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Dana unleashes a Monday fury as she dives into the growing frustration over the two-tiered justice system, where Hunter Biden’s crack-fueled antics get a free pass while Americans are lectured from ivory towers. The latest declassified documents confirm what we already knew about 2016 election interference, but the question remains: will anything actually happen? Dana demands accountability—not more binders and headlines. Plus, she skewers the absurdity of taxpayer-funded slush funds used to settle congressional sexual misconduct, blasts Beto O’Rourke’s call for Democrat “ruthlessness,” and hilariously dismantles Hunter Biden’s cringeworthy interviews and condescending views on immigration. Bonus: a bizarre new “Gen Z stare” trend, rogue firetrucks, and the federal government spending more on renovating Fed buildings than it cost to build Cowboy Stadium. All that and more on this fire-breathing Three Martini Lunch of a show.
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The Supreme Court sides with parents and common sense about whether they can protect their kids from indoctrination at school. A House Democrat wants to radically overhaul Congress and the courts, quite a temper tantrum for losing last year. And the numbers don't lie about how much better Florida is than New York over the past 25 years. I'm Greg Karumbas, inviting you to join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the good, bad, and crazy news of the day, and hopefully a lot of laughs too. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I will do all that I can, and we have whistleblowers, actually, Maria, coming forward now after we release these documents because there are people who were around, who were working within the intelligence community at this time who were so disgusted by what happened. We're starting to see some of them come out of the woodwork here because they, too, like you and I and the American people, want to see justice delivered. So we're going to provide everything that we have, everything that we will continue to gather to the Department of Justice for that direct intent and that direct purpose. There must be indictments. Those responsible, no matter how powerful they are and were at that time, no matter who was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against the American people, they all must be held accountable.
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I feel like, I know a lot of people are cheering the release of this information, and I'm not saying that we shouldn't release information like this, but what I am saying is that I really feel like we knew all of this already, and this is kind of like the least that could be done in terms of you know, some accountability and transparency in all of this. It feels just like that this was the least that could be done. And I don't know why people are, you know, like, I mean, I don't think that she did anything extraordinary. I just think that this is all stuff that we knew. And why has it taken this long to get... Any of this information, you know, that's the thing. We all knew this. None of this is new information. We all knew what was happening in 2016. We all knew. I mean, good grief. We knew from the get go that this went all the way up. I mean, I feel almost like it's the most boring damn radio on God's green earth to relitigate it all because we know it. This is all crap that we know. Tell us some stuff that we don't know. Like, I don't know. Let's maybe actually unseal the files so we can actually get some justice in this unaccountable system as it pertains to, oh, I don't know, the Epstein files. I just feel like it's, I don't know, it might be too harsh, Cain, because this is what I feel like this is.
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I think it might be. A little tiny, but it's Monday, though, so I'm giving you a little bit of...
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I mean, this is stuff that we know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, knowing it, but then having and creating a legal framework that explains it. Oh, there's not going to be any accountability.
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Nothing is ever going to happen from this.
SPEAKER 09 :
There weren't anything that Dems were doing to do that, number one. They never would have done it. And everything we knew, quote unquote, about this was forever labeled as conspiracy theories and still to this very day. So we can know something, but having somebody at this level talk about it and then a legal framework
SPEAKER 10 :
behind it yeah it's a little different to me I don't know I'm just maybe I'm more caustic than you are because I'm just like I don't know no I don't know I'm just like I said I just it's stuff that I feel like it's stuff that we know we knew already now can I have some stuff that we don't know Now, can we know who's all on the clientele list? Can we know if we have any government agents that are actually... Because we know... Here's why I bring this up. And I'll do the greetings and salutations and all of that here in a moment. But this is why I bring all of this up. Because the... The... Situation with, you know, the Epstein files and everything else. This is all stuff that we were promised that we are supposed to know. And I am curious as to whether or not any members of Congress are implicated. I'm curious as to whether or not any other elected officials are implicated. Maybe officials that, you know, governors or senators. you know anybody democrat presidential candidates and their husbands i mean you know whose names might rhyme with schmill blinton things like that you know i i would like some clarification on it because do you guys remember the big story that took place where we uh had this, I'm actually pulling it up right now, where we had members of Congress who had to have, you guys remember the little secretive, what do I want to call it? I can't think of the name of it. The secretive, it was like a slush fund to settle all of their sexual harassment cases. Okay, so we know that that's a real thing. That exists. Why wouldn't they also be, some of them wouldn't be compromised on this Epstein thing too, right? No, I'm not going to get over it. Literally, I'm not going to get over it. Not going to happen. Just saying. Just saying. I want some accountability because we know that taxpayers have been paying off and settling cases of sexual assault or sexual harassment for members of Congress. I mean, that's a huge story that came out a few years ago. So, yeah, that's why I'm like, can we please have... Some kind of accountability here and other things that we don't know, because we know all the we know this stuff with the collusion. And we also know nothing's going to come of it, because if something were to come of it, something I mean, there's there's not going to be the willpower in D.C. because Republicans are spineless. There's not going to be the willpower in D.C. to do anything like this, to do anything about it. So they're just going to throw it out in front of you, and they're going to say, look, this happened. We all know it happened. What are you going to do about it? I'm so tired of hearing you guys talk about the same damn stuff every damn day, every damn week. The same losers walk out there. Hey, guess what, guys? We got another binder. Hey, guess what, guys? We got some more information that you guys all know. Everybody knows all this stuff, right? Yeah, what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it? So, hi. Welcome to the show. Dana Lashley with you. It's Monday. I'm bored of this whole thing like, oh, guess what, you guys? Look what we have. We know this. What are you going to do about it? What are you doing about it? Because so far, I haven't seen anything. Now, do you see my frustration, Cain? I do. Do you get it now? I'm not being mean, I swear.
SPEAKER 09 :
I get it.
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I mean, maybe a little bit, but I'm really not. I just would like some more. The slush fund, let me pull this story up. I mean, the fund that Congress had, to settle these sexual harassment cases. Guys, it was almost $20 million. And then that was on top of the $17 million in sexual misconduct that Congress, we have already paid for Congress. This is fact. We've literally already paid $17 million in sexual misconduct cases. And this came out, it's from the Office of Compliance. It was set up in 1995 under the Congressional Accountability Act. and starting in 2002 the tallies began topping several million dollars i'm going to repeat that last sentence in 2002 the tallies started topping several million dollars one more time for the kids in the back in 2002 people elected to congressional office couldn't stop touching butts that weren't theirs apparently and had to settle for like several millions of dollars so you see what i mean here So over the past couple of decades, they've literally covered almost 270 settlements, and they paid out that much money. So this is why you can see my interest in that infamous Epstein list and or files, whichever it is, unseal the grand jury documents, which they've started doing. Pam Bondi filed it. It was put forward towards DOJ. OK, that's great. It's all dog and pony show until it happens. I'm done. We paid that much money. And those are Republican and Democrat lawmakers, probably more Democrats than Republicans. But there are some Mars on the list. These are all facts. So, again, back to my original point. What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do? Do you imagine I want you guys to think for a second. Can you imagine if you would have had like at your work? Do you have a. a fund that pays off your sexual harassment claims that all the employees pitch into? Why are you breathing so deeply over there? Oh my gosh, Kane.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because when you don't have to spend your own money on things, you don't care as much. You just don't. So, oh, the people are going to pay for my sexual harassment stuff? I guess I just stopped doing it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, heaven forbid they stop being whores. You know, heaven forbid. So this is why I really want the name on the list. This is why, I mean, I'm not downplaying the collusion stuff at all. However, this is just, we know these things. These are things that we know. And we've been told this stuff over and over again. I am going to not be satisfied until something's done about it. Until something is done about it. And I don't know. The email disclosures. I thought that the... press release was kind of, I thought what was revealed was anticlimactic as in proportion to what the statement, the press release was promising. Because this wasn't any new information. And I don't know if it was just thrown out as a way to distract people from all the other stuff we're not getting. I don't know. But we need accountability on things. I mean, you can show us this stuff all day long, but so far this adds to the laundry list of things, corruption that we know that nothing was done about. And all it does is feed this two-tier system of justice that most of us realize exists. All it does is feed this because you're just showing us more things that people are never going to be held accountable for. Barack Obama is living the good life with a mansion. It's Tom Selleck's old mansion out in Hawaii. And he's got his place up in Martha's Vineyard right on the coast, despite the fact that they were telling you all to not live on the coast because of global warming, whatever. Just saying. By the way, speaking of unaccountability, I'm going to play it at the bottom of the hour after our headlines because we're probably not going to get past the soundbite. Hunter Biden has one of the worst vocal tones of human I've ever seen in my life or heard in my life. I don't I don't know if it's his nasal cavity or what it is. But when he speaks, his voice gets sucked up to the nether regions of his head and then it spits out and it sounds like a really annoying Ned Flanders on helium. I don't know how else to put it. He had the audacity to sit down and give an interview where he was moaning and complaining about everything from the way that he says his family was treated in the White House. And he has all of this contempt for all the people who didn't walk the line with his dad. And he has no recognition of his own failings. It is truly a remarkable bit of audio. And God help me. It's Monday. It's not even we're not even halfway through this first hour and I'm already going to throw something. I'm not kidding. Like it's infuriating. You want again, it further fuels this two tier system of justice. So we're going to dive into this here coming up. We're also going to hit a few other things. We've got the fight over the Redskins name. OK, fine. Change it back. I don't care. Are we going to like abolish the IRS? All of this other stuff is warts on the ass of America's problems. Are we going to actually do any real, like, come on, I want sugar and Coke. This is all great. Can I get some real stuff? And by the way, apparently Commanders was named after Custer, Custer being a commander. Did you know that that's where the name apparently came from? What do you think is worse? What do you think is worse? Okay, just saying. We're going to touch on this. We're also going to highlight some fun, super fun Democrat stuff because we've got had a few things happen over this over this week and including now the California, the rail, the high speed rail authority. They're suing Trump because they over like 15 years couldn't make their railroad work. They couldn't build it to make it work. So they're filing suit. We're going to get into that. WNBA. We've got. Oh, oh, oh, I can't tell you how it's on the rundown. But Beto O'Rourke is back. He's back, guys. He's back and Hunter Biden gave an interview today. Kill us. Kill us now. Yeah, we're going to dive all into this as we move. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right. So first up, by the way, Lorraine was saying that the commanders doesn't have anything to do with General Custer. I'm pretending that it's true. Why not? Because they can do whatever I'm doing. I'm identifying that as true. We're doing that. In-N-Out billionaire Lindsey Snyder. L-Y-N-S-I. Sure. Sure. Says that doing business is not easy here. Duh. Next. Would you go into debt for your pet? Some people are. Okay, these are dinks. They're dual income, no kids. This is why you get dog insurance, by the way. If you're going to get a pretty high maintenance breed, you need dog insurance. It's a real thing. But they say that 68 percent of people who own pets and I love dogs. I do not say I'm a pet parent. They've said that they've made financial sacrifices to cover essentials from taking us. And I think that, you know, that's fine if you're going to, you know, save money for them or whatever. But I think that, you know, you got to be smart about it. You got to be smart about things. Let's just be smart. And they have. These people, I swear I feel like I'm reading something that was written by the, what's his face? Christopher Guest, who did Best in Show. It's a USA Today. They have a whole pet section for the dinks, right? They said dinks, the dual income, no kids, the dinks. They spend on average of almost $2,000 a year on their pets. Now, yes, if you're raising a child, not including college education or anything else, $23,000 a year to raise a child just, you know, without any of the bells and whistles. So you have groomers, medication, but I do think that, I don't know, I... I have a whole theory about the whole pet thing. We'll talk more about it later because I'm going to get lost and we have other headlines. So we also have Andrew Cuomo who says he's going to move to Florida if Zoran Mamdani becomes the New York City mayor. Well, you might want to because it's probably going to he's totally going to weaponize government against you. I mean, that's what national socialists or what we would call Nazis for short do. That's your problem for killing old people in New York. It's apparently your loneliness is killing you. Is the story. Is it, though? Is the loneliness the thing that's giving you the heart attack when you're young and healthy? Is it? Literally. They say it's a grim new report from the World Health Organization that told everyone to go out and get experimental injections. So basically, almost a million people a year, they say, 100 every hour are killed from loneliness and that we are all technically more connected at any point than human history, but also more disconnected. at any point through human history. It's really true. Social isolation. Maybe it's because you made everyone stay home for two years and you shut down work and invite all of you people die in an AIDS fire. I'm not kidding. Die in the most hellacious AIDS fire for what you did to two generations of people. And there's no accountability for it. Further fueling my rage at the two tier system of justice that we're going to discuss further with this glorious Hunter Biden audio that's coming up after this headline segment. You're going to want to sit down, grab yourself something that you're not going to throw and scald yourself or your neighbors with. And we're going to have a little listen here. We've got a lot to kick off with still. Stick with us. Now, I'm always going to tell you to carry. And I have no problem using lethal force to protect my life or someone else's life. But I also think that there are instances where you're disarmed due to municipal restrictions or private property restrictions. So it's always good to have diversified options in your weapons array. So the Burna compact launcher is a suggestion for one of those diverse options in your weapons array. 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I think you need to cuss more you crackhead. Because maybe if you cuss more, your brain will at some point be able to find the words that it needs to make some sort of sentient point. Welcome back to the program. That's a former first crackhead, Hunter Biden, who I don't know who he was talking to. Who was that with? I don't even I don't care. But. Yeah. I just I think it's it's so lame. He's why is it that when Democrats talk about immigration, they never talk about people that come in the country legally and then they start. you know, creating businesses and, you know, they actually have some lofty goals for themselves. Democrats are always mad because it's always their slave labor that everyone, they think everyone's targeting. Oh my gosh, like who's going to wash our toilets? Like, oh my gosh, who's going to do our yards? Like, oh my gosh, who's going to cook our meals? Like, oh my gosh, who's going to raise my kids? Oh my gosh. That's all I hear from these people.
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Some things never change.
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No, they never change. They have that slave owner mentality and it still exists today. I mean, it's like, I mean, am I watching? No, you guys are just, you guys punked me, didn't you? You guys played a deleted scene from Django Unchained, didn't you?
SPEAKER 09 :
No.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, you did. That's a scene from Django Unchained. That's not.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, I can see where the confusion is.
SPEAKER 10 :
It sounds just like it.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's really not. It's very, very recent.
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I don't know. I feel like I'm being punked here and they're just playing me deleted scenes. I mean, that's I mean, that's what it sounds like. He's mad because he's he's he thinks that the only jobs that he ever mentions are the like those like menial labor. Are those the only immigrants that they know? I mean, I really got to ask this question. Do Democrats not know any actual like immigrants? Do they know any actual Mexicans? I ask this because these are the jobs that they always mention. I mean, who's going to do this stuff? I don't know why. Can we get over this awkward cussing thing that they're doing on the left? It's so cringe. I'm dying a slow death. I don't know what's worse, hearing that or like, I don't know. Smod. Smod's better. But this, that's what it is. They're upset because it's their slave labor. They want to bring in people that will do this work so they don't have to pay them decent wages. That's really what it is. That's all it is. And he feels he's really feeling himself because he's, you know, he's got that pardon. But I think also, too, does he think that that it almost sounds like he believes every single person who emigrates to the United States is Is an illegal immigrant and that or that that's the only thing that they can do, that these jobs are the only things that immigrants can do, which I find incredibly racist to think this. I mean, it's like you're you're listening to the manifestation in meat space of I hate saying this phrase white privilege complain about having to pay decent wages to people who are here legally. Has he ever modal on? Do you think he's ever modal on?
SPEAKER 09 :
He smoked some grass, probably.
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Yeah, smoking the grass is not the same thing as cutting the grass. I don't know. Maybe he's upset because his cocaine price increased because of the border closure. I don't know. Maybe something clearly has him all in a tizzy. Yeah, who do you think? He said he listed how does your hotel room get clean? How do you have food on your table? Who washes your dishes? Why couldn't it be? Why couldn't it be that? Yeah, me, I do those. But why couldn't it be something like, oh, what is the restaurant that made the food that you're eating? Like, why is it never anything loftier? Right. Where's the farm that you got your produce? Like he never asked. They never asked those questions. They never ask, well, who is the maker of the toilet in your home that you had? They never, you know, like just say, why couldn't people who come into the who immigrate to the country own any of these businesses? Democrats never put them in that role. It's always, well, how does this get cleaned or how does this menial task get completed or how does this menial task get completed? It's this it is the absolute racism of zero expectations. That's exactly what this is. That's just incredibly hurtful. I mean, if you come into the country legally and you're hearing this, I mean, I can't even imagine. That's just so ignorant to say this stuff. But this is Hunter Biden. By the way, Hunter Biden, he cares so much about illegal immigrants that he literally blamed him. Remember? OK, so this gets confusing. So do you remember when Hunter Biden's brother kicked the bucket? Although Joe Biden changes the story all the time, maybe he's alive. But when his older brother kicked the bucket, Hunter Biden cheated on his wife with his sister in law. Remember that? So he had both wives and then he got his sister-in-law apparently introduced her to crack. And then he also decided that he was going to blame. He literally decided to blame his missing handgun on, quote, shady and probably illegal Mexicans, not even making this up. Not making it up. Daily Mail, I hate the publication, but they have the actual story where they wrote about this. They get into how the police report, which was published for the first time this week. So it was published today. This was all back in 2018. the police report, that's when it was first filed, he was trying to blame his missing handgun on Mexican workers at a Delaware supermarket. So when his sister-in-law slash lover slash mistress, yeah, when he illegally bought his handgun, he was high as a kite. Remember, he lied on his 4473. Nothing ever came of it because, you know, the rules are different for Democrats. His sister-in-law slash lover slash mistress stole it And then threw it in this trash can that was it was just like tiny supermarket that was literally across the street from an elementary school. You can actually go on Google Maps and stand at the intersection and you can see the supermarket on one side and the school on the other. So literally tossed it in a public trash can. It's at Janssen supermarket in Wilmington. And it was across the street from a school. And then they found it. And so he actually was blaming. This was first published in 2021. He actually started then blaming this little it's like a little bougie supermarket. I was trying to think of what it's similar to. It's kind of like a Central Market Whole Foods kind of. It looks fancy. I've never been in one. But he told the officer Sergeant Vincent Clemens. This is what Hunter Biden in his interview with police. This is literally what he said. Quote, they have some shady people working at the market. And then he pointed to two Mexican store workers and said they were probably illegal. Probably illegal is literally how it's written in the police report. So Hunter Biden is so mad at you mean old Republicans for bringing it. Oh, you guys don't. I mean, who's going to clean your toilets and stuff? Well, who's going to be your scapegoat for, you know, your sister-in-law slash lover throwing your cracked out handgun in a trash can across from a school? Who's going to be the scapegoat for that if we're not allowing illegal aliens to come in? Oh, my gosh. He went in a police report. Why is this coming out just now? Why is this? It's just not coming out.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because of that pardon, baby.
SPEAKER 10 :
So he can say all this stuff. And remember, the police were worried because literally the supermarket... I said elementary school. I meant high school. Sorry, the elementary school is down the road. But it was directly across the street from the school. And police were very concerned because they did not want... Apparently, kids go... They'll go to that market and get snacks and stuff. They were very nervous that kids would have found that gun in the trash can. Yeah. So... And that's... Yeah. That's literally what he said. That's... So he was worried, Cain, about the probably illegal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, so in that statement, think about it. He says shady Mexicans. So right off the bat, there's nothing illegal about them. They don't have to be breaking the law, nothing. They're just shady. So he thinks of Mexicans as shady, step number one. Number two, then, he goes on to say probably illegal. So he thinks that... whether he knows they're illegal or not, he's just going to assume that they're illegal. So that's his baseline stance. That's his true baseline stance there.
SPEAKER 10 :
It said two of Jansen's employees, described by the police report as Mexican males, walked past the loading dock area and Hunter told a police officer that the store had suspicious people working for it. Asked if he was referring specifically to those two staff members, Hunter responded, yeah, probably probably illegal and gestured to them. That was in the police report.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's just the drugs talking.
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He's. Wow. Lorraine reminds me, too. Do you remember when Kelly Osbourne was on The View? And she said, well, who's going to be cleaning people's toilets? You know, Mexicans. And she literally said that she actually did get some pushback for it. Rightfully so, because it was a stupid thing to say. So where's the pushback for, you know, former first crackhead of the White House? Where's the pushback for that? I mean, Democrats own him. They own him. He's blaming his cracked out handgun purchase that was thrown in a trash can at a supermarket on illegal Mexican immigrants. This is who the Democrats are. But he's the big racist. Or no, Republicans are the big racist. And that's even after he does this interview where he says, well, who's going to be doing all these menial tasks? Who's going to be doing this stuff for you? Who's going to be cleaning your house? And who's going to be washing your toilets? And who's going to be doing this stuff? Who's going to be making your food? Who's going to be doing your yard? Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, I'll do that. Why does that do they is that just like a, you know, speaking of foreign, is that a foreign concept to them? They think that that they're just so weird. You know, I was thinking about this. Think about all of these like first sons. So like Jack Schlossberg, I think is his name. That guy, he's all Schlossberg. That guy is a nut. And he's on social media. He's the grandson of JFK Jr. Or no, sorry, grandson of JFK. JFK Jr. is his uncle. His mother is Caroline, who was the daughter of Jackie and JFK. And apparently he didn't get invited to the big Kennedy 4th of July gathering because they're blacklisting people that they don't like. And they don't like RFK Jr. and they don't like him. And but it's these first sons like the like him and then Hunter Biden. There's this issue on the left, like even JFK Jr. had his issues. Didn't they say he was basically like a spoiled nutball baby who was given basically a magazine to run to boost his political profile? And he was running that in the ground. And then he tried to fly a plane and he ended up flying it right into the damn water because he just was too smart to listen to anybody else who were saying that there was fog in the area, et cetera, et cetera. There's a serious problem with Democrat first sons. Look at look through history. When when is there a normal one? I don't think so. I don't think there is. If the Obamas had a son, he'd be just as messed up. What is with the first sons on the Democrat side? We have more on the way as we roll towards these United States. And as we do so, we all need relief factor because I have aches and pains. I have aches and pains right now, not brought on by a sports injury like my husband. My husband has sports injuries. And so he has to take relief factor so he doesn't complain the entire time that he's lifting weights in the gym. I need relief factor because I have to deal with the aches and pains of having, like I just told you, talk about beta-auroric. But here's the thing. Seriously, though, it's a drug-free supplement that's designed to help manage aches and pains naturally. And so it combines powerful ingredients like turmeric, omega-3 fatty acids, resveratrol, and more to target inflammation and support your joint health. It's 100% drug-free, developed to support your body's natural healing process. You don't have to stay stuck living with pain. There's no reason. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. It's less than a dollar a day, and you can support a veteran-owned company and see the difference for yourself. That's relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF.
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ICE, his own personal Gestapo. What will it take, America? What will it take? He's going to arrest every artist that disagrees with him and pretty much every artist does. Whether or not they're brave enough to say it is another thing.
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Is she actually calling Stephen Colbert an artist? That's a way to abort all artistry in the country by acting like Stephen Colbert, some sort of like artist. Seriously? That's white. Jeez. Rosie O'Donnell, at least put a filter on. Make it at least somewhat palatable for the rest of us. If you can't put a filter on, then just put a bag over your face. It does the same thing. Welcome. It's true. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. Yeah. Is she still in Ireland? Not coming back, I guess, which is totally fine if she's not. Please. yeah so she it's first off he was losing i mean the monetary amount that he was costing that network is coming out and it's astronomical it is like really stunning how much money he was costing that network it's pretty unbelievable uh but it's not again if you're underperforming and you're fired that's not censorship That's called a job. Do these people... Are they just so unfamiliar with the concept of working that they don't understand the give-and-take relationship that is an employment agreement? Every day. These people. Every single day. Between her and Hunter Biden, and then we got Beto O'Rourke coming up. Jeez. Just a stellar Monday. Can we just have, like, I don't know, some SMOD come in? That would be great. Have SMOD come in now. So, she's... Which what did she call ISIS own personal Gestapo? Words have meanings like maybe use them correctly because they invoke different things. They describe different things. Federal agents that are doing the jobs that that are enforcing the law written by the people you elect. I mean, if they're the Gestapo, then what do you call the people who elect the lawmakers? Right. who then write the laws that these people enforce. And again, keep in mind that most Democrats, actually, the Democrat leadership is what's off base from the rest of Democrats. Most Democrats, they don't mind enforcement of actual immigration law. They don't really like, you know, unfettered, lawless immigration. They don't really like it. So, you know... Good heavens. I mean, words have meaning. Although she wants to describe herself as Gestapo. I mean, I don't know. She is on the left. And they have these traits that they share. So coming up, this is what else we have to get to. We have some of the latest. There's so many. I'm not going to play all the sound bites from Hunter Biden because we can't censor all that much. And it's just an endless stream of beeps. But California, their unemployment is now the highest in the country. Oh. I wonder how Gavin Newsom is going to spend that. The Redskins versus Commander's name. We've got this. We also have Beto O'Rourke is trying. Well, he's being recruited by Democrats to encourage Democrats to become ruthless. We'll discuss this. We've got a lot of stuff to hit still. Second hour on the way. The folks over at Angel Studios. If you're wondering why it's so hard to find like decent entertainment that reflect our values these days and upholds you know the american it celebrates american exceptionalism you're not alone uh it's been just garbage offering after garbage offering from hollywood angel studios is working to change that by breathing new life into storytelling and by focusing on powerful We'll be right back. By becoming a premium member of the Angel Studios Guild. And so when you do that, there's a lot of things that go along with it. You actually are participating in helping to bring certain movies to production, to greenlight certain things. You're directing them as to what you think. I mean, you're serving as like the measurement of American taste. And they are reacting to that and creating stuff that fits that. you also get free tickets to every theatrical release. And they have, like I said, these are unapologetically American titles and stories. And it's not that they go out and they specifically focus on where we're going to make a conservative movie or a Christian movie. It just happens to be that way. It's just good storytelling through the perspective of people who have that authenticity. Visit angel.com slash Dana and join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment. When you join the angel guild, You'll help fund the future of storytelling that reflects your values. And premium members get free theater tickets, ad-free streaming, and more. Become a premium member today at angel.com slash Dana.
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You say it sounds confusing, but others might say it's hypocritical that you're saying this is a horrible thing and it's members of Congress choosing their voters instead of the other way around. And now Democrats need to embrace it.
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You know, I think that Democrats have been so scared of being branded as hypocrites or coloring outside of the lines that it has absolutely paralyzed them in this struggle for power in America. You don't see the other side worrying about any of that at all.
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What is he even talking about? Can you just bear with me for a second, guys? I got to think out loud for a minute. Actually, Cain and I, we're going to have a sidebar meeting. Hold the show for a minute. Welcome, blah, blah, blah.
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Hang on.
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I mean, do they send out the stupidest people for soundbites for the weekend? The dumbest, the dumbest Democrats on God's green earth. Did they send them? Did they just say, hey, we're going to send them out to do all the interviews over the weekend because we want to implode our part. The dumbest people, right?
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It's bad enough what we just heard, but there's more.
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Hi, welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second hour. On a money. Why does he start out with? He noticed how he has these things where he starts out like that. He has this thing that he does where he starts out like that and he says these things. He's out of all the. Why is that? Why are they talking to him? You would think that that people in the media would go. Can we find a Democrat that can win some things? Can we find a Democrat that can that has won some races? Maybe. to talk about these issues? Is that possible? We have anybody that's won anything? That doesn't sound completely ridiculous. Is it possible to have any of those people on? He's, I guess, being recruited to give a weird pep talk to Democrats somehow, Beto O'Rourke, because they're very, Democrats are in a very You have Hunter Biden, who is talking about races, talking like talking about how he's racist and dropping all kinds of F-bombs in his interviews. He's going out, I guess. Finally, he feels he's protected enough. He can defend himself. tried to go out and defend his father. Now you have Bader O'Rourke. There's a ton of Hunter Biden stuff out there. I think he says the F word every other word. And then you have now Bader O'Rourke, who also says this, whatever audio soundbite this is, seven, kill us now, please. Sorry. It's just, it's mundane. We're playing Bader O'Rourke. Go ahead.
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match fire with fire. I think Democrats in the past too often have been more concerned with being right than being in power. And we've seen Republicans only care about being in power regardless of what is right.
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So you support the Newsom effort because California right now has an independent commission that does districts in as fair a way as possible and nonpartisan as possible. You're saying Democrats should, even though you don't approve of it, Democrats should do it too.
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We have to get serious. We have to be absolutely ruthless about getting back in power. So, yes, in California, in Illinois, in New York, wherever we have the trifecta of power, we have to use that to its absolute extent. And the last thing this may end up biting. Republicans in the ass. You have the possibility that they will disperse Republican voters to make up these three or four or five new congressional districts and put those districts in play. So in Texas, we've got to get out there and register and meet the voters who are going to decide the outcomes in these next elections if they're successful with this redistricting. Our group, Powered by People, is doing this right now on the ground.
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It's law. When you have this many new people come in, First off, you're going to get additional... I mean, it's going to change the seat. When you have people that shift around in counties, it's going to change the map. It desperately needs to be redrawn. And if you want to have a discussion about gerrymandering, let's talk about what we're changing it from. What do you mean? They're going to put that in motion? Oh, my gosh. Like, I cannot... And he has no clue what he's talking about. So if you're just joining us, it's Robert O'Rourke, Beto O'Rourke. Remember, his dad gave him a Hispanic nickname and he told the Dallas Morning News years ago that he did it to ingratiate him with the Hispanic community. So he literally was appropriating. I don't know what he says that Democrats have to get more ruthless, more ruthless than what? Like Democrats have to get Democrats have to get more ruthless in terms of, as Cain noted, flying illegal immigrants all around the country. Democrats have to get more ruthless than allowing the deluge of illegal immigration at the border. Democrats have to get more ruthless than what? Then actually colluding to try to rob people of a free and fair election. Democrats have. That's the problem. I mean, if you listen to Bader O'Rourke, he's telling you exactly what Democrats are doing that's not working and he wants you to do more of it. I mean, I don't want Democrats to win, but I also think that there needs to be alternatives that I still don't like, but that aren't just completely bat redacted crazy either, which is what we're getting with the left. I mean, you're out of the Democrat Party. You're getting I mean, they're socialists. I've been saying they're socialists for 15 years now, and they are. I'm glad that everyone's realizing in the media that they are socialists used to. You couldn't go on a conservative network and really say that it was kind of, you know, really kind of frowned on. But now it's completely accurate because it's they're not hiding it anymore. I mean, when you're talking about free things for everyone and free college and free this and free that free being the. operative word. I guess people are just giving up their services and time for free when you're discussing free groceries and state owned grocery stores. Yeah, that's pretty much socialism. So he's out there saying that they have to get more ruthless. The problem has been the ruthlessness. People, voters are not responding to that. Voters are not responding to just, you know, the policy of just bitching and moaning. What have they put forward? Seriously, ask this. What have they actually put forward except complaints? OK, they don't like the economy. How would they change the economy for the better? They can't answer that. I think they I think it's a combination of some of them can't because they just don't understand basic economic principle. But I also think that they don't want to answer that because that they know that that means they have to be honest about what their party's policies are. What do you mean get more ruthless? How can they get any more ruthless than what they've been? They literally worked with big tech to shut people's voices down on social media. They suppressed stories about the first crackheads abandoned laptop. That was a real story and they suppressed it. People were arrested for trying to go back to work. How do you become more ruthless? How do you become more ruthless than literally colluding with social media to stop discussion of a Chinese virus? How do you get more ruthless than that? How do you get more ruthless than arresting people who tried to work during lockdown? How do you get more ruthless than shutting down the damn country? How do you get more ruthless than sending pallets of cash to Iran and appeasing a force that has blown up? I don't know how many American servicemen. How do you get more ruthless than that? How do you get more ruthless than sending jobs overseas? How do you get more ruthless than raising taxes and creating such an inhospitable business climate that we are literally offshoring every job and every bit of manufacturing that we possibly can in order to save cash from our punitive system? How do you get more ruthless than that? How do you get more ruthless than telling people that they can't eat proteins? that their body needs, that their bodies were designed to consume and digest. How do you get more ruthless than that? How do you get more ruthless than telling people that they can't drive what cars they want to drive? Or they shouldn't have air conditioning. And if they do, they shouldn't put it below 80. How do you get more ruthless than that? This is the problem. And they've been going out there, every single one of them. Do they have a quota of F-bombs that they have to drop in every one of their interviews in order to sound legitimate? Or do they have like a quota of cussing that they have to meet? And I say this as someone whose only vice is my mouth. But even I'm like, that's just cringe. That's like somebody who's a dork trying to be cool. Stop it. But they think that that makes them look tougher. That's not the problem. The problem isn't that they it's not an issue of whether or not they look tough. It's an issue of whether or not they're relatable. These people do not look relatable. My gosh, when you have all of these lily white Democrats up there going, oh, well, who's going to be washing our cars and picking our strawberries and cleaning our toilets if we don't allow these illegal immigrants to come in? Oh, my gosh. Could you be more unrelatable than that? who's going to mow our yards, you know, because the only jobs apparently that a legal immigrant, that any immigrant can do is menial tasks that's unwanted by the American left. It's just crazy. How do they get more ruthless than that? If they listen to people like Beto O'Rourke, they're I mean, golly. Yeah. As Kane said, who's going to if we don't have illegal immigration, who's going to pick our cotton? Oh, my gosh. If we don't have this if we don't have this subclass of people to do these tasks, how is it going to happen if we don't have this this class of people to pick our cotton? Who's going to pick our cotton? They're the same people. They are the same people as they always have been. Good night. Are any of them going to wake up and realize this? They go out and they say these things with straight faces. It's pure. It's just really stunning to me. Now, that being said, I had to pull this up because I had a couple of other online here that were pretty crazy, especially California. Speaking of which, so the left. So California's unemployment rate has risen to the highest in the country. This is the San Francisco Chronicle. And what is sure to make. Absolutely sure to make Gavin Newsom live it because, you know, he's out there trying to show California as you know, this is the blue dream, right? This is the state that is this is the state that is the dream for Democrats. The number of jobs in San Francisco and San Mateo counties, they said, I mean, they really didn't move. Everything else dropped. I mean, dropped literally into the gutter. They said that the state lost over 6,000 jobs. And that is, they also had nine over, almost 10,000 layoffs, actually, in business and professional services. And, oh, guess the sector of jobs where they actually saw a gain? Government jobs. They saw all other sectors shrink, but they saw an increase in government jobs came.
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That's not a gain.
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Oh, it's a gain in jobs. Look, he's out there creating government jobs. It's definitely not a gain. Their unemployment rate rose about 0.7 percentage points. So now it's 4.2% for June. So yes, the government sector, they had more government jobs, but all the other sectors shrank. They said, oh, well, the changes, you know, it's ongoing slowdown in the tech sector, the high cost of living and some of the state and local and state employment policies that make hiring more costly than other parts of the state. Democrat policies? Yeah, Democrat policies. Because who's run that era? Was Reagan the last Democrat there? Or sorry, kind of Republican there? No. He switched.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger. Didn't he run as a Republican or am I thinking? Are you serious? I thought he did.
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I mean, he did, but he was like virtually indistinguishable from a Democrat. I don't think that counts. Those don't count. I mean, especially when you have a Democrat state legislature, nothing. It's like a super majority. Nothing's going to change. So, I mean, is anybody do you think Gavin Newsom is going to explore the whys of how his state now has the highest unemployment rate in the nation on his podcast? Because he spent an inordinate amount of time bashing states like Alabama, bashing Mississippi. He's bashed like all of these southern states. He's bashed Texas. He's bashed Florida. I'm just very curious if this is, you know, he's finally number one in something. He's number one in unemployment. Wow. He's the unemployment governor. Great job, Gavin Newsom. Taking charge of your health is easier with All Family Pharmacy. If you've been hearing about the latest in brain and cellular health, you're not alone. Methylene Blue is making waves for supporting focus, mental clarity, memory, and mood. RFK Jr. has been talking about using it. And NAD+, that's your body's natural energy booster. It helps cells repair and potentially slows signs of aging. With All Family Pharmacy, you now have access to these cutting-edge treatments. Whether you're interested in Methylene Blue, NAD+, or even an emergency kit for your family, this is a pharmacy that you can trust. No corporate gatekeepers, no big pharma middlemen, and no bureaucratic roadblocks. All Family Pharmacy uses 100% domestically sourced materials for all their medications, ensuring top quality and safety. So go ahead and visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 for 10% off your order. And while you're there, check out their full list, over 200 medications available, including ivermectin, antibiotics, and more. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Ooh, boy. All right. So, yeah, this usually is what happens when you have Democrats that run things. So in Atlanta... Their population boom, their growth streak has come to an end. A lot of residents are leaving. They want more affordable metro areas if they want to live in the metro. They're either leaving for other more affordable cities or they're leaving for the burbs. They're done with it. And that's kind of common when you talk about Democrat leadership in these cities. Area 51 staff, they've been guarding a top secret project. I've been hearing about this for a long time. And they were left with fatal diseases after guarding this. This is they've had security guards at Nevada, their test and training range known as Area 51. Essentially, they said that there's it was built in the 70s and they said, but it's been contaminated with radiation because they had years of nuclear testing out there. But they said that they're not offered medical care, whether it's by U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs or elsewhere. And they have not been able to actually prove that they were exposed to radiation. And that's like, I guess, the big thing. The several, including some have gone on the record, like a former Air Force sergeant. said that the left side of his brain was atrophying. He told the VA that he was one of the, the House Veteran Affairs Committee, that he was one of the luckier ones. Apparently, there are hundreds of others that have had severe illnesses, fatal, since working at this former nuclear site. Yeah, you gotta, if you, don't expect people, there's a bad history of this. Just gonna say, there's a bad history of this in military. And you wanna talk about recruitment? You better be fixing how you take care of our veterans, because that's your biggest problem with recruitment right there. Also, a suspect hits over a dozen cars after he took off in a stolen fire engine. Good night. Those look hard to drive, I'm just going to say. Big old giant fire engine. This was in Everett, Washington. And the guy hit over a dozen cars, at least five separate accidents seen. So it took a long time for cops to try to contain all of that. And a new $200 student. Well, this is dumb. This is related to one particular university. We also have some WNBA stuff coming up. Pay Fights. Stick with us. It is our friends over at Super Beats. Their product, Super Breen. You can get it at, I mean, you can like, it's from the same people who do the Super Beats hard shoes. And now they have the Super Breen. And you can walk into a Sam's Club and get it. And it's less than a dollar a day. You can invest in metabolism and blood sugar support. And that's what Superberine does. It's not just any berberine that they use either. I mean, this is a, it's like a bougie berberine, if I'm being honest. But there's a reason. It's clinically studied. It delivers nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. And they accomplish this in a number of different ways. They make it to where it's a higher absorption rate. It's concentrated, so you're getting all of the goodness in just one easy-to-swallow capsule. And if you're worried about GI distress, SuperBrewing includes grapeseed extract that improves, adds for greater tolerability as well. You can find both the new SuperBrewing for your metabolism and blood sugar and the number one best-selling SuperBeats HeartChews all at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with the SuperBeats HeartChews and expand your routine with SuperBrewing for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support.
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F*** him and everybody around him. Oh, not to be f***ing nice. Number one, I agree with Quentin Tarantino. F*** George Clooney is not a f***ing actor. He is a f***. Like, I don't know what he is. He's a brand. And by the way, and God bless him. You know what? He supposedly treats his friends really well. You know what I mean? Buys them things. And he's got a really great place in Lake Como. And he's great friends with Barack Obama. F***. F*** you. What do you have to do with f***ing anything? Why do I have to f***ing listen to you? What right do you have to step on a man who's given 52 years of his f***ing life to the service of this country and decide that you, George Clooney, are going to take out basically a full-page ad?
