Structure maybe isn't the right word, but they need a certain amount of learning along those lines to even know what 2 plus 2 is and what's 4 plus 4 and so on. Although I am not opposed, Sonny, to every kid is different. And no, I don't believe that in a lot of cases the very structured environment that we put kids through, I will tell you straight up that I don't think that's always best either because some kids don't learn at the same level as another kid might. And I do think that that flexibility helps a lot of kids grow. At the end of the day, and oh, by the way, they're not getting all the wokeism inside of the public school, at least in this particular case. These kids aren't getting all of the wokeism they would get inside the public school, depending upon how mom and dad are. I guess I should probably put a caveat there. If mom and dad are super woke and they're doing the unlearning end of things or the unschooling, then kids are going to be just as woke as they are. Although, Sonny, I am guessing that most of the people doing the unschooling are not in that woke category.
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I don't know. Yeah, I'm unclear. But I would say that, you know, these are probably a lot of the, you know, more crunchy families. Let's say that's like kind of a term that people use for people who go off the beaten path or a little bit less traditional or unorthodox in their type of learning. You know, parents of the gentle parenting type. And I do think that there are a lot of benefits to this mentality when it comes to parenting and education because, as you were mentioning, in the public school system, well, first of all, it's been completely infiltrated, so you, of course, have more control over what your child is learning, for one. But for two, obviously, bullying, peer pressure, the technology that is incorporated into the schooling structure so much. So many teachers talk about how their students will get a computer or an iPad from the first day, and they basically just have that in class all day long. their screens they you know they're on their phones the entire time the teachers have such we actually i did a whole twitter thread on this because of that there was a teacher who made a really great video and she was saying how she was leaving the education field and she was actually quite young as a teacher and she was teaching 10th grade and she just said you know they don't want to learn they don't want to listen they don't put their phones down they have zero attention span they don't they don't want to learn they just rather would sit you know with a movie playing and they're on their phones i mean schooling now is just it's 180 degrees difference opposite from what it was at least when I went to school we had laptops too but it was like okay we're doing a project we're going to take this hour we're bringing the laptops in you know use the laptops whatever but it was restricted you couldn't go on any site you know it was like school restricted of what you could do on that computer you know and many of the kids especially like before middle school we didn't have cell phones you know so it was like that was still a relatively new thing and of course even Generation Z older than older than me so i think you know there are such incredible benefits to following these types of unorthodox paths um and of course it depends like you said on the family a lot of families can't do this because they're working um but and i think that there could be a you know you want your child to be also socially introduced and you know work with kids and so I think another layer to it could be a pod, like a schooling pod where you have kids get together and you spend a couple hours and they do activities together. I think that the good thing about these different types of schooling paths is that what is most important is that we are starting to think about what is most beneficial and advantageous for the child's learning. Like you said, children learn at different times. rates and paces and their strengths and weaknesses are different. And I feel like for the first time, people are actually taking that into account instead of just plopping kids into the seats for eight hours and being confused or frustrated when they're not able to sit still for eight hours a day.
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No, again, like I said, as I read through this today, I'm like, okay, I can see some benefit to this. I think I'd still, as a parent, I'd still want some structure to make sure that my kids can be financially sound. They can speak correctly. They're using proper grammar and spelling and so on. But I also know, Sonny, that in a lot of kids' cases, between the parent and the child, you could teach a lot of kids those very things in a very short amount of time and have those kids even be way ahead of their quote unquote structured student counterparts that are going to public school, by the way. And again, I'm not against this. I guess I just need to learn a little bit more about this. How does it work? And at the end of the day, how do they, quote, unquote, get these kids credentialed? I mean, do all these kids have to go get a GED because there's really no high school diploma? That's the one thing the article doesn't talk about that I don't understand how that part works.
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Absolutely. Well, they do discuss how, of course, every state has different requirements.
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Right.
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for the schooling departments. You know, you'll need to let them know progress or different things like that, or maybe a certificate at the end of each year. And so, of course, some states are more lenient than others. But honestly, I think that this is like a niche. Like, I feel like there are a lot of different organizations who could come in here and actually, and there are, the article does talk about one in particular, which I'll find the name of, but where, oh, it's called the Alliance for Self-Directed Learning.
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ASDE. ASDE.
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increasing awareness and accessibility to unschooling. So this, yeah, this is a great niche for programs to come in and help parents and families who are interested in this have the ability, have the resources, have the, you know, and of course, you know, you need to be a family where you are interested in really helping your child develop their education. You know, it's like, OK, yeah, at a certain age when they're three, four, five, six, seven, you know, playing outside, like doing, you know, in nature, I think sensory learning is super important. But obviously there I would think that this could be a nice moment for nonprofits to come in and programs to come in and help families say, OK, what? Even though we want it to be as unstructural as possible and really let the child lean, lean into their strengths. How can we create some regiment there so we know that they are covering those bases?
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I agree. And this is where I think you guys, Young Americans Against Socialism, you've got the ability. And for those of you listening, when it comes to especially those of you that are homeschooling and doing things along those lines, Sonny, you guys have got curriculum that not only helps kids that are in school, but I've said this before, you could even be somebody like me, my age, where you may not have a lot of experience. you know, constitutional foundational things, you may have not learned a lot of that in school, depending upon where you went to school, or it's been so long ago, you've forgotten about some of those things. You guys' curriculum, Sunny, is for all ages. You don't have to be in school to actually do your curriculum, is my point.
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Absolutely. And I think it speaks to the section that maybe a lot of families wouldn't cover, which is history. We know that in the public school system, history is completely, you know, just greenwashed and redwashed, communism, climate change, all the woke ideologies that have been, you know, imposed upon what kids learn in school, not to mention the teachers' biases in any direction. And so I think that that's a huge problem that families are running into, and that could be actually a major factor in why they are turning to different, you know, schooling journeys for their children. But absolutely, our resources, which you can find at yass.org, Educate Freedom is our, you know, educational platform, and And these can be used in whichever capacity you like. I think that just talking about these topics with your child, helping them understand the values and the morals and the lessons that come from learning about history, learning about freedom, and, of course, what happens in other countries, authoritarian regimes, where we don't live the same way and why we live the way we live in America as far as it you know, as far as economic independence, freedom goes. And so absolutely use it in any capacity that you wish. And I think it would actually pair really well with families who are doing this type of unschooling or homeschooling, of course, and things of that nature.
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Awesome. Sunny, as always, I appreciate it very much. Appreciate your time with us each week. Enjoy the rest of your day.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're very welcome.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you for your audience. We'll talk soon.
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All right. One last story that I'm going to – I told Charlie I would give him during the break a moment ago concerning a lot of what I was talking about with not only Richard Battle, but then following up with what do – Not even just wealthy people, but what do people that have proper manners do when they stay at hotels, resorts and things like that? So I want to share an example where this is what you don't do. Happened over the weekend. And I know these were conservative Trump supporting people because I could hear the conversations. That's why I was saying earlier that the people that are there and that are around you are going to know why. what you stand for because when you're talking especially among yourselves and it's loud because it gets that way at times because you're trying to talk over sometimes other things that might be happening music or whatever and the reality is people are going to hear what you're saying so this is another huge pet peeve of mine and if you're somebody that does this please for the love of god stop so i'm one of those where you guys all know me i get it pretty early And because of that, I usually go down to the pool or wherever it is you're going to go hang out, and I stake out my real estate, I guess you could call it. And I save whatever chairs I'm going to need for, you know, my wife and I. In this case, it's two. Now, I will tell you that even when I had lots of kids coming and so on, I even did things differently then, and I'm going to use that example with this particular example. So I also am one where, you know, there's prime real estate and there's not such prime real estate, and it just depends on the mood I'm in as to where I want to sit and so on. But I get down there early enough where I pretty much have my own pick, and I just kind of go wherever I want to. My wife calls me the mayor of the pool because I'm usually the first one there. Anyways, long story. I'll make it as short as I can. I'm in my spot, and there's no one else there. And I'm also one of those where I don't just go put stuff down and leave. I feel like that's also very rude. If you're going to go put your stuff down, hang out because I think it's extremely rude to put stuff down on chairs and then go vanish for the next five hours, which I've watched people do. I think it's even rude to do it for an hour. Personally, that's just my own opinion. Others may argue with me, but that's my opinion. If you're going to go stake out your real estate, then hang out. Or don't put your stuff there and take your chances later in the day. If you want to sleep in or do whatever you want to do, be my guest. You don't have to be up at 530 in the morning like I am, but do whatever you want to go do. But again, if you get up at noon, don't expect to come down and find prime real estate when it comes to a pool chair. So in this particular case, there was a family of, and I'm not exaggerating, there were 24 individuals among three families. that came down and staked out 24 chairs in its prime real estate. I mean, right against the pool of water, prime real estate. Not back a little ways to where it wouldn't bother so many people that wanted to come down and get chairs, but 24 chairs all in a row right at poolside, and there's two people saving 24 chairs. And it got to the point where there was one small kid saving 24 chairs. That, to me, is not cool, not kosher. And, yes, these were Trump supporters because I could hear the conversations that were happening throughout the rest of the day because I literally was sitting within feet of where all of these folk were. And again, is that a good example of what we as conservatives should do? And some of you say, well, John, what's the problem? They needed 24 seats. They don't need 24 seats of prime real estate, especially when over two thirds of them are kids that aren't sitting in the chair most of the day anyways, because they're in the pool. You know, if that's what you want, then, you know, if you're adults and there was about six adults, OK, take the six adults, put them in prime real estate and go put the kids off behind you somewhere to where they're not going to be sitting there anyway. So who cares? So that's another one of those entitlement things that I feel like at times people have. And it happens on both sides of the aisle, liberal or conservative. And this particular case, these were conservatives because I could hear from the conversations talking about business and Trump and this and that and so on. And great. I mean, I was in agreement with them on all of that. What I wasn't in agreement with is how they staked out all of their real estate. And again, I'm not the only one that notices those things. All of the other folk that are around the pool notice the same things. And to me personally, it's just not setting a really good example for our side of the aisle when you do stupid things like that. And yes, to me, that's a stupid move. You're not entitled to 24 chairs of the best real estate that's there when all of your people aren't even there yet because they're all still sleeping. If you want 24 chairs and you want prime real estate, fine. Wake them all up. Get their butts out of bed. Get them down there in a chair and have at it. If you want to do that, then knock your socks off. I have no issues with that. But if you're going to go save 24 chairs for people that might show up, in some cases, some of the people didn't show up, and I'm not exaggerating, two hours later, No, that doesn't work for me. That is where, again, I feel like that's back to Richard Battle's conversation about being entitled. And that entitlement is even on our side of the aisle because, again, as I heard all the conversations going on, I knew what side of the aisle they were on. And, no, I didn't chime in because, frankly, I was put out by the fact that, you know, you're just giving all of us a bad name by the way that you're acting in the first place. And, no, I'm not going to participate in all of that. And you don't need to know who I am. So I'm not going to go there as far as all that goes. Anyways, that's another thing from – Staying at places that I also wasn't in that my list of things that you that we talked about when it comes to what, you know, people that have class do. But what I will tell you is what people with class do is they don't save prime real estate next to the pool for their 24 guests when some of them might not show up for two or three hours later because they're up in the room sleeping, whatever it is they did the night before off. That to me is a put off and you shouldn't be doing that because it's a put off to the staff that are there as well. Roof Savers of Colorado. Dave's going to join me, by the way, at 5 o'clock and talk about some of the door knockers and things that are going on with a lot of the storms as I even look to the west at a big rainstorm that just came through up against the foothills. If you find yourself in a situation where you've got extensive damage from storms, hang tight. We'll be talking to Dave at 5 o'clock. 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Rich guy.
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Ordinary. Rich guy.
This episode of The Mike Gallagher Show navigates the complexities of America's current political climate. With in-depth discussions on fiscal policies, public reactions to Trump's appearances, and the stark divide in American politics, Mike brings a unique perspective on what it means to 'Make America Great Again.' Plus, learn about the heartfelt Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign aimed at supporting children through summer.
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I've been thinking a lot about President Trump's superpower. You know what his superpower is? His superpower is baiting Democrats and his political opponents into taking positions that ordinary Americans find repulsive. For example, are you really against the idea of making America great? Does that really offend you? Over the weekend, Memorial Day weekend, President Trump spoke at Arlington National Cemetery. He also gave a rousing commencement address to West Point. They were offended. They were very offended at his speech at West Point. You want to know what they were offended by? And the speech was just powerful. Pete Hegseth's speech was magnificent. I hope you treated yourself to some of the... the oratorical skills of the 45th and 47th president and the defense secretary. Because both Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump gave magnificent speeches and addressed the nation in a patriotic, powerful way. But they weren't happy, as I know you won't be surprised to hear, but maybe you'll be a little surprised a little flummoxed, a little mystified at what it is they're upset about. I give you Amy McGrath from MSNBC.
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It's very – it's shameful, first of all. Not only his words there, the rambling, the talking about trophy wives and – like Al Capone, but the inappropriate attire. I just mentioned the ball cap. You know, Donald Trump either doesn't know or doesn't care about what's appropriate for the military, and he is not surrounded by anyone like Mattis or McMaster or Kelly anymore to simply say, hey, sir, take the ball cap off. And that's really unfortunate. And I wish that we had, you know, the superintendent of the military academy perhaps could have said to him, hey, take it off, sir. Please don't do a pass and review in front of the Corps of Cadets with a campaign attire on. Is it unconstitutional? No. Is it totally inappropriate in a politicization of our military? Absolutely. And it's never been done before. So it's not just the words. It's just his actions there at West Point. Terrible.
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They really are offended by Make America Great Again. They take that as a pejorative. And that's his superpower. He gets people like that bitter, angry, retired lieutenant colonel. a Trump-hating ex-military woman named Amy McGrath, and baits them into saying, I'm offended that the president would wear his familiar red baseball cap because they are repelled by that red cap. The red cap sums up everything that's wrong in America right now. They think that everything that's wrong with America is summed up in those four words. Make America great again. Now, I saw one guy, one actor, who I like, Bryan Cranston. He's a great actor. He gave an interview where he said, now come on, let's be real here. If you're black, did you really ever think America was ever great again? How offensive is it? And that's what... Sometimes they say the quiet part out loud. They don't ever think this country has been great. How can you make the country great again when it's never been great to begin with? That's their warped thinking. That's how nuts they are. This Amy McGrath is a nut. She's looking into a camera and intoning that she's offended... Buy a red baseball cap. And by the way, not to be mean here, who the hell are you to tell the commander-in-chief what he can or can't wear when he gives a speech at West Point? You're a retired lieutenant colonel in the Air Force or whatever you are and a failed political candidate. You're nobody. MSNBC gravitates to you because you're just going to bag on Trump. But who are you? Nobody's going to tell you what to wear. And it's not just her. Michael Steele. Boy, this piece of work. This guy who used to be the head of the RNC. And he's MSNBC's favorite kind of character. Because they love nobody more than a former Republican. And that's what Michael Steele is all about. He was offended by Trump's West Point commencement speech.
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Look, I have not had the good fortune and honor to serve in our military, and I was beyond offended knowing some folks who were graduates sitting in that audience. It was hard, I think, in many respects, because this was not, in my view, a military graduation. It was, in fact, a campaign rally.
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That's right. So you're offended because you're perpetually offended, Michael Steele. These people are miserable. They're just miserable, unhappy, bitter, angry, sullen brats. They're a bunch of spoiled brats who didn't get their way. The election didn't go the way they wanted it to go. And now all they do is march around and whine about how miserable they are. That's Trump's superpower. That's what he's good at. In fact, he's a specialist. They're specialists at that. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome, man. Hope you had a nice, relaxing Memorial Day, and perhaps you certainly remembered why we honor those who have fallen over Memorial Day. We have a lot to cover today. It's a big breaking news Tuesday. Many thanks to Joey Hudson for filling in for me Friday, recharging the batteries a little bit, and ready to get a talk show off my chest. 800-655-MIKE. We've got a lot of great things to share with you here in the Relief Factor studios for a busy Tuesday. I want to put your voice front and center. Do you agree with me that Trump's real superpower is baiting them into acting like a bunch of kooks? His real gift is getting his opponents to look like wild-eyed lunatics. Imagine being against the message, make America great again. Let that sink in. Imagine being opposed to that. And yet, they are. 800-655-6453. Your voice, your call, your perspective. Coming up, PhD weight loss has changed my life. And I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition. A proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network. Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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There are a lot of headlines and a lot of breaking news for this Tuesday, the final Tuesday of the month of May. Man, the year is flying by, isn't it? Blink of an eye, we're going to be into June. Before you know it, the 4th of July. It'll be, of course, summertime. Then before you know it, the fall and Thanksgiving and Christmas. I don't know if it's the older you get, the faster time goes. It's just bizarre how it's already May 27th. We're in the middle of our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign, and man, are we off to a great start. Let's keep it going. I want to keep the momentum going because we've got almost 300 kids sponsored already after just a week of our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign. That's a big kind of Memorial Day celebration. kick off the summertime tradition here at the Mike Gallagher Show, where you could sponsor a child and send them to a Christian summer camp. And these are children of American prisoners. So you're going to send a child on a path that is a whole different direction from maybe the path that their mom or dad has taken. And it's just a real joyful time for us here at Team Gallagher. We love, love, love seeing the response. This audience gets so excited about our prison fellowship campaign. I mean, right now we've got 273 kids sponsored. It costs $200 to send a child to a Christ-centered summer camp. Kids are going to be with other kids. Joey did a great job Friday guest hosting for me. And we're knocking on the door. We're knocking on the door of 300 kids. Our goal is 455. So I hope you'll take a moment and go to mikeonline.com. Click on that Prison Fellowship banner at the top of the page. And please support our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign. There's no audience like this one. And I get so excited. It's a joy to come to work just to see how many wonderful people donations we're going to get. Right now, 273 out of our goal of 455. You're doing it. Let's keep it going. Let's keep that momentum going. Please go to mikeonline.com and contribute to our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree Summer Camp. Big headline over the weekend, a lot of headlines. I mean, Memorial Day, Trump gave speeches at West Point and at Arlington. Pete Hegseth was magnificent at Arlington. Maybe the big political bombshell was the story from the New York Times, how Donald Trump has remade America's political landscape. The New York Times did an extensive, lengthy, deep dive into the political makeup of America. And the Times claims that Trump's victory in 2024 was not an outlier. It was the culmination of continuous gains by Republicans in much of the country each time he has run for president. A sea of red that amounts to a flashing warning sign for a Democratic Party out of power and hoping for a comeback. The steady march, and I'm quoting right from the pages of the New York Times, the steady march to the right at the county level reveals not just the extent of the nation's transformation in the Trump era, but also the degree to which the United States now resembles two countries charging in opposite directions. The New York Times analysis is America is lurching dramatically to the right, that Trump is remaking the country in his image. And I call BS on this article, and let me tell you why. I think the New York Times, which is committed to the utter defeat of President Trump's agenda, as they all are on the left. Look, I mean, it is what it is. We want their agenda to fail. They want our agenda to fail. We get it. We're a two-party nation. But I call BS on this claim that the New York Times is throwing in the towel and claiming that Trump has turned the country red. We've always known that if you look at a map of counties and states in America, we've always known that it's a sea of red. We are a conservative majority country. The left is loud, but they are in the minority, especially the far left. You've got pockets of Oregon and New York City and San Francisco and L.A. and Chicago. You've got big blue cities, of course, that have a Democrat stronghold. But you look at the country overall, we are a Republican country. Now, they hate that. The Trump opponents don't ever want to acknowledge it, but they know it's true. However, however, look at elections that have taken place in 2025. Special elections. One-offs. Have you seen who's been winning? Even in elections that the Republican was expected to win? Don't look now, but the Democrats have been winning. Now, there's all kinds of anecdotal evidence that things are going in the right direction. Rasmussen came out with a poll today, first time in their polling history, that a majority of Americans feel that we are finally on the right track. It's a slim majority, but it's a majority nonetheless. I trust that that's true. Normal people like what's happening. Normal, ordinary Americans are very pleased with the direction of the country. The hysterics are not. The people who are the loyal opposition to Trump and Republicans, they're mortified. They're angry. They're bitter. They're irate. They're complaining about Trump's speech at West Point because he had his red MAGA hat on. They couldn't believe that he had a hat on. I saw some goofy woman on MSNBC whining about how inappropriate it was that he wore his red MAGA hat. Michael Steele over on MSNBC, I'm very offended. I'm very offended. I'm continually offended at Donald Trump. Well, we know that. You guys are in a state of perpetual offense. You're bitter. You're miserable. You're mean. You're angry. We get that. But when I see this big article in the New York Times, and the media was breathlessly reporting on this, even conservative media, oh, oh, look at the New York Times, how Trump has remade America's political landscape. Oh, isn't this great? It's a sea of red, county after county, community after community turning Republican. Uh-huh. Look at elections in 2025. If we screw up this big, beautiful bill, we're going to be in big trouble. We're going to be in a lot of trouble. Republicans have an ability to snatch defeat right out of the jaws of victory. We have the votes. We have the momentum. We have a lot going for us right now. And along comes a good guy like Senator Ron Johnson, Wisconsin. I like this guy a lot. I do not like what he's saying about Trump's big, beautiful bill.
SPEAKER 06 :
I couldn't care less if he's upset. I'm concerned about my children, my grandchildren, and the fact that we are stealing from them. We are stealing from our children and grandchildren $37 trillion in debt, and we're going to add to it as Republicans? That is unacceptable. And that's why there's no way I'm going to vote for this bill in its current form.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, good. Your music, those words are music to the Democrat Party's ears. They're praying for Ron Johnson's to emerge victorious. They want Rand Paul to win. They want the naysayers. And let me just stipulate, Ron Johnson is right. We are adding to the deficit. We get it. We get it. You got to walk before you can run. You got to start somewhere. Here's Rand Paul.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, the bigger a bill, the more it includes, the more difficult it is to get everybody to agree to things. I supported the tax cuts in 2017. I support making them permanent, so I support that part of the bill. I support spending cuts. I think the cuts currently in the bill are wimpy and anemic, but I still would support the bill, even with wimpy and anemic cuts. if they weren't going to explode the debt. The problem is the math doesn't add up. They're going to explode the debt by, the House says $4 trillion. The Senate's actually been talking about exploding the debt $5 trillion. This year in September, when our fiscal year ends, the deficit will be about $2.2 trillion. Now, people used to always say, the Republicans would say, what's Bidenomics? That's Biden's spending levels. When March, every Republican, virtually every Republican other than me, voted to continue the Biden spending levels. which are going to give us a $2.2 trillion deficit. Now, if you increase the debt ceiling $4 to $5 trillion, that means they're planning on $2 trillion this year and more than $2 trillion next year. That's just not conservative. So I've told them if they strip out the debt ceiling, I'll consider, even with the imperfections, voting for the rest of the bill. But I can't vote to raise the debt ceiling $5 trillion. There's got to be someone left in Washington who thinks debt is wrong and deficits are wrong and wants to go in the other direction. The idea that we're going to explode deficits and the projections are now looking at over $3 trillion in deficits over the next 10 years, I think is just, you know, not a serious proposal.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what is a greater problem than exploding deficits? Giving the Democrats their desperately needed victory. You either trust Trump or you don't. And I think it's fair to say that the Rand Pauls and the Ron Johnsons of the world don't trust Trump. You heard what Ron Johnson said at the beginning of that soundbite. He doesn't care what Trump thinks. He doesn't care. He cares about deficits and spending. And I get it. Why haven't they made these doge cuts permanent? Elon Musk has kind of given up. Have you seen what Elon has been saying lately? Essentially, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. And a whole lot of Republicans are afraid to drink. I don't buy the New York Times' alarmist article that Trump has remade America's political landscape. I think this is a truly deep fake. I believe the New York Times... is using reverse psychology and trying to motivate their base into making sure that they move heaven and earth to defeat Republicans. Republicans like Ron Johnson and Rand Paul shouldn't help them. Maybe you see it differently. Let's find out. I want to turn it over to you, 800-655-MIKE. Welcome aboard. Thanks again to Joey Hudson for filling in on Friday. I had a little long weekend to recharge the batteries. Remember those who have fallen and served our country over Memorial Day? Got some great sound from Pete Hegseth and President Trump from over the weekend. We'll share that with you as well. But in the meantime, here in the Relief Factor studios, I want to put your voice front and center. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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SPEAKER 14 :
This was a huge, huge victory for Trump. I think there were really three heroes here. Obviously, President Trump and then Mike Johnson, who has an almost impossible job. And then I have to say, Chip Roy raised some objections to the bill last week. And I happen to agree with some of those objections. And you know what? They made it into a better bill. And so now this goes to the Senate. I think the Senate will act sometime before Fourth of July.
SPEAKER 10 :
In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I don't want to beat up on these guys too much. In fact, I won't even call them grandstanders. They're not grandstanding. I believe that Ron Johnson is sincere. I know that Rand Paul is true to his beliefs. I get it. I really do. But like you just heard, the Senate now has to make it a better bill. And I trust they will. We've got to trust the process, not panic. But let's remember what we're up against. Here's a headline over at Newsmax. GOP senators, the Big Beautiful Bill falls short on debt. At least four Senate Republicans are saying they support many of the components of President Trump's Big Beautiful Bill, but they fear the House-passed legislation falls short of reducing annual federal deficits that are projected to keep growing... Rick Scott from here in Florida, Republican, said, I want to get a deal done. I support the president's agenda. I support the border. I support the military. I support extending the Trump tax cuts. But we have to live in reality. We have got a fiscal crisis. Okay. Then get it done. Figure out how to get it done. And don't say no for the sake of saying no. We cannot afford to give this guy... A defeat. And here's the guy that I'm talking about. Spoke at Arlington Cemetery. They're livid that he went to West Point with a red MAGA hat on. That's what they're reduced to. The Democrats are reduced to like theater kids. Did you see Scott Pelley over the weekend at Wake Forest? Just lambasting President Trump. Free speech is under attack. They're panicking. Because Americans don't trust CBS, NBC, ABC anymore. Americans aren't getting their news from the legacy media anymore. And they don't know what to do about it. So all they can do is lash out. All they can do is flail about. Because this guy is winning. Here he was at Arlington Cemetery.
SPEAKER 12 :
Each of the service members who have made the supreme sacrifice for our nation has also left an unfillable void and an unbreakable silence in the lives of all who love them. For the families of the fallen, you feel the absence of your heroes every day in the family. These are great families. These are wonderful families. In the familiar laugh no longer heard, the empty space at Sunday dinner, or the want of a hug or a pat on the back that will never come again. Every Gold Star family fights a battle long after the victory is won, and today we lift you up and we hold you high. Thank you, thank you, thank you for giving America the brightest light in your lives. It's what you've done. We will never, ever forget our fallen heroes, and we will never forget our debt to you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, Trump haters were offended by that. If you don't like Donald Trump, somehow you found fault with that message. He gave a rousing speech at West Point. It was terrific. You know what they were mad about? He had a red MAGA hat on. Amy McGrath is some retired lieutenant colonel and I believe a failed political candidate. And she goes running over to MSNBC to whine about his Make America Great Again hat that he had on his head.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's shameful, first of all. Not only his words there, the rambling, the talking about trophy wives and girls like Al Capone, but the inappropriate attire. I just mentioned the ball cap, you know. Donald Trump either doesn't know or doesn't care about what's appropriate for the military. And he is not surrounded by anyone like Mattis or McMaster or Kelly anymore to simply say, hey, sir, take the ball cap off.
SPEAKER 11 :
There it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
There it is.
SPEAKER 11 :
is that those backstabbers, Mad Dog Mattis and Kelly, the opportunists who wanted their 15 minutes in the Oval Office and then went out and stabbed him in the back and wrote books and did tell-alls and betrayed Trump, that's who Amy McGrath wants back in the Oval Office. She wants more backstabbers. And pardon me, but who in the heck are you to tell the commander-in-chief what he is or isn't permitted to wear at a commencement speech? I'll bet she didn't complain about Scott Pelley attacking the Trump administration at Wake Forest. Now, that's a good commencement speech. She wouldn't care if Scott Pelley wore a Ronald McDonald clown suit. That'd be fine with her. Trump wears a MAGA hat? Oh, no. Oh, my gosh. Brutal. Brutal. These people are nuts. And I say it over and over again. Trump's superpower, his amazing, astounding superpower, is he baits them into sounding like fanatical lunatics. Imagine objecting to the expression, make America great again. Think of it. Let that sink in. That's shameful. Shameful that he would wear a red baseball hat that says, make America... There's a funny expression on a hat. I've got it in my... Somebody sent this to me in my office. I've got it in my office. Somebody sent this to me a couple years ago. And I can't... Can I use the expression dumb? I'll just say dumbbell. It's not really dumbbell. It's another word. But my hat, my red hat says, it's just a hat, dumbbell. And again, it's not bell. You can fill in the blank. 20 minutes before the hour. Hey, every day. I get a chance to tell you about living a pain-free life with Relief Factor. I get to tell you about it because I come into the Relief Factor studios, and I'm so grateful that we get to tell you about this 100% drug-free way to get out of pain. Hey, summertime is almost here. We've gotten through Memorial Day. We've gotten through Memorial Day, and we are ready to rock and roll. with pain-free living the Relief Factor way. I want you to get out and play with the kids, grandkids. I want you to go for long walks. I want you to swim. I want you to go to the beach. I want you to live a pain-free life. That's what Relief Factor is all about. Wherever you're hurting, back, neck, joints, muscles, Relief Factor can help you like it has for so many others, like me. I'm a Relief Factor customer. I can't imagine living life without it. Give them a call and get started. 800-4-RELIEF. 800-4-RELIEF. 800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com. Less than a dollar a day. The three-week quick start is $19.95. Let's see if we can get you out of pain the Relief Factor way. John is back in North Carolina. Hey, John, how are you?
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Good, sir. Yeah, I want to say that I'm glad for this situation because it shows the face of who Ron Johnson and Rand Paul really are. And I know you say you know them and You think they're good guys, but I don't. And the reason is because, first of all, what Ron Johnson and them are speaking is rhetoric. The reason I'm saying it's rhetoric is because they have had the longest time when they had House and Senate majority to make changes through the Republican Party. They're the ones spending for all this massive invasion of immigration to come into this country. A lot of them voted on funds that went towards that. And so I just believe that it shows who they really are, just like when we found out who the Bushes were. through situations.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it's fair to say that there are Republicans like Tom Tillis. If you look at their track record, we got Republicans in the Senate and the House who are not on board with Donald Trump, period. We know that. I don't think Ron Johnson is in that category. I believe Ron Johnson has a legitimate, sincere, genuine concern about the deficit. We all do. I get that. There are fiscal consequences that we're looking at. So, but this is part of making the sausage. They're in the factory right now, and they're going to have to get the best possible bill advanced. We've got the votes. Only if Republicans stay unified. But ultimately, it's not going to be perfect. And you know the expression. I used it with the House last week. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. You cannot blow up Trump's big, beautiful bill because it's not perfect. And I get it. We spend too much. We all understand that. Trump certainly understands that. Do you trust him or don't you? 800-655-MIKE. Eric in Florida. Hey, Eric, how are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, Mike, I was just going to say, yeah, just regarding the fiscal consequences, we have to appreciate what those things are. If we go over a cliff, lives are going to be badly impacted. So when you think about what Paul and Johnson are trying to do, they are trying to protect us financially financially. in such a way that we're not going to be harmed badly. Fair enough.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hold on, hold on. Fair enough. But if they torpedo the bill and hand the Democrats the victory that they want, because you know, Eric, the Democrats want this bill to crash and burn too. Don't you think the consequences are going to be exponentially worse?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, but the thing of it is, is the improvements that they'll make to the bill are really what matters. I want to know, why isn't Trump putting forth a bill that's already balanced? Why is exploding the debt still good?
