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Join us as we celebrate Don Henley's birthday and reflect on the long-lasting legacy of the Eagles, a band that continues to captivate audiences with their timeless hits. As we delve into the significance of the Sphere and its unique sensory experiences, we explore the pros and cons of such overwhelming venues and how they affect concertgoers and movie enthusiasts alike. In this episode, we also dive into a discussion about Brad Pitt's latest movie venture into the high-paced world of Formula One, examining what makes it a must-see on the big screen.
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Life in the talk show fast lane. It's the Eminem experience. Howdy Mike. So that's some Eagles, Life in the Fast Lane, Hotel California, an album that will turn 50 next year. The great Don Henley on the vocal up front, Don Henley of the Eagles, is 78 today. Lots of Dallas connections for Henley, so happy birthday to him.
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Very cool, very cool.
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Did you see Eagles at the Sphere? I did, no.
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Yeah, I saw them at the Sphere, and I also saw them at that... Remember that 70s reunion thing they had at Met Stadium?
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I'm still conflicted about the Sphere. Everybody tells me I've got to go to Vegas, got to see some act, some musical act at the Sphere. And I hold it at arm's length because I think it would just be sensory overload. It's a lot. I mean, it's essentially, can you even see the band when you're surrounded by 360 degrees of massive graphics? I mean, I bet it's awesome in a lot of ways. Yeah. I don't know.
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I don't know. Yeah, it's fun. It's an unusual experience. I mean, it's a lot to see. It's a lot to take in.
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And maybe this is a me thing, and I don't know if it's part of growing up. I don't know if I need all that sensory overload. I don't know if I can do IMAX movies anymore. Have you seen or heard of Brad Pitt in the F1 movie? Have you heard about this? Nope. No, no thing about it. Wow. Showbiz Mike, most talked about movie of the year, short of Mission Impossible. The F1 movie? Formula One racing. He's a racer, supposedly a little bit past his prime. Has he got one more victory in him? And the direction of it, and they put you in the car, which is lovely for five minutes. Is the movie any good is my question. It apparently is. And everybody says, oh, you've got to go see it in IMAX. You've got to go see it in IMAX. I think my brain would explode. So give me the thing with the recliner and bring me some food and I'm happy. Or better yet, come to my house.
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We talk about movies and stuff in the culture that interests us. I swear when I saw Trump's tweet yesterday about Brian Kohlberger, I thought, this man is my spirit animal. I'm telling you. You told me about this the other day.
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You told me about the true crime doc about this the other day.
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He's as into this as I am because I think the whole world wants to know, why did this smart guy do what he did? Why?
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Because you know, this is also like Chinese to me as well. I mean, I paid attention to the news.
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The Idaho murders.
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Yes. So tell everybody what that was.
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Four college kids in the middle of the night, brutally, brutally slaughtered in Idaho on a college campus, off-campus housing, a little typical off-campus kind of townhouses. And it was a big mystery. They got this guy based on the DNA that he left behind. And he was a crime aficionado. He was a...
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You know, like a forensic criminal forensic to be some kind of criminologist.
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Yeah. I mean, he was he wanted to. And he apparently just randomly picked these kids. And in the middle of the night, went in and one by one, there were two of them that slept through the whole thing. There were six college kids in the house. And look, they were all drunk. So that was part of it. I mean, that doesn't help. And they didn't even call 911 until noon the next day almost. But there's President Trump saying, all right, this guy got a plea deal. He avoids the death penalty. He pled guilty. He admits he did it. But Trump is saying, as part of the negotiation, if he's going to get off the hook, you've got to at least explain why you did it. I mean, which I think is true. He's right.
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Okay, but why does Trump give this five seconds of his time?
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Because he's a renaissance man.
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He's got time for a lot of things. His multitasking is like nothing. He has more screens and more windows open than any... I'm telling you, he's my spirit animal.
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Like him, I love my Diet Cokes. Like him, I've never missed a Big Mac that I didn't love. And like him, I'm into true crime, and I want to know why Brian Koberger did it. Do you ever stop, Mark, and think about what this one individual named Donald J. Trump... goes through on an hourly basis, just over and over and over again, the judiciary coming at him, the media, Colbert last night telling him to go blank himself and all that nonsense. I mean, but every day, Iran, there's a headline I talked about yesterday, Iran is absolutely hell-bent on assassinating him. Sure. They're not going to stop. They want to kill him. They tried to kill him in Butler, Pennsylvania. Could a mere mortal survive everything that Donald Trump has been put through?
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And do it not just with this kind of resiliency, but this kind of energy. It's like he turns it into a locomotive. Fuel. It's like he thrives on it. It's like, oh yeah, you bring it, I'm going to make you like the things I do. And he's
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He seems to enjoy it. He sure does. He seems to like it. I mean, I'd be in the fetal position under the bed for the rest of my life to be put through what he's been put through, and it never stops. They never let up. I mean, it's like every day. Well, he wears it like a badge of honor. He sure does. And he should. He has what we call the right enemies. Absolutely. And you can be judged by that. I was listening to a fascinating chat. Prior to listening to you this morning, Chris Stegall interviewed Julie Kelly. And Chris said what you and I talked about yesterday, I do too, and you and I talked about, and my theory is, they're going to go, you know what, to the wall on this whole Obama, you know, Hillary, Russia gate thing. They're going to go, you know what, to the wall because of the Epstein thing. The way that was kind of fumbled by Pam Bondi, she ain't going to fumble this. They're not going to find... This has already been referred to her for criminal prosecution. I think there's going to be some people that are going to be facing some arrests. We're going to see. Because think about this. And Chris made a point that was so profound. They used an arcane... statute from the Civil War era to try to nail people on January 6th. And the exact specific one, it's escaping me right now, but essentially if they could use some arcane law from the Civil War to prosecute January Sixers who were walking through the Capitol Surely they can do this over the coup that they attempted against Donald Trump. This ongoing treasonous conspiracy to handcuff and hamper and damage and sabotage his first term. And by the way, we never even talk about this. Maybe 2020. Because when you've got Russia hanging over your head, when you've got the idea of a fake, phony, collusion, steel dossier bunch of creeps, Crap hanging over your head. Maybe that cost you some votes in 2022. Could very well have. So this is all coming. How about Hunter Biden yesterday, Mark? Holy moly.
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I may surprise you on this.
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Oh, I know what you're going to say. You're going to pull a Greg Gutfeld. Oh, he's real. He's honest. He's genuine. He's authentic. Yeah, you go ahead with that.
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Go with that, Skippy. I think I'll phrase it a little differently. So for those that don't know, Hunter Biden sat down with some guys, a Pennsylvania, Philadelphia based podcast. They're sitting outside under a tree and Hunter just goes absolutely profanely. Just just goes post that crap. Yep. Just F bombs every three seconds. Now, if some of his gripes are they came after his dad and he's angry that they came after his dad. He's angry at George Clooney. He's angry at the party, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so, yes. And of course, Hunter is full of it and he's a lunatic. And he also said, basically, F you, America, if you don't like illegal immigration, who do you think cleans your hotel rooms? Who's going to clean your toilet? Just absolutely. He's wrong about everything, just like his dad. But the point that I did make, and then I did find out that Gutfeld had said the same thing, was that as I watched that, I said, wow, this guy is crazy. But there is something he brings to the table that AOC never will. Schumer never will. Gavin Newsom never will. It's a kind of an odd guttural authenticity. He seems sincere. He means what he says.
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Oh, he's sincere.
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And I'm not saying that to try to elevate him to credibility.
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Well, but you are. But you are. Because they're already calling for that. They're already saying Hunter 2028. And what do we think of that? Well, don't help it. Which means you think I have a point. I don't know if you have a point or not. Yeah, he's an authentic crackhead. Then you shouldn't worry, should you? And by the way, that's not a pejorative. He literally, in that same interview, made a convincing case for why crack cocaine isn't so bad. I'm not kidding you. He sat there and said it's cleaner than other types of cocaine. I mean, oh, yeah, that's a presidential fodder, all right. But you know what? But in the world of Zoran Mamdani and Omar Fatah, this isn't beyond the pale.
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This is what I mean. Is there any candidate that will make Democrats go, oh, no, that's just too much?
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No, no, there's not. And see, this is what I mean about the course correction. They are trying to course correct what they think is the craziness of the Trump era. They think that it's so crazy on the right. Well, let's just go crazy on the left. Let's get a self-professed Marxist to be the leading candidate for mayor in a big city. And let's put Hunter Biden up there because you know what? People like Mark Davis and Greg Gutfeld claim he's authentic. Yeah, he's authentic. Hemorrhoids are authentic. Yes, they are. Give me a break. Authenticity. I mean, what a lunatic. You know what? And what's infuriating about Hunter Biden, the bottom line is he's only not in prison because his daddy wrote him a pardon. Well, or the auto pen did. That's the one that he did. Yeah, that's the one he did. He carried out a $20 million shakedown of shady foreign interests with the consent and participation of daddy. He paid no taxes on it. He had the fake painting that this guy is scum of the earth. And that's the only... Yeah. He's authentic. Oh, he's real. He's real. I like his authenticity, says Mark Davis.
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Keeping it effing real.
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Hunter 2028. Keeping crack clean again. Making crack great again. Oh, my Lord in heaven. I'm telling you what. I'm loading up one bus. I can make it to the border by midnight. I'm out of here. We need you. Stay where you are. I'm gone. I'm gone. Hey, by the way, how about the Trump threatening to hold back the stadium deal for your beloved Washington Redskins? Love it. Love it.
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I grew up eating Burgundy and gold. I came to Texas. I got better. John Riggins was not a Redskin. Sonny Jurgens, excuse me, was not a commander. Art Monk was not a commander. This and Cleveland Indians need to be brought back. Little things mean a lot. Absolutely. Do you follow John Rocker on social media? I don't, but I know his history is kind of a free spirit. He got himself in trouble for some things.
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He's authentic. He's authentic. So John Rocker, he gets really edgy on social media. But here's what he wrote. Here's what he wrote. Former pitcher for the Atlanta Braves. Very, very politically incorrect. Far right guy. Here's what he writes. Have you ever met an Indian actually offended by a professional sports team named after an Indian? No. Hint. He says hint. It's not the Indians. It's liberal white people. Of course. The same people who want to pay out reparations. Of course. The same people with Ukraine flags hanging next to their front doors. The same people who drink soy milk and take Ozempic. The same people who pray for George Floyd every night. The same people who watch Jimmy Kimmel and I'd add Stephen Colbert. These are those who don't know a thing about baseball or football.
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Indian communities, actual Native American communities. It was an actual Native American, proud Native American, who crafted and drew that proud Redskin Indian hand logo. It is a purging of the... And here's what's weird. Redskins and Indians had to go, but Seminoles, Chiefs, Braves are still there. Yeah, why is that? Why is that? Because those franchises have a spine and respect their history.
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Those franchises told the white liberals to go pound salt. They sure did, and good for them for doing it. Absolutely. All right, we're fired up. Happy Tuesday. Here we go.
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Mike is ready for his Tuesday program soon as we are done. 10 o'clock right here on 660 AM.
Join John Rush for a riveting conversation that probes the darker recesses of the human psyche. With special guest Dr. John Brady, this episode navigates the complexities of understanding organized sexual offenders, with a particular focus on Jeffrey Epstein's notorious history. Discover how Epstein's methods and mindset were shaped by underlying narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies, the societal structures that enabled his offenses for decades, and the challenges posed in attempting to rehabilitate such individuals. This episode is not only an education in forensic psychology but also a call to recognize and challenge the power dynamics at play in high-profile cases.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush, presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
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And we are back on number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And as I said in last hour, Dr. John Brady joining us now. Dr. Brady, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, I'm great, and I really appreciate the opportunity to be on your station, and hopefully we can go over some of the psychological stuff concerning the Epstein case.
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Absolutely. You're a forensic psychologist. Twenty-five years you've spent doing what you do, and you have interviewed all sorts of people, written multiple books along these lines. Before I go any further, you can pre-order a new book. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, which is called Breakdown, which is a psychological comparison of Lee Harvey Oswald's background to Sirhan Sirhan. And what I found is that there's more similarities than dissimilarities. So that book is... published by Trine Day, and that will come out in October. It should be a pretty revealing book concerning the mental status of these two 24-year-olds that were accused of killing the Kennedy brothers.
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Okay, perfect. Well, we look forward to that. Talk to us about Epstein. As you know, big in the news right now, the files and so on, but I'm more concerned like you. I want to know more of what makes individuals like him do what they do.
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Okay, I've dealt with a lot of sexual offenders. I've dealt with sexual assault offenders, I've dealt with serial rapists, with people that committed murder, sexual murder cases. With Epstein, let's start with one of his famous quotes, which is, he said, look it, I control everyone, I control everything, I collect people, I own people, and I can damage people. This is a pretty revealing statement that he made that really typifies his own psychopathology as an organized... control offender. And this dates back in his history to when he was a high school teacher at the Dalton School in New York, where the beginnings of this control expression first arose in his behavior. Then it just progressed more deeply. His situation is As a criminal offender, it's a power and control situation, which he used throughout his career in sexual trafficking.
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Okay. That's a question I've always had because this is one that I'm not you and I am not in your world at all. So I've always just wondered, okay, what makes people go down these paths in the first place? Is it something that happens to them when they're a young child? Is it in their DNA? Is it something they pick up along the way? I mean, I've never understood why some of these people want to damage others. And I think you said it well a moment ago, or he said it well. It's a control thing, but I've never been able to wrap my head around that.
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Yeah, I think that the genesis of his control situation was really sort of an overcompensation to his own shyness and his initial depression. He became what we call a ritualistic sex offender. His whole life was oriented, John, around rituals, around sameness. around a pattern of behavior that he repeated every day. For example, if you look at something like his diet, he was a vegetarian, that he ate selective meals that were prepared for him. He ate yogurt. He thought that his body was his temple. He didn't drink. He didn't smoke. So he had this ritualistic kind of behavior that drifted into this later control situation where he probably abused, on the record, between 500 and 1,000 women using the same kind of ritualistic behavior in concert with Ghislaine Maxwell, who became his sort of surrogate supplier of the women in his ritual. So in a sense, his behavior... And what he did in the sexual part of his criminality is really similar to P. Diddy's situation, where P. Diddy would hire people to bring in these women to victimize them. And then P. Diddy, of course, was an exhibitionist, so he liked to watch his victims being assaulted. Epstein had the same sort of a ritualistic regimen with each person that he had victimized, and he used Ghislaine Maxwell as kind of a highly educated pimp situation for a very disturbed young woman.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. What, other than them getting caught, like in this case happened between, you know, P. Diddy and Epstein, what makes them stop? Or would they continue on indefinitely unless somebody catches them?
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Yeah, I think that's a good question. You know, there is no evidence concerning his rehabilitation, especially when he was the only information we have concerning his mental status. is what was done, the two interviews that were conducted on him at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. The psychologist that interviewed him claimed that he didn't have pathological behaviors that were noticeable. And the second interview, which came after his suicide attempt, a month before he actually committed suicide, noted that he did have some disturbing thoughts and behavior that may have led to his self-destructive behavior. And there's a lot of controversy concerning that, but that's the only mental status information that we have. The rest of it has to be pieced together based on his own behavior, based on anecdotal information supplied from a variety of hopefully reliable sources concerning his personality and how he drew Ghislaine Maxwell into this sense of being an organized sexual offender. So he's a ritualistic sex offender. He's an organized sexual offender. He's a patterned sexual offender. He used the same modus operandi with each victim that he personally victimized. Then he would bribe the victims, the young, impressionable, naive girls who were just desperate for money, like Victoria. Geoffrey, she was a damaged person who had a drug situation. She was a troubled person. Many of these people that he drew into his network were troubled people, and then he would use them to recruit other girls, including high school girls, in Palm Beach. This goes towards his serial offending, which is more of a psychopathic offending really expressed with sexual gratification rather than a true pedophilic offender.
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Gotcha. Gotcha.
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I don't know if that helps.
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No, yeah, all of what you just said makes, I mean, fascinating. Again, I'm learning as I listen to you because some of this stuff, I have no idea how some of this works. So another question I've always had is if we – I don't know if I'm normal or not, but us normal people, Dr. Brady, as we're out and about and we're conversing with different people and you may meet somebody new. I mean, even some of Epstein's folks, you know, people met him at parties and different things and so on. I mean, you socialize. Those people get out in public and socialize. How do you pick these people out of a crowd or can you?
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I mean, how can you identify a pre-identified offender?
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Yeah, like an Epstein. How can you identify somebody like him when you're out in public, or can you?
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Yeah, I think that, you know, you don't want to get political, I know, but I mean, I think that Donald Trump identified Epstein as being a predator. That's why he expelled him from his club in Mar-a-Lago.
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Okay.
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No, you can get political here.
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We don't care. I mean, that doesn't bother me at all. And I think that, by the way, that's the first time I've really ever heard anybody say something along those lines, meaning he saw something there that bothered him.
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Yeah, that's right. I mean, he saw the abusive – movements that he made towards one of his employees. Interestingly enough, Victoria Giaffre was a massage assistant at Mar-a-Lago, and she was recruited by by Maxwell and then introduced to Epstein. So his network was spread out pretty wide from New York to Mar-a-Lago, where he would recruit these women and then engage in this particular behavior. Now, as I said at the beginning, Some of this may have been overcompensatory behavior because he had a low self-esteem pattern. He thought that his victimization of people would contribute to a higher self-esteem level. Probably the bottom line is that his own narcissism and grandiosity led to his engaging in these serial offenses.
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Okay. So for novices out there that are listening, and again, some people will never run into people like this. In other cases, Dr. Brady, other people may run into people like this on a consistent basis. I guess it depends on the circles that you run in and the type of places you go and the people you know and so on. I always wondered, even back in the day, you know, the Jeffrey Dahmers of the world and so on. It's like, okay, if you were to ever meet one of those people, would you know that's who they are? And that's a question I've always had in the back of my mind, because frankly, I don't know.
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Yeah, with sexual predators, there is no real profile. It cuts across, and I've probably... diagnosed and treated more than 200 sexual predators, including pedophiles. There is no standard formulaic description of who these people are. They come from all walks of life. If you look at Epstein, here he comes from the upper crust of society, he expresses his control factor, his control features and his personality is expressed through sexual conquest, where he feels that he is in total control, he's all-powerful, and he can do what he wants to do because he can get away with it. And that's pretty much what a lot of the victims that testified against him said, that he was a control person, that he thought his position of power put him above the law, that he was sort of this person that didn't have to adhere to the ordinary standards of morality and societal harmony, that he could do what he wanted to do and his control stuff. By his control factors, he demonstrated that he could do what he wanted to do. And that's back to the original quote. The last part of the quote, where I can damage people, is very revealing, because in my mind, there is some... evidence that he has some information concerning the victimizing of children by people in high levels of politics and society.
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Got it. Now, a question I also have along those lines is, because he's not a drug addict, he doesn't drink, he's worshipping his body, as you said, so the question I have is, does then this power control and victimization, is that his drug?
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Yeah, I mean, probably, if you want to look at it from a from a physiological standpoint, probably the exhilaration that he gets from his control situation in these ritualistic sexual encounters probably did stimulate part of the brain that is the same part that certain drugs can activate, particularly in the amygdala area. Of the brain, where certain kinds of drugs would affect that area. So I think that's a really interesting point. I hadn't really thought about it, so I'm glad you brought it up. that his drug was this control situation expressed through sexual behavior, although I see this as a secondary, as just the methodology that he used to express his aggression. I mean, obviously, this man hated women. He felt rejected. that he was, underneath, he probably thought he was just a loser. And I've seen other kinds of people in this situation who finally came to the realization that the structure that they had created was really a house of cards and that they really didn't know who they were and they couldn't stop.
SPEAKER 15 :
Interesting. So is there a cure for these types of individuals? In other words, is this something that, you know, somebody like yourself, you sit down, you have conversations, they go through therapy and so on. Is it fixable, I guess, is what I'm asking.
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Yeah, I think that there's a number of treatment programs that could be used with people like this, particularly in the prison system, that the implosive therapy that is a repeated therapy. presentation of stimulus situations that precipitate his need for this control as expressed through sexual behavior. It's a lot like treating post-traumatic stress disorder. And I saw a lot of this kind of behavior when I worked at the VA hospital and saw people coming back from Afghanistan where they had these trauma situations And I think that people like Epstein can be treated, although his dangerousness is the key to his rehabilitation. And we'll never get a chance to do that because, you know, because he's dead and we don't really know what happened to him, how he died.
SPEAKER 15 :
Does that – let me make sure I phrase this correctly. How does what he has compared to, say, a serial killer – I mean, are they still both living off of that quote-unquote high when they have that total – in the case of a serial killer, total control of the point of killing someone. In Epstein's case, total control of the point of sexually abusing them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's a good point. It's the same – Same sexual dynamics involved in the serial killer and in the serial sexual offender like Epstein. But Epstein's primary diagnosis would be psychopathic deviation or psychopathic personality where he used these people. as pawns in his larger scheme to control people and to prove to society, at least for a while, actually a long while, probably 20 years, that he could pull this off without being arrested until he was arrested in Miami in, I believe, 2008 or so. Got it. For victimizing four victims at the time, and then he was convicted, and then he got sort of a sweetheart deal that involved what I call home furlough, which was kind of a misnomer, where he was allowed to stay home every day and then apparently go back to the jail at night.
SPEAKER 15 :
Interesting. JohnCBrady.com is the website. This has been fascinating. I have appreciated your time. I know we went a little longer than what I had said we would and what we planned for, Dr. Brady, but I appreciate your information greatly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I was looking forward to it. You made my day to have this interview. I really enjoyed it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you're very kind. Thank you for saying that, and I, too. I have enjoyed this greatly, and you're welcome anytime. I appreciate this greatly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let's talk again.
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We'll do it. I appreciate that, Dr. Brady. Thank you so much. Again, Dr. John Brady and his book coming out. You can preorder it right now. It's a criminal analysis of Lee Harvey Oswald and Saran Saran. And then, of course, his website, johncbrady.com. Fascinating, by the way. That stuff just fascinates me because I always wonder how those people's brains even – Mine doesn't function that way, so I have a hard time wrapping my head around some of that. So Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith did an interview here of late. Stay tuned. I'll be right back right after that. Golden Eagle Financial. Find him at klzradio.com.
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TJ here with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith with me once again. How are you, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? Doing pretty good. We've been talking about retirement and all that kind of stuff, and I was just curious, what do you usually talk about with the folks that come in for retirement planning? What does that mean?
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Well, if somebody's close to that transition where they're thinking about their 401k and where do you want to allocate that, where's the best place to have that invested? And some people who were fortunate enough to have a pension will have a conversation about that, especially if it comes to selecting a survivorship option.
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And how does that fit with life insurance and that kind of thing, with pensions and life insurance?
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If someone takes a big reduction in their pension, that's what they need to do in order to have a spouse collect part of their pension should they pass on. But that reduction in their pension will only benefit them if the primary worker dies before the spouse. Sometimes people choose life insurance instead. which may not provide quite as much financial benefit, but there's a certainty that the money will stay in their family.
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And is that always a good idea to do, or how do you help folks make that decision?
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Well, it's kind of a long conversation to some degree, because if someone has health concerns, then selecting that survivorship option is always a good idea, because it makes it much more likely that your spouse will collect that survivor benefit. On the other hand, sometimes the other spouse may be anticipating an inheritance.
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That is amazing and complicated, and that's why I lean on you to learn all about the retirement process. Al, thanks so much for joining us today. Well, you're welcome. Tell folks how to get in touch with you.
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You can reach me at my office, 303-744-1128. If you get voicemail, I return those very quickly.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back, and I don't know about all of you, but I thoroughly enjoyed talking to Dr. John Brady. In fact, I want to get him back on and ask about other psychological things that I think people get into. For example, with Epstein, people thinking that this just happened when he just mentioned his first arrest was all the way back in the 2008 or so era, and I think we have sometimes people forget that that it was that long ago. We tend to think that it just happened yesterday, and it's not. The other thing I think was really important of what he said, and I hope all of you caught it, he said as a clinical psychologist that has evaluated multiple people in that realm, he was not a pedophile. He was a hater and abuser of women, but he was not a pedophile, which there's a lot of people out there, even on our side, calling him a pedophile. That's not what this expert just said. Joe, you're next.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, John, I just want to do a check in terms of news coverage. Um, in New York Saturday night, uh, uh, off duty customs agent was sitting in a park with his girlfriend Saturday night and two thugs on a scooter came up and tried to rob him at gunpoint. He got shot. He shot one of them. It turned out they were both illegal aliens from, uh, Dominican Republic. Did that story make the news in Europe?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, and that kind of bothers me. So actually it's a big, one of these, one of these guys had been arrested and released by the New York city police department four times. So of course in New York city, uh, as a sanctuary city, refuses to notify ICE, like, hey, we have an illegal alien here. This is his third arrest. So this guy had been arrested on four separate felonies, and here he is riding around in a scooter, and he tried to rob. Now, the guy's in serious condition. The customs agent got shot in the face and the arm, and he's in the hospital in serious condition. He did get two shots into the guy who the police arrested when he showed up at the hospital trying to get medical treatment. But when I read the story, they're both illegal aliens from Dominican Republic with multiples arrests in the city of New York. And the reason they're still walking around free is that the city of New York refuses to tell ICE.
SPEAKER 15 :
No different than what we would have here in Denver. It would be the same thing here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And so I just want to see if the news, you know, in national news covered it, you know, in your neck of the woods. Obviously the answer was not. The second thing, I was talking to a friend of mine, a conservative friend, and we're talking a bunch of things today. We were having a smoke and a cigar conversation. And we got talking about the Colbert show cancellation. I said, well, you know, he, you know, the show was losing $40 million. You know what?
SPEAKER 15 :
I didn't have that in my notes. I was going to talk about that last week. I had it in my notes, never got around to it. I'm glad you just brought that up, Joe, because we can spend a minute or two talking about this because the left, you know, they're just they're going crazy. You know, it's all Trump's fault that Colbert is getting, you know, getting fired. And that's why, you know, he's not on air. And And the reality, Joe, is, as you know, other than a couple of Fox News programs that run late at night, the majority of, I haven't looked at Jimmy Fallon, but the majority of late-night programming is losing money. They're not making money on what they're paying these guys, all the production of, and so on. They're losing money.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in fact, John, he had, now remember, it's an hour show.
SPEAKER 15 :
And a staff of 100 or so, am I thinking right?
SPEAKER 1 :
200.
SPEAKER 15 :
200. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
For 40 minutes, it's a one-hour show. You take out the commercials. John, it's a staff of 200 for 40 minutes of content.
SPEAKER 15 :
What do you need 200 people to do that for? You don't, obviously. You could run that on, I'm sorry to say, even production and cameras and the whole nine yards. If you couldn't run that with a couple of dozen, you've got a problem.
SPEAKER 07 :
And, in fact, by the way, the Greg Gutfeld show on Fox said, which outdraws Colbert by almost a million viewers a night. He does it with a staff of eight.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, so my 12 wasn't too far off.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. But the point is, that fact apparently was hidden. Everybody is doing the narrative that this was a pressure. They caved to pressure from Trump. And it had nothing to do. The show was losing. And by the way, their viewership was declining year over year. So that's another thing that the media just kind of neglected.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's all Trump's fault. It's because he's in you know, he's in in charge, quote unquote, that this is all happening. And yet I guarantee you, Joe, if we were to interview executives from CBS and sat down and had a little meeting with them. And by the way, a lot of other networks, for that matter, they would be like, yeah, no, we're like hemorrhaging dollars. And we've got to figure out how to you know, how to how to put the plug in here.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the last one, John, the story about the – it made national news last week. A woman in California, her relatives claim she'd been kidnapped by ICE and taken to a warehouse and forced to sign a self-deportation order. It turned out it was a hoax. It was a hoax. She staged the whole thing. Did that make the news?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, not here, of course.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not here. So – and my conservative friend was oblivious to all this stuff, and I'm saying – I'm shaking my head. What an incredible job the media is doing of— Suppressing info. Suppressing information, only letting you hear what they want to hear.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, and our side, by the way, sometimes isn't any different. This is like the last guest I had talking about Epstein and his psychological end of things. This guy's an expert in that, has interviewed, you know, 25 years. He's even been on, you know, the defense stand and testimony and so on, talking about individuals and, you know, their background and their psychotic, you know— where they're at psychologically speaking and so on. You know, he's basically talking about Epstein being, you know, 100 percent a womanizer and somebody that abused women and so on, but not once. In fact, he specifically said he's not a pedophile. But yet our side and a lot of people out there are calling him that, Joe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Actually, a bunch of people on the left are calling Trump a pedophile. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
So they're going to call him a pedophile. And yet this guy claims he's an expert that even Epstein wasn't. Right. So in fact, this guy, this last guest, for all of you that maybe didn't catch that, I hope you did. He basically said, Joe, that at one point Trump said, listen, there's some bad juju with this guy. He's no longer allowed in the club. We're disassociating ourselves with this guy. Yeah. That's not in the press, Joe. No one's talking about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And that, you know, and again, my friend doesn't watch MSNBC. He doesn't watch these, you know, crazy. He doesn't watch Rachel Maddow. And yet what he hasn't heard about these stories. And, you know, and we go to the gym together and we talk and we'll sit next to each other on the bike. And every week it's, I say, you're kidding. You didn't hear about that side. You didn't hear about that piece of the story. And he's not a liberal. He's a conservative. Wow. And he says, Joe, I need to come sit next to you every day because I'm not hearing the stuff that you're telling me. But it scares me, John, that the press is doing such a great job. Now, he doesn't watch Fox News. If you watch Fox News, maybe he would hear some of the stuff. And I hate to be a shill for Fox News, but John, where else are you going to go to hear this stuff?
SPEAKER 15 :
Great question. Somebody just asked me, by the way, how many employees do I have? It's me and Ann Upstates, the social media stuff and the website, and Charlie, of course, and he's with the station here. So I guess you could say maybe there's three of us, but actual employees, none.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you have to kid yourself. Here in the studio, I mean— you know, if there's cameramen that, you know, work for CBS. Yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER 15 :
And then you've got to have editors and some production folks and, you know, somebody's got to write some scripts and so on. But yeah, Charlie just said there's 20 writers. Well, they must not be writing very well or his show would be doing better.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, yeah. But, you know, he is, he was the leading, he was the leading of those three shows. He did have the highest viewership, but All three of their viewers – I mean, they were all down around – he was only 2.4 million, and the rest were even lower than that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, for those of you listening, that sounds like a big number, but not in TV land. It's not.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, not in TV. I'm trying to remember, like, some of the – well, this guy that drowned in Costa Rica, I think the Cosby show had, like, 16 million viewers for that weekly show.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you talk about 2.4 million. And the staff at 200, John – I'm shaking my head. And when you talk about 40 minutes of content, since he would have a guest on every night. half of that 40 minutes was the guest talking. It wasn't even him talking. He did a quick monologue.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Charlie just said if he had to do it on his own, he wouldn't. By the way, this is interesting. Jimmy Fallon, who, by the way, as you guys all know, all of you listening even, Joe, guys like me, you, Charlie, we grew up watching Johnny Carson and the like, and their viewership was huge. The Tonight Show right now is 1.18 million viewers is all. Insignificant, insignificant. Which means, you know, when it comes time to even look at his contract and such, they've got to start looking at some of these and say, wait a minute, time out. We've either got to get things scaled way back, and you're going to do this for a lot less money, or we're just going to have to cancel the show, one of the two.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and Colbert's contract alone was $20 million. Now, John, think about that. $20 million, he was getting like $400,000 a night because he didn't work 52 weeks of the year. Right, good point. So he was getting about $400,000 per show to host that show. Talk about insane, John. Again, but how it's being spun is that CBS caved to pressure from Trump.
SPEAKER 15 :
As you know, Joe, this just strictly comes down to, at the end of the day, it's literally dollars and cents. That's all it is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, John, you know that, I know that, but I can't tell you how many people are believing the spin that they were pressured by Trump and they caved to Trump.
