Host John Rush and guest Andy Pate, along with various callers, bring their favorite movie quotes to the show, unraveling the stories behind the lines. Get ready to reminisce about timeless classics and perhaps add a few new quotes to your repertoire. Whether you're a movie buff or simply love the art of dialogue, this episode promises to entertain and enlighten.
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Actually, it's Andy Pate. Party of choice. And welcome to our number two here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560. I am joined by Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. That's right. Okay. Now, one thing I want people to keep in mind here is that one person's favorite movie quote is another person has never heard of. This is a rather personal thing. I mean, there are some that are very popular, don't get me wrong. But the first one that I'm going to play, and I've played it before because I love the scene, but most people would not think of this. But I like the last line. Are you ready?
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Ready.
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Okay, here we go. Are we queued up? Here we go.
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Oh, Frank, we're no good together. All you ever look for is your police work.
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And you're always busy trying to save the end zone layer.
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Ozone layer. Ozone layer. He never tried to understand.
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How can you say that? I sank every penny I had into buying that 1,000 acres of Brazilian rainforest. Then I had it slashed and burned so we could build our dream house.
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Frank, how could you be so insensitive?
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Insensitive? You think it's easy displacing an entire tribe? You try it sometime.
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My friends and I were saying everywhere we went, you think it's easy displacing an entire tribe? You try it sometime. It just became part of our normal speech.
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Once I heard Leslie Nielsen talk, I knew exactly what it was. Those movies are so funny.
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They are so funny.
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They also had OJ in them.
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That, yeah, and it was really interesting because we saw the preview for the next one that stars Liam Neeson.
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It does, yeah.
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And they do a reference to OJ, which is pretty funny. I will just say it's very... It's wrong. It's wrong, but it's very funny. It's funny. Okay, Tanner, you are up. Let's have a movie quote.
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Okay. God, there's so many easy ones. I'm going to go with one that I just look up movies that I love, and then I'm like, what was the best quotes from that? And I'm like, oh, yeah, that one. Torture You? That's a good idea. I like that. Mr. Blonde, Reservoir Dogs.
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Oh, very good. Very good. Great movie, by the way.
SPEAKER 28 :
Oh, so good. Especially when that song comes on. I'm blanking now. Stuck in the middle with you. Yeah. And he's just dancing when he's about to torture the guy. It's so funny to me.
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It was just too cool. Okay, Corey, go.
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So I'm going to do one. This movie has so many references that we just take for granted as part of our culture now. But ding dong, the witch is dead.
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Oh, yes.
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And there's so many others throughout that whole entire movie. Is that Wizard of Oz?
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It is. That's Wizard of Oz. In fact, I'll tell you what, how about we do another one from that? Sound good?
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Sounds good.
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Here we go.
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Lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my!
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Lions and tigers and bears!
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Oh, my! Lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my! Lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my! Lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my!
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Now, obviously, in Green Bay, we'd always say Lions and Vikings and Bears. Oh, my. Lions. I mean, seriously, Packer fans would say this.
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Makes sense.
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Lions and Vikings and Bears. Oh, my. We'd look forward to the season every year. That was such. The movie is so classic. John Rush hates it.
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I'm not a big fan anymore. As a kid, it was all right.
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It creeps him out. Are you, like, against flying monkeys? Is that what it is?
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It sounds like he's got some personal problems.
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Yeah, that's probably it. He's not here to defend himself, so, yeah, sure. That's what it is. Tanner, you're up.
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Well, we've got to go with another Wizard of Oz. There's no place like home.
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Oh, yes. What a classic line. And, by the way, what a great message for the entire movie, which was such a cutting-edge movie, you know, going from black and white to color, back to black and white, and there's no place like home. Love it. Corey, you're up.
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I agree. All right, I'm going to do chick flick. As if.
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Well, let's skip on. I'll go next. Hey, you just ruined it. Okay, go ahead.
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As if.
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Oh.
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Clueless? Yes, good job.
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Yes. Throughout the movie Clueless, she would say as if. And it was very funny. Okay, here's another movie with Leslie Nielsen. Going back a little further. Here we go.
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Both pilots.
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Can you fly this plane and land it? Surely you can't be serious. I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
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Is that Airplane? Yeah, it's Airplane. Airplane had so many lines. But the thing about Airplane, and you forget this when you watch it, there's so little of it that I could play on air.
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Oh, yeah. No, that was the hardest part about some of these quotes. I know. Trying to find some that are PG.
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I know. Exactly. It was kind of a little bit difficult. Okay, Tanner, you are up.
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I mean, this is my favorite movie franchise growing up. Hate it now, but may the force be with you. Star Wars? Yes. Oh.
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I know which one it is.
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I was like, okay.
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I know, but you kind of give him a judgy look there.
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No, no, no, no, no. I think it's great. Okay. May the force be with you.
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May the fourth we just had as well.
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May the fourth be with you. Everybody doing that? May the force be with you was so huge when Star Wars came along because it so changed the entire landscape of American film.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, that was a movie that changed us. It was incredible. Okay, Corey, you're up.
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You are my density.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh. Back to the future. Yes. That's what the dad said.
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I was going to say Wicked because of that one song. But I don't know what I'm talking about. Or No Gravity or something. There's no shot I'm going to watch that.
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Well, I will say, though, Defying Gravity was really good. That song was a great song.
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I've seen the play.
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It takes you forever to get there. And I mean forever. And I mean forever. And ever, ever? To get there. But then the song is really cool. Okay, up next is Jersey Joe. Joe! What do you got for us? Are there any movie lines that you have actually enjoyed, sir?
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Two. One is, you're going to need a bigger boat.
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Yes!
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Jaws! Richard Dreyfuss and Robert Shaw. Robert Shaw, one of my favorite actors.
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Oh, my gosh. They were so good in that movie. You know, the thing about it is, you'd think, oh, back then, before shark movies became all the rage, So they were charting new courses here. They started out the Shark movies with two of the best actors of their time. And that was really incredible. Okay, what else you got, Joe?
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Well, as long as I'm talking about Robert Shaw, he was actually in one of the very first Bond movies from Russia with Love, which brings me to the point. Was he really? Remember the scene on the train, what happened? Robert Shaw was the Russian agent who had killed the guy that Bond was supposed to meet. And he took the place and they wound up in this battle to the death on the train. That was Robert Shaw.
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Wow.
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Okay. But anyway, but that brings me to Bond, James Bond. Yes.
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Yes. And I mean, so many people use that with their names now. Coleman. Tanner Coleman. Yeah. I did say Pate, Andy Pate, when I was introducing myself to Corey. It didn't go far.
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I was like, you're so weird.
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Then I just got on my knees and begged for the rest of my life.
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And since I'm from Jersey, I got to get this one since I'm from Jersey. Please. You talking to me? Oh, yes. Yes. Robert De Niro, taxi driver.
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Oh, yes.
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You talking to me?
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You know, and we talk so much about De Niro who has become, it's not just that he's a far leftist. It's he's so enraged all the time and angry and hateful with it. Joe, sometimes it almost affects me enjoying his movies, but not, you know, because he is one of my favorite actors of all time.
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He's one of the best.
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Joe, did you ever see, I keep asking John and Richard this, they have not seen it yet. I'm going to ask you, has anyone but me seen Midnight Run?
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I've not seen it.
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Oh, trust me. Trust me. It's one of his best movies. It is funny. It is really good. It's with Josh Grodin. No, not Josh. Charles. Charles Grodin. I was thinking Josh Groban because my wife plays him all the time.
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If I can find it on Amazon or Netflix, I will watch it.
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Oh, yeah. Do it. It is so good. Midnight Run, I totally recommend it. Do you have any others, sir?
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Oh, I got a couple here. Let's hear them. Al Pacino, say hello to my little friend. Yes.
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Scarface. Oh, classic.
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Classic. And I'm surprised you were doing Wizard of Oz and you didn't do the line, Toto, I've got a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.
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Well, as a matter of fact, here we go.
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Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.
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And the dog looks up and nonchalantly says, of course not.
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Right. And of course, one of the greatest of all time, you know, and of course, I'm here in Jersey, next to New York City. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
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Oh, yes.
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Godfather. Godfather.
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All right. Well done, sir. If I let you take them, you're going to take the rest of my sheet because you're clicking them right off my sheet. I won't have anything left for the rest of the show. So thank you so much, Joe. And Joe, are you still there? Okay. For those who don't know, Joe will also be here hour three on Tuesday. Up next is John and Cheyenne. John, do you have any quotes there?
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Oh, my favorite movie has five great quotes.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Can I guess the movie?
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Go ahead.
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Well, five quotes. That's got to be Casablanca. That's the most quotable movie ever.
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Oh, there you go. You got it. I mean, come on. I knew you were going to call, John. That's why I didn't do that one right off the bat.
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Well, I mean, look, Casablanca is just ultra quotable. Can I play one really quick before you, Sam?
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Oh, please.
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Okay, here we go.
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Mm-hmm. Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
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And wait, one more. I got to play it. Here we go.
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Uh-huh.
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He's looking at you, kid.
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I say that to Corey, it doesn't impress her, but I do say it.
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Yeah. Yeah. But you go back to the early, earlier in the movie about of all the gin joints and all the towns in all the world, how did she come walking back into mine?
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You know, these are great moves, great lines, first of all, but secondly, it was his delivery.
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Oh, it's great.
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Wow. Go ahead.
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But also, when Claude Rains looks in, goes, gambling? I'm shocked. I tell you, shocked. That's hilarious.
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And then the guy says, I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you, that there's gambling in this establishment. And the guy says, here are your winnings, sir. Thank you.
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That makes it great. One of my wife's favorites, and it has three good quotes for sure, is Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
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Oh, geez. Which one do you choose?
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Well, the first one is when Paul Newman walks up to Ted Cassidy and goes, we got to talk about the rules. And he goes, rules? No rules in a knife fight.
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Good.
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And then he goes, when Robert Redford looks at him when they're on the cliff and he goes, I can't swim.
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Doesn't he say the fall will kill you?
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Yeah. Don't worry. The fall will probably kill us.
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Oh, yeah.
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And then the best one is the railroad clerk when he goes, I work for Mr. E.H. Harriman of the Union Pacific Railroad. He must have said that like three different times. Oh, that was great.
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Can I really quick say a line that I like, though, is you think you use enough dynamite there, Butch?
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Oh, yeah, that adds to it, too.
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When he blows up the entire realtor to get the money.
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When I said, let's go to Bolivia, let's go to Bolivia.
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Are you getting coached? Yeah. She's sitting right next to me. We're in the car. That's what makes it better, man. That's what makes it better.
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And then the last movie, one more, if I could steal it, is I'm Eric Stratton running
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You dropped out, John. Come back. What did you say?
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I said, hi, I'm Eric Stratton, Rush chairman. Damn glad to meet you.
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Oh, oh, oh. Animal House?
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Animal House. Woo! Or, did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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John Belushi, Animal House. Oh, that was so great.
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What's the one?
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The guy, Germans? Forget it. He's on a roll.
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And the last one is, we're on double secret probation, whatever that means. You know what that means? Togo party.
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Toga. Toga. Toga.
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Yeah, that one's got a lot of great lines, too. So, Andy, you guys have a great weekend.
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John, fantastic job. Those are some of the most quotable movies ever. We'll talk to you next week. Take care. Up next is, let's take a break, folks. We'll come back with more movie quotes. I got a bunch of them. Up next is Paul Leuenberger. Paul is now an insurance broker shopping nine companies to find the best plan for you. Call Paul at 303-662-0789.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, along with Tanner Cole and my blushing bride. There we go. Okay, I'm going to do two back-to-back because they are very related to one another. So are you ready for a couple back-to-back? Ready. All right, here we go. and as i've always said that is when the first time john told richard he was his father poor richard i know it's very traumatic for him okay but it was also said very similarly in another movie here we go space balls before you die there is something you should know about us lone star what
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I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. What's that make us? Absolutely nothing. Which is what you are about to become.
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This is so funny. And both of those, both of those are quoted constantly by people. They're just too funny. Okay. Tanner, you are up.
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Let's go with E.T. Phone Home.
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Oh, that's good. I did not write that one down. I can't believe I didn't write that phone home. How could I leave that out? I'm not a good American. Okay, Corey, you're a better American. What do you got?
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I'm going to go with Somebody Called the Wambulance.
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The Kid.
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Yes.
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The Kid. That's a Bruce Willis movie.
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Yes, it's a Disney movie. Have you seen that one?
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The Kid.
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The Kid.
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I don't know. Honestly, and I think I was managing a theater when we had that play, and people were saying that to each other everywhere. Oh, yeah. Anytime anybody had a complaint, well, someone called the Wambulance.
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Yes.
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Someone called the Wambulance after that.
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That's a good one. It got a little worn out.
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Yeah. Okay, you're a good American. But you know who's a great American?
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Who?
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Dave in Woodland Park. Dave, how are you doing this week? Do you got some movie quotes? I do.
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Somebody stole my first one, the one I use almost every day.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, wait, wait. Was that Corey with her chick flick one?
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No.
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Okay, just checking. Just checking. Go ahead.
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Every time somebody asks me my name, I say, Bond. James Bond. Yeah.
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I love it.
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It's just so cool. Breakfast every Thursday, and that's what they call me. They call me Mr. Bond. And our waitress is Moneypenny.
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Oh, that's wonderful. That's great. I love it. I totally love it.
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Another one is from the first Christopher Reeve's Superman movie, one of the best lines when Lois is falling from the helicopter. And Superman comes and catches her and he says, don't worry, I've got you. And she says, you've got me?
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Who's got you? Oh, right. That's right. I remember that. Was that Diane Keaton? No. No, no. No, that wasn't Diane Keaton. That's Baby.
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No, no, no, no, no. I can't remember the lady's name who played her.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Wasn't she in Raiders of the Lost Ark as well?
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I don't think so.
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I'm thinking she was. Okay, but that's a great line. Yeah, you've got me. Who's got you? That was great. Great line.
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Another one is from True Grit, where Ned Pepper, John Wayne says, Ned, I mean to take you in in one minute to see you hanged. And Ned Pepper says, that's a bowl of talk coming from a one-eyed fat man.
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That was so good. Now, that wasn't right before he charged the field against him.
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Yes, that's right before he charges the field. And he tells him, fill your hands, you.
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Yeah, we won't say it on this Christian show.
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My last two are from my second favorite movie, Galaxy Quest.
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Oh, so good.
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Never give up, never surrender. Yes! Good job! Yes!
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Really quick, before you go on, never give up, never surrender was such a great line. Once again, everybody was saying it.
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Yeah.
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After the movie came out, everybody was saying never give up, never surrender. Corey and I were saying it back and forth. Hilarious. Keep going.
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And then Sigourney Weaver's complain as they're going through the jumpers. Yes! I'm not doing this. This episode is badly written. Yes! This episode should die. Yes!
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I know another one that I love is when Guy's freaking out on the planet and he goes, haven't you guys ever watched the show? Yes.
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And he's freaking out.
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I'm going to die. I'm just an extra. I'm a glorified extra. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And they're like, no, you're going to be fine. And then when the danger comes, she's like, we got to get out of here so they don't kill Guy. their movie was so good you know i'm almost glad they didn't do a sequel because yeah i just i just don't see how they could improve on it it was too fresh and it's it's one of those you can see over and over and and have you ever seen sigourney weaver be funnier i have not i haven't uh tim allen was hilarious oh my gosh and alan rickman he's so bitter Ellen Rickman was so good. May he rest in peace. He was fantastic. Oh, what a great cast.
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All right. He was so precious. Dave, awesome.
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You're a great American. You made the show even better. Thank you, sir.
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All right. Great show. See you guys later.
SPEAKER 19 :
See you guys later. Okay. Now, Margot Kidder. Margot Kidder. Okay, what else was she in? Was she not in Raiders? Am I wrong there? So I'm totally mixing her up. Golly, I'm mixing up actresses today. That's two. Not my day. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's see here. We're going. Let's go back before we forget. We got to go back to a little more Wizard of Odds. Here we go.
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I'll get you, my pretty. And your little dog, too.
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People were doing that all over the place. They were just, I mean, they were saying it constantly. And it got actually old when I was a kid.
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I hate hearing it still.
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Yes. It was cringy.
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The movies triple my age, so...
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Yes. And by the way, here's another thing from that movie. Every time somebody gets rid of vanquishes someone they don't like, maybe an election, you know, we just beat Biden or in, you know, or you beat a team that you hate or whatever. Ding dong.
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The witch is dead.
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The witch is dead. I mean, we hear that all the time. OK, Tanner, you're up.
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Let's go with, I mean, Rodney Dangerfield, you could pull any quote from any movie. I think he's the best comedic actor I've seen, to be honest. This one's from Back to School. Rodney Dangerfield is Thornton Mellon asking, what's your favorite subject? And Bubbles says poetry. He's like, really? Well, maybe you can help me straighten out my longfellow.
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That's very Dangerfield.
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Oh, my God.
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That's very Dangerfield.
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Every movie I've seen him in, I just fall on the ground laughing with the stupid things he comes up with, but they're fantastic.
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They really are. Back to school. He killed me. So good. He just killed me. Okay, Corey, you're up.
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Hi, I'm Earth. Have we met?
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Oh, oh, oh, Tommy Boy.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. No, I don't think so.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, you got the voice good. Thank you. That was a funny scene, and that was in the airport, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, when they're trying to get to Chicago.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, that was hilarious. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Here's a scene that is pretty funny, too. It's with Jim Carrey from Liar Liar. Here we go. What the hell are you doing?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm kicking my ass, divine!
SPEAKER 20 :
He's beating himself up in a bathroom to try to get out of a law case because he can't tell a lie.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that's another one that people were saying constantly. Anytime they did anything wrong, what are you doing? I'm kicking. There you go. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 28 :
Let's go with you've got to ask yourself one question. Do you feel lucky? Do you, punk?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, let me see if I've got that one. Here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kind of lost track myself. But Ian, this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off. You've got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky? Well, do you, punk?
SPEAKER 19 :
That was so good. Classic scene. And he actually said that in two different movies.
SPEAKER 28 :
I have Dirty Harry. What's the other?
SPEAKER 19 :
I forget. But anyway, Corey, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm going to do I am Stu. How do you do?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh. Oh. Stuber. Stuber. Have you seen Stuber? That's a newer one. It is. Stuber is not a great movie. It is surprisingly funny. You are going to laugh out loud several times. It's got Dave Bautista in it.
SPEAKER 28 :
And that other... I forget his name.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's the Indian actor. I forget his name, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and Nanjani, I think it is, his last name. Yes. Kamal Nanjani. Oh, my gosh. Stuber is really funny. I mean, I was shocked at how many times I was laughing when I watched that movie. So, folks, if you were thinking, my gosh, I'm going in on the weekend. I got a little dead time. I need something to rent. Give Stuber a try and let me know what you think. I think you're going to be happy. Let's take a quick break. I got several more and I got some funny ones coming up. Up next is Flesh Law. Corey and I, Corey right here, we won easily with Kevin Flesh. You can too. So call Flesh Law. That's F-L-E-S-H at 303-806-8886. Or you can go to FleshLawFirm.com.
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SPEAKER 31 :
As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes? No, I don't prepare my clients' taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it's working.
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SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with my blushing bride. And Tanner Cole. Man. He's all man. Isn't it great, hon? You get to be around a real man. I mean, you know, isn't this exciting? It is actually for me, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I don't want him to start blushing, so.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that's true. Okay, I'm going to go to an old movie that had more one-liners, so many you couldn't possibly count them, and they were all from Bill Murray for the most part, and this was Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters, when I first saw this movie, folks, I went to it with my sister, and we were breathless. We were laughing so hard, it caused physical pain. We were laughing so much at this movie. And I'm going to play a scene right now when they are brought into the mayor's office to explain what is about to happen to the city.
SPEAKER 05 :
What do you mean, biblical? What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor. Real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
SPEAKER 11 :
Forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes.
SPEAKER 05 :
The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria. Enough!
SPEAKER 19 :
Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria. That became a line that everybody was saying to each other at school.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, you couldn't get away with not saying it.
SPEAKER 28 :
Those were the days.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes. Anytime there was any kind of chaos at school, traffic, anywhere. Dogs and cats living together. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 28 :
Let's go with... I can't do his accent. But why is the rum gone?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, Johnny Depp.
SPEAKER 19 :
Pirates of the Caribbean.
SPEAKER 16 :
When they're stranded on the island, she burns it all to create us.
SPEAKER 19 :
And then she gives this long explanation. And then he just once again repeats the question, but why is the rum gone?
SPEAKER 28 :
Those movies are so good. I haven't seen them since I was a kid. I got to rewatch them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Especially the first one because it was so fresh.
SPEAKER 28 :
Even the ride at Disneyland is fantastic.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, wow. I haven't seen it. Okay. Cory, go. Squirrel. Oh, that. You know what? Actually, I've got a clip. Here we go.
SPEAKER 11 :
My name is Doug. I have just met you, and I love you. My master made me this collar. He is a good and smart master, and he made me this collar so that I may talk. Squirrel.
SPEAKER 19 :
What was that movie again? Up. Oh, yeah. And he would keep saying, he would keep talking, and then all of a sudden, look. Squirrel. Squirrel. Which was so rich. And once again, everybody was saying that too. Okay, got to do a couple clips here from Dodgeball. Here we go.
SPEAKER 35 :
If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. What?
SPEAKER 20 :
That's him with a wrench.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, and then one of my favorite lines in the movie, this is from the announcers when they are announcing the game. Here we go.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, no, I'm being told that average Joes does not have enough players and will be forfeiting the championship match.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.
SPEAKER 28 :
That movie was so funny. Ben Stiller was fantastic in that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, Ben Stiller. Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 28 :
He's so good in certain movies. It's crazy.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, he was hilarious in that movie. Dodgeball is another one. Now, that is one where I also laughed out loud a lot. It's not often because, you know, folks, I see over 100 movies a year. There aren't many movies that get belly laughs out of me.
SPEAKER 28 :
That one did. I think it was the same movie. They were supposed to play an all-girls team, and it's all these dudes. It's like ten dudes against them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, no, no, no. That's a different movie. They had one where they were playing against girls, and the girls were killing them. Right. What movie am I thinking about? You're up. So as long as you're thinking, give me a movie quote.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah. There's so many. It'd be a lot cooler if you did. It's probably my favorite quote.
SPEAKER 19 :
Sorry, I can't do it. Go.
SPEAKER 28 :
Dazed and confused. Matthew McConaughey. Talking about a joint or something.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, I can't believe. It's one of my favorite quotes. I've gotten all of yours. Yeah.
SPEAKER 28 :
McConaughey, anything with him, I'm in love with immediately.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well done, sir. Corey, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. Big mistake. Huge. I'm going shopping now.
SPEAKER 19 :
Pretty Woman. Yes. Pretty Woman. I'm sorry. The shopping scene from Pretty Woman, that's enough to make a chick flick guy out of me yet. Okay. That was so good.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's like the best revenge ever.
SPEAKER 19 :
Exactly. Okay. We got to go to one that's said over and over and over in many movies, but we got to go to it because we haven't done it yet. Here we go.
SPEAKER 35 :
I'll be back. I'll be back, Benny. I'll be right back. I'll be back.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll be back. I'm back. Stay here. I'll be back. I'll be back. You did not gonna say that, did you?
SPEAKER 25 :
That's what you always say.
SPEAKER 03 :
I do.
SPEAKER 19 :
That was last action hero. So there you go. I'll be back. I think it's really great for a guy like him to make a catchphrase like that. It was so much fun.
SPEAKER 28 :
Did he say that in Twins? That would have been funny.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, he did, I believe. Okay. Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 28 :
I got one chick flicks, so I'm going to do it.
SPEAKER 19 :
There you go. Do your one chick flick.
SPEAKER 28 :
All right. Gretchen, stop trying to make fetch happen.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, stop trying to make fetch happen. So, fetch. Mean Girls? No, no, it's not. It's... Darn it! I know this one! It's killing me!
SPEAKER 27 :
Oh, just saying. You were right the first time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Was it Mean Girls?
SPEAKER 27 :
Mean Girls, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, I thought it was a different one. Okay, Mean Girls. What do you know?
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 28 :
I actually like that one. So, fetch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Fetch. It is pretty funny.
SPEAKER 28 :
Do you like the original one or do you like the... Oh, I forgot they made a new one.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, the new one's not good. The new one's awful. Watch the original. Yeah. It's funny.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is.
SPEAKER 19 :
Corey, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Snakes. It had to be snakes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 28 :
Is that Snakes on a Plane? No. Oh.
SPEAKER 19 :
Got to go back.
SPEAKER 28 :
Indiana Jones?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes. There you go. Right, right. Yes. Wow, I didn't think you'd get that one.
SPEAKER 28 :
I love Indiana.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know. It's for your time.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah, the first three were great.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, I got to do one in honor of John Rush because this is one of his favorite lines, and this is from Major League. Here we go.
SPEAKER 23 :
Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.
SPEAKER 28 :
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
SPEAKER 19 :
It was really funny, and those two became best friends at the end, so it was really cool. All right, Tanner, you were up.
SPEAKER 28 :
The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, how could I not write that?
SPEAKER 28 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
I can't believe I didn't write that one down. It's such a great line.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is, but you can't take them all.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know, I know.
SPEAKER 16 :
Gotta share.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well done, sir. Corey, you're up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, since we were talking about history earlier, a shepherd must tend his flock and at times fight off the wolves.
SPEAKER 19 :
A shepherd must tend his flock and at times fight off the wolves.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think 1700s. British are coming.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm sorry. Oh, no.
SPEAKER 16 :
The Patriot.
SPEAKER 19 :
The Patriot.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. Wow. That's when the Reverend puts on his cap after the church service and he takes off to go join the militia.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Okay. Well, well done. I'm going to do one that's way before both of you. And I don't care because it's a classic movie and a classic line. And it's from Cool Hand Luke. Here we go.
SPEAKER 29 :
What we've got here is failure to communicate. Something.
SPEAKER 19 :
He was punishing him, and that's another line that everybody was saying. They were actually using it in other movies. What we have here is failure to communicate, and they used it everywhere. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 28 :
Let's go with, why so serious?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, well, yes, of course. You got it, Corey?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't.
SPEAKER 19 :
Are you sure? Yeah. Dark Knight.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. The Joker. The best character ever. Yeah, you're right. And one of my favorite actors.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, before we go on here, before Corey wraps up this segment... Is Heath Ledger's The Joker the best character in the history of the DCU, the DC Comics University?
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 19 :
I can't think of anybody who matches him. I can't think of anybody who comes close.
SPEAKER 28 :
I don't even know if you could say in the last 25 years if there's a better character.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, you can't. I would, you know, certainly for villains, I got to put one up there, but not that high. And that would be, geez, I'm forgetting her name now, but Harley Quinn, who rescued on her own several bad movies.
SPEAKER 25 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
But she was fantastic. But no, nobody was like Heath Ledger's Joker.
SPEAKER 28 :
I thought you were going to talk about Jack Nichols' Joker, and I was like, well...
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, Jack Nicholson did a great Joker, but it was a totally different kind of Joker for a different kind of movie. Yeah. And he did it perfectly. But Heath Ledger took it to just a different level. It was incredible.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah. That's one of the few movies I can still watch for a tenth time. Oh, yeah. It's amazing.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's amazing. Okay, Corey, wrap us up here.
SPEAKER 16 :
What is it with Men and the Godfather?
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, um... No, that's not... Sleepless in Seattle, is it?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's a different one by her.
SPEAKER 19 :
You've got mail?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Did I nail it?
SPEAKER 16 :
You nailed it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey!
SPEAKER 16 :
Good job.
SPEAKER 19 :
See, here's the difference. I have been forced to watch chick flicks. Tanner has not.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah, I told my sister, no shot, lady.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
We don't yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, and I'm with Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. And first of all, before we go any further, Charlie weighed in with one, which is one of the best ever, and I can't say the entire line, but Bruce Willis, diehard, yippee-ki-yay, mother, and I'm going to leave it there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good idea.
SPEAKER 19 :
It is such a great line, and people were saying it. Okay, what I'm going to do really quick here is play a few, and you guys say it as soon as you got it, okay? You can either say the actor or actress, or you can say the movie. I don't care how you do it.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead. Make my day.
SPEAKER 16 :
Clint Eastwood.
SPEAKER 19 :
Clint Eastwood. Classic. Okay, next. Here we go.
SPEAKER 31 :
I didn't think you had it in you.
SPEAKER 28 :
I'm your huckleberry.
SPEAKER 19 :
Movie?
SPEAKER 28 :
I have no clue.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's Tombstone.
SPEAKER 19 :
Tombstone.
SPEAKER 28 :
Yeah. I'm your buckle bearer. It's too funny.
SPEAKER 19 :
Val Kilmer. Okay, here we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't think we should be focusing on Loki. That guy's brain is a bag full of cats. You could smell crazy on him.
SPEAKER 13 :
I care how you speak. Some Avengers. Loki is beyond reason, but he is a Vasgard. And he is my brother. He killed 80 people in two days. He's adopted.
SPEAKER 19 :
That is Thor, of course, in, and you nailed it, The Avengers. Okay, here's one you won't know, but I like the quote. Here we go.
SPEAKER 29 :
I hear you turned 80 today. Is that what you heard? Yeah.
SPEAKER 35 :
Man, that's really old. You should meet my father. Your father's still alive? No, but you should meet him.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's on Golden Pond.
SPEAKER 19 :
On Golden Pond. Okay, here we go, really quick.
SPEAKER 31 :
What's going to happen tonight?
SPEAKER 29 :
You'll see. You can do it! You can do it all night long!
SPEAKER 19 :
Rob Schneider from The Waterboy. Okay, and here you get two lines for the price of one. Here we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
He didn't fall? Inconceivable! You keep using the word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
SPEAKER 19 :
obviously what movie princess bride yes which john rush has still not seen that's a great one it is a great one okay we got two more here they go answer that question i'll answer the question you want answers i think i'm entitled you want answers i want the truth you can't handle the truth yes who says that
SPEAKER 16 :
I'd have to look at our list. I can't remember.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, Jack Nicholson. A few good men.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't think I've ever actually seen that movie, but I know the quote.
SPEAKER 19 :
We just saw a Tom Cruise movie last night. And this one, guys, one last one. Here we go.
SPEAKER 15 :
My mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
SPEAKER 19 :
Obviously, who? Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump, Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks creating one of the most unique, different, wonderful characters in movie history. Can we all agree?
SPEAKER 28 :
I don't really like that movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, the movie I thought was a little long and stretched out, although I thought it was very good, very good. But I didn't love the movie as much as I loved the character.
SPEAKER 25 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Tanner, guess what? You are up. We're going to go rapid fire. Boom, boom, boom. No more clips. Go.
SPEAKER 28 :
I would like to buy an hamburger. I would like to buy hamburger. I would like to buy a hamburger. I would like to buy hamburger. Oh, what's that from?
SPEAKER 19 :
Go.
SPEAKER 28 :
Pink Panther.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh. So funny. So well done. Thank you. Go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, sorry. Our enemies may take our lives, but they will never take our freedom.
SPEAKER 19 :
Braveheart? Braveheart. Yes. Okay. We must take this man to a hospital. What is it? It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now. Airplane. Airplane, okay.
SPEAKER 28 :
Okay, Tanner, you're up. Licensed to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. A man free to kill gophers at will.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, come on, it's Bill Murray. Caddyshack. Caddyshack, yes. Classic. Corey, go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Houston, we have a problem.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's Apollo 13.
SPEAKER 19 :
Apollo 13, that's wonderful. Okay, if you build it, he will come.
SPEAKER 16 :
Field of Dreams. Field of Dreams, go.
SPEAKER 28 :
Who do they mean, he, God in that? No. Okay. Okay. Go. You like Huey Lewis in the news? American Psycho.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, gosh.
SPEAKER 28 :
Bryce is about to kill her.
SPEAKER 16 :
Excellent. Okay. Corey, go. Nobody puts baby in a corner.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, gosh. Nobody puts... Dirty dancing. Dirty dancing. That's right. Come on. Patrick Swayze? Yes. Okay. Here's Johnny. Oh, gosh. The Shining. Yep. Okay, go. Yo, Adrian. Oh, gosh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rocky.
SPEAKER 19 :
Rocky. That was so good. Go, Corey.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's just a flesh wound.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, let's see here. I got to do something different. There's no crying in baseball. Tom Hanks in what movie?
SPEAKER 16 :
A League of Their Own. A League of Their Own.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well done. Chick flick, though. That's why you didn't get it. Go, Tanner. What's up? That's... Scary Movie.
SPEAKER 28 :
That's My Boy.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, but they did it in Scary Movie, too. I did not know about That's My Boy. Okay, Corey, go.
SPEAKER 16 :
You are a sad, strange little man.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, um...
SPEAKER 16 :
You are a toy.
SPEAKER 19 :
Toy story. Wonderful. Okay. In fact, I'm going to do another one from there. To infinity and beyond. Oh, yeah. To infinity and beyond. Go, Tanner.
SPEAKER 28 :
King Kong ain't got something on me.
SPEAKER 19 :
I can't remember. Go.
SPEAKER 28 :
Training day.
SPEAKER 19 :
Training day.
SPEAKER 16 :
Gosh.
SPEAKER 19 :
Was that Denzel? Yeah. Oh, thank you. Okay. Corey, go.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rule number one, cardio.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, gosh. Oh, Zombieland. It was great. I did not remember a Denzel quote. I've lost it. My manhood's gone. Okay. Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
SPEAKER 16 :
Gone with the wind.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gone with the wind. Okay, go, Tanner.
SPEAKER 28 :
60% of the time, it works. Every time. Say the movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
Anchorman. That was great. Okay, Corey, go.
SPEAKER 16 :
We are worms.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, that is Hercules. Yes. Okay, I feel the need. The need for speed. Go. Top Gun.
SPEAKER 28 :
What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss? Oh, what is it? No Country for Old Men.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, gosh, yes. Great movie. Go, Corey.
SPEAKER 16 :
Your weakness is copper?
SPEAKER 19 :
Megamind, of course. Okay, let's see here. I'm the king of the world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Titanic.
SPEAKER 27 :
There you go. Go. Very nice. What is it? Borat. Borat.
SPEAKER 28 :
Funniest movie ever.
SPEAKER 19 :
Corey, go.
SPEAKER 16 :
You shall not pass.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, Lord of the Rings.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good job.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. I'm out. Let's see here. I See Dead People.
SPEAKER 28 :
Kendrick Lamar song.
SPEAKER 19 :
No. Six cents. Go.
SPEAKER 28 :
You're up. Each and every man under my command owes me 100 Nazi scalps, and I want my scalps.
SPEAKER 19 :
Inglourious bastards. Corey, finish us off.
SPEAKER 16 :
John Wayne? That's a terrible cowboy name.
SPEAKER 19 :
And that is... Shanghai News.
SPEAKER 16 :
Shanghai Noon.
SPEAKER 19 :
Shanghai Noon. Folks, if you have not seen Shanghai Noon, shame on you. Okay? I want you to rent it. I want you to watch it. You're going to have a lot of fun. That is it for today. Hour One replays next. Hey, Tanner, thanks for coming. Of course. Corey, thanks for joining us today. You're welcome. All right. Hour One replays next. Hour Two is at 6 o'clock again. Tanner and I, we return on Tuesday along with, once again, Britta Horn, Richard Rush, Eli Bremer, Jersey Joe. It's going to be a fun show. Until then, enjoy your holiday weekend. Remember those who laid down their lives so you could enjoy that weekend. Drive safe. God bless. And thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
Dive into the world of movies with Andy Pate as he leads a spirited conversation about the current state of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. With guest Tanner Cole, they explore how shifts in character dynamics have impacted the franchise, offering insightful critiques. Interwoven with humorous anecdotes and reflective insights on celebrating Memorial Day, this episode delivers a perfect balance of entertainment and thoughtful discussion on the values that shape our experiences.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I'm a pro, Jack. And who do you think they give you? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Pate.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 12 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I've acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 01 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 09 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 19 :
Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And I'm your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush, who is taking this wonderful weekend off. He will be back, I believe, next Wednesday. Am I correct there, Charlie? Yes, I am. And I'm joined once again by Mr. Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. That's right. You are nothing like Luke Cashman, I want you to know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good to know.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, if you could have grown a beard beforehand, it really would have worked.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, if that happens, we have serious issues.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wouldn't have been good for the marriage, would have been great for the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no.
SPEAKER 19 :
I just want you to know. Okay, now before we jump in, we are, of course, going into which weekend? Memorial Day weekend. And for those, some people get a little bit confused. I am a veteran of the Air Force, as some may know. Okay. Okay. No, I did not drop bombs. I was actually trained. I was ready to go into combat. They almost deployed me to the Middle East, and they called me back right at the last second because they wanted to win.
SPEAKER 04 :
They wanted you to direct the film Warfare.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they were. Well, you know, if I were dropping the bombs, they'd be afraid I'd hit the wrong side or something because I am colorblind and that would be really difficult for me. So, yeah, I did not go. For those who don't know, Veterans Day, of course, celebrates all veterans who serve in the military. And yes, we are very grateful for that. And we all love it when people say thank you for your service. We do not tire of it. We love that people show that kind of honor and respect. I don't know about honor, but certainly respect because we worked hard and we did it for a wonderful country. And Memorial Day, for those who don't know, of course, it's in Memorial. So it's celebrating those who gave their lives, which I never did. Of course, that's why I'm here. These are the people who laid it all on the line, folks, so that we could live the American dream. So a lot of people always ask me, they say, well, what do I do on Memorial Day? I've had people ask me this. And they're like, should we be somber? And yeah, I think taking a few moments and remembering, maybe going to, you know, see the headstones, maybe going and remembering those who laid down their lives for everything that you could have. But understand this. They gave their lives so you could live the American dream. So live it. Have fun this weekend also. Have the barbecues. Go hiking. Do whatever you do with your family. Live the American dream for which they died. Because that is exactly what they would want for you. But in doing so, always remember those who made it possible. Sound fair?
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds great.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Folks, we're going to have a fun day today because we have two big movies. Oh, my gosh. It's blockbuster season, and we're going to be opening with Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. We'll be doing that coming up next. Oh, wait. And after that, Lilo and Stitch, which actually is going to be the bigger movie this weekend. I was at Lilo and Stitch last night, and oh, my gosh. Kids everywhere. And I mean kids everywhere wearing the little Lilo hats, the Stitch hats, and all carrying the little fuzzies and going around. Oh my gosh. I knew it was big. Did you know it was this big?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, when I was growing up, that was a big movie. It's one of my favorite Disney movies, so I'm not shocked. And it looks decent. The live action, I guess you'd call it? Animated live action?
SPEAKER 19 :
It's another live action animated where they basically mix live action and CGI, and so they're taking a classic cartoon and bringing it forward. Disney has done this with many, so we always worry, will they wreck another one, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
True.
SPEAKER 19 :
They do not have a good track record.
SPEAKER 04 :
Have they ever made a remake that was good?
SPEAKER 19 :
Jungle Book I thought was pretty good.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, it's been more miss than hit.
SPEAKER 04 :
Snow White was fantastic.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it's been more miss than hit. And by the way, I just heard one little entertainment note. The next two Avengers movies, which were going to be released... Next May and the May after that have been pushed back, both of them. So they've been pushed back each six, seven months to December of 2026 and December of 2027. Before we go to break, I want to ask both of you, just be honest, okay? With the characters that they have right now in place, are you looking forward to an Avengers movie?
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
You're not. And what's missing?
SPEAKER 08 :
There's hardly any humor in these anymore.
SPEAKER 19 :
Or when there is, it's forced, isn't it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and the last one that we saw didn't have good chemistry amongst the characters either.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was really odd.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they've gotten rid of so many of the... Go ahead, Charlie. Charlie says it seems very dark. He's right. They've gotten darker, haven't they?
SPEAKER 04 :
I haven't watched any Marvel since Endgame.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, what does that say?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, they killed my favorite character, Robert Downey Jr.' 's Iron Man, and then someone else died. And, I mean, once I saw The Black Panther, I didn't really like that movie in the first place, but it just kept seeming to get a little too LGBTQ positive. It was. We need to include every race. get rid of all the white people, let's bring in every other race and every other gender possible.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, they did go through and, you know, you and I, we talked about it once before on the show with me, you and Luke, and I actually walked through all the white male heroes in Marvel who they have now replaced with something else. And I mean, it's staggering. It's like a dozen major names that have all been replaced, replaced, replaced. Every single one has been replaced either with a woman, with a person of color, with a woman of color, with a whatever. I have no idea. And it's just like, look, guys, I don't thirst to see white men on the screen. It doesn't matter to me. OK, but obviously they want to not. See white men on the screen and it's hurting them because here's what they're getting rid of. Obviously, Tony Stark and he was the center of the Marvel Universe. Let's be honest. He had the personality. OK, you got Thor. Now he's he's obviously being replaced by the girl that he's rearing.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't even know who that is. That's how bad it is.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. You've got what's his name from Guardians of the Galaxy?
SPEAKER 04 :
Chris Pratt. Pratt.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. OK, his character gone.
SPEAKER 04 :
Anthony Mackie took Chris Evans spot and they could have they coexisted for years.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, there was no reason to do that. Chris Evans was a terrific Captain America, and I love Anthony Mackie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, he's great.
SPEAKER 19 :
But it just didn't work. But that's just a sampling. I could keep going on and on and on and on and on. They decided there's one kind of person we want to get rid of. And the thing is this. You shouldn't get rid of anybody. Okay. Celebrate everybody. The cartoons, as they were written, were mostly white males, but there were a lot that were not, and that's okay. One of my favorite characters was Storm from the X-Men, which was a woman of color. Okay. Everybody's got their favorites. Wolverine, and the last one that they did, Wolverine and Deadpool, Deadpool and Wolverine, two white men, massive hit, and it was the last hit they've had. Okay. Okay. And Ant-Man is being replaced by his daughter. They're taking Paul Rudd out? Pretty much, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Everyone loves him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they're phasing him out and phasing his daughter in. That's what the idea was. And I think he's still going to do a spot, but it won't be much. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but also they rush these movies so badly. There's not really good writing. They don't edit anything anymore. And so you don't have these real quick, tight movies. You've got these things that just drag out jokes that miss. There's poor chemistry because the directing isn't great. It's just more disappointment than success.
