In a politically charged episode, we delve into the ramifications of recent GOP tax proposals and the Democratic resistance they face. House Democrats are working tirelessly to counter what they describe as a tax scam threatening Medicaid, potentially stripping healthcare from millions. This episode explores the contentious debate, with perspectives from various political voices highlighting the intense dynamics within Congress. As fiscal austerity looms, we analyze its potential impact on the Virginian electoral race, revealing a transformative moment in American politics. Additionally, we explore how a new spending plan ties federal funding for state welfare programs to payment error rates. This proposal has generated mixed reactions, emphasizing the ever-complex relationship between federal oversight and state accountability. Stay tuned for a deep dive into the critical political and economic issues that may shape the nation's future.
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Well, good morning. House Democrats are working hard through the night, both on the Energy and Commerce Committee and the Ways and Means Committee, to push back against this GOP tax scam, where they are trying to enact the largest Medicaid cut in American history. north of $700 billion, and independent observers have confirmed that if the Republicans are successful in passing this GOP tax scam, then approximately 14 million people will actually lose their health coverage. Hospitals will close. Nursing homes will shut down. This really is a matter of life and death.
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That's what they've been saying forever. It became a matter of death when they inspired that guy who volunteered for Bernie Sanders' campaign to go and shoot up a congressional ball field because they were talking like this. I'm just really tired of these people. I'm tired of all of it. I'm tired of the same damn fight every damn day. And it's all these crooks and liars and all of these people who make these stories up so that they can get something that best benefits their special interests. And Republicans aren't any damn better, if I'm being honest. To fetishize them and act like they can't do anything wrong. But I've never been somebody who's an ass kisser for Uncle Sam and I don't plan on starting now. I would be spitting on the graves of our founders if I did that. So we're not doing it. But yeah, I noticed that I saw a couple of pro-life organizations out there and they were talking about how, oh yes, there are some Democrats that are trying to include They don't want to cut Planned Parenthood funding and all this stuff. And I'm like, you realize that you mean there are three Republicans that are holding up the whole bill on that aspect of it. So there you go. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. It's actually already we've already been yeeted into the sun. Kane, it's like I'm already normally when I walk into the studio, you guys are going to bear with me. Normally, when I walk into the studio, it's like very. cold sexist it's penguin cold cold it's like a man came here and turned up turned down the thermostat and it's the only part it's the only part of a structure in which i reside that i'm allowed to control the thermostat and then i ended up i usually end up keeping it cool anyway oh my gosh it's so it's like 99 000 degrees outside already we don't get a spring in texas that's they don't they don't tell you that they don't tell you this stuff overnight Yeah. Overnight, we went from 83 to 99 degrees. So if you hear us panting or if we pass out from heat exhaustion, that's what that is. Just, you know, don't be worried. We'll come to. So the we're going to get into the big what a big, beautiful, but I don't know. It's I just don't want to call it that because there's a lot of garbage in it. And I was listening to actually not listening to I was reading rather a transcript of from, it was a Mike Johnson. He was on one of the morning talk show circuits and he was talking about this bill because, you know, right now, into what into, going into what Hakeem Jeffries was saying, oh, they're cutting Medicare, they're cutting this. I mean, that's literally what no one's doing. I wish, honestly. See, this is what, I can't run for office because I would cut all of it and then everyone would scream and cry and they would, everybody would be upset because austerity is no fun, but I would. And in fact, we're going to talk a little bit about this because the austerity issue is now in it's it's imperiling a race in Virginia. Yeah, we're going to get into all of that. We also have all of the latest with POTUS's Middle East travel. He descended into Qatar today. That's going to be interesting because Qatar, you know, that's where Hamas lives. Hamas lives in Qatar. That's where they live. And they've, you know, it's not like we don't really have a totally great relationship with them. in terms of them financing the deaths of Americans, etc., etc. But I digress. But I think his trip to Saudi Arabia was incredibly successful. I don't think anybody would say otherwise, right? I think that was a very successful trip. And that said, we're going to see what comes of this trip to Qatar because you know they're going to be talking about Gaza and the situation there and obviously what Hamas – I'm sure that Qatar is going to be doing its best to make sure that Hamas' demands are represented. So we're going to touch on that. I am not going to discuss the Didi trial because it's disgusting and I don't care about – This is what happens when vanity and ego and evil all come together in a perfect storm of gross. I would rather gouge my eyeballs out and eat them than to talk about the Diddy trial. That's not an exaggeration. You can add that to the list, Steve. You can add it to the list. Just saying.
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How do you have an appetite after you gouge your eyes out?
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Someone actually... Not someone. A couple of people actually asked me if I was going to talk about it. Like... Why would you want me to punish you in that regard? Why do you hate yourself? Why? So all of this, like I said, a lot to run down. Now, just so you know, a lot of what is in the bill Or what they're trying to negotiate in the bill is a draft. It's a very much there's it's a working kind of like a working draft, so to speak. So the one of the big things that, you know, for all the discussion about Medicaid, Medicare, et cetera, et cetera, is. So the new spending plan, because remember that was unveiled just earlier this week, it's restructuring the food stamp program, Daily Caller reported on this, by linking federal funding to each state's payment error rate. So states that have higher payment error rates would receive less in federal funding under the plan. So that's supposed to incentivize them to root out the waste and the fraud and the abuse. The House Agriculture Committee included the proposal in its draft bill. And that's supposed to be in the all-in-one legislative package. And, again, the food stamp thing entirely by the federal government, the USDA, the SNAP program, et cetera, et cetera. Democrats are mad about this, too. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why unless they're taking the money from the waste, fraud, and abuse. That's what I'm thinking, Cain. Because they... Now... The way that this was... There are some conservatives that are upset about this because they said that it puts the states individually on the hook for food stamp fraud. But... That's not something that the federal government – this is where it gets really tricky. You're talking about a federal plan, which is unconstitutional in the first place, and then states that are administering federal money through this plan that's supposed to have federal oversight. So it's almost like the way – it's structured weird. I mean, Cain, you would agree. It's a weird structure.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's like the whole SALT conversation. Yeah. You know what I mean? Where some states – They pay out, but they get more than they pay out? Kind of a weird situation?
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Depending on what their income tax is.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and their load as it relates to those welfare programs.
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Right, right, right, right. So the states with the higher payment error rates, they would receive less than federal funds under the plan. And again, this is all draft stuff. The Republican plan wants the states. Well, it would require the states to cover half or not, sorry, to cover at least like at least a minimum five percent of their food stamp expenditures. And then the federal government would just then go and fund the rest of it. according to the way that the bill is drafted. But if a state has an error rate 10% or above, or above 10%, they have to pay, they're responsible for 25% of the benefits that they provide to the residents of their state. Here's the kicker, 28 states go over 10%. I actually, can I just say, I thought it was way more than that. But some of the others are like at 9%. There's a handful of them that are at 9%. 28 are over 10%. And some are way beyond it. Some are like 15. Some are way beyond it. And that's all. The most recent data for that is from the USDA. And that's from 2023. We don't have anything newer. They haven't released 24 yet. But that's all from the USDA stats from 2023. And so, like, for instance, Alaska's. Guess what Alaska's error rate would be for this? The error.
SPEAKER 10 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Don't tell me it's more than 15.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, dude. Dude.
SPEAKER 10 :
What?
SPEAKER 18 :
D-O-O-O-O-D-E. Dude. It's 60%. What? More than half? More than half.
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60%.
SPEAKER 18 :
So literally, 60% of Alaska's food stamp budget is waste, fraud, and abuse. Now, New Jersey... One third of their benefits are misallocated. South Carolina, it's 20 percent. California has an almost 14 percent error rate. So they would have to fund 25 percent of the food stamp cost. That's like 15 billion plus three. It's like more than three billion this year already under what it would be. New York's is 13 percent. So they would have to pay 25% of their $8 billion in food stamp spending. So they would have to pay $2 billion to cover the waste, fraud, and abuse in that. And then the states with the lowest rates are still required to fund 5% because as of right now, they fund none of it. They don't fund any of it.
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So I'm hearing accountability in play here. I don't see anything wrong with this yet.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, it's so bad. It puts states on the hook for it. That's what I'm. That's what that's. So I hear I think there's some of the capital L libertarian folks that are part of the right coalition and the Democrats. That's that's the comment. That's what I'm hearing the most. Democrats suddenly are interested in 10th Amendment issues. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, this is a federalist.
SPEAKER 18 :
Just like they suddenly don't like refugees now.
SPEAKER 10 :
We all know that just like education, health care, and everything else works better the closer to local that you get. Hand this over to the states. Make them responsible. Implement this accountability so that they're effective for their own citizens. I don't see a problem with any of this.
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Now Congress is going – remember we talked to Representative Beth Van Dyne last week that had a piece on that that went out on Substack and there's also the interview that's up at YouTube as well. But they were trying to do $2 trillion. They wanted $2 trillion in spending. The way that it is right now, they're just looking to cut one. So there's one faction that I think is winning over the more fiscally sensible people. The people who can do math in the Republican Party wanted two trillion. The people who can't do math just want one trillion cut from overall federal spending. So they're trying to find it, you know, every which way. And then you have three Republicans that don't want to stop funding half a billion dollars a year to Planned Parenthood. And then there's like a little bitty, you know. things here and there, all special interest stuff for these people. So this is going to be the fight. And so this bill, which I think has taken too damn long, honestly, can I just say, if I'm a Republican and I'm in Congress and I know that I'm going to have a chance to cut spending even in two years, I would have had a draft ready to rock. Then I would have had a plan B draft and a plan C draft. So if one was rejected, I would slap the people upside the face, all the people in D.C. with another one. And if they didn't like that, I'd slap them upside the face with another draft and would just relentlessly keep peppering them with this stuff. So it took them too damn long. And I understand that they're all trying to negotiate. You got too many cooks in the kitchen. I mean, do you realize that the way that I understand we're going to talk about the Social Security stuff? I think can I just be I think the no tax on tips is stupid. I don't know why you're singling out one part of the workforce when everybody deserves relief, especially those of us who paid. An absolute a double snakes load in federal taxes every year and get audited every time a damn Democrats in the White House. No joke. Eight years. The issue there is apparently now you're still going to pay taxes on Social Security. That's apparently like not included. So we're going to talk about all of this stuff because I don't want to. I know. But sometimes people kind of grow when we get into the weeds. But there are some there are some like, you know, cup. There's a cups game happening here. And you need to you need to be aware of this. And we're going to talk about it. We're also going to get in, like I said, the latest with the Middle East in Virginia. There's trouble with the governor's race. It's been now classified as lean Democrat. There is a reason why. And there's a reason that a big red flag for Republicans coming up. If they don't learn how to deal with this, this result right now in polling is going to happen across the country. So we have to discuss all of this as we move forward. And of course, we have Florida man. We're also going to be talking about RFK Jr. and autism coming up later in the program. So you don't want to miss it. i've seen the amazing changes relief factor has made for so many people and i've seen it firsthand through my husband chris's pain relief from using relief factor right now it's easy to give their product a try because relief factor makes it pain-free with their three-week quick start for just 1995. get rid of pain and start living better relief factor is a 100 drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally developed by doctors it works by supporting your body's response to inflammation it doesn't just mask pain for a short time It helps reduce or even eliminate it. It's safe to take daily, and in fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective. Whether it's neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Give Relief Factor a try. With their pain-free trial, you can get a 3-week quick start for only $19.95, less than $1 a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. With their pain-free trial, you can get a three-week quick start for only $19.95. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
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It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right. So first and foremost, the annual inflation rate hit two point three in April. Less than expected. Lowest since twenty twenty one. But the housing market is still having some major issues. Again, this is all stuff we need to dive into. But yeah, we're not out of the woods. We're not out of the woods. And depending on what Congress does, we may not ever get out of the woods. California has a this is a new one for me. Exploding birds. They have exploding birds. They have an issue with exploding birds in California. avian mystery. It's Northern California. People say birds are just blown up. Residents of a neighborhood in a Bay Area community, they said that they found multiple dead birds in their yard. Security camera even recorded one of them. And it fell to its death just right out of the sky. And there was, yeah, wild. So they said that they're doing the necropsies on the dead birds and they're suggesting foul play. So they think that There's something going on. I don't know. Do I care? I mean, I do to an extent, but it's North Carolina. I mean, they've got needles and feces up there. I mean, what do you think is going to happen? Birds are out there with all that stuff. I mean, come on. So also, let's see. Oh, how nice that they waited until Pete Rose was dead before removing his ineligibility, right, from the Hall of Fame. So, yeah, now they're going to make Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson Hall of Fame eligible. Wow. Am I supposed to applaud that? They waited until after the guy was dead. I don't know. Google is going to pay Texas $1.4 billion in a data privacy statement, and the Texas House will spend all of it in a second, completely erasing any gains from that. So just anticipate that. Coming up, you know Poop Booty Juice is running, right? And he's trying to grow a beard. We'll talk. Stick with us. Of course, we couldn't do it without companies that make it possible. We're capitalists here, and we like Patriot Mobile. It is the only Christian conservative cell phone company in the country. Now, you're going to pay less, but I know that's what you're most concerned about, as anybody would be. You're going to pay less with Patriot Mobile, but also... Be mindful of how you spend your dollars. People complain about giving money to Netflix or Amazon. You need to realize that with your cell phone service, you are paying more per month towards that. and towards the values that whatever company it is you're paying to, that they support more than you would with Netflix or Amazon or anything else. So why not make the switch today? Get nationwide coverage you can trust because Patriot Mobile operates on all three major networks. You stay connected wherever it is that you go. You also have seamless switching. They have a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. Keep your current number. Keep your phone. Or upgrade. I mean, the choice is yours. It has never been easier to switch. Now is the time to be mindful and make a stand with your dollars. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch to Patriot Mobile today. Defend freedom with every call and text you make. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana 972-PATRIOT.
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One, that these cuts are wrong. And two, that these cuts are unpopular. Unfortunately, they might actually care more about the fact that they're unpopular than the fact that they're wrong. Since they're both unpopular, This is an opportunity to get their attention. We're all here for this town hall. I can't help but notice that I'm not even elected official or running for anything. I'm here. I can't help but notice a lot of people who are elected officials aren't. There's a reason for that, right? They don't want to have to explain this stuff.
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Yeah, he wants to be an elected official. He's running in 2028 or he's I think probably what he what he wants to do is maybe be somebody's, you know, be on somebody's ticket. Maybe perhaps that's kind of what I don't know. I'm guessing that was poop booty juice with I don't know what the hell was on his face. What was that dirt? He needs to wipe his face off. What was that? He's trying to grow a beard because that's the thing to do. He and Beto O'Rourke and John Ossoff, they all come from the same boring, progressive white dude factory. Like they come out like on conveyor belts, I think. I don't. Where do they make these guys? Because there's so many of them. They have so many of them on the Democrat side. Where do they come from? They're just all the same dude. And he moved up to Michigan because obviously he wants to run. He couldn't go any further at all. He couldn't go any further at all in Indiana. So he's going to try, I guess, from there. I don't know. I'm just wondering. But he also was talking about this town hall thing. Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Audio soundbite one. Listen to this because he was asked about this at this town hall.
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They're saying like, oh, well, this guy, you know, he's a criminal. Yeah. The whole point is that no one person, least of all, no one politician gets to decide that you're a criminal.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, my gosh. OK, I can't do any more. I need. OK, you know what? You know what? You know what? Who decides that? Who decides that? It's the law. The law decides it. The law decides it. And the law said, hey, if you enter into the country, it's it's actually a statute that If you enter the country illegally, that's illegal. It's like if I were to break into Poot Booty Juice's apartment across from Whole Foods. Actually, he doesn't live there anymore. He probably lives in some modern monstrosity in Michigan. But if I were to break into his house and say, oh, I am an undocumented guest, that would work, right? Seems like it. Yeah. I mean, it's not... The law determines that that's illegal. So it's not someone... There's not like some guy who is like Scrooge McDuck on a throne of gold bullion who's sitting up in the sky going, hmm, he thinks that person is a criminal. And just, you know, indiscriminately picking and choosing. You moron. That's the law. I can't... This appeal to emotion is so lame. Especially... when you look at how they're reacting to like those refugees coming in from South Africa which by the way I have I have a piece drafted for you it's a little fiery so I'm sitting on it I have a rule where if it's real fiery I'll sit on it for a little bit and then I'll publish it because it was one of those where I even like kicked a part of it over to my husband I was like Is it a little too much? I don't think it can be enough with this issue. We talked about that yesterday. But I noticed that as it relates to Buttigieg, he didn't say anything. He wasn't discussing that issue. He didn't bring that up. Don Lemon, though, however, audio soundbite 22, he was, this is Democrats now, all of a sudden, they don't like immigration and they don't like refugees a lot. Well, how did that happen? Listen to him. This South African farmer bull****.
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which is the most blatantly obvious racist ever. It is blatantly obvious the way that we treat white South Africans, who, by the way, for the most part, and I am generalizing here, some of the wealthiest people are well-to-do people in the country. They speak their language. They own most of the land and the property. And somehow they're being granted a fast track to become Americans while they're trying to cut down on immigration from other countries. You know, you get that from where? From the brown people.
SPEAKER 18 :
OK, so if you've we've in the United States, we've been here hundreds of years. Right. And somehow we're still smeared by the left as being outsiders. Dutch descendants, their families have been there for over 400 years in South Africa. People who cross the border here illegally, they're here for five seconds. All of a sudden they act like, oh, we're all right. We know more than you. I am I am actually the more I think about it. And I know we talked a little. We talked some about this yesterday. The longer I think of it, the angrier that it makes me. You know, these refugees and we talked about the violence, et cetera. And again, I have a piece coming out later today about this. I mean, they fled literal, actual genocide. And you had tens of them that showed up at the airport waving their flags. They did the right thing. They filed for refugee status while in their country of origin. And they received permission to enter legally based on the very real and very, very visible threat of genocide. I mean, they hunt down entire families, children included, and they brutally execute them. There was a story of some children who were very, very young who got first front row seats watching their parents get hacked to death. Mm hmm. For because they're white. And you have like these historically illiterate DEI hires, you know, on MSNBC and then Don Lemon. They think that these like again, they've been there for 400 plus years and they think they should like go back to Germany or whatever. Unlike the MS-13 gangbangers who, you know, have never lived in the United States that come here and all of a sudden they're more valuable than the citizens. So it's they finally I mean, this it's all about race for these people. It's all about race for the left. This isn't about it's not about people and it's not about immigration and it's not about refugees. It's about how can we bitch more and try to make ourselves victims more. That's all it is. It's all it is. Can I just say a note, too, because one of the piece that I have coming out, one of the reasons it's so fiery is I cannot stand the Episcopal Church. I can't stand it. I think it's a cult. Quote me. It is. Anybody that sits here and decides to ordain trans priests and celebrate abortion the way they do, I mean, it's actually, they've had entire votes on it. It is their church. It's not an offshoot. They ordain trans priests. They reject biblically defined marriage. They wholeheartedly support abortion. They wholeheartedly support lawlessness and disorder. And they think that accepting tens of people who are accepting abortion Who are fleeing racial genocide is a bridge too far for their supposed Christian charity. Because they ended that federal program the other day and they announced it this week, except it doesn't wind down until September. They get federal tax dollars. They got federal tax dollars to resettle people who are entering here illegally. You know, all of the discussion about these NGOs and all of these. And these religious organizations that were supposedly helping settle illegal immigrants, like, for instance, Catholic Charities and some of these others. I've been down at the border and I've seen it in action. So I don't need anybody to try to gaslight me what I've been down there to see with my own damn eyes. I mean, it is a racket. They're getting millions and millions of government dollars, our taxpayer dollars. The Episcopal Church was getting our taxpayer dollars in the forms of federal grants so that they could assist these people who are coming into the country, the deluge at the border illegally. And they act like, oh, we're helping everyone. You're not, though. You're pretending to help everyone when, in fact, you're actually facilitating criminality. And if you really wanted to help people, you would have been calling for stronger border controls from the get go. If you really wanted to help people, you would have been doing a hell of a lot more here to make sure that there wasn't an incentivized program where people were coming over the border and then they could just, you know, stay here, work here and never actually have to be part of the system. So this this fake church, I just don't I know they they they blasted the administration. They don't want to have to include the South African refugees because the Episcopal Church is a racist cult. Full of trans priests and a rejection of actual godly doctrine. It is get mad. It is. And they don't deserve enough criticism. wolves in sheep's clothing. They're the kind of people that have the millstone yanked around their neck and thrown in the depths of the sea, according to the Bible. So they halted it and they had their head of their Episcopal church send out all of these letters and, oh, we're not going to do this anymore. It's so mean. They had a steadfast commitment to fighting apartheid and racial justice and reconciliation. And we can't take this step. You know, we're going to conclude our resettlement grant agreements. I think that they should be sent an IOU. I want my money back. Why in the hell are taxpayer dollars going to this Kool-Aid cult that pretends to be shepherds? Why? Anybody have an idea? My husband was cautioning me. He goes, you know, maybe you shouldn't be that harsh. You don't want to alienate people. I want to alienate you if that's your doctrine because you need Jesus. And maybe maybe that wake up call comes in the form of my caustic words on the matter. I did eliminate the part of the program where I called Marian Bood a sentient cankle. So I was trying to be a good person with that. But this is the problem. I mean, how is that helping anything? And then combine that with the media reaction to this and the words. I mean, the historical illiteracy is insane. One of the reasons that we all know this. And Kane, I don't know. Do you remember like back? It was like in the late 80s and 90s. I just remember with MTV. Somehow this like came up on all of that. And there was like this pop culture PR campaign. to familiarize people with either what Nelson Mandela was doing or the Anglican Church down there and apartheid. And that's how we all know this stuff because we grew up. Am I crazy? Because I swear to you, that's how it was. Yeah.
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As a matter of fact, none of the news ever even talked about it because it was such a deep. You may have seen it on like a 60 Minutes type program, but it was such a long form, deep story. You never really saw it until the pop culture started bringing attention to it.
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Exactly. So we knew about all of this. And to see people go, well, why don't they go back to Germany? Like that bra that was on MSNBC the other day. They've been there for over 400 years. You clown turd. They've been there for over 400 years. What are you talking about? But they had a development on this. So their government, so their ruling party is the African National Congress. They called all the white farmers leaving cowards. And this is what they said in their official letter that you'll get later today here, actually shortly, if you're a subscriber at Substack. Quote, what the instigators seek is not safety, but impunity from transformation. They flee not from persecution, but from justice, equality, accountability for historic privilege. Now remember, everything from water to even trade, Your farm's ability to sell products and trade is determined by race. There are racial quotas. So even if you have a farm there, it doesn't matter how long you've had it or how long it's been in your family. But you're only if you're white, you're only allowed to trade so much or sell so much of your yield, etc., etc., etc. You're only allowed to water so much based on race. I mean, it is so absolutely insane. And here you have this church entity that is willing to look the other way because of race. The Episcopal Church is everything that they claim to want to fight. We need another Henry VIII with them. Now, that said, I told you it was fiery. There's a lot more where that came from. I don't like false shepherds. But the... I just I am just fascinated with us. But they said, yes, you know, we're not going to help these refugees fleeing. It's against what we stand for. I thought that, you know, your good Christian charity was extending to all those who are in need. I don't know. The other thing that we have to get into, James Carville is begging Democrats, please ditch these words. Stop using these words. You guys sound like loons. And now the party is angry at him. Now there's people are starting to hit back at him, calling him a grifter and all this stuff. I can't believe that they're trying to make me defend somebody. This is crazy. So we've got this. We have days of these United States and the latest with those Democrats that attacked ICE agents. At that detention facility, our partners, All Family Pharmacy, they can help you out with all the medications that you need. With All Family Pharmacy, it's all about convenience, and you can take control with up to a one-year supply of essential medications, things like your blood pressure meds, your cholesterol, your diabetes treatment, so you don't have to worry about last-minute pharmacy runs and stay ahead of your health. And it's all affordable. I mean, you can get it shipped fast. It's affordable, no insurance, no problem. They have straightforward pricing, online ordering. Shipping is just like two to four days, but if you need it overnight in a pinch, your health is always within reach. They'll make it happen. And it's all made right here in the U.S. of A. Your medicines are manufactured right here in America. You don't have to worry about inputs or precursors from China. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off. Use promo code Dana10. Don't wait. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family today. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use coupon code Dana10 to save 10%.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 12 :
I'm going to listen. I don't have to. I have a right to speak truth. Boys and boys, girls or girls, this judge does not belong competing against those girls, period. What a coward of a woman you are allowing that. And telling our women, telling our women, telling girls to go and compete against a boy? How embarrassing.
SPEAKER 01 :
You're a mother. You're a mother.
SPEAKER 12 :
Stand up like a mother. I am a mother. I'm protecting girls. You are a boy. How many people support the boy competing against the girls?
SPEAKER 01 :
Nobody.
SPEAKER 12 :
Nobody. Don't tell me to shut up. I was respectful to you.
SPEAKER 18 :
So the chonky lady, her son is running in a girl's track meet because apparently she's not woman enough to raise a boy. And I really think that that's what a lot of a lot of a lot of these trans issues are. The mothers are blanked up. There's their attention. See their attention whores there. Get mad again. I hope to alienate. Let's be honest about it. If you're raising a boy and you're raising them as a girl, maybe someone else should raise your kids. It's a problem. And that's all that's happening with this. And that woman, by the way, she was the one who was approached. It wasn't the other way around. The lady of the boy of the male, high school male, who was running in the girls' track race there at the meet, was the one who went up to that woman. And that woman responded back. That's it. And then the lunchbox wants to act like she's being victimized. No, you're a rotten, horrible mother. She's like, you need to care about kids. What do you mean care about kids? You're abusing your son. You're emotionally abusing your son by raising him as a girl and allowing him to embarrass himself like this. And also you're abusing the other female children. by demanding that they step aside because apparently the world is your son's stage and everybody else has to accommodate it's abusive it is absolutely abusive and then to try to get into another mother's face about it no hell no lunchbox that's not how that works not how it works at all i am so glad that we did not have to deal with any of those issues because katie bar the door I would have, I don't know. I love that lady who stood in between them because she was on the mother's, the girl's side. And she stood right in between because that lunchbox kept stepping to her. Like she was trying to intimidate her. Maybe that works in your house when you're abusing your kid, but it doesn't work out, you know, in meat space with everybody else and other adults. But no, this insistence that your abuse of children means you're defending kids, that's like what an abuser would say. That's like the kind of mind job an abuser would say. We have a lot more on the way here. We are rolling towards hour two. Very hot Texas today. Stick with us. Gold Co. is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings. Just fill out a quick form, no commitment, just free information, and then they'll ship you your free 2025 gold and silver kit straight to your door. No shipping fees, no strings, just a free info kit to help you understand how gold and silver can fit into your financial plan. I'm a big believer in doing your research, and this kit is a great place to start. So I'm really excited to be partnering with GoldCo because not only do they support my show, which I truly appreciate, but they've made the whole process of buying precious metals super straightforward. Because if you're a fan of the show, GoldCo is also going to tell you how to qualify for unlimited free bonus silver on eligible orders. If you qualify, you can even get a free half ounce silver Ronald Reagan coin. Totally free. Don't wait. Take that first step towards protecting and diversifying your savings with GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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Did you really not have any idea that he was not fit to serve a second term?
SPEAKER 14 :
Casey, we're looking forward. We have the largest Medicaid cut in front of us. We have the coal federal government.
SPEAKER 20 :
You're facing all of this because you lost a presidential election. And is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to run again?
SPEAKER 14 :
We're looking forward.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's it?
SPEAKER 18 :
That's it. Wow. No, they don't. They don't want to answer questions. I can't wait for the press to go apoplectic because Democrats aren't in the press. People like don't try to make your names now by pretending to be journalists. You miss that boat. That boat sailed. It's gone. It's not in the harbor anymore. It's away from the dock. There's there's no there's no reclaiming it. The idea that. People didn't know is one of the dumbest things ever. I guess they think everyone's stupid enough to believe it. It is amazing to me. It's actually a medical marvel, really. How many people suddenly realized that Joe Biden had issues? They took a new medicine. I don't know if you've heard about it. It's called getting a book deal. And like Jake Tapper is taking getting a book deal. And a lot of these people that were in the Biden administration, they all took got a book deal.
SPEAKER 10 :
How do I find out if got a book deal is right for me?
SPEAKER 18 :
Ask your doctor if got a book deal is right for you. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash, top of the second hour. Listen across the country. The stream is at channel 347, DirecTV. The chat's at Rumble, though. All that good stuff. Yeah, it's it's called Got a Book Deal. It's an amazing, like modern marvel of medicine, wherein you're able to see that someone is barely like functioning, like barely cognitively there. It's wild. Like they didn't know before. Apparently no one else knew. I love how the press is like, you need us to tell you these things. I saw him fall up the stairs. I saw him forget where he was and not be able to speak and have somebody in an Easter Bunny costume redirect him back to the White House lawn. Saw these things. The press did, too. And then they said it was cheap fakes when we would post the video of it. All those are cheap fakes. They're very expensive. Real video, sir. Thank you. It's not a cheap fake. It's very expensive. Real video. But they were insistent that, oh, no, you are all wrong. You're all so wrong. And I don't know. They were all part of the problem. Audio Summit 11. So Jake Tapper is, you know, he's not just he's probably not a client. I've got a book deal. He's the president of the company. Just this is what I'm talking about. Here's a little montage. Just take a little look-see.
SPEAKER 07 :
How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?
SPEAKER 02 :
It's very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to.
SPEAKER 07 :
It makes me uncomfortable to watch the Biden on stage search for questions. It's so amazing to me that... And then try and figure out an answer. A cognitive decline. President Biden embraces his stutter, talking about it, while Trump mocks it, exaggerates it, belittles it. He's sharp physically. I mean, mentally. I think the question is physically, right? Right. Or so. Right. Right. And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than me. I mean, you have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness, ability to lead of those supporting Biden. You said, quote, shame on all of you pretending everything is OK. You're leading us and him into a disaster. Do you worry that you damaged him at all? I don't doubt that that you got hugs and handshakes behind closed doors today and maybe even publicly some of them because they like you personally. But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic colleagues.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, just like we have like two minutes. Little kids with stutters. How dare you point out that the president literally has no idea where he is. How do you think little kids with stutters feel about that? What? Yes. Little kids with stutters. How dare you bring up the question of the Coke in the White House with baby infant Hunter Biden? What about all those children with scoliosis out there? How do you think they feel about that? What does that have to do? Shut up. What do you hate? Stuttering children with scoliosis. I mean, it just like just keep checking them boxes. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 10 :
And then one short year later.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, I know. I like here. Steve has this flashback from NBC. Republicans float a quiet conspiracy theory. OK, full stop.
SPEAKER 1 :
It wasn't quiet.
SPEAKER 18 :
They float a quiet conspiracy theory that Biden won't be on the ballot. And they talk about his health and his his cognitive ability. Oh, my gosh. They just I tell you what. Oh, my gosh. This stutter. Poor Joe Biden stutter. Poor America stutter. Like, no, come on. But now, oh, man. Audio Sun by 12. Now it's all different. What? What cheap fakes? What do you mean cheap fakes? Listen to this now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Obama's side of that story is he wasn't sure what was going on, but he just wanted to get out of there. And he wasn't going to get out of there without Biden. So he grabbed him and it was more just his impatience than anything else. But other people who were there.
SPEAKER 18 :
See, this is where he starts to come around. Well, you know, he really wanted to get off the stage. He probably had a pee or something. I don't know. But look, I mean, clearly he was very nervous and about getting off the stage and he didn't want to leave without his best friend, Joe Biden, because, you know, they go everywhere together. Right, right, right, right. They go everywhere together. I mean, the lies. And now they got books on it. Now they have books on it. It is amazing. Audio Soundbite 15. Wait, did we play? We haven't played 15 yet. Or was that the one we played? Is this a different MSNBC one? I think it is. Okay, yeah. They all are stunned. I mean, these reporters, everybody, they're stunned. What?
SPEAKER 15 :
We're just looking forward.
SPEAKER 18 :
We're just looking forward. Well, what about how you guys all lied and you hid the fact that Biden was in a severe cognitive decline? We're looking forward. No, no, no. We need to ask this question about this. It's all about looking forward. Looking forward, would you hide another decline in cognitive ability from a president of your party, sir? That's the question I would have asked. I would have been like, well, okay, all right, Senator Schumer, looking forward, would you totally lie your beans off about, you know, the cognitive decline of the president of your party? Would you lie again and hide that from the American people, you know, looking forward? Nobody asked that question because the press is still kind of scared of Democrats. This is why I don't like anybody getting cozy with the government. And this includes and this includes Republicans, Democrat press. They fall over themselves to ingratiate themselves with the Democrat Party. You've seen it right to the point where they won't even. I mean, the guy fell up the stairs and, you know, forgot that he tried to find a guy who was dead in the audience at one point. I mean, there's no shortage of stories. You guys were there. And they pretended that, oh, no, nothing to see here. Totally normal. Totally normal things happening here with Joe Biden. Totally normal. It's asinine. It's like, yeah, like Kane says, like you get pulled over for speeding. No, no, no. I'm looking forward. You just keep looking backwards. Can you use that excuse for anything, really, though? No, I'm looking forward.
SPEAKER 10 :
It really absolves you from any accountability.
SPEAKER 18 :
Why did you club that baby seal to death, sir? Well, we're looking forward now. We're looking backwards. Yeah, stop living in the past and be negative and divisive. Well, my whole point is that the Democrat press, they're terrified of burning that access to power. So that's why they covered and looked the other way. Wait, they're pretending that they don't know? Okay, we will too. They... had no idea. They want you to believe they had no idea. I don't want the right to be like that and be so ingratiated with government. You know, I had somebody bragging to me one time that they went to a cocktail party with some government thing. And I'm like, you're bragging about hanging out with the government. Like back in the days of our founders, we'd probably burn you at the stake. That's like worse than being a witch. Like, what are you talking about here? But they... They're never going to recover... any esteem not that they had a lot anyway but they're never going to recover any respect that the american people would have for them not after this there's not not at all not after this not after this he i i don't know i had somebody remark tap or acts like he bought a ticket to the concert when he was actually a member of the band That's exactly it. That's a great way to put it. That's an absolutely great way to put it. Goodness. Yes, when did you know? Oh, and then Chuck Todd on Schumer. Remember, he was also part of this. And now they're trying to really ratchet up their angst because they think if they act outraged and if they pretend that you don't know where they were these past four years, that they're going to be able to redeem themselves and still be relevant. This is the audio of somebody at 16.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's Chuck Todd. Go. He is among the people that are responsible for this. The leaders of the Democratic Party, the staff of the White House. And I have to say, I find everybody now talking to these authors.
SPEAKER 18 :
Can we freeze frame his hair? I am not. I know I was going to talk about his response, but what in the world is happening with that hairline? This is very important news. What is happening here? We just comb it forward now like that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Maybe it was a flow bee.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, the only people who have haircuts like that are the British kids in the projects, right? That's... You know what I mean, mate? It's that hair. It's that haircut. Anyway, I had to say it. Somebody had to. He's pretending that he's so upset, like he's part of the problem. You were all there. You were all there. It's like now they're trying to throw on red hats and be like, no, wait, we were here the whole time. No, you weren't. You guys were calling us names and saying that we were conspiracy theorists and the whole nine yards. You guys did all of that. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? No, they were there. They were there. They were involved in all of it. So I don't know this. I don't think that they're going to know this is audio somebody 10. Kevin O'Leary hit it. I thought this is a great statement. Listen.
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Of health. It's that simple. If you seek the Supreme Office, the leader of the free world, you give up the right for privacy with your doctor on a cognitive health test. This poor man. was broken and look at what happened to the country and look at how he's being beaten up. It's almost immoral what we're doing to him now to sell books. I was there at the White House dinner watching this. The same reporters who didn't report on him are profiting from his decline. Which dinner? It's outrageous what they're doing.
SPEAKER 18 :
Which dinner, by the way? Well, of course they are because information is a product. How it's delivered is another product. And that's one of the things that I hope everybody realizes. There is no pure news anymore. There hasn't really ever been, especially if you understand the origin of the press in our country. There's never been pure press. And there's never been a more odious attempt to, I think, make money off of news gathering than right now. It's always been a propaganda battle, always, ever. But now it's, I mean, they're wanting to merch it out in a million different ways. We're going to cover for it and make money. Then we're going to act surprised and make money. And then we're going to write books about it and act like we uncovered and got the scoop of all the people who knew. I don't believe in regular... I don't believe in that journalism. There is such a thing as the pure practice of it. I think there are some people that prioritize news gathering and giving information to the people more than they like to worship at the altar of their vanity. But... There's never been just like pure news gathering. There never will be. That has been a lie that has been perpetuated for years in this country as a way to sort of sanctify the press. And the reality is, is that they're in some instances like prostitution sometimes is a more really more honest trade at this point. When a woman faces an unplanned pregnancy, she's scared, pressured and often told her baby isn't alive. Preborn exists to change that by loving her and giving her the choice of life. Meet Briella. She was ready to take the abortion pill, but when it didn't arrive, she went to a pregnancy clinic instead. There, she received a free ultrasound provided by Preborn. Her eternal moment happened as her baby waved on screen. She knew then this was the baby boy she had prayed for. This may help Preborn bring life to babies and mothers. Just one ultrasound, only $28, can double a baby's chance at life. Five ultrasounds is $140. Their goal right now on The Dana Show is to sponsor 1,000 ultrasounds this month. Help them get to their goal. They're making progress, but they still need your help. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword baby. It's super easy. That's pound 250 baby or visit preborn.com slash Dana. That's preborn.com slash Dana. Every penny goes to loving mothers and saving babies.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
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Really don't think there's anything better than a Simple Minds bumper track of New Gold Dream. Really don't think so. All right, so the, ooh, Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. Everybody's very excited about this. I'm actually going to, I rarely go to the theaters anymore, but I am going to go see this. The first one was phenomenal. Well, the last one that they did. The storyline, AI, Warfare, was phenomenal. But he apparently hangs from a helicopter in one of the stunts. Like, I watched some video online. Dude, that's just absolutely insane. So this is the eighth film. It's called The Final Reckoning. And they're really paramount, which I think owns the game right now. They got a lot riding on this. So they said that it's been about $400 million, and they've had production delays, mostly due to the 23 strikes. It's going to be one of the most expensive films ever made. The first, the seventh one was phenomenal. So I think this will be really good too. We'll see. So data, so it's not just a feeling. Data is showing that also boys and young men, per the New York Times, are falling behind. Educational achievement, mental health, transitions to adulthood. indicate that many are not thriving. Well, that's just what feminists wanted, wasn't it? Wasn't that what third and fourth wave feminists wanted? They didn't want equality. They wanted to destroy men so they could give themselves something to bitch about later, so that they could always play weak, ineffectual victims. That's all they ever wanted to be. It's sad because they said now there's enough data to show that, I mean, everything from school to even perceptions in society, like toxic masculinity. Everything is designed to basically be abusive to boys. Education, hiring. You have like now women are outpacing men in top positions in major cities. Of recent male high school graduates, 57% are enrolled in college, barely up from 54. But now it's 66 with women, which has doubled in recent years. I mean, that's just the way it is. Mental health, harder for boys than it is for girls lately. So this is a real thing. And I think people need to get a handle on it. Also, your brain is shrinking even if you exercise regularly, if you sit too much. Interesting. So get up if you don't want to be stupid. Maybe that's kind of what it is. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Home title lock. It's your greatest asset. It is your biggest asset that you have. Is it protected? That's the thing. I mean, you have alarm systems on your car, on your home. I mean, you lock your doors, but... Do you really ever protect your title? And in today's AI and cyber world, it's actually super easy to do. It's becoming easier by the minute. People can forge your signature on a document. They can use a fake notary stamp, pay a small fee with your county. And then the next thing you know, your home title has been transferred out of your name. And most people don't even know that it happened. Until they start getting the collection calls and the foreclosure notices, and then they have to hire an attorney to prove that their home is still theirs. You don't want to wait until it's so late that you're thousands and thousands of dollars in debt just trying to protect what you own outright anyway. You need to protect your most valuable asset, and you can do it with Home Title Lock. You can get a free title history report and a 14-day trial of their million-dollar triple lock protection using promo code Dana at HomeTitleLock.com. So the first thing to do is check and make sure that your title is still in your name. You can do that with that free title history report, that 14-day trial process. of Million Dollar Triple Lock Protection that's going to give you insight into the 24-7 monitoring of your title, the urgent alerts to any changes, and if they find fraud, they'll spend up to a million dollars to fix it. Visit HomeTitleLock.com today and use promo code Dana.
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How did you find the Syrian president? Right. I think very good. Young, attractive guy. Tough guy. You know? Strong pass. Very strong pass fighter. But he's got a real shot at pulling it together.
SPEAKER 18 :
So POTUS, as you know, he's over in the Middle East. He's in Qatar today. He was in Saudi Arabia yesterday. And he met the Syrian president in Qatar. And very interesting. You heard what he was saying about him there. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of the second hour. So this... I think they had also said that it was the first time that the sitting American president visited Qatar. And they rolled out. They had the little jet escort as well. They had the rollout. I don't think it was like the Saudis, though, because the Saudis had that mobile McDonald's.
SPEAKER 10 :
It was still pretty impressive, though. This took place at nighttime and the way they had the whole path lighted up. Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 18 :
What is this?
SPEAKER 10 :
The horses and the whole nine.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. It was, I mean, yeah, okay, that was fancy.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that's something, yeah, Juan's putting that up on the screen here in a second.
SPEAKER 18 :
But still, they had the slow roll.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right there.
SPEAKER 18 :
The slow roll. You have the beast, what is it? Yeah. Yeah, rolling through. And a very interesting meeting. I don't know. Because this, you know, a lot of people are saying that this new leader of Syria is somehow different. I mean, he's a jihadi though, right? I mean, it was just one, you had two factions of jihadis that were fighting for control. So I don't know. I mean, I understand that, you know, there's got to be stuff done and they're trying to make deals and all of this, but I don't know. He's one of the Turkish-backed, been called a marauder, but we'll see. It's just weird. It's a weird dance that he's got to do going over there. But it was, you know, they're jihadis. And they had all of these terrorists that were operating across Iraq, Syria, Somalia. Well, I mean, you know, time is going to tell whether or not anything calms down. But I don't know. I guess they said that he's a little bit more neutral than some of the other jihadis. We'll see. But the... Assad's are out. They fled to Russia. So we'll see. He had he had announced yesterday that he's ordering a cessation of sanctions against Syria in order to give them a chance at greatness. And while he was giving these remarks, and this was at the Saudi U.S. Investment Forum, MBS was was applauding. And he actually even I think it stood up at one point to applaud that he got a standing ovation. So, hmm. Interesting. So they had celebrations around Syria after they announced the end. I mean, I don't even know how that's going to impact them. They had most of the people that live in poverty at this point. But interesting. A lot of people were saying that it was a shift in the narrative from being... how the united states was always looked at as an interventionist whereas now they it looks like more of a peace broker and i think that marco rubio has a lot of hand in that as well but uh yeah he's meeting in a number of leaders he met several other middle eastern leaders in riyadh met others in cutter the talks are ongoing and then we'll find out what if anything has been determined about gaza but Very, very interesting. I mean, he's talking about helping the Syrians have a possibility of greatness, is what he had said. I still don't want the plane. I really don't want the plane, though. I think that's just a bad look. And I think that's a bad look. But we'll see how this goes. I mean, it may be a little 4D chess. Syria has always been kind of a puppet for Iran for a very long time, not just for Iran, really. I mean, ultimately for Russia and Iran. And they worked with Hezbollah. And now if they are going to be removed from that and they're not going to be supplying Hezbollah, That really does kind of put Iran more in a box. And I think that the entire Middle East will see some stabilization from that. So you have Saudi pressure on Syria because they helped facilitate this sort of this this meeting. And they don't want to be embarrassed and they don't want it to look like a failure. And I don't think if they started getting jihadist again over in Syria, I don't know. We'll see. But it's a very interesting game of statesmanship that's taking place over there. Very interesting game of statesmanship. But I don't know. Maybe they can maybe he can make it a functioning country again. We don't know. And not by investment, not by, you know, nation building. But maybe perhaps in this way, it does look like the Saudis have really kind of stepped up in this regard, which, you know, they should. We've always been asking, where's the Arab League in dealing with us? Why is it? Must it always be the United States? So they had MBS, they had the Syrian president, Al-Shera, and Erdogan of Turkey. He was on the phone, but they all had photos together. So apparently they're open to signing the peace deal with Israel, stopping any kind of backing or facilitation with anything with Hezbollah, boot the Iranian guard. That's pretty significant, I think. And that's one of the things that POTUS has encouraged Syrian president to do. All foreign terrorists have to leave Syria. Any of the Gazan terrorists have to go. They must work with the U.S. to prevent the resurgence of ISIS, sign on to the Abraham Accords, and assume responsibility for all ISIS detention centers in northeast Syria. That's a pretty big start. I mean, can you actually, though, fully divorce the people who came to power basically through jihadism in Syria from jihadism? That's going to be the big question. And I think by meeting with him, I think it was something I don't think that the president walked into that meeting lightly. I think it was something that the Saudis were really, really working on. And that was it also makes the Saudis kind of like the de facto players with the United States. In terms of stabilizing the arena, whereas everything has been so everything has just been so volatile with Iran, with Hezbollah, with Russia getting involved. It also kind of sidelines Russia as well a little bit because now you have the Assad's out. Russia doesn't have a puppet there in the Middle East. And if you have a very close relationship with the United States and the Saudis and the Saudis are facilitating a closer relationship with with Qatar. And I understand I get all the terror, but you have to this is the world we live in and you have to find some way to operate in it for the security of the nation. And with Syria, that's going to be that's a big thing indeed. So we're going to see how this pans out. Also, let's see. We've got a couple of other things. We were talking a little bit about 2028. Where's the story at that I just pulled up? Here it is. Did I? I don't know if we have audio of that. I don't know if I sent audio of this. And Gavin Newsom now wants to stop enrolling immigrants who entered illegally into a state funded health care program that was supposed to start. Apparently, this comes by way of the Associated Press. I was supposed to start, I think, next year and now. He's against it. They want to stop the enrollment of illegal immigrants into the state-funded health program and charging people already enrolled a monthly premium for the following year. What? What? Now, they have a huge price tag on this in California. California is broke. They are broke. And I think what a lot of what is happening here is Gavin Newsom is trying to save his backside. And I think he's because he's blaming the tariff policies for the shortfalls for their. I know they have they used to have a surplus of billions. It's Cain. Gavin Newsom is blaming the tariffs for California shortfalls. Yeah. Trump's tariffs, you know. They were having this problem in California long before Trump was even back in office. Guys, like way. I mean, they've been in effect. Well, they came into effect six weeks ago, but they haven't even been in effect for six weeks because there has been pauses for negotiations. So I don't even know how that works. They're blaming Trump's tariffs for the billions of dollars in a budget shortfall. That doesn't make any sense. They've been this is this precedes Trump being in office. I mean, but you know what the what he's this is weird because it's pushing him. He's not going he's he's not having to come to Jesus moment. He's not changing his spots. He realizes that he's got to has to put space between this failure and him give some kind of plausible deniability. He wants to run for president and he's he has to go. I've been talking about this. I think I was I mean, I think I've been the first to actually talk about him as a serious candidate. I've been saying that's going to do do it for years. He's going to do it for years. And he's like the homeless encampments. Now with this, he's desperately, desperately trying to reinvent himself and stake that flag in the middle. Of course you knew this. Anybody who's been paying attention knows this. And, uh, he also now considers like male encroachment on female spaces. He thinks that's just not fair. He's moved. He's really trying to run to the center on all of this. Uh, You know what the crazy thing is? I was talking to a friend of mine who lives in L.A. and she was saying, well, you know, people out here will suddenly like him because he doesn't have dementia. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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So this Florida Man, they got into a fight at a school drop-off. This was in Boca Raton. This is like the most privileged thing I've ever heard of. A dad allegedly punched by a BMW driver at a Boca Raton school drop-off line. Yeah, it got crazy. Now, when I first saw the headline, I saw a headline that said a parent had been punched, and I immediately thought it was women. Because, men, I don't know if you all know what y'all's wives get up to in the drop-off line at school, but some of y'all's wives need driving lessons and attitude adjustments. Oh my gosh, get your women in check. I have seen, and when I used to do school drop-off, oh my gosh, I watched women honk at each other. It was a Christian school. They'd honk at each other. They were not playing men. So I was actually surprised that this was two dudes, in full honesty. So this was Monday morning. that a father got punched by an orate driver. Palm Beach County Sheriff had to respond. They said that they responded to a report of battery at Waters Edge Elementary School. When deputies arrived, the victim was dropping off his kid, a BMW caught in front of him. The victim honked his horn because I guess he was getting ready to drive and the guy caught in front of him. In an attempt to talk to the BMW driver, later identified as Kareem Mohamed, The victim pulled his car alongside the BMW. He drove in front of it. And then Mohamed got out of his vehicle and began, like, throwing punches. Approached the victim's car and began throwing punches. Sorry, sir. This is not Gaza. You need to calm down. And that's, anyway, he ended up getting arrested. He was totally arrested. They had to track him down through his license plate. This cool crossing guard had to take a photo because the guy fled the scene. Sinai has been accused of burglary with assault or battery and damaging property of over 200 but under 1,000. Like, just chill. Just chill in the carpool line. Just calm yourself. We could do a whole show on that. Let's see. A Florida man goes on a cashing out spree, smashing and raiding cash registers in a Walmart store in what has been described as the worst robbery technique ever. broad daylight it's a viral clip that started on reddit and a guy smashes all these cash registers to pieces and uh stealing all the money inside of it and then leaving he stuffed money into the pocket into all of his pockets and he walked to another payment point smashed it up until it opened took out the money and he did this on like a number of other drawers I mean, he was there for a long time doing this. I just am not quite sure how this is allowed to go on that long without any kind of security or anything. That was stunning to me. He had no money and he went from register to register asking for change for $100 without presenting the money. And then he went wild when they said, well, you need to give us the $100 to make change. And then he went crazy. He destroyed 10 registers and took money out of 10 registers. Police finally arrived on the scene as he was leaving. He tried to evade, but it was tased. That's like for I mean, how long does that it was like a while. That's like a long video. It was a very long time that this is happening. So I don't know. Tomorrow, I'll tell you about the gator that has a chair stuck on its head. Third hour on the way. Stick with us as we move our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Burn a Gun. I always am going to carry. I have zero issue whatsoever. And I have no problems using a bunch of lead to defend myself or my loved ones if somebody decides to F.A. and F.O. So the thing with burn a gun is you're not always allowed to carry, which is insane to say here in these United States. But you have municipal restrictions and private property restrictions and. Sometimes you're just left to the wolves and you want to make sure that you're protected. 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Now that Biden's not in the White House, now that a Democrat's not in the White House, now they want to track this stuff. Now, they had told you before when everyone was like, gee, why are the eggs so expensive? They were all, no, they're not. You're stupid. They're not expensive. They're just totally fine. You're saving 13 cents on your hot dogs on Fourth of July. And now they're like, well, let's look at the price of these things. Now they want to do some journalism-ing. Okay, and that's what they want to do. I really feel like this is something that y'all... By the way, why didn't they do this when Biden was in the White House? Why weren't they tracking any of this? When eggs were going through the roof. Where was this concern about the effect on consumer prices? Biden was in the White House for four years. Did they just now sit around and go, wait, you know what? Let's track these prices. Kane, you made a good point.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's funny. They're using data because, mind you, there's quarterly. We get data quarterly. Yeah. So we're talking Trump's first hundred days. That's a quarter. So we're still actually hung over from data and very weak data on that drag from the last administration.
SPEAKER 18 :
So what you're telling me is that this price drag is still left over. From the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, a large part of it. Yeah, absolutely. Because energy plays a huge part in how these groceries and other items get to our stores. No.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. I wonder if only we had an entity or people who did jobs that were about writing the things the government was doing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right? That would be so, I think, beneficial to have that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was looking at the House of Ways and Means thingy. I don't know if you saw that. Their little fact sheet that they put out where they're talking about the one big beautiful bill. And again, I know it's a draft, but why are people paying taxes on Social Security? And also I'm hearing that the top tax rate, there's not going to be any kind of tax cut for the majority of Americans who pay into taxes, which I'm not happy about at all. If taxes are raised or if they are not cut, no. Go to hell. All of the Republicans in D.C. don't care. Don't care. So they said, I just think, first off, abolish the IRS and get rid of the income tax. If you're going to go, go all the way. Don't half-ass it, right? Don't do this tepid little lukewarm stuff. So I see the no tax on tips. I've never liked this idea because I think you shouldn't single out one particular worker class. I think it should be everybody. You know, no tax on tips. OK, so if you're a server and you're pulling in 50K, why should you not have to pay taxes? But an educator who maybe pulls in 70 has to. You know, it doesn't make sense to me. I just like what about the what about the line cooks? What about those people? What about you know, I they're so terrified of cutting any kind of welfare for themselves. This is what we get. And then they're struggling even with that. They're saying middle and low income seniors are going to be able to deduct an additional $4,000. From what I understand with that, they're basically just, it's not actually, they're not actually able to, it's basically a waiting period. They're not getting a removal of their taxes. I can't believe that people, it's the dumbest thing when you think about taxes on Social Security. It is the dumbest thing. The government forces you to give your money up and then they tax you when they give it back to you. It is this. It's extortion without interest. At least the mafia is nice about it. And then they give you protection. You know, they'll protect your store. I mean, yeah, it's extortion, but they'll protect your store. Hell, the government doesn't even do this. The government's one big giant mafia that operates with less honor. Let's just put it like that. It's true. It's true. This is so stupid. So the lower tax rates and brackets, those will stay. Apparently, I'm not. This isn't enough for me. None of this is enough for me. This is why I tell you Republicans are too left for me, especially fiscally. It is. They're way too left, way too left. The, let's see, the tax cuts, I don't, they're talking about incentivizing expansion, growing operations in America, et cetera, et cetera. I don't know. I'm just, I feel, first off, I feel like this bill, the seniors get the shaft again. Everybody's been debating it, but honestly, you're getting a deduction, but you're still, you still have a tax liability. So that doesn't make, I mean, Cain, that's how I'm interpreting this. Am I wrong? No.
SPEAKER 10 :
what it is i mean you can't really interpret it any other way this didn't go far enough and i think it's because we don't have the spine that it takes in order to push what is necessary through based on all of these deals we know that are coming and i mean just the bellwether of the larger ones that have already happened the promise was no tax on social security for seniors yes okay this isn't it no it definitely isn't
SPEAKER 18 :
I got to call balls and strikes. This is what the Republicans are putting up. That's not it.
SPEAKER 10 :
So were they giving this as a concession? Because that's not how the original one read. The original one read that there was cuts for Social Security taxes.
SPEAKER 18 :
And the original draft? I don't think it was that. Well, not in any bill that I've seen that's in committee. I mean, there's still... debating and negotiating so maybe I don't know maybe it maybe something like that makes its way in maybe it doesn't but the way that it is right now it's it's still it's still going to get hit with a tax they're saying oh well you can do a deduction that's you're still getting hit with it you're still being taxed on it it's you still have a tax liability is my point so make that make sense I have my friends, my group of friends, they are divided into two factions. One of them are more like me, pretty independent. They just go for the more fiscally sane thing, the more fiscally conservative thing, too conservative for Republicans. And then I have my friends who literally wrap their vehicles with MAGA red. It's a true thing that's happened. I love them. They're at each other's throats. I actually left the text group this morning. I'm like, I've gotten 40... What did I get? Notifications? No, sorry, 52 notifications. I'm like, I can't do this. Because then they'll like, don't you agree? Sidebar. No, stop. I'm on air. I'm not doing this with you. I had to leave the group. I'm like, I can't. They're arguing back and forth about it. It's not the same as what was... what they all campaigned on.
SPEAKER 10 :
I suspect they'll have to break this up. It can't be one big beautiful bill. If they're trying to do this, they have to do it like this incrementally because they can't do it like this in one big beautiful bill and then we're done until when? September or when's the next one come up? So, no. If we're going to do this incrementally, then say you're doing it incrementally. It might be more palatable to some people, but you're right. This isn't what we were promised.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and I'm this and cutting at least $2 trillion, which was what was promised. That's not happening. Um, and I really liked what Senator Paul said yesterday about all of that in terms of what's being caught up in litigation. It's like, well, it's, you know, we, we, we can do this. It's something that we can do regardless. I mean, the litigation comes from trying to say that the president is doing it unilaterally, which he isn't, but he's like, you know, all we have to do is just do it. But I told you, look, if you go back to Greece, hang on, let me pull up my notes here. When you go back to what Greece did, when was this in 2011? So they had the EU's austerity requirements and they were because Greece was broke. They were they were absolutely broke. They had debt. I mean, the public to the debt to GDP ratio, I think it was. I mean, just last year, it was 153 percent. It's insane. They just they were having it was an economic collapse. They had loss of tax revenues. They had entitlement spending. I mean, it was insane. They were in debt so badly, it was just crazy. So they were going to cut public spending. And this was, it was first proposed in May of 2010. They were going to cut public spending in Greece. Well, everybody lost their minds. So they had this huge anti-austerity movement, which is not like what you would see here with the left, like people out there campaigning for more government spending, more government involvement. So they had an anti-austerity movement that kicked off. There were riots. You remember all the riots? Like people, it was like watching Burn Loop Murder. They weren't just like protests. They burned, I mean, they were throwing rocks at cops. They were burning things. There's vandalism. They were going to cut public spending and raise taxes for their austerity, for the EU austerity requirements. Because the European Union was like, you got to get your stuff together. And the Greek parliament voted to accept all of it. And then everything went crazy. And people did not want austerity. They did not want that. The Greek government demanded a bailout package from the European Union. They said that there were all of these requirements that went along with accepting it. So they said they had like four or five rounds of austerity measures that they ended up. They had an increase in the VAT, all of that. People were rioting over it. They were upset. There was a lot of unrest. And they looked at austerity as deprivation. When you have government spending so much on entitlements, you become used to it. When government takes care of you, you become used to it. And violent, violent riots broke out as a result of that. And I this is why I was telling people they think that they want a cut in spending. Like all of these people, they go out and say, yeah, we want somebody who's going to cut spending. And then when it comes down to it, oh, my gosh, when you talk about going and looking at Medicare or stopping any kind of waste, fraud and abuse or whatever it is, they lose their minds. Like you have three Republicans right now in the House that are not going to consider any spending bill that defunds Planned Parenthood. Michael Oliver is one of them. That's crazy. You have others that are like, no, we're not going to touch Medicare. We're not going to touch any of that. We have to. Josh Hawley from Missouri is like, no, we got to have something for the working poor. I thought you wanted austerity. I thought you wanted to cut spending. I thought you wanted to get away from the entitlement welfare structure that the system has morphed into this mission creep. They everybody always talks a really good game. But when it comes down to it, they're too scared to do anything about it. And then if they lose their seats, the next people do the same thing. They all talk a really good game, but then they're too scared to do anything about it. And the cycle continues. We've been hearing this forever. Didn't I tell you the last time that we had this debt ceiling debate that we they they were doing this before the election? We have to wait till after the election. Right. So, OK, February. Oh, let's wait till spring. Now, here we are in spring and we're debating this. Now they're saying, well, we may not be able to get everything this round. We're going to have to kick it to September. I told you literally verbatim that this is going to happen and it's happening because this is how it's always happened. There's not going to be any meaningful cuts. None of the stuff that Doge recommended. It's a stunt. It's nothing but a stunt unless it's made permanent. And there is not the balls in Congress to make it happen. It is, I hate to tell you this, it's not going to happen. They are not going to get two trillion cuts. They won't do it. Even if they can, which they can, they will not do it. Because it's fait accompli. Just like how they promised you Obamacare, they were going to repeal Obamacare. My gosh, Cain, we've been hearing about the repeal of Obamacare since 2010 when it passed. Here we are all these years later and nothing. And in fact, half of the problem with R&D and pharmaceuticals and everything else is because of the excise taxes in Obamacare. Medical devices shot up an expense because of the excise taxes in Obamacare. Pharmaceuticals medicines got more expensive because of the excise taxes in Obamacare. Health insurance got more expensive overall because of the structure of Obamacare, the refusal to allow different companies to compete across state lines, the refusal to allow portability, which, by the way, that was incorporated in not one but three separate Republican bills that were proposed at the exact same time. But Democrats wouldn't let them out of committee to be considered a disgust on the floor. So spare me the whole, well, Republicans didn't offer anything. They did, but not enough of them had the balls to actually carry it through, just like how even fewer of them have the beans to do it now. So no. And then now this whole thing, well, we're no tax on Social Security. Well, yeah, we're going to tax Social Security. That's in this. We're going to reduce your taxes, but only for a specific working class. Very specifically. It's a joke. It's not enough. I'm not going to pretend to be excited about it for clicks either. I mean, some people can whore themselves out that way if they want to, but I'm not. We have more on the way as we roll towards the bottom of this hour. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Caltech, the Gen 3 Sub 2K. If you don't have it, you need it. Now, I'm going to have to get this one. This is one that I actually do not have. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I mentioned this headline a little earlier, and we're going to dive into this more tomorrow. But the Virginia governor's race moved from toss up to lean Democrat. Now, why is that? Well, apparently it is because of the issues of job losses from federal workers. And this dovetails into what we were just talking about with Republicans being too scared to make cuts. Virginia is set to look to lose about 30,000 jobs this year because of unemployment. All of federal employees. Government employees. That's what it is. And so, apparently, that's a huge reason, according to the co-political report, as to why this race is now being classified as a lean Democrat. This is why. Republicans will sacrifice, like, common sense fiscal measures for power. Every time. So will Democrats. But Republicans, too. At least, Republicans make false promises. Also, let's see here. This... When we talked about some of this, some of this is old. Yeah, some of this is old stuff. So Disneyland apparently removed the silhouette of Walt Disney because people were saying that it looked like Trump. This is it was this thing on me. It's supposed to be Walt Disney holding Mickey Mouse's hand. Yeah. Apparently on X, everyone was saying that they thought that it was it looked like Trump and it was just a silhouette. But they said that it drew immediate attention for its peculiar headline. Hmm. Coming up, RFK Jr. and autism with our contributor Lorraine coming up next. Stick with us. GoldCo is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings. Just fill out a quick form, no commitment, just free information. And then they'll ship you your free 2025 gold and silver kit straight to your door. No shipping fees, no strings, just a free info kit to help you understand how gold and silver can fit into your financial plan. I'm a big believer in doing your research and this kit is a great place to start. So I'm really excited to be partnering with GoldCo because not only do they support my show, which I truly appreciate, but they've made the whole process of buying precious metals super straightforward. Because if you're a fan of the show, GoldCo is also going to tell you how to qualify for unlimited free bonus silver on eligible orders. If you qualify, you can even get a free half ounce silver Ronald Reagan coin. Totally free. Don't wait. Take that first step towards protecting and diversifying your savings with GoldCo. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. You can listen coast to coast, the stream, channel 347, the chat at Rumble. And again, we are not responsible for those people. Those people, we don't make them mad. That's all I'm going to say. If you are a subscriber over at Chapter and Verse, over at Substack, there was a really good piece. And I heard from A lot of folks on this, including some of my very good friends who either have like spouses that are on the spectrum or they have children that are on the spectrum because this is it's a weird thing. They're very excited to see America incorporate some healthy standards. But at the same time, some of the discussion on some of the issues is not good. And this all stems from, let me go back to this, April 21st Health and Human Services announcement. So they said under the NIH director, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, that they were going to create a new, and the phrase was a new disease registry for focused on autism and a lot of people were up in arms understandably about this because first off, why are we making a list? Number one, what is, I don't understand what the obsession is with registries, but also when you're describing a particular issue, It's like you can't use a blanket term to describe it while you're also simultaneously stating that you want to help alleviate it. It just, that doesn't help. So there's a really good piece from our contributor, and you know her, she moderates the chat as well, Lorraine Uriar, who I'm not rolling my Rs, she said I didn't have to, that it's called RFK Junior's Troublesome Autism Registry. And if you haven't read it yet, it is a must-read deep dive on this issue. And not just her experiences as well, but also why it's a problem that NIH is looking to deal with this issue nationally in this way. Lorraine Uriar joins us now via video. Lorraine, good to see you. This was a great piece. There was a lot of really good feedback on this. Give me your first thoughts. Thank you. I appreciate it. When you first heard this, like, disease registry, I mean, I have family and friends that either have kids with autism or themselves they have autism, and from my experience, that's how none of them have ever described this issue. What did you first think of when you heard that?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, the biggest problem to me is how RFK just talks about autism, period. He seems to have... I don't know the worst stereotype to apply to way too many people. He keeps quoting that like 26% number, which he got from the CDC study, but the CDC study put everybody labeled level three autism into that 26 number. And like, I have a child who's considered level three autism. And she used to be considered high functioning, autistic. So she doesn't fit that profile that he's talking about at all. I've said before, too, if you meet one person with autism, you meet one person with autism. So I know that our my family's experience with autism, because I have autism, I have my oldest has autism is autistic, and my my, my middle child also autistic. We're all on the higher end of the spectrum. I can completely understand why people who are on the lower end of the spectrum are all very, very much want something done. I can understand that because I mean, there's so much out there and it's hard to watch your kid be that way and not be able to do much. But the way that RFK is talking about everything, I don't think he's actually looking for what people think he is. I think he's looking for, I think he's already got an answer in mind, and he's looking for data that will support that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Interesting, because he uses the phrase and you you touched on this as well, on the phrase profound autism. It's a new term that you wrote was coined in 2022. And you write that's meant to refer to people who need 24 seven care who can't live on their own and you talked about these this is where you said the stereotypes that he's referring to belong but you also say well the cdc seems to classify everyone on level three as such and then there's even more problems yeah well level three is like um you're non-verbal or barely verbal
SPEAKER 19 :
Like, I mean, in, in my case, my, my daughter can talk, um, but she doesn't talk to people she doesn't know. It shouldn't talk often. So she got classified as level three. Um, but she's nowhere near anything like what he describes as, you know, this profound autism. Profound autism is meant to, um, basically for the kids that are like, or the, or the people that are, um, the IQ is under 50. And that's what profound is supposed to mean. And the whole reason for this term profound is because The DSM-5 kind of screwed us all up and dumped us all into one big pile and then tried to sort it out with these levels. And they don't really do much.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. And that's a problem. We're talking with Lorraine Urar, if you're listening, moderator over at the chat at Rumble and a contributor at Chapter and Verse as well. You really dove deep into this because you noted, too, the study that he cites, you know, the number of these diagnoses have increased over the years. But that profound, again, going back to that newly coined phrase, that's actually stayed relatively steady. But they yeah, his claim is that it's a growing epidemic.
SPEAKER 19 :
How do you take that? I look at the data and he likes to say, oh, well, it can't possibly be because of better diagnostics. But and in fact, in that article, I have, there's a chart from California that shows how it's increasing. And I plotted on that chart where the DSM five diagnostics changed for autism and where federal money got involved for the school systems. Because prior to 1975, school systems did not take special needs kids. It was very rare for a school to take a special needs kid. And once 1975, the first Education for Disabilities Act or whatever, I forget exactly what it's called, was passed, the federal government started funding this stuff and that's when school systems start looking for it and a lot of kids with autism these days are diagnosed in the school system and so you know between that and the no child left behind um which under no child left behind uh anybody that was a special need you still had to get standardized testing, but you had a modified test and your score counted differently. And so because of that, it kind of gave the school system an incentive, a financial incentive to start labeling as many as they could.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. That is I mean, that explains a lot, quite a lot. And you get into that with this piece over a chapter in verse over at Substack for those of you who are turning in or just tuning in. There's also the issue you touch on because I think that Dr. Bhattacharya and RFK Jr., it seems like they're kind of walking back this registry. Because the first thing I thought of when I saw that, when I, and of course you touched on this in your piece, but the thing that popped in my head was, okay, well, what about like privacy, like HIPAA and, and patient privacy? Like how does that factor into like creating a registry? What would that solve?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, the, the problem isn't so much the registry. They do have disease registries for other issues that they follow. And, and that's not necessarily the problem. The problem is, um, And I can see the good and bad to this, but Dr. Bhattacharya wants the, he wants to create a real world platform where he wants the NIH to become a one-stop shop for all of the health data that researchers might need. And he also wants it to be able to track patients in real time. And he says that inside this real world platform, the personal identifying information would be stripped out so researchers can't find it but it's going to be in there because they're going to be getting data not just from medicare and medicaid they're going to be getting data from the va tricare private healthcare industries your smartwatch wow they plan to get data from they plan to get data from everywhere and they want to be able to connect you that patient across all of those different sources so that your information is all tied together, which means that whatever way they do that has to be inside the platform where when they get my stuff from my private doctor versus my TRICARE doctor, they can link my name together and then put that same anonymizing ID onto that documentation. So that's a problem because the federal government's been hacked like a lot, like 1200 times in the last seven years. So yeah, it's crazy. So I don't trust for one bit that they wouldn't get hacked. And on top of that, he says, he seems to think this is going to help by saying that, oh, we're not going to let anybody download your information. They have to access it from here. So that means that whenever they want to work with data, they have to be online, which means the database has to be online 24-7. Do we really think that's not going to get hacked? Like that's going to be a huge problem.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 19 :
And the thing is, people need to realize this doesn't just apply to autism. He's planning to extend this to every chronic disease that they're doing research on. So diabetes is going to be in there, arthritis, anything that they do research on, any chronic disease, he wants all the data for it to be in this platform.
SPEAKER 18 :
And that worries me because we've, as you noted, I'm still trying to process 1,200 times in seven years. That is insane. I think of the Social Security information that was hacked and leaked, IRS information that gets hacked and leaked. Who's to say that? I mean, depending on who we have in the White House in 2028, I mean, we saw during COVID things be leaked and be weaponized and used against people. Who's to assure us? What's the guarantee that this wouldn't be the same? I mean, I don't see any.
SPEAKER 19 :
Exactly. There's, he's like, Oh, well, we're gonna have state of the art protections. Sure. Sure. And I'm sure they had state of the art protections on our social security data that got hacked. So, you know, I don't really trust it. I, I don't trust that it won't get hacked.
SPEAKER 18 :
I do.
SPEAKER 19 :
I do understand the benefit for what he's trying to do. Because like one of the things he said is that with data in so many different sources, the NIH then has to buy access to that data. And then they wind up just so they'll buy from company A and then they'll buy from company B. And when they get the data from both companies, they wind up finding out it's the exact same data. So they paid twice for the same data. And so I understand that I get what he wants to do and I understand it. But at the same time, it's a bit concerning. It's kind of like how the NRA right now, or not the NRA, the 2A, the National Gun Registry stuff, how the federal government can't have an actual gun registry, but Technically, there is one because all the FFA's have to keep all that documentation. And then once they shut down those, they shut down the little small gun shops, all that data gets sent to the federal government, where they're digitizing it because hey, it needs to be searchable. So what we have there is just a It's non centralized, but it's still a gun registry. It's just not centralized. Well, what we have now is still like a database for health. It's just not centralized. Yeah, which helps to prevent so much of it from getting hacked. But they want to just centralize everything into one place.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's terrifying, a terrifying realization. One last quick question too. It feels like their heart is in the right place when they talk about how to best assist people in the autism community. But I feel like this, it seems like it's a very universal, almost kind of one size fits all, or they're trying to figure out how to kind of distill it down to make it like the easiest and most kind of universal application. And I feel like out of every, that's out there. This is like so individualized that you just can't approach it that way.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it's difficult because, like I said, the frustrating thing with RFK is he keeps saying genetics is a dead end. Genetics is a dead end. But we already know there's so much evidence out there that genes play a really key role in everything. They have found one genetic mutation that is the difference between how autism presents in men and women. They have found hundreds of potential mutations that might be affecting how autism works. they found at least seven genetic mutations that appear in like families that have hereditary autism, like my family does. So genetics is definitely key factor here. There is a possibility that environment could play a role. But we also know that your environment can affect your genetics.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
And so there's there's studies that can be done, like the whole vaccine thing. Everybody likes to quote Andrew Wakefield, and his study was so bad and so debunked. And I wrote about that in the first piece I did on this. But we don't have any studies that show what vaccines might do to our genetics. We don't have any vaccines that show what vaccines might affect on our genetics over time throughout generations. And that's something that could be studied, but we're not going to get that out of this crew. They are so insistent. He has actually legitimately says that he knows that it is an environmental toxin or something.
SPEAKER 18 :
You can't shut off half of the queries like that.
SPEAKER 19 :
He knows it's something environmental because... He's compared autism to smoking cigarettes.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, you can't do that.
SPEAKER 19 :
You can't trust anything that comes out of this because, like I said, it seems like they already have decided on what the answers are. They just want to try to find the data to fit.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. The piece is RFK Jr.' 's Troublesome Autism Registry. It's a very good, thorough read on this issue. And you should definitely read it from Lorraine Uriar. Always a pleasure. Lorraine, this is a great piece. You do great work. Go and read her over at Substack, chapter and verse. Find her in the chat. You can see the chat folks in the back over at Rumble on the daily. Lorraine, always a pleasure, my friend. We'll talk with you again soon. All right. See you. See you. God bless. Your body is a powerhouse. It heals, it builds, it keeps you moving. But as you age, those natural processes slow down. And that's where Ancient Nutrition's collagen comes in. It's like backup power for your body. It helps you stay strong, radiant, and ready for anything. Ancient Nutrition blends ancient wisdom with modern science to create high-quality supplements, and their multi-collagen Advanced Lean features 10 types of collagen from real food-based sources. It's powered by clinically studied ingredients that support fat loss, healthy weight management, and lean muscle building. You'll love it because it can reduce your joint discomfort, boost your skin, your hair and nails, and plus, you'll love how it tastes and how easily it fits into your daily routine. Collagen is real and it works, and Ancient Nutrition's Multi-Collagen Advanced Lean has you covered. Look and feel your best starting today. Right now, Ancient Nutrition is offering you 25% off your first order. Just visit ancientnutrition.com slash Dana, promo code Dana. That's ancientnutrition.com slash Dana, code Dana for 25% off your first order.
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SPEAKER 18 :
So make sure you go. Sign up over at Substack. Chapter and verse. That's where that piece is at. Lots of good stuff comes out there on the reg. So make sure you read it. That's a very in-depth piece, by the way, with RFK Jr. and autism. A must-read. All right. Today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, since we have several cuts of audio for this, I just figure we won't play any because it was Chuck Schumer. Today we talked about Chuck Schumer when questioned about... So was Biden actually, you know, all there when he was president and Schumer back then insisted that he was. Now he doesn't want to be held accountable for that. He says we want to move forward. So that's going to be the new.
SPEAKER 18 :
We're moving forward. That's what I'm going to say. Anytime I'm ever wrong about anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, why'd you slap me?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, we're moving forward, Cain. We're moving forward. That's what we're doing. Folks, that does it for us today. Again, find us over at Substack, chapter and verse, like and subscribe, YouTube, Facebook, all that good stuff. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow. God bless.
Dive into the complex interactions in the Middle East as President Trump continues his diplomatic mission. CBN News' Chris Mitchell offers insights into Israel's reaction to the trip and the evolving regional dynamics. Meanwhile, Tony Perkins invites you to take action on pressing issues related to religious freedoms, as Alliance Defending Freedom steps into the ring to challenge restrictive counseling policies. Discover the grassroots movement to influence legislation and defend the freedoms we hold dear.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Big abortion providers are not a healthcare provider. They're an abortion business. Under this legislation, big abortion providers can continue their activities with private dollars, but the organization would no longer be subsidized by the federal government.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was Tennessee Congresswoman Diana Harshbarger earlier today as a House committee continued working through the details of the one big, beautiful bill. Welcome to this May 14th edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. House Speaker Mike Johnson says the process remains on track.
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back in January. I said that we would try to do this as quickly as possible. We're still on target to hit that Memorial Day deadline, which people balked at when we first said it. The American people are counting on us to get this done and get it done quickly. And we are on target to do it.
SPEAKER 10 :
The speaker also weighed in on the recent altercation involving Democratic lawmakers at an ICE detention facility in New Jersey.
SPEAKER 07 :
Instead of condemning the action, of course, the Democrat leadership in the House sent out a statement of support. My friend Hakeem Jeffries said, quote, we will never bend the knee. Bend the knee to what, Hakeem? To ICE?
SPEAKER 10 :
Come on. We'll talk with Georgia Congressman Buddy Carter about that incident last Friday and a bit more. Also today, a significant free speech case is unfolding in Missouri. Alliance Defending Freedom appeared in federal court challenging a Kansas City policy that prohibits counselors from counseling children experiencing gender confusion. We'll get the details from Hal Frampton, senior counsel with ADF. And speaking of gender policy, some in Congress want you, the taxpayers, to fund transgender procedures that, according to a growing body of research, are not only ineffective but often harmful. We'll hear from Mark Mitchell, vice president of operations and chief pollster at Rasmussen Reports, about where the American people really stand on this issue. And finally, President Trump continues his Middle East trip today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Does this trip sideline Israel at all? No, not at all. No, this is good for Israel. Having a relationship like I have with these countries, the Middle Eastern countries, essentially all of them, I think it's very good for Israel.
SPEAKER 10 :
That was President Trump aboard Air Force One earlier today en route to Qatar. We're going to check in later with CBN's Middle East Bureau Chief Chris Mitchell, who is in Jerusalem. And so we'll get a perspective on how those in Israel are viewing this Middle East trip by President Trump. The website TonyPerkins.com. Better yet, download the Stand Firm app. Have you got the Stand Firm app? If not, you can get it at the App Store or text APP to 67742, and I'll send you a link. On the Stand Firm app, not only can you watch Washington Watch no matter where you go, you'll have access to FRC's biblical commentary and news, the Washington Stand, as well as my daily devotional, Stand on the Word. All that can be found on the Stand Firm app. Well, as the debate over the one big, beautiful budget reconciliation bill continues, some focus has shifted to cutting taxpayer-funded abortion and so-called gender transition surgeries on minors. The House Energy and Commerce Committee's portion of the bill includes language that would put the family first agenda into law. But how is this being received and what are Republicans doing to pass it? And is it going to be strong enough? Here to discuss this, Congressman Buddy Carter, who is on the House Energy and Commerce Committee as well as the House Budget Committee. He represents the 1st Congressional District of Georgia. Congressman Carter, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you, Tony. Always a pleasure to be with you, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know that votes are happening on the House floor, so you stepped off the House floor to give us a call. You were in the Energy and Commerce Committee meeting today as your portion of the reconciliation bill is being marked up. What are we looking at right now as it pertains to government taxpayers, I should say, taxpayers subsidizing big abortion operations like Planned Parenthood and this issue of gender transition issues? surgeries and hormone treatments?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, first of all, Tony, it is, what, 510 right now? We just finished at 430. 26 and a half hours that we worked on this straight through. We were in all night last night. And I am very proud of the product that we put out and the Energy and Commerce Committee. It is really good. What we did was we improved one of the most important programs in our government, and that is Medicaid, which is for the Least vulnerable, the most vulnerable, the most vulnerable patients in our society. And we improved it. We banned gender transition funding in Medicaid. It's not going to happen. Taxpayer dollars shouldn't be used to fund child abuse. And gender transition is child abuse. And we have always been for youth. You know, Democrats, they're for they, them. Republicans, we are for you. And we're not going to allow this to happen. I was very proud we had it in there. We also abandoned abortion funding and Medicaid. Taxpayers' dollars shouldn't be going to organizations that provide abortion services. It's as easy as that. I mean, and we did that in this bill. Now we're going to be sending it to the Budget Committee, which I also serve on. So I'll get a second shot at it. And we're going to put it all together in the Budget Committee, take all the committees that have done their work, and we're going to put it together in the budget resolution.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, you've also, through the reconciliation, added some, you know, beyond eliminating the bad stuff that attacks the family, we're seeing some improvements being made in policy that actually supports the family.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely, there are improvements that are going to support the family. And certainly, you know, these are examples of how we can improve the family, but there are other examples as well. We put a number of things in this bill. Again, you know, what we're trying to do, we have community involvement. The Democrats, they want to call it work requirements. It's not work requirements. It's community involvement. We want to help people step up and get off of Medicaid and get on to another insurance. And that's important because if we've got an able-bodied adult that is just not doing anything except getting Medicaid, not working, not volunteering, not doing anything, that's not what Medicaid is for. And we're trying to transition those people. So we've got the community involvement in there. You can work up to 20 hours a week, 20 hours a week, and it can be volunteer work. Or you can get a job working 20 hours a week. But that's going to be a requirement now. That's going to be a requirement for you to be on the Medicaid program if you're able-bodied. Now, if you've got children or you're taking care of a parent, Our child, no. No, you will be exempt from it. There are exemptions in there. But if you're able-bodied.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, this sounds like one of those common-sense policies. I mean, nobody should be just sitting there on the couch having everything taken care of because they don't want to go out and work. Let me ask you this question. Let's go back to the funding of organizations like Planned Parenthood. It's not just Planned Parenthood, but it's other organizations that would fund abortion. There were some Republicans last week who said they couldn't support the reconciliation bill if that prohibition against taxpayer dollars going to abortion organizations was in there. Are we going to be able to get the Republicans on board with this?
SPEAKER 14 :
I certainly hope so. And, you know, the speaker and leadership warned us early on, don't throw any red lines. Don't say in the media, I can't vote for it if it's got this in it. You know, don't paint yourself into a corner. There are things in this reconciliation package that I'm not necessarily going to like and that I would like to change. But you have to look at it in its totality, and you have to understand just how important it is. How important it is we get this done. If we don't get it done, 88% of Americans will be looking at the highest tax increase, the largest tax increase they've ever had. We've got to get this done. And I'm very proud of the work, as I said earlier, that we've done in the Energy and Commerce Committee. We've put out a great product.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I think people need to understand that we're talking about 220 Republicans, and they come from a variety of districts, backgrounds, and ideological makeups. And so reaching consensus is a part of the legislative process. You know, it's often where the majority is when you've got, you know, 205 of the 220 that are all lined up saying, you know, this is something we've worked on for decades to defund Planned Parenthood. Then the other 15 ought to come along for the good of not just the party, but for the country, because this is something that taxpayers have said over and over again. Planned Parenthood should not be getting $800 million a year in taxpayer money to take the lives of 400,000 babies.
SPEAKER 14 :
They should not be getting one red cent a year. They should not be getting anything. But to your point, Tony, and it is a good point, ours is a big tent. You know, it's a very diverse conference. And, yes, we've got some people in swing districts and swing seats that – You know, they've got some strong feelings. And then we've got some other people in deep red seats, and they've got strong feelings. And, you know, at the end of the day, we're all on the same team. We're all trying to achieve the same thing, and we need to understand that. We need to come together.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and just like you said, there's going to be some things in this bill that you do not particularly care for, but you recognize that it is a consensus-building process. And having served in the legislative body, I understand how that works. I want to shift gears, Congressman Carter. Three Democrat representatives, members of Congress from New Jersey, recently had a run-in with the authorities near an ICE detention facility in New Jersey. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem says these members of Congress committed felonies on the premises. What's your take on this?
SPEAKER 14 :
I think they have lost their mind. The radical left has lost their mind. They'd rather... raid an ICE facility and defend criminal, illegal immigrants and represent their own constituents? Are you kidding me? And, yes, Kristi Noem is exactly right. They have created, they have. Representative Watson Coleman, Menendez, and McIver, they should be taken, their committee assignments should be taken away. Now, for the last 26 and a half hours, I've been with Representative Menendez, and nice fellow, like him fine, but, hey, he shouldn't be on Energy and Commerce with us. He should be removed from that. I'm on that committee for serious work. These clowns, unbelievable that they've done this. And, yes, there should be repercussions on this. We teach our children that actions have consequences, and they need to understand that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Congressman, I know you need to go vote. You've got about a minute left to go cast this vote. So I appreciate you joining us there from the cloakroom, and always great to talk with you, Congressman Carter. Thank you so much. That was Congressman Buddy Carter of Georgia. I want to pull in very quickly, Kena Gonzalez, who is our director of government affairs, just with some action items on this to kind of wrap up as we go into this break. Kena, thanks for joining us. All right. You heard Congressman Carter. What are the action items folks need to take?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, this bill is far from being finalized. This is just the first step of several that it needs to clear in the next few weeks. And right now, people can go to frcaction.org slash defund or tonyperkins.com and find the link to weigh in with Congress and make sure that these provisions that we just talked about, defunding big abortion, defunding gender transition procedures across the board, not just on minors, are strengthened and retained in the bill as it heads through the House and over to the Senate.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, folks, you could do that. You can also text Congress to 67742. That's Congress to 67742, and I'll send you a link. Kena, thanks so much for jumping in here and giving us those action items.
SPEAKER 17 :
Really grateful for people who take action.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Kena could use the backup. He's up on the Hill every day working with members and the staff on these issues. So help him out. Text Congress to six, seven, seven, four, two. We're going to talk more later about the whole gender funding of this gender transition and where the American people stand on it. All right. Don't go away. We're coming back with more Washington Watch on the other side of this break.
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SPEAKER 24 :
Great to be here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, let's jump right into this. How did the oral arguments go today?
SPEAKER 24 :
They went well. They were very lengthy. The court was very engaged, asked very good questions of both sides, and we are hopeful that right and truth will prevail and that the counselor's freedom to counsel people in accordance with their conscience will be upheld.
SPEAKER 10 :
So this is basically the city putting in a gag rule saying that there's certain things you can't say. If someone comes to you with gender dysphoria, you can't counsel them that there's other options.
SPEAKER 24 :
That's exactly right. It's censorship, pure and simple. It is the government putting its thumb on the scale and saying that in a private counseling conversation between a counselor and a willing client looking to find a way through their gender confusion, the counselor cannot say, well, there are actually ways that you can develop comfort with your natal sex, as we know the overwhelming majority of children with these concerns will do if they're given the chance to. Government putting its thumb on the scale and saying, you can't say that.
SPEAKER 10 :
But Hal, this is... It's absurd because we're talking about counseling. We're talking about having conversations. We're talking about just helping people go back to the source of possibly conflict because we know from most cases there's some point of crisis, conflict that they could possibly work through. In most cases they do, but rather they would have them go down a path of taking hormones or surgeries that are irreversible.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yes, and that's what's so disturbing about it is that we know that there are essentially two paths here. There's path one where a counselor helps a child through their confusion, has open and honest conversations with them, and the child develops comfort with their natal sex. That's one path. The second path and the one that Kansas City is essentially forcing counselors to send kids down is the path towards medicalized transition and dangerous drugs and surgeries that we know in the end do not actually make people happier and carry inordinate risks.
SPEAKER 10 :
And most times irreversible.
SPEAKER 24 :
Absolutely. Most of those interventions are indeed irreversible. They can lead to a person being a patient for life, becoming sterile, and having a lifetime of regret.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so how are people harmed by having conversations about things in the past that may have created this dissidence within them about their sexual identity?
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, they're not. And that's one of the falsehoods that we have to deal with in these cases is the lie that if you just have a conversation about this, this will somehow harm the child or they'll do something to themselves or something. And the research simply doesn't bear that out. There's no evidence that having... conversations is remotely harmful and in fact the emerging evidence is that it's helpful and that it helps children ultimately understand themselves better and understand who they are and who God made them to be.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Hal, I know it's always hard to read the courts, but oftentimes based upon how the justices or the judges engage in the conversations and the questions they ask, you know, you try to predict which way they might be leaning. What kind of conversation took place? What were the questions that were being asked in the courtroom today?
SPEAKER 24 :
There were a lot of probing questions, some about the issue that you and I just talked about, whether there really is evidence that these kinds of conversations harm anyone. And we pointed out that that evidence doesn't exist. And we've submitted a great deal of research on that point. So we never want to try and predict an outcome because you never know. But we were encouraged with the level of engagement and the fact that the court seemed to be working through all of these issues carefully.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, how I mentioned this earlier, I would be nice to say that this is a one-off, that what's happening there in Kansas City is unique, but it's not. We see this happening in jurisdictions across the country.
SPEAKER 24 :
We do. One of the things that we really take hope from is that the Supreme Court is going to deal with this very issue in the fall in another case that we are involved with, the Childs case out of Colorado, where the state of Colorado has a law very similar to Kansas City's ordinance there. And we're very encouraged that the Supreme Court granted cert, agreed to take that case, and we'll hear all of these arguments and hopefully
SPEAKER 10 :
uh hand down a decision affirming that yes indeed counselors have a first amendment right to have these conversations with with struggling kids it's it's amazing this is where we have come to but this is this is really extension of the council culture just wanting to silence that which they cannot confront with truth and facts so they just want to silence it and this is such a just such a revealing example of that. And that's why we have to advocate for the truth and why I'm so grateful for Alliance Defending Freedom and that you're out there fighting for the freedom of speech and religion all across this nation and literally around the world. So Hal, thanks so much for taking time to join us today.
SPEAKER 24 :
Thank you, Tony. I really appreciate it.
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And folks, be praying about this. As Hal mentioned, not only do we have these cases around the country, but we have the Supreme Court taking on this issue. And we need to pray. Never... underestimate the power of prayer. In fact, as Christians, as followers of Christ, we've been admitted to the bar of heaven. Okay. Just as we have attorneys that go into court and argue these cases, we have the ability to boldly approach the throne of grace and appeal to the King of Kings, to the one who literally the court of heaven is what moves us. the government of man. And so pray, pray for these things. All right, don't go away. We're back with more Washington Watch after this.
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At Family Research Council, we believe religious freedom is a fundamental human right that all governments must protect. That's why FRC President Tony Perkins went to Capitol Hill to testify on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. Islamist terror groups target Christians and other religious minorities in Nigeria with brutal violence. Representative Chris Smith, who chaired the hearing, said 55,000 people have been killed and 21,000 abducted in the last five years alone. The congressman also stressed that 89% of Christians in the world who are martyred are from Nigeria.
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Yet the government of Nigeria has failed to make progress against religiously motivated persecution of Christians despite religious freedom being enshrined as an essential human right in their constitution.
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Tony Perkins called for the United States to send an unmistakable message.
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This is systematic religious violence. Nigeria must be redesignated a country of particular concern. The Biden administration's removal of this designation was a reckless mistake that emboldened the very terrorists who are slaughtering Christians.
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Redesignating Nigeria will enable the U.S. government to pressure Nigerian leaders to protect vulnerable Christians.
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These are not just numbers. These are fathers, their mothers, their children, their families.
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Bishop Wilfred Anagabe risked his life to speak out, sharing firsthand accounts of the danger faced in his church district in central Nigeria.
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We live in fear because at any point it can be our turn to be killed, but to remain silent is to die twice. So I have chosen to speak.
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FRC is calling on President Trump to act now to promote religious freedom around the globe and speak up on behalf of Christians in Nigeria.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for tuning in. As congressional Republicans hammer out the bills to fund the federal government, they have a chance to end taxpayer funding of abortion providers and so-called gender transition procedures. This is happening as we speak. So I want to encourage you to send a message to your member of Congress and your senators. Text the word Congress to 67742. That's Congress to 67742. And I'll send you a link so that you can communicate with them. And one of the things that's happening right now, and this really shouldn't be a debate, quite frankly, and that is whether taxpayer dollars should fund transgender surgeries and hormone treatments, that it's in the reconciliation bill. Now, they've cut off funding for minors, but there's still money in there that would fund these experimental drugs and surgeries. I mean, this should be a non-issue for Republicans. Why? Well... Why allocate scarce federal resources to procedures that, according to a growing number of studies, are often ineffective and in many cases harmful? And second, while public opinion shouldn't be the final determinant, Recent polling shows that a majority of Americans oppose using taxpayer money to fund gender transition interventions. Here to unpack the latest data is Mark Mitchell, vice president of operations and chief pollster at Rasmussen Reports. Mark, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 25 :
Great to be here. And what a topic. The Republicans in Congress, they need to get a lot more brave on things. I 100 percent believe. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Mark, wasn't this a major issue in the last election?
SPEAKER 25 :
Absolutely. In fact, we were polling on it in the fall. One of the things that Kamala Harris was supporting was taxpayer funding for transgender medical treatments and voters overwhelmingly opposed it. I'm looking at numbers. Sixty four percent oppose. Fifty two percent strongly. Only 28 percent are in favor. Only 12 percent are strongly in favor. And none of the Republicans want it. 84% oppose this thing, 75% strongly. But here's the thing. I've talked to some of these offices down in D.C. The Republicans, I don't even think, believe in polling because nobody's coming to me and asking for these crosstabs. And I've been doing these issues for years. And these polls are not getting done by anybody, not any of the 501c3s. They're losing on issues like abortion. They're losing on issues like, like, why don't we have E-Verify? It's overwhelmingly popular. They should just pass the law.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is another example. All right, let me go back. Let me get you to clarify this. You said they're losing on issues like abortion. In what way?
SPEAKER 25 :
Well, for instance, you have Republicans undercutting each other because they're not anti-abortion enough, and why don't you support 100 percent? But people have to understand the realities and where the Overton window is. And if you wanted to win on a topic like abortion or a topic like transgender stuff, you would pick the no-brainers that everybody supports— And everybody opposes late-term abortion. That's a winner. Like, go after that. And everybody opposes transing the kids, going after the kids, having taxpayer funding. Like, these are obvious because it's a little bit more mixed. If you just ask somebody, do you support transsexualism, you'll get a lot more muted results. But they're begging for Republicans to take action on this stuff.
SPEAKER 10 :
So when it comes to I agree with you, where you find is your strongest point and you build from there. And when you look at taxpayer funding of these initiatives, whether it's abortion, like through Planned Parenthood or it's the transgender experimental treatments, that's where I think you find your strongest point. But, you know, I mean, you're doing the polling. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 25 :
Absolutely. That's how you do it, because these are no-brainers. And listen, Donald Trump won on a whole lot of no-brainers. Border invasions, super unpopular, right? Transing the kids, super unpopular. Overspending in the government. But the problem comes back to Donald Trump has really great favorability numbers right now. The right direction polling for our country is off the charts better than it's been in 20 years. But Congress is getting rated poorly, especially by Republicans. And that is a really bad formula for— For the midterms, only 16 percent of Republicans rate Congress excellent right now. And do you agree or disagree with his statement? Republicans in Congress are not delivering on the mandate given to them by the American people. And 60 percent of Republicans agree with that statement, 25 percent strongly. Only 13 percent strongly disagree. These numbers are going to get worse. They haven't really been in session. They haven't really passed legislation. They're not going after the obvious stuff. Why haven't we gotten these things like the SAVE Act? Why haven't we put things like E-Verify into place? Why haven't they codified any of his anti-LGBT executive orders in the law? Let's up the pace.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and that's why reconciliation is so important, because so much of that is rolled into this reconciliation. But what you have... The outliers that are kind of dragging this process with just a few votes to to spare are those in blue states and these what they might call swing districts that are afraid. But you're saying when you look at Republican voters who would be voting in these primaries, they're amped on these things.
SPEAKER 25 :
Well, especially blue states. Listen, I would stick to Donald Trump's platform because it's overwhelmingly more popular than he is. All of the parts of the MAGA agenda are essentially 60, 65 percent issue. And Donald Trump's only got a 52 percent favorability rating. I talk to candidates in the blue states and they say, man, the establishment Republicans just want to run squishy moderates. And I've done the polling. If you ask People who vote in Republican primaries in these states, would you rather have an America first Trump Republican or a traditional Republican? People say Trump Republican overwhelmingly and just culturally in almost all of these states. I've done polling in places like California. Guess what? California's Californians are overwhelmingly against late term abortion, too. The problem is their leaders just frame it in a way that. They get the support.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I would think in these blue states, they see the results of bad policy. And so they're eager to embrace, as you said, America first policies, not necessarily, you know, Donald Trump's polling is not the same as his policies. It's the American first policy agenda that drives that support. Mark, we're out of time. I want to thank you for joining us. Always great to talk with you. And we'll continue to track these issues because I think they're only going to get stronger. Yeah, thanks for bringing me here, Tony. Appreciate it. All right, Mark Mitchell with Rasmussen Reports. These are no-brainer issues. They're common-sense issues, and I think that's why people are embracing them. All right, don't go away. We're back with more after this.
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This is Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Glad to have you with us. All right, let me again give out the text... of the word Congress to 67742. That's Congress to 67742. So you can weigh in on this reconciliation bill, encouraging Congress not to fund organizations like Planned Parenthood and not to fund these transgender procedures. It's crazy. Republicans should not be supporting that. So text the word Congress to 67742. I'll send you a link, which will then help you connect directly with your member of Congress. Our word for today comes from the prophet Haggai. Thus says the Lord of hosts, these people say the time has not yet come to rebuild the house of the Lord. Is it a time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies in ruins? Misplaced priorities. The people who had returned from exile to rebuild God's temple had become preoccupied with their own comfort and prosperity. They abandoned the very mission that they had willingly embraced when they left Babylon. But their misplaced focus came at a cost. Look at verse 5. Now, therefore, thus says the Lord of hosts, consider your ways. You have sown much and harvested little. You earn wages to put them in a bag with holes. Now, here's a truth found throughout Scripture. Whatever God calls us to, Satan will try to pull us away from. If we don't recognize and resist that tactic, we risk falling into the same trap the exiles did. Busy lives, empty results. Let's keep God's priorities first and stay faithful to the mission He's given us. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. President Donald Trump's trip through the Middle East continues. Following his speech in Riyadh yesterday, he met with Ahmad Asharah, the interim president of Syria. According to reports, President Trump urged the Syrian leaders to join the Abraham Accords as a step toward normalizing relations with Israel. And he called on him to reject support for terrorism from neighboring regimes. Meanwhile, our friends in Israel are closely monitoring these developments, especially as missile attacks from Yemen continued to escalate. Joining me now with the latest on these unfolding events is Chris Mitchell. He joins us from Jerusalem. He is the Middle East Bureau chief for CBN News. Chris, welcome back to Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great to be with you again, Tony. And speaking of those missile attacks, I would say there was one this morning at 7.30, one last night about 6.30. There were sirens here in Jerusalem, so it's a very real thing for us here in the city.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now, I want to point that out, that, you know, When we've seen these attacks from Gaza, and I was talking to a member of the Knesset, there were a couple of rockets that were fired from Gaza. But these are missiles, much different, coming from Yemen. And usually Jerusalem has not been affected by many of these attacks, but that's changed with these attacks coming from the Houthis.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Last night, like I said, there was a ballistic missile and another one early this morning. Thankfully, they were both intercepted. But what that does is you have a couple of million people that are running the bomb shelters. You know, all of us in the office today, we're talking about where you were when the siren went off. Our production manager has to take his three little children into the staircase. So it's a very real threat here. Thankfully, most of them are intercepted. But but Some have come through, like a couple of weeks ago at Ben-Gurion Airport.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're right. That was like a day or so after I was there at the airport that struck. And that's actually affected travel. Many airlines have, in fact, United, which I was flying on, has suspended their flights into Israel. So this has an impact upon Israel.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very much so. And almost every day, Tony, the airlines come out with a new time where they're going to delay their flights. And it just keeps going on and on. You know, Delta, I think, is back into June right now. But so it does have a big impact on tourism here for sure.
SPEAKER 10 :
So let me just start with that point. I want to get to the Syrian leader and the meeting that President Trump had with him. But prior to him going to the Middle East, the president or the Trump administration negotiating with the Houthis to end the attacks on U.S. shipping. But Israel was left out of that agreement. And we're seeing what appears to me to be an escalation of these attacks from Yemen.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they've decided Yemen certainly did not agree that it would stop attacks on Israel, and it wasn't part of the agreement with the United States. There have been an increase in the last several weeks. I think about 31 in the last couple of weeks. Actually, since the beginning of the—or when the ceasefire ended, the Houthis decided to continue their ballistic attacks against Israel. So they haven't stopped, and it wasn't part of the agreement with the United States.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how does Israel view that? I mean, are they a little concerned that America kind of looked after its own interests without looking out for the interests of our closest ally in the region?
SPEAKER 08 :
It is disconcerting to people here in Israel, and it's not the first time. It's not the only issue. I think in the last few weeks, the UT agreement that did not include Israel, the Iranian nuclear deal that Israel's not a part of, this negotiations, this idea of Saudi Arabia normalization, seemingly something that Israel's not a part of. But yeah, it's been disconcerting, I think, and very troubling for people here in Israel. in these particular cases.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, let's talk about the last 36, 48 hours as the president's been in the region meeting in Saudi Arabia, as I mentioned earlier, meeting with the new interim Syrian leader, a meeting in which even the Turkish president, Erdogan, was a part of. And I think the president acknowledged that he took this meeting with the Syrian leader, a former member of ISIS, al-Qaeda, at the urging of Erdogan. That is—when you look at that region, Erdogan and Turkey, they have a clear objective to reestablish the Ottoman Empire, the caliphate. That is seen as a threat to Israel, is it not?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it is. I mean, Erdogan has a longstanding dream of reestablishing the caliphate that had been destroyed after World War I, and it lasted for 400 years. So that has been his dream. He said that in his rhetoric. He actually spoke to the Turkish parliament today, thanking President Trump for his agreement to meet with Shira. And he was part of the conversation yesterday with Mohammed bin Salman, President Trump, and the leader, the new leader of Syria right now, Shira. What troubles people here, Tony, I think, is his background. He was a member of al-Qaeda. He has been part of what's called HTS. That was the group that took over from the Assad regime, and he has since disbanded it. Many people wonder his new makeover. He's no longer dressed in fatigues, but he's dressed in a suit, and he's appealing to Western countries. He visited French President Macron just a few days ago. The concern is that he will establish another Islamic regime. I just talked to a man named Dr. Kamal Sido. He's a human rights activist. He's Kurdish. He was born in Syria, but he lives now in Germany. He just spent a lot of time in Syria right now talking to a lot of minorities, including Druze and Kurds, Christians, and what they were telling him Is there concern this might be an Islamic regime, a concern that these minorities would be at risk, particularly Christians would be at risk, and that there would be an attempt to either persecute or pressure people to convert to Islam? And so that is the balance that right now people are wondering. Will Shara become more Western, not only in his dress but in his behavior? And the other thing is that what Dr. Sito was telling me, that really Turkey has a great influence there in the government and that many of the members of the government, right, are Turkish. He was warned when he was in Damascus to be careful what he said on the phone because of the... the Turkish police and Secret Service. So it's troubling and concerning. And certainly that's what Israel, as soon as the Assad regime fell and they saw what was being taken over, they destroyed much of the Assad military, not wanting it to fall into the hands of this new regime.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, as you interact with those there in Israel, kind of assessing the last 36 hours as the president, President Trump, has been in the region, is there—I mean, is there a shifting of power or a regaining of standing by some of these nations that the president has been interacting with?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's the assessment of some is that Israel is sort of becoming diminished in a sense. Many of these other powers like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, where he is today, UAE, will he be going in probably just a few hours, gaining influence and prestige with the United States. while Israel is trying to finish its war with Hamas in Gaza. Right now they're on the cusp of perhaps a large offensive and operation that will finally bring an end to the war, defeat Hamas, and hopefully bring back all the hostages. So it does seem like there has been a bit of a shift here in the region because of what's going on. Thankfully, people are saying, They were concerned that there would be a sense of establishing a Palestinian state there in Riyadh. That didn't happen. But certainly there's a feeling of a shift going on right now here in the region.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, my sources there in Israel have told me that the president assured the prime minister that there would not be the proposal of a of a Palestinian state on this trip, that he that was kind of a red line. The president has in all of his conversations, Saudi Arabia with Syria, encouraged and used his influence to get these members to join, these other countries to join the Abraham Accords and normalize relationships with Israel. That has to be somewhat reassuring to those there in Israel.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, for sure. And Saudi Arabia would change the whole region for sure. Israeli President Isaac Herzog said nothing better would he have than he could shake the hands of Mohammed bin Salman. You know, if there were The Abraham Accords joined by Syria, that would be a game changer as well. Right now, I would say there's a strategic concern by Israel, and they want to be cautious about what's happened and maybe cautiously optimistic. But that would be a game changer if the... if all these nations, as President Trump is encouraging them, to join the Abraham Accords. And I would say, as well, there were five criteria that the president set forth, or the White House did, of what they want to hear from Syria. And that would include expelling most of their or all of their foreign terrorists and changing their attitude toward terror and coming against terrorism in the region.
SPEAKER 10 :
Chris Mitchell, let me ask you about Iran, because that also has been a topic President Trump has brought up repeatedly as he's been asked about it. He's made very clear that Iran has to give up their nuclear plan. But the secretary of energy, Chris Wright, told CBS News that he anticipates a deal with Iran by the end of the year. is there that much time or does something have to happen sooner?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, a lot of people think there may not be that much time for a couple of reasons. First of all, they believe Iran, despite the talks, is pursuing enriching uranium up to nearly military grade uranium. That would be enough to make the amount of uranium they have would enough to make several nuclear weapons. That's one thing. The other thing is that right now, currently, Iran is vulnerable to any military attack because of what happened last year with many of their air defenses being destroyed by Israel, not only in Iran, but also in Syria. So there does seem to be a window of opportunity right now. I'm not sure it's going to last till the end of the year. And a lot of people are wary of Iran because they're master negotiators, and they're excellent at dragging out these negotiations while they continue their nuclear program. In many ways, that's what Iran is so good at, and that's why the concern is here, is that the window of opportunity may not last that long.
SPEAKER 10 :
But that leaves Israel somewhat in a bind with a ticking clock, but yet at the same time, they can't move without at least a green light or a blessing from the United States. I don't want to get crossways openly with the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's why it's such an awkward position for them right now. They're certainly looking at the negotiations now, and there have been four meetings, and yet they don't want to go against and preempt those negotiations. Well, President Trump really does want to reach a deal. But what would the deal mean? Would it mean reducing their amount of enriched uranium? Or would it mean what some people say is an elimination, a destruction of the entire nuclear infrastructure? I understand today there was a letter written by senators and congressmen that that would be what... what they want to see. They want to see like a destruction of their whole nuclear program. But it seems like these negotiations are talking about things that would be less than that. And certainly Israel is wanting, and Prime Minister Netanyahu said, they want what's called the Libyan model back in 2003 or 2004, where Libya's nuclear program was completely destroyed. And that would be the best thing that Israel would prefer.
SPEAKER 10 :
Final question for you, Chris Mitchell. We got about 30 seconds left. I know a lot of folks there in Jerusalem, many Christians are there in Jerusalem and in Israel just praying, spiritually discerning what is going on. How should Christians back here in the United States and elsewhere be praying right now, given what is unfolding in the Middle East?
SPEAKER 08 :
Tony, I would say pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Pray that God would continue to protect his people here in this country. Pray that there would be peace in the region like President Trump is advocating for. Pray for great wisdom for Prime Minister Netanyahu, the Israeli government, and especially for President Trump as he navigates the Middle East. Give him wisdom for what he needs to do or not do. Pray also for our good friend Israel. Mike Huckabee, new ambassador here to Israel, for wisdom for him. And I think that would be that God's purposes would be fulfilled here in the region and not the plans of man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. That's what we want to pray, pray for God's plans and purposes to be accomplished through his people. Chris Mitchell, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us. Great to be with you, Tony. And folks, I want to encourage you to do just that, to pray. All right, we're out of time for today. Thanks for joining us. Until next time, keep praying.
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In this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast the guys talk about President Trump's Middle East tour and the growing controversy over accepting a $400-million dollar plane from Qatar. They also discuss the controversy over Trump and GOP Bill "cutting" $800-billion from Medicaid--it's really making work requirements for able-bodied younger people. What about Trump's Executive Order to lower drug costs--how do we lower drug prices? The guys also take a look at HHS-RFK, Jr. plan to find the cause of autism--childhood vaccines? Food Additives? 5G or RF stuff? And what about HHS researching the harm caused from transgender child surgery? The guys also talk about Pete Rose's reinstatement in baseball and the possibility of Hall of Fame induction.
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Another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. Myself, Bob Duco out of Detroit. John Rush, Rush Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Prodigal's son, Boron, not with us. So we're hoping to bring him back into the fold next week. John, how are you doing?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm great, sir. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, doing lovely. Thank you. Good to be back from vacation, too. It's always fun to get off. I was down in Hilton Head Island with some friends sitting on the ocean beach. And you know something, John? Not giving even a fraction of a thought to you and Neil. Hope you guys have fun this week.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's fine. That's the way it should be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell me about it. Well, I'll tell you what, this week we're going to talk about a few different things, really. Number one, Donald Trump's Middle East tour, his Arab nations tour and what's happening with that. A little bit later on in the podcast, a little bit about Pete Rose being reinstated posthumously to eligibility for the... Baseball Hall of Fame. Should he have received a lifetime ban all the way to the point of his death? We'll talk about that. And also some health care stuff, some things that the Trump administration is doing regarding health care. So we got a lot to get to. First, though, the Middle East peace tour that Trump is on. He was in Saudi Arabia earlier this week and signed a really an historic six hundred billion dollar agreement. investments plan for the United States. So he's over there getting Saudi Arabia to invest a lot of money into the U.S. And also it's interesting seeing when Trump was getting ready to address the Saudi people, he's standing up there on the stage. And of course, there's a big flag on half the stage, a big lighted flag of Saudi Arabia. But the other half the stage was a massive United States flag. And Trump just stood up there while they played God Bless the USA from Lee Greenwood. And it was interesting because even when he's done, the Saudis are applauding and such. And then he gets up there and he says point blank, you know what, Saudi Arabia needs to be part of the Abraham Accords, you know, striking a peace deal with Israel as well. But he was also diplomatic enough to say, but you know what, you'll do it in your own time. So he's showing the diplomacy and the deference to them so it doesn't look like he's trying to control them, but at the same time nudging them. John, I'd love to get your take on, first of all, the Saudi Arabian trip. I thought this was Trump really showing good, solid diplomacy on behalf of the United States. And for everybody who says that the man is just a blustering fool who doesn't know how to be diplomatic, I don't see how anybody can make that claim after watching how he's handling this Middle East tour so far.
SPEAKER 01 :
Trump understands how to get deals done and how to make money when it's all said and done. That's the one thing that, you know, by the way, he keeps getting criticized by the left, and it's like, you knuckleheads, you just don't understand how things work. Well, and again, Bob, we've talked about this in the past. That's why I struggle with Christians that are quote-unquote on the left. It's like everything that the left stands for is total Marxism. They want to tear the country down. They don't care if we're economically viable. They don't care about these sorts of deals that we're talking about. In fact, they would just as soon... not see these things happen. At the end of the day, they don't want our country thriving any way, shape, or form. So anytime things like this happen where he's over there and he's being diplomatic and things are rolling along and he's actually getting deals done, all you hear from the left is, well, yeah, he's only over there because it benefits his family businesses.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's so ridiculous. Am I right? Yes. You're absolutely right. And, you know, if you think about this financially, for all the people on the left that are screaming that Donald Trump is just enriching himself as president, Donald Trump, him being president, especially a conservative president, pro-life, pro-evangelical Christian president. This is costing him multiple billions of dollars because Trump properties all around the world, especially here in the United States, had an equal amount of Republican versus Democrat customer base. Okay, he did. And now he's pretty much... you know, turned off the liberal left-wing intolerant half of America that says, no, we're not going to spend any money on anything with Trump's name on it. So this is actually costing him money, but, you know, whatever. That's right. But you know something else, John, that's important here? The point that he said to the Saudis about, you know what, you need to be part of these Abraham Accords, and you'll do it in your time, but this would really benefit your country, our country, the Middle East, this idea of Middle East peace. I've said this on the podcast before, John, but I want to get your take on this because it's something that Donald Trump does not get nearly enough credit for. Every single president since 1948, when Israel became a nation again, every single president has tried to put the feather in their cap of at least one Middle East peace deal. Some Arab Muslim nation signing a peace agreement deal with Israel. Almost every president has come up empty. The only two presidents who have ever been able to make that happen. Jimmy Carter did it once with Egypt, but in all fairness, that was mostly Anwar Sadat back then. But still, he goes in a history book, says he got one Middle East peace deal. OK, fine. The other one was Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did get Jordan. All right. And Jordan is a really small country and they're moderate and they're friends with the U.S. anyway. And so it's a but still he got one. He deserves to be in the history books for that. Ronald Reagan in eight years could not get one. George W. Bush in eight years could not get one. Barack Obama in eight years could not get one. I mean, no president's been able to get one except those two. Donald Trump in his first four years got four. He got four Middle East peace deals, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan. And now he's working on Saudi Arabia and maybe two or three more. I got to tell you, John, if this were anybody other than Donald Trump, everybody would be it'd be like, let's start talking about Mount Rushmore now. Let's start talking about Nobel Peace Prizes and such, because it's Donald Trump. The mainstream press pretty much ignores it.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's exactly right. And he did a lot of these same things during his first term as president as well. Remember some of the things that he did back then? You know, you've just mentioned some of those. But for all of those that think that he's over there just benefiting his own businesses, no, that is not the case at all. He's over there trying to get peace. I mean, we've said it many, many times on this podcast, Bob. He's the only president that gets us out of wars, not into wars. Every other president, in my opinion, is more of a warmonger than they are anything else. And they'd rather start one than finish one. I mean, even even look what what Trump has done recently between, you know, Pakistan and India as far as, you know, getting them to settle down. I mean, the reality is he goes around and tries to get things settled down and handled. And here's why, by the way, for everybody that. that maybe doesn't understand this. There's that school of thought. It's an old school of thought, by the way. It comes out of World War II, where wars generate revenue and income for countries. It's not true anymore, Bob. It used to be that way. It used to be good for a country to have a war. It was an economic stimulator and so on. It's not the case anymore. And Donald Trump knows that. He knows that at the end of the day, wars are expensive. They're costly. They don't help your GDP at the end of the day. And when it's all said and done, you don't need them. You need peace. He understands that more than anybody else. And that's exactly what he goes around doing and gets no credit for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. And you bring up a very good point about Pakistan and India. I was talking about that on my show as well. Yeah, they were on the brink of a full-fledged war. I mean, this got to the point where they were launching missiles at each other's military bases. That's right. And Pakistan and India, people forget, they're both nuclear powers. They both have nuclear bombs. The last thing we want in the world right now are two nuclear nations going at war with each other. And by the way, big nations, India with over a billion people. Okay, so... This is really huge. And what happens? The Trump administration swoops in and in less than 24 hours negotiates, brokers and negotiates between the two of them a ceasefire and an agreement for peace talks. I mean, that is incredible. I'm telling you, anybody other than Trump, John, I'm telling you, this would be Nobel Peace Prize talk. With Trump, it's just a byline.
SPEAKER 01 :
It would still would be right now, Bob. And unfortunately, even the major networks, you know, there's a little blurb here or there, and that was about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. It's really sad. Now, I want to talk with you about his trip to, technically it's pronounced Qatar. Qatar. I call it either Qatar or Qatar. But he's in Qatar today, Wednesday, as we're recording this. But then there's the controversy surrounding the plane. Is he wrong to take the plane? We're going to talk about that coming up in just a minute. But first, John, we do want our listeners to support the sponsors, the advertisers to this podcast.
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SPEAKER 01 :
What's that old saying, keep your friends close and your enemies closer? Not saying Qatar is an enemy by any stretch of the imagination because they're not technically an enemy of the United States. They're not listed as such. I agree with you, Bob, on the way you describe them. But you have to wonder, is keeping them a little bit closer and keeping them in your back pocket? And, oh, by the way, there was a minute ago a post went out talking about how he just secured a deal where they're buying 160 airplanes from Boeing. So, in other words, he's over there doing business for the U.S.,
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right. And that ought to be considered a good thing. And you know what? Look, if we can get a nation like that, Qatar is a nation that really could go in either direction. They could get pulled more into the Islamic jihadi part of the Middle East, but they could also get pulled more into the moderate Saudi Arabia strike deals with the U.S. type.
SPEAKER 01 :
And by the way, Bob, the cash is what does that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know it is. And so here's a chance for Trump to steer the ship with the rudder, to steer the ship in the direction of peace, while at the same time getting them to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in the U.S. To me, this is the ultimate in dealmaking. It is. But that brings us to the plane. Of course, the Democrats and the media are acting like Trump is violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution because he's accepting gifts. How can he do such a thing? And you even have some Republicans going, oh, the optics of it looks bad. Don't do it. Why? For the life of me, I don't understand what the problem is.
SPEAKER 01 :
Saves us money. Why would we not?
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a personal gift.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's not a personal gift. It'll go to the DOD. It'll be a replacement. Keep in mind, part of this is coming up because of Boeing's, which I don't know what those knuckleheads are doing. They're late. Huge delay when it comes to the new Air Force One jets that were ordered, I believe, in 2018 by Donald Trump back during his first term. Reality is they're still not built today. I think I read today, Bob, I don't think they're scheduled to be built until 2028 or 2029, something like that. So still a ways down the road. So this is a stop gap, if you would. And people think for a second, well, why do we need, you know, new Air Force Ones? Bob, you and I both know that those planes don't last forever. They put on a gazillion miles on an annual basis. Look at all the places that all of the presidents go, all of the different things they have to do touring other countries. Trump, by the way, is one of the few presidents that probably has toured. I think I was looking up a moment ago. He tours more countries than any other president has as far as that goes as well. And it's not an apology tour that he's on, Bob. It's a deal-making tour. But the reality is those planes don't last forever. Yes, they have to be replaced. Boeing can't supply that right now. I don't want to say that we're caught between a rock and a hard spot, but when somebody's gifting you a $400 million plane that is a nice stopgap for what I'm talking about, why would you say no?
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And the important thing is here, because I know people hear the thing about the Constitution, presidents accepting gifts. The emoluments clause was specifically about presidents of the United States that were accepting personal gifts, enriching themselves, taking stuff and putting it in their own pockets to basically do quid pro quos with other nations on behalf of themselves personally. Everybody understands that would be wrong to do. Trump hasn't done anything even remotely close to that. As far as business dealings that his kids have made with Saudi Arabia and other nations, we've got to remember – and you know this, John, as a businessman, OK? Trump – He owns over 500 corporations in nations all around the world. His kids are running the company right now. And so what they do is, of course, they strike deals with countries all over the world. They've been doing this for decades. The difference is Trump doesn't have his hands on that. He's trusting his kids to do that. Every single deal making that he's doing, none of it has anything to do with benefiting Trump organization. It has to do with benefiting America and the American worker. And I think we ought to applaud that.
SPEAKER 01 :
I agree. And people forget, too, that when, and I don't want to say that his name is tarnished, you know, his family name is tarnished in America, but believe it or not, his name around the world in some cases brings in more business than it does in the U.S. So the reality, Bob, is the left has created some of what's happening worldwide when it comes to the Trump businesses because of what I just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. So far, I would say this has proven to be a very successful tour on his part. And I'm glad to see that he's doing this, and it's on behalf of America.
SPEAKER 01 :
Really quick, too, Bob, I want to add one other thing, too, because there's been some news, and I think the left is playing into this, like the left really cares about Israel. There's been some comments made by a lot of folks in the mass media talking about, well, isn't this kind of sliding Israel because he's not going over there first? He's actually going to Saudi Arabia first. I'm thinking to myself, how many dealings and things has he actually done? with Israel, not just now, but over the years. There's no way anybody in Israel is being slighted, but that's what the left does, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll tell you what, if Donald Trump is meeting with people that are typically enemies of Israel, and everybody knows that Donald Trump is a huge friend of Israel, this is a benefit to Israel. This cools tensions between Middle Eastern nations and Israel. Anybody who looks at this logically realizes it. Those that are saying, oh, he's a slap in the face to Israel here, and he's creating a rift between him and Netanyahu and whatever. No, he's not. He's easing tensions between Israel and other hostile Arab nations in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 01 :
These are the same people that will be on college campuses with their anti-Semitism as well, Bob. So keep in mind, those are the same people spewing that garbage out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even Bill Maher is saying, come on, Democrat Party, knock it off with the anti-Semitic rhetoric and such. Okay. Let's shift to some other things going on. John, I was talking about the media and how dishonest they are in their reporting. This is something that makes my eye twitch large. Medicaid. Medicaid. How many headlines are we seeing over and over again that Donald Trump and the Republicans and their spending bill are slashing Medicaid, you know, $800 billion cuts to Medicaid? When your average person sees those headlines, the first thing that they think is, wow, so some poor grandma that's low income is going to have her Medicaid payments reduced or whatever. No. All Trump is doing and the Republicans are doing here is saying this, and this is where it's important, John, for people to get the facts in this, all right? People that are senior citizens, people 65 and older that are on Medicaid right now, they are not having a dime of proposed reduction whatsoever. People that are disabled or handicapped or unable to work. There are no proposals for even a dime of reduction. Actually, the proposals involve increases to all of those people. All Trump is saying is if you're between the ages of 19 and 64 and you're able bodied, healthy and able to go get a job. But you refuse to. You prefer to sit at home and play video games on your mom's couch and you won't go get a job. Then no, you don't get to go to the hospital and then have the government, the taxpayers, pay your medical bills. OK, you've got to pay your own. So get off your butt. Go get a job. You can get health care through your employer. And you know what's even worse about this, John, that the press isn't telling people? Do you know that the GOP bill here? actually says, number one, if you're pregnant, you have an exemption. You don't even have to go get a job if you're pregnant. You can go ahead and enjoy Medicaid if you're low income. And number two, if you get off your butt and go get a job, it doesn't even have to be a full-time job. It only has to be a job where you work 80 hours a month, which is about 18 to 19 hours a week. That's a part-time job. So you go out and work part-time 18 hours a week, You can play video games on your mom's couch and still collect Medicaid. That's how generous, that's how liberal Trump and the Republicans are being in this case. Yet we're being told he's taking Medicare away from senior citizens. What a bunch of liars and the corrupt.
SPEAKER 01 :
You're right. No, it is. Absolutely, Bob. And the reality is... And it's just, A, we've got to cut costs. We're approaching $38 trillion now as a country in debt. We're not cutting enough quickly enough, and we've got to do these sorts of things. And I know it's a taboo to even talk about Social Security, but other areas where we've got to really start looking at things and making some adjustments. Otherwise, we're not going to make it. I mean, all these people that are whining about it. They may be whining today, but down the road when there's no money left and we're in really, really bad shape and there is hyperinflation because of the injection of cash that has to happen in the economy to make things work at that point in time, they'll be looking back thinking, oh, I guess those guys weren't so wrong after all, but It's painful, Bob, for some of these people. Yeah. You got to get off the couch and go get a job. Yeah. That means you got to go to work. All right. Sorry.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's supposed to be a good thing in this country. But I honestly, we made it the opposite, though.
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, we're becoming, you know, France and Spain to where, you know, Spain just wants to reduce their 40 hour a week to like 37 hours or some dumb thing along those lines. We're becoming a nation where it's. It's soft and it's no longer a you know, when I was a kid growing up, it was a matter of pride to have a good, solid job. In some cases, even, you know, two jobs have something to show for what your efforts were and so on. We've gone completely the opposite, which, by the way, Bob, that goes back to my comment earlier about the whole Marxist movement. That's it in a nutshell. You don't want any fruits of your labor when it's all said and done in Marxism.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. So, yeah, keep in mind, folks, whenever you see these headlines, these news stories, these Democrats and their rhetoric, OK, slashing Medicaid, cutting Medicaid. It's a good thing to find seven or eight hundred billion dollars in waste, a million rather, in waste. Because you know what that does? That makes Medicaid more solvent. It makes it stronger financially for the people who actually really do need it. If you're a 25-year-old lazy person playing video games on your mom's couch, you don't need Medicaid. You need to go get a job. And you don't need to have your neighbor paying your hospital bill if you have to go to the doctor and you are too lazy to go get a job and get insurance through an employer. So come on, give me a break. Anyway, we've got a lot more that we're going to be talking about in the second half of this podcast, some other health care issues in the administration, as well as Pete Rose. And posthumously, now he's allowed to go back into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame, or go into it, rather. So we'll talk about that as well. We also, John, we want people to support our sponsors like Preborn, like SunPower LED, which just does tremendous work with our photobiomodulation.
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That's right, and I'll get to the bottom of it. This is a subject, Bob, by the way, that I have... Oh, man, I've done countless interviews on my program over the years on this, and I like you. I don't think there's one individual thing that you can point to when it comes to autism. I think it's a combination of things. I think it's environmental as far as the differences in foods that kids are eating today versus what you and I grew up with, for example, a lot of the preservatives and things that are in it, fast food, some of those things, for example. There's a lot of things that kids are eating today that you and I didn't have access to. I mean, you and I probably had and we're fairly similar in age. We probably had anywhere from five to seven vaccines where if you give a kid today all of the vaccines, I think the number, Bob, is like 72. It's absolutely ridiculous what we're doing along those lines. And I get not everybody does that with their kids. But if you follow the entire structure of what they lay out, it's huge. And a lot of people do, by the way. They believe in that. So they do that. And. I just think, you know, between all the things that we're talking about, I'm not I'm not sold on the whole, you know, 5G and that end of things, because frankly, autism started to increase long before we even had, you know, some of the cell service and things that we've even got today along those lines. So I'm not one to go down that path. But I do think the environmental end of things, the food intake, the vaccines themselves that a lot of kids are getting. And then keep in mind, too, the way that even maybe mom is functioning prior to birth and some of the things that she's ingesting and doing. A lot of that, Bob, is different across the board. And that's something else, frankly, that never really gets talked about is the moms themselves. What are moms doing with baby in the womb? Kind of going back to the whole preborn thing, by the way, because. It is a life in the womb. It's affected by what mom's doing, what she's eating, what she's drinking, what she's smoking and so on. So at the end of the day, Bob, yes, that is a living being inside of the womb, not to steal any of your thunder. But the left wants to tell you that's just a bunch of tissue in there. It's not.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're absolutely right. It's not. And I want to talk about the childhood vaccines, though, part of this. I'm not saying and I have never claimed that I know for a fact that childhood vaccines are causing autism. In fact, I don't know that for a fact, but I think I have a legitimate reason to be suspicious of that. My wife and I, we never had our kids. We had seven kids. We didn't have them vaccinated. OK, we just didn't. It's like I didn't want to take the chance in this. And I'm going to share with you, John, if you'll bear with me, indulge me a little bit here. I want to share with you a little anecdote of what happened with one of my sons when he was born. My youngest son, actually, when he was born. So the pediatrician came in the room with this clipboard and was like, okay, well, we'd like to schedule the hepatitis B shot, the MMR shots, the polio shots, whatever, for my newborn son. I said, no, I'm opting out. And he started trying to debate me on this, right? And he says, well, hepatitis B. I said, well, hold on a second. Hepatitis B, I can tell you right now, my wife is not a drug addict. So that's not an issue. And secondly, I'm going to go out on a limb and say my newborn son is not sexually active. So the answer is no. So he starts talking about the other vaccines. He says, well, aren't you concerned about your son getting polio? And I said, aren't you concerned about my son developing autism? He said, well, there's no conclusive proof that's shown that these cause autism. I said, that's right. I said, but there is also no alternative explanation for how we've gone in the last few decades from just a handful of vaccines to several dozen vaccines. And at the same time, autism rates have gone from one in 10,000 to one in, then it was 150 when I said that. Now it's one in 49. I said, can you give me an alternate explanation as to why that is? And he's like, well, we have been doing a better job of identifying certain parts of the autism spectrum. I said, you know what? That could explain maybe going from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 5,000, but not 1 in 10,000 to 49. So can you give me an alternate explanation? And he says, well, what if your child got polio? And I said, how many cases of polio? I said, you're a pediatrician. How many cases of polio do you know of right now in southeast Michigan? Hmm. And he said, well, I remember there was a case in Royal Oak, a suburb of Detroit, a couple of years ago. I said, think about what you just said. You thought of one case a couple of years ago. I said, now, how many cases of autism exist in your own neighborhood? You know, when I went to high school, you could have seven, eight hundred kids in a school and you might have one autistic kid in the entire school. Now you don't have a classroom without an autistic kid in it. So don't tell me that I don't have at least reason to be concerned. And so he said, OK, I'll write up, check off that you're declining. And he gave up after about 10 minutes. Right. But he smiled when he said it, John. And I said, I don't get it. Is something funny? He goes, no. He said, I just said I was standing outside the door looking at the chart before coming in. And I hesitated a minute coming in because I saw the chart and I saw your name and I know who you are. And I thought, oh, boy, I'm going to have my hands full here. I said, well, so we had a nice laugh about it. We shook hands. I know. But you know what, though? Unless you can give me an alternate theory, then I'm going to be suspicious. And so all the pro-vaccine people, the hyper-pro-vaccine people, they ought to be welcoming HHS getting to the bottom of this because if it's not vaccines, then maybe this can prove it once and for all. But if it is, don't we want to know?
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right. And again, Bob, I'm one where I believe it's a And I could be wrong. You pull back the veil, really start digging into it, try to figure out exactly what's going on. Maybe it is just one thing. And if it is great, that's pretty easy to fix when it's all said and done. Stop doing that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Or one of a few.
SPEAKER 01 :
Just let me know what they are. Exactly. So what are they? And is it one thing? Is it a combination of things? I mean, again, there's so many things that are different today than when you and I were kids. And to your point, and you're right. There just wasn't many cases of it when you and I were kids versus what we see today. So something's changed. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
There is something, as the old saying goes, there's something in the water. Whatever it is, I don't know what it is. I just I want to know. OK, we ought to care about that. And the press and the Democrats and everybody else is, you know, all the children. OK, well, then you ought to say, let's follow the facts wherever they lead.
SPEAKER 01 :
But, you know, the other argument against this, too, Bob, that I've heard of late, which I'll make sure I handle this delicately as well. You know, what's wrong with an autistic kid? And and, you know, we're taking away some of the joy that those families get from those particular individuals because they look at life a lot differently than anybody else. So why would we want to take that joy away from them? Bob, I have the same joy for my own kids that aren't autistic, so that's a really, really lame excuse when it's all said and done. It is extremely lame. Any time that you can let somebody live a more fulfilled life and be quote-unquote normal, and I know this is going to probably go down a path that I might even get some hate mail back on, but the reality is, and I've got a good friend of mine that has a very autistic child, one that will live with him until he dies because he just doesn't have the ability to function on his own. And I can tell you right now that he would prefer his son to be like mine. I'll tell you that straight up. Of course.
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course. I mean, first of all, we've got to remember something. Ever since the Garden of Eden, every single human being is, quote unquote, defective in one way or another. Our bodies aren't supposed to die in the first place. Very true. But do autistic kids have value made in the image and likeness of God? Of course they do. Just like Down syndrome children are made in the image and likeness of God. But you know what? We've got a sick society that says, hey, if we can find out there's a defect while in the womb, let's kill that child. So that's really where we ought to go here with this is if you're saying, well, hey, Autistic, you know, we need to see the value in autistic kids, down-tender kids. I agree with you. You know what that means? Let them live inside the womb, okay? Which brings me to pre-born, of course, because pre-born is a great way to save babies' lives. You know how common it is? for our society to say to a woman, get amniocentesis. If we can find out that your child has Down syndrome or some other kind of quote unquote genetic defect, hey, we're going to push an abortion on you now. And then that way that child won't have to experience all of that issue growing up. That makes about as much logical sense as looking at a five-year-old kid that has a, quote, genetic defect and saying, well, then let's just legalize killing that child so they don't have to grow up and deal with it. No. These kids need to be protected. Their lives need to be saved. And the best way to do this, show that mom an ultrasound image of her baby. She's not going to go across the street to Planned Parenthood. She lets her baby live, okay? She usually accepts Jesus Christ as Savior, too. Pre-born shows these ultrasound images. So what we're asking you folks to do is to pay for these ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to save one baby's life. How many babies' lives will you save? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number, and then that's your gift to pre-born. And if you can buy an ultrasound machine, they're 15 grand apiece. Your forever legacy is you're saving thousands and thousands of babies' lives. Nice tax write-off for you, too. But anything that you give to Preborn goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So here's how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Preborn. You can give right there. Or you can give over the phone, 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. We appreciate you folks supporting Preborn. We appreciate you folks supporting SunPowerLED and this photobiomodulation. I mean, this is red light therapy. This isn't the cheap topical stuff that people advertise out there, John. This is like the real deal getting down to the cellular level.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. So as we continue talking about... what's going on with health care and such. So we talked about the childhood vaccines and autism and getting to the bottom of it. I think that's a really good thing to do. I'm curious, John, to get your take on the issue of drug prices. As you know, we pay ridiculously high prices for pharmaceutical drugs here in America, where, as Trump is pointing out, you can have the very same pill manufactured by the very same company in the very same laboratory, and it costs three, four, five times more here in the United States than it does in other countries around the world. Donald Trump signed a most favored nation status for drug companies here in America so that you don't have drugs that are marked up in price to the U.S. One of the things that they're doing is, I hate to say it, but the pharmaceutical industry, they say, well, We're going to go ahead and sell these drugs at a cheaper cost to other countries. And in doing so, we've got to make up our losses somewhere. So we're going to three, four, five times Keystone in the U.S. just to make up for that. And Trump was like, no, it's not going to work that way. Yeah, I know. And it's like, no, that's exactly what they're doing there. Yes, they're price gouging for all the Democrats who care about price gouging. They're price gouging the American consumer to subsidize their discounted prices around the rest of the world. And Trump is saying enough is enough. No more.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, what people don't understand, and let me make sure I'm very clear on this. We, as a country, you, as a buyer of drugs, have been supplementing other countries and the development of new drugs for even other countries that get the benefit of your paying for that. And I had a guest on yesterday. We were talking about this, Bob. And what I basically said was, you know what? It's about stinking time. that as we go around the world, which is what Trump's doing even in regards to tariffs and so on, and I'm sorry, there's a lot of countries out there that are very thin-skinned along these lines, but what I'm tired of, Bob, is having to run around the world and apologize for some of the things that people don't like about America. I want the opposite. I want to thank you from other countries for the things that we have done for them, like prescription drugs you're talking about right now. The reality is we do more for the rest of the world than any other country, and most of the time all we get is a poke in the eye when it's all said and done. I want to thank you moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And by the way, the American not only the American consumer, but certainly the American worker and the American manufacturing worker, the American farmer. They need to be thanking Donald Trump right now for these new trade deals that he's managed to negotiate with, for example, the U.K., The U.K. is now opening up their markets to U.S. farming products in a way that it wasn't opened up before. So the U.S. farmer benefits, the U.S. taxpayer benefits, because now we don't have to subsidize that farmer as much when he's able to sell his goods over in the U.K. Trump is getting renegotiated deals as well with China and India as well. And so this is going to benefit the U.S. worker, I think, in a powerful way with these new trade deals. But as far as drug costs go, so, John, what happens then if the pharmaceutical companies, they say, no, we're not going to do this. We're still going to continue marking up our prices to the U.S.? It seems like maybe this is an area where the competition comes in, the transparency in pricing and competition plays in so that – So personally, I'd like to see the free market force the pharmaceutical companies to have to be more marketable in their prices, more competitive in their prices.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, keep in mind, too, one thing we haven't talked about that this act also has an effect on is the PBMs, the middleman when it comes to all of the drug end of things that, by the way, they are making, in my opinion, and you know me. I'm a free market guy, Bob. I'm a business owner. I think you ought to be able to charge whatever the market will bear. The problem is, in that world, it's not really what the market bears. It's what we can, through our cartel, and I'm being literal when I say that, through our cartel setup. So in other words, all PBMs, it's price fixing when it's all said and done, Bob. There's no competition there, and some of these PBMs are making 1,000% on these drugs that they're actually getting from the pharmacy or from the pharmaceutical company and then passing on into the end pharmacy, if you would, or the hospital or whatever it happens to be. The reality is those are the guys that are making bank. They're making as much in some cases as what a lot of other organizations are making across the country. That part of it also needs fixed, Bob, because that's jacking the prices of drugs up as well. That is so true.
SPEAKER 03 :
So true. All right. Let's, in our last few minutes here, let's talk some sports. Okay. Okay. Pete Rose. Pete Rose is the all-time hits leader in baseball. He's an automatic runner. Hall of Famer. But Pete Rose and Pete Rose, Pete Rose is very much on my radar screen growing up because with the Cincinnati Reds, the red machine, I grew up in Columbus, Ohio, and we didn't have an MLB team in Columbus. So we all kind of grafted into the Cincinnati Reds. So I grew up in the days of Johnny Bench and Pete Rose and all that kind of stuff. Pete Rose was a phenomenal, phenomenal player known for his uh... head first uh... slides into bases instead of feed first but he was johnnie hustle and the guy all-time hits leader but he had a gambling problem and this was wrong and i'm not justifying or defending and he had a gambling problem and one of the rules in baseball is that you're not allowed to gamble on your team. You're not allowed to bet on your team. He never bet against his own team. He always bet for his team to win, but it still feeds the corruption of the game. I get that. And so that's why when he retired, he received a ban from the Hall of Fame. Okay, fine. Give him a punishment. But to make it a lifetime ban? Now, the guy died just a few months ago at 83 years old, never getting to enjoy the fruits of his labor. To me, John, maybe it's just the Christian in me who thinks of forgiveness and redemption. But to me, that's disproportionate punishment that Pete Rose had to experience, especially when you see the level of corruption that exists in so much of sports, including baseball. Put Shoeless Joe Jackson in the Hall of Fame. Put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. So I'm glad they're finally doing it, but in my opinion, too late.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, it's too little, too late. I agree with you. And I always thought, even as a kid, and looking at all of that, and like you, we didn't have a pro team here in Denver, so you sort of latched on to some other teams. And I was always a fan of Pete Rose. I just thought that, to your point, he was a hustler. He did a lot of things that nobody else did. did. And when that came down, it was sort of like, okay, so we're going to negate everything he did even prior to those events, like you not saying those are right, very wrong in what he's doing. I'm not a gambling person, period. Anyways, Bob, I have my own thoughts on that, that we probably do a podcast on at some point in time, but I'm not a gambler. I just, I just don't think that's the, you know, personally don't think that's the right way to try to get ahead. I know a lot of people would disagree with me on that, even Christians, but that's just my my take so i'm not a gambler um you know you do whatever you want to do at the end of the day but it's not for me and and i definitely don't think people that are in that particular event per se i don't care what it is i don't care whether we're talking football baseball basketball we go down the line horse racing on down the line we go i don't think you should be able to to bet and be involved in that particular play At the same time, on the same token, all of the accomplishments that Pete Rose did prior to that should be acknowledged and frankly should have been acknowledged before he passed.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, now, let me play, pardon the term, devil's advocate for a moment, because I agree with everything that you said, but I want to play a devil's advocate thing with you here. Aren't we, theoretically, as conservatives and Christians, aren't we law and order people that say, hey, nobody's above the law, and if you're not above the law, then you're also not above the rules when it comes to sports, and if he violated rules that you're not allowed to do and feeds the corruption machine in sports... Do we want the Menendez brothers getting out after shotgunning their parents? Well, yeah, but no, they spend life in prison. And so in the same way, a lifetime ban, if you feed the corruption machine in sports, it's a lifetime ban. Lifetime ban means lifetime ban. Just because he's Pete Rose and he's popular and he Charlie Hustles doesn't mean that he's above the rules, just like the Biden should not be above the law. Devil's advocate, how do you respond?
SPEAKER 01 :
I guess my response would be, fine, then make that consistent across the board because you haven't done that with a lot of other players that did things worse than Pete Rose did.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Well, look, I think that's a fair point, too.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's my comeback. Because it's not consistent, Bob, as you know. They had a vendetta against Pete.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, they really did, which part of the problem here, I think, is that Pete Rose was so outspoken and defiant and kind of hardheaded in some areas.
SPEAKER 01 :
He was not going to bow to the MLB. Let's just say that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right. He didn't do that. And so they said, fine. And they had kind of a Mexican standoff with each other. And I just I think it was petty on the part of the MLB. Shoeless Joe Jackson. I mean, my good. We're going back over 100 years now, aren't we? Yeah. For Joe Jackson? Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. What's the Field of Dreams? That's what the movie's about, basically, with Shoeless Joe?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I know. So, my goodness. Well, anyway, I'm glad to see that he's being eligible now for the Hall of Fame. He should have been put in it by now. I just feel really bad that the guy had to go to his deathbed and not experience a Hall of Fame.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and one other thing that I would throw into that too, Bob, is all of these guys, Pete included, has families and relatives and so on that are affected by all of what you said as well. And again, I guess, you know, what's your comeback on the whole law and order thing and so on? I get it. And I get there's supposed to be consequences for things. And no, we don't want professional players gambling, especially on their own games. I get that. But it doesn't take away from the accomplishments that person did prior to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And you don't want to disproportionately punish. OK, so somebody commits a crime, you know, somebody speeds, you give them a speeding ticket. OK, but if they speed, you don't take them to the chair. And I'm just you know, and I'm not saying that what he did is is on the level of speeding. OK, but it's also not on the level of, in my honest opinion, a lifetime ban forever.
SPEAKER 01 :
So but if I'm not mistaken, too, but, you know, Bob, correct me if I'm wrong, but If I'm not correct, Pete didn't gamble when he was playing. He only gambled when he was managing. Am I correct in saying that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Partially correct, because when he was managing, he was also a manager player. So he did play also. But he never bet against his own team. If he bet against his own team, then you could say, well, maybe he's throwing the game. Maybe he didn't hustle as hard as he could have because he wanted to hedge his bets. But When you're betting on yourself, that's not a bad bet. Bet on himself, okay? And so it's wrong, but it violates the letter of the rule, but it doesn't violate the spirit of the rule.
SPEAKER 01 :
You're not going to throw the game in your favor, let's just say that.
SPEAKER 03 :
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Welcome to Sekulow. We've got a great show lined up for you. Will Haynes is joining me. One of our clients, Zach Knott, who you may have remembered. He was one of the pro-life, if you say, demonstrators, protesters who got in a little bit of trouble. The ACLJ jumped into action. We're going to hear from him. firsthand coming up a little bit later. And then Jeff Balaban will be joining us later in the broadcast coming to you from ACLJ Jerusalem, a packed show. But of course, the leading story of the day is that judge in Wisconsin, the one who was... What do you want to call that? I'm trying to find the right words for sneaking. Yeah, we said Scooby-Dooing. We've said that quite often. Scooby-Dooing. Yeah, which I don't know if that's a great term for it because she was like the villain in Scooby-Doo. That's true. Getting them out of those doors. Yeah, these meddling kids. Finding secret doors, Benny Hill style. Getting them out the back door. And you're making sure that these people who, by the way, this person, we've talked about this before, who was snuck out the back door, was charged at that moment for assault, an assault of a man and a woman. So it wasn't talking about somebody who was in there for great reasons to begin with. And of course this judge decided, Oh no, we see ISIS coming. We got to get rid of these people. We got to hide them. We got to. And now of course she has been indicted by a grand jury.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. So the charges that were brought by the federal government in federal court against this judge have now turned into an indictment by a grand jury and in the Eastern District of Wisconsin. And the indictment is for two counts, one being a violation of 18 U.S.C. Section 1701, sorry, 1071, not 1701, 1071, concealing a person from arrest. And the second count is in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1505, obstruction of proceedings against before departments, agencies, and committees. And it even says, Hannah C. Dugan knowingly concealed EFR, a person whose arrest, a warrant, and process had been issued under provisions of the law of the United States. so as to prevent the discovery and arrest of EFR after notice and knowledge of the fact that a warrant and process had been issued for the apprehension of EFR. So the grand jury returned a true bill. She is now indicted. Her first hearing is tomorrow before a federal judge where she will enter a plea. So this is moving. She is at the mercy of the court now.
SPEAKER 05 :
She's ready to be done with this, realizing you made probably a pretty big mistake. And by the way, I wanted to clarify, it was not for assault, Will. It was just for three counts of battery. So, you know, just to make sure we... are clear saying the correct say the correct terms that this person was charged with three counts of battery including upon a woman that is what's happening by the way But they are so distorted, and I don't even mean just these judges, because of course we have the judges who had people living with him and all that. I'm just talking about the world where they can't see, especially the American people, they can't see the actions that they're taking. It is that, you know, you don't want to say the Trump derangement syndrome because it comes off kind of hacky. But it really is, because you're not going for your best judgment. You're not even going for the law. Let's say you were still violating the law, but you were doing it for your conscience. You're doing it for... what you felt was right. You felt it was right to sneak out someone. Let's just take away that they were there illegally. To sneak out someone who had been charged with battery of a woman. But, you know, because it had something to do with President Trump and the Trump administration, it couldn't be good. We had to fight back against it. Look, phone lines are open for you. I want to hear your thoughts as well. 1-800-684-3110. It's been a big week already here at the ACLJ. We can't take the foot off of the gas. Now we had some significant victories. You're going to hear about one of them firsthand from our client coming up in just a few minutes. We're pro-life advocates over the last week. Thanks to your support and our media team and our legal team. We even saw the HHS. respond to an ACLJ article and take action. We'll talk about that too coming up. We talked about yesterday. I think it's important to reiterate. We'll be right back on Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are lining up, but there's still a few open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We're, of course, talking about the Wisconsin judge who was indicted now for hiding, not only hiding, helping an escape, which, by the way, the person was caught almost immediately out the back door, essentially a jury door, while he was there being charged with counts of battery. And Will, I think we need to kind of back this up a little bit and tell the whole story and what happened here that then led to now a judge in Wisconsin having to go to federal court herself.
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because of this situation that's right so the individual who is in the country illegally actually had been deported once already was scheduled to appear before this judge on the charges you talked about in the first uh segment of the broadcast they were battery charges so violent crime against another individual actually two individuals in this case and the attorney for the individual and the clerk alerted the judge that it appeared that there were members of ice at the court that day. And that upset the judge. There were reports that she was visibly upset in the charging document. She came out and started to, basically get in a heated exchange with the members of ice they tried to de-escalate it she told them that they had to go see the chief judge which they did they did nothing to make this uh worse than it should have been uh and she was the one who was visibly upset by them being there Then when they left to go to see the chief judge to talk it through, the chief judge confirmed, yes, you have a warrant, which you had shown to the judge. You're allowed to be here. Just don't go into a courtroom and make an arrest. Wait till the proceedings are over and you're good to go. During that time, the judge looked around, tried to see if any other agents were there, missed one who was in plain clothes because they didn't come in in body armor and things of that nature. They actually do these arrests at courthouses many times because they know it lowers the risk to the public and to the officers and to the individual being arrested because they have to go through security. They know they won't be armed. It's a full process. It's actually a much safer place to make an arrest like this. She then goes in, pulls the attorney for the illegal immigrant aside, and instructs the illegal immigrant to sit in the jury box. They discuss and then escort him through the jury chambers, through court chambers, non-public areas. And then the ICE agent that saw this take place notices they pop out a different door on the other side of the elevators, and then they pursue the individual, making the arrest shortly thereafter. But the victims of the crime were there for that hearing and they were confused. The prosecutor was confused. What happened to the client? And they were told that matter has been dismissed for the day. We will return to it another time. The entire charade that was put on was to help protect someone that was before her court on charges. So one, she's supposed to be an impartial arbiter of the law. She's already showing partiality in this case because she's helping the person escape.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And when you look at this, I don't want to put words or thoughts into the brain of this judge. I haven't talked to her. None of us have. But you know, in this moment, she thought, I'm a hero. I am doing the hero's work here. I am helping this person evade ICE, evade being deported. But again, as Will stated, we're not talking about some hero family man. We're talking about someone who's being charged for assaulting a woman and another man. Someone who had been deported already due to criminal engagement. This is not just one of those sob stories. which I, look, I can sympathize with that and say, hey, or hey, even if it was the person on the other side, what if it was the person that was attacked? You go, okay, maybe you could give that person a little grace. But this is where it gets out of hand. And this is where, look, I think a lot of us have to take our, you know, heart hat, if you will, and go, okay, where does this actually live in terms of the law? And not only the law, Where does it live in terms of morality? Where is the morality in this? Look, I mean, I don't know if he wasn't convicted yet. He didn't have the opportunity to be convicted yet. So of course you're innocent until proven guilty, but you're not talking about someone who was brought up on these charges for nothing and for no reason. So now the judge herself has to be taken into court, into federal court. This is what honestly we're wasting our federal dollars on. You know, going after judges, who are taking the law into their own hands and not even doing it in a way that a judge usually would be taking the law into their own hands. Why, as Will said, Scooby-Dooing someone out the back door so they can evade being caught federally.
SPEAKER 07 :
And what you're also seeing here is why this is so dangerous. One, this is supposed to be a judge, someone that gives faith to the legal system, to the judicial system, to that process, and instead is tearing down Americans' faith in our very systems. But now you're starting to see that creep into Congress and other elected officials. We saw the mayor of Newark and also some members of Congress that stormed an ICE detention facility, broke in, threw the gate, crashed the gate. This wasn't them protesting or arranging some tour as oversight for members of Congress. This was trying to forcibly enter this facility. And when you start to have this trickle of bad behavior, This is the party, the Democrat Party, that will not stop talking about January 6th. And no matter how much condemnation or you look at the facts and say whatever about it, they will not give it up as the worst day in American history. And it was a bad day. But they're not leading by example in their party of saying we follow the rule of law. We follow the proceedings of our government. They are trying to subvert things like warrants from a judge or breaking into detention facilities. They are leading by poor example. And the slippery slope you see here is not that America becomes less divided and more likely to have more civil conversations and debate. You are seeing the elected leaders do bad behavior, which is a bad signal to their constituents. And then you have, instead of the leadership of the party condemning it, You have statements like this from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. This is a bite three where she's warning the administration about coming after members of her party. Let's go ahead and roll that.
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They know that they cannot come for assault. And recently what they said is that DHS is allegedly looking into arresting members of Congress who were showing up for their legal and constitutional obligation to conduct oversight. If anyone's breaking the law in this situation, it's not members of Congress. It's the Department of Homeland Security. It's people like Tom Homan and Secretary Kristi Noem. You lay a finger.
SPEAKER 07 :
on someone on representative bonnie watson coleman on representative or any of the representatives that were there you lay a finger on them we are going to have a problem she says we're going to have a problem uh the minority leader hakeem jeffries said this is a red line and they will find out what will happen if they try to do something like this this is the same party that said president trump has zero immunity right But yet all of a sudden, every member of Congress, because they're allegedly doing oversight by forcing themselves into a detention facility and getting into a physical altercation. The mayor of Newark was arrested. That is protected that they are immune from. No, if you break the law. We are a nation of laws. You should be punished and tried if you have broken the law. It goes to a grand jury. Charges are brought. Grand jury. Court process. They are trying to throw all of the constitutional norms out as they try to go over here and go over and say there's a constitutional crisis. They are creating this in real time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, exactly. Of course, these are talking points. These are something that AOC has been doing. And look, you know what's coming, and that is a presidential run for AOC. I mean, I think there's no way it doesn't happen in our lifetime. There's no way it doesn't happen, by the way, I think, very soon. She, I think, is now qualified to be able to do it, to be able to run. Look at those videos. She makes a big impact. Don't laugh at those things when they start happening because it becomes a – It becomes morality. As I said, they're preaching a morality, not a law. So you're saying they always go after conservatives for that. You're trying to make your morality part of the law. They are actually doing the opposite, which is saying our morality may break the law, but therefore it is still superior and therefore more patriotic.
SPEAKER 07 :
And just to clarify, you said now she is qualified to be president. She's 35. You're saying constitutionally you weren't trying to make an endorsement for president.
SPEAKER 05 :
I was talking about the law.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Right. Unlike them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. OK. Hey, phone lines are open for you. We're going to take some more coming up. 1-800-684-3110. Stay on hold if you're on hold. In the next segment, though, we're going to be joined by one of our clients here at the ACLJ that we were able to swiftly get to work on. And it's really a wonderful story. If you wonder why you support the work of the ACLJ, you're going to want to stay tuned and hear from our guest coming up, Zach Knotts, in the next segment of the show. Don't go anywhere. We're going to continue the conversation as well on this topic as well as head to ACLJ Jerusalem with Jeff Balaban to talk about all of what's happening, including President Trump's trip to Saudi Arabia. and around that area as well, and Qatar, and we're going to break it all down coming up live from our offices in Jerusalem. Stay tuned and support the work of the ACLJ. Big wins this week, and we couldn't do it without you. Go to ACLJ.org. Welcome back to Seculo. You know, it's always great when we're able to be joined by an ACLJ client, someone that we've been able to work with, someone to be able to be successful with. And we are excited to be joined by Zach Knotts, who is joining us right now live and thankfully able to do this interview live. Zach, thanks for coming on today. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to be here. All right. Let's let's start at the beginning here. Give us a little background on your ministry, what you've been doing and who you are, and then we'll get to why we needed to get involved.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. So my wife and I go to the Northeast Ohio Women's Center in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, every Saturday morning. Been going for about five months now, and we minister to the women. We offer whatever assistance they need while we're out there, whether it's if they want to give their child up for adoption, if they need financial assistance, whatever it is, we're there prepared and willing to give whatever they need before they go inside. And it's been a challenge just because of the resistance we face, but that's what we do. Every Saturday morning, we do it for the glory of God. And we're grateful to be there. My wife was actually saved from an abortion. So that's why we have a really personal touch to this. Her mother was on her way back to her appointment, and God literally gave her a vision. She was not a Christian at the time, would become a Christian for about 20 years. And she saw exactly what happens back there, blood all over the walls, saw demons manifesting, and she ran out screaming. So my wife's life was literally saved through a supernatural intervention by God. So we have a very personal touch to, and we're very grateful to be able to be the voice of the voiceless on the sidewalk every Saturday.
SPEAKER 05 :
For sure. And you talk about some of the resistance that you've encountered. Now, obviously it gets amped up a little bit in the coming weeks or the previous weeks, But before that, what did that look like on these streets when you were there trying to convince people to talk to people, to counsel people, to make the right decision, to choose life there? But what is that resistance? Because I think when you hear someone like Ohio, a place that, you know, Midwest, we're not talking about, you're not doing this in L.A., you're not doing this in New York, where you feel like the resistance would be stronger. But what is it like there? The clinic has eight to ten patients.
SPEAKER 08 :
every Saturday. So they park in the back. So we have about 10 or 15 seconds to try to speak as loudly as we can so they can hear us over the kazoos, the whistles, the cowbells, the tambourines and the music. So it's very difficult to get our voices heard. We have such a short period of time to say anything just to try to get our voices heard. And in between then, of course, the Escorts will mock us. They'll say vile things to us. So it's difficult because you really do have, it's 10 to 15 seconds, if that, between life and death. So it's been really hard just even getting our voices heard. So that's why we wanted to use that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just for clarity. So the escorts and the people around them are making these kind of noises and racket and the music and these, like that's coming from just the people, the escorts walking these women into the facility?
SPEAKER 08 :
Every single time. And I mean, with cowbells, they usually have a, you know, sometimes have a boombox of music playing on a car that's parked, one of the escorts car. And then, you know, the kazoos whistles, it gets really loud. So we're literally trying to be heard over that boombox.
SPEAKER 05 :
parade and celebration of death it feels like I mean that is so bizarre to hear and I mean you think of it as this moment of sadness the moment that we all that everyone if you made that decision that we disagree with it obviously we it's an important one and we think that you should be treating it as a sad moment but again like you said they're creating this sort of chaos but the ACLJ has to get involved and well I'll let you take the next question here because now things get interesting
SPEAKER 07 :
Even though the clinic employees or volunteers and escorts are clearly causing a disturbance with their noise, but something happened to you one faithful Saturday that hadn't happened before. Describe what happened. Sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I had a small, you know, hand or it was just a headset that I would have. And I like to use that because I can talk my normal voice. My wife and I will chill. She'll preach the gospel as well. And we use our normal talking voice so we don't have to yell. Well, that died. And I went and got the megaphone that I had and was using that to preach the gospel. I want the women inside the clinic to hear me. So you decide to change your minds and run out. And the battery died. And I wasn't even really paying attention to my surroundings. We were continuing to engage the escorts and just preach Christ to them. And three cop cars pulled up. Again, I was completely oblivious to it because I was focused on the conversation. And then Sergeant comes up and says, you're coming with us. And I'm confused. I'm like, what for? What did I do? And he says, it's not the time for questions. You're coming with us. And then I'm still confused. And then he threatens to place me under arrest if I don't walk with him. So under threat of arrest, I walked with him to the squad car and they put me in the back and they charged me with disorderly conduct for being too loud and causing annoyance or inconvenience was the actual charge.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that's where the ACLJ has to get involved, because this seems like an issue that we would have been doing in the 1990s. It feels like it is well settled what your laws are, what the rules are. And in this situation, we were able to take action. Now that action, though, Again, though you'd think this is settled law, Will, it's not how it works.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. So they were taking you to trial over this. And the ACLJ was standing with you. But on Friday, all that changed when we were able to achieve a victory. on your behalf so that you would not face the legal system even before it got to the trial, able to secure a victory. Just tell us your thoughts on the resolution to that and how God provided in this time when you were facing the strong arm of the government.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. I couldn't be more grateful for the ACLJ. I mean, when I sent the email, I mean, that night I got a response from Liam and he called me and he's just been phenomenal. Everybody that's helped, you know, ever since. But, you know, going into the trial because I had seen and I followed the case, the docket meticulously, and I had seen everything that the ACLJ wrote and just the depth. of their analysis and calling out the law for what it was unconstitutional really made me feel just so good and so well you know protected not only by god but through the legal system with the aclj i knew everything was going to resolve in my favor i had such complete peace on friday and like you said we had victory and i truly could be more grateful to god for just the providence and you know being in this situation for his glory and then also with the aclj and this the phenomenal legal defense they provided for me i'm truly grateful
SPEAKER 05 :
Zach, thank you so much. And I'm so glad you're able to join us. Look, a lot of these cases take years and years and we're not able to have the clients on air. When I say, and I tell this to our audience all the time, when you go to aclj.org slash help, you fill out that little form, you fill out that email, you're going to get in touch with a lawyer, as he said, very quickly. If it's within scope, you're going to hear from our incredible team. Very quickly. And the team thinks three dimensionally, five dimensionally, 10 dimensionally, as I said, because though it is over for you, thank God, Zach, you were able to continue what you're doing. It is over for other people in Zach's position, but we're not done representing you.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're going to now take a civil suit against the very ordinance that was not being applied equally under the law. It was targeting the pro-life ministry there. It wasn't going after those that were causing a ruckus with noisemakers. And so we are proud that we can now stand alongside you to represent you to try and push back against the law so that this won't happen again.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, exactly. And that's one thing that I love about the ACLJ is just setting a precedent for people like me and my wife and our friends on the sidewalk. They're going to be the voice of the voiceless and just fighting against tyranny is what it is. Like you said, they, you know, charged me, but, you know, the escorts were making... just as much as not more noise. So to be able to do this and to just, you know, tell everybody that's on the sidewalk preaching the gospel and sharing the good news of Christ with women escorts everybody. You have a right to be there and you have a right for your voice to be heard. And you don't, you know, if the government comes after you, you have to fight back and stand there for the glory of God.
SPEAKER 05 :
Zach, keep fighting the good fight. We appreciate you being out there and willing to take a stand for life. And the ACLJ is available to you as well. If you're listening or watching right now, go to ACLJ.org slash help. If it's within scope, we'll take care of it. Also, you want to make sure we are there for you when you need it and when people like Zach need it at no cost to them. And we can do that, obviously, with your support. So if you want to make a donation, it's a great time to do it. Hopefully you're inspired by this story from Zach. All right, we'll be right back with more on Sekulow.
SPEAKER 06 :
keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. We are going to be taking your calls and comments throughout this segment, so give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. Thanks to Zach for coming on. If you missed him, go back to the last half hour of the broadcast later on when you get the archived version on there through YouTube or Rumble or ACLJ.org. Go back and listen to him. I think it's amazing to hear what the ACLJ legal team is able to do and to jump into action so fast and take care of things, again, at no cost. for our clients which is really wonderful and it's not it's only at no cost because people like you support the work financially so again it's been a big week already we got to keep going we've had a lot of wins which is great it's a great week of wins but the fight continues on so be a part of it right now whether that is what's going on in Massachusetts for our pro-life cases whether that is in Ohio like you heard the HHS again this is one that we talked about yesterday and I think we got to reiterate it the HHS just launched an investigation into a hospital that was accused of forcing five pro-life ultrasound technicians to perform abortions. And by the way, where did they find out about that? Because those people were our clients and they read the blog on ACLJ.org. That's right. People from the HHS decided to launch an investigation because of the ACLJ, because of your support. We were able to have the best of the best creating content in our media team, I mean, that's a real big thanks to our media team for writing incredible content, putting up incredible content each and every day, but also to our legal team. And the HHS took notice because of people like you who support the work. And we know how important that is. And we can't thank you enough. Go to ACLJ.org today if you want to become an ACLJ champion as well. That's someone that gives on a monthly basis. I'll take a call real quick off the top. Let's go to Bill who's calling in Texas online too. Bill, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 11 :
How you doing, guys? Always an excellent show. But the reason I'm calling is because my dad retired, New York City police, 23 years with the five mafia families. And what this judge did parallels if somebody was to try to break all those guys with their commission trial, all those big bosses being brought in. This is under RICO. She's involved in racketeering, influence a corrupt organization.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, she's there right now. She's going to be charged soon. Is it tomorrow?
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She will have her first hearing.
SPEAKER 05 :
She's been indicted.
SPEAKER 07 :
She was already charged, has gone to a grand jury, and has now been indicted on these charges, and she'll enter a plea tomorrow.
SPEAKER 05 :
It sounds like something from a mafia movie. It sounds like something where the corruption is so loud, it doesn't even feel real. It doesn't feel real that a judge would sneak someone who is there for assault out the back door. It doesn't even make any sense other than they've believed some sort of lie that anything this administration does is evil. Therefore, let's help people who are being charged with assaulting women. Multiple accounts of battery. But because they may get thrown out of the country because they're not here legally, it doesn't matter if they are beating women. Let's get him out the back door. And of course they were caught immediately. And then this judge charged this judge now up for a first hearing. I mean, again, like, like you said, it sounds like something out of a movie. It sounds so extreme that it can't be real. And I, what I'm hoping is that it's being taken care of so quickly. This does stop any, uh, you should say copycat judges from doing this again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and you brought up earlier that the judge probably thought, and obviously not putting any thoughts in her head or words in her mouth, but that the actions, the way that this went down, as is alleged in the charging document, is that she probably felt like she was the good guy. She was the hero. Absolutely. Here's the problem. The people on the left will try to make her the hero still. She may serve jail time if convicted. I mean, it can be. She may not because she is a judge and maybe they have a more lenient sentence. But at the end of the day, I can see a book coming out about this that is gobbled up by the left because, oh, this is the game plan for how to stand up. What are they standing up to? Not against President Trump. Against the rule of law is what they're standing up against.
SPEAKER 05 :
Again, if it was getting the person out of there who had been assaulted... I think you have a different story. You have a different heart string pull. But that's not what happened. I'm not saying that's right either. I'm just saying at least you can see a clearer path to some sort of morality in this. What you saw here was just the typical President Trump and the Trump administration doing something I don't like. And they're doing everything they do I don't like. Therefore, the answer is to violate whatever they're doing. We're going to get right back with ACLJ Jerusalem team. Jeff Balaban live from Jerusalem. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. There are some phone lines open for you if you want to get on hold right now because we are going to go live to ACLJ Jerusalem. You can give us a call to discuss any of the topics we brought up today or any of the topics that maybe are on your mind. Go call in right now at 1-800-684-3110. We'll take as many of those calls in the last segment as we can. Let's head over though to ACLJ Jerusalem. Jeff Balaban is joining us live from Israel. Jeff, there's obviously a lot of news coming out of the Middle East right now. President Trump has been making his appearances, not in Israel, but throughout the Middle East. Of course, there's been some controversy with that, what it looks like, what's the good, what's the bad, but let's take a first look at what's going on in Israel. What's the tone there right now? We did see the release of, and I think we need to make sure it's clear, the release of Eden Alexander, the last American hostage alive that was being kept a lot of american news i feel like has spun this as the last hostage but we know that's not the case but what are the feelings and vibes going on in jerusalem as people are leaving now their normal 24 7 life uh as normal as at least they can
SPEAKER 04 :
That's a great question, Logan. The truth is that it's very different what's going on now from, let's say, a year ago at the height of the beginning months of the October 7 war. Jerusalem had very few sirens, for example, whereas Tel Aviv and places closer to the south were getting a lot of rockets and obviously up north from Hezbollah. Well, the IDF has, thank God, taken care of the immediate threat from Hezbollah, at least in terms of missiles being launched from Gaza, missiles being launched, they're much rarer. But we still have the Houthis back in Yemen, you know, quite a long way away. And so things have morphed. So for example, Jerusalem, which seldom got sirens, there were other security fears. Now we get sirens virtually every day. The sirens are there's much more advanced time because it's launched from Yemen. So the idea of is able to track it through satellites and other means. And the app which we all carry with us that gives us alerts, it used to be you had seconds to get to a shelter. Now we have a pre alert saying there will be an alert in a few in two to three minutes. And then there's another alert and you get to go to a shelter. Now, what's the risk here? The risk here is A, as just happened a week or two ago, actually last week, a Houthi rocket could make it through the defenses and land in Israel. And that could be in Jerusalem because they're not so precisely targeted. But B, more likely when they have an alert here, it covers a huge swath of the country because if they take out the missile while on route, it could be shrapnel and debris that's deadly that falls. Obviously, Obviously, much less deadly than a direct explosion, so it's worth doing. But it does mean that our lives are interrupted. But I will say that it tends to be more, I don't know how to say this, it's not, shouldn't be normal. It still feels like a Western society. But, you know, we walk into stairwells or we go to a bomb shelter and we're woken up in the middle of the night now by sirens fairly regularly here. Still, that is the new normal here in Jerusalem.
SPEAKER 07 :
A follow-up question to that, because you did talk about the military action, and we know that last night that Israel launched an attack in Gaza on Mohamed Senwar, who was the brother of Yahya Senwar, who was killed earlier by the IDF. And they haven't been able to confirm whether or not he was taken out by this attack, but it would be another major victory at dismantling the leadership of that horrific terrorist organization that has been plaguing Israel with their terror for so long. What would the implications be if it turns out that they have gotten yet another high leadership, especially in the military wing of Hamas at this time?
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It's a great question. I think it's a balance. In other words, Israel is concerned that at some point, President Trump, who wants a peace deal, is going to pull them back, possibly. Now, there's no sign that he's going to do it publicly, but there is a concern here that there's a lot more work to get done because Gaza, well, Hamas is obviously pure evil. But the thing is, It's hard to identify, it's impossible, frankly, to identify any other organization in public life in Gaza that's not equally evil, right? The people who came over on October 7th, a fraction were Hamas. The rest were people who were other terrorist groups and then just regular citizens who support these terrorist groups. And it's hard to find anyone in Gaza who don't support these terrorist groups. And so these implications are Israel keeps on focusing on Hamas because the world knows that sort of was identified as the ones who launched the war as the government of... of Gaza, but it's still a morass. There's still, it's really impossible to coexist with them. And so part of this has to do with the whole geopolitical situation now where we have the president in terms of Saudi Arabia is very powerful. The balance of power there versus Iran, which Israel weakened Iran and thereby strengthened Saudi Arabia. Now, Saudi Arabia has never been a warm friend to Israel. It's been an enemy, but it's also had a lot of side dealings because they've had a shared interest. And Donald Trump seeks to up that ante and up the interest so that there will be nash you know naturalized normalized relations the problem is that the saudis are going to push very hard against that and want a lot of things that won't necessarily be in israel's best interest plus there's syria at play because that whole country has collapsed now and so there are many forces there and what the president is looking at is a brand new world where his peacemaking and diplomacy could reshape the middle east the question is really here in israel What might be the cost? What might be the benefits? And those are still in process. It could be, honestly, it could be the most beneficial future. It could be an entirely new world, or it could be the opposite. It really depends very much on Israel's strength in negotiating versus, for example, the Saudis.
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And Jeff, I wanted to actually get right into that as we see President Trump yesterday in Saudi Arabia, today in Qatar. This is a different type of Middle East trip for a U.S. president. This is the first U.S. president to go to Qatar, for better or for worse. They are a U.S. ally. However, there is a lot of issues with that alliance. As we know, they have... given shelter to the leadership of Hamas. We also know that to some degree that was a strategic move to be able to allegedly keep an eye on them. But we also know how October 7th turned out. Needless to say, it's very complex. Everyone knows the Middle East is the most complex region in the world. And one of the major reasons why peace between countries is so elusive for thousands of years. This isn't a new idea. However, you do see President Trump, the negotiator that he is, going and genuinely wanting peace in the world, wanting to end war, wanting to end bloodshed and killing. We also know the strained relationship that has been talked about in the media, that it's not as friendly as you said the other day, maybe, but that is at least a lot better than saying it's not as antagonistic as it was under the Biden administration. But really... Israel, what do you think Israel needs to do that as President Trump looks to expand on the Abraham Accords, which were a big triumph of his first term? What does Israel need to do right now to ensure that it isn't a lopsided negotiation where Saudi Arabia, who is making President Trump look like a king there? They definitely know how to play to the audience that is before them. What does Israel need to do to make sure that this is a negotiation where they aren't getting the bad end of a deal?
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So there's a lot there. And, you know, Jay, obviously, Jay Sekulow likes saying that it's nine-dimensional chess, and it is, in terms of policy and diplomacy and politics here in the Middle East. Okay, well, let's go back to the beginning of the segment where Logan asked about or mentioned Idan Alexander, the last American Israeli hostage to be released or to be left that is now released. But again, there are 58 other hostages that we know of that were waiting for their release as well. And there was a big controversy here in Israel because it was reported that he would be flying to Qatar. And people were outraged by that because no one here sees Qatar as a friend at all. They see it as a very self-interested enemy, which has played a game over successive American administrations. It played a very different game under Obama than under Trump than under Biden, now under Trump. And it always tries to play this game. We have a Ford military base there, but a lot of people want it gone. Qatar is not our friend. Qatar has been hosting the terrorists who launched October 7th and hiding them. It is a terroristic enemy supporter. There's no question about it, but it's trying to survive. It also has to worry about Iran, and now less so thanks to Israel's military activity against Iran, and thanks to the fact that Donald Trump isn't like Biden and Obama before him, really propping up Iran the same way, the regime. And so Qatar itself is now trying to triangulate as are the Saudis. So what does Israel have to do here? Well, Israel has to recognize it is a new world. And that Israel, if Israel, the stronger Israel is, the stronger it stakes out its claim, not just to the sliver of land now called Israel, but to the entirety of the indigenous Jewish Holy Land, which includes a great portion of, for example, Syria and Lebanon, which we need for the protective area to be separated from the hostile forces that want to destroy Israel and the Jewish people. Well, those were historically, biblically, legally, morally, legally and morally, by the way, also the Jewish people's. Now, the state of Israel accepted a much narrower sliver of land. Israel should, in my opinion, be much more aggressively saying, all of this should be up for discussion. Those borders were drawn by Europeans, colonialists on the way out in the 20th century. Well, those borders have collapsed. Those countries were not stable. Israel is stable because it stands alone as a Jewish state. And so other countries need to stand alone. There are Christian states in the region that need to be founded potentially. So the more aggressive Israel is, the more they'll have a chance against the Saudis and the Qataris. The weaker they are, the more they seek approval, the more danger it's going to be for them. I'll say something else. You know, audiences like ACLJ's, those Americans who largely did support because of support for life and other social issues and because of the background in the Bible are more likely have been Trump supporters than, for example, Biden supporters. Really, their voices need to be heard as well, which is Israel's survival is at stake. All these other Arab nations, there are dozens of them. OK, they're massive. Their survival is not at stake. This is the one Jewish state. Its survival absolutely is at stake. And the more aggressive Israel can be, the more noise that Israel supporters and Jewish state supporters make in America, the better it will be because Donald Trump is sensitive to that. The Republicans are sensitive to that.
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Sorry, Jeff, not to cut you off. We are just running out of time. We'll be right back. I told you it'd be a packed show. It was. We had so many great guests, so many great moments, but now we get to hear from the most important voice in the room, and that's you. We got a few lines open, so if you want to call in, this is the last chance to do it for the day at 1-800-684-3110. If you're watching online, by the way, if you're watching on YouTube... I encourage you to hit that subscribe button. It seems like, hey, Glitch Gang, feels like we don't really need you anymore because it seems like we have fixed the problem finally. Let us know, though. Make sure of that. Put it in the comments. Know we appreciate all of your support through that sort of trying time for those who have been watching on YouTube. But it seems like we have figured out the issue, and thank you to our team for working on that so hard. Let's go to Paul, who is calling. On YouTube, from YouTube, not on YouTube, from YouTube in Virginia. Go ahead, Paul, with your question or comment.
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Yes, hi. My question is about the segment where that New Jersey facility had congressmen who kind of broke their way into the facility. They do have oversight. They do have the right to go in and visit, but there are protocols. There's guidelines. I've seen the guidelines. The Department of Homeland Security put those on X. They are not to bring in phones, knives, any kind of contraband. So there's a check in procedure. And there's also an issue of they're not supposed to be in with a mixed group. The mayor was there. There were other protesters, I understand. So they violated that. They're supposed to follow the directions of the officers. And they didn't. They were pushing them.
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So publicity stunts. I think everyone knows this, but I think you're right. Of course, I think there should be able to have some sort of oversight that actually our representatives can go in and see what's happening in these facilities. Make sure they are up to snuff. Make sure they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. I don't think any of us have a problem with that. I don't think you should have a problem with that. It's when they violate the law to push forward their narrative. Again, they're the moral heroes in this, even if it goes against and causes potential violence. This is totally a publicity stunt, a photo op, Will.
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That's right. And when you hear from the minority leader of the House, Hakeem Jeffries, how he phrased this is it should be a leader of a party saying, We will talk to our members. We want to see how this shakes out. But our members should not be violating any laws in their furtherance of their oversight as members of the House of Representatives of the United States. instead he has a completely different tone and this was at his weekly press uh conference let's go ahead and play byte eight so you can hear how the democrat leader in the house is framing if anything happens to members of congress by date mr leader good afternoon
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What would you, your statement the other day after there was this incident in Newark, you said they better not touch our members. Correct. What happens if they were to go and arrest these members or if they would try to sanction them during the House of Representatives? They'll find out. What would you do? They'll find out. Of course, I mean, doesn't that broach a... They'll find out. Doesn't that go across... That's a red line. What's the red line, though? I mean, I know we have the speech... It's a red line. It's very clear.
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It's a red line. It's very clear. They'll find out. It's so aggressive and threatening when this is the same party. that was so loudly proclaiming that a president of the United States should not have any immunity of any sort for official acts while they are president of the United States. That is what they have put on the record dozens, hundreds, maybe thousands of times as a party. Now, when the question is legitimately talking about If there was an arrest attempt of members of Congress, and now just like this judge, the arrest attempt of the judge was because of alleged crime she has now been indicted on. Yeah. If it were something like that, he's saying they better not touch our members. And what would happen if you were to?
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They'll find out. Exactly. They're putting, again, threatening language into there. It doesn't sound not dissimilar to Chuck Schumer's. The whirlwind will be on you, Kavanaugh. And then, of course, they're getting death threats. This is the kind of verbiage they like to use. And again, to whip up their supporters. I want to go ahead and take a couple more calls real quick. Tammy's been on hold for a very long time. Tammy, sorry for the delay. You're on the air.
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Hi there. First, I want to know how your dad is. But I have questions about Qatar. I've heard about Qatar in the news with Trump, but before that, it was all about Qatar funding the protesters and attacking the students and just harassing and terrorizing our citizens if they were from Israel. And I was just wondering, how does that all work?
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How does it square up? I think... I think Tammy, first, to respond to your question about my dad, he was on the show yesterday. You should go listen to that. He's been on about once a week for the last few weeks here, but busy guy. But Tammy, when it comes to Cutter, It's an interesting situation. I can't say it's all black and white or clear. Certainly, as you can go listen to Jeff Balaban's point of view from ACLJ Jerusalem, who was just on, you're going to hear probably a very different version of what their relationship is with Israel based on what their relationship is with the United States. Of course, technically.
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They are an ally. Well, the largest U.S. military installation in the Middle East is in Doha, which is the capital of Qatar. And so there is a strategic partnership there with a big, very large Air Force base there that was used in our campaign against ISIS and other terror groups. So. strategic partnership in that way. They also are one of the largest funders of universities in America, foreign funders, and their ideology not always in line with what America first would be. Now, the president is there signing investment deals. I would say mostly the alliance there is military and defense related, but not necessarily sharing the same values with the United States.
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President Trump has been very clear that his goal is to stop the killing. Overall, that can be said in Ukraine and Russia, that can be said in Israel and Gaza, that he just wants no more bloodshed. And I think that's probably the right move. I think that's probably the Christian move, if you want to say, from the sense of the idea of saying, we want the death to end. Now getting there is maybe a little bit harder than just that. Let's go ahead quickly and go to Wendy. Wendy, you're on the air.
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Yes. I wanted to ask with the judge and the person's lawyer, defense lawyer, isn't it abating, I'm sorry, aiding and abetting a criminal? Why isn't the lawyer being held accountable for anything? I don't know.
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If the judge tells you to leave and you're the lawyer of that person, the person, you may leave.
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Right. Yeah. Now, we don't know all the facts because all of the charging document was focused on the actions of the judge. And it does describe that the judge was saying that that That case was adjourned for the day and said, you go out this way. I don't want to speculate on the involvement or the intent or anything of the attorney. And I feel like if the Department of Justice had reason to believe that there was an avenue there, they would have pursued it. They went very aggressively against the judge. I feel like, Wendy, to your answer, if they felt like that was something that had occurred and that they could allege that, they would have.
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All right, I want to say thank you, Wendy. Thank you everyone who called in. Again, if you want to support the work of the ACLJ, it's been a big week of wins already. Thanks to our media team and our legal team. You saw the HHS get involved because of the ACLJ. That's a result of the ACLJ's direct work. They went to the website, they saw a blog, and they're taking action for pro-life nurses and pro-life technicians. Got the big win in Massachusetts where we're going to proceed on. It's not over yet by any means, but at least it's still alive. In Ohio, you saw that victory. You saw one of our clients on the show as well. This is the real work of the ACLJ that's going on beyond the walls of this broadcast. But know how much this broadcast and that go hand in hand and why it's important to have both. So go to ACLJ.org, make your donation today. If you become a champion, do it right now.
Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial invites you on a comprehensive journey through the U.S. tax landscape as it will stand in 2025. This episode is a treasure trove of practical information crafted to aid both young professionals and seasoned retirees. Learn about pivotal tax reforms and tools available to minimize your liability, ensuring your hard-earned money stretches well into your golden years. Understanding fiscal policies is no small feat, but with Al's expertise, complex legislation becomes clearer. Al highlights significant tax laws, offering strategies for converting traditional IRAs to Roth, a move that could yield considerable tax benefits over time. Listen in to discover how to align your financial approach with upcoming legislative changes, ensuring both stability and flexibility in your retirement planning.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
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Welcome to another program of Retirement Unpacked. I want to thank you for tuning in. I have really good information for you this afternoon. And before I dive into that, I would like to let you know how you're able to reach me. If you're driving, you can contact KLZ at they'll put you in touch with me through telephone or email they have good ways of doing that if you're excuse me not driving you can contact my office at three zero three seven four four one one two eight and sometimes it goes to voicemail but I answer my voicemails very promptly Okay, I've talked about this before, but I don't think anyone who's listening can believe that they've learned too much about taxes on listening to Retirement Unpacked. So I have some of the tax changes from 2025 that you may or may not be familiar aware of, but I'd certainly like you to be aware of those. I know we've already completed our taxes. That was last month. But it's good to know about some of these things because throughout the year, is when you'll be making choices. You'll be getting your checks from the company. If you work for a company, you have a W-2. If you're self-employed, you'll understand some of those things. So I think it's really important to know about those. One of the forms that has changed, there's something called the 1099-K. Now, you may be familiar with the 1099, the basic form. That's when you work for a company and you're not an employee. You're like a contractor. You get a 1099 that declares how much income you've made from that particular business. But with all of the online forms, And purveyors such as PayPal, Venmo, and Square, and so forth, there are special rules. So if you are a business who does business through PayPal, Venmo, or Square, you need to pay attention to this because the 1099-K rule, uh requirements about minimums and things of that nature before a 1099k is sent out has changed so i would say you need to check into that and i'm not going into all the details but i will point out in later years after 2026 anyone who uses one of those platforms and has income greater than six hundred dollars then you will get a 1099k Brokers need to report proceeds from digital asset sales that occur in 2025. Digital assets, of course, are Bitcoin and the nature of that business is the government wants their share of the profits people make. And there's a form called a 1099 I'm assuming that stands for digital assets. Now that's a form that's going to be sent out in 2026. And since digital currency is a mechanism where some people have made significant amounts of money, the government wants their share of that income that you've made. Now, there have been some really considerable natural disasters in the past couple of years. And one of the things that has changed is if you were affected by one of these disasters from 2021 to 2024, you can deduct personal disaster losses even if you don't itemize deductions. Now, the standard deduction for couples went up to $30,000 per year. And that may even go up higher than that. So the important thing is this permits people to write off these uninsured losses for these disasters, even if your itemized deductions for the disaster, if they don't exceed that standard deduction. So that's really something important to know for anyone that you know that falls into that category if you have friends in, you know, North Carolina or Florida or wherever you've had any of those disasters in the past. So capital gains have the zero rate goes all the way up to $96,000. So that means if you have a capital gain, but your income is below $96,000, you don't have to pay any tax on that. capital gain and that's for married couples it's 48 350 for singles and 64 750 for head of households and then it jumps to a 15 percent rate uh all the way to uh 533 000 for single filers after which it goes up to uh 20 percent And again, I mentioned the standard deduction goes all the way to $30,000. And if you are or if one spouse is 65 years or older, you can add $1,600 to that standard deduction of $30,000. Singles can take a $15,000 standard deduction. It's up as high as $17,000 if you are age 65 or older. Some other things that are really important, some minimum payouts for IRAs and inherited IRAs. there is a 10-year clean-out rule that applies to IRAs if you inherit them after 2019. So in other words, let's say if your mother or father has an IRA and he or she passes on and you inherit that, you have to empty that out within 10 years after death. Now, spouses and minor children or they're chronically disabled, that does not apply. So be informed about the rules if you inherit an IRA because it's really important that that IRA be cleaned out within a 10-year period. Now, if it's a Roth IRA, It even needs to be cleaned out more quickly, like over five years. But the nice thing about Roth IRA is the owner of that Roth IRA, he's not subject to those required minimum distributions. So that account can grow quite nicely while the original owner is living. Some other things, the IRA qualified charitable distribution cap, what that means is the most you can pay out from your IRA to a charitable institution as part of your required minimum distribution is $108,000 for this year. And you only need to be age 70 1⁄2 or older in order to qualify for that. That's called a QCD, and I've talked on my show about these. This is one of the ways you can get a charitable deduction even if you... are using the standard deductions and for couples that's thirty thousand dollars and that means if you give ten thousand dollars to your church if that comes directly from your ira and goes to the church or to the non-profit of your choosing As long as that is up to or less than your required minimum distribution, you don't have to declare that as income, even if it doesn't exceed the standard deduction. So there are some real important things that we need to pay attention to. And that's just one of them. The limits you can put into a retirement plan have also changed. For example, the maximum 401k contribution is up to $23,500, but if you are between 60 and 63, you can add $11,250 more and that's $7,500 for folks born before 1976. Now the cap on most simple IRAs rises to $16,500 plus an additional $3,500 for people who are over age 50. Now, there are certain ceilings on Roth IRA payments. Those have gone out if someone's adjusted gross income is above $236,000. That's grown to $246,000 for couples and $150,000 for singles. And basically what that means is in order to contribute to a Roth, You are not permitted to unless your income falls below that amount that I was talking about. Quite a few other things have also changed. For example, the annual cap. On deductible payments to health savings accounts, it rises in 2025 to $4,300 for account owners with a self-only coverage and $8,550 for people who have family coverage. Now, for individuals before 1971, they can put in an additional $1,000. and the eligibility for hsa is restricted you must have a high deductible health plan in order to qualify for that and in 2025 that means it has to be 1650 or 3300 for family coverage so those are some things to think about with regard to health savings accounts social security the annual wage base in 2025 has gone to $176,000. That's a $7,500 increase. The Social Security tax rate on employers and employees remains at 6.2%. Both of them pay the 1.4% Medicare tax on all compensation. Now that has no cap. So if someone makes a half million dollars a year, they'll be paying that Medicare tax on that entire amount. Medicare surtax on wages and self-employment income over $200,000 for singles and $250,000 for couples. The surtax doesn't hit employers, only individuals whose income we just described there. Mileage rate for businesses is 70 cents per mile in 2025. Now, the mileage allowance for medical travel and military moves is 21 cents a mile, and the charitable giving rate fixed by law remains at 40%. 14 cents per mile. So a lot of things to be thinking about with respect to these 2025 tax changes. Now, most of those tax changes are part of the bill that was passed some time back which is called the tax cuts and jobs act of 2017 which is the law that we're under right now with regard to taxation and after the break i will talk about the tax law which has not yet been passed but it's going to be part of what President Trump describes as the big, beautiful bill. There are some nice enhancements to the tax code in that bill. We'll talk about it right after the break.
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Welcome back to Retirement Unpacked. We were just talking about some of the changes in 2025, and I know I had an earlier show about this, but I don't think any of us can sit back and think, gee, I know too much about the tax code. Unless you're a CPA or someone who really works with this every single day, these are a lot of things that most of us don't know about, so having additional information is often necessary. Very, very helpful. Now the tax law that we're in right now as far as federal taxes is called the Tax Cuts and Job Act of 2017. And that's where President Trump lowered taxes and the previous rates in just about every bracket were slightly higher. And once he implemented that, the thresholds of taxation increased just a little bit each year. So we're in a pretty favorable circumstance right now. And the big beautiful bill, as he's been calling it, what that would do, it would prevent us from reverting back to what the tax rates were before 2017. Now, if this big, beautiful bill were not passed, 62% of taxpayers would be paying more. So the previous tax rates were higher than what they were in 2017 when the rates were cut. And if this big, beautiful bill were not passed and those tax cuts were not made permanent, as I said, 62% of the people would be paying more. Well, let's see what that looks like. Well, the standard deduction, which right now is $30,000, it would be made permanent. That's part of this big, beautiful bill also. So that means for couples, it's $30,000. They would add to that $2,000 for people filing jointly and $1,000 for those who are filing singly. the child tax credit would be increased up to $2,500. Now those of you listening, I know most of you know the difference between a deduction and a credit, but essentially a tax credit is the alternative to paying a tax. So if you have a child tax credit of $2,500, then that's $2,500 you can deduct directly from the tax that you might owe. So if someone has four children and this big beautiful bill were passed, then he could subtract $10,000 or she from the tax that is owed. So a credit goes directly against the tax that owed. And a deduction, of course, what that does, that reduces the amount of taxable income. So a credit is always more attractive because that goes directly against the tax that you owe. One of the changes that's coming in what's called the Big Beautiful Bill is a repeal of some of these green tax subsidies. Those are the subsidies that people are getting who purchased electric vehicles. And there may be some language in there. I haven't read the entire bill, but there may be language in there also for solar heating of homes and some other green tax subsidies are out there. But the most common ones with which we are familiar are are those that affect electric vehicles. So in the new bill, those are going to be repealed. Now, I know many of you have been paying attention. It's hard not to hear about it. Some of the things that President Trump has talked about. One of the things that he talked about is that CHIP income will be not taxed, which means it will be deductible. And that's going to be very attractive for people in industries where they rely on tips. Now, there is an exception to that. That's for people who are highly compensated. Something else that's very attractive, even if you do not itemize deductions, you will be able to deduct interest paid on an auto loan if the automobile is manufactured in the United States. Now, that doesn't mean it has to be a Ford or a Chevy or a Jeep. It could be a BMW or it could be a Mercedes because it could be a Toyota because all three of those vehicles have manufacturing plants in the United States. So in order to have your... auto loan interest deducted. The only requirement is that it be manufactured in the United States. Excuse me. It doesn't have to be necessarily an American vehicle. Now, you may have also heard that overtime is not going to be taxed. Well, it's not quite as attractive as that. Overtime pay, there will be 20% of it will be able to be deducted up to a maximum of $20,000 for those who file jointly and $10,000 for those who file singly. Now, this is a deduction that people can take even if their deductions don't exceed the standard deduction. So in other words, as an example, if a couple has a standard deduction of $30,000, and maybe one of them made uh ten thousand dollars in overtime pay they would be able to deduct uh twenty percent of that uh when they file their taxes so again uh and that's half of that for singles uh ten thousand dollars And that is part of a different bill. It's called the Overtime Wages Tax Relief Act. And it's not quite as attractive as no tax on overtime pay, but it will be much more attractive than what they do now. And one of the reasons or the impetus behind this is many people who work for hourly wages and difficult jobs, they work overtime so they can bring more money in and sometimes that will put them into a higher tax bracket. So rather than putting hard workers into a higher tax bracket, this will make part of that overtime income tax deductible. And again, that's part of the Overtime Wages Tax Relief Act. Interestingly, there is one state in the union that does not require state income taxes to be paid on overtime. And that state is Alabama. I found that to be quite, quite interesting. Now, what do these things mean for us? Or what kinds of things can we do to minimize taxes as we're moving toward retirement or into retirement? And I'm not going to too much beat a dead horse into the ground, but I often talk about converting traditional IRA to Roth. And the reason I think this is a good idea is because as long as someone doesn't have a very short life expectancy, as long as that's not the case, then people have the opportunity of paying tax on the seed rather than the harvest. For example, if someone who is 78 years old chooses to convert $200,000 of an IRA to Roth, let's say their average tax might be 20%. That leaves this individual, this man or this woman, $160,000 after tax. Well, after 20 years, If it grows at 8%, which the stock market average over 50 years is about 9%, so it doesn't take the most savvy investor high skill to make 8%, that $160,000 in 20 years at age 78 would grow to $745,000. Now, how much do you have to pay in RMDs on that? Zero, because Roth IRAs do not have RMDs. You can take that money out on your schedule, not the IRS's table. And if you decide not to take anything out, that just continues to grow and grow tax-free. For example, at age 78, we said it's $745,000. What about age 83? by age 83 it's grown to one million ninety five thousand dollars by age 85 it has grown to 1.2 million dollars and on that 1.2 million only 40 000 was paid in taxes many years earlier If you'd like to have a conversation about paying less in tax as you make the transition to retirement, call my office at 303-744-1128 and we can arrange for a conversation. God bless you. Thank you for listening. Let's continue to pray for our leaders and the folks in the Middle East. Bye now.
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Thank you for listening to Retirement Unpacked with your host, Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial.
Join Michael Bailey in this enlightening episode of Mobile Estate Planning, where he reflects on the complexities of life, the importance of looking towards the future, and the practicalities of estate planning. Michael candidly shares personal stories, weaving them with philosophical musings, painting a picture of how past, present, and future intersect in unexpected ways. Throughout the episode, listeners are invited to consider how they can better prepare for the future through thoughtful estate planning, with insights into managing assets and overcoming life's uncertainties.
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Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
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All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning, where we're trying to do something besides just leave your family alone. You are listening to 560 KLZ AM, 100.7 FM, possibly the KLZ 560 radio app. Or if you're Luke, you get to listen before everybody else. Because as fast as radio signals travel, they do not travel instantaneously. So Luke gets to hear it first. I mean, everything we do is in the past. Because as soon as I say something and it gets to you, it was spoken in the past. So we're all living in the past. It's very terrible. It's horrible. It's not really that bad. But I'm looking out here, looking out the window and watching kind of some rain or something roll in. So if you're listening... to a replay of the show, I think it plays on the weekends on Sundays or something like that, there may not be rain rolling in because it's in the past. So there's different pasts that are available. You know, if I'm looking at Luke, I can see Luke. But whatever Luke is doing, by the time I see it, it's already in the past. So we're not to become too philosophical about things, but people are like, oh, you need to live in the present. I'm like, ha-ha, I can out-argue with you. You're living in the past. It's not a good way to make friends or influence people, so don't try it. But it's a silly, funny way to start the show that I didn't even think I was going to do until it came up just now. So phone number to talk to me on the air is 477-5600. And again, that's 477-5600. And my direct line is 394-6887. And once again, that's 394-6887. So if we're all living in the past, But we're looking forward to the future of what do we need to do in the future. That's estate planning. Because living in the past, you can't see everything. But we look towards the future. We're like, oh, what do we want to do in the future? How would we want to accomplish things? It's part of why when you're growing up and learning how to set goals and accomplish things, you get to learn what you need to do to make things happen. I mean, I don't... I don't know that I had necessarily a timeline for my entire life. It wasn't, oh, well, I'm going to graduate high school at 18. Well, that was easy enough to do because there were the years and I didn't get held back. So I just kind of kept going. Like, oh, well, you know, I'll graduate from college. But, you know, my college journey was going to be different from most people's. Partially because I knew that at age 19, I would take two years to go as a missionary for my church. So start college at 18, do a freshman year, two years as a missionary, come back, three more years of college. So let's see here, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23. at graduate college when I'm 24. And at that point, when I was in high school or freshman, I thought I wanted to be, my freshman year, I was a chemical engineering major. So I thought I would be a chemical engineer and go do all the things and apparently save the world through chemical engineering, which I don't know if that's really possible to save the world through chemical engineering. It might be. My now 16-year-old daughter, when she was very young, she was talking about how they were going to take over the world. And maybe she'd been watching a cartoon where somebody thought they were going to take over the world. I don't know. But she's like, we're going to take over the world. And my wife said, well, how are you going to do that? She thought about it for a minute. She said, trigonometry. Now, I do know that trigonometry is usually the preferred methodology for taking over the world. I mean, you know, that's usually how, that's all that Genghis Khan did was, you know, he performed trigonometry and he practiced the ancient art of trigonometry, you know. And that's what Alexander the Great used. He just rediscovered trigonometry. And then the Ottoman Empire and, you know, even the Soviets tried to use trigonometry. The problem is that the Soviets did not understand that the United States also understood trigonometry. So in a battle of trigonometry, you come to a trigonometry stalemate. And a trigonometry stalemate is a lot less dangerous than a nuclear stalemate because in a trigonometry stalemate, you just kind of stare at a triangle and don't quite know what to do with it because it's a triangle and it's not going to do anything. Now, if you take a triangle and use it properly, it can become a ramp or it can become some sort of fulcrum or something like that. So you can use a trigonometry stalemate. to create things that may in fact help you take over the world. But, you know, two triangles staring at each other is a little bit less dangerous than two world nuclear powers trying to, you know, going for, trying to not destroy each other. So, you know, trigonometry may not have been the best strategy to take over the world. Now, I mean, a cartoon from when I grew up, the Pinky and the Brain, there were two lab mice. One had been genetically enhanced and had a super brilliant brain, and one was crazy and insane. It was Pinky and the Brain, the brain supposedly being the brilliant one and Pinky being the crazy one. But if you watch it often enough, you can convince yourself that they might switch roles from time to time. But every day, every episode, Pinky would ask Brain, so Brain, what do you want to do tonight? And Brain would respond, try to take over the world. And they always had some sort of scheme when they were going to do so. Well, my schemes to take over the world, I don't know that I ever thought I would take over the world. It just wasn't my thing. I figured the world was large enough and there were also other people and they could live here too. But, you know, maybe I did. I don't know. Maybe I thought I could take over the, you know, when I was young and dreamed of taking over the basketball world and being the next Michael Jordan. Because, you know, clearly Michael Bailey and Michael Jordan, hey, we've got the same first name. And as Spike Lee taught us, it's got to be the shoes. But I never did have Jordan's shoes. So apparently I was not talented enough to take over the basketball world. And taking over the law world, man, I don't even know how you'd begin to do that. The law is supposed to be designed so that we don't take over everything. We can all live our own lives. But in the future, my plan was mostly to make it through school. I hoped that I would find somebody who would like me enough to marry me, which did happen, so that's exciting. And then I could have children of my own, which also did happen. Woo-hoo! And, you know, kind of got to that point. And then I was like, well, you know, now that I'm in the midst of having children and raising them. And, you know, a few weeks ago I went and picked up my 19-year-old from college and brought her home. And last Sunday we put her on an airplane so she could fly down to Florida to spend a week with her roommates because they're about to go on missions for the church. And she's going to go back to school tomorrow. So she's off, you know, exploring Florida and enjoying her, you know, her time as a 19-year-old that doesn't have some of the same obligations that I found out exist for adults. You know, I mean, I think growing up you're like, oh... While I grow up, I'm an adult and I can do anything I want and the adults can't tell me what to do. And then you become an adult and you're like, oh, there's other people who tell adults what to do. And I mean, if I say, hey, I can do what I want. I'm like, I can live in this house if I want. I can not pay the rent, the mortgage if I want. I don't have to buy food. But there are consequences to those decisions. So if I don't pay the mortgage, the bank will probably come and take the house and tell me that I can't live there anymore and kick me out. If I don't buy food, here's the easy consequence, I can't eat. I suppose we can grow food in the backyard and all that type of stuff. But still, there are these consequences here that come along with life. And so as I look towards the future, some things I had planned out, some things I didn't have planned out. some things have gone the way i expected some things have not gone the way i expected but as you plan for the future you look at it and you say okay well i want it to go this way and sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't so we may be talking about the future but you are listening to mobile estate planning with michael bailey here on 560 klz am also heard on 100.7 fm or the klz 560 radio app Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again that's 720-394-6887. So if you want to talk to me in the future on that direct line, you can. If you want to talk to me in the present on that direct line, I'm sorry, I'm busy talking on the air, so I'm not going to be able to answer your phone call and talk on the air. If you want to talk to me on the air, you have to call the studio line. It's just how it works. So as you look towards the future... I look at the future, and I've gotten my 19-year-old to become an adult. And she went off to school. She's done great. Off to Florida and done great. She'll come back and start. She's finishing up her education. But I also have a 16-year-old. We're trying to get my 16-year-old to become an adult in a productive member of society. She is well on her way. She's doing great. My 12-year-old is still in process, and he's well on his way, too, but not quite the same level of development that I have from a 16-year-old. He's still got four years, right? So hopefully he'll be 13 in June, so three years. But still, you know, I... So that's kind of what I'm focused on right now is helping my kids learn how to succeed in school and life and whatever sports they happen to play. My 16-year-old's a volleyball player. My 12-year-old is taking a liking to basketball. He's been a little bit disappointed in the outcome of the last two playoff games for the Nuggets. You know, just watching them kind of, you know, you know giving hope and then dashing it you know that's that's that's the wrong way to do things you know and i realize that my well-being does not depend on how the denver nuggets perform in a in a basketball game but it is more fun when they win that's for sure I'm not like, oh, no, I'm so sad and depressed today. I was listening to a sports talk radio show as I was driving this morning. And he's like, oh, I don't understand how you're not just mad and angry. I'm like, probably because Denver Nuggets basketball does not dictate how my life will be lived. And I realized he was saying he was upset. I'm like, yeah, you do sports talk radio. That's what you do. That's what consumes you. That's what you're all about. So I can see how you would be more disappointed and more angry than someone like me who just enjoys watching the game. But I'm trying to get my kids to grow up to be good, productive members of society and just good people all around. And I think I'm doing an okay job with that. Fortunately, I have my wife to help me with that. So we've got both of us together and there's certain things that She can do really well in certain things that I can do really well and we recognize that we are much better together as a couple trying to do that than figuring it out all on our own, all by ourselves. But when we went to pick up my daughter, she apparently had been following our progress because my wife's phone has Snapchat on it and so she could follow, my daughter could track her location via snapchat and so she saw us coming and knew where we were going and knew when we'd gotten to the so then we parked and we were walking in to help her you know pack up some stuff and clean and such things and she came out of her dorm room and as we were walking up the sidewalk there was a like a little grassy hill that came from where her the entrance to her dorm was and the direction we're going so And she came and she saw us and she kind of ran down the hill as fast as she could. And it was kind of cute. And she came and gave us a big old hug. And we hadn't seen her in four months, so I can see why that was a good thing. But it was kind of fun to have my fully capable, functioning 19-year-old child want to run down a hill as fast as possible to hug her mom and her dad. I'm like, yep, that's cool. It was kind of a neat thing. I'm like, well, gee, I haven't upset her too much, and she still likes me, so that's a good thing. But fully, this is a kid who, for the eight months that she was off at school, I mean, she came home for Thanksgiving and came home for Christmas. But for the rest of the time that she was there, she... bought her own food. She made her own meals because she was in a cooking dorm. You know, she navigated her way through college. She, you know, her freshman year, she got a job as a research assistant where she was doing a research project on the professor she was working for is doing some sort of cancer research. So she was working on that, all of these things that she's learned how to do and learned how to accomplish and all those wonderful things. But still, when my wife and I got there, she wanted to come give us a big hug because she was still our little girl. And that's fair. I don't think of her as being, oh, you're just my little girl. We can't ever do anything. I'm like, no. You want to go up to Florida? Cool. Go to Florida. Have fun. Your roommate who lives in Florida, her parents will pick you up from the airport, and you'll be fine. It's not like we're sending her off going, hey, good luck. Have fun. Navigate Florida. Fortunately, they still speak English down there. It's part of the United States. Good luck. We sent her, too. Europe last year as part of a senior trip with her uncle who they spent a lot of time in Spain and then in Italy and in Spain, the uncle who speaks more or less fluent Spanish could have a Good conversations. My daughter, who doesn't speak Spanish quite as well as the fluent uncle, she could get some. In Italy, there was less Italian to be spoken since they don't speak Italian. But still. So that's the current focus of what I'm trying to do is get my kids raised and everything. Part of that is that we need to have money to pay for the house and pay for food and things like that. So my chosen business is estate planning. But estate planning, we're looking more towards the future of what happens to our stuff that we've accumulated when we die. And we're planning for the future of, I would like to leave those assets that I managed to accumulate to my children because they're my children and I'd like to benefit them. That's for everybody out there who's a parent, I think we do a lot of things that benefit our children. That's just kind of the nature of being a parent is you do things that benefit your children. So estate planning is one of those things that benefits our children. And we look at the future and we say, okay, well, in the future, I would like to have my house paid off. It would be a good thing. And so if my wife and I die in the future, which we most certainly will, then the value of the house, hopefully by the time we die, my kids will have their own houses. and their own spouses and possibly their own children. But I would like to have what I have been able to accumulate and been able to gather over my lifetime, I'd like to be able to pass that on to my children and my family. Now, it's because if all three of my kids have their own houses and their own spouses and kids of their own and then I die, I don't necessarily think that they need to be like, oh, well, let's go move into mom and dad's house. It's the one we grew up in. We should live there. Wow. the spouses will not have grown up in that house so it might not be the same to them so in that case we take and we sell the house divide the money three ways among the kids and pass it on to them and then they could probably use the proceeds and the money to help pay off their own house you know craziness weirdness amazingness here but you know in my case the Because I have the three kids and because I want to do everything I can to teach them how to be good people and how to be productive members of society, and I think I've been decently successful with that, I think that I would rather give them the assets that I've been able to accumulate if I have any left over. It's not always assured that you're going to have assets left over. Right now, I'm still in the accumulating assets phase of life, and I'm trying to grow those assets and I'm trying to save them and use them wisely. I'm paying off the house so that eventually I'll have a paid off house and not continue to have to pay on it all the time. At least that's my goal. But sometimes it doesn't work out that there's a lot of assets left at the end. And if that's the case and there's nothing to give away, then you can give away all the nothingness. But for those of us who, if we do manage to accumulate assets and want to pass them on, then we put that in an estate plan. That's something we do in the future. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM. Also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So... And why would you not have any assets when you die, you ask? Well, there's any number of reasons. One, you never had the opportunity to work and accumulate anything, so you didn't have anything ever. Or maybe you're the proverbial lazy bum that didn't do anything, where you thought that you should just kind of skate by in life and you know you'd be you should you maybe sometimes you go stand on a street corner with a sign that says need money or perhaps you you know any number of reasons perhaps you had bad luck And sometimes I've seen this with lots of people that I know where they owned a business and then the business kind of dried up or I've seen it with people who are like they do. flipping houses business. So they're like, okay, well, I'm going to flip a house, you make money, flip a house, make money. And then, you know, the most recent kind of economic downturn, where suddenly, interest rates were much higher, and people weren't buying and selling houses as often. And some of these house flipping people got caught with a couple of flips in progress, and then suddenly they went to sell the house, and they couldn't sell it for money that they'd bought it for, plus the work they'd put into it, so they were losing money on selling the house. And then suddenly they're like, oh no, now I'm out of money. Or I have a friend who he had a kind of a water business. It was like they were cleaning. They had technology where they were cleaning water. So people would buy it either for a swimming pool or then for drinking water. And they had all these cool contracts all lined up. And then the housing crisis hit. And all of the water systems that were supposed to be put in for the 10 to 12 different... communities that were going to be built, suddenly those housing communities were not built. And so all of their contracts that they had, everything that they were ready to go with, that was gonna make them a million or two dollars over the next two years, ended up costing them a million or two dollars too, because they'd kind of invested in all this infrastructure and inventory that just never, and so they were kind of, so that's what I would call bad luck. Then there's what we call poor planning, where everything you make, you spend. And I realize that for many people, living paycheck to paycheck is just kind of how life goes. And I'm not here to say, oh, well, you know, if you're... if you're out there you know barely making a buy and barely scraping by and living paycheck to paycheck well just find a cheaper apartment or just find a you know just eat less or just you know i'm not saying that at all but if uh you're if you're the kind of if you're out there and you're like oh well you know we i got a you know thousand dollar bonus at work well gee we should go buy a you know brand new tv well your brand new tv is not going to last for forever And so there's that possibility. And then there's just the expenses increase beyond what you thought they were going to. And as an example of this, I think of my paternal grandmother. So my grandparents built a house in Palo Alto, California in 1952. I think they paid like $4,900 to build it. So my grandfather died when I was in eighth grade. And grandma had had a series of strokes, and so she was kind of paralyzed on one side of her body, and grandpa helped take care of her. But then when grandpa died, grandma didn't have anybody who could take care of her. So the house that they built for $4,900 They sold for something like $750,000. It's in Palo Alto, California. This was before, you know, tech, you know, the Silicon Valley and tech revolution. So suddenly the house they had built there was way more valuable and even the $750,000 that they sold it for, the first thing that the people did who bought the house was they came in and they bulldozed it to the ground and built a new house that now if you look at, you can go on like Google Maps or Yahoo Real Estate and notice that the lot with the new house on it is worth like $4.5 or $5 million. So, you know, California real estate lottery. If you could have bought and held for a long time, you'd be rich. And those who did, they probably are. But $750,000. Now, $750,000, especially in the mid-1990s, was a decent amount of money. We were like, hey, that's going to... Somebody had said to me, oh, well, in 1992, they'd been like, here, here's $750,000. I would have been like, hey, I'm rich. I never have to work again. I can use this money and live forever off $750,000. And, you know, that would have been awesome. Well, grandma needed long-term care. Grandma needed skilled nursing care. So the $750,000 that grandma needed or that grandma had, she didn't pass away until I was a senior in college. So it was another like 10, 11 years. And that $750,000 was all spent on medical expenses for her by the time she died. Now, it was grandpa and grandma's money, and they had earned it. They had benefited from appreciation and land values for certain. But that money was there to help take care of grandma. That's what the money is for, is to take care of you. So when grandma died, there was no money for her kids to inherit. And that is perfectly understandable because the money was there to pay for her care so that she could be cared for. And her living in a skilled nursing type of facility meant that she did not have to come live with us or one of her other kids, or have her travel between all of the kids so that we would take care of Grandma. Now, my parents' house didn't quite have the right number of bedrooms. They had the right number of bedrooms for the kids and for the adults, but not an extra one for grandma. So it made perfect sense. But had grandma died with money, that's why you have an estate plan to distribute that money out. So you plan for the future. Future may not always go the way that you think it was going to go or that you would want it to go. And that's okay. But you plan for the future and for the possibility that you're giving things to your kids and uh you know if it doesn't turn out that way okay but at least you've got a plan in place and that plan can change and be flexible so thank you so much for listening to mobile estate planning with michael bailey here on 560 klz am john rush and rush reason up next so stay tuned and i'll talk to you next week thanks and bye
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Wednesday. It is the Wednesday edition of the Best Docs Now show with professional Mike.
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Good morning and welcome to the Best Stocks Now show. I think we had a little, it seems we dropped Bill there, but we're getting started this morning in terms of the futures we're looking at. We had started out positive today, getting the information up here in front of me. But in terms of where we're looking at market-wise, we've got some green still on the screen, barely, and we've got the Dow at 42,200 points. That's up 70.17%. We've got the S&P up just four points. I guess kind of a ho-hum day at the moment in terms of volatility. We've got the NASDAQ up over 19,000 now. It seems I think last week we were... Pushing 18,000 and now we're over that 19,000 range up 0.36%. The chips continue to get a bit of a certainly a kick in the pants and some tailwind from the phase one part of the China deal that Besant spoke with and doing some dealings over the weekend. But again, good morning. This is Barry Kite, planter and analyst here at Gunderson Capital. We've got Bill coming back here in just a moment. But in terms of the markets, we continue to have some green. Yesterday, another strong day. It was one of those interesting days where the day before on Monday, we've had a big move. But a lot of the chip names and magnificent seven names did not work. to participate there um of course yesterday we've we saw some of that participation we had uh nvidia which is um up today as well just on a you know kind of on a tear there um All right, and we got Bill popping in.
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I don't know what's going on today. Complete drop right at the beginning. Yeah, that's always wonderful. Well, you know what? Monday was a huge day for the cyclicals. the industrials, the financials, a lot of stuff that we don't have much exposure to. And the momentum stocks, the AI, the data center, the new sector, kind of got left behind. But yesterday... The industrials, the cyclicals, the financials had an okay day, but boy, I saw some huge momentum in AI especially. I know this deal with Saudi Arabia has helped a lot. uh the the stocks like nvidia i think the news that came out on smr which is small modular reactors was also big for the nuke sector the software stocks just absolutely blew up to the upside uh on uh yesterday and then of course today you've got some modest gains here and there but uh We might have to digest those big gains from Monday and Tuesday, especially in the NASDAQ. