Join Angie Austin and author Tom Smith as they continue the discussion on how significant life challenges can transform personal faith and relationships. Tom opens up about his personal tragedies and how they reinforced his connection with his faith-based community. This episode explores the themes of perseverance, healing, and hope, focusing not only on the tragedies of loss but also the profound acts of kindness and unexpected support he encountered along the way. Tom's journey stands as a testament to the strength of the human spirit and the comforting presence of community and faith in overcoming monumental loss.
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welcome to the good news with angie austin now with the good news here's angie hey angie austin and tom smith we are joining each other again because tom was on the program and tom was talking to me about his book the three o'clock calls which he will briefly describe to you again and i said tom i have to have you back So here he is a week later, and he is back because I wanted to know what happened to his life after the 3 o'clock calls. And so I wanted to know how the Lord showed up for him after really the three worst calls of his life. Welcome back, Tom Smith.
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Oh, it's great to be back, and thank you for having me, Angie.
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All right, so the 3 o'clock calls in a nutshell, and I don't know how we can even say this in a nutshell because I was just on with another author, and I'm like, you've got to hear Tom Smith's interview. I said he was on for the entire show, and whenever you get a call 3 o'clock in the morning, nothing good comes from a 3 o'clock call. Tom got a call about his father, about his daughter, and about his nephew. And in all three of them, they ended in the call was about a tragedy. So give us a brief synopsis of those. But what I really want to talk about today was not the horror of the three o'clock calls. I want to talk about how the Lord showed up for you after these horrible losses in your life.
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Absolutely. Absolutely, Angie. And, yeah, just, you know, we discussed last week basically, you know, nothing good comes from a 3 o'clock call, and I think we can all agree to that. And so as we spoke through that, you know, I'd mentioned that, you know, we took three calls at 3 o'clock, and my book was originally going to be titled Our Last Conversations because that's what it almost amounted to. But we decided, you know, everybody would kind of know what that title meant right away. And so the 3 o'clock calls, You know, we've all had them. And so I take the readers through three characters near and dear to my life and my heart and my family. And I write in third person. And so as I'm describing these loved ones, the reader really don't understand the relationship Tom has with George, Danielle, and Kayla, which I'll reveal in Chapter 10, that relationship. And I'm sorry, not Kayla, Blake. Okay. George is and was my father, and he died tragically as an alcoholic and had committed murder. And my dear 19-year-old daughter, Danielle, coming home from college, and she never made it home, and we spoke about that. A lot more detail there for the reader. And then Blake was my nephew, who absolutely was a wonderful kid in his early 20s, and he also worked hard. for me at our place of work as well and uh we talked about his tragic murder uh that happened here just recently and as we endured and went through that trial with my sister and uh we finally got uh justice through you know the the criminal justice system here in florida and uh that was uh handed out on october i mean of august of 2024 and and then we was able to write the book and get it out finish it i finished the book in the courtroom during that trial, and we were able to get it out December of 2024.
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And, you know, your daughter died in an accident. Your father had issues with alcohol, and that's the drinking led to the death of the person that you're talking about regarding your father being a murderer. And then your nephew was trying to break up a fight when he was shot and killed. And so in all these instances, you know, you think, how can anyone even get through anything like this without faith? And so the point of the book really was for you to explain to people how the Lord can help you through really the worst nightmares of your life.
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That's right. And that's right, Angie. And so I hope that when an individual reads this book, and Angie, my hope was that when I wrote this book and shared this story, it's 40,000 words, 10 chapters, and most readers read it in anywhere from an hour and a half to three hours. Easy read. And my hope was that when somebody read this book, that the first thing they would think about is, oh, my gosh, I know who I need to pass this on to. I know who this book may encourage or may give some direction or some guidance. And so that was the hope in sharing this story. And we certainly didn't want to come across preachy or judgmental. We're all sharing life together, Angie, and we live in a broken world that if you haven't experienced some type of tragedy in your life, possibility that you will eventually because of the broken world we live in. And so I thought, well, you know, I'm going to share these, and then I want to share with the reader in Chapter 10 that, yes, All these people were family members, and yes, I am grieving, and yes, it's hurtful, and yes, it's painful, and yes, you go into a bad place at times, but there's hope. There's hope on the other side, and there's hope that I have in my faith, and there's hope that I have in my community of believers outside of my immediate family. And so that's what I was hoping to share as we were able to distribute this book.
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Yeah, I am. I was so encouraged by you when we discussed this last week. I thought, you know, what a perfect opportunity to have you come back and talk about what happened after these calls. Now, your father, that was a troubled relationship. You said he started drinking very young because your father's father made moonshine. And so your father became an alcoholic when he was 12. Yeah.
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Yes. And, you know, and so there we have to live through addiction and violence, domestic violence. And I'm telling you, that's traumatizing as a small child. I still picture that to this day. And, you know, the laws wasn't in place to help that that battered spouse like it is nowadays. But my mother thought that she could change my father and his addiction was too strong and it didn't happen. And he was a very mean individual when he was drinking. It just changed him. And so we suffered through that. But the perseverance of not giving up on my father, Angie, I said, Lord. I've been praying for a long time. I prayed when I was a kid, when my mother was getting beat up. I prayed when I was a teenager. I prayed in my young adulthood and in my 60s, and I was praying. And I said, Lord, do you hear our prayers? Am I even heard? And you start questioning these things because, as we know, it's never our timing. It's the Lord's timing. And as I shared, Angie, three days before he took his last breath in the We were able to share Christ with them through the Roman roads of taking them through that salvation process of what that looks like and being able to hear my father with a tear in his eye say, yes, I do accept the Lord as my Lord and Savior, and I do want to be forgiven for my troubled life. And, son, if I had to do it all over again, I would do it differently. And he was very remorseful, very sincere person. And my father accepted Christ, you know, with a few days to live. I mean, I don't know how you could cut it any closer, Angie.
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Now, after, you know, your daughter is a freshman, after she passed, you have one other daughter. After your daughter passed, how do you even get through that? I mean, I know you have a very strong church community, that you live in the South, that you are a man of faith. I just don't even know how you leave the house. Seriously, I don't even know how you function on a day-to-day basis after that happens.
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So it was very difficult. And Angie, you know that we live in this world that's broken and people are broken. And the Bible says that we are to be kind and love and respect one another. And and you know the atmosphere of the world now. It's just a difficult day, and it's difficult even more when you lose a loved one. You know, you blank out the world, and now you're dealing with just your own personal misery. And I recall that, you know, when Danielle passed, I think I might have shared it with you, just touched on it. We had to do all the things that parents never even think about, and that's to make funeral arrangements, you know, for the celebration of life, for her going home. When you just said that, Tom, I hate to interrupt.
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When you just said that, I remembered my brother was murdered, and I remember when you said we had to make funeral arrangements. He was cremated, and I just remember my stomach sank a little bit when you said what no parent wants to do to make funeral arrangements. It is painful to lose a brother. I can't even imagine. You know I've got a girl heading off to college. I know. And I can't even wrap my head around. Just even thinking about you losing her, I want to burst into tears. My eyes are welling up. When you say you have to make funeral arrangements, I don't even know how you make the calls. I don't know how you stand up. I don't know how you walk out the door. Did you feel like God was with you? Did you feel a sense of strength? Or were you just like... feeling like you were in the middle of the ocean trying to tread water and each wave kept coming over and you didn't know how you were going to make it to the next day?
SPEAKER 01 :
All those are great questions. And yes, yes, yes to all of them. And here's the thing. So I shared with you that, you know, we are a faith-based family and we attend a church on a regular basis. And, you know, you don't have to have church in your life to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. You know, you don't have to, but you're missing out on, you know, so much. of the joy and the growth and the love that you can have with a faith-based community. And so that church, our congregation, our brothers and sisters, come alongside of us, and they lifted us up, and they ministered to us, and they loved on us, you know, when everybody else was kind of busy and going back their own way. And that was so important at that time to have other people within our church community and family just pouring out their love and encouragement and helping us through it. It has to soon go back and go back to their own life. But we go to church with these people on a regular basis and every Sunday, you know, and we just kind of gained our strength through the love of the church, through the support of our pastors, and obviously our Lord Jesus Christ and our Savior.
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Mm-hmm.
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But, you know, you ask something, and when you're making these arrangements, you don't know how. Pastors, if you think about it, pastors have to deal with a lot of funerals and weddings, and that's what they do. And so he was able to guide us through a lot of that through the support of our church, and pastors are constantly, you know, having to deal with loss. And so that was a great support system, and that's another, you know, advantage to a situation like that a church brings. Yeah. So as we're making those arrangements and we buy our plots, I went ahead and bought mine and my wife's and Danielle's, and we were just going to put Danielle right in between us, and we bought these three plots because we were going to do a traditional burial. Kayla says, which, you know, was her younger sister, our youngest daughter, about eight years younger. She was 12. She goes, Daddy, what about my lot? And we said, Kayla, you're going to be married one day and probably be buried with your family. And she couldn't understand it. She was crying, couldn't believe she wasn't going to be with her family. So guess what we did? We went in there and bought another lot. And so I said, we'll have our whole family here. And then fast forward, fast forward years later. Her cousin Blake gets shot, gets killed. And I shared with the readers and on the show that it's just my sister and I. We had two children, Danielle and Kayla, and Tanya had three children. And Blake is the one that got murdered. And my sister is going through the same tragedy of understanding what just happened. She don't know where to start. She don't know what to do and don't even know where she's going to put Blake. And my little daughter of mine, Kayla, said, Aunt Tanya, Blake can have my lot. And so now she's married, and she's got her own child, and she lives in Pensacola, Florida, about six hours from us from Jacksonville. And she gave her Aunt Tanya the lot, and now Blake is buried right beside Danielle.
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Right beside Danielle. Tom, we're going to take a break. I just am so touched by your daughter's heart and how she gave that lot to her cousin. And I just who would have ever thought that it would work out that way, that you and your sister would lose children, would be end up being buried right next to each other. I'll be right back.
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Hello there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News. We are speaking with Tom Smith, his book, The Three O'Clock Calls, the three calls he received to tell him about his father dying, his freshman and college daughter, Danielle, dying in an accident, and then his nephew breaking up a fight. He was shot and killed, and they just finished with the court case. He finished the book while he was sitting there. in court finishing that up. And I said, you know, these three o'clock calls that you never want to get, they all ended in tragedy. But, you know, how did you get through this? And you were just talking about how your youngest daughter wanted a plot when Danielle, your freshman in college, died. and that how then when your nephew was recently killed, she said, Daddy, I know he doesn't have a place to be buried, and so I want to give him my plot. So now your sister's son and your daughter are buried next to each other. Just the heart of your daughter, too, said, you know, just without even thinking, Daddy, I want to give him my plot so he has a place to lay to rest. It just touches my heart.
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Yes. It was, you know, the Lord's had his hand in every step of it, and I wish I could do justice on our discussions, but I really do share the details in the book. There's so many ways, Angie, that you don't see it when you're going through these tragedies, but after the fact, as you pull back, a lot of us will say, God, where are you? Where are you in all of this? He's there the whole time. It's just that we're filled with anger and grief and grief. We sometimes just don't see it. And when we slowly step back from it and we slowly let the grief take its process, that's when we see that God was with us every step of the way and he was leaning into us as much as we want to lean into him. And that part right there with that plot, you know, that was no doubt. You know, a miraculous act of God that we did that because we was able to, you know, provide that plot to Kayla and Kayla then in turn could give it to her aunt to have a place to put Blake in.
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My goodness. All right. Now, as you're starting to, you know, write, you know, do speaking engagements, do these podcasts. What kind of response are you getting from people, or are people asking you for advice on how to deal with their grief? Because I'm sure a lot of people go into a dark place with these kinds of losses, and they just don't know how to get out.
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You know, you're exactly right. You know, I'm not shy about putting my personal email in the back of the book. And, you know, I'm just a regular person. You know, I'm not a pastor or a preacher, but I do have a good understanding, you know, in some of these tragedies. And everybody... It goes through tragedies and grieves in different ways, but you're exactly right. I do have a lot of emails that come to me and say, Tom, I read your book, and this is what we're going through. And you hopefully are not getting a lot of responses from people losing their children because that's just not normal. And there's a pile of people that have lost their children, but the most response – The majority of the responses that I receive is from like what happened with my father. It's people reaching out that their parents or their children has an addiction of some type. And that addiction is just something that's been so difficult to deal with. And some of it's led to tragedy and some of it's just led to separation. And so we get into a discussion about that, of the support. And do they have a church? and to have anybody ministering to them. You can wear your immediate and extended family out, but what's your outside support? What does it look like that you're getting encouraged and built up on a weekly basis? And, you know, we talk about, Angie, I think I mentioned to you about Facebook the last time we talked, and everybody has social media and Facebook, and they say, oh, look at my Facebook friends. I've got 2,500 friends. Well, you probably only know a handful, and they're not really deep friends. They're pretty much just shallow people that you know, and people are putting their best part of their life on there for about three to ten seconds. and then really you don't have that relationship that you think you have. But I call my friends at church, church book friends, CB friends, because those people are real. I'm touching those people, you know, every Sunday, Wednesdays when we go. And then those are people that I can call at 2 in the morning or 3 in the morning and say, I've just had a situation. Will you pray for me or can you meet me here? And I've got dozens and dozens of people that will do that. And so I say that to say, you know, Why not look and go find a church and just say, look, I'm here. I want to make some friends. I want to get with like-minded people. I want to be community. And then let the course just take its place. If you felt led spiritually to join a church or you felt led to maybe pray to receive Christ during that time that you're there, then let it happen. But I would say be proactive. Find that church before you need a church.
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It's interesting, too. You said... You know, even if you're not a Christian, you can go to church and find that fellowship, that camaraderie, that friendship, that support. Even if you're not, you know, 100 percent all in. I was just at the church last weekend and they were talking about somebody being new and, you know, kind of joining in. And they kind of had a little program where you have like a punch card almost to like have friends. you know, come six times and little goals during those six times that you come to church. And then like, even some like little door prizes and stuff, which I thought was really cute because I'm just trying to get you to see that, like, this is a place where you can find love and acceptance, you know, even if you're not all in initially, hopefully you'll be all in, you know, later and that you'll feel that love and, and maybe we'll, we'll develop a faith and a love for the Lord. But a big part of our faith is a love for people.
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That's right. A love for people. And, you know, you go to that church and people goes in and a little bit skeptical. I can tell when somebody's never been before and I like to go welcoming, you know, to the church. And, you know, we have what we call first steps, you know, like if you're new and you want to see what it's like to take the next step and, you know, enter into a brand new class of new visitors or believers, you know, and put you with like-minded people and go through life together, then this is a place that we can do that. And we certainly try to do that with our community. We want to be there, and I have certainly been on the receiving side as well as the giving side of what a church offers. And I certainly, we had love poured out to us, and we poured out the love with other families that's lost loved ones or dealing with tragedies and just the messiness of life. And I'm telling you, the church community, you can find then you have started to understand, I think, the purpose of life is being able to do life together with loving, like-minded people. Isn't that the truth?
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Now, in terms of anything that's come out of writing the book or in dealing with other people where you really felt the Lord's hand in it, where maybe you were led to someone or got feedback from someone, anything that's come out of it that you thought, wow, that's a real God wink?
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It is. You know, we've got some e-mails and gotten some calls, and I went and sat with a family at a hospital about an hour or two away, believe it or not. I don't think they had anybody, so they called me on a whim, and I went down there, and apparently their daughter had gotten kicked by a horse, their 8-year-old, and she ended up dying as a result of that. And I sat in that waiting room, Angie, with that couple for hours and hours. And I didn't have to say a lot. You know, the deeper the pain, the quieter you need to be. I don't go down there offering any kind of. you know, verses or encouragement or, hey, you know, she's in a better place. And, you know, hey, I get how you feel. I don't get how they feel. I know how my own loss was. But just being there, letting that couple know that you care and that they've got somebody there that's went through it. And then I got another call from a gentleman that works for me, and he was going to Walt Disneyland here in Florida, and they were stopped on the turnpike or in the interstate, and the vehicle behind them didn't stop, and they got rear-ended. He and his wife was in the front seat. They lived, but it broke their little son's neck in the back seat, and so we ended up going to their house, and I hung out four to six hours at his house when he went through that, and his wife went through that, and you know, Angie, I was there four hours, and they was running around and had other family there and different things, and I think after hour four, he looks at me and goes, Tom, I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you made it. And I'm thinking, you know, I've been here four hours. That's how jacked up and how emotional and how chaotic it is when you're going through those things. It's a very difficult time. And just being there for people to know that they know that people care.
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Yeah, just being there and that they know that people care. Regarding the little girl that died that was kicked by the horse, how did they find you? Did they know you through church? Did they know you through your book? Did someone say, oh, my goodness, I know another man that lost his child that I'm going to send your way?
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I will only tell you that I don't know if somebody referred them or they found it recalled or they had the email in the back of my book, but it came from the result of the book. And I can't remember if one of the parents read it or a friend read it and said, hey, You know, you've got to see if this gentleman will be able to speak to you. I don't think they knew I would come, but an hour and a half I got dressed, and we just went to the hospital down there in Ocala, and we just hung out. And the first time, you know, we still talk to them to this day. You know, and it's no – I'll tell you, it's no club that you want to be in, you know, when you lose a child and you're grieving. But there is support systems out there. And just that's what I would tell those folks as they read my book is that, Man, you'll make it. It's a season in life that is difficult, but if you'll hang in there, you'll get through the other side, and the Lord's willing and ready to walk with you through it.
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wow i mean that is mind-blowing to me that yet that you're not even sure how they found you and that that i think that what's going to happen over the next however many years with you know you putting the book out there the three o'clock calls and people knowing with those three three o'clock calls what about your dad your daughter and your nephew just recently being murdered that uh you're going to get so many calls in the future, and it's a club no one wants to be in, but it's a club they know you're in, so they want you to stand by them as they go through some of the, you know, similar issues. And so I think that by, you know, having the courage to write the book and to share your pain, that God's going to have people reach out to you. Some of these cases you're not even quite sure how they found you and there you were sitting in the you know waiting room not even knowing the people but there for them and they needed you
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Yeah, I had to ask for their last name, you know, as you come in through the information. And typically I know to go to trauma or emergency in those situations, and I had to ask for somebody to point them out because I didn't know what these people looked like, you know. And it was a hug like we'd known each other forever. I introduced myself, and, man, it's just hanging out. You know, I didn't really have to say anything. I just was there. I mean, there was nothing I could say. And that's the thing. I don't think they expected me to say anything. They just knew that I knew.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm speechless. I mean, this is going to open so many doors to you, to people in pain, but I feel like you know that it's God's calling and that you're prepared to be there. How do you feel when you arrive? Are you scared? Do you feel the pain? Or do you feel like God kind of gives you that supernatural strength to be able to handle their pain in order to kind of be, you know, the strength standing beside them?
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Well, you know, when you meet people, for sure, there's some nerves involved because you don't know, you know, what the expectations are from people. And, you know, I do read the Bible a lot. I'm not a scholar or nothing, but I do read and study the Bible. I have most of my life. And I'm reminded of Romans 5.3. It says, you know, we also rejoice in our sufferings. the Word of God says. That's why I'm not a pastor. I said, you know, we rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance. And I just know that we serve a loving God and that I know that through our sufferings and as we persevere through this life, you know, and we stay the course, you know, and we remain steadfast in our faith, then I have the hope that we'll be reunited with our loved ones. And I do share with these couples that say, listen, I know it's difficult. I know it's a very emotional time. I'm here for you. Let me know whatever I can do for you. And I don't go in, you know, quoting scripture and trying to, you know, lean people towards, hey, you've got to find God. I just hang out. And if the course through our relationship and our friendship, it may take a year or two for me to have a gospel conversation that maybe, just maybe, I can tell somebody that, hey, that the Spirit of God is the source of true life and not just existence but abundant living. And if I can kind of lead somebody down that road as a result of the way I live my life, then you know what? If one person, one person finds Jesus Christ as a result of this book and this ministry, everything that I have went through in this lifetime, Angie, will be worth it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. Well, it sounds like you're already, your numbers are already above that. I want to make sure people can find you, Tom Smith, and the 3 o'clock calls, your websites.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, ma'am. 3octcalls.com. And, you know, we're all over Amazon, and we've got a lot of great reviews if you wanted to kind of read the reviews. But I make the book available in hardback and softback, and it's an e-book. And I think we're probably going to try to do something in the audible format as well. And I think you need to voice that over for sure.
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Thank you, friend. Thank you so much, Angie.
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In this episode of The Flotline, host Rick Hughes opens up about his past, sharing candid insights from his childhood, his aspirations of football glory, and the transformational moment that changed his life's trajectory. Rick discusses the power of faith, the strength in adversity, and the joy of sharing his message across numerous platforms. A must-listen for anyone seeking inspiration and motivation to embrace life's potentials.
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And hopefully, if you would like to do that, you can orient and adjust to the plan. but it all starts with the great news that jesus christ the anointed son of god has redeemed you and me out of the slave market of sin thus our debt to god was paid you and i are now free from the penalty of death free from the power of sin there's a lot to talk about here a lot to say about that but before we get too far into this let me make a few announcements today we have now 66 radio stations across america and 30 plus states playing our show Many major cities like San Francisco, San Diego, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, heck on into San Antonio, Phoenix. I can't keep up with all of them, but they're growing tremendously. Thank you for your prayer support. Thank you for your encouragement as we continue to give the word of God out in these areas. It's an awesome responsibility and a great privilege to do this. And before I go too much further, I want to make sure that our new listeners at least know who Rick Hughes is. I am Rick Hughes, the host of this show, and we have been doing it for 15 years, but however, maybe not in your area. 15 years of the Flatline started many years ago when I was in Birmingham speaking at a radio station making a commercial for the Bass Pro Shops. I love to bass fish, and I could have been a professional angler, but I'm not. I didn't go that direction. But they asked me to make a commercial for the Bass Pro Shops, and I did that. And the technician at the radio station said, you've got a good voice for radio. You could have a radio show. Well, one thing led to another, and we did start a radio show in the Birmingham market, and it expanded to Jackson, Mississippi, and on across the southeast, and now it goes from California all the way to New York. And I never thought I'd be doing a radio show. For the past 50-plus years, I've been traveling, speaking to schools all across America. In the early 70s, I spoke in many public schools, but that's all gone away. Now we speak predominantly in private schools. And not Christian schools, but private academies that will allow you to come in and give the Word of God to their students. But let me back up. I grew up in Birmingham, Alabama, in a single-parent home. I never met my father. I really have no idea who my father was. I heard various reports. But my mom raised me in a single-parent home in a federal housing project. in the Birmingham area due to the crime and the problems in the federal housing project she would send me off to live with different guardians people I really did not know and people I did not really care for I think she would pay something like $50 a week, and I would get on the streetcar. They called it the bus and ride out to this person's house on Sunday night, and I would stay there until Friday night. And then on Friday night, I would come home and stay with my mom on Friday night and Saturday night and then go back to another guardian. Well, that went on with several different guardians. And when I was 13 years old, I ran home. I didn't run away. A lot of people say, I ran away. I didn't run away. I ran home. I went home and told my mom that I was not living with any more strangers. I was going to stay with her. And she allowed me to do that. During this time, I graduated from elementary school and went into high school at a place called Woodlawn. I think they even made a movie about it called Woodlawn. You can look it up. Woodlawn High School in Birmingham, Alabama had 2,500 students, grades 9 through 12, and I entered it as a freshman and not really an athlete, although I had athletic ability. It was through a coach at a swimming pool who would see me, and he would see me swimming and hanging out at the swimming pool during the summer times, and he recruited me to come play football. And eventually I did. His name was Coach Johnny Howell. Coach Howell was really probably one of the closest things to a mentor that I had. And so it was through him that I started playing football for Woodlawn High School. And also, as I grew and got a little bigger, I got involved in track and field, throwing the shot put and the discus. The football arena was fun. The track arena was fun. However, in the football arena, they have scholarships, you know. You get offers to go to school and play football. And so one of the schools that recruited me was the University of Florida. You know, the Florida Gators down in Gainesville, Florida. And one of my friends and I went down there, and we visited. We got on an airplane, flew down, flew back, and I liked it. And we both decided we would sign with the University of Florida and become Florida Gators. But there was one problem, and that was my academics. I wasn't stupid, I was just dumb because I didn't apply myself. And I got plenty of brains, I just wasn't using them at the time. And so my friend, as we went to take the SAT test, he passed with flying colors, I got the letter back from Florida that said your academic scholarship is denied due to your academic credibility. Athletic scholarship denied due to your academic credibility. I went to my coach and I said, what does this mean, coach? What's gonna happen? And of course he was very frustrated and he said, I can tell you what's gonna happen, big boy. You're gonna die. And I'm thinking, die? I feel great, coach. You know, I'm 6'2", 235 pounds, quick as lightning. Going to die? What do you mean die? He said, son, there's a war in Southeast Asia and people are dying in Vietnam and you're going to get recruited and you're going to get drafted because you're not going to college. And he said, if I was you, I'd get up to those teachers and do some apologizing and try to get some help and get those grades up and take that test again and see if you can't pass it. Well, that didn't sound like too bad an alternative, die or try to get my grades up. And I could see myself. I'm a big guy. I could see myself trying to hide behind a piece of bamboo in Vietnam. It wasn't going to work. Somebody going to shoot me. So I went to my teachers and I said, look, if you'll help me, I will apply myself and I'll do better and I'll get my grades up. And you know, the thing that's amazing is they all said we wanted to help you all along. You're just too dumb to listen. I mean, all I thought about was football and girls and goofing off and I didn't pay attention. When I started applying myself, my grades came up. Not to A level, but definitely up to B's and C's. And I was able to take that test again. This time I passed the test. And it was at this time that another college took an interest in me since I had not been committed or decommitted from the University of Florida. And that was the University of Alabama. And so I signed a four year grant and aid scholarship to play football for the University of Alabama. under the direction of coach Paul Barabright, one of the meanest, toughest old football coaches you could ever play for. I mean, he was tough as nails. I played along with Joe Namath, the famous Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania quarterback that led the New York Jets to the Super Bowl championship. I was a freshman with Kenny Stabler, who led the Oakland Raiders to the Super Bowl championship. They called him the Snake. We were all there in the athletic dorm together at the University of Alabama in 1964 and 65. And then, uh, before I got to Alabama, we got into track season at my senior year at high school, throwing the shot put in the discus. I was able to do well with that and set state records in both events, throwing the high school shot put almost 60 feet, which was the third furthest throw in the nation that year for a high school student and throwing the discus about 170 feet. This was all without any weight program, no weightlifting. We didn't have weightlifting in those days. And so I had some other offers to go on a track scholarship to some other schools as well, but we stuck with football and in 1964 we reported in the fall of 64 to the University of Alabama as a freshman football player. Boy did I get my eyes opened up. You see at my school I was the toughest guy on the team. But when I got there, I found out they had the toughest guy from over at this school, the toughest guy from over at that school, the toughest guy from over at this school. And you had to prove yourself all over again because now as a freshman football player at Alabama, you were the low man on the totem pole. I wish I could say I went on to be an All-American in Alabama because I did make All-American in high school. However, I quit. I left. After one year at the University of Alabama, we got out for the summer and one of the alumni got me a job. And I was making some money. I never really had any money. My mom and I were just low-income sort of people living in that federal housing project. So as I got some money, I got a car and got a job and started partying and goofing off and playing around. And when it came time in August to report back for two days, I called up Coach Sam Bailey at the University of Alabama and told him I wasn't coming back. He knew a lot of expletives, that's curse words, so he let me have it and told me they were counting on me to be a starting offensive tackle. that I needed to get my fanny back down there where I belong. However, if you're arrogant like I was at that time and probably still can be today, you don't see yourself as you really are, you see yourself as you think you are. Arrogant people always justify why they're right and everybody else is wrong. And in my arrogance, I wouldn't listen, because I mean, I had an apartment, I had a car, I had a job, I had some money, I had a girlfriend. What did I need school for? Is that not dumb or what? And so I meandered off down what we call the my way highway. Maybe you've been on that road before, the my way highway. And for about three years, it was my way. But, you know, I was unhappy when I left school. I wasn't fulfilled. It wasn't what I thought it was going to be. And to tell you the truth, I wasn't really willing to pay the price that needed to be paid to be the kind of athlete that they needed because I was just too lazy. And after three years on the my way highway, I saw what a mistake I had made. You know, the Aborigines in Australia have a boomerang and they throw it out. And if it hits the animal they're trying to get for dinner, well then it'll knock it down and they can run and get it. But if it misses, it'll return to them. My mom bought me a boomerang one time and I immediately threw it and it went up on the roof and I never saw it again. But anyhow, my life boomeranged from misery and unhappiness to triple the compound misery and unhappiness. I mean, I had the car, I had the apartment, I had the different girlfriends, I had the money, I had the job. But inside, there was this searchlight that would go around in my soul. And this searchlight would show me all the stupid things I'd done. And I knew, I knew inside that I was just such a loser. And I didn't have any peace with God. I didn't even think about God. I never went to church my whole life. Nobody in my family really went to church. And so I didn't go. I think maybe once when I was 11, my mother sent me to a camp, a church camp in Mississippi called French Camp Academy. And she got rid of me for three months and I went down there and I heard about God. Yes, I did. But I didn't get enough information clearly to understand it nor to actually come to know him through the Lord Jesus Christ. And so that summer, I guess three years out of college, I was at Panama City with some friends, goofing off. we would all go down there in the summer and hang out at a play and go to a place called the hangout and that's where of course we would drink beer and chase girls and fight fight on the beach you know fight and you know after a while that got old and then some reason another i got tired of it and i got in my little sports car my little mustang 390 cubic inch mustang and a came back to Birmingham, which is about 250 mile trip from the Gulf Coast back up to Birmingham. My roommate wanted to know, what are you doing home? Why did you come back? What's wrong? And I said, I don't know, man. I'm just sick of it. And it was just nothing was adding up. Nothing was adding up. And so he said, well, tell you what, let's do. Let's go to the river and let's get the boat. He had a little boat and We could get the beer in the boat and ice it down and go to the river and park it on the sandbar and watch the girls ski up and down the river. That was our objective on Sunday. However, Saturday was a different story. On Saturday I wandered into a shopping area and ran into an old girl. A girl I knew in high school named Jane and she had been a cheerleader. And Jane saw me and I saw Jane and we were talking and I was trying to flirt with her a little bit as I would have done with any beautiful girl. And I said, would you consider going out with me? And she said, well, where would you like to go? And I said, well, how about, you know, we go to the drive-in, go to the drive-in. Drive-in theater was big in those days because we'd park on the back row and fog up the windows, make out. And she wasn't for that at all. No, we're not going to the drive-in. And I said, okay, well, how about I pick you up and we go get something to eat and maybe go cruising? No, not that. Okay, well, give me the phone number. So I got her phone number. Next day was Sunday. On Sunday, we went to the river, got the boat loaded up with beer, launched the boat, parked a truck at the top of the hill, went back down the hill, and the boat floated off, sunk, and all the beer left. I forgot to put the plug in the back end of the boat, and it sunk. Well, my roommate wasn't too happy about that, but that was that, so we had to come back home early on Sunday afternoon. And it was on that Sunday afternoon that I called Jane back up again after seeing her on Saturday. And I said, Jane, it's Rick. And would you consider going out with me tonight? And she said, yes, if you'll go to church. And I went, what? Go where? Where? Church. listen don't laugh now I hear you laughing right now listen when you get hard up for a date you'll take church so I said okay I'll go to church so I picked her up in my little Mustang and went over to this little church and she wanted to go down to the front row and I'm like no way uh uh sat in the back and I didn't pay attention I didn't listen I was looking around at all the weird people and thinking you know if I get out of here I'm not coming back it was really strange because I'd never been there before And the preacher, I guess he did a great job. He didn't yell and scream or anything like that. But at the end, they gave an invitation and they asked people to come forward. And she looked at me and grabbed my hand and she said, would you like to go forward and talk with the pastor? And I said, nope. And she said, well, I'm going to go down there and pray for you. So Miss Jane left me and peeled off and went down to the front of the church, took the pastor by the hand, and they knelt at the altar, and they were praying for me. I left. I got outside, cranked the car up, and I thought, if that woman doesn't come on, I'm going to leave her here. Well, while I was out there idling in the little hot Mustang, this dude comes up to me, fellow football player named Larry, and he said, aren't you Big Rick? Aren't you Rick Hughes? And I said, yeah, how do you know that? He said, I'm Larry, and I play football at Alabama. And I was a freshman in high school when you were a senior. I used to look up to you. And he said, I was surprised when I got to Alabama and you weren't there. What happened? Where did you go? Well, I didn't know what to tell him. I just beat around the bush. And then Larry told me something unbelievable. He said, I've met somebody that changed my life, and you need to meet him. I thought he was talking about a football coach or another friend or something, an investment. I said, well, who is it? And he said, it's Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and you really need him, Rick. While he said that, I sat there stunned, and about that time, Jane came out of that church and jumped in the other side of the car on the passenger side, and she said, come on, we're gonna go to a house party. And so I drove over there, and it wasn't what I thought it was. It was a Bible study. And most of the kids were younger than me. Actually, I was 22 and most of them were like 18, seniors, 18, 19, 17. And we sat down and a gentleman from South Africa named Winston got up and began to speak and he would call on people to stand up and tell their testimony. And one after another, so many of those young people stood up and said they knew if they died, they would go to heaven. They knew if they died, they would go to heaven. Well, that was the one thing I knew. If I died, I was not going to heaven. I was sure of that. And I sat there that night and listened to these people, and it began to dawn on me that maybe I should talk with Winston. I mean, I just never talked to people about stuff like that. I didn't even own a Bible. But when it was over, I went up and introduced myself and shook his hand. He wasn't very big. I could just crush his hand and mine and I said, can I talk to you for a minute? I don't even know what I wanted to talk about. But we went in the back and he produced a Bible and he began to read scripture to me. And he asked me that question, if you died today, would you go to heaven? And I said, I don't think so. He said, would you like to go to heaven? And I said, yes, everybody wants to go to heaven. He asked me, did I know how? And I said, well, you know, straighten up, fly right, quit cussing, quit drinking, quit fighting, and, you know, maybe God will let me come in. And he just laughed, and he said, no, that's not the way it is. And he read a verse to me that said, for by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift of God, not of works, unless someone would brag about it. And he said, Rick, you can be saved here today, not by trying to be good, but by being obedient. Then he read where it said, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And he asked me, did I believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God? And I said, well, yeah. I mean, everybody believes that, don't they? Sure. He said, well, would you be willing to accept him as your Savior? And I said, yes, I would. We got on our knees in this house, and he led me in a prayer. I think they called it the sinner's prayer. I don't remember the words exactly, but I said something to the effect that, Father, I know I'm a sinner. believe your son died for me and I'm willing to accept him as my Savior I didn't feel anything no flashing lights no trumpets no harps I just prayed the same prayer he led me in and when he got through he said did you mean that and I said yeah a minute and he said then where do you think Christ is now And I just involuntarily said, I guess he's in me. He said, yes, he's in you. He showed me the verse where he says, I will never leave you. I will never forsake you. I give unto them eternal life and they will never perish. Neither shall any man ever pluck him out of my father's hand. So that was the day that I accepted Christ as my Savior. My girlfriend Jane, the girl I went with, was just thrilled about that. A lot of people ask me, did you marry Jane? The answer is no, I married Lydia from Baton Rouge. But anyhow, Jane was instrumental in that night. And as we went back to her house, her little sister was there and she was crying and she said, I've never been saved. And I said, well, why don't you do what I did? And we got down on our knees together and I prayed with her the same prayer that guy prayed with me and Jane's little sister accepted Christ. It wasn't long after that that Larry had an invitation, the football player at Alabama, remember the guy that came up to the car? He had an invitation to go speak in a little small Methodist church in a place called Sandusky, Alabama. He asked me would I ride with him and I said, sure. And we went out together. And when he got up to speak, after he was through, the pastor issued an invitation and no one really came forward. So the pastor called on me and he said, would you like to say anything, sir, before I close the service? And I don't remember what I said, but whatever it was, it appealed to those who were there because we had an altar full of people when I got through. And we didn't know what to do. We just went around praying with each one of them individually, asking them if they died, would they go to heaven, and When we left that church, Larry looked at me and he said, God's got his hand on you. Something's going on with you. Later that week, we're in a Bible study, and we're about 10 of us sitting around reading a Bible, and my verse was this. This was the verse I was supposed to read. Pray for me that utterance may be given unto me to open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel for which I'm an ambassador in bonds. And everybody just kind of looked at me and said, do you know what you read? Yeah, I don't know what it means, but yeah, I know what I read. I had to make a decision about college. I had an opportunity to go back to the University of Alabama and finish my football career with eligibility still left. But I decided to enroll in Southeastern Bible College in Birmingham. And it was through Southeastern Bible College in Birmingham I began to work with Youth for Christ International hosting bible study clubs in various high schools across birmingham and it was through those bible study clubs that i had my first opportunity to speak to a high school assembly that was banks high school in birmingham in 1968 and there must have been maybe 1800 students in the gym 900 on one side 900 on the other side and Big Rick in the middle down there under the goal post trying to talk, and they listened reverently and politely. My old high school coach was actually the principal of that school by that time. When it was over, several students came up to me and told me they had committed their life to Christ while I was speaking. Things began to happen really fast after that. I was speaking at a school in Mississippi. Three men heard me over there and they said, if we could get the permission from the governor, would you go to every school in our state? And I said, yeah, sure. And so in 1971 and 72, In 72 and 73, I spoke in, I think it's around 430 high schools across that state. It was three assemblies a day, 15 assemblies a week, week out, week in, week out, week in. I don't really know how I did it. It took a lot of energy, but I was young at the time, so I was able to handle it. And we had thousands of students who had told us they had accepted Christ. But one thing led to another, and eventually all of these assemblies turned into spiritual emphasis weeks, where we would then, instead of going for one 15-minute show, we would go for one week, five assemblies. I found out it was much more effective to stay there over a long period of time, and it was just by accident because one of the schools invited me to be their spiritual emphasis week speaker. And when I did that, I saw this is what I need to do. That's who I am. That's how I started. That's what I've been doing for years. I just returned from a school in Mississippi a couple of weeks ago and now we're headed to Texas this weekend to speak for a Wounded Warrior Convention in Texas. I hope I've brought you up to date. I hope I've let you know who I am. This is me and I am the host of The Flotline. My objective is to give you information that will help you verify and identify God's plan. We also have a podcast. You can always check us out on the podcast on Spotify or Apple iPod or anything like that by looking for The Flot Line. The Flat Line. And if you go to our website, rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org, that's plural, and you'll find all sorts of books and material we've written and we give away everything absolutely free. There's never a charge for anything from this ministry because I believe if God's in it, he will always pay for it. So I hope you'll check us out. I hope you'll come to the website, drop us a note, order some books, order whatever you'd like. And I hope that you will continue to listen to the radio show now that you know who I am, because we'll be back next week at the same time on the same station with a little bit of a different message now that you know who I am. So I appreciate you listening. Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you. It's been my great honor, and I look forward to being with you next week. So until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Meanwhile, we pay a heartfelt tribute to rock 'n' roll legend Ozzy Osbourne, who has sadly passed away at the age of 76. We reflect on his unparalleled contribution to music and share personal reminisces that span his vibrant career. Lastly, a curious exploration of political hurdles and controversies introduces a discussion on the ethical obligations of media in representing political identities. Tune in for a whirlwind of stories, homage, and insightful analysis.
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All right, so this Florida headline is pretty something. Naked man found hiding in tanning bed after trying to set Florida gym on fire. So I guess he was doing the Jersey Shore GTL. Gym tea and laundry. Gym tea and laundry. Video shows deputies arresting a man who tried to set fire to a Florida gym before he was found laying naked in a tanning bed. Body camera footage released by the Lee County Sheriff's Office shows them respond. Of course, it's a Planet Fitness. Do they have like those things? They have those tanning beds at Planet Fitness. That makes all the sense in the world. That makes so much sense now. They got reports that a naked man was running through the gym, crawling into the ceiling, and trying to start a fire in the bathroom. Then they are searching. Oh, I guess it is. They do have them there. Really? Well, they serve donuts there, too, at Planet Fitness, from what I heard. Yeah, you didn't know that? No. Yeah, so that makes sense that they do this, too. It's like fitness, but not. So they are searching the gym with guns drawn and canine before they find the man naked in a tanning bed. 25-year-old Henry with two Rs for some reason, Alvarado, was taken into custody and placed in a patrol car. They had to wrap him in a towel. The deputy goes, I'm going to wrap you up because you left cheek marks. Oh, God. Yeah. So he ran around. He climbed into the ceiling, knocked down ceiling tiles. He did all kinds of stuff. So he's got a number of charges. I know. Let's see. A Florida man gets a... He wins a DUI after he plays a game of drive a lawnmower into busy roads. Wow. What a fun game. Don't do it. So a Florida man... got picked up by police because he drove his riding lawnmower down a busy toll road while he was drunk six ways to Sunday. Christopher Spain, 38. He went out for a little drive or a mow. And when he failed to signal or it wasn't because he failed to signal or because he sped, they said he was driving erratically. How do you drive erratically in a lawnmower? I mean, for whatever reason, when you give me small objects that have power, I can't drive them very well. But I could probably drive a lawnmower like better than this guy. And so he apparently drove the thing on a toll road. Witnesses called police and they were clear that they were able to catch him and they took him into custody. He's got a DUI charge. Stick with us. We've got more in store. It's our partners who bring you the program. It's the folks over at Caltech, The Generation. the third generation of the sub 2k the gen 3 it is a full a fold and half gun optics stay in place it deploys just as quickly zeroed and ready you guys are very familiar with this we've talked about it for a long time so you guys know the sub 2k gen 3 and again for available in a variety of colors but now it also comes out uh it came out i think at the start of the year in 10 millimeter Single twist and fold motion of the rotating forend. Folds quickly in half, optics and all. Deploys zeroed and ready to go. Folds down to 16.5 inches for easy storage and transport. Lighter 5-pound trigger pull for greater accuracy. Integrated M-LOK rails up top for accessories. Whatever your shooting needs are, it will cover it. And it's made right in Florida. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation, performance, Kel-Tec. That's K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Gosh, this is one of the best songs, too. Ozzy Osbourne, dead at age 76. Well, mama, I'm coming home. And this is one of my absolute favorite songs that anybody has ever done. I mean, No More Tears is amazing. Crazy Train. I mean, the catalog of his music is amazing. And it's like, man, this is a bummer. 76 years old. That seems so young, right? That seems so young. Steve, can we wait until at least it hits the chorus? I mean, it's going to take a little bit to get there. Those of you who are watching the stream, you're like, what? We're playing it for the radio folks in the background. But it's such a great track. Mama, I'm Coming Home. That's such a great track. Dead at 76. And it was just announced by the family. They released a statement. But goodness. Yeah, this song, this was, was this released in 90? Something like 90, I think, 91, something like that. I just, I remember when this song came out, I think I was in sixth or seventh grade. And I thought, man, this is like such a great song. And I remember, don't laugh at me. I had my Sony Discman, you know, my Sony Discman that you had to hold like this because if you bumped it at all, it'd skip. But we'd drive back from the Ozarks from my family and I'd have my little, my little headphones on and I'd listen to the song leaving. There's a chorus that kicks in. Oh, so good. So good. Dead at 76 years old. Now, you guys know I'm, I'm, Kane and I are big fans. Big music aficionados. I like all good music. It doesn't matter. I'll go in any genre. Love Black Sabbath. Love Ozzy Osbourne. I've seen them live. I don't know how many times I've been to Ozzfest. In fact, one of the coolest moments of my life, it was backstage at something because we knew some mutual people and I was seven months pregnant with my second son. And it was something that members of Sabbath were doing. And Geezer Butler was backstage. And I found myself standing literally right next to Geezer Butler. Could not have been nicer. He was incredibly nice. And he was very concerned because I was very pregnant. And he was just like, are you all right? Would you like to sit down? And, you know, I was very he was very nice. But, yeah, just he man, Ozzy had a very what? How many comebacks did this guy have? I mean, he never really left. But think of it. How many, not comebacks, how many iterations in his career did he have successfully? That is an accomplishment in and of itself. I mean, after, I think, when did he start doing the Osbournes? When they start doing the reality show. That, I think, was one of the big moments for reality television. That is literally the only reality show I ever watched was the Osbournes. Yeah. I'm not into, like, reality TV. I've never been into reality TV. They've... You know, he's... That show is interesting. And he still toured. He still toured. I liked his work that he did with Zach Wild. I mean, you know, goodness. Everything that he did was good. I loved the duet that he did with Lita Ford, Close My Eyes Forever. Gosh, do you remember, Kane, when that track hit? I mean, it's still... That's still... is a great track. So 76 years of age. And we were talking on break. So, uh, Keith Richards is how old? How old is Keith Richards? Yeah. He's like 11,000 years old. He's still at ease. Yeah. He's still out there playing. But yeah, his first... Can you imagine your Ozzy Osbourne and your first solo album and the first track... The hit track off your debut solo album is Crazy Train. How many people strike gold like that? That's such a great track. Such a great track. And then, of course... Des Moines, Iowa is forever going to be famous, well, for a number of reasons, the least of which include the bat biting. He did think, in his defense, he thought that that was a fake bat that someone threw on stage. He didn't think it was real until... And I watched an interview with him where he didn't actually know it was real until he bit into it. He wasn't trying to, like, eat a bat. I mean, I don't know. Unless he was pulling our leg in that, I don't know. But, man, there's not a lot of... Every now and then you get these pop culture events that happen, and I think it really kind of like sharpens perspective of everything. And one of the things that really struck out to me is how important I think live music is and rock and roll. It's not music today is different. It's very different. And you see how big bands are that incorporate a lot of, you know, the more old school sound and old school instrumentation. I have to say old school instrumentation because everything seems to be like computer generated. But man, I don't know. I hope everybody's like blasting some Ozzy today. That's just wild that. Yeah. Everyone's like, man, this hits hard. It does. It's crazy. He said, I don't know. He's just one of those guys that you think is going to live forever. Like Keith Richards, right? Like Keith Richards is the only thing that's going to be left on this planet. And a hundred, like, you know, several years, a hundred thousand years in the future, we'll have Nokia, old Nokia, flip phones, cockroaches, and Keith Richards, Keith Richards. He's his only good. And I don't say that as being mean. That man figured out how to live through everything. And I thought Ozzie would be another one. I really did. I thought he would be another one. Man, so he was able to go out, though, on his own terms, man. He played a live show. I mean, that was just a couple weeks ago. Craziness. Craziness. So, man, I know everyone's asking me about my grandma's rule of three, Kane. I can't keep... Lorraine goes, 76 is not young. Yes, it is, Lorraine! It is young in rock and roll! It's young!
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In rock and roll, it's actually not young.
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Stop it. Stop it, Kane.
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In rock and roll.
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True.
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And in, you know, racing.
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She says Richards is, yeah, he's 81. Is it mean that I thought Keith Richards would go first?
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No, everyone's thinking that.
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Right?
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You all thought he was going to go first, right? We've been thinking that since the 90s.
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Yeah, we've been thinking of it since the 90s. Man! So, yeah, if you're just joining us, Ozzy Osbourne, absolutely legendary, has passed away, age 76 years old. And, man, just pretty unbelievable. Pretty unbelievable. They said that, I mean, this is just weeks after his final show. Didn't he go out sitting in a chair? He was out on the throne for his final show. And, honestly, like, his voice, his tone, and his pitch... sounded pretty dang good you got to give him credit you know um i don't know he's got he definitely lived loudly he snorted ants once didn't he did he snort ants in front of motley crew isn't that the story that they were trying to like one up each other and then he snorted a bunch of ants and they were like oh my gosh yeah So I don't know. He's got I mean, he helped define and I think mainstay an entire genre. And I think he like really they got a lot of I think they got a lot of heat for being because they're like, oh, you're in the occult and you're into all of this. I mean, it was a stage performance, no less than Alice Cooper was a stage performance. And Alice Cooper is an absolute devout Christian. And I would put up his charitable work against anybody's any day of the week. You know, Ozzy, maybe less so. But it was it was about it was about theater. It was about theatrical performance. That's that's what it was. But he was able to, I think, survive through so many different things, not just in music, but so many different controversies. And he always came back because he always made good music. I always think that should be like a lesson for people, especially like when you have controversies in politics. You know, you can better weather controversy if you have a good body of work to stand on. And that's why a lot of the clickbait whoredom and influencing and all of that's just such trash. That's why they're a dime a dozen and people come and go, you got to be able to stand on your body of work. And that's one of the things, whether it's music or anything, you can see that it's incredibly evident for him. He sold over 100 million records. Golly. Golly. A hundred million records. Just unbelievable. But, yeah, he's... I don't know. He's always... It just always seemed like he was a mainstay. That he was going to be a mainstay. So, goodness. Anything to add, Kane? Anything to add?
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Not really. I mean... He's... That sound was influential for rock as a whole for many decades. And it still will be, you know, out into the future. But definitely a very influential sound.
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Yeah. Yeah, very much so. I would absolutely agree. Very, very much so. So, wow, just craziness. Just craziness. So I'm happy I got to see him live. That's all I care about. I'm happy I got to see him perform live a couple of times and enjoyed his music. So just another one gone. I don't know. Everyone's like, Dana, grandma's rule of three because now everybody's petrified. I literally got like a handful of emails just in the past like 20 minutes about this. I don't know. Kane, you got to keep track of this. Who's the third now? Or is that three? Are we safe for a while? What's up?
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I mean, I think that's technically three because, I mean, if you think about it, this guy, Tom Troop. Who? Tom Troop. He was in Star Trek and Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.
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No, he doesn't count.
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He doesn't count? No, he don't count. Okay. Well, he would have made three then.
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Well, you have to know him.
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Theo Huxtable.
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Theo Huxtable.
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And then we've got Ozzy Osbourne.
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There was someone else before Theo.
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Yeah.
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So that would be three.
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But that was a while ago, right?
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Yeah, but it's like if it's in. So for the people who have no idea what I'm talking about, God love her. God rest her soul. I don't want to get haunted. But my grandmother had like some really crazy rules and really crazy like superstitions. So she had this rule of three. Deaths are always in threes and it has to be somebody that you know of or that you know, like somebody famous of whom you know of them or somebody that you actually personally know. And if there's a fourth and it starts all over again. Right. But it's always in threes. She's never been wrong. I'm just saying. So whenever we have a celebrity death or a political or whatever it is, we have to go by the rule of three. So I can't remember who. I swear there was I thought there was like a third one. But, you know, I don't remember. I don't remember now. My brain just got fried because of this news. I don't I don't remember who the third one is. Anyway, I'll I'll mull it over tonight. But a couple of other things to get into. Connie Francis. Thank you, Steve. Vegas Larry. God love you, Vegas Larry. Vegas Larry's got the memory that's going to save us all. Connie Francis. uh theo huxtable aka malcolm jamal warner and now ozzy so that's three that's three okay so it's so we're now if there's another one then the rule three starts again that's i didn't make this rule my granny boots and they called her boots because she was mean i don't know how that makes sense but that's what they did um that's her rule and that's what we got to roll by so man alive Oh, all right. What? This is the most depressing segment of radio ever. We can't go out. We can't go into a break like this. I feel like Casey Kasem now. You can't go from an uptempo song into a dog death. If you guys have no idea what I'm talking about, you need to Google Casey Kasem dog. Just Google it. And then there's going to be this video where he's pre taping a program and he's very upset because he has to go from an uptempo song right from a song into this dedication of a dog death. And he's like he gets so mad. He gets so mad about it. And he just works himself up into a fit over it. Taking charge of your health is easier with All Family Pharmacy. If you've been hearing about the latest in brain and cellular health, you're not alone. Methylene Blue is making waves for supporting focus, mental clarity, memory, and mood. RFK Jr. has been talking about using it. And NAD+, that's your body's natural energy booster. It helps cells repair and potentially slows signs of aging. With All Family Pharmacy, you now have access to these cutting-edge treatments. Whether you're interested in Methylene Blue, NAD+, or even an emergency kit for your family, this is a pharmacy that you can trust. No corporate gatekeepers, no big pharma middlemen, and no bureaucratic roadblocks. All Family Pharmacy uses 100% domestically sourced materials for all their medications, ensuring top quality and safety. So go ahead and visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off your order. And while you're there, check out their full list, over 200 medications available, including ivermectin, antibiotics, and more. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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So a new report claims that premature organ transplants are endangering donors. And there are several families that have gone on record stating that surgeons attempted to initiate organ retrievals while patients were still alive or improving. Per a July 20th report from The New York Times, amid a growing push for increased transplants, a number have endured premature or bungled attempts. And so now the Health Resources and Services Administration has been investigating. They said there were 70 canceled organ removals in Kentucky alone that should have been stopped sooner because patients showed signs of revival. And so now you have Health and Human Services looking to fix the transplant system. I'm going to tell you, there's a lot of questions to be asked about this. And there are a lot of people that want to bully you away from asking questions by portraying you ironically as heartless. Ironically. Yeah. Also, let's see here. One in four Gen Z workers regrets going to college. I still have to meet. I don't know. There's like a lot of people that think, too, that when they graduate college, that they immediately should be in line for like a CEO position and they don't want to do grunt work. They don't want to. They don't understand the concept of having to start like everybody else ever in the history of humankind and working your way up. But I also think that not everybody should be going to college either. But they said now there's 23 percent of them. And I'm wondering if they're the 23 percent that also was demanded that Biden pay for their college. And then Biden promised free college and then he didn't fulfill free college and kind of pull the rug out from everyone. And something that no one ever could have saw coming. It's not like we talked about it for days. Ground squirrels. Yes, squirrels are taking over in North Dakota City and officials are not amused. They are displeased. You might say squirrels are exasperating the people of Minot, burrowing everywhere from vacant lots to the middle of town. They say that they're there for the past couple of decades. The population control population has exploded and it's fourth largest city in Dakota. They're trying to fight back. but they said it's an uphill battle because there's so many of them it's awards like the great emu war but now it's with squirrels a delivery truck driver was struck by lightning outside of a house in a terrifying video this is crazy i'm gonna tell you lightning don't play man it does not play the driver ducked and let out a shout thankfully nobody was hurt if you can believe it or not uh but uh yeah can you imagine he made it out he almost got zapped came out unscathed Now Hollywood's demanding an investigation because they said that they have bribery concerns. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Writers Guild of America, they're saying that, oh my gosh, there needs to be an investigation. WGA, Writers Guild of America, wrote in a statement, quote, the Writers Guild of America has significant concerns that the late show's cancellation is a bribe, sacrificing free speech to curry favor with the Trump administration. Wasn't he bragging about losing $50 million for the network already? It's all of this stuff is all of this stuff is public. You can see how many people tune into a show. You can see that he's at the bottom of the heap for ratings. You can see that. I mean, they don't have a lot. They can't move a lot of inventory. Not a lot of people want to buy ad time in his day part. He is like at the bottom of the barrel. He's just not selling. He's just not appealing. That didn't even have anything to do with Trump. I mean, seriously, they're going to try to say that the 60 Minutes lawsuit and them having to settle with Trump that he was like, yeah, you know what? Give me a Colbert. No, I would think that if Trump had the option to silence somebody over at CBS, I don't think that he would care about Stephen Colbert. Colbert doesn't move the needle. The only time that we're talking about him right now is just because it's so ridiculously stupid. It's an avatar for the left's overreaction. He doesn't move the needle. He doesn't do anything. He doesn't do anything of note. He does a very unfunny show. That's pretty much it. Trump was on with him once in 2015, but then that was it. I think when Colbert first started out before he got... I don't know if he got jaded or if that's just how he always was. He was funnier when he was on Daily Show years ago. But this idea that it was done, like there was a bribe or that it was done because at his request, that's a stupid accusation. But they're demanding an investigation into it. I mean, these people are ignoring the settlement. That was because of the 60 Minutes thing. Remember, that was... And then Colbert was the one who said on his show on July 15th that the settlement was designed to sway the administration in this merger. It was a proposed $8 billion merger between Paramount Global and then Skydance, which is under investigation in California. So I don't know. Now the WGA wants Letitia James to get involved and they want her to investigate. So and they've called I think what they've been joined by what Adam Schiff, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders. They say, oh, the public deserves to know, Kane, like what? Like, what does the public deserve to know? This is so stupid. What does the public deserve to know? Audio sound by 12. Adam Schiff thinks he has the answer. Listen, so stupid.
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So what is behind the cancellation of the most popular show on late nights? Stephen Colbert would routinely get two and a half million viewers for each show. That is the number one ranked show in that slot. why would CBS cancel that show? Now CBS issued a statement claiming that the cancellation of this show was for purely financial reasons and not having anything to do with other matters. Now what are those other matters that contributed to this decision or may have contributed to this decision? Well for context, CBS is owned by Paramount and Paramount is merging with Skydance. in a transaction that has to be approved by the Trump administration. And while this merger has been pending, CBS decided to settle a frivolous lawsuit with Donald Trump. A lawsuit that Donald Trump brought for millions of dollars where he sued CBS because he didn't like the way CBS had edited an interview last year with Kamala Harris.
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Well, because it was an in-kind contribution. And so let me just set some things up here for some of these drive-by idiots. So before I even was allowed on air, I had to do, you have to do, because it's public airwaves. So we had to learn about pay for play. And then you had to learn about all of the rules from the FEC that govern airtime, specifically before elections. And depending on how close to the election day you are, if you're going to have on a political candidate, You have to give equal time to their opponent. And so the and I mean, and it wasn't just something that Trump made an accusation of and it was unfounded. I mean, there were there was agreement that what CBS did was violate this, this equal time consideration because it was it had fallen within the time period of X amount of days before an election. And they there was no equal time that had been offered to Trump at all whatsoever. And even and they did it so late in the game that they weren't going to be able to accommodate equal time for him in the same manner. So he absolutely did have a case. Anybody that has ever been on airwaves at all whatsoever has to undergo. like an educational course or some kind of training or something on this to where you understand it because you can get seriously fined for violating it. When I did local radio, when I was first starting out, this was something that we had to really religiously adhere to. And the crazy thing is, is that different campaigns would try to trigger it. because you would have campaigns that would wait and they would try to argue that so-and-so was within the scope of time when they weren't. And it was a big ordeal. So networks have to be very careful of this. And I think that they just CBS just thought that they could get away with it. I remember when I saw that interview that night, I was like, oh, man, they're going to get their handed to them for this because it was an absolute violation. You were within 30 days of the election. I mean, it was they had to offer equal time and they hadn't. And that's why they got in trouble. It wasn't because he was bribing them. Seriously, they need to make up their mind. If you're so in the right, then step two. But they knew that they weren't. That's why they settled. This had nothing to do with it. Stephen Colbert's show was so incredibly low rated. He was hemorrhaging, not just viewers. He had already lost like four million viewers, almost his entire audience that he had attracted when he first was kicking it in 2015. Their ad revenue was half of what it was in 2018. So his ad revenue dropped. It was $439 million in 2018. It dropped to like $218 million. And it was continuing to hemorrhage. It was still on the decline. So they were dropping viewers like flies. I mean, in one demo, one time, they barely edged out Jimmy Kimmel, which is why he keeps running around acting like he's like somehow the undisputed king of late night. He beat Jimmy Kimmel one time in the 18 to 49 demo. And it was by fewer than a thousand viewers. I have all of his ad. I have everything here. It was by, I mean, it literally was, this was Late Nighter. You have New York Post, Late Nighter, TMZ. I mean, this is so goofy. Adweek, which marked his ad revenue. And Adweek is a pretty left-leaning publication, by the way. The show's ratings and ad revenue have been on a disastrous downward trend. That was a quote. That was from weeks ago. They were comparing the late night shows. They said the show's ratings and ad revenue are on a are on a disastrous downward trend, particularly when compared to the show's peak viewership and when compared to every other late night show shows like The Tonight Show. And then it gets into how The Tonight Show's ratings were better and their ad rates are more. I mean, you can substantiate them a little bit more. So that's that's all. That was what it was. The ratings. decline, the ratings decline, and the ad revenue decline. So this idea that he was told to go because what Schiff is saying here, that it was somehow punitive because he was critical of Trump, that has nothing to do with it. This was in the works for a long time. This was in the works for a long time, even before the settlement. He has been struggling since his show first started. These other late night shows were able to maintain, and even when they would have dips and dives, they were able to actually regain. His show never was. It never, ever recaptured an event. And you know when it really started nose diving per ad week? It was actually during COVID. Who was really celebratory about locking everybody down? Stephen Colbert, nobody wanted to watch that. Nobody wanted to be stuck in their house by by force of penalty, by threat of penalty and have to watch a guy celebrating and telling and being in everyone's face and telling everyone like some jerk to stay home and not go to work and not have their kids go to school. He was not resonating with anybody. He wasn't. I was talking real quick to a friend of mine because I said Craig Ferguson earlier a couple of days ago, and I should have said James Corden because the late 90s, Craig Ferguson was always a little bit more, for the lack of a better way to say it, agnostic, a little more chaos neutral. James Corden is the one that was not.
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I don't know if they are they I guess they're making a move to try to unseal the grand jury. Stuff for the, I don't know. I don't know until we know it. But apparently there are also a House Committee subpoena, Jelaine Maxwell, via Daily Caller. They unanimously approved a subpoena this morning. And we'll see. I mean, right now, all we have is a subpoena. We don't have any response to that. But we'll see. Maybe there's a move to get some transparency. Maybe it's going to be different than all of the other times people say that they have stuff and then they actually don't have anything. Maybe it'll be different. We'll see. But so that's some of the latest. And then, of course, also this they're getting all Hollywood in on this now. This wasn't I don't think that this was supposed to be as big of a thing as it was. But I feel like the left is really glomming onto it. Stephen Colbert definitely is glomming onto it. And he wants to make it. He would rather it's easier for Stephen Colbert's ego image and ability to make money in the future for him. It to look like he was canceled by the president of the United States rather than his show was hemorrhaging millions of dollars a month. He couldn't sell. He was dropping in ratings and he was insubordinate. It makes it look so much easier if he was just canceled by the president. And so that's the narrative that they're all. I'm just we all know why his show has been canceled. We all know why CBS no longer wants to air his broadcast show. He doesn't do very well. And he ended up just turning out to be super bitter and not funny. And nobody wants to watch that. And so apparently last night they all got together and decided to have, you know, a three minutes hate or however long their show is. How long is his show? I've never watched. I can proudly say I've never watched Stephen Colbert. I never got a government experimental injection and I've never watched Stephen Colbert. How do you know how long is this show? How long are those shows? Two. Like a half hour. Steve, you watch late night. Do you know how long they are? I'm not going to look it up. I'm too lazy. Oh my gosh. That shows an hour. That's an hour long. He does it for an hour. He's hateful and just a living turd for an hour. Jiminy Christmas.
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Five minutes of commercials. I think.
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There's no way they're selling commercials. But apparently they had a number of people that showed up there, including Lin Manuel Miranda. Then they had Jon Stewart. And I guess he did all this stuff that he I don't know. He was just trying to be very, very funny. And of course, he called himself a martyr. Of course he did. I mean, grand, grand ideas of who one is, correct? He called himself a martyr. And that was in his monologue. I don't know if we have that. But somebody said that they're coming after Jimmy Kimmel next. And he said, no, I'm the martyr here. I'm the only one. But he really does view himself as being this martyr. And like I said, it's easier for him, it's easier for his ego... For his image and for his ability to make money in the future to have the narrative be he was canceled by Trump as opposed to he was canceled because his show wasn't making money anymore and nobody wanted to watch him. Nobody wanted to watch him. I mean, they had like how many people do they have on his program last night? It's probably the most they probably had more guests than people that were watching. But they had everybody from Jamie Lee Curtis and all of this. He audio soundbite 10, if we can say it. And hopefully YouTube won't get mad at us because it's CBS and they try to file. So YouTube tries to file copyright claims on us. They're trying they're trying to get our show. They've been trying this for years, pulled off of YouTube. So they've demonetized us. I mean, we're on YouTube purely performatively. We don't make any money off YouTube. They've killed us on YouTube. They demonetize us. They kill. I mean, they just they suppress us. The only reason we even upload to that hellscape of a whatever you want to call it, total pandemonium. The only reason that we upload anything is for people out there. That's it. I mean, it's like it's like charity work at this point. YouTube is nothing. It's meaningless. It's stupid. It is a progressive run. hellhole and um so anyway my point being is that because i get comments all the time from you all who are like why didn't you why did you just play the audio of this or why didn't you play this clip because what they do is they file a copyright notice even though it's complete fair use and then our video gets deleted and then they say if we give you one more warning we're going to delete your entire account they say stuff like that to us so this is the stuff that we have to put up with back channel So I don't care if they're all weeping and gnashing of their teeth. Go die in an AIDS fire. I don't care. You rat, bastard, whiny, censor progressives. You people are the Stasi. You people are the ones that wanted to shut everything down. You people are the ones that launched efforts to get shows like mine pulled off of every damn digital platform. You guys screwed over all my social media accounts. You made it to where I didn't. gain or lose a single follower on x for like months on end even grok admits that there's something super sketchy happening beyond any kind of any anything it knows of on that platform so your guy wasn't performing ratings wise and so he gets canceled and you guys are all apoplectic You guys are showing more. The left is showing more rage over this than they showed over the people whose jobs they cost by demanding we all lock down. They're showing more rage over this than all the people whose social media accounts got pulled off because of Hunter Biden's laptop. I'll be damned if I have to watch a bunch of old wrinkly ass boomers weep and gnash teeth because of a bitter, unfunny, washed up, never was comedian. Go pound sand and go do something so unflattering to yourself, I can't even talk about it on the airwaves. Now let's move. Partners brought to you by people like Alio Capital. 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Malcolm Jamal Warner, 54 years old, drowned. Accidental drowning. That came out across yesterday as we were finishing up the program in Costa Rica. A second individual was also rushed to a local clinic in critical condition. Their condition is unknown, but apparently cause of death was listed as asphyxia. He was caught in a high current in the ocean, according to ABC, and they found his body Sunday. That's just awful. He was vacationing with his daughter. Oh, my gosh. Theo Huxtable. No, man. So Musk's Tesla is opening a one of a kind high tech diner where customers can order their food from car touchscreens and they'll be served from robots. So if you're somebody like me who goes through phases where I literally don't want to be around any other living souls. This sounds like heaven. Just let me sit with my robot overlords and crochet and do activities that I want to do that make me happy and leave me alone. But honestly, they're going to kill you. What they're going to do is they're going to serve your plate of food and then they're going to punch their fist through your chest. That's what's going to, I'm just assuming they could. I just also don't like disproportionate looking robots. Like if you're going to make a robot, don't make it like miniature. I don't like, you know, we have mini pigs and mini doodles and all this other stuff. I don't want a mini human in the form of a robot. It's weird. It's unnerving. I don't like it. Apparently, scientists declare humans will burn in cosmic hell. It's going to end with a big crunch. Well, it started that way. So, yay. Beef prices, they say, are the new egg prices. They're soaring. Eat more cows. Ranch more cows. Whatever. And they won't. We've got a lot more on the way, including, oh gosh. More than I can share in the seconds I have. Just stay with us or I'll find you. It is our friends over at Super Beats, their product, Super Breen. You can get it at, I mean, you can like, it's from the same people who do the Super Beats hard shoes. And now they have the Super Breen. And you can walk into a Sam's Club and get it. and it's less than a dollar a day. You can invest in metabolism and blood sugar support. And that's what Superberine does. It's not just any berberine that they use either. I mean, this is a, it's like a bougie berberine, if I'm being honest, but there's a reason. It's clinically studied. It delivers nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. And they accomplish this in a number of different ways. They make it to where it's a higher absorption and It's concentrated, so you're getting all of the goodness in just one easy-to-swallow capsule. And if you're worried about GI distress, Super Bering includes grapeseed extract that improves, adds for greater tolerability as well. You can find both the new Super Bering for your metabolism and blood sugar and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Chews all at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with the Super Beats Heart Chews and expand your routine with Super Bering for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support.
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And you would have the speaker emeritus that would say, well, you know, I'm going to leave it up to, but I don't know. And they had already made a decision. They had clearly made a decision. And when I say they, I mean the speaker. And, you know, I heard Alexander Pelosi say something, call my mom, like, put your big girl pants on to my mom or something. And I kind of feel like saying, who the do you think you are? I would never speak about your mom that way. Yeah, I would never speak about your father that way. I would never insult your parents that way. Even to this day, I would never.
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So I got to say, he's the only person who can cuss. And I believe that they actually cuss. Like these other people, I think they're nasty, but I think that they're just not comfortable. Like Hunter Biden, you've all seen his naked backside, right? There's videos where he's banging Russian hookers like all over the Internet. He's in a bathtub sleeping with a crack pipe perched on his dry, parched lips. So, you know. I feel like he just doesn't really care about how he comes across anymore. I mean, is there really like what kind of image rehabilitation? What what what can you get out of that after you see someone's 50 something year old pocked backside, you know, pausing with their finger on the trigger of a gun while they've got crack on a scale behind them, you know, or cocaine? How did the drugs work? I don't know. It's all powder, right? I don't know.
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You make a good point.
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But when he cusses, I want to be like, okay, Gavin Newsom, that's what it sounds like when you're actually debased and you just cuss every other word. That's what it sounds like. That guy right there. He just doesn't care. He doesn't even care enough to shave fully. He just doesn't care. He's there. He looks like somebody just basically got up. Come on. He doesn't care. Whose show was he? I don't care. He was on somebody's stupid podcast. But that was Hunter Biden talking about how Nancy Pelosi was the one who ran his father out. Now, just wait till Joe has his book Ghost written for him. Just wait. This is just a sign of things to come. Because you know Hunter Biden is not going out there saying anything that Joe has not okayed him to say. Because right now, nobody's buying his spit art. Nobody, I know, I'm also amazed by the fickleness of the art community that nobody wanted to purchase Hunter Biden's saliva paintings anymore after Joe, his dad, was no longer president of the United States. It's really amazing, Cain, how that worked, how that supply and demand worked, that arrangement. I, for one, could not have seen that coming. It's truly shocking. But nobody's buying his spit art. So what's he to do? He's got to find somebody. He's got to cling on to his dad. That's the only way he's going to get any money left now. And Biden's going to have one hell of a ghostwritten book. But he better hurry up and write it because the man ain't getting any older. Damn. I mean, he's like. He's getting older. Huh? He's getting older. I mean, he's not getting any younger. That's what I mean. Yes. Good heavens. Good heavens. So I. But that's what it sounds like when somebody is really, you know. Every other word. There's a lot of dirty laundry that's yet to come out. I think of all of this because they still have not cemented over on the left. They still have not have not come around a particular leader. They have no idea who their leader is going to be. They don't know. They don't know. They're just Gavin Newsom wants it badly. That's all we do know. He wants it very badly. But I don't know. Is he going to be able to get it? Who knows? It's not going to be an Obama acolyte because I think that they're even starting to lose power. And also, I think when you have Michelle Obama out there doing a podcast, I don't know how often her podcast uploads because I don't care. I mean, there's a million things I'd rather fill my head with. I'd rather go and literally count cracked acorns in my backyard than just simply Google how often her podcast posts. I don't care. But I do think that there is something when you share that much information, the mystery dies. You know what I mean? And then there's no allure anymore. All your laundry's out there in the open, like Hunter Biden's naked pockmark backside, right? It's just all out there in the open. So I don't know. You can't get that image out of your head, Cain, can you? That's why the guy doesn't care. He's like, you all see my ass. I don't care. He just gets out there and is like, blank this, blank that, and runs his mouth and tells everyone else to go do unflattering things to themselves. I mean, he's, you know, he just doesn't. So imagine what a barn burner the ghostwritten book is going to be. I think I kind of probably know what the title is going to be. Blank you. Oh. Story of Jack Whacken Biden. Hunter Biden has all of the meanness that Joe has still, but is just too addled to recover because that's really how Joe Biden was. Joe Biden was a jerk. I'm talking about it in the past sense because he doesn't even know where he is anymore. But still, it's not an excuse. Not an excuse. How dare you make fun of his stutter? Shut up. We have a lot more audio of him. Audio soundbite three. I need this. Just just we're going to just explode this one. Just blow this one up. This is about the Hunter Biden laptop, guys. And, you know, it's not a big deal because like all of you people have them. What? Yeah.
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anybody that is keeping an open mind is what is it that you think the laptop proves or what you call the laptop? So everybody has a laptop. So when they say Hunter Biden's laptop, what is it that they're talking about?
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Do you know? Well, I know that you, uh, your entire iCloud was connected to it. All of your personal text messages, private photos, all that kind of stuff. Like everybody's laptop.
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Yeah.
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And you left it with a repair shop owner, particularly, I think the New York post, uh, was involved in the spearheading of this mass dissemination of your private materials. From what it seemed like, it was a lot of private texts between you and your friends, family, your entire sort of private life was on there.
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Yeah. And again, so everybody has a laptop. Everybody has a cloud. I'm assuming not. No, no, no, no. Not everybody has a laptop. Everybody has a digital life. Almost everybody has a digital life. Everybody has a digital life, pretty much. And that includes voicemails and pictures and test messages and emails and location data. Sounds like Joe Duddy. You know, everything. Everybody. You do, you do. Everybody that is here right now. By whatever means, they got my digital footprint going back decades.
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Oh, yeah, they did. They got your digital footprint all right. They got it a lot. Everybody's got a laptop. Yeah, not everybody has literal home movies with hired foreign hookers while they're also snorting nose candy. Not everybody's got that. What kind of deflection is that? I mean, yeah, I had these things, but everybody has a digital life. You know what my digital life comprises? You know what my digital life consists of? My digital life consists of the stuff that I stream on TV, which is usually documentaries or horror films. sometimes a western but i've seen almost all of them uh it includes me playing certain video games because i like to play casually so i'll play certain things and then when hell drivers comes out for xbox on the 26th of august i'm literally considering taking the day off work uh i mean that you know me doing stuff like that me googling crochet patterns um what else so what you're saying is it's not about smoking crack your online persona yeah no there's no crack or hookers or arguing with people on speakerphone or whatever yeah i don't have any i'm not arguing with my drug dealers you know i don't i would have to get a drug dealer first i'm not arguing with and you know drug dealers so Yes, everybody has a digital life. No, not everybody lies on a 4473, bangs their sister-in-law, gets her addicted to drugs, and then has your illegally obtained firearm thrown in a trash can across the street from the school. No, not everyone gets appointed to, what is it? I swear to you, it was like $80,000 a month job. to helm energy at Burisma when the most you know about energy is how many backup packs you're going to need in order to make your home movies with your four higher Russian hookers. So that really doesn't make any sense. Not everybody has that kind of a digital life. And also, he doesn't just have a digital life. He is a digital creator. He had his own account on some Hobag site where he made all of these nasty videos and uploaded them for other people to view on these skanky sites. Ew! Oh my gosh!
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What? Everybody has a digital life.
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That's just, no, not everybody. And who's the guy who looks like Fletch? He looks like he's cosplaying as Chevy Chase sitting there like, yeah, I was like, he's so afraid that he's going to lose the interview. He doesn't want to ask a tough question. He's so terrified. He's like, yeah, I mean, it was just like, you know, like all of your personal communications and stuff is all that, you know, it's all that stuff. I mean, totally understand. And then he doesn't even push back when Hunter Biden's like, everybody has a digital life. My first thing was, no, not everyone sits here and bangs Russian hookers while they're snorting blow and arguing with their drug dealer and an uploaded movie to their online porn site. No, not everybody does that, Hunt. Not everybody does that. Not everybody sends their family member to go eye up heiresses in Palm Beach and see who they're going to be able to get as a side piece. And they just openly discuss it even after your laptop went missing. No, not everybody does that. Sorry. Not everyone gets an $80,000 a month job on a company that your dad arranged for you on something they know nothing about. That's like hiring me to work on the NFL. Well, Dana, what do you think about this? Well, I don't know, but maybe we can have the ball in different colors. I don't know. Like maybe we could change out the stitching mirror. No, you know, like that. Nobody or I could be like, I don't know. Maybe we've got to change the chief's uniforms because they look like ketchup packets. I don't know. Like maybe let's they're going to come up now, but that's OK as an example. So no. And that guy just doesn't push back. This is why, you know, sometimes, yes, there's so many podcasts. It's oversaturated. But the there's no pushback. You're just letting him ramble. Okay, what do you mean everybody has a digital life? What do you mean Nancy Pelosi forced your dad out? Did you guys not know that he was completely brain addled? What was in it for you guys that you guys didn't want to support him making healthier decisions to maybe not take a job that gave him so much stress? Where were you guys in all of that? Not a single one of these idiots have asked him that. All these people are so eager to gobble up clicks to have Hunter Biden on. They all ask him the same stuff. Not a single person has pushed back. No, but they'll dress up like Fletch. Not a single person has pushed back. Not a single person has said, OK, but you guys knew that he was struggling. Doesn't that have more to do with this than what Nancy Pelosi thought? Like, why didn't you help him make healthier decisions or when did you know that something was off? When did you know that he had no idea where he was? When did you come on? But they're too afraid that they're not going to be able to finish. They won't have an interview or they won't get a soundbite. So they don't ask. They just cower. Every single one of these interviews I've seen, these people just cower. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it was like he's like terrified to bring it up to him. Grow some balls. Ask some questions. Good grief. It's just disturbing. Our forefathers who ran the penny presses and literally called each other hermaphrodites in editorials and printed printed publications would be so ashamed of you. We've got more of that, believe it or not. I know. We're also going to get into all of the celebrities that are coming out because nobody understands what censorship is. Jamie Lee Curtis, all these other folks. And I'm going to show you the cringiest thing you're going to see probably for the week. I had to watch it. You do, too. You can't get away from it. Just when you think I've talked about it already, I'm going to show you the video. But anyway, we're going to dive into all of that. We also have some other stuff to touch upon. Latest immigration. We're going to get into this. 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in places. I made a decision after the last election when I saw that 68% of the voters identified as Christian in one way or another that I needed to do Christian podcasts. And I've been doing about one to two a month. I was raised as a Christian. I went to a Christian college on a soccer scholarship. But I would not talk about my faith because I thought it didn't really belong in politics. But what I've seen is that Republicans are weaponizing faith. And it's actually to our own disadvantage to not talk about it. And so we have to do things that are uncomfortable. And that's what I think is so inspiring about that interview.
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Is that why he supports abortion on demand up until the moment of birth? Because that's their party's official platform. Well, just about. I mean, they believe in abortion on demand funded by the taxpayer. So tell me how Christian that is. I love people who are like, well, I'm a Christian, but also I love all these things. What? What do you mean weaponizing faith? Pointing out that you don't live it? I mean, that's just, that's not weaponizing. That's just simple discernment. And there's a major difference, by the way, between judgment, hypocritical judgment, and then discernment. That's simply Christian discernment. Just highlighting the fact that you're claiming, I mean, even the devil can quote scripture to cite Shakespeare. kind of sounds like what's happening here he's trying so hard look at them they're trying so hard to act like they're somehow the middle and they some of them have an idea that that's what it's going to take in order to have relevancy not just i think going into midterms but beyond midterms also and that they can't by staying on the fringes of the far left That's such a very there's not a lot of there's I mean, yeah, it seems like there's a lot of people there only because they're so loud. Only because they're so loud. And then you have a bunch of that's why you have a bunch of different signs and messages and slogans at every single one of these protests, because not everyone's there for the same reason. They just kind of have to take what they can get. But that's the downside of Democrats allowing those people to be their street team for so long. And that's really what you know, that's kind of what the problem was. So I don't know. I people who say things like that, but then believe in obliterating the American family and support policies to that effect and believe in things like abortion on demand. And they believe that somehow you can force will in people, which not even God does that. I don't know. It just seems, you know, and then, of course, we're not even going to get into the bearing false witness and all the other stuff that he engages in. Nobody believes us. He's just he's just a spiteful person. The funny thing is, is all those people on that panel were just smiling, nodding. Yeah, that's right. We're also Christians. Really? I mean, you say you are, but your policies don't reflect it. Your concern for others don't reflect it. The only time you ever show concern is when you think that it can actually be advantageous to your position or to your cause. So coming up, this, I don't know, idea that somehow, well, do you hear the thing where Paramount, I think it's one and a half billion dollars to buy a I can't remember how much content of South Park. And so they're good for the next like a five year deal. They're going to be airing South Park on Paramount. Paramount, which fired Stephen Colbert. They own CBS because Stephen Colbert wasn't making money. That's hysterical. We'll talk a little bit about that. We've got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. And of course, the folks who make the show possible, our sponsor over at Relief Factor. It's easy to manage everyday aches and pains with Relief Factor because they have developed, you know, a non-drug, a drug-free supplement, a way to do it to help these manage your aches and pains naturally. My husband has sports injuries and he works out a lot. And so Relief Factor helps with inflammation and it lets him lift weights without worry. They combine powerful ingredients like the turmeric, the omega-3 fatty acids, resveratrol, and a lot more to target inflammation and support joint health. It's a 100% drug-free supplement designed to support your body's own natural healing process. You don't have to stay stuck living with pain. You can try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. It's less than a dollar a day, and you can support a veteran-owned company and see the difference for yourself. Visit relieffactor.com. or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800, the numeral four in relief.
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considering that these will be built in areas that hosts strategic ports as well as military air bases.
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You took an ammunition?
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Yes, the US House Congressional Committee on Appropriations approved the budget.
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Well, it's very important. Otherwise, we wouldn't have approved it. Yeah, it's very important. Otherwise, we need ammunition. We're going to end up in a few months, we'll have more ammunition than any country has ever had. We're going to have more missiles than any country has ever had. We're going to have all the speedy missiles. We'll have the speedy ones, the slow ones, the accurate ones, the ones that are slightly less accurate. We have everything. But we will have more ammunition than any country has ever had. It's very important to me.
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I just think it's funny. We're going to have the speedy ones, the slow ones, the ones that are super accurate, the ones that are not so accurate. I don't even know what purpose it serves, but I love it. It's just funny. Welcome back to the program. That was from a little earlier. President in the Oval Office, he was meeting with the President of Philippines. And I think, well, he's having ongoing meetings there with folks in D.C. And of course, also on deck, one of the things that we have is this weird, this fight going on over the... Well, I guess just the Epstein stuff. Is Jelaine Maxwell, is she going to be forced to testify? Because then... The way the media is asking questions like, does that mean that there's like a chasm between the admin and they're saying it was an ambush. Like, I don't know if it was an ambush. But, I mean, she already had her trial. And she did already testify. What else is new that, I mean, I'm all for it. But I'm just like, what else new do they think that they're going to get out of that? What new things do they think they're going to get out of this? I don't know.
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I did see, though, that Johnson had shut down voting just so that this wouldn't be. I don't know if it had to do with the document release or whatever the case may be. But the voting was blocked by Speaker Johnson on the Epstein stuff. So I don't know exactly what the motivation is for that because they have all of August to take time off. Why are they starting now?
