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Join professional money manager Bill Gunderson and analyst Barry Kite in this insightful episode as they discuss the latest highs in the NASDAQ, Dow, and S&P 500. Delve into the dynamics behind a robust consumer market, the persistent growth in retail sales, and what this means for potential rate cuts by the Federal Reserve. Stay tuned as they explore emerging investment opportunities and critical economic reports that are shaping the market landscape today.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager, Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome to the Thursday, the July 17th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. This is Bill Gunderson, professional money manager for the last 25 years and president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst and certified financial planner. We do have green in the market across the screen today. NASDAQ hitting a new all-time high. It's up another 44 basis points this morning which puts it at 20,821. I've never said that before. That's a new all-time high. The Dow is up 146. It's creeping up on its all-time high. The Dow is at 44,400. The S&P is up 18 right now. I want to say that's a new all-time high. I'm pretty sure it is.
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The Russell 2000 is up 18 points right now. The bond market is very quiet so far here this morning after a much better than expected rally. retail sales report the consumer is still robust in their spending habits and we have the 10-year right now sitting at 4.2 4.43 so we're about even with where we were yesterday crude oils at 65.32 gold continues to slip down another one percent today And Bitcoin, a little bit of profit taking again today, down 328 to 118.372 just a skosh away from its recent high. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our Chartered Financial Analyst and our Certified Financial Planner. And we have new highs again today in the NASDAQ for sure and in the S&P 500. Not the Dow quite yet. We had a decent day yesterday in the market. But today we've had some economic reports that have come out. on the nation's economy. Of course, we've had a couple of benign inflation reports. Unless you listen to Bloomberg or CNBC or one of the other outlets, inflation is back, okay, according to them. But that's not keeping the market from hitting new all-time highs. They call 2.7% inflation is back.
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Read the article, not just the headline.
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Yeah, exactly. The NASDAQ and the S&P all-time highs. Now today, you know, look, the consumer drives the economy. And I'm pointing at you, all of you listening to the show. I don't know how much you've spent so far this morning. But the consumer, for the most part, drives the vast majority of the economy. Retail sales rise more than expected, reflecting a strong consumer. Well, you know, that's a good thing. The Fed probably looks at that, starts chewing their fingernails and says, here comes inflation with all of this demand out there from the strong consumer. And I don't know. You'll have to tell me what the percent chance of a rate cut at the next meeting is. And when is the next meeting, Barry? Yeah, it's low. There's so many things to keep up on.
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Yeah, it's about, I had some numbers at the beginning of the week where I think we're about, essentially about, I think it was a 60% chance cut, not at this meeting, but there'll be a cut by two meetings from now. So basically no chance of a cut. I think it's a July meeting, but.
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Yeah, and if there's not one, then they'll have a cut at the Fed with Jerome Powell being cut and replaced. Although Trump says, no, he's okay. We're going to leave him in there for now. But he's doing a lousy job, basically, is what he said. He does have a good point. Europe's cut 10 times. To our zero, okay, somebody is late, and that's what he calls them, too late, too late, pal. So anyways, that's where we kind of stand with that rate cut. And with the hot retail sales report, that's not going to really help things. If anything, that lowers the chances. Good news is bad news as far as the Fed's concerned. Well, you know what? I would just say one other thing that's not going to help us to get a rate cut is the hot job market. You see the initial jobless claims, which we report every Thursday, 221,000. They fell by 7,000 from last week. They unexpectedly fall in the past week. The jobs market, the labor market, remains very strong. The consumer is very strong and the stock market is very strong with the Dow creeping up on a new all-time high. The NASDAQ hitting a new all-time high. The S&P 500 hitting a new all-time high. Bitcoin hit 120 earlier this week. That was a new all-time high. Gold hit a new all-time high a while back at 3400. It's kind of been floundering, though, here recently. Okay, well, we've got a lot of news here today in the market, a lot of earnings news, a lot of news on this company and that company, a lot of individual stock news. We've had some big earnings reports here this morning. We've had some secondary offerings by some hot stocks. That's a pattern you see. A stock gets a lot of attention and everybody's gushing over it. In this case, it's MP Materials out of the Mountain Pass area of California. Everybody talking about it. It's the talk of the town with the Pentagon investing in it and the Apple investing in it. And now they go out and do a secondary offering, and they float more shares, which dilutes everybody. But, you know, you've got to get it while it's hot. And there must be something there. I mean, they're already mining rare earth and bringing it up out of the ground there. But there must be some pretty good prospects for them to attract these two big investments from the U.S. government and from Apple, of all places. Who would have ever thought?
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refining it into magnets and uh you know gm i think they're about to i know they've got a deal with gm where they're you know in in the process of uh you know of working with them in terms of getting them some magnets all we've heard about lately is magnets and uh and they're uh they're on the they're on the cusp so
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Yeah, I'm going to be real careful. I've got some magnets on my refrigerator and whatnot. Those are worth some dough, I guess. I'll just hang on to them. Maybe they'll go up in value. A lot of deals being made today. A lot of companies in the news. We mentioned MP Materials here. Lucid shares rally on Uber-RoboTaxi partnership. Now, how many Lucids do you think? Well, who knows? Maybe you'll be getting into a Lucid. In the Bay Area or in the Phoenix area or in the San Francisco or in the Austin, Texas area or the Atlanta area, those seem to be the four robo-taxi hubs right now. And I witnessed the ones, the Waymos running all over the hills of San Francisco. I hope we're loosed right now. I hope we're lucid right now. Yeah, I hope we are lucid. I try. I get a couple of Mountain Dews in the morning. But anyways, they're taking on Waymo. They're taking on Tesla. They're taking on others. Those are some big competitors up there. But that's a good partnership for them to partner with Uber. to develop the next generation premium global robotaxi using neuro-autonomous vehicle technology. Okay, can you explain that one? Neuro-equipped technological capabilities. There are separately Lucid announced plans for a one-for-ten stock split. You know, that's never the sign of a good thing. A reverse split, that's what they do with these inverse funds. The NASDAQ's been going up for so long, the inverse NASDAQ has been getting clobbered, and they have to do a reverse split all the time going the other way. When it gets down to $0.32, they do a 100-for-1 split, and it's back to $32. But, of course, you own one-hundredth of the shares that you owned before. So, anyways, Lucid not doing so good on their actual car sales and profitability. But maybe this robo-taxi. Let's just check in. You know who has a big investment in Lucid? It's Saudi Arabia. And that's another robo-taxi hub. Yeah, that's another big robo-taxi hub is over there in Abu Dhabi and Dubai and Saudi Arabia. Well, Lucid's up 31% today on that news. on 14 times normal volume with the partnership with Uber. Let's see how Uber's doing. Now, Uber, I would rather own Uber than Lucid myself. Uber is down a half a percent so far. Okay, when we come back, another form of transportation, which I think has huge potential, I really do. You know, when you think of all the one-hour trips and the two-hour trips that you make, Wouldn't you rather just get into a vertical taxi and take off and land and go right over all the traffic? I see a big future there. And there is some new news from one of the big players there. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the Best Stocks Now show. Let's just take a quick look inside the internals of the market, the guts of the market, and see what's moving at a higher here today. We've got Pepsi. How about that? A sore underperformer versus the S&P over the years. It's up 6.2%. It's the biggest winner in the S&P 500. Snap-on tools, you know what, not exactly a growth stock. It's up 5.3%. Oracle's up 3.3%. There's talk of merger in the railroad sector, Barry. Union Pacific is on the prowl, looking to gobble up another one. They're looking at CSX, which is up 3.3%. When you look at, like, the Lionel trains, which are all labeled with what they were at one time, you know, like Baltimore and Ohio and Delaware this and Pennsylvania that, there's really only, what, three or four left. They've all been consolidated, right? Over the years, CSX, Union Pacific, Canadian National, Canadian Pacific, I believe, CP. And that's about it. And I guess Amtrak. We may be losing. I don't know what. Maybe all those CSX locomotives might be worth some money if they get bought out and say, oh, I still got one with the old CSX logo. And they did color changes along the way, and I mean, pretty interesting history there of the railroads. Okay, now, let's jump right over a railroad, okay? We can, I looked into taking the, I did it once. I took the, we have, the Amtrak goes from Charleston to Tampa. It's 12 hours, okay? You know, it's 7 to drive. It's 12 hours on the train. The only advantage is you got a little desk to work at. I was on the Internet writing my newsletter and everything, and I have lunch. They have a little snack bar. But 12 hours, it's not a very efficient time. I'm sure it was back when you had a buggy with a horse and a whip and everything and the railroads came along or pushing hand carts to Utah or whatever and here come the railroads. I'm sure it was a big boon back then, but in today's world, now we want to get into a vertical aircraft and fly right over it. Right over the traffic, especially if you're in Los Angeles, the 405 and the 5. Of course, it's not so great here in our area at 5 p.m. on the 26 going to Atlanta or on the 526 coming into Mount Pleasant. We've got some pretty bad traffic around here. And I do think there's a big future for the vertical. The vertical. Okay, it's one thing to get into a robo-taxi ride and to go downtown. But, Barry, you know, like my wife, we have a family. We have kids that live in Columbia, South Carolina, which is the... capital and uh pretty much a booming area but it also has fort jackson where my son-in-law one of my son-in-laws is an officer there at fort jackson and that's a tough drive i mean the columbia is a tough drive it's two two hours but and pretty much two lanes four lanes the whole way but you only got two on one side so yeah becomes an issue And the trucks, okay, with the harbor that we have here in Charleston, they offload all of those containers and most of them go by truck, some by railroad. There's a big railroad yard too here. But most get loaded on a truck and they get on that road headed for Atlanta, the 26th. And man, it's a dangerous road to drive on with those trucks whipping in and out. And then my wife was coming home the other day and you know how these storms come out of nowhere. Lightning and hail and rain. It took her four and a half hours for a two hour trip. Well, I don't imagine it would be much better in the vertical aerospace getting into a hail and lightning storm, but vertical aerospace, EVTL, right? The first, it's out of the UK, and I've also been noticing pretty good action here in Joby Aviation. Vertical completed the world's first airport-to-airport piloted flight by a full-scale winged, Tiltrotor EVTOL, that's vertical takeoff, designed for commercial service. And of course, a lot of the airlines are investing in these companies. And I see a big future. You know, I don't know about the volume and how many you can have there, but it seems better to me than a bullet train.
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I know you got those folks, those traders on Thursday and Friday.
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And then once you get there, you have a problem.
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Yeah, I mean, once you get there, you have a problem. You have to rent a car or something on the other end. But EVTOL is up 14.8% on that news. And then there's Joby, which, you know, that thing's hitting new highs. Joby Aviation is out of, I think, the Bay Area. I'm not sure of that. Or maybe they're Dayton, Ohio, I think. Joby Aviation hitting a new high up 2.3% today. That's a $13 billion company. Now, none of these have any operations going yet, right? But with all the robotaxi craze, I mean, let's not forget this vertical takeoff. And then there's Archer Aviation also. Those are kind of the three big ones involved in this. And Archer's been doing fairly well. It's kind of hitting a new high here. But again, that one's in San Jose. Again, they're not up and running. They don't have customers yet, kind of like the small modular nuclear reactors. But I think the potential is pretty big there for those that want to jump over all the traffic and get there and need to get there. It's a lot cheaper than buying a private jet, I suppose. Okay, QuantumScape shares surge for seventh consecutive session. Stock adds over 150% in a month on that breakthrough that they had. Well, that's actually QuantumScape. Now, I get these mixed up. QuantumScape is the solid-state battery. Yeah. The name Quantum always throws me, and I think it's one of the quantum computing. But look at QuantumScape's chart today. It's up another 15% all-time high. You say, Bill, why don't you want it in the emerging growth portfolio? They have no sales, okay? Most of these companies I'm mentioning... Archer, Joby, there's no sales yet. They're living off of whatever money they have raised, and they have a burn rate, and when they start to run out of money, they've got to go out and do more offerings until they get there. These aren't even emerging growth stocks. These would be that... You're down in a very speculative incubator. I have the incubator account that I haven't been too active in recently. But this would be, you know, a possibility in that one. QuantumScape is QS. And, you know, if they break through with that Panasonic that was working out of the solid-state battery, the mileage... how far you can go would go up to about 700, 800 miles, and that would be a huge, huge breakthrough in the EV market. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now radio show or show podcast on all your favorite podcast sites after we do the live version on live radio. Detroit, August 5th and 6th. The Kingsley Hotel, Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, Tuesday and Wednesday. Tuesday is a workshop from 7 p.m. to 8.30 p.m. at the Kingsley Hotel. Limited space if you'd like to attend. You reserve a seat, 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST, and private appointments Tuesday and Wednesday, all day long, one-hour appointments. The calendar, the schedule filling up, the itinerary and everything, and lots of people to meet with. I can't wait for that. That's one of my favorite things. To reserve a rare one-hour meeting with the team from Gundersen Capital in the Bloomfield Hills area, 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. And, you know, during this earnings season, I've got to tell you that when a company reports earnings, I go right to my app, beststocksnowapp.com, and look at the track record of the company in very simple terms. Here's what the company did last year as performance as a stock versus the S&P 500. Last three years, five years, ten years, and then it grades it on the curve against all other companies out there. That's where I begin with my analysis of a stock. Sometimes I see the chart first. But the first thing I look at is that track record of how the stock has done over the years. And then I get into more of the fine-tuned stuff, the valuations and the metrics and the fundamentals and the growth and the chart, etc. And I'll be teaching all of that on that Tuesday night. But it's a good time to get a free four-week trial. to the app, which includes the live trades, buys and sells. I just mentioned they're not really trades. They're buys and sells that I make. I made, I think, four or five yesterday. And also the newsletter that comes out every Saturday, which is a recap of all the stories we've talked about during the week, our portfolios. Technical analysis of the various asset classes in the market. Our macro forecast of where we think the market's headed over the next 12 to 18 months. And we continue to offer. That's been a popular offering, let me tell you. Four free weeks. at gundersoncapital.com it's also a great education on the stock market in my opinion if you want to learn how to if you want to get into a vertical takeoff vehicle and fly over that learning curve of getting burnt by uh you know commission salesman and all the other pitfalls that are out there we had a guy The other day he was going to sell everything and move his account because he saw some advertisement about a technical trading software or something that promises to beat the market. well okay i've never met a rich technician in my life it is a very handy thing to do looking at charts but for them to make that claim is pretty outrageous i mean they're back testing or kind of doing a what if scenario and uh... investing in what if scenarios are are not a good thing i mean you want an actual person has been managing money for the last twenty twenty five years uh and uh that uh you know you can look up what they own and and how they've done over the years you don't want a what-if scenario that somebody is touting well you can have a lot of data hopefully we save that person yeah you have a lot of data fit where it's like that person for yeah let's look back at what's going on and then they will run some model what would
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what would have been the right thing to do, right? And then they use that model to project forward.
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Well, we know that every market's different. It's one step above a scam. Right. Yeah, and it was out of Canada, some technical trading outfit and making all these promises. Their ad was like, wow, how did they even get away with making those claims? Grab a Gun, backed by Donald Trump Jr., sinks in trading debut. This is an online gun retailer out of Texas. $225 million company. It's down 19.6% today. I think it was a SPAC, S-P-A-C, special something acquisition company, and they ended up being grab a gun. Hey, just go online, grab one, you know, quickly. But anyways, Donald Trump Jr. is on the board. It's sunk 24%. Yes, it's down another 19% here today. And then you've got Digipower. I took a little look at this thing. They ink a deal with Supermicrocomputer for NVIDIA B200 powered systems. That's the DGXX. And that stock is hitting a new 52-week high here today. Canadian-based company that is a wannabe AI company. I'm going to add that to the database. And speaking of NVIDIA, the H200 chips, I don't know if it's H20 or H20. It looks like H20 when you look at it. That's quite a bit lower than their high-grade chips. Those are the ones that China gets the access to. They don't get access to the Full Monty there. They get access to the AI, but still there's tremendous computing power in those. And of course, China is a formidable competitor in the AI race. In fact, Jensen Wang said it yesterday that their models, their AI models are legit. And they're catching up with us very rapidly. Where they haven't caught up yet is the Wang chips. And, of course, even the U.S. chip makers like AMD and Broadcom and others have not caught up or even close to what NVIDIA has to offer. Okay, one of the companies reporting today, and I am just – the performance of this stock and the turnaround – that Larry Culp has achieved at GE, which split into three companies. I believe it was under Culp's leadership that that happened. But let's look at GE over the last 12 months. Now, this is the aerospace division, okay? GE is up 68% over the last 12 months. It has an A-plus momentum grade. That refers to the performance of the stock. Over the last three years, this stock has delivered 90% per year since Culp has been there. This is one they'll be talking about at Harvard and Stanford at the business schools for years. This turnaround at GE from the mess that they were in. Now, if you look at their 10-year track record, it's pretty dismal because it includes all those really bad years before Culp got there. Over the last 10 years, it's averaged 9.1. But if you look over the last 1, 3, and 5 years, their 5-year record is now 50% per year. GE went down 81% during the last bear market, 07 through 09. So right now their performance grade, which is weighted, short-term, intermediate-term, long-term, they're at right up there they're an a plus performer right now okay so ge passes uh my uh my performance uh criteria so from there we go to the valuation criteria and uh how much is this ascent in the stock can there be any valuation left in the stock well I'm using a 15% growth rate over the next five years, which is a little bit on the optimistic side, but it's also the consensus estimate out there. I mean, that's coming from the analysts that cover the company. If they can grow their earnings, which are around $5.60 right now by 15% a year over the next five years, and traded a reasonable multiple, I don't know what multiple I'm using, probably somewhere in the low 20s, I get 88%, let me make sure that's right, I think it's 88% upside potential, which also meets my, 86% upside potential, that also meets my valuation criteria. So when you weigh those two, I equally weight, pretty close to equally weighting, the performance and the valuation. Now remember, most quant systems, in fact, maybe all of them, they're performance only. They're momentum only. They do not take into account valuation. And that was the big chink in the armor as far as I'm concerned with the canceling methodology that William O'Neill used. at Investors Business Daily, it didn't include valuation. I don't know how you get V in the can slim, but it should be, you know, maybe you need a can of V slim. Can of V slim. But right now, GE meets my performance. my valuation, and it has a solid chart. So they'll be talking about this story for decades to come about Larry Colt's turnaround at GE. We'll be right back.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Our big winner today is Taiwan Semiconductor, TSM, which had quite the report. And remember, they are linked at the hip to NVIDIA. Jensen Wang, obviously from Taiwan. His cousin, the CEO of AMD, is Taiwanese. And where do they make all these chips? Taiwan. Taiwan. Taiwan Semiconductor, TSM. Now, the plan is, I don't know if they're making chips in Phoenix yet. I don't think so. But they're building a plant there. And maybe in Austin, Texas also. But for now, you know, 75 to 80% of the chips are made in Taiwan. Here's their report. Take this Pepsi. Their sales were up 54% year over year.
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Remember, this is a $1.2 trillion company. You're not going to find a lot of trillion-dollar-plus companies with this kind of growth. 54% growth in sales. 79% growth in earnings those are my kind of numbers you see I'm not into 3% 4% 0% 1% growth and this is a large cap stock we own it it's one of our largest positions and it is up 3.1% today okay on that terrific earnings report now Let's take a look at Taiwan Semiconductor's track record. And as I said before, during this earnings season, as companies report, I love to look at the back of that baseball card and see those stats. I'm a stats guy. Over the last 10 years, Taiwan TSM has put up 29% per year return. Average returns, that's if you take the price of the stock 10 years ago, versus the price of the stock today, add in the dividends, and you calculate a compound annual growth. That's what the app does, okay? I put those formulas in there. That 29% per year over the last 10 years compares to the S&P, which is 19.8. The difference is about 10 percentage points per year. That's called alpha. That is excess return over the S&P 500. Over the last five years, Taiwan, TSM, has delivered 31% per year, while the market is 18.9%. Over the last three years, Taiwan is 40%. Now, these aren't hypotheticals. I'm not going back and saying, well, it could have been this if it would have done this. That's what they're doing at technicaltrading.com or whatever it is.
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This is real numbers. Okay, 42.4 versus, they've doubled the returns of the S&P 500. And over the last 12 months, the stock's up 30% while the S&P's up 11. This is the real deal. The performance grade is an A. That's taking into account the short-term performance, the intermediate performance, and the long-term performance. But if you look at what it's done lately, which is geared more towards the one- and three-year performance, you have an A-plus momentum grade. William O'Neill in his CanSlim, he used a scale of 1 to 99. I've just stuck with the grading system because I grade everything on the curve. If you compare Taiwan versus all the other stocks in my database, 5100 in my quant system, it gets an A-plus momentum grade right now. Now, okay, it's one thing to look in the rearview mirror and say, gosh, if you would have bought this stock, look what you could have made over the years. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Well, you know what? That's where valuation comes in, and that's the job of an analyst. I spent my first several years in the business kind of on the outskirts of town a bit as an analyst, writing up some research reports along with building a clientele business and managing money, etc. But I made several trips to the Bay Area, which is the financial capital of the West Coast. and visited a lot of mutual fund managers and hedge fund managers man that was booming back in then that was 2000 that was 1999 when the nasdaq was roaring okay and i talked to a lot of people with franklin and gt global and kevin wank i learned a lot from him he was a big fund manager But anyways, that Taiwan semiconductor has put up some big numbers here as far as returns. Now, the valuation is the job of the analyst, and you're going to take the earnings estimates for this year and next year, and you're going to extrapolate them out over the next five years. That's what I do. That's what I was taught to do, five-year target prices. We come up with five-year growth rates, right? I mean, if you look at Yahoo and look at Taiwan Semiconductor, you'll find that the five-year growth rate is listed, let's see, let's look at the valuation here. The consensus growth rate is 15% per year. Which I think is reasonable. And then we apply a multiple to those earnings five years from now. And Taiwan still has 88% upside potential, Barry. So it meets our performance criteria. It meets our valuation criteria. And how do you argue with the chart that's hitting a new all-time high, which especially makes me happy because it's one of our biggest positions. So you can see how you really separate out a... a stock from the rest. When you get into this realm of performance, valuation, chart, momentum, growth, all of this, you're talking about maybe 10% of the entire market. The other 90% There is so much mediocrity in the stock market. There's many companies that shouldn't be publicly traded companies. I mean, what's the point? They're not making any money for their shareholders. But TSM is still the real deal. It's also a dividend payer. You have the added risk, obviously, with China always wagging its finger at Taiwan, saying, you belong to us. Someday we're going to prove it to you. But anyways, for the time being, it's one of the best stocks in the market now. In fact, it's ranked. The ranking is number 15 out of 5,108. Okay, well, that's going to do it for today. Detroit, August 5th and 6th. More specifically, Bloomfield Hills. which is just a little bit inland there from inland. I guess you call that. I'm used to living on the coast from Detroit. And we will be there Tuesday night and Wednesday and Tuesday day to book an appointment, 855-611-BEST, to get a four-week trial. Look up your stocks. Look at your portfolio. Grade your holdings that you have in your portfolio. See what the grade that my system gives them, a quant system that is half value and half momentum. A very novel concept, which has been a pretty potent combination. GundersenCapital.com if you'd like to set up a phone or Zoom appointment with us from anywhere in America. Have a great day, everybody.
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And we've got another great show planned for you. So fasten your seat belts. We hope that you will learn some things that you'll be able to use to engage with your colleagues and your friends and your family as we are in this big battle of ideas that is raging in America. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity on the show. looking at these things through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, their livelihoods, their freedom, opportunity, childhoods, or lives. And force can be obviously a weapon, but we really see it with policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation. And we saw fear and coercion through COVID, see them play that out. Government-induced inflation is a silent thief because your money becomes worth less and less. The agenda by the World Economic Forum and globalist elites, they use the United Nations, Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor, but local governments. As one of our listeners had texted me, she said, What's happening with this agenda is they're thinking globally and they're acting locally. And you can see that playing out in municipalities and counties and the state of Colorado with, I'll put this in air quotes, transit-orientated developments. Transit-orientated developments. If people want to live near transit, certainly from an economic standpoint, if they want to, they should, but there's all kinds of subsidies available. that are pushing developers to build these four- and five-story apartment buildings. And then we see legislation and ordinances, actions at the local level, the county level, that's trying to limit our freedom of mobility and what this is this is the agenda of the world economic forum is that everyday people will not have freedom of mobility will live in rental units and will not be able to create wealth that's opposite to the idea of america so this is this big battle of ideas that we are engaged in and remember if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it So let's let's jump into the other things that we do here. Wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. And let's our word of the day is iniquitous. And it's spelled I-N-I-Q-U-I-T-O-U-S. And it could be characterized by injustice or wickedness, wicked or sinful. I think it's very wicked to steal from one person to give to another. But yet we see government doing that under the guise of redistribution. And so I think that redistribution forced by government is very iniquitous. So your challenge is to use the word iniquitous. in a sentence today and i went to thomas jefferson for our quote of the day he was born on 1870 excuse me 1743 he died july 4 1826 he and john adams died on the same day which i think is providence but he was an American founding father and the third president of the United States. He was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence. He was the nation's first U.S. Secretary of State under George Washington and was the nation's second vice president under John Adams. He was a leading proponent of democracy, republicanism, and natural rights, and he produced these formative documents and decisions at the state, national, and international levels. and this is what he said he said when once a republic is corrupted there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles every other correction is either useless or a new evil And that is why these elections are so important in our country. That is the way that we remove those that are corrupted and have moved away from our principles. We are at our third founding in our country right now to see if we can reclaim these principles of our American founding. And we're engaging in this battle of ideas to do so. and several headlines. The first one, we've been going through the 50 wins in the one big beautiful bill. This is from whitehouse.gov. We're on 41 through 45. And number 41 says it reforms and streamlines the federal student loan program to drive down tuition costs and simplify repayment plans. It says this includes reasonable limits on amounts that students can borrow. This is huge. The government should not be in the student loan program. And that occurred under the Obama administration. So it wasn't really that long ago. And then we've seen student loan debt balloon. We've seen... The cost of tuition balloon. And then we've been paying then that these many of these professors that lean to the hard left to indoctrinate our children. In fact, I was talking with a friend who had a friend who the children grew up in the house, very conservative, go off to college. And four years later, guess what? They have an indoctrinated leftist. And so, and one of the ways that happened then is because of these higher and higher tuition rates, then there was more money to pay these professors to indoctrinate our children. It was, it's quite, quite the diabolical plan. So anyway, number 41 in the 50 wins in the one big beautiful bill is addressing that. Number two, it strengthens account, excuse me, 42. It strengthens accountability for students and taxpayers on federal student loans. This bill imposes skin in the game requirements to hold universities financially accountable to the government on defaulted federal student loans. I have been thinking about that for a long time. This is a great idea. Number 43, it implements critical reforms to Pell Grants to make sure they prioritize students who truly need financial assistance while promoting completion. Says this legislation allows grants to be used for short-term high-quality workforce training programs to support Americans who want to learn a trade instead of the traditional four-year colleges. Number 44, it increases timber sales on federal lands. This means an increase in timber production and improvement to forest management, improving the resilience of timber and saving billions on future wildlife suppression costs. Love what that says. Number 45, it authorizes the sale of expanded spectrum MHZ to strengthen rural broadband and secure technological dominance in AI and other emerging technologies. That's one that I'm going to say, hmm, stay tuned. I'm not quite sure I'm jazzed about that. In fact, when I first got involved in watching all of this when I was on city council, there was... a company that was called Eagle Broadband, I think, and they were receiving millions and millions of dollars for rural broadband, and they didn't really deliver much whatsoever, but they made a lot of money. So I would say I might be a little concerned about number 45 on this. The other thing, and this is a for many, many years, and this is the California's bullet train project. In fact, I think it's been out there for 20 years. There have been those that are buying land up around where they think this project is going to be in the hopes that that land would go up in value. Well, Trump, finally, he did this. This is from Yahoo News. It says the Trump administration pulls $4 billion in federal funding for California's bullet train project. Once again, if California wants that bullet train project, Californians need to pay for that. If Californians don't want to be paying more taxes for that, then they need to vote out the people that are pushing that. That's why elections are super important. And that's why we're also doing such important work over in the elections arena as well here. So stay tuned on that. We have all these important discussions because we have amazing sponsors who strive for excellence. And she's been traveling. She's back, and that's Karen Gorday with Radiant Painting and Lighting. Karen, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Kim. It's always great to be here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it's good to have you. And just a quick snippet. You were back in the – where we were founded, Washington, D.C., and Williamsburg. Just give us a quick synopsis of coming home now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. it was absolutely amazing to see, you'll get a refresher on how the country was founded and then coming back home. Um, you know, it was even little things, you know, looking at, you know, I grew up in the Washington DC area and obviously that has, you know, lots of people there, lots of builders, things like that. And one thing that stuck out is on the East coast and in the Maryland, Virginia area, um, In D.C., they have all the trees. They're transit corridors. It's, you know, two to three lanes each direction. But they have these big, beautiful trees lining the corridors. Everything is green. And I come home and I see the typical Colorado where developers are just destroying the trees. They'll plant new trees, but we have to wait 30 years to get the really tall, you know, beautiful trees. And... Yeah, it was kind of sober coming home to see all the development being done without keeping the environmental things, right? And just destroying everything as a path to just build, build, build.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and that is what you're seeing in Lakewood with this density. In order to accomplish this density and lack of parking, they then have to take out all of the trees and the vegetation. And I know that you're on that issue. We'll probably talk more about that next week. Let's talk about radiant painting and lighting. And explain to me how you prep a house for exterior painting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. So what we do is go out and power wash. Usually the Friday or Saturday before, we're going to paint the following week or same. But we power wash to get all the dust out. dirt, cobwebs, peeling paint off the house. And then when we show up to paint, if all the peeling paint did not come off, then we will hand scrape that. We prime all the bare wood. If there was bare wood where Paint with peeling, we use a different primer to basically seal it so that it will not keep peeling once we put that paint on. And then we also caulk everything that needs to be caulked. And then once all the prep is done, then we start the painting or staining.
SPEAKER 09 :
Karen Gorday, in this climate here in Colorado, is there a certain rule of thumb that you need to paint every X number of years? Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it depends on the quality of paint. So there are paints that are only going to last, you know, maybe five or six years. But then there's also paints that are going to last 10 to 25 years. So my recommendation typically is if someone is keeping their house, that at a minimum they're doing the paint that's going to last at least 10 years because no one wants to paint their house every couple years. And when I say paint's going to last... you know, five to six years, it will start showing its age within two or three years. So, and you never want to wait till it's completely end of life because then you're losing that protection on your house.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. So I think that's really important for people to think about that. And that sometimes can be some of the delayed maintenance that people aren't paying attention to. So it's important to make sure that you're using a critical eye as you're watching things around your home. The other thing is, I can't believe that we're at the middle of July. As fast as time is going, Christmas is right around the corner and you are running these Christmas in July specials.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. So it's 20% off of interior painting that takes place between November and March, and then $200 off of Christmas lights. If you reserve those now, we'll install them early October. We'll put a timer on there, and you can plug it in when you're ready. And yeah, it'll be $200 off.
SPEAKER 09 :
So question, on the lighting, people, I assume, buy the lights, and then you install them, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Nope. We supply commercial-grade LED lights, and then basically we work with them, design what they want, purchase the lights, put them on their house. At the end of the season, we come back, take them down, store them, and they're ready for the next year.
SPEAKER 09 :
So does the person own those lights then, or does Radiant Painting and Lighting own them?
SPEAKER 05 :
Radiant Painting and Lighting owns them, but we'll come back every year and put them back on.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Very good. How can people get more information?
SPEAKER 05 :
Come to our website at www.paintwithradiant.com or give us a call at 720-940-3887.
SPEAKER 09 :
And again, that's paintwithradiant.com. Karen, we'll talk with you next week and welcome home.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much. Talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
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And welcome back to the Kim Bunsen Show. Check out our website. And I got ahead of myself on which break we were at. And to mention the Roger Vangan State Farm Insurance Team. They want you to feel safe and well-served and to understand your insurance coverage. Their office will respond to your call or text 24 hours a day. And so for that 24-hour peace of mind, you need to give them a call at 303-7000. 795-8855, like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there. On the line with me is Carrie Giblets. She lives out in Elbert County, and I met her regarding this issue of Xcel Energy wanting to build a transmission line across Elbert County and threatening eminent domain to take people's property. And so I wanted to get an update from Carrie. Carrie, welcome. Hi, thanks, Kim. And, Carrie, I got to meet you in person when I came out to the hearing, and I made some public comments. Give us an update on what's happening.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, as you know, on the 25th, the Board of County Commissioners denied both of Excel's permits for their power pathway through the county. And on July 2nd, they signed two resolutions, one for each permit, outlining all of the reasons why they were denying the permit. The county believes that XL will be appealing the decision, most likely to the Elbert County District Court under Colorado Rules of Civil Procedure 106. They also have the option of appealing to the PUC. There is a 28-day limitation period for filing decisions. this appeal to the district court, which would put it at the end of July. And as of yet, the county hasn't heard anything. Since the county has denied the permits, Excel continues to serve people with condemnation orders for immediate possession for eminent domain, even though the commissioners have denied the permits.
SPEAKER 09 :
And even though they've not gone through the courts, not gone through the PUC yet, they are actually serving papers of condemnation on this property?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. This is unbelievable. 30 landowners have been served with eminent domain already. There are 9 or 10 who have refused to sign but who have not yet had papers filed against them. So they're kind of in a limbo wondering what's going to happen. XL is continuing to serve those papers on landowners, even though the county has denied their permits.
SPEAKER 09 :
How can they do that?
SPEAKER 08 :
The PUC and Colorado State Government have given them the powers of eminent domain for their project. So my only guess is that they are pretty confident that their appeal will win and they'll be able to continue. So they're just trying to bulldoze their way through.
SPEAKER 09 :
This transmission line is going from where to where?
SPEAKER 08 :
So it's going from Harvest Mile, which is off of Quincy, kind of close to the Aurora Reservoir, down to the Tundra substation in Pueblo, which is near the Comanche coal-fired power plant.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, that doesn't seem like that should go through Elbert County, though.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no, it's... It's 550 miles. They're winding it all through several counties. So we've told them that there are other options. We're not saying no, don't come into Elbert County, but there are easements to the east, transmission and utility corridors to the east that they could use that they don't need to get right-of-ways for, but they refuse to consider those.
SPEAKER 09 :
So instead, if I understand this right, you said there's already transmission corridors and easements that they could use for this transmission line. And again, from the Aurora Reservoir to Pueblo, it doesn't seem like you need to go east to Elbert County.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, their reason is they want to open up the eastern plains for wind and solar development. So that's why they would be coming east. and then curving back around, is it opens up all of the eastern plains. The route that they have chosen opens up our entire county for wind and solar development because wind and solar can be built within 35 miles either side of the line.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. This transmission corridor for this eminent domain that they're serving condemnation papers on, how wide is the transmission? How much land are they asking? They're not asking. How much land are they demanding?
SPEAKER 08 :
Are they stealing? Yeah. The easement is 150 feet wide, 75 feet on each side of the tower. Okay. As it runs along, say, Highway 86 or Kiowa Bennett Road, they'll be taking 150 feet swath of people's property along the road there.
SPEAKER 09 :
That also means then that they'll have this transmission tower right there on their property as well, correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. There are some people that have... would have a tower less than 100 feet from their home. And these towers are anywhere up to 199 feet tall, with the majority of them being 140 to 170 feet. And so they would have this tower 100 feet from their home.
