John and Richard provide an in-depth analysis of the 2025 Volkswagen Jetta, examining its performance, practicality, and potential as a starter car. With fuel efficiency, affordability, and modern features at the forefront, learn why the Jetta is a versatile automobile that's worth your consideration. Whether you're looking for a first-time vehicle or a reliable everyday car, this episode offers valuable insights.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. That time of the week where we do some car reviews. And Richard, you drove a Volkswagen Jetta not that long ago. Talk about that, if you would.
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Yeah, Dad, this is one of our cars. Well, you know, we had some friends growing up that this was a really fun car, and they've changed in a good way, Dad, and I'm going to talk about it. So, yeah, 2025 Volkswagen Jetta, Dad. This is the 1.5T SEL with the four-cylinder engine, front-wheel drive with driving mode selection. This car, Dad, all in with, I guess, let me see here. Yes, with Destination in the different paint color, which was actually a really pretty, they call it Monument Gray, is $30,680, which is hard to do, Dad. It's an updated exterior, redesigned 8-inch touchscreen. Unfortunately, there's no longer manual option available, at least on the lower trims. But, Dad, this is part of the seventh generation Jetta, and this is one of, I guess, my favorite cars to drive just in general because it just works so well. It runs really well, even on our altitude. It just operates. The Volkswagen infotainment system is easy to use. You don't have a whole lot of buttons. You're trying to figure out where this thing goes. You've got different trim levels, Dad. They've done this with the Jetta for a long time. This is the top of the line, and you can get an S trim. jetta dad for about 23 000 just a little bit over 23 and in this case for about 30 000 all in full equipped which is really hard in today's market that considering i think the average new car is closer to the 45 or 50 000 mark this is really exceptional fuel economy 29 and 40 for an average of 33 and that's something that we were able to achieve again 158 horsepower um turbocharged one and a half liter four cylinder which works really really well um it's it's not the largest sedan out there dad but i was able to have two kids in the back seat and they were able to kind of climb in and out and do what they needed to do i don't know if you're going to fit four full-size adults in there but just it's again it's not meant to do that right this is Well, I guess you tell me. I don't know if you would refer to this as a starter car, but to me that's kind of how it feels, right? This is a great kind of first car start.
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Yeah, I mean, it might be a little larger. I mean, it depends on the person. I guess it would be the way to look at that, Richard. Could it be a starter car? Absolutely. It's a little bigger than what probably most would use as a starter car, although not so big that it couldn't be considered one. And price-wise, yeah, absolutely it could be.
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And that's kind of the point for me. We could kind of sit here and talk about the features and stuff on it all day. It's very user-friendly. It's got charging ports all over the place. I already mentioned easy-to-operate system. The dash is a digital cluster, and you can kind of change it, and they've got some different views and modes on there. Honestly, Dad, if folks are looking for a car like this that gets good fuel economy, it's front-wheel drive, which here in Colorado, Dad, would operate easily. you know, pretty, you know, honestly, in most of the conditions that we have. It's got the eight-speed automatic transmission on this car, and you can do the different paddle shifting. I would encourage folks to check this vehicle out, Dad, because it may fly under the radar. And so if they do that, head to the local Volkswagen dealer and let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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This is John Rush from Rush to Reason and Drive Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Check out more of our podcasts at RushToReason.com or Drive-Radio.com.
Rick Hughes addresses the importance of developing spiritual discernment and wisdom in daily life. As the nation faces challenges that threaten the spiritual upbringing of youth, Hughes emphasizes how accurate content and parental guidance can foster discernment and avert spiritual complacency. Through engaging anecdotes and scriptural references, listeners are guided on how to align their spiritual journey with God's ultimate plan for their lives.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flotline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, you have a cordial invitation to stick around and listen to 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education, but never any manipulation. We don't con people. We're not trying to hustle your money. We're not asking you to join anything. Simply want you to listen. Listen so I can verify and identify the plan of God for your life. And if I can do that, you have the freedom, the privilege to orient and adjust to the plan should you decide to do so. But this show, The Flatline, is always designed to remind you of biblical truths and introduce you to a different way of studying and learning God's Word. Remember what I tell you every Sunday morning, that God gave you two ends. One of those ends you sit on and one of those ends you think with. And success in your life will depend on which one you use. Heads, you'll win. Tails, you'll lose. Today we want to talk about being spiritually brain dead. Spiritually brain dead. Now we've all been around people that are kind of brain dead just from the physical standpoint. They don't know much. And you can tell they don't know much by what they have to say. Whatever a person is in his soul comes out in his language. So if he just has a coarse, rough language with not many words, you can tell he doesn't know a whole lot. But Solomon wrote the Proverbs that we have been looking at in the last week or two. We studied wisdom last week to inspire those people that are spiritually brain-dead. Spiritually brain-dead, people that don't know much about the plan of God. This is the way that I was after I accepted Christ as my Savior. I was spiritually brain dead. I never had heard a word like regeneration or imputation or sanctification or any word like that. I didn't understand anything about the second advent of Christ. I didn't understand the filling of the Holy Spirit. I didn't understand any of the nomenclature related to the spiritual life. So I had to learn how God's plan operates. And it didn't come overnight. I had to take time to study and learn under my pastor how the word of God works and what God expects out of me and what I was supposed to do. And so when Solomon wrote the book of Proverbs under the inspiration of God the Holy Spirit, his apparent objective was to stress the importance of having the wisdom of God. And he made it available for you and for me through his written words, and we call it the scripture. So listen as I read to you from Proverbs 1, 1 through 7, Proverbs 1, 1 through 7, referring to the wisdom of God. It says, quote, the Proverbs of Solomon, the son of David, king of Israel, says, I write these for gaining wisdom and instruction, for understanding words of insight, for receiving instruction in prudent behavior, doing what is right and just and fair, for giving prudence to those who are simple, knowledge and discretion to the young, Let the wise listen and add to their learning and let the discerning get guidance for understanding proverbs and parables, the sayings and the riddles of the wise. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction. All right, I want to take a look at verse four particularly. One of the reasons that he wrote this Proverbs is for gaining prudence, for giving prudence to those who are simple, for giving prudence to those who are simple. The word prudence in the Hebrew, remember that the Old Testament was written in Hebrew and Aramaic and the New Testament primarily in the Koine Greek. And so as you begin to break these words down and study what we call the ice technique, I-C-E, ice. You know, like you want a Coca-Cola or a soda with ice. Ice, I'm gonna give you some big words here, but they're important to understand them. Eis is the word isagogics or isagogical. And C stands for categories. And E stands for exegesis. So when we study the scripture, we exegete the scripture line by line, word by word. We develop categories, and the isagogics is the word itself, how it was used, where it came from, what's its meaning. And so the isagogics of the word prudence is what I want to look at. Prudence is the Hebrew word ormah, and it means to give discretion or wisdom or subtlety, which is basically the state of being very subtle or having shrewdness or mental acumen. I never had heard that word before when I got saved, mental acumen. I didn't know what acumen was. But being subtle is the act of conveying something in a skillful, clever way versus a direct manner. And it's truly an art form, one that's not easily mastered, I promise you. So being subtle is a tactic that allows you and me to maneuver in the devil's world with without drawing a lot of attention to ourself. That's not what we're supposed to do. So let me give you some principles about being subtle because this is one of the characteristics of wisdom. An overbearing person, point one, is an obnoxious person. And that's a person that doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut. And I think we've done a study on this show before called 10 Times to Keep Your Mouth Shut. And if you've never heard that, if you'll write to me, we'll send it to you. Don't send money. We're not asking for money. But ten times you have to keep your mouth shut. And there's a lot of reasons to keep your mouth shut. One of them is judging your neighbors and sticking your nose in other people's business. But an overbearing person is an obnoxious person. They can't keep their mouth shut. They're always trying to straighten everybody else out. trying to run the show, it's the alpha male, you know, the big dog, the goat, and the crowd, the greatest of all times, et cetera, et cetera. Two, a second principle about being subtle. This is an art form of thinking and communicating clearly without being obnoxious, without being overbearing, without being persistent. And three, this is wisdom of knowing when to speak and knowing what to say. Some people just gonna pipe up and get in the middle of the conversation and really have nothing to offer. but they just try to act like they know what they're talking about and they don't. And you've seen that before. I've seen it before. You could be having an intellectual discussion with someone about a subject and the person that doesn't know anything about the subject wants to get in the middle of it and throw in some words. And they don't, I mean, they just, it's stupid. They don't know what they're even talking about. And so they shouldn't be in the middle of the conversation. I've been in that position. I, When I first became a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, I heard people talking about things that I didn't understand, and I wanted to be in the conversation. So I put my two cents worth in, and people looked at me like, where did that come from? You must be out of your mind. But I was trying to be noticed. I was trying to be recognized, and that's part of being obnoxious, wanting to be recognized. So this is the wisdom of knowing when to speak and what to say. Subtle. And that's prudence. Prudence is having accurate content. Content in all your directions or all your conversations. If you don't have accurate content, then everything you're doing is just wasted breath. That's all. So five, when you speak, you must have clear thinking and you must have accurate content. So where do we get the content? That's the question. Where do we get accurate content? That's the wisdom that Solomon is offering us in this book. Paul in Philippians 1.9 said it this way. And this I pray, that your love may abound still more in real knowledge and discernment. Acumen, discernment, acumen, knowledge. Anytime you say you love God, and people do say that, I love God, are you telling the truth? Because 1 John 5 says, if you love me, you'll obey me, and my mandates are not hard. Well, what's one of the first mandates? Grow in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Peter wrote. Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed. You love God and you're not growing spiritually? You say you love God and you're not obeying these mandates? You don't love God. You're emotionally attached to God. But to have sincere love for God is appreciation and respect and reverence for his character. Can you even tell me what is the essence of God, like sovereignty, righteousness, justice, love, immutability, omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence? Do you know what these things even mean? I did not. I had to learn them. I had to have some wisdom. That's part of being in the ministry. You got to know what you're talking about or else you need to keep your mouth shut. And so Paul says, I want your love, your appreciation, your commitment to your Lord to grow in more knowledge and more discernment. Now keep in mind that knowledge can be translated two ways in the New Testament. It can be translated in the Greek word gnosis, G-N-O-S-I-S. And it can be translated in the Greek word epinosis. The difference in these two are the difference between hearing and keeping. When you hear the word of God and understand it, you have gnosis. But when you apply it into your life, it becomes epinosis, or full knowledge. Epi is a preposition meaning full knowledge. And that's the objective of the Christian life. You go to church, you hear your pastor teach the Bible, and you want to apply it into your life. That's why Jesus said, happiness belongs to those people who hear my Father's word and keep it. And nobody's perfect, but you can't keep what you don't know. And you can't know unless you go and learn and listen. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. If you're not listening and learning, you're not gonna be growing. So when you speak, you have to have accurate content. And here in this verse in Philippians 1-9, we see the Apostle Paul stressing the very same thing Solomon did almost a thousand years earlier. So you just really have to ask yourself why the Bible keeps repeating the need for the believer to have discernment and understanding which is derived from wisdom in the soul. Why is this such a big issue? Why is it over and over and over again stressed? And the answer is simple. The spiritual life is lived in the soul. And you have a soul, I have a soul. We have mentality, we have volition, we have a conscience, and we have a self-consciousness. This is where we live our spiritual life. We live the spiritual life in the soul. We express what we believe in our body, in the action of our body and how we conduct ourselves. The soul's mentality, the soul has volition. Thus, Satan wants to take advantage of us. Satan's advantage in this world is to distort your thinking. That's how he gets an advantage. Since you have mentality and volition, he wants to distort your thinking into terms called human viewpoint or humanism. This is the exact opposite of divine viewpoint, which is God's plan for you and I to execute a successful spiritual life. I don't know if you're aware of this, but Satan is known to have his own ministers in pulpits across our country today who preach human viewpoint. 2 Corinthians 11, 13 through 15. Therefore, it is not surprising that if his servants, that's his ministers, also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, servants of God, whose ends shall be according to their deeds. So here we know for a fact that there are men and women in pulpits across America today that claim to be servants of God. and they're not you know satan is known as the greatest deceiver in all of history to be this good of deceiver he must be the greatest and best liar in history and jesus said he was in john 8 44 the father of all lies and the greatest lie you could ever hear is this humanism or human viewpoint thinking it's not the wisdom of god and so those people who stand in the pulpits and teach for satan are giving what's called doctrine of demons, 2 Timothy 4.1. Some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and the doctrine of demons. That's human viewpoint. That's humanism, progressivism, socialism. This is not taught in the Bible. This is not part of the Word of God. So hopefully you can see that if the enemy can control what you think and what you believe, then he can control what you do. That's the objective of the enemy. So we're exhorted over and over and over again throughout the New Testament to learn God's plan so we can execute and fulfill his desire for us so that we might in fact glorify him, not ourselves. Ephesians 3.20 says, all glory belongs to God, whose power is at work in us. Now, that power is dual power. It's the power of the Holy Spirit, which is problem-solving device number two, the filling of the Holy Spirit by means of problem-solving device number one, confession of known sin to God. And it's also the power of the Word of God inside of you. And that's problem solving device three, the faith rest drill, and problem solving device five, biblical orientation. So when you have the word of God in your soul, and you are filled with the Holy Spirit, then God's power is working in you. Thus, we have a demand from the New Testament that we become spiritually mature believers. 2 Peter 3.18. Grow, this is not a request, this is an order from Peter, this is a commandment. Grow in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Mandate it. If you're not growing, you're sinning. A Christian who doesn't progress in the Christian life is going to go backwards. The rate of forgetting will exceed the rate of learning, and if it's that way in your life, you are not growing. You must grow on a daily basis. You must be under the ministry of a good, qualified pastor who can teach you God's Word so that you can learn it and apply it into your life. And more than Sunday morning, Don't fall for the nod to God crowd, and that's all you're going to be. If that's all you do, just go in on Sunday and show up. Hello, God. Goodbye, God. See you next week, God. That's the nod to God crowd. and you wind up being a caricature of Christ, not the image of Christ. You got to learn to think like he thinks, and that's why the Bible says it. Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. Well, the Bible says, 2 Corinthians 12, that the Bible is the mind of Christ. It is the mind of Christ. The New Testament is the mind of Christ. And we have it. And we are to grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. So the importance of learning the wisdom of God is the educating of the simple or the spiritually brain-dead individual. How did that passage go when we started it a while ago? Let me back up in my notes and I'll read it to you one more time. for giving prudence to those who are simple, for giving prudence to those who are simple. The simple people are the spiritually brain-dead people. And these are called, in the next part of that passage, the youth who need knowledge and discretion. Normally, youth are spiritually brain-dead. They have their mind on everything else except the plan of God. I never thought about the plan of God when I was growing up, but I didn't grow up in a Christian home either, never went to church, never was told to go to church. And maybe you're different. Maybe you started learning the plan of God when you were a young person. That's fantastic if that's true. My prayer is that you are not spiritually brain dead. So principle, if you can destroy the thinking of the youth, then you can destroy the client nation. If you can destroy the thinking of the youth, then you can destroy the client nation. Keep in mind the United States of America has been a client nation to God for many years. And if there's one objective the enemy has, it's to destroy this nation so that we do not send out missionaries to all corners of the world, so that we do not proclaim the gospel all across the world, so that we are not a haven for the Jews, so that we don't operate under the divine institutions of marriage, family, freedom, nationalism. These are all important things to understand. So if you can destroy the thinking of the youth and capture their mindset and then you can destroy the future of any client nation. So point two, Satan's attack on the client nation of USA, you hear it chanted, USA, USA. Satan's attack on client nation USA is to capture the thoughts and the imagination of the youth who are ultimately, the future decision makers of this country. All right? And three, he does this through the abundance of social media, which is an appeal to the emotions and not a challenge to the intellect. Social media is an appeal to the emotions and not a challenge to the intellect. And if there's anything that's rampant on social media, it's humanism. Humanism, human viewpoint. Four, emotions are a responder, not an initiator. Emotions give us the ability to have appreciation, but not any discernment. That requires thinking, and humanism promotes no thinking. Humanism promotes emotionalism. Humanism promotes the now and what's happening right now, not any discernment or wisdom or insight or understanding. So five, accurate thought requires accurate information in the beginning. And that starts at home. And it starts with authority orientation at home. This is where the failure in America is today. There's very little authority orientation at home. At home, too many broken families. Satan has been successful through divorce, breaking up many families, many families. And if it happens, then the parents break up, and then the kid winds up living like I did with a mother who had to work. And so she farmed me out to different guardians throughout the week, and I would live with different people and come home on the weekends, Friday night and Saturday night, I'd come home. Didn't really know my mom that much because I was living with other people who did not teach me anything about God. Nothing about the word of God. So accurate thought requires accurate information beginning at the youth. Ephesians 6, 1 and 2 tells youth this right here. Obey and honor your parents. Obey and honor your parents. This is authority orientation. The first thing a parent has to do is teach the child, when I say no, I mean no. And obey is the Greek word hupotasso. Hupotasso means to be under the authority of. and the word honor is the greek word tamao tamao and it means to respect so the job of the young person at home is to obey the orders of the parents and to respect and honor their parents now that doesn't mean if your mom tells you to go to the grocery store and steal a loaf of bread you're supposed to do that you're not obligated to commit a crime if your parents encourage you to do that. But you are obligated to be under their authority, and sometimes their authority is not always fair. And so then the question arises, are you going to react to unfair treatment, or will you respond to unfair treatment? That's always the question in life. Even when you get a job, will you react or will you respond? Will you get mad and angry and let your emotions take over and blow it off and open your mouth and say something you shouldn't say? Or will you respond with forgiveness and love? See, that's the secret to the Christian life, being able to respond to adversity, not react to adversity. That's why Proverbs 3, one through two says, my son, and this is David speaking to Solomon, do not forget my teachings, but let your heart obey my instructions. He made sure that Solomon had a good background in the word of God. So point six, failure to teach authority orientation at home results in a soul out of control. making decisions on arrogant self-centered emotions self-centered emotions remember arrogance is identified by self-justification self-absorption self-deception and self-destruction so if you justify why you're right and your parents are wrong if you're totally deceived if you lie to them you lie to yourself and you get totally absorbed with what you're doing you'd wind up destroying yourself we all are about one or two decisions away from destroying our lives aren't we And there are a lot of kids walking around today that are one or two decisions away from destroying their life because they've had no parental instruction, no wisdom given to them so they would have discernment and understanding. They're easily manipulated by the enemy, aka the devil, and used by him to destroy a client nation. The next word in that passage we wanted to look at was the word simple. Give prudence to the simple. The Hebrew word for simple is pethah, pethah. And that means those who have no divine standards that result in foolish decisions are simply relying on their emotions not any content when making some sort of decision in life they are naive they are silly they're seductible they're easily persuaded and easily enticed the principle with no divine operating standards a young person is easily persuaded to step into sin he's very credulous one who has a readiness to believe the lie Two, the simple-minded person has no biblical frame of reference. Three, with no basis to determine right from wrong, the subject person is easily persuaded to step into an arena he should not go into, he should not enter. And so, four, early exposure to sinful, flawed behavior It leads to scar tissue or hardening of the heart. And this is seen in Ephesians 4, where Paul said, being darkened in their understanding, they are excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them. Since they developed a hardness in their heart, they become callous and betrayed themselves into sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity and greediness. Paul said you didn't learn this from Christ. Proverbs 1.4 continues, to the youth, knowledge, and discretion. The simple are the youth. They need knowledge and they need discretion. Youth is na'ar in the Hebrew. Na'ar, a boy, a youth, a lad, a servant, a damsel, usually under the age of 20. And they need knowledge, da'ath, the Hebrew word da'ath, which means perceptive ability built on wisdom and understanding. Without perceptive ability, the young person can not tell when they're being manipulated. And the tragedy of American youth today is many have no ability to recognize the lie of socialism or the lure of humanism. One of the reasons for this flaw is the parents did not teach and did not demonstrate the wisdom of God to them at a very early age. There's more to say about this. I'm running out of time, but I think I'll try to come back and follow this up and continue with this next week. I hope you've been listening. I hope you've been paying attention. I hope it's a challenge. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Step into the engaging world of conservative commentary with Mike Gallagher as he tackles the complexities of the Justice Department's moves and missteps. The episode opens with a spirited dismantling of political theatrics and the unending saga of double standards this time centered on figures like James Comey and Congresswoman McIver. With charges flying and footage scrutinized, the episode promises intense debates and unapologetic truths. Not to miss, Gallagher shifts gears to address the powerful role of media and public reactions to political accountability, blending humor and insights for a gripping narrative. Moreover, amidst this storm, the episode introduces tangible actions listeners can support, such as fair tax policies and community campaigns, providing a seamless blend of in-depth political analysis and calls to action.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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There's a lot of breaking news today. President Trump is on Capitol Hill urging Republicans to unify behind his big, beautiful bill. There's also some buzz right now about MAGA world being frustrated at the lack of action by the Justice Department. Notably, the failure to charge the disgraced former FBI director, James Comey, with any charges in threatening the life of President Trump. There he is on MSNBC taking a victory lap. I didn't do anything wrong. I just took a walk on the beach with my wife, and my wife said, Oh, look, honey, look at the shells. Spells out 86-47. Comey actually said with a straight face on MSNBC yesterday. I didn't think there was anything controversial about that. I thought it was a clever political statement, because there's nothing controversial about 86ing MSNBC. the president who survived at least three assassination attempts. Two here in the United States and one from Iran. But nothing controversial. No, no, no, no. I was just being clever. I was just being cute. I thought it would be good for my Insta. And so a lot of us are left wondering, is this Justice Department going to do anything? And almost perfect timing, Congresswoman LaMonica McIver, a Democrat from New Jersey, is going to face criminal charges for allegedly assaulting ICE agents at that New Jersey protest. Acting New Jersey U.S. Attorney Alina Haba announced yesterday, my office has charged Congresswoman McIver with violation of Title 18 United States Code Section 111A1 for assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement. So how do you see Trump's Justice Department? Is the disappointment you feel over Comey Pervasive? Or do you recognize... I mean, look. Imagine the audacity of the government charging a congresswoman with a crime. Breaking into an ICE facility, hitting federal officers, and expecting no consequences. Well, that's the Democrats. They don't want any accountability for anything. Last night on CNN... Scott Jennings mixed it up with the panel over the charges against this Democrat congresswoman, LaMonica McIver. Here's what Scott said about those criminal charges being filed.
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On Representative McIver, I'll skip to the second part, which is the most salient one. Everyone responsible for this illegitimate abuse of power is going to be held accountable for their actions. An attack on one of us is an attack on the American people. House Democrats will respond vigorously in the days to come at a time, place and manner of our choosing.
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What kind of a threat is that? What are they going to do? I don't know what that means. He keeps saying it's a red line. I don't even know what they can do here because of the video. The problem is they have a video of it. They have a video of it. And it doesn't look great. And if you if the argument is we're here to conduct legitimate oversight, is that what oversight looks like? Pushing and shoving and elbowing and causing a riot at a federal facility?
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Is that what you're saying is incorrect? And I think the video will play itself out. We see the entire video when a case comes and people look at the video, they'll see what happened.
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Going back and forth with Julie Roginski on that panel about, you know, responding to video showing the congresswoman pushing and shoving ICE officials.
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These kinds of charging cases are not made by Alina Haba or any United States attorney in the District of New Jersey. If you're indicting an elected official, especially a federal official, it is made in Maine justice, always. Pam Bondi is the Attorney General of the United States. It was ultimately her decision. Pam Bondi was the lobbyist for the GEO Group, which owns Delaney Hall, which has a $1.2 billion with a B contract at Delaney Hall. And of course, that's the ICE facility that they were at. probably does not want her former client being impeded from having members of Congress performing their oversight responsibilities. So this thing is rotten from start to finish. This attorney general should never have been involved in charging anybody for a former client that benefits a former client. and they should have allowed... How does it benefit the client? How does it benefit the client? Because if Mayor Baraka does not give them a certificate of occupancy, and if these members of Congress... But what does that have to do with a clear video of someone assaulting a police officer? Was that clear? Yeah, pretty clear.
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It's not a cheap fake, I can assure you of that.
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Let me tell you something. If you took off your MAGA gavel glasses and looked at it... It's not a cheap fake.
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It's a real video. It's not the whole video either.
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It's not the whole video either.
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How much video do you need to show a congresswoman assaulting law enforcement? It's not in context. What was she doing? Defending herself? Everybody saw the video. She's laying hands on federal law enforcement. And now she's going to find out what happens when you futz around. You futz around, you find out. Again, imagine breaking into an ICE facility... hitting a federal officer, and, oh, well, you can't charge me. It's oversight. I have to admit, I'm having a delightful time watching the Democrats squeal over a congresswoman being charged for assaulting ICE officers. I love, oh, what's his name, Hakeem Jeffries. Oh, you better not do it. You better not cross the red line. Scott Jennings is right. What are you going to do? You going to hold your breath? You're going to pout? You're going to go on a hunger strike? You futz around, you're going to find out. So I do have to point out that as frustrating as it is that this disgraced Comey was not charged, here's a U.S. Congresswoman, a sitting U.S. Congresswoman, who's facing years in prison. Look, I think the prison sentence is five to ten years for assaulting federal law enforcement. You can't do it. Maybe her mistake was wearing a bright red jacket so that she could be easily identified in throwing hands, laying hands on law enforcement. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in. It's Tuesday. We're back in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. We had another lunch yesterday with a group of listeners. Another one scheduled for today. I had such a delightful time with my buddy Mark Davis. More on that in just a moment. And thank you for helping us kick off our Prison Fellowship Angel Tree Camp campaign. A little slow today. I got to... See if you'll pick up the pace a little bit and send boys and girls to Christian summer camps. More on that in a moment. But first, to your calls. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in. Are you disappointed in Trump's Justice Department? Do you think they could be doing more? Are you glad that Alina Haba, at least, has charged Representative McIver? Let's get your take on all of it. Text or call. However you get here, get here. 800-655-MIKE. Let's show this great American company how much we have their back. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. Order pillows. These percale sheets are unbelievable. They're so smooth and silky and soft.
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While I was walking down the beach one bright and sunny day, I saw a great big wooden box a-floating in the bay. I pulled it in and opened it up and much to my surprise, ooh, I discovered a... Right before my eyes, oh, I discovered a... Right before my eyes, I picked it up and ran to town as happy as a king. This is for you, Mac. I took it to a guy I knew who'd buy most anything. Eric found it. But this is what he hollered at me as I walked in his shop. Oh, get out of here with that... Got a nice little beat to it.
SPEAKER 13 :
I've never heard it before. I've got a pretty good musical knowledge, but not that one. It's a little bit before my time, but, Matt, that goes out to you. And great job, Eric, tracking that. Where did you find that? What is that from? a guy named Phil Harris, the great Phil Harris. Remember Phil? Well, I'm a big Phil Harris fan. I am so lucky to get to talk to people like Mac in Minnesota. Every time I'm in a grumpy mood, I remind myself of how truly blessed I am. I had lunch yesterday with about eight listeners here in Dallas-Fort Worth, people that donated to our campaign to help children. And we're going to have another lunch today. This group of people yesterday was so fun and smart and kind and gracious. One of them was upset that I picked up the tab for the lunch. They donated $1,000 to have lunch with Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher here in Dallas. And I hopped on a plane Sunday to come here for not one but two lunches. Because we get creative when we're trying to bless children's lives. And these people were... Maybe it's the nature of the donor. I don't know. I think it's just the nature of this audience. You bless us every day. And I know that our whole team, Eric and Christian and Tracy and Teresa and Joey and Robert and Roger, we all are mindful... of how giving and loving and generous you are. I go to the upstate of South Carolina frequently, and I hang out with people that are just wonderful people. And this is our second day of the Angel Tree campaign. When I remind you that doing some good in the world is a way to thwart evil, because there is a lot of evil around us, Look, to threaten the president's life is an act of evil. To brag about it on MSNBC, that's really dark, dark, almost demonic stuff. But there is so much goodness in the world, whether it's a joking, wonderful call from Mac in Minnesota or having lunch with people that appreciate what we do. And I need your help, because look, I'm going to be blunt here. I'm worried because last hour, we didn't get a single child sponsored. Not one. And I think we can, I'll bet we can get to maybe 50 kids. If you look at the counter, if you go to Mike on, and let me just tell you what the message is. Let me tell you what the ministry is. Prison Fellowship ministers to the children of people who are in prison. Do you know how hard that child's life is right now? They've got a mom or dad or maybe a mom and dad behind bars. They might be living with their aunt or their uncle or their grandparents. Now, Angel Tree Camp season opens in a few days on May the 23rd. You're able to sponsor a child and send a child of an American prisoner to a summer camp where they're going to enjoy fresh air, fun, horseback riding, swimming, camping, canoeing, and gospel-centered activities. You see, they're going to learn the gospel. They're going to learn about God. And for just $200, you can change a child's life forever. Now look, I'm going to be very blunt here. Didn't get one donation in the last hour. If you look right now at our counter, we have a goal of 455 children. It's a pretty ambitious goal. Last year, you sent over 1,100 children to summer camps. So I'm just cautiously optimistic and hopeful and prayerful that you'll step up. Please go to MikeOnline.com. Click on the Make a Difference in the Lives of Prisoners Children banner at the top of the page. You'll see the counter, and in real time, whatever donation you make, if you make at least $200, you'll see another child get sponsored. Right now it says 29 out of 455 kids. Now we've got a long way to go, but I believe in you. And I truly pray that your heart will be touched today and you'll recognize that we can counter evil with doing some good. Let's bless these children's lives. And if you can't sponsor a child for the full $200, certainly we understand that, but maybe you could spare $25, $50, $100, $10, whatever you can spare. Please go to mikeonline.com, click on that banner at the top of the page, and bless these children. Let's send kids to summer camp where they can have a chance. You're going to give these kids a chance. And it just means so much to all of us, the way you step up. Please, please, please come through for these kids. MikeOnline.com. Click on the banner at the top of the page. And let's see how the counter looks today. I'll bet you we're going to have a good day. James Comey said, it never occurred to me that it was any kind of controversial thing. Scott Jennings had a good take last night about the Democrat congresswoman from New Jersey facing criminal charges for assaulting an ICE agent. Here's cut number 10. The mayor, as it turns out, was not criminally charged. Just this congresswoman, Lamerica, was. But listen to what Scott said on CNN about the mayor and the others who were assaulting federal law enforcement.
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Officials gave Congresswoman McIver and the other two lawmakers a one hour tour of the facility. So to then go from that to pressing charges seems hard to sustain. It's pretty reasonable for them to do that after what after the way it certainly does seem very. Can I ask the mayor a question?
SPEAKER 15 :
Were you invited? I think the U.S. attorney also when they dropped the charges. You were invited to come and tour the facility, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
She did put that in the... Are you going to do it? Of course.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good. Of course. Here's the point. You've got a tour for the members. He's been offered a tour. There's all sorts of accommodations being made here to people who didn't act right in the moment.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, listen, there's only one party here. Have you ever noticed, incidentally, that Scott never gets to complete an entire sentence on that show? You know, people get mad at me for interrupting... liberals and leftists who disagree with me, but he can't get one sentence out. They jump on him so quick, it's like they're ready to pounce at anything he says. Now, start the beginning of that clip again. Christian, I want you to hear Abby Phillips claim that they were just getting a tour, and then look at the video on Salem News Channel as she's talking, and you can see them assaulting the federal law enforcement officers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Watch this. Officials gave Congresswoman McIver and the other two lawmakers a one-hour tour of the facility. So to then go from that to pressing charges seems hard to sustain.
SPEAKER 13 :
And there's the video of her roughing up and pushing and shoving and using her elbow. She's got the red coat on. You can see her clear as a bell. You absolutely can see what she's doing. And Abby Phillips wants to pretend that, oh, she got arrested for getting a tour. That's not getting a tour. I've gotten a lot of tours in my life. You think I'm going to shove around and push and assault the tour guide? They're going to arrest me if I do. John's in Chicago. John, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Hello. Hey, Mike. How's it going? Good, John. How goes it?
SPEAKER 09 :
lucky bad that you know i just want to talk to you i know the uh... you know the big talk about the call me and you know his mean that he put up but i'm getting pushed back from the left telling me that jacket so because done there's been a bunch of other right wing people did it during you know biden's administration others of me going around that you know he did that too How do we, you know... It's wrong.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's totally wrong.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's wrong on both sides, but... I mean, the difference might be Jack Posobiec, last time I checked, isn't the former FBI agent. I mean, the former FBI director. You know, he's an opinionated guy who does a really good job on air and a great pundit. But look, I've said this all along. It's as wrong for anybody on our side to threaten the life of a Democrat as it is for them to threaten the life of Donald Trump. 100% agree. Got to be consistent. All right. Glad we agree. Thanks. Tom's in San Antonio. Hey, Tom.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning. Hi. I have a simple question. What would have happened if someone had threatened President Obama or President Biden while they were in office the way Comey threatened President Trump?
SPEAKER 13 :
They'd be arrested. They'd be arrested. There's no question. There's just no question. Look, there's no... The old adage applies here. If it wasn't for double standards, Democrats wouldn't have a standard at all. They have no standard. They've lied about everything continually. You know, yesterday I talked about all the distortions and the disinformation that came from Democrats. Jim Jordan last night cut number two on Fox News. Here's Congressman Jordan talking about the litany of untruths that Democrats have told... which led to perhaps the coup de grace, the lie about Joe Biden's physical and cognitive condition.
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The left has lied to us about everything. They lied to us about Benghazi. They lied to us about Russian collusion. They lied to us about parents at school board meetings. They lied to us about pro-life Catholics. They lied to us about COVID. They lied to us about the Hunter Biden laptop. We shouldn't be surprised that they were lying to us about the mental state of the commander in chief.