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Well, that's probably why, because they have all of August to take time off. That's why. So apparently they have a House committee that subpoenaed her, and I think they're reading some of this that their DOJ is going to be meeting with her, I guess, privately. So I don't know what else they think that they're going to get out of it. I mean, I'm all for it. I want everything released and out there, and I explained yesterday that I'm sure that there are a lot of people implicated in all kinds of maybe shady dealings. I mean, we are talking about our own members of Congress who themselves had a slush fund. Millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars we have paid out to settle sexual harassment cases for members of Congress. And we don't even have the courtesy of being told for whom. We were settling these things for we just it's our tax dollars that are that we're doing it. So interesting indeed. So this is one of the one of the things we're watching. And of course, also the ongoing push with the late night stuff, late nights dead. Now Hollywood's demanding an investigation because they said that they have bribery concerns. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Writers Guild of America, they're saying that, oh my gosh, there needs to be an investigation. WGA, Writers Guild of America, wrote in a statement, quote, the Writers Guild of America has significant concerns that the late show's cancellation is a bribe, sacrificing free speech to curry favor with the Trump administration. Wasn't he bragging about losing $50 million for the network already? It's all of this stuff is all of this stuff is public. You can see how many people tune into a show. You can see that he's at the bottom of the heap for ratings. You can see that. I mean, they don't have a lot. They can't move a lot of inventory. Not a lot of people want to buy ad time in his day part. He is like at the bottom of the barrel. He's just not selling. He's just not appealing. That didn't even have anything to do with Trump. I mean, seriously, they're going to try to say that the 60 Minutes lawsuit and them having to settle with Trump that he was like, yeah, you know what? Give me a Colbert. No, I would think that if Trump had the option to silence somebody over at CBS, I don't think that he would care about Stephen Colbert. Colbert doesn't move the needle. The only time that we're talking about him right now is just because it's so ridiculously stupid. It's an avatar for the left's overreaction. He doesn't move the needle. He doesn't do anything. He doesn't do anything of note. He does a very unfunny show. That's pretty much it. Trump was on with him once in 2015, but then that was it. I think when Colbert first started out before he got... I don't know if he got jaded or if that's just how he always was. He was funnier when he was on Daily Show years ago. But this idea that it was done, like there was a bribe or that it was done because at his request, that's a stupid accusation. But they're demanding an investigation into it. I mean, these people are ignoring the settlement. That was because of the 60 Minutes thing. Remember, that was... And then Colbert was the one who said on his show on July 15th that the settlement was designed to sway the administration in this merger. It was a proposed $8 billion merger between Paramount Global and then Skydance, which is under investigation in California. So I don't know. Now the WGA wants Letitia James to get involved and they want her to investigate. So and they've called I think what they've been joined by what Adam Schiff, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders. They say, oh, the public deserves to know, Kane, like what? Like, what does the public deserve to know? This is so stupid. What does the public deserve to know? Audio is done by 12. Adam Schiff thinks he has the answer. Listen, so stupid.
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So what is behind the cancellation of the most popular show on late nights? Stephen Colbert would routinely get two and a half million viewers for each show. That is the number one ranked show in that slot. why would CBS cancel that show? Now, CBS issued a statement claiming that the cancellation of this show was for purely financial reasons and not having anything to do with other matters. Now, what are those other matters that contributed to this decision or may have contributed to this decision? Well, for context, CBS is owned by Paramount, and Paramount is merging with Skydance. in a transaction that has to be approved by the Trump administration. And while this merger has been pending, CBS decided to settle a frivolous lawsuit with Donald Trump. A lawsuit that Donald Trump brought for millions of dollars where he sued CBS because he didn't like the way CBS had edited an interview last year with Kamala Harris.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, because it was an in-kind contribution. And so let me just like set some things up here for some of these drive-by idiots. So before I even was allowed on air, I had to do, you have to do, because it's public airwaves. So I had to, we had to learn about pay for play. And then you had to learn about all of the rules from the FEC that govern airtime specifically before elections. And depending on how close to the election day you are, if you're going to have on a political candidate, You have to give equal time to their opponent. And so the and I mean, and it wasn't just something that Trump made an accusation of and it was unfounded. I mean, there were there was agreement that what CBS did was violate this this equal time consideration because it was it had fallen within the time period of X amount of days before an election. And they there was no equal time that had been offered to Trump at all whatsoever. And even and they did it so late in the game that they weren't going to be able to accommodate equal time for him in the same manner. So he absolutely did have a case. Anybody that has ever been on airwaves at all whatsoever has to undergo protection. Like an educational course or some kind of training or something on this to where you understand it because you can get seriously fined for violating it. When I did local radio, when I was first starting out, this was something that we had to really religiously adhere to. And the crazy thing is, is that different campaigns would try to trigger it. because you would have campaigns that would wait and they would try to argue that so-and-so was within the scope of time when they weren't. And it was a big ordeal. So networks have to be very careful of this. And I think that they just CBS just thought that they could get away with it. I remember when I saw that interview that night, I was like, oh, man, they're going to get their handed to them for this because it was an absolute violation. You were within 30 days of the election. I mean, it was they had to offer equal time and they hadn't. And that's why they got in trouble. It wasn't because he was bribing them. Seriously, they need to make up their mind. If you're so in the right, then step two. But they knew that they weren't. That's why they settled. This had nothing to do with it. Stephen Colbert's show was so incredibly low rated. He was hemorrhaging, not just viewers. He had already lost like four million viewers, almost his entire audience that he had attracted when he first was kicking it in 2015. Their ad revenue was half of what it was in 2018. So his ad revenue dropped. It was $439 million in 2018. It dropped to like $218 million. And it was continuing to hemorrhage. It was still on the decline. So they were dropping viewers like flies. I mean, in one demo, one time, they barely edged out Jimmy Kimmel, which is why he keeps running around acting like he's like somehow the undisputed king of late night. He beat Jimmy Kimmel one time in the 18 to 49 demo. And it was by fewer than a thousand viewers. I have all of his ad. I have everything here. It was by, I mean, it literally was, this was Late Nighter. You have New York Post, Late Nighter, TMZ. I mean, this is so goofy. Adweek, which marked his ad revenue. And Adweek is a pretty left-leaning publication, by the way. The show's ratings and ad revenue have been on a disastrous downward trend. That was a quote. That was from weeks ago. They were comparing the late-night shows. They said, the show's ratings and ad revenue are on a disastrous downward trend, particularly when compared to the show's peak viewership and when compared to every other late-night show, shows like The Tonight Show. And then it gets into how The Tonight Show's ratings were better and their ad rates are more... I mean, you can substantiate them a little bit more. So that's all. That was what... It was the ratings... decline, the ratings decline, and the ad revenue decline. So this idea that he was told to go because what Schiff is saying here, that it was somehow punitive because he was critical of Trump, that has nothing to do with it. This was in the works for a long time. This was in the works for a long time, even before the settlement. He has been struggling since his show first started. These other late night shows were able to maintain, and even when they would have dips and dives, they were able to actually regain. His show never was. It never, ever recaptured an event. And you know when it really started nose diving per ad week? It was actually during COVID. Who was really celebratory about locking everybody down? Stephen Colbert, nobody wanted to watch that. Nobody wanted to be stuck in their house by by force of penalty, by threat of penalty and have to watch a guy celebrating and telling and being in everyone's face and telling everyone like some jerk to stay home and not go to work and not have their kids go to school. He was not resonating with anybody. He wasn't. I was talking real quick to a friend of mine because I said Craig Ferguson earlier a couple of days ago, and I should have said James Corden because the late 90s, Craig Ferguson was always a little bit more, for the lack of a better way to say it, agnostic, a little more chaos neutral. James Corden is the one that was not. So our partners for this portion of our program, it's our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. Patriot Mobile not only wants to save you money, But they also want to make sure that your money is not working against you at the ballot box, and that's incredibly important. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So a new report claims that premature organ transplants are endangering donors. And there are several families that have gone on record stating that surgeons attempted to initiate organ retrievals while patients were still alive or improving. Per a July 20th report from the New York Times, amid a growing push for increased transplants, a number have endured premature or bungled attempts. And so now the Health Resources and Services Administration has been investigating. They said there were 70 canceled organ removals in Kentucky alone that should have been stopped sooner because patients showed signs of revival. And so now you have Health and Human Services looking to fix the transplant system. I'm going to tell you, there's a lot of questions to be asked about this. And there are a lot of people that want to bully you away from asking questions by portraying you ironically as heartless. Ironically. Yeah. Also, let's see here. One in four Gen Z workers regrets going to college. I still have to meet. I don't know. There's like a lot of people that think, too, that when they graduate college, that they immediately should be in line for like a CEO position and they don't want to do grunt work. They don't want to. They don't understand the concept of having to start like everybody else ever in the history of humankind and working your way up. But I also think that not everybody should be going to college either. But they said now there's 23 percent of them. And I'm wondering if they're the 23 percent that also was demanded that Biden pay for their college. And then Biden promised free college and then he didn't fulfill free college and kind of pull the rug out from everyone. And something that no one ever could have saw coming. It's not like we talked about it for days. Ground squirrels. Yes, squirrels are taking over in North Dakota City and officials are not amused. They are displeased. You might say squirrels are exasperating the people of Minot, burrowing everywhere from vacant lots to the middle of town. They say that they're there for the past couple of decades. The population control population has exploded and its fourth largest city in Dakota. They're trying to fight back. But they said it's an uphill battle because there's so many of them. It's a war like the Great Emu War, but now it's with squirrels. A delivery truck driver was struck by lightning outside of a house in a terrifying video. This is crazy. I'm going to tell you, lightning don't play, man. It does not play. The driver ducked and let out a shout. Thankfully, nobody was hurt, if you can believe it or not. But, yeah, can you imagine? He made it out. He almost got zapped. Came out unscathed. Stick with us because a funny way that white progressives are harassing people in the Northeast. We always complain about Hollywood, but how many people actually do something about it? That's the thing. How many people, beyond canceling a Netflix subscription, actually do something about shaping what Hollywood does? A lot of people think that they don't have the power to do that. That's incorrect. Angel Studios is doing it, and you can join that fight. Angel Studios is putting out the content that people really want to see, stuff that celebrates American exceptionalism. And our values and doesn't just doesn't beat on America for like 120 minutes straight. They're they're creating experiences beyond just making movies. They bring families together. They've got so many different titles. They've animated offerings. They've got dramas, whatever you can think of. They have it. And it's all unapologetically American as well. It's uplifting. You're not going to feel so depressed like you want to go jump off your roof and break your legs to nothings after you go and watch it. It's actually uplifting. And it's like, you know, feel good. Like back what the movies used to be like. You can join and help them by becoming a premium member of the Angel Studios Guild. You can become a premium member here. You get free tickets to every theatrical release and so much more. Just visit angel.com slash Dana and join over 1 million Americans taking back control of their entertainment. Join the Angel Guild, help fund the future of storytelling that reflects your values. You get to help green light stuff, and you get those free theater tickets, ad-free streaming, and so much more. Become a premium member today at angel.com slash Dana.
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Crack cocaine make you act any differently? No. Is it safer than alcohol? Probably. People think of crack as being dirty. It's the exact opposite. When you make crack, what you're doing is you're burning off all the impurities so that it combines with the sodium bicarbonate, which makes it smokable. That's all.
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Yeah. Seriously. Good heavens. That's Hunter Biden.
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I didn't think I was going to get like a crack tutorial on my bingo card today.
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Yeah, I didn't either. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash. I don't know. Audio soundbite one. This is the ambient cut. That was pretty insane. Listen, please.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know exactly what happened in that debate. He flew around the world, basically, the mileage that he could have flown around the world three times. He's 81 years old. He's tired as ****. Give him Ambien to be able to sleep. He gets up on the stage and he looks like he's a deer in the headlights.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don't think he needs Ambien to help sleep. you i don't think he needs ambient to help go to sleep yeah i think he needed crack i think he needed something to wake up he looked like he was dead more than he needed that yeah he looks like he was dead i mean i think he needed yeah i think he needed some something i don't know i just can't i can i play three again i'm still trying to wrap my mind around this this is this is a soundbite for the ages listen to three listen to three
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My question to anybody that is keeping an open mind is what is it that you think the laptop proves or what you call the laptop? So everybody has a laptop. So when they say Hunter Biden's laptop, what is it that they're talking about?
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Do you know? Well, I know that you your entire iCloud was connected to it, all of your personal text messages. private photos, all that kind of stuff. Like everybody's laptop.
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Yeah.
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And you left it with a repair shop owner. Particularly, I think the New York Post was involved in the spearheading of this mass dissemination of your private materials. From what it seemed like, it was a lot of private texts between you and your friends, family. Your entire sort of private life was on there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And again, so everybody has a laptop. Everybody has a cloud.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm assuming not.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, no. Not everybody has a laptop. Everybody has a digital life. Almost everybody has a digital life. Everybody has a digital life, pretty much. And that includes voicemails and pictures and test messages and emails and location data and, you know, everything. Everybody. You do, you do. Everybody that is here right now. By whatever means, they got my digital footprint going back decades.
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By whatever means. Well, it was because of you, because you literally uploaded it to a porn site that was public. That's how they got it, by whatever means. You had uploaded a lot of these videos already. A lot of these videos people found online without needing your laptop to do it. And then they found that there were videos that you had on your laptop that had also already been uploaded to these different sites online. You left your laptop at a repair shop for over a year, well over a year. You can't, they're not a storage facility. And he signed a contract stating that if he didn't pick it up after six months, then it was theirs. So he wants to come back almost a year after that six month term, because it was actually over a year. That's how long he left it there. And he thought that I don't know. That was the means by which they got it. That was the means by which he got it. Lorraine makes an interesting point because the guy who looks like Fletch, who's wearing the ball cap and doing the interview, apparently he's, I don't know, some rando who made his YouTube page look like a legitimate site. And that's... I don't know if Hunter Biden knew who he was talking to. Maybe that's why the guy never pressed back and looked so terrified when he was asking him questions because he acted like he was too afraid to ask him anything. What? You got a realization over there?
SPEAKER 14 :
So they kind of pumped Hunter in this interview.
SPEAKER 19 :
Did he though? I mean, or maybe he had, maybe it started out that way, but he just never pushed back. If you have Hunter Biden in front of you saying, well, I don't know. They just got this by whatever means they got it. You're going to be like, dude, You uploaded this stuff yourself. You did this. You upload people found it. Like I said, before the laptop, these videos were already out because they ran it. I don't want to know how, but they ran across them on these grody sites and it came out that way. So I don't know. I, those are the means by which they came out.
SPEAKER 14 :
I was told this was Russian disinformation.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it was too, that it was all Russian disinformation. Why didn't he just go with that? Why didn't he just be like, yeah, that was all Russian disinformation? He's so privileged and he acts like he's so beat up on. He had the whole intel apparatus running defense for him. He had the FBI, the CIA, Secret Service. He had DNI. DOJ, he had literally every intelligence apparatus in the entirety of the Department of Justice that were acting as his babysitters. Because remember, it was Secret Service that was said to have hushed up the gun in the trash can. And it was Secret Service that apparently hushed up And this is from his own memoir. This is about the time he bought his gun. He went on a bender and then rented a car somewhere out in California and drove to Arizona or something. And he had his brother's attorney general badge in his car. And he was drunk and cracked out of his mind. And didn't he like wreck the car or do something and just left it there and Secret Service had to intervene and all this stuff. And all of these people were cleaning up his mess. That's why it didn't make, no one knew about it until he wrote about it in his memoir. Is that not something? The son of the Vice President of the United States does this and you don't know about it. Is that not something? Cain?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know why you're attacking baby Hunter Biden.
SPEAKER 19 :
I would love to get breaks like this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
I would love to get as many breaks as these Biden brats get. His daughter is my age. I am a grown ass woman. His daughter is my age and she leaves her diary in a flop house. And they discover it and they make a big fit like that's not ours. It's fake news. It's more Russian stuff while they're raiding reporters houses to get it. And then they get it back and then they sued the drug addict, the recovering addict that found it and try to put her in jail because she found it like forever. Like, again, another situation. Hunter Biden left his laptop for almost actually was 18 months. Ashley Biden's diary was found there after she had moved out like eight months, nine months later. Never came back for it. Never expressed any interest in it. And it wasn't until any Joe Biden doesn't intervene until his kids actions hurt him. And then he gets involved because he's such a caring dad. Sorry, but if you have two kids who are messed up like this and they're from two different women, the common denominator here is you. You're a crap dad. You're a bad dad. And we need to be we need to you're a bad parent if your kids are like doing the stuff that Hunter and Ashley Biden are doing. I know in society we can't say that because no one wants to have their feelings hurt. No one wants to be indicted for messing up as a parent. Nobody wants to do that. Well, get over it because it happened and you suck. This is bad. I would love to have these breaks. It sounds like he's still the Biden still want to be kingmaker or they I don't think they ever were kingmaker. Let me rephrase that. They want to have a life after the White House as kingmakers. That's that's kind of like the feel that I'm getting from this a little bit. Now, coming up, I got to switch gears here. So. Paramount. struck a five-year deal worth $1.5 billion with Trey Parker and Matt Stone, South Park. They're going to produce 10 new episodes per year of South Park. So it's like $30 million an episode, right? This show has lasted for so long. It's actually pretty amazing. So this is good news. I think it's very good news. So they're getting... It's a five-year deal... 1.5 billion. Now, they fired Colbert. Paramount did. And now they're going to be able to hire a show that actually retains viewers and grows viewership. Huge streaming deal. So they got the global streaming rights for South Park. So they're bringing it to Paramount Plus. Where is it right now? Is it like on Hulu or something? South Park? didn't comedy central have its own like little app and then it's gone now i don't think that they keep it up anymore is comedy central still wait first off is that a thing anymore so sidebar i don't even the only reason i keep cable is to watch c-span and then um literally just like two news stations i'm not even lying that's literally i don't i don't watch it i do not watch cable at all do you watch cable And I found I haven't even really, the past couple of years, I haven't been watching C-SPAN really.
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You're right, I don't have. I mean, usually we get clips of things now instead of watching full. Like in the old days, we'd have to watch a full thing to find out what the time code and what we wanted out of it. But nowadays.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, I'm like, do I want to keep it or just get rid of it? And if I want to stream a news network, I'll just put that on or flip back and forth between them. I mean, I need to do the math on that. Like what's the cost? Because I don't even know why I have cable. I have not watched cable before. I have not sat down and watched anything on cable in five years.
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For some people, it's how they get the Internet into their home. So it's like a combo package for some of these companies. So some people can't get rid of their cable. They just have Internet. They probably don't consume cable. They probably consume more online content.
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And I wonder, too, that I know it makes everybody mad because you have to subscribe to so many different apps. Like if you want one thing, you got to, and I don't want to, I don't want to do all that stuff either. I get you. Like you need a one stop. I get it. So I don't know. But I mean, I, that's right. I didn't even know if Comedy Central, I just remember seeing it on, I don't know if it was Hulu or where it was. So now the show, Five Year Deal, 1.5 billion. That's going to be 300 million a year. This is crazy. And that's it. The deal apparently is still being finalized. But it is one of the... I think it's one of the longest running shows. This show came out right when I started college. I was a freshman in college. I think when this show launched. Either that or senior in high school. I don't remember. It was like right there. I was like 17, 18 years old when this show launched. Because I graduated when I was 17. So I... I mean, that's how long this show's been on. I've raced, like, you know, I've got two kids. I have a whole family. That's how long this show's been on. How wild is that? I don't know any other show that's had the longevity that South Park has. So interesting. So I... There are a lot of, like, really jealous creators out there over the South Park stuff. And I do think it's fabulous that... Let me add this for some context, too. If this was just about Trump not liking Colbert, South Park's made fun of him, too. South Park, they make fun literally of everybody. They are equal opportunity offenders. They make fun of everybody. But there's a difference. They do it to have fun. Stephen Colbert does it because he's an old crank. That's why. There's a big difference. He's just a mean-spirited, nasty old crank. That's what he is.
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One way makes money, and Colbert's way doesn't.
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I mean, ridicule is fabulous. It is powerful. It's funny. It's unifying. And it's somewhat based in truth. But when South Park does it, they're not being mean-spirited. It is hysterical when they do it. And it makes sense. And it's written well. And the voice actors, they're good voice actors. Stephen Colbert is just mean. Isn't he? He's just mean. And he tries to wrap his mean-spiritedness in, I guess, he thinks he gets a pass for it because he's a comedian. Lorraine reminds me, so Simpsons started in 1989, still running. South Park started in 97. Simpsons are the same way. They make fun of everything. If you want to be successful, you can make fun of everything and you can do it and still have fun. It's when you lose the good humor about it that it makes it just insufferable, as Colbert's found out. We have Florida Maine on the way as we roll. Our partners that help bring you the program, the folks over at Burn a Gun. I'm always going to tell people to carry a firearm. And I'm always going to tell people to train and use lethal force in defense of themselves or loved ones. I mean, I will. But I also realize that there are times when you are going to be denied your ability to carry, whether it's a municipal restriction or a gun-free zone, private property, whatever it is. You don't want to be made defenseless because gun-free zones only work as advertising for criminals that are illegally armed. They don't do anything for the innocent people that end up being prey for those folks. So this is why you need to look at your options and diversify what you have in terms of weaponry. And the Burna Compact Launcher is a good start. So Burna Gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. And it's easy to get. I mean, there's no background checks. There is no there's no waiting periods. They're not nothing like that. You don't have to pay any kind of like fees, additional fees. It can be shipped right to your door. Doesn't care about gun free zone signs. And it's legal in all 50 states. And the C.L., That's their most compact launcher. It's small, easy to carry. I mean, there's no recoil, easy target acquisition. And compared to regular stun guns that have one or two rounds, the Berna gun has five. So you have a lot of flexibility, legal flexibility as well. I think this is a good idea, particularly for college kids that are not old enough to carry handguns, but are old enough to live by themselves in different towns. And, you know, they want to be able to defend themselves. This is a great option. The Burna SD is the most popular selling. The CL is more compact. They have other models, but for the purposes of what we're discussing, those are the two that I recommend. And you can check both of them out at Burna.com slash Dana. Burna CL is the new one, and that's the one that's the size basically of a smartphone. B-Y-R-N-A dot com slash Dana.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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All right, so this Florida headline is pretty something. Naked man found hiding in tanning bed after trying to set Florida gym on fire. So I guess he was doing the Jersey Shore GTL. Gym, tan, laundry. Gym, tan, laundry. Video shows deputies arresting a man who tried to set fire to a Florida gym before he was found laying naked in a tanning bed. Body camera footage released by the Lee County Sheriff's Office shows them respond, of course it's a Planet Fitness. Do they have like those things? They have those tanning beds at Planet Fitness? That makes all the sense in the world. That makes so much sense now. They got reports that a naked man was running through the gym, crawling into the ceiling, and trying to start a fire in the bathroom. Then they are searching. Oh, I guess it is. They do have them there. Really? Well, they serve donuts there, too, at Planet Fitness, from what I heard. Yeah, you didn't know that? No. Yeah, so that makes sense that they do this, too. It's like fitness, but not. So they are searching the gym with guns drawn and canine before they find the man naked in a tanning bed. 25-year-old Henry with two R's for some reason, Alvarado, was taken into custody and placed in a patrol car. They had to wrap him in a towel. The deputy goes, I'm going to wrap you up because you left cheek marks. Oh, God. Yeah. So he ran around. He climbed into the ceiling, knocked down ceiling tiles. He did all kinds of stuff. So he's got a number of charges. I know. Let's see. A Florida man gets a... He wins a DUI after he plays a game of drive a lawnmower into busy roads. Wow. What a fun game. Don't do it. So a Florida man... got picked up by police because he drove his riding lawnmower down a busy toll road while he was drunk six ways to Sunday. Christopher Spain, 38. He went out for a little drive or a mow. And when he failed to signal or it wasn't because he failed to signal or because he sped, they said he was driving erratically. How do you drive erratically in a lawnmower? I mean, for whatever reason, when you give me small objects that have power, I can't drive them very well. But I could probably drive a lawnmower like better than this guy. And so he apparently drove the thing on a toll road. Witnesses called police and they made clear that they were able to catch him and they took him into custody. He's got a DUI charge. Stick with us. We've got more in store. Third hour next.
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CBS, our network, CBS, who I want to reiterate have always been great partners, put out a statement saying very nice things about me and about the show, and thank you to them for that. They clarified that the cancellation was purely a financial decision. But how could it purely be a financial decision if The Late Show is number one in ratings? A lot of folks... It's confusing. A lot of folks are asking that question, mainly my staff's parents and spouses. Over the weekend, somebody at CBS followed up their gracious press release with a gracious anonymous leak saying they pulled the plug on our show because of losses pegged between $40 million and $50 million a year. $40 million is a big number. I could see us losing $24 million, but where would Paramount have possibly spent the other $16 million? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
oh they just spent a hundred and something on uh south park because they're funnier than you golly i can't wait till he's off air because i just he's just not funny he's mad imagine being mad and bad and then complaining that people don't just like give you participation trophies why does he act like such a millennial he's like isn't he i don't know how old he is but he's like 60 something isn't he I don't know. I really don't know. I don't care. Don't tell me because I don't care. I really don't. I just don't care. Welcome back to the program. Kill us all now because that's the the left is actually can't even deal with him. They apparently we got a deal, a trade deal. White House and Philippines made a trade deal per the Hill. They agreed to the trade deal with the U.S. They're going to lower tariffs on it. I like how they first there's immediately right in that first sentence. Can you check your stories before you run with your typos? Philippines has agreed to a trade deal with the United States that will lower U.S. tariffs on its experts to 19%. Lower your tariffs on your experts. Well, dang. I mean, what were the experts tariffed at, Cain?
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't know. I was looking for the info on exports, though.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, well, that's not what we're talking about, is it, sir? We're talking about experts. Now, I don't know what type of experts... I mean, I know it's a typo, but still. The O is on the other side of the keyboard from the E. It really is. It really is. It's like way over there.
SPEAKER 14 :
It takes a whole other hand.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know. I'm saying. So they said it's a great visit. They're going to pay 19% tariff and they're going to work together militarily. And so it's, I mean, it goes from 20 to 19%. I don't know. You get a discount. Trump announced a 17 percent duty on imports from the Philippines in the spring that was on his liberation day. But he said it would go up to it would go up to 20 percent is what he says. So now he's now he's at 19 percent. I don't care. OK, good. Great. Let's get some. Let's get trade deals. Dear heavens, let's do this, please. That's what we've been needing to do. Something has to happen. All right, I promised you that I was going to share with you this way that white progressives are trying to aggravate John Roberts and conservatives. This is actually hysterical. Do you kayak, Cain?
SPEAKER 14 :
Let me start with this. I have, but it's been so long, and I don't think I ever will again.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, I've kayaked. I don't like it. Because it makes me pretend that I can't use my legs. And I feel like I'm trapped. And I don't like that. I don't. What if you fall over? What if it tips over? And then you're, I'm sure that there's a way that it doesn't do that. But what if? You know, what if? Anyway, so progressives in Maine. This is a What About Bob episode or sequel. They kayaked to the summer home of Chief Supreme Court Justice John Roberts to protest the extremist agenda and demand resistance to tyranny. And it looks, if I'm being honest, it looks really lame. I mean, you have a bunch of like basically granola people. They love their granola. and they're oh my gosh you guys they made an actual whole video oh my gosh they actually made like a whole produced video oh my gosh they actually did yeah yeah yeah yeah it's on my run down they um made a whole video of this where they um i guess one of them has a drone Hopper Island flotilla. They called it a flotilla. Wait, let's... One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Nine kayaks. There's nine whole kayaks. Nine whole kayaks. And they called it a flotilla. And they... I don't know what they're doing. I'm watching this video and they're just basically in the water way, way, way, way far away from his house. That's on his summer house. I guess it's on the land. I don't know where his summer house is. And they are sitting there and I don't know what they're doing. What was the point of this exercise? Juan's showing you the video. Okay, someone explain to me how this is supposed to be a protest.
SPEAKER 14 :
I was told there was a flotilla.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, yeah, but it's just a bunch of like granola eaters and tofu and hemp weavers. And they're just in the water there. They're just there doing whatever God knows what. What are they doing? They're just sitting there. Oh, now they're all together in that video. Look, now they're all together. I feel like Snoop Dogg narrating Nat Geo. Look at all these hippies. Oh, there's somebody in a little raft. That's not a kayak. Liar. So what is the point of this? A bunch of dorks get in their kayaks and they go sit in the water like weirdos outside of John Roberts' summer home? This is why I would have alligator snapping turtles and I would release them all into the water just then. What is the point of this? I don't even know which one is his house. I guess the one where they keep trying to fly the drone up near his house? Yes. So what is this? This is a protest. Nobody knows what this is about. It just looks. What is the purpose of it? You waste a beautiful day sitting in a kayak outside, somewhat outside, like somewhat kind of near somebody's house. That's all it is. Kane, that's all it is. I'm helping. Look at me. They had a float. Oh, they had signs that read that no one could read from shore. that said, shame, protect democracy, and you made a king. And then they had little signs that lined the road that you can't read, like they're like the size of a piece of paper. You can't even read them.
SPEAKER 14 :
How do we message?
SPEAKER 19 :
Can I just, wait, can we just, I mean, these are rich white people in their kayaks, number one. They're just, I'm going to go out and protest in my kayak. Okay. Can we start protesting people at their homes for stuff? Okay, because here's why. Because I saw a chick that was wearing nude colored leggings. Nobody should ever wear those. She was wearing nude colored leggings. And I saw her in the grocery store in the frozen food section. And I was like, what? I just saw a pantsless person. And it took me a hot second to realize, no, those are her legs. And she's, my grandmother says, would say leggings like this. And I can't say it like I used to anymore. I have to say it the way she does. And this woman was in leggings. Okay. Nude colored leggings and had black flip flops on. First off, leggings aren't pants. Maybe put on shoes. And I just think that if you're going out in sweats and workout gear, you're just giving up in life. I subscribe to the Karl Lagerfeld theory of dress. You don't leave your house in sweats and you don't wear leggings as pants. Especially, there's never any time that nude leggings is okay. So the reason I'm asking this is because are we just going to start randomly protesting people for things we dislike? Because I would be so busy if that's the case. Right?
SPEAKER 14 :
You could get some people involved with your cause.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, show up like leggings aren't pants with like signs you could actually read like ban nude leggings. Nude leggings is tyranny. That's the kind of stuff, you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dude, leggings is tyranny. Is that what you said?
SPEAKER 19 :
I said that, yep. That's what I said. It's is, not or. It's is. Just things like that, you know. Or, I don't know. I mean, I just, maybe we can do stuff like that. This is such a rich, progressive way to protest, by the way. Guys, I have an idea. Let's go get on our kayaks. Yeah. Aren't they expensive? Hang on. I don't know anything about kayaks. I don't care if it's live radio. I'm asking the internet.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't think they're that expensive. Maybe they are. Kayaks are expensive.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, answer. Oh, yeah, they are, actually. Oh, wait, no. Yeah, they're actually not, like, super cheap. They're very expensive.
SPEAKER 09 :
Really?
SPEAKER 19 :
Prices vary. Yeah, I mean... apparently yeah they're like five hundred thousand dollars apparently what i don't know i'd rather just have a giant kayak kayaking is not like a totally is it as expensive as hockey probably not but anyway i just think that that's like the most progressive the most trust fund socialist way to protest is guys let's go get in our kayaks and let's go kayak over to John Roberts' summer home. Let's leave our summer homes and our kayaks and go to John Roberts' summer home, and let's go protest him from our kayaks. Oh, yes, Steve knows. Well, first were, well, they would leave their summer homes and they would get in their kayaks and paddle over. And then what do you do? Like, that's so anticlimactic. You're there protesting with your sign. You got to balance your paddle and you got your sign. Like, do you have like chants or something? I don't know. The thing I love most is that they made a very well produced. They made a very well produced video. My dog just broke into the studio. They made a very, you can't come in here. But you can't, though. But you can't. So Wick is trying to break in. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But that's not for puppies. Anyway, he's mad because he heard about the kayakers. So Wick learned how to open gates.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can't, though. He's more of a John.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's not for puppies. It's not for puppies.
SPEAKER 14 :
Kind of guy.
SPEAKER 19 :
So he learned how to open gates. Juan's showing you right now. So they had a drone. Who's controlling the drone? So they had a drone that made all this footage and did this super well-produced video. And this is so self-glorifying. I want to throw a big old boulder right in between the kayaks and just have the waves go.
SPEAKER 14 :
What's the next level of protesting? Is it helicopters? Hey, guys, let's get in our helicopters. Let's fly over someone's summer home.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, we're going to go take our choppers and go fly over someone else's mansion. We're going to leave our mansions in our kayaks and we're going to paddle over. And then we're going to protest and then we're going to. This is me paddling fast. Paddling back over.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's what we're doing. Let's imagine a time right before the kayakers showed up at Robert's home. And now let's think of the time right after they left. What was the difference? Was there any sort of change? Was there an addition to policy that somehow popped up because of it? What did they do by floating by and sitting around for a little bit?
SPEAKER 19 :
No. I would walk out with a brewski on my deck and be like, what's up losers?
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SPEAKER 14 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 19 :
Really sad breaking news just now. Ozzy Osbourne dead at age 76 years old. It's now being announced by everyone from Hollywood Reporter to TMZ. The Osbournes apparently said in a statement that he died, died today surrounded by love. That is with more sadness than mere words can convey that we have to report that our beloved Ozzy Osbourne has passed away this morning. They said he was with his family, surrounded by love. We ask everyone to respect our family privacy at this time. This was just a couple of weeks after he played his The Farewell Show with Sabbath, The Farewell Show. So he went out on his own terms. Unbelievable. Wow. I mean, you're just one of those guys you thought would live forever. We'll have more on that coming up. But Ozzy Osbourne now dead at age 76, just announced by the family. Also, some of our latest headlines. We're going to have more on that, like I said, coming up. We also have. This, let's see, an engine of a Boeing passenger plane burst into flames during takeoff. Another Boeing plane. And also, there is a, well, what, is the do not drink order, it was lifted in Port Angeles after a fuel tanker spill. That's KIRO Channel 7 that first reported that. And that was just the other day. They said they finally lifted the do not drink order for residents after a tanker truck carrying gas and diesel overturned in Indian Creek. So a lot of stuff happening. Ozzy Osbourne dead at 76 years. We have that and more coming up. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Gosh, this is one of the best songs, too. Ozzy Osbourne, dead at age 76. Well, Mama, I'm coming home. And this is one of my absolute favorite songs that anybody has ever done. I mean, No More Tears is amazing. Crazy Train. I mean, the catalog of his music is amazing. And it's like, man, this is this is a bummer. 76 years old. That seems so young, right? That seems so young. Steve, can we wait until at least it hits the chorus? I mean, it's going to take a little bit to get there. Those of you who are watching the stream, you're like, what? We're playing it for the radio folks in the background. But it's such a great track. Mama, I'm Coming Home. That's such a great track. Dead at 76. And it was just announced by the family. They released a statement. But goodness. Yeah, this song, this was, was this released in 90? Something like 90, I think, 91, something like that. I just, I remember when this song came out, I think I was in sixth or seventh grade. And I thought, man, this is like such a great song. And I remember, don't laugh at me. I had my Sony Discman, you know, my Sony Discman that you had to hold like this because if you bumped it at all, it'd skip. But we'd drive back from the Ozarks from my family and I'd have my little, my little headphones on and I'd listen to the song leaving. And there's a chorus that kicks in. Oh, so good. So good. Dead at 76 years old. Now, you guys know I'm, I'm, Kane and I are big fans. Big music aficionados. I like all good music. It doesn't matter. I'll go in any genre. Love Black Sabbath. Love Ozzy Osbourne. I've seen them live. I don't know how many times I've been to Ozzfest. In fact, one of the coolest moments of my life, it was backstage at something because we knew some mutual people and I was seven months pregnant with my second son. And it was something that members of Sabbath were doing. And Gieser Butler was backstage. And I found myself standing literally right next to Gieser Butler. Could not have been nicer. He was incredibly nice. And he was very concerned because I was very pregnant. And he was just like, are you all right? Would you like to sit down? And, you know, he was very nice. But, yeah, just, man, Ozzy had a very, what? How many comebacks did this guy have? I mean, he never really left. But think of it. How many, not comebacks, how many iterations in his career did he have successfully? That is an accomplishment in and of itself. I mean, after, I think, when did he start doing the Osbournes? When they start doing the reality show. That, I think, was one of the big moments for reality television. That is literally the only reality show I ever watched was the Osbournes. Yeah. I'm not into, like, reality TV. I've never been into reality TV. They've... You know, he's... That show is interesting. And he still toured. He still toured. I liked his work that he did with Zach Wild. I mean, you know, goodness. Everything that he did was good. I loved the duet that he did with Lita Ford, Close My Eyes Forever. Gosh, do you remember, Kane, when that track hit? I mean, it's still... That's still... is a great track. So 76 years of age. And we were talking on break. So, uh, Keith Richards is how old? How old is Keith Richards? Yeah. He's like 11,000 years old. He's still at ease. Yeah. He's still out there playing. But yeah, his first... Can you imagine your Ozzy Osbourne and your first solo album and the first track... The hit track off your debut solo album is Crazy Train. How many people strike gold like that? That's such a great track. Such a great track. And then, of course... Des Moines, Iowa is forever going to be famous, well, for a number of reasons, the least of which include the bat biting. He did think, in his defense, he thought that that was a fake bat that someone threw on stage. He didn't think it was real until... And I watched an interview with him where he didn't actually know it was real until he bit into it. He wasn't trying to, like, eat a bat. I mean, I don't know. Unless he was pulling our leg in that, I don't know. But, man, there's not a lot of... Every now and then you get these pop culture events that happen, and I think it really kind of like sharpens perspective of everything. And one of the things that really struck out to me is how important I think live music is and rock and roll. It's not music today is different. It's very different. And you see how big bands are that incorporate a lot of, you know, the more old school sound and old school instrumentation. I have to say old school instrumentation because everything seems to be like computer generated. But man, I don't know. I hope everybody's like blasting some Aussie today. That's just wild that. Yeah. Everyone's like, man, this hits hard. It does. It's crazy. He said, I don't know. He's just one of those guys that you think is going to live forever. Like Keith Richards, right? Like Keith Richards is the only thing that's going to be left on this planet. And a hundred, like, you know, several years, a hundred thousand years in the future, we'll have Nokia, old Nokia, flip phones, cockroaches, and Keith Richards, Keith Richards. He's his only good. And I don't say that as being mean. That man figured out how to live through everything. And I thought Ozzie would be another one. I really did. I thought he would be another one. Man, so he was able to go out, though, on his own terms, man. He played a live show. I mean, that was just a couple of weeks ago. Craziness. Craziness. So, man, I know everyone's asking me about my grandma's rule of three, Kane. I can't keep... Lorraine goes, 76 is not young. Yes, it is, Lorraine! It is young in rock and roll! It's young! It's young!
SPEAKER 14 :
In rock and roll, it's actually not young.
SPEAKER 19 :
Stop it. Stop it, Kane.
SPEAKER 14 :
In rock and roll. True.
SPEAKER 19 :
She says Richards is, yeah, he's 81. Is it mean that I thought Keith Richards would go first?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, everyone's thinking that. Right? We've been thinking that since the 90s. We've been thinking that since the 90s.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, we've been thinking of it since the 90s. Man! So, yeah, if you're just joining us, Ozzy Osbourne, absolutely legendary, has passed away, age 76 years old. And, man, just pretty unbelievable. Pretty unbelievable. They said that, I mean, this is just weeks after his final show. Didn't he go out sitting in a chair? He was out on the throne for his final show. And, honestly, like, his voice, his tone, and his pitch... sounded pretty dang good you got to give him credit you know um i don't know he's got he definitely lived loudly he snorted ants once didn't he did he snort ants in front of motley crew isn't that the story that they were trying to like one up each other and then he snorted a bunch of ants and they were like oh my gosh yeah So I don't know. He's got I mean, he helped define and I think mainstay an entire genre. And I think he like really they got a lot of I think they got a lot of heat for being because they're like, oh, you're in the occult and you're into all of this. I mean, it was a stage performance, no less than Alice Cooper was a stage performance. And Alice Cooper is an absolute devout Christian. and I would put up his charitable work against anybody's any day of the week. You know, Ozzy maybe less so, but it was about theater. It was about theatrical performance. That's what it was. But he was able to, I think, survive through so many different things, not just in music, but so many different controversies. And he always came back because he always made good music. I always think that should be like a lesson for people, especially like when you have controversies in politics. You know, you can better weather controversy if you have a good body of work to stand on. And that's why a lot of the clickbait whoredom and influencing and all of that's just such trash. It's why they're a dime a dozen and people come and go, you got to be able to stand on your body of work. And that's one of the things, whether it's music or anything, you can see that it's incredibly evident for him. He sold over 100 million records. Golly. Golly, 100 million records. Just unbelievable. But, yeah, he's, I don't know, he's always, it just always seemed like he was a mainstay, that he was going to be a mainstay. So, goodness. Anything to add, Kane? Anything to add?
SPEAKER 14 :
Not really. I mean, he's... That sound was influential for rock as a whole for many decades. And it still will be, you know, out into the future. But definitely a very influential sound.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yeah, very much so. I would absolutely agree. Very, very much so. So, wow, just craziness. Just craziness. So I'm happy I got to see him live. That's all I care about. I'm happy I got to see him perform live a couple of times and enjoyed his music. So just another one gone. I don't know. Everyone's like, Dana, grandma's rule of three because now everybody's petrified. I literally got like a handful of emails just in the past like 20 minutes about this. I don't know. Kane, you got to keep track of this. Who's the third now? Or is that three? Are we safe for a while? What's up?
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, I think that's technically three because, I mean, if you think about it, this guy, Tom Troop. Who? Tom Troop. He was in Star Trek and Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, he doesn't count.
SPEAKER 14 :
He doesn't count? No, he don't count. Okay. Well, he would have made three then.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, you have to know him.
SPEAKER 14 :
Theo Huxtable.
SPEAKER 19 :
Theo Huxtable.
SPEAKER 14 :
And then we've got Ozzy Osbourne.
SPEAKER 19 :
There was someone else before Theo.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
So that would be three.
SPEAKER 14 :
But that was a while ago, right?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, but it's like if it's in. So for the people who have no idea what I'm talking about, God love her. God rest her soul. I don't want to get haunted. But my grandmother had like some really crazy rules and really crazy like superstitions. So she had this rule of three. Deaths are always in threes and it has to be somebody that you know of or that you know, like somebody famous of whom you know of them or somebody that you actually personally know. And if there's a fourth and it starts all over again. Right. But it's always in threes. She's never been wrong. I'm just saying. So whenever we have a celebrity death or a political or whatever it is, we have to go by the rule of three. So I can't remember who. I swear there was... I thought there was like a third one, but, you know, I... I don't remember. I don't remember now. My brain just got fried because of this news. I don't remember who the third one is. Anyway, I'll mull it over tonight. But a couple of other things to get into. Connie Francis. Thank you, Steve. Vegas Larry. God love you, Vegas Larry. Vegas Larry's got the memory that's going to save us all. Connie Francis. Theo Huxtable, a.k.a. Malcolm Jamal Warner, and now Ozzy. So that's three.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's three. So it starts over.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. So we're, now if there's another one, then the rule three starts again. I didn't make this rule. My granny boots, and they called her boots because she was mean. I don't know how that makes sense, but that's what they did. That's her rule, and that's what we got to roll by. So, man alive. Oh, all right. What? This is the most depressing segment of radio ever. We can't go out. We can't go into a break like this. I feel like Casey Kasem now. You can't go from an uptempo song into a dog death. If you guys have no idea what I'm talking about, you need to Google Casey Kasem dog. Just Google it. And then there's going to be this video where he's pre-taping a program and he's very upset because he has to go from an uptempo song, right? From a song into this dedication of a dog death. And he's like, he gets so mad. He gets so mad about it. And he just works himself up into a fit over it.
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Who didn't, when they were learning to play guitar, try to get this line? Who didn't try to do that? Actually, no, I did, so I can't. I play a really bad rhythm guitar, but I can play. But yeah, I mean, after that, you know, like breaking into the verse, like, no, I'm done now at that point. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. And we were talking about Ozzy Osbourne because he passed away at age 76. That's like an iconic thing, I think, for just like music. And it's one of the water cooler things. And when I say a water cooler thing, I mean, there's different things that happen in pop culture that everyone can be like, wait a minute, pause for a moment. Democrat, Republican, whatever, independent, DEI, non-DEI. And everybody can be like, wait a minute, there's a commonality here. That happens so hardly at all anymore, right? And It just pulls you out of your little individual silos and you're back, for the lack of a better way to put it, in Earth's gen pop, right? You're pulled out of your own little silo and you're like, wait a minute, we all liked him? We all liked his music? Yes. And, you know, I'm sure we didn't agree on everything and that's irrelevant. He still made great, you know, had great songs. He had really good songs. But that's one of the reasons why this is like also something that, you know, you kind of hover over a little bit. But because it was just one of those, it's one of those things, one of those unifying things, the water cooler moment. But man, that's a great song. Randy Rhodes is on that song. I think he's got he's got a he helped write. He's got a songwriting credit on that on that track, too. That was from his debut album. And that was like his his like debut song off it. That's crazy to have such a barn burner like right out of the gate. But yeah, I and I said to Kane, I'm like, are we going to have a bunch of sissies now? We don't have like a lot of we don't have very many really good old school rock and rollers anymore. We don't. People who threw caution to the wind and embraced what that what it's kind of all about. You know, you just you embrace. I'm not saying sin and excess. Get over it for a minute. But that. Audible journey. I don't know how else to put it, Cain.
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No, it's more formulaic now. Back then it was just kind of discovering some new ground. Now it's all formulaic.
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People would get into a room and they'd jam and they'd write a song. Nowadays you've got session musicians and computers and they're like, well, okay, this group likes this melody, so we're going to put the oh, oh, oh in every song.
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Everybody's barring traits.
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The millennial yodel.
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They're barring traits from people who blaze trails. That's what everyone's doing now. Yeah.
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All right. Today in stupidity.
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Well, I guess we can use Jamie Lee Curtis because there's so much stupid. It's hard to choose. It was just sort of that just pointed right at it. So let's do cut 11 one. Listen to this.
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It's bad. He's a great, great guy. Just cut NPR and public broadcasting. Yes, they're trying to silence people, but that won't work.
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You having federal dollars, having them taken away is not the same thing as a right being violated.
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Yeah, nobody's rights were violated. Nobody had their rights violated. Folks, that does it for us today. Have a good rest of your evening. I will be back with you tomorrow.
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In this engaging episode, Mike Gallagher takes listeners on a journey from the perceived political biases in the media to real-life impacts on celebrities stemming from political changes. Unpack the reasons behind Stephen Colbert's show struggles while understanding the broader narrative of Hollywood figures like Ellen DeGeneres adapting to unexpected life turns in response to political events. This conversation weaves together humor, societal critique, and a call to action for supporting flood-ravaged Texas, highlighting the show’s commitment to audience engagement and civic responsibility.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Trying to figure out the conversation I could be having with my executives, my bosses here at this company. Mike, you're losing $40 million a year, and we're going to have to make a change here. Well, wait a minute. I have important things to say. I bash all the right people. What do you mean? MAGA loves me. Yeah, but Mike, you're losing $40 million a year. But my show is important. I get good ratings. This Colbert story is wild. Watching the left melt down over CBS, getting rid of a show that is an albatross around their neck, $40 million a year, and you don't understand why they're pulling the plug? Yeah. If the show was making $40 million a year, he'd be fine. What's hard to understand about? Well, it's because he is a Trump critic, don't you know? So when you're a Trump critic, you can't be messed with. You know what's strange? There was a protest, by the way, outside the Ed Sullivan Theater in New York City. And it's the funniest protest in the history of protests. These dummies standing out in front of the theater with signs that say, Colbert must stay, Trump must go. You made a sign for that? Colbert stays, Trump must go. And there's like 30, it's the same look of the same protesters everywhere in America. Miserable white hippies. White boomers, they're all white, standing outside the Ed Sullivan Theater, clapping their hands, saying Colbert stays, Trump must go. I mean, first of all, let's just stipulate, Trump has absolutely, completely broken many, many people in the United States. Broke them. Broke them. I don't care what Democrat got elected in our lifetime. None of them broke us. Joe Biden's election in 2020 was the stuff of nightmares with COVID and all that horrible time we lived through. Didn't break anybody. We didn't lose our marbles. We didn't go bat crap crazy. Rosie O'Donnell, Ellen DeGeneres fleeing the country. Ellen is now, I'm not kidding you, minding chickens on a farm in the UK. That's Ellen DeGeneres. She's been reduced to fleeing to England where she has a chicken farm. And she's, I give you my word, I'm not making this up, she's petting and talking to chickens that she has named. I saw the video last night. She's got short, dark, dark hair. Evidently, she always dyed her hair. Okay. Or maybe she dyed it dark. Who knows? Who cares? Ellen DeGeneres, famous comedian. She's living on a chicken farm, talking to the chickens. I think we've got to find that clip, Christian, because I saw that last night. I almost fell off the couch. Rosie O'Donnell in Ireland, hiding out, but posting anti-Trump videos like a madwoman. You could almost see the spittle coming out of her mouth. It's like, wait a minute, you left the country, okay, you got the means to do that. And let's give a little bit of a shout-out to them. I mean, a little acknowledgement. If you say you're going to leave the country if an election doesn't go your way, well, then good. Leave the country and then go away. But Rosie can't stop because she's been broken. These are broken, damaged, deranged people. Here's Colbert last night. with one of the stupidest questions any broadcaster has ever asked. Now, Stephen Colbert has been around long enough to understand how this works. If you've got a talk show, you've got to make money for your company. You can't lose tens of millions of dollars a year and expect, I mean, does Stephen Colbert think losing $40 million is good for business? Here he was last night because these imbeciles at CBS are going to let him spout off for the next 10 months. Here he was just last night.
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CBS, our network, CBS, who I want to reiterate have always been great partners, put out a statement saying a very, you know, very nice things about me and about the show. And thank you to them for that. They clarified that the cancellation was purely a financial decision. But how could it purely be a financial decision if The Late Show is number one in ratings? A lot of folks.
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Yeah, that's right. Hear for me a little louder. Well, you know what that means that you've got the highest ratings? You're the tallest dwarf. That means you're the tallest dwarf because late night TV on the networks, they're getting their butts kicked. Greg Gutfeld is kicking their butts. Cable news beats them. YouTube beats them. It's not what it used to be. Now, maybe he's got an internal beef with CBS. All right, he thinks he's got good ratings. Why aren't they monetizing that? That's a relatively reasonable thing to ask. Maybe because you're toxic. Maybe because advertisers don't want to come near you with your... unhinged, wild-eyed, unfunny rants against Republicans every night. Maybe that's what it is. You're supposed to be a late-night variety show, and your headliners are dolts like Adam Schiff and Hakeem Jeffries. Wow. What a weird, weird time to be alive. And here's Stephen Colbert trying to be funny responding to Trump mocking Colbert's cancellation.
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Friday, Donald Trump posted, I absolutely love that Colbert got fired. His talent was even less than his ratings.
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How dare you, sir? Would an untalented man be able to compose the following satirical witticism? Go f*** yourself.
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Now, I know that's an attempt at humor, but I will tell you this. If you're watching the clip along with us playing it here on Salem News Channel, you see complete rage in his face. Him telling Trump to go F himself, disguised as a joke, was sheer venom. He is so angry, so melted down, so broken, and... I'm just astounded at CBS saying, you're going to give us 10 more months of this. Look, CBS, you're going to deserve all the crap that he gives you. And he did. He ripped into Paramount. He ripped into the deal, the $16 million settlement, all this stuff. He's going to do this for 10 months. And so he ran the late night show on CBS into the ground, causing it to hemorrhage money. It's unfunny. It's just MSNBC on CBS on late night. And now CBS is going to reward this guy with 10 more months of attacks. Boy, it makes a lot of sense. Makes a lot of sense. You think I'm kidding about the Ellen DeGeneres thing? Where do you see and hear the clip of Ellen DeGeneres? who is now living on a chicken farm, minding the chickens. In England. I'll bet you didn't know that. You do now. PhD weight loss has changed my life. And I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition. A proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com. reasonable could say why do we care about Ellen DeGeneres or Rosie O'Donnell look I have a confession to make I mean I think Ellen DeGeneres is a talented lady I like her I mean I like her work I don't know I don't care about her politics and I understand there's plenty of people who say look I wouldn't spend a nickel to see Ellen DeGeneres I get that that's okay if I stopped going to movies or watching TV shows or you know engaging in the culture over people that I don't align with politically, I'd never leave the House. And I like to be entertained, and I find her entertaining. I admit it. And to see what she's been reduced to is wild to me. I mean, to see the way Trump has broken these people amazes me. I want to play this clip. This is on social media. And evidently she's proud of this. And she confirmed that right after the election, she left the United States for the UK. She fled the country. She became so disillusioned with America. Because let's face it, these people who are leaving the country because of Trump, it's not because of Trump, it's because of the American people. Because they're in the minority. Most people favor a secure border. Most people voted for mass deportations. Most people want the rule of law returned, restored. Most people want a better economy. Most people want a roaring stock market and low unemployment. These are the things people voted for that they didn't get from Democrats. But okay, you didn't get what you wanted, so you say, I'm going to pick up my marbles and I'm going to go to another country. Here's Ellen DeGeneres. I want to play this video for you. And again, she posted this proudly, evidently, on social media. This is in the UK. Hit it. Here she is.
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Ow, these things are sharp even through the gloves.
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She's got a pair of shears and she's trimming back bushes in the UK. Now she's got a weed whacker. Okay, she's standing there with the weed whacker and a mask on. Of course, with the mask. I'm probably left over from her collection during COVID. There she is and she's nodding and she's... Now here comes the best part. There she is with the chickens. She's calling the chickens. Bring it up full, Eric. They're all gathering. She's feeding the chickens. Here, chicken, chicken. Here, chicky, chicky.
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Linda likes to go straight to the source.
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Linda.
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She's got one of them named.
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She named one of them Linda Blair. Come on, Mabel. Mabel. She's got another one named Mabel. She's named the chickens in her chicken coop. She's literally got a chicken coop now. Look, she's petting Mabel. She's now petting the chicken. Wow. So, again, you bring it back to me. Honest to gosh, I mean this from the heart. Do you ever stop, and maybe you never even give people like Ellen DeGeneres a second thought, and I understand that. But isn't, I love observing people. I do. When I'm in a mall, I like to sit on the bench and just watch the world go by. I like to figure out stories. I like to look at this lady with her husband or the family. I just like that. And human nature intrigues me. Human psychology fascinates me. Are you not fascinated by the way people are broken by a political outcome that they don't like? Do you understand the political nature of of people broken like this. Do you get that? Because I honestly don't. I think we ought to have a little bit of empathy, maybe a little bit of compassion. I mean, there are people who say that their whole life has been destroyed by the outcome of an election. And I feel, in a way, very sorry for them. So I want you to give me your thoughts on this as well. Is it just me? And I can move on. There's a lot of breaking news today. We've got all kinds of stuff to cover. But can you just tell me your thoughts about people like Ellen DeGeneres? reduced to fleeing the country and living with chickens on a farm in the UK, all because the election didn't go the way she wanted it to go. 1-800-655-MIKE. We're partnering with our friends at the non-profit relief agency Food for the Poor and rushing emergency relief kits to these flood-ravaged parts of the world. 128 people confirmed dead. Many, many more are still missing. As you know, President Trump and the first lady visited the flood zone in Texas over the weekend. As you can hear, he was pretty emotional. You can hear in the sound of his voice about what he witnessed. They lost their child or two children.
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And just hard to believe what I've never seen anything like it. A little narrow river that becomes a monster.
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They're going to love the deals that President Trump and I are doing. I mean, they're just going to love them. You know, the president figured out the right answer and sent letters to these countries, said this is going to fix the trade deficit. This will go a long way to fixing the trade deficit. And that's gotten these countries to the table. And they're going to open their markets or they're going to pay the tariff.
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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Here's my question for you, and then I promise we're going to get on to a lot of other stuff that we have covered for you today. But this is what intrigues me, and Michael from Kentucky just put it in proper perspective. He said, look, people that let an election ruin their lives need psychiatric help. No other explanation needed. These are people who are mentally unwell. So my question for you is, I mean, number one, do you agree with that? Do you think that people who are this shattered by the Trump presidency and by Republicans being in charge again are mentally ill? And were they already mentally unwell prior to the election? And this just turbocharged their challenges? Or did the election cause them to become mentally mentally ill. I'm telling you, I'm fascinated by this kind of stuff. I love talking about human behavior, why people do what they do. I could watch videos. I go to bed at night sometimes and I watch videos of people interacting with other people. You know, the Karen videos always get a lot of airplay. You know, they always get tons of, you know, viral attention. People that are just... The behavior of human beings... when it's awful, just intrigues me. So let me just ask you that question. Is Michael in Kentucky right that these are people who are mentally ill, they've got severe, or maybe not even severe, but they've got some psychological, and I'm not trying to mock mental illness or mental health challenges. That's not something that, you know, I'm making fun of. I'm just wondering if you think that the Ellen DeGeneres, and it's not about her. So I got a couple of text messages. Nobody cares about it. I get it. I know that. I know that I'm not talking about Ellen. I'm talking about anybody who got broken by November 2024. You know people like this. I know people like this. I've got people in my life. I'll probably never speak to them again. They don't want to talk to me ever again. And I'm not sure the friendship is ever coming back. There are families fractured all over America. Kids who aren't talking to their parents. Parents who aren't talking to their kids. Brothers who aren't talking to their sisters. I'm not trying to be glib here. Is it mental illness? Is that what's behind it? Tell me what you think. And again, five more minutes on this and we'll dive in. 800-655-MIKE, 23 minutes before the hour, 800-655-6453. Your call's coming up after I remind you about an extraordinary achievement. We passed $50,000 online in donations to our Food for the Poor campaign. You can see it on the counter to help the victims of the flooding in Texas. You want to feel a little better today? And to me, that's the simplest reminder. If you want a little goodness in your life, then do God's work. We're continuing our efforts through your support to help Food for the Poor reach people throughout the flooded region of Central Texas, Kerr County. Kerrville, Texas, the Camp Mystic, Cypress Lake, horrible event. A gift of $50 will rush an emergency relief kit to a hurting family displaced by the Texas floods. Right now, look at the screen. You'll see the counter, and I love that counter. If you go to MikeOnline.com and click on the Help Texas banner, you'll see right now we have raised $50,112 online. That doesn't even include the phone donations. Thank you for taking us to that level. Let's keep it going. Please go to MikeOnline.com where you can make a donation to help us rush emergency relief kits containing hygiene items, diapers, emergency medical supplies, bottled water to the victims of the Texas flooding. And thank you to Food for the Poor, this beautiful Christian ministry, truly doing God's work. Want to do a little bit of God's work? Go to MikeOnline.com right now and thank you for your support. MikeOnline.com. You could also call 844-860-HOPE. 844-860-4673. Here's Marianne, Marshall, Michigan. Marianne, thanks for your patience. Welcome to the show. How are you?
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I'm good, Mike. Thanks. I appreciate you listening to my comment about Ellen and Rosie.
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Sure.
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And I guess I just want to say, first of all, Trump didn't go out and just start battering them. They battered him.
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Correct.
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And he's struck back. And he has But I really liked Rosie. I still like her. And I wish the best for both of them. And I like Ellen, too. But nobody makes you move out of the country. We're talking about millionaires here. And the way you worded that Trump broke them, they broke themselves. Yeah, yeah. If they want to leave the country for such ridiculous reasons... That's fine. I wish the best for them.
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But Marianne, let me ask you. Do you think it's Michael in Kentucky who texted me that it's just mental illness? Is that oversimplification? Or do you think he's right?
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I believe that most people that have a need to be famous and be seen have some type of mental illness in the fact that they need attention.
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And you know what it is, Marianne, and I can speak from experience, I know some famous people, and I'm not trying to bag on them. I've got some very good friends who have had plenty of fame in their life. It's narcissism. You're right, Marianne. There's a narcissism. There's a need to be loved. I think it has to do with all the rejection. Look, Ellen DeGeneres came up through the comedy clubs, and I'm sure they were nice. She was rejected. And Rosie O'Donnell, same with her. Actors and famous people, they get rejected for jobs all the time. They want to be loved. They want to be liked. And they need that affection. And so maybe it is a type of mental health issue. Hey, great hearing from you again, Marianne. Thank you. Claire in Texas. Claire, how are you? I'm fine. How are you, Mike? I'm great. I'm great. I hope you don't mind me going off on this tangent a little bit, but I'm just so fascinated by human nature, and I want to see what you think.
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Well, I called in because I'm fascinated as well with TDS. I'm a huge Trump supporter. I know a lot of people and relatives who have very veritable symptoms of TDS. But my opinion is that many of them, yes, had already pre-existing psychiatric conditions that you might find in the DSM-5 manual of the American Psychiatric Association. TDS is not listed in DSM-5 manual, but symptoms of it are, and my opinion is that TDS is also a form of social mass hysteria, which has been very much spread through social media and media. So in our generation, the spread of information is so instantaneous. I think people learn and adapt and start mimicking as well. and playing into the whole hysteria.
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Well, you get caught up in it, Claire, and I find myself getting that way too. I'll be on social media, and I start to get anxious and stressed, and everything seems to be kind of, it's so dark, and it's so desperate, and it's so sad. I mean, people are just so angry, and there's such viciousness. But it's addictive, you know? I mean, I'll go down that rabbit hole, and I'll stay down there a long time. And look, I don't want to get swept up in it. I don't want to get caught up in that kind of darkness. And we ought to avoid that. We ought to look at light, goodness and light. This kid, I say kid, he was in his 50s, Malcolm Jamal Warner, apparently drowned accidentally. He was on vacation with his family. in Costa Rica. If you were a fan of the Cosby show, you remember young Theo, right? Bill Cosby, Bill and Felicia Rashad's son. And this guy was beloved. I mean, just, it's such a heartbreaking loss. He was 54 years old. And just days before he died, he posted something on social media. And I, it's chilling because it's, Well, let me play it for you. I do this with complete respect. I hope this doesn't come off as being morbid. But Malcolm Jamal Warner posted on his Instagram account this message shortly before his accidental drowning death in front of his family, tragically, in Costa Rica.
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What's good? I got the flower in my hair. Today's my daughter's birthday. She put the flower there, so I'm rocking it. What? It's a beautiful day here in Atlanta. I just wanted to shout out and just spread some love and some good cheer. And, you know, life is out here lifin', right, for me and for everybody else. But just wanted to remind you, as I remind myself, that no matter what's going on, there's always a reason to smile. Like, if you just take a minute to stop and take stock, I guarantee you can find at least one reason to smile. And if for some reason you can't find a reason to smile, then that's probably the best time to be the reason for somebody else to smile. So, find a smile for yourself and be a reason for someone else to smile. That's all I got. Listen to love because it's been a minute. Peace and love and I'll be back soon.
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Gosh. Isn't that heartbreaking? Isn't that heartbreaking? I'll be back soon. And tragically, he will not. And yet, his last message on social media is one that we all ought to take to heart. That we ought to smile. We ought to take time to appreciate a little flower that our daughter gives us. He put it over his ear for his daughter's birthday. Driving a car in Atlanta, Georgia. And that's such a powerful reminder of how we all ought to take stock, appreciate all the blessings that God has bestowed upon us, not get so swept up in politics and who won this election or who lost that election. There's a beauty in Malcolm Jamal Warner's final post I wanted to share that with you today. Do something nice for somebody. Hug your family. Hey, maybe pop in a donation to help these devastated families in Texas through our Food for the Poor campaign. Maybe we're giving you the tools to do just what he asked for. Again, thank you for your support and going to MikeOnline.com. Let's remember to smile and remember to keep things in perspective. For me, it's perspective, perspective, perspective. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com. Use the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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My producer, Tracy, just ran into the studio and said, all right, we've now gone to complete Looneyville and Letitia James, the New York Attorney General. This is hot off the presses, breaking news. This is this lunatic activist, Alvin Bragg, Attorney General. I mean, Soros-inspired AG and these prosecutors and these folks that are all over the country trying to wreck this great country of ours by their lawfare. Because don't forget, it's all about the power. It's all about the power. Well, Letitia James is being asked by the Writers Guild of America to investigate the cancellation of the late show with Stephen Colbert. And you know the wildest part? You know she'll do it. She would love this. The New York Sun writes this. This could present an opportunity for the prosecutor to gain an advantage in her clash with President Trump. The Guild, which represents film and television writers and is one of the most powerful unions in the media business, declared in a statement that its membership harbors significant concerns that the late show's cancellation is a bribe sacrificing free speech to curry favor with the Trump administration as the company seeks merger approval. Now, every bit of the reporting suggests that this show was losing between $40 and $50 million a year. Only in a lunatic leftist's world is losing $40 million a year good for business. As long as you're critical of the right things, as long as you can call out Donald Trump, it doesn't matter how much you lose. Run CBS into bankruptcy. They don't care. You can have fun saying F you to Donald Trump every night, which is essentially what he does. He did it last night. He told Trump to go F himself, that this wise sage of late-night television. That's what passes for late-night entertainment. I'm picturing Johnny Carson not liking a president in his era. Who was around during the car—Richard Nixon. Let's say Johnny Carson didn't like Richard Nixon. And Johnny Carson looked into the camera and said— Hey, President Nixon. Hey, Tricky Dick. Go F yourself. And then the audience would cheer. They would take Johnny Carson away in a straitjacket. Have you ever seen the clip of Carson sitting down with Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes? Saying that people don't want to be lectured and they don't want to go to bed late at night by hearing politics. They want to be entertained. They want to smile. They want to laugh. And I've been thinking a little bit about that yesteryear application as it applies to today's version of comedy. Because to the left, that's comedy. Telling Donald Trump to go F himself? Telling the President of the United States to go F off? They think that's funny. They think that's comic. They think he's genius. They're out there protesting. There are protesters in front of the Ed Sullivan Theater saying, Trump has to go, Stephen Colbert must stay. They think that this nagging, partisan scold, this hack, who believes that Adam Schiff is a good headline guest, he's more important in their world than the actual president of the United States. So this should get good, because I can't wait until Big Tish goes after Big Stephen, or goes after Big Trump, because Big Stephen is big mad. The Writers Guild of America. And the only reason they're calling on her is because they know she's stupid enough to go for it. She might accept it. She might say, yep, we have to have a full scale. I'll bet they've already begun the investigation. The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Oh, my gosh. Here is a writer. They rounded up a writer for The Late Show with Stephen Colbert to appear on CNN. I don't even know what the writer's name is. Some no-name writer went whining to CNN about how mean and awful it is that CBS would pull the plug on their show that is clearly tanking. You lose $40 million a year, something is going wrong. And I can speak from experience. I'm a decades-long broadcaster. I've been at this for, you know, 40-plus years. No one is going to hire you to host a talk show. And look, it could be at the level that I'm at, or it could be at a TV network level like Stephen Colbert. You don't get to stay if you're hemorrhaging money. It doesn't work. Nobody stands by a show that is bleeding money, right? But check out this writer, a guest on CNN, explaining, well, Stephen Colbert brings an awful lot to the table. Reportedly, the show lost up to $40 million last year.
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay, so that's a lot of money. But as I said, it is the top-rated show. I mean, when you hear, this is financial, this is financial, there's nothing else to see here, do you think that's right?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I don't. And I don't for a couple of reasons. I mean, first, this show has not taken any of the steps that other late night shows have taken to cut costs to stay on the air. And also, you know, profit and loss reports don't account for a lot of ways in which a show like The Late Show with Stephen Colbert brings value to CBS and to Paramount. The Late Show is referenced in almost every quarterly Paramount investor call that we could find.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow. And I think that the right and that's because of the tremendous brand value that this has for the company. When you think about CBS, one of the first people you think about is Stephen Colbert. And so I think that the right the wrong question is, was this was their financial problems? I think the question is, why was this canceled?
SPEAKER 01 :
Was it because of a. Well, and as you point out, if you have the top rated show with something that is part of pop culture and, you know, ubiquitous in American culture, then would you try to do everything you could to keep it? As opposed to jettisoning it so quickly.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know the wildest part of that clip? The CNN interviewer is acknowledging that the show is losing $40 million a year. No one's pushing back against that. Have you noticed that? Nobody's saying, oh, that's not true. We're breaking even. We're making a little bit. We're making $5, $10 million a year for CBS. No, no. They all acknowledge it's losing $40 million a year, and then they're all... stomping their feet and throwing a hissy fit because the show's being canceled. Don't worry. Do you think Jimmy Kimmel is going to criticize Trump any less? How about Jimmy Fallon? How about MSNBC, CNN, all the rest of them? Don't worry. There's not going to be a shortage of Trump criticism because this pompous ass, Stephen Colbert, gets the boot. Don't worry. The anti-Trump mindset in America is going strong, and it ain't going to go away. Gosh, you know, I come back to a very highly sophisticated technical rule that I think applies to these people. I say it ever so often. I believe it with all of my heart. These people are nuts. These people are absolutely crazy. They're nuts. They're out of their minds. 800-655-MIKE. Look, I don't want to spend two minutes on Stephen Colbert. I don't care. I have never, I can honestly tell you this. I have watched one second of Stephen Colbert's late show in my entire life. We've played, I guess, clips on this show. Never in my life have I watched Stephen Colbert. Maybe you have. And maybe he really is a beloved genius. Yeah, here's a beloved genius. Here he was last night.
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Friday, Donald Trump posted, I absolutely love that Colbert got fired. His talent was even less than his ratings.
SPEAKER 10 :
How dare you, sir? Would an untalented man be able to compose the following satirical witticism? Go f*** yourself.
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And incidentally, I know that on paper, you know, it sounds like a joke. Oh, look how witty I am and sophisticated in telling Trump to go f*** himself. But the look of rage on his face, it's more than a little unnerving. Oh, no, no, this guy's unhinged. You know how people, you can joke, sometimes you tell a joke and you think, well, I'm just kidding, but you're really trying. He's filled with rage. This guy has got almost a look of violence on his face when he turned into that close-up and he said, hey, Trump, go F yourself. Oh, no, no, the hatred that these people have in their hearts is kind of scary. Because they're capable of anything. Look, never forget, all about power, all about maintaining control. And in Stephen Colbert's case, he wants to control the hearts and minds of people who are watching him into thinking that we all should hate Trump with this wild sickness that they have the way they do. $40 million a year. And the smart kids are sitting around saying, well, it's more than just that. Oh, no, no, no. To CBS, it's just that. Now, thankfully, on my level, in our world... I'm not losing millions of dollars, and I'm not because of your support, and I'm not because of this audience, and I'm not because of sponsors like Americans for a Balanced Budget, where we can deliver a message every day, reach a lot of people, and take action. Congress secured a historic victory for President Trump by passing the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, but that win is sort of in jeopardy right now because a massive health care tax hike looms if Congress fails to act. Americans for a Balanced Budget is sounding the alarm. Key health care tax credits are set to expire at the end of the year. If that happens, 24 million Americans could face skyrocketing health care costs. Millions could lose coverage altogether. Congress has to act, and you can be a part of this. Americans for a Balanced Budget is calling on Congress to protect the full promise of the one big beautiful bill by preventing a devastating health care tax hike. Your vote counts. Your voice matters. Just visit StopHealthCostHikes.com to deliver your voice to Congress, protect tax credits, stop rising costs, act before it's too late. Go to StopHealthCostHikes.com. HealthCostHikes.com.
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Life in the talk show fast lane. It's the Eminem Experience. Howdy, Mike. So that's some Eagles, Life in the Fast Lane, Hotel California, an album that will turn 50 next year. The great Don Henley on the vocal up front, Don Henley of the Eagles, is 78 today. Lots of Dallas connections for Henley, so happy birthday to him.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very cool, very cool.
SPEAKER 03 :
Did you see Eagles at the Sphere? I did, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I saw them at the Sphere, and I also saw them at that... Remember that 70s reunion thing they had at Met Stadium?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm still conflicted about the Sphere. Everybody tells me I've got to go to Vegas, got to see some act, some musical act at the Sphere. And I hold it at arm's length because I think it would just be sensory overload. It's a lot. I mean, it's essentially, can you even see the band when you're surrounded by 360 degrees of massive graphics? I mean, I bet it's awesome in a lot of ways. Yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't know. Yeah, it's fun. It's an unusual experience.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, it's a lot to see. It's a lot to take in.
SPEAKER 03 :
And maybe this is a me thing, and I don't know if it's part of growing up. I don't know if I need all that sensory overload. I don't know if I can do IMAX movies anymore. Have you seen or heard of Brad Pitt in the F1 movie? Have you heard about this? Nope. No, no thing about it. Wow. Only showbiz Mike, most talked about movie of the year, short of Mission Impossible. The F1 movie? Formula One racing. He's a racer, supposedly a little bit past his prime. Has he got one more victory in him? And the direction of it, and they put you in the car, which is lovely for five minutes. Is the movie any good is my question. It apparently is. And everybody says, oh, you've got to go see it in IMAX. You've got to go see it in IMAX. I think my brain would explode. So give me the thing with the recliner and bring me some food and I'm happy. Or better yet, come to my house.
SPEAKER 12 :
We talk about movies and stuff in the culture that interests us. I swear when I saw Trump's tweet yesterday about Brian Kohlberger, I thought, this man is my spirit animal. I'm telling you. You told me about this the other day.
SPEAKER 03 :
You told me about the true crime doc about this the other day.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's as into this as I am because I think the whole world wants to know, why did this smart guy do what he did? Why?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because you know, this is also like Chinese to me as well. I mean, I paid attention to the news.
SPEAKER 12 :
The Idaho murders.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. So tell everybody what that was.
SPEAKER 12 :
Four college kids in the middle of the night, brutally, brutally slaughtered in Idaho on a college campus, off-campus housing, a little typical off-campus kind of townhouses. And it was a big mystery. They got this guy based on the DNA that he left behind. And he was a crime aficionado. He was a...
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, like a forensic criminal forensic to be some kind of criminologist.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. I mean, he was he wanted to. And he apparently just randomly picked these kids. And in the middle of the night, went in and one by one, there were two of them that slept through the whole thing. There were six college kids in the house. And look, they were all drunk. So that was part of it. I mean, that doesn't help. And they didn't even call 911 until noon the next day almost. But there's President Trump saying, all right, this guy got a plea deal. He avoids the death penalty. He pled guilty. He admits he did it. But Trump is saying, as part of the negotiation, if he's going to get off the hook, you've got to at least explain why you did it. I mean, which I think is true. He's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but why does Trump give this five seconds of his time?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because he's a renaissance man.
SPEAKER 03 :
He's got time for a lot of things. His multitasking is like nothing. He has more screens and more windows open than any... I'm telling you, he's my spirit animal.
SPEAKER 12 :
Like him, I love my Diet Cokes. Like him, I've never missed a Big Mac that I didn't love. And like him, I'm into true crime, and I want to know why Brian Kohlberger did it. Do you ever stop, Mark, and think about what this one individual named Donald J. Trump... goes through on an hourly basis, just over and over and over again, the judiciary coming at him, the media, Colbert last night telling him to go blank himself and all that nonsense. I mean, but every day, Iran, there's a headline I talked about yesterday, Iran is absolutely hell-bent on assassinating him. Sure. They're not going to stop. They want to kill him. They tried to kill him in Butler, Pennsylvania. Could a mere mortal survive everything that Donald Trump has been put through?
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And do it not just with this kind of resiliency, but this kind of energy. It's like he turns it into a locomotive. Fuel. It's like he thrives on it. It's like, oh yeah, you bring it, I'm going to make you like the things I do, and he's
SPEAKER 12 :
He seems to enjoy it. He sure does. He seems to like it. I mean, I'd be in the fetal position under the bed for the rest of my life to be put through what he's been put through, and it never stops. They never let up. I mean, it's like every day.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, he wears it like a badge of honor. He sure does. And he should. He has what we call the right enemies.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And you can be judged by that. I was listening to a fascinating chat. Prior to listening to you this morning, Chris Stegall interviewed Julie Kelly, and Chris said what you and I talked about yesterday, I do too, and you and I talked about, and my theory is they're going to go you-know-what to the wall on this whole Obama, Hillary, Russia gate thing. They're going to go you-know-what to the wall because of the Epstein thing, the way that was kind of fumbled by Pam Bondi. She ain't going to fumble this. They're not going to find this has already been referred to her for criminal prosecution. I think there's going to be some people that are going to be facing some arrests. We're going to see. Because think about this. And Chris made a point that was so profound that, you know, they used an arcane. statute from the Civil War era to try to nail people on January 6th. And the exact specific one, it's escaping me right now, but essentially if they could use some arcane law from the Civil War to prosecute January Sixers who were walking through the Capitol Surely they can do this over the coup that they attempted against Donald Trump. This ongoing treasonous conspiracy to handcuff and hamper and damage and sabotage his first term. And by the way, we never even talk about this. Maybe 2020. Because when you've got Russia hanging over your head, when you've got the idea of a fake, phony, collusion, steel dossier bunch of crooks, Strap hanging over your head. Maybe that cost you some votes in 2022. Could very well have. So this is all coming. How about Hunter Biden yesterday, Mark? Holy moly.
SPEAKER 03 :
I may surprise you on this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, I know what you're going to say. You're going to pull a Greg Gutfeld. Oh, he's real. He's honest. He's genuine. He's authentic. Yeah, you go ahead with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go with that, Skippy. I think I'll phrase it a little differently. So for those that don't know, Hunter Biden sat down with some guys, a Pennsylvania, Philadelphia based podcast. They're sitting outside under a tree and Hunter just goes absolutely profanely. Just just goes post that crap. Yep. Just F bombs every three seconds. Now, if some of his gripes are they came after his dad and he's angry that they came after his dad. He's angry at George Clooney. He's angry at the party, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, yes. And of course, Hunter is full of it and he's a lunatic. And he also said, basically, F you, America, if you don't like illegal immigration, who do you think cleans your hotel rooms? Who's going to clean your toilet? Just absolutely. He's wrong about everything, just like his dad. But the point that I did make, and then I did find out that Gutfeld had said the same thing, was that as I watched that, I said, wow, this guy is crazy. But there is something he brings to the table that AOC never will. Schumer never will. Gavin Newsom never will. It's a kind of an odd guttural authenticity. He seems sincere. He means what he says.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, he's sincere.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I'm not saying that to try to elevate him to credibility. Well, but you are.
SPEAKER 12 :
But you are. Because they're already calling for that. They're already saying Hunter 2028. And what do we think of that? Well, don't help it. Which means you think I have a point.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't know if you have a point or not. Yeah, he's an authentic crackhead. Yeah. Then you shouldn't worry, should you?
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, that's not a pejorative. He literally, in that same interview, made a convincing case for why crack cocaine isn't so bad. Yeah. I'm not kidding you. He sat there and said it's cleaner than other types of cocaine. I mean, oh, yeah, that's a presidential fodder, all right. But you know what? But in the world of Zoran Mamdani and Omar Fatah, this isn't beyond the pale.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is what I mean. Is there any candidate that will make Democrats go, oh, no, that's just too much?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, no, there's not. And see, this is what I mean about the course correction. They are trying to course correct what they think is the craziness of the Trump era. They think that it's so crazy on the right. Well, let's just go crazy on the left. Let's get a self-professed Marxist to be the leading candidate for mayor in a big city. And let's put Hunter Biden up there because you know what? People like Mark Davis and Greg Gutfeld claim he's authentic. Yeah, he's authentic. Hemorrhoids are authentic. Yes, they are. Give me a break. Authenticity. I mean, what a lunatic. You know what? And what's infuriating about Hunter Biden, the bottom line is, he's only not in prison because his daddy wrote him a pardon. Well, or the auto pen did. That's the one that he did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's the one he did. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
He carried out a $20 million shakedown of shady foreign interests with the consent and participation of daddy. He paid no taxes on it. He had the fake painting. This guy is scum of the earth.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hunter 2028.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. He's authentic. Oh, he's real. He's real. Oh, I like his authenticity, says Mark Davis.
SPEAKER 03 :
Keeping it effing real. Hunter 2028. Keep it real.
SPEAKER 12 :
Keeping crack clean again. Making crack great again. Oh, my Lord in heaven. I'm telling you what. I'm loading up one bus. I can make it to the border by midnight.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm out of here. I'm gone.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm gone. Hey, by the way, how about the Trump threatening to hold back the stadium deal for your beloved Washington Redskins?
SPEAKER 03 :
Love it. Love it. I grew up eating Burgundy and gold. I came to Texas. I got better. John Riggins was not a Redskins. Sonny Jurgens, excuse me, was not a Commander. Art Monk was not a Commander. This and Cleveland Indians need to be brought back. Little things mean a lot. Do you follow John Rocker on social media? I don't, but I know his history is kind of a free spirit. He got himself in trouble for some things.
SPEAKER 12 :
He's authentic. He's authentic. So John Rocker, the former, he gets really edgy on social media. But here's what he wrote. Here's what he wrote. Former pitcher for the Atlanta Braves. Very, very politically incorrect. Far right guy. Here's what he writes. Have you ever met an Indian actually offended by a professional sports team named after an Indian? No. Hint. He says, hint, it's not the Indians. It's liberal white people. Of course. The same people who want to pay out reparations. Of course. The same people with Ukraine flags hanging next to their front doors. The same people who drink soy milk and take Ozempic. The same people who pray for George Floyd every night. The same people who watch Jimmy Kimmel and I'd add Stephen Colbert. These are those who don't know a thing about baseball or football.
SPEAKER 03 :
Indians. Indian communities, actual Native American communities. It was an actual Native American, proud Native American, who crafted and drew that proud Redskin Indian hand logo. It is a purging of the... And here's what's weird. Redskins and Indians had to go, but Seminoles, Chiefs, Braves are still there. Yeah, why is that? Why is that? Because those franchises have a spine and respect their history.
SPEAKER 12 :
Those franchises told the white liberals to go pound salt.
SPEAKER 03 :
They sure did, and good for them for doing it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. All right, we're fired up. Happy Tuesday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Here we go. Mike is ready for his Tuesday program soon as we are done. 10 o'clock right here on 660 AM.
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All right, happy Tuesday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and happy Tuesday. Happy Tuesday. Looks cooler out than it actually is. So those of you that are wondering, you know, what's it really like outside, maybe you work in an area where you're not really sure, you can't see outside or whatever the case may be, 88 degrees and it's still warm.
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Okay, I'll just say one thing as just a little hook. There was a group of people who did everything they could to make sure we didn't vote on a vice chair.
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SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, and Charlie playing a little bit of Ozzy Osbourne during this first hour. If you're listening again at 6 o'clock, you'll know why. He passed away today at age 76. And a few of you asked if we were going to play a few of his songs. songs we won't play all of them but we may have a couple of intros here or there through this hour and i i'll be straight up honest with you guys i know a few of his songs but i was never a huge you know like ozzy osbourne you know groupie follower whatever so i'm sorry i just don't know that many of his songs
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I was never a fan, but he became more of a TV kind of personality.
SPEAKER 15 :
One thing you could always tell... Can I talk like him?
SPEAKER 06 :
I know. One thing you could always tell about Ozzy, though, especially over the last couple decades, he did not take himself seriously.
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
At all. The guy was there to have fun and to bring fun to his fans. That's right. That's what he was there for.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. So, anyways, Ozzy passed away age 76, so you'll hear a little bit of that intertwined into this first hour of today's program. All right, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because I saw a lot of this on social media. I watched a little bit of it late last night because I knew the meeting was going on. You watched some of this? Or not watched, but watched some of the postings that were going on about it, kind of getting a feel for what was going to happen. And I saw the announcements early this morning. And there is a new co-chair, vice chair, I should say, of the Colorado GOP. But walk us through what happened last night.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. My goodness. I'll put it that way, John. I have never been in a meeting like this in my life.
SPEAKER 15 :
A virtual meeting, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, virtual meeting, Zoom meeting, which, by the way, is wonderful. The people who complain about them are wrong. They're easy to run. They make everything incredibly easy. The only thing that makes it difficult is them. And I'll get to that here now. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I want to add something to what you just said because I think you just said something very accurately. And what I mean by that is I was reading some things today where some people were like, you know, some people went through more credentialing than others. Well, yeah, duh. For example, if I was running a Zoom meeting, And I had, you know, 25 different participants, but I knew some of them extremely well, i.e. Andy. Would I have to spend a lot of time identifying who Andy is? No, because I know who Andy is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you're pretty forgetful.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean... You get where I'm going with this, Andy?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I get where you're going.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, some people are just – they've got – you talk to them enough. You have enough interaction with them where you just know this is who this is.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, when I was in the room online, they were just asking, okay, your name, and the person would put their ID up by – and show their ID on the screen. Okay, next. And mine came. I put it up on the screen. That's all it was. You had a number of people – who protested because they didn't want to put their IDs up on the screen. But what they really were doing was just protesting the entire thing. I see. They were there. This was a completely organized protest. Let me just jump right into it. Mark Hampton's Davidian troops, the Rhino Watchers, the Davidians, Dave Williams, he was there too. They did the online equivalent.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and really quick, explain why was he there?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, he's a member.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so he's a member of the committee.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, the state central committee. If I say SCC, now you know what I mean.