SPEAKER 11 :
It's not still good because it's some of the fiscal realities that he's having to contend with. But what you just said, if they don't make enough improvements to Rand Paul or Ron Johnson's satisfaction, do you want the bill to crash and burn? No, but I don't want the debt to explode either. I understand that. But if the debt continues to increase, you want to blow up the bill?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I don't think the bill should pass unless the debt is not going to increase. If the bill doesn't pass, if the bill doesn't pass. If you're talking about trusting Trump, what are we trusting him to do?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, first of all, we're trusting him to do the job that we elected him to do. And look at what's in the bill. You can't ignore border security. You can't ignore military.
SPEAKER 01 :
You can't.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can't ignore shipbuilding. You can't ignore all of the things that are in there. You can't ignore stripping all of the funding for illegal immigration. You can't ignore all of it. I mean, there's a list as long as our arm. But what you're saying is... But we can only pay for what we can afford. Well, look, we print more money is what we do, and I understand that it's a... I know, but you saw our credit rating get downgraded.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know that eventually when the government tries to issue more bonds, if people don't buy the bonds, we are in a world of hurt.
SPEAKER 11 :
I get it. You know when we're in a bigger world of hurt? If you give the Democrats the victory they want. Eric, your objections are music to the Democrats' ears. In other words, all of your points are valid. All of Rand Paul's points are valid. When you say, do you not trust Trump?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do trust Trump to be the type of leader we've already seen him to be, but what I'm trusting him less on is to be fiscally conservative.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look at his first term and now this. And there's the problem, because you're trusting him less, and you're abandoning him, and you're going to give Democrats the victory that they want. That's what they're saying. You sound just like Chuck Schumer. Do you realize you sound just like Chuck Schumer? You do. You're saying the same thing. Eric, you're using the exact same rhetoric as Chuck Schumer, Eric, and you don't even know it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, then you're following Trump off a fiscal cut. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm trusting.
SPEAKER 11 :
Rand Paul and Ron Johnson know a lot more about the debt than you and I. Well, Donald, and you don't think Donald Trump knows more about the debt than you or I. You don't think you're if it's between Rand Paul, if it's between Rand Paul and Ron Johnson and Trump, who are you going to go with?
SPEAKER 05 :
If it's between Ron Johnson and Donald Trump, who are you going to go with? What I'm hoping is I'm going to I'm hoping that Trump is going to take their suggestions to heart. Whatever they put back into the bill to make it better. I hope Trump agrees. Me too.
SPEAKER 11 :
But but if it falls short, you can't blow up the bill, Eric. If it doesn't check all the boxes... I don't want to blow it up. Well, then good. Then be with it. Let's get it better. I'm with you. I totally agree with you.
SPEAKER 01 :
Let's get it better.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's make it better. But let's not blow it up to be Dr. No. Let's not be the Thomas Massey of the Senate and say, Nope, nope, nope. Not going to do it. It's not where I want it to be. And then you hand the Democrats the victory that they so desperately need. We do this over and over and over again. And Eric, don't lose your confidence in Donald Trump now. You've come this far, thus far, this far. Don't blow it up. Don't bail now. Stay with him. Stay with him. 800-655-MIKE. Glad you called. More coming up.
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 11 :
President Trump said yesterday he wants to yank $3 billion in federal grants away from what he calls a very anti-Semitic Harvard University. He ripped the Ivy League school for not handing over a full list of its foreign students to identify what he calls radicalized lunatics. and wait till you hear what he wants to do with the $3 billion. Let's go to our newsroom where the one and only Roger P. Shulman is standing by to bring us up to date on the latest thing to make the liberals' heads explode. Right, Roger?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, this will definitely do it. He wants to take that $3 billion and use it to fund trade schools across the nation. And he comes up with these ideas that actually make so much sense because we have a massive shortage of plumbers, electricians, welders, mechanics, air conditioning techs. and many other trades. And these are high-paying jobs. Many of these folks start at over $100,000 a year, and many of them will start their own business and become multimillionaires. You don't need a college degree for that. You just need to know how to do some things that need to be done. Try to find a plumber. or an air conditioning person fast in this country, it's impossible. People are not getting their construction done because there's just so much demand and so few people willing to do these jobs. And you can make a lot of money doing this stuff. And if the trade schools got the $3 billion, it would definitely help. If we want manufacturing back in this country, we're going to have to have trained people to actually do the manufacturing. And it's interesting, Harvard has about 25,000 students. 6,700 of them are from about 140 countries, many of which do not like us at all. And he's correct. There are radicalized lunatics among them who wanted to kill Jews, demonstrated on the campus. They created problems. The Jew haters attacked Jewish students since the October 7th attacks. And there was verbal harassment, intimidation, physical assaults captured on video. Some others have gotten death and rape threats. So this is not a good situation at all. With Harvard having $53 billion in endowments, they don't even need to charge tuition. It wouldn't even make a dent with their 25,000 students paying about $100,000 a year. They could stop paying tuition forever. It wouldn't make a dent in their income.
SPEAKER 11 :
Roger, the sense of entitlement that these liberal entities have is astounding to me. For example, yesterday we learned that NPR and three of its public radio stations filed a lawsuit challenging Trump's executive order that would cut off all federal funding to NPR and PBS. They're claiming that this order is a clear violation of the Constitution. I want to know where they think it's written in the U.S. Constitution that taxpayer funds have to either go to Harvard to help fund that exclusive Ivy League school or go to NPR to fund all things considered. And yet they believe they're entitled to it, Roger.
SPEAKER 01 :
Nope, we lost you. invented until about 1920-something. So radio was not around when the constitutional founders were alive, so I don't think they have much to stand on, and neither does Harvard, for that matter.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I don't think so either. I mean, look, Trump's order not only bars direct federal funding, but also mandates that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting cease indirect funding to NPR and PBS by instructing local stations not to use federal funds for NPR or PBS programming. Nobody's asking... for taxpayer dollars to fund our show? I mean, conservative media, why is there this expectation that federal funding be handed over to NPR and PBS with a big red bow around it?
SPEAKER 01 :
It's called machine in motion. It started and it just continues and continues and continues. Nobody's saying they have to go off the air. They can make money the same way we do. You have the sales department and go out and sell radio time. They can have more fundraisers. They can do anything they want. He's not saying they have to go off the air. He's not going to choke them off the airwaves. They can participate and do whatever they want, preferably not as radical as that.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think we need to start selling tote bags, Roger. Let's just sell Mike Gallagher's show, Tote Bags. I mean, we could make a lot of money. Maybe you never know. I may have to put that to work. Maybe beach balls, too, this summer, you know. Bobbleheads. All right, Roger P. Shulman checking in from the Mike Gallagher Show Newsroom. Thank you, Roger. Appreciate it very much. You know, somebody just texted me, Mike, you may not know about this, but Pete Hegseth holds a monthly prayer service at the Pentagon. You can view it at YouTube. We talk all the time about the need for a spiritual revival, and they've gone after Hegseth mercilessly. And yet President Trump is standing by him. I want to go back to his rousing speech that he gave at Arlington Cemetery. It was so powerful, it'll probably bring a tear to your eye. But here's part two of the defense secretary's amazing Memorial Day speech at Arlington.
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As Jesus taught his disciples, greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. This love is a gift given freely. And yet this gift comes with responsibility to those living. We owe a duty to those who have fallen in war. They have paid a debt we can never repay. And for that, we owe gratitude and remembrance. We owe at least this, to remember their sacrifice and honor their memory year after year. Salute after salute, ceremony after ceremony, parade after parade, prayer after prayer. That by our remembrance, we keep lit the eternal flame of their heroic deeds in defense of our nation. And we owe eternal vigilance. Eternal vigilance, the price of freedom. These men died for something. The hope of a free, secure, and peaceful republic. That is our inheritance and we must steward it and hand it down to our kids and our grandkids. We must live worthy of it. These men dreamt of a future in which their children would not fear of attack. No enemy could threaten their peace. No war could require them to take up arms. The duty we owe these men is peace, which only can be achieved through strength. And because we strive for peace, we must prepare for war. That's the job of the chairman and I and so many others at the Defense Department. Each and every day, we will never, on behalf of those who've given so much, we will never be complacent. We owe these men nothing less. our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. So on this Memorial Day, in honor of the unknown soldiers and the known, let us rededicate ourselves to God and country. To our great republic 249 years on, we stand on the shoulders of great men. and on the shoulders of those great men in those graves, and may we live worthy of it. Thank you. God bless our warriors, and may God bless our fallen. And amen. Amen.
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Amen. And amen. Now, Rasmussen had a poll that came out a few hours ago talking about whether or not Americans believe we're on the right track For the first time in the history of Rasmussen polling, a majority of Americans believe that the United States of America is on the right track. For the first time in the polling history of Rasmussen, a majority of Americans believe that this country is on the right track. And Pete Hegseth is a big part of the reason why. A prayerful defense secretary. Imagine that. Let them get upset. Let them scream. Let them whine. Let them be angry. We get that they're going to do that. But we have to appreciate that this country is headed in the right direction, finally. We have to remember that we have a president who's fighting morning, noon, and night for hardworking, tax-paying Americans. We have a president who wants to restore sanity to to an otherwise insane agenda and an ideology that is so out of touch with ordinary Americans that they might as well be on Mars. We're headed in the right direction. Keep the faith. Keep the faith. 800-655-MIKE is our number. I've got an update on our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree kit. We're getting close to 300 kids. We're almost there.
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Join us for a riveting discussion surrounding the complexities of relationships in high places. We explore the intriguing dynamics of French President Emmanuel Macron's personal life and its public perception, comparing it to similar scenarios met with scrutiny. Coupled with a critique of celebrity commencement speeches, this episode promises engaging narratives, political insights, and a splash of absurdity.
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Well, this comes by way of Fox 13. This is kind of a crazy story. So apparently, Polk County deputies, they shot and killed an armed man who was attacked by an alligator while he was swimming across the lake. And then he charged at the deputies with a pair of garden shears and then tried to grab a gun from one of the patrol vehicles. And I mean, I know there's a lot here. So it was in Lakeland, Florida, and he was armed with garden shears. He 42 year old Timothy Scholes. And this was Monday morning. He swam across a lake to when right before deputies arrived. And then he charged at them with garden shears after trying to take a gun from a patrol vehicle. They were searching for him just before 6 a.m. after he was reported, after they got called in by a convenience store clerk that reported on him. And the residents of a nearby neighborhood, they called the sheriff's office. This was the second report on the guy. They said there's a man out here swimming in an alligator-infested lake. And they tried to throw him a life preserver, and he was said to have growled at the neighbors. when they tried to help him. And apparently, several witnesses told deputies that there was an alligator that was spotted swimming towards him as he was swimming across the lake. And he emerged from the lake. He apparently got bit by a gator while he was in the lake. He was walking between houses, holding a pair of garden shears. And then he tried to use a brick to break into another resident's truck. And they... They said that... This is what Grady Judd said. He said, quote, the fact that he was bitten by an alligator significantly and still continued his rampage is shocking. But if you're on enough meth, the person you see is not the person that's attacking. So apparently he was methed up out of his mind. They did finally take him into custody. Well, they were going to get him into custody. They were trying to, and he charged at them with shears and tried to break into a car, and they had to shoot. So he... Wow. I mean, can you imagine? First off, he got bit by a gator in an alligator infested lake and still swam out. I don't even know. So, um, oh, can we, a Florida man who shot and poisoned dolphins was sentenced to one month. Yeah. A Florida man who shot dolphins and poisoned them. He was sentenced to just 30 days in prison and a year of supervised release. The 31-year-old Zachary Barfield shot the bottlenose dolphins and then used poisoned bait. He got mad because they were eating from his charter fishing clients. And he shot at five of them, killing one of them, and then used poisoned bait on dozens more during outings from Panama City. And they said that he fed about 24 to 70 dolphins poisoned Latin bait fish. Yeah. And they said that there were all kinds of tips going in on him that he was killing wildlife. So what a jerk. Yeah. Dude, take his license. Yeah, I wouldn't want him operating a charter. No way. Absolutely not. I wouldn't want to go in any boat. That guy's driving. Good heavens. Let's see. This is in Oakland Park. I'm going to pull this up. A Wendy's restaurant in South Florida. It was badly damaged by a vehicle. Vehicle ran right into the Wendy's and apparently it was a Wendy's employee who was behind the wheel of the vehicle that ran into the Wendy's. No injuries were reported. They go, it's unclear what caused the employee to crash into the restaurant. Is it though? Is it unclear? Hmm. I mean, it's early, early or late at night or early in the morning, depending on how you look at it and they drive into a Wendy's. Okay. Yeah, sure. Our partners that bring you the program, it's our friends at All Family Pharmacy. All Family Pharmacy is a great, great business. I love, I love them because they make it so easy to get medications that you need. It takes two to four days. Or overnight in a pinch. I mean, it's super fast, super affordable, no insurance, no problem. Straightforward pricing, online ordering. The shipping is fast. You can get your everyday maintenance medications. You can get your antibiotics, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. Convenience is everything. And they assist you in taking control of your health. You can order a one year supply of essential medicines for like diabetes treatments, cholesterol, blood pressure. So you can skip last minute pharmacy runs and everything is made in the USA. They don't mess with stuff that include precursors from China or anywhere else. You can rest easy knowing that your stuff is made right here in the US of a high quality of standards and safety. Visit all family pharmacy dot com slash Dana. I use this personally and get 10 percent off with promo code Dana 10. Don't wait. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family today. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 to save 10%.
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This was very interesting. And I'm going to wait for Juan to get this video up because he was arriving in Vietnam and he was getting ready. He was waiting for the door. They were opening the door and then he was going to deplane going down the steps. And as they opened the door, his wife shoves him in the face. And he just looked stunned. It was like watching a Jacques Tati film. I felt like I was watching some ironic French deep dive film where they mock politicians. And then he's like, oh my gosh, the door's open. I feel like he didn't know that. And he turned and looked and went, oh, oh, oui, bonjour, slap, slap. I mean, I totally did get some Pepe Le Pew vibes, but that was kind of... Now, everybody has been Zapruder analyzing these moves. So his wife, that was his wife, Brigitte Macron, who did this, right? So she slaps him. Is that a slap or a shove? They were trying to say that it was a playful moment. And I'm like, no, sorry, it's not. I mean, her fingers were in his mouth. In his dirty socialist mouth. Does that look like playful to you?
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It seems like she would have followed through and the smiles, you know what I mean? Then you would have seen both of them in that shot. But instead he's like, oh, wait, let me wave at the camera here.
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Hey, guys. Yeah, he was surprised. He was completely surprised that everybody saw it. And they were trying to say, oh, well, it was, you know, it was just they were joking around. That's what his people said officially, that it shows that they were joking around. I don't know. So she was 40 when he was 15. And she was a teacher and he was a student. In fact, he was in the same grade as her daughter. He was a classmate of her daughter. And she divorced her husband in 2006 and married Macron in 2007. And they've been married for a little while now, but I... It's right, Kane. Dude. It's weird.
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That's some uncomfortable math.
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That was in high school. They met in high school. Now, reverse the sexes for a moment. This is why I bring this up. She also wears the wrong shade of foundation for her skin tone. She looks orange and her ears look pale. You can't do that. You can't, you know, especially when, you know, it's like a warm tone and you have a cool blonde. Why are you doing this? Sorry, I just had to do it. I just. They married in 2007. And I don't know. I just I'm just analyzing all of this stuff. I feel like she's the power in this relationship. Well, I mean, that's her daughter's classmate. And she, again, she was 40, he was 15. And his parents, Emmanuel McCrone's parents, thought he was seeing Brigitte McCrone's daughter. And then when they found out that he actually had hots for teacher, they sent him to a boarding school. So what that suggests to me is if they're... It kind of suggests there was something happening in school. That's what I think. They've never said as much, but it does definitely raise some issues there. And they've done a couple of interviews about it. They've been very tight with how much information that they give out. But, I mean, I don't know. So they ended up getting married and they've, you know... But that... My whole point in bringing that up is to see her shove him in the face like that, even if they were joked. I don't know. To me, that doesn't look like joking around. That looks like her being very forceful and bossy. I feel like she has the control on that relationship, and she kind of pushes him around. Whether or not he would ever admit it, maybe he likes being pushed around. I think people define happiness and strength differently from others. But that's not joking. I mean, if I were him... I don't know. I mean, I don't believe in hitting women, but, man, I would give a little credence to Ike Turner here in this response. I'm just saying, don't be hitting people if you don't want to get hit. That's the size. Look at it. So he's like, oh, hello. Oh, bonjour. Oh, it's the people.
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He just had a little schmutz right about there. That's all it was. He was just getting that off his face.
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If you were joking around with your wife who was 25 years older than you, Cain... and cougared you while you were in high school. Would you think that was a joking move right there?
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she probably couldn't reach my face, but the joking thing would be like slapping somebody in the arm or hitting them in the chest or whatever. Stop it. You're, you know, playful, but putting your hands in their face.
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Like, I don't think she's a dude and I'm not going to pretend for, yeah, I don't think she's, no, I'm just saying out loud. I was thinking while you were telling me that I was like, and then it made me think she was pretty forceful.
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Yeah. So I don't in the face. That's not a playful move. Like slapping the arm, the back, her fingers were in his mouth.
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I don't know, man. And so that immediately exploded. Can you imagine touching down in Vietnam for state business and this happens? And that happens. Don't do that stuff by the door. How do you not know that door is being opened also? Just be a little bit more aware. Good heavens. But they've been... having to deal with this for the past like two days now so they're like oh my gosh it's no it's we were just joking around and oh the office downplays it they're joking around someone they had a body language expert a couple different so the British publications love getting body language experts And they said, well, this this shove tells you about the power play in the marriage. And he was mad. They said he made a fist like Arthur, that anteater from PBS, like he made a fist like after, you know, like down by his side, like, oh, he was mad. And yeah, so they that's they said that he was angry about it. But that wasn't a slap.
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Apparently we have another angle of this slap. Let's take a look at this. I don't know if I believe. It's another angle.
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Is it? Is it another angle? Take a look at this one. I don't know about that. Oh, there it is. She's a total punch.
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That looks brutal.
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The Macrongos push in the face by wife was joke, not domestic dispute. That's the BBC horsing around USA Today. Their scandal. Leave it to the New York Post. Their scandal plagued relationship from student teacher affair to this shocking physical altercation. I mean, I just think it gives some insight into the power play into their relationship. That's how I look at this. So I don't know. But he apparently was, you know, he's all about hunting cougar when he was in high school, man. He enjoyed spending time with his teachers. Who knew, you know? And he enjoyed spending time with his teachers. He was at the Catholic Lycee La Providence. And her oldest daughter, they were, he was a classmate of her. And he liked hanging out with his teachers. And they have all these videos and photos of them back when like he was 15. It's really weird. It's just weird, man. And I don't know. I don't know. But apparently he had relationships. This is why I think that something inappropriate was happening earlier. So one book said that Brigitte's family found out about the she apparently had affairs. And the accusation was that she was having an affair with him in high school and that they got caught sunbathing in 1994 at the home of her parents and that it caused a lot of drama in the families when the affair was discovered and then he was sent to boarding school. Regardless, he was sent away at one point because of this. So just saying, I think... reverse the sexes. Why is it that women always are like, oh, you can't be a predator because you're a woman? Have you ever met a woman? Women are natural predators and men don't even know it half the time. That's the thing. Like men are all out there and they do everything above board. Women are below board. Women are sneaky. So why don't they act like she's a predator? Kane, this would have been... This would be scandalous if you had a leader in the United States today who had dated his teacher when he was 15. Oh, without a doubt. And then married her.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Well, the patriarch of the Robertson family, Phil Robertson, has passed away at age 79. He was battling Alzheimer's in his final months. Everybody knows Phil Robertson and what the Robertson family did. I really enjoyed the Babylon Bees headline. They said, oh, no, Phil Robertson greeted in heaven by 12 million angry ducks. But he was very honest about he had a real rough life in the beginning. He lived rough. And then he cleaned himself up and found Jesus. And then, well, ever since then, it's all history. But his family announced on Sunday on social media that he died. had passed, so our prayers are with the family there. Also, we see here, scientists have discovered a mysterious sphere in Colombia sparking UFO speculation. Now, don't get excited just yet, people. It's a mysterious metallic sphere, and it was recovered after flying through the air in Colombia. And scientists are baffled because it was just flying through the air. They think they think it's a UFO. It was over the western part of the country in March. It landed and was confiscated. It weighs four and a half pounds. and it was cold to the touch, and I don't know. I don't think it was just an alien in origin. It looks pretty. You think it does?
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It's an unidentified flying object.
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Well, I can throw a shoe in the air, and it could be captured on radar.
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What is that? I identified it as a shoe. It's not a UFO.
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Well, for a moment, it's unidentified. This is a big silver ball. It honestly looks like something you'd get at HomeGoods and you'd put in a wooden bowl on your coffee table. That's like apparently the big thing, says Instagram, is to put balls in a bowl on your coffee table. Yeah, so that would be, you know, just that's what it looks like. Let's see. The FBI has announced new probes into the Dobbs Supreme Court leak and the White House cocaine in the cubby incident. Oh, really? I think we're finally going to get to the end of it. Dana, why are we wasting our time on this stuff? Why can't we just do other... I want to waste time being petty. If you're being petty, it's not wasting time. That's a... Treat yourself, okay? Treat yourself. Let's investigate the cubby cocaine. All about that, right? I do wonder whose it is, though. Their name probably couldn't rhyme with Schmunt or Meiden. I'm positive. And people are trying to buy 100% Made in America, but it's really, really hard. We're going to talk about some of this coming up. It's a Wall Street Journal piece. Stick with us.
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I'm already falling asleep with this guy. Jiminy Christmas. I can play this and just fall asleep at night. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. That's what's his face? Scott Pelley with 60 minutes. Whatever. I don't care. Can you just give a commencement address where you're not a jack wagon and you don't have to, you know, turn your own crank about your political beef? Is that possible? Oh, my gosh. Can't even have a graduation. Can't have a graduate. Can't even have a commencement address without people being dumb about it. He... And I don't know what university that was at. But it wasn't just him. You also had Kermit the Frog. Yes, the puppet. Now, is it really too far off, though, for progressives, a felt animal with a hand up its backside to maneuver its mouth? Is that really? I mean, we just underwent four years of that in an administration. So is it beyond the realm of belief that we saw it with a commencement address? But apparently, there was some upset over the puppet that delivered a woke commencement address. And this was SCCU. So, this is the University of Maryland. Listen.
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I used to have fun in the swamp playing leapfrog. It was our favorite game. Kind of our only game. But we loved it. Except for my cousin, Albert. He never actually left. He just stepped on your back and used your head like a lily pad. Sure, he got ahead, but it was only by stepping on you. We've been told that that's how you succeed and some choose to believe it what but I know they're on that frog right now So as you prepare to take this big leap into real life I'm gonna be like Naboo from the Naboo teak mighty bush.
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I don't like this frog. I'm gonna give him a squeeze That was a deep dive. So It's a puppet King It's a puppet I'm done. I'm just going to throw things now and we'll finish the show that way. You deserved you people who had a puppet for your speaker. You deserve it. I don't feel bad for you. People said that it was way off base. And he said, quote, rather than jumping over someone to get what you want, consider reaching your hand out and taking a leap side by side. Step the hell off. No, no, no. What you do and the choices you make are your choices, and that is your direction in life. You do not owe it to anybody. Do not conflate this with good stewardship. It's not the same thing. And life isn't better when you leap together. What if you change yourself to somebody like Mike Brown? Hands up, don't shoot. Oh, wait. You've got to think about who you're leaping with. Just do it. Just give a commencement address. Make it about the grads. And shut up. Take your little honorary whatever and shut up. And get off this stupid stage with your shut up mouth. Nobody cares. But it's a puppet. I would have gone up there and slapped it.
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Just, boom, that puppet. It doesn't reflect how I thought the Muppets were. I thought they were a little rebellious. I thought the Muppets, remember the Muppet movie?
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I mean, is this a kid thing? You're a grown-ass adult, and you're standing there at your commencement address. You're in your 20s. You're getting a college degree, and you have a child's show puppet who's giving you your commencement address. Really? Okay. I mean, to me, that's like you couldn't get anybody better. You couldn't get anybody better. You're just kind of talking down to the college kids. I don't know. I don't know. But to even to make it a wokery thing the way that they did is... I don't know. I just kind of take a breath whenever we have these commencement addresses. I just kind of... Oh, what's it going to be like? I just noticed the... older I get the less tolerance I have for any of this to the point where it needs to be vocalized right and not just on my radio program I can't imagine I have a puppet but that's how seriously they take this Apparently, if you wanted to know how seriously they take your kids, if you're a young adult, you're in your early 20s and you wanted to know how seriously they take you, then that's there's the private. There's the example right there. So we had a 15 minute speech and they had a sing along. And how, wait, so you had somebody walk up and kneel down underneath the podium and then stick their hand up this frog's backside and hold their arm up there. So you saw the person walk up there. It's not like you saw Kermit the frog walk up, right? It's not, it was somebody, and they had to get down there and then do the frog.
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So no suspension of disbelief.
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No. No, that's just as cheesy and it's goofy. All of it's just... Just give the commencement. Colleges, just do right by the students for once in your god-awful lives. Just do right by the students and have a decent commencement speaker, please.
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Join us in this episode of Liberty Nation with Mark Angelides, as we delve into the tense dynamics of government spending and the impact of proposed budget cuts. Our discussions bring forward the pressing concerns voiced by conservatives over the apparent discrepancies in spending and savings, demanding answers and accountability from leadership. As Senator Rand Paul raises the alarm, the intricacies of legislative processes and the hurdles posed by reconciliation and the Byrd rule are revealed, sparking critical debates. This episode also explores the changing landscape of political discourse and the prominence of social media in shaping public opinion. Expect candid conversations on the pressures faced by lawmakers to conform, as they navigate the minefield of big government expectations and conservative ideals. From corporate influences to the realities of budget deficits, we leave no stone unturned. Continuing, we cast a light on policies influencing immigration and the responsibilities of representing constituents who challenge legal norms. With a unique combination of humor and hard-hitting facts, our speakers dissect today's political paradoxes, offering insights into the interconnectedness of policy decisions and public sentiment.
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SPEAKER 19 :
I'm all for the Doge cuts, and I'll vote for every one of them. But the administration now is afraid to send them back because Republican leadership on both sides is like, we're not sure we can pass a $9 billion cut. And so what we're really stuck with is the math doesn't work. All the great Doge stuff, all the great stuff Elon Musk has done is out there. And people are going to wake up in about two months and say, how come the deficit's still $2.2 trillion? Where did the savings go? People are going to be very disappointed, conservatives. And I'm the one ringing the alarm saying they're not doing anything. They're not sending us a rescission package. They're not cutting spending. Somebody has to stand up and yell, the emperor has no clothes. And everybody's falling in lockstep on this. Pass the big, beautiful bill.
SPEAKER 12 :
Do you know why it's like that? It's like that because everybody's too afraid to speak out. Because the moment you say anything, you're accused of being a squish. So the moment that you're not fluffing big government is the moment that you're accused of being a squish. Now you see how unbelievably ridiculous it's gotten. And that's the reality of the situation. I'd like to... tell you something different, but I'm not here to make people easy in their big government. I'm here to wake people up in big government. So welcome to the program. It's Tuesday. That was Senator Rand Paul, who was talking about the next steps, which I'm going to detail with you, the next steps for the bill. because it has to go through the Senate. Like I said, it's got to go through, they call it a birdbath. Well, not really. I mean, some of them do. It's kind of a dumb term. But it's to make sure that, remember how I told you that bird rule? And this was kind of a reason why Chip Roy was saying that, well, you know, it's going to be a little bit difficult to make sure that Social Security is is not getting is not getting taxed, et cetera, et cetera, because you have to go through this rule. You have to go through the it's the bird rule. It means that if you're using reconciliation, which is. the technique that they're trying to use to get around a filibuster. If you're using reconciliation, you know, then ultimately what's going to end up happening is, is if it's not germane to that specific budget bill at that moment, then they got to take it out. So that's, that's the reality of it. So we're going to get it all of that. I'm going to tell you the latest where, where it stands and, Because we're going to have to deal with this all week. God help me. Open my veins. We're going to have to deal with this all week. I mean, Cain laughs. You laugh because it's true. It's Tuesday.
SPEAKER 10 :
We've got several days to go. So I don't open in the veins now. Probably not.
SPEAKER 12 :
Do you know how I feel mentally? Mentally, I feel like an old captain. Like on a fishing boat who's done and he's about to drown everybody. That's how I mean, just like I'm there. Right. I just am so tired of watching. So here's one of the things that got me mad about it. I don't know if you saw this with Elon Musk, but he had tweeted. Someone had said it's crazy that they that all of this stuff isn't included in this bill, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I only was telling everybody about this, not just me. Other people were. you know, for quite a long time. But they're saying, oh, can you believe, you know, it's not in this, et cetera. And he goes, I tried. Aw. He's like, I tried. Does that just make you mad? It makes me, so why would anybody want to help? If someone was like, Dana, you're a trillionaire. I'm not going to lie to you guys. I'm going to be like, y'all are on your own. I'm out. Because I am not going to lie to you. Like, if I'm going into Congress, you bet your ass I'm going to be trading stocks. Like, Byron Donalds just made some stock purchases. I saw that, too. Oh, yeah, he did. He made some stock. Why don't I get these tips, man? Share the wealth. You were at my birthday dinner. Share the wealth. I'm not going to lie to you. I'll be straight up. I'll be like, hey, if I can do it, yeah, I'm going to do it. Absolutely. I think everybody should be able to do it. But until that point, yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to be honest with everybody about this stuff. I just I don't care about getting along with anybody in Washington. Really don't know. I don't don't care if we're friends. Don't care about any of it. But the problem is, is a lot of people, they don't want to they don't want to criticize parts of this bill. They don't want to criticize a lot of this bill because they didn't they they were worried about the bot army, I guess, on social media saying something. It's very, I don't know. I had a headline about that, too. Did you hear about the bot farms? Something like a significant portion of activity online anymore is their bot farms. Kane, what are we doing? Why are we not operating a bot farm? E-I-E-I-O, man. Why are we not doing this? I don't know. We need it. Suddenly, I want to be a farmer. It'd be like Clarkson's Farm, but with bots. I'm just saying, I feel like that would be a great thing to do.
SPEAKER 10 :
I hope none of them are getting money from like the Department of Agriculture. They're bot farming and then they're getting money from our government.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, well, I would hate that. I want to do that now, too. I want I also want that. I just want I just I don't know. I if I were Elon Musk, going back to my original point. And someone was like, hey, do you want to come and withstand all of this and have people key your products and attack your company? No, I don't. I literally do not care about anything. My immediate family, that's it. Not even everybody in my family, just my immediate ones. I don't care. I'm not down to doing it for anybody. I'm just being honest, Cain, and I feel like that's a lost art is honesty.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's absolutely true.
SPEAKER 12 :
Would you help people if you were a billionaire? If you were in his position, would you do it? Would you buy X and deal with all those?
SPEAKER 10 :
I take a little bit to help a little bit. I'm not a little bit.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't think I know. You know why? Because look what happens. Then they don't make your they don't put your cuts in the bill.