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And it's not just Republicans like Jim Jordan. I want you to hear Jon Stewart. And I've got this kind of weird love-hate relation. I like him. I just think he's smart and he's compassionate for veterans. Obviously, we don't agree on anything politically. It's a little bit like I feel about Bill Maher. Bill Maher and Jon Stewart are a couple of guys that I'd love to go out and chat with about the world. Believe it or not, there are plenty of Democrats or people who I disagree with politically who I like talking to and getting their perspective. They strike me, particularly Maher, they strike me as people who can be reasonable even if they come from a Democrat or progressive point of view. So I admit, I sort of enjoy Jon Stewart. And now he's back. I think he's doing one night a week. Here he is on Comedy Central. I think he just does Monday nights. He's got like the Rachel Maddow deal. Where can I get a deal like this that these guys keep having? One night a week, and they're making millions. But here was Jon Stewart last night mocking Jake Tapper and his stupid book, claiming that there's this big scandal about the cover-up with Joe Biden's cognitive decline when, of course, Jay Tapper was right in there attacking anybody who questioned Joe Biden's cognitive decline. Well, even Jon Stewart called him out.
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Nothing could slow down this coming feeding news frenzy about Biden's cognitive health other than maybe a report on his actual physical health, which was not good. But now we got ourselves a little problem. You've prepared an entire smorgasbord. Smorgasbord. Charcuterie board. You know what I'm talking about. I'm eating cheese. You know what I'm talking about. Entire smorgasbord based on what you thought would be a relatively uncomplicated story about mental decline. News has the countdown clock. They got the book graphics. They got the CNN Happy Meal tie-in toys. But now, doing the story seems almost disrespectful. Can CNN thread the needle? How do you pivot from excitedly promoting your anchor's book to somberly and respectfully promoting your anchor's book?
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Health was very much in the news even before the cancer diagnosis was announced on Sunday. That's because of a new book by CNN's Jake Tapper. This was already going to be a tough week, and this makes it much harder. And that is a reference to the fact that our colleague Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson have a book that's set to publish on Tuesday.
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This very tough news, this very challenging news, and at the same time the backdrop of our colleague Jake Tapper's book with Alex Thompson coming out this week.
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It's so hard. It's such a difficult time. So unfathomable in terms of the pain this family must be feeling. And yet, if you act now, and you use the code backslash, tap that book, you will... Obviously, this 20% off offer is not available for some reason in Tennessee. But the point is, forgetting about the fact how f***ing weird it is that the news is selling you a book about news they should have told you was news a year ago for free.
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Now, come on. See why I like the guy? Pretty funny stuff. More coming up.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network. Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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Well, the TV airwaves are filled with a rogues gallery of disgraced Democrats who are bragging about getting away with crap. Yesterday it was Comey. who went on MSNBC, sort of taunting President Trump after getting away with the death threat that he posted on Instagram with his 86-47 childish, despicable stunt. I'm just walking on the beach with my wife, not bothering anybody. And today, it's Congresswoman LaMonica McIver. Now, she's seen on camera. assaulting federal agents but she told CNN moments ago she would do it all over again if she had the opportunity.
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Would you have done anything differently?
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No, I would not have. Once again, we showed up there to do a job, Kate. We were there for an oversight visit. We have done this before. You know, me, Congresswoman Bonnie Watson Coleman and Congressman Bob Menendez was just at a facility just a couple of weeks ago, not too far from this location where we had an oversight visit. And we were a little bit delayed, but not confronted or was in the middle of a chaos to do so. I think, number one, we have an obligation to do so. We have to show up and do our jobs. And at the end of the day, the reason why we were there is because we wanted to make sure this facility was up to par, that it was clean, that it was safe, and that the detainees there were safe. were, you know, given due process, that they were able to use the phone, that they were able to speak to their legal representation, which we found out was not happening. But that was our reason. So despite, you know, what Republicans are saying, like, you know, about us, you know, trying to break people out of jail, that's untrue. We were not there to do that. We were there to conduct an oversight visit, which after all of this chaos, Kate, they gave us a tour. You know, we were all of this. We broke in. We assaulted people. All of these things that you know, HABA is saying and Republicans are saying. Congresswoman, you are now facing a federal charge, though.
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Are you afraid of what's going to transpire now?
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, it's super unfortunate, Kate, that we have come to this point in America that this is what we see happening to leaders who are trying to do their jobs. Rather, it's the mayor of the largest city. Rather, it's a judge. We've seen this administration come after and attack leaders for doing their jobs. It's political intimidation, and I will not be intimidated. I expect to continue to do my job.
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Now, I'm going to give you a little giveaway about TV, okay? Because I've been a broadcaster for a long time. Spent a lot of years in front of a microphone and a camera. Spent about a decade as a Fox News contributor. Made a decision to leave Fox in 2016 because it just didn't excite me anymore. I mean, to be honest with you, there's some people that would run over their own mother to have the opportunity to get three minutes with Jesse Waters on TV. And I... been there, done that, and it just doesn't do it for me. I love doing this show every day, and I want to focus all of my efforts on the hours that I get to spend in the Salem environment. But look, there's plenty of my friends and colleagues who do a lot of TV, and I love that for them, and I know they're excited about it, and I want them to be excited, and I want them to be prosperous and successful. But I know TV. I know how it works. I drive the TV team here crazy because I've got a pretty good working knowledge of what TV is supposed to look like. And we have a term, we have an aspect of television called B-roll. B-roll is when Christian will roll video that compliments what I might be talking about. So if I'm talking about the disgraced former FBI agent James Comey, he'll put up B-roll of James Comey. Oh, like he's doing right now. Nicely done. Nicely done, young man. I mean, he's quick. He's really quick. In fact, it's kind of a crazy thing that he has to learn how to read my mind a little bit and anticipate when I'm going to do... Let's see, I'll give you another test. I could start going from James Comey to talking about... President Donald J. Trump. President Trump went to Capitol Hill today. Look at that! There's President Trump in the Oval Office. See how quick he is? It's called B-roll. And good video producers like Christian Russell know how to do it. Salem News Channel does a great job across the platform of running B-roll. In that minute and 45 second clip that I just played for you with Congressman LaMonica McIver, CNN didn't dare do the obvious move, and that would be to play the B-roll of her assaulting the federal officers. There she is throwing elbows and putting hands on ICE agents with her big red jacket on. She's as clear as you can see. That video B-roll, while she's saying she didn't do anything wrong, would, of course, contradicted her. Of course CNN didn't run the obvious B-roll that we're running right now on Salem News Channel. Because it would make her look like a bald-faced liar. Oh, we got a tour. We're just conducting oversight. Oh, really? Oversight means you throw down with an ICE agent? Oversight means you shove an elbow and assault a federal officer? Because tell you what, lady. If any of us would have done that, we would have been slapped in handcuffs right then and there. So it's a good thing that she's facing criminal charges. The acting New Jersey U.S. Attorney, Alina Haba, announced, My office has charged Congressman LaMonica McIver with violation of Title 18 United States Code, Section 111A1, for assaulting, impeding, and interfering with law enforcement. And the reason CNN didn't dare play one second of B-roll during that conversation with LaMonica McIver is because it would have shown that she did what she's charged with doing. The videotape doesn't lie. The video is unblinking. The video shows her shoving and elbowing and assaulting a federal law enforcement officer. I'm glad that the government is following through. They should be doing more of this. They should have charged James Comey as well. Now James Comey signals to all the creeps and the crazies and the kooks out there that you can threaten Donald Trump as much as you want. But you better be careful. Because if you do, just because James Comey got away with it doesn't necessarily mean you will. Be forewarned. Welcome in. We're Tuesday in the Relief Factor studios, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. I want to put your voice front and center. Give me your reaction to this whole story and the criminal charges that Democrat Representative LaMonica McIver, Rocky Balboa, faces. She's the Rocky of the U.S. Congress, decides to take on an armed federal law enforcement officer at the ICE facility in New Jersey. But, you know, when you futz around, you find out. And right now, Congressman LaMonica McGyver is in the found-out portion of futzing around. 800-655-MIKE. Call, text, join us. And let me give you an opportunity to remember how you can let your voice be heard, get off the sidelines, and partner with Job Creators Network. Last November, over 77 million of us made President Trump our 47th president. There's no issue that was more crucial than the economy. 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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis. Morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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Check out headlines today. I love this. Newsmax. Four new polls show Trump with strong approval ratings. How about Axios? Biden's cancer diagnosis draws sympathy and suspicion. Even the left, the Democrats are now piling on. How about another Axios headline, MAGA faithful, and this is the one I want to start with you on. The MAGA faithful are growing frustrated with Trump's Justice Department. And Mark, well, people are saying, come on, Pam Bondi, why aren't you arresting James Comey? Come on, guys. Why don't you stop? I mean, Pam Bondi is spending a lot of time on Fox News, but not a lot of time actually prosecuting.
SPEAKER 12 :
Not a lot of time... He got a tense visit from the Secret Service and, in fact, was escorted to a Secret Service office for a sit-down. What exactly did people... want.
SPEAKER 13 :
Once you charge him with threatening the President of the United States, there's a statute that says you can't do that. And you know, maybe the and I'm going to go on a limb here a little bit. Maybe the conventional wisdom is it would have been tough to get a conviction in a court of law. At least charge him. At least throw... There's value to that. There's optics value to that. Right. Exactly. The optics value. At least say, look, they're doing it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Look, Alina Habba's doing it now with... Congresswoman LaMonica McIver of New Jersey assaulted ICE officers and she flat out got charged.
SPEAKER 13 :
And the Democrats, of course, are melting down faster than a bucket of water on the Wicked Witch. They're saying, how dare you chill our... It was part of her oversight. Oh, yeah? Your oversight is to lay hands on an ICE agent? That's part of your oversight?
SPEAKER 12 :
Nice try, Congresswoman. And did you see the posturing? I think it was three, four days... It was end of last week. I had back-to-back audio. There was Hakeem Jeffries with that wonderful hand-chopping thing he does. I just want to tell you that if they do anything, that if they cross a line, that's a line that you do not cross. Well, what are you going to do? I'm not going to tell you, but that's a line that you do not cross. Do not cross. And then AOC, if you lay one finger on our people, we're going to have a problem. Oh, really, young lady? And what exactly were that problems?
SPEAKER 13 :
They're just about threats and they're about flailing about because you can't put hands... Look, no one is above the law. And if you're a congressman... Now, she made a decision not to charge the mayor. And I saw an analysis last night. I think it was over on... I think it was at One American News, they were saying that the video doesn't show conclusively him putting hands, but she does. She's pushing. She's shoving. You don't shove a cop if you're a member of Congress. Who do they think they are? They just think they can get away with anything, and I'm fed up with it. And again, back to Pam Bondi. Do you think Trump's Justice Department has been sufficient enough? Here's Kash Patel and Bongino. Oh, Epstein did kill himself. Which infuriated Epstein's brother. Epstein's brother said, no, he didn't. He was killed. Who are they to say that? I mean, it's like, here's what the MAGA masses are growing. This is Tal Axelrod over at Axios. The MAGA masses are growing disillusioned with Justice Department officials who are failing to deliver damning information on a laundry list of hot-button issues.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's one problem with the headline. One problem with the headline. Masses. What you and I have described and what you brought up is absolutely resonating with. And it's not a tiny sliver. It's an appreciable number of people. But I would say the vast number of people who voted for Trump don't pay a lot of attention. And when I say don't pay a lot, they want an active, they want Pam Bondi to be great. They want justice done for justice reasons and not DEI and not preferential treatment, not political witch hunts, et cetera, et cetera. That has been cleansed and that's good. about this is somewhat limited at the moment. It's a kind of a political junkie kind of thing. So the notion that the MAGA masses are frosted by this is an overstatement.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, to your point, the reality check at the end of the article says not everybody is ready to flip the table. While some people are still building up their MAGA bona fides, like Pam Bondi, others like Patel and Bongino have longstanding credibility with Trump fans. And the underlying point remains, the National Pulse's Rahim Kassam texted Axios, the underlying point remains, Cash and Dan are badasses at the height of their efficacy. They deserve more time. And more trust.
SPEAKER 12 :
And they do deserve our trust, which is why when you get to the whole stupid Epstein story, where it's impossible to even mention it without everything going through the instant meat grinder of everybody's immediate biases, was he just a... A horrific creature, of course. Is there probably something we don't know and that maybe we'll never know of some famous or infamous people who are on the plane? There is no client list. That's a fraud. But is there something in there that if only we knew that it would be juicy? Probably. So that has everybody just amped up, cranked up to 11. So he dies in prison. Wow, does that look suspicious? Do we know like we know our own names that he was killed, that somebody had him killed? No, we do not. Is it a suspicion worthy of some foundation? Sure. But I do trust Kash Patel and I do trust Dan Bongino. And if they are the ones who have the closest access to the evidence and they say, you know, looks like a suicide, I'm prepared to defer to them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Meanwhile, I had dinner last night with a buddy of mine who got into a mess with TSA a few months ago. I forget the airport he was in. I think it was a smaller airport. His elderly mother was getting frisked by TSA because she had metal. And he said, would you stop putting your hands on my mother? And then they got lippy with him. He wound up and then American Airlines got involved. It was a mess. And I got to thinking about what I went through on my way here. I always try to wear a flag pin that has the Israeli flag and the American flag. Intertwined. I'm wearing it right now as we speak, if you're watching on Salem News Channel. I was at the gate in Tampa, and a 40, 50-something-year-old woman with a streak of purple in her hair, which could have been the giveaway, walks up to me, and she purposely comes near me. She, like, veers towards me, and as she gets almost shoulder-to-shoulder with me, she says, free Palestine, M-F-er. And she didn't say M-F-er. And I thought, you know something? Now, I know I'm not an intimidating, imposing-looking fellow. I know I'm not going to scare anybody. But how does she know I'm not going to rear off and just pop her right in the snout? What the heck gives her the right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Honestly, because she probably knows that that's what her side does. That the violence, the short fuses, the ridiculousness, the juvenile behavior, that's them. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
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In this episode, Dana Lash discusses the current state of gun rights in the United States with the iconic Uncle Ted Nugent. From unconstitutional bureaucratic infringements to the 1968 Gun Control Act, listen as Ted shares his insights into a system battling its people over their rights. Dana also covers two incredible Florida man stories, exploring their absurdity in everyday life. Don't miss out on analysis that ties everything back to common sense, truth, and protecting American freedoms.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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This guy's mugshot, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have remorse. So this Florida man was arrested for driving drunk 118 miles per hour at 2.30 in the morning. with kids in the car just asleep in the back seat uh the guy's uh name juan espinoza he was signaled to pull over they immediately they look at his body he's like yeah i'm not i i know remorse there that's a drunk grin by the way that is a drunk grin they suspected that he was drunk and so they requested that he perform some sobriety test and give a breath sample and he refused. So they took him to a detention center and he totally tested. Yeah, he was inebriated. So he has DUI and child neglect without significant bodily harm. But there was a one-year-old and an eight-year-old asleep in the back seat. And he was going 118 miles per hour at 2.30 in the morning. They said recklessly, just like driving all over everywhere. Oh my, by the grace of God, this man did not hit anybody. Wow. That's just... A Florida man broke a Del Taco window after he was denied tacos at closing time. I, too, get angry when I'm denied tacos. Florida man, he was arrested, according to Charlotte County and the sheriff's office there. Anthony Izzo pulled into the drive-thru in Port Charlotte, about 30 miles away from Fort Myers. They said, they're closed. Our kitchen shut down. They put away the meat. The meat is put up. And he did not like that. They heard loud popping noises moments later. Somebody called 911 and it looked like he used a pipe wrench and hit the window four times, cracked it and then drove away. They found him at his home, police said, where he was arrested for criminal mischief. He had charged two or he cost two thousand dollars worth of damage to that drive through window. It's not their fault. They put away the meat. You know, people close. They got signs. You know, you should have checked your Google Maps before you drove up to the Del Taco. They're not, you know, and they're open late anyway. Like, good night. What time did you go there? We'll be right back. He gave me the best advice when I first started using a bow. He gave me the best advice. Uncle Ted Nugent, who joins us now via, I mean, that's his bunker. Look at his bunker. Good night. He's got his dog on his cup. He's got his guitars. I see a big old giant. I mean, I love the safe in the background. Good to see you, Uncle Ted. God bless you, my friend.
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Dana Lash, Dana Lash, Dana Lash. There are man caves, and then there's the Ted Nugent man cave, cuckoo's nest, arsenal of democracy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. What he is in, that bunker that he is in right now, is every man's dream. Every man's dream. He just froze on us. We're going to get him back. Of course he froze on us right at the go part. We're going to get him back and he's going to unleash because there's a few things that are happening. And we're that we've got the Hearing Protection Act. We also have this potential re maybe recension of the Gun Control Act. All right. We got Uncle Ted back right now. So I know. Let me ask you this, because, you know, you're lifelong outdoorsman, you know, hunting, you know, better than pretty much almost anybody. You also know. like wildlife management. So it's not just like hunting and shooting, but you actually get like the land management, the hunting and all of that. And one of the cool things that I'm fingers crossed, I was hearing from lawmakers that they're still arguing this that's in this bill that they're battling over the Hearing Protection Act with suppressors. And I just want to ask you that about that real quick, because you're considered like if you go overseas to hunt for My friends that go overseas to bird hunt, they're like, if you don't shoot suppressed, you're kind of looked at like the rudest person that's ever lived. But over here, they act like, oh, my gosh, it's a magical thing that makes the gun totally. It doesn't work like that. What are your thoughts on this whole thing?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don't have any thoughts. I have some conclusions, because I actually think. I'm a critical thinker, which is why you love me and I love you, because we are truth, logic, and common sense, critical thinking adherents, genuflecting at God's miraculous creation that is truth, logic, and common sense. And the truth, logic, and common sense, Dana, is why in God's name would I need another man's authorization or federal paperwork to make my gun quieter and safer? This is insanity. By law, I have to have a muffler on my tractor, but I've got to get a federal piece of paper to make my gun a little quieter and safer. It's not a silencer, it's a suppressor. It just reduces the decibels slightly under what my guitar has been for the last 72 years. The bottom line is, you're absolutely correct. When I hunt over in Africa and over in Europe, even over in England and Scotland, which are basically still king's tyrant countries, you can get a suppressor at the hardware store. Now you've got to go through all kinds of insanity to get a permission to actually keep and bear arms. We have that here. So Ultimately, what you represent every time you open that beautiful little mouth of yours is the truth, logic, and common sense that I don't need paperwork. There's not a man that can go, by the way, Ted, we're going to give you constitutional carry. I was born with constitutional carry. Dana, you know I know anybody that thinks Anybody that actually thinks knows that all gun control laws, all of them, all of the regulations are infringements. And there's a document that says shall not be infringed. In fact, this morning I signed another thousand of these. Another thousand of these hats that say shall not be infringed. Would people please wake up and tell your elected employees to quit infringing? Stop the engineered recidivism. Keep rapists and carjackers and murderers and stabbers and train pushers. Keep them in cages and let we the people keep and bear arms without any infringements. Boy, that's radical.
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I love it. I love the phrase elected employees. That is the best. I'm going to like committed that to memory. We're talking with Uncle Ted Nugent, just like the best out there. The president talked about this. First off, when he came out, he was saying that he wanted to have national reciprocity. There wasn't another president that said it. And I hope he strong arms some of these some of these losers that are in D.C. into making this happen. But he also touched upon the Gun Control Act and maybe possibly rescinding the Gun Control Act in 1968, which would be. I mean, I think you need to get rid of all of it. I agree with you. What I know this is this is something that you've talked quite a bit about. Do you think that do you think that Congress is actually going to let this happen? I feel like they're at odds with everything going on in the White House right now.
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Well, first of all, you've identified the most important battle cry for true, we the people, freedom in America, and that is the great Commander-in-Chief Donald Trump. What a relief this is. I work every day, every day, Dana, with heroes of the military, all the military branches, and for many years they've been heartbroken and depressed because the Commander-in-Chief Joe Biden was the actual enemy of America, the enemy of the Constitution. The deep state was the enemy. These young men and women of the U.S. military would die for their sacred constitutional oath while the deep staters were violating the very oath that these heroes died for. The self-evident truth is that the 68 Gun Control Act, signed after the Kennedy assassinations and Dr. Martin Luther King, it not only didn't reduce violent crime or assassinations since the Gun Control Act of 1968 because of engineered recidivism. We're living in a failed court system of engineered recidivism. They knowingly let out repeat offenders to repeat offenders. Then they convict them, and then they let them out again, and they repeat offend. It's planet of the cuckoo's nest out there. So the 68 gun control was signed by Lyndon Baines Johnson. Who would trust... anything that that guy signed it is counterproductive just like everything the government does it's counterproductive to their claim goals because they're liars and i as a free man you as a free woman your family god bless chris and your kids god bless my family my kids my grandkids my band my crew We get to keep and bear arms, and I would like to get rid of the infringement. So here's the bottom line. Call your elected employees. Call your senator and congressman. Tell your chief of police that you stand with Kyle Rittenhouse for clear and present self-defense. Call your state trooper commander. Call your sheriff. Call your senator, your congressman, hammer your governor every day, leave your name and number, the time that you called, and say quit with the infringements. Every other state except Texas, I think there's a couple, South Dakota and Oklahoma have some pretty good reduced infringements. But it's our fault, Dana, for not raising enough hell. I raise more hell than anybody. That's why they call me a radical, and I take it as a badge of honor.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you raise about as much hell as a midsize city. I mean, that's true. Like you're like your own one man army talking with our very dear friend, Uncle Ted Nugent, about all of this. I feel like we are closer with a lot of this stuff federally with a lot like pulling back a lot of these gun laws than we ever have been. And I'm so terrified that if we don't act now, then we're going to miss an opportunity because I'm worried about what Democrats have planned in 28. And I think you are, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, once again, I can give you so many heartbreaking examples. I got a farmer buddy who's never even gotten a speeding ticket, but he's now a convicted felon by the EPA, another counterproductive, corrupt criminal bureaucracy, because he had a faulty muffler on a tractor on his farm. He's now a convicted felon. felon, and he can't exercise his God-given rights. I have so many people that made a mistake way back when they were teenagers. Now they have great businesses. They employ hundreds of people, but they're a convicted felon for having a couple of joints, which was a dumb mistake. But my God, Violent criminals in Chicago are caught on film shooting each other every day with illegal guns and fully automatic federal crime seers on their pistols, and they drop the gun charges for the gangbangers, but the guy with the bad muffler can't use a .30-30 to go deer hunting. I mean, these are unbelievable examples. And, Dana, I could keep you here for 100 days. I have a Real America Voice Spirit Campfire and our Spirit of the Wild TV show on the Pursuit Network. I try to expose these atrocities, and I think people woke up. We saw the evidence November 5th. 2024. But please, people, engage. Raise hell. Go to HunterNation.org. HunterNation.org connects with conservationists, constitutionalists, conservatives, and we find out those that don't vote, and we inspire them to vote because that's what's making the difference. We proved it in November, didn't we? Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
I got to ask you about that. I want to finish with this topic. Because the news that's been out, so we had the Her audio with Biden's closed-door testimony. That came out, and that was real bad. But then that immediately got shoved to the side because this news about his cancer diagnosis. And, you know, it's stage four. It's real bad, super aggressive. And, look, I think you can have compassion all the live long day. But also, that doesn't mean you sacrifice accountability and questions. And Americans have every right to go, wait, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. We saw clearly there was a cognitive struggle. Now we have this. Everybody I had Dr. Duron yesterday who was saying, no, no, no. The question is whether or not he how how much he was dealing with this his when he ran like before he even ran. This is such a crazy issue. Who do you think was in charge in the White House? Because honestly, you cannot persuade me that he was at any point during these last four years. I don't believe it.
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until we find out who was running the United States government during Joe Biden's four years, we're not real America. Not only was he dangerously mentally ill, but more mentally ill than Joe Biden and his inner circle. I mean, just outrageous. More mentally ill than Joe Biden and his inner circle were the people that covered up for him. Can you imagine being an official, an elected employee in the United States of America and waking up every day to intentionally bamboozle, lie and deceive the American public that was at its peak? violation during the Joe Biden four years. Again, I pray for mentally ill people. Even the president, now he's diagnosed with cancer. We're praying for Joe Biden, but that does not mitigate or reduce the disrespect that he earned for being such a dishonest, corrupt, tax-torching, He's a traitor. If you open up the borders, that's treason. If you get money from our enemies in China, if that's not treason, I'm Caitlyn Jenner's boy toy. This is insanity beyond measure. These guys are so guilty of treason. Is that the ultimate analysis or what?
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I love it. That one's going to get cut for sure and be online. That one's good. No, I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you on that. And I just, you know, the fact that we have the press now, like at USA Today was like, oh, was he ever in good health? They actually... Uncle Ted, they actually ask that now. USA Today is now all the media now are asking, oh, was was he ever in good health? Wow. It looks like there were some things that were bad. We were called conspiracy theorists for seeing this earlier. Last word from you on this.
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The dishonesty level is finally being reversed. I call it the toxic, demonic toilet flush of Uncle Sam in the deep state. Thank God for Donald Trump. But more importantly, it was we the people, especially the fence-sitters – and by the way, if you're sitting on the fence and you're a moderate, you don't stand for anything. And if you don't stand for anything, you're actually facilitating the evil side. Noncompliance and apathy isn't a neutral. It's supporting the evil side. And finally, enough Americans that thought they were not participating in the sacred experiment of self-government. They said, my God, men destroying women's sports that is facilitated by the party that claims they're all about women's rights. Again, there's thousands of examples. And I'm going to leave saying this, Dana, how much we love you. Because you have... the most sexy middle finger um when you set it on fire with your truth logic and common sense everywhere i go people know that we're friends they say tell dana thank you tell dana we love her you know i i have a tyrannosaurus rex screwed him of freedom award and i don't want to give it to you because you're just too beautiful but it means it means you stand up For the self-evident truth that guides the greatest quality of life in the history of the world, the only experiment in self-government in the history of the world, Dana Lash, we love you. We pray for you because you're brave beyond words. And every time you speak, you represent the best families in the asset column of the American dream. God bless you, woman. Shemaine and I love you.
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Thank you so much, Uncle Ted. And we love you and Shemaine and all your family as well. And congratulations, because I know you guys just celebrated a super happy event. And I wanted to say congratulations. And I'm so happy for you all. I love that for your family. But you've really blasted the way. You have to know that. You know how many people? whether it was Gen X or millennials or Gen Z that watched you and really took a lot of cues from you. So you planted a lot of seeds in a lot of people's minds. And I think that you really made that possible. So thank you because you're an absolute American patriot. Uncle Ted Nugent, really our favorite person in all of rock and roll. God bless you, my friend. Please tell your beautiful bride hello. We will talk with you again soon. God bless. Appreciate your time.
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We're going to have some backstraps over a campfire sometime, Dana. Godspeed, baby.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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This is kind of sad. If you guys need some chickens, a shipment of thousands of chicks were found abandoned in a USPS truck. There you go. Now overwhelming an animal shelter in Delaware. They're trying to rehome thousands of chicks that survived being left in a postal service truck for three days. They had no food or water. Thousands died. Thousands of them died before they were even discovered. They're trying to figure out how 12,000 chicks were abandoned in this Delaware mail distribution. It's the United States Postal Service. That's why. You want to know why? Because it's the USPS. God love your drivers, but that damn agency runs like A-double snakes. Do you know if I send a letter, unless I send it certified overnight, if I send a letter from Texas, it takes over a month. to get to my hometown in St. Louis. That is not even an exaggeration. Happy to show you the stamp. Hands to sky. More packages are lost through USPS. I do not send anything through it because I can't guarantee it, even if I buy insurance for it. That's how bad it is. So I am completely not surprised that you had thousands of these chicks that were left to die in this damn distribution center. They said, oh, they were aware of a process breakdown. They're probably going to need more taxpayer dollars, I'm sure. Remember, they kept saying they needed more tax money. Over bloated government entity that can't run right and you want more money. And then how that works in your job. If you perform badly, you get a raise. Hell no. So they said that Freedom Ranger Hatchery in Pennsylvania, they raised the chicks for their weekly distribution of clients around the country. And they said the hatchery can't take the chicks back because of biosecurity concerns. So they're trying to find... They're at the First State Animal Center, SPCA. They're trying to find people to pick them up. But that's just cruel. I hope they find the people responsible and drag them. Drag. Also, let's see here. Fears of a new super cartel as Mexico's most violent gangs make a terrifying alliance. This was only a matter of time. You knew this was going to happen. They have the Jalisco, the Sinaloa cartels that are there. I guess it's like cartel unionizing in a way. But they said that in the three others. are forming an alliance that could prove deadly. They're having a major problem. I mean, let's not forget that mayoral candidate that was shot and killed on a live stream just a couple of weeks ago. The Trump administration reached a $5 million settlement with Ashley Babbitt's family per Newsweek. They agreed to pay the family of Babbitt to settle the lawsuit brought by her family. The AP said that they had talked to DOJ. to get a comment but uh you guys remember the story of ashley babbitt well now they've settled for that i mean that's insane it was the first cop shooting that the left loved oh they celebrated that guy that guy was a moron too he had no idea what his what was behind his target which is the first rule of firearms stick with us a lot more in store with all family pharmacy they have you covered no matter what it is that you need maybe it's your everyday medications maybe it's the stuff that the government tried to keep from you the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine Maybe you want to just make sure that you have some emergency kits, some antibiotics in case that you may need them in a pinch. And this is where All Family Pharmacy comes in. If you haven't gone to their website and looked at everything that they have, they have hundreds of medications. It's simple, fast, and affordable. No insurance, no problem. They have straightforward pricing, online ordering, shipping in just two to four days. You can get it overnight in a pinch. Your health is always within reach. And they make it super easy. There are no gatekeepers. You can use code Dana10 to get 10% off of your entire order as well. And everything is made in the USA. All inputs, everything. So you got high standards of quality and safety. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off. Use promo code Dana. Protect yourself and your family today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10.
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for a minute talk about a couple of other things james comey was on msnbc after we were on air yesterday and uh he was trying to explain that he just he just didn't realize that you know he was walking on the beach with his wife and his story is they just happened to look down and see it do you believe that kane uh no that they i'm sorry did i say no i meant hell no He he just they acted like that. They just happened to see it. And he just didn't know. Audio soundbite. Which one should I do? Nineteen or twenty first? I think which is least believable. Let's do let's do 19 that. Listen, this is him on MSNBC right after we finished our show yesterday. You are back in the middle of a political firestorm.
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Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, I'm sorry, Juan. You're going to hate me right now. Juan was already ready. Okay, first off. It wasn't because he was walking on the beach with his wife. How dare you, James Comey? You're not allowed to walk on the beach with your wife. That is disallowed. Thou shalt not. It wasn't because of that. It was because he formed shells in the 86-47 and then put it on Instagram like a thirsty little influencer. That's why. Get it right. Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. Juan's going to hate me so bad because he has these awesome transitions and I'm going to let it play this time. Okay, promise. You are back in the middle of a political firestorm.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife. So I don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred to me that it was any kind of controversial thing, but that's the time we live in.
SPEAKER 10 :
So controversial. I mean, I never knew that this is how we ended up here. I never knew it. That was only 13 seconds long and I couldn't even get through it. How sad is that? I mean, I just can't believe I was walking on the beach with my wife. And I said, we're here. So audio somebody 20. They asked him a little bit more about it. Listen to what he says here.
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But just again and again and again, I really thought that I was done. I was in another life. I was a grandfather and an author wearing sweaters and jeans. And then I went for a walk on the beach and posted a silly picture of shells that I thought was a clever way to express a political viewpoint. And actually, I still think it is. I don't see it the way some people are still saying it is. But again, I don't want any part of any violence. I've never been associated with violence. And so that's why I took it down.
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Hmm. Hmm. By the way, you know, the the idea, the the term because I love how people now are getting into the etymology of the word 86 or the phrase. And people are like, I just it doesn't mean to kill anyone. Actually, it means to get rid of. Yes, it does. It means to get rid of 80 miles out and six feet under. That's an actual phrase. That's an actual it's actually it's a phrase from the Hoffa days. Jimmy Hoffa. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, he was 86 under the end zone, a giant stadium. That's yeah. So anyone. That's why I'm like for for James Comey to not understand that phrase. You're an you're an idiot. That is what I almost said something else. But I didn't.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's playing. He's he's pretending to be an idiot.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
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He knows what he's doing.
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I mean, I worked in, hey, guess what? I worked in the restaurant industry. I was a server for years when I was in college. And 86 means, to us, is killed off the menu. But I love these people who are like, let's study the phrase. Let's look at the etymology of the slang phrase. 86. And all of these people who were guerrilla experts under Harambe and rocket experts with Elon Musk. And yeah. Also like film experts with the video of somebody trying to kill POTUS, all that. And now they're like, let's study the etymology of 86. No, it meant 80 miles out and six feet under. You had to dig your grave 80 miles out from Harambe. town or wherever everybody's living and six feet under that's where 86 comes from that's that phrase and uh it was actually used widely i went back and i was because i'm like i know that that's been used i mean hell they talked about in the irishman when it was a film about the guy who was supposedly 86 toffa and that's a common phrase It's used in a number of different industries. You cannot tell me that somebody is the top cop in the land and doesn't know what that phrase means. I don't buy that. And if you're that dumb, why are you in that position? Oh my gosh. But what's more, and I know I said this yesterday, not all dudes are like this. I think it's a rare thing. But every now and then you come across a dude who has like angry ex-girlfriend vibes. You know what I mean? Like bunny boiler vibes. How old is he? How old is James Comey? I said yesterday on Waters that I think he's old enough to be my dad. He might be. Oh, totally. Yeah, he could be. So he's that old. And you know that he arranged those shells like that himself. And he's just trying to align about it to give himself plausible deniability, which I think is I mean, it's it's bad to share that sentiment. But how weird is it that a 64 year old dude is doing that? I can confidently say I know of no man who. below the age of 64 or at or over that age, that would do something like that because that is so cringe. They would die immediately. It's instant death. It's that cringe. That's weird, right? Isn't that like obsessive? That is obsessive. Think about it. This is like his second book. He's got a new book coming out. It's his second book. That's obsessive. Remember when he was in the White House and they were all meeting with POTUS and he was hiding behind a curtain? Do you remember that? Kane, do you remember that? It was on video. He was, oh, no, no, no, no. He was like hiding behind a curtain. And he talked about it later that he was, he felt very weird. He didn't really want to, he tried to blend in with the White House curtains. And he's this, he was the tallest guy in the room. Tallest guy in a room. And he was trying to like push himself all the way back into the curtains. And it was so obvious that, It was so obvious. There were all of these like stills of the video. And when you look at it, he literally is standing all the way back, pressing against the curtain. He is a weirdo. He is a theatrical, overdramatic weirdo. I don't like drama in women. I definitely don't like it in men. And I definitely don't like it in men that hold positions like these where you need to have a calm and clear head. That's scary that he was in this role.