SPEAKER 15 :
The one advantage that media has, and this is on both sides of the aisle, by the way, Joe, is the majority of people, politicians included, they've never written a payroll check, Joe. They have no idea how that stuff works. None. In their defense, they don't know. They have no clue, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
They have no clue.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, not to get off track, Joe, but it's why I believe fully that, A, government hates small business, even medium-sized businesses, because they know what you and I just said goes away when you have those types of individuals involved. If they can get everybody to go work for someone else, including government, they have no clue how that works.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, you're 100% correct. But, John, again, I find that I'm both saddened and scared.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
by how the media has been able to manipulate the vast majority of the American public, and that's why shows like yours, John, are just so important. You know, shows like yours, and there's others on at night, oh, Mark Levin and guys like him. But, you know, when you talk about their listenership, I mean, John, I don't know how many listeners you have, but, you know, you're a light in the darkness, you know, and there's a couple of other guys in town that, you know, I remember... You know, Mike Rosen used to have a huge following, but Mike's not with us. Well, Mike doesn't have a show anymore. Nope. But we need guys like you, and we need guys like Mike Rosen and others.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
So please, John, keep doing what you do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I appreciate it, Joe. That means a lot. Thank you for that. I appreciate that very much, and we'll talk to you Thursday.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, talk to you Thursday.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, man, appreciate it. And that means a lot. Joe, thank you. I cannot say that enough. Individuals like Joe, I respect Joe a lot. He is a very, very intelligent individual. We do a segment with Joe each week now because a lot of you have actually requested that that and wanted to hear more from joe because you like all the things he has to say and coming from joe not that the rest of you don't matter you all do but that comment from joe means a lot and i appreciate that greatly geno's auto service coming up next it's hot and your vehicle by the way when it gets hot might do things that it doesn't normally do might have problems that it wouldn't normally have and if that's your vehicle give geno's a call today find them by going to geno's auto service.com and geno starts with a j
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All right. And Charlie and I were talking through the break, which you guys are not always able to hear, of course, because we've got commercials and other things going on. But looking through some of the numbers and the revenue numbers and the percentage drops in viewers, none of the late night shows other than Gutfield are doing well. They're all struggling. And I will be the first to tell you that. A, the majority of them aren't funny. I'll just be straight up honest. They're just not funny. They are not what I grew up with with Johnny Carson or even Jay Leno. They are not near as funny. The writing is not as good. They become so woke. All they're into is politics and bashing this person and bashing that person. In a lot of them, it's all about how can they take a hit at Trump or whatever the case may be, and it's not boding well for them financially speaking. I'll be honest. I can't tell you the last time I watched – Outside of Gutfield, occasionally I'll see something of his, even as a rerun, or I'll watch something of his or whatever. But outside of that, I don't watch any of them. I think the only reason why Jimmy Fallon is doing as well as he is is because he's got a ton of social media following, meaning he's got some presence there and the ability to do some things along those lines. But bottom line, none of them are doing very well in their slots. And then you've got to start asking the question, okay, what's the future for late-night TV? And I'll be straight-up honest. I don't think they have one. I think all of it is changing. And here's what I think personally. Here's what I think is changing it. Social media. People are able to go on Instagram and watch reels. You can go on TikTok and watch those videos. You can go to YouTube and watch all the videos there, long or short. The reality is you can go to any of the other services we all have, Netflix, Prime, et cetera, and you can watch whatever it is you want to watch. And frankly, it's more entertaining than these knuckleheads are at night. And it's simply a matter of there's more choices now than there ever was. And there's better choices than there ever was. And people are making those choices. And the reality is they're not watching TV. Not that kind of TV. And I've predicted this in the past. And a lot of you listening, you have done just what I've done. You've cut the cord. You're no longer subscribing to a cable service or a satellite service or whatever. You're doing things piecemeal, if you would. In fact, I was commenting on this with my wife a couple of days ago because I'll be honest, this particular summer, I'm not exaggerating. I'll bet you total, total this summer, I bet I haven't watched four hours of total TV, and I'm not exaggerating. I just don't watch it in the summertime. I'm doing other things. We're out in the evenings. I'm doing other things. We're outside. We're enjoying the weather. I'm working out in my barn. Whatever the case may be, there's other things I'm doing. And even when I come in the house and I kind of unwind from the total end of the day, I'm not turning on any television. In some cases, I just sit and relax, do nothing. and i i don't think i'm the only one doing that is my point i think a lot of other people do the same thing and with the exception of the elderly you know and i'm when i say elderly i'm gonna say probably 75 and up that's what i'm considering in this particular end of things and i say elderly i think the tv watching crowd 75 plus might be watching some of that late night stuff Outside of that, and that age group, by the way, is pretty flexible. It could even be higher than that. It might be a little lower than that. But I think mid-70s, you might be watching some of this television. Outside of that, I don't think most do. Charlie, you haven't watched any of that stuff. You're like me. You haven't watched it in a long time. So a lot of you listening to me right now, you're in the same boat. You're not watching it, viewing it either. So, again, that has to be true, or these numbers that I'm reading, all of them dropping. Jimmy Fallon, by the way, has had the biggest drop of all, and they just renewed his contract. I have no idea why, because frankly, he shouldn't be on air. So you look at all of that and you've got to be if you're an executive of these of these television companies, you've got to be in these networks. I should say you've got to be looking at the same man alive. If we don't get some of this stuff turned around, we're not going to be in existence because we can't bleed this kind of money. It doesn't matter who's in the presidency. The watching habits of people are changing is what this really amounts to. more than anything. 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All right, we are back. I was just telling Charlie during the break as a couple of you texted in about you watching TV and your habits and so on, and I'll be straight up honest. I have far more TVs than I have the ability to watch. Don't watch even the little bit that I do watch I could do on one television set. And I'm at a point where I'll not take them down because if I ever sell my house, they'll just go with the house because I'm not taking a single TV with me, period. They can all just stay up and the next person that buys it can have it if, in fact, they want them. But I think the only reason in some cases I have them is just because it looks good in the room, but I never turn it on. And I don't think... i'm the only american out there doing the same thing i think i am becoming very much a part of the same trend unless you've got maybe smaller kids or teenagers and they watch a lot of tv for whatever reasons i think as you get older this is just my own opinion and this is different than what it used to be but i think for me personally as i get older i find more and more things to do that aren't tv related and i don't think i'm the only one that way now i will say this that when i was younger As I would watch older people around me, they were TV addicts. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. They literally, the TV would be on from sunup to sundown. They'd get up in the morning, turn the TV on. It would be on all day long, no matter what they were doing. And they would turn it off and go to bed. And I kind of grew up with elderly people in my life that were that way. I think that trend is changing. That's where I said a little bit ago that that 75 and up is probably still in that range where, and if you're of that age, tell me whether you watch a lot of TV or not, because that's how I'm kind of gauging it. Because I think a lot of people now, as they age, they're determining that there's other things I can do besides watch TV. Like I said, all of the other things that are out there that you can now, quote-unquote, get entertainment or learn from, you don't have to watch television. It's crazy because I think a lot of the people that are in that industry, the flat screen makers and so on, have probably thought that this was going to be a big boom as more and more people, especially younger people, grew up. There'd be more and more people watching TV, but actually – And I need to do a little bit of studying on this, but I think there's less people overall watching TV now than there was a decade ago, probably even five years ago. Now, during COVID, kind of throw that out the window because – and that was five years ago. I think a lot of people watched TV during COVID because they didn't do anything else. But now that that's all gone and over and people are back being outside and enjoying things and so on, I just don't think people are watching television anymore. Like they once were. So along those lines, I don't know if I'll get to all of these. If not, I'll spread these out through the week. But 10 old school hobbies that boomers love. So boomers, of course, are from, what, 40? What is it, Charlie? 40 or 41 up until 64, I want to say. I think that's the boomer. Is that boomers? I want to say somewhere in that neighborhood, roughly. Anyways, baby boomers. So old school hobbies that they loved that are now becoming cool again in 2025. And we talked about this actually on Friday. Andy and I did. Vinyl records. So the collecting of vinyl records is becoming popular again. A lot of folks out there have got now turntables. They can even plug that into their digital system that plays throughout the house or whatever. But collecting vinyl records. is becoming popular again. In fact, at one time in America, there was only one company making vinyl. There's now several. So it was almost dead, and it revived again, and now there's more and more people using vinyl. This one I was not aware of. And this is not me, nor will it ever be me. But knitting and crocheting, those are things that are coming back to life, I guess you could say. So knitting and crocheting, and I'm going to go ahead and put somebody on hold. Charlie stepped out for a moment, so I just put somebody on hold. We'll try to squeeze you in here before the end of the hour, but Charlie had to step out for just one moment, so it might be a minute before he screens to get you back up. I'll continue on. Bird watching, that's something I do do. So birdwatching, and this is one that actually kind of surprised me because I didn't think people really were into this much, but I guess it's coming back. I sort of did some birdwatching and learned how from my grandfather, who was a big birdwatcher. He had all sorts of bird books and all sorts of things and always had the binoculars next to the window, and he had a bird feeder out in his backyard, and he would watch birds all of the time. It's just what he did. And I learned a lot about certain birds from him as a youngster. And my wife and I kind of do the same thing. We have several bird feeders in the backyard, and we do watch birds and so on. And my favorite of all, of course, are bluebirds and hummingbirds. Those are my two favorite. Roller skating. Believe it or not, roller skating is making a return. And Charlie, if you want to get that call screened, I'll do my best. I don't have much more than about a minute, but I'll try my best to get them in really quick. But roller skating is something that is actually coming back as well, which that one is another one that I did not realize. Who? Jim, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, man. Hey, you know you were talking about Johnny Carson and stuff like that? So I have Roku. Oh, yeah. And I don't subscribe to anything really, but I have that because there's a lot of channels on there that are free.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's actually a Johnny Carson channel.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really?
SPEAKER 16 :
And so, yeah, you can go on there and you can watch... reruns and stuff, and each day they try to coordinate it with kind of the same time. Oh, I didn't know that. Like in July or something like that, but it'll be like 1985, 1975. Okay. It's hilarious to watch those old ones. I did not know that. Like Burt Reynolds and all those people, stuff like that. But yeah, there's several of those streaming channels that have a Johnny Carson... channel, and you can watch it. Me and my wife watch it all the time.
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It's hilarious. You know what, Jim? I'm out of time, but I appreciate that. I will look that up. Thank you for that. That's a great tip. I was not aware of that. Now, Jim just brought up something else really quick before we close out that I think is also affecting a lot of this late-night watching. what he just said. You've got so many other choices where even if you want to watch something like that, you go pick something that's your favorite versus some knucklehead that's just on TV bashing Trump all night long, which, by the way, gets old even if you're on the left. The far left, yeah, that's all they want. But everybody else, you don't want to hear that stuff when you're actually watching comedians. So, guys, that's it for today. I appreciate all of your feedback, your input, your text messages. Thank you, thank you, thank you. We'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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John Rush is joined by Will Hild, Executive Director of Consumers’ Research, for an explosive segment on Microsoft’s decision to outsource Pentagon-related coding to engineers in communist China. What could go wrong?!? They dissect the implications for national security, the failures of DEI-driven decision-making, and how corporate wokeism is often a smokescreen for incompetence. They also talk strategy—what consumers can do to fight back, how to use your voice and your wallet, and what happens when tax credits for EVs and solar run out. Later, John discusses new battery technology, safety issues with lithium-ion batteries, and a listener brings up the “Nothing” phone. Plus: a conversation about golf great Scottie Scheffler, old-school sports rivalries, and why the Mountain Time Zone is the best for watching sports.
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And we're back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Will Held joining us now. Will, welcome. How are you today? Doing great. Great to be with you. Executive Director of Consumers Research. Talk to us about Microsoft and the fact that there's been some digging, and I guess they've got some engineers in communist China that actually work for the Pentagon's computer system.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's frankly one of the most insane stories you could possibly imagine. Microsoft won a contract to help maintain the Department of Defense's computer systems. And instead of hiring U.S.-based coders here who they could vet properly and trust, they hired a team in China and then just simply assigned them sort of chaperones here in the United States to watch over them as they work. The problem is, of course, that, you know, that allows them all kinds of access to our defense systems. And if you... In order to keep someone from doing something bad, you'd have to be at least as good as they are at coding. Well, if they're at least as good as the Chinese coders, just have them use the coding.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you, Will. I mean, yeah, I'm sharp enough on the technical aspect of things to know how some of these things work, fortunately. And the other thing I know, Will, is unless... those quote unquote chaperones are literally watching every single piece of code in line that they are inputting. And to your point, if they're doing that, why not do it yourself? Because if you're not doing that, you're not watching over them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly, exactly. And so this is a company that we've been calling out over the last few months for doubling down on wokeism, for doubling down on DEI. They've been one of the companies that has pushed back the hardest against the Trump administration's initiative to get rid of DEI in higher ed and in corporate America. And so it's very telling that this is the company that was offshoring coding of our defense systems to our probably biggest geopolitical enemy in the world. No, it is the biggest.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you're very spot on, Will, when you say that. It is, in my opinion, they are, you know, there's some other bad actors out there for sure, but they're public enemy number one because they have the ability, as you know, to take that information, and in my opinion, I don't think I'm wrong here, Will, they've got the ability to turn that into other things that can be used against us far better than probably any other country on planet Earth can.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. And while we may have issues with countries like Iran or Russia, China has much, much broader ambitions for the world than either of those two countries. And so it is an insane breach of just basic common sense that they would allow. And frankly, it's borderline treasonous.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you on that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
But imagine what happens if we get into a kinetic conflict over the defense of Taiwan and And our defense systems fail in that moment because they have allowed Chinese coders to be involved. And this is something I want to draw a distinction here because one of the reasons we go after woke companies is because it's inherently bad to discriminate based on race and sex. But the other reason that wokeism is so bad is because without fail, whenever we see a company going woke, really, really going woke, they are always failing at their core mission. It's a distraction from the fact that they have forgotten about their consumers, or in this case, forgotten about our national security, right? And so that's why whenever you see a company going woke, what you should think is, what are they hiding? What are they messing up? And I think this is a perfect example of that with Microsoft.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what? I think you're 100% correct on all of that. And, again, my fear in this, and I'm sure you guys' fear is the same, is the back doors also that can be put in doing these things, meaning, to your point a moment ago, we have some sort of major conflict. Something comes up, and then all of a sudden we're wondering why things aren't working quite right. We saw Alaska Airlines have to shut down yesterday for X amount of time for a cybersecurity situation. Will, what's to say that – That couldn't happen to our defense mechanisms. And by the way, any type of a scenario you could throw out there, who's to say that couldn't happen to us?
SPEAKER 07 :
Nothing at all. And Microsoft certainly can't guarantee it at this point. I would hope that... Really quick, Will.
SPEAKER 03 :
Microsoft can't put out a new iOS, put out a new OS without a gazillion bugs in it. So I have no confidence in that side of it at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right, and I think this speaks to even a broader trend. As you know, the quality of Microsoft products is on the decline as they have outsourced more and more to foreign coders who they use to undercut wages of American-trained coders here in the United States. And it just speaks to a lack of concern for their product life, for their consumers, and they just use this gloss of DEI that they're hiring non-whites. OK, in order to do it as if that's a virtue, as if discriminating against people based on their race or sex is a good thing. They brag about it in order to undercut wages. So it's a double damage to to to to consumers into the American country.
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So I always ask this question because I like solutions. How do we fix this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think one of the biggest things we do is consumers start treating DEI and wokeism as the mark of poor quality and bad management that it is. For a number of years, companies would brag about it. They need to go from not just bragging, they need to be running from it. And so that's one of the reasons we have a weekly woke alert system that we put out. You can visit the consumer's research to sign up for that. But we always make sure to provide contact information. It's not just about getting people riled up and making them feel like doomsday is around the corner. It's about activating us as consumers to push back. And I think everyone would agree, we're seeing a lot less of this nonsense than we saw maybe four or five years ago. That's because consumers have pushed back against Target. Budweiser, and a host of other companies. And the more we do that, the more they will understand they're not going to get away with this DEI wokeism scam.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, as you know, Will, it's the power of the purse that really does affect some of these individuals. And I had read I was not able to verify this, so please nobody go out and hold me to this or repeat this because I wasn't able to verify this. But rumor has it, Will, that Budweiser, you mentioned them, that in that year that we had all of the issues with Mulvaney and all of that, that they actually disposed of more Bud Light than they actually sold.
SPEAKER 07 :
I had not heard that, but I wouldn't be surprised about that because I think what happened there is a huge reservoir of frustration with corporate America was unleashed by that insane campaign. And so I would only amend what you're saying. The power of the purse is very important, but never forget the power of your voice as well. Make sure that when you're switching your purchasing decisions from one product or the other, you let that company know why. Because that filters up to the executives, and that's what will make them... And part of what made the Budweiser campaign so effective was the social media, the jokes, the posts, the attacks. It devastated their brand. consumers should never feel anything but empowered because they really are the ones in charge.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, if there's anything social media has done positively, there's a lot of negatives that come out of it, Will, as we know, but if there's any positives that have come out of it, and for those of you listening, trust me, it does work. There are teams. of individuals out there from all of these big companies, even some small companies that are literally watching for posts. A company like Microsoft, Will, will have pre-programmed bots, if you will, that are out there looking for negative or positive feedback on any of their products. So believe me, when you post on either Facebook or Instagram or TikTok or X Twitter, however you want to say it, at the end of the day, Will, those companies know that because they are purposely looking for that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is exactly right. That is exactly right. And that taken with the decline in sales is the nuke that destroys the business. When they see that message of this is why we're not buying your product anymore and the sales start to drop, that's when those executives start polishing up their resumes because they realize it's only a matter of time until they're out the door.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's exactly right. So, no, you are right. It is the power of the purse. It's the power of social media. In some cases, direct phone calls, direct emails, direct letters, even snail mail, believe it or not, folks. That still works today, Will. Those things make it to the executives' offices as well. And to your point, it may not have much of an effect early on because most of them will say, well, we'll just kind of ride this out and see how it goes. But if they start seeing a dramatic drop in sales, oh, believe me, they pay attention.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. And they are terrified. These woke companies are terrified of more and more Americans basically making this a routine habit to push back on this. And that's really why we created this woke alert system, which you can sign up for on our website at consumersresearch.org, so that we can, for the consumers that are just sick and tired of this, we can give them a way to activate week after week after week. We're not going to bombard you, but it gives you something to feel like you're pushing back because this is how we went.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. Honestly, Will, again, thank you. Perfect segment. I've enjoyed this. It goes right along with some of the things I was talking about in the last hour. And again, give the website one more time where folks can find you and keep up on all the things you guys are working on.
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Absolutely. They can sign up for our woke alerts at consumersresearch.org, and they can follow me on X at Will Hill. That's W-I-L-L-H-I-L-D. Come along with us. We're building together an army, and we're going to end this woke stuff.
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Will, thank you. I appreciate you, sir. You're welcome anytime. Thanks. Thanks so much for having me. You bet. Have a great night. Now, real quick, this is one of my weekend sponsors, but I'm going to throw this out there because there's some of you listening where you're thinking, well, yeah, but I have to have Microsoft to do X, Y, Z. Well, do you? Do you? In some cases, no, you don't. And I will tell you that in my situation, I have not been a regular Microsoft user now since about... I got to go back and think here. It's been well over a decade plus... that I've actually used anything Microsoft-related outside of some of their office products and so on, which, by the way, I use minimally because there's workarounds for that as well. So I will tell you that I've got a great friend of mine. He actually is one of my sponsors for the weekend programming, Ease My Pain. i.t services so it's easemypain.biz so some of you that are in the business world not not individually uh brian doesn't do anything on an individual basis this is all you know business to business stuff so some of you that have businesses where you're thinking man i like that segment i'd like to participate i don't want to be buying any more microsoft product than i need to I want to send a message loud and clear on all of this. I have somebody, Brian, at Ease My Pain that will help you with that and making some decisions as to do you really need to have all these Microsoft products or are there workarounds in other areas where you wouldn't need that? If you want to reach out to him, you can actually text me directly and I can give you his number or go to easemypain.biz. It's easemypain.biz and he'll help you figure out a way around some of what we were just talking about. Veteran Windows and Doors is up next. And at Dave's, at Veteran Windows, I should say, Dave Bancroft will inform you of there is an Energy Star potential change coming in January that you need to know about because it could affect how windows and doors work for us at our elevation. And the proposed changes are not going to be good for Colorado. So find out from Dave today what you need to do. You can do that by going to klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back, and I've got it in my notes. I might as well talk about it now because I was going to cover this anyways. I did a little bit of this in the last hour talking about solar and EVs, and given that we're going to talk to Richard here momentarily on the car end of things, do a car review as well, I thought, why not? This is a great place to slide this in. So I talked a little bit towards the end of the last hour about EVs and some of the experts that are out there, supposed experts that are out there when it comes to cars and EVs and so on. Now, keep in mind, every expert has – their own lens that they're looking at things through, whether they're on the far right, far left, in the middle, and I fully understand that. And nothing wrong with that. I fully get that, you know, folks will look at things through their own lens. I have my own lenses that I look through. Now, I try to be as open-minded as I possibly can, especially on the automotive sides of things because, as I've said many times on Drive Radio, I'm more of a car advocate than anything else, meaning that, you know, a car is a car is a car. And, you know, EVs especially, just because they're getting some sort of a bump from government doesn't mean they're a bad car. Jennifer, let me go ahead and talk to you before I do anything else. Go ahead, Jennifer.
SPEAKER 08 :
A couple things really quick. I have heard that if you charge your lithium-ion batteries in your EV at a faster rate, The batteries do not last as long. Have you heard this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that is not true. Let me just say this, Jennifer. There's a lot, I think, of misinformation out there along the lines of not only EVs but just regular batteries, your phone, your car chargers, all that kind of stuff. and the reality is what you just said is no now where evs can struggle and this is true with a lot of devices when you charge or overcharge so a lot of evs they want you the manufacturer even wants you instead of running that at a full 100 charge they want you to run at 85 to 90 charge leaving some headroom in there and there's a couple of reasons why they want you to do that One, it does help the battery life last longer by not going to the full charge. The other thing that it does is because a lot of EVs have regenerative braking, meaning you can drive them with one pedal, and instead of actually using the brakes, the electric motors will generate power that then feed back into the battery, and that will actually slow you down. And frankly, if you've ever driven an EV with one pedal driving, it's one of the slickest things out there because you rarely step on the brake pedal. If you do it just right, you can come up to a stop. Works very well. The problem, Jennifer, is if you charge to 100%, regenerative braking will not work when you're starting out because there's nothing to send that power back to. In other words, the battery is fully charged. Regenerative braking is basically disabled at that point because there's no place to basically send that power. So in turn, it doesn't work. So what they want you to do is charge 85% to 90% so that as you use regenerative braking, it's always there no matter when you're driving it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think the term we've always used is they want a little headroom.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. That's right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, here's another one for you. Have you ever heard of the nothing cell phone?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I have not. The nothing cell phone.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think they're called nothing.tech is their website. They've just come out with their third version of the nothing phone.
SPEAKER 03 :
I see it now. Yeah, I'm looking at it as we speak. I've never heard of it.
SPEAKER 08 :
They don't use a lithium-ion battery. They use something called a silicon carbon battery, which apparently has higher energy density, and it charges faster than lithium-ion.
SPEAKER 03 :
Interesting. Very cool.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's the first place I've heard of it. There was a discussion about the difficulty of making a certain battery, and I think they were talking about this one, It requires an extremely thin ceramic film to be used inside the battery. And it's very difficult to make that at this point in time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Meaning there's still advancement that can be made across battery life period, whether that be for our handheld devices, whether it be for backup power, whether it be for, uh, cars even. So to your point, Jennifer, and I, but thank you, I'm going to look into this phone cause I had not heard of that, but just shows you that there's still a long way to go on the battery technology end of things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And, um, You know, I've always been wary and respectful of the lithium-ion battery because you always hear the stories about things that were mistreated.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they blew up on you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or like that, what was it, a forklift at a large food warehouse about three, four years ago that caught on fire and they couldn't put it out and there went the huge warehouse with all the food.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they are something to be... I mean, Jennifer, it's funny you say that because it's a lot like... Anything else, I mean, in my world where I've always been around the automotive end of things and all the way back to when I was a kid and you respected gasoline, open gasoline containers, anything, I mean, all of those things, you were taught at a very early age, these are things you have a healthy respect for. This is no different. You were talking about the exact same thing. The problem is because we don't look at it the same way we do gasoline that's very volatile, we should because there's really not a lot of difference at times.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, every year there is approximately 12 or 13 people who die in New York City because they had their EV scooter worked on and they are either using the wrong charger or the person who repaired it didn't do right. And they bring it into the house and it's by the front door and it bursts into flames and they die.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which is no different than them dragging a can of gas in the front door.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or filling your gas tank while smoking a cigarette.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, having an open flame or a spark or anything along those lines. Absolutely. And I think, you know, we get so – I mean, the same thing. I see people at gas stations, Jennifer, all the time where they get so complacent even filling up their regular car where they're not really even half paying attention to what's – And I'm thinking, man alive, it's no wonder we don't have more accidents on a daily basis. And some of what you're talking about, whether it be, you know, batteries exploding on airplanes or you're talking about electric bikes in the front of people's houses and so on, the reality is all of these things we have to be very respectful of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And if you have a cell phone or anything else that uses lithium ion batteries and you see that it's kind of changed shape because it's smelling a little.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Stop it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pull that, get rid of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I had a listener on Saturday that called in. They had a little jump box that was doing that. It had been in the car, got overheated probably at one point. It had bulged out the side, and he could just tell the battery was bad, and that's a great example of what you're talking about, Jennifer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, thanks, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, Jennifer, thank you. Great, great, great points. And I appreciate that kind of a carryover from, you know, drive radio, but applies to everybody that's listening. And my point with this particular conversation was it'll be very interesting. And I had a conversation with a good friend of mine. We were going back and forth via email this morning. And it's going to be really interesting to see what happens with EV and solar once these tax credits are gone. or diminished greatly. States may still do a few things here or there, depending upon the state and so on. So you might get some tax advantages on certain vehicles, certain states and so on, or even solar and all of that. What it's going to do across the board, solar and EV, is I don't think either one are going to die, by the way. But you're going to see a reckoning of those companies. And what I mean by that is the ones that are really sharp, that have got a really fantastic product, that can stand on that product and the product alone and sell on the basis of that product, the features and benefits and so on, those will make it. Those will last. They'll market, they'll figure out a way around these things, and they will still be okay at the end of the day. The ones that have been kind of riding along the coattails of tax credits, or they did it because they felt like they had to, and by the way, this is solar companies to EVs, because some jumped into it because they knew there were buyers out there that would do it. There were these tax credits ready to go. Let's jump in. We'll take advantage of this stuff, because in some cases, there was even tax credits on the manufacturing side as well. So we'll jump on board. We're all in, and off we go. Well, when that ends... it's going to separate, quote-unquote, the wheat from the chaff. And my prediction is you're going to see the really good companies rise to the top. They'll still be successful. They'll make it. They'll market correctly, and they'll be fine. The ones that were not doing it correctly and were in it for the wrong reasons, you're not going to see them make it. You'll see a consolidation of sorts, and what we see today in both ends of that will be greatly diminished in the not-too-distant future because those products that they have just – They just flat out won't be selling. That's my prediction. We'll see how things go here in the near future because the EV credits run out here at the end of September. And I haven't checked on solar. I don't know exactly when those end, but I think it's this year is going to be the last year for those getting any kind of credit on your taxes as well. Golden Eagle Financial. Now, speaking of taxes and all of that and planning for the future, financially speaking, Al Smith would love to help you with your financial future, the planning of... All you need to do is call him today. Just go to klzradio.com and look for Al there.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. My son Richard should be joining us here momentarily. And if not, we will roll right along just like we always do. And, again, for those of you that these are questions I get all the time when it comes to, you know, what's going to happen with certain industry. I had this question that came up this morning. It was in my inbox. What's going to happen to the, you know, solar industry? What's going to happen to the EV industry? And that's where my comments a moment ago came. came into play was I thought, well, you know what? This is a good time to talk about it because it'll be really interesting to see what these industries do. And again, for those of you that potentially have investments or things along those lines, this is where you really need to be double checking to see where is my money. And that goes back to the whole Al at Golden Eagle Financial. Be looking at some of those things because again, some of these companies are going to do very well and some of them won't do so well. Richard, what's going on?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, not too much, Dad. It's the heat of summer right now, isn't it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Very hot. It doesn't look like it outside. If you look outside, it would look like it would be very, very cool, but it's 92 as we speak. Now, one place where it was also hot was out on the golf course with all the players this last weekend, and old Sheffer, man, he can knock it out of the park.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sheffler can. Not hot in old St. Andrews there in England or whatever it is, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
What a tough course, by the way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Gloomy. Well, it's funny because it's a link style golf, right? So it doesn't feel like it should be as tough, but it is, right? Because it's that thick rough, right? You get into the tall grass and the weeds. We've got a few of those around here because it's kind of plains golf.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right, right. Good point.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, it's right on the sea out there. It's just definitely a different little, you know, situation. But, yeah, old Scotty, he is doing everything in his power to, I don't know, he's doing everything in his power to compete for old Tiger, I will say. And, you know, can Tiger and Isaiah, I saw their stat, and basically he's almost the same as Tiger in, for the first four years or whatever it is, or by the time he won his fourth major, like essentially in between his first and his fourth major was like the exact same wins, exact same whatever. Actually, Scottie was better in a few different categories. But, I mean, even for you, Dad, it's impressive to get you talking about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and again, I just happen to be watching a little bit of it here and there. Don't watch a lot of TV, but I got a few updates, and I was watching some different things. We were out to dinner one night, and, you know, because of the time difference, some of that stuff plays at different times than it normally would because of the big time difference. And, of course, they record some of that stuff as well. But just watching him play, and the one thing about him that I think is different about him versus even other golfers is he just plays golf. You and I were talking about this today. There's just not a lot of flair there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, he's a very no-nonsense kind of player, right, Dad? He is the type of player that he's going to go out, he's going to make quick work of it, he's not going to do a whole lot of frills and get with the fans, where Tiger would do that a little bit, right? He would sort of play to the fans in a lot of cases, and he would kind of be the showman of sorts, if you know what we're talking about. And Scottie's, I don't want to say he's the opposite of that dad, but, you know, even some of his comments this past week, he sort of talked about, like, he almost plays both because he's good at it. And I'm not to say, like, you know, we're kind of talking about, it's like, you know, Joker for basketball with the Nuggets, right? Like, do I think that Nikola Jokic likes basketball? Yeah, you don't play professionally if you don't like it. But do I think that he lives and breathes it? No, I don't think so. And I think that that's how Scottie is. Sheffler kind of is. I don't think he lives and breathes golf. I think he enjoys it when he plays. I think he's really good at it, and that's partially why he plays. But ultimately, I think that he's – and maybe that's the right perspective. I actually think he's got a – I think he's a Christian, or at least from what I can tell, and he has his priorities in order. He talks about spending time with his kids and wanting to do that, and I think there can be something said for that, right? The guy who sort of puts his family first and isn't really so consumed with – just winning at all costs. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I think, you know, you and I were talking today, I think that he, maybe I'm wrong in this and maybe I'm, my memory is, you know, failing me, but I look at him and I did watch golf younger because my dad watched a lot of golf. So we were kind of forced to watch it. Cause back then you didn't have much choice. If dad was watching something, there wasn't too many other places to, you know, we didn't have 15 TVs in the house. Like a lot of families do today. We had one. And if there's something on and you weren't able to watch what you wanted, just tough noogies, you had to suck it up and keep watching whatever was on TV. And a lot of that for me was golf because of my dad. And I can remember watching, you know, Jack Nicklaus play back in the day. And, you know, Jack was a lot like Scotty. There just wasn't a lot of I mean, he was always a nice guy, always appreciated the fans. No problems along those lines, but not a lot of razzle dazzle, I guess I could say, Richard.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nope, I would totally agree with you. And again, I wasn't obviously as much into Jack and Arnie and those guys. I obviously grew up watching Tiger. But there's a certain sense of, like you say, kind of no-nonsense about him. And Scotty, he's kind of a throwback type of player in that sense. And honestly, I think it makes him endearing to a lot of people. It's frustrating to some people, to me, because... I want a good rivalry. I want a good villain. And Scotty's like the anti-villain, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and to your point, in a lot of sports, and golf is right now currently, and I could be wrong, and somebody I'm sure will correct me if I'm in because I don't watch a ton of golf on the weekends, but just what I see even in the news and so on, Richard, it's become more where they're all friendly with one another. That's good, by the way. I'm not saying that's bad, but there doesn't seem to be that inner rivalry that there once was.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, and in sports in general, right? Like NBA, NFL, right? I don't think John Elway and Dan Murray, maybe they were. I don't know. You watched more of them. Were they close friends?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. In fact, there was a lot more rivalry, I think, even back then inside of sports. Now, I think once everything was all said and done, those guys became pretty good friends, and off the field was way different. But, man, on the field, no. I mean, they used to talk trash and all sorts of stuff, and that's what made it fun. And I think it still does at times.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and that's what I was just going to say, Dad, is I do feel like that there's a certain level that that has gone missing, right? The idea that you can not like each other on the court, right? You know, Michael Jordan and Isaiah Thomas and Larry Bird and Magic, and while they were good friends, when it came to on the court, on the course, on the field, they didn't really like each other. They wanted to rip the other guy's you know, hard out, right? He wanted to beat the other guys. And I just feel like sometimes there's a little bit too much friendliness going on. And like you say, it's not to say that you want to beat someone up or anything like that. You're not even trying to teach my boys that because, you know, they get frustrated and, you know, mad when something else goes on. But I also think that there's a healthy sense of, you know, harnessing, you know, anger or not resentment, but, you know, just kind of harnessing that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just the rivalry. Nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and I guess to your point, though, maybe Scottie's proving us wrong because that guy is just playing some of the best golf of anyone ever at this point in time. And it is just insane what he's doing. And, again, I know a lot of your listeners may not tune in, although I will say this, Dad. I know it's because of the time difference. It is nice. You know, you turned on the open if you're watching, like you're kind of watching a little bit of Sunday morning. But it's over by noon our time, you know, whatever, 11 o'clock noon.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you're watching later in the day, it's a replay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but then you have the rest of the day to do whatever you want to do. Right. It's kind of nice for that time zone, which, by the way, real quick, and you weren't even going to talk about this. I would make an argument that the mountain time zone is the best time zone to watch sports in.