SPEAKER 19 :
You said the key word, chemistry. It's gone. Okay, Tanner, have you noticed this? The chemistry is gone in these movies. The chemistry for the first Ant-Man was explosive. It was incredible. The chemistry for Iron Man, explosive. It was incredible. The chemistry for Guardians of the Galaxy was instantly some of the best I'd ever seen in my life. The chemistry for the Avengers, fantastic. The chemistry for movie after movie after movie. The original Black Panther, terrific. That got worse as it went along. They replaced him with his sister. The... which was a total waste because she was wonderful. But by taking her out of the funny character, they put her into the serious one and killed her best thing, which is humor, which was a real waste. I'm not even going to go down the road. Bottom line is this. They pushed them both back till the following two Decembers, which tells me they're having problems. And they are just missing. I don't know that anybody's excited about Marvel anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
I doubt it. They're probably waiting on the money to come in because they've had so many flops.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole and my blushing bride. That's right. Okay, Tanner, buddy. What's up? Got a question for you? Yeah. It's kind of personal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, I'm ready.
SPEAKER 19 :
Are you ready for a movie? I'm ready for a movie! Okay, Tanner, you know, Tom Cruise, you ever heard of him?
SPEAKER 04 :
He's kind of a... He's a great guy.
SPEAKER 19 :
I think he's got potential, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, Scientology is a great religion, so I think he's on to something.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, it's so funny. He is so likable, I can almost like Scientology, but no.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. I mean, everything he does, it's like, I still haven't even seen Jerry Maguire. Everyone tells me to see that. And I'm sure he's great in that, that he was a young kid.
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, I'm going to be honest. Jerry Maguire is kind of a tearjerker. It's funny at times, but it's a bit slow. I know I'm going to be hated for that. Okay, here comes the hate mail, but it is a good movie. It's a very good movie. Okay, well, Tom Cruise returns to finish one of the biggest franchises in cinema history with Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning.
SPEAKER 15 :
Smart people on every side are close to panicking.
SPEAKER 06 :
What exactly is...
SPEAKER 13 :
Your team has been betrayed, Ethan. All your secrets compromised.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everything you are, everything you've done, has come to this. You gave him an aircraft carrier? Some of our choices. This is your calling. Your destiny. I have no regrets. Neither should you.
SPEAKER 06 :
I need you to trust me. One last time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Come on, Tanner. Trust in Tom.
SPEAKER 04 :
I am excited for this.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, here we go. We begin a few months after Dead Reckoning with Ethan Hunt and his team battling to stop the Entity, a deadly AI which is hell-bent on world destruction. Aren't they all?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, they are. This is so different from battling a person, though. People, they got weaknesses. They got personalities. You can use leverage on them. The AI really doesn't care. You're a number. So, well, to recap, Ethan's team got to keep this in mind. We have Benji, played by Simon Pegg, Grace, played by Haley Atwell, Luther, played by the great Ving Rhames and Paris, played by Pom Clemente. More on her later. The early portions of the film center around the previous seven movies tying today's events with Ethan's life and how it has brought him and his team to this seminal moment. So they keep tying it in. Very interesting at times. Meanwhile, a villain named Gabriel, played by Esai Morales, and he's been in there before. He believes he can control the entity and make it serve his purposes. You know? Yeah, because that always works out well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Every time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, every time. Well, the entity is attempting to hack into the nuclear arsenals around the world so we can blow each other up. Apparently, we are the problem, which makes the entity much like Ultron from The Avengers. I mean, it really does. But this entity has no body, just a program. Well, anyway, the storyline is secondary to the action and the stunts. That's what we come for, right? We come for the action and the stunts. Now, there's an incredible sequence underwater with a submarine. Really, it's... Kind of mind-boggling. And then there's another one on a plane, which is also mind-boggling. Really? Those are the two biggest stunts of the show. There are some others, but those are really incredible. Now, the big question, of course, is will Ethan survive and stop the entity? Or is this a 007 swan song all over again? To find out, you're going to have to buy a ticket to Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't wait. Too bad it's not going to be on any streaming service for about four or five months because it's going to do too well.
SPEAKER 19 :
These will take a while. Okay, what works in Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning? Well, first of all, Tom Cruise is currently the most magnetic movie star alive. He's the new John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, or the newer Harrison Ford, Denzel Washington, or Tom Hanks. Cruise's daredevil approach transcends his Hollywood hunk image to being an everyman hero, wouldn't you say?
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. It's like this guy is as big as all of them, as great as all of them, but he's like one of us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Except he's 5'7", but yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah. Well, that helps, actually. He's great. Naturally, the cast is excellent and well-established. Simon Pegg, he has become the modern Steve Buscemi, the ultimate side character. He's just terrific. Atwell, she brings beauty and depth. Reims is a powerful presence throughout the movie. And Clemente might become the best new female action star out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree with that, too.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, she is terrific. Next, the AI threat. It's prescient for today, isn't it? Because it's such a big issue, right? The action scenes, they are dazzling. They've got just super impressive moments where, wow, what they come up with, you are just blown away. The scenery, of course, is fantastic. And there are some moments of humor. And the plot is easier to follow. It's kind of funny, too. The funniest line goes to Pom Clementeve.
SPEAKER 08 :
It does. Yeah, that was the best line.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and I'll even say the line. You won't know it's coming, so it won't matter. I kill people. And just so you know, it's the funniest line in the movie. Next, overall, you have a pretty strong send-off for the franchise. It's kind of like Harry Potter went more and more serious.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And this franchise has to, and I'll tell you right out, this is extremely serious. All right. What doesn't work in Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning? Okay, guys, I got to be honest here. There are some real downsides. First of all, this was a very poorly edited film with teary-eyed producers wanting everything kept in. It's two hours and 50 minutes, which can be something sometimes and nothing other times. And, Corey, you watch this with me. I would say you could have cut at least 30, maybe 40 minutes out of this movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was thinking 40, to be honest.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and we'll get to why in a moment. Next, this is huge. Unlike the lightning fast dialog of the previous films, remember those every time that they would say they would start to plan out their next caper and how they were going to do it? Well, that's impossible. We can't do it. We're going to do it. And here's how. Remember the the energy? We'll do this. We'll do this. Now I got to do this. This is state of the art. Now you got to do that. Now you got to go here. Now you go there. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Voices going back and forth, back and forth. And Ethan narrating as he goes through it. Right. High energy, high energy. Not here. This film has everyone talking in slow motion as they painstakingly describe every single step they're about to take.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was strange.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's almost, you know, they should have had somebody off to the side doing still life paintings of what they were going to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing Pictionaries.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pictionaries. There was this really awkward point where they were using flashcards in the background.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's what it felt like. It was, oh my gosh. First of all, they planned out way more than they ever have before. They went way slower than they ever have before in saying it and in planning it. And thirdly, they had too many steps taken. Several scenes could have been cut altogether and simply referenced. OK, the president has decided not to do this. The president has. We don't have to see this elongated scene with the president. OK, and it was just my gosh, it was unbelievably slowed down. Some of the action is just too over the top to be real. Now, I know you're saying, Andy, you're a killjoy. We expect that with Mission Impossible. That's what makes it cool. Come on, man. No, it isn't, actually. You could always, to a degree, somehow see how this actually could have happened.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I've been noticing this as the movies have gone on. They've had to get bigger and better and bigger and better. And so I think they've kind of... gone past the believability point I can suspend belief for a movie like this but there were a couple scenes where I was like oh come on nobody could survive that right right and I just got to say at the underwater scene with the sub
SPEAKER 19 :
And I'm not going to give it away, but all I'm going to tell you, folks, is these are freezing waters in the North Pacific up by the Arctic Circle. And I'm just going to say he would have been incapacitated in minutes, in a few seconds, for what he actually went on to do. And I'm not just saying that with me looking on and being a nerd about this, folks. I think a lot of people had to be watching this and going, no way. No way. And you don't want the action movie to have the action make you go, no way. Not unless it's a comedy. Then you love it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
But it was totally no way. Now, the stuff in the airplane, less so. You could actually see how as crazy and incredible as it was, you know, you could see how it was possible. Right. You could still look at that and go... Still possible. I'm still good. I'm having a ball with this.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's what I mean. Like that, it's like, okay, it's over the top, but I can see that happening. Right. Because it's Tom Cruise.
SPEAKER 19 :
Actually, the best scene to me wasn't Tom Cruise. It was Benji. As I'll just say, under very dire circumstances, he is having to coach two women to do other things for them.
SPEAKER 08 :
To save their lives.
SPEAKER 19 :
To save all their lives and basically save Earth.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pretty much. No pressure.
SPEAKER 19 :
Benji, in my opinion, had the best scene.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. Plus, I love Simon Pegg, so a little biased there.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, he's terrific. Okay, the humor wasn't nearly as good as it could have been. Benji was way too serious in this film. They had moments, but he was way too serious. Atwell, she's wonderful. She was Agent Carter. Remember her from Captain America? You ever see Captain America?
SPEAKER 04 :
I saw the original. It's been a while.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, she was a lady in that. She and Clementine, they were underused for humor, since both are very funny actresses. They can really do humor. Clementine was hilarious in Guardians of the Galaxy. She was the one with the antenna. Okay, and here she's a warrior, a fighter. And they were just underused. There wasn't nearly as much humor as you could have done with this cast.
SPEAKER 08 :
Agreed.
SPEAKER 19 :
And they could have what they should have done. Bottom line, folks, is they should have cut out several scenes, reference them and said, you know, reference this having happened and that having happened and only planned out, you know, two or three major things that they had to do. Shorten the planning, not have everybody talk monotone. and slowly have them go bing bing bing bing bing bing bing back and forth like they did in the earlier movies okay when they would plan something out have more fun with it they should have had much more fun with benji now the stuff with ving rames was fantastic wouldn't change a thing agree okay but that's ving rames the scenes they did wonderful with him but with benji man what a waste They could have done so much more with him. Overall, there were periods of this movie, especially some of the action points, especially the submarine, where I was more impressed than entertained. I'm like, well, it's very impressive. This isn't working for me. I got flat out bored many points throughout this movie. It was far too long, and they took way too long telling you what they were going to do. Corey, what do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
I would agree with that. I also thought there were some extra fights in there that weren't necessary. They just took up more time.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and the best fights were with Pam Clemente.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
She's the funnest one to watch fight. She really is. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this movie 79%, which is the lowest grade I think has ever been given on a Mission Impossible since the third one or the second one, I forget. And this is the eighth?
SPEAKER 08 :
Something like that, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
So this is a big drop off, folks. Quality, I'm going to go under 79%. Although, look, there are people who are going to go to this and they just want to see Cruise and they're not going to care. And they don't care if they've got to wait 10 hours to watch an action scene and have it described. And they'll love it anyway. They'll love anything. I'm sorry, but that's how it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the people next to us were kind of like that. Yes. They were loving every single moment.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right, but you could tell other people, look, I wasn't hearing hardly any laughter. I wasn't feeling the buzz.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 19 :
But I was down the stretch toward the end.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was definitely a fun movie.
SPEAKER 19 :
And it ended strong.
SPEAKER 08 :
It did, and it was worth seeing.
SPEAKER 19 :
Quality three stars. Political three, moral religious three didn't say a thing. Well, you know what? Political, maybe two and a half, because there's a lot of woke imagery, you know, black female president, which I'm fine with. That's fine. By the way, I happen to love the actress Viola Davis. But it was just like they were trying to once again do, as you were talking about earlier with the Marvel Universe, basically. push diversity into all kinds of roles throughout the movie on the submarine in the white house in so many places and the dumbest people were almost always white men almost yeah that is true okay and so you know i was a little weak in that thing do i recommend going to mission impossible the final reckoning oh come on yes i do okay do i think you're gonna love it as much as whatever are your favorite mission impossibles no i do not sorry folks i don't think it's a great send-off I don't think it's a terrible one, and I do love the very ending, but it's a long trudge getting there. That is Mission Impossible, the final reckoning. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
It sounds like they need to do the second final reckoning, movie number nine.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, do something else and shorten it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Benji, I... Get back to what they do well. I was blanking on who that was, but now that I've seen him, he was fantastic in all those movies. Oh, yeah. Maybe the funniest, best all-around character, because Tom's so driven on, we've got to get this goal done. You don't really get emotions from him or personality, whereas Benji, you get everything.
SPEAKER 19 :
Tom was actually the straight man to Benji a lot of the time, and they played off each other beautifully. They had great chemistry. Right. And they still do, but they don't do anything with it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I felt like Benji's character added a lot of life to the franchise, and I feel like he's the reason there have been nine movies.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Okay, well, you know what? Do you want something a little more hyper? Because that movie was pretty slow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. Hey, Corey. Got a question for you. Oh, yeah? I've known you for quite a while.
SPEAKER 08 :
A little bit.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, a little bit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 19 :
You betcha. You betcha. That's good. You do a good Wisconsin accent. You know that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I am from there, you know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Is that how you root for the Packers?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, yeah. Okay, here we go. there's another popular cartoon that has gotten a live-action CGI remake, and it is Lilo and Stitch.
SPEAKER 01 :
We have apprehended a dangerous experiment. Where is he? He escaped. He's trying to find the police cruisers.
SPEAKER 06 :
He, uh, he took the red one. What hideous planet is caught in your crosshairs?
SPEAKER 10 :
Shooting stars! I wish for a friend. Like a best friend.
SPEAKER 1 :
What the hell?
SPEAKER 10 :
He's so cute and fluffy! He is your responsibility. Got it? We promise.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Control him.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, what are you doing? Dogs on the table.
SPEAKER 10 :
You sure that's a dog? Yeah. Rough. All right, Cory, what do you think? Sound like fun?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not sure about this one.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, well, let's dive in. We begin on another planet as mad scientist Jumba has created a weapon. No, this isn't a nuke, and it's not the entity, though it's nearly as destructive. Instead, this is a small creature that is almost impossible to destroy, strong beyond its size, and boundless in destructive energy. So, you know, a regular toddler. Kind of like that. No, no, actually it's Stitch. This blue furry little creature appears to have downed ten expressos. That's what you would think. And the government shuts down the program, but Jumbo wants to control Stitch. Anyway, Stitch escapes in a little ship, crash landing on Earth, of course. There he meets Lilo. Now, Lilo, she's played by an adorable Maya Kiloa. She is a little Hawaiian girl living with her older sister, Nani, who's played by Sydney Agidong. I'm not quite sure how to say that, but she seems really nice. They've lost their parents and Nani is struggling to keep custody of Lilo. This is already difficult since finances are tight and Lilo is a friendless troublemaker. She's really tough. So she's already a handful. An older sister doesn't have any money, and she's trying to hold on to a job, and Lilo's making it tougher. She's in a real hard spot. Well, this all gets exponentially worse when Lilo adopts a new quote-unquote dog, Stitch. And won't bother explaining why Stitch was in this position to be adopted as a dog or why anyone would think he's a dog. Doesn't look like one. What matters? Who cares, right? What matters is that Stitch is far more destructive than Lilo. All right. So the two wreak havoc on Nani's ability to keep a job. So they're ensuring Nani will lose Lilo, breaking up the family. This is becoming a real problem. Meanwhile, Jumba has come to Earth with another super nerd named Pleakley, played by Billy Magnuson. Together, they are told to catch Stitch and bring him back. There's also a government agent here on Earth trying to catch Stitch. So now you have multiple stories coming together. We want Stitch. They want Stitch. Lilo wants Stitch. And Nani just wants to keep a job and care for her little sister. Throw these elements together and let Stitch trample them. And you have Lilo and Stitch. Corey, what do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Sounds entertaining.
SPEAKER 19 :
Sounds entertaining. OK, well, what works in Lilo and Stitch? First of all, I love the word and the message of Ohana. I really do, because that is the core theme of this movie. It's not just family. It's extended family. It's adopted family. And really, there's no grasp of this term on Stitch's planet, much like in American society. We're broken just like them. And I think that was kind of a message. And I think it's a good one. Next, the CGI is brilliantly woven together. I mean, really woven together well with live actors and sets. You know, sometimes they don't pull it off. Right, Tanner. Here, perfectly. Every little action, everything. When Stitch touches water, you know, the rings, the whole thing. It's done perfectly. Stitch's crazed shenanigans are a feast for kids wanting to watch unbridled energy tear up a world that limits them. This is why kids love it. Kids all feel restrained. They've got so much more energy than their parents.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they do. And they wish that they could just do everything that Stitch is doing. Stitch is the outward manifestation of their inner dreams.
SPEAKER 08 :
So they're living vicariously.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, totally. They are living vicariously through Stitch. And, you know, throughout the movie, I could just see kids looking up at their parents saying, oh, yeah, that's coming.
SPEAKER 08 :
Get ready. Don't even think about it.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's what I want to do to your car. That's what I want to do to your job. That's what I want to do to you. Really, they're living through Stitch, and this is why kids like it. Also, one last thing, there really is no woke messaging, just chaos.
SPEAKER 03 :
Perfect.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah, just have a movie. But what doesn't work in Lilo and Stitch? Well, going back and forth between Stitch and the aliens and people, well, that works better in a cartoon than it does in CGI. It kind of gets jarring, jumping back, forth, back, forth. It's a little difficult. Next, while Stitch offers lots of physical humor, the dialogue lacks wit. This is a real drawback, folks. Remember, you're trying to entertain parents as well as the kids so they can enjoy it together. And also, witty humor, if done right, is also funny for kids. Right. Watch The Incredibles, right? Watch, you know... Monsters, Inc. Monsters, Inc., right? The jokes that the parents love, the kids love, too, and it's lacking here. It really is. This just isn't that funny of a film with only a few funny lines. Also, the physical humor really gets old. It seems to just go nowhere. It's like it's being forced in every scene because they don't have writing. And so they're forcing more of the physical humor. I know that's kind of hard to explain, but that's how it came off. Next, point being, in a theater packed with kids wearing stitch caps and carrying stitch dolls, I wasn't hearing a lot of laughter.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that's too bad.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, just some. And you know, when I go to a movie like this, I'm watching it not for me, but for them. Okay, that's why I want a lot of them in there. And they were. And this was a real slog for adults. It was rough. It was a tough ride for adults, in my opinion. Next, I wasn't impressed with the two lead actresses, honestly. They were just okay. No one was great. 1.48, an hour 48 was far too long for this movie.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is long.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. Hour 28 would have been the way to do a movie like this. There wasn't much depth or chemistry with the characters. Mad. And even the Ohana, the family, the extended family, they really didn't blend together that well. They were just nice, likable people all saying their lines as this, you know, quote unquote Ohana. It really, it wasn't meshing. You've seen movies where it just meshes. Getting back to Guardians of the Galaxy, Tanner. These people didn't even know each other. Half hour in the movie, they're topping each other's lines. They're just going bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. You haven't seen Guardians. No. You still haven't seen Guardians? Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER 08 :
How is that possible?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't have Disney+.
SPEAKER 19 :
Name another movie. The Avengers. You've seen that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, how was the chemistry in that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Fantastic. Every single big star, it seemed like they had been best friends for decades.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Here you just got, honestly, rather nominal actors just saying lines. It wasn't really working. The movie felt rather lifeless throughout. And I read a bunch of other reviewers, and a lot of them felt the same thing. Even the ones who said, hey, I like this movie, a lot of them would admit, you know, it didn't have the life of the first. And then there were some who didn't like it, and they would say, yeah, I liked a lot of the action, and the CGI was brilliant, but it didn't seem to have the life of the first. Well, I'm telling you why. It was lacking chemistry. It was lacking great writing. And it was too long. Those are the downsides to Lilo and Stitch. Now, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 72%. This is a very difficult movie for me to review. Very difficult. Because I'm going to give it quality two stars. That's a little low. I know. I think it's going to be a monster hit. Huge hit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, well, just seeing how crazy the kids were. Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
You can daigle keys in front of children and they'll enjoy it. That's true. Okay, but this is a three and a half for kids. It's not a five, even for kids. There are movies that the wild robot kids went crazy for. Okay, this is not on that level. For me, it was half a star. This was a rough, rough watch. So what I'm doing is for general audiences, I'm splitting the difference and putting it at two stars. Sound fair?
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds fair.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, political three. More religious, I'm going to give it four. I love the family Ohana message. I think that's terrific. Do I recommend going to Lilo and Stitch? Folks, if you don't, your children will kill you. Okay. And no, I hope I don't get in trouble saying that. I'm kidding. Of course, folks. But they will not be happy. Let's put it that way. All right? And unhappy kids do not make for a happy home. So, yes, take them to Lilo and Stitch. Bring your phone. And that's all I can say. Up next, when we come back, we're going to talk about the Hour 2 topic. Sound good? Because we're going to have a lot of fun in Hour 2. Up next is Geno's Auto Service. If you're on the west side of town, get your car fixed by the best. Go to Geno's Auto, where customer reviews are off the charts. Seriously, before you go to Geno's Auto, if you're listening right now, I mean this, go online and look at their reviews. Wow. I mean, they're just praise to the hills. Call Geno's at 303-794-6700.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. Man. And my blushing bride. Corey. Corey, okay. Sorry, but I love doing that to you. Okay, we need to do the impossible question of the day. Here we go. Yesterday's impossible question. In the years 595 to 589 BCE, the capital of the kingdom of Kush was moved to what ancient city?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you said Kush, so Denver?
SPEAKER 19 :
No. No, they didn't have that much crime. Moreau, I think it is. I think that's what, it's kind of hard. I'm trying to read how it looks there, but Moreau. Okay, make sense?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I'm sorry. Today's impossible question. How long can a sloth hold their breath?
SPEAKER 08 :
I have no idea.
SPEAKER 19 :
First of all, did you know a sloth breathed? Can't they swim?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. They live up in the canopy of the rainforest.
SPEAKER 19 :
I would think you'd have to paddle faster.
SPEAKER 04 :
Since there's probably high altitude, I'm going to go with three minutes. Three minutes, Corey?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. Two minutes?
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, I'm just going to tell you both, it's way higher. So if you want to weigh in on the answer, folks, go to klzradio.com, go to rushtoreason.com, and weigh in on how long going to sloth hold their breath, I don't want to say until Tuesday. Sound good? And by the way, who's going to be with me on Tuesday?
SPEAKER 04 :
Your boy.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right. Tanner Coleman is going to be with me on Tuesday. We're going to have a lot of fun. We're also going to be interviewing the state chair. Oh, Britta. Britta Horn.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, so we're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to have Richard Rush doing sports. We're going to have Eli Bremer doing some more politics. We're going to have a lot of fun on Tuesday. Okay. In the next hour, our topic is going to be best movie quotes. Now, what makes a great movie quote?
SPEAKER 08 :
They're turned into memes.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yes. That's one big thing, right? They're turned into memes. You know, another thing I've really found the best movie quotes are the ones I wind up using in my day to day life. Every time I I'm in a situation that reminds me of that, I say the movie quote.
SPEAKER 04 :
I have a hard time remembering any movie quotes. I think there's about five, like I would actually say. But then when you look it up, it goes back to movies I've never seen or the most obvious ones that I don't want to use. I don't want to sound like I'm a pastor or I'm some great Revolutionary War veteran. I want a little comedy in there.
SPEAKER 19 :
You want to sound like a Revolutionary War veteran pastor. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they did play a big role in the revolution.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, they did.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just saying.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, you know, you would have, you know, just whole regiments of pastors storing over a hill.
SPEAKER 08 :
They led the militias. In fact, give them the Watts boys, I think is what they said.
SPEAKER 19 :
Actually, they did go up front a lot of times.
SPEAKER 04 :
My mother's side of the family thinks we're related to Robert E. Lee. Wow. My middle name's Lee.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I promise, Tanner, if we're ever in battle, I guarantee I'll push you to the front.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I'm the guy from Hacksaw Ridge. I'm carrying bodies. You're carrying bodies? I'm a long-distance sprinter.
SPEAKER 19 :
You're going to carry mine first. I will still be healthy. I won't have been hit. I won't be injured, but you'll just carry me off the field of battle.
SPEAKER 04 :
Running back towards the troops, screaming and crying.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Tanner, where are you? Exactly. I like to flee.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can see that.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that's what I do. But we're going to be doing movie quotes, and there are obviously countless ones. And I want to hear from people. It's 303-477-5600. And if you want to text us, it's 307-200-8222. That's 307-200-8222. And John Rush, who should be in range. Hopefully he will relay those to me, but I want to hear movie quotes that are the ones that come up for you a lot that you think about. Maybe they come up in conversation, like you're in a situation, you're at a mall, you know, and thinking charge like Braveheart or whatever, you know, but I mean, movie quotes are big. I think a lot of us talk in movie quotes. They've become so big in our lives. What do you think?
SPEAKER 04 :
I do more accents.
SPEAKER 19 :
You do more accents?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I already have an accent, but... Okay, let's hear one. I don't want to use one of my quotes, unfortunately.
SPEAKER 19 :
By the way, folks, if you want to call in and give a movie quote and do the accent poorly, that's extra points. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll be back.
SPEAKER 19 :
There you go. Sounds good. Sounds good. And yes, we will be talking about I'll be back.
SPEAKER 08 :
I thought it was convincing. I'll be back.
SPEAKER 19 :
What?
SPEAKER 08 :
I thought it was convincing.
SPEAKER 19 :
It worked for me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nice night for a walk.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. There are so many. So we're going to have a lot of fun. I want to hear your favorite movie quotes in our number two, and that'll be good. That's it for our number one right now. Once again, in our number two, our movie topic is best movie quotes. I'm here with Tanner and Corey. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 03 :
Average Guys. Ordinary Average Guys.
This week's episode of 'Rush to Reason' takes listeners on a journey through the thrilling and often complex world of movies. John Rush and his co-hosts discuss the rise of horror films, the financial chokehold of regulations on the industry, and how moving productions outside America has become an economic necessity. Don't miss their take on recent slasher flicks like 'Clown in a Cornfield' and the evolving cinematic landscape.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I tell him I'm a pro jack. And who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 14 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 17 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 15 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world.
SPEAKER 05 :
Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done. Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Happy Friday, everyone. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. You have made it through the week.
SPEAKER 08 :
We have made it through the week. I feel fantastic.
SPEAKER 11 :
What a fast week this week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Seems like it started and now it's Friday.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know. And summer is right upon us. It's amazing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and you like to enjoy summer, but this week, the way it went, and granted, we had some rain in the middle of the week that probably affected some of that, but it's like, holy cow, where'd the week go?
SPEAKER 08 :
I know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really fast. The older I get, the faster it goes. You're really old.
SPEAKER 08 :
How come I'm older than you, but I feel younger today?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't know. These fast weeks like this, it's just like, does it slow down ever? No, it doesn't.
SPEAKER 08 :
Are you excited about the weekend?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, I'm just looking forward to some, you know, it's going to be a little warmer, getting hotter on the weekends. Right. And we're heading into that, so that's fine by me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, yeah, I'm always excited for the weekend. And, okay, so before we get rolling along here, what do we got for movies today?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, today we've got Clown in a Cornfield and Fight or Flight.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so I'm assuming Clown in a Cornfield is scary.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you can kind of – it makes sense, doesn't it?
SPEAKER 11 :
The old Scarecrow?
SPEAKER 08 :
Obviously a slasher flick, yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, it's the old slasher flick.
SPEAKER 08 :
Golly, almost every week there's one now.
SPEAKER 11 :
They're cheap. And you've said this before. It's just because, yeah, they're cheap and easy to make, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they're cheap.
SPEAKER 11 :
Pretty easy return on investment, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, number one, they're cheap because, obviously, you're not doing a ton of CGI. The set design is very easy. And also you can, for the most part, either use new cheap actors – or older actors. A recycle one? Yeah, recycle some of the older ones who, well, either they're trying to make a comeback of some sort or keep their career alive, or sometimes they just haven't done this and they want to have some fun with a movie like this.
SPEAKER 11 :
And they can make a little cash by doing it as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Take a little cash on the side, have some fun. So why not? Yeah, but it is really, it's getting tiring and it accelerated threefold, I think, after COVID because so many, you know, so much of the movie industry was hurting financially that now over the last three years, it has been horror movie, horror movie, horror movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, before we get rolling along, I was going to ask you this on Tuesday, and I totally forgot, didn't really think about it. Trump's thoughts on tariffs on imported movies, movies made elsewhere. What are your thoughts there?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because a lot are. Yeah. I think that's going to be really hard to do. In this case, not pro or con here, just really difficult. And the reason is, is so many movies are blended in that way. Take, for instance, a lot of James Bond movies will have scenes from sites all over the world. You have a chase scene in Venice. You have a chase scene... See what I mean?
SPEAKER 11 :
Mission Impossible, similar situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mission Impossible, you're going to have scenes from all over the world. And that's simply by the nature of the topic of the movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
But the majority of the production is here, right? The final... It's like... Assembling something where you're getting parts from different areas, but the final assembly is here, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oftentimes, yes. Although, you've got a lot of movies now being made in Georgia. Actually, not Hollywood. But America's America. I'm cool with it. Here's the thing, is that you also have a lot of movies now that are simply made overseas. And the reason is it's so much cheaper. And this, look, the blame has to fall squarely on the left and the unions have driven up the price of labor. And not only the price of labor, but the regulations that you have in places like California just strangle the industry. And so a lot of what Trump's trying to do is not just, you know, put in some of these tariffs, but also go to California and say, look, you got to loosen up. You got to loosen up. You can't tell them they have to have this many black people, this many gay people, this much, this, this much, whatever you do, this environmental standard, that much. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and on top of that, you mentioned the union. Quit telling them how to run their business. Well, you mentioned this, and a lot of folks don't understand this, but a lot of the, not only convention centers, but movie sets and so on, when you've got those union contracts, you can't hop in, even if you're forklift certified and you've got somebody on set that is, unless they're union, you can't hop on that forklift and move that crate out of the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you can't.
SPEAKER 11 :
You've got to get one of those guys to come do it. You can't run an extension cord hardly, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, John, it's very difficult to simply run an operation. And when you can go anywhere overseas and instantly drop your costs by 70%, 80%, 90%, I mean, that makes it really difficult. See, there are... That's why you also... They're not all being put together here. You've got movies that are basically being put together in Canada, basically being put together in New Zealand. New Zealand does a lot. And this is becoming... China is becoming huge. It's becoming a real problem. But... Because of the fact, one last thing, because of the fact that the subject matter oftentimes is international, that's the difference between making a car part, right? The car part doesn't have a nation in its topic. There's nothing topical about a car part. There's nothing topical about a shirt that was made somewhere in Vietnam or whatever. This is topical. And so how can you tell people, geez, if you make something topically and shoot it on site to be realistic? then I'm going to put a big tariff on you. So I think he's going to have to mix that up somewhat and say, how about if I were to do it, I would say I want them to be assembled here. Obviously, if you've got to shoot on assignment overseas, no problem. That's part of the gig. Okay. But I want two things. Number one, I want these things assembled more here. Otherwise, you're going to pay that, say, 10% tariff. And number two, California and places like that, you have got to not a little bit, but majorly slash your regulations and your expectations because you're killing the industry. What do you think?
SPEAKER 11 :
You're a businessman. You're a business consultant. Agreed. And I wanted to ask you that on Tuesday to get a little bit more insight because I don't think everybody really understands everything you just said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and there's even more to it. I mean, I haven't even gotten into the take at ticket prices and how that goes. But, okay, you're a business consultant. You're on the outside. I've obviously looked at it more on the inside for many years. How would you approach the movie industry? How would you approach these states?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, I don't think you're wrong, and I think in his case he's got to get – Trump has got to figure out, to your point, how do you release those individuals that are here to be able to do the things they want to do. And you know where I stand with unions and all of that anyways, which I do not have any fond of, by the way. I've said that over and over again. Whether that be in the car industry, the movie industry, the whatever industry, I think they hamstring all sorts of things. They drive prices up. They don't represent their people like they should. They charge a lot of people a lot of things that they don't give anything back in return. They're nothing more than political activist organization when it's all said and done helping get certain people elected. On and on we go. At the end of the day, are they helping the worker? No, they are not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, because they're not putting out a competitive product with overseas. And especially when you're talking movies, John.
SPEAKER 11 :
In some cases, Andy, even internally in the United States of America, union versus non-union. They're not even competitive that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, not at all. But what I mean is, competitively speaking, movies are an international business by their very nature. Correct. Okay? Correct. Every single movie can be filmed. Look, you can pick up the film stuff and the film crew and all the tech, and you can move it anywhere in the world. You don't have to build a whole factory.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, good point. Very mobile.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome back to the Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560E. John Rush, together with Andy Pate. And John Rush. Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 11 :
I am always ready. Absolutely. Okay, John. Clowns.
SPEAKER 08 :
Cornfields.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm not a clown fan, by the way. No, nor am I. I just, they're creepy. I didn't like them as a kid. I didn't either. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Clowns. Cornfields. Outside of cabins in the woods, nothing offers more terror. So let's watch Clown in a Cornfield.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're really big on tradition around here. Every year, there's this parade where everyone gathers around a friend who floats.
SPEAKER 14 :
Friend who?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's the clown on all the bay pen corn syrup labels.
SPEAKER 19 :
He's practically a local legend.
SPEAKER 01 :
Smile, Philly girl.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're about to become a sensation.
SPEAKER 19 :
Be careful who you hang out with. There's some real weirdos at this town.
SPEAKER 18 :
What's this? Yeah, very funny, man. Hey, Ginger!
SPEAKER 13 :
You okay? There's a psycho dressed up like Brendo trying to kill us!
SPEAKER 16 :
Call 911! Where's the button, Jen? What is this? What is this? What kind of phone is this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, that's a funny scene. That is pretty good. I mean, they're trying to deal with a dial phone. They have no idea. They have no idea. They have no idea what to do. Where's the buttons? That's pretty funny. That is pretty good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, well, Katie Douglas and Aaron Abrams, they star as teenager Quinn and her dad, Dr. Maybrook. Well, after the loss of Quinn's mother, the two moved to Kettle Springs, Missouri, for a fresh start. Like many teenagers, Quinn doesn't appreciate her dad, so she rebels. Making it easy to rebel is the obvious friction between the age groups in this town. So they drive into the town and people are giving them looks all over the place. It's just very creepy. For some reason, the adults treat the young people badly with deep resentment. quinn quickly falls in with the wrong crowd in this case a group of local outsiders led by a guy named cole he's played by carson mccormick these kids have achieved online notoriety through pranks involving deaths at the hands of the local mascot friendo the clown now he's the mascot for the bay pen corn syrup company and you know what it's like when you have the company of the town how important is this business
SPEAKER 11 :
Major.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. It's the town. Yeah, exactly. I mean, the town basically runs off of the Bay Penn. That's right. Yeah, a corn syrup company. And Frendo is their mascot. And these guys are putting out... videos with friendo being a killer all right so adults hate their antics with the town legend well naturally it's only a matter of time before the real friendo shows up and he's ready to slice and dice what a series of pranks what was a series of pranks i'm sorry becomes a series of gruesome kills Well, perhaps on purpose. Clown in a Cornfield, it has tons of stereotypical characters, right? You've got the in-girl hottie, you've got her posse, you've got the awkward outsider, the jocks, the dopey sheriff, the heroic central character teens, right? And of course, all the obvious teen kill targets. Thus, during the annual Founders Day celebrations, our teens are fighting for their lives. Who will live? Who will die? And why would anyone want a clown in a cornfield? That's the story of Clown in a Cornfield. What do you think? It's got all the ingredients. It's got all the ingredients. Well, what works in Clown in a Cornfield? First of all, you've got plenty of annoying teens to eliminate. And that's always good. And a lean run time of 96 minutes. That's very good. I'll tell you what. I hate two-hour slasher movies.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they drag.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's like, I'm sorry, you don't have the characters to sustain this. It's not going to work. Katie Douglas, she's new on the scene. She's pretty good. Last girl, they call them last girls. Blending terror, bravery, and life struggles. She's going through a lot. You know what I mean, last girls. The last one to survive. Right. Yeah. The action presses forward with good timing on the kills. It's always important. You've got a nice buildup. The corn maze scenes are just what you would expect, which means lost, scary, and bloody. I like that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
You also have some moments of sharp dialogue. You've got some wit, and, of course, you have a terrifying villain. What doesn't work in Clown in a Cornfield? Well, sorry, it's a long list. First of all, boring characters. I didn't care about anyone, right? Kill them all. Kill them all, yeah. Yeah, kill them all, let God sort it out. But you can't because God's not going to bother watching. You've got a laundry list of stereotypes without the humor that could have satirized them. I'll get to that in a little bit. The only twist is for pushing a gay agenda. Now, I hope you really like watching men kiss. I mean, is that something you look for? Yeah, no. Yeah. Tell me out. Okay. This is a total agenda film. You got bad white adults longing for the good old days. I mean, they might as well have had MAGA hats on them, right? You got the righteous young gay guys. And, you know, you have black people in the town, but none of them are bad guys. So it's just ridiculous. Basically, what they're doing is making a horror movie making fun of middle America that voted in Trump. Without mentioning Trump and politics, all right? It needed more humor. This is important. Look, if you're going to put a bunch of stereotypes like that in a movie and set them up as stereotypes, then skewer them, not just literally, right? Have some fun. I want some good jokes. I want some funny back and forth. Okay, if you're going to do agenda, fine, do your agenda. But I want some funny back and forth, making fun of each one of these stereotypes, the jocks. The pretty girl, the hottie, you know, her posse, the outsider, all of this kind of stuff. They, you remember how Scary Movie made fun of the sheriff?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Have fun with it. They did not. They just totally fell short. The usual teens know everything. Adults are oblivious tropes. They get old. They really do. You had one of the least surprising Scooby-Doo villain reveals ever.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, pull off the mask and you know it. And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those kids. You know, it's always that way.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was that bad.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, but this was not surprising at all. It was just, you've got to be kidding. Really? It was totally predictable. The bottom line, nothing felt real in this movie. The town folk are exaggerated by writers who are bent on agenda. You could tell that the writers really hate middle America and wanted to depict middle Americans in this way. And they didn't do a buildup to show. You know, why would you have so many people in the town feel this way? It's not normal. It was like it was written about middle America by people who have never been to middle America. Right. And you kind of wonder, okay, John, you and I could totally expect this. Let's say if they propped it up by saying it's part of a cult. Oh, okay. You know, cults can happen in small towns. They can happen anywhere, right? Maybe it's something like that. They don't really explain it. It's not well explained. It's just an agenda movie. And it's rather boring. And it's just a straightforward slasher kill movie. And you can say, well, at least you get to see the kills in the fields and so forth. Yeah, but you know what? With what Hollywood's doing now, wait a week. Okay, you're going to see another slasher movie within a week or two. Who cares? I was not impressed. Rotten Tomatoes, it started out really high. It was in the high 90s for quite a while. And then the late reviews, which are usually the more honest ones, came pouring in and dropped it all the way down to 81%. So Rotten Tomatoes put this at 81%, but it was puffed up, I believe, by people who love the agenda. All right? Okay. This wasn't very entertaining. And I'm not saying that because I don't like the agenda. I'm saying that because I don't like agenda films if you don't make a great film. All right. Quality, one and a half stars. I was bored. I wanted this thing to end. It fell short in every area where I was hoping it would do something. Okay? Political, obviously, one and a half. More religious, two. No, make that one and a half, two. Let's go one and a half all across.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, I'm sorry. Guys making out. I'm sorry. Yeah. That's a rough watch.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't need to see that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's a rough watch. This was just not a very good movie. It absolutely was not as good as its 81% grade. It doesn't deserve it at all. Do not go to Clown in a Cornfield, folks. There are so many really good horror movies that have been coming out. I mean, good slasher movies where I watch these things and I'm like, okay, that is really good. That had me on the edge of my seat. That was exciting. What action. It also had some witty lines, some good characters. I actually cared. This had none of it. Avoid horror. Clown in a cornfield.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLC 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie? Absolutely. All right. Well, John, you know, ever since John Wick, if you notice this, we've seen more of these movies with action, action, action.
SPEAKER 11 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. John Wick kind of blazed the trail for that action, action, action. We've been seeing more of them. Well, here's another in Fight or Flight.
SPEAKER 14 :
What am I doing here, Catherine?
SPEAKER 13 :
We're tracking a high-value target.
SPEAKER 14 :
The ghost is a black hat terrorist.
SPEAKER 13 :
Deliver the mark to us alive. You get your life back.
SPEAKER 14 :
We have a big problem.
SPEAKER 19 :
There isn't a country in the Western Hemisphere that doesn't have a bounty on the ghost's head.
SPEAKER 13 :
Are you telling me that plane is full of killers? Rough night?
SPEAKER 16 :
Please open the door. One second!
SPEAKER 02 :
You're looking for someone that's on this plane? Uh-huh.
SPEAKER 14 :
And other people aren't looking, too. Right. Can you help me send the change in, too?
SPEAKER 16 :
Who hired you? You're not even sober.
SPEAKER 14 :
Are you ghosting alive? I'm free.
SPEAKER 12 :
What the hell are you doing? I was trying to help you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Now these people have paid a lot of money for first class service and I cannot have them disturbed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, John, that's fight or flight. What do you think? It doesn't sound bad. All right, let's hear a little bit.
SPEAKER 11 :
From the previews, it's not bad.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, let's hear a little bit more. Josh Hartnett, I like him. How about you?
SPEAKER 11 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he's real good. He stars as Lucas, a former Secret Service agent who, well, he upset the wrong people. I'll just say that. And he's now hiding somewhere in Asia. He's a full-fledged alcoholic, but still has amazing fighting and surveillance skills. Well, his ex-girlfriend, CIA spook Katie, and she's played by Katie Sackhoff, well, she now runs some truly unsavory missions. Lucas hates Katie for how things broke between them, and now Katie is in a real bind. See, there's a high-level target, the ghost, you heard that, and she needs this person brought in alive, but that target is boarding a plane in the Orient, and her closest team has already been wiped out. Her next team is an hour or more away. That's not going to work. In desperation, Katie turns to Lucas, promising she's going to wipe his record clean if he brings in the target alive. Problem is, no one knows who the ghost is. No one knows who the ghost is, so Lucas must board the flight, figure out the target, and then get that target back in one piece. Easy to understand, hard to do. But what happens if assassins from all over the world are alerted to the target being on that plane? Worse yet, what happens if those assassins also learn about Lucas, who is a high-value target himself? Well, now you have a battle within the confines of a jet with Lucas against the world. Kind of the John Wick thing, right? He's drunk. He doesn't know the identity of his target, and he's incredibly outnumbered. Get ready for action, action, action in the sky. Can Lucas possibly win? And can Josh Hartnett finally get us to forgive him for the movie Trap? That's the question.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which he did with M. Night Shyamalan.