SPEAKER 09 :
And again, there is already easements on other property. And those other easements, is there shorter transmission lines in those other easements that are a possible option?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not sure what you mean by shorter transmission lines.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so is there already some kind of transmission line or something in those easements that you said could be another option?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, yes. And part of Elbert County zoning regulations, states that the transmission lines or new transmission lines have to be co-located along other infrastructure, if at all possible, and it is possible. So they're not following our county regulations.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the other thing that I thought was important to realize is this land is being taken from the people in Elbert County, but the people of Elbert County don't even use Xcel Energy for their electricity, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. There is absolutely no benefit for Elbert County. Xcel says that we will get some money in fees and taxes, but the... the costs to Elbert County far outweigh any benefit that we would get in tax revenue.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I'm just pondering on the Constitution, on the General Welfare Clause, because I think sometimes eminent domain is connected to general welfare. I think, for example, for national security, if we needed some land for a military base at a strategic location, you know, different things like that. But there is no way... that this can be for the general welfare in taking somebody's land and them not even receiving any benefit from that. So that's not the general welfare. That's not the general welfare of everybody. That's the welfare of some. And the some is they say that they're opining, I would say, that they want to provide electricity to the Front Range, to the urban corridor. But yet the people in rural Colorado are paying the price and they're receiving no benefits. So there's no way that's general welfare in my mind.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would agree with you. Exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
So next steps. I just want to keep this in the forefront, Carrie Giblets, because I think that this is something that is so important for people to understand. So if the PUC and Excel can come in and take the property of the farmers and ranchers in Elbert County, be careful because the next thing is they may be coming into your property here in the urban corridor and wanting to take that for some reason as well. So that's why we need to be watching what is happening regarding eminent domain, taking people's property, Carrie. What's the final thing you'd like people to know on this? And we do want to stay on top of this issue.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we're just hopeful that if Excel does appeal that Our voices are heard. The county has outlined so many reasons why this route is not a good idea, why the application needs to be denied. We just hope that that would be heard by our district court or by the Public Utilities Commission.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, keep us in the loop, because this is such an important issue. And the idea that the permits have been denied, and it was an incomplete permit that they were requesting as well. I think it's important that people understand that. So this incomplete application is denied. And they are continuing to serve condemnation papers on people to take their land. This is not American, in my opinion. This is not the way it's supposed to be. This is truly, truly wrong. Okay. Carrie Giblets, thank you for keeping us informed on this. This is such an important issue, and we will stay on top of it. Thank you very much. And these discussions happen because of our sponsors. And Karen Levine can help you with everything residential real estate.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hello, Kim. Thank you very much, and I like that term, watchdog. Thank you.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you certainly are, and you've been on the show before, but if people are new to what you're doing, first of all, tell us a little bit about Jason Bailey and your journey.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure, yeah. You know, I've been doing business for 40 years, and I had a business, a restaurant by a city and county building a couple blocks away for 14 years. We lost the building. A new owner bought it and vacated the building for new development, which is great, I believe, on private property. That was 2022. And, you know, I had the city of Denver on my back for 14 years with that restaurant, and I just got pulled into politics. I would never choose to do this. So I formed an organization called Citizens for No New Debt. And, you know, when I was working at the restaurant, working six, seven days a week, I saw the mayor of Denver, Mayor Michael Hancock, just taking on more debt. And I know that you can't get government debt paid back on average without debt. twice as much tax money. And it just makes no sense. I mean, we can expect people to be working for a living and laboring for a living and the government's taking our money and giving it to, uh, to the banking system so that they can use debt so that they can try to get policies done sooner than, than, uh, than it should be done because they don't have the money in the bank. You know, they, our government's just got to spend the money they have and, uh, forget the whole idea of government debt. It's counterproductive. It's not business debt. And I'm just keenly aware of this. And so the organization is the only organization that I know that's focused on this one single point, pushing back on government debt. Right now we're focused on the city of Denver. The mayor of Denver wants $800 million this November, and we're going to defeat it. So we're on it, and – We just need to do some advertising, get our messaging out there. His messaging is nonsense. If you take a look at our website, citizensfornonewdebt.org, we write quite a bit about this campaign. So we're on it. And, Kim, it's always great to be on your show. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Jason Bailey, I thought I saw a headline that, which is amazing, I about fell over, that the Denver City Council, who seems to like debt and control of people, that there was some pushback on this potential $800 million request that might be on the ballot for Denverites this November. And I thought, huh, well, that's a little bit refreshing. What's your thoughts about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, thank you. And so, you know, at the end of 2022, we had to vacate the restaurant. And so I started talking with city council every week. I went to the general comment and public comment, and I did that for two years. So I know the Denver City Council very well. And I see them do this over and over. They'll kind of talk. you know, as though they're not sure about the vote. But when it comes to debt, I'd be so surprised if council does not approve this probably in August. So, you know, city council, they will give some pushback to try to get concessions from the mayor and try to keep the voters happy that they're really looking at both sides of the equation. But for the most part, city council they always want more revenue there's no end game to what they want and control uh so they always want more money in control and um they they uh i'll bet i'll bet anybody's money they uh they'll they'll approve this debt package in in august and then it'll go to the ballot in november you know so how they're gonna how will they sell this what is this going to be for Well, they're going to sell it by pretending to be Santa Claus and telling people, you know, get your Christmas list ready. We're going to fulfill your Christmas list. So, you know, it's just the same story. They promise everything. And they never, ever talk about the debt or the amount of money to repay that debt. It's always what the voter is going to get. So they gaslight the voters. They say, hey, you're going to get parks and recreation centers and libraries. The thing is, if we don't use debt, we can buy more parks and more recreation centers and more libraries, and we can cut back on tax money. The Republicans want less tax. The Democrats want more budget. Kim, hey, I have an answer. Less debt, because it solves both of those problems. Debt is just too expensive. Government debt makes no sense. I have a home mortgage. I think a home mortgage makes a lot of sense, because you're going to either buy your house or you're going to rent. And so different forms of debt need to be looked at individually. Some forms of debt make sense and some don't, you know, like a payday loan probably doesn't make a lot of sense. Government debt never makes sense. You know, our government should be trying to take as little as possible to get the job done, roads and your basic services from government, not as much, you know, as they can take to pay back that debt, you know. So government debt is not business debt. And unfortunately, a lot of people think that, you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, because government, a business has to produce. Government does not produce anything. The only way that government gets revenue is either by borrowing or by, I'm thinking about the federal government, borrowing from our kids' future or taking it from the people. That's the only two ways that they can do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, yes. I don't even see debt as revenue. I see there's only one way that all things government gets paid for. It's money from the people to the government. I think debt is pretending to be revenue. I think debt is the opposite of revenue because it will always take twice as much revenue on average before we get those banks paid off. So I think there's only one way from the people to the government, and that's how – uh, how all things government are, is, is paid for.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and I really think that we, you're on no new debt and, uh, I really am getting over to no new taxes. I think the two are very connected. You make a distinction in a way between the two. Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was definitely a distinction, but, uh, they, they go to, they go together, you know, um, Like the wheels on a car, you know, there are two different things. But they just go together because the debt will always drive more taxes. It's impossible to get as much tax money. It will always drive that tax money up. So, you know, I mean, you know, on the ballot in November, the first line will be from the mayor of the city. Without raising new taxes, will you approve $800 million in debts? You know, that's like asking the voters to confirm 10 minus 5 equals 10. Will you approve this? And they'll say, oh, yeah, sure, we'll approve that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and regarding on the federal level, so many people have been very frustrated with the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, uses a static model in their modeling instead of a dynamic model. And the difference is, with a static model, you put in X, you say, this is what the tax rate is, we're looking at revenue now, if we increase taxes, then we should get X. But they don't take in the human factor, which is the dynamic model, is if you increase taxes, people make adjustments. Because I think people feel that, yes, there are some taxes to pay for the proper role of government. But I think that the excess taxes, people will do things to try to figure out how to minimize legally that tax burden. And so there have been those that have said that the big, beautiful bill will balloon the debt. But yet I think they're looking at this from a static model versus a model that might be growing the economy. Right. But I understand. I'm certainly concerned about that. But people forget that, yes, we've got this federal debt over here, which is really we've got to do something about it. But then meanwhile, back at the ranch, people are saying, oh, yes, to this new school district tax or extending the school district tax. Yes, to extend this rec center tax. Yes, to extend this tax for fires, our firefighters, which we all believe that we should be, for sure, supporting our firefighters. But when I'm driving by new fire stations that are pretty nice, I'm thinking, well, I may be paying too much in taxes. And so we have to be... disciplined at the local level, this potential $800 million that will be on the ballot in Denver, the voters have to be disciplined and say no, because not only do we have the federal debt over here, but to put more and more debt on us at the local level, we've got to say no to that.
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We have so much debt at the local level. And, you know, I like the firefighters and I don't want my house to burn down. But the fire department is an empire And they want more and more and more and more money, more control, just like city council, et cetera, et cetera. And so, yeah, I mean, I just – you know where i draw the line is debt um and you know whether you want a park or a police station uh we should do it without that uh it just never makes sense to use debt and pay twice as much for the park or twice as much for the police station or twice as much for the fire department you know it just uh it never makes sense it's it dead you know all the money that we give to the bank uh it just will never buy so much as a cup of coffee for anybody and um You know, that's where I draw the line. I think the Republicans and the Democrats and everyone else, we should all be able to agree that this debt makes no sense. And, you know, at the federal level, there's an organization called Truth in Accounting, and they do such a great job of talking about the real debt at the federal level, because all the numbers we hear, $37 trillion, $38 trillion, they don't include Social Security. And once you put that into the equation, all this money that's is going to be due and is obligated to people who need it to live for 20 years or 30 years or 40 years, it's well over $100 trillion. It jumps way north of $100 trillion at the federal level. So we're in deep, but we can never give up. We've got to stay on it. And that's what my organization is about, is just writing and communicating just how counterproductive government debt is. And yeah, it's all over at the local level. It's just ridiculous.
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Well, Jason Bailey, we will continue the discussion with you. But what is that website? What is your website?
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Oh, sure. It's Citizens for No New Debt. And we're doing a newsletter on this campaign. And we're doing a newsletter on this campaign. So please sign up for our newsletter. And this November, we want to defeat that new debt, you know, Kim.
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Okay. Well, I have some other questions for you, Jason Bailey. And we get to ask these questions because of our sponsors. One of those is John Bozen and Bozen Law. So if you've been injured, you should reach out to them.
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and welcome back to the kim munson show check out our website that's kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well and uh let's get into some of these other things first of all i want to say thank you to hooters restaurants they have three locations that is loveland westminster and the location on parker road And they've been sponsors of both the Kim Munson Show and America's Veterans Stories for many years. It's an important story of how I met them. And it is PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties that want to control our lives and matching up against capitalism and free markets. And so it's an important story. But Hooters Restaurants has great specials for lunch and for happy hour, Monday through Friday. So be sure and check that out. And then also the Center for American Values is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk, doing amazing work with educational programs. Drew Dix has started his new podcast series, which is, I think, very informative. He's got such an interesting perspective with all of the work that he's done over all these years. And he was a Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War. The center focuses on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. And so be sure and check that out. That is AmericanValueCenter.org. We've been talking with Jason Bailey, and hopefully we're going to get him back here in just a moment. But I heard this from Jenny. The fire department in Wellington says the fire department already owes residents over $300,000, and they are asking for a 0.5% sales tax. And and Jenny's concerned, is this going to be for the fire department or what? What can happen? There may be some other things that they may want to accomplish, such as in this case, maybe a new rec center. And she says, why can't the school facilities be used for recreation? I think that's a very good point. But what can happen? I remember when I was on city council. One of the first things that some of the PBI said is that money is fungible. And what that means is they move it around. So they may move it around to a pet project over here that they want to get done. And then they'll come over here and ask the voters for the tax for something that they know the voters really would value, such as schools or roads. But yet the money that could be used for that has been moved over to pet projects. And I would think that a lot of that might be occurring with what's going on with the potential ballot question with Michael Johnston and a potential request for $800 million in For the city and county of Denver. And when you look at the results of your money so far in Denver, when you go into Denver, the city that I used to love, it's now it's dirty, it's dangerous. And it's because of terrible public policy that that is occurring. And so we need to, as Jason says, no new debt. And we really, I am to the point, no new taxes as well. I think that government has plenty of money. They just have a priority challenge. And so I think that it's really important that we say no new debt, that we start to vote to keep more money in our pockets instead of giving it to government. In a way, we're voting away our property rights with these higher and higher taxes. And so we have these discussions, again, because of our great sponsors. The other nonprofit that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And I really recommend that you support both the Center for American Values. That website is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And the USMC Memorial Foundation, because we are living, I hope we're not living on the fumes of freedom and this freedom that was bought and paid for us by fellow Americans that have given their their blood and their treasure so that we have that. And we're frittering it away with giving more and more. power to PBIs, to politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties. And one of the first things that we have to do is stop the money, giving the money away to government. And so we've got to make government more accountable to us, to we the people. And I really love what Jason Bailey is doing with Citizens for No New Debt. And I also love this. I mentioned this in the earlier in the show, that the Trump administration is pulling the federal funding, $4 billion in federal funding for California's bullet train project. So California, Gavin Newsom, and all those that have been making all of these decisions, about California and these high gas taxes. I was just thinking about, I'd been out in California, I think at the beginning of March. And let me see if I can figure out the average gas price for a gallon of gas. Let's get that right now. Price in California to compare here because I was able to fill up the other day in the 270 range. And just think about this. So the average gas price in California, and it's because of taxes, is, okay, this is from Fox LA. It says California gas prices are increasing on July 1. What we need to know about that. So let me get that for you. Just think about, okay, so it's going to increase 1.6 gallons per Give us the gas price here. Okay. This is so frustrating when they can't just give you the exact price here. So anyway, it was in the $4.60 range, if I can remember right. Think about that. $2 a gallon of gas, approximately. More in California. what that does to Californians and how much money that takes out of their pocket every time they go to fill up their car so that they can have freedom of mobility to go where they want to when they want to. And so California has all these high taxes on their hardworking people. They're giving money to illegals. They have all of these other programs, for example, this $4 billion bullet train that basically goes from nowhere to nowhere. And if they if Gavin Newsom and company wants to do that, OK, but they need to be responsible for that. They cannot be looking to the federal government, which is taking money from their neighbors and our neighbors and are their neighbors in this case and taking money from our children. in the form of government debt. So each of these states, and this is what the founders wanted, they wanted each state to be a petri dish, to be responsible for itself and the decisions that are made, and that the voters would be engaged and that they would vote people out that they did not agree with what was happening. Now, what happens, though, is politicians say, we're going to tax somebody else so that we can give you money for free. Well, there is no free money. Nobody could receive something for free that's not been taken from somebody else first. And there is something immoral about taking something via force from one person to give to another. But PBIs have figured out that that's a way that they can keep themselves in office. And so that is why we have to be engaged citizens. That's why we do this show is to help you get your brain around these issues and understand that. Because when PBIs come to you and ask for tax increases, there's a lot of things that that they're obfuscating. And that is why when we do our voters guide, we really help you try to unpack those things. And I congratulate you. With that, an example I recently highlighted is ranked choice voting. Even with $14 million coming in to try to get the people of Colorado to vote for that, the people of Colorado said no. And so stay tuned on all these issues. It's important that you understand them. Thomas Jefferson said this. He said, and deserve neither. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two. We will be right back to talk about these very important issues, and we'll be talking with Pam Long. about some things that parents need to know that may be somewhat of a scam. So stay tuned for that.
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And we've got a lot going on out there in our world today. But let's go ahead and jump into our word of the day, which is iniquitous. It's spelled I-N-I-Q-U-I-T-O-U-S. It could be characterized by injustice or wickedness, wicked or sinful. And in the first hour, I talked about forced redistribution that government does of wealth. Helen Creeble in her Lens of Liberty moment made such an important point. And that is, if you want more of something, you incentivize it. If you want less of something, you tax it. And it is no wonder that homelessness has exploded in America. Denver, because in the metro area, but particularly in Denver, because so much money is being pushed to that industrial complex, the homelessness industrial complex. And there's a lot of people that are making a lot of money on the tragedy of homelessness. So if you want more of something, incentivize it. And homelessness in Denver is a perfect example. If you want less of something, then you tax it. And as Helen said in the Lens of Liberty at the top of the hour, that they tax our homes, our property, our clothes, our food, our transportation. And these are all the things that make people's lives better. And so they want to tax the things that make people's lives better. So connect that dot. And the quote of the day then goes to Thomas Jefferson. He said, or a new evil. And we need to do that at the ballot box. And we need to be electing people that understand the proper role of government, that as elected representatives, that they are to represent the people, not these special interests. And when we talked with Kerry Giblets in the first hour regarding this land grab by Xcel Energy in Elbert County, that Excel is serving condemnation papers on people when a permit has not even been approved. It was an incomplete permit. And Ginny had said the reason is that they are pushing this so quickly is that all these tax incentives And tax credits, all this stuff goes away at the end of 2026. We should not be having tax incentives and tax credits because that, again, is government putting its finger on the lever and determining winners and losers. And when I went out and watched the procedures and then made public comments, I reminded the commissioners in Elbert County that they were representatives of the people of Elbert County. They did not work for Excel. And they made the right decision that they denied this incomplete application. But Excel is doubling down. And so we have to continue to shed light on all of this. One of the things that I've been doing is going through the big, beautiful bill on the White House dot gov's website and highlighting. They said there's 50 wins in the one big, beautiful bill. number 41 reforms and streamlines the federal student loan program to drive down tuition costs and simplify repayment plans 42 it strengthens accountability for students and taxpayers on federal student loans 43 it implements critical reforms to pell grants to make sure they prioritize students who truly need financial assistance while promoting completion 44 it increases timber sales on federal lands And number 45, it authorizes the sale of Expanded Spectrum MHC to strengthen rural broadband and secure America's technological dominance in AI and other emerging technologies. That's one I probably want to look a little more at. But there's so many things that are moving us in the right direction here on the federal level in the big, beautiful bill. And so we want to continue to shed light on it, but be honest about it. There's things that we like and the challenges that are in there. We need to go to work to try to fix that. There is always opportunity, and right now there is opportunity in the residential real estate market for people that are, there's choice finally on people being able to look at different homes to really buy the home of their dreams, and Karen Levine can help with that. Karen Levine, welcome. Good morning, Kim. So what's the latest? What should people know? Midsummer, residential real estate. What should people know?
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Well, I think you sort of hit the nail on the head, which is buyers have choice. And it's the first time that we have seen the real estate market moving towards what would be defined as a buyer's market. I was on a Zoom meeting yesterday with the National Association of Realtors head economist. And nationwide, we are moving towards a balanced market. But he indicated that should interest rates mortgage rates drop from hovering around seven down to six, the amount of buyers that would enter the marketplace would then cause us to return to a multiple offer situation. So that would mean buyers would be in competition, more competition, and that would potentially cause values to move back up. Values aren't plummeting at all. They are seeing some downward pressure. And really, the statistics showed that appreciation was just slowing. Our economy is very, very strong. The housing market is strong. But right now there's this window of opportunity for buyers who can handle the higher interest rate, even though they may not like it. but at least can get into a residential unit or an investment unit. And they can do that without potentially being in a competitive situation, which allows them the opportunity maybe to negotiate a little bit better on price and terms.
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OK, Karen, so I'm going to surmise something. We're not each individual's different and each individual has to look at their own situation. So I'm not giving any advice, but I'm just thinking, OK, let's say that you are and we're coming into the school year. Let's say that you have a school district or an area that you want to live in. and there are multiple homes for sale, and you look at all of these and you find a home that you really like, and you would love to have it at a lower interest rate, but right now you might be able to get some concessions because, as you said, at this point it's a seller's market. So if you could handle that payment and do negotiations, which you could help them with, they might be able to get into that home with these concessions. And then if interest rates go down, they could refinance with Lorne and have an even more manageable house payment. Do you see where I'm going with this? Does this make sense?
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Yes. And just to clarify, because there is the potential of it being a buyer's market, And we know there's pent-up demand. We know based on the data that there's buyers out there that want to buy but are hesitant because of the cost of those monthly payments. In your scenario, if a seller is willing to give some concessions, the concessions potentially could go towards an interest rate buy-down, get them the rate that they're comfortable with now, even though they need to qualify, at the full rate. And then when rates do come down, which the NAR chief economists believe we will see them move down over the next 12 to 18 months, they can refinance and have that same payment or better.
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Right. We can't guarantee that. We are certainly surmising. Each person needs to think about that. But in a buyer's market right now, you could help potentially with some negotiations. So I could see how there can be some real opportunity. And so I think people should give you a call because when you don't know when there's unknowns, many times that's when there can be some real opportunity. But you don't know unless you give you a call. So what's that phone number?
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Well, the number to call is 303-877-7516.
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And the other question is, you will sit down with potential buyers, either in person or certainly you can do that online, but you go through different questions to determine what it is they're really looking for. Because sometimes I think people don't even know what they're looking for until they sit down and think about it.
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That's funny you would make that statement. We have a bad, I think it's a very bad saying in the real estate market. It was a saying I heard very early in my career, which was buyers are liars and buyers are not liars. Buyers just don't know what they don't know. And so what happens is that they have in their head what they believe the property is that they want to buy, but they don't know that maybe that property package of things that they like or want may not be available, may not exist in the communities they want to live in, all the things. And so that's my job is to help them navigate what the market has available for them and how that can best meet those goals and dreams. And then when they find the right house, they feel at peace and they're excited because It's exactly what they wanted, but they just didn't know that until they got there.
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And that's how you can help them with that. And again, what is that phone number, Karen Levine?
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That number is 303-877-7516. And I would love to start the conversation. And again, that's 303-877-7516. Karen Levine, we'll talk with you next week. That sounds great. Thanks, Kim.
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and welcome back to the kim munson show check out our website that's kimmunson.com and do you have big dreams for your future but not sure how to get there call our friends at mint financial strategies they know your financial life is unique and as an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary they build personalized strategies that put your freedom and goals first no sales pressure no one-size-fits-all approach just thoughtful guidance built around you So take that first step toward your future. Call Mint Financial Strategies at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. On the line with us is Pam Long. You know her. She is a former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps. She was a West Point graduate, and she is the military director at Children's Health Defense and a great author and guest here at the Kim Munson Show. Pam Long, welcome. Good morning, Kim. Well, school's right around the corner, and parents are getting their kids, will be getting their kids ready for school and wanting to have everything in order. But you have written a very important piece that we'll publish this weekend in our newsletter and then have at the website, Top 10 Scams in Public Health that Parents Should Know. Let's go through this, Pam Long. Where should we start?
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Okay, there's 10 of them, so this will be like a fire hose, but don't worry, you'll get this in the Kim Munson newsletter this weekend. So let's go over like the first five, like an overview, because these are more on the side of the private sector when you're at your doctor's office type of pitfalls. Okay. The first one, violations of informed consent with vaccines. So doctors and nurses routinely fail to inform parents of any vaccine risk by design because of the financial compensation system, which awards them up to $400 per child if the majority of the patients in a clinic are vaccinated. So what would true informed consent look like? Potential benefits, known adverse reactions, including disability and death, lack of liability for the doctor and the manufacturer, options to test for natural immunity in lieu of vaccination, and rights to vaccine exemptions. So that's number one. Number two, violations of religious rights in daycares, schools, colleges, and employment regarding vaccines. So in recent years, schools and employers have attempted to ignore people's religious exemption rights with vaccines. These rights are in the U.S. Constitution. And instead, these entities try to impose illegal religious scrutiny tests, which are clearly prohibited in the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. So parents report to me every school year that their school or some program, like a camp, say that they do not accept these non-medical or religious exemptions. And my advice to parents is know your exemption rights. Do not rely on administrators to inform you correctly. Colorado Revised Statute 25-4-903 contains your vaccine exemption rights, which all schools, daycares, colleges, employers are bound to follow. And the courts have ruled that the denial of religious exemptions is discrimination over and over again.
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So, Pam, a quick question on that. How you and I got to know each other was back, gosh, now what year was it, where there was basically, I can't remember which bill it was, but it was basically taking away or it would put in place a situation where unelected bureaucrats could force us to take vaccinations without our permission. This is where you and I really got connected on this. And so how is it that we get to a point where schools then could attempt to try to force people to get these vaccinations? How did we get to that? And refresh my memory on that particular bill, because RFK Jr. actually came out and testified on that. They had a Sunday session on this because it was so contentious. So refresh our memory on that.
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So since 1978, if a parent wanted to exempt from any or all vaccines, there's now 76, 78, depending on what brand you take, recommended for children up to age 18, which is insanity, right? So parents are starting to say, wait a minute. Maybe I don't want all 78 doses of every vaccine on the market. And so back in 2020, 2021, there were two bills sponsored by now Senator Mullica, who I'll call a pharma shill. That's what he is. And they're really anti-parental rights where no longer can you just present a letter to your school saying, hey, I'm exempting from these vaccines because that's my decision as a parent. They created a form, an exemption form, an exemption process, which in short, tries to deny all exemptions, right? Doctors won't sign these forms or your other option is to go on the CDPHE website and take a, what I call a re-education module, which tells you these vaccines are completely safe and effective. And it puts you in a tracking database. Like there's no good option anymore. There's no private option. It's all under duress, under coercion. And so most parents do the online education modules, print out a completion certificate and use that for exemptions at schools. It's not perfect, but we still have exemption rights. And you can see where this is going. It's very heavy handed. It's very coercive for vaccine uptake. And that should trigger a little red flag in you. Why is there so much coercion and surveillance on these vaccine issues?
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Yeah. Yeah, I think that should be a big red flag for sure on that. Okay, so thank you for that clarification. What's number three?
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Three, violations of consumer protections at hospitals and pharmacies. So, you know, these entities have adopted some predatory sales tactics for profit, too, especially during cold and flu season. So every fall, the local pharmacy at your grocery store will offer customers up to 8%. pneumonia, shingles, you know, RSV, influenza, and a few more. And so I've reported in detail and I provide references to these vaccines have very low efficacy and serious adverse reactions. COVID vaccines do not prevent death or hospitalization. And the influenza vaccine actually increases risk of infection to all other respiratory viruses by 65%. So there's really no consumer protections out there informing people of they may not be safe and effective as they are marketed to you in a predatory way in the grocery store. Hospitals have intentionally vague language in their consent forms. They use the word biologics. So when you go into the hospital for any reason, for a scheduled appointment, for the ER, when you sign in a consent form, there's a word biologics. And it's a catch-all term. And what we know has happened in several cases is that... Patients have been vaccinated while under sedation, unknowingly knowing that they consented for it because of this word biologics. And when they confront doctors, hey, I didn't consent to get a vaccine today, you know, to complicate another procedure. they're told, well, you consented to biologics. So I tell people to ask the hospital staff to print out that consent form. Really read it carefully. Don't just sign it, even though you may not be feeling well. Take a patient advocate with you. Line out these vague words that you don't want to consent to, and you will get a little pushback on that as well. They'll tell you they don't have the technology to print anything anymore. But they do. I assure you they do. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
okay hey next question when you go into the grocery store and it says get your vaccine it's free well somebody is the pharmaceutical company providing the vaccine at no cost that's you know that's the perception another red flag and you know it should like i'm getting something for free nothing is free right so and some of these
SPEAKER 07 :
Grocery stores are offering you a free lunch at the deli. We should not be exchanging our health for a free chicken dinner, right? We should be thinking, what am I injecting? Let me look at the ingredients. We should take a very... consumer review approach to what we're injecting in our bodies just like we do for buying a home or making a big purchase or buying a car we should start reading you know what the manufacturer has to say about this product and getting eight vaccines in one day at the grocery store let's just like stop and think about what are we doing like if you were infected with eight different viruses at one time You can't possibly have a good health outcome from that. It would overwhelm the immune system. Just drug interaction alone should be a red flag for anyone that thinks that this is convenience or this is not malpractice.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's an excellent point. Okay, let's get to number four.
SPEAKER 07 :
Four, violations of medical ethics at doctor's offices. So Colorado is leading the way in the nation for minor consent laws passed under Governor Polis' two terms, which allow children at the age of 12, 12, to consent for pretty much anything in health care. This is very irresponsible to assume that a 12-year-old child can manage their own health care. We're including contraceptives, abortion, STD testing and treatment, HIV, So doctors will often tell the parents of a 12-year-old child if they go for their back-to-school physical and they just turned 12, and parents are not expecting this. They don't know how to respond. It's like they're being ambushed. hey, parent, you can't go in the exam room anymore. Well, in actuality, the child can opt to have his or her parents or guardian or any person they want, any adult, to come to any medical appointment, just like any adult. I would advocate for any adult. Like my children are, you know, 25, 21. I go with them to medical appointments. They don't have insurance. They don't really know their medical history, contraindications. They don't really have the knowledge and wisdom yet. Everyone benefits from taking a patient advocate with them into medical appointments.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. And check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. They are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. You can buy a brick to honor your military service or your loved one's military service that will be on one of their pathways of service. More information about all that, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. It is a way that we can honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. We have responsibilities for everything in our life, really. And one of these things is to ask questions. And Pam Long, who is a West Point grad, she's a former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps, director of the military chapter for Children's Health Defense, regular guest and contributor as an author to The Kim Munson Show. She writes really important pieces, and we'll be rolling this one out this weekend in the newsletter, The Top Ten Scams in Public Health that Parents Should Know. Pam, this is so important. And you have all these links. The amount of research you do is amazing. But let's talk about number five, privacy violations and the CIIS database for intended coercion. Ouch. Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
So the Colorado Immunization Information System, which is a vaccine tracking database, which really expanded during the pandemic to include everyone, you know, from from womb to tomb, you know, from includes adults to not just our students. And so this is where your doctors or your schools are. input your vaccine records into a government registry. And it is intended to be coercive. It uses the data for reminder recall home visit operations, which target people for vaccine uptake, sending you something in the mail. You might throw it in the trash, but that means you're on someone's list and they want you in compliance or recall for a quarantine or during an outbreak or even a home visit where someone, a provider comes to your house and asks you in a very coercive way, if you would like a vaccine where you feel like you don't have a choice. So the real goal and goal for the state registry is to combine with and create a federal vaccine tracking database by 2030, which connects to real ID. So your vaccine status can be tracked for compliance in real time, whether you're going to school, work, or travel.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, this is of such great concern. Okay, let's go to the next one, and surveys. Let me just mention surveys. You can get information. You can try to move public opinion on surveys. I've seen government use that. Interestingly enough, Governor Polis is supposedly going to use an online survey to determine if – People want to spend $29.5 million on a bridge from the Capitol across the street to the park. And so surveys, I find them very suspect. And you said there's a fraud in school mental health surveys. Unpack that, Pam Long.
SPEAKER 07 :
So right after your public health is ours here in Colorado, put people in lockdowns and created a mental health epidemic in our young people. Then then they really started pushing these school mental health surveys, you know, from these private partnerships. And what these are complete frauds. These are. Parents need to opt out of all mental health surveys at schools. I'm talking about I Matter, Healthy Kids Colorado survey, because they're just data mining students for highly sensitive and even self-incriminating information, which could have lifelong repercussions. These are not valid instruments used by mental health providers in the field to diagnose mental health disorders by the Diagnostic Standards Manual. This information is designed to be collected by third parties, people who are not mental health professionals, for referrals for counseling, SSRI-type drugs, and gender dysphoria counseling. I would even go on to say, because I am familiar and I've written about the Office of Gun Violence Prevention, they are using this data from school health surveys. And these surveys are designed to data mine and profile minors, which could result in a lifelong label, which later disqualifies a person from gun ownership.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, Pam Long, one of the things that I've been coming to my attention is these AI centers and all of the electricity that they're going to take. There's all of this information going in. And I think in some ways I used to think, oh, the AI centers, that means that you're going to have chat GPT and it's going to answer questions and you could ask them to help with your college paper or whatever. That's not the case whatsoever. These AI centers are places where all of this data mining or data mining on everyday individuals, that's where this is going. So the next thing that in these conversations, particularly with Virginia Maka, I realize that school districts, at least in Kansas, I'm trying to find out in Colorado, but taking the data on our children and selling it for profit. And so all of this data is probably not only being processed. you know, put together whatsoever, but very possibly it's also being sold. And so I think that how do we crack this nut on all this data? I think this is the first thing is, is that parents should own their children's data, not the school district, not big tech. I think parents should own their own their children's data. What do you think about that?
SPEAKER 07 :
A hundred percent. Data is the new oil. And my next point, number seven, really illustrates this. So I want to talk about the health and privacy risk of these health data trackers. So there's been a controversy of Secretary Kennedy at HHS making a public support broad statement, he refined it later, about supporting the use of wearables that track health data. And these wireless technologies have health risks, but they have huge privacy risks as well. So first of all, these wireless technologies, if you're wearing something that's tracking your health data on your body all the time, it is emitting radio frequency radiation in direct contact with your body. And that has a cancer risk. That has risk to the reproductive system. It has risk for neurological disorders. There are legitimate health risks. But on the privacy side, to your point, Kim, is that this biometric data, everything about you, like creepy levels. I've sat in on some presentations on the creepy levels of data to include your sexual activity data. This biometric data is being made available to employers, medical providers, private corporations, artificial intelligence systems, insurance companies, and government entities. So this is a surveillance infrastructure. This is the groundwork for the surveillance state to create psychological targeting, predictive modeling, social control, and just unprecedented intrusions into our personal freedoms.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and you mentioned this, that HHS Secretary RFK Jr. has stated support for this. And this was one of those things when I saw that headline, I'm thinking to myself, I don't like that very much. There's a lot of things that I really like that Secretary Kennedy is doing, but this is a big one that I'm very concerned about.
SPEAKER 07 :
He really walked it back after that congressional hearing of no one's mandating that you wear, you know, you take a chip or you wear, you know, a device. So you really have to appreciate, you know, what it did, though, actually was it has people like me talking about it, explaining to people the risks of wearing these, you know, an Apple watch or, you know, any type of health. data tracker that just happens to be the most common one you know it could create a heart arrhythmia and I've talked to people like yeah all of a sudden I have this new diagnosis and it's unexplained and I'm looking at the Starbucks barista explaining this to me and then she's wearing one an Apple watch and I'm like do you know there are that's an associated you know side effect of the Apple watch and she has no idea what I'm talking about and So, again, it goes back to informed consent. Are you reading the product manufacturer's information about the device that, you know, we can't just blindly accept some of these new technologies, and we need to be opting out of all of these surveys and ways that even our phones collect health data. Like, we need to be opting out and saying no to all this data that is being collected on us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And I'd like to have this. I did buy the URL for Own Your Kids Data. And I want to go to work on that because I think that's a spot because I had initially posited the idea that we, the people, should own our own data, that we should, if they're collecting it, and we should... And I know that we give permission. If you want this app out of convenience, convenience is going to be our downfall. I'm concerned about that. We say, okay, and we don't know what we're signing. But I think that the place where we can say is parents do not want that data collected on their children. They do not want that data being sold. And I think that that's the spot where we can start to really shed light on this. I don't know what that's going to look like exactly, but it seemed like it was a good idea to, And so we're going to move forward on that. So we're talking with Pam Long. She's going to be able to stay on through this last segment. We want to get through the balance of these top 10 scams that parents should know about in public health. And then if we have time, we can certainly take a call or two, 303-477-5600. A lot is coming in on the text line. line, which the text line is 720-605-0647. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. If you've been injured, be sure and reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's kimmunson.com. We want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And do check out the Center for American Values. That website is americanvaluecenter.org. Great organization. Certainly would recommend that you support them. Drew Dix, who is a co-founder and a Medal of Honor recipient. for actions he took during the Vietnam War, has started this new podcast series, Words from the Silo. They just published his most recent podcast, which is our high-tech military, that was posted yesterday. And again, I think Drew's perspective on these important issues is, it's really nuggets of wisdom, I would say. So check out AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with us is Pam Long. She is a West Point grad former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps. She is the military director for Children's Health Defense, a regular guest and author here at the Kim Munson Show. We're going through her piece that will publish this weekend, The Top Ten Scams in Public Health that Parents Should Know. Okay, let's get to number eight on this, Pam Long.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, number eight, corruption in family court in these parent evaluators. I think this is the biggest scandal in Colorado currently that is flying under the radar that parents have no idea. And they get blindsided if they should find themselves in court with a contentious divorce where the court... Let's people, parents believe that they have to hire this thing called a parent evaluator to assess the health and safety of their children in custody cases. And these people, there are no certification requirements for parent evaluators. There's been two cases of complete fraud with fake credentials, unfit, biased towards child abusers, and they charge parents up to $10,000 for their alleged services. Number nine, fluoride. The federal courts last year decided that fluoride is neurotoxic and that water fluoridation, it lowers IQ. And in our state, we're still fluoridating water. And this will probably drag on for the next decade because the EPA is appealing this court decision. So do whatever you have to do. Make your own decisions on fluoride in your water, in your dental products. And then lastly, I think there are some predatory organ donation risks based on some of the data and anecdotal evidence that came out of the pandemic of what was happening at hospitals. I think it would be prudent for a family to designate organ donation only after a family member is deceased and not before so that when a person goes into a hospital, There is no temptation to maybe for the staff or the doctors to view that person as an organ donator versus a person that they need to save their life.
SPEAKER 09 :
Boy, I remember, and I'm going to have to check, but it used to be you could put on your driver's license that you're an organ donor. That's probably not a good idea, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Based on some of the red flags that, you know, in my reading, I would advise against that at this point.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. And how can that happen, though, be an organ donor? Would it be in the will that somebody would say that my family can make that decision after my death? Is that how that works?
SPEAKER 07 :
You could put it in a will, a trust. You could designate a patient advocate. You can have a living will. There's so many ways. You can be, you know, whoever's in charge of you after you die can make that decision for you. So there's many ways to do this, but I don't think it's something we should be advertising to, you know, a predatory health care system that, hey, I have organs I want to give you, like, while you're still living.
SPEAKER 09 :
While you may not be ready to give them up yet, right? Right, right. That's important. Okay, very important piece here, Pam Long, and we will be publishing it this weekend, and lots coming in on the text line. We've got Ron on the line. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 22 :
Hey, Kim, I think what she's saying is great, and I hate to take away from it, but it's about your first guest is when he was saying about the council, they act all concerned and then they're going to pass that millions of dollars or billions of dollars eventually. If what we have and what's been proven is that these voting machines are corrupt and corrupted, that's why I think that they're allowing these to go through because they know that They're going to pass these bills and they're going to get the money.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and I think to your point, Ron, is that we need to make sure that we have free, fair, honest and transparent elections. And there is significant concern about potential manipulation with voting, tabulating machines that can be connected to the Internet or what kind of machines. Software is in those machines. And a lot of people have questions. And so we need to get answers to these questions instead of when we have seen people on both sides of the aisle say, nothing to see here, it's the gold standard, move along. Well, we realize that that may not be the case. And that is why I want to say thank you to all of you listeners and supporters out there for stepping forward to fund the two lawsuits that we have filed. United Sovereign Americans is doing a name change to Unite for Americans. And Marlee Hornick, one of the co-founders, will be on the show on Monday in the second hour with some new developments. So you will not want to miss that. And then also the other lawsuit that we have that shows that there are people that voted in the Colorado 2024 election that should not have voted. And certainly, we have many inflection points. We've got the machines, the mail-in ballots that are flying all over the state, a chain of custody of those ballots. There's many challenges, and we need to get that cleaned up. Ron, thank you. Any other comments, Ron?
SPEAKER 22 :
Thank you, Kim. Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 09 :
Pam, there's a lot going on. We've got just a few minutes left. And any other thoughts regarding our elections here in Colorado?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't think we have the gold standard. The gold standard should always be a moving target. We should always be improving. So just to say that, you know, we have a gold standard, it's like saying the science is settled, right? No, we're always moving for improvement. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. So that is really important. And I did want to go back to one of these points that you had made, and that is regarding all of this data collection on individuals. And I know that people like to wear these different devices that will tell you how many steps that you've taken each day, which... It's kind of cool to know those steps. But as I looked at that, I thought, oh, I see danger, danger in uploading that information. Because what if then somebody says, oh, you weigh this much, you should weigh less than that. You've not taken enough steps to do that. And I could see the opportunity for force and coercion in that. So I really am so concerned about these data trackers.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Kim, I think the takeaway here is, I mean, let's look at the Amish, right? They're not using health data trackers. They're very fit and healthy people. They just eat clean food and get exercise in their daily routine. They don't hit the gym. They're not wearing the trackers. Generally, they're not injecting themselves with anything. So, I mean, maybe we just need to get back to the basics and what the creator gave us works.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, right, and Thomas Jefferson, a great founder, really understands freedom. He had had a quote about walking every day is so important, and I'm trying to do that. I could use, I think, a few more hours in the day. I've not been able to do that daily walk that I've been trying to do on a regular basis, so...
SPEAKER 07 :
You can do it, Kim. Get out there in the sunshine.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know. Okay, next, and we've got time, I think, for this last question. This is from Sandra. She said, please ask Pam Long if one can specifically state no vaccine directive into your medical file. And you mentioned something that I'm very concerned about. If somebody goes in to get a new knee, a new hip surgery, they have not taken the COVID vaccine yet. I've been concerned that they secretly might be injected with that. And so that is a valid concern, yes?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, print out those consent forms, write no vaccines, like be very explicit or any, like your kids going on a field trip, they, you know, they want a medical consent, no vaccines and whatever other concerns you have, no drugs, no, you must call me parent before you do anything. I mean, I was that person. I was writing all over those consent forms for student field trips, the doctor's office, anything health related. I'm customizing that form to my liking.
SPEAKER 09 :
OK, that's great advice. And again, and Sandra said, yes, stated explicitly. Pam Long, as always, thank you for the great work that you're doing. We'll be rolling your piece out in the newsletter this weekend. And it is so important that parents be informed. And I think parents are waking up, aren't they, Pam Long?
SPEAKER 07 :
Parents are waking up 100 percent, like at least 70 percent are saying no thank you to experimental vaccines.
SPEAKER 09 :
And those 70 percent are talking to the other 30 percent. And that's why the work we're doing is so important. Have a great day. Keep up the great work, Pam Long.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you.
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And Thomas Jefferson said this. He said, when you abandon freedom to achieve security, you lose both and deserve neither. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America. And I want to give a highlight. Tomorrow, Yvonne Paez will be guest hosting the show for me and the two important subjects that she will be addressing. The first is with Erin Lee, and that is regarding Protect Our Kids Here in Colorado. And then also she'll talk with Chris Harris, who is a retired border agent from the San Diego sector about what has been happening in California regarding immigration. And so both of those conversations are going to be so important. And then, of course, Alicia Garcia. and Teddy Collins with the Second Syndicate will be updating us on all that is happening regarding our Second Amendment rights. So you will not want to miss that tomorrow with Yvonne Paez, who will be guest hosting. I will talk to you again on Monday, and you will not want to miss that show either. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Join us for a profound discussion on the biblical principles of love and faith. This episode delves into Christ's teachings, the significance of John 15:11, and how joy and happiness integrate into our daily Christian lives. Through real-life applications and divine promises, Rick guides listeners on an enlightening journey towards spiritual growth, emphasizing the critical distinction between belief and faith. Prepare to uncover the rich essence of knowing Christ, and the ultimate promise of a heavenly home.
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And we have many books available on our website, rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org. Remember, the name of the show is The Flot Line, F-L-O-T, and we're talking about a forward line of troops. We're talking about building an invisible barrier inside your soul made up of 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the Word of God so that you can stop the outside source of adversity before it ever becomes the inside source of stress. We've gone over these 10 problem-solving devices. We even have a bookmark that has them on it. If you'd like to bookmark, just write to us on the website. We'll send you one, two, three, as many as you need. But the 10 problem-solving devices begin with Rebound, how you solve the problem of sin, confessing your sin to God. And then we move to the filling of the Holy Spirit, which is the impetus for the Christian life where Paul mandated us to be filled with the Spirit. And then we move to the faith rest drill where the Bible teaches us to live by faith, not by sight. Then we move to grace orientation where we learn how we're saved by grace, live by grace, die by grace, and have surpassing grace in eternity. Then we move to another problem-solving device, which is doctrinal orientation or biblical orientation. That's building a foundation on the word of God in your soul. As the Bible says, study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, but rightly dividing the word of truth. When you do this, this gives you a personal sense of destiny, another problem-solving device, where you begin to see God's plan for your life and understand it and leave your agenda behind. All of this is motivated by your personal love for God, a great problem-solving device. In the Bible, in 1 John 5, 3, it says, if you love me, you will obey me, and my mandates are not hard. Personal love for God is related to God's character, God's virtue. But then we have impersonal love for others, and that's you loving other people based on your character and your virtue. Both personal love for God, a virtue-related problem-solving device, and impersonal love for others, another personal virtue, love, and problem-solving device. They are wonderful gifts from God. So one is where you're responding to the love of God. We love him because he first loved us. And the other is where you're expressing that love for all of mankind the same way he did. And then we come to sharing the happiness of God, and this is basically what we've been talking about in our show here today, yesterday, or excuse me, last Sunday is what I mean to say. And then we'll move on to occupation with Christ, the great problem-solving device. So we started last Sunday a study on John 15, 11. And in John 15, 11, Jesus Christ our Lord is wrapping up the Last Supper. They've had the Last Supper, the communion, and things are beginning to happen rather quickly now. And he told them these words. He said, these things have I spoken unto you so that my joy might remain in you and that your joy might be full. the question is what does these things refer to and these things refer to everything he taught them after that meal beginning with john chapter 13 going up to john 15 11. the first thing that he did after they had a wonderful meal as he began to wash the disciples feet he peter had a problem with it and the lord had to correct him and tell him If I don't wash you, you have nothing to do with me. And then he said, well, give me a bath. And the Lord said, you don't need a bath. You've already had a bath. And we saw the difference in the two Greek words, luo and nipto. Nipto means to clean your feet, and luo means absolution, that's salvation. Peter was saved already. He didn't need to be resaved. He just needed to have his feet washed. Of course, he didn't understand what it was about. And Jesus said in John 13, seven, what I do, you do not know now, but you will know it hereafter. And it was, it's teaching the illustration of forgiveness of sin. How when we sin and we go to our Lord, he cleanses our feet, he washes our feet, he cleanses us from our sin. And then we have to learn to forgive others just like the Lord Jesus Christ forgave Judas who betrayed him that night. We saw in Ephesians 4.32, be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another as God and Christ forgave you. So we had to learn not to be bitter when you're betrayed by those that you trust. These are all lessons the Lord taught in John 13. And then he said, happy will you be if you do these things, John 13, 17. And we have a different word, not joy, but happiness. Joy is the Greek word kara, and happiness is the word makarios. So the happiness that he's speaking of there is the central essence of the Christian life. We know it as problem-solving device number nine, sharing the happiness of God. What it is is it's a life with objective optimism. Let me say it again, objective optimism. Plus having a relaxed mental attitude that's produced by the inner joy and the confidence that comes from the word of God stored in your soul. So you'll never have more joy in your entire life than when you're in the middle of the plan of God. Some of you have learned that already. Just from these radio shows and finding a qualified pastor, you began to grow, you began to see this, and you have sensed this new joy in your life, and I'm so happy for you about that. The future happiness of these disciples was linked to being obedient to these things, these principles that he taught them. And the Lord knew what they were going to go under and how they would be oppressed and how they would be hated and vilified because of him. And he told them. So that was one of the things in John chapter 13 we looked at. Then he identified the traitor. Another thing that we saw, and that was Judas. And I told you the thick-headed disciples didn't quite figure it out yet. And then he gave them a new commandment found in John 13. John 13, 34, a new commandment I give you, that you love one another as I have loved you. That is impersonal love. Impersonal love. He loved us based on his character, not ours. When the Bible says God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life, that's an impersonal love. He's loving you based on his justice and his righteousness and his grace provided through the cross. And you have to use that same impersonal love with individuals that you might not like. Your personal love for God is your motivational virtue to use impersonal love as a function in your life. So one's a functional virtue, one's a motivational virtue. And this is what the Lord Jesus Christ taught, this new commandment, love one another. They didn't like each other, some of them. They were very competitive, I told you that. In Luke 22, 24, however, there arose a heated dispute among them. They were arguing. about which one of them was considered to be the greatest. So our Lord had to get these guys together and say, look, I'm leaving. I'm going to my father's house, but you're going to have to get along if we're ever going to have any success in the devil's world. So, now we want to get down to another one of those things that he taught them in John 15, 11. Another one of these things that's to be learned. Here it is, John 13, 36 through 38. Simon Peter said to him, Lord, where are you going? And Jesus said, well, where I'm going, you cannot follow me right now. You'll follow me later. And Peter said to him, why, Lord, why can I not follow you right now? I would lay down my life for you, Lord. A little braggadocious there. Yeah, I'll die for you, Lord. And Jesus answered, will you lay down your life for me? You will. And then he hit him between the eyes when he said, truly, truly, I say unto you, a rooster will not crow until you deny me three times. So between the time Peter said that statement and daylight the next morning, he was going to be totally embarrassed and totally ashamed of himself because unfortunately he will deny the Lord three times. That doesn't mean he's not saved. That means that he's human, that he let fear overtake him. And it cost him dearly in his life. So Peter heard what the Lord said in John 13, 33. Little children, I'm with you a little while longer. You will seek me, and as I said to the Jews, now I also say to you. Where I'm going, you cannot come. So this dedication that Peter said that he all this braggadocious he had was emotionally based and would not hold up under extreme pressure. This is something you must understand. The Christian life is not emotionally based. It's a soul-based life based on the mentality of your soul. You have to put in your mind the mind of Christ. That's what the Bible says. Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. Listen to what the Bible says. Stop thinking in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think, Romans 12, 3. Listen to this. As a man thinketh in his heart, so he is. The Christian life is lived in your soul, in the mentality of your soul. And it's not emotion. Emotions will react to pressure. But humility responds to pressure. And there had to be humility. And his dedication was emotionally based and would not hold him up under this extreme pressure. So what's going to happen to Peter? He's going to be humbled. That's right. He's going to be humbled. He's going to be broken down. The devil's got him now. He's going to be afraid for his life. He's going to deny that he's ever known him. And in Luke 22, 60, Jesus saw him and stared at him, and Peter wept like a baby. He thought he wasn't even saved anymore. He thought he had failed the Lord. Listen, unless you understand and use the faithless drill, you too will fail similar tests like this. Because Hebrews 11, 6 says, without faith, it's impossible for you to please God. So don't make some kind of promise like Peter made that you cannot keep, especially to the Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah, Lord, I'll die for you. I'll go with you, Lord, and I'll die for you. And Jesus said, you will? Listen, Peter, listen, I hate to inform you, but before the rooster crows in the morning, you're going to deny me three times before daylight. The focus of your faith should always be on the biblical solutions, not the human solutions. Fear produces flight. Faith produces confidence. That's why the faith rest drill problem solving device number three is critical. You must understand how it works as a Christian. You must use it. Remember Moses when he brought the Jews out of Egypt that had been in slavery for over 400 plus years. And the Pharaoh got after them, and he was going to kill them all and chase them to the Red Sea. And it looked like they were done for, the Red Sea in front, Pharaoh and his army behind. And you know what Moses said? Stand still and watch what God's about to do. Faith requires you to stand still, to focus on the object of your faith, which is the Lord Jesus Christ and the plan of God for your life. Never be afraid. And this is what Peter did. He failed this test. He had to be taught humility. And this is what the Bible says in Philippians 5, Philippians 5, 6, the Lord Jesus Christ humbled himself and made himself of no reputation and took upon himself the form of a servant. Now, another one of these things, you see, all of these things relate to these problem-solving devices that we talk about. The Lord Jesus Christ had a wonderful way to teach it. Another one of these things found in John 15, 11 is in John 14, 1. These things, John 14, 1, here's what he said, the Lord said it, "'Let not your hearts be troubled. "'If you believe in God, believe also in me.'" Now the verb cardia is the word heart, heart. It's singular, but the genitive of possession is plural. Thus our Lord was saying that all 11 who remain, remember Judas took off, were to take this individually. Do not let your hearts be troubled. Do not be afraid. Do not get full of fear. You believe in God? Yes, they did. Believe in me also. The present passive imperative of the word let not is a verb of entreaty. So the Lord admonishes them not to be discouraged In the dark hours, it's coming ahead. The reason I tell you it's a present passive imperative verb is to understand the morphology of that word, let not your hearts be troubled. The present tense is there's never a time in your life when you are to be troubled. In the Christian life, there's no room for fear, no room for worry, no room for eager anticipation where you're afraid of something. It's not there. The present tense is telling us this, and the passive voice says the subject receives the action of the verb. He doesn't produce it, so this comes through the Holy Spirit. whose wonderful job, Galatians 5.22, is love and joy and peace and longsuffering and gentleness and goodness and et cetera, peace, peace, peace. Did you hear that? And so the Lord is telling them to take this individually. The present tense, there never is a time here to be troubled. The passive voice, as the Holy Spirit will give you the ability to handle it, and the imperative mood is the mood of command. So the Lord is admonishing them never to be discouraged in the dark hours coming ahead because they had just been told there was a traitor in their midst and that the strongest of the group, Peter, the one they all looked up to, would even deny the Lord that night. And they all have now understood that he was going to be put to death. They'd been told he would be resurrected, but they didn't completely understand it at the time. You know, listen to what the verse says again. It's critical you understand this. If you believe in God, believe also in me. If you believe in God, believe also in me. Belief in God is easy faith, but trusting in Christ is different. The Bible says in James 2.19, the demons also believe and tremble. Believing in God is not salvation. I was watching a television show last night and a fellow was talking about his brother died and said before he died, he believed in God. Maybe he didn't know how to say it, but that's not getting saved. Believing in God is not trusting in Christ. Trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ is different than believing in God. Believing in God is not salvation. It's believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved, Acts 16, 31. You know, a deist believes in God, but he's too intellectual to believe in his son, the Lord Jesus Christ. So keep this in mind. Someone that says, I believe in God, that doesn't mean they're Christian. You become a Christian when you put your faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross. And you express that faith by prayer. Many times you simply say, Father, I know I'm a sinner. Father, I ask you to forgive me of my sin and I believe in Christ and accept him as my Savior. Technically, Christ has already forgiven you for your sin, but you're now confirming that and you're now accepting that by faith. Because the Bible says, whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. And that's how we get saved, not believing in God, but believe in me. And once we come to a relationship with Christ, now we can understand God the Father. because we are given God's righteousness. The Bible says, he that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we might be made the righteousness of God by means of Christ. Once we are adopted into the family of God, Now we begin to trust God and understand God's character, his essence, sovereignty, righteousness, justice, love, eternal life, immutability, and impeccability. I mean, this is what God is about. He is unbelievably God. He's the same yesterday, today, and forever. But you will never know him personally until you come through the Lord Jesus Christ. Because the Lord Jesus Christ said, I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no man comes to the Father but by me. Another one of those, these things that Jesus mentioned in John 15, 11 is about your heavenly home. Here's what Jesus said in John 14, two and three. He said, in my father's house are many dwelling places. And if it were not so, I would have told you. for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to myself, so that where I am, there you may be also." What a wonderful promise for us. He's not going to abandon us and leave us in the devil's world. And he told the disciples, don't worry, I'm not gonna abandon you. see he just announced that he's going to not abandon them he promised to return and that's still true today because the kingdom of christ has yet to be established the millennial kingdom the thousand years of the rule and reign of the lord jesus christ is yet to be established that will happen after the exit resurrection called the rapture and after the seven years of tribulation At the end of the seven years of tribulation, the Lord Jesus Christ will return, the second advent, and he will establish the millennial kingdom, and we will be there with him, ruling and reigning with him in our resurrection bodies. So he's not bailing out on us. So don't get this picture in your mind of some giant mansion in heaven. This is a descriptive analogy of the fact that there is a place in heaven for each of us while we're there, and even a place for us on the new earth that is going to be created, Isaiah 65, 17, 2 Peter 3, 13, Revelation 21, 1. All of these verses refer to the final state of the redeemed. Keep in mind, Peter said this earth will be destroyed, the universe will be burned up, and there will be a new heaven and a new earth, and this is where we will spend eternity, in the new heaven, and the new earth going back and forth between the two. Okay? So, remember that. The Lord announced he would not abandon them. Keep this in mind. The Lord Jesus Christ is a heavenly real estate developer. I like that. He's making room for all of us when he went there. He's preparing a way for us. And, you know, Thomas, one of the disciples, thinks he's speaking of a physical location. That's what he's thinking in his mind. And here's the question he asked. Lord, We don't know where you're going, so how can we know the way? And then remember Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by me, John 14, 6. Right after Thomas made that goofy statement, Lord, we know not where you're going. How can we know the way, John 14, 6? I am the way. I am the truth. I am the life. No man can come to the Father but by means of me. That means that Jesus Christ is God's appointed redeemer. And that means that no man can approach God unless he first comes through the Lord Jesus Christ. That's one of these things he taught them. The mechanics of this is found in 2 Corinthians 5, 21. Listen carefully. He, that's God, made him, that's Christ, the one who knew no sin to be sin for us so that we might be made the righteousness of God by means of him. So there's no greater joy than knowing that you are redeemed out of the slave market of sin and you're now a firm member of God's royal family. What a wonderful gift through the compliments of the Lord Jesus Christ. Another one of these things he taught, and I'll give you a little bit of a modified, expanded translation of John 14. Since you have known me, you will know the Father also. In fact, in the future, you will know him because you have seen him. Well, the Bible tells us no man's seen God. What's he saying? The question is the degree to which, if any, they understood who they actually knew. I don't think they really understood this was the God-man, undiminished deity, true humanity, and one body forever called hypostatic union. They've already looked upon God in the form of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's evident they did not know at this time who he actually was. And it's true the God-man, hypostatic union, the theanthropic nature of Jesus Christ, a Trinitarian person modified by union with human and nature divine. So he has God and man in one body forever. Christ is therefore both. He's both God and both man, and he's no less God because of his humanity, and he's no less human because of his deity. He is the God-man. So when he says in the future you will know him because you've seen him, He's telling them, I am God. John Valvard, the president of Dallas Theological Seminary, said these words, the proof that the two natures maintain their complete identity, though joined in a personal union, is based on a comparison of the attributes of the human nature and the divine nature. It should be clear that divine attributes must necessarily belong to the corresponding divine nature. and that human attributes must belong to the corresponding human nature. Though the attributes of either the human or the divine belong in the person of Christ because Christ is theanthropic in person. But it's not accurate to refer to his nature as being theanthropic and there is no mixture of the divine. You can't say that. He is God and he is man. So he's not forming a third substance. He's one thing. The human nature always remains human And the human and the divine nature always remains divine. So by coming to know the Lord Jesus Christ, the disciples would come to understand who the Father is. just as you do and are doing even now. They would now advance both intellectually and advance spiritually by means of their relationship with Christ. You know, you and I cannot see God the Father, but we can understand him through our relationship with Christ. Listen to John 14, nine. He that have seen me have seen the Father. So why do you now ask me to show you the Father? He that has seen me has seen the Father. So why do you now ask me to show you the Father? That's pretty simple, pretty plain. Now, the question I have to ask you this morning before we wrap it up, have you met the Lord Jesus Christ? Do you have a personal relationship with him? Because that's what Christianity is. It's not organized religion. It's not ritual without reality. It's a personal faith in the atoning work of Christ on the cross for you. It's a belief that he was dead, buried, and resurrected for you. It's a guarantee, and when you put your faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, then you can come to know him by faith. It's faith alone in Christ alone. When you receive Christ as your Savior, you're born again, the Bible says. Your dead human spirit is made alive in Christ, and you begin a new life called the Christian life, thus the need to learn God's wonderful problem-solving devices. Well, I hope you've been listening. I hope it's making sense. Until next week, same time, same place, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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It's called a laboo-boo. And the reason I know about this thing is because apparently... I saw an adult woman with one on her giant lady purse. I'm not even kidding. It is a, I don't know, a plush toy. I don't know how else to put it. It's like a monster toy, and it was created by this Hong Kong Belgian designer, and it's sold exclusively at a Chinese-based retailer, Pop Mart, because I don't do Chinese stuff, so... That explains a lot of it. The CCP probably loves it. So when I heard teddy bear made of human skin, I immediately thought of a labubu. Now, they're not all like teddy bear looking things. Someone said it looks like a Mesopotamian demon. Yeah, that's accurate. And apparently a K-pop Lisa from Blackpink wore one on her purse and it like exploded. It started in Thailand, Southeast Asia, and now grown women... So the woman, it's a friend of a friend. So I don't feel bad that I'm talking. And she's kind of a moderate. So I don't feel bad. She had a grown, grown woman. She was like 50 something. I don't know why I'm whispering. Yeah. Like she was like 50 something and she has like had like a huge, you know fancy bag and she had this thing on it and My first inclination is to go WTF is that you know and just be real but I didn't I was looking at it And so I asked another woman. I was like, why does she have a toy on her bag? She was like, oh, that's a little boo boo. Like I was supposed to know what that was. I'm like, oh, we would She's like, oh, that's a little boo boo. Like what was a little boo boo? It's like a... I don't know. Is it like beanie babies? Remember when adults... I will never forget this old photo that I saw. And it was a photo of this couple that were in divorce court in the 90s. And they were dividing up their beanie babies in their divorce settlement. They were literally on the floor of the courtroom with piles of beanie babies by each of them. And I thought... My first actual thought was, well, why wasn't this the moment that society was declared dead? I don't know. So, little boo-boos are apparently really... It's hard to get the one that you want because you usually have to get them in what they call – I don't even – you know who explained this to me? Carol Roth. Carol Roth knows all about them. I don't know why Carol does. It's a funny – I don't know. They're incredibly expensive. So some of them are like – can be like $90 and then the more valuable ones can go for thousands. What? And when you purchase them, if you want a specific one, it's going to be super expensive. Or you do just what they call a blind box purchase and you just buy Ella Boo Boo and they give you whatever one they want to give you. And it works. That kind of abusive marketing works on dumb women. I don't get it, but that does. And you ought to hear about some of this stuff. It's insane. It's like some of them were like, one of them was like $10,000. I'm not kidding you. And they look like giant teddy bears that people hang on their bags. And there are stories of people that are stealing them in the street. They have safety issues because people are fighting over them. They had a human-sized Laboo Boo that was like $200,000 that sold. They had a limited edition release one, a regular-sized one that was $31,000. All these celebrities like Rihanna and everybody else are wearing them. So now everybody else is wearing them. I mean, aren't we just talking about inflation and the cost of eggs and how people are walking around with expensive little Mesopotamian demons on their handbags? Like what in the world is wrong with society right now? But if you think that's dumb, you haven't seen all of it. So do you guys know what Stanleys are, right? A lot of people, I feel like, went to Stanleys after Yeti stepped in it. Remember when Yeti was really popular and then they got real dumb after Parkland and real weird about Second Amendment stuff? And then I think even before then, because I had friends that work in the outdoors industry and they were kind of turning on Yeti because Yeti was partnering with all of these outdoorsmen and women. And then... Anytime anybody did anything firearm related, they would pull sponsorship or something like that. It was a big controversy. And I feel like people started gravitating towards Stanleys. Now, Stanley was what my grandpa took his coffee in when he would go hunting. And it was just like a giant green thing with a twist off. That's how I remembered it, right? Now, they have the tumblers. Now, full disclosure, I have one because it keeps my stuff cold and it has a handle on it. And I almost hate carrying it out in public because I don't want to be like one of those people. But I have to have my adult sippy cup. I have to have diet soda or ice water in my tumbler at all times. It's a Texas thing. You've got to have one. Otherwise, the world stops spinning if you leave the house without it. I'm saving the earth. So Stanley's, the tumblers that they have, they make, I can't even believe I'm saying this, accessories for it. Have you heard of a Stanny Pack? What? So, you have your Stanley, right? Sure. And you would put a backpack on it. What? It has its own backpack. There's one showing you right now on the simulcast. Why? That's a Stanny Pack. Now, there's different kinds. They make designer Stanny Pack. This is what... Where's SMOD? Where is the Sweet Meteor of Death? Thank you. They make all kinds. They have a carrier bag for them. So you can get like a neck carrier. You know how you would have a baby Bjorn for your baby? It's like a Stanley Bjorn for your Stanley. And then you put your Stanley in it and you wear it on your neck and it has a Stanley pack. Oh, but wait, there's a Stanley pack. There's more. Oh my gosh, there's more. You can get entire skins for it. Straps for your Stanleys. Oh my gosh, there's like charms. Now, you might think, oh, that's real sweet that little girls have that. No. Guys, for whatever reason, fashion has convinced women to infantilize ourselves and do this stuff. Because there are women I like that do some of this. I don't get it. And I'm mad because I didn't invent it. That's what I'm mad about. Why didn't I invent a StaniPak? I mean, that's a stupid idea that is making buku bucks for somebody out there right now. Right? Like, they get them personalized and all this stuff. What does this say about society? That it's these... I am trying to understand the psychology of it. Like, there's... especially in Texas, it's a big deal. You get your Stanleys and all the girls go to, and the guys have them too, but the guys usually have guy colors. The girls want pink and they have their names on them. They have their Stanny packs and they have all this stuff. And it doesn't matter what zip code you're in. It is, it does not matter. That's the thing. It is unifyingly ridiculous. I don't get it. What is, Cain, would you ever walk around with a thermos that had a little fanny pack on it?
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No.
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You wouldn't? No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No. Matter of fact, those old Stanley thermoses that you referenced that your grandpa had and your dad. Well, listen, I had one and it fit right in the top of that lunchbox. That was the accessory to my Stanley back in the day. I had one of those big old lunchboxes that the Stanley thermos would fit right in the lid. Yeah.
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I mean, and I like I mean, yes, it keeps it cold. But and that's why because I drink tons of water. I take allergy medication, too. So it dries out, you know, dries everything. So I drink tons of water anyway. But I don't put like like they have charms on them. And so I'm like, OK, you have little boo boos and Stanley's. I have yet to see in the wild a woman with both of these things. If I do, I'm so taking a picture of her. I don't care if I get beat up in the process. I'm so going to do it. I'm just going to be like, wait a minute, don't kick my ass until after I get the photo so I can put it on Instagram and be like, what in the world? I haven't seen both of them in the wild at once, but I have seen them singularly in the wild. And I don't understand this at all. So is this like the Beanie Baby craze thing? But Beanie Baby, wasn't that something that little kids were in? Were adults really into it? I mean, what does an adult do with a Beanie Baby? You don't play with it. What do you do with it? I don't get it.
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Put it on the adult shelf.
SPEAKER 03 :
What?
SPEAKER 05 :
With all the other adult Beanie Babies.
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What?
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I do not understand this stuff at all whatsoever. I get it that some people have the things that they like to collect. I get you. But hear me out. It's weird. Okay. It's weird, right? It's weird. I don't know. But I felt like that when I saw that teddy bear made of human skin, my first thought went to the Lububu. And then I had a friend tell me that their daughter had asked for a Stani pack and Stani accessories. And I... I didn't know what that meant. And I literally had to be explained to like I was five because I didn't understand that. Oh, you buy things for your cup like you would a child. Oh, now we're accessorizing our drinkware. Why did I invent that? Guys, we are all in the wrong industry. We all need to combine our thoughts here, and we need to take over this industry, something fierce. Or we need to have a stupid idea for the next one. The folks who helped make the program possible, it is the people over at Kel-Tec, the new generation sub-2K. It folds fast, optics stay in place, and deploys just as quickly, zeroed and ready. It's innovation with a twist, and it's available in a variety of calibers, including now 10mm calibers. It's a foldable carbine. And it's really easy to do. You don't have to detach anything to fold it in half. And you don't have to attach anything once you unfold it and put it back and deploy it back ready to go. It accepts Glock mags as well. Standard 15 round Glock 20 mag folds down to 16 and a half inches for easy storage and transport. Simple and reliable blowback design. You also have an internal buffer for softer recoil, lightened five pound trigger pull, integrated M-lock and rails for accessories. It's good for whatever your needs are, including backpacking, camping, law enforcement, church security, even whatever you need. Caltech makes it right here in the U.S. of A, American Materials. You can find more at caltechweapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Aw, yeah. All right, so first up, NASA, there's more to this than meets the eye. NASA apparently discovered a super earth called TOI-1846. And it's supposed to be a super earth due to its size. But with a temperature of about 600 degrees Fahrenheit, I don't think that anybody could live there. I mean, I myself love a dry heat, but this might be a little much. Just saying. It's not likely habitable. There is a similarity in terms of size. But they said there were some weird signals coming from it. But the weird signals apparently are... A starlight dip from transit. I don't even know what that means. So it's just customary. It's just like a... I still am going to cross my fingers and hope that they're all wrong. They could be. Popular zero-calorie sweetener could impair brain blood vessel cells, according to a study. I don't care. Actually, it's erythritol, which if you're keto... that's like a popular sweetener. It's horrible. And isn't that the one that has a taste? It's horrible. I can, if I, oh my gosh, this chemical needs to die in an AIDS fire because it's one of the worst things. It's like, I'm going to bake something nice and defecate in it. That's what this does. It is one of the worst artificial sweeteners. It tastes like a plague. It's that horrible. I don't, I hate it more than anything else I've ever hated in my life, actually. Except the devil. Hate him more. Beyonce's unreleased music was stolen from a car in Atlanta. I really don't care. Do we care? I mean, what is it from the Cowboy Carter niche album? I don't know. But apparently it was a car used by her choreographer. How did he get music, though? How does the choreographer get unreleased music? Unless I guess he's, you know, choreographing her. But still, you would just like let him. Don't they have like a kind of a skiff for this stuff? I don't know. I'm just just guessing. A robot. Robot umpire. No. Nope. Nope. Don't want this. Nope. Robot umpires are going to make an all-star game debut. They're going to use this in regular season. Robot umpires. Robot umpires. Yeah. When you say robot umpire, I look for that short little robot to run up awkwardly on the field. That's what I'm looking at. They've been experimenting with automated ball strike systems in the minor leagues, and now they're going to use it in the All-Star game for the first time this summer. They said that pitchers think everything is a strike, and then you go back and look at it, and it's two or three balls off. They said, yes, they want to challenge it. Steve said that they used it last night, and it worked well.
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Yeah, the All-Star game was last night. It's essentially not a robo-ump. It's just an automatic system.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, why are they saying a robo-ump then?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's not a robot. It's a replay system.
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A replay system. See, this is fake news. It's fake news because it's not even an actual robot. Like, if you're telling me a robot umpire, I'm expecting, like, an actual robotic person-looking thing standing there on the field. Heavy rains and flash flooding across the Northeast. This has been the rainiest summer I think I can imagine. It has been. It rained pretty much all day yesterday. Well, like basically after three o'clock, it rained all night and heavy rains, flooding, stranded vehicles, all kinds of stuff. New York, Pennsylvania, et cetera. And then last but not least, New York City saw its second wettest hour in history. They had a terrifying freak flash flooding yesterday. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this third hour. So TSA, you may. May, it's being hinted. The next big rollback might be liquid restrictions on flights. Department of Homeland Security suggested Wednesday that they're pushing for the TSA to ease up on its liquids, aerosols and gels rule. Now that the airport security has ditched the shoes off policy. Hallelujah, by the way. And I think it's smart if Noam is is going after all this stuff. I mean, she should. I'm like I said, I'll give her a pass on however she wants to look at any event or whatever she wants to do, whatever, you know, aesthetics she wants to tweak. I don't care. I'll give her a pass for everything. You make this a thing that happens, girl. I don't care if you wear a fur to the to the border as long as it's ethically sourced. I don't care. So, because right now you can only have 3.4 ounces of liquid with you. And this is what I don't, you know how stupid this all is? First off, when you're going through airport security, And this is all because of after 9-11 and you had the shoe bomber and I guess what was it? Somebody else had tried to set off some kind of bomb with a liquid. So they banned like regular size liquids and you had to have 3.4 ounces, which as everybody knows is teeny tiny. And it is so infuriating because you can't hardly get like the stuff that you use doesn't always come in travel size. And then you have to put it in these stupid little travel bottles and it's a pain in the backside. It's like a science experiment gone wrong in the bathroom. It's horrible to try to make it all happen. So I always thought it was weird that you would have to ditch all your liquids or water bottles or anything. Everybody throws everything in one trash can right there when you're going through security. And it's like, well, if that's suspect and you have to get rid of it because of potential explosiveness, you're all putting it in one trash can at your choke point. Now, if I'm playing a strategy game, You know, like, you know, with the family the other day, we're playing Earth Defense Force, right? You know, you want to get a choke point and then you set off an explosive, you know, at a choke point. You know, you get everybody going through there, you take out the enemy. I'm just saying that's, you know, it seems bad. I always get nervous when I, I'm always nervous going through TSA because of that reason. It's a choke point. I am never most heightened in terms of awareness as when I'm going through TSA. Because if I was a baddie and I wanted to do something, it would be at that choke point. It's right at the entrance, right in front. And that's, everybody's in a line. Everybody's waiting there. It's just like, I, it's the most mind boggling, insane thing I've ever seen. Anyway. And then the 3.4 ounces, my gosh, that's not enough for anything. What if you hate checking your bags like me? Because Murphy's law in terms of lost bag would always happen to me. So I don't check a bag. I can get everything I need in a week unless I absolutely have to. And if it's work related, if I'm like on a work trip and it's like a week long thing, maybe, but I always, I don't know what I'm speaking to this cruise that we're going. I'm the, the, uh, MRC thing. I have no idea what I'm going to do then. Cause that's international. I got to have three. Oh, and that's the other thing. If you're flying international, uh, Doesn't mean that they're all going to reduce their restrictions. That's just if you're flying domestically. So I don't know. But still, they give a few exceptions for a medication and infant formula and that. But if you want to fly with higher volume liquid, you have to put it in your check bags and then pray it doesn't get lost or wrecked. Because I've had I've had airlines crush my suitcase before. I've had one busted suitcase where it was just, I don't even know what happened. It looks like a velociraptor got a hold of it. And then I had one where they put it up and you get it on the jet bridge. And I mean, it literally crushed my suitcase. My wheels were busted. I had to like pick it up and carry it through. And that's when I got one of those super strong suitcases. And then they're just like, well, we'll give you $50. Hope nothing in it was broken, you know? So I don't know. I, I, I would hope because I hate having to carry everything in like my one personal item bag. And that's what I have to do. So I don't know. But the shoe thing is good. But taking out the liquids and all that stuff. I mean, aren't they also getting to the way that I understand it? They have like new scanners. So some airports have new scanners. And this is and I also wish that TSA at these security checkpoints would let people know in advance with a sign that. uh whether or not the the x-ray machine or the machines that you're putting your stuff through if you have to take that stuff out or not because i have flown where some of the newer machines you don't have to take your liquids out you can keep it in your bag and they just notice it but then if you take it out i mean i've had agents like scream at me for taking it out of my bag and i'm like there's literally no one this has always been the rule when was it not the rule you know it's like Please be kind to your travelers when you're going through because not everybody knows that you've switched up machines and that they don't have to take this out or they do have to take it out. I have literally flown through the same terminal and went through one time and they were like, don't take your stuff out. And then the next time I went through that exact same terminal, I got a different machine. I was in a different line. And then they're like, take your stuff out. Why is your stuff not on your back? It's like, because I didn't... that you they need notices for this that being said i really hope i really hope that they do this to fly domestically and be able to carry like you know a regular not that i have giant you know super value size bottles of shampoo but just being able to take like regular stuff that would be nice sunblock is super important like when you're trapped for vacation because it's so up marked everywhere else that's a big thing it would be nice it'd be nice
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Join us for a multifaceted exploration of today's hottest consumer trends and political scandals. From the unexpected popularity of Labubu toys and Stanny Packs to the ever-persistent questions surrounding the Epstein files, we dissect why certain topics capture public attention. Our conversation touches on how marketing shapes consumer behavior and examines the deep-rooted political challenges Republicans face in addressing their past promises about the Epstein case.
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President, I know you've urged people to move on, but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story and so upset about how it's been handled? Why do you think that is?
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Why they would be so interested? He's dead for a long time. It was never a big factor in terms of life. I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is. I really don't. And the credible information has been given. Don't forget, we went through years of the Mueller witch hunt and all of the different things. The Steele dossier, which was all fake. All that information was fake. But I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring. And I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going. But credible information, let them give it. Anything that's credible, I would say, let them have it.
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I heard someone was saying that, well, they can't release everything because there were videos or something that showed, obviously, children being abused in some of this, and that's why they couldn't release it. I think that's the stupidest excuse I've ever heard anybody give, because that's already illegal. You can't release that anyway. That's irrelevant to everything else. I think you just need to put everything out there and let the chips fall. I can't believe I accidentally used the same cliched phrase as Nikki Haley. I'm going to go throw myself off a cliff. Welcome back to the program. I'm joking. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this first hour of the chats at Rumble. Channel 347 is the stream of the radio program, the visual component of the radio program because that's how we do things now. So the files, I keep seeing these. I know the media is seizing on it because why wouldn't they, right? I do want to caution people because they're like, oh, well, the media seizing on it. This is something that the media is blowing up. There wouldn't be anything to blow up if you hadn't had a bunch of Republicans go out there and try to agitate voters and say, oh, my gosh, this Epstein stuff. We're going to make promises that they couldn't keep. I mean, ultimately, that's what happened. You had a bunch of Republicans go out there, make a bunch of promises that they couldn't keep. And now everybody's mad at them. And the Republicans think that the best way to handle it is to tell everyone to get over it. That's... The dumbest thing ever. That's that is like, I don't know. I feel that's like Stacey Abrams strategy. Just don't do that. It's just it's no, it's not true. And it's you. I mean, everyone I was trying to think of one Republican who didn't talk about it. And there isn't one. I mean, if you go and if a simple search or if you ask AI to pull up all the times it's been mentioned on the campaign trail by Republicans. It's pretty astounding. And I didn't want to just sit here and throw up screenshot after. You guys get the point. Screenshot after screenshot after screenshot. You guys have heard the same stuff that we've heard. I mean, this was something that they really went out and they promoted and they promised everyone that they were going to get to the bottom of this, etc. So just explain or just release everything. That's it. But to tell people to get over it or to say that the people who want to talk about it are stupid. You can't call your voters stupid. So I think this is going to be kind of the true test. You know, Trump said, I can go out and shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and nobody's going to say anything about it. Well, are you going to be able to call them stupid over an issue that every Republican, himself included, talked about and getting to the bottom of for how many years, Kane? I mean, so maybe not the shooting somebody on Fifth Avenue, but maybe I don't know. Can you tell them that they're stupid for talking about it? Because that's what he said. That was just that's like one of the new quotes. I mean, and you could say, well, he's talking about Democrats. The Democrats aren't the ones that are being the loudest about this. It's Republicans. Republicans are the ones that are talking about this over in my comments on Facebook or Instagram. It is overwhelming. Hundreds and hundreds. Overwhelming. People are livid over this issue. So the GOP needs to not allow something that should not be a distraction or an anchor that should be just an aid for them. They shouldn't weaponize it against themselves. And I feel like that's what they're doing here. We're going to come back to this because can we talk about the teddy bear made of meat? Or sorry, skin in New York. Oh, my gosh. A human skin teddy bear at a California bus stop. It wasn't in New York. Sorry. It was a they said it was a prank. Was it, though, it was a teddy bear artwork, they said, that was made from human skin. Really? They said it was a prank, a very bizarre incident. Officers arrested a man after what appeared to be a teddy bear wrapped in human flesh. Was that... left outside a Southern California convenience store. Hector Villanueva, 23, was arrested in connection because they said it was reporting an emergency, knowing it to be false. So callers indicated that a teddy bear made of what looked like human flesh was left in front of a gas station. And they examined it and they said it was not made with any type of human remains or skin. Yeah. But they are selling a human skin teddy bear on Etsy, I think. That's really gross. I don't know. I thought it was a laboo boo at first. Have you guys heard of this? I don't know what's wrong. So it's called a laboo boo. And the reason I know about this thing is because apparently I saw an adult woman with one on her giant lady purse. I'm not even kidding. It is a I don't know, a plush toy. I don't know how else to put it. It's like a monster toy. And it was created by this Hong Kong Belgian designer. And it's sold exclusively at a Chinese based realtor or real retailer, Pop Mart. So that's because I don't do Chinese stuff. So That explains a lot of it. The CCP probably loves it. So when I heard teddy bear made of human skin, I immediately thought of a labubu. Now, they're not all like teddy bear looking things. Someone said it looks like a Mesopotamian demon. Yeah, that's accurate. And apparently a K-pop Lisa from Blackpink wore one on her purse and it like exploded. It started in Thailand, Southeast Asia, and now grown women... So the woman, it's a friend of a friend. So I don't feel bad that I'm talking. And she's kind of a moderate, so I don't feel bad. She had a grown woman. She was like 50 something. I don't know why I'm whispering. like she was like 50 something and she has like had like a huge you know fancy bag and she had this thing on it and my first inclination is to go wtf is that you know and just be real but i didn't i was looking at it and so i asked um another woman i was like why does she have a toy on her bag she was like oh that's a laboo boo like i was supposed to know what that was i'm like okay She's like, oh, that's a labubu. I'm like, what the hell is a labubu? It's like a... I don't know. Is it like beanie babies? Remember when adults... I will never forget this old photo that I saw. And it was a photo of this couple that were in divorce court in the 90s. And they were dividing up their beanie babies in their divorce settlement. They were literally on the floor of the courtroom with piles of beanie babies by each of them. And I thought... My first actual thought was, well, why wasn't this the moment that society was declared dead? I don't know. So... LaBooBoos are apparently really, it's hard to get the one that you want because you usually have to get them in what they call, I don't even, you know who explained this to me? Carol Roth. Carol Roth knows all about them. I don't know why Carol does. It's a funny, I don't know. They're incredibly expensive. So some of them are like, can be like $90 and then the more valuable ones can go for thousands. What? And when you purchase them, if you want a specific one, it's going to be super expensive. Or you do just what they call a blind box purchase and you just buy Ella Boo Boo and they give you whatever one they want to give you. That's and it works. That kind of abusive marketing works on dumb women. I don't get it, but that does. And you ought to hear about some of this stuff. It's it's insane. It's like some of them were like one of them was like ten thousand dollars. I'm not kidding you. And they look like giant teddy bears that people hang on their bags. And there are stories of people that are stealing them in the street. They have safety issues because people are fighting over them. They had a human-sized Laboo Boo that was like $200,000 that sold. They had a limited edition release one, a regular-sized one that was $31,000. All these celebrities like Rihanna and everybody else are wearing them. So now everybody else is wearing them. I mean, aren't we just talking about inflation and the cost of eggs and how people are walking around with expensive little Mesopotamian demons on their handbags? Like what in the world is wrong with society right now? But if you think that's dumb, you haven't seen all of it. So do you guys know what Stanleys are, right? A lot of people, I feel like, went to Stanleys after Yeti stepped in it. Remember when Yeti was really popular and then they got real dumb after Parkland and real weird about Second Amendment stuff? And then I think even before then, because I had friends that work in the outdoors industry and they were kind of turning on Yeti because Yeti was partnering with all of these outdoorsmen and women. And then... Anytime anybody did anything firearm related, they would pull sponsorship or something like that. It was a big controversy. And I feel like people started gravitating towards Stanleys. Now, Stanley was what my grandpa took his coffee in when he would go hunting. And it was just like a giant green thing with a twist off. That's how I remembered it, right? Now, they have the tumblers. Now, full disclosure, I have one because it keeps my stuff cold and it has a handle on it. And I almost hate carrying it out in public because I don't want to be like one of those people. But I have to have my adult sippy cup. I have to have diet soda or ice water in my tumbler at all times. It's a Texas thing. You've got to have one. Otherwise, the world stops spinning if you leave the house without it. I'm saving the earth. So Stanley's, the tumblers that they have, they make, I can't even believe I'm saying this, accessories for it. Have you heard of a Stanny Pack? So you have your Stanley, right? And you would put a backpack on it. It has its own backpack. There's one showing you right now on the simulcast. That's a Stanley pack. Now there's different kinds. They make designer Stanley. This is what, where's SMOD? Where is the sweet meteor of death? They make all kinds. They have a carrier bag for them. So you can get like a neck carrier, like a, you know how you would have a baby Bjorn for your baby? It's like a Stanley Bjorn for your Stanley. And then you put your Stanley in it and you wear it on your neck and it has a Stanley pack. Oh, but wait, there's a Stanley pack. There's more. Oh my gosh, there's more. You can get entire skins for it. Straps for your Stanleys. Oh my gosh, there's like charms. Now, you might think, oh, that's real sweet that little girls have that. No. Guys, for whatever reason, fashion has convinced women to infantilize ourselves and do this stuff. Because there are women I like that do some of this. I don't get it. And I'm mad because I didn't invent it. That's what I'm mad about. Why didn't I invent a Stanny Pack? I mean, that's a stupid idea that is making buku bucks for somebody out there right now. Right? Like, they get them personalized and all this stuff. What does this say about society? That it's these... I am trying to understand the psychology of it. Like, there's... especially in texas it's a big deal you get your stanleys and all the girls go to and the the guys have them too but the guys usually have guy colors the girls want pink and they have their names on them they have their stanny packs and they have all this stuff and it doesn't matter what zip code you're in it is it does not matter that's the thing it is unifyingly ridiculous I don't get it. Cain, would you ever walk around with a thermos that had a little fanny pack on it?
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 22 :
You wouldn't? No.
SPEAKER 11 :
No. Matter of fact, those old Stanley thermoses that you referenced that your grandpa had and your dad. Well, listen, I had one and it fit right in the top of that lunchbox. That was the accessory to my Stanley back in the day. I had one of those big old lunchboxes that the Stanley thermos would fit right in the lid. Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
I mean, and I like I mean, yes, it keeps it cold. But and that's why because I drink tons of water. I take allergy medication, too. So it dries out, you know, dries everything. So I drink tons of water anyway. But I don't put like like they have charms on them. And so I'm like, OK, you have little boo boos and Stanley's. I have yet to see in the wild a woman with both of these things. If I do, I'm so taking a picture of her. I don't care if I get beat up in the process. I'm so going to do it. I'm just going to be like, wait a minute, don't kick my ass until after I get the photo so I can put it on Instagram and be like, what in the world? I haven't seen both of them in the wild at once, but I have seen them singularly in the wild. And I don't understand this at all. So is this like the Beanie Baby craze thing? But Beanie Baby, wasn't that something that little kids were in? Were adults really into it? I mean, what does an adult do with a Beanie Baby? You don't play with it. What do you do with it? I don't get it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Put it on the adult shelf.
SPEAKER 22 :
What?
SPEAKER 10 :
With all the other adult Beanie Babies.
SPEAKER 1 :
What?
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I do not understand this stuff at all whatsoever. I get it that some people have the things that they like to collect. I get you. But hear me out. It's weird. Okay. It's weird, right? It's weird. I don't know. But I felt like that when I saw that teddy bear made of human skin, my first thought went to the Lububu. And then I had a friend tell me that their daughter had asked for a Stani pack and Stani accessories. And I... I didn't know what that meant and I literally had to be explained to like I was five because I didn't understand that. Oh, you buy things for your cup like you would a child. Oh, now we're accessorizing our drinkware. Why did I invent that? Guys, we are all in the wrong industry. We all need to combine our thoughts here. And we need to take over this industry, something fierce. Or we need to have a stupid idea for the next one. Like-minded folks who make great products. You guys know these have been a longtime sponsor of the show, Super Beats, these folks. They have a new product called Super Boreen. It's all about healthy metabolism and healthy blood sugar support. And you can get it at Sam's Club now for like less than a dollar a day when you go in. I mean, it's that affordable. And you're going to see the difference. It's such a great product. And they have really, really done everything possible to deliver really good concentration without any GI distress with this. They use a unique berberine. It's been clinically studied. It delivers nearly 10 times higher the absorption rate than standard berberine. And it's one easy to swallow capsule a day. You get all of the benefits in one concentrated capsule a day. And they include grapeseed extract for greater tolerability so there's no GI distress. Find both the new Super Brewing and the number one best-selling Super Beats hard shoes at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with the Super Beats and expand your routine with Super Brewing. Start today and get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
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Wait, of course he listens to Maren Morris, Fake Country. Okay. That's Hank Johnson, who's, for whatever reason, his sport coat is so long, it's almost like Evening Tales. I don't understand it. None of us had to hear that. We really didn't. Yeah. And now this goes on with this thing of Democrats seizing on the Epstein file stuff. Well, it's a Republican. It's a problem that Republicans made for themselves. And now they're trying to anything to avail themselves of it. They're trying to grab on to every read possible. We got a lot more on the way as we roll towards the second hour and the latest economic numbers and that budget bill that passed in the Senate last night. Stick with us. The folks who don't make the program possible. It is the people over at Caltech. The new generation sub-2K, it folds fast, optics stay in place, and deploys just as quickly, zeroed and ready. It's innovation with a twist, and it's available in a variety of calibers, including now 10mm. It's a foldable carbine, and it's really easy to do. You don't have to detach anything to fold it in half, and you don't have to attach anything once you unfold it and put it back and deploy it back ready to go. It accepts Glock mags as well. Standard 15-round Glock 20 mag folds down to 16.5 inches for easy storage and transport. Simple and reliable blowback design. You also have an internal buffer for softer recoil, lightened 5-pound trigger pull, integrated M-lock, and rails for accessories. It's good for whatever your needs are, including backpacking, camping, law enforcement, church security, even whatever you need. Caltech makes it right here in the U.S. of A, American Materials. You can find more at caltechweapons.com. That's K-E-L-T-E-C weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Mr. President, I know you want to move past all this intrigue over the Epstein files, but I do want to ask you to clarify something you said this morning. You said this was all a hoax. Has your attorney general told you this was a hoax? What evidence have you seen of that?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's not the attorney general. No, I know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It's been run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher Wray and these characters and Comey before him. It's a bad group. It started actually look at the Steele dossier that turned out to be a total hoax. The 51 agents, the intelligence, so-called intelligence agents, it was a hoax. It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats. And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. And so they try and do the Democrats' work. The Democrats are good for nothing other than these hoaxes. They're bad for policy. They're bad for picking candidates that can get elected. Like in New York, we have a communist running. He may get elected, too, actually, but he'll destroy the city.
SPEAKER 22 :
So this is problematic because of the Internet. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. I don't know. This is like such an easy... Goal for the right. I have no idea now why we're weaponizing it like against the right case in point. I mean, this is there's a lot of these stories. This is one such story. The headline Trump promises to release Epstein client list if he wins the election, says former president convicted sex trafficker was a quote good salesman. This is from September of 2024. He talked about this a lot. There was a lot of this. He talked about it again in June 2024, Fox and Friends. He gave an interview where he said, yes, he would declassify the Epstein files. And he implied that in the existence of the files, there was this client list, which are two different things. He said that. He added a caveat, which is weird. He said that there was there could be potentially phony stuff in there that could affect people's lives. And I don't know what that means. He also did it on a number of podcasts where he said it's very interesting, isn't it? It's probably all going to be made public anyway, etc. He's talked about this so much. He made multiple campaign promises in the general election. He promised on several occasions when he was campaigning to declassify the files, including the alleged client list. Right. And he would sometimes say the list or the files or the people in the files, things like that. He used a bunch of different phrases. But because there is a difference between the files and the client list, I think. But he talked about both of them, though. That's the thing. He mentioned this repeatedly. He's been quoted by everything from The Guardian to Fox News to Newsweek, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Newsmax. The first even tons of different the blaze, tons of places quoted him as talking about all of this on the campaign trail. He indicated and alluded repeatedly to there being a cover up. I mean, I've got I mean, we could sit here. I told you I could sit here and do this, you know, a whole we could do the whole hour on this. And there was even a story. They went after him and tried to make it a negative thing. There was a story in The Guardian where they tried to listen to this. It said how the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein files became a vehicle for QAnon. Now, this is a piece that was done back in a little bit ago. And it said, oh, it's the obsession with these files. In the very beginning, they tried to paint him as a conspiracy theorist for even talking about it. So the news was saying, oh, he's a conspiracy theorist for even talking about it. All the people that are going along with this are conspiracy theorists. So every time he mentioned it on the campaign trail, you would have an article that would pop up. in the press where they're going at him and acting like he's a conspiracy theorist. So that's why there's so many media mentions of this because and we know that he talked about it verbatim on the campaign trail because every single time he did, you had legacy media out there that was trying to act like it wasn't a big deal. And that, oh, these people are just fringe kooks. They're just conspiracy theorists. There were stories about how MAGA is being taken over by conspiracy theorists regarding the Epstein files. And Trump is stoking conspiracy theories with the Epstein files. This is another story that was from a year ago. So this has gone on and on. You all, everybody has had their characters impugned by the legacy press for simply wanting to know what's up with this Epstein case. What is up with the, is there a clientele list? What's in these files that can be released? And as I said last hour, I reject the weak excuse that the reason they couldn't release the files is because of video of child molestation. That was never going to be released anyway. Give me a break. That was that's illegal to even put it out there anyway. It's never going to be released. But there's a lot of other stuff that could. I mean, according by and this isn't just Trump, every other Republican. I mean, we could spend I'm not kidding you. I could spend the hour going through all of the campaign promises that Republicans made with us. I mean, can you remember hearing it, too? Oh, yeah. I mean, I think every single, the easiest question to ask is which Republican didn't mention it? So I actually ran that question through AI. None. Every single Republican. Now, and I don't use AI for a reason because I don't trust it. And I think it's, you know, and then we just saw the Mecca Hitler thing. And I'm like, but I wanted to see, I wanted to see what, if it could, you know, I was very curious. And some of it was, they would mention it and they would say, oh, the Epstein files or the list. They would mention the list in broader context than talking about it. But by and large, they all mentioned it. They all talked about the existence of it. And so I don't know. Why are... So if people are stupid for believing in it, are Republicans stupid for believing in it first and using it as a get out the vote tool for people to go and vote? Which came first, chicken or the egg?
SPEAKER 11 :
I would argue they didn't have to believe it to push it as a political narrative. They didn't have to actually believe it themselves in order to use it.
SPEAKER 22 :
I mean, story after story after story after story. I mean, he was even at a, this was, what is it, a G7 and he was asked about it. And he said, yes, people are, they're certainly going to take a look at it. This was, I mean, this goes back, you know, his first, I mean, this has been for forever. And so we go from all of these interviews, we go from all of these remarks on the campaign trail. And like I said, it's not just him. There's, you know, a ton of Republicans, everybody from Mike Johnson to Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ralph Norman, Tim Burchette, Eric Burleson, John Kennedy, Josh Hawley, Andrew Clyde, Andy Biggs, Thomas Massey, Chip Roy. I mean, do you want to go on? Pam Bondi talked about it repeatedly. This is from years ago. Everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, every elected Republican has talked about this. And now all of a sudden you're stupid for believing in it. Are you kidding me? This isn't going to work. This is not the way to handle your base. You can't sit here and tell people that these files existed and that this list existed and then turn around and go, oh, well, you guys are stupid for believing this. So they're stupid for believing you? Are they stupid for believing you and other Republicans? Did you do people? Again, this goes back to what I said a couple of weeks ago. No matter how you look at this story, you are being lied to. You're either being lied to in scenario A where there was never anything there ever. And it was just a story made up to get you agitated and mad so that you would definitely turn out to vote and maybe even bring people with you to vote and talk about it all online. And you would you would be under this belief that we have a two tier system of justice, which ultimately is what this case is about. The Epstein case is about two tiers of two tier system of justice. So either, as I said, scenario A, it was all fake from the get go. And you were all misled. We were all misled and lied to as a way to agitate for getting out the vote or scenario B. It's real. And some people have been somehow brought under control to continue with the cover up for some reason or another. Which is it? But either way, you're being lied to. There's no other option here. And what I don't like is I'm sitting here looking at interview after interview, transcript after transcript of people with their own mouths talking about this. And now they're going around saying it was a hoax. So were you in on the hoax? At what point did this become a hoax to you? This is what I don't like. Just be straight with people. Just be honest with them about this. Thomas Massey's announced plans to introduce a discharge petition in the U.S. House and the House of Representatives to force a vote on the release of the complete files. A lot of people upset about it. Marjorie Taylor Greene has endorsed it. And I don't get it because Trump, he called the Epstein scandal. I can't say this word. He tweeted it, though, Cain. It's BS. He said their new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And my past supporters have bought into this bull hook, line and sinker. I mean, he tweeted this. He put it out on true social. So he thinks it's a hoax. When did he realize that it was a hoax? Do you see what I'm saying? I mean, again, going back to I got transcripts of him on the campaign trail where he mentioned it and said we need to get to the bottom of it. I mean, what happened? He promised multiple times to declassify everything, including the alleged client list. This is true. I mean, this is gosh, there's too much online. To argue that he didn't. He said it on Fox and Friends. He said it repeatedly. So now he says it's a hoax and that, what was it, past supporters are buying into it? I am really confused and I get why everybody else is confused. Why is he doing this to himself? Just stop. I mean, he went off on this today. I can't even read some of the stuff he said. He had said the radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just like with the fake and fully discredited Steele dossier. The lying 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell in which dim sword come from Russia. No, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom, blah, blah, blah. He said their new scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. And he said, my past supporters have bought into this bull and they haven't learned their lesson and never will. OK, first off, this is completely separate from the Russian collusion story. And the Russian collusion story did not include Republicans that were going out saying that it was true, except for Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon was the one who called Donald Trump Jr. a traitor and went along with the Russian collusion story in the New York meeting. He absolutely did. And that's one of the reasons that Trump turned on him. And that's fact. So Republicans weren't the ones who were talking about this. This are talking about the Russian collusion stuff. That was Democrats. And that was proven demonstrably false. The Epstein case, he was in jail. He was convicted on existing evidence. Jelaine Maxwell went to jail for a reason. Jeffrey Epstein went to jail for a reason. It's not a scam if there was evidence to send them to jail. There is a huge, huge mass of files that we've been told by Republicans. Democrats did not tell us this. This was Republicans, including Trump. So how is this now suddenly a hoax? We got a lot more to hit as we move our partners that will bring you the program. It's the folks over at Relief Factor. A lot of people use Relief Factor to help manage daily aches and pains. And it's, you know, not unusual. I mean, gosh, this stuff can start in your 30s, depending on how active you were. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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The world's, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. This is horrible. The world's oldest marathon runner was mowed down and killed by a car, obviously, at the age of 114. Fauja Singh, a British Indian man, he was the world's oldest marathon runner, was killed at age 114 after he was hit by a car in India. He was crossing a road in a village and an unidentified car mowed him down. He was transported to the hospital by locals, but he succumbed to his injuries. They're investigating. I mean... How long do you think he would have lived if he hadn't been mowed down by a car? Oh my gosh. Imagine you're the person driving the car and you realize you hit a 114-year-old man.
SPEAKER 11 :
He didn't die of old age or sickness.
SPEAKER 22 :
No. Can we study him? Please. Please. I hope he donated his body to science or something. Oh my gosh. A man in a kilt. Broke the glass protecting the stone of destiny at a museum. Of course it was. He was promptly arrested. 35-year-old. It was in the Scottish city of Perth. He broke the glass came protecting an artifact that has been key to UK history for centuries. And they said, the police said, yes, we can confirm there was an incident at Perth Museum on Saturday of July. And they said that there was no damages to any artifacts on display. The object, it's the 336-pound Stone of Destiny, known as the Stone of Scone. And it is one of the most significant objects. It was used in the coronation of Scottish monarchs at Scone. It's a few miles up the River Tay in Perth. And the boy King Alexander III is the first monarch known to have been inaugurated in a ceremony that used the stone. And then it went on for that, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, it wasn't damaged, but he broke the glass. FDA approves blue color additive while encouraging faster phase out. So this is, what is this? Gardenia genipin? Explain that. You know this. I know you know this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. It's supposed to be an all natural.
SPEAKER 22 :
Is it from the gardenias?
SPEAKER 11 :
Honestly, I don't know about that, but I do know that it's an alternative that's much more healthy because it's derived from nature. Why do we need blue? It's not from a laboratory. Why? Because people buy blue things.
SPEAKER 22 :
Like food. It's food. Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Cakes.
SPEAKER 22 :
Okay. Maybe no.
SPEAKER 11 :
No?
SPEAKER 22 :
No. Like put a candle on it that's blue. Just do that. Artificial light after dark rewires the brain. I believe this. But I don't like all of the little light modifiers on everything because it hurts your eyes. So it's like a give and take. But apparently, yeah, it's a disrupted circadian rhythm. So you need to limit your screen use, all of it, at night. Stick with us. We've got a lot more in store as we do so. Our partners. Over at Angel Studios, you can become a guild member. And we always complain about everything's horrible in Hollywood. They just, oh my gosh, it's just the stuff that they put out. It's just rehashed, redone things of old ideas like over and over and over again. Not only that, but it seems like so much stuff has a problem with American exceptionalism. That's not where you're getting an Angel Studios. They have so many titles that you're probably not even aware of all the titles that they've released. But when you become a premium member, member of the angel studios guild you get free tickets to every theatrical release that they have you also get a free commercial free streaming all kinds of stuff and but you're also helping to green light what they're producing the stuff that they're putting out and their their projects are unapologetically american they're not condescendingly so it's not like they can come out with a film and they're like the point of this film is to be conservative they just write They have great scripts and they tell great stories that just also happen to celebrate American exceptionalism in a number of different ways. They have animated features for families, for kids. They have dramas, all kinds of stuff. And you can support this. You can join over a million Americans over at angel.com slash Dana and take back control of entertainment. Join the Angel Guild and help fund the future of storytelling that reflects your values. And premium members, they get free theater tickets, ad-free streaming, and more. Become a premium member today at That's angel.com slash Dana.
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He's a terrible, he's a terrible Fed chair. I was surprised he was appointed. I was surprised, frankly, that Biden put him in and extended him. But they did. So, no, we're not planning on doing anything. We're very concerned.
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So that's POTUS from just a little bit earlier, the meeting that he had with the – well, the press availability that he had with the leader of Bahrain. I've got to – we've got to have a little bit of clarification here. So in order to get onto the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, he was appointed by Barack Obama in 2012 to serve on the – Federal Reserve Board of Governors. So he was appointed by Obama in 2012. And I thought that was a long time that he was on that. I mean, that's, you know, from then until now, he's been involved with the Fed for a long time. In 2017, Trump nominated Powell to replace Janet Yellen. And this is after he won in 2016. 2017, Trump nominated Jerome Powell to replace Janet Yellen as the Federal Reserve chairman, right? So... And he got he was confirmed by the Senate and he assumed the role in beginning of February in 2018. And then he selected him for the chairmanship, but he didn't initially appoint him to the Federal Reserve System itself. That was Barack Obama. But he appointed him. He selected him from the Board of Governors. to become Fed chair. And then Powell was confirmed by the Senate to be Fed chair. And he assumed the chairmanship in February of 2018. So a little bit of clarity on that. Now, I was talking to Kane about this on break. I'm like, one thing, and sidebar before I dive into it, The idea that you can't criticize a politician because that means that you forfeit any and all like of them is the stupidest, most illiberal thing I've ever heard. That is hive mind thinking from the left. And I think the left, honestly, I think it's a psyop to get people from the right to kind of twist and turn on each other. I think there's... I think there are a lot of questionable people that are active on the right that one day history is going to show that they were not on the right. I'm just going to say that. But I think it's a big psychological mind job. You can criticize a politician and you can still support the politician. I can't believe I have to say this, but there are some that drive by that I have to say this for those people, the read with pictures crowd. He does not help himself with this. When you make a mistake, you take accountability. Now, one of the things Ken and I were talking about on break is that when it comes to Fauci and when it comes to Jerome Powell, one of the things Trump had said, he went in with the mission of draining the swamp. But then he was like, well, I thought they were telling the truth. So I cut them there. And then now we see what happened. So I need to be a little bit more hardcore about draining the swamp. But one thing that people don't want to see is a lack of accountability. That will test the patience and the fidelity of the most devout voter. And I think that POTUS needs to be super, super careful here. I have a couple of headlines because I see some of the maneuvering by some surrogates on the right. And they're going out there saying this is just a giant, you know, Democrat setup. This is Democrats that are laying out the found. They laid this narrative. They are they're doing all of this. But it's not, though. And I get that that makes it easier to herd people into behaving. Oh, well, if you tell them that, oh, well, this is a Democrat hoax, then they're going to stop supporting it. Right. But people know better because there have been too many people that have gone to his rallies and have heard him talk about this stuff. I mean, I gave you just a couple of segments ago a number. That's just the top of the tip of the glacier. A number of headlines where he's talked about it, his transcripts of speeches and interviews where he has said, yes, it's weird. You know, they need to release this stuff, etc., People want accountability. And when you tell them that something is a hoax after you promoted it as being true and used it as a reason to vote for you, people want to return on the investment of their vote. And you can't just turn around and tell them now that, oh, well, it's a hoax. Sorry, you believed it. Because that means you're part of the hoax. Think about this. For this to be a Democrat hoax, which I don't think it is. I don't like Democrats. I am on record as to disliking them more than most people and for a longer period of time. Yes, it was the hoax, the Russian collusion thing and the laptop and all that stuff, the false narratives they put out there. But those things do not mean that this thing is the same thing. Because Democrats weren't the ones that were pushing the Epstein stuff. That was Republicans. Republicans. And Republicans pushed it because it looked like it compromised Democrats more. You had Democrat politicians that were that were cozying up to Jeffrey Epstein flying on his plane. Democrat donors flying on his plane, going to his island. You know, he had a portrait of Bill Clinton in his house, for crying out loud. So it wasn't the only association that he had with Trump is that he would go to some of the same events Trump was at. They would have a society photographer that would take a picture and then Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago because he thought he was a creep. That's it. So I don't know why this is a hoax, because the number one reason that Republicans started talking about this is because it indicted Democrats hand over fist. And now it's a hoax. So you're telling me that when the administration arranged for that cheesy photo op in front of the White House with the binders full of information, we already knew that they were pretending was unreleased information. That was all a hoax. So that means you can't say that it was a hoax because then it means you're in on it. Do you see what I'm saying? It means you helped orchestrate it. Do you think that POTUS would have allowed these, you know, want to be influencers or whatever, to be in front of the White House with these binders full of, you know, nothing burgers, pretending that it was unreleased Epstein information? Do you think that he would have allowed that? Do you think that if he wasn't told, don't you think they had to run that by him? Yes. So that means he was in on it if it's a hoax. So I don't know why he's taking this path. I don't get it. Now, if there's nothing there, If there's nothing there, then release absolutely everything. Put up a, like they did with the USAID stuff, put up a website that has everything there or the Hunter laptop stuff. You guys saw that. You see how easy, you know how much was in the Hunter laptop stuff, videos and photos to say nothing of the texts and the emails. And that was all searchable by year, month and subject and everything. They did it with the USAID stuff too. They had it up there by category, how much, everything. Just release everything that is legal to release, meaning the excuses that I'm hearing from people about videos of molestation. Obviously, you can't put that up online because that's illegal. But the stuff that you can do, make it searchable so that there's full transparency. That's all people want is accountability. And No, even if there's an ongoing investigation, let's just say that there was an ongoing investigation that no one knows about just yet and that there's they're still looking at something and they don't want to compromise anything. Maybe all the people in power should have thought about that before they used it repeatedly as fuel for the fire to get people to vote. This is the downside of this stuff. If you're going to use it, then you've got to use it. Right? If you're going to use it, if you're going to talk about it, then you have to do it. You can't just, you know, pull it away. It doesn't work that way. It's like Chekhov's gun, right? The principle that if you're introduced this element in a story, then it has to serve a purpose. So like, you know, if you film starts and there's a gun hanging on the wall and the camera pans to it and for a second, it's, you know, that's the shot that's on screen. It's the rule of Chekhov's gun. That means it figures into the story later on and you must return to it. So this is the Chekhov's gun rule. You talked about it enough. Now you got to return to it. So that's I think it is so dangerous at this point before midterms for POTUS to say that it's a hoax or to say these things, because here's the problem. Mike Johnson is out there saying it's real. Where Trump is out there saying that there's Epstein files and they're going to release more. So they're not even centralized on messaging on this right now. You can see why people are confused and upset over it. They are all over the place. POTUS is on one spot. Johnson and Lara Trump are on another spot. Other Republicans are on another spot. There is no cohesion. That's danger, danger. They have to be cohesive on this. So I don't, and whatever it was, if there is some shenanigans with the different intel agencies, then make it all public. Because right now, what the Republican Party is doing, right now what the administration is doing, is they're running the risk of ticking off some of their supporters, longtime supporters. And I'm going to tell you something. A politician doesn't get to determine the fidelity of the supporter. That's not where the power lies. The voter gets to determine the measure of the politician's fidelity to them. Let's not get this twisted. So when you promise voters something, you better damn well deliver. And I think people, the longer this goes, the worse it's going to get. And this could turn into a real major problem for Republicans. And it doesn't have to. That's what's frustrating me so bad. It does not have to. If there is something that is preventing it or if they uncovered nothing, they need to just come out and go, OK, here's the deal. People are going to forgive someone going, you know what? I messed up and I was wrong on this. Of course, Democrats are always going to go crazy. Of course, the press is always going to go crazy. When don't they? They don't matter. They're not going to vote for Republicans anyway. So ignore that. The base that matters, the people that turn out to vote and the people that have genuine goodwill, they're going to go, you know what, that's right. And people do make mistakes. And we get how easy it is because look at how much smoke and mirrors the Intel community put up over the laptop and all this other stuff. That is the track that POTUS should be taking right now. Not this. Don't attack your voters. Never attack your voters. That's the golden rule of politics. Politicians never attack the voter ever. It's like the customer is always right. The voter is always right. You can't just go, well, it's a hoax and you're stupid if you believe it. My past supporters. Oh, my gosh. Please don't. Please do not. We're getting ready to kick off midterms. Oh, my gosh. Let's not do that. Do you, is there anything that I left out, Kane? Is there any disagreement? It's making me nervous. I don't want to lose the house, man.
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Yeah, no, I get it. I think your take is, you know, because you're seeing both sides of it, right? You see the people that have been told this and have been lied to the whole time. And you're seeing how Trump is handling it from this point of view. So everyone's handled it differently. The left was all about dismissing it back when we first remember that. And now they're all about it. So there's been a lot of coin flipping on this. And again, we're going to see what comes out in the wash.
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And remember, one of the reasons that Democrats, one of the reasons that Republicans talked about it so much and Democrats ignored it. You got to remember when this first came up, who was challenging Trump? Who challenged Trump in 2016 for the presidency? Hillary Clinton. Who is the biggest politician that's implicated in this Epstein stuff? Bill Clinton. But now she's not running for anything again. So that's not an issue, right? So now they have the safety of irrelevancy by saying, oh yeah, go ahead and release it now. Now they're sowing their oats. Oh yeah, go ahead and release it now. Because there's not anyone that is currently running that is going to be maligned as hard as Bill Clinton was going to be. So, I mean, even Democrats kind of like, yeah, Bill Clinton. Yeah, they even I mean, good grief. Carville even acknowledges it. So that's why that's how this all came up in the first place. We got more in store. Is TSA going to roll back liquid restrictions on flights? I'm just saying, if Kristi Noem makes this happen, I don't care how she dresses up. She can wear stilettos at the border for all I care. I don't care. I legit don't care. She can wear a catsuit and, you know, extensions and do the whole... I don't care. A girl can do whatever she wants to. If this changes... You know how Fetterman gets the hoodie pass? Well, she can have a pass too. I'm just saying I won't, I'll never care. I'll again, we're going to, we'll, we'll talk more about this coming up. We got Florida man. Yeah. Florida man on the way. The folks who help bring you the program and help make it possible. It's our friends over at a Berna gun. I always believe in carrying and I have no issue at all whatsoever. with using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. But I also understand that there are different needs that arise due to municipal restrictions or private property restrictions. And think of it, if you're a college student and you're not old enough yet to carry a handgun, but you live alone and you don't want to be left you know, to the Fates. Well, this is where Burna Gun comes in. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. Easy target acquisition and no recoil. And when you compare it to the average, you know, the capability of like a stun gun, et cetera, that's like one or two rounds. This is five rounds. And there's two different versions. They have rifles and all of that. But I think for this, you need to check out the SD or the CL. The CL is the new one. It's actually smaller. than the SD and means it's more concealable. And it's legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks required. There's no permits required. There's no waiting periods. It can be shipped right to your front door. So it's accessible for absolutely everyone. And it does not care about gun-free zone signs. So I would visit bruno.com slash Dana. Check out the SD model. That's their best-selling defensive pistol. Or the CL, which is smaller. I think it's like 38% smaller. than the SD. And you can also look at the projectiles and accessories and so much more. That's Berna.com slash Dana, the CL or the SD, B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. Berna, ready when you are.
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Don't do this ever. WSFA Channel 12. Florida Man uses finger guns to steal Waffle House napkins. Wait, what? Finger guns. Madison County, Florida. A Waffle House employee called 911 to report an attempted robbery. The suspect was unarmed and left simply after grabbing some napkins. Edward Rodriguez was identified as the assailant. He entered the Waffle House wearing a gray hoodie. He had a little dog. And then he shouted, get on the ground. Y'all getting robbed. And then he stated later he was high and drunk, grabbed napkins and walked out. He got into a vehicle and left the parking lot. He did not appear to have a weapon, but he did raise his hands in the shape of a finger gun. Yeah, you can't go and throw hands, finger guns or otherwise at a Waffle House. I'm surprised that the employees didn't like go into, you know, octagon mode and leap out from behind the counter and beat him down in the store. But also, I mean, would you not know that that was kind of a stupid joke? What would you do? Somebody walked in and was like, you're all getting robbed and had finger guns.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think there's a couple of factors here we need to know. How drunk was this person? How late was it? I don't know. But I don't know. I don't think I'd put up with any of that.
SPEAKER 22 :
Would you call 911?
SPEAKER 11 :
I don't think I'd call 911.
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Yeah, I mean, I would just have my shotgun. For napkins? Yeah, for napkins. I don't know. I don't know. Let's see here. We also have... A Florida man was arrested. He was trying to poison his ex's liquor bottle with bleach. Why? You can tell that stuff. I mean, even unless you're drinking. What am I thinking of? Oh, gosh. Then maybe.
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You could run vehicles off of that stuff.
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But I think that the place where we're seeing the most traction is senators who represent communities where there are large rural communities, large tribal communities, in particular in places like Alaska, where there just isn't a lot of other options. Broadband service is not universal, and heck, even cell phone service is not universal. There's a real understanding of the need there, as well as for emergency alerting, in which public media plays an extraordinarily important role.
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Okay, this is stupid. This is the NPR CEO, Catherine Maher, who's saying that, you know, rule Americans. Those dumb hicks out there, they don't have no way to get their news cane. They have no source of news. They have no connection to the outside world. NPR and PBS are the only way they learn anything. That's what she's saying about rural Americans. They just don't know nothing. If it wasn't for NPR and PBS, they just wouldn't know nothing. That's what she's alleging. Okay, that's so not true. So not true. Number one. Number two, even if it was, wouldn't they be blue? If that was the only way they could get their news, wouldn't those rural counties have gone blue? That's what I thought. I mean, you have local affiliates. I know my family in the Ozarks, they get their news from Cape Girardeau. They have their, what is it, Heartland News. Heartland News. I used to go to sleep at my grandparents' house listening to the outro. to Heartland News. And they would talk about the Heartland issues, right? Does she not realize that this is something that exists? And by the way, they have cell phone coverage out there. Has she ever been to rural America? You know what else rural America has? You guys are going to flip over this. They have electricity. And supermarkets. Just saying. Just saying. I have a lot of family that lives all over southern Missouri. And one of my favorite things is I had a great aunt that worked in a quick mart. And she had two cell phones because she did scrapbooking stuff on the side. You know somebody's a serious scrapbooker when they had like a separate little phone to sell their scrapbooking stuff. Like she would go to like little craft – what am I thinking of? Like little craft fairs and sell scrap – she like would make scrapbooking things, like little stuff to put in. So just case in point for the dudes who don't understand this, you know how your like Warhammer accessories – Like when you're doing tabletop or if you're doing D&D tabletop and you have all the little accoutrements for that. Okay. That's like the male version of scrapbooking in a way. So now the guys are like, oh, I totally get it now. Yeah.
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Makes sense.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. So she would like make all this stuff because that's – I never, ever – underestimate the scrapbooking population because they have like blades and stuff they have like exacto knives it's wild and um anyway she had like a whole other phone that she would use and she'd sit there you know at the she'd sit there at the gas station quick mart and she would you know be doing her job and then she would like field some calls for scrapbooking merchandise because if somebody's baby was a graduate in high school you know you gotta have that material for the scrapbook for it very important kane And they did crazy things like go to movies and go to the store. I mean, what does Catherine Marr think? It's not Mars. It's so stupid. They have coffee shops too, Catherine. Did you know? What? Oh, my gosh. What? Jiminy Christmas. That is some real coastal elitism on display there. By the way, has she also never heard of AM radio? Right? That's wild. And by the way, even if it was true, let me ask this question. Even if it was true in that all of the, the only way that rural America gets their news or anything is from NPR or PBS, then why is all of NPR and PBS's content seemingly geared towards like upscale urbanites? Right? All of it is. It doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I know people that would listen to NPR to fall asleep because it is so, you know what I mean? It's so slow and deliberate in their delivery of news and information.
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Because, Cain, that is the upscale urbanite way. Welcome to Upscale Urbanite Radio. I'm your hostess, the slowest to ever do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, my God. I just woke up. What happened? What? I don't know.
SPEAKER 22 :
We were all in a dream. I can't. I don't even know what's happening. What? All right. So, yeah, that's she's complaining because of the cuts to NPR and PBS. J.D. Vance broke the tie in the Senate last night. So they're going to reconcile that with the House. It looks like that. So it looks like it's going to go through. And I think the House, I think they're going to have everyone in the House on board. Even though they have a narrower margin, they had a super narrow margin in the Senate. So I think that's part of that $9.4 billion rescissions package. So it looks like that will go through. But her argument just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense at all. And it makes even less sense because you do have, and I hate saying it, but you do have like the Soros entities. They had... This funding apparatus where they were trying to fund local newsrooms were like affiliates even. They were trying to, which I thought was a way of warming in and trying to control content to fund local newsrooms for programming. But none of what she says is accurate. And I feel like these people, these coastal elites, they say this stuff and they have no idea really how rural America lives and what they do and what they watch and what they listen to. They just think that they probably literally live in a hut on the prairie. I think that's probably accurate. she um this in the npr lady she was uh she told cbs she said that um this is going to be devastating for local news stations it's going to create news deserts oh my gosh again no it's not that's not even the local affiliates are not relying even on pbs and npr so no and maybe you guys should have thought about that before you started acting as pravda So speaking of that bill, the bill, the rescissions package that went through the Senate last night, one of the things that came out today pull this up is the slowing of inflation, essentially. So This is one we're going to be talking to Charles Payne about this tomorrow because the latest inflation report showed a pull that, yes, people are spending less on travel. But and they're saying, oh, there's an increase in the cost of goods. Increase in the cost of goods, as I understand it, isn't related, though, to tariffs. And speaking of tariffs, one of the things, and Kane and I were talking about this on break, going back and forth on some of this stuff, is that when you look at PPI, and that's the producer price index, Does that include or exclude import price? And Rick Santelli was talking about this whole issue. And I thought I liked what he had to say here. I thought it was insightful. Listen to this. We have this cut.
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For the month of June, PPI comes in unchanged. Unchanged. We're expecting up to tens. Unchanged would be the smallest factor. inflationary wholesale increase in it since it was minus one tenth in March of this year. Strip out food and energy. It remains zero, unchanged, zero. And that would once again, that would come towards April when we were minus two tenths, which, by the way, was lowest inflation rate going all the way back to April of 2020.
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You know, it's amazing whenever I look at Rick Santelli, that guy, the reason that Trump is in office actually is because of Rick Santelli. Yeah, because Rick Santelli literally kicked off inadvertently, unknowingly, but he kicked off the tea party when he had that famous rant on live television about, you know, pay for your own stuff and, you know, taxed enough. And that was like the calling card that we used kicking. I mean, we all saw it. We're like, did you see? I mean, everybody was talking about it and his different. Quotes from his rant were used as like Tea Party protest slogans. And you wouldn't have Donald Trump without the Tea Party. He's always been so incredibly consistent and so incredibly accurate. So whenever Rick Santelli explains something, there's some economists out there that I think are too... tainted by partisanship, and they make it really political, where the rest of us, we just want to know the bare facts of it, because we know enough to operate in it, but we need insight from these experts. And I always feel like he has been incredibly fair, incredibly clear-sighted, and I just think that makes his analysis very insightful. I think Charles Payne is very similar to that, and we're I mean, this is all incredibly important. So it fell to 2.3%. That's right where it is, right? PPIs fell to 2.3%. So it decreased year over year, falling below 2.5%. And so what that is indicating is a cooler end producer level inflation. So there's no monthly price increase that's recorded. And then you have the core PPI, and that's what Rick Santelli was just explaining, that it is excluding the energy prices and the food prices. And that came in lower than expected at 2.6 against what they – they were forecasting 2.7, I think. And so that came in lower. And so now people are talking about, well, does this mean the Fed is going to – I mean, this is the prime time to have a rate reduction, right? To have a more relaxed monetary policy, to have a rate reduction. And that's the big question. with all of this. And Charles, I know is going to talk a lot about this later, but they're, I mean, they're saying that for the month of June, there was not the inflation did not grow. So that's significant. Sorry.
SPEAKER 11 :
The two big numbers, the PPI, obviously the producer's price index is different than the CPI, which is the consumer price. And so the CPI number, obviously it also is either lower or unchanged as well, which means, so these producers are, They have costs for material in order to produce what they produce. If their number is unchanged in regards to their output, that must mean that their input, they're either absorbing or they're also not getting a change there either. So that means the tariffs have had zero effect, as though the media explained to us early on that it was going to ruin the economy. It hasn't done anything close to that.
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Didn't every single forecaster say that it was going to be higher than what it came in at? Yep. Every one of them. So that does that mean that? So the way to look at it, the narrative is that Jerome Powell is either being too cautious or he's being political or is it both? Yeah, we're going to talk to Charles Payne about this coming up tomorrow. Also on deck here after headlines, is the TSA going to eliminate the restrictions on liquids, the bane of travelers' existence? There is another big announcement on the way, according to it's hinted by DHS Secretary Noem. So we're going to talk about that. And then also, did you guys see what Gavin Newsom did? Because he's trying to defend, obviously. He's trying to defend and showcase and brag about California. Except he tweeted out, his office tweeted out all these photos where they were saying that California is gorgeous, etc., etc. But they didn't use pictures of California. I can't make this up. So we've got to talk about this some more as we move. Our partners that help bring you the program, it's our friends over at Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile. is the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. But here's the thing. So you can save money a number of different ways. They have plans that are tailored to whatever it is that you need. Businesses of all sizes, families of all sizes, singles, dinks. I learned from John Taffer that that's dual income, no kids. They have something for everybody. And the Several big points. First off, you have great nationwide coverage. They operate on all three major networks, so you stay connected wherever it is that you go. So that's number one. Number two, your money is not working against you. So they don't spend the hard-earned dollars that you earn to pay for your service on things like gun control or DEI or... you know all that other nonsense that you vote against at the ballot box but you also get a free month of service with promo code dana it is so easy to switch i've been on this for over 10 years my whole family is on it i have never had an issue with patriot mobile whether anywhere in the country that i've traveled anywhere internationally that i've traveled uh it is great service and they have a u.s based customer service team that can get you set up in minutes i'm not kidding like in minutes they had my mom all switched up and set up in minutes and if she can do it i know you can Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get that free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom every time you make a call, every time you text, because you're literally doing that. PatriotMobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT, promo code Dana for that free month of service.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So a couple of things here. First and foremost, a drunken man with a knife forgot how to spell his name. Yeah. This, according to North Central Pennsylvania, Loyal Sock Township. Very interesting name. A woman called police, she opened her front door and a dude was holding a knife. First off, why would you open your door? I mean, always, you know, like you're just... 35-year-old, I cannot say his first name because there's lots of consonants. Zimmerman of Williamsport was holding a knife in front of the home. He... The police arrived. They gave him several commands. He finally dropped it. But he kept ignoring the commands afterwards, and they had to tase him. And then he couldn't remember his name. He smelled like a liquor bottle, slurred his speech, and he could not even spell his own name. Like out loud verbally. Couldn't spell his own name. So he is arraigned on August 11th. So he's that's that's really drunk. You know, you're drunk when it's. Yeah, let's see. Oh, I cannot. Oh, a Royal Navy sailor was arrested over a bomb hoax on a nuclear submarine that sent a naval man sent a naval base into lockdown. Yeah, you can't do that. He was sent to Britain's Trident nuclear submarine base into lockdown because he staged a bomb hoax prank and was arrested. Petty officer. It was on the HMS Vanguard. Triggered a major emergency response. And they called the bomb squad in. And they're like, we don't know if he just lost the plot. But he, yeah, it went horribly, horribly wrong. And he is in a lot of trouble now. Wow. You just don't do that. A Christian coffee shop owner who's helping the homeless is now facing protests in Colorado because it's Colorado. That's why, yeah. Jamie Sanchez, her coffee shop, or sorry, his coffee shop, it's called the Drip Cafe in Denver. And he runs a homeless ministry as well called Recycle God's Love. And they realized that a lot of people were struggling, et cetera, and they wanted to help out. And that has enraged the community because the community's bougie and they don't want to have homeless people around everywhere. And that's ultimately why they're mad. And they don't like the fact that... they and the people said they accused the cafe of being anti-gay even though they've never said anything he goes to church and so they're just assuming because the guy goes to church they don't like the amount of homeless people there and they also don't like the fact that the guys are christian and so they are attacking him for like no reason at all whatsoever and they've been trying to protest him and scaring some of the homeless people away who have been receiving free clothes and food it's like they i you know Some of these gay activists, honestly, like not everything is an invitation for you to make an ass of yourself and attention whore. Not every single thing is that. Like maybe they could pitch in and help out. That would go a lot longer of a way than going out there and attacking the guy. They're just mad because he's a Christian. They're openly hostile to Christians in Denver. Stick with us. We got a lot more in store.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this third hour. So TSA, you may, may, it's been hinted, the next big rollback might be liquid restrictions on flights. Department of Homeland Security suggested Wednesday that they're pushing for the TSA to ease up on its liquids, aerosols and gels rule. Now that the airport security has ditched the shoes off policy. Hallelujah, by the way. And I think it's smart if Noam is is going after all this stuff. I mean, she should. I'm like I said, I'll give her a pass on however she wants to look at any event or whatever she wants to do, whatever, you know, aesthetics she wants to tweak. I don't care. I'll give her a pass for everything. You make this a thing that happens, girl. I don't care if you wear a fur to the to the border as long as it's ethically sourced. I don't care. So, because right now you can only have 3.4 ounces of liquid with you. And this is what I don't, you know how stupid this all is? First off, when you're going through airport security, And this is all because of after 9-11 and you had the shoe bomber and I guess what was it? Somebody else had tried to set off some kind of bomb with a liquid. So they banned like regular size liquids and you had to have 3.4 ounces, which as everybody knows is teeny tiny. And it is so infuriating because you can't hardly get like the stuff that you use doesn't always come in travel size. And then you have to put it in these stupid little travel bottles and it's a pain in the backside. It's like a science experiment gone wrong in the bathroom. It's horrible to try to make it all happen. So I always thought it was weird that you would have to ditch all your liquids or water bottles or anything. Everybody throws everything in one trash can right there when you're going through security. And it's like, well, if that's suspect and you have to get rid of it because of potential explosiveness, you're all putting it in one trash can at your choke point. Now, if I'm playing a strategy game, You know, like, you know, with the family the other day, we're playing Earth Defense Force, right? You know, you want to get a choke point and then you set off an explosive, you know, at a choke point. You know, you get everybody going through there, you take out the enemy. I'm just saying that's, you know, it seems bad. I always get nervous when I, I'm always nervous going through TSA because of that reason. It's a choke point. I am never most heightened in terms of awareness as when I'm going through TSA. Because if I was a baddie and I wanted to do something, it would be at that choke point. It's right at the entrance, right in front. And that's, everybody's in a line. Everybody's waiting there. It's just like, I, it's the most mind boggling, insane thing I've ever seen. Anyway. And then the 3.4 ounces, my gosh, that's not enough for anything. What if you hate checking your bags like me? Because Murphy's law in terms of lost bag would always happen to me. So I don't check a bag. I can get everything I need in a week unless I absolutely have to. And if it's work related, if I'm like on a work trip and it's like a week long thing, maybe, but I always, I don't know what I'm speaking to this cruise that we're going. I'm the, the, uh, MRC thing. I have no idea what I'm going to do then. Cause that's international. I got to have three. Oh, and that's the other thing. If you're flying international, uh, Doesn't mean that they're all going to reduce their restrictions. That's just if you're flying domestically. So I don't know. But still, they give a few exceptions for a medication and infant formula and that. But if you want to fly with higher volume liquid, you have to put it in your check bags and then pray it doesn't get lost or wrecked. Because I've had I've had airlines crush my suitcase before. I've had one busted suitcase where it was just, I don't even know what happened. It looks like a velociraptor got a hold of it. And then I had one where they put it up and you get it on the jet bridge. And I mean, it literally crushed my suitcase. My wheels were busted. I had to like pick it up and carry it through. And that's when I got one of those super strong suitcases. And then they're just like, well, we'll give you $50. Hope nothing in it was broken, you know? So I don't know. I would hope because I hate having to carry everything in like my one personal item bag. And that's what I have to do. So I don't know. But the shoe thing is good. But taking out the liquids and all that stuff. I mean, aren't they also getting to the way that I understand it? They have like new scanners. So some airports have new scanners. And this is and I also wish that TSA at these security checkpoints would let people know in advance with a sign that. uh whether or not the the x-ray machine or the machines that you're putting your stuff through if you have to take that stuff out or not because i have flown where some of the newer machines you don't have to take your liquids out you can keep it in your bag and they just notice it but then if you take it out i mean i've had agents like scream at me for taking it out of my bag and i'm like there's literally no one this has always been the rule when was it not the rule you know it's like Please be kind to your travelers when you're going through because not everybody knows that you've switched up machines and that they don't have to take this out or they do have to take it out. I have literally flown through the same terminal and went through one time and they were like, don't take your stuff out. And then the next time I went through that exact same terminal, I got a different machine. I was in a different line. And then they're like, take your stuff out. Why is your stuff not on your back? It's like, because I didn't... That you, they need notices for this. That being said, I really hope, I really hope that they do this to fly domestically and be able to carry like, you know, a regular, not that I have giant, you know, super value size bottles of shampoo, but just being able to take like regular stuff. That would be nice. Sunblock is super important. Like when you're trapped for vacation, because it's so upmarked everywhere else. That's a big thing. It'd be nice. It'd be nice. A couple of other things. This is not so nice. Did you guys hear this story about the Annabelle doll? A paranormal investigator unexpectedly dies on the Annabelle haunted doll tour. Paranormal investigator Dan Rivera apparently died during his statewide tour that spotlighted the haunted doll Annabelle. I mean, that's a great promo. I'm just saying. According to TMZ, he was continuing his Devils on the Run tour in Gettysburg. And he's taking the Annabelle doll with him, as I understand it. Is that how it is? Yeah. So it's like the, it's like basic, how would you describe this doll? It's like a possessed doll. They made movies about this thing. And it's like this possessed doll and they keep it under lock and key and they it's that yeah, it's the doll that they made the the movie after and they're apparently they're going to continue the tour. But the doll apparently, it's a Raggedy Ann doll. And it was apparently reportedly possessed. And a woman got this in 1970 as a gift. And then they began experiencing strange stuff. And the doll would move on its own and left handwritten notes. And then they had a medium that's, you know, those famous Warren people, the Warrens or whatever. They came out and they're like, oh, that's a devil doll. So they kept it in their little museum under a lock and key. And so I just think it's creepy anyway. It looks creepy anyway, but he was bringing this doll across the country as part of the tour. Now he's passed to the other side. New England Society for Psychic Research, they're the group behind it. They announced it. Did he have health problems?
SPEAKER 11 :
They're not indicating as to what the cause of death is. Is he really dead? I would assume so.
SPEAKER 22 :
they have this doll in a box and it says, warning, positively do not open. And they have a weird red light. I don't know why the red light's there. I mean, it looks like a friendly enough little Raggedy Ann doll, but no. But they said that, I guess they're doing, the coroner's doing an investigation And firefighters and medical personnel, they were called to a hotel in Gettysburg Sunday night. And there was CPR in progress on a man who was the same age as this guy. And that's pretty much all everybody knows. And that came from the Adams County Dispatch Scanner Archives.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it looks here that the state police wrote in a release that, quote, nothing unusual or suspicious was observed at the scene. And the Adams County Coroner's Office also said that Rivera's death was not suspicious, adding that the results of a routine autopsy could take 30 to 60 days.
SPEAKER 22 :
the gettysburg portion of the tour hosted by ghostly images of gettysburg tours sold out totally they had over 1200 tickets sold out in three days uh and the tour's going on apparently now they're getting a ton i mean i'm just saying if you're gonna kick the bucket on a tour that you organize that's a great way to you know promote it i'm just saying i'm not trying to be like morbid or anything okay so the obvious question was it related to the doll We don't know, but now it's part of the legend.
SPEAKER 11 :
Will they tell us if the coroner finds out they can't really pinpoint an answer?
SPEAKER 22 :
I mean, are they going to say natural causes? Or are they going to be like, it looks like there were little cloth hand marks on his neck from this devil doll?
SPEAKER 11 :
What natural causes happen to somebody in their face?
SPEAKER 22 :
I would not want to go see it because it's weird. And none of that stuff really phases me. But my grandmother, you know, the one who came up with the rule in threes, death rule in threes, was super suspicious and totally believed in all this stuff. And I don't know. I don't know. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, it could be the doll. Could be.
SPEAKER 22 :
It could be. You're right. It could be. Also weird. I don't know if you guys saw what Gavin Newsom just got bopped for doing. So he was... I guess trying to dunk on when POTUS said, uh, Democrat States were blank holes, poo holes, basically. Right. And the governor Newsom press office tweeted out for photos. One photo was like, uh, that was the curvy street in San Francisco. And then there's another like, like street, you know, main street kind of thing. And then a little park and then a big old bridge. Right. And, uh, He made a mistake. A couple mistakes, actually. So the park, the photo that you're looking at that Juan is showing you on the simulcast, it's in the lower left. And you're lower left. And it's the water with the rocks. So that's Sand Park in Nevada. So make California, Nevada sand. Brendan Carr even noticed it and said, oops, Gavin Newsom, you posted a picture here from the Republican run state of Nevada. Sand Harbor, Nevada. Don't they have a Democrat governor? Sand Harbor, Nevada is a great state park, though. But there's more. The two of the pictures are eight years old. And the other is 11 years old. So two of the pictures, and you can kind of tell from the cars in one of the pictures just how old it is. And yeah, it's like... I mean, I guess he can't show a current photo of like the wildfire destruction or the drug dealers and the needles and feces. I mean, showing a big giant homeless turd on the sidewalk is probably more accurate. So the other photos are 11 years old and eight years old. There's literally nothing that he has shown in the past five years here. And then the one from Nevada. Wow. Yeah. Why would you have like and you can tell it's an old photo because look at the cars in that picture. It's old. Those are old cars. It was one of the first things I noticed. I was like, those are old cars. They're older cars. So that was that was really bad. That was really bad on his part. But here's the other thing. I forgot about this. Did you guys know that the next Olympics are going to be in L.A.? They're going to be in Los Angeles. How? How is that going to happen? I mean, are they capable of doing this? Are they going to be able to actually keep everybody safe? The 2028 Summer Olympics. Now, just think about this for a moment. This is the summer of a presidential election right before fall, right? So it's going to kick off mid-July. And go all the way to the end of the month in Los Angeles, a presidential election year, right before they go into the final, the finish line of fall. This is going to be the most insane time ever. If you're a Democrat, are you worried about that timing because you know Los Angeles is bad and you know that it's a mess? And I it's going to get there. How what are they going to do? They're going to have tons of protests. They're going to have to get police out there. Then there's going to be stories of brutality. It's going to be crazy. Oh, my gosh. Because you're going to have all of those antagonists that are going to be looking to seize attention for whatever cause they want from this event. Out of any Olympics, this is what I would not go to. I mean, I'm not interested in going to them anyway, but I would not go to this one. That just seems very unsafe. The closing ceremony is going to be the LA Memorial Coliseum. The first medal is going to be in Venice Beach. I have friends that live in Venice Beach and they're fighting off homeless and then they've had protests. How is that going to happen? Are they going to do what China did and they went in and literally scooped up people and transported them to the rural countryside and made them stay there? That's what they did in Beijing.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's kind of what Gavin Newsom did when she came and visited, if you remember.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER 11 :
They took all the homeless out, cleaned up the streets really quick for that two-day op.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah, it was good.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, my gosh. So, again, Olympics in L.A., the summer of a presidential election year. I'm just saying, I hope Republicans, which they're not, because... But if I were the RNC, which I have no idea what they're doing, I would already be preparing the templates for ads for this because it is going to be a hot mess. We have a lot more on the way as we roll towards today in stupidity.
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Welcome back to the program. Make sure you sign up over at Substack Chapter and Verse because I'm going to put out a piece that just kind of goes over some of the stuff with the Epstein back and forth. And I really, I don't know, I don't know, maybe... I don't know if anybody's advising him. I don't think anybody's advising him. But, I mean, I really think it's just bad for the president to go at voters like this, his own supporters, and say, because he had put on Truth Social, I don't want their support. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, what are you doing? We're going into a midterm year. Please, for the love of all things holy, don't say that. Stop it. Why does he do this? Why? Oh, my gosh. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Someone tell him to not do this, please. I don't even care who it is. Just someone please stop. Stop the man. If you see him getting his phone to post on True Social about this, you sneeze and act like you're falling over and knock it out of his hand. I don't care. I don't care. No jury would convict you. All right. Today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 11 :
Can we make it Gavin Newsom? Always.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
Juan, let's just play Cut 16. It kind of makes me chuckle though to hear it, but go ahead and play.
SPEAKER 12 :
All that reputational damage that's being done as they're sitting there on horses with American flags running through soccer fields, scaring kids that are playing soccer in the middle of the day at a summer camp. For what? Just toughness. It's a weakness masquerading as strength. That's what I don't like about this son of a b****. I don't. Forgive me. I know he's the president of the United States. Forgive me. I didn't.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 12 :
He is so easy to read. Listen, you know, come on. How do I explain that to my kid? He calls me noose gum. How do I explain that to my kid?
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, my gosh. Just be like, I mean, it's politics. Grow up. This is so he's he's good with messaging, but he's not a great actor. We see this. We see it. I'll be up on Will Kane show on Fox coming up later this afternoon. Find us YouTube, Facebook. Good night.
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Joey Hudson navigates through pressing topics as he sits in for Mike Gallagher. Starting with the White House's release of an interactive map to aid citizens in understanding the benefits of a new bill, the episode quickly turns to the House Speaker's demand for transparency on the Epstein case. As media narratives unfold, the public reacts to claims of non-existent client lists and weighs in on the credibility of past investigations. This episode also highlights practical elements like weight loss success stories and calls for humanitarian aid in flood-stricken Texas, showcasing the diverse aspects of reality tv and political discourse.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, from your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel, and broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Joey Hudson.
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Welcome in on this Wednesday edition of the Mike Gallagher Show. Joey Hudson in for Mike. Mike will return tomorrow. Boy, we have a busy day for you. The Biden auto pen saga continues. Yesterday, President Trump asked his administration, those in the White House, to launch its own investigation, which reporters say could involve going through in fine detail over a million documents. that potentially were related to Joe Biden's auto pen. We're learning that there were hundreds and hundreds of last-minute pardons that were signed by the auto pen. We don't even know, and we suspect that Joe Biden did not know who these people were. We're going to talk about that a little bit later in this hour. Also, the White House rolled out an interactive map yesterday that will allow you to see firsthand how the One Big Beautiful Bill could potentially benefit you. You can just go online, you can click on it, and it will bring up state-specific information for your particular state. We're going to be sharing that with you a little bit later as well. Breaking news overnight, though, as the the story that just won't go away, the Jeffrey Epstein story. In a rare move, the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, is urging the Justice Department to make public all files related to Jeffrey Epstein. Now, I say this is a rare move because the Speaker typically stays in line with the message coming from President Trump in the White House. Yesterday, President Trump seemed to be a little uncertain as to what all the fuss is about. Why we continue to talk about Jeffrey Epstein. He talked about the fact that he's been dead for quite some time now. And we're going to get to that in just a moment. But Speaker Johnson asked yesterday that Attorney General Pam Bondi ask her to clarify her previous comments about possessing a so-called client list that was tied to Epstein's network. Johnson said, it's a very delicate subject, but you should put everything out there. Let the people decide. And that's what I'm hearing a lot from you, is you want to see it, and then you'll decide just how important or not important it is. Johnson told conservative podcaster Benny Johnson in an interview that was released shortly after he and other Republicans blocked a House vote yesterday that Democrats framed as a push for the White House to hand over the files. Johnson said, look, we need the information out there so that we all can make our own choices. Here's Speaker Johnson.
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I'm for transparency. We're intellectually consistent in this. Look, Reagan used to tell us we should trust the American people. I believe in that principle. I know President Trump does as well, and I trust him. I mean, he put together a team of his choosing, and they're doing a great job. It's a very delicate subject, but we should put everything out there and let the people decide it. I mean, the White House and the White House team are privy to facts that I don't know. I mean, this isn't my lane. I haven't been involved in that. But I agree with the sentiment that we need to put it out there. And, you know... Pam Bondi, I don't know, when she originally made the statement, I think she was talking about documents, as I understood it, that were on her desk. I don't know that she was specific about a list or whatever, but she needs to come forward and explain that to everybody.
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Speaker Mike Johnson, and again, the Washington Post reporting that the speaker has never broken so publicly with President Trump on an issue. Multiple factions have emerged amid the MAGA movement. Because I think a lot of people are just disillusioned. They're confused on why this information is not being released. I mean, let me ask you, do you believe the Attorney General when she says that there is no list? Maybe we spent the last several years thinking there was a list. A lot of people told us there was a list. And in an earlier statement earlier this year, the Attorney General herself suggested there was a list. When she very publicly talked about the fact that she had the files on her desk, Now, was she just talking generically, meaning that there were files on her desk and she hadn't had a chance to review them yet and she didn't know what was in them? Is that what she was saying? And then as she got into the files, she realized, hey, there's no list here. Is that believable? The president yesterday, in talking with reporters, said, seem to be a bit mystified on what all the fuss is about. In cut number one, the president talking to reporters saying, hey, why are we still talking about Epstein? Here's the president.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story? I don't understand. I don't understand why they would be so interested. He's dead for a long time. He was never a big factor in terms of life. I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is. I really don't. And the credible information has been given. Don't forget, we went through years of the Mueller witch hunt and all of the different things, the Steele dossier, which was all fake. All that information was fake. But I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It's pretty boring stuff. It's sordid, but it's boring. And I don't understand why it keeps going. I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going. But credible information, let them give it. Anything that's credible, I would say let them have it.
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And I would say that's the best thing, Mr. President. Let's just put it all out there so that we can see it and then we can decide for ourselves. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Do you agree with the President? Are you a bit mystified on what all the fuss is about? Or... Do you think that maybe there's just a little something going on here deep in the DOJ that maybe even the president doesn't know about on why Pam Bondi would not want to put this information out there? Or at least give a better explanation on why that information is not available. Do you believe that there is no list? Do you believe that for all these years that we've been convinced that there was a client list that was going to be damaging for a lot of people? Do you think that list actually does not exist? 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453, your call. You can text me on the MyPillow text line. I always use promo code MikeG when you go to MyPillow.com and place those orders. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today.
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Joey Hudson in for Mike today. Portions of today's show made possible by Hotel Harkness. Hotel Harkness is in my home state of South Carolina, upstate South Carolina. Travel and Leisure World rates it the number one resort in South Carolina, the third best in the United States, and number 24 worldwide. in the world, and it's right here in my hometown of upstate South Carolina. It's where Mike stays when he visits with us. You can stay there, too. Go to hotelheartness.com, hotelheartness.com. A lot of text messages coming in on the MyPillow text line, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Yours is welcome, as well. A texter says, I don't care, and I'm sick of hearing about it. Let's move on. There are so many other things to talk about. Talking about the Epstein files, of course, and the case. Are you tired of hearing about it? According to a CNN poll, most Americans are not tired of hearing about it. Most Americans want to know the truth. They want to know what's really going on. According to this poll that was taken over the past week, 3% of Americans said that they were satisfied with the amount of information that's been released, while 50% reported being dissatisfied. So it appears there are very few people who believe that we have gotten the truth. It found that 43% of respondents in the Republican group said they were satisfied. So 43% of Republicans aren't happy with the information that we have so far. As expected, 60% of those who lean Democrat say the same, that we're just not getting the information needed on Epstein. What about you? 800-655-6453. You can text me on the MyFellow message line. Let's go back to the phones. Judy is in the upstate of South Carolina. Welcome, Judy, on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think that they aren't releasing the files because people are having a hard time separating people who might have flown on this plane, people who did business with them, from people who were worried about having been in his group. And they don't know how to sort that out and release it to the public without a bunch of conspiracy theories. And they're not going to get any cooperation from any politicians so long as that information is not out there and everything Trump wants to do is going to stall.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So, Judy, if that is the case, if what you're saying is right, why don't they just say that? Why did Pam Bondi say that there is no list? Why didn't she just say that, hey, we have the list, we're still sorting through it?
SPEAKER 06 :
I have no idea because I'm not Pam Bondi, but if I were, I think I would have released it in sections like, okay, here's people who Just throw it on the plate. Doesn't mean they had anything to do with it. Here's people who just did business with them. Now, we still have one more list coming of people who actually were on the island, who may have been to his parties, not a normal party, and done it that way. And at least people would begin to have some kind of belief that they're not just covering everything up. I mean, there's some wild rumors that it's Trump's family and all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because right now, Judy, people do believe it's being covered up, don't they?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah. Hey, appreciate your phone call. Thanks for listening. 800-655-6453. One line open. John is in Southern California. John, you're on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, how are you doing, man? Can you hear me okay?
SPEAKER 09 :
Loud and clear. What's on your mind?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I mean, this Epstein thing, I've got a couple things on my mind about it. One... I think this is the first time I've ever disagreed with Trump, and I've voted for him three times. And another thing that really frustrates me about it is there's a lot of information out there about Epstein's – I think it was his father-in-law being tied to the Israeli government. I think he was like some kind of a spy. So there's a lot of implications with that and them having this evidence and – You know, what do you call it? It's like when they they have the videos, but they don't want to release them and they're holding it against. They're holding it against all the politicians to get their will done.
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Sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's what a lot of people think. And another thing that people need to realize is that this is about this is about pedophilia. This is a pedophile ring. So I don't hear people say that very often. But I mean, when you think about this. This is one of the most heinous things that's ever been. And I think that I think Trump is completely wrong. And another thing, one more thing, Trump and people need to realize this. Trump doesn't control MAGA. MAGA is not like some creepy left thing. Trump does not control MAGA. MAGA is bigger than Trump. And so when you say that MAGA is fractured, earlier I heard you say that. I totally am sorry, but I have to disagree with you on that. And I'm curious why you think that. And also I have a follow-up on my opinion of that as well, if you don't mind. Sure.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, John, it's real simple. I mean, just seeing some of the people that I associate with MAGA that have been supporters of Trump are saying that, well, you know, they're disagreeing with the president. Yesterday the president kind of just downgraded this, saying, you know, what's the big fuss? Why are people suddenly interested in Epstein? Well, people have always been interested in Epstein. So some of the people that have traditionally been supportive of the president are disagreeing with him right now and saying that this information needs to be released. So that's why I say there's a bit of a fracture happening here.
SPEAKER 12 :
I understand there will be some blind followers that do follow like that, but in my opinion, I don't think MAGA supporters are stupid at all. I think MAGA supporters are actually probably the more intelligent of voters that are out there, and I think they're the people that are sick of it and have been dealing with it and paying attention to what's been going on more than anybody.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I would I would agree with you, John. MAGA voters are very high information voters, as the president would say. And look, it's just the whole thing is a bit disturbing because I'm like so many of you. I believe that there is a list. I believe there's always been a list. And I'm not quite sure why President Trump's Department of Justice, why Pam Bondi wants us to think now that there's not a list. Text her on the MyPillow text line. I could care less about Epstein. Well, you know, I'm hearing that too. Text her. Hey, I'm not on either side. Just have a disagreement. Shake hands and walk away. Why all the drama from all of this? Absolutely ridiculous. Your comments are welcome on the MyPillow text line as well. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. I'm Joey Hudson. In for Mike.
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SPEAKER 04 :
He's a communist and he's a pure communist. I think he admits it, but I can't imagine it, but... Let's say this. If he does get in, I'm going to be president and he's going to have to do the right thing. But they're not getting any money. He's got to do the right thing. It's shocking that I would have assumed that I never I used to say we will never have a socialist in this country. No, but we'll have a communist. I mean, he's a communist and going to be mayor of New York.
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In the relief factor dot com studios. Here's Mike.
