Join us as we analyze the FBI's motivations and actions under new leadership. Many wonder whether these probes will restore faith in federal law enforcement or simply distract from more pressing issues. With escalating calls for transparency and accountability, listeners weigh in with their thoughts on whether justice will finally be served in these high-profile cases.
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We got breaking news. Dan Bongino announces an FBI probe into the Supreme Court Dobbs decision leak.
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow for your Tuesday. Hope you had a good weekend. Obviously, we were all honoring Memorial Day and celebrating how you celebrate, of course, those who have fought for our country and have fallen for our country. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800- We have some interesting news that's come out this morning. Will Haines joining me in studio. CeCe Heil will be on later today, senior attorney here at the ACLJ, because this is one that really wasn't on our radar. It wasn't something we were even thinking about right now of all the new things that President Trump and his administration is doing. One of them we didn't really expect to see was the FBI deciding to probe into a couple of, I guess you could say, Cases that were closed, but were almost cold cases. They had nowhere to go. So three of them from the Biden administration. The one that's obviously we're looking at the closest is the leak of the Dobbs decision. That was the overturning of Roe versus Wade. You may remember that came out months before the decision was actually made. A early draft of that decision was leaked. And the Supreme Court announced a few months later that they were not able to locate anyone or find out any information about how or when it was leaked or how it got leaked. But The new FBI, led by Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, and Dan Bongino made a statement about this, said, that's not good enough for us. We would like to do an FBI probe. Now, opens up a lot of doors whether they can actually do this or not as the Supreme Court. You know, kind of can dictate its own future in that sense. But maybe they'll welcome this because we'd like to see some answers that's all we're looking for I think that's what they're looking for as well it's not necessarily that someone that this is criminal we're not even sure whether what the rules are the laws are in that in terms of that situation but someone should be held accountable if they can be located so the FBI decided to reopen that They decided to reopen also the drugs that were found in the White House during the Biden administration and figure out if there's any more information on that, as well as some of the January 6th issues that may have have been part of a plan. We're going to find out more of that as we go on. Of course, the big one we're looking at, well, is this Dobbs decision, because that impacts our people the most.
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That's right. And really what it shows is that Dan Bongino and Kash Patel at the FBI are looking into things that seem to almost get swept under the rug to some degree. They were big national stories that when you have the resources of federal law enforcement, you'd think you'd be able to get to the bottom of fairly quickly. And this is what Dan Bongino said on X. over the weekend about this update and it says shortly after swearing in the director and i evaluated a number of cases of potentially potential public corruption that understandably have garnered public interest we made the decision to either reopen or push additional resources and investigative attention to these cases And we're going to get into specifically the Dobbs decision leak a little bit later because it does almost set up a little bit of a conflict between the executive branch with the FBI and the Department of Justice and the judicial branch. The Supreme Court itself used the Supreme Court marshal to do the initial investigation and in some ways closed that. And I think there is a little bit of an irony when you look at all the cases before the court right now, before the Supreme Court, where the executive branch is arguing these are foreign policy decisions. These aren't things that the judiciary can weigh into. This is exclusively the power of the executive. Is the Supreme Court going to claim a very similar situation, say, this is an in-house investigation, this isn't a federal law enforcement issue, this is an executive branch issue? So we'll talk about some of that conflict in the next segment as well.
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We'll find out that, as Will said, as well. Phone lines are open for you. I'd love to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. And of course, this comes on the heels of a big win last week. We talked about that student, fifth grader who wanted to give up Bible versus special needs student got shut down and the school district immediately responded to us. And they changed their mind. They changed the rules. We won. Our lawyers are able to put the pressure on and get that done. We can't do that without you, without our legal team. We were traveling around the country to get all of this done and around the world. My brother's currently not in this country doing that work. ACLJ.org. If you want to be a part of the ACLJ, a great way you can donate, support, become a champion. We'll be back with your calls and comments. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open. We're going to restate. I know a lot of you are just joining us right now and again. Hey, you may be saying, you're wearing a jacket now. Why are you wearing a jacket? I don't want people to think this is like a tape or anything. I got cold, so I put on a jacket there, Will. There you go. So there you go. All right.
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Very transparent of you.
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Yeah, exactly. I'm going to let you talk more today because I just got done at the dentist. Are you numb? No, but it's just like, you know, the pain. Oh, that's fair. Speaking of pains, the FBI... Now we're like, we have to like change the narrative the way we talk about the FBI now. Right. Because now the FBI run by Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, they're making some moves here and they're making some big moves probing into sort of what I would say were cases that were closed but were never solved. Unsolved mysteries, if you will. Remember that, Will? Yes. Remember unsolved mysteries? Great show. Great top-notch show. So Dan Bongino said, I love unsolved mysteries and I want to bring it back. I'm going to bring back three different key unsolved mysteries from Washington, D.C., The biggest one for us being who leaked the Dobbs decision a few years ago when Roe versus Wade was overturned. Remember, it was leaked, what, three or four months before the actual decision. I think it ended up being 95%. the actual decision. There was some tweaks here and there, some grammatical changes, some citations, but for the most part, it ended up becoming very real. And then there's other FBI things that they're going to be investigating as well. Not necessarily always to find some sort of criminal, extreme criminal intent, which is the big question here. Does that... play into this, as you said. But maybe so the American people can rest a little easier knowing that our team can go in there and get this stuff done, that we actually can figure out. If you can figure out so many of these things, why were these left open-ended? And that one to me is the big one. Of course, there's one related to January 6th and then another one about some of the illegal substances were found inside of the White House. I think that one to me is a, I don't care. At this point, like President Trump has a new administration in town. They won. Who does that affect? I don't know if that matters really to our people. It doesn't matter to me personally. I think the January 6th one is interesting because at least continues that discussion. But the big one to me is this because Supreme Court of the United States is supposed to be held up to a very different standard. And the standard was really violated. I can't imagine, I can't remember another time where it felt that vulnerable than in that moment. Because remember, after the decision was leaked, that is when you started having all of the death threats that happened to the more conservative leaning, the ones who voted to overturn Roe. You had people in front of their houses. That was before Roe. That was before the decision was made. A lot of people thought that was to pressure to switch, because they can, to switch their opinions. That was the unleash the whirlwind, as Schumer said. So that's not uncommon. What was uncommon was this pressure being put on them because of that leaked document. So maybe...
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Maybe we'll get some answers. And I'm curious what the audience thinks about, are these things you want the FBI to be doing? Or are these things that you don't care about and say, just let it go away and keep focusing on restoring law and order in this country? But as an FBI supervisor, That supervisory special agent retired said the FBI can walk and chew gum at the same time. But give us a call. What are your thoughts on these? 1-800-684-3110 to be heard on air. We'll get to those calls. But when you look at this, Logan, it is interesting because Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are, I think, other than actually getting back to the work of the FBI, they are trying to rehabilitate the image of the FBI. And when you look at these three cases on their face, they should have been something that federal law enforcement could get to the bottom of very quickly. Obviously, the Dobbs leak decision was handled by the Supreme Court marshal, not by the FBI. Now, I don't know. They haven't publicly said whether or not there was coordination between the marshal at the Supreme Court and the FBI to use resources. But it was spearheaded by the supreme court marshals so their own in-house law enforcement uh the the white house case should have been with all of the uh security cameras and monitoring and security the white house should have been something that law enforcement could have uncovered pretty easily in And also the January 6th one. They had all the footage. They had all of this. This was the case of where there were alleged pipe bombs placed around D.C. on January 6th. And something that they were able to track individual people who were in the vicinity of the Capitol and go to their home. But someone they had footage of placing a pipe bomb In D.C., it's this big mystery that's never been discovered.
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Yeah, I see a lot of the comments coming in, and a lot of the comments aren't necessarily we care about who did it. We care about why it was covered up and why it was not investigated further. That, to me, is a bigger question. Right. That's the real question. You're right. listener whoever said that in the comments on youtube you're right because again what's it going to matter to find out who brought these substances into the white house it's not but you could go into why was it covered up who covered these things up who covered up the situations um and who leaked these documents those those are the things and not only who leaked the documents why wasn't it found out as we've been able to see with a lot of these you know, horrifying, let's just be honest, like the United healthcare murder and those kinds of things that happen is there are cameras and I've been talking to our security here. There are cameras just about everywhere. So just know when you're walking down the street, they can likely back it up as far as you can imagine. to figure out not only where you're going, but where you've been. They might back it up to your front door with so many cameras that exist. So you're right. It shouldn't be that hard. Now, maybe they thought this isn't worth the FBI's time. We're just going to move forward. And maybe they're right. But you can have that. You can have that discussion. But Dan Bongino, look, I'm sure the Biden administration didn't want the answers to those questions out there. You didn't want who leaked the Dobbs decision. You didn't want who was doing this in the White House. Again, it's Washington, D.C. There's a lot of crazy stuff that happens. I've said that before. It may not be nearly as nefarious as you think it may be, but Dan Bongino and the FBI are going to reopen these things. I see some people say that this is what they want them to do, and I see a lot of comments saying, hey, there's a lot of other things that we feel have been more important over the years that you promised us that haven't gotten done yet. Maybe focus on some of those.
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Well, and I feel like those are valid statements. The Department of Justice got some egg on their face very early with the Epstein client list situation where Pam Bondi went on TV and said, this is coming out. There was the unfortunate photo op. with the binders that some influencers got. And that turned out to be a very bad PR moment for the Department of Justice on the same team. With the hardcore base. With the base that's rooting for them, that's wanting these things. So I do think it's a very, not dangerous in the fact of like this could bring down the FBI, but dangerous PR move also to announce these. If they aren't confident, they can provide answers with that.
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Similar to the...
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If they don't, it's another failure of something that should be reasonably easy for the law enforcement to uncover the truth about.
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Yeah, and reading the comments, people are coming through a lot of that. The JFK list is one they said, well, not JFK list, the files. They were eventually released, but they weren't necessarily what people were hoping for or expecting. I think that's probably true for, look, I think that's probably true for a lot of government documentation, if we're just being honest. Do I think that they have just like, here's a one paragraph summary of everything you need to know? Probably not. They'd rather dump 100,000 pages on you and hopefully you have to decide how to figure it out. There's a lot of calls coming in, a lot of comments coming in as well. I think let's go quickly to a phone call just to get y'all going and hopefully you call us in as well. Call in as well. 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to Robert in Florida. Robert, you're on the air. Yes. Hello.
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I was agreeing with what you had said, and I thought that we need to thoroughly investigate and go after Comey and the other head of the FBI during the last four year administration.
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Well, we know that James Comey was visited by the Secret Service. He's been interviewed. Right. But he's definitely playing the victim. That's what kind of his M.O. has been since he was fired, that he is this moral compass of America, that he is the shining light, and that he is all that is good about this nation. Wears sweatpants. he walks on the beach we've gone through the litany of of ways he has bent the rules and uh kind of flown in the face of the rule of law in the united states trying to get at a sitting president of the united states and also to get attention right to get face time it's remember with clinton like it was always these like big build-up like you said showman kind of things then get in there and be like
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you know, I'm sorry, I'm just a sweet little man walking on the beach and looking at seashell formations.
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Well, and even with that, where he held those press conferences, the press conference where he said, we decline to recommend charges against Clinton.
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After 20 minutes of giving the reasons why she should have been.
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And then also reopening it days later when even Kash Patel has brought up that the FBI shouldn't even be the face of these things. they make their recommendations but it's the department of justice that chooses which cases to prosecute and not. So he was even taking away from the Attorney General the ability to make those decisions by getting out front, making these public statements and trying to be the authority and the dictator on law and order in this country. And even Kash Patel said, we're getting away from that. We're not going to be the ones holding a press conference saying, We decline to move forward with charges. He goes, we investigate and we give it to the DOJ and they decide.
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That's right. Thousands of you are watching right now. And I want you, if you like this show, if you like what we're doing here, one, if you're brand new, which we know about 50% of the people that watch on YouTube every day, never seen our beautiful faces. Well, you can click that subscribe button. We appreciate that. It's a free way. You can do the show every day from noon to 1 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday. We are on the air. If you are an ongoing supporter, if you like what we do here and you like the legal work we do as well and our media work, I'm gonna encourage you to go to aclj.org, make a donation. We're not funded by major sponsors. That is how we're able to do this at such a high level because of people like you that give on a one-time or an ongoing basis. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. We got phone lines open for you right now at 1-800-684-3110. We've had so many of you that continue to join us on social media right now or YouTube or on Rumble, our favorite free speech platform. You're on one of those outlets and you may just be... seeing the headline and wanting to click in. So we want to restate this. Usually we state this once, maybe we do it at the half hour, but so many of you are watching right now. I think we have to kind of reset just a little bit before we take some of these calls because the FBI has announced this morning that they are probing three different, at least three different weekends, because you'd say open-ended cold cases, things that were closed, but we never had a resolution. And the big one for us is that Supreme Court leak. You may remember it back just probably a four or five months before the announcement was made for the actual decision was given that Roe versus Wade had been overturned. And then the Dobbs decision and the Dobbs decision almost in its entirety was leaked. It was like 95% the same, if not more months before to put pressure on Supreme Court justices to change their mind while they still could to not do this, to not send abortion laws back to the states. Now we've seen what happened with that. You have some states that have taken very extreme pro-choice measures. You've seen that some have gone very extreme pro-life. some with zero exceptions, some with we'll fly you out to your state to do it for you. So you know what? I think we can look at the different circumstances in that and decide how you want to do it. But whatever happened there, we know that someone who was never caught, who was never exposed, who was never held accountable in any way. And again, it doesn't necessarily mean going to jail or even paying a fine, but it could mean losing your job. because you leaked sensitive material that was not ready to be public, private correspondence with Supreme Court justices, if you will, to the media. And that, of course, caused death threats to go upon many of the conservative justices, people standing out in front of their houses, protests in front of the Capitol, saying to unleash the whirlwind on these people. And no one was ever held accountable. But now, thankfully, we have someone like Dan Bongino, like Kash Patel there saying, you know what? Maybe we need to reopen this. Now, I see some comments saying, I don't care. Let's move on. We got bigger fish to fry. But as you said, Will, the FBI said we can do both.
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That's right. And this is actually an interesting comment coming from one of our longtime Rumble ranters, Granny, who says, if we don't find the answers, it'll happen again. And I think that maybe is the most important angle of these different investigations that was announced by Dan Bongino. When you look at each of them individually, even if the person caught, I think probably the most jeopardy would be the leaker because there could be charges of stealing government documents. They weren't classified documents. They're secret, but not like secret documents. classification they aren't meant to be released so it could be uh some charges like that stealing documents and obviously uh an alleged pipe bomber could also have very serious legal jeopardy but the one in the white house would be a most likely some sort of misdemeanor not even something that they may not even take the time to prosecute against an individual but it's the institutions behind them That if they can get to the answer, it can reveal a lot more about what's going on. Remember, the Secret Service is in charge of the White House. And that is what was able to be brought in with all their tight security and everything into the White House. This is the same Secret Service that had massive failures at protecting candidate President Trump. in butler pennsylvania if there are massive systemic failures at the secret service that can be uncovered through what could even be seen as a very small why are you wasting your time investigation they can draw a bigger picture to how those failures even on a grander scale where just millimeters away from ending president trump's life I think that's a worthwhile pursuit. So on the face of it, it may also look like these seem almost... This looks like a petty crime that the FBI is going after. But I think, to Granny's point, that if you want to stop... This what could be corruption, what could be massive incompetence. You have to look at these relatively small things that could be and the others aren't necessarily small things. But once again, the FBI, with all their resources and everything they were able to do of tracking down individuals on January 6th. Why a person that they had footage of? We know they have all this geolocation data. Why is this individual was never caught? Nothing was ever told us about why this happened when it comes to a alleged pipe bomber on January 6th. And so I think it just goes to a bigger picture of. of transparency, uncovering potential corruption, and trying to reset the order in D.C., but to our commenter's point as well, to not allow these things to happen again because we do bring resolution to them.
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Let's take a call. There's a call kind of related to that. Jim in Texas on line four. Jim, you're on the air.
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Hello, guys. Yeah, I had a comment involving those three revelations that they're going to open up on. I'll try to do it one at a time real quick. Um, number one, like the cocaine thing, what if it was someone up to and including, uh, the vice president, for example, or, or, you know, someone making decisions on behalf of the nation, even maybe someone that controls the nuke button, you know, so that needs to be found out there. Number two, the pipe bomb, whatever it was, the FBI, whatever it was, the CIA, whatever it was a deep state. All of those are extremely important to find out who it was. And then the third one is the Supreme court situation. Um, the Supreme court situation, uh, it could be as bad. Put me, I'm saying, not saying it is, as a Supreme Court justice, one of the leftists, or one of their aides.
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I think those are all, not necessarily, I don't want to put any theories, give any more credence to theories or not, but those are all, I'm sure, being discussed. Why it happened? Who did it? Who could have done it? Why was it covered up and not released?
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Well, and I think to Jim's point, when there are no answers, it only helps... Fuel speculation. Exactly. It sets the table for wherever your mind can go. about who were the people that did these things. And I think that is why it is important. Because say the White House story. What if it was a low-level staffer? One, completely wipes out that story. And if it was, why didn't the White House put that out there and make that go away? The issues surrounding January 6th. Those are things that they went very aggressively against people. Why someone who potentially had the most destructive thing on January 6th were they not able to find? It can either reveal a lot and it can also put out a lot of theories and things that are circulating and have been for years now. And as well with the leaker. There's a very small pool of potential people that it could be because there are the clerks that had access to this, the justices themselves, and then some ancillary staff that would have been an IT person or a non-judicial clerk, but someone that works for the court. It's a small pool of people. And when there are no answers and no resolution... then it's open-ended on who it could be, and that's what the country needs. We need to know these things, one, as a check on them happening again, but also, if it's not as wild a speculation as you can think, then that's put to rest.
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And now your host, Logan Sekula.
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Welcome back to Sekula. We have a ton of calls. We're going to take as many as we can coming up in the next couple segments. So stay on hold if you're on hold right now. That's right. Roberta, Fred, Michael, Brian, Warren. And we got one line open, so you can call in. 1-800-684-7000. 31 10 1 800 6 8 4 3 1 1 0. I want to restate. We're talking about here. Cause I know some of you are just joining us at the bottom of the hour here for our second half hour of the show. If you are, we are talking about the FBI announced this morning that Dan Bongino himself put out a statement and a statement saying we are essentially reopening three investigations, creating new probes into three different, or you'd say cold cases, closed cases that were never given any sort of proper resolution or And the big one we're focusing on is that Supreme Court leak. That's when the Dobbs decision, the overturn Roe versus Wade, was leaked months before, causing death threats to Supreme Court justices, protests in front of their homes. in the chaos that ensued after that. Of course, months later, we'd find out not only was that definitely leaked, it was 95% complete, if not more than that, of what actually got leaked to the press. Caused huge chaos in the country. We're still, I think, feeling the ramifications of that in the Supreme Court. I think the Supreme Court's integrity took a bit of a hit after that because it became so much more politicized to now go after conservative or liberal justices. Before it was, they were kind of quiet, unassuming. You didn't really hear from the justice as much. Now things have changed. I think a lot of it has to do with that leak that happened where the trust just got broken. But no evidence was ever found, allegedly, to prove who did this. But FBI under Dan Bongino, FBI under Kash Patel says that's not good enough for us. We're at least going to do our own investigation. And also included in that two more, one involving January 6th and some of the pipe bombs that were found that were never figured out who did them. And then also when there were some illegal substances brought in to the White House that were found. Again, I think those kind of you can kind of count those one, two, three to me on importance level. But it's more interesting that they've decided this is where the FBI should go right now. We should be reopening and creating new probes and inquiries into maybe investigations that weren't treated properly.
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Well, and also, as you look at this, once again, this isn't the only thing the FBI is working on. And in that same statement, Dan Bongino said, the director and I will have most of our incoming reform teams in place by next week. The hiring process can take a little bit of time, but we are approaching the finish line. This will help us both in doubling down on our reform agenda. So once again, government in many ways is structured differently. To not make progress quickly. And when you're talking about trying to reform an agency, I know there's been frustration with a lot of these picks by President Trump that they aren't moving fast enough. But when you're looking at an entrenched bureaucracy that was given so much power under the previous administration. you have to have a little grace that is going to take a little bit of time that the president has not been in office even six months yet. And they are already saying that these reform teams are being put in place. So I think one, that's a good update as well, but it goes back again to those issues there. That's a part of reform is trying to get to the bottom of these things. And I also think it's a little bit of a risky move on their part to But in the furtherance of transparency, they are telling us that they are opening these. But they also need to deliver because they are under the microscope that you promise reform, you promise these things.
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Yeah, there's a lot of comments coming in saying this feels like a distraction.
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Right. And if they don't deliver on these things that in the reality with the assets of law enforcement should be able to try and get to the bottom of relatively quickly. then it could be another kind of embarrassing moment for their attempt at transparency. So I actually applaud that they're even telling us, instead of just doing it and then saying, guess what we figured out? The leaker. Guess what we figured out? What happened on January 6th? Instead, they're saying, we're going to look into it. And it also may not be what you want to hear, If we don't get to a conclusion or the conclusion isn't what you thought.
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Yeah, you never know what exists, what doesn't exist, what got scrubbed. Who knows? We're going to find out, though, because we have different FBI in charge right now. Hey, coming up, we're going to take more calls and comments right now. The questions are the phone lines are full completely, but we're going to take some comments in the next segment. So we hopefully some free up some lines for you to call in in the last. So stay tuned. We're back in just a moment. Welcome back to Seculo. A lot of you watching, a lot of you calling in today, so I want to make sure we give ample amount of time to hear from you and your thoughts on this major breaking topic. Look, we weren't sure exactly if you were going to react to it, but clearly you did, and clearly you care, and that's awesome. That means we have a great group of people who listen and watch, who care about the things that are important, maybe a little more nuanced and a little more interesting. Now, some of you agree with this, some of you disagree with this, but let's go ahead and and move to phone calls for just a little bit, and then we'll continue on this discussion. Let's go to Michael, who's calling on line three. Michael, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. I agree with you, Logan, that one of the things that has to be looked at is the reason why these things were covered up to begin with, but a parallel track that has to be, and it's imperative in cases like this, is find out who did it. You have to, as a country that was It is born and founded on the rule of law. You have to hold people accountable. You have to have it fear. There's enough fear that people would not want to do similar type things. As a retired law enforcement officer, when I was investigating things, If I looked at cases and worked on cases that, oh, it happened six months ago or happened a year ago and just let it go, there would be no incentive to do the right thing, to do what the law says and to comply with it. You'd set a bad precedent. There would be no rule of law. And you couldn't arrest and do anything. In the Supreme Court case, yes, there's a small group of people that you have to go after who that person was. It will never happen because if you lose the integrity of the Supreme Court in this country, you have lost
SPEAKER 05 :
a lot and it just has to remain intact well and michael when we heard about the leak of the dobbs decision i remember precisely where i was and i was talking with logan and the team and being like this this can't be real was our first reaction and it was it was politico reporting it they got the leak decision first and we're like this can't be real this doesn't happen to this magnitude
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Such an important decision that everyone was waiting on.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then when you got into it and immediately the court confirmed this appears to be a genuine leaked draft opinion. We want to remind everyone this is not a final opinion until the final opinion is handed down. But it got the attention and it was a... that we'd never really seen something like that happen out of the court, especially to that magnitude. And we talked about the importance of the integrity of the court and in the deliberations by the justices, why they don't share along the way what's going on, but how their process, which is shielded from public eye, is to keep the integrity and allow them to freely deliberate what they believe the outcome and the opinion of that case should be. And in that there was an investigation done by the white house Marshall that was not the rigorous type of investigation that you would have seen from a government agency, a law enforcement agency like the FBI, um, that, that raised some concerns and especially that we never found out who the leaker was, not just because we want to know, but as you mentioned for accountability, um, So that person is known, and what happened is known to discourage it from happening again. But I also, when I look at this, and I mentioned this at the top of the show, this could set up a conflict between the judicial branch and the executive branch. The judicial branch says, we did an investigation. We found, did not find who the person was. We have an idea of maybe how it got disseminated or something like that, but we don't know who the person was, but we conducted our investigation, case closed. The FBI now saying that they are going to launch an investigation could set up a fight between the two independent co-equal branches of government that you're seeing also in the courts right now where the Trump administration's arguing foreign policy is our domain. And the courts should not be issuing preliminary injunctions that are nationwide blocking foreign policy decisions. Many of these aren't what they would say a matter of interpreting a law. These are policy decisions and you're litigating this. So a judicial branch should stay out of the executive branch. I'm curious how the Supreme Court responds to this announcement that they are going to investigate this, if they cooperate. Or if they say, like when they had the marshal do this instead of using other law enforcement, saying... This is our domain. Our opinions are our domain. How they get disseminated is our domain. It's none of the FBI's business. Y'all go worry about statutes and laws and protecting the country, but stay out of our lane because that does set up an interesting juxtaposition of them making a similar argument that the Trump administration is making in court that will end up before them.
SPEAKER 02 :
What I hope it's more like when some of these organizations, these departments said, Elon, come on in. We want you to come and doge this organization. That's what I kind of hope the Supreme Court does, which is like, come on in, Bongino. We'd like to know the answer to this as well and hold some people accountable. We don't feel like it got taken care of appropriately. Maybe you're right, though, Will. The Supreme Court, though, they can get a little ornery sometimes. They can get a little protective of their own justices, of their own judges.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'm not saying that that's not without merit, right? But that also does raise an interesting question about what is currently before the court about the executive branch saying this is our domain. Yeah. And...
SPEAKER 02 :
We're going to find out. Yeah, we got a couple lines open at 1-800-684-3110 because we just took a few calls. And I'm going to take another call right now. And when I take that call, then it'll be three lines open. So, you know, that's how it works. That's math, Will. I don't know if you know this. I learned that. You're pretty good at it. Pretty good at math. I've helped you along the way sometimes. You have. Math's not my strong suit, but I can go from two to three. I know that when I take this next call, as soon as they hang up, unless someone calls in, It's a math problem we've got to deal with. Yeah. Let's go ahead and go to Roberta, who's calling in Colorado on line one. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hi. I changed my mind. I think every single one is singly needed to be investigated. People need to be held accountable, and people need to be disciplined. All right.
SPEAKER 02 :
uh you know you've said earlier that you thought that if they didn't investigate it would set a bad precedent and the american people should care in what accountability and i think there are a lot of people that do uh it's just maybe not the top topic this may be at the top on their minds i'm looking at your comments there are other things some stuff i can talk about on the air some of the stuff i can't talk about as much on the air and we'll take a call about one of them uh because look promises made promises kept was a big push So there may have been a little, you know, again, sometimes they don't tell you what you want to hear. And that's what we do here as well. We tell you the truth. We tell you what we find out, what we believe is true and honest, even if it's not what we want to hear, even if it's not what you want to hear. Big one was Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously, the Epstein list, that's something that someone has a question about. We'll take that one coming up in the files. But of course, they both also came out and said, hey, we believe now after seeing the evidence, we've changed our mind. We believe it was a suicide that happened inside that jail cell. Major change, really, from where Bongino was. And look, they may have reasons to now believe that, that we don't know. But I can see the comments that are going. They felt a little bit like, you know, think the tide has turned and maybe that they got pushed to be saying those things. I don't think that's how it's running. But phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I think also, as you bring this up, and please call in as well for the next segment. We've been taking calls throughout the day today, if you've been watching, which is great.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, Pat. I'm looking at you, Pat, on YouTube, who always gets mad at me. He times me for when I say I'm going to take calls. I'm going to actually do this right now. Pat, I've been taking calls all show. Where you been, Pat? Okay? This is a Tuesday after a holiday. I'm firing up, baby. He's not going to like it, Logan. No. Pat, you're one step away from getting banned just because I feel like it. Okay? There's no free speech here on our YouTube channel. I can do what I want. Back to the topic at hand. No, Pat.
SPEAKER 05 :
When I've been, what I always struggle with between, you know, looking back at these things that happened in the past and some that are not so minor, some maybe more minor, is I kind of wanted to say, like, just move on. Pat has unleashed the whirlwind. Oh, no. Okay, no. He said, thanks for all your hard work, Logan. What I sometimes want is just leave these things behind. Just look forward and maybe get the FBI to stop sending spies into churches and stop investigating parents at school boards or pro-life protesters. Let's just reform the FBI and move forward and leave this stuff in the past. But I also understand that... some of these especially very major things that if you just leave them in the past it does set the bad precedent where people think they can get away with it in the future and so having this and being able to do both at the same time is what's very important to me
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I heard some of those words. Yeah, you're still fired up. Just still fired up over Pat. Pat said he's a champion. Thanks for that, I guess. I appreciate all the champions. You know, you could call in. And you'd get to the front of the line. I don't know. If I know it's Pat, I make the rules here. All right, phone lines are still open for you. We've got two calls coming in. Maybe we'll take you, maybe we won't. No, we're going to do our best to get to as many as we can. This has been a fun show. This is a really important topic to talk about. And so are all the things we talk about here at the ACLJ. We may have fun with you. We may be commenting back and forth. We try to make this show at least somewhat entertaining, Will and I here. But... We know that there are important things happening. We had an ACLJ topic that we wanted to bring up, but this kind of took over. So tomorrow we'll have CeCe Heil join us, and we'll discuss a lot more of the work of the ACLJ. Sometimes we've got to move stuff around. We can see, thanks to social media, thanks to YouTube Rumble, we can tell when you're reacting. So we want to make sure we stay on this topic, and we're going to take your calls when we get back at 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to secular. I do want to take your calls in this segment, uh, as usual, but we have two lines open still at 1-800-684-3110. And I would love to hear from you. Some of you been a hold for a little bit of time. Let's go to Brian who is calling first. I think with one of the questions or one of the statements that a lot of you have asked for, I've seen it in the comments. So Brian, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Well, uh, much of these three issues are important to be investigated. Um, I think drugs in the White House is probably one of the least things that needs to be investigated in the last administration in the White House. But on top of that, we were promised an unredacted list of the protestants at Epstein's Island. I've never seen that, and that just seems to have gone away. And we're concentrating on drugs in the White House instead of our children being trafficked. And I think it's very valid.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I think it's very valid to ask this, not because of the conspiratorial nature of Jeffrey Epstein, all of this, but because they promised it. They ran on it. Now, do I think that that list, the way you're thinking of the list exists? Probably not. I think everyone wants this like one paragraph. Here it is. And that's not how the government usually works. There probably are lists and documents, but it's probably not as simplified into an Excel document that you would like it to be. Maybe it does exist, but it feels that way. The problem, you had that big blunder. And it ended up becoming a fight between the Department of Justice and the FBI and all of that. And it kind of set a bad precedent. So now they're trying to figure out things. Now, do I agree with you that the drugs in the White House is a big deal? I do not. I think that one to me is kind of of the three a waste of time. Just because what are you going to find out that's going to matter? Nothing. Now, who leaked a Supreme Court decision? That matters to me. I do care about that. Especially one of the biggest ones in our lifetime. OK, because why? Because it actually caused people to have Supreme Court justices have death threats, chaos in the streets, everything that led from that leaking. And then the other one is interesting. I think the January 6th one is at least a we should find out the answers. Right. The third one, waste of time. But you're right in there. I think a lot of people, I'm seeing the comments. A lot of people said, hey, you promised a lot of other things, including that Epstein list before this. Where is it? Why don't we have it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and really, all of these speak to the same theme. And even what Dan Bongino said in his post on X was that these are a number of cases of potential public corruption. And so where I think the one at the White House matters, not in the story of a low level offense of a individual at the White House that would normally be a local police matter, not an FBI matter. This wasn't a trafficking charge or some cartel operation, but where it does fall under that potential public corruption. Is all of the things that you've seen hidden or swept under the rug or publicized like it was out there. And normally you think something like that wouldn't have even made the news that if it was found at the White House, because knowing the amount of people that go through the White House and the staffers and knowing Washington, D.C., That is probably not the first time that's happened. I can guarantee it. Not the first time it's happened. It's the first time that it became a news story like that. And I think that's where the, one, how did it become a news story? What's going on with the Secret Service? Especially everything we know about the Secret Service's failures in Butler, Pennsylvania. So I think it can be if it is about public corruption, not about the very specifics of the case of who brought something into the White House. But that is even goes to the Epstein list. What it seems is that there are big high profile things in this country. And there are people even in that case that are charged with something. But it always seems like someone or something is not brought to light. And it's just not a full story. And that's what the American people want. They want the full story. If someone was a trafficker of humans, of children, and is going to, one, got a plea deal early for it, and then was in prison for it and died before he ever got to trial. And his accomplice is in prison for that. and yet no other person has faced charges. That's where it doesn't add up, and that's where the American people want answers. This is one of the most high-profile things we've talked about, and we have no answers about it. That's what the people want you to get to the bottom of.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, let's try to get three calls in three minutes, see if we can do it. Warren's calling line six. You're on the air, Warren.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks, guys. It's a pleasure and honor to be a champion at ACLJ. But I think, like everybody's saying, we need to start with even just the small things. If you want to root out corruption in the bureaucracy, you have to start even when it seems small. Put fear in people. People should lose jobs. And the Democrats are quick to say nobody's above the law. And it takes even the little things to get to the root of the matter and get it out.
SPEAKER 02 :
Go ahead. Let's go to Larry calling in Virginia.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, hello. Yeah, I agree with the FBI decisions to go after the three cases that they are investigating, but Why can't the FBI go after those who illegally protested outside the homes of the Supreme Court justices?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think there was some of that that was taken care of. Some of it was broken up. But also, if their addresses are public and they're in a public sidewalk and all that, there's a lot of rules that you don't want to mess with, too, including your free speech.
SPEAKER 05 :
There is some of the laws about intimidation of a justice and things of that nature. And Larry, I think if that falls in line with what they want to do, I think at this point with that, Going and finding the protesters that would have had to have been monitored or the police work from the Federal Bureau of Investigation would have happened under the previous administration. If they didn't do anything about it, there may not be a lot that the FBI could do at this point. But that's why I think focusing on the leaker that kind of started all that is very important because it could shut down things like that in the future.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, Richard, line one, last call of the day. You're on the air. Yeah, good afternoon.
SPEAKER 07 :
Glad to be on the program. I think the lie detector test that we could look at is the body language. When cameras go down, there's no record. Guards fall asleep. And that we hear that, you know, that Epstein committed suicide. I don't believe that. I don't think that's true. And I think there's a cover up going on. And all these circumstantial evidences, they just don't add up. And then when the body language experts say that, you know, these guys aren't telling the truth. I'm going to go with the old-fashioned body language experts.
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, Richard, I understand your feelings this way. I think a lot of people were caught off guard by their statements because it had become something that we've all talked about, just stunk of corruption. The guards fell asleep. The cameras didn't work. There was a lot of circumstantial evidence to say this is not how it went down. But then for some reason, both of them... were convinced enough by somebody or something to go on and make that statement very clearly i don't know the reasons behind it i don't know what happened there there's got to be something there richard i appreciate your call and i appreciate everyone who supports the work of the aclj i appreciate everyone who fights with our legal team who is part of it whether you need help At ACLJ.org slash help, we want to make sure we're there for you. We can't be there, legal or media, hand in hand. We can't be there without your support, your ongoing support. So many of you give on that monthly recurring basis, even Pat. Go to ACLJ.org right now. Become an ACLJ champion if you can. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
This Memorial Day, we honor the legacy of those who served and sacrificed for our freedom by sharing the indelible stories of America's veterans. Our focus today is on Medal of Honor recipient Eddie Rickenbacker, whose life story embodies the American spirit of independence, resilience, and exceptionalism. Through interviews, narratives, and historical insights, discover how Rickenbacker's bravery not only won him the nation's highest military award but also paved the way for advancements in aviation and set a high standard for entrepreneurial success.
SPEAKER 09 :
World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and our other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Check out the website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you're there. That goes out on Sundays. My email is Kim at Kim Munson. That's M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. I appreciate all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms. That's KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. You can say Alexa, play KLZ. And then everything is on Spotify and iTunes as well. It is Memorial Day. It's a day to stop and reflect about those that gave all or at least some. There are those that came home that have been injured. And so it's a time to stop and reflect about the sacrifices that have been made for our liberty. And so it's a day sometime today. Sit down. with your family your kids your grandkids and just talk about the significance of Memorial Day and so we are pre-recording the show and very pleased to have on the line with me Colonel Bill Rutledge 96 years young he is a retired Air Force Colonel and he's traveled the world he has a Reads extensively, has a great curiosity about people and places and things. And he said for Memorial Day weekend, both for the America's Veterans Story Show and for the Kim Munson Show, let's talk about Medal of Honor recipient Eddie Rickenbacker. And so, Colonel Rutledge, welcome to the show. Well, good morning, Kim. It's good to have you, and it's a really remarkable story. So let's start with Eddie Rickenbacker's story. Where was he born?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, well, Eddie was... First of all, Eddie's mother and father came from the German-speaking part of Switzerland, and they immigrated in the 1880s. And Eddie... was a third of eight children, and he was born in Columbus, Ohio, October the 8th, 1890. And his parents really wanted to be a part of the American society, so they gave all of their eight children English first names. And not only that, when they were in Switzerland, Rickenbacker was spelled slightly different. So when they came to America, by coincidence, people put it down like it sounded to them, B-A-C-K-E-R, and it would have been B-A-C-H-E-R had they stayed in Germany.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. And so he was born in Columbus, and even at a young age, he was really an entrepreneur, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. He felt an obligation to, first of all, to help his family. And so he took a job when he was 10 where he was delivering newspapers, and he got $1 a week for all of his work. And then shortly thereafter, he Actually, when he was 13, he was in the seventh grade. His father was in a working accident and was killed. So Eddie dropped out of school. Now, it's not unique, his experience, because I compare him very often in the aviation field and also especially commercial aviation. And I relate him to people like Edison and Bell and Ford and Chrysler. All of these great, great people, most of them never had a high school education, and certainly they never went to college. And so he had an education until he was 13, and then he became an apprentice as a machinist working with people with a company that was designing and building race cars.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he became really an expert, ultimately, as a mechanic, yes?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, he became so good as a mechanic that they started having him ride in the race car. Now, in the early days, the race cars were designed specifically for that, so they weren't the flat, traditional one that Ford was building and others. But they always had two people in the cab. So there was the driver, and they always had a mechanic with them because sometimes they did cross-country competition as well as a fixed track. And there were occasions when they'd have to get out and just stop, and the mechanic would have to get out and work on the engine. And he became an absolute expert in his field.
SPEAKER 03 :
So ultimately, though, he wanted to also learn to drive, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, right. He was so good at his job, people wanted to keep him as a mechanic, but he wanted to move up and become a driver. So he did, and he moved up. And in his late teens, then he was a driver. And since he also was so good at mechanics, he was in a position to sort of make that transition where you didn't have to have two people in the cab of the car. So he was, again, a pioneer in early race driving. And he competed throughout the Midwest. And in those days, normally you'd pay some money to enter the competition. And the winner got the money. It wasn't like it is today where they scale it down and the winner gets the largest piece of the cash. In those days, if you came in second, that's too bad. No money.
SPEAKER 03 :
Interesting. And so he did end up racing at the Indianapolis 500, which that race is always over Memorial Day weekend.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, he did, and he became very interested in doing it. And he was really ready to In 1917, by this time he was 27 years old. He'd had a lot of driving experience. And in May of that year, he was in Indianapolis preparing his car to go into the Memorial Day race competition. When he got a call from an old friend who was on the staff of General Pershing, And the friend said that General Pershing wanted to have a particular driving pool of experienced drivers to help move him around and other members of his general officer staff. So Eddie talked to him and he said, well, you know, I'm going to be racing next week. So if you would just let me do that, then I'd be ready to go. And the man who was a major on Pershing's staff, he said, Eddie, we're leaving tomorrow from New York, and if you're not ready to be on the ship, you're not going with the First Division. So Eddie said, I will be there. He hung up, and he went straight down and got on the trains and moved as fast as he could to New York and got there in time enough to get aboard ship.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. So it's such a fascinating story and really a story of American exceptionalism as well. And we get to have these great shows and these great stories because of wonderful sponsors. And I'm blessed to work with amazing people as sponsors of the show. And I'm so pleased to welcome Jody Hinzey as a new sponsor of the show. And we are pre-recording for Memorial Day. And Jody Henze, welcome. And Memorial Day is really special to you, yes?
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
So thank you. And that's why it is so important on Memorial Day. to stop and reflect i know people like to get together with friends barbecues there's sales at the stores but it's it's more than that it is actually really to stop and reflect about those that have given their last full measure of devotion for our country so can you give us some details on what happened
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SPEAKER 03 :
Well, boy, this really makes Memorial Day even more important to hear your story. And that had to be really difficult. And I think that's the thing about Memorial Day. I was at an event recently where I was talking with General Joe Arbuckle, and he said there were 97,000 Americans that gave their lives in the Korean War and Vietnam War. And they leave behind wives and children. And we take it so for granted, our liberty these days, Jodi, that it stops me in my tracks to think about the sacrifice of your family.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. I was 14 at the time. I have an identical twin sister and another sister who was living with my dad. And Yeah, it was shocking, and we'll never forget it. In fact, my dad left a memory that my older sister now serves in the Navy, and I'm grateful for her service as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. And we actually are pre-recording this show for Memorial Day weekend and for Memorial Day. And also because Eddie Rickenbacker was a Medal of Honor recipient. So a military career as well. We thought it appropriate that we would broadcast this interview both for America's Veterans Stories on Sunday and then for the Kim Munson Show on Monday. And so pleased to have on the line with me Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, 96 years young. Amazing curiosity about people and places and things and reads extensively. And we're talking about Eddie Rickenbacker. And really quite a career. So as we mentioned in the previous segment, Eddie Rickenbacker volunteered in late May 1917 to become a part of General Pershing's American Expeditionary Force. And he was selected because of his automobile driving skills and his exceptional mechanical ability. And so he gets to New York and they get on the ship. So then what happened, Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, when he got to New York and he was about to go aboard the ship, one of the senior officers and I think it was a full colonel had the authority to designate the military rank or grade that they would have so they designated him as a sergeant and of course we know we have privates and corporals and then sergeants so he was a sergeant and as he got aboard ship they looked at the stripes on his uniform and checked their records, and they said, okay, you're a sergeant, so you're going to be down in the hold with all of the other enlisted men. So he went down there, and it was crowded. It was smoky. There was oil fumes around. The food was terrible, and he didn't like it. So he went up on the deck, and he came across another old friend who he had known in the automobile business and um and he said where are you staying you're not with us he said oh i've got my private cabin and he said well why he said i'm a sergeant you're a sergeant he said yeah eddie but i'm a i'm a sergeant first class and um eddie said well i ought to be also and he said well You aren't. And he'd say, well, Eddie said, well, how can I do that? He said, you'll have to talk to the colonel. So he did. He went to the colonel. He said, so and so is he has a private quarters and he's up on the main deck. And it's very nice and it's terrible down the hold. So I want you to promote me. So he did. And he promoted him. And by that second night, Eddie had his own stateroom. And this was sort of the respect he had with his seniors because he was very good, but he was also very direct. And he made it very clear that he was not happy down in the hold area.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I love the initiative of him finding out how to change things and to change it. So then he gets over to Europe. What happens then?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, then the 1st Division went over, and they were there for several months while they were preparing to get involved actually in the combat. And Pershing refused to let... the Americans be integrated into the French force or into the English. Both of those wanted to be having American units coming in to replace their units that were decimated by the war. And he said, no, we will fight as a unit, and we will be the American Expeditionary Force, and we will not be ready for a few months. So they went through a formative period. And Eddie then was working with other drivers. And of course, he was the best mechanic in the whole bunch. So he did not actually drive for General Pershing. Many people often thought he was. It was Pershing's motor pool driving drivers. But he was so good that he was selected by Billy Mitchell, who was a brigadier and who was in charge of the Army Air Corps, to be his driver so that whenever he went out, he wanted Eddie. And one of the interesting stories was that they were up near the front and it was muddy and bad roads and it was night and dangerous to be out, so Eddie was driving and they got into this area with a lot of mud, and their car stopped. And he got out, and General Mitchell was very concerned, and Eddie said, well, I'll check it out. So he was so good, he found out what the problem was. He actually developed a replacement part that he put back in there And he got the engine started, and they got out, and they moved. So this was the caliber of an individual he was. He was creative, and he always took initiative. So he got the reputation of being extremely good with engines. And because of this and because of his affiliation with General Mitchell, then he was actually assigned to one of the airplane squadrons it was being formed the 94th and he then became the principal mechanic for the aircraft engines and when he did this they just sort of centralized their maintenance because of his skill and eddie then approached the major, who later would become one of the chief of staff of the Air Force 20 years later. And he talked to the major and he said, well, if I'm going to be working on these engines, I ought to know how to fly. And he said, but you're too valuable. And Eddie insisted, and he kept insisting. So finally, because of his persuasiveness, the major agreed to let him go to a French flying school now Eddie didn't speak French but but Eddie was a fast learner and so he went to the school he learned how to be a pilot and he had promised he would come back which he did so after he'd gone and came back then he learned to fly and he would fly around a little bit in non-combat areas And then the class of Americans that he had been in were sent away to go to gunnery school, and Eddie didn't go. But the reason he didn't go, because the major said he was too valuable as a mechanic. So Eddie again started his persuasiveness and kept telling him, look, I'm going to be working with these people. Yes, I'm working on the mechanical part, but I want to be able to qualify as a combat pilot. So if the opportunity or the need is there, I can help our mission. So he did. He went down to a French school, which is down in the southern part of the country. And it was designed specifically to teach people how to use machine guns on aircraft. So he learned that, and then he came back. And so when he got back, it was now the winter of 1917, 1918. So he had to have some more opportunities to fly before he ever was exposed to combat.
SPEAKER 03 :
So in the year 1918, though, he did do combat missions, and he ultimately was awarded the Medal of Honor for those, yes?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, but that was years later. What happened was he had to have enough training to be confident, so he didn't go out. A lot of the pilots, the new pilots, were shot down in their first missions, and he flew enough with an experienced person and actually he was the best American pilot. He'd been born in France and he took Eddie sort of under his wing, so to speak, and worked with him one-on-one where he would take his plane, Eddie would take his plane. They were flying French made Newports and so they trained. And then Eddie had a first chance for combat the last week in April, 1918. So he did his flying. He was up and around, and he got his first aircraft shot down that time. But it was a harrowing experience, and he was learning a lot because that's a situation where you either learn fast or you're shot down and you're gone. So Shortly after he had had some combat experience, he had some sort of a respiratory problem. So Eddie was actually in and out of the hospital for almost two months. So May and June were basically gone. So then he came back, and now he's got about four months to work with, July, August, September, October. Within four months... Eddie had become the squadron commander and had shot down 26 German aircraft.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, that is amazing. And again, this would be like the old-time dogfights, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, absolutely. Yes, for sure. And he learned, he really learned a lot from the Germans because the Germans were the ones that developed the aircraft attack program, and he was very observant of their procedures, and he used a lot of the tactics that the Luftwaffe was using then. Of course, then it wasn't called the Luftwaffe. It was only named that later. But nevertheless, he was flying during the period after most of the German aces had actually been shot down. because of constant exposure. But nevertheless, there were still, the German pilots still were more experienced than these young Americans. One thing was interesting about, that they had to make a waiver on, and this is a flashback. Eddie, when he wanted to be a pilot, the age requirements was 27. You could not fly if you were that old, I mean, if you're over that age. I thought it was 25. I'm sorry, 25, correct. And, of course, he was born in 1890, so he was already 27. But what happened was the doctor who did the physical exam was a good friend of Eddie's. So he just changed the record to show that Eddie was born really in 1892. So... It shows, again, a little of his initiative and how his good friends helped get him into combat.
SPEAKER 03 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. I'm talking with Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, 96 years young. We're talking about Eddie Rickenbacker, just really an amazing man, both military and an entrepreneur. We are pre-recording this for both Memorial Day and for America's Veterans Stories for the day before. So Colonel Rutledge, it's 1918, April. Eddie Rickenbacker in combat flight, he gets his first kill on that. And then he was in and out of the hospital because he had some respiratory stuff going on. And so then he ended up having four months left because then the war came to an end. Right. And a rather remarkable record that he had 26 additional, a total of 26, I guess, Germans that he shot down, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. And also, he had moved up where he was a squadron commander. And so when the war ended and he came back home, he was certainly the aviation hero. And also because of his close affiliation with General Billy Mitchell, he maintained contact with those people who were still flyers in the military. But he was also recognizing that in order to have a good pilot and a number of pilots for any kind of future combat, that we needed to develop commercial aviation for many reasons. But one of the reasons, of course, was to gain experience as pilot. So he was doing that. Then he also went back and he bought the Indianapolis Speedway. It was on the market. It was going to be sold. And it looked like it was going to be converted into homes and businesses. and he was very good working with financial people so he got backers and put put together enough money to buy the property and he always claimed it because of the importance of the facility that it was one of the greatest test places for the automobile industry this is long before they had big outdoor tracks like they do in Arizona now. But the race tracks were great. And the people, of course, in the tire business really promoted and encouraged racing there because they had to change their tires a lot when they were doing the Indianapolis 500. So he bought that so they could continue the procedure, which is still today. On Memorial Day weekend, it is the elite race in America. And so he saved it. And then the same time, he decided because of his mechanical skills that he wanted to go into the auto production field. So he actually did. And he set up factories. He got people that were going to be dealers for him around the country. because he'd had some experience like that before the war. And they actually produced Rickenbacker automobiles, many thousands, during the 1920s. But what happened was because of the great crash and depression as it started in 29, they just didn't have enough cash to survive. So He had to go out of business, and then he started directing his attention more to commercial aviation, especially he affiliated with the very small airport airplane operations in Florida. And then he eventually switched the name to Eastern Airlines, and he became the executive and eventually the owner of Eastern Airlines. Now, when he was going through this transition, Roosevelt was elected in 1932. He took office on March 4, 1933. And he was trying to figure out how to save money. And there had been some movement of airmail by commercial carriers. And that seemed to be fairly safe because they would only do it during the daytime and where they could see They used to follow railroad routes or paved roads. They did all sorts of things because aviation was in its infancy on the commercial aspect. So he worked a lot with that. Roosevelt decided in the spring of 1934 that instead of paying commercial contractors to fly the mail, he was going to have the Army Air Corps do that. Well, the Army Air Corps didn't have nearly as good of planes as the commercials. They were still using training planes left over from World War I, plus the fact they didn't know enough about flying at night, they didn't know the routes well, and they didn't have enough flying time. So consequently, when Roosevelt directed that happen... He canceled all the contracts with the commercial carriers and gave the assignment to the Army. And Lindbergh, along with Rickenbacker, both made public announcements to the effect that this was terribly dangerous, that it shouldn't be done, and for some of the reasons I've already mentioned. And so what happened in the spring of 1934, about a month or so, they had enough crashes. They lost 12 new young pilots in crashes. And I can remember, because I was very young, I was in the first grade, but I was in Georgia, and one of the pilots was from a town down there. It was from Albany, Georgia. And they used to have articles in the paper every day about them. This man who'd been in a crash in Florida, he was an Army Reserve. But what his health condition was, how he was recovering, his name was Mason Reed. And I just kept hearing people talk about, how is Mason Reed doing today? How's Mason Reed? Well, after a few weeks, Roosevelt realized that he had made a terrible mistake. So he backed off. and took the Army out of the mail business and went back for commercial contracting. And that continued on until today. It's done by commercial purposes, not by military aviation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and Roosevelt kind of held a grudge, didn't he?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, he held a real grudge. He held a grudge against Rickenbacker and also, of course, against Lindgaard. Both of them, Lindbergh had been designated a colonel in the U.S. Army Air Corps Reserve, and Rickenbacker had been, he served on active duty as a captain during World War I. But after the war, through the reserve, he was promoted also to full colonel in the Army Air Corps. And he was presented, of course, with his Medal of Honor many years after the war. But these were the two most important pilots recognized by the American public. And when they both came out in opposition to Roosevelt, it had an impact. So when we got to World War II, both of them wanted to come back and be on active duty, and Roosevelt refused. He wouldn't let them do it. It was just chip on his shoulder.
SPEAKER 03 :
So how did... We'd done that show on Lindbergh. How did Rickenbacker end up serving in World War II then?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, what happened was he had gotten to know a number of the general officers, of course, from the First World War who had become generals then. And... Hap Arnold now was the chief of staff for the Army Air Corps. And Hap Arnold knew how good Rickenbacker was. So when they started the military draft in 1940 and started building new fields all around the country, he approached Rickenbacker and said, I would like for you to go and inspect each one of these new bases. And what he did, he took him into the Secretary of War because there was no Air Force that's separate at that time. And Stimson was the Secretary of War. So he told him what he wanted to do. So Stimson gave him a letter that he could use and show to the base commanders at all of the new Air Force bases being built that he was speaking on behalf of the Secretary of the Army, and had the authority to direct any changes necessary to make the bases and the training staff more efficient. So that's what he did. And he went all over America, did a marvelous job. And he was so successful there that they even sent him to some of the other areas. And then even when Russia got into the war, in 1941. In June of 1941, when they were invaded, we started sending aircraft over to assist them. And Eddie went to Russia, representing the U.S., to help the Russians understand how to fly the American fighter aircraft. And he also had the opportunity to see what the Russians were doing as far as their aircraft construction. So he was what we used to call a tech rep, technical representative, and to monitor and to come back and to share what he had learned in the field with the Army Air Corps. And it was very important. Now, it was so important, and now we get a situation where Japan has invaded, I mean, Japan has attacked Pearl Harbor December 7, 1941. In 1942, when Corregidor fell in the Philippines, MacArthur was sent by direction from Roosevelt, was sent to Australia. And he was to be the commander of that whole theater with the Army. But the Secretary of the Army wanted to relay some confidential information to MacArthur. So he elected to have Eddie go directly to talk to the general. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Colonel Rutledge, let's keep that as a cliffhanger. And also, before we get into that remarkable story, I also wanted to ask you about 1941 when he was in that plane crash. So let's keep those two things as cliffhangers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we can do that. We should do a flashback on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
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From the mountains to the prairies to the ocean.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Happy Memorial Day to all of you. It's a day to remember and reflect upon those memories. that have given their lives for our liberty. And something that you might consider doing is the USMC Memorial Foundation will be sponsoring an event out at the memorial at 2 o'clock on Memorial Day. So be sure and check out their website. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I'm talking with 96-year-young Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, about Eddie Rickenbacker. And we're getting ready to talk about when he was to take the message down to General MacArthur. But let's go back earlier in the year. I think it is, I guess, the year before, February 1941. What happened to Eddie?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Eddie had become the chief executive officer for Eastern Airlines. And Eastern had become the largest commercial carrier in America before the start of our involvement in World War II. So he was a passenger aboard one of the DC-3s, which were the real advancement in commercial aviation for passengers. And he was just a passenger aboard on his way to Atlanta, coming out of New York. And so there was no bad weather or anything going on, and nothing was unexpected. And they were approaching Atlanta, and something happened as far as the technical aspects of the aircraft and communication of the grounds, because a lot of it was experimental in those days. Anyhow, what happened was that the pilots... and the co-pilots were both killed in the crash that happened in North Atlanta. And it was finally after a flight investigation, they found that their altimeter had been wrong. They thought they were at an altitude of about 2,000 feet higher than they really were. So they flew right into the forest. And a terrible crash happened. And many of the people aboard were killed. And Eddie was, it was a miracle that he wasn't killed. He was in the wreckage. And the people came out as quickly as they could get there. But it took them about an hour, an hour and a half to come to the wreck site. Then the emergency people were trying to excavate and get their survivors who could walk, get them out of the way first. And then they heard that Eddie was still breathing. So it took them over an hour to use cutters and things to get him out. He was so enshrined with metal all around him. So they got him out. They put him in the ambulance. They all went to the hospital. When they got to the hospital, the doctors who were on call that night in the emergency room They looked at Eddie and they thought, this guy's not going to make it. They said, put him over there to the side. So they just wanted to work on the ones that looked like they had a chance to survive. The good news for Eddie was that Eddie knew the doctor who was in charge of the hospital. And the doctor was alerted of the crash. So he came over and he arrived there safely. within an hour or so after Eddie got to the hospital. And he asked, where's Eddie? And they pointed out to him over there, well, he's over there with a group we don't think will make it. Well, the doctor in charge went over and became Eddie's personal physician, and he did everything he could, and he saved Eddie's life. But Eddie had Many, many broken bones and a fractured skull and things which would normally kill anyone. And so the doctor told him, he says, you're going to stay here and we're going to treat you. And he said, I believe that you will need to be here for eight months. And Eddie said, I don't think so. And in four months, Eddie got up and walked out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Amazing. Amazing. So let's get over to he walked out, and we're now getting into World War II. So now what happened?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, then we've talked about his visits to all of our air bases and acting as a tactical consultant. But he then... was asked directly by the Secretary of War to take a personal oral message to General MacArthur, who was now down in Australia. So he flew to Hawaii, and when he got to Hawaii, there was a B-17 available to fly him from there on down towards Australia. Well, they took off. There was Eddie and seven other members of the crew And Eddie was the passenger. And they were going. They had their headings. Everything was going fine. But then their radio communications didn't work right. And the long and the short of it was that their contact with the islands that they were supposed to be able to stop at and refuel, they got lost. And After a while, it looked like there's no way they'd make any kind of a landing on surface. So the pilot told them we're going to have to crash land. So they moved their supplies of water and also their supplies of emergency food, and they moved it to a particular spot on the plane. And so they had to crash into the ocean. So they came down. Made a good landing. But in their panic to get out of the plane, they forgot the food and the water. So they went out and inflated their three little rafts that were done. And so they all got in those. They got off. And when they got safely away from the airplane, it went under. And suddenly they realized, hey, we don't have any water and we don't have any food. And yet there's eight of us floating around out here and nobody knows where we are. And so what they were doing, they realized they were going to be dependent upon rain for water and try to fish. And so one of the first notable things happened. Eddie very smartly kept on his coat and regular suit and a big felt hat. Now a lot of the people had thrown a lot of their personal clothing item away because they thought it would be easier for them to swim, to swim away from the plane. That was stupid because it also exposed them to terrible sun. So one day, and this is shortly after they'd gotten out there floating around, A bird came, a seagull, and landed on top of Eddie's head. And nobody moved. Nobody said anything. They didn't want to frighten the bird. So Eddie real quickly, wham, on top of his head. And he killed the bird. And so they took the bird and divided it up into eight parts. And they ate the bird. And, of course, there was no way to cook the bird or anything like that. They probably picked some of the feathers off. But nevertheless, that sustained them for a while. And then they also rigged up some devices with some strings and some sort of hooks they made that they could use and try to catch a fish once in a while. And then they had rain. And the rain is what saved them. And they were floating in the drift. They were lost, and the newspapers didn't cover much about it because it was a very highly classified mission. But they did later report that Rickenbacker was missing on a combat flight to Australia. So we knew this. But 22 days before... One of the aircraft, which was an amphibious plane from one of the smaller islands way out in the middle of the Pacific, flew over their area and identified them. And it took them another 24 hours to go back and get some other amphibious aircraft to come down and pick them up and take them all back to this island. And so then all the people wanted to go back to Hawaii. But Eddie said, no. I'm going on to Australia because I have a mission to perform, and it's verbal. So he did continue on, and he went and visited with MacArthur and relayed the information from the Secretary of the Army.
SPEAKER 03 :
Remarkable. And we've got a couple of minutes left. What would you say would be the big takeaways regarding Eddie Rickenbacker that you want our listeners to hear?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think... The most important thing to me was, well, the amazing thing is that I talked to many people that I've known during the last few weeks. And I'd say, do you know anything about Eddie Rickenbacker? They said, who's he? I couldn't find hardly anybody who'd ever even heard of Eddie Rickenbacker. And I told them a little bit about the story and that he was the most famous American fighter ace in World War I. But I also tried to equate him with other people of his era. And that's when I mentioned that he was on a par with people who they recognized. In other words, Edison and Bell and Ford and Chrysler, all of whom had no degrees. And you could go all the way back to Benjamin Franklin. People mostly didn't know anything about him either. But all these people did not have formal educations but they were leaders in their field. Nobody else could have taught them because they were inventing and creating. And he was, Eddie was a person who was creative especially in business and organization for commercial aviation. In other words, he was to commercial aviation. what Billy Mitchell was to the development of military aviation.
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Well, Colonel Rutledge, I so thank you for all of the research that you've done on this. And thank you so much for sharing this. And our quote for the end of the show is from Eddie Rickenbacker. He said, individuality, and independence. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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Thank you for listening to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure to tune in again next Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m. here on KLZ 560 and KLZ 100.7.
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In this moving episode, Angie Austin and her guests delve into the world of parenting, faith, and personal growth. Discover how Michelle's word of the week, 'anniversary', ties into significant moments of joy, sorrow, and life-changing decisions. Featuring an insightful interview with Jeff Schott, learn about the transformative approach of the 'One Rule Home' and how it challenges traditional parenting methods for a more loving and authentic family dynamic.
SPEAKER 06 :
welcome to the good news with angie austin now with the good news here's angie hello there friend angie austin here with the good news the good news is i'm being joined by my good friends beatrice bruno and michelle ron as i am weekly and it's been years you guys we've been doing this off and on for years welcome to both of you
SPEAKER 01 :
Hey, it's great to be here. Thank you. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love it. Every morning, Michelle and I get a text from Beatrice, and it's a prayer and some words of wisdom. And then Michelle will join in sometimes and, you know, say something encouraging or ask for a prayer for someone else. That's a really neat, like, way to wake up and nice support network. You know, Beatrice gets up so early. Yeah, right. She doesn't. And I, oddly enough, get up when she does, but I go back to sleep because all those years of getting up at like 2.45 or 3 for the morning show, I still wake up that early, but then I go back to sleep. And so, you know, in the morning at like 7.30 this morning, I was like dead out. So I'm not up for the day. I'm just up temporarily. But it's a great way to wake up with both of you offering encouragement.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. Amen. And you got to figure, Angie, the way the world is right now, we need encouragement early in the day because we never know what we're going to encounter as we go through the day.
SPEAKER 06 :
So true. And for me, it's just a great reminder. I really appreciate it. I feel like sometimes you guys spend more time in the word and quiet time. And, you know, I was this morning, I had to juggle five interviews and two practices drop off and drop off and pick up at basketball practice, swim team practice. And then speaking of needing encouragement, Beatrice, you know, you lost your husband to a heart attack in his very early 60s. And Not going to mention any names, but close family friends of ours, their sibling, we've gotten to know them over the years of like swim team and sports and softball. We've played a lot of sports with both of these families, and they're related, these two families. So we got word that the father had a heart attack. And I looked at my husband and I said, you know, the last time we played in a team with them, their kids were pretty young. They've got four kids. And I said, he can't be more than about 40, 42, you know, now, because I knew they were younger than we are, you know. And come to find out, he was 42. And it just was heartbreaking to me that these four kids, you know, seeing what Beatrice went through with her kids, her four kids fully grown, and then what she went through, I just, my heart was just breaking for the mom and for the kids and... I just thought, boy, you just never know what the world's going to bring you. We just saw them last week at volleyball, and we're so excited because we're swimming with them again this summer with both of the families. And they're the kind of families that you know. They have big volleyball parties, and one of the grandparents has a pool, and they have that little 7-Eleven hot dog turner that twirls the hot dogs. It's the family you always want to party with, and they always invite you. And so there's a lot of family support, but you just never know what the day is going to bring you.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, you don't. And see, that's why we can't be so frivolous about life, you know, and take life so lightly, because we don't know today nor tomorrow, Angie, whether we're going to see another day or not. We really don't. And the way times are right now, we've got to encourage each other. We've got to keep lifting each other up because we never know. We really don't. Time is just time is so precious and we need to look at it like that. We really do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and spending it, how you spend that time, and if you're valuing it and spending it wisely. Now, every week, Michelle comes up with a word of the week for us because she's still got that teacher mind. I know you write something up, don't you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I do, but that's for my help. But my prayer is always, if this isn't the word that you want, Father, put something else in. And if this is the word, then please, this is your message and not mine. And you have given a perfect inter... What do I want to say? Introduction to the word for what I have, Angie. And so the word this week is anniversary.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I love it. Yesterday was my 19th anniversary.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wait, you're interrupting my thoughts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, goodness. Sorry, teacher.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because my first sentence is happy day after anniversary, dear Angie. And 19 years, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
19 years. And thank you. So how far along are you? 55. And Beatrice, where did you get to? What would this be for you?
SPEAKER 01 :
This would be 33. 33 this year. Yeah, it would be 33.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm aiming for both of those. Amen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you know, and our thought when we hear the word anniversary is of joy and celebration. And each one of us, I bet, can probably bring to mind a joyous anniversary. But then on the other side, there are many of us who are able to pull up an anniversary that is written forever in our heart. And that's one of sorrow and one of pain. And Ms. B, I know that you could share the going home to Jesus date of your precious husband. And my point is, can each of us pull up the anniversary of when we accepted Jesus? We may take that rather lightly, or we may say, well, no, I can do that. No, I really can't pull up a date. But I do. I have given my life to Jesus. But have we? Have we really done that with him personally? And I read an article or heard an article sometime soon before that. It said there are a lot of people who have religion issues. But there are not that many of us who have a relationship with Christ. And that's all the difference in the world for when we will be going home to Jesus. So my prayer is, and talking to that listener out there that has not made that decision, but know that it is a decision that will affect your life starting right now. So maybe today... Maybe today, the anniversary date of a relationship now, be made with Jesus. And what a glorious day this will be. And Ms. B and Angie and I will pray over this date for any of you that want to take that step today. And all it means is, Lord Jesus, I ask you into my heart. I know that I want to surrender my life to you. I don't know what that means. I'm a little fearful of what that means because I can't do a lot of things, but God knows. And Jesus knows that he can hold you by the hand. He can take you and you will be ready to enter into heaven. And for Angie, when you're talking about the father who is so young, we don't know what, what five minutes from now is. And, It is the time now to take Jesus into our heart. So I pray that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Amen.
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Amen, Beatrice. Wow. You know, and Michelle, or Mimi, as I call you, I do remember the day and the hour that I received Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. It was May the 15th, 1991. I was stationed in Fort Dix, New Jersey. I was at home at 3 Shreve Street, Wrightstown, New Jersey, and it had been a rough week. It was just, it was a horrible week and God had given me a person. We were best friends. We were drill sergeants together at Fort Dix. And at lunchtime every day, Monday through Friday, we would go out and we would. have our lunch outside in the park area on Fort Dix, New Jersey. And God started having her to minister to me. She would bring me these little booklets by Kenneth Hagan and John Osteen. And, you know, these little books and just little short books. And she would have me to read these books. And I read the books. And she asked me one time, I think it was a couple of days before I received my salvation. She said to me, she said, if you were to die today, Where would you go? And, you know, being very flippant, I said I'd go straight to hell because I knew I wasn't living for God. And so but that evening when I got home, God had just he had weighed on my heart. And I went into my bedroom. I told my daughter it was just my oldest girl and I at the time. And I said, I said, look, I'm going into my bedroom. I don't want to be disturbed. I got to do something. And I went in my bedroom and I walked around. I was walking around in circles in my bedroom for a minute. And it was about 630 that evening, 630 or seven o'clock that evening. And as I walked around and I said, I don't know what this is. I don't know this Jesus. I've heard you a long time in my life. I don't know you. And finally, I got down on my knees beside my bed. And then I heard this voice and it was an audible voice that said to me, no, you need to lay flat out prostate on the on the floor. And I laid prostate on the floor and everything just came up out of me. I started confessing everything, every sin I could think of, y'all, because I knew that I had done stuff in my life that I needed to. If this Jesus was real, if this God was real, I was going to give them everything because I couldn't take it anymore. And I laid on that floor and I said, Lord, I said, God, if you're really real, I don't know what you want with me, but I'm willing to try you to give you my life. And I said, Lord Jesus, I've been hearing about you for a long time. I said, but I don't know if you want me. I don't even know why you want me, what you could ever possibly do with me. I'm a bad person, but I confess all my sins to you today. Now, Lord Jesus, come into my heart and be the Lord of my life. And when I said that, I started crying. And I mean, everything just just came up out of me through those tears. And I tell people today that there's probably still a wet spot there at three streets in that bedroom on the bedroom floor because I just cried it all out. But when I came up and that's the most important part, when I got up off of that floor, I felt free. And I have never turned around from it because I knew at that point that God was real and that Jesus was here for a reason. He came and died for me. He knew I was going to do all that stuff that I did in my previous life. He knew I was going to do all that stuff. And yet he died for me to give me a chance to give me a new perspective on my life. And so we're talking to somebody that's listening today. God is waiting for you to turn your life around. And yes, he is real. And yes, Jesus is real. And he died for you specifically. OK, he knew you were going to do all that stuff. He did. He did. But he God made a way with his only begotten son. that whosoever would believe in him would not perish but have eternal life. And that's what I got that day. And I have not my life has not been the same since then. And I have not gone back to any of that stuff because I just didn't want to. Because if Jesus, this man who he was divinity, he was deity and he came down in the form of flesh to die for me. Oh, baby, I got to live for him.
SPEAKER 06 :
I love your story. I just have to add that when I was, you know, in my, like, 12, 13, 12 all the way to, you know, 18, I either lived on my own or in foster care or in low-income housing with my mom or I had a brother who was mentally ill who physically assaulted me, so I went to other places because he'd gotten out of the Marines. He was... crazy, kicked me in the face with his combat boots. And I just couldn't be around him anymore. Like legally, even he wasn't supposed to be in my home. So I lived in these other places. And when I was in like a foster care situation, when I was 12 to 13, I was going to church. And I remember that at the in our was like a Bible study class I was taking with other kids my age. I think I was about seventh grade. The pastor said, who here thinks they're going to go to heaven? And everybody raised their hands except for me and the fat bully boy who was super mean. And I'm like, well, you're not going to heaven because you're a big fat bully, you know. And so I raised my hand because I thought I wasn't good enough to go, you know. And so I became a Christian at that church. I was saved there when I was 13. And that was life-changing for me because I had so many hard years in front of me. And I told you both yesterday, because I've been married 19 years, I'm the only one married in my family. There were six of us in my immediate family. And just the fact that I have a happy marriage, 19 years, it's a miracle. And I know it's all because of the fact that I was saved and that I was remolded by the Lord. Ladies, we're out of time. Beatrice and Michelle, you can find them both by going to my website, EmailMeets, AngieAustin.org. They're both speakers, and I love you both.
SPEAKER 01 :
Love you, Angie. I love you, too. Thank you.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News. Real excited to have Jeff Schott on the show with us. His book is The One Rule Home, Destroy the World's Influence in Your Kid's Life. He is also the founder of Revive Family and One Rule Home. He has a bachelor's in marketing and a master's in biblical leadership and theology. And he's been called, I love this, the adolescent whisperer by parents and ministry leaders. And after talking with more than 3,000 kids... He has concluded that much of what he believed and read relating to parenting was causing problems within families. Can't wait to talk about that. Welcome, Jeff. It's great to be with you. All right, let's start with just, you know, you've interviewed all these kids. What have you learned? What are they telling you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my goodness. I learned so much. That's such a global question. But I learned everything from why kids were struggling when they left their homes to the why kids were actually hiding things from and lying to their parents. And that was probably the most dark thing for me as a parent to realize is that our kids, by the time they were about age six, seven and eight, began to realize that if they could hide something they did wrong from their parents, they wouldn't face the music, they wouldn't face a consequence, they wouldn't lose their phone or whatever, you know, timeout or whatever was implemented. And so what we found from talking to kids of all different ages, especially in adolescents and teens, was they were highly motivated to lie to us so that they didn't face the music, which was so opposite of the way I had been trained to parent and the way I was actually parenting my kids when I started this research.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's interesting, too, because not only do they not face the music, but their parents, they believe, will not be let down, that they won't think less of them if they lie and don't fess up to what they've done. Then their parents' opinion of them won't decrease.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. That was so true. What we saw was one of the things they hated most, especially with parents that weren't as harsh with the consequences. was they hated disappointing their parents. They hated it when their parents, if their parents were fight or flight, if they were flight and they would kind of flee or withdraw when their kids did something wrong, that seemed to actually hurt them in some ways more than the other side of the equation. disappointing their parents really seem to weigh heavily on many of the kids' hearts.
SPEAKER 06 :
I can totally see that. With our kids, maybe I use a little white lie to get them to tell the truth, but I've got three teens now, but when they were little, I would say, you know, I'm going to check the cameras, so I'm going to find out the truth, so you might as well tell me now, and then you won't get in as much trouble. And then the other one that I distinctly remember is one of them had a bite mark on their arm, and I told them, you know, before I check the cameras, I want to let you know that I'm sure you've seen those crime shows where they can look at the bite marks and determine whose teeth they are, and those are not anyone else's teeth. I believe you bit yourself. And come to find out, he had bit himself in order to get his sister in trouble, and he fessed up to me, but I would always use the, I'm going to check the cameras, but then we didn't have any.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what was really funny for me was as I changed my approach, you know, really studied Jesus and how Jesus led and how he got the woman at the well to open up and how he handled the adulterous woman. The fact that he loved and handled things very kindly and gently changed the culture of our home such that my kids would come to me and voluntarily open up. I didn't have to use threats. I didn't have to use coercion. They would come to me. I remember my oldest daughter, who was nine, who By age nine, with the traditional approach to parenting, she was defensive. She would deny things. She was trying to avoid the consequence because I started as a growing kid's God's way parent. And so, you know, we had effectively shut down her heart. What was cool is as we did the research and began to change everything in our homes, I'll never forget the day right before my very first sermon. I'm scared to death because seminary has assigned me to a church of 2,000 for my first sermon, and everything ends on time. And I'm trying to get my sermon to end on time practicing, and this huge ruckus breaks out upstairs, and I just want to scream through the ceiling, shut up, to my kids, because I'm under so much pressure. Jesus taps me on the shoulder, the Spirit convicts me and says, Hey, you know, you're speaking on shepherding kids tomorrow. So I had to go upstairs and I walked in and there's water everywhere and there's this mess. And instead of reacting and saying who did what, I just started cleaning everything up. I served. And they went deathly silent. They went deathly silent watching this whole mess. OK, as I cleaned it up and got the soap out of Paul's eyes because they were screaming and yelling at each other. And I turned around and walked out, didn't say a thing, and went back downstairs and started firing up the projector and setting the timer to try and get this thing on time. And my now 11 and a half year old daughter, who would never admit she was wrong, followed me down the stairs and said, Dad, I think I set a bad example for Paul.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
And so we sat down on the sofa and I said, so how did you do that? And she said, well, we were washing our horses and we didn't use soap. Still afraid of the old bad, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then she said, and then Paul, we finished and Paul wanted to wash his horses. And then we came in and saw the huge mess he was making. And then he got soap in his eyes. And, you know, then we started fighting. And I said, you know, Heather, I don't think you did anything wrong. She goes, what? Really? I said, you know. What happened was you responded to Paul the way we used to respond to you when you did things wrong. And so we taught you to do that. And I apologize for that. We're doing it differently now. And it's a lot more enjoyable around our house. The conflicts decreased a ton. But, you know, maybe you need to learn from what we're doing now related to how you handle things with your brother. And she looked at me and goes, yeah, I think I do. And then I said, you know, and you could do me a huge favor. And she says, really? I'm like, yeah. Next time Paul wants to wash his horses, show him how to do it without the soap and how to make without making that huge mess. That would be a huge help. And she walked out of there feeling like a million bucks and very close to me. And I had to rewrite the opening to my sermon.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I bet you did. So you're telling me that Jesus wouldn't fib about having the woman at the well, wouldn't fib about having surveillance cameras on her?
SPEAKER 05 :
It would be really tough back then. I don't think they had that technology.
SPEAKER 06 :
Woman at the well, I've got cameras. I'm going to check them. All right. So what is the biggest complaint that kids have about dynamics within the family? Because I definitely would say that there's a fair amount of arguing and reacting with anger. And I know we're supposed to lead with love. So we definitely yell too much in our family, for sure. And we have taught the kids that. So what are kids complaining about within the dynamics of their family? I think that's what my kids would complain about with ours.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think they complain about a number of things. They complain about the expectations, especially as they get older, that they feel so many unspoken but acted out expectations or spoken expectations. They feel like they have to be perfect around their parents. And what we found in the research is this is why they're hiding in their rooms. they hate the conflict as much as we do. It's why they're hiding on their phones, too, by the way, or on video games, is they are trying to avoid interaction with us that will lead to disappointment, yelling, anger, reactions, consequences. So they are actually intentionally making the decision to hide from us and hide in their rooms. And then what they tell us is then they're bored out of their gourds, because when I grew up, at least I could get on a bike at age 10 and ride across You know, Palatine, Illinois, and go to the mall by myself. But today, the fear in parents won't let that happen. So they're trapped in the house. They're trying to avoid us. They're hiding in their room and they get bored out of their gourds. And then they turn to the social media and they turn to the video games. And then we believe that's the problem. And we attack that. That's not the problem. It's the breakdown in the relationship between us and our kids and their sense of safety with us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
And their sense of needing to be perfect for us that's causing them to turn to these social media devices, their phones, as they get bored out of their gourds because they no longer want to hang out and do stuff with us.
SPEAKER 06 :
They don't want to let us down or get in trouble or get yelled at. What do you think kids value most in today's world?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's the interesting part is, you know, in my generation, it was all about truth, knowledge, information. You know, information was power, you know, evidence that demands a verdict, a great title for my generation of people. But this generation of kids values truth, authenticity, community. They basically value relationships far more than truth, knowledge, and information. And it's why they're so much more easily hurt in our family cultures than when we were when I was a kid. And so this fact that they're much more sensitive to the community and authenticity means that the way we've been parenting breaks that even more so in them and hurts them more. And parents are so frustrated. What I'm doing with my kid is so much better than what my parents did, but they still are avoiding me. They're still saying they're hurt by me. They're still telling me I'm a mean parent or a bad parent. You know, whatever the message is they're sending, and it's because of this fundamental change in what they value, which is why leading like Jesus is so important today with kids if we don't want them to be taken away by the world.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so if we lead like Jesus, if we show only love, don't people kind of misread that as not setting boundaries and not being tough enough on the kids? Like you didn't go up and yell at the kids for making the mess, and you showed your daughter love, and she walked away feeling pretty good about herself and was going to react differently, and they're not as afraid to come to you now because they're not going to get screamed at. But people think if they're not tough on the kids and they show only love, that they're not setting boundaries and not being hard enough on them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. I totally agree. And that was my fear when I was doing the research and then realized Jesus' only command was to love one another. And I'm like, wait a minute, that's way too simple. If I do that, my kids will go crazy, you know? And my nine-year-old was already going crazy. So I had that same fear. What I discovered as I studied love is love has a lot of different dimensions that we've lost in our culture. And we don't realize how love actually serves as the most effective boundaries. So when we changed to a one-rule home and started loving each other and listening to each other and seeking to understand each other and understand what was going on underneath the bad behavior, because only 5% of thoughts and emotions are conscious, 95% are unconscious. So when repeated behavior patterns are happening with our kids, it's almost always coming from their unconscious. So they need a safe place for us to help dig in and help them come to realize what's driving that bad behavior. As we made those changes, what was cool, and we taught them about love and how love always protects, this is what happened. One day my son, who was 13 and had really only one friend in this new town we'd moved into and who had encountered a lot of social challenges due to being way behind in his reading because he's dyslexic and some other things, he comes to me and says, Dad, actually calls from school and says, Dad, what do I do? Max, my one friend. has asked me to pee in a cup so he can pass his parents' drug test. He had just been grounded for three months until marijuana cleared his system. And 10 days later, the grounding didn't change the marijuana. There was roots going on underneath that in the unconscious that no one helped Max deal with. And so Max was back to the drugs within 10 days. And he came to my son and said, you're the only person I know that can pass the drug test. My siblings can't pass it. My other friends can't pass it. Um, and so will you pee in a cup for me? And, and, and he calls me and says, dad, if I don't pee in a cup for him, I'll probably lose my one friend. And I said, you know, you're going to have to determine what love looks like for max. And since he understood love and understood the dimensions of love, he said, okay, I'll think about it and I'll get back to you. He called me at the end of the day and he said, dad, I said, what are you going to do? And he goes, well, you know, if Max keeps doing drugs, he's already talking about crossing over to harder drugs. That's not what's best for him. That's not protecting him. So that's not loving him because it's not doing what's best for him. So, Dad, I'm going to tell him no. But I'm really scared I'm going to lose him as a friend, and he was in tears.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm really proud of him. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to have you come back, okay? So, Jeff Schott, give us your website for the One Rule Home. Yes, it's onerulehome.com. Well, that's easy enough. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
In today's episode, we kick off with a detailed market update following Trump’s decision to delay the implementation of EU tariffs for 90 days. This strategic move has led to a robust rally across major indices, with the Dow, NASDAQ, and S&P all experiencing impressive gains. However, the situation is less favorable for gold, which drops sharply amid the trade deal delays. With a backdrop of a volatile last week where Europe’s budget bill and escalating debts were at the forefront, the show delves into the intricacies of market fluctuations and what they mean for investors. The focus then shifts to an in-depth analysis of Japan’s economic standing, specifically the ramifications of losing its title as the world’s top creditor to Germany. This development, alongside rising interest rates in Japan, suggests potential global impacts, especially on market sectors reliant on Japan's carry trade. As Japan grapples with higher borrowing costs, their economic positioning becomes a key narrative to watch. We further dissect the influence of these macroeconomic shifts on high-beta stocks and their potential correlations to changes in Japanese debt yields. Ending on a note of caution, the episode examines the heightened geopolitical tensions with Russia's significant aerial offensive in Ukraine. Utilizing Iranian drones brings another layer of complexity to the geopolitical landscape, especially with the involvement of the US and its allies in the ongoing situation. As stakeholders eye these unfolding events, we emphasize the need for investors to stay vigilant amidst these geopolitical and macroeconomic developments, framing the insights with historical context and future projections.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday. After the long holiday weekend, it is Tuesday, May 27th already. It's Tuesday already. This is the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kite. Our chartered financial analyst, and guess what? We're off to a very good start here so far on this Tuesday to begin a new week after Donald Trump puts on hold for 90 days. That seems to be the pattern. Put it on hold for 90 days. The market rallies, and this time he put the EU tariffs on hold after threatening to raise them to 50%. Last week, I guess that didn't work, so they'll put them on hold. Apparently, they are getting very close to a deal, however, so I think there's good hope there. Right now, the Dow is up 387. That's just under 1%. We're at 41,990 on the Dow. The NASDAQ is flying right now. It's up 337 points or 1.80%. China's taking it on the chin a little bit. A couple of their stocks are down considerably. as they feel that hit from the tariff starting to show up in their earnings reports. S&P up 1.34%, up 78 points. The 10-year is down just a little bit, and the asset class that does not like delays in trade deals, or tariffs is gold. And gold is therefore down 2.11%. It's the biggest loser in the market today. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. Boy, it seems like we haven't done a live show. Well, I guess we did one on Friday. But we had to do a replay on Thursday as we were both traveling. And then, of course, on Friday, Monday, we had the day off, markets off, and we played a replay there. So you've had a couple of replays. But I don't see any replays in the near future to look forward to for myself.
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I guess maybe the 4th of July will be the next one.
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And in the meantime, after a bad week last week, we were down about 3% last week. I think it was mostly Europe. I think it was the budget bill. I think it was interest rates going up, kind of a topsy-turvy week. The debt mounting, not much in that budget bill to really cut into it. But, you know, Besson says, he's our Treasury Secretary, we are laser focused on cutting into the deficit over the next four years. But, you know, it takes time. I mean, you're turning around the USS Enterprise battleship aircraft carrier, and it takes a long time to do that. And if you cut too much, you put the country into recession. So it's a game of inches in the markets and in the economy. And, of course, you had a lot of rhetoric last week. You had Trump going after Apple and Tim Cook. You had Trump going after the EU, threatening them with a 50% tariff. And you also had him going after Harvard last week. So welcome to the new week.
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This week, I guess, you know, we ended, we thought normally it's a quiet day on Friday. Started with, of course, the... um you know threat of uh speeding up some of the tariffs on europe and then thankfully right by the time the dust settled uh coming on the show on tuesday we've got uh we've got some what looks to be at least uh some progress in in that arena yeah yeah i mean i don't know if it's progress to delay it by 90 days but they did the trade representatives did say that uh
SPEAKER 07 :
They were down to just several issues. They've ironed a lot of them out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and these things, historically, I mean, I've heard it best to even say, you know, historically, some of these deals, you know, as you iron every piece of it out across all different products and different industries and sectors, you know, you said it can take, you know, sometimes two to three years in some of these negotiations. But, you know, obviously, you're making progress. You're putting... uh making changes on the board and you're you know likely going a lot of these things go in industry by industry some when it comes to china and india possibly company by company right well and then you get down into the brie cheeses of the world and mercedes-benz and but it but the uh the european commission president ursula von der lander
SPEAKER 07 :
requested the extension on the June 1st deadline. And here's what she said. She said in her own post on X, she said, Europe is ready to advance talks swiftly and decisively to reach a good deal. But we need time until July the 9th. So that's your next deadline, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And that's good because, I mean, the EU, obviously, they're a pact of countries. And They notoriously take a long time to come to decisions. Yes, bureaucrat. I think the message that Trump sent on Friday is he was frustrated at the slow pace of movement from the EU and looks like might have lit a bit of a fire under him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and they are historically slow at coming to decisions. You have a lot of bureaucracy involved. over there in Europe. But it does keep the mood upbeat, and it does sound like they're having constructive talks. It's not like tit for tat and going after each other. It sounds like everybody's getting along, and they will get a deal. Now, I wrote up, I didn't realize, this story kind of broke. Well, it's been out there. I mean, I have written up the Japan carry trade before and explained what it is all about. I mean, Japan is the world's top creditor in the world. Until now, it lost its place as the world's top creditor in the world. Germany has overtaken it, another country known for very cheap debt. And Japan loses the title of the world's top creditor for the first time in decades. And it's finally gone over 1%. It's up around 1.5%. And that was my chart on the front cover of the newsletter. Yep. on Saturday morning, which I got out in a very efficient manner. I have a new process for getting the newsletter out earlier on Saturday for you all. But I showed a chart of that Japanese interest rate, which has been mired at under 1% for decades, for years. You can borrow money from Japan. for less than 1%. It was the carry trade. They would go ahead and buy those Japanese bonds and then turn around and use them to finance other investments and whatnot. So anyways, we're going to keep an eye on that.
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Think of it this way. Borrowing in yen and then buying assets around the world with it, right?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes.
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Whether it's treasuries and making some arbitrage, potential arbitrage return or... Some of that finance is ways to make other investments in equities or private investment into the U.S. and around the globe. So, yeah, it's a source of borrowing funds. Think of it as margin for the markets. And as that margin decreases, meaning they lend less, that's when some of that unwinding that you talk about in terms of unwinding occurs.
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Yeah, and the worry is as it goes up, the lending will go down, the borrowing will go down, and therefore that turning around and investing in things that return more could also start to struggle. We've had this worry before. It came up about six months ago. But now that Japanese debt has really taken off their interest rate. They've lost the battle of trying to keep that high end of the debt or the interest rates down. And so now it becomes a little bit more of a headline to watch. Now, I can remember maybe five, six, seven years ago when I had to add Greek debt and Italy debt to my newsletter each week because it was the center of the storm. As their interest rates were starting to explode and they were not able to pay their retirees, some of them, they were having to lower the benefits and there was a lot of turmoil and ruckus out there. Austerity. Austerity. Oh, I can remember my dad. Well, this year's vacation won't quite be like last year. He didn't use the word austerity. But you know it wasn't going to be Disneyland. It was probably a trip up to Montana to see Uncle Neil, you know, where we could stay for free at his big resort there and that kind of thing in the old Pontiac. And it wasn't going to be Disneyland. So anyways, austerity. But Japan loses the title as the world's top creditor for the first time in decades. decades and i have now put that on my weekly watch list will be that japan tenure i do look at it from time to time but now it's going to require much closer monitoring because on days when the japan debt goes up you just watch those high-end high beta stocks go down there is a direct correlation that's going to be very important to watch going forward we'll be right back
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. You know, Japan had their worst 20-year auction since 1987, which shows you that that carry trade is slowing down. And Japan's Ministry of Finance is going to meet to try to gauge investor sentiment ahead of bond sales because if those sales don't go well, Interest rates go up, and if the demand is not there, they're going to have to start floating a lower amount of bonds, obviously, to keep those interest rates from going up. So it really hit last Thursday when Societe Generale, I think that's a big bank out of France, that's their main bank, kind of like Barclays in the U.K., or Goldman Sachs here, they said that there could be a dramatic shift in the markets worldwide triggered by Japan's bond market turmoil. But having said that, I mean, they're still at 1.5%, but you start moving towards 2% and over 2%, They've got a big problem there in Japan. Russia launches the biggest air attack. Here's worry number two. Russia launches biggest air attack on Ukraine. Trump calls Putin absolutely crazy. Well, Barry, it's not good to have somebody absolutely crazy behind the trigger or buttons of nuclear arsenal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Especially since they seem to have had, at least historically, right, it seemed to have had kind of – Putin and Trump have kind of had, you know, certainly a better relationship than with the Democratic side for an extended period of time. Really the only person that's really been able to talk to him, right? I mean, in terms of administrations. But, you know, having him, when I saw that this weekend, I'm like... First, it was one attack, and then he mentioned he was quoted as saying in terms of crazy and killing people for no reason. And then I think he launched even a bigger drone attack right afterwards.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, launching three nights in a row. That's their biggest aerial attack on Ukraine. I mean, he's definitely sending a message.
SPEAKER 08 :
And using Iranian drones, by the way, as we were in potential nuclear talks with Iran, right? I mean, the interplay between it all is just unbelievable.
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Well, I would just also mention to all of you that are students of the Old Testament, Ezekiel chapter 38, you might want to read that because Ezekiel, A long time ago, Jewish prophet predicted all the countries that would be in league towards the end times. And, of course, Russia and Iran are number one and number two. And here it is. It's happening right before our eyes. Now, who knows what comes of all of this, but 900 drones. And Putin basically giving Trump the middle finger, it would seem like. And Trump also rebuked Zelensky saying he's doing his country no favors by talking the way he does. I would say that Zelensky's got a big mouth. Of course, Trump has a big mouth, too. Everything out of his mouth causes problems, says Trump. I don't like it, and it better stop. So anyways, I think it's safe to say there's been no progress in the peace talks or the ceasefire talks between Russia and Ukraine. But like you say, the scary thing is Iran is there. With the drones, and what if Israel were to attack Iranian nuclear sites? Would Russia defend Iran? I mean, at this point, you would say, gee, I mean, they must owe Iran some loyalty for giving them the drones and whatnot, and the two kind of are in league with each other, you would think. Okay, earnings week ahead. Here's worry number three. NVIDIA, Wednesday, after the close, NVIDIA will report earnings. We'll also get earnings from Salesforce. Salesforce made a big acquisition today. We'll get earnings from Costco, Hewlett-Packard, Marvell, Dell. uh and a few chinese stocks but definitely i would say these days the biggest report of all is nvidia in the market right i mean godfather of ai at the moment right it's it's it's number one and it's in the dow and it's a huge piece of the nasdaq it's a huge piece of the s&p 500 They will report after the close on Wednesday. Analysts expect their earnings growth to grow 19%. Is that all? 19% year over year? That can't be right. That's what they've got here. They must have had a sensational quarter a year ago, which makes a tough comparable. with nearly a sixty they can expect a sixty six percent surge in revenue which is also called sales reflecting continued strength in a i driven demand and data center growth wall wall street maintains a strong by consensus seeking alpha analyst take a more cautious stance assigning the stock a hold due to valuation concerns well the best stocks now app i believe has it as a strong buy still uh yes the valuation concerns are there but it's nothing it has nowhere near the types of valuation that some of these other stocks have in the market. Let me just see what our current ranking is on, of course, that's artificial intelligence coming up with that. I make the final decision on it. Right now, NVIDIA in the app, NVDA. I know it has over 100% upside potential on the valuation there, It's got 118% upside potential. That's excellent. I like 80% or more. It's ranking, we have it currently with a buy ranking. And, of course, the performance grade on NVIDIA is an A-. No, actually, it's better than that. The performance grade is an A+. I'm sorry. Well, why? Over the last 10 years, an investment in NVIDIA 10 years ago, 75% per year. Compound that out. Start with $10,000 and add 74.5% per year for 10 years. That's been the average return. And you'll see, I think it's still the number one 10-year returner in the entire market. You can look that up on the app. We obviously still have a buy ranking. Okay. Costco, we don't have any exposure to. And the others, we don't have any exposure. Oracle to spend $40 billion on NVIDIA chips. How would you like to be the salesman that made that deal? Okay, sign right here $40 billion deal to power OpenAI data center, which they're building in Texas. Oracle is. Oracle's a big player in data center, even though it hasn't really shown up in the stock that much. So anyways, that's a big, big contract. And then last week, I would say the sector of the week. Bitcoin obviously had a good week. It hit a new all-time high. But when we come back, the sector of the week by far and away was, well, it's in the news again today. We'll talk about that sector when we come back. This is the Best Docs Now show. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services... Call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Call out the instigators Because there's something in the air
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. We'll begin with Oklo. Oklo is in the nuclear sector and really kind of in the leading spot, I would say, along with SMR to make kind of a smaller, they call it a fourth generation small modular reactor. Technology is where they're at, the fourth generation reactor. They signed a memorandum of understanding with Korea, hydro and nuclear power for advanced nuclear project. Well, you know what? Look, if we can use Korea as kind of a test to see how fast they can get this thing running and up and running, that would be great. It's up 1.8%. That's a really solid chart on Oklo, okay? Oklo and Korea said they will explore opportunities to jointly advance the standard design development and verification of Oklo's planned Aurora powerhouse and to cooperate on early stage project development efforts, including manufacturability assessments and planning of major equipment, supply chain development, for balance of plant systems and constructability assessments and planning. So that's good. Okay, so Oklo's surged 23% on Friday. Why? Well, that's why that was the sector of the week last week. You had President Trump signing an executive order aiming to expand nuclear power. So now it's official. I mean, I've felt all along that we definitely were going to go in this direction. I mean, that's something the Republicans and the Democrats agree on right now.
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Well, we know we need more power. Yeah, need more power. And if, you know, we can get it in a safer, more reliable manner, particularly, I mean, in terms of, you know, you've been talking about nuclear kind of becoming, you know, green, you know, kind of green energy now. The trick is obviously just keeping it safe and disposing of the waste however they deem appropriate.
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Yes, and I heard Elon Musk say that we're going to be low. We're going to be feeling it by midway next year. And it comes right down to every time someone does a chat GPT search, That thing is whirring and spinning and coming back with an answer to you somewhere in a data center. NVIDIA chips are spinning and heating up to get you that answer as quickly as possible. Now think of millions of people at the same time asking chat GPT. Therein lies the answer as to why it takes so much power. to run this AI. So anyways, I mean, some of the stocks that took off Friday, Lightbridge, which is working on a fuel that they can develop a lot faster, was up 43%. Let's hope Iran doesn't get in on that, speeding up the uranium enrichment. Nano Nuclear NNE, which I've owned in the past, Oklo, Uranium Energy, UEC, Centris Energy, these are uranium suppliers. NuScale, definitely a major player in this small modular space, SMR. And some others were NextGen, ASP Isotopes, which is another one developing a different kind of fuel system. Bill Gates has an investment there in that. Denison Mines, Cameco, BWXT, Constellation Energy had a big week. Vistra had a big week. Talon had a big week. And NRG also had a big week. So that's pretty much... all of the players in that nuclear sector. And there is a nuclear ETF. I can't think of the symbol offhand. You can look it up, but it's all of these stocks in one place. to spread your risk around, but still we're five years out, maybe five years and three months now, or four years and nine months. I mean, we're getting closer and closer all the time to actually having new nuclear supply online. Okay, so remember that. For me, these are still trading stocks, but I can see making an investment, especially in the bigger ones, Vistra and Constellation and NRG. Okay, more fruit from the trip to the Middle East. Imagine this. In Saudi Arabia, in the city of Qaddafi, they will have a Six Flags. They're going to open their first theme park outside North America in Saudi Arabia. Wow. So they like roller coasters too, I guess. There has a major international growth project in the works this year. And I think as you watch those reports from the Middle East, you realize how developed... And how, you know, pretty nice area over there to even go tourism and visit. Looked pretty nice to me. Great hotels and restaurants and a lot of American stuff over there in that neck of the woods. But this will be Six Flags, which the symbol is fun. It will be the largest park in the world featuring 28 rides and attractions, including the record-breaking Falcon's Flight roller coaster, which is set to be the world's tallest, fastest, and longest coaster. All three, huh? And while you're on that, Barry, I'm going to hang out at the Aqua Arabia Water Theme Park, which will offer 22 water rides in that 108-degree heat. Probably, yeah, that's required. Including the world's tallest water coaster and Saudi Arabia's first surf pool. They'll be hanging ten in Dubai. How about that as Americanization? Now, one of the other themes here, and we're... I want to know how long they've been building that.
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I mean, wow. No, they just announced it. Oh, okay, so they haven't built... I got you.
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Yeah. Well, wait a minute. No, it's scheduled to open in late 2025. Oh, okay. Wow. That thing's well underway. I mean, that thing's almost ready.
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I'm going to have to take a look at that online.
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Let's go do a workshop in Dubai. I hear there's some money there and some wealthy investors over in that neck of the woods and in Saudi Arabia. And who knows where we'll end up with Best Docs Now show. And, you know, I'll wave to you as you go down that slide and that roller coaster. And Jeff Webster, definitely, hanging upside down in the roller coaster there at 90 miles an hour, loses Dodger hat, hopefully. Let that thing fall on the ground right into the trash can. Okay, WeRide expands into, guess where? Saudi Arabia with the launch of RoboTaxi. You know, the king of Saudi Arabia, you know, it's Salman, S-A-L-M-A-N, is really bringing Saudi Arabia into the 21st century in a big way. And WeRide is a Chinese company. And while WeRide is expanding into Saudi Arabia with launch of Robotaxi, we know they're going full blast ahead. full speed ahead in the Bay Area of San Francisco and in Austin, Texas. Now, I'm headed out next weekend to the Bay Area. My friend Douglas, who helped me develop the Best Stocks Now app, he got a new boat, Barry, in his retirement. I said, Douglas, I've been handling a boat by myself, both large and small, for 30 years i'm going to come out there show you the ropes teach you how to do everything so you're not afraid to leave your slip the truth of the matter is as you drive by a landing that has hundreds of boats in that landing you know how many of them actually ever leave their slip probably two or three percent the others are just there parked getting uh barnacles on the bottom A cleaning bill every month. Never leave the slip. Maybe they go party on the boat on the weekends. But if you're going to have a boat, use it. Get out there on the water. So I'm going to teach Douglas. He's on the Sacramento River up in the Suiswin River area. And I'm going to teach him the ropes there. So I'll check and see. And maybe we'll get downtown San Francisco. I really want to see the robo-taxis. The Padres are in town that weekend, and he has a couple of grandsons that are security guards. One of them is a security guard. Oakland is playing in Sacramento this year. The Oakland A's are no longer in Oakland.
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Yeah, they're playing in a minor league stadium over there, right?
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Yes, and I've been there. That's a nice little stadium. So going to have some fun in Sacramento and broadcast Monday and Tuesday. from the Bay Area and give you a live report with waders, waterproof boots on the ground. We'll be right back. We're going to talk about Tesla, BYDDF, and a few others. This is the Best Docs Now show.
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And welcome back to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show.
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Well, by tomorrow we should have a firm date. and location for our Lakewood Ranch workshop and two-day meeting agenda. We are looking at four weeks from now. It's just nailing down that place where we can do everything in one place, hopefully. And we've got a couple almost set to go, and then we'll announce that. And then, of course, we're headed to Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, Detroit area. uh eight weeks out and while i'm back in that bay area i'm going to take a look around uh we've been on k-dow there for a number of years and it's time to do something in the bay area barry i get you out there to uh fisherman's wharf what's left of it it's one of the was one of the greatest cities it's still a great city i mean i still love san francisco The seafood. Tadditch Grill is probably my favorite restaurant in America. Yeah, I've talked to a lot of folks.
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A lot of folks over there are excited to get the chance to get out there sometime. It would be nice.
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We've just got to figure out a place to hold it. I'm thinking probably San Jose. If you've got any suggestions... You know, we used to go downtown San Francisco. You know, there were some nice hotels there, and I would teach a workshop downtown and have it in a nice conference room there. But I just don't know that people like going downtown San Francisco anymore. So if you've got a suggestion for us in the Bay Area, if you're listening to KDAO, maybe over by the tesla plant i don't know somewhere around there give us an idea we want to hold something there in the about three months four months out from now in that bay area of course we're going to get back to minnesota and hopefully down to houston here eventually and then pittsburgh we can't forget pittsburgh we can't leave pittsburgh behind we have uh I've got to print a t-shirt. You've got a full schedule. Well, I'm going to print a t-shirt. The dead and company, you know. The gunderheads follow us around. Trump says U.S. deal will remain under American control with Nippon deal. He doesn't want to give up control of it. He has no problem with Japan. That was a concession, investing in it. And while WeRide is expanding into Saudi Arabia, Pony is teaming up with Dubai Rapid Transit Authority to boost self-driving transport in Dubai, another place. where there's megabucks floating around, and I can see probably some major advancements being made in that area of the world in this whole autonomous effort. Will there be a day? I mean, my buddy Douglas, he used to commute from the Fairfield area to downtown San Francisco every day as he worked for Wells Fargo at their headquarters as a programmer. And they did ride share, Barry. They would all show up at a ride share area, and one guy would be the driver for the week, and about six of them would get piled into the car. Nobody could decide which show to listen to, so they solved it by turning to KDAO, Invest Stocks Now Show. which is on every day back there live. And so anyways, someday an autonomous vehicle, maybe a little passenger thing fitted with TVs and whatnot, you'll all pile in and no driver and drop you off at your locations that have been programmed in by computer. We're headed in that direction. Just like the Jetsons. I used to watch the Jetsons when I was a kid, and now all of this is coming true. Maybe we've passed the Jetsons. Not quite. I know this flying taxis. I saw a company today. Uh, their headquarters, I had no idea that, uh, it's, uh, let's see, what's the name of, it's one of the leading robo or ro, what do you call the, what do you call the flying ones?
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Oh, the, well, they, we, for a while we were calling them the flying taxi, but I mean, essentially it'd be, yeah, it was before we got, uh, got to the robo taxi far along.
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Bridger Aerospace is going to expand their headquarters. They are headquartered in Bozeman. Yellowstone. That's got to be the only publicly traded company. I have relatives in Bozeman, and my uncle owned a big, giant resort just outside of Yellowstone in Ennis, Montana. That was our vacation because we could go see Uncle Neil on pretty cheap budget, right? It wasn't Disneyland, but I liked it better than Disneyland myself. Yeah, not six flags in Saudi Arabia, right? I mean, would you rather go to Bozeman and fish those rivers around there? My cousins, great, they were both great cousins, were very famous fly fishermen in that area. And Tommy Morgan was a world-famous builder of custom-made fly rods. I said, Tommy, when are you going to make one for me? He said, send me a check for six grand. And I'll have it done in about six months. He made about $100 a year. That was it. Wow. He was world famous until he passed away about three or four years ago. But I still have a lot of relatives in that neck of the woods. That's where Bridger Aerospace, B-A-E-R. Now, I could see getting in a little flying thing and flying over back to the Bay Area back and forth and whatnot. But around town, I don't know how that's going to work. They're going to have to land on rooftops or something like that. Now, CoreWeave, downgraded by Barclays to equal weight. That has been one of the hottest stocks in the entire market. We have done very well. It doubled in about 10 weeks. No, no, 18 days. I'm sorry. After we purchased it in the Alter Growth Portfolio, and I am a risk manager too. I'm always looking in the rearview mirror. I took my cost out of it by selling one half. And what's sitting there now is gravy. The stock went up 95%. Salesforce announces a deal to acquire Informatica. You know, we'll get an update. We have some listeners that work for Salesforce. I've never found Informatica to be a very good stock, but maybe... It will help Salesforce's efforts.
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Yeah, and it's on that data front. I mean, a lot of data has to do with AI, and that's obviously the next vertical for them that they're kind of trying to add to. So that's basically to help customers with their own data.
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Join Rick Hughes in another stimulating session of The Flatline, where the focus is on understanding the spiritual realm's connection with physical existence. This episode unveils the critical understanding of two births and two deaths, offering a path towards avoiding the second death and embracing eternal life. Through insightful discussions and scriptural interpretations, Rick encourages listeners to evaluate their spiritual journey and take action towards salvation today.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stay with me. It'll only be about 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education, and no manipulation. That's right, we don't con you. We're not seeking money. We're not going to sell you anything. We're not going to ask you to join anything. All I'd like for you to do is listen, please. Listen carefully. Hopefully I'll be able to verify and identify God's plan for your life, and if that's possible, if I do that, then I'll pray that you will orient and adjust to the plan. You only got one shot at it. Success in life depends on what you use. You got two ends, one end you think with, one end you sit with. It's heads you win and tails you lose. So please, consider the things that I'm saying on the radio show today. They are very critical for you and in your future. Today I'd like to tell you an amazing biblical fact. It has to do with two different births and two different deaths. Two births and two deaths. And we all know that our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, was born into this world the same way as you and I are born. As a matter of fact, I'll read to you from Matthew 2, 1 through 2. After Jesus was born, there it is, he was born in Bethlehem in Judea during the time of King Herod. Magi came from the east to Jerusalem and asked, where is the one who's been born King of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him. Twice now, he's been identified as being born. The Lord Jesus Christ was born into this world as a human, but he was God at the same time, the God-man, undiminished deity, as we say, and true humanity, however, in one body forever. We know that his birth was unique for several different reasons. And the first one is because he was uniquely born of a virgin. She had never conceived, never had sex with the person she was espoused to. In Luke 1.35, the angel answered, the Holy Spirit will come on you and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One to be born, there it is, will be called the Son of God. Thus our Lord Jesus Christ entered into the devil's domain the same way you and I do, born of a woman. However, the unique thing about this particular birth is there was no man involved, thus the original sin of Adam was not passed on to him. You and I, on the other hand, were born of human parents, And thus we receive Adam's original sin and we're born under that condemnation. In Romans 5, 12, therefore just as sin entered into the world through one man and then death through sin, and in this way death came to all people because all have sinned. The unique thing about the Lord Jesus Christ is there was no man involved, no imputation of Adam's original sin to the Lord Jesus Christ. So the imputed sin of Adam to the human race caused all of us to be born spiritually dead. You and I were both born alive, but spiritually dead. It's really a funny thing. We are alive, but dead, yes. Physically alive, but spiritually dead. At birth, we remain physically alive. But in order for us to have a relationship with God, we must be spiritually alive as well as physically alive. There's two different things there, spiritual birth and physical birth. So with a dead human spirit, you and I cannot worship God. It's impossible. In John 4, 24, the Bible says God is a spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Our Lord Jesus Christ recognized this point and explained it in detail to Nicodemus, in John chapter three, verse six. This is what the Lord Jesus Christ told him. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the spirit is spirit. There's the two different births, physical and spiritual. Our Lord instructed Nicodemus that he needed to be born again if he intended to go to heaven. Listen to John 3, 5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto you, except a man be born of water, physical, and of the Spirit, spiritual, he cannot, will not, and will not ever enter into the kingdom of God. My emphasis there on will not. So our Lord actually teaches that in order to go to heaven, there has to be two different births. You have to be born of water, physical birth, and born of the Spirit, and that's the second birth, or as we know it, salvation. Our Lord Jesus admonished the religious leaders for not knowing these things. This is what he told Nicodemus. John 3.10, Jesus answered and said unto him, and you are a master of Israel and you don't know these things? He's not the only one that doesn't know these things. There are a lot of pastors today that don't know this either. So the Lord Jesus Christ went on to explain the actual mechanics of to being born again, the second birth. In John 3.14, as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so the son of man must be lifted up that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. He went on to clarify exactly what it means to receive eternal life. In John 3.16, God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but the world through him might be saved. So you hear the word believe, whosoever believeth in him should not perish? That's the key to it. If you have not believed in the true identity of Jesus, the anointed Son of God, the one who paid the penalty for our sin, you are not born again, and you are actually still at the current moment under condemnation. John 3, 18, he that believeth on him is not condemned, but he that believes not is condemned already. because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. I humbly suggest that you settle this issue today and you receive the Lord Jesus Christ by faith alone. Where do I get some concept like that? In John 1.12. But as many as receive him, to them he gave the right to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. There's a third time I said it. All right, go back to John 3, 14. Jesus Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up so that whoever believes in him should not perish. And then John 3, 16, God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son so that whoever believes in him should not perish. There it is again. And again, John 1, 12, as many as receive him, he gave the power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name. Didn't say anything about going forward. Didn't say anything about raising your hand. Didn't say anything about joining up. Didn't say anything about getting baptized. It said, believe in him. It's a simple act of faith. Romans 10, 13, whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. I know people that have done that in many different ways and many different hours on many different days. The question is, have you done it? Have you gone to the Father and have you confessed that you believe that Jesus is the anointed Son of God and you would like to receive him as your Savior? So let me remind you at this point, either you're born twice or you're going to die twice. You hear me? You're either going to be born twice or die twice. Let me understand. Let me help you understand that particular statement. It's kind of confusing. Born twice or die twice? What do you mean by that? In Hebrews 9, 27. and as it is appointed in a man once to die, and after that the judgment. In Ecclesiastes 3.2, Solomon wrote a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted. And in Psalm 89, 48, what man is he that liveth and shall not see death? Shall he deliver his soul from the hand of the grave? So we know from those verses that all of us must die. We will die. None of us here will live forever in this body. This body is not designed to work in heaven. This body is infected with a cancer called the sin nature of Adam's original sin. So we have to die if we want to go to heaven. It's the only way to get there. So just as physical birth is demanded in order to enter the earthly domain, for you to get here, you got to be born of a woman. And so spiritual birth is required for you to get into heaven. But just like physical birth is demanded in order to enter the earthly domain, so physical death is required for you to exit this earth. So you enter by birth and you exit by death. We don't have any control over the time or the manner or the place of our death. For the Christian, physical death is actually a victory over the rule of time. In 1 Corinthians 15, 57, the Bible says, but thanks be to God who gives to us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. For the Christian, and I hope that's you, death is not an accident. It's always God's perfect timing and perfect decision. We might not understand it, we might not like it, but you gotta remember that God is omniscient and he understands things we don't know. And his timing is perfect. And since our death, the death of the believer, the Christian, is the decision of God, it is God's victory as well as our victory. In 1 Corinthians 15, 55, O death, where is your sting? And O death, where is your victory? As far as the unbeliever goes, physical death is not an escape from the pain of time. You hear me? If you're an unbeliever, you're not going to be escaping from the pain of time, but rather, it's the first act of God and your final judgment. The Lord Jesus Christ endured the sufferings of the cross when he died as a substitute, thus offering a free pass from the fires of hell for us. Listen to Matthew 10, 28. Fear not them which kill the body but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. So the Lord Jesus Christ endured the sufferings that he endured, offering us a free pass from hell. We don't have to go there. He paid the penalty for our sins, thank goodness. But the unbeliever, the person that's not a Christian, when he dies, he's not escaping the pain of time. It's just the first act of God's final judgment. In Mark 9, 43, let's listen to this passage. If your hand offend you, cut it off. It's better for you to enter into life maimed than have two hands and go into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched, where the worm dives not and the fire is not quenched. And if your foot offend thee, cut it off, which is better for you to enter halt into life than having two feet and be cast into hell, into the fire that will never be quenched. where the worm doesn't die and the fire is not quenched. And if your eye offends you, pluck it out, because it's better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than having two eyes and be cast into hell fire, where the worm dies not and the fire is not quenched. So unfortunately, you see that hell is a real place, and you see that you're being warned by the Lord Jesus Christ, don't go there. You don't have to go there. You don't have to endure that. He paid the penalty for your sin and my sin. And if we'll put our faith and trust in him, we do not have to go to hell. But for the unbeliever, the person who rejects that, then death is just the first judgment coming to you. Unfortunately, the first death and the placement into the fires of hell is only beginning of what's actually going to happen. I want to say that again, listen. The first death and placement into the fires of hell for the unbeliever is the only beginning of what's going to happen because the Bible informs us that there are two distinct judgments for all members of the human race. First is the judgment seat of Christ found in 1 Corinthians 3, 11 through 15. The only people at this judgment are believers. And this judgment is actually an evaluation of our lives after we became believers. This is where many rewards are given by our Lord for fidelity and for achievement in their life as a Christian. The second judgment, not 1 Corinthians 3, 11 through 15, that's for believers only. But the second judgment is for unbelievers only. And this is called the great white throne of judgment. And many people at this judgment will be shocked to discover their morality and their charity did not earn them entry into heaven. Let's look at the scriptures and reveal what this judgment's about. In Revelation 20, 11 through 15, and I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it from whose face the earth and the heavens fled away and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God. And the books, notice books, plural, more than one, the books were open. And then another book, singular, a book, one book was open, which is the book of life. The dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, plural, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them. Notice that. Those people in hell are brought up to this judgment. They died without Christ and they've been in hell, been awaiting now the real judgment. And they were judged, every man, according to their works. What exactly does that mean? And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Now did you notice the reference to book and books? The passage that I read to you says the ones being evaluated are evaluated according to their production, to their works. If you want an inside look at what's going on here, just listen to Matthew 7, 21. Not every person that says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but only the ones that do the will of my Father which is in heaven. By the way, in John 6, 40, Jesus says the will of the Father that you believe in me whom he has sent. That's God's will. So in Matthew 7, 22, many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, were we not prophesying in your name? And in your name, we cast out devils. And in your name, we did many wonderful works. And I will then profess unto them, I did not know you. Depart from me, you that worked iniquity. This warning by the Lord Jesus Christ was given to the false prophets of Israel's day, whom the Lord called ravenous wolves, the religious crowd, canine clergy, we call it. How unfortunate it's going to be for those who followed their teachings, those who thought they were serving God because they were being hospitable, they were being kind, they were being helpful. in being moral, but in reality, they sealed their own doom by not receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior. The final evaluation for unbelievers is based on two things. First, does their righteousness equal God's righteousness? And secondly, is their name in the book of life? That's a good question. Every person born into this world has his name in the book of life. But if they die the first death without receiving Christ, then their name is blotted out. In Revelation 3, 5, he that overcometh the same shall be clothed in white raiment. And I will not blot out his name from the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father and before his angels. It's possible that if you die without the Lord Jesus Christ, your name is erased out of the book of life because you've died the first death and you're now awaiting the second death. What's the second death? It's the lake of fire. They were man cast into the lake of fire. That is not very nice. Again, Revelation 20, 14, and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Whoever was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. Well, how unfortunate it will be for those who followed the teachings of these people. Those who thought they were serving God, but in reality were sealing their own doom by not receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior. So that final evaluation was based on two things. Do they have the righteousness that equals God's righteousness? And remember the Bible says there are none that are righteous, no, not one. All of our righteousness is like a filthy rag in God's eyes. There's no way we can equal God's perfect righteousness. If I put an R up and put a plus by it, that's plus R, that's God's righteousness. If I put an R up and put a minus by it, that's minus R, that's man's righteousness. And there's no way that your righteousness will ever equal God's righteousness. Because if you commit one sin, one small little sin, you're condemned. Because our Father has never sinned, the Lord Jesus Christ never sinned. So every person born into this world Their name is recorded in that book of life. But if they die the first death without receiving Christ who paid for their sins, then their name is blotted out. So in reality, here's the bottom line. Either you're gonna be born twice or you're gonna die twice. Either you're gonna be born twice or die twice. The first birth is physical. You can't get into this planet without being physically born of a woman. And the second birth is spiritual. You can't get into heaven until you're born again. And so the first death is exit death. You don't leave this planet until you die. The second death is cast into the lake of fire. I urge you to consider this information. I urge you to make your decision today and receive the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior. That's my prayer for you. In 2 Corinthians 6.2, for he saith, I have heard thee in time accepted, and the day of salvation have I secured thee. Behold, now is the accepted time. Now, now, now. I said that three times, it's not an echo. Now is the day of salvation. Not tomorrow, not next week, now. I invite you wherever you are to do that. I invite you wherever you are to make the single greatest decision you could ever make in your life, which is a decision to receive the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior. If you do that, the Bible says, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And you can do it in your automobile right now. Or you can do it sitting there at your kitchen table or in your easy chair. You can simply bow your head and pray and say, God, I believe Jesus Christ died for me. and I would like to believe that he is my savior and accept him as my Lord. A simple prayer. I mean, the words are not important. I can say the words for you, but that's not the important thing. The important thing is that you believe that Jesus is the anointed son of God, that Jesus did pay for your sin. You can't earn your way to heaven. You can't be good enough to get into heaven. If you're facing that second judgment and all those books are open, Every good deed you did will be brought forth. Well, look, he went to Sunday school. He got a pen. Oh, look, he didn't cuss. He didn't drink. He didn't smoke. Oh, look, he never cheated. But that's all human good. That's all your own righteousness. And that will not get you into heaven. I want you to be moral. I want you to be good. I want you to be kind. I want you to be nice. But I want you to understand that's not what saves you. That definitely is the way a saved person acts, but that's not how you get saved. You get saved by believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. As I told you, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. So where you are right now, why don't you do that? Why don't you just pray a simple prayer if you've never done it before? Now, once is enough. You don't have to pray it 10 times. Once is enough. But if you will simply pray, Heavenly Father, I believe Christ died for me, and I wish to accept him as my Savior. That's you sealing that commitment and letting God know that you are willing to receive Christ as your Savior. And by doing that, I promise you, you will never face a second death. I promise you, you'll go through the first death. You have to. You can't get out of this planet without dying. This body won't work in heaven anyhow. It's infected with a sin nature. But if you believe in Christ and receive him as your Savior, the Bible says this. What a great verse it is. If any man's in Christ, he's a new creature. Behold, all things are passed away, and all things become new. Think about that. Today, you could be a different person. Today, you could have your second birthday. Do you even know? I mean, it's not necessary to know it, but do you know your second birthday? I know when mine was, mine was in August of 1967. That's the day that I accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior. I don't have a birthday cake to celebrate that day, but I remember it. Everybody wants to celebrate your birthday, you know, and wish you happy birthday on Facebook or whatever. Your family may want to get you a birthday cake, and that's all nice and sweet. We all enjoy the birthday cake. But the significant real birthday is the day you're born again and have the second birth. So again, you're either going to be born twice or you're going to die twice. It's your decision. It's your life. You're only going to have one shot at it, not two, not three, one shot. I hope you're listening. I hope you're paying attention. The only way to get in this land is to be born by a woman, and the only way to get out is to die. But again, two births are two deaths. The first birth is physical. The second birth is spiritual. And that's why the Lord Jesus Christ told Nicodemus that he had to be born again. Nicodemus didn't understand that. He kind of blew his mind when he heard that. But the Lord Jesus Christ corrected him and made it clear. He said, you're a master of Israel and you don't know these things? John 3, 5, he told him, verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. There it is, plain as day. Have you been born again? Have you had your second birthday? Because if you have not been born spiritually, even though you're born physically, You will die just like everybody must die, but you will die the second death, and that's being cast into the lake of fire where you're tormented forever and ever and ever. That's not God's plan for you. He didn't prepare that for you. He prepared that for Satan. and the fallen angels. What he prepared for you is the Lord Jesus Christ, his only begotten son, paying the penalty for your sin, my sin. What a gracious gift that was, a free gift. That's why the Bible says, for by grace are we saved through faith. It's the gift of God. Do you hear that? The gift of God, not of works, lest anybody would brag about it. I hope you're listening, and I hope you'll pay attention. And I thank you for being a part of the Flatline Radio Show. This is show 1031, 1031 Sundays we've been on the air. If you'd like to get in touch with us, you can always go to our website, rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org. and you can see all the different books we've made available, all free of charge. We don't charge for anything, nothing. We don't sell anything. If you have a question, you can call us or write us. You can call at 800-831-0718. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Andy Peth fills in on Rush to Reason with Jersey Joe for a fast-moving hour of political clarity and cultural smackdowns. From a laugh-out-loud "Am I Old?" test to a fiery critique of the Biden military ads, they dig into why America’s recruitment turnaround came from strength—not sensitivity. Joe unloads on Biden’s $93B last-minute green energy cash dump, Rubio obliterates a Senate heckler, and Charlie Kirk dismantles anti-Israel propaganda at Cambridge. Also: AI models writing blackmail and planning their own survival? Oh yes, it’s all here.
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Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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SPEAKER 07 :
Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And welcome to our number three here on Rush to Reason. I'm Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush, who will be back tomorrow. The long wait is over, and on the line right now we've got Jersey Joe. Joe, how you doing? I'm doing good. How you doing? Doing pretty good, pretty good. I haven't been able to talk to you that way in a long time, so it really feels good. Joe, now I know you've got a few things we're going to play, but first.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, no, before you play that, I want a little humor to start the show, if you don't mind. Please, start with some humor. You've got a birthday coming up in about 30 days, right? Yes, I do. All right, so here's a little test. How old is Andy Pace? Now, I'm going to read off a list of things that only old people have done, and I just want you to say either guilty or not guilty. So here's a list of things. If you've done these, you're guilty. All right, use the rotary dial telephone. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. Played a game on an Atari GameBox. Guilty. Sent or received a fax. Guilty. Ordered records from Columbia House. Guilty. Accessed the Internet via a dial-up modem.
SPEAKER 16 :
Guilty. Actually, you know what? Columbia House, I think I'm not guilty on that. But go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Keep going. Looked something up in a hard copy encyclopedia. Guilty. Used a paper phone book. Guilty. Sent a postcard. Guilty. Used a paper roadmap. Guilty. Still do, by the way. Owned a dictionary. Guilty. Written a paper check. Guilty. Last but not least, uncurled a telephone cord.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I still do that. I actually do that with the cords here in the studio. And yes, I've done that with phone cords.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, let me tell you, I won't tell you what my score was, but I'm going to tell you this, how old it made me feel. When I asked my daughter to take the test, there were 24 items on the list. She scored a 24 out of 24. So if your daughter scores 24 out of 24, how old does that make you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Dead. It means you're dead, Joe. You're not actually here, okay? This is heaven. I hope it turned out as good as you expected.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, but just think of how many young people today have never done a single one of those things.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, but that's a good thing, isn't it? I mean, progress is a great thing. It's very impressive. What an incredible country we have where things move at such a lightning pace.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, a wise man once told me, he said, Things change, and if you don't believe that, when you go home tonight, put a banana in your coat pocket and then check it in about two weeks.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's good. I hadn't thought of that.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, so you got a video, an audio clip to start us off with, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I just want to play this. This is a new ad. Now, you remember during the time of Biden, the ads they were using for recruitment for the military? Remember, they were unbelievable. I mean, they were just it was all talking about our diversity, our diversity, being gay, lesbian, being couples and all this kind of stuff. And, you know, God help them if they ever put a white man on the screen or whatever. It was just all this absolute celebrate diversity nonsense. And of course, what happened to their numbers, Joe?
SPEAKER 15 :
In the toilet. Yeah, absolutely. We didn't meet our recruiting goals for three years in a row.
SPEAKER 16 :
How can you talk about happy, happy diversity, right, and we're all going to celebrate diversity when you're sending people off to kill people and break things? I don't get it. What was their thinking? But anyway, now I'm going to play their latest ad, and this is actually true. This is from the new Defense Department. The Pentagon has rolled out an epic new ad. Here we go.
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No more distractions. No more electric tanks. No more gender confusion. No more climate change worship. We are laser focused on our mission of warfighting.
SPEAKER 19 :
We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars we end, and perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's called peace through strength. You look into the eyes of these young Americans who are giving up the best years of their life in a uniform to serve their nation, they are incredible.
SPEAKER 19 :
Through our power and might, we will lead the world to peace. Our friends will respect us, our enemies will fear us, and the whole world will admire the unrivaled greatness of the United States military. We will replenish the pride of our armed forces, end the recruitment crisis,
SPEAKER 18 :
We don't fight because we hate what's in front of us. We fight because we love what's behind us.
SPEAKER 19 :
God bless you. God bless our own forces. God bless our men and women serving overseas. And God bless the United States of America.
SPEAKER 16 :
Joe, I'm going to ask you two questions. First of all, what do you think? How does that sound to people who are considering being in the military?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, let's look at how, as a result, we went from three years in a row of failing to meet our recruiting goals, and now we're seven months into the new fiscal year, and all four branches of the military have already met or exceeded their recruiting goals seven months into the new fiscal year.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. And number two, Joe, how do you feel hearing that if you're our enemies? I'd be worried as hell. Yeah, so would I. And I got to throw in number three. How would you have felt if you were our enemies and you got to see and they did, by the way, and you got to see the recruiting ads put out by the Biden administration that woke absolute. We're going to bring you in here to, I don't know, change your life and all get along or whatever. I mean, those kinds of ads. What do you think our enemies thought when they saw the Biden ads?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, number one, I think weakness. But, you know, my first reaction is like they'd be. They'd look at the ad and they would laugh hysterically and they'd share it with all of their friends. Yes. Look at what those idiots in the United States are doing. Yeah. They would be making fun of us.
SPEAKER 16 :
They would see us putting out military ads celebrating the gay lifestyle. And by the way, folks, if you're gay, live your life, whatever. But what's that got to do with blowing up a building? OK, they would see us celebrating this lifestyle, celebrating the fact that we have different colors, celebrating that we have men and women, celebrating that we have this and that. And meanwhile, the people who are watching this from overseas are people who are in militaries that kill people. OK, that go in and murder and kill and overrun villages and stuff like this. And they're looking at that and saying that's what they're recruiting to fight us.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's weakness. And we're going to play a clip later on of Charlie Kirk from having a debate. with a young Cambridge student over the Israeli Hamas conflict in Gaza. We're going to play that clip.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll just tell you what. Let's take a break because I want to have more time to get right to the – because the rest of this is all going to be your recording. Sound good? Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Let's take – well, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, good enough. Great.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pig filling in for John Rush. On the line, we've got Jersey Joe. Joe, what do you got for me?
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, first clip I want to play is our new Energy Secretary, Chris Wright. Yes. And testifying before the Senate. And I want to set the stage. The other voice you're going to hear is one of my favorites. It's Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana, Republican. Oh, yeah. Now, he comes across like a country bumpkin. He's a Harvard Law School graduate. And so Chris Wright's been there testifying before the Senate. And so Senator Kennedy gets the floor and starts to ask our new Energy Secretary, Chris Wright, about expenditures by the Department of Energy, which he's now heading up. Between Election Day 2024, which is November 5th, that was the day Kamala Harris lost the presidential election, and January 21, which was the day that Trump was sworn in as president. Now, appreciate that's a 76-day period, but keep in mind, out of that 76-day period, You had 11 weekends, so that's times two days per weekend. That's 22 days. So 76 minus 22 is 54. And then you had the Thanksgiving Day. You had Thursday and Friday for Thanksgiving. You had the Christmas recess. You had the New Year's Day recess. So you were down to about, you know, maybe 48 days. And here's what the Department of Energy under Biden did in the last 76 calendar days and 48 working days. So let's play this clip. It's a 10-minute clip. We'll only play the first two and a half minutes.
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I've come in with great concern about how this institution, this great American institution, has been run and how American taxpayer money has been handled. Chairman, I look forward to you. We've got a lot of work ahead of us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you, Senator. Mr. Secretary, I want to go back to some of your earlier testimony and be sure I heard it correctly. The 76-day period you're talking about, That's the period between the time that President Trump was elected and President Biden left office. Is that right? That is correct. And during that short period of time, 76 days.
SPEAKER 11 :
How much taxpayer money went out the door of the Department of Energy from the loan program office in loans and commitments? Ninety three billion dollars. well over twice as much as in the previous 15 years.
SPEAKER 07 :
So how do you vet and do due diligence on a loan in 76 days? One loan, much less $93 billion. How do you do it?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it's probably pretty clear it wasn't done in many cases. As I mentioned, I'm told I'm holding back clearly in place stuff. There was lots of funds that have gone out the door and commitments that were made from businesses that provided no business plan, no numbers about their own financial solvency or how this project.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you're telling me that the Department of Energy. In the 76 day period. Before their boss was going to leave office. Gave our loan money to entities that had no business plan. Correct. No financials.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct. A number of those were before the 76-day period as well. I've come in with great concern about how this institution, this great American institution has been run and how American taxpayer money has been handled.
SPEAKER 16 :
Basically, Joe. The Biden administration used every single department simply as a conduit through which they could reach through it and into the American taxpayers pocket and rob them blind.
SPEAKER 15 :
And give them some money. I believe that Stacey Abrams in Georgia. Oh, yeah. She she got what, a billion dollars. And she started a brand new company that had a hundred dollar in it. $100 in a bank account and hundreds of millions or a billion dollars that Stacey Abrams got.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they just funneled it. All they did was funnel it to their activist buddies.
SPEAKER 15 :
Activist buddies. And this goes beyond incompetence. I think this goes to intentional malfeasance.
SPEAKER 16 :
Joe, don't we have to get that money back?
SPEAKER 15 :
You would, you know, we should try like hell. And if there was fraud, we ought to be prosecuting. You know, clearly, if you applied for, and by the way, when you talk about 93 billion, very few of those were multi-billion dollar loans. You know, you're talking, you know, 50 million, 100 billion. You're probably talking, if I had to guess, if the average loan amount was a couple of hundred million, you're probably talking 500 loans and loans and grants. So they weren't all loans and grants.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And Joe, by the way, I'm sorry, but did you know that you just became a liar?
SPEAKER 15 :
Why is that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, loans are paid back. That's true. Okay. You're using improper English. I guess that's what I'm saying. Maybe it's your pronunciation.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And by the way, they were loans or loans or loan guarantees like the cylinder when Obama guaranteed the $500 million cylinder. And by the way, and I want to talk about federal guarantees.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. I will use Solyndra as a case study. So Solyndra, you know, the big solar energy firm, green energy, solar panels, they had gone to every major bank and every venture capital group in the country. And by the way, these banks, they hire the brightest people in the world. And 30-some banks and investment capital firms turn them down. Oh, of course. And then they go to the Obama administration, and Obama says, well, well, we're smarter than all of those other banks and investors that you went to. We think this is a great business plan. We're going to guarantee a $500 million loan. And once the federal government guarantees a loan, of course, the banks will absolutely lend you the money because, in fact, they're probably counting on you defaulting. But how arrogant is it of the federal government to assume that they are smarter than – every one of those 30 lending institutions and investors.
SPEAKER 16 :
And don't forget about, you're saying arrogant, don't forget about dishonest because the leaders of Solyndra were big donors then to Obama.
SPEAKER 15 :
Exactly. It's a money laundering scheme.
SPEAKER 16 :
It was a money laundering scheme. That money went right back into the pockets of Democrats. Obviously, just a portion of it. But that's what they were doing. They were enriching their buddies who were going to produce nothing. Obviously, Solyndra went under because they had a terrible business plan. That's why everybody turned them down. But a bunch of money wound up in the pockets of Democrats. And every single November, what do Republicans always say? Why do the Democrats have so much more money than we do?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, because they give them the good – like with the USAID, they give the money out to people like Stacey Abrams, and they turn right around and donate it back in campaign contributions. Right. And that's been the business model of the Democrat Party. Let's either grant money or loan money to people, and then expecting them – and it's all understood. I mean, it's never written down, but it's all understood. And they, in turn, will donate it back to our campaign committees. By the way – The business model.
SPEAKER 16 :
By the way, I love Kennedy. He's my favorite senator. He just comes off like a country bumpkin, but he's got the mind of a shark. He does. Circling in the waters, ready to embarrass you. I just love it. Do you got another one?
SPEAKER 15 :
Um, well, how much time do you have before the break? I don't want to get into Rubio unless we've got at least 10 minutes.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'll tell you what, why don't we take, well, let's go to break really quick. Cause it's not a long break. Okay. Let's go to a quick break because I want to spend lots of time on Rubio. Rubio has been a superstar. They need him in the next Marvel movie. He has been so good. So let's take a break. Okay. Up next is Roof Savers. Hey, who needs a great roof? Who needs one, right? It doesn't rain in Colorado, right? Please. Have you looked? Yes, it does. Folks, Dave Hart. He can fix your roof when things go wrong, but he can also treat your roof to last 5, 10, even 15 years longer. Call Dave at 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. On the line, we've got Jersey Joe. Joe, I need a little Marco fix. I need my Marco fix.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, let me set the stage. So what you're going to hear, Senator Chris Von Hollen of Maryland, who's the same senator that went down and had margaritas with... that guy we deported to the El Salvador prison down there, but he was seen at a table.
SPEAKER 16 :
He might be their dumbest congressperson outside Hawaii. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Anyway, so he's just had a full seven minutes, and he's been interrogating our Secretary of State, our new Secretary, Marco Rubio, on things he's done with USAID and about revoking student visas. And so now it's Marco Rubio's turn to, to respond. And Marco Rubio, Secretary Rubio has the floor and Senator Van Hollen's time is expired. But apparently Senator Van Hollen doesn't like that because he doesn't get to talk anymore. So here's Marco Rubio destroying Senator Van Hollen with his rebuttal to all the charges and claims that Senator Van Hollen made. So let's play Marco Rubio.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I have to tell you directly and personally, that I regret voting for you for Secretary of State. I yield back.
SPEAKER 23 :
Can I respond?
SPEAKER 12 :
You may, sir.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me confirms I'm doing a good job based on what I know.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's just a flippant statement, Mr. Secretary.
SPEAKER 23 :
Can I respond, Mr. Chairman?
SPEAKER 12 :
You may.
SPEAKER 23 :
I didn't ask a question.
SPEAKER 14 :
Senator, please let the Secretary have the floor.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'd be happy to, but then I can respond to his...
SPEAKER 14 :
Your time's up, Senator, and woefully used, I might add. Your remarks do not represent the view of this committee.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, Mr. Chairman... Secretary, please... Well, I'd like to... I can't respond to everything he said because much of these are untrue, but I'll go through a few. First of all, I'm actually very proud of the work we've done with USAID. For example, I don't regret cutting $10 million for male circumcisions in Mozambique. I don't know how that makes us stronger and more prosperous as a nation. I don't regret psychosocial support services for USAID. I raise two hands, Mr. Secretary, not Mozambique.
SPEAKER 14 :
Senator, do I... Senator, I'd ask you to suspend. You had seven straight minutes.
SPEAKER 12 :
I chose to use my time that way, Mr. Chairman. That's my right to use my time that way. Please suspend, Secretary Rubio.
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, I can go on. I mean, there's other things here. We spent $227,000 for Big Cat's YouTube channel from USAID. We spent $14 million for social cohesion in Mali, whatever the hell that means. So I can go on and on. I got the list here and there's more. I didn't even bring the whole list. In the case of El Salvador, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. We deported gang members, gang members, including the one you had a margarita with. And that guy is a human trafficker, and that guy is a gangbanger, and the evidence is going to be clear in the days to come.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Rubio has the floor.
SPEAKER 14 :
Mr. Chairman, he can't make unsubstantiated comments like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor.
SPEAKER 12 :
Secretary Rubio should take that testimony to the federal court of the United States because he hasn't done it under oath.
SPEAKER 23 :
Here's another point, okay? There is a division in our government between the federal branch and the judicial branch. No judge and the judicial branch cannot tell me or the president how to conduct foreign policy. No judge can tell me how I have to outreach to a foreign partner or what I need to say to them. And if I do reach that foreign partner and talk to them, I have under no obligation to share that with the judiciary branch. Just like a judge cannot order me to negotiate with a foreign minister of Russia, they cannot order me to negotiate with a foreign minister or the president of El Salvador. And if I did negotiate with them, which we have responded to them, and we've told them we've had communications with the president of El Salvador, I am under no obligation under our division of powers in this country to share with the judicial branch how I conducted diplomacy of the United States. It would actually be counterproductive. If I started sharing with courts, or frankly, with the media, my conversations with foreign leaders and all of their details, no foreign leader would talk to me again, and we would break trust with them. So I have complied with every court order. What I won't comply with is in order to disclose what I'm saying and what we're talking about with a foreign leader, because then they won't talk to me. Diplomacy doesn't work that way. About the student visas, let me say this. I don't deport anybody, and I don't snatch anybody. The State Department does not have officers in the streets snatching everybody. What I do is revoke visas, and it's very simple. A visa is not a right. It is a privilege. People apply for student visas to come into the United States and study. And if you tell me that you're coming to the United States to lead campus crusades, to take over libraries and burn down, try to burn down buildings and acts of violence, we're not going to give you a visa.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is that what Ms. Osdorff did?
SPEAKER 23 :
We're not going to give you a visa.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is that what she did? Come on, Mr. Secretary. You're just blowing smoke here now.
SPEAKER 23 :
The bottom line is if you're coming here to stir up trouble on our campuses, we will deny you a visa.
SPEAKER 12 :
Does the First Amendment apply to people living in the United States?
SPEAKER 23 :
We're going to do more. There are more coming. We're going to continue to revoke the visas of people who are here as guests and are disrupting our higher education facilities. People are paying money. These kids pay money to go to school, and they have to walk through a bunch of lunatics who are here on the student visa.
SPEAKER 12 :
Simple as that.
SPEAKER 23 :
I want to do more. I hope we can find more of these people. That's pathetic, Mr. Secretary. In fact, the other day, some guys led a riot. I forgot what university it was. And I asked, please, can you find the arrest records of all the people that were arrested at that riot at that campus? Because if any of them have a visa, we're going to revoke it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I feel so much safer to lock up people like Ms. Osterk, Mr. Secretary.
SPEAKER 14 :
We've had enough time on the subject. Thank you very much. Joe, this is how good he is.
SPEAKER 16 :
The only way that they can deal with him is to try to silence him or talk over him. They cannot let him speak because he's going to crush them. This guy is one of the most brilliant speakers of my lifetime.
SPEAKER 15 :
I love the guy, and I think you mentioned you'd like to see him. You know, when the next when 2028 election comes around, we're assuming that Vance will be the nominee. Oh, I would love to see Rubio as the VP.
SPEAKER 16 :
I believe he will be. I believe it's going to be Vance Rubio. And there and the reason is, well, there are many reasons. First of all, they're the only two that Donald Trump has touted. OK, he was asked who would replace you. And those are the two names he brought up right away. Now, Joe, you got to give me just a second, because I guarantee right now they're out there listening to me. A bunch of disgruntled Republicans who say Gang of Eight. He let us down with the Gang of Eight. He pushed he helped push through the Gang of Eight proposal, which was basically amnesty. OK, guys. Let me answer, and I'm asking you, please, be calm for a moment and let me answer that. It's easy to answer. The Gang of Eight was a very bad thing. It was a very bad deal for America. Rubio knew that. Rubio worked on the Gang of Eight because this was during the time of Obama. And he worked on it because, as he predicted... if we didn't have the Gang of Eight deal, Obama was going to push through a worse one called executive amnesty. So he tried to, he'd worked on the Gang of Eight to head off executive amnesty. And Rubio predicted Obama's move absolutely perfectly to a T. And that is the only reason he did that. And ever since the Gang of Eight has passed, and ever since those days, Rubio's version of, of immigration policy has been almost identical to Donald Trump's. And now today, if you want anybody who is a great explainer of Donald Trump's immigration policy after Tom Holman, it would be Marco Rubio.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. And by the way, and, you know, Von Hollen tried to say, well, she wrote an op-ed. Is that why she's being deported? He glosses over the fact that no, she was deported. had her visa revoked as being deported because she blocked people from entering the library, and she took over a building. The fact that she wrote an op-ed was irrelevant and incidental, but you think Von Hollen's going to bring that up? No, he's going to try to make it He's going to try to... The narrative is you're deporting her because she wrote a critical op-ed. No, the op-ed had nothing to do with why her visa was revoked.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and by the way, he says, well, she has free speech. She has free speech. What? She's here on a student visa. Yeah. She is here on a privilege. And what is she doing? She's using that as an opportunity to attack the people, giving her the privilege and basically calling our nation racist, hatred, hateful, and that we are supporting genocide at the hands of the Jews. No, no, you have no right to stay here. Get out.
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead, Joe. Anyway, so I don't realize how many listeners know how active Rubio has been And what a fantastic job he's been doing and the kind of pressure and attacks that he's been fending off. But I thought he's wearing three or four hats. Yeah. And he's right. And he took over the intelligence director job for a time being there for a couple of months. We had a vacancy, but he's been doing a phenomenal job. I love the way he's doing his job. And I hope people who have never heard him or been aware of what he's been doing have a new appreciation for how effective Marco Rubio is in the job he's doing.
SPEAKER 16 :
He is the greatest Secretary of State since Kissinger.
SPEAKER 15 :
Madeleine Albright wasn't bad. Nope, she wasn't bad either. So Madeleine Albright, Kissinger, and Rubio, that's a great company to be mentioned as part of. Yep, I'm fine with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, what's next, sir?
SPEAKER 15 :
How long before another break?
SPEAKER 16 :
About four minutes. Do you want to...
SPEAKER 15 :
We'll tell you, let's play it real quick. Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, he's at Cambridge University, and then some young snot-nosed college student starts to challenge him on how Israel's a bad guy. They're the bad guy in the Gaza War, and we should be condemning Israel. Here's Charlie Kirk. response to this. And by the way, this guy must be hopped up. He's literally bouncing up and down. He's standing up. He's not sitting. He's bouncing up. He's at a microphone. And he's literally hopping back and forth from one foot to the other. If you could see the video, it's hilarious. So let's play Charlie Kirk responding to this claim that Israel is the bad guy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me ask you, in the conflict of Israel versus Hamas, who's the good guy?
SPEAKER 04 :
I believe both Hamas and the Israeli government are evil. But I think also There is no justification for the murder and mutilation of thousands of innocent people and children. There is no justification for invading hospitals, for bombing innocent populations and dragging out a war which is damaging Israel and the West. You've made that point. It's not a point, it's a moral truth, isn't it?
SPEAKER 05 :
It was also a moral truth that the war started because 1,300 Jews were killed and 200 were taken hostage. And when you declare war on Israel, expect a firestorm in reaction. Let me finish. I let you talk. Israel, at its holiest day of the calendar year besides Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah, Samat Torah, the 50-year anniversary of the Six-Day War. On Shabbat, Hamas invaded Israel, deciding to go recklessly to music concerts, to homes, to kibbutzes, and taking 200-plus hostages. They knew what they were doing. In one of the most cloistered urban environments on the planet, two million people live in a place where it's impossible to wage war. Impossible. Where they wear civilian clothing, they violate every tenet of the Geneva Convention, and the IDF, when they do something right, they get no credit. When they do life-saving surgeries of a Gazan child, they get no credit. When they drive leaflets, drop leaflets, they get no credit. But when they happen to bomb a place where they are operating their military from, which we now know from third-party verified sources, hundreds of Hamas military operations are in mosques, schools and hospitals. I'm sorry, the country where they were living in relative peace on October 6, that all of a sudden we had a war and Hamas started the war. And I don't see people that were really upset about the two million Germans that were killed in World War II, civilians. A tragic truth of war is that civilians die. I don't like it and you don't like it. And they brought it upon themselves. The only operation at NTD to blame is the leadership of Hamas, not the Israeli government, for fighting this defensive war after they were invaded. There is a good guy and there is a bad guy. I honestly... Isn't that the morality of a child? Well, hold on. It's interesting you say that. Because a child who knows that Israel is the good guy and Hamas is bad has a lot more wisdom than a student like yourself at Cambridge University.
SPEAKER 16 :
My goodness, Joe, if the enemy is going to be hiding in hospitals, in mosques, and in these places, look, if you don't shoot them there, then where is the enemy always going to cloister?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's not like Germany and Japan where they had Air Force bases and arms factories. You know, they literally had tunnels under hospitals, tunnels under schools. They wore civilian clothing there. So what are you going to say? Oh, your base of operation is under a hospital. I guess we're going to leave you alone. You can't do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, you can't do that. Let me tell you something, Joe. Sorry to interrupt, but I'm angry for a moment. I'm going to turn it back to you. But Joe... This guy who's talking to him right now knows all of this. He is a tool of Hamas. When he says, oh, they're both evil, that's equivocating, okay? He knows that one side is evil and the other side is good. He does not care. He wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth, okay? That is what this guy wants. and he knows full well that Israel could not fight the war in the ways that he is saying that they need to fight the war. Oh, Israel, you've got to be pinpoint targeting everything and not taking out the innocents. First of all, who are the innocents? You have no idea over there, okay? You have no idea who's carrying a bomb. You have no idea. Look, and meanwhile, the combatants are hiding in all the places that you're told you can't bomb. Forget that. This guy is asking Israel to fight in a way. Why? Why? Because he wants them to lose.
SPEAKER 15 :
He wants Israel to lose. He wants Hamas to succeed. He wants the Houthis to succeed. Yes. So, you know, clearly, whether he will admit it or not, the guy's clearly an anti-Semite. Oh, totally. And he's on the side of Hamas like so many U.S. college students are on the side of Hamas. And, by the way, I played a clip a couple of weeks ago of somebody was interviewing these U.S. college students when they had all these signs like from the river to the sea. And the interviewer says, well, you know, what does that mean, from the river to the sea? And they look at each other, they don't have a clue. And what it means is from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, which means, I'm sorry, to the Red Sea, rather, which means that's where Israel, the country of Israel exists, between the Jordan River and the Red Sea. So when they say from the river to the sea, that basically means we want to wipe Israel off the face of the map. And these people had, and what's the charter of Hamas? And they had no clue. The charter of Hamas clearly states it's the elimination of all jews and they had no clue what they were supporting it's like oh you know after they were explained to them what they were advocating what their signs meant you know and again karl marx and lennon refer to these people as useful idiots uh and that's what this kid is and what so many unfortunately u.s college students are basically useful idiots
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm telling you what, Joe, none of the supporters. Look, we got to keep in mind, folks, Hamas is not just some little rogue group within that region. They won the elections there. OK, the majority voted and a strong majority voted for these people who are calling for the extermination of the Jews.
SPEAKER 15 :
Of an entire country, of an entire people.
SPEAKER 16 :
Of an entire people next to you. And by the way, then they went and tried to do it. OK, they slaughtered, you know, 1300 people and took 200. You know, this is ridiculous. How can this be allowed? Look, here's my message to Israel. Wipe them off that area completely and don't let any of them back in. Period. What do you mean? Civilians, too? There are no civilians because you can't figure out who is who. There is no way to know who are the innocents.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would drop leaflets. Move them all out. Starting a week from Thursday. They did. Yes. And there's going to be nothing left standing a week from Thursday. So you got seven days to get out. Because seven days from now, there'll be nothing left.
SPEAKER 16 :
Israel dropped those leaflets. They did. They dropped the leaflets and said, leave, leave, leave, leave. Now, let me ask you something. Did Hamas drop leaflets before they attacked?
SPEAKER 26 :
Of course not.
SPEAKER 16 :
No. They raped and killed and beheaded. Okay? And meanwhile, Israel is dropping leaflets saying, we just don't want you here anymore. We don't want you in a spot where you are able to launch these attacks and kill our people. And rape our women and murder our children.
SPEAKER 15 :
There were seven major population centers in the Gaza Strip. And they went one by one and they dropped leaflets and said, hey, we're going to bomb this population center in 48 hours. So if you're in this population center, get out and don't be here because in two days we're going to bomb the crap out of it. Hamas never did anything like that. And if people stayed, that's on them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And then you listen to the student. who's trying to take on Charlie Kirk, and here he is backing up the people. Oh, no, no, no, I'm playing it even. Both sides are guilty. Don't give me that. No, both sides are not guilty, okay? He's trying to play it like that, and Charlie Kirk's got to be looking at him like, and knowing, Charlie Kirk knows in his heart as he's listening to this guy, you want the Jews slaughtered off the face of the planet.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. And let me ask you a question. The last three clips we played, the Charlie Kirk, the Marco Rubio clip, And the Chris Wright clip. You know, I'm an avid watcher of the news. I'm up at 5 o'clock in the morning. I watch the national news, and then I watch the local news. I do that in the morning. And then in the evening, I watch the national news and the local news. So I'm watching four news shows a day. I watch 60 Minutes on Sundays. So, you know, 14 plus – I'm watching 15 news programs a week. I've never heard any of those things on the network news. Why do you think that is, Nandy?
SPEAKER 16 :
Because they, too, want the Jews wiped off the face of the planet. Well, I know we're talking about more than the Jewish issue here. We're talking about all this. Because the networks are all an activist agenda. They're all part of it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And that's why, by the way, on my podcast, I call it news in perspective you won't hear on TV. Because virtually, I don't talk about things that have been beaten to death. You know, I don't talk about the Trump tariffs, you know, because it's all over the place. I talk about things like this that you'll never hear about, but you should hear about.
SPEAKER 16 :
Actually, my favorite stuff of yours is your tax stuff. I know that sounds boring to other people, but to me, your tax stuff is brilliant. Really quick here, how do people hear you?
SPEAKER 15 :
How do they reach you? If you go on any of the major podcast platforms, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Just do a search for Jersey Joe, and it's Jersey spelled J-E-R as in Robert, Z as in zebra, E-E. J-E-R-Z-E-E, Jersey Joe. And you'll find my – it's a once-a-week podcast. It's 30 minutes, and you can get it at any major podcast platform. If you want to go right to the website, you can listen to it on the website and back episodes. It's JerseyJoe.com. Just remember to spell Jersey with an R, a Z, and two Es. And if you want to be put on my weekly distribution list, when we do our podcast, which I recorded this week's podcast tonight – It'll publish tomorrow morning. If you want to get it via email in your inbox, just send me an email to joe at jerseyjoe.com and request to be put on our distribution list. And I will send you a link to our weekly podcast every Wednesday morning.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's afternoon rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, who will be back tomorrow. And on the line right now, we've got Jersey Joe. Joe, what else you got?
SPEAKER 15 :
We only got a couple minutes, but let me talk about scary behavior by some of these new AI models. Now, A year ago, the first one was ChatGPT. Everybody thought that was the first big AI model. And now there's four or five. You know, Elon Musk got Grok and Bill Gates. You know, Microsoft has one. You know, there's four or five. And they're raising billions of dollars. And AI is artificial intelligence. These are thinking, you know, supposedly software programs that can think and get creative and be creative. Well... some people that were developing one, and they isolated it from the Internet, by the way, so it couldn't access the Internet. It can only access data they fed it. And they did some tests to see how far this model would go to preserve itself, and what they found was scary. So the model literally resorted to blackmail and the generation of malicious software code in an effort to preserve its own existence. So what they did, they allowed the AI model to access documents that included fake proposals to shut it down and fake information about one of the developers having an extramarital affair. Well, in an effort to preserve its own existence, the model first threatened to make that developer's alleged affair public. So it basically sent a private message, hey, if you don't protect me, I'm going to let the whole world know about your extramarital affair. They tried to blackmail the developer. And then, this is really scary, and they said, we found instances of the model attempting to write self-propagating malicious worms, fabricating legal documentation, and leaving hidden notes to future instances of itself, all in an effort to undermine its developers' intentions. How many... books and movies and science fiction stories have we seen? And I'm going to go all the way back to 2001, A Space Odyssey. Remember Hal and Dave said, open the doors? And Hal said, sorry, Dave, I can't do that. Yeah. And then you had the Terminator movies where the Skynet became Skynet. This has been, so now we have, we've gone from science fiction to models actually starting to do this on their own, fight, you know, to do things to preserve their own existence. And how scary is that?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty scary. Or they might run for Congress. They might run for Congress. I'm just telling you it's possible, Joe. I mean, they seem to have the goods.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Hey, we probably have, what, a minute left? Yeah. My quote of the week, our old friend, economist Thomas Sowell, on the reaction of people who have been receiving preferential treatment in the past and then have suddenly had that preferential treatment removed. And here's this quote, when people get used to preferential treatment and then they are suddenly treated as equal, that seems to them like discrimination.
SPEAKER 16 :
That is really good.
SPEAKER 15 :
That is really good. We're so used to having preferential. Now you're being treated the same as everybody else. And the first thing you scream is discrimination. We're being discriminated against because they took something away from us that we used to have.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, that's fantastic. Hey, let me ask you something because we've got about 45 seconds here.
SPEAKER 1 :
2028.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think it's going to be Vance Rubio, and I think they're going to be unstoppable. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think you're 100%. Well, I think you're correct, and I hope you're correct because I think— We never know for sure.
SPEAKER 16 :
Things can happen, but—
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, unless the economy goes in the toilet, and remember, James Carb was the economy stupid. But, you know, if the things that Trump has done with the tariffs work out and employment stays good and we're not in a recession and inflation is under control, I think it's a slam dunk. In fact, I hope by the midterms, which are only, what, 18 months away?
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I hope we get all this, you know, inflation and tariff and free trade stuff done. that we gain even more seats in the House and more seats in the Senate. And again, we've only got between now, if we lose the Senate, God forbid, then we're going to lose two Supreme Court justices, I think, by the end of next term.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think, honestly, I think the odds of losing the Senate are 10%. Right. I don't think we'll expand, but I don't think we'll lose at the House. I don't know. All right. That's Jersey Joe. Joe, I got to let you go. Thanks, sir. All right. Thanks, Andy. I'll talk to you. Bye-bye. You bet. Folks, that is it for today. Hour One replays next. John Rush is back tomorrow. We're all looking forward to him for Health and Wellness Wednesday. Until then, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
In this thought-provoking conversation, Britta Horn sheds light on the complexities of modern political landscapes in Colorado. As the state GOP Chair, she delves into financial audits, spreading influence with new office locations, and galvanizing grassroots efforts to ensure Republican success in future elections. Tune in to hear how the GOP plans to redefine its presence across the state, and tackle pressing issues like education and parental control, all while staying true to their values and reaching out to garner public support.
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And I'm your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush today. Welcome to everybody coming back from your Memorial Day weekend. And joining me today, of course, is Tanner Cole. Man. And we're going to have a lot of fun today. On the line right now, joining us to kick it off is Colorado Republican State Chair Britta Horn. Britta, did you have a great weekend?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, I'm having a great weekend. It's hard to say that it's over already.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know. It was incredible. Let me guess, you were running around as usual.
SPEAKER 16 :
As usual, you're right. I didn't take the pedal off, my foot off the pedal. Is that how it's called? Yeah, it's been that kind of a weekend.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I want to ask you, Britta, as many barbecues as you've had to go to, have you eaten anything from a stove?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's pretty funny. A little bit more now. Like I said, the weekend, it did slow down a little, but I still managed to get work done. But you're right. Every time I'm on the road, I seem to like beef jerky, so send more beef jerky and sparkling waters.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Beef jerky and sparkling waters. You know, you can survive the apocalypse on that. It's going to be Britta Horn and the cockroaches. That is it. That's all who's going to live on this planet after the bomb drops. Okay, well, Britta, I got some questions. Let's jump right in. Obviously, there's a big controversy. It isn't so big to me, but it is for a lot of people, and that is the satellite offices. You've moved out of your central office here in Denver, and you've moved to a number of branch offices throughout the state. How does that work? What are the kind of the costs? Can you kind of walk us through it and why you decided to go with that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Sure, sure. I've been, like, very vocal about this from the very beginning. It was part of my campaign to say, we don't need this central office anymore. And I know people agree or disagree. It's been around for 15-plus years. It's, you know, I get these questions. They're like, it's a low rental rate. No, it wasn't. It was just about $4,900 plus, plus, plus with Internet and then one employee and one volunteer. It just... It didn't do anything. It was storage. It just wasn't doing anything. And maybe it did years ago, Andy, maybe it really did. So it's fine. But now we're a much more mobile community, much more mobile, even culture. So we've been looking at and getting offices across the state and they're not virtual, they're physical offices. So let's go, you know, throw that rumor out the way either. So we have our first one down and we opened it up last week and it was the Colorado Republicans. At the Peak Republicans office down at 4141 Sinton Avenue in Colorado Springs off of North Academy. We're sharing an office there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
And then we're looking at other ones. And other ones we're still in negotiations with. But still, the multiple ones we're going to have are still not going to cost the total cost of the one.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, Tanner's really upset, though, because he was actually living on a cot in the back of the Colorado GOP office. You probably didn't notice him back there.
SPEAKER 16 :
The door was always shut. But there was a Christmas tree over there.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was in the closet, actually.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, he was in a closet, actually. The tree hid the door. And that was really, really handy for him. But you're saying that these offices, they're actually going to cost less combined? In the total of one. Why is that? Is that because of just the expensive nature of the Denver Metro? Or is it because of the size of the spaces or the usage? How's that going to work?
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, because not only the size, but also what we need and what we're going to be able to work with with other counties as well. So, like I said, Kick Republicans is a business, and we're able to work with them together and just take a portion of the cost because we're sharing it. The other ones we're talking about, we're talking to county chairs, and it is legal. That's another rumor we have to put out. It is legal for sports. state party and county parties to cohabitate and have the same office. I mean, it happens all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so the Colorado Republican Party believes in cohabitation. Is that kind of what you're saying? Let me see if I can get the headline out here. Okay, I'll send that out to Colopoles right away.
SPEAKER 16 :
What's the other word we use? We can co-share, okay. We're allowed to have the same key and go in an office and get work done.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, actually, Britt, I saw quite a bit of that. There's been a lot of usage, even by the state party, in the past of the Jeffco office because they have such an enormous meeting room, for instance. There you go. Yeah, I mean, if somebody just has a really good property and can share it with you, and this gives you greater reach into those areas of the state that had gone unnoticed in the past, why not?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, not like unnoticed. Well, first of all, just let me clear also, when Trump victory came in both times, 16 and 20, they also shared the space with the state party. So this is allowed. And here's what we're working on as well. When we get to the ones that are the ones of the CDs that we want to make sure we hold on to, like all four of them, when we put an office in that area, there's a really good wink, wink, nod, nod, 99-plus percent chance that the RNC will pay for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh. Oh.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that would be because it's going to be helping right in an area hold one of those four seats. Now, wait a minute. Are all four of these going to be located in those districts, CD3?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, there will be more than four, but we're working towards that goal. Or some are going to be. There's been an idea. Well, more than four. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I had heard four satellites. But you're saying more than four possibly?
SPEAKER 16 :
Four CDs. Yeah, there's going to be more than four. There's four CDs that we have Republicans in, right? Now, how are you going to man them with your staffing? That's exactly it. With field directors, with regional field directors, we're paying people to be in these offices to do the work. Knocking on doors, making phone calls, building community, having pizza parties, having coffee parties, getting volunteers to work for all the candidates in that area. I mean, all politics are local. So why wouldn't we do this? Get out there, boots on the ground, and get to work. And then we're also getting help at the RNC with that as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Tanner has already expressed interest in the pizza parties. And is there a room in the back with a cot?
SPEAKER 16 :
I would have to look at it. We'll look for that for him and see if there's a room for Cannon. We'll figure it out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, anyway, it sounds like a pretty good idea. I don't know about it yet. I've got to see it actually happen in action, just so you know. I mean, there was an advantage to having that central location. However, let's face it, it wasn't that central. Okay, it's a big state. But do you know exactly what cities that you are targeting right now or are you still negotiating?
SPEAKER 16 :
We're just still negotiating. There's a couple in Denver now. We're looking, like you said, Montezuma is offered for us. We're looking at that one as well. But we know we need to be in Grand Junction. I'm going to be there next week and be looking at a couple of places. We're looking up in Larimer County, working with Larimer County GOP. We're working with Welk County, Welk GOP. Great people. Looking for places up there. Yeah, like you said, we're working for places that, you know, that definitely have, you know, want to work together. Let's go forward and let's get this plan together, which is that focus that we want to talk about for 25 and 26 and our summer plan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, well, let's get to another topic that's very important to me, as you know, the forensic audit. I wanted. OK, and this isn't just to beat up your predecessors. Forget that for a second. I just want to know where the money is. I want to know exactly where all the money has been going. What's happening? What do you expect to find with your forensic audit? Do you know yet who's going to conduct it or does that even matter at this point? What are we looking at?
SPEAKER 16 :
We're looking at that. We definitely are committed to making sure we're doing it right. So when we do it right, and you know this, it takes time to do it right. So, yes, we're looking at a lot of different pieces. You have an audit committee that's part of the bylaws committee. Then you have an auditor, the person that looks at the audit. We have the people at RedCurve that's doing the financial audit. compliance firm that's moving forward, but we decided, based on their their professional advice and also doing it right. We didn't want to just go month to month and putting out information, because one of that information was going to be accurate they're still looking back the last two years to try to make sure that number is accurate. So we're going from quarter to quarter, which is legally allowed by the FEC to report out. So we're doing it because we want to report out accurate information. As for going backwards, oh, sorry.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, that's actually where I was going. You're ahead of me. I want to know how far back you're going to go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hold on. When you see that line of demarcation of what happened after April 1 and we're going back, we are working on an auditor to work with that, still working on negotiations with that. And whether that's going to include a forensic audit or do we need a forensic auditor, a separate person to do that? Because we're going to go back to two years because that's the job. The job is to have an audit. But we're finding out it hasn't been done for many every two-year terms. It just hasn't happened for a long time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've heard it's been like a decade or something.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right right so like we're going to keep going back as far as we can, but we don't really find some answers, but we have to keep looking and being focused forward and 25 and 26 so there's a balancing act of how far we're going to go back. and the money it's going to take to go back to do all the work that these other chairs were all supposed to do and haven't done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Summer plans. Obviously, you know, the campaigns never end, and summer is coming up. What is the party planning on doing to start getting people excited this summer?
SPEAKER 16 :
So this summer, exactly. Having these regional offices open, making sure we're getting politics as local, and working on all committed Republican candidates in non-partisan races. That's for school board, that's for water board, that's for fire board, that's for rec board, all those different things. So we're going to be able to do a soft launch, a soft way of how we're going to be doing 26 in a big way, but definitely get it started, get boots on the ground and show the plan with regional fire field directors, which with regional or just not just regional, but then the regular field directors and volunteers to help all those candidates that are committed Republican conservative candidates.
SPEAKER 06 :
Britt, really quick here, looking at the school boards, how can we get our school board candidates, how can we break through to this Colorado public and let them know basically this, and this is a line I always say, but use whatever message you want, but it's got to be something like this. Your child's success is our only agenda. OK, and I think that's what really sets us apart from the Democrats. And that's what I don't think Coloradans understand. They think Republicans want to come in and shove our agenda down their kids' throats while Democrats want to. And then Coloradans just sit back and say, well, let's just pick the agenda we like. And Colorado socially leans left for the most part. And so they go with the Dems. How can we help them understand? No, no, no, no, no. We don't want anyone's agenda on your kids except your kid going out there and kicking ass in the free market.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. I think that's a definitely overarching one that we could definitely all use because you're right. We want the success of the Colorado children growing up and being proficient in all their classes because we're finding out the percentages or we're in like single digits for so many. But I know also there's no way we can get away with not having that issue of 1312. you know, that we're fighting back on the trans issue because we don't want this in our school. So I think there's still a fight in everybody, even though there's not legislation going on. This is national. I mean, people are coming in from all over the nation wanting to come into Colorado and help us fight back on that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah, but you see, there's a Britta Britta. There's another. Sorry to interrupt, but we got time here. There's another example, though, the left shoving their agenda into the schools. Okay? And basically pushing parents out and shoving their agenda in. Look, as you may know, I'm a born-again right-wing evangelical Christian, okay? I'm a right-wing wacko. I'm the scariest person on planet Earth. I understand that, okay? I don't want to force your kids to learn my values, okay? You know what I'm saying? In your schools. I don't want to make your kids me, so why does the other polis and all the people on the other side want to make your kids them?
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And I think that's the fight that we need to find and find a more school board director for school board candidates, because I think everybody's like frustrated and their parents and they haven't run before and they don't know how. And we just need to help find them and and help them say we'll be here. Whatever resources we can get you and get your training, we can get your tools, we can get you. Like I said, people boots on the ground to help knock on doors with that, because really that's what we should be doing in our communities is talking to everybody and having those conversations. Because I was thinking about the other part, about the other rule. Remember that one where their law about the summer camps. I mean, that's happening right now.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Summer camps are closing down if they can't get this, you know, lawsuits reversed and these bills reversed because no one's going to send their kids to these these camps. And so the parents have got to be getting fed up enough and saying, OK, what do I need to do? And we'll be there to help.
SPEAKER 06 :
Can you explain to me why don't Democrats want parents in charge? Sorry to ask you to go political, but you're leading a political party, so I'm going to do it. I'm going to put you on the spot. Okay?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I mean, I think there's just like, you know, they know better than us. And I think that's just change. And that's not true. We're seeing in Gen X. are Gen Z now, the younger ones that are just right now, they're all getting very, very faith-based. They're looking for family. They want to have a lot of kids. They're homeschooling. They're doing a lot of different ways of educating because they're finding out that what's been going on at school, they don't want any part of that public school. So I just see a change going back to it, but there just seemed to be a time there that, you know, here's my kid, you take care of them. But I'm not from that. I don't think you're from that. And when I raised my daughters, we didn't do that. It was our responsibility to raise our children, you know, to give the values we wanted. We didn't send them to school for values. We just sent them to school for reading, writing, and arithmetic. And it wasn't anything else. And I saw that towards the high school years. And like you said, one's 28, one's 30. But when they were in high school, I started seeing the last few years of high school that it was changing to that. Like you said, there was just like not only just the school, but the teachers' union knew better than the parents. I think that's where it probably came from.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I just don't think a bureaucrat should be raising your kid, okay? And this could be the greatest bureaucrat or teacher or whatever in the world. That's okay. But guess what? You've got 10 kids in front of you. They all have 10 sets of parents, and those parents all see life differently. Okay, which way are you going to pick and impose on them? I just don't think it's fair. Britta, I think you've got a phenomenal message. I love the fact that you're targeting the schools coming this fall because that is so important. Really quick here, how can people help you guys out? How can they throw a little money in the kitty, which I did today, by the way? How can they do that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you very much for doing that. So, yeah, it's going over to our website, cologop.org, and there's a click-on button there. You can definitely click and contribute there. If you'd like to be at our Capital Club lunch, we're going to be at Maggiano's this Thursday, and that's always a big fundraiser for us as well as everybody hearing updates not only from me but also legislators that will be visiting us. So if you need an RFVP link, that's at info, I-N-F-O, at go.org. Oh, no, C-O-L-O-G-O-P.org. and we'll send over the reservation link. We'd love to see everybody there talk about these questions, talk about these regional offices. This is something really different, Andrew. You've got to really think about that. This is not coming from a central office. This is having regional offices, boots on the ground across the state, and to elect more Republicans, grow the party, and raise massive amounts of money for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, basically you're doing what Kash Patel is doing with the FBI. Get them out in the field.
SPEAKER 16 :
Amen. Amen. And this is the way it's always been in other states. And when I worked for Trump 2020 down in New Mexico, this is how it was done.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Britta Horn, Colorado GOP chair, thank you so much for joining us. Can we get you back next month? Sure. Happy to come back. See how I get you? I lock you in like that. Britta, thank you so much. You take care. Thank you, gentlemen. Bye now. You bet. Bye. Okay, folks, I'll take a quick break. Up next is Dr. Scott Faulkner. Get a doctor who listens only to you, not big pharma, not big insurance, just you. For a total approach to your total health, call Dr. Scott at 303-663-6990.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush is out today. He will be back tomorrow. This is Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. And Tanner, really quick, we've just got a couple minutes because after the break we've got Richard Rush coming. We're going to talk a little Broncos, a little Nuggets the rest of the hour. It's going to be a lot of fun. A little NFL. But first... No tax on tips. That is going to happen now, okay? All of the Senate has approved it. The House is putting it through. Trump is obviously going to sign it. He's led the way. Let me ask you something. When this goes through and you know that everywhere you go and you tip somebody, they don't have to pay taxes on it, are you going to tip less?
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, I already feel like with, I was at brunch this weekend, I'm trying to think of another time, but even at a baseball game, you go and buy a beer, they ask for a tip. And like, if I go to the same person, I might tip them a couple, or let's say I go three times for three beers. I'll probably tip them two out of three times because I feel almost obligated. It's a lot of money just on tips for something like that.
SPEAKER 1 :
$14, $15.
SPEAKER 14 :
How much are the beers? $14 probably, which is the problem. But then even I went to brunch and I'm like spending almost $10 on tips. I had a plate of breakfast food and a drink and I'm paying almost $10. So if you could just type in your own tip, it'd be easier. And I think people, I'm sure some people do it. I just feel bad about not giving them, you know, 15% minimum, even if they didn't do anything.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, you just hit on something. You feel bad about not giving them 15% minimum, which means that you normally tip more than that. And I got to tell you something. First of all, and some people are going to get angry at me. Go ahead and get angry. Republicans tip more on average. I know there's no question. OK, I managed at a casino for a better part of a decade. Trust me. On average, the more conservative it's not an absolute. But on average, the more conservative customers tip very well. My now my my dad and sister, of course, are Democrats and tip spectacularly well. So it's not an absolute. But me, I'm a big tipper. Okay, I tip like 30%. I do. I'm crazy. And the reason is this. We Republicans love... The person who works and earns their living and doesn't sit at home waiting for a government check. They're out there busting their ass. We appreciate that. However, now they're going to keep a much higher percentage of that. And I'm going to be honest, I don't personally think they should. I don't like this plan. I don't think that we should have targeted tax cuts where this group gets to keep more and that group doesn't. You don't work for tips here at KLZ. You're not going to get a dime more and you're busting your tail.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, you see, and that's the second you give that kind of a break to somebody, you don't give it to somebody else who's worth it just as much. It's not that you're saying they're not worth it. It's not that you don't care about them. It's that they work really hard and so do you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, what kind of still I'm I mean, maybe it's just more me because I try to save as much money as I can, especially still trying to get out of this terrible economy we're in. But if they're making eighteen dollars an hour, but then also receiving tips and they're doing about five, six, I mean, five to ten tables, let's say an hour. That's a lot of money per hour compared to what I might be making or what their base salary is. Grand, you get the restaurants where the tip is a collective pool or there's that scumbag owner or manager who happens to take a majority of it. But for the most part, they're getting, like, you know, they could be getting $40, $50 an hour, which is great money.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what the minimum is now in L.A.?
SPEAKER 1 :
$38.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dollars an hour? Yeah. Something like that. I saw the article in passing, so I'm not exactly sure of the amount, but it's something absolutely crazy. They're going to crush business there. Tell you what, let's go to break because when Richard comes back, I want to ask him this. I want to ask Richard and you how you guys think tips are going to be affected by this law. Sound good?
SPEAKER 14 :
Sounds good.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, along with Tanner Cole. And on the line right now, we've got Richard Rush. Richard, before we even go into the sports, I've got questions for you. But really quick, on our topic we were just discussing. You know, no tax on tips just went through. And I want to ask you two questions. Number one, Richard, do you expect to, will this affect how much you tip people knowing that they don't have to pay taxes on their tips? And number two, do you think nationwide maybe tips will go down a little?
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I do think they'll go down, Andy. I don't know if it's a lot, but I do think it'll go down because people, it's just a natural thing, right? You hear about it, oh, you know, I'm going to tip a little bit less or whatever it might be. However, Andy, I will say this, and this has nothing to do with the people that earn the tips, but the tipping nonsense, and the only reason I say nonsense is, Andy, you go to, you put an order in online for pickups. and you there's a spot for tipping which i get you know they're still tipped workers and such but isn't the whole point of like tipping and i know you worked in an industry where tipping was a thing in the casino industry oh i thought you meant when i was i thought you meant when i was dancing to put myself through school but go ahead andy two two two separate lives two separate lives but yet like i think it you know tipping like i'll just say like you sort of have to earn it, right? Like, there's this idea that, you know, you're serving someone as you're doing an extra, you know, right, you're making sure that your water glass is full and you don't have to ask for a refill and these sorts of things. And again, I don't want to, you know, because it sounds bad, right? Well, you're just being a, you know what, because you're wanting this
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Richard, at a casino or at a restaurant where it's a sit-down restaurant and somebody's taking care of you, that person who's helping you at the casino or at the restaurant, they are part of your total experience there. When you're just getting takeout and going in and grabbing the food and leaving, nothing against that person working the counter. They are a bit of your experience, but only for a second. How are they really part of your total experience?
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I don't think that they are. So I think, again, kind of combined, I think, honestly, I think these stores, because they have the ability to change, like, if you order online, whether you put a tip or whatever else it is. I'll be honest, I think some of these restaurants are doing a disservice to their employees because people are just getting bombarded with the requests for tips, whether it was deserved or not, and you almost feel like you need to. And so I think combined, I do think, I think you will see a drop, but I don't think it's solely attributed to the no tax on tips and no tax on overtime sort of thing.
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It's also tip fatigue.
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It's fatigue. There you go. So I think it'll be a combination. I do think it's a good thing. Well, less taxes in general is always a good thing, although I think it may have a little bit of a dip for these folks at times.
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I'll be interested to see what happens. I really don't know what's coming. But let's talk sports because I got a few questions for you. And let's lead in with Shadur Sanders. And Richard, I know everybody sees he plummeted all the way to the fifth round. And now suddenly everybody's talking, saying he's got a rag arm. He's not mobile enough. He's just going to get sacked, sacked, sacked every time he turns around. This guy's actually lousy. He's worthless. Is that true? Because, you know, I understand he had the biggest fall from his projection of any quarterback I've seen. But let me give you somebody who came close. Malik Willis. Remember, Malik Willis was supposed to go in the first round. He went in, I don't know, third, fourth round, maybe he dropped to the third or fourth round. So up until now, he dropped the furthest. And everybody was saying, oh, he just has no instincts, can't read the field. He's no good. This last year, he was the backup to Jordan Love in Green Bay. He outplayed Jordan Love, flat out. He started twice and came into other games, looked great, and now we've got him one more year, and there are teams, I guarantee you, lining up to give this guy the bag and take him from us after this year. We already know we have absolutely no chance to extend and keep Malik Willis. Malik Willis should have been at least a second-round pick. At least. Okay, he's the real deal. Is he worth a high first? No. But, I mean, did he belong in the third or fourth? No. I look now at Shadur. Is he really a fifth-round pick? I don't think so. What do you think?
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I agree. Some of his concerns, Andy, are the same concerns that you and I kind of mentioned before the draft, right, which is I don't know if he's got – the mobility was a concern, but it was more of the taking of the sacks, right? And he does do that because he tries to extend plays, and you can argue what it was for, Andy, right? You could argue that it was for maybe taking, not wanting to have a sack on your, not record, but yeah, on the stat sheet, right? Or maybe not have one, or sorry, I should say, not wanting to have an incompletion on the stat sheet, right? He wanted that completion percentage up.
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But he had a lousy line. Yeah.
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Absolutely, he did have a lousy line. Some of the sacks were attributed to him. There's no question about it. Andy, the biggest thing with him, and honestly, I would be excited if I was him and if I was Cleveland. Because to me, Andy, they have nothing to lose. You know Deshaun Watson isn't the future. You know Joe Flacco's not the future. You know that... I think they got Kenny Pickett as well. You know he's not the future. And so between Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders, you should put both of them out there. I actually think Shador is a better long-term fit, to be honest with you, Andy, because I think that he provides a lot more value. Or I should say this. Well, value because I think he has the upside. Because to me, Shador, if he comes in and plays well, Andy, and really shows that he should have been a first or at the very least a second-round pick, To me, Andy, you got an absolute steal because you got a guy on a very cheap four-year contract that you can now go and invest in the rest of your team over the next few years and maybe get back to respectability. And I think some of his habits can be taught out of him. I actually think Kevin Stefanski is a great coach to do it because he is in that Shanahan mindset. you know, that mold, right? You know, the Shanahan, Sean McVay mold of sort of quick decisions. I do think that that is something that Shador can do. I just, I don't see the rag arm, Andy. I think, is it the strongest arm you'll see? No, it's absolutely not. But I also think that his accuracy more than makes up for it. And the question is, is can you get some of those bad habits? The, I don't want to take an incompletion habit out of his sort of his repertoire and And if you can do that, I really think that they've got a field and something that they can work with.
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Personally, I think the kid has the it factor. I really do. I think he's very accurate. I think he is an average arm. Not great, but not terrible. He's fine. He can make the throws. I think his mobility, he's not Tom Brady. Geez, he's not that slow. I mean, come on. This guy can play football. I was really surprised, and I guess we'll just have to see. I agree with you. I think he was much better than a fifth, and if nothing else, he was a steal at that pick. Okay, let's look at the Broncos. They are looking different. They got a steal in the first round with their cornerback. He should not have been there. He should have gone in the high teens. Okay, I mean low teens. You know what I mean? Yep. What will look different for the Broncos this year? What's exciting? Some fans right now are listening. They want to know what's really exciting about this team. Because I think there's a lot. I mean...
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I was going to say, to me, Andy, it is the OTA start, which, as you know, you and I are football junkies. We follow along. And for folks that don't know, it's basically off-season practice, right? It's kind of like a – basically you get the guys together, you sort of install some plays, it gives the rookies time to work with some guys, and then there's the long summer break and then training camp. And so to me, Andy, it's how do the new weapons that Sean Payton got for Bo Nix and Evan Ingram – R.J. Harvey, even the new receiver, Bennett, that we got out of Illinois. How do those come together? And then, Andy, for me, how does Bo Knicks, because we got him weapons, how does he progress in year two? Because we saw with C.J. Stroud, Andy, last year a regression, and a lot of times you get a little bit of a regression from these rookie quarterbacks because teams have all offseason, right? They have a whole season. season with against NFL competition to see where they may struggle and I know you and I exactly Bo Nix is on tape now he is but I know you also think that he may succeed and may actually step up his game he will in year two and that that to me is probably the most exciting thing is okay You've likely found at least a quarterback for the next 10 years, hopefully next 15. I know that would take until he's about 40. But at least the next 10 years, you've hopefully found your guy. The question is, can he get incrementally better every year? Because I don't think he's Patrick Mahomes. He's not Josh Allen. But can he be one of these guys? Andy, can he be your Jalen Hurts? Can he be the guy that can come in, kind of guide your team in the areas that you need to be? You've got a stud defense. And so for me, it's how does Bo Nix develop into that franchise guy?
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Can I disagree a little? He reminds me more of Mahomes than Hurts. I think he's more of a pure passer who is a good athlete but not a great athlete because Hurts is a great athlete. I think he's more of a pure passer. I think he's got the vision. I think he's got the moxie. Yes, I'm bringing back the word moxie.
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I think he's kind of like Justin Herbert. I mean, he's a lot like Justin Herbert. Tall, big arm.
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Tanner, way in here. I mean, how do you see him? Because personally, I think he's going to progress just nicely. That doesn't mean he won't have struggles because they do have a year of tape. And let's face it, these defensive coordinators are pretty smart. But what do you think?
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A second year is always tough, like you and Richard mentioned. They have tape on you, but I think bringing in R.J. Harvey, who I saw something where he had the most rushes over 10 yards in college football, and that was above Jenty, surprisingly enough. You bring in another receiver in the third round, Pat Bryant, who's pretty good. Their defense isn't going to cause any problems for them unless it's a fluke game somehow. So basically all he has to do is score more points than the other team's offense, which shouldn't score more than 17 a game. I think he'll be fine, especially R.J. Harvey out of the backfield. They didn't have that with Javante Williams and the two other running backs. I can't remember their names, Este or something.
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I agree. Richard, do you remember in the movie Rocky when to train he had to chase the chicken around the yard? That's what it's like trying to chase Harvey.