SPEAKER 11 :
I have not watched that one yet.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, because I told you and the rest of the universe not to. And apparently people listened to critics everywhere because no one went to Trap. Okay. By the way, he did a good job in Trap. It's just, gee, what a movie. So... Really seriously, though, can this be a movie that puts Hartnett right back on the path? Because he is a fine actor. Here we go. What works in fight or flight? Josh Hartnett is perfect for this role. He's intense. He's good looking. But he's weathered. You know, he's not a young guy. He's not in his 20s. Right. He's in his 40s. And he plays a very good drunk. He does the whole thing. He does it well. Next, the fight scenes are the show. And there are more than you can count. There are constant fight scenes. They're very well choreographed. That's always important. You always want some interesting things done in them, and they have them. So, very good. Next, battling in this small space is like die hard on steroids. I mean, lots of crazy kills and pain, and you're in a little space. I mean, you're on an airplane. It's a huge jet, but still. Next, there are a fair number of funny moments, I'll just say that, with the flight crew being a bunch of sissies who don't belong in a war zone, and Hartnett bantering back and forth with everyone. Katie Sackhoff is solid in her role, and Charithra Chandran, she's perfect as the flight attendant with a secret of her own. The direction is brisk, and the runtime is only an hour thirty-seventh. Thank you, God. And finally, there's a good message about child labor being slave labor. I like that because I agree. Unfortunately, it feels forced, but still, it's a good message. And finally, I've never seen an airplane seatbelt used that way. I'll just say that. All right. What doesn't work in fight or flight? Well, first of all, the fight scenes, they get so bonkers that plausibility gets blown out the side of the fuselage. And I mean, I understand they're making that kind of a movie. I get it. But when you totally lose plausibility at times, you're just kind of like, I'm just watching, you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 08 :
People doing staged fights. What's the point? At one point, Lucas is drugged. Well, it's funny and it is funny. It also gets drawn out a little too much and silly. A fight or two should have been removed. This is my opinion. They should have removed a couple fights, allowing time to better develop the plot instead. Because the plot is an inch thick in this movie. This thing is mainly just for the fights. And I would have liked a little more time to develop the plot behind the target, the plot behind him, and the plot behind... everything that's going on into them. That was one of the strengths I thought of John Wick. John Wick was a movie where the plot was not an inch thick. You had all the same action, but you had a really good plot. You cared a lot about the characters, especially him. It mattered more.
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they didn't allow this to matter as much. It's not nearly as bad as clown in a cornfield. Nothing like that where you literally do not care. So we'll get to this. Finally, one central element was very implausible. The target developed something far beyond all the greatest tech minds in the world. You better set that up better than they did, and they didn't. It was just like, no, this person is not going to set something up like this that is better than all the tech minds in the world can do. You have not set this person up as that kind of a ridiculous genius. Got it. Better do that first.
SPEAKER 11 :
Not that sharp.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. I mean, this person is very sharp, not that sharp. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this movie, they gave Fight or Flight 78%. I think that's very well-deserved, John. I'm going to give it quality three and a half stars. This is a good movie. It's a fun movie. In fact, I say it's a lot like Beekeeper. Oh, okay. I liked it. Right. I like Beekeeper. Good movie. I'll put it this way. I thought that the action sequences were actually better choreographed in this, but Beekeeper, I thought I had a little deeper story that I cared about a little bit more, a little more development of the main character. All right. However, just the fun of being in that in that jet the way they were in this. I had the same fun as I had a beekeeper political three more religious three doesn't doesn't preach at me at all. I like that. All they did was make a movie and they had fun doing it. Do I recommend going to fight or flight? Yeah, I do, folks. This is a fun movie. This reminded me of what was the last one? Flight risk.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yes. Now, that's on a little, you know, just three people in a little plane, right? And that was a surprisingly good movie made with Mark Wahlberg. This is, I believe, on that level. It's a lot of fun. Go see Fight or Flight. Just get away for the weekend.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Sounds like a great movie. Great time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. It's worth it.
SPEAKER 11 :
We haven't had one of those in a while like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Every now and then you need a beekeeper. That's what I feel. Which I liked. Well, yeah. That's because you and I, we share something. We like stupid movies. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And it's good. I like dumb fun. I get it. It might not be all plausible, but who cares? No. At the end of the day, who cares?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And both this and the beekeeper, some of the stairway hallway scenes at the end were just like, all these people could just mow him down. They're waiting to go one at a time. You're losing me at this point. Still a lot of fun. I didn't care. This had some of that, too.
SPEAKER 11 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Hey, impossible question of the day. Yesterday's was, who was the U.S. president during the annexation of Texas? That would be Polk. He was our president then. That would have been in 1845. December 29th, 1845. Okay. So there you go. Today's impossible question. What element has the atomic number 92? What element has the atomic number 92? I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
No clue.
SPEAKER 11 :
Charlie, anybody? No? I wouldn't know this one either, so there's your... There you go. That's why it's called the impossible question.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
So answer that on our Facebook page. All right, so we've got coming up here in the next hour, it'll be just Andy and I because Richard is on vacation this week, but TV, movie, and... So moms in TV and movies is what I meant to say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Any... No, very broad.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, if you want to, you know... TV shows and movies with moms that are prominent characters. There you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so can't just be like a mom in the background. We want mom to be... Yeah, somebody who waved once in the background. We want it to be somebody that's actually involved in the show or the movie or whatever.
SPEAKER 08 :
They've got to matter. Yeah, they've got to matter.
SPEAKER 11 :
It can't just be like, oh, she showed up one time and now she's gone sort of a thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, that's not going to cut it.
SPEAKER 11 :
And this is, again, in honor of Mother's Day, which is Sunday for some of you that hopefully haven't forgot, but I wouldn't think anybody would forget that, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I wouldn't think so.
SPEAKER 11 :
It is Sunday, so all you guys that are out there. Now, a piece of advice to husbands, by the way, if you have kids. There's always that saying of, well, why should I get my wife anything? She's not my mother. Well, she's the mother of your kids. So, yes, you get her something.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. Actually, the thing to do is you should be talking to your kids about Mother's Day for the week or two coming up. For the couple weeks preceding, hey, what are we going to do for mom? How are we all going to, you know?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Yes. Trust me, the last thing that should come out of your mouth is... Well, she's not my mom.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that would be... Yeah, dodo head. You know, we do have a good lawyer that we can recommend here at Rush Reason. Do not say that. He does a great job.
SPEAKER 11 :
I've heard. You can tell. I've heard guys actually say these things, and I've heard those words come out of their mouth, hopefully not in front of their... But you do not want to say that and you do not want to be that man that has nothing on Sunday for the mother of your children or your own mom, for that matter. Please make sure that you get those things taken care of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Make it special. And look at it this way. Hey, you only have to make her special one day a week, one day a year.
SPEAKER 07 :
Then the rest of the year, you can totally ignore her needs. Sure, Andy. Let's see how that works out. Exactly. Yeah, let's see how that goes. Let's see how that goes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can I ask this question here? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, I'm sorry. And, you know, we've talked about this before, but it's been a long time since we have.
SPEAKER 11 :
I might steal this for tomorrow's show on Drive Radio, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let's do it. Okay. Because it's getting nicer out, so it's becoming more... What is your biggest pet peeve while driving? And by the way, if anybody wants to mention that in an hour or two, feel free. I haven't asked you this in a while. I've got a few. I'll lead with the obvious one. Go ahead. Left lane liberals. You mean the ones that want to slow you down because they're in the left lane? Right. Speed nannies. They're speed nannies. They want to drive slow in the left lane. And what they do is they drive slow in the left lane. Or another kind of speed nanny is you're on a two-lane road. And they're holding you back, and the second it goes to four, they speed up. They're speed nannies. I despise speed nannies. I hate them. Why do you want to hold back other people's lives? Just drive.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because they're control freaks, Andy. You know that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. This is a huge thing. By the way, out in Aurora, we have a road called Gun Club, okay? And it goes on the east side of E-470 for a very long way. Right. Long way. Okay. Gun Club constantly has people, and by the way, I believe a lot of these are illegal immigrants, all right? Okay. Constantly has people driving 10 to 15 miles under the 55-mile speed limit. Well, because they don't want to get stopped. Right. And the rest of us are legal, and it's just like, will you please? All you got to do is, you could go 5 to 10 miles over the speed limit, and you're absolutely safe. What are you doing? Stop it. And you drive by them, and... And I hate to say it, John, you almost always know that the people you drive by, when they're going incredibly slow like that and they're speed nannies, they're going to be one of three people. And I hate to say this.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is Andy talking, not John.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is Andy talking, so you only have to shoot me. They're going to be people who are probably not here legally. Okay. Very elderly people, at least with them I understand someone. Okay, that I understand. And please take this the right way. I'm sorry, minorities.
SPEAKER 11 :
um generally that's the case well i you know i i have no idea why well i will tell you that a lot of folks that come from other countries because they drive differently in other countries than they do here and one of my biggest pet peeves i have a few too andy okay one is semis in the left lane so big trucks in the left lane i don't care if it's a box truck i honestly i don't care if it's a landscape truck get out of the left lane you are not supposed to be in that lane and here's here's a You're not a speed nanny, but you can't keep up with traffic the way you should be in the left lane when you're towing a trailer and doing other things. Second of all, you shouldn't be going that fast in that rig anyways, because typically the left lane's driving 75, 80 miles an hour, most anywhere around town. Right, again. So you should not be in that lane anyways. And last but not least, all you're doing is clogging up traffic for everybody else. Yeah. Get out of that lane.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let me say one more thing. You're not maneuverable. Let's say you've got three or four lanes going one way. People in the left lane or two are usually people who are passing or maneuvering. They're not crazy drivers. They're probably going about 10 miles over, which is perfectly safe.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let them roll.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let them roll. But I'm not talking about the 95-mile-an-hour weavers.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's a different person.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm just talking to people who are getting where they're going a little faster than you. your truck can't maneuver like them.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're going to cause an accident. Last but not least, before I take Dave, and this comes from the other country drivers as well, people out of country, people that drive with their hazards on when there's no real hazard. It's raining. The hazards are on. It's all of a sudden there's a little bit of traffic ahead. The hazards are on. They see a pothole. The hazards are on. No, folks, we don't use hazards in this country that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know who the hazard is? You. Them. You are.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. Dave, welcome.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, my pet peeve, oh my goodness, is people that don't know how to use an on-ramp. Ugh.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or off. Get up to speed. Either one, off or on. Because again, Dave, whether you're getting on and merging in like you're supposed to get up to speed, on the same token, when you're getting off, you don't slow down until you're on the off-ramp.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Yeah. That is, oh, my God, because I live up on a mountain. Yes, you do. And I drive down to the highway, and there is an on-ramp. You can get on the on-ramp because nobody's in that lane. Thank you. Nobody is in that lane. They're in the neck. They're in the traveling lane. Drives me nuts. And, oh, my goodness, I sit there. I want to get on the side of them.
SPEAKER 11 :
I want my snowplow in the front of my car and just push them out of the way. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, that was a... Good one, Dave.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so the mom movie, I can't remember the name of the movie, but Samuel Jackson was in it with her, and she forgets that she's a mom. She was a spy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yes. Is that The Long Kiss Goodnight? Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Geena Davis?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good one. Good job.
SPEAKER 11 :
We'll start with that then, Dave. That was... That was so good. Good job. Way to go, Dave. Start us off. Thank you, Dave. I want to get John in really quick before we take a break. John, you've got two minutes. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Andy, you do know that if it's a Subaru Outback with a coexist sticker blocking the lane, you can get underneath them and make them loose and put them in a wall. It's bad.
SPEAKER 11 :
You guys are bad.
SPEAKER 10 :
Bad, bad, bad.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I'll tell you what. Liberals with those coexist stickers, so many of them want to be speed nannies. It's incredible. They love it. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
They love it. Real quick, John, from yesterday, the third point I wanted to make was on your Bill 1312. Yeah. Polis is going to leave that in the drawer, not sign it, let it go into law. So then when he runs for president, he could say, well, he didn't agree with it, so he didn't sign it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that's not much of a defense in his case because he knows it'll become law anyway. So that's weak.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, and that's why he'll do it, so he can get away with it. Last thing, I've got to go to an appointment, so I can't call in. The best TV mom was also a doctor, and that would be Dr. Beverly Crusher. Oh, yeah. Okay. Good one.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. We'll take that.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. You guys have a great day.
SPEAKER 11 :
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason. All right, we are back. Myself, Andy, Charlie, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Next hour, yes, we're going to be doing TV and movie. Mom, some of you already got that fired off, which we appreciate. Andy threw something out, which I think I'll use on Drive Radio tomorrow, which is, you know, you're driving pet peeves. Andy, I could keep going. I have a lot.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, okay, we got a minute here. Really quick here. You're turning right at a stoplight, or just at a stop, right? The lane that you're turning into, you have your own entry lane.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, it's a continuous lane, you mean?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, no, the car, you have an entry lane getting onto the next road. Okay, gotcha. The car in front of you is waiting for the light to change.
SPEAKER 11 :
To turn green?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Why?
SPEAKER 08 :
Or they're waiting until all the cars are passed, and you're looking at, let's say it's a stop sign, but you have your own entry lane.
SPEAKER 11 :
You mean like the one down here off of a 225 on the Parker?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I do mean like that one, John.
SPEAKER 11 :
And so they're waiting. I was hoping to get somebody today to get out of that lane.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, this happens a lot with, once again, illegal, you can tell. I know. Because they don't know, they don't seem to understand, guys, you can go. You don't have to hold people back. You have your own lane. You're waiting until all the traffic goes by before you enter.
SPEAKER 11 :
The traffic or driving habits, I guess is what I should say, Andy, are different from country to country. And some of this I know because I go to Mexico enough to know how things are done there. And, yeah, they don't drive like we do. I'll just tell you that straight up.
SPEAKER 08 :
They don't.
SPEAKER 11 :
They don't drive like we do. No. That's where the whole hazard thing comes from.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, John, I don't care where you go in the world. Learn the rules.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, that's a whole other conversation that we could talk about on Tuesday. All right, guys, hang tight. We're going to be back. Another full hour coming your way. Again, TV shows and movies with moms. Andy and I will be right back. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Good afternoon, Denver. Today I am filling in for John. This is Bill Anderson, your preparedness pastor, your modern day Noah. And today we're going to talk about a little bit of kind of reservation and with this whole preparedness thing. Today is 523, and we are live. If you want to call in with any comments or questions, 303-477-5600. We welcome your call and your feedback and your input. It's always great when we have a little bit of participation. So, you know, through the course of the many topics we have covered here on this program, I'm sure there's a lot of people that, you know, may have some opposition, some reservation, maybe even, you know, as a listener, you have a little bit of, well, I don't know about that. So let's kind of go through. I've pulled up 10 things here of what I think that, you know, is maybe some of the most common reservations to this whole idea of prepping and preparedness. So the first one is normalcy bias. which means nothing's bad ever happened to me, so nothing will. And I think this is a dangerous trap that we can fall into because, you know, just because everything's been fine so far doesn't mean it will be tomorrow. You know, everybody thinks things are fine right before a hurricane or a tornado. We actually had a tornado out here in Elizabeth just a week or so ago, and so it's kind of crazy. didn't hit us, you know, thankfully it was north of us, but, uh, you know, it was pretty close. People were calling us and guess what, you know, Albert County. did not send an emergency alert out. So, you know, there was no way to prepare through the government, if you will, and their notifications. So we can't fall into this trap of nothing bad has ever happened to me, so nothing ever will. People assume life will continue, as it always has, and they don't understand the risks and the society's ability to respond to disasters, especially like what we just had here locally. Hey, we didn't get the warning. We thought it was going to happen. So, you know, how do we kind of deal with this if maybe we're thinking this or maybe we're talking with somebody, a family member or a friend, and kind of trying to encourage them to, you know, hey, get some things on hand, get ready for something that may or may not happen. You know, it's all in the future for all of us. But how do we do that? I mean, one of the ways is to share stories of everyday disturbances. I've talked about it many times. Hey, you could lose a job. You could have a storm. You know, the grid can go down. And by the way, we have seen these just recently. You know, the economy is going down. I was listening to the news this morning. And on average, you know, every year the unemployment is going up and up and up and the jobs are going down and down and down. And that has been a common or a continual trend for many years now. So, you know, hey, you might be next, you know, in your job. And a lot of them are self-employed. Well, you may lose a contract. You know, we've had that experience in our particular business. Storms, like I said, just last week we had a tornado right here in Elizabeth. Grid failures, we've just recently seen that globally. We saw the air traffic control go out up there at DIA. and also pandemic shortages, or we can add in there, you know, tariff shortages if you want to. It doesn't really matter. Any of these things we see today, and we should be able to relate with that and stop thinking that, oh, we're safe from all that because we're not. We can use these current events to show that how quickly things can change, especially we're all very familiar with, you know, the pandemic that happened and how quickly, literally like overnight, all of a sudden stuff changed. And we also got to avoid the fear mongering, focus on reality and resilience instead of, hey, let's, you know, this could happen, this could happen, because prepping isn't about fear. It's really about, you know, the frame of mind. All right, so the next thing is the perceived cost. So there's a lot of people out there that go, hey, I can't do that. You know, it's going to be super expensive. It's too expensive. I'm barely making it as it is. I just spoke with somebody that I know that happens to work at, you know, the local Safeway, and he's telling me stories, people coming through with their grocery carts, and I didn't believe it. Didn't believe it, but I know the guy and I know he's going to be honest. He's not going to lie to me. And he's like six and $700. And, you know, they don't have very much in their cart. And I'm like, really, are you kidding me? I mean, he's like, yeah. and the stuff people are buying is crazy. There are people out there that are trying to decide, hey, do I buy groceries this week or do I pay for medications or do I pay for whatever? You fill in the blank. My utility bill, gas to get into my car, whatever. That question is definitely coming into play. So yeah, it can be expensive, but it doesn't have to be. Many people believe that prepping requires thousands of dollars of gear and food and And there is part of that, a part of that, that whole commercial market of, hey, I'm in the prepping world and I'm going to, you know, tell you all about doomsday. And by the way, I got, you know, X piece of equipment that will only cost you, you know, 400 bucks and it's going to solve the issue. And my response to that is skill will always outperform gear. Gear is important, but the more skill you have, the more knowledge you have, then the less equipment and tools you'll actually need. So you don't need to go out and buy land if you don't have it. You don't need to go out and spend tons of money on food and gear. You can start small and build gradually. And this is a good idea anyway. It's a good idea. And go through, me and my wife have what we call, we go through freezer fast. So, you know, for some reason, you know, we buy things and then whatever you bought ends up at the bottom of the freezer, right? And it could be in there for a couple of years and it's like, hey, let's start rotating and going through our freezer instead of going to the store. That's what we call, you know, going through a freezer fast. And so we're going through that right now, and it's, you know, we're not going to the store and spending $600 or $700 on groceries because we're able to actually start utilizing what we have in there. You know, hopefully you've stored it properly so it hasn't gotten freezer burnt or whatever. So, you know, the cost could be a consideration. But, hey, why don't you start with just $10 a week, you know? I mean, that's not going to get you far, but it'll get you something. You can buy a lot of cans. canned goods, a lot of them are a buck a piece, you know, you can buy some water, you can buy whatever for, for 10 bucks and just start there, you know, start this layering program. I talk about these layers and I think it's important, you know, when you're last week, we talked about the the travel bag and it's like, Hey, you should have a on the person's layer. Then you have your, you know, maybe a more expandable pack, you know, on your backpack or whatever, and then you have a bigger pack in your car, and then your ultimate pack may be at home or whatever. You can kind of do the same thing, right? We start layering our prepping. We start for three days. Hey, okay, what do I need for three days? And, you know, food, you probably don't need any food for three days. Most of us can probably afford to, you know, fast a little bit and shed some pounds there. You know, people are like, I'm starving. I'm like, you're so far from starving. You know, you've got a lot of food in the fridge there, meaning on your body. But water is definitely very important. But let's start with three days. Hey, and then move it to a week. Okay, now move it to a week and a half or two weeks and building from there. Whenever I talk about, especially with food, you know, really the ideal target is six months. Now, why do I say that? Why do I say six months? Because during the chicken egg craze, when everybody was like, oh my gosh, I got to get chickens because the eggs are through the roof. They didn't realize it takes six months for that chicken to get to the point where it can lay an egg, you know, and the price of eggs is going to go, who knows where it's going to be in six months. It could be back down to normal, right? So six months when you plant that little seed, yeah, they do have, you know, radishes and some lettuces and you can get some 30 day lettuce, 30 day spinach. You can do all that. But for the most part, when you're planting that tomato, you know, Hey, it's, it's a good chunk of time. It's a couple months, 60 to 90 days, depending on the variety of tomato and, you know, whatever it may be, cucumber, watermelon, corn, whatever, uh, wheat, it's going to take time for that to grow. And so if you're planning out for six months, then you start that process. Then during the growing season, during the time of raising your chickens or raising your rabbits or growing your produce, you still have stuff to maintain until you get to that point. So that's a good starting point. But listen, that's overwhelming. Oh my gosh, six months of food, that could cost so much money. Yeah, but not if you just start with you know, three days, and then move it to six, then move it to nine. Hey, in three-day chunks, you can build it up pretty fast. And then you also highlight, hey, what's free or what's, you know, cheap? How can I learn to maybe eat some of the weeds available? Now, that sounds kind of weird, right? Eat the weeds? Did you know? I can't believe this. I was talking to somebody the other day, and I said, hey, you can eat dandelions. And they're like, what? They've never heard of that. I remember... My grandparents and my aunt going out in the yard, taking dandelion flowers when they're yellow and the young leaves and throwing them in the salad. And they went out there and actually it's pretty healthy for you. So learn what kind of resources people, there's been people that have starved in, you know, national forests and out there in the wilderness, they've starved surrounded by food because they didn't have the knowledge to They didn't have the knowledge. So, yeah, I said this earlier. Skill and knowledge will always trump equipment because I know how to take care of you know, eating some of the foraging. I know how to use some of the weeds out there like mullein and comfrey and yarrow, and I know how to use that for first aid. I also know how to maybe start a fire with some sticks and things. And so that doesn't cost anything but a little bit of time and knowledge to research that stuff. and to learn. All right. So we've covered a couple of them, the normal bias. Hey, everything's going to be great. We've talked about the perceived cost. What about John and I's favorite topic, the social stigma. People think I'm crazy. People think I'm one of them crazy doomsday preppers, right? That's kind of going away a little bit, to be honest with you, because people are like, you know, yeah, I kind of get it. You know, and whenever you watch the show's And I talked about this at church on Wednesday, but reality-based TV is so far from reality. We even actually had a guy in church on Sunday said, hey, I was on a show, and you're right. They told me word for word what to say. And then they're like, hey, this friend that you've known for years, act like this is the first time meeting him. It's all staged, right? So when we start looking at a lot of these especially these survival shows, you know, which we like. The most recent one we liked to watch was Extracted. That was a pretty fun one. But, you know, when you watch Alone or when you watch, you know, whatever it may be, it may not be reality as we would see reality. And so Doomsday Prepper, it's like they're looking – Producers are looking for the extreme. They're looking for the drama, right, because that's what people want to see. And, you know, it's pretty boring stuff, actually, survival. It's pretty boring. But, yeah, there's a weight that that brings. Like, these guys are nuts. They're nutjobs. So this whole culture portrays preppers as, you know, these paranoid extremists discouraging people from associating with them. And it's like, yeah, that's not really the case. You know, because you go back several, you know, a couple of decades back to, like I say, our grandparents. And it's like, you know, it's really not that case. I mean, everybody had a small garden. You know, in fact, World War II, they had World War II victory gardens. It was a patriotic thing. to actually be prepared because the more you're prepared, the less of a burden you are on the government, the less of a burden you are on society, on your neighbors. If you're running around all of a sudden needing from everybody, that's not being patriotic at all. So we want to change the narrative from doomsday prepper and use different language like, hey, self-reliant or resilient or or Ready Radio. So we share, you know, stories of our grandparents, our families, maybe even normal people. Like, hey, I'm a pastor. I'm a normal person. Well, you know, maybe you don't think I am. But yeah, normal people do this kind of stuff, especially out where I live in Elizabeth. It's like, yeah, a lot of people have chickens. A lot of people have gardens. A lot of people have goats. It's like, you know, you're kind of a weird person if you don't, that kind of thing. So it's not about being paranoid. It's about being prepared. And by the way, preparedness people or prepared people aren't crazy. They're calm when others become panicked. So just kind of keep that in mind. Uh, don't worry about what people think about you, you know, because if this stuff happens, you know, you're going to kind of be the hero. All right. What about procrastination or I'm, I'm, overwhelmed. There's so much to learn. I don't know where to start. I'll just do it later. You know, the whole thing of overwhelming. There's too many options, too many things to decide. Where do I start? How do I start? What do I get? You know, I talked about, you know, stuff out there that's being sold that a lot of it is junk. You know, I'm just sorry. I'm sorry. Like a lot of these multi-tools, you know, yeah, most of them are junk. You know, have you ever tried to actually turn a screw? You know, these screwdrivers on the multi-tip that I broke because, you know, they don't turn a screw. A lot of that stuff is in there. We watched a, on our last trip, there was a documentary on Victorinox, which is the Swiss Army knife. And they have all these parts and pieces in there. And I'm just thinking that, Man, most of that stuff isn't really practical. It's gee whiz stuff. And what I mean by that is like, yeah, gee whiz, you got that, but it ain't no good. It's display only. It's a novelty item. So that could be overwhelming, yeah? I don't want to waste my time, my effort on stuff that I don't know is going to work or not. So the idea of preparing for every possible disaster, yeah, it can be overwhelming. It can be paralyzing. And it can put people off because, hey, that's a big, big elephant in to swallow right but we do that one bite at a time so we need to make it simple and we need to make it practical practical so how do we do that well we can look at things such as hey prepping in in 30 days do a google search on that and there's so much free stuff out there we're working on one on our website prep2protectco.com it's up there but it's a little premature if you guys have you know, signed up to receive that, and I haven't got it out yet. But, you know, there are 30 days in prepping. We're getting ready to launch a kind of a social media campaign, if you will, through Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook, all of those with our Prep to Protect brand, and we're going to be going through these steps, you know, for the next 30 days, and we're actually going to break it out into four weeks. all the different areas. But you can break it into themes like I'm going to be doing on water, food, power, gardening, livestock, and you just take little tiny chunks at it. And all this stuff, it doesn't take a lot, especially if you do just a little. You don't have to do it all. You just got to take one step at a time. That's it. So just one simple step towards that. And it'll get you started. Most of the time, though, we just stay paralyzed and we don't move. It just takes one step. You know, a lot of times we just lack the want to. Some people say, hey, I want to do that. And my response is, well, do you want to do that or do you want to do that? Because there's a difference. You know, if I want a bowl of ice cream and I sit on the couch and go, hey, I want a bowl of ice cream, and I just sit there, well, I'm just wishful thinking, right? I'm like, hey. Drop a bowl from out of the sky. I want one. No, but if I really want one, I got to get up and go get it. And if I don't have any in the freezer and I got to go to the store, well, if I really want it, then I'll get in the car and go. You understand? So it's like, yeah, I want to do that. But do you really want to do that? A lot of people struggle with that because they have great ideas and they never put anything to it. So it's just kind of wishful thinking. So, so far we've talked about, you know, four items of the 10 that we're going to be going over, but it all is going to boil down to, yeah, I want to do that. Okay. What do you really, really want to do that? All right. If you have any comments or would like to chime in on those first four, give us a call 303-477-5600. 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All right, and welcome back. So we are talking today about some of the opposition or resistance to preparing and preparedness and getting kind of ready. A lot of these things we talk about, you know, in theory sound great, but are we taking action on this stuff? You know, having an understanding about something or maybe even just reading about something or hearing it. It doesn't really make you an expert, right? You can, oh, yeah, I heard something about that, but I never did anything about it. That's kind of how we ended before we went to the break here. So, so far we talked about the normal bias, right, where I'm like, hey, nothing ever bad is going to happen to me, so nothing ever will. We talked about the perceived cost that this is expensive and I'm barely making it as it is. We talked about the social stigma. People are going to think I'm one of them crazy doomsday preppers. And then we talked about the procrastination or this is really overwhelming and it's just too much information. So the next one I want to talk about is, you know, we become dependent on the system. So if something happens to me, the government will help me or somebody else will help me. This is a frustrating thing, even, you know, to all preppers when we start talking about, hey, you should kind of take care of yourself. You should get some things in order. You should maybe stock up on a little bit. And the response is, well, I don't have to because you're doing all that. That's really kind of a shot in the stomach. It's like, well, what do you mean? Well, I don't need to do it because you're doing it. Okay, well, I'm doing it for me and my family. I'm not doing it for you. I mean, we already talked about being overwhelmed and the cost of all this stuff. I can't do it for everybody. Now, yeah, we want to help everybody out, but the reality is we can't. And it's a pretty selfish idea that somebody would have when they think, hey, I don't need to do anything because somebody or the government will take care of me. I don't even understand that mindset because, you know, how many times have we heard it's taking longer and longer to for emergency response to get out there. I just said earlier in the program here today that we had a tornado last week. I think it was on Sunday. And our county did not send out the emergency broadcast. You know, how you get the thing on your phone or the sirens. I didn't hear no sirens. I heard nothing. And that's a big complaint on Facebook. You know, the groups of our area is, yeah. Yeah. the emergency response notification system did not go off. So are you trusting, hey, I don't got to worry about tornadoes because there's a siren, or my phone will give me, you know, an alert, or maybe my neighbor will come tell me. Guys, that's a dangerous spot to be in. I mean, we could talk about, hey, if we have no electricity, how are those things going to work? If you have no electricity, how is the cell phone tower going to repeat the signal for you to get that notification on your phone? If there's something happening, your neighbor's probably worried about himself. He ain't worried about running over to you and tell you. It's kind of crazy, right? We have to take some responsibility for our family. You know, the Bible talks about he who does not provide for his own household is worse than a heathen. Wow. That's kind of crazy to think of it in that terms. So many just trust the government. They trust FEMA. They trust, you know, social services, social networks to save the day. I don't really need to worry about that. You know, the cops will come and help me. The paramedics will come and help me. And we're grateful that we have them, right? And they're trying their best. Don't get me wrong. We're grateful that we have these systems to help us out, but they too can be overwhelmed. Think about if a big tornado goes through your town. Yeah. Who's going to get prioritized? You probably think it's you, but you may not be at the top of the list, right? And by the way, if their homes and the fire stations and stuff are knocked out, now that those trucks and those people have to come from another county, farther away. How long is that going to take? So we really have to be careful of putting our trust in anything. And this is where I define self-reliant, not that we become a hundred percent self-reliant. You know, there's a fallacy and I mentioned it last week with John that, you know, anybody that says, Hey, I'm a hundred percent self-reliant. That's not true, right? I cannot produce my own fuel. There's things I cannot do. There's things that I definitely have depended upon other people. And when you go back in later or earlier cultures and later societies there, you'll see that that's how they work too. You know, you had the blacksmith, you had the town doctor, you had the merchant store. You know, not everybody had a store. Not everybody was a blacksmith. Not everybody was a doctor or a dentist or whatever. But they did what they could before they had to go to that next level. But they all work together. And, you know, they all, you know, traded things and, you know, you bring a chicken to get your tooth pulled or whatever. But, you know, there is that collectiveness that you got to create within your community, maybe within your family, whatever it is. But really don't be so self-absorbed to think, oh, they're going to take care of me. You know, what if 911 doesn't answer? What if the stores closed for 10 days? What if? I mean, look at Katrina. Look at COVID again. Look at that big freeze they had in Texas. Systems fail, guys. And we can't trust systems. And there's a whole other side topic of we can't really trust government maybe. And so we have to come back to that same conversation again. Self-rescue and family readiness is so important, and we must take that seriously. Help may not come right away, but maybe you can be the help, right? You are your own first responder. Maybe the guy across the street needs help. Hey, I can maybe help him out, right, because the system isn't going to help. So that's a good way to think about that. But be careful on the dependency of systems. All right, the next excuse I hear all the time is I have limited space or I'm limited with my mobility or I'm too old. So I can't store anything. I don't have room. I live in an apartment. I live in a wheelchair. I have you fill in the blank. I'm too old. I hear that one all the time. Oh, I'm too old for that. Well, people, you know, they have health challenges. Everybody has health challenges to some degree. People who rent, that property's not theirs. There's people who live in small spaces such as apartments, all this stuff, and they feel like it's not practical for them. Well, there's a lot of things you can still do. You can still get compact things, items. You can store things under your bed. You can figure out all kinds of storage places that you can look for, look around, right? Maybe you have some off-site places. Maybe you can learn bucket gardening or balcony gardening, solar charges still on the balconies there. You could do water bricks for water storage. I mean, there's things you can do. no matter where you are. You can prep anywhere, anytime, with any limited ability. It just takes a little bit of creativity. Again, do you want to or do you want to? And, again, if you're in an apartment complex, you know, now you've got a community of people with small spaces. Yeah, and I know there's a ton of risk with that. because if you read a lot of the doomsday novels out there, even though they're fictions, there's a lot of truth that could come out of those things. But I'm prepped, and I'm a friendly guy until I use everything I have, and now my family's starving, and now I'm not so friendly anymore. So I'm not going to be a good neighbor anymore. I'm going to come take it because I know you've got everything. So we have to use wisdom with that. as well. We have to definitely be careful with who we share stuff with, but there's no excuse. You know, you just lack the want to is really what it comes down to. So the seventh thing that we see is misunderstanding of what prepping is. What is it? You know, again, it kind of comes back to that. Hey, I'm, nothing's ever going to happen to me, that normalcy biased. I don't need to prep. I don't need to prepare. I'm not expecting an apocalypse. You know, they think they're preparing only for the end of the world, but it doesn't include just a job loss, storms, chain supply issues, power outages, political up, you know, uprisings, so many things that can happen. Just think about, What if there was a riot or a demonstration or a protest and they blockaded access to the store? Now you can't get to the store. Maybe they blockaded your neighborhood and you can't get out of your neighborhood. Oh, that'll never happen here, right? That'll never happen to me. No, not in my town. Yeah, well, we kind of go back to redefining what prepping is. Shift from the focus of it's not about the end of the world, everyday resilience, everyday resilience. You know, what happens if the car breaks down? You know, we talked about, and we had a caller chime in last week, which was great, by the way, that it was a psychiatrist or something, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but had a PhD and had all this education, nothing wrong with that, not knocking that, but then had a flat tire on the side of the road and didn't know how to change a tire. And the person that shared said, you know, the guy was there going, you know, I've got a doctorate in this stuff, but I don't know how to change my tire. There's a little bit of responsibility, in my opinion, that comes with owning your car, right? You don't have to be a master mechanic to You don't have to be like what John is, you know, or any of his, you know, shops that he represents on the radio on Saturdays. You know, these guys are experts, right? But being an owner of a vehicle, you should know how to change a tire. You know, one of the things I did with my three daughters was, yeah, we taught them how. Hey, Dad, my taillight's out. I said, all right, let's go out. Aren't you going to do it for me? No, I'm going to, I'm going to coach you through it. So you know how to do it. I'm not going to do it. And yeah, that sounds mean, but it's not mean it's, it's teaching them. It's teaching them. Right. So that they can change. They're not dependable on anybody. Hey, Mike, it's funny because some of my daughters, right. I've had, you know, boyfriends or whatever. And, uh, and they don't know how to do it and they got to go out and change it for them. And I'm like, sheesh, you know, I often say that my three girls are more manly than a lot of supposed men out there today. Not that they're manly, but anyway, I don't want to continue on that conversation because I don't think it's going to work out. But, you know, if you're going to have a home, you should know how to turn off the breakers, turn on the breakers. You should know how to reset breakers, owning an electrical company. we have that a lot. Hey, my power's out. Just check your breakers. Yeah, I did. And we go out there and it's like, yeah, your breaker's tripped. We tried to coach you through on the phone. You know, you kind of pushed back a little bit like, yeah, what do you think I'm stupid? Yes, of course I checked the breaker, but you didn't check the breaker. You didn't know how. And so we kind of coach them through that and show them how to do that. You should know where the main shutoff of your water's at. Do you know where it's at? If all of a sudden the faucet or Something breaks and you've got water pouring out of your bathtub or your toilet or your sink, do you know how to go shut off the main water before you do more damage? These are simple things that you should know, and that just becomes with the responsibility of owning a car, of owning a house, of owning some of these things. So being resilient. And also, too, like self-defense. People are like, oh, you're giving to violence because you're self-defense or you're preparing and this and that. Well, everybody is doing that because they buy car insurance or they buy home insurance. Oh, no, I'm doing that because the law requires me to. Okay, yeah, we've got those. Okay, but why do you buy car insurance? Because, you know, I hope that I never need it, but if something happens, I've got this insurance. You know, I don't get homeowner's insurance. And then say, hey, let's test the insurance and light my house on fire and see how well my insurance does. Or I got car insurance. Let's run my car into a tree so I can utilize my car insurance. Let's not go out and get in a fight because I know how to do self-defense when self-defense is just insurance. Hey, let's not, you know, just test the faith because I don't need it. Yeah, so prepping is like car insurance. You hope you never need it, but, man, you're sure glad when you do have it. And if you create this system, especially with food, that it becomes a living, rotating pantry, you become your own grocery store. You've heard of those be-your-own-bank things, right, where you're – whether it's a life insurance policy or an all-in-one mortgage from Kirk. We actually got one of those from Kirk from Take Aim there. And, you know, you become your own bank. And instead of going out and borrowing money and paying interest to the bank, you borrow money and you pay interest back to yourself. So same idea with the food and things like that. You become your own grocery store. I got to go to the grocery store. Okay, we go down to our pantry. Yeah, you're always going to need some things. But anyway, we'll move on. But the terms like readiness and home security and family protection, these are all different words from prepping that we use. And that's kind of where our Our little company comes into play with the prep to protect, and we kind of open-ended there. Yeah, I'm going to prep to protect against you fill in the blank. And speaking of that, you know, our summer gun classes are filling up fast. You know, everybody's concerned about the big change in requirements for CCW, which is interesting to me because we've been teaching these classes for a couple years, and it's like, oh, well, let's just turn in our syllabus of what we already teach. So we didn't have to really make too many adjustments. We were already teaching these things to begin with. And we teach from the perspective of everyday carry and self-defense. And it's a class like no other. We're not just going out there shooting paper. We're talking about de-escalation. We're talking about distances. We're talking about hey, the gun is the last resort. Most people think, I've got the gun. And it's like, yeah, you're not going to use that gun in most places. And if you are, you're probably going to be in pretty big trouble. Let's think of it this way. What if you were able to carry on an airplane and something were to happen? Am I going to be shooting my gun in an airplane? Probably not. Probably not a good idea. Not probably not. It's definitely not a good idea. So, yeah. redefine it, be prepped to protect against you filling the blank. All right, we've got a couple more that we'll pick up here after the break. 560-KLZ.
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Today we are talking about some of the responses, rejections, oppositions, if you will, to the whole idea of prepping and preparedness. First one we talked about was it'll never happen. Nothing's bad ever happened to me, so nothing will. The next one is the perceived cost. This is too expensive. The social stigma of I don't want people to think I'm crazy. the procrastination or this is overwhelming, so I'll do it later. It's too hard. Well, nothing ever gets done. Dependence on the system. I'm not too worried about it because the government or somebody else will bail me out. Limited space or mobility or age. Too old for this. Don't have enough room. Maybe I'm physically not able to do as much. Misunderstanding what prepping really is it's a it's a big deal of just the terminology and i know john have i and i've talked about that quite a bit just about hey we hate that term prepping we use it because that's what people are most familiar with but we really need to start redefining it and it's not doomsday prepper or the extreme that everybody thinks is all right so the next one i have is the faith faith-based fatalism, and I deal with this one quite a bit, actually. People say, well, if it's God's will, it's going to happen anyway. We know plenty about God's will, and, you know, do we just sit back and let it happen? You know, people that say that kind of stuff, I'm sorry, but the truth is that they haven't read their Bibles. They may have heard stories or they've got little clips, glimpses of things within the Bible, and they act like they're an expert. You know, it's the Dunning-Kruger effect. And the Dunning-Kruger effect, by the way, applies to all of this. And the Dunning-Kruger effect is this. It simply says that you get exposed to a little bit of knowledge about something, and all of a sudden you're an expert. This is, you know, big time with social media and the Internet and the amount of information going out there. Somebody reads a little bit of something, and then all of a sudden they're an expert. I'll give you an example. Last Saturday, yeah, we're crazy. We're crazy. We'll just accept it so you don't have to say it or think it or whatever, but we drove, you know, six hours, Grand Island, Nebraska. from Colorado here to pick up some chickens. People are like, what? There's chickens, like, down the road. Why would you drive to Nebraska? Well, we drove out there because there's a, on the rare side, a breed called the Bard-Holland chicken. The Bard-Holland chicken was developed around, you know, the 30s to 20s, And the problem was they had an issue with brown eggs. So at that time, most of the chickens were laying brown eggs, but they thought, hey, the white ones taste better. It was more of a status symbol to have white eggs instead of brown eggs. This is how stupid people are, which is interesting because now it's the opposite. Now people think, oh, I've got to have a brown egg because it's more healthier for you than a white egg. Anyway, so you see the point. So they created this breed, and it's an American breed, by the way, just because it has the name Holland in it. It has nothing to do with Holland, the country. It's created here in America. That would look like a barred rock, but instead of laying brown eggs, it laid white eggs. And it used to be really popular. People back in those times raised chickens for both eggs and meat. And so that's what they call a dual-purpose bird. And they're listed on the livestock registry for endangered species. So they're estimating less than 1,000 left in the world. But anyway, I thought that was kind of cool and kind of support bringing this breed back. And, you know, none of the commercial hatcheries have it, so you've got to go to these small, obscure farms that are breeding these chickens and get them. So we drove six hours to get these barred fallen birds. And I posted on the social media, and some guy commented, hey, that's a common bird. My neighbor's got three of them in his yard. Well, they look very similar to the barred rock. The barred rock has red earlobes and lays brown eggs. These guys have white earlobes. And if you don't know this, the earlobe will tell you the color of the egg that the chicken will lay. and these guys have white earlobes, and they will lay white eggs. So they are different, but Dunning-Kruger effect is this guy has a little bit of knowledge because he looked at a couple pictures or his neighbor has this, and he's like, those aren't rare. They're all over the place. Yeah, but he's an expert, right? He's an expert on chickens, and I'm far from being an expert on chickens, but I've definitely done my research to know what this breed is. So going back to number eight, the faith-based, Fatalism is, hey, you know, God's just going to take care of everything. I'm going to sit on the couch, and he's going to drop that ice cream. I'm going to sit on the couch, and he's going to give me a job. If God wanted me to have a job, he's going to give me a job. If God wanted me to have, you know, a pantry full of stuff, he'll stock it for me. And, guys, that's not like the Bible. The Bible says that, hey, Joseph, go prepare for seven years because there's going to be seven years of famine. Go prepare. Build an ark, Noah. You know, work on these things. Yes, God works. His things will happen. And it will happen when God has a will or a plan, such as, you know, revelation, the tribulation, or another conversation of if the church is going to participate in that or not. You can do whatever you want with that. You want to have a conversation with me about it, I'd be happy to have it with you. But, you know, we're going through it, so whatever. Well, you can go through it in one or two ways. You know, you can go through hard times, prepared or unprepared. Yeah, God's will, it's going to happen. You know, it's God's will that it's going to rain today. It's my choice whether to carry an umbrella or not. That's a perfect way to sum that up, right? So, yeah, it's going to happen. There's plenty of biblical examples of Proverbs 6, the ants. Proverbs 21, 20, Joseph, Noah, emphasizing preparedness is wise stewardship and not a lack of faith, right? Trust God, but, you know, make sure you tie up your camel. So faith prepares, fear panics. The Bible says fear not. Fear not. There's some people that have done, depending on the translation, 365-plus times of fear not in the Bible. And that's a fun way to say, hey, there's one for every day because God's got to remind us don't fear. All right, number nine. Number nine, the lack of community support. Nobody around me is into this. And I'll even say the lack maybe of family support. Nobody around me is into this. My family's not into it. Whatever. Whatever. People are more likely to act when they see other people in their community, in their network, in their family, taking it serious. Because isolation breeds apathy, which means, you know, no feeling. Yeah. No feeling. So, yeah, try to build that community. You know, look for people. Maybe look for, you know, local meetups or, you know, skills nights with different groups. There's communities within Facebook that you can join and be a part of or workshops. They're really out there. They're all over the place. You just got to look for them. Or if there's not one there, create one. You know, maybe within your church. Hey, great place to start. We do some of this stuff at our church. We call them Lunch and Learns. and so, you know, every so often after church, we'll be like, hey, we're going to have a lunch and learn. Everybody brings a, you know, a little dish to share, and we'll have a topic. We'll have usually one person to kind of lead it or teach it. We've done car maintenance. You know, we've done, you know, spring cleanup. We've done planting seeds for the springtime. We've done starter for sourdough. You know, a lot of people really like that. We've done pincers, you know, using things for medicine if you don't know what that is. I mean, the list goes on and on. We've done lots of first aid, CPR, you know, look for it. And then if you can't find that either, you know, maybe look for a friend or just bounce ideas off. And there's lots of things that you can even find online. So you can do this stuff remotely if you want to. So you're not alone out there, but it may take a little bit. of time to find those people who share that with you. And, you know, the stronger we are individually, the stronger we are as a community, right? In the Roman army, they had what was called the phalanx. And each Roman soldier had his shield, and he would link it up with the guy next to him on the left and the guy on the right and somebody above him, and they'd build a shield wall. And the group was all protected. But all you had to do was hold up your shield. In the book of Nehemiah, when they're rebuilding the wall to protect Jerusalem, your responsibility was just, hey, build that wall right in front of you. And the guy next to you was building his wall. And the guy next to him was building his wall. We don't have to take on the whole thing. We just have one thing. All right. And the last thing, the last thing is, People just have fear or denial. It's too scary to think about that. Man, I don't want to think about the world going to Hades in a handbasket. I don't want to think about what could happen. We watch these shows on TV and in the movie theaters, but I don't know. I don't know. It's too scary to think about that. So some people avoid prepping simply because it causes anxiety. Causes anxiety. And that can be a big problem. It's a big problem with a lot of things today. People don't want to talk about the reality of where we are. So how do you offer help for those people? Well, you keep encouraging. Don't be overwhelming. One step at a time. Be confident. Peace of mind. Family security. That's what it's all about. Right? The more prepared you are, the less anxious you should be. You're not going to think of everything. That's impossible. And let them know you can go at your own pace. It's going to be okay. Guys, as we end this program, do you want to or do you want to? And if you want to, take away all the excuses. Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can. All right, guys, John, we'll be back, and we'll talk to you guys next week. In the meantime, keep your eyes open, your ears open, and be ready.
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Join Dr. Scott Faulconer and his guests as they explore the often-overlooked influence of hormone health on our daily lives. From nuanced conversations between proactive healthcare methods to striking a balance between professional aspirations and family commitments, this episode navigates the importance of going beyond textbook health metrics and paying attention to what genuinely makes you thrive. Discover how hormone health intertwines with personal success and well-being in this must-listen session.
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It's hour three on Health and Wellness Wednesdays, 560 KLZ. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulconer filling in for John Rush. My two guests here in the studio, Jeremy Sova, one of my patients slash client, has been talking to me the last two hours about his medical epiphany and journey, the things that you've found important, without my help to start with things that are making you better anti-aging. And then we have John Flouting, my good friend who, uh, he and his brothers own revitalize there in Littleton. And he does a lot of the same things that I do. But, um, Charlie had a good point. I am not most of your primary care providers. I'm not your doctor. So the things that we're talking about are generalities. If, um, You can talk to your doctor, then please do it. If you can get your blood work or your biomarkers from your doctor, please do it. But if you're not satisfied, there are alternatives. There's not many of us out there, but there are a few of us. Just take that with a grain of salt that we're not giving legal advice and true medical advice for each and every one of you. You're all different. And with that disclaimer, in this last hour, we're going to be talking a little more about stem cells. And so if you hear that, what I do is the umbilical cord stem cells. That is an off label use. It's not that it's not been approved by the FDA. It has. But what we're going to be talking is off label use. So I don't need anybody's lawyer calling me. So with that, I want to start this third hour off Jeremy talking about hormone hormone replacement hormone health. You had your journey. So let's continue with your journey on hormone health.
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Great. Yeah, so I think it was about four years ago, I started to get some mirror pattern baldness in the crown area. And as vain as I am, I was looking at hair plugs and all kinds of different options. And Doc prescribed me on Propecia or Finasteride, and it kills the DHT hormone, keeps the hair from falling out. It doesn't grow back, but keeps more from falling out. So I started it and I realized that it absolutely destroyed my libido, my sex life. I went to the doc, told him, he's like, well, sorry, that's what happens. Nothing I can do. Like get used to the new normal if you want to keep your hair. But if you stop taking the Propecia, your hair is going to fall out even faster. So now I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. So as I do, I got into my research mode and did a lot of digging and found out that testosterone replacement therapy is a potential solution for libido issues. So I found a clinic similar to you, John, and started on, I think it was 200 milligrams per liter a week or 200 milliliters. I always get those measurements wrong. But essentially, you know, taking... You know, 0.3 units of testosterone cyprinate in the muscle every three and a half days to keep my levels normal. And after about a year, well, let me back up. After a couple of weeks, I noticed improvements in my male sexual health and libido. To a point that I was like, wow, let's continue this. And, you know, fast forward, I got my testosterone levels up. My free testosterone is somewhere around 30, 31. My total is around 1,200. And went past about 1,500. You know, I started, I think it was 470, which the endocrinologist said was normal and wouldn't start testosterone replacement therapy. So I went elsewhere. But long story short, now I've been on it for about four years regularly. It's been the single most effective game-changing protocol that I've done out of everything we've talked about so far. Hormone health is extremely important. Don't listen to somebody that says you're in the normal ranges. Go to somebody that wants you to feel better, not what's on the paper and how you feel. So long story short, it absolutely destroyed any issues I had with the finasteride. Here I am with a full head of hair. My sex life is great. It does come with issues of monitoring your red blood cells over time. And a lot of people out there on these websites and these message boards talk about donating blood if your hematocrit gets over 55 or your hemoglobin gets over 18 or 20. 18. Um, so what I did was I'm like, I'll be proactive, right? I'll just donate blood every, you know, three to six months and stay within those ranges and everything's great. And I can help donate, feel good. I cured some guys sickle cell anemia because I have a rare blood type. Well, what I didn't know until it was too late was that as I was doing those blood dumps, I was crashing my ferritin levels. which is an iron-based marker, which can lead to anemia if it gets too low. And to bring the ferritin levels back up to normal was a slog. It took about a year and a half taking ferrous sulfate, making sure you don't go past the hemoglobin and hematocrit numbers and get the ferritin up. So my disclaimer out there is I think testosterone placement therapy is amazing, especially if you're, you know, 30s, 40s, 50s plus. It will change your life and make you feel like you were in your teens and your 20s. But be cognizant about the need for phlebotomy or a blood dump or donation. And really make sure you're checking those ferritin markers ongoing. And as long as they're north of 40, you know, you're in a good spot. But that was one of the mistakes I made through learning on the fly. But outside of the ferritin, and John, you can talk more about it, but, you know, HRT, they call it hormone replacement therapy, is a game changer.
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Yeah, I mean, I think that, I mean, that was a great story. Well said. And, I mean, there's many things to kind of break down there. I mean, first with the Propecia it is common. It's, it's a well-known potential side effect of it that, you know, your libido could crash. But when you look at those studies, I mean, the men weren't on testosterone and they were, you know, I mean, they could have been two, 300, 400 and, you know, they're started on this, this DHT blocker. And then all of a sudden this well-known side effect happens, which it's not permanent. And we know it's not permanent, but, The underlying reason wasn't the... Because DHT... Blocking DHT for your scalp can be a good thing. DHT is also present down below. And so when you block DHT and it blocks it from the male genitalia, you will experience erection issues. And so... You know, the fix for that is, I mean, check in what their testosterone level is, you know, outside of that. So you can still get the benefits of the hair growth with it, but it's optimizing that T level. Now to, you know, comment on your story. I mean, that's very common. You know, the... The amount of guys that we actually see in our clinic, and I'm sure, you know, Dr. Scott's probably the same way, that are actually below, well, and every year it keeps getting lower. Oh, yeah. Right? Like it was 350, and then the low end went to 300, and some labs are 260 now. Yes. You know, and then I even saw one that the upper end was 700 as the top end range. And I'm like, really? Yeah. It's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. And that's just my personal opinions on an insurance thing. But the amount of people that you see that fall into that lower range, they're not the majority. And so most guys are like your situation to where they're in those mid-300s, 400s, 500s, maybe even mid-600s. But yet the key is are they symptomatic or not? Do they present with symptomatics that are linked to low testosterone? You know, aside from whatever the number is, that's just a number on a piece of paper. How does that compare to how you feel in your quality of life, right?
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And what's interesting is you don't know how bad you feel until you try the testosterone replacement therapy.
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Until you get optimized, yes.
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And you feel a lot better. Yep. You think, oh, I'm getting older, so this brain fog and this harder to get up in the morning.
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Because your body just acclimates every day over the years. Yeah, and you assume it's just aging, right?
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You're like, oh, this must be normal. I'm just getting older. And then you ignore the endocrinologist that tells you that you don't need it when you certainly do. Well, because they're the professionals.
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Right. Yeah.
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If you can see the air quotes here on radio professionals. And then you actually embark on the journey and you realize that you can feel incredible every day. You can have the mental acuity and clarity of, you know, the best athlete or the best business person.
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Absolutely.
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And again, you can overdo it. Right. But you find that sweet spot over time. And my advice is. Like, don't just, you know, try it for a week or a month or three, and maybe you get a little bit of back acne or, you know, something pops up. The body's adjusting to this new hormone profile and give it the time to do so. Because it took me about a year and a half to realize I'm all in, right? This is a life decision for the rest of my life. And it's one I'm very, very happy to stay on. So, yeah, to your point, like... you may not even know you're feeling that bad until you try what turns into a feeling amazing every day.
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And like we're saying, like find a clinic that actually specializes in it and maybe not these big box T clinics. Right. You know, I mean, we know what they're about, but ones that, that like yours and mine, that we're, We definitely look more into the overall health, the cardiovascular health, the brain health, because again, low T is a part of the puzzle, but it's not the whole puzzle, right? You can optimize, you can get their testosterone to 900, 1100. you know their free tea comes up and they're feeling great but things might still fell off and i mean we're talking about stressors in life work marriage kids um you know you may still have brain fog and oh it didn't fix this well it's not it's not magic but it helps and so you want to find somewhere that's all-encompassing and focuses on your overall health that being said i wanted to like you know kind of comment on on your phlebotomizing the blood donations and Because I do think there might be a lot of listeners right now that are on TRT that it's just part of their protocol because a lot of these clinics, they just have you donate as part of this is protocol. And then they don't ever have to deal with it. You're absolutely right on the whole ferritin. And, I mean, how many clinics actually check the iron studies and look at the ferritin from both ways? Are they getting iron deposition disease, which can lead to a whole slew of things? Or are they tanking their ferritin and all of a sudden they're tired now? And what's that clinic's response? Let's up the tea.
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Mm-hmm.
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Now we up the T, and the hemoglobin hematocrit, red blood cell count go through the roof again. Well, now we have to donate again. Instead of every 12 weeks, we're every eight weeks now, which is the quote-unquote safe minimum. Great if you want to drop your ferritin down to nothing. Yeah, mine hit nine. Well, yeah, and that is not great at all. And so it's like there's other ways to donate. combat that as i'm not saying blood donations are bad by any means i've done them throughout the years sometimes they're needed if you're getting them i typically like to think if you're getting more than twice a year maybe we should readjust something right something else may be going on yep and on that note we have to take a quick break but we'll be right back and ladies we haven't forgotten about you so we'll talk about your hormones next you're listening to dr scott filling in 560 klz
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You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush with two guests, Jeremy Sovo, my patient-slash-friend-slash-client there at the clinic, and John Flouting, who he and his brothers own Revitalize there in Littleton. And I promised you ladies that we would talk about you because we talked a lot about the men. But during the break, John, you were saying something, and I think a lot of ladies want their husbands to hear this. It was a come-to-Jesus meeting.
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with you and your wife and what you're doing you're working hard trying to earn a living and you missed something for your kids so yeah um it was a come to jesus moment in a sense and you know i think a lot of us no matter what you know we do for work no matter what our life's goals are you know, we can get wound up in this evolution of just, just drive for success. And again, that success is different for everybody, but, but this just goal of, you know, whether it be financial or, um, you know, what, again, whatever your goals might be, but you get caught up in it and, and it just keeps going and going and going because you may reach a milestone, but yet you feel the next one is, is just within reach and you keep going and you keep going and And then you look back and, you know, my boys are 12 and 14. And, you know, sometimes I need, you know, good old social media reminders or Google reminders to come up and tell me, oh, look back way back then. Your kids were much younger. And, you know, you just keep growing. And then you look back and you've missed out on a lot of these life events from them. Mom takes them to these things at school. Mom does this. Mom takes them to the dentist. My kid just had a dentist appointment today. And I'm sure they would want me to be there, but I'm just so hyper-focused that... and I'm not doing it on purpose, but I forget about these things. So my wife, you know, a couple of days ago, she was like, look, you know, the, the, the boys are only going to be young once. And every day that passes, that's another day gone that they're not going to be at home anymore. And you know, they, they don't realize what, what now, what dad, what I'm trying to do for our future, their future, that they don't understand that they only understand the value of dad's time with them.
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Right.
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And, and that one was a, that one was a tough one to, to grasp and to look myself in the eyes and be like, you're not wrong. So, you know, it was, it was, it was a tough moment.
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Yeah, so ladies, if you have to have that conversation with your husbands, it's not just the physical. Yes, we can fix a testosterone issue, things like that, but there is that emotional side to it. So guys, make sure you're taking time for your families because they are precious. God gave you that gift of your spouse and your children. And so, yes, optimize the things that we've been talking about, but don't forget and lose sight why you're doing the things that you should be doing.
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Great advice.
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Yeah, and you were talking, Jeremy, about Peter Attia's book.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, the book I mentioned earlier, which was kind of the holy grail to Medicine 3.0 that really kick-started a lot of the stuff that I'm doing now. And emotional health and stressors is a big portion. And I think the final chapter, he tells his own story about emotional health, and it's very heavy. I was actually on an airplane. I remember tearing up and people around me wondering what I was listening to. But apparently, there was one instance where he had three or four boys. And one of the younger ones, I think, was age one or two. I'm paraphrasing. It's been a while. But the child had gotten into distress and went into cardiac arrest back home when he was on a work conference, burning the midnight oil, getting four hours of sleep a night, saving lives, doing all the things that a doc would do. Um, and turned out that he was so entrenched in his work that he basically, you know, connected the wife with the local doctor and, you know, the boy was blue and they turned him back breathing and he was surviving. And in his mind, he's like, okay, well my son lived, right? Well, he stayed in New York another 10 days before going home to his family. Um, it's like, and again, like everything he was doing is extremely important, you know, but at the end of the day, like you can't lose sight of what's really important. And it's, it's those that support you every day, you know, and to your point, like my kids are, I got support you. Happy birthday, Maddie. You know, she's 19 today off to college in Arizona. And, you know, my son's, you know, he's a, you know, be a sophomore in high school off to college soon. And like, I already miss like her bedroom having somebody in it and soon it's going to be another bedroom.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And fortunately for me, I've been able to go on a hockey journey with my son across four countries and 12 different states. And it's been incredible. So I've had that road time with him since I decided to kind of step away from the cannabis thing. But I can't say it enough. Like that should be at the top of this protocol list of intelligent aging should be age with your children. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And do that journey with your spouse. So we also want to talk about cortisol because cortisol is both men and women. And women are under a lot of stress as well. Cortisol is a big killer. Jeremy, talk about cortisol.
SPEAKER 11 :
I didn't even know what it was. I thought it was like an ointment or something, you know, years ago. But I got on the hormone therapy and it was very successful. Hormone levels were coming up. Libido was great. But I just wasn't quite, something wasn't quite right. I was under a lot of stress at work. Major grind, you know, lawsuits and lawyers and P&Ls and investors and And, um, I, I'd read about cortisol being quote unquote, the stress hormone. So I looked into it and it's a real thing. So I, you know, at the time went to my primary care doc and asked them to put it on my next panel and it was through the roof. Right. And I was like, Oh, well, this makes a lot of sense. Right. So then I'm like, well, you know, the, you know, the type a nonstop, no off button guy that I am like, it took some work, right. To figure out how to, to manage stress and, you know, sleep is a big part of it. Right. Like you want to make sure, you know, you're getting your, your eight hours in your REM sleep, but being able to step away, right. Whether it's yoga or meditation or gym work, or, you know, I enjoy comedy shows or concerts and, Um, and it really, you know, people take emotional health for granted, right? We just assume we're supposed to do all these other things and we'll focus on ourselves later. Um, well, everything else falls into place once you get your emotional health and stressors in check. Um, so, you know, ladies definitely know what your cortisol levels are and, you know, and talk to the professionals to figure out how to get those in line. But, um, it's a lot easier than you think. It
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So that's a high cortisol. John, talk to us about low cortisol.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, you know, in general, you know, you can present with many symptoms from depression to weight gain to, you know, obesity. being hyper-focused and sleeping too much. So whether it's low cortisol or high cortisol, I think the overall kind of feeling here is that just knowing in general what your levels are with anything, whether it's your hormones and cortisol levels, you know, it allows us to at least know what kind of paths to go down. And I mean, you know, but again, talk to a professional, get those labs checked. I mean, there's plenty of places if they won't check your labs or won't check your cortisol levels. I mean, there's online ones that you can purchase these things yourselves.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So like I use ITC compounding pharmacy there in Castle Rock and they have kits because really saliva is the best. And you want to, if you're truly checking somebody's cortisol, you want to do it four times during the day.
SPEAKER 05 :
Like a 24 hour.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. As opposed to just one blood test. Blood's okay, but really saliva is the best. It does take quite a bit to fill a little tube with saliva. Do that four times. You're going to, Wish I hadn't recommended it, but it's the best to get an accurate picture of if you have adrenal fatigue. The adrenal glands are the glands that sit on top of your kidneys. They're also known as the suprarenal glands. They make a lot of the glucocorticoids and other steroid hormones. But one of the big things is cortisol, the stress hormone. And if it's too low, exactly like John said, you have problems. If it's too high, you have problems like Jeremy said. So you don't always need your doctor. You can go and get one of these kits. They'll mail it off. You'll get your results. And then you're going to have to have a provider tell you what it means. But you're intelligent people. You can look it up like Jeremy's done with a lot of his biomarkers and then say, hey, I think I've got a problem, doc. Yeah, with chat GPT and AI and Ask AI, like –
SPEAKER 11 :
You can get your answers. You can get beyond your answers. Like there's stuff that then takes you down another wormhole. And then all of a sudden your doctor's eyes are bouncing and his head's spinning. He's like, where'd you find that out? Right. Turns out to be right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. And ladies, if you think your hormones are off, you're probably right. I can't tell you in a day how many ladies I talk to and you're telling your primary care. Hey, I think there's something wrong. And, oh, you're too young. Or, no, it can't be. And they pat you on the head. And we check labs. Or they do check labs, the biomarkers. And they're like, oh, look, it says normal. Well, normal is not actually normal. Those labs, most of them are wrong, especially on hormones.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think we've already beat that horse to death. Those values are so wrong. And thyroid is another one. Yeah. Um, if you don't like the answer, seek somebody else who, who does this for a living and, um, can really give you some good guidance.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah. And if you don't like the answer and you feel like there is an issue and, you know, and it's not just like, Oh, it's me. I'm going crazy. But you, you are tired and fatigued all the time. You are doing the right thing and you're, you know, you, you've changed your, your diet and you're watching your, your calories and macros and, uh, you know, you, you, kicked up the exercise but yet the body composition isn't changing um or if you've ever been told you know this is one of my red flags if you've ever been told that you know you you know you're diagnosed with depression or anxiety i mean sure maybe but but why don't we do an in-depth hormone evaluation first yes 100 because that there's so many people that at least i have started on hormones whether it be you know optimizing thyroid and estrogens progesterone, testosterone. And all of a sudden they start talking to me about how to, well, how do I titrate off of my antidepressant? Right. And I know you've accounted that probably a million times, a million times. And, and, and it's like, well, it's because you were prematurely put on that antidepressant there. It's a knee jerk. Yes. It's a knee jerk reaction because it's so common that the symptoms are, well, we can't tell if It's a neurotransmitter issue, which are dopamine, serotonin levels. Or is it because your testosterone is low, and low testosterone can mimic the same thing. But it never gets checked, and especially in women. Yes. So of anything, of any people out there, the listeners, if you're a female, And, again, it doesn't matter what your age is. If you are constantly presenting with these symptoms, then find somewhere and get your hormones and, in particular, your testosterone level checked. Great segue.
SPEAKER 10 :
So we're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to talk about Jeremy's experience with his back pain and stem cells. So you're listening to Dr. Scott filling in for John Rush, 560-KLZ.
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You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner with two guests who have a lot of common sense, actually. Jeremy Sobo, my patient slash client, who's talking about his personal journey. And we'll get into the stem cells in your back. And then I have John Flouting, owner of Revitalize there in Littleton, who is like-minded and thinks outside of the box. So, Jeremy, we want to talk about your journey, your back and stem cells.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sure. So 1997, excuse me, in a wakeboarding accident back before you could come out of the boards, early technology. I broke my right femur in half in the middle of a lake up in Michigan. Disastrous injury. Held it from compounding. Ended up getting the metal rod in, bolted at the knee and at the hip. Had surgery to take it out a couple years later. Set me out of college golf. Moved to South Florida, got my game back. I was told that I would have back issues in my 40s. And I figured, well, it's 25 years down the road. Like, nah, we'll get there when we get there. Right on track, I think 39-ish, I blew out disc L5-S1, and I've had several herniations and a couple of microdiscectomy surgeries, and I was looking at a fusion, which I didn't want to do because it would have ruined my ability to do the things I love like ski and golf, etc., So I did a search. This is back in 2014, so 11 years ago. And I came across stem cells. Knew just enough to be dangerous, but ended up finding a guy, Dr. Scott Brandt out of ThriveMD in Edwards, Colorado. And I had the wife drive me out there, and I stayed in a hotel room. And he took stem cells out of my adipose fat with liposuction and then centrifuged them with platelet-rich plasma and took some stem cells out of the iliac crest of my bone marrow and mixed all that together. And he injected them under x-ray guidance into my L4, L5, and L5-S1 discs, which didn't have much disc tissue left under MRI at the time. Well, thank God I did that. because over the next 11 years, I kept growing more disc tissue, more hydration, more disc tissue, to the point that my discs in 2018, so three years later, were at the original height they were before any of the degeneration took place in the spine. Then I, you know, did something really crazy and went off a jump at Copper Mountain, went airborne, landed on the left side, blew out L4, L5 real bad. Paralysis, couldn't feel my left leg. The whole nerve was impinged. 72-hour waiting for insurance later, microdissectomy in Parker, you know, cleared it out. And now my disc height was compromised yet again because I was stupid. So now fast forward, you know, into the COVID years, a new technology came out called ViaDisc, which is like a cadaver disc tissue mixed with like a glue component. So again, went through, took out all the stem cells. Didn't know at the time I could bank them, but did the same thing over again and got back to the original disc height once again. And now I deal with a little herniation here and again, and maybe some injection intervention to help manage it. But I don't need a fusion. I skied 3 million vertical feet since this last ski season. Just played 90 holes of golf at Pebble Beach a couple of weeks ago. And my spine looks great. So now we're moving into umbilical cord type technology and the ability to bank those. So I can actually have my own little bank of hundreds of millions of stem cells that I can use to draw from and continue to put them in places like my elbow, my knee, my shoulder, my lower back. So I'm surprised by now that stem cells aren't wider used or covered by insurance. Cause I was told after five years, you know, here we are 11 years later and we're just scratching the surface. But I can tell you, there's a lot of people that have had one, two, three level fusions that wish they knew what I knew and what I went through. Um, cause it would have saved their lives. Cause these fusions, these people are still in pain. They have no mobility, you know, it's moving up the chain. It's getting worse. Um, So the ability to regenerate tissue or regenerate parts of the body that are compromised, it seems to me now that the sky is the limit with stem cells. And you're seeing some incredible stories too, Doc.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's exactly right. And we now know that, God bless you, that he could use the bone marrow and adipose derived I showed you in my office earlier today that the studies are out. Umbilical cord is far superior, so there's no reason to go through that painful procedure. If you want liposuction, do liposuction. But there's no reason to do bone marrow adipose derived stem cells when we can get them from the umbilical cord of a baby. They're more potent, the most potent, and the longest lasting. So exciting. And here's a crazy thing. This is a little tidbit for the listeners. If you know somebody who is pregnant and going to have a baby... Contact Cord for Life, Cord, F-O-R for Life, L-I-F-E, out of Orlando, Florida. And you can basically pay the fee for those cells to be banked. Even though it's not your baby, if the mom says, I'm just going to throw it in the trash can. Say, hey, do you mind if I pay the fee? So if you pay that fee, and it's somewhere around $3,000, then... Court for life, when you have a bad knee, a bad shoulder, a bad whatever. Now, I don't do spines. I do have my friends that do spines because I was never trained in spine. But I can do any other joint or I can do an IV infusion. You will get five chambers with five times the stem cells in them. And I only charge you 500 bucks. Whereas each time I give you, say, three vials, you're looking at close to 12,000. One time. You get five doses, and I only charge you to put them in your body.
SPEAKER 11 :
I remember in 2006 when my daughter was born, in 2010 when my son was born, both instances somebody approached me and asked me if I wanted to pay like two grand to save the umbilical cord, and I had no idea. But you're damn well sure my grandchildren are going to have them saved.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is liquid gold, folks. So even if you're not having a baby, if you have a grandchild, a daughter, somebody you know, and they're going to throw it in the trash can, Say, no, that is liquid gold. We'll pay the price. And that's a way to basically help your body because your body is going to be worn down. We've already talked about that. All the things that we've talked for the last two and a half hours, we can help repair or slow that process down. And stem cells is one of the best things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. A thousand percent.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, there's going to be a point in time in your life when you will need them and you're going to want to have them on hand. That's exactly right. And, you know, versus the alternative of surgeries and more scar tissue and, you know, but so I, I'm, I'm a big believer.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. So I know this was a short segment. We went a little long in the first couple of ones. When we come back for the last segment before we close out, a lot of you are saying, hey, this is great, but I'm not in Jeremy's boat. I can't afford to ski a million vertical feet and go to Pebble Beach and all this stuff. What are some of the things I can do for myself on a budget to be able to afford to start this journey? So when we come back, we'll finish out talking about how we can make this affordable and then some of the other gadgets that we have that are not – expensive that people can use in my clinic. So we'll be right back. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush.
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Welcome back, listeners, for the final segment with my two friends, Jeremy Sova and John Flouting. This is Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John. If you need to reach me at my clinic, it's 303-663-6990. John, how do they get a hold of you? Yeah, 720-361-2302. They're revitalizing Littleton. So Jeremy, you love, I'm going to put words in your mouth. You love my clinic. You love the things that we do. What are some of those cool gadgets that you really find exciting? Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
So I kind of started out, which I've done before, is with the IV hydration bags, right? And I found out, oh, you can get this Myers or this enhanced Myers. And then I learned you can drill down once you go all the way back to square one. Once you know your blood work and what you're deficient in, you can actually customize the IV infusions. I do them every two weeks, give or take. So I'm always flush with the right nutrients and the right hydration. So that's where I kind of found you. That's where I started. And then I started to pay attention to this machinery that's showing up in all the different rooms and these moving guys bringing stuff in. And as inquisitive as I am, I started asking your nurse practitioners and your EMTs about this stuff. So I found out that all the gadgets are really cool. You got hyperbaric oxygen therapy. They call it HBOT, which is great for generating tissue. It's great for traumatic brain injuries, kids playing sports, contact sports, like my son playing hockey. Um, and one that I've really focused on now weekly is called, uh, the acronym is Hockett stands for hypothermic ozone, carbonic acid, transdermal therapy. Well, I can't believe I got that right. Um, so essentially you go up to your neck in a sauna that kicks on with, um, some carbon dioxide and then it infuses with ozone. It gets you sweating. And there's certain programs mine I do for back pain since I got the compromised lumbar spine, um, And this machine in 30 minutes is absolutely incredible. The detoxification, the immune strengthening response. Since I started coming to your clinic, I haven't had so much as a sniffle. And I'm all these busy airplanes and everyone's getting sick around me. So what it's done for my immunity is unheard of. So I go into this Hockett sauna for 30 minutes once a week. And then I hop over to your cryo chamber, which helps kind of cool things down because the sonic can get pretty intense. And then I think you can explain it better, but the cryotherapy kind of helps things from bouncing around cellular-wise. And then I go into your red light therapy bed. These things are gaining popularity, and it's like 10 spectrum LED bulbs with different settings for different ailments. But essentially what it's doing is penetrating into the organs and helping your mitochondrial health. So the IV, the hocket, the cryo, and the red light bed has become routine for me. I'm in the red light bed four days a week with the cryo, the hocket once a week, or as needed, say, you go on vacation and you're indulging in too much alcohol, you know, get home, get in the hocket sauna, detox. And you're off to the races. And I've also done the PEMF therapy intermittently too, which I'm finding some advantages to. And even swapping the blood and adding some ozone to it. And I haven't even scratched the surface in everything you're doing over there. I'm learning each time that I show up that there's another door to unlock or another box to check. And you just filter it down to stuff that works for you. And actually what I found out is it's extremely affordable. You buy packages of the Cryo and the Red Light or the So Many Hockets or the So Many Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy Treatments. Once you realize what it's doing for you and how you feel, all of a sudden you're like, well, this is just like a car payment. But you only have one car. It's the most important car that you can drive. It's your body. So before you know it, you're like, oh, I can... I can budget $600 or $700 a month to make sure that I'm doing these things regularly that keep me on top of my health span game. And I just want to see how far I can drive it because I haven't been sick in like nine months. Usually I get these every three or four months, this rhinovirus or this norovirus that knocks you down for a couple of days. The family's all getting it. I'm not. Right? So is it chance? Is it coincidence? Stay tuned. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, John, I'm sure you have a lot of patients who say, well, this is kind of expensive what you guys are doing. And then they wait. They have their regular insurance plan. They get patted on the head by their doc. And then they have a major event where they crash and burn. And now it's really expensive. So... It's like the old – I think it was Midas, right? You can pay me now or you can pay me later. Well, while your body is still doing okay, we can help optimize you, intelligent aging, keep you from having things that will crash and burn. Like one of the things that I recommend is a whole body MRI. Now, I don't have any stock in the MRI company, but – You want to know if you have a tumor in your brain, in your chest, abdomen, or pelvis when it's tiny. For $650 and no radiation, why wouldn't you do that? Your health, your life is worth that. Unless you're absolutely so claustrophobic that we have to knock you out, go get a scan for your family, for your kids, and make sure you don't have something growing in your body that's going to kill you in two years' time.
SPEAKER 11 :
In my experience, if you're not doing the annual, some people pronounce it gallery, some pronounce it glary, but a blood marker cancer screening test paired with a full-body MRI once a year for both, especially after age 35 you're crazy right for a thousand dollars a year you can know it's all about early detection i wasn't saying detection before it's too we got cancer in my family right we caught it at stage zero because of all this early detection intervention um most people don't want to go to the doctor they want to know you catch it early it's 2025 they can fix it oh yeah put you into remission so check the blood check the imaging no doubt yep yep agree so
SPEAKER 10 :
What more advice do you have, John, for your patients who are still going, I don't know about that or anything to move them off of zero?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, a lot of times I'll just focus on, I mean, really the importance of it, you know, just try to drive home the importance of it and. You know, everything that you just said, you know, why wouldn't you want to know versus, you know, before it's too late? I mean, you can get down into the finances of it. You know, a lot of the things of yours, you know, like the cool toys you have. I don't necessarily have all those cool toys, so I don't really have anything to add there, but it would be nice. We've been looking into some things like that, but yeah. Um, not everybody has to buy a package, you know, starting small can be, you know, the best thing for them because at least without having to go and say, I have to drop three grand for this, this package. and do these five sessions or six sessions, start with one, see how you like it. And, you know, like you're saying, detoxifying. And if you start noticing and seeing these benefits, I think it sells itself in the, in the long run. And, you know, people will, I mean, they know what their financial situation is, so they will take the time. And if it, If they perceive that it's valuable to them, they will find a way to use those services from their own.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's ironic. Oftentimes, they'll be paying all this money for supplements they're doing nothing for. They don't get their blood work checked. They're like, oh, I'm supposed to take vitamin D3 every day, which is good, right? But what if your vitamin D3 level is 77 and you're spending money on supplements you don't need? That's a cheap one. There's other examples. But once you know all the answers, focus the financial firepower on the stuff that makes a difference, stuff that makes you feel better, stuff that lets you age healthier.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, how many people waste hundreds of dollars a month just on coffee? Oh, yeah. Right. When, number one, if you can't live without your coffee, make it at home.
SPEAKER 11 :
God forbid my friends are going to hate me for saying this, but alcohol. How much money do they spend on alcohol? And it's the only thing that we haven't talked about yet that basically negates everything that we have talked about.
SPEAKER 05 :
Going out to eat. I mean, all of these things, there's many, many different ways that you can. But there's a lot of ways where you can hone in on your spending and use it appropriately for your health.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, don't end up Joe Biden magically have a stage four cancer where – Metastasize. Metastasize to your bone.
SPEAKER 11 :
His doctor, when he was 72 years old, deciding not to continue PSAs, should be stripped of his medical license. That's the easiest thing to test for. All of us are going to have some form of it as we get older. To stop the PSA 10 years earlier, to me, doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER 10 :
It makes no sense unless you're an insurance company and you don't want to pay for it. Yes. Right? That's the only way it makes sense.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or you don't want the news to leak out that the PSA is elevated.
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But that's the whole point behind doing these screening tests is you want to stay young and healthy as long as possible. Prostate cancer is very treatable. Yes. So why not invest in yourself and say, sorry, doc, I don't buy that. I'm going to find somebody who will do it. Or I think there's a company called Any Lab Test Now. Yeah. You can go to there and say, I want my PSA and have it checked. Yep. So, well, three hours we just burned through. Thank you, Jeremy, for being my guest. John, thanks for joining us. Again, folks, if you need to contact me, 303-663-6990 or 560-KLZ, Rush to Reason. You can listen to this in about an hour. Dr. Scott Faulkner signing off.
This episode takes listeners on a journey through some of the most absurd and fascinating news stories. We highlight the ongoing battles between Harvard and the Trump administration, delve into the unique narratives spun from Florida's notorious news cycles, and consider the implications of diversity in political appointments. It's a thought-provoking look at how these issues intersect with everyday American life.
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That's right. It's time for Florida Man. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. First, Florida Man is Olivier Ryu, who is a 7'9 Florida basketball player for the Florida Gators. He didn't actually play this season, even though they won the championship. He was redshirted because he's developing some of the skills that might be lacking fundamentally in a guy that's 7'9 inches tall. But they expect him to be very good next year for that team. He met President Trump. Florida man in the White House, seven foot nine, hanging out and having a conversation. Here's how Trump reacted to the giant human that stood next to him for a sec.
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And you're a beautiful looking guy. Yeah, it's really today.
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What a big advantage. That's going to be in life. Trump is not short and his son is not short. And still, Olivier Rieu is gigantic. He's huge. He's actually the kind of dude who can cut down the championship nets without getting on the ladder at all, which is something you might have seen after Florida won the national championship. If you were watching, you're like, who's that giant dude? They weren't playing. That's that's this guy out of Canada who is hopefully going to be good, but at least going to be ridiculous to see regardless for that school. All right. Other things out there as far as Florida man stories go. A Florida man was accused of setting fire to a strip club and throwing a urine filled bottle at a police officer. This is the kind of story that only comes out of Florida. It actually is coming out of Tampa. The Pink Pony Showgirls Strip Club in Tampa had a crazy thing happen at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday. You feel like anybody who's hanging out at Pink Pony Showgirls at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday is the kind of person that might make certain life decisions. This guy's name is Arvin. He's 29 years old. He did, as I said, set fire to the building because he was upset at an experience he had inside the club, and he then started to throw empty bottles that he had urinated in at officers as they were trying to arrest him for being an insane, horrible, terrible person who does horrible, terrible things and makes all the other people that were at Pink Pony Showgirls at 5 a.m. upset. I don't know how many people that is, and I don't know what the plan is to, you know, respond to it, but I feel like this isn't over. I feel like more is coming out of this story, and none of it's going to be good, and all of it's going to be terrible. There's a simple rule that nothing good happens after, like, 2 a.m., and it's usually true, and I feel it's especially true in Tampa on a Wednesday. Another story out there, one last one for a Florida man. A Florida woman actually struck a man in a MAGA hat at a Largo Park before battering an officer. Sometimes women seem to think that the rules don't apply to them. I guess Laura Elizabeth Garrett, who's 33, thought she was allowed to get mad at a 72-year-old dude in a MAGA hat. And so after a confrontation and Laura demanding that he think what she thinks, no matter what it is they were talking about, I'm sure it was a lot of stuff. She hit him and she attacked him. And that's going to cause some issues. And then when the police got there, she also attacked them, which is probably going to compound the situation. It will be unsurprising to many people. But Laura has blue hair. entirely blue hair that looks sort of ridiculous. I don't know that she went the expensive route in getting it dyed that color, but she's also someone who's obviously very much of a certain side of the political aisle, which is not common in Florida, by the way. I feel like Laura lives her life fighting with a lot of people a lot of the time. I lived in Florida for a few months. I had planned to live there longer, but I lived there for a few months. And then eventually I moved to Texas in Houston, where I am now. And I remember one of the first things I saw when I got there was a dude shirtless, driving a motorcycle with a Trump flag attached to the back of it, just waving in the wind. And that dude was feeling good about himself. And I think it was like 2 or 3 a.m. since I was driving from somewhere else when we were relocating to Florida for a bit, which is a story for another day. But I remember seeing that and thinking to myself, yeah, I'm in Florida. I'm in the place that Dana talks about a lot on the radio. And I wasn't sad about it. Laura, this person in this story, probably is. Quick break. A lot more. Greg Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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All right, let's talk about something that's causing a rift and even some pushback from his own side of the political aisle, President Trump's fight with Harvard. This is the latest move. A DHS letter from Kristi Noem to Harvard says that they're no longer going to be able to have foreign students. In fact, students that are currently there with F or J visas are going to have to transfer to another school to keep the visa or the visas being taken away. How is the Trump administration validating, or at least how are they claiming that it's valid, that they're going to do this? They said the campus is unsafe. And this part I easily agree with. The Trump administration says that Harvard has allowed for a very anti-Semitic, very anti-Israel sentiment to exist on their campus, that certain students who come from other countries enhance racism. that problem. And this is probably the most important caveat of it. Harvard has been absolutely unwilling to work with the Trump administration and some of its requests, demands, whatever you want to call them, to gain more information about that. The Trump administration, this government they want, DHS, information about what students are coming, what countries they're coming from. They go into Harvard and more background information about it. And Harvard is unwilling to give that information until, say, it would be too late and people are here in this country. And the United States wants to stop that. Now, look, I get every objection to this as like this is too far. This is trying to act like a dictator. I understand those or saying that, you know, penalizing certain students or whatever it might be. But here's the part that I find good or uniquely interesting about stories like this. Trump is absolutely willing to make someone the demonstration of why you should follow the rules so that everyone else behaves differently. And Harvard is trying to stand up against him for whatever political or, you know, I guess, optic win they think they're getting. But Harvard doesn't get as many federal dollars if it decides to fight the federal government. That's simply true. It doesn't mean that the United States is shutting Harvard down. Of course, it's not doing that. And it doesn't mean that Harvard can't recover the money and funds and all the things that are being taken away from them by the federal government some other way. And it's not even a huge part of the money that exists in that university anyway. But this is just showing them the extent of power that the U.S. government has. And essentially, all of this goes away if Harvard starts playing ball as far as the DEI initiatives go, as far as any of this stuff. But they want to stand firm. They want to stand tall and say, we can resist. We can, you know, say no to you. And this is the byproduct of doing that within the rules that exist in this country. It's not going to go further. No one's breaking any laws, though, in deciding to change things this way or that way and couching them. And I'm sure that'll be challenged in court as to whether or not what I just said is actually factually true. And we'll find out if someone decides it somehow isn't. But nonetheless, and this is the thing I do support. The idea that if you want to mooch off of our government in some way, shape, or form, and you wind up getting kicked in the teeth for it, especially if you're bragging about doing it, that it kind of sounds like it's a self-inflicted wound. Even if the way they're kicking you in the teeth is a way I wouldn't personally do it. I don't like government taking control of things that it shouldn't have control of. But again, it's not really totally doing that. All right, let's play some audio. This is a CNN interview. This is a Harvard professor who melts down over the outrageous, awful, authoritarian decision by the Trump administration. Well, this same guy and people just like him, people who work at that school, would love to be invited on to television to brag about the ways that they're fighting the Trump administration. They'd love that. They want the publicity of that. They want to be the tallest person in the room of short people saying, look at me, look at me, I'm great, because I'm fighting back. And sometimes when you fight back, the bully punches harder.
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this decision that Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students and existing foreign students have to transfer or lose their legal status. What's your reaction to this?
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I think it's awful and it's outrageous. It's another pattern of the Trump administration taking authoritarian actions. In the United States, the president does not have the power to punish people, target people for punishment because he doesn't like their politics. And he's targeting Harvard because he thinks he politically disagrees with them. It's a political vendetta. And he's doing this on the back of students who were admitted to Harvard from around the world for their merit, for things that they accomplished in life.
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Here's what's amazing about this being a thing that people are saying, because on its face, I agree again that you shouldn't try to enforce your will by any means necessary. However, they're literally talking about the guy who was almost sent to jail in New York for a case that absolutely wasn't a felony, has never been tried as a felony before. A business, you know, accounting error, if that's what the Trump companies would say it was. And if New York says it's something else that got inflated from typically, you know, a misdemeanor charge to a felony without the explanation of what it was to try to throw the political opponent of Biden into prison. so that he couldn't run, and the only case that actually got that far. So politicizing and fighting and showing strength by using any sort of loophole you can find is absolutely something that the left constantly does, that Harvard, I'm sure, does all the time. They find a way to maximize every federal dollar they get, even when they don't need all the federal dollars. even when they'd be just fine without them. And a lot of organizations do it, and a lot of organizations feel they're smart for doing it. But when you depend on that, when you use those sort of things, you can also stand up in the middle of the room and say, by the way, I hate you. Now give me more money. It usually winds up being a thing that causes conflict. And so, again, I know that Harvard's being made an example of, and I know that Trump is trying to tell the entire United States, play by our rules, especially our DEI rules, which I firmly believe in. I think he's absolutely right in trying to get rid of DEI.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right. It's time for the Quick Five on the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio. Two great ways to stay connected to her and everything going on with this show. First, this is kind of ridiculous. ABC News, their news boss, has told The View to tone down the Trump bashing. Guess what? It's not good for the ratings. Unsurprising. This has continued to happen. And actually, what's also hilarious is that it's May of 2025. And that's when news of this story gets out. Not, I don't know, when Trump wins reelection by also winning the popular vote. Something people thought he couldn't do. You feel like at some point the decision makers would be like, you know what? We can just at least skip some of these topics. Just not talk about them instead of continuing to make most of our audience or some of our audience mad. Because I doubt much of that audience that cares would even be left at this point. But nonetheless, they're continuing to try to tell them to rein it in. That story is interesting out there in the world. Also, revolutionary new contacts that are being created in China. That would allow you to basically have night vision without ridiculous goggles on your face. That's another thing out there in the world. It sounds kind of intense. To be honest, if everybody had night vision, I don't know if it also would ruin your day vision. If someone just popped a light on, would you have to rip the contacts out of your eyes to see again? I'm not sure. But this seems rough. This seems to be something that's not going to be invented for any sort of good reason. It sounds like it's invented for ninjas or some other thing like that. I don't mean to say that, but my brain couldn't help me from saying that. That's where it went, and darn it, I'm okay with it. Another story out there that I thought was amazing. A guy graduated from the University of Buffalo in New York with a baby in his hands. He asked before, and I'll play some audio of him talking about it, if he could bring his infant son with him. And his infant son was dressed up in his own graduation gown. So both people matching outfits walk across the stage to accept a diploma. But here's the ridiculous part. He was being slowly chased by a police officer because the day of the event, the venue tried to not let him carry his baby onto the stage, citing some sort of, you know, safety concern. Stupid rules enforced by stupid people who seem angry is something I hate in society. And it seems to have plagued this whole situation here.
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I've asked last semester if I could walk with my baby in commencement prep session. And they were like, yeah, it's okay. No one's going to tell you no. But they said it was a safety hazard. They don't want the baby on stage. I won't walk then. And I ran. That's what I did. I promised him I'm going to walk with him on the stage or run with him on the stage. I have nothing against UB. I love UB. I graduated from UB. I'm doing my master's right now at UB. It's a great college.
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He got a standing ovation from the audience when he walked across the stage with his baby in a matching gown, graduation gown. So, of course, that made sense. And some moron who's like, nah, the rules apply here. It's too dangerous. This baby might not make it across the stage is someone ruining things. And you know these people in your life. They're angry. They're upset. They're, you know, horrible to be around. And they spread that misery in whatever way they can, mostly by, if they have the power, enforcing stupid rules at stupid moments. They definitely exist. And I get so fed up with these people and even trying to deal with them a little bit. any sort of conversation with them because it's an absolute nightmare. All right, one last thing. You can tell I'm uniquely mad about that. One last thing that I thought was interesting out there. Jennifer Lopez is being sued for copyright cases involving photos of her So essentially, she put up photos of herself on social media that she didn't take. It is her, and she is like wandering around. And someone else who took them is like, how dare you use my photo of you? This would be the weirdest thing to deal with in the world of being a celebrity. Because no matter how much I understand, the law would allow someone to sue for this. It would feel real stupid if I was the person that was putting up photos of me. And someone was like, how dare you use that photo of you that I took? I would be like, come on, man, it's me. If I don't exist, there is no photo. So again, I'm not saying she's right to be mad, but I'd be mad too. All right, quick break. A lot more. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show. The mayor in Chicago, his name is Brandon Johnson, has been viral multiple times over the last few days for crazy stuff he is saying. Mostly because he seems proud that he hired a bunch of people based on their race. He hired a bunch of people into this administration, the one currently running Chicago, because they're black and he's a black man too. And so now that he's getting in trouble for that, even though he bragged about it as he was doing it. He's upset. He's like, how dare the Trump administration comes after me because they also disagree with me. They also, you know, politically don't like me and find something that I actually did wrong and try to hold me accountable for the thing I did wrong. Let me play a little bit of Brandon Johnson's audio. But this is amazing.
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You know, as far as, you know, the president's animus towards Women, people of color, working people. We have always known who he has been. This is not a surprise. He's a monster. Period. End of statement. We have the most diverse administration in the history of Chicago. And he is threatened by that. You can tell when someone is fearful is because they act out. We have a president that is screaming and having tantrums right now because we have an administration that reflects the city of Chicago, but he would much rather have administrations that reflect the country club.
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It is ridiculous. Every part of this is ridiculous. My favorite part is when he says that someone who behaves at all is someone acting out because they're afraid. So that means anyone who takes any action for anything is afraid. And that's why they're behaving the way they're behaving. Even say like a cop who's stopping someone from killing someone else. That cop was terrified. That's why he did what he did. And that cop might actually be scared. But nonetheless, that's not why you take the action. uh... sometimes you take action because people are doing things that are bad and you want them not to do the bad things anymore and by the way when he says that his current administration reflects the population of chicago oftentimes an excuse used by people to say they do things the way they do them The truth is that the majority of people that live in Chicago are actually white. About 36 percent of Chicago is white people. Twenty nine percent is black. Seven percent is Asian. Point one percent is Native American, et cetera, et cetera. There's other races. A lot of people who describe themselves as Hispanic might also describe themselves as white, by the way. So significant population and diversity. They're not exactly reflected. in the Brandon Johnson administration. And so here's what's so funny about all the virtue signaling and all the ridiculousness of these sort of conversations. They don't have to exist. And what I mean by this, and I'm not trying to help the bad guys do their bad stuff better. Politicians need the political win of hiring people that don't look like me, a white guy. They desperately want it because if they didn't tout it, if they didn't brag about it, if they didn't celebrate it, they could do it and no one could object to it. If they told us everyone they hired got their jobs solely based on merit, I'd have nothing to be upset about. Now, I could be suspicious that that's not true and I could talk about it in a different way. But the fact that they admit it and they admit it because they know that it's politically advantageous to them with their voters, that they want voting for them is the thing that causes the problem. Because when you use simple logic, you understand easily it's not a good policy. You shouldn't hire anyone based on their race or their sex. That's not why they should get a job. They should get a job because they're good at something. And anyone who wants to yell at a radio or me or anyone else saying that, how dare you? If that's true, then the people that have these jobs won't get them. Well, then they don't deserve them. If they can't get a job based on merit, they shouldn't get a job based on something else. And if you think they're not getting evaluated fairly, we can have that discussion by proving it, not just saying that you think it exists. You have to prove that it's true, which means that whoever gets the job, you have to demonstrate how they're not as qualified as someone who didn't get the job. And then we can do this on a case-by-case basis, and we can figure it all out. But anyway, I'll stop ranting about this. I just think it's ridiculous that this is the kind of conversation we have in society so much. And it emboldened so many people on a certain side of the political aisle to say things that are like evidently racist. I know people that will look at me and say they hate white dudes to my face. And like, I can't fathom saying that to someone else to look at them and who they are and whatever their race, sex, anything is and be like, hey, I hate everybody that looks like you. And yet people can do it to me, to my face and not worry about any ramifications from it.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio, two great ways to stay connected with her and the show on X, on Twitter. Do that every single day. Check it out and everything going on there. And Producer Steven putting up a lot of awesome stuff. All right, let's do this. First, the back and forth between NBC News and the White House press secretary, Caroline Leavitt, is fantastic. She's very good at this job. I'm going to be honest about that. I don't think that's because she's on a certain side of the political aisle that I happen to be a fan of. I think it's because of the way you react when people challenge you and they're wrong. When you have someone who challenges you and you have to lie, you have to figure out a really good way to not sound like you're lying or avoiding the question. The last White House press secretaries we've had were really bad at that part. They essentially sounded like they were avoiding or, I'll get back to you, I'll find more information out. Being well prepared and being able to combat people who want to convince the United States that what you're saying isn't true, even when it definitively is,
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uh absolutely are better at this gig carolyn levitt for sure is one of them here is some audio of her back and forth with nbc news at a white house press conference just yesterday sure the president showed a video that he said showed more than a thousand burial sites of white south africans and he said were murdered we know that that was not true and that the video wasn't doing that so i wonder why did the president choose to show that it's not true the video was showing a burial site it is unsubstantiated that that's the case no it's
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It is true that that video showed the crosses that represent... The video showed images of crosses in South Africa about white farmers who have been killed and politically persecuted because of the color of their skin. And those crosses are representing their lives. Those crosses are representing their lives and the fact that they are now dead and their government did nothing about it.
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Look, the topic is horrible. No part of me is laughing because of the horribleness of the conversation. The thing that I'm laughing about is how ridiculous the reporter is starting to sound by trying to argue this with the White House press secretary. And it's about to get slam dunk version of what you're saying and what you're objecting to has been proven to be wrong. And one of your colleagues in the room An organization that certainly is not right-leaning even remotely has said that what we showed is real, even as you claim to say it's false or unsubstantiated or some ridiculous thing.
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Are you disputing that there's no... I'm disputing the fact that the video showed what the president claimed it showed because it did not show that. But even more, what I'm asking you is who at the White House... No, it didn't show that.
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It showed white crosses representing people who have perished because of racial persecution.
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the videos that the president shows, and what protocols are in place when there's unsubstantiated information being put out for the world and world leaders to show?
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Yamiche, what's unsubstantiated about the video? The video shows crosses that represent the dead bodies of people who were racially persecuted by their government. In fact, the Associated Press, of all places, has a picture of that very monument, and the caption from the Associated Press is, each cross marks a white farmer who has been killed in a farm murder. So it is substantiated, but it's not just by that.
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That's incredible, by the way, that back and forth. It's incredible. And then you get further, further and down to the minute details in which the reporter is trying to claim that the whole thing is a lie while not explaining how she's trying to say that until the very end of all this pushback. She's like, well, it's not literally a burial site. People's bodies aren't actually under the crosses, even if they represent the exact number of people who deserve to have a burial site with their, you know, cross with their remembrance for their families, you know, demonstrated to the rest of the world is something that's bad that's happening that we should want to happen zero times. in our society or in the world. It's crazy. But honestly, this is a slam dunk by the White House press secretary. And as I said, I think she's uniquely good at this job. I did think that other press secretaries that Trump chose were good at this job. Here's another one.
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In other news, the Department of Homeland Security conducted a deportation flight from Texas to remove vicious, illegal criminals in the United States. All of these individuals were sent, or are trying to be sent, to a third country. And President Trump promised to get vicious, illegal alien murderers, rapists, and pedophiles like these out of our country, and he is delivering, trying to deliver, on this promise. But no matter how upset this makes Democrats, we will continue to deport these monsters to keep Americans safe. And here are the heinous individuals.
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Okay, honestly, it's going to make me real depressed just before the holiday to go through all that. So I'm not going to play. I could play it, I guess, if you want the context of it. No, I don't want to play it. This weekend is a holiday weekend. But there are bad. They do bad things, the people that got removed from this country. My favorite part of that audio is, though, no matter how upset this makes Democrats, we will continue to deport these monsters to keep America safe because that's something we should be doing. And that's something that shouldn't be an argument. between sides of the political aisle. All right, let's move on. Nuclear power is coming back, baby. President Trump is going to sign an executive order to remove restrictions to boost that industry. Stocks have rallied within the nuclear power world because of Trump signaling a willingness to benefit and not harm. That industry is every single one of these decisions gets made, whether it's not trying to put red tape all over oil and gas, something that Biden did, or now this nuclear energy and embracing it. What we're seeing is energy prices here in the United States going way down, gas prices going down and stuff being awesome for all of us. Which is interesting, right? Because we're often told when the Democratic politician is in office with the policies that are hurting the industry of energy, we're told that they couldn't possibly affect the cost of energy, that it's not within the powers of the president to do that. And then when Trump gets into office and gas prices are at the lowest price they've been for Memorial Day weekend in 20 plus years, you say to yourself, How is this possible if you claim the other thing isn't? How is this guy actually impacting the prices? And it's plans like this. It's stuff like this in which we're going to pay less and less and less in energy as we keep creating it here. And I'll say one thing as a millennial who was raised at a time when schools taught you about global warming and all that stuff. And this is my best point to anyone that's up in arms about this is going to ruin the world we live in as a reaction to Trump's nuclear power policies. If we don't enhance our production of energy, other places in the world will. They always will, especially since some of this energy is provided from one place to another place. All kinds of different ways that that's done. If we don't embrace energy, we don't fix the world. And even if, say, there's not some level of what we stop doing, someone else picks up doing, there's still no impact on society as a whole, according to all these scientists who say all the terrible things they say, if just the United States makes decisions and no one else in the world does. So if we're alone in how we behave, we have zero ability to do any of the things that people claim they're trying to do when they take over these industries. So all of that is just out the door when people discuss this. We pretend as though if the USA has less nuclear power, somehow all the people that are saying, you know, global warming is upon us are satisfied. They're like, oh, no, things are great now. which is not at all what they say. I don't know if everyone turned off every version of power and we went back to candlelight at night if the fearmonger people in the world of the scientific community that says that would shut up. I feel like they'd keep talking. They'd be like, well, you don't know. The candles are now the problem. It seems like they just want us to have pitch black. all the time. But anyway, again, the fact that more energy is going to be embraced means, at least on the simplistic level, things are going to be less expensive for you and me, and that's awesome. All right, one last thing I want to play, and then we'll take a break. This is a back and forth between Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and CNN, Caitlin Collins, about why Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says you should be skeptical of him And, you know, skeptical of his medical advice and how awesome it is to hear someone in a position like his saying that, because oftentimes when you have a fancy doctor as the secretary of health and human services, they act as though their opinion is the only opinion in the room that ever has mattered and will ever matter. And to have someone have such a different approach to that discussion is awesome. But even more so as this back and forth becomes predictable, how Robert F. Kennedy responds to it is truly amazing. Here we go.
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You said that people should not take your medical advice. Is that your position?
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Yeah, absolutely. People should not be taking medical advice. I'm somebody who is not a physician, but they should and they should also be skeptical about any medical advice. They need to do their own research. You know, you're a mom. If you're a mom, you do your own research on your baby carriage, on your baby bottles, on your baby formula.
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They don't have medical degrees, obviously, if you're a mom and you're looking at what science has been tested.
SPEAKER 28 :
Let me break this down the way that Caitlin Collins wants to say it. They're all idiots. how dare you say that anyone who's is complete moron i can look into uh... information and figure things out for themselves that's their position all the time on these topics is that you're too stupid to do anything said they did they trust their doctors and their pediatrician what you know one of the responsibility of living in a democracy where where
SPEAKER 21 :
Physicians and every sort of expert are subject to all kinds of biases. One of the responsibilities of living in a democracy is to do your own research and to make up your own mind.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that's your message to moms or to anyone is to do your own research.
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I would say be skeptical of authority. My father told me that when I was a young kid. People in authority lie. And we've seen a lot of that in our country. And people in the media lie. And people need to make their own judgments and be skeptical and maintain their capacity for critical thinking. And that was shut down during COVID. And the media was complicit in that.
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Disagree on that last part.
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Ridiculous. Ridiculous that she had to get that shot in where she disagrees that the media did a whole bunch of horrible things during COVID. But just excellent. Excellent. Everything that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said there at the end and how people in authority obviously lie. And if you behave as if they don't, they'll just lie to you more and more and more. All right. We'll take a break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five that's right it's time for the quick five on the dana show uh my name is craig collins filling in d lash dana lash radio two great ways to stay connected to her and everything going on with this show uh first this is kind of ridiculous abc news their news boss has told the view to tone down the trump bashing Guess what? It's not good for the ratings. Unsurprising. This has continued to happen. And actually, what's also hilarious is that it's May of 2025. And that's when news of this story gets out. Not, I don't know, when Trump wins reelection by also winning the popular vote. Something people thought he couldn't do. You feel like at some point the decision makers would be like, you know what? We can just at least skip some of these topics. Just not talk about them instead of continuing to make most of our audience or some of our audience mad. Because I doubt much of that audience that cares would even be left at this point. But nonetheless, they're continuing to try to tell them to rein it in. That story is interesting out there in the world. Also, revolutionary new contacts that are being created in China. That would allow you to basically have night vision without ridiculous goggles on your face. That's another thing out there in the world. It sounds kind of intense. To be honest, if everybody had night vision, I don't know if it also would ruin your day vision. If someone just popped a light on, would you have to rip the contacts out of your eyes to see again? I'm not sure. But this seems rough. This seems to be something that's not going to be invented for any sort of good reason. It sounds like it's invented for ninjas or some other thing like that. I don't mean to say that, but my brain couldn't help me from saying that. That's where it went, and darn it, I'm okay with it. Another story out there that I thought was amazing. A guy graduated from the University of Buffalo in New York with a baby in his hands. He asked before, and I'll play some audio of him talking about it, if he could bring his infant son with him. And his infant son was dressed up in his own graduation gown. So both people matching outfits walk across the stage to accept a diploma. But here's the ridiculous part. He was being slowly chased by a police officer because the day of the event, the venue tried to not let him carry his baby onto the stage, citing some sort of, you know, safety concern. Stupid rules enforced by stupid people who seem angry is something I hate in society. And it seems to have plagued this whole situation here.
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I've asked last semester if I could walk with my baby in commencement prep session. And they were like, yeah, it's okay. No one's going to tell you no. But they said it was a safety hazard. They don't want the baby on stage. I won't walk then. And I ran. That's what I did. I promised him I'm going to walk with him on the stage or run with him on the stage. I have nothing against UB. I love UB. I graduated from UB. I'm doing my master's right now at UB. It's a great college.
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He got a standing ovation from the audience when he walked across the stage with his baby in a matching gown, graduation gown. So, of course, that made sense. And some moron who's like, nah, the rules apply here. It's too dangerous. This baby might not make it across the stage is someone ruining things. And you know these people in your life. They're angry, they're upset, they're, you know, horrible to be around, and they spread that misery in whatever way they can, mostly by, if they have the power, enforcing stupid rules at stupid moments. They definitely exist, and I get so fed up with these people and even trying to deal with them a little bit or have any sort of conversation with them because it's an absolute nightmare. All right, one last thing. You can tell I'm uniquely mad about that. One last thing that I thought was interesting out there Jennifer Lopez is being sued for copyright cases involving photos of her. So essentially, she put up photos of herself on social media that she didn't take. It is her, and she is wandering around, and someone else who took them is like, how dare you? use my photo of you. This would be the weirdest thing to deal with in the world of being a celebrity because no matter how much I understand the law would allow someone to sue for this, it would feel real stupid if I was the person that was putting up photos of me and someone was like, how dare you use that photo of you that I took? I would be like, come on, man, it's me. If I don't exist, there is no photo. So again, I'm not saying she's right to be mad, but I'd be mad too. All right, quick break. A lot more. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. DLash, DanaLashRadio, two great places on X, on Twitter, to follow her. At RadioCraigC, if you want to follow me, I need to get my Twitter numbers to be even remotely respectable. I feel like there's members of my own family that have more followers than I do there, so I'd love it if you followed me. I probably also need to put stuff more on X than I do. All right, anyway, let's move on. Hillary Clinton was on X. And she put something out. Producer Stephen pointed me in this direction, and it's ridiculously stupid. She says, this Memorial Day, will you celebrate and also, and she doesn't say this, but this is the part that should be there. Remember those who we've lost who defend the freedoms of our country. That's what Memorial Day is about. It's about remembering the fallen soldiers who fight for us right now, who fought for us in the past, the individuals who are willing to say that our safety, our protection, our freedom are things that they're willingly letting themselves potentially die for. They will give their life to protect those things for us. That's Memorial Day. That's not what Hillary Clinton wants us talking about. She wants us talking about how Trump's budget hurts kids. She says it hurts the health care coverage of kids, food insecurities of children. Families are going to be poor. There's other things, she says. The AI dangers are going to be unchecked. So kids are going to be harmed. Let's actually dive into those claims and see how real they are. One of the biggest ones here, and I think the reason this tweet went viral, is Hillary Clinton referencing food insecurity and children and the budget from President Trump. Here's the part that you need to understand about any cut that happens with the federal government when someone like President Trump takes over and someone like Biden steps out and how it actually works. won't be or doesn't have to be the extent to which they claim if certain things happen. So what's the difference between policies for conservatives and liberals in this world? It's a few more steps of paperwork to prove that what you're doing isn't taking advantage of the system. What has Trump's bill actually required? It's expanded work requirements. It's pushed the age back to which you can receive SNAP benefits without working from 54 to 64, meaning that you have to keep working into your 60s if you're getting a free government assistance to buy food. You have to demonstrate that you're working in order to do that. Beyond that, it reduces the exemptions that state and federal government can place on people from having to seek work and work in order to get these benefits. Able-bodied adults without dependence would be subject to rules unless they meet certain exemptions. And able-bodied adults with kids over the age of seven would also have new rules apply. So what happens? When the projection is cutting the budget and stopping spending by a ridiculous amount of money on some of these government policies. And then media runs with it's going to be, you know, millions or billions of dollars and tons of people affected. The assumption that people can't prove that they're going to start working. If everyone that's on Snap right now follows all the new requirements, which I'm not saying they will, and I am absolutely saying that the government is anticipating they don't, and that's why they're assuming there's going to be a projection of savings. Now, granted, it's over a 10-year period, too. $267 billion could be saved over 10 years. If they're wrong, if everybody that's on Snap needs Snap and is willing to work and is capable of working and finds a job and still needs Snap, if that occurs, we keep spending the same money on this. It doesn't just remove the system. That's the part that always annoys me. When people talk about this, and again, it's probably something that's not necessarily desired to be highlighted on either side of the political aisle. The side that's telling you they're saving you money wants to tell you that they're definitively saving you money. And the side that's telling you that this is a disaster and it's horrible and everyone that's impacted is going to suffer wants to tell you that without the other part. But essentially, the government is creating more hoops. for you to jump through. And if you jump through them, you retain your SNAP benefit. So those 11 million people, those 4 million kids that Hills is referencing in her tweet, might all still get to keep their benefits if they just do the thing that this administration wants them to do. And to be honest with you, and this is just a stat that I looked up Most people who take advantage of certain, you know, assistances in their community as far as food goes, this isn't necessarily SNAP benefits specifically, but this is other things. Things like getting food from your local church, whatever. Most of those groups of people, I think it's something like 70%, have a working adult that's in the household which would make them qualify for snap benefits and other things like that so it's really people who are using government benefits uh and not even necessarily going the additional proactive step of say getting uh the free food that might exist in your community through certain non-government programs or things that are tied to and also not tied to government programs and i know i'm getting deep in the weeds to say this But it's interesting because essentially the conservative position has long been stop taking advantage of our of our country. If you want a benefit and you don't want to do anything to try to get yourself into a place where you don't need this government benefit anymore, you shouldn't have it. It's not beneficial to you if you're relying on it without trying to improve your situation. That's the extent of the rule. And again, you're called heartless and horrible. for saying that part out loud, for behaving as though that part matters in the equation. And yet the more room you give for society to take advantage of something, the more people who do it. It's true of anything you do in your life. anything if you tell your kids that they're allowed to stay up a little bit after you know their bedtime one night the next night they're going to ask you if they can do it again and if they can do it again and again and so there is absolutely a need to rein in a bunch of government spending through restricting access to certain things that we're overspending on because there's people who are taking advantage of it and also of course people are just full on stealing money in all different kinds of ways within the government People who are corrupting and changing all of those things, too. But I just find this so fascinating that it becomes such a dominant conversation and so widely misunderstood by so many people. All right. I've spent way too much time harping on this. Let's do some other stuff. President Trump recently had a meeting with the Health Commission, and he said some things that are uniquely him that no one else does or says. And these are reasons that people who vote for him tremendously like him.
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I'd like to ask Oz in particular, because you and I know each other. He's a very tough hombre, this one. He's tough as hell. And so if you can lead the group, and it's not going to be easy. You're going to have to get in, and you're going to have to fight. If you do it, you can have, within a period of weeks, you can have drug costs that drop like a rock, okay? So you, as a group, I have great confidence, and if you don't do it, I am firing every single one.
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That's the part I love. And honestly, that's the part that you no longer see in most political places because politicians don't wield power that way. And if they do wield power, they're said that they're a dictator and something horrible and terrible. And then also they simply don't make jokes like that. They don't, you know, lighten the mood in a fairly strong way. But every part of that's amazing. And I actually believe Trump. If his health commission doesn't do the things he wants them to do, he'll fire all of them and find other people to do it because it's a uniquely beneficial to all Americans policy to want pharmaceutical prices, drug prices, you know, all kinds of medicine prices to go down. That's uniquely beneficial to a lot of us. And it should be wildly popular in this country. It shouldn't be the kind of thing that people are like, well, I don't know if I want that. I don't know if it's a good idea for me to pay the same amount of money that every other country in the world pays for these drugs, or at least some of them pay for these drugs, or get even closer to it if I'm not paying the exact same amount as some of the well-developed places in the world. All of those things are just crazy because the argument for the left can't actually be the substance of the discussion because they know they're losing there. They know that the average American wants the thing that Trump is offering. So they can't tell you that, you know, he's going after drug prices because it would be beneficial for us. They have to tell you that he's acting like an authoritarian and he's trying to do things, you know, through abusing the powers within his position as the president so that you believe they're bad, even if what he's doing is good, because that's the only way to combat him. All right, there's one other thing. I'll play this too, actually, before we take a break. And this is pretty great as well. This is ABC Channel 12, WISN in Milwaukee, in Wisconsin, reporting on that judge, Judge Dugan, who initially was charged with helping someone escape authorities. She let an illegal person sneak out of a back door at her courthouse. And when this occurred, most of mainstream media said it was President Trump imprisoning his political enemies. People said that there was not going to be any proof of this, that this was terrible, and the beginning of another authoritarian move by the current president. As of yesterday, for the first time, as you'll hear in this news coverage, sadly, this is radio, so you won't see it, but you can go find it for yourself for sure. There is video evidence of the judge doing exactly the thing she is charged with doing, meaning that this is not at all a Trump going after a political enemy, but someone who committed a crime on videotape getting caught for it. Here we go.
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For the first time, we're seeing Judge Hannah Dugan outside her courtroom April 18th wearing her black robes, appearing to confront several federal agents there to arrest Eduardo Flores Ruiz, a Milwaukee man and Mexican national charged locally with three counts of domestic battery. This video, released by Milwaukee County through an open records request, is part of the evidence in the case against Judge Dugan, who's charged with obstructing a federal investigation concealing Flores Ruiz, allowing him to leave her courtroom by a different door after sending the agents to speak to the Chief Judge. What?! Flores Ruiz, dressed in black with his attorney, is seen in several of the videos leaving by that other door, one prosecutors say was used by jurors and not open to the public.
SPEAKER 28 :
This can't be possible. There can't possibly be proof of the thing that she's accused of doing that has no connection to a politically motivated charge that you can't actually prove occurred. I thought all of those media outlets told me this didn't exist. And yet it does. And it's hilarious and amazing that this is a thing that's out there in the world for you to see and for me to see and for us to react accordingly. By the way, just real quick, the fact that they call people who are here illegally the place in which they live and then their sex is hilarious. They call him a Milwaukee man and then a Mexican national as opposed to a guy who's currently in Milwaukee. That's what Milwaukee man means. This is a dude that's not from Milwaukee, that's not from the United States, that doesn't have the right to be there legally, who's currently in that place. And yet when you say it, Milwaukee man, it sounds like somebody who has every right to be in Milwaukee. And they sanitize that language on purpose to slowly convince you that what's happening is horrible. as opposed to saying, here's a dude in a courthouse in Milwaukee who's from Mexico, who should be in Mexico, who got in trouble. And, well, honestly, the judge is in trouble for sneaking him out of a courtroom that he was probably going to get arrested in. All right, quick break. A lot more coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. I was just talking to producer Steven during the break about the NBA. It has been a fun playoffs this year. I know at times people say they don't watch certain sports anymore because of all the ridiculous wokeness that exists in those sports. The NBA is certainly one of the worst abusers of said wokeness in just permeating every part of that process. But still, if the games are good and if the play isn't interesting, I get suckered back in, especially the Indiana Pacers. Out of all the stories out there, and there is a game two happening tonight between them and the Knicks, and a whole lot of New York fans that absolutely want to see a win after the epic crumble in game one. But Pacer comeback games have been a unique thing this year, and even in the playoffs, and the historicalness of the last one makes you want to see that part. Honestly, I have a lot of friends who... actively currently don't like the NBA because of the political stuff who were messaging me if I watch that Pacers game and saying they regretted they didn't see it because they like to sometimes and maybe this is a sports fan thing in general. I'll just throw this out there and we'll move on to some other stuff. But I think it is true. Historic moments in sports. force you to pay attention if you care about them at all it doesn't even matter if it's like your favorite sport second favorite if it's a team you love or a team you hate you know the home run chase whatever it might be are those historic things those things that you know no one has done or only one group of people or one dude has ever done, they grab your attention because it's the 1% of the 1% of success in that world. Because already the professional athlete is someone most of us will never be. And then the professional athlete who does something that no one's ever done is you can't get away from it. And actually, you know what? I'll say this, and this might make me sound, you know, woke to some, and I promise it's not that. I occasionally check in on the stats of Caitlin Clark. I know the WNBA just started. I don't watch the games. It's not something I do. I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't or you should. It's not exciting to me the way the NBA is, no offense, even if Clark is shooting from half court occasionally. But I do check on her stats because I'm curious about that. And if she becomes the most dominant player in that league, clearly, which she already might be, it will be interesting. There will be something that will be interesting about it. Maybe there will be a demand to watch, especially if, say, she makes it to a championship game, a championship round where she's playing multiple games. I think that there might be a chance. I think 2.5 million people watched the opening game between them and the team out of Chicago, the Chicago Sky, I think, because of interest in it. So, again, something where athletes transcend their sport by being the best of the best and doing things no one else has done are always captivating. All right. Other things out there quickly before I take a break that probably matter to you might not matter to you. What meat you're going to be choosing to cook for Memorial Day based on where you live was a giant survey that went out into the world. And I thought it was somewhat hilarious, mostly because of a bunch of terrible decisions. that certain states are making. All of the Midwest just cooks bratwurst. This is Chicago, Indiana, a bunch of places. The top item that they'll be making for Memorial Day is cased meat. And that's just wrong, man. If money is no object, which is the premise of the question, you have to choose a more interesting, a tastier, a better version of meat than just choosing a version of a hot dog or a bratwurst. That's wrong. Some of my favorite places that made decisions that I more understand. Florida went with filet mignon. Also, I think Washington, D.C. threw on the filet mignon. A bunch of places on the West Coast actually chose ribeye and fancier versions and cuts of meat and steak. That's a better decision for me. Even Beef Tips, which was out of California. makes way more sense than simply buying and eating the bratwurst and the hot dog. I'm not shaming you for doing it. Delicious food. But if money's no object, improve the meat, people. Greg Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. So much stuff to talk about out there in the world. First, just a kind of sad and maybe a little bit confusing of an update out there. Billy Joel has been diagnosed with a brain disorder. I don't think that it's life-threatening. It does cause him to lose his balance, struggle with some hearing stuff and other things. Normal pressure hydrocephalus, NPH is what it's called. But Billy Joel has canceled all of his upcoming tour dates. All of his concerts as he gets treatment, physical therapy for a brand newly discovered brain disorder. That's just a thing that recently hit the news that I figured I'd throw out there. All right, let's talk about something that's causing, you know, a rift and even some pushback from his own side of the political aisle. President Trump's fight with Harvard. This is the latest move. A DHS letter from Kristi Noem to Harvard says that they're no longer going to be able to have foreign students. In fact, students that are currently there with F or J visas are going to have to transfer to another school to keep the visa or the visas being taken away. How is the Trump administration validating, or at least how are they claiming that it's valid, that they're going to do this? They said the campus is unsafe, and this part I easily agree with. The Trump administration says that Harvard has allowed for a very anti-Semitic, very anti-Israel sentiment to exist on their campus, that certain students who come from other countries enhance racism. that problem and that, and this is probably the most important caveat of it, Harvard has been absolutely unwilling to work with the Trump administration and some of its requests, demands, whatever you want to call them, to gain more information about that. The Trump administration, this government they want, DHS, information about what students are coming, what countries they're coming from. They go into Harvard and more background information about it. And Harvard is unwilling to give that information until, say, it would be too late and people are here in this country. And the United States wants to stop that. Now, look, I get every objection to this as like this is too far. This is trying to act like a dictator. I understand those or saying that, you know, penalizing certain students or whatever it might be. But here's the part that I find good or uniquely interesting about stories like this. Trump is absolutely willing to make someone the demonstration of why you should follow the rules so that everyone else behaves differently. And Harvard is trying to stand up against him for whatever political or, you know, I guess, optic win they think they're getting. But Harvard doesn't get as many federal dollars if it decides to fight the federal government. That's simply true. It doesn't mean that the United States is shutting Harvard down. Of course, it's not doing that. And it doesn't mean that Harvard can't recover the money and funds and all the things that are being taken away from them by the federal government some other way. And it's not even a huge part of the money that exists in that university anyway. But this is just showing them the extent of power that the U.S. government has. And essentially, all of this goes away if Harvard starts playing ball as far as the DEI initiatives go, as far as any of this stuff. But they want to stand firm. They want to stand tall and say, we can resist. We can, you know, say no to you. And this is the byproduct of doing that within the rules that exist in this country. It's not going to go further. No one's breaking any laws, though, and deciding to change things this way or that way and couching them. And I'm sure that'll be challenged in court as to whether or not what I just said is actually factually true. And we'll find out if someone decides it somehow isn't. But nonetheless, and this is the thing I do support. The idea that if you want to mooch off of our government in some way, shape, or form, and you wind up getting kicked in the teeth for it, especially if you're bragging about doing it, that it kind of sounds like it's a self-inflicted wound. Even if the way they're kicking you in the teeth is a way I wouldn't personally do it. I don't like government taking control of things that it shouldn't have control of. But again, it's not really totally doing that. All right, let's play some audio. This is a CNN interview. This is a Harvard professor who melts down over the outrageous, awful, authoritarian decision by the Trump administration. Well, this same guy and people just like him, people who work at that school, would love to be invited on to television to brag about the ways that they're fighting the Trump administration. They'd love that. They want the publicity of that. They want to be the tallest person in the room of short people saying, look at me, look at me, I'm great, because I'm fighting back. And sometimes when you fight back, the bully punches harder.
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this decision that Harvard can no longer enroll foreign students and existing foreign students have to transfer or lose their legal status. What's your reaction to this?
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I think it's awful and it's outrageous. It's another pattern of the Trump administration taking authoritarian actions. In the United States, the president does not have the power to punish people, target people for punishment because he doesn't like their politics. And he's targeting Harvard because he thinks he politically disagrees with them. It's a political vendetta. And he's doing this on the back of students. who were admitted to Harvard from around the world for their merit, for things that they accomplished in life.
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Here's what's amazing about this being a thing that people are saying, because on its face, I agree again that you shouldn't try to enforce your will by any means necessary. However, they're literally talking about the guy who was almost sent to jail in New York for a case that absolutely wasn't a felony, has never been tried as a felony before. A business, you know, accounting error, if that's what the Trump companies would say it was. And if New York says it's something else that got inflated from typically, you know, a misdemeanor charge to a felony without the explanation of what it was to try to throw the political opponent of Biden into prison. so that he couldn't run, and the only case that actually got that far. So politicizing and fighting and showing strength by using any sort of loophole you can find is absolutely something that the left constantly does, that Harvard, I'm sure, does all the time. They find a way to maximize every federal dollar they get, even when they don't need all the federal dollars. even when they'd be just fine without them. And a lot of organizations do it, and a lot of organizations feel they're smart for doing it. But when you depend on that, when you use those sort of things, you can also stand up in the middle of the room and say, by the way, I hate you. Now give me more money. It usually winds up being a thing that causes conflict. And so again, I know that Harvard's being made an example of, and I know that Trump is trying to tell the entire United States, play by our rules, especially our DEI rules, which I firmly believe in. I think he's absolutely right in trying to get rid of DEI. Let me say something else actually about that. So the mayor in Chicago, his name is Brandon Johnson, has been viral multiple times over the last few days for crazy stuff he is saying, mostly because he seems proud that he hired a bunch of people based on their race. He hired a bunch of people into this administration, the one currently running Chicago, because they're black and he's a black man, too. And so now that he's getting in trouble for that, even though he bragged about it as he was doing it. He's upset. He's like, how dare the Trump administration comes after me because they also disagree with me. They also politically don't like me and find something that I actually did wrong and try to hold me accountable for the thing I did wrong. Let me play a little bit of Brandon Johnson's audio. But this is amazing.
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You know, as far as, you know, the president's animus towards Women, people of color, working people. We have always known who he has been. This is not a surprise. He's a monster. Period. End of statement. We have the most diverse administration in the history of Chicago. And he is threatened by that. You can tell when someone is fearful is because they act out. We have a president that is screaming and having tantrums right now because we have an administration that reflects the city of Chicago, but he would much rather have administrations that reflect the country club.
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It is ridiculous. Every part of this is ridiculous. My favorite part is when he says that someone who behaves at all is, you know, someone acting out because they're afraid. So that means anyone who takes any action for anything is afraid. And that's why they're behaving the way they're behaving. Even say like a cop who's stopping someone from killing someone else. That cop was terrified. That's why he did what he did. And that cop might actually be scared. But nonetheless, that's not why you take the action. Sometimes you take action because people are doing things that are bad and you want them not to do the bad things anymore. And by the way, when he says that his current administration reflects the population of Chicago, oftentimes an excuse used by people to say they do things the way they do them. The truth is that the majority of people that live in Chicago are actually white. About 36% of Chicago is white people. 29% is black. 7% is Asian. 0.1% is Native American, et cetera, et cetera. There's other races. A lot of people who describe themselves as Hispanic might also describe themselves as white, by the way. So significant population and diversity there. Not exactly reflected. in the Brandon Johnson administration. And so here's what's so funny about all the virtue signaling and all the ridiculousness of these sort of conversations. They don't have to exist. And what I mean by this, and I'm not trying to help the bad guys do their bad stuff better. politicians need the political win of hiring people that don't look like me, a white guy. They desperately want it because if they didn't tout it, if they didn't brag about it, if they didn't celebrate it, they could do it and no one could object to it. If they told us everyone they hired got their jobs solely based on merit, I'd have nothing to be upset about. Now, I could be suspicious that that's not true and I could talk about it in a different way, but the fact that they admit it And they admit it because they know that it's politically advantageous to them with their voters that they want voting for them is the thing that causes the problem. Because when you use simple logic, you understand easily it's not a good policy. You shouldn't hire anyone based on their race or their sex. That's not why they should get a job. They should get a job because they're good at something. And anyone who wants to yell at a radio or me or anyone else saying that, how dare you? If that's true, then the people that have these jobs won't get them. Well, then they don't deserve them. If they can't get a job based on merit, they shouldn't get a job based on something else. And if you think they're not getting evaluated fairly, we can have that discussion by proving it, not just saying that you think it exists. You have to prove that it's true, which means that whoever gets the job, you have to demonstrate how they're not as qualified as someone who didn't get the job. And then we can do this on a case-by-case basis, and we can figure it all out. But anyway, I'll stop ranting about this. I just think it's ridiculous that this is the kind of conversation we have in society so much. And it emboldened so many people on a certain side of the political aisle to say things that are like evidently racist. I know people that will look at me and say they hate white dudes to my face. And, like, I can't fathom saying that to someone else to look at them and who they are and whatever their race, sex, anything is and be like, hey, I hate everybody that looks like you. And yet people can do it to me, to my face, and not worry about any ramifications from it because of the current version of the world we live in. And that is nuts. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right. This is the Dana Show. It's time for a quick five. My name is Craig Collins, filling in DLash, DanaLashRadio on X on Twitter to stay connected to all things DanaLash. A few interesting stories out there. Two of these are not connected, but they're going to kind of sort of feel like they are. First, Wienermobiles will be competing before the Indians. at Indianapolis Motor Speedways in something that's being called the Weenie 500. I'm not going to get sued for anything I'm saying so far, in case you're curious or worried. The Chicago dog, the New York dog, the slaw dog, the chili dog, the Seattle dog, among those that will be representing parts of the country as they race around the Indianapolis 500 Motor Speedway competing in a first-time-ever event. not sure which Wienermobile will be the fastest and what sort of bragging rights, if any, will be provided to the region of the country that it represents. I'm not sure anyone that will be proud of their Wienermobile for winning the Weenie 500. But that's a real thing out in the world. And again, not connected to the next story I'm talking about. The UK has passed a brand new law that punishes people who are found guilty of pedophilia by castrating them. That's a real thing out there. A whole lot of people are actually celebrating this, and I'm not saying that I'm upset about it at all, but they're celebrating this as a harsh punishment for uniquely disgusting criminals. Actually, they often say that people who have sex crimes against children that go to jail get pretty horrible treatment in prison because of how disgusting the rest of the world thinks that sort of thing is. But the UK said that in order to crack down on any sort of cases it's finding that are, you know, disturbing... And I'll actually I'll go one step further. I know police officers who at times have told me they've been involved in a uniquely horrible case where certain things come to light and the anger, the rage they get and how much it impacts them. That like parts of humanity can be so horrible and evil. It makes you understand this law, the reality of this law, and the value of laws like this, and the hope that it causes people to not do the thing in the first place that makes so much of our society mad. But I just thought that was uniquely interesting, and again, not tied to the Weenie 500 story. All right, other things out there. A yurt company, this is a real thing, a yurtle went bankrupt. Apparently, it's caused a whole lot of people to be ticketless and also accommodationless for a music festival. It sounds very similar to the Fyre Festival. 10,000 to 16,000 euros was spent on a luxury yurt that would have been set up at a local music festival. In Wilshire, coming up in just a little bit in that country, the Glanston Berry Festival. Now the people who paid 16,000 euros to yurtle are no longer going to have tickets to the event or an accommodation to be under during their fire festival-like experience. This is the dumbest thing I've heard. I would never buy tickets and a luxury yurt from a yurt company. Go to Ticketmaster like a normal person. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Bunch of stuff out there in the world to talk about, and yet there's a really weird thing that's been going viral from a little bit earlier today. This is a discussion on Outnumbered on Fox about a comment Michelle Obama made in a podcast. Again, this is raising people's eyebrows because of how weird it is that the former first lady is thinking about stuff like this. But here we go.