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In this eye-opening episode, we scrutinize the ‘big beautiful bill’ being pushed through Congress. Explore the hidden debts and controversial measures embedded within, including taxation on Social Security and green energy expenditures. Delve into the arguments for and against, as well as the political class's true priorities as discussed by prominent voices airing their frustrations over political maneuvering and electorate expectations.
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it questions who was actually making the decisions. So what we found is not just with the pardons he issued, but many of the executive orders that the courts are now using to Trump-proof, many of the executive orders that President Trump is trying to implement to make government more efficient, many of these executive orders, as well as the pardons of Biden's entire family as a result of our investigation, these were all signed with the auto pen. And clearly from that interview, which was many, many months prior to the heavy use of the Autopen, Joe Biden wasn't capable of making decisions. He wasn't coherent. We think we've identified who the staffers are. Jason, you all have done great work with that over at Heritage Oversight. We're going to bring everyone that we believe was involved in any role the use of the auto pin, we're going to invite them to come in for a transcribed interview. If they want, then they will receive a subpoena and they will have a full-blown deposition. But we want to find out who was actually making the decisions in the White House during the last nine months of the Biden administration when he was clearly in mental decline.
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Yeah, I think that that's a big... You know what? And they brought it on themselves. I don't feel bad for Democrats with this because they brought this on themselves. They were... I mean, this is what happens when you're not transparent and then people don't want to trust you. And you can't get mad that people don't want to trust you because you're not transparent. You did this. They Democrats did this entirely to themselves. And you can't blame people for saying, wow, I mean, did you get a load of Biden? He looks bad. Oh, my gosh. Did you hear the story about all the it looks bad? You can't you can't blame people for that. having questions about that and then wondering about, you know, was he in his right mind with all of this? Was he? Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour. And we also have to, I'm going to just rather gouge my eyes out with a two by four to talk about this big, beautiful bill. And it's a big issue. This, it's a very big issue. The big, beautiful bill. that they're trying to get past. There's hang-ups on the SALT deductions, which we're going to dive into. There's hang-ups on everything. Yeah, so POTUS had a number of meetings this morning. He was in the Capitol on the Hill, and I want you to listen to some of what he said because he met with Johnson separately. He met with different committee members. Listen to what he said here. This was just this morning.
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I think we're a very unified party. The Senate's doing great. John Thune is doing fantastically. He's a great guy. And we're going to have a bill, the one big, beautiful bill I think it's going to be. It's the biggest bill ever passed, and we've got to get it done. Tremendous tax cuts for people, tremendous incentives, tremendous regulation cuts, all these regulations that are so horrible.
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So I don't agree with him on everything here, and we're going to dive into that, like the tax cuts. And, I mean, there's still taxes and Social Security that are included in this, the deductions of Shell Game. You have the Green New Deal. All of that is included in there. We're going to give you some numbers. So just so you understand, this is what he's been doing all morning, and they're really trying to get – a number of these lawmakers to give up these salt deductions. And that's basically, can you remember the whole argument about red states? They were coming up with the narrative about red states being welfare states because blue states fund them.
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Do you remember that whole thing? Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, I remember that clearly. Well, guess what? It's not true, in fact. It's kind of the other way around, and we're going to discuss that. By the way, when he said Lorraine literally just typed what I thought, that's creepy. She's in my head. She typed what I thought. I was like, biggest bill doesn't mean a great. It's not necessarily great because it's big. Just because it's a big bill doesn't mean it's a great thing. But it's beautiful. No, it's not. It's a, it's a, it's a buck tooth hack. It's not beautiful. Huh?
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It's big and beautiful.
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It's not big and beautiful. It's not a soap opera. You know, it's not a soap opera. We're not doing that. We're not doing it. So again, all of this, we've got the latest with Comey because he's went on MSNBC last night trying to defend himself. So big day, big day. And we'll have all of it. All right. So first and foremost, let's, can we talk about the bill? Gosh, I really don't want to. You guys are done with all the politicking, right? You are. So let me just where to start. So this big, beautiful bill, as you know, is not. It adds a lot of debt, a lot. In fact, I mean, we're it's not it's not a great deal. We've got all the green new scam stuff in there. In fact, 700 billion dollars. of the it's roughly about 700 to 900 billion dollars of the green new scam. It's all still included in the original. That's all from the inflation. I hate saying this because it's not Inflation Reduction Act. So the 1.2 that is in the the Inflation Reduction Act of that about 700 to 900 billion dollars is still included. In the big beautiful bill. That's a bad thing. It's not a good thing to have. So that's in there. And I know that they're trying to get this passed. And I know that there's pressure from the administration to get this passed. I think Trump needed to ask for more. I'm sorry, but this is not what we voted for. We didn't vote for taxes on Social Security. We didn't vote for taxes on retired military pay. We didn't vote to keep funding the Green News scam. We didn't vote to keep funding that. Are you a traitor, Rhino, if you don't want taxes on your Social Security? Because that's what the paid influencers are saying. And they're paid. That's a fact. That's what the paid influencers are saying. Do you think... If you're a politician... And your voters demanded that you do not tax their Social Security. And it is a tax. Again, the people telling you that it's not are lying to you. And I don't care the letter after their name. I don't get kickbacks from this. So I can be honest. See, I don't have special interests slipping money in my pocket like some of these rat bastards do in D.C. So I can be straight with you on this. It's a shell game. Did you vote for that? Did you vote to continue funding Joe Biden's green new scam? Because the things that I'm saying are unarguable facts. They are 100000 percent in this bill. The latest draft that they're now trying to get the trying to push to get codified. It's all in here. 700 to 900 billion dollars of the original 1.2. They think that's a great cost savings bill. Mike Johnson thinks that, oh my gosh, look at all the money I'm saving you. Instead of paying, you know, $1.2 trillion for Joe Biden's Green News scam, you're only going to be paying $900 billion. Wow, what savings. You got the Green News scam at a discount. Amazing. But it's still in there. So if you're a politician and your people are telling you that they don't want this stuff and you vote accordingly, should you be primaried? It's a serious question. If your voters tell you, please, for the love of all things holy, do not tax our Social Security. If you've got veterans telling you, please do not tax our retired military pay. If you have voters saying, please do not spend our hard-earned taxpayer dollars on green use scam. We just found out all the stuff we were on the hook for with USAID. Please no more. And if your lawmaker... If you're telling that to your lawmaker and your lawmaker votes the way that you demand, should he be primaried? Because that's the threat that's coming down on the Republicans that are refusing to vote for this. Now, the argument is, oh, well, what other plans do they have? Oh, they had an epic butt ton of plans. Shall I spend the next three hours in the weeds boring you to death with all of the addendums, all of the proposed amendments, all of the proposed everything, the line, all of it? Should I? Because I can. There was a lot of actually really good stuff that was kicked around a committee that never made it in the final bill. I was loving some of the stuff that I was reading. Holy cow. Like actually not only making the 2017 tax cuts permanent, but lowering them further. That was rejected. Why? Why in the hell was that rejected? I'm going to tell you what. Guns, money and life are all I care about. I don't care what else these Congress people do. I don't care if they buy and sell endangered dolphins on the black market. I don't care. You leave my guns, money and life alone and I'm cool with you. I don't care what the hell you do. I really don't care. You leave my nut and my ammo alone. I'm good. I'm golden pony boy. But the moment that you start messing around with that stuff, Katie, bar the door. I want your scalp. So this is how I'm looking at it. So no, we're not doing this. This is exactly, all this stuff is in there. And they're talking about primarying some of these cats. You got Mike Lawler. And look, no ill will towards Mike Lawler. All's fair on the playground, right? I mean, I get it. He's, you know, he comes from a kind of purpley district, right? This cat wants Planned Parenthood funding in there, and it's still in there. Are we funding Planned Parenthood, guys? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Are we? Because it's all in there. I just got a lot of questions. Why are we funding any of this? Don't call it a big, beautiful bill. It's a big, giant bastard. That's what it is. It's not a big, beautiful bill. Good night. You are being scammed right now. And you've got like Mike Lawler who wants all this stuff in. The salt. He's like, oh, no, he likes the salt. He wants to keep his bailouts. We're going to talk about salt and exactly what that means and how red staters are on the hook for it. Because this is nonsense. Red states should not be paying a federal offset for these blue states because these people are dumb enough. I'm sorry if I get it. You got jobs and family there. Leave. I don't care. Leave. I lived in downtown St. Louis. I left. Leave. You deserve better. Hell, I would take you in Texas. Come on. Unless you vote Democrat. And then Texas is above the Red River. Wink, wink. It's Oklahoma, but it's okay. But these blue states, they got high taxes. Super high taxes. And these people think that we, everybody else in red states, should pay the offset on that. We're going to talk about that in depth. So I don't know. One of the things is that there was a blue state or there was a salt deal that was proposed last night in a meeting by Mike Johnson. And Trump said that these blue state Republicans should be taking that deal. And he said that they should get mad at their governors for having bad tax policy. Well, that's not wrong. They should be mad at their governors. They should be mad at their state lawmakers for having bad tax policy. They want a cap salt deduction at $40,000. I don't think you should have a deduction. I want you to feel the pain the rest of us do. If you're going to live in New York where they're going to tax and spend you to death, why in the hell should red staters bail out your grifting welfare backsides? Why? Oh, I will go to war over this. This is asinine. We are overtaxed and overburdened. We have taxation without representation. We literally went to war for less than this. You see these memes where you have like these two wolves. They're looking at a campfire. These people are on a campfire. It's like early days of mankind. And they're like. It looks like they got some good food over there at that fire. Should we go over there and see what they have? And the other wolf's like, yeah, what's the worst that could happen, right? And then fast forward. And you have all these deformed dogs like Frenchies and all that. And I broke my back because I jumped up on the couch. It's very similar to where we are with patriotism and original intent, right? Like back in the day, we went to war because they were going after RT and we had the Stamp Act and all this. And it looks like a pittance compared to what we have now. George Washington is looking at us from above, disappointed. Our partners over at Super Beats, Super Bering, if you haven't tried the product, you should. It supports healthy metabolism and healthy blood sugar, and it'll change the way you think about metabolism. It's plant-based, doctor-formulated. It has a unique form of berberine, an Italian olive fruit extract for additional antioxidant and cardiovascular support, and it's clinically studied. to deliver nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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It's kind of sad if you guys need some chickens. A shipment of thousands of chicks were found abandoned in a USPS truck. There you go. Now overwhelming an animal shelter in Delaware. They're trying to rehome thousands of chicks that survived being left in a postal service truck for three days. They had no food or water. Thousands died. Thousands of them died before they were even discovered. They're trying to figure out how 12,000 chicks were abandoned in this Delaware mail distribution. It's the United States Postal Service. That's why. You want to know why? Because it's the USPS. God love your drivers, but that damn agency runs like A-double snakes. Do you know if I send a letter, unless I send it certified overnight, if I send a letter from Texas, it takes over a month. to get to my hometown in St. Louis. That is not even an exaggeration. Happy to show you the stamp. Hands to sky. More packages are lost through USPS. I do not send anything through it because I can't guarantee it, even if I buy insurance for it. That's how bad it is. So I am completely not surprised that you had thousands of these chicks that were left to die in this damn distribution center. They said, oh, they were aware of a process breakdown. They're probably going to need more taxpayer dollars, I'm sure. Remember, they kept saying they needed more tax money. Over bloated government entity that can't run right and you want more money. And then how that works in your job. If you perform badly, you get a raise. Hell no. So they said that Freedom Ranger Hatchery in Pennsylvania, they raised the chicks for their weekly distribution of clients around the country. And they said the hatchery can't take the chicks back because of biosecurity concerns. So they're trying to find... They're at the First State Animal Center, SPCA. They're trying to find people to pick them up. But that's just cruel. I hope they find the people responsible and drag them. Drag. Also, let's see here. Fears of a new super cartel as Mexico's most violent gangs make a terrifying alliance. This was only a matter of time. You knew this was going to happen. They have the Jalisco, the Sinaloa cartels that are there. I guess it's like cartel unionizing in a way. But they said that in the three others. are forming an alliance that could prove deadly. They're having a major problem. I mean, let's not forget that mayoral candidate that was shot and killed on a live stream just a couple of weeks ago. The Trump administration reached a $5 million settlement with Ashley Babbitt's family per Newsweek. They agreed to pay the family of Babbitt to settle the lawsuit brought by her family. The AP said that they talked to DOJ. to get a comment but uh you guys remember the story of ashley babbitt well now they've settled for that i mean that's insane it was the first cop shooting that the left loved oh they celebrated that guy that guy was a moron too he had no idea what his what was behind his target which is the first rule of firearms stick with us a lot more in store with all family pharmacy they have you covered no matter what it is that you need maybe it's your everyday medications maybe it's the stuff that the government tried to keep from you the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine And maybe you want to just make sure that you have some emergency kits, some antibiotics in case that you may need them in a pinch. And this is where All Family Pharmacy comes in. If you haven't gone to their website and looked at everything that they have, they have hundreds of medications. It's simple, fast, and affordable. No insurance, no problem. They have straightforward pricing, online ordering, shipping in just two to four days. You can get it overnight in a pinch. Your health is always within reach. And they make it super easy. There are no gatekeepers. You can use code Dana10 to get 10% off of your entire order as well. And everything is made in the USA. All inputs, everything. So you got high standards of quality and safety. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off. Use promo code Dana. Protect yourself and your family today at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10.
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Say it.
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I'm a fiscal hawk.
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I'm a bigger fiscal hawk. There's nobody like me as a fiscal hawk.
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Because we have to fix the country. No, I don't think Thomas Massey understands government.
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I think he's a grandstander, frankly. He'll probably vote. We don't even talk to him much. I think he should be voted out of office. And I just don't think he understands government. If you ask him a couple of questions, he never gives you an answer. He just says, I'm a no. He thinks he's going to get publicity. And you have that. You have that. They've got some, too.
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OK, first off, God love Trump. But that's ironic right there. I mean, dude, you're a grandstander. And we like it, but let's not mess around. You're a grandstander. So I find that a little rich. I find that to be a little much. But additionally... The, you know, saying that he's doing it for publicity is I think that that's, you know, that's that's a dumb take. It's a dumb take. It is. That's not correct. He's not doing it for publicity. He's doing it because, you know, he promised voters that this is something that he voters wanted this done. And he is fulfilling the voters wishes. And trying to cut spending, which was what we promised. I mean, you know, if you're going to be pissed at him for trying to keep you honest, that's on you, not him. That's just the real truth of it. And by the way, for the people that want to weep and gnash teeth, if you think that in order to be a patriot, you have to be in lockstep with government, that's the antithesis of being a patriot. Being a patriot doesn't mean you kiss the ass of your government overlords and you try to be besties with your government. That's not what it's about. We are supposed to have an antagonistic relationship with them. That keeps it healthy. We're not supposed to be BFFs. You know, we're not supposed to be like, you know, it's not a ride or die type of situation. A lot of people are getting it twisted. I want what is best for us, the voting taxpayer. Bottom line, anybody that gets in the way of that or gets sideways of that, I got an issue with. And you should, too. This is why you go out and vote. It's what motivates you to do this. Look, I don't agree with Massey on everything, but I'm going to tell you what. There's no bigger fiscal hawk in the House than Thomas Massey. And for the people who argue otherwise, no offense, but you don't know squat. You clearly don't pay attention to his voting record. You don't pay attention to his work on the committees. You don't pay attention to any of the history of his votes. He has been a consistent conservative fiscal hawk. That is indisputable. More so than Mike Lee. More so than Ted Cruz. Pretty much more so than anybody. Even Chip Roy, who's going to be on later. Anybody in the house. And I like Chip Roy, too. And he doesn't seek publicity. No offense. The guy's a nerd. He has a farm in Kentucky. And he didn't make like a I don't know. He makes his farm equipment. It's the craziest thing. You went to MIT. He's an engineer. But he also knows that he was sent there for a purpose. What's the point of going there if he's not going there to serve voters? So what Trump said is not helpful. We don't need stuff like that. If Thomas Massey is your enemy, you got an issue. And if you're going to sit here and criticize Thomas Massey more than Mike Lawler, the guy who literally wouldn't vote for the bill because it was going to cut Planned Parenthood funding, the guy who's begging for salt cap, come on, or for more, an increase in the cap, come on. The priorities are twisted. And I do think this, I got to say this too, with some of these lawmakers, I get why they They think that they're right in holding out for the SALT tax. Now, if you are unfamiliar with what the SALT tax is, it's like a deduction that allows you to write off taxes. a portion of your state and your local taxes. You can deduct that from your paycheck. This is what you can deduct. You can deduct it from your paycheck if you're W-2. What you estimate you're going to pay in taxes if you're self-employed. And they have a limit on it. And it's really, really... It's something that blue states... absolutely love it's the only tax cut i think that or like a cap to reduce taxes that they like that the left likes because they live in these high tax states right think like new york think about new york's taxes my gosh illinois's taxes oh my gosh california's i mean they love them some of the salt tax they like it washington dc let me let's let me give you the list of the just to illustrate my point you have the highest the highest uh The top five states for the SALT deduction are the highest taxed areas in terms of state and local. Washington, D.C., Maryland, California. The bottom, Wyoming, Ohio, North Dakota. Right? So you have New York, California. You got Oregon. You got Washington. A lot of the New Hampshire, a lot of these blue states, they... I mean, they have the highest deductions. In fact, I think this is the latest data from 2022 that they have. And the deductions that they have on this, and again, it is, we're actually subsidizing them. Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, they have the highest, the largest SALT deductions. And they capped it at 10. The bottom five, again, as you know, Wyoming, Tennessee, Nevada. But these are blue states that they're basically, you're subsidizing them because they have higher tax rates in their state due to state and local taxes than you do in your red state. And so we're subsidizing them, essentially. I mean, not essentially, we are. We're subsidizing them. I think that's a point you were making. So Mike Lawler, he's a guy that he's been pushing for that. He wants to protect his... welfare. Instead of raising, you know, instead of lowering taxes for everybody, they wanted everybody's taxes to be high, but then you get to offset, you have to offset their higher taxes in their blue states. Cain's mad. You're mad over there. I can tell when you're mad because you constantly with your hands and you're shaking your head. What? Go ahead. Go off. Go off.
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I mean, it's exactly how you described it. I mean, this is essentially these states are saying we want to continue with our high taxes. So in order for us to continue with our high taxes and then be, of course, voted back into office later, we need these high salt deductions so that essentially these people feel like there's some sort of relief from us when in fact we're
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It's like you're funding the aristocracy. These are deductions that only benefit super progressives in blue states, right? It is your... They get these carve-outs. It also increases the deficit, and it also goes against his tax policy from his first term. I mean, that's the reality of it. And... Originally, now Trump did. Now he did. He was for it originally. And then he ended up being against it later on. And I think that that's where some of these Republicans feel like, like Mike Lawler and others, they feel like they're justified in this position because Trump originally was for it. He had told Real Clear Politics just the first week of this month that salt benefits for blue states were needed, quote, because those states are very badly behind. And now he says raising the cap only benefits Democrat governors. And we don't want to benefit Democrat governors was his direct quote to Politico on camera. So he went in the span of under a month. He has supported it. And so now you can see why some of these like Lawler and others are so entrenched on them because they had the green light. First week of May, it was all cool. Now it's not. And so now Lawler and Trump are fighting over this. Guys, this is a mess. First off, no, we're not subsidizing it. Have your damn governors lower their and state legislatures lower your taxes because I pay what I pay in tax. By God, I'm not paying for your grifting ass in New York and nor is anybody else that's working hard. You got these people, blue collar workers working their backsides off. And then what? They're supposed to subsidize these blue state welfare queens. Are you kidding me? Hell no. So absolutely. And why is it that Mike Lawler is praised and Thomas Massey, he said he's being told that he should be primary. Why? Is that not some BS? Sorry, but that's wrong. It's wrong. I don't get it. This is not the way to handle this. And I always keep hearing this is the stupid argument. I had a friend that was telling me this this morning. Well, you know, we really have two options. Do nothing and all of our taxes go up or we can pass this flaw. And it's it's deeply flawed, but it seems, you know, less problematic. How long have you heard that? You've been you are hit with that emotional blackmail every damn time. Well, all of our taxes are going to go up. And if we pass this bill, it just seems less worse. No, all of our taxes keep going up and we're in this position because this is the argument that we're presented with every single time. Every time. It's a false choice. No, we're not going to do anything. You're going to go back and you're going to give a bill that we voted for or we're going to make your life hell. I actually enjoy this. you know, politically speaking, making lawmakers' lives hell. This was part of the Tea Party that I loved. Oh my gosh. I felt like Bain. I have a particular set of skills. I feel like we're going to need to go back. We are right now, I need you to understand, we are at the place right now where the pre-Tea Party Republicans are about to make a big comeback. That's where we're at. Everything that's happened in the past, we've never been able to implement fully conservatism. fiscally or really anywhere else because everybody's too damn afraid of the austerity it would require. They don't want to turn off the government spigot. They like bringing home the bacon and being feted by their districts. So this is a problem. It is a major problem. We shouldn't be subsidizing these blue states. We shouldn't be subsidizing the Green News scam. 700 to 900 out of the 1.2 trillion of Joe Biden's Green New Deal is still in there. And then we got this fight over the SALT deductions. They want to cap it at 40,000 with an income cap at 751,000 for four years. And then it would snap back to 40,000 with an income cap of 400. Why not just get rid of all this? This is so stupid. It is so dumb. But you have these blue state taxes that are killing people. And instead of reducing their taxes, they think you should be able to make up the offset that they get to deduct, but you don't. And that's a real problem, a major problem. And then we have, of course, the media going after Medicaid cuts. There's a piece over at NBC where they're saying, oh, a liberal group is launching an ad campaign, slamming Medicaid cuts. Now, reminder, they're not cutting anything but waste, fraud and abuse. Do you think that someone who is here illegally, who's never paid into the system, should be getting Medicaid? I mean, if you cut that, NBC says that you're just cutting Medicaid. There's no nuance to these people. We're going to talk about this coming up. GoldCo is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings. Just fill out a quick form, no commitment, just free information. And then they'll ship you your free 2025 gold and silver kit straight to your door. 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SPEAKER 01 :
But then could we not also say, ostensibly, there hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008. Are they not also a threat to democracy? We often hear... Fair enough. That is...
SPEAKER 25 :
I'm not going to argue with that point. And that's why I'm proudly an independent.
SPEAKER 20 :
He's not an independent. He caucuses with Democrats. Come on, he votes with Democrats. He can sit here and act like he's a Democrat all he wants or an independent all he wants to. But the reality is he's absolutely a Democrat. That's who Democrats are, though. They're so far left that It's that I mean, they're just so far left. That's where they are. They're socialists. They're commies. I mean, I don't look at the policies that they're pushing. Look how mad they are of the assault deductions and the Medicaid. And the ads that are coming up that are slamming Medicaid cuts, Medicaid cuts and the bill. So they have this ad where they have a single mother who says she relies on Medicare for her special needs son. And she said Republicans want to take away our health care so billionaires can get another tax break. That doesn't even make sense. That literally does not make sense. So Republicans want to take away your health care for billionaires to get a tax break? How does that work? How do billionaires get a tax break if waste, fraud, and abuse is cut from Medicare? How does that work? No, that's not how that works at all. I really need the mother in this ad to... and the people who made it to understand how taxes work. That would be great. They're running it all around in certain states, so not every state is going to see this ad. But they launched it this week. And this is all going after the quote-unquote big beautiful bill, which is a big giant tired sandwich. But it is. But how does this give billionaires, or sorry, not Medicare, Medicaid correction? I don't know why I said Medicare. But if you cut Medicaid, waste, fraud and abuse, how does that give billionaires a tax break? I'm so tired of this line by people who don't know how to do government or they don't understand fiscal policy or civics or anything else. You're not giving billionaires a tax break. break by making sure that there isn't fraud and abuse in Medicaid. I don't even think we should have government services like this in the first place, because I think that we should have no income tax and we should deregulate. And if we had like the system, the way it was envisioned by the founders under the enumerated powers of Article 1, Section 8, we wouldn't need to have it because you would be able to subsist on your own. You could have a family that operates on one income instead of having both parents go out and work. But see, Democrats don't want to address all that. If you support those things, somehow you're cruel. You're cruel to expect people to work for a living. You're cruel to expect people to do something in exchange for a monetary value. Oh, my gosh, it's so evil. We're going to talk more about this because we got our eyes on it. We got the fight over the... the SALT cap, the SALT deduction. And whether or not, I mean, we're going to get taxed regardless. We're not cutting spending. There's no doge cuts. None of that's in here. So it's a giant stupid bill that you're being, it's being sold to you like it's some great thing. And it's not. It's not. It's not anything remotely like the thing he passed in 2017 with the tax cuts. It's not. This is just a joke. It's a joke. And I'm not going to pretend that it is. It's anything else for clicks. So let the thirst whores go out there and do that. We have a lot more on the way as we roll towards our second hour. We got Chip Roy, we got Ted Nugent, a lot of people coming up. Stick with us. Summer is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, lake days, even just relaxing in a hammock with a good book. Spending time with friends and family, catching sunset views. But if you're living with pain... Those future memories can be stolen from you. It's kind of hard to enjoy the simple moments when you're in pain. So here's a thought. Try Relief Factor. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement designed to help your body fight pain. It's a doctor-developed formula made with natural ingredients. And unlike pain meds that just mask it, Relief Factor works to reduce, even eliminate, your pain for good. So whether you're spending time at the lake or chasing your kids or grandkids or just enjoying a summer stroll, Relief Factor can help you feel better, move better, and do more of what you love. Reclaim your summer. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF to get the three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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No, actually I've got a lot of people in the MAGA base who realize that we could have done this differently. We could extend the tax cuts and paid for them but instead we're not. I mean over here the people in favor of this bill say that under the policies of this bill we're going to add 20 trillion dollars to debt over the next 10 years which is three and a half to five trillion dollars more
SPEAKER 20 :
So this is the reality of this situation. First off, that's Thomas Massey. That was just a little bit earlier. And he was asked about the tax cuts in this big, beautiful bill. And we're focusing on this right now because The progress of this is they said that I think they're trying to have it done by or before Memorial Day. I think by Memorial Day. Right. I think Congress, you know, that they're going to try to beat each other over the head and get this done because they want an extended weekend. They want to be out this weekend. They don't they don't want to be there. They don't want to be there. So this. intensity is going to last the week. And so we're focusing on it right now because they're right now wheeling, dealing, trying to cut deals, trying to whip votes and do all this stuff. And POTUS was on the Hill earlier today. And he is, you know, he wants to get this bill passed, but this bill is incredibly problematic. And I'm warning you, I don't even think I don't think it gives short term relief even. I disagree with that. His tax cuts in 2017 were great. That was a great piece of legislation and he did the right thing. That's how that was an example of him managing it well. He went in and he strong armed those moderates that did not want to pass it. And was able to provide relief with real actual tax cuts. They weren't made permanent, though. And so if that all of our taxes are going to go up. But here's the problem. You can either have your taxes are going to go up right now. This is I'm looking at it. Just bear with me. Your taxes are probably going to go up regardless. And here's why. Because this right here, we don't have permanency. We still have taxes on Social Security, taxes on retired military pay. We're adding over $3 trillion to the deficit. We're funding about, what would you say, 80%, 85% of the Green News scam? Oh, yeah. I mean, what was the figure? Let me pull up my notes. Forgive me here. I think it was, what, $1.2 trillion, the Green News scam. And so we're funding about... anywhere from 700 to 900 billion of it. So that's all in there still. That is all absolutely in there. And the other, I mean, which is also incredibly problematic, but you also have, goodness, I think the Planned Parenthood stuff is still in there. This is a mess. There's a lot of things that are wrong with this bill. And the problem is by passing it, You're going to Republicans are going to be able to have an excuse to not revisit any serious cuts in spending or tax cuts because they're going to go on. They're going to operate on the narrative that they already did this. So you're not going to get it. You're not going to get any real kind of cuts, any real kind of savings later. What like in September when they kick the big hand on the road, they have to come back. You're not going to get any of that. That's not going to happen. So that's you know, that's all that's all gone. And honestly, I don't even like the the the salt stuff. I mean, this is the the whole thing is rigged. I think the salt the salt deduction is unconstitutional. I think it's criminal to make red states subsidize the deductions from blue states just because they can't hold their legislatures accountable and have lower taxes. That's a con job. And I am livid. Remember the narrative that we all had, that we all heard from Democrats? When was that, by the way? That was during the end of Trump's first presidency, his first term. When it was another budget battle and I remember everyone was saying, no, blue states subsidize red states. And here's how that was a lie, because it's actually in reverse. We subsidize them because of the salt deductions that they take that they get because they live in dumb, high tax states. That's the truth of it. So they it's a rigged system. So instead of having like a responsible system or, you know, just completely abolish the IRS and stop surveilling people over income, they do this. So it's all rigged and it's all unconstitutional. So it is my point is that this is going to be a major problem regardless because of the deficit, the addition, the additional debt we're going to we're going to incur with us. That's going to have to come from somewhere. You either can start austerity now or you can fall off a cliff later. Those are your options. So whenever people tell you, oh, well, your options are you have to pass it, your taxes are going to go up. No, no, no. You either start practicing austerity now or you lose your ass coming up. That's a guarantee. That is, you can take it to the bank. You can bet the house on it. Whatever. That is promised. It's a real thing. And this is this Rube Goldberg thing that they're doing with this, trying to structure it like this is just goofy. It's goofy. It's got to stop. So that's the fight that we're having with this big budget bill. And, again, not a fan of it. We're going to talk more about it as well. We've got – Chip Roy is going to be joining us coming up to talk about some of this. We also are going to talk to – Ted Nugent is going to join us a little bit as well. But this – it's a huge issue because, again, they're trying to get it done by Memorial Day. They want it done by Memorial Day so that they – that was the plan originally. And we'll see if they make it happen. Now, I want to switch. for a minute talk about a couple of other things james comey was on msnbc after we were on air yesterday and uh he was trying to explain that he just he just didn't realize that you know he was walking on the beach with his wife and his story is they just happened to look down and see it do you believe that kane uh no that they i'm sorry did i say no i meant hell no He just, they acted like that they just happened to see it. And he just didn't know. Audio soundbite, which one should I do, 19 or 21st? Which is least believable. Which is least believable. Let's do 19. Listen, this was him on MSNBC right after we finished our show yesterday. You are back in the middle of a political firestorm.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, I'm sorry, Juan. You're going to hate me right now. Juan was already ready. Okay, first off, okay. It wasn't because he was walking on the beach with his wife. How dare you, James Comey? You're not allowed to walk on the beach with your wife. That is disallowed. Thou shalt not. It wasn't because of that. It was because he formed shells in the 86-47 and then put it on Instagram like a thirsty little influencer. That's why. Get it right. Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. Juan's going to hate me so bad because he has these awesome transitions and I'm going to let it play this time. Okay, promise. You were back in the middle of a political firestorm.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, for walking on the beach with my wife. So I don't know how we ended up here. Never occurred to me that it was any kind of controversial thing, but that's the time we live in.
SPEAKER 20 :
So controversial. I mean, I never knew that this is how we ended up here. I never knew it. That was only 13 seconds long and I couldn't even get through it. How sad is that? I mean, I just can't believe I was walking on the beach with my wife. And I said, we're here. So audio somebody 20. They asked him a little bit more about it. Listen to what he says here.
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But just again and again and again, I really thought that I was done. I was in another life. I was a grandfather and an author wearing sweaters and jeans. And then I went for a walk on the beach and posted a silly picture of shells that I thought was a clever way to express a political viewpoint. And actually, I still think it is. I don't see it the way some people are still saying it is. But again, I don't want any part of any violence. I've never been associated with violence. And so that's why I took it down.
SPEAKER 20 :
By the way, you know, the the idea, the the term because I love how people now are getting into the etymology of the word 86 or the phrase. And people are like, I just it doesn't mean to kill anyone. Actually, it means to get rid of. Yes, it does. It means to get rid of 80 miles out and six feet under. That's an actual phrase. That's an actual it's actually it's a phrase from the Hoffa days. Jimmy Hoffa. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, he was 86 under the end zone, a giant stadium. That's yeah. So anyone that's why I'm like for for James Comey to not understand that phrase. You're an you're an idiot. That is what I almost said something else. But I didn't.
SPEAKER 16 :
He's playing. He's he's pretending to be an idiot.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
He knows what he's doing.