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Now, we get messed up at times because they will do old – for example, the Nuggets may start at like 8.30 because I think sometimes TV execs think that we as the Mountain Time Zone Denver, we're like the West Coast. And it's like, no, we're not. So you start that game at 8.30. It's not 7.30, right? It is 7.30. 8.30 and it's late. You've got to stay up until almost 11 o'clock.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think to your point, what they tend to forget is East Coast, those guys, everything they do is late. They eat late. They do everything late. It's just their schedule and what they do. West Coast tends to be a little bit earlier. Well, we tend to be a little bit more West Coast-ish along those lines. Most people around here will eat dinner between 5 and 6. Not too many people eating out. I mean, you go to most restaurants and by 7, 7.30, things are already starting to wind down, even on a weekend, Richard, a Occasionally, you'll go someplace that'll be still wound up at 8 o'clock at night, but not very often around here.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, no, no. That high time is between 5 and 7, basically, right? That's right. You get your reservation, and then it starts to wind down. But I would say, kind of back to what I was saying, I would argue that we are the perfect time zone for sports in general because... Like you say, you can go to dinner at a reasonable hour, 5, 6 o'clock. Most of our games, even if they're home games, they start about 6.45 or maybe 7 o'clock. Even Monday night football for us starts at 6.30 or even Sunday night football starts about 6. So it's over by 9.30. You're on the East Coast. Some of those games. Midnight. Yeah, exactly. 11 o'clock midnight. And it's like, man, I'm already in bed by that point in time.
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Everything they do is late. Well, Charlie and I always say really quick, just talking about the Mountain Time Zone. We always say it's a forgotten time zone. I can't tell you how many times I tell a guest, you know, Mountain Time, Mountain Time, Mountain Time. And they call an hour early or an hour late because nobody knows that there's a Mountain Time Zone.
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Nope, they don't, and for those of you that are familiar, Joe in New York, and I know that John up in Cheyenne with his Giants and stuff, it's different, right? Like you say, they run differently on the East Coast, and you go back there, everything does start later, but yeah, most people don't remember the Mountain Time Zone. It's kind of forgotten, although I kind of like it, because we are kind of forgotten, but we also kind of end... And, like, right, you know, you can also be finishing up a call, you know, here at 4 o'clock, and if the guest is in California or somewhere like that, you can, it's still 3 o'clock for them, right? So you can still get an answer. And so, yeah, again, folks, and sometimes, you know, I don't plan these things, but I just think the Mountain Time Zone is a fun time to watch sports, in my opinion, because it sort of lets you get your sports watching in.
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Yeah.
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Even if you go to a game, and then you're still able to be home by 10 o'clock, in bed by 10, 15, and you're ready to go. But, no, like you said, that kind of backs what you're saying. Scottie, he is on a heater. If he keeps it up, he will go down as one of the greats. And, honestly, that golf has been looking for the next great one since Tiger. They tried to make it Rory. Yeah, he had a good year this last year at the Masters. He's just so inconsistent. But you get a really consistent golfer like Scottie Scheffler who, and if he does it the right way, which I think he is, golf may really benefit from that type of a player.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time of the week where we do car reviews. Richard, what have you driven lately?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, Dad, so drove a really fun car, a fun sedan. It is an EV. It is the Hyundai IONIQ 6. This was the limited version, which has the long range and the all-wheel drive with 20-inch wheels. Price, as it was tested, Dad, with no brakes, no EV credits, which we'll talk about actually after this review a little bit, about $56,000. Range on this vehicle, because that's something that you talk about a lot when we talk about the EVs, and the range on this was just over 300 miles, which is really good, Dad, for a car of this size, and it was really efficient. And some of you are going to say, well, of course, Richard, it's an EV, an electric vehicle. Of course it's efficient. Well, Dad, some of the other cars in this segment are, Maybe they might have a similar size battery, but they're just not as efficient. So they can maybe only go 270 miles or so on a full charge. This vehicle that fully charged can get you over 300 miles, which really is great, especially if you're able to charge this vehicle with an upgraded charger at your disposal. One nice feature, Dad, and we'll kind of get into the apportionments as far as that goes, is on this vehicle, if you wanted to and you met all of the right conditions, you can go from about 10% to 80% in 18 minutes. And so some of the things that we talk about as far as range anxiety and some of that, you can sort of, well, not completely remove, but really minimize some of those concerns depending on where you're driving this vehicle at, kind of the area with which you're in. This was first introduced out in 2023. Minor revisions kind of to this year. If you're over six foot tall, the headroom's a little bit, um funky especially in the rear seat even the the front row right we had walt in it he's about six foot four he had to kind of lean that seat way back but myself about five ten not any issues dad getting in and out of the car responsiveness was fantastic for those that haven't driven the evs dad you know they don't this one wasn't even i guess i would even call it a performance ev and you're right around there about four to five seconds from zero to sixty Really a fun car to drive. All the nice apportionments on the interior. The infotainment system that Hyundai's done works really, really well. Operates fantastically. You've got different drive modes, and you can feel the difference. It had an eco mode, a comfort mode, and then it had a sport mode, Dad, where you did feel the difference, and you could actually see the differences in terms of your range go down. If you put a little bit more
SPEAKER 03 :
oomph to the to the electric motors within that and so overall really impressed in that i kind of told you i was driving this car you looked you were kind of impressed with the looks it's a really good look yeah no it's not and i've driven one before they work very well like you say and you see these driving around uh town i mean again you start noticing different vehicles and especially if you're looking at certain vehicles and we know we're driving a vehicle i tend to pay more attention during it's funny when you're looking for something you see more of them than when you're not looking for them so yeah these are around you can see them And, again, I've driven them, and they, to your point, they work very, very well. Now, I want to add this in really quick, too, before – because folks are thinking about doing some things. We've talked about this in the program. I've already done this today when it comes to some of the different credits and things that are out there. There's also right now, currently – Zero 48-month financing on that particular unit. So that might be something else to think about if you're looking to do an upgrade on a new car. And we talked about this a little bit last week, Richard, too, comparing this without any credit. So after the September 30th deadline, this compared to other sedans, it frankly is right in the ballpark. If you look at how another sedan like this would be equipped on the gas engine counterpart, there's not a lot of price difference. It's about $5,000 is all.
SPEAKER 09 :
You are correct, Dad. And when you get the value that it brings and all of the apportionments, and we don't want to sit here and bore everyone with everything that it can give you, but you've got a heated steering wheel, for example. You've got dual auto temperature control, rain-sensing wipers. I think this one also had some heated and ventilated seats. And so you get a lot of creature comforts on this vehicle, Dad, a lot of storage, which is nice. The back end, again, it is a sedan, but I felt like it had ample storage. in the trunk space of this car, which was fantastic. But I would encourage folks that if you are in the market for that sedan, and I would consider it more on the luxurious side of things. I would, absolutely. Especially with the looks of it, and I've actually got a neighbor that drives one of this, and he loves it, and it's a fantastic car for him. like you said that we can't speak to every circumstance situation and people may be listening to this review later on but we will always encourage people get out test drive these vehicles if you can whether it's this model year again 2025 hyundai ionic 6 or a different model year they haven't made a ton of changes since 2023 encourage you to get out test drive this vehicle let them when you do that let them know that john and richard rush from drive radio and rush for reason sent you
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, and with everything, Richard, you just said a moment ago, I think it's also worth noting, and this will be where I talked about this earlier as to how do EVs, how will they stand up over the test of time? Will they make it? Will some make it? Will some not? And I do believe that there's going to be some manufacturers that embrace it that I think do very well. And by the way, I think this happens to be Hyundai, happens to be one of those that I think will do very well because they've actually embraced the EV thing and have done some things technologically speaking that – I think others have even borrowed from or copied, if you would. So I think they're going to be fine. I think they'll market well. They've got them priced well. I think they'll be fine. I do think there's some other manufacturers out there that will struggle. There's some that have kind of, quote, unquote, dabbled. And I don't want to name names, but maybe at some point you and I can get into that and rattle off some of the different names that are out there that, in my opinion, haven't gone full bore. Or maybe they think they have, but they definitely haven't marketed them full bore. It'll be interesting to see how that works, because I feel, Richard, some of them aren't going to make it. Some of these EVs that are being made by some manufacturers, they'll just go away.
SPEAKER 09 :
They will, and like you said, I think that the competition will prove that, and you're starting to see some of that with some of the credits going. Like you said, the credits are going to be going away, so these companies will figure out really quick, and they already know that, right? They already have the internal sales data, and they know which of their vehicles are selling well, and the vehicle we just mentioned, and like you said, Hyundai in particular, I'll just say that vehicle competes with the Tesla Model 3, right? We see a bunch of them running around all the time. One thing that that vehicle has, I'll say it, I think it looks better than a Model 3. And I think that some of these manufacturers can take advantage of that because you can do more. And maybe we talk about this a little bit greater in detail at some other point, Dan. You can do more with electric cars, right, because you do save space. You can do some different things with the body lines. You can do different things with more space, right? You can kind of configure the car a little bit differently than maybe an internal combustion counterpart. And I think some companies... Is that in other companies maybe played a little bit too safe, if that's a fair way of putting it?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I think that's right, and it's funny. If you go even do some searching on top EV companies, of course, BYD, which we don't talk about much here in America, which is a Chinese company, they have set the world on fire when it comes to EVs, and our tax credits and things that are happening here will have no effect upon them whatsoever. As you start rolling through, for example, I'll throw one out there that these guys aren't going to make it with EVs. I just don't think they will. Stellantis, which, of course, is Peugeot, Fiat, Jeep, Ram, they have dabbled in that market, have never been very strong in the market. If they survive that, Richard, I will be shocked.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and like you said, they may survive that in certain senses, or they may do some collaborations, but I think they're going to have to change their thought process. I think you hit the nail on the head, which is standalone, a lot of these companies may not stand on some of their standalone vehicles. Well, and I'll even say this, Dad, there are some standalone EV-only companies out there that may not make it themselves either. Lucid being one of them. Yep. Well, and I'll say it too, Rivian. I know a lot of people love their Rivians, but some of these companies have yet to make a profit.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'll be curious what happens now that some of these credits are going away.
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And happy Monday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Hopefully you had a fantastic weekend. Stayed cool through the hot weather that we have this time of the year. And, again, had an enjoyable weekend. And I did, so got a lot of stuff done and all the different text messages and things that come in over the weekend as well. Thank you for that. We had a great show on Saturday on Drive Radio. Got to talking about some things from the past. We have a remote coming up this coming Saturday. You'll hear more about that during the week. ahead, but Lepino Foods will be out there this coming Saturday. So for those of you that like going to car shows and doing all those things and like coming by and saying hi, we'll be out at Lepino Foods in West Denver on Saturday, at Northwest Denver, I guess I should say, on Saturday. And we'll have more information. You'll hear some promos and things through the week about that as well. Question of the day. Get things fired off. Friday's was, what happens to you when the moon is directly overhead? You weigh less. A 220-pound person will weigh .220462 pounds less because that's the same thing that happens to tides. In other words, the gravitational pull of the moon on the water, and we're made up of mostly water. That's why you weigh less when the moon is directly overhead. So today's question of the day, this one I wouldn't have guessed the last one, and I wouldn't guess this one as well. So the... Question of the day today is, what is the lifespan of a $1 bill? What is the lifespan of a $1 bill? And let me give everybody a hint. A lot less than you probably would think. In other words, they don't have much of a lifespan. That is, I believe, Charlie, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the number one printed currency we have in America because of the rate of how quickly we actually go through them, literally speaking, physically speaking, in other words. Charlie says 20 months, and I'll just give you a tip. He's not far off. So Charlie's answer is 20 months, and he is not that far off. So answer that on our social media page. And, yeah, a $1 bill in America gets like, well, here in America. Keep in mind there's $1 bills all around the world. Now, a lot of those will still find their way back here through various means and so on. But I've been in some foreign countries whereby – You look at some of the currency that they're using, American currency that they're using, and you can tell that they have been around a lot longer than 20 months. Let's just say that. So, in fact, not to get off track, but money in other countries can get really disgusting just as a – Side note, you actually almost want to keep it in a plastic bag and then put it inside of whatever it is you're traveling with because it gets rather nasty. Yeah, Charlie just said in my ear, and it does. It stinks, and it just gets nasty and disgusting. Anyways, that's the question of the day today. All right, I'm sure that you all saw... Over the weekend, and I don't watch a lot of news over the weekend. I will be the first one to admit I get off air on Saturday from Drive Radio at 1 o'clock, and I go and do other things, and I will be straight up honest. One of the last things I do is look at, watch the, you know, I don't watch any news ever. You guys all know that, but I don't watch the Sunday morning news. News circuit, I don't do any of that. I don't even pay a lot, other than you guys' text messages that may come through, and you may give me some information along those lines. I don't do much, even social media-wise or anything. I just, I'm kind of off of things from one o'clock on Saturdays until Monday mornings. I do that purposely to refresh and rejuvenate my brain. Plus, I just have a lot of other stuff going on that I usually have to do around my own house and just different things I need to do from being gone over six and a half days of the week I try to get some things done on the weekend. So you may or may not have seen this, but if you haven't, the DOJ has basically figured out through the course of looking at previous documents and so on that the Obama administration manufactured all of the Russian weapons. collusion hoax that we now know as a hoax, which the news media at the time wouldn't admit to being a hoax. They were dead set on it being very, very true and promoted it as such. And reality is it is being determined now through – Fact finding, I guess you could say, and some would say, well, why didn't they figure this out, you know, way back when during Trump's first term? Keep in mind, Trump had a lot of things going on as a first term, first ever really kind of not only, you know, first term president, but first really ever in politics in that regard. You know, to give him a little bit of a of a of some grace is maybe the way to say that for his first term. A lot of folks that become president. Joe Biden, he's a great example. Even Obama, even though Obama was a first-term kind of junior president, I guess you could say, keep in mind he'd been groomed in the political end of things the majority of his life. And I don't think there's any secrets here, was groomed for the presidency. from the way he gave speeches to what he did as a community organizer and and and he was groomed for that position so he he was ready for that from day one donald trump is not that person we we all know that in by the way thankfully so so during his first term he didn't have some of the insight that he has now it's why you're seeing a whole different cabinet and staff and people that he surrounded himself with and so on everything is different this time around than it was the first time in fact Not that I like Joe Biden being president for four years because it did a lot to screw things up. I will say that I do think that four year stint of Donald Trump being able to sit back and look at some of the things maybe he did wrong the first time around. And if I can get back in the second time around, here are the things that I will do differently. And to his credit, he has done that. And again, like Donald Trump or not, he's not the same president this time that he was the first time. He's doing a lot more things that are effective this time than he was last time. So to answer the question that some might have, why didn't we figure this out the first time around? Well, because of what... I just said. But the Justice Department confirmed today that it's received Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard's criminal referral related to her bombshell claims that the Obama-era officials manufactured and politicized intelligence to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election. That was confirmed by Fox News, by the way. The DOJ declined further comment, but confirmed to Fox News that the department received the referral. Now, where is this going to go from here? There's been all sorts of things that I've watched on social media today talking about how even some of the Supreme Court rulings of late does not give Obama immunity whatsoever. over potentially treason in this particular case, when you do these sorts of things and you're trying to undermine the country, which is essentially what he was doing, could he be brought up on treason charges? Well, could he be? Possibly. Will he be? I'm just giving you my two cents. Highly doubtful. Highly doubtful. Now, will this expose a lot of things that happened under his watch, under his regime, and so on? I believe it will, yes. Will Obama go to prison? Folks, I'm sorry. No. And as much as I would like to see him go, because I think he's a very corrupt and manipulating individual, no, I don't think he will. Sorry. Just being straight up honest, I don't think he will. Will a lot of things get exposed, like I said a moment ago, and will some things be brought to light, and will it change some folks' opinion of things? Possibly. I'll say this. It'll only change those folks that are maybe in the middle and even in the middle that lean more to the right that are in the middle. Will the hardcore lefties change their mind about anything? No. They'll just claim this is a big witch hunt from the Trump administration to the previous administrations. That's all you'll see a hardcore lefty say with this. You're not going to change their mind on any of this. In fact, what I would say is we should probably be a little bit careful as to how we proceed. We, as in the conservatives on the right, how do we proceed? Because if you're not careful, you could wind up doing the same thing that the left did to Trump, which in a lot of ways helped him get reelected. So my point is that old saying, be careful what you wish for. As conservatives, be careful what you wish for. Now, do I think we should expose the Obamas, the administration, the things that they did in their corrupt ways? Yes. Do I think we should go to their home and do to Obama what the left did to Donald Trump? No, I do not think that. No. Should we bring him on trial and go through all of that rigmarole? No, I don't think so. And again, because of what I said a moment ago, be careful what you wish for. Because again, the left could very well use that as a springboard to help their side, not only in 2026, but in 2028 as well. So that's where I'm saying that, yes, I think it's important to bring these things to light. I think Tulsi's doing a great job. I think that's fabulous that she's digging into some of this and finding out more of this information. And I'll throw this in really quick. To me, this is far more important than Epstein. Way more. A, it's way more current. And B, we'll have a lot more, I think, effect upon what, you know, showing what the left does and how corrupt they really are than anything we could drag out of Epstein. That's my opinion. Some of you are going to differ with me on that. But to me, this is far more important. Now, how we handle this, like I said a moment ago, I also feel is very important because, again, we need to be really careful what we do here. I think it's great to bring all these things to light, but do we do anything in regards to going after Obama for treason? No. Even though it is, and I know a lot of you are going to say, well, geez, John, how do we keep people accountable if we're not going to do that? Keep in mind, actions have consequences. just like what the left did to Donald Trump. So be careful, again, what you wish for. Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. We'll take a quick break and come right back. Don't forget, Dave Hart is there to take care of not only your roof, residential, commercial. 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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John and Cheyenne, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 13 :
John, I don't want to ever see any of my presidency have be put on trial for anything i think it's a disgrace either way you know let history and public influence judge obama kind of like it did nixon i mean nixon you know after he resigned he was never the same he disappeared and that's what i'd like to see what happened to obama if this comes out that he did order it all Let him just disappear.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you for saying that, John. I agree with you wholeheartedly because this will come out. It's a matter of what all gets opened up and relayed and so on, and depending upon how deep and how bad this is, which frankly I think is pretty deep and bad, I think you could be exactly right on what happens. You may see the very end of him being even out in public much, and you might just see him kind of just slip away.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. But, no, first I want to see them do it right. Empower a grand jury, bring in Brennan, bring in Clapper, bring in Comey, bring in Susan Rice, Lee Simonico, all of the insiders, and get a grand jury and see what the grand jury says. Because one of those, if the grand jury hands down indictments – one of those will flip and rat on everybody else. It's which one would do it first. It's just based on what they've done in the past, one of them is not going to risk jail time to keep quiet.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can't argue with you on that one. And again, it's just going to be a matter of, as you know, John, just a matter of, you know, what actually gets opened up. How deep did this go? You know, was Obama smart enough to insulate himself in any ways? In other words, can he come back and say, well, you know, I approved X, Y, and Z. I can't do his accent, but, you know, I approved X, Y, and Z, but I didn't approve ABC.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. And that would be his, unless somebody who's in the room with him, if he did it, comes out and says, no, I was sitting there in the same room. He said it. He said do it, which is all conjecture right now because we don't have the full thing. Right. But what I'm saying is we have to have some follow through. Do you remember? Are you old enough to remember the Watergate hearings?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. I remember being a kid watching them. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And they were on. And they got to the truth. Why? Because. What did Charles Coulson say in prison? What did Chuck Coulson? About secrets?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't remember now.
SPEAKER 13 :
What is his quote? He said what made him a Christian was we couldn't hold a secret for three weeks, and the apostles took their belief that Jesus was the Lord. Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and by the way, for a lot of you listening, that's really sort of our mantra here, you know, on our program. One of the things that Charlie has taught me over the years is, you know, basically, you know, Charlie, you know, his two words are people talk. In other words, to your point, John, people can't keep secrets, especially when the pressure is on. And it's why I say even things along the lines of Epstein and so on. You know, people talk if they were really, you know, some of the things that I think some conservatives want to be there, if they really existed, they'd already be out in the open.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah. Well, and here's the other thing I said about Epstein. Ninety one indictments, thirty four convictions, two impeachments. And how many federal investigations? If Trump's name was anywhere where he could have been prosecuted for Epstein, he would have been.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
During the last four years. There's nothing there. Yes, was Epstein a New York billionaire?
SPEAKER 03 :
doing these things before and i think and he hasn't you know he you know he was never charged this way epstein wasn't but and i've said it before because i i believe this i mean not only was he a dirty rotten scoundrel in regards to the island and all the things that were going on there that shouldn't have been and so on but he was basically john in a lot of ways running a pyramid scheme if you would in other words he was getting this one to pay for that one to pay for the last one and If you really want to get down to it, that's essentially, you know, frankly, I'm not so sure he shouldn't have been on trial for that more so than the other. I think it was easier to get him on the ladder because in the in the vote of public approval, if you would, the latter is much worse than the prior.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, absolutely. But going back to this whole thing, I want to see it play out over the next six months. Convene. I'm hoping that. The attorney general has whoever, probably be the D.C. court or whoever's running D.C. for the attorney general's office, convene a grand jury, a federal grand jury, and present all the evidence and let it go where it may. That's the only way we would get honesty out of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And this is one of those where, John, I'm going to agree with you on this one because this is different than the Epstein situation because, A, it's a lot more pertinent to what's going on today inside the Democrat Party. It's not just an individual scumbag that, frankly, probably had – had clients on both sides of the aisle. This is directly related to what the party on the left does. And I think between that and then going even farther, which there's some things out today in regards to, you know, Joe Biden being on Ambien during the last debate, which was pretty apparent he was on something. I mean, those are the things, frankly, that I want to see us dig into. Not the Epstein. I'm sorry. Not the Epstein files. Those to me. are not as important as the two things we're talking about right now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. I want to know who covered for Joe Biden the last year he was in office because he was not there.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, in fact, probably, John, let's, you know, knowing, again, having personal knowledge, and this is by no means trying to be disrespectful to anybody, You know, my own father, who I love dearly, saw him today. But I will tell you, John, after being with him and watching his progression and watching what happens to those individuals, I would go back and say that it's probably we probably need to go back two years with Joe Biden to find out who was really starting to step in two years ago, because looking at the progression, Joe will be in some sort of memory care within the next 12 to 18 months. Mark my words.
SPEAKER 13 :
Either that or they'll hire enough people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, when I mean memory care, it may not be in a facility, but somebody will be with him 24-7.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we have a morning radio show out of Cheyenne, Casper, and he talks about how he took four years off of his radio career to go take care of his father who was dying of dementia. And he said, He was saying in 2020, 2021, that's the early stages I saw of my father.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I can relate very much to what he's saying, and he is exactly right. And again, our family, we have seen the exact same things. And I think, by the way, John, I think anybody that's had family members in a similar situation can speak to that. You know, I'm not he's not I'm not the only ones that can speak to that. In fact, I think therein lies the problem. I think there's a lot of people out there that know firsthand what we've gone through and can relate that right back to Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And, you know, you got it. You got to feel bad for the guy going through this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because, as you know, and I had I didn't have a immediate family, but I had, you know, close family that went through it. It's hard on the person because all of a sudden. They don't know what's going on. Then they become cognizant and they realize and they're you know, it's really hard on them emotionally. And you said I'm sure you see it with your dad.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and it's funny that you say that, because even while Joe Biden was president and going through some of these things, I said some of those very same things you just said on air that, you know, my heart goes out to him individually while. I don't respect and or agree with all of the things he even stood for before he got to that stage. Being in that stage, yeah, that is not a fun place to be for anyone, and especially those that are around him. And, yes, my heart in that particular situation goes out to him and his family.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I just want to know on this Barack Obama, if he was involved, and I want to know who was in charge of Joe Biden. I don't care about Epstein anymore. What are they going to do? Twenty years ago, a guy went to an island, and he's going to deny and say anyway, oh, well, they said she was 18, so I didn't know she was 15.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And, John, thank you for saying that because that's my other fear is you're going to have a lot of finger pointing, even if, and I don't think it'll get to that point, but even if it got to the point of what you're saying, you're exactly right. You'd have all sorts of finger pointing that, well, I didn't know that she was that old. She didn't look that old and blah, blah, blah, or that young, I should say, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're going to have a lot of the he said, she said stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
And how many of these young girls who have been traumatized and they're now recovering from their lives, are going to want to relive it by going and testifying in an open court.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, here's the other thing. First of all, are they from this country? Who knows where these girls even are? Highly doubtful they're from the United States of America, and that brings in a whole other dilemma of how do you even find these individuals.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's, you know, it was a mistake. for Bondi to say what she said six months ago to realize that there isn't really a list or anything?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and backing up, and you're correct, John. You are 1,000% correct. But let me remind everybody, and this is the problem that happens with a lot of politicians in general. It even happens to Donald Trump, and he's the president of the United States. You saw the same thing happen. I hate to say this, but you just saw a big trial here in Denver with Mike Lindell. A lot of these people... they listen so hard, so hardcore to their followers, to their supporters, to their quote-unquote believers, that they start to even get somewhat mesmerized, John, by the movement, by the people that are involved. Instead of being straight away, looking forward, not letting all these people around them distract them one way or the other, the problem is that's really, really, really hard to do, and you've seen it even with the Bonginos, the Yeah, you can't do anything about it.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, they got hooked in. Maybe they thought there was more than there was. They found out it was, you know, there is no smoking gun. And now they have to, you know, just regret it, I guess would be the term.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I'm afraid that, yeah, that is the case. And again, this is my analysis. You know, John, it's me talking. I don't know those people individually. I don't know Bongino. I don't know Patel. I've interviewed both of them in the past, but I don't know them individually. I don't know Bondi. I've never spoken to her. Don't know Donald Trump personally. I've never spoken to him. But I do know that the way... movements and things work. And I think, again, a great example of that of late here in Denver, especially is the whole Mike Lindell end of things. I really feel like and I think Mike's a really great, genuine guy. But I think he got wrapped up with a lot of individuals that not only sucked him dry of money, but steered him in the wrong direction. Yeah, well, I still have my pillow. And it's great pillow, by the way.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, absolutely. I love it.
SPEAKER 03 :
But really quick, John, I think it's one of those things that even us as supporters, we have to be very careful to make sure that we are always looking at a constant in our own lives, not letting any type of news article, politician, anything else out there. sway us one way or the other we need to be our own people is my point and not get caught up in a in a you know quote unquote movement and that's one of the fears that i have in general especially on our side happens on the left as well so it's you know we're not the only ones that can go through this the other side can't as well it's a human behavioral trait that happens but we have to be really careful to not have that affect us
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, that's one of the things that comes with age is the wisdom to know you can't believe most of anything and you have to do your own research.