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latest comment to uh airbnb ceo is certainly raising some eyebrows watch this
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You know, I have to say, Brian, if I'm a single girl out there and I find out that Brian Chesky is single and I can, like, stay in his house. Here she goes. There you go. Right to the relation.
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Brian, you don't have to feel pressured.
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No, but we've never talked about this.
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He just got here. Have you ever? Her husband has tried to set me up before, so. Yeah, I'm very invested in Brian's love life.
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I hear a couple of things about that. First, a reaction to the thing Michelle Obama was trying to talk about. She's saying that if you're a single woman and you find out that a person that you're interested in rents out their home on Airbnb, that as an interested woman, you would rent the Airbnb and spy on the person you're interested in having a relationship with, which is uniquely terrifying. Like first and foremost, the craziness, the stalkerness, the all the things-ness that would hit you if some lady that you've asked out for a blind date, maybe you've met them on a dating app, all of a sudden pops up on your Airbnb as someone who just rented your house out. You'd be like, what? And then they're going through everything. That seems uniquely crazy. So first, just the premise of the comment is kind of weird. But the other thing that people said is raising eyebrows is Michelle Obama saying how interested she is in a unique man's love life and the stuff going on with him. And the fact that the guy kind of couches it by saying, well, she and Barack have been trying to set me up on some kind of a date or something anyway. But how how weird is every part of this? But especially the part where Michelle is essentially telling young women, this would be a great way to spy on a significant other you might have interest in. Just go ahead and rent their house. And then you have everything you want all to yourself to do all the spying, all the craziness. That is that's insane. And that's really a thing that happened on a podcast out there in the world. So many weird comments happen because people who go on shows think that they can't go viral. And then the rest of us get to talk about it no matter what show it's on because it went viral. All right. This is interesting to me. This is a discussion about the big, beautiful bill that passed the House. Of course, it has not yet passed the Senate. There's, I think, a lot of assumption that that's going to happen and the president will sign it into law. I think Hillary Clinton and others are tweeting about all the terrible, horrible things they think are in it. One of the most significant reactions, though, and even for some conservatives, for some Republican politicians, has been that they think there's going to be an increase in our debt, that there is going to be a lot of spending and a lot of bad decision-making as far as that's concerned. Well, in order to try to quell, potentially quell those concerns, the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant, went on Fox News and talked about how this could actually not be as bad as you think it is because we have this other plan to make money. We want to make more money. We want to have more success, more things created here. And when you do that, if you proportionately raise your debt to your GDP, then you're kind of doing okay. uh... or even if you do better with one than the negative one you're doing even better than ok something that democrats never do when they increase uh... deficit and debt spending they do not find a way to make money elsewhere in fact they're usually also losing money while spending more money but here we go comment there this bill adds trillions to our debt how is that acceptable to this administration again
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You're referring to the CBO scoring, I believe, which is tenure scoring, and it's DC-style scoring. So we think that we can both grow the economy and control the debt. And what's important, Bill, is that the economy grows faster than the debt. So what I would tell your viewers to focus on is what I'm focused on, is what Secretary Yellen was focused on, is what is the total debt to GDP? because we can grow our way out of this, that if we change the growth trajectory of the country, of the economy, then we will stabilize our finances and grow our way out of this.
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All right, here's the thing. First and foremost, don't mention Janet Yellen when you're trying to make a point that makes me believe you and hear you more. Janet Yellen is most famous to me for saying that inflation was transitory a ton of times when it absolutely was not. And she probably knew it was not, and she was lying to us. But the thing that is simplistically true from an economic standpoint is what he's saying. You can grow yourself out. But how do you actually do that? You have to create a lot more stuff here. And the Trump administration is actively trying to do that. You've probably heard today about how Apple faces unique specific tariffs to its company if it doesn't create more products here in the United States. Now, a lot of people will say this is government overreach, and I wouldn't totally disagree with you when those sort of things happen, when the government does everything it can to invade the space of our private sector. And yet at the same time, if I'm standing even further back and thinking to myself, does this net benefit the United States and the American people? The answer is yes. When Democrats do things like go after oil and gas and they tell you the benefits for the world and the benefit is fighting climate change and it doesn't make your life better, it makes your life uniquely worse and substantially worse. And then you realize even more so that if the U.S. does things alone, even the climate fearmonger people out there who tell you everything's terrible won't say we made a difference, won't say anything got better because things are more expensive simplistically in the United States. And yeah, Trump today actually also made news, President Trump, because he's going to go ahead and pull back restrictions on nuclear power. So we're going to have more energy and more cheap power here in the United States, which is going to make our lives better in the short term. But all of that is so interesting to me and so valuable to talk about and have an appropriate discussion about. Because sure, on paper, every time the government maps out a plan, they can tell you how they get from point A to point B, and it winds up being good for all of us. But there's a whole lot of times where you look at the paper, you see the squiggly line that's gone all over the place, and you go, yeah, that's not going to happen. Every part of this is terrible and not going to happen. But the truth is that if we do simply, you know, enhance the amount of things we create here, we can have a surplus of product going throughout the world instead of a deficit. And that would be a good thing. especially since our country is so uniquely qualified and skilled in the world of the things it creates, in the world of the people who can create things here, and also in just the world of the amount of wealth and money we have to buy our own stuff. If we make our own stuff, that would all be great. That would all make our lives better. And it's a thing that used to exist in our society that doesn't exist anywhere near as much as it should, which, again, is part of the way that the rest of the world has subsidized their growth based on our back. All right, let's play this. This is interesting. Totally out of the world of economics. I should probably get an economic expert at some point on to discuss this stuff with me when I fill in on this show. But Jennifer Lawrence said something that went very viral a few days ago about how kids have changed her life. And the reason I want to play this audio is this is a core tenet, a core belief of the conservative party, of your friend who votes conservative, or you, whoever you know that votes on a certain side of the aisle. And in fact, obviously, you know yourself. This is the reason that a lot of people say that when you're a young person, 18, 19, 20, just start voting, you're sucked into the narrative of the left that tells you that if you have a heart, you need to vote Democratic. But as you get older, if you have a brain, you wind up voting conservatively because you buy a home and see how much advantage the government takes of you for owning a home or even just having a job. And then eventually, when you have kids... You again notice how the things you want to fight for and the things that are important to you shift and change and how the side that actually is focused on that isn't the side you thought it was. If we had a lot more of this in Hollywood and then a lot more admission of how some of the things that are called radical by the left come from this foundation of caring about family, caring about certain things. we'd be so much more capable of coexisting and enjoying things like Hollywood again. You just need more of this sentiment and then the one, two, three step of what it provides to a lot of the discussions we have where people retreat to their corners. But here we go.
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Having children changes everything. It changes your whole life. It's brutal and incredible. And so not only do they go into every decision of, you know, if I'm working, where I'm working, when I'm working. They've taught me, I mean, I didn't know that I could feel so much and my job is, has a lot to do with emotion and they've opened up the world to me.
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Look, all the time, I'll say this all the time, there are certain things you can't understand until you experience them. And once you experience them, you will always understand them differently because now you get the thing that you couldn't, no matter how much you envisioned yourself in that space, you couldn't get there until you actually experience it. She is basically saying that and saying that on some of the most profound things that happen in people's individual lives. And of course, of course, most people agree with this. Now, the reason that this is such an important thing in the world of political discussion is because of how much this is at the bottom level, the basement level, the foundational level of a lot of the beliefs that come from it that exist within a side of the aisle that mainstream media often calls nuts and insane and radical. This is a core part of that. Family, faith, freedom, all things that people care about. Patriot Talk 920, by the way, an affiliate of the Dana Show that I have a show on, believes in those things too. It's actually the tagline of their station. But I think it's just very interesting, again, that Jennifer Lawrence is saying this and that so many people on a side of the aisle that she's not on embraced it and played it and liked it because they never even hear this from Hollywood and how simplistic it is to just admit this. I get to step closer to at least having a conversation without you refusing to listen, even if you don't wind up agreeing. All right, quick break. A lot more. This is Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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But he shot this insurance executive. And I mean, there's this whole host of people trying to justify it because their insurance got canceled. Therefore, it's okay to go assassinate some insurance worker. That is teetering on anarchy.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right, it's time for Florida Man. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. First Florida Man is Olivier Rieu, who is a 7'9 Florida basketball player for the Florida Gators. He didn't actually play this season, even though they won the championship. He was redshirted because he's developing some of the skills that might be lacking fundamentally in a guy that's 7'9 inches tall. But they expect him to be very good next year for that team. He met President Trump. Florida man in the White House, seven foot nine, hanging out and having a conversation. Here's how Trump reacted to the giant human that stood next to him for a sec.
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And you're a beautiful looking guy. I think it's great. Come on over. Is he a good player? What a big advantage.
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What a big advantage. That's going to be in life. Trump is not short and his son is not short. And still, Olivier Rieu is gigantic. He's gigantic. He's huge. He's actually the kind of dude who can cut down the championship nets without getting on the ladder at all, which is something you might have seen after Florida won the national championship if you were watching. You're like, who's that giant dude they weren't playing? That's this guy out of Canada who is hopefully going to be good, but at least going to be ridiculous to see regardless for that school. All right, other things out there as far as Florida man stories go. A Florida man was accused of setting fire to a strip club and throwing a urine-filled bottle at a police officer. This is the kind of story that only comes out of Florida. It actually is coming out of Tampa. The Pink Pony Showgirls Strip Club in Tampa had a crazy thing happen at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday. You feel like anybody who's hanging out at pink pony show girls at 5 a.m. on a Wednesday is the kind of person that might make certain life decisions. Uh, this guy's name is Arvin. He's 29 years old. Uh, he did, as I said, set fire to the building, uh, because he was upset at an experience he had inside the club. And he then started to throw, uh, urinated empty bottles that he had urinated in at officers as they were trying to arrest him for being an insane, horrible, terrible person who does horrible, terrible things and makes all the other people that were at Pink Pony Showgirls at 5 a.m. upset. I don't know how many people that is, and I don't know what the plan is to, you know, respond to it, but I feel like this isn't over. I feel like more is coming out of this story, and none of it's going to be good, and all of it's going to be terrible. There's a simple rule that nothing good happens after, like, 2 a.m., and it's usually true, and I feel it's especially true in Tampa on a Wednesday. All right. Another story out there. One last one for a Florida man. A Florida woman actually struck a man in a MAGA hat at a Largo Park before battering an officer. Sometimes women seem to think that the rules don't apply to them. I guess Laura Elizabeth Garrett, who's 33, thought she was allowed to get mad at a 70 year old, 72 year old dude in a MAGA hat. And so after a confrontation and Laura demanding that he think what she thinks, no matter what it is they were talking about, I'm sure it was a lot of stuff. She hit him and she attacked him. And that's going to cause some issues. And then when the police got there, she also attacked them, which is probably going to compound the situation. It will be unsurprising to many people. But Laura has blue hair. entirely blue hair that looks sort of ridiculous. I don't know that she went the expensive route in getting it dyed that color, but she's also someone who's obviously very much of a certain side of the political aisle, which is not common in Florida, by the way. I feel like Laura lives her life fighting with a lot of people a lot of the time. I lived in Florida for a few months. I had planned to live there longer, but I lived there for a few months. And then eventually I moved to Texas in Houston, where I am now. And I remember one of the first things I saw when I got there was a dude shirtless, driving a motorcycle with a Trump flag attached to the back of it, just waving in the wind. And that dude was feeling good about himself. And I think it was like 2 or 3 a.m. since I was driving from somewhere else when we were relocating to Florida for a bit, which is a story for another day. But I remember seeing that and thinking to myself, yep, I'm in Florida. I'm in the place that Dana talks about a lot on the radio. And I wasn't sad about it. Laura, this person in this story, probably is. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. So much stuff out there in the world to talk about. And yet one piece of viral audio that I just love, I just love it today, is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. sitting down with CNN for a chat that has an epic, epic back and forth in it. So Caitlin Collins seems to think she's got Robert F. Kennedy Jr., She's trapped him. She's concocted the perfect plan in order to get him to say a thing that she thinks is uniquely embarrassing, because how dare anyone be even remotely humble as a human being whatsoever, especially someone in charge of our health as a country, or at least in charge of directing what we do with our health as the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services. And so as this back and forth goes, the reasonableness of robert f kennedy junior and and the mildness and how he reacts to the stupidity of this challenge is it's incredible it's like it is the kind of stuff they should teach in debate classes i think here we go that you said that people should not take your medical advice yeah that's your position yeah absolutely people should not be taking medical advice for
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i'm somebody who is not a physician but they should and they should also be skeptical about any medical advice they need to do their own research you know you're a mom if you're a mom you do your own research on your baby carriage on your baby bottles on your baby formula they don't have medical degrees obviously if you're a mom and you're looking at what science has been tested they do they trust their doctors and their pediatric real quick i have to stop it
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You know what to the left doing your own research sounds like? It sounds like we're proposing that they run the studies themselves. That we're saying that everyday people got to go out there in the world, create studies that are perfect and could be published in medical journals throughout the country. And in those studies, make sure to examine whether or not things work. That's their version. That or you're just a moron and an idiot, and you couldn't possibly read the opinions of six or seven people and decide which one you believe most, or research the people to decide which one you believe most, or even more so, maybe go to a few doctors and have conversations with them as part of doing your own research. There's all different kinds of ways to do that. But I love that to Caitlin Collins, what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just said is, you know, break out the beakers. Get all the stuff you need to do the testing yourself, people. Otherwise, you won't know for sure.
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You know, one of the responsibilities of living in a democracy where decisions and every sort of expert are subject to all kinds of biases, one of the responsibilities of living in a democracy is to do your own research and to make up your own mind.
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So that's your message to moms or to anyone is to do your own research?
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I would say be skeptical of authority. My father told me that when I was a young kid. People in authority lie. And we've seen a lot of that in our country. And people in the media lie. And people need to make their own judgments and be skeptical and maintain their capacity for critical thinking. And that was shut down during COVID. And the media was complicit in that.
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disagree on that last part. I love how she had to get that in, by the way, where he says that we need to have a capacity for critical thinking. A lot of that was attempted to and actually successfully shut down during COVID, and media played a huge role in that. She's like, I don't agree on that. I'm incredible, and everything I did and everything media did was amazing, even if we actively didn't tell people things that were true and instead trusted the government to be giving us the only version of the truth, which, in fact, it was not by any study that we have now. But I digress as I say that. I love this. This is so good. because it should not be remotely controversial, and it will be, that anyone in our society encourages you to be a critical thinker that utilizes the freedom of information that exists in our country to go look for information. That is not remotely. If you said that to a founding father, they'd be like, great, no matter who they were. That's the core of what we want in the United States of America, people that feel like they can get the truth on their own by looking for it, however they look. And again, if you want to, go ahead and break out the beakers. Turn it into like an episode of Breaking Bad. Just make sure that you don't get arrested and do a bunch of years of hard time for whatever test you're doing. But I love every part of this. And again, I love the response by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Because if he got madder, if he acted crazier, that would be the narrative. And I'm sure... The simple clip of you're telling the American people not to trust your medical advice will be used a bunch of places. And all of the explanation part will be removed from it, even though that's the part that actually matters. And they want the simple quote so they can say that the person in charge of health in the United States says you shouldn't trust him at all, even though that's not what happened. But nonetheless, again, it's one of my favorite pieces of audio I think I've heard in a while. And also tremendously interesting. When you think about the impact Trump has had on our country simply by who he's chosen to put in positions of authority within the government, within his cabinet, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who thought he was a Democrat for most of his life and now realizes that the Democratic Party has absolutely left him behind. All right. I got to play this audio, too. This is from ABC 12 WISN in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It is footage which I know on radio you can't see, but also a description of the footage on the television and a local news team that I'm guessing is always on your side or, you know, in the heart of the city or whatever the tag might be for them. But it's Judge Dugan. You might remember that name as someone that got arrested and all of media said that Trump was imprisoning his political enemies, that he was essentially doing the thing that Democrats were trying to do to him and that it's horrible and terrible, even though a whole lot of those media outlets cheered it on as they hoped Trump would go to jail. Now we're seeing actual evidence of the thing this person is accused of doing, meaning it's fairly likely she gets found guilty of this crime now based on this information. But we're seeing it for the first time, which essentially means that the places that want to cover up these sort of things hope you forgot about this story and aren't paying attention anymore. Well, the actual truth breaks. that it definitely was someone deserving of being, you know, accused of something bad because she absolutely did it based on this video. Here we go.
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For the first time, we're seeing Judge Hannah Dugan outside her courtroom April 18th wearing her black robes, appearing to confront several federal agents there to arrest Eduardo Flores Ruiz, a Milwaukee man and Mexican national charged locally with three counts of domestic battery. This video, released by Milwaukee County through an open records request, is part of the evidence in the case against Judge Dugan, who's charged with obstructing a federal investigation concealing Flores Ruiz, allowing him to leave her courtroom by a different door after sending the agents to speak to the chief judge. Flores Ruiz, dressed in black with his attorney, is seen in several of the videos leaving by that other door, one prosecutors say was used by jurors and not open to the public. For the first time, we're seeing Judge Hannah do that again.
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Yeah, shocking, right? Crazy that that's something that actually happened, that actually occurred in our society, and that most of media told us this was definitely not true, this definitely was not real, and it's the beginning of, you know, Trump is a dictator, only to eventually find out that it 100% absolutely is perfectly accurate. All right, there's another thing I want to play, and it's probably audio that I'm overly kind of intrigued by. It's just, it's weird, and I can't help it. You know what, actually, I'll save it. It's audio Michelle Obama at a podcast that she recently, a comment she made. We'll get to it in about 20 minutes. But it is audio of what she thinks women that are single would do if they find out the person they want to date also has an Airbnb listing available. That's all I'll tell you for now. I'll save it because I've been talking about it too much. But I'll also play this. This is J.D. Vance, the vice president, speaking to the Naval Academy's graduation ceremony today. and demonstrating why people in positions of authority who have unique reverence and connections to military wind up being so important and why we need more leaders who have military backgrounds or who have versions of understanding of the sacrifice that men and women make and the importance of things like Memorial Day as our leaders. This is something we need more of, not people like Walls who run away and hide when they're supposed to be serving our country and then claim things that they didn't do as stolen valor claims that make everybody go nuts. But here's J.D. Vance at the Naval Academy's graduation ceremony.
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for all of about 120 days. And this summer, I will celebrate my 41st birthday. But I have never in those 41 years been so proud as I am today to honor you, to celebrate you, and to congratulate you on a job well done. Now I'm sure some of you share my politics and some of you don't. But I know today I speak for a grateful nation when I say we are rooting for you. Naval Academy class of 25, we are proud of you and we depend on you. Congratulations. Godspeed. And do great work.
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A freaking men. Not everything he just said there. And honestly, with Memorial Day coming up on Monday, the fact that people in our society all the time say that they're willing to put their life on the line for our protection, our freedom, our safety. It is so important to think about it and remember it. And there's a lot of ways you can do that, by the way. You can absolutely tell someone, thank you for your service. You can absolutely honor those who were lost, either people that you know in your own family, people in your community, by simply going to things. If you've gone to a military funeral before, even one where you didn't know someone, but you saw a procession happening and you decided to attend part of it, you know how moving they are. You know how horrible some of the family impact and loss of individuals is, especially for those who lose their lives defending our country. But because of that, again, you also should have an appreciation for what these men and women do and, you know, what happens in the world all the time to these individuals. And honestly, another thing I'll recommend is an honor flight. There's a bunch of honor flights throughout the country. You should show up at the welcome home to one in your community if you have one and just feel what it's like for these veterans that are being honored at the honor flight to come back from a day trip or a weekend trip to Washington, D.C., where they get to see all the monuments to the wars that our country has participated in. And then they come home to their community. And usually it's a hero's welcome back. And that will move you. That's just one of a couple of things. I'm sure there's a lot of other worthy organizations you can work with and experience. But that's my recommendation. Do something like that tied to maybe celebrating Memorial Day and honoring those in Memorial Day. And again, very happy that a U.S. Marine is our vice president and someone who says things like that. All right. Quick break. A little bit more coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
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That's right. It is time for the quick five. This is pretty funny. The Wiener 500. I was talking about it a little bit earlier in the show today. We actually have the audio of the green flag drop, baby. Six Wiener mobiles, one iconic track, the Indianapolis 500 Motor Speedway. The Indianapolis Motor Speedway is actually what I should call it. And this is a real thing that's going to happen every year now, I believe. Here we go.
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Ha ha ha!
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Okay. Some things I already love about this, and I know you can't see it because this is radio and not, you know, video, but I love the fact that you're already hearing, like, the dramatic music for the spot they're creating for the Weenie 500, which is incredible, and the history that they're saying will be made as you hear cannons go off in the background.
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All right, look, this might be a gift just for me right now that I'm watching, but it's a green flag to a red, you know, flag symbol being dropped and the Wienermobiles coming out of their parking spots and everything about it is epic. So far for just you, all I've done is share the music, but you definitely will enjoy it. I thank you for the producer, Stephen, for sending it to me because it is hilarious and you should check out the Weenie 500 in the near future on televisions throughout the country. I imagine it's going to be a cherished event. that we all celebrate along with the Indianapolis 500, which is uniquely fun, by the way. If you've never been to an IndyCar race at all in your life and you contemplate going to just one, you should go to the Indianapolis 500. That's the thing you should do. You should fly into Indianapolis. You should listen to Dana Affiliate WIBC in Indy if you go there. And then as you're hanging out and listening to the radio, you should also definitely enjoy yourself some Indy 500 time because it's going to be an incredible, incredible experience. All right. Some other quick things as far as the quick five go. The last pennies will be minted next year. President Trump said he's done with the penny. And so we are, in fact, done with the penny. It costs us quite a bit of money to make pennies. $56 million a year is the cost to us. So why do that? Why bother to keep creating them? Part of the reason we make so many is people just throw them out. So now they won't exist at all. The bad news, nickels also cost us money. Making nickels actually cost us 14 cents each time. So that's a loss leader too. At some point, maybe we'll just have everything in those varieties be digital only. You only have digital versions of pennies and coins and nickels and stuff. I'm sure it would make people mad. I'm not telling you that it's a great idea or a great solve to our problem. But it certainly is an issue if all of these different types of currencies cost way too much to be created based on the thing they're being created on. We can go to paper versions. of quarters and nickels and dimes and stuff, we could try it. Probably won't be any more valuable, but darn it, it's a thing to consider. Other things out there that I thought were interesting before we take a quick break, there is this audio of Aaron Paul where he talks about the fanciness of his own life and how he books private concerts in his living room because he's a famous person with a lot of money when he wants to see a band. He just calls them and says, hey... Can you do a gig on Thursday at my house? This is part of his discussion about that.
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We've been doing these shows for north of a decade. But the last one, actually one of my favorite bands, Cigarettes After Sex. No one has phones or cameras. Everyone's just in the moment. And honestly, like 90% of the time, people say, yeah, I'm down.
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This is great. I'd love to go to your home and in your living room, watch a famous band perform music. That sounds awesome, dude. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about. This is just like uniquely weird. I can't get over this audio. It amuses me a lot more than probably it should, but darn it, that's fine. Michelle Obama was doing an interview and she said something that has terrified me. Not that I'll ever be victim to this. I'm a happily married man, and my wife has full access to my home at all times, of course, because she lives here, too. So it's not like I'm afraid. I don't want anyone to hear this topic and be like, whoa, Craig Collins is hiding some things in his house. But Michelle Obama said during an interview that if you were a single woman and you found out the guy you were interested rents out his home on Airbnb. She's the kind of person that would rent it to see what's going on in this guy's life. And that I find to be uniquely stalkery, kind of creepy, that if you were maybe about to go on a date with a lovely young lady, and the first thing you found out as you look down at your phone is your Airbnb has been booked and that that person wants to stay a night in the house. And I'm sure they'd be a little bit more secretive of it and not actually go that road and probably have somebody else book it and then be in there. But I think going through the medicine cabinet, all that stuff is part of the plan. Anyway, here's the audio. Fox News talked about this and played the clip where Michelle Obama's contemplating what she would do if she were single and found out Brian, the guy they're interviewing, had a home on Airbnb.
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Her latest comment to Airbnb CEO is certainly raising some eyebrows. Watch this.
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You know, I have to say, Brian, if I'm a single girl out there and I find out that Brian Chesky is single and I can, like, stay in his house. Here she goes. There you go. Right to the relation.
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Brian, you don't have to be feeling pressured.
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No, but we've never talked about this.
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He just got here.
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Have you ever?
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Her husband has tried to set me up before, so.
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Yeah, I'm very invested in Brian's love life.
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So, look, the thing that people are reacting to that I'm very invested in Brian's love life thing is adding to conspiracy theories or whatever you want to call them, that there's not exactly happiness in the household for Barack Obama, Michelle Obama. I don't care about that as much. That's not the part that intrigues me, to be honest. I really don't give much of a crap about if they're in a happy relationship or not. I don't know if I'm supposed to. It's not actually a thing I think about all that often for any politicians. I'm not hoping badness on people. It's not in my brain a lot. But it's that first part. It's the idea that if you found out that the person you're interested in rented out their house on Airbnb, that you'd want to be in it when they're not home. That is terrifying. There's something about that that I would absolutely think you would not want to go on another date if that's a move that someone pulled on you. And no matter when or how they did it, no matter when this occurred, this seems like the kind of thing that's just absolutely crazy. I have a piece of audio. I have not screened this audio to make sure that it's playable on the radio. But as a couple of friends of mine in another show often say, you got to risk it for the biscuit. But this might be a warning for producer Steven that we're risking it for the biscuit. This is a viral piece of video that just popped up of a Democratic politician saying they hadn't slept in 27 hours because they were fighting the good fight. I'm not saying that I expect this to have naughty language in it. But if you're awake for 27 hours, you never know. Once again, I'm risking it for the biscuit.
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Just got back from the Capitol. I haven't slept in 27 hours. Democrats fought all night, all day and into the morning today. to try to stop the Republicans from yanking health care away from nearly 14 million people, from making the largest nutrition assistance cuts in American history, all in service to making rich people richer.
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She's been asleep. She's been awake for 27 hours. It looks like it, by the way. She's in like a bathrobe and stuff and her eyes are kind of like blinky and whatnot. I don't know. She's obviously playing this up quite a bit as well, which is so stupid. But here's the other thing. And I've reacted to this before and I'll react to it again on the show. The narrative that the biggest impact that the big, beautiful bill will have negatively on our society will be all the ways that it's pulling support from tons and tons of Americans. And yes, there's a bunch of projected savings in the budget for things like SNAP programs or things like Medicare programs. But if you're being truly fair about how you discuss that, truly honest and fair you're not talking about money that's just strictly being taken away you're talking about money that is creating more hoops to jump through for people to get it and the design of those hoops is to prevent people from misusing our system Two of the biggest changes that will be happening for both SNAP and Medicare, the age in which someone who is receiving these kind of benefits will go up from in the 50s to in the 60s, for which you have to be a working adult. If you are able-bodied, if there's no restrictive reason that you're not working a job and you get some kind of gig and then still need assistance, you would qualify for it under Trump's policy. So it's not that you have no access to it. It's that you have to do some things in your own life to give yourself the additional ability to have that enhance how you're living your life or what you're doing to make ends meet, to get by. That's one aspect of it that really matters. The other one is that if you do remove waste, fraud, and abuse in our society in all kinds of ways, which Democrats even agree with, depending on what the topic is, then you definitely save the government money and that should be a good thing. And when you don't do that, when you don't put a prevention mechanism in place to stop people from misusing systems, They do it and they do it more and more and more. And I know I'll get some kind of anger, at least some places for saying it this way, but there's no other way to say it. If you have kids and you give your kids the ability to not follow a rule one time or two times, there's a chance that they're never gonna wanna follow it again. So the more you give in, the more people who you give in to decide that now's the opportunity to take advantage. So simply creating a work requirement for some of the most generous support systems that exist within our country is not the same as fully removing those systems from our government's payrolls. And that's how it's going to be represented by politicians and by mainstream media, that the money was just taken away. It's projected to not be there, but it's projected because of waste, fraud and abuse, not because people who are deserving of some of this assistance won't be able to get it. That's just a point to put out there. I know you might still not be happy that there's a path to still get these things if you have other issues with certain programs. But nonetheless, I think it's important to at least have a conversation honestly when talking about this stuff. All right. One other thing I do want to play. Before we take a break and shift gears because, darn it, we can't do serious stuff the entire show. And this isn't all that serious, but it is amusing. President Trump is such a unique person that there are times when he'll say or do something, even if you hate the guy, even if you think he's the worst politician that's ever existed on the planet, where you can't help but admit that was kind of funny. What just happened there, that was amusing. So he's sitting and talking to the health commissioners, the health commission, excuse me, and he's talking about how he'd like to see the price of medicine go down, something that almost all of the United States would like to see. There are not many Americans who make the argument who don't work for pharmaceutical companies that we should have these prices continue to be ridiculously high compared to the rest of the world. And so as Trump is talking to them and as he's calling some of the individuals on that commission out by name, He also says something that only Donald Trump, as far as, you know, someone in an office like this would say, or anyone in general. Like, sometimes the comments he makes, your friend at the end of the bar doesn't even say them. Not that that's bad. It's just certainly unique about him. And I think it's probably what gets people to do more of the stuff he wants them to do.
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I'd like to ask Oz in particular, because you and I know each other. He's a very tough hombre, this one. He's tough as hell. And so if you can lead the group, and it's not going to be easy. You're going to have to get in, and you're going to have to fight. If you do it, you can have, within a period of weeks, you can have drug costs that drop like a rock, okay? So you, as a group, I have great confidence. And if you don't do it, I am firing every single one.
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It's that last part. If you don't do this, if drug prices don't go down, I'm firing every last one of you. And it's said as a joke and everybody in the room laughs, but it's the kind of thing that Trump also kind of means. And if you had another politician, say a Biden, who probably would forget halfway through his sentence what he was talking about, Obama, anyone try to make a similar joke to that, it would be very different. There would be no undercurrent of threat. that exists there, that absolutely is a byproduct of the way that Trump is talking about those sort of things, that again, as I said, makes him uniquely effective when he's negotiating with other countries in the world, when he's talking about a wide variety of issues, or in this case, even threatening not just people getting fired on a commission in the government, but he's also going to add tariffs potentially to Apple's products or the things they use and the things they import into our country to make these products. If they don't start making iPhones here in the United States, I think it's something like a 50 or 60 percent tariff. And that that actually seems like a good thing, too, because, again, more production, more creation here will lower the amount of trade deficits we have with the rest of the world. We'll increase our GDP. We'll do all kinds of things that help us be a more wealthy country. a country that should be ridiculously wealthy, or we should have a huge advantage, if I'm trying to sound like Trump for a second, that we simply don't have because we've subsidized the rest of the world for a very long time. And that is one of a couple things that is absolutely at the forefront of Trump's mind and his policies in trying to pull that apart. And it certainly is aggressive, and certainly people can have problems with some of the things that are happening now, but if the end result is the success that they're hoping it is, I don't think I'm going to look back on this time period all that mad if we wind up in the place that we could be in in the very near future. All right, quick break. A little bit more coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. So many things to talk about. So little time left to do it. I do love a list of things that went viral on the Internet, as sometimes I do enjoy even the simplicity of a list. These are all the top one-hit wonders from the 2000s, according to several people. I think Rollingstone.com, among the places that rank these things, are the number one one-hit wonder. teenage teenage dirtbag uh i love that song that's pretty great will afford made the list of number two i want to be bad uh jay kwan and tipsy uh is number four on this list uh excuse me yeah number three was will afford number two lip gloss little mama and number five the reason who bestank now here's what's funny about this uh since this is specific to the 2000s I bet you a whole lot of people have no idea what most of these songs are, even though they're the biggest hits of the 2000s. Because even like the one-hit wonder lists that exist out there, just they fail when you compare them by generation to one-hit wonders of, say, the 80s, the 90s, the 70s, any of those generation one-hit wonders. It's just kind of sad. As a person who is in my late 30s, almost 40s now, and does fondly remember many songs on this list, it also makes me realize how worse music was during my generation than past. Because, like, come on, Eileen. is a top song from the 80s as a one-hit wonder. Take Me On, another one, 8-6-7-5-3-0-9 by Tommy Two-Tone is a one-hit wonder that makes the list if you're looking at the 80s as far as like top 10 songs go there. This is better. That music's just better. And I'm sure somebody's yelling at their radio that I should do the 70s or the 90s as far as one-hit wonders go for how successful those songs are. Fine. I'll relent. I'll be controlled by you. I never promised you a Rose guard is a number one, one hit wonder from the seventies, a five, 10, 15, 20 as another one from the presidents, which is pretty great afternoon delight. Come on. That's been parodied in a few different things, and that's pretty great there, too. That's number three on the list. All Right Now, Babyface, Beach Baby, a bunch of songs that also make that list. So again, My Generation of Music, while I enjoy this, probably has a bunch of one-hit wonders you've never heard of before. But The Reason is You by Hoobastank. Come on. That's not such a bad song. All right. A bunch of people probably just yelled it definitely is. Let's move on. Some other things out there. I just thought this was interesting as well, too. There's a couple big movies being released this weekend. Mission Impossible Final Reckoning will be in theaters starting today. And also the live-action version of Lilo and Stitch. Now, the reason I found both of these interesting enough to talk about is I've really enjoyed the Mission Impossible movies. And every time that Tom Cruise decides to make a new one, he does something dumber than the thing he did in the last one. And it's awesome to watch. So I hope that this one has a lot of stupid stunts that didn't need to be done by Tom Cruise, but were done anyway, because it makes me appreciate the movie more. And then the other thing, Lilo and Stitch. So this is a Disney live action thing. And of course, after the horribleness of the last couple Disney live action things that came out and some of the crazy also controversies that surrounded them, like Snow White specifically and its lead actress and the things she said about the terribleness of the movie, the safest bet you might be able to make is to put out Lilo and Stitch, which was already the plan. And I don't know how many live actions are coming after this, but I'm wondering how successful this one's going to be because it's uniquely appealing to kids. I think it's probably uniquely appealing to parents, too, because there's no wokeness that I'm aware of, although maybe there is some sort of controversy. I would be unsurprised if one does exist or did exist, but I'm not familiar with it at all because it's an alien that comes from somewhere else that doesn't exist. that looks like it's real, and a movie about a little kid who has the alien as a pet dog in the movie. That's as far as I understand so far. I know a few more things about Lilo and Stitch, actually. But I wonder if this will be a template for Disney to not completely do away with remaking things, but to instead kind of shy into the corner where you can't possibly inject wokeism into these things. And I say it while realizing you totally still can't. Because the Buzz Lightyear movie had woke elements to it. And when you watch that first Toy Story back in the day, I doubt you thought there would ever be a woke version of Bud Lightyear in the future. And yet one exists. So who knows? But I do think that's interesting. Tom Cruise versus an alien from space. which I think based on his belief in Scientology, he kind of thinks he is too. I will see who comes out the victor there, and we'll see how well everything else does at the box office. I do still go to movies. I know a lot of people don't, but I do, and I like going, and hopefully you go out and check out something for the Memorial Day holiday. All right, one super last thing as far as the last topic before we get out of here. Half of people who have a cleaning service in their home clean the house before the cleaning service gets there. Half. 53% actually. You pay someone to do work you don't want to do, but then you do it so you're not embarrassed by how hard the work is. Anybody doing this should stop. The rest of us can laugh at you. All right, this is it. I'm out. Dana's back after the holidays. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
In light of the shocking murder charges in D.C. and ongoing debates on hazing in colleges, today's episode raises questions about safety and justice. Get insights from Elizabeth Allen of StopHazing.org, who discusses the metrics of campus hazing and the urgent need for preventative measures. Plus, a look at the Angel Tree Camp Drive and how listeners can make a lasting impact on children's lives this Memorial Day Weekend.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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Welcome in on this Friday edition of the Mike Gallagher Show as we head into Memorial Weekend. Joey Hudson in for Mike today. It's a pleasure to be with you. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can text me on the MyFellow text line. You can call. Teresa will put you in queue. We'll talk as time permits. Email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. We have a lot of breaking news today. Busy, busy Friday. The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld President Trump's option to remove Biden-appointed officials within the federal government. This is a case of the National Labor Relations Board Chairman Gwen Wilcox being removed from her duties and the Merit Systems Protection Board member Kathy Harris, two Democrat appointees of the Biden administration. President Trump removed them from their positions early in his administration. They sued, of course, and The Supreme Court agrees that President Trump has that option. He can remove people from their job and replace them with people who are better aligned with his administration. We'll dive into that in just a moment. Caroline Leavitt yesterday declared that the Democrat Party has never been more radical and out of touch with the needs of the American people, she said, referencing those Democrats who voted against President Trump's big, beautiful bill this week. Members of the House. pulled an all-nighter Wednesday going into yesterday morning in order to pass the bill. It was a squeaker passed by one vote. Every single Democrat voted against it. Unfortunately, two Republicans did as well. We're going to jump into that as well. The Department of Homeland Security is eliminating the student visa program at Harvard University due to pro-terrorist conduct at campus protests. This is in response to Harvard's refusal to comply with its request for behavioral records of student visa holders. This will hit Harvard hard. because they depend a lot on the high tuition that these foreign students bring to their university. And it may not just be Harvard. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem says she's going to be looking at other schools as well. And we're learning more details about the horrific shooting of two Israeli embassy staffers outside of D.C.' 's Capitol Jewish Museum, with officials saying that the suspect... literally went back and fired more rounds into their bodies as they're lying on the ground to be sure that they're dead. Yesterday, interim U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., Jeanine Pirro, announced murder charges against 31-year-old Elias Rodriguez. He's accused of killing the two Israeli embassy workers in cold blood Wednesday night in the name of a free Palestine. Rodriguez is a resident of Chicago. He's been charged with two counts of first-degree murder for the murders of a young couple, Yaron Lashinsky and Sarah Lynn Milgram. Pirro announced the charges at a news conference yesterday, saying a young couple at the beginning of their life's journey about to be engaged in another country had their bodies removed in the cold of the night in a foreign city in a body bag. Here's Janine Pirro at her news conference yesterday announcing the charges.
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Two families now are left to grieve for dreams that will never be realized. And as I speak right now, there is an individual who is being presented in court and charged with various crimes. 31-year-old Elias Rodriguez of Chicago, Illinois, is now charged by complaint after his initial appearance before U.S. Magistrate Judge Matthew Sharbaugh with the following. Murder in the first degree for the murder of 30-year-old Yaron Levshinsky, a foreign official and official guest of the United States. Mr. Levshinsky was here on official business for the state of Israel. The defendant, Rodriguez, is also charged with two counts of murder in the first degree for both Yaron Leshinsky along with 26-year-old Sarah Lynn Milgram of Kansas. In addition, there are several felony firearms charges for discharging a firearm in the middle of a violent crime and for causing the death of an individual through the use of that firearm. Now, this investigation is continuing, and as you can see, we have most of the stakeholders here today who will be given an opportunity to speak with you. But what I want to be clear about today, since this is the first time you're hearing from me, is that this is a horrific crime, and these crimes are not going to be tolerated by me and by this office.