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, I worked in, hey, guess what? I worked in the restaurant industry. I was a server for years when I was in college. And 86 means to us is killed off the menu. But I love these people who are like, let's study the phrase. Let's look at the etymology of the slang phrase. 86. And all of these people who were guerrilla experts under Harambe and rocket experts with Elon Musk. And yeah. Also like film experts with the video of somebody trying to kill POTUS, all that. And now they're like, let's study the etymology of 86. No, it meant 80 miles out and six feet under. You had to dig your grave 80 miles out from Harambe. town or wherever everybody was living and six feet under that's where 86 comes from that's that phrase and uh it was actually used widely i went back and i was because i'm like i know that that's been used i mean hell they talked about in the irishman when it was a film about the guy who was supposedly 86 toffa and that's a common phrase It's used in a number of different industries. You cannot tell me that somebody is the top cop in the land and doesn't know what that phrase means. I don't buy that. And if you're that dumb, why are you in that position? Oh my gosh. But what's more, and I know I said this yesterday, not all dudes are like this. I think it's a rare thing. But every now and then you come across a dude who has like angry ex-girlfriend vibes. You know what I mean? Like bunny boiler vibes. How old is he? How old is James Comey? I said yesterday on Waters that I think he's old enough to be my dad. He might be. Oh, totally. Yeah, he could be. So he's that old. And you know that he arranged those shells like that himself. And he's just trying to align about it to give himself plausible deniability, which I think is... I mean, it's bad to share that sentiment. But how weird is it that a 64-year-old dude is doing that? I can confidently say I know of no man... below the age of 64 or at or over that age, that would do something like that because that is so cringe. They would die immediately. It's instant death. It's that cringe. That's weird, right? Isn't that like obsessive? That is obsessive. Think about it. This is like his second book. He's got a new book coming out. It's his second book. That's obsessive. Remember when he was in the White House and they were all meeting with POTUS and he was hiding behind a curtain? Do you remember that? Kane, do you remember that? It was on video. He was... Oh, no, no, no, no. He was like hiding behind a curtain. And he talked about it later that he was... He felt very weird. He didn't really want to... He tried to blend in with the White House curtains. And he was the tallest guy in the room. Tallest guy in a room. And he was trying to like push himself all the way back into the curtains. And it was so obvious that... It was so obvious. There are all of these like stills of the video. And when you look at it, he literally is standing all the way back, pressing against the curtain. He is a weirdo. He is a theatrical, overdramatic weirdo. I don't like drama in women. I definitely don't like it in men. And I definitely don't like it in men that hold positions like these where you need to have a calm and clear head. That's scary that he was in this role. Look, it makes sense to diversify your weapons array. I'm not going to tell you not to carry. I think you should carry a gun. And I think that you should not be afraid to use it in defense of yourself or a loved one. 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You have to wait for that to kick in right after those drums right there. Oh, it's so good. Welcome back. Dana Lasher with you. We are at the bottom of the second hour. You can listen coast to coast. Channel 347 is the stream. Joining me right now, one of my favorite people on God's green earth. He really he doesn't need any introduction. He's a rock and roll icon. He is a legendary outdoorsman. He gave me the best advice when I first started using a bow. He gave me the best advice. Uncle Ted Nugent, who joins us now via, I mean, that's his bunker. Look at his bunker. Good night. He's got his dog on his cup. He's got his guitars. I see a big old giant. I mean, I love the safe in the background. Good to see you, Uncle Ted. God bless you, my friend.
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Dana Lash, Dana Lash, Dana Lash. There are man caves, and then there's the Ted Nugent man cave, cuckoo's nest, arsenal of democracy.
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Yes, that that what he is in that bunker that he is in right now is every man's dream. Every man's dream. He just froze on us. We're going to get him back. He just of course, he froze on us right at the right at the go part. We're going to get him back and he's going to unleash because there's a few things that are happening. And we're that we got the Hearing Protection Act. We also have this potential re maybe recension of the Gun Control Act. All right. We got Uncle Ted back right now. So I know, let me ask you this because, you know, you're a lifelong outdoorsman, you know, hunting, you know, better than pretty much almost anybody. You also know, like wildlife management. So it's not just like hunting and shooting, but you actually get like the land management, the hunting and all of that. And one of the cool things that I'm fingers crossed, I was hearing from lawmakers that they're still arguing this that's in this bill that they're battling over the Hearing Protection Act with suppressors. And I just want to ask you that about that real quick, because you're considered like if you go overseas to hunt for My friends that go overseas to bird hunt, they're like, if you don't shoot suppressed, you're kind of looked at like the rudest person that's ever lived. But over here, they act like, oh, my gosh, it's a magical thing that makes the gun totally. It doesn't work like that. What are your thoughts on this whole thing?
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Well, I don't have any thoughts. I have some conclusions. I'm a critical thinker, which is why you love me and I love you, because we are truth, logic, and common sense, critical thinking adherents, genuflecting at God's miraculous creation that is truth, logic, and common sense. And the truth, logic, and common sense, Dana, is why in God's name would I need another man's authorization or federal paperwork to make my gun quieter and safer? This is insanity. By law, I have to have a muffler on my tractor, but I've got to get a federal piece of paper to make my gun a little quieter and safer it's not a silencer it's a suppressor it just reduces the decibels uh slightly under what my guitar has been for the last 72 years the bottom line is you're absolutely correct when i hunt over in africa and over in europe even over in england and scotland which are basically still king's tyrant countries uh you can get a suppressor at the hardware store now you got to go through all kinds of insanity to get a permission to actually keep and bear arms we have that here so Ultimately, what you represent every time you open that beautiful little mouth of yours is the truth, logic, and common sense that I don't need paperwork. There's not a man that can go, oh, by the way, Ted, we're going to give you constitutional carry. I was born with constitutional carry. Dana, you know I know anybody that thinks. Anybody that actually thinks knows that all gun control laws, all of them, all of the regulations are infringements. And there's a document that says shall not be infringed. In fact, this morning I signed another thousand of these. Another thousand of these hats that say, shall not be infringed. Would people please wake up and tell your elected employees to quit infringing, stop the engineered recidivism, keep rapists and carjackers and murderers and stabbers and train pushers, keep them in cages, and let we the people keep and bear arms without any infringements. Boy, that's radical.
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I love it. I love the phrase elected employees. That is the best. I'm going to like committed that to memory. We're talking with Uncle Ted Nugent, just like the best out there. The president talked about this. First off, when he came out, he was saying that he wanted to have national reciprocity. There wasn't another president that said it. And I hope he strong arms some of these some of these losers that are in D.C. into making this happen. But he also touched upon the Gun Control Act and maybe possibly rescinding the Gun Control Act in 1968, which would be. I mean, I think you need to get rid of all of it. I agree with you. What I know this is this is something that you've talked quite a bit about. Do you think that do you think that Congress is actually going to let this happen? I feel like they're at odds with everything going on in the White House right now.
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Well, first of all, you've identified the most important battle cry for true, we the people, freedom in America, and that is the great Commander-in-Chief Donald Trump. What a relief this is. I work every day, every day, Dana, with heroes of the military, all the military branches, and for many years they've been heartbroken and depressed because the Commander-in-Chief, Joe Biden, was the actual enemy of America, the enemy of the Constitution. The deep state was the enemy. These young men and women of the US military would die for their sacred constitutional oath while the deep staters were violating the very oath that these heroes died for. The self-evident truth is that the 68 Gun Control Act, signed after the Kennedy assassinations and Dr. Martin Luther King, it not only didn't reduce violent crime or assassinations since the Gun Control Act of 1968 because of engineered recidivism. We're living in a failed court system of engineered recidivism. They knowingly let out repeat offenders to repeat offenders. Then they convict them, and then they let them out again, and they repeat offend. It's planet of the cuckoo's nest out there. So the 68 gun control was signed by Lyndon Baines Johnson. Who would trust... anything that that guy signed. It is counterproductive just like everything the government does. It's counterproductive to their claim goals because they're liars. And I, as a free man, you as a free woman, your family, God bless Chris and your kids. God bless my family, my kids, my grandkids, my band, my crew. We get to keep and bear arms, and I would like to get rid of the infringement. So here's the bottom line. Call your elected employees. Call your senator and congressman. Tell your chief of police that you stand with Kyle Rittenhouse for clear and present self-defense. Call your state trooper commander. Call your sheriff. Call your senator, your congressman, hammer your governor every day. Leave your name and number, the time that you called, and say quit with the infringements. Every other state except Texas, I think there's a couple, South Dakota and Oklahoma have some pretty good reduced infringements. But it's our fault, Dana, for not raising enough hell. I raise more hell than anybody. That's why they call me a radical, and I take it as a badge of honor.
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Yeah, you raise about as much hell as a midsize city. I mean, that's true. Like you're like your own one man army talking with our very dear friend, Uncle Ted Nugent, about all of this. I feel like we are closer with a lot of this stuff federally with a lot like pulling back a lot of these gun laws than we ever have been. And I'm so terrified that if we don't act now, then we're going to miss an opportunity because I'm worried about what Democrats have planned in 28. And I think you are, too.
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Well, once again, I can give you so many heartbreaking examples. I got a farmer buddy who's never even gotten a speeding ticket, but he's now a convicted felon by the EPA, another counterproductive, corrupt criminal bureaucracy, because he had a faulty muffler on a tractor on his farm. He's now a convicted felon. felon, and he can't exercise his God-given rights. I have so many people that made a mistake way back when they were teenagers, now they have great businesses, they employ hundreds of people, but they're a convicted felon for having a couple of joints, which was a dumb mistake, but my God, Violent criminals in Chicago are caught on film shooting each other every day with illegal guns and fully automatic federal crime seers on their pistols, and they drop the gun charges for the gangbangers, but the guy with the bad muffler can't use a .30-30 to go deer hunting. I mean, these are unbelievable examples. And, Dana, I could keep you here for 100 days. I have a Real America Voice Spirit Campfire and our Spirit of the Wild TV show on the Pursuit Network. I try to expose these atrocities, and I think people woke up. We saw the evidence November 5th. 2024. But please, people, engage. Raise hell. Go to HunterNation.org. HunterNation.org connects with conservationists, constitutionalists, conservatives. And we find out those that don't vote. And we inspire them to vote because that's what's making the difference. We proved it in November, didn't we?
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Oh, absolutely. I got to ask you about that. I want to finish with this topic. Because the news has been out. So we had the her audio with Biden's closed door testimony that came out. That was real bad. But then that immediately got shoved to the side because this news about his cancer diagnosis. And, you know, it's it's stage four. It's real bad, super aggressive. And look, I think you can have compassion all all the live long day. But also that doesn't mean you sacrifice accountability and questions. And Americans have every right to go away. Well, we'll wait a minute. We saw clearly there was a cognitive struggle. Now we have this. Everybody I had Dr. Duron yesterday who was saying, no, no, no. The question is whether or not he how how much he was dealing with this his when he ran like before he even ran. This is such a crazy issue. Who do you think was in charge in the White House? Because honestly, you cannot persuade me that he was at any point during these last four years. I don't believe it.
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until we find out who was running the United States government during Joe Biden's four years, we're not real America. Not only was he dangerously mentally ill, but more mentally ill than Joe Biden and his inner circle. I mean, just outrageous. More mentally ill than Joe Biden and his inner circle were the people that covered up for him. Can you imagine being an official, an elected employee in the United States of America and waking up every day to intentionally bamboozle, lie and deceive the American public that was at its peak? violation during the joe biden four years you know again i pray for mentally ill people even the president now he's diagnosed with cancer we're praying for joe biden but that does not mitigate or reduce the the disrespect that he earned for being such a dishonest corrupt tax torching Traitor. He's a traitor. If you open up the borders, that's treason. If you get money from our enemies in China, if that's not treason, I'm Caitlyn Jenner's boy toy. This is insanity beyond measure. These guys are so guilty of treason. Is that the ultimate analysis or what?
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I love it. That one's going to get cut for sure and be online. That one's good. No, I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you on that. And I just, you know, the fact that we have the press now, like at USA Today was like, oh, was he ever in good health? They actually... Uncle Ted, they actually ask that now. USA Today is now, all the media now are asking, oh, was he ever in good health? Wow, it looks like there were some things that were bad. We were called conspiracy theorists for seeing this earlier. Last word from you on this.
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The dishonesty level is finally being reversed. I call it the toxic, demonic toilet flush of Uncle Sam in the deep state. Thank God for Donald Trump. But more importantly, it was we the people, especially the fence sitters. And by the way, if you're sitting on the fence and you're a moderate, you don't stand for anything. And if you don't stand for anything, you're actually facilitating the evil side. Noncompliance and apathy isn't a neutral. It's supporting the evil side. And finally, enough Americans that thought they were not participating in the sacred experiment of self-government, they said, my God, men destroying women's sports that is facilitated by the party that claims they're all about women's rights. Again, there's thousands of examples, and I'm going to leave saying this, Dana, how much we love you. Because you have... the most sexy middle finger um when you set it on fire with your truth logic and common sense everywhere i go people know that we're friends they say tell dana thank you tell dana we love her you know i i have a tyrannosaurus rex scrutum of freedom award and i don't want to give it to you because you're just too beautiful but it means it means you stand up For the self-evident truth that guides the greatest quality of life in the history of the world, the only experiment in self-government in the history of the world, Dana Lash, we love you. We pray for you because you're brave beyond words. And every time you speak, you represent the best families in the asset column of the American dream. God bless you, woman. Shemaine and I love you.
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Thank you so much, Uncle Ted. And we love you and Shemaine and all your family as well. And congratulations, because I know you guys just celebrated a super happy event. I wanted to say congratulations. And I'm so happy for you all. I love that for your family. But you've really blasted the way. You have to know that. You know how many people? whether it was Gen X or millennials or Gen Z that watched you and really took a lot of cues from you. So you planted a lot of seeds in a lot of people's minds. And I think that you really made that possible. So thank you because you're an absolute American patriot. Uncle Ted Nugent, really our favorite person in all of rock and roll. God bless you, my friend. Please tell your beautiful bride hello. We will talk with you again soon. God bless. Appreciate your time.
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We're going to have some backstraps over a campfire sometime, Dana. Godspeed, baby.
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Yes, amen to that. Thank you, sir. God bless. We'll talk again. That's Uncle Ted Nugent. You can find him on X. You can find him anywhere. And meet him on tour, because he's going on tour. This man plays. I texted him the other day, and he was literally on stage. He's an absolute machine and an icon, an American legend. Your home is your biggest asset. And I don't know why you wouldn't protect it. You protect your car. You protect your money and your bank. Why would you not protect your home's title? In today's cyber world with the dominance of AI and everything else, it has never been easier to steal somebody's home title. You might think, oh, this has never happened to me. I would know. That's what you think. That's what everybody else before you has thought. They all thought the same exact thing. And guess what? It happens. You have a rando criminal that gets out there. They can forge your signature on a document, use a fake notary stamp. Pay a little bitty fee with your county. And the next thing you know, your title has been transferred out of your name. These are real actual stories. And you can track and see that this is an expanding crime. And it's really, really hard, especially after when you finally realize that it happened. It's very, very hard to make up for that. So you want to be preventative. and not reactionary with this. Because otherwise, if you're waiting to respond after you realize your title's been taken and you start getting these foreclosure notices and collection calls, the amount of money you're going to have to pay will probably bankrupt you just to get your property back. I mean, I'm talking hiring lawyers, going through litigation, the whole nine yards, because then the state's involved at this point and it is a mess. So please, for the love of all things holy, be proactive and lock up your title with hometitlelock.com. You can get a free title history report and a 14-day trial of their million-dollar triple lock protection using promo code Dana at HomeTitleLock.com. It's a free 14-day trial, 24-7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes, and should fraud happen, they'll spend up to a million dollars to fix it. Visit HomeTitleLock.com now and use promo code Dana.
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But he shot this insurance executive. And I mean, there's this whole host of people trying to justify it because their insurance got canceled. Therefore, it's okay to go assassinate some insurance worker. That is teetering on anarchy.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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This guy's mugshot, I'm pretty sure he doesn't have remorse. So this Florida man was arrested for driving drunk 118 miles per hour at 2.30 in the morning with kids in the car, just asleep in the backseat. the guy's name, Juan Espinosa, he was signaled to pull over. They immediately, look at his face. He's like, yeah, I'm not, I have no remorse there. That's a drunk grin, by the way. That is a drunk grin. They suspected that he was drunk and so they requested that he perform some sobriety test and give a breath sample and he refused. So they took him to a detention center and he totally tested. Yeah, he was inebriated. So he has DUI and child neglect without significant bodily harm. But there was a one-year-old and an eight-year-old asleep in the back seat. And he was going 118 miles per hour at 2.30 in the morning. They said recklessly, just like driving all over everywhere. Oh my, by the grace of God, this man did not hit anybody. Wow. That's just... A Florida man broke a Del Taco window after he was denied tacos at closing time. I, too, get angry when I'm denied tacos. Florida man, he was arrested, according to Charlotte County and the sheriff's office there. Anthony Izzo pulled into the drive-thru in Port Charlotte, about 30 miles away from Fort Myers. They said, they're closed. Our kitchen shut down. They put away the meat. The meat is put up. And he did not like that. They heard loud popping noises moments later. Somebody called 911 and it looked like he used a pipe wrench and hit the window four times, cracked it and then drove away. They found him at his home, police said, where he was arrested for criminal mischief. He had charged two or he cost two thousand dollars worth of damage to that drive through window. It's not their fault. They put away the meat. You know, people close. They got signs. You know, you should have checked your Google Maps before you drove up to the Del Taco. They're not, you know, and they're open late anyway. Like, good night. What time did you go there? Del Tacos are always open late. Stick with us. Third hour on the way. Our partners that bring you the program, our friends over. And Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. And if you want to be mindful of how you spend your dollars and not fund DEI and gun control and the whole nine yards, you need to make the switch today. This is nationwide coverage that you can trust. And they operate on all three major networks. So you're getting coverage. you know, the best coverage anywhere and you're staying connected wherever you go. And when you switch, it's not just about better coverage. It's also about supporting the causes that are important to you. Every dollar that you spend, you know, helps to fund the defense and advocacy for those positions, making sure that your first and second amendments are protected and needs of our veterans etc while also enjoying unbeatable nationwide coverage at a lower price they have a 100 us-based customer service team that will take care of getting you set up you can keep your number in your phone or upgrade and get a free month of service with promo code dana so make the switch today patriot mobile.com slash dana 972 patriot and get a free month of service using promo code dana switch today only at patriot mobile.com slash dana or call 972 patriot free month of service with promo code dana
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Certainly not an amplified one. And I just want to point out that he brought up issues. Um, he brought up that residents are being removed off America's streets and being deported without due process of law. That's happening. He brought up that we're abandoning our longtime allies around the globe and signing on with dictators. That is also happening.
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That is also not happening. Wait, let me do my... My name's Eddie Vedder, and I'm just going to sing like I have mashed potatoes in my mouth. Welcome back to the show.
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Dana Lash with you. Top of this third hour. He's... Wasn't he defending Bruce Springsteen? What is up with these guys that are just so... Not everybody can be Uncle Ted, I guess. Anyway, so Eddie Vedder was saying that people are just getting snatched up. They're coming in your streets. They're snatching your people up. They're taking your wives, your husbands, your kids. One viral video. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. They're not, though. I mean, you know the people that they were taking were here illegally. And then they were continuing to commit crimes. Why are they so hard up for these gangbangers? I don't get this. Like, all of these, like, they're ignoring this whole part of that story. Like, you know, the gangbanger that was all beating up his wife. Like, I would just think that you would want that guy to go. The guy who was not born here, who never lived here, and who literally was running humans. He was a trafficker. That's, you know, and he was in MS-13, is probably still. So what is this? Like, that's just stupid. You're going to go and go to bat for this guy? Well, they're just taking. Oh, now they're concerned about due process. They weren't concerned about due process when they were supporting efforts to overturn a free and fair election in 2016. They didn't support due process when they were backing gun control and red flag laws, which are like absolutely an obliteration of due process. Their support of due process is entirely situational. Furthermore, this guy got due process. He was in court three times. This guy got more due process than an American citizen fighting red flag laws, which are unconstitutional. This guy got his due process. He was in court not once. He was in court not twice. He was in court three times. And he had all these different judges come to the same conclusion. He got his due process. So stop it. Oh, they're just snatching people. These guys don't even know what due process is. My gosh, I'm so tired. If you're going to talk about politics, fine, but like do it in an educated manner. It's so tiring. Welcome back. So they've been having a fight with the hearing with Marco Rubio, as I understand it, Cain. Do you have some fire audio, sir?
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We do, actually.
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So he got into an argument, Marco Rubio, with Chris Van Hollen.
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It wasn't quite an argument, but it did create a little heat.
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Now, I'll tell you, I think that this is a good role for Marco Rubio. I don't like him as president. And I had issues after Parkland with the gun control stuff because we were right there. But this is the role that he's really good in this role. If we have this, go ahead and play it. This was a pretty contentious little soundbite. Watch.
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In the case of El Salvador, absolutely. Absolutely. We deported gang members. Gang members, including the one you had a margarita with. And that guy is a human trafficker. And that guy is a gangbanger. And the evidence is going to be clear in the days to come. Mr. Chairman. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Rubio has the floor.
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Mr. Chairman, he can't make unsubstantiated comments like that. Secretary Rubio has the floor. Secretary Rubio should take that testimony to the federal court of the United States because he hasn't done it under oath. Here's another point, okay?
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there is a division in our government between the federal branch and the judicial branch. No judge and the judicial branch cannot tell me or the president how to conduct foreign policy.
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Hmm. Yeah. Chris Van Hollen. He was a little embarrassed. Yeah. You went and, um, you went and you had literally tequila with a gang banging wife beater. But yeah, go ahead and lecture everybody else about all of this. Go ahead. Now, uh, This there's some apparently some really good soundbites. At one point, Van Hollen told Marco Rubio that he regretted confirming him, voting to confirm him as secretary of state. Rubio goes, well, that means I've done a good job. Chris Van Hollen is just what a little sniveling snit. I don't even know how to put it. Yeah, he's like, I regret. Well, then you then he's doing a good job. You margarita drinking gang banging wife beating lover. Come on. in the world like this this isn't a hearing this is them trying to have their five minutes hate and it didn't seem like rubio was having it very interesting so i don't know the whole thing we're gonna this that we're we'll continue following it but that was a very it was some good pushback from him and that they need to be reminded of this like This, you want to have a discussion about due process. Again, what about the due process for the people that were being trafficked by this Kilmar, Kilmar Abrego Garcia? The guy, the people being trafficked? Notice how Democrats haven't talked about those people's due process at all. But hey, hmm. Hey, there you go. So a few other things. The bill, I think Democrats are super excited that everybody is fighting over the budget bill, which we're going to talk about coming up. There's some developments with Chip Roy. Because they can get the Biden thing off the table now. So I was thinking about this. I really do believe that her audio coming out was bad, obviously. And I think that the Bidens wanted to distract from that by creating this sentiment of pity. They wanted to manufacture a narrative where they are once again the victims. And I think that's why they released this information and announced his diagnosis. Because you can't criticize him or ask him questions about accountability because, look, he's dealing with this. You're so evil if you do. And I have seen that being used as a deflection all day yesterday, all this morning. It has been used as a deflection all day, all yesterday. You saw it too, Cain. Like you can't criticize or ask questions because it's disrespectful. What? That's not that's a lie. That's an absolute lie. And this has been going on nonstop now. And the media I was I wrote this piece that's out on Substack. If you are a subscriber, you will have seen that. How long will the press cover for Biden? Because I was curious as to how long or if the press was going to take the bait on any of those. And he. whether or not they were going to allow him to dodge any kind of accountability or questions. Because the fact that, I mean, first you could see the cognitive issues. I think there's so many questions about the auto pin. We played James Comer's audio coming into that with our first hour. They were throwing his doctor under the bus. Listen to this. So this was from Daily Mail. This was yesterday. This was yesterday, about an hour after we were off air. Doctor who missed Biden's cancer was like a son to Jill and handpicked by the president. And there are a lot of headlines like this now where they're going after, oh, they missed it. They missed it. You didn't miss it. They undergo so many tests while they didn't miss it. And with it being so developed, there's no way they missed this. This was, they kept it. It was kept. They... They just didn't. They hid it from everyone. And I think that they were going to continue hiding it from people and just let Biden go ahead and get reelected, which, by the way, can you imagine if that had happened? Just think you would be looking at a President Kamala because everyone from most of the physicians out there are saying maybe a couple of years, if that. So he wouldn't have survived his term. And Hakeem Jeffries told the press that it was entirely inappropriate to ask questions and that Republicans are peddling conspiracy theories by doing this. No one's peddling a conspiracy theory. This is where we have every right to ask questions. I mean, if he had stayed at the top of the ticket, we would literally be looking at a President Harris because there's no way he would Biden would survive until twenty eight. And here's the other thing. Frank Biden told the press yesterday that Joe's declining health played a, quote, considerable role in his decision to drop out of the race. They all knew. But they came clean now because these reporters are all falling all over themselves to release cha-ching books on Biden's obvious cognitive decline and how it rendered him ineffective in the White House. And they're only releasing this now to try to court sympathy as a distraction from the scandal. They are demanding the grace that they denied the family of that truck driver. We talked about this yesterday, right?
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I think so.
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The Curtis Dunn? Yeah. In case you guys didn't know real quick, Joe Biden's first wife, Nelia, and their 13 month old daughter, Naomi, were in a vehicle. She reportedly ran a stop sign and ran right into a semi that was driven by a guy named Curtis Dunn. And the police on the scene, they ascertained that it was not his fault. Curtis Dunn was not charged because he didn't do anything wrong. He was driving a truck. He was at work. He was doing his job. And but after for 40 years, Joe Biden suggested that the guy was a drunk. He would. Well, he actually said it. He said that Curtis Dunn, quote, drank his lunch and that that basically was why his wife and daughter were killed, like because he was a drunk driver. I think the family, honestly, they didn't pursue it. But I really do think that the Dunn family had a had a case of slander with a slander and libel case. And she had reportedly ran that stop sign. The truck driver, he couldn't avoid the crash. And so, yeah, he said he drank his lunch, blamed him for causing the crash, which was entirely unsupported by both the police reports and later the responders to the scene publicly responded to it as well. And they were saying that it was not Curtis Dunn's fault. And that because the family this was in 1972, just like a week before Christmas, the family was just trying to get Joe Biden to stop smearing them. And they said it was a tragic accident. But no, there was nobody. There was no alcohol involved. And the judge who investigated the crash, Judge Jerome Hurley, said that there was absolutely no indication that the truck driver had been drinking. And that's a direct quote from a CBS piece at the time. And the it wasn't until last fall after Dunn had passed away that Biden only then said, said through a spokesperson that he fully accepts the Dunn family's word that those rumors were false. The rumors that Joe Biden started. What a coward. Oh, this the senator fully the senator at the time. Oh, he fully accepts that Dunn's the Dunn's family were that the rumors were false. There were rumors that he started. That's just so shameful that he went out and was attacking and smearing this family for forever. Now, the family had asked for an apology and a retraction, and they never got it. You know, the daughter was like, please stop. Please stop. I mean, they've been doing this for years. They've been trying to get him to stop this for years. Back in 2008, when he was a vice presidential candidate. They were saying, please stop smearing it. It said, so Dunn passed away in 1999, but the family was fed up with Biden constantly lying about him as being drunk when the accident occurred. And the police dispute that, the police reports, the judge, everybody investigating the accident, they all disputed it. And police confirmed that his wife, his late wife, was the one who ran into him. She just drove right into the tractor trailer. He overturned his rig trying to avoid hitting her. Curtis Dunn overturned his rig and then he jumped out and ran to the wrecked car and he was the first person to render assistance. And There was a in 2001, Biden told everybody that he lost his wife because of a drunk driver. He said it again in 07. He said it again in 08. He said it again in 09. He said it again in an interview with Katie Couric. And it wasn't until Inside Edition in this was 2008. that they reached out to the Dunn family for an interview that they realized that Biden was actually going out there lying about the family on the campaign trail everywhere the entire time. And yeah, they said, this is what Biden said, quote, a tractor trailer guy who allegedly, but I never pursued it, drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife and killed my daughter and hospitalized my sons. That was his direct quote. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 20 :
So a 75-year-old man was arrested after they found nearly a million dollars of cocaine hidden in his vehicle seats, which goes right into Kane's theory that old people are not innocent, man. Del Rio, Texas, they seized more than almost almost a million, nine hundred thirty thousand of just in cocaine at the Del Rio point of entry in the guy's seat. He was driving a Chevy Captiva. They did a secondary inspection and that's when they found it. And I just don't know how he thought he could just drive that on through. You know, how do you think that's in the seats of all things? I mean, they're going to find it. A lawsuit filed in Missoula over toxin toxic metals found in aerial fire retardant. That Forest Service employees are suing because of the long association with the wildland firefighting. That's the stuff that they spray when they fly over to help stop the fire. It's like bright red. You see it dumped from these big giant air tankers. It contains all these chemicals, chromium, cadmium, all this stuff. And they said that it is toxic. And so they're I mean, I didn't think it was like, you know, Gatorade that they were dropping. You know, I mean, it was, you know, something. Let's see. New Jersey firefighters rescue baby turkeys trapped in a storm drain. They're going to taste delicious on Thanksgiving. Let's see. They found, no, I'm kidding. Let them have a little happy turkey lives before they become, you know, a little happy turkey lives before they become meals. And we haven't seen any human bird flu cases in months. Maybe because it was all hyped up. We've got Chip Roy joining us next. We've got some developments in this budget battle.
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SPEAKER 20 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour here, and we've been covering quite a lot, including this battle over this. They call it the big, beautiful bill. I say it's a turd sandwich. You know, it is what it is. There's some bad stuff in here. We've been talking about it. What's the latest? Joining us right now, one of our favorite people in Congress, and we can say that about maybe three, Congressman Chip Roy from the great Republic of Texas in front of his awesome artwork. As always, this is our favorite background for him. So, Congressman, it's so good to see you. I know that you guys, y'all are really rhetorically speaking under the gun here with all this. The way that I understand it, we're funding the Green News scam. Right. We don't really have tax cuts. It's all a shell game where we got some of these moderates that are fighting to keep us subsidizing the blue states because they choose to tax their people higher and they want us to offset those deductions federally. I mean, what am I missing? There's I'm give me at least one good thing. One thing I can be happy about in this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, no, let's dissect this a little bit. And great to be on the show as always. There are a decent number of very good things in the bill. Let's be clear. We've got half of the green news scam, I think, legitimately after the concession.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's still bad.
SPEAKER 12 :
After the concessions we got this weekend, we do believe we will squeeze out most future projects and really stop a lot of the ones in process. The problem is existing online infrastructure just continues to get subsidized. I disagree with that. So that's a big problem. But there's a lot of good things. I mean, constraining that other stuff is good. That's still like $500 billion, $600 billion worth of constraint. Then we've got some pretty good stuff with respect to restricting Medicaid and putting work requirements in place. After our work this weekend, we've tightened that down. We believe they'll be much sooner. We believe they'll be much tighter. And we're still working through nailing that down. There are other things, eligibility on Medicaid. There's some significant reductions. And it was all been working with the White House in good faith to deliver that. And I think that's good. There are good tax cuts in place, the expensing and extension of other things on marginal rates that will affect a lot of your listeners. But there's also a lot of giveaways, a lot of the expanded child tax credits. There's a lot of things in there that aren't particularly high economic growth issues. Medicaid expansion, we're not dealing with that properly. We're not dealing with the fraud of the 90%, seven times payment for the able-bodied over the vulnerable. And we're not doing enough to offset states like Texas, who didn't expand and try to keep the pressure off their expansion. So this is the rub. We're trying to manage through it. We want to deliver a product. But frankly, it just needs to be better, in my opinion, in order to get it done. So we're still working today. We'll see what happens in the next 24 hours.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, I know that you all were trying to get this done by Memorial Day. Is that still on track to happen?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I think you still have several pockets of the Republican conference who remain concerned. I think you've got those of us who want to keep tightening down to make it better. and to try to get more savings, legitimate savings, and reduced deficits. Again, in this bill, under the most favorable analysis possible, about $1.5 trillion of additional deficits in the first four years, then all the savings are in the out years. It is, in fact, deficit reducing over 10 years. But they're all in the out years, the savings. I always think that's a problem. I think it should be flatter. So we've got issues with it. We think we ought to do more. The salt guys, the guys from New York predominantly who want to see the cap lifted on their state and local taxes so they can deduct their high tax jurisdiction states. And by the way, we should look in the mirror, Texas. Our property taxes are too damn high. And so, you know, I've got Texans who are like, are you sure? You don't want to lift that cap. And I'm like, yeah, I'm sure. Go talk to the legislature in Austin. We need to cut taxes. But my New York friends want to lift that cap. They're still mad about the bill and they feel like they need changes. So it is unclear what will happen in the next 24 hours. I want Medicaid reform fixes. I want to save our country with health care freedom. I want to stop the Inflation Reduction Act subsidies that are killing our grid from being stable. And I want to make sure that we get deficits that aren't all backloaded, you know, deficit reductions that aren't backloaded.
SPEAKER 20 :
Right. For those joining, we're talking with Congressman Chip Roy out of Texas. The way that I understood it, Social Security in an earlier draft was still being taxed. And I was told that, oh, well, there are deductions, which is not the same thing as not taxing Social Security. I mean, like a $400 deduction. Come on. But what is the latest? Is that still in this latest version that you all are fighting over?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, the provision of no tax on Social Security is not in the bill. It is solely a deduction tweak, as you point out. I think the reason for that is that if that were to be implemented, it would cost something in the order of one to one and a half trillion dollars over ten years. if you just stopped having tax on Social Security. We could do that, but we'd have to do a lot of other adjustments. For example, perform Medicaid, do the other things that you want to do to try to get savings. But you'd also have to touch some other aspects of Social Security, which we can't really do in a reconciliation package. So because by law, we're not allowed to touch the corpus, the structure of Social Security. So there's a lot of things we could do, but that one's not in there.
SPEAKER 20 :
So let me clarify for the people watching, because I hear this all the time from people in the audience. You really there is a legal framework that prevents you from doing what you really want to do in terms of eliminating those taxes on that on Social Security specifically.
SPEAKER 12 :
So I don't want to speak 100 percent to what we could or couldn't do with that tax, because I personally haven't taken that to parliamentarian. But I will tell you, in general, we are prohibited under the Budget Control Act, which is what controls the reconciliation process, from touching Social Security. You can still do it on the margins, but I would defer to the experts on what you can or can't do here. But what I'll tell you is the bill does not include that. And that is both because it's really expensive and because it is mechanically hard to do. That's the one thing they did in the Budget Control Act. It was a compromise, right? For them to say, you're not touching Social Security in this deal. So, look, there are other things on the tax front, right? There's the, for example, there's the expanded child tax credit. That goes up over the first four or five years of the bill. There's the no tax on tips. That's for the first four or five years of the bill. Then there's the no tax on auto loans. That's the first four or five years of the bill. And there are several others that then create a cliff, meaning we have tax cuts that expire in five years and then they'll be asked to extend an initial five years. You know, when we get out, then when they expire, what does that really mean? That the true cost of the policies in the bill is actually bigger, right? We just make you do them on a shorter basis. You save money by keeping them on a shorter timeline.