SPEAKER 10 :
How about this? Enough to offset some taxes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, that's never going to happen. We're never going to be under. We're never going to not be taxed. We are we are never not going to be taxed. That's just the way of it. We the Republican Party is to it's to uniparty. There's no difference. I see a lot of these cats out there that are election everybody about voting for this stuff. And I'm like, do you really this bill is just it's horrible. Let's I'm not going to pretend that it's nice so I can get the nice emails or I can get the traction on X. Everybody hates me. I'm used to being hated. It's fine. But I'm just not I'm not doing I'm not playing this game. I'm just not doing it. It's this bill is trash. We're adding trillions to the debt, but we're going to go ahead and act like it's OK. All right. Whatever. And by we, I mean the rhinos. I know you all out there are not like that, but, you know, I can't we can't say that for everybody. So the a few other things to touch on. that the bill, it's going through that Byrd rule. We're going to check that out, make sure everything's capacetic, and then it goes. It's still some procedural votes. There's still some things to go into before you get to the final vote. So just know that. Also, I really think that we need to send people in D.C. a dictionary. And the reason I say this is because you had a representative who decided they literally decided to go see. I can't believe they're still doing this on Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day weekend. You know, those who who died in battle, they get one day. You know, I mean, you know, if you choose to have sex creatively, I guess you get a whole month, whatever. But one day anyway. So you had Glenn Ivey who went to go see Kilmar Garcia. They're not done treating this dude like Disneyland. Well, he tried to go see him. We have this audio. This is, I don't know which one it is. There's a million. Oh, there it is. Audio somebody. Go ahead and play it because I feel like he needs to get a dictionary. You listen to this soundbite and you tell me why you think it is also that he needs a dictionary. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm the congressman that represents Omar. I came all the way down from the United States after we contacted their ambassador, after we made formal requests to our ambassador to the El Salvadoran government. And we came here to visit him today. And now they're telling us we got to go all the way back to El Salvador to San Salvador to get a permit. That's ridiculous. We ought to have a chance to come in and visit. They knew we were coming. They knew why we were coming. And they know we have the right to do this.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, you know, I think that he needs a dictionary because he said that he had to go down there to see Abrego Garcia. He tweeted, quote, Today I was denied access to seeing my constituent, Mr. Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Mr. I beat women. Mr. I human traffic. Mr. I entered the country repeatedly illegally, but constituent. Okay. And he goes, if there's nothing to hide, cut the crap. Let his lawyer and I check on him. No, sorry. No, you don't get to. He entered illegally. Here's the fun prize you win if you enter the country illegally. This is really what the messaging should be for immigration policy, right? You enter the country illegally and you're out there doing some crimes. You're probably going to get your edible snakes beat in jail. Man, you're probably going to get thrown right into jail. And we'll make sure we'll put you in the meanest portion. Well, you're going to go to jail in a story and then and then you're going to get yeeted back into your country of origin. That's the really fun prize that you win when you immigrate illegally. Right. When you're human trafficking, guess what? We'll probably beat you in prison a little bit. And then we'll get you back to your country of origin. I'm all for that's not cruel and unusual punishment. That's creative and innovative punishment. Stop. So my two cents on that. I just think you play stupid games. You win equally stupid prizes. And so this I don't know why they keep they keep doing they keep stunting on this guy. Why they keep doing this. He's he's not even from here. How many damn times we have to have this conversation. This guy's a little bit late to the party, isn't he? Glenn Ivey needs to be told that all these cats were down there a couple of weeks ago. They all went down there and had margaritas a while ago. I guess the jail down there was tired of letting these fools in to have margaritas with this guy. I mean, this is this is the kind of clownery that's at work. Let his lawyer and I check your constituent. How in the world does he represent this guy? That guy can't even vote for him. Kelmar Obrego-Garcia couldn't even vote for him because he's here illegally. So if he voted, then that's an illegal vote. He illegally voted and his vote doesn't count. People know how this works, right? I begged the question by assuming that these people on the left did. Forgive me. I guess they're trying to create a constitutional crisis where one doesn't exist. I mean, that's really the truth of this. He's not a constituent. He's a terrorist gang member. He's a woman beater. He's a criminal, a human trafficker. I feel like this dude cares more about this gang banging violent illegal immigrant than he does about his own constituents. Words have meanings, though. That's not what a constituent is. So coming up, can we talk about the slap? Did you guys see? We'll play it for you. Let me just, you don't want me to show it now. I'm going to play it for you. I know you guys are very excited about this one. Emmanuel Macron gets slapped by his teacher. Sorry, his wife. She was in her 40s when he was a student. I think that's weird. I don't know. I'm all for older ladies going out and whatever. If that's what you do, I'm not, I am judging. I can't, I reserved the right to judge. Doesn't have any bearing on your ability to do it, but I still will judge you. But I just think that's weird. Like he's in elementary school and she's like a married mother of multiples. That's just weird, right? And then they end up shacking up. I mean, didn't they have that story of, Kane, remember that Mary Kay Letourneau lady? Oh man, that woman, when I was in high school, everybody was talking about Mary Kay Letourneau. Remember her? I do. This is like that story, but French. Hard work, self-reliance, showing up. That's what built this country. And it's exactly how our president leads. No excuses, no handouts, just results. But let's be honest, even the most dedicated Americans can't run on empty. Real sleep isn't a luxury. It's essential. And that's where Beam's Dream Powder comes in. It's proudly American-made, created by folks who believe in the same values that we do, discipline, integrity, and doing what it takes to succeed. Dream is a clean, science-backed blend of re-sheet, magnesium, L-theanine, apigenin, and melatonin, carefully formulated to help you fall asleep fast, stay asleep, and wake up refreshed. If you're serious about showing up strong for your family, for work, and your country, then start with better sleep. So here's the deal. Beam is giving my listeners the ultimate Patriot discount of up to 40% off. Try their best-selling Dream Powder and get up to 40% off for a limited time. Just visit shopbeam.com slash danashow and you can use code danashow at checkout. That's shopbeam.com slash danashow and use code danashow for 40% off. Sleep better, wake up stronger, and show up ready for your family, your work, and your country. Because when you're well-rested, you're unstoppable.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Well, the patriarch of the Robertson family, Phil Robertson, has passed away at age 79. He was battling Alzheimer's in his final months. Everybody knows Phil Robertson and what the Robertson family did. I really enjoyed the Babylon Bees headline. They said, oh no, Phil Robertson greeted in heaven by 12 million angry ducks. But he was very honest about he had a real rough life in the beginning. He lived rough. And then he cleaned himself up and found Jesus. And then, well, ever since then, it's all history. But his family announced on Sunday on social media that he died. had passed, so our prayers are with the family there. Also, we see here, scientists have discovered a mysterious sphere in Colombia, sparking UFO speculation. Now, don't get excited just yet, people. It's a mysterious metallic sphere, and it was recovered after flying through the air in Colombia. And scientists are baffled because it was just flying through the air. They think they think it's a UFO. It was over the western part of the country in March. It landed and was confiscated. It weighs four and a half pounds. And it was cold to the touch. And I don't know. I don't think they I think it was just I don't think it's an alien in origin. It looks pretty. You think it does?
SPEAKER 10 :
It's an unidentified flying object.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I can throw a shoe in the air and it could be captured on radar.
SPEAKER 10 :
What is that? I identified it as a shoe. It's not a UFO.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, for a moment, it's unidentified. This is a big silver ball. It honestly looks like something you'd get at HomeGoods and you'd put in a wooden bowl on your coffee table. That's like apparently the big thing, says Instagram, is to put balls in a bowl on your coffee table. Yeah. So that would be, you know, just that's what it looks like. Let's see. The FBI has announced new probes into the Dobbs Supreme Court leak and the White House cocaine in the cubby incident. Oh, really? I think we're finally going to get to the end of it. Dana, why are why are we wasting our time on this stuff? Why can't we just do other? I want to waste time being petty. If you're being petty, it's not wasting time. That's a that's a. Treat yourself, okay? Treat yourself. Let's investigate the cubby cocaine. All about that, right? I do wonder whose it is, though. Their name probably couldn't rhyme with Schmunt or Meiden. I'm positive. And people are trying to buy 100% Made in America, but it's really, really hard. We're going to talk about some of this coming up. It's a Wall Street Journal piece. Stick with us. The partners for our program, it's Angel Studios. People... who make films and make artistic expressions for those that Hollywood has totally ignored. Mainstream studios, they push content that's often financed overseas. And so it's one of the reasons why it feels singularly disconnected from our values and what we expect every day. Angel Studios is building something different. And so you can help support this work and become a premium Angel Studios Guild member. And when you do that, you can watch King of Kings and stream all fan curated shows and movies. You get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. And with this latest production from Angel Studios and King of Kings, it's a story that's. framed by Charles Dickens telling his son about the life of Jesus. And it's inspired by Dickens' own book, The Life of Our Lord. And it's an all-star cast. Kenneth Bragna plays Charles Dickens. You know him. Uma Thurman's in it. Oscar Isaac. Pierce Brosnan. Ben Kingsley's in this. It's awesome. And it also received an A-plus cinema score and 98% audience rating. So it's really record-breaking in terms of animated faith-based films. And so as a premium member of the Guild, you help decide which projects are greenlit, and you help shape the future of entertainment. Visit angel.com slash Dana and join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment. Become a premium Angel Studios Guild member today and watch The King of Kings with its all-star cast today. and stream all fan-curated shows and movies, and to get two free tickets to every Angel Studios theatrical release. That's angel.com slash dana.
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Hello, I am Mayor Brandon Johnson, and I am proud to join you in recognizing and celebrating Africa Day. The continent of Africa is made up of 1.2 billion people with diverse countries full of rich traditions, cultures, and heritage. The African diaspora can be found in cities and countries around the globe.
SPEAKER 12 :
And right here in Chicago... I can't even deal with this guy. It's Memorial Day weekend. And this meat sack comes out. Guess what? Happy Africa Day. I don't care. It's Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day weekend. We honor those people who gave the ultimate sacrifice. Whether you deserved it, Mr. Mayor or not, they did it. So this is what he chooses. That's the message that he chooses to push out over Memorial Day weekend. Lord, put a hand over my mouth right now. Welcome back. You can, if you're listening to us around the country, Channel 347, you can watch the radio show. Ooh, technology. The chat's at rumble. The message here, like that's, I don't know. And I went back because I don't recall anybody ever doing that over a Memorial Day weekend before. And maybe they're made up acknowledgement, whatever they're trying to celebrate. Maybe it just happened to coincide with Memorial Day this year, but still. How is that, like maybe take a beat. Hmm, it's Memorial Day weekend. Perhaps maybe we should just focus on observing Memorial Day. This isn't an everybody get yours kind of observance sort of holiday. It's not what it is. I don't know. But you know what? Somebody elects him, so they deserve him. I don't feel bad for people who vote stupidly and then they reap the consequences of their decision. Nope. Enjoy. La, la, la, la, la. Enjoy it. That's, but it's just like this. There were some stunts like this over the weekend that from a number of politicians. There were only a few that I liked. Everybody's got, I don't like the canned posts that go out and you can tell which ones those are. But I did not like potuses. I'm just going to say it. Oh, but Dana. Yeah. Just say something about Memorial Day and go on. All right? That's all you got to do. We don't got to be attacking nobody in it. We don't got to be like going on, you know, yes, the scum. This is what he wrote on Memorial Day. Through a warped radical left mind. Sometimes it hits and sometimes it doesn't. Okay? But this whole, I don't even, we're in the United States. Why are we celebrating that for a different continent? Happy African, you're celebrating a continent that we're not even on. What is it? That doesn't make any sense. Okay. I don't know. I just, I felt like the political acknowledgements this year were grievously dumb. Oh, they were. They were. I don't know. I just, and I have, this is kind of related to it. I never say happy Memorial Day. Now, I have friends who serve and I have family who serve. And they're like, they would want you to enjoy your weekend and spend time with your loved ones. And I get that. Not arguing that. But I don't like the happy Memorial Day phrase, Cain. Because it's like saying happy 9-11. I just don't. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's just me. Like, you don't, it's not like Merry Christmas. It's not like Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's different than, like, Happy Veterans Day is fine for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Happy Memorial Day is kind of tough. To a veteran. I like to say, you know, I hope you had a great one or something like that.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't even say that. I don't even, because I don't care, but I, you know, whether or not somebody had a good weekend. But I also, I'm just, eh.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's that.
SPEAKER 12 :
It just seems like it's a sobering observance, I think. Yeah. And that's how my family always looked at it. It's not, you know, like, how was your raging kegger? You know, it wasn't like that. I don't know. Anyway, just because there were a number of politicians who said that. And I just, I stopped and I'm like, that's like saying, you know, happy 9-11 or, you know, maybe not. Let's not. Let's not do that. But the Africa Day thing, that one threw me for a loop. That was a new one. That was a new one. And of course, that's the Chicago mayor. Remember when everybody said he was going to be better than Lori Lightfoot? Of course he wasn't. No one actually thought that he was, did they? Of course he wasn't going to be. Can we talk about the slap now? So the French president, Emmanuel Macron, He, this was very interesting. And I'm going to wait for Juan to get this video up because he was arriving in Vietnam and he was getting ready. He was waiting for the door. They were opening the door and then he was going to deplane going down the steps. And as they opened the door, his wife shoves him in the face. And he just looked stunned. It was like watching a Jacques Tati film. I felt like I was watching some ironic French deep dive film where they mock politicians. And then he's like, oh my gosh, the door's open. I feel like he didn't know that. And he turned and looked and went, oh, oh, oui, bonjour, slap, slap. I mean, I totally did get some Pepe Le Pew vibes, but that was kind of... Now, everybody has been Zapruder analyzing these moves. So his wife, that was his wife, Brigitte Macron, who did this, right? So she slaps him. Is that a slap or a shove? They were trying to say that it was a playful moment. And I'm like, no, sorry, it's not. I mean, her fingers were in his mouth. In his dirty socialist mouth. Does that look like playful to you?
SPEAKER 10 :
It seems like she would have followed through and the smiles, you know what I mean? Then you would have seen both of them in that shot. But instead, he's like, oh, wait, let me wave at the camera here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, guys. Yeah. Yeah, he was surprised. He was completely surprised that everybody saw it. And they were trying to say, oh, well, it was, you know, it was just they were joking around. That's what his people said officially, that it shows that they were joking around. Hmm. I don't know. So she was 40 when he was 15. And she was a teacher and he was a student. In fact, he was in the same grade as her daughter. He was a classmate of her daughter. And she divorced her husband in 2006 and married Macron in 2007. And they've been married for a little while now, but I... It's right, Cain. Dude. It's weird.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's some uncomfortable math.
SPEAKER 12 :
That was in high school. They met in high school. Now, reverse the sexes for a moment. This is why I bring this up. She also wears the wrong shade of foundation for her skin tone. She looks orange and her ears look pale. You can't do that. You can't, you know, especially when, you know, it's like a warm tone and you have a cool blonde. Why are you doing this? Sorry, I just had to do it. I just... They married in 2007. And... I don't know. I just... I'm just analyzing all of this stuff. I feel like she's the power in this relationship. Well... I mean, that's... It's his... That's her daughter's classmate. And she... Again, she was 40. He was 15. And... his parents, Emmanuel Macron's parents, thought he was seeing Brigitte Macron's daughter. And then when they found out that he actually had hots for teacher, they sent him to a boarding school. So what that suggests to me is if they're... It kind of suggests there was something happening in school. That's what I think. They've never said as much, but it does definitely raise some issues there. And... the uh she they've done a couple of interviews about it they've been very tight with how much information that they give out but i mean i i don't know so they ended up getting married and they've you know but that My whole point in bringing that up is to see her shove him in the face like that, even if they were joking. I don't know. To me, that doesn't look like joking around. That looks like her being very forceful and bossy. I feel like she has the control in that relationship, and she kind of pushes him around. Whether or not he would ever admit it, maybe he likes being pushed around. I think people define happiness and strength differently from others. But that's not joking. I mean, if I were him... I don't know. I mean, I don't believe in hitting women, but, man, I would give a little credence to Ike Turner here in this response. I'm just saying, don't be hitting people if you don't want to get hit. That's the size. Look at it. So he's like, oh, hello. Oh, bonjour. Oh, it's the people.
SPEAKER 10 :
He just had a little schmutz right about there. That's all it was. She was just getting that off his face.
SPEAKER 12 :
If you were joking around with your wife who was 25 years older than you came and cougared you while you were in high school, would you think that was a joking move right there?
SPEAKER 10 :
she probably couldn't reach my face, but the joking thing would be like slapping somebody in the arm or hitting them in the chest or whatever. Stop it. You're, you know, playful, but putting your hands in their face.
SPEAKER 12 :
Like, I don't think she's a dude and I'm not going to pretend for, yeah, I don't think she's, no, I'm just saying out loud. I was thinking while you were telling me that I was like, and then it made me think she was pretty forceful.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So I don't in the face. That's not a playful move. Like slapping the arm, the back, her fingers were in his mouth.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know, man. And so that immediately exploded. Can you imagine touching down in Vietnam for state business and this happens? And that happens. Don't do that stuff by the door. How do you not know that door is being opened also? Just be a little bit more aware. Good heavens. But they've been... having to deal with this for the past like two days now so they're like oh my gosh it's no it's we were just joking around and oh the office downplays it they're joking around someone they had a body language expert a couple different so the British publications love getting body language experts And they said, well, this this show tells you about the power play in the marriage. And he was mad. They said he made a fist like Arthur, that anteater from PBS, like he made a fist like after, you know, like down by his side, like, oh, he was mad. And yeah, so they that's they said that he was angry about it. But that wasn't a slap.
SPEAKER 10 :
Apparently, we have another angle of this slap. Let's take a look at this. I don't know if I believe. It's another angle. Is it another angle? Take a look at this one. I don't know about that. Oh, there it is.
SPEAKER 12 :
She's a total punch.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, man. That looks brutal.
SPEAKER 12 :
The Macrongos push in the face by wife was joke, not domestic dispute. That's the BBC horsing around USA Today. Their scandal. Leave it to the New York Post. Their scandal plagued relationship from student teacher affair to this shocking physical altercation. I mean, I just think it gives some insight into the power play into their relationship. That's how I look at this. So, I don't know. But he apparently was, you know, he's all about hunting cougar when he was in high school, man. He enjoyed spending time with his teachers. Who knew, you know? And he enjoyed spending time with his teachers. He was at the Catholic Lycée de Providence. And her oldest daughter, they were, he was a classmate of her. And he liked hanging out with his teachers. And they have all these videos and photos of them back when he was 15. It's really weird. It's just weird, man. And I don't know. I don't know. But apparently he had relationships. This is why I think that something inappropriate was happening earlier. So one book said that Brigitte's family found out about the... She apparently had affairs. And the accusation was that she was having an affair with him in high school and that they got caught sunbathing in 1994 at the home of her parents and that it caused a lot of drama in the families when the affair was discovered and then he was sent to boarding school. Regardless, he was sent away at one point because of this. So just saying, I think... reverse the sexes. Why is it that women always are like, oh, you can't be a predator because you're a woman? Have you ever met a woman? Women are natural predators and men don't even know it half the time. That's the thing. Like men are all out there and they do everything above board. Women are below board. Women are sneaky. So why don't they act like she's a predator? Kane, this would have been... This would be scandalous if you had a leader in the United States today who had dated his teacher when he was 15 and then married her.
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Without a doubt.
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I think they should just ban the damn things personally. But, you know, I mean, I guess that's a step. in the right direction but yeah I think like banning it would be super helpful welcome back to the program Dana Lash with you because now we know it was not it wasn't even a therapeutic I'm not even going to say that it was a therapeutic what did it it didn't do anything like ivermectin was a therapeutic hydroxychloroquine those were therapeutics this I mean you had to say that it was a quote-unquote vaccine or you got penalized I mean, we got so, by the way, YouTube, just dying in AIDS fire. That's just a garbage platform. We got hit so many times on YouTube because of that stuff. We are forever penalized for talking openly and honestly about this stuff on YouTube. It's just, I got to tell you, in all of my entire career, this has been the worst time to be alive for information. it is awful. It is murkier and even more oppressive than before the internet. It is heinous. The internet is the demon. And I'm telling you, it is impossible because algorithms will filter out everything that does not serve the algorithm, right? So the more ridiculous and the dumber it is, that's That even on discussions like on this stuff, like when you would go online and you were you would be looking at videos about therapeutics and vex. I mean, they would suppress everything out. I don't think the damage has ever been undone fully. We got dinged for it a million times, threatened. And it's just the dumbest time to be alive, honestly, with this. There's not an information overload. It's never been more restricted. So this is a step in the right direction. But it should be banned outright. It was experimental and it didn't work. Stick with us. Second hour next. Who knows what's going to happen with the economy? I don't know. It's all over the place. And I think that you want to make sure that you have something tangible, something that doesn't lose value. When you look at the debt, I mean, the bill that's going to go through the Senate, we're going to be adding trillions of dollars onto the debt. We're not cutting any spending. they say we are but we're not and i'm going to deep dive into that even more but you want to be prepared i mean you want to be prepared and this is never especially now not the time to be complacent right now you can visit danalikesgold.com get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today you could also qualify and get unlimited bonus silver i mean real silver that's instantly matched to your account tax and penalty free. Gold and silver have stood the test of time. Generations of smart investors have turned to precious metals as a hedge during periods of economic instability. Hard assets offer real security. So get educated before you invest. They also make it easy. You get a free 2025 gold and silver kit that breaks down everything you need to know about how these precious metals can fit into your financial strategy. Now, if you qualify for GoldCo will match your investment with unlimited bonus silver. I mean, that's unbeatable. So visit danalikesgold.com and join the thousands of people who've called GoldCo, the number one rated gold company. Right now, you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for and get unlimited bonus silver. That's danalikesgold.com.
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SPEAKER 12 :
I didn't want that. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second hour. And we're watching. BLM activists, let me read the D script. BLM activists kneeling in front of, oh, a target randomly for the five-year anniversary of George Floyd. Are you kidding me? First off, why are we in front of a target? Like it's the Basilica. Do you know why, Kane? Why is it in front of, is that the one that rioters burned and looted and murdered?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think that's, yeah, I think that's it.
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St. George Floyd, you know, the patron saint of fentanyl. And armed assault against pregnant women everywhere. You laugh, but it's true. Welcome back to the program. It's Memorial Day weekend, but we had to deal with a bunch of stupid stuff because everybody was trying to horn in on Memorial Day weekend. Oh, it's the five-year anniversary of George Floyd. Did you guys ever see the toxicology report from him? Is that something we can talk about or no? Are we allowed to talk about that? It goes against narratives, though, guys. Super bad. Like, apparently you're a big bad person if you talk about those at all. Well, the reality of the situation is that the dude was high as a kite when all of that happened. I don't know if people were aware of it, but true. He was high as a kite. In fact, it was sort of rolling around On Exile Weekend, because people were, these BLM activists, you had other lawmakers that were tweeting out the, I guess like remembrances or something for him. And I just feel like you're not really telling the whole story. of what happened here. But they were getting into all of this. The toxicology, in fact, it was released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner and Dr. Andrew Baker, and he had concluded, according to the toxicology report, that he had overdosed. So without even anybody even doing anything, he was already not really able to breathe. Just FYI. They said that his blood looking at some of this, his he had no life threatening injuries identified. That was on page two of the toxicology report. It got into greater detail with everything else, but they said no life-threatening injuries were identified. He had no injuries of the anterior muscles of his neck or laryngeal structures, et cetera, et cetera, going on and on because they look over the whole body. But then what they discussed was the full toxicology report. is that his blood, drug, and novel psychoactive substances that were screened, he tested positive for a number of things, meth and fentanyl being top. And then they test for everything else. Yes, he had had caffeine, all this other stuff, but he tested positive for fentanyl, for methamphetamines, and it gives the breakdown. He had tons of stuff in his system. He had Delta-9 in his system, which that just goes to show you they tested for everything. They could even tell you he had coffee that day. But cane, the fentanyl. Yeah, that.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's not a health supplement, is it?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, it's not a health supplement. The methamphetamine, though.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's also not healthy.
SPEAKER 12 :
So the reason why this is important to bring up is because people were trying to hijack Memorial Day for this, for this stuff. They had WNBA, Audiosembre 10, that were honoring the death of George Floyd, the anniversary of this death, the WNBA. I don't even know if we can play it because YouTube needs to die in an AIDS fire.
SPEAKER 10 :
We can play this little clip. Probably no audio, though.
SPEAKER 12 :
So ridiculous. Yeah, they were acknowledging them on the court. It's fair use, but YouTube takes advantage of people not being able to litigate it. But, you know, it's just so stupid. This is so stupid. So we're lionizing a drug dealer who beat women. Man, Democrats love that, don't they? I mean, let me just roll down the greatest hits here. In 97, his first defense was drug possession. In 1998, he stole a gun, served 10 months in jail. 2002, he had possession of cocaine. with intent to distribute eight months in prison 2004 cocaine possession uh etc etc uh 2005 again drugs drug drugs 2007 also aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon during a home invasion so he broke into somebody's home and held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach usa today how did they say this would you like to hear the headline George Floyd's legacy under siege as racial justice efforts lose ground and memorials are removed. Well, the Lord took down one of the memorials. There was a mural that was struck by lightning. Can you remember that story? The George Floyd mural was struck by lightning. And it sort of, it was in Toledo, Ohio. And it collapsed. And that was like the famous mural where it was his face on the side of a brick wall. Proportionally, it was weird, but okay. But in 2021, it was struck by lightning. And the wall collapsed. And so, I guess they're going to pick through the bricks here. But that's I mean, this guy was not a saint. And he was there was even questions as to what his behavior or what his activities or what he was doing there when he had the encounter with police. But bottom line is, you know, you can sit here and go, well, you shouldn't have been whatever for this or. But Derek Chauvin did not kill George Floyd. Fentanyl killed George Floyd. George Floyd killed George Floyd. Oh, but we're not supposed to say this kind of stuff. There were still there were some Republican lawmakers that up until like two years ago were still making videos about this. Some of them are running for governor of some states now. Just got to say they were making videos of stuff like this talking about and Chauvin. Is he going to get a pardon? You think, Kane? Do you think Trump is actually going to pardon him?
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I don't know. I think it's still a third rail issue in their minds. And because we're rolling into midterms and, of course, the general after that, I think Republicans are going to do everything they can to not touch it, like the abortion thing.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hmm. Well, there's a lot of discussion about it. The... M.P.D. chief said that there it would be unlikely. I don't know how he would know. But I but I think it would only address to because there's any of state charges on him. So it only address the federal charges. So he may not even I mean, he could say he could get pardoned. Trump could pardon him, but that doesn't affect the state charges. That's one of the reasons why, for instance, Carbon Mike is sitting in Rikers because that's a state charge with New York. and they have it's not federal law allows what he does the state law which should be overturned uh doesn't and that's why he's sitting in jail so and carbon mike as you know law-abiding firearm enthusiast and he was arrested for being a conservative black man that likes guns and that's a that's god's honest truth absolutely that's the only reason he was arrested because he's a conservative black man uh who has firearms and progressives that scared them since the Even if he did, I don't know what the penalty for those state charges separately is. So he still might actually remain in jail from that. But I think a lot of I think that there's also the left is using that specter of. a potential pardon as a get out the vote as a way to agitate and get this is so you have your period before midterms where you're trying to get people out and you want to register voters and you want to kind of seed the ground so you see where your strongholds are and where your weak spots are in terms of your canvassing and etc etc and we're getting into that period right now before midterms before leading up to that and i think that that's what some of this is being used for But, I mean, they had... Let me pull this up. There were, like, these remembrance things that were taking place all weekend. I don't know. And you had lawmakers that, like Jasmine Crockett and others, that were tweeting about him. But, yeah, he was absolutely... He was high as a kite when all of this happened. And the... fentanyl and the, I'm looking at the list, methamphetamine. I mean, it gives the amounts, Cain. I just, all I know is that I see a little bit of fentanyl and that looks like it's all bad. It looks like it's a lot of fentanyl. It looks like that killed him.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we know that a little fentanyl goes a long way, apparently.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, I think it's horrible that, I mean, Derek Chauvin's being accused of killing this guy and he didn't do it. He didn't do it, but he's paying the price for this narrative. Can you imagine building or painting a mural and creating a statue and doing all the stuff for a guy who held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach? I mean, he served time in prison for that. I mean, he's been convicted repeatedly of dangerous crimes. And just like with Kilmar Brego Garcia, who is the left constantly upholding? Who is the left constantly celebrating? I mean, this guy is super. He was super dangerous. uh the uh yeah the home invasion i mean i'm like just looking up distribution uh cocaine blah blah i mean i read one piece they were trying to make the case that he was getting into fentanyl distribution but and that but that piece was like 15 months ago so there hadn't been any updates so i don't know how much stock you put in it but it was a uh i think it was a usa today piece but um I mean, he was a hardened criminal. He was a hardened criminal. And I think he was just conveniently used by people who hate the United States. Even here, they hate the United States. I mean, I just don't know how else to put it. It's unfortunate. There was so much destruction. And then they have this USA Today piece that they run on Memorial Day weekend. His legacy is under siege. Racial justice efforts lose ground. Do you know why those efforts lost ground? Because you pinned it on a drug dealing, woman beating, violent reoffender. Criminal offender. Repeated criminal offender. That's why. This is what gets me. You want to talk about racial justice and Tick off with your racial justice. Dexter Taylor is sitting in a jail cell right now in Rikers, but nobody's coming to his defense. He doesn't have a record like George Floyd. He didn't get any acknowledgments this past weekend. Nobody said anything. None of these race hustlers, none of these two-bit grifters said a damn thing about Dexter Taylor. Oh, but they're all over the place about fentanyl taken, woman beaten George Floyd. Oh, my gosh. The patron saint of holding women at gunpoint by pointing the barrel at their pregnant abdomens. Oh, my gosh. The patron saint of that and fentanyl. St. George. Oh, they're all over him for that. And then they had the audacity to ask afterwards. Oh, my gosh. Why are these efforts losing ground? Well, let's see what you pin them on. What who is the person that you pinned your efforts? Oh, that guy. Meanwhile, you have an innocent family man that has zero record. His only crime is that he is not a Democrat and he builds firearms for his own personal use, has zero criminal record at all. And he's been thrown into jail. And the crazy thing is that what he does is federally allowed. New York decided way late in the game that they were going to change it and arbitrarily create a bunch of brand new felons overnight. But you don't hear these people out in the streets over Dexter Taylor. Racial justice, my ass. You bunch of shallow grifters. Every single damn one of you. It's all a joke. It is an absolute joke. People hold up these thugs like George Floyd and meanwhile, like actual honorable patriots named Dexter Taylor, sit in a jail cell. I guess there's no money to be made for these Al Sharpton wannabes out there advocating for Dexter Taylor, is there? Always gone when it counts. So let's be real. Medical freedom isn't just a catchphrase. It's your right. Your health decisions belong to you and not the government, not Big Pharma, and definitely not someone elected bureaucrat. So that's why I'm all in on what All Family Pharmacy is doing. They're putting medical power back where it belongs, and that's in the hands of you, Americans. Through the end of June, they're making it even easier to take back control because when you control your health, you protect your family, your future, and your freedom. Get 20% off site-wide. No insurance? No problem. No insurance needed. And licensed doctors in all 50 states. You'll also receive fast shipping straight to your doorstep. This isn't just about convenience. It's also about freedom. You can get ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. You can get methylene blue, emergency kits, antibiotics. whatever you need to be prepared, proactive, and protected. So visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use promo code Dana20 to get 20% off your order. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana20. Don't wait for permission. Own your health and take your freedom seriously.
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So a study links technology use to a lower risk of cognitive decline. I believe this wholeheartedly. Oh, I absolutely think so. The study says that this is analysis they looked at several thousand people. They said that there was a 58 percent reduced risk of cognitive decline. impairment in people middle-aged or over engagement with digital but they said that 50 they they look they also did a systematic review of 57 other studies and what they determined is that exposure to technology actually harms cognition amongst younger adults and they looked at half of they looked at half a million adults the average age was 69 so that's kind of interesting oh here's kane there you go He says old people aren't innocent. It's a senior fight club. Apparently there was a large fist fight at a senior citizen center. And this is at Minnesota. They are investigating. They don't know what started it. The article doesn't tell me because it won't load. So just so you know that they had a big old knockdown drag out fight. And can you imagine being like police? Right. And you're called to a senior citizen center. And you have to break up a fight there. Let's see. A three-year-old was airlifted to a hospital after being trapped under a sack of seeds in Lancaster. That's horrible. I mean, you've got to be really careful with that stuff. But I think he's expected to recover. The boy's dad gave him CPR. Stick with us. I've said for years now that our media is just garbage. Legacy Press is garbage. How does the average person know if a news story, if the source is accurate or if it's biased? Ground News can be a great solution for that. Ground News can show you the stories and the sources of the day, and then they give you details about their sourcing. how reliable the reporting is and who owns them, and keep you fully informed on any potential political or motivational leanings. So, for instance, you could use Ground News to read about the Trump administration suing the state of Maine over participation of transgender athletes in girls' sports. The Huffington Post said, quote, Trump's newest political power grab is targeting Maine. The Toronto Sun said, quote, DOJ is to sue Maine over trans women competing in female sports. So same story, but two very different headlines. Is it a power grab by the president or is it in the hands of the DOJ? You can sign up for your Ground News account today and get access to the mobile app. the website, the browser extension, and exclusive newsletter so you can stay informed on the news and the bias. Visit groundnews.com slash Dana today to get 40% off the Ground News Vantage plan and get access to all of their news analysis and features. That's groundnews.com slash Dana for 40% off the Ground News Vantage plan for a limited time only. Groundnews.com slash Dana for 40% off.