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You know, again, not to sound morbid, but I was just telling Charlie through the break, there was a story I was reading right before coming on air where a gentleman went in for cataract surgery, and the doctors, nurses, and so on, you know, anesthesiologists, the doctor doing the surgery, there's always assistants. It sounds to me like there was probably five, six people in the room. They're all playing music bingo. In other words, if a song comes on and it starts with a B, then it's, you know, you get it. B-I-N-G-O. You understand how bingo works. Well, they played music bingo, and I guess they do this from time to time as they're all in there doing surgeries and so on. It had never had any issues. Well, guess what? Somehow they kept turning, somebody was turning the alarms off that were basically alarming the staff that this guy was in cardiac arrest and they didn't really notice anything until he turned blue. I'm guessing because they were all distracted playing music bingo. Now, cataract surgery is supposed to be like a 10, 15-minute procedure. You're in, you're out, not a big deal. Point with Michael Bailey a moment ago, you never know. And I'm not trying to make light of this situation or make fun of it. It's very serious what happened. And I was just telling Charlie during the break that these are medical professionals and these things shouldn't happen. But guess what, folks? They do. Stuff happens. Mistakes happen. They shouldn't, but they do. So point being, when it comes to Michael Bailey, not to belabor that, but you just never know. Make sure your stuff's in order. So if something were to ever happen, you've at least got everything dialed. And even in his case, you know. even if he would have had some sort of a recovery of that but maybe he's not totally you know not totally capable after that do you have your living wills and power of attorneys and all those sorts of things are all of those things done and ready to go because if not it makes for a real real messy situation in times like that so again just add back in michael bailey to that because you just never know and make sure things are dialed in but back to what we were talking about with John from Cheyenne and, you know, the election interference, the potential election. It sounds like literal election interference because they manufactured the entire Russian hoax. So it really was election interference. And even things were happening after Trump was elected. And then who was in charge when Joe Biden was not himself, which I believe was the second half of his presidency. How cognizant was he during the first half? I don't know. I have to go back and look at some tapes and different things. And so I personally think fairly cognizant because the way that disease works is this is the other thing that most people don't know. But the way that disease works is you can have very, very cognizant times where anybody around you wouldn't know you had a thing wrong. But an hour later, that person could be in a totally different world. They literally can be like in La La Land. I have no other way to describe it. They're not there. Their mind just, and sometimes you could literally be speaking to them, and they can be cognizant one sentence, and this is not an exaggeration, the next sentence. So you add something back in, and they can come back with some response where you're just wondering, where did that come from? And again, folks, I've experienced these things firsthand, so I'm not trying to talk bad about anybody, Joe Biden especially. It's a disease, and it's the way that disease works. You've heard me interview folks on Wednesdays on health and wellness talking about Alzheimer's and dementia and the things that happen. And why no one on the Biden side of things has admitted to any of this yet, I think it's because they realize that if they did, A lot of what he may have done in the last year or so of his presidency, you might have to go back and redo. It's probably why they're not saying anything. That's my prediction, my guess as to what's going on. Because when they're signing and doing things, when they're not really mentally there all of the time, now it's a matter of were they mentally there when they signed X or were they not there? Because those types of individuals, the other thing is, depending upon the individual, you can coax them into doing all sorts of things that they may not do otherwise because they're not cognizant of what's going on around them. So I don't want to get into a lot of details and depth. And any of you that have had family members or you've cared for anybody along those lines, you know exactly what I'm talking about. But reality is I have no idea where Joe's at on that timeline. The family has been extremely, extremely vague on where he is on that timeline for obvious reasons. I am thoroughly convinced that part of why they pulled him out and allowed Kamala to run was because of that and no other reason. After his one debate, they just realized how bad it was and that he was not going to be able to continue on. And there was no way he was going to finish things out all the way down the back stretch. It just wasn't going to happen. And somebody finally decided to pull the plug. And I truly believe it's because of the disease he has and no other reason. And they've not admitted that yet. Now, here's my prediction. And I think I'm going to be pretty spot on on this condition or on this particular prediction. At some point, his whole condition will come out. Somebody internally, because like Charlie says, people talk. At some point, somebody will make a book. It'll maybe even turn into a movie as to what he was actually doing at that time. And by the way, that might be a decade down the road or more. But that will come out at some point where people will talk about what actually happened in his presidency. And I do predict that will come out. Now, I do believe that they will keep a lid on that as long as they possibly can. And those that have really bought into that particular regime, you know, bought into that end of things, they will not say anything. They're sworn to secrecy and won't say anything until X time has passed. But once that time has passed, mark my words, somebody will say something. Yeah, well, that's the other thing Charlie just said. Once he passes away, yeah, it'll all come out then. Because at that point, what's done is done. The only thing about that, Charlie, that I would ask is if he expires, let's say he passes away in the next couple of years and some of that is still soon enough that you would have to go back in and redo some things that he did at the end of his presidency. Maybe not. That would be the only caveat to that would be, you know, when when when would he pass? And the problem is no one knows. There are folks that have Alzheimer's and dementia that can live a very long time with that disease and live a very healthy and long life. They just don't have their wits about them, I guess you could say. And some don't do very well because, well, at late stages of Alzheimer's and dementia, they tend to not want to eat correctly. They lose weight in turn because of that. Their taste buds actually change as time goes by. They no longer want the normal things that they used to like. In fact, in late stages, Alzheimer's, they become to where they really like. This is what's so ironic. They get to the point where they like very sugary things. which is the opposite of what they need because the disease they have, sugar, is actually making it worse. But that's what they crave. And how do I know this? Because I'm going through this right now. So these are things that happen that, by the way, most people don't know because they've never been through it. And I get it. Every case of Alzheimer's is a little bit different. But a lot of these things are pretty routine. And so it's a matter of where is Joe, Joe Biden, in this timeline? Because I can tell you right now, I'm not a doctor, but he has got every single indicator that he has some sort of Alzheimer's and dementia, if not both combined, and I would say that he's in the later stages of. And I'm not a doctor, but I've seen enough of it where I can tell you that that's where he's at. So at some point, this will all come out. And I'm like John from Cheyenne a moment ago. I'm more concerned about that, what happened in the later stages of his presidency, decisions that were made, pardons that were made, things along those lines. I'm more concerned about that and then what was going on here with Obama and the Russian hoax. I would rather know about that than Epstein. That's just me. Some of you I know would argue with me on that, but that's me. I think that's a lot more pertinent what's going on with the country today than some of the other stuff. So I'll take a break. Come back. I got more to talk about here during this first hour. We do have guests joining us here throughout the rest of the show. I apologize. I should have mentioned that we've got a guest joining us at four o'clock and another one at five o'clock as well. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning is going to be up next, and it's hot right now. It's still 94 degrees. It doesn't look as hot outside because of the way the atmosphere, the way the clouds look, but it is hot. 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Got an interesting text from somebody a moment ago, which this one I can't argue with whether this would pan out or not. I don't know. But in the Russian hoax situation with Obama, if it came down to where it looked like he was going to end up being, you know, tried and all of that, of course, he'd have to be tried. You'd have to have a full bore. you know, jury trial and so on for him to be convicted. And then Trump would come in afterwards and pardon him. Yeah, that's a fantastic idea. I don't know that it would ever get to that point, nor do I. I'll just be honest. I don't want it to get to that point. I want it all. I want all the dirty laundry out there. I want the world to know what the Obama administration did at that time, him and all of his cronies. So I want that to be made known. I'm like John, though. I don't know that I want a previous president on trial saying, no more than I wanted Trump going through some of the things that he went through. I don't want that. I think those are black marks on the country that we don't need. On the same token, I think Obama is a very sleazy, and I've always said this, I think he's a very sleazy individual. And do I want him to be held accountable for some of the things that he did when he was in office? Absolutely. It's a matter of how is all of that done. All right. I hate doing this because, you know, I hear different people from time to time that are out there. And I don't want to spend much more time on this because I spent a lot on it already, not only here on this program, but on Drive Radio as well. But there's a lot of talk right now about EVs. And everybody's wondering, you know, what's going to happen with them. A federal judge ruled that Donald Trump doesn't have the power to withhold money from the EV charge stations that a lot of the states, Colorado included, are going to be putting money into. And that money has been withheld. There's lawsuits going that direction and so on. I frankly don't think we should spend any money on that taxpayer money. on that. If those things are going to survive, they should survive on their own without us putting them in. Gas stations don't get money, don't get my tax money to be put up and installed. The come and goes and Mavericks and so on that you see getting put up all around town, that's not being put up with your tax dollars. Those are being put up because of capitalism. And I think that charge stations should be the exact same way. I don't think we should be funding those. But there's all sorts of questions on, you know, what's the future of EV and so on. I'm going to talk a little bit more about this later in the program as well because I was talking to some folks over the weekend about this. But as I was listening even to some of the programs that are on air, not only here but on other stations and so on, I'll just tell you straight up. There are a lot of quote-unquote car experts, and I think they are experts when it comes to the automotive industry. Although I will say this, they're not EV experts. They act like they are, and they give a lot of information out that would make you think that they are, but I'll just tell you straight up from listening to them, not only as a car guy myself, and I've been in the auto industry my entire life, and to a large extent still am, but not only that, I've owned EVs since 2020. Again, something most journalists, even car journalists, don't do. Some do, and there are some good ones out there that own EVs, and I think they can speak to what I'm going to talk about here in the same way that I am. But unfortunately, there's a lot of folks inside of the car world, the car journalism world, and so on, that are quote-unquote experts. but not on EVs. And the reason I say that is because they'll get asked questions at different times, and the answers they give, I'll just tell you straight up, are flat wrong. They're not correct. For example, how long does it take to charge an EV? And here's the answer. It depends. And some of you are going to say, what do you mean, John? It depends. And what I mean by that is it depends on... Literally, not only the type of charging station that you're using, but its amperage, because even in a level two charger, which is a 240 volt charger, even those can be 30, 40 or 50 amp chargers. And by the way, some of them can be the charger itself can accommodate 30 volts. 40 or 50 amp but it depends upon the wiring in the home what's the home able to provide and so on so even though it can be up to a 50 amp charger that doesn't mean it's going to charge at 50 amps in fact in some cases it may not even be able to charge much above 20 or 25 amps And the chargers, by the way, will tell you what they charge at, what their rate is. They're all very sophisticated as far as that goes. But when somebody asks, you know, how long does it take to charge an EV? And they give some answer back of, well, you know, it takes, you know, all night long to charge your EV. That's not really the right answer. And by the way, that tells me that's a non-EV owning expert that's trying to give you an expert opinion on EVs. So it really does come down to what is your – if you have a level 2 charging station, which is, again, runoff of 240 volt, Depending upon how that's wired, how far from the breaker panel it is, what gauge wire they used, what kind of breakers in it, and so on, it'll have a lot to do with what capacity the charger will even charge at. Now, some chargers you buy a 30-amp, 40-amp, or 50-amp, depending upon its setup. Some of them have the ability. I have one that has the ability to regulate between each one of those. But I'll just tell you, in my case, I've got it set because of a lot of the things I just mentioned. Mine's 30-amp. I don't have a 50 amp charger. Mine's 30. So depending upon your EV, and this is the other factor that comes into play. It depends on the EV, by the way. What size of battery does it have? In other words, the heavier the vehicle and the heavier, I'm being as simplified here as I can. But the heavier the vehicle and the heavier the battery system, the longer it's going to take to charge it up to full capacity. Because, again, it's like a gas tank. That battery is like a gas tank. The larger the tank, the longer you sit at the pump. Think of it that way. EVs are no different. The larger the battery... And the more capacity it has to drive that vehicle further, then the longer it's going to take, depending upon if you're on a level two charging 120 volt, you'd be there forever. So don't even think about level one charging. But level two charging, even out of your garage or at some place that has level two capacity, you could spend quite a little bit of time and money filling up, quote unquote, recharging one of the larger SUVs, etc., that now are on the marketplace, and you take like a Hummer, for example, you take one of the Hummer EVs, yeah, that one could very easily take you all night to charge up. Now, in my case, where I've got a Chevy Equinox that's Not on the low end scale. It's not like a Nissan Leaf, but it's not a Hummer. That particular vehicle, I can typically get about 50 miles or so, 40 to 50 miles an hour out of a charge. So if it's got a 200 mile range, do the math. There you go. That's how long it takes to charge. And these are things, by the way, that I think when people ask specific questions, they want specific answers. But a lot of these journalists, I'll just tell you straight up, they don't know because they don't own one. And even when they've test drove one, depending upon how they're recharging their vehicle, their test vehicle, they have no idea some of the things I just mentioned. And then on top of that, some vehicles, not all, because some EVs, this is an option. Some EVs have what we call fast charging, which is DC charging. As I said many times, the batteries on any EV are all direct current DC. They're DC batteries. That's the only way you can do it. There is no other option. They're not AC. They're DC. So if you have AC power that you're trying to charge your DC batteries with, the car itself has the ability to convert from AC to DC to charge the DC batteries. Now, if you find the right charging station, and there's very few of these at a home because they're super expensive. Yes, some very wealthy people have DC chargers, and I mean very wealthy people because when I'm talking expense-wise, a DC charger is somewhere. I'd have to look to get new figures on this. I don't think that's changed much, but you're probably $25,000 to put in a DC charger. It's half as much as the vehicle you bought. Very few people are going to spend that kind of money to do that. And some fleets will do that because they've got the ability then to charge their fleet vehicles up much faster. But very, very, very few people that own EVs have a DC charger, fast charger. But like here at the station, they just Charlie and I watched him build a fast charge station. Tesla owns it. It's literally out our back window here at the station in the parking lot of the H Mart, which is directly west of us here at the station. They just put in, I think, a dozen stations. I want to say Charlie roughly 16. OK, so 16. I didn't count them, but 16 stations. So they just put in 16 stations. Those are D.C. stations. Those, you know, some of these guys that are rolling into those stations, they can roll in there. And I don't know exactly how the Tesla system works as far as the charging and what it costs and so on. But they can roll in there and do a complete recharge in probably at most half an hour to an hour, depending upon where. who else is there and how much other draw is happening and so on. But I can tell you right now, Charlie, we're looking at that. That was probably, and I don't think I'm exaggerating, that was probably a quarter million dollar investment they put in down here just below the station. And I'm not exaggerating when I say that. By the time they put in all the infrastructure, the transformer, all the things that they needed to make that happen, I guarantee you, the parking lot, the installation itself, I mean, we watched them do all of that. I guarantee you it's at least 200 grand if it's a nickel to put that in. Same reason why you don't see those in a home situation. So when people say, well, how long is it going to take to charge? Keep in mind that almost every homeowner is going to be using a level two charger and you need to use level two rates when you tell someone how long it's going to take to charge that vehicle. Now, for most people, they sleep at night. They're home an easy 10, 12 hours. And if that's how long it takes to get your vehicle recharged, for most people, not a big deal. Not a huge issue. So again, depending upon how you use your EV, how many miles you travel and so on, you may not even have to charge every night. There's a lot of folks, my wife included, that only charges up every, I don't know, third or fourth day, depending upon how much driving she does. So I just want to make sure there's, I want to make some corrections, I guess I should say, on some folks that are out there that when these questions get asked and they really don't give the right answers, um please ask me if you have any questions along those lines and you want to know some of these things specifically i can help you with that and then of course the last thing and i'll get into this probably an hour either hour two or hour three will be you know how how long do these all last and how well do they sell once the september 30th date comes and there's no more federal 7500 tax credit for them so that and solar i may get into a little bit later in the show depending on how things go All right, that's it for this segment. We'll be back in a moment. Paul Leuenberger is up next. 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All right, we are back, and I just got a long email from somebody asking me my feelings on as we get into winter, which doesn't seem, it seems like a long ways off, but actually it's not as far off as you think, asking me about tire, tire choices and so on. For all of you that are in the car end of things, it doesn't matter that you're a daily listener here, you listen on Saturday, whatever, I don't care. If you have a car question, by all means, 307-200-2700. 8222, or just go to any of my websites, click the Contact Us, send me an email, and I'll get you answered that way as well. Any car question at all, always here to help. Love helping out as far as that goes as well. We'll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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I'm a rich guy.
In this episode, Bill Gundersen breaks down the state of energy stocks with an in-depth look at solar and natural gas. As solar developments make headlines, Bill discusses their long-term impact on data centers and the broader energy market. He also shares intriguing insights into companies shifting their business models towards Bitcoin investments. Plus, stay tuned for the latest updates on stock performance across various sectors.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Tuesday morning. It is July the 22nd edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson broadcasting from an unknown remote location somewhere in the continental U.S. We have a mixed market so far here this morning with the NASDAQ down. I'm seeing the AI stocks under pretty heavy pressure this morning. The NASDAQ is down 83 basis points right now, or 172 points. I've got to believe that there's a little bit of a downgrade taking place there. And, you know, it's a very crowded trade also. The Dow, on the other hand, is up 57. Got some earnings reports from Coca-Cola, Philip Morris, a few others. The Dow closes in on a new all-time high. The S&P is down 18 points to 6,287. The Russell 2000 is flat right now. The 10-year Treasury interest rates are pretty flat right now. The 10-year right now is at 4.36, so down a little bit. We've got gold up again today. It had a very strong day yesterday. Good day for the gold stocks yesterday. Gold is up another two-thirds of a percent today. Silver, which has been on a tear. It's getting very close to $40 per ounce, $39.49. And Bitcoin is up $819,000 to $119,504. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show on this Tuesday, July the 22nd. This is Bill Gunderson, professional money manager for the last 25 years, and I'm here with Barry Tite, our chartered financial analyst. And, Barry, we saw new all-time highs yesterday in the NASDAQ, which was up 78 points, the S&P up 9, but we're seeing some heavy selling pressure today. I've got to believe there's some kind of influential market analyst calling some kind of, you know, issues or warnings maybe on the very crowded AI trade.
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Well, and valuations too, right? I mean, you've hit it for a couple of months now just in terms of where valuations are and the reason to be cautious given the experience we've seen in the past when you get some elevated PE ratios.
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Yes, and it's a very crowded trade. Now, the question is, and the key to all of this is, is nobody knows how high momentum will carry these stocks, this sector, whether it's the nuclear sector, whether it's the AI sector, whether it's the chip sector. The valuations are definitely very, very rich right now. And the thing that's keeping those stocks afloat is momentum. And we know that momentum is a fleeting thing. You know, a football team can have some great momentum. A horse can have some great momentum. And it doesn't take much to lose that momentum. And once you lose it, it's kind of hard to get it back. So, you know, the momentum for me shows up mostly in the charts on a daily basis. That's why I always watch the upwards progress of these charts. But at the same time, I'm looking below what's underneath at very important support levels. And cracks through those support levels many times are the beginning of that loss of momentum. So we have to watch this very, very carefully. We have to be on our toes all the time, especially as valuations get high. You know, you could have thrown a dart back on March 8th of this year when we had the S&P at 4,800. Most people, even the most loftiest target prices on the S&P 500 this year were maybe around 6,300, and that's where we are. And we've still got a little under six months left to go in the year, Barry. Now, I am seeing some growth. revisions higher in the S&P 500, but some of them are ridiculous. I saw, for instance, Jeffries today raising their target price for this year on the S&P 500 to $5,800.
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I saw that yesterday, and I was like, do we need to catch up? $5,800, like, what do they expect, right? Of course, they're using...
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you know type of uh we better we look pretty silly with our current valuation we better up at some and they're using a 20 pe too by the way so that's uh you know that's yeah and the market's using a 22 right now and that's too rich how long can the market maintain that 22 that that's the big guess you know i've seen it go to 30 before uh but again that's why we watched that uh That's why we watch those charts every single day. It pays to be a chart watcher, and it pays to be a guy who does valuations on all the stocks in the market that you're able to do a valuation on. Well, you know what? We've got the Fed. Has he spoke already? That was at 8.30 a.m. That could be what's upsetting the market, too, here today. You had Jerome Powell. speaking at 8.30 a.m. Now, that could be part of why the market's down, the NASDAQ and the high flyers. And then at 1 p.m., you're going to get the Fed's Bowman speech. He's one of the guys out there. And they definitely influence the markets and any kind of negativity on rate hikes or rate cuts coming in between now and the end of the year, most of the market expecting two. But when those guys speak, the market definitely does react. Okay, after the close tomorrow, is tomorrow Tesla's earnings? I believe it is.
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Yep, we'll get Tesla, and I think we get Google at the – I think it's at the close tomorrow, if I'm not mistaken. But, yeah, you had – looking, of course, your headline of the newsletter this week in terms of earnings off to a hot start. I think you had 90% of companies beat estimates last week, and we've got 125 total companies – reporting this week in the S&P 500. Busy week of earnings and a good blend. It's not just the financials like we usually start out with in terms of earnings. We get a couple of magnificent seven companies in terms of Tesla and Google this week, and we get a lot of Raytheon, RTX, and we get a number of defense names, consumer names all across the board this week, so it'll be interesting.
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Yeah, and today we've already gotten quite a few consumer staples, and I was joking with my wife yesterday. I said, you know, all those stocks that I bad mouth, uh, not that they're bad companies. They're just single digit. Yeah. We had a bunch of them transfer in yesterday. Like I've been monitoring 153 stocks that we own across the board here at Gunderson capital. And yesterday I saw 183 was the, was the list. I go, Oh, somebody transferred in a bunch of stocks. I won't mention any names obviously, but, uh, And guess what? I told my wife, I said, this poor guy must have been listening to my radio show and looking at his portfolio and seeing, oh, that's one Bill hates. Oh, that's another one. He either called his broker and said, hey, pal, you know what? You got me in all these soggy stocks. I'm moving on. Or he did it to himself. I don't know. But all the usual names were there, Procter & Gamble and the And the like. I could go on and on. But anyways, I told my wife, you know what? Our message resonates. And, you know, unfortunately, the vast majority of investors out there, if you're with one of these big nationwide firms, they're in all of these 2%, 3% growth stocks. Growth goes in the quotation marks. I don't really call it 2% or 3% growth stock. I call it a dividend payer. That's pretty much what that is. And usually that slow growth shows up in the returns of the stock. And we'll have a few examples today. Coca-Cola, for instance, reported today. We'll take a look at their track record on what they've performed, what they've done to investors other than energize them in the morning with their Diet Coke That's certainly helpful, but as an investor, I want to see some returns in my stocks, too. Anyways, we're also going to get, I saw a few other interesting ones tomorrow. GE Vernova. Oh, boy, AT&T, that's always fun. That gives me something to rag on. IBM is going to report tomorrow. They've actually done fairly decently recently. ServiceNow, Chipotle. and a few others. And then Intel on Thursday. I can hardly wait for Intel. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. Just looking at a few charts this morning. The ones so far that jump off the page at me. AEHR, which is a smaller chip-related stock. Toll Brothers, which is a home builder. A very nice earnings report from them today and a very nice breakout in that stock. Believe it or not, the solar stocks are having a very good day today. And I'll tell you why. Zuckerbox is going to build one of the biggest solar farms in the world in Texas. And it's going to provide all the power to one of his data center plants. Well, we've been saying that solar can't keep up or supply the energy for those plants. Apparently, I don't know how big the solar farm is. Maybe it's half the state of Texas, Barry.
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Think about the scale. I mean, when you say the biggest, you put these two things together and it's hard, no pun intended, it's hard to compute in my head when you've got you know, what, the largest solar project, right? And then, of course, it's going to power one data center? Just one? One data center. Just one. Okay.
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Yeah. I think a nuclear power plant could probably power 27. I don't know what the – you'd have to do the math on that.
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But it is something you can ramp up quickly. It is something you can ramp up quickly. That's the difference. I mean, of course, you've got GEV, which is going to report this week. They can – You just add that on to a current power plant and fire it with natural gas, and it's producing power pretty quickly in terms of ramp up. Solar would be kind of, I guess, you can ramp solar up a little faster. And then, of course, further, further out, as we talk about long duration, is some of those nuclear, building a nuclear power plant and actually having it come online.
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Yeah, exactly. So anyways, the SEDG is doing well today, which is SEDG. And the other one is the one that's getting the most activity out of that solar farm. Oh, let's see, which one was? Well, DQ out of China is getting a lot of activity. of action out of it but uh no it's the one that uh what's the tech what's the technology huh in phase yeah in phase is the one that's getting the most action in that from that uh announcement by zuckerbucks okay uh the other funny one there's two more charts i want to mention here this big lorry which is bh they own steak and shake Now, I've never been to a Steak and Shake. Have you ever been to a Steak and Shake in Florida?
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That's about as close as we get to, and it's not even comparable to In-N-Out, but it's about the closest you could get in the southeast hemisphere in terms of milkshake and combo with a burger.
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Yeah, but, you know, their business model is now buying Bitcoin. And that's kind of Trump's business model with his Truth Social. He bought, or the company bought, $2 billion worth of Bitcoin. And I'm seeing all these companies, you know, just stocking up. MicroStrategy, obviously, is the leader, one of the top-performing stocks over the last five years. It is the top-performing stock. And their main business model these days is buying Bitcoin. And, you know, a few others. I saw this morning a European biotech. A biotech. Guess who they're investing their money in? GameStop. So go figure. A biotech investing in GameStop, which has basically also changed their whole business model. That's Ryan Cohen. who also owns Chewy or manages Chewy, he's also investing heavily in Bitcoin. That's his business model. Now, the legit one here today, Agnico Eagle, which we own, that's a beautiful chart on Agnico Eagle, AEM, it's up 2.5% today. It's in gold, okay? You know, I've always just wondered, if push comes to shove, And, you know, someone's got a gun to your head, and you pull a gold coin out of your pocket saying, you know, we'd probably shoot you anyways. But let's say you had to get out of Dodge. When we were in San Diego, a lot of Vietnamese refugees that got out of Vietnam, they got out because they had gold sewed into their clothing and were able to bribe. I'm just wondering if they'd have handed a guy their Bitcoin credit card, right, for Robinhood. I think you'd probably get shot in the head. What's this? This ain't going to cut it. I don't know. You just don't know. Is Bitcoin really going to be that value? We'll see. We'll find out. Nico Eagle is a big miner of gold. And the gold had a very good day. And the gold stocks, I thought maybe they were done for the year, but they're getting a second life here. Maybe some of that AI money is going back into gold again. But AEM is also a good chart today. Okay, now the European trade chart. It sounds like it's going to be 15% to 20% somewhere in there. And, of course, they're going to retaliate with 15% to 20% of their own. That's what it sounds like. But it sounds like they're not making a whole lot of progress. And we're coming up, we're just nine, ten days away from August 1st, which is that deadline. So it's kind of all eyes on Europe. That seems to be the one they're working the hardest on right now. Now, as far as biotechs go, here's the downside of owning a biotech. REPL is down 80% today as the FDA rejects its lead drug for skin cancer, which, you know, I mean, it would be nice to find something to help with skin cancer, which is a pretty common occurrence. And that one...
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That's the pitfalls of the biotech industry. A lot of times it's either kind of like code, a zero or a one, right? It either makes it or it doesn't, and that's a chart that looks like it had a bad announcement.
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It may not come back. I had a friend in San Diego. She was the human resource manager, did all the hiring and firing for a small biotech in San Diego. And one day, I mean, the results came back and everything was rejected, you know, by the FDA. She had to tell everybody, your job ends, your last day is this Friday. As they basically closed down and shut their doors, it was all over. All the money they had raised, all the laboratory equipment, all the work they did, the scientists did. All in one fell swoop, it came to an end. So you have to be careful there. The U.K. government gives final green light to the Sizewell nuclear power plant. So you've got Europe. In Europe, you've got France is heavily involved in nuke energy. And now you've got the U.K. and the company involved there. I added it to my database this morning. It's called the Centrica, and the symbol is CPYYY. Well, I guess because, because, because. But I did answer, I did put that stock, CPYYY, in the database, Best Stocks Now. It is a $10 billion small cap company. but they'll be building a nuclear power plant in the UK. We'll be right back.
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We've got to get together soon.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Box Now show. And earnings season continues. As Barry said, 125 S&P 500 companies will report earnings this week for the S&P. And so by this Friday, we should have a very good idea. I said it was off to a good start. And the evidence The facts that I use for that is we started the quarter with expectations for 4.8% growth in earnings versus the same comparable quarter last year. And after the first week of earnings, that number went up to 5.6% as the companies pretty much came in across the board stronger. than expected earnings. And so we'll see. Who knows? Maybe this week we'll go up to seven and a half, seven. I don't know. We'll find out this weekend. Okay. Natural gas has been under heavy pressure. You know, it's very difficult. You know, it's hard enough to invest in oil. But natural gas is even more volatile because it's so plentiful. I think that's the biggest issue with natural gas. It's very plentiful. And it doesn't take too much to fill that supply chain with supply and drive prices down. But I see that the EQT, which is probably one of the better natural gas stocks out there, CEO Toby Wright says that the U S needs to cut permit time for natural gas, uh, natural gas projects or risk losing the AI rates. Well, we just talked about, uh, Zucker box is building an all solar data center in Texas. And, of course, the race is on. They're scrambling to get more nuclear power online to have all these data centers. But the third and fourth would be natural gas, would be another one. But one stock that we own in our new value and growth, our value relative growth portfolio, take a look at Peabody Energy today. Look at that chart. I picked that one up a while back in that portfolio, which is about a little over halfway built out so far. I aim to have 35 to 40 stocks in there when it's fully invested. We currently have maybe 23, 24-something, and one of those is Peabody Energy, BTU, which is actually a coal flake. And let's not forget that Trump believes that there's got to be a bridge between our current state of energy and future energy, whether it's solar and wind or nuclear, which takes even longer. But in the meantime, there's got to be a bridge to power all of this stuff. BTU is up 8.6% today. It's one of the bigger winners in the market, and we own the Peabody BTU in the value. Why? The PE ratio is 6. It's expecting 685% growth this year in earnings, and it's trading at a PE of just 6. headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri. Peabody Energy, looking pretty good. Who's paying the tariffs? Well, the tariffs are there. They're in place. I'm seeing it show up here and there in things that I buy on a regular basis. It looks mostly like the U.S. importers are bearing the brunt of the tariff costs so far. And as I've been saying, you know, those tariff costs are spread out amongst the manufacturers that manufacture the product, and they probably bear the least of the burden because it costs so much to manufacture a product. But they, I'm sure, do bear some of that burden. But it's that middleman, the importer. There's the real brunt of who bears the burden. the brunt of those, uh, tariffs. And it looks like the importers, then of course you've got, uh, the actual, uh, consumer themselves. And, uh, Wells Fargo has been saying that, you know, that's going to start showing up in the inflation numbers. It hasn't yet. Okay. It has not yet. Uh, but, uh, that's where that, uh, that's where who pays those tariffs. Okay. The 10 stocks fueling the NASDAQ rally in 2025, and these are probably all the stocks that are under pressure today. Number one, Palantir, 102%. Who's the guy who said, I think we know this guy, who said at the closing bell of the NASDAQ back in early January that my top pick for 2025 was Palantir? Not bad, Barry, up 102%, the number one performer in the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ so far this year. Number two, Zscaler, up 60%. Number three, KLA 10 Core, up 50%. Strategy Incorporated, which is Michael Saylor's company built on cryptocurrency, it's up 48% year-to-date. DoorDash is up 44%. The fastest-coring restaurant stock out there in DoorDash. Constellation Energy, number 6, up 42%. Lamb Research, number 7, up 41%. CrowdStrike, number 8, up 40%. MercadoLibre, number 9, up 40%. And number 10, Netflix, up 37.3%. Well... We were just talking about steak and shake and In-N-Out burgers. And it's not even lunchtime yet, Barry, here on the East Coast. We've got an hour and 15 minutes. Did you know that Tesla opened up a futuristic diner in Los Angeles? And he's planning more. I also saw, speaking of Los Angeles.
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Do we have robots? Do we have robots serving the food?
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Yes, they have robots. They have a drive-in theater, a little drive-in theater. They have a Tesla burger with electric sauce. They have 80 V4 supercharger stalls, audio sync directly to Tesla speakers. It also serves up a full menu. So anyways, and I also did see, speaking about burgers, did you see that the CEO of In-N-Out Burger is moving the headquarters of In-N-Out to Tennessee?
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Yeah, moving to Tennessee, I think the word was still didn't say, still didn't commit to building some in and outs here on the eastern seaboard. But, yeah, moving, when I was in Nashville, when I first moved to Nashville, Nissan had just came from L.A., So Nissan moved their headquarters from L.A. to Nashville, an area just south of Nashville called Cool Springs. But, yeah, all of those people came over, and a lot of them I don't think have left. So taxes is better, and the cost of doing business is better.
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He's obviously a billionaire. I mean, there was that plane crash that killed most of the family, and she survived. I think she's a granddaughter of the founder. She's a billionaire. And her reason for leaving California was it's too difficult to do business in California. So I hope Gavin Newsom's listening. I don't think it even matters to him. They really don't seem to care. But, I mean, that's kind of a gem of a company. that's leaving California as far as their headquarters go. And, of course, a lot of tech has left California for Austin, Texas, and a few other places. Well, the railroads continue to consolidate. BNS, which is the combined companies, when they combine, you had Burlington Northern and Santa Fe, to create BNSF, they hire Goldman Sachs looking for a merger partner or whatever, and CSX seeks bankers as Union Pacific Rail sparks a rail M&A race. So I know that rail is not what it once was, but there's obviously still a need to use, especially in transporting a lot of goods. That would take a lot of trucks to transport. So, you know, it wasn't that long ago that the stock market was driven by the transportation index, which included the railroads, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
The old Dow theory, right? The transportation of transports. Exactly.
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Well, Google's AI model gets a gold medal at the Global Math event. And I've noticed that Google's stock has been pretty perky. I think we'll talk a little bit about Google and Embraer, the metal company, Coca-Cola, and BYDDF when we come back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now.
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The first talk I want to talk about here in this last segment is Embraer out of Brazil, where They continue to try to hash out some kind of an agreement down there. And, of course, that seems to be more political than anything with Brazil going, the current leader Lula going after Bolsonaro. But anyways, the Embraer is caught up in the middle of it. But I see the news on Embraer today, ERJ. that they hit a record $29.7 billion backlog in Q2. So there's a lot of demand for the planes that Embraer produces. The company delivered 61 aircraft in Q1, which is up 30% year over year. So we continue to hold our Embraer in the value portfolio. And it's definitely, I think, on a relative basis right now. The forward PE currently is at 22. Let's see, that's the PE. The forward PE, yeah, about 22 or so. that's relatively inexpensive so this could be a good buying opportunity and bro they certainly have the backlog that's going to keep them busy for quite some time now well speaking of hopping on planes we'll hop and speaking of hopping on planes we'll be in detroit two weeks from today you'll be doing a uh a workshop there uh in bloomfield hills right yeah two weeks from today and uh The word is, if it's filling up, you better call Edie quickly, 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST, and we're looking at adding another day. We're going to have appointments all day Tuesday, all day Wednesday, two long days, and it's looking like we're going to have to go into Thursday, which is fine by me.
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Yeah, let's do it.
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We'll meet the folks. But if you want to grab a spot, I know it's two weeks out, but, boy, those went quick. 855-611-BEST. Now, maritime law, you know, growing up in Point Loma in San Diego, we had a huge tuna fleet. We had a port. We had submarines. We shared an ocean border with Mexico where you get into, you know, like how many miles out until you get into international waters and all this and that. You had Top Gun pretty close? Yeah, I had friends that when they graduated from high school, they got their law degrees in maritime law. And you go down around like Shelter Island or whatnot, you know, you're getting into some pretty complicated business. You know, when you're taking tuna and feigning a bunch of tuna in Mexican waters or whatever. You know, that's pretty – well, those days are kind of over. You know, you have to be out in international waters. It gets pretty complicated. But where it's coming into play today is these companies that are looking for rare earth under the ocean. The rare earth stock sold off yesterday, the metals company. uh that's a seabed mining company there's worries that president trump's recent order pledging to open international waters to mining conflicts with long-standing law of the sea treaty which could expose tmc to legal risk so now you're getting into some some deep water pardon the pun oh man uh you know i mean that comes with two also i mean When they recover these boats that went down with loads of gold doubloons on them and whatnot, you're getting into some tricky waters there, and that's hitting these rare earth stocks right now. BYDDF is having a good day. They're going to slow down their productivity a little bit. And let's just go over a soggy stock right now. We don't own Coca-Cola. You know, many days it helps me through the day with that Diet Cherry Coke. You know, when I looked at about 500 charts, it's time for a Diet Cherry Coke. A little pepper up there. But as far as an investment, okay, KO has not exactly been a knockout stock, and yet It's all owned by the big institutions. They just load up on Coca-Cola. Never mind that over the last 10 years, you could say this. Okay, look, I've gotten an 8.9% return over the years, over the last 10 years from Coca-Cola. That's not bad. That's doubling my money every seven and a half, eight years. But the problem is, I mean, if you compare it with the market, which we define as the S&P 500 in this case, Coca-Cola has well underperformed the market. The market's averaged 19.7% per year, Coca-Cola 8.8%, and it continues to underperform the market. Over the last 12 months, it's up 10.6%, market's up 13.8%. And over the last three years, Coca-Cola has only delivered 7.5, S&P 21.6. And the answer as to why is quite easy. It's because they don't have the earnings growth to keep up with the S&P 500. With the average company out there in the S&P 500, So when you have sub-average growth, you're going to get sub-average performance.
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73% institutional ownership, by the way. How much?
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73%.