SPEAKER 15 :
Just want to make sure everybody's on the same page.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and there's actually over 500 members. In a vote, you're going to be able to get basically just over 400, which is what we had. Okay. They did the online equivalent of Rules for Radicals and Antifa blocking bridges. I kept saying, we quit blocking the bridges. They were enraged. They were out of control. They were complaining about everything, and I'm going to break it down right now. And here's the nice thing. I get it. And point by point, you feel free to jump in anywhere you want. Perfect.
SPEAKER 15 :
OK, first of all, because I wasn't for all of you that are listening. I was not involved in any of this. This is all I'm hearing some of this for the first time.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, you're a relatively happy person today.
SPEAKER 15 :
True.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, this is like me coming out of a really bad movie, you know, a half star. And you've seen me those days, right? I'm miserable. I'm not in a good mood. It was a rough night. Here we go. About 95% of the comment time was all Davidians. I'm not exaggerating. About 95%. And they were protesting every element they could possibly imagine in hopes of delay, delay, delay. They came in. This was a pre-planned strategy. Their entire goal was to shut down the meeting. Now, you've got to keep in mind, take a step back. There are hundreds of people there who are there to cast a vote. This whole meeting should have taken 20, 30 minutes tops.
SPEAKER 15 :
Most, yeah. Credential vote, move on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Well, the credentialing started at 5. But then you could, you know, Corey and I, we had dinner. Then you come back at 7.30. The meeting starts at 7.30. Got it. All right. Newsflash, we got out after 10. I'll get to why here in a moment. Now, they complained over and over about the Zoom meeting, that it was a Zoom meeting, and they protested that. They protested the credentialing and said, oh, it's wrong, it's unfair. There was nothing unfair about the credentialing. Nobody is going to use your ID anymore. online. You have to show your ID everywhere you go for crying out loud. We require an ID for people to vote and they're worried about their ID being shown. I mean, I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. They forced completely needless vote after needless vote after needless vote. They kept challenging the numbers. This is great. They demanded we hear exact vote counts, not just percentages. And they protested that. Think about that for a moment. You have to have the exact numbers instead of just the percentages. This is 62. That's 38. You know. Nope. They have to have the exact... And the guy who was doing the tech side of it was very... He had the patience of Job.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And he's like, okay. And he did whatever they wanted. It was just ludicrous. They demanded proof the numbers were honest. But... They're honest. Okay. Everything was on the up and up. There was nothing being done to them. And the entire meeting, they were acting like they were being oppressed. Did you ever see the Monty Python skit? Stop oppressing me. Stop oppressing me. And the guy is like, I'm not doing anything to you. Well, it was just like that. Okay. Next. They demanded the rules be read start to finish. Think about that. Even though the rules were the same as those that were approved in meetings prior. Now, good question. Why? Right? So I asked some of them what rules concerned them. They went silent, each one, when I asked them that. And then they resumed protesting. They were only there to protest and to block the bridge. Okay. I mean, you've seen these protesters, the ICE protesters, blocking the bridge. That's what they were doing. Weston Imer, I'm going to mention him. He holds up this childish point of order, point of order post it over his camera for endless periods of time demanding to be heard over and over. I'm like, what are you five? And it was incredible. He belonged in the streets of Portland. And his mom was just as bad. But I'm not singling out those two. Their whole side was. It was ludicrous. It's just that the point of order thing, it's hard to forget that because he just held it there. I mean, it would be 20 minutes. He would hold that because I want to speak again. It's just like, holy crap. All you've done is speak. Next, Mark Hampton, when he had to do a speech, right, because he was running for vice chair, yeah, against Richard Holtorf. He actually insulted Gabe Evans. That's our CD8 rep who he's supposed to serve. You know, the guy who won for us. He insulted him in his campaign speech. It was unbelievable. Christy Burton Brown called him out in the chat. Then they demanded we postpone the meeting that they had hijacked. Keep in mind, this whole meeting could have been done in 20, 30 minutes. They're dragging it out for hours, and then they say, we need to postpone this. We need to postpone this. This isn't ready. Everything was perfect. There was nothing wrong. We just wanted to vote, but these crazies wouldn't let us cross the bridge. When Brita finally had to make the vote happen, they threw fits like protesters being carried off by ice. You should have seen the comments. Oh, my gosh. You know, all the same people, the Hugos and Rays and all the same people. You would think... that they were being sent to a concentration camp. They were just so melodramatic, it was unbelievable. They ranted in the chat like unhinged maniacs. Okay, here's the kicker. After they had caused 95% of the delay, well, actually all the delays, all right, they then complained about the meeting going too long. Seriously. No, no, no. And then it was too long, so we need to shut it down. These protesters had caused all the delays.
SPEAKER 15 :
So they caused all the turmoil and complained about how long it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. So let's say that you get together with somebody for dinner. They talk for three hours straight and then complain this is taking too long.
SPEAKER 15 :
I've had church meetings like that before. I know. I know. I understand that fully.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've been, well, I've been in some doozies of meetings in churches and business and in the military and everywhere. I've never been in a meeting like this. Dave Williams, he complained, well, we're still here at 953 and we'll go past 10. After all, it was him and his supporters causing all the delays. Pirulinski style, you know, blame them for what you're doing tactics.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Let me bring this home. This all brought back terrible memories of what it's like to be led by protesters because that is what we had for two years. All right? When these rhino watchers ran the party for two years, everything they pushed was protest. Now, I want you to think about this. They protested 2020. They used the entire party to protest. Mm-hmm. They turned us into a protest machine. They protested 2020. They protested open primaries. They protested Dominion. They protested Zoom meetings. They even did it then. Let's see here. They endorsed and contested primaries, never done before, and then protested when 14 of their 18 candidates got smoked. They protested our own Republican candidates. Remember that? They did that for months. Dave told us to burn pride flags. Hope insisted she was being stalked and threatened by someone she never proved existed. Okay. John, that's what it's like to be led by protesters, not leaders, under their protest leadership. At the end of it all, remember, we lost 60% of Trump's national red wave here in Colorado. That's the results. Everything that you teach on leadership every week, they did the opposite. And last night, it all came rushing back. as all they did was any way that they could stall, and I'll tell you what, they proposed, I can't tell you how many dozens of times, to shut the meeting down, stop the meeting, stop the vote, no vote. Their entire goal was to make sure we were only there to hold a vote on vice chair. Their entire goal was to stop the vote on vice chair. And so you've got hundreds of people who are there, and this group, This group, the Davidians, kept those hundreds of people for something that should have taken 20, 30 minutes. It was over two and a half hours.
SPEAKER 15 :
And why did they want to postpone? What do you think their goal is there? I don't know. Here's what.
SPEAKER 06 :
As you know right now, not Kristi Noem, I'm sorry, the other one, Tulsi Gabbard has come out with how the Obama- Right, interfered with the Russian- Administration. Yeah, but why did they do it? Because they wanted to throw sand in the gears of Trump's first four years in office. Everything they are doing, and the reason they wanted Mark Hampton to be vice chair-
SPEAKER 15 :
Was to do the same thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Was only to throw sand in the gears of Britta Horn being the chair for two years. Their only goal is to make it so she can't succeed at anything. That's their only goal. It's all protest.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because then they can come back and say, see, we told you so. See, we told you so. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. We made it happen.
SPEAKER 15 :
But we told you so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. But... But, John, at the end of it, by the way, if anybody doesn't believe me, you can watch this on YouTube. You can watch this, okay?
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, really quick, Andy, that goes along the lines, and I have actually dismissed employees throughout my career for this reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Individuals that would rather watch somebody fail or even participate in their failure rather than helping them succeed, which there are certain personalities that just love that, those people won't work for me.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
I won't allow them to.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, those people shouldn't work anywhere.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because all they do is bring down an organization. Right. Right? Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
And this is all they wanted to do. What the Obama administration did when they did the Russian collusion hoax, and they used all kinds of powerful levers and people in positions of authority. And by the way, this is really scary here. Here in Colorado, these crazies are almost half of the state central committee, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Not quite, but close.
SPEAKER 06 :
But almost half.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
They lost the vote 52 to 48 percent. Richard Holthorff defeated. What's his name? Mark Hampton. OK, so Holthorff is going to be our vice chair. So the vice chair will not be opposed to the chair. The vice chair will not be there. No, in fact, this and Hampton only wanted to be here as he wanted to be a political terrorist in the party. That was his only goal was to throw sand in the works and make it hard for her to do anything. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
And there's some things – and I want to set the record straight, and this is – I'm not Richard's friend. I mean, we've talked to each other here and there. We've done a couple of interviews over the years with his political career and so on. And outside of that, that's all I know of Richard. I have no skin in the game in this whatsoever. Right. I have read a lot of the different articles and things that have come out against Richard. And some of these have been made public on like Nine News and places like that. In fact, even some of today's news basically says something to the effect of, you know, your new I'm paraphrasing here, but your new conservative, quote unquote, Colorado GOP vice chair, you know, believes in abortions and paying for them. And let me set the record straight on all of this. Richard has been very upfront about when he was young. In his late teens, early 20s, he had a girlfriend. She got pregnant. They made some decisions that I'm sure today he wishes he could go back and remake those decisions. Keep in mind, this is probably, Andy, 30-plus years ago or more. It is. Richard's my age. Right. He was a kid. He's a kid. Look.
SPEAKER 06 :
I was dumb when I was young. You were dumb when you were young. Everybody was dumb when they were young.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm not giving anybody a pass. But no, to torture. Let me explain. To torture Richard along those lines would be no different than torturing a young lady that made a decision to have an abortion that now in her 50s and 60s says, man alive, I've made a huge mistake. I wish I'd never done that. It's been one of the worst things I've ever had to live with in my life. We don't torture the women. So why do we torture the men then, Andy? Shouldn't torture either. There's a little thing called grace. You ever heard of that? That side doesn't know it, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Look, I've made dumb decisions. We all have. Okay. I haven't done that, but, you know, there you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, but we've all made things in the past, decisions in the past, Andy, that we wish we hadn't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. We've all done things in the past we wish we hadn't. Here's another thing they were doing, by the way. In the chat... In the chat, they were lying flat out about him. So you had, and I won't give any more names. I'm sorry, I could, but I won't. But you had them saying that he wants tax-funded abortions. No, he doesn't.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's never said any. And again, I don't know him, but I can defend that because I've watched what he said and I've interviewed him.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you had them saying that he opposes Trump, he's anti-Trump, he's never Trump, all this kind of stuff, because they were throwing every lie they could to get those people, And and there were this one nice lady. She was asking, he's against Trump. And she didn't know. She's just asking. I said, no, he supports Trump and he's pro-life. And she's like, oh, OK, because they're trying to get any single vote they possibly can in the margin through any lie they can tell. No conscience whatsoever. They had no conscience.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
It was incredible.
SPEAKER 15 :
You could see that on the front side, Andy, before even the vote last night, some of the, quote unquote, campaigning that was going on. Oh, you could see through the, you know, the smoke and mirrors that a lot of this was going on. And I'm just like, well, you people will not stop, will you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Bottom line, John, I was horrified by what I saw last night. What we saw last night was the equivalent of online Antifa protesters taking over a bridge and having to be carried off screaming by the cops.
SPEAKER 15 :
But Andy, you're just establishment.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm establishment.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're just a rhino, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and every time they say that, I say, oh, really? No problem. Can you list my non-Republican beliefs? Can you list my non-conservative beliefs?
SPEAKER 15 :
My rhino beliefs.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they run every time.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because they're not there, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they're name-calling. But here's the thing, John. What does it mean when nearly half the state central committee of our party is devotees? I'm not going to say they're all like this, but they are devotees to a group of people who have no conscience. That's scary.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I have an answer for that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
We'll talk about that as soon as we come back. Because I talked about this a little bit last week, and I said I would get into more detail with this with Andy on Tuesday, and we will. And I've titled this next segment, to answer Andy's question, I'm glad he asked that, because I've titled this next segment, Bad Brains. Bad brains. So we'll get into that here in just one moment. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. And there may be an Energy Star rating change coming first of the year that would affect your ability to buy correct windows and doors for your home. Find out from Dave today how that works and what you need to do instead. Find him at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 14 :
The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason. I am Iron Man.
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably the only time you'll hear us play Ozzy Osbourne is today in honor of his passing. Again, I was never a huge Ozzy follower. Hey, he was very popular. Yeah, he was very popular. So... Bad brains. So Andy was asking me earlier, you know, why do they act this way? Why do they behave this way? And I talked a little bit about this last week. Didn't get into huge detail. I think I talked about it enough where some of you could gather what I was talking about. But I wanted to get into this in more detail today because I just felt like it was – when I read this, and this is – I think I said this last week also. This is an article from Slate, which is a huge conservative publication, by the way. Actually, it's not. It's about as far left as you can get.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Way out wacko left. Slate is way left. But this article that they came up with called Bad Brains – I stole it because it fits with what we're talking about. And it talks about how your brain on revenge – this whole article is about your brain on revenge looks a lot like your brain on drugs. And there's only one twisted way to get your fix. So I'll summarize this whole article. Essentially what it talks about is people that are so dead set on revenge. Their brain, through brain mapping and all these different studies that they've done, basically shows the same thing as if you were addicted to drugs. In other words, you are so dead set on revenge, you can't think straight. That's essentially what this article is talking about. And it goes on to talk about how the only fix for this is forgiveness. Right. Amazing how scriptural slate has become in all of this, because the Bible is very much on, you know, teaches about all of what we're talking about here, Andy. You know, God himself is very instructive in this area. It's why he says revenge is mine, basically, not for you to worry about. I'll handle it. Right. Because God knows in your brain, when you're so addicted to revenge, you won't think straight. So what he's really saying is, let me handle this. Give that to me. I'll make sure everything works out in the end. Not for you to worry about. You go about your business and I'll handle the rest. But when people get so addicted to revenge, they can't think straight. And again, the only fix is for you to forgive those others in your own brain and your own heart, because that's the only cure for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Well, it was really interesting because he sets it up very well. He gives a story about a guy with a dog. That's right. And somebody else does something horrible to his dog. Hey, John Wick, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Only worse in this case.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. It was worse. And so he sets this up. He sets up a terrible person who has done something unthinkably bad to you.
SPEAKER 15 :
That you would want to be revengeful to.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And then, basically, he asked a bunch of people, he polled a bunch of people, how would you feel about this? And, of course, they want the guy dead. And you would understand if you heard the story. And so, then he says that the only thing that can break that is forgiveness. You have to turn around and forgive that person. Now, by the way, at no point did he say... condone what they've done. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what he said. Condoning and forgiving are two different things. A lot of people, a lot of people see forgiving as condoning and they say, I got to hold onto my hate because that's the only way that they will at least have someone who still sees them the way they need to be seen. Okay. And now what was really interesting in this, obviously it's slate. Okay. Um, What they didn't understand is they were basically paraphrasing the Bible. Exactly. This is right out of Luke 15. Exactly. It's the story of the lost son. Right. Okay, so Jesus talks about the lost son. I won't go through it all, but basically he's got two sons, right? And those two sons are each going to get half of what he has as their inheritance. And one of the sons says, hey, I want everything I have now.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I'm going to go. I want it on the front side. I want it on the front side.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not the back side. Yeah, yeah. On the front side, not the back side. And he describes this kid as everything that would have been horrifying in Jewish culture. First of all, you don't go to your dad and demand it now before your dad's dead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Secondly, he goes off, spends it all. So you're wasting all the money. You don't do that. Next, it's all in ways of the world. Wine, women, song, the whole thing. Right. Then he churns and is, because he's so hungry and he's given up everything.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's eating with the pigs. He's eating with the pigs who, of course, in Jewish culture, was the worst of the worst.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, the pigs are the worst of the worst. And here he longed to eat what the pigs were given. Okay, finally he comes home.
SPEAKER 15 :
He realizes that, wait a minute, my servants, my dad's servants eat better than I am right now. Why don't I just go home and be one of those? Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm a son of the father and his servants eat better than me. So he decides to come home. Now, here's what's really interesting and what a lot of people miss. The Bible says, Jesus says, while he was still a long ways off.
SPEAKER 15 :
The Father saw him.
SPEAKER 06 :
The Father saw him and ran to him. In other words, the Father didn't sit there waiting, tapping his foot until he came up and groveled at his feet.
SPEAKER 15 :
And lecturing him for the next hour about all the things he did wrong.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And by the way, what does the Church do when somebody goes astray? When somebody does something wrong, and it can be some huge thing, you know, stealing or sexual sin or whatever, or it could just be a little thing, right? You say the wrong thing during a church meeting, right? And you offend some people or whatever. The church... wants you to go through steps to prove that you will not do that again and you will be safe around them. And they want you to earn your way back into their good graces. And they say they're doing it to protect the church for the good of the body of Christ, of course. You know, they use all the rhetoric, but a lot of people get good at using rhetoric to cover what? Revenge. We're getting back to what you're saying, revenge. Now... Why is this all important? The other son. The other son, of course, the father sees him a long ways off, sees him and showers him and all kinds of good things and throws a party for him. Big shindig. Right, big shindig. And the other son, of course, is... He's now ticked. He's very upset. He says, Dad, I've done nothing. I've been loyal. I've been loyal. I've done nothing but serve you all the way around, and he comes home and you throw him a party. You've never killed the fatted calf and thrown a party for me like this. Right. As dad, in so many words, said, I didn't need to. You're with me all along. He was lost, and now he's come home. Let's celebrate that. Okay, here's the whole point of it. It is not, at no point did the dad look at what the son did and say, none of that was bad. At no point did he condone any of the stupidity of what this kid did. What he did was recognize that every person is more valuable than their faults. Right. And this kid is more valuable to me.
SPEAKER 15 :
And in turn, dad forgave son and didn't have that vengeful spirit and so on. And going back to this whole article about Slate, which, by the way, really quick, I want to mention this, too, that this study that Slate mentions here was over 20 years, two decades, 60 neuroscientists. So think about this, folks. Left always talks about trust the science, trust the science, trust the science. Right, right. Okay, well, in this case, Slate is proving the Bible true in the words of, because they went over two decades with 60 neuroscientists proving what the Scripture says.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. By the way, they spent an awful lot of money where all they had to do was read Luke 15. It's free.
SPEAKER 15 :
Actually, the majority of the Bible follows this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Luke 15 is free.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, not just that passage. There's many, many others. The Bible's full of this, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, tons of them. I'm just saying.
SPEAKER 15 :
You picked one out.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is the classic.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, this is just the classic, right? I mean... Folks, it's easy. And by the way, is forgiveness easy? No, I understand why it isn't. No, it is not. Because they have hurt you. They have wronged you.
SPEAKER 15 :
So my point with why do these others act the way they do? Why do the Davidians, and those of you that are listening, which there's some of you are out there that are listening, trust me. Here's what you need to do. Back up. Really evaluate why do you feel the way you do against the rest of the party, by the way? Why do you feel so wronged, by the way, to the point where you're so revengeful now that, frankly, you can't think straight? And I'm using those words carefully because you can't think straight, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
That meeting last night, John, was all vengeance. It was all protest and vengeance. There was no desire to lift anything up. There was only desire to tear down those who had defeated them in an election. And look, we all get this way. I felt this way. I understand that. All right. I get very bitter at them. I've seen them do so many terrible things, and I'm just like, oh, man, I want them to get theirs, you know? But one last scripture, 70 times 7. You know, Lord, how many times do I have to forgive my brother who wrongs me? As many as 7 times? Oh, no, not 7.
SPEAKER 15 :
70 times 7, which means... Meaning forever. Forever.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it doesn't mean... Never stop. When you hit 491, you're okay, finally.
SPEAKER 15 :
Never stop.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And it is just... Here's the big difference, folks. Your pain is real. What they've done to you is wrong, okay? And what I've done to people, we've all done wrong things, okay? and what they did last night was wrong. It was very wrong. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I want to add something before Andy continues on, because as I read through what a lot of these different people post, Mark Hampton, who was one of the candidates, I happen to follow Mark on Facebook, and I read a lot of things that he says, and I'll just tell you straight up. He has to be... One of the, if not the, most vindictive, vengeful people I've ever seen just by the words that he writes. I can't imagine what he's like in real life because the words that he writes are so vengeful. I wouldn't want him in charge of anything.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mark is, he comes off, at least, I don't know him personally, but he comes off as pure vengeance.
SPEAKER 15 :
Anger, total anger all the time. Yes. Sorry, you just look at his eyes and it's just total anger all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
But think of the times, John, when you felt when you wanted revenge badly for what somebody had done. And you were probably right. They probably had done this terrible thing. Didn't that vengeance hold you? Weren't you in a trap? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, here's what forgiveness is really quick here. Guys, it's not saying what you did is no big deal and it wasn't wrong. No, no, no, we're not saying that, Andy. No, we're not saying that. No, no, it's not becoming stupid. What it is is this. It's recognizing their importance versus what they've done. There is nothing that any person can do to me that can be greater than their importance in the eyes of their creator. even if they've totally walked away from their creator.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the point of this article that I wanted to, again, go over today, after I said things last week along these lines, is to remember that now, scientifically, the very leftist organization Slate went through and figured out all of the things that Andy and I are talking about and what Scripture talks about. They have proven scientifically that being vengeful, having that revenge in your mind, on your heart, at all times, will destroy you. Just like drugs do.
SPEAKER 06 :
They have proven vengeance is mine, says the Lord. It's not our thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep. And they go on. Here's an exact quote from this article. Forgiveness is a form of self-healing that benefits victims, not perpetrators. In other words, you're the one that has been wronged. You are the one that you're healing, not them, and you can do it without being forced to accept or endorse what happened to you, and while you're preserving your right to defend yourself from present or future threats. Right. This is their words, guys, not mine or Andy's. This is what Slate just said.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and let me end it with this with last night. Do I hate the people who did this last night? Because they want to be hated with a lot of what they say. And they were attacking me and mocking me and all that kind of stuff. Unprovoked. I wasn't calling out any of their names. No, I don't. Have I at times hated people who did things like that in my life? Yes, I did. And I wasn't better for it.
SPEAKER 15 :
We never are.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
We never are. I mean, again, this article, again, I have to remind everybody, this article isn't coming from a Christian organization. It is coming from about as far opposite of a Christian organization as you, Andy, will probably ever find. Am I right in saying that? Yeah, but they get it. And yet they're getting what we as Christians, by the way, Christians, all of us, should be proposing on a daily basis, including those that were in this meeting last night trying to disrupt it, who, by the way, the majority of will call themselves evangelical Christians. Am I right? Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
They will refer to themselves as hardcore devout Christians, and they were running on rage and running on vengeance. Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
You all that are listening, please pass that Slate article along. If you want to direct a link to it, I'll be happy to send that to you. But you all should be reading the very thing Andy and I just talked about because you claim to be that side of the aisle that should know this like the back of your hand.
SPEAKER 06 :
When we come back, can we apply that now for us, for people we know?
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SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate, listening to Ozzy Osbourne as we hail him after he has passed away. Passed away today. At the age of, what was it, 76? Somebody said online, you know, okay, does Ozzy go to heaven or hell? And I answered, he goes, like every other man, he goes where his wife tells him to go.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, that's true, too. But yeah, not to me.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then I said, ask God. Yeah, I have no clue. Okay, God will know. Okay. Really quick here, folks, just to sum up, we've been talking about revenge, and I'm just going to say, just like the article says, they proved it scientifically, but we knew this as Bible-believing Christians.
SPEAKER 15 :
Spiritually, we've known this for years, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, revenge is a drug. It is addictive. I've been addicted to revenge. We all have. We have had bad things happen to us, and it gets to where you find yourself only being able to talk about that one thing. You fixate on it. We'll be talking in the next hour about Tucker Carlson. He fixates on Israel. Oh, but I don't hate you. But you fixate on it, and people can tell. Or people can tell you fixate on that ex-wife. You've heard that, or ex-husband.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ex-business partner, ex-this, ex-that. Somebody that's wronged you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that person at work who, oh, thank goodness they got fired and all this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or they're the reason I lost my job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. They're the reason. And by the way, you're probably right. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Could be.
SPEAKER 06 :
Most of the time, not always. A lot of what was going on last night was imagined vengefulness. It was crazy. And that's why I talked about it.
SPEAKER 15 :
They're mad because they lost. They lost the power, Andy. That's what they're really the maddest about. And they lost it again last night.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. I had to describe what happened last night mostly because of the entertainment value. Am I right, though?
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, they were mad because they lost the last go-around. Right. And they're mad once again because they've lost this time. So now it's twice in a row.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and it's just like the Obama administration. Look, they committed a complete hoax with Russian collusion, which, by the way, I think some people will get busted for that. Not Obama, but I think some people will.
SPEAKER 15 :
Some underlings might.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, some underlings. But, folks, that was huge, wide-ranging. They spent tens of millions of dollars on it all to get even because they were mad, because they were hurtful. And so what I kind of wanted to ask you, we've got just a couple minutes left here. What do you do, John? Somebody really has hurt you. I don't want to tell people just act like it didn't happen. That's naivete. What do you do?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think me personally, and this has come later in life, because I wasn't always this way.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I was a hothead.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'll be the first to admit that, yeah, I could fly off the handle and was not always this way. So what I have learned through the years is there's this old saying, what goes around comes around. So while we still need to be attentive, and you did this once, I'm not going to allow it twice. By the way, which I'm all for, there's nothing wrong with having your guard up, nothing wrong with that at all.
SPEAKER 06 :
You've got to have boundaries.
SPEAKER 15 :
You can't allow them to re-victimize. Yeah, there's nothing at all wrong with that, nor is there anything in Scripture that says you shouldn't do those things. Right. Nothing about that. But— It's okay to say, you know what? I'm going to be better than them. I'm going to take the high road. I'm not going to be them. And I'm not going to let revenge rule my life.
SPEAKER 06 :
And basically, you know what I do? And it's hard. I look at them and I say, I'm going to accept that they are more important than they understand. They've lowered themselves to a level, but God made them for more, and I hope they understand that one day.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. And I hope I do with me. Absolutely. That's a great way to look at it, Andy. I mean, ultimately, I guess for me, I just look at it and say, you know, they will have to give an account for all the things that they are doing now as well. True. I will not have to give an account for them. So at the end of the day, I'll let God sort it all out, and I'm just going to be me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Vengeance is his.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm going to go do my thing. Sounds good. You know, I'm going to do me, I guess, is ultimately at the end of the day. I'm going to do me. They can do them. Now, my advice, and I said this earlier and I'll say it again, to all of you that are on that side that lost last night, because, yeah, I know there's some of you listening. Guaranteed. I know for a fact some of you are listening.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
The reality is you really need to go. You need a check, quote, unquote. you need a check as to what's in your spirit what's in your heart why are you really as revengeful as you actually are you know what's really happened to harm you as much and i get it you're going to come back and say well because you know all of those establishment guys and all those rhinos you know they have ruined the party and they've made it so we can't ever win another election and it's never going to happen again if we keep those same people in power Colorado, because I've seen the post, Colorado's done for. We'll never move forward. Actually, folks, no. In fact, what you really have to look at is, is what I'm doing, you that are the quote unquote protesting activist side that Andy talked about early, is what you're doing attracting those in the middle or is it repelling them? I want each one of you to ask yourself that question. Are you repelling the independence or are you attracting independence? And I'll tell you right now, the majority of you and your activism and protestism is not attracting those in the middle. It's repelling them. Right. Am I right, Andy? Oh, yes. People are not going to follow you to the polls and vote the way you want them to because you demand it.
SPEAKER 06 :
If you demand your priorities, will those outside the base be motivated to join you?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, Andy, they're repelled. They run the other way. It's like, and I've always compared it this way, but I mean this. It's like that old Bible thumper. We call them that for a reason, because they'd go knock on someone's door. Thursday night visitation for a lot of churches, by the way, because they knew people were home on Thursday nights. They'd knock on the door, and the first thing they'd say is, Andy, if you died tonight, you know where you're going. Not, hey, how's your day? Not building any kind of relationship. Nothing along those lines, but strictly, hey, Andy, here's my Bible. If you died tonight, do you know where you're going? I'm going to thump you over the head with this thing. Right. Boy, that makes it attractive. I sure want to be a Christian. You don't attract anybody doing that, Andy.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't want to hear about my eternal life from someone who clearly doesn't love me. No. Okay? Who sees me as a target. Who only sees me as a pawn, as a number that they want to gain for their cause. Okay? Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
There's an old saying that John Maxwell and the leadership thing. I'll end with this before we go to break, which, by the way, all of you that are protesting should listen to this. John Maxwell has always said, and I've really taken heart to this over the years because I think he's one of the best spiritual and business leaders that's out there, by the way. People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
In other words, they're not going to listen to you until they know you care about them. I'll leave it at that. We'll come back. Hour 2 and 3 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Average Guys.
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Average Guys.
Join John Rush and Andy Pate as they unravel the subtle nuances of talk radio and its powerful influence on American politics. Discover how hosts navigate complex political landscapes while maintaining their core principles. This episode examines the strategic maneuvers used by media personalities to engage listeners and shape public opinion, addressing the challenges they face in maintaining relevance and credibility. From Glenn Beck's journey of transformation to the sharp debates by Charlie Kirk, John Rush breaks down the barriers that hosts overcome to keep their shows impactful and thought-provoking.
SPEAKER 15 :
This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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SPEAKER 15 :
My advice to you is to do what your parents did.
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SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. A couple of shows, by the way, that we didn't mention during the last hour where I have a lot of respect for these individuals. I think they are spot, again, they're another one of these where they're, you know, in my world, and probably Andy is the same, 90, 95% of the time we're going to agree there may be just some small things here or there that, you know, we may not agree on. That would be Dana Lashley, by the way, follows me up at 7 o'clock here on KLZ. I think she's really spot on. I'm not saying that just because she's a part of what we do. I just think she's that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
In general.
SPEAKER 08 :
I have long had a lot of respect for Dana Lash. I love her perspective. I like her delivery. I like Dana Lash. She's really good.
SPEAKER 03 :
Clay and Buck are the other ones, which we didn't mention last hour, that I really know. They stepped into Rush's spot, Rush Limbaugh, and have, by the way, done an – I don't know if the network knew they would be as good as they were, but as they can, again, there were a few trial and errors with some different people and so on, but they ended up landing on those two. And I'll just tell you straight up that, again, there's very few things that with those two I disagree on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Clay and Buck, to me, are hands down the best show in the country.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I don't think they get enough credit for that, by the way, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I don't. And I think they should get more. I think that they are hands down the best show in the country. I think another show that is surprisingly good at times is Jesse Kelly. That one I don't know. Yeah. I don't know why. I don't know that one. He's different times at different places around the country. But also we have to come back to Glenn Beck.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
Glenn Beck, he and his partner, now Glenn has obviously gotten a little more, you know, gotten a lot older, but he's got a partner who does a lot of delivery with him. And when they are together in the studio, the interplay between them, the ping pong, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, back and forth. Very good. I think Glenn has a much better show than he had actually a decade ago.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, because a decade ago, frankly, folks, there were so many things that Glenn got off on conspiratorial-wise, and he was really big on, because he's a Mormon, he was really big on, at one point in time, Romney was going to win because it was God's chosen one, and this, that, and the other, and he just got off on the deep end on some of that stuff. And really, I hate to say this, Andy, but I think he lost his way for a while.
SPEAKER 08 :
He did. And Glenn Beck, we have to keep in mind, remember Acorn, the group Acorn? He outed them. And boy, did he do it well. He burned them to the ground. He was the one who really early on told everybody, buy gold. And he was dead right. Glenn Beck has been so right on a lot of things. Then he went off, like you said, into the weirdness wilderness for a while and, you know, and started fixating on these things. And maybe, who knows, maybe Tucker will calm down and come back because I think Tucker is as gifted as Clay and Buck. I think in just in terms of giftedness. in his delivery, I think he's there with Klan Buck. I don't think he can catch up with them again.
SPEAKER 03 :
They have lapped the field. By the way, I agree with you. That old saying, never say never, so you can never say that things can't ever turn around. Although I hate to say this, I think Tucker is going to suffer from – Hear me out here. Okay. Tucker is going to suffer from some of the same things that even Donald Trump suffers from at times, and that is too many of his fans feeding into the things that he's doing. He only listens to them and not some of the negatives that are out there, in turn feeling like, well, I'm just feeding my fan base, meaning I don't know that he's got any choice, and I don't think he can go the other direction, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and John, I think that's true of a lot of them when you look at Ben Shapiro on trade. Okay? Because I understand that people who want to be free trader, free trader, free trader. I am a free trader, but it's not free trade if somebody's charging you 100% on tariffs and you're not charging anything. It's not free trade.
SPEAKER 03 :
Especially when you're the biggest buyer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, and you're the biggest buyer. You have to look at this new paradigm of, look, we have to take advantage of our buying power. We have to take advantage of our leverage, and we have a president for the first time in generations who is doing that, and you can't sit back and say, no, all tariffs are wrong. I'm sorry, but it's provably false.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're proving my point, Andy, on even a lot of these talk show hosts like Ben. The difference between those two... Trump's ran businesses, understands everything that we're talking about along those lines, has written many a payroll check. And no offense, Ben hasn't. And all of you are going to say, well, they all run their own little media companies and they all kind of are. Folks, trust me. It is not the same as what Donald Trump has done in regards to being a buyer of and building things and so on. Even what I've done over the course of my career doesn't hold a candle. I have done much more in that world than Ben Shapiro will ever think of doing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, here's a question. Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, Charlie Kirk obviously has wowed the universe with the way he debated college students and profs on campuses. And he still does this, and he is brilliant. He makes lawyers look dumb. This guy is absolutely brilliant. He is the best at debate in that form that I have ever seen, along with Ben Shapiro, by the way. Shapiro is the only other one who I think could possibly keep up, but I think Kirk is the king.
SPEAKER 03 :
The difference between the two is, back to John's point a moment ago from Cheyenne, Ben will get off on some of those weirdness tangents that Charlie Kirk's not going to go off on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. However, Kirk is, you know, with Turning Point USA, Turning Point, they just had their, you know, their big powwow shindig. And there was a lot of hating on Israel there. Right. They've got a real problem with the libertarians.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which they need to get away from, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they've got a real problem with the libertarian bent, and that's going to take them down. Guys, there is a reason the libertarians are such a small party. It's not because we're all a bunch of haters. It's because their ideas don't work in the real world. I've been debating a number of libertarians recently online, and they don't seem to understand the concept of that you have to get more votes to win. It's not a concept.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's a fact.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but I'm not just talking in an election. I'm talking about in Washington when you're trying to govern. Who was the big one, the libertarian out of Kentucky? Not Rand Paul, the other guy in the House.
SPEAKER 03 :
Massey.
SPEAKER 08 :
Massey. And I was saying Thomas Massey is a terrible Republican. And they're like, oh, he's the only one who's principled, and we're not principled, and all this. And I'm like, guys, you don't understand. Outside of his not love for Israel, Thomas Massey and I agree on everything, okay? We do. But you can't abandon strategy. And his followers will even look at you and say, well, because I'll look at them and say, hey, what is he doing to help New York Republicans keep their seats? OK, I got news for you. New York Republicans, 80 percent of the voters in their districts wanted that increase in the salt deduction up to 40 percent. They want to rob the rest of America. Well, that's terrible. Yeah, I know it is. But that's what they want. And if we don't give them somebody who gets it.
SPEAKER 03 :
But really quick, before you say that's terrible, it is. Yeah. Be careful because there's a lot of folks listening, you farmers and others that are out there. No offense. You're on the dole, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
Be careful. My point is, be careful who you're pointing fingers at when it comes to things like that because there are some of you listening even right now that are in the same position.
SPEAKER 08 :
Especially if you're a farmer in Iowa.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sorry. Talk about being on the dole. Sorry. But you are.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. But you see what I'm saying? And I would look at them and I'd say, guys, here's the bottom line. If you do not have a majority in the House, not only do you not get to pass any good legislation, it's all shut down, but all investigations. into the J6, what happened with J6 2020, and all these things goes away. Russian collusion goes away. All of these investigations go away because you're not in charge of the House. You have to be in charge of the House. You cannot be in charge of the House unless you have a bunch. There are probably 25 to 30 Republicans who are holding seats in very purple and even blue-leaning districts in places like New York. And so I look at them, John, and I say this. What plan has Thomas Massey offered that would help those Republicans keep their seats?
SPEAKER 03 :
They don't have any.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and they come back and they say, well, Thomas Massey, what he wanted instead of a big, beautiful bill, he wanted 12 little bills. Oh, OK. That means that you pass two or three bills that are easy, that have the popular stuff, and you get nothing else because you can't get it. And guess what you do?
SPEAKER 03 :
You're no further along.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're no further along.
SPEAKER 03 :
Actually, you're behind doing that, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're way behind because now all those seats get lost in 2026.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you lost a ton of time.
SPEAKER 08 :
And now the Democrats have a 30-seat majority in the House.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you can't do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And the entire MAGA agenda is over. You had to do a big bill.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We left off talking about how everything Andy was mentioning nationwide, you know, on the national level, also comes back to home and applies to here in Colorado as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can I mention one other person? Yeah. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Did you hear what? Okay. She doesn't like Israel. She wants us to pull only six members of Congress for like total jihadis. And then Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene voted to pull military funding from Israel. OK, and here's her reasoning. I'm sorry. This is great. She says they've got Israel has nuclear weapons. They can defend themselves. Okay, Marjorie, are you saying that you want Israel to nuke everybody they have a disagreement with? There's no in-between. They're okay because they can nuke people, John. This is when I look at these people and I'm just like, you're off the deep end.
SPEAKER 03 :
This goes back to the things I've said many, many times on this program. I've interviewed and have been around enough of these people to know that, unfortunately, they're not always the brightest in the room. I'm sorry, but they're not. They got elected. Doesn't mean they're smart by any means.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not always. Okay, back to Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
So everything Andy said nationally speaking also applies here in Colorado, which for some odd reason, and maybe this is changing under our current leadership, let's hope so. But unfortunately, in Colorado, we haven't figured out what Andy was talking about nationally. In other words, we need some wins here. We need some wins there. We've got to make sure we protect this district, protect that district. We might not have the exact person able to win in that particular district, but it's still a win, and a win is better than a loss. So we haven't figured that out here in the state of Colorado either.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, we haven't. And, you know, you can't have leadership, especially you're in a blue state, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Here? Yeah. Really, Andy? Obviously.
SPEAKER 08 :
Newsflash? Yeah, I'm just letting people. Hey, guys, just so you know, we're in a blue state. Okay. All right. So you're in a blue state. You can't have lead. That doesn't mean compromise, compromise, compromise, compromise. But you've got to be very good in picking your battles. And explaining your side.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but let me step in for a moment.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Anybody that says, you know, we can't compromise, I would ask them, have you ever raised kids? Have you ever owned a business? Have you ever done anything in retail? In other words— Have you ever been married? Thank you. You're compromising constantly on certain things. So this whole attitude of you can't compromise, no, you can't go against your core principles. I get that. We have certain things that are undisputable. You know, faith in Christ and on down the line we go, Andy. Those are undisputable things. I understand that. You never give in on those things. But when it comes to how you get to an end goal, there's always compromise.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, but John, you would agree compromise is very important in marriage. It's important in life, Andy. So when does my wife start?
SPEAKER 03 :
I can't answer that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
She's very powerful. I can't answer that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very powerful.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, I'm kidding, of course. Okay, getting back to, you can't, What does it do, especially to those Republicans who are in the tough districts, but they're winnable, right? You're within three to four points either way. What does it do to have your state chair tell Republicans to burn pride flags?
SPEAKER 03 :
It kills your ability to do anything in that district.
SPEAKER 08 :
What does it do to have your state leadership say, we want to force our way out of the open primary? In other words, that way, all of the advertising, everything is only going to go to the Democrats. So they're still going to have a primary. And all of that information is going to go to the independents only for one party.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, you Rhino, you Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, I'm just talking strategy, but here's the thing. What people need to understand is my views are almost identical to a lot of the Davidians. Yeah. Okay. My views are, we, we have almost all the exact same difference is strategy, Andy. Right. I look at them and I say, guys, absolutely. Okay. I agree with you on all these things, but we got to win.
SPEAKER 03 :
You don't win, you don't have a seat at the table.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can't demand your way to victory. You can't demand your way to a sale.
SPEAKER 03 :
No seat at the table means you have no voice in anything that goes on, which, by the way, this last legislative session down at the Capitol is exactly where we were. We literally had very little, if anything, to say about what went on. I'm going to interview Mark Baisley, who's been a part of that, on Thursday. We're going to talk about some of that. And the reality is we need more wins because we have very, very, very little voice and power at the state Capitol right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. John, we're a football team that on every play throws a Hail Mary.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hoping we're going to get across the goal line.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because we don't believe in first downs. That's compromise. You're only getting five, ten, you know, you're only getting three yards here, eight yards there. You're only getting first downs. You're compromising. Look, guys, you have to.
SPEAKER 03 :
You didn't get a touchdown that last time, Andy, so that didn't count. Right. You didn't get it. Right. Literally, that's what they're saying, right? You didn't get a touchdown, so that doesn't count. Exactly. But wait a minute. We gained five yards. So, yeah, it does count because we're moving the ball forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. But again, let me go back to it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead, please. I hate to keep reiterating this, folks, but I think it's so true. And I get it. There may be a few exceptions to this rule here in the state of Colorado, but I would challenge any of you that are on that Davidian side of the aisle. How many of you have actually ran a business? And I'm not talking a business out of your house where you're selling, you know, wares and so on, or you're an eBay person. No, I'm not talking about that. I mean, you've actually been in the marketplace. You've written paychecks. You've employed individuals. You've competed against competitors. By the way, more than two or three people. I mean, you've employed lots of people over the years, and you've actually competed in the marketplace. I would challenge that there's very, very, very few few of those individuals in this group we're talking about. Because if there were, Andy, they would understand everything we're talking about.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. They'd be out in the real world, and they'd understand that not many people in the real world want a hard right view, especially in Colorado.