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I'm already falling asleep with this guy. Jiminy Christmas. I could play this and just fall asleep at night. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. That's what's his face? Scott Pelley with 60 minutes. Whatever. I don't care. Can you just give a commencement address where you're not a jack wagon and you don't have to, you know, turn your own crank about your political beef? Is that possible? Oh, my gosh. Can't even have a graduation. Can't have a graduate. Can't even have a commencement address without people being dumb about it. He... And I don't know what university that was at, but it wasn't just him. You also had Kermit the Frog. Yes, the puppet. Now, is it really too far off though for progressives, a felt animal with a hand up its backside to maneuver its mouth? Is that really, I mean, we just underwent four years of that in an administration. So is it beyond the realm of belief that we saw it with a commencement address? But apparently, there was some upset over the puppet that delivered a woke commencement address. And this was SCCU. So, this is the University of Maryland. Listen.
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I used to have fun in the swamp playing leapfrog. It was our favorite game. Kind of our only game. But we loved it. Except for my cousin, Albert. He never actually left. He just stepped on your back and used your head like a lily pad. Sure, he got ahead, but it was only by stepping on you. We've been told that that's how you succeed and some choose to believe it.
SPEAKER 12 :
What?
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But I know their way.
SPEAKER 12 :
I really want to step on that frog right now.
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So as you prepare to take this big leap into real life.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm going to be like Naboo from the Naboutique. Mighty Boosh. I don't like this frog. I'm going to give him a squeeze. That was a deep dive. So it's a puppet. Kane.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a puppet. I don't. I'm done. I'm just going to throw things now and we'll finish the show that way. You deserved you people who had a puppet for your speaker. You deserve it. I don't feel bad for you. People said that it was way off base. And he said, quote, rather than jumping over someone to get what you want, consider reaching your hand out and taking a leap side by side. Step the hell off. No, no, no. What you do and the choices you make are your choices, and that is your direction in life. You do not owe it to anybody. Do not conflate this with good stewardship. It's not the same thing. And life isn't better when you leap together. What if you change yourself to somebody like Mike Brown? Hands up, don't shoot. Oh, wait. You've got to think about who you're leaping with. Just do it. Just give a commencement address. Make it about the grads. And shut up. Take your little honorary whatever and shut up. And get off this stupid stage with your shut up mouth. Nobody cares. But it's a puppet. I would have gone up there and slapped it. Just boom.
SPEAKER 10 :
Puppet. It doesn't reflect how I thought the Muppets were. I thought they were a little rebellious. Remember the Muppet movie?
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, is this a kid thing? You're a grown-ass adult, and you're standing there at your commencement address. You're in your 20s. You're getting a college degree, and you have a child's show puppet who's giving you your commencement address. Really? Okay. I mean, to me, that's like you couldn't get anybody better. You couldn't get anybody better. You're just kind of talking down to the college kids. I don't know. I don't know. But to even to make it a wokery thing the way that they did is... I don't know. I just kind of take a breath whenever we have these commencement addresses. I just kind of... Oh, what's it going to be like? I just noticed the... older I get the less tolerance I have for any of this to the point where it needs to be vocalized right and not just on my radio program I can't imagine I have a puppet but that's how seriously they take this Apparently, if you wanted to know how seriously they take your kids, if you're a young adult, you're in your early 20s and you wanted to know how seriously they take you, then that's there's the private. There's the example right there. So we had a 15 minute speech and they had a sing along. and how wait so you had somebody walk up and kneel down underneath the podium and then stick their hand up this frog's backside and hold their arm up there so you saw the person walk up there it's not like you saw kermit the frog walk up right it's not it was somebody and they had to get down there and then do the frog so no suspension of disbelief no No, that's just as cheesy and it's goofy. All of it's just... Just give the commencement. Colleges, just do right by the students for once in your god-awful lives. Just do right by the students and have a decent commencement speaker. Please. That's all anybody's ever asking for. Good grief. It doesn't have to be this tortured. NPR, speaking of public broadcasting... NPR has filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration. They're claiming that Trump's order. Remember the executive order that Congress hasn't codified and Congress won't ever codify it. So we're all having a sugar high. And in 2028, all this is going to get reversed. It will. NPR filed a First Amendment lawsuit. They said defunding them, depriving them of government money is a quote unquote clear violation of the Constitution. So the founders made sure, apparently, to enshrine an unaccountable entitlement to taxpayer dollars as a civil right within the United States Constitution. Who knew? Who knew? How is that a First Amendment right? You're a government entity, first and foremost. The lawsuit says that the executive order violates both the, quote, expressed will of Congress and the First Amendment's bedrock guarantees of freedom and of speech and freedom of the press and freedom of association and, quote, well, you're not a free press. You take your marching orders from one particular ideology. You're not free to associate. You take your marching orders from one particular ideology. Now, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting already filed a separate suit. So this is a new one. And it is. I mean, this is I think this is just absolutely silly. You don't have a you don't get to just demand taxpayer dollars. It's a it's a it's I don't even I would even argue that the creation of Corporation for Public Broadcasting doesn't even fall within the parameters of the enumerated rights. Article one, Section eight. That's not what was meant by in terms of artistic endeavors that help promote, you know, the the Americana that help promote the U.S. This is this is just it's it's just a grab bag. It's a slush fund for far left ideology. That's all it's ever been. Why does the government have to provide taxpayer dollars to any media outlet as part of the First Amendment? Where in the First Amendment is that defined and dictated? Oh, well, the government has to provide taxpayer dollars to a media entity. While you simultaneously declare yourselves a free press, explain to me how that works. You're demanding to be entirely subsidized by the taxpayer through the federal government, and yet you also have the audacity to proclaim yourselves as, quote unquote, the free press. How? When you're entirely funded by the government on which you were supposed to report, how are you a free press? I, you know, I've had this conversation with people before. I think the idea, honestly, the idea of a free press or the idea of an unbiased press is a lie. And that's been something that's relatively new. The press in this country never got started as like, you know, the ombudsman for the government and never it. It was always ever like political oppo or you had whether it was penny press or whatever it was. It was always designed for that purpose. It's just that it operated by the principle of more, not fewer voices. If you saw speech you didn't like, you drowned it out with more speech that you did like. That's how that works. And then the government gets involved and they want to micromanage and regulate everything to extinction. The government does not exist to give money to media entities. And if PBS felt so confident about its broadcasting, then I wonder why it doesn't go into an entirely consumer-based model the way every other media outlet operates. Thank you. Don't call yourselves press even. Definitely not free press. You're begging to get latched back onto the teat of Uncle Sam. Ew. But it's true. So if you're so confident about your work, then you need to switch to a consumer-supported model the way every other media outlet operates. We operate that way. Why does NPR think they're better than we are? Why does PBS think that they are better than we are? See, this allows them to suck and be horrible and produce communist chill. That's all it does. It's sludge. They get to do that because they have... A tap. They have a spigot right to the federal tax dollars, our money. And that's what does it. So, no, you don't you don't get as part of your First Amendment right. You don't get to say we also have to be taxpayer funded. That's a first. That's not what defines or establishes a First Amendment right. Earn your own way. Pay your fair share. Good heavens. The folks who help bring you the program, Patriot Mobile. 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But he shot this insurance executive. And I mean, there's this whole host of people trying to justify it because their insurance got canceled. Therefore, it's okay to go assassinate some insurance worker. That is teetering on anarchy.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Well, this comes by way of Fox 13. This is kind of a crazy story. So apparently, Polk County deputies, they shot and killed an armed man who was attacked by an alligator while he was swimming across the lake. And then he charged at the deputies with a pair of garden shears and then tried to grab a gun from one of the patrol vehicles. And I mean, I know there's a lot here. So it was in Lakeland, Florida, and he was armed with garden shears. He, 42-year-old Timothy Scholes, and this was Monday morning. He swam across a lake right before deputies arrived, and then he charged at them with garden shears after trying to take a gun from a patrol vehicle. They were searching for him just before 6 a.m. after he was reported, after they got called in by a convenience store clerk that reported on him. And the residents of a nearby neighborhood, they called the sheriff's office. This was the second report on the guy. They said there's a man out here swimming in an alligator-infested lake. And they tried to throw him a life preserver, and he was said to have growled at the neighbors. When they tried to help him. And apparently witnesses and several witnesses told deputies that there was an alligator that was spotted swimming towards him as he was swimming across the lake. And he emerged from the lake. He apparently got bit by a gator while he was in the lake. He was walking between houses holding a pair of garden shears. And then he tried to use a brick to break into another resident's truck. And they... They said that... This is what Grady Judd said. He said, quote, the fact that he was bitten by an alligator significantly and still continued his rampage is shocking. But if you're on enough meth, the person you see is not the person that's attacking. So apparently he was methed up out of his mind. They did finally take him into custody. Well, they were going to get him into custody. They were trying to, and he charged at them with shears and tried to break into a car, and they had to shoot. So he... Wow. I mean, can you imagine? First off, he got bit by a gator in an alligator infested lake and still swam out. I don't even know. So, oh, can we? A Florida man who shot and poisoned dolphins was sentenced to one month. Yeah. A Florida man who shot dolphins and poisoned them. He was sentenced to just 30 days in prison and a year of supervised release. The 31-year-old Zachary Barfield shot the bottlenose dolphins and then used poisoned bait. He got mad because they were eating from his charter fishing clients. And the he shot at five of them, killing one of them and then used poisoned bait on dozens more during outings from Panama City. And they said that he fed about 24 to 70 dolphins, poison laden bait fish. Yeah. And they said that he there were all kinds of tips going in on him that he was killing wildlife. So what a jerk. Dude, take his license. Yeah, I wouldn't want him operating a charter. No way. Absolutely not. I wouldn't want to go in any boat. That guy's driving. Good heavens. Let's see. This is in Oakland Park. Let me pull this up. A Wendy's restaurant in South Florida. It was badly damaged by a vehicle. Vehicle ran right into the Wendy's, and apparently it was a Wendy's employee who was behind the wheel of the vehicle that ran into the Wendy's. No injuries were reported. They go, it's unclear what caused the employee to crash into the restaurant. Is it, though? Is it unclear? Hmm. I mean, it's early, early or late at night or early in the morning, depending on how you look at it. And they drive into a Wendy's. Okay. Yeah, sure. Third hour on the way. What's next with the budget bill? I'll explain. Stick with us. Burn a gun. We told you before. I always carry and I have no problem using lethal force, but you know i have friends that don't live in texas one of my really good friends lives in washington dc and by the nature of their work they're you know they're a big kid they got to go places where they have to for their work they can't always say no but it's like doesn't matter if you have a license to carry their gun-free zones abound because of private property and municipal restrictions my friend went out and got the berna sd now they want the bernard cl that's the new one that they have it arrived just in time for mother's day too it is the smallest and most powerful compact launcher that they have it's only I mean, it's like smaller. It's like this actually same size as my 43X. It's like almost maybe seven inches long, super slim. And if you're unfamiliar with the Burna gun, it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 60 feet away. They have the SD, which is, and they have different models. But I think for the purpose of this, for self-defense, when you can't carry, I think the CL and the SD make the most sense. And the CL... It I mean same as the others can disable threats with these chemical irritant projectiles up to 50 feet away and It doesn't care about gun-free zone signs or there's no background checks. There's no waiting period they can send it right to your door So it's accessible for everybody do not allow yourself to be rendered Defenseless, I mean if you can't carry you need to always it's good to have a diversified weapons array you carry knives, right? I mean you have different caliber of firearm. You have rifles and pistols this makes sense as well and This is the new CL, the compact launcher from Burna. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. Check out the new Burna CL. B-Y-R-N-A. It's a cutie little thing, but it doesn't have a, doesn't shoot cutie little things. Burna.com slash Dana. 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consumer confidence from the conference board on the headline number we're expecting a number somewhere north of eighty seven comes in strong ninety eight point all that is the best number since february of this year but i want to point out something in the rearview mirror last month's Revision from 86 to 85.7 means that last month's headline confidence equals April of 2020, COVID affected. But you have to go back another six years to May of 2014 to find a lower number than 85.7. So a nice rebound over what was most likely a market exaggeration.
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And we'll see because we still have to wait for if any other. I mean, there has to be a lot of other deals that have to be made. And so far we have what? Something with the UK and India. And then we may. I haven't heard anything else with Italy. I just don't want Italian wines to be tariffed to death. I don't care about China. So we got, which we're going to talk about. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. And we are at the top of this third hour. You can listen across the country. Channel 347 is how you watch the radio program. I the reason I'm not getting excited and I'm not following the day to day of all that is because I think it's so much of it hinges upon. Well, it's still incredibly volatile, number one. But number two, so much of it hinges upon these deals that have not yet come to fruition. I mean, those are just two countries of 70 something that we have to solidify new negotiations with and come to some kind of deal and conclude these negotiations with. And we are going into midterm season and we're getting closer and closer. And I'm just, I don't know, I'm not being a cynic, I'm being a realist. And I just don't know if we're going to be able to keep the House if we don't get some of this other stuff done. There's a lot that's been reported on over this weekend about a potential split with Musk and Trump. We always knew he was going to be leaving in May, but his remarks on social media have been very interesting, particularly when he replied to people who said that it was unfortunate that he did all this work and they uncovered it. And I agree that I don't think it's the problem uncovering waste, fraud and abuse. The problem is making it getting rid of it permanently. And someone said that he took all of this heat and for what Republicans didn't include a bit of it in this bill. And he said, yes, I tried. He tried. It's the closest we're ever going to get in our lifetimes to anything like that, to any kind of reduction in spending. So, you know, we'll see. But I'm not I think it's a sugar high right now. And I'm worried about what's going to happen in midterms when you have all these lawmakers who decide they're not going to be amenable to any other proposition about reduction of spending or tax cuts. And they dig their heels in in these centrist, big spending rhino positions. And here we're going to be rolling towards potentially losing the House. Guess what happens? You lose the House. You won't get anything else done. It's going to be impeachment palooza for the next two years. And then we'll have a Democrat in 28. Because Republicans are too busy trying to kill their best candidates and not codifying any of the things that voters demanded. So just saying. I don't know. That's just where I am. I'm being very, very realistic. I like to downplay. So that when something great happens, I'm positively, like I'm surprised in a pleasant way, Cain. I like to be pleasantly surprised.
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That's a good way to go about it.
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Yeah. And because I just don't trust any of these people in D.C. I mean, let's be real. Let's just be honest about it. Maybe we should have our AI overlords take over. I have a bunch of headlines about that. That's kind of maybe the aliens are already here and it's them. No, instead of doing things like passing property tax relief, like one of the things this is a big argument in our house. One of the things Texas did is they decided to ban THC. Now, I know that there's different kinds of whatever THC. Bottom line is it's already regulated. It was already legal. And I keep hearing people go and say, oh, you have to protect the kids from what? If you're a good parent, your kid's not going to be out there doing THC or whatever. Do your kids drink? Do they go and buy meth? Because all of those arguments can apply. It's one of the dumbest arguments that I've ever heard in my life. And if I get angry emails, I'm going to make them public. So don't because I'm just tired of hearing. I'm like, it's like, honestly, reefer madness. Any time, Kane, some of the stuff that I've heard, like my cousin overdosed on pot and died. And I'm like, no, they didn't.
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I literally had somebody say that. I'm not kidding you. They said that my cousin overdosed on pot and died. I'm like, hmm, pretty sure it wasn't pot.
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And of all the things the Texas House could have done, this is what they chose to do.
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I hate this because it makes me sound like a hippie, like a pot-smoking hippie, and I'm not. I just don't like big government. I hate big government. I am consistent to the point of it's infuriating how consistent I am to people. I, my kids don't go out and do meth and it's not just because it's already illegal. It's because I parent, I parented them when they were little. They didn't go out and smoke meth because I parented. So THC is already regulated. If you're parenting, guess what? Your kids aren't going to go and get it. They're not going to go and get, give me a name of a yuppie seltzer. What's that yuppie seltzer they all drink? White Claw, that's it. Your kids ain't going to go out and be getting White Claws, are they? No, because your parent... I mean, so why is this any different? Why do you have to ban it? Now, the reason that I bring this up is there are... I know a lot of veterans who have used it as a temporary... when they have come back from their service, they don't want to go on a lot of the heavy opioids. They don't want to go on, I don't even know some of the names of them. One that was thrown out that I had a friend say on social media, what is it, Lexapro? I don't think that's right. I don't actually know what that does. But they said that you would be shocked as to how many combat veterans, when they come back, All of them are like given prescriptions and they all have they can all get like these opioids. But it's the stuff that's more holistic, particularly. What am I thinking of the this is going to sound bad, but it's not the way you think the mushrooms came. So the there was a whole study done and it's taking the. psychoactive part of the mushroom. What is it, the psychosilobin?
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Psilocybin.
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Psilocybin. And using that as a therapeutic to help combat veterans. And there are some very, like, you know, people like Marcus Luttrell and Marcus Capone and some of these other veterans that have really done a lot to advocate for this stuff that have said this actually works without the pharmaceuticals, without the opioids. And they don't take it consistently. They go through a doctor-guided treatment. And it helps to rehabilitate them and ingratiate them back into civilian life from serious duty. And that didn't get picked. Congress was like, nope, that sounds like hippie stuff, so we're not going to take it. And I think a lot of the THC stuff and the CBD stuff is viewed similarly by people who just simply do not know and they don't understand it. And... I mean, I I've tried to read into all the different aspects of like the tea. It's all regulated. I don't know where this idea that it's not regulated comes from. It's already pretty severely. It's legal in Texas, but it's already pretty strictly regulated. You know, you can't be, you know, a seventh grader and go and get, you know, THC consumables or whatever. And so. The idea that it isn't is a that's a that's a false flag. That's a that's a lie. It's an argument that is used to reefer madness people into giving government more restrictions so they can form a big weed monopoly and they can allow, you know, big weed to come in. And they can immediately run all of their competition out because they've regulated it to the point of illegality. And here they have an open market. This has happened in so many states already. You people don't even understand. It is the new mafia. For real. And... With this issue, I just don't see why they argue. You had I mean, a lot of the I'm not going to support a single Republican that votes to do stuff like this. Number one, because you it's a variable. Switch it out and put something else in its place. I mean, it's literally using the gun control variable argument. or the gun control formula and you're switching out different variables. It's the dumbest thing ever. And Republicans are falling all over it because apparently the hot new thing with Texas GOP is to be a big Bush league. And I don't mean that in talking about Major League Baseball, like a Bush league, you know, level reefer madness type of moderate Republican. That's what they're going for. That's like apparently the new thing. And everything, I mean, like I said, it's all regulated. It's already regulated. You have to ask yourself, why are these candidates freaking out over this entity? They're not freaking out over alcohol. They're not freaking out over tobacco. They're not freaking out over, you know, these other things, but this issue specifically. And then go and look at what big weed is trying to do in multiple states all around the nation. And it regulates the competitors out of business. And comes in and creates this whole scheme under the guise of reform where it can practice, you know, like medical marijuana or whatever. And you have to I mean, the state gets a cut and then they use the state's regulation as an enforcer for protecting their business and running out competitors. That's what this is all about. And a lot of these Texas lawmakers, they get special interest kickbacks. A lot of them. Some of the big ones that we've defended for quite a lot. For quite a long time. And so they're totally fine with, hey, they're paid to be ignorant about it and they will completely sign your rights away. So the Republican Party in Texas is one of the most pathetic Republican parties I've ever seen. I keep getting invitations to go and speak at different events, and I don't know how much more caustically I can turn it down. I'm like, no, I am not going to go support a party that literally was trying to bring gun control out of committee in Austin and pass gun control in Texas State. Why do you think I why in the hell would I go raise money for something like that? Oh, I've been I have not made any friends the past several years, but I'm not here to do that. I don't care. It's infuriating to see this stuff. They didn't help with property tax relief. They did this. Our property tax relief. Nothing. Let me give a case in point. Let me give you an example. So I live in a town. We have crazy property taxes here. And there is a debate right now with the Republican run. There's a debate right now with the Republicans in my town that they have these taxpayer-funded programs that kids, et cetera, can participate in, whether it's at the rec center or whatever, their nature reserve. And they're being filled up by people who aren't even residents of our town. So we're paying all these tax dollars that our residents don't even get to. And I had made the suggestion that it should be for residents only. You should have to show proof of being a resident of this town in order to be able to use this. We're taxed enough already. If our tax dollars are being forcibly taken from us under this scheme that you try to admirably say is an extortion, then by God, it should only go to these residents. And I had Republicans messaging me saying that seems really that just seems just really a bad, bad look. That's a bad look. Republicans telling me that even though we're taxed enough already, we shouldn't hold people accountable for our tax dollars are spent, that it's a bad look. It is so prevalent. And it's not just in Austin. It is like all throughout Texas. I have no idea what's happening in the state. It is unlike anything I have ever experienced in my entire life, either in broadcasting or as an activist. So all those Texan Republicans that voted for this stuff, I'm going to remember every single one of you. I'm going to remember when you request to come on my show because it's going to be the first thing that I grill your ass about. And I'm going to ask you about your donations in association with it. I'm going to ask about all of this. Don't ask me to blurb your stupid books. Don't ask me to speak at your stupid fundraisers. Every single time that you sign away liberty, that is a mark against you in my ledger. Hey, folks. So I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising, global trade tensions impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Well, this is pretty significant. Saudi Arabia is going to lift a 73-year alcohol ban ahead of the World Cup. Wow. Wow. So it's going to start in 2026 under a tightly regulated licensing system. And it's they have like they have the World Cup coming in 2034. They have all kinds of stuff. Alcohol has been banned there since 1952, citizens and foreigners alike. And so now they said the new framework is going to provide is going to apply to five star hotels, high end resorts, diplomatic zones and tourist developments. and 600 locations nationwide, and permitted venues can serve beer, wine, and cider. Anything that has 20% alcohol content or more, like spirits, will be restricted. And it can't... Alcohol is not for homes, public spaces, retail outlets, personal production, blah, blah, blah. So it's still... But that's I never actually thought that would happen over there. So very interesting. An Oregon man who quit his job to set sail with his cat arrives to cheering fans in Hawaii. I bet that cat was very excited to be on solid ground. He had a nice lay, but he was welcomed at the Waikiki Yacht Club in Oahu. So I wouldn't be able to I wouldn't do that. Definitely would do with a cat. But there you go. Texas builder required Ten Commandments in public schools moves closer to the governor's desk. And another online trend, grown men are wishing their friends sweet dreams. Stop it. Where's SMOD? No, grown men do not wish your friends sweet dreams. And they said that the majority of the videos are filmed by the wives or girlfriends or fiancés. That's what it is. Stick with us. Stephen Yates coming up. Hard work, self-reliance, showing up. That's what built this country. And it's exactly how our president leads. No excuses, no handouts, just results. But let's be honest, even the most dedicated Americans can't run on empty. Real sleep isn't a luxury. It's essential. And that's where Beam's Dream Powder comes in. It's proudly American-made, created by folks who believe in the same values that we do, discipline, integrity, and doing what it takes to succeed. Dream is a clean, science-backed blend of re-sheet, magnesium, L-theanine, apigenin, and melatonin, carefully formulated to help you fall asleep fast, stay asleep, and wake up refreshed. If you're serious about showing up strong for your family, for work, and your country, then start with Better Sleep. So here's the deal. Beam is giving my listeners the ultimate Patriot discount of up to 40% off. Try their best-selling dream powder and get up to 40% off for a limited time. Just visit shopbeam.com slash danashow and you can use code danashow at checkout. That's shopbeam.com slash danashow and use code danashow for 40% off. Sleep better, wake up stronger, and show up ready for your family, your work, and your country. Because when you're well-rested, you're unstoppable.
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Welcome back to the program. We're at the bottom of this third hour here on Tuesday, which feels like a Monday. It is. It's our Monday. It's all our Monday. So welcome back. You can listen coast to coast. And we have also the stream of the radio program, Channel 347 on DirecTV. Joining me now. Very official background. He is the senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He served in not one, but two presidential administrations. I normally we joke and say, oh, I'm sure he knows where the bodies are buried. I actually think he does. Our good friend Stephen Yates at Yates comes. He joins us now via video. Stephen, always so good to see you. I know you have a lot of travel under underway. I want to ask you right off top of mind. The discussion about any kind of solidified deal or conclusion to a negotiation between the administration and China. Where are we at? Where is the latest with that?
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Well, Dana, I think we're still pretty much in the beginning of the beginning. We're in this 90-day pause. They had their meeting in Geneva. There was some, I think, goals that were staked out. There was a candid exchange about fentanyl. I don't know that there has been any measurable action taken by China on that since the Geneva talks. There is an undeniable trend. that the fentanyl death figures are going down in the United States. That's a blessing, but it's going down from just shockingly high levels to just very high levels. And it's probably due to having a president committed to closing the border. And we have a little bit of a follow-on effect to measure that downturn. So there's some movement there, but not because of negotiated action that I'm aware of. The follow-on conversations continue to happen. Secretary Besson's team, I think, has the lead in talking with Chinese counterparts. And I haven't really heard anything that suggests they're on the verge of something significant. I think the president and his team talk up the possibilities of where this might go. I think that's fine for mood music to try to set the table for conversation. But the Chinese haven't really shown an interest in compromising so far. So we'll have to see.
SPEAKER 12 :
And they downplay any kind of discussion or any hint of discussion, which I find fascinating because we'll get a headline out, you know, something from a press outlet that's friendly to the administration. And they say, oh, well, negotiations are still ongoing. They're underway. A lot of ground's been covered. The administration's very optimistic. And then China comes back and says, no, we haven't had any conversation. We don't know what you guys are talking about. I mean, they don't go that far, but they're pretty much like intimate. You guys are nuts. We haven't talked to you at all. I would think it's somewhere in the middle.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, that's the virtue of having state-run media. You can be as brutal as you want. You can tell them, hey, today we're going to talk about the glass half full and tomorrow we're going to talk about the glass half empty. Today we're just going to make stuff up and you're going to do it with a smile and conviction. Today we're going to be the snarker in chief. And the next day we're going to be just the cuddliest poo bear there ever was that you want to make engagement with. And so all of these things are part of the schizophrenia of being a leader of the Communist Party of China. And in some ways, it's effective. I mean, for all the things that people want to criticize Donald Trump for being a disruptor, unpredictable or what have you, and some of which that might be real and it's helpful. Sometimes the Chinese do all of those things at once. They can be completely schizophrenic and the world either gives them a pass or they just kind of play for time.
SPEAKER 12 :
Interesting. We're talking with our good friend Stephen Yates at Yates Comes On X. This concerns me whenever I see the EU and China discussed in the press in any kind of positive way, because one of my concerns with the implementation of tariffs as a strategy was I didn't want to give any kind of platform for them to grow closer to China or rely upon China instead of relying upon us. And I know some of this comes from the CCP press, but they're saying that China and the EU have been stepping up their cooperation as a response to tariff pressure from the United States and that the Chinese have invested in their investment in the EU surge 47 percent. How much of a concern is this to you from where you stand with the EU growing cozier with China? Or is that something that the EU is using as a way to kind of pressure the United States in return?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, there are countries in Europe that I respect, their leaders I respect, and they seem to be sober-minded about the dragon bear, the threat from Russia and from China, and that those aren't really separable. And so if it's stupid and irresponsible for Europe to be seeking energy dependence upon Russia while asking us to pay for the defense of Europe, then it's also stupid for Europe to increase dependency on supply chains out of China and then act like they're going to be the upholders of international rules-based society, whatever they want to try to call it. And so there is, I think, this problem of Europe allowing itself to drift into irrelevance. But if they would like to be the next colonial horizon for the Chinese Communist Party, then keep doing what they're doing. And frankly, the United States will work with the immense amount of money and serious resources and commitments out of the Gulf and out of other parts of Asia. And we have the wherewithal to run the world with just that. We'd rather sensible Western societies wake up and play by the right sheet of music. But if they won't, I mean, my goodness, I you know, we've talked for years. I am very sour about the Europeans just slumbering to their own demise.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, completely. And we have talked. We've talked about that a lot. And it gets so frustrating. And I agree with you. There are certain individual countries, but the EU as a whole. I noticed that you're going to be speaking – I have two other issues that I want to hit with you. I noticed that you're going to be speaking about semiconductors. You're working – in fact, I think you're going to Taiwan. I don't want to give your calendar away because I feel like you're a national treasure.
SPEAKER 01 :
The Chinese know.
SPEAKER 12 :
We have to protect you. I don't want China to know where you are. But that is – I'm so glad to see that that is that that kind of symposium is happening because we're not at that level yet where we can even get anywhere near what what Taiwan puts out there in terms of semiconductor production. Is that has that relationship? been of how has that been negatively affected with the implementation of tariffs etc because we're not there yet singularly as a nation where we can be self-sufficient with that production on our own i know that we've been trying to deregulate and get to that point but up until now we're not where do we stand with that
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, well, as you know, there's a lot that I would give the Trump administration credit for in pushing a massive reset button. Absolutely necessary, but also risky and costly in some ways. But it's not one where we had a choice. China had disrupted the world in fundamental ways. We had our own stupidity that got in the way in some areas that took us out of the game on manufacturing and refining critical things. And we've had our wake-up call. So now we're in a period of adjustment. I think the Trump administration has done three things very well. They disrupted. reframed, got the new strategic going, and they're in negotiations. That's all great, but that startup, they don't seem to have the glide path strategies to where we'll be able to sustain clean supply chains in a time of crisis without having overwhelming leverage held by China on us or on our allies, for that matter. That's where the biggest part of this reset is getting our economic strategies with our allies aligned better with our national security alliances. And I think with Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and a few others, we're in a good place on that. We have progress to be made. But this symposium I'm going to is really going to be talking about the real world, well, such as it is when you're talking AI and other technologies, outside of sort of government speak. So where is the private sector going with all of this? And how can the private sectors in our allied countries drive our slumbering governments in a better direction for the benefit of us all. And Taiwan's engineers and tech policy people are some of the best in the world. And we have better people in America in some areas too, but we have to have these critical conversations. So we're at the front end. I think of something very, very good that's a huge opportunity. It's driving trillions of dollars of investment into the United States. That's also a good thing the Trump administration has opened the door for. But we have to get serious about collective deterrence on China that's not seeking a war, that's avoiding a war. And it's letting those who are ready, willing, and able to buy and manufacture things for their own defense, let them go ahead and do that. And sort of end the old silly rules that got in the way of pretending they aren't a country, they shouldn't have certain technologies. I mean, my goodness, if the North Koreans can possess nuclear weapons, I'm not saying everybody should, but we ought to really think twice about the restraints we've tried to put on responsible partners.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, completely. Last last issue for you. This is it's still involving China, but it's obvious it's in a different part of the world. This breakdown between Pakistan and India and China's involvement. And then there's this separatist entity in Pakistan, Balochistan, that wants to break away. is this, how can this work in our favor? You and I've talked about the significance of India before and they don't like China, which makes me like them because they don't like China and anybody who's kind of a geopolitical enemy of China, I feel like is my friend too. But that, I just feel like there's a major opportunity for United States influence in that region with regards to that breakdown. What is your just kind of 30,000 foot view of that?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, number one, I don't think your instincts are at all out of line in terms of looking at that part of the world and seeing India as an opportunity. For many decades, it has been slow to rise to that opportunity, and maybe we weren't fantastic either. But I think Prime Minister Modi is different. He's certainly long tenured now. I think in general, we are ready to move. in that neighborhood in directions that India is ready to sort of carry the weight and we're playing a supporting role. That's consistent with the philosophy in the Persian Gulf. It's consistent with the philosophy of Europe and other areas where we are rebalancing. So I'd say if India is ready to do things that will result in alternative paths to peace and prosperity, if we collaborate and support them, then we should really think long and hard about doing that. Now, I would not be looking for any small change in this fractured part of the world, changing the dynamics between India and Pakistan themselves. This is a blood feud that goes back a good ways. And so it's a little bit of Hatfield and McCoy's territory. A little patch of ground is not going to change that fundamental direction. But I'd still pick the side of that that is the big democracy, the big economy, the big friend-shoring area to get us out of dependence with China. Those are all the things that push the direction your instincts were taking you. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I love how you put that. That is actually the perfect way to describe that, like that hat filled in McCoy, kind of distilling it down to that. That makes it, yes, very, very bite-sized and very easy to comprehend. Stephen Yates, that's why you're the best, at YatesCom on X. I almost said Twitter, on X. So good to see you. Safe travels. And, yeah, we've got to protect you at all costs. We need you. Thank you, my friend.