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So, I mean, you're just not going to move a big aircraft carrier like that without the growth. It's just not there. Now, Raytheon has reported it's down 1.5%. You would have to say that of the American defense stocks, the big ones, Raytheon is definitely the biggest one because of their Patriot missile franchise, shooting down all of those incoming rockets. Think of how many that Israel has burned through. But you know what? It's still a tough industry. Now, Raytheon over the last 12 months is up 49%. I mean, it's had a hot 12 months. The S&P is 13.8. But over the longer haul, you know, it's been a pretty sluggish performer. And the last thing I would look at here would be their valuation. Five-year upside potential, only 62.7. So it's very subpar. I like 80% or more upside potential. Well, there you go. There's quite a bit of data information for you to chew on here from today's show. Definitely a rough day for the big tech leadership stocks in the market today. And we've got to watch that momentum. It can be fleeting. And those technical charts very, very closely here going forwards. To get the whole enchilada offer from us for four weeks, go to GundersenCapital.com to set up an appointment with us to get out of those soggy stocks. 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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Angie Austin sits down with Michelle Rahn to discuss their shared passion for experiencing life's pleasures at any age. They delve into the heartwarming initiative 'Cycling Without Age,' which provides elderly and differently-abled individuals the freedom to enjoy cycling. Michelle recounts the adventures she has shared with Bob post-retirement, from historical tours to infamous field trips. This episode encourages listeners to value intergenerational connections and the continuous pursuit of knowledge and joy through nature's wonders.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hello there, it's Angie Austin with The Good News, along with my good friend, Michelle Rahn. Welcome back, my good friend, Michelle Rahn.
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Yay, it's so wonderful to hear your voice. You just are full of joy, my dear, even in the morning and afternoon and evening. Love you.
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I just get such a kick out of our text thread. You and me and Beatrice every day, we kind of share big events, and she shares a prayer with us, and we see what's going on. And I always ask about your field trips. So today we're talking about two things. Michelle is a retired teacher. And she has a love of learning. And she and her husband, Bob, go on. They're retired many years, but they go on these field trips. And I follow them. And I took one, which I'll explain in a minute. And then also, I want to talk to Michelle about her love of having friendships with people who are younger, different generational friendships. And she and I have been friends since around, I think, the time my kids were born and now two will be heading off to college and one in high school. And so you've really been along with me friend wise since I've been, you know, all along with me raising my kids.
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Absolutely. And it's been a privilege every single minute.
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It's been a blast. Okay. Tell everyone about this recent field trip you took that allows people who can't ride their bikes anymore, like my mother, who's in a wheelchair many times. I mean, she can use a walker and a cane, but not from long distances. So explain this program to everyone because I'm actually going to have them on the show as well.
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Oh, I'm so glad. It's a program that allows people, no matter if you ever rode a bike or loved to ride a bike, but to sit in a literally like a chair in front of a bicycle that's being driven by a volunteer for this organization. And it's just a wonderful opportunity. Bob and I used to ride our bikes every day when we lived in Florida together. And we miss it terribly. We're just not able to do that. Maybe if I worked harder at doing it, I could possibly do. But this is such a wonderful, wonderful experience. And it's like our vision of a rickshaw.
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Yes.
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I believe it's called a tri-shaw with three people, the driver of the bicycle in the back and two people can sit in front. Yes. Oh, the scenery is beautiful. They take you through Hudson Gardens and down along the Platte River. It's just a wonderful, wonderful field trip. And I would suggest even people do it in the fall. As we were riding along, I thought how pretty that would be. And along the way, there is... A coffee shop that they stop, and if you want to get something to drink, you can do it there. And I didn't know this, but bicycles are not allowed in Hudson Gardens, but the Trishaw is. So you go through and you can see the Rose Gardens and you can see where the concerts are. It's just excellent. So you must make a reservation because of the volunteers, obviously. Yes.
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It's called Cycling Without Age Littleton. And I got Richard, nicknamed Dick, as my driver. He's retired. And it was an engineer and he was fabulous. I think he's one of their best. And Barb started the organization. And I guess she runs this organization. Her sister does the scheduling and her sister's out of like the Midwest. And Barb is the executive director of Cycling Without Age Listen. But Dick told me that if my mom and I wanted to do a longer ride, they also have one now that is Waterton Canyon. And he loves that area. So I think it's. It's multiple hours because you've got to catch a bus. You take the Trishaw up. Again, it's like a backwards rickshaw. And then they take you up to Waterton Canyon. And they've got the Bighorn Sheep up there, the Rocky Mountain Bighorn Sheep. And there's a lot of history there. There's a Barron's family homestead up there. You'll see a lot of wildlife. He sent me kind of a screen, like a big picture show. And he had a lot of wildlife in there. And then there's some bees that they have in like logs. It's interesting. They have holes in logs with bees. And then it's called Denver's Famous Ditch. I don't know quite why they call it that, but then you can go all the way up to the falls up there. There's like falls over the dam, I believe. I've never even been all the way up there, so I'm really looking forward to it. I'm going to try to do it in the fall, like you mentioned.
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So there's no cost to what we did down off of Santa Fe with that group. Is there a cost for the one you're talking about? No. No?
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No, they accept donations. So I did what he called a generous donation. I just thought it was well worth it because I can't imagine what that service would cost if you were paying someone. But because they want seniors on a limited budget to be able to do it, You know, they do not have a cost. You told me that they accept donations. I thought it was for the driver, but he said, oh, no, it's for the organization. The driver doesn't get any tip. He put it right in the envelope and then you get something from Barb regarding your donation.
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Right. And we met on our ride. We met Barb along the way. She was helping with a painting class that they had in the Trishaw. And you get out right along the riverbank there, and it was such a beautiful day. But we were talking about the cost and how... It is free to those of us that take it. But if we wanted to make a donation, like you said, it goes every penny to the organization. She was telling us that one of those tri-shaws is $15,000. Oh, I believe it. Right, exactly. It would have to be very strong. And so that's great. a huge part of their cost. But both I can tell you and I would recommend it to anyone. And special needs children, special needs adults, they are more than welcome to be one of the guests that goes along on one of these rides. So please check into it for those of you that are listening.
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Now, along with this, again, that one is Cycling Without Age Littleton. And, again, you have to make a reservation. Sometimes they have cancellations, so you might not have to wait as long as you would think. And besides that field trip, I know you've taken, you know, Celestial Seasonings. You went to some kind of a cool puzzle place where they make puzzles. You've been to the Mother Cabrini Shrine. Tell me about some of the other places that you and Bob have been in your retirement that have been fun.
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Oh, my gosh. We've been doing this, it'll be a year in August now, and there is so much to see around Colorado and so much to see and visit and learn from around the Denver area. One of my very favorites was the castle. I've got to think of the name of it. Just a second here. Cherokee Castle and Ranch. Oh, that's where I got married. Yes, you said that, and I am just thrilled. I had never heard of it, Angie. I know. Isn't it a beautiful, beautiful place?
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Oh, it's stunning, and it's so neat because the ranch had cattle there, and I think they still do. They're from Texas, like bighorn cattle, and everybody said, oh, you'll never be able to raise those cattle in Colorado. They're from a warm climate, and the wealthy woman that lived on the ranch from Texas, she was very successful raising them here.
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Well, here's the fun story of that. We took a tour, a 90-minute tour, with a fabulous docent. And she shared that a woman ahead of her time, in my opinion, came from Texas to purchase this land and this castle. And she was told that she could not bring her cattle with her. And because in the state of Colorado, they did not have this particular brand of cattle. However, she insisted, and she just started out and brought her cattle to the ranch, and she, therefore, was associated with the stockyards, and she was the first woman to be on the board for that position. So much history. There were two owners there. originally when this castle was built. And the location on it says Sedalia, but I would say it's almost Castle Rock because it's off of Santa Fe. But for those of you that want a bit of history of Colorado, it is phenomenal. And it was out way all by itself for years and years and years. And now it is just this beautiful, beautiful place with art everywhere. Masterpieces, in fact, if I remember correctly, there were two masterpieces of art on the lower level of the castle that are the originals. You can have tea there. They have different events. Like you said, weddings are popular, of course, but it is a wonderful tour. I would definitely recommend taking the tour because the history comes out.
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Yeah, I would also recommend it. And just I was thinking, too, it might be fun. I would love to go with you and Bob, maybe my mom if she's up to it. But it would be fun in the fall. You know, the elk rut, the mating season is in, I think, late August into September. And it'd be fun to just drive up to Estes for the day, get some pizza. They have a great pizza place up there that's been there since I went as a teenager there. And it's still there on the main drag. And then we could drive through the YMCA, the Rockies. Last year they had the most enormous elk that had its herd of women's harem. And it's so fun to kind of search them out. And you can get into the Rocky Mountain National Park. We can make a reservation and drive up in there. And what's neat is that a lot of the photographers are up there, and they're kind of stalking this one particular giant elk. They're all trying to get him. And I've seen several videos. And one guy said, I can't wait to see how big he is this year.
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Oh, my gosh. That sounds great. Sounds great. We would have a blast. I want to give a shout-out to one of the places we went because you were talking about Estes, and the place I'm talking about is the Legacy Pie Company. It's up by the old Elitches, and it's on, oh, gosh, 38th or 32nd, I don't remember. But the young man that owns it, he and his wife, are fabulous and it's just this little tiny place but if you google it you can get a little coupon for one of their small cherry pies and I believe all their cherries come from Michigan I'd have to check my history on that but his grandmother is the one who has the um, pie company going into Estes and I've not been there, but again, the history is passed on and it was just a great place. And the young man is phenomenal. So a shout out to the legacy pie company. And you mentioned the puzzle place up in Boulder Liberty puzzles is where we went. They make their own wooden, their wooden pieces and they're extremely beautiful.
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I love that. I love that. Okay, so we don't have much time, but you can see by just our discussion that this, you know, different generations, you know, friendship that I've had for, you know, a few decades now, how wonderful it's been. Michelle's around the age of my mom. I'm probably close to the age of her kids. Yeah.
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I would think so. I'm happy to share that I'm 81 and thankful for every single moment God allows me to be on this earth. He's not done for me yet, and I believe that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, so Michelle and I, this friendship that we've had has been very beneficial for both of us. And I just highly recommend it. And she had told me many years ago that it's so important to have friends of different generations. And most of us just think of having friends our age. You start in school and then you continue with friends that are parents of the kids that are going to school together and on from there. But boy... It's so fun, and you learn so much. I have from you, Michelle, and just the depth of your faith and the way that you conduct your life, the way that you treat people, your speaking engagements, how you really get out there and live your life to the fullest. Michelle had a heart attack in her 50s. It was very serious, and here she is over three decades later living her best life. So you can change the course of destiny with the health changes you made.
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Well, again, I'm the first to tell you that getting older is hard. It is hard. And there are challenges that you face that you never thought in the world you'd have to face. But the important thing, I do believe, is so much of our attitude. And sure, I know that sounds like a Pollyanna, but there's something about an attitude of I'm going to try rather than I can't do it. And I think that's just vital to have. And I do believe it's imperative that we have friendships with all ages. If I am completely surrounded by people in my 80s, as I am, I have a different outlook. And yet, just like when I was teaching, my students were the ones that kept me in tune with what's happening, the music of what's happening, the books. And no, I don't have to agree with all of it, but I do need to know what's going on around me. Just like you had mentioned, your age, Angie, I'm so grateful for that. You have inspired me tremendously with the challenges that you have faced, and that is just vital. You and I need each other, and I believe that with all my heart. It's fun. This past year, I volunteered in my daughter's fourth-grade class once a week, and many of those kids didn't have grandmas, or the grandmas were living far away. In our neighborhood. In our neighborhood. We have my age. We have young newlywedding people. We have new mommies. Those are important to get to know. And we take care of them and they take care of us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, MichelleARon.com if you want to find my friend. I can't wait to have you come back. Thank you, Michelle.
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Hey there, it's Angie Austin with the good news. You know, Michelle Rahn is a good friend of mine, and she had told me about this wonderful organization. And she said, Angie, you've got to take your mother on this cycling trip. And it is Cycling Without Late Age Littleton. And Barb Lote is joining us. And she is the founder of this Cycling Without Age. And my understanding, Barb, is that you pretty much have two full-time jobs, running Cycling Without Age with some help from volunteers and then a career. So I understand you're quite busy. And then will you introduce your volunteer, Dick, and tell me a little about him as well?
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Absolutely. I am Barb Lotz, and I am privileged to be the executive director and co-founder of Cycling Without Age Little Tenant. And Dick Frazzi is one of our amazing volunteers. And, gosh, he's been at it at least a couple years. And just is a fabulous pilot. And he orchestrated his championing the rides to Waterton Canyon this year. And we just have a whole lot of programs going on because of creative adults like Dick who are willing to give their time, love, and passion to making a difference.
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All right, we're going to explain a little bit more about how Cycling Without Age works and about Waters and Canyon. But, Dick, just before we get into all the specifics, you're a volunteer, so you were a cyclist before, and this interested you?
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Yes, very much so. I've always been into cycling.
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And you took me and my mom.
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Yes, that was such a pleasure.
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Yeah, she got such a kick out of it because she hadn't been on a bike. She didn't get a bike until all of her children already had bikes. And then she used to, she told Dick, I used to ride my bike downtown to pay to Sears to pay for my washer and dryer. I had to do like a weekly check. And, yeah, it's pretty funny. And she hasn't been on a bike for 50 years, and she's mid-80s, so it's been a really long time. So we're going to get more into Dick and how he retired from his engineering career and started doing this with Barb. Barb, how did you come up with this and explain this tri-shaw and how it works and how Cycling Without Age came about?
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Cycling Without Age, Littleton is a chapter of a much larger international chapter called Cycling Without Age. It started in Copenhagen. Ten years ago, they just celebrated their 10th anniversary. So I cannot take credit for the idea. So that your listeners can understand, we're talking about a tri-shot is a bike with a passenger seat in the front. It's a three-wheeled bike, and it's a passenger seat that sits about two people, nice cushions. And we, the pilots, that's what we're called, peddle, people, and we are so fortunate that we get to go down the Platte River through Hudson Gardens, and we just have such a scenic, beautiful route that we get to take every day. So the chapter that started in Copenhagen, Ollie had this vision that We just need to get people that used to cycle, people that can't cycle. We need to get them on bikes, getting wind in their hair. Everybody deserves the opportunity to have that feeling. I feel the only feeling of freedom really that a bike gives you. And many people can remember from childhood riding a bike. Your mom was later, it sounds like. coming on, but we want everybody, people that never could ride a bike, that are challenged, individuals that are on the spectrum, older adults. And so the paradigm started that Ali went to a facility, an older adult facility, and started giving rides. And so That's how the thousands of chapters are around the world. But I volunteered for the first chapter in Lakewood in 2018, and I did it for about a year, and I thought, this is crazy. The only people that get to do this are people that live in this facility. So I and Bill Nagel and Phil Cernanak set out to say, we need to do this different. The paradigm could be everybody is welcome. Everybody can have wind in their hair at no cost. So we're going to be a volunteer organization that gives joy, wind in the hair, and freedom. And so alas, we took off in 2019 with 12 rides and four of us volunteering. And fast forward today, we gave 30, almost 3,800 rides last year, 10 trishaws we now have, and we have 148 volunteers. So it has gone a little wild.
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Wow. And people, they donate money for the rides if they can afford to, if they choose to. Right. And so you survive pretty much on fundraising and donations. Is that right?
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Total donations. I really don't have time to do fundraising. I actually have two career jobs and then cycling at that age is my third job. But they all feed in each other. They're all with older adults and people with challenges. And so we have gracious donors, people that are passengers. They want a tip, and we say we don't take tips, but we take donations. And then we have, like, the Friedman Foundation, and we ride for, and Comfort Keepers, who $15,000 is a tri-show. That's the cost for a tri-show. So we've had some big donors that have donated $15,000 for a tri-show or more. Wow, wow. Very blessed. We are very, very blessed.
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And give us the website where people go if they would like to arrange for a ride, if they'd like to make a reservation.
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Sure, cwalittleton.com.
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CWALittleton.com. And then, Dick, how did you find out about this organization and start volunteering with Barb?
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Well, as you said, I'm an avid cyclist. I've been cycling my whole life and live, you know, way south, down south of Chatfield State Park. And there's a great ride you can do starting in Chatfield, going down the Mary Carter Greenway Path all the way to downtown Denver. But I started seeing these tri-shaws. I didn't know what they were right around Hudson Gardens and along the South Platte there, Carson Nature Center. I remember seeing one. And finally, somebody was stopped. So I came over and talked to them and said, what is this? I've got to learn more about this. And the smiles on the riders faces just told the whole story. There was such joy. And the pilots I talked to also said, this is such a blessing to be able to do this and to, you know, reintroduce cycling to some of our customers. And just special, you know, greatest generation members that can no longer shackle themselves. So they handed me one of the little brochure, one of the brochures that's always right there on the Trishaw. And I called the number on there. And within a few days, I got a call back from Barb. and we set up a time to talk have kind of a phone interview and i i guess i made muster and she passed me on and i was accepted to go into the training program which is fabulous because you get to learn everything about the trishaws how to be safe how to protect these precious people when they're you know under your charge and then to become a certified pilot. And that all happened, you know, with a matter of maybe two months once I actually decided to make the call.
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My understanding is that you're one of the favorites. You're one of the top guys. And I can see why, because, you know, you give such great information on the ride and you enjoy it so much. And I couldn't believe that you could do it because, you know, we're my mom and I aren't very big people, but I know you have much bigger people than we are. But then you explained to me that there you get a little help. Is that right from the bike?
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Yes. Yes. I don't think we would be nearly as successful if we didn't have the, you know, it's a pedal assist e-bike, which means, you know, there's multiple levels of. assistance that we can basically shift into if we're going up a hill, add a little more power from the motor, and then it has a regular gear shift for the cassette gearing in the rear. So that allows us to go a lot further, allows us to climb bigger hills than we normally would be able to with two people on the front of the bike.
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Now, go ahead, honey.
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I was just going to say the bike is 150 pounds, then it's the pilot's weight, and then it's the weight in the front. But down the plow, it's pretty flat. And Dick would probably agree we could do it without pedal assist. But the whole goal is that we bring joy, we be in relationship, and we give a comfortable ride. So we tell pilots, even if you're strong enough, Put the assist on because we want it to be the best ride ever for our passengers. Our whole goal is to break the isolation barrier so that that's why we don't have a rickshaw with the passenger in the back. We don't want to have to look at our back and our butt. We intentionally get these rigs that cost a lot more because it's really about sharing that relationship, welcoming the community around. It's really getting people out and socializing and being good human beings together. I mean, that's just what we're called to do, especially in our world today. How do we just be good people, good stewards of each other and our earth and be together promoting good, positive energy?
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Yes, and I love it that wind is in your hair, like you talk about, and that you are facing forward, and it's like riding a bike to see pilots behind you. And we don't have a lot of time left, but Dick, would you give us a little lowdown? Not only is there Hudson Gardens, but I'm hoping to schedule my mom before you stop doing the Waterton Canyon rides for the season. So tell us a little bit about that new ride.
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Okay, well, I just live two and a half miles from the entrance to Waterton Canyon. I've been going there for over 10, 12 years. It's one of my favorite places to ride. It's amazing. You all of a sudden are just taken out of a busy city into the most beautiful scenic nature place you can think of with surrounding mountains, with the beautiful South Platte River flowing beside you. And, you know, it's such an asset. It's provided by Denver Water, where a lot, you know, I would say millions of people in Denver get their drinking water. But they've made this a recreation area. You see people jogging, moms pushing strollers, little kids on bikes, fishermen, you know, many, many different areas. And just the through hikers, you know, that is the official thing. start or beginning of the wonderful Colorado Trail, which goes all the way to Durango. And I just met some folks yesterday who were here. She's from Cortez. So she's like, oh, I'm just riding home. But he was from Virginia. And he was like, wow, this is amazing. We don't have anything like this. And, of course, with the state, the Colorado state mammal, the bighorn sheep is protected species in there. And it's I'd say 75 percent of the time that I'm in there, I will see bighorn. you know, some of the rams or the ewes or even the lambs. This is kind of the birthing season. So we see those on occasion. Usually they're pretty far away, but sometimes they're right down on the road. And it's just an amazing encounter with nature as well as, you know, hundreds of different types of birds. There are also amazing species from the local area as well. Deer, as well as just beautiful plants and butterflies. I mean, I can go on and on.
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You're really great at the history, too. We're almost out of time. So, Barb, give us the website one more time in case people want to schedule a ride.
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DWA Littleton, all one word dot com. And I might mention really quickly that we also go to Dinosaur Ridge. That's new this year. We actually have openings for the Dinosaur Ridge. Yes, we've been partnered with them and we do bird safaris. And so check out our website because there's all that information on there and you can reach out to our scheduler or if you're interested in volunteering, you just reach out and we'll get back with you. And it's just a beautiful organization and, We are privileged to give our passengers rides and just, like I said, bring wind in the hair together.
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I love it. Well, thank you so much, Barb. Thank you so much, Dick. Again, at Cycling Without Age Littleton, what a blessing you are to the people that you give these rides to. Can't wait to see you again. Thank you. Thank you.
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And they really, it doesn't totally matter if they win or lose because each year they're back winning. raising money running campaigns and colorado meanwhile has been declining significantly and the reason is is because we've got these power brokers that do not stand stand on principle but they stand on just on making money they're equivocal so it's important that we're connecting these dots i'll talk a little bit more about that here in just a little bit. Our quote for the day is from James Madison. He was born in 1751. He died in 1836. He was an American statesman, diplomat, and founding father. He was the fourth president of the United States, and he's been popularly acclaimed as the father of the Constitution. for his pivotal role in drafting and promoting the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights. And he said this, he said, if our nation is ever taken over, it will be taken over from within. And I chose that because of Tulsi Gabbard on the Sunday show with Maria Rosenthal. Bartiromo said that and released documents that indicate that Obama and company really pushed forward the lie of the Russian collusion with and Donald Trump. And that is really, I think, trying to take our country down from within. We have always prided ourselves on the peaceful transfer of power. Obama, when he received the initial nomination from the Democrats to run for president here in Denver, He said that we're just days away from transforming America. Well, what was he transforming America to? A Marxist nation. And they've gotten a lot of things accomplished regarding a march towards Marxism in America. And Donald Trump has disrupted that. And so they have really tried to undermine his presidency. And so it's going to get very interesting because what they have done has really been trying to take down our country. 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This is I love this when they have these little words in here. And this is this is from the Christian Post, says Lindsay Snyder, outspoken Christian and president of In-N-Out Burger, revealed Friday that she is relocating her family. from California to Tennessee, citing the challenges of raising children and conducting business in the Golden State. She said there's a lot of great things about California, but raising a family is not easy there, and doing business is not easy here as well. I've heard that a lot about Colorado as well, and so that is why we've got to continue to work to reclaim our state. One of the things yesterday that I was doing was connecting a dot. As we reported yesterday. And a consultant, a political consultant that works for 76 Group, Jeff Small, had reached out to a number of Republican county clerks requesting access, third-party access, to the tabulating machines. Well, this is this is I have this in air quotes. This is against state law that we would have someone access the tabulating machines. What is so interesting is that even the county clerks cannot access the tabulating machines without permission, basically from this Colorado secretary of state. But anyway, it is against the law. They did not grant access. And so I needed to do some more research on 76 Group, which I haven't done for a while. And it is the founder is Josh Penry, who is a very powerful activist. influential power broker who really plays both sides of the aisle. And all you need to do is go to their website and you will see a number of their clients are both conservative groups but also very liberal groups as well. So one of their clients is Unite America, which that is Catherine Murdoch's group, which has been very involved in trying to change elections here in Colorado. So anyway, I was doing some additional research. I hadn't really looked at the money for the ranked choice voting, which Kent Theory put a whole bunch of money in. I think total, all in, it had about $14 million invested. to try to get Coloradans to vote for ranked choice voting, which we did not. But there wasn't very much money that was coming in against it. There was our voices as well as other voices. But it was defeated. But they will come back. But the consultants still make a lot of money. They can make anywhere from 10 to 20%. So let's say 10% of $14 million is $1.4 million. 20% is $2.8 million. And so you can see that they still win whether or not the issue or the candidate wins or loses. So then I started to do additional research regarding Tabor because it very possibly looks like Tabor, there may be a real assault on that. At the end of this legislative session, the Democrats had put forth a resolution to sue to get rid of Tabor. which tabors Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. And it is one of the things that the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, our all-volunteer group, works diligently to protect. And if you see these folks out there, my fellow board members, say thank you to them. That's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And so I was doing this research, and I went back, and Prop 71 was passed in 2016. And in it, it had a couple of different things. It changed the benchmarks on how to get an initiative onto the ballot, making it more difficult for just citizens to get something onto the ballot, and making it, with the petition-gathering business as well so it raised the bar it was called raise the bar but I remembered this regarding getting an amendment passed and then getting an amendment repealed so this is from prop 71 was passed in 2016 in 2017 the legislation was passed to put it into law and and this is what it says at least 55 percent of the votes cast thereon adopts any measure for an amendment to the state constitution except that a majority of the votes cast thereon adopts any measure submitted for an amendment to the state constitution that only repeals in whole or in part any provision of the state constitution And so the way I read that is to get rid of an amendment to the Constitution. In Colorado, it only takes 50% plus one instead of 55%. 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Well, thank you, Kim. It's good being with you as always.
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Well, there is a lot happening out there. Always. First and foremost, I had mentioned in the previous segment about Prop 71 that was passed in 2016. And it was 2017 put into law. And I had had it in my memory bank that there was something weird about that. the percentages to get an amendment into the Constitution and to get an amendment out of the Constitution. And so I did some research and I found it. And it's buried deep, deep, deep within the language, which is why it's important for people to understand these ballot initiatives. But my understanding, the way I read this, is to get rid of an amendment, to take it out of the Constitution, it only takes a 50% vote instead of the higher benchmark of 55% to get a new amendment. Had you looked at that? Do you remember that at all?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're precisely correct. And the underlying theme of all of that is they didn't, they wanted to set it up so that they could carve out Tabor if possible. I mean, really, I can think of nothing else because the logic to putting this in, let's go back to before that. Before that amendment was passed or that proposition amending the Colorado Constitution, In order to make a change to the Constitution or to state statute, it was identical. It took the same number of signatures, and there was no extra requirement on where those signatures came from. And it took a 50% plus one vote to make it so. And so anybody trying to make a change through an initiative, would logically try to change the Constitution because it was just as simple as changing law, except for the fact that once you put it in the Constitution, the legislature couldn't touch it. So obviously people would go that route for things that maybe shouldn't be constitutional. Like spring bear hunting, I think, was one of the measures that was proposed prior to that. So, yeah, they made it tougher. Now, I always argued that you shouldn't make it tougher to change the Constitution. You should make it easier to change the statutes, and then you'd have that proper balance. But instead, they went the path of, well, let's just make it more difficult, and so they did two things. They said you must get a, I think it's at least 2% of the required signatures from every Senate district in the state in order to make a constitutional change, and then it took a vote of 55% to pass that, not 50% plus one vote. But they made this exception, and to me it was just, It was just very obvious. Maybe they were equivocating a little bit here in that the real reason, I believe, was to make sure that they could take Tabor apart without the higher standard.
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So this was nine years ago. And when I say that there are those that are playing long ball regarding, really, I think the demise of Colorado. If Tabor is repealed... And they're very possibly we're going to have this happening, this question very soon, because it looks like the Jared Polis is going to call a special session. And my ear to the ground is, is that one of the things that they're going to do is refer possibly refer a measure to the ballot to repeal Tabor. What do you hear, Kevin Lumberg?
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Well, I haven't heard specifics on that. I can tell you that the rumors I was given last week was that that special session will probably happen in the middle of August, which would make sense. In other words, there was some, you know, chatter among legislators of keep your calendar open around there because you're liable to have to be back in session. Yeah, the big reason they want this special session is to deal with the problems they're having with their budget, which, little footnote here, they asked for this problem, oh man, more than 10 years ago they started to set up this dilemma by expanding Medicaid, and now with the measure from Trump, And Congress, but really Trump is the one who deserves most of the credit for this big, beautiful bill that is going to require states to take more of the burden for Medicaid or to pull it back and, you know, So, yeah, they're going to have it. Now, I haven't heard specifically on the Tabor issue. Wouldn't surprise me at all, but bear this in mind. They're going to need some Republican support in order to do that, because Tabor is a constitutional issue, and to make changes to the Constitution, if the legislature refers it, it takes a two-thirds majority or a supermajority from both houses to pass this major. And they don't quite have those votes today. I believe it's one vote shy in both chambers. Yeah, they may go for it. And if they do, they're going to have to find some, let's say, turncoat Republican to join them. So clarification on this.
SPEAKER 12 :
So could the state legislature repeal Tabor with that two-thirds, or is it just to get it referred to the ballot?