SPEAKER 03 :
They don't understand.
SPEAKER 08 :
We've got to win them over first.
SPEAKER 03 :
You say it all the time, rightfully so. They don't know the market, meaning if they'd ever been in business, because you're in business, you have to know the market or you go broke. They don't know the market because they've never done business.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, you know, the funny thing is, John, when you see a Davidian who has been in the market and has been a salesman and, you know, actually had a business, they don't conduct their business at all how they're telling us to conduct the party. They compromise all the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
You have to.
SPEAKER 08 :
You have to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or you won't make it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Every transaction is a compromise. I would love if I ran a Safeway, I would love to charge $20 for a gallon of milk and have people pay for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not reality.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're not going to do it. And by the way, that doesn't mean that I want to sell milk for a dime. Okay? You have to have a deal. You have to have some kind of a balance there. You have to have a deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, here's something that side doesn't understand. Okay, go ahead. A sale doesn't even start until the customer says no.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Meaning, there's not even any negotiation that happens. Because if the customer always agrees with you, that's not a sale, it's a transaction. Right. They're just buying because it's a transaction. Yeah, exactly. In other words, sales don't happen until the customer says, no, now you have to put your sales hat on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. A sale is when you have to persuade them to buy what you're selling.
SPEAKER 03 :
I always say it this way. It's a lot like the gospel.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
A sale, in my opinion, the definition of, and I know this isn't in the textbook anywhere, and it's not in the MBA world or anything like that, but this is my definition of a sale. Definition of a sale to me is getting somebody else to believe in something as much as I do to turn their hard-earned money over for it. That's a sale. Right. It's not a sale until then. In other words, I have to get them to believe enough in it for them to put that money towards it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, and now take the money out, and guess what? Everything is the same in politics.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now go to politics, that's right. I have to get you, Andy, to believe enough in what I believe in to vote for it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, but nobody in our party, and by the way, this isn't just the Davidians. This is the moderates as well. Mm-hmm. The Colorado Republican Party at large is not persuading anyone to join the right. It's not persuading anyone to become a conservative because, by the way, it's not good to become an ultra-compromiser like Liz Cheney.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, you can't do that either.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you're selling out.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's totally the opposite.
SPEAKER 08 :
You see, when you do that, what are you doing? When you sell out like that, you're actually advertising our principles on our side suck. Don't buy these.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let me give you a better example. Yeah, go ahead. And I've used this in the business world a ton. That's the person that the Liz Cheney's, that's the person that sells by just discounting the product enough to where the person then buys it. They're not getting a belief transferred at all. They just made the price cheap enough that the other person will buy it, meaning they're selling on price and price alone.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would take a step further. I believe Liz Cheney is selling at a loss.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that could be as well. Okay, I won't argue that. She's giving away the store. Yeah, and any time you do that, you can sell, quote-unquote, any product, but you're really not selling anything.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. You're worthless.
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back. Myself, Andy Pate. Dave, Woodland Park. What's going on, Dave?
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, guys. Great show, great show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 12 :
The GOP, oh, my gosh. Talk about they don't shoot themselves in the foot. They shoot themselves in the knees.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, Dave, actually, let me put it better than that even. Great analogy, but I'm going to change that. They light the dynamite and hang on to it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm going to do one more. They pull the pin out of the grenade and they throw the pin.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, good analogy, yeah. I mean, regardless, they're so sabotaging, Dave.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's awful. So many factions, and those factions go and preach to their little choirs, and that's why they can't get anywhere. If they would get away from themselves, take the message like Trump did to everyone, and And that will gain you success. That will at least get you the attention of the people that you have not been talking to. There is a ministerial elite alliance in Denver, in the Denver area, that has thousands of members. I mean, hundreds of pastors, and when Steve House went and talked to them when he was running, he didn't win, but he still went and talked to them, and And when Trump ran, Derek Wilburn went in and talked to them. He reached out to them. And now some of those guys are in a group that we have, a conservative group that we have. Gee, the GOP has to get over itself. and start talking to the people that are not in the choir, because we do have great ideas, we have great principles. You know, you talk to black people about the fact that almost 47% of black births are being aborted. You talk to them about there are 43 million black people in the United States. Well, there should be 60 million, but we have aborted 17 million, a third of our population. That's genocidal. And talking about the importance of dads being at home, and, you know, there's so many issues that we could win on.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what, everything you just said reminded me of something else, Dave, and this is, it's so comparative to, let's face it, the Gospel, whereas the Gospel is the greatest message, we talk about it, greatest message to mankind, correct? Yes. Yes. Because it applies to everyone equally. There's no respecter of persons when it comes to that. Everybody's treated exactly the same way. Everybody has the same opportunity at the end of the day. It literally is the greatest message, the greatest story ever told, I guess you could say, Dave. And we as a GOP have the same story when it comes to politics and the way the country runs. We just communicate it like crap.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, we don't articulate it well. And we talk about spending deficits and, you know, those things that people aren't even thinking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nope. As much as they're near and dear to us, and they are, Dave, and I realize down the road what it's going to do to not only my generation but future generations. So, yes, it's very important. But to your point, the person that's struggling to put gas in the car and food on the table and buy insurance and make a mortgage payment, no offense, Dave, they don't care.
SPEAKER 12 :
And they don't have—it's like you cannot talk to a person who's hungry.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can't. You've got to feed them first.
SPEAKER 12 :
You've got to feed them first. And you look at—and getting back to the Gospel, Yeshua, after talking to those people, he saw that they were worn out.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we said— Well, the feeding of the 5,000, you know, hey, let's all sit down, let's have a meal first, let's break some bread, and then guess what? Then I'll give you a message.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, and then people are listening, and you see them following him, and he tells them, you're not following me because of what I thought. You're following me because of what you ate.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I really think that the Republican Party doesn't understand what a great message it has.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
They really don't. They're afraid of their own message. It's like, look, folks, you do realize everybody is running away from every place Democrats run.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I mean, think about that for a moment.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're running away from everywhere. California, biggest exodus of all states right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And all urban areas are running. They run to suburban or rural areas. If you have to constantly run away from everything they run, I mean, that's quite a sales pitch. And you combine that, Dave, with the fact that Trump is going to bring a jobs boom in urban areas for manufacturing. Yeah. It's coming, baby.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, Andy, in everything, Andy, you just said, I feel, I'm sorry the comparisons are so similar, but they are. Everything Andy just said about the political party, the Republican Party, Dave, is the same thing the Church has going on. Both have the tremendous message, things that people will buy into, but don't communicate it effectively or think for some odd reason that people want to hear something different than that.
SPEAKER 12 :
You are so right on. And one of the things that i love about the little church that i go to and this is what the gop needs to understand we key on the word salvation in the church salvation salvation salvation yeshua came to to give us yeah he came to give us salvation but even more even more identifiable is relationship redemption aim to give us back our relationship with our Father.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. Redeem us. I like the word redeem better than salvation, because people can understand what... Because most people, when you say salvation, well, save me from what? I don't need saved. I'm good on my own. But redemption, Dave, people understand what that word means.
SPEAKER 12 :
And then when you take that and you start to combine it with relationship, that Daddy wants to talk to you. I call God Daddy. Daddy wants to talk to you. He wants to hear you. He is attentive to every moment in your life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right. And when it comes to the political end of things, Dave, you look at what we believe as a republic, not democracy. In other words, everybody has equal representation. We want you to be the best that you can be. We want to give you the tools to be the best that you can be. We don't want government feeding you. We want you feeding yourself. We want you to be the best you could ever be. What a tremendous message, Dave.
SPEAKER 12 :
That is, it's a wonderful message. And when you think about what happened after the Emancipation Proclamation, 1865, and then on up into the 1940s and 50s, and I'm using black people again because they came from a sub-zero to just, I mean, they're more black millionaires and black billionaires in the United States than all other countries combined. And you look at where they came from being 70 percent illiterate to over 70 percent literate. And just the accomplishments that were made without government.
SPEAKER 03 :
And really quick, Dave, if it weren't for the Democrat Party, that number would be 90 percent. Sorry, but it would be. Hey, Dave, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
I got to ask you a question. It's kind of an emotional one. I'm serious here. What does it do in the black community when you were talking about daddy wants to talk to you and you're talking about God? Is that more thirsted for, do they thirst for that more or less in the black community where so many families don't have a father?
SPEAKER 12 :
This is just my opinion. The black church has really undone itself. it's really, to me, it's corrupted itself tremendously. Because number one, they're identifying themselves as the black church. Number two, they talk about a God that's throwing lightning bolts. They talk about a God, you know, Yeshua is an insurance policy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that's not who Daddy is.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and what you're saying is, unfortunately, they're doing what I grew up in and finally had to have my own enlightenment and not do that in that way because, again, Charlie, both him and I, and even Andy's wife, that's how we were all raised is exactly the way you're talking, Dave.
SPEAKER 12 :
And black people need to understand that there's only one race daddy created one race the human race yeah absolutely absolutely oh there's no black gene there's no white gene there's no asian gene none of that there is one race and we keep getting divided even religiously and that to me is that'll that'll sink your boat faster than anything can't disagree dave you're wise dave i appreciate you as always love you man as you know Love you too, man. Great show.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, man. Appreciate you, Dave. Thank you very much. Guys, I meant what I just said. Dave's been calling in here for, gosh, almost since I started 11 years ago. I've been talking to Dave that long. By the way, just an encouragement to be on air and hear what he says. An encouragement, I think, Andy, to know that Everything we say doesn't fall on deaf ears. There are people out there that agree with what we say, and there are people that want to see the party, the church as well, but the party change. We just have to somehow get people to understand that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can I ask you one thing before we go to break?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, we were talking about Dave is this incredibly unifying character.
SPEAKER 03 :
He always has been, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
I've known him for years. Right now, the party is so incredibly divided. And what we saw last night, and I talk about that, was so aggressive. It was completely organized, orchestrated, full of rage and hate. And it was just really something. But we're talking about a group of people, John, that think virtually all the same opinions you and I do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is there any way that these that these two sides can finally forgive and realize, look, it's a strategic difference that we have, not a principles difference? We have virtually no disagreements in principle. Our disagreements are in strategy and we both want to win. Can't we listen to each other? Because guess what? At times they're right. You can compromise yourself right out of the market.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You can. And by the way, but at times they're wrong. You can also go to purity hell and suddenly you can't sell. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
The same thing happens in business, by the way, Andy. In other words, really quick, you can be somebody that feels like, oh, I need this product, I need that product, I need this product. In other words, you're compromising even what your core business is by getting off on all these ancillary things that then you miss out on the core business and you're not making any money on the same token. Businesses can say, you know what, we've always done it this way. We've always sold this product. We're not even going to look at some of these other ancillary things we can bring in because this is the way we've always done it. That's wrong as well. Somewhere there's balance between those two, and it's something that the – and I was going to say this. I think as far as the party as a whole in Colorado goes – that there are far more people, independents and Republicans, that think the way we're talking now. The problem is the leadership in those that are still involved in the SEC, as you were saying earlier, the problem is we still have this large core of individuals that have a lot to do with how the party runs that are screwing it up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. All they want is power.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's not what all Republicans in Colorado want, by the way. No. But it's what they want.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Did I say that correctly?
SPEAKER 08 :
John, the SEC is less than, what, a tenth of 1% of the party.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. It's a very, very small portion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. And what we saw last night was only the desire for power.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nothing else. Here's the other problem, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely nothing else.
SPEAKER 03 :
These same people would be the same ones to come along and say, well, yeah, but our way of doing things is the only thing that matters because we're the activists. We're the fundamentalists. We're the ones that really get the ball rolling. So at the end of the day, we're the only ones that count. Am I right in that? Yes. That's how they feel. We're the only ones that count. We're the only ones putting in the time and the effort and the energy. So we're the only ones that matter.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yes. They want there to be no primaries. They want only the activists to be able to vote on who our candidates are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they feel like only I matter.
SPEAKER 08 :
They won't admit that, but yes.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, and we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Gaines. Okay, to coincide with some of what we've been talking about, which this really, I think, is the opposite of what people want to hear. Now, I get it. Maybe there's some in Denver that want to hear Mike Johnson talk about how great the city is, although I think anybody with any kind of a brain understands that the city is in utter disarray right now. Horrible. But he still delivers a state of the city address and essentially is telling everybody how great things are. So he's lying. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. In fact, it's funny. I talked to a Denver police officer the other day, just out of the blue, happened to have a conversation and was talking about just how dismal the current leadership actually is. the fact that the majority of the calls they have in Denver always end up being in, you know, one of several places that have to do with Section 8 housing and homelessness and on and on we go. And, of course, my first thing I said was, A, thank you for what you're doing. I wouldn't want your job, so thank you for doing that because I don't want to do what you do. And his comment was, it's really a shame that we spend the lion's share of our time in areas that we shouldn't even be there in the first place and we're really not helping the citizens that are writing the checks. These are the police officers saying this. Not the mayor, a police officer.
SPEAKER 08 :
So we're not helping the citizens who are writing the checks.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're not. We're helping those that aren't. We're helping those that are sucking off the system.
SPEAKER 08 :
Basically, they are protecting the ones writing the checks from those who don't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct. One of the things, of course, that Mike Johnston talked about was homelessness. On the first day of our administration, we declared a state of emergency on homelessness. Yeah, and you haven't done anything about it since. We did it because we had people dying on the street in record numbers. We had large encampments spread around the city, by the way, you still do. We had thousands of tents blocking access to post offices and churches, by the way, you still do. Strangling businesses and frightening residents, and you still do. Nothing has changed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Strangling businesses, that's bigger than ever. They're a joke.
SPEAKER 03 :
It hasn't changed. Andy, these people must just live in, you know, Mike Johnston, must just live in total la-la land because everything he just said, nothing's changed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but John, he knows he's lying. He lives in spin land. Okay, he's lying. He knows. He knows. He absolutely knows. I mean, when you pay people to be here illegally, come on. When you look the other way in crime, come on. When you let the homeless run rampant. over the streets in front, you know, on street corners in front of businesses where they're trying to pay the taxes to fund, you know, to pay all the bills, you know, he knows he doesn't care.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And he's even run on the fact that, you know, you won't see any more of these encampments. You won't see a single, you know, tent, this, that, and the other. You know, we're going to revitalize downtown. And again, none. Mike, sorry, not trying to be disrespectful here, but none of that has happened. Zilch.
SPEAKER 08 :
How come the Democrats never do anything to transition people?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's hard work. Because they, well, they want them on the dole, Andy. It's called the golden rule. The guy with the gold rules. Right. They want these people to need them. They're living by the golden rule.
SPEAKER 08 :
The more needy people, the more Democrats. Absolutely. Right. We want people to be needed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
At a job. And by the way, I got news for you folks out there. It is a much better feeling to be needed than to be needy. When you wake up every morning and you need that check from the government, you need those food stamps, you need that help, that Medicaid, that's not a good feeling. But when you wake up every day and they need you to show up at a job, even if you don't like the job that day, even if you're not too fond of your boss still, You're needed there, man. Your coworkers need you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Your family needs you. The marketplace needs you. On down the line, we go.
SPEAKER 08 :
You are needed. Everybody wants to be needed, not needy. And this is something that I think the Republican Party has to start selling more.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it goes back to what we were talking about with Dave. We have a great message, Andy. We just don't do a very good job of presenting it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, John, for the last two years, and I know I'm beating up the old... Right now, guys, I'm not tearing into the Davidians because of the big rift we had. Set that aside, please.
SPEAKER 03 :
It just has to do with strategy.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm just talking about the message. The market out there, they don't want to hear how much you want to get them out of your primary. Whether it's a good thing or not, they don't care about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Andy, let me go further on a few other things. They also don't want to hear about abortion. Even though it's a big deal to you and I, they don't want to hear about abortion. It's huge for me. But it isn't to them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
In fact, it's quite the opposite for them. So what are a few other topics that our side think are really important, but the middle especially look at and say, yeah, that's not a big deal to me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, John, here in Colorado, our side has been pushing things that don't even have any, they're barely even political issues. What about the steal? The 2020 steal.
SPEAKER 03 :
They don't care about that at all, do they?
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, I think it's great that the Trump administration is looking into it because they're going to expose some things. And I think also they're going to make it much harder to cheat going forward. But I got news for you, Colorado. There's nothing you could have done here about it. And yet you wasted all this money and time preaching about the 2020 steal when the market was saying we don't care.
SPEAKER 03 :
And in Colorado, you didn't even have the right people in place to have any kind of a landslide win. Here's my point, and it's been this way all along in Colorado. They didn't have to cheat. Sorry, folks. We're not presenting the right kind of candidates in Colorado to win in the first place. So the reality is I'm sorry. This is going to hurt a lot of people, what I'm saying here. But they don't have to cheat. No. They're winning without it. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, let me run a few. And you've heard these comments from me before, okay? But tell me if these are more attractive than what we've been selling. I want you to have an economy people run to, not from.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sells. Okay. Okay. Your child's success is my only agenda in schools. It's all I want. Your kid to succeed. That's our only agenda. Take everything else out.
SPEAKER 03 :
It sells.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. You see what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 03 :
What about traffic, Andy? How do I help you get from A to B faster?
SPEAKER 08 :
Two lines. I mean, two words. More lanes. Right. I want you to have more lanes and better lanes.
SPEAKER 1 :
Period.
SPEAKER 03 :
What about, Andy, we want to go from the state that is in the top three of all cars stolen to the bottom three?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't want you to have to worry about your car being in your driveway or not when you come back home.
SPEAKER 08 :
I want you to have less crime. Two words, less crime.
SPEAKER 03 :
How hard is that to sell, Andy? Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, no, John, it's not hard at all for crying out loud. This is easy stuff. And what about what I was saying earlier? For people, you know, they say, well, you can't reach into those communities. Oh, yeah? I want you to be needed, not needy. I believe that every day you wake up wanting to be, you're just like me. You and I have this in common. Maybe I can be a multimillionaire, and I want you to know something. I want to wake up every day being needed, not needy, and so do you.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're the same. Let's work together. Why can't we sell this? Instead, we're worried about stuff that no one cares about. I know. I'm sorry to say, but we do, Andy. We worry about things no one cares about.
SPEAKER 08 :
Our messages get out of our primary. Right or wrong, that's not what they want to hear.
SPEAKER 03 :
Andy, I can tell you right now, that is like the last thing on their mind.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and when they hear it, it doesn't sound good.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, first of all, they don't even understand the inner workings of how that works in the first place.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're blaming us for you having bad candidates? Even if it were true, they don't want to hear that. They want to hear all these things. The Republican Party right now has so many great things. Well, my gosh, we just got rid of taxes on tips. So why can't we look at them? Let's say you disagree with that or agree with that. I actually don't like the policy, okay? But setting that aside. When you tip a waitress, do you want to tip her or the government? Well, I want to tip her. Well, great. Now you can.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now your tip just goes to that waitress. So what you're telling me is they didn't want to hear no flags? Do you want to hear... Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
God hates flags. Did they want to hear that, Andy? Did they want to hear that? God hates flags. Did they want to hear that? No. But do they want to hear... You don't want guys in your daughter's locker room. Yeah, they did want to hear that.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's a big one, Andy. That one they do understand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. They want to hear that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you want guys playing in your daughter's sports? No, they don't. I do believe there's a majority of Coloradans that will buy into that one easily. Yes, there's a percentage that don't care, that want it the other way, but not very many, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. How about this? You want to choose what car to drive, not the government to tell you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's up to you.
SPEAKER 03 :
We want you to have that choice.
SPEAKER 08 :
We trust you to choose your own car.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can make your own decision. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
We believe you know what car you want.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we are not going to take out of somebody else's pocket, out of your pocket included, so somebody else can go do what they want to do. Right. We want all of you having equal opportunity when it comes to that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, again, why do we have such a hard time selling this, Andy?
SPEAKER 08 :
John, it all sells. It all sells. And our party here in Colorado spent two years protesting rather than selling.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and we've said this many, many times, and I want the other side to really hear this. You cannot sell protest. You cannot sell a protest vote. No one cares.
SPEAKER 08 :
Protest only sells to people who are like-minded already. Those are the people who are going to share your protest. By the way, they're not the only problem. It's not just the Davidians. The moderates. We've had big-time moderate candidates, and we could reel off their names here.
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No different.
SPEAKER 08 :
Have they reached the market?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
They've been totally ineffective. Right.
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All right, we're going to wrap today up. Myself, Charlie Grimes, Andy Pate, of course. Be careful out there driving around. There's still some rough weather kicking around, so as always, be careful with that. Tomorrow, I've got somebody coming on, which I'm going to have to be sold on because I've talked to these folks before, and I'm not totally bought in on this whole EMF radiation coming out of your phones. Should you be using them? Should you not? I've got a guest that's going to join us during health and wellness where we'll go into that, and I will— actually present to him that he's going to have to sell me on all of this because I'll tell you right now, I'm not sold on all of that, and he'll have to sell me. Okay. We'll see how it goes tomorrow. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
On today's program: Greg Steube, U.S. Representative for the 17th District of Florida, responds to the tension over the Epstein files in Congress, Iran's absurd conditions for a nuclear deal, and his legislation to protect Americans who believe in
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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We all understand that the America First agenda and the American people are best served by putting an end to the Democrats' sideshows, and that's what we're doing by not allowing the Rules Committee to continue with that nonsense this week.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson earlier today announcing that the House would adjourn until September as Republicans and Democrats continue to spar over the release of the Epstein files. Welcome to this July 22nd edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Here's what's coming up. Iran has once again defying global pressure despite the threat of sanctions. Tehran says it will not. It will not. abandon its pursuit of enriched uranium. And it's vowing to retaliate if the UN Security Council reinstates snapback sanctions under the JCPOA.
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Our enrichment is so dear to us. We are ready to engage into negotiation to make sure that our enrichment is only for peaceful purposes. We are not ready to give up something which is now a question of a matter of dignity for the Iranian people, a matter of national pride.
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That was Iran's foreign minister. We'll talk about it. The National Children's Hospital announced last week that it will no longer provide gender transition treatments, citing escalating legal and regulatory risk. Well, those risks may soon increase. Florida Congressman Greg Stubbe and Missouri Senator Josh Hawley have introduced a bill creating a private right of action against providers of chemical and surgical mutilation of minors. Congressman Greg Stubbe joins us with the details in just a moment. And this morning, FRC hosted Governor Yossi Dagan for a breakfast briefing with dozens of members of Congress, highlighting the case for Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Governor Dagan will join me in studio. And finally, first it was Big Bird. Now we're told public safety is at risk because of congressional cuts to public broadcasting. That's the claim from NPR CEO Catherine Moore. The Washington stand's Suzanne Bowdy and Casey Harper join me to set the record straight. All of this and more coming up on this edition of Washington Watch. Last night, the House Rules Committee came to a complete standstill as House Republican leaders worked to contain rank and file Republicans and their Democratic allies, all clamoring for a floor vote to compel the publication of materials related to the late and infamous Jeffrey Epstein. Well, as a result, House leadership announced the House would adjourn early for the August break. But will the Epstein issue be waiting for them in September? Joining me now to talk about this and much more, Florida Congressman Greg Stubbe, who is a member of the House Intel Committee. Congressman Stubbe, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, good to see you, Tony. Surprised that the House is going to adjourn early and head home over the Epstein files?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, I'm not surprised because the calendar, this Congress has been so up in turmoil. Last week, we were supposed to be gone on Thursday. We stayed through the night. We were voting at one o'clock in the morning to get that appropriations bill out last week. All the while, this Epstein stuff has been around the peripheral of all these issues. I support making transparency and opening this up, but you have to be mindful of victims. There's a lot of laws protecting the victims, even if those victims are now adults. there's still protection for those victims and you have victims rights. So any release would have to take into consideration, not alluding to any of the victims of any of this case unless they want to willfully come forward. But you obviously haven't seen that. So there's going to be a lot of have to care that's going to have to be given for the release of these files but i support it i don't understand why i certainly don't want to leave and give up uh cras that we could abolish biden era rules from his agency i think that's important work for the american people and it's sad to see us get sidetracked on something like this so let's go back i mean i i wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to this but i mean
SPEAKER 12 :
It has become probably more of an issue because of the transparency issue, and there was promises that it was going to be released. Attorney General Pam Bondi originally said she had a list of names on her desk, and then all of a sudden it doesn't have a list. Can Congress, I mean, I know that we often see redacted documents released all the time. Is it not possible to release documentation with victims redacted and we're only looking at the other facts in this case?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you can. But whatever we do in the House obviously has to go to the Senate as well. And there's other I mean, I don't know if there's pieces of this that are classified. I don't I don't know what the situation is. It relates to that. If the bill comes to the floor to release Epstein files, I would support that. I would vote for that and then let the attorney general make the decision on what can legally be released and what cannot. be legally released. It seems as though the admin, like she's filed a motion to unseal court records. Part of that is the challenge because you have records that have been sealed by courts. So she has to go through that process and unseal some of these records. The challenge at the House has been Democrats are filing motions and rules, amendments on previous question type bills that would then open up these rules and open up these bills for Democrat amendment on other issues. We saw that last week. where they could have amended anything they wanted on all of these different things that we were trying to get done. And obviously they have a nefarious type of intent to do that. And we have Republicans that obviously support opening the Epstein files that are voting with them on these things. So it makes votes very challenging. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
So put the Democrats aside for a moment because they're seizing on a political moment. I mean, because because if they wanted to, they had four years when Joe Biden had control of everything and they could have released these documents had they wanted to. But there was they they wouldn't release any documents. I mean, we we saw the Republicans trying to get information about, you know, the laptop, Hunter Biden's laptop, all this other information that they were sitting on. But I want to ask you this question. Put the Democrats aside. What are you hearing from your constituents? Are they concerned about transparency? Do they want to see what was in there? Do they think this information should be released?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And from conservative circles, I think you're absolutely seeing that, which is why if the Massey discharge comes to the floor, I would vote yes. If there is a resolution that comes to the floor to release these files, I would vote yes. I think the American people deserve transparency. And I think that's what we in Congress should do. So I don't understand that why we're not going to a vote on this because just delaying it until september i don't think like you said i don't think this issue is going away i think we're going to be dealing with this after the august recess maybe there will be more information released by doj at that point i assume so we've also heard today that they're going to interview miss maxwell so there might be some information that they release from that so all of these things will happen by the time we get back but that's not going to change the fact that Mr. Massey's discharge petition will have cured and he can force a vote on that by just calling it up.
SPEAKER 12 :
So let me go back. You're right. Miss Maxwell was there's been word now that she will be brought to testify. Will that be an open? Will that be open to the public or is that going to be behind closed doors?
SPEAKER 05 :
So there's two things going on. You got DOJ that is going to interview her for possible criminal issues as a witness, like she's a witness to possible criminal activity. Then you have the oversight committee in the House that has voted to subpoena her. That could take place behind closed doors in the form of a deposition, or that could take place in an open forum. It would turn into a complete and utter circus if you had her in an open committee room. But certainly, if you brought her in in a deposition, which we've done countless times with different individuals, she's under oath. You can ask her questions. But both sides have the opportunity to ask her those questions. So you've got two different things going on with her. One is on the DOJ side, and one is the congressional side. I don't know Chair Comer's plans. in the next month, maybe bringing her in as soon as possible now that the subpoena has been passed through the committee. I'm not sure what his plans are as far as timeline, but you got both DOJ now willing to talk to her and now you've got a subpoena from the oversight committee coming.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I mean, given where the public is at on this, I think a deposition behind closed doors in Congress would not resolve the angst that's out there and demanding for transparency.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but you could release the depo, which is just typical. You would release the deposition after the statements. The challenge with doing the open, every five-minute type hearing is that every member only has five minutes. Right, it's a circus. Being a lawyer and putting my list. I CAN GO DOWN A LINE OF QUESTIONING FOR TWO HOURS IF I WANT TO. I CAN QUESTION HER FOR EIGHT HOURS IF I WANT TO. INSTEAD OF BEING IN A COMMITTEE TYPE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EACH MEMBER ONLY GETS FIVE MINUTES IN A SHORTENED PERIOD OF TIME, IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO REALLY DIG IN TO CERTAIN SUBJECT MATTERS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT FIVE-MINUTE EVERY MEMBER TYPE THING. PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET ON TV AND GET A CLIP. RIGHT. INSTEAD OF SITTING IN A DEPOSITION WITH LAWYERS AND WALKING THROUGH DEEP QUESTIONINGS ON SPECIFIC
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I think if that is the route, and you're absolutely right. I mean, I think the open hearings become more of a circus. It's kind of a reality TV gone bad. But the public, I don't know. You're going to have to be very clear up front if this is done that the full transcript will be released, unedited transcript, because there's just no trust, unfortunately, in government today because we've seen it even related to the Epstein where there's elements of the footage of his jail cell that was edited, that people don't trust what they're seeing. So we've got to be very, very candid and transparent, and I think that's what the angst is really all about.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, which is why I would support making all of it what you can legally make and disclose to the public. I don't know why that hasn't been done. Like you said, AG Bondi has talked about releasing specific items and then those items weren't released. So you're right, the American public is pretty frustrated at this point with the administration because they said they were going to declassify and make public a lot of this information and it hasn't happened. So hopefully when we get back, we'll get to vote on this. I think we should just get it out of the way now and move on with the business of the House so we can undo a lot of Biden-era administrative rules. But that's where we're at. And maybe in the next month or so, some of these depositions will occur.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Well, Congressman Stubbe, I want to move on here to something else. And that is you talked about the business of the House. The House was already down to very few legislative days when it comes to the end of the fiscal year. I know the House has been working on appropriations with a whole week now basically cut out from next week. Highly unlikely that the House is going to be able to advance the appropriations bills in time to meet that deadline.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and then you're going to have a real challenge because members like me voted for the last CR under the guise that this is just a short-term fix so that we have time to go through the appropriations process coming into the end of September. And now here we are coming into the end of September where more than likely the appropriations process will not be complete and you're going to have to do another CR. I never voted for a CR until President Trump asked us to vote for this last one to give them time to do what they need to do. We've passed two appropriations bills on the House floor. I don't even believe the Senate has started their process of going through the appropriations process. There's nine more to go. There's 11 of them. So it usually takes about a week per appropriations bill, and obviously only four weeks left when we get back from the recess. That makes that timeline very difficult to achieve. And then we're gonna be backed into a corner with a CR. And then the decision as a lawmaker is going to be, do you vote for a continuing resolution to keep funding at the same levels it's been since Nancy Pelosi? Or do you vote no against the CR and shut down the government? And both of those decisions obviously have implications and ramifications to it. I don't want to see the government shut down. At the same time, I don't think we should be continuing this level of spending that we have had because Washington has a spending problem. and we're $37 trillion in debt. So that's going to be the challenge at the end of September if we can't get these appropriations bills across the finish line.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think the argument that Russ Vogt, OMB director, would say is that they can do the rescissions, which you saw, you passed through the House, Senate did. A little timid on the Senate side in terms of cutting, but I think they would advocate that that is the alternative. All right, Congressman, we're up against a break. Greg, we're going to come back. I want to talk about Iran. I want to talk about your legislation that would give those who have been taken advantage of by the gender mutilation factories that have popped up all across the country a right of recourse. We're going to talk about that and more coming up right after the break. So folks, stay tuned, more Washington Watch still ahead. I do wanna encourage you to join us in standing with Pastor Luke Ashe. I talked about it yesterday, gonna talk about it more later, but text the word pastor to 67742.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host. Thanks for tuning in. Last Friday, Children's National Hospital here in D.C. announced that they were ending so-called gender transition procedures for minors due to, quote, escalating legal and regulatory risk. Starting August the 30th, the hospital's providers will cease writing prescriptions for so-called gender affirming medications. Children's National is but the latest in a string of hospitals stepping back from providing these experimental but life altering so-called treatments for children. But what can Congress do to hurry this along and make sure that children are protected? Continuing my conversation with Congressman Greg Stubbe, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee, as well as a permanent select committee on intelligence. He represents the 17th Congressional District of Florida. Congressman Stubbe, thanks for sticking with us through the break. All right. Before I get to the bill that you've introduced, I just want to get your response to to Iran's foreign minister saying that they will not give up their pursuit of enriched uranium. I mean, after all the experience from the United States and Israel, they they're not backing away.
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Yeah, well, that's a problem because Iran cannot be able to obtain a nuclear weapon. And if you enrich across a certain percent, you're not using it for civilian purposes. You're using it for nuclear ambitions from a offensive purpose, a military purpose. And the United States has said unequivocally, and this is a Republican and a Democrat position. Joe Biden said this. Obama said this. Clinton said this. America is not going to let Iran obtain a nuclear weapon. They chant death to America. They chant death to Israel. Israel is obviously not going to allow that to occur as well. So for them, after everything that has happened, after Trump bombed some of their nuclear facilities, for them to say they're not going to give up enrichment is a challenging perspective for them to put themselves in. It puts themselves in a box where the rest of the world, other than China and Russia, Obviously don't think that they should have a nuclear weapon and then puts us in a posture where we have to defend against if they take steps To enrich uranium further than what they're doing or they take steps to put themselves on a path for a nuclear warhead now they admitted that the the bombing from the United States and Israel has done serious damage to their capabilities but
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In their communications regarding the snapback from the JCPOA and the United Nations Security Council putting sanctions back on them, they threatened retaliation. What are they capable of doing?
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Well, that's a great question, and that's a question that we on the Intelligence Committee have been asking our analysts for that type of information of, okay, what has been destroyed? What hasn't been destroyed? What kind of timeline are we looking at for them to be able to recur some of these enrichment proceedings? What does that look like from a military perspective? What does that look like from a defensive perspective? I don't know if anybody knows the answers to those questions, but obviously we have intel, they have intel, the Israelis have intel, and we're going to make sure that the Israelis and ourselves are defended against any attacks if it gets to that point. But we should sanction them as much as possible. If we can cut them off economically, then you're keeping them from being able to do a lot of the things that they can do because they don't have the resources to do it. That's what was so dangerous about the Biden regime was they opened up billions of dollars of revenue to Tehran based on a policy decision and releasing sanctions. All of those should be reinstituted as much as we possibly can to cut them off economically. And they financially won't be able to do the type of things that they want to do.
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Well, I also think that could help facilitate a regime change as well.
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regime change, new leadership, for them to realize that they're going to have to come to the table and negotiate a peace treaty, a peace treaty that does not put them on the path for a nuclear weapon, a peace treaty that is a non-nuclear Iran, which is what the president wants, which is what Marco wants, which is what the world wants, frankly. Even other Arab nations don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. So if it can bring them to the table to talk truly peace and have a peace agreement put in place that doesn't allow them to get nuclear proliferation, then that would be a great step for them, America, our allies in the Middle East and the world.
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All right, Congressman Greg Stubbe, I want to move on to another topic. You were one of the first to address this gender issue. ideology craziness. You did it on the House floor and you had your Democratic colleagues come after you for addressing this issue. But earlier today, you introduced a bill addressing the medical centers that perform these so-called gender transition procedures on children. They're experimental, using drugs and irreversible surgeries. But you are giving those who are taking advantage of an opportunity to fight back. And I think it's going to send a message across America to those who are in this business.
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Yeah, you're going to see if this bill passes, you're going to see hospitals refuse to do this type of procedure. You're going to see medical professionals refuse to do any type of gender mutilation that has been going on in our country. I mean, think if you're one of these minors that was talked into doing something like this, an irreversible physical surgery, and then you become 18 and you become an adult and you realize that you made a mistake and your parents who authorized this decision for you made a mistake and it's irreversible. You can't go back. So what our bill would do, myself and Senator Hawley, is allow for you to have a civil cause of action, a private right of cause of action against the doctors, the physicians, the hospitals, the health networks that allowed this to occur. You will see the behavior change very, very quickly if hospitals believe that they're going to be held civilly liable for doing these type of things. Because Lord knows what a jury would award if a minor was convinced to do this type of surgery and it is irreversible. So I think you would see the behavior change. You already alluded to the fact that some of these hospitals are already changing their policy. I think a lot of that is because President Trump is in the White House. There's different leadership in HHS and our health agencies. There's different leadership in Congress. So the direction of the country obviously does not support this, unlike the Biden administration, and is going back to, frankly, things that are much more reasonable than allowing our minors to do these type of procedures.
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Yeah, I mean, and I've been talking with trial lawyers. I think they'll be all over this when this passes. Very quickly, got about a minute left. You did another bill yesterday, restoring biological truth to the Workplace Act. This would affect actually a pastor in Baton Rouge, bivocational pastor, fired from the local library for refusing to use preferred pronouns. Your legislation would address that. I got about 45 seconds.
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Yeah, and we've seen this in the education realm where teachers are, you know, because of their faith and their biblical values, refuse to refer to a young boy as a she and all these different issues that the far left has taken us to this. So this bill would address these issues and moving forward. And I really hope that the House can move on these two different pieces of legislation and we can send them to the Senate.
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Well, we'll put them up on our website and encourage people to weigh in on it. As always, Greg, appreciate your leadership on these important issues. Anytime. Good to see you. All right, Congressman Greg Stubbe of Florida. Check out the website, TonyPerkins.com. All right, don't go away. When we come back, the governor of Samaria joins me. Yossi Dagan, so don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. All right, let me encourage you, if you have not yet downloaded the Stand Firm app, get the Stand Firm app. That way you can have access to Washington Watch no matter where you go. You can have access to our news and commentary from a biblical perspective, the Washington Stand, and my daily devotional, Stand on the Word. All of that can be found on the Stand Firm app. Go to the App Store, download the Stand Firm app. Well, as the search for a solution to the conflict in the Middle East continues, dozens of members of Congress this morning heard firsthand about the significance of Judea and Samaria, or as the legacy media and the United Nations calls it, the West Bank. Well, members of Congress gathered to hear firsthand why America must support Israel's right to declare sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. And who better to make the case than the governor of Samaria? Joining me now in studio is Governor Yossi Dagan, who is the head of the Shamran Regional Council in Israel. Governor Dagan, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining me. Thank you very much. All right. Members of Congress this morning seem to understand the importance of Judea and Samaria, the biblical heartland.
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First of all, I must share with all friends that show us now our appreciation about what your personality, Tony, and your organization are doing. It's so important for the State of Israel, for all the people in the State of Israel, and especially for the pioneers who built the Bible and Judea and Samaria. And first of all, thank you very much. We are very appreciative. I cannot imagine the situation of states and... United States of America and State of Israel without this strong relationship and without you. So God bless you.
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Thank you, Governor. I appreciate that. The the reality is Judea and Samaria really the heart of not just geographically, it's the heart of Israel. But when we talk about what we read in our Bible, 80% of the events occurred in the area that you represent.
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You're right. Judea and Samaria, first of all, is historical justice because God bring us opportunity to build again the Bible and exactly like you intend by the prophecy. Jeremiah, Amos, Yechezkel, and we are doing this. So sovereignty to the Bible and is recognize God. It say to God, thank you very much. We appreciate what the gift that you are bring us. And two, Like you told, Judea and Samaria mountains are the security belt of the State of Israel. Because between the Mediterranean and Jordan River, we have 43 miles. Samaria mountains, my region, are 34 miles from them. So all the State of Israel, so-called the Green Line, without the mountains, big mountains of Judea and Samaria, is just nine miles.
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So what's important about this is that every time we hear this conversation about a two-state solution or proposal, every time there's peace talked about, well, we've got to give a Palestinian state, they're actually talking about cutting out the heart of Israel, Judea and Samaria, and turning that over to Palestinians.
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it's not the justice for God. Because God bring us exactly like the prophecy story. Right, it's happening. To build. Yes, and it's happening now. Why disturb this? And two, October 7th, It's a proof what is two-state solution. Because Gaza Strip, after we, we was stupid. And we evacuated and destroyed our communities and towns. In 2005. Yes. And Gaza Strip was a Palestinian state without IDF, without Jews. Judenrein, like in German. Judenrein, without Jews, just Muslims. their control, all the area. And one leader from the progressive told that after the evacuated of our communities, Gaza Strip will be the Singapore of the Middle East. So October 7, it's Singapore of the Middle East. What happened that we created a Palestinian state? Just imagine October 7th with control of Palestinian authority, same Palestinian authority, on the mountains of Samaria.
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So Gaza Strip, about a seven-mile strip, and that became a launching pad for October the 7th for the terrorist activity that has engulfed the Middle East for the last 18 months. That, if you take Judea and Samaria, it's 24 times larger than the Gaza Strip. And it's right in the heart of Israel, not the southern sliver on the coast. I mean, the country would be indefensible.
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You're right. And I must tell you... In October 7, the barbarians from Hamas, they were occupied 14 miles near Gaza Strip. And on the Green Line, under the mountains of Samaria, it's not like the situation in the south near Gaza Strip. Nine miles under these mountains, and the Palestinian authorities, they have a strong army, so-called police. Unfortunately, the generals from IDF army, from another... Another government of the United States, not Trump, of course. They help them and educate them how to be professional soldiers, professional combats. They have units. It's very strong, more from Gaza Strip. Just imagine the situation in October 7 with control of these barbarians on all the top of mountains.
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So what Israel is asking for, what you're asking for as governor of Samaria, Prime Minister Netanyahu's cabinet have asked for is the Knesset to declare sovereignty over that region. And so America, what you're looking to America for is to say, Israel, you have the right to declare that sovereignty.
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We've got about 30 seconds. Yes, you're right. First of all, it is responsible of the Israelis, our prime minister, our ministers. We need your help to educate people. to all the people in the world, and also the leaders here in the States, how it's necessary to Israel, and because of this, how it's necessary to the United States. Because we need help, because we are your envoy in the Islamic Middle East, and we need support in this issue, recognition for this issue. We can do this without, but with recognition for the United States, of course it's better. Governor, we've got to go.