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Rodriguez could potentially face the death penalty? If convicted of either of the two counts, he could face also a minimum sentence of 30 years in prison and a maximum sentence of life behind bars as well. A lot of conversation about the potential death penalty. We're going to get into that in just a moment. Authorities in Chicago raided his apartment yesterday. Agents and officers in tactical gear carrying rifles and a ballistic-type shield were seen swarming the brick building around 9 a.m. yesterday morning. Images from Fox 32 Chicago show investigators on the scene for much of the day yesterday. The Metropolitan Police in D.C. said that it's increasing its presence at religious institutions across the city after this horrific crime. And also, according to an additional report, Rodriguez appeared to show no remorse for his actions. He, according to the report, fired several more times after the initial shots. Witnesses say that he had shot these two young people. He then walks back over and fires additional rounds into their body as they're lying on the ground. Police said the video shows a slim person wearing a blue jacket with a hood, a large dark colored backpack, blue pants and light colored shoes, which is consistent with the clothes that Rodriguez was wearing. You can then see a man walking toward the museum and then walking away from where this horrific crime took place. What do you think? Are you good with the death penalty here? Is this a crime that warrants the death penalty? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Speaking of the death penalty, a case in my home state of South Carolina, a death row inmate who killed his parents back in the late 1990s says that he's ready to drop all legal challenges to his death sentence. Basically asking the court to allow him to fire his attorney so that he can receive the sentence that the court gave him, death. He's ready to die. What do you think about that as well? Should the South Carolina courts allow this? Basically he's asking to represent himself. and to drop all appeals. Many of you are texting saying, look, when the death penalty is given, it should be quick. Shouldn't be months and years of appeals. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Your comments are welcome on the MyPillow text line. Always use promo code MikeG when you go to MyPillow.com, and you'll get the very best savings of all the products, the towels, the pillows, the Giza Dream Sheets, any size, any color, on sale right now for $49.98 when you use promo code MikeG. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike on this Friday before Memorial Day.
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The Mike Gallagher Show. Look, I get it. It doesn't matter who he is at a private dinner with a comedian. It matters who he is on the world stage. I'm just taking it as a positive that this person exists because everything I've ever not liked about him was, I swear to God, absent, at least on this night with this guy.
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Actually, Joey Hudson in for Mike on this Friday, heading into the Memorial weekend. Glad to have you. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join today's conversation. You know, parents should never have to worry about sending their children off to school, off to college campuses. But that's not always the case because, unfortunately, we're losing these young kids to hazing. There's an informative column that is in a popular newspaper in my home state of South Carolina, The Post and Courier, that addresses information that all parents and grandparents of college students need to be aware of. It's titled... New data show South Carolina's hazing problem is broader than you think. The column is written by Cindy Hipps and Elizabeth Allen. It reads, For South Carolinians, the name Tucker Hipps is synonymous with the fight against hazing. Tucker, a 19-year-old Clemson student and pledge at Sigma Phi Epsilon, died in September of 2014 after an early morning run with fraternity members and other pledges near the Clemson campus. His death and the subsequent activism were instrumental in the passage of the state's Tucker-Hipps Transparency Act, which basically says that schools have to publish on an easy-to-find website any incidents of a campus fraternity or sorority. Joining us today is Elizabeth Allen, one of the authors of this. Elizabeth is a professor of higher education at the University of Maine, where she leads the Hazing Prevention Research Lab. She's also principal at StopHazing.org, where she founded and currently leads the Hazing Prevention Consortium. Elizabeth, welcome. How are you?
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I'm fine. Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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Sure thing. Appreciate you spending a few minutes of your day with us. Let's start with a quick summary of what your organization, StopHazing.org, does.
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Yeah, so it's our mission to help prevent hazing in schools, colleges, universities, and other organizations. We take research and research. We translate it to practice, so we create resources, no-cost resources for colleges and universities, for high schools, and we create information for parents and the general public to use to be informed about hazing and to build skills and awareness for how to report it and prevent it.
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Yeah. In 2008... You were the lead investigator for the National Study of Student Hazing, the most comprehensive study of student hazing in the U.S. You're presently leading an effort to update the data, as I understand it. There's been a good bit of awareness since 2008, unfortunately, because we've had other incidents of death as a result of hazing. Do you believe things have improved on campuses around the country since you published your first data?
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Well, that's a great question, and that's going to be part of our study. You know, we're relaunching the national study next year, and that will help to provide a point of comparison to the 2008 data. I mean, so much has changed since 2008, of course, you know, in our world, and so it's really important to get some updated data out. I think, you know, as you mentioned, we've continued to see lives lost due to hazing. There have been more than 100 deaths since 2000. And those, I know, and those, you know, tragedies tend to make the headlines. But there are other forms of harm that happen from hazing that, you know, people never see or hear about. And so, you know, We want to update the data so we have a better picture of the nature and extent of hazing currently. And I think, you know, based on anecdotal data, based on the work that we do with colleges and universities, we still know that the problem is fairly widespread. And there are, you know, concerns about the harm that's happening. And it's not just in colleges and universities. It's in high schools as well and research areas. indicates it may be happening as early as middle school.
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Yeah. On our guest line today, Elizabeth Allen with StopHazing.org. Elizabeth, do other states have similar laws like the Tucker-Hipps Transparency Act? And how does this new federal law that was just passed in December, the Stop Campus Hazing Act, work in conjunction with the state laws?
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Yeah, so great question. There are currently nine states that require transparency, that have some kind of statute requiring colleges and universities to be transparent, to provide the public with information about hazing incidents, South Carolina being one of those states. And as you mentioned, the Stop Campus Hazing Act signed into law in December is going to require all colleges and universities across the country the nation to have a transparency report that's publicly available online in a prominent location on their website. So we will soon have information shared. And again, this is for documented hazing incidents that have been reported and found in violation. Sure. So, yeah.
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Go ahead. So, as I understand it, and I know how the Tucker-Hipps Transparency Act, how it operates in my home state of South Carolina, but both of these laws, they're focusing on reporting. But do you think that they're being effective, and are school officials taking action when they receive these reports? Yes.
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Well, I mean, first of all, you're right. They're based on reported incidents. And we know from the research that we've done that very, very few, you know, a very small percentage, less than 10% of incidents are actually reported by the students.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, so we're only seeing a small fraction. And then what happens after it's reported is difficult to know for sure. I think it really ranges based on what we know, you know, depending on the school policies, depending on the state laws, depending on whether or not a college or university has a protocol in place for how they deal with an incident when it's reported. And we're seeing, we're definitely seeing more colleges and universities taking action to be prepared and to inform their students about how to report a hazing incident, how they can do so anonymously, which is important, and, you know, what to expect from when they report and also being more transparent, as we talked about earlier, about what the results of the investigation was.
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Sure. Elizabeth Allen is with me today. You can go to her website, StopHazing.org, and see all the information. This is a real problem. If you have a child in school or if you're a grandchild in school, you need to be aware of this. You know, Elizabeth, most of this is focused on the Greek community on the campuses, but I was surprised to learn that it's not just the Greek organizations though. I mean, hazing occurs in other campus life as well.
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You're exactly right. And I think many more people need to learn that and to be aware of it. Because we found in the 2008 study that 55% of college students who participated in some kind of club team or organization had experienced hazing. And while, you know, many of those were in fraternities and sororities, not all. We found that hazing was happening in athletics. Of course, we've heard about that, but also in honor societies and performing arts groups, marching bands, acapella singing groups. We found still happening in club sports and intramural teams even.
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Elizabeth, I appreciate the work that you do and all these parents. It's sad to watch this. I've known Cindy and Gary Hipps for a long, long time. I knew Tucker Hipps from the time he was just a small child, and it's just been a sad, sad time for the Hipps family. But they've done a lot of work in educating parents so that they don't have to go through what they've gone through. In our final moment or so together, what is your advice to parents of children who may be looking at going off to college this fall?
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Yes, so first of all, I just want to acknowledge Cindy and Gary and all they've done in the wake of the tragedy and to raise awareness on this issue, to work to help support and lobby for the Stop Campus Hazing Act. I think, you know, building on their work, we are trying to get the word out to more parents. We have a blog post on our website. On our website on StopHazing.org, that is 10 tips for talking with your teen about hazing. And I think that's what's most important is to not delay the conversation, not assume that just because they're at a good school or they're going to a good place that hasn't had any incidents that you know of. Don't just assume that everything's going to be OK, but just be prepared and have a conversation and talk about what hazing might look like and what your student can do in terms of. their options for if they find themselves in a situation. And and I would really strongly encourage families to be informed of, you know, find out from their campus who the people are, where to go if they have a suspicion, because we know that students often talk with their friends and families about hazing situations when they don't report it officially.
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Sure. Elizabeth, again, I appreciate what you do. I'll be following your organization as you do update the data there. StopHazing.org, StopHazing.org. I hope you have a wonderful Memorial Weekend, Elizabeth.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you so much. You too. Appreciate it.
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Sure thing. Elizabeth Hand again. Go to our website, StopHazing.org, because you need to be aware. If you have a child who is in college or looking to go to college or university this fall, this is a real issue. And I had to... I had to watch my good friends, Cindy and Gary, as they lost Tucker in 2014 in just a totally unnecessary situation as he was a freshman at Clemson University, pledging and out for an early morning run and lost his life. because of this situation. And you never think that it's not going to happen to you because these other families, these other parents have thought the same. So StopHazing.org. Now, as you get ready to go into the Memorial Weekend, I need your help. Let me invite you. to join other listeners who've already made generous donations to our annual Angel Tree Camp Drive. We're sending children with a mom or dad in prison for a week of fresh air activities like swimming and horseback riding. Most importantly, though, and listen to me closely here, they hear the gospel. some of them for the very first time. Many of them accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior at an angel tree camp, and this is what we're trying to do. This is where I need your help. I need you to go to mikeonline.com, click on the banner, Make a Difference in the Lives of Prisoners' Children banners right across the top. You can't miss it. For just $200, you can send a child to summer camp. You and I have the power to change their future and really transform a child's life for eternity through this nonprofit prison fellowship. Steve Collins of Angel Tree Camp offers this reason why you should help a child that you will never meet.
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It was a good idea then when John Kennedy said it. It's a good idea now. And our friends at Job Creators Network have put this together. You can go to taxcutsnow.com. Let Congress hear from everybody. Taxcutsnow.com. Go to taxcutsnow.com. Our friends at Job Creators Network are on the case, and they're doing really yeoman's work. Taxcutsnow.com.
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Mike Gallagher.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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Welcome in on this Memorial Weekend Eve as we head into the weekend. Glad to have you join me. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can text me on the MyPillow text line. You can email me directly, joeyhudson.com. And like I always do when I sit in for Mike on Friday, Friday is always Free Speech Friday. Whatever's on your mind, I'm all ears. 800-655-6453. Boy, we've got a lot to cover today. We're learning more details about the horrific shooting of two Israeli embassy staffers outside of D.C.' 's capital Jewish museum. Officials saying that the suspect literally went back and fired additional rounds into the bodies lying on the ground after they were down. The Department of Homeland Security is eliminating the student visa program for Harvard University due to, quote, pro-terrorist conduct at campus protest. This in response to Harvard's refusal to comply with its request for behavioral records of student visa holders by the Trump administration. So they're going to make an example out of Harvard. And Harvard may be just the first. This may be the beginning of others. A death row inmate in my home state of South Carolina said, who was convicted of killing his parents, says he's ready to drop all legal challenges and be put to death. We'll talk a little about that as well. And White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt declared that the Democrat Party has never been so out of touch as they are now in reference to every single Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives voted against President Trump's big, beautiful bill this week. In a news conference yesterday, the White House press secretary came out swinging, if you will, and boy, did she take on the no votes. In cut number one, she said, and I quote, the Democrat Party has never been more radical and out of touch with the needs of the American people. Here's Caroline Leavitt.
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This One Big Beautiful Bill will implement President Trump's Make America Great Again agenda by delivering the largest tax cut in American history for middle-class families, the working class, and small businesses. The One Big Beautiful Bill fulfills President Trump's promises of no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, a made-in-America auto tax break, Trump savings accounts for newborn babies, and substantial tax cuts for our amazing seniors' Social Security benefits. The One Big Beautiful Bill will permanently secure the border by delivering the largest border security investment in history, funding at least 1 million annual removals of illegal aliens to carry out the largest deportation campaign ever, finishing the Trump border wall, and giving pay raises and bonuses for our incredible ICE and Border Patrol agents. The One Big Beautiful Bill protects the Medicaid program and its benefits for the most vulnerable Americans that the program was designed for by kicking off 1.4 million illegal aliens from receiving benefits and implementing common sense work requirements for abled-bodied Americans. The One Big Beautiful Bill also helps get our fiscal house in order by carrying out the largest deficit reduction in nearly 30 years with $1.6 trillion in mandatory savings. Every single Democrat in the House of Representatives who voted against all of these common sense and massively popular policies. The Democrat Party has never been more radical and out of touch with the needs of the American people. The one big beautiful bill is the final missing piece toward ushering the golden age of America.
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The House of Representatives, of course, voted in the very early morning hour yesterday. 215 to 214 passed by one vote. And some of you may are aware, of course, that one of those potential no votes was that of South Carolina Representative Ralph Norman. I spoke with Representative Norman earlier in the week when it was still uncertain as to how he was going to vote. He had voted no initially Friday a week ago, which sent it into the weekend uncertain. He voted present Sunday night. when the House leadership wanted to advance the bill on to the full House, he ended up a yes vote after President Trump and the Speaker and others sat down and they kind of talked through the process. Some of the objections that Representative Norman had was, of course, the fact that able-bodied adults can get Medicaid benefits without working. He feels like if they are able to work, they should be working. Illegals. He does not want illegals being able to benefit from Medicaid. And he had another list. I had a chance. He was on my local show on Newstalk 98.9 WORD, The Voice of the Carolinas, earlier this week. And here's what Representative Norman told me then.
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So what did I object to? Well, able-bodied Americans who choose not to work are included in Medicaid payments. Along with the able-bodied Americans, illegals are on the dole to get a government paycheck. I'm sorry, if you're not an American citizen, you do not need to get a federal government check, whether it's Medicaid or any of the other 20 agencies that give away our tax money. I will say this too, Joey, I'm not just so rigid. Let's say if they come up with a compromise. Let's say they want to pay the illegals and the able-bodied Americans for a year. I would look at that. But on the subsidies, it's like opening the dam up on money, again, that we don't have, that the private sector ought to be doing it. They don't need government help. And I'm just tired of continuing to say we're physically conservative, which we all campaign on, and don't back it up. And now's the time to back it up.
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That was Representative Ralph Norman earlier this week. Of course, he ended up voting yes, voting in favor of the big, beautiful bill. But at the time, a lot of people were saying, what's wrong with Ralph Norman? Why is he opposing the president's agenda? Ralph Norman was just fighting for things that he believes he's obligated to ask for because his constituents in the 5th District of South Carolina, they don't want people getting Medicaid benefits when they're able to work. They don't want illegals on Medicaid. And guess what? Representative Norman and others who are asking for these things, it's a process. It was a political process this week. Yes, it looked ugly at times, but they got these things. For example, under the legislation that passed, Medicaid work requirements will go into effect December of 2026. Not... in January of 2029 like the original bill had. I mean, if it's a given that people, able-bodied adults, should be working in order to get the benefits, if we all agree on that, why wait three, four, five years? And that's all I think Representative Norman was asking. Well, he got that. Because come December 31, 2026, if you're able to work, then you're going to have to have a job to get those benefits. States are also allowed, under the bill that passed, states are allowed to implement work requirements even sooner if they choose to. They don't have to wait until December of 2026. Again, the work requirements were a result of the holdouts like Ralph Norman, like Chip Roy, who said, you know, we've got to do better. The American people... They're tired of this type of thing. We have to do what's best for the people we represent. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. It is Free Speech Friday. Whatever's on your mind, I'm all ears. Joey Hudson in for Mike today. Now I'm not so sure.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you taking my call, Joey. A great show as usual. Thank you. I am anti-capital punishment.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I'm going to tell you why. I am 100% for capital punishment if it was done correctly. However, it's not. And you kind of supported what I was going to say by talking about the South Carolina where now he wants to change it. He wants to be put to death. He was incarcerated, what, back in the 1990s or so? That's right. What do we have, John Wayne Gacy? And when you're in there, do you understand that when you have the death penalty, You have rights to appeals and everything else. This drags on for decades. And while the decades are dragging on, we're paying tons of money, triple what it normally takes to put them in general confinement. And put them out with the general population. Let them deal with that. But keep them in for the rest of his life. But why are we going to cater to this guy and give him the best of the best? I say no. That's the only reason I'm against it. However, if they did it correctly and put him to death immediately, I'd be 100% for it, Joey.
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Yeah. So you're for capital punishment. You just think, like I do, that it shouldn't drag out for months and years, decades. I mean, we have some in South Carolina that have literally been in there for 10, 15, 20 years waiting for this to happen. But you're not opposed to capital punishment?
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No, sir. If it was done correctly, I say take him out.
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I agree, Don. I think we're on the same page there. Timothy is in Minneapolis. Welcome, Timothy.
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Yeah, hey, I just got to say first, I don't trust the justice system to determine whether or not somebody should die or not. There's been so many cases with that. Besides that, I would just like to state that that this death penalty thing, they put these criminals, these guys know they killed somebody or if they can actually prove, I mean, they really know for sure the guy killed somebody and it was heinous or premeditated or whatever this is. Those people are put in their company cell where most of the time it's privatized, and the judges make money off of putting these people in these prisons. That's another issue. But anyways, I say all these people that are on these death row, or these people that have done crimes against humanity, why is there not a rope hanging in their room with the chair? Why shouldn't they be taking their own life rather than having another man take their life? God didn't intend that, for a man to take another man's life. They should take their own life. And why are we trying to protect them from killing themselves? when they deserve to die and they want to die. Just put a rope in the room.
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Good question, Timothy. You know, I don't know. I don't know why. If you have someone on death row, why would they be on suicide watch? Good question. 800-655-6453. Heather is in, is it Arkansas? Yes. Hi, Heather. Welcome.
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Hi. I just wanted to comment. There was a lady that came on the radio that said that she was worried about making another person be a murderer. Okay, well, we already have people that are on death row that have murdered people, so I don't see why not just let them murder the next person in front of them if they've already murdered somebody before.
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Ah, so let them be in the firing squad, for example. Let them pull the trigger.
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They've already done it. I mean, clearly they're okay with it, so if they're okay with it and they already... committed it, then might as well let them take each other out.
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That's an interesting thought, Heather. Appreciate your phone call. Have a great Memorial weekend. You know, South Carolina, my home state, a year or so ago, maybe two years ago, up until then, you had two choices, the electric chair or injection, lethal injection. We added a third option, which is the firing squad. And we've had a couple who have chosen the firing squad now. The most recent one that was put to death, evidently the – and I think there are three shooters, but evidently they did not – it did not immediately pierce the person's heart. And so there's been an outcry of people saying, well, he didn't die immediately. I guess some of the witnesses there said that they heard him make some noises. Now, he died within a minute, but there's been people who complained about that, that the firing squad, that it wasn't instant. Now, my answer to that is this particular guy was on death row because he beat his girlfriend's parents to death with a baseball bat. I suspect... that they made some noises when he was beating them to death. And some of these people are a little concerned because this guy, it took him a minute, although I don't even think it was a minute. I think it was like 30 seconds or so. But there was a delay in his death, and they actually heard him make some noises because the bullet didn't pierce his heart immediately. I have no compassion for that. Back to the phones. Ben is in Missouri. Welcome, Ben.
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Hey, Mr. Joey, I appreciate you taking my call. Hey, I just want to make a couple of quick points. I went to prison years ago, and it was drug-related, some big mistakes. I was younger, and since then, gave my life back to God. I grew up in the church, and I'm fully clean and living a great life now, and I've got a successful business. Everything's great, and I owe that all to God. But I do want to tell you this. that maybe it's because I was a lower-level offender and it was drug-related and it was not due to murdering somebody, which I can't fathom. I can't fathom some of these grotesque, horrific things that people do. But I'll tell you this, and I've thought about this my time there and since being in, that I think the absolute worst thing... that we could do as a society is give people the ability to die when they should.
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Sorry, Ben, we're out of time. Appreciate your call, though. Appreciate you joining me on this Friday. Special thanks to the team, Eric and Kristen and Teresa. Mike will be back next week. Hope you have a wonderful, blessed Memorial Weekend. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike.
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Join Jody Heiss on this informative episode of Washington Watch, as we delve into the week's most pressing issues and legislative battles from our nation's capital. With House Republicans achieving a significant legislative win, we'll discuss the implications of this decision and what it means as the ball moves into the Senate's court. Listen in as Virginia Congressman Morgan Griffith provides insights from behind the scenes and how this could shape future policy.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Sitting in for Tony is today's host, Jody Heiss.
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Well, good afternoon. Welcome to this Friday edition of Washington Watch and the beginning of a Memorial Day weekend. I am Jody Heiss, a senior fellow here at the Family Research Council. So honored to have you on board with us. We've got a lot to bring your way today. Let me give you some of the highlights. As you probably have heard by now, House Republicans handed President Trump a major legislative win when they passed the one big, beautiful bill yesterday. Well, now the ball is all in the Senate's court.
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Our team is suiting up for discussions with the Senate side of Capitol Hill. The president, again, said this morning he hopes to see this bill at his desk as soon as possible, and he'll be engaged in the process to get it through the Senate, just like he was to get it through the House of Representatives.
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Well, that was White House Press Secretary Carolyn Leavitt yesterday. So what did it take to get to this point? And I get probably more important, what can we expect moving forward? Well, I'll be joined here in just a moment by Virginia Congressman Morgan Griffith. He happens to be the vice chairman of the House Rules Committee, and we'll discuss all of that. And then yesterday the U.S. Supreme Court was evenly split on a very important decision involving a religious charter school that was seeking to receive public funding. So what does this all mean for the case? Well, I'll be speaking about this with Michael Ferris, who's the general counsel for the National Religious Broadcasters, who also filed an amicus brief in that case. And then, catch this, the left, as we all know, well, they're perfectly fine with drag shows for a member of our militaries, but they are now up in arms because of prayer service that was offered. That took place at the Pentagon this week.
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Appealing to heaven, to God, is a long-standing tradition in our military. I'm very proud that we're starting a monthly voluntary service at the Pentagon. George Washington was on bended knee with the troops, praying for God's providence and protection in that moment. Chaplains and ministers and Christians and people of faith across generations have prayed because of the business that we're in.
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Wow. That was U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth responding yesterday to reporters who asked about the criticism that he's been receiving because of that prayer service. So I'll be discussing this a little bit later in the program when I'm joined by retired U.S. Air Force Officer David Mills. And then to close out the program and to close out the week, I'll be joined by David Claussen for our weekly Biblical Worldview segment. We've got a lot to discuss, including the deadly, tragic, and chilling shooting outside the Capital Jewish Museum Wednesday night.
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The tragic murder of these two Israeli embassy employees outside of the Capital Jewish Museum last night was both an act of terror and directed violence against the Jewish community. Make no mistake. This attack was targeted anti-Semitic violence and it won't be tolerated.
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That was Steve Jensen. He's the assistant director of the FBI's Washington field office, speaking yesterday. And we're going to discuss this and much more with David Claussen as we wrap up the program. So as always, we've got a lot coming your way. If you happen to miss any of it, our website, TonyPerkins.com. Lots of resources there available for you, as well as archives of many programs as well well as this one all right let's jump into the big news for today the big beautiful bill as you probably have heard by now it passed the house of representatives yesterday and now it's on its way to the senate but there are some senators some conservative members of the senate who have already flagged their intention to vote this current bill down at least in its current state so This suggests that this reconciliation bill is going to experience certainly some more tweaking in the Senate in the coming days. So what does that mean for the bill that the House of Representatives sent and that they spent literally all day and all night? Well, joining me now to discuss this is Congressman Morgan Griffith. He serves on several House committees, including the Rules Committee, where he serves as the vice chairman. He also serves on the important Energy and Commerce Committee. He represents the 9th Congressional District of Virginia. Congressman Griffith, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you, my friend.
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Great to see you as well. And I appreciate you so much and thank you for what you do.
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Well, you as well. In fact, I just saw you Monday evening, and you were, I think, could not imagine the week that was ahead of you at that. Well, I think you probably could imagine it, but it had to be an exhausting week for you. Tell us a little bit about the week. How did this go down?
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Well, it was an exhausting week. As you said, I was on Energy and Commerce. So last week we did the 26.5 hour hearing. Then this week, rules went in at one o'clock on Tuesday morning. I guess, excuse me, Wednesday morning, very early in the morning hours. And Democrats kept saying, why? Are you all coming in at 1 o'clock in the morning? And I told him, just straight up, said, because we know that you all want to talk a lot and talk about this bill a lot, and we won't have time to do it if we don't start at 1 o'clock in the morning. Well, sure enough... We went for 21, 22 hours, somewhere between 21 and 22 hours, listening to Democrats tell us how bad the bill was and how evil we were. And we got through it. All of us stayed committed and firm, and we listened to the testimony. That's part of what the legislative process is about. And then we passed the rules so that we could then move forward in the wee hours of Thursday to actually getting the rule passed and then the bill passed on the floor by one vote. And so it was a hard week, a tough week. There were changes being made right up until we got through the rule, but it was worth it. But I do think To my Senate colleagues, I would say, would I prefer the bill be a touch more conservative? Yes. Would a number of my friends in the Freedom Caucus want it to be a lot more conservative? Yes. But I think we must have hit pretty close to the sweet spot when you end up with a one vote margin. There's not a whole lot more that could have been done, so I welcome the Senate changing some things and sending it back to us, but just keep in touch with the House because we've got to have a bill that can pass, and if they send us something over and we lose four or five Republicans, we can't pass the bill, and none of the Democrats will vote for it. So we are walking a tightrope, but we're doing the best we can, and I believe this is about the best product that we can actually pass. Could it be a better bill? Sure. But it's about the best we can do with the circumstances that we have and the votes that we have.
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That's one thing I've always appreciated about you, Morgan, is your common sense wisdom that you bring to the table, and that's why you're on so many critical committees as well. So was there anything, I mean, you guys, 20 hours, was there any specific subject or provision within the bill that garnered so much attention, or was it just kind of the whole thing?
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Well, there were a couple of things that were repeating and consistent themes. Most of the complaints were we were going to devastate and destroy Medicaid. And the biggest thing that we did to Medicaid was in the Medicaid expansion program. And they're technically two different programs. But in the Medicaid expansion program, we say if you're able-bodied, if you don't have a young child, a disabled person, an elderly person who needs care in your home, We are going to expect you to be involved in your community. That is most likely work, and we refer to it sometimes as a work requirement, but it can be community service. It can be going back to school to improve your educational ability so that you can get a better job. It can be a drug treatment program. The idea is you get out there and you do something to improve your community's life and your life. And we think that's a reasonable request. And mind you, it's 80 hours a month. It's not even a full schedule. We're not saying 40 hours a week. We're saying 80 hours a month. And as you know, there's 4.33 weeks in a month. So it works out to 18.47 hours a week on average. And you can do daycare help out with a daycare, particularly if you have a child who needs daycare, you may be able to figure something out. What we have found over time, and most people know this, is if you're involved in your community in some positive way, you're going to be more self-aware of what's going on, and you're going to feel better about yourself, and you're likely to become a big-time contributing member of your community. So whether it be work, whether it be community service, whether it be improving your education, we think this is a reasonable requirement for able-bodied people who aren't taking care of somebody else who needs care. We think it's a reasonable request. but it brings a lot of people because they get jobs and because they do things, it gets them off of the public Medicaid expansion program and saves over 10 years, hundreds of billions of dollars. I think that's common sense.
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It is common sense, and that's why the vast majority of Americans support you on this. I mean, we're talking about work-capable people, and they don't need to be sitting at home taking funds from those who are out working. If they're capable of working, they need to be able to do so. I think it's very much common sense. So real quickly, after all the negotiations, all the markups, all the meetings, hour after hour after hour, what were some of the definitive victories in this bill that you and your colleagues in the Freedom Caucus and beyond that you feel good about? What are the victories? Lay them out for us.
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Well, one of the things we came through Energy and Commerce, we were hearing from some of the bureaucrats. I'm not going to say it was the top people. I don't know who it was, but they contacted our chairman, Brett Guthrie, and basically indicated that we couldn't start these community engagement or work requirements until like 2029. The conservative wing, particularly the Freedom Caucus, said, that's ridiculous. We can start this sooner. So we're actually going to start it December 31st, 2026. That's a win. That's a win. And it saves even more money. And then there's things that don't save that much money but are wins. We don't think that Medicaid and Medicaid expansion should pay, that's the taxpayers, for transgender surgery. That seems reasonable. The number's not huge on the savings on that. It is billions, but it's not hundreds of billions. It's a few billion. But if that's a decision that you make, There's lots of private organizations that will help you with it. But the taxpayer shouldn't have to pay for the transgender surgery. Now, the affirming care, if you've already had the surgery, you've got to have care the rest of your life if you have that kind of surgery. And so we're not saying that we wouldn't pay for helping out somebody who suddenly is on hard times that paid for their own surgery previously or has had the surgery previously and now needs the hormonal treatment, et cetera, that those folks need. But we're not paying for the surgery to start you down that pathway. And I think that was a win. There were other wins. There were some really big wins in energy. We got rid of most of the Green New Deal. And what we kept was nuclear subsidies or nuclear incentives to help us move our energy process forward. There were some real wins also in... making it easier to get through the bureaucratic morass in Washington if you're trying to build a new energy project. We created an insurance program. We'll see how that works. It's a pilot project so that you can create a new power plant based on nuclear wind, excuse me, not wind, but nuclear, coal, natural gas, so that that would help you move that energy sector forward and we were listening to elon musk yesterday unrelated uh that he was saying that we need to uh build a whole lot more energy if we're going to keep up with the chinese on ai he's absolutely right so we cut some of the red tape on that congressman morgan griffith of virginia vice chairman of the house rules committee and many other areas of leadership thank you for joining us on washington watch and i appreciate your insight so much have a great weekend
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You too. God bless you. God bless. All right, friends. By the way, speaking of this big, beautiful bill, we have an explainer of that bill on the Stand Firm app. You can get it by texting APP to 67742. All right. A big decision from the Supreme Court yesterday. A big one. We'll break it down for you right after the break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm your Friday host Jody Heiss and so glad to have you with us today. All right. Yesterday we had an extremely important decision. The U.S. Supreme Court was evenly split on a decision involving a religious charter school that was seeking to receive public funding. The decision was a 4-4 ruling, and therefore the Oklahoma State Supreme Court decision was upheld. So what does all this mean? What does it indicate for not only this case, but maybe other similar cases? What can we expect from the whole charter school, religious school movement going forward? We're here to discuss this is Aaron Smith. Aaron is the associate counsel at First Liberty Institute. which represents Oklahoma's Superintendent of Public Instruction, State Board of Education, and State Department of Education in this case. Erin, welcome to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 21 :
Thank you, Jody. I'm glad to be here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow, this is a huge case, and I think a lot of us are scratching our heads as to what does this all mean at this point. So let's kind of begin. What are the overall arguments for and against public funding of charter schools, and why is this particular case so divisive?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, so I think just to start, the argument for religious charter schools really is that parents deserve to choose what kind of school they want to send their children to. And that includes religious schools. And so the state of Oklahoma opened up public funding for charter schools and anyone could apply. But then the attorney general decided that religious schools should not be applying and would not be qualified to receive these state funds, which goes against what the Supreme Court has said about the United States Constitution and it allowing things like religious charter schools or allowing religious institutions to receive public funding when it's made available to all. The state of Oklahoma, in opposition to Saint Isidore, argues that Saint Isidore, the charter school, is a state actor and so it would be in violation of the Establishment Clause. which is an incorrect interpretation of the Establishment Clause. But we don't know how the Supreme Court would have ruled because they released that procuring opinion four to four. And so we don't even know who was on which side.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. So what does this mean? Is this, I would think, and I'm hearing people say that a four to four decision means more than likely this is going to come back to the Supreme Court at some point. Is that an accurate assessment, you think?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, absolutely. The fight really is far from over. The silver lining of the four to four ruling is that this limits the ruling to just being in Oklahoma. It doesn't speak to whether or not religious charter schools be valid in other states. And so we expect to see this exact same thing be right before the court very soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
So during that oral argument, I remember when all that was taking place and we reported on it at that point, but what were the justices' main concerns at that point? What did they need to hear to make them go one way or the other?
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, really, it seemed that their main focus really was are you treating this school differently because they're religious? And so we heard argument, and yes, that St. Isidore was being treated differently by the state of Oklahoma because it was religious. Now, our client understands the law and wanted to follow the Constitution in the way that the Supreme Court has interpreted it, but was stopped from doing so by the Oklahoma Supreme Court and the Attorney General.
SPEAKER 05 :
So doesn't this really, because that's my recollection too, and all the oral arguments were taking place. That's why I was kind of surprised at the 4-4 decision yesterday. Were you at all surprised by that, by the way? We were very surprised, yes. Yeah, I think most people were, and particularly when you look at it from the backdrop of the oral arguments and what seemed to be the biggest concern for the justices. Where does the whole discrimination argument come into this? I mean, like you mentioned, anyone could apply to be a charter school. This is something that provides an opportunity for parents to have yet another choice in education. And yet it seems as though only... religious schools are disallowed. Is that not discrimination?
SPEAKER 21 :
It is. And that's a very that's exactly right. It is discrimination simply because the charter school is religious. And so there's really there is no other explanation. St. Isidore is ready to give high quality education to students who don't have access to high quality education like the Catholic Church offers. And so they wanted to make that free to students across Oklahoma using an online school. character.
SPEAKER 05 :
So does this pull the plug on St. Isidore or just the public funding aspect of it?
SPEAKER 21 :
So St. Isidore would be allowed to operate as a private school should they choose to, should they have private donors lined up to fund them. But you're correct in that the Oklahoma Supreme Court decision does limit their ability to receive the charter school funding.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. On a broader perspective, why is this such an important case? What's the significance here?
SPEAKER 21 :
I think it's important because parents want to be able to send their kids to really good schools. And part of having really good schools is the opportunity to have choice. Choice between sending your kid to a public school, to a private school, to a charter school that uses these innovative teaching methods like St. Isidore wanted to do. And so ultimately, it really does come down to choice. Don't we want to live in a freer society? Don't we want to live somewhere where we can make those kinds of decisions and value our faith? And so that's really the bottom line is let's give people more access to education and more freedom to exercise their religious liberty.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I couldn't agree more. When you talk about, and we've only got about a minute or so left, but when you talk about probably this is going to come back to the Supreme Court, any way to anticipate what kind of timeframe, what would need to happen for the Supreme Court to revisit this?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I mean, it just, it depends as far as, you know, if there's a case already going on, if there's something in the works, you know, you would need a charter school, a religious charter school, and you would need the charter school to be told no or to get sued in some capacity. And so there's really no telling how long. It could be very quick and it could be a few years.
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Aaron Smith, I want to thank you so much. You're the associate counsel at First Liberty Institute, whom we love a great deal. And thank you so much for your incredible work. We are grateful for you coming on Washington Watch and breaking this extremely important case down for us. Happy Memorial Day weekend to you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Happy Memorial Day. Thank you.
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Thank you. All right, friends. Up next, the U.S. military is seeing a welcome return to humility before God. I'll be talking with Dave Mills of Men's Alliance regarding this in just a moment. So stay tuned. Much more coming your way.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Happy Memorial Day weekend to you. I'm your Friday host, Jody Heiss, and so honored to have you with us today. All right, the U.S. Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, he's been receiving an enormous amount of criticism for hosting a voluntary prayer service in the Pentagon this week. And, friends, just think of this. After all the social experimenting that we've been watching take place in the military in recent years, prayer is what's concerning those on the left? It just shows the enormous conflict of reality that these people are living in. Look, as we enter into Memorial Day weekend, I think it's important for us to remember and honor the memory of those who gave their lives for our freedom. Obviously, that's what Memorial Day is all about. But we would do well also to remind the critics out there that encouraging prayer in our military and encouraging prayer for our military is not something to be frowned on. And I would well imagine that my next guest is going to agree with me. Joining me now is David Mills. He's the founder and director of Men's Alliance after an enormous career in the Air Force. He punched out of the military. He has now become a missionary to men, if you will. His ministry is growing exponentially all across the country. as they literally come alongside churches and build up biblical masculinity. So, Dave, welcome to Washington Watch. It's an honor to have you.
SPEAKER 23 :
Thank you so much, Mr. Heiss. It's a pleasure to be here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you've got a world of experience in the military, retired lieutenant colonel in the Air Force, and I'm sure during your illustrious career that you saw a lot of changes in the military, in the leadership and so forth, and how those changes impact those in various ranks all along. But as we look within that context, is it encouraging to you now to see how Secretary Hegseth is not only welcoming military those with Christian faith but is literally embracing it.
SPEAKER 23 :
Absolutely. It makes me makes me wish I were still in. I wish that that I had the opportunity to serve under Secretary Hegseth. This is the exact kind of leadership that our country needs and that our military needs. And like you said, there's nothing at all controversial about this. We come from an entire historical lineage in this country of our commanders. bowing a knee to pray back to George Washington, of course. So I can't think of a better thing for the secretary of defense to do than to than to pause and to pray.
SPEAKER 05 :
I can't either. So what do you make of all the criticism that he's getting right now?
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, I think that a part of it is we've seen the pendulum swing so far, so absurdly far to the left over the past many years that now, even if it moves back an inch into the correct position. It's very alarming to people. I have people that I've talked to who are atheists. They are legitimately concerned about us as Christians mandating some sort of a national Christian religion. And that's, of course, so absurd, so far from anything that's happening in reality. But that's their concern. And we have to remind them, hey, listen. You live in a country founded. The last time I checked, our national motto was in God we trust. So hold on. Calm down. It's not anything to get upset about. This is just simply a man praying for wisdom. If you read if you read what the prayer was, right, it was praying for, you know, stability, right? for guidance, for protection and blessing. I think everyone is for these type of things. And it's absolutely great. It's encouraging to see our Secretary of Defense doing this. I hope he keeps it up.
SPEAKER 05 :
I do as well. So how is this impacting the morale? I mean, you have not only this with prayer, but he, Secretary and President Trump, they've drawn a clear line on the reality that men are men, women are women. If you want to serve in the military, you will do so according to your biological sex and so forth. How do all these things, common sense approaches, if you will, affect morale?
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, from from my perspective, from my position, this is a huge breath of fresh air. It's a return to common sense. It's like we've all been given permission to stop playing an absurd game that nobody wanted to play in the first place. And so many of the rank and file soldiers, sailors, sailors, airmen, Marines were going along with simply because, hey, I don't want to stand out. I want to, you know, do well in my job. But as soon as, you know, someone reveals at the top that that was absurd and we're going away from it, we're done with that, as he said. There's a huge collective sigh of relief as a nation and as a military that, honestly, thank God we are returning to some common sense morality.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Here we've got less than a minute. Tell us real quickly about the Men's Alliance and where people can find more info about it.
SPEAKER 23 :
Absolutely. Men's Alliance is a Christian men's movement of tribes of men across the country that meet weekly. Every tribe does a 30-minute outdoor workout, rain, shine, sleet or snow, followed by a real-world devotion around a fire. It's resonating with men because this is what we need. We need to be challenged to get off the sideline, back into the game. If you want to learn more, our listeners can go to mensalliancetribe.com. Find a tribe near you.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's awesome. Thank you so much, Dave Mills, founder and director.
SPEAKER 23 :
Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it.
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Founder and director of Men's Alliance. Great job. Appreciate you joining us. All right, coming up next, I'll be joined by another David. This time, David Claussen will be joining me to recap this week's news from our Biblical Worldview segment. It's coming your way on the other side of the break. Stay tuned.