SPEAKER 15 :
That's just to get it referred to the ballot.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
But here's what they can do and have been doing all along, is they've been I'm sorry, your word for the day is just so appropriate. They equivocate on the terminology they use by putting in place fees to replace the appropriate word, which are taxes, because Tabor... says no new taxes without a vote of the people and so on. So the legislature says, well, we'll just call it a fee and therefore we get a free pass and we can impose this cost on people. And I'll even give you a very specific example when it comes to Medicaid expansion. One of the ways they played a game was putting in place what's called the hospital provider fee, which means if you go into the hospital You are charged a fee for being there, which is a gimmick to ostensibly tell the federal government the state is contributing this much to Medicaid. But really, these dollars are simply sent to the federal government, who sends back twice as many if it's a 50-50 share, and then that money goes back to Medicaid. theoretically, the hospitals, but it's spread out in sort of a Marxist mentality of spreading it to the greatest need rather than the actual person who provided that fee. And I greatly simplified that. But I say that because I noted in a national publication talking about this gimmick that they use with the provider. They call it a provider tax in other states. But in Colorado, they call it a fee, and therefore they get away with it, and the legislature can raise taxes then.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And check out the Center for American Values. It is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk, focused on these principles of honor, integrity and patriotism. And they do that through a number of educational programs for kindergarten through 12th grade. as well as on values presentations, keeping the stories of our Medal of Honor recipients at the forefront, as well as Drew Dix, one of the co-founders and Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War, has started a new podcast series. that you want to check that out. You can get all of that and find it at AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Kevin Lundberg, former Colorado State Senator, author of the Lundberg Report. And Kevin, the Lundberg Report comes out on Saturdays. And this last Saturday, you mentioned something about Elon Musk thinking about, opining about starting a third party. And you said, actually, if he wants to cut spending, he should support the Article 5 movement. So unpack that for us.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, I'd be glad to. First off, I relate to Elon Musk's frustration with how the system works. And I think back to, oh boy, I think it was 1991. that I had the same exact opinion. Now, I didn't have the national platform that Musk has, but I personally was just completely frustrated with how the Republicans were conducting their side-of-the-aisle business, you might say, in Congress and at the state level. And I was Just all for starting a third party. And I remember going to a gentleman that I didn't know at the time, but I have since become a good friend with, but Michael Ferris, who started Homeschool Legal Defense Association and Patrick Henry College and was president of Alliance Defending Freedom. You know, somebody who's really been around the block on a lot of important issues. And I went to him and I said, when are we going to start a party that stands for something and, you know, abandon this Republican Party that just seems to be so upside down sometimes? And he gave me a curious answer. He turned to me and he said, now remember, this is 1991. He said, let me tell you how the Republicans are going to take over Congress. And he went on to describe... PRECISELY WHAT NEWT GINGRICH DID IN 1994, THREE YEARS LATER, WHERE THEY TOOK A NATIONAL PLATFORM AND CREATED WHAT THEY CALLED A CONTRACT WITH AMERICA AND THEY PUT THAT BEFORE THE PUBLIC AND THE PUBLIC RESPONDED AND SUDDENLY A CONGRESS THAT HAD BEEN IN CHARGE, IN CONTROL BY THE DEMOCRATS FOR 40 YEARS OR SO, SOMEWHERE IN THERE, FLIPPED THE OTHER DIRECTION. Now, why does that have something to do with starting a third party? Because the basic principle in politics in this country is this. It's a two-party system. You've got to work within what you've got. And if you come in and try to change things like Ross Perot did years later, and what did our, let me think, no, not years previous to that, He thought he'd run for president as a third-party candidate, and all he did was just a spoiler. You know, he brought us Bill Clinton. And that's what works that way. So Musk's idea that let's start a third party, you know, a new party, is just a spoiler. And what I said in the article is, or the little piece I put together as I referred to an article where a lot of significant movers and shakers are calling on Musk to retrain his attention to the real problem, which is the spending in Congress. The federal government can't stop spending, and even the big beautiful bill blows the deficit up that much more. Now, I support the bill because I think that ultimately under the circumstances we have, we may get there, but not unless we take the next step, which is to change the United States Constitution to demand that the federal government live within its means. And that's what the current efforts with Article 5 are all about. And the big leader right now in that arena is Convention of the States. And I've, oh, by the way, do you know who started Convention of the States? No.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
Michael Ferris. Yeah, he actually, a little history here. There was a group of, I'll call them patriots, because I think that's the best term, some legislators, some academics, some business people who met in Denver at the Independence Institute and And back in, let me think, 2012, and Mike Ferris got word, found out about it, and he came to that meeting. And when I heard he came, was going to that meeting, I thought, I'm going to go there too. So I did. And it was all about how Article 5 needs to be reinvigorated and kicked into gear. And OUT OF THAT MEETING, BY HIS ENCOURAGEMENT TO ME, I HELPED START THE STATE LEGISLATORS ARTICLE 5 CAUCUS, WHICH WAS AN EFFORT TO MOBILIZE STATE LEGISLATORS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS. WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK. WE'VE KIND OF MERGED WITH ANOTHER GROUP CALLED THE PATH TO REFORM THAT IS WORKING IN THIS ARENA. But anyway, that's the important, most significant effort right now is the Convention of the States. And Mike Ferris started it. What do you know? But Elon Musk needs to do what a lot of, you know, like Cal Thomas and Rick Santorum and a few folks like that have been publicly said, Musk needs to look at article 5 and get behind that because if we can put a constitutional amendment requiring a Tabor like amendment so this ties right into what we were talking about with Tabor if we can put this at the national level we can it can actually do two things one is really give Congress and our national government a path to balance the budget and And number two, the states will have reasserted their constitutional authority of making law in the Constitution without Congress. And it kind of reminds me of what the Colorado Constitution says about we the people versus our state legislature, where it says, curiously, it's called Article 5. works establishes the legislature in the Colorado Constitution but that's very different article by the national one establishes the Mac mechanism for amending the Constitution anyway in the Colorado Constitution says we the people reserve the right to make law independent of the legislature and that's what the states need to do as well we the states need to make a constitutional amendment to limit the growth of government at the federal level, independent of Congress, because they'll never do it on their own.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that is for sure. So let's go to break. When we come back, I'd like you to give us an update on where the Article 5 movement is, because I know that there's been a number of states that have approved this. So let's get an update on where that is exactly. And these discussions are super important. And if you have been injured, be sure and reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out the website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And the USMC Memorial Foundation has a couple events that will be coming up. There will be the 48th anniversary of the memorial on August 23rd with a special performance by Dave Bray. And then there will be a 5K at Arvada's Apex Center on September 20th. So those are a couple of things that you can do to have some fun and support the Memorial Foundation. And that website to get more information is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Talking with former state senator here in Colorado, Kevin Lundberg. And Kevin, we are talking about Article 5 and the movement to amend the U.S. Constitution to force Congress to balance the budget. Where is this movement at right now?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, let me start with this. Article 5 says specifically that in order to amend the U.S. Constitution, there are two paths. Either Congress, by a two-thirds vote from both houses, recommends an amendment, which then goes to the states who... uh... have to buy a three-quarters majority which means thirty currently thirty eight states have to approve the change for the amendment to be put in place or two-thirds of the states can call for a convention to record uh... that would meet to recommend amendments that then would go back to the states in three-fourths the states need to approve it Article 5, when we use that term, we're talking about the second method because we have amended the Constitution 27 times, and that includes the first 10, the Bill of Rights, of course. But those were all by a referred measure from the Congress. The states have never successfully put two-thirds together to have a comp uh... a convention or at least it hasn't been recognizes that uh... there have been in or uh... all well over four hundred resolutions passed by states calling for a uh... a convention to uh... uh... recommend uh... uh... amendments it's never been recognized that two-thirds have called for a specific topic uh... even though In 1979, the case can easily be made, and there are some efforts in courts right now to say, look, we did meet that threshold. So back then, and that was calling specifically for a balanced budget amendment. Now, I gave you a little bit of history on where the Convention of States started, and that kicked into gear back in 2012. when Convention of States was first launched. And there they started anew with a new wording of the call for a convention, which included term limits for Congress as well, and a limitation on the growth of government. But you could call it kind of a super-tabor, which included term limits. And there, I think there are up to 16 states that have passed that specific resolution calling for that convention. Now, I've got to address one other thing, and that is there are some of our friends on the right who say, oh, no, no, no, we'll have a runaway convention, and then they'll propose a new constitution, and all will be lost. Well, they're not reading the Article 5 very carefully, because it takes free force of the states... to then approve of anything. And, you know, if they point back to the Constitutional Convention that was held at our nation's founding, well, they didn't have Article 5 as a guidance and direction. But an Article 5 convention cannot run away. It can propose amendments, but those amendments mean nothing until three-fourths of the states sign off on it. That means in today's world, 13 states, if they refuse, then it goes nowhere. So anyway, I needed to kind of throw in that detail too.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, and I'm glad that you did because I was going to ask that question. So to get the convention called, and if it comes through the states, it takes two-thirds of the states to do that. But then the amendments that are proposed... three-quarters of the states have to approve it. Am I hearing that correctly?
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so it's a very high bar to get this done.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, very. And as I say, it really was... Well, okay, one other nuance here. A lot of resolutions call for a specific topic, but there have been a lot of resolutions passed by states calling for a general convention. And if you aggregate those calls for a general convention with a specific topic, such as the balanced budget amendment, that's why there's an argument that there are like 37 or 38 states, something like that, that technically had called for a convention that could have the charge of putting a balanced budget amendment together. But I still think COS is the biggest, best one. They have almost 3 million people that have signed on to say, yes, we support this. And as I say, 16 states, I believe, is what their number is right now. They need 34. That's what two-thirds is. But they're working hard, and I think they've got a fairly decent shot. And that's why I believe that if Elon Musk were to lend his support to this effort, then it would make a huge difference. in really fixing what I believe is one of the fundamental needs for our federal government, which is to put some shackles on Congress so that they can't go beyond, just like Tabor does to the Colorado Constitution, or government, I should say, through the Constitution. We need that same mechanism that will you know, insist that whether or not we've got a, you know, a real aggressive conservative government in place, we've got a constitution that says it's still supposed to be limited, limited to what you, you know, to the means you have. Don't spend money you don't own.
SPEAKER 12 :
So who would decide? Let's say that the, get to this, two-thirds of the states say, yes, we want to call a convention of the states. Who will decide who will represent each state?
SPEAKER 15 :
That's up to the state to send delegates. Here's the important principle, is each state has one vote in that convention. Just like they do when, if the House of Representatives is to select a president, which under certain circumstances that's what it is, California doesn't get any more vote than Wyoming in that decision. And that's the way Article 5 is structured as well, that the states, as states, not as an aggregate number of the big states get more votes than the little states. No, this isn't a decision by states. It's a core principle of the United States of America that the states have certain authority and independent sovereignty on their own. Each state It takes 34 of them, and it doesn't matter what size they are. And same thing when it comes to them recommending amendments. Once each state gets one vote, and you need a majority within that convention to move that on to the final step, which takes 38 states.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, Kevin, though, my question is, who decides? Can Jared Polis say that he's going to be one of the delegates? Who decides who those delegates would be?
SPEAKER 15 :
The legislature is the plenary body within each state, within our Republican form of government, you know, according to Article 4 in the Constitution. The legislatures will set up the mechanism for how their delegates are selected. And so, yeah, in a hard left state... The legislature may send some folks who have a very different opinion. But actually, I'm not going to name Colorado there because I'm not willing to say that we're as hard left as your policies, nor our legislature is. And I believe that, you know, this is representative government. And so That's how that works, is each state makes their own rules on who they send and how many they send, but they only get one vote.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, how does the vote occur to say that, yes, we want to call a convention of states?
SPEAKER 15 :
That is, again, a decision by the legislature through a resolution. And in Colorado, that does not include the governor's signature. A resolution only requires... A MAJORITY VOTE FROM BOTH HOUSES FOR THAT CALL TO OCCUR. AND COLORADO DID HAVE A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT. UNFORTUNATELY, THEY RESCINDED THAT. AND I EVEN QUESTION WHETHER THAT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE ONCE A CALL IS MADE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S A FACT, BUT THAT'S A LEGAL DETAIL THERE. So it's the legislature that has the authority to initiate the call through resolutions, and it's the legislature who has the authority to determine who then goes to that convention. And it's finally, well, actually, there was another detail, though. According to Article 5, it can be either the legislature approving that in that final step or conventions, which they did do. when prohibition was repealed, it was repealed by conventions, which means an assembly of citizens met to determine do we approve this or not. But that's That's getting into a complication that I'd need two or three more hours to describe.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, this has been a great information on this, and I really appreciate it. Kevin, we've got just about 30 seconds left. How would you like to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, a lot of things are going on, and I don't spend a lot of time talking with you on Article 5. But in my opinion, this is one of the most important – political actions that we can do in our time. Even as Tabor has had that much effect on Colorado, and it's been positive, so too, if we could initiate a control on Congress, it would have huge ramifications for our future generations.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and the bottom line is elections really do matter. Kevin Lumberg, thank you so much. We'll talk to you again in a couple of weeks. And thank you. I always appreciate it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sounds great.
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And their example is, evidence of the drug's effectiveness has been equivocal. And so your challenge is to use the word equivocal in a sentence today. And again, that is spelled E-Q-U-I-V-O-C-A-L. Our quote of the day is from James Madison. He was our fourth president, born in 1750, died in 1836. Yeah, excuse me, 1836. He said, if our nation is ever taken over, it will be taken over from within. And then I have added in, although I've missed it the last few days because we've had so much going on, a quote from George Washington's Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior in Company and Conversation. It says, show nothing to your friend that may affront him. So again, he says, put not off your... This is what he said. He said, put not off your clothes in the presence of others, nor go out of your chamber... And again, that is George Washington's suggestions on how to be civil and have decent behavior. And so again, super interesting that he would sit down and write a book like that. Did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. Great discussion with Kevin Lundberg. in our number one regarding Article 5 of our Constitution. And Todd, thank you for this clarification. He texted me. He's very involved with the Convention of States. He said 19 states, not 17, have passed Convention of States through both houses to date. And I think that benchmark, I had my notes here, was that we needed to get to two-thirds of the states to call for that convention. And I know that people are working diligently on that. And one of the main reasons that they want to get this called is to get this spending under control in Congress because we are spending ourselves into oblivion. And with that, the big beautiful bill, the Congressional Budget Office, the CBO, has said that this would increase spending significantly. We had had some of the representatives from the Center for Renewing America, and that organization was founded by Russell Vogt, who is the head of Trump's Office of Budget and Management. And one of the things regarding the CBO's predictions is they are using what's called a static model, economic model, where you input this, you get this output. They don't really incorporate what could happen if this economy really got to rocking and rolling, and this economy grew significantly, and lowering taxes on everyday people actually will stimulate the economy. And if the economy grows significantly, the bigger pie will increase tax revenues, which hopefully we can start to then decrease our deficit spending and decrease our debt. So I think that is the hope of what Trump is trying to get lined around on that. So stay tuned. We'll have to see how that goes. But this is from the Wall Street Journal. And it is by Rachel Wolf. And it was published yesterday. It says the U.S. economy is regaining its swagger. And if, in fact, we get this economy really rocking and rolling, then it's going to be very good for Americans. And when Americans are thriving and prospering, then it's good for the rest of the world as well. So we'll see what happens on that. But she went on to say in this article when President Trump slapped tariffs on nations across the globe this spring, many economists feared higher prices and spending cuts would flatten the economy. But that didn't happen. Businesses and consumers are regaining their swagger. And evidence is mounting that those who held back are starting to splurge again. So we've gone through a difficult time. But with this Trump economy, we get that going, that will be great. So I wanted to mention regarding the election last night for the Colorado State GOP vice chair, there was a vacancy that was created, and former state representative Richard Holthorff, won that race and my source says it was somewhat of a close race over Mark Hampton and so congratulations to Richard Holthorff on that and we have got to get to a point where we come to agree that we need to reclaim Colorado instead of all of this Republican fighting. We need to make sure that we are focused on the principles that we need to be so that we can reclaim this great state that we love. However, I had mentioned in the first hour that we've got a very powerful and influential group headed up by Josh Penry. It's called 76 Group. They do a lot of different things. They also have a company that does canvassing, that's Blitz canvassing, where they can do signature gathering to get candidates and issues onto the ballot. But I just recommend that you take a look. at 76 group and do what they what they do and you'll see a couple of things that over the years i have been very concerned about and a couple of those things were the gallagher amendment which they have right here on their website that they were running that campaign for yes on amendment b and of course the gallagher amendment once that was repealed It put in place – well, it took away the guardrails on residential property taxes. And within two years, we saw residential property taxes balloon significantly to a point where I'm concerned people may get taxed out of their home. So Josh Penry and the 76 group ran that campaign. They also ran the campaign on, yes, on Amendment 71, which I talked about in the first hour, has in place that to get an amendment passed to the state constitution, it was called Raise the Bar, was that at least 55% of voters needed to approve getting that amendment into the constitution. but to repeal an amendment that's in the constitution it only takes 50 plus one and of course tabor which was passed in 1992 by the people of colorado was put in place to again keep gar put guard rails on spending by government. And it basically says to PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, if you want to raise our taxes, you have to get our permission. If you want to keep excess revenue over a very generous formula of population plus inflation, you have to ask us. And then lastly, if you're going to incur debt that we have to pay off, you have to ask us. Now, the ink wasn't even dry before there were those that were trying to figure out ways to get around Tabor. 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SPEAKER 07 :
Good morning, Kim. Thanks for having us on the show.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And Blaine, welcome as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, thank you very much.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, Mark, give us some background information regarding your concerns on Chaffey County and the land use codes there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sure. I'd like to preface it with how I kind of got involved. I was helping out on a county commissioner race last year about this time, and it was then that this new draft land use code was floated out to the public when we first got a look at it. It had been in development for a long time. And so it was during these hearings for the land use code that I came to know some of the other landowners and I listened to their serious objections on the proposed code. Basically, a lot of people immediately recognized the problems. And so the fight kind of began at that point when we were protesting this adoption of the code. And so I cut to no blame through that process and some of the other people who were like-minded. I'd also like, before I get into the particulars of it, and Blaine's going to explain some things as well, I just wanted to say we might be using the term LUC, which is abbreviation for land use code, and also regulations or law. Those words are interchangeable with code. Some of the unique parts of this that people should be aware of are these regulations only apply to private property, not the public property. They also don't apply to the cities. So it's the land outside the cities in the county that this code applies to. Another important part is Chasey County is 83% public land. And of that 17 remaining private land, only 5% of that is left to build on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I think we're kind of in a unique situation compared to the front range. So there was kind of two phases. There was some planning commissioners Public hearings last fall, the Planning Commission was really the one that developed the regulations. And so there was a period of time where we attended those public hearings of the Planning Commission. Their goal was to determine whether or not they recommended to the county commissioners to adopt the code. So we protested. We all said our piece. and pretty much fell on deaf ears, and they recommended the code be adopted to the county commissioners. Okay. And then after that, there was another series of public hearings that the county commissioners held. But what we learned, and we're still learning about this code. It's 400 pages. It's really, like you said, you know, voluminous laws that nobody has time to read. But we've been working at it. And what we've learned so far is that private property rights have been violated. Many people's plans for their properties have pretty much been ruined. People have plans, right? They have dreams. Their dreams are their plans. And they don't necessarily share those with the planning department. They might you know buy a buy a mining claim or whatever and sit on it for for 20 or 30 years planning to retire and build a house there so um it's got plans so these plans have been in many cases have been shattered um like you say kim um plans uh this code is controls land it controls land through regulations We also found out that through some analysis, millions if not over a billion dollars of land equity had been stripped from individuals. We had a person in our group do an analysis of the financial loss. He looked at 45 miles of Arkansas River frontage and came up with a really high number. That's because they've changed the setbacks of building along the Arkansas River, which In some cases, just make some people's property worthless.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so what you're saying, Mark, and you're a property owner in Chaffey County, both you and Blaine?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. So this new land use code, which has just been passed in Chaffey County after all these years. So, for example, if someone had property along the Arkansas River, and the main cities in Chaffey County are Salida, Buena Vista, and Poncha Springs, that they could no longer... build where they wanted to on their property, the property they own that is along the Arkansas River. So hence, that means that maybe they might want to sell it to somebody else that might want to build there. That means that since they can't do that, that that reduces the property value. Am I following you correctly on that, Mark?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. It's kind of a point that takes a while to understand. And Blaine will get into this, but it's not an eminent domain situation where the actual ownership gets transferred. It's more of a taking of the equity in the land. It's called a regulatory takings. It's a land grab.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Through a regulatory takings.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, yeah, there's been a huge wealth transfer. to the public. The potential value, that's what we're talking about. Your equity is your potential value. And other benefits like the scenic beauty, that's been transferred from private property has been transferred to the public basically is what's happened.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. So Blaine, give us a sequence of events on how this happened.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, basically the state kind of recommended prior to 2020, recommended that all counties and municipalities develop a land use code, a comprehensive plan. And in between all of this was, I'm sure we've all heard the UN Agenda 30 by 2030 proposal. where it was an agenda for 15-minute cities, for getting denser and denser to the cities and towns. And in 2023, they basically stated that by statute that they're required to have a comprehensive master plan in Colorado. And so in 2020, Chaffey County did theirs. And by and large, like Mark had said, only 5% is developable land in the rural areas. We have lots of farm and ranch properties. I started out 45 years ago. I've been a CPA, and I work on valuations and conservation easements, and I worked in the lower Arkansas Valley, and farming wasn't sustainable then, and lots of farmers and ranchers had to sell their water rights. And I think that's kind of the motivation behind all of this, is it's squeezing private property owners, ranchers and farmers, basically... where they previously had one dwelling unit for two acres of their property, the land use code changed it to one unit for 35 acres.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that's not did, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which is drastic. Pardon? No, it's not. Yeah, it's completely contrary to the affordable housing plan contention that they're making. So to me, it's control. And so, I mean, six land use bills passed in Colorado State House May 2024, and Polis has signed them already. And this was basically prompted for affordable housing, moving density to 15-minute towns, and preserving open space. When they say preserve open space, they're basically converting it to a community benefit. And so what we're what we've Mark and I and all our group has rapidly expanded our base to fight the county commissioners on this and the Planning and Use Commission. What was interesting was in those six bills, the it gave the local governments right of first refusal to buy subsidized public type housing. And what we're finding up here in Chaffey County is they're basically PBIs of Chaffey Housing Authority is a state subsidiary. And one of our planning and zoning chairs is Don. That is the interim, excuse me, now the permanent CEO of of Chaffey Housing Authority.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that person's on the Planning Commission?
SPEAKER 08 :
He's the chair of the Planning Commission. Wow. And then you have the Chaffey Housing Trust, which is a 501c3 that gets money from public donations and buys up property.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. Okay. We've got to continue this discussion. I'm talking with the listeners, Mark Kostelik and Blaine Clark, citizens who are unpacking this regulatory takings of our land. And I had used the quote at the end of the show from James Madison regarding property rights. And this is why this discussion is really important. Mark and I have texted back and forth. really for at least a year on these particular issues. And I said, would you like to come on the show and talk about it? So it's really great that we have Marcus Delick and Blaine Clark on the line. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. And I really appreciate the Second Amendment, or the Second Syndicate, who is protecting our Second Amendment.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. As you all know, I totally support the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado, because of the great work that they're doing regarding these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. The Center is nonpolitical. It's nonpartisan, but they do amazing work. And be sure and check out Drew Dix's new podcast series, which you can find at the website. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And on the line with me is listeners Mark Kostelik and Blaine Clark. We're talking about Chaffey County and their land use codes. This came in from Jenny on the text line. The text line is 720-605-0647. And she said this, she said, land use codes, Central planning are communistic tools used to control private property. Mark is absolutely correct on this as a regulatory takings. And this could be part of the World Economic Forum's agenda, their 30 by 30 land grab. And we are at the forefront, I think, here in Colorado. Blaine. Explain a little bit more about this, because prior to 2020, you had more freedom regarding your property in Chaffey County, yes?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, for sure. Not only what we're finding in our group, our group is just building of landowners that they're realizing they can't do any major changes if they have. They previously had 50-foot setbacks from the riverbank, the high-water mark. And now it's 150 feet setback, which basically eliminates some of it, puts them right to the road that abuts their property. But it's not only just river property. It's farm and ranch, anything that's rural in the previous code. The rural basically allowed you to have one dwelling unit for two acres, which even includes mining claims up by St. Elmo and around Princeton and Antero. And people bought these mining claims 25 years ago. We have one friend of ours. And now... and they built culverts to get to their properties and, and planning on building a home for their kids and, and all of that. And in, in those designated areas that are, uh, forested and everything else, they, they can only have hunting sheds or, or, you know, 400 square foot units. They can no longer build anything. Uh, on their property.
SPEAKER 12 :
And this was a change with this new land use code?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, yes. And so what it really is, Kim, is basically all the rural places that usually have to get septic or wells to get water, those are the properties that are getting targeted. They want infrastructure to stay close to towns. They want to build the density close to towns. And in Chaffey and Salida, they basically have prefabricated homes that are stacked on each other. And they have those so that everybody can basically walk to their cafes or walk to the grocery stores or everything's within 15 minutes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, my gosh. Okay. Wow. So tell me a little bit about these new regulations. Who developed them, Blaine?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the Planning and Zoning Commission, what they had is they had one law firm out of the Denver area, Logan and Simpson, basically was working on the land use code and charged over $175,000 through 2023. But in 2024, they hired a new firm, Fairfield and Woods, out of Denver. And They took it over basically in 2024 across the finish line. The county attorney, Daniel Tom, who was the county attorney, left and resigned just before these land use codes were published at the end of September last year. And he got a severance package of $70,000 that we got through the CORA request. And when that was put into place around August of last year, the Planning and Zoning Commission, which had Marjo Kurgis, who is the chair of the Planning and Zoning Committee, was also, as I said, the interim CEO of Chafee Housing Authority. And now she is the permanent CEO of Chafee Housing Authority. And she was the one that basically had those hearings. And as Mark said, it fell on deaf ears. There was tons of people that said, I'm a landowner. I've lost $900,000 worth of value in my property if this land use code goes forward. Then the commissioners had hearings. And at the end of October, November, uh the commissioners heard the hearing and it was the same thing people complained talked about it and they passed it anyway and so what we're trying to do is some folks that were in our group had plans to build and expand their property And way back prior to a moratorium of building, that was another thing that was kind of creeped up on all the landowners is in June of 2022, they put an application process moratorium. And it was supposed to only last for six months. Well, it lasted for two and a half years.
SPEAKER 12 :
What was their premise on a moratorium on building?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because they were developing the new land use code. Aha.
SPEAKER 12 :
Aha. Okay. When I say they're playing long ball, they are playing long ball on this. Ginny had had a great point, though, is that these globalists are – thinking globally, but they're acting locally. They have taken over. And I really don't think that we should have these planning commissions because they're unelected, they're appointed, they're unaccountable to the people. And then you will see electeds, and I have that in air quotes, electeds then defer to the planning commission. They say, well, the planning commission studied this. This is their recommendations. But what it ends up is being a regulatory takings, as you said, Mark. And Susan said you guys are doing a good job of explaining why zoning and planning is such a challenge. And public property equals government property. And affordable housing is actually government housing. And those things are communistic. They're Marxist. Let's see here. I think I wanted to make sure. Okay, one other thing. You said the Chaffey Housing Trust, which is a 501c3. So what that means is that somebody could make a contribution, get a tax write-off, and then this housing trust could purchase land or property, in this case buying up mobile home parks, for affordable housing. So wrap that up for me on that, Mark. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I think Blaine would actually be better to talk about.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I used to audit counties a long time ago. And, you know, there's a conflict of interest clause in most county documents. And what the Chafee Housing Trust does is basically they buy up people that are – we do have an affordable housing problem, but the way they're fixing it is through government regulations and the PBIs and all these people that are making salaries with one organization, but then they're on the planning commission of another organization. And the Chafee Housing Trust which is the 501c3, they accumulate funds and buy, like, mobile home parks, but they can also buy apartments for folks. So they use the taxpayer-donated funds, and they're exempt, and they purchase the properties, but the cash flow, they can't get the cash flow except through Chavy Housing Authority. which is the government subsidy. It's an intergovernment organization. And that Chafee Housing Authority is the means to subsidize the rent. We have a big unit, a 60-unit item here that they had to mandate. EV charging units in every single one of them, but it's for affordable housing. Most people can't afford an electric car. So it's just a big circle of funds being transferred through a 501c3, but then our taxpayer money is paying for the salaries, which in this case is over $105,000 of the CEO of Chafee Housing Authority.
SPEAKER 12 :
Who is the chair of the planning commission?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, ma'am.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
The public mantra was that the community wanted the city to remain the city and the county to remain the county. They talked a lot about, and what that really boils down to is open space. They want open space, and that disproportionately targets the larger landowners like farmers and ranchers. So, yeah, it's a lot about open space. But instead of creating a conservation easement and compensating the landowner for that, they just basically sanction the rancher and not allow them to change the use because they're really after the open space. I know we don't have much time left. I thought I'd hit some of this. Another big item, at least for me, is that the county makes some claims on your property. They claim your property for the wildlife. They've got a wildlife map, which shows various quality habitat levels, and depending on your property and what it's wildlife habitat is designated that they can they can block you from doing what you want they also the county also claims private property as the community's visual resource which to me was a real eye-opener in other words they can claim your if they think your private property is visually attractive they They will block you from doing what you want with it because it really belongs to the community, the public. They even say visitors. Visitors to the county basically have a right to look at your property in a pristine state. So they'll block you from doing things there. They've done setbacks. They've attacked view lots. View lots are the most valuable, traditionally, lots that there are, lots that are near bodies of water, lots that are built on ridges, which, of course, have great views. regulations in there that prevent you from building on ridges and near bodies of water.
SPEAKER 12 :
Even if you own that property?
SPEAKER 07 :
Even if you own that property. They put in some big setbacks on streams, rivers, lakes, ponds. I learned last night that streams have a setback of 300 feet. That was from one of our group members that impacts him. So it's not – I think we've gone from a role of government of looking after safety, making decisions based on safety. Of course, the river has a floodplain, and you want to be safe, safe distance from the river. But they've broken through that barrier, and now they're staking claims on your property based on aesthetics. So I personally don't believe that aesthetics is the proper role of government. But there it is. That's what they're doing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. And Mark, yeah, and Mark, he and since we don't have much time, the big thing that Mark has gone through is they do incentives. And this has been talked through at the state level. Incentives for basically mandating conservation easements. In other words, where you had one unit for 35 acres, which used to be one for two acres, you can make and have two units if you set aside 67% of your property as open space. That's what Mark's alluding to, which is a mandated conservation easement. You don't get a tax break for that. And those, yeah, go ahead, Mark.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just wanted to add that that 67% that you have to set aside, that's in perpetuity.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. So in a way, it's like extortion. If you wanted to add an additional building onto your, have another building on your property, they say give a 67% of your land, basically, right? Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. They call it an incentive. It really is extortion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. In the comprehensive plan, Kim, they called it, and I've never seen this before, they called it conservation subdivisions. Goodness. And that was for all the rural properties.
SPEAKER 12 :
And your electeds voted to approve this? Yes. How many commissioners do you have?
SPEAKER 08 :
Three. Three.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Okay. Okay, I'm going to give you each about a minute to wrap this up. Let's go to you first, Blaine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, I'll just say that, you know, I wanted to kind of retire. But now we're just fighting public officials and unelected folks. basically taking private property rights. You know, I'm not a farmer or a rancher, but a lot of my friends are, and they really want to do succession planning. And they want to have their kids involved in their ranching arrangement. And this takes away the incentive for them to pass on their legacy. which is over 100 years with Mark and a lot of our friends, 150 years. So we just have to fight this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Thank you, gentlemen. We're going to have to stay on top of this. Mark Kostelik, your final thought.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, as Blaine said, it's a big impact to us. Our family ranch has been in place since 1905. And we had a lot of plans for it. I had a lot of plans for it when I retired, but I can't do them now. And it's just, and I feel for everybody who's been impacted, and I see this as, you know, being contagious. It may come to other counties in Colorado. So, you know, fair warning to everyone that this is coming and to try to, Perhaps stave it off before it affects your county.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, this is definitely an assault upon private property rights. It's a takings. And I've been concerned about conservation easements. But, Blaine, to your point, at least there was some compensation for conservation easements. But it still is giving up control of the land. And this is all... This is all planned out. I wonder who gave this law firm the language on all of this land use new codes, which is 400 pages long. We're going to have to have you guys back on. This is really important information. So, Blaine Clark, thank you. Thank you. We need to stand and take a stand on this. And Mark Kostelik, thank you so much. You're both just regular people that are heroes. So, thank you for standing up for property rights.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks, Sam.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks.
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And James Madison said this, he said, where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions. And they start with possessions, but you can walk that back, that'll go to opinions. And so today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Rick Hughes returns to The Flatline with a powerful message on learning to navigate life's challenges through faith. Focusing on the metaphorical use of 'walk' in the New Testament, he invites listeners to examine their spiritual lifestyle. Through Paul's works, particularly in his letters to the Colossians, Rick unveils the power of understanding and embracing Christ's teachings against false doctrines like Gnosticism. Throughout the episode, Rick emphasizes the need for believers to become rooted and built up in their faith. This journey involves taking up teachings from knowledgeable spiritual leaders and embracing the mechanics of the Christian life. Rick drives home the significance of being established in the faith, making sure listeners are aware that confidence in God's plan and maintaining fellowship through the Holy Spirit are key to spiritual growth. Echoing his own experiences and the voices of those he's encountered, Rick consistently motivates listeners to stay grounded in their beliefs. As he introduces his latest book offerings, listeners gain access to deeper knowledge and understanding, ensuring they are well-equipped to handle life's spiritual battles with grace and resilience.