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We're praying for the peace of Israel and working for it as well. Folks, stick with us. We're back after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. All right, our word for today, it comes from Luke chapter 24. Then he said to them, thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sin should be preached in his name to all nations beginning at Jerusalem. And you are witnesses of these things. This is the mission of the church, our mission. Just as Jesus declared, we are to proclaim repentance and the forgiveness of sins in his name, beginning in our communities and extending to the nations. But Jesus didn't just give us a mission. He gave us the means to fulfill it. The next verse says, Behold, I send you the promise of my Father upon you, but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with the power from on high. The promise is the Holy Spirit, God's empowering presence for every believer. We cannot fulfill this mission in our own strength. But when we are filled with the Spirit, we become bold witnesses, faithful messengers, and living evidence of the gospel's transforming power. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. Well, Capitol Hill might get a little quieter after tomorrow as the lower chamber is breaking early for the August recess due to the continuing clamor for access to the Jeffrey Epstein files from Republican Congressman Thomas Massey and a cadre of Democrats. But rest assured, there will still be news, even if Congress is at a standstill. Joining me now to discuss some of this news is Washington Stan's editorial director and senior writer, Suzanne Bowdy, as well as the managing editor for the broadcast, Casey Harper. Suzanne, Casey, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks, Tony. All right, Suzanne, let me start with you. New Hampshire's so-called Republican governor, Kelly Ayotte, who used to be in Congress, used to be a senator, recently showed her true colors regarding her trans extremism, which is really odd, given that this is a Democrat issue that they're drowning in politically, and here you have a Republican grabbing hold of it. Tell us what she did.
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It's inexplicable, really, because let me just set the scene for you in New Hampshire right now. They have a trifecta in the state house, in the state legislature and the governor's mansion. They actually won more seats for the Republican Party last election. And so what Kelly Ayotte's done is really shocking to me, especially because the Granite State voters are really behind this agenda to stop voting. uh, transing our kids essentially. And what was before her were a few really surprising bills. She signed 103 bills before the session ended, but she vetoed seven. And many of those were social conservative issues. For example, one of the bills that she vetoed would have kept biological men out of girls' spaces. We're talking about prisons. We're talking about locker rooms. We're talking about bathrooms. This is an issue that had 69% support, which frankly is low. I believe in a lot of States, some States it's upward of 70 and 80. is new hampshire but it is new hampshire right she vetoed that she also vetoed a forum for parents to be able to complain about sexually explicit materials in the kids classrooms so this would have created an avenue for each school to open investigations if parents had a legitimate complaint about something pornographic or you know lgbt etc she said no these are overly broad bills she also rejected a bill that would have let parents opt into a very controversial government survey. I'm sure you've talked about it on the show before, the Youth Risk Behavioral Survey, which asked very invasive questions, leading questions about kids and their behavior. She said, no, we don't want parents to opt in. We want to give as many answers as possible to this survey. It is baffling to me why when Republicans are truly dominating on this issue, I mean, Democrats are flailing, that she would lean into this. So why?
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Why is she doing it?
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I honestly don't know.
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Now, her record in Congress was not that good.
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Right. I will say, as a senator, she was not our friend on things like Women in the Draft, the Employment Nondiscrimination Act, which was very LGBT-forward. She really, except for on a few life issues, was not our friend. But I don't know why, particularly in New Hampshire, where this is like Congress for a governor. She runs every two years. And as we've learned from people like Terry McAuliffe, Parents do not take kindly to their, to their values and rights.
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Could this just be her ideological bent? I mean, maybe she's just, is she bought into this agenda?
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It could be. And it could be that voters are going to find that out and vote her out.
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What's interesting at the same time, the New York Times writing a piece recently about how the Democrats are, they're at a loss as to how to get out of this. This transgender agenda has them boxed in and they're underwater politically.
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Well, they've painted themselves into a corner. It's an 80-20 issue. Maybe in New Hampshire it's 69. And the reason they can't get out of it is they frame the entire argument in moral terms. So they've said those who oppose transgenderism are evil, they're hateful, they're not loving. And so they can't back down because they'll be hateful.
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So actually what that does then is it further enrages those who have concerns about this agenda because not only are they telling them, you know, you don't have a right to protect your kids, but you're a bigot because you want to protect your kids.
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But what's also crazy is at the same time that she's vetoing these bills, a Democratic governor in North Carolina, who is no social conservative, actually signed into law a Parents Protection Act. So now she looks even more radical than a Democratic governor in a purple state.
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Maybe he can read the polls a little better than she can.
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Right, right, absolutely.
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Not that that's how we should be making our decisions.
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No, but when the truth and the polls align, we should pay attention.
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Well, let's talk a little bit about how people are just kind of out of step with reality. We saw the CEO of NPR, Catherine Marr, who – this is comical. First, it was Big Bird that was going to be on the grill. Now it is – Now it's public safety as a result of the Congress cutting funds to public broadcasting.
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Yeah, the public safety argument is sort of they've lost every other argument, and so they're pulling this one out at the last minute. I mean, we've covered at the Washington stand at length the kind of ridiculous bias at PBS and NPR. It was just a propaganda shot. Even a former longtime editor at NPR, he surveyed the newsroom, and he found that there was 87 registered Democrats and zero Republicans. We're not even talking 80-20 split here. It's by and large entirely Democrat.
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That's probably typical of most newsrooms. Right, but they don't get federal money. I know, I know. So it's just like, why do we want to subsidize another leftist media outlet when we can do that for free? Well, public safety, Tony. Yeah, well, so let's talk about that public safety. We have a clip. Okay, we got a clip. Let's play that clip.
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Many of the stations receive up to 70% of their funding through federal dollars across the country, often tribal areas, rural areas, 50%. These are areas that are exposed to extreme weather patterns like tornadoes, for example, in Florida along the hurricane coast, often at risk. We have seen estimates that as many as 80 stations could go dark, and almost all of these are stations that exist in these areas that otherwise have limited resources and limited access.
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All right, 50 years ago, all right, maybe so. But in the age of cable, the age of satellite, the age of the internet, and this, by the way, was the rationale that Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins gave for voting against the rescissions bill in the Senate last week.
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Right, but there's two reasons this doesn't really hold up. The first is internet access is ubiquitous, regardless of even poverty level. I was at Starbucks this weekend. Well, we're underwriting it. The federal government is under it. I was at Starbucks this weekend, and I walked in. It didn't bother me, but there's two homeless people charging their smartphones and watching YouTube videos. And I just had this moment of, hey, there's no limit to access to smartphones and the internet. And then the second thing is we have AM radio. FM can go 20 to 40 miles, but AM... In some cases, you know, thousands of miles.
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Let's talk about that for just a moment. All right. Because there is a bill in Congress to deal with AM radios. That is not the point of our conversation here. But if Congress really was concerned about access in cases of emergency, the AM radio system has long been that vehicle by which when power goes out, you get the little transistor radio. I mean, I can tell you with hurricanes, we've used it a lot. the manufacturers of cars are taking the AM radios out. And so there is a save the AM radio bill in Congress, which we support, which would cost the federal government... Zero.
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Right. And it doesn't have the media bias baggage that NPR and PBS and all those others.
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People can just tune in to whatever station they want to listen to during a time of national emergency or local crisis. I mean, it's just this is where when you see stuff like this, like Catherine Marr, it's just it's a spin and it is not truthful in what we're we're hearing.
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Yeah, well, they always go to, every argument for them goes down to you hate people, you want to hurt them. The trans argument, you hate trans kids and you want them to die. If it goes down, you want to cut back on some of the things we've reported on, like drag queens reading children's books to kids on PBS or NPR segments about queer ducks. I know you can check that one out right after we get off the air, Tony. Yeah, I know. Yeah, there's a lot to learn there. Exactly. So, you know, they're pushing these things out. But then when it gets attacked, they say, oh, they have to find out human safety. If you want to trim, you know, one dollar out of Medicaid, you want to kill poor people. If you want to trim one dollar out of Medicare, it's always the same argument.
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But here's what happened, and members said this on the program, that in particular, the rescissions bill in the Senate over PEPFAR, which is something that I've Pretty passionate about because it's such a waste of money that even though they knew that trimming 400 million dollars out of 7.1 billion dollars was not going to affect the delivery of health and safety and life-saving Medicines they didn't want to face the political threats of Democrats. So is by fear That's why we have 37 trillion dollars in debt. They're afraid to take any a principled, truthful stand out of fear politics.
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Well, the two biggest tools are the enemy, fear and accusation. Yeah. And it's all accusation on this issue, and that's why it's so powerful.
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I want to go back. We're just about five minutes left. Suzanne, I want to go back to the issue that Kelly Ayotte was running from. Congress is actually dealing with some of these issues, trying to address. We talked earlier with Congressman Greg Stubbe to really allow those who have been taken advantage of, lied to over this gender craze to to sue. So there's a lot happening on that front. There seems to be like this. massive dose of common sense all of a sudden hit America.
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And we have to applaud Republicans, Donald Trump, Speaker Mike Johnson, for really putting a spotlight on these issues, because as you pointed out, the Stubbe bill, the one that you're referring to, the restoring biological truth in the workplace, it shouldn't be necessary. We have the Constitution. We have the First Amendment. We have the Civil Rights Act. But here they're taking an extra step to say, look, if you're in the workplace, people like Pastor Luke Ash, you shouldn't be punished for acknowledging that there are two genders and that's a biological reality and a moral and scriptural one as well.
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And not be forced to have to play along with this make-believe. And that's what they want. It's not that you just allow it to go on. They want you to participate in it. You have to be a part of their charade. And that is fundamentally wrong. And by the way, folks, let me, I know hundreds of you, I've already signed that petition. I'll put it back up there for you again. Text the word PASTOR Pastor to 67742. This is regarding Luke Ash, the East Baton Rouge Parish Library, back at my home city of Baton Rouge. Actually, I live in Pride, but I don't like to tell people I live in Pride because I feel like I have to repent. But it's a community north of Baton Rouge. But text the word pastor to 67742 and you can sign this petition that will be delivered to the executive director of the library. Pastor Luke was fired for refusing. He didn't he didn't say anything to to anyone. He just would not agree to use. biologically incorrect pronouns. And so he didn't line up with their DEI policy. And so he was fired. It is amazing how, again, text the word pastor to 67742, diversity, equity, and inclusion. Or else.
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Right. Yeah.
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It doesn't work for anyone who doesn't agree with him. There's no inclusion. There's no diversity. There's no equity for those who don't agree with him.
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And those who agree with them are the majority of the population. I mean, the people that are being retaliated against are the ones who share the majority view.
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The encouraging thing is that, you know, Four years ago, the trend was moving in the other direction. Very much so. But there were a few, you know, FRC taking policy positions. Then you had some courageous young women standing up that said, you know what, we're just not going to play along with this game. It took a little while. But all of a sudden, it was like, yeah, yeah, the emperor doesn't have any clothes. People began to admit that, you know, this is nonsense. It's insanity. We can't play along with it. But as I was even talking about yesterday on the program with Pastor Lewis, we've got to connect this back to where it all started. Redefinition of marriage, redefinition of human sexuality.
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And he took it back even farther.
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It does go back, and it goes back to, and that's why I did the covenant marriage law back when I was in the legislature. It does go back to how we treat the institution of marriage. Because once we departed from God's truth, this is where we end up.
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Yeah, when you untether from the truth, I mean, you can drift anywhere. Wherever the wind's going to take you, that's where you end up. So that's why I'm not really surprised when the next ridiculous thing comes out from someone on the left, because when you've untethered, you'll go anywhere.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it's just like President Obama began this, Biden continued it. You should be able to marry the one you love. And then you have people, you know, furries and all these other things. I mean, it's just, there's no end. There's no end to the nature of fallen man. And that's why we need a redeemer. And that's why Jesus came, so that we can be restored and sanctified into what God wanted us to be, to be free and to be able to have life and have it more abundantly. But you can't do it chasing a lie. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me. And we have an obligation as Christians to lovingly, but boldly and courageously proclaim that truth.
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And to stand with those who are. I mean, what's so encouraging about Luke's story is how many people have come around him and alongside him and said, we will fight with you. And I think that's something as Christians we need to continue to do is to bolster those who are taking stands that are affecting their lives and their livelihoods in this
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, courage breeds courage. And we just need more people that know the truth and are willing to stand for the truth. That's why when Joshua took over and the Lord said, be strong and courageous. And that wasn't courage and strength needed to face the enemy. It was to obey the word of God. And that's where we need our courage. Suzanne, Casey, thanks so much for joining me today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks, Tony.
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All right. And folks, I do want to encourage you to weigh in on this. As Suzanne said, coming around Pastor Luke, you too can support him. Text the word pastor to six, seven, seven, four, two. That's pastor to six, seven, seven, four, two. And sign that petition that's going to be delivered to the executive director of the library. And this is, as I said before, this is not just a local issue. others this has become a national issue others other government entities that have bought into this dei woke agenda will take note all right until next time i leave you with the words of the apostle paul when you've prayed prepared and taken your stand by all means keep standing
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. You may have heard it in my voice, but once again... Those judges are at it again. I feel like we are the Scooby-Doo gang and they are the monster or the person hiding behind the monster mask. Right, not an actual monster.
SPEAKER 03 :
We know that's a costume, Logan.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's 25 minutes of us trying to figure out and then having the same show once again, which is, oh, it was a rogue judge the whole time. And I would have gotten away with it. Yeah, it always feels like the same deal. This is the Scooby-Doo effect, as we call it here. And they call that in Washington, D.C. That's something we need to coin. The Scooby-Doo effect. Yeah, like SDE. What is that Scooby-Doo effect?
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, everybody knows that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Everyone knows that. It's the new FOIA, really. 1-800-684-3110. Have your voice heard on the air today. And Will, let's break this down because this has to do with the case involving the defunding of Planned Parenthood. As you know, they said, yes, you can defund Planned Parenthood. And they said, well, let's hold off and see. Now it is even more of a mess as it sounds like 25% of Planned Parenthood
SPEAKER 03 :
can still be funded cannot be funded cannot be fun can be funded it is convoluted you're right the first time here's what it's like the way they play the money game when it comes to life right so the the judge remember gave a two-week temporary restraining order blocking the implementing of the big beautiful big beautiful bill portion today that defunded planned parenthood They had a hearing on Friday, which was three days early because Planned Parenthood tried to get it moved back. But the government said, no, we can do it early. So the judge took that up. They had their hearing early on Friday. And yesterday was the judge's own deadline for ruling on a preliminary injunction.
SPEAKER 11 :
We talked about that. That being the deadline, that this is going to happen very fast. And look, CeCe Howell is going to be joining us, one of our senior attorneys here, to really break this down from a legal perspective in the next segment. But I wanted you to have an understanding. This is what we're talking about, what we had talked about last week, saying there was a specific deadline put in place by this judge.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. So the temporary restraining order would only last until midnight last night on the 21st of July. And then either the law would go into effect or she would have to rule on a preliminary injunction. Now, when our team came in this morning and I was trying to explain what the judge did, I led with this. And so I want to say it to everyone. This is going to hurt your brain, the logic and the hoops that the judge jumped through to try and... come up with some sort of protection for Planned Parenthood. And at the end, she granted a preliminary injunction for about 25% of Planned Parenthood affiliates. She did not rule on a preliminary injunction for the remainder of them. She said, I'll take it under advisement. Even though she had given herself a deadline, she didn't say, I don't grant a preliminary injunction in them, or I do. She just said, I'll take it under advisement, which essentially kicks the can down the road, but it allows for the defunding.
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of that 75% for now. Yeah, and let's, so you understand, the reason it's the 75% is she's saying roughly 25% of Planned Parenthood facilities do not provide abortions. Of course, we know a lot of state laws have changed. We know that a lot of state laws now no longer allow abortions. So, of course, what she's saying is you can't justify defunding those places that don't support abortion. Not support abortion is the wrong word. If you're Planned Parenthood, you support abortion. But if you don't provide abortion, Because Planned Parenthood is broken up into individual states, individual regions and districts. It's not just all one corporation. Now, there is the big corporation, and that is what's been defunded. 75% of it. Look, this fight is going to continue on. We're going to have to get some specificity on. They go, well, we got to get ourselves together here. Right, yeah. You know what you can get yourself together? You can support the work of the ACLJ. It's nine days left. Number nine. Nine days. Nine days. left in our 35 years of justice drive. All donations are doubled today. We're going to break it down a little bit more with CeCe Heil. She's a legal expert. She's going to be able to tell you exactly what this all means, what it looks like moving forward. And if she can't, well, I'm just going to tell you that she can. 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be heard on the air today. Again, phone lines are open. I'd love to hear from you. When you hear rogue judges once again, how does it make you feel? How does it feel? We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow Senior Council. CeCe Heil is joining us in studio to break this down. I think we got to restate it a little bit because a lot of you are just joining us. And it is, as Will said, it's a bit of a head scratcher. As another judge, the same judge said, hey, I'm going to give myself my own deadline. And the deadline passed and they said, okay. 25% of Planned Parenthood can remain funded. 75% can remain defunded temporarily for now, but I can look at it later on. I mean, am I missing anything here? I mean, that's pretty close. That's almost like I put it into AI and said, make this easy to understand.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you could have also broken AI with this case because CeCe, the judge went to great lengths to find a way to, to keep some money flowing to Planned Parenthood. And it goes into... I mean, when you read the factual statement basis of her order, it just goes into how wonderful and how necessary life-saving Planned Parenthood is and that by... picking and choosing, the government is putting millions of people's lives at risk. That's always the favorite angle of everyone is that if you cut money somewhere by default, someone's life is at risk. That's kind of the status quo for government funding at this point. But what this judge did was effectively grant the injunction. So allowing this subset of Planned Parenthood affiliates the ability to continue to receive government money while the vast majority at least for now because of her deadline the tro the temporary restraining order expired they won't be receiving medicaid reimbursement or federal dollars uh break down what the judge did here and and really kind of why it was so unusual for us to see this yeah
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and just like you said, as I was reading the opinion, it's about, I think, 30 pages long as I was reading the opinion. It definitely reads like an advertisement for Planned Parenthood. So, you know, exactly as you read this, where this judge's alliance and allegiance lies. Definitely. However, she gets very creative because, you know, in our amicus brief that we filed in this case, we absolutely argue the fact that, you know, the the. There's no constitutional right for subsidies, that Congress has the power of the purse, all of those arguments, which are the constitutional arguments that, yes, the federal government, when they're giving money, they can have strings to that. So she goes out and says, Okay, I'm going to go and go to the Freedom of Association. That's where I'm going to go because some of these Planned Parenthoods, and just to kind of put it into numbers, there's 47 members that the Planned Parenthood Federation has. So there's 47 members.
SPEAKER 11 :
The members are essentially districts or states.
SPEAKER 02 :
Usually a state.
SPEAKER 11 :
A state of Massachusetts or of Utah. We have of Tennessee and northern Mississippi. Yeah, they have them broken down. Right. So they're organizations probably so they can say, okay, this one needs more funding, less funding.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right.
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When they're big corporate.
SPEAKER 02 :
So the 47 members, there's about 600 clinics that these 47 members operate. And actually two of the members joined in this lawsuit. So the Planned Parenthood Massachusetts and Planned Parenthood Utah were also members that joined individually. Right. But she reaches to those members that actually didn't join individually, but she reaches to the other members and she basically says, look, if you're just associated, let's say you don't comply with you provide abortions and you get less than $800,000 worth of Medicaid reimbursements. your only kind of harm or crime is that you're associated. But because of that association, the way that the law is written, it lumps in affiliates. She's saying, well, that then violates your freedom of association for those 10 clinics out of the 47, the 10 members, not clinics, members, the 10 members that don't fall under that law. $800,000 and providing abortion limit. And so I think you've already addressed this. I mean, overall, it is probably about 75% of the Planned Parenthoods that are not getting their funding. So that is a very, very good thing. But it's an interesting opinion that she's carving out. The door stays a little open. Yes, abortion exception and the fact that she's taking it under advisement. So what that means to when an appeal can happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. One, it also seems like she set up a scenario where you could have both the defendants, which would be the government, and the plaintiffs, which would be Planned Parenthood, both appealing her preliminary injunction ruling at some point because the government's saying, you gave them too much. The Planned Parenthood's saying, you're not giving us enough. She may be trying to have threaded the needle for optics to some degree. But here's the other angle of it that has me scratching my head is that we got the case of Trump v. Casa where that was about the preliminary injunctions at the Supreme Court, these nationwide universal injunctions. And the Supreme Court basically said that you can issue an injunction, which is what we're dealing with here in this case, in a case before your court to people that are before your court in the proper jurisdiction. And what we're starting to see out of this is where she wanted to say Planned Parenthood isn't that closely interrelated when it comes to the funding issue. So for government purposes, you have to look at them as just a bunch of different organizations that hang out. But when it comes to the injunction purposes, they are so intertwined that I can give injunctive relief to these 10 members, only one of which was before the court. That would have been Utah. Massachusetts Planned Parenthood, who was in her state, did not get injunctive relief. Right. but others that weren't a party of it. So is it like she's trying to have it both ways, that Planned Parenthood isn't that closely related when it comes to funding, but when it comes to the purpose of this, I can give... close to extra special injunction relief to parties that aren't even a part of this lawsuit in practicality.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think we're seeing, again, abortion distortion, like you're saying. They're very tightly knit for one reason that supports her pro-abortion stance, and they're not so tightly knit for another reason that doesn't support her pro-abortion stance. We see that. And I think what you said about... You know, these injunctions and what the Supreme Court has said now judges are trying to get very creative of how they don't run afoul of that, how they're, you know, can possibly say I'm not giving a nationwide injunction, although she is giving an injunction again, like to individual parties that were not. Before her court. They were not parties to this case, but she's lumping them in because they are an affiliate or a member of Planned Parenthood Federation.
SPEAKER 03 :
And on top of that, it seems that she found that pathway and with the briefing, obviously, that Planned Parenthood Federation for America put forward of this First Amendment violation, the freedom of association. As a matter of fact, she even goes into detail and says that, you know, by defunding these individual communities, clinics it could harm Planned Parenthood Federation for America because that could discourage membership in their organization from states that don't allow abortion and therefore it impairs their ability to engage in advocacy so now we're tying federal dollars to advocacy organizations which just seems like a bizarre situation in and of itself but on top of that Planned Parenthood Federation for America is doesn't receive medicaid reimbursement it doesn't have uh clinics it is the umbrella organization so if we're starting to separate it out their only harm is that people may not want to pay them dues because they may lose federal subsidies right absolutely she has crafted and created this freedom of association harm and that's what she's relying on for the whole entire opinion
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I want to take this phone call. We've got a call specifically for CeCe Jerry in Rhode Island. While you're here, CeCe, I want to make sure you have time to take this call. Let's go ahead, Jerry.
SPEAKER 10 :
CeCe, my question is, I've heard your analysis on a lot of cases. Do you see the detached neutrality in this writing of this judge? And if not, is there oversight for those kind of judges?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, okay, Jerry, if you listened to me earlier, which you were, you know, the first thing when I read this opinion, it sounds like an ad for Planned Parenthood. So there's no guessing where this judge's allegiance in the alliance lies. She's not neutral. And yes, you know, I mean, if judges... are elected then you can get rid of them through that election process if they're appointed then you need to make sure that you're again voting for the people that are appointing judges it's kind of that kind of situation of that's the oversight uh definitely not neutral you can read the opinion she's very much pro-planned panhood what's the next step here okay because our team is obviously involved in massachusetts we're involved so much in the life campaigns right now we got about a minute but what are we going to do here Real quickly, we will watch this. If an appeal is filed, if the government files an appeal, we'll file an appeal supporting. And if the Planned Parenthood files an appeal, we can file a brief against.
SPEAKER 03 :
We may have two more briefs coming up just at this appeal stage of the injunction because now she set it up where we'll probably see one from the government and from Planned Parenthood. We will want to weigh in on behalf of the ACLJ members in both of those. Both of them.
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But you know what? If you look at those papers, they have a stone cold, and it was President Obama. It wasn't lots of people all over the place. It was them, too. But the leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? And except for the fact that he gets shielded by the press for his entire life, that's the one they... Look, he's guilty. It's not a question. You know, I like to say, let's give it time. It's there. He's guilty. This was treason. This was every word you can think of. They tried to steal the election. They tried to obfuscate the election. They did things that nobody's ever even imagined, even in other countries. You've seen some pretty rough countries. This man has seen some pretty rough countries, but you've never seen anything like it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, that's, again, a pretty big statement to make. He said, you know, all the words. Essentially, he is guilty. I mean, those are the words. Look, he's guilty. It's not a question. You know I like to say it. Let's give it time. It's there. He's guilty. This was treason. Those, again, very strong words from the President of the United States. I do think he got to tread lightly here, but it is what it is, especially when we're dealing with this. Not that I don't necessarily, I haven't looked at all the documents, I haven't gone through everything, but what I've seen so far, there's some rough stuff there, but there's also presidential immunity, which we know happened. He did say this was every word you can think of, and knowing President Trump, There's a lot of words. There's certain words. A lot of them we can't say on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Obfuscate is one of them. Obfuscate was one. He did say that one.
SPEAKER 11 :
I feel like that's the one. He's like, have you heard this word?
SPEAKER 03 :
Learn this word. It's a good word. Obfuscate. I can't say it. So here's the other angle to this as well as Senator Chuck Grassley from Iowa, who has been for a long time trying to get the public release of the classified annex to the Inspector General Horowitz report on Hillary Clinton, her email scandal. The inspector general looked at the way the FBI handled it, came to conclusions that James Comey did not handle it appropriately. But there was this classified annex that really gave the detail of how he came to those conclusions. And what is interesting about this is now, finally, this is public. There is redactions of sources and methods as is usual when you're dealing with work product from the FBI. But Chuck Grassley was able to put this out in public. And here's what he had to say about this, because remember, This entire treasonous conspiracy we're talking about, one of the big angles of it is Russiagate, the way that they weaponize and manufactured intelligence, as Tulsi Gabbard told us earlier this week, to try and hamstring and do this years-long coup, as she called it, against President Trump so that he could not fulfill his mandate from the American people. But a lot of this started with the white glove treatment that James Comey gave Hillary Clinton when investigating alleged crimes when it came to... White glove treatment. I like that. You know, it was like she had special treatment. I know what it is. I know what it is. I'm saying I liked it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I like that you're saying that, Leo, when you book a nice hotel.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. White glove treatment. So what they're concerned is that this started even before in the way they handled this server issue. Remember, the federal government was completely fine under the Biden administration going after and indicting President Trump, former President Trump, for having classified materials at Mar-a-Lago. which he had the power to declassify, but the Secretary of State that was mishandling classified information was told by James Comey, you're good to go, shouldn't have done it, whatever, nothing to see here. But here's what Chuck Grassley had to say after revealing this information. It was a complete cover-up. completely ignoring their responsibilities, another way of saving the politicization and weaponization of the FBI and the Department of Justice, turning a blind eye to key evidence while investigating Hillary Clinton's mishandling of classified information on this private email server. These findings prove that the Clinton investigation wasn't thorough and complete. In fact, you could say they didn't even start to look at it. That's what's in this classified annex. They had thumb drives. They had emails. They had all this stuff that they didn't even investigate. They had it, didn't look at it. So therefore, we're showing another angle of the weaponization and politicization by by James Comey that started even before they decided to conjure up this Russia hoax that they perpetrated on the American people after President Trump won because they thought they had it in the bag for Hillary Clinton by just ignoring her crimes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah I think that's true. Phone lines are open for you 1-800-684-3110. I also wanted to say Tulsi Gabbard again has been in the news this morning also because they have released now Hundreds of thousands of documents, 230,000 documents on the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. And again, his family said, please respect them, have empathy for them right now as you go through it. I haven't had time because this broke really this morning to go through any of it. But you know what? This is another one of those promises that was kept. They said they were going to have all the information happen with JFK. It's not always what you're looking for. It's not always the here's who did it or whatever it is. But I can see some of the information that comes in from this MLK assassination document dump that is fairly fascinating. And I'm sure it's going to be worth a read for a lot of you. Again, a lot of us were not born in that era when that happened. Our parents were. But here in Tennessee, you know, one of the places you go see is where that moment happened. Lorraine Motel. Yeah, at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis, Tennessee. And I took my son there just less than a year ago to see that spot, which you learn about in history class. So I think having more transparency on all of these things is going to be helpful and helpful for the country to heal as well. I want to know about what you think. And look, I know I see a lot of people watching. I know these are a heady topics and we do these heady topics. We don't get a lot of callers. We get a lot of viewers. There's no, a lot of you are just listening and you're wanting to hear, or you're wanting to watch and really take in what we're doing here. But phone lines are open for you. And I'd love to hopefully answer some of those questions at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. If you're in the chat right now on YouTube, by the way, I don't like to call out people. I'm not gonna call anyone by name. Uh, You can take your racism somewhere else. This is not what we're talking about here. If we bring up MLK assassination or President Obama and you immediately jump to some racial slurs, you are not welcome on this channel. So goodbye. And I'll make sure our moderators see that as well. Phone lines, though, are open for you. at 1-800-684-3110 as we hand as we head into the second half hour of this broadcast i want you to join us not only supporting us during the aclj a drive that's happening right now celebrating 35 years of justice i also want you to join us for the next half hour scan that qr code if you can make a donation it's doubled and some of you don't have the access to the second half hour through your local radio stations that's fine we are live right now That's 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time each and every day on ACLJ.org, on YouTube, on Rumble, and of course, later on Archive. Most of you watch this not live, but if you are live right now, we appreciate it. We'll be right back.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome to Sekulow. Phone lines are open. About three lines are open right now. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. If you see me do this, it's like when they're training the velociraptors. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I didn't see that one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hold. You didn't see that one. The Jurassic World.
SPEAKER 03 :
I didn't see that one. That's Chris Pratt. I'm just the original two. The goat. Yeah, but I like the original too. Jurassic Park. The Lost World. The Lost World.
SPEAKER 11 :
Which is what we call America right now. All right. Phone lines are open for you. That was a good joke. Lost World. 1-800-684-3110. You know any good quotes from The Lost World? No. No? I don't remember radio. Anybody in there?
SPEAKER 03 :
We're going to need a bigger boat, right? That's from The Lost World. That's not even in Jaws. I know. I was trying to get on your bad side today because you're already telling me to hold. Hold? That's Braveheart. Right. That's different. I don't know where we're at right now. I do. We're in the studio. We're talking about- No, I know where I am physically. We're talking about what happened in Massachusetts because this is- This is a hard pivot.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. We're talking now about the very easy topic that you want to talk about, Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood, of course, there was, in the big beautiful bill, there was the fact that Planned Parenthood got defunded. Now a judge, as you'd expect, another rogue judge comes out and says, you can't do that right now. Let's put a temporary restraining order on you. They say, okay, we're going to make a decision in the next couple weeks. Here's our deadline. They make that decision. That decision is 75% of Planned Parenthood gets defunded. For now, 25%, the ones that don't provide abortions, because again, Planned Parenthood is set up into different member states, you know, states and chapters and areas. So the ones that don't provide abortion, they can still receive funding. Those that do provide abortion, they can't for now, but maybe we'll take it in advisement. Of course, the ACLJ is on top of it when we have to be, because these kind of things get very nuanced. uh very headache driven as will said uh but there's a lot of people out there who are concerned about this we're also talking about that tranche of documents that came out from tulsi gabbard uh in director of national intelligence both the mlk documents that just dropped this morning that i'll be honest we've not had a chance to review yet but i i very much am appreciated that they said they were going to do it and once again they did it uh that is something that people have been asking for for a very long time uh and then of course the documents that came out and the look president trump again now using the word what was the specific phrase president trump says president obama treason look he's guilty it's not a question you know i i like to say give it time but he's guilty this was treason this was every word you can think of so again they're not really you know they're not really uh placing their bets in a place where they're not they're not making sure that you they politic around this right they are using guilty of treason and that comes with a litany of responses that have to come out when you start making these kind of claims of course they made these claims about president trump for you
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, and they took him to court and they tried to have him put in jail and they tried to come up with every single thing they could to stop him. And I don't know, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't want to live through this again. I mean, this is where I get people.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree, except I don't want to live through it again. And also, I don't know, based off of the immunity ruling, I think it'd be hard for you to argue to a court that President Obama calling a meeting, when you take it to the base level of what an official act is,
SPEAKER 11 :
even if the outcome that he doesn't have immunity for that i think also but these other individuals i mean we lived through it logan it was horrific what they did to our country but you know what happened then president trump won in a landslide because everyone saw it and said that's not what we do here in america my concern would be now you're just uh playing revenge and the same thing will happen once again now i've said this before We live in a pendulum. In our lifetime, we have seen Republicans and Democrats back and forth and back and forth. It's never. People like change. People like new. New is always better. Well, phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you. There's a lot of calls coming in. We got Jeff Balaban joining us the next time. Is that right? He's with ACLJ Jerusalem. There's some updates there, not specifically even on Israel, but of course, once again, that taxpayer funding was going to fund not just Israel, but specifically almost regime change in Israel. It's pretty interesting. We're going to break that all down with Jeff Balaban coming up. And remember, when you support the work of the ACLJ, you also support the ECLJ, the European Center for Law and Justice, ACLJ Jerusalem, and our international affiliates. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are lighting up right now. We only got one open, but you can give us a call still. We'd love to get you in the next half hour or the next segment. We're going to be taking a lot of your calls and comments to wrap up the show. We're going to be joined now by Jeff Balaban, head of ACLJ Jerusalem. This is pretty interesting. And the ACLJ was very involved. This is something you need to really look at the way your government runs. And that is through an investigation. The ACLJ, again, kind of led the charge in. I'll let Will go through some of the details here. We're able to uncover a lot of information that showed that not just that the Biden administration and the Obama administration was not necessarily the biggest friend of Israel. And again, remember, this is not during this current wartime. This is during relative peace. This is for the Biden administration. This is coming out of the Abraham Accords. I'd say probably one of the most peaceful times in the Middle East we've ever experienced. And they were actively working with up to the tune of a million dollars in taxpayer dollars. No, you left out a very key letter there. Billion dollars. You said million. I said billion. Okay, maybe our phone scratched. I thought when you said million, I actually thought- Not that much. Yeah, I mean, you can barely buy a house in Nashville for that. But a billion dollars that was going specifically to fund organizations who goal in Israel. Israel is very diverse politically. I think that there is sort of this overarching. It'd be like if you thought everyone in America was a Trump supporter. It's not how it is. Israel is very diverse in that sense in terms of conservatives and liberals. They were going to fund those specifically anti-Netanyahu organizations, organizations that were essentially going to try to either stop or have a regime change at the time, depending on when it was, wherever he landed. But people who are specifically against what would be considered the more conservative movement of Israel that is what they were using your tax money to do not support Israel like a lot of people claim but to actually be involved in in the politics so deeply.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well Logan I think this ties directly to what we were talking about with how the Obama administration weaponized intelligence manufactured intelligence to try and affect regime here in America with the first Trump administration. This is something, Jeff, we uncovered during the Obama years that the U.S. through the State Department was funding Mahmoud Abbas's son for the express purpose of trying to defeat Bibi Netanyahu. Now, tell us about how this started, because this is a report coming out of the Judiciary Committee and Jim Jordan showing that close to a billion dollars was from the State Department, from USAID, and from the Department of Defense was going to these groups in Israel that were trying to basically bring about regime change and get rid of Bibi Netanyahu in Israel during the last four years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. There were rumors floating around for a long time, based also on what had been happening during the Obama years, of money coming from Democrat groups and potentially even from the administration when the Democrats were in the White House, trying to undermine the elected government of Israel. Now, let's be clear. It's not the same system in Israel. In Israel, it's a parliamentary system where you have direct party elections. You elect a slate of people. Those slates of various parties form coalitions. Right now, the governing coalition is headed by the party with the most mandates, which is Likud, which is Netanyahu's party. And so it's the most important and biggest block in the coalition. But these coalitions are extremely narrow. So a party with even three or four votes mandates can collapse the entire government at any time. It's not like you wait four years for an election. So an entire coalition could collapse. And so it looked to us like they kept on finding issues to try and rile up the public to create that kind of hostility to topple the government. right before the war started, and one of the reasons the war started, according to Hamas, was they saw the Israeli populace was fractured and angry and fighting in the streets, not violently, but there's a lot of hostility over the issue of judicial reform. And it turns out, we looked into this, uh, The Israeli government keeps records, obviously in Hebrew, of foreign money coming in, and we started taking a look at it, and it looked suspicious to us that some of the money looked like it was being laundered through non-profits that were coming directly from the United States of America, from American tax dollars, from the Biden administration, going to groups which were then being funneled through to support these street protests being mobilized against Netanyahu. It's, by the way, a playbook that we see in America, which is why we need to look for it here. We brought this a couple of years ago already to Jim Jordan, who is the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, to his office and a couple of offices on Capitol Hill. And they started looking into it. And last week they published a report and they put out information, as you say, tracking about a billion dollars or so of money going from the United States government directly to organizations trying to rile up street support to essentially topple the Israeli government.
SPEAKER 03 :
Jeff, and when you put this into context, when you think about the 2024 election, in the 20-month campaign cycle, the Federal Election Commission put out presidential candidates raised about $1.6 billion and spent over $1.3 billion. Now, that's just the campaigns themselves, not including super PACs and things of that nature. But that's talking about the candidates in the United States for president. Now take almost that much, about 66% of that amount was then being funneled by our government into a country the size of New Jersey to try and influence their elections. It can't be understated how effective our government could have been by influencing an election with a billion dollars.
SPEAKER 05 :
Number one, number two, think about it. This is the same party that was riling America up over foreign interference in our elections, in America elections, at the same time as, according to this report, they're funneling an enormous amount of American tax dollars to try to destroy Israel's governing coalition. Israel's democracy. And so this is, I think, a bombshell. This is a scandal, a terrible scandal. And we're glad that the Judiciary Committee really dug into this, followed up, and is now making this public and looking for answers from the public.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Jeff, I think one, it goes to show that the complete disregard that both the Obama administration and the Biden administration actually have for elections when it doesn't help out their one party. But also when you think about this, I think we finally have found something that can bring us together with the BDSU movement because, you know, they want to boycott, divest and sanction Israel. I think we can defund this money. to stop influencing israel elections they should be happy with us defunding this kind of money going to israel right i mean you'd think that that would be something they'd be okay with of course not they want this they just want you ben and jerry's exactly
SPEAKER 05 :
It is no question that it's the same mentality, the same – that is trying to really change, really destroy the American concept of governance. It's really trying to do the same thing in Israel. Coming out of America, it is extraordinary the amount of money being spent on this tiny country. And it's also truly – terrible to see the amount of hostility they were able to generate in the streets here and the amount of turning brother against brother and how, again, those who committed the terrible atrocities on October 7th said they knew the time was right because they saw that Israel itself was becoming frayed at the seams and there was internal anger over this judicial reform issue. Well, it turns out, yeah, America was funding that out.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was funny. And Jeff, I think that is something. We've only got a couple of minutes here. I think that is something that doesn't get talked about at all in America. It's Israel. If you're on the left, Israel, bad. You know, the Palestinian people or you would say Hamas. Good. But they don't even understand. And maybe it should be another one of those, you know. proof that Israel is one of the free areas of the Middle East is that it is that fractured. The fact that you can have people who believe whatever they want to believe politically and can take to the streets and can be against a political regime, even Jewish people, even Israeli people, who have a problem with the Netanyahu administration. That exists, and it exists in a way that is not unlike America, where you're able to actually talk about this, where you know if this was in, I don't know, any of the surrounding countries, it could never happen. But here they paint Israel as just this sort of right-wing extremist.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, Israel's not behaving the way the left wants it to behave. The left wants Israel to essentially commit suicide and abandon its protection of itself. And Israel is somehow stubbornly refusing to just commit national suicide. And so they're trying from the outside to rev up the process. But yes, it is extraordinary. Israel continues to be amazingly resilient. And there were moments, beautiful moments, even during those fights, even during the anger in the streets of protesters going up one escalator and down another escalator on the train, meeting each other on both sides, carrying banners opposite sides, reaching out and hugging each other or shaking hands to show they're still brothers. And so there was some element to that. But yes, it caused tremendous strife. in Israel. I believe they're still funding certain protests right now over other issues in Israel, these groups. And it's very, very important that the American government is looking into it, that the Congress is looking into it. And I am very happy that we were able to bring it to their attention.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. That's why we have an ACLJ Jerusalem, even our ACLJTC office can work in tandem to make sure this kind of thing happens. Jeff, thank you so much for joining us. We head into this last segment of the day I want to hear from you we got two lines open at 1-800-684-3110 it can be on any of the topics we talked about today or if you have a question or comment that is at least within scope you can call in I know a lot of you are watching right now thousands of you that watch live and of course the hundreds of thousands of you plus that watch later on or listen later on if you are brand new and you're watching right now however you're watching because I know about half the people that watch the show each and every day have never seen my face before never seen Will's pretty face before I'm going to ask you to hit that subscribe button That's a great free way to help support the work of the ACLJ and help get this information into more hands. That being said, we always want to remain that this show and all of our work is without a paywall and it's always free for you to share. We can't do that without you. So that's why we have this right now. ACLJ matching 35 years of justice drive. Be a part of it today. Take your calls and comments coming right up. Welcome back to Seculo. We're about to take your calls and comments right now. So give us a call. Two lines open. 1-800-684-3110. We saw a lot of people because I said our pretty faces, our beautiful faces, Will. And we just nicknamed you. You're Big Beautiful Will. That's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Big Beautiful Bill. That'd be my father. Yeah. That's my father's name. It's not my name. Don't call me that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm Big Beautiful Will. Would you buy Big Beautiful Will merchandise? Let me know. I can throw together some shirts. Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Is it going to be as great as the Rapture Prepper? I don't know.
SPEAKER 11 :
I got an email from those people who printed those.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
You had more orders than any first day. It dropped off pretty significantly after that first day. But that first day, we sold a lot. I got a tote bag, by the way, if anyone's looking for one. Yeah, I think you were half the orders, though, because you bought one of everything. I wanted the whole set. Right. And now I look at it and go, well, it's a beautiful design. All right. It's really good. Yeah, big, beautiful design. Let's go and take a phone call. Let's go to John in Illinois, who's calling on line one. John, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, you guys, I'm really getting tired of the revenge thing. These guys did something wrong. Let's go after them. Not because of revenge, because they did something wrong. I think the country's ready for this.
SPEAKER 11 :
John, I appreciate your call. I want to reiterate what I was saying. What I was saying is because of the immunity case. that it's going to become a little bit harder to actually make this happen and of course do you want this then to happen to your president uh moving forward because this is going to continue on in a vicious cycle unfortunately it's where we are i understand you want justice everyone wants justice uh and i don't believe it's specifically out for revenge but you got to make sure you play these cards right and john i appreciate your calling i think you were on a motorcycle in illinois which is pretty cool you know that's you know they won't get a lot of callers on it could be batman batman called into the show yeah you know like last thing in illinois chicago that's the you know dark knight series yeah exactly the nolan verse yeah my gotham city is new york yeah my gotham city's gotham city oh okay fair i'm bigger fan of bloodhaven let's go ahead and continue on let's go to candy who's calling uh from georgia on youtube candy you're on the air
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I like motorcycles too. Anyway, I have a question. Can the rogue judges actually stop what was passed by Congress since defunding Planned Parenthood? The abortion is a legislative law.
SPEAKER 11 :
Candy, what a question to ask. Because what we've learned is, I don't know, everything seems to be written with these ridiculous loopholes. Right. where it doesn't matter the intent of the Supreme Court, doesn't matter the intent of the President of the United States, these judges, they Jurassic Park it, Will. They find a way.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And Candy, what is going on here is that that's why they're using the First Amendment claim, violating the freedom of association for the Planned Parenthood affiliates, because Congress can't pass a law that violates the Constitution. So they had to go to something like the First Amendment and try to create this right to funding claim by default through the first amendment association when it does seem ridiculous right but they that's how you can overturn laws that are passed because you can pass a law in congress and get signed by the president but if it violates the constitution it can't stay on the books and that's where you get challenges in court so um you Yeah, it seems bizarre. Congress has the power of the purse. They decide to not fund someone. That isn't some constitutional right to continue funds flowing to an individual organization. But we're in a bizarre place. They found a weird loophole. About 25%, 20 to 25% can continue to get it, at least under this preliminary injunction. But we'll see where it goes. But we know at the ACLJ, we will be filing more briefs very quickly because we're not going to stop on this.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right, thanks for calling, Candy. Let's move on to Debra, who is watching on the Salem News Channel. Debra, you're on the air. Hi. Hello. hello go ahead we are here okay i'm just wondering when these people are going to start being publicly prosecuted for what they've done to our country yeah it's a process deborah let's just go through it because right now so uh dni gabbert releases these documents then those documents go to the department of justice with a recommendation recommendation for some sort of
SPEAKER 03 :
uh criminal prosecution so yes there was a criminal referral from the agency the director of national intelligence's office the odni to the doj they now have the evidence that was turned over and referral of a crime then it has to go through the normal process they have to do an investigation look at the evidence decide if they want to take individuals before a grand jury Then the grand jury has to return the indictment, a true bill, that these people are indicted. And then you move forward with the prosecution, with the case.
SPEAKER 11 :
So the answer is, Deborah, you'd be lucky to get it through in this Trump administration.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can indict quickly if they have the evidence. But I mean, a trial could last a very long time.
SPEAKER 11 :
Could last years. And of course, it's the American way. You got to stretch things out. You got to stretch things out.
SPEAKER 03 :
You have the right to a speedy trial unless you're the deep state, then never happens.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and then they can somehow say 25% gets defunded or gets funded. 75%, we'll see. Maybe I'll think about it. Maybe I'll spend some time. Let me mull it over a little bit. Get that, Will? Mm-hmm. Let's go to Susan who's calling in Maryland. on Line 5. You're on the air watching on YouTube, which means so many thousands of you join us. 508,000 508,000 subscribers on YouTube. But understand, that's only about half the people that watch the show. Millions watch the show each and every week just through YouTube alone. It's really remarkable. We are living in a different world. You know, there's been that whole debate over Stephen Colbert and the cancellation and what happened, what didn't happen. What didn't also happen is the fact that millions of you watch us. More people watch us then watch a lot of these shows on YouTube. It's a changing world. Embrace it or die. Let's go to Susan. Marilyn, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, support ACLJ. If Trump could prove treason, would a president accused of treason be treated differently as a vacating president or
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Susan, we at least know how President Trump was treated, but very different if he was still the sitting president.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, and because the actions that they're saying are treasonous or treasonous conspiracy happened during his time as president, that is very similar, at least if you want to look at an analogy or a parallel. The government went after President Trump for things they alleged he did while in office. And what did the Supreme Court come back with is that There is broad immunity for presidents, things that could be considered official acts by the president while they are in office. That's why making phone calls that the Democrats like to harp on to state officials. Because that's what it was, and that is a normal thing that a president would do. Call state officials, look into the integrity of the election. Normal thing. That is considered an official act. That is why the same thing that I think they would have a hard time bringing charges against President Obama are because... He was calling a meeting of principals. That is something that presidents do. Now, the people underlying that took orders and went and did things may be a lot easier to go after. But I think in this, the naming of President Obama gets the headlines. I personally, my analysis is just my two cents. It is very hard for them to go after President Obama for this because he was the president. While he was president, he did this. And I think they would argue these were official acts.
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. Hey, that's going to do it for today's show. We appreciate everyone joining us. Will gave some great analysis. Big, beautiful Will. You did a great job.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm going to wear that shirt tomorrow. Tomorrow?
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Join Scott Watley and Kevin Flesch for a special on-location episode of Sportsman of Colorado recorded live at the Wild Alaskan Lodge in Pelican, Alaska. This unforgettable self-guided fishing adventure features stories of monster halibut, stunning Alaskan scenery, and a tight-knit lodge community that treats every guest like family. Hear interviews with lodge owners Jason and Melanie, lodge staff (including the legendary “Mad Dog”), and guests from across the country as they recount their experiences with whales, harpoons, and home-cooked ribs. Whether you're a hardcore angler or just dreaming of your bucket-list trip, this episode will make you want to pack your gear and head north.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome to Sportsman Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. Glad to have my good buddy Kevin Flesch with us. Kevin, how are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
I am great, Scott. Still a glow from our trip to Alaska.
SPEAKER 06 :
Bud, my hands are still in splints from having to reel so much, man. I'll tell you, you about turned me into half a fisherman, man. I don't know why. I know it. I mean, a quarter of a fisherman. Man, I'm telling you what, we had such a great time at the Wild Alaskan Lodge in Pelican, Alaska, and kevin i know it's the first few minutes here with you so i'm gonna let you take a couple of minutes here and kind of give your thoughts and we're going to go to some interviews that we did there live at the wild alaskan lodge last week so a little of your perspective of our trip yeah i thought it was a fantastic trip and i think um being away you know getting back and getting back to work and doing the things we need to do you start thinking about a trip like that and
SPEAKER 09 :
And it was really a fun experience to go. There's something about guiding yourself and being able to have the freedom to do what you want. And the fact that we got to fish basically 12 hours a day for five days in a row. I mean, a lot of fishing. But I think with regard to your experience, you haven't done a whole lot of fishing. And you know what? You really progressed in the different types of fishing that we did. while we were there. Um, and, and there was a real sort of, you clicked on some of the things, you know, when you were doing the sharp shooting over the schools of fish and you drop down and, you know, just getting the feel of, oh my gosh, am I getting bottom or does a fish have my lure? You know, and we did a lot of that. Um, and that was so much fun. Um, I think the, the fact that they give you the opportunity, they give you, um, some idea of where the fish may be. And then they sort of turn you loose and you're just out in the ocean. I had a buddy of mine, I was telling him about it and he's like, wait a second, they give you a boat and they let you just go out into the open ocean. And it's like, well, yeah, when you say it that way, that's what they do. I mean, when we were fishing for halibut and 250 feet of water, we were, I mean, we could see land, but it was a ways away. A long way. And so the experience that we had and all the wildlife and everything else that we had the ability to encounter was really incredible.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And so glad Janet, your wife, got to go. A good buddy of ours, David Fields, got to go. And we're going to be getting, as soon as schedules allow, I'll get Janet in here and David and kind of go through the whole thing. But basically, it is a self-guided trip, which you don't hear a lot about that in Alaska due to what Kevin just said. I mean, hey, there's a lot going on in Alaska. We're not going to Cherry Creek Reservoir or something, you know. But I'm telling you, great food. um we'll go through all the lodging things that they offer there because there's a lot to explain there in detail and we just don't have time to do that today but it's the wild alaskan lodge and it is um a beautiful beautiful spot uh there in pelican alaska you can catch a catamaran boat out of juno and uh or a float plane ride and get you over there and then it is great days of fishing and uh You can see Alaska your way. And that's the main thing we want to put it out there for you this week. So when we come back, we're going to hit some interviews that we did there. And then, again, we'll keep you abreast here on social media. We'll be airing our big interview with all of us that went and get into more of the details about just a. absolute great time at the Wild Alaskan Lodge. So, Kevin, I think your big question is to us most of the time, Scott, do you have a fish? I don't know. Are you on the bottom? I don't know. Because it did take a while, but then after a while, man, you get to getting it, you know?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, you got it figured out. You got it figured out really well. And that's part of it, too, is that there were just so many fish. I mean, I think about... we had a little bit of a struggle the first couple of days, but that second day when we got onto a group of fish and we were just all three of us on the back of the boat, just one right after the other giggling, like little, little elementary school kids with bluegills or something like that. And we were catching some nice fish. So it was, you know, it was a really fun trip. And the other thing that's really nice about the lodge is reasonably priced because you don't have a guide. And so, you know, they pass that, that onto you in the way of pricing. And so spectacular. You're able to take probably your family in this situation if you have the skills to guide yourself. Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
30 seconds on your king salmon.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So, okay. 30 seconds. So I bought a week king stamp, not the annual king stamp.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I bought the annual.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a story for another day. But we were doing that same thing. We weren't trolling for them. We'd get over a school of fish that we thought were salmon. And we would basically drop down with these laser lures. They're basically a piece of metal with a hook on it. Kind of looks like a dying herring or something else. And the fish would just come up and grab them. It was crazy. So I had this king hit the spoon and took off. And basically, I had to go around the boat. And finally got the king to the net. Janet netted it, did a great job. We had a good netting class before she netted that fish and ended up being one of the bigger, if not the biggest king for the week. I think it was 21 pounds, 37, 36, 37 inches. Just a beautiful fish and a heck of a fight. And because they are dynamic when they get up in the top of the water column. that 10 feet, they just take off and they take line and there's nothing you can do. You just have to wait for them to wear themselves out. But pretty fun. It was quite the fire drill for about five or ten minutes and got it to the net and got it in the boat. So spectacular fish. And you can look on Facebook. We definitely had some pictures of that fish up on the website.
SPEAKER 06 :
For sure. All right. Hey, don't go anywhere. Got some great interviews coming up from the Wild Alaskan Lodge just this last week. Kevin Flesch, myself, his wife Janet, David Fields will join us on a future interview. So it's the Wild Alaskan Lodge coming up next.
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You're listening to KLZ 560, your home station.
SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. We are at the world headquarters of the Wild Alaskan Lodge. And Kevin Flesch joins me. And we are actually recording here at the lodge. We are on day three of our trip. You've heard us talk about this for a number of months now. And first of all, Kevin. It's the middle of the week. We're just getting our groove on. We still have days to fish. It is cool. Getting things figured out.
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We have to remind everybody it's self-guided.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is self-guided, and we're going to talk about that a lot. And Jason and Melanie are going to start us off here, and then we're going to get some other guests on. And then you're going to be hearing a lot about this trip over the next several weeks and really throughout. the next 12 months. All right. We, this is a, a very unusual place in a lot of ways. Um, what Kevin just said, you know, a lot of, uh, folks go to the expos, Kevin, different shows. And to be honest, I've never seen a self-guided one at an expo. Okay. So it was very unique. Uh, when we saw Melanie and Jason, uh, the first time a year ago, um, You know, and then got to plan this and be here. So give a proper welcome, Jason. Good to see you. Yeah. Good to see you guys. Melanie, it's hard to believe we're here doing this interview.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know. I've been waiting forever.
SPEAKER 06 :
18 months. 18 months. We were talking about it.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's been a long time.
SPEAKER 06 :
You guys were on the road a lot and all the show season and different things. And then. And, Jase, I know you've talked about it with us, but for our audience, Melanie's kind of been on the show more than you, so she's hogged the microphone a little more. But tell us how this all came about, man, and your dream of having this.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we'd been fishing this area for the last 18, 20 years and had a few friends and buddies. Like, you know, you really should, as much as you know about the area... And how to fish for the certain species of fish kind of helped push me to start looking for a place. And we found this piece of property in Pelican in 23 and started construction. And here we are today.
SPEAKER 06 :
Man, it's unbelievable. And Kevin, you know, we've... Man, pulling up. First of all, we'll kind of walk through the options that you can do. Catamaran ride, about a four-hour trip from Juneau. You fly into Juneau from Seattle, probably for most people. And then the catamaran ride is really cool, kind of a double-decker catamaran ride. Options of flying are there as well. But I'm telling you, one thing I noticed, Kevin, it kind of gave everybody a chance to get to know each other a little bit on that trip. So when we got here, we were already friends, it seemed like.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you acclimate to sort of the surroundings. You get to see some whales. You get to get a sense of what the area is like. It's really a nice way, really, rather than doing a float plane, it's nice to be able to get a sense of where you're going to be at, especially because of, the fact that you're going to be guiding yourself and you're going to be driving around in the boat. So you get a sense of the different arms and and what's going on with the big bay and everything else. And then so it's one of those unique situations that you get to sort of immerse yourself right away. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
And Melanie, I know I've seen Jason in there cooking too, but I'm telling you. Oh, ribs tonight. I'm going to start there. Ribs are so good. We've had pizza, which is cool. Hey, who doesn't like pizza? We came in the first night. Hey, we had some great pizza. Homemade. That was awesome. Homemade pizza. And then, man, we've had like a glazed salmon. Yeah. We've had steak. We've had baked potatoes. We've had ribs. I mean. Yes. So that's part of your deal, right? Yeah. The food is amazing. Got to be good at places, right?
SPEAKER 17 :
It does. It needs to be good. It needs to be warm because when you've been fishing all day, you're coming out. You know, Alaska, 90% chance rain means it's going to rain no matter what, whether it's just a haze or whatever. And so you've been fishing all day. You probably have eaten your lunch by 9 a.m. like we do. And you get in here.
SPEAKER 16 :
That has happened every day.
SPEAKER 17 :
Every day. You want to get in here, take a shower, and then just have a hot meal. And so we strive to do the best we can in that area.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And Jason, the limits change. There's a lot of advantages that I've seen for the first time for self-guided. OK, what I what I've Kevin and I, you know, we've been on several trips together and Kevin's done a lot more fishing than me in his lifetime. But, you know, sometimes we've been on deals and like we caught our halibut. You're one for the day that you can keep. It's got to be in a certain size slot, different things like that. And then you've got six other people or four other people on a boat, and maybe it's three more hours we've got to hang out, and we really can't do anything. So there's some big advantages to this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, absolutely. Here at the Wild Alaskan Lodge, being self-guided, you're allowed to keep two halibut any size per day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Had a 124-pound halibut caught today. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we're going to interview him. Beauty hanging up on the scales out there. 124 pounds and several smaller halibut came in today. So everybody gets on fish. You know, the first day you're kind of experimenting, driving around. And that's all part of the Wild Alaskan Adventures is operating the boat in different areas and looking at the graph and your sonar and trying to identify spots that fish are going to be in. And it's neat to see people go out and find these spots and catch their halibut, salmon, rockfish, fish. Lincod, unfortunately, Lincod's closed right now, but everybody's been catching a bunch of them.
SPEAKER 06 :
I was going to ask you, is that just in this zone, so to speak, or is it in Alaska as a whole?
SPEAKER 03 :
So in southeast Alaska, there are certain zones, and they have it shut off right now in our particular area for Lincod. Right, and of course—
SPEAKER 09 :
And it's every year that they change that, so you never know. Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we encourage people to go to the Alaska Fish and Game website, and on there is Alaska's fish emergency orders. So that was changed constantly. For example, King Salmon has been open... They reduced the limit this year, but it's going to be closed on July 7th by emergency order. So we just encourage everybody to look at those. We also update everybody with the emergency order so they know the regulations are abiding by them.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you know what? We've caught some lingcod, and they're super cool to catch. They're really fun to catch. Yeah. They're cool fish. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
I love the fight of those.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. I know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Just aggressive and battling it. So last year they did the orders on the lean cod. Prior to that, it's been a while. So it was open.
SPEAKER 09 :
until june 15th and then it closed and they'll open back up august 16th are they going is there this their spawn is this the time that they spawn is that one of the reasons that they oh just a lot of people fishing right now so got it so they just close it for that reason yes okay
SPEAKER 06 :
If you're just joining us, we are coming to you live from the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Kevin Flesch and myself and Kevin's wife Janet came on the trip. A good buddy of mine you've heard from before that's been on several trips with us, David Fields from Orlando. We're going to get David on. He only got to stay a couple of days. He's a Delta pilot and had to get back to work. But David said, man, it was worth it. He flew from Orlando now to Seattle.
SPEAKER 03 :
did you know and doing all that back and it was worth it to him for a couple of days yeah he flew several thousand miles to get out here i had a chance to really visit with him last night and then he just he's blown away and you know we always talk about pictures and videos don't do this place and he just no he's still you're 100 right until you're here and then it's just like the majestic beauty just taking it in. And I mean, we're, we're ocean side. Uh, so everybody has a perfect view of the ocean and the mountains across the inlet. Yeah. So it's just a neat experience to have people actually here after they've seen photos and like, oh, this truly is a lot better than that. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's tough to describe. And I know you guys got a lot to do, so I told you five minutes. We've already been talking eight, but give me a couple more minutes here. That's okay. Yeah. Here's one thing that's cool, too. You got a group of nine.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
people all right so the wild alaskan lodge can fit your needs yeah okay yeah and so what's kind of your your um i mean couples can come i mean buddies can come whatever great family setting i mean everything they can do but i'm telling you what it's great for a group of people if they wanted to come
SPEAKER 03 :
absolutely so we have uh six boats and on the boats is anywhere from two to four people okay so maximum capacity would be 24 right 24. the boats are awesome yeah they're really nice kevin again you're a big fishing guy so talk about it but i think the boats were i mean you're in the ocean so that first of all you've got to make sure that you're in boats that you feel comfortable in and that you feel safe in and these boats have been just spectacular
SPEAKER 09 :
Nice enclosed cabs, so when the weather is bad, you have a place to get to. You know, all of the new electronics, Garmin, great stuff. And then Suzuki motors. I can't believe how quiet those motors are. And you run them all day. I mean, you're on them all day long. And they've just been great. And that's part of the experience. You guys have the boats too. all set up, ready to go in the morning for what we need. You don't have to go through all of that change out. And it really is a vacation that all you have to do is go try to find fish. We're working that out.
SPEAKER 06 :
And just even a special touch. Now, we're here over July 4th, and Melanie came out with some really cool, what do you call those things? Lanterns. Lanterns.
SPEAKER 17 :
We're going to do some lanterns.
SPEAKER 09 :
Luminaries. They're luminaries.
SPEAKER 17 :
Luminaries. So we did some little artwork on them. And then tonight when it gets dark enough, we'll let them go. And then we'll watch some fireworks from the water if you want to. We'll just jump on some boats and go. We can see it from here, but I want to have a better view for our guests. And just making people feel welcome and seen and invited and want their experience to be the best that it can be. And it's not just for... But it's men and women. It's a family. Then we have you guys. We have lots of couples that come. We have friends, buddies. But it's not just for men. Our facility, our lodge is, I feel... too par for a a female that feels like you know because I know a lot of women always want their husbands to go first to kind of get the feel of what it's like is it clean is it not and you know each room has its own private bathroom so who you book with is who you'll boat with and then you also share the room with them if you have more than four then we're just going to start Moving you over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And doing it that way. So this week we actually had 16 and then your friend David left yesterday morning. So we got 15 this week, which we're super excited about and thankful for. But, yeah, I just think it's it's really important to make it personable. And even this thing is so little. of doing the lanterns, but it's just something to symbolize and for our guests to be engaged in and for them to do stuff while they're here. Because yeah, it's either fishing, people are like, oh, is there just fishing? Well, my wife might not like just fishing the whole time. But there's other things that you could do, sightseeing, go down and check out the bears on the banks and the wildlife is amazing. And we just try to be able to provide you with the best that we have and to make your trip most successful.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, once again, we're coming to you live from the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Today is actually July 3rd, as Kevin Flesch and I are recording this for our show. Look, if you're interested in coming to Alaska, and this has been on your bucket list, Don't do just the traditional thing, all right, and book with an outfitter and all that kind of stuff. You want to see Alaska your way. That's kind of what I've been telling people, Kevin, you know. Hey, it's your Alaskan adventure. How about seeing it your way? Because sometimes we've all been on, quote, guided things, and it's like, man, this isn't really what I want to do right now. Right. You know what? That's exactly right. You're in control here, you know, to a degree. Yeah. Yeah. And so it is awesome. So, again, I know you guys are busy and everything, but we're going to be doing a lot of these throughout the next 12 months. And we're going to be talking with a lot more of your guests that are here this week. But, man, thanks for hosting us, you guys. I knew it was going to be awesome. Mel and I, we first met there and you guys at the Denver IOC. And I'm like, man, these are good people. You know, you just get a good feeling. And so, hey, they are our only self-guided podcast. Alaskan fishing company you'll ever hear on Sportsman of Colorado. So if you're looking for it, check out wildalaskanlodge.com. We'll share a lot of information on our Facebook, how you can get in touch with Melanie and Jason if you want a book. When you do, be sure you mention Sportsman of Colorado. If you've got questions, of course, most of you that listen have my cell, 720-201-8585, or email me, scott, at sportsmanofcolorado.com. And we'll get you all the information you need. And if you want more references, hey, we got them here. We got some great people here. They're from North Dakota, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
You got North Dakota, you have Idaho, and then we have our Coloradoans.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. We got the West covered here.
SPEAKER 17 :
So just a quick question. What do you think Janet feels about it?
SPEAKER 09 :
She's been having a great time. She's not a huge fisher woman. But she has fished most of the days that we've been out here. And the boats are a big deal. Really nice facilities for that. She feels comfortable in them. When we had some weather, nice to be underneath. And she's been driving the boat some when we've been trolling. Just been a really good experience for her. And then I think the lodge is just spectacular for her as well. I mean, I think the accommodations are great. And you guys are very accommodating for everything that she would need or anyone else, really.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Especially, I mean, a great example is the luggage. Her luggage didn't make it from Denver. Yeah, that started it off. You guys were able to get it here. I mean, Delta helped with that, got it to Pelican on a flight. you know and then you were able to get it over here so on the second day we had luggage so that was a big deal I mean we've had other trips where she's not had her luggage as well and it's taken days and so that was a really quick turnaround but overall I think her experience has been wonderful and I think that's one of the things a testament to you guys relating to the importance that you see in having couples and other folks that maybe aren't wouldn't necessarily go on a self-guided fishing adventure without the spouse or someone they know that that can can handle the rest of it
SPEAKER 17 :
And laundry.
SPEAKER 09 :
And laundry. Laundry.
SPEAKER 06 :
Kevin goes, I brought the bag back today real quick. Yeah, this morning. I'm like, we just put it on last night. Kevin goes, I thought they were going to wash it. I go, they did. He goes, already? So it worked out good. And that is one thing. You know what? I'm the worst at this because I've been going to Africa, different things. You know, man, I tell you, I'm like, I want to make sure I got plenty of clothes. And I'm telling you, pack. We're going to go through this. I'm not going to take the time now because I know you guys got a lot to do. But we're going to help you. Where you're not dragging a bunch of stuff you don't need and tell you what you do need. And we'll break all that down here in future shows and maybe a little bit later today when Kevin and I finish the show. But I'm telling you, they do a great job on the website telling you what you need. They didn't forget anything. All right? So do what they tell you to do on the form. And it'll be good. But if you've got questions, talk to Jason, Melanie. If you think you have some special requests, whatever. Just all these trips to being successful to me are about communication. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, hey, I've seen people leave plays. They go, oh, they didn't have this. Did you talk to them? Did you tell them that on forums that you wanted, you know? dr pepper or whatever yeah and so uh so it is all about communication but it's a wild alaskan lodge.com and once again you come into juneau and a couple of ways to get here of course for our catamaran ride which is really cool i mean we've flown in a lot of places and uh hey that's fine you know a little quicker and all that but you know what it kind of gets you in the mood kevin flying here with everybody. And then, like I say, just meeting everybody, going from one deck to the other, getting to know people, playing cards, whatever.
SPEAKER 01 :
Seeing a bunch of whales.
SPEAKER 06 :
Seeing a bunch of whales. And it will get you in the mood for the Wild Alaskan Lodge. So, once again, check them out. Follow our Facebook page and the show, of course. We're going to be doing a lot of interviews with them throughout the year with customers so you can hear and clients. And if you've got any questions, get a hold of us, and we'll get you a personal introduction to Jason and Melanie. So, guys, thanks for hosting us. We've still got two more days to have fun.
SPEAKER 17 :
Ripping those lips.
SPEAKER 06 :
There you go. We are thrilled to be here, so thanks very much. Yes, thank you. Thank you. You're listening to Sports from Colorado. We've got to take a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, my name is Scott Watley, along with Kevin Flesch. If you're just joining us, we are actually recording this live at the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Kevin and I have been here for several days with his wife, Janet, a good buddy of mine, David Fields from Orlando, and just having a great time fishing. It's not just about the owners, which you just heard about. It's a lot about the staff, too, that can make a trip, you know, good or bad. And you know what? This one's good. Mad Dog. Now, we meet a very nice young girl. All right? All right, lady. All right? There you go. And she said, just call me Mad Dog. Kevin, you can't go wrong with a nickname like that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe we should give our listeners a little bit of background for you and how you've come to be known as Mad Dog.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't know. When I was little, I had one of my dad's friends that was just, it was like one of his best friends growing up. And he just started calling me Mad Dog and it just stuck. And then when I got here, they, before I came, we had like a group text and they were like, oh, if you have any nicknames or anything, give it to us. And I was like, I'll just go by Mad Dog. That was like the first thing that came to my mind.
SPEAKER 09 :
So it's easy. You're here for the summer?
SPEAKER 13 :
I leave August 11th. So in about a month.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. And so when did you start?
SPEAKER 13 :
I started, I came here April 7th. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what drew you to the experience of being in this environment and being on staff?
SPEAKER 13 :
I actually came here because my dad has known Jason. since grade school, since they were really, really little.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
So that's what brought me here. And I was just like, at the time it was perfect because I was working as a housekeeper. Like I would go to people's houses and clean their houses for them. So I was like, oh, it's perfect for me to come down here because it's pretty much like the same thing. Going into people's rooms, making sure their beds are made, their laundry's done, their bathroom's clean and everything like that. So I was like, oh, it's perfect. And I needed to, you know, make money to start my life to go get an apartment and everything like that. So I was like, oh, it's perfect. And I've never been like outside. I've never been to Alaska before.
SPEAKER 09 :
That was my next question. You've never been here before?
SPEAKER 13 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
What was the most surprising thing that, you know, beginning in April until now, what's been the most surprising thing that you have experienced?
SPEAKER 13 :
I think it's made me a lot more grateful for the things that I had at home. You know what I mean? Because being down here, you... Because this is rustic living.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let's just put it that way.
SPEAKER 13 :
You never know if you're going to... Our water is based off of rainwater. So you never know if it stops raining for a while, you're out of water. And you never think about that. When I'm back home, I'm like, oh, I have water every day. Oh, I have this every day. no like here you get what you get and like if you don't then you don't yeah so it makes you grateful for what you have that's for sure
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And kind of talk about your duties because I've seen you do a million things in just a few days we've been here. So what are your kind of your duties, so to speak?
SPEAKER 13 :
So like in the morning, I make everyone sandwiches, make sure their lunches are ready for them. After everyone leaves, I go into their rooms, make sure it's swept, make sure their laundry is done. If they have towels, their beds are made, everything's clean. And then I clean the main lodge and I do laundry all day. I usually make sure dishes are done, everything like that. I can't really think of anything else that really... It's just a lot of laundry, honestly, because you have to wait for it to be done, and then you've got to switch it, and then you've got to do it again. But, I mean, this is the biggest group we've had, and I've gotten into a routine, so it's a lot easier, that's for sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And you get to... You have to... adapt to a lot of personalities oh yeah especially you take this group that we've got here super nice people and all so i mean they're easy to work with and do but you still got a lot of different personalities is that something you've always been able to do oh yeah because you've done a great job i just want to tell you i can definitely get vibes from people and know how to match that pretty well honestly i mean if there's like younger people i can do that easier like
SPEAKER 13 :
Older people, I can do that. It's all pretty easy for me.
SPEAKER 06 :
So what would you tell our listeners, Sportsman of Colorado Radio, why they should come to the Wild Alaskan Lodge?
SPEAKER 13 :
I think it's very homey here. You're taken care of very well. We make sure that you have everything that you need and catch a lot of big fish. That's for sure. I haven't even seen this big a fish before ever in my life. And this is the biggest fish I've ever seen. And I'm like, this is crazy. But it's like family, honestly, here. I've made family with Mel and Jason and all the staff here. It's just like a big group. You can trust everyone and ask them for anything that you need. So it's really nice.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you've done an excellent job.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it has been – we've still got two more days. Don't give her too much praise.
SPEAKER 09 :
We've still got two days yet.
SPEAKER 06 :
We've still got two more days for you. And you're making great sandwiches, by the way. Thank you. Our lunches have been great. Thank you. Hey, when you come to the Wild Alaskan Lodge, you not only get Melanie and Jason, which we just talked about, but you get to meet Mad Dog. All right. And a very nice young lady and has just done a terrific, terrific job. So, Mad Dog, thanks for being with us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, we're going to talk to a gentleman here now that joined the 100-pound club.
SPEAKER 09 :
100-pound club today.
SPEAKER 06 :
For Halibut. All right, and we're switching around some microphones. And once again, if you're just joining us, Kevin Flesch and I, we are recording this live July 3rd at the Wild Alaskan Lodge. We came in on Monday. Today is Thursday. And food for Juno. Yeah. So I came in from Juneau and did the catamaran ride and all, and it's just been a great few days of fishing and making new friends and everything. So I failed. Normally I know my guests' names, but tell us your name, where you're from, and kind of what brought you here to the Wild Alaskan Lodge.
SPEAKER 14 :
I said, I'm Seth Olson. I'm from North Dakota, and my dad just planned this whole trip and brought me along, too. Nice.
SPEAKER 06 :
Have you ever been to Alaska before?
SPEAKER 14 :
I've been to Alaska. This will be my third time in Alaska fishing. I've been to Seward the first time, Homer, and then here. Okay, cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you do a lot of fishing at home, then, too?
SPEAKER 14 :
It depends on the year. We used to have a good lake right by us that had a lot of walleye, but it winter killed bad, so... Not so much lately, but we get out a few times.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, good. Yeah, your group seems to have a sense of what to do up here. So you've got some good captains and a bunch of people that seem to know how to fish in each one of the boats. And, of course, you're leading that pack right now, right? What happened today?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, tell us about it. Honestly, we started off, you guys were with us pretty slow where we're at this morning. Then we ran over to take a peek at the glacier and just hit a spot that got pointed out on the way back. And we almost bailed right away because we weren't drifting the way we wanted to. We got in pretty shallow. It was only 160 feet. I don't know. We caught one decent-sized halibut. Threw on that big salmon head. We did. Thing just smoked me and... It wasn't messing around. It was on pretty much instantly, and I knew it was big. I didn't think it was quite that big. And then how did you guys get in the boat and how did all that work out? I got it up, and we've been dying to use that harpoon the whole time.
SPEAKER 09 :
We have to describe the harpoon because it is a true harpoon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's a freaking spear, man.
SPEAKER 09 :
With the end that disconnects, right? You stab it through, and then you have a cord that you cleat off, hopefully.
SPEAKER 14 :
stick it through and then hopefully it sticks into the animal and and you get it on board after it did it go nuts after you heard so luckily we did remember to put it to that cleave because he stuck that thing and it dove right down oh it did and my heart kind of sank for a second i'm like oh i hope that got yeah good harpoon on that thing yeah it fought hard for a couple minutes after that we got it up and i Just went off with that club. So stunned it a bit. He was dead when he got in the boat. He didn't budge after that. I wasn't taking any chances. Wow. I gave him a pretty good beating.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a big animal to have in the boat, too, if he was still kicking around. Because even those small ones, they can take out a leg.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I didn't want it flopping around. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Did you grab the red hook and bring it in that way, or how did you get it in the boat?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, we got that red hook in its mouth, and me and my dad both got on that thing and hauled it over the side. Nice.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, man, congratulations. That was huge. 125 or 124?
SPEAKER 1 :
124.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, 125. Hey, we're going to go with under 20. Yeah, it was absolutely huge. Wayne, congrats. And your dad kind of brought you this. I want to ask you what brought you here with different things. But, I mean, just your thoughts about the Wild Alaskan Lodge. What would you tell our audience about?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's my favorite place that we've been, I think. I said it was a little intimidating the first day, kind of running your own boat and everything. Yeah, self-guided, yeah. But after that, I'd say it's definitely my favorite place I've been.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, cool.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, man, thanks for taking a few minutes. Congratulations, and hopefully we beat you tomorrow. We beat your record tomorrow. Okay? No, I'm kidding. We just want to harpoon something. Yeah, that's what I told you today. I said, I'm going to harpoon something before I leave here. Yeah, for sure. Well, thanks, man. Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. See you.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right, now we've got a lady here. I like to say normally. I know my guests. But we've met and said each other's names, but we've met a lot of people. So tell us your name, first of all.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm Ashley Flynn.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ashley Flynn. And where are you from?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm from North Dakota.
SPEAKER 06 :
North Dakota. Yep. Okay, good. All right. Now, you seem like an outdoor kind of gal. I mean, do you like the outdoors?
SPEAKER 11 :
I enjoy being outside, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I can tell that about you and your friend. Yeah, for sure. So how did you guys find out about the Wild Alaskan Lodge and what brought you here and made you comfortable as a wife to come?
SPEAKER 11 :
So Melanie and Jason met Seth's dad, Scott, pheasant hunting. Oh, okay. And they had mentioned it to us that they had a, fishing lodge up here. And we've been talking about going fishing in Alaska for three, four years now. And all the cards just fell into place that we were able to come up this summer. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Have you fished Alaska before?
SPEAKER 11 :
I've never fished Alaska before.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what was your first impression of sort of the first day out?
SPEAKER 11 :
This is absolutely breathtaking.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it is. Everywhere you turn, there's a view. Everywhere.
SPEAKER 11 :
Everywhere. And first thing coming out of the inlet here out of Pelican was whales pretty much meeting you at the gate and seeing all the bald eagles. All the wildlife has just been...
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Amazing. Sea otters. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're so cool when you go by and they're just laying on their back, their head up and their feet up. Yeah. It is so cool. So what would you say? And really one reason I want to get you on, you know, there are some women that don't like any part of this to travel with husbands or boyfriends or whatever, you know, to some remote area like this. So, and we, this is unrehearsed, unscripted. So beyond what would, what would you say to our audience about for women and saying, Hey, you know what? You should come. It's cool.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would have to say that if your significant other, husband, boyfriend, whatever they may be, asks you to go, just go.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because you really never know if you will ever be able to experience this again. And that's one thing my husband and I, we've done. That, yes, he takes his guys trips and I take trips with my mom and stuff and whenever we have a chance, we'll go together so we can experience it. And we have two little girls that love to experience that stuff with us also. So getting to come out here, the two of us is great. And the next time, if we're able to bring our children. We'd love it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Cause you think about it. I mean, if he would have come here, let's say you would have come here, how in the world you go back and explain all this, you know? Yeah. You can't, it's impossible. It is.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you have to see it to believe it. Like pictures don't do this any justice.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Right. Today it was incredible the way when that sun came out and the clouds and the mountains, you get to see all the whole mountain and
SPEAKER 11 :
And seeing the mountains above the clouds.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yeah. Kevin pointed out a few goes, look at that. That mountain is above the clouds. And it was so beautiful. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Yeah. And even, even the first day when we had all the fog, the fog was interesting too, because you know, we're first here, you really don't know where you're going and you got to get out somewhere you think to fish. And that's part of the adventure too, is you're like, Oh my gosh, we're doing this on our own. Absolutely. You know, someone that has been here the whole season kind of knows what's going on. And so I think that's part of the adventure for those of us that have maybe been on a bunch of guided trips. But this is your first time. But it seems like your group has a good sense of sort of what to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you got some outdoor folks on your boats.
SPEAKER 11 :
We do. We enjoy fishing up in North Dakota. We go out to Lake Sakakawea and enjoy doing that as a family. And so getting to see the guys...
SPEAKER 06 :
Kind of blossom in their elements of trying to find the fish.
SPEAKER 11 :
And it's been really cool to watch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it really has. I'm trying to think. So let's just make this a little roundtable discussion. But when you come here, they've got a nice little dining area. And, again, all this is new. They just started a couple of years ago. So all this is brand new. But they've got a nice, quaint little kitchen. They do the cooking in for you. They've got a nice dining place to eat a couple of large tables. Uh, like I say about 24 is their max. They can take as far as guests. And, uh, you know, uh, there's four in our group. I think there was a group of others, three other guys and nine with this other group, uh, that you're with. And, uh,
SPEAKER 09 :
And then it's all family style.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you get to sit together as a group. Yeah, sit together. And, you know, everybody hangs out and talks a little bit, gets to know each other. And then the lodging, again, I want you to talk about that because that's a little different than most places you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're in with some other folks, okay? It's kind of your boatmates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, I want you to talk about that because I do want, you know, husbands, boyfriends to hear it. I want the ladies to hear, you know, what it's like and from your perspective.
SPEAKER 11 :
So the lodging is they have three separate buildings up two flights of stairs and it's three rooms per building with four beds in each room. And each room has its own bathroom with toilet, shower, sink. The beds are twin extra long beds. So they're very comfortable and nice, clean.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Yeah. And so, and you know, just the way the schedule works, and I'm telling you, if you're like what pretty much the program is, you're on the boats at 530 in the morning, you come back at 530 at night, that gives them time to fish and make sure dinner's hot and ready for everybody to eat together and different things like that. And so I will tell you, you are flat whipped by the end of the day. I mean, you're exhausted. And you know what? Hey, there's different times, different people go in and shower, do whatever. But – and again, Kevin and I, of course, Jay's wife, Janet, we're super good friends and all that kind of stuff. But it is something that is doable. It's something that, you know – but we do – we like to be very transparent here on Sportsman of Colorado of what to expect because I don't want anybody to come here and think, well, what do you mean I got to –
SPEAKER 09 :
you know room with these other people and again if it's you mainly your group and um and everything that would be in that room that's the best way to say yeah it is the best way okay so you have a group of three group of four or a couple you're going to have a room to your to your with the folks that you're in the boat with basically during the day yeah and and if you're comfortable with that then it's a spectacular spot yeah to come to and And the facilities will be very, very, you'll appreciate them at the end of the day, especially when you've been in the rain all day or you've been bouncing around like you guys did two days ago or yesterday, I guess, in the pretty significant weather.
SPEAKER 06 :
The seas were a little rough out there. But today was great. Gorgeous.
SPEAKER 09 :
Today was like a chamber of commerce day.
SPEAKER 06 :
No rain. Pelicans.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So cool.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's been beautiful.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the fishing was good today.
SPEAKER 11 :
Fishing was very good, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Well, cool. Well, thanks so much. We've still got another couple of days to hang out with you guys. And, again, this is something that's just something you've got to see to believe. But, again, if you want some of the phone numbers to people we talk to, because I know what most of you are probably thinking, well, hey, you're going to say good things about them because they're advertising with you. That's not true. I'm telling you what, that this place was not good. I would tell the folks here, you know what? I can't recommend you. I'm just being honest with you. Okay. And so it is absolutely a blast. You just got to know self-guided means you're in charge.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. And again, we want to be clear about the lodging, the way it is, but super comfortable, super good food. Now, would you agree with that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh my goodness. Delicious. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, so that's just a little bit of our taste from our trip with the Wild Alaskan Lodge out of Pelican, Alaska. Now, if you weren't able to catch a lot of the interview, let me just give you and review some high points that Kevin and I want to make sure you understand. And once again, next week or so, we'll get Kevin in, his wife Janet. And a buddy of mine, David Fields, that went with us to kind of give their whole perspective on the trip as well. But this is self-guided, which means they take great care of you. They pick you up, and you've got the cash. catamaran option as we mentioned that's about a four hour boat ride from juneau to pelican or you can do the float plane and which is about a 35 40 minute flight you do have to be careful and we we kind of got caught on this on the way back with the weather you never know if those float planes are going to get socked in so the catamaran was a really cool deal just to really see alaska your way which is really what this is all about when you're guided You're on the schedules of the lodge and the guides and all that they've got going on. So it really does let you see Alaska your way. But you travel in Juneau, just some quick traveling tips. Leave Denver, head to Seattle, get to Juneau from Seattle, and then catch that catamaran. Spend the night in Juneau, I should say. Let me stop there. Spend the night in Juneau. The next morning, you meet them on the dock there. And for the catamaran ride or the airplane flight to the lodge and get there that night, they get you all settled in your room. And whoever is on your boat, and Kevin and I mentioned this at the beginning, whoever's on your boat is in your room. Now, if you've got six people, they will overflow a couple of those folks over to another room and they may be rooming with someone else. But this is a fishing type lodge setup. You do have a private bath. But they take care of all your food, your lunches. And we chose to fish from 5.30 in the morning until 5.30 at night every day we were there. You've got to be back at 5.30. That way they can clean your fish for you, get it all frozen, and everybody have a nice sit-down dinner together and reminisce about your day. But highly recommend the Wild Alaskan Lodge. A lot of limits change. You can catch more halibut. And it is just a blast and absolutely a very, very beautiful place. So check them out. It's the wildalaskanlodge.com. And when you call Melanie or Jason, let them know you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado. I'm sure they'll be in town here first of the year for some of our shows again, and we'd be glad to personally introduce you. But more coming up over the next couple of weeks here about our trip. Just want to let everybody know it was a great time, and I hope you'll check it out, the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Thanks for being with us today for Sportsman of Colorado. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend, and we'll talk to you next week.
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