SPEAKER 20 :
Right. From what I was reading also, the SALT caucus, they're saying they're not going to support this bill at all. They're not going to vote for it specifically on those deductions that you mentioned. Is that are they just digging in? Is that just one? Is that a fight that's going to get lost?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that's what they say. And I'll let them answer that. I'm not going to speak for them. I met with a few of them, friends of mine, you know, that on different issues, we're happy to work together. And they've got their views on this. And look, I mean, I respect it. I mean, they got to come in and fight what they want to fight for. But I just want people to respect that I think I need to fight for Texas and ensure that because we're a non-expansion state, that we're able to hold the line continuing to be a non-expansion state without getting screwed by having all of these massive subsidies going to other states because they expanded and we didn't. I think that's a problem. And I think we ought to be doing something about that.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's I'm so glad to hear you say that, because I feel like a lot of people, you know, we got listeners in some of these blue states and I get it. They want to have that incorporated in this bill. But it's like you all need it. We've been doing the right thing as best as we can in these states where we've held our legislatures accountable. I mean, maybe not so much in Austin. But in these other states where we've been able to control this and not expand some of these other provisions or these other programs, why we don't need to subsidize that. You guys need to do the same thing with your legislatures. One other quick question on one of the things that's included. Is it are we still funding Planned Parenthood to the tune of half a billion dollars in this bill? Because I know that was a fight earlier.
SPEAKER 12 :
So there are specific provisions in the bill that restrict funding to Planned Parenthood that are good. They are wins and credit to those who fought for them. The way you back into the fact that we think funding gets to Planned Parenthood, there are multiple paths, one of which is, for example, all of the Medicaid dollars that flow via the money laundering scam effectively by California in particular, They put all that money in their general coffers, and then they're able to use it for their purposes and to provide Planned Parenthood services through Medicaid dollars. So there are still federal dollars that end up flowing because of the largesse of the federal government to Planned Parenthood. But credit to the Speaker and others, they did put prohibitions on dollars flowing to Planned Parenthood, so fewer dollars would flow. I mean, look, this is the conundrum for someone like me. There are tax cuts that will be extended that should be. There are spending cuts that would be in this bill that would be much better. There are reductions to the Inflation Reduction Act subsidies, which would be much better for stopping the wind and solar and garbage going to China. There are other provisions like Planned Parenthood. But on the other hand, we're not addressing the Medicaid scam. We're not fully cutting off the Inflation Reduction Act. We're not getting, I think, as many tax cuts that are pro-growth as I would prefer. And we're not getting as much spending restraint that's legit that I think we should because it's all backloaded. And frankly, we should do more. So you tell me I'm undecided trying to work through this while we try to get the reforms we need over the next 24 hours.
SPEAKER 20 :
And we got the Green New Deal, which I know you mentioned as well. Not all of it. I think it was what, $1.2 trillion total, but it's anywhere between $700 to $900 billion that's still funding that still might wind up in this bill.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's roughly, I mean, I would put it this way. There's about a trillion-ish dollars that we score in the Green News scam as we have it. It could be more, but in terms of how we score it, it's about a trillion. We think we stop about $550 billion of the future subsidies in the bill and leave about $450 billion still going. That's a little bit kind of finger in the air, but based on our observations, that should be about right. I don't think that's good enough. I mean, I wanted to get that more to 80 or 90 percent removed. I get there are some projects that are well underway. I get that there are certain political calculations in corn states, but I think we should get that way, way more narrowed. And we're going to continue to subsidize people, including people in Texas who took the easy road to go take free subsidies. So they look, Dana, I want to blow your mind. $3 billion a year flows from federal borrowings into the pockets of corporations in Texas for ongoing wind and solar that are connected to the grid. They just get your borrowed money and tax dollars, get given to those companies in Texas for the wind and solar electricity they're putting on our grid. That, by the way, makes it impossible to go put natural gas and nuclear-fired plants online because you're disadvantaged because these guys are subsidies, so their electricity is cheaper. It's crazy.
SPEAKER 20 :
That sounds like Solyndra. Except they're probably working a little bit more profitable. But it sounds a lot like Solyndra. Oh, my. We're talking with Congressman Chip Roy. And I know this is this is like the battle because we hear, oh, well, if we don't get this bill passed, taxes are going to go up. It's going to be rough either way, because I know that people are terrified of austerity. You know, we talked a couple of weeks ago. We went through the whole thing with Greece. And when Greece had to implement austerity reforms and what happened and what the EU was asking, I'm like, we're like on the edge of a cliff here. What if this doesn't pass the negative? Because I know that regardless, the GOP is going to get skewered in the press. But what is the reality if it fails?
SPEAKER 12 :
Look, I don't believe in putting so much stock in what we do or don't do. The debt ceiling will get dealt with. It'll either get raised or we could prioritize our payments. We're going to make our payments to our debt. I think there's a lot of panic button politics that cause a lot of the problems in this town. And we're dealing with that right now. We're going to the rules committee at 1 a.m. why so they can jam this through tomorrow if they can i don't agree with that process and so uh look what do i think would happen i think we would get back to the table and keep working and figure out what we would do maybe you'd move a smaller bill to do the debt ceiling and to deal with the border and the defense um but look right now we're still working on the big beautiful bill we want to support the president there's a lot of good things in it there's a lot of things in it that fall short we'll see what happens i'm not one that panics though if congress doesn't right act a certain day usually when congress acts you should be more afraid than happy that's true and that's regardless of who's in charge so um we're trying to make things better there's a lot of teamwork going on uh that is good even amongst the varying ideologies in the conference um but but look i just i didn't come here to rubber stamp the same broken damn system that that i came here to fix so i'm trying to decide how much the change we're getting is worth it there is some legitimate change And some people say, Chip, just don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I mean, I get that argument. But the flip side is if I'm rubber stamping the continued socialization of health care, if I'm rubber stamping the sort of 50 percent subsidy of the crap that I didn't think should have existed in the first place, if I'm rubber stamping more deficit spending in the next four or five years in the hopes that either tariffs or out your savings will balance the budget, I don't think I'm doing my job. So I got to weigh all that.
SPEAKER 20 :
I have one last quick question for you of under 60 seconds left here. What's the one thing that if included would convince you to vote for it?
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I think either or both the cutting down on the continued subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act, which I feel strongly about, or something with respect to the FMAP and or provider taxes to constrain what's happening with the Medicaid scam. Those are the two things that are my biggest hangups. I think if you add those in it, I can swallow some things I don't like, but we would have made some transformative changes. I think we've made some good changes. I don't think they're transformative yet, and I think we need transformative changes.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's key. Congressman Chip Roy, we appreciate your time. I know you all are burning the midnight oil over there, getting all this done. Thank you so much for being a fiscal hawk on this and holding the line. God bless you. We'll be praying for you. No, it's not fine. Good to see you.
SPEAKER 12 :
God bless you, Christian.
SPEAKER 20 :
Of course, you as well. Thank you.
SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
Welcome back to the program. I'm going to have a thing up here shortly. Got a lot I got to get out. Substack, just following the latest with a bill. I may put it up in the notes section of Substack. If you're a subscriber, you're going to know what that means because there's probably going to be a lot of, you know, additions and additions. It's kind of easier, I think, to follow along there instead of in a post that will go out as your newsletter. But kind of follow this stuff. But we'll also have clips of what Congressman Chip Roy said, because that's all incredibly important, especially as it pertains to the Social Security. I mean, the deduction, that's a shell game. And you're still getting taxed on that. That's a promise that's not delivered. And the tax relief, in my estimation, is not that great. I don't think it's that great. Any tax relief is great, believe me, because what I pay in tax, you guys would have a stroke and die over. Believe me, I do. And then I have to be resuscitated. So, you know, we get it. It's I and I think the point about property taxes, too. I'm not demanding that other people offset what I pay with deductions here. So why the hell should we have to do that for people who choose to live in New York? You know, I mean, no offense. And I know that they're fighting with their legislature about it as well. But come on. All right. Today in stupidity came. All right.
SPEAKER 16 :
You had mentioned a shell game, and I was going to play James Comey's shells. Oh, my gosh. Instead, we'll do Rep McIver, who's on video, of course, assaulting law enforcement officers.
SPEAKER 20 :
Oh, is that all?
SPEAKER 16 :
This is her. Let's see if she's got any regrets. Let's hear it. Let's listen to this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Would you have done anything differently?
SPEAKER 27 :
No, I would not have. Once again, we showed up there.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, so she's all for the assaulting of law enforcement. And the left is going to make you believe that it's Trump targeting his political opponents. It's just so stupid. It's almost funny.
SPEAKER 20 :
I mean, I was told that was an insurrection. Those were the words that were used. And I believe that that's an insurrection, right? You all agree with me? I'm saying. All right, folks, find us at YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Substack, chapter and verse. You can go and sign up over there as well. I will be back with you tomorrow.
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Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now. We're on the verge of making history here, and everybody feels it. In that room today with President Trump, it was filled with standing ovations and high energy and high excitement because everybody senses what's happening here. It was a great esprit de corps, and we're blessed to serve under and with a president who understands the necessity of these relationships and is willing to roll his sleeves up and come stand in the trenches to be a part of this excitement of what's happening.
SPEAKER 14 :
I was on speaker Mike Johnson earlier today after President Trump made a trip to Capitol Hill this morning to meet with Republicans and rally support for his one big beautiful bill. Did it work? We'll find out. Welcome to this May 20th edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Well, following the president's visit to the Hill, there still does not appear to be the votes to pass the measure. House Freedom Caucus Chairman Andy Harris told the Wall Street Journal that the president still had not won over enough supporters for the current legislation. He said, quote, we can get there, but maybe not by tomorrow, end quote. We'll talk about it with Georgia Congressman Andrew Clyde, a member of the House Freedom Caucus. Meanwhile, President Trump held a two-hour call yesterday with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think something's going to happen. It's a very – got big egos involved, I tell you. Big egos involved. But I think something's going to happen. And if it doesn't, I'd just back away and they're going to have to keep going.
SPEAKER 14 :
The president did describe the conversation as productive, but Vladimir Putin was more reserved, stating only that Russia is, quote, ready to begin work on a memorandum toward a potential future peace treaty, end quote. Is Putin stalling while pursuing further territorial gains? North Carolina Congressman Greg Murphy joins us to assess the implications. And on the spiritual front, could June 8th be the largest one-day baptism event in history? Pastor Mark Franci of Oceans Church in California believes it could be, and he's praying and working to make it happen. He joins us later with the exciting details. Also tomorrow, Family Research Council releases a new and timely resource, Embracing God's Design, Addressing the Spiritual and Psychological Crisis Behind Transgender Identity, co-authored by Dr. Jennifer Bowens, FRC's Director for the Center for Family Studies, and FRC Senior Fellow, Walt Heyer. Now this book will be a vital tool for parents, pastors, and policy makers alike. You won't want to miss my conversation later with Walt and Jennifer. All of that is ahead on this Tuesday edition of Washington Watch. But before we dive in, mark your calendars. Better yet, text me. Text Matthew to 67742 and join FRC's 21-day Family Bible Challenge through the Gospel of Matthew, kicking off June the 11th. For several years now, I've led families through the Bible every two years, and the impact has been powerful. I've received letters, emails, and calls from people age 90 to 90. sharing how God's Word has transformed their lives, their marriages, and their families. So why not start with just one book? Take the challenge. Read the Gospel of Matthew together as a family for 21 days. And pastors, you can invite your church to join you. Start the summer with Scripture. Text MATTHEW to 67742 to get all the information. That's MATTHEW to 67742. Well, as I mentioned, President Trump went to Capitol Hill this morning to rally Republicans behind the current version of his big, beautiful bill. He addressed some of the issues that conservatives are raising with the measure, namely the failure to aggressively pursue spending reductions being pushed by pushing the cost savings into the second half of the 10-year window that history tells us are unlikely to be realized. Is behind-the-scenes progress being made? Well, here to discuss this by phone, stepping off the House floor, Congressman Andrew Clyde, who serves on two House committees, including the Budget Committee. He represents the 9th Congressional District of Georgia, and he's also a member of the House Freedom Caucus. Congressman Clyde, thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 12 :
Tony, it's great to be with you on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Your thoughts on the president's appearance at the House GOP conference meeting this morning?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I'll tell you what, it was a great event. He had a great speech. He had one written, and he basically set it to the side and said, I'm just going to talk to you from the heart. And that's exactly what he did. And literally for over an hour, he spoke to us. And we talked about, or he talked about many of the issues. You know, he talked about salt. He talked about... Medicaid and Medicare and Social Security and how we are going to strengthen those issues, those programs, but we're going to deal with the waste, fraud, and abuse in those programs. And I couldn't agree with them more on that. We just have to get this big, beautiful bill to a point where it actually does that. It deals with the waste, fraud, and abuse in Medicaid. And also we need to deal with the Green New Deal subsidies. The president has said many times he wants to completely eliminate those subsidies. And this bill goes about halfway, but it needs to go farther to do that. And so we're working on that, too. We still have time. But those are two really important issues there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Let's talk about that, Andrew, because the way the budgeting works is you have a 10-year window. So all your costs and reductions have to appear in the window to balance that budget. But as I understand it, the concern has been with conservatives, and by the way, I'm in agreement, that these, like the reductions in Medicare, the work requirements, that those are pushed past the first window kind of into the second part of this 10-year window. Has that been corrected?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, that has not been corrected, and that's one of the issues that we have, is that you have an increase in the deficit, you know, by $300 billion and $400 billion a year up through year four, year five, actually, where the first year there's a little bit of deficit reduction, and then year two, three, four, and five, you have significant deficit increase up to about $1.3 trillion a And then after that, your 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, you have a decrease. So there's overall roughly, you know, just a little bit better than balance. But all that savings, all those cost reductions, those spending cuts come in the last five years, which typically never happens. And that's the problem right there.
SPEAKER 14 :
So let me let you explain that a little bit. But the work requirements are what we're talking about with Medicaid. That means if you're able bodied, you know, you're sitting at home on the couch watching TV as opposed to working and you're just getting Medicaid. That's what we're talking about here in terms of reduction. Why are we going to wait five years to start that? Why not start it now?
SPEAKER 12 :
That's a great question. And that's one of the things that we brought up and said, hey. Why aren't we starting this? Why are we starting this, you know, in 2029? We should be starting this as soon as possible. You know, yes, granted, it takes a bit of time to write the regulations for it. It takes a little bit of time for the states to approve it because it's a state-run program. But this should be implemented no later than 2026, all right, not 2029. And so there's an issue there that we need to negotiate through. Work requirements is very important because able-bodied adults do not need to be on Medicaid. They can be working, and they should be working, and that's the point right there.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. The next item you brought up, a similar situation. It's the green new scam. This was all the green energy stuff that was put in the Inflation Reduction Act. And this, too, is not being curtailed until the kind of the tail end of this 10 year window. Why don't we why aren't we more aggressive with that?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, again, that's something that we've been working on to move up. the cutoff dates for these green new deal subsidies or green new scam subsidies, if we can accomplish that and move up the cutoff dates, and then for those energy products or projects, rather, that have this 10-year window of subsidies attached to them, we need to reduce those subsidies, even if we have to do like a step down of 10% per year. You know, that needs to happen. There's no way that our hard-earned tax dollars should be going to subsidize, you know, wind and solar, which is unreliable, and it makes our grid unreliable when we have wind and solar being, you know, the two types of energy production that are the most type that are going into our grid right now, you know, the most type that are being currently built. And it's not natural gas and it's not coal. It's unreliable wind and solar.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and also it's being subsidized. I mean, if there's money to be made in that industry, the industry will be it'll drive itself. I mean, that's kind of a free market principle that we keep forgetting. Two feet. That's what should happen. Right. All right. So tell me, how are the negotiations going on behind the scenes? I mean, the conservatives have been pretty forthright about this all along. You, I think, in the committee, there were about four or five Republicans that voted present but didn't vote for this to allow it to go to the next step, but to allow conversations to continue. Are those conversations continuing and are they leading to anything?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, there were four of us that voted present to allow the bill to move forward. All right. And I was one of those four that voted present. You know, it was just the negotiations that happened over the weekend. I was here Friday, Saturday and Sunday working into the night with the leadership and with the White House. And we made a little bit of progress there. But I think we need a little more time to make more progress because this bill, as it sits right now, does not do what the president's agenda needs. is actually what the president has told the American people that he wants to do, especially when it comes to the spending cut side of it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I think you're right to hold the line on that and do actually make sure this bill does what people say it's going to do. Next step is the rules committee tomorrow. Is this going to make it through the rules committee as it is?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the manager's amendment is the next step. We have not seen the manager's amendment. My guess is it probably will make it through the rules committee. You know, that is the committee for the speaker, really. That's his committee. So it will probably make it through the rules committee. But I don't know if it's going to make it on the rule on the floor. You know, if the rule on the floor goes down, the bill's not dead. You know, it just means that it needs to go back to rules to have a little more negotiating time. That's all that means. And, you know, so I firmly believe that we will get this bill across the floor, but I think it just may take a little more time.
SPEAKER 14 :
Meaning a little more time. What do you mean by that? How long?
SPEAKER 12 :
A little more to negotiate. A little more time to negotiate to get the conservative policy and the fiscal policy that is so important in this bill.
SPEAKER 14 :
So do you think you'll be working through the weekend?
SPEAKER 12 :
Um... It could be. Very well could be. That depends on leadership and on the White House.
SPEAKER 14 :
So let's talk about, we just have about a minute and a half left here. Let's talk about the moderates who are demanding. You mentioned SALT. This is the state and local tax, which basically is a subsidy of blue states. Where does that stand in the mix?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, the president was pretty forceful this morning and he said no more SALT. He said, you know, that SALT, by california and illinois and new york is so unfair to the rest of the country and he's right 100 right yeah um you know the the the folks from those states are simply trying to use their leverage to uh to get more deductions for state and local tax um but the president i think laid the hammer down pretty hard this morning so we'll see what uh you know what kind of reaction they have on it do you think they got the message i think they got the message but um but Whether it does any good or not, I can't tell you that.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Congressman Andrew Clyde, always great to talk with you. Thanks so much for giving us the latest there from the House floor.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you very much, Tony. Great to be with you on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Congressman Andrew Clyde of Georgia. So there's still time to weigh in on this because there's still a lot of give and take. I would encourage you to text Congress to 67742 and you can weigh in. We'll give you a link and you can go directly to your member of Congress. We want to make sure Planned Parenthood, the defunding stays in and also the funding of transgenderism. That needs to be out. All right. We're back after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us on this Tuesday. And hey, let me remind you, join us for FRC's 21-day Family Bible Challenge through the book of Matthew. To join us, simply text the word Matthew to 67742. Lots of resources for the entire family. Text Matthew to 67742. President Trump on Monday said his two-hour phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin went very well, saying that both Russia and Ukraine will immediately start negotiations on ending the war. He informed Ukrainian President Zelensky and other European allies of this immediately after the talk with Putin. But Putin's messaging seemed to conflict with that a bit, saying that, well, he will – They said they're ready to work on a memorandum, meaning we'll start working on talking about stuff. Doesn't seem that Putin's too eager to end this war. Joining me now to discuss this, Congressman Greg Murphy, who serves as a member of the House Ways and Means Committee. He represents the 3rd Congressional District of North Carolina. Dr. Murphy, welcome back to Washington Watch. I know you're on the House floor. Thanks for stepping off to talk to us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. Good afternoon, Tony.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what do you make of President Trump's announcement? How optimistic are you that peace between Russia and Ukraine is imminent and obtainable?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think it's obtainable. Tony, whether it's imminent or not remains to be seen. You're dealing with a bloodthirsty despot who really feels no remorse in sending his countrymen into a sawmill to kill them for what gain is beyond me. But also on the other side, you have a leader of a country formerly really corrupt, hopefully really has turned the corner that doesn't want to see his country dismantled by a foreign invader. I think Zelensky is a lot more amenable to trying to get the war done, or with the war finished, than Putin has you know, has reasons to want to end the war. There's really no reason for Putin to want to end the war. He's isolated his economy enough, and sadly enough, I don't think he values human life whatsoever.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, President Zelensky says Putin is only trying to buy time with these negotiations to continue the war in Ukraine. I tend to agree with that. And I think, I mean, my take, Putin really kind of gets a bounce by having a conversation with President Trump. I mean, I think that raises his stature as he's been a kind of a pariah out there.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it does, because, you know, look— Some people don't like Trump, but my gosh, he's on top of the world right now. He's just in Saudi Arabia. He got trillions of dollars in a trade deal with them. The world understands strength, you know, in contrast to the absolute just failure of the last administration. So him having any relation whatsoever with President Trump sure does elevate his status compared to anything with Biden.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Well, we also have to, I mean, history matters when we look at these things. Putin is trying to rebuild the Russian empire like Stalin did in post-World War II Russia. I mean, they are looking at this as an opportunity in their future. They're looking at it much differently than we are. They have a different system. And oftentimes our foreign policy seems to miss that.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. You know, they're much more of a dictatorship, monolithic czarist, if you will, society, in that one person has central control and Mother Russia should dominate. But, you know, that's not the worldview. That's not what happened. That's not why the United States is the leader of the free world. We have other countries, such as China, that there's really essentially a single leader, although there's a, quote, party that leads the country. This is not what democracy is all about. And sadly enough, I think the average Russian doesn't know the difference and just suffers every day in a very miserable, dreary life. But that's okay with Putin. He really doesn't care. This is a personal thing with him. It's about glory and trying to, as you point out, trying to get Russia back to the status of the great Lenin and Stalin.
SPEAKER 14 :
One of the very practical things we could do on a domestic front that will have implications here, and it's being done, and I'd like to get an update from you on where it stands, is reviving our own energy production. Because as we go back to being an exporter of energy, we're going to drive down Russia's revenue stream that they're getting through selling their oil.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. And if you look at what, Tony, the one... issue, the one article, the one program that controls pretty much everything. It's energy these days. How can you run your mills? How can you go out and put your crops in the field? How can you harvest them? How can you make anything? How can you get from A to B? It's all about energy. And with the Biden administration, they just wanted to float these insane ideas and destroy American energy dominance. Look at Biden, even though he didn't remember it, wanted to just destroy American liquid natural gas, giving it all to Russia to let them become preeminent. But, you know, finally, it's great to have President Trump back on top, really reasserting American dominance for this. And by definition, when we do this, we weaken some of the other countries. And fortunately, Russia is one of them.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Not to get too deeply into this, but I was just talking with one of your colleagues, Andrew Clyde, about the Green New Deal that's in the reconciliation to pull out that subsidies for these green energy projects, which runs counter to becoming a energy excess producer where we're actually exporting, which we were doing at the end of the last Trump administration.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, one thing, Tony, I think you have to be a little careful at this. I'm a huge fan of nuclear. That is the future of this country. And if we pull the rug out under helping nuclear get started, we cut our throats to do this. We cut our nose to spite our face. So I think I'm a little bit more, I want to put a little more scrutiny in this. than really just flashing, flashing, flashing.
SPEAKER 14 :
How much funding is in for nuclear in the New Deal, in the Green Deal?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Tony, I can't give you an exact number. The runway that we've allowed is through 3031. But it takes a decade for nuclear to do these things. It doesn't take as long for solar or anything else like that. So we have to actually be a little bit judicious in what we're doing. You know, I think a few people have decided they just want to be naysayers and pick little pieces out of the BBB, as it were. But we've got to be smart. We actually have to use our brains when doing this.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't disagree with nuclear. I think the wind and solar that's having to be subsidized to get people into that industry, I think, is proven to be kind of a loser. Not that I'm against some of it, but I just think we know what works and what we need right now is energy production. Right. Dr. Murphy, out of time. Thanks for stepping off the floor to to talk with us. And always good to talk with you.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Thank you, Tony. God bless.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Dr. Greg Murphy of North Carolina. Do agree. Nuclear. I'm not sure there's a whole lot in that new green deal that relates to that. All right, folks, don't go away. We're back with more after this.
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All right, welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us on this Tuesday. All right, a movement in California that led to over 7,000 baptisms in a single day, actually 7,750 in a single day earlier this year, is expanding. On June the 8th, churches across the country will perform synchronized water baptisms as a part of a nationwide effort known as Baptize America. So how can your church get involved and what could the impact be? Here to discuss the movement, Pastor Mark Franci of Oceans Church in California, who is the driving force behind Baptize America. Pastor Franci, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's an honor to be with you today, Tony. Thanks for having me on.
SPEAKER 14 :
So let's talk first about what is Baptize America. Where did this come from?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, probably like a lot of cool things on the earth, it came from a prayer time, just hearing the inner little whisper of the Holy Spirit, asking me three years ago to start something in Southern California to unite the church around something that interdenominationally we all agree on, which is water baptism. And I heard that inner whisper say, I want you to organize it. I want you to help pay for it, to get it started. And I don't want you to put your name or your church's name on any of it. And so two years ago on Pentecost Sunday, we launched Baptize Southern California at the historic Pirate's Cove in beautiful Orange County, California. We had about 170, 80 churches show up, work together, different denominations coming together. We baptized 4,166 people in one day. In the following year, we knew we couldn't go back to Pirates Cove. We kind of outgrew it. So last year on Pentecost Sunday, we went to Huntington Beach and we saw 6,000 and some change get baptized at Huntington Beach. And we actually united the church of California. We had over 300 locations in the entire state that were hosting in local churches. And those 300 locations in every single county of California changed. hosted and baptized 6,000 in those churches. So we saw, last year, 12,000, 6,000 in one location, and another 6,300 local churches. And we felt like the Lord told us if He could do it in Southern California, He could do it in all of California. And if this could happen in California, it could happen in America. So this year, Pentecost Sunday, June 8th, we will be launching in every single state. Thousands of churches will be working together to fulfill the Matthew 28 commission to go into all the world, making disciples, baptizing them. And we believe if God could do it in America, it'll go to the ends of the earth.
SPEAKER 14 :
Before I ask you about how folks can get involved in here, I want to take this for granted. To baptize, it also requires a profession of faith. So these are people that have made professions of faith in Jesus Christ and then are being baptized on this Sunday.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. That is kind of the precursor, obviously, is whether they're showing up to a live event like we've hosted. We've always preached the gospel. I mean, a lot of times people know before they sign up on the sign-up form. That's a part of the questionnaire. But we do preach the gospel at every live event we have done. We had over, I think, 1,500 people give their hearts to Jesus at Huntington Beach. A couple weeks ago, we had a We had about 29,000 plus people, they said, show up to Huntington Beach. We baptized the 7,752. But out of that number, about 1,500 gave their life to Jesus live at the event, and God immediately got baptized. And so all of the host locations in these local churches, it's a very low number. expectation as far as it's very easy to be a host church. But one of the three requirements is we want there to be a clear proclamation of what the gospel is with an invitation for people to respond before they go into the waters of baptism.
SPEAKER 14 :
So how can churches find out more about this, Pastor Francine, how they can be a part of it?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, it's great, Tony. If they go to baptize.org or baptizeamerica.com, either way, it'll get you to the same place. We're kind of gearing up. We've already seen other nations respond. They're launching Baptize Canada this year, Baptize Sweden. I have a call with Brazil this week. They're going to be launching Baptize Brazil. So it's already kind of sweeping across the world. But if they want to host in their local church, Go to baptizeamerica.com. It takes about two minutes to fill out the form. And we're seeing literally hundreds of churches signing up every day right now to be a host location. And it's beautiful. Some of the great churches across the spectrum of the body of Christ working together to fulfill the Great Commission.
SPEAKER 14 :
Pastor Francie, if I can, on behalf of my Presbyterian friends, can they sprinkle?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I think if it's something that they're already doing in their local churches, we want to see people work together to fulfill the Great Commission.
SPEAKER 14 :
So what kind of feedback have you gotten from those that have been a part of this in the past that have joined in the effort? I mean, like residual, as it's created something stirring in their church locally.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. That's been the beautiful thing is the last two years, we have really a proven model here that all the churches that really own it, get excited about it, have seen record-breaking baptisms, usually sometimes as much as 100% bigger than any baptisms they've ever done before. And the residual effect of, I mean, several churches here in California grew by 100 to 200 people that showed up to get baptized and got connected to their local church. For us, The win is not a big number to publish. It's lives change that are getting connected to a local church.
SPEAKER 14 :
We just have about 45 seconds left. But my experience, Pastor Francie, at pastoring is a lot of people, they don't follow through with believers baptism. And that's really kind of disobedience. And once we go forward in obedience and following Christ, as you pointed out in Matthew 28, things break free and we begin to see the power of God move.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely. That's it. The win for us is if these people show up to get baptized and get connected to the local church to become disciples. In our estimation, the greatest way to make a disciple is to get them connected to a healthy, vibrant local church.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. Again, give out the website very quickly.
SPEAKER 17 :
BaptizeAmerica.com.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, Pastor Francie, great to see you. And we'll be praying that many are baptized on Pentecost Sunday. All right, folks, stick with us. We have more Washington Watch straight ahead.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us. Would you like an idea of how to make the kickoff to this summer a summer that you'll remember? Well, I challenge you then to take FRC's 21-day Family Bible Challenge through the Gospel of Matthew. It kicks off on June the 11th. You can invite your children, your grandchildren to join you. You can even invite neighbors to join you. And we have the entire reading plan, questions, study guide, family resources, and even activities for children. Simply text Matthew to 67742. That's Matthew to 67742. And make this summer a summer to remember by spending time in the life transformative Word of God. Well, speaking of the Word, our Word for today comes from Zechariah chapter 9, where the Lord gives a prophetic glimpse of the coming Messiah. Quote, Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming to you, righteous and having salvation as He, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, on a foal of a donkey. I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the war horse from Jerusalem. And the battle bow shall be cut off, and he shall speak peace to the nations. His rule shall be from sea to sea, and from the river to the ends of the earth." Now, this passage speaks beautifully to both the first and the second coming of the Messiah. Jesus came the first time in humility riding on a donkey, just as Zechariah foretold. but he will return in power, bringing peace and establishing a global kingdom. Notice the scope of his reign. It will not merely stretch from the river to the sea, but from the river to the ends of the earth. The New Testament records the fulfillment of his first coming exactly as written. giving us full confidence that His second coming will unfold just as promised. The question is, are you ready? To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. Statistically, 1.4% of American teenagers ages 13 to 17 identify now as transgender. Well, that number may be small. We should not underestimate the threat posed by the transgenderism movement that has been used to shift the culture away from biblical truth into a place where truth is prosecuted. And that's why FRC, nearly 10 years ago, seeing this coming threat, our policy team began to work on model legislation to protect children. The Save Adolescents from Experimentation Act, or also known as the SAVE Act. Now, the first state to pass it was Arkansas, followed now by over two dozen states. Almost 26, 27 states have this type of legislation protecting children from irreversible surgeries and experimental drug treatments because of gender dysphoria. But there's more. There's more that needs to be done beyond public policy. The transgender movement preys on impressionable children and convinces the vulnerable that they can't find peace in the identity and the body that God has given to them. This is spiritual as much, if not more, than it is physical and political. Thankfully, there is a new book that's coming out tomorrow that will help bring God's truth to the discussion of the transgender ideology. It's titled Embracing God's Design, Addressing the Spiritual and Psychological, Physiological Crisis Behind Transgender Identity. And joining me now are the book's authors, Dr. Jennifer Bowens and Walt Heyer. Dr. Bowens is the director of the Center for Family Studies here at FRC. She is a research clinician. And Walt is a senior fellow as well here at the Family Research Council and a detransitioner, a term that you might not be familiar with until now. Jennifer and Walt, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
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Yeah, thanks, Tony, for having us.
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All right, Walt, I want to start with you because I want to start with that term that some may not be familiar with because the media doesn't like to talk about it and the fact that it exists. Detransitioning. You lived as a woman for a while and you detransitioned back to your God-given identity.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I did identify as a woman for almost eight years and then got my sanity back and realized that I was living a lie and I needed to re-identify as who I am that you're looking at today. And I realized, Tony, at that time that the hormones and surgery really didn't change my gender. And so that was kind of the revelation and I needed to go to the Lord Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER 14 :
uh to really find my identity and that's what i did and that's where i've been living for the last 35 plus years yeah i want to come back to that in a moment and talk about that but i i want to start first with uh why what inspired the two of you to work with the work together and write this book now jennifer you were a teaching professor you're a clinician You've been now at the Family Research Council for a number of years working on this particular issue. I think God brought you here for this moment in time because this is such a critical issue. But talk a little bit about what inspired you to team up with Walt and write this book.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, so my background is in trauma research and trauma practice. And what we were seeing with the gender dysphoria issue, which we don't even like to use that term because it's really at the heart of the matter is an identity issue. And what we were observing and what Walt's own testimony and experience has been with working with other people is that there are other issues that are really at the core of this gender ideology, the gender dysphoria diagnosis. And that's where my background came to play. And Walt and I had known each other on and off for years. And, you know, it was just kind of like for such a time as this that... We got in touch again and, you know, we realized what we could contribute together with my background and his background, personal experience, that we could really produce a resource for people who want to understand and be equipped to deal with the gender ideology. But also, you know, you quoted a statistic earlier, Tony, about the number of children who are identifying as transgender. What isn't included in that statistic is the fact that we have a whole group of young people who've been exposed to this ideology through school, through social media, et cetera. So just because they're not personally identifying as transgender, doesn't mean that they haven't been infected by the ideology. And we need to know how to speak compassionately about this issue. And we also need to understand what are the real issues. This holds true for policymakers and it holds true for the community at large. We really need to speak in a way that gets to the heart of why someone would be driven to identify as a transgender with a false identity.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's what this book is designed to do is to help not just those that may identify as transgender, but the family, pastors, youth counselors, others to understand the underlying issues. And you mentioned the trauma. In many cases, what we have found is that there is trauma in the background of those who have this gender dysphoria. Oftentimes, it's a defense mechanism, is it not?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, that's right. You know, this issue, this ideology goes hand in glove with those who've experienced trauma. Because very often when someone goes through complex or ongoing trauma, what they want to do is... And it's not necessarily at a conscious level, but they they want to disconnect from that place of being a victim of being harmed or just simply the pain of what they went through. And so very often people will that the term dissociation or disconnection is is commonplace here. So here you have an ideology that says, oh, we can help you disconnect from who you are and from your past, et cetera. So you can see just on the surface how hand in glove this ideology really is with those who've experienced trauma, who are seeking to distance themselves from the pain of what they've been through. And I know Walt has that experience as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
I want to go to you, Walt, because you mentioned this at the open, that it didn't work. This was just kind of like sweeping an underlying issue under the rug, and it didn't work until you came to grips with who you really were. Can you speak to that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you know, in the trauma piece, I was sexually abused and physically abused before I was 10 years old. And, you know, that was in 1940s. So it was a long time ago. So I've been dealing with this on this level. And I know when I opened my website up 20 years ago, I started a website, sexchangeregret.com, and started helping people. because I experienced this thing, the regrettable outcome of doing this, and I wanted to find out how many other people have gone through this. And Tony, in working with these individuals, I can tell you that well over 90% of them When I spend time with them, we can identify a trauma, an event, an issue that happened to them that caused them to not like who they are, just like I did. And once we focus on that trauma, that event, then we actually find out they didn't have gender dysphoria. They just didn't like who they were. They didn't like being the one who was physically abused or was abandoned. Something happened in the child's life. early on is called Adverse Childhood Experiences. And we address this in the book. And what, you know, up to this point, I think everybody's just kind of been using a hammer to deal with this issue. And what Jennifer and I have done is miraculous pairing of us getting together. I've worked with thousands of individuals who've gone through this, and then she has this tremendous background in trauma. Coming together, we actually provide a huge toolbox for everybody who's interested, or working with this issue that they can draw from and actually begin helping people. The book is fantastic, not because I was involved. It wouldn't have been anywhere near what it is without the two of us coming together, bringing my 20 years of experience of working with thousands of people and Jennifer's absolute amazing background in trauma.