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I don't know why he's mad at George Clooney. There was so much in this audio, this interview that he gave, where he was... I still think it's like it's insane. This is some of the stuff that because he went after everybody from James Carville. He went after David Axelrod. He went after Rahm Emanuel. He went after I guess all these people that he thinks were part of. pushing his his father out, I guess somehow. And I don't know. I don't hold any of those. I don't know why they think that those people are responsible for pushing out Joe Biden when I mean, it's Joe. Clearly, his health did not allow him to do this job. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. That's that insane interview that Hunter Biden gave, which I think is. Normally, I would just kind of roll my eyes and shrug my shoulders and be like, whatever. But I think it serves a couple of different purposes. And in terms of playing it for you. The first, obviously, is I think that there is... serious it's a serious example of two-tier system of justice because you know as he's going on and on and we talked about this last hour illegal immigration and as he's saying that it's a racist to have borders and all this stuff you know he was also accused of Mexicans of apparently the crime of throwing his. Yeah, sorry. Shady think you can quote unquote shady Mexicans of apparently that's the reason why his gun was in. He blamed them for the trash can, the gun in the trash can across the street from the school where his sister. I'm sorry. It gets confusing. Sister in law lover. side piece, tossed it into the trash can across the piece from the school. Then he was, then he was going off about illegal immigration. And there was this one insane soundbite where he was lamenting, I guess, the fact that, you know, Kilmar Brego Garcia was, was sent to El Salvador. And he said, if I was the president, I would invade. He said this in this interview. He said, if I was the president, I would, I would call him up. I would call the president of El Salvador. And I would, I would be like, you're going to, you know, basically release this guy or I'm going to invade. Wow. So the reason this brings me to the second reason why I think playing this is important. He was in the I know that they're trying to backtrack that now because they realize how horrible it looks and they have no cover anymore because everyone else has kind of given up on Joe. And all the Bidens are trying to do right now is save Joe Biden's legacy because that's, you know, still some kind of money making opportunity for them. But he was there and there were numerous stories and there were numerous confirmations of how he was living in the White House. He was living in the White House and he was also involved in some pretty high level meetings. He was going there with Joe Biden. He was going to these high level meetings with Joe Biden. He was traveling with him internationally. He was sitting there when he would have his cabinet meetings that came out. This is the type. I mean, you heard what he well, you hear it, but you that soundbite where he literally was saying, I'm going to invade El Salvador. That's just insane. If I was president, I would have invaded. Can you imagine if this had happened while his dad was still in the White House? This is the stuff that he would be telling his dad. Yeah, you need to call the president of El Salvador and I'm going to invade El Salvador. Unless what? Unless you return a human trafficking, wife beating resident, literally of El Salvador that you're, if they don't send their citizen back, you're going to invade them. What?
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kane's face is so his eyes are so wide right now i can see them all the way well i mean it was biden that threatened ukraine with holding back a billion dollars if they didn't have a prosecutor fired so it seems like yeah he learned it from watching him he did doesn't he sound like joe
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He sounds like Joe Biden. You hear the young jack wagon Joe Biden in these interviews coming out in Hunter, don't you? So I was at Joe Biden, this idea that he's like some harmless grandpa. Dude is a jack wagon. He's always been a jack wagon. You go and look at any of the stuff that he did when he was younger, any of the times that he was, you know, on the Senate floor. He was a jerk. Hunter Biden sounds just like him. But that's a very good point. He because if you remember, he I mean, they didn't he he had Hunter on that trip with him, too, if I remember correctly. And Joe Biden was he wanted to withhold. I'm going to look at my my digital files for this. Yeah, he did not want. Remember, that prosecutor was the one who was investigating some of the nefarious criminal activity involving Burisma. Right. And that he remember that whole story because he was on the board of Burisma. Hunter, yeah, exactly. And Burisma was actually under scrutiny. It just wasn't public. I know USA Today was trying to do a walk around it, but there's conflicting reporting to what USA Today was saying. They were absolutely, there was a lot that was on the radar already with Burisma. There was a lot of suspicion. And U.S. and also USA Today did say, yes, he did. It is true that Joe Biden leveraged a billion dollars in aid to get Victor Shokin fired. Victor Shokin was the top prosecutor. And that was back in March of 2016. And they they're trying to say, well, you know, it wasn't really because, you know, because a breeze. No, no, no. It was because he was actually getting too close to it. He was getting too close to the whole Burisma thing and the fact that Hunter Biden was on that board. And so he absolutely did. Now, remember when Trump was talking to Zelensky, remember, and he was discussing, you know, any kind of aid, etc.? ? They were trying to accuse Trump of doing the very thing that actually Joe Biden had done. And that was ultimately the veneer behind which they claimed was that they said that that was the justification for impeaching Trump the first time when they in his first term. They impeached him because of his call with Ukraine and he was trying to withhold funding and he wasn't trying to withhold funding. He wanted accountability from funding. He never said he was going to withhold funding. In fact, he gave a greenlit funding. So that was that was stupid. That was all fake. But they were trying to say that Trump was doing actually exactly what Biden ended up doing. Nothing ever happened with Biden. Nothing ever happened with him at all whatsoever. And Biden was on stage and we play that audio. He was on stage bragging about it. He was talking about how he had used, you know, his authority as vice president at the time. He had used his authority to really kind of, you know, muscle over and get this independent prosecutor, get this investigator out. So he was bragging about that. So, yeah, when you hear. Hunter Biden make these like claims and demands. That's it sounds very much. It sounds just like his dad, just like his dad. So, again, this isn't good for Democrats because it hires this. It highlights this double tier, this this this double tier system of justice. That a couple of other things I want to make sure that we're getting into. So. This, we were talking about some of the classified records earlier that had been declassified that showed, yes, he was trying to sabotage the transition of power in 2016. This is all stuff that we knew. And I don't want you to misunderstand and think that I am in any way unhappy that all of what we know is now, you know, even more confirmed than it was before because it was already pretty confirmed. My complaint is this. I feel like sometimes these bureaucrats give us things like this. Like, for instance, we knew that the Obama administration was abusing U.S. intelligence and was doing everything that they could to concoct. Some, you know, these ridiculously false claims to substantiate a need to spy on their political opponents. Right. So we all know this and we all know because we've had, you know, the FISA judge that had to resign. We've had Hillary Clinton and the DNC that were fined for not disclosing all of this stuff in relation to hiring fusion GPS, etc. We know these things. My my complaint in that. Oh, well, here's these declassified records. Well, I don't want that to be the substitute of action on accountability. And I feel like so often it is. It's like the bureaucrats, they throw us a bone like, oh, yeah, you guys were right. Here's the files. And then we're like, oh, that's great. And then we talk about it for two weeks and then nothing ever happens. And then it kind of, you know, just slides off of the out of our our immediate focus. And I don't that's I don't want that to happen here. And I feel like without any sort of follow through, that's what's going to happen. Right. I mean, this is we all knew this. I mean, the coup wasn't there was no coup on January 6th. There was a coup. There was a coup leading up to 2016 and even after. Do you guys remember going into 2016? I think it was at a debate or was a campaign speech and can you we don't have to pull up the auto, but do you remember this when Trump was talking about Russian? Involvement a potential Russian involvement in the election because it came out and this was like September October of 2016. It came out that the DNC servers had been hacked and you guys remember the story. And the DNC servers were hacked. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was head of the DNC at the time, was asked, we need to have, you know, do you want a forensic investigation? And she was saying, no, no, no, we're investigating it ourselves. And I always thought it was weird that they never wanted a full and thorough independent investigation to see what was or wasn't compromised. And Trump had mentioned it on the campaign trail. And then it came out. I think it was an interview that Barack Obama was giving in favor of Hillary Clinton, one of the few times that he actually spoke up in favor of her. He said that, oh, well, you know, there's no Russian. That's so silly. He goes, there's no way that anybody could steal an election. He said it's because it's too decentralized. And there's no way. So Trump needs to just stop whining about this and just focus on, you know, campaigning. He was saying it as... Basically, he was accusing Trump of trying to set up this idea that he wouldn't win in 2016 because of election theft. Right. And Barack Obama was raining all over it. And he called he was he suggested that Trump was stupid for even being afraid of it. Like, oh, no, voting is so decentralized. There's no way this could happen. Well, then he won in 2016. And all the Democrats were saying, oh, my gosh, the Russians stole the election. They stole his argument and weaponized it against him. I think it was because they were really trying hard to do everything that they could to make that election not happen. Yeah. They were trying to make do everything possible to make it to where Trump didn't win. Trump won. And I think, you know, well, now we know we knew that Obama was involved. And I think he felt comfortable in saying what he did in an interview on that subject because he knew what he was doing behind the scenes. He knew that they were that they had already met to concoct this, you know, ridiculous accusation of collusion. All the while, he was telling everyone publicly that it was stupid and that Trump shouldn't he should just focus on campaigning. Right. I mean, yeah, the DNC, you all remember that. And they said, well, you know, Russia, they and they even admitted that. Do we have time to play? This is 25. This is Heinz.
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Just so you can hear the hypocrisy in this one statement from this guy, it's actually pretty astounding.
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He says that what Gabbard puts out is a lie. Now remember, Gabbard was still a far-left Democrat at this time during all that investigation. He was saying that the files are a lie, and then they were also talking about the involvement of Russia in the election stuff. Listen.
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Now what Tulsi is doing, it's a little sleight of hand, but it's worth focusing on. She is saying that the Intelligence Committee early on said that the Russians could not use cyber tools to mess with the voting infrastructure, the machines that tally our votes. And that was true then, and it is true now. Though the Russians tried to break into a couple of states, election technical infrastructure, they didn't do it. But it is well known and well established that the Russians hacked into the DNC and undertook any number of other influence operations, including buying reams of Facebook ads to discredit Hillary Clinton.
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They bought ads. Anybody can buy ads. They bought ads. And and he also noted, yeah, they did hack into the DNC system. Why didn't Democrats want that to be investigated? And then while all this was happening, they were having these secret meetings in the White House. to concoct a collusion narrative that they were going to use against Republicans. We got more on this. Our partners for this portion of our program, it's our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. Patriot Mobile not only wants to save you money, but they also want to make sure that your money is not working against you at the ballot box. And that's incredibly important. They want to support the causes that matter to you. And they're like minded. So it all works out. It's nationwide coverage you can trust. They have exceptional nationwide service on all three major networks, so you're connected wherever it is that you go. And they're dedicated to making your switch easy. They have a 100% US-based customer service team. You can keep your number, keep your phone, upgrade. It's never been easier to switch. And they also have cutting-edge technology. You don't have to go to the store. No, no hassle, no store visit. Again, keep your phone, upgrade, keep your number, change it. It does not matter. Their team will activate you in minutes. So take advantage of their offer of a free month of service by using promo code Dana. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT. Make the switch today. And don't forget to use code Dana to get that free month of service. patriotmobile.com slash Dana 972-PATRIOT.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Bradford County traffic stop became a drug bust because a guy decided he was going to try to ditch the authorities and so he drove into a ditch. Yeah, he did ditch it. He exited the car and then tried to throw away a bag of white powder, which absolutely was cocaine. Yes, you're correct. Hunter Biden was nowhere to be found. They confirmed that it contained almost 30 grams of cocaine. And he had a lot more cocaine in his pockets, too. So he was booked on trafficking charges, held without bond, the guy. Yeah, you're not... I'm just trying to understand the... thought process of driving one's sedan into a ditch a pretty you know deep ditch and thinking you're going to be able to get out of that not going to happen uh this guy threatens to shoot a supermarket employee because of pork bellies Mm-hmm. Broward County. Mm-hmm. yelled, stop being a rat and mind your business. And then he threatened to shoot the guy in the face. He said that he had a firearm, which I don't think he did. But no firearm was ever visibly seen. And he returned the items to the store shelf, but then continued to chase the employee inside the store. I mean, talk about really doubling down on stupid. So he was arrested, taken to Broward's jail, and he's being held still on $10,000 bond. He probably could have gotten away. Yeah. But he decided he was going to be. Yeah. So this guy was mad over a ding dong ditch. And so he decided to run down three kids with his car. The kids ding dong ditched at his house. He was mad. Collier County sheriffs. They said that he was arrested, charged with two counts of aggravated assault with intent to commit a felony. Fifty one years old. Apparently, the kids rang his doorbell, ran away. and they were riding on scooters, and then all of a sudden this guy, he didn't take kindly to it, came up behind them with headlights and was chasing them down in the street. A neighbor saw it, called 911. The guy was taken into custody, and he's charged. That's not the way to deal with that. Third hour on the way. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. The former transportation secretary, secretary, new dad, poop booty juice. Well, he wasn't a very good secretary of transportation. I mean, I really don't know what he knew about transportation other than he was the one time mayor of South Bend. And he was also the vice admiral, rear vice admiral of the canoe fleet at Camp Wimpy Tonka. And he liked buses, you know, couldn't fill a pothole to save his life, though. And his agency, while he was at Department of Transportation, his agency apparently spent $80 billion on DEI grants and apparently it delayed air traffic control upgrades. Huh. Now, you know he wants to run for president in 2028. He's very much like he's on board with that. But apparently, yeah, he is eyeing a 2028 presidential run. He told executives that air traffic control upgrades would allow them to fly more planes, and so why would that be in his interest, sources said. They handed out over 80 billion over four years. That was half of all of the Department of Transportation's entire budget for a typical fiscal year, according to records. They said, yes, he was definitely pushing an agenda. And he apparently had, quote, little to no interest and took zero action towards air traffic control modernization. Oh, my gosh. The safety system that hasn't been updated since the Carter administration. And he did nothing there. What do you mean? Don't you think? OK, this might be a naive question. But if you're going to be the transportation secretary, shouldn't you at least have some sort of working knowledge about how the hell it works? I don't know how Department of Transportation works. I know that they're supposed to handle stuff like that, right? Yeah. And he didn't do it. Remember he was also – how long was he gone? He was like gone eight weeks. After he purchased some babies, he was gone for eight weeks for maternity leave. The best – the cherry on the top was when they both got into like – like pajamas and sat in a hospital bed, like they pushed the baby out of their birth canals themselves. And he did not take any questions. He was basically, not basically, he was MIA, according to people within the Department of Transportation, if you remember. While we had the supply chain crisis and all that stuff, he was nowhere to be found. So the Booty Juice's spokesperson, Chris Meager, of course his name is Meager, his Meager spokesman, Said no, no, no. I mean, if there was some like new flight routes and stuff that was added, what are you talking about? They had an air traffic controller shortage, apparently, and they weren't upgrading systems. And he was doing nothing to help with that, according to all of these insiders that are blowing the whistle on him right now. The 80 billion in 80 billion, 80 billion dollars. On DEI grants, isn't the thing with Delta that happened over the weekend, wasn't that said to have done, weren't people complaining about DEI also, you know, where they had a pilot that had to take aggressive maneuvers and all this stuff because they got too close to this other jet? A lot of people have been talking about the air traffic control industry and how they need more actual, like, competent air traffic controllers. So, I mean, apparently he didn't do a whole hell of a lot over at dot cane. He didn't do anything. I mean, what is the point of having the department if you're not doing anything that has to do with transportation? That is the I have to do with this.
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You know, if I spent 80 billion, even just 80 billion in that department, which, by the way, more was spent. I would have something to show for it. I would say, hey, look at this. Look at this thing I did with 80 billion. What does he have to show for it? Because there's no improvements in the Department of Transportation as it relates to air traffic control. So what do you do?
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Yeah, absolutely nothing. The focus of his, it says under Buttigieg, the focus of the department shifted dramatically. They had 400 DEI-related grants approved, and that was an audit of federal spending between 2021 and 2024. Grants for diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. They said that programs like Justice 40, which sent about 55% of about $150 billion in infrastructure investments to quote-unquote disadvantaged communities pursuant to an executive order that Biden signed to quote, advance equitable outcomes. So that's the Justice 40. Justice 40 initiative, they say the categories investment are climate change, clean energy, energy efficiency, sustainable and affordable housing, remediation, legacy pollution, What? That's that's what they're that's what they're. Yeah. And this was Biden's twenty one one point two infrastructure law. Five billion equity. That was, by the way, that part of that money. Do you guys remember the oh, my gosh, this is where I create the craziest stories. The electrical the electric vehicle charging stations. Do you guys remember that? So they only built seven. Seven. Like seven. By June of 2024. And that was a $5 billion equity effort. They were supposed to build 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations and only seven were built. Now you might be like, well, what is that? What do you mean equitable? What is the equity effort? The equitable effort? What does that mean? Okay, so I remember we had this story. Let me just bring it back up because it's been almost a year ago. Let me just bring this back up to you. So they had this program where they were supposed to build like half a million of these charging stations. They only did seven of them. And the people in DOT or in departments in which they fall under the purview of Department of Transportation, like the Federal Highway Administration, et cetera, et cetera, they were the ones who started talking to the press about it. And the reason being is because of that equitable thing, that little equitable equity word in there that I had mentioned. They were not a lot. Remember, they had all these requirements. If you were going to build a charging station, you had to be minority-owned and you had to have X amount of minorities. It wasn't enough to be minority-owned. If you were a black business owner, but you didn't have enough minorities on your staff, then you were not considered. I mean, that's how crazy it was. And you had to have an interpreter. And they did, oh my gosh, what was it? Block parties. Remember all this stuff? And people were saying, you're not going to be able... To get anything built with this with these type of requirements, you're not going to be able to get anything built. And it actually. It I mean, it was blamed for holding all of this back. There were all of these secret documents that came out. Daily Caller had a big thing on it. And so did the Free Beacon. And they were reporting on how. All these internal documents showed how all of these stupid DEI demands made it impossible to. I mean, I'm surprised they got seven built. Honestly, it was described as a, quote, mess. And it said that the DEI requirements were hamstringing Biden's EV agenda. And that was why they were behind the charging station goals. And I'm saying this because this is all part of this $80 billion, apparently, that Poot Booty Juice was just giving away to DEI stuff. That's how bad it was. You had to show neighborhood initiatives. If you held a block party and all that. What the hell are you doing? You're building an EV state. You're building a damn charging station. Meaningful public involvement. Now, it wasn't enough to do it a one-off. You had to prove that this would occur throughout the project's life cycle. They never actually meant, they never actually defined what public involvement was, but they just gave, the reason I said block parties is because they gave that as an example. The DO, the Department of Transportation documents. By the way, all this is on the internet. That's the stuff. Yeah. Visual preference surveys, games and contests and neighborhood block parties. Those were some of the examples that they gave and that the grant recipient had to provide multilingual staff or interpreters to interact with community members who use language other than English. So it wasn't even that you had to have an interpreter for your employees. You literally had to employ an interpreter to talk to the community. You, the person building the EV charging station. So Kane, if Kane had a company that wanted to that was bidding for a contract to build a charging station. They'd be like, okay, well, you're half Hispanic. I guess that's half enough. How many people of color do you have in your staff? How many minorities do you have in your staff? And if he didn't have enough minorities on his staff, he wouldn't be considered. If he did, then he had to further show that he had an interpreter on staff, not even to deal with his own employees, but to just talk with the community about, He would have to prove that they were doing all these events and stuff for the community as part of the, quote, meaningful public involvement that was never defined, but was only really only showcased by examples of which block parties were mentioned. You would have to do all of that. You're even the the sourcing of the materials that you used. You had to make a good faith effort to show that you were getting information. sourcing for your production from other minority owned or disadvantaged, minority owned companies or companies in disadvantaged areas. Wrap your head around that. Wrap your head around that. Why do you think we only had seven of these damn things built? This was under Poot Booty Juice. And people in Department of Transportation were like this, like actual other leftists. We're like, this is the stupidest burp that we've ever seen. They said, you are hamstringing this. Hamstringing it. Meanwhile, Department of Transportation is out there going, well, since Biden took office, the public available charging ports, it's grown wildly. It's grown like over 90 percent. Not because of you. Not because of you. So this was just a slush fund. DEI is just a slush fund. All it is is another way to redistribute money. That's all it is. That's all it is. It's just a way to redistribute money. So going back to this, this was under, this is all that Justice 40 stuff. This is all a part of that $80 billion deal. That Poot Booty Juice was in charge of and that he was spending more towards like DEI and all of this other stuff than actually going and pursuing air traffic controllers, upgrading safety systems, doing all of those things. And what was his and his excuse was, oh, well, you can walk and chew gum at the same time, meaning, well, I can do this and I can do these other things. Remember that time that was remember we had that whole thing. But you're not doing the other things is what people are pointing out to you. So, I mean, he, he just, I honestly, all of this stuff, I think it's very interesting that we had all of these incidents that stem from the perfect storm of his, if you want to call it leadership over a department of transportation. Good heavens. By the way, we spent $4 billion to refunds for customers because of consumer complaints. Remember he had that whole initiative set up? That wasn't airlines that was paying that. That was taxpayers that were paying that. We were paying that. Unreal.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
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This is such a weird headline. So if Gen Z is staring at you, it may be more than just a quirk. It's called the Gen Z stare. It's a blank look. They said that Gen Zers give to their elders. And it's like another intergenerational. When they say intergenerational, who are fighting? Because I feel like Gen X, we're just like doing our thing and we don't care. So is it like boomers or millennials? Who's fighting with Gen Z? I feel like everybody's fighting. Yeah. So they said that it's called the Gen Z stare. Like it's a blank deadpan look. And they just kind of have you ever seen? I don't know that I've ever seen that. Have you? I don't know, but they said that that's like... RBF.
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We already have it.
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Yeah, but that's RBF. That's like not just a blank kind of like dumbfounded like kind of stare. I don't know. Golly, that's the latest, though, with it. Let's see. A woman commandeers the Queens Inn train for a one stop joyride, say NYPD. I don't know how you do that. She she broke into a whole train, a whole actual train. It was parked and she took it for a joyride and then disappeared. It is their third train hijacking in a year. Yeah. So maybe get somebody to watch them trains is all I'm saying. You know what I mean? They said it took place at 430 in the morning and it went to one stop. She got off and she fled. Hmm. They're trying to figure out how she gained access to it. I'm sure you are. Maybe figure that out. So the corner says that Annabelle doll was not present in the hotel room when that dude kicked the bucket. That paranormal investigator. He says that it wasn't. I mean, maybe. I'm surprised you didn't go, was it the Vax? I'm like waiting for you to say that.
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Ghost Vax. Ghost Vax.
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They said it's still an active investigation, but the doll was not in there. That's what the doll wants you to believe. Just want to say. Just, you know. Let's see. Oh, gosh. Doctors played a music bingo game during routine eye surgery, but it apparently resulted in a man's death. According to Channel 9 News, the guy never regained consciousness. This was like in 2023 in Colorado. They finally settled it, but apparently they missed critical signs in the patient. Stick with us. More in store.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the bottom of this third hour. And don't forget the stream. You can watch the radio program. Sounds weird to say. Channel 347, DirecTV. You can listen around the country. The chat's at Rumble. Also, X, Facebook, all that good stuff. So we've been talking a lot about some of these... The documents that prove what we already know as it relates to a lot of the Russian collusion, etc. We've got that to head because I'm very interested in our next guest's opinion on it. But then also, I'm a little nervous about this one headline in particular that I've read as it involves Pakistan, China, and India. So let's go to our friend Stephen Yates. You can find him at yatescomsonx. Now, I don't struggle with saying it. Senior Research Fellow at the Heritage Foundation. And he's also an expert. on China. I mean, also to foreign policy in general. He worked in two presidential administrations. He joins us now. Before we get into some of the other meat and potatoes that I have, Stephen, first off, it's always so good to see you. We're grateful for your time. I'm curious as to what you think about these documents now from DNI that are being made, that are being declassified. It kind of proves everything that we knew about the Russian collusion. And I was diving into some of the you know, the false narratives leading up to the 2016 election, because it seemed like, you know, here you have Democrats trying to create this narrative. I remember when the DNC servers got hacked before the 2016 election and Trump said something to the effect of, well, is anybody worried that China might try or Russia might try to affect the outcome of our elections? And Obama told him to shut up and campaign that they were too decentralized. All the while they were making up this narrative to accuse him of doing what they actually were doing.
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Well, I mean, really, it's kind of a painful reminder of what we went through because a lot of us that had just common sense and a little bit of experience knew that this didn't look right, smell right. You could tell just by the way the processes were unfolding that something was underway that wasn't all it was being sold to be. And especially, I think for me, the threshold moment was the laptop. And that's when you sort of sensed that something untoward was being done. Now you knew it was, and the reach was absolutely comprehensive. The fact that they had all of these odd meetings and people like the national security advisor were sending very weird emails to herself for the record as she headed out of the White House. I mean, all of the flags were there. I don't understand why some of the incoming team didn't see some of the things that they walked into, but not entirely their fault. They never should have had to worry about walking into this because these other people, I think, violated their oath of office, very likely violated the law and the Constitution in what they did.
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I agreed. And there's never going to be any accountability. It seems like there will never be accountability for it, which is why I think people are so focused on this two tiers system of justice that we seem to have. Now, of course, when it comes to involvement from from foreign entities, I wanted to get your thoughts on this upcoming meeting. That's going to be, I think, in October, the APEC summit that's going to be in South Korea. Is Trump actually going to meet with Xi Jinping?
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I strongly suspect the answer to that is yes. President Trump has been pretty clear that he wants to meet in person, that he wants to de-escalate tensions with China. He's got this broader agenda of rebalancing the economic relationship, a whole host of things. And of course, he's already met with Putin. He's tried to have negotiations with the Iranian leadership. And China has kind of been inching towards this. It's pretty traditional that a president would go to the APEC summit being hosted so close to China in South Korea. It's really a question of do they meet on the margins of that or have a separate trip. I just think that all signs point to President Trump probably visiting before APEC and then we'll see what comes of it. But that's October.
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I know. It seems like it's going to be here before we know it, crazily enough. And then, of course, we'll be in full swing for the midterm cycle. And I'm wondering, of the things that come up, he had just, and I was pulling this post up, he had signed the Halt Fentanyl Act into law, which permanently classifies fentanyl-related substances as a Schedule I drug under the Controlled Substances Act. I actually have to be I was actually shocked it wasn't already that to be perfectly honest. And obviously the story hits, you know, very personal for you, personal for so many people that have been impacted by just this this fentanyl and all everything coming across the southern border. What what sort of impact is this going to have?
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Well, I just favor them lining up every single thing they can do to designate every input to this angel of death as something that is basically an act of war on American families and communities. We've talked numerous times. I also favor it being designated as a weapon of mass destruction. The illicit precursors, not the pills that get pressed. I'm not looking for people to go into the neighborhood and lock up people forever, although I wouldn't shed a tear on that. What I'm really focused on is the people that are bringing mass quantities of the chemicals in to make this deadly stuff. And so making it listed as that category, I think, will increase some mandatory sentences and maybe increase fines for arrest. There's all kinds of little things that would add up. I favor that. But ultimately, we have to put maximum pressure on the supply. And that, I hope, President Trump aims to do if he does sit down with Xi Jinping and say, look, it's been more than half a year since he's been in office. You've had the 20% tariffs for this purpose in place. What do you say? Are you going to make a deal? Are you going to do something? If not, something heavy has to happen.
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That's exactly what I was going to ask next, because I know that that's been, you know, used in this as part of these negotiations. Like, look, you need to do something about fentanyl if you want to have if you want to enjoy, you know, more normalized trade relations with the United States. I mean, of course, you know, I would imagine that Xi Jinping would be completely amenable to it, you know, when he's there in person. But when they go back to Beijing is the difference.
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Absolutely. And really, I, you know, I, of course, speak from a bias on this, but I just think that hundreds of thousands of American fatalities and that number of families and many more relatives also directly affected by this. You can't put a price tag on it. There's no amount. of investment or normal trade relations that can compensate for the enormous hole that you have in your life by this happening. And so whether they want to fix a few of the non-tariff barriers or they want to buy some more ag products, that's not enough to me. But as I say, I speak from a bias on this.
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Yeah. Well, and it's not by it's just observable scientific fact, not even a bias. You just are very familiar with the science of it. And, you know, I would I would hope that I mean, what would China stand to lose by? I mean, I get it. I get the asymmetrical warfare and I completely agree with that. And I think that that's, you know, absolutely, you know, a motivating factor. I mean, but clearly they would rather enjoy, you know. better trade with the United States than to be able to keep insisting on doing business with the cartels with all these precursors for fentanyl.
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Easiest thing in the world for Xi Jinping to do is to just tell President Trump, I had no idea. We went and we investigated. We got to the bottom of it. We locked a few people up. We sent a few people away to disappear. You're going to see a downturn in this. You have my word. And then make sure that the evidence is seen for a few months that the downturn happened. I mean, what does he really lose by having some thugs and money launderers or others disappear, even if it's temporarily? But he hasn't even bothered to do the least, in my view. And that's why I think the U.S. side needs to be very, very tough. We have broader interests than just this. But this is a big one to me, and it's a litmus test. If you can't get serious on hundreds of thousands of American fatalities, then I have no faith you'll honor a trade agreement.
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That's a good point. Talking with our friend Stephen Yates at Yates Comes On X. This is a headline that, well, I don't want to read too much into it, but any headline like this is troubling to me. From Reuters, Trump's renewed interest in Pakistan has India recalibrating China ties. you know, obviously, India, Pakistan, they've they've had conflict for some time. I mean, really, ultimately, I think it was Pakistan, India retaliated to Pakistan, but I don't know why there's this weird interest that the United States has in Pakistan at the expense of some entity that I think could be a great ally to the United States. But I also know that India and China have their own history. But yet, if they're recalibrating ties with China, to me, this is an alert. This is an alarm. This is a warning sign to me. How do you analyze this? I mean, he had a POTUS had a lunch meeting with Pakistan's military chief, as Reuters reported, and that's when India filed apparently this diplomatic protest. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think it's it's that is this just like basic diplomacy or is this something a little bit more nefarious?
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I would consider this to be sort of a warning signal, but nothing to hit the panic button with over yet. We have much bigger weighted equities with India. The president has a multiple year and unusually close relationship with the prime minister of India relative to past presidents and past prime ministers there. And so I don't think this is something the president would marginalize or cast aside lightly. And so I think it's perfectly right to sort of throw the flag and say what's going on here. And the Indians have a way of saying any kind of interaction on that account. is problematic. We might look at China. Well, they've been playing footsie with China and some other areas all along anyway, and they have a relationship with Russia that is a little bit complicated too. But overall, India is an opportunity account. We should double down and make the most of it. But let's see where this Pakistan stuff goes. There's just so much at stake in the greater Asia, and India has to be a really, really important building place for the alternative to China. But the positives with Japan and a lot of our East Asia allies is balancers. So I think it's good to watch, but I wouldn't take too much just yet on this story.
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It worries me if there's any. I don't know what the interest impact, what would the administration's interest in Pakistan be anyway?
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Well, there are some engines of some economic growth in Pakistan. So there might be some issues that are related to manufacturing. There could be some things that have to do with minerals or other valuables that are in their territory. They are a nuclear power. And so trying to make sure they're responsible and not causing problems, not just with India, but with others, there could be real equities there. But for every one of those equities, there's probably two or three positives that we want to keep with India. So that's just where I think the balance ought to be.
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Goodness. So hopefully that balance. I don't know. Last quick question for you. With APEC coming in this October, what do you think should be the main focus? I mean, I know we've got weeks before it's going to happen, but I also know that they lay the groundwork before these meetings very, very far in advance. What should the administration do to have the most successful outcome going into this?
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Well, I hope that before they get to that, they will have at least signed some kind of framework agreements with Japan and maybe the host country, Korea. It would be really awkward to go to an APEC hosted in Korea, and we don't have that done yet. So really, fingers crossed that that's quickly approaching the finish line. And this is supposed to be something that's economics first. It would be good if it was that because, you know, from multiple conversations, I'm deeply skeptical that when you get more than two people in a room at one of these Gs, and APEC has several countries together, the diminishing marginal returns are huge. And so I don't really want a lot to be decided at this. It's an opportunity to have bilaterals. But really, I hope it bolsters South Korea, bolsters the positive high-tech manufacturing ecosystem of the responsible APEC members, which wouldn't include China.
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There you go. Steven Yates, always a pleasure. My friend at Yates comes on X. So good to see you. Thanks so much for your time. I hope you have a great rest of your week. Thank you.
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Thank you, Dana.
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Take care.
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You too.
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So POTUS is threatening this stadium deal. over the Redskins name in Cleveland. He's threatening to hold up a new stadium deal for Washington's NFL team if it does not restore the old name of Redskins. This is coming out of ESPN Cleveland. They said that he wants Cleveland's baseball team also to revert to its former name, the Indians, saying there was a big clamoring for it. You realize, and I don't know how many people were aware of this, but because it's only the white progressives that are very upset over this, they actually did survey actual Native Americans. And I don't mean like Elizabeth Warrens. I mean like real, actual American Indians.
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They must have been really upset then.
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Yeah. And the poll found that nine out of 10 say they are totally not offended by the Redskins name. That's probably it's my video. They're not offended by the Redskins name at all. They surveyed over 500 American Indians. And this was the Washington Post, believe it or not. They can. I know this was done in 2016. Nobody paid attention to the story. It was doesn't even have any views. When you look at the story is like no views. It's like WAPO like buried it. And they said that, yes, nine out of 10. They actually they're not offended by it. And they actually like like the name. They actually like the name. So the only people who are upset over this were apparently the white progressives. They were the only ones who were apparently mad about this name. So he wants to he said he would hold up. I don't know if that's what POTUS should be involved in doing. holding up a business deal over something. I mean, I get a little nervous when government gets involved, but we'll talk more about that tomorrow. Today's stupidity came.
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All right. Apparently, Molly Jung Fast, whoever the hell that is.
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Oh, she's an Epo baby.
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She thinks that whenever programming doesn't
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generate enough revenue than more at least more revenue than it costs somehow that's a scary thing with colbert listen to this so you wrote about this and you say colbert's cancellation simply not funny yes simply not funny but also um really scary right and and even if it's not put pro quo the idea of self-censorship and i talk about my grandfather howard fast who was um
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It couldn't make the money it takes to produce it.
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Sorry. So if you're not successful at your job and you lose your job, are you canceled? Because that doesn't make sense. Folks, be back with you tomorrow. Find us on Facebook, YouTube, like and subscribe.
In this insightful episode of Washington Watch, Tony Perkins dives into the escalating tensions in the Middle East with freelance war correspondent Chuck Holton reporting directly from Israel. They explore Israel's difficult balancing act amidst Syrian conflict, the controversial choice made by the US Special Envoy for Syria, and how geopolitical actions could influence future interventions. Listen as former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton shares expertise on Iran's nuclear aspirations and the international response, including a close examination of how the US stands on domestic and international sovereignty issues.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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What happened in the last few days is so complicated. Israel's intervention in the midst of this creates another very confusing chapter. But the answer is we have to stop the senseless killing.
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That was U.S. Special Envoy for Syria Thomas Barak commenting on the escalating situation in Syria. Welcome to this July 21st edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up on today's program, freelance war correspondent Chuck Holton joins us live from Israel with the latest, not only on the conflict with Syria, but new tensions between Israel and the United States.
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Nations who accept the new regulations are signing over their power in health emergencies to an unelected international organization that could order lockdowns, travel restrictions, or any other measures it sees fit. In fact, it doesn't even need to declare an emergency. Potential public health risks are enough for it to initiate action.
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That was Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy discussing why the United States rejected amendments proposed by the World Health Organization. We'll unpack what that means and what comes next. Also, newly obtained documents show the Biden administration was actively searching for ways to criminally charge parents who showed up at public school board meetings during COVID. Congressman Tim Wahlberg, chairman of the House Education Committee, joins us to weigh in.
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the ayatollahs still want nuclear weapons. And the question is whether they can bluff us out of surveillance over their nuclear sites to make sure that they can't rebuild from the damage that's been done to them. This regime has never modified its radical theology that came into power back in 1979.
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That was former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton, who joined me over the weekend for my weekend program. I'm going to share a portion of that conversation we had with you about Iran. And finally, pastors across Louisiana are rallying in defense of Pastor Luke Ash, who was fired by the East Baton Rouge Parish Library for refusing to use so-called preferred pronouns. One of the pastors leading the effort, Pastor Louis Rickerson, joins me to explain why many pastors see this as a cultural red line. All of that and more ahead on this edition of Washington Watch. On Saturday, the Syrian government announced that it had reached a ceasefire agreement with the Druze and Bedouin groups whose deadly clashes in the southern province of Suwaida last week drew Israeli intervention. Calm was reported in Suwaida yesterday after fighting continued Saturday despite that ceasefire announcement. Now, some of the Trump administration have expressed frustration with Israel's intervention. Joining me now to discuss this is freelance war correspondent Chuck Holton, who has been tracking the situation there in the Middle East. And he joins us live from Israel. Chuck, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Tony. So, Chuck, first, give us bring us up to speed on what unfolded over the weekend.
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So more information is coming out of Sueda as we speak. Just hour by hour, we're getting more videos and death tolls. It's now over 2,000 people who were murdered in that killing spree of the Druze and some Christians. As a matter of fact, there was a pastor who had converted from the Druze faith to Christianity and then started an evangelical church in Sueda, and the Druze had no problem with that. They don't mind. But he and his entire family, his parents, his wife, his children, his brothers and sisters and their children were all murdered in the church, more than 20 people all in just one go. And so obviously this is more than just a problem for this small ethno-religious sect that nobody's heard of until the day before yesterday. But go ahead.
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Well, give us what's behind this. What caused this latest outbreak of violence there?
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A lot of people that I've been talking to say they believe it was planned and they used a clash, kind of a small local thing that happened between some Bedouin and some Druze to sort of kick the thing off. But then you watched it just grow very quickly as the THE SYRIAN TRIBAL COUNCIL, WHICH IS A NATIONWIDE ORGANIZATION, CALLED FOR A GENERAL MOBILIZATION TO SUPPORT THE BEDOUIN, WHICH ARE ISIS-AFFILIATED, AGAINST THE DRUZE. AND SO YOU SAW THOUSANDS OF FIGHTERS GETTING ON TRUCKS AND expunge the Druze from that whole region. And that's exactly what they said they planned to do. And incidentally, some of those that were captured later said that they also had planned to attack Israel after they finished with the Druze.
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So, Chuck, what's the connection then with the new Syrian interim government? Any connection there?
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Well, it is, yes. The Syrian interim government is doing its best to put a progressive forward face on the new regime. But Ahmed al-Sharah, everybody knows, was actually arrested and spent six years in prison. by the United States in Iraq for being al-Qaeda. And as everybody, I was just up in Majd al-Sham, which is an Israeli Druze village in the north of Israel, and everybody up there says, look, you can put a suit on a terrorist and he's still a terrorist. And what I'm hearing, I was just in Syria not long ago, and what I'm hearing from the people who are in areas that are under regime control is that the face that he's giving to the Western world does not fit with the actions on the ground in the areas that he's over. So they are instituting Sharia law. Women have to sit in the back of the bus. They're segregating people. And there is a lot of extrajudicial killing. Now, some of that might have to do with the fact that there are a couple of hundred militias who are all sort of just loosely related. And in fact, al-Sharad doesn't have that much control over any of them. And so the United States is trying to get them to just give this a chance. And that's one of the reasons why they expressed frustration with Israel. But is the Israeli ruse? We're talking one hundred and fifty thousand or so that live in Israel. are telling the Israeli government, look, we vote. And if you don't go help our brothers in Syria, we are going to do it. And several times now, they have broken through the fence into Syria and rushed in, I mean, like over 1,000 of them to try to help their brothers over in Syria. So Israel is finding itself, like, pressured from both sides. It's just a little ironic that the United Nations is saying that Israel needs to protect Syria's national sovereignty. When Syria is a failed state, they don't control all of their land at all. And there's a literal attempted genocide going on of the Druze. And Israel is the only country that's going to their aid. And they're not just doing it militarily. They're flying supplies and humanitarian aid in to Sueda as well. So they're the only ones that are helping.
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So this is not the first outbreak we've seen under the new interim government. Shortly after they took over, we saw the Alawites being targeted. So there is a I would from my perspective and Chuck, you know better. You're there on the ground, but it looks like there's a pattern.
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Well, and again, everybody that's in there, that's living under their control, says what you're looking at is ISIS 2.0. They tried to declare a caliphate and create a new country, and that didn't go well for them. They had a lot of pushback from even Muslim countries on that. Now what they're trying to do is take over Syria and just declare themselves to be the new government. Everybody's referring to Ahmed al-Sharra as the new president of Syria. But nobody voted for him. He's just self-declared and has no intention of holding elections anytime soon.
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Well, as you made reference to, there has been some in the Trump administration complaining about the aggressiveness of Israel, and Benjamin Netanyahu in particular, as it pertains to Syria bombing near the presidential palace and military command centers. But I want to, and part of it is they said, well, this is to help him domestically from a political standpoint. And you made reference to the fact there's 150,000 Druze there in Israel and they vote. Just for a comparison purposes, it's not much different than Christians here in the United States advocating for our government to go to the aid of Christians elsewhere who are being targeted and persecuted.
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That's correct. And the difference is the Americans in the United States that would like that to happen are not saying if you don't, we will do it. And hundreds of thousands of us will go and fight in another country. So that would complicate things for sure. But again, look, I don't think that there's a real downside for Israel in this. Even though it's causing a little friction with the United States and it certainly is getting the world up in arms against Israel, but that's nothing new. It strategically makes sense. It weakens the al-Sharah government. Israel, you bet, you've got to understand that Israel's Mossad has intelligence on al-Sharah that we're not all privy to. So the strikes that they're making to sort of take them down a notch can only help Israel in the long run. It also creates the opening for Israel to get a lot more intelligence gathering capability inside the country while everything is chaotic.