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Well, no doubt there is no shortage in the news. We've got a lot to talk about, everything from President Trump's big, beautiful bill that passed the House this week to the tragedy in the nation's capital. There have been so many stories this week that need reflection from a biblical perspective. And speaking of the big, beautiful bill, let me just say this. I mentioned it earlier, but I want to come back to this. If you want to know more about what's in this, it's a budget reconciliation bill, which is kind of complicated. But if you want to know more of what's in it, we have an explainer. It's available for you exclusively on FRC's StandFirm app. And if you don't have the app, that's the only place you can get this explainer. Simply text APP to 67742, and you'll be able to get just a great explainer to go through what this big, beautiful bill is all about. And look, I've had people texting me all week saying, what's in this thing? What's in it? In fact, I was in the meeting with the Freedom Caucus Monday of this week, and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on this. But then after the meeting on Monday, there were meetings all night long, night after night. And when all was said and done, there was so much more involved than I even am aware of. Thus, the importance of having something to explain it to you is important. So get the app and find out for yourself. Again, text APP, A-P-P. to 677-42. All right, as we conclude the program, as we conclude the week, it's always good, and I love to look back on the headlines of the week and try to consider at least as much as we can from a biblical worldview perspective. And joining me now to do that again is David Claussen. He's the director here at the Center for Biblical Worldview. at the family research council he's also author of the recently released book life after row equipping christians in the fight for life today david thank you again for joining us a lot to cover that's right happy friday great to be with you again jody Well, thank you so much. Okay, let me start with this because FRC has been so heavily involved in this. Our Government Affairs Division and so many others, recent weeks, have been so heavily involved. in trying to help gain momentum to defund Planned Parenthood in the big, beautiful bill, which passed the House. It's amazing how this got through. So tell us, David, let's start with this issue. How should Christians think about this news, and what do you think is next for it as this bill moves forward now to the Senate?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Jody, I think Christians across the country should be actually very encouraged. This big, beautiful bill, as the president likes to put it, does a lot of what the president campaigned on, making those 2017 tax cuts permanent, no taxes on tips or overtime pay, funding the border wall. So these are all things that the president and congressional Republicans campaigned on. And that just... Take that by itself. That's encouraging that folks are trying to do what they campaigned on. But specifically for Christians, defunding big abortion, defunding Planned Parenthood, this is something, again, that Republicans have run on campaign cycle after campaign cycle. And for whatever reason, it hasn't been done. But you and I have talked about this is the best chance in the last 10 years for this to happen. And as of now, this bill that passed the House did indeed remove that funding. It's just remarkable, Jody, that Planned Parenthood received almost $800 million. And of course, Planned Parenthood is going to be quick to say that none of that money is used to do abortion. But of course, we all know that money is fungible. And so, again, I think as Christians, we should be really excited. By the way, Planned Parenthood's annual report just came out, and in the last year, they did 402,000 abortions. Again, as Christians, we are the people that believe all people, born and unborn, are made in God's image, have inherent value and dignity. And so, again, I think as Christians, we should be thrilled and be praying that when this bill is taken up by the Senate, that these hard-fought provisions in the House version are going to be seen in the final text of the bill.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think it's going to be extremely hard to pass in the House if the Senate brings it back without that. But we'll see. And it's not just Planned Parenthood. It's abortion providers from that perspective. But then there's more than the abortion side of defunding. There's the transgender surgeries as well. Tell us about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, this is encouraging, Jody. And so there is a provision that prohibits kind of Affordable Care Act. So think Obamacare health plans from covering not just abortion, but the so-called gender affirming care. So think surgeries, think hormone treatments, specifically through Medicaid. And I think I read somewhere earlier, it was a White House official said that it's upwards of 25 percent of so-called gender-affirming care comes through Medicaid. And again, as Christians, we want to think primarily as biblically-minded Christians, we know that That it's important to stand for truth. We know that God created humanity, male and female. This created order is not arbitrary. It's a reflection of God's good design. And we want our laws to be in coherence with the truth. And, you know, just thinking on a practical level, we know that folks who undergo these treatments, many of them later experience deep regret or The promises of these surgeries and treatments are often overstated. They're often contradicted, honestly, by long-term studies. And so I think it's just very good to see the bill drawing a line that government should not be in the business of subsidizing treatments that are physically damaging and spiritually misleading.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. You know, it's interesting to me, David, too, that these two major subjects are also subjects right here within the roof of FRC. We have people who have written books that have been recently released, yours being one on abortion, life after Roe. And then we have Dr. Jennifer Bowens and Walt Heyer who just released their book this week dealing with the transgender issue. And all these things make a difference. It is a voice going out, a voice of truth, of biblical truth going into the public square. And again, I just say thank you. And if they were on with us, I would thank them as well for incredible work. that's leading the way on so many fronts here coming out of FRC and right into the public square. And we're deeply grateful. If I can, David, let's stay within the neighborhood, if I can put it that way, D.C. Well, I think we were all rocked just a couple of days ago as a tragedy struck right here in D.C., the murder of two Israeli embassy workers. It appears that the attack was motivated by an anti-Semitic radical. We've had these discussions before, David, but let's jump on it again. How do Christians need to be thinking about anti-Semitism?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we need to be, as Christians, we need to be the clearest voice in the room to say that anti-Semitism is pure evil, full stop. This is absolutely wicked. And you're right, Jody, this kind of hatred runs deep. whether it is Pharaoh ordering the killing of Jewish boys, whether it's Haman plotting a genocide, whether it's Hitler and the Holocaust, the Jewish people have been targeted again and again And this is an alarming trend. You go back to October the 7th with the Hamas terrorist attack. You know, it's not just this incident here in D.C., though. You know, I'm thinking when Benjamin Netanyahu came last summer, July 24th, to give a speech to Congress to kind of bring the United States up to date on what they were doing to push back against Hamas. If you remember this, Jody, Twenty one Democrat senators boycotted that speech. Seventy one Democrat congressmen and women boycotted that speech. And you had thousands of protesters. The American flag was torn down at Union Station. Jody, I actually left the building here at FRC and went down to observe some of those protests. And it was some of the most heinous incidents. evil I think I can ever recall seeing, hearing those people's cheer, you know, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. And evidently, the witnesses of the attack we're talking about, this alleged gunman, that's exactly what he was cheering and chanting. And so this is evil. This is wicked. Christians ought to be the first people to stand with our Jewish brothers and sisters and to affirm their dignity and to say that anti-Semitism has no room and no home. It shouldn't in this country.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'm glad you went back to some of the history of it. I mean, this goes way back. Ancient hatred goes back, as you just referenced, a couple of different biblical examples. And it's been ever since then all the way up to the present. And we've got to take a stand on this. David, if I can, I know our clock is ticking away, but another big issue happened this week here in D.C. at the Supreme Court and the decision on the case that originated out of Kansas. It was a four to four tie. Justice Amy Coney Barrett recused herself, and as a result, the lower court decision stands, and this is involving a Catholic church charter school. So this would have been the first religious, as I understand it, charter school in the country, but the court's decision now says the lower court decision stands, which says they cannot receive public funding. Talk to us about this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Jody, I think you summarized it very well. This would have been – so again, they're in the state of Kansas – a proposed Catholic virtual charter school. It would have been the first publicly funded religious charter school in the nation. My understanding is that Justice Barrett had some connections with some of the lawyers representing the school. So that's why she recused herself. But what that means is that the state Supreme Court, their decision stands. And so I think it's worth noting that the court did not rule on the merits. It's very likely that this question will present itself again. And hopefully Amy Coney Barrett would be that deciding fifth vote in favor because it's I think it's worth noting this decision did not set a national precedent, but I think it does highlight these unresolved tensions that we see between religious liberty and the public university system and how education is funded. There's been several cases in recent years, and I think we've all actually been pretty encouraged that most of these cases have gone on this, the justices, the majority of them at least, have sided with with conservative religious parents or folks that kind of have that perspective. The court has other opportunities this term to weigh in on some really important religious liberty issues. Think about the issue related from Tennessee, the religious parents in Montgomery County. Those are, of course, different issues. But I do think it'll be only a matter of time, Jody, before this particular question, because, again, this really is about viewpoint discrimination, in my view. Why can religious institutions be the only group that can't charter a public school? That doesn't seem like it's fair. And so my expectation is that the court will revisit this sometime in the near future.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you're not the only one who feels that way, but very, very interesting. David, we've only got a couple of minutes, and as we close, I've just learned something that I was not aware of previously, but you have actually introduced a resolution for the Southern Baptist Convention on chemical abortion. Can you tell us about your resolution and what you're hoping to do with it? I understand that Convention of Southern Baptists is going to be taking place here in just a couple of weeks. So tell us about this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Jody, I'm really excited. I submitted a resolution titled On the Medical Dangers and Moral Evils of Chemical Abortion. We know that over 60 percent of abortions that take place in this country are these chemical abortion pills. This two pill regimen that was initially approved 25 years ago in the outgoing months of the Clinton administration. And I think it's important for us to say that even though Roe has been overturned, and we're all so grateful for this, these pills are being shipped all over the country. Even states that have strong pro-life laws, because, frankly, the Comstock Act isn't being enforced. You can have liberal abortion doctors in California or Illinois and New York and mail these pills across state lines here. even into states that have pro-life bills. And so, yeah, every year the Southern Baptist Convention meets for its annual meeting, and it'll pass anywhere from six to ten resolutions. And a resolution is simply kind of an official statement that expresses kind of the collective opinion or conviction of the messengers. That's what If you go representing your church, you're called a messenger. So most of them are pastors, but lay people as well. And these resolutions speak to issues of theological, moral, cultural, or political concern. They're non-binding, but they are important. They do guide the Southern Baptist Convention's public engagement. They inform denominational leaders. They're pedagogical in the sense that they help pastors and leaders think through these issues. And so my hope is that When you submit a resolution, it goes to the resolutions committee and they decide what the committee will actually vote on. So again, the Southern Baptist Convention has voted on a lot of pro-life resolutions over the years, but the largest Protestant denomination has never voted specifically on a resolution that deals solely with chemical abortion. And this is in the news, Jody. We know that RFK Jr. has indicated that the FDA is going to kind of go back and review the original approval of this. And so my hope is that we'll have an opportunity in a couple weeks in Dallas to speak very clearly and, Lord willing, be even an encouragement to the administration that this is the right thing to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's fantastic. Are you going to be a messenger, by the way? Will you be there? I will be there representing my church. Good. Outstanding. Thank you so much, David Claussen. Always, always an honor to have you here to give us a biblical worldview perspective. And of course, David Claussen is the director of our Center for Biblical Worldview here at the Family Research Council. Hope you have a fantastic weekend. All right, friends, that wraps up another week. Hope you also have a tremendous Memorial Day weekend. God bless you. Keep the torch ablaze. We'll see you next week here on Washington Watch.
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And now your host, Logan Sekula. Welcome to Sekula. We have a packed show today for your Friday before Memorial Day. Will Haynes is joining me in studio. Mike Pompeo will be on later. Harry Hutchinson's going to be on. Rick Rennell's going to be on. So we are packing this full of content so you have enough information, again, heading into your weekend. There's obviously been a lot of news right now, but of course, one of the ones we want to talk about right off the bat is that Harvard has once again sued the Trump administration, this time over the ban on allowing new foreign students to be a part of Harvard's student body. Now look, I think there's gonna be a lot of conversation. We're gonna really break it down with Professor Hutchinson, whether we even think this is something they should be allowed to do, whether we think this is a good thing, a bad thing, but in general, what it certainly is is another moment where the Trump administration is being sued by Harvard because of the fact that they have told Harvard, we're going to start revoking these things until you get the anti-Semitism under control on campus.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. So this is under the... the program, the Student and Exchange Visitor Program, which a university has to be certified for through the Department of Homeland Security and ICE in order to enroll students on student visas. So these are non-citizens that are coming to the United States for university programs or even employment programs, so it could even be professors, but it's the Student Exchange and Visitor Program. And Kristi Noem sent a letter, To Harvard yesterday, making them aware that they are now decertified. And what this means in practicality is that they cannot enroll any new students on student visas. But also, existing aliens on F or J non-immigrant status must transfer to another university in order to maintain that visa. And they are saying that this goes back to even April when the Department of Homeland Security asked for multiple... things under looking into the anti-Semitism on campus, the safe environment that they're promoting on campus, and that Harvard was not complying. And then they even multiple times asked for this information again pertaining to non-immigrant students enrolled at Harvard, including information regarding to misconduct and other offenses that would render these students inadmissible or removable. They didn't comply. They had multiple opportunities to. And as a consequence, Harvard has now been decertified by the Department of Homeland Security. But the DHS also gave an opportunity for them to get recertified before the next academic year by complying with a list of information within 72 hours. Harvard has decided to sue. Instead of complying with the federal government of turning over information on individuals that are here that may have been conducting nefarious activities on a student visa, Harvard has decided to just sue the administration to try to block this instead of trying to help the administration root out bad actors.
SPEAKER 03 :
Phone lines are open. I want to hear from you. What do you think about this? Again, another lawsuit coming in. Of course, this is coming on the heels of that brutal assassination incident. of the couple in Washington, D.C. And I have been disgusted by so many of the comments that I've seen, by so many of the videos I've seen posted of people justifying this act of violence, this act of murder, this act of anti-Semitism, this act that is happening on the streets of America. I mean, it's shocking. I'm sitting there, you know, kind of jaw-dropping every time another video shows up in my feed, another comment that I see of someone who's just sharing their support, the DMs that I've received for posting my horror of what's been happening in our own streets. We're going to play some clips also from the conversations that have been going on on the left media. You've seen some MSNBC commentary. That is unbelievable. Very hard to watch. CNN. We're going to be talking about that coming up. 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the air. 1-800-684-3110. As you be kind to our phone screeners. In our next segment, Harry Hutchinson is going to be joining us. We're going to break down the legalities of this. Because look, just because we like it doesn't necessarily mean it's legal. So let's talk about what that looks like. Coming up. And a lot of you are just joining us. We need to restate what's going on, and that is that Harvard is suing the Trump administration for the Trump plan to revoke any additional international students and faculty and staff from joining Harvard. Of course, this comes because they said that they have not given them sufficient enough information to show that they are protecting the Jewish students on campus. There's a lot of legalities, whether this can happen, whether this can't happen, regardless if you like it or not. There is some breaking news in that a judge just paused. The Trump administration's move to halt Harvard student visa program amid the university lawsuit that just came out from Fox News just a couple minutes ago. So even while we're in break, we're updating you what's going on. So, of course, you have another judge coming in, doing what the judges have been doing and now blocking. Harry Hutchinson is joining us. Harry, I think we need to be nuanced here. I think we need to be talking about it because it's not just about what we like, what we hear. Sure, they're going to be blocking. They're standing up for the Jewish students, for the students that feel like they're being persecuted, feel like they are being attacked on campuses. And of course, this comes on the heels of that assassination. But I do think we need to talk about the legality and where's really the road for this.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think that's a brilliant question. So I think the real issue here is that the Department of Homeland Security, in their letter blocking Harvard's participation in this student exchange program, They went too far. So if you read it carefully, it says the DHS is essentially excluding Harvard. Why? Because of an unsafe environment that is hostile to Jewish students. that Harvard promotes a pro-Hamas sympathy on campus and employs DEI diversity, equity, and inclusion policies. So I think the latter part of the DHS letter has simply gone too far. And so what does that do? It means that the good parts of the DHS letter with respect to protecting Jewish students can be safely ignored by a sympathetic district court judge and I think that is precisely what has happened here.
SPEAKER 09 :
And so we did just get this order granting the plaintiff's motion for a temporary restraining order. Remember this revocation letter went out last night from the Department of Homeland Security Harvard filed their lawsuit this morning, and they already got the TRO from the judge. I think maybe you can read into some of that, what is in their complaint, particularly maybe saying they don't like policies that don't have to do with national security, yet they're The Department of Homeland Security is taking away this. It does raise the question of something that we fight against here very often of viewpoint discrimination. If it is based off of them not liking a viewpoint discrimination, taking away something that has been given to them could be seen as retaliatory and unconstitutional in that sense. manner but you also have on the same side of this that what you brought up that much of it has to do with them trying to get information about the violation of civil rights of american students that are jewish on campus at harvard and the federal government has a responsibility to weigh in when the civil rights of students are being violated under many sections of u.s code So when you look at this, Professor Hutchison, there is a, on the one hand, it can be a First Amendment free speech argument by the plaintiff here, but also the civil rights violations, also you can punish a university that is not protecting Jewish students. Being pro-Hamas isn't just being pro-liberal or pro-political ideology that you disagree with. Being pro-Hamas is being pro-foreign designated terrorist organization, and it also leads to the kind of violence that we saw, sadly, just less than 48 hours ago in Washington, D.C., where two members of the diplomatic staff of Israel were murdered senselessly in the streets of DC.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think you framed your question perfectly. So I think protecting the civil rights of Jewish students at Harvard should be a paramount consideration for the Department of Homeland Security. Protecting national security should be a paramount consideration. However, with respect to diversity, equity, and inclusion policies, we can argue that they are harmful, but they are not necessarily a national security threat. So, by including that statement in its letter, I think the Department of Homeland Security has provided a basis for a judge to intervene And if you look at the history of judicial intervention against the Trump administration, approximately two-thirds of all district court injunctions in U.S. history have been issued against Donald Trump and his administration. So I think it was a mistake—this is just my opinion— uh by the department of homeland security to include that language because that provided a basis for judicial intervention and that's really what we look at i'm seeing some of the comments going well why can't you guys rewrite it can you get involved can you do something because
SPEAKER 03 :
Our team does think a little bit differently. And look, I'm sure putting in some of those buzzwords from a marketing point of view is a good idea. But when it comes down to the law, sometimes decisions need to be made that are important. So actual movement can happen. And like you said, you don't fall into some trap. You don't go and make these broad statements because they sound good. But then when it comes down to, again, what is legal and what is not legal, which is what we're talking about here. Again, even if you agree or disagree with it, how the judicial system works, they'll step in it and have some issues.
SPEAKER 09 :
I do want to respond to a comment on Rumble that said they are not pro-Hamas. They are for a free Palestine. There is a huge difference. That's what we seek to debunk. just about every time we talk about this issue on this broadcast.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can say the same about the guy who murdered the people in the streets. You know, technically he didn't say, yay Hamas. He said free Palestine and then murdered two people and then lied about it. You know, tried to seek comfort until he had to fess up. This is what's happening. Again, you're right that we are trying to show that there isn't much of a difference here, that it all comes from the same source. Now, it doesn't mean we don't feel for the people in Gaza. Doesn't mean we don't Support the humanitarian relief that I think they need. Absolutely. But there is a systemic problem with that area of the world that has. And look, that's not like me saying something that is a verifiable truth for the thousands of years. But really, more recently, you could say even the last hundred years or so.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I think that if this individual really wants to hear more about that, go watch yesterday's broadcast. It's on Rumble, on YouTube, plenty of places to find it. And you'll hear a larger discussion about how what is happening on those campuses is not a free Palestine movement. It is a pro-Hamas movement. The leadership of Hamas are celebrating it on media.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look who's paying for these protests. Look who's praying for them to happen. If you, yeah, you may say that individual student doesn't really understand. And look, I think largely that's true because I meet and talk with a lot of people and I'm always trying to have open minded conversations. Even with some people yesterday who were telling me, you know, you understand though, it They didn't kill them because they were Jewish. They go through all these things. They're killed because they worked for a country that they feel is wrong. They're resistance fighters. I have to put my brain aside for a second to not just want to jump through my phone when I'm talking to people. But I do try to break it down. I do try to go to the next level of that conversation because usually it falls apart very quickly because they don't really know because what they're being fed is talking points. They're going to these protests and they don't even know what they're protesting and they certainly don't know who is funding it. And if they do know who's funding it, then that's a bigger issue. And that's some of the things that the Trump administration maybe should be looking at and talking about in this is the funding because a lot of this is coming from a place like the Muslim Brotherhood who are actually funding the protests on these college campuses.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think that that is precisely correct. And I think that that is basically an object lesson for the Trump administration. Focus on the real enemy, the real target. And with respect to this specific letter by DHS, the real enemy, the real target is anti-Jewish conduct on the campus of Harvard. That's where the DHS should focus its ammunition.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was going to add to that as well. If you look back at the history of things like the Muslim Student Association and things that are student groups on university campuses, they were directly funded in the American branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. So if you want to start talking about the broader real issue, it is a lot of foreign funding from radical groups They don't just target the United States writ large. They go to the universities and they target the students. So this individual can say that they're for Palestine, not for Hamas. But reality is we know a lot about the history. We've been studying it and working with it for a very long time. And that is the truth of the matter.
SPEAKER 03 :
You may not want to admit that to yourself. Look, I see the comments. I see the comments right now. I know it. I know what you actually believe or you think you believe. It's all conspiratorial. It's all... Blood libel. It's all things that have been part of the conversation of being Jewish in this country for a very long time, but also around the world. You can see how this all creeped up under 100 years ago. I can feel it for the first time in my life in the last few years. I can tell you in the last few weeks, it's even gotten worse. The last 48 hours, it's gotten to me the worst. Because again, you're seeing justification of murder on the streets. Now we're going to keep this conversation going, but we're also going to talk a bit with, we have a weekend. This week is Memorial Day weekend. We want to make sure we don't forget that as well. So we're going to talk to Mike Pompeo coming up in the next segment. And Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us a little bit later. I would love to hear from you. We have a full bank open right now. You can give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are open for you. I'd love to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. That's once again, 1-800-684-3110. We are joined in this segment by Senior Counsel for Global Affairs, Mike Pompeo, Secretary Pompeo. There's been a lot going on. Obviously, we're talking about the anti-Semitism that's happened on the streets now. We knew it was happening on the streets of America, but now it's escalated, obviously, in the last 48 hours. You're from Kansas. So was Sarah, one of the two Israeli diplomats. was murdered in washington dc i even saw videos of her dealing with anti-semitism a decade ago in her high school where it had been graffiti had happened with swastikas and a lot of profane anti-semitic remarks um what are your thoughts though on this i mean it's a horrific story we all know that but how should we be addressing this now um a threat that i think a lot of us knew was there that maybe wanted to not believe that was going to come to our streets as much as, look, I mean, I have a son and we're planning his bar mitzvah. One of the first conversations we had to have was about security because we know the rhetoric has gotten so aggressive and the justification has gotten even as aggressive. And that's what I've seen the last 48 hours, last 24 hours is how quickly, again, unlike October 7th, which maybe took two weeks until they started blaming Israel, this took about a day before the bloodshed was now justified.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, this is really a sad event for the families, certainly for all Kansans and every American. But it's something that the United States has to deal with. The challenge becomes, this is really too big for police forces. They clearly weren't able to protect these people. But this is so deeply embedded. This group of people hates Kansans. Jews so much and they have been allowed to metastasize on our campuses. They've been allowed to grow their institutional frameworks. They've had backing from people here in the United States and from elsewhere. This is something that is going to a strategic response is going to have to take place across the country that has an educational component. It shouldn't be just you educating your children about risk to them. It should be all of us educating every child about the fact that anti-Semitism is radically unacceptable. And that this idea somehow that you can morph being pro-Palestinian into being anti-Jewish, you can so degrade the value of human life in this way. And you're fighting for this cause that I'll bet this murderer would have been hard pressed to even articulate clearly. Fighting for this cause justifies violence at any level, let alone murder, something that we have to stamp out and punish. And it begins with our campuses and extends to every place in America. We have to stamp out any notion that there is a valid space for violence connected to whatever it is you call it, the pro-Gaza movement or the pro-Palestinian movement. It's just simply unacceptable.
SPEAKER 03 :
Secretary Pompeo, I feel the same, and I've tried to keep my cool when I'm talking to a lot of my friends who are maybe on the other side of the Israel-Gaza situation. And what I quickly realized is if I push them one step outside of the headline... They usually have no idea what they're talking about. They have no information. They don't know who even the major players are. All they're doing is puppeting What they're seeing, parenting, seeing what they're seeing on these college campuses or in the Instagram short posts they've seen. They're doing no research. They have no clue about the actual conflict. They've never been there, unlike all of us. And until you've been there, I do think it's hard to be a commentator. Let's say you can comment. That's fine. But have you seen that? I've seen that as well, which is their arguments fall apart so fast just because they're uninformed.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. No, that's it. They're uninformed. It's not that they're stupid. They're ignorant. And then you add their ignorance to the fact that many of them don't value human life. They've come to be radicalized in that way. And so we we sometimes think, oh, let's make a logical argument for them. Let's just be rational. And they'll come to see that they don't want to hear it because it's too complicated. It's too hard. Israel, bad. Palestine, good is all they know. And so we That's the responsibility of all of us, including the faculty members that have actually advocated for this. They should be held accountable, too. When crazy stuff comes out of the United Nations, like this storyline from, I guess it was just last week, that there were 14,000 children are going to starve tomorrow. mean this is this is this is not connected to reality right this is anti-factual and that's where this has to begin with education data and facts and then we can reduce their ignorance and i think when we do that we will reduce the number of people who advocate for the destruction of israel and the the abolition of the jewish people which is what this murderer was advocating for
SPEAKER 09 :
And when you take this even back to the academic world as the Trump administration and during the previous Trump administration tried to push back on anti-Semitism in the United States in the way that these institutions allow it so rampantly to grow beyond just speech. This isn't a speech issue. This is about encampments and taking over and intimidation and violation of civil rights of Jewish students. who politically may be with the very people that are protesting them on many of the issues. They're at elite liberal universities. I mean, that's some of the odd irony here. But the way that the universities have pushed back at every step with, even now, this Department of Homeland Security was trying to cooperate with Harvard, trying to get information about some of the foreign students that were participating in this and they stonewall, stonewall, stonewall and then file a lawsuit. How can the Trump administration or anyone try to work with these very entrenched universities when all they do is stonewall and file lawsuits to block them?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, I've seen what this administration is trying to do. I applaud their efforts. I think they've got it right. There will have to be real costs imposed on these institutions before they're going to do the necessary. And the necessary is exactly what you described. We're not asking you to banish these ideas from your campuses. We're asking you to ask these students to conform the way you ask every student to conform. You can't threaten. You can't occupy a building. You can't take away the ability of any student, including a Jewish student's right to move across campus. These are things that are unacceptable. No other movement would be permitted to do that. And yet somehow this Palestinian cause had its own exception for all the things that are decent and right. And so the Trump administration has to be direct. It has to make clear the expectations and it has to hold the university leadership
SPEAKER 03 :
and the university faculty accountable for the harm that they are doing to the united states and the risk that they're creating to the jewish students on their campuses it shows the amazing work you were able to do with the abraham accords but also how quickly all of that could fall apart how quickly an administration that doesn't understand what they were doing uh can destroy that now obviously things have to be brought back up but we obviously thank you for your efforts and that was one of the The best moments for me to see all of that come together. But we also are heading into Memorial Day weekend before we wrap up. You wrote a new article on ACLJ.org called Keeping Faith with America's Fallen Heroes. It really puts everything in good perspective. But what's your message for our listeners as we head into this weekend talking about those who continue to preserve our liberties and our freedoms?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, you know, I think one of the great things about America is that we don't ever forget. And we have this special day, Memorial Day, but we do this pretty well. I just ask to make sure that this next generation doesn't forget how much sacrifice there was from so many people, how many folks lost their lives or were injured or had loved ones sacrifice their lives. This is a this is a common thing, a unity, a united purpose for America, a strong, capable American military supported by the American people, supporting the human beings that decide to wear the uniform and those who are working on behalf of the United States government to keep us safe. We should keep them in our minds not only on Monday of this week while we're all out having some fun, but every day as well. It's more than just saying thank you. It's about doing the things that help them and their families continue to lead successful lives and to remember all the sacrifice that they made for us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you so much for joining us, Secretary Pompeo. Read his article and more at ACLJ.org. We're going to be back with the second half hour. If you don't get us on your local station, find us broadcasting live right now on ACLJ.org, Facebook, YouTube, Rumble. We're there. And later on, archive to however you get your podcasts. But again, go to ACLJ.org. We'll be right back with more. So stay tuned.
SPEAKER 10 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to Sekulow. We've had a packed show. Will Haynes joining me in the studio. We've already had Harry Hutchinson on. We already had on Secretary Mike Pompeo. But now we're going to continue this discussion. We've got to reset a little bit for those of you who are just joining us in the second half hour who don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about Harvard once again. throw the lawsuit at the Trump administration because the Trump administration said, hey, you haven't done enough to secure the safety of your Jewish students due to all the protests, the anti-Israel protests that are happening on campus. Therefore, we're going to start revoking things, including allowing students and faculty from outside of this country to be a part of Harvard. Now, Harvard sued back. We discussed whether we thought, you go back, you should listen to the segment we did with Professor Hutchinson because we break down whether we think that this is Not necessarily whether we agree with it or disagree with it, but whether this is legal or not. We've already have a judge that has stepped in and said, no, pause. You can't do this. You can't revoke their access. No shocker here, Will, as those judges have always gotten involved in Trump situations.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. There is a temporary restraining order that was granted for the plaintiff. So right now they cannot move forward with implementing the revocation of the status or decertifying of Harvard. But there is a hearing date now for May 27th. So early next week. On Tuesday, the judge, just after the holiday, will have a first hearing about this. And in that, they will hear really what the government side is, why the members of Harvard and their legal team believe that this isn't legal for them to do. And we'll go from there. But right, all of a sudden, you have an order last night. A lawsuit filed this morning and very quickly that temporary restraining order. Now, this is a different situation than like a nationwide injunction because this is a very specific policy and there is a very specific plaintiff that has the alleged harm here and that is Harvard. So it's not... Even this this temporary restraining order isn't you cannot do anything to any university in the United States. So even that case about the universal nationwide injunctions that the Supreme Court's hearing wouldn't have an effect over this type of temporary restraining order because it is specific to this case and it is in the district court for the District of Massachusetts. so that's a place that we are familiar with as we have a suit up there as well that just survived a first attempt of a motion to dismiss by the state of massachusetts but we're still in court up there as well yeah absolutely not necessarily always the most friendly court to those with christian or conservative values but you know we'll see where it heads for the trump administration and of course that's because harvard is right there look
SPEAKER 03 :
We've only got about a minute and a half left till we go to the next segment. We're going to take some of your calls coming up actually a little earlier than usual. We'll take them in the next segment because I think you also need to hear. We want to share an ACLJ victory. So you're going to be excited to hear this one. Let's talk about that in the next segment. We'll bring it up. But so stay tuned. You're going to like this one. This one, again, sometimes these victories happen very quick. This is one of those ones. You may have heard about it earlier this week and we were able to resolve it and get it. handled and getting handled so quickly. And you're going to enjoy this is why you support the work of the ACLJ. It's why you donate. It's why you give when you can. It's why you become an ACLJ champion, because when you do that, we're able to mobilize our team so quickly. A lot of times our clients, we don't have to get it to court. Because they get so scared, shaken in their boots when they get a letter, a demand letter, with our headler, you know, with our top of our paper that says the American Center for Law and Justice. Letterhead.
SPEAKER 01 :
Letterhead. That's the word I was looking for. Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I'm just talking ahead of myself there. Letterhead. A-C-L-J, letterhead. They see it and they start shaking in their boots. And they cave immediately. It happens a lot. Sometimes it's a little disappointing. You want to go to court. You want to do the job. But you know what? It's great for our clients. So we're going to talk about that when we come back. It's a little positive news. But we're also going to show you what is happening on our media right now. It's why we have to create alternative media like we do here at Seculo. Because when you see this, when you hear the way they're talking about this shooting, this horrible assassination that happened, you are not going to believe it. So those who are standing up for this, those that are actually being good advocates like us and other broadcasters, give them their props because that is not what's popular right now. But a lot of them know the truth. A couple phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. You've heard about the amazing work the ACLJ continues to do, whether that's in Israel, Europe, or anywhere else in the world, of course, here in America. You can be a part of that at ACLJ.org. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. I do want to take some calls coming up in this segment, so stay on hold. We'll get to you. But, Will, I think what's important, we've got to talk about, let's bring a little happiness to this, a little bit of lightheartedness to it, because, look, it wasn't lighthearted to begin with, but we have an ACLJ win. Of course, you remember just a couple days ago, we had the child of special needs, 12-year-old, who was handing out Bible verses, and you had members of the team there, of her school, not only confiscating them. So you can't do this. You can't hand out little sheets of paper with a Bible verse on it, encouraging hope, encouraging love and all of those kind of good messages. But they lied to her and said, Oh, we'll take these from you. Special needs child, child with special needs. We'll distribute it to people when they're feeling sad. So don't worry, you don't have to do this. We're going to take care of it. And of course, then when they find out that she was just banned from doing it, they didn't want to tell her that to her face. But again, The ACLJ sprung into action. They reached out. We got connected. We were ready to go to court if necessary. Of course, you usually start a lot of these things with just a simple letter saying, you know what? This is what your staff did. Here's why it's illegal. You have a certain amount of time to fix this problem or else we go to court. Again, it's not always the most fun way to do it, but a lot of times what your client wants to do. It's what your client wants to do because, look, they have to live in this community. They'd rather get over with quickly, not something that gets drawn out for years and years and years. And often now, because of established law, because of the prestige of the ACLJ, we're able to get these taken care of very quickly. That doesn't mean we don't have to have the best of the best and we can't have the best of the best without you. But, Will, that's precisely what happened here. They caved. Again, they get your letterhead from the ACLJ. They get an email from the team. They start shaking in their boots. And immediately they reverse the decision.
SPEAKER 09 :
So in this as well, sometimes it also takes shining the light on what's happening at one of the schools. And the letter didn't go to the principal. It goes to the school district. to say, hey, here's what's going on. You need some oversight here as well. You better fix this or else we're going to court. But the school district received the demand letter and already has responded back that yes, the school district understood what the client's constitutional rights are and stood in response to protect her right to share her faith and will assure the ACLJ and our client, the teacher and principal who violated this girl's rights were made aware of the girl's rights and that going forward, the school district would protect religious freedom in their schools. Because remember, the principal also tried to argue that bringing any sort of material of any sort that wasn't approved was policy, so therefore no religious material were allowed on campus. There were so many constitutional violations from this principal and this teacher that it was hard to count. But the district did the right thing. They understood from the ACLJ and I'm pretty certain that some of them were probably a little shocked at what happened in and of itself. This isn't Portland, Oregon. This was in Texas.
SPEAKER 03 :
We got it handled very quickly and I appreciate all of your thoughts, all your prayers, all your support financially or even just your prayers. They mean a lot. Or even just sharing that story. Because the more attention we can get to these stories, sometimes the quicker they can get handled. Let's go ahead and take some phone calls. I'd like to go to Carol who is calling watching on rumble online for Carol. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Uh, the argument is that free Palestine doesn't equate to Hamas, anti-Semites, anti-Semitism. I understand that the Palestinians chance from the river to the sea being an eradication of the Jews. Since the Palestinians believe the Jews are occupying their land, why wouldn't, quote, free Palestine equate to anti-Semitism?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, of course it does, Carol. Of course, that's what that really means. Our American brains maybe don't understand the way it's intrinsically built into the education systems, what's happening there, whether that's in their faith or whether that is in just the way people are taught. It's unfortunate and sad, but it can't just be that easy. The two-state solution concept is nice on paper, but as we've seen time and time again, it's not possible. And it's not possible because you have one country in Israel that for decades was okay with trying the idea, and then you have another that says, no, not until we have everything, not until we have all of Jerusalem, not until we have taken all of your land and eradicated your people. And as you said that it's hard to find that area between, look, I think you can be, you complain about your government. There's plenty of people in Israel that are not happy with Benjamin Netanyahu. That's just like America here. There's plenty of people that don't like Donald Trump or didn't like Joe Biden. It's not any different, just much smaller. However, When you're trying to make that, it's like we try to Americanize all of it. When you try to Americanize the way you think, it's not how it works there. It's not how it works in the Middle East when it's so small, it's so tight. But I think we actually should hear the conversation that happened on MSNBC, I believe, or CNN. CNN. I'm sorry. It's usually MSNBC. On CNN, where this kind of rhetoric comes up, where you're like, certainly you're not saying that people that are against Israel are anti-Semitic. I'm saying this to someone who is Jewish. was a witness to the murder the cold-blooded assassination and of course this is also you're hearing from a from sarah sidner from cnn so you'll hear her voice first and then if you're just listening and then from jonathan epstein who is a witness go ahead
SPEAKER 04 :
You said you looked the shooter in the eyes. Can you give us any sense of what you saw in him as he was sort of getting help and people were tending to him as if he too was a victim of seeing this?
SPEAKER 08 :
What I saw in his eyes, I mean, I went to Columbia for grad school and I saw the same thing in his eyes as I saw in the eyes of all the protesters at Columbia. Nothing different between him and them.
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but they did not create this horrific shooting they did not you know sort of um they didn't shoot they created they gave permission they gave the permission and they've called for this they have called for intifada revolution which is the same thing he yelled last night Do you worry that there will be a conflation, though, of the two, those people who are speaking their mind, who really care about what is happening in Gaza, and those people who are like this person who did this horrific shooting, who intend to do harm?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, they are calling for intifada. At Columbia University, they call for intifada constantly. They're not quietly. They're loud. They're loud. You can hear it. They make recordings of themselves. So what's the difference? Are you afraid? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Are you afraid? Speaking how a lot of us are feeling right now. I couldn't agree with him more. It's exactly the emotion that a lot of us are going through right now. When you see cold blood and murder on the streets of people because of their background, because of their ethnicity, because of, you know, they may say it's because they work for the state of Israel. But again, those two things are intrinsically combined. When she says you worry about them being conflated, it is the same. They are being, we've already conflated the fact that Israel, the only Jewish state in the world that's allowed to exist is to where people can be there and practice, by the way, not only Judaism, any faith, have any preferences that they want personally. It's a lot different than anywhere else in the Middle East, but they, of course, are the enemy to all these people. And of course, you're saying, of course, you don't see the same thing. What did you see in his eyes? What you saw in his eyes? The same thing you do see in the eyes of these students. And a lot of times, not just the students, because some of the students, I think, are just horribly informed, but it's the leadership.
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Well, and just this journalist at CNN asking, like, are you worried there'll be a conflation? This is a person who just witnessed a hate crime against a targeted killing against people because they're Jewish. And he is Jewish and was a witness to this. And the journalist is saying, are you worried that people conflate what this guy did with those calling for Intifada on campus? And also the fact that they've so whitewashed the term Intifada as if it just means something passive. Intifada was violent terrorism against Israel from Palestinians. It was a wave and campaign of terrorism. so when you're calling for terrorism like do you really get to nuance and say no we're calling for theoretical terrorism not literal terrorism so I don't want you to conflate what we're calling for here we're calling for theoretical genocide not a literal genocide so don't conflate what we're doing here these two are different no words mean things and you can't have it both ways and say are you concerned victim here that they're gonna conflate what people are saying about you at your university with what this person did no because they're saying the same thing there you go we got a minute and a half let's quickly take uh michael who's calling on line one michael you're on the air
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I love your passion. Keep it up, brother. But the comment I wanted to make, Logan, is you were talking about all the friends you have who don't read past the headlines and don't get the background. The problem is, is the indictment of the public school system has taught them for years upon years of what to think, not how to think, not how to take a topic and look into the background of it and do the homework and read and understand.
SPEAKER 03 :
what's going on they just have fed them pablum for so long and this is how you're supposed to think not teach them how to think and this is how what you get when you don't have people who use the god-given brain that we have michael a hundred percent that is what's happening look look he's even when we talk about that win we just had in the aclj where that special needs students was handing out bible verses and essentially got lied to shut down and banned but we're able to go in there and say hey remember the law that little thing Yeah, you can't do that. And a lot of times they cave. And they cave because of people like us. We can't stop having these kind of conversations, Michael. And you are absolutely right. Support the work of the ACLJ. We're trying to educate. We don't put anything behind a paywall because of those kind of comments. Everything's available for free, but it can't be without your support. So go to ACLJ.org. to Sekulow. I need to jump to this call really quickly. Let's go to Lisa who's calling in California. Lisa, you're going to be our last call of the day. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi, I just want to suggest that we not control this hateful behavior. We need to eradicate it. We need to get rid of it. It has no place in this country at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Lisa, a lot of people feel that way and a lot of people I feel like on the left have been saying that. Maybe too much, honestly. Because, of course, their version of it is quite different. Their version of it doesn't necessarily mean, it usually means everything but Jewish people. Usually means everything besides anti-Semitism. You can't tolerate anything that conservatives have to say. You can't tolerate any of that. But the only thing we can tolerate is hate speech towards one very specific group of people. And I want to give you a bit of a background. For those who want to educate your friends and family, this is a piece that our team put together right after the October 7th attack. And this is called The Myth of Palestine. Take a look.
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The myth of Palestine is a dangerous and false narrative being perpetuated by those who seek to harm the Jewish people.
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This narrative intentionally overlooks the thousands of years of history and the rightful ownership of the land by the Jewish people. It ignores the repeated attempts by Israel to make peace and the ongoing attacks and aggression from terrorist organizations like Hamas. We must not be deceived by this attempt to erase the Jewish people from their homeland. Following is the true history of Israel and the so-called Palestine. We begin with Israel beginning in 1800 BC. Abraham heard the call of God and followed it to the land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River, the Promised Land. Shortly after, the Egyptians enslaved nearly all of the Israelites, and it wasn't until 500 years later that their descendants were able to return to the Promised Land. From then on, this region had a long history of conquest and power struggles, with Jerusalem at the center. From the time of King David's role in 1004 BC to the Roman conquest in 63 BC, the city endured numerous shifts in power and the destruction and rebuilding of temples. 70 years later, the Romans drove nearly all Jews out of Israel, forcing them to scatter across the world. It wasn't until circa AD 136 the name Palestine first appeared after the Romans named part of Judea, Syria, Palestina to erase the Jewish presence in the land. Throughout the ensuing centuries, the region of Jerusalem continued to be subject to numerous conquests. In AD 638, Arab Muslims took control. Centuries later, Christian crusaders claimed the city, only to be defeated by Saladin, the Muslim sultan of Egypt and Syria in AD 1187. The region then fell under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, Turks, in AD 1517, until 400 years later, when during the Great War in 1917, the British Empire conquered the region. The British made a public pledge, the Balfour Declaration, which aimed to establish a national home for the Jewish people in the area still known by the Roman name Palestine. Then in 1922, four years after the war ended, the League of Nations created the Mandate for Palestine to reconstitute a national home for the Jewish people. The region was redrawn into what is now modern-day Israel, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. Only 22% was left to create the Jewish state. Then, just over a decade later, from 1933 to 1945, the Nazi Party took power in Germany and massacred almost two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population. Six million Jews. After World War II in 1947, the United Nations adopted the Partition Resolution, a two-state solution to create another Arab state and a Jewish state in the remaining Mandate Territory reserved for the Jews. In order to have peace with their Arab neighbors, the Jews accepted, but the Arabs rejected it and invaded Israel, which began the Arab-Israeli War of 1948. No state of Palestine was created. The state of Israel was. Over the following decades, the Middle East was marked by ongoing conflicts between Israel and its Arab neighbors. In 1964, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, also known as the PLO, was founded, whose ultimate goal was the destruction of Israel. In 1967, the Six-Day War was waged by surrounding Arab countries. That's when the West Bank and the Gaza Strip became a part of Israel. Then, the 1973 attack on Yom Kippur began. In 1987, the terrorist organization Hamas was founded by members of the Muslim Brotherhood. That same year, Hamas began waging jihad, holy war, during the first Intifada against Israel in order to wipe out all Jews. Between 1993 and 1995, Israel and the PLO made agreements for a peaceful resolution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. These agreements granted self-governance to the Arab populations of the Gaza Strip and West Bank in exchange for peace with Israel. Instead of peace, militants from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank continued their attacks against Israel. From 2000 to 2005, the Palestinians began a wave of terrorist attacks called the Second Intifada. Remember what this means, the eradication of Jews. So in 2005, yet another attempt to achieve peace was made, and Israel left Gaza even though Gaza is a rightful part of Israel. In 2012, the UN General Assembly agreed to change the PLO's membership status at the UN from an observer organization to that of a non-member state with observer status. Observers generally have a limited ability to participate in the IGO, lacking the ability to vote or propose resolutions. Then, on October 7, 2023, the world was shaken by the horrific actions of Hamas as they launched a vicious attack on Israel. The death toll rose to over 1,300 innocent lives, including men, women, children, the elderly, and even infants. The atrocities committed by the attackers were unspeakable. Women were raped, dead bodies were desecrated, and over 240 people were taken hostage. What history clearly illustrates is that Israel did not steal any land from the Palestinians. In fact, there has never been a state of Palestine. The Romans gave the name to the area that includes modern-day Israel, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. This land was stolen from the Jewish people, just as it had been for millennia before. Learn more at aclj.org forward slash defend Israel.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm glad you were able to watch that and be part of our conversation. And if you want to share that with your friends, it's available on all our social media platforms. Go to YouTube and just find it on our YouTube channel. You could share that with maybe your friends who don't understand the backstory, the history of everything. And it goes beyond biblical. Obviously, there's the biblical start we go through, which we believe. For those that are not believers, for those that are not religious, whether they're Jewish, Christian, or even Muslim, they may go, well, I don't believe in any of this. Well, we gave you the historical evidence, the historical proof of what's actually going on. The attacks on our faith, the attacks on the people of Israel, we know they're continuing, and we need your help. We've only got 30 seconds left in this show today, and that's for the week. Of course, we know a lot of you are going to have a holiday week, so we'll probably be talking to most of you again on Tuesday. But we are there. On Monday, we are filing a legal submission to the UN Human Rights Council in defense of Israel. So again, while a lot of you are on vacation, a lot of you taking a break, our ACLJ legal team is not stopping. So I encourage you right now, become an ACLJ champion if you can at any level at ACLJ.org. We'll talk to you next week.