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Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. It won't be long, just 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education, but all of it will be done without any type of manipulation because we're not gonna con you, we're not going to ask you for money, we're not going to ask you to join up, fess up, give up, nothing like that. But we will ask you to listen up. Listen to me as I try to verify and identify the plan of God for your life. And if it's possible, if I can do that, then you have the freedom and the privacy to orient and adjust to the plan if you want to do so. It's really up to you. But within the last few months, we've added many new radio stations to our broadcast coverage. Many, like yourself, are hearing the flotline for the first time. FLOT, F-L-O-T, is the name of the radio show, and some people may just change the station due to the content, and others, hopefully, you will be intrigued and stick around. Let me be honest with you up front. I have two simple objectives. My first objective is to give you the truth of the gospel message. So many people, so many individuals believe in God, but they do not know if they're actually going to heaven when their time on earth comes to an end. There's tremendous confusion and doubt brought about by failure to teach the scriptures accurately in regards to this message of eternal salvation. Let me tell you, there's no reason for you to doubt your salvation according to the scriptures. Listen to what John wrote in his first epistle. In 1 John 5.13, this is 1 John 5.13, not the book of John, but 1 John. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God. Notice he did not say you may hope you have eternal life. He said you may know that you have eternal life. And what did he say are the conditions in order to know you have eternal life? Answer that question. Well, in 1 John 5, 11 and 12, this is the testimony that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. There it is, in his Son. He who has not the Son has not life, and he who has the Son of God has eternal life. could not be any more simple than that. The question that you have to ask yourself is how do I acquire Jesus Christ? In John 1, 12, but as many as received him, those are the ones that he gave the right to become children of God to those who believe in his name. Believe in his name. Didn't say join up, fess up, give up. It said believe in his name. The Lord Jesus Christ made it plain in those words that he recorded in John 6, 40, And this is the will of the one that sent me, that everyone who sees the son and believes in him, there it is again, may have everlasting life and I will raise him up the last day. After the resurrection, our Lord ascended into heaven. So rest assured you won't see him again until his return for the church, which is you and me, the bride of Christ. But the fact still remains. Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the anointed son of God? Do you believe he's the savior of the world by his death, burial, and resurrection on that cross? Here's what he said in John 6, 47. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in me has everlasting life. Could it be any more simple than that? You can spend the rest of your days on earth trying to earn forgiveness for your sins, but it simply will not work. The Apostle Paul said this in Ephesians 2, 8 and 9, where he wrote, For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it's the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast about it. So please consider what I've said and believe in Christ's finished work on that cross and his glorious resurrection. In 1 Corinthians 15, three through four, Paul wrote, for I delivered to you, first of all, that which I received, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and that he was buried and he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Nowhere will you find any requirement to walk down an aisle, to raise your hand, to join up, fess up, or any other religious demand in order to be saved. So I encourage you, I encourage you to tell God in your own words that you believe in Jesus Christ, you believe in his anointed son, you believe he died as your substitute and you would like to receive him as your savior. Why do I encourage you to do that? Because Romans 10, 13 says, whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And you can do that right now, my friend. You can do that listening to my voice over this radio show. You can bow your head right now and simply pray a small prayer. Father, I believe Christ died for me and I want to accept him as my savior. That's all it takes. Your faith, God said it, you believe it. my second objective is to find those of you listening who are hungry to learn from the scripture just what god expects out of you now that you become a member of god's royal family many years ago i can't tell you how many years ago probably about 1975 that's many years ago 50 years ago i was speaking in schools across south georgia I ran into an individual who had received Christ as his Savior but was having a difficult time understanding the Bible. So let me tell you how it all happened because it is rather humorous. It's the story of meeting my precious friend, Harold Allen. I was in town speaking in schools and I had my bow and arrow with me because at that time I was an archery person. I did a lot of tournament archery. And I saw a sign that said indoor archery range. So I drove over to where the indoor archery range, and it was a sawdust floor, and it had just some old hay bales down at the end of a shooting lane. and I could pay $2 and go down there and shoot all I wanted to at targets and practice. So he watched me shoot for a little while, and he said, well, you're pretty good. I said, what are you doing in town? You got a tournament? I did not know at the time that he himself was an archer and an extremely great hunter. Well, I didn't want to tell him that I was there teaching Bible studies. I thought maybe that would turn him off. But I did. I said, well, to tell you the truth, I'm here teaching some Bible studies. He looked at me with a strange look on his face and he said, Bible studies? And I said, yes, sir. He said, just a minute. And Mr. Allen, Mr. Harold Allen, who's with the Lord today, he walked in the back of that shop, came back up front to the little counter, laid out a wrinkled up piece of paper and said, can you answer any of these questions? And I looked at it and they were all questions about the Bible. And I said, well, which one do you want me to answer? He said, start with the first one. So I did and answered the first, then the second, then the third. And then finally he said, that's enough. He got on the phone and he called a guy named Woody. He said, Woody, get over here. I think I found him. Come to find out, Harold and Woody had believed in Christ on their own, reading the Bible. But Harold, having a bait shop and selling worms and crickets and minnows and fishing lures and stuff like that, whenever someone would come in that he thought might be a preacher, he would ask him, what does this mean? What does this mean? What does this mean? And nobody could give him a straight answer. The end result was I gave him straight answers just like I'm giving to you today. He called his wife and he said, I'm not gonna be home tonight. I'm going to a Bible study. She was shocked. Carolyn said, what kind of Bible study? He said, I don't know. The guy answered the questions. That was the beginning of a lifelong friendship between me and Harold Allen and his precious wife, Carolyn. And that happened, like I said, about 1975. I call this type of hunger for insight to the Word of God positive volition. This is what I'm searching for as I broadcast my show, The Floodline, across the many radio stations that we air on. Simply put it this way, unless you learn how to live the spiritual life, by the way, I have a new book that's just coming out and you can get it free of charge by ordering it from our website. It's called The Christian Spiritual Life. So unless you learn how to live the Christian spiritual life, you will just wind up producing what the Bible calls wood, hay, and stubble as per 1 Corinthians 3, 11 through 15. The reason for that is many believers just simply do not understand the God they know. They know him, they know God, but they don't understand the God they know. They faithfully attend church every Sunday, but they never really get taught the mechanics to the Christian life. That's what we do on this radio show. We explain the mechanics to the Christian life. So let's focus on the word walk, W-A-L-K. This word is used extensively in the New Testament as a metaphor for the believer's lifestyle. So let's take one passage in Colossians and break it down. Colossians 2, 6 through 7. As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him. Paul the Apostle wrote these words to the church in Colossae during his imprisonment while he was in Rome. See, they had been confronted by some false teachers who came into town trying to recruit them, and these teachers were known to be teachers of a philosophy known as Gnosticism, Gnosticism. This type of teaching assigned to Christ a place subordinate to the true Godhead and undervalued his completeness of his redemptive work. It was an outright attack on the gospel, which Satan's strategy tried to stop the spread of Christianity. Without Paul's defense of the gospel in this letter, many would have been led astray. But there's no doubt believers in Colossae had been saved. Listen to the first words. As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him. I read that to you. Now listen to the next verse. Rooted and built up in him and established in the faith as you have been taught, abounding in it with thanksgiving. Wow, all right. What did he say? As you have been taught. We received Christ by faith and now we're established by faith. Rooted and built up in him, established in the faith. There it is again. In other words, we trusted the written word of the scriptures and conformed to what it said in order to be saved, which you did, I trust. And so now the next thing you gotta trust or have faith in is what the Lord Jesus said concerning their future lives. I produced a book last year entitled These Things, These Things. Funny name for a book, I know, but it listed all the major concepts or all the major doctrines that he gave the disciples the very last night he spent with them. It covers John chapter 13 to John 15, 11. Perhaps you should order it and learn what it means to walk in him. Don't forget the word walk refers to your lifestyle, which is referring to your spiritual life. The new book we got coming out, The Christian Spiritual Life. So there's two books you can order free of charge, The Christian Spiritual Life and These Things, all from our website, rickhughesministries.org. Go to the website and order them. They're free, you'll see, and you can order them right there. Now Paul went on to say in verse seven of this passage in Colossians, they have been rooted and built up in him. Rooted in him is the salvation experience and built up in him is the spiritual growth process. He said you've been established in the faith and that refers to the solid sound teaching they have received from Epaphras, their pastor. As you were taught, he said. Notice Paul said they were abounding and overflowing with appreciation. So here's some principles we can extrapolate out of this short verse. Number one, Epaphras probably had been led to Christ by Paul while he was in the town of Ephesus. And we assume he went back to Colossae and started a local church, teaching what he learned from Paul. In Colossians 4.12, Paul mentions Epaphras again. He said, Epaphras, who is one of you, a bondservant of Christ, greets you, always laboring fervently for you in prayer so that you may stand perfect and complete in the will of God. So one, Epaphras was probably led to Christ by Paul. Two, Paul's challenge to them was that they not be recruited by the Gnostics into their false teaching. He had to be very careful about that. And three, every Christian, every believer must be rooted and grounded in the basic essentials of the Christian faith. It's necessary. Every Christian must be rooted and grounded in the basic essentials of the Christian faith if they hope to glorify Jesus Christ at all with their spiritual lifestyle. Number four, Most important thing for you to grasp is eternal security because that gives you confidence in God's plan for your life. The second is how to maintain fellowship with God by means of the filling of the Holy Spirit. It's surprising how many believers don't understand the difference between their relationship with God and their fellowship with God. Next, the Bible talks about keep walking in Christ. And that requires momentum, spiritually speaking. taking in the word of God on a daily basis, consistently learning and applying what you've heard. If you're in a local church that's not feeding you spiritual food, you'll be malnourished and you will never grow to be a spiritually mature believer who represents Jesus Christ in his daily life. You know, the believer must first learn how to stand then how to walk, and eventually how to run in Christ Jesus. There are verses about all of this in the Bible. Would you like to hear them? Here's one. Watch, stand fast in the faith, be brave and be strong. You can't walk if you can't stand, can you? And then in 2 Corinthians 5, verse 7, for we walk not by faith, not by sight, but by faith. We walk by faith and not by sight, 2 Corinthians 5, 7. There's walking. And then we come to running in Galatians 5, 7. You were running so well, who hindered you from obeying the truth? That's what you have to do. You have to learn how to walk, stand, and run. That's the objective of my radio show. Hopefully, as we are able to bring these shows to you in the future, you'll be intrigued and encouraged to learn God's word and apply it into your life and come to understand what the FLOT line means. FLOT stands for Forward Line of Troops, F-L-O-T. That refers to 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the scripture, which were originally taught to me by my own pastor many years ago. When you learn these 10 unique problem-solving devices, they will form a main line of resistance in your soul, and they will stop the outside sources of adversity before they're able to build up momentum and become the inside source of stress. That being said, adversity is inevitable, as you know, but stress is optional, which you may not know. You do not have to have stress in your life. It's not necessary for you to have stress in your life. You may not realize this, but stress or worry or fear, these things are sin. And the Bible's clear about that. You cannot operate and glorify God and reproduce the Lord Jesus Christ in your life if you're full of worry and fear, self-pity. These are all stress indicators. That's why we teach those 10 unique problem-solving devices. And the very first one we teach, and you'll hear us refer to it over and over and over again, is the word rebound, R-E-B-O-U-N-D, rebound. That's a word for confessing your known sins to God. It's a metaphor which means if you bounce out, you bounce back. You bounce out of fellowship with God when you sin. You bounce back in fellowship with God when you rebound. And rebound is taught in 1 John 1, 9, among many other verses. It says, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and to purify us from all wrongdoing. If is a third-class condition that means maybe you will and maybe you won't. If we what? If we confess. If we confess our sins. Well, what does it mean to confess your sins? It means to get on your knees and pray and wail and cry and ask God to forgive you? The word confess is a compound verb called homo legeo, actually meaning the same to say. Homo legeo, the same to say. The word confess means to say the same. So if you confess a sin, you admit the sin. God, I just lied. God, I just lusted. God, I just got mad. God, I just lost my temper. God, I just cheated. Whatever the sin is, if you will name it on the spot, God is faithful and just to forgive you. If you don't name it, you quench the Holy Spirit and you grieve the Holy Spirit and you're out of fellowship with God. You're still in the relationship, you're still God's child and that hasn't gone anywhere, but you definitely are not in fellowship because you have quenched the Holy Spirit, you have grieved the Holy Spirit, And you will not be able to live the Christian life successfully until you rebound and get back in fellowship. This is something most Christians have to do every day of their life. If you drive in major cities like Atlanta or Houston or San Antonio or California, you learn how to rebound in traffic because people will do terrible things to you in traffic. I promise you. At least where I live, I'm in the country, so... On the way over to my office today, I did not pass not even one single course. I didn't have to rebound that. But you'll have to rebound constantly throughout the day when you find you committed a sin. Hopefully, as you grow spiritually, you'll get out of committing sin and you'll grow to maturity. and the sins that now so easily beset you will be gone and you'll forget about them and you'll learn how to live the Christian life getting victory over sin because Paul tells you that your sin nature is dead. You don't have to let it control you anymore. You have a choice and that choice is you can live by the means of the Holy Spirit or you can just go back and let the old sin nature control your life. But if you rebound when you sin, you stop the old sin nature from having any control. If you rebound when you sin, you'll put the Holy Spirit back in control. And that's problem-solving device number one, rebound. Tells you how to be spiritual. Not mature, but spiritual. If you're in fellowship, you're spiritual. but you're not necessarily mature. I've said it before, Billy Graham cannot be any more spiritual than you. If he was filled with the Spirit and you're filled with the Spirit, you're both spiritual. But he may be more mature than you if he's got the content of the Word of God in his soul that you don't have. So maturity is based on the content of the Word of God in your soul And spirituality is based on the filling of the Holy Spirit. I hope you understand that. I hope you'll hang with me because the second problem-solving device is the filling of the Holy Spirit. That solves the problem of our genetically formed sin nature. Because the Bible tells us, for by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and now death is passed on all, for all have sinned, and all have come short of the glory of God. You do not have to let your sin nature control your life, as I said. You can allow the Holy Spirit to control your life. That's why Galatians says, the flesh wars against the spirit, the spirit wars against the flesh. These are contrary one to the other so that we don't do the things we should. And then it goes on to say, if we'll walk in fellowship, we won't have to be allowing the old sin nature to control our life. So don't forget, you're gonna have this battle every day of your life. There's never a day gonna go by that the sin nature's not gonna raise its ugly head and try to take control of your thoughts, try to get you to worry, try to get you to be afraid, try to get you to be angry, try to get you to lust, try to get you to whatever. That's up to you. But when you find that you've failed, when you find you've committed a sin, don't hide it. And don't wait until you go to bed at night. That's silly. Don't say, well, okay, I'm at 10 o'clock at night. Now let me look back and, oh yeah, I sinned at eight o'clock this morning or nine o'clock this morning. All that means is you've been out of fellowship with God all day long, under control of your sin nature all day long. And now before you go to bed, you want to get back in fellowship, sleep in fellowship. That's ridiculous. When you sin, confess the sin on the spot immediately. And 1 John 1.9 says he'll be faithful and just to forgive you and cleanse you from all unrighteousness. You're going to say, I can't remember every sin. No, neither can I. But even the ones we don't remember, when we name the ones we're aware of, he cleanses us from the others as well. That's what that verse says, cleanse us from all unrighteousness. God doesn't have to worry about that. He knows what you did. He loves you. He cares for you. He gave you his Holy Spirit. He gives you the Bible, the Word. He gives you the instruction on how to live the Christian life. So it's really up to you. That's what this radio show is about. It's about plugging you in to what the Christian life is all about and hopefully helping you find a well-qualified pastor in your town. Some of the cities that this show plays in, I know there are great pastors in those towns. And if you don't know where a good pastor is, if you'll contact me through our website, rickhughesministries.org, you can email us from there. And if you want to order the books, you can go there and order the books as well, rickhughesministries.org. If you have a question about where there's a good pastor, we'll try to help you find a great qualified pastor. especially if it's one that I know about close to you. Okay? And there's so many things that we're going to talk about on this radio show. Hopefully, this is just the beginning. Hopefully, you'll come back next week at the same time, same station, same place, and listen, because next week we're going to talk about something entirely different. We're going to talk about why words matter. Why words matter. I love being with you on the radio show. We've just completed 20 years of the Flatline. 20 years of doing this. Maybe God will give us a few more years, I hope. And I hope that for your sake, not for my sake, but for your sake, so that this will be like a window or a door open to you that gives you some information and some answers that you need. I hope to inspire you. I hope to challenge you. And I hope to see you respond and glorify God to the maximum in your life. What a great privilege I have to be able to do this. It's all by grace. Some people ask me, how do you afford this? We just trust God to pay for it. That's how we afford it. They don't give us the time free. We have to purchase the time. And so my associates and I just believe that God's in it. God will pay for it. So we launch out by faith. Right now, by faith, we're broadcasting in 126 stations. across this country.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100 Cropwell, Alabama 35054 or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this episode, Mike Gallagher confronts the bubbling issues of race and politics surrounding the Axios-cited 'Alligator Alcatraz,' myth of gator baits, and politician power strategies. Engage with insight into the latest episode revealing many layers of intent from key political leaders and strategists, and join the call to aid Texas flood victims as Gallagher rallies his audience for impactful contributions in trying times.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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It's been quite a weekend. We have a ton of breaking news to share with you. Of course, we're six months into Trump's second presidency. As Mark Thiessen writes over at the Washington Post, Trump has been on an amazing run. I'm not sure we've ever experienced the kind of accomplishments, achievements and policy victories that we've been witnessing for the last six months. And it's quite a list. But the Democrats are not, of course, going to go down without a fight. There's huge news from Tulsi Gabbard, the director of national intelligence, about the role that the Obama administration played with regards to the debunked Russia collusion narrative that Russia helped get Trump elected in 2016. I've got to give you an update on that. There are all kinds of updates. A lot of stuff is breaking, but I've got to take you to Florida. And I want to start with our newsman, Roger P. Shulman, who knows Florida like the back of his hand. He's been covering Florida politics and news for many, many years. The story from Axios, Axios.com, Axios Tampa Bay, made me think I was completely suffering from a stroke. The article complains about Alligator Alcatraz, and Roger, we know by now that Alligator Alcatraz is this facility in the Everglades, right, that the federal government, in cooperation with Florida, has installed to house the illegals before they get deported, right?
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That's exactly correct.
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Okay. I don't know how familiar you are, how much you watch or read Axios, but while complaining about the fact, according to the Axios article today, that alligators don't really like to eat people, there's a new twist on the opposition. Share with us what the latest complaint is, at least from Axios, about alligator alcatraz.
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Well, that alligators are racist. This is kind of a ridiculous level of discourse that has been brought up. The Democrats do not like alligator Alcatraz at all. And an alligator expert says the idea that alligators lust for human flesh is rooted in racism. Dating back to Jim Crow and tourists could buy postcards illustrating black children as gator bait. Now, we did have some very bad times in the racist era, but the idea around alligators being inherently dangerous, according to Mark Ashera, a wildlife expert, is wrong. I tend to disagree. Alligators are quite dangerous. They do attack people and dogs and anything else if they're hungry. If they're hungry. Maybe it depends on whether they've eaten or not. Yes. Now, the false but racist belief that alligators inherently like the taste of black fresh flesh proliferated in the South. It was just one of these racist myths. Alligators like any flesh. They like dogs. They like cats. They like you. They like me. If we happen to be there in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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And they'll make excellent guards. Not according to Axios. They prefer apparently black children as gator bait, according to the Jim Crow era. And therefore, I mean, I'm not kidding you, Roger. You've been a newsman a long time. I know I don't want to ask you to rip into fellow journalists, but this is an actual article at Axios Tampa Bay. A woman named Catherine Varn headline alligator Alcatraz leans on myth steeped in racism. The fact is the alligator lusting for human flesh. rooted in racism, dating back to Jim Crow, and they include a postcard in the article, Roger, of little black kids sitting on the bank, and they're portrayed as gator bait. I mean, Roger, you can't make this stuff up.
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No, and the people who are in Alligator Alcatraz are of a variety of races, most of them white, Hispanics who are going back to their countries, and they will bite them or anybody else. You and I were talking about going down there and checking the security and maybe having me go in the water and see how bad it is, but... No, alligators will eat you whether you're fat, thin, white, black, any race. If they're hungry, they're very, very dangerous.
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And you can confirm that. As a decades-long Florida newsman, just to confirm, there are numerous examples, news stories of alligators. attacking humans, correct? And dogs.
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And most of the humans they attack. Yes, there are. And most of the humans they attack happen to be white.
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Thank you, Roger. I appreciate it. Roger P. Shulman, I'm telling you, we're stepping into a level of madness that is unprecedented. I'm not kidding you. Key to the marketing ploy, they write at Axios, underpinning Florida's detention camp in the Everglades is the alligator, portrayed by Republican leaders as a bloodthirsty prison guard ready to attack anyone who escapes. Nothing about that portrayal is accurate. Experts in alligator biology and history tell Axios. And not only is it inaccurate, they don't really want to eat people and dogs and stuff. The idea of the alligator lusting for human flesh rooted in racism, the idea as ferocious human-eating beasts dates back to accounts from William Bartram, a naturalist from Philadelphia, who in the late 18th century traveled to the southeast. And there's the myth that The belief that, the false racist belief that alligators like the taste of black flesh. Oh boy. I'm telling you, we need like, we need, I'm going to make one trip. We're going to load up the buses and we're going to make it to the border. We can make it to the border by midnight. We can. And we have to. I posted that over the weekend when I read about the incumbent in Minneapolis, Jacob Frye. Are you ready for that? Now, we got Mamdani in New York, right? Now you've got State Senator Omar Fatah. He won at least 60% of the Minneapolis... Democrat delegate vote Saturday, defeating the incumbent mayor. I guess he's not woke enough. They've got to go to this guy who's born in D.C. but clearly Somalian and has talked about wanting Minneapolis to be like Somalia. And he's going to be the Democrat mayor in Minneapolis. This is the first defeat of a mayoral candidate incumbent in 16 years. Fatah won by a clear visual vote of delegates holding up their badges. Do you know about Omar Fatah? He makes... Joe Ron, or what's his first name? I'm drawing a blank on his name. What's his first name? Zoran. He makes Zoran Mamdani look like Dan Bongino. This guy, Omar Fattah, this is happening in blue cities now all over the country. And I think I know why. And I'm going to share with you a theory as to why this is happening. I believe that blue cities are going to elect some of the most radical... far left lunatics possible and i think i figured out why that and a whole lot more as we welcome you into a monday july 21st holy cow i've got some great news to share with you about our food for the poor campaign to help the texas flood victims we've got some challenging news to share with one another the only news i want is to see my phones light up like a little christmas tree join us 800-655-MIKE will put your voice front and center here in the Relief Factor Studios. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Hope you join us. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Look what's happening. He's gone up. Why? Because while we're all sitting here dealing with this nonsense, out in real America, he's signing legislation on fentanyl. He's talking about the AI future in Pennsylvania. He's securing the border.
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Taking health care away from 17 million Americans.
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So his numbers are going up with Republicans. This is a fantasy that Democrats have been engaging in since January that Republicans would abandon. No, no, Scott, do not.
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It's not happening.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Poll after poll shows that Trump's support among Republicans continues to skyrocket, and I'm convinced that the reason for that is that Republicans aren't being fooled by the distractions. All of this, there's so much noise right now, and there are so many distractions. But the things that matter, matter more. to normal Americans, most of whom happen to be Republicans. For example, over the weekend came this bombshell. And this is a story that is so important. This is a story that is so crucial. There are people who believe that Barack Obama and everybody involving the Russian collusion... scheme should be in prison in fact Trump himself even posted or the Trump administration posted a AI video of Barack Obama being handcuffed and escorted out of the Oval Office in front of a smiling Donald Trump but the story is not AI it's not a meme it's not a joke this is very real the Obama administration knew, according to Tulsi Gabbard and the Trump administration, in this bombshell document that was released after we got off the air Friday, the Obama administration knew before and after the 2016 election that Russia did not affect the votes outcome through cyber attacks. Here's the way it was reported Friday night on Fox News Channel's special report with Bret Baier.
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The potential blockbuster scandal from documents released by the director of national intelligence today. Fox News Digital reporting the Obama administration allegedly manufactured and politicized intelligence to create the narrative that Russia was attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election. This reportedly happened despite intelligence stating otherwise. Chief Washington correspondent Mike Emanuel has some stunning details tonight. Looking into it, this release today. Good evening, Mike. Brett, good evening to you.
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DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassified documents today from before and after the 2016 election, promising they would show the American people how intelligence was politicized and weaponized by some key figures in the Obama administration. She talks about it in an interview airing on Hannity this evening.
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You have some of the most powerful people in our country directly leading at the helm, President Obama and his senior most national security cabinet, essentially making a very intentional decision to create this manufactured, politicized piece of intelligence.
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According to the documents, August 31st, 2016, a Homeland Security official tells then DNI James Clapper that there was, quote, no indication of a Russian threat to directly manipulate the actual vote count. On September 9th, 2016, officials argue the presidential daily brief should make clear that Russia, quote, probably is not trying to influence the election by using cyber means to target election infrastructure. Then after the election, the tone appears to change. On December 9th, 2016, the documents revealed the Obama White House held a National Security Council Principals Committee meeting on a sensitive topic. It included then-DNI James Clapper, John Brennan, the CIA director, Susan Rice, who was National Security Advisor, Andrew McCabe from the FBI, and others. After that, an email came out to Intelligence Committee leaders from an aide to Clapper saying the intelligence community was prepared to produce
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What happened? We lose the video? I guess we lost the video there at the end. But that's part of a report on Fox News Channel. Now, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you if you're upset about the Epstein scandal. Don't you think that treason is a little more important than this dead, degenerate Jeffrey Epstein? This may be why the media and the Democrats are whipped up into such a frenzy over Epstein, because they don't want anybody to pay attention to what is quite possibly an administration that was doing everything it could to subvert the will of the American people, undermining Undermining our democratic republic and enacting what was essentially a years-long coup against President Trump and his administration. The first four years of the first term of Trump's presidency, his first term was hampered and hamstrung and clouded by the claims of Russian collusion. Jesse Waters broke it down this way on Fox News Friday night.
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We just got a peek inside Obama's black book, and it turns out Barack knew the Russia hoax was a hoax all along, but pushed it anyway to sabotage the Trump presidency. DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassifying pages and pages of documents showing Obama's intel guys briefed him just weeks after the 16 election that the Russians didn't actually sway the election. Quote, we assess that Russian and criminal actors did not impact the recent U.S. election results. Criminal activity also failed to reach the scale and sophistication necessary to change election outcomes. But Obama just couldn't accept that. So he and his staff instructed intel agencies to cook up new reports to support Russia collusion. After the meetings, Clapper's executive assistant emailed intelligence community leaders, tasking them to create a new intelligence community assessment per the president's request that detailed the tools Moscow used and actions it took to influence the 16 election. Tulsi Gabbard described what she found as a conspiracy to subvert the will of the American people. And she says the people involved should be prosecuted and has made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice. We knew Hillary created the dossier, and now we have proof that Barack was calling the shots and the documents to prove it.
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Do you realize how big this is? You know what frustrates me is the initial, immediate, instinctive reaction from people who I know and trust is, ah, nothing will happen. Ah, Obama will get away with it. Ah, Hillary, that's okay. Brennan, Clapper, they'll get away with it. There won't be any accountability. I don't think so. I don't think so. A rather cynical friend of mine said, after the way that Pam Bondi mishandled the Epstein case. Now, that's my friend's words, not mine. I'm not fully convinced that she mishandled anything. I think she did, but I can't be sure. But this friend of mine, real plugged into politics, said to me quite confidently, after the way the administration mishandled the Epstein story, you can bet your bottom dollar they're going to go after the culprits of the Russian collusion hoax. with both guns, with both barrels blazing. They will absolutely hold a number of people accountable for what could have likely been, if this is true, treason. This is a treasonous conspiracy. This is Obama and his senior national security team subverting the will of the American people. And spending years with a coup against Donald Trump. This is massive. And I get annoyed. I brought this up to a friend of mine this morning. I won't mention any names. Mark Davis. Mark was like, ah, nothing will happen. Nobody's going to... They're not going to string. They're not. But might he be facing... I get that there's a great degree of presidential immunity. Does it include something this massive? Could Barack Obama be facing prosecution? Over the weekend, President Trump rather playfully posted an AI scene depicting Obama saying, being taken out of the White House in handcuffs. You've got to see this clip. It's funny. I mean, it's not real, but if you haven't seen the clip, of Obama and Trump sitting together in the Oval Office and the feds coming in and wrestling Obama to the ground and putting him in handcuffs and leading him out with Trump smiling, you've got to see this. It's hysterical. I mean, it's terrifying because it looks so real. If you want to see that video that Trump released, and we'll get it to Christian here in just a moment. We've got some technical problems going on, I think, so we're a little behind the eight ball. But, Tracy, if you can make sure Christian has that video too, please, so we can post that on Salem News Channel. It's hysterical. But if you want to get a clip of it on the MyPillow text line, just text the keyword treason to 800-655-MIKE, and we'll send you back the AI scene depicting Donald Trump being taken out of the Oval Office in handcuffs. It's wild. It's wild. 800-655-MIKE. What an incredible story this is. And this is the story that every American should be talking about, and certainly one that we're talking about as well here on the Mike Gallagher Show. Give me your reaction to this bombshell from the Trump administration about Barack Obama and his senior intelligence team. This is pretty epic. 800-655-MICHAEL. We'll see what you think. We're partnering with our friends at the nonprofit relief agency, Food for the Poor, and rushing emergency relief kits to these flood-ravaged part of the world. 128 people confirmed dead. Many, many more are still missing. As you know, President Trump and the First Lady visited the flood zone in Texas over the weekend. As you can hear, he was pretty emotional. You can hear in the sound of his voice about what he witnessed. They lost everything.
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There's a ton of breaking news stories. There's all kinds of news out of Minneapolis. There's a new kid in town, a guy, a Somalian named Omar Fattah. Apparently, Democrats aren't content with just Zoran Mamdani in New York. Now they're looking at transforming Minneapolis. And this guy is going to apparently be the Democrat nominee for mayor, and you ought to get a load of this guy. You think Zoran Mamdani is bad? Oh, boy. Did you hear about the illegal who shot an ICE agent in the face? The guy that shot the ICE agent apparently been arrested over and over and over again. There's a lot. And, of course, the Epstein story and the guy that got caught on the KISS cam at the Coldplay concert, he wound up resigning from his position in disgrace. Lots of stories that we could sink our teeth into, but there is nothing. And I mean nothing as consequential, as important, as significant as what was released Friday by the Trump administration and what we've learned about President Obama and his senior national security team. Tulsi Gabbard has referred what they discovered to Pam Bondi's Justice Department. And I know you're going to say, whoa, whoa, whoa, is she going to do anything? Is Pam Bondi going to do anything about it? I would submit to you that it's all the criticism she's getting over the Epstein case that will propel her to absolutely hold people accountable for this Russia collusion hoax. Tulsi Gabbard, according to Everything that was released Friday night, Tulsi Gabbard is now telling reporters that this was manufactured intelligence that led to a treasonous conspiracy to commit a years-long coup against the Trump administration. I want you to hear a conversation... between Fox News Channel's Bill Hemmer and Matt Taibbi. Matt Taibbi is a veteran investigative journalist, and he had some very intriguing and compelling things to say about this bombshell, and I do mean bombshell with a capital B, that was revealed after we got off the air Friday, and I want to make sure you are well aware of it today on Monday.
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A lot of the usual suspects, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, etc. But also Barack Obama's mentioned in a lot of this. And you read at Racket News that a source had told you that Obama is now, quote, center square in the Russiagate scam. Go ahead and explain that. Then I've got questions for you after that.
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Sure. So the last major revelation that came out was that Trump, John Brennan and James Comey were the focus of criminal investigations that have been opened by the Justice Department. But these new documents that were released by Tulsi Gabbard and the director of national intelligence make it clear that the investigation is now aimed at the Obama White House and in particular at Barack Obama because of decisions that were made in early December of 2016 to suppress the presidential daily briefing and go ahead and order a new intelligence community assessment that ultimately would have much more aggressive conclusions about Trump and Russia.
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Hmm. So a lot of this December 2016 into January of 2017, I'm assuming also, you know, but Trump's people were in there for four years and the current CIA director had his job for eight months at the time. I just did his people fail him. Why wasn't there more urgency on this and Trump 1.0 as there is now?
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Yeah, that's a complaint I heard a lot over the weekend from people who have been following this and even from former officials who are close to Trump. One of them said to me, a former high ranking Trump official said there was, quote, so much corruption in the last Trump presidency that this shouldn't have been overlooked, that these documents should have come out. Absolutely. But the overall sense I get is that everyone's happy that they finally are coming out and they're looking forward to what is likely to come out this week.
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OK, another question about Russia is the allegation they were trying to influence our election or is the allegation that they actually change votes? I think we need to be clear on that. What can we say?
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So it's both. The Democrats are making a lot of hay over this apples and oranges issue that there was never any question that they didn't actually change vote tallies, but they did influence the election. Actually, there was some question about whether they had the ability to influence. influence the election. There were quotes earlier from that year with the FBI saying they didn't have any evidence that they had done so, and they were uncomfortable making that statement. There were also quotes saying that they lacked evidence that Russia had the ability to impact the outcome of the election. So all of this would have been passed on to somebody like michael flynn um because presidents elect are entitled to receive the presidential daily briefing that's why this is important it's not so much what the pdb did say it's what it didn't say it didn't say that there was a sweeping conspiracy to help trump and if they had that it would have been a very different political picture going forward okay it looks like it's the doj's call next and we'll see what they do
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It was kind of wild. And... And then a restful weekend where I binged on a couple of things that were so fascinating. There's an Amazon Prime video series on Brian Kohlberger and the murders of those four college kids in Idaho. What an incredible story. I got more of an understanding of why he probably did it based on that series, so I If you're a true crime fan like I am, you might want to watch that documentary. Also saw a great documentary on Billy Joel. Wow. It's a big, epic look at his life, his work, his music. So a lot of good stuff to binge on. And we've got to have a life-work balance here. We've got so much to cover here. But, I mean, this is Tulsi Gabbard. Here she was with Maria Bartiromo on Fox News Channel explaining why this story is so profoundly significant. To quote one texter on the MyPillow text line, this would shake our country at its very foundation if confirmed.
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The implications of this are frankly nothing short of historic. Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office. after President Trump had already gotten elected. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic. What we saw occur here, as the documents we released detailed, was that we had a sitting president of the United States and his cabinet and leadership team, quite frankly, who were not happy with the fact that President Trump had won the election, that the American people had chosen Donald J. Trump to be the next president, commander in chief of the United States. And so they decided that they would do everything possible to try to undermine his ability to do what voters tasked President Trump to do. So creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that that claims that Russia had helped Donald Trump get elected. contradicted every other assessment that had been made previously in the months leading up to the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia neither had neither the intent nor the capability to try to, quote unquote, hack the United States election for the presidency of the United States. So the effect of what President Obama and his senior national security team did was subvert the will of the American people, undermining our Democratic Republic and enacting what would be essentially a years-long coup against President Trump, who was duly elected by the American people.