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Yeah, and I don't want to go down this path, but it also, I think, keeps Turkey at bay since they seem to have a pretty strong connection with the new president there. Speaking of tensions, we just have about two and a half minutes left, Chuck Holten. But the tension between the United States and Israel, I mean, last week or week before last, I was at a reception with the prime minister when he was here in the United States. I mean, it couldn't have been stronger. This has opened the door to some criticism. We saw and you've been tracking this story. Ambassador Mike Huckabee going to a Palestinian village. But you've talked about how there was some fake news there that may have drawn U.S. Well, maybe maybe they just didn't understand completely what was happening. Talk about that situation.
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That's right. This is the village of Taipei. It's one of the oldest Christian villages and one of the only Christian villages in the Judea and Samaria area. And there was a story that came out and there was some grainy video that showed Israeli citizens who live legally in Samaria who were running around in the cemetery in front of the church and inside the church. and it showed some smoke and flames kind of down below the church and it made the they they made the claim that jewish illegal settlers had come in and burned the church and the cemetery uh this this ancient church well we just sent one of our people out there today to that church and he talked to the bishop that runs that church the church is not destroyed there was no fire in the church there was no fire in the cemetery the videos that you saw of the settlers running around was them trying to put out a fire that had been started by a palestinian uh on the land that belonged to an israeli farmer out there so he was burning uh farmers crops and the Wind blew it out of control, and it was blowing it up toward the church, and these guys were putting it out. So, of course, as soon as the word came out, and a lot of it's been pushed by the bishop of this church. He told our guy today that he's Palestinian first and Christian second. So, apparently, he hasn't been reading his Bible a whole lot, but... THAT TELLS YOU PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE MOTIVATION BEHIND WHY HE WOULD PUT OUT A STORY THAT IS OBVIOUSLY FALSE BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO CAN GO SEE THAT CHURCH NOW AND IT'S NOT BURNED AND ALL OF THAT. SO THIS IS ONE THING THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THIS INFORMATION WAR THAT IS BEING WAGED AGAINST ISRAEL, AND IT'S NEVER GOING TO STOP, BUT I THINK THAT As Christians, we need to think critically about that and push back against that.
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And be very discerning. Be very discerning. Fake news knows no boundaries. Chuck Holton, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us and stay safe. Folks, don't go away. We're back with more after this.
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Tony, it's good to be back with you. And thanks for highlighting the challenges and the dangers we have in our country and our world today.
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Well, what a difference an election makes. Instead of having an administration working behind the scenes to surrender sovereignty, we now have an administration working to protect national sovereignty and saying no to the World Health Organization.
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What a unique thought that we would not be a globalist country, but rather stand firmly on the fact that American ought to be leading the world and doing it independently, respecting our sovereignty, our founding principles, our people and our freedoms. And we don't do that by joining with any other entity and letting them chart the course.
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I mean, as the chairman of the House Education Committee, you know so well the devastating effect that bad policies have had on our children and hardworking Americans. I mean, and that's just a kind of a micro of the macro. When you look at the United Nations and the World Health Organization, why would anyone? Want to put that type of power into the hands of an unaccountable, unelected international organization that could literally take our freedoms away at the next declared international health crisis.
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Well, absolutely. And I think it comes, Tony, you know, sitting here dealing every day of my life with the education issues. realizing that the U.S. Department of Education, which thankfully our president wants to abolish, and the Secretary of Education wants the same thing, and I want the same thing, and we know that Congress is the only one that can do that, but we can do some significant reforms, downplaying, right-sizing, depowering in the process, but our citizens for too long have been, especially since 1980 when the Department of Education was formed and put in place, we've been taught a different thing about our country. We've been taught that there are bad things about our country, that we've never learned from our mistakes, and that the world needs to help us along the way. And so WHO, World Health Organization, is one of those. And yet we saw during COVID the WHO, which was inextricably tied to China, serve us well, in fact, put us in worse state. And I think our nation suffered as a result of that. And certainly we weren't taken care of medically and health-wise during that process as well. And you would think we would learn. But there are still people who have been brainwashed to think that someone else has to watch out for America doing the wrong things for its people. Right. As to the people themselves.
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I mean, the closer government gets to the people, the better it is. The further removed it is, the less accountable and the more dangerous it becomes. One final question on the WHO topic, Congressman, is. I know this puts an end to it for now, but do you think they'll stop? I mean I've never seen the United Nations take no for an answer.
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No, they won't until we stop the funding, until we separate ourselves from them in a very solid fashion. And I think also potentially putting legislation in place that would require any change in that to their ownership. Why? It must not happen unless Congress says so clearly. So I think those are things we ought to consider.
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Chairman, I want to I want to go down a lane here that's clearly down the education front. This coming out end of last week, you know, we we knew something was wrong. We could smell a rat. Looking back in the Biden administration, when the attorney general, Merrick Garland, went after parents who showed up at school board meetings to raise issues about COVID policies, to raise issues about bathroom policies. Now, new evidence as a result of America First Legal going after documentation, finding that they were looking for a hook This is the DOJ, the Attorney General, looking for a federal hook to criminally charge these parents who were showing up at these public hearings. This is outrageous.
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outrageous, and it makes me even more grateful that Mitch McConnell had the insight and the ability to stop Merrick Garland from ever getting on the U.S. Supreme Court, at least for now. But they just will not accept the fact that this is not what America wants. I think 77 million people said that at the last election. But I've often said, ad nauseum to some of my colleagues on the Education Committee, that the three things we need to get right will make our education system work and our workforce work. If we get it right for the student, the parent and the teacher, we will succeed. The parent has to be there to central focus. The parents are the ones that brought these children into the world. The parents are the ones that give the opportunity for schools to be in place and have a purpose. And if we make sure that they're center focus, then teachers, I think, will have not only an understanding where they sit in supplementing the parents' education responsibility, but also coming under that authority. So to think that they would ever be considered as domestic terrorists, but just because they stand up to speak for the best impact on their kids' lives is ridiculous, it's horrific, and it's anti-American. So we need to push back on that and make sure that this doesn't happen to out Merrick Garland and his ilk from moving that direction along with the radical teachers union leadership.
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That's such a well-balanced statement where you want to put the child, the parent, and the teacher. And instead of making policy to reach the lowest common denominator, we understand the role of the parent and we challenge them to fill that role. Chairman, we're out of time. Always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today. Folks, stick with us. We're back with more after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Just one final note on that previous story about Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice. The actual full-time or career service members of the Department of Justice pushed back, showing how radical Merrick Garland and the Biden political appointees were. Right. Over the weekend, I had a conversation with the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton. He joined me for this week on Capitol Hill. We discussed what's been unfolding in the Middle East. Among the topics we discussed was Iran, the end of August deadline that was agreed upon by the U.S., France, Germany and the U.K. And I wanted to share a part of that conversation with you right now. Here's how that conversation started. Let's talk Iran. According to recent reports, Iran has been given the end of August as a deadline to agree to a nuclear deal with the United States and our allies. However, Iranian officials have conditioned, they have preconditions that they've set for these nuclear talks with the U.S. based upon no future military attacks by the U.S. First, are they in a position to make such a demand? And second, what should be the response of the Trump administration?
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Well, they're really not in a position to demand much of anything. Thanks to Israel, their air defenses are essentially completely flattened. They've obviously suffered significant damage to both the nuclear program and their ballistic missile program. And I think they've shown their real sentiments in the past week or 10 days by effectively making it impossible for international inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency to stay in Iran. The regime said, we can't guarantee your safety. And the IAEA took the hint and said they were going to withdraw their personnel. I think what this reflects is that the Ayatollahs still want nuclear weapons. And the question is whether they can bluff us out of surveillance over their nuclear sites to make sure that they can't rebuild from the damage that's been done to them. This regime has never modified its radical theology that came into power back in 1979. It's still run by that same ideology, which is why it's a threat to the U.S., to Israel, to Arab governments in the region.
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So what is the U.S. threatening if the Iranian regime fails to pursue or fails to engage in these talks and cease their pursuit of a nuclear weapon?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well because the 2015 Iran nuclear deal is now coming to an end it was basically a 10 year deal in most significant respects. There's a provision in there that allows the U.N. Security Council to reimpose international sanctions that the 2015 deal lifted. Now of course the U.S. twice now in Trump administration's has reimposed those sanctions but the Europeans have not. So this is a threat really from the Europeans that if the Iranians don't get serious they will reimpose sanctions, which I think would be an entirely good thing, because that would show even more pressure, more unity among Western nations against Iran's effort to get nuclear weapons. But I don't think it will dissuade the Iranians. I think the benefit to the United States is to finally bring the Europeans over to a stronger position against this very threatening regime in Tehran.
SPEAKER 12 :
So Ambassador Bolton, that brings in kind of another component of this conversation. The U.S. bombing of Iran's nuclear facilities was a clear display of U.S. military strength and power. While not as immediate in its effect, the use of economic tradecraft, sanctions and tariffs are being used quite extensively by the Trump administration. Is that by design and is the impact of that as strong as military action?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well it's not as strong as it could be. Economic sanctions and tariffs and a variety of other things the U.S. could do are a form of warfare economic warfare not kinetic warfare. But I have to say our record of enforcing sanctions across many administrations for decades now has not been as effective as it could be. I think if we were to have stricter enforcement, the sanctions would bite harder and would therefore be more effective. And the whole point of using economic measures first is to try and avoid having to go to military action. So stronger sanctions, better enforced, I think are very much in America's interest. And we ought to be looking at how to how to use the sanctions more effectively than we have.
SPEAKER 12 :
So could this be, you know, kind of tying our domestic issues that we oftentimes think are just domestic. For instance, the president having this dispute with the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Chairman Powell. Is the U.S. interest rates and the policy pursued by the Fed, does that affect the president's ability to use this economic tradecraft when it comes to foreign policy?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it certainly can. Let's take the tariffs as an example. I think most economists would say there's going to be a negative economic effect on the U.S. because of the tariffs. And ironically, I think the White House understands that, which is why they've been putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to reduce interest rates, to offset a negative effect on the economy by lowering the rates to promote more opportunities for economic growth. And And that's a view that's shared by economists who think that the Fed ought to act early to prevent a larger negative impact that might occur as these tariffs finally take hold in the second half of this year. Tariffs are really just as much an international as they are a domestic issue, as your question really tries to probe on this interest rate issue.
SPEAKER 12 :
30 seconds left. Ambassador, is there a cohesive policy being pursued by the Trump administration on this front?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I wish it were more cohesive. The world is a complicated place. A lot happens at the same time. And you have to try and maximize your effectiveness really across the board. We've not with sanctions, for example, on Russia in the case of Ukraine. Maybe that's about to change. I certainly hope so.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Ambassador John Bolton, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks again for having me.
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All right, don't go anywhere. After the break, I'll share the latest on the situation with bivocational pastor Luke Ash, who was fired from the East Baton Rouge Parish Library for refusing to use so-called preferred pronouns. We'll talk with one of the pastors who's leading the effort in his defense. So don't go away.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us today. You can check out the website, tonyperkins.com. Better yet, get the Stand Firm app. As I mentioned earlier, it is your resource. It has our daily devotional, Stand on the Word. It has news and commentary from a biblical perspective, the Washington Stand, and of course, it has Washington Watch and other resources. Well, our word for today comes from Luke chapter 22. Now the feast of unleavened bread drew near, which is called Passover. And the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might kill him, for they feared the people. Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve. So he went his way, conferred with the chief priests and captains how he might betray him to them. And they were glad and agreed to give him money. judas didn't suddenly fall into satan's grip his betrayal was the tragic culmination of earlier choices he had long been compromising pilfering from the disciples money bag indulging in sin while keeping up appearances that willful sin dulled his conscience and opened the door for satan to take control eventually his heart grew so hardened that he could betray the son of god with a kiss This is why James warns us, therefore submit to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you. The downward spiral of sin always begins with small, unchecked steps. Resist early, repent quickly, and submit fully. For more on our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. All right, last week I had on this program Pastor Luke Ash, a bivocational pastor who was fired from his job at the East Baton Rouge Parish Library for refusing to use preferred pronouns. Now, his story had not received any attention until we invited him to come on the program, but now it's gotten a lot of attention. His story has caught the attention of the press, Governor Jeff Landry in Louisiana, and the head of the U.S. Justice Department Civil Rights Division, Harmeet Dhillon. Well, last Thursday, a group of pastors took the case of Pastor Ash to the East Baton Rouge Parish Library Board. And here with me in studio to share the response they received is the pastor who led the charge, Dr. Lewis Rickerson. He is the lead pastor of Woodlawn Baptist Church in St. George, Louisiana, which is a community inside of East Baton Rouge Parish. Pastor Lewis, welcome to Washington Watch. Thank you, Tony. Glad to be here. So let's first start. You became aware of this. You authored, drafted a letter that several dozen pastors have signed on to. Let me just start with this. Why did you get involved in this? What prompted you to say, hey, wait a minute, something's not right here?
SPEAKER 03 :
Two things, brother. One, one of the pastors that serves with Luke at his church is a young man that grew up in my church and discipled in the life of our church. And he sent me a message and said this was taking place and asked me just to be praying for Pastor Luke. I reached out to Pastor Luke and said, brother, praying for you, anything we can do to help you, please let us know. We're here to stand with you. And then that was Tuesday and Wednesday. And then, of course, Thursday, the firing. And I said, brother, you know, we're here with you. We're going to stand with you. I'll do whatever I can. I just started making contacts regularly. through various people that I know to say, hey, this is taking place. Secondly, brother, I think it's the heart of who we are as Baptists. Baptists from the very beginning have always had a passion. At the end of the day, it was John Leland, a Virginia Baptist, who helped shape the First Amendment to the Constitution. So in some ways, it's just in my blood. It's who we are as Baptists.
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Were you surprised? I mean, this is Baton Rouge. It's not a liberal city. I mean, it's not, you know, every big city has its issues. But I would certainly say it's a right of center community that in this library that someone was a pastor, a bivocational pastor, fired for not using preferred pronouns.
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Absolutely, totally shocked. When he first reached out to us, told us that he was going to be meeting on Wednesday with his boss, I quite honestly, of course, prayed for him, but just assumed that, okay, he will go into that meeting and they're going to push back against him a little bit. He'll push back against them. It'll be resolved. It'll be resolved. You just be nice. Luke, just make sure you're being kind and gracious and no problem. It'll be resolved.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, I had Pastor Luke on the program. We had him at a pastor's breakfast we had last Thursday, which prompted other pastors to sign the letter that you drafted. Luke is not one of these guys that's in your face. I mean, he's very meek and mild. He's the kind of guy that would not push the issue. But I truly believe it comes out of a place of conviction.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. Tony, he's got to be one of the most kind, gracious, humble men you will ever meet. Just talk to him for five seconds and you quickly figure out his disposition is that.
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Is this a cultural red line?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. I think it's a cultural red line, and I want to say that we in East Baton Rouge Parish and the Christian community in East Baton Rouge Parish bear the primary responsibility in pushing back against this initiative. I think it's a wonderful opportunity for us as the church to speak to it and to speak to it in a way that is kind and gracious yet firm. Jesus teaches us, right, be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. We can take convictional stands and do so kindly and graciously.
SPEAKER 12 :
And folks, you can weigh in on this as well. We've got a petition that you can sign that will be delivered to the executive director of the library board. Her name is Katrina Stokes. And just text the word pastor. That's pastor to 67742. That's pastor to 67742. And I'll send you a link and you can add your name to this petition that will be delivered. We were told back when this whole effort, and I never believed it, but I'm able to say what we were told, we were told that this redefinition of marriage was a live and let live. We just want to be able to, you know, marry the one we love. I mean, that was the phrase that they actually used. And this was not going to harm you. I remember in debates, many debates, they don't do too many debates on these things anymore because the left doesn't want to debate because their lives have been exposed. And this is one of them, that live and let live, that our same-sex marriage is not going to affect you when, in fact, we have seen how it's led to a redefinition of gender, women's sports issues, public restrooms and changing rooms. pronoun usage to where Christians now are being targeted and fired for not playing along with their make-believe.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tony, I completely agree with you. This goes back to 2015 and the Obergefell decision, but in some ways I think it even goes back further than that. When the church back in the 50s and 60s gave way to no-fault divorce, in my mind it really begins there. And we continue to capitulate on the conversation with marriage. They redefine marriage. And we both know that that was never the sole intention. It's much larger. Because if you can eradicate a concept of male and female, then you really eradicate a creation principle. Genesis says God made them in the beginning. The image of God is stamped upon this maleness and this femaleness. So...
SPEAKER 12 :
the further we move away from the revealed truth of God, which is also revealed in nature, the further we move away from that, the more complicated life is going to become and the more really pitfalls as a society. So what we have now is we have this, I'm just gonna put myself into the position of the library now, that they have to accommodate competing positions. One of religious freedom, that someone does not acknowledge this because it's contrary to their religion and they're not going to be forced to use false words. But they want to accommodate someone who believes they're a different gender. And so if you believe all things, you have this chaos and this confusion, and there is no resolution unless you return to the truth.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the resolution for them, I think, is the eradication of Christians from the public sphere. So that's ultimately what they're going for.
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Which is what happened here in the case of Luke. So the teaching moment here is to let Christians understand. We're not coming from a place of anger, a place of anxiety. Be anxious for nothing but prayer and supplication. With thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God. But a full understanding of what the end will lead to if Christians are silent and withdraw from the public space.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, and another opportunity to clearly articulate the truths of God's Word. And one of the things I appreciate about Pastor Luke from the very beginning was that was his heart. He was really unsure about some of these political conversations, but in his text messages to me and in his verbal conversations with me, he was always bringing it back to the gospel. We have an opportunity to make Christ known and make much of Christ and to glorify God, and I appreciate that.
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So the church is not looking for a cultural fight, but... But it is. I mean, how else would you describe it other than it has come to us? I mean, here you have a bivocational pastor who he told me he used when he lived in Indiana, driving a truck, used to listen to this program as he was driving the truck, got a church here as a bivocational, wanted to to to really do a career at the library. He saw this as a career and he he loved the opportunity to to mix with unbelievers and to be able to share the gospel. But when you're forced to play along with a lie, then it becomes problematic.
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And remember what he said, I can't lie. You can't lie. He said, I can't lie. And not only that, I think it also strikes at the heart of who Luke is, an opportunity to serve. He's a servant. He's serving a church at the library. What are you doing? You're serving people who walk in. And I think that's the heart of who he is.
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So, Pastor Lewis, let's talk about, you know, there are many. In fact, after Luke was on, I got some emails, people saying, well, you know what? You know, Jesus, you know, he had the woman at the well and he talked to her. And so, you know, what's the big deal? I said, well, first off, that's a great example. The woman at the well, Jesus didn't back away from the truth. He said, go get your husband. She goes, I don't have one. And he said, I know, you've had five, and the one you're living with now is not your husband. He didn't encourage her to continue that. No, but he didn't ignore it. Right. And the result, by confronting it in a loving way, conversationally, led to her being convicted and converted. Absolutely. And so speaking the truth is important. Now, the demeanor in which we speak, as Paul says, speak the truth in love. We're to build one another up. We're to reach the others, the lost, with the truth. How would you instruct Christians in this day and age to navigate this increasingly difficult environment? Are they to be silent? Are they to go into caves? I mean, are we to retreat? What are we to do?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first, Tony, I think we've got to operate with a conviction of the truthfulness of God's word. Be firm in your conviction that it's the word of God, right? Paul wrote the gospel is the power of God unto salvation. Let me just stop you right there.
SPEAKER 12 :
That is so important, but that... requires we know the word of God.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I agree with that.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that's a problem we have in many of our churches is that we are not teaching the word of God.
SPEAKER 03 :
I completely agree with you, brother.
SPEAKER 12 :
Precept by precept.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 12 :
Line upon line.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. That's what we need. So you've got to start with a conviction of the truthfulness of God's word and understand that that is our soul. and only authority for speaking into these situations.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's not our opinion. And that's the other thing we've got to get away from is that we're not defending our opinion. We're expressing the truth of God's word. What the God of creation has said.
SPEAKER 03 :
So that should give us confidence, shouldn't it? Absolutely. That gives us confidence. And then flowing from that, I think then we're compelled to speak the truth of God's word. Paul, he makes his way to Rome. He's going to stand before King Agrippa. And Paul's source of authority for what he's going to say is the word of God. And we've got to have confidence in that and then be willing to step out and clearly articulate that in a kind, gracious, yet firm way. And that was part of my desire at the library the other day.
SPEAKER 12 :
I want to ask you about that because they wouldn't let you talk. It was on the budget. There was a public comment meeting section on the budget. I thought you brought up a very valid point that where we put our money shows our priorities. And so you tried to tie this to the budget. They tried to shut you down. You continue to express your concern. Did they ever offer an opportunity to have a conversation with you about this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely not. We emailed the library as I said in my statement. We've heard absolutely nothing from them other than the response that they gave us Thursday at the board meeting. But I went into that conversation with the conviction I was gonna finish my statement, and regardless of how they responded, I would not respond in like manner. And I drew that inspiration and that encouragement from the text of scripture to do exactly those things. State the truth of God's word, and do so kindly, and then not be intimidated by the left. I think sometimes as Christians we can be too intimidated.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'll be very candid. I mean, most of us don't like conflict. That's true. I mean, people don't believe this, but I don't like conflict.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
Who does? I think that's why the Lord brought me into the political realm is because I really don't like conflict. When I was a police officer, I was able to de-escalate almost any situation because I didn't like the conflict. But what compels me Pastor Lewis, is that I have a greater conviction of the truth than I have a desire to avoid conflict. And I think that's where we have to be as the church. Folks, let me again give you that petition. Text the word pastor to 67742, pastor to 67742. And let me ask you to share this with your friends. I really want a message to go to the East Baton Rouge Parish Library. And not only to them, this is a national issue. And if it hasn't cropped up in your community, it will. And so you need to weigh in and make this an issue now. Pastor Lewis, you just have a little less than a minute left. Is this issue going to go away?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's not going to go away for me until... The two things we demanded are met, reinstate Pastor Ash and change your policy. And I will not be quiet and I will not leave my church to be quiet or this community to be quiet until those two demands are met.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I don't think those are unreasonable. No, they're not. I mean, it's the DEI policies that clearly show that they're not for diversity, equity and inclusion when they fire someone who doesn't want to play along with their games. And I think the country's a lot wiser to this. This is a teachable moment, and I'm grateful for your stepping forward and helping to lead. All right, folks, I do want to encourage you to weigh in on this. As I said, it's not going to stay isolated to one community. This is this DEI policy that's hidden in policy manuals all across the country. Text PASTOR to 67742. All right. Thanks so much for joining us. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do and you've prayed, prepared and taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In this riveting episode, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, unveils documents suggesting a treasonous conspiracy during the Obama administration aimed against President Trump's 2016 election victory. The discussion extends to the implications of these findings, potential legal consequences, and the reactions from both critics and supporters. Join as we navigate the complexities surrounding intelligence manipulation and the looming sense of justice delayed.
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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard reveals new evidence of treasonous conspiracy.
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Welcome to Sekulow. We're back on this Monday. Will Haynes is joining me, Mike Pompeo a little bit later. And look, it's the ACLJ's 35 years of Justice Drive. And when you talk about 35 years, let's just go back the last few years. In the last few years, who was on this show multiple times a week? Who made a huge impact in our show, made a huge impact in the world of Sekulow? That's right, our friend, now Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. Of course we cannot have people like Tulsi on this team without your support during those times. Now she's gone on, she graduated, and moved her way up to, I don't know, Director of National Intelligence. And now, if you don't think that this doesn't scream of work that we have done in the past, man, she is just doing a great job. And, well, let's break down this new evidence. She unveiled this document pretty exhaustive. I was listening to John Solomon's Just the News article, was reading, and again, at some point, you're like... Just the news, man. It's so long, but it's so informative. There's so much good information here, but a lot of people didn't see this over the weekend. They probably were distracted. They were watching something else. It was other news. Maybe they were watching the UFC fight. They didn't see that this was happening.
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That's right, because on Friday afternoon, kind of late, the director of national intelligence put out a release, a memo, and a bunch of documents that they've declassified, as well as she went on Fox News' Sean Hannity. Hey, school. To talk about this. But here's the headline of the press release. New evidence of Obama administration conspiracy to subvert President Trump's 2016 victory in presidency. And it goes on to talk about and this is on the heels of us talking about the FBI looking into a grand conspiracy story. A scheme that they are looking into with Brennan and Comey and others. And we're finding out now that the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has referred this new evidence to the DOJ. And I want to read this quote from Tulsi Gabbard. We have sound from her later, but this is in the press release they put out. Okay. It says, the issue I'm raising is not a partisan issue. It is one that concerns every American. The information we are releasing today clearly shows there was a treasonous conspiracy in 2016 committed by officials at the highest levels of our government. Their goal was to subvert the will of the American people and enact what was essentially a years-long coup with the objective of trying to usurp the president from fulfilling the mandate bestowed upon him by the American people. We're going to get into who those people at the highest level are, what this means. There will be some familiar names on that list. That's right. We'll get into all that in the next segment. So stay tuned. You're not going to want to miss this. This is big news.
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The implications of this are frankly nothing short of historic. Over 100 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office after President Trump had already gotten elected. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an issue that is so serious it should concern every single American because it has to do with the integrity of our Democratic Republic. What we saw occur here as the documents we released detailed was that we had a sitting president of the United States and his cabinet and leadership team, quite frankly, who were not happy with the fact that that President Trump had won the election, that the American people had chosen Donald J. Trump to be the next president commander in chief of the United States. And so they decided that they would do everything possible to try to undermine his ability to do what voters tasked President Trump to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Of course, I want to clarify that was not on the Sean Hannity broadcast. You have seen it was on Fox News the next day. So just wanted to make sure that's the case. But we'll kind of laying out this pretty big claim like you can't just make this claim. If so, we've had some issues with the FBI and with some of the other departments where they've thrown around things over the last few weeks. You know, a lot of times where they said, you know, there's no smoke. Nothing's happening here. Tulsi comes out and says, look, we got evidence. Over 100 documents released. The detail provide evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President Obama. Not even by President Obama's team. Not even the Obama administration. Again, these are her words. The director of national intelligence words. Not ours.
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That's right. And once again, like all of us that lived through that knew that there was something nefarious that happened, the weaponization of government. But now you're hearing from the current director of national intelligence using words like treasonous conspiracy. that's a very strong phraseology something i mean we stay away from even like normally implicating treason because of what a high bar that is when we talk about the weaponization of government there could be other crimes committed but like treason is one that you almost stay away from because of how rarely it's invoked uh i believe i looked up it's only been charged against someone less than 40 times in our history They have obviously secured convictions in some of those, a lot fewer than 40. But you think of even back to Benedict Arnold, which is the original kind of treason against America, which happened during the Revolutionary War. But what we're seeing here and the way she's laid this out is that she's talking about not just the politicization of intelligence. She's calling it the manufacturing of intelligence. And she says there's more coming this week. This was just the first tranche that they're releasing declassified. Obviously, there's a declassification process. But she really in this first memo and this first tranche of emails and documents that have been released, we're seeing that the intelligence community, the entire election cycle was in lockstep. that one, Russia didn't have the ability to actually hack our system and change votes and manipulate vote tallies and change an election that way, as well as the consensus was, while their online activity was meant to sow kind of confusion in the United States, make the United States look weaker, they didn't have a favored candidate. Where that all changed was after President Trump was elected. And we remember things like Peter Strzok and Lisa Page talking about the insurance policy. Talking about it again. What happened? The president of the United States called a principal's committee meeting on December 9th of 2016.
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That's in these documents. In these documents.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm looking at a document right now that is a summary of the conclusions for the principal's committee meeting on the sensitive topic. They didn't even name it in their headline. And then there were some like, uh-oh emails that came out. Right, we'll get to that as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Some of my favorite ones, which ones have come out recently.
SPEAKER 07 :
that are like if they're going to go down this path here are the people though that were in this principals meeting Susan Rice heard of her interestingly there was no representative present from the office of the vice president That would have been Joe Biden's office for this meeting.
SPEAKER 08 :
So maybe there was a little bit of intelligence there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let's keep him out of it. We had John Kerry, Victoria Nuland. We had someone from the Department of Defense, Brian McKeon. We had the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch. We had the Department of Homeland Security, Jay Johnson, Chief of Staff, Dennis McDonough, DNI, James Clapper, FBI, Andrew McCabe, CIA, John Brennan, as well as Avril Haines, who was the Director of National Intelligence under, President Joe Biden, Lisa Monaco and Ben Rhodes. All of these people were in this meeting. And what Tulsi Gabbard is telling us is that that is where it changed, where they said, no, we now need it to be that Russia. chose Donald Trump to win and affected the election there was this collusion narrative and what did they use something that hadn't been used in all the intelligence products thus far because it wasn't credible the Steele dossier and that's directed by the president of the United States to effectively get to this outcome so we can undermine Trump.
SPEAKER 08 :
I actually want to hear more from Tulsi Gabbard we're going to bite 11 because I think this is important to hear as much from her as possible because you're hearing our commentary that's great but this is coming from again not just our former colleague It is coming from the current sitting Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.
SPEAKER 01 :
This document was then used as the foundation for everything that came next. It was essentially a years-long coup that was launched against President Trump before he even had the opportunity to take his oath of office and be sworn in as President of the United States. As you know, there was a Mueller investigation that went on for years, cost taxpayers nearly $40 million. There were two congressional impeachments. President Trump and almost every member of his family were smeared and attacked, faced lawsuits, depositions. High-level officials were investigated. Some were arrested and put in jail. The list goes on and on about the ramifications of this, but foundational to it all was the fact that we had in President Obama and his leadership team, people who did not want to accept the will of the American people in electing Donald Trump in 2016, and therefore cooked up this treasonous conspiracy to, again, try to effectively, and they did effectively, launch a years-long coup against the sitting president of the United States.
SPEAKER 08 :
And let's give a bit more background, by the way. If you're just joining us or you're brand new to not only this show, tulsi gabbard was no conservative was no republican if you will she ran to be the democrat nominee was in 2020 against president trump right but you know what they went after her and your eyes get open to what really this machine looks like and all of a sudden things started changing and it was a good move by president trump to bring in people who may even been formerly his opposition tulsi gabbard at the time i know people are fighting with now but the elon musk is uh the rfk juniors these are people i mean you're talking about rfk and tulsi both people who actively ran against president trump we went as press to an rfk event where they had the good the bad and the ugly and one of those uh you can imagine which one was they were labeling president trump okay but he thinks above that they go beyond that they find people who are great for their jobs and here it is because these people can think beyond politics i want to take a phone call let's go to moose who's calling in new york talk to me moose
SPEAKER 11 :
Go ahead. Hey, what's going on, guys? It's insane that everything's coming out finally. And everything that we've been saying for years and years about undermining President Trump is coming to light. Every projection that they had is a confession of theirs. And it's good that Tulsi Gabbard's breaking the daylight.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, thank you, Moose, for calling. Look, I think there's even things that I personally would have laughed off even as conspiracy theories just a few years ago. That now when these sort of documents come out, you go... They were probably right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, in reality, that's why even the term treasonous conspiracy is shocking to hear coming from the director of national intelligence. Now, there's a high bar to convict someone of treason, but that's in the Constitution. There's no statute of limitations. So when they've talked about this grand conspiracy, treasonous conspiracy is the term that Tulsi is choosing. I think there's a lot in that when it comes to that's outside the statute of limitations. If they can prove that this was treasonous to undermine the government of the United States and the next president of the United States, I think that there is something to be looked at there. But that's a high bar. And now that this is out there, the DOJ, if they bring a case, have got to prove that in court. And we can talk about some of the implications as well as her pointing a finger at President Obama, what that could mean.
SPEAKER 08 :
There's a lot more details in this all tranche of documents that came out. Some that the panic that was running through these emails. You're not going to want to miss that. We'll discuss that coming up again. Mike Pompeo is going to be joining us also at the end of the show. So we're going to be taking calls throughout. There's only one line open right now because it was the line we just took, 1-800-684-3110. If you want to get your voice heard on the air, it's a great time to do it. And of course, as I've said, 10 days left of our 35 years of Justice Drive. I'm going to encourage you right now, if you love the work of the ACLJ, if you love this show, this is the way all of it gets funded. Not by major sponsors, not even by exclusively major donors. It's by people like you who decide to give on an ongoing monthly basis or just a one-time gift. Do it now. Have your gifts doubled? We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are jammed right now. We'll get to you. You know, this half hour is flying by. And of course, we have a second half hour. If you don't get on your local terrestrial station, a lot of the terrestrial stations only carry a half hour. Find us broadcasting live each and every day at ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble. However you get your content, we're there. Of course, you can pick us up later on on the podcast feed archived. I know most of you watch us later on and not live. So we appreciate all of you, whether you're live or not. But when you're live, get to call in. And actually, I want to go to this very interesting call because I think a lot of people will be feeling this. And it's probably because they've been burned in the past. Let's go to Ronald, who's calling in South Carolina online for Ronald. You're up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks for taking my call. Yes. With all the evidence that is literally coming to light right now and even all this, this late in the game because of all that has gone on, the elections and such. Yet there are still the liberals who will not even accept this as the truth and may even consider this as a smear campaign by the party that's in place right now and by the conservatives and Republicans.
SPEAKER 08 :
Ronald, they most certainly will use that as spit. Now, you're at a different time here, though. The checks and balances are a little bit more in the conservative favor.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, but Will, people do think about this. And I think you immediately jumped to Comey. You immediately jumped to all these things where the evidence was damning, but they still couldn't get it done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And in reality, this needs to get done for the country. There needs to be some sort of accountability.
SPEAKER 08 :
There needs to be accountability.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because we are supposed to have faith in our elections. And what undermined that faith going back to 2016 is what we saw play out. And it's still fresh in my mind because we lived through it. Your dad was the private counsel to the president. And so we were living through this and seeing how bad it was in real time and understanding that when all this stems, when President Obama had this principles committee meeting and they changed the directive, from politicizing intelligence to manufacturing intelligence, as Tulsi Gabbard calls it. Something changed then and they went forward and James Comey, whose deputy Andrew McCabe was in this meeting, sent spies into the White House because he felt like he could. He leaked information when he was fired and rightly so. And when President Trump fired James Comey, what did it get him? An investigation by the deep state. How dare you fire James Comey? We're getting a special counsel to now investigate you. So that's what tied up almost the majority of President Trump's first term. The Department of Justice was hamstrung from the beginning because they started to leak things here, try to get someone like the Attorney General recused. That went on. You had a special counsel investigation that went on. Then they hit him at the end of the term with what? An impeachment. That's what the deep state was willing to do to take down the first term. And we still had a lot of great victories that we talk about all the time that came through during that first term. But now you're seeing what an administration that isn't afraid of what the deep state did those first four years. And they're not afraid to go look into those compartmentalized areas because you have to remember that too. These were top secret things that Tulsi is declassifying now. These are reports that never see the light of day. You may see some final work product, but what they're getting now, the deep state tried to keep hidden and they had cover for a long time during that first administration because they were investigating the president. So the people inside there weren't going to ruffle feathers. You weren't going to see the whistleblowers. But Tulsi says they're coming out now because they're releasing the goods. But we do need some sort of accountability from the people on that list if they were perpetrating a treasonous conspiracy against the government.
SPEAKER 08 :
The ball's in the court of the Trump administration now to actually make this happen. We will see. Again, I'm not unlike our caller that came in from Rumble. where it does feel like sometimes these threats feel, they don't feel empty. Because this comes with so much information. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, gotta give it to her. It drops hundreds of pages, I feel like, of content. Documents upon documents upon documents. You couldn't ask for anything more. But now, will there be follow-up when she does the referral? We'll see, again, as Will said, how deep it can get. I want to take a call. I want to go to Sue, who's an ACLJ champion. If you're a champion, that is someone that gives, by the way, on a monthly basis, automatically recurring. It's essentially like a membership. That's what we call them, ACLJ champions, because they are the champions for all of our causes. They create the baseline for this entire organization, whether it's our legal side or our media side. And one of the little perks I give... Again, it's not an official perk. It's just something that I like to do, which is if you're an ACLJ champion and you tell our phone screener, you get bumped to the front of the line. You get to be the first person, the calls that goes through because you are dedicated the most. And with that, I like to thank you with that. So Sue, on line five, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. And I'm from Nebraska, and you don't get many calls from the heartland.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what, Sue? It's because I see N-E, and it takes me a second. Logan thinks it's New England, which is not a state. I've done it before. I've said New England. So I'm going to be honest with you. Look, unlike a lot of politicians and things, I'm honest. So when I see N-E, my brain doesn't automatically say Nebraska, so I'll just go line five. But Sue, in Nebraska, you appreciate it, but maybe there's more Nebraskans calling in than you think. I just am unfamiliar with the abbreviation. Go ahead, Sue.
SPEAKER 03 :
Could be. One of the things that I am so impressed with is Tulsi remains so calm. There's not, you know, she doesn't. I know there's emotion there, but she doesn't emote a lot.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, I've been with her many times, and I have to say what you're seeing is what you're getting. I've seen her fired up, but it doesn't get that. That is the tone that you get from Tulsi Gabbard. She is serious. She's funny also as well, but is someone who is, like you said, unfazed. That did not hurt when you were a military expert. You've been in war, but go ahead, Sue.
SPEAKER 03 :
One of the things that really bothers me is the amount of money that has been wasted in trying to prevent any of this from coming out. But one of the things that came to mind a couple of days ago, I happened to hear before President Obama left office, he was being the first, you know, I guess he only was there once. But anyway, when when he left office, he was being interviewed and they said, would you like to stay in? as president longer. And he said, well, of course, that he felt he had more he could do and that some of the countries that have monarchies or other forms of government than what we have may have a right where you can stay in office longer. And so it doesn't necessarily surprise me having heard that. that he would try to do some things because I think he has pulled cords and strings and all kinds of things for a long time.