SPEAKER 14 :
To be very clear on this, Jennifer, this is not a policy book. This is a book of how to understand and help those that are trapped into this gender ideology. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 21 :
And I would just add to that. I would say, yes, on its face, it's not necessarily a policy book. However, we believe that everything that we have in this book is so essential for policymakers to, one, to be able to speak about the issue in a very thoughtful and meaningful way that's grounded in research. But also, you know, it is very practical. So it has dual purposes in that way. We want to equip believers, conservatives to be able to help someone. But it's very important that people understand the issue from the ins and outs. And there's so many things that that could spin off from this book to become good policy issues, you know, whether it's addressing the mental health system and some of the diagnostic problems that we face from insurance reimbursement. You know, I could go on. There are a number of ways that this could be used as a policy book, but the heart of it is really quite practical and something that anyone can get a hold of. And actually, we hope that... You know, as as you read this book, that it will also impact your life, because as I started with this at the core of what we're talking about is an identity issue. And many of us have those issues that we're working through. And this could be a help in that way.
SPEAKER 14 :
You really can't. effectively address public policy until you have the facts and you know the truth. And that's not been out there. The media has covered it up. Academia has covered it up. The left does not want people to know the underlying issue. And I want to go back to you, Walt, on this. We just have a few minutes left. But you said what set you free was coming to grips with who you are as created by God. And that's the title of the book, Embracing God's Design. You've worked, as you mentioned, thousands of people have come to you looking for help, share their stories. What percentage have found peace and freedom as a result of coming to an understanding of who they were in Christ and coming to know Him as their personal Lord and Savior?
SPEAKER 10 :
Of the people that I've worked with, it's hard to track when you're dealing with thousands of people, but I would say over 50% of them find their way to the Lord Jesus Christ. When they finally understand that hormones and surgery, and this is the critical part of this, Tony, when you realize the truth is, and that's what this is about, the truth, is that hormones and surgery has never changed anybody's biological gender. You're still who you are. You're just identifying as someone who you're not. And so that reality comes to light when you finally come face to face with the Lord Jesus Christ in prayer as it did with me, and you realize that you've been serving the LGBT when you should be serving the Lord Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you're saying the truth will set you free. Absolutely. All right, Jennifer, just two minutes left. Number one, where can people get a copy of the book? And number two, I'm interested, did you discover anything? I mean, you know a lot about this. Walt knows a lot about it. But was there any aha moments as you were doing research for the book?
SPEAKER 21 :
You know, I think one of the things that just talking with each other that we were able to grapple with and come to a place of love about the language that we use and and how often we we want to use. words that aren't reaffirming the very ideology and the language that's used in the ideology. And so I think we really came to a place of saying, you know, we don't want to use some of these terms when we don't have to, because sometimes we have to in policy spaces. But just like the idea of gender dysphoria, We don't really believe in the idea of gender dysphoria. We believe that at its core it's an identity issue and that there are other things that are sort of scaffold around this identity distress. So those were some of the interesting things that are less talked about in our policy discussions or even research discussions that I think there's more to come for that. In terms of the book, you can really you can get it anywhere books are sold. Fidelis is the publisher and they, I believe, even have a coupon code for the month of May till the end of May. I believe it's Fidelis 15. If not, please correct me.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, just go to go to Tony Perkins dot com right now and we'll make sure that you can get a copy of that. Yeah. But I encourage you to pick up a copy. Walt, Jennifer, thanks so much for joining me today. We're out of time, but always great to see you. And folks, I want to encourage you, pick up a copy of the book and share the truth with those around you. Until next time, keep standing.
SPEAKER 24 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
we got breaking news the feds charge new jersey congress member with assault keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome to Sekulow. For today, Will Haynes is joining us. Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem is going to be with us later. And it's time for you to call in as well at 1-800-684-3110. If you're just tuning in, you may have seen the headline. And Will, I think we need to go over this because this is a big moment. And a really interesting one. We know that there was this sort of photo op stunt that occurred. And now it feels like the stunt has even gone a little further.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. So we remember that there was a group of Democrat congressmen and women, as well as the mayor of Newark, New Jersey, who tried to go into this ICE detention facility that is there. And the members of Congress tried to say this is an oversight meeting. However, the AOCs were pushing, saying they better not do anything. If they really were trying to conduct oversight, there's a way to do that. You can make an appointment, go and conduct oversight. They were trying a political stunt. They wanted to... show that they were strong and that they were going to force their way through the gates and get into this facility and find out what's going on there. And there turned out to be sort of a scuffle. The mayor of Newark was originally arrested and charged with trespassing on a federal facility. Those charges have been dropped. But the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey has now charged a New Jersey congresswoman, Representative LaMonica McIver, with assault and also with impeding the job of a federal officer, all stemming from this incident. And this also is in result of they tried to make a plea deal with her. They said, listen, we can just let this go away. We can just say, basically, take responsibility that you can't violate the law, force your way in and put hands on a federal officer.
SPEAKER 08 :
And for a photo op. Right. Take responsibility for the, we know this was a stunt. You know, this was a stunt. Let's just move on with our day. Not saying that's necessarily the right thing to do, by the way, but that's what you're dealing with in New Jersey. However, that is not what happened. She said, no, this is the moment to make a name for yourself.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And she has rejected this plea deal. And she has now been charged by the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey with assault. She assaulted, impeded and interfered with a law enforcement officer in violation of Title 18 U.S. Code Section 111A1. And we'll get into more of what that means in the next segment. But this also pushes back on what Hakeem Jeffries, the leader of the Democrats in the House and AOC were putting out there. They said, if you lay a finger on a member of Congress, that's out of bounds. And Hakeem Jeffries said it was a red line. Now the ball is in their court as one of their own. A member of Congress from the Democrat side has been charged for this photo op.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. I'm going to take your phone calls, by the way, if you want to call in in the next segment. Let's hear from you. What do you think about this? And then we have in the third segment, I want to just tease it out a little bit, a really brand new ACLJ case you're not going to want to miss. This is a classic ACLJ that's happening, stuff that's still happening in our schools. that you think should be settled. Of course, a lot of it is settled law. However, we still have to protect students when they need us and we need to be there for them. And of course, that is because people like you support the ACLJ. All the outrageous attacks that come upon your faith. your religious liberties whether that is in your school system whether that's in this country and of course the very extreme and very uh persecution based uh attacks on christianity that happen outside of america we're there for all of them i encourage you to become an aclj supporter today whether you can give a one-time donation or become a champion that's someone who gives on a monthly recurring basis i'm gonna encourage you to do that whether that's five dollars a month or five hundred dollars a month we could use it we could help All you got to do is scan that QR code you see on the screen right now or go to ACLJ.org. Once again, that's at ACLJ.org. But I do want to take your calls in the next segment. What do you think about this new moment for the New Jersey Congresswoman? Give me a call. 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Secula. We do have some phone lines open for you and I'd like to hear from you within this segment. So if you could give me a call, I'd appreciate it. Because in the next segment, we're going to talk about a new ACLJ story that I think you're not going to want to miss. And if you have been following the work of the ACLJ for the last 35 plus years. And even the pre-ACLJ days, this will be a little bit reminiscent of that. And of course, our team is taking action right now. But this is a little bit of tease we'll talk about in the next segment. Let's go ahead and take a phone call right off the bat, though. Let's go to Peter in Arizona. Peter, you're on the air watching on YouTube. And if you're watching on YouTube, by the way, and you're brand new or you haven't yet, hit that subscribe button. Over 484,000 of you have, and we know we appreciate each and every one of you. Peter, you're on the air. Peter, you there? All right, we'll go back to him in a second. Doesn't sound like the phone line went active, so I just want to take a listen to that. Will, let's restate what happened before we get to one of our phone calls, because I think a lot of people are just joining us right now as we see the newest plea deal rejected by Democrat Congresswoman. The feds charge a New Jersey congressman with assault. What happened here?
SPEAKER 06 :
What led us to this moment? That's right. So if you'll remember, just a brief few days ago, a couple weeks back, these individuals, it was three members of Congress as well as the mayor of Newark, went to this ICE detention facility. And what they were saying was an oversight system. visit they were trying to show up unannounced to oversight congressional oversight of the executive branch at this ice detention facility and the administration obviously said there are ways to do this they are making a show of this they were not letting them in and they there was a scuffle that broke out and this is after they'd been in and out of the gates a couple times but it escalated And there was video of this member of Congress kind of throwing her elbows, putting hands on the law enforcement officers. And the U.S. attorney out of New Jersey, the district of New Jersey, has now charged Representative LaMonica McIver, who is from New Jersey. under Title 18 U.S. Code Section 111A1 because she assaulted, impeded, and interfered with law enforcement in violation of that section of the U.S. Code. they had offered this member of congress a plea deal yeah they saw it as the stunt that we all know that it was and said okay you know say you're sorry essentially and she rejected that because also what you're learning about this is from all these stunts this wasn't a peaceful oversight thing this was political theater much like the time that aoc went down to the border and fake cried it's we've all seen it it's trying to become a household name it's making yourself into a star and uh we'll see if that works out for but you also know that the democrats may be thinking hmm there's some political capital in being charged by the trump doj because we saw what happened to president trump when he was charged by the biden doj state ags bigger than everything He goes on to win in a landslide in November. So you have to think some of that's in the back of the Democrats minds like, oh, maybe I can go, you know, get into some trouble and then not take a plea deal and then get charged with something. But this also has a lot of parallels with what happened with that judge in Wisconsin. Where the judge took the law into her own hands and instead of acting as an arbiter of the law, an impartial judge, she decided to take the law in her own hands and shield an illegal migrant from. from arrest, from ICE. They had a warrant. And what happened? The DOJ charged her. And the Democrats say, you're authoritarian. You're breaking the rule of law. This is a constitutional crisis. No, what they're doing is saying, hey, you can disagree. You can protest. You can try to get legislation through. You can try to do everything within the rule of law. But you can't cause chaos, and you can't set a bad example for those of you that follow you that could do things much, much worse.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, let's take some calls about that. I want to go to George, who's calling in Alaska, who is watching on the Salem News Channel, which we're available live, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. George, you're on the air. Thank you.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hi, guys. Thank you for being there. My primary issue is I don't like the way these politicians are behaving. And for African-Americans that have survived slavery and true racism and all the other problems that we overcame to serve this country, protect this country, I don't like them making us look like we're idiots by defending criminals. MS-13 and these other groups are hardcore criminals. It would be like everybody fighting to rescue the mafia or something. It's wrong. And I don't like the way they make my people look.
SPEAKER 08 :
George, I appreciate you calling in. I think this has been an ongoing issue with politicians, and honestly, specifically with the left, which is to be the party that is so against racism that they actually end up becoming racist themselves in the way they talk down to people, the way they marginalize people, the way they assume you're going to vote one way or the other. That always has rubbed me the wrong way, and I think it's rubbed the American people the wrong way. I think it's why you saw such a large turnout in different communities, lots of different communities that traditionally did vote Democrat this last time. Because people like you, George, are really sick of being told how you're supposed to believe and sick of being talked down to. And you end up in these kind of situations where, of course, there are these moments where they're going, we're going to break into a jail and we're going to do all of this because of what's happening. And it's simply not the mainstream feeling of the American people.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you also have to remember what party operatives and members of Congress have been saying about the immigration issue this whole time. It's not something of like, let's bring people in and help better lives and live the American dream. You've seen everywhere from CNN to MSNBC to the halls of Congress in hearings. Members of the Democrat Party say things that are very racist at their core. Things like, I can't wait to see middle class women get upset because the price of their smoothies went up because the migrants aren't here to pick the fruit for them. And even members of Congress that are making very direct, overt racial statements about that they need the migrants here to do the farm work because they aren't going back to that. That was from Jasmine Crockett. And this is not okay. This is not America. They are trying to say that they're doing oversight of this authoritarian Trump administration, but the language that's coming out of the Democrat party is shocking. The overt racism of what they have towards migrants, they're not doing this for some let people have a better life, get away, flee from persecution. They are saying it's an economic situation and we need to make our lives better by having people in a lower station than us. That's class warfare.
SPEAKER 08 :
I want to hear also this bite from Eric Swalwell. He was talking, you know, obviously another person who you think would be trying to make this into a political stunt photo shoot kind of moment. And he does. And let's take a look at what he said when confronted about this.
SPEAKER 07 :
So we have to do our oversight duties. And she was in the right to go and do that. And I promise you there's going to be more unnoticed visits by my colleagues where they show up and they better be let in. I don't know if he meant unnoticed.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think he meant unannounced. Unannounced.
SPEAKER 08 :
It certainly wasn't unnoticed. We've all seen it.
SPEAKER 06 :
We've all seen it.
SPEAKER 08 :
But yeah, unannounced visits. They'd be doing these surprise drop-ins. Though, as you said, Will, there is a proper way to do this. They do have the right to do this. They do have the right to go take a look at it. No problem with that at all. They just decided to make this into a scene.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what probably should happen if you're doing an oversight mission to an executive branch thing? It should be unnoticed. I think he actually messed up with what he was trying to say, but said the right thing. This shouldn't be a stunt. It shouldn't be a press conference. If you're going to conduct oversight, then go and conduct oversight. And don't cause a scene. Don't get in a scuffle. And you know what? If they don't let you in... Go back and raise it up. Get leadership involved and make an issue out of it that way instead of trying to take the law into your own hands and cause these issues. You know what that means? You're going to get charged with something if you put your hands on a federal law enforcement officer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let's take Joe in Tennessee before we head to the next segment. Joe, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, this is Joe out of Nashville, Tennessee. I'm calling about a lady that was... Yes, yep, yep. She was acting like a bully is what she was acting like. And just because she's a lady of color gives her no more right than anybody else.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Joe, I don't even think it's that. I don't think that's really playing into it. I think it's that this is a political stunt. This is a stunt from a member of Congress who decided to become a celebrity and to try to make a name for himself. It's actually very hard. There's so many members of Congress and so many senators. It's actually hard to be one of the handful that most people know. The breakout congressmen and congresswomen are pretty low, the amount that you see on TV. You see about the same dozen every day. Right. So again, she had a moment to try to make herself into a star. It may be working, by the way. So you know what? I guess good for her PR team. But yeah, of course, if you decided not to take this plea deal because you want to keep yourself in the news, you want to keep it going... Well, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who are willing to do that. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110, 1-800-684-3110. When we get back, we're going to talk about the important work of the ACLJ in a brand new case you're not going to want to miss. Again, it feels a bit old school, but we're still at it fighting for students' rights. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow. Welcome back to Secular. We're going to continue that conversation, by the way, in the next segment. So if you still have questions or comments about that congressperson, feel free to call in. We went through all our phone lines, and now we've got a full bank open at 1-800-684-3110. That's once again 1-800-684-3110. I want to turn our attention to a fifth grader. That's right, a fifth grader with special needs. The student had some Bible verses that they wanted to share at their school. And of course, in a traditional ACLJ kind of way, we have to get involved because again, this fifth grader, special needs. essentially was told, you are banned from doing this in your school. And as we have learned over the years, and we've advocated over the years, and we have won over the years, this is not constitutional. You're not allowed to do this. You're not allowed to tell a fifth grader, a student, where their limit of free speech is. Of course, there are some rules that may be convenient when it comes to obscenities and those kind of things that cannot be distributed. But we filed a demand letter. We said we got to take care of this. And if it doesn't, if they don't respond to our deadline, the school district here, well, we're going to court.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And this child was trying to share hope, has very deeply held beliefs in a deep personal faith, and was sharing Bible verses with fellow students. And the district, the administrator, as well as the teacher, then were giving conflicting opinions. messages they were all confiscated then given back and then said maybe during this time but then finally uh the principal told the student and the student's mother and this this child not only does she have special needs she is with her her guardian and mother that she came to be with her through the foster program so she has overcome a lot and and was just sharing hope with with her fellow students But after this back and forth, which is already confusing and trying to get what is allowed and what's not allowed, they were told by the principal that the independent school district policy prohibits all distribution of religious material on school property at any time. constitutional violation number one and then despite repeated requests from the parent to ask which policy I need to see this policy I don't believe that that's constitutional then is given a vague policy that says non-school materials from students requires pre-approval from the principal before any non-school material can be distributed and And that's standard constitutional violation number two. That conflicts with the First Amendment rights. Not only does it violate the Supreme Court precedent from Tinker v. Des Moines Independent School District, but that's the famous one that your rights are not shed at the schoolhouse gate, but it also violates the Establishment Clause because if... They're saying all religious materials are banned because of that pre-approval. That is then saying that the government, which is the school administration at this point, gets to decide which speech is allowed on campus at what time.
SPEAKER 08 :
I also want you to know about how misleading they were to this student. Of course, they have a 12-year-old student. 12-year-old student with special needs. And by the way, this happened on May 12th. Okay, it's May 20th right now. You're hearing about this a week after this initially happened. That's how quick the ACLJ team gets into action. When I say you submit something on the website and form, you get attached to a lawyer. That's what I'm talking about. Okay, it's already developed far enough for us to talk about it on the air. May 12th, the student brought the Bible verse strips, little strips to her elementary school and even offered one to the principal. That's right, the principle that ended up banning this. That principle confiscated all of the verses and while confiscating the verses, the way they did it, they didn't say, here, let me take all your verses from you. uh, you know, and it tried to be rude, which it was, Oh, we're going to distribute these to other kids that are having a bad day. So just lied to this student. Nevertheless, they confiscated it, did not do it, did not hand out these verses and refused to return them the next day. Again, emotional, manipulation, First Amendment violations, so many things going wrong in this situation. You know what? A lot of times it's scared people in the school systems. They don't know what their rules are. They don't know what the law is. And we have to wake them up, slap them around a little bit in the face and say, wake up. You need to know what's going on and you need to know the actual rules, the actual laws. And if they don't respond to that and they don't reverse action for this 12 year old, we're going to court and they'll be sued. And we have the best of the best. And why do we have the best of the best? Because people like you support the work of the ACLJ. Because if you didn't, I don't know the personal financial things with this, but this is a girl, a 12-year-old special needs student who ends up in foster care with a deep faith, who's hanging on to Jesus, who just wants to spread a little bit of love around campus, spread a little bit of hope around school. Instead, they mislead her. I would say they emotionally abuse her. they take it from oh we're just gonna you know we'll take these from you we'll distribute them they lie to her and then they confiscate them won't even give them back so what are we going to do about it well thankfully there are organizations like ours that say no cost to that student no cost to that family the foster family that is now raising this child the guardian family no cost to them the only way it can be no cost to them and also available to them and have the best of the best, as I've said, and it usually is the best of the best. We had some big wins today is because people give financially because people know that these who need it, need it. And maybe that will be you one day. And all you have to do is go to ACLJ.org and make your donation. And if you have, by the way, legal needs that are within our scope, stuff like this, all you got to do is go to ACLJ.org slash help. Because it's outrageous that this is still happening in 2025.
SPEAKER 06 :
And here's two items that I want to also point out. One, they have until Thursday to respond.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's Tuesday. Not a lot of time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Basically, and that response needs to say, you're right, this policy we need to get rid of. We need to change because we are violating the constitutional rights of our students. That's, I think, probably the only acceptable answer that we'll take. And if not, lawsuit. Federal court. And a lot of people in chat have been asking, where is this school? And a lot of you, your mind may be thinking, this has got to be California, got to be Oregon. A lot of you watch from Washington State, got to be the Pacific Northwest, right? Texas. And not Austin, Texas. This is in between Austin and Waco, more rural area. So this is not where you expect this to be. That's why we have to be so vigilant.
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And that's why sometimes you can send a demand and say, you got to fix this. And they do because sometimes these school districts truly don't know what their laws are. They hear the word separation of church and state. They hear those things. They've heard them their whole lives because they've grown up in the public school system or something like that. And they assume they know what it means when they really don't. So you know what? You give them a couple of days. We'll give them two days. Fix this problem. Now, some people have asked specifically, look, I mean, we want to protect the privacy of this student for now until they're ready to talk. And if they are ready to talk at some point, of course, we would have the family because we are representing the parents and the girl. We're doing that right now. And again, this is the incredible work of the ACLJ. We'll talk about the breaking news items that you'll hear, and I think that's always good to cover. I know you want to hear it. I want to talk about it. And a lot of times it plays into everything that's going on. I mean, this is kind of right in the pocket of what's going on in the world. But we are representing the student and her mother, and we sent that demand to the school district in Texas, demanding they respect this student's First Amendment rights. And look, I think there's a lot more that we can do also if it decides to go to a lawsuit, because the emotional damage they've done to this person It's really unfortunate, but we're not going to stand for it. Go to ACLJ.org. We've got a second half hour coming up. Make sure you're joining us. It's on ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, or however you get your podcasts.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome back to Sekulow. If you missed the last half hour of the broadcast, I encourage you to go back and specifically watch the last segment we did because that segment was about a brand new ACLJ issue that we are taking on. It's a kid with special needs, 12-year-old, wanted to distribute or was distributing little just cut-out sheets of Bible verses to her friends. She has deep faith, again, special needs student. It's been the foster system. was told not only that she couldn't do it, they were confiscated. She was lied to and told that, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll take these. The principal took them and said, we'll take them, we'll distribute it to anyone who's having a bad day. Lied to, and then when it was finally found out that they were not being distributed, would not return them. I'm sure they were probably disposed of or something like that. I'm not sure, but that's what it feels like. And this happened a week ago. And the ACLJ team is taking action right now. And I want you to be part of that with us. So go to ACLJ.org. If you give right now, I'll know that it is because you want to support things like this that the ACLJ has been doing for 30 plus years, 35 plus years, 40 years, nearly if you include pre-ACLJ work that my family has been doing. You can be a part of that journey as well. But I'll know if it came in during their broadcast. That's because you care about these kind of issues. Because sometimes it's hard when there are so much breaking news happening in the States and around the world, it's hard to kind of see through this. This isn't going to be your number one story you see on TV. But it doesn't mean it's any less important. And of course, we're going to cover the news. We're going to cover what we're talking about. And that's what we're doing here today. And a lot of you have called in because we are talking about the plea deal that was rejected by that Democratic congresswoman who stormed the facilities, if you will, and caused a ruckus, but really was doing a photo op, was doing a show. So much so that when they offered the plea deal, pretty much saying, hey, we're not going to prosecute you. Just say you're sorry. She said, no, no, no. I'll take the charges. And that's what's happening right now. And taking the charges, because as you said, well, maybe they learned something from President Trump, which is that is how you get your base fired up if you feel like you're getting politically prosecuted or persecuted by your own government.
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That's right. And a violation of 18 U.S. Code Section 111 for assaulting, resisting or impeding certain officers or employees. I mean, this can carry depending on the the way it's charged, what they allege, but can carry not more than eight years in prison and a fine. So do I think a sitting member of Congress, they're going to try to go for the maximum? I don't know. Also, you never know with this administration. But what the key here is that there's bad behavior by those on the left when it relates to this immigration issue. And instead of trying to have constructive dialogue or even doing their oversight job in an organized, orderly manner, They're instead resulting to stunts, subversion of law. You think of the judges, the one that had a member of Tren de Aragua living with him, and then the judge in Wisconsin trying to help a illegal migrant who was before her court on assault charges, helping him escape and evade arrest from federal immigration officials. And then you have this where scuffles are breaking out. in front of these detention facilities because of the way they're conducting their quote-unquote oversight, what oversight do they want to see? I want to know that from this member of Congress. If the oversight was, I want to go and just see, I don't even know if that's direct oversight. If she wants to see the conditions and things of that nature, wants to write a report, wants to go before a committee. But reality, I don't even know that she knows what oversight she was looking for because what she got was the attention. And that, I think, is what these members of Congress were actually looking for here.
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Hey, phone lines right now are completely jammed. We will try to get some more. Some may open up at 1-800-684-3110. If you're on hold, Susan, Richie, Mary, Randolph, Michael, stay on hold. I'm going to get you. In the next segment, though, we're going to head over to ACLJ Jerusalem, Jeff Balaban, because we have some news out of Israel and also an unbelievable interview that was done with one of the current heads of Hamas, that again i'm not gonna say you couldn't believe it because of course you can believe it but saying all the things that you and i have been saying for years but now it's coming out of their own mouths and of course you know what they're thrilled about the most college students in america that's coming from hamas we're going to talk about that with jeff balaban coming up if you want to support the work of the aclj great time to do it we had another big victory we'll talk about that also coming up in the next segment welcome back to secular we are going to talk to jeff balabon aclj jerusalem but i think we need to set this up so you understand what we're talking about here because there's been a lot of movements obviously in israel in the battle with hamas and uh again you had bibi netanyahu saying okay this is it we're going to start the uh kind of the final stages of the takeover of gaza there's been a lot of outcry from that from the left obviously from the students on campuses But this came across my feed yesterday, late last night, and I wanted you to take a look at it. This is from a broadcast or a podcast coming out of Libya. That's right.
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And is with one of the current heads of Hamas. That's right. This is a senior leader in Hamas, serves in a spokesperson role in many ways. But this was on Libyan TV, and they're having a very open conversation about the war.
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But you should take a listen to the words that they're saying, because not only does it prove the points we've been trying to make for years, it's actually them saying what we knew they were going to say. So not only does it discuss what's going on in America, on our college campuses, it also talks about, you know, when there's a lot of outcry, and I understand when you get upset, when you see the images of children starving or of babies that have been killed or in this incursion that this has happened in this war you who doesn't seem to really care the people in hamas and we've been saying that for years but now they are saying it even saying you know what we'll replace those babies or we already have replaced those babies we've already replaced those children god's going to do that for us so you know what some some death no big deal let's take a listen
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Who could have imagined that students in America at universities from which the politicians graduate would protest against their leaders and against Zionist occupation and say that Palestine must be liberated from the river to the sea, not just the 1967 borders, like most of our Arab leaders say. They oppose the Zionist enterprise in its entirety. Right. This is a dream come true. Today, the number of Muslims is multiplying because of what is happening in Gaza. Today, Gaza is giving a new interpretation to the Holy Quran. People used to read the verses, but perhaps did not understand what they meant. Now, when they see what is happening in Gaza, they understand the meaning of many of these verses.
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because of many details that are evident every day in Gaza.
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So what is happening in Gaza is not about 100 destroyed houses or 1,000 martyrs.
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The story is much bigger.
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Gaza today has taught a lesson not just to the occupation, but to the Islamic nation and the world.
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The implications, fruits and outcome are extensive.
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We will rebuild the houses and will produce dozens more babies for each martyr.
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They are the price we need to pay.
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so then jeff i have to turn to you again leaning off on that is talking about how great these american college campuses are that we're seeing islam be spread but not only that the radicalization the conversation about from the river to the sea and they actually celebrate the American students on campuses while throwing their own brothers, if you will, under the, under the table saying, you know what? Those American students are stronger than most of our Arab leaders who say the 67 borders they're saying from the river to the sea. Jeff, you there?
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So look, this, uh, this entire speech, this entire monologue by him is very important for Americans to understand. And I'm so glad that we're bringing it out to this audience. Because it goes, not only does it demonstrate what you just pointed out, that their work is to cause the West to embrace the idea of a true genocide of the Jewish state, and indeed the Jewish people, because their charter calls for the eradication of every Jew on earth. They've also expanded it to say they want to change our culture. This is a holy war. And in their holy war, they have declared over and over again, they will win because they love death more than we love life. They love death more than Jews love life. They love death more than Christians, more than Israel, more than America. And so the truth is, they celebrate this. And we've been saying this all along. They're the ones who want as many civilian deaths as possible. And so the world has been doing their job. UNRWA has been raising them, by the way. It's another thing. American tax dollars go to the UN. UNRWA raises a generation to believe that this is the goal of life, to have children in order to use those children as human bombs to destroy Israel and destroy the Jews and ultimately America and the West.
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Yeah, I think it's on Front Street. You're seeing it right now. I've heard them talk similarly, but maybe not this direct, where you go, it doesn't matter the children that are killed. We're just going to replace them. And God's already replacing them. So you know what? Small price to pay. So when everyone has this big outcry and they are upset of what's going on and they're blaming Israel for all of this, they have to hear from their own leaders. Now, of course, people will say, hey, we're not saying Hamas is good. We've never said that. Well, clearly, the leadership of Hamas thinks that's what you're saying. They think that's what you're saying, American students.
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just American students. They think that what you're saying, you guys in Congress and in the Senate who've been saying this, or when the president of the United States, the former president of the United States gets up and says that the result of October 7th and this massacre of Jews is that we must give these animals a state when what they've declared is that they want to genocide every Jew, that they're proud of it, and they're happy when Arabs and Muslims are killed in that cause. And it's no problem. We'll just replace them more and more and use them to kill This is exactly what's being supported. It's insane to suggest that people like this could ever have a state. It's insane to suggest that they can live in peace and harmony. The entire structure of Palestinian ideology is predicated on genocide. And there is no coexistence with this ideology. And yes, it's a very good catch that this was translated and brought out to the public. This is not... This is how they talk amongst themselves. This is the entire culture. And unfortunately, our tax dollars have been raising a generation or now the third generation to believe exactly this. They exist as martyrs.
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And Jeff, we only have a couple minutes left here in this segment. But as we look at this also, one, it's so brazen and it's really hard to watch how casually And blase, these things are said. And that's the price we have to pay. What's a building? What's another person dying? We'll have more babies. We'll build another building. The fact that they have the world so duped and tricked that those that are fine with a genocide are actually the death cult leaders of Hamas. And if it takes a genocide of their people, they are the ones responsible for that. because that is what their goal is. Their goal is to continue more death of Palestinian lives until those leaders of Hamas can take over and eradicate Israel. They do not care about a nation of their Palestinian people. They care about them conquering and eliminating the Jews, and then they can repopulate. That is what we are being told from their very mouths. And everyone in America needs to hear that. And that's exactly one of the reasons you're in D.C. today in meetings.
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That's correct. I'm hearing meetings in D.C., briefing some people on Capitol Hill and also some think tanks about this exact problem. There's a complete lack of understanding of what the other side wants. They want a civilizational war. They are happy to die for it. They're happy to kill for it. And I'll be honest, the only people in the world who seem to really care about the actual lives of the Arabs in Gaza is Israel. And the world is condemning them, but they're trying to do everything they can to save lives. Meantime, the other side, not just Hanas, but all these organizations, they're trying to do everything to destroy Arab lives in the service of genocide.
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We gotta platform this kind of content. You gotta be able to see it, because when you see it, I think it opens eyes, it opens hearts, because Israel sometimes loses the PR war. We've talked about that all the time, that it seems like when the media decides that they're the enemy, and of course we had, after October 7th, you had about a week, and I remember even saying it, I think you got about a week until Israel's declared the bad guy, and that's pretty much what happened within a few weeks. All of a sudden it went from your top celebrities all being supportive of Israel to then either going silent, or uh having uh to go the exact opposite way and you see people like at the film festival at con right now that's happening israel has been a top topic that has come up and you have an israeli woman quentin tarantino's wife wearing the tiniest of tiny yellow ribbons uh pins in support getting slammed just of course she they live in tel aviv these are she is israeli uh of course, they're supportive of getting the hostages free. But we got to change this narrative. And I think when you see footage like this, it's kind of undeniable. And Jeff, I know we're going to wrap this segment here in just about a minute, but I appreciate you coming on and explaining this and also sharing with the American people what's going on and also sharing with our friends in Jerusalem, in ACLJ Jerusalem, how important it is to stand with them.
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Well, look, I'm very happy to do this, and that's why I work with ACLJ, because the credibility we have both in Washington and in Jerusalem really is unique, and people understand the depth and expertise, not just in terms of getting the word out, but also in terms of the law and the policy. And so thank God that you brought this to light, and we'll continue to work exactly on revealing these things where it matters.
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All right, thank you, Jeff, so much for joining us, and we appreciate everyone who calls in and supports Israel as part of our team. We know that it is not the easy thing to do right now. We know it's not the popular thing to talk about. But that's why the ACLJ has been there for so long. That's why we've been in Jerusalem. That's why we've been in America. Because sometimes it's not what the media thinks is popular, but a lot of times it's where the American people think we should be. Look, if you watch the Eurovision Song Contest, there was a lot of pushback against Israel. Israel ended up finishing second place and number one by a landslide. in the fan votes and again you may not think that's big but on a global stage you cannot imagine the more anti-semitic posts i saw during that i did see someone say you know what let the palestinians have a state let eurovision be there and see how everyone is treated when you get there because that show would not go over very well in these countries we're gonna take a couple calls coming up 1-800-684-3110 few calls or a few lines open right now for you 1-800-684-3110 All right, let's wrap up the show with the most important voice in the room. Of course, that is you. We got a lot of people in a hold for close to half an hour. We appreciate it. Let's kick it off with Susan, who is calling in Maryland on line one. Watch it on YouTube. Susan, you're on the air.
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Yeah, you know, I feel like Trump campaigned as an enforcer and to not tolerate lawlessness. Yet the bombing in California or pro-life facility lawlessness is Trump considers the gift from Qatar. Qatar is friends with Iran. And Iran is accused of trying to assassinate Trump. Sounds like lawlessness. Illegal encampments again at the Israeli embassy that was thrown off during the GOP convention. But it has illegally shown up again in front of the Israeli embassy again. Lawlessness. Scores of corpses found in Libya again. after clashes in Tripoli. That sounds like lawlessness. Who would do business with Libya or give them any kind of integrity?
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I mean, Susan, I think there have been a lot of concerns over the Trump administration's moves in the terms of the Middle East. Now, I've always said I kind of look at the facts and I look at what we're dealing with right now. And sometimes these are negotiation tactics. I'm willing to give some benefit of the doubt. I'm not saying I agree with all of the decisions that have been made in that. And I know that there's some concerns with our friends in Israel that they're making some deals and some decisions with. some interesting parties now we can turn back to the abraham accords and say hey look at what he was able to accomplish the last time around get a lot of these countries i never thought would even be recognizing israel celebrating israel having a hanukkah celebration saying you know what is we welcome israeli tourism to the uae we welcome uh israeli tourism to dubai all these places that are nearby and really could use the support and so maybe there's something to that but look I don't think questioning those deals is something you're not allowed to do. I don't think questioning Donald Trump is something you're not allowed to do. Of course you are.
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Well, I wish that she had stayed on the line because I actually had some questions surrounding some of the things she raised. There's a lot there. There's a lot there. So it's a lot to unpack. But I would just say some of the things that she described as lawlessness, I think, are foreign policy. So that I don't think you can really make that. juxtaposition of lawlessness and and what's going on but yeah you were freely allowed to criticize the administration that's what's great about america the the problem was under previous administrations if you criticize them they investigated you or they sent uh fbi's into the catholic church they did things like that they kick you off social media stuff like that happens let's uh we got a lot of calls let's try to get to some more let's go to richie in california richie you're on the air
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Hey, how's it going? I got three quick comments. Three, go ahead. One, they should call Planned Parenthood Planned Hamas because that's their intention. The other thing is, talk about religious freedom. If a girl, a woman could wear a hijab into school, that's religious. And the other thing is, Why are these people that were paying tax dollars flying down there for a publicity stunt?
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Well, I think that's a good point. Look, Richie, politics is publicity in some ways. There's always trying to make a name for yourself. Because look, she probably has a goal that's beyond where her current stature is. You want to be a celebrity. You want to be a star. You want to be not just a politician. You want to get the full razzle dazzle. You want to be known around the country. You want to be the next AOC. So how do you do that? You're out of AOC. You get to go make a show of yourself. You get to try to storm an ICE facility. Get arrested. Get charged. They say, hey, we're going to offer you a plea deal. You say, no, charge me. That's what I wanted. That's why I'm here.
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They used to have this saying that every U.S. senator looks in the mirror and sees the president of the United States. I think that old adage is now what can be said about the Democrats in the House of Representatives. Yes. Every Democrat in the House of Representatives looks in the mirror and sees the future president of the United States. That's why you see these publicity stunts. That's why you see these things over and over again. Because at the end of the day, they're not really concerned with governing. They're concerned with making a name for themselves and that celebrity that goes along with it.
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I thought you were going to say they couldn't see anything in the reflection because they're vampires. All right. That's spooky. Randolph. Which kind of feels like it ties in. Randolph in Texas, you're on the air. Okay. Okay. Go ahead.
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Yes, my name is Randolph Brown. I'm a 67-year-old Vietnam veteran, and I'm a Christian. I try to pattern my life according to what the Scriptures tell us to do. And one of the things I know that's going to happen, and it's destined to happen, you can speak of it in the Bible, is that this world is going to end. And no matter what politicians make decisions on doing, We eventually are going to go by scripture and this world is going to die. We're living in a dying world. But the main point I want to make is that what we're doing as a country is undoing the laws that we put on the paper to do. I mean, if we have the top president of the United States defying the laws that Congress put in order, and allowing people to come out of prison and just changing things, how is that an example for us to follow? So if we're going to be led, then lead by doing the things that are right and wrong. If it's wrong, why are you trying to do that? Because you're setting the example for others to do. One thing doesn't change anything from the way that we live.
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We're only cutting you off because we're running out of time.
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We have three minutes and three calls. What you did tell our call screener is I think it's important to criticize both sides equally in this situation. And I think that's a very fair statement. I think people are allowed to criticize the government. That is one of our First Amendment rights is that you can criticize the policies of the government. I'm not quite sure which. violating of congressional laws was you're specifically referring to many of the things that have been put on hold with these nationwide injunctions are violations of the administrative procedures act they're not saying that it's against the law it's just maybe done too quickly things like that but but all that to say is that uh one randolph i i agree with many of your convictions about the world i mean we are a fallen world and that without faith i think we are all hopeless but i also don't think that we need to look to our politicians as our religious and our pastors our religious leaders and we should maintain our focus on god we got to get to mary maryland i mary i'm sorry i did not see you were an aclj champion i really apologize you should get bumped to the front of the line you violated the law logan i feel horrible about that mary go ahead you're forgiven thank you
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Um, they already spoke about, um, setting a bad example. So I'll skip to the last of this. I just feel that this woman, I can't call her a lady because you can't trust her, but she needs to be treated like anyone else that would be treated if they were, um, doing that type of action. And I do think that, um, She should even maybe have a heavier penalty than others because she is setting the example, a bad one for our children and for adults as well.
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Well, Mary, I appreciate you calling. I appreciate your continued support of the ACLJ as a champion. I will say that if, yeah, they certainly have not gone light on Republicans, whether that be President Trump or otherwise. So, yeah, if you're going to play that game, I guess two can play at that game. Unfortunately, I don't know if that's how it's going to go in New Jersey, but again, she's trying to make a name for herself. Hey, Kara, I'm sorry we didn't get to you today. You haven't been able to hold the lease, though, so I don't feel as bad, but I feel a little bad. Call us tomorrow. We'll try to get you. Thank you for supporting the work of the ACLJ. I encourage you to do that. We've had some big wins as well. We didn't even get to all of them. We'll talk about more of those tomorrow. But I encourage you, if you heard about that student, a 12-year-old student, special needs student, and it tugged on your heartstrings because you know what that feels like, to have your Bible and Bible verses ripped from your hands and lied to and manipulated by your school system, or you feel for them, give us a call. Or not give us a call. Give us some support. Like I said, if it comes in during the show, I know that is what you're supporting. Go to ACLJ.org. Do it today, Will. That one caller might even be my favorite caller ever who once told me, you know, I don't know if it's the end of the world, but stranger things have happened. Talk to you tomorrow.
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SPEAKER 05 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity on these issues by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And there's a big question. There's going to be an election in Douglas County at the end of June regarding whether or not Douglas County wants to become a home rule county. And so in studio with me, we're going to do a pro and a con on this. A pro on this issue is Commissioner George Thiel. And Commissioner Thiel, it's great to have you here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Great to be here, Kim. Thanks for having us.
SPEAKER 05 :
And this question, there will be ballots going out the first part of June, right? And the ballots are due at the end, June 24th or something?
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. They're going to mail. The clerk is going to mail them out on June 2nd. They'll be arriving in everybody's mailbox that first week of June. They're going to have a few weeks to return that until June 24th, close of business, 5 p.m.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And what's going to be on this ballot? What's the questions?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, so it's really going to be three simple questions. Number one is going to be, should the people of Douglas County sit a home rule commission? Yes or no. And of course, I advocate for yes. And then there's going to be a question of who should be those home rule commissioners. First, pick three at-large Home Rule Commissioners. And then the third question is pick six from your Commissioner District. So people in Castle Rock, Castle Pines will be electing District 2 delegates to the Home Rule Commission. Folks in Parker, Lone Tree. They'll be going ahead and electing for District 1. And then folks in Highlands Ranch, Sterling Ranch, Roxboro, they'll be electing for District 3. And again, they'll have a choice of six to elect as district representatives to the Home Rule Commission, and then three at-large. And Abe, Kevin, and I, that's Commissioners Abe Layden, Kevin Van Winkle, and then myself, we're running for those at-large positions.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so there will be a total of 21 people on this commission? Yes, ma'am. Okay, 21.
SPEAKER 15 :
As mandated by Colorado Constitution, Article 14.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, okay. So how did the idea for this get started? Who's behind this?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, first and foremost, I mean, hey, I might be the one to be blamed for being behind this. I grew up in Weld County, Kim. In 1976, Weld County went home rule. And so my whole life growing up as a kid in Weld County, I heard adults around me say, do you hear what the governor is doing? Do you hear what the legislature is doing? And there was always an adult there saying, it doesn't matter. We're home rule. And it's in our research and legal analysis, sure enough, there's of the tens of thousands of discrete statutes on the books and Colorado revised statutes, there's only 115 statutes. that can override a home rule charter, 115 out of thousands. Every year, there is one or more bills written in the state legislature that purposely excludes home rule counties from that provision. And that's when this really took hold for me, because during COVID, I saw how Weld County was reacting to the statewide shutdown enacted by Governor Polis, And I knew coming into it, because I was on the Cass Rock Council at the time, that we had little choice on what was going to happen. And we turned to the county and we found out the county had little choice. And yet you looked at Weld County during COVID and they were just not complying. with a lot of the shutdowns. Now, individual businesses that wanted it, sure, they had problems with their liquor licenses with the state. But Weld County had far more latitude when dealing with these government overreach situations that we saw during COVID. And that's when it really sunk for me. And I started when I ran for county commissioner in 2020, I ran on a platform of taking us home rule. And finally, this year, I've got two colleagues that agreed with me and we're moving forward.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. It seemed, though, that Douglas County ended up doing pretty well because Tri-County... health became zero county health, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Pretty much. Yeah. But that was something else, Kim, that people said, oh, it's impossible. I mean, we had Kyle Clark on 9 News punking us out saying, what is Douglas County going to do when they fire all their health experts? Well, it turned out that we had a lot of really good public health experts living in Douglas County, and it helped us to shape our own public health department. Which, by the way, we haven't had to raise taxes. We haven't had any cost increase at all out of our general fund. And we're doing it. Actually, when you look at all sources of revenue, whether state or federal, we're still coming in about $3 million less than we were paying for Tri-County. And by the way, I know people focus on, well, what's our local cost? Don't we all pay state taxes? Don't we all pay federal taxes? So we're $3 million more efficient with our public health dollars than Tri-County ever was.
SPEAKER 05 :
Love that. Obviously, I love that. So I noticed here on the website, there's good information, that there are 43 things that a home rule city can do. Excuse me, a home rule county can do, correct? Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, those are the annotated powers in Section 30 of Colorado Advised Statutes. Okay. We can probably do more, though, when you get out of those annotated county powers. And those are additional powers that the county would have under home rule than we have today as a statutory county. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
So what's the top three things that you would want to accomplish, change, whatever, if in fact this home rule was instituted?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, first and foremost, it'll give us a great set of tools in our toolbox to resist what's going on down at the state legislature. Every year we just see a slide further and further to the progressive radical left. And as a home rule county, just like Willard County today, we'll have more capability to resist, to, quite frankly, pick and choose what laws will apply to us. And that doesn't even count the ones that the state's going to write to totally accept out a home rule county from its provisions of an individual bill.
SPEAKER 05 :
So are you saying that a home rule county would not have to adhere to any of the stuff that's happening down there?
SPEAKER 15 :
You said any of the stuff. Yeah. Let's not go crazy here. The reality is, no, there are still going to be state concern bills that are written. None were written. There were no bills written in the 2024 legislative session that would override a home rule charter. Zero. None were written to be of state concern.
SPEAKER 05 :
So like 003, the magazine bill?
SPEAKER 15 :
Great example. 003, everybody keeps telling me, and I keep asking and I keep reading 003, both what was first introduced and then massively amended before I got to the governor's office. Everybody tells me, oh, it's meant to be of statewide concern. It's meant to be statewide. But I can't find the discrete phrase of state concern through it. Our concealed carry laws were specifically written to be of state and local concern. That's a quote right from that bill that gave us our concealed carry laws. We don't have that in Senate Bill 3. So Senate Bill 3, you know what? It's a massive unfunded mandate on the sheriff's office where it is really how it hits. Quite frankly, I believe we can address 003 in Douglas County with a home rule charter that annotates the powers and responsibilities of the sheriff. Because those are not in the current statutory county capability for a statutory county sheriff that we have today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Next question. And I'm talking with Commissioner George Teal is there are some that are concerned that this is being really fast tracked. A lot of people like what we're going to have an election in June. What they don't know. So what would you say to that when people are concerned about it being fast tracked?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we're following the law. The way the law, specifically the provisions of Article 14 of the Colorado State Constitution were written is we're following that timeline. We could take longer, which would just mean another two years as a statutory county where we wait and see what happens in the legislature. We wait and see what creative left-wing writing they're going to keep coming. We made the decision that we'd like to try to get this done this year so that next year, January 1st, 2026, Douglas County is a home rural county.
SPEAKER 05 :
What are the three top issues, because you would be one of the commissioners, what would be the three top issues you would want to come out of the box and address?
SPEAKER 15 :
Very specifically, I'd like us to discuss what is our identity and try to encapsulate what that Douglas County identity is in our Home Rule Charter. You know, right now we've got term limits, two four-year terms for all county officers. That was passed through a vote of the people a couple years ago. But the reality is a new set of commissioners could introduce provisions and get that removed without a vote of the people. Well, if we encapsulate that in the charter, then we have term limits that are a part of the charter. And the only way to reverse that is a full vote of the people. I'd want to do that. Right now, as a statutory county, the Douglas County commissioners could introduce gun control under current laws in the county. I don't think that's right. I think any new gun control should be only passed by a vote of the people. We can do that with a home rule charter. And so we can limit inherently. I don't know if anybody knows anybody who lives in Douglas County, but yeah, we like our gun rights.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wouldn't that be unconstitutional for the people to vote for gun control? Say that again, Kim. I think it would be unconstitutional for 51% of the people to vote to take away their Second Amendment rights.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I absolutely agree with that. But it would be legal under Colorado law right now. The reality is, and by the way, in Douglas County, I don't think that's going to happen. I think any vote on guns and gun rights in Douglas County is going to favor gun rights. Let's encapsulate that in our Home Rule Charter so that we don't get, you know, listen, we've got one Democrat representing any district in Douglas County in the state legislature right now. Democrat influence in Highlands Ranch is growing. Well, what do we do with our Home Rule Charter to protect us in case more gain seats? They gain seats on the Board of County Commissioners. I think that's the real goal that I'm after with the Home Rule Charter is to protect that conservative identity that we have in Douglas County.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Next question. There are those that are, my understanding there's polling that's going on regarding this issue. So that takes money. So who's paying for that stuff?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we did ask about Home Rule on the biannual community survey that we do and that we've conducted. And that was something Douglas County has been doing for over 20 years of just going out to the community, gauging what people think, asking about topics like Home Rule. And we'll be getting that report today as Board of County Commissioners. Any additional polling, I'll tell you what, listen, Home Rule, I'm not the only guy who's an advocate here. There are other residents in Douglas County that have been talking to me for years about Home Rule. My understanding is I think they have organized. They do have an issue committee out there. How they are polling, what they're polling, how they're paying for it, I really don't have all those details. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. And then there are those that are concerned that this might be about water. My previous producer who's retired was a train guy and he was down in southern Colorado and they were at a bed and breakfast and they're talking with the owner. And she said, oh, you're from Denver. Well, there were a couple of guys in suits down here. This was several years ago wanting to take our water. And so there are those that are concerned that this is about the water down in the San Luis Valley. And, of course, the kind of the insatiable appetite for water in in the metro area. So what's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, first and foremost, you're probably talking about the RWR plan from a couple years ago. Listen, that was a plan that was going to happen essentially at that time when Douglas County, just like right now, is a statutory county. If that was the plan then, quite frankly, I don't know how home rule gets any additional advantage. A key piece of home rule is it gives control within the county. It doesn't give enhanced control outside of the county. Well, if you're talking about bringing water in from another part of the state, I don't understand how Home Rule is going to advance that ball any. Again, Home Rule is intended to help establish that identity within the county, help establish those laws within the county to self-regulate, just like a Home Rule municipality would.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, Commissioner Teal, thank you so much for coming in. Your final thought that you'd like to leave with our listeners and you're welcome to stay. I hope you will, because we'll have the against guests here on on the line. So your final thought.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I'm happy to stay and happy to participate in the conversation. This is an important conversation for the people of Douglas County because it's a question of do we just submit to what's going on in the state legislature and in the governor's mansion, or do we give ourselves additional freedom? Do we give ourselves additional choice on how we live our lives in Douglas County? My answer is, and you and I have talked about this many times before, Kim, when we were both on municipal councils, my default position is freedom for the people in our jurisdiction. And in Douglas County, I think freedom and liberty is what will drive us forward always. Home rule is that roadmap to freedom and liberty in Douglas County. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And text line is 720-605-0647. 720-605-0647. There's going to be an election. It's June 24th in Douglas County asking whether or not Douglas County residents want to become a home rule county. And that'll be a yes or no. And then there will be another question about your district commissioners that you would elect to be on this commission to draw up the charter for this. And then there will be at large questions or candidates as well. So we had Commissioner George Thiel in the previous segment who is pro on this Douglas County Home Rule question. Now I'm pleased to have David Eyre on the line. He's a professional engineer, a water specialist, retired director of Office of Acquisition with the Veterans Benefits Administration. David, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning, Kim. Can you hear me?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Is audio good on that, Joe? You think? OK, we think we're good on that. So, David, we've got this set up. Commissioner Thiel was on in the previous segment. And you are not in favor of this question on the ballot. So tell us why.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I am not. In fact, my blood pressure got up when I heard George talking about this is only about home rule and our ability to control our own destiny from the state. If you look at the Home Rule Charter, one of the authorities that a Home Rule has is the right to buy and bond for water projects. Okay, and as I was talking with you previously, and I talked with George last week on the same subject with Tim Wheat from Castle Rock, it is an issue of what is in it for them. As an acquisition person, I always look at where the agenda is. And in regards to Colorado, it's about water. Water is always critical to everything we do. Jim Sullivan, who was county commissioner, when I first started dealing with this back in 1994, and I always went around and around about water. And it comes down to water in Colorado. And this whole scheme is about the ability to bond and buy water outside of Douglas County and bring it into Douglas County. And you've got to look at who's going to make money off this. It would be the bonding agencies and those people that are consultants. and they make tremendous amounts of money doing this when i was on the pioneer southeast of a different southeast suburban water sanitation district otherwise known as the pioneer we found this out in regards to seeking projects uh you could do uh bonding and then you'd pay for it with tax tax revenue and capital don't you have to would there have to be an election david ire under tabor to do that no no That's the authority of the county or the taxing authority in this case. It would be the county commissioners. And they can go out and do that and have tax revenue pay for that. That Castle Rock has gotten themselves in trouble with that. They are in debt hundreds of millions of dollars to metro districts. And it doesn't require you to go out and get the people's permission to do those revenues because they can justify it under infrastructure costs. And so I would challenge George again, and I've had this discussion briefly, about what is in it for him and Abe when everything is all said and done. That's just the bottom line. It is about water. It is about them being able to take and earn money off of commissions and consulting fees and be able to not even produce a product. Castle Rock is in this problem right now with projects out there that can't pay their debt. uh because of uh of the bonds that were issued many years ago that the residents are now paying off and so you always have to look at who's going to make profit off it and follow the money why are we doing this
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
If George is still there, I'd love to talk with him about it again. Would you like to respond to that, George?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you bet. I mean, as very typical when I talk to Democrats, you know, David's talking about making money and who's making money. I'm talking about freedom and liberty. I'm talking about giving the people of Douglas County the capability to resist the left-wing politics coming out of Denver. every single day during our legislative session and david's talking about who's making money and making money obviously he wants some consulting feeds out of this whole thing and that's what the opponents are talking about the proponents though are talking about freedom and liberty for the people of douglas county giving us the legal structure to combat what we see every day in the legislature, every day coming down with executive orders from Jared Polis. It started in 2020 during COVID, and he's doing it just this week by telling, by overriding the local zoning that municipalities had, or he's going to hold back state funds that we all paid into with our taxes. And so, David, it's all about who's going to get rich, who's going to make the money. He seems to know a whole lot about consulting. He seems to know a whole lot about how to make money in the water business. And he's the only one talking about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. David, just a quick question. Hold on, David. Is Weld County, of course, this is pretty early regarding that executive order that Jared Polis came out and said that, and that's the problem with government. The government giveth and the government taketh away. And so is Weld County, they won't have to adhere to this?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't know. Like you said, we're pretty early in what's going on. I could tell you as a county, I haven't dug into those executive orders. I know that they're oriented on enforcing transit-oriented development. We got like five blocks in unincorporated Douglas County along Broadway and Highlands Ranch that's affected by these TOD, these transit-oriented development orders. laws that the governor is trying to enforce through executive order. So it probably doesn't matter much to us. Weld County, as far as I know, I thought Weld County was exempted out of the TOD in unincorporated Weld County because that's another law that exempts home rule counties.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Teal. David Iyer, your comments.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, first off, he attacked me for making money. I don't need to make money. I'm a retired federal employee of 40 years. I retired from the military. I should say I retired from the military after 40 years. I'm a retired federal employee after 35 years of service. I don't have to work another day of my life. I don't have to do anything, George. I'm not like you, who has stolen Valerie, who claimed to be something that he did not.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, David, let's stay to the issue, okay?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, no. His issue is he brought up, I would make money off of this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you brought up that I would make money off this, David. You were the one that said there has to be something for Abe and George. Listen, you know what something is? I get to live in Douglas County. David, last week you told me you're about to leave for Idaho.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hold on, Commissioner Teal. OK, you finish your thought, please.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, no. Last week, David told me that he's about to leave for Idaho because he can always leave for Idaho. Well, you know what? I'm from Colorado.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hold on.
SPEAKER 15 :
When I was in the military, I always had a Colorado license plate on my vehicles. Was it cheaper? Absolutely not. I could have easily gone and put on Wyoming plates. I live in Colorado. I'm from Douglas County. I'm working for the people of Douglas County.
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Okay. Thank you, Commissioner Thiel. David, your response. And let's stay to the issues of... My response is...
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is what is in it for George and Abe. And they heard this from me when we were at the state convention a couple years ago. We don't need RWR water. We want him to be very clear. This is not about home rule. It's about control of bonding. It's control of who can pay for what, who's going to benefit from what. So George, you've got a false narrative here, and I've called you out on it before, and I'm calling you out on the public airwaves. George, what's in it for you?
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Okay, thank you, David. But Kim, that's the deal. There's what's in it for me. I get to live in Douglas County as a home rural county. I get to reap the benefits of a locally controlled county in the state of Colorado as allowed by the laws of the state of Colorado. David is doing exactly what all the opponents are doing. They're making it personal. And then they're switching the narrative. They say it's got to be there has to be a catch. There has to be some personal benefit. And then when you turn the table on them, just like Democrats, just like all liberals do. They automatically say, no, no, this isn't about me. Don't don't ask about me.
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My question on this is on the table is this bonding authority, because that's one of the things when I was on city council, because you and I were on you were on Castle Rock and I was on. Lone Tree City Council at the same time, I realized that we're supposed to be representatives of the people. But what can happen is that people start to think they're working for the entity, whether or not it's the city or the county or whatever. And so they were using something to get around TABOR at that time called COP certifications. Certificates of participation, I believe is the phrase. Yeah, is what it is. So I think that is one of my concerns is having PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interest parties encumbering us, we the people, without our approval, which is what Tabor is supposed to be about. So I would be concerned. Would the county have bonding authority to be able to bond for a project, whether it's water or whatever, without the permission of the people?
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Honestly, I don't know, Kim. I haven't looked at it. It's not the area of concern that I have. The area of concern that I have is not a lot of people know that Douglas County debruised in the 1990s. Douglas County was the first county to debruce and to... undercut Tabor back in the 1990s. Under a home rule charter, we could copy and paste the taxpayer bill of rights right back into our home rule charter. I'm talking about that. Our county treasurer, Dave Gill, is talking about that. That's where my focus is. So as far as this bonding authority, I got to confess, I don't know. I'm not talking about that. I'm not thinking about that. Putting every provision of TABOR, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, into the county charter, that's exactly what I want to do. And that's why I'm running to be a Home Rule Commissioner. Okay.
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And regarding the debruising, that was something that I learned was kind of sneaky. And the debruising was on the having to ask for future or to keep excess revenue. And and that was put into lots of these ballot questions. And I remember I was just starting to learn about it. And it was I noticed it was a South Suburban bond question that it was it was in there. I don't think people really knew what they were voting for on that. David Iyer, okay, we've got about, hold on here, about four more minutes. So let me, I want to be fair on time, and we've kind of gotten into your time. But, you know, let's talk about the issues. Let's try to stay focused on that.
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Okay. George brought up under the homeroom statute, section 30-35-201, subsection 18, counties may purchase water. They purchase water and water rights for the purposes of supplying counties and the inhabitants thereof with water. When deemed necessary and proper, the governing body of a county may purchase and hold the lands with which said water right is connected, whether the same is within or beyond the corporate limits thereof. So, George, you need to go back and do more research on what the authority would be that you would have, and bonding is one, and the right to buy water would be another. And I challenge you that you just put out a false statement that you didn't know that, because that's very clearly delineated in the Colorado statute.
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Well, the reality is a statutory county can buy water now. I know. I was on the Cassarock Council when Cassarock bought the Chatfield allocation from the county. And the county purchased that in the 2000 zeroes. as a part of the Chatfield reallocation to hold that water for the water districts in the county, be it Parker Water or specifically Castle Rock Water. And I was on the Castle Rock Council, and I want to say it was 2018-2019. to buy that from the county. So you need to do your research, David. The reality is a statutory county can buy water right now. So what you're saying is, no, don't do this thing that will help us resist the left-wing tidal wave coming out of the state legislature every year because it'll allow us to do what a statutory county can do right now.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. In studio with me is Commissioner George Thiel, a Douglas County Commissioner. We're talking about this election that will be on June 24th. Ballots will go out June 2nd. And it's regarding home rule. And also commissioners that would be writing the charter for this on the line with us is David Iyer, and he is retired with the Veterans Benefits Administration, also an expert on water. And this came in, Commissioner Thiel, on the line. It says, can commissioners under home rule, could commissioners set their own salaries?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, the Home Rule Commission can establish what the salaries for county employees should be. In Weld County, they do that through a separate body instead of the commissioners to set that pay. We could do something like that in Douglas County as well if we wanted to. Or under Home Rule Charter, we could merely establish that you will always follow the pay schedule as set by the state legislature, just like we do right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Next question. In the charter, could it negate term limits?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and that's something we really need to be careful of because, yes, term limits could be negated by a home rule charter. And so I would tell anybody, make sure you're asking candidates when you meet them or talk to them or in a format like this, where do you stand on term limits? Me, I voted for our term limits that we live under right now because I lived in Douglas County when we passed that back through in the 2000 zeroes. And so I still say two four-year terms was good enough for George Washington. It's good enough for me. And I will be working as a Home Rule Commissioner to make sure we have term limits preserved in the Home Rule Charter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Commissioner Thiel, thank you so much. And you have given your final... thought at the end of your segment david ire we have a couple of minutes left uh he is uh and you're for uh commissioner teal you are for this home rule question david you are against and you've got a couple of minutes to with your closing uh comments
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, I've been a member or lived in Douglas County since 1992. I came back after military service in Germany to Douglas County and built my career in Douglas County. I own property in Park County. I own property in Douglas County. I also, through the passing of my parents' estate, my dad was a retired Army colonel. I have property in Idaho now. I am originally from Idaho. My family came westward from the East Coast in the late 1880s through the 1930s, and one of the big things was water development along the Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Washington State, and Colorado. It didn't matter where, they were always there, and they knew and understood that water was the key to settlement in the West. And so I have a vested interest of over 30 years living in Douglas County. I also have options that other people don't have. So those that are going to be in Douglas County need to understand home rule gives authority that is currently controlled by the state. I'm probably one of the most conservative people you're ever going to run into. Okay, and I am very proud of the service that I've done, and I am available to talk further about this, but this has come off very, very quickly. It's come through a process that's been very shaded and not open to the current statues. The Sunshine Law Acts, when I was a director on the Water and Sand District, We had to be very, very careful of what we talked about in executive session or when we had more than two members together because then that would be viewed as doing business outside of the purview of the public. And I would say this whole thing has been very shady, very clouded. It's going very, very quickly, too quickly in my opinion. And it needs to be slowed down and you need to take your time because there's a lot of power and authority that's going to occur with a whole new charter county that you currently don't have. And there's a lot of limitations and there's a lot of restrictions on the power of the county commissioners that would be taken off. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
David, thank you so much for joining us. And you are against this question. And Commissioner Thiel, thank you for being in studio. You are for this question on home rule. And gentlemen, we are out of time. Our quote for the end of the show is from Soren Kierkegaard. He said, life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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And I got a question for you. I know that you help people if they've been injured, and we've talked about this, but I don't think people really think about it, and that is social security disability. What is it, and who should apply?
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I'm glad you brought it up. It's one of those things, it never ceases to amaze me how many folks don't know it exists until really late in the game. it's a program like retirement. You know, if we pay into the system, we're entitled to take money when we're 62, 65, 67, 72, eventually it'll be up to 80. But it is there for folks that don't make it to retirement age and have something happen to them that prevents them from continuing to be able to work, put food on the table, support their family. So if someone is working they're paying into the system they suffer an injury that is going to prevent them from working for one year or they suffer or contracted disease or diagnosed with cancer anything that prevents somebody from going out and continuing to work they have the right if again if they've worked and they've paid into the system generally speaking there are some exceptions but if you've worked for five of the last 10 years and something happens and you can no longer work and you're not at that retirement age, you can apply for and should apply for Social Security disability benefits that will pay you until you reach that retirement age.
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What's the timeline on this? Does it take a while? It does.
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It does? It does, yeah. It can take, in Colorado, generally... And the average is really out there, but last numbers I saw, 281 days from the date an application is filed to be given an initial decision. 281 days. Now, most folks, and it's because the system is set up the way it is, they will be denied. And a lot of folks just leave it at that. But if they truly are unable to work, have been unable to work, are going to be unable to work for a year, we will file an appeal, and eventually we will request an opportunity to plead our client's case in front of an administrative law judge. And generally speaking, again, that's where most people, when a judge actually hears the person, listens to their testimony, understands why they can't work, what the diagnosis is, what the doctors have placed on them as far as restrictions, that's when they will be awarded Social Security disability benefits.
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Okay. So if people have questions about this, they can give you a call. That initial call is complimentary, correct?
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Very pleased to have on the line with me Dr. Dana Chang. She is a senior editor of China News. And, of course, China is in the news. Dr. Chang, welcome to the show. Yes, thank you for having me. Absolutely. And you know what? I just realized I like to confirm pronunciations. Am I pronouncing your name correctly?
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Yes, Dana Chang. Okay.
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Senior editor at Epoch Times. Okay. Well, China is certainly in the news. And one of the things, obviously, is Trump's tariffs. And I saw a headline that said that the Trump tariffs have affected manufacturing in China. What should people know about that?
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Yeah, there are a lot of people losing jobs right now. More than 40% of college graduates cannot get a job. And I won't say that's the effect of tariffs alone. It has been accumulating this pressure, job market, like maybe over the last one, two years. And right now, there are a lot of protests. Workers at the construction site and workers in factories and even some employees at the local government entity, they cannot get their salary. So they work months and months and have not got salary. Then they go to the street and protest. It's been going on in many cities around the country.
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So this is in China, correct? Yes. Okay. Is this making international news?
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No, because all the news in China are controlled by CCP. The Communist Party control tightly CCP. all the information, including social media, internet, even text message. If you text something wrong, it can be automatically deleted or someone might be at your door and the government security people. So even though there are a lot of negative news, going on and a lot of crisis, they control the information tightly. And their media promote negative news in America. So over the last, like, I would say six or seven years, there has been a large scale of anti-American propaganda. So if there's anything wrong in China, they say this is because of America.
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Okay, Dr. Chang, Dana Chang with China News. This seems to me like this would become a very dangerous situation in China if people are not receiving their paychecks, their salaries, and they're going hungry. That is one of the things that can really cause upheaval. So this seems like this could be a very dangerous situation.
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Well, Communist Party do not look at things this way. They say there are two ways, two ways. two tools to rule the country, to rule people. One is gun, another is pen. So with the propaganda and tightly controlled information and with gun, they can control people. They have been controlling people for a long time and they believe they can continue to control people. And they have been in crisis all the time. In 1950s, And early 1960s, there was a famine. It killed between 30 million to 40 million people. They starved to death. And not many people knew in the society because they controlled information so tight. And now with all the social media and phone, people know the information, but not the scale of the crisis. So a lot of people just listen to the news, which create a fake environment. They think, they believed what the CCP, the Communist Party is saying, oh, China is in rise and America is in decline. Quite some people follow that, have been brainwashed and follow that propaganda.
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So, Dr. Dana Chang, I could see that these policies have been going on for a while that is causing this. I could see, though, them using the narrative of the Trump tariffs and blame Trump to foment more anti-American sentiment of the people of China. What would you say to that?