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On the subject of Democrats, a brand new CNN poll out today shows that Democrats' favorability among Americans is at its lowest point in the history of CNN's polling back to 1992. Only 28% of Americans view the Democratic Party favorably.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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That was Jake Tapper from CNN. His conversation with Beto O'Rourke was probably... Well, almost as significant as the Tulsi Gabbard reveal Friday night about the Russia collusion hoax. I love it when Democrats reveal themselves. I really do. I appreciate the honesty, the raw honesty of what the Democrats are about. It's not about truth. It's not about facts. It's not about the will of the people. Democrats aren't winning elections. Look at all the losses that they've racked up. And Beto O'Rourke knows about losing. He's like the Stacey Abrams of Texas. He runs all the time. He never wins. Stacey Abrams never wins. Hillary lost. Kamala lost. These guys are faced with a string of defeats, and it's all for them about getting back into power. And they don't care about the will of the people. They don't care that their ideas are failing. They'd rather bloviate about Stephen Colbert. Who gives a rat's rear end about Stephen Colbert? You know why they're trying to distract? Because they're losing. They're losing in the arena of ideas, of policies. Their policies don't work, and they know it. But I've got to play this clip for you. I should have played it more often. Look, the Russia collusion story is such a hugely important story. But it goes hand in hand with what Beto O'Rourke was willing to admit to Jake Tapper in an interview on CNN. Check this out.
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Gavin Newsom in California has talked about a redistricting in his state. I think it's time that we match fire with fire. I think Democrats in the past too often have been more concerned with being right than being in power. And we've seen the Republicans only care about being in power regardless of what is right.
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So you support the Newsom effort because California right now has an independent commission that does districts in as fair a way as possible and nonpartisan as possible. You're saying Democrats should, even though you don't approve of it, Democrats should do it, too.
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We have to get serious. We have to be absolutely ruthless about getting back in power. So, yes, in California, in Illinois, in New York, wherever we have the trifecta of power, we have to use that to its absolute extent.
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Thank you, Beto O'Rourke, for saying what most Democrats are unwilling to say out loud. You guys are only about ruthless power. Ruthlessness in getting back into power. And they will do everything they can to get back into power next year. They will look, if these reports are correct... They used a phony Russia collusion story to try to stop the first Trump term. What do you think they'll do in the second Trump term? They'll do everything they can to impeach him. They'll impeach him every day of the week. We'll have a record amount of impeachments if these Democrats get in power in the House of Representatives. They don't even need the Senate. It won't even matter... They don't need a conviction. They're just going to want to throw whatever they can at him. And we better be up to the task. I think we are. I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. I like our chances. I really do. I liked our chances heading into the 2024 election, and I was right. I liked our chances of watching Joe Biden get kicked to the curb. I was right. I've got pretty good instincts. And my instinct is good things are coming. But you've got to be engaged. You've got to be involved. You can't be on the sidelines. Portions of our show are sponsored by Americans for a Balanced Budget. This is a way for you to get involved, too. This is an important issue because key health care tax credits are set to expire at the end of the year. If that occurs, 24 million Americans could face skyrocketing health care costs. Millions may lose their coverage entirely. Congress has to act to protect these vital tax credits for Americans who happen to buy their own health insurance. found that almost 80% of voters, including over 70% of Trump supporters, are more likely to vote for candidates who preserve these important credits. Americans for a Balanced Budget is calling on Congress to protect the full promise of the One Big Beautiful Bill. The One Big Beautiful Bill passed. Now it's important to prevent a devastating health care tax hike. Again, your voice counts. Visit StopHealthCostHikes.com and make sure your voice is heard. Tell Congress to protect the tax credits, stop the rising costs, and act before it's too late. Visit StopHealthCostHikes.com. That's StopHealthCostHikes.com. Charlie's in Indianapolis, 21 before the hour. Charlie, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Hello. Thank you, thank you. Appreciate it. How are you? I'm good. How are you doing? I'm good, I'm good. I'm just amazed at this bombshell story. How about you?
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Yeah, well, you know, I am amazed. I hope we see some action out of it. I'm almost 60 years old, so history is... not looking good as far as uh uh thinking that something's going to be done you know we we've heard all the things we the laptop we heard about hillary everything she did with the emails and and we were told that she paid for for the russia gate um you know mike i i go back to uh jfk uh They blew the brains out of the sitting president and nobody went to jail for that. I know. I know.
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Look, we've been let down. But if you're going to go back to 1963, go back to 2016 or 2020 or go back for the last few years. Look at what they have done to Republicans. Look at how many Republicans have had to pay the price. Look at how many lives have been destroyed by what the Democrats have done to them. Look, it can be done. Now the shoe has to be on the other foot. And in a way, not out of the ruthlessness that Beto O'Rourke describes, but out of a search for truth, out of a quest for facts. It can be done. It needs to be done. It must be done. Look, if this is true, Tulsi Gabbard is right. It was, in fact, manufactured, a manufactured hoax that was done in order to commit a treasonous conspiracy. Tulsi Gabbard is absolutely correct. Here was Jesse Waters' take about it on Fox News Friday night.
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We just got a peek inside Obama's black book, and it turns out Barack knew the Russia hoax was a hoax all along, but pushed it anyway to sabotage the Trump presidency. DNI Tulsi Gabbard declassifying pages and pages of documents showing Obama's intel guys briefed him just weeks after the 16 election that the Russians didn't actually sway the election. Quote, we assess that Russian and criminal actors did not impact the recent U.S. election results. Criminal activity also failed to reach the scale and sophistication necessary to change election outcomes. But Obama just couldn't accept that. So he and his staff instructed intel agencies to cook up new reports to support Russia collusion. Quote, After the meetings, Clapper's executive assistant emailed intelligence community leaders, tasking them to create a new intelligence community assessment per the president's request that detailed the tools Moscow used and actions it took to influence the 16th election. Tulsi Gabbard described what she found as a conspiracy to subvert the will of the American people. And she says the people involved should be prosecuted and has made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice. We knew Hillary created the dossier, and now we have proof that Barack was calling the shots and the documents to prove it.
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Wow. It's huge. All of it is big. It's enormous, actually. I just got a text on the MyPillow text line. Mike, play that clip over and over. That's the truth coming out, what Beto O'Rourke said. They won't stop at anything until they get exactly what they want. Don't worry, we're going to play that clip a lot. You're going to hear a reminder of what the Democrats are really all about. Not truth, but power. Power. Power.
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Mike Gallagher. Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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What?
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Nobody pandered more than Jacob Fry. Do you remember him weeping over George Floyd? Oh, my gosh. I mean, he did everything he could to pander and to pretend and to fawn. It didn't get him anywhere. They kicked him to the curb anyway. It didn't even matter. I mean, every single person needs to take a lesson from this. You can't pander to the left. No other mayor, Mark, groveled more at the feet of BLM and DEI than Jacob Fry. And they still tossed him aside like trash for someone who calls Somalia home. Precisely. He wants Minneapolis to be more like Somalia. He has said that. And people are okay with that. They love it. They do love it. Now, there's excitement for him. There's excitement for Mamdani. I've got to ask you a question.
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This guy makes Mamdani look like Dan Bongino. No kidding. This is bad.
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But this is really happening, so I have to ask you why it's happening. I've got a theory. I've been thinking about this over the weekend. I think what's happening is the left believes they should self-correct Trump's victories. We've got six months of a list full of Trump accomplishments that are some of the most stunning and consequential accomplishments of any president in our lifetime, Mark. And I think they believe, all right, let me quote Beto O'Rourke. Mm-hmm. Better O'Rourke.
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Let's have people return their cars to the road.
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Well, have you heard the clip of him that's going viral that we have to be ruthless in reclaiming power? I know. The Democrats, this is what they're about, is ruthless power. And sometimes people like Beto O'Rourke say it out loud. They say the quiet part out loud.
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They do us the favor of revealing what's in their heads and their hearts.
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They're revealing what's in their heads. And so Beto, and I'm going to play this clip until you're tired of it today on the show, because this is what they care about. Winning doesn't work for them. Hillary lost. Biden lost. Beto, Lord knows, Beto lost. I mean, they lose. They're not winning with votes. So they've got to look at redistricting. They've got to look at playing dirty. They've got to look at trying to throw charges at Trump and all this crap. They are about ruthless, ambitious power. And so I'm wondering if this crazy, wild-eyed move towards communist, Marxist, socialist looney tunes like Mamdani and Omar in Minneapolis, is that part of this effort to get ruthless power back? Of course it is.
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And you have to wonder about its ultimate wisdom because you'll get the occasional Mamdani who may or may not win for mayor of New York. You'll get this guy like Omar Fatah who may or may not win for – probably will win for mayor of Minneapolis. He doesn't have a busy four-person election to navigate his way through. Right. Is that just a function of the moment in a Somali heavy city like Minneapolis? Or is it emblematic of something that is broader, something that the Democratic Party is slowly turning itself into? And if it is, as you've described, a thirst for power, an attempt to rattle the cage and reclaim power in some bold way, how can it do anything but fail miserably? Because for every Mamdani, for every Omar Fateh in Minneapolis, there's still more Democrats in America still who are saying, man, I miss JFK. Man, I miss Joe Lieberman. Man, I miss Bill Clinton, some of them are saying. Bill Clinton would be a center-right figure by today's measure. If it's a quest for power, it's doomed.
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Well, the Somalis alone won't get this guy elected. So you're right. It's either doomed because normal, reasonable people, Democrats, if there's any left, are going to say, uh-uh, we can't do this. We can't. I mean, to hear this guy talk about making Minneapolis like Somalia is stunning. And you think about this. And I do believe he was born here in the United States, if I'm not mistaken. Tracy, can you fact check that for me and see if Omar Fattah was born here or not? Born in D.C. That's what I thought. Yep. But certainly Somali and his family from Somalia. You think about the image of people migrating here, immigrating here from another country, and then basically taking over power, taking over. Look at Congress. Look at Ilhan Omar. You know, look at these people who are coming to the United States. And this sounds, you know, edgy, and I don't want to be racist. I mean, I know it's not racist. It's a fact. Yeah.
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Do you have any problem with Byron Donalds? No, of course not. The last time I checked was a black man just like Omar Fateh.
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It's attitudinal. It's political. It is, but I also don't have a single problem with somebody saying, okay, my family came here from another country. So that's not really the driving force. No, it's all behavioral and political, of course. And ideological. I mean, you know, no cash bail and let the criminals roam the streets and open borders and we're not going to cooperate with ICE. And how about, P.S., mix in a little redistribution of the wealth while you're at it. And, you know, very Marxist, you know, and against private property. That was the classic I played on Friday. Mamdani would like to abolish private property because everybody deserves to own something.
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It's the root of all liberty is private property ownership. And in fact, go back two minutes to what you were saying, all of it great. There's not even a problem. I mean, it's part of the definition of America, people coming from other lands, becoming American, and then establishing whatever life they want, including running for public office. There's no problem. Nothing. There's certainly no problem with somebody coming from another land, becoming American, getting citizenship, and running for public office. That's not the problem with Omar. That's not the problem with these folks. It is that they hate the country they have come to.
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They despise this country.
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And are looking to change it in terrible ways.
SPEAKER 12 :
Elon Omar said that last week. Elon Omar said America's a terrible place, essentially. All right, I've got to leave you with this. Headline from Axios. You know Axios is one of my go-tos. I know they're left of center. They're a bubble of their establishment. They have them in cities all over the country. I'm sure there's an Axios Dallas. There is. There's an Axios Tampa Bay. Headline, Alligator Alcatraz. Alligator Alcatraz leans on myth steeped in racism. Yeah, that's right. Do you remember when Pete Buttigieg said that bridges are racist? Yes, of course. Axios has decided to hold my beer. The idea... Are you ready? Yes. The idea... First of all, they claim that alligators don't really like to eat humans. However... According to Axios, I'm not making this up. You can Google this. You can look it up. I swear to you. Oh, no. I'm reading here an article by somebody named Catherine Varn.
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Yes.
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The idea of the alligator lusting for human flesh is rooted in racism. Dating back to Jim Crow, when tourists could buy postcards illustrating black children as gator bait. Yes. I kid you not. This article claims that there is actually a racist reason that Trump likes alligator Alcatraz. He's a racist because it goes back. It's a myth that goes back to the way to dehumanize, oppress and suppress.
SPEAKER 13 :
newly freed african americans i'm reading here all right so and they understand so we put we put a facility in the everglades yes because we we just love the idea the yes that old nostalgic imagery yes black kids being black children black children being the swamps to be eaten
SPEAKER 12 :
In fact, the article includes a postcard depicting black children as alligator baits.
SPEAKER 13 :
They're on to us, Mike.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know how much longer we can survive. The walls are closing in now. They've figured this out. Quick observation. I've got to just say this. I don't think there's a lot of black kids right now at Alligator Alcatraz. Just saying.
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The Eminem Experience. Subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
In this episode, Angie and her guest, Grace Fox, dive into the profound routine of finding hope amidst turmoil. Discover how Grace's experiences of working tirelessly and learning to trust in God's timeline offer valuable lessons on perseverance and resilience. Follow Angie as she explores Nashville’s vibrant music scene, balancing personal adventures with spiritual insights, and the power of setting boundaries to nurture mental health.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Kenza Haddock is back here on The Good News with Angie Austin, and I'm so excited to have you, Kenza, because your story is like really no other story that I've covered in my 30-plus years in the TV and radio news business. So welcome back, my friends.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you so much. I'm excited.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love it too that, you know, I used to have a therapist on the show all the time and we just had so many things to talk about and we became, you know, great phone, radio friends. I said phone friends, radio friends and just really, I enjoy covering so many issues because I really think I would have been a therapist if I hadn't gotten into news. Like news, you know, it's like every day you have to become an expert on something. Like if I interview you, I might look into the Muslim religion and then becoming a Christian and what are the ramifications of that. If I'm interviewing someone that's a doctor, then I look into like the fetal surgery he does. So every day you get educated on a new thing and you have to become an expert to do the story. But in your case, every day you're like helping to heal people. And you've written about healing. And you've also written about your journey, The Ex-Muslim's Guide to Christianity, which I found to be fascinating.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you so much. Yes. God, I found that God uses our stories in so many ways, you know. And even when he called me into the field of counseling, honestly, I didn't know why, because I was raised in so much dysfunction. I was like, God, really me? How about someone more qualified than me? But that's not how he works. And it reminds me, Angie, of there's a verse in, I believe it's 1 Corinthians, where Paul says, think of what you... how you were when you were called. Not many of you were of noble birth. And it goes on to say, but God used the foolishness of this world to shame the wise. And so it's a really humbling passage, and it's also a reminder that it doesn't matter where we are right now. God sees the end result, and that's what we need to look to. I love that.
SPEAKER 03 :
So after you left the Muslim faith, and I'm still just – dumbfounded that you knew nothing about Christianity and that it just came to you when you were so depressed and so down, you know, the vision of becoming a Christian and then helping others. So what are some of the things that people come to you about that they might want help with? And I wonder too, if anyone that wants to become a Christian or leave their faith comes to talk to you because you are, you know, a bit of an expert in the area now.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, what's interesting is it's usually these behaviors that we don't catch because a lot of times they're socially acceptable behaviors that little by little affect our mental health, and we don't see that because they're socially acceptable. And really, one of them that has been huge, and it makes sense because anxiety, clinical anxiety is the number one diagnosis.
SPEAKER 03 :
In the United States. Clinical anxiety is the number one diagnosis in the U.S. That is fascinating to me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. And, you know, in the last couple of just years, I'm noticing that it's because our culture teaches that rest is a reward for our hard work. Whereas the Bible teaches that rest is our inheritance for being children of God. it's like we feel like, no, no, I need to get everything done or else no one else is going to do it. And because of that, sometimes we can pick up and carry things that God has not given us. And then also, We just we either implode on and within ourselves and we can go over the difference between imploding or we explode. Have you ever I mean, I won't even ask you, but I have had situations where I've taken my anger out on the wrong person. They had nothing to do with it. And just because I've been carrying so many pent up emotions and anger.
SPEAKER 03 :
the reality is god calls us to operate from rest because we're not trying to earn by performing anymore yes yes and you know it's funny when you said that a lot of people believe that rest is like a byproduct of hard work if you get it i i am a lot less stressed than i was when i was younger because i don't have as many responsibilities as i used to have and i am able to um you know, spend a lot more time with my family. I used to work seven days a week. I went to school full-time, graduated with honors, always trying to over-excel, you know, to prove myself. And now I, you know, I'm like a totally different person. Now, when you have people come into your practice and they want help with various issues, anxiety, people may not realize, leads to And depression, I didn't realize for some people, can lead to anger and come out as anger and outbursts. I wasn't really aware of that. I just thought, oh, anger issues. But a lot of times when we're dealing with something, it comes out as anger.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, absolutely. Especially in the A type personality. Yes. If the person is more expressive. Now, sometimes it can come out in an anger outburst if the person has had so many pent up emotions and did not just never verbalize them and they just. they will take it out on sometimes even the people they feel safest with. Now, that doesn't mean the recipient should just take it, because I've had, especially in marriages or in relationships, parent-child relations, where the parent would say, hey, you know, my child is great with everyone else. Why do they take their anger out on me? And that's because we normally do that with the person we feel safest with. Now, the recipient also needs to set boundaries when it comes to that and maybe help them process through it. Hey, what's going on? I've noticed that over the last couple of weeks you've been, you seemed a little more stressed out. Can we talk about that? Something like to encourage conversation. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think, and you tell me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that men are less likely to talk about these emotions. They don't have as many. We have our girlfriends. We have our mom. We have our sisters, family members, cousins that we may talk to. But oftentimes men, you know, my husband talks to his dad a lot, you know, but he's in his mid-80s. Like, who else is he going to talk to? I mean, me, obviously. But he doesn't have any friends that he talks to at all about anything that he might be dealing with.
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely. Oh, yes. And our culture doesn't help that either. We teach men to not verbalize. We teach that, oh, if you don't verbalize your emotions, that's a sign of strength. Whereas that's not true, because Jesus, the strongest person who ever lived, walked the face of the earth actually displayed healthy emotions because he wasn't scared of them. See, God is not scared of emotions, and we shouldn't. And one thing that I always like to say, because I had to learn it the hard way, is if we don't process and express our emotions in a healthy way, we will be led by them. That's the way we get led by them. It's because we don't allow... to just talk about what's going on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait, say that again.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's so important. Yes, absolutely. When we don't take the time to process through and talk about our emotions in a healthy way, we become led by our emotions. Oh my goodness, that's good. Because whatever we repress,
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, if you're repressing it and it's just finding a crack to just ooze out or fly out or break out of when you repress all these emotions, then someone like drops a dish or gets a B on a test or forgets to mow the lawn and all of a sudden you're enraged over something that should elicit a smaller emotion. My mom is the queen of where it was. She's getting so much better now. And I'm saying now you can teach an old dog new tricks. But like the kids would leave a backpack in the living room and she would just become enraged. And I'm like, first of all, it's my house. It's my kid. Why are you screaming at the top of your lungs? And you're on an emotional roller coaster ride every day. You get so easily enraged. And I've really gotten her giving her a separate apartment, you know, in her home to not choose to sit right in the middle of the living room and like on her throne, dictate every move my kids made and just use them as an excuse to get all of her rage out. And I could never understand how you could get so angry about a sock or a backpack in the wrong place.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Yes. I've had patients who had the same theme, like who lived separately. And usually it goes back to the way they were raised as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, interesting.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, it goes back to the way they were raised. And so they made agreements in their minds, like I will not – go to bed unless the dishes are washed. Now, that's great. But once it becomes a rule that is emotionally disruptive, that's not good. And so that's when someone will ask, well, are you saying I should just live in complete chaos? And no, absolutely not. But it's good to set certain boundaries and certain guardrails and also understand that you're human. You're not going to get it Right, all the time. Sometimes you're going to go to bed and the dishes are going to be in the sink, and that's okay. It should not cause you to lose sleep.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, yes, yes. I love that. And coping. OK, so someone comes to you and we're going to be doing these segments more often. I'm so excited that you're going to be joining me. I just love the idea of helping people. And I love Christian counseling. And when you have someone come to you who's dealing with anxiety, the number one diagnosis, depression, anger issues, my When my daughter was younger, she said, Mom, could I have counseling to deal with my anger issue? She didn't know how to process it when she was mad. And I was like, how mature for her to ask for that. And we started getting these bills in the mail. My husband's like, what's this about? They literally have. outside counselors that you can visit at the school that, you know, your insurance can cover, that they don't even have to leave school to go see them. And I said, Hope, ask me. She said she wanted to be able to better deal with her anger. So how do you tell people to start? Like what's the starting point when you have a new patient come in? Where do you like to start them to start feeling better and healing them emotionally?
SPEAKER 06 :
I like to ask questions about their current life because not everything is is... issues that have been embedded or agreements that we have made or inner vows that we have made growing up. Sometimes it's just you're going through situational stress and reminding yourself that, hey, this is just for a season and reminding ourselves that God is with us in this season, but also taking inventory of what are we watching on TV? Who are we talking to? Are we surrounding ourselves with people who are bringing us down? And you wouldn't believe it. You probably do believe it. The people who are closest to us affect our lives more than we lead on because we have our guard down with those people. And so we have to be willing to set healthy boundaries. If someone around us, and it's okay to say, hey, but I'm ministering to this person, and that's fine. But if they are dragging you down and causing you to miss your number one and number two priorities, you know, your time with the Lord and your time at home, then maybe reevaluate that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I also found something that is beneficial to me, if I can be so bold as to say what I think has been somewhat helpful, is journaling. And I don't know why I'm so resistant to doing it because every time I do it, my day is better.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what's interesting? The reason you feel better is because journaling activates the brain region. It's called bilateral stimulation, so it activates both sides of your brain, the logical part and the creative part.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's a reason.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. So it's like you're opening the door for emotional processing. It's the same by journaling. You're getting the same effect as walking because walking, you're activating both sides of your brain. And so unfortunately, in our world, we type more so than write and walk. And so we're not getting this similar effect. And there's one thing that, you know, speaking of leaving my biological family and when I left, I was by myself and the Lord, obviously he was with me and he took, I mean, he is so incredible and he reparents our hearts. He really does. The Holy Spirit does. lets us know. He convicts us when we need conviction. He encourages us when we need encouragement. And one thing, so my husband and I are both very strong personalities. And when we got married, our first year was like the worst year on our marriage. I mean, we were at each other's throats. I'm talking like toilet paper up or down, open cabinets, closed cabinets, stuff like that. And what we have learned and what I have learned is that A lot of times I think I'm right, and a lot of times I'm sure he thinks he's right. But one thing we've learned is we, whenever we have an issue, we go to God with it first. Not together, because obviously that's going to be like a... Oh, let's do this, Kenza.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're out of time, but let's do this. Let's save that topic, and that'll be our next topic, okay? Because it goes all back to Dr. Phil's, do you want to be right, or do you want to be wrong? Kenza, give us your website.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it's www.kensahaddock.com.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, friend.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Grace Fox here on The Good News. And today we are talking about finding hope in crisis, devotions for calm in the chaos. We're talking about hope in action and also vacations and how important those are. I'll bet there were years, Grace, when you didn't used to take a lot of vacations.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is exactly true, because we worked at a year-round Christian camp for 11 years, and during that time, summer is our busiest season. And so other families would come to our facility to do vacation, but we couldn't. We couldn't go away. So you're right. I hadn't read out about that. But during the wintertime, same thing. We had groups that would come and rent the facility for a weekend. My husband was the program director, so... He just couldn't get away, and it was lots of times work seven days a week, 16 hours a day. I wouldn't recommend that, but we were short-staffed at that time, and there wasn't a whole lot we could do but keep going. But God gave us the strength. We're glad we don't have to work at that pace anymore. It's not the way the human body is made. We do need to take breaks.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, seven days a week, 16 hours a day for 11 years. I would think that would take a toll on you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so it wasn't consistent like that for the full 11 years, but it was like that for the first few years that we were there, and it was tough. It was tough on the family, too, because my husband just wasn't able to be fully present like he had been before we went into that ministry. But we had to do what we could do, and we had to learn to work with it and work around it. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
You do some pretty fun family vacations with the kids and grandkids. What did you do this time? Wasn't it a houseboat?
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Yeah, we just got back last night, and we rented a houseboat in the interior of British Columbia. There's beautiful big lakes, and there are companies that will rent houseboats. And so we went out with our two daughters and their families and a nephew and his wife, and we had – six or seven nights out on a lake. So we can take the houseboat out and then you don't throw an anchor down at night. You just can't do that. The lake is way too deep for that. and the winds can come up, and if it's like a channel or an arm, the wind will just start blowing and pick up speed, and you could have havoc on your boat. So you have to tuck in to a safe little cove at night, and you can beach it. So, you know, walking pace, you just take this big boat at walking pace right into the beach, and then you put a ramp down onto it, so you can come and go. So we had campfires at night and roasted s'mores and You know, the little ones played in the sand with their buckets. The weather was perfect for that week. And then my son and his wife and their crew joined us on Saturday for my husband's birthday. And this boat had a slide off the back, so the kids were going down this slide and having a great time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, when you get the houseboat with the slide, we had a houseboat like that, too. And it is so much fun for the kids. And we did ours in Kentucky. So I think an interior lake in British Columbia would be really beautiful. And the fact that it was warm enough, you know, because I guess we're going to June now. And so it was warm enough for the kids to get in the water and have a blast.
SPEAKER 05 :
They had so much fun. My son and I brought a paddle boat, an inflatable paddle boat. And so the kids... And we had our dinghy that we had taken along in the back of a truck and then put it behind the houseboat. So the kids, my husband or my son, drove the dinghy and then... Kids could get pulled behind it on this paddle boat. So not water skiing, but they were still hanging on to a tow rope like that. You could have two kids on at a time, one standing, one sitting, or one at a time. It just, they had a blast.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's pretty creative. I never would have thought of that, a tow rope with a paddle board behind a dinghy. I love that. That sounds like a blast. All right, well, I always like to catch up on your adventures. I'm headed out to Nashville. My daughter is going to school there outside of Nashville next year, so she's going to help out with a... a volleyball camp for younger kids. She's going to stay in the dorms with some of her teammates, some of whom she'll just be meeting for the first time, including her new roommate. And then I am going to go back to Nashville, and I think I'm going to go to the Grand Ole. I don't like normally – I shouldn't say that. Normally I wouldn't choose to travel alone, and I'll be without her once I get back to Nashville. But I went on to Hotwire because in downtown Nashville, the hotels are pretty expensive, and I found one that would normally be like, I don't know, maybe $300 a night, and that's not an expensive one there. And I got it for $122 on Hotwire. And then I couldn't find one the next night, but then I logged in this morning, and they had another good deal for the following night. So I booked another one for $124. So I was like, ooh, I'm really getting the good deals in Nashville. And then I thought – I'm going to do a food and history tour with a friend of a friend, a musician that used to be a teacher. And I saw him perform at Robert's Western World, which is a cool place in Nashville where they only play old school music like Johnny Cash and like the old performers. And so nothing can be like before 1970 or something of that sort. So I love to go there and hear the stuff my dad used to listen to. But I can't take my daughter in there. So I'm going to have to go on the nights when I don't have her. And then I thought I'd get a ticket to the Grand Ole Opry because I haven't been there since I took my dad for his bucket list trip about 10 years ago. and uh the night i looked up nashville for teenagers you know so the kids want to hear music after like six o'clock at night you have to show an id for most of like honky-tonk kind of places but i was astounded there's like 15 different places where you can go for a meal or whatever and she can listen to music and get this one of them's a taco bell with a performance stage
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, I wouldn't have expected that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Me either. I just found it last night. I know about the food court. It's like kind of a highfalutin food court. I saw at least last time two performance stages while I was there. And then I love this Justin Timberlake restaurant. It's called the 1230 Night Club. And they had really cool, like, blues music. And you can sit and listen to the music. It's just so cool in Nashville because all these musicians are trying to make their big break. And so every place has live music, even the Taco Bell. And they're talented too because they've moved there specifically to try to make their big break. So they were like the big, you know, Shazam in their own hometown. And then they're moving to the big city to, you know, show off their talent.
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And I wish them well.
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Me too, me too. All right, let's talk about hope in action, page 96 of Finding Hope in Crisis.
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Yeah, so this is, I wrote this with a couple of my friends in mind. They had been in a really hard place for a while. They tried to sell their house. They wanted a downside. He was caring for his parents that lived seven hours away, and she was writing a Bible study, and they have a marriage ministry together, so she was trying to direct that as well. At the same time, he was so involved with caring for his mom and dad in their senior years. And so they were just seeing their savings go out the window and the stress was going up and up. And they just cried out and said, help, help. And so this one verse or two verses rather that he spoke to them through these verses. And it was this. It was Psalm 71, 20 and 21. It says, you who have made me see many troubles and calamities will revive me again. From the depths of the earth, you will bring me up again. You will increase my greatness and comfort me again. And they hung on to those verses and just said, okay, okay, we feel like we are in the depths of the earth right now, but We are going to trust that he will revive us, bring us up, increase our greatness, and comfort us. And my friend Pam took a little pair of, you know, a little pen, and she Googled, not Googled, what do you say? You know, she just drew, sketched a pair of glasses in her Bible. And she wrote the verses across this picture of the glasses. And because, you know, you who have made me see all these things will do all these good things for me. And so for months, she would recite those verses every time she put on her glasses. And God did fulfill those promises for this couple. And, you know, sometimes he will do these things. He will revive us and bring us up in the depths of the earth. he'll restore us do all these things quickly but sometimes it doesn't happen quickly and that's when we have to persevere we have to keep going keep trusting and not give up and it's so easy when it seems like there's no end to the troubles we face or to the pain we're in but to you know to remember that God's timeline is a whole lot different than ours And to keep trusting in his timeline, not demanding that he work according to ours.
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You know, it's interesting because so many times, at least with me, I always have some kind of a workaround, like some kind of a fix, some way to take a problem and solve it. And I usually have, you know, like three or four different ways to do it. In this past year, for like six months, I was trying to solve a problem that was kind of life-altering, you know, if I couldn't get the problem saved. Yeah, it was like, you know, not in a horrible way. There were other options. And that, you know, would be acceptable. But this was obviously the best option that I really wanted. And I was getting so frustrated because everything that I normally I can find a solution. And I was doing everything. And I was almost starting to get angry with the people that I felt were putting roadblocks in my way, you know, even though they were doing what they thought was best and following protocol. I always kind of think there's like can be exceptions or figure out a way. And I think that that really tested my ability, you know, to trust God, to, you know, to be patient and to not freak out as we're waiting for the solution. And in some cases, there might not be a solution that we're happy with.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. And honestly, Angie, we never see the full picture. We just don't because we're humans. That scope of wisdom that God has. And so we think we know what the best answer is. We think we know how to resolve this thing, right? And then we get frustrated because things don't pan out the way we think they should. And sometimes I think God just shakes his head and sees the whole picture and he knows He knows how it's going to turn out in the end. And so when we're anxious, we can get ourselves into trouble trying to solve it too soon. But if we can learn patience and learn to persevere, even when it feels like it's taken far too long, then we are always going to come out better off in the end when we let God do it in his time.
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You know, you talk about, you know, your friend Pam drawing the glasses and then writing the verses, you know, for her to read every time she put her glasses on. And I think about routine and how important it is and that routine can sometimes help us stay calm. And that routine might involve reading. that prayerful thought as she was doing and meditating on verses. And sometimes we forget to do that. And I love that she did something so simple to remind her. You know, sometimes I set alarms or I have a to-do list or I send myself an email, I send myself a text, like whatever is fast for me to do to figure out a solution to me remembering to do what I need to do. Because some of us have like a scattered train of thought. or a lot of people have ADHD, and I always find all of these workarounds for people with ADHD, and I find they're helpful for me as well because I don't necessarily think that that's my issue, but it's my daughter's issue, so I'm always looking for tools for her, and they're certainly effective for me. And as I'm aging, they're effective for me as I start to forget things. Like my producer sometimes will send me a message like, hey, I'm waiting for this show. It's like half an hour before the show is going to air, and I'm supposed to send some audio files, and I'm like, Oh, my gosh. I went out – because I'll have like 12 alarms set a day for things for my kids, you know, pick up a kid at lifeguarding, take a kid to an appointment, get the kid at basketball, take the other kid to a volleyball lesson. It's just insane how many things I'll have alarms for, and I'll forget my own show. And so it just cracks me up that he'll remind me, and I'm like, oh, well, I already recorded it this morning, but I was in a hurry to get out the door, and I figured I'd come back and send it to you later, so – Yeah, I need those workarounds now as I'm getting older as well. Well, Grace, I always appreciate you. I'm so glad you had a great houseboat vacation. GraceFox.com. We will talk to you next week. Thank you, friend.
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Thank you. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