SPEAKER 08 :
So for sure, he has been deeply involved. And look, I feel like a lot of presidents have said similar things, probably for President Trump as well, because you get in there and look, it's not a lot of time. You have four years and two years of that four years you're running for reelection. I've actually been a pretty big proponent of saying one term, six years. One term, six years. Get all the work you can get done done. And don't have to worry about this re-election nonsense that takes up two of those years. You lose those two years. So I'm sure if you're President of the United States, whether you're President Obama, President Trump, whoever it is, George W. Bush, by the end of your second term, you're like, man, we're just now getting started. We're just now feeling it. But I do know what you mean. When you hear them saying they're jealous of monarchs and royalty, you're like, okay, well, this is not the country you live in, sir. But I do kind of understand the sentiment in a weird way. But that's just my thought. I really wish there would be serious discussion about changing the terms. It's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen, unfortunately. Things like that don't change. We have 30 minutes left in our broadcast. A whole other half hour. But right now, I want you to do me a favor. We got one minute left. Put up that QR code. Go to ACLJ.org. All donations are doubled. We got 10 days left in our 35 years of Justice Drive. And then we've got a big August coming as well that I look forward to sharing more about coming up. Again, second half hour. Join us on ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, Facebook. Be right back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sekulow coming up right now, and we are talking about our friend Tulsi Gabbard, also known as the Director of National Intelligence, who dropped really a bombshell of documents over the weekend, came out on Friday, really implicating people, including former President Barack Obama, in trying to, in what she calls, again, her words, not mine, treasonous behavior, to stop a Trump presidency. Now, Will, for those who are just joining us, some of you just listened to the back half, let's give a bit of a brief breakdown of this. We do have one line open, and Mike Pompeo is going to be joining us at the end of the show. So if you're on hold right now, stay on hold. I will get to your calls in this segment and next segment.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. On the Director of National Intelligence website, which normally people aren't going to odni.gov to check out what they're posting there, but she has posted both an unclassified memo, unclassified supporting documents, as well as a press release where she says... that the information we're releasing today clearly shows there was a treasonous conspiracy in 2016 committed by officials at the highest level of our government. Their goal was to subvert the will of the American people and enact what was essentially a years-long coup with the objective of trying to usurp the president from fulfilling the mandate bestowed upon him by the American people. She has referred this information to the Department of Justice. She says that we need prosecution and investigations to the fullest extent of the law. and bringing up the term treason that is something within the constitution itself which has no statute of limitations it's going to get very interesting as she says there is more information to come as well as whistleblowers that are now coming forward now that they've released this including logan something you referenced earlier that just the news pointed out where there was a member of the national intelligence council you got it here like i would even encourage you when you're done here go read their article because it is alarming, but also fascinating. So the National Intelligence Council is an organization under the director of national intelligence that bridges the gap between all the intelligence agencies and kind of can compile evidence and put together reports of intelligence outlooks. They were looking into the election claims. They were part of that team that was producing the reports leading up and that changed after the election, after that principals meeting with President Obama, where they had a new directive. And this is an email that was released by Tulsi Gabbard and that Justin News picked up on from someone who was in that on that National Intelligence Council that went ahead and was looking at this and got an email from another colleague that referenced the Steele dossier. And this was his response. Regarding the email below, I'm choosing my words carefully for your awareness because the premise of the message is concerning. As you know, I was a deputy on the NIO cyber team, also the de facto elections team from 2015 through this year. I have intermittently participated in the IC foreign influence and election security efforts from 2014 through this evening. I was asked by NIO Cyber Redacted to participate in the analytical scrub of non-compartmented version of what the 2017 ICA reference below. It included no dossier reference that I can recall. He goes on to say that I will cut to the chase, saving detail for in-person if you think needed. you do have at least one National Intelligence Council person who has been here through the whole period and worked on the paper. Me. If dossier material was used by the National Intelligence Council, unless it also was compartmented, my NIO intentionally... deceived and excluded me from things I was cleared for and had need to know throughout his entire tenure here. I prefer to think that isn't true, but if it was, we have a problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
A lot of you are just joining us right now. We'll keep breaking this down again. We have a problem. We're going to keep breaking it down. We're also going to take a ton of calls coming up in the next segment, and then we're going to end this show with an interview or spend some time with Secretary Mike Pompeo. So again, phone lines are open 1-800-684-3110. We've got one line open, but thousands of you are joining us right now who haven't been joining us for the other. We can see it on the YouTube numbers. So I encourage you, if you're brand new, we're about to cross 510,000 subscribers on YouTube. Go ahead and hit that subscribe button. Millions of you watch each and every week and know how much we appreciate it. Get the comments in, hit the thumbs up, all that business. With 10 days left in our drive, I encourage you to make that donation today. We'll be right back with your calls and comments coming right up. All right, it's time to hear from you, the supporters, the ACLJ members, the ACLJ champions, and those that decide to call in and to have their voice heard. When there's thousands of you watching online, I always appreciate the dozen or so that can make it on the air on any given day who call in and wait because some of you have been on hold for 34, 15, 26 minutes. We know that takes a big chunk of your day. So let's start with a call, and then, Will, I think we need to build some expectations, as you said, because I think when I see the comments coming in saying nothing will happen, nothing will happen, nothing will happen, it's not necessarily untrue that some things now can't happen because of rulings we were actually in favor of. Let's go ahead and go to Jan, who's calling, listening on the radio. Jan, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you for taking my call. I have a question and a comment about that question. My question is, don't they have someone recording or there are tapes being made, videos being made, everything they say and do on the phone in their meetings is inscribed, it's kept in documents, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm not so sure about everything. Yeah. Especially in meetings, there's a lot of things, especially, and then a lot of that falls under executive privilege and deliberative privilege. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Then how did they not know, in my estimation, it reveals their stupidity and arrogance that they don't figure out someday this is going to be known?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I mean, Jan, that's a whole another story. I think a lot of times they think, well, they're going to get themselves out of it. They're time wise. Maybe they're not thinking straight that this is some sort of act of treason, if you will. Again, I think people get a little obloviated when they're in the White House themselves. They don't really understand the rules and ramifications. A lot of these people are not experienced politicians. They start throwing out theories and ideas. And you got to be really careful with that as well as in any business. Now, that being said, Will, I think this is where it does come down to that comment you made during our break, which was, hey, we've got to be careful to build up expectations because presidential immunity is a real thing now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And Jan, also to the point, what Director Ratcliffe from the CIA put out about a week and a half ago, it shows that the principal of the CIA, John Brennan, He specifically took over this and was doing things that normally a director would not do in order to kind of shield what they were doing is what it appears was happening. And that was highly inappropriate, highly irregular, but all of that was trying to shield it. And remember, if their end goal was brought about, the crippling of the Trump presidency or impeachment, removal from office, then there would be no ramifications because they won. That was their goal. So I think that has to be looked at there. But one of the other things is that we are also seeing Tulsi Gabbard pointing the finger pretty directly at President Obama, saying he directed this and that this was a treasonous conspiracy. One thing that I've seen a lot on social media is that will President Obama be tried for treason and look at all this. I think we also have to think in context of the presidential immunity ruling. it gave broad protections to the president of things done. Retroactively. Under the presidency that were official acts. If President Trump calling the leader of a state about the election was considered immune from prosecution because that's an official act the president is calling a governor of a state or an elections team of an estate the president assembling a meeting of principles on intelligence and telling them to chase down a lead I think that, in retrospect, that is going to be seen as him doing the job of the president even if what he was doing was not permissible and not allowable. So I don't think that President Obama is someone you're going to see charged with treason here. But... It is going to be interesting what happens, what the DOJ decides to do, what Pam Bondi decides to do with all this information with respect to that other list of people.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a very interesting spot coming out of the Epstein situation, everything that happened with the FBI to, again, maybe if nothing happens, then you're going to have some people who are really upset of a lot of issues, what's going on. at the DOJ but we'll see we'll see where that lands there are a lot of you calling in I want to try to get to you before we get to Mike Pompeo let's first go to Becky in Texas watching on Facebook line three you're on the air thank you for taking my call my comment is that if I knew that there was a coup going on my whole church knew of a
SPEAKER 04 :
Membership of twenty two thousand. We all knew about the coup that was going on. And yet I didn't hear any Republicans screaming out about it. I didn't hear about it. Nobody talked about the coup. And that's exactly what was going on.
SPEAKER 07 :
See, I would take a little bit of a different take on that, Becky. I mean, one, if you've watched this broadcast, we from the conservative side, we're talking about it. We'd have members of Congress on talking about it. There were Republicans at the time. Once you got past the midterms and after the Mueller investigation was wrapped up. The Democrats controlled Congress at that point. So there wasn't a ton that Congress could do. I've seen people in the chat saying, why didn't John Ratcliffe do anything when he was made the director of national intelligence at the tail end of the Trump presidency? He was in there May 26th of 2020. So an election year in the thick of COVID. You know what the director of national intelligence was doing at that time? Mostly focused on what China was doing to the United States. which was unleashing a global pandemic. Rightfully so. Rightfully so. Not that that wasn't something that was important to him, the whole Russia collusion hoax, because while he was on the member of the Judiciary Committee, he was one of the front leaders of trying to bring truth about. Same with Devin Nunes. Who was a deputy of Devin Nunes? Kash Patel so kind of the dream team to get to the bottom of the Russia collusion hoax is now in the government and you know what they're not dealing with an election year they're not dealing with a global pandemic they are now having their own teams in there to really get to the bottom of this and you see things like what director Ratcliffe has put out in the last few weeks about this very thing related to his predecessor at CIA John Brennan a few directors back and I think that they are on top of this and going for it. And we know that the FBI is investigating James Comey. We know that the CIA has referred John Brennan to the Department of Justice. And we know the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has the goods and is releasing them and is giving that to the DOJ to get some final accountability.
SPEAKER 08 :
We have four minutes and four calls, and I want to see if we can get to most of them. Let's go to Joe in Nevada real quick. Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Um, I wanted to take issue with the use of her language meant mandate. Trump didn't have a mandate. In fact, he lost.
SPEAKER 07 :
that election by the popular vote a half a million secondly there's gonna cut you off right there because uh that's not how elections are won and lost in this country the popular vote does not win the election the constitution lays out how you win an election it is based on the electoral college and so the popular vote you can say win loss that's like saying uh we had the least amount of fouls in a basketball game so therefore we won 2016.
SPEAKER 08 :
right yeah okay this isn't the 2020 as contested remember hillary uh can he's trying to say that hillary won because of it it's a ridiculous joe doesn't know what he's talking about thanks joe uh let's go to kathy in kentucky kathy go ahead
SPEAKER 13 :
Thank you. How can Trump supporters best respond to this bombshell information of evidence of treason on the part of the Obama administration?
SPEAKER 08 :
Share this show. I'm going to cut you off because we're running out of time. Share this show. Share just the news articles. Make sure people actually see this. in their algorithms it's going to be suppressed people need to find out about it you need to support people like tulsi gabbard when they are under attack as well because of course that's happening right now for all of the cabinet so make sure you and you know what as mature as this say a prayer for these people it's tough it is not easy to be in washington dc uh especially under this kind of fire let's go ahead let's go to uh let's go to brent who's calling on rumble go ahead
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah. Hi. Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. Hopefully there's no echo because I'm listening to you. We got you. Go. Yeah. Hey, so it's a quick two part question. Let me. You only got a minute. I'm sorry. Go. Okay, so with this information, does this clear that high hurdle or high bar to bring prosecution as treasonous and conspiracy?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Brent, that's what's going to be interesting to see if the DOJ brings in what charges if they go that way. The Constitution says treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them. or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort that their enemies, I think, could be a broad clause or phrase that they could try to go after. But that's a high bar. So I think that it'll be interesting. They're using treasonous conspiracy, I think, because that is coloring the term conspiracy to say what type. But I don't know what they would be going for.
SPEAKER 08 :
It will not be easy, Brent. But you know what? If Tulsi thinks she can get it.
SPEAKER 02 :
then you know what i put my trust i really have always respected and loved working with her so let's go to michael real quick michael we only have one minute left in this segment so you got about 20 seconds go gentlemen i remember back in like 72 with um nixon and i can remember seeing my parents and how ashamed and disappointed they were you know with what had come out with watergate and And yet I kind of question, do people have the same kind of shame feeling with Obama?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely not, Michael. We live in a very different polarized time. And look, I think we can go back and have a big conversation about Richard Nixon as well and his legacy. But beyond that, I won't get into that in 25 seconds. I will say that, no, I don't think we live in it. We are too politically divided. The media is too divided. There isn't shame on both sides. You're not going to turn on MSNBC and Fox and see the same point of view. I think with Nixon, with Watergate, there was a lot of the main networks kind of told you what to believe. The main newspapers told you what to believe, and that was it. When we get back, Secretary Mike Pompeo is joining us. A lot of calls. Welcome back to Seculo. Let's jump right in. We have Secretary Mike Pompeo joining us, who's been a member of our broadcast team now for many years and a member of the ACLJ, which has been great to have such amazing experts, especially when we're celebrating these 35 years of the ACLJ, 35 years of justice. Secretary Pompeo, thank you for joining us. Will, I'm going to let you set up this conversation because we're going to also get back to the topic on hand. And again, phone lines are now busied out. You can't call in because we know this is how this show wraps up today is with Secretary Pompeo.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. Mr. Secretary, we've been discussing kind of this information that Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard put out over the weekend about the Russia collusion hoax. But for years, there's been this media narrative that President Trump goes easy on Russia. And a lot of that is because of that Russia collusion hoax that he was buddies with Putin and therefore was going to go easy on him. But you were a member of the first Trump administration, and you know that's not true. As a matter of fact, you wrote an article that's up at ACLJ.org right now called America's Strong Stance on Russia Picks Up Where Trump 1.0 Left Off. So I just wanted to get into that. What's the real posture of the Trump administration towards Russia from your experience and looking even to today?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a great question. Let's just do a logic test. If you're Vladimir Putin, would you rather have Joe Biden or Donald Trump as the president of the United States? The answer is really easy. You invaded Ukraine when President Biden was there. You invaded Ukraine when President Obama was there. You didn't touch the darn thing when President Trump was there. I think it actually proves itself. But if you want to get even deeper about the things we did in the first Trump administration, we provided defensive weapons systems to Ukraine. Obama refused. Biden didn't want to do it. We made energy prices low by building, building, building here, drilling, drilling, drilling here. That hurt Putin dramatically. We put enormous number of sanctions on the Russian regime. We had real deterrence. And I am confident that the second version of Trump, the second term of President Trump, will do precisely the same. This narrative that somehow President Trump or Donald Trump was a Russian asset or connected to Putin or that Putin had some goods on him has always been false. It's always been known to be false and yet was distributed by the mainstream media and by a White House that was determined to push back against the lost election.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mr. Secretary, as we look at that, and we also know that context that we even talked about, that the media has tried to frame this as this cozy relationship where President Trump would do no wrong when it comes to Vladimir Putin, would not push back against him. We're seeing this report over the weekend that Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard released that showed... how much the CIA director, John Brennan, who was a predecessor of yours at CIA, was front and center on this entire angle and that they didn't just weaponize intelligence. She's claiming that there was even the manufacturer of intelligence by using things like the Steele dossier to give the color needed for a Russia collusion hoax in that intelligence community assessment. Yeah. Is this one of the biggest violations of trust with the American people and the IC community that is supposed to be giving and analyzing the straight data and able to give the President of the United States the information he needs to make the decisions to keep America safe?
SPEAKER 09 :
So I haven't seen what came out across the weekend yet. I'll get to it. But in some sense, this is not new. The knowledge that both Director Brennan and Director Comey, who was then head of the FBI, manipulated this intelligence process, and that President Obama green-lighted the publication of this report, the so-called ICA, is something that I worked on, in fact, was involved in, even when I was just the nominee to be the CIA director. On January 6th of 2017, there was a meeting in New York where Comey, Clapper and Brennan all came and told Donald Trump essentially that he was a Russian asset. I wrote about this in my book. No, they manipulated the intelligence process. They cherry picked data. They relied on a dossier that even they knew at the time and Director Brennan knew at the time was unsubstantiated and not sufficiently reliable to use as a data source. Indicates that this was pure politics at its worst, designed to push back on a political campaign that they in the end they lost. And then even after that, they tried to diminish President Trump's capacity to effectively govern and lead the United States. No doubt about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And Secretary Pompeo, it's a little bit I can see the comments coming in. You were almost 10 years out. from all of this. People are kind of maybe disenfranchised a bit because they've seen so many times it feels like they're being this smoking gun, if you will, and nothing ever happens. Now, I think that that is an over-exaggeration. I think you mainly focus and remember the ones where nothing happens. But in context of this, and knowing we also have maybe peace negotiations that could be coming back for Russia and Ukraine, what could something like a... you know, the sort of expose of the Russia collusion hoax now have on that dynamic between President Trump and President Putin heading into what we can hope will be the end of the war.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, look, I always think the more transparency you get, I think it's better. It creates a better foundation for conversations between leaders. So the fact that Director Gabbard is trying to get more information out there than was already there, I think is welcome. I hope it's good. I hope it's accurate. I hope it's not political either. We got to get it right, not politics. You know, it is 10 years on. And I think most of us who stared at this understood that this was truly a collusion hoax. You know, I imagine that Putin will see this He'll observe that President Trump is not any different than the President Trump he knew before. And I am hopeful that President Trump will be able to bring peace and restore the very deterrence that we had in the first four years.
SPEAKER 08 :
Secretary Pompeo, thank you so much for joining us today. We always appreciate your insights. And look, that's what we do here. We provide you with the experts to discuss all of these top topics of the day. And look, you may disagree with them and that's okay. That's part of the conversation is to make sure we have a diverse group of voices. We had on Tulsi Gabbard as part of our team. We have on Rick Grinnell. We have on Mike Pompeo. These are people who were involved or are involved in such deep ways in what the world of politics looks like right now. And sometimes you've got to have people there you can trust, and hopefully we provided some of those voices. I've also asked you, we're always looking to add to our roster. Ask people like Tulsi Gabbard graduated out and had to become the director of national intelligence. Sometimes we'll lose a member of the broadcast team here and there. Who would you like to see? Again, they can't really be a member of the current administration, so know that. And if they're currently a Fox News host, You know, that's not going to be it either. But maybe you've seen some independent media journalists. Maybe you've seen some other people involved in Washington, D.C. that you would like to see. Or maybe someone from the faith world that you would love to see be a contributor here to Sekulow. I'd love to hear from you. Put it in the comments. With that being said, I always like to hear from you because your voice, as I said, is always the most important one. And the reason that is, is because the ACLJ is supported exclusively by you. The ads you hear on your local radio stations, that doesn't go to us. The YouTube ads is so minute in terms of the grand scale of the ACLJ that it's a nice bonus to have, but it certainly is not paying for even many people's salaries at this point. To have this team, to have the best and the best in media and the best and the best in the legal world all around the world. Again, the ACLJ, we have the ECLJ, the European Center, again, funded by the ACLJ primarily. You have ACLJ Jerusalem funded primarily exclusively actually by the ACLJ. So when you think about where to put your money, know that it's going to a place that is going to respect your beliefs and feelings. And we always listen to you as well. So with that, I'm going to ask you to support the work. If you're looking online right now, if you're watching on one of our platforms, you can scan the QR code or just go to ACLJ.org. All donations made during this month are doubled right now. And this, again, is the final 10 days of our 35 years of Justice Drive. And we have exciting news coming in August. Another new campaign you're going to be a part of as well. that all your gifts today are doubled, there's another ACLJ champion, another ACLJ supporter, ready to unlock their pledge as soon as you make a donation. So do it today. Do it right now. Again, think about it. Pray about it. ACLJ.org. We will talk to you tomorrow.
Join Mike and Mark as they dissect the dynamics of power, the role of Somali immigrant politicians like Mamdani and Omar, and the controversial narratives surrounding them. The episode tackles topics like Marxist ideologies, the transformation within the Democratic Party, and historical sentiments that still influence modern politics. With humor and critical analysis, Mike and Mark share their views on the misconceptions about alligator myths and racism, unveiling a broader conversation on how these narratives are used in political contexts.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nobody pandered more than Jacob Fry. Do you remember him weeping over George Floyd? Of course. Oh, my gosh. I mean, he did everything he could to pander and to pretend and to fawn. It didn't get him anywhere. They kicked him to the curb anyway. It didn't even matter. I mean... Every single person needs to take a lesson from this. You can't pander to the left. No other mayor, Mark, groveled more at the feet of BLM and DEI than Jacob Fry. And they still tossed him aside like trash for someone who calls Somalia home. Precisely. He wants Minneapolis to be more like Somalia. He has said that. And people are okay with that. They love it. They do love it. Now, there's excitement for him. There's excitement for Mamdani. I've got to ask you a question.
SPEAKER 04 :
This guy makes Mamdani look like Dan Bongino. No kidding. This is...
SPEAKER 03 :
But this is really happening, so I have to ask you why it's happening. I've got a theory. I've been thinking about this over the weekend. I think what's happening is the left believes they should self-correct Trump's victories. We've got six months of a list full of Trump accomplishments that are some of the most stunning and consequential accomplishments of any president in our lifetime, Mark. And I think they believe, all right, let me quote Beto O'Rourke. Mm-hmm. Better O'Rourke. Let's have people return their cars to the road. Well, have you heard the clip of him that's going viral that we have to be ruthless in reclaiming power? I know. The Democrats, this is what they're about, is ruthless power. And sometimes people like Beto O'Rourke say it out loud. They say the quiet part out loud.
SPEAKER 04 :
They do us the favor of revealing what's in their heads and their hearts.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're revealing what's in their heads. And so Beto, and I'm going to play this clip until you're tired of it today on the show, because this is what they care about. Winning doesn't work for them. Hillary lost. Biden lost. Beto, Lord knows, Beto lost. I mean, they lose. They're not winning with votes. So they've got to look at redistricting. They've got to look at playing dirty. They've got to look at trying to throw charges at Trump and all this crap. They are about ruthless, ambitious power. And so I'm wondering if this crazy, wild-eyed move towards communist, Marxist, socialist looney tunes like Mamdani and Omar in Minneapolis, is that part of this effort to get ruthless power back? Of course it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you have to wonder about its ultimate wisdom because you'll get the occasional Mamdani who may or may not win for mayor of New York. You'll get this guy like Omar Fatah who may or may not win for – probably will win for mayor of Minneapolis. He doesn't have a busy four-person election to navigate his way through. Right. Is that just a function of the moment in a Somali heavy city like Minneapolis? Or is it emblematic of something that is broader, something that the Democratic Party is slowly turning itself into? And if it is, as you've described, a thirst for power, an attempt to rattle the cage and reclaim power in some bold way, how can it do anything but fail miserably? Because for every Mamdani, for every Omar Fateh in Minneapolis, there's still more Democrats in America still who are saying, man, I miss JFK. Man, I miss Joe Lieberman. Man, I miss Bill Clinton, some of them are saying. Bill Clinton would be a center-right figure by today's measure. If it's a quest for power, it's doomed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the Somalis alone won't get this guy elected. So you're right. It's either doomed because normal, reasonable people, Democrats, if there's any left, are going to say, uh-uh, we can't do this. We can't. I mean, to hear this guy talk about making Minneapolis like Somalia is stunning. And you think about this. And I do believe he was born here in the United States, if I'm not mistaken. Tracy, can you fact check that for me and see if Omar Fattah was born here or not? Born in D.C. That's what I thought. Yep. But certainly Somali and his family from Somalia. You think about the image of people migrating here, immigrating here from another country, and then basically taking over power, taking over. Look at Congress. Look at Ilhan Omar. You know, look at these people who are coming to the United States. And this sounds, you know, edgy. And I don't want to be racist. I mean, I know it's not racist. It's a fact. Do you have any problem? Byron Donald's.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, of course not. The last time I checked was a black man just like Omar Fateh.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's attitudinal. It's political. It is, but I also don't have a single problem with somebody saying, okay, my family came here from another country. So that's not really the driving force. No, it's all behavioral and political. And ideological. I mean, you know, no cash bail and let the criminals roam the streets and open borders and we're not going to cooperate with ICE. And how about, P.S., mix in a little redistribution of the wealth while you're at it. And, you know, very Marxist, you know, and against private property. That was the classic I played on Friday. Mamdani would like to abolish private property because everybody deserves to own something.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's the root of all liberty is private property ownership. And in fact, go back two minutes to what you were saying, all of it great. There's not even a problem. I mean, it's part of the definition of America, people coming from other lands, becoming American, and then establishing whatever life they want, including running for public office. There's no problem. Yeah. There's certainly no problem with somebody coming from another land, becoming American, getting citizenship, and running for public office. That's not the problem with Omar. That's not the problem with these folks. It is that they hate the country they have come to.
SPEAKER 03 :
They despise this country.
SPEAKER 04 :
And are looking to change it in terrible ways.
SPEAKER 03 :
Elon Omar said that last week. Elon Omar said America's a terrible place, essentially. All right, I've got to leave you with this. Headline from Axios. You know Axios is one of my go-tos. I know they're left of center. They're a bubble of their establishment. They have them in cities all over the country. I'm sure there's an Axios Dallas. There is. There's an Axios Tampa Bay. Headline, Alligator Alcatraz. Alligator Alcatraz leans on myth steeped in racism. Yeah, that's right. Do you remember when Pete Buttigieg said that bridges are racist? Yes, of course. Axios has decided to hold my beer. The idea... Are you ready? Yes. The idea... First of all, they claim that alligators don't really like to eat humans. However... According to Axios, I'm not making this up. You can Google this. You can look it up. I swear to you. Oh, no. I'm reading here an article by somebody named Catherine Varn.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
The idea of the alligator lusting for human flesh is rooted in racism. Dating back to Jim Crow, when tourists could buy postcards illustrating black children as gator bait. Right. I kid you not. This article claims that there is actually a racist reason that Trump likes alligator Alcatraz. He's a racist because it goes back. It's a myth that goes back to the way to dehumanize, oppress and suppress.
SPEAKER 04 :
newly freed african americans i'm reading here all right so and they understand so we put we put a facility in the everglades yes because we we just love the idea the yes that old nostalgic imagery yes black kids being black children black children being the swamps to be eaten
SPEAKER 03 :
In fact, the article includes a postcard depicting black children as alligator baits.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're on to us, Mike.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know how much longer we can survive. The walls are closing in now. They've figured this out. Final quick observation. I've got to just say this. I don't think there's a lot of black kids right now at alligator outposts.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just saying. Download the podcast and hear all of Mike and Mark's conversations at MikeOnline.com for the Eminem Experience.
SPEAKER 03 :
The Eminem Experience. Subscribe to the Mike Gallagher Show podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
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Join Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis as they engage in a compelling dialogue about the shift within the Democratic Party. The conversation highlights political figures like Mamdani and Omar, who have become emblematic of a potential transformation towards socialist ideologies. Both hosts dissect the impact of such changes on the political landscape, questioning the sustainability of these views amidst America's diversity and foundational values.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience. What? Nobody pandered more than Jacob Fry. Do you remember him weeping over George Floyd? Of course. Oh, my gosh. I mean, he did everything he could to pander and to pretend and to fawn. It didn't get him anywhere. They kicked him to the curb anyway. It didn't even matter. I mean, every single person needs to take a lesson from this. You can't pander to the left. No other mayor, Mark, groveled more at the feet of BLM and DEI than Jacob Fry. And they still tossed him aside like trash for someone who calls Somalia home. Precisely. He wants Minneapolis to be more like Somalia. He has said that. And people are okay with that. They love it. They do love it. Now, there's excitement for him. There's excitement for Mamdani.
SPEAKER 01 :
I've got to ask you a question. This guy makes Mamdani look like Dan Bongino. No kidding. This is bad.
SPEAKER 02 :
But this is really happening. So I have to ask you why it's happening. I've got a theory. I've been thinking about this over the weekend. I think what's happening is the left believes they should self-correct. Trump's victories. We've got six months of a list full of Trump accomplishments that are some of the most stunning and consequential accomplishments of any president in our lifetime, Mark. And I think they believe, all right, let me quote Beto O'Rourke. Let's have people return their cars to the road. Well, have you heard the clip of him that's going viral that we have to be ruthless in reclaiming power? I know. The Democrats, this is what they're about, is ruthless power. And sometimes people like Beto O'Rourke say it out loud. They say the quiet part out loud.
SPEAKER 01 :
They do us the favor of revealing what's in their heads and their hearts.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're revealing what's in their heads. And so Beto, and I'm going to play this clip until you're tired of it today on the show, because this is what they care about. Winning doesn't work for them. Hillary lost. Biden lost. Lord knows Beto lost. I mean, they lose. They're not winning with votes. So they've got to look at redistricting. They've got to look at playing dirty. They've got to look at trying to throw charges at Trump and all this crap. They are about ruthless, ambitious power. And so I'm wondering if this crazy, wild-eyed move towards communist, Marxist, socialist looney tunes like Mamdani and Omar in Minneapolis, is that part of this effort to get ruthless power back? Of course it is.
SPEAKER 01 :
And you have to wonder about its ultimate wisdom, because you'll get the occasional Mamdani who may or may not win for mayor of New York. You'll get this guy like Omar Fatah who may or may not win for, probably will win for mayor of Minneapolis. He doesn't have a busy four-person election to navigate his way through. Right. Is that just a function of the moment in a Somali-heavy city like Minneapolis? Or is it emblematic of something that is broader, something that the Democratic Party is slowly turning itself into? And if it is, as you've described, a thirst for power, an attempt to rattle the cage and reclaim power in some bold way, how can it do anything but fail miserably? Because for every Mamdani, for every Omar Fateh in Minneapolis, there's still more Democrats in America still who are saying, man, I miss JFK. Man, I miss Joe Lieberman. Man, I miss Bill Clinton, some of them are saying. Bill Clinton would be a center-right figure by today's measure. If it's a quest for power, it's doomed.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, the Somalis alone won't get this guy elected. So you're right. It's either doomed because normal, reasonable people, Democrats, if there's any left, are going to say, uh-uh, we can't do this. We can't. I mean, to hear this guy talk about making Minneapolis like Somalia is stunning. And you think about this. And I do believe he was born here in the United States, if I'm not mistaken. Tracy, can you fact check that for me and see if Omar Fattah was born here or not? Born in D.C. That's what I thought. Yep. But certainly Somali and his family from Somalia. You think about the image of people migrating here, immigrating here from another country and then basically taking over power, taking over. Look at look at Congress. Look at Ilhan Omar. You know, look at these people who are coming to the United States. And this sounds, you know, edgy. And I don't want to be racist. I mean, I know I'm not. It's not racist. It's a fact.
SPEAKER 01 :
Do you have any problem with Byron Donalds? No, of course not. The last time I checked was a black man just like Omar Fateh.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's attitudinal. It's political. It is, but I also don't have a single problem with somebody saying, okay, my family came here from another country. So that's not really the driving force. No, it's all behavioral and political. And ideological. I mean, you know, no cash bail and let the criminals roam the streets and open borders and we're not going to cooperate with ICE. And how about, P.S., mix in a little redistribution of the wealth while you're at it. And, you know, very Marxist, you know, and against private property. That was the classic I played on Friday. Mamdani would like to abolish private property because everybody deserves to own something.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's the root of all liberty is private property ownership. And in fact, go back two minutes to what you were saying, all of it great. There's not even a problem. I mean, it's part of the definition of America, people coming from other lands, becoming American, and then establishing whatever life they want, including running for public office. There's no problem. No. There's certainly no problem with somebody coming from another land, becoming American, getting citizenship, and running for public office. That's not the problem with Omar. That's not the problem with these folks. It is that they hate the country they have come to.
SPEAKER 02 :
They despise this country.
SPEAKER 01 :
And are looking to change it in terrible ways.
In this episode of Shooting the Breeze, we dive deep into the intricacies of managing health in today's chemically saturated environment. Learn how the hidden costs of health treatments pose challenges for many, while exploring how little-known survival strategies, both in first aid and alternative wellness, can pave the way for a healthier lifestyle. Our host also sheds light on the revolutionary facilities at Franktown Firearms, a haven for practical firearms training, underscoring the importance of preparedness in every aspect of life.
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Monday, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in to Shooting the Breeze today. I always appreciate each and every one of you for stopping in and listening to me rant for a while, and I hope to hear from somebody today at some point. Happy Mother's Day, by the way, to all the mamas out there. Hopefully you got spoiled a little bit yesterday. Had a lovely birthday and Mother's Day weekend. Yes, Friday was my 60th birthday. Oh, my God. Luke, how did that happen? How did I get 60?
SPEAKER 05 :
Time passed, I suppose.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's just unbelievable because in my mind, you know, I'm still like this adolescent kind of, you know, I've got this way of thinking that just puts me in a different mindset. I'm not 60. I can't be 60. Anyway, so I had a great birthday with my daughter. She took me to this great little painting and cocktail places that you can go to, and I created a masterpiece. I'm just kidding. I have absolutely no artistic skills whatsoever, but my piece turned out pretty well, maybe slightly better than Hunter Biden's watercolor, you know, straw blowing things that he did that he's selling for a million dollars that, you know, use the straw that he used to do a line five minutes earlier, but whatever. I think it's okay. But it was very fun and had a very lovely dinner with my family that night. And then I got to go, my daughter actually had to work on Mother's Day, so we went to the hospital and had lunch with her, and it was fantastic. 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They'll be more than happy to do that. This facility is going to blow your mind. and you're not going to find this kind of training anywhere else. It's going to get you through any situation with confidence, and at least you're going to have this in your back pocket as sort of a platform on which to base your real-life situations. And God forbid, hopefully that never happens to you, but this kind of training is invaluable, so you're going to want to check it out. So this morning, I guess some major crash on I-70. I'm sure a lot of you listening right now were probably stuck in that mess. My husband was stuck in it for quite a while. That was insane. I guess the driver, I don't know, according to KDVR, the Aurora PD told Fox 31 that the A call came in at 1230 in the morning today that semi-driver had reportedly swerved to avoid sudden braking and crashed into the pole of an overhead electronic sign. And the truck, ironically, nowadays, it's kind of funny to hear this part, but the truck was carrying cases and cases of eggs, which are now strewn all over the highway. One lane, I guess, was opened around 6 a.m. this morning. The truck driver was taken to the hospital with minor injuries, which is a miracle, if you ask me, because the pictures of this crash and the cab of that truck look absolutely devastating. So prayers to everyone involved with that. I can't even imagine. So I'm going to start out today by talking about something that I read this morning and You've heard me talk about prepping in the past, prepping and survival and, you know, just all the stuff that you need for that. I'm always encouraging people to have an extra supply of food and water, medical supplies, maybe a generator or two and batteries and flashlights and a bug-out bag and all that good stuff. Anyone who considers themselves preppers have all of this and much, much more. But what about a situation... where it's not really the end of the world, Mad Max kind of scenario. You just run out of gas and deep in the mountains or you get lost on a hike at a time when you're not fully prepared for it. Now, we talk about the dangerous RF, right, radio frequency, and how our phone screens are damaging our eyes and that cell phones are not good for anyone in general and to reduce screen time for our kids and all of that stuff. but we all have a cell phone with us at all times. You do, I do, most people do. And an article from Survivopedia this morning talks about the 15 ways that your cell phone could save your life. And I'm just going to say as an aside that with some of this information, it might be a good idea to even charge up an old, outdated phone that you've replaced and keep the old outdated phone charged and handy. You don't have to be able to use it. You'll understand why here in a minute. But, and I will also preface this by saying that this is very, some of this, like the last half of it are very apocalyptic. Like some of the scenarios here would only be necessary in very, very dire circumstances, which makes me wonder if the author of this article thought about the fact that that if the grid goes down or if the doo-doo really hits the fan, having a cell signal is probably not in the cards. So I'm going to digress from that and just take this for what it is, but here we go. Fifteen ways that your cell phone can save your life. Starting out with the obvious and assuming that you're in an area that has cell coverage or if there's any cell coverage at all, you can call for help. Duh, provided your smartphone is working, you can use it to call for help, potentially ending a survival ordeal shortly after it begins. Number two, you can relay your coordinates. Use your smartphone to give rescuers GPS coordinates and address or, you know, your location so they can find you. That's what also kind of stands to reason. It's very simplistic. Number three, it has a flashlight. We all know that. Pretty much all cell phones now have built-in flashlights. One guy with a small flashlight could save a large group of people during a 911 by helping them navigate dark stairwells obstructed by smoke or debris. A flashlight can help you find your way in the dark, find what you need to build a fire or to see to build shelter. So don't underestimate the utility of a humble flashlight. The fourth is emergency signal. This one I thought was really interesting. So your phone's screen can be used to reflect sunlight. You've seen all the old movies and stuff where they have the mirror and they direct the mirror towards the sun and they're flashing it, you know, to send out an SOS or whatever. So it can be used in that way, and that can be seen for a really long way away. Will Franzen fell overboard and was able to signal a boat using his wristwatch as a signal mirror after treading water for 24 hours. So your smartphone will definitely get the job done. If you have added an adhesive scratch-resistant screen cover to your phone, you may need to pull it off and rub any adhesive off the glass to get a good reflection. The phone's flashlight feature can be used for emergency signaling at night. Just use an object to cover the light to make it appear to flash. So basically what they're saying here is that you can send an SOS. If you do three long bursts of light followed by three short ones and then three long ones, so you would just cover or like turn it, you know, and just to create the long and short SOS signal. So even if a person who sees the light doesn't understand Morse code, signals in groups of threes is a universal distress code. So anybody with an IQ above room temperature who sees a light flashing in groups of three should either investigate or alert authorities. If you have called for help and relayed your coordinates, let them know that you will be attempting to signal using your cell phone as a signal mirror. And so people will be looking for that, which I think is pretty cool. The next one is land navigation. Smartphones have GPS and compass functions, making them first-rate navigation tools. Just don't get so dependent on using GPS to navigate that you stop noticing landmarks, which I think is very smart as well. And, you know, this brings me to maps. How many people these days know, young people especially, know how to read a map? And that's scary to me. I'm going to say I'm completely guilty of that. Our daughter would have no idea. She GPS, she Google Maps everything. So I wish that more people would, you know, kind of teach their kids, myself included, how to read a map, an actual physical paper map. And then he goes on to say, I'm not just being a crusty old survival writer here. More people are getting seriously lost since the proliferation of GPS than before it. Some of that is because there are more people, but some of it is because those people haven't developed the synapses in their brains that help them intuit direction. They are so dependent on staring at screens that they no longer pay attention to where they are going. Some of them don't even bother to learn to use a map and compass. If that's you, look up from your screen and start paying attention. Also realize the GPS is way more likely to tell you to drive into a lake or off a cliff in the middle of the wilderness than in a metropolis. Pay attention accordingly. And that's true, too. I think I've told the story. I was trying to find a a location where our daughter was having volleyball practice. And I'd never been there before, and it was at night, it was in the winter. And so we were driving around, and it was Apple Maps that I was using, and it kept telling me turn right here, but it was into like a row of bushes. So we just ended up going home. Like I had no idea where it was. I didn't see enough cars to think that maybe this is it. And we just went home because the Apple Maps thing was incorrect, and I didn't know where I was going. And so, again, I guess I was guilty of not reading a map or bringing a map. So number six is monocular. Some cell phones have optical and or digital zoom cameras enabling them to see distant objects more clearly than with the naked eye. Using the digital zoom on the trail can tell you that if a hiker is part of your party or not and enable you to scan his waist and hands for weapons, which I think is kind of cool. Again, gloom and doom, apocalyptic kind of stuff. Number seven is magnifying glass. Just as some cameras can be used as a monocular to see distant objects, they can also be used to magnify objects close up when the camera is switched to the correct setting, which is probably labeled macro. Using this setting, some smartphones can be used like a magnifying glass to find small slivers, eye particles, or they can help us old folks read instructions that are too small to see. Number eight, take photos and videos. I don't think I need to elaborate on that. Number nine, alert you to danger. Most phones can alert you to danger through wireless emergency alerts without installing an app or subscribing to a device or to a service. And then he goes on to say, I was camping on Lake Powell one year on Lone Rock Beach and cell phones and radios with NOAA all-hazard weather radio, same technology, started vibrating and emitting the weather emergency alert tone, I guess is what that means, and started squawking, warning of high winds. The warning gave just enough time to gather up Everyone or everything that wasn't staked to the ground before a microburst came tearing through the beach. I'm no newbie to high winds or sandstorms on Lake Powell, so our tents were staked down with sand hog stakes. When it was all over, my two Katoma CVCTVI tents were the only tents on the beach that weren't in the lake. It broke from lines and poles and whatever. So he goes on to talk about how it can alert you to danger. Digital survival library. Now, this is where you're going to have to have a cell phone signal in order to, you know, reach this kind of information. Using your smartphone as a survival library can save you in many more ways. It can provide you with survival manuals and reference material, including first aid instructions, how to tie knots, how to build a fire, build a shelter, treat water, procure food, and so on. Reference material includes shelter-in-place instructions, how to build an improvised fallout shelter, decontamination instructions, repair manuals, and how-to instructions to survive the apocalypse. So obviously, again, very apocalyptic. The next one is, and these are going to involve destroying your cell phone, which is why I said to keep a charged old phone in your car, in your backpack. They don't weigh that much. Just throw one in there. You can start a fire. It says if you remove your cell phone's battery, it can be used with a conductor such as wires from your headphones or charging cable to start a fire. The battery should produce some voltage even if your phone says it's at 0%. That means that it isn't producing enough voltage to power your smartphone's circuits, and it doesn't necessarily mean that the battery is not producing any voltage. So be sure to give it a try, even if your cell phone tells you your battery is at zero. Batteries can also be used with steel wool or incandescent flashlight bulb filaments to start a fire. And that sounds to me like you would have to destroy your flashlight as well. If your battery is not producing enough voltage but you have more than one battery available, batteries of the same voltage and capacity can be wired into series to increase the voltage produced by the circuit. And once again, there's a lot of people in this generation and even older generations that wouldn't even know what in the hell this guy's talking about, wiring something in series. I know some... male humans that barely even know how to turn a screwdriver. So this is kind of concerning all the way around. But anyway, I will continue. Making a cutting tool. You can break your phone's screen and use a sliver of it as a cutting tool. More expensive smartphones typically have glass screens, and cheaper ones have plastic screens. You can make a cutting tool from either material, but glass is obviously going to be much sharper. Glass can also be pressure flaked into cutting tools, scraping tools, and projectile points in much the same way as our ancestors used obsidian and flint to make tools. You can make a compass, it says. Everybody reading this website probably knows that the magnet from a good pair of headphones can be used to magnetize a needle or a similar ferrous object which can be floated on a leaf and the north pointing pole used here. for a compass. There are usually easier ways to determine where magnetic north is, such as celestial navigation. The permanent magnets in headphones are usually flat cylindrical magnets. Smartphones usually have at least two speakers, one for calls and one for the bottom audio, but the permanent magnets are covered, whatever, whatever. So it goes on to talk about how you can make a compass out of the magnet in the cell phone. Again, this is all stuff that you would obviously have to research on how to do. You can make cordage. The wire in a headphone and charging cables can be used as cordage. Some cables even come in fabric sheaths like Kern mantle sheaths on paracord. This can also be used as cordage, or you can also make cordage from any article of clothing you are wearing. And then, finally, you can make a fish hook. Parts of your smartphone circuit board and plastic and or metal body can sometimes be used to make fish hooks. At the very least, they can be used to make gorge hooks. So very interesting stuff. Just a little device can possibly, you know, offer you a lot of life-saving things that Smartphone accessories, it says, are every bit as important as the device itself. With accessories such as a battery bank with a solar panel and a universal charging cable, you can keep your battery charged as long as you can expose the solar panel to sunlight every couple of days. That's it. So there you go. Your current phone, keep your current phone, keep an old phone charged up and throw it in in case you get into a situation where you have to smash your phone and make a fish hook out of it. I don't know. I just thought that was... Kind of interesting stuff, all the survival stuff. I get those emails, so I think it's kind of interesting. So next up, and for the remainder, well, maybe not the whole entire remainder of the show, but I'm going to talk about our perpetual journey to better health. And it's a daunting task to navigate everything that we're subjected to, right? We've all heard the stories about our food supply, and we often wonder if we're actually even eating food anymore. I think that all the time. Every time I get a piece of chicken, even if it's a natural Purdue, you know, chicken breast from the grocery store, it's like, is this real? Am I eating like lab-grown meat here? What is this? And then, you know, we've got the petroleum-based dyes and the additives and pesticides, herbicides and fillers and chemicals of all kinds are in almost everything that we buy at the store, right? RFK Jr. is trying, trying to get, you know, food dyes, for example, eliminated from our food. And I guess the FDA has recently green-lighted the push to replace the chemical dyes with natural alternatives. But as you know, the wheels turn very slowly. So who knows when we'll actually see, you know, beet powder being substituted for red 40 or whatever. It could take a while. It could be years. Who knows? But the obvious ones are things like fast food and soda and chips and crackers and processed meats and seed oils and whatever. all that stuff, like those found in the seed oils especially. Every single salad dressing that we eat has some kind of heinous seed oil in it. So we think we're eating this healthy salad and then it turns out, you know, no, you're killing yourself because it's got, you know, sunflower oil in it or whatever. It's so frustrating. And then we have the toxins in our personal care products, shampoo and body wash. which body wash is probably the worst because the skin is the largest organ on the body, and so we're just slathering ourselves with all these chemicals. The skin creams and lotions and conditioners and our toothpaste and the deodorant that has aluminum in it, and the list goes on and on and on. You know it. The chemicals that we encounter just by cleaning our house, the window cleaner, the floor cleaners, furniture polish, the air fresheners, All of it, absolute poison. And did you ever think, I know that everybody knows that their water is chlorinated. The water that comes out of your tap has chlorine in it, right? We know this. Okay, I'm going to tell you a story here in a second. But the amount of chlorine and fluoride in our water would make your head spin. And we just kind of live with the thought of having a neurotoxin and a carcinogen in our water supply. And that should just tick everybody off to no end. This story, I saw a video a while back, quite a while, probably six, nine months or something. This woman was doing chlorine tests on her water, and it wasn't just a test on her water. She was using test strips to test her water to see, you know, just what the level was. But then she put tap water into a glass and she put a test strip in it and she read very high chlorine levels, obviously, because we know that our tap water has chlorine levels. And we usually put our water through a filter or whatever. If you know, that's what you do. My mom used to drink tap water. It used to drive me crazy. But then in this glass, so she puts the test strip in. It reads very high in chlorine. She takes the test strip out. She puts her hand in there. So she takes her whole hand in a fist, and she puts it down into the water, and she leaves her hand in there for about 10 seconds. She pulls her hand out. She puts another test strip in the water. And lo and behold, the chlorine was almost nothing. So where did the chlorine go? It went into her body, through her skin. So we're even poisoning ourselves every time we take a shower or wash our hands. So we're trying to read labels. We're trying to check for, you know, contained bioengineered food ingredients that I mean, heck, now we're even checking for crickets and mealworms in our food. At least I am. We're taking supplements by the dozens in hopes of reversing some of the damage that's being caused by what we eat and what we put on our bodies and laundry detergent and everything else. And then we may or may not discover things like Soursop or Methylene Blue or ECGC, and those are becoming more popular as people, you know, kind of navigate and try to get a handle on their health and wellness. But when you jump down the rabbit hole of health and wellness, you will discover that our food is just the beginning. If you have a major health challenge that you're dealing with, And that's when you discover most of what I'm talking about. You want to do everything you can to optimize your health and to heal yourself, to enable your body to rejuvenate and to heal itself, as we were designed to do. You want to research everything so you can optimize yourself. And, you know, so you start researching, if nothing else, out of desperation, right? Because you want to find out what can I do for myself outside of the doctor's office. So when you start researching things, you discover that the medical industrial complex and big pharma are literally hiding everything from you. You find supplements and procedures and these different kinds of complex herbs and other alternatives to taking pills. and you quickly discover an entire world of things that you never knew about. Yes, you'll get some exercise, you'll work out, you try to change your habits and not be so sedentary, and you take the standard supplements, maybe a multivitamin, and you read food labels and you try to avoid what you believe to be toxins, even though just for somebody to look at a bottle of salad dressing and say sunflower oil, well, that doesn't sound toxic. It's sunflower oil. It's palm oil. What's wrong with that? So you have to know these things, right? There are things that you can do, although maybe not proven by mainstream science, but you're reading and learning about alternative medicine, why it works, and the more you research, the more sense it makes to you. So as you keep learning, you maybe start to read about grounding, right? Grounding is supposed to put your body in direct contact and in tune with the earth's frequency and promote healing and overall wellness and sleep better and less joint pain and all kinds of stuff is related to grounding. And maybe you've heard about tuning forks or other frequency devices and how different frequencies can promote healing, even regeneration. There's vibration plates. that are good for lymphatic drainage and mobility, and sometimes it can simulate exercise depending on the level that you put it at. You can go to a holistic practitioner and get things like hocket treatments. As a side note, there is something that I've recently learned that probably not many people know, and that is the frequency of fabric changes. This is really interesting. And when we get back from our break, I'm going to read some things to you on the subject of fabric and the different frequencies that it can offer and what we might be doing to ourselves. We'll be right back.
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And we are back. So I was just talking about some different, I don't know, alternative means of helping yourself and helping to promote healing and wellness and all that kind of stuff. And the subject of fabrics, I think, is sort of new. I mean, it's new to me anyway. So I'll just say that it's new to me. And I found it very interesting. And I'm going to read something to you on the subject, and I'll get back to this other stuff in just a minute. But first, I'm going to take Johnny. Johnny, what do you got for me?
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. I'm reading this book. I think it's called 80-10-10. And in this book, he talks about, and doctors, they either know this or they're pretending that they don't know it. So you've got diabetes, too. And they always tell you, don't eat any fruit because it'll put too much sugar in your body. But what the real thing is, eating fats, foods with fat in it, that diversely affects the body. And if you do, instead of decreasing fruit, increasing that and And I see a lot of these herbalist shows where they say, well, they reverse the diabetes. And I come out and say, well, how do they do that? And it's just by doing the opposite of what the doctors tell you. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's very scary.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And they know this, but the farmer, they won't make any money if they tell people because who would need insulin? Yep, yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
We're going to get deep into that, too, in a few minutes here.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, and then one last thing. Okay, so my brother, he had a stroke in October. So they feed him through his stomach. They have him sort of like in this traumatic kind of thing. So then he comes out of it. Then my sister-in-law, instead of, because the body is, what, 70% water, instead of feeding him foods that have liquid in it, she goes back to the SAD diet, sausages, eggs, pancakes. no vegetables at all, and then he declines again. And I said, they gave me a window where you could do something different, but instead you go back to the sad guy that probably got him into this condition in the first place.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's just very frustrating.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it is frustrating. And what's more frustrating is that the medical industrial complex, which I'm going to, like I said, I'm going to talk about here in a minute, is is keeping all this stuff from us, and it's maddening and should institute a revolt. Thank you for your call, Johnny. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
God bless. So the concept of fabric frequencies suggests that different materials vibrate at different frequencies. And as we all know, or maybe you don't know, we all, everything has a frequency, everything. This computer in front of me, obviously, these books above my head right now have a frequency to them. And this can impact human energy and well-being. Natural fabrics like linen and wool are believed to have higher frequencies, potentially promoting health. while synthetic fabrics like polyester have lower frequencies, which might not be as beneficial. A study conducted by Dr. Heidi Yellen in 2003 suggested that a healthy human body has a frequency of 100, while fabrics also possess frequencies. Linen and wool, for example, were found to have frequencies of 5,000, whereas polyester had a frequency of 10,000. according to a blog on Salts and West clothing. So the theory proposes that fabrics with higher frequencies can enhance well-being while those with lower frequencies might be energetically draining. Example of fabric frequencies. So we have linen, which is 5,000 hertz. Wool is 5,000 hertz. Organic cotton is 3,500 hertz. Conventional cotton, 2,500 hertz. Silk is 5,000 hertz, and polyester is 10 hertz. So synthetic fabrics like polyester, often associated with lower frequencies, potentially leading to negative energy impacts. Natural fabrics like linen and cotton are believed to have higher frequencies, which can be beneficial for energy and well-being. And then, of course, it gives a caution. It's important to note that the concept of fabric frequencies is not scientifically mainstream and is often considered part of alternative or complementary medicine practices. I love how they put that in there as if it's a bad thing. You know, they do all this stuff on purpose. It kind of makes me insane. But I guess the big takeaway here is that everything is poison, pretty much. Our food, our water, our air, our soil, our clothing even. You just can't escape it. And unless you have a bunch of extra money, you have no choice. And I'm going to get to the money part here in a second and kind of the knowledge part. But if you're on a fixed income, which I never really understood the term fixed income, aren't most people on a fixed income, meaning they work and they get a paycheck and then the paycheck doesn't really change unless they get a raise? Most people live paycheck to paycheck. So in actuality, it should be called low fixed income, right? as in people on disability or those who receive Social Security benefits, and those are people maybe on welfare and collecting food stamps or SNAP benefits or whatever. And trust me, they don't buy organic and shop the perimeter like we're always supposed to, right? I can assure you of that. But if you're on a fixed income, then you really have no choice, right? Take a good vibration plate, for example. I don't know if you guys have researched vibration plates, but if you're dealing with anything chronic or cancerous or whatever, look into a vibration plate, and you will see. I mean, you can get them cheaper if you consider $200 cheap, but they can run as much as $3,000. They can run as much as $7,000. And we have a red light system. a red light system that has a frequency built into it. So it produces red light, infrared light. I have, we have one that's got a violet light on it and it produces a frequency and you can set the frequencies for different things. And we bought this book that has these different frequencies for whatever kind of illness. I mean, the book is like an inch and a half thick and it's full of frequencies. And that system that we bought was $4,700. We got a grounding mat that And pillowcases, those were $400. And we got linen sheets, and those were $130. And then all the supplements, including, you know, the cell signaling supplement that we drink called ASEA, which alone is $450 a month. My husband's concierge naturopathic doctor is $2,500 a year. And all of his treatments that he goes to, $175 to $250 each. I'm talking thousands and thousands of dollars. And doing the math, on average, we spent about $1,800 per month last year on just the extra healthy things that we've added to our lives and stuff to help with health and wellness and recovery and healing and all that stuff. And we're blessed that we can do all this, but people of limited means are just stuck. they're stuck with whatever their insurance happens to cover, which, as you know, is just what the medical industrial complex has to offer and what insurance agrees to pay for. So those two things right there are, you know, that's kind of a kink in everything, you know, in terms of, like Johnny was saying, just you have to go with what they tell you to go with, and it could send you backwards in your health. And what the medical industrial complex will pay for is usually heinous drugs that make you sicker, pills and more pills, and then pills to counter the pills that you're already taking, which results in a need for different pills. And then there's that vaccine, that vaccine that 99% of mainstream doctors seem to be pushing, even to this day, that's killing so many people and maiming people and making them unable to work and all kinds of stuff. And you guys have heard me rant a lot about that. But the bottom line is that many people can't afford to eat certified organic everything. They can't afford to buy only pasture-raised chickens and eggs and grass-fed beef and wild-caught Alaskan salmon or halibut or a reverse osmosis system for their drinking water, which is another thousand dollars for a small one. Not everyone has the money to shop at natural grocers or an online retailer to buy their natural organic cleaning products or personal care products. That stuff is expensive. Expensive supplements, specialized equipment, or concierge doctors all cost a lot of money, and it's all out of pocket. Of course, insurance is not going to cover that. They're not going to cover your hocket treatment or your ozone blood transfusion. Are you kidding me? Which the stuff that actually helps is not going to be covered. It's only the stuff that's going to make you sicker that's going to be covered by insurance. People will just do what their mainstream doctor tells them to do while continuing to eat the garbage that we all know is slowly killing everyone. just as an example of how expensive some supplements are. And so, you know, people start with little bites of information, you know, that you might hear like, oh, this is good for that. Or, you know, you might start your research and then you go out to find this supplement and you're like, holy cow, I can't afford that. So black cumin seed. I'm sure you guys have all heard of black cumin seed. It's touted as being able to cure everything but death I don't know if you guys have heard that before, but that's what they say. That's what the ancients say, that it can cure everything but death. At natural grocers, a bottle of concentrated black seed oil, which is like 3% concentration or whatever in these capsules, it's nearly $50 for a bottle of this stuff, for one small little, you know, just like a normal supplement bottle. It's insane. And my husband and I were even talking yesterday about cooking oil. And he saw that we should avoid avocado and olive oil when we're cooking. Raw, yes. Drizzle it over your salads, sure. But to cook with it, you know, supposedly these are the best oils in the world, and avocado oil is the greatest thing for cooking, and it's the best for you. But the higher the temperature goes on these oils, which is obviously what you need to cook in them, that oil turns into a cocktail of rancid poison. And we've discovered through extensive seeking and searching that we should only be cooking with beef tallow or grass-fed butter. Those two, period, end of list. Now, rendering tallow is not hard to do. And I don't know if I've told you guys that I kind of – found myself rendering tallow, I wanted to start making skin products with tallow and had a hiccup and couldn't find a bulk supply of cod fat that I needed to use for tallow that requires the least amount of cleaning. And, you know, that's a whole other story in and of itself, but it's not hard. And you can also go to a natural food store and buy jars of tallow. But again, it's not cheap. And if you're planning on cooking with tallow or deep frying in tallow or whatever, which everybody should be doing, you know, you're going to pay for that. But again, not everyone has the time, the money, or the inclination to render their own tallow or to buy expensive grass-fed butter to cook with. Most people still cook with vegetable oil or canola oil. Because that's the thing. That's what you do. Remember the Mazzola, the big giant jugs of corn oil, and that's what we used to deep fry in and that kind of thing? And here's the hard truth. You can have all the money in the world to try to heal yourself and to do everything that you can do. You could be a billionaire. But unless you know about the alternative treatments that are out there and the alternative supplements and the herbs and all the red light and all the pocket and vibration plates and all the stuff that I mentioned, none of this talk about expensive grounding mats even matters. If you don't know that it's there, then you don't know what to get. And this is how it stands right now. Here's a little tiny bit of insight on why things are the way they are with regard to our health and our healthcare industry. And this audio that Luke's going to play for you is going to be kind of an eye-opener and kind of speaks to what I've been talking about. Check this out.
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Don't let anyone tell you it's not possible. Lifestyle choices play a significant role in the development and progression of most chronic diseases. This means that an individual's choices could be pivotal in the prevention and possibly the reversal of chronic disease. Type 2 diabetes, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, obesity, and even several autoimmune conditions are all reversible. with just diet and lifestyle modifications. The problem is our modern medical system does not teach doctors how to reverse chronic diseases with diet and lifestyle changes. They are taught to treat the symptoms of chronic diseases with pharmaceuticals. That is the model of our medical system. How do I know this? Because most medical schools don't even require students to take a single course on nutrition. If you are living with one of these diseases, know that there is hope for reversal. Do not give up hope and do not let a doctor tell you that your only option is pharmaceutical medication.
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So, yeah, and this is what is kind of the crux of everything. This is the problem. This is why big pharma is such a corrupt institution. They purposely keep this information hidden so the average Joe can't access it. You can guarantee that anyone in government or big banking or big pharma or whatever, they're using all the best stuff. all the best stuff. They probably don't take their own medications and their own chemo and all their own stuff. They've probably got access to stuff that we've never even heard of before, right? And most people don't know where to even start. And you obviously have to start somewhere. So if you're dealing with some kind of a chronic issue, I strongly suggest that you Start researching. Go to places like, I know this sounds crazy, but go to places like Instagram or search stuff on DuckDuckGo or some other place that's not going to censor things, and you will find these kinds of things. You can find naturopathic doctors that will give you some insight and all that stuff. If you search Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, you're going to find stuff, but you won't find it all because they censor it. If a video starts to blow up on any of those platforms and it's regarding a subject like alternative medicine, they'll take it down. And if people have had great success with, you know, Soursop or, you know, oxygen therapy like hydrogen peroxide, 35% food grade, you know, hydrogen peroxide to oxygenate the blood, that kind of thing, they'll take it down because it's not science. It's not proven science. Fauci didn't approve it, so therefore, you know, you shouldn't take it. And it's all by design. I've said it before. They don't want you healthy. If everyone on the face of the earth was healthy and well and only ever died of old age because their little bodies just simply wore out, nobody would have a need for big pharma or medicine in general, and the entire industry would cease to exist. And they can't have that. President Trump did just announce that drug prices are to be reduced by 59%, as well as decrease in grocery and gas prices. So, okay, that's okay. I guess we'll be able to obtain all the poisoned food and the pharmaceuticals for less of our fake money. Yay. I think this administration is doing all that it can right now to help the American people to I don't know, to help with stuff. RFK Jr. is doing everything in his power, I think, to fix the health care system and the food industry, but it's slow going, and it'll take years, years that the good guys may or may not have, if they're even good guys. So I don't know. It remains to be seen. So I've got Sandra on the line. Sandra, what do you got for me?
SPEAKER 03 :
Ms. Karen, I was just talking to my girlfriend on Whidbey Island today. She renders beef to the tallow, and she adds cream and lavender oil and makes a face cream.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, that's what I do, too. Yeah, I render it, and then I soften it and whip it, and I add, like, Lang Lang or, yep, all the essential oils. Frankincense is really good for your skin. So, yeah, that's all we use now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I love it. Hey, just wanted to let you know that, gosh, timing is perfect. Thank you for all you do. God bless you, Karen. God bless you, too. Thank you.
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So, yeah, it remains to be seen if we have enough time for RFK Jr. to actually implement all the stuff that he wants to implement. But you never know. None of this may matter because we may become extinct just from lack of oxygen. I just read this headline this morning from the Climate Depot. It says, is an oxygen shortage going to replace the climate scare? Farewell to oxygen on planet Earth. NASA scientists predict Earth's atmosphere will lose its ability to sustain life. Photosynthesis will collapse as CO2 declines. Isn't that something? The article says that in a billion years, the Earth won't be able to sustain complex life. So you can go ahead and proceed with your dinner plans tonight. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, but It's just so ironic to me, though, that the climate alarmist lunatics have been screeching for so long and so loud for so many years about CO2 levels being the end of the world that they failed to consider that plants need CO2 to live and to perform photosynthesis. And the article also says that the sun's rays will get more intense as they have and for hundreds of years, and that's going to go on, and those intense increased sun's rays will alter CO2 molecules to such a degree that plants won't be able to use them. So that's, you know, like I said, it's a little ways off for sure. And then also I read another article today that I'm going to read to you because I think it's pretty interesting, and one thing that I did not mention was plastics. Now, everybody, like you can't drink tap water, so you've got to drink bottled water, okay? And bottled water is just as bad, just in a different way. It says here, this is from The Guardian, plastics and everyday objects may disrupt sleep in the same way as caffeine study finds. So this is just about sleep, but we know that microplastics are terrible for us anyway. But it says, chemicals in everyday plastics may disrupt the body's natural 24-hour sleep-wake cycle and circadian rhythm in a way similar to coffee, which increases the risk of sleep disorders, diabetes, immune problems, and cancer. New in vitro research shows. The study looked at chemicals extracted from a PVC medical feeding tube and a polyurethane hydration pouch like those used by long-distance runners. PVC and polyurethanes are also used in everything from kids' toys to food packaging to furniture. The findings showed for the first time how plastic chemicals probably wreak havoc on cell signals that regulate the body's internal clock, throwing it off by up to 17 minutes. The internal clock is incredibly important for physiology and overall health. Though more research is needed to know the precise consequences of exposure, said Martin Wagner, a study co-author and plastic chemical researcher with the Norwegian Institute of Science and Technology. The study adds to the increasing body of evidence that plastics contain compounds that cause a wide range of toxic effects. The authors wrote in a peer-reviewed study published in Environmental International. A fundamental shift in the design and production of plastics is essential to ensure their safety. The circadian rhythm is the molecular clock that regulates alertness and tiredness in relation to daylight and the dark. Shifting rhythms are linked to increases in the risk of obesity, dementia, and cardiovascular disease, among other issues. Research into plastic chemical toxicity most often focuses on how chemicals like, I don't know how to say this word, P-H-T-H-A-L-A-T-E-S. Phthalates, is that how you say that? The T is silent. I don't know. Phthalates and bisphenol impact the endocrine system and hormone-related effects, which can take years to manifest. The new paper looked for an impact through a different biological pathway cells. It checked for adverse effects on the adenosine receptor, which is a key component in cellular control of the internal clock that takes part in relaying signals that regulate circadian rhythm. The biological process of how the plastic chemicals affect the body is similar to caffeine, and its effect on the circadian rhythm and indices The eidosine receptor, caffeine deactivates the eidosine receptor, thus increasing the circadian rhythm and keeping us awake. The plastic chemicals activate the eidosine receptor but also have a similar effect in keeping us awake. The receptor is in the brain and sends signals to the body that say the sun is coming up, let's start the day. But when the adenosine receptor is activated by the chemicals, it may not relay the message directly. delaying the body's natural physiological processes while the process while the chemicals are not as potent as caffeine their impact on the cellular process happens much more quickly than plastics impacts on hormones what this means for body for the body is unclear but it's probably not good we don't know the significance of it and you could say oh it's just 15 minutes it's not that big of a deal but it's such a tightly controlled clock that it's a significant shift he added The study was done in vitro, meaning on human cells in a lab, and Wagner said the next step was to look at how the chemicals affect zebrafish, which have some similar physiological processes in their brains to humans. Future research will also look into which chemicals in plastic and PVC are affecting the sleep-wake cycle. PVC can contain any of 8,000 chemicals, some of which are not intentionally added but are byproducts of the production process. So the material is incredibly complex and difficult to manage. The findings of each study will be used to pressure lawmakers to enact regulations and to try to convince industry to remove the chemicals from the plastic, which this article itself says that you can't regulate them because you don't even know that they're there. You don't even know what they are. It's just these byproducts and everything else. So Chemicals, chemicals, chemicals. And we just can't escape it. So do your research. Find some great information out there to try to make yourself healthier in this increasingly toxic world that we live in. Thanks so much for joining me today on Shooting the Breeze in the fastest hour in broadcasting. I really appreciate you guys being here. If you want some private training, give me a call or don't give me a call. 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Barry Kite and Jeff Webster of Gundersen Capital Management provide insightful analysis on the latest stock market trends, highlighting the key earnings reports from companies like Netflix and Pepsi. Discover why the market continues to hit all-time highs and how broader economic factors, such as federal policies and upcoming workshops, are influencing investor sentiment. This episode is packed with professional insights and strategic advice for navigating the current investing landscape.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And happy Monday. This is Jeff Webster with Dunderson Capital Management. We're on standby here waiting for Barry Kite to join us. We're giving Bill a day off.
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I got you, Jeff.
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I had a different music cue this morning. Good morning and welcome to the Monday, July 21st edition of the Best Docs Now show. Barry Kite, planer analyst here at Gunderson Capital Management, sitting in for Bill today. And we have a little green on the screen, thankfully. We started out here with the Dow up 0.3 points, up 136 to 44,478. The highs continue for the S&P 500 up 32 points here to just over half a percent to 6,329. And the NASDAQ has topped 21,000, sitting at 21,050. Up 0.74%, just continuing to power through these all-time highs. We've got gold also up 1.15% to $3,389. We'll get into some of the tariff talk here a little later that's probably driving some of that up. And Bitcoin continues to hover around that $120,000 market, $118,000. And again, good morning and welcome to the Monday, July 21st edition of the Best Stocks Now show. I'm your host, Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gundersen Capital Management, taking the wheel for Bill today. And also, as we heard, we've got Jeff Webster on the show today, advisor here at Gundersen Capital. Good morning, Jeff, and thank you for the open.
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Good morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good morning. Yeah. You must have heard the music on your end. We'll get the music in my ear on my side, and we'll play with this board a little bit and get things rolling. How was your weekend?
SPEAKER 04 :
It was great. Great weekend. Certainly, we've got the heat is set in here in Charleston, South Carolina. But the good news is it's keeping the markets hot.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I mean, as Bill says, I never said that before in terms of the NASDAQ being above 21,050 points at the moment. So we'll take it. We continue to kind of have that melt up. And thankfully, we've got some earnings driving that narrative now versus just hedging. you know, a bunch of talking heads for that. I always get weary of that, especially in the summertime, that lull between, you know, the end of earnings and then kind of that lull in June-ish where, you know, things can kind of get off the rails depending on rhetoric out there, depending on, Just historically a time for lower volumes. You've got a lot of those traders heading to the Hamptons and everything else. Good news is we've got some earnings backing these all-time high moves that we've had over the last week or so.
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Absolutely. It's great to see. We've got some really nice earnings scheduled this week. And, you know, perhaps later in the show we can talk about earnings calendar for sure.
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Well, as we look, you know, as we'll kind of start back and look back at last week, as we mentioned, you know, markets just continue to be resilient no matter kind of what the uncertainty is out there. Continues, you know, good news is it looks like these all-time highs are now, of course, kind of being driven by earnings. Last week, we had the S&P was up 0.6%. We had the NASDAQ leading the way up 1.5% last week, and the Dow down 0.1%, so basically flat for the week. Of course, only 30 stocks making up that index. There can be some Some odd things that happened there, and really it's more of a historical data point that we use just because it's been around forever. Of course, the broader indexes like the S&P, the NASDAQ are kind of the ones that, of course, we're really focused on in terms of In terms of the week of review, when you look at the companies last week, and Bill kind of highlighted that as he does all the time in the newsletter, and he'll keep getting more and more information in terms of his S&P outlook and how earnings are shaping up today. this quarter. But last week, 90% of companies beat their earnings per share estimates. So in that sense, we'd say the CEOs are winning the earnings game, right? At least the early innings of the earnings game. We had 36 companies reported earnings last week, 33 of them beat earnings estimates, and even more importantly, 31% of them beat top-line revenue expectations. So from that standpoint, like I said, still early in the earnings game. I think we'll get, when I think I saw the number, I know you had it, Jeff, I think it was 135 or so companies in the S&P 500 will be reporting this week. And we'll highlight some of those kind of exciting names. I think there's a couple from the Magnificent Seven, if you will, and certainly a few that we own here at Gundersen Capital. Last week we had Netflix had a beat and raise, beat expectations on the top and bottom line. They also raised their full-year revenue expectations. Of course, the stock kind of pulled back a little bit last week. But in terms of the earnings report, it still looks pretty good.
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Yeah, the investors, I think, were looking for a little bit more there. I was a little surprised myself. I thought it was a pretty good report. But, you know, the market's like, yeah, we kind of were expecting a bit more out of Netflix. But I still think it's going to be, you know, it still continues to be a real stable market. position for a lot of folks out there.
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Yeah, and continues to be a disruptor in the space across that entire platform, whether it's in the actual movie theaters or on our television or even more and more on our phones in terms of streaming. We had what Pepsi reported last week, better than expected earnings report. We finished off with some of the financials in terms of the banks. A lot of the financials really beat their expectations. Bank of America topped earnings expectations. Wells Fargo kind of had a little bit of a mixed bag, but they did beat... They did beat on the earnings side of the thing. We had American Express, stronger than expected earnings. And they continued to actually say that credit quality remains strong. So as a lender and a consumer company, right, they give us a good pulse of consumer spending. And as we know, whether it's the U.S. or even globally, right, Really, the U.S. consumer really drives the market here and drives the market abroad, which I guess ties into why these tariffs are so important. We are really the consumer of the world, at least at this point in time. The old adage that when the U.S. sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold, I think still applies at this point. You still had great earnings from J.P. Morgan. Goldman Sachs, a company we own here at the firm, they beat earnings expectations. And one of the solid gain on the investment banking side, which is good for investment, right? I mean, you've been on the side of businesses selling to other businesses or selling to private equity. And those deals don't really happen in times of turmoil, right? they that that space really you know comes to life as as the market you know as the market as the economy continues to expand so it's good good to see good to see that and lastly I mean We don't discriminate here. Johnson & Johnson, right, they lifted their full-year outlook. Bill mentioned them. Usually they're on the not-so-attractive side of our discussion, but Bill threw them a bone last week. Of course, they lifted their full-year outlook in better-than-expected financials last week. And it looks like on the earnings front, as Bill always mentions, stock prices follow earnings. And last week was a good example of that. And, of course, we're just getting started here on the Monday edition of the Best Stocks Now show. And we'll be right back.
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Good morning and welcome to the Monday, July 21st edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital Management. And I've got Jeff Webster here with me, advisor here at the firm. We'll be... We'll both be in Bloomfield Hills, Detroit area, I guess, on August 5th and 6th and maybe the 7th. I know Edie's kind of filled things up there for the 5th and the 6th, for the 7th. And, of course, we've got Bill doing a workshop on. on Tuesday evening, and those are always a good time. You can kind of dive into Bill's brain and see what he's thinking, right? That's probably the best way to describe it. What do you think, Jeff?
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely, and we're happy to stick around another day if there's more people that would like to meet with us up there. Oh, yeah. Actually, we're heading up, Barry, two weeks from today is when we fly up, so we're looking forward to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and give Edie a call, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-BEST. uh best i think that's what two three seven eight if i'm going uh if i'm going from memory but uh but yeah give give her a call shoot us an email uh go to the website uh you can get that uh get that to her she's kind of the uh the queen of the schedule there so she'll get you she'll get you set up and uh whether it's for the workshop or whether it's in person with an hour meeting with us. Of course, we also have, I think today is the first day that we're back on in Atlanta, I believe. I think that's WGKA. That's 920 AM The Answer. uh in atlanta it's been uh you know been a while since we've been uh been uh been on the station on the station there uh we were on there for it was on there for a handful of years and uh i think the station changed formats and uh and so we Happy to be back in Atlanta and welcome those listeners there as well. From a market standpoint, we've got pretty much green across the board. Dow's up 0.3%, S&P's up a little over a half a percent, hitting all-time highs again there at 6,331. And we have the NASDAQ up 166 points, 0.8%, to 21,061. So great markets continue to hit some all-time highs. Interesting coming off of 2024. You know, I believe the market hit, I want to say it was about, don't quote me on the number, 56-ish all-time highs in 2024. And, of course, the market, you know, Shot out of a cannon the first month and a half of the year. Peaked out around February 18th. And then, of course, we had some of the Doge tantrums, the Tariff tantrums. Liberation Day went through. The market had over a 20% pullback, a pretty quick bear market. And now we're, if you blinked your eyes, now we're back making new all-time highs. So it's been an interesting 2025 so far. The end result, we'll take it, I guess, right? Might have needed a few tums along the way, but here we are. And good news is a lot of it at least recently has been driven by earnings. We'll kind of jump into a bit of an earnings preview here in a minute. Like we said, we've got 135 S&P 500 companies reporting this week. um in terms of uh you know in terms of from a market standpoint um you know we like to look we talked about uh you know last week uh hitting all you know hitting hitting new all-time highs when we get into the earnings calendar um you know today what we had verizon this morning i didn't I didn't see, I didn't get to catch if they actually, they're up 4%. So I'm assuming 4.19% to be exact. So I'm assuming that they posted, looks like a good revenue beat and ups their full year forecast there. So from a carrier standpoint, the stock has beat what, I guess before this report, they had beat seven out of the last eight quarters. So now they've beat eight out of the last nine. So good report from them. We got Cleveland Cliffs this morning. I think we get NXPI. It's NXP Semiconductors. We own a bond for them. I want to say that one might come out after the break or after the close today. Yeah, they report after market close today. Yeah, that one's been, you know, like I said, it's not a stock we own, but a name we own on the bond side, and the bond's been as advertised. So the thing in the bond world, you know, Good news is okay news. Bad news is what you don't want. So they've held up their end of the bargain. We had Domino's Pizza report this morning. That one, people were eating... Report-wise, I think same-store sales beat expectations. Stock's down just a little bit there, but... They've certainly, one of those turnaround stories that Bill's referenced over the last, what, 10, 15 years, that's actually maybe not the best pizza in the world, but certainly convenient. And from a stock standpoint, they've been tasty. If you look back at their returns, particularly in the app over the last, say, 10 years, Their stock price is performed maybe better than their product. Everybody's got their own taste buds there. On the back of that, usually when you're eating your pizza, we've got Coca-Cola reports tomorrow. That'll be interesting, particularly with the announcement last week of Trump mentioning that we're going to get real sugar. I guess we're going to turn all Cokes into Mexican Coke finally here in the U.S. I don't know where we're going to get the cane sugar from. I know the corn farmers aren't very happy out there in terms of... using real cane sugar instead of corn syrup. But that should actually be a pretty interesting call to see if they shed any light on that feature. I saw something where it may take a billion dollars or more for them to kind of rejigger their supply chains there. And then Wednesday we started getting into some more interesting stuff. I mean, you know, Tuesday also we get GM, Lockheed Martin, RTX, which, you know, so we get some little defense names there. Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we've got those big defense contractors, Lockheed, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, on General Dynamics will report before the market opens on Wednesday. Okay.
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Yep, and you can't have defense or wars without Philip Morris, so Philip Morris also reporting tomorrow. So we'll get just blazing through the first half of the show today. We'll get to some more earnings previews, and we'll get to the more exciting ones with Tesla and Alphabet reporting later this week. But stay with us, and we'll be right back for the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show.
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This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigators because there's something in the air.
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And welcome back to the second half of the Monday, July 21st edition of the Best Docs Now show. I'm Barry Kite, planter analyst here at Gunnarsson Capital, serving as relief captain for Bill this morning. And also we have... Jeff Webster, our vice president and advisor here at Gundersen Capital. And if you want to stay up to date with our thoughts on the market, get Bill's newsletter or live trading, full live trading for a few weeks, four weeks at GundersenCapital.com. Or if you'd like to have a discussion with myself, with Jeff, Feel free to give us a call, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. And Edie will get you set up with one of us. And always look forward to talking to folks out there. Of course, we've got... It looks basically just like we left the market the last two breaks. We've got S&P up over half a percent. Dow's up 0.3%. And the NASDAQ's up 0.84%. So... Those all-time highs in the S&P 500 and the NASDAQ are continuing to proceed. We'll see where we end up for the full day. But so far for the show, we're all in the green, Jeff.
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That's so great to see. Just awesome to see this momentum. And as we launch into the first few weeks of this serene season, hoping to see continued momentum as we kind of plow through our summer months.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and we've got, of course, earnings preview. Wednesday we get Tesla, which, of course, has been interesting for a number of reasons over the last few quarters, but they're set to report. Q2 earnings after the market closes on Wednesday. From a forecast perspective, as you can imagine, it's been a bit of a rough go for them. We've got, it looks like, streets forecasting a 22% drop in profits for the For the quarter, 12% decline in year-over-year revenue. From Q2 deliveries, they fell 14% to just over 384,000, where the consensus estimate was right at just under 444,000. So given that information, stocks down 21% year-to-date. It's still up 29% over the past 12 months, but certainly been the weakest contributor to the Magnificent 7. If you compare that in terms of year-to-date numbers, you've got what, NASDAQ, the NVIDIA, but it should be the NASDAQ. NVIDIA is up over 28% during that period. Microsoft's up 21%. Meta's up just under 20%. Amazon up just 2%. Obviously, they've been affected by some tariff talk along the way. And Google, actually, one of the reasons it's been added to the value portfolio in the last, what, few weeks or month or so, at minus 3% for the year to date. Apple down, this would be a fun fact, down 16% actually for Apple. Wow. Yeah, of course, tariffs having an effect there. Also, just from an AI standpoint, I was standing behind my 13-year-old, and we're talking about some player. I can't remember the player now, but who does so-and-so play for? And I'm like, I think he now plays for the Spurs, right, San Antonio Spurs. And he's like, well, let me ask Siri, right, because Siri's going to know, certainly knows more than I do. And so I asked the question, and they pulled him up as the Golden State Warriors like two years ago. I'm like, come on, Siri. I could ask Chad GPT, and you would get who he plays for now and probably get his background, who he's married to, all kinds of information.
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So just not a statistical significant survey, but I'm looking over the shoulder like certainly,
SPEAKER 03 :
they can come up with a better answer than an answer two years ago. But anyway, stock was down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Going back to Tesla real quick, I think what we'll see this week is in their announcement, I think we'll see some commentary that the board is happy that Elon – is now back involved, you know, with the company. I mean, we're all appreciative of, uh, you know, what he did with Doge. Some of us may not be, but, uh, but I think, I think we're going to try it at least. Exactly. I think we're going to see some type of messaging, uh, that, Hey, you know what shareholders, uh, our, our leader is now back fully engaged and, uh, I don't know if they'll use that to pad additional upside or to use it as some type of an excuse to say, hey, this is why maybe we're down a little bit. It's a positive.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's framing. We always talk about that earnings game. A lot of times the more important piece is just the actual earnings call. That's why we read through transcripts, earnings transcripts and everything else. But yeah, to me, if you may end up having profits down 22% and revenue down 12%, you want to hear the framing of the argument in that story. And I'm hearing... I actually heard someone talking about it today that Elon's back sleeping at the office and doing some – he's in there. And so what – I don't know if he referred to it as or someone referred to it as he's in manic mode, which for him is productive, right? He's getting – he's in there doing the work and kind of having his – getting his finger on the pulse of what's going on. So that will be certainly an interesting call there. They've only beat earnings. I always like to see how well they've played the earnings game. They've only beat earnings estimates and revenue estimates two out of the last eight quarters. So setting expectations, right, is a lot of times in the earnings game is important. As Bill and I were talking about last week, it's always important. you know, best to under-promise and over-perform versus, you know, versus the other way around, right, especially when it comes to earnings. But, you know, also what I think on we'll get, we get Alphabet. Is that, we get Alphabet on Wednesday? I think it's actually on Thursday.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wednesday, yeah, Wednesday we've got Alphabet. ServiceNow, I mean, SAP, my former employer's reporting tomorrow after market close. Chipotle. We'll be reporting Wednesday after close. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how some of those. Later in the week, we've got American Airlines.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, GEV is a name we own. Of course, one interesting here I see is QuantumScape because we've heard a lot about their battery talk lately again. That stock has done really well, I believe. ServiceNow, as you mentioned. T-Mobile, one we still own. Las Vegas Sands, which is a good barometer, not only of, you know, kind of the U.S. consumer, but also the Chinese consumer in terms of Macau. Thursday, we get the blast from the past. Intel, you know, talk about a stock that, you know, I think they've hit expectations, earnings expectations five out of the last eight quarters. That one, of course, an interesting note I saw there was that likely their foundry business is not going to reach break-even until about 2027. So just still I don't know if we've got much light at the end of the tunnel for that one. But we do get – you mentioned Delta, and we do get American Airlines on Thursday.
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Southwest as well.
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Southwest.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Southwest is going to be reporting. NASDAQ very reporting this week on Thursday before the market. So it's –
SPEAKER 02 :
nasdaq reporting on itself yeah that's right that's right we get uh we got railroads for bill union pacific uh csx will be and csx will be reporting this week so uh good uh and the the other one that i forget one of one remember we i forget who asked on our little text thread but Nokia reports this week, and I think one of us said, Nokia still exists? They still own a lot of patents if somebody wants to dive into that company.
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But Friday, pretty light. We get Phillips 66 is about the biggest name on Friday. So earnings talk really driving the market this week. Not a ton of economic news coming out. This week, of course, we'll get the Fed meeting next week. Well, we're done with the third quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show, and we'll be right back for the fourth and final segment.
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Go where you want to go
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And welcome back to the July 21st edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, planer analyst here at Gunderson Capital, sitting in for Bill today. And we've got Jeff Webster on the show as well, advisor here at the firm and our resident software tech guru. Of course, man, we'll get to in a minute, but man, Estera Labs, A-Lab, that's A-L-A-B, Just going off the charts today, up 16% to $118.80. I don't have any information as to what's driving that to 16% at the moment. I was looking if there's any new earnings or any new info. Of course, they're tied heavily with collaboration with NVIDIA, but yeah, just the one stock that that we own here at the firm that's leading the way today and on top of the list. Man, just... Great purchase there by Bill.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they provide some really strong capabilities, Barry, to help these AI data centers do what's called rack scaling, which means that some of the shared resources with memory and data And things of that nature can be done on a rack level as opposed to an individual server level. So they help optimize the efficiencies and costs associated with operating those types of environments. And certainly a very interesting play for the long-term use and operational efficiencies of those rapidly growing data center environments.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they're in the right place in terms of that ecosystem for sure. And that's, you know, you can obviously, if you want, you can follow along with us, follow along with Bill. You're welcome to go to GundersenCapital.com. You can sign up for Bill's four-week trial of the newsletter, Live Trading, where you'll get his daily e-mails. to stay in the loop but yeah a lab was one of those that we've they just been featuring so you know go out there get a copy of that newsletter this one you know they don't they don't always work out like that but uh what a you know what a beautiful uh beautiful looking chart there Of course, this week, the good news is we don't have a bunch of economic news this week. Pretty much, as we mentioned, just really focusing on earnings. We've got, from an economic indicator, we've got the LEI today. I haven't seen where that came in. I think it came out around 10 a.m. today. And we'll get some PMI numbers later in the week on Thursday. Of course, we'll always get that initial jobless claims on Thursday. And we get some durable goods orders on Friday. But the market will really be looking to, obviously, next week with Tuesday and Wednesday, the upcoming Fed meeting. We'll get the rate decision on Thursday. On Wednesday, from a market standpoint, the market's still pricing in about a 95% chance that the rate will stay unchanged. For those that are optimistic, that was close to 99% a couple of weeks ago. But the good news is we're getting closer to some type of rate change, we would guess. You've got about a 57-58% chance. of a 25% cut at the September meeting. So if we don't get one now, those odds go up next week. And, of course, I'm sure we'll have plenty of rhetoric battle, Trump versus Powell.
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Well, did you see, Barry, today the big news is that President Trump and Secretary Besson are kind of dividing and conquering. President Trump is kind of doing some muscle flexing with the European Union on the tariff issue. But Secretary of Treasury Scott Besant has called for, you know, an entire review of the Federal Reserve Board. So he has kind of stepped into that seat right now to kind of go after him a little bit. And, you know, a lot of interesting news there. relative to his perspective on uh you know what the fed you know sugar could be doing uh some of their inefficiencies you know he was uh saying geez louise they have a lot of smart phd guys over there and he goes frankly i don't know what they do um and he says anytime you have Highly paid people like that that are as smart as they are, but you're not exactly certain what types of outcomes they're delivering, it's a concern.
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Yeah, and I mean, you know, in any institution, right, I mean, to me, at least over the last, you know, probably 15 years, right, the Fed's really, you know, they kind of helped save us in 08-09. You can get some arguments, you know, for or against the Fed. I think overall they've done a, you know, they've done a decent job with the cards that they've been dealt, right, A lot of it, you know, a lot of the issues really been on the fiscal side where, you know, government's just spending, you know, too much money regardless of what party had been in office. But, you know, it's a it's that continuing continual discussion. And I don't think we'll kind of same thing with the tariffs. Right. I don't think we'll get. I don't think we'll get a ton of clarity on it necessarily any time soon. It would be interesting to see if – I'm just ready to see when there is a cut, if the rhetoric changes at all. So I'm kind of waiting for that 25-point cut, not just from a market perspective, but just from a dynamic perspective to see if that changes the narrative at all. But it's certainly an interesting piece. And all of that drives interest rates. And as we know, interest rates drive valuations and PE ratios. And so the one thing that the market's been most correlated to over time has always been interest rates. So the reason we're talking about the Fed so much is because they are the driver of at least short-term interest rates, and those types of things move the market. But, again, if you want to stay up to date with those thoughts on the market, get the newsletter. Come out and see us, listeners in Detroit. We'd love to see you August 5th, 6th, and 7th. We'll be at the Kinsley Hotel there in Bloomfield Hills. Looking forward to getting there. We'll be flying two weeks from today, I believe. Go ahead and go to GundersenCapital.com or give us a ring, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. We are here to be a resource for you. Hope everybody has a great day and stay well out there. Bye now.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You eat your treasure, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. Happy Monday right back at you. And be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you're there, make sure you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. That way you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. I am a little behind on email, so I'm going to be getting started. caught up on that. I had out of town guests, which was great, but did not get everything done that I wanted to get done last week. The text line I do want to hear from you is 720-605-0647. So be sure and text me as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. Through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's not compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, childhoods, or lives. And force can obviously be a weapon, but it can be policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The agenda of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites played out through the United Nations, this legislature here in Colorado, this governor. And it can be land use codes, zoning regulations, easements, all of those kinds of things. Now, remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not personalities. Now, of course, we'll mention the people that are pushing issues, but we really want to stay out of all the eighth grade girl fighting that can happen in politics in particular. Thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. I really do appreciate them as well. Our word of the day is analogy. And it could be a similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar. So it could be a comparison based on such a similarity and a correspondence in function or position between organs of dissimilar evolutionary origin of structure. And I pulled the word analogy because yesterday at church, the pastor was talking about some words in analogy. I do know that word, to draw an analogy between things. But there's some other words I'm going to be using this week that I didn't know. So I've got to think about how to use the word analogy in a sentence today. I'm going to work on that. The quote of the day is, At the end of the show is from Tom Landry. I was looking for cowboy quotes. As I mentioned, I was at – and so Tom Landry was the coach of the Dallas Cowboys and a great success. He was a football coach, player, and World War II veteran, and he's regarded as one of the greatest head coaches of all time. And he – Let's see, he was the coach of the Dallas Cowboys in the NFL for 29 seasons. And during his career, he created many new formations and methods. So I have his quote at the end of the show because we like to put the quote of the day out on social media. And Zach needs something shorter than what I am going to share with you. So that's going to be at the end of the show. But I mentioned I had family in. from an out-of-town guest and ended up going down to the Flying W Ranch in Colorado Springs. And I've never been there all these years that I've lived in Colorado. I've never been to the Flying W Ranch. And it's a chuckwagon dinner and a show. They had Native American dancing. It's really delightful. And some people had given me a gift certificate for that, so we did it. But this was on the back of the ticket. And it's my creed by Dean Alfonge. And it's a little long, but I thought it was terrific. He said, I want to take the calculated risk to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence, the thrill of fulfillment to the state calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any earthly master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud, and unafraid, to think and act myself, enjoy the benefits of my creations, and to face the world boldly and say, this with God's help I have done. All this is what it means to be an American." And I thought that was absolutely amazing. And again, I highly recommend that you check out the Flying W Ranch in Colorado Springs. It is absolutely beautiful and I would highly recommend that. Next thing, we've been going through the 50 wins in the one big beautiful bill. This is from White House, thewhitehouse.gov, and this is the last of them. Number 46, it creates permanent fees that illegal immigrants must pay for their applications so Americans aren't saddled with covering these costs. These fees will bring in over $77 billion to cover adjudication costs and fund immigration processes and enforcement actions. Number 47, it protects family farmers. The bill prevents the greedy death tax from hitting 2 million family-owned farms who would otherwise see their exemptions cut in half and cuts taxes on farmers by over $10 billion. Number 48, it ends abusive financing practices in Medicaid by freezing existing provider taxes and prohibiting new provider taxes. This ensures that states cannot improperly increase the federal government's cost share of a state Medicaid program at the expense of taxpayers. Number 49, it reigns in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. This was the brainchild of Senator Elizabeth Warren. It's long functioned as another woke, weaponized arm of the bureaucracy with minimal accountability or oversight that leverages its powers against certain industries and individuals disfavored by the so-called elites. And last, number 50, it rolls back harmful Biden-era regulations that increase cost and administrative burdens with limited flexibility for states. These burdensome regulations, such as federal staffing mandates at nursing homes, lead to closures, reduced access to care, and increased costs, particularly in areas already overwhelmed by labor shortages. So that's the 50 wins in the One Big Beautiful Bill per WhiteHouse.gov. And it is Monday, so it's time for our weekly update from Jody Henze with Mint Financial Strategies. Jody, happy Monday. Good morning, Kim. Happy Monday to you, too. Well, there is a lot going on out there. And we had talked with Lorne Levy with Polygon Financial Mortgage Specialists last week about this pressure on Jerome Powell at the Fed and also pressure to reduce interest rates. What is your ear to the ground telling you, Jody Henzey?
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Well, I think it's time. We haven't lowered interest rates since last December. I know that a lot of my clients are eager. And I think the American people could use a little bit of relief. So I'm hoping that they decide to take some action when the next meeting comes up. So I think they should do it.
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And what I find interesting, Jody, is normally at least what I've learned in all these conversations with Lorne is that the Fed looks at data and then makes a decision on inflation, unemployment. But yet it looks like now Powell has also tried to use a crystal ball regarding keeping interest rates higher because he said concern of tariffs and whatever. What's your thoughts on that?
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Yeah, I mean, it seems like the target is constantly moving. I mean, you know, at one point in time, it's inflation and then it's jobs. You know, inflation has been down consistently, you know, really since Trump took office. And, you know, I mean. When we think about interest rates, having low interest rates in a capitalist system is just a way for businesses to have access to capital. It allows them to hire more people, to invest in their business, to allow the economy to grow. For individuals, it allows them to buy houses, start a business, pay off debts. So when it comes to the data that they're looking at, you know, it feels like there's constantly a moving target.
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Well, it does. And as you're talking about this, another thing that I've learned is I look at all of these apartment buildings that are being built up and down the transit corridor. And what I've also learned is that many of these apartment complexes have received favorable financing from from the federal government what that means is lower interest rates than what everybody else has to pay that doesn't seem fair so it seems that what should happen is everybody should should have the same access to capital yes oh i completely agree and again it's kind of like this catch-22 because when we're looking at inflation the biggest driver of inflation is housing
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And when you uncover or open up the hood, the biggest driver of housing is rent. And the reason that rent is going up is because people can't afford to buy. Well, why can't they afford to buy? Because interest rates are so high. So it's this vicious cycle. Well, if we lower interest rates, then more people can buy, less people will have to rent, and that will bring inflation down. Aha.
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I like your thinking on that, Jody Henze. Now, the Fed meets, is it this Wednesday they meet?
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I think it's the 28th, 29th, something like that. And then they're supposed to come out with their decision on the 30th. OK, so it's about a week out then on that.
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And I think it makes a lot of sense to lower interest rates as well. This would really, I think, be a boost to the economy. And I'm just thinking about young families, how this would really help them, Jody Henzey.
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I agree. I agree. We're not looking for something that's going to change the world. But, you know, using an analogy, we're just looking for, you know, giving a runner just a little sip of water. That's it.
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I love that. And you're always so good about using the word of the day too, Jody Henze. At Mint Financial Strategies, you help people get to their financial freedom. I read this quote from the Flying W Ranch. And as I was reading it, I was thinking about you and economic freedom and lower taxes, lower interest rates, people being able to keep more money in their pocket is what then empowers people to go after their hopes and dreams. and you can really help people put together that plan to do so.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. The USMC Memorial Foundation is getting ready for their 48th anniversary, which will be August 23rd. It will host a special performance by Dave Bray, and the tickets are on sale now. And, of course, all of the proceeds go to the Memorial Foundation. as they maintain and are working to raise the money for the remodel of the memorial. And you can get more information about all of that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. First headline to get to, this is from Town Hall, and this is absolutely huge. It says, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard made explosive claims that top officials from the Obama administration orchestrated a coordinated effort to sabotage President Donald Trump's 2016 campaign and later his presidency in what she's calling a treasonous conspiracy. Gabbard alleges that powerful political insiders weaponized intelligence agencies and spread false narratives about Russian collusion, not to protect democracy, but to block an outsider that they couldn't control. Goes on to say, and this was yesterday, that Tulsi Gabbard revealed what she calls striking evidence from newly declassified documents released by her office on Friday, claiming they expose a coordinated Obama-era effort to set the stage for the Trump-Russia collusion narrative following the 2016 election. She described the revelations as historic, pointing to what she believes is overwhelming proof of a politically driven plot against Donald Trump. The effect of what President Obama and his senior national security team did was subvert the will of the American people, undermining our democratic republic and enacting what would be essentially a years-long coup against President Trump, she said on Fox News Sunday Morning Futures. It's worse than even politicization of intelligence. It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama's and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump," she continued. Gabbard alleged that former President Obama and his top national security officials knowingly advanced false intelligence linking Russia to President Trump's 2016 victory, even though prior assessments reportedly contradicted that claim. She argued that this effort not only misled the public, but also worked to undermine the results of a democratic election, amounting, in her words, to a year-long coup against a legitimately elected president. says creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia had helped Donald Trump get elected contradicted every other assessment that had been made previously in the months leading up to the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia had neither the intent nor the capability to try to hack the United States election. So the effect of what President Obama and his senior national security team did was subvert the will of the American people, undermining our republic, and enacting what would be this coup on Trump. This is absolutely huge. She went on to say she plans to forward all the uncovered documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI as part of a criminal referral. The evidence released by Gabbard's office suggests potential wrongdoing by several high-ranking former officials, including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former CIA Director John Brennan, former FBI Director James Comey, and former National Security Advisor Susan Rice, along with Obama himself. This is absolutely huge. One other thing regarding this Russian collusion narrative, and I need to go back and find this in one of the Trump-Hillary Clinton debates, is I remember when she threw this out regarding Russia and the election, and I thought, this is very odd. And so I think with artificial intelligence, hopefully I can easily find that. I've never really used artificial intelligence, so I'll have to have Zach and Joe probably help me with that. But I felt that that was something that was very, very odd. And so this is going to be this is this is absolutely huge that a former president would and his top officials would do what Tulsi Gabbard said that they had uncovered. So stay tuned. This is pretty amazing. Next thing, and this is behind a paywall if you go to the Denver Post. But somebody sent me over where I was able to get it online. And this is also a big deal. It says consultants sought access to voting machines. This consultant claiming to work for the White House called several Republican county clerks in Colorado last week seeking third-party access to secure voting equipment, election officials told the Denver Post. At least 10 Republican clerks were contacted by consultant Jeff Small, officials said Wednesday. Small, who has Colorado political connections, told the clerks that he was working on the project for the White House and the U.S. Departments of Justice and Homeland Security. And he said he wanted the clerks to let an outside party access voting equipment to identify gaps. He also requested access because President Donald Trump's administration was frustrated with the slow rollout of an executive order issued this year. Trump's order sought greater federal control over elections, although a federal court last month blocked it. All of the clerks contacted by Small rejected the request, election officials said. Unauthorized access to voting equipment is illegal under state law, and for some clerks, the request immediately prompted thoughts that it amounted to the type of conduct that sank former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters, who's now serving a prison sentence. I'm sitting here going there's a person spending nine years in prison here in Colorado for doing the exact same thing, said Steve Schleicher, the clerk and recorder in El Paso County. Says Small connected Schleicher with a Homeland Security official who sought access that Schleicher likened to hacking into voting equipment. Justin Grantham, the clerk and recorder in Fremont County, said Small called him July 9 and was looking for Republican clerks in Democratic states that would be in Democrat states. I have to remember, not Democratic, Democrat states. that would be willing to work with the White House and Department of Justice for bringing a third party to evaluate the security of voting equipment. This is all kind of messy, I would say, regarding this. And apparently, small is now associated with the 76 group, which is Josh Pendry's group. And this is going to be very interesting to see how this whole thing plays out as well. So that is the next headline that I wanted to hit. This next one is from the Denver Gazette. And Denver releases a revised $935 million Vibrant Denver Bond Project list. This is unbelievable, as if Denver residents are not taxed enough. It says this bond package is a general obligation bond package, which what that means is a general obligation bond actually has... claims on people's property to make sure that those property taxes pay a general obligation bond says this new version now includes additional input from members of the denver city council johnston office said in a news release but further discussions will continue in coming weeks when we had jason bailey on last week with no new debt citizens for no new debt I had mentioned a headline that I'd seen that said that some of the Denver City Council members seemed to be pushing back potentially on this bond request. And Jason said, well, I think that we'll probably see some conversations about this and that ultimately they'll probably support it. So anyway, it says we're continuing to work on perfecting this bond package and making sure that what we refer to voters matches what residents have told us is most important, City Council Pro-Tim Diana Romero-Campbell said. This week, we've added several important projects across the city, including a future recreation hub. and Skate Park in southeast Denver. If approved by the council before August 25th, registered voters will see these questions on their ballot this November. So stay tuned on that as well. And we are no new task. I really... So no new taxes and no new debt, for sure no new debt. And so we'll have to continue to shed light on all of this. And we do that because of our sponsors. And if you're buying or selling a home, you want to make sure that you have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's kimmonson.com. We have Lauren Fix on the line. She is Car Coach Reports and everything regarding our freedom of mobility and what we have seen with the assault upon our gas-powered vehicles. is that it is really an assault upon our freedom of mobility. And so there's been this push on electric vehicles with these incentives. And she recently published this electric vehicle meltdown truth bomb from industry insiders. Lauren Fix, welcome to the show.
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Thanks for having me. Yeah, there's been a lot of changes going on. Some of it's from the big, beautiful bill. Some of it is some of the executive orders that President Trump has done. Some are from the CCR, which is the Congressional Review Act. There's been a lot of positive things happening to the auto industry that was struggling so badly under Joe Biden. And this is actually good for us. If you're looking for a new car, you don't have to buy it today. But if you're looking for an electric car, you probably want to jump on that before the end of September because selection is going to start getting very limited. because people that want them are going to buy them. If you need them for a tax write-off for your business, maybe you owe a lot of federal taxes. This would be a way to help soften that. But if you're thinking, I don't want an electric car, don't worry. There's still going to be a lot of great choices, and you can thank President Trump for that.
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So what's this going to do to the electric vehicle market? For example, Tesla, what's going to happen? Are these companies going to survive, or what do you think?
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Some will survive and some will fail. I mean, you can go through every single vehicle, but starting with Elon Musk and Tesla. I think I call this kayfabe, and I've discussed this with you before. Kayfabe is what you used to see in wrestling when we were kids. You know, you saw that it seemed so manufactured, you know, so scripted. And it seemed sort of like that when... Elon Musk was in the White House, all seemed good, and then he says, oh, now he's supposedly mad about the $7,500 tax credit. In reality, he's not. And I'll tell you why. If you're looking at an electric car, Tesla will survive for multitudes of reasons. One of them is maybe that tax credit goes away at the end of September. He's still in business. He's producing here in the U.S. So the one big beautiful bill is allowing for a relief. for um for federal taxes and that's excellent so that tax break will go to cars that are built in the U.S that are sold new and that's up to a ten thousand dollars of of deduction off of interest on your loan and so you could purchase or lease a Tesla or any car made and finished here in with most of the parts being U.S you will get that tax deduction so my girlfriend just bought a Genesis uh, GB 70 just, uh, Saturday. And I said, did you ask about the tax credit? She said, yes, because it's assembled in Birmingham, Alabama. And so she's getting the tax credit. So you have to ask the dealers. They're very aware of it because they know how to sell cars. And so they're going to give you every incentive they can to get you to buy that brand before you leave. She was looking at another vehicle that was a German made vehicle and But the problem was it wasn't assembled here. And she said and then she would have lost. She wouldn't have gotten that extra credit. So those kind of things are happening. But as far as Elon Musk and electric brands that you either purchase online like Lucid and Rivian, Lucid, I think, is going to have a lot of struggles coming forward, which is a shame because it's such a cool car. They're starting to partner with Uber and some of the other companies. autonomous robo taxis that you're going to start seeing slowly rolling out because there's no regulation on that yet. And I'll be covering that in an upcoming story on Car Coach Reports. And that's very interesting to monitor because there's no regulation right now. It's a state-by-state regulation. Brands like Rivian, they supply all those Amazon ugly little vans that deliver your packages. So that may keep them alive. As far as the vehicles themselves, they might sell a few. But we're going to see a big drop-off is the major brands, the Ford, GM. And any other brand that's selling electric cars, they're doing because they had to. They were forced to make something that consumers didn't want. And there's so many of them sitting on lots. Go buy a Ford dealer, for example. You'll see a ton of lightning trucks and a ton of Mach-Es. Those are their electric SUV. Why aren't they selling? Because the range doesn't work for most people. You're in Colorado. It gets cold. When it gets cold, the charging takes longer, it shortens the range, and it doesn't work for everyone. Maybe you charge at home and you just go back and forth to work. It's a short distance. You can charge at work. That works perfectly. But because of the limitations for most of America and the lack of charging stations, They're sitting on lots. So once that tax credit goes away, I think you're going to watch a lot of brands cutting way, way back. They're not talking about it publicly. But when we have these conversations, we go to these we call drive events where we get to drive the newest version of whatever brand or model. I always try to sit next to one of the executives and just have a casual chat off the record, as we say. So I won't say anybody's names or brands. But I will tell you, they're all very aware of this going on. They're all planning ahead. And within the next two years, you're going to see a lot of hybrids, which means you get the electric part when you need it, maybe up to 30 miles of range, and then it'll transition to gas. And the electric part only works below 30 miles an hour. So it's good for getting you off the light, onto an on-ramp, making a pass. But after that, you're back on the gas. And that will give you good fuel efficiency. I will forewarn you, though, hybrid vehicles are wonderful. But they're great to lease because once you're outside the warranty and something goes wrong, that expenses essentially two engines. You've got a motor and you've got a gasoline engine. And you need to keep that in mind. If you're leasing, fantastic. Lease a new car for three years, you'll be happy as a clam. But if you're thinking about buying... That's one thing I fair warn people. But overall, as far as electric vehicles, Tesla will survive. They own 60% of the market. Number two in electric vehicles in the U.S. is Hyundai. And that's Hyundai, Kia, Genesis all under the one group. They're going to cut way back on their offerings, but they're only going to sell what they make money on. And none of them make money on that. So it's going to really cut back on the offerings. You'll probably see like the Kona EV and small little vehicles that are electric, much like the Nissan Leaf, which hasn't been doing that well, but they have a new version coming out in September.
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So, Lauren, right now, this window regarding EVs, someone could get the $7,500 tax credit and then also this $10,000 on interest on a loan. Can they get both those things?
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no i don't think that's going to be the case because i don't think any of these electric vehicles other than tesla maybe on tesla you could probably do that actually if you're really smart and you really you'd have to work it properly if you purchased a tesla you'd probably get both you'd get the big beautiful bill discount plus the tax credit if you could swing that boy you'd be paying nothing for the vehicle especially if you owe a lot of federal taxes If it's state taxes, again, check with Colorado, because they said they're giving you $2,000 or $2,500, but if the funds run out, and the funds have run out in California, New Jersey, and many other states, you'll go to apply on your taxes and there'll be no funds left to offset that. So make sure you double check that. But if you're smart, you can also get a charging station, which is a $1,200 credit that goes away at the end of the year. So if you're really looking to work the system, this could be to your advantage.
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Okay. And how long does it take to charge a vehicle these days?
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That depends on each vehicle. So there's different charging infrastructures. So if you have access to, you own a Tesla, you can charge up to 80%, which is typical. It's not like your phone where you plug it in at night and it's 100%. Well, it usually can get up to 80%. To get that extra 20% takes a lot longer. So most of these batteries like you to cycle up to 80%. So you can go in 20 minutes on a fast charger, you can have 80% of your battery. So if you have access to that. Now, a lot of it, it's called the NAX system, which is N-A-C-S. A lot of brands like Ford and GM and Hyundai and Kia and a bunch of other brands have I think Mercedes-Benz has it now. Volvo has it on their 26-model lineup, which they are cutting back on their lineup here in the U.S. because they're owned by a Chinese car company called Geely, and that's a problem. But overall, if you're looking at charging quickly, there's two different versions. There's an 800-volt architecture, super, super fast, like Tesla, Mercedes-Benz, and their EQ line. Many of the fast chargers, which includes Hyundai and Kia and Genesis, Then you've got the 400-volt architecture that's a little slower. It's going to take you about 40 minutes to charge to 80%. So if you've got the time and you want the savings, that would be like the Fords, the GM, the Nissan, Latham, things like that, where it's a little slower charge, a Toyota BZ. They're going to be a little slower to charge, but you'll still get your charging. If you can sit at home, this is where it's long. It can be between $11,000. And 14 hours on a dryer outlet. Not your regular wall outlet, like on a special charging port. That's a long time. I'm never home for 11 hours where I sit around going, well, I'll just wait for the car to charge. Some people are. Some people are home all day long and then they go out and get their kids from school and all that. So make sure that you look into the infrastructure. If you can put a charger in your home and it must be installed by a certified electrician and you have to, you must let your insurance company know. If you don't let them know that you've installed this and God forbid you have a fire, you will only get about 80% of the coverage in your home. And there's tons of lawsuits across the country with people who failed to let their insurance company know they had a fire at their home. burned part of their house and they did not get all of the money that they thought they were going to get from their insurance policy. So please contact your insurance agent if you are plugging in an electric car in your home.
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So... Lauren Fix, what we are seeing here in Colorado is a public policy that's bumping up against really freedom of mobility. And it's not just Colorado. I know that many different municipalities are trying to get people into rental units, apartments, up and down, transit-orientated corridors. Mm-hmm.
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And then also you've seen this push California, Colorado to push people into EVs now. And we also are having in Colorado, in Denver, that I think that they're starting to approve some apartment buildings with no parking spaces anymore. And this freedom of mobility and so pushing people to EVs, but if you're in one of these apartment buildings, there's no way that there's enough charging stations in these apartment buildings for people to charge their cars. This is a bumping up against really freedom of mobility for people.
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Absolutely. And you are correct. So while you're looking at the push and the pull, they're actually tricking people. And this is a problem. So look at this new 10 minute cities. You don't have to go anywhere. You can go down from your apartment. You can get your coffee, your dry cleaning. There's a grocery store. Everything you need is right here. But everybody needs to get in a vehicle at some point to go somewhere, whether it's to the airport or whatever it might be. And or. Run an errand or whatever it is. The problem is if you have no place to park your car, that means you have to park your car off-site. And a lot of these apartment buildings are being built without any parking. So that doesn't mean that you have a parking lot outside. That may mean no parking at all. So that forces you to take an Uber. Now, that may work. That may not work, but mass transit doesn't always work on your schedule. It doesn't get to your exact destination, especially if it's like a doctor appointment and you've got your kids or you take your dog someplace. There's a lot of limitations. So people are very unhappy with that. It sounds great on the surface. It sounds like, oh, I don't need a car. I'm going to save money. That's good until you need to go somewhere, and then you realize it's going to be expensive because Ubers and Lyfts and all these type of robo-taxi type things are expensive. And it adds up quickly if that's your only form of transportation. I used to live in Manhattan. I lived in a pre-war building. There was absolutely no parking. You parked on the street. We all fought for parking spots. There was offset parking. In other words, two days a week, you had to be on the other side of the road. And if you weren't, you got a ticket. And it wasn't a low ticket. It was like over $100. Or they'll tow your vehicle if they can't clean the street. So this is partly what they do to make it difficult for you. It's sort of along the lines of road diets. All those four lane roads that became two lane roads with a center turning lane and a bike pad all sound wonderful. But you have snow like I do. Other than Buffalo, New York, we have snow. And when it's snowing, people aren't using the bike pads. And so what ends up happening is people get very frustrated. You watch them passing across the center lane. You watch them passing in the bike lane. And this is part of what they did. They did this to frustrate people to say, I'll just take the bus. Well, the bus doesn't work to get everyone to where you need to be. It does not work for everybody in what we all do every single day. And everyone has a different lifestyle. And then with the lack of infrastructure for charging, especially in downtown areas, that means you'd have to drive off-site someplace to get charging, assuming someone didn't just park their car there for the night. Assuming that charger works, which I have found a lot when I travel all around the country, we'll get an electric vehicle to test. and we always find an electric charging station and we get there and there's like four or five chargers and there's always someone who just parked their car and they're gone i don't know if they're coming back i don't know if they're right there they're certainly not within eyesight range then there's always one or two that aren't working and that's a problem and i've had problems with brand new cars with charging stations at work where you plug it in and it says will not charge to this vehicle and it's not a tesla charger it's just because of the relationship of some of these vehicles the software they have and some of these charging stations And you have to pay for charging. So I could wait while all chargers are full, waiting for someone to come back to their vehicle. They don't care if it costs them extra for leaving it there plugged in and it's fully charged. That means I have to wait or I have to find another charging station. And it causes charging anxiety. So before you think electric vehicles are the answer, look into it and talk to people that have EVs. Not just one, but many people. Most people are frustrated and they're not going back to it.
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It's really about freedom of mobility is ultimately what it comes down to. We're going to continue the discussion with Lauren Fix, Car Coach Reports. You can find her Car Coach Reports at substack.com. And freedom of mobility has been, it's inherent to freedom, I think, to be able to go where you want to, when you want to. And Americans like that. And that has been really important. under attack. And we see that the Trump administration is trying to get this, I think, turned around. So we will continue the discussion. And all of this happens because of our great sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out the website for the Center for American Values. has started a new podcast series, and you'll want to check that out. He has a great perspective on some of these really important issues, and you can find that by going to the website of AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. Talking with Lauren Fix, you can find her at CarCoachReports at Substack.com. We're talking about EVs. And you recently published this, Lauren, that the deep state strikes again. Judge blocks Trump from cutting EV cash. So what's the latest on that?
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Right now, every time President Trump signs an executive order or even when he signed the big, beautiful bill, little segments of that, each of these crazy federal judges who are always appointed by Obama or by Biden say, oh, no, you can't do that. So when can a local judge or a federal judge from the state say, overpower what the Supreme Court and the president wants. We elected the president. He won by a large margin in both popular vote and the Electoral College. Therefore, we as the people have told him, do what you say you're going to do. And this judge is like a child on a playground who's mad that you won't play with them. And they are doing everything they can to make it more difficult. And the funny thing is, is Trump knew this was coming. And he's got a staff of high quality attorneys and someone like Stephen Miller. I love listening to him. He is just brilliant. And he just says, no problem. We got this. And then he just makes these federal judges look like fools. And the Supreme Court comes down on them. What we need to do is remove these federal judges. And the only way that's going to happen is because they're stepping outside their boundaries. It'd be like a first grade teacher going to the first, fourth grade class and telling them what to do. That's not your class. Go do what you're supposed to do. And instead, they're putting their nose in someone else's business. So this is pretty much the same thing. But what happens is we need to get rid of these federal judges. And the only way to get them to step down or force them to step down is one way. And that means we would have to win on the midterms. If we can get more House of Representatives, including from the state of Colorado, we can take over more of the Senate. We can pass a lot of this. If we lose in the midterms and more Democrats come in, they're going to waste tons of time with lawfare going after President Trump for silliness, trying to do the same. We're going to say we're going to impeach him, the same BS we went through last time. And so it's really important that while you think we got Trump in office and we've got a lot of good people, there are a lot of people that need to go. There's a lot of people that need to be impeached. removed that are on the Republican side that are really not. They're pretending to be one of us that want freedom, but they really don't because they're getting paid on the side by a lobbyist. So a lot of this stuff, we have to start opening our eyes and we have to go and vote in the midterms in order to get rid of judges like this. who are stopping the agenda that we the people voted for. We voted for this. We weren't appointed. You know, we didn't appoint someone. He appoints lawyers, and a lot of these federal judges are appointed. So we need to clean house so that when President Trump is done with his term, I mean, I know Steve Bannon says he's going to run again. I don't know what's going to happen, but whoever is the next president will put it that they can get through the agenda that the people ask for, not what some individual wants.
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Well, and what we are seeing, I think, with these judges is that they're trying to put sand in the gears to get to the midterm elections. And their hope is to either take the House or the Senate or both, because if that happens, then they basically can stop the Trump agenda. which the Trump agenda is focused on helping everyday Americans thrive and prosper. And when everyday Americans thrive and prosper, people across the world thrive and prosper, Lauren Fixx.
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Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, that's exactly what they're trying to do. They're trying to slow walk everything, including some of the appointees. I know that President Trump posted over the weekend, hey, don't go on vacation in August. Appoint these people for us so that we can get this government rolling at a higher level. But you can see what he's done already is quite dramatic. I mean, compared to what we had, I just saw a report this morning that I was kind of surprised that Buttigieg, who was in charge of the Department of Transportation, mind you, that's my area of expertise. that he spent $80 billion on all these DEI grants and to delay air traffic control upgrades, which we need, not just at your airports, but on a total U.S. basis. I've been on airplanes where we've said we've had to redirect. I've been on airplanes where there's no traffic controller. I mean, it's scary, and then you hear about it afterwards. You're thinking, oh, great, I was on that plane, or I know people that were on that plane, or I could be on that plane. And then we're seeing things even like the Alaska Airlines said last night during the night that they're not going to fly. All this is because the previous administration was wasting money on silliness instead of things that protect people, whether it be the roads or in the air or on the rails. And this is the kind of thing that getting President Trump back, you know, the support he needs on the midterms is going to be so critical. I know you talk about it, not with me typically, but with other guests. It's going to be really important not to ignore the midterms and to get out there and vote like we did for President Trump.
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Yes. And so changing gears, no pun intended, is Jenny texted me. I see all these electric bikes and I was talking with someone that said they're actually pretty dangerous and. In fact, I was on an airplane and was sitting next to a woman who said that this was one of the first times that she had flown because she had broken her back on an electric bike. But she said they're giving tax credits for electric bikes. I did not realize that.
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Oh, yeah, that's part of the food judge program. They're trying to get people out of cars. Like you were saying, apartment buildings that have no garages. Well, you can get around on a scooter or a bike. They're very dangerous. I know they're all over the city in Denver. They're also all over the city in New York. And every city I've been to, every major city, and they just dump the bikes. And you can trip over it. I've almost tripped over one in Austin, Texas myself. But they just dump the bikes and go because they're rentals. They're like a line wire or something where you go from one bike, you rent it, then you use it, and you leave it. It sounds great on the surface, but a lot of people think that they can drive on the streets and drive on the sidewalks. It's very dangerous to the people. We've had a lot of incidents and a couple deaths where these scooters run in front of cars and they think that the car is going to stop. You don't have the right of way. It's the same thing as if you're walking. Cars have the right of way. You ride against traffic so they can see you, but people don't. People that ride these bikes, ride them on the sidewalks. It's extremely dangerous. And breaking your back is is a wake-up call to, hey, you've got to be really careful on these things. And no one wears helmets, even though we're supposed to. But what I find also interesting, and you'll notice this now that I mentioned it, there's a lot of people that have these bicycles. They're bicycles with these big tires. Those things are really expensive. They're over $1,000 a piece. Even with a tax credit, who's funding these? Because I see a lot of people that have them that you might question how they have them. I'm trying to be nice on how I present this, but... There's a lot of people who maybe come from other countries, shall we say, that somehow have these bikes given to them. Who's paying for that? Is that our tax dollars? I'd like to know that. And there's no way to find out because everyone seems to have them. I don't have one. You probably don't have one. But they're everywhere. So keep in mind that there's going to be a lot of new regulations coming out. New York City has tried to regulate removing these electric scooters. because people are getting hurt. They're jumping in front of cabs. I mean, you can't hit the brakes fast enough. And you as the driver are responsible. You're like, I couldn't move that. Nobody could move that fast. And unfortunately, when someone gets killed or hurt, It's very serious, and it falls on you as the driver as well as them, the scooter rider.
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But also, even if you have the right-of-way as a driver, if you run into somebody and hurt them, there's still something that happens to you, even if you were not in the wrong on that. We've got about 20 seconds left, Lauren Fix. Quick wrap-up on this.
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Okay, I've got a lot of new content coming out. I just posted a story about the big beautiful bill and where you can save money and what qualifies. So you can check it out on my sub stack or you can go to my YouTube channel. If you the videos on all of that car coach reports, if you're looking for car reviews, I review everything electric, not electric, whatever it might be. It lives on cars and car smarts. I'm also gonna be putting a story out this week. That's how automakers are asking Washington to get out of the way so they can get some new regulations to remove some of the regulations to make cars less expensive. You're going to see a lot of new content coming out. So, you know, please make sure to subscribe, follow. We appreciate the support. I'm a one man show, so it's all being done. I work till three o'clock in the morning almost every day. Bless you. Much appreciated.
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Bless you, bless you, Lauren Fix. And again, it's always great to have you on the show. CarCoachReports at Substack.com. You can get all of that information. So great, great work. Our quote for the end of the show is from Tom Landry. He said, the quality of a man's life is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence. And so stay tuned. We will be back for our number two and talk with Marlee Hornick about our elections.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And this is a big show. We talked with Lauren Fix in Hour Number One, Car Coach Reports, and about freedom of mobility. This assault upon our freedoms is so significant. So check out the website as we will have recaps and podcasts of the shows there. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. on all KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And then you can find the show on Spotify and iTunes as well. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. Let's see here. What's the next thing? Our word of the day is analogy. It's A-N-A-L-O-G-Y. could be a similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar. And their example was seize an analogy between viral infection and the spread of ideas. And then their second definition of comparison based on such similarity as made an analogy between love and a fever. And number three, correspondence in function or position between organs of dissimilar evolutionary origin. structure and our quote of the day is and I know Lucy had asked for this I'll try to get that to her but this is I had out-of-town guests and had received a gift certificate to the Flying W Ranch in Colorado Springs and they have a chuckwagon dinner and And a great show. And they have been doing this since 1953. And pretty amazing. And the dinner show, in fact, Colonel Rutledge had told me that the Sons of the Pioneers had performed at the Flying W Ranch. But they have five wranglers that are great musicians. And then they have these days beautiful videos that go with the music that's being played. And one of the songs that they did was America the Beautiful. And, of course, they encouraged everybody to sing with them. But the images were so beautiful that they had and the words were so beautiful that I got choked up and I couldn't actually sing. Sing it. But anyway, this is my creed by Dean Alfonge. This is on the back of the tickets of the Flying W Ranch. He said, I want to take the calculated risk to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence, the thrill of fulfillment to the state calm of utopia. I will not trade freedom for beneficence, nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any earthly master, nor been to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud, and unafraid, to think and act myself, enjoy the benefits of my creations, and to face the world boldly and say, this with God's help I have done. All this is what it means to be an American. And that is, again, on the back of the ticket at the Flying W Ranch. I would highly recommend that you check that out. And we get to do all of this. And can't wait in the second, third, and fourth segment to talk with Marlee Hornick with Unite for America, which is formerly known as United Sovereign Americans. And we have these discussions because I work with amazing people. And I'm talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And, Roger, I learned so much in all of these conversations. And I've heard some things about state's guarantee funds and insurance. What does that mean? What should people know about that?
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This primarily applies to life insurance, health insurance, annuities. And you really should look carefully at where the company you may have those products with are now financially. There are some companies that are teetering. I don't want to mention the name of a company, but I'm going to give you a quick example. I had a policy with this company, and... I thought, you know, I don't need this policy anymore. It's a life insurance policy. So I pulled some money out, surrendered the policy, and felt pretty good about that. And it even felt better when I found out this company was being taken over by the state insurance commission because they were going bankrupt. In receivership, anyway. They weren't literally going bankrupt, but they were in a position where they had to would not allow me to take my money out. There was a cap of I could take $100,000 out of this account, surrender the policy. And then the death benefit, had I died, the death benefit would have been limited to $300,000. And it was a million-dollar life insurance policy. So I'm paying all these premiums all these years, and all of a sudden I find out this company is not solvent. So you really should, if you have these products, call the agent who is servicing those products and find out what's the relative strength of the companies that are holding your policies. Now, there is a National Association of Insurance Commissioners throughout the United States. Most insurance policies are regulated, almost all insurance policies are regulated by the individual states. There is no federal government involvement, thank God, because we know when the feds get involved in something, it usually becomes very, very complex. So here's the, in Colorado, if you have a life insurance policy and you die and the company that you had the policy with is in trouble financially and it happens, the maximum death benefit guarantee is $300,000 in Colorado. And if you surrender the policy and you have $40,000 of cash value, you can get it. The cap on that is $100,000 in Colorado. So if you surrender a policy and it's worth $200,000 in cash value, you're only going to get $100,000. So it behooves you to check up on the status of the companies you're with. Health insurance, same situation. $500,000 in hospital, medical, and surgical insurance benefits are guaranteed by the state guarantee fund. You can run through $500,000 in a serious illness pretty quickly, as you know. So make sure that health insurance company is healthy financially. Disability insurance, there's a $300,000 cap. And long-term care insurance benefits, a $300,000 cap. And then any other types of health insurance benefits have a $100,000 cap. And lastly, annuities. A lot of people have a lot of money in annuities. But there's a cap of $250,000 in withdrawals and cash value if the company is not solvent. So check it out, please.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we're talking a lot about freedom. And we'll be talking with Marlee Hornick with Unite for Freedom and United Sovereign Americans. They're doing a name change. But financial freedom starts with the right guide, and Mint Financial Strategies is here to help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience and the credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that's focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms with clarity, confidence, and control. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. Your path to independent financial confidence begins That number is 303-285-3080. And on the line with me is co-founder of United Sovereign Americans, Marlee Hornick, and we've got big news. Marlee Hornick, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning, Kim. Thank you so much. We sure do have big news because it's time to file a new brief in our lawsuit against Colorado state officials, Jenna Griswold and the Attorney General. And we are actually in a really unique position because thanks to your help and the help of many of your listeners, we have a piece of evidence to submit inside of that filing that shows it really demonstrates that election officials are not bothering in the state of Colorado to verify the identity of voters before counting their votes. So that brings up the question, Why bother having an election at all if you don't care who votes?
SPEAKER 09 :
And so, again, thank you to our listeners and our followers who last year contributed and raised the money to get this lawsuit filed. And you're going to have a big news conference tomorrow where you're going to be mentioning some of this stuff, right, Marlee? Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
We sure are. Yeah, we're going to be going over it in some detail, but certainly it's really important that your listeners especially understand what it is we're going to be presenting. So I'm here to have a great discussion. And go into it however you want to. I think we should talk about the study that we did. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, yeah. First of all, let's set this up. I had included some information that I've sent out to potential funders regarding the 2022 election, that there was 1.4 million facially incorrect. I don't know if that's correct. That's the right word. Registrations here in Colorado or unpack that for so people can understand that Marley Hornig.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Sure. It sounds complicated, but it's really quite simple. So when an election or when a voter applicant is added to the statewide voter registration list, some of the issues inside of their registration record are considered critical or material to knowing whether or not they are actually qualified to vote and qualified to be in that database in the first place. And the problem that Colorado has is that a large number of these critical pieces of information are either missing or obviously false. Now, let's go into that a little bit for example in the state of colorado during the period of the 2024 election there were 628 000 people in the database whose their official record maintained by jenna griswold shows that they were registered to vote after they voted which is obviously a false date it is impossible There's no way someone can go through a valid registration process after their ballot is received and counted. And when it happens, you know, maybe 10 times, there's probably a reasonable explanation. When it happens 628,000 times, that requires an investigation. We have to figure out, is somebody adding false data to the database? Is the database management system faulty? But there's no way to tell the difference when you just look at a piece of paper of how many of those are legitimate and how many of them are coming from some other issue, whether it's a problem in the system, whether it's outright fraud, whether it's a breach of the data systems. Nobody knows. It's impossible. But the arrogance of Jenna Griswold and some of the other election officials in Colorado is to dismiss it out of just immediately. Just on site. Nope, that's totally fine. We know why that happened 628,000 times just by looking at your piece of paper. And that is unacceptable.
SPEAKER 09 :
So we're now talking about the 2024 election. And what we initially on the lawsuit that was filed last September is we were referencing it's Unite for America. You're doing a name change as well, correct? Unite for freedom dot com. Yep. Unite for freedom. OK. Unite for freedom dot com. Got it. OK. Unite for freedom dot com. So the basis for the lawsuit initially was the analysis that was done on the 2022 election. And but now this amendment will be regarding the research that was done on the 2024 election. Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they'll both be on the lawsuit because one of the arguments we made in 2022 was, judge, take a look at this mess. Take a look at this administrative disaster. Who's allowed to turn their taxes in looking like this? And yet we're using it and accepting it as the basis for our national sovereignty. And we said, you know, if you don't do something about this, if you don't order the state to figure out what the heck is going on here, it's going to happen again. And, of course, in 2024, it did happen again. So we haven't removed anything from before. We're just showing the judge we were right. It happened again. The problems are a little bit different than they were in 2022, but nobody knows why, because nobody ever bothered to look into the first disaster.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so could the 628,000, we have same-day registration, voter registration on those 628,000 people. That'd be a whole lot. But could that be what the problem is?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's 20% of your vote. That's 20% of your vote. One in every five voters register to vote on the day of the election. And supposedly that means that the registration date is in the future. It just doesn't add up, Kim. It's not acceptable. We can't. Take, you know, the election officials can't wave a magic wand in front of us and put us back to sleep anymore. We're done. They can't tell us they know why that happened. And you got another problem. You got the same thing inside the rolls at the time of the election. For some reason, 644,000 people who voted in the 2024 primary have had their voting history changed. deleted their vote from the 2024 primary that was in there before is gone 644 000 times that is a a gigantic hole you could drive an entire fleet of semi-trailers through and somebody's got to figure out why that happened and not just tell us to go away call us election deniers and shove whatever representatives they want in our faces and tell us that we chose them. This is over.
SPEAKER 09 :
So this is clearly not the goal standard, which is what we have seen with people on both sides of the aisle here in Colorado that have basically patted us on the head and said, there's nothing to see here, move along, nothing to see here, move along. And that's why these lawsuits that we got filed are so important. Now, the 628,000, you said that in their official record that they were –
SPEAKER 08 :
not registered till after they voted do i have that correct correct yep and uh and out of that pool about 45 000 of them voted specifically in the 2024 election but their votes are otherwise spread through a variety of elections but largely 2020 2022 and 2024. You also have, you know, this interesting phenomenon. So if they're not worried about that because they can definitely prove it 628,000 times line by line, then how come we also discovered 33,000 people whose registrations were backdated to vote in the primary? I mean, this is literally chaos. It's mayhem in the records. No corporate filing would be tolerated in this disarray. No individual personal taxes would be accepted in this kind of disarray. And again, what are we doing with these records? We are securing our national sovereignty through our representation in Congress, in this case from the state of Colorado. It is not okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so this 628,000 is separate from this other number of 644,000 that had their voting history deleted, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, and that's separate from the 33,000 that were backdated, and it's separated from all the other ones, too. It's really odd. It's just bizarre how election officials, they're willing to die on this hill that this data is somehow defensible. And this is the only record, Kim, that exists. You could take a rocket ship to Mars with Elon Musk. There is no other federal document that records the official list of voters and the official list of votes counted from those voters. This is it.
SPEAKER 09 :
So the 644,000 with their voting history deleted. So what is that voting history? It's not who they voted for, but that they voted in previous elections, or what is that history?
SPEAKER 08 :
It just means that they had previously had a vote recorded for the 2024 primary election, and it's gone. And they're editing a federal election post-facto over half a million times. Why? You can't tell me. I mean, the standard explanation that they attempt to wave us away with is, well, those are people who moved, died, or committed a felony, and so their voting history went wherever they went. So you're telling me that since the primary election in Colorado until December... 644,000 people in Colorado relocated? I don't think that's plausible. I think that's not even as many people as are leaving New York and California combined in a year's period. It's just not, they can't just say it. They have to prove it because our national sovereignty is on the line.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is really fascinating, Marlee Hornick. Let's go to break because I want to understand this even more. And again, this is really late. This is this is late breaking news. And you're the first to hear it here. on the Kim Monson Show with Marlee Hornick with UniteForFreedom.com. And this discussion is so important. It happens because of our sponsors. And pleased to have the Second Syndicate as they are out there protecting our Second Amendment.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMonson.com. Talking with Marlee Hornig. She's a co-founder of Unite for Freedom, formerly known as United Sovereign Americans. And because of all of you listeners and our followers, we raised money for a lawsuit that was filed. Let's see here. It was filed on... September 10th of last year, and it was based on the 2022 election results where it said there was 1.4 million facially ineligible or uncertain registrations, resulting in 100,693 improperly counted votes and 34,000, almost 35,000 more votes counted than votes reported. And that is the lawsuit that was initially filed, and then we're going to be adding in what you found regarding 2024 this i quote these numbers and people say how could this be how did you do this research on this marley hornick yeah well just i just want to validate everybody who wants to know how could this be because that's exactly what we want to know uh and and just to
SPEAKER 08 :
tell everybody a tiny little story. It started in New York in 2021 when we discovered over at New York Citizens Audit that the state had certified an election with 356 or something like that thousand more votes counted than they had any record of voters who voted. So This is the question. How can this be? And how come the state officials have no interest in answering that question or even exploring the question? When did we get to this point when they have no curiosity to explore these questions and make sure they are doing their duty by the American people to administer legally valid elections? Now, I have just already, because I just was thinking about this, I forgot what the question was you asked. Can you ask me again?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I think one of the things, so I know that many of your volunteers have presented this information at city councils, county commissioner meetings. They had gone to Jenna Griswold. And there wasn't – she just basically thumbed her nose at this because there was no legal action taken. And that's why, again, thank you to our listeners and followers for contributing the funds to get that lawsuit filed. But one of the first things that's going to happen is, in essence, shoot the messenger. You're going to see officials – and I've really seen it on both sides of the aisle that have said nothing to see here – They're going to try to discredit how you got this information. So how did you get this information? And obviously, it's the basis of our lawsuit.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. That's right. I'm sorry. So how did we get this information? It is so simple. We asked for a copy of the official statewide voter registration list in Colorado, which is a federal document according to the Help America Vote Act. it is the official list of statewide qualified eligible citizen voters for the state of colorado we asked for it from the custodian jenna griswold she sent us a copy this happened multiple times because some of our work involves kind of cross-analyzing multiple copies from different date stamps but that's how we got these records We asked for the list of registered voters and the list of voter participation, the history. And she sent us those documents and we studied them and we extracted these numbers of clearly deficient registration records straight out of those documents. That's it. Who did the work? People who are experts in computer technology, people who are auditors, analysts, big data programmers and developers. And we had a large team. We have had as many as 95 different people volunteering their credentials to assist that team over two years. And they peer review each other's work. We never publish anything without making sure that the team agrees that the accuracy is solid and that this is literally what the records show. And then we publish. And then we send those reports to the state officials when they invariably, as you say, red or blue, it doesn't matter. They invariably scoff at us and dismiss us. Then we send everything over to the FBI and the DOJ. Now, under the Biden administration, we got nowhere. Under the new administration, we are developing some relationships in the administration inside of the DOJ. So that's all I can say about that. But There is genuine concern about what we're showing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Going back to you said that 644,000 of voting histories were deleted after the 2024 primary, correct? Am I getting that correct? Yeah. It seems like why would you delete it? Even if somebody moved, wouldn't you just note on there moved or if they died, you'd say deceased?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I'm going to tell you why. It's called vote laundering. That's why. It's fraud. The issue is nobody knows who's doing it, nobody knows how it's getting done, and nobody in the Colorado state government either A, wants to admit it's happening, or B, seems to care. And that is an outright conspiracy against the rights of Colorado voters to to have their votes fairly counted in a legally valid election, which is a constitutional right. It is the only constitutional right. In fact, every other right that you love and cherish is in the Bill of Rights. This is the only one in the Constitution, and it's literally the third sentence. You cannot have America without legitimate representative government. Go ask. Ask James Madison. Ask Thomas Jefferson. Ask them what they think about this. You will be astonished when you read their papers and their writings and their speeches on this topic. It doesn't exist. We don't have a country if we don't have legitimate representative governments.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, next thing I'm wondering, Colorado has always, within the last several election cycles, has had a participation rate of voters, which I thought's pretty amazing. And so I'm looking at something called Colorado Newsline, and it said that, let's see, I thought that it said that there was about 81% participation by Coloradans. That's pretty high, isn't it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's a lot of enthusiasm. It's not impossible. You know, again, there's two things going on here. There's things that are suspicious and there's things that are unacceptable. And so, sure, it's suspicious if 81% of Coloradans are turning out. It's possible. It doesn't prove anything one way or another. But I'll tell you, you know, because what I want to talk about now is that we took these suspicions and these invalid registration records. And you're because you're a lot of your listeners are probably sitting there thinking, well, you know, there could be like rash of people who've been hired inside of these election bureaus who just can't help themselves from pressing enter at inappropriate times. And so. That could be the reason for these 1.4 million issues, and all of them could have an explanation. And we were concerned, and I know you were concerned, and some of your listeners and supporters were also concerned that the court would say exactly that to us when we brought them this data. And so we went a step further, right, Kim? And we went and we took one Colorado county together. With Kim Monson, we did this. We took Jefferson County, Colorado, and we took a look. We did a deep dive and tried to identify the registered voters who had voted in 2024. Because our question was, okay, let's see if we can identify them. Maybe we can. And so maybe we should stop arguing about this in public and filing lawsuits. So through the help of private investigators, who are licensed and qualified to do this work. And, you know, we never looked at any personal identifying information, only the PIs did. We went into databases that are commonly used, they're commercial, viable, accurate databases that are used for identity theft and fraud prevention, right? So somebody maintains these databases accurately and pristinely because they're making money if they're, you know, or they're rather, let's say they're losing money if the databases are junk. So we did this work. And on a prevalence basis, we discovered that in Jefferson County, Colorado, in 2024, just under 20,000 voters who voted do not have a social security number. We found out that 1,790 voters who had their votes counted in Jefferson County in 2024 cannot be found in any of these databases, and we queried three of them. So we didn't just look in one. We looked in three different sources of these commercial tools, and we cannot find these individuals at all. They don't exist. But they voted in your Congressional District 2 and your Congressional District 7 elections.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, Marla, so Marla, I need to go back and correct something here regarding what I had said regarding voter participation, because we want to get it right. And this is from, hold on, let me give you the source on this, Colorado Politics. It said about 3.19 million Coloradans cast ballots in the 2024 election, which was about 69%. And it says some 87 percent of active voters cast a ballot in the 2020 election. So that's the second highest turnout in the nation. So I just wanted to clarify that. We've got a question here from one of our listeners. It says, ask Marley what specific information is typically missing when we were quoting that from the 1.4 million poll. in 2022. What was missing?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, what's missing is valid dates that are considered, and this is a legal term, material to determining eligibility. If you read the Voting Rights Act of 1965 or the Civil Rights Act of 1964, same thing really, you will learn that election officials are not allowed to deprive anyone of their right to vote if there are errors and omissions in their records that are not material. Conversely, if you can't tell based on the information in front of you whether someone is qualified, you have to resolve that error on a legal basis. You cannot do it arbitrarily. You cannot ad hoc decide 628,000 times that the person in front of you or the ballot in front of you or whatever this is, is just legitimate because you just have a gut feeling that it's legitimate. It has to be a legal process. Otherwise, we're not controlling registration and voting. There's no control. It's not up to an individual. Everybody has to follow the same rules. So what's missing, you know, legitimate dates, backdated registrations, January 1st registration dates, people who are older than 111, people whose effective date is the same as their registration date, but they're inactive, voted before registered. This is technical election stuff, but nobody can look at this piece of paper with these numbers on it And tell me how exactly all 1.3 million of these things happen without looking into it. And when you look at the numbers, if your goal as an election official or a state official is to uphold the civil rights of your citizens, it is to make sure that not that the citizens have to take your word for election outcomes, but rather that you are a pivotal servant of inside of our beautiful republican system of government because think about this jenna griswold when she certifies the 2024 election for the state of colorado she simultaneously with her signature authorizes the entire state government and all of the federal representation from colorado this is not a ministerial task This is a huge responsibility, and it is one of the most important service roles that we have in our country. And when she looks at these records and tells you to go pound sand, and she doesn't have to look at any of this, and there's nothing to see here, and then on top of it, maybe she just, you know, vindictively goes after the one woman in Colorado who was bravely attempting to preserve records on behalf of her constituents, Tina Peters. Who can trust that person? Why should we? It's not about election denying. It's about responsibility. And she doesn't want to do her job and she doesn't want to be questioned. She doesn't want to talk about it. She doesn't want to hear about it. And that's why we sued her in federal court together. Kim Monson and all of you guys, you all pitched in and helped with that. That's why this is ongoing. And that's why we conducted this study into whether Unite for Freedoms. can verify voters? Because if we found almost 20,000 Colorado voters just in Jefferson County with no social security number, how did Jenna Griswold verify those voters before counting their ballots? How did she do it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Great question. Marlee Hornick, we're going to go to a quick break. We will be right back.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show, and thank you to the Harris family who sponsors, one of the sponsors of the show, so that you get this information. On the line with me is Marlee Hornet, co-founder of UniteForFreedom.com, formerly known as United Sovereign Americans. And thank you to all of you and our followers. We raised the money for this lawsuit that we are talking about. And also we raised the money for this Jefferson County voter study. And this is really let's let's unpack this voter study just a little bit. Marla, you and I talked and I'd seen a report that you guys had done a study of voters in Orange County, California, which is a very populous county. And why all this matters, Marley, is because if these elections are not honest and transparent and secure, it affects the people that are in office that are making decisions. So, for example, out in Jefferson County, Rebecca Stewart was elected president. I have that in air quotes because we're trying to check things out over my friend, Ramey Johnson. Rebecca Stewart had her name as a sponsor on the transgender piece of legislation here in Colorado that would basically allow officials to take kids out of the home if parents do not affirm. The child's gender confusion. And so these elections really matter. And what we know is that Democrats and these judges are trying to put sand in the gears to stop the Trump agenda to try to get to the 2026 election. And if we don't. if we don't have, you know, free, fair, honest, and transparent elections, then, uh, we've got real problems. So I asked you to, uh, after I looked at the report that you had from Orange County, I said, what about Jefferson County? And I talked with some of my friends in Jefferson County. We raised the money for you guys to do the analysis of the 2024 election. So, uh, unpack that just a little bit more.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sure. And I, I just want to give a shout out to Ramey also because, um, She took on being a plaintiff in our lawsuit, which was an act of great courage. And I just really want to thank her for that. Another issue that we discovered inside of this deep voter identity study is that 16,000, actually almost 17,000 of the votes that were counted in 2024 in Jefferson County came from individuals who according to these law enforcement level databases, these commercial tools, that not only find people specifically if they exist or where, but also exactly when. When exactly did they live at a particular address? And you got almost 17,000 votes here from people who clearly no longer lived at the address they voted from Within six months of the 2024 election, which, you know, is a reasonable amount of time for election officials to have figured out that someone has relocated. So if they if their address shows there that they live there within six months of the election, we don't even bother counting it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Whoops. Oh, gosh, I hope we didn't lose her. I just heard a click. So you're talking about just over 10,000. Okay. Marlee, you cut out for just a minute. So the voter address as invalid, is that separate from in Jefferson County from voters without a Social Security number?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's possible that there are some records there that cross over, and it's kind of difficult to measure how many cross over. So we left those at two different points of inquiry. Okay. And that's why we didn't total the votes there. You'll see there were something somewhere between 22,000 and 42,000 basically suspected election fraud votes that were counted. And Ramey's, you know, the margin of victory in that race was 10,000. So it's, you know, already we're well into... the threshold of materiality, or you could say, you know, more votes in question than the margin of victory itself.
SPEAKER 09 :
Jefferson County also voted to get rid of Tabor, Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights. Okay, so where do we go from here? We've got about three minutes left. You've got this big press conference tomorrow in Washington, D.C. at the National Press Club. What's next, Marlee Hornick? This is amazing. And I can hear the conviction and the emotion in your voice.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, what's next is this Colorado lawsuit. What's next is other lawsuits around the country. We're working at various levels of government where we have officials who are willing to sit down at the table, at least, and take a look at these issues. They are happening across the country, and really it's up to the citizens. We have to decide that we are not going to accept invalid, bogus election returns, and they have to be able to prove results to us. before they're allowed to govern. So this is really what it boils down to. All we want are real voters, real votes, real counts, and real proof. And Unite for Freedom obviously is going to keep working on this issue until we have it resolved. One thing I would say is that if people are shocked and angered about the results of the Jefferson County study, It is a possibility that we could do a statewide study. So if people want to expand the scope of what we've looked at, that's on the table. And as well in other states, we have done these prevalent studies now in over eight different states. And every time we discover the same issue. How are election officials identifying and verifying these people before counting their votes? And if they're not... Isn't that the definition of criminal election fraud?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and what it does is it negates all of us as Americans. It negates our vote because if we cannot verify who these people are that are voting and if their voter records are disappearing, then that actually negates the legitimate vote of everyday Americans. And I've got to think most Americans think that that is not OK. We've got a minute left. This has gone so quickly, but really important information. Marlee Hornick, how do you want to wrap this up?
SPEAKER 08 :
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Explore the life of a legend as Colonel Harvey reflects on his experiences in World War II, the Korean War, and the pivotal 1949 Top Gun competition. Despite facing systemic racism and numerous challenges, Colonel Harvey's story is one of triumph and determination, offering valuable lessons on courage, focus, and striving for excellence. This episode is a tribute to the perseverance and bravery of America's veterans.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and her other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. The show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, France, for the 72nd anniversary of the Allies' D-Day landings to liberate France from Hitler and his Nazi regime. Return stateside realizing that we need to know these stories. We need to record them and broadcast them and archive them, and hence America's veteran stories. I am so honored to have on the line with me Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III. He was the winner of the very first military Top Gun competition. It is a remarkable story. Colonel Harvey, welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be with you. And Colonel Harvey, you also are a Tuskegee Airman, correct? That's correct. Okay, well, let's talk about your story. First of all, where did you grow up?
SPEAKER 09 :
I grew up in a small town in northeastern Pennsylvania called Nongal Station.
SPEAKER 08 :
you can tell how big that was by the name and uh what you know how many children in the family where did you fall within the um within the line of the children
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. I was the first of four children, and I was the only child for nine years. My mother was so old that she couldn't have any more children after I was born. Anyway, my brother arrived nine years later, and three years after that, a sister, and three years after that, another sister.
SPEAKER 08 :
So there were a total of four of us. Okay. And you are going to celebrate your 100th birthday here in 2023, correct? Yes. That is pretty, pretty remarkable. So what was it like growing up in this little town in Pennsylvania? It was great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Pardon me. Pardon me. It was great. We were the only family of color out there in the area. And I didn't have any problems whatsoever. No name-calling, no nothing. I was just one of the other groups, one of the other people, I should say, living there in New England. And when I moved there, when we moved there, I was in the seventh grade in the two-room schoolhouse. And when I finished the two-room school, I went to high school up in Mountaintop, Pennsylvania. And that school went from first grade through the 12th grade. But anyway, I entered on the ninth grade, and here again, the name calling, no nothing. I was just one of the groups. So I just fit right in with everything. The only sports they had in the school were gymnastics and basketball. And I was the in command of the gymnastics team and captain of the basketball team. No problems, no name calling, no nothing. I was just another person. Then in my senior year, I was class president and fellow Victorian. Oh my goodness. Here again, just another guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
First of all, we need to reclaim that experience here in 2023 America of no name-calling and just that experience. So that gives me heart. But I'm hearing this... striving for excellence. And we've done an interview before. And I think that's one of the things that at least I feel is a takeaway is your continued striving for excellence. And it sounds like it started when you were in school.
SPEAKER 09 :
It started before I went to school. It started early in my life. I used to listen to Walt Disney and see his characters, and I used to draw them. And as a matter of fact, my drawings are better than his. But everything had to be perfect. for anything less than deflection. And I just carried through all through my military career up until the time I got married. When I got married, I had to knock it off.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because perfection can be challenging as well, but still striving for excellence is okay. So tell us about when did you get into the military then?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, I tried to enlist in the military in January of 1943. I tried to enlist in the Army Air Corps, I should say. They said they weren't taking enlistments at that time. That was the height of the war. So what they were telling me is they didn't want any people of color in the Army Air Corps. So they drafted me into the Army in March of 1943. And that's when I ran into segregation, when I was inducted into the service. I took a train from 44th, Pennsylvania, bound to Fort Meade, Maryland. Arrived in Washington, D.C. early in the morning. And we were early, like I say, and so I got off the train and went to a restaurant. Got some breakfast, came back, went to get into the car I arrived in, and they said, no, no, you ride in the car where Negroes ride. Welcome to the South.
SPEAKER 08 :
Were you absolutely shocked? And first of all, you wanted to get into the Army Air Corps, and they said no, that they were not taking enlistments during the height of the war. Right. But yet then a few months later, you're drafted into the Army. And then were you just shocked, Colonel Harvey, when they said that this car was not for you? Were you just aghast or what went through your mind at that time?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so you're in the Army now. What happens after that, Colonel Harvey? Okay, I'm in the Army, and what they did is they put me in the Army Air Corps Engineer. Driving bulldozers, graders, carry-offs. My mission is going to the jungles of the Pacific. Go down an area and build an airfield. Well, we each went out and practiced in an old town called Accotank, Virginia. And... It all got all sweaty and dusty, and I said, no, this isn't for me. So I applied for cadet training. I was accepted, and 10 of us went to Bowling Field to take the exam, nine whites and myself. We took the exam, and when the dust cleared, there were two of us standing, a white guy and myself. So from there, I went to Roxy, Mississippi, the Keeska Field. And 30 more days of basic training. And when I finished my basic training at Keister Field, off to Tuskegee I went and the rest is history.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so you're off to Tuskegee. And so what happens when you get there?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm assigned to a unit. They put us in a rocker cub to see if we had the aptitude to fly an aircraft. And so I finished that. So then I was assigned to primary training. And primary training, we flew PT-19 aircraft, not the high-wing, low-wing monoplane aircraft. And I looked more like a fighter. And I flew that in primary. Finished primary and then went to basic. And basically had a BT-13. It's normally called a bounty vibrator because you would vibrate. Get the airspeed too low. And then I went to advanced training. And after advanced training, I went to a tactical unit. But, well, I should say overseas training unit. And from there, I was assigned to a tactical unit. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, there at Tuskegee, this would be all black pilots, is that right? Or what did that look like exactly at Tuskegee?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, in primary, our instructors were black. I don't like to use that term, but anyway, we'll use it. Well, what term should I use? You can use anything you want. I just don't like that term. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm just... Yeah, just explain to the listeners what that looked like when you got there. I'm sorry. I missed that. Okay. So at Tuskegee, instructors, what did that all look like? Because the Tuskegee Airmen are so famous. So what did that all look like?
SPEAKER 09 :
Our instructors in primary were instructors of color. Okay. They had finished training at Church Kiki Institute. The government had a plan where they trained youngsters or I shouldn't say youngsters but college graduates to fly aircraft, and the best ones were used as instructors. Now, our instructors were people of color, and their job was twofold. Number one, teach us to fly, and number two, condition us to what would happen when we got to our white instructors in primary training. I'm sorry, in basic and advanced. So what they would do is they would do all kinds of things to provoke us to do something where we could get washed out. They'd call us names like the Wycombe instructors would be calling us. Anything to provoke us to do something. And so they could correct us and get us on the right path so we wouldn't do anything stupid to wash up. They did a good job.
SPEAKER 08 :
So they were teaching a real discipline then as well, yes, Colonel Harvey? Yes. Yes. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
I had a two-fold job in primary.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it was important because there were those that probably wanted you guys to wash out, yes? What was that? There were people out there that wanted you guys to wash out, so to not wash out was super important, yes? Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
But they didn't think we could fly, period. So we knew we could. But anyway, yes, your question, your statement, I should say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, is it a class? Would you say it was this class of Tuskegee Airmen? How many guys were in this class or unit that you were training with? Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe 25 or 30 in the class. Okay, okay. And maybe 15 or 20 complete, maybe.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's a pretty good percentage, isn't it, for completion?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, yes, especially when they're trying to wash us out. Right. They did everything to wash us out. And what...
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I think I'm assuming everybody knows what washing out means, but it means that you don't make it through. And I know that I've interviewed a number of pilots that it was just sheer grit to make sure that, that they didn't wash out. I'm talking with Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III, Tuskegee Airmen, and the winner of the first ever Top Gun competition, our military Top Gun competition. And we will talk about that here in just a little bit. But before we go to break, I wanted to mention the Center for American Values, which is located right here in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo, Colorado. is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that call Pueblo home. And the Center for American Values does great educational programs to talk about integrity and honor and patriotism. And they also have a beautiful Portraits of Valor, which is 160 different Medal of Honor recipients with quotes. The center is open seven days a week. 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. You can get more information by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. We will be right back.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Hi.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. And I am so pleased to have on the line with me Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III. Well, we wanted to make a clarification. In the previous segment, I had said that you were the military's first top gun, that you'd won that competition. But you wanted to clarify that, Colonel Harvey III.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, I do. Our team consisted of four people, three primaries, and one alternate. Now, the three primaries were Captain Temple, First Lieutenant Harry Stewart, and First Lieutenant James H. Harvey III. And the three of us won the main.
SPEAKER 08 :
And while we're talking about it, let's talk about – I'm trying to think here. Let's go ahead and talk about the competition while we're making this clarification. I know that there's a lot of experience we want to talk about between when you had gotten out of advanced training – But let's talk about the competition right now. You said that there were four team members and all Tuskegee Airmen. Is that correct, Colonel Harvey?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that was our team from Rockborn, Columbus, Ohio. All the other fighter groups in the United States participated.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. It was just one part. Okay, but your team was all Tuskegee Airmen, yes or no? Yes. Okay. So how many different teams were competing for this topic? And this was, what, do I remember right? Wasn't it like 1949 that this was, or I can't remember? May of 49. May of 49, okay. So World War II is over, and of course... airplanes, aerial, the Air Force, all that was just coming into being because World War II was over. When was the Air Force created? It initially was the Army Air Corps and then became a separate branch of service to the Air Force. When did that change occur?
SPEAKER 1 :
1948.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. In the United States Air Force.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So this is now the very first competition for the United States Air Force. Top gun. It's a team of four. There are teams from all over the country. How many teams were competing, Colonel Harvey?
SPEAKER 09 :
A lot. Should we say?
SPEAKER 08 :
We'll say a lot. Okay. So first of all, where was this competition at?
SPEAKER 09 :
I was at Las Vegas Air Force Base, Nevada, which is now Nellis. Okay. And what did it entail? Okay. It was aerial gunnery at 12,000 feet, aerial gunnery at 20,000 feet, dive bombing, skip bombing, rocket firing, and panel streaking. They were the events.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. Wow. Okay, so each of the pilots on your team, did they have a specialty, or what did that look like in these competitions? Did they have a special what? A specialty. So did, like, for example, did you do the dive bombing and somebody else did the aerial at 12,000 feet, or what did that look like?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, we all did the same thing, each mission. If it was a dive bombing mission, we all dive bombed. The skip bombing mission, we all have skip bombs. Kind of the same thing for all the teams.
SPEAKER 08 :
And what is skip bombing? I know what dive bombing is, but what is the skip bombing?
SPEAKER 09 :
You come in very low to the ground, your propeller carrying ground by a lot of foot, and then you drop, you release your bomb. I won't tell you my secret. We release our bombs. We're so low, it doesn't have a chance to nose over yet. So the bomb hits the ground and it's in the flat position and skips through the target.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is that dangerous for the pilot if you're so close, so low to the ground, and you drop it? I mean, if it immediately would detonate, would that be a problem for the airplane?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, it doesn't detonate at that point because when you drop it, it's a cone shape on the front. It's a rounded front and... That's where the mechanism is that sets the bomb off. So it hasn't struck anything yet. It only explodes when it hits something, like the target, whatever target you skip on it. So when it hits flat, it's okay. Just don't let the nose hit something. When the nose hits something, that's when it explodes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, okay. Tell us about dive bombing. I find that intriguing and very scary. So what does dive bombing look like exactly?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, you come over to your target about 10,000 feet. You roll it over and drop down vertical on your target. Then you decide when you want to release your bomb. But you have to make sure for the meat, you have to release it and pull out by 2,000 feet. Okay. Anyway, that's the procedure for dive bombing. Come over your target, roll over, drop straight down, line up on the target, release your bomb when you think you should release it, and pull out. I find that remarkable.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 09 :
There was an F-82 that was involved. We had a young airman from our group. And he wanted to get a ride in an F-82 to see what dive bombing was like. And the pilot mushed into the ground. When I say mushed, he was pulling back on the stick, but he was too low when he started. And here's the aircraft that's, like I just said, mushed. Sort of a flat attitude at the bottom and kept going down and struck the ground and killed both of us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my gosh. Yes. Yeah, it's truly, truly an art. So the competition is occurring here in Las Vegas. It's now Nellis Air Force Base. How many days was the competition?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'd say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Okay. So I'm just trying to think about what would be happening there. Here you're drafted in 1943, and that's where you started to see segregation in the military. And here it is 19... Segregation period. Segregation period. Segregation period. I mean, we have to kind of understand that that was probably a really big thing that you guys were competing there. And there were probably people that were not rooting for your success on this, correct, Colonel Harvey? No one as far as success.
SPEAKER 09 :
They didn't plan on it either. We weren't supposed to win. And we won. That upset everything. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And if I remember right from our last interview, it took a number of years before you and your team actually received the award. Am I calling that correctly?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we received the award, recognition of the award we did not receive. We finally got that in January of 2022.
SPEAKER 08 :
January of 2022. Almost 73 years later. Boy, that's something. What else do you want people to know about the competition? And we'll finish that up in this segment. What else should people know about that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we were competing with the best the Air Force had to offer. And so right there, we weren't supposed to win because we weren't considered anything. Anyway, we won the meet. Robert Strauss was there. We won the meet. In the record books, it said the winner of the World 49 Veterans Meet was unknown. Unknown, unknown. We finally got that corrected after 46 years. Boy, that's a long time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, everything takes a long time when we're involved. Yes. What about you and your teammates when you won the competition? What did you guys say to each other? How did you lean on each other with all this?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we were elated when we won. Plus, we had an incentive. We met with our commander, Colonel Benjamin Rodriguez, Jr. at Rockborn, Columbus, Ohio, before we left, going to Vegas. His big, mighty remark was, if you don't win, don't come back. So those words of encouragement, off we went.
SPEAKER 08 :
That is really exciting. I'm still just thinking about the fact that you weren't recognized for a number of years for the win. But I guess what I will say is it's about time. In all this, Colonel Harvey, did you ever feel like a victim? Feel like a victim? Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. Oh, yeah. I felt like a victim. It didn't bother me. I just kept going on and doing what I had to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. So you rose above that then and again, became the best of the best. And I think that's important for people to understand that, I mean, we do have things that happen in our lives, but we have to rise above that. Correct, Colonel Harvey? Correct. Correct. Correct. Always. Always. Okay. And at this point, what would you say to the young people of America right now? I mean, here you're going to be 100 years old. Your accomplishments are absolutely remarkable. You started as a young age. It sounds like probably at home, the striving for what you said, perfection, but striving for excellence. What would you say to the young people of America now? Always strive to be the best. It'll pay off in life. Well, that is very important. Important rules to live by. And I'm talking with Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III, Tuskegee Airmen. He and his team won the very first Top Gun military competition in And at this time, I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation. Paula Sarles is the president of the Marine Memorial Foundation, and she and her team are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax. And you can help them by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org to contribute, to donate. Also, you can buy a brick to honor your military service or your loved one's military service. It will be on a walk pathway, a walkway there, and you will receive now a beautiful certificate for that. So for more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We'll be right back with Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III.
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God bless America.
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And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. Thrilled and honored to have on the line with me Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III, a Tuskegee Airman. He and his team won the very first Top Gun competition in 1949. Colonel Harvey, you are drafted into the Army in 1943. Did you end up going to either Europe or the Pacific during World War II? No, I did not.
SPEAKER 09 :
I finished combat training in April of 1943, and I had my bags packed within one hour of catching the train to go to Norfolk. I shipped to go and join the group, and we got a message saying the war in Italy was over, and they expected to line up the whole European theater. Well, Hitler gave up the following month, so I didn't make it. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Before we move on, I wanted to ask you a little bit more about the washout rate regarding becoming a pilot in the Army Air Corps at that time. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
In, let's see, the early 40s, you can say 41, 42, I think January, February, the washout or failure rates for white cadets was running at 63%, which is pretty high. Mm-hmm. The first class that went through Tuskegee, the washout rate was 47%. They said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that'll never happen again. So they made sure they had a washout rate for us of 73% or higher, 10% higher than the white cadets. So that's the way of the product.
SPEAKER 08 :
And the reason is, though, is you were treated differently. It was tougher, yes?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, our rate could not be lower than the white cadets. That wouldn't look good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's why only 996 of us graduated. We would have had a lot more graduate. The class had to be on graduation day. One of the cadets had a spy on his trousers. They washed him out. Didn't have anything to do with his flying. None whatsoever. Now, Colonel Parrish, our commander at Tuskegee, used to go to Montgomery, Alabama, where they had a flying school. He'd tell the commander over there, we wash out better pilots at Tuskegee than you graduate over here, which is true. We lost a lot of good people.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. Colonel Harvey, the Tuskegee Airmen are also called the Red Tails, correct? Where did they get that name? Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
When they switched to P-51 for an escort mission, they decided to paint the tails on the aircraft red. Okay. Okay. Which aircraft did you fly for the competition, or were there different ones? Okay. It was a good aircraft, but obsolete.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And I've heard that pilots that flew P-51s, they loved that plane. That was a good airplane.
SPEAKER 09 :
And again, it depends on the mission. If you're air-to-air, P-51. If you're air-to-ground, no, you want the P-47.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Now, going to this washout rate that, in fact, there were Tuskegee Airmen that washed out that your commanding officer said are better than some of the guys over at this other base that they graduated. The Red Tails had an amazing reputation. And I talked to it was, again, either a bomber pilot or their child that said that the Red Tails saved their lives. I think it was a child. He said the Red Tails saved my father's life and that they would request the Red Tails escort whenever they could. So speak to that, Colonel Harvey.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Well, let me back up. I was at Oshkosh about 24 years ago. Manning a Tuskegee Airman. And this white guy came up and we started talking. And he was saying he knew a pilot. He knew a Luftwaffe pilot. And that Luftwaffe pilot was telling him, he said in their daily briefing, they were told, if you see a red tail, don't go in. Really? That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. So no wonder the bombers would, bombing pilots would request you. Okay, well, how long were you? Go ahead, sir. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Plus, we flew with the bombers through the flock and all. We stayed with them. And the flak, that's bad stuff. Anyway, we were working through the flak. So we stayed with the bombers. We didn't go running off trying to become aces.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, because the real purpose would be to escort the bombers so that they could get to their target. And, Colonel Harvey, I didn't really realize it until after I started doing these shows. You know, we've always heard, don't give me any flak. And I never really understood what that was until I learned what flak was. And, of course, the closer you get to the target, the more flak... would be shot up into the air to try to damage the aircraft, correct? Correct. Not damage it, shoot it down. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. And some bad stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so we've gotten through now to 1949. You and your team have won this competition, but we move into, quickly, the Korean War. So where did you end up during the Korean War?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. The meet happened in May of 49. In June of 49, I shipped out to Misawa, Japan. Eddie Drummond, who was another pilot in the 99th, he and I went to the same outfit in Misawa Square. So before we left Lockhorn, our 201 file had been sent to the commander of the outfit at Misawa. And in there was our pictures. So the commander called all the base pilots into the theater. And he said, we have these two Negro pilots coming in, and they'll be assigned to one of the squatters. Well, the pilots told us this and so on. They said, no way are we going to fly with them.
SPEAKER 10 :
No way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Eddie Drum and I report into the wing commander. That's how our base is planned. And we were chit-chatting, and he said, what do you want us to call you? And I said, well, I'm a first lieutenant. Eddie Drummond's a second lieutenant. How about lieutenants Harvey and Drummond? He said, okay, but that's what he was supposed to do anyway. See, at that time, we had two air forces, the White Air Force and the Negro Air Force. So I guess, I don't know what he was thinking, but anyway. But then he made a mistake. He said, we have three fighter squadrons on the base. Two T-51 squadrons and an F-80. F-80 is a jet. He said, which squadron do you want to go to? And I said, F-80. So he put his boat in the F-80 squadron. Now, they didn't have a T-33, which is a trainer version of the F-80. But they did have an AP-6, actually, for an advance. Now, in the backseat of the AP-6, you have a hood. You can pull it up, lock it in place. You can't see out. Now you can see your instruments. So what they had us do, I'll use myself as an example. I get two flights in this AP-6 in the backseat. I get in the backseat and strap in, pull my hood up. I can't see out. And the pilot up front, which is one of them, He calls the tower and gets instructions for us to taxi out and line up on the runway. So when he lines up on the runway, he says, okay, you've got it. In the meantime, I'm over there and I can't see out, and I stay under the hood. Okay, I run my power up, release my brakes, down the runway I go, get off the ground, pull up the gear, flaps, mix control, prop pitch, all the stuff you have to do in a conventional aircraft. I fly around doing maneuvers he wants me to do. Then I contact ground control approach, and they vector me in for a landing. And when I touch down on the runway, the pilot sort of takes over. I had two flights like that before we both did. So what does that have to do with flying the F-80? Nothing. This bothered me for years. Well, I finally figured it out. They wanted to see if we could fly. No matter where we went, we had to prove that we could fly. Anyway, that's that story. Okay. Before I took off on my first flight, I was on the maintenance line inspecting the aircraft, and the crew chief said, you're going to wave goodbye on takeoff. I said, oh. Anyway, I did not wave goodbye. The reason he said I would is because in the P-47, you have to push and pull to get the aircraft to do anything. You know, push and pull. I've talked about it on the stick. Make the ailerons move. And on a jet aircraft, it's just a little pressure. That's all. Very little pressure to get it to do what you want it to do. Anyway, I took off. I did not wave goodbye. He forgot I was a touch-key airman. We adapt very quick.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I still don't understand, though. Why did he say wave goodbye? To take your hands off the stick or what? Well, because you have to push and pull.
SPEAKER 09 :
You have to physically move the stick to get the aircraft to do anything. On a jet aircraft, it's just a little pressure. That's all. Yes, a little pressure to get him to do what you want him to do. That's the big difference. So you can over-control really easily. And I did not over-control.
SPEAKER 08 :
But he thought that you might. Is that right? He knew I was right. Oh. So you proved him wrong then, obviously. Yes. Right. Okay. Okay. Got it. I got it. Okay. We're going to continue the conversation here in just a moment with Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III. fascinating story about his military career. The shows come to you because of great sponsors, and one of those is Hooters Restaurants. They've been great sponsors of both my shows for many years, and they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, Colorado Springs, and And a great place to get together for lunch specials or happy hour specials Monday through Friday. And how I got to know them is a really important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. And you can find that at my website, KimMunson.com. So we will be right back with Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III.
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From the mountains to the prairies,
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. I am talking with Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III. He is a Tuskegee Airman, as well as he and his team were the winners of the very first Top Gun competition. And just a fascinating career. He will be celebrating his 100th birthday this year. Colonel Harvey, what about Korea? You flew missions in Korea. The Korean War is referred to as the Forgotten War, and a lot of people don't know that much about it. So tell us about your experience during the Korean War.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, I was stationed in Japan when the Korean War started. I think it was September 21st when it started. And we were at Osaka, Japan during memory competition or memory training, I should say. And then we immediately moved to Inazuki, Japan, which is the next island. And we operated out of there until I think it was September. And then we moved to Taegu, Korea. But... One commander was always talking to the Far East Air Force commander about a cutoff of missions where pilots could not defy any more missions over Korea. And Mickey was coming down. And finally on Christmas Day of 51, word came down that all he needed was 100 missions. Well, I had 126 then. I got that 126 in 89 days. I lived in that airplane. That was my mission. That's why I was there to fly missions over for you.
SPEAKER 08 :
And how many missions did you fly?
SPEAKER 1 :
126.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, my gosh. And what did the missions entail?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, we carried two items, well, three items. 50 caliber ammunition on all the missions. Plus, we carry either napalm or 500-pound bombs, depending on the mission. Now, if we were going against tunnels, where the North Koreans love to hide, we carry napalm. You drop the napalm, and napalm loves oxygen. So you drop the napalm at the entrance to the tunnel, And he would just suck all the oxygen out of the tunnel and the victims, whoever was in the tunnel. He'd get the oxygen and he used many now. The napalm took it off. It's a bad weapon that sometimes you have to use it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, 126 missions, and what did a mission look like? How many planes were there, you know, in the formation? What did that look like exactly?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Now, a mission, we were flying the F-80, and this was any four aircraft, any four aircraft would get off by themselves and come back. Okay. I'm a flight commander now in this outfit. Pilots said they weren't going to fly with me. I'm scheduling them to fly now. Anyway, I'm a flight commander and I have a flight of four, three others and myself. And we'd have a bombing mission or a napalm mission. It depends on what the target is. We know that before we take off. Anyway, we go out and extend our ammunition and come back alive. And that's our mission.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. How long were you in the Air Force, Colonel Harvey? 22 years. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was actually 21. I was one year in the Army my first year, and I was going to the flying school while I was still in the Army. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. What about Vietnam? Let's see. I'm trying to figure out. Were you maybe at the very beginning of the Vietnam War? You were still in the Air Force, or what was the timing of that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Vietnam, I was a reserve officer in the military, and I didn't know. They were probably data separations. But they didn't send me to Vietnam because I was too close to retirement.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. What would you like our listeners to know about the Korean War and the Vietnam War because, you know, just from your perspective of living through that time in our country? Well,
SPEAKER 09 :
There's an expression they use a lot more. They say, war is, and you fill in the blank. Yeah. But, which it is. But when you're flying, or any other job you have in the military, you do your job. And if everyone does their job, things will work out okay. No problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, as I'm thinking about your story, Colonel Harvey, so many times people may be in a job where they may not like their boss or their coworkers. And That actually is part of life. I mean, I'm thinking about your experiences where people were trying to wash you guys out. And in the military, you can't really choose who you're working with as far as your commanding officers and all. I mean, there's a real life lesson for people there that are currently unhappy with maybe some of the people that they are interfacing with. What would you say to them when they are in that experience?
SPEAKER 09 :
be a job. When I went to Newfoundland, I was working for a full tunnel. And he made the statement one day. He says, you don't care for me, do you? I said, no, sir. But I'll do the job for you. And I did. And what did he say? As long as I do the job, that's all I can say. That's all he wanted anyway for me to do the job for him. I don't have to like him to do the job for him. Me personally, maybe someone else does. I don't have to like you to work for you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Boy, there's a real maturity in that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm out to do the job the best of my ability. And here comes the perfectionist again. Anything I do, I want to do perfect. Perfect.
SPEAKER 08 :
I do want to ask you, you said you were a perfectionist until you got married. So how did that match up with you? Because I find that such an interesting and intriguing comment. So expound upon that a little bit.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Well, let's start it. My wife and I were using two separate bowls in the restroom, in the bathroom. Once we had another bathroom. And she was getting ready to brush her teeth. And she was squeezing the tube from the middle. You know, you grab the tube and squeeze it. You don't squeeze from the middle, you squeeze it from the bottom. She pulls out.
SPEAKER 08 :
You use the other bathroom. So it was, I will choose where I will squeeze the toothpaste, tube of toothpaste. That is, that is a, that's very, very funny. What, what's, Have I not asked you that you want to make sure that people know about this amazing, amazing career that you had, Colonel Harvey?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I didn't think it was. Well, I think about it and it was amazing. But, you know, I was just doing my job. That's all to the best of my ability. And perfection comes in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I realize with me that I can not hit perfection, but I do encourage me and those around me to strive for excellence in what we do. And if you strive for excellence, things work out pretty well over the long term, even though it's not easy. But striving for excellence will get you a long way down the road, Colonel Harvey. Yes, it will. It will.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, you don't have to go for perfection. That was my goal. My mantra, whatever you want to call it, strive for perfection. So, even today, like toilet tissue, you tear it off, and maybe there's a little piece left. You tear a little piece off.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gosh, now it's straight. What about your other Tuskegee Airmen? Who is one of them that stands out that you would like people to know about them?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, boy. Well, during my military, when they broke us up and scattered us, I only ran across one Tuskegee Airman of my own 21 years after that. Well, it was a year later. It was a couple years later. So I'd have to say 20. For 20 years, I never saw a testy year. I was at, when I left Japan and went to Victorville, California, one of them came into the squadron at Victorville, 94th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. He went flying F-86Ds. He came in, he was there about a year and he left. It's like that. Why he left, I don't know. But that's the only time I saw another Tuskegee in my whole career.
SPEAKER 08 :
Did you feel that finally, because you were so good, did you finally gain the respect of the other pilots? I mean, and I don't really want to put them all in a group because people react to things differently, but did you finally feel like you belonged or were part of it, or did that ever occur? It never occurred to me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I always thought I belonged. You don't like me here? Okay, get rid of me. But I never had any problems. I was liked, well liked. I did my job. I did my job better than they did.
SPEAKER 08 :
So what should they say? Nothing. Right. That would command respect in doing so. So again, to all of us out there, I take heart in striving for excellence and realizing that things, people say, do things we don't like. But if you stay focused, I think that's the other thing I'm hearing from you. Colonel Harvey is focused. You stayed focused on what was important. And I think people can get distracted too easily. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know. I never get to that point. I'm always focused.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that is true, that distraction and Lieutenant Colonel James H. Harvey III, those are not in the same sentence. Colonel Harvey, I thank you so much for this important interview. It's inspirational. I've learned a lot in my conversations with you, and I so thank you for the interview.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 08 :
And indeed, my friends, we do stand on the shoulders of giants. So God bless you and God bless America.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you for listening to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure to tune in again next Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m. here on KLZ 560 and KLZ 100.7. And KLZ 100 points.
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On this nostalgic episode of Drive Radio, we take you back to a time when signing up for a record club was as popular as a road trip playlist. Get ready to reminisce about those old-school car stereo systems, from cassettes to CD changers, and everything in between. Listen as we share memories, humorous anecdotes, and a few surprises along the way.
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All right, Hour 3, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Mark Guernsey, accountable up in Broomfield. Ken Rackley, Tune Tech in Aurora. And you can find all of our shops. Mark and Ken both go to drive-radio.com, drive-radio.com. You guys are sending me text messages. A couple of them I'll go over. One of them is, PSA, any of your listeners coming up to Cheyenne for Frontier Days? This was the fourth. Showing me a picture of a trooper. Fourth state trooper I've seen in 12 miles on I-25 from the state line. They also have a few unmarked pickup trucks that are working I-25 today as well. So, yeah, any of you that are going up to Cheyenne Frontier Days, watch. I guess keep your speed in check is what he's really trying to say there. And then somebody also was giving me some examples of – Different merchants that seem to struggle at customer service, and the question is why? I wish I could answer that, other than they're just morons. I don't know. I don't know why in today's world you would not want to give good customer service with all of the social media that can talk bad about you. Why you would not give good customer service in today's world is, frankly, it is beyond me. I don't have an answer for that, other than you're just an utter moron.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, right, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
People are going to know you don't give good service. Right. Why would you want that reputation? And in this case, it happened to be Les Schwab up in Cheyenne not giving good service. I'll say it. I could care less. I don't have any ties to Les Schwab. Why would you be a chain like that and not give good service?
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Makes no sense to me whatsoever. I don't understand that. So anyways, thank you, by the way, for those comments and letting us know, because I guess I would find somewhere else to go if it were me up there. Terry in Arvada, you're next.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good morning. Oh, I'm sorry. Good afternoon.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. Switched over. I'm running behind. We bought a 2000 Chrysler Town and Country brand new. And it came with a CD player in the stereo. And we didn't own any CDs at the time. So we asked them if they could switch it out for a cassette player. And they said, yeah, but we can't guarantee the dash won't rattle. So we kept the CD player and converted. And then I bought a 2004 Toyota Tundra. And now I'm still driving it. And it has AM, FM, CD, and cassette. All in the one unit. Wow. And so I don't have any cassettes anymore.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what? I actually still do. I don't know why. I guess over the years I've just kept them in the container that they were in, and they're just still kicking around somewhere up in the attic. But I haven't listened to one in quite some time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. I remember my first cassette that I got even. I think I still have it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Really? Uh-huh. That's cool.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
Did you ever join the Columbia Records? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Ten free for a dollar.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. We all have stories of exiting the Columbia whatever it was, music club or whatever. They were like the mafia running that thing.
SPEAKER 11 :
You couldn't get out.
SPEAKER 14 :
There was no way they let you out of that contract.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can't get out.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
Thank you, gentlemen. You have a great program.
SPEAKER 14 :
You too. No, Terry, thank you. Yeah, I belong to that. I've talked about that on The Daily Show before and made fun of it because I think all of us back in the day were a part of the Columbia Records, you know, whatever, whatever. Yeah, you joined for one buck and you got so many tapes for free or for the buck and then you had to sign up for the whatever it was, you know, $14.99 or $9.99 a month or whatever it was after that. Man, that thing lasted indefinitely because if you wanted to get out of that thing, good luck. I think... I think the only reason I was able to get out of that is... And my dad had to help me because when I initially signed up, I don't think I've ever told you this story, Charlie. So the way I got out of the Columbia record thing was I think I signed up, I was like 14.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you weren't an age.
SPEAKER 14 :
I wasn't an adult. I wasn't technically able to sign into any kind of a contract. So by the time I was like, I don't know, 17 or 18 and wanted out of that thing three or four years later, I think my dad helped me. We wrote a letter that basically said, well, guess what? When I initially signed up for that and no adult had signed on the contract, I was actually able to get out for that reason, that reason alone. But man alive, they did not want to let you out of that thing at all. And it was amazing. I signed up when I was like 14. I was way ahead of my time. At that time, I was already working, had my own money and all that kind of stuff, so it wasn't that big of a deal. And I paid for all of them after that. Right. And then I remember when CD, I think that's why I wanted out of the Tape of the Month thing was CDs started to come out. And I just realized that I'm not going to switch over to CDs. I can just buy whatever I want. I don't need this Tape of the Month Club thing anymore. And you guys all remember the Tape of the Month thing is, you know, the first few you got was what you selected. And then after that, they were all crap.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Random people you didn't want to listen to. Yeah, the stuff that you got. I mean, Charlie probably remembers. The stuff you got was stuff you'd never listen to anyways. You could just throw it in the trash. It was all garbage. Right. But, yeah, we were all part of that. So, Terry, thanks for the memory. Or maybe not thanks.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do remember our 04 truck. It still had a tape. It was an LTZ, and it had both. It had CD and cassette. Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
It had one up above, and the CD was down below, above the center console.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They had the pocket, and then the CD player was right below that, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
If I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then when we went in for the 08 truck, it was...
SPEAKER 14 :
Somebody said changers under the seat even you could get.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're right. Yeah, you could load.
SPEAKER 14 :
You could do like a 10 disc or something under the seat.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and then we got another LTZ in 08 after the other one got totaled, and it's like, no cassette?
SPEAKER 14 :
They were like, nope. And what I remember, at least on the GM ones, was the changers under the seat, they didn't work so well because if you hit a really large bump, they skipped. Right, right. Where the dash ones had a better shock absorbing or something, but the ones under the seat, the changers, they did not. They would skip all over the place if you hit a really hard bump.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, we were talking about that old record player in the Chrysler. I'll bet that skipped a lot. How do you keep that from skipping?
SPEAKER 14 :
I have no clue.
SPEAKER 09 :
You've got to have a smooth road. Who thought that was a good idea? In the 50s.
SPEAKER 14 :
I didn't look this up. You guys did. Did it take 45s only?
SPEAKER 09 :
Did you put full albums in? I think there were two options. 45 was one option. Others had a full-size record in there. It pulls out underneath the dash. But with that 45, you could listen to both sides.
SPEAKER 10 :
It sounded like it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, because it said it did something from the bottom.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's got needles on both sides.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you could listen to two songs on your three-hour drive. Well, maybe that holds it in place.
SPEAKER 14 :
Two songs. I'm guessing that if you have one of those, it's extremely rare and probably valuable today. I'm guessing if you've got one of those right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and it looked like it was only in the high-end cars and stuff like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it wasn't. It was an add-on feature that you paid a lot more for. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I'm guessing so.
SPEAKER 10 :
I look like it was standard on a new New Yorker St. Regis or something like that. So like the top end of the top end.
SPEAKER 14 :
And there's a lot of things I know about or have seen pictures of and so on. That is an item I've never seen in real life. Oh, no. I mean, I've seen a lot of the old swamp cooler type air conditioners and those sorts of things. I've never seen one of those players ever.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you Google the record player, it comes up as 1956, and that's the only year it shows up as.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's one of those items I've never seen in person.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and how many of those cars are still around? You know, I mean, there's probably not. I mean, they weren't a sports car, so they didn't really. There were four doors and stuff like that. But, yeah, we were talking. Yeah, that record player would be way more distracting than texting. Yeah, somebody also just texted. Don't flip the record while you're driving.
SPEAKER 14 :
And Mark might remember this even. Do you remember the aftermarket CD players like the single double dens where you took the face off so they didn't get stolen?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah, right. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
They had a little button you take them with. They had a little carrying case thing. You'd put them in the pouch thing or the little hardened case that you'd take with you into wherever you're going so nobody stole your radio.
SPEAKER 10 :
Or they had the whole Panasonic thing that the whole radio pulled out. You carried it around with a handle. Yeah, right, exactly. I forgot about those. Yeah, the whole thing slid out. Yeah, I think it was Panasonic. Yeah, you'd carry that thing around.
SPEAKER 09 :
Then they had a model where it looked like the face came down and it looked like you had taken the face cover off. But it was still there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, when you shut the key off, it just kind of folded. It just flips down and covers it up. And then some of them would hide.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. There you go. Okay. All right. I forgot about all that. They tried everything.
SPEAKER 14 :
Al, we'll get your comment on radios. Don't go anywhere. And lines are open, by the way. Any of you have comments on that, by all means, let us know. 303-477-5600. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 14 :
Three deuces and a four-speed, most guys can't tune one carburetor, nonetheless three.
SPEAKER 10 :
I wouldn't attempt. I don't have the time to try to attempt that. There were special tools for those back in the day. Yeah, right, that vacuum and all kinds of different stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I actually have one with all the stuff that, you know, because my dad did a lot of that stuff. And so, yeah, I actually have one of the tools you need to balance those out properly.
SPEAKER 12 :
Sure, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's very, very interesting.
SPEAKER 12 :
Crazy.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it is crazy, actually. So 303-477-5600 is our studio line. We'll take more calls. We have one line open. Alan Lakewood, you're next.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hi, John. Hey, Al. I just wanted to add a comment. I remember back in high school I had a Volkswagen Beetle. It had an AM radio. And I went to Radio Shack and I got an FM converter.
SPEAKER 14 :
An FM converter. How did that work?
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't know. I guess maybe I just, you know, it brought a tune into the radio that was FM signal and the amplifier from whatever that little radio.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so dumb question. How did you tune the FM side?
SPEAKER 16 :
It had a little FM tuner, just like you'd have with the little AM.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I could get FM radio, and then I realized I needed a set of rear speakers also.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I pulled some wires, and I had four speakers.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I mean, back in the day, as you guys all know, and I know young people hate hearing that, but anyways, back in the day. I'm going to say it anyways. And radio shops, as you know, Al, and all you guys, I mean, that was big business. Radio shops made a ton of money back in the day doing all of the upgrades, the speakers, adding the tweeters, the amps, the subwoofers, and all of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Some of them still exist, but not near as many. I mean, I'll bet it's a tenth that are out there from what it used to be.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, all those different components are all combined into one now. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the factory sound systems are not half bad.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, they're actually.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you get what you needed at Radio Shack, and, of course, they're long gone. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
I love Radio Shack as a kid. I could spend hours in there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, there was a guy down in Cherry Creek, like second in university, I think it was Western Radio. And he had this little radio shop, and he'd help you out with stuff. But I think he sold that piece of property for like $5 million. Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hell yeah, right then. Good for him. That's right. Good retirement. Yeah, good for him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 14 :
You bet, Al. No, thank you, by the way. Good memories. The FM, that add-on to a radio, that's new to me. I did not know that.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's something I had not seen. Those Volkswagens, they had one speaker. That was it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they had one speaker.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think it was speedometers here, and I think the speaker's over here, and the radio's here. Gotcha. That's all they had.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're calling it a converter, but it's almost an add-on.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. All right. Rob, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, guys. Hey, Bob. You guys have got some good stuff going on. Thank you, thank you. I'm a senior citizen. I haven't talked to you in a long time, but I've got old cars and stuff. But with all those electronic gizmos, when I was a teenager, I was messing with them all the time. And early on, what happened was the record industry decided that they wanted to do something for blind people. I know if you wonder where I'm going with this one. But what happened was they created the 16 RPM speed, the slowest one. Some of the force speed players that are made during the 60s still had the 16 RPM. So you got a lot more, but it's mostly four voice, not classical music or anything like that. So what they did was they converted, they created, so why we could put more on a record and they started with Chrysler and the other companies. I don't remember exactly how many got into it right away, but the first ones were 16 RPM players in the cars.
SPEAKER 14 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you had to buy a special record, you couldn't put it down. You know, and get a 45 out of your pile, you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, 33 and a third.
SPEAKER 15 :
So then they decided.
SPEAKER 14 :
So hang on really quick. I just want to make sure I understand this. And they did it slow, I'm guessing, so that as the car moved and might have bounced or whatever, it wasn't as much of an impact. Am I thinking correctly?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that's a good point. But the move was very small. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
They could put more songs on a record.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Yep. Okay, that makes sense. Correct. Shocking. Oh, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're right. gouging their records. So then when they finally got to the 45, you would shove them into the top and it would play upside down. I think the Big 16 did upside down. I can't remember. But I was trying to help a guy in my Skyliner club. I have an old Skyliner. And he wanted to put one in his car. I said, are you nuts? There's too many other things you can use. And he shows me this thing. It was a total disaster. But it did use FM conversion. And it would be mono conversion FM. Oh, no, I'm sorry, AM. So it would go into your AM radio. It would come out on a frequency like 1420 or something like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's how you got it into the speaker.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 1 :
Huh.
SPEAKER 14 :
I had that, and that I don't know anymore. You guys are teaching me today because that's stuff I did not know.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. I got gadgets. I've got restored radios downstairs that I did. I did a 49 Zenith. It's just awesome. That's cool. Because I was a kid and I blew one up. So I said one time, someday I'm going to find one of those and recreate what I damaged.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
It was just like, anyway, but going back to the car, you know, you had the adapters also for FM. That was easy and cheap if you only had an AM radio. But they didn't have stereo, you know, FM early either.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So then you come on with, I found something at a swap meet I had never seen before. It was a Panasonic 8-track. Okay, who the heck wants that? But it was a really cool-looking thing, and it had a slide-out mount, so somebody couldn't steal it. You put it under your dash. Now you're going into more like the late 60s. And I got the guy down for $10, because I said, I know I'm going to have to work on it to find parts. But it was really cool. On the front, it had an FM radio part to it. You could press a button, and it would play FM stereo.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, yeah, so I put that in my ex.
SPEAKER 14 :
Very cool. There you go. While you're on, Rob, really quick, somebody texted in and said, who remembers reverberators installed in the trunk to power rear speakers?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, going over a bump, ka-bang, ka-bang.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, there you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
I had one, too.
SPEAKER 14 :
There you go.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, don't go over, you go on the bumps on purpose just to entertain your friends. See that? Because the spring would fly around, you know, it was subjected to vibration. If you, you know, if you pumped, if you went out and pushed up and down on the trunk of the car to make the trunk wiggle around, especially side to side, you know, kind of sound. Oh, gee. Anyway. So I'll end it at that point. That's cool. All the gadgets were just so funny, you know. Amazing. But with this FM thing, I was able to pump it into a power amp, you know, boost the sound. And the 8-tracks are great. Because if you're in good condition, they'll play okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Good to know.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, guys.
SPEAKER 14 :
Rob, thanks. No, appreciate it. Charlie, this is more of a question for you. Somebody's asking, is AM still in HD? Do we still do HD here? That's what I thought. So, yeah, if you have an HD radio, we still here on KLZ. We do HD broadcasting. So, yes, all of our stations. So that question, Legends, which we do music on, sounds great. But, yeah, if you're asking that question, yes, we still. If you have an HD AM radio, we broadcast in HD here at KLZ. Mickey, you're next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Oh, the other guy got the 200 transmitting radio. The FM tuner transmitted on 1400 AM.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you had to tune your AM radio to 1400. And I'm guessing because very few stations actually are in that 1400 range, and if they are, they're usually a very weak signal, so you're probably able to pick up what's closer, meaning that's why they went that way. Most people don't know this mickey you probably do but for those of you listening that may not know this anything on the left of the dial on am like 560 has a much stronger signal even for the same wattage that you would have on the far right side of the dial so you would need 10 times the power at 1400 as you would for 560 because of the way the am signal works i learn something every day that's why our signal on 560 is so strong sure makes sense
SPEAKER 05 :
And since the other guy stole my thunder, one more audio wonder was 8-track converters where you could put a cassette in the – Oh, yeah, that I did know about.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I remember those. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Thought I'd throw that one in.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, no, I remember that, Mickey. That part I do remember. Yeah. Okay. Thanks, Mickey. Appreciate it. Yeah, so for those of you that maybe didn't know that, a lot of radio guys I think do, and I only know that just from being around here in Charlie as much as – as i have been but yeah the way the am dial works is anything on the left of the dial is always stronger as you get further to the right you need more power to equal what's on the left hand side of the dial i mean i'm not joking you would need charlie correct me if i'm wrong but if you're a 1400 signal versus so we're we're 565 000 watts if you go all to the right of the dial at 1400 you'd need at least 50 000 watts to equal what we do with 5 000 watts Or maybe more. I mean, as you go to the right of the dial, the signal is much weaker and harder to get out there as opposed to where we are on the far – we're the first signal on the dial here in the whole Denver, Cheyenne, Wyoming, Nebraska. That's why we reached all those different states. And we're 102 years old. Also, for those of you that don't know this – 560 and KLZ, three letters. The older the radio station or signal is three letters because as there's more stations, they had to add that fourth letter.
SPEAKER 10 :
Makes sense.
SPEAKER 14 :
So that's why we're 100 plus years old because it's KLZ.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Well, and I just remember it as a kid, you know, it was 56 KLZ. Right. You know, I just remember that, you know, my dad.
SPEAKER 14 :
I still have an old belt buckle from back in the day that says KLZ 560 on it. Yeah. Which again, and in KLZ, as you all know, through those, all of those years, we've gone through, you know, many things. changes, I guess you could say, even some ownership changes, and was country for a while, was ESPN for a while, and so on, and now we've been our format now for, gosh, quite some time, 15 years or so now probably. I've been here 11 during the week, and we've been Drive Radio since 2008, so we've been here on this station for quite some time and are very comfortable here. And Mr. Crawford's owned this for 32 years. Wow, nice. Anyway, so we'll be back, guys. We'll take a quick break here. We've got a car review that we'll play here in a moment as well, but we'll be back right after that. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560. All right, so it is that time where we do a review on a weekly basis. So, Richard, what have you driven lately?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, so it drove kind of in that electric vehicle side of things, a 2025 Volvo XC90, Dad. This was the plug-in hybrid version, so it gives you about 40 miles worth of range on a single charge, which for a lot of people is sufficient, especially if there's even charging at your office or you've got the capabilities to charge do whatever you need to do. Again, you can go 40 miles on electric only, and then it switches seamlessly to its hybrid powertrain, even charges the battery a little bit as you're going. It's got a lot of flexibility. This is a luxury SUV, Dad, right? This is Volvo's three-row SUV, but it is a luxury car. I don't want people to mistake that and think that this is a great value. This car, as we tested it with about $89,000, I think just a hair underneath that. But again, you get that Swedish luxury, right? You get really nice apportionments on the inside, heated and ventilated seats. You've got captain's chairs, I think, that are heated in the second row. You've got a third row. Granted, when you put that up, you don't have a ton of room. in the, you know, very back for cargo or whatever it might be. But you've got the third row if you need it. And you get the styling, right? This is a really pretty car. It's a fun car to drive. Its lines look great. And this car, Dad, is something that Volvo's Well, they've been doing for a while now. And I think, let me pull up my facts here. It was introduced in 2016. They've got some new trim level names for 2025. But for the most part, Dad, they've kind of just done some subtle redesigns to this car. And that's because it's done really well for them. And it really attracts kind of the right type of buyer, which is, again, you need to carry around four people, maybe five, and still have some cargo room because you can split that third row up. And that the benefit of these plug-in hybrids over the all-electric vehicles that are out there is you have the capability of just charging from a normal 110-volt outlet, right? Just plug this car in. And overnight, in most cases, I think it'll probably charge straight from your outlet, right? As long as you give it about 10, 12 hours to charge. I don't have the exact figures in front of me. Now, if you do have a level 2 charger, I think this thing will go from basically zero miles to about 40 miles. all within, I don't know, maybe two, three hours, Dad, right? These plug-in hybrids, because these are just such a much smaller battery pack, right, than compared to their full EV counterparts. And so, folks, while this used to qualify for some different rebates and things like that, but the benefit of this is, like a lot of the cars in this segment and even other segments, is if you want that flexibility to say, hey, I'm not going very far today, or maybe my commute's 20 miles one way, even with picking up the kids, dropping them off, or maybe it's about 50 each day. Well, you're only using 10 miles of gas only. You can probably go maybe even two, three weeks on just charging this car, Dad, right, not having to put fuel in it.
SPEAKER 14 :
and i think there's a benefit there and you've driven these volvos in the past the luxury really is nice on these on these swedish made vehicles luxury safety of course volvo well known for their safety and how they actually build the vehicle it's one of the safest vehicles on the road i mean i would not hesitate to buy one of their vehicles i do like the plug-in hybrid version uh probably more than i do even though i'm a standard ev you know car owner i like the plug-in hybrid because you kind of get the best of both worlds meaning if you want to take a trip across the country knock your socks off, go for it. If there's some places to plug in along the way, so be it. If not, you can still go coast to coast very easy, just like you could in a regular internal combustion engine vehicle because it has one of those on it. It is a true hybrid, but yet it's plug-in, meaning that you get that benefit of that 40-mile range or so around town where, like you said, Richard, a lot of people would never even have the regular gas engine come on in most cases because if they charge nightly, that that normal charge daily would be sufficient for them to go to and from work, school, whatever it is. And by the way, do it in complete luxury and style and safety at the same time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nope, absolutely. And last thing I'll say is, like you say, again, folks, price point, about $88,000, $89,000. It is a luxury SUV. Don't get it confused. However, it's a car that the warranty kind of proves that, Dad, with what they've done. And like you say, the safety is sort of second to none. That's kind of what they became known on. And they just put a lot of nice creature comfort. They actually redesigned the infotainment display, Dad. It made it easier to use. And for those of you that have listened to our past reviews on Volvo, that's maybe the only biggest complaint we've had. It's an easier-to-use interface. Really cool how they've integrated CarPlay and Android Auto into there, all that. So if you want to learn more about this, folks, hit your local Volvo dealer, test drive this vehicle, get your family in it, ask questions about the EV side of it, those sorts of things. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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SPEAKER 14 :
All right, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And today we sort of transitioned into... The whole car radio end of things, which was not my plan today, which is fine. I mean, whatever you guys want to talk about, we're in, and it brings back memories. And it's been a long time since I even went back and thought about all the different radio things that were happening. Now, I will say this, and maybe Ken and Mark both can relate. So as a kid, with all the cars I had, and fast cars and different things and so on, I guess budgetarily speaking is why I never went to any of the big radio shops and spent big dollars, even though I probably could have. I never spent money doing all of the big subwoofers and big speakers and tweeters and all the fancy sound systems and so on. And it wasn't because I didn't like music and all that. I spent money on fast cars. So I would rather have a set of headers or exhaust or an intake or carburation or whatever else I could do, and I didn't spend money on the radio side of it. I spent it on how fast can I go. You know, there's an old saying, speed costs money, how fast can you afford to go?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I spent all my money trying to go fast, and I didn't really care so much about the sound quality of the stereo. It's not that I didn't have a decent stereo, but I did all that stuff myself. I would buy a pre-done deck, and I did my own speakers and wired them, but I never went as far as building all of the amps and all of that stuff. I just never went down that path. I was more into how fast can I go.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that was my – that's how I rolled too. I wanted loud music, but it's like, you know what, I need this car to run good.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly. I was more about I want to build the next engine.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm not so worried about – Nobody's talking about, oh, yeah, your radio sounds really good, but, yeah, he blew your doors off.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right? Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
I was more of that than I was into the radio.
SPEAKER 10 :
You sounded really good behind me. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
He's a good one, by the way. Jeff, you're next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, good morning again. You're welcome, Jeff. Do you remember the radios that had the little triangles on them, three triangles on the dial? As you would tune back and forth, there would be three spots in the radio. Those were part of an emergency broadcast.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I remember those. Yeah, that was the emergency thing, right? Emergency broadcast.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. It was a civil defense frequency during the Cold War. And they kind of went away in the 60s and 70s because now every radio station has the emergency alert system. And you'll hear that little beep, beep, beep that comes on. So every station is part of that. Interestingly, they had to switch those transmitter frequencies around. locations around because they were afraid that Soviet bombers might home in on the signals, use them as a way to home in.
SPEAKER 14 :
That I did not know. I had no idea.
SPEAKER 17 :
Also, there's four different, they've gone through a bunch of changes over the years, but there's four different levels of certification for AM radio stations. A, B, C, and D. And the higher ones are the ones that can do the 50,000 watt low torques. I don't know if KLZ goes up to 50,000. No, we're 5.
SPEAKER 1 :
10,000.
SPEAKER 14 :
We're B.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, DR, we have a little Catholic radio station broadcast in the valley here. It probably goes two miles, three miles or so. It's like, I don't know how many, 10 watts maybe? Probably, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, again, those 50,000-watt blowtorches were meant to be able to send the signal all over the United States in case of an emergency alert to make sure everybody could get it, so. And interestingly enough, there's an AM station I listen to down in Missoula that's on the exact same frequency as a country station somewhere in the United States. It could be in the south for all I know, but it gets completely overwhelmed at night. Got it. If you go outside the city, because I think the one in Missoula can broadcast at 500 watts, maybe 1,000. And the southern one's $50,000, so it doesn't even hold up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Charlie said it's possible it's Mexico because they can run a million watts because they're not regulated the same way we are.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I don't know. It could be Mexico, but I don't know that they play American country.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, you'd be surprised. Absolutely they do. No, literally they do. I've been down there and tuned the dial on the rental car and so on, and, oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Keep in mind, there's a lot of Americans that live in those areas, and they're the ones that have money.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, yeah, except that there have been some demonstrations in Mexico City about the tourists who came down here.
SPEAKER 14 :
There has been in Mexico City, but that is, by the way, that's an anomaly because the rest of the areas understand tourism very well, including the cartels.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Yeah, sometimes the cartels get it wrong, though. Some idiot in the cartel hasn't gotten the message.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, sometimes, although I will tell you that for a lot of the touristy areas, Cabo specifically, those guys understand tourism very well. My feeling is, and I don't want to get off track here, but my feeling is they own some of the resorts and so on. It's how they launder some of the money, and they understand tourism very well and need it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. I can appreciate that. Yeah, and interesting car story to get back on track. A guy I worked for lived in Italy for a while, and they would break into cars to steal radios. And he had a, I don't want to say a 66 convertible, Mustang convertible. and he just had an ordinary AM radio in it. So he would lead the top down because he didn't want anybody cutting through his convertible pop. He just lead the top down and let people see it's an AM radio. Don't bother to go in. It's not worth stealing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was his death deterrent.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was the deterrent. Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense. Good story. Jeff, I appreciate it. Let me take Brent before we go to our last break. Brent, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hi. And so I talked to you guys about a while ago, probably eight, nine months ago, and I have a Ford fusion. And when I was doing the leak down test, um, I found that the four-cylinder was not good. You guys told me maybe put some stuff in it and see if that fixed it. Well, come to find out, I believe that the problem was actually it was out of time. The belt had actually slipped. When I parked it and I drove in the driveway and I bounced the car getting up inside my garage, I couldn't restart it. And I was like, whoa. So I retimed the whole thing, pulled it back out, put it in a different location so I could actually work on it throughout. But I decided I'm going to do a check down. So I checked all that. Everything seems fine now. But I'm still getting this low EcoBoost problem. But if I do a manual shift, if I shift the car manually, it does not pop up. But if I let the car decide to shift, it can't figure out how to quite, I think, figure out how to shift. So then it throws in a weird state, and then it thinks it has low boost and throws the code. The next thing is that also when I was manually shifting, it was fine. I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm getting hot in the car. So I turn on the AC, and then that triggered the same response. So I don't know if there's an actual problem or it's more now there's A computer. All the leak down tests that I did were close to 90%.
SPEAKER 14 :
You had a turbo issue or something too, wasn't it?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that's what it says. It says low turbo boost.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, that's what I remember. Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. Low boost or something, right? That's what the code is, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, that's what the code is. And I replaced all the... I'm going back to memory, and I remember the...
SPEAKER 14 :
the calls and such brent and i would say that in and i'll let mark and and ken chime in on this but i would think you've got more of a computer control issue going on as much as anything especially if you can shift manually and everything works fine i would say you've got something going on you know in the ecm body control module something along those lines okay And this is one where you really need a good, solid scan tool, not code reader, on it while this stuff is going on to determine what is the computer actually reading and doing in response.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I do have a live monitor. I paid like $500 for this monitor. The problem is I'm not sure how to read something like that.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's where, yeah, and I should follow through with, it's not just the scan tool itself. It's the person reading. Interpreting.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's like anything else where you look at a Wall Street trader and you see all this information that's on the screen and it looks great and it's there, but unless you know what it means, it doesn't mean anything to anybody else.
SPEAKER 10 :
It doesn't mean anything, right. So if you go back into your freeze frame, when it sets that code, Sometimes it will tell you what it's seeing wrong, depending on what kind of software you're using. Go back into your freeze frame and see when it set that code and see what... The parameters were. Yeah, see what the parameters were when it set that. I mean, is it... Yeah, just have to see what might be off in that if it shows it. It might not even show anything there, but... yeah there's just a lot of live recording and then once it hits that then pull over and then go back and freeze frame that well you can do that but most of the software yeah most of the software you can access freeze frame because the computer is doing that stops that anyway yeah it stores that anyway yeah okay yeah your your scan tool will have that we'll pull that from the computer right exactly
SPEAKER 14 :
It's not the scan tool doing the freeze frame. It's the ECM doing that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. The ECM stores that any time a code is set.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you can retrieve the data.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so you can get that data when it actually happened.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because they created a permanent code in there. So then that data should be there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that freeze frame should be in there, and you can go back and access that, see if there's something way out of it. way out of whack on that. And then, you know, whether it be a sensor or if there's actual boost pressure that's low, something like that. I mean, could be the turbo starting to fail. Or does it have a new turbo on it?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it doesn't. But, I mean, I've put cameras behind there to see if the wastegate is staying open. Sure. And it's not. It's moving around. It's moving freely.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's closing all the way, everything.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I've felt all the way around the turbo to see if there's like a leak or something, hot air coming out somewhere while I'm revving it up and having somebody up top underneath the car probably, you know, but not the best idea, but... things like that, and I've got nothing. And then, like I said, I put it in manual, and she wants to go like she's, like, how she used to want to go. But I put her in drive, and it's like, oh, I'm ready to go. And then, like, not even more than three minutes later, it, like, can't figure itself out and starts not knowing what to do. And then, boop, the code comes back up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Yeah. And, you know, it could even be, like, a software issue, you know, more updated software for that. I mean, there's a lot of things that can, can sure cause those. I know on some of them, not necessarily the Fords, but on some of them, you know, we see a lot of turbo failures start that way, you know, to where they're just not boosting like they should. Yeah. Yeah. Intermittent. Well, not so much intermittent, just, it just catches it in that particular, you know, in drive instead of, you know, actually shifting it manually or whatever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, that's your next step. Brent, I've got to run to a break. Work that out. Let me know how that goes. You know how to get a hold of me. We've emailed back and forth on some things, so you can do that as well. We'll come back in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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Well, I left Kentucky back in 49 and went to Detroit working on assembly line. The first year they had me putting wheels on Cadillacs. Every day I'd watch them beauties roll by and sometimes I'd hang my head and cry, cause I always wanted me one that was long and black. One day I devised myself a plan that should be the envy of most any man. I'd sneak it out of there in the lunchbox in my hand. Now getting caught meant getting fired, but I figured I'd have it all by the time I retired. I'd have me a car worth at least a hundred grand. I'd get it one...
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep, one piece at a time, Johnny Cash and Mark was saying earlier, he had a big lunchbox.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let's just say that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, car parts are not that small.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, no, you're not building a whole car out of your lunchbox. But anyways, it's a great song, and Johnny Cash. and a lot of you uh mentioning other songs and as well today and charlie's played a lot of those today so thank you by the way i appreciate that very much thanks for all the text messages it's been been a lot of fun and you know kind of getting off on the whole you know sound system radio end of things which you know one thing leads to another but it's been good we haven't talked about some something along those lines i don't know that we've ever covered the whole you know audio end of things with different radios and all of the different things and thinking about what's transpired over all the years and and i meant what i said earlier when it comes to the new cars of today i will give the the factory credit of course they're wanting you to not go to the aftermarket to do all the radio sound systems and they become so integrated now into the rest of the vehicle to where the head units themselves are working in combination with the ecm and it's all together so it's very hard now to even make those changes that we did But to their credit, the sound that comes out of them is so much better now than it was when we were kids. I know it's not perfect, but the need to go to the radio shop and have upgrades made just aren't there like they used to be.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't need to rattle the windows anymore. Yeah. Not as much. Those days are gone. Depends on the day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly so. Ken Rackley, Toontech Automotive. Thank you very much, as always. Appreciate you. Thanks, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Give your number really quick.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, 303-364-3391. And Mark from Accountable, same thing. Give us your number.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's 303-460-9969. All right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Appreciate you guys very much. Charlie, Larry, you guys as well. Thank you. Everybody have a fabulous weekend. If you're listening to a replay of this on Sunday, thank you for that as well. Don't forget, you can always text the question 307-200-8222. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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