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Well, it's dangerous, because the crisis is real. Like, people know, like, in Shanghai, right, high-end restaurants, and there are a lot of mainstream, like, restaurants are closing, and very low, like, street food are booming. People can see the effect. The train station is not crowded as before. People can see it. So how many people believe in communist party? Very few. In China, only the very top communist leader want to use the communist system to hold on to the power. So people are awakening, especially Apple Times published a series. It's called nine commentaries on the Communist Party. It laid bare the history of the Communist Party, how it had killed so many innocent people and its ruling. The book and the series of commentaries have been spread underground in China so widely, and many people publicly stated that they are withdrawing from the party. So this movement is almost like a Berlin Wall falling apart from the inside. More and more people are awakening. I think at some point, right, with more people awakened and see the evil of communist system, the communist party will fall apart. It's a matter of time, and we are getting very close.
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What would happen then? So there would be a power vacuum, which again can be a dangerous place to be. What do you think might happen?
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China has had a 5,000-year history, and only 100 years we had the Communist Party. So I'm not worried that China has enough smart people to rule a normal country.
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Okay, good point, 5,000 years to 100, although there's been a lot of misery in that. Let's talk about now, how can people find China News? What's the website?
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Okay, so our website in English is theepochtimes.com, and it has 24 different languages. And the Chinese people from inside China, some are savvy enough to get around the censorship and get on the Chinese website, that's EpochTimes.com. So Chinese people, with their access to the outside information, they would know the truth. So CCP is very scared of Epoch Times and they see Epoch Times as the number one enemy because it lay bare its own Evil history.
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Okay. And we're talking about the publication, Epoch Times, then. And so two questions, a little off subject. So there's some people that have said the pronunciation is Epoch Times, and some people say that the pronunciation is Epoch Times. Are both correct, or is just one of them? Which one's correct? We usually call it Epoch Times. Okay. Okay. Now, again, I missed the first part of the website for China News, so a little slower so I can get that.
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It's theepictimes.com, and you go to the China column.
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Okay. Oh, at the Epoch Times, go to the China. Yeah. Okay, great. So I have this pulled up then, and it says that you'd written this, I guess. It says, when I was still a student in China, my professor critiqued newspaper articles and TV programs every day to educate me. He showed me line by line how the media in China lied. why they lied, and the consequences of those lies. Did that happen in China, or were you studying the United States at that time? In China. He could have gotten in big trouble for that, yeah?
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Right, right, right. People got into trouble when listening to Voice of America, but when I was in college, there were some people individuals who got educated before communists took over and they knew the difference of a free world versus the communist so um in private he could teach me this way and I was lucky because in 1980s, there was a short period of time. It was relatively open, like it was trying to open to America. That's why I could come to America and work on my Ph.D. program.
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Okay. Did you ever go back to China after that? No. Okay. Well, I'm talking with Dr. Dana Chang. She is the senior editor of China News, which you can find that at the Epoch Times website. E-P-O-C-H, Epoch Times. We're going to continue the discussion. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And very pleased to have the Second Syndicate as a sponsor of the show.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. And our text line, I want to hear from you, is 720-605-0647. And the last segment of the show, we'll take call-ins, 303-477-5600. I'm talking with Dr. Dana Chang. She's the senior editor of China News. which you can find at the Epoch Times. That's E-P-O-C-H, the Epoch Times. Dr. Chang, you were very involved in... The Epoch Times is one of the most respected, I think, publications out there with really good, solid reporting. And you were involved in that at the beginning, yes?
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Yes. Yes. Yes. We started AppleTime in year 2000. It was founded to counter the propaganda of Chinese Communist Party.
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Well, and it's developed into this publication. I subscribe, and certainly there's everything online, but I actually once a week get a real newspaper, which I love. And one of the things that you had mentioned in this piece here that I'm regarding you is that you said the U.S. government recently has been discussing the danger of the United Front. which is a Chinese organization tasked to infiltrate America. You were reporting on this 15 years ago. So let's talk a little bit about the United Front.
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United Front is an organization that directly entered the central government, I would say, like a communist party from the very top. They want to use... Chinese people, mostly Chinese people or poor China people outside China to advance agenda of Communist Party. So for example, there were many Chinese residents in United States and they have different organizations. For example, Fujian Township Organization and some student organization. Then Through its United Front system, they connect with the organization and try to expand its agenda to the United States. That's similar to Confucius Institute in different universities.
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So our universities are certainly under scrutiny, I would say now, that all kinds of money that, well, first of all, the federal government has given them. I know in Colorado, state government gives the universities and colleges money. And then, of course, there's tuition. And then I've apparently China has influenced colleges and universities curriculum by giving money to our colleges and universities. It's pretty there's a there's really a web on this indoctrination of our kids. And do you think we're going to get this walked back?
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The most dangerous part is the university has different research projects that are very advanced. And some of those research projects are related to military. And so China would send its students, sometimes not students, military staff disguised as citizens, and come here and study or partner with those labs and would sponsor money and participate in the work in those labs but the true purpose is to help advance its own military so right now i think the war the tariff war is not a trade war in my opinion it's not a trade war we have shift so much wealth to China. And if the money is to make people have a better life, that will be, I think, will be okay. I mean, it's weakening America. It's not sustainable, but it's not so dangerous. But China actually The Communist Party control majority of the money. They use the money to advance military. And communist, their number one goal is to beat America, because it sees the existence and even the concept of freedom as the number one threat. So when they build the military, it's a real threat to America. So it's a national security issue. It's not just a trade issue.
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Wow. So is Trump being effective with these tariffs?
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I think Trump is clear about this, that Communist Party is not a normal human party. Communist is a very different concept. I don't think American government or people understand communist system well. So the communist can do many different things you cannot predict.
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Well, in Dr. Dana Chang, we have had so many products manufactured in China. And I know that these electrical or electric transformers, these big transformers, many of them have been manufactured in China. And so there could be things in those transformers that that could flip them off which if those things went down people in america would die there are people that would die so what what do you say about the way that we have all these chinese products in our country some of them for really critical things that china could ultimately control yes um it is dangerous um they have tried to infiltrate into our utility system
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But China, the CCP itself, has been facing internal crisis. Its military generals keep missing. It's like generals appointed by Xi Jinping have been missing from the public, right? seriously unified internally, the communist is facing pressure both internally and internationally. It depends on, you know, it's not as strong as it looks, but it's very evil. It can do, like, things Western countries cannot imagine. So it's very important that We have to gradually decouple from communist system.
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Is that one of the things that you think Trump's trying to accomplish with these tariffs?
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Well, he understand the danger, but at this point it's not easy to decouple. It is not, but we must do it. Yes. At least at the critical industry. those that would affect, for example, our health and the military-related.
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So those would be the place to start. Right. So what about the people of China with this upheaval there? Are they going hungry? What does that look like, Dr. Chang?
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They suffer a lot, and... Recently, we reported that many business owners escaped China because when the government are running short of money, they would take money from the private companies. It sounds crazy, but that's the reality. So it's not getting to that point that people stop to death, but it's It's rolling back to almost like 20-some years ago.
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I'm going to change subjects just a little bit. Last week, I had Virginia Maka on with Stand for the Land Kansas, and she brought something to my attention was regarding the components that are manufactured in China for, I have it in air quotes, green energy. So, for example, solar panels or wind turbines. Things that are manufactured in China, actually, from a human rights standpoint, some of it's being manufactured by slave labor. For example, the Uyghurs in northwest China. What's your comments on that?
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The largest pool of slave labor has been Falun Gong practitioners. So Falun Gong is a peaceful meditation. In China, it was widely spread, and government at that point was actually encouraging that. But later on, when it was so popular, communist leaders got very scared because communists would not allow anything, even jogging. or bird watching group, they get big. So it started to arrest large group of Falun Gong practitioners. They have been thrown to labor camp. And in labor camp, they were forced to do manufacture. And I had a friend who work on like a Christmas gift and products inside the labor camp. That's the largest scale of slave labor.
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So that's one of the reasons why things can be manufactured in China at lesser cost is because really of human rights, that if you're using slave labor, you can actually create a product that's cost less, yes? Yes, yes. That's part of the reason. Okay. I was just thinking of, I have Christmas decorations that I love, and I see that they're made in China. I think I'm going to look at them differently, Dr. Chang.
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This 90-day pause of trade war is exactly the time window that China can export a Christmas gift. Right now, they are trying to seize this 90-day pause pause this time window to export the Christmas gift.
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Because that's a big market for American consumers, huh? Right, right. So what should we do as American consumers regarding this issue?
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You know, I'm from China. I'm sympathetic with Chinese people. They are ordinary people. They deserve a better life. But on the other hand, I think America can understand the evil of communists better. So in its policy, in its decision, and especially the high and part of the business people need to understand that so that we are not going to get caught in the system.
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So, Dr. Dana Chang, you are a very courageous voice. And as the senior editor of China News and also one of the co-founders of the Epoch Times, you are really a courageous voice out there. What's your final thought that you'd like to leave with our listeners today? And I thank you for being our guest today.
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I'm... i'm very grateful to this country and we should be proud of this country and we should be proud of the like being the leader of the free world um we have the responsibility to help free chinese people and which is try to
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take down communist party okay so yeah communism and liberty cannot exist in the same spot and liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom and that is the foundation of this great american idea dr chang thank you so much i greatly appreciate you joining us thank you amazing conversations are really amazing and they happen because of sponsors for everything mortgages reach out to lauren levy
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And Memorial Day is right around the corner. And it will be, I highly recommend take some time on Memorial Day to stop and reflect about those that gave their lives for our liberty. And a couple of different things you could do is, and you know that I totally support these two nonprofits. The Center for American Values is non-political, it's non-partisan. They just focus on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And they do so through their Portraits of Valor, which is over 160 portraits of Medal of Honor recipients with their quotes. They put those quotes into a book, and you can buy that by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. It's a great tool to have to be able to talk with your children, your grandchildren. about this this whole american idea but the center for american values also has great educational programs k through 12 and then there are on values presentations and there will be an on values presentation on the 28th of may in honor memorial day and you can get more information about that by going to americanvaluecenter.org that's americanvaluecenter.org On Memorial Day, the USMC Memorial Foundation will be hosting an event out at the memorial at 2 o'clock. And they're planning on World War II Iwo Jima veterans Jim Blaine and Al Jennings to be there. And I was out at the golf tournament last week for the memorial and saw both Jim and Al. I'm really honored to get to meet them. So, again, congratulations. You don't get to shake the hands of World War II veterans very often. So all that information is at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And let's see here. I think we asked many of the questions that came in on the text line. And home rule, I know that a number of cities, we talked about home rule earlier. Question for Douglas County. There's only two other counties that have home rule in the state at this particular point in time. And so we wanted to do a pro and a con on that. And Commissioner George Teal was the pro and David Iyer was the against. And so that was a spirited discussion. And let's see here. Next thing, somebody called in and wanted some information regarding Tina Peters. And she is now at the La Vista facility in Pueblo. And my understanding is it is very helpful to get some money to her so that she can purchase things at the commissary. I've heard that the food is just terrible. And so there's several different ways you could do that. And I've just been thinking about it. You can actually go to Colorado Department of Corrections and you could go to the La Vista facility. And I think that you could give money to put into her account there. I think that there's a problem with too much going there, though, because we certainly don't want a situation where others might, for whatever reason, take it out on her. So I think probably... If you want to help her, I would recommend that you go to TinaPeters.us. That looks like that's her website. And you can make a contribution there. And then I think that they can get funds over to her as need be. And President Trump, this is on his radar. And she really is, I think, a political prisoner. She was sentenced to nine years in prison. And the judge would not let her. She's appealing that. And the judge would not let her post bail while this was under appeal. But yet we have catch and release of people that have come here illegally and committed crimes on many times. And so this just doesn't match up. But that website, again, is TinaPeters.us. And that's probably a good spot right now where you can help her. and this is going to be really interesting to see what happens. She was in a situation that it was really, in a way, a no-win situation. The state of Colorado has in place in election law and rules and regulations a lot of stuff that is of great concern. But one of those, again, this is my understanding, is that county clerks, do not have access to the voting tabulating machines in their county. That seems like that's something that they should have access to. And Jenna Griswold, a Secretary of State, she is now a candidate for Attorney General, her office was going to have, I have this in air quotes, a trusted build. where basically coming in, updating, and Tina was concerned that with that update, some of the previous records might be overwritten or might be erased. And under federal law, she is to make sure that those records are maintained for at least, I think it's 24 months, right around there. I think Colorado law, it's 27 months. I have to ask why these records aren't kept for a lot longer so that we could go back and look at these elections. That's just a question that I have. But anyway, this was within that 24-month time frame. And so she was concerned. And so what happened was I would say she was a – and I think that's where the real issue is. She needed to get in to get access to these records so that she was preserving these records. And my understanding is that the judge would not allow this information to be brought out in her trial, which you have to question that. So anyway, but it was somewhat unconventional what they had to do to get access to that. And it's a process. It's a policy. And I think she was convicted on process and policy questions. And so if you want to help her, and again, a caller had reached in, TinaPeters.us. That's TinaPeters.us. This came in from Jenny. She said that we need to be calling Polis every day to exonerate Tina Peters, and that number is 303-866-2471. 303-866-2471. So that's also something that could be done to help her as well. And certainly have her in your prayers for... for strength and wisdom as well. We've got a little bit of time to go through another headline, which is really important. As you know, Governor Polis signed House Bill 1312, which is the bill, the transgender bill, the radical activist extreme transgender bill. And this is from Fox News. It says Colorado parent groups sue the state over controversial new transgender law enforcing compelled speech. And it says Colorado potentially faces a major lawsuit regarding this. It says on this last Friday, Governor Polis signed into law House Bill 1312. It's a bill that expands state anti-discrimination protections for transgender individuals by allowing a person's chosen name, to qualify as a form of gender expression that is protected under the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act. And now that the bill's passed, the group defending education has sued the state on behalf of the Do No Harm, The Colorado Parent Advocacy Network. Congratulations to Lori Gimmelstein and her whole team over there. And Protect Kids Colorado. And congratulations to Kevin Lundberg and to Aaron Lee on this. Groups out of concerns that the law could violate their free speech rights. And it says the new definition of gender expression is unconstitutionally overbroad. The lawsuit provided to Fox News Digital reads because it covers any treatment based on the use of a chosen name or other forms of preferred address. It punishes many forms of constitutionally protected speech. And it says it continues, when speakers refer to transgender-identifying individuals using biologically accurate terms, they advance a viewpoint about a hot-button political issue, gender ideology. And that kind of speech lies at the core of the First Amendment. But it says, but the act's definition of gender expression makes all such speech discriminatory and unlawful. And so Colorado, I think, really is at the tip of the spear of all of the stuff that's going on. And we had somebody that texted in on this. Let me get to the text line. Gosh, here we go. They said that... that they were reading something from Seth Cashall that said that Colorado is the only state in the union that has not been growing the Republican Party. And I think that we have to realize that this just didn't happen overnight. This has been happening, unfortunately, with the Republican Party. For some time, Kent Theory, all the things he's doing regarding elections, all of this is connected. And we will continue to discuss all of this because we must reclaim this state. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is a liberty versus force issue, a freedom versus force issue. So we will continue the discussion on all of this. And the quote for the end of the show from Zoran Kierkegaard is this. And he said that life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced. So, my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Join Angie Austin as she welcomes the remarkable Rachel Kerr Schneider, who discusses her new book, 'The Widow Chose Red.' Rachel opens up about her husband John's brave battle against ALS and how a rallying community, anchored in faith, helped carry them through. With candor and compassion, Rachel shares touching anecdotes of the love that triumphed over adversity and how her journey inspires hope and healing in the face of life's most challenging moments. This heartfelt conversation is a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the profound impact of spiritual belief.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News. Really excited to have back Rachel Kerr Schneider. She is here to talk about her book, The Widow Chose Red, My Journey with Jesus, John, and ALS. Thanks so much for joining us again, Rachel. Oh, Angie, thank you for having me. Now, I know we had something exciting happen right after we spoke last week, that Patty Aubrey, who is the New York Times bestselling author of Chicken Soup for the Christian Soul, came to a big book party you were having. So tell me how all this went, the launch and having Patty there, et cetera. How was the last week?
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Oh, Angie, thank you so much for asking. Actually, it was a week ago today that we held the launch party here outside of Dallas, Texas. And, yes, Patty did. She was kind enough to work me into her busy, busy schedule. And we had a wonderful crowd attend, a lot of people who have known John and then, of course, a lot of people who know me and did not know John. But the wonderful thing about it is that Patty was able to lend her support. We've known each other for over 13 years. I had met her on a retreat once. And, of course, she works with Jack Canfield. And they developed the Chicken Soup for the Soul series along with Mark Victor Hansen, which was a very, very popular series of books, inspirational books. And so I had met Patty at a retreat, a workshop with Jack. And interestingly enough, Angie, I still have my workbook from that retreat, which was 13 years ago. Oh, wow. took me through an exercise on how to write a book and diagrammed the whole thing out. And I have that framed with a picture of Jack holding the diagram, which is, you know, it's so interesting how when God puts a calling or a dream in our heart, how it will stay there. And we may think that it's not going to happen or it may not happen on the timeline that we have. have prepared for ourselves, but I'm a testimony to the fact that when God does give us a story and when He does give us a calling and He does put something in our heart, He will make a way for it to happen. So here I am, you know, 13 years later, I would have never imagined that Patty would write the foreword, that Patty would be here in person. He just goes above and beyond our expectations in such an amazing way. And so, yes, and I also had a representative from the Live Like Lou Foundation because proceeds from the book are going to benefit this foundation, which was started by a man who was diagnosed with ALS, an attorney. And he was determined to leave ALS better than he found it. So this foundation operates in three platforms. It provides scholarships to young children who lose a parent to ALS. It also partners with the fraternity that Lou Gehrig was a part of, which is Phi Delta Theta. And these young men go and do service projects for families who have ALS. And then, of course, it provides money for the research, which is so important because what they believe is that if they can figure out what will unlock the secrets of this mysterious and deadly disease, it will also help with other neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson's and Huntington's and Alzheimer's.
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Oh, my goodness. Okay, so that was exciting. And to have all these friends that you, you know, live near, you know, from the Dallas area, and that you've been friends with for many, many years, exciting to have them there. And then, like you mentioned, John's friends as well. And we're going to recap your story of The Widow Chose Red, My Journey with Jesus, John and ALS. If you're just hearing Rachel for the first time, she lost her husband to ALS, and she had two boys when he was diagnosed who were 10 and 14, and she had to raise them after he passed. So how long were you considering this book? How long ago was he diagnosed?
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So John was diagnosed 17 years ago. And he was a straight line decline. And it was three years. He was diagnosed in September of 08. And he passed in September of 11. So it was pretty much right at three years. The timeline for most patients is two to five. That hasn't changed. And since his diagnosis 17 years ago, they are still no closer. They don't have anything to help treat this. It's basically a death sentence, and you just manage the progression and the decline of your body.
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Unbelievable that after 17 years we're no closer to, you know, a cure or even better treatment. And I was going to tell you yesterday I did an interview about – the devotion called Beyond Imagination. My girlfriend's written 14 books, and she wrote this devotional called Fresh Hope for Today, Devotions for Joy on the Journey, Grace Fox. And I just thought it was kind of coincidental when you were talking about your prayers coming true and 13 years ago, wanting to write this book, feeling called to write this book. And Here, 13 years later, you're with, you know, after you took the photo with Jack Canfield, you're also with Patty Aubrey, who wrote, who is the author of Christians, pardon me, Chicken Soup for the Christian Soul. Okay, so my point is, what we talked about yesterday is her devotion called Beyond Imagination. And then her prayer says, God, please answer my prayers in a way beyond imagination and bringing glory to your name. And her story was very different from yours. They were in Heathrow Airport. There'd been a lot of fog. She had to find some of the people who were working for her missions nonprofit. And they were going to a conference in Slovakia. So she had to find her niece and her cousin's kid or whatever. And she's like, I'm never going to find him in here. You know, we're in Heathrow. It's overwhelmed with the fog. And how is this going to work? And I've got to help these younger people. And she said somebody turned in line in front of her in a giant like Disney World line when you're trying to get through customs. And it was her niece. And she was like, you know, I prayed and God answered my prayers beyond my imagination. She says there were hundreds of thousands of people that day. She goes, I don't know if you've been in Heathrow, but it's enormous. And so anyway, I just love the idea of praying for things that are beyond your imagination that the Lord can answer. And that's what you were saying about your book.
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Yes. And I love the title of her book because You're absolutely right. God answers in ways that are absolutely beyond our imagination and beyond our comprehension. And, you know, even when we are suffering and we don't see a way out and we don't even know what to pray for anymore, you know, that's when that Holy Spirit that lives inside of us, that's when we can activate this supernatural superpower that we all have. to say, okay, Lord, I don't understand this. I don't know what even to pray for. I'm so overwhelmed with what's going on in my life. So Holy Spirit, please intercede for me and make my heart, make my requests known to my Heavenly Father. And He does. And so it is, I love that analogy. And thank you for sharing that, Angie, because Beyond imagination, that's what our Heavenly Father is all about. He will take care of us beyond our wildest expectations.
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Now, Rachel, for the people who didn't hear you last week, let's give a recap of your story, having the two boys and your husband was traveling all over the country for his work. And how many times did you move and how many years before he was diagnosed? Yes.
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We were together, John and I met and got married in Dallas. We were together for 24 years. We had two sons who, as you mentioned earlier, they were 10 and 14 when their dad died. I was known as the trailing spouse. John was climbing the corporate ladder, which I'm sure a lot of your listeners can relate to, and we relocated together. Actually, it was seven times in 15 years. So I was less than two years at most places that we were at. We started in Dallas, went to Philadelphia, then to Seattle, then to San Francisco, then back to Dallas, then up to Chicago, then back to Dallas, and then to Minnesota. Wow. And, you know, each time... You know, as the mom, as the wife, you're creating that home, and it's a lot of work, and it can be a little isolating, too, because you're in these new areas. You're trying to find a new community. You're trying to find a new church. Oh, you're trying to find somebody to do your hair. I mean, it's just, you know. Yes, a doctor.
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Yes, doctors and hair and nails and churches. Yeah. And just a friend, maybe, you know. At our age, it's more difficult to make friends. I mean, you're from the South, and it's easier, I think, for Southerners to make friends, to be honest with you. But at our age, it is more difficult to make friends. A lot of my good friends are from my 20s. Yes.
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Yes. And, you know, I am thankful because my boys, I will tell you this because it would have been very easy for me to just curl up in a fetal position after going through three years of this illness with my husband and watching him literally wither away. But I had these two young boys that I needed to, I needed to be present for every single day. And, you know, their grief expressed itself in different ways as well. My oldest son, John, went down a path of drugs, and we then entered a journey in rehab, which is what my second book will be about. My youngest son, Jake, coped very differently. He threw himself into sports. If it had a ball, he was there. Baseball, softball, football, you name it, lacrosse, he just sank himself right into that, and that was... how he coped. And so, you know, these boys, growing up without that father figure, you know, we're not designed, Angie. I wasn't designed to step into that role. I'm a mom. I was created to be the mom, right? So it was a difficult journey. I'm pleased and so grateful because today they are young men who are, you know, working, taking care of themselves. One of them, John, even has two little ones. So it's just a testimony to how our God works and how he sees us through. But I will tell you that the whole addiction thing was something I had no experience with. And once again, I was finding myself in a place after having taken care of my husband and been told there's nothing we can do, absolutely nothing. And then, you know, my son, who as a mother, we're called to nurture, protect, and care for, you know, I was trying everything on the other end of the spectrum, you name it, whether it was, you know, outward bound intervention, all in-house counseling, outpatient counseling, you know, relocation, you name it. I sent him to Australia to be with my parents and my brother thinking that even, you know, a male influence might be helpful. But Those adolescent years are difficult for both girls and boys, and there's a lot going on there that sometimes we can figure out and then a lot of times we can't, and they can be challenging for all of us.
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Now, in terms of – I have so many questions I want to ask you, so I'm going to keep you around for another segment so we can take the whole show. In terms of the book coming to fruition, The Widow Chose Red – How long you had to raise your boys, you had to get through the grief, you had to, you know, your deal with the changing relationship with your husband and then him passing away and like restarting without him because you'd trailed him all those years. So when did you start working on the book?
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Well, I have notes and entries from my journals that go back to the time. I don't even know, Angie, how I was doing that. But I was keeping a journal that I, you know, it was haphazard at best. I'd go for weeks and not write. And then I'd come back and go, okay, let me catch you up with this is what's going on and so on and so forth. So that was helpful. I also kept a lot of notes from when the caretakers, when we had home care for John and I would be exchanging notes with them about how John was doing and what care he was getting. And, you know, it was just, I just, and I had taken some writing courses. I had been to some seminars. I had been keeping up with the story in my mind.
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And I do remember, we have to take a break, but I do remember you saying that you took a lot of notes. So obviously that helped you. We're going to be right back with Rachel Kirschneider, The Widow Chose Red, My Journey with Jesus, John, and ALS. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to The Good News with Angie Austin, joined by Rachel Kirschneider. We're talking about her book, The Widow Chose Red, My Journey with Jesus, John, and ALS. Talking about her husband being diagnosed with ALS 17 years ago. Her boys were 10 and 14 then. He passed away three years later. And she'd gone to a really neat Jack Canfield chicken soup for the soul. And she met also the author of of Chicken Soup for the Christian Soul, Patty Aubrey, 13 years ago. And here she is 13 years later having her book launch and Patty came out and you had the picture with Jack Canfield because you were taught how to write a book way back when. And so now it's out 17 years after your husband died. was diagnosed at 14 years right after he passed away. Yes. And the boys are raised, and you're going to have the next book on how your older son dealt with the grief and how he went down the addiction path, and your younger son went down the sports path, just staying busy with the teammates, et cetera. So we were talking about how you took all these notes while your husband was sick, and that ended up turning into the book. How long did it take you to write the book?
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Well, once I got serious about it, Angie, it took me about eight months. No, it's not. And, and here's the important thing. If anyone out there is thinking about writing their story or wanting to do that, we now have so much technology available to us that allows this process to go much easier. You know, you can, you can speak it into a transcription, you can record it, have it transcribed for you. There's so much that's available now. It's that makes it so much easier to deal with. Um, And so for me, I know that doing the second book, which is going to be The Boys, The Bible, and The Battles, I know that that will probably be easier, although the topic is still going to be very difficult to go back to those days. And I think that was probably one of the things I wasn't really ready for as I wrote this book, even though John's been gone for 14 years, ALS is still just as brutal as it ever was. So putting myself back in that place and also partnering again with another foundation and being aware of what's been going on and people that are still to this day and seeing young people who are diagnosed at the ages of 23 and 27 and watching them. You know, social media makes it so that we can connect with others in the community. And I think that's why I felt so moved to get this book out, because I know that there are so many out there who feel alone, who feel isolated, who are still grieving, and who are still trying to process the trauma of this brutal disease. And so that was the way that I felt that I could that I could share and support and inspire, whether it's ALS or any other kind of diagnosis or challenge that you might have in your life. I wanted to be able to lend some support and some confidence and remind you of that special supernatural power that you hold inside of you with the Holy Spirit.
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Now, we talked before about how you were living in Minnesota at the time, and you were thinking about moving back to Dallas because you had such a community there. But you stayed in Minnesota, and it ended up being really wonderful, the support that your boys received, et cetera. During that time, how did all of the relationships and the family change there? And I know that you were already a woman of faith, a strong faith. How did your relationship with your husband, but how did all the relationships in the family change during that three-year journey as you were saying that your husband took that straight line deterioration with the ALS?
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Well, it did change very much so in that I think it's difficult when you're watching someone with an illness. Of course, everyone wants to weigh in on what they think is the best way to handle a situation. And a lot of times you can get run over with the wrong kind of help. And it's so important to really determine what kind of help you need and how to get it. It's also important to realize, too, that you need to be able to accept help, but accepting the right kind of help is important too. I found that John and I really had to be in agreement more so than ever on how he wanted to make this journey. And those were conversations that the two of us had to have and keep having. And I found that a lot of times I just really had to help the family honor his wishes and That is what was so important. And, you know, as I said earlier, when you're a mom or a dad, you feel like I don't care how old your child gets to be, you really want to go in and protect them and tell them what they should do or how they should do it. And yet I think all of us at some point reached this point where we said, okay, John, we have to honor what John wants and how he wants to do this because ending well for all of us needs to be something that we get to choose. And how we choose to end it can give us a great sense of peace and allow us to exit this world in a way that that leave the legacy and how we want to be remembered. So that was really important. John wanted to be at home. We did access hospice six months before he died because we knew. that they would provide services that would help me in giving care. And I think that's one of the things, too, Angie, that I want people to recognize is hospice doesn't have to be bad. Those individuals are trained and there to help and support the whole family in a lot of different ways. And a lot of times I think we make the mistake of waiting way too long to utilize what hospice can provide.
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Now, an interesting twist of fate, I understand, is that your husband, John, who had ALS, that his brother also died of a terminal illness, and that was ahead of John's passing. And so were there any lessons learned there? Did it help prepare you? I mean, it seems like it would just be even more sorrow just heaped onto your husband's family and your family with losing his brother of a terminal illness as well.
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Yes, and Ronald had died at the age of 40, just shy of his 40th birthday. And, you know, my mother-in-law, Elaine, is just a study in resilience. Wow. You know, and Ronald was a real go-getter as well, both John and Ronald, although very different. were very successful in their respective careers. Ronald was in real estate, both a broker and a realtor. We actually were at SMU at the same time together, although we didn't know each other. Oh, wow.
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Oh, you were at SMU. Oh, my best friend's daughter is just leaving a few months to go there. Just a little sidebar there, yes.
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Okay, so you were... Yes, she'll love it. She will absolutely love it. But yes, I think Ronald... What we learned from Ronald's passing, once again, I was in charge of doing the celebration of life services for Ronald and then for John, and I thought that both of these guys would have left some set of instructions because they were so much in control of so many other things in their work life and so forth, and yet I was operating... more so than John because, of course, I've been married to John and been with him. But Ronald's service was kind of like, okay, how do you figure this out for somebody who's not necessarily attending church? You know, all of those things that a lot of people are probably finding themselves dealing with, too, because we're in such a mobile society and a lot of people don't have the church communities, you know, that we used to 20 or 30 years ago because we're all over the place. But Losing Ronald, I never dreamed that we'd suffer another loss with his brother. It never entered my mind. I'm sure it didn't. No, no. But the similarities in how they handled their illnesses and how they reached out to try experimental programs, it's really a testimony to both of them and their courage.
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I am. I have a girlfriend. She's a pastor. And I met her because she was on my show when I first started it. So probably like 13 years ago. And Dawn Wanzer, she came in with her sons who were severely handicapped. They've been fine till about the age of five and a really rare progression where they ended up unable to speak. you know, still mentally there, but unable to speak, unable to feed themselves, you know, unable to go to the bathroom. They've lost their ability to walk. So they were both in wheelchairs. And when the older one passed away, maybe early twenties, then the, the, the little one, he, he was so, Jake was so sad that, and, you know, he couldn't, he couldn't say anything about how sad he was. He just, you know, He just withered away after he lost his brother. So I'm like, oh, my goodness. I cannot believe that Kevin and Dawn have lost both their boys within a short time of each other. And I interviewed her on the show a few years ago about what happened after that, because I have never in my life see someone that the Lord made more perfect. perfectly to be a caregiver. It was mind blowing to me. I mean, I just could not even, I've never seen anything like the way she'd look in their eyes and she'd put them on the ground and they lift them out and she'd gaze into their eyes and like tickle their little noses. And Jake's eyes were just sparkle. And so that was her life caring for them. Okay. Yes. I'm going to start to cry. Yeah, I know. I realized that Dawn was sick. And I thought, well, she can't possibly die. Kevin and Dawn have been together for 34 years and their relationship did not suffer. They're soulmates. Like they're so in love with each other. It's crazy. And he came over to do some electrical work for me and she came to the door with him and I'm like, oh my gosh, extra bonus. Like I got you too. And she goes, well, not everybody gets me too when it comes to do electrical jobs. And we sat in the living room, we talked for three hours about the boys and the whole journey. And shortly after that, I found out she was sick. Well, she died about a month ago, and I could not wrap my head around how he could lose his entire family, both of his boys, like approximately like teenager and early 20s, the boys, and then his wife, who was like mid-50s maybe. And I just and I, you know, I've been in touch with him and just the sorrow and all of his posts. And I just don't even know how you survive any of these things without the Lord. Like, how do you get through it? And that's really what your book is about, isn't it? That you knew the Lord was real because you felt him alongside you during this journey.
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Yes. And and he became more more real to me than ever than ever before. And I do believe Angie. And you've got me in tears. because I do believe that it's through our suffering, and we don't know why, right? There's no rational explanation that we could give to Kevin, that we could give to my boys. And that's the hardest thing, right? Why? Why? And yet, you know, we know, Angie, look how Jesus suffered on our behalf. So who are we to think that we would get through this life unscathed? You know, there is always a reason, although we may not be able to figure it out. But, you know, Kevin is still here. Your friend Kevin is still here. There's a reason that he's still here. And his life is still a testimony to all that God has brought him through. And we have no idea what's still in store for him, right? Just like I had no idea what was still in store for me, but it is. And you are right. It is only through having that belief. I don't know how people do it if they don't know Jesus, if they don't know the power of the Trinity, you know, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. So thank you for sharing that because all of us, all of us have our crosses to bear. and all of us will experience some pain and suffering. You're just not going to get through life without it.
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And what I appreciate, we're almost out of time, is that you were able to step through your pain again to help others in writing The Widow Chose Red, My Journey with Jesus, John, and ALS. Rachel Kirschneider, give us your website before we run out of time.
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Yes, it's spiritedprosperity.com.
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spiritedprosperity.com. Thank you, friends. I already feel like we're friends. Thanks so much for joining me on The Good News.
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Angie, thank you. Godspeed. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.