SPEAKER 21 :
I appreciate it. Thanks so much, Dana. Take care.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 12 :
So this week, the latest with that big, beautiful build, it's in the Senate and they have to go over the thousand plus pages and make sure that it's in compliance with that Byrd rule. And you remember the Byrd rule was it's it comes into effect as it's it's it comes into effect pertaining to anything that isn't germane to the budget bill. Right. So it's. If it is greater than the budget impact, it has to be discarded per the Byrd rule. And so that's one of the reasons why they were sort of hamstrung, which I don't like it because that means they lie to you. And that's only in the reconciliation process, by the way, when they're trying to get 51 instead of 60 votes to get around the filibuster. But they knew that they were going to have to do this. Now, the House isn't bound by it, but the Senate is. So the House, in order for the Senate to consider it, it can't. And that's almost meaningless. I mean, they basically both have to abide by it. But the Senate's going to go through it, probably trash a lot of it. But I mean, it's not a great bill. It's just it's really isn't. And there we don't have the doge cuts in there. They did cut some of the green nude scam. But in so much as you're limiting the rate of growth and you're moving some spending around. So it's kind of a shell game, too. But I just don't see how Democrats aren't thrilled with it because they got pretty much everything that they wanted in this. I think they did include the no tax on tips that they were able to include that. But I always go back to, well, why are we only signaling out one part of the workforce? That seems, you know, and I don't care if it's a first step. That's just weird. You know, like go go whole hog. People were. I think that the Republican Party missed an opportunity to go as hard as they could have. And I think if they would have hit as hard with this stuff, I mean, Trump came out and was doing EO after EO. I think if Congress would have followed up and would have hit it as hard and would have gotten very brutal in terms of whipping votes, then... I think that people would be more pleased with it, and I honestly think that we would have a better bill to send to the Senate than what we have. So that's what they're doing this week. The House wanted to get it to the Senate by Memorial Day, so now the Senate has it. They're going to go through with it and scrub it down and tear it apart and all that stuff. So it has to go through some procedural maneuvering before we get to that floor vote and then before it would make its way to Trump's desk. That's that's the latest with the with the so-called one big, beautiful bill. And that's the kind of the breakdown of it. So we'll follow it this week and give you updates. In the meantime, today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. It's Representative Glenn Ivey. He was bragging about, well, visiting a criminal, an illegal alien criminal that he somehow calls constituent. I don't understand is he's not a citizen. the United States so I don't know how it is but listen this is cut 8-1 Glenn Ivey here oh these are Democrats listen
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm the congressman that represents Omar. I came all the way down to the United States after we contacted their ambassador, after we made formal requests to our ambassador to the El Salvadoran government. And we came here to visit him today. And now they're telling us we got to go all the way back to El Salvador.
SPEAKER 10 :
The fact that you're saying.
SPEAKER 12 :
And if he was, that means he voted illegally. Yeah. And that his vote doesn't count because he's not in the country legally. So how is he even able to vote for you if he's, see, words have meanings. That does it for us today. Find us on Substack, Chapter & Verse, YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
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In this episode, Scott Watley brings together experts and enthusiasts to explore the current landscape of outdoor activities across Colorado. A key focus is on Austin Parr, who shares detailed fishing reports and crucial updates from Discount Fishing Tackle. The conversation also touches on pressing legislative actions that may affect local anglers, like the campaign against live minnow sales. As always, safety is paramount, so tune in for essential boat safety tips as summer fishing heats up. Stay informed and prepared with Sportsman of Colorado.
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sports from Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. Hey, it has been a while since our next guest has been with us, and that's been totally my fault. Glad to welcome back Austin Parr, Discount Fishing Tackle. They are located at 2645 South Santa Fe. Austin Parr, how are you, my friend? I'm doing great, Scott. How are you? I'm good, man. I'm good. Dude, is it crazy to you or is it just me that you just wake up and like we're almost to June, you know? Gosh.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's it. Yeah, I mean, we're moving into the heart of fishing season. We were just discussing all our turkeys a few weeks ago and all this.
SPEAKER 05 :
late post-spawn stuff and then you snap your finger and the walleyes really bite wow how cool is that we'll get into some reports with you in a minute but hey i wanted to bring up something with you um you know needless to say this has been the the largest attack in so many ways uh if you take even prop 127 to now with all the things we're seeing with guns and You know, of course, the fur ban thing, we won that and all. But let's talk a minute. There was something about some minnows where they were wanting to outlaw that. So bring us up to speed on what you know about that and then kind of how we can just keep everybody educated of how this is moving along.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so here's a quick synopsis. So, of course, we've seen a lot of different ways that the attacks have come through various legislative actions. and voter initiatives. However, there is an out-of-country funded animal welfare group that is disguising themselves in the U.S. as an agency called Upstream Advocacy. And they are masquerading as an organization concerned with aquatic nuisance species, native fish species, and general aquatic well-being. Of course, as anglers, we're all very concerned with this. But the parent company is one of the largest animal welfare anti-fishing groups around, and they're out of the U.K. And what they're attempting to do in New York, New Hampshire, and Colorado now is to outlaw the imports of live bait fish, which would essentially outlaw live minnow sales, period, in Colorado. And this particular effort is being done through what's known as a citizen's petition to the CPW Commission. And they are pushing this through internally with CPW and attempting to get the commission to then vote on something like this, circumventing the process of a voter initiative. Now, this is certainly concerning. It's going to be going through an internal review with either an acceptance or they potentially could still not accept it as the commission, but the internal biologists will have a recommendation on this. And the sounds of it is that the recommendation is going to be a no from the various biologists. But that's not the concern we have. The commission, who is appointed by the governor, has really historically voted only with CPW internal recommendations, maybe about 75% of the time right now. And there's a bunch of animal welfare activists that are on the commission right now, And the big thing I'm trying to do, we don't know when this is going to be heard. It sounds like it may be later in the year. But I'm wanting to make everyone aware of what's going on. And certainly if you're interested in this, contact me at the store or certainly just email the commission as well. They are asking for public input still on this. And ideally what we're looking for is to eliminate this before it even goes to a vote. But we'll see what happens. But this is just one of those things where it's another attack here that I'm concerned with similar to 127, where you start with minnows and then all of a sudden go through a variety of other things. And this organization is also concerning for the fact that they were able to get several fly fishing guide services and shops to sign on to this. of which who've now all pulled their names after they found out who the funding is through. So it is another one of those pull the wool over your eyes type of deal.
SPEAKER 05 :
So there were some actual folks in shops that signed on to it initially?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, several guide services and several fly shops signed on to this. And After I discussed with them what was going on, they were going around the fly fishing show and the Sportsman's Expo talking to these groups. And what they were saying is that they're trying to keep live minnows out of the ecosystems that they guide with. And at the surface, that sounds very good. We don't want to have invasive species and new species introduced to our waterways. But the thing that they neglected to mention is that live minnows are already illegal to fish with above 7,000 feet in elevation. and illegal on the entire western slope of Colorado. So all of our trout waters that they were concerned with protecting already are already protected by having the current laws already set in place.
SPEAKER 05 :
Austin Parr is our guest. It's Discount Fishing Tackle. As I mentioned, they're located at 2645 South Santa Fe. So, Austin, let's do this. And just know, man, and I think you know this, but you've always got an open line here on this show. So as you see things, as you hear things, you know, you just let me know, man, and we'll circle the wagons on this, so to speak, and try to keep everybody informed of what's going on.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, you know, we always talk about how to contact me, but anybody who needs any additional information with this, I'm sending out emails out of my personal email, thewalleye93 at gmail.com. Feel free to shoot me a message on that. I can forward you all the information that we're looking at, as well as the commissioner's contact information, where we can voice our displeasure as another thing against the hunting and fishing community, of which I'm preaching this. But I think all of us really need to unite with this a lot more. We need to be having fly fishermen, conventional fishermen, Archery guys, upland guys, waterfowl guys, rifle guys, everybody involved all need to be concerned with all of it. It's not just one thing where, you know, you're concerned with your pheasant hunting and concerned with your fly fishing. Everything is interconnected right now, and we are continually on the attack. And somewhat a side note, but upon talking with one of our allies on the commission, his name's Murphy Robinson, he was mentioning that in the next year and a half, he was unable to comment on what exactly we would be seeing but he said he was concerned with what he was hearing um from what the commission may be forced to hear so there's some things uh that we all might want to be paying attention to and i'm not even sure 100 what those are yet but uh things coming
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I have spoken with him down at the Sportsman's Day at the Capitol a few weeks back, and he has agreed to come on as a guest, too. So we will certainly be hopefully getting him on as often as we can as well. All right, so what's happening at the store, man? Tell us what's going on. Any new products you want to talk about?
SPEAKER 10 :
We're getting to a point right now where our summertime bite is really getting going. So I'm fully stocked up on a whole host of those type of things. But if you're a warm water angler to start with, as well as trout, but warm water right now, our walleye bites and bass bites are really starting to heat up at Chatfield, a little bit less so at Cherry Creek, but also at Pueblo and down to the southeast. So right now we're seeing a really heavy bait bite in a lot of those places, which is definitely indicative of the time of year. And walleyes are very keyed in on a lot of aquatic insects right now, especially the chironomids. And when that happens, your leeches and crawlers are going to be really good, and that's always a good thing around Memorial Day here. So we're going to be really stocked up on that, as well as the various terminal tackle to be utilized with those type of things. And then, you know, we've had some great mountain trout bites, particularly up at Antero right now, seeing a lot of the same coronamids hatching up there, and the fly anglers are having good success there. But the conventional guys are also having great success on Tasmanian Devils, of which I have the best selection in the entire region, basically every color of those, as well as working tube jigs a lot faster throughout the water column. And my favorites are some of the two and a half inch get fits, and we can definitely get you set up on all of those right now too.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. You know, you mentioned Memorial Day, and I think about families that want to get out and fish, and some people have both, some people don't. Let's approach that both ways. For folks that may want to get out with some kids and do some fishing from shore, what are a few tips or things or places that you could recommend?
SPEAKER 10 :
As we're starting to warm up here, we are seeing some decent warm water bites. So your local ponds with your bluegills and green sunfish are always a good bet for young kids. I like approaching those with just a basic weighted float with hanging a small piece of crawler down below. It's about as simple as you can get, but very effective when it comes to those panfish. But another one that's a pretty good one, whether you're in a boat or you're on the shore, if you're looking to get away a little bit, southeastern Colorado has been fishing very well right now. John Martin and Adobe Creek Reservoirs are ones that I'm Steering quite a few folks, too, that are a little further away, you're going to see a lot less pressure. And whether you're a seasoned angler or looking to get someone into the sport of fishing, the crappie bite has been pretty off the chart down there. They're starting to spawn, so you're finding most of those fish in pretty shallow water, in five, six, seven feet of water. And when those fish are up spawning, I mean, it's very easy to catch those. Everything from a little swim bait and a roadrunner jig to to a small little number four number five flicker shad you can have awesome success with that as well as going to john martin the walleye and saw guy bite has been really turning on those lakes are a little further south obviously than our metro bodies water so we're seeing really good warmer water conditions and those saw guys are loaded up on the points on the north side of that lake and fishing them in a variety of ways from anything from a stand-up jig and a crawler or a leech, which is what I've been doing at Chatfield a lot. That's been very successful. But also using swim baits like a walleye assassin or a kite tech, swim, just swim, just right up above the bottom. Those guys are a very good bet. And then blade baits also are going to be a good multi-species producer where you can pick up your crappies, your saw guys, as well as your stray white bass and wipers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. Okay. Any other reports around that you want to talk about?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, going up into the mountains right now, this is a good time of year as a fly angler to hit. Unfortunately, we're a little lighter on snowpack than I'd like to see. So our rivers that would normally be blown out are fishing very well right now, which may be something to take advantage of earlier rather than later. We might be seeing some low water conditions that are harmful for the fish later on. But right now, we're doing great. Arkansas river is flowing at about 800 down toward that Canyon city area, still flowing clear. And the fishing has been spectacular down there. A lot of good reports of some small streamers like woolly buggers and leeches, but there's also been a lot of caddis and betas around. So nymphing those subsurface until you get a hatch later in the day has been super productive. And a couple of my guys from the shop have had really good days. I mean, 50, 60 fish days per person down there. And so that's,
SPEAKER 05 :
fishing well and the same kind of thing goes on a lot of our freestone rivers up on uh you know the colorado and the roaring fork have been seeing some higher flows but not flows that are impeding good fishing all right so how much do you switch from like spring to summer and some of your different techniques and if you take some of the local things you fish a lot cherry creek and chatfield things like that um yeah different strategies so to speak
SPEAKER 10 :
So as far as this time of time frame, we're starting to move into what I would be considering the summertime pattern. And from the earlier part in the post-spawn earlier spring, that is a time when you're doing more trolling in some of the deeper basin areas. Right now is where I'm moving much shallower. Your active fish are all going to be in under 15 feet of water, and most times I've been finding fish in under 10 feet of water here for this whole last week so that's been super super good so that uh you're finding fish on my side imaging and then fishing to them with stand-up jigs and crawlers as well as leeches my favorite ones are the the nor are the fintech knuckleball jigs and i'm pitching them out and just barely creeping them along the bottom and i'm really actively targeting good schools of fish um in the shallow water areas it's a little bit harder to pull bottom bouncers with with uh crawler harness style rigs and you can certainly get some fish on those but all my active fish have been much shallower so my long-winded answer is that i'm going much shallower and then doing more casting pitching my jigs and and pitching the bait but as we continue to get warmer that bite will continue to switch from the live bait into more of a reactionary fish based type uh presentation so the swim baits and the blade baits will be really good but many times you need your young of the year uh small bait fish to start hatching whether that be crappies or bluegill or shad having more of your natural targets in the the fishery will provide you with a lot more action rather than those fish now targeting in on some of the small insects where the leeches and the crawlers are going to do a lot better. But you're going to do better on those secondary swim bait and blade bait presentation as we move into the middle part of June.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Austin Parr is our guest once again. At Discount Fishing Tackle is the store, your one-stop shop for everything you need. I promise you that. It is 2645 South Santa Fe. And as Austin mentioned to staff there, hey, I usually call it infield experience. But on the water experience, you won't find any guys better than there at Discount Fishing Tackle that will help you. And they're always willing to help you and give you advice and help your fishing trips be more successful. So as far as on the water, I'm trying to get my thoughts here on boats and all. You know, safety is a big thing. Every year it seems like we see some big tragedies. A few tips for people that are maybe just now starting to get boats out on the water, especially in the weekend, a lot of people with boats. What are a few things that it seems like you see every year just to remind people of safety?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, especially when it comes to the smaller personal watercraft type options, whether it be a kayak or a paddleboard or a belly boat. I mean, the obvious answer is definitely life jackets at this point. Looking to have your life jacket on board and be wearing it is a very important thing. A lot of the deaths are coming from those type of crafts. But the other thing to really consider that I always talk about is making sure you're familiar with your boat that you're in and familiar with it in a variety of different weather conditions and being knowledgeable of what your current weather is going to be. You know, a day like we saw earlier in the week, like on Monday and Tuesday, where you have a lot of that wind out there. I mean, I was out on the water and it came up out of nowhere where we had good, clean, flat water early and it was forecast to do this, but then it did. And it came up with the big solid waves or my trolling motor was jumping up and cavitating out of the water and in my 21 foot lund i mean it's not a big issue but if you're in a smaller body or smaller boat on a larger body of water being able to know how to navigate those and hopefully get off the water in time is all things that i'm i'm definitely looking for and then also on a memorial day weekend here Be confident in your trailer backing and confident in your docking skills. There's going to be a lot of people out there, and there already are a lot of people out there today here. But being able to quickly get on and off is going to really limit the stress levels on the boat ramp for not only yourself but others. Memorial Day weekend here may not be the best place to go learn how to back a trailer at the ramp. Going and doing that in the parking lot is a good thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
As you said that, I've got to imagine you have seen some of the most hilarious things that you could write a book on probably just on a boat ramp.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, and patience is the key there. I mean, there's a lot of people that have a lot of experience, and there's some people that don't. So if you're boating on Metro bodies of water this weekend, go into it with the knowledge that you may be seeing those things, and just don't let it bother you, and don't let it bother your day. You know, if you're looking to get away, head on out to John Martin and Adobe Creek here this weekend. So that's going to be a lot less people out there and a lot less frustrations.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, good deal. Now, I know you were telling me before you came on air here, man, your guided fishing trips you do, you're pretty jammed up. But any kind of open times right now you might want to throw out and folks can give you a call?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, right now the majority of my openings are late summer and into the fall. So if folks are looking to learn how to tackle a lake with a lot of bait fish in it that normal presentations are going to be struggling, that's the time of year to do that. And, I mean, this time that we're fishing right now, it's fantastic. I mean, we're catching a lot of fish, but it's a lot of times where a lot of folks are catching a lot of fish. So I always love those guide trips later where we can be focusing on techniques, to make you more successful on the water throughout an entire year rather than just the peak season.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, absolutely. 303-698-2550 is the number to discount fishing tackle. Once again, they're located at 2645 South Santa Fe. When you go in, let them know you heard them here on. sportsman of colorado and we'd appreciate that as well austin i'm sorry it's been as long as i got you on but we'll do this more often and again keep us in uh in touch here on this mental issue and uh we'll do everything we can to to help with that fight for sure my friend i appreciate it well we're all in this boat together and absolutely all about having a good united front the the antis have an awesome united front and as sportsmen we need to do a better job Absolutely, we sure do. Austin Parr, thank you, buddy. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks so much, Scott. Have a great weekend.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, you as well. That's Austin Parr, Discount Fishing Tackle. Get by and see him, 2645 South Santa Fe. Once again, mention you heard him here on the show, and we'd appreciate that. We've got to take a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thank you so much for joining us. Just a quick reminder now, you miss our live show on Saturdays 1 to 2. You can catch us twice on Sundays. That's 8 a.m., 8 p.m. Then the following Thursday at 9 a.m. So hopefully one of those four times will work out for you. And if you miss that, you can catch our podcast, of course, on our website, sportsmanofcolorado.com or wherever you may listen to your podcast. All right. Hey, we are actually live from the world headquarters of the backcountry wilderness area here over in Highlands Ranch. And came over here to see our friends, Mark Giebel. And Mark's been on the show here the last few times hogging the microphone. So he wanted Lindsay to come on the show today. So Lindsay McKissick is with us. And we've got a special guest with Lindsay. Thanks for having us over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, thanks for coming.
SPEAKER 05 :
How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm good. It's about summer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, man, I'm telling you. We were just talking before we came on air. Man, this year has flown.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's flown.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I'm going to have you bring that mic to you just a little bit. There you go. But it has. Yeah, time has just really flown by. This is a busy time for you guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we kick off summer camp on Tuesday right after Memorial Day, so we'll be having 120 kids out there every single weekday morning of the whole summer.
SPEAKER 1 :
120?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, come out and play in the woods all summer.
SPEAKER 05 :
And what ages?
SPEAKER 07 :
So we do everything actually from 3 to 13 for summer camp. So 3 to 6-year-olds doing wild roots. And then our 7 to 13-year-olds doing camp backcountry, nature, art, horse, and girls of the outdoors camps.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's so cool. I don't know if we've ever really talked about how all this got started. We won't take all the time today. But any quick little history snippet you can give us here for the backcountry?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's evolved from being a small camp of a few kids out for half days in the summer all the way to now where we have, like I said, 120 kids out for full days. They're out there from eight to four, spending their days out in the woods, doing nature education, having the childhood summer we all had and miss.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
So getting them out to nature, getting their hands dirty, building forts.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, a buddy and I, we were talking the other day about when I grew up, which was a very long time ago, you know, but you would go by parks, you would be in streets, and you couldn't even drive down the street for kids out playing. You don't see that today. No. I mean, and that's a shame.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and the benefit is that we can offer that for the Highlands Ranch community and beyond. So there's still a few spots left if you want your kid to have that experience this summer.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, cool. Hey, we're going to be doing more shows here throughout the year with these folks. They've got a lot of great programs that go on. Of course, we get into the hunting area here a little bit later in the fall. But if you're not familiar with the backcountry, you need to look it up, especially if you're in Highlands Ranch, right? They do a great, great work. All right, Lindsey, we've got a special guest with us today. I'll let you introduce him and then kind of tell about the partnership.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so we've got Zach Patron here from Rocky Mountain Strength. He's one of our Backcountry Backer corporate sponsors. So he's with us, believes in the mission of our recreation, education, conservation, getting people outside so that they can turn into protectors of wild places like the Backcountry Wilderness Area. So he's here to kind of talk to us about getting fit for the hunt season, which doesn't start the day before the hunting season. Sure. No, it turns out.
SPEAKER 05 :
I walked around the block right before I went to go climb the mountain.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, good. And then some programs that he's doing specifically in the backcountry wilderness area to get hunters ready.
SPEAKER 05 :
Zach, welcome to Sportswear Colorado.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. You bet. You bet. Tell us a little bit about your background, what got you into the fitness world. Yeah, so I actually have a business degree, so that's helped with running of the business. But kind of my whole life, just, you know, grew up, born and raised in Colorado. So this is home, camping, hunting, fishing, growing up with my family, my kids. stepfather and my uncle and you know that side of the family's hunted Colorado since they were kids as well so um I think I've been super blessed and lucky to you know get involved and learn from some of the best you know hunting at a young age so that's been kind of part of just me you know in my life growing up in Colorado just loving the outdoors and then On the fitness side, you know, my dad was a big athlete and kind of had me in the gym since I was eight years old or so. And it's just been kind of a natural progression on the fitness side and became a certified trainer 10, 12 years ago now. And kind of worked through the different types of gyms and ranks and, you know, finally started. Had the chance to open up my own gym and really brand it to what I believe in and what I want to help people with, which is, you know, mountain fitness and living the Colorado lifestyle. And with that, hunting is a big part of that lifestyle. And that's something I really enjoy. Coaching is the hunting side of fitness and, you know, the programs that we have. Through backcountry wilderness area, it kind of, you know, is the cherry on top for what I'm able to do. Excited to run it each year, and it's been amazing having that opportunity with them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So what type of folks come and see you? I mean, is it more guys your age? I mean, very few my age. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, believe it or not, I wish I could say the gym was 99% hunters that are 30 years old that are there just kick ass every day. But we're a general population gym of, you know, helping a mom that wants to carry her, you know, two year old on her back for a hike in Colorado. Okay. We're here to help those people that want to ski till they're 80 years old. And then really the big part is, you know, helping those hunters that can be as prepared for the mountains as they can. But our jam, Rocky Mountain Strength, is for anybody in Colorado, anybody that just loves the mountain lifestyle, really the overall Colorado lifestyle. And a lot of that has to deal with, you know, hiking, even the backcountry trails. It doesn't have to be some crazy adventure in the mountains. We really focus on kind of prepping people for big mountain excursions, whether it's 14ers or... you know big trail runs whether it's ultra running um and then just your typical you know mom or dad that want to go on a hike with the kids and feel good and strong and you know carry their kid on their back and say yeah i'm trained for this i'm ready to roll type of thing cool yeah cool and you're over by top golf yeah yep just off of havana right over right across from top golf you could hit a ball into our Front of our business if you tried hard enough.
SPEAKER 05 :
You must not have seen me play golf. I haven't seen you out there yet. Hey, that's 6855 South Havana Street, by the way, and it's Rocky Mountain Strength. All right, so someone here has a show they want to come in. What does that initial assessment look like?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, sure. Uh, obviously coming in, we give complimentary classes, um, a couple options for kind of intros, but we, we offer small group classes and that's the main thing we do. We offer about 30 of those a week. So a full scheduled Monday through Saturday. And then we have personal training as well, which is the private side. Um, and then we are now working on actually a 2000 square foot expansion that opens in August and that's going to include recovery center. So sauna, um, Cold Plunge will have a total of four physical therapists in the facility as well, which is a big part of dealing with injuries you may, you know, occur in the mountains or just everyday life as well. So we keep it really simple of coming in and checking out the facility, you know, trying to make you as comfortable as possible. And we want it to be a safe space as well where, you know, any age, any gender, you know, come on in and we're going to make it a place for you. And that's also really important to us as well is we want anybody and everybody to come in and also see a little bit more of, you know, things you can do in the mountains that maybe weren't Thought you weren't capable of. And that's exciting for us as well as, you know, I want to help a hunter go get a big six by six bowl. But at the same time, I want to help somebody take their first steps on a trail for a simple hike and and to enjoy what Colorado has to offer. And I think that's what's so unique about Rocky Mountain strength is we're not just a gym. We are a culture and a brand of you come in to work out, but we're not there to just get stronger in the gym. It's for actual use outside in the Colorado mountains, preferably. So it's been really fun, and we just really stay authentic with what we know and what we do.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. You know, it's proven, whether you're looking at weight loss, anything, doing it with a coach. Yep. about three times more successful on anything you look at, right? For sure, yep. And so talk about that a minute and kind of how do you pair up a coach with a person to try to figure out, you know, is this going to be a good fit for that person?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, one of the first things is, like you said, having a coach, whether it is a small group coach or just a private trainer, is accountability. And there's a lot of my clients that know somewhat what they're doing and can work out on their own. But they can't make it there on that time on their own. Right. And so that accountability part, I think, is one of the biggest things in fitness is staying accountable to yourself. But having that coach or that time slot that you sign up for that you can't miss. Right. Coming in, kind of pairing it, it's, you know, male, female. Do you prefer a male trainer? Do you prefer a female trainer? We have a great wide variety of different styles of trainers. You know, are you looking for something specific, like you want to get ready for a hunt? Well, that's probably going to be, you know, with me. Are you looking for more of a return activity post-injury? We have trainers for that. And then we just kind of have the general population, right, trainer of somebody that doesn't have any... big goals you could say but wants to learn how to work out how to lift kind of you know become part of a community as well and and that's what's really fun with what we have is you're not just joining a gym you're not just there to get fit is it's the community aspect and you know a lot of that obviously has to also do with the backcountry wilderness area and how we can bring people together and and show them you know what colorado is all about you know, 10 minutes from our gym, too, which is so unique. So fun.
SPEAKER 05 :
Zach Patron is with us. He's with Rocky Mountain Strength. And once again, in partnership with the Backcountry Wilderness Area, they're located at 6855 South Havana Street. So if someone wanted to come over And just kind of check things out. Is that something that you can kind of greet them and walk them around, show them what's up?
SPEAKER 11 :
Amazing studio manager that's, you know, staffed up front for the most time. Tori, she's there to walk you through, show you our facility, the small group side, the recovery room, the physical therapy. come in, sign up for a class, try one out first. We want to make sure it's a place you really want to be and enjoy. So that's important that you come in on us first and complimentary wise and see if it's a good fit for you as well. We want this to be a place that you want to be. We're not a gym that just has these memberships of reoccurring revenue where people aren't coming in. We are calling you if you're not there every two weeks. And that means a lot to us to make sure you're getting in using your membership. And so I think we have that personal touch that's a little different than maybe a big box gym where it's just thousands of members, you know, and we want a community of people that want to be with each other and you know, enjoy being with each other and at the gym. We're there to work hard, but at the same time, we're there to have a good time and enjoy the time, you know, in the process of whatever you're training for.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. You know, at the beginning of the year, everybody makes their New Year's resolutions and all, join gyms, gym memberships skyrocket. And most studies show that I've looked at, by Super Bowl Sunday, they're off. Yeah. I mean, really. And so... It's a mindset, isn't it, to just, if you just want to get healthy. And I tell people all the time, I do a few shows with doctors during our weekday show we do. And I tell them all the time, hey, now's the time to take control of your health and wellness, so to speak. Because once you get diagnosed with diabetes or, you know, something else, type 2 diabetes, whatever, then that doctor is going to be controlling your health, right, and telling you what you need to do. So now's the time just to get healthy, you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I totally agree. And it's interesting because going off of what you just said of that New Year's resolution, we're actually where you go post Super Bowl Sunday. So we don't get this crazy influx. You know, it's typically they're going to go to that big box gym, the $10 a month membership, try it out on their own for two or three months, realize. I don't have that accountability. I don't know what I'm doing in there. Then our influx comes a little bit more in that March time timeline of post, you know, realizing, oh, I need some one on one help, maybe some private help or just getting into a class with that coach, that certified coach that's there to help a group of us, but still giving me that one on one attention as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because there are some people that like that class scene. Other people don't. Right. For sure. And that's what you kind of can tailor to fit everybody's need and what they like. Exactly.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, half my half my personal training clients don't want to go take a class. They just want that two or three times a week, one on one with me. The other half will train with me once or twice a week and then go and take two or three classes at the same time as well. So. It's kind of a mix of what you really prefer and also your schedule, you know, with how busy everybody is, like what you can fit in, when you can fit it in. To tell you the truth, I think everybody can find an hour to work out in the day no matter what, whether you have two kids, whether you're older, whether you're younger, you know. there's time and there's a way to take care of your health and fitness. And it's not even, you know, just about the physical part, but the mental aspect of what working out does for you is beyond, you know, the main reason why I work out to feel good or look good. It's that mental aspect. And I think in society that's what's missing is moving your body to then help, you know, that mental side more than anything.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is there a better time to set aside that time in the day? I mean, do you like – Some people like to be there 5 o'clock when a gym opens, you know, or 6 o'clock when a gym opens. Others like to go, I've seen, after work. And some people do it on a lunch hour. I mean. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is there a better time to work out? You know, it's really what works for your schedule, right? What you're going to do, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Like me personally, after I've had some calories in my day, some caffeine, I want to work out at 2 or 3, 4 p.m. if possible. You know, like that's the best time for me to get the most out of my workout. But I'm also at the gym all day, so I can find those times midday where if you have your 9 to 5 or, you know, you're an entrepreneur, have your own business, I think you just need to find that time that you can – can work out and get it in it's it's not about when you feel your best it's you know being accountable to yourself and and just finding that time to do it 45 minutes half the time scott i get a 30 minute workout right that that was i just wrote down yeah time of workout that quick i wanted to ask you that because some people think i can't go for two hours you don't need to do two i prefer 6 30 minute to 45 minute workouts a week for myself rather than three hour and a half, you know, type of workouts. Like make it quick, efficient, effective. Our classes are 45 minutes to 50 minutes total, including a dynamic warmup, the actual workout and a cool down. So you're getting all that in with instruction in 45 minutes walking out the door. wow and so i would rather have you come and doing you know four five days of those than three days of 90 minutes you know on your phone in between sets that type of thing just efficiency being effective um you know today i have an hour on my day um i'm gonna go and i'm gonna push the sled back you know up and down the turf carry some heavy weight keep it simple you know keep it effective And in 30 minutes, you know, I just trained for an elk hunt for myself personally. Right. And feel good about it and feel strong and, you know, did it in a safe manner where my body still feels good. I don't need to be max back squatting. You know, I don't need to do a lot of these max weight, max effort exercises. I need sustainability and I need to also keep fit. you know, maintenance to what, what I want to do personally, which most of the time for what we train for at our gym is, you know, maintenance and keeping strength for that continual year long of activity, right? We're not there to max out bench press, max out your back squat or deadlift, you know, There's times in the winter when we have a winter strength series that we are pushing heavier weights, but everything we do is trained around the season at our gym. So it's winter strength, then you go into more of a spring endurance, summer sprint, and then the fall rebuild. So we phase everything off of how we're using our body in Colorado within our programs as well.