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And Joey Hudson in for Mike today. Mike will be back tomorrow. Glad to have you. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can text me on the MyPillow text line. You can call. Tracy will put you in queue. We'll talk as time permits. And you can email me directly, joey at joeyhudson.com. Either way, I hope you will join the conversation. A lot of you are texting on the MyPillow text line. A texter says, Bondi said that the file was on her desk. She didn't say she saw the actual list or even had an actual list. And maybe so. Maybe she was talking in general terms. I think when she talked about the fact that she had it on her desk, people assumed that this list that we've all been told about for so long was there. And I think also Pam Bondi may have – kind of painted herself into a corner here. Back early on, you may recall how she distributed some of those three-ring binders that supposedly was full of all this new data from the Epstein files. And she had some of these young influencers outside of the White House showing these binders, but they wouldn't tell us what was in it initially because they said it was embargoed. Then the next day it was released only to be some of the same information that we'd seen before, nothing new. I think she has kind of built this case up only for it to just sort of flop, if you will, when she announced last week that, hey, there's no list, sorry. You've pretty much seen everything that we have. I think people just aren't believing it. And a caller earlier asked me, well, what am I basing my premise of that this is dividing MAGA? Well, you look at President Trump's approval rating. His latest approval rating was just under a 50. When he gets into the high 40s, that's when there's trouble. And it dropped pretty quickly, primarily, I believe, because of the way this has been handled. Now, he can quickly recover. All he has to do is to instruct the DOJ to give us all the information. Let us decide. That's basically what House Speaker Mike Johnson is saying. And that's another example of someone who Mike Johnson, like him or not, He's pretty much been loyal to President Trump. Yesterday, he kind of broke with President Trump, saying everything should be released so that you and I can decide for ourselves. Another texter says, Biden's DOJ had four years with that file. You don't think some evidence could have been destroyed? Maybe so. Maybe so. We'll see. Your text messages are welcome on the MyPillow text line. Speaking of MyPillow, you know our friend Mike Lindell has a passion to help everybody get the very best night's sleep. And he didn't stop by simply creating the best pillow or the best towels or the best sheets. He's done it again with his MySlippers. If you want the most comfortable slippers you've ever owned, go to MyPillow.com right now or call 800-928-6034. Give them promo code MikeG so you get the very best deal. Listen to this. The MySlippers originally priced at $149.98 for a limited time. When you use promo code MikeG, you're going to get them for just $39.98. I have multiple pairs of my slippers. They're comfortable. They're durable. You can wear them anywhere. They're not just for around the house or in the house. I've told the story many times of my buddy Dennis, who's a listener down in the northeast Georgia area. He sent me photos of himself sitting in his deer stand with his MySlippers on. He wears them, honey. You can get the best deal that I've seen recently for just $39.98 when you use promo code MikeG. Go to MyPillow.com Use promo code MikeG. Back to the phones. Let's start with Mark in St. Paul. Welcome, Mark. How are you?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm great. Thank you, Joey. Hey, just real quickly, you know, everybody is screaming for information, and we all get it, right? My question is, you know, are people prepared for it? Meaning, you know, what if there are Israeli people involved, like has been rumored? and suddenly Congress decides they're going to pull all funding from Israel, and then the Middle East blows up. Everything we've been working for blows up in the Middle East because what? We had to find out Epstein stuff. What if there are CEOs involved of major Fortune 100 companies? Well, now we're going to boycott all those companies, of course, right? The stock market's going to tank. right everybody's 401k he's going to tank right so i think people have to understand no one wants and you know trump right he's downplaying it because that's what trump does he's the master salesman so i think you know we have to trust The president, we've trusted him all along. It's worked out, I think, very, very well. Right. So I think, you know, I know Tom Fitton's got a FOIA request out there. Right. Maybe some of this stuff comes out through FOIA and other things where Trump then isn't the bad guy if there are other world leaders and things like that involved. So I think we've got to tap the brakes and trust the president. Hey, thank you for your time.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, sure thing. Appreciate your phone call. 800-655-6453, one line open. Yesterday, Republican Representative Thomas Massey from Kentucky introduced what is called a discharge petition, which would force a vote in the House of Representatives to fully release all Jeffrey Epstein cases. Now, you might think, well, typically the speaker might— not allow this to come to a vote. He may not put it on the calendar. But with Speaker Mike Johnson yesterday telling Benny Johnson on his podcast that he thinks it should all be released, I think there's a chance that this passes. And as the caller mentioned a minute ago, the president, I don't know, is he downplaying it? Or does he just really believe there's nothing there? He has repeatedly expressed his support of Attorney General Pam Bondi, that she's doing a good job. He wrote a very long post on True Social yesterday. I'm not going to read it all, but he basically talked about how you just can't believe some of this stuff. And he reminds us of how just a few years ago it was Russia, Russia, Russia. And I think he's suggesting that maybe the media is making more of the Epstein case than there really is. He wrote, The president said, I've had more success in six months than perhaps any president in our country's history, and all these people want to talk about with strong prodding by the fake news and the success star of Dems is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. 800-655-6453. Judy is in. Welcome, Judy. You're on the Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, big trafficking news. State, did you know or do your audience know that Trump put out four executive orders starting in February 17 to stop human, child, adult, all kinds, and even Indian trafficking? This man is so passionate about trafficking, no one has ever matched it. He's the only president to ever put these executive orders out, as well as backed them up with nine bills, nine legislative bills. to back that up. He has talked on it. He's helped people. This is not something that he is doing purposely. He's getting all eyes on this subject. And for the sake of even his reputation going down the toilet, he is getting everybody on this subject. But he is not slight. I have a flyer I put out to thousands here in Arizona because we're so big. And at the end of it, he says he went up against The corporations, he went up the government, he went up against educational sector, the media, religious institutions, all of it because they're involved. So much of the people are involved. So this man is not lukewarm on this subject matter.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it's an important matter, Judy. Appreciate your phone call. And you're right. I don't think President Trump is going to look the other way when it comes to trafficking some of these young kids or anybody for that matter.
SPEAKER 05 :
um all right marla is in connecticut welcome marla you're on the mike gallagher show thank you for taking my call well many people are talking about epstein what about all the victims in 2006 he was arrested in west palm beach and he pleaded guilty to many things including prostitution he served 13 months in prison and it was pretty much swept under the under the covers because um the police chief there was very unhappy with the state's attorney at the time feeling he tanked his own case a 14 year old stepmother came forward when um it came to light that she had been at his place and um there had been um sexual contact going on 36 victims turned out but um he got day release and he stayed for 13 months he got out every day for work release And it all sort of just tainted. Pedophiles don't change. I've been a nurse for over 50 years now, and pedophiles just don't change.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, Marla, let me ask you, Marla, and you make a good point about the victims, but do you think that if there is a list that it should not be released?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I think that everything should be released. Many victims, after that happened, many of the victims did not come forward because they were pretty shabbily treated. The other thing is, Grisline, that's in jail, she's in there because of sex trafficking when she was with him. And she's got 20 years. Nobody takes 20 years if it didn't really happen. So I just think we're forgetting the victims, we're forgetting a long line of things that happened, and we're forgetting that if you ask any law enforcement person or medical person pretty much, they're going to tell you that pedophiles don't change.
SPEAKER 09 :
And look, I don't disagree with that. We've seen that over and over. There's a lot of medical professionals, psychologists, psychiatrists who will tell you that. They can't help themselves. It's like an alcoholic. You're always an alcoholic. Appreciate your phone call, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. You can also text me on the MyPillow text line as well. Quickly, back to the phones. John is in Spartanburg. Is that North Carolina or South Carolina?
SPEAKER 10 :
South Carolina, Joy. Down here, where you at?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah, welcome, John. You're on the Mike Gallagher show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, sir. Yeah, this is my opinion. I think you ought to release the files, but I'll tell you where the problem started at. is when Mr. President Donald Trump got this Attorney General, Pam, from Florida, because she's the one, the guy that shot the black man down there in Florida, she's the one that tried to get the man that shot him in self-defense prosecuted. Remember that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I do remember the case, yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, she never should have been brought under the Attorney General.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but you know, the president, and you may be right, John, but the president again, Pam Bondi, the president again yesterday expressed his support, said that she's doing a good job. We'll see. 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. I'm Joey Hudson, in for Mike today.
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Mike Gallagher. Joey Hudson in for Mike today, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453 is how you join the conversation. You can text me. You can call. Tracy will put you in queue. We'll talk as time permits. And I also welcome your emails, joey at joeyhudson.com. Hey, let me invite you also to join me on my daily podcast, Joey Hudson, Just the Truth. You can listen wherever you listen to podcasts. Just search for Joey Hudson, Just the Truth. Hope you'll join the conversation. Yesterday was another long, painful day for relief workers in the Texas Hill Country. It's just a sad, sad story that continues out of Texas. They faced new threats of heavy flooding while they continued to try to search for the victims of this catastrophic Fourth of July flooding. They left dozens dead, even more still missing. His tough work is both physically and emotionally tough, but the work goes on around the clock. Elite forensic divers from across the country giving their time and money to search for bodies. How dangerous is this recovery work?
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There is a bit of risk to it just because of the visibility. We don't have any visibility at all, so everything's by feel. It was because of the amount of kids that were lost. We felt the need to come down and do our part. This is Americans helping other Americans is what it's all about.
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As the episode progresses, guest speakers dive into the National Education Association's controversial position within the political sphere, analyzing the structure and purpose of its federal charter. The conversation transitions into a legal analysis of the Fourth Circuit Court's decision supporting West Virginia's pro-life legislation, as explained by Erin Hawley from the Alliance Defending Freedom. This episode ultimately challenges listeners to consider their roles in the current political and cultural landscapes, encouraging civic engagement and action.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and sound bites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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I appreciate all the work the administration has done in identifying wasteful spending. And now it's time for the Senate to do its part to cut some of that waste out of the budget. It's a small but important step toward fiscal sanity that we all should be able to agree is long overdue.
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That was Senate Republican Leader John Thune earlier today as the Senate moves toward a final vote on the Trump administration's now $9 billion rescissions package. Welcome to Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Glad you're tuning in. The measure advanced last night after a dramatic 50-50 vote. Vice President J.D. Vance cast the tie-breaking vote after three Republicans broke ranks. North Carolina Senator Ted Budd joins us in just a moment to... Tell us what's happening behind the scenes. Also ahead, a major pro-life victory in the courts. The Fourth Circuit upheld West Virginia's Unborn Child Protection Act, a law that protects life in part by restricting chemical abortions using mifeprestone. The court ruled that the state, not just the FDA, has a right to safeguard its citizens. We'll talk with Erin Hawley from Alliance Defending Freedom, who argued on behalf of the West Virginia law.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's all been a big hoax. It's perpetrated by the Democrats. And some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net. And so they try and do the Democrats' work. Instead of talking about the things we've achieved, we've had tremendous achievement. They're wasting their time with a guy who obviously has some very serious problems, who died three, four years ago.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was President Trump earlier today responding to growing calls to release the Epstein files. We'll get the latest from Judicial Watch President Tom Fenton. Also, Washington's Sam McCarthy will provide some history on the controversy surrounding Jeffrey Epstein.
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and later. The National Education Association's time is over. The NEA was created to champion America's teachers and serve our schools, but it has spiraled into a partisan machine that's more about radical ideology than education.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was North Carolina Congressman Mark Harris proposing to repeal the federal charter of the National Education Association. He'll join us later to explain why he believes the NEA has abandoned America's students. All of that and more coming up on this edition of Washington Watch. Well, Congress is just two days away from the deadline to pass the White House's first rescissions package. If passed, it would codify the cuts in funding for NPR, PBS and USAID, among many woke priorities. Just yesterday, the rescissions package cleared its first procedural vote with the help of the vice president. As the bill proceeds, Democrats are doing what they do best, lie.
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Donald Trump's hatred of foreign aid has nothing to do with making government more efficient. Republicans do not care about eliminating waste. They simply want to cut funding and the consequences, even if it means kids starve to death abroad. It's incomprehensibly mean-spirited.
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That, of course, was Minority Leader Senator Chuck Schumer. Here now to share more is Senator Ted Budd of North Carolina, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Senator Budd, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Glad to be here. Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, Senator, give us the latest on the rescissions package. Where does it stand?
SPEAKER 07 :
We are in the voterama right now. So by doing this precision package, the deadline is Friday and we have to get this done. Hopefully we'll get it done by midnight tonight. The Democrats are throwing up obstacle after obstacle on the floor as we speak. So I am in between votes in this voterama right now as we speak. And they are trying to put out amendments that essentially would kill this bill. and take back $9 billion because there's so many things in there that would promote their leftist agenda that we're trying to take back. We're trying to rein in the intent of the taxpayers when they sent their tax dollars to Washington, D.C. The things that are being rescinded right now in this rescission package are not things that are good for the American taxpayer. It's leftist agenda things. It's horrible stuff that we don't need to be spending our taxpayer dollars on.
SPEAKER 08 :
Agreed. But so let me ask you this, Senator. You had some Republicans, some of your colleagues that that caved on four hundred million dollars on PEPFAR funding when that's a program that has ballooned over the course of its almost quarter of a century of existence. And you talk about woke policies. I mean, it's filled with them.
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IT'S NOT A GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND IT'S JUST WRONGHEADED POLICY ALL AROUND. IT'S IMMORAL. THAT WAS BROUGHT ABOUT BY JOE BIDEN. You're correct. You're correct, but we've got to fix it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, when it started out, I was here in 2003 when it started. It started out at $1.5 billion a year. Now, last allocation was $7.1 billion. I mean, it's just over a 300% increase, and as you pointed out, It's wrongheaded policies.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just way too much spending and it's on the wrong things. And so we need to rescind it. We'll have to look at it in another package and get at it another way. But a goal for the rest of the $9 billion is we got to do this by Friday. We need 50 votes plus one to do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I hope you get there. This is a step in the right direction. I'd like to see more, but it's a good step in the right direction. Before I go, I want to go to the National Defense Authorization Act. You have some measures. You're on the Defense Committee. But before we do that, you were over in the House. You're now over in the Senate. You've had enough time under your belt there in the Senate. Compare the House to the Senate. Which chamber seems to be more aggressive in getting things done?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's going to depend on Congress by Congress. In the 119th Congress, I'd say that we've taken more votes than any Senate in history, and that's under Leader John Thune. I think he's doing a great job. And we've been very aggressive, really taking the Democrats to task for their policies that aren't representative of America. You played a clip earlier of Chuck Schumer. That was completely cringy. They've had to make the most outlandish arguments, and I don't think America is buying it. So I'd say right now the U.S. Senate is the one that seems a little more conservative and really aggressive. But I also have to thank my colleague. We came in together in 2016, and he was a great Louisiana. And I'm from North Carolina, but I think he's from your original state of Louisiana, Speaker Mike Johnson. And he is a wonderful individual. And a great leader. And it seems like he's doing the best he can with his majority over there. And so hats off to him as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think it's a fair assessment of both chambers. One final question on that. Do you see does the House tend to work closer together when you talk about your colleagues as opposed in the Senate? It seems like the Senate's a little more independent.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I would say this time I've seen great collaboration between the speaker and the leader and a lot of interface member to member. I still stay in touch with friends from the House, colleagues from the House, and we're working closely together. So I see that more than I saw when I came in in 2016 under Paul Ryan. And again, there was like this divisiveness between Republicans there and Republicans here. I don't see that now. I see a lot of collaboration. We can always do better. There's more we can accomplish. But we're getting great. We're getting great things done. And we're going at it at a really good clip.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I think that's because in my time I've seen more individuals like you elected to the Senate, you know, Ted Cruz and Mike Lee and others who are a little more aggressive. They're not just happy with the status quo. So I think it is it's revving the engine up a little bit in the Senate a little bit more to make it move more quickly. You introduced the Front Act. Explain what that is. Tell our viewers what that is.
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We've seen these horrible protests, whether it was back during COVID or whether it was just a few weeks ago in Los Angeles. And we've had the suspicions and now we have evidence that it is funded by outside the US entities, those that are adversarial and hostile to the freedoms that we have in America. a communist, a pro-communism, pro-China millionaire from overseas that's funding us and that's funding these radical protests. And we would make these groups that receive that money register as foreign agents. We can't have outside dollars. Look, do we want to protect First Amendment rights to protest and freedom and freedom of assembly? Absolutely. But we cannot have adversarial dollars from these nations coming in funding these groups. That's out of hand and we can't do that. So we need accountability and transparency. That's what the Front Act does.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do you think the prospects are of that getting through?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I've got some great colleagues, Senator Ricketts, Senator Hawley, that we've worked together on this. And we think we've got good chances. Again, it's like you're trying to thread a needle. You've got a lot of things we need to accomplish. President Trump's got a lot on his plate that we need to sign off on here in the Senate. And we'll see where we can fit it in. If it attaches to something else, if it's on a standalone bill, that's fine, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, it's an important issue. I mean, we cherish freedom, but we can't allow people to come and undermine that freedom who want to see our freedom collapse, these foreign actors. So I applaud you on threading this needle and getting it through in the right way. Before I let you go, you led several National Defense Authorization Act provisions that deal, of course, that deals with our military. But you focus on, in part, banning discriminatory affirmative action policies at our service academies.
SPEAKER 07 :
This makes the Supreme Court decision that we saw to colleges around the US apply to our service academies. When you think of West Point, Navy Academy, Air Force Academy, we want the same standards based on merit. That's really all we want. And that's an American value is that you win based on merit, not based on the color of your skin or your ethnicity or anything like that. And the U.S. military and these academies have been the greatest leveler in all times. And so we want people to have a shot not to be driven on a social agenda, but to be there because they want to serve our country and they're qualified to do so in these academies. So that's what this is about. And I'm very excited about this year's NDAA. It supports our troops and it creates a great opportunity in these service academies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Senator, we're at what I would say is a historic moment of turning in our culture. People had had enough of the DEI, woke ideology, and they pushed back, starting at school boards, state legislatures, Congress, electing President Donald Trump, returning him to office, and he has not been slow in addressing many of these issues. But from your perspective, what do we need to do to make sure this is not a flash in the pan, that the pendulum doesn't swing back three years from now, but that we continue to chart a course that preserves freedom, individual freedom, preserves the very foundational elements of our republic?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, never stop praying. And if you're somebody out there to you, Tony, your team, your viewers, if you'll continue to do so. And I would also say, remember that regular folks make a difference. I was a regular individual who went to our state Capitol and signed up and decided to run for Congress and ended up winning. And, you know, you could put your name on the line. You could step up for a school board, a county commission, a city council, and show up and allow your values to be heard and represented because you're representing a lot of people. It could be Congress. It could be the U.S. Senate. You never know. But I took a shot one day and won, and I'm just a regular guy. And so I would say make sure that you're willing to stand up and volunteer and stay engaged and always be prayerful and never lose hope.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Senator, you're doing more than just a regular guy. You're doing a really good job. We're grateful for you on Capitol Hill and always thankful for you to come on the program. Thank you, Tony. All right. You heard that. You know, we can each make a difference right where we are. And Senator Budd's doing a great job in the Senate. And he cares about the values you and I care about, and he's not shy about them either in the Senate. And that's what we need. We need more individuals who have strong beliefs and convictions, biblical beliefs and convictions, and are willing to stand up and defend those things. And... create policy from that vantage point and from that with that understanding that worldview. All right. Don't go away. When we come back, a court victory. We're going to talk about it on the other side of the break.
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We're going to take a stand. And again, we don't retreat. You will never see in front of this building here in Washington, D.C., a white flag flying. We will never step back. We will never surrender. And we will never be silent. Hello, friends, this is Tony Perkins. You know what? We just finished our 21 day family Bible challenge through the book of Matthew. And if you joined us, I pray that it has already borne fruit in your life and in your home as you place the Lord and his word at the center of your home. Now, our journey through the Bible doesn't end here, though. The challenge was a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. And from here, we're going to cover the rest of the New Testament. And now that we've finished the book of Matthew, let me ask you, would you consider joining us for the rest of the journey through the Word of God? In 10 to 15 minutes a day, you'll see how the good news of Jesus transformed the lives of common people, people just like you and me, and how those same people transformed the known world through the power of the Holy Spirit. I invite you to continue the journey with me and discover the life-enriching power of the Word of God. Visit frc.org slash Bible for a reading plan. That's frc.org slash Bible to learn more. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Yesterday, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a West Virginia law that protects unborn children from almost all abortions, including those performed by the abortion drug Mifeprestone. Something we've been talking about a lot here because it's flowing freely across state lines into pro-life states. Well, the lawsuit was brought by GenBioPro, a maker of the generic version of Mifeprestone, who challenged West Virginia's Unborn Child Protection Act. Now, what are the implications of this legal ruling? Here to share more about this is Erin Hawley. She is a senior counsel and vice president of the Center for Life and Regulatory Practice at Alliance Defending Freedom. And ADF joined forces with West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrissey, now the governor, to litigate this case. Erin, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 25 :
Thanks so much for having me. Great to be here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, congratulations. I mean, this is quite significant. Break this case down for us so that folks will get kind of a basic understanding of what was litigated and what the outcome was.
SPEAKER 25 :
Sure, so Jen Beyer Pro's claim here was really sweeping. And what the abortion drug manufacturer argued was that because the FDA had approved mifeprestone and subjected it to the regulation that only applies to the highest risk drugs, that that meant no state could protect life prior to 10 weeks. which is the limit for the abortion drug. So a super sweeping theory of preemption advocated by GenPriorPro. If the case would have come out the other way, it would have indicated that no state could protect life before 10 weeks. Thankfully, the Fourth Circuit said that preemption, that theory of preemption was simply wrong. Congress had not indicated that it intended to federalize abortion in the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, Erin, that would go against the Dobbs decision, would it not?
SPEAKER 25 :
Absolutely. And the Fourth Circuit actually said that in an opinion by Judge Wilkinson. Judge Wilkinson said for us to federalize abortion immediately after Dobbs would be one small step short of defiance. He was crystal clear that Dobbs returned that issue to the states. West Virginia took the Supreme Court up on its invitation and its democratic elected law protects life. And nothing Congress said in the FDA changes that.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, Aaron, let's talk about something else that you and I and your husband, Senator Josh Hawley, have talked about here. The fact that, OK, the state has the right, the court, the Fifth Circuit said, I mean, the Fourth Circuit in this case said you can you can have this law that restricts the abortion pill Mifeprestone. But that's being abrogated by the FDA and the DOJ through failure to uphold the Comstock Act because these are being mailed illegally into states and nothing's happening.
SPEAKER 25 :
So you're exactly right. In 2023, the Biden administration took away the sort of last safeguard for women taking abortion drugs. And make no mistake, these drugs are dangerous. The FDA's own label says that roughly one in 25 women who take them end up in the emergency room. Mifeprestone has a black box label that warns about serious infection and even the risk of death. But despite that, the Biden administration said we're going to do away with the last in-person doctor's visit. And that means that a woman can go online or her husband or boyfriend or someone can go online and order the abortion drug shipped directly to your door. It only takes a couple of minutes. You just answer a couple of questions. And those drugs are flooding into pro-life states, despite those pro-life laws that should protect women and their unborn children.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's still the case. That's still the case today. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 25 :
That is absolutely correct. You've got states like New York setting up what are called shield laws. The state of Louisiana, for example, has recently filed a lawsuit against a New York doctor for prescribing mifeprestone to a woman in Louisiana who ended up having an emergency. No doctor to help her through that. She ended up going to the hospital. Louisiana sought to prosecute that doctor, but New York says they won't extradite her under their shield law. So other states are affirmatively helping women, or excuse me, helping doctors to get high-risk drugs to women without ever seeing a doctor. And regardless of what you think about abortion, that's not good medical care.
SPEAKER 08 :
So the victory that the state of West Virginia gained in this decision by the Fourth Circuit, it's significant. I mean, and I'm going to ask you the ramifications for other cases. But in practice, it's being undermined by the federal government at present based upon what Joe Biden put in place.
SPEAKER 25 :
So absolutely, the Biden administration's rule that allows these drugs to be shipped without a doctor's visit is dangerous, and it undermines states' pro-life laws. This ruling is very significant. However, it would mean, if it went the other way, that no state could protect life until 10 weeks. And as Judge Wilkinson's opinion points out, the same provisions apply to other dangerous drugs like opioids. And that would mean states couldn't protect patients taking opioids. They couldn't set limits on amounts or days taken, things like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
When I was reading this, Aaron, I know it's another case, but it kind of reminded me of the Tennessee case regarding the state putting in place protections for minors against the transgender procedures. The court said the state has a right to protect the well-being and restrict these practices. It seems like there's kind of a common kind of parallel there, maybe.
SPEAKER 25 :
Absolutely. And the Fourth Circuit's opinion really explains that states have been the historic player in protecting health and safety for their citizens. And because that's the state's traditional role, GenBioPro here had to overcome something called the presumption against preemption. That means they had to show a statute that clearly showed Congress's intent to preempt local laws like West Virginia's. But all GenBioPro could offer was silence. Nothing in the FDCA or any of its amendments even mentions abortion. And the court said there was no way to get an attempt to federalize and mandate abortion in all 50 states from that statute.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, again, Erin, Holly, congratulations. Another job well done. We appreciate the work that you do in Alliance Defending Freedom. Very grateful for your defense of the unborn and the rights of states to protect them.
SPEAKER 25 :
Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. And folks, again, I'm going to get you to weigh in on this. We're not finished. Not going to let it go until the Biden policy is reversed by the Trump administration. So text the word LIFE to 67742. That's LIFE to 67742 and sign the petition. We're seeing under Dobbs, states are taking actions. And this law in West Virginia was enacted after Dobbs because they were given the right to do so. But it's being undermined by the FDA and the Department of Justice that's refusing to enforce the law on these abortion pills. It needs to change. Text LIFE to 67742. All right, stay with us. We're back after this.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Well, thank you, Tony. It's great to be with you. Appreciate you having me.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, so let's talk about what it means that the NEA has a federal charter, the only one. Why and what does that mean?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, they got this charter in 1906, so almost 120 years ago. The federal government actually would offer these charters, if you will, going all the way back to 1791. And I think... In its history, the banking was the first one to receive it. But this was done in 1906 as a way of saying that they were going to support teachers and support education in this country. And I think that for all of these years, they have lived with this stamp of approval. That's really what it is. It's a stamp of approval from the United States Congress on an organization giving them this charter. for the purpose that they have. But I think everyone, everyone would recognize that the NEA has just gone off the rails and they have certainly not lived up to what that charter was meant to be. And I think that the United States Congress, the 119th Congress, looks at this and we have an opportunity to strip them of this charter and basically remove Congress's seal of approval and hold them accountable for the actions that they've done. I mean, the idea behind the charter was to elevate the character and advance the interest of the profession of teaching. And I'm actually sharing that quote. The truth is, it no longer fulfills that mission.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's been years since they've actually introduced a resolution at their annual convention dealing with education. It's all about political issues. And if you look at the open sources, I think it's somewhere north of 90 percent, maybe 98 percent of their contributions go to Democratic candidates.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's exactly right. It is a leftist, activist, political action crowd that is simply funding the left-wing woke agenda. And it's time for them to be called out. You know, it's important for folks to understand this action doesn't dissolve the NEA. I guess any group has a right to do what it is that they do. But it certainly is an opportunity for the United States Congress to say that the seal of approval that was placed upon this group in 1906 is going to be removed because of the very things that you have mentioned. I think the one thing that kind of got my attention was when I read a statement in their 2019 convention just about six years ago. They had an opportunity as an order of business to basically pass action that said that they were going to be focused again on the well-being of the students and on their education. And that was actually voted down in their convention. And instead, what do we see today? They vote to label President Trump's policies as fascism. They've argued against taking pornographic LGBT books out of their school libraries. They severed ties with the the American Defamation League, which is dedicated to fighting anti-Semitism. So every leftist agenda item you could think of, they have adopted, and that's what they do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And I agree with you. Everybody has a right to have free speech out there, but they don't have to have a playing field that's not level. I mean, they have the benefit of having this seal of approval from the federal government. And I also think I'm not certain about this, but I think I've read where that charter also provides some tax benefits like property tax for some of the properties that they own around the country.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, I'm not for sure and can't speak to that with great knowledge. But again, the point being that this is an opportunity for us to recognize that here is a group that has gone off the rails and they've got to be called into account. And this is something that Congress can do. And really, they're the only federal labor union with this charter. And it's important to, again, as you mentioned, level the playing field. and strip them of this. And I'm excited about the opportunity. And we've gotten great response from around the country today as this news is getting out. And hopefully, we're going to see some action taken by this.
SPEAKER 08 :
20 seconds left. Mark, how can our listeners and viewers help?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, the most important thing they can do is call their congressman or congresswoman, ask them to co-sponsor this. I've had a great response today of co-sponsors. So check this out and help spread the word.
SPEAKER 08 :
We'll do that. Congressman Mark Harris of North Carolina. Folks, stick with us. We're back with more Washington Watch on the other side of this break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host. All right, let me give you the Capitol switchboard number so that you can weigh in with your member of Congress on the bill that Mark Harris was talking about, the National Education Association Charter Repeal. Okay, the National Association, National Education Association Charter Repeal. They'll get it. All right, it is 202-224-3121. 202-224-3121 is the capital switchboard number to weigh in on that, to remove the charter from the NEA. Also, let me again give out the text for the letter regarding life, the petition rather, for life. Text life to 67742. That's regarding the abortion pill that is being sent in to these pro-life states, circumventing the laws that were passed. So text the word life to 67742 and let your voice be heard. Our word for today comes from Luke chapter 15, that all the tax collectors and the sinners drew near to hear him. And the Pharisees and scribes complained, saying, this man receives sinners and eats with them. You know, Jesus invested deeply in his disciples, yet he also welcomed and engaged with the lost. And since Jesus is our example, we must do the same. Now, there are two important applications here from this passage. First, our churches should be places where the lost feel genuinely welcomed by our love and our kindness. This doesn't mean adopting a seeker-friendly model that tolerates spiritual immaturity forever or allows people to remain comfortable in their sin. Instead, it means reflecting the heart of Jesus, kind, compassionate, and open to those who are different or even difficult. pointing them to the cross. Second, as individuals, our posture must be like Christ, not condemning but caring. However, our love must not be confused with affirmation. True love cannot affirm behavior that contradicts the word and the ways of God. To affirm what God calls sin is not loving, it's misleading. To love as Jesus loves means speaking truth with grace, extending mercy without compromising holiness, and welcoming the sinner without endorsing the sin. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. Well, earlier today, a handful of Republicans led by Congressman Thomas Massey introduced a discharge petition to force a vote in the House of Representatives on releasing documents related to the late and infamous Jeffrey Epstein. Now, this comes as the Department of Justice has been under pressure over its handling of the files. Many have been asking why the Trump administration is refusing to release the government's files on Epstein. Should we also be saying something? Join me now to kind of navigate this mess. Sam McCarthy, the Washington Stands news writer who has been tracking the Jeffrey Epstein saga closely. Sam, welcome to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks for having me back on the show, Tony. It's really good to be talking to you again.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. So, you know, for those who haven't been really tracking this because there's just so much noise out there, give us, you know, the synopsis here. What's going on?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, in basic terms, you know, Jeffrey Epstein was a prolific sex trafficker and sex offender. He'd been prosecuted at least once before, I believe it was in 2008, in Florida for child prostitution, essentially, and had been shielded from any serious ramifications. He then continued to cultivate friendships with rich and powerful people, including people like President Bill Clinton, numerous Hollywood individuals. Lots of tech magnates. Bill Gates was a frequent guest of his. And famously, he had an island that involved sex trafficking children, where he would take the wealthy and the famous for that purpose. He was arrested, and he died in prison, and we were told that he died by suicide. A lot of people found the circumstances surrounding his death, including missing video footage. The guards who happened to be patrolling every 10 to 15 minutes just happened to fall asleep during the time when he happened to pass away. He broke bones, supposedly, in his leg that you could not break from falling from the height that he did in his prison cell. So there were a lot of questions about it. We were really trying to find out who were his clients. One of his chief associates, Ghislaine Maxwell. She's currently in prison. She's been charged and convicted of sex trafficking. The question is, who was she sex trafficking to? And so that's kind of the genesis of a lot of the controversy right now, is the public would like to know who all these rich and famous people were, and powerful people. A lot of them are politically connected, supposedly. who they were, you know?
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's what's supposed to be in these alleged files that the Department of Justice has?
SPEAKER 04 :
Supposedly. So there's a question as far as what actually is in the files, what the files actually are. It's unlikely, particularly given that we just went through four years of the Biden administration, that there was a literal list of all of Epstein's clients just sitting around somewhere in the Department of Justice waiting for Trump to return to the White House and make it public. So it's more a matter of releasing the information that they do have. And there have been some questions about, you know, well, what about names on there who were people who may be associated with or visited Epstein but had nothing to do with the child trafficking? Would that be damaging to their reputation? Who actually was involved, who wasn't involved, etc.? ? So there's a lot of questions about like trying to parse out what actually is in there, what's actually available in the information that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies have, and then determining what gets released to the public and who needs to be held accountable.
SPEAKER 08 :
OK, so, Sam, again, I'm not the expert on this. I'm just kind of vaguely following it. But as I appreciate the situation, part of the. controversy at present is that, if I'm not mistaken, President Trump, when he was a candidate and those surrounding him, said, look, we're going to release all this stuff. We're going to have transparency so people can see what's going on. They'll know what's in here. We're not going to have any more of these hoaxes that are in there because we're going to let everybody see what's going on. And in fact, when when Attorney General Bondi and Dan Bongino, you know, took his position at the FBI. This was something that was discussed, as I recall, that this was going to be released. Now, all of a sudden it's not being released. And that's where I think the controversy is is being brewed. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. A lot of the outrage that you're seeing from the public right now is based on the fact that you even have, you know, Attorney General Pam Bondi. actually said that the list, the Epstein list, she said, was on her desk. And then just a few weeks later, she said that there is no such thing as the Epstein list. And you had, you know, FBI Director Kash Patel say the same thing. Then you had FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino say, you know, well, we don't have footage, you know, of Epstein's death because it's missing. And then suddenly the footage has been found. It's released and a bunch of, you know, experts look at it and say that it's actually edited. So it's really a question of kind of where is the transparency? We were promised, you know, you would tell us what's going on. You know, we'd get we'd get the truth. We'd get some accountability. We'd be able to hold people accountable. Where is that? That's where a lot of the outrage right now is stemming from from the public.
SPEAKER 08 :
OK, final question for you on this, Sam. So where does that all stand at present in terms of the release of these files? I know even Congress has been weighing in on this. Where does it stand?
SPEAKER 04 :
there we've got a few congressman led by a thomas massey uh... who are pushing for resolution to call for the release the public release of the epstein files uh... which but which is kind of a a euphemistic term almost for any documentation that the fbi and other law enforcement agencies have pertaining to jeffrey epstein his clients and the crimes that he committed and that he profited from other people committing uh... But they haven't been released, and President Trump is giving people a hard time for continuing to ask about them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Interesting. All right, Sam McCarthy, thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, I want to go a little deeper in this because I think— I don't think this is going to go away. All right. I've been you know, it's been brewing here for a while. And I kind of this is one of those things I kind of see out of my peripheral vision. It's not a core issue that I track. But I mean, there's something here. When you see smoke, you start looking for flames. So I want to dive a little deeper into this case with someone who's been working to bring transparency to the American people on a number of things, including this. Joining me now is Tom Fenton, president of Judicial Watch. Tom, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining me. Good to be with you, Tony. You've been tracking this story. This is up your alley. This is the kind of stuff you do. You've been asking for records and for freedom of information requests. So tell me about the treasure trove of information that you have.
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I haven't gotten one document yet. You know, we've done some Epstein-related investigations prior to this a few years ago. But then, you know, we saw what happened back in February with that kind of bungled release of information to social media influencers. And we said, what's going on here? Let's ask for all the Epstein records. There's a lot of concern. Materials withheld. The Attorney General and FBI Director Cash said, well, all of a sudden we got this new batch of documents and we're mad at the FBI and Southern District of New York and Justice Department office up there for holding material back or just giving it to us all in one mass long after we asked for it. So we said, what's happening? We asked for records about what went on, plus all the Epstein records. Not one document's been turned over. WE'RE IN FEDERAL COURT OVER IT NOW. WE FILED A FOIA LAWSUIT. SO IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN, YOU KNOW, OVER THE WEEKEND DURING JULY 4TH, THEY RELEASED THIS MEMO NOT ONLY DISCOUNTING ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE INVESTIGATION AND THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE RIGHT TO DISCOUNT IT. I CAN'T SECOND GUESS THEIR CONCLUSION. BUT WE CAN DEMAND THE EVIDENCE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THEIR PROMISES. But they also said in that memo, we aren't going to release any more—we are not going to release any more information, which is very—which is unusual.
SPEAKER 08 :
And— Does this meet your definition of transparency?
SPEAKER 18 :
No, it doesn't. And the irony is, the next day, they're literally in federal court telling the judge, the Justice Department, that they are still reviewing and searching for Epstein records in the FBI and Justice Department.
SPEAKER 08 :
How can they say that if there's nothing to release?
SPEAKER 18 :
It's very curious. It's a contradictory message, don't you think? It is. But on the other hand, this is kind of the way forward. If anyone were asking me, I would tell them, just release the records through the FOIA process. It's a process that allows for disclosure about how many records are out there, what's being withheld, if any records are being withheld, and why, what's the justification for it, and obviously then other records that can be withheld. released in whole or in part are released. We've been doing this for 30-plus years at Judicial Watch. We kind of know what FOIA is about. And it's—I would encourage the administration to avail themselves of the court process. FOIA is their friend. Transparency is their friend. And I appreciate the president is frustrated about how this story has gotten out of hand for him. But that's – it's his employees that screwed up. It was the Justice Department and the FBI that screwed it up, not people asking the question.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Tom, wouldn't it go away if they got answers?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I don't know if they would. I mean, we – I'll give you a story. I was at a meeting, one of our conservative meetings, and someone came up to me and said, oh, we've got to investigate 9-11. AND I'M LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HE GOES, WELL, THE PLANE, IT WENT INTO THE PENTAGON AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. AND I SAID, WELL, I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY REASONABLE QUESTIONS. HE GOES, BUT THEY'RE NOT RELEASING THE VIDEO. AND I SAID, WELL, THAT'S UNUSUAL. SO WE ASKED FOR THE VIDEO. WE GOT THE VIDEO OF THE PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON THINKING THAT MIGHT ANSWER SOME OF THE CONSPIRACY QUESTIONS ABOUT 9-11. Not at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's true. I mean, there's always going to be some, but you've got, I think this has taken on a much bigger life than it needed to. I mean, because, you know, like me, I'm not really paying attention to the Epstein files. I mean, so the guy was a pervert. He was abusing children. He went to jail, supposedly killed himself. But now when people have the ability to release the records they're not releasing, it makes me suspicious. And now I'm paying attention to it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, and when they tell you that not only are they not going to release the records, but there's no good reason to ask any questions about any of these issues. There are legitimate questions about his death. There are legitimate questions about why it is, given the number of victims, according to the FBI Justice Department's own memo, a thousand victims. who else might have been involved in victimizing those girls. And why haven't they been prosecuted? Now, they also said there's not enough evidence to prosecute people. Well, tell us what the evidence is. Let us figure out what the evidence is and we'll draw our own conclusions.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would think I would think this administration of all administrations after what President Trump went through and what we saw in the last four years and how government was weaponized, that we would just pull back the curtain and let people see what we're talking about here, because there's a lot of distrust of government and this doesn't help.
SPEAKER 18 :
It doesn't. And, you know, the Epstein case is, in my view, an avatar, really, for so many other concerns the American people have. They don't like the idea of two-tiered justice systems here in Washington, D.C. And they may not know about the other aspects of the lawfare targeting Trump. OR THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE PROTECTED AND OTHERS ARE TARGETED, BUT THEY ALL KNOW ABOUT EPSTEIN. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S SUCH HIGH PUBLIC INTEREST IN IT BECAUSE IT KIND OF BURST OUT OF THE WASHINGTON BUBBLE AND REGULAR FOLKS KNOW ABOUT IT. AND THAT'S WHY SPEAKER JOHNSON, said, oh, I want Maxwell to testify. I want all the documents released. That's an indication, given how typically cautious he is on issues like this, that they are getting overwhelmed with public interest on the Hill.
SPEAKER 08 :
20 seconds here, Tom, before we wrap up. Are you going to let go of this? Is Judicial Watch going to stay on it?
SPEAKER 18 :
We've got a FOIA lawsuit, and we're just going to keep on keeping on until we get the records or court tells us to go home.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Well, don't go home. Just keep doing your work, Tom. Always good to see you. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thank you, Tony.
SPEAKER 08 :
Tom Fenton with Judicial Watch. They're bulldogs. They stay on this stuff. I just think there's like, again, just just be transparent. It's what we need. We need to restore trust in our government. All right, folks, out of time for today. Thanks for joining us. Until next time, keep praying and keep standing.
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SPEAKER 09 :
We got breaking news this morning. President Trump responds publicly to MAGA with a scorching social media post.
SPEAKER 07 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome to Sekulow. We got some breaking news we're going to cover here in just a moment. We just opened phone lines at 1-800-684-3110. My brother Jordan Sekulow is in studio with us today, as well as Will Haynes and Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem will be joining us a little bit later. There's a lot breaking though right now, including President Trump. took to his social media platform, The Truth Social, just this morning, I believe, or overnight, the overnight hours, yeah, and essentially said, hey, if you have a problem with some of the Jeffrey Epstein things, if you're still one of the people pushing that, I'm kind of done. I mean, in some ways, when we can read the whole thing, kind of don't consider yourself a supporter of me anymore. It's a pretty radical statement, I'll be honest, because this is something that I see the comments come in. I understand there are things that are much more important in the world happening right now on the world stage, whether that is Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Iran, Texas, what's going on there, all of the cleanup efforts from all of the natural disasters that have happened, the fires, the hurricanes. So I get it. On the list of things present in the United States, you probably don't want to be dealing with a whole litany of people coming at you about Jeffrey Epstein. But here we are. And look, it is something that they ran on. They talked about. If you put in Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, you expect that there would have been something. I'm going to read you some of this, and then I'm going to get feedback from Jordan and from Will. It says, the radical left... I've got to edit some of this because of language, as you'd expect from President Trump. The radical left... uh democrats have hit or have hit pay dirt again just like the fake and fully discredited steel dossier i mean this is a lot to read i'm just going to skip forward in this uh you know he goes on saying the new scam is that if we ever call the jeffrey epstein hoax and my past supporters have bought into this blank hook line and sinker they have learned their they haven't learned their lesson they probably never will and they've been conned by the lunatic left for eight years and again goes on and on keeps talking about this being a hoax for Jeffrey Epstein look say what you want about that situation we know that this has been a PR nightmare with a bunch of self-inflicted wounds and here we are
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, can I just say, I think that from the get-go of this, it doesn't make any sense about how it was handled. I mean, I think if you're a supporter of President Trump, you can honestly say that. You could say, why was this put out without more of a strategy? There's just not much of a strategy behind this, except for what you're going to talk about, the biggest conspiracy scandal ever.
SPEAKER 09 :
that's kind of rocked the country and that has had legs too i mean it's continued on i mean he's dead he's been dead for many years and it continues to go on and on and on whether that was footage coming out of the island whether is that yeah all of the swirl around it why come out with anything definitive without a plan yeah because you had dan bongino and you had kash patel saying we know without without a doubt and here's the footage to prove it and the footage to prove it
SPEAKER 10 :
was less than convincing for most people oh I mean when you listen I'm not a professional editor but the internet's very quick on these things yeah and you give them a video even if even if the edits weren't deceptive even if the conspiracy isn't there there is nothing there I think that you had to roll this out better I mean you had a duty to your own people and I think casting them aside in a week is also probably listen I don't know if we make it through the summer and we're still talking about this but Epstein has created its own industry.
SPEAKER 09 :
And when we're talking about people that are bringing this up, you're talking about Mike Johnson. You're talking about some of these names. It's not necessarily only fringe. The fringe MAGA.
SPEAKER 10 :
But people that don't want to be talking about it have to talk about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So if it's not just them. And then now the liberal press and the liberal social commentary is obviously jumping on this. This also comes from Elon saying, hey, the reason it wasn't released was because certain names are on that list. Remember, that happened just a few weeks ago, which does seem to spiral a lot of this back into the public sphere.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right, and what you have to also look at here is that Jordan talked about the rollout was messy. I know we're coming up on a break here with only about 30 seconds left, but when you look at all of this and the way it was rolled out, there are much easier ways also to both talk to your base and say things like, we've seen from what the previous FBI did, there wasn't much there, but we're going to continue investigating. It just seemed like it was a mess to begin with.
SPEAKER 09 :
He feels like, hey, I don't have to run for re-election, so what do I care? If I don't want to talk about it, I don't have to. The President of the United States. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back to talk it all and restate it. Welcome back to Secular. A bunch of you are joining us right now because we had some technical glitches at the very beginning of the show on YouTube and on Rumble. So I apologize for that. So we're going to restate what is happening. It is some breaking news. President Trump dropped a pretty fiery statement this morning going after what have been some of his most ardent supporters. And of course, now you have people even like Mike Johnson having to come out and say, hey, I think we should be having hearings and know more about what's going on in the Epstein case. Again, that's not even a subject that Jordan and I were just talking about it. that we like talking about. This is not on brand for what we do here at the ACLJ, but President Trump decided to make this statement this morning. And with that, it becomes breaking news item once again. You know, sort of the old adage of no sound, no story. I don't think that comes easily for President Trump and the Trump administration. CNN, in fact, was inferring, hey, maybe this is Trump actually saying, I would like a clean break from a lot of these more fringe MAGA movement type people and move to a more traditional conservative Republican sort of pathway. And look, you can say with his support of Israel, with his support of even some of the now Ukraine, that maybe we're seeing that. We are seeing this move of President Trump to say, I control the narrative. I'm moving more to a, not a moderate conservative, but more a traditional conservative. You don't want to say this, and it's going to make a lot of people mad, but a George W. Bush kind of conservative. That is a potential that could be happening. That was a conversation happening when he dropped this sort of long post, really, referring to the Jeffrey Epstein situation as a hoax and conflating it with the Steele dossier.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I think one of the reasons, one, sometimes President Trump speaks simplistically, and especially when he ties things together and talks about that. And then people are taking that and being like, wait a second, but he was in prison and Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison. How is that a hoax if they're in prison? I think... we need to take a step back and start defining some terms here. What he's referring to the hoax is things that are maybe specifically like a list of clients or the black book that people like to talk about of his contacts, which once again, just having contacts of people doesn't necessarily mean that you were doing nefarious things for them, not to cover for Jeffrey Epstein's contact list. But when you look at this, why was he in prison? And what had he been convicted of before and why was Ghislaine Maxwell in prison? That, on its surface, you can understand that that's what the FBI had evidence of and what they were prosecuting them for. And that when he was charged with and she was charged with trafficking, the trafficking statute, Jordan... doesn't necessarily mean that you are doing that for other people it's an enhanced crime when you are having a a list of of people in in many victims as well as for this purpose and gallain maxwell aiding in that it doesn't necessarily mean that he was the person that procured people for other people sometimes you are get a trafficking charge when you are the person that is utilizing that
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and these are extreme charges we saw recently with the cases that have been in the news. It's very difficult to do because it's a high bar and it should be a high bar. But when we talk about human trafficking in the broader terms, we're talking about drug cartels, organized crime. And in this instance, and I mean, I'm careful because it's not so done that like nothing's ever going to be, but there wasn't like a mess. It wasn't like you took down a cartel. There weren't... Well, there were... But there also weren't like a hundred arrests. It was the one bad actor along with him. So, kind of like talking to Will said, this is... Small scale, when you're talking about what your highway patrol are looking for when they found 20 people in the back of a truck, that's human trafficking. That's how we think of human trafficking.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's not always how it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
In an organized way. They were likely dealing, if they were doing this, they were dealing with those bad actors. But those bad actors would be a uniquely kind of separate entity. Listen, I don't know if you ever get all the info on this, but what I'm interested in is how strong his statements are.
SPEAKER 09 :
To say he doesn't want people's support anymore. When I look at something like the JFK files, what people want is a release that doesn't exist, which is here's one paragraph that says, here's who actually did it. And that doesn't probably exist. That's not how the government works. So likely when they say, where's the list of Jeffrey Epstein? I'm sure they could compile something, but I don't think there was a one shade.
SPEAKER 10 :
You can't just say, because you've had any interactions. And I think this is where Trump gets upset.
SPEAKER 09 :
Most people had interactions with him. New York social life.
SPEAKER 10 :
New York social life of kind of close to billionaires at that time period on up. They were around each other.
SPEAKER 09 :
He had plenty of comedians that talked about going over to his house and it was just like, yeah, it was weird, but we got out of there. Not unlike other situations. Not unlike the list that came out, honestly, during the Diddy trial. It was like people's names that were thrown in there. There's people like, I was at one thing and left it 15 minutes in.
SPEAKER 10 :
There were people that fled the country during that trial who have now can return because they were worried about being called forward. Because again, and we have no idea what they're actually, but what was being said that people were doing was extreme and in this case the fact that moore hasn't i mean i think that the prince andrew thing is the probably the biggest other part of this you're never going to get to and so what i don't understand is the rollout that's what a lot of people are talking about feels like you can't trust the people that are saying why did like yeah who is advising The team here, I don't know if the president would have gotten word of this. And again, people put this on President Trump, like he owns this issue. I think where he owns it more is that he embraces the people who talk about it. He wasn't really ever talking about it, to what I remember. This was not like a major thing to him. He might have occasionally been like, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, if anyone would know, it's Will.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I mean, and that was a thing. It did become a part of kind of the campaign this last time of like, you know, we think we need to release this. And that was responding to the base. But I think why, once again, back to Logan's point about people want like... a paragraph that lays it out one that's not how investigative product works but let's take a look at the entire thing one we know that Jeffrey Epstein got preferential treatment from prosecutors 20 plus years ago in Florida he got a sweetheart deal was able to continue to work he got to go home but was in prison then the FBI decides to go back after him again and that's when he died in prison and then Ghislaine Maxwell is arrested on the same issue If the FBI and the DOJ that had already given him preferential treatment was all of a sudden going to have this big expose. No, I think that those investigators, which during that time, we've talked about corruption at the FBI, issues at the FBI. If they were looking for a broader conspiracy, then maybe there would be documents there. If they weren't, if they were just trying to go after one individual... then when they say we don't have information about this other stuff, That's likely true because we know that what's the job of Pam Bondi and Kash Patel and Dan Bongino right now? Cleaning up the DOJ and the FBI. So if they don't have it now, their PR rollout, as you said, awful because they gave a false promise of I'm going to get you all this. And then they're like, we don't have it. Instead, say, you know what? We don't have it because that's what we're trying to do. Clean up the FBI. So now we're going to go look for it. You could say that.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don't think that you ever had to say that. definitively that you exactly knew a hundred percent what happened on a video that if it's that edited and if they don't have that minute they could they could go to that and say listen there's still a missing minute we don't know about there's still questions that a lot of people are going to have and we're not we're not case closed we're not right that's where i think it it upset people is not to come out and say we don't have that information yet or we don't have that we can we can produce Yes, and I think there has to be a better level of protection. If you're the president of the United States, your people have got to protect you better and prep you. So Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, if you really wanted to ultimately put this out, you'd want their full of buy-in, not to where they felt like they were being drudged through to make these comments or having to threaten to walk away from their job because of what it will do. I don't know if the calculation was correct on how – the legs of this, but all you had to do was realize that this guy's name has been in the top of people's top 20 list of issues to talk about, things that are on podcasts. And seeing those most ardent supporters. I don't know if I've listed Joe Rogan where it doesn't come up once.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, seeing those most ardent supporters, including the podcast or all the way to even some of the people that are on Capitol Hill. To turn on President Trump on this and turn on the Trump administration on this, it also gave fodder to liberal media, to you could even say celebrity media. Now all of a sudden they care about Jeffrey Epstein. That is sort of the weird part about it is I see a lot of my, a lot of the actors I follow and they're starting to talk about it now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and even Hakeem Jeffries in the House, the Democrat leader, is making this his soapbox issue. Yeah. Where were they for four years under President Biden if this was something so important and they thought they could get out? No, it's a political game. And I think that's why President Trump is so mad about it is because he's seeing it being utilized by his enemies. And what does President Trump actually want to talk about? Things he's doing. Accomplishments he's doing. And so that's why I think he goes out there and issues a pretty strongly worded statement of like, just get away from this because he's seeing what Hakeem Jeffries, even like The Daily Show is buying. Now, CNN is basically Epstein Network at this point because they're seeing it as an opportunity to drive a wedge in conservatives. And that's what's a big problem.
SPEAKER 09 :
And ratings. All right. Hey, we'll be back in just a minute. I did want to... quickly divert here i know we're on this topic but it's also the 35 years of justice drive all donations made today and throughout the month are doubled and they're in celebration of 35 years of the aclj We're going to go through a list of a lot of things we've been doing right now, the fight for life, the fight for Israel, and so much more when we have a little bit more time in the next segment. And then Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem is going to be joining us. But we couldn't do any of this without you. To have the resources we need to continue these fights, we need you to help engage. Go to ACLJ.org, scan that QR code. Be right back. Welcome back to Secular. Not to divert from the main topic, but we do want to tell you an update on a big ACLJ success story. And it is something that we've been working on hard. And I know that Jordan and the team, the legal team, has been focused on a lot of the legal work we do here. Yesterday, we spent a lot of time talking about the media, which is always important. It's always important for us to be front and center in the media. Millions of people watch this show each and every day. We appreciate all of you who do. But it's just one part of sort of the two-pronged effort that always happens here at the ACLJ. The media side, which is what we do here every day. And then the legal side, Jordan's been running. So let's talk about that, Will, because there is some news.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right, and we will get to phone calls as well if you want to call also 1-800-684-3110. But Jordan, this is something that's kind of been overshadowed by a lot of the political things going on. But yesterday, Court of Appeals upheld a an abortion ban in West Virginia and this had to do specifically with the abortion pill West Virginia had included that in its state ban once again when these issues went back to the states after the overturning of Roe versus Wade through the Dobbs decision and the manufacturer of mifepristone, GenBioPros went after the state suing it, basically saying, we're FDA approved, you can't regulate or deny our drug in your state. And what we saw yesterday at the Court of Appeals is that it upheld that West Virginia can do just that. And we filed alongside an amicus brief in this, helping support the case of the state. This is now the second court win, if you will, that we're seeing with the ACLJ fighting alongside, this time not representing West Virginia, but supporting their arguments with our amicus as we fight with our good friend J.B. McCuskey, the Attorney General of West Virginia, against leftist policies trying to dictate how West Virginia can operate.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and I speak to this, I think that when you look at the bigger abortion issue and the bigger battle for life, you have to, you could take the big kind of broad stroke defunding Planned Parenthood, but then you have to go into the states, right, and actually legislate this and defend this in court on a different scale, which is the industry around abortion. And you're talking about big pharma. You talk about all these industries that are... This is why when you put out a ban on abortion or the funding to Planned Parenthood, you have to be ready for a full-scale battle. Because it's not just, oh, you've got pro-abortion groups on the other side of this. No, you have industries... on the other side of this, that they make their money off of selling pharmaceuticals that end human life. And this is one of those. And the idea here is that while something might be legal, by the FDA, does a state have to approve its use? And I think that after Dobbs and after the overturning of Roe versus Wade, the answer is no. And this gives the ability to, again, actually have these conversations and these battles at the state and local level where they should be instead of Washington DC. And that's what the judges here decided to do is that the state, the federal government does broad things And then the state actually has to implement it and protect its people and decide what's the best use. And remember this pill started being really, I'd say overused likely during COVID because it became an easy way for them to prescribe an abortion without having to actually carry out the procedure. And so, listen, we know that these battles can get complicated, but I think you have to look at it from the bigger picture for life, is that you can pass all these laws, you can give states all the ability to do things. If they don't actually go in and do it and then defend it in court, you actually haven't won.
SPEAKER 09 :
And for 35 years, we've been fighting this battle. And that's why when we talk about 35 years of justice and our 35 years of justice drive, we're also talking about justice for the unborn, justice for pro-life pregnancy resource centers. We've been battling against Planned Parenthood, the abortion industry for so long with the focus of the states. Now we're focused on the states. The fight has multiplied times 50. So you got to think about that. Originally, we were just fighting Roe versus Wade, if you will. And we'd always would talk about, you know, all these little state initiatives were great, but they didn't really mean a whole lot because you had that federal approval of abortion. That's changed. Now that's changed and all of those little cases that at one point were sort of theoretical or on paper, all those trigger laws, it all changed a couple years ago. But what that really meant was not that they went away, that it 50 times started happening more and more. We need your support now more than ever and really could help expand our resources in that life fight. So right now I encourage you to go to aclj.org slash 3535. or scan the QR code, just go to aclj.org. We always want to make sure we provide all the great content that's there, tons of great content for absolutely free, and we appreciate you checking it out. But of course, if you give right now, your giving and your donations are doubled during this drive.
SPEAKER 10 :
I would say this too, on all the issues that we work on at the ACLJ, this is the one where legally we always can utilize more resources. Because this is a good example of it. On the one hand, you're going after the interest group, you know, Planned Parenthood and court. Then you're going after states because states themselves are doing these campaigns going after pregnancy centers like we've seen in Massachusetts, like we've seen in California. So then you're taking on massive states. And then in this case, you're taking on Big Pharma. These are not, again, just simple, easy, well, we won the war, so we're going to win all the battles. And while you might feel like we won the war with the overturning of Roe versus Wade, it really just actually started. Yeah, and it got even more... And actually, all it did was level the playing field for us to where we could go in and we could have legislation in states that were predominantly pro-life, and then we could defend that in court. I mean, that's really all it gave us the opportunity to do. And so to build on it, if you really do believe it's a life or death matter, there's never... enough resources I mean we're dealing with an industry that gets 500 million dollars just from the federal government and that's not including by the way what this biotech company got and we tried to stop it and look what happened Right. We're in it though. You got to keep up the fight and the resources can always be utilized. I will tell you, the attorneys that focus on that matter for us, there is always more to do. And so if there's an opportunity to increase one area, which I think, again, if it's a life or death issue. this is the one. And I think these are good examples of all the different kinds of people you have to go to court with and the different kind of adversaries you have when you jump into an issue that is dealing with people's corporate bottom line.
SPEAKER 08 :
And this is something, once again, this is a win in an appeals court with the state of West Virginia being able to uphold this ban. But at the same time, we're fighting in Massachusetts on two different cases, one being the defunding of Planned Parenthood, which... In the updated TRO, the temporary restraining order, the judge even gave a hat tip to what she's thinking, saying that it's likely that the plaintiffs will succeed on some of their constitutional claims about defunding Planned Parenthood. that their money can't be taken away. It's now a constitutional right. So we're going to keep fighting there, but we're also fighting against the state and Wren. That's that pro-abortion advocacy group that we're conspiring against pregnancy resource centers, Logan. So the fight is across the board in many different states, and it's in ways we never could have imagined, even just a few years ago, that we would be having to fight.
SPEAKER 09 :
Phone lines are completely jammed right now, but we will take your calls and comments coming up in the next segment and in the next half hour. And Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem is going to be joining us. So you've heard about the ACLJ's fight for life. We're also going to keep the discussion going about the President Trump post that he did this morning, kind of calling out, going after a lot of his most ardent supporters who are now upset about the lack of care to the Jeffrey Epstein situation. We have a lot of calls. There are full banker calls. So in the next segment, we'll try to get to some of those. We'll try to get some of those throughout the show. And again, we're also going to head over to ACLJ Jerusalem because it's always important to know what's happening, not only the fight for life, but also what's happening for the support of Israel. These are sometimes not the most popular topics to talk about, but that is why we're here at the ACLJ to talk about some of those topics that don't really come up on the mainstream news as much anymore, that have become a little more decisive or divisive. Right now, support the work of the ACLJ, ACLJ.org. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, this is Jordan Sekulow. You got a pitch there. All right. Hey, this is Logan Sekulow. Jordan's here, too. We're going to be taking your calls and comments coming up right now. Because, look, the top topic of the day is that President Trump has really called out A lot of the MAGA base, if you will. I mean, I hate to be that broad with it. I don't want your support anymore. Pretty much said, you're no longer my friend. He broke up with you because you still care about the Jeffrey Epstein quote unquote hoax. Now, again, if you were in that sort of podcast realm, if you're in that sort of Rogany realm, this is not something you're going to want to hear. And he put on a very long statement about this. We'll discuss that. We can go through that statement, but really, we gave you the good cliff notes. It's a little confusing. It's a little confusing. It has some profanities in it, as you'd expect. Which, by the way, profanity is no longer cool, according to some of the news. They said President Trump took away cursing. Cursing used to be cool.
SPEAKER 01 :
He ruined it.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, let's go to Mary Ellen, who's calling from Illinois in line one. You're on the air. You can't get a win.
SPEAKER 04 :
hello well first of all look back at that way it was rolled out in the dead of night on a holiday weekend no comment no signatures no pressers sent to Axios of all places. So I figured President Trump had to be behind it, and they weren't signing their name to it. Okay, now I learn a lot from Mike Benz on the Internet, you know, about the CIA, and we hear a lot about Jeffrey Epstein's history. Well, okay, we also know the FBI... has no access to the CIA files. But we also know the Trump administration, I mean, the Biden administration spent four years, I would believe, erasing everything. So I believe Pam has nothing. But President Trump could easily get out there and say, look, I don't want to compromise national security. I'm in the middle of negotiations. We've got to fight one. You know, it's like instead of digging his heels in, and now everybody's going to say, okay, so the rich, the powerful, and the famous, now they have one level of justice and we're in the other level.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's not a great look. I think a lot of people feel that way. It's not a great look, whether you agree with President Trump or not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I mean, the president, I think at the end of the day, this isn't his issue, right? This isn't his issue. He also ran on ending wars about making the economy better, right? So what I think, and to Jordan's point, Because it's not his issue, he doesn't understand how many people really do care about it. But I think the other problem you're seeing is that unless every single theory about the case is proven to be exactly as people think it is, they won't be satisfied. So no matter what, even if it was a half measure, like, oh, look, he had some dirt on these people, he was doing this, whatever, if that came out, but it wasn't the specific people that they believe, then I don't think anyone would ever be satisfied. So once again, kind of is the danger in politics of tiptoeing into speculative theories where there is clear that there's bad wrongdoing. This person clearly was an abuser and a bad person. Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
whole botched investigation with weird deals in the past like you said 20 years ago and you've got this the tape and a suicide you know prison suicide and a place that most people said that was nearly impossible to do um so when you put it all together of course it's it's always going to be tough for people except there's no there there yeah when you just say nothing to see here well you've been telling us for years that there is something to see here right uh you know you had a lot of people talking hoax yeah And I think that confuses it more because he's not saying that Jeffrey Epstein is a hoax. He said, you know, this is a horrible guy. This is a bad guy. Why are we still talking about this guy? He shouldn't be this big of a...
SPEAKER 09 :
topic in history if not just a footnote yeah and i think that does show it wasn't the president's number one issue it was a lot of his supporters and i don't want it to be his number one issue for that matter no but there's also ways to handle it they're probably gonna handle a little better all right we got two lines open you can give us a call at 1-800-684-3110 jeff alibon aclj jerusalem is going to be talking to us next always important to have the aclj office in jerusalem We're talking about the most controversial topics today. We're going from Jeffrey Epstein to Israel to abortion. We're covering them all. All right. Look, we appreciate your support. Always here for the ACLJ. So I encourage you to do that right now. Make a donation during this drive right now. 35 years we're celebrating here. Fighting for you and fighting for life, fighting for Israel and so much more. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow. Stay tuned. Welcome back to Seculo. There has been some breaking news this morning, not just out of America, but what's going on in Israel. There's been some attacks in Damascus and Syria. And this has got a little bit of attention, but I definitely wanted to check in with Jeff Balaban from ACLJ Jerusalem. Jeff, just kind of give us an update here because it isn't dominating our news cycle right now. We're not seeing it a lot, but the images that have come out look pretty intense.
SPEAKER 05 :
both Israel and Syria have a minority population of the Druze religion. The Druze religion spun off of Islam, and it's its own faith, and they're extremely loyal here in Israel. They serve in the army, and they're very loyal to whatever government they have if the government treats them well. Well, In Syria now, the new rulers of Syria are not treating them well. Apparently, there seems to be a lot of savagery and massacres against Druze. And so they've come, the Druze community in Israel has asked the state of Israel to help support them against the current rulers of Syria. Now, this implicates America as well. America... is very happy with the fact that the current rulers of Syria, the temporary rulers of Syria, we'll see how long they last, are blocking Iran's access to Hezbollah. And now Israel also likes that. But of course, neither Israel and we hope America will really tolerate the religious abuse and massacres of the Jews minority. So this is very important to the Jews here in Israel. And this now implicates the question for Israel is how much will they support the the Druze community. And right now they are supporting. And of course, there's a lot of international dialogue because the United States has a stake in this as well in terms of stability of the region.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know that a lot of eyes around the world will be on this, even if this doesn't break through necessarily in American headlines as much. We'll see some stories on it, but kind of a lesser conflict that's starting out. But Jeff, I know that you've had some meetings on this in Israel. And what are you hearing just kind of on the ground as you're back in Jerusalem about this situation and kind of what we should be looking out for here in America?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I did. I had a significant briefing today with military involved in this decision-making and also advising. And it does seem clear that there is an interest in... Israel very much has an interest in not just the humanitarian interest, which it has, but also an interest in protecting the Jews population. Now, the Jews already... There are reports that Jews fighters have left from Israel and gone over the border on their own, not... under IDF command to wage war. And the question is, how much is the IDF going to support it? There definitely is an interest in stability in Syria, but right now it's a very unstable situation. And it does seem that there is a necessity of supporting the Druze population. Look, to me, taking a big step back just in terms of my view of this, this shows you the problem with these borders that were drawn in the region. The Jewish territory was cut into a tiny piece, and right now there's a huge Sunni Muslim versus Shia fight that's been going on for a long time, and all these minority communities, Christians of various sorts in various places in Lebanon and elsewhere, Druze and others, the Kurds, they're caught up in this giant war that the Muslims keep on having. And since it does seem to me that there's a path forward, maybe that this president, because he's so bold, can help with this prime minister, and they seem to be a great team, in restructuring even the borders here to have more permanence and safety and security for the minorities, including the many, many Christians who are under dire attack in the countries they live in under Muslim control.
SPEAKER 08 :
Jeff, I want to shift topics a little bit back to U.S. focus, as you are back in Jerusalem, though. But we've been talking about the issues surrounding this mayoral candidate, Zoran Mamdani, in New York. And there's a report from Politico. And I just think the headline in the lead sentence of this report is so telling about and unfortunate about where we are. This says... Mandani expected to clarify his position on, quote, globalize the Intifada. That's the headline. Then the first sentence, Zoran Mandami plans to clarify his stance on the use of the phrase, quote, globalize the Intifada as soon as this week. as he consolidates support in his bid to be New York City mayor. I don't think I've come up with that idea. It's got to take, as soon as this week, may take a little bit longer, depending on what the focus groups tell us, if it's going to isolate anyone too much about how we can either support and or distance ourselves from terrorism. I just want to get your thoughts on that and where we're at.
SPEAKER 05 :
Globalizing the Intifada literally means whether or not there should be murder, rape, torture, kidnapping in America, in New York. But he's not sure whether or not he can come out against it because so much of his base either supports exactly that or has been led over the last number of years to believe that all of these chants, like river to the sea and others which are actually genocidal chance or the use of the phrase resistance or jihad as though it's something other than brutal bloody murder of civilians they've made excuses when it was about israel and jews well globalize the intifada means make it global And Intifada is a violent uprising. And we saw it first coming to public display in the 80s and 90s, where it was bus bombs all over Israel and shootings and stabbings and car rammings. And that's the Intifada. And they are calling for that around the world, including America. And this candidate for mayor of New York isn't sure what position he should take.
SPEAKER 09 :
ask you that, Jeff, as someone who is a New Yorker and spends a lot of your time there. We see the headlines of Madani. We see, obviously, Cuomo now saying he's stepping into the race, and not just to talk about politics, but stepping into the race as an independent, maybe seeing that there is that. It also just feels like New York did not run the best crop of people for this time around because you feel like If you had someone who was more in line, I mean, obviously, if Cuomo did not have a lot of the baggage that he comes with, maybe he would have done better, felt like he was doing better. And then all of a sudden, you have someone who can rile up young people, and it felt like game over very quickly.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, first of all, don't blame me. I moved out of New York City and I live in New York or I split my time, obviously. We have a place in New York, but not in the city. Nonetheless, I'm very close to the city. And it's just another sign of how the national discourse has gone completely insane. I mean, what they call the Overton window, which is, you know, what you're allowed to discuss in regular everyday politics is now talking about genocide approvingly of genocide of the Jews. And by the way, I'll bring another element into this. There was a poll that was done this week about Trump's popularity in New York, and it turns out, I know this surprises a lot of people, that New York Jews, which is the biggest population outside of Israel, there's no city with more Jews, in fact, than new york by far uh 57 approve of trump which is more than any other religious group in new york and any other ethnicity in new york and so a lot of it has to do with you know i spend my time here in israel so many people are saying it feels so much safer in israel than it does in new york these days and that's in the middle of a war And that is the way it feels.
SPEAKER 09 :
One of the most big real wars that Israel has been a part of in our lifetime. And it feels that way. I feel bad for that. Cause you're right. New York. I mean, it used to be, it is still a hub for Judaism hub for Jewish people. If you go certain neighborhoods, it does. It feels like you are in those areas in a good way. Like, I've always enjoyed that part of it. So to see such a mass voting group come out and support someone who is saying things that are this intense, including, by the way, like you said, 50% of plus Jewish people in New York are supporting President Trump. But there is still that group. especially maybe the celebrity circle, that seems to still not be taking these kind of words seriously. You know, we got to get behind this guy because he's young and he's successful and he doesn't like what Israel's doing and therefore he must be our hero, even if we're Jewish.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don't know if you saw this report. Somebody dug up from Donnie's father, who was a well-published author and academic, and he actually wrote an argument praising suicide bombing the suicide bombing you know it's it's as though it's it's a it's a good thing because they're putting their lives on the line for a cause yeah that cause is the extermination of the jewish people it's not really a great thing to be a nazi suicide bomber and that's what his father you're a suicide bomber your your job is to kill other people right regardless of even like their their religious about me obviously they're very specific in that uh but in general you think that'd be enough to go you know maybe this isn't the right guy
SPEAKER 09 :
But no, here we are. Jeff, I always appreciate you joining us. Anything else people need to know as we head into just our last segment of the day, we're going to take a lot of calls. But I know that there's a lot of updates from Israel, and it's why we have the ACLJ Jerusalem office. It's why you're there. It's not just to make sure that we get updates from you each and every day, but to make sure that their influence, our viewership, our listenership, our supporters, that their influence is heard as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. I mean, they want to know what our view is, how this activity with the Jews might affect U.S.-Israel relations. It really is a two-way street. We're here to bring it back to America, but also to help the Israelis understand what's happening in Washington.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you, Jeff, so much for joining us. I would encourage you, if you support Israel, you know that we're one of those organizations that unabashedly, unashamed to support Israel and been that way since our inception. So if you're looking for places to put your financial resources, and look, there have been a lot that have wavered on this issue. I encourage you right now, go to ACLJ.org, scan the QR code that's on your screen. Your donation is going to be doubled this month because great ACLJ supporters and champions have said, we're going to unlock any sort of matching donation that comes in during this month. And we are celebrating because it is 35 years of justice, but we're just getting started to get us to the next 35 years, which will take us to 75 years old. How do you feel about that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we would be older than that. We would be? Yes. In 35 years? In 35 years, we would be older than 75.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's check the math on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
My math is wrong. Yeah, I was about to say.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Will's got a finance degree. There you go. And, you know, I'm saying, just saying. Again, phone lines are open for you. I want to hear from you. Give us a call. And while we do have this last break of the day, make that decision to support the ACLJ and become a champion. We'll be right back. the room we have heard from my brother Jordan Sekulow very loud music Jordan Sekulow we've had Will Haynes we've heard from Jeff Balabot we've heard from some of you and now we're going to turn our attention to our phone callers and so many of you calling in some about the Epstein situation some about Israel and New York and a lot of others we're going to get to all of them Anthony in Florida and by the way you still got a couple minutes to get on hold 1-800-684-3110 Anthony in Florida you've been on hold for 45 minutes know that I appreciate that but go ahead
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, you know, I support you guys because you counter the anti-constitution leftist union. So all kudos to you guys. Now, my question is a prominent attorney who defended Trump, who's not a Republican, but he said that he saw the list. He saw the names on the list, but he can't say who they are. My question to you guys is, it wasn't a mystery what was happening on that island uh give it some guys some people were i was exclude some people from not being ignorant but come on guys i mean really was that so much of a mystery what this this pervert was uh holding on that island it's bewildering so i'll fill me in guys i appreciate it i actually do want to correct you on one thing anthony
SPEAKER 08 :
Dershowitz actually said, you're talking about Alan Dershowitz, he actually said Epstein never created a client list. So there is one thing where he has said he knows a lot more information. He defended Jeffrey Epstein, actually. It was one of the attorneys. But I do want to clarify that, is that he actually told many people that Epstein never created a client list. And they could put together a list. Right. Now, that's the other issue is that sometimes when the news that there's become shorthand or these things like there is a list of clients. One is that that is just shorthand for if he was doing this as almost a business or a blackmail operation or these things that there would be that information somewhere. Right. But once again, there's still a lot of unknown. And if once again, the FBI was only investigating Jeffrey Epstein and not other people, then their evidence would be limited to what they were investigating in theory, as well as. If this isn't something they had evidence of or they didn't want there to be evidence of, it's not surprising that it would not be in the DOJ. And that goes back to the poor PR rollout by the attorney general and everyone getting out there and saying, we're going to release this info and even doing that binder facade and saying, here's what we've got. But then it being kind of a nothing burger, because maybe it is a nothing burger as far as the evidence of the DOJ goes.
SPEAKER 10 :
then then that's what you're here with and that is why people are upset and i understand that evidence is only criminal conduct that they can prosecute when they don't feel like there's any more lane to go down on actually prosecuting an act there's nothing else for them to do so they aren't there just to uncover mysteries Now, could you order that they do a deeper dive into their investigation or into the evidence that came about? Sure, but that's really not their job if there's no more criminal prosecution.
SPEAKER 09 :
We got another call related to this. I'd like to jump to Debbie in South Carolina who is watching on our website on ACLJ.org, which is a great place if you're like stumbling around trying to figure out where they broadcast. You can always go to ACLJ.org or the ACLJ app. The show's there live and later on. Debbie, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. Okay, so I was listening to the dialogue on the Epstein case, and someone said, oh, well, this is just a political issue. No, it is not just a political issue. It's not even just a legal issue. This is a moral issue. I have thousands of mega friends that I am on a podcast with, and the two things that we are most upset about is, number one, no one has been brought to justice yet. And number two, the victims, what about them? Don't trivialize the victims.
SPEAKER 08 :
Debbie, I will cut you off there because Jeffrey Epstein is dead. And Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison. And the assumption is lost on people that Jeffrey Epstein was participating in this behavior. That's why a lot of the evidence cannot be released is because it's images and photos of him engaging in the behavior that he was about to go to trial for. And he's dead. So I think there is some justice there because even the victims that came forward, they were abused by Jeffrey Epstein. So that also can't be lost when people say, well, why was he on trial? Why is Ghislaine in prison? Because they were criminals and they were doing abhorrent, immoral things and should serve justice for that. And so I think that that shouldn't be lost either, is that he's no longer on this earth, and I think he has a lot worse punishment going on than an earthly prison would give him for his immoral behavior. And she is currently in jail.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think this is where it becomes a problem, though, when you call it a hoax. Because when we talked about the Russia investigation, we were talking about the entire thing was a hoax from the start. The entire hypothesis, the whole thesis of that was Donald Trump is a Russian agent. So you start from zero.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think President Trump just throws out that hoax word and he thinks it means something to people that it maybe doesn't.
SPEAKER 10 :
I take it more extreme. Because when we were talking about things that were hoaxes, we were talking about from the start, there was nothing there. And this is different because from the start, there was criminal conduct. And so you had a guy facing basically life in prison. She's got a 20 year sentence. And of course, can they testify to others?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, he's not here anymore. Let's try to get to these two last calls. Alex calling line one. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi guys. Thanks for being there. I want to make my, make two points and make them very quickly. Okay. Um, in reference to, um, if you guys were president, if you guys were advisors to the president, how would you tell the president to quickly put this to death? And yes, the moral point is important, but, I'd really like to see us just get beyond this, and it's not disrespect to the victims, okay? Those people need to be respected. They need justice.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm only cutting you off because we're running out of time. I think Jordan's advice of saying, hey, it's not over. There's still investigations going on, would have probably been the easiest way to really not be the focus. It's when you came out and said, it's on my desk. It doesn't exist. It was a PR blunder that kept going. And honestly, even with President Trump this morning, it still seems to be going. I want to take one more call and then we'll wrap it up for the day. This one is from Warren, who is talking about the New York elections and everything. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thanks for the call, guys. Real quick, most people don't realize, and I'm not saying they all believe in global intifada, but with Mamdami, there's so many small cities In the United States, they have Muslim mayors, and they've even posted, not them, but all over social media how they want to take over America and bring that here, and people need to wake up and realize what's happening.
SPEAKER 09 :
Warren, thank you for calling. We appreciate your thoughts on that. I think with Mondami, you have a very interesting moment because you have a young, charismatic guy who's going on and even getting a pushback from the Democrats, but winning pretty decisively. So we'll see what happens going on. But I mean, it's looking in his favor, but we'll see. With that being said, we got 45 seconds left. This is the time. to support the work of the ACLJ. Jordan, I'll let you do this pitch here as well because it's 35 years we've been celebrating and we got to keep going.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that's right. We talked about today one of the issues involving protection of the unborn. And these issues, I can't say enough that the resources can always be utilized. There's always more battles we can fight in and we can engage in if we have the resources to do so. And so go to ACLJ.org, donate today. This is a great time to donate because of the match, so your donation gets doubled. But I'm just telling you, from the resource perspective, there's always more we can do in these battles. Go to ACLJ.org and donate today.
Join us in discussing timely topics on this week's National Crawford Roundtable podcast. We honor the legacy of John MacArthur, a spiritual leader who stood firm in his convictions even when faced with immense pressure. The episode also examines the intricacies of the Epstein files debate, questioning the narratives around it while considering Donald Trump's stance. Discover what our hosts have to say about the progressive revelations concerning COVID-19 and how leaders in the church responded in trying times.
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Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with most of the guys. I'm myself, Bob Duco. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live. Be back with us next week. We'll talk about him behind his back. John, how are you doing?
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm doing very well, Bob. Good morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good morning to you. All right, folks, here's what we're going to talk about on the podcast this week. First of all, the passing of John MacArthur, the significance of that. The latest on the whole Epstein-Files lack of a client list issue. This is being treated as though it's some kind of massive cover-up scandal. Is Donald Trump and Pam Bondi trying to cover for him being on this list or not? Donald Trump expressing outrage over people trying to make an issue of this, saying, you know what, just let it go. I'm tired of this. So some of the left saying, oh, he's got something to hide. All right, we'll talk a little bit about that. The Major League Baseball All-Star Game was Tuesday night. And so congratulations to the National League for winning, but it was held in Atlanta, Georgia. Well, wait a minute, I'm a little bit confused. I thought that Georgia was Jim Crow 2.0 after the voter integrity laws of 2021. They haven't changed. Anyway, that and maybe a couple other things we'll get to if we have time. First, though, the passing of John MacArthur. John MacArthur, Grace Bible Church in California, and of course, Grace to You, which is heard on Crawford radio stations across the country. And John MacArthur, for decades, well over 50 years, one of the most influential theologians, Bible scholars, Bible teachers in is known for being kind of a five-point Calvinist. So people that aren't five-point Calvinists might doctrinally disagree with him in some of those areas. But I've interviewed John MacArthur many times over the years, and he's a guy who has been willing to stand on biblical principles and values and not cave in to wokeness, political correctness, the winds and waves of society and culture. And in that regard, I think he's been a champion for the faith. I really do. But he also, and John, you may remember this, back during COVID, He was the biggest church in California that told Gavin Newsom, on you, we're not closing down. Good for him. And here's the thing. John MacArthur made an excellent point back then. John, he was like, wait a minute here. Essential businesses are allowed to stay open, so you're calling pot dispensaries necessary businesses, okay? You're calling liquor stores necessary essential businesses, but a church is not. We're not closing down. He had to fight this in the courts, and he took— He won. Yeah, he won. But it was—I mean, I really, really applauded him back then for standing his ground.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, he did things that I have been critical of a lot of other churches across the country for not doing. Every church in America should have done what he did.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. I agree. Every church. He showed incredible courage. And, of course, now, when you look at it after the fact, that we now realize things about COVID that maybe we didn't completely know then, what do you know? Social distancing didn't do jack squat.
SPEAKER 02 :
that actually didn't buy into all of that stuff that we're talking about how nonsensical it was and the fact that none of the things we were doing were really working there were no scientific uh you know there was no scientific evidence backing up any of that it all was whimsical so you know there were some of us myself you included that were talking in that way problem is we were the you know i guess majority in our areas but minority as far as you know the rest of the the country was concerned about you know In this case, John MacArthur was, I don't think it even was so much what you and I were talking about just now in regards to, you know, does these, you know, do these things work? Is it necessary? And so it was more of the principle of, wait a minute, you're letting other essential businesses stay open. You're considering a church non-essential. That doesn't fly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. And as far as the stuff that we know now, you're right, John, we were saying it back then. I joked with my audience about this saying, hold on a minute, let me take a minute here and read the emails of apologies from people who called me every name in the book in anti-science. Yeah, I had some that wanted me to die, Bob. You know, trust me, I got the same thing. Me, my family, you know, you all need to, you know, and so, but I was like, hold on, let me take a minute and read all my email of apologies from those people. Okay, I'm done. Yep, exactly. There weren't no, you know, it's like, I'm ready for the apologies anytime, but. No. What do we know now? We now know that those masks were a joke, okay, that they didn't stop anything. As Rand Paul wisely put it one time, trying to stop a COVID virus wearing one of those cloth masks is like trying to catch a fly with a chain link fence. It's just not going to happen, which is absolutely true. So we know that the masks were a joke. We know that the social distancing was a joke. We also know now that natural immunity was way stronger and better than the vaccines themselves. And what do you know, all the people that got censored on YouTube and Facebook and everybody else for dangerous rhetoric and you having death wishes on you and me as well and everything, well, what do you know, we were proven right by But it is what it is. But you know what? John MacArthur, though, about him, it was very courageous on his part to stand up in the way that he has. And I think he left a very powerful and lasting legacy. He's with the Lord now. And I would just encourage everybody to be praying for the family of John MacArthur, certainly for his congregation. And he wrote over 400 books and study guides. My goodness. Amazing. What an amazing legacy to leave. Absolutely. We do have other stuff to talk about. I want to dive into the Epstein files. But before we do and talk about all the latest with the Epstein controversies and such, we appreciate you folks listening to this podcast. And we very much appreciate the sponsors to this podcast. And if I can be blunt, we want you folks to support Epstein. Our sponsors, not just as a favor to us, but as a favor to you because they do tremendous work. Perfect example, John, SunPower LED. People are learning that, wow, this red light therapy, this photobiomodulation, this is the real deal. It can actually help people in a lot of areas like getting out of pain.
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I'm with Donald Trump, and I've taken a lot of heat on my program for kind of having – That stance, if you would, Bob, because I am one that, you know, I think a little more background on all of this, too, because I don't think people really understand even the timeline in regards to Epstein. Keep in mind that what he was actually going to be on trial for, what he was actually in jail for. happened between 2002 and 2005. So everybody thinks that this was just, you know, right before he went to prison. No, these were things that were going on long before then and, you know, uncovered and so on. But the reality is he was going to be on trial for things that happened between 2002, 2005. So two decades ago. So I think that's one thing that's really important to remember. Right. There is an interview out there between Cuomo and Dershowitz where Dershowitz talks about being his lawyer, being Epstein's lawyer, and talking about all the different things that he saw and what was actually there and the fact that, no, there is no list. In fact, some of the people that were actually mentioned in that, which have not been open because the court deems some of those folks victims versus, you know, perpetrators, which again, that's yet to be determined. Probably, probably never will be determined at this point. But what he said was, A lot of those people are now dead. They're not even around anymore. So the reality is, I believe, and I've said this all along, he would be so stupid to actually have a list. I think anybody with any common sense at all looking at this would say, wait a minute, okay, this guy is dealing with all of these major power brokers literally around the world. And if they had any kind of faith in him whatsoever, they would have to have some sort of agreement that, listen, my name, my image, my likeness, videos, whatever, none of this is ever going to show up anywhere, anyhow. And otherwise, this is a no-go for me. So I don't think he would be dumb enough to actually have any kind of a client list. Again, I know that flies in the face of a lot of hardcore clients. MAGA supporters, which I want to talk about in a moment as well, Bob. But to me, I'm with Donald Trump. I wish we would just move on. And I've been accused of not caring for the victims in these particular crimes, Bob, which I think in my particular case, and I know you're the same, I have interviewed so many people over the years when it comes to the sex trade end of things and doing everything I possibly can to bring light to that and letting people know what happens and how to keep your kids out of it, and on and on we go, that I think it's, number one, very offensive for anybody to ever tell me that I don't care about these young victims. I absolutely do care. Reality is they're not young anymore. Most of them now are going to probably be in their mid-30s, if not older. Reality is not that that takes anything away from what happened back in 2002 to 2005. But I think it's important to realize what Donald Trump is doing in the whole sex trade end of things, closing the border, shutting those things down, what Tom Holman is doing as far as all that goes. He's talked about those things in regards to illegal immigration, what's happening with, you know, the cartels and so on. So the reality is this administration is doing a ton in that particular effort. I think, though, Bob, what happens with with Megan and I'll tell you, I think Trump makes some mistakes at times. He tends to listen to the base. He then feeds the base. In other words, you know, when I become president, I'll release the files. Well, you know, he probably should have said once I see what's in them, I'll determine whether I'm going to release them or not. But let's get elected first and then we'll cross that bridge. You know, when we get there, he didn't say that. So to his fault, he made some promises to MAGA that now he really can't fulfill. And MAG is very mad over that, which, by the way, I think they're wrong in being mad because, as I'm saying, I just don't think this is that big of a deal when it's all said and done. And I say that big of a deal. This issue with the files, it's a big deal in what he did. But on the same token, he's no longer around. He's dead. Has he paid the price? I'm guessing right now he's probably in a place where he's most likely paying that price, Bob. So the reality is, I think he most likely is. So at the end of the day, I'm with Trump. I just feel like this is a nothing burger, unfortunately, for MAGA. Maybe this is something we can get into and talk a little bit more in detail throughout the podcast here. Unfortunately, we have a movement whereby we're always looking for a single silver magic bullet that's going to end the other side. And the reality, Bob, is that doesn't exist. The way you beat the other side is through winning, winning elections, constantly working hard to make sure that we are ahead of them. It's something our side, frankly, Bob, hasn't learned. Our strategy stinks at times. Our messaging stinks at times. We're always looking for the silver bullet. And this isn't it. I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, I'm with you on this. And I've caught a little bit of heat as well for saying that I'm on Trump's. Oh, you're just taking Trump's side no matter what. You're just helping him cover something up. No. You know what? I really do believe the better thing is to move on here with this. The fact is that Donald Trump, and you brought up the closing of the borders, and this is so true, just closing the borders alone has done more to save children from sex traffickers and human traffickers than just about anything any Democrat Party combined has done. This has been really huge. So this is a passion issue for Donald Trump. And I'll just tell you, John, what I mean, one of the things that I told my audience on my show is that do I think Jeffrey Epstein has a client list and Pam Bondi is lying? No, I think Pam Bondi is telling the truth. But I can't rule out the possibility – and here's where you and I might disagree a little bit. I can't rule out the possibility that Jeffrey Epstein may have told a lot of the power brokers that he would deal with. told them there is no client list, but secretly in a safety deposit box somewhere, he has one just in case he needs it for leverage. If he's getting whatever, you know, if he gets into some kind of blackmailing thing with somebody or whatever that he's got some kind. So it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't have a secret list somewhere. And that's why I don't want to completely die on the hill that there is no list that's ever going to come out I can't rule out the possibility that Maxwell might not end up producing one at some point that was a secret list that nobody knew about. Okay. But even if that did happen, then we have to ask ourselves, who would be on that list? Well, number one, I think the overwhelming majority of them are going to be liberal left-wing Hollywood types, Hollywood producers, directors, actors, a bunch of politicians, mostly Democrats, probably some Republicans. Okay. And so, you know, that wouldn't surprise me. Now, might Donald Trump's name be on that list? If there were a list and his name were on there, somehow connected to underage girls, that would absolutely shock me because I do believe- You'd already know, Bob.
SPEAKER 02 :
If that list existed, and I said this last week on the podcast, if that list existed to And it's known and it's out there someplace. And there was the ability for the left to have leaked that out prior to the last election. They would have.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's what I was going to come back full circle to. OK, because then the counter counter argument to this is with everything that they did with Donald Trump starting in 2015, they went through not only every orifice of his body, but every orifice of everyone who's ever known Donald Trump's body. Yeah. There is no way in the world if Donald Trump's name was on some client list of Jeffrey Epstein, that would not have been uncovered. Somebody would have leaked that. Somebody would have stabbed him in the back. So there's just no way. So for that reason, I tend to say I don't believe that there's a Donald Trump smoking gun on a client list somewhere. But let's take the absolute worst case scenario and that he actually really was on some client list. Let's be honest. Back then, Donald Trump was a liberal, Democrat-voting, sleazy, womanizing, vulgar, playboy billionaire. I wouldn't have put it past him back then to have a prostitute or two. That doesn't make it right as a Christian. We certainly consider that wrong. But that's the world that he was part of back then. He left that world in 2015 and said, I'm going to go across the street and associate myself with born-again believers and pro-lifers and conservatives. And he traded in that old world for this world. As Christians, we believe in redemption. I don't know his heart. I'm not going to pretend to know his heart. But I do know the fruit that he's produced. And he's left that group and he's come over to this group. So if he had it, you know, Stormy Daniels, maybe he didn't sleep with Stormy Daniels. If she's lying, that's fine. But I wouldn't put it past him to have slept with some other porn star back when. That's who he was at that point. Okay, fine. But... And so to me, even if there was a list that came out and his name was on it, I think we'd have to put it into context of that was back during his Playboy billionaire sleazy days anyway. But frankly, I don't think there's a list that's going to be out there, and I don't think his name would be on it because I think that would have been uncovered by now.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree with you on that. And again, that's why I wanted to mention to folks that I think we tend to forget how long ago, you know, these events and what's actually going to be in these files actually is 2002 to 2005. Because there's folks I'm still getting, you know, text messages and emails on. Well, then, you know, I know where you stand, John. I don't necessarily agree with this. So just just have them release everything. Well, we can talk about that for a moment as well, Bob, because frankly, on that one. No, I don't agree with that one either, because the reality is most people would be like a monkey reading a road map. They would have no idea the press included. It's like it's like when when, you know, you talked about the analyzing of Donald Trump and looking at every orifice, including his tax returns, by the way, that were leaked in the reality back then. And we talked about it on this program. How many reporters and folks don't even know how to read a tax return and nonetheless know exactly what's in it, what's going on, and accusing him of fraud when they don't even know what's inside of the return and can't read one in the first place. So you take that end of things to where they don't even know how to read a tax return, and you're going to have them go through and read the Epstein files and come up with some determination as to what's actually there. Yeah, no, that's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And are there going to be pictures of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein? Of course there is. Anybody who's a mover and shaker has been to Jeffrey Epstein parties, has probably been to his island, has been photographed with him. Anybody who's a mover, shaker, liberal or right wing, it makes no difference. So that that to me is now I will say this. If it turns out in the files that there are some prominent people who were engaging in underage prostitution, illegal stuff, you know, raping some 14-year-old girl, fine. Throw the book at them, okay? If statute of limitations is still in place, then you hold them accountable legally for that. But this notion of let's get into the titillating aspects of laying everything out there so that we can divert away from the attention of the business of this country and foreign policy and everything else and spend the next two years doing nothing more than sifting through supermarket tabloid kind of sleazy stuff. I do that. Even James Carville said, you know, this is a distraction, you know. So let's get to the business.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. So let's get to the business at hand.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm with you. And so, Bob, really quick. And I know that, you know, I know we're always short on time here, but reality is, you know, why then are there such hard? I've had them call in. I've had conversations. I'm trying to get some of these folks to really calm down and even look at things differently than they they currently are. You know, look at things through a rational lens versus just emotional. How do we get that hardcore mega supporter to understand the things you and I are talking about?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know. Just say what we're saying. And the problem is some MAGA people are going to be – they either A, want some prominent Democrat scalps and so they're pushing for that or B, they're feeling like we're acting like Democrats by doing a cover-up thing for Trump potentially. And I'm just saying that the logic doesn't support that. It just – it really doesn't. So – But anyway, we've got a lot more to talk about here. In the second half, we're going to get to the Major League Baseball All-Star Game, which happened on Tuesday night of this week. But first, we do want you folks to support the sponsors to this podcast, like John's SunPower LED.
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Continuing the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Neil Boron, Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. He'll be back with us next week. So, John, let's talk about the All-Star Game. It was Tuesday night. We're recording this podcast on Wednesday morning, so for us it was last night. For people that are into all-star games, I mean, any kind of game you look at, the National League was up 6-0, and then the American League rallied back and made it a 6-6 tie. Okay. And at the end of the ninth inning, it's a 6-6 tie. The Major League Baseball, before we get to the controversy about Atlanta, first, I'm curious to get your take on this. What do you think about this swing-off thing today? that they do now. They don't go into a 10th inning, 11th inning. What they do is they just have each side pick their best three hitters, and their best three hitters go out there and swing. And you get three swings, and whoever hits the most home runs in those three swings from a soft pitch, that's who wins. And so the National League hitters hit four home runs, where the American League hit three home runs. And so there you go.
SPEAKER 02 :
Me personally, anything you can do to change up the game of baseball to make it more watchable, I'm in because that is not my favorite sport. Does that make it more watchable though? And everybody else is going to be mad at me for saying that. But keep in mind, I grew up in Colorado where we did not until the Rockies came in around 1990 or so. We did not have professional baseball in Colorado. So I did not grow up like a lot of the nation did, you know, watching baseball because frankly, Bob, we didn't have it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. Well, look, I have to say, in all fairness, the number one team in all of Major League Baseball right now, the number one team happens to be the Detroit Tigers. So I got to tell you, it's on everybody's radar screen here in Michigan, of course. I'm sure. And understandably so. And I'm sure if the Rockies were. We're number one team. Yeah, that ain't ever going to happen, so don't worry about that one. That's not happening, so don't worry. Yeah, I thought it was weird. But anyway, the swing-off thing. But here's the main thing I want to talk about, all right? I want to throw this out on the table, and allow me to rant for just a couple of minutes here, John, and then I want to get your take and reaction on this. We all remember back in 2021. When Georgia, the Republicans in Georgia passed the voter integrity law. Now, this voter integrity law was one of the requirements in there was that you had to show photo ID to vote, just like you have to show photo ID for just about everything else that you do. And by the way, can I say, if you want to attend the Democratic National Convention, you have to show photo ID. If you want to go to the All-Star Game and pick up your tickets at Will Call, you have to show photo ID. So does that mean that they were trying to stop black people from seeing the All-Star Game? They're trying to stop black people from getting into the Democratic National Convention? This is absurd. You need photo ID for just about everything. That was part of the voter integrity law. They also actually made it easier for people to vote. They increased the number of voting precincts so you'd have shorter lines. They lengthened the hours for voting. They extended the dates for early voting to make it easier for everybody to vote. And the boxes, the ballot boxes increased. which were never – there wasn't one single ballot box anywhere in Georgia before COVID, but then they were everywhere during COVID. Democrats wanted to keep ballot boxes. Republicans wanted to get rid of ballot boxes. Why? Because they're rife with fraud. It's easy to take a whole stack of fraudulent votes and stuff a ballot box with them. So why do you think Democrats wanted to keep them, of course? So Republicans said, you know what? We'll give you the ballot boxes, too. We'll keep them. But we are going to reduce the number of them. But we're going to go ahead and keep the ballot boxes. Well, anyway, we were told this is Jim Crow 2.0. Those are the words Joe Biden used. Democrats called it Jim Crow on steroids. And I got to say this, too. It's an important point. When you say there's something on steroids. What that means is that what you're now talking about is a stronger version of what was before. So if you say asking people for ID is Jim Crow on steroids, what you're saying is that that's more racist than turning fire hoses and dogs on black people trying to cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge. I mean, seriously? It's worse than Jim Crow laws were? Anyway... I'm going to suppress the black vote. Well, it turns out that didn't happen. In the 2022 midterms, black voter turnout in Georgia hit the highest levels ever recorded. And since then, voter turnout has been higher than it was before the voter integrity law. But doesn't change the fact Major League Baseball in 2021 said, we're going to stick up for black people and here's how we're going to do it. We're taking the All-Star game out of Atlanta and we're moving it to Denver, Colorado. Well, the All-Star Game brings tens of millions of dollars of revenue to local businesses. Most of the local businesses in Atlanta were black-owned businesses that lost out on that money so that it could go, nothing personal, John, to Lily White Denver. Where most of the businesses there are white-owned businesses, so they got to enjoy your backyard, but they got to enjoy tens of millions of dollars of revenue in 2021. And that was MLB's way of sticking up for the black voter in Georgia. Well, now here we are, 2025. The All-Star Game, what do you know? It's back in Atlanta. But, John, unless I've missed something, the law, the voter integrity law has not been changed. It's the very same voter integrity law. So if it was Jim Crow on steroids back then, why isn't it Jim Crow on steroids now? And where do all the conservatives who are called racists go to get their apologies? All right. Rant done. I'd love to throw this.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, no, you're you're spot on. And you're right. And we talked about this on the podcast, I believe. You know, back then, because of the fact that it moved from Atlanta to Denver, to your point. And again, I'm a native here. I know our area. And yeah, there's probably only a few other places in America that have stadiums whereby there would be less black individuals than Denver, Colorado. We don't have a large population. We have a lot of other minority populations. here but we don't just straight up we don't have a lot of of you know black individuals that live in this area i've got several friends that are you mind you which is odd because we just don't have as a as a percentage a lot of them uh but at the end of the day bob yeah they took it from a place and i think the point that you made was really really clear and we talked about this again back during that time is the amount of black business owners i'm a small business owner myself i can't think of anything that would have been more disheartening at that time black white or otherwise to have had that game pulled, you're gearing up, you've got everything ready, you've got all your staffing put together, you've been knowing this has been coming now for quite some time, you've got everything all dialed in, and all of a sudden the MLB, because of some stupid reason, pulls it, it then goes to Denver. Yeah, I would have been very, very, very ticked off at that no matter what race I was. Oh, I know. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
But you know what? To me, it shows the absolute hypocrisy, stupidity, everything else of what they did. And they're hoping that people get amnesia to this. And it's like, no, no. I want everybody to remember what was being said back in 2021 and what Major League Baseball did and all the people that are boycotting Georgia and everything else. Which, on a side note, can I just say, John, if I were a black guy... And I'm a white guy, so I know you can say, what do you know, Bob? OK, fine. But if I were a black guy, I really honestly believe that I would be offended by the notion that I'm too stupid to be able to get a photo ID to go vote. OK, it's like, really? You talk about the racism of low expectations. Black people are no less capable of doing this.
SPEAKER 02 :
And they feel the same way you and I do that. This is just ridiculous. And by the way, these are people that are not as far right as you and I are. And they feel like, yeah, this whole this whole discussion, the whole dialogue around it is absolutely ludicrous. I mean, these are people that, you know, we know where they're they're very involved in the community. One of them's a police officer. I mean, the reality is they understand their community about as well as anybody and they think it's stupid.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. So maybe, just maybe, I doubt it, but maybe some wokest out there will learn a little bit of a lesson and maybe remember something like this the next time somebody on the left starts playing the race card about something so ridiculously stupid as this. Think about all the things you need photo ID for. And by the way, if black voter turnout increased after this law and it's continued to increase since the law went into effect, maybe just maybe it was the liberal left lying to you about this and trying to pour lighter fluid on racial tension in this country. So how about we get mad at them for that? And demand some apologies.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bob, they are the biggest racists of all time. If you really want to get down to it. They are total racists through and through. You know, I keep talking about it all the time. It literally is good versus evil. And that is the evil side. And anything they can do to stir things up and make themselves look better. And as we always say, anything they're accusing us of is what they're doing.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. That's right. Well, they need to keep racial tension red hot in this country so that they can continue to buy votes from people convincing them that they're part of a victim class. That's how they try to hold on to power in the Democrat Party because they can't win a debate on the actual issues and results. from policy. Hey, listen, we do want you folks, because we got more to talk about this afternoon, this morning in this podcast, but we want you to support our sponsors, okay, like SunPower LED, like Preborn. Preborn shows, in pro-life centers across the country, shows ultrasound images of babies to their moms. And moms choose life when they see a picture of their baby. They don't go across the street to Planned Parenthood. So we're asking everybody in the audience to pay for ultrasound images because they do cost money. And you could do this one of two ways. You can either on a larger scale, buy an ultrasound machine or on a smaller scale, pay for an individual number of images. Now, if you can buy an ultrasound machine, they're 15 grand a piece. Nice tax write off for you. But you know, your forever legacy is you're stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year. Think about that. Maybe you've given a pre-born already. Would you consider doing it again? Now, on the lesser scale, if you could pay for an individual number of images, $28 is the average ultrasound expense to save one baby's life. How many babies' lives will you save? Take $28 times, fill in the blank. Pray about a number. That's your forever legacy. So everything you give to Preborn 100% goes to fund ultrasounds, not a dime for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So here's how you give. Go online to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or they answer the phones 24-7, so call 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. Support Preborn. Support SunPower LED and this red light therapy, which, John, really is remarkable in how it works.
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Absolutely. And we appreciate you folks supporting that. So, John, let's talk a little bit about the issue with Ukraine and Russia, some of the latest there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Before we do that really quick, Bob, because that's a really important topic and I don't want to skip it. I think, you know, going back to our earlier topics in regards to the Epstein files and so on, don't forget, we've got the auto pen thing, which is also a major deal. And I feel like, again, it's another one of those situations for us on our side, whereby there's a ton of focus there. And while no, I don't agree with the auto pen. In fact, I don't agree with it. I think it ought to be used in very, very minimal situations, not on a routine basis. That's my own opinion. That's maybe something we could do at a later date on a different podcast. But But I look at it on our side as being another one of those issues whereby, yes, we can be very upset about some of those things. But here's the deal. At the end of the day, nothing, absolutely nothing is going to change other than maybe we can put some legislation in place as to how that gets used moving forward, possibly. But as far as changing things that have happened in the past, I'm sorry, folks, you're not going to move on to other things that are far more important, like Bob, ending the war in Ukraine and Russia. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, let me ask you that real quick. And for the most part, I'm with you on this. What about the pardons? Do we make an issue if there's been some people pardoned by a president when they actually really weren't pardoned by a president? They were pardoned by either the first lady or the chief of staff or a coalition of Democrats who decided these are the people we're going to pardon.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And I thought of that one too, Bob. And again, I think the thing there is, is coming back to even what we've talked about with the Epstein end of things, prove all of that. Now you're going to have to do a complete congressional investigation. What actually happened, who was in the room, who gave the approvals, this, that, and the other. And, and again, I'm one where it's like, no offense. There's just so many other big fish to fry. And I get it. There were probably people released that shouldn't have been given those pardons. But at the end of the day, Bob, is it changing anything for us as far as how the country runs and do we have bigger fish to fry? Yes, we do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I do believe that you're right about that. The only area that I would push back a little bit is if the left isn't held accountable for doing some of these kind of things, then they're just going to keep on doing it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, that's what I'm saying. Let's put in some legislation and make to where that pen can only be used in certain circumstances moving forward, whereby there are some checks and balances in place where it's just not an automatic, you know, some aid says, you know, pen, sign this. Yeah, let's put some things in place to where that actually has some different parameters around it than it does right now. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. So Trump, when he campaigned, of course, I know a lot of the anti-Trumpers, they grab a hold of him during the campaign saying, I'll get the Ukraine-Russia war ended in 24 hours. That was clearly hyperbole. I don't think anybody expected it would be 24 hours. So I don't agree with Trump using language like that. But I do also say that if there's anybody that can bring about a negotiated ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia... It's Donald Trump. So I would trust him more than anybody else to make this happen. If it hasn't happened yet, I don't think anybody else besides Donald Trump could do this. But he, for a while, he was throwing Zelensky under the bus and flexing muscles with him. Zelensky kind of got online, said, OK, I'll go along with the rare earth deal and such. And then now Putin is like, OK, well, now I'm playing hardball. I'm going to do my leverage. And so Trump, after a few months, is basically saying, you know what, that's it. Enough is enough. I'm done playing around with this. And so, Putin, if you don't come up with a deal, if you don't agree to some kind of a peace agreement in 50 days, then you know something? First of all, in the meantime, I'm going to go ahead and sell billions of dollars worth of U.S. arms, including Patriot missiles, to Ukraine via NATO and NATO nations. And then number two, I'm going to financially cripple you because your trading partners, I'm going to slap 100 percent tariffs on your trading partners if they keep doing business with you and say you can't do business with you and me. So it's time for you to take peace negotiations seriously now. What do you think about this? What do you think about Trump's strategy to basically now strong arm Putin?
SPEAKER 02 :
You got to do something. And I'm like you, Bob. And I really did think and I talked about this even before. you know, Trump getting elected. I didn't think he'd get it done in 24 hours, but I did think in a pretty short timeframe, say 90 days, he could get that thing ended. And I think it just shows you how ingrained, uh, you know, how entrenched I should say Ukraine and Russia both are in this. Neither one of them wanting to give up anything at all when it's all said and done. I I'm with you. I think if anybody's going to get it done, it's going to be Trump. And I also believe what you're saying. He's fed up. He he's, he has done. It's sort of like you guys, um, You know, these are two kids that are battling it out. And I am tired of your nonsense. I'm going to get to the bottom of this one way or the other. And it's going to be painful on you. He made it painful in a lot of ways for Ukraine already. They've come in line. I think he's now going to do the same thing with Russia. The only difference, I don't get your opinion on this, Bob. The only difference is Russia is not Ukraine. In other words, Putin is not Zelenskyy. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that is a huge difference here. And this is where the Putin factor comes in. And that's what actually I was talking on my show about, John, is that I believe if we could be a fly on the wall in the Oval Office or the room where Trump is talking with his advisers, my best guess is that Trump is probably saying to his people, Look, we need to come up with a plausible exit strategy for Vladimir Putin where he doesn't appear weak. He appears strong. He doesn't appear to have lost the war. He appears to have won the war. He's got to save face with his own people, and he cannot appear to be kissing my ring. So we have to come up with an exit strategy for him that will work for him because, let's face it, Russia was embarrassed after the 12-year Vietnam-type war with Afghanistan, and Russia – on all intent and purposes, lost that war, even though it was a stalemate. And now the same thing. After several years, Russia can't even beat Ukraine. If he comes out of this looking like he lost the war with Ukraine, let alone kissing Donald Trump's ring, then Vladimir Putin weakens his standing, not only with his own people, but in the rest of the world as well, among his allies. So that, to me, is what's really at play here. Somehow, someway, Trump, I believe, is telling his advisers, I want you to come up with a way that Vladimir Putin can at least come out somewhat smelling like a rose, being strong, victorious and not bowing to me, but still agreeing to peace. And I don't know what that strategy is. I expect Donald Trump to start complimenting Vladimir Putin publicly now, stroking his ego so that he removes the possibility of making it look like Putin's crawling to Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I can't argue with that. And the other thing that's weird, just as a side note to all of what's going on over there, Russia especially, and I don't know if you've seen any of these stories of late, but I've been intrigued by some of this because I don't know where this mindset comes from, but there are literally evangelical Americans that are immigrating to Russia because of their stance on family values and quote-unquote conservatism and And they're actually literally leaving the U.S., going to Russia because of their stance on the LGBTQ end of things and so on. And I just find it so weird that you would leave America. And I get it. We have our set of issues here. Don't get me wrong, Bob. We have lots of things. You just talked about the MLB end of things and some of the things that happen here politically and so on. But at the end of the day, we are still a free country that believes in freedom and believing in the best for people individually. And I will tell you right now, that is not the way it works in Russia. So I just find it fascinating that people would leave the U.S. to go to Russia. I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, unfortunately, you get a lot of them that are buying into the anti-American rhetoric that comes from the left and hyper-focusing on the flaws and shortcomings in America. We're not a perfect nation? Of course not. But my goodness, over in Russia, they don't have the kinds of freedoms and liberties that we have here. This is a communist nation. Correct. And communism, I got news for you, communism is not scriptural. People make the mistake of thinking Acts chapter 2 and Acts chapter 4, the believers were sharing their possessions. They were sharing their possessions voluntarily. At no time did Jesus declare or Paul declare or anyone else that Rome should step in and reach into everybody's pockets and take their money and force a distribution of collectivism. That is not biblical at all. We're to give without compulsion. That's what it says in Scripture. And Communist nations like Russia don't operate that way. So they may – yeah, they may give some areas where they support some traditional values and it's like, OK, fine. Well, guess what? Homosexuality is also illegal in North Korea. So why don't we go live there? I mean, no. America – And really quick, don't give me the –
SPEAKER 02 :
Ananias and Sapphira story either about they being killed because they didn't share their goods.
SPEAKER 03 :
They lied to the Holy Spirit is what that was about. Right, they lied to the Holy Spirit.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, there you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. They, in essence, mocked God by claiming that they had something. So it's not about that. If you make a vow to God, you honor that vow, okay? You don't break that vow and then lie about it to God's people.
SPEAKER 02 :
It had nothing to do with the possession part of it at all other than they lied about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right, that's right.
SPEAKER 02 :
My point, Bob, is there's Christians out there that would say that in support of communism that you will look at what happened there. Yeah, you're not looking at that correctly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, exactly. Because Ananias and Sapphira were not killed by God because they didn't give everything they had, okay? It's because they lied to God. They lied to the Holy Spirit. That's specifically what it says in Scripture. And that's what God takes seriously. Don't play me. Don't try to play me that way. That's in essence the message that God sent.
SPEAKER 02 :
And really quick, I appreciate what you said about the whole... communist end of things is I think, you know, some of these quote unquote, you know, Christians, and I put air quotes around that on purpose that are, you know, migrating to Russia thinking they're going to have some sort of a better life. I just think to myself, do you guys not hear yourself? Do you not understand what you're actually buying into? How deceived can you be?
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. And I just I mean, I don't mean to sound rude, but I just my attitude is, well, then does Vidanya. OK. Yeah. Which people don't know that's goodbye in Russian, although I don't know that my Russian is necessary. Actually, you know, John, when I was in high school, I took Russian. And I was a Russian dancer.
SPEAKER 02 :
I did not know that.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I learned a little bit of, you know, like... You know, which I'm just saying, hi, how are you? But if somebody then started speaking to me in Russian, I'd go... Which is basically, no, I don't speak Russian.
SPEAKER 02 :
So...
SPEAKER 03 :
But that's about all the Russian.
SPEAKER 02 :
So really quick, you know, just to, and I know we're getting tight on time, but what kind of a deal could you put in front of Putin that would make it seem like he's winning? Do you give, you know, do you figure out a way with Zelensky where he gets a portion of Ukraine? Yes, I think we go back to the 20% of Ukraine.
SPEAKER 03 :
You go back to the 20% of Ukraine. You give him a piece of the land.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I agree with you, by the way.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you make that you make that part of the deal. And that way, Putin comes out of this with something that looks like he's got some kind of trophy he can put on his shelf. You got to give him that. You got to stroke his ego. And if anybody understands managing egos, it's Donald Trump. Let's face it. OK, but he's also a high stakes negotiator. He knows how to do stuff like this. Folks, we want you to support our sponsors. Support Preborn. If you haven't given already, go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. You can give right there. Remember, you're paying for ultrasound images so that babies' lives can be saved. Okay, how much can you give? Pray about a number. $28 saves one baby's life. Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that number is, that's your gift to pre-born, okay? If you've given already, please consider giving again. And don't forget, 100% of what you give to pre-born goes to fund ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead that's all covered by private donors. So CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Also, they answer the phones 24-7. So go ahead and call 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. Why don't you support Preborn? John, we wanted to support SunPowerLED because it really benefits them too.
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In this enlightening episode, Al Smith shares his expertise on retirement planning, focusing on critical decisions like pension allocations, survivorship options, and life insurance. Whether you're nearing retirement or just planning ahead, these insights can help you optimize your benefits and ensure that you and your loved ones are financially secure.
SPEAKER 02 :
TJ here with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith with me once again. How are you, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? Doing pretty good. We've been talking about retirement and all that kind of stuff, and I was just curious, what do you usually talk about with the folks that come in for retirement planning? What does that mean?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, if somebody's close to that transition where they're thinking about their 401k and where do you want to allocate that, where's the best place to have that invested? And some people who were fortunate enough to have a pension will have a conversation about that, especially if it comes to selecting a survivorship option.
SPEAKER 02 :
And how does that fit with life insurance and that kind of thing, with pensions and life insurance?
SPEAKER 01 :
If someone takes a big reduction in their pension, that's what they need to do in order to have a spouse collect part of their pension should they pass on. But that reduction in their pension will only benefit them if the primary worker dies before the spouse. Sometimes people choose life insurance instead. which may not provide quite as much financial benefit, but there's a certainty that the money will stay in their family.
SPEAKER 02 :
And is that always a good idea to do, or how do you help folks make that decision?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, it's kind of a long conversation to some degree because if someone has health concerns, then selecting that survivorship option is always a good idea because it makes it much more likely that your spouse will collect that survivor benefit on the other hand sometimes the other spouse may be anticipating an inheritance that is amazing and complicated and that's why i lean on you to learn all about the retirement process al thanks so much for joining us today
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you're welcome. Tell folks how to get in touch with you.
SPEAKER 01 :
You can reach me at my office, 303-744-1128. If you get voicemail, I return those very quickly.