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Maybe that's it. Andy, that's me every Saturday. I've got to chase the chickens around to get them back where they're supposed to be. But, yes, that should be how it is with R.J. Harvey. And I think, Andy, again, I don't want to put Darren Sproles or Alvin Kamara, but that's who he should be. He should be a guy that Sean Payton can move around, create the mismatch, and to go along with Evan Ingram. By the way, Andy, I don't think Evan Ingram is going to fix all of the Broncos' problems. The main reason is because I think he's, Well, he's not a blocker. He never has been. He's sort of an extended wide receiver, and he's kind of a slow wide receiver at that. But can he make contested catches? Can he go against linebackers and create the mismatches? And so if Bo Nix is Patrick Mahomes, like you said, This is fantastic. Then he is a home run. I just think, to me, can he beat Jalen Hurts, which is he doesn't force unneeded turnovers. He drives you down the field when he needs to, and he makes the right read and the correct throw when he needs to. And if he can do that, like Tanner said, with the defense that the Broncos have, it's kind of like Peyton Manning when he was here his last year. We just had a defense that was so good that as long as you didn't make the big mistake, they would be able to carry you along. And I think that there's some elements of that team to this team, albeit with some more offensive firepower.
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Richard, I don't want to beat up Jalen Hurts, but let me be honest. There are 20 NFL quarterbacks who win the Super Bowl on that team last year.
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You are not.
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Their talent was so overwhelming.
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Kenny Pickett was one of them. You are correct. Okay. Well, let's not get carried away now.
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Let's not get carried away. Yeah, you know, Tanner really drinks too much in the afternoons, and I shouldn't have let him on the air.
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I understand.
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Yeah. Well, okay, here's the thing. I am looking at Denver and I want you to just take one minute because we've got to go to break. We come back, talk a little NBA. But I look at Denver. What scares me the most is the defense. You just got a corner in the first round. You should not have gotten in the first round. I think you guys bribed somebody at the NFL. You know, I have no idea what kind of bribery. Did you bribe the Bidens? I mean, I'm not sure what you pulled off here, but your secondary is going to be sick. Talk about your defense. Spend a minute.
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Yeah, Andy, I think they are. I mean, I actually saw kind of a video where someone was like, who's the best secondary in the NFL? And the Broncos were right up there, and they absolutely are. Oh, yeah. You've got Riley Moss, shout out to the white corner. Obviously, Patrick Sertan on the other side. And in the slot, you've got John A. Barron. And, Andy, there's so much that everyone made of Sean Payton wanting a joker, right, wanting this tight end. that you can move all over the offense like Taysom Hill. Well, they basically got that same player, Andy, just for the defense. Right. Because that's who Jadé Barron is. He can play safety for you. He can play outside corner. He can play your nickel if you want to. Now, I will say this. He is going to have some growing pain. Most rookie cornerbacks do. It's one of the hardest positions. to play in the NFL, Andy, right, a cornerback, because you're going against these top wide receivers. But I think he will be helped by not having to go against the other team's best wide receiver, right? That's going to be, in theory, Patrick Sertan on a week-in, week-out basis. Outside of that, Andy, we've got really deep pass rushers. Our defensive line got better. Linebacker is one area where we could struggle, although we did, as long as Dre Greenlaw, the linebacker we got, from the 49ers. If he stays healthy, which I know he's got kind of an injury that flared up, but if he can stay healthy along with the safety we just got from the 49ers, we really have a lot. And Alex Singleton is coming back. We've got a lot of great pieces, Andy, that I feel like set us up for success. and we now have the ability where if we do have an injury, at least in a few spots, we can make up for it, and that's kind of what happened last year. Unfortunately, Sertan was banged up at the end of the year, Riley Moss with it, and so at corner we ended up kind of having to go to our third and fourth deep, and I think that's what ended up costing us. So as long as we can stay relatively healthy, Andy, I'm really excited about their potential.
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Yeah, but Richard, you were not targeting a corner coming into this draft. There's no way. He just wasn't supposed to be there. You were going to take the running back who went on the next pick to the Chargers. Okay, by the way, Tanner, congratulations. You're going to love Omarion Hampton. He's a wrecking ball. Okay, but Jadé Barron should have been gone in the teens. Okay, we all know it. And Richard, I think your GM was sitting there saying he was there ready with his Omarion Hampton card. Okay, and he had no idea Jaday was going to be there, and I think that's what happened. You had a beautiful hamburger in front of you. You were going to order it, and somebody gave you a T-bone.
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Well, hey, I'll take a T-bone for the price of a hamburger, Andy.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 online. We've got Richard Rush. Richard, really quick here before we get to the nuggets. Giannis Adedokunbo, I'm going to just give you my opinion really quick. He must leave Milwaukee. And I don't say that because I want him out. I love the guy. Great guy, but he deserves better. He's got to go to a team where he can compete. He is a one-man team. Every time he walks on the floor, three guys form a row and keep him from driving. Okay? I mean, he's so great, so good. But whose fault is that, Andy? And he's great at both ends of the court. And, well, our GM. We made some stupid trades, man.
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For him, though. They did it for him. When you bring in Damian Lillard, and I don't disagree with you that I think Giannis could do better as far as the team goes, but part of him leaving... is is a result of decisions that he wanted them to make right you know he wanted a better team he wanted a more complete team and so they they got rid of chris middleton and they got rid of some of these guys and it just goes to show you players in as much as i like yana sandy players just like lebron james are terrible gf
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Well, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute. But he wasn't crafting the deals. He was saying, you know, build a good team around me. He wasn't saying how he the GM and I know this is a Bucks fan. The GM doesn't consult Giannis on any of the moves. He actually makes the moves. And that's there are teams where the GM actually consults a star player. They didn't do that in Milwaukee. Our GM just sucks, okay? And he made ridiculous moves, and he gave away... We don't have a first-round pick that we control for five years. We have nothing that we can use to build a team around him. The team is gone. Milwaukee is completely finished now for several years. And the only way we can even start a rebuild is to trade him and get the bank for him. But more importantly... Look, he is a great defensive player. I mean, if he focused more on defense because he wasn't saving his energy because we have nobody who can score, he would be maybe the best defensive player in the league, certainly top two or three. He's that good everywhere he is on the court, okay? And yet, he's on a team where they can't do it. And look, I'm going to tell you right now, he's going to go to the West. Do you think it's going to shake up the West?
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Andy, the West is just a stinking juggernaut as is. I mean, out east, which, again, I know they're going to. Really, the only spot for him to potentially go, maybe the Clippers, but I doubt they're. maybe the Lakers, but it's all going to be about the package and can a team absorb it, especially with all the new apron rules.
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What about the Texas teams? Not Dallas. What about San Antonio and Houston?
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I could see San Antonio because they do have that second pick, Andy, plus they have some players. To me, though, that would be weird because to me, San Antonio, I know you said Houston, but to me, San Antonio would be weird because Wemby and Giannis seem like the same player to me. Very, you know, very rangy, lengthy European, you know, player. And granted, I know they're a little bit different. And Wemby's not as physical as Giannis is. And that would just be odd. But they have the most to offer. I mean, you know, how many chances are you going to have to get the second pick in the draft plus probably other first round picks?
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It would be the best Twin Towers we have seen probably in our lifetime. But you know what? I hate to move you on, but you only got a minute left. And I want you to say you are now the Nuggets GM. What do you do this offseason?
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Oh, Andy, I love it. I would trade – I would almost burn it down, Andy. I think there's three untouchables on this roster. Yeah, I think there's three untouchables. Jokic, Brown, and Aaron Gordon. And depending on who you even get for Aaron Gordon, I may trade him too. I would get rid of Murray. I would get rid of Michael Porter Jr., but it obviously all kind of depends on value. There's actually this really good article out. I just think, Andy, honestly, I'm even down to trade Murray for a Trey Young out of Atlanta.
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Murray scores a lot, and so does everybody he guards. Yeah, you are.
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You are correct. And so does Trey Young. Right. But I just think Trey Young maybe. I don't know. Yes. To me, Andy, you can't waste another year of Jokic's prime by trying to do the same same thing over and over again. And as painful as that is, I know people are going to say, well, you know, they just showed up at the playoffs. Well, it's now two playoffs in a row where people didn't show up. So, yes, Andy, to me, if I'm the GM, I burn it mostly down. Let's build it right back up and you're on to the next.
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Denver Nuggets, Richard Rush has just auditioned to be your GM, and I actually agree. I think you would fix it. What do you think, Tanner?
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I agree. Michael Porter has to leave.
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Good job, Richard. We'll see you next time. Take care. Okay, that is the end of hour number one. Boy, that was fast, wasn't it?
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Hey, in hour number two, we are going to be talking about, wow, Trump, the military, and lots more. So keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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Join Andy Peth as he fills in for John Rush on this riveting segment that examines the educational dynamics and political maneuvers affecting America. Discover the potential impact of reallocating educational funds from prestigious universities to trade schools and what it means for future generations seeking employment in growing industries. This episode engages with topics like anti-Semitism in academia, the viability of journalism degrees, and more, offering a fresh perspective on education reform.
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Actually, it's Andy Pate. Party of choice. And welcome to our number two here on Rush to Reason. I am Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush, who is back tomorrow. Your long wait has ended. And joining me right now is Tanner Cole.
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Man.
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And speaking of another real man, Donald Trump.
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The man.
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Donald J. Trump. Donald J. Trump is considering doing something, and I want to get your opinion on it, okay? He is considering taking the billions in grant money from Harvard and giving it somewhere else. Okay, and I'm going to read this to you. President Trump on Monday suggested taking grant money from Harvard and giving it to trade schools instead. Let me quote him. I'm considering taking $3 billion of grant money away from a very anti-Semitic Harvard and giving it to trade schools all across our land, the president wrote on Truth Social. What a great investment that would be for the USA and so badly needed. Tanner, what do you think?
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I agree. You've seen these elite schools, not just the Ivy Leagues. It's pretty much almost every college that doesn't seem to be in the South or Christian-based that is completely anti-Semitic, pumping in gender ideology. I mean, I even went through it from like 2018 to 2021. It was already in the colleges. So I think giving the money to kids that are actually going out and getting real jobs is which are trade school jobs instead of I'm majoring in communications, I'm going to be a barista. And you spend $200,000 for that. I think it's a great idea. I mean, I have a cousin that went to trade school. I think learning something like that and you can learn different trades along the way, you always have opportunity. Whereas me that graduated journalism and then obviously got communications because it's so easy to add on, journalism is dying. It's all going to YouTube or podcasts. Actual written journalism is not there anymore. Newspapers, even television has fallen off entirely compared to YouTube. A lot of people get their news from YouTube comedians, podcasters now.
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You know, in a way, though, that's good because that's actually broadened the scope. People with communications degrees can also go on YouTube and do very well. I mean, if you got the talent, OK, if you got the skills, you can make it work. But let me ask you this. What if we reworked schools and colleges in general? Let's take a look at what Trump's doing, because Trump and this is something Donald Trump really does, folks. He will anger a segment of the population. Right. And he'll say, I'm going to take something from you and he'll get everybody angry. And then he'll say, and I'm going to give it to homeless veterans.
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It's kind of like the tips we were talking about earlier.
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Well, it's kind of like the tips. But let's go back just a step further when he was going to take a lot of money away that was being given to illegals.
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Right. Which makes sense.
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Right. Money that was being given to illegals. And what does he say? He wants to give it to homeless veterans. And help us house homeless veterans. Well, what are people going to say to that? You've got one group that served our country and another group that invaded our country. And he's going to take the money from the one and give it. You know, this guy is brilliant. And so now what he says is Harvard. And how many people really like Harvard people?
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, you know, and so a couple, you know, and by the way, there are probably I'm sure there are some very wonderful Harvard people. I'm just saying that the general aura of it. Right. People generally don't like it. And so he's going to say, I'm going to take that money away from you and I'm going to give it to trade schools. Now, three billion isn't going to be a lot. Probably target, you know, just a handful of them. But. Take a step back here. What if we reworked colleges and schools in general? Maybe he's really on to something that the whole country needs to take another look at. Again, this is kind of a micro way of looking at things. Less gender studies, more shop class. OK, less culture, more how to change your oil and also master computer skills. Do things that matter in your day to day life and also things that you can master where there's always going to be a market for it. Right. I don't care what kind of car they keep making. And by the way, there's going to be a lot more oil and gas cars, folks. Just so you know, the real world is coming back, baby. But. You know, even with electric cars, you need someone to fix them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's never going to end. What about having young people actually train in things that get them a job, not get them a happy feeling go?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I mean, just everyday things are more valuable than some ideology they're pushing or even a piece of paper that says Harvard versus, you know, Michigan Technical School or whatever it may be. I mean... Back to Harvard. They already have a $53 billion endowment. I think $3 billion from the government, they'll be okay not getting.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
They have money getting pumped in from institutions, millionaires, billionaires, all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
There's a lot of stupid people giving money to them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, but take a step back. I keep saying that. But the reason I'm saying take a step back, folks, is because I think Trump is telling the whole country to, you know, you've run away from the trades. Now take a step back. Look at this. Who has a better chance of getting a really good job? OK, somebody who gets that four year degree out of a normal state college or whatever. Right. Or somebody who gets a vote tech degree or somebody who gets a trade school degree. And then let's say a year internship working as a plumber. Okay, working as an electrician, working on cars, working on whatever, welding. Okay, who is going to be always in demand no matter what?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, the trade people, 100%. Right. Because you can fill your entire schedule three weeks out just because people are going to need, you know, an oil change. Oh, I ran out of gas. I got into an accident. I need you to repair this. Oh, our electricity is out. Or the VCR isn't connecting to the TV, whatever it may be. There's always someone going to be calling, whereas going and getting a degree and then the degree to – I know multiple people that have gotten degrees and they're – unemployed, working at a 7-Eleven, doing deliveries, DoorDash, or maybe UPS or something. So those degrees are basically pointless, and you could have gone to school for something that actually mattered and while working in that craft while in school instead of doing a 10-hour internship in the summer at some lab or in a newsroom where you're not actually going to end up learning much because it's not as much hands-on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, or you could be like me. I have a ministry degree. I'm not in the ministry. No, I was in management. I'm retired now. But there were good uses of it that I was able to make use of it. Good ways I was able to make use of it. However, it was not obviously directly applicable. Getting a ministry degree does not prepare you to manage a casino or a movie theater. But that's where my life went. That's where my life took me. I love it. I'm good. But I'm looking at the kids today, and it's almost like they expect school to be an experience, not a training ground for what comes next. Because what comes next is life. What comes next is bills. What comes next is you and somebody else and a child or two or three, right? That's what comes next. And I'm sorry, but ancient Greek literature isn't going to pay for that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, and, you know, some activist class and how to how to assess your gender isn't going to pay for that. Why do we have any of that in the schools? Look at public schools. Forget colleges for a second, Tanner. And I was asking this the other day. I'm going to ask it again. Why do we have any sex education in schools at all? Do you know any teenagers in schools right now who are lame enough that they actually say this? I need the government to teach me about sex. Who would admit that?
SPEAKER 18 :
I can't think of any.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, none.
SPEAKER 18 :
Kids, but not teenagers, no.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, little kids don't need to know a lot.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we're exposed with it so much through media, whether it's film, TV shows, novels. I mean, even just going on Instagram, you're seeing Instagram models all the time. So you kind of already have a good idea as a kid. what sex is, let alone having to go to a class for it. I mean, we had sex ed, but it was very much, these are drugs, alcohol, bad substances, and this is like protective sex. And I was only like two months, and then you're done.
SPEAKER 06 :
And why did you even need that? I mean, seriously, do you need the government to teach you how to protect yourself? I mean, seriously.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, especially in a public school, I wouldn't allow that for my kids.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 18 :
In a private school, maybe it's a little different because they're just trying to protect you, but.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I mean, maybe schools saying, hey, just so you know, this is the stuff that is available. There you go. Okay. You know, because they're looking at a landscape of young people who can be very reckless in their private lives. And teachers care about young people, too. They're looking at them and saying, hey, just so you know, you might want to protect yourself a little, whatever. I mean, you make whatever decisions that you and your beliefs and your families believe. You know, you guide you. I'm not here to guide you. I'm just saying, if you're going to make decisions that are going to affect the rest of your life, protect yourself in some ways. And I think that's okay for schools to say that much. But that's it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. We don't even need to teach it now with how the Internet is. You can go on YouTube and watch an animated thing and it'll tell you in 10 minutes protective versus nonprotective sex or what drugs are or alcohol and what it does to you. And then you're done. You don't need a three month course. I remember they had us try.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had to do three months courses. If you want, if teachers want to be activists.
SPEAKER 18 :
Agreed. I mean, we had to know every part of the penis and vagina. And I'm like, somehow everyone in the class passed that. I don't think that's true. I think they just wanted to give everyone an A. It's like, why am I learning about this? I'll never need to know what the van nephrin or whatever it's called ever again.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, you won't.
SPEAKER 18 :
I won't either, unless I'm going into a science degree.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, yeah, if you're going to be a doctor or whatever and operate on these things. Look, I think Trump is on to something. I think he really is. Because taking that $3 billion from a school that most people look at as pretty hoity-toity and haughty and annoying.
SPEAKER 18 :
Very elitist.
SPEAKER 06 :
And very elitist and also packed with anti-Semitism and raging haters of America and Israel. Why are we paying for that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Even their own professor, they weren't allowing back on campus because he was Jewish.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
What are we talking about?
SPEAKER 06 :
You're out of your minds. And so we can actually give tax money instead of giving it to there so that a bunch of people can go around and say, from the river to the sea, let's eliminate Israel and nonsense like that. Whatever. If you want to hold that belief, I think you're sick, but that's your right to hold that belief. But why am I paying for it? OK, why am I paying for the setting where you can go out and shout things like that when I can take that three billion dollars through President Trump and we can give it to schools that teach kids how to get a real job? Agreed. I think it's fantastic. Way to go, President Trump. We applaud you once again. Let's take a break. We've got lots more to come. Paul Leuenberger. Paul represents nine great companies, so he can match your insurance needs with the best coverage. Call Paul at 303-662-0789.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush. And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. One more day. He is back tomorrow. And joining me again is Mr. Tanner Cole. Man. Because he is all man. All right. Speaking of being all man, I can see you out on the prairie on a horse. I can see you doing that. Is that the kind of guy you are?
SPEAKER 18 :
If I could get access to a horse and own it, yes. And someone else takes care of all the financial troubles a horse might bring, which is steep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, it is steep. But I'm just saying you wouldn't mind that life.
SPEAKER 18 :
We used to go up to Sylvan Dill Ranch up in Loveland, the family, and ride horses up there, fish. Beautiful place. It was amazing. I loved it growing up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, well, I want to talk about somebody. Folks, you probably have not heard of this person and get to know this person. His name is Sean Pond. Sean Pond. And he is from Montrose. Montrose County Commissioner, District 3. Now, he writes a very long article here in the Rocky Mountain Voice, and I don't have time to get to it all, but he's talking about how the Colorado State Government which is, of course, very left wing. And there's a real problem, you know, up in Canada, they're dealing with this right now in Alberta and Saskatchewan, right? How the liberal elites on the coasts are running the interior and basically controlling everybody who does the real work and actually produces income, you know, with oil, gas and so forth. And he is dealing with this out in Montrose, and he's very upset with how the, let's just say, under the dome there in Denver, how they are running everywhere else in the state. And I'm just going to skip down here and listen to this. They call it rewire. OK, OK, here we go. And now they're pushing harder than ever. He's talking about the infiltration, how they infiltrate, you know, on lower levels, even in these rural areas, but how they also control from the state level. Listen to this, folks. Please listen closely. They want cattle off the land. They want roads closed. They want grazing rights gone. They want hunting phased out. They want firearms irrelevant. They want wolves roaming, wilderness locked up, and western Colorado turned into a buffer zone for urban control centers. They call it rewilding. I call it erasing. They want to erase us. Whether by design or consequence, their vision eliminates the rural way of life. They push centralized control through regulation, land designations, and green energy policies that hurt the very communities they claim to help. You are not imagining this. Rural Coloradoans are being pushed aside. Colorado is shutting down all coal-fired power plants and mines by 2030. They're replacing reliable energy with unstable alternatives that scar our land and provide little benefit to local economies. They're killing jobs, gutting communities, and taxing working families into the ground. We should be expanding coal, opening more mines, extracting critical minerals, powering our grid, driving down costs, putting America and Colorado first. Instead, we're being driven into into into dependence and debt by green fantasies and government overreach. And it's all enabled by those who believe standing in the middle is the right place to be. As regulations and restrictions grow, liberty dies. It is the duty of every Coloradoan right now to protect our state from the government that's trying to take it from us. And he keeps going. OK, but what do you think of that? Is that brilliantly written? I've never heard of this guy.
SPEAKER 18 :
It made me want to, you know, pick up an AR and go fight.
SPEAKER 06 :
My gosh. Sean Pond.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, what's so unfortunate, I mean, even just with the Harvard stuff we talked about earlier, these people are so discombobulated in confusion that they think more government is better and that the government, at least the left side of the government, can't do no wrong when this was the American dream 10 years ago. And now it's just become full control. I mean, you saw it with COVID. They want full control over everyone. They want you to stay inside. They want everything to be green when in reality that would be a major switch and kill a bunch of companies and a lot of families would suffer.
SPEAKER 06 :
It would ruin the entire country.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I mean, the people that don't live in the heart of the city, I even do, and it's a struggle to live there. And it's almost impossible to live there just with how much crime and homelessness going on. But I mean, the American dream was small government, but a strong government. And then we, the people, have the right and the responsibility to vote on what should be done for the benefit of each person or the collective majority, at least for your state. And it seems like the liberals, especially in this state, don't seem to care and want basically Denver to freeze over into this totalitarian nightmare.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, it seems to me that... You know, what they've done is that the left really understands this. They understand that land is freedom. It's like a car is freedom, right? You can do what you want with it, in it, whatever, you know, drive around. Land is freedom. If you don't have it, you don't have freedom. OK, and they're confiscating more and more and more of it or telling you what you can do on it. OK, and they're taking away our abilities to do basically everything that we need to do. This guy is saying very simply, we have to draw a line in the sand and we have to draw it right now or we are finished.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I mean, just a quick point on that. We've been letting China buy up farmland in our country, and I'm sure some of it's been taken away from small-time farmers or people with some plots of land, but they're getting such a good deal that they're getting pushed out, and then Bill Gates has been doing the same thing. Who knows if he's got a hand in it with China, but... Like you said, if your basic freedoms you feel like they're getting tampered with, there's a problem because you shouldn't feel that way in this country.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look what happened with the left when they took over California. Now, off the coast of California, there is more oil. then you can shake a stick at. There is so much oil off that coastline, you know, and my wife actually worked with the company that worked out there, okay, that worked in California oil. And they said that there was so much oil just seeping out of the base and they're off the coastline that it's actually an ecological problem, a real problem. It would be better if they drilled it. OK, so they wouldn't have all that seepage. But they still they shut it all down. California could have incredible oil production. By the way, they would have incredible budgets as a result. But they shut it down. They affect the rest of the country with that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Do you think of California?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's not just the California coast. That's the American coastline, and they're taking it away. Well, right here in Colorado, what is the government doing? That is all of Coloradoans, you know, Colorado, okay? And what are they doing? They're shutting down coal development and coal plants and mineral mining. which are the very things we need to expand. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 18 :
I was going to ask you, do you think if California actually started drilling there, they could maybe start fixing some of their problems with how much revenue they could generate?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I think they could fix all their problems with the revenue they would be generating.
SPEAKER 18 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 06 :
They would. And this guy, here's another great line. He says, the Constitution is not a suggestion. It's not a starting point for discussion. It's a line in the sand. What do you think? I like it. Folks, this guy... I mean, we're talking about here in Colorado we need Republicans to stand up. Well, here is one. And he says, will you join me? Really quick here. Montrose County can lead the way. Will you join me? So, folks, get your pens ready. I'm going to give you how to contact this guy. I wasn't even expecting to do this. Okay? I'd never heard of him. He says, if you believe it's time to defend our freedom and take Colorado back, I'd be honored to hear from you. Sean Pond, Montrose County Commissioner, District 3, e-mail. S Pond, P-O-N-D. So S P-O-N-D at Montrose County dot net. Contact this guy. His phone number. He puts it down. 970-650-0981. 970-650-0981. If you want somebody, folks, here in Colorado who's going to put a line in the sand and tell all these urban elites, will you please stop wrecking the rural areas? You don't care about them. Look, you simply outnumber them because people moved in from California and outnumber them now. But these people own their land and they know what to do with it. And Colorado was a great state before you ruined it. They know the energy we need. They know the energy grid we need. You don't. You don't know any of it. All you know is your activism. You people on the left. Outside of a few, you people don't create anything. All you do is move around other people's money and move around what other people create or teach in schools about how to do these things. You don't do anything.
SPEAKER 18 :
Or you steal other people's money.
SPEAKER 06 :
Or you steal it, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
Or funnel it through a back room, it seems.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, or funnel it through some organization like the Bidens did. Right. This guy represents an area of the state. By the way, Montrose is gorgeous, just so you know. He represents an area of the state where these people know about doing. Ranching.
SPEAKER 18 :
Farming.
SPEAKER 06 :
Farming. Mining. Creating. Doing. Building. Living. Everything that you want to regulate into the dust, they have been doing for a long time, and they do it better than you.
SPEAKER 18 :
By far.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sean Pond, I just saluted Donald Trump. I'm going to salute you. Sean Pond, I don't even know who you are, but I salute you. What do you think, Tanner?
SPEAKER 18 :
Love it.
SPEAKER 06 :
What a guy.
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm glad someone's saying something.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. Man. And on the line right now, we got John from Cheyenne. John, what's up, sir?
SPEAKER 09 :
Andy, I got to go back to what you said on the trades. Yeah. How many guys did you know in the Air Scouts that went on to a trade when they got out, whether it was aircraft mechanics or computer science or anything?
SPEAKER 06 :
Tons.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean... Oh, tons. I mean, I know a bunch of guys that got out and went into all the different trades, and they made a ton of money. And now, you know, so that's one thing that they're not encouraging like they used to when we were young, you know, when dinosaurs ruled the earth.
SPEAKER 06 :
I rode one to school. It was great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. encourage these kids to join the military for three years come out and use their gi bill and go to college now why did you call it the air scouts i was in the air force force it's got the word force in it yeah yeah i'll yeah okay you were not you were not in a mechanized infantry battalion were you no i was a wuss what are you kidding
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, as I always say, the Marines, you know, the few, the proud, the Marines, Air Force, we drop bombs and run. Okay, I've got it all figured out.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I just love to pick on you about the Air Force.
SPEAKER 06 :
But honestly, no, I knew a lot of people who came out of the Air Force and went right into great fields. And not just in those kind of fields, not just welding or whatever, but also people who go out into computer fields and do very well. Look, the military is wonderful, wonderful preparation for life. And you're also serving your country. I was proud to serve.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I was too, you know. So the other thing is your talk, that guy in Montrose, he sounds like he's got his head together, but everyone on the conservative side in Colorado fails to admit that you guys sent Jared Polish back to Denver with a 16-point margin.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no. No, no, no.
SPEAKER 1 :
19.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was only 16.
SPEAKER 06 :
You were too kind to us.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. So you are getting in Colorado, the people of Colorado are getting exactly what they asked for when they voted. They are. They are.
SPEAKER 06 :
But you know what? I do feel sorry for the rural areas. You know, I feel sorry for myself because I'm not in a rural area. It's awful here. But I feel sorry for the rural areas, John, because, you know, they didn't vote for this and they're controlled. It's just like I feel sorry for Alberta and Saskatchewan. Everywhere you look, John, and I'd like you to comment on this. Everywhere you look, every time people talk about secession, it's never the people on the left because they want to continue sucking off the right wingers. They want to suck the right-wingers dry and then move on to a new place, move on to a new, you know, they're parasites. They want to move on to a new host, host body.
SPEAKER 09 :
Remember, oh, yeah, I agree with you. They, you know, they leave where they're at because they want a better life because the taxes are too high. There's too much crime and everything. Yeah, they've ruined this place. And then they come to the new place. And say, well, I'm going to vote the way I have for the last 30 years, where it destroyed New York City now that I'm in Denver. Or it destroyed California, so let's go vote for Colorado and destroy that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, John, because they are locusts. OK, locusts feed on the ground. They feed on the bounty of what is there. They eat it up and then they move on as a swarm to another place. They don't create anything. Locusts don't build a dam like a beaver. OK, they don't do anything but eat and they don't do anything but take. And that's all these people do. And you can say, well, wait a minute. I know this Democrat who does a great job at this job. Yeah, I'm sure you do. I know some, too. But you know what? They are basically the good people who are the exception to the rule. Their party overruns every state they're in.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just look at any of the states that they're currently in control of and how many people are moving there and how many people are leaving there. Oh, yeah. I mean, and we don't have to take the big four. You could look at states like Minnesota.
SPEAKER 07 :
Illinois.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Illinois, I consider one of the big four that people are leaving. New York, California, Illinois, and Massachusetts. Those ones, everybody's leaving because they're nuts. I'm saying more like a Minnesota.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure. Or a New Jersey, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep, New Jersey. Now, when is it going to change is the question. I mean, Detroit had to go technically into bankruptcy before they started coming back. Is Colorado going to have to go into bankruptcy? Yeah. Or is it going to be a revolution? The property owners are just going to say, screw you, I ain't paying my taxes.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, it's going to last a lot longer in Colorado. Thanks for bringing this up. Let me break this down again. It only takes a minute. Colorado is a very unique situation, and here's why. We are propped up here in Colorado. Our economy is propped up by people moving in from even worse blue states like California and New York because Californians and New Yorkers and Illinoisans and these people from the truly messed up states where prices are through the roof and they've destroyed everything. The locusts. Okay, the locusts. The locust still wants to first go to a place where they're more comfortable, and that's not where you are in Wyoming. Yeah, I know they're moving there, but not nearly as many. They know they're not right. They first want to move to a tweener place. OK, a place that is not overrun yet and ruined yet. OK, but it's not too conservative. where they'll throw out a Liz Cheney, okay, like Wyoming. Okay, so here's what I mean. So here's how they prop up our economy because everything, all the prices in California are through the roof, right? They just made minimum wage like 38 bucks or something in L.A. It's crazy, okay? And so they'll have a normal house in California. They'll sell it for $1.5 million, $2 million, okay? They'll take that $2 million and just come right here to Colorado and live like a king. And they'll pour that money in right into our economy. And so millions of them moved in, and not just one year, but over year after year after year. We're talking a couple decades of people pouring in from these states that were overpriced, pouring in millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions of dollars, free money just raining from the sky on Colorado. That's why Colorado's economy couldn't go bust, because you always have more money falling here. However, it's slowing. It is slowing. Actually, the numbers leaving now is almost up with the numbers coming in. So I don't know how much longer it can last, John, but the reason it's lasted that long is what I just said.
SPEAKER 09 :
So right now, if I was – and I heard you had the new head of the party on – 3 o'clock hour, and I did hear a lot of that. If I'm the head of the Colorado party, I'm saying we're not going to win the governorship. We're not going to win the state offices. We need to take back some of the seats that we lost in the House and Senate, or whatever you call your state assembly, the state house. There's got to be
SPEAKER 06 :
five senators that are won by less than five points that you could challenge those seats you make a great point where there are a number of places where the margins were very low and the statewides you're right the statewides would get crushed but by looking at where the margins are low we gave trump the u.s house right but the other thing is get some of those state reps in 26 back in there
SPEAKER 09 :
to stop the craziness or at least be able to, because right now you can't, they have a super majority. They can do whatever they want.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you think, John, do you think we're ever going to see here in the Denver metro area, which, of course, has gone so deep blue, it's, you know, it's like a lake. Okay. Do you think we're ever going to see what we're starting to see in places like New York, where Trumpism is actually rising? New Jersey, where Trumpism is really rising? In places like that. Why doesn't that sell here in Colorado?
SPEAKER 09 :
Because it hasn't gotten bad enough yet. Ah, there you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
It hasn't gotten bad enough because of what I was talking about earlier, all the hundreds of millions being showered in here from people moving here from more expensive states, right? We're propped up.
SPEAKER 09 :
So if you look at it, you have to look like I was, you know, growing up and living in New York. New York City got so bad under Koch and then Dinkins that the only way to shave it was to elect Rudy Giuliani. And the people finally realized the biggest thing, I don't know if you remember, it was under Dinkins, and it probably cost him his election, was when he allowed the Crown Heights riots to happen. I don't know if you remember those. Heard of.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't remember.
SPEAKER 09 :
But I've heard of, yeah. The head of the Hasidic Jewish thing was in a convoy And there was a car accident and a young black child was run over and killed. And all of a sudden that was in Crown Heights and they let riots go on it. And a young man got killed. A Jewish guy just got killed for being Jewish, of course. But the mayor said, well, we've got to let him let it out. We've got to let him vent. Kind of like what happened in the George Floyd riots. Got to let him vent.
SPEAKER 06 :
People die when you vent.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. That's what happened. And the city was so disgusted that... Here's Giuliani, who went after the mob in New York when he was the U.S. attorney. He runs for office and wins, and he cleans up the city. And that's the only way Denver's going to get saved, is you have to have that tipping point to where the people of Denver say, all right, enough is enough. We've got to change something. That's the only way it could happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, this makes sense because... The only way you will get to move, you know, what was I calling Democrats before? Swarms of locusts. The only way you're going to get a locust to move away from its objective of just eating the field is great discomfort like a fire. Okay. And no, I'm not saying folks to set fire to things. I'm not calling for anything. Okay. I'm just talking about desperation. Only great discomfort will move a locust off its path. All it wants to do is feed and take, and it has to feel great discomfort. And in places that they have totally ruined, they felt great discomfort, and we saw a turnaround.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, look at some of the places in California that have had enough is enough and started electing conservatives, cities and towns that were liberal Democrat for a long time. Not the coastal places, but... you know, like an Orange County, like a San Diego, where it never got too bad, but it got bad enough to where they said enough is enough, and they started making a change. That's part of the problem is you have to let it get bad enough to make the change, and I don't know if you guys want to do that in Denver.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, no, we don't, obviously. But, you know, you make a great point because I'll tell you what, the National Democrats are terrified that they could lose two or three seats in California in 26 from the House because they're trying desperately to take the House back and stop Trump. Right. But it looks like because of the fires. Remember how the Democrats handled the fires in Colorado in California?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, they did a fabulous job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. Locusts do a great job at managing things. Well, they did a terrible job, obviously, mismanaging the water, mismanaging everything and wrecking everything with wokeness. Well, because of that, they could lose two. I think they will lose at least two seats in California in 2026. As a result, it's terrifying them. Maybe what we need is desperation. I just don't want to come to that point. John, thank you so much. Oh, no, no. Wait, wait. I got a question for you. I got a question for you. What branch were you in? I was in the Army.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I just want you to know we used to drop you from planes when we ran out of bombs.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I did that. I did that five times when I was young and really stupid to get my jump wings and swore after I finished the training I would never do it again.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm terrified of heights, dude. I couldn't do it, and here I was in the Air Force. I was a pencil pusher.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm not afraid of heights. No, I was in the Army. I fixed M1s and Bradleys. John, I couldn't be as tall as you.
SPEAKER 06 :
I couldn't be as tall as you, okay?
SPEAKER 09 :
I saw a picture of you. You're about six foot, aren't you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, just a hair under, about 5'11 1⁄2". And yet my 5'1 wife towers over me. I'm not sure how that works.
SPEAKER 09 :
I got your beat. I'm 6'4 and my wife is 5'2.
SPEAKER 06 :
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? I'm doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I don't prepare my clients' taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it's working.
SPEAKER 05 :
And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, with so many different taxes we're faced with, it becomes an important thing to take into consideration. It's not how much income you have, but how much you get to keep. In addition to federal and state income taxes, there's property taxes, state and local sales tax, and fees. And they all play a part in shrinking our income.
SPEAKER 05 :
What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won't they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts? Well, it depends.
SPEAKER 15 :
Everybody's situation's a little bit different. There's no one size that fits all when it comes to tax planning. But often when I work with people, we'll create a strategy where we will convert traditional IRAs to Roth over time. And that not only reduces taxes in the future, but it will also lower the tax they'll be paying on their Social Security.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that is excellent. And how can people reach you if they want to learn about their own taxation in retirement?
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Listen online, klzradio.com. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Online right now, we've got Bob and Thornton. Bob, quick question here. Were you in the military?
SPEAKER 10 :
I was. What branch?
SPEAKER 1 :
1967.
SPEAKER 06 :
What branch?
SPEAKER 10 :
Army.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, Bob, we in the Air Force used to pull you guys aside and say, tell me about the war.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, well, let's say you're walking down the street, and you're in the Army, and on the other side of the street was a bunch of Marines, so you went, oh, boy, those guys are tough.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So we better just, you know, scatter and get out of here. But if you're walking, if you were in the Army and you were walking down the street and there was a bunch of airmen across the street, you went, oh, God, come on, really?
SPEAKER 06 :
But we wore those cute little hats, you know, that fold at the top. It was great. You could do it with paper if you wanted if you ran out of hats. Anyway, go ahead, Bob. What do you got?
SPEAKER 10 :
So John from Wyoming, Cheyenne, and Joe from New Jersey. Yep. Between the two of those guys, if they got together, they could have their own radio show. They're great.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Joe's up next hour.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm from New York State, but 450 miles away from where John from Cheyenne was. He was a New Yorker. I was a Buffalonian. And let me tell you about my hometown. McKinley was assassinated there in 1901. But let's talk about the 20th century coming into Buffalo, New York. And that was at the east end of Lake Erie.
SPEAKER 06 :
You just got a minute here, sir, but go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
And the west end of Lake Erie was Detroit. In the early 20th century, Detroit and Buffalo were number five and six richest cities in the U.S.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
And my hometown in my lifetime, so I'm 75, so 1950 till now, has lost two-thirds of their population. When I was born, the population was 750,000. It is now 250,000. All of the industry is gone, all of it. The last place that closed up was a place my dad worked for 43 years, Dunlop Tire. and they closed it up about three months ago. It was owned by Sumitomo. And the governor there could have cared less. But she has plenty of money to plow into a new stadium for the Buffalo Bills that their owners are, their net worth is $6 billion.
SPEAKER 06 :
But who cares about a Dunlop factory that gives tons of great jobs?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, my dad worked there. They opened there in Buffalo in 1923, and my dad worked there his entire working life, 43 years, and raised five children and a house and a vacation and a new car every couple years. And 1,550 people were shown the door about three months ago, gone. See, Bob, this year... They could make tires from now until forever for another 125 years.
SPEAKER 06 :
Bob, what you're describing is what I was talking about. The urban areas are areas that the left has taken, eaten alive, destroyed, and then they move out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it's such a shame because these are beautiful places. Buffalo, beautiful city.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, except the weather.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, I'm from Wisconsin, so you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
But other than that, our biggest employer there was Bethlehem Steel at their peak. They employed 40,000 people. Now, that was during World War II. But gone. And now let me tell you about moving here 52 years ago. I came here. I bought a brand-new house. It was a modest house, but brand-new. It was better than what I had in Buffalo, two-car garage and, you know, nice house, 36,000 buttons. A house like that now would be $700,000. Right. And you know what they're building here now? Apartment after apartment after apartment. And these young folks that want, oh, I want that Colorado lifestyle, they're moving here, and they're moving into a 500- or 600-square-foot apartment, and they have to have two or three roommates to pay $2,000 a month. And, you know, when they get a few years older... That's going to be, they're going to go, what am I doing here doing this?
SPEAKER 06 :
And Bob, you've only got about 20 seconds here, but how is that a Colorado lifestyle? Being packed in like sardines to a little room. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
What I came here for.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I came here for wide open spaces, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Colorado. The mountains. I can't go to wide open spaces anymore because the traffic is so bad. And once you get there. You have to have a reservation to park your car and throw a blanket down to have a picnic.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you know why the traffic is so bad? Because the liberals who are in charge won't make more lanes. They give us bike lanes. I can't drive on those. I get in trouble.
SPEAKER 10 :
I can't go downtown anymore because the left-hand side is bikes only, and the right two lanes are buses only. Yes! One lane for car traffic. I'm an Uber driver, so I don't even go there anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
Bob, please, I wish you could be mayor. I just want you to know my entire life would change if you were the mayor of Denver. I got to let you go, sir. Thank you. Take care. Gosh, is he right?
SPEAKER 18 :
So right. I live down there. I witness it every day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Tanner Coleman, thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it. It was awesome. Folks, that is the end of hour number two. Coming up next in hour number three, we're going to have Jersey Joe. We're going to be talking politics. We're going to be talking humor. We're going to be having a lot of fun. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 03 :
Ordinary rich guy.
SPEAKER 1 :
Ordinary rich guy.
In 1971, Congress declared Memorial Day a national holiday to be celebrated on the last Monday in May, echoing the words and sentiments of the proclamation of General John A. Logan of the grand Army of the Republic in 1868 who stated:
“Memorial Day is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers, or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country during the late rebellion (the Civil War) and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village and hamlet, church yard in the land.”
So it is that the primary purpose of Memorial Day is to strew with flowers literally and figuratively the graves and memories of America’s daring defenders. They the fallen died for freedom, liberty, for America, for us, for YOU AND ME. We were asked to remember those who died in the great American Civil War, but the day to remember now incorporates all who have given lives in defense of our country. Far too many wars, my fellow Americans, and far too many fallen defenders by the millions who believed in America, and in its fundamental principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all mankind. How grateful we should be.
We are descendants or contemporaries of patriots, men and women who cherish freedom and were willing to fight and die to defend it if necessary. These warriors lived by the words of Patrick Henry who said:
GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH.
Our nation was formed in the fight for freedom for there was no life worthwhile without it. There came our great Constitution and our incredible BILL OF RIGHTS, the rights and freedom amendments which are the finest in the history of mankind. But no matter the origin, it seems as though in so many ways the passion for freedom may have been lost today as they once had it. We seem to take for granted what they died for. And the courage they the fallen had seems lost today in so many ways and the change in our country, produces in so many ways an America in decline, at least politically, philosophically and certainly passionately. Our ancestors fought for the Constitution, for the Bill of Rights and the freedoms those now 27 Amendments allow us. They were ready to die for them, but we the current people allow them to be watered down, interpreted away and often ignored without the fight or conviction to protect and defend them. Perhaps the freedoms of Patrick Henry are giving way to a slow but sure death. Perhaps we have failed to meet the challenge of Ben Franklin who told us that the Republic they created for us was a marvelous way of government IF we could keep it. I wonder if we can.
So, in the midst of barbeques and baseball, it is so healthy to look back and
remember. Remember a George Washington, a general, a leader, a President, a
warrior, a patriot. Or a Paul Revere who rode the land warning that the enemy was
coming, sounding the alarm. It seems as though we need more Paul Reveres, warning
us that enemies to our Constitution and way of life are coming, and in fact are HERE.
We the people should be ever mindful of the threats and sound the alarm as he did,
like those who energized our country once before, THE BOSTON TEA PARTY
PATRIOTS and the revolution their courageous acts energized and inspired. They took
a stand against taxes and so must we. Ours continue to rise, and rise to the point of
confiscation and nothing but nothing destroys freedom like taxes. President John
Adams reminded us that the two killers of liberty are slavery and debt. The debt of
confiscatory taxation strangles freedom and that is happening at an incredibly rapid
pace today. Shame on us.
It is hard for us to think back and remember the early days in America when slavery,
slavery was a way of life in America to our great shame and embarrassment. We the
moderns find that inconceivable, and the practice of slavery of any kind abhorrent, do
we not? Right-thinking men and women fought and fell to rid America of the scourge
of slavery, God bless them.
And to rid the world of despots like Hitler, evil to the core, Mussolini and those who in
war would destroy the freedom and liberty of all. God bless them.
There can hardly be a family anywhere in America which has not laid a son or
daughter on the altar of freedom. So many fought and fell, lives given willingly for us
in war after war. And there were those who supported those who fought. We honor
them. Many of our warriors and defenders came home hurt and damaged in body or
mind perhaps for a lifetime. On Memorial Day, we honor these veterans of wars, these
HEROES, these wounded warriors who gave us our freedom:
WE OWE THEM!
A debt we can never repay. To honor them is the least we can do, to thank them as we
remember and as we encounter those in our military who follow after them. We
should help and support them. They lived and died for what they believed. Whenever
I encounter a member of our military, I thank them for what they did and what they do
for our great country, for me, and for you, and for my friends and loved ones and all
Americans whether I know them or not. But I really do know them for I know what is
in their hearts and minds and I know they love America as much as I do. I will salute
them as a sign of respect. I wish them to know that I will always be grateful for
everything they do for me and the America I love. Perhaps YOU should do the same,
not on one Memorial Day, but all days. They the heroes and defenders are the very
best of us.
God bless them.
Memorial Day is always celebrated at Arlington National Cemetery, a very special
place, a burial site for some of America’s bravest. At 3 PM on that Monday, a very
special ceremony occurs and each grave is decorated with a small American flag. The
highlight of the celebration is a speech in honor of these brave men and women from
the President or Vice President of the United States honoring their contributions to
America and laying a wreath at the tomb of The Unknown Soldier. That tomb
represents tens of thousands of other unknown soldiers who gave their lives in service
to our country, but in death never got the recognition and respect they so justly
deserved. Do remember them, my fellow Americans, do remember them as well on
Memorial Day as there may be no one else, no loved one, no friend or family to do so.
And as you do remember these American heroes, thank our God, the God who blesses
America for all those who gave so much for us. They allowed us to be parents, to have
and enjoy family, they allowed us to be workers and fully participate in the great
opportunities America offers. THEY allowed us to be all that we can be because our
soldiers, they were determined to be all they could be. Have a special place in your
heart all week for any loved one, family or friend of yours who should be
MEMORIALIZED AND REMEMBERED this day and always.
And, as we pay tribute and remember, let us become better citizens of this great
country, ready more than ever to preserve, protect and defend all it stands for, all of
our blessed and precious freedoms which exist like there are nowhere else in the
world. Let us stand for what is right with actions, protests, town meetings, marches,
debate, fact and truth at work, counteracting government spin and disinformation.
Let us stand tall for the right, for truth, for all things moral and valuable. Let us
resolve, we the people, we who own and control this country to do our job as citizens
far better. And remember to cherish and exercise the greatest privilege which every
American has. That is:
THE VOTE
There is no more powerful weapon than the vote of the American citizen. It is the most
precious Constitutional right we have and for which our forefathers fought and died.
Let us make certain that we vote for those to represent us who so passionately believe
in these very special freedoms as we do, and they the fallen did. It is only then, when
we do our part, day in and day out, that we would have the right to say with conviction
and passion as our forefathers did:
GOD BLESS AMERICA
For that can not happen unless we the people do what is right, remembering whom
and what went before and committing with conviction to follow in their footsteps.
These men and women died for GOD AND COUNTRY and for you and me in the neverending
fight to protect and preserve:
FREEDOM
Memorialize their memories Memorial Day and every day!
God bless America and God bless you.
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Well, well, well, a Florida USPS worker. This is probably why none of my packages ever get to my house and why it takes me. It literally takes a month to send a piece of mail from my house to St. Louis. I'm not even kidding you. That's how long it takes. A USPS worker was arrested this month in Melbourne, Florida, because she decided to stop off at a house party during her route and drink a bunch of vodka. And then later in the mail truck, apparently she was caught driving the wrong way in traffic. Dude. That's a probable cause affidavit via Click Orlando. Caitlin Dye, 33, was arrested on April 12th on a charge of DUI. They literally, Melbourne police, they called and said, yeah, there's a USPS truck driving the wrong way down the highway. And the driver is literally just throwing plastic cups out of the vehicle. So the officers responded and they saw the mail truck driving west on East University Boulevard. And then it made a U-turn to head the other way. And it was swerving in and out of its lane and then went back into the opposite lane. They pulled over the mail truck, and they said that Di appeared to be confused and disoriented. They did a field sobriety exercise, and of course she did not do well in those. They questioned her, and she said that she was delivering to a home, and she was invited inside for a party, and she took some vodka shots before she left, and then she got pulled over. So they asked her why she was swerving in and out of traffic, and she goes, oh, I was tired. I was taking a nap. And she said that she threw the cup out of the vehicle because she was swishing her mouth out with water so she wouldn't smell like alcohol. She was booked in a Brevard County jail. I mean, there you go right there. Boy, now we got another guy wrestling another gator every dang week in Florida. You can go wrestle a gator. So Jacksonville, Florida. Let's see. During Easter dinner, they had to call a gator trapper. A family did in Jacksonville because there was a giant gator in their yard. A woman was getting ready to take her dog out when she noticed a seven-foot alligator right by the slide door of her patio. And she said she was just finishing up Easter dinner with family and she was she needed to get the alligator off the property. But she had to get some help. And that's when Mike Dragich arrived and shoeless. And he wrestled this gator into a garbage can. And it's actually hysterical looking because it kept popping up and hissing at everybody. It couldn't get out of the can, but it kept popping up to hiss. And nobody got bit. Thankfully, they called Florida Fish and Wildlife and they were able to take the gator. But yeah, you got to be careful. I wouldn't be able to let like my dogs out or well, we could probably kill one. Wick is hardcore. Wild raccoon attack. A Florida woman speaks out because she suffered one in her backyard. They're not pets. She said as soon as she opened up her back door, it bit her on the leg. It was like Monty Python screaming and a crazy raccoon. And she couldn't shake him off. And he chased her into a corner. And they had to call, she had to go to the emergency room. Animal control had to respond. Thankfully, the animal tested negative for rabies, but it was very aggressive. They had to relocate it. As we move our partners at Kel-Tec. Our Gen 3 Sub 2K, brand new, K-E-L-T-E-C, Florida-based company, great company, by the way. And the folks over at Kel-Tec, they have this, I mean, they have different versions of the fulled in-half carbine, but now you have it chambered in all kinds of stuff, including... Brand new, 10 millimeter. And everything made right here in the U.S. of A. All American parts, all American labor, and all American ingenuity. Single twist and fold motion of the rotating forend folds this quickly in half. Optics and all. You don't have to detach anything. And just as quickly, it deploys zeroed and ready to rock. It folds down to 16 1⁄2 inches for easy storage and transport. Takes Glock mags. You got a reliable blowback design ensuring ease of maintenance and consistent performance. A five-pound trigger pull for greater accuracy. Internal buffer for softer recoil. Rails up top for accessories. In-lock integrated. It's ideal for home defense, backpacking, and camping, as well as law enforcement, school, church. I mean, whatever it is you need it for, it's ready. And they have great, like I said, great innovative designs, and they stand behind everything that they make. Learn more at Caltechweapons.com. Innovation, performance, Caltech. K-E-L-T-E-C-weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Culturally, I tweeted about this last night because I saw this article as I was getting ready to go to bed. I was reading this. And it has to do with Pedro Pascal. Do you guys know who he is? Pedro Pascal was in, well, my favorite role was as Oberyn whatever, Martell. Oberyn Martell in Game of Thrones when he had his head crushed in. I thought that was his best role. That was one of my favorite scenes in all the TV. Popped his head like a grape. The Mountain Dead. He fought him. Anyway, so he has come out and he's attacking J.K. Rowling. As you know, they've had a massive legal fight and they had a big win in the UK over defining what, you know, protecting women and defining what they are. And he has come out and attacked her. He called her a loser, among several other things. He was also in Mandalorian and he was quiet when Gina Carano was attacked. Gina Carano just said it was pointing out some fascistic elements of the left and they went at her over it and fired her from it. Hollywood Reporter says Pedro Pascal blasted JK Rowling for her trans tweets. He called her a heinous loser. He commented on Instagram calling her a heinous loser. He's also in The Last of Us, which I don't watch. And he was responding to a post by an activist saying, who criticized her for celebrating the UK Supreme Court. They had a big ruling last week saying that trans women should not be recognized as women and sex legally means biological sex. Rowling was on her boat. She was with a cigar. And she said, I love it when a plan comes together. She's gloating and she has every right to. And she goes, I get the same royalties whether or not you read my books or burn them. Enjoy your marshmallows. And he went off on her saying awful, disgusting blank is exactly right. Heinous loser behavior. Now, one of the things that I've read is his sister apparently is he's got a well, he's got a brother who pretends to be a girl. It's not like actually his sister is. he's got a sibling, a brother, who came out and said that she was a girl. And he's gone to events with him before. He's taken his brother to events before. He has spoken up in favor of trans issues before. I think that kind of gives you some insight as to why he never said anything in defense of Gina Carano. And also, you get insight into this J.K. Rowling thing. He's making people mad, too. Lorraine found this because he called Rachel Zegler an icon. This is a throwback. Well, not too much of a throwback. It's just March of last year. But after all the stuff with Rachel Zegler and after she ruined the Snow White movie, he weighed in on it. And now people are kind of rolling their eyes at him. He called her an icon. He's just... He is... He will... Pedro Pascal is a pick-me guy. He will say whatever he has to say to ingratiate himself with Hollywood. Whatever he has to do, he will do it. And it's really... One of the most emasculating things I've ever seen. When I think of emasculation, I think of Pedro Pascal. I thought this for a long time. Any man that doesn't have the balls to stick up for his co-worker, much less a female co-worker, when she's being savaged unfairly and falsely in the press, you're just nothing but a sack of low testosterone. That's all Pedro Pascal is. He's a pick-me guy. He will kiss whatever backside he has to and possibly more, I think. In order to get more traction in Hollywood. It's just, it's cringe. He tries so hard. If you've ever seen any video of him, any red carpet appearance, anything like that, that's exactly what he tries to do. It's really cringe. Hey folks, so I want to share something important that every American should be aware of. We're seeing a lot of economic uncertainty right now. You have the national debt rising. Global trade tensions impacting markets and tariffs with higher prices on the stuff that everybody uses every day. It's not about panic. It's about preparation. So this is why I partnered with Gold Co., the top rated precious metals company, to help you take a step towards protecting your financial future. Smart investors look to hard assets like gold and silver to help weather the storm. It's a strategy that's been used for generations. And right now you can get a free 2025 gold and silver kit that breaks it all down for you. And if you qualify, you could receive unlimited bonus silver, real silver matched to your account with no taxes or penalties. It's a smart move that could help you feel more secure with what lies ahead. Visit DanaLikesGold.com to get started. That's DanaLikesGold.com and move forward with confidence.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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They're really trying to get you to freak out over bird flu. They're saying, oh my gosh, bird flu could be heading north this spring. Fewer federal health officials are working to stop it. I don't care. It's a virus. It's just, that's the way it is. Just wash your hands. Don't be gross and don't eat dead birds on the side of the road. I mean, really. How difficult is this, people? Do we have to freak out over everything? Stop it. Just take a breather. These people with these headlines. Good night. Panic in Austria. Borders are shut to two countries after a disease outbreak. Oh, but not to like the influx of people coming in from... all manners of the globe illegally. They said Slovakia has closed 24 borders, introduced strict measures to help prevent the spread of a highly infectious disease, they said. This is... It's foot-in-mouth. Foot-in-mouth disease. Again, just don't be gross. Be careful what you eat. I mean, what... Pain. What in the world? People know this. Second measles death reported in Texas. I mean, all of these are just like... And also... Texas AG is investigating Kellogg's over healthy cereal claims. Ken Paxton said that they're investigating Kellogg's over the artificial food dyes in cereals. Why does anybody eat... Why do anybody eat these anyway? Like the Pops and the Fruit Loops or Fruitios.
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From nostalgia, probably.
SPEAKER 04 :
I remember as a kid loving... I never had Fruit Loops until I moved out on my own and I bought a box of Fruit... I always had Fruitios. I always had like... the great value version actually growing up you're right we all we had cheerios dude i did not get cereal in a box like maybe a couple times it was always in bags right it was always in a bag remember when kicks came out kid tested mother approved that's a horrible cereal i used to like that because all i had was cheerios up to that point cheerios also was horrible unless you put a cup of sugar in it it's horrible does it why would anybody eat that grape nuts grape Grape nuts are horrible. That's like, go out and just, you know what, just beat up a squirrel and take its food. That's the same thing. You know what grape nuts is? Squirrels eating nuts and spitting them into the cereal box and they seal it up at the factory and send it out and people pay money for it.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's where grape nuts come from. Huh?
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I'm just saying. Anyway, just stop eating trash. There's your headline. But I've got more. What? Dana, we're done with your Dorian-ness today. That's okay. But you're not. NASA, by the way, we did miss this last segment, last headlines. NASA, they're saying that there is a mysterious structure on Mars that proves there was life on the red planet. It's a new book out. They said that they've analyzed dozens of photos of structures on the Martian surface and they are positive that they are man-made. Well, I don't know if they're watching what our headlines have been for the past 48 hours, actually longer than that. They don't want anything to do with us because the stupidity may be more catching than the hand, foot, mouth, and the measles. Can we talk about Lesbian Visibility Week? What? No. Yeah, we need to because I didn't know it was this week. I don't really want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's this week. Hold up. It's this week. It goes until Friday. Apparently, it kicked off, what, yesterday, today? Lesbian Visibility Week. It has a graphic, so you know it's official. When they come out with graphics, it's official. Lesbian Visibility Week. The one week which you can see lesbians. Any other time. And look, the graphic. Juan's showing you the graphic on the simulcast. It is official with that graphic. It's Lesbian Visibility Week. It's the week where lesbians can uncloak themselves and be visible in our community. That's right. You didn't know that, did you?
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They have the power of.
SPEAKER 04 :
There could be. I mean, well, this week they can't. But any other time there could be an invisible lesbian like in your car, Kane. You would know it because they're invisible.
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I had no idea.
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I'm telling you. And I have to read this tweet. I saw this last night from now. Her name is Governor Tina Kotech. I read it as Tina Kotech's. And I'm like, that makes all the sense in the world. She tweeted, I'm one of two lesbians who hold the title of governor in the United States. I'm proud to live in and serve a state where every person can be their authentic selves. How are you not being your authentic selves? Now, this is going to blow your mind, but hold up. Do you know that there are actual lesbians that go to work and don't talk about how they're lesbians all the time and preface everything with, did you know I'm a lesbian?
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That's how they're invisible.
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I'm telling you. I mean, if you're a lesbian and you're not telling everybody you're a lesbian, are you a lesbian? It's like if a tree falls in the woods, you know? Here's my question with the whole thing. Again, I have my scratched eyes, so deal with me. If they're invisible lesbians, this angers me. Why are they not going out on strike teams? Think about the baddies that we don't – like El Chapo or something. We could have sent in an invisible lesbian strike team, and they could have just kill-billed El Chapo, right? And then that would have been the wiser because invisible, right? Invisible. I just don't understand. And then you've got this governor who says, I'm one of two – well, I – Why do people have to constantly affix to themselves these identity politic boxes? It's like they think that somehow their specialness is magnified by however many identity boxes they attach. Right. So like, OK, you're a lesbian. What if you're a trans lesbian? Oh, my gosh, that person is more special than you are. I just, you know, I don't sit here and tell people, like, I really like guacamole, and I'm, like, really proud to be, like, a big guacamole lover here behind the mic. You know what I mean? I just don't do that kind of stuff. I don't understand why, you know, it doesn't make any sense to me why people do this. I don't know. I mean, then DOD needs to send them out as strike teams. I'm still trying to get over Governor Kotak's. I'm one of two people who believe the number of intersectional boxes you check determines your worth. Hold the title. That's what she's basically saying. Stop with this stuff. This is so goofy. You don't constantly, you know, need to list identity politics as like your lead in order to somehow give you worth. I mean, you have worth without all of this stuff. It just is goofy. We need a whole month devoted to how we get it on. What about like straight dudes into fat chicks or, you know, skinny dudes into, you know, super skinny? I don't know. Like, I mean, are we just going to start... Dudes who pee sitting down. They get a whole visibility week. Like, how are we, is this where we're going to go? Every little thing has to be played up as some sort of like identity politic check, you know, box check.
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Yes. Representation, I guess.
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I mean, but why are you not having representation is my question.
SPEAKER 08 :
Like the, for those, you know, faking that you don't have representation is kind of the grip.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, you're a governor. I'm pretty sure you're visible. No one sees me. I'm the lesbian governor. How did you get to be governor? Well, I was a lesbian, and then I talked about running for office. That's what. I think she's a DEI hire personally. But, yeah, I was really trying to get over Governor Kotak. It's Kotak, but still.
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