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Right. Again, if you're just joining us, Zach Patron is with us. We are at the Backcountry Wilderness Area headquarters here in Highlands Ranch. His gym is Rocky Mountain Strength, 6855 South Havana Street. And, hey, when you go in, let them know you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado. We'd appreciate that. And you can ask for Zach, and I'm sure he'd be glad to show you around. All right, let's talk about memberships and what different types of memberships you have.
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Sure, yeah. So we have small group memberships, and that's going to get you some small group classes. It could be a consultation with our physical therapist, recovery room options, open gym options. Those small group memberships vary from like an unlimited membership comes six days a week and small group classes come during open gym times if you want to do your own thing. use our physical therapists, get those consultations, see where you're at, you know, biomarker wise. And then you got like a 12 times a month, which would be like three times a week. And then your eight times a month, twice a week. So it's what fits in your schedule. Or if you enjoy being in the gym twice a week and trail running four days a week, how you can make that work. Every single person, no matter what, I don't care who you are in this world needs the strength train consistently. Um, does it have to be your, your, your main thing three, four times a week? No, but at least twice a week, everybody needs to be lifting weights. I mean, there's so many different reasons why, right? Women for the osteo wise, I mean, you know, people for the mental health wise, but strength training, you know, is what keeps me doing what I want to do as well in the mountains. So, um, We focus on four or five different classes at our gym. Small group classes, our main one is called Mountain Fit, right? So we train strength, balance, stability, endurance. That's kind of our flagship of a class that's unique to any other gym. And then we have strength class focusing on just lifting, push days, pull days, full body days. A conditioning class, which is just like it sounds, higher heart rate, metabolic training. It changes throughout, you know, winter session. We might be doing a lot more zone two, consistent fat burn. We're now in summer. We're on those treadmills doing 10 second sprint intervals, that type of thing. Just like you would be if you're out and, you know, outdoors now moving a little bit faster. And then our last class is a HIIT class, which kind of... you know, intermediate, uh, hit high intensity interval training stuff. So that's going to be a little bit more of a higher heart rate. So, um, we are a strength and conditioning gym first and foremost, and everything we do is based off of strength. Second part conditioning. Right. And what are the hours that you're open? Yeah. Typically that our gym, depending on class times is open from 5.00 AM till six to 7.00 PM at night. Okay. So you're All day long, you have to.
SPEAKER 05 :
No excuse. No excuse.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's what I'm saying. You know, you have to have, we use an app. You have to go book your own class time and or you're booking your trainer. So we are a private gym in the sense of it's not just a come in and come out gym. You have to have specific times. that you are booked, you know, and that's for safety. And it's also for, you know, the attention that we want to make sure everybody's getting. And, you know, as much as we want, as many members as we can get, we want, you know, a safe space. We want a place that's available and big enough for everybody to utilize. And we are a private gym in the sense of, you know, there's only so many people in that gym per hour. And that helps us, you know, foster the type of community we want and really just focus on each individual that comes in there sure so is it have you seen more success with people that work with a personal trainer and you know that's just their program then doing it on their own even in your gym it's a great question typically you can't go wrong with having a personal trainer you know those are tailored exactly to you exactly your goals You know, there's a day you didn't get great sleep because you have young kids. Well, you know, we're going to take your session back a little bit and keep your heart rate a little bit lower, that type of thing, right? Now, it's kind of an interesting question because then we have people that come, you know, four or five days a week consistently in small group classes, you know, really focus on the program, whether it is trying to increase strength or staying in the zone two for a long run. And they see great results too, but consistency is the biggest thing on both sides of whether with your trainer or with your small group classes. So I think you can see great results on both. Typically with a trainer, I think it's quicker results just because it is fine-tuned to just you. but we program our small group classes just like we would you know for a client in the sense of hitting all muscle groups and hitting you know the balance and stability and conditioning aspects that anybody you know as a human being should be working on do you get people in there that haven't been to a gym in a long time or are there a lot of gym rats what we know as people that are already in really good shape and you kind of look at them and say why are you here yeah both um you know both and that's that's what's cool is is our classes right you can be a you know a 21 year old you know first time person in the gym or a 50 year old that's you know been in the gym and knows what we're doing you know working out next to each other in the class you choosing your own weight you're choosing your own pace right so every class is tailored to you specifically in this in this sense of you know you're going at your pace you're You're going at your level of fitness at that time. And that's what's really cool is we have a wide variety of people in these classes. And really, people come for the community as well. So even a lot of these people that know what they're doing, they just love being part of, you know, rocking on strength. And our coaches and our community is, you know, first and foremost, I think, one of the coolest things we have.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Now on the hunting side, last few minutes here, but on the hunting side – You've got a program designed really for hunting. Correct. So kind of walk us through maybe what that looks like.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. So it's pretty much a nine-month program, right? Hunting season, we're really not doing much. That's what we train for. That's the Super Bowl of our year. Sure. So starting in January through March, we have just back country hunting, strength and conditioning. And that's not with the wilderness area, but that's just at our gym where we're building that foundation post hunting season, you know, kind of rebuilding, finding those imbalances, building that foundational strength. And then from there, we kind of start working into some outdoor activities, whether it's a couple of one-off sessions at the archery range where we're just kind of getting people together, getting that hunting community back together, shooting our bows a little bit. But really, you know, our biggest event of the year is with the Backcountry Wilderness Area, and that is our six-week bowhunter training camp. We've ran it, I think, for two years now. I think this is our third year. It's grown substantially every year. I think this is going to be our next biggest year, which is exciting. This is a six-week program. This year, I think it's going to be Tuesdays starting at 6 p.m. Last two weeks of July, all the way through August, we lead right up into the opener of archery season. Okay, so the last two weeks of July is when it starts. Yep, yep. And it's a six-week program, 90-minute sessions. During that 90 minutes, I have a certified archery coach on the shooting side. I'm the strength and conditioning coach. So we kind of have different blocks of strength and conditioning out there in the fields at the archery range, which is super fun. So endurance runs, tire flips, heavy carries, weighted step-ups. things that you're going to see, you know, while you're hiking up in the high country. And then you're then going over and shooting your bow with packs on, maybe it's an elevated heart rate, working techniques, controlling your heart rate. I mean, as you know, Scott, like when you get that animal in front of you, you know, it's a whole different deal. And so what can we do at least kind of get you into that feeling in that situation. So when you get to that point of a high heart rate, you can steady your bow, you know, maybe you can steady your rifle a little bit. That's not the surprise, you know, point of, of that hunt is a high heart rate. Now I have to see what I can do with it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. Cool. All right, Lindsay, how do people sign up? How they, get registered for this?
SPEAKER 07 :
So actually you do it through Zach. So everything is done through Rocky Mountain Strength. He gets all the registration.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wrangled.
SPEAKER 11 :
And the cost? I think cost this year is $350. Okay. And that includes six 90 minute sessions. Wow. Swag bags, things like that. Really kind of some open range time, you know, when I'm out there as well. So just fine tuning shooting skills with that too. all right that's cool yeah and male female than anybody you know i think last year we had five females and we're trying to really push that you know more than anything right now is more these female bow hunters and um it's been really cool seeing a lot more females out there doing this and man i'm telling you what the female community over these last few years has really shown up a lot of different events and done really well i mean they shoot well they you know they're in shape yeah stronger than most of the men out there yeah yeah
SPEAKER 12 :
No doubt.
SPEAKER 07 :
Also, I was going to say that our archery range season passes are on sale now. So if you're getting ready to go to Zach's program at the end of July and want to get out on the 3D range, get to our static range, come check things out. You can go to any HRCA recreation center and get a season pass now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And you've got your, I'll let you explain the range.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so we have a range off Ron King Trail in Santa Fe, 6005 Ron King Trail. It has a 3D range and a static range that you can go out and practice, get your reps in. And it's also just a beautiful place to go out and shoot archery. Sunup to sundown, 365 days a year.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, cool. Well, Zach, thanks, man. Thank you, Scott. I appreciate it. It's been great. Hey, maybe I can do a picture for you, that before the workout picture. I can be that picture, okay? We'll see. Love that. We've got to get you there. All right, Lindsay, thanks for setting this up for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you bet.
SPEAKER 05 :
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So getting over to the word of the day, I read an interesting article that hopefully we'll get to discuss here in a couple minutes by Dr. Tom Cranwitter on his sub-stack, Zetetic Questions, talking about citizenship. spurred this word of the day so the word of the day is praxis p-r-a-x-i-s it's a noun and it's practice as distinguished from political theory so It's how is that theory actually put into effect? How is it practiced as opposed to just theoretically what it should be? So obviously, this idea of birthright citizenship has come up thanks to President Trump's executive order, and it's probably going to get better. It's going to be heard at the Supreme Court. But this article really critiques the praxis of birthright citizenship. So how the ideal of equal protection has translated into a modern legal application. So, again, hopefully we'll be discussing it here in a couple of minutes. But. Also wanted to set up some of our featured guests today. First hour here, we'll be talking with State Senator Kevin Lundberg about his Lundberg report for most all of the hour. Wanted to dive a little bit into Colorado's tangle of red tape. So, ironically, there's a thought from nearly 2,000 years ago that can still hit home today. Luckily, human nature doesn't change too much, but... Wanted to read a quote by Tacitus. So Tacitus was a Roman senator, a historian, and really one of the sharpest minds of the ancient world. So he chronicled the rise and decay of empires and really saw firsthand how governments mask decay with laws and decrees. And again, may have been 2,000 years ago, but he did warn, the more corrupt the state, the more it legislates. And as we'll be going over with Kevin Lundberg, just something to keep in mind. The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates. There's a lot of different reasons for that. But just here in Colorado, this last session, the last count I had, I mean, once you get up in the 700s, it gets difficult to keep track. But approximately 733 bills passed. which was a slight increase from last session, with over 486 enacted into law, which is just mind-boggling how we as citizens can even keep up with that many new laws going into effect. Some of them recently, some of them go into law pretty quickly, some of them they allow you to wait until a future date. Still A ridiculous number to keep track of. And how do we, the citizens, even keep track of that, right? How do you keep track of what you can and cannot do when each year hundreds of laws are going into effect? So something that did happen on Friday, something good that Governor Polis did, he did veto the rideshare bill. So he did... I cite vague language, fear of losing companies. We challenge Governor Polis that there are quite a few bills that have vague language that he should have used the veto pen on more often. But that was something good that happened on Friday. Something... Something small, but something we can at least chalk up as a win for those of us that are keeping track of things. But I did want to come back over to this article by Dr. Tom Cranawitter. It was an article that got me thinking, and I wanted to pass that along. Again, you can find it on his sub-stack, Zetetic Questions, Z-E-T-E-T-I-C Questions. And he really challenges this idea of what it means to be a citizen in the U.S. and why we should just automatically get to be citizens. So it's time for us to clarify, and he proposes a constitutional amendment to precisely outline what is required and who should be invited to be citizens of the U.S., And it's very interesting because he goes over the idea that Madison has that a compact is the essence of a free society. In other words, a compact is an agreement. And for an agreement to be mutual, voluntary, and morally legitimate, it requires consent. And so therefore, he kind of restates that dictum without violating its spirit. Consent is the essence of free society. And in freedom thinkers, that's a pretty easy idea to wrap your wrap your brain around. Right. We want the freedom of choice. And, you know, again, we think back to the Declaration of Independence, where it has the line that to secure these rights, these unalienable rights that we have as human beings, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. And so that leads to kind of three questions that pretty obvious questions that American American citizens should ask is when did I agree to accept the duties and responsibilities of being a U.S. citizen? When did anyone invite me to be a citizen? And when was I offered a choice? And when did I respond in the affirmative? And he points out you're kind of struck with those are pretty obvious questions, but there are no obvious answers to those very obvious questions. And so it kind of challenges this idea that political legitimacy requires consent. So how did we currently consent to being a citizen? And so the interesting thing is this dispute being considered in front of the Supreme Court There's two issues to it, right? Obviously, the first is, how can a federal judge have the power to block an executive order government agency, right? But we'll ignore that one for now, because that's a... When you look at the Constitution, it's a little disturbing that one branch could try and assume that much power. But the other one is President Trump ending birthright citizenship, basically giving citizenship to anybody born in the U.S., regardless of the legal status of the parents. Right. And of course, you know, we've all thought about many of these, but it was interesting how he pulled in the history of birthright citizenship. And how that was actually underlying the king's law, British law at the time of the American Revolution. It's really a medieval, theocratic, divine right monarchy type idea that you were born into this world. you are born into this sovereign land, so therefore you are a citizen of that land. And the interesting thing he points out is that the Americans were actually rejecting the entire principle of birthright citizenship and its political corollary, lifetime allegiance. When they said, hey, we're going to make our own nation, they were saying, we no longer want to be British citizens. We reject this idea that we have to have an entire lifetime of allegiance to this government. So it's very interesting when you look at the arguments that the left is making that this modern idea of birthright citizenship is in fact rooted in the medieval monarchical concept of birthright citizenship. And again, goes back to this idea that Madison has that an agreement requires consent, not implied or tacit or assumed consent, but clear, articulate consent. And therefore... Dr. Cranwitter proposed that we the people should adopt an amendment that clarifies these supreme civic questions of citizenship. Again, noting that the 14th Amendment was not particularly well written. And so maybe we should make it a little bit more specific. And so he proposes that Anybody born within the U.S. who are U.S. citizens should enjoy basic protections as children. And then once they become legally emancipated as adults, they should be asked to take an oath of citizenship. Clear statement of the civic rights and many duties that comes with being a self-governing, responsible, productive, self-reliant citizen. Or choose not to become a U.S. citizen. And that no shrugs or nods. It has to be a yes or a no. And the same question should be asked to those born on foreign soil, to parents who are U.S. citizens traveling abroad. Again, citizenship should not just be automatic. He says you should... ask people to be active and engaged citizens in the U.S. And he also wanted to make it very clear, choosing not to become a citizen doesn't mean you just have to leave the U.S. Perhaps we should offer the equivalent of being a lawful permanent resident. But the important part is an individual who chooses not to become a U.S. citizen should not be able to vote, should not be on juries, won't hold any office in government, and certainly shouldn't qualify for the benefits and subsidies funded by the U.S. taxpayers. So the second part of that amendment is saying, hey, if you were born here, if you just got lucky or your parents aren't U.S. citizens and you were born on the U.S., you don't just get to luck into it. You're welcome to naturalize into it. You're. You're welcome to go that route. But again, it's this idea of a compact. You should be invited by we, the people to become a citizen. And all those who accept the offer will have clearly and affirmatively consented to become a citizen. So a good way to, again, just a way to think about this idea differently. I was really challenged by this article. So again, you can find that article online, but again, Really appreciated the thought that went into it and this idea that, hey, maybe we should clarify. We, the people, should propose an amendment to clarify what citizenship is as opposed to having bureaucracies or presidents or politicians debate over this idea. We, the people, should propose how to make it permanent. 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Well, Alan, thanks. Glad to be with you. Kind of filling in for Kim's absence for a little while, but glad to be a part of the program.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it's always great getting to visit grandkids, right? I don't have any of myself, but I know their grandparents sure enjoy taking care of my kids.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I've got a few, and yeah, that takes our attention.
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which is actually probably a good lead-in to you have a Kevin Lundberg report that comes out periodically. And number one on the list this week is Protect Kids Colorado is busy and at work right now. So how about you give us an update on that?
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Well, yeah, and actually I'm also chairman of the board for Protect Kids Colorado, so I keep a very close eye on what we're doing. But this really impacts everybody in the state in a lot of ways. We started last year as an effort to put a couple of initiatives on the ballot, which we weren't quite successful with. But tell you what, we realized that we have an untapped resource in this state, and that's citizens of this state who can step up and make a difference together. And so we're going back at it this year. We are actually working with some other efforts to really find that critical mass to put something on the ballot that deals with the transgender issues and related areas that protect kids. that stand up and say, in Colorado, we are not going to play the game that compromises the safety and really the integrity of childhood, if you will. And so much is happening in our public schools today that promotes this transgender ideology. So here's what... Last week was pretty busy for PKC, and that is... First, we were a party to a lawsuit that was filed Monday of last week challenging the constitutionality of House Bill 1312. And that's the bill that really threatens the custody of parents if they refuse to affirm the transgender dysphoria that their child may have. But it also silences everybody because it makes it illegal to use a legal name for somebody if they have a chosen name that's different. That becomes part of the anti-discrimination laws now, has become, because the governor signed it. And that's really what PKC is suing over, is we can't really engage in our principal mission If we can't use legitimate legal names for people who have gone down the road to, you know, think they're somebody that they're not, essentially. So we're joining some other groups that are, there's a legal firm out in the D.C. area that's looked at this and said, this shouldn't be, we need to challenge this. And so Protect Kids Colorado became one of the, plaintiffs on the suit. That was Monday. And then on Wednesday, we were down at the title board and got a couple of our initiatives approved initially. Now, I say initially because There are those out there that don't want to see these things on the ballot, and so they'll challenge them. And they've already challenged the first one, which was banning men and women's sports in our schools. But then the two measures that we did get approved, one is more of a general one on increasing the penalty for – And engaging in child sex trafficking, and that is if you're going to buy or sell children for sexual purposes, that's as serious as a murder rap, frankly, a first-degree felony. And so we're going to be working on putting that on the ballot for this bill. Understand that initiatives are only engaged in in general elections every other year. And then the other one is banning all these child mutilation surgeries for transgender nonsense. um and anyway we got the approval initially we expect some legal challenges down the road but we we fully expect to have some petitions in our hand uh sometime later in the summer and we will hit the ground running but we'll only do it if everybody joins us but that's what we're doing right now is we're recruiting people to be a part of this effort and to carry petitions. And you may say, well, I'll wait until you get the petitions. No, now's the time we're organizing. And so I encourage anybody to go to protectkidscolorado.org and get more information and hopefully join us and donate to the cause and help us push down the road. But then there's another issue that came up last week, and that is key to what we've been doing has been the Lee family, John and Aaron Lee, who were highlighted in the film that I put together called Art Club. And they've been suing the Poudre School District in federal court. to stop them from doing what they did to their daughter. And if you want to know more about that, go to artclubmovie.com and watch the film.
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Yeah, you do a good job of plugging the links there.
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Well, and here's the thing. They've moved through the process, so the next step is to appeal to the Supreme Court. the United States Supreme Court, which this case really is being set up as a test case that might be the one that really underscores because the lower courts have said well no parents really don't have a say when schools want to get involved in this this is what the suit's all about is is to to say to to demand that the school district stop engaging in this transgender grooming processes that that they fully endorse and and i have doubled down on uh since uh the lee case became uh well known um And, you know, they're intent on forcing this down the, you know, on the kids that are in their schools. And unfortunately, the legal structure just isn't, can't handle this. So it needs to be looked at by the Supreme Court. And they really need to sit down and say, no, parents should, at the absolute minimum, be told everything that happens to their children. And none of this should be withheld from them, but that's what they're doing in the schools. So we're kind of excited about the fact that this is seriously being done. And the actual story was the leaves need to pay for all the printing costs and the like. And so we helped them launch a, well, just encouraged them, frankly, to launch a give, send, go program. and so they're raising funds to make it to the Supreme Court and to appeal to the court. You know, it takes $10,000 to just print the material that you hand to the court to say we'd like you to consider our case. Wow. I learn something every day. Yeah, it's a pretty high bar.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. And I noticed, too, in your report, pretty cool, the attorney is actually doing a lot of pro bono work on this as well. Oh, yeah. A lot of costs go towards paying attorneys, but even then, a really expensive process, even if the attorney's doing pro bono work.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, and they have expenses that need to be covered. that are out of pockets, and so that's a part of the situation, too. But there's an interesting story on the attorneys, because the attorney who actually took this on initially to say, yes, we will go after this, was with first, let's see, America First Policy Institute, looked at this and said, this is a case that we think ought to go before the courts and get proved up. Now, that original attorney is no longer on the case. unfortunately. Well, maybe fortunately, because her name is Pam Bondi, and she's the Attorney General for the United States now, so she can't take this case on personal, or, you know, through the American First Policy Institute, but the organization is still solidly behind it and working hard, and, you know, they're preparing the documents that need to be printed, and now we just need to pay for it, so... it's it was a busy week for pkc and and it it just you know there are so many things to be done and let me say this one final thing i know we've got to go to break really quick here but but the this is not just about as important as this is this is not just about the transgender issue on the ballot this is about changing the conversation of for the people of colorado when they go to vote next year because this is an A prime example of what the current legislature and governor has been shoving down the throats of the citizens of Colorado. And people need to face up to the reality that we need a significant change in our legislature. And I honestly believe that these initiatives, if we can get these on the ballot, will change. possibly be the, you know, the lynchpin for changing the political environment in this state.
SPEAKER 14 :
And like many efforts, it requires a lot of time, a lot of effort, and a lot of the treasure that people have worked hard to get. So make sure and head on over to protectkidscolorado.org. There you can sign up to volunteer if you want to get actively involved in this. But if you don't have the time, don't have the ability to go out there and collect signatures for these initiatives, make sure and donate. I'm sure the donate link is pretty obvious there, Kevin Lundberg. But make sure you go to Protect Kids Colorado and visit that site. The website works. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that's kind of our central point, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And also, like you said, I just want to highlight as well, for John and Aaron Lee, Head on over to GiveSendGo.com. You can look up Lee. I believe it's V. Poudre, right? You should be able to look up the Lees in the Poudre district and find it.
SPEAKER 10 :
If you just go to my website and click on the latest Lundberg report, I've got a link right there. The link actually says, please consider what you can do for this family. Just click on that and you're there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Click on that link, help out a family that's just trying to help other families watch out for their children as well. So we're excited to keep Kevin Lumberg on the line here, and we'll come back and talk about more happenings in the state. But we also want to say thank you to our longtime sponsor of the show, Karen Levine.
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And welcome back. This is Alan Thomas filling in for Kim Munson while she visits family. Thank you all for listening. Make sure and sign up for the weekly email newsletter where you get to see the excellent guests we have coming up, such as the guests we have on the line right now. Former state Senator Kevin Lumberg. You can always email the show at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And thank you for contributing to keep. This show independent and allow us to exercise the right of the freedom of speech. So, you know, we covered a lot of some of the madness that happened with a lot of the transgender bills and 1312 and what Protect Kids Colorado dot org is doing. But that was not all of the terrible bills that were passed. And just again, wanted to highlight the the quote of the day. coming from tacitus the more corrupt the state the more it legislates and kevin in your report this the second thing we're talking about is another piece of legislation that kind of didn't slip through unnoticed but was less controversial than 1312 but as you point out camp idra haji is fighting back on some other terrible legislation that's not named 1312.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, yeah, so much has happened to set this up. And by the way, it's called Hydra Haji. camp hydra haji they've been around for over 75 years now and i've known about them for about 50 years and then they're just a great camp in the bailey area the christian camp you know summer camp type program and and a couple of my kids who went through there and and it's just just a good good solid place i remember working with them back when i was in the senate They were having trouble because the state back then was putting some extra standards on whether parents could put their kids in the school if the parent had wanted to exempt their child from certain vaccinations. This was back in 2018, long before COVID showed up. And they were saying, you know, we need to let parents make these decisions. And the state was coming in and saying, no, you've got to have this form filled out and the parent has to jump through this hoop and trying to sort that out for them back then. Well, now with this whole transgender stuff. The, what's it called, the Department of Early Childhood or something like that, which is something that polls set up through the legislature, through previous bills that were passed in the last few years. They informed the camp that they have to, if they want to keep their license, and you've got to be licensed to be a summer camp nowadays in Colorado, that they have to allow... children with gender dysphoria, in other words, you know, these trans kids have to be allowed to be in whatever bathroom and whatever dorm room or cabin that they choose, and Camp Hydro Haji being a based on solid biblical values, said, no, no, we're going to keep the boys in the boys' rooms and the girls in the girls' rooms, and we're not going to have this madness in our camp. And so the only alternative they've got is to sue the state. And I wanted people to be aware of this, that, yeah, it goes far beyond 1312. There are so many bills, and the real push on all of this transgender ideology thing really started in 2019, the first year Polis was governor. And previous to that, for four years at least, the Republicans had control of the Senate, so bad bills didn't get out past us. But then when the Dees took over both houses and the governor's office, They just came out with a whole pile of bills that pushed all this, and now you have this nonsense like this where a Christian camp can't operate by their own values that the parents want to be there, but no, the state comes in and says, you've got to do what we're going to do. Well, Camp Hydrahaji is not going to do that. And we'll see what the courts say about all this, but I wanted people to be aware of that situation because it just... You know, it's coming at us from every direction. That's why it's a big deal to do what we're doing with Protect Kids Colorado, too.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's one of the interesting, great conflicts that our country was founded on, is that actually they want that conflict in the machinations of government. They don't want the government to operate efficiently themselves. and not have debate right and that was one of the interesting things about 1312 when it was passed we we fortuitously had max brooks on the day after 1312 was being heard in the house and they the democrats silenced debate on that they limited debate they didn't allow it to happen and like you pointed out all of this has happened because elections have consequences and when When the government is able to bypass the minority, when the minority doesn't have a voice or an ability to push back on some of this ideological policy, it doesn't serve anybody well, either side. We really should have that conflict. The government should not be efficient in passing rules and laws.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. I mean, you really hit a button I feel very deeply about, because I spent 16 years down in the legislature, in the House and the Senate, and I learned that the process is vital for every representative and every senator to be able to present their views that the people sent them down to do. And what the What they did this year in silencing debates so many times was just a gross violation of that principle. I was appalled, just appalled at how many times they would shut down debate. I saw it happen once or twice in my 16 years in the legislature, and And there, the first time, it was only after we had had three days of just back and forth on a very controversial issue. And then at the very end, and the Republicans were in charge, and the sponsor of the bill got up, and he said, and I called the question. So he shut off all debate. And then what happens is then the body is to vote, and the majority doesn't. carries it well we had a majority of republicans but there are three of us i was one of them who said no but we we didn't have enough votes to to go over it and so in fact the republicans actually shut down the final debate on on a very controversial bill and i knew that was wrong and and i'll tell you what that that set things up so that really a lot of the politics that drove the legislature the other direction came out of that one lousy vote that we held back in 2003. And now the Democrats are just doing it with impunity again and again and again. They have just corrupted the political process. Because you're quite right. It should be very, very difficult to make law. And that's one thing about a bicameral system is you've got a House and a Senate. And, you know, it's easy to kill a bill. It's really hard to get one pass if you play by the rules. And therefore, it filters out most of the dross, you might say. But they're not doing that anymore.
SPEAKER 14 :
And this is an issue that cuts through political division, this idea that the state can somehow love your kid more than you. This is something that both Republicans and Democrats can agree on. And the fact that this legislature wants to cut through the ties of parenthood is beyond disappointing it's it's scary and it's terrifying and and make sure and protect kids colorado.org to get involved with that and to pass it along to your friends and your neighbors and just say listen we we all agree that we love our kids just as much as anybody else and we love our kids more than the state does so uh On the line, we have former State Senator Kevin Lundberg. When we come back, we're going to talk a little bit about Arapahoe County and some of the voting anomalies that happened in the 2020 session. But before we do, we're going to listen a little bit to John Bosen at Bosen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. This is Alan Thomas filling in for Kim Munson today. Make sure and visit the website, kimmunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. There you can sign up for the weekly email newsletter. And also on the line with us, we have former state senator Kevin Lundberg. Make sure and visit kevinlundberg.com or just even search and Google Kevin Lundberg report. There you can sign up for that report as well. Get that to your inbox. So So far we've covered compelled speech, the idiocy of licensure laws, silencing debate, and free thought. It's not even 7 a.m., so why don't we throw some elections in the mix here, Kevin Lumberg?
SPEAKER 10 :
We've only got a few minutes left, but this is a big deal. And it's very much on the front burner. A little bit of background here. There was a researcher at Yale University who some months ago ran across a strange anomaly in the Arapahoe County cast vote records from the 2020 election. And here's what the guy did is he compared the votes ballot by ballot for the presidential race, which was Biden and Trump, and the vote on the Gallagher Amendment, which was a measure to repeal the Gallagher Amendment. And what he found was if you took the Biden votes, in other words, ballots that voted for Biden, and you tracked how they voted for or against the Gallagher Amendment, and you took the Trump votes, the ballots that have a vote for Trump, and you tracked it, that they were almost identical. They were within 1%. And this wasn't just the aggregate vote. This was as the votes were being counted in the election counting process there in Arapahoe County. And you lay the graph of the two, the Biden votes and the Trump votes, on how they voted for Gallagher, and they're identical. Well, statistically, it doesn't work that way. And if you look at another county like El Paso County, they were totally different. Because the Gallagher amendment really was people who were more conservative voted against and people who were more liberal voted for it. And that's the exact, you know, anyway, this was an anomaly that, that was just statistically impossible, but there it is. Well, this researcher passed the word along to two different people and, and it got back to the Arapahoe County clerk's office, apparently. Well, they, then last April, you know, last month, the clerk's office came out with a where the votes were all changed. And both point to severe manipulation of this legal record of what the votes were in 2020 in Arapahoe County. And we're talking about over 350,000 votes were cast that year in that county. So it wasn't just a little blip on a little screen. It was a big deal. And There are those of us who are trying to say, hey, we need to look at this because there's obvious evidence of illegal election manipulation. Illegal because you're not to manipulate the results. But obviously something happened here and something happened a couple of times. And I want to make sure that people know about it. Now, this all goes to the point that today... On the west steps of the Capitol at 2.30 in the afternoon, we're going to hold a press conference. And we have an expert, Dr. Dougherty. He is a computer scientist who actually got his doctorate at Harvard. And I know he taught at Texas A&M for many, many years down in Texas. And I think he's a professor emeritus at this point. Anyway, he's supposed to be there to explain all this and to get the conversation going. I also have this information on my website. If you go to the website, if you can't make that press conference down at the Capitol today at 2.30, you can get most of the information online. If you go to my website and go to the current newsletter and go down to the thing about Arapahoe County and click on the information, I've got two links. One is a story from Rock Mountain Voice, and the other one is the actual data that we're talking about here. I mean, not the whole cast record vote, but a discussion on it and showing the graphs and talking about how the problem is significant. And We can't just sweep this under the rug and say, oh, well, that was then. No, this is a big question is who did this and why did they do it?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's transparency, right? How can we, in a representative government, we the people need to have confidence that our vote is getting counted and counted correctly, right? It's speaking to truth and trust in the system. And, again, you know, sometimes it gets a little difficult when you're talking numbers, when you're talking statistics. But I think everybody can kind of understand the concept that when things perfectly align – But statistically and in life, I can't count the number of things that happened perfectly, right, Kevin Lundberg?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Well, and when I say that they were identical, they were within 1%. But if you look at everything, yeah, you know, they liken this, it's like flipping a coin 3,500 times so it always comes out heads. It just doesn't work that way.
SPEAKER 14 :
And especially when you have election data from other counties, right? I mean, there's a lot of ways to look at data and to infer things. But when you look across the whole rest of the state and you go, wait, why do things align so perfectly in just one county? It's things that should make you say, we need to ask the questions, we need to get to the bottom of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly, exactly. And so, yeah, I think this is a huge issue that is... that needs to be looked into. And I should mention this in these waning moments, and this is totally unrelated to this effort I'm talking about, digging into what's happening in Arapahoe County. But next week in Colorado, what may be a very important case or trial will be held in Denver in the 10th Circuit courtrooms with Mike Lindell. He's being sued for defamation of character by somebody who was in charge of some of that election equipment we're talking about. And Mike Lindell, you know, everybody knows who he is. He has been just a champion in trying to dig down to the bottom of this and he's looking forward to this court case because he said finally I'm going to have my day in court I'm going to be able to present the evidence as to why I believe we do have problems that do need to be cured So stay tuned. I think that Colorado is, even as it has become kind of the poster child for transgender stuff, is going to be the focal point for looking at our election processes and not to complain. but to fix, to cure, to find the solutions that work right. And I know the Department of Justice is concerned about these issues as well. The president, he understands what's at stake here. Anyway, a lot of things are happening, and there's going to be some very interesting information down at the Capitol today. Pray for good weather. I don't want a rainstorm in the middle of this.
SPEAKER 14 :
But regardless, the truth will go on, right? And so that's down at the Capitol at 2.30, correct?
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct, on the west steps. That's the plan, and this will be an expert flying in with the sole purpose to explain it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And again, make sure and visit KevinLundberg.com to make sure and keep up with all this. And we've got about a minute left here, Kevin. How do you want to button it all up?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, this may seem overwhelming, especially, you know, we've covered so many topics in this last hour, but people have to be engaged. This is the key to good government. Good government doesn't work when you let somebody else to do it. And if you look at our nation's founding, and you referred back to this earlier, it was a totally new concept. Instead of kings running things, it's we the people. And we the people have to get engaged and do it You know, roller sleeves up and be a part of the solution. If not, then the problems will just multiply. But I'm encouraged. I am very upbeat on what's happening here in Colorado because I do see a lot of people plugging in. And it's just a blessing to be a part of the solution.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning, Alan. Great show. A lot of stuff to cover. I had not heard about the Bongino headline. That's good to know that he's going to go back and we're going to hopefully figure out what happened with those incidences. But yeah, this morning, just very briefly, auto accident basics. We hope that we and loved ones and friends, neighbors, coworkers, no one wants to get in an accident. But, unfortunately, for some of us, it's just one of those life's curveballs that's going to get thrown at us. And what to do when it happens is important. First thing, Alan, I just want folks to know, if someone causes an accident, that you're involved in, it's very important that a determination of fault be made. And the best person to do that, the person that should do that, is an officer of the law. So first, number one, if Abel went involved in an accident, call 911, call the police, have them come out there and make a determination as to who was at fault, that the other driver was responsible for that accident. Next most important thing, If, well, it's right there at the top, really. But if someone is injured in an accident, they need to acknowledge that when the ambulance, the EMTs get there, the officer asks questions and seek and get medical attention for anything that doesn't feel right. And I've been doing this for a long time, and I've had a lot of folks tell me I thought it was okay. I felt a little something. Well, you feel a little something. You've got to get in. You've got to get checked out by a medical professional. Make sure that something more significant isn't going on that could literally be life-threatening. And then I'll jump right to the last one here. Call me. Call Bozen Law so that you can get the advice. That can make all the difference early on in a motor vehicle collision claim. Folks don't know what they don't know, and it can definitely affect in a very negative way what happens with regard to any kind of a claim. They have insurance companies have a lot of information that they will not necessarily understand. used for the benefit of the accident victims. So I want to talk with folks before they talk to the other driver's insurance company and the number to call to do that is 303-999-9999. The call, the consultation, there's no obligation, there's no fee and the advice that the individual will get will be very valuable.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and that's great information, and I just encourage everyone to save that number in your phone already. You know, when you talk about being prepared before it happens, right? It's good to think through these things that way. When it happens, there's a lot of emotions involved, so just think through these things before it even happens the first time.
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Yeah, I tell folks all the time, I'd rather you know me and not need me than need me and not know me. So put that number in the phone, call it, don't hesitate. And hopefully you never need to call it.
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Hopefully, you know, and you know, I know one of the other sponsors of the show we'll, we'll get to with Roger Mangan, but I just also wanted to highlight, you know, I'm involved in the insurance business as well. State minimums for property liability are not adequate whatsoever. And then also making sure that you have uninsured underinsured because you know, if somebody hits you and, and they're not properly covered and you're not, uh, That just isn't a recipe for a good day, is it?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, and Alan, you must have heard us talk about this. There's more uninsured drivers on Colorado's roads and highways than I can ever recall in the past. I'm sure the statistics would bear that out. And you get hit by an uninsured driver, it's a really, really bad day. It's a bad day to begin with, but then when you find out they have no insurance coverage, You need to make sure you've got folks out there. Check with your agent. Call Roger Mangan. Let him review your policy. But make sure you've got that uninsured, underinsured motorist coverage that protects you. It's your policy. It protects you in the event you get hit by one of those uninsured drivers. And there's a lot of them out there right now, Alan.
SPEAKER 14 :
There really is, and it really is unfortunate. The irony is with how much our state legislates, you would think you'd be covered by state minimums. You'd think that some of this would be taken care of since they want to legislate everything down to what name you can even call your kid. But such is the way of things.
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Scary times we live in, no doubt.
SPEAKER 14 :
It really is. Well, thank you again for joining the show, John. And again, make sure and save that number, 303-999-9999.
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Thank you, Alan. Have a great rest of your show.
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Welcome back to the show. This is Alan Thomas. I'm hosting the show today while Kim is traveling, so thanks for listening in. Make sure to visit the website, KimMonson.com, and sign up for the weekly email newsletter. There you'll get a good synopsis of the upcoming guests and the topics to be discussed for the week, as well as the most recent essays. You can always email the show at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. And thank you all for contributing to support our independent voice and exercising our freedom of speech. And again, just in light of Memorial Day, just wanted to recommend visiting the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado, where they get to celebrate our Medal of Honor recipients, as well as also teaching and upholding the principles of America, which are honor, integrity and patriotism. Speaking of honor and integrity, excited to have on the line with us Jeremy Portnoy. Jeremy Portnoy is an investigative journalist with OpenTheBooks.com. He's the author of the nationally syndicated Waste of the Day column at Real Clear Politics, which has been cited by the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, New York Post, PBS, and also several times on the floor of Congress. Also, he worked as a sports reporter covering the New York Giants for SB Nation. So welcome to the show, Jeremy. Thanks for having me, Alan. How are you? Oh, it's an interesting day here. It seems like the fog has gotten a little bit thicker, but, you know, we've covered compelled speech being forced here in Colorado, and now we get to transition a little bit to more national news here with this recent article by Open the Books, Social Security for 200-Year-Olds.
SPEAKER 05 :
So we've been digging into.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, go ahead. My bad. No, no. Tell us what's going on there.
SPEAKER 05 :
So we've been digging into Social Security for a few months now, ever since Doge and Trump took office, talking about how there's people on the books up to 360 years old still receiving payments. We've known for a long time that some of these payments go to dead people, but we've been trying to put a figure on exactly how much money is spent and how many people are still on the list that are above that age. But so far, we've just been stonewalled in our efforts. We've filed Freedom of Information requests with Social Security. They've told us they have no record of how many people above 100 years old are still receiving checks. So that's information that's really important for taxpayers that they're just not being transparent with.
SPEAKER 14 :
And, you know, one of the things I appreciate about your organization is, you know, Trump and Musk have come out and said all of these things. And you're like, OK, thanks for highlighting discrepancies. But we still want to check for ourselves. Right. I mean, this is equal opportunity, information and transparency.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. I mean, it's good. We have an administration that is focused on rooting out the fraud and waste. that we've been tracking for over a decade now. But you can't always take their word for it, right? We want to see what's really happening. And taxpayers themselves need to understand how much money is being spent. So that's why we've been advocating for what we're calling America's Checkbook, which would be a system where every dollar that gets spent by the government is posted online in real time. Right now we have USAspending.gov. That gives us the info about 45 to 60 days after the money's already been spent. But that's not good enough. We need to see it as it's happening so we can really hold people accountable and make sure not a single penny is lost to all this fraud that we see every year.
SPEAKER 14 :
And for some of the newer generation as well, what you used to do with a checkbook is as soon as you wrote a check and signed up to pay a service, you'd take your checkbook out and flip to the back and keep an accounting of where is the check going to and for how much. That way you could keep a running tally for your finances for the month. And that's kind of what you're asking. You're like, hey, if we're going to be paying, let's keep a running tally of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly, but a lot of times we don't get this data until months or years after the money's already been paid out, and it's almost impossible to recover at that point, right? Like once a year, we get data on improper payments from the government. So we know that last year $346 million was paid to dead people, some of that's Social Security, some of that's federal pension money. But like I said, we only get that data once a year, which is not good enough. We need real-time transparency so we can really hold people accountable.
SPEAKER 14 :
And one of the interesting things, and I'm glad the article kind of goes through this, is when Trump was making his State of the Union, he was kind of breaking people out into these categories. You know, there was almost 5 million people that are age 100 to 109, which when you sit there and you think about how many people are in a country, you're like, that feels high. And then he goes, wait a minute, there's also many millions, 3.6 million from 110 to 119 people. And I loved his quip. At that point, he turned to Robert Kennedy and said, I didn't know we were that healthy, Bobby. But you kind of go into how in the State of the Union, he broke it out by ages. But you're having difficulty with the Social Security Administration really also replicating those age ranges as well, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. After Trump said that, we went right away and filed an open records request saying, hey, please send us your data, breaking it down by age bracket and by state, showing us exactly where this money is going and how old the recipients are. They told us they don't have those records. So there's two scenarios there. Either the record really doesn't exist and they're not keeping track of it, which is a huge issue because it should be tracked, or they're playing games with us and withholding that information to try and keep it secret. Either way, not very good.
SPEAKER 14 :
So by not keeping track, what do you mean? Is this meaning that there's no record by the Social Security Administration of these individuals or that there's no record of payments being made?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what they told us. There's no record of payments being made that breaks it down by each bracket, which is, again, an issue. We know last year over $10 billion was lost by Social Security in improper payments. That's money that gets sent to the wrong person or for the wrong amount by mistake. So over time, that adds up to a ton of money. Improper payments across the entire government was about $1 trillion in the last four years, which is a big chunk of our federal debt all sent away by mistake.
SPEAKER 14 :
Seems like there should be a little bit more accountability with a trillion dollars being spent in four years.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what you would think, right? It's shocking when you hear those numbers. During the Biden administration, almost $1 trillion lost to improper payments. During Trump's first term, the number was closer to $700 billion. It just keeps going up. And we only get that data once a year. Every November, the Treasury posts it online. So we'll find out later this year how much was lost this year and Trump's first year in office. I'm sure it's once again going to be in the hundreds of billions.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so that's interesting because that's, you know, Trump was kind of vague about this, that money, you know, he quote, money is being paid to many of them and we're searching it right now. A lot of money is paid out to people because it keeps getting paid and paid and nobody does. But then the Social Security Administration is basically trying to tell you guys that what President Trump wasn't quite telling the truth at the State of the Union. Is that the is it kind of which one is telling the truth now?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Social Security Administration, they didn't tell us either way whether it's telling the truth or not. They're just telling us they have no records to send us. It's a very short response. That's unfortunately the kind of response you get from a lot of federal agencies. It can take up to 1,000 days for them to answer some of these open records requests, oftentimes not with the complete information that we requested. This time, at least, they responded pretty quickly, but they didn't give us any of the data we were looking for.
SPEAKER 14 :
And how does that work? Do you continue to keep asking them and pushing back, or are they kind of like, hey, we're closing the books on this, have a good day?
SPEAKER 05 :
If it's really at the point where we know those records exist, we can file lawsuits. We've done that at the federal level, state level, and local level, including at the state of California a couple years back, refused to give us their checkbook. So we had to sue the state and one in court to finally break open those records. But that's another issue with transparency. We're talking about real-time data being posted online. A lot of times these agencies can drag their feet in response to open records requests. There's not always a lot we can do.
SPEAKER 14 :
And what's the game plan that you guys have now? Because, I mean, obviously there's people over 100 that are alive and should be getting Social Security checks. So there should be some payments being made.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So we're trying to go the congressional route now. If they won't answer our open records request, we're working with some legislators in Congress trying to change the law and overhaul usaspending.gov, that spending website I just mentioned, to make sure it posts data in real time instead of 45 to 60 days after it's been spent. So I'm not sure just what I can reveal just now, but you can definitely expect at least one bill to be introduced later in the year, trying to change that system and make it much more useful for taxpayers.
SPEAKER 14 :
At the very least, you're not giving up on it. You're not just saying, hey, I trust you guys that you're giving me all the information, and it seems odd, but thank you. You're still following up with it and trying to get to the bottom of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. We've been doing this since 2013. We were here before Doge. We're going to be here after them, tracking every dollar that gets spent at the federal, state, and local level, making sure that they're not a single penny is wasted without everyone knowing about it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And what a Herculean effort that is to try and get to the bottom of all the spending of the federal government.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. It's really impressive. I mean, I'm not trying to toot my own horn. This was made long before I was working here at Open the Books. Our founder, Adam Andrzejewski, had decisions post every dime online in real time. So we file about 50,000 to 60,000 open records requests every year. posts every dollar that gets spent in checkbooks, every dollar that gets paid in salaries and pensions. You can see it all at OpenTheBooks.com. We're constantly posting new data.
SPEAKER 14 :
And and again, pretty, pretty obvious name as well. Open the books dot com. So we're going to go to break. And when we get back, maybe we'll talk a little bit about how we can actually clean up the database for for the Social Security Administration. But I do want to thank one of the newer sponsors to the show, the second syndicate for their sponsorship.
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SPEAKER 05 :
get results from that data but that leads to follow-up questions and right now the social security administration is really stonewalling open the books right like i said we've been filing freedom of information requests trying to get their data on how much money is spent by age bracket so how much money is going to 100 to 110 year olds 110 to 120 possibly all the way up to 360 years old like trump has claimed in his speeches We're trying to verify that data, but they haven't been sending it to us so far. All we have is their annual data on improper payments, which is made after the fact, and we can't hold them accountable to prevent that money from being spent in the first place.
SPEAKER 14 :
And one of the interesting things that Doge is doing as well is they're saying, okay, not only is this fraudulent, but hey, maybe we should go in and clean up the database and start deleting some of these social security numbers from the database. That way they don't get used or accidentally sent payments to. And in this article, you highlight how Doge is posting on X some of that record keeping that they're doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. That's another big effort our company has been making, has been to try to verify a lot of these cuts that Doge is making, making sure that they're really happening, making sure that the claims they're making are accurate, because you've probably seen highlighted in the media, sometimes their numbers were inaccurate or misleading. So what we've been doing over the last few weeks is we created a spreadsheet of every single grant and contract that Doge says they've cut, We've been going line by line, trying to verify every single one with the data that's publicly available on usaspending.gov that tracks all spending. And what we've been found is that it's roughly a 50-50 split between what we can actually verify is definitely true and what we need to just take village's word for. That doesn't mean they're lying about half of them. It just means there's no way to actually check them besides just assuming that they're telling the truth.
SPEAKER 14 :
And have you seen any patterns to that at all, Jeremy? Have you seen anything where that 50-50 seems to be broken by department, or is it inter-department dependent? Have you seen any patterns with that?
SPEAKER 05 :
There's definitely some departments where it's tougher to verify. The big one is the Department of Defense. There's so much spending that goes on there that they actually have special rules that allow them to post their spending online later than other federal agencies. I believe it's up to 90 days or more that they have to post their spending online. So there's a lot of contracts that we see those are cut from the Department of Defense. When you go online to look at their database, there's no record of that yet. So we have no idea if that's actually happening. Similar story with USAID, a lot of foreign aid payments that have supposedly been cut, but we can't verify to see if those dollar figures are accurate.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the Department of Defense is difficult, right? Because on one hand, you want to protect the national security interests. But to your point as well, we don't want to be paying $5,000 for a coffee mug or for a hammer, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. It's a tough balancing act, like you said. If you look at their budget breakdown, it's only about 21% of defense spending that actually goes to what's called active forces. So that's our actual men and women in uniform on the front lines. About 50% of defense spending goes to operations and maintenance, which is the bureaucracy of the Pentagon, people sitting at desks doing office work. So that's kind of the sector where we're looking for some cuts to be made, possibly clean up a lot of the fraud and waste that we see in the Pentagon every year.
SPEAKER 14 :
Which, for those keeping track, is only 71% of their budget, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, and then the rest goes to research and testing, salaries for other employees, of course, a lot of their office space and bases they have all across the country. But it's really that operations and maintenance budget where we see things like, you know, Pentagon being charged 5,600% above market value for spare parts, where we see them failing audits year after year because their record keeping can't keep track of the money they're spending. That's those big issues that we've been highlighting all the time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Man, and like I said, just a Herculean task. So when you get these numbers in, what kind of methodology do you guys employ to, one, double-check the accuracy and reliability of the data? And do you guys just have massive spreadsheets keeping track of all of this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's a lot of Excel work. We have some data people that are much better with computers than I am. They helped us build this into something readable for us. And then me and the rest of the journalism team We'll go through these Excel sheets of hundreds and thousands of rows, sometimes millions of rows, checking for what sticks out to us. So we've been doing this for a long time. We've got a pretty good eye for it to see, hey, this seems odd. Let's dig into this a little more. And that's sometimes where we find these crazy things. The Pentagon we've already been discussing, we found them spending tens of millions of dollars on lobster tail, ribeye steak. Those are the sort of things we look out for.
SPEAKER 14 :
How do you find that smoking gun? It seems like it's almost like a needle in a haystack. It sounds like a lot to us, right? Tens of millions of dollars seems like it should be easy to find. However, we're kind of finding out with Doge and some of your investigative work, it's like, well, tens of millions in the massive haystack of trillions can actually be somewhat difficult to find.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Well, the problem is that these spending patterns keep being repeated year after year. So unfortunately, we know what to look for, and it keeps popping up over and over again. So I knew seven years ago the Pentagon was spending tens of millions of dollars on lobster tail. So I said, let me do a keyword search for lobster, see what's in the data this year. And of course, it's there again, more money being spent on the same things over and over again. So we know what to look for, and unfortunately, it's usually there.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, as a taxpayer, this is just incredibly frustrating, right, to hear that these taxpayer dollars is going to help other people eat lobster when I'm sure my wife would love to have a little surf and turf night herself, right? I mean, I'd love to spend my money on lobster tail that I could eat. What... What can we even do as taxpayers with this data? I mean, we know that there's fraud. We know that there's waste. It seems like Doge is trying to do something. But is there anything you recommend that we could take this data that you're finding to put pressure on these government officials to knock it off?
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a matter of keeping yourself informed and making sure your voice is heard, right? And remember that the spending can be cut and reduced when there is a lot of fraud and waste to be found. If you remember, Doge's original goal was to trim $2 trillion from the federal budget, and they lowered that all the way down to $150 billion. And then the budget request we actually got from President Trump doesn't reduce spending by even a single dollar. So it's important to make your voice heard and make yourself aware of this information so that our lawmakers hear us and make some changes.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm sure you have an opinion. I know when Doge came out, they said we could cut a trillion. Did that seem realistic to you, looking at all this data?
SPEAKER 05 :
It's realistic as a long-term goal. And honestly, it's not a matter of realistic or not. It's just a matter of necessity. Our national debt is almost up to $37 trillion. So we're going to need huge reductions in spending if we're ever going to get that under control. So that original goal of $2 trillion would mean cutting into entitlement programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, which obviously no one wants to touch or talk about. But over the long term, those programs are underfunded by about $175 trillion over the next 100 years, which is just a mind-boggling number. It's going to be almost impossible to fill without making some cuts.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and off the top of my head, I don't even know what comes after trillion, but we're vastly approaching those types of numbers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. I mean, that's $175 trillion. That's the net worth of about 500 Elon Musk's. So a lot of money we're talking about there. So eventually some reform is going to be needed. And the longer we wait to do it, the more we push that expense and that burden onto future generations.
SPEAKER 14 :
So has Doge been effective? I mean, on one hand, I know they've done the PR battle piece, right? They've been effective at saying, hey, USAID is wasting money. We're seeing all this wastefulness. But like you said, we're not actually seeing a spending decrease in the big, beautiful bill of nowhere near the $2 trillion Doge promised. How effective is Doge actually being in finding and eliminating this waste and fraud?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, just their existence in the first place is definitely a step in the right direction, right? We've been pushing for years for Congress and the president to get this under control and put more of an emphasis on cutting waste, fraud, and abuse. And they're certainly doing that. But at the same time, that PR battle, we're worried it's going to swing back to the other side now because spending hasn't been cut, right? Because Doge's goal was $2 trillion. They didn't need it. It's easy to say now, oh, well, if they couldn't do it, then it's impossible, and there is not future length of the cut, when really that's not the case. There are cuts to be made, and it's important that people still remember that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Still remember that and still, like you said, apply pressure to eliminate this waste and fraud. I believe in the article you quote something like 76% of Americans support the effort that Doge is actually involved in, which includes 62% of Democrats. So this isn't a party line issue. This is people saying, I'm paying taxes in. I don't want to be wasting it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, because like I said, our federal debt is not up to opinion. $37 trillion is just an objective dollar figure that we have to pay down at some point. So it's not a partisan issue, like you said. At some point, we need to cut spending. And, you know, different parties can argue about what should be cut or where those cuts should come from. But we do know that we need a reduction in spending at some point.
SPEAKER 14 :
And like you said, even groups such as yours that are still trying to hold the government accountable and trying to work with a friendly Doge team, you're still running into roadblocks. And so we need those roadblocks to come down. We need to be holding this administration still accountable and say, hey, Social Security Administration, you need to give us the numbers, you need to give us the data. We need to be transparent and really fix a large divide that the country has in the transparency of government.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. We call it radical transparency. The same way you can go on your phone and check what's in your savings account or your checking account, you should be able to check what's in the government's bank account and what's being spent in real time. If you want money that you pay in taxes, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to see it.
SPEAKER 14 :
And like we know, when you deal with a lot of numbers, databases are prone to error, right? So it's being willing and able to say, hey, we know errors can happen. We're happy for anybody to audit it and find out where those errors are happening. So thanks for all you guys are doing at Open the Books. And how do you want to button up the conversation here, Jeremy?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you can head right over to OpenTheBooks.com. We're also on Substack, OpenTheBooks.substack.com, where you can read our longer reports, like the Social Security report that we've been discussing. Give us a follow on X and Instagram. It's great information that's coming out every day. It's important for everyone in America to be informed of it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and thanks again for all that you're doing. So please continue to forge on and protect all of our tax dollars and do the work that you're doing to bring transparency back to the government.
SPEAKER 05 :
Will do. Thanks so much, Alan, for having me on the show.
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And welcome back. This is Alan Thomas, pleased to host the show while Kim is traveling. Make sure and visit the website, kimmunson.com, where you can sign up for the weekly email newsletter. Get a great preview of the upcoming guests and their topics, as well as the most recent essays. And you can always email the show at kim at kimmunson.com. We have on the line Action Anne. Action Anne, what's on your mind?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'm calling in because people listen to your show at different times, and for some it could be a pencil and paper time, okay? It's just a reminder of what Kevin Lundberg had stated earlier, which is there will be a press conference on the west steps of the Capitol today with Dr. – Dorothy, who is flying in to give the evidence that we have election irregularity and evidence of election manipulation. So your presence is really asked for at 2.30 today, May 27th, on the west steps of the Capitol. Okay?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, ma'am. Thank you for that reminder. And absolutely. We had a great conversation with former representative or former state senator Kevin Lumberg in the first hour where we delved in a little bit deeper about some of the election integrity. election integrity issues in rapo county how data sets seem to align too perfectly so again thank you action and for highlighting visit the state capitol at 2 30 this afternoon hopefully the weather will will be nice and we won't get rained out but regardless make sure and keep up to date with that because they're just a lot of questions the questions that inquiring minds shouldn't be scared of asking so the evidence is there okay thank you Thank you, Ann. And, you know, regarding that, we've seen a lot of... We also talked with former Senator Kevin Lumberg about the compelled speech of 1312. And one of the interesting headlines that I ran across, I just wanted to highlight really quickly, is that the State Department is actually going to be visiting... France and Ireland this week to push both countries to respect citizens rights, so they're visiting foreign countries regarding compelled speech and The quip I kind of thought up of was can we get the State Department to visit Colorado as well? so this this trip is part of the State Department's effort to put to fight egregious examples of democratic backsliding and violations of basic natural rights in Europe and One of those is they talked about they're going to be meeting Livia Toscini-Bolt. And get this, it's a woman who was prosecuted for holding a sign near an abortion clinic that read, and here's what will cost you a 2,000-pound fine. The sign merely said, here to talk if you want. So... She's just trying to be a neighbor, just trying to provide a voice to say, hey, if you want to talk about things, please feel free to. And instead, they're trying to fine her 20,000 pounds for that sign. So also kind of interesting for those of us watching kind of some of the legislative going ons here in Colorado. One of the bills this year was, and again, intent is always good, right? One of the bills that we had was to protect children online and how to go about doing that. And one thing that Europe has done is they passed a Digital Services Act. It's a European Union legislation. that also impacts American companies based in Ireland, particularly technology companies. And the legislation ostensibly aims to protect children by moderating online content in harmful practices like child pornography. Which, again, when we talk about the word of the day, praxis, great theory, great idea, but in practice... A State Department official told The Daily Wire it has been used to target political speech deemed to be hateful or offensive by European governments. So, American social media companies face heavy fines if they do not conform to censorship rules. So, when you talk about legislation, when you talk about compelling speech or watching speech... The fear is, whenever you can compel or force it, that it will be weaponized. And who gets to decide what is or is not offensive? And that's a political question, which is why we have the freedom of speech amendment to our Constitution, because we understood if the government is in any way able to moderate or censor anybody for what they're going to say, then we have an issue. So, again, also wanted to just just highlight again this announcement that was made yesterday by Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI. Just dive a little bit more into this headline. So if if you will remember, on July 2nd, 2023, the Secret Service discovered powder cocaine in a vestibule cubby at the White House where visitors store mobile phones. President Biden, his family were at Camp David at the time. Secret Service concluded its investigation 10 days later, ostensibly said that they didn't have any footage of it and it was just kind of wrapped up. So, you know, kind of difficult to believe that that a place as secure as the White House couldn't find a a culprit involved. for drugs in the white house so that's being reopened also more importantly when we talk about free speech this one was uh was a big issue at the time and especially those of us following it that care a lot about the integrity of the court when you talk about the supreme court There's a need for those justices to be able to speak and talk and debate in the privacy of their own opinions and ideas. We need them to be able to confer with each other and have that privacy in order for that branch of the government to provide good opinions. And in May of 2022, someone leaked a draft of Justice Samuel Alito's opinion in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. And again, the scary part of that was the reason it was leaked, presumably, was to provide pressure on the Supreme Court not to release the opinion that they were going to. So even the Supreme Court itself denounced the leak as, quote, a grave assault on the judicial process. Again... Justice should be free and independent. Our courts should not succumb to public pressure. That is something that our elected representatives should succumb to more so. That's the point of a representative government is for we, the people, to provide pressure on our elected officials. But the judicial system should not fall prey to that type of peer pressure. And so this leak was... was very scary to the judicial process. So Gail Curley, the court official assigned with investigating the incident, stated, quote, if a court employee disclosed the draft opinion, that person brazenly violated a system that was built fundamentally on trust with limited safeguards to regulate and constrain access to very sensitive information. So the fact that that was covered up was was difficult again with with technology and the way it is it's very easy to track who did and did not have access good job on Dan Bongino the deputy director of the FBI for opening that back up and getting to the bottom of that because whoever did release that did Did fundamental damage to a necessary institution. Lastly, the last thing he highlighted was the pipe bombs that were left near the DNC and RNC offices in Washington, D.C. on January 2021. Again, not finding a culprit for those. Again, political targets. The irony in that is that the DNC was also targeted along with the RNC. It would seem that both sides would want to get to the bottom of that. But as we've noted many times on the show, with politics, it seems that things happen for a reason, right? And inquiring minds need to question it, need to get after it, need to get to the bottom of it. So... One thing, just wanted to spend a little bit of time as well here at the end of the show going over this end of the show quote. We highlighted it briefly with former Senator Kevin Lumberg. Again, talking about many of the legislative issues coming out of Colorado. But Alexis de Tocqueville came to the U.S. and made lots of prescient comments about what was going on and what we needed to look out for. And one of his quotes that has been bouncing around in my brain all week is, a man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for those around him. And when you really break that down, it's very interesting to think about and to turn onto its head. That when someone cheers for unchecked power from above, when somebody is almost for tyranny in a sense, a legislative, a bureaucratic tyranny, it often means that they've lost faith. with their neighbors their community their fellow citizens even your ability to make decisions for yourself when you're when you're putting off that reliance on to the government where you don't even want to make your own decisions uh... that showing the exact opposite of what our government was built on that that we need to be trusting our neighbors and not trusting our government. We've instead flipped it on its head. So again, Alexis de Tocqueville, a man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for those around him. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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Shifting gears to the domestic arena, Tony engages Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick in a conversation about the reintegration of faith into public schools. They discuss the significance and potential impact of legislative initiatives mandating the display of the Ten Commandments in classrooms—an effort to realign educational spaces with foundational moral principles. The episode also highlights inspiring stories from individuals like Congressman McGuire, whose personal journey from a Navy SEAL to a Congressman illustrates a lifetime dedicated to service and a commitment to safeguarding American values.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a lot of people, and I don't know what happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten along with him, but he's sending rockets into cities and killing people, and I don't like it at all.
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That was President Donald Trump this weekend reacting to Russian President Vladimir Putin's largest drone barrage of the war, an assault that shattered hopes for a quick end to Ukraine's three-year ordeal. Good afternoon. Welcome to this May 27th edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Russia's expanded air offensive and its drive to seize more Ukrainian territory have dim prospects for a U.S. brokered peace. We'll get perspective from Virginia Congressman John McGuire, a former Navy SEAL and now a member of the House Armed Services Committee. Well, 60 years after Bible reading and prayer were forced out of public schools, faith is reemerging in state houses across the country. Texas is poised to join Louisiana in requiring every classroom to display the Ten Commandments.
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The displaying of the Ten Commandments in our Texas classrooms will bring back this historic tradition of recognizing America's foundational heritage in both our educational and judicial systems and remind students of the importance of this cornerstone of American and Texas law.
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That was Texas Representative Candy Noble. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas will bring us the latest in just a moment. I'll also share part of my weekend conversation with House Speaker Mike Johnson on the reconciliation bill that now moves to the Senate.
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The ball's in the Senate's court now, and I'm already talking with all of our friends and colleagues on the other side, and I've encouraged them to please make as many minor modifications to this as possible, because if they dramatically change the product, it presents an extraordinary challenge for us.
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And in Seattle, Washington, Mayor Bruce Harrell blames a Christian Don't Mess With Our Kids rally for violent protests by LGBTQ activists and anarchists, akin to Rome faulting Christians for feeding the lions. FRC's Travis Weber and Mary Sock will unpack that story and more later on this edition of Washington Watch. All right, before we jump in, I want to invite you to join FRC's 21-Day Family Bible Challenge through the Gospel of Matthew starting June the 11th. Simply text MATTHEW to 67742 for the reading plan, discussion questions, and kid-friendly activities. Again, just text MATTHEW to 67742 and take the challenge. Well, on Sunday, the Texas House of Representatives passed a bill requiring public schools to display the Ten Commandments. Texas Republicans hailed the bill as a way for students to recognize America's foundational moral heritage. But Texas Democrats criticized the legislation as nothing more than a promotion of Judeo-Christian religious favoritism. The bill now heads back to the Texas Senate for approval. Here with the latest is Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who earlier this year was tapped by President Trump to chair the Religious Liberty Commission. Lieutenant Governor Patrick, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Hi, Tony.
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Always great to see you and be with you.
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Well, you made this bill a priority for this legislative session. Next door in my home state of Louisiana, Governor Jeff Landry signed the bill into law last year. Texas, I think Arkansas also is pursuing something similar to this. Why is this important?
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Well, first of all, and it was Senate Bill 10, so the perfect number for the 10 commitments we passed several months ago and finally got through the House and back. And by the way, Tony, we actually had some Democrat support on this bill out of the Senate. It was unanimous by Republicans. About a third of the Democrats voted for it, so not as much on the other side. But this is important because It's part of our history. It's part of who we are as a nation. It's part of why we were founded. And by the way, that's the reason the Supreme Court really ushered this in for us, because the Bremerton case back in 2022 overturned cases before they prohibited this. So think about this. In Texas, we have five and a half million kids in public schools. We have about 8,000, 8,500 campuses. 1,200 school districts. So in every classroom, we're going to have the Ten Commandments. And the way it's set up, Tony, is we don't have an unfunded mandate. What we do is simply say anyone who wants to donate a 16 by 20 frame, Ten Commandment, you can take it to the school, and they are required to put it in the classroom. So what we hope are the churches, businesses, individuals will go to their local schools and say, how many classrooms do you have? 50? Here are 50 Ten Commandments, and you are required to put it on. So in every classroom in Texas, they're going to see the Ten Commandments, and they're going to know about God.
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You know, Governor, this is something I mentioned at the beginning of the program. It was 60 years ago that prayer in the Bible was taken out of our schools. It really launched the moral majority in, I think it was in March of 1984. That was at the pinnacle where they tried to get a constitutional amendment through to require prayer school. It failed in the United States Senate. But here we are 40 years after that. And we see a vibrant effort in states across the nation to bring back an understanding of this foundational moral truth that really founded and has guided this nation.
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Yeah, and also, Tony, this session, we have a bill that's passed to put prayer back in public school in a private time. So individuals will have that right to have a private moment of prayer in school. You know, a few years ago, it wasn't that long ago, really before the last election, that I think we thought we lost our culture in this country, we lost our faith foundation. Look, the last administration was attacking Christians primarily, but all faiths, attacking religious liberty in this country. And then November happened, and Donald Trump came into office, and the president and I talked about this religious liberty presidential commission that I'm chairing with such notables as Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Franklin Graham, Dr. Phil, who's a solid Christian, and Franklin Graham. And so, let's see, Ben Carson, Eric Metaxas. So this is an outstanding committee I have. I feel like a pair of brown shoes in a room full of tuxedos with the scholars and the clergy that I have with me. But I think we're taking our country back, Tony. And this president, as I said in the Rose Garden on National Prayer Day, No one has invoked the name of Jesus more than this president. And, you know, I believe and I believe the president believes that, you know, there's this saying, Tony, that no one should get between a doctor and a patient. But we believe no one should get between God and a believer or God and a seeker. So our Presidential Liberty Commission, I think, is an outpouring of what you're seeing around the country. We are taking this country back on God's word. And our commission is for all faiths. You know, we respect all faiths. but we are a primarily Judeo-Christian country. And so that's the magnificent inheritance that we were given by our founders, and it's time for America to reclaim it again.
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And I think it's appropriate that we begin looking at our schools, which have been the source of the indoctrination from the left for the last several decades. And what we're seeing is with each successive generation, about a 10% decline in identification with Christianity. So I think exposing kids to these moral truths is going to be absolutely critical. There's another piece of legislation which you've been supportive of there in Texas, which is called Release Time. and it simply allows students an hour or two a week to be released to go to a faith-based church or something that would be able to share the gospel with them. What's the status of that bill?
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I will check with my staff right now where we are on the bill. We're down to the last 36 hours, so it's a rush of hundreds of bills crossing our path. Hopefully I'll find out before we get off the air.
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Yeah, I think it's past the Senate, and I think it's over in the House, I think coming back. Yeah, I think it may be coming back to the Senate, but it's another one of those good bills that simply allows the faith community to be engaged in the process.
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Well, you were one of the ones who really put me onto that bill. You remember we were talking about that months ago, and I love the idea of it, and it is spreading across the country. But this has been a great session for God in Texas, and when you think about, Tony, putting the Ten Commandments in every classroom, there are going to be a lot of A lot of young people are going to look at that and say, teacher, tell me about that. Just tell me about it. What does that mean? And it's going to, you know, I've always thought this has to be tough for kids. You know, when you were growing up and I was growing up, we had prayer in public school and and we were able to talk about religion or faith and then that was taken away. And so here we take our kids too and our grandkids to Sunday school or church on Sundays and then we send them to school and they have been in the past forbidden to talk about it. And so now we're going to have this little natural connection, I think, between Sunday school or whether it's whether it's a synagogue or a church, whether it's whatever denomination, Baptist or Catholic, it doesn't matter. Students are going to come in and I believe feel more comfortable. And, you know, the Democrats who are against this Look, this battle, Tony, as you know, in this country is not really Republican and Democrat. It's darkness and light. That's what it's all about. And there's a big movement in this country that wants to kick God out of the country. Marxist-Socialist left. That's how they take over a country. Break up the family, kick God out, make government God. And so I'm proud of everyone who's pushing back, and I'm proud of our Texas members who voted for this in both chambers. You know, the Book of Jude, which is a very small book, I think it's 600 words, one chapter. If you go to the Bible, you know where it is. Some of your listeners or viewers, it's the one before Revelations. But it talks about... And Jude, of course, was the half-brother of James, who was the brother of Jesus. And he talks about contend earnestly. And most of the other books of the New Testament were really about, whether it was Thessalonians or Philippians or Galatians, it was Paul and others talking to non-believers. But in the book of Jude, as you know, it was talking to believers that you have to contend earnestly. In other words, you have to fight for the faith. And right now, I can tell you in America, those of us who believe in all faiths, we're fighting for our faith and we're not going to be pushed around anymore.
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I think it's commendable, and I want to thank you in your leadership position for doing that. But I would also say this, Governor Patrick, that more people share this concern and a desire to have a moral society than the left wants everyone to believe that Marxist. element is small, vocal, but small. I'm looking at a poll out of Texas voters from Scott Rasmussen regarding 72% of Texas voters believe behavior and discipline in public schools has gotten worse.
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80% would like to see values, moral character based upon biblical truth made available to public school students. So the public is with you in what you're doing.
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Yeah. And by the way, we have a new curriculum called Blue Bonnet that we've designed in Texas over the last few years. And it's based on biblical stories because there's so many stories in the Bible that are part of who we are. You know, it doesn't have to be about faith. It's just these wonderful stories. And we're now teaching them in our curriculum. And we give incentives to school districts who take in this curriculum. I think we are now up to about 400 school districts out of our 1,200 or so. So this Blue Botta curriculum is another thing that I think will lead the nation. You know, we take great pride as being Texans, and we like to lead. We see good ideas in other states, so we'll take their ideas and incorporate them into ours. But we like to lead, and we have one of the largest – let me say I've got a note on the question you asked. Senate Bill 1049, the release, just passed the Texas House on third reading today. That's why I did it today with no amendments. So it goes to the governor, Tony. So we made news right here for you.
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All right. There we have it, Governor. Thank you for your leadership on that and the Ten Commandments. We're out of time for today, but I look forward to talking to you real soon once again. I'll see you in D.C. All right. Keep up the great work. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas. All right. You heard it here. The release time bill just passed the House. It's on its way to the governor. This allows students an hour or two a week to be released with parental authority to go to a Christian ministry that would share with them the love of Jesus, the gospel. It's in many states across the country. We'll talk more about that. All right. Don't go away. When we come back, we're going to be joined by Congressman John McGuire. So don't go away. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, and we're here in Jerusalem, the city of King David, and I'm excited to announce the launch of our Family Bible Challenge to read through the Gospel of Matthew. Now, this 21-day challenge begins on June the 11th, and it's a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. It's in bite-sized readings. It takes about 10 to 15 minutes a day, and we provide a toolbox full of resources to help you along the journey, including a study guide titled, Matthew, the King and His Kingdom. We also provide downloadable resources such as age appropriate questions to engage children. And we have a variety of family friendly projects as well as this, listen, a coloring book, coloring pages about the life of Jesus for the younger kids and your grandkids. Think about it. What could be a better summer activity than to go on a journey through the life of Jesus as a family? Just think what God could do in the lives of your loved ones as they read Matthew. Unforgettable stories about the greater son of David, Jesus the Messiah. I hope you'll join us for our family Bible challenge beginning June the 11th. Text the word Matthew to 67742. I hope you'll join us. Thank you.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us on this Tuesday. All right. Over the weekend, Russia steadily bombarded Ukrainian cities with drones, missiles and airstrikes. The new attacks provoked a reaction from President Donald Trump, who on Sunday called Russian President Vladimir Putin absolutely crazy. Following the first reports of the strikes, the U.S. has already been weighing their involvement in negotiating a peace between Russia and Ukraine. But could this be the final straw for Trump and what might be the outcome between Ukraine and Russia? Joining us now to talk about this, Congressman John McGuire, who serves on the House Armed Services Committee and the Committee on Oversight and Accountability. He represents the 4th Congressional District of Virginia, and he is a former Navy SEAL. Congressman McGuire, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Yes, sir. Thanks for having me. As a veteran, as you said, as a Navy SEAL, I see this as a way to continue service to our country. I'm a very limited federal government, limited government type of guy, but I do believe if the government does anything, it should keep us safe. And I believe the American people are less safe at home and abroad. And during my campaign last year for the Virginia 5th Congressional District, I listened to what world leaders had to say about Ukraine and Russia. And they all had something different to say. But one thing that one leader stood out, and that was President Trump. He said, I just want people to stop dying. He's working really hard to try to negotiate with Zelensky and Putin. But as you can see, it seems like it's escalating. But President Trump is the art of the deal. And as a Christian, I think life is precious. It's a miracle. It must be protected. But I tell you what, either side doesn't seem like they want to give.
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Yeah, let's talk about that, Congressman, because, I mean, you've traveled the world. You were a Navy sniper in the SEALs. You understand that not everybody sees the world through the Judeo-Christian lens that we do. Even nonbelievers in this country still have this Judeo-Christian worldview where we value, for the most part, we value human life. That's not the case everywhere in the world. And when we see what's happening with Vladimir Putin and we know the history of Russia, What do you think is a likely outcome here?
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Well, it remains to be seen. I know that if you don't stand up to a bully, you know, one thing we learned in the military is a bully on every corner. If you don't stand up to them, it just gets worse. We have to have a strong leader. You saw under President Trump's first administration, none of these foreign wars, strong leadership. And we see what happens when you have a vacuum with American leadership. But it's a tough situation. In the last couple of days, Putin has gained more ground. Now, he's fighting a war of attrition. And if you look at how many artillery shells he's making, it would take him three, four, five years to take over all of Ukraine if we did nothing. But hopefully we can do sanctions. I know President Trump's talking about more sanctions. I know that some of the European countries are stepping up, but it's a messy war. People are dying on both sides. And I don't see, you know, it's not something that's not productive for the world.
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I think one of the steps that the president's already taken in this Congress is unleashing American energy, which can offset some of the money that Putin is making with their energy production.
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Absolutely. You know, we were energy independent in his first administration. First thing Biden did was he cut the Keystone pipeline. Instead of making money on energy, we were spending money on energy with countries that don't support the United States or our goals. And so we are we are fast approaching doing everything we can in the one big, beautiful bill to make America not just energy independent, but energy dominant. And the second bill that I introduced in Congress was to make uranium on the list of critical minerals, which would allow the US to use federal land for uranium. Right now, the majority, I'd say 70, 80% of the world's uranium is mined and processed in Russia or China. And we should not be getting these important minerals, these critical minerals from countries that don't like us. And so energy dominance will change the world. It will help grow this economy and get us out of this national debt.
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Congressman, you and I have spent a little bit of time visiting, talking with one another. And I want you to just kind of share a little bit. We've got about three minutes here left in this segment. Your path, your journey from Navy SEAL to Congressman, it's not a normal path, although it would appear that maybe the Navy SEALs are trying to take over Congress. There's quite a few in there right now. How did that happen for you?
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Yes, sir. Well, we have six Navy SEALs in the House of Representatives and my good friend Tim Sheehy in the U.S. Senate. So Speaker Mike Johnson says he thinks we've reached our Navy SEAL quota. But Ryan Zinke said he thinks we're halfway there. But no, it is a way to continue service. Let's see. I guess you may know just briefly I was abandoned as a child. My sister and I ended up in foster homes, nine different elementary schools. My grandfather rescued me and my sister. and raised us until my dad got sober. And on November 5th, through the grace of God, we got President Trump. In the same one week, we got President Trump to win his election for president. My dad celebrated 42 years sobriety. My youngest brother got promoted to brigadier general. Everybody thinks he's older than me, but he's more mature. And I got elected to Congress and my brother and I went to my dad, age 83 and said, had you not fought so hard to be sober, he wouldn't be Brigadier General and I wouldn't be in Congress. But I was in the state legislature, you know, and I got the highest reward for conservatism. You know, I, uh, I last year in the state Senate, I passed a pro-life bill. Every Republican in the, in the, in the house and the Senate said, John, you'll never pass this pro-life bill. But what I found that if you build relationships, Even if you disagree politically, sometimes, not always, if you treat people with respect, you can turn a no into a yes and an impossible to a possible. And so faith and family are just number one. Our country was founded in the church, Judeo-Christian values. And on my campaign, I've been to almost 400 different churches in the district. And I got a long ways to go. But this is what I did when I was a Navy SEAL. I don't drink or smoke because of what it did to my childhood is why I ended up in foster homes. But when I was a Navy SEAL, I would go to church no matter where I was. Sometimes I'd have to carry a gun to go to church because, as you know, it's dangerous to be a Christian in some places. But I believe this is a calling. I believe this is where God wants me to be. And I would ask you and your audience, any prayers or advice, appreciate it. success so far, but we got a long ways to go to save this country.
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Well, John, I can assure you that there are folks across this country that will be praying for you and your colleagues to be successful in laying out just what you just described. You know, I believe we need civility in our process. We need to treat one another as image bearers of God and work to move this nation back to a place of alignment with biblical truth. And I appreciate you being willing to do that. And thanks so much for coming on today. Always great to see you.
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You as well. And you know, the devil divides, Jesus reconciles or unites. And so I certainly fall short like everyone else, but we've got to be the salt and the light and I'm going to do my best.
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I know you will. Congressman John McGuire of Virginia. And I would encourage you folks, there are many men and women like John who love the Lord Jesus Christ. Pray for them as we're instructed to do by Paul in the book of Timothy. All right, don't go away. We're back after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in and making us part of your day. Let me encourage you, if you've not yet, text Matthew to 67742 to join the 21 Day Bible Challenge, the Family Bible Challenge. Text Matthew to 67742. Last week was a big one on Capitol Hill. It culminated with the House passing President Trump's one big, beautiful bill by one vote. Before heading into the weekend, I discussed the bill with House Speaker Mike Johnson on our weekend program this week on Capitol Hill. And I'd like to share the tail end of that conversation with you right now here. It was that discussion. I want to go to the elements of this bill. I mean, we pray over this, and I think some on the left would be critical, saying, well, how can you pray for this bill? How does this bill line up with, as you see the Constitution and biblical principles for guiding our nation?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, that's a great question. We might need more than a segment for that, but that should govern what we do and how we put legislation together. We want to do the best by the American people. We want to have public policy that comports with the principles that we all believe in that are founded and grounded in biblical truth. The idea of individual freedom and a more limited government and the importance of the rule of law and maintaining peace through strength and Speaking of that, there's military helicopters flying over. We want to make sure that we have fiscal sanity, responsibility, that we handle the Treasury and the treasure of the American people responsibly. And we want to have human dignity flourish. So in this big legislation, over 1,100 pages, all of those principles are interwoven.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, Mr. Speaker, let me go to the criticism on your side of the aisle among Republicans who say it doesn't go far enough. I mean, we've got Senate Republicans already saying they've got enough votes to block it. They don't like the state and local tax deductions, the SALT, the debt limit increase of $4 trillion, the CBO projections of deficit. How do you address those?
SPEAKER 02 :
Great question. So when we struck out to begin this process, we said we are going to turn the metaphorical aircraft carrier that you and I talk about all the time. It took us many decades to get the country into the mess, financial mess we're in. We cannot flip a switch and fix it overnight. But we have a responsibility to begin to steer out of the debt crisis. This bill is truly historic, Tony, in its scope and what it does. For the first time in history, this legislation is written so that we save $1.9 trillion with a T in taxpayer funds. There's never been anything like that. It's twice as much as the last time Congress even attempted such a thing, which was more than 30 years ago. So truly historic in turning the aircraft carrier and beginning us on a new trajectory. And in the process of that, we're going to extend the debt limit, not because we're going to spend more money, but because you have to do that to show the bond markets and the rest of the world that America is good on its debts. And that must be done. Everybody knows that. But President Trump is insistent about it. He says, we're not raising a ceiling to spend it. We're extending the debt limit. so that we can get our fiscal house in order. This is a really important thing. The CBO, Congressional Budget Office, scored it and said it's going to add to the deficit. The last time they scored a big bill like this, Tony, was the TCJA, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. trillion dollars off in their calculation. The CBO is run by Democrats. Eighty-four percent of the employees there that are crunching the numbers are donors to big Democrats like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. So we dismiss that. What they do not count for, Tony, is the pro-growth policies in this bill that is going to grow the U.S. economy. And that is how, in a combination with savings, we're going to get ourselves out of this mess.
SPEAKER 06 :
So is it safe to summarize, Mr. Speaker, that this 1,000-mile journey back to sanity begins with the first step, and this is moving us back in that direction?
SPEAKER 02 :
It is. And it's not just one step. It's a giant leap forward. Russ Vogt, who runs the Office of Management and Budget in the White House and the Trump administration, a famous fiscal hawk, wrote as much on his social media post over the last week. He said, listen, we can't turn it overnight. This is a massive leap forward. It's by far the most savings that any Congress has done. And, Tony, we did it out of the House with a three-vote margin. It's not an easy list, but we got it done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you think this reality is settling into Republicans? By the way, I would just say, and we go back to the process before of you giving everybody a voice, I actually think the bill turned out much better at the end of the process because, like the Freedom Caucus, they were working, and they actually achieved some things, which I think you're happy with, that ultimately will get this down the road and should satisfy many of those in the Senate.
SPEAKER 02 :
Of course. And look, you know me and my heart and my background. I can make an argument, I'm the most conservative, philosophically the most conservative person in the House, but I've got to get 217 or 218 votes to advance anything, 217 this week because of vacancies. So in order to do that, you've got to get people to come along who don't necessarily share that conviction. But I will say this, you're exactly right. My Freedom Caucus friends, and those are some of my closest friends in life, They held out to the end, and we were able to move, for example, the work requirements back pretty substantially on the calendar, or move it forward, in other words, so that those take place sooner. We were able to, because of that, kind of push the bureaucrats and the executive branch who are going to be charged with implementing and enforcing those new restrictions to put their models together faster. So there were some good innovations. Everyone had a voice. And at the end, we have a product that we can really be proud of. It's truly historic in its scope, and I've said probably the most consequential legislation that Congress has passed in many generations and maybe, I think, in maybe the top two or three measures of all time. I mean, really, it's going to be absolutely essential to get this done.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Mr. Speaker, final question, 30 seconds. What's next? When will this hit the president's desk in your projections?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, the ball's in the Senate's court now, and I'm already talking with all of our friends and colleagues on the other side, and I've encouraged them to please make as many minor modifications to this as possible, because if they dramatically change the product, it presents an extraordinary challenge for us. As you know, in the House, we achieved a very delicate balance, and we can't disturb that too much.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was my conversation this weekend with House Speaker Mike Johnson. You can hear the entire program on the Stand Firm app. If you don't have the Stand Firm app, go to the App Store, get the Stand Firm app or text APP to 67742. And I'll send you a link so that you can stay up to date with what's happening here at the Family Research Council. You'll get our news feed, the Washington Stand. You'll also get on the weekends this week on Capitol Hill that I do with House Speaker Mike Johnson. All right, don't go away. We've got a lot more. Washington Watch straight ahead, so stick around.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us. All right, I want to encourage you and your family to join FRC for a 21-day family Bible challenge through the book of Matthew. It starts June the 11th. It's a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. But in June, June the 11th, we start Matthew, the New Testament. Well, you and your family can walk together through the life of Christ. We have a study guide, weekly discussion questions, even kid-friendly activities, and much more. We want to engage everyone we can with the transforming power of God's Word. So if you'd like to be a part of this or share it with someone else, text the word MATTHEW to 67742. That's MATTHEW to 67742. All right, speaking of the Word, today's Word comes from Ezra chapter 7. Ezra arrived in Jerusalem in the fifth month of the seventh year of the king. On the first day of the first month, he had set out from Babylon. And on the first day of the fifth month, he came to Jerusalem because the gracious hand of his God was upon him. Why was God's gracious hand on Ezra? Well, verse 10 explains. For Ezra had set his heart to study the law of the Lord, to practice it, and to teach his statutes and ordinances in Israel. Now, notice the sequence. First, study. Ezra disciplined his mind to understand God's Word. Second, practice. What he discovered, he immediately folded into his daily life. And then third, teach. Out of personal obedience flowed credible instruction for others. Head, heart, and hands moved in unison. And God honored that alignment with tangible favor, a safe four-month journey and authority to reform worship in Jerusalem. Well, that pattern remains. When we place scripture at the center, let it reshape our behavior, and then pass it on, we too attract the good hand of God on our endeavors. For more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. That's BIBLE. to 67742. The long Memorial Day weekend may have given us an opportunity to pause and remember the service members who paid the ultimate price for our freedom. But there was much more that happened this weekend. In Seattle, May Day USA, Don't Mess With Our Kids rally resulted in about two dozen arrests when an LGBTQ activist group held a counter rally. Now, Seattle's mayor, Bruce Harrell, blamed the Christians for the outbreak of violence by their very presence. A message echoed by the LGBTQ community.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what you're going to put an anti-queer group that tries to do conversion therapy with people in the middle of Cal Anderson Park, named after the first openly gay legislator in Washington state history. I think the mayor owes the queer community an apology.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think he owes the Christian community an apology. We're here to discuss the Don't Mess With Our Kids rally and much more. Mary Sock, director of FRC Center for Human Dignity, and Travis Weber, FRC's vice president for policy and government affairs. Mary, Travis, thanks for joining me today. Tony, good to be with you.
SPEAKER 24 :
Thanks so much for having me on.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Travis, I want to start with you. This past weekend, the Don't Mess With Our Kids national tour hosted a peaceful rally in Seattle. What can you tell us about this?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I mean, Tony, this is something that's been going on for some time as parents and people of common sense around the country, even around the world, are saying we want to protect our kids. We don't want these ideologies finding their way through public school systems. emanating down from certain institutions of government, harming our kids and interfering with our kids and being promoted to our kids behind our back. So this goes back to an event in Peru, which the people of Peru pushed back against the infiltration of Peru by far left radical ideologies, gender ideologies, that are not consistent with God's design for the family and for parents raising children and families. This has been something that's going on for some time. There was an event here in Washington last fall in which people stood in defense of family and God's design. And so this is a continuation of this in Seattle. And if you look at this, Parents are saying we're standing for family, we're standing for marriage, we're standing for parents raising their children. It's the family, as God sets forth in Genesis 1 and 2. And so that's what it is. And so when we see opposition to this, we have to understand, people should understand observing this, that the opponents are opposed to God's design for the family.
SPEAKER 06 :
So according to one of the co-sponsors, Ginny Donnelly, she said there are three really primary purposes of this rally. Number one is stand for our children, as you just explained, as this transgender ideology is moving through the culture. Secondly, to restore the family unit, mom, dad, kids. And then third is to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ. So, Travis, how did this become a violent event?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, because it's becoming violent because what we see here is the opposition to, Tony, what you just laid out. Parents, children, family, and God's design in Genesis 1 and 2, the opposition to the word of God, the opposition to what God himself is saying about the family. This is sad to see because when people are opposing that, they're opposing something that is good and beneficial for them and for those around them. And so, The violence in the opposition should be a warning sign. It should be a warning indicator, like one of those flashing yellow lights on a machine or in a system or an airplane when something's wrong. You don't just ignore that. You deal with the problem and you address the concern. And so here, people should be, anyone who supports the family as God designed, and we know, Tony, that the years now of parents pushing back against what was being pushed through public schools in America on their children, We need to understand the opposition here is opposition to the family unit and just stand with those who are standing with the family. Just stand with them. Speak the truth. We don't have to do anything else but stand on the truth of what God says and on his word. And we're not going to be dissuaded. You know, there could be screaming and yelling at us, but we know we're standing in the truth for blessing for those around us in our communities and around our nation.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, and just to wrap this up with a statement that was released by the mayor's office there in Seattle, Mayor Bruce Harrell. He said, quote, Seattle is proud of our reputation as a welcoming, inclusive city for LGBTQ plus communities, I guess for them and no one else. And we stand with our trans neighbors when they face bigotry and injustice. Today's far-right rally was held here for this very reason, to provoke a reaction by promoting beliefs that are inherently opposed to our city's values in the heart of Seattle's most prominent LGBTQ plus neighborhood, end quote. So I guess if you don't line up with their values, which apparently seem to be driven by the LGBTQ ideology, then you're not welcome into the city. I want to I want to transition to what happens when we have elections in transition of government, because we saw something very similar, Mary, in the District of Columbia, where we back in 2022, an abortion clinic had the remains of five babies. And they were uncovered by pro-life organizers because they had been left out in the trash. Those pro-life advocates were actually prosecuted by the Biden administration. Now, a host of organizations, including the Family Research Council, is calling on the U.S. attorney in D.C., the acting U.S. attorney, Judge Gian Piero to pursue this. Give us the latest on this.
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, as you said, Tony, these bodies, these fully formed. Likely viable unborn babies were born babies were recovered from Cesare Sant'Angelo's abortion facility just blocks from the White House. These babies had they had injuries that showed evidence of partial birth abortion or perhaps even infanticide. And the Biden administration told the D.C. government to burn these bodies without conducting autopsies. Thankfully, members of Congress stepped in, and now there is an opportunity for the Trump administration to bring justice for these five babies who, again, exhibited injuries consistent with partial birth abortion, which is illegal in this country and is barbaric. So we're praying and hoping that the Trump administration will bring about justice for these five.
SPEAKER 06 :
So under the Biden administration, they destroyed the evidence, right?
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, they attempted to. Thankfully, members of Congress stepped in and said, look, if you destroy this evidence, we'll have no option but to bring a full hearing open to the public. And so presumably the bodies of those five are still there. Presumably the evidence could still be reviewed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Any response yet from Jeanine Perrault as to whether or not they will look into this?
SPEAKER 24 :
Not yet. The hope, though, is that the Trump administration has consistently been an administration that has stood up for the weak and the vulnerable. They pardoned those who actually recovered the bodies from the abortion facility. And so the hope is that they are interested in in protecting the rule of law and making sure that Americans follow the law. And that should include the law against partial birth abortion.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, Travis, to Mary's point about this administration being consistent, they pardoned these pro-lifers who uncovered this, where the Biden administration was prosecuting them instead of the abortionists who alleged to have done late-term abortions. The Trump administration meeting recently with pro-life advocates from the U.K. that were the subject of prosecution simply for praying. This shows a consistency and a concern from the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 18 :
That does, Tony. This is something we could be encouraged by as Americans, where we saw the previous administration going after people standing up against abortion and speaking out and exercising their freedoms. Here, Trump is coming to their defense, and they're doing so by sending a clear signal to the UK, the people prosecuted by the United Kingdom government for prayer, for prayer, outside of abortion facilities in the UK, times silent prayer. These have been prosecutions. We have a list of them. FRC compiled a resource explaining what's going on here, listing out where this has developed in Europe. And folks can find that at frc.org slash prayer in Europe. But as our resource explains, this has been a concerning trend in Europe recently, the UK, other countries as well. But the recent news reports have indicated that the United States, the administration, State Department officials from the Bureau of Human Rights and Labor have gone to the UK, met with those prosecuted. And as reported in the news, the people in the UK are encouraged by this. So we're showing, we're standing with them, standing with a foundational, you know, value of freedom and free speech, the freedom to exercise a religious beliefs. This should be common to Western Europe. However, as the vice president explained at the Munich security conference a few months ago, this needs to be protected. And European leaders were alarmed by the fact that vice president Vance would address prayer, the prosecutions of prayer in Europe, which is, it's concerning that they should be alarmed by it, but we're glad that he addressed it. And we're hopeful that this will shift the tide back to the defense of its foundational freedoms across Western Europe. And, Tony, as you know, we have been tracking the threats to religious freedom in the West, in Europe, the United States, Canada, the other Western countries, because this has been overlooked. But it's a concern not just in many places around the world that people are more familiar with, but there are threats to religious freedom in the West, which is the historic Christian heartland in the last few hundred years.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, Mary Travis, is there any evidence to suggest that leaders in Europe are taking note of the priority that the United States is placing on this?
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, Tony, I think they are. You know, the British Prime Minister Keir Starmer was quoted as in defense. He was quizzed on this and defended himself by saying, look, we protect free speech. We're a country of free speech. OK, that's good. We want to see how the country is going to react to that. We want to see some There should be some policy changes that follow that. One of the other things that was raised by US officials was the UK's online speech safety regulating body. It's a serious problem because this body has been and will continue to be used to go after free speech in defense of traditional values, defense of family values in the UK. So Tony, I think the answer is they're on notice, they're aware of what the Trump administration is doing. So we believe the Trump administration should continue to kind of state and exercise its foreign policy prerogative as it's been doing, continue to lay out and explain that family values, free speech, and religious freedom should be something that's protected everywhere around the world.
SPEAKER 06 :
When you look at the issue of life, Mary, the sanctity of human life, and as Travis was making a point earlier about these pro-life advocates in the UK, the opposition or the prosecution of them came from praying. Most of those who are advocating for the unborn, for the family, for children, do so out of deeply held beliefs that come from their faith. Is that not the case?
SPEAKER 24 :
Absolutely is. And in fact, when we look at those who were put in jail for praying outside Cesare Sant'Angelo's abortion facility, where the five bodies of babies who may have been partially aborted were recovered, those people are sitting in the abortion facility singing songs to God, singing songs of praise, singing songs of of repentance. This was a completely peaceful protest. And the Biden administration also threw those people in jail. So the situation here under the Biden administration, perhaps not quite what we see in the U.K., where silent prayer was prosecuted, but it's very close to that. And thank goodness the Trump administration has stepped in and taken over.
SPEAKER 06 :
Travis, you just have about 45 seconds left. But this speaks to why, as a foreign policy priority, we should be promoting religious freedom around the world, not just in Europe, but everywhere, because from it comes the advocacy for the sanctity of life, family, and everything else we care about.
SPEAKER 18 :
absolutely and tony i think we're off to a good start with that because as trump's been very focused on trade resets negotiations globally in bilateral discussions this issue of prayer prosecutions in the uk has come up as part of the discussions with the uk government on their the trade agreement with the us so this is something we should continue we know there was a recent speech in africa where the administration laid out an africa policy that was much more trade-centric so what i see them doing is moving away from the old models of dispersing of aid which came with all sorts of conditions, including anti-family conditions in some cases, moving to a reset, trade-oriented, but we can see the U.S. promote its historic values that are rooted in our own founding, religious freedom, faith, and family values to the world for the blessing of the world in this reset moment.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, Travis, Mary, thanks so much for joining me today. And, folks, I want to thank you for joining me as well. Check out the website, TonyPerkins.com. Until next time, just keep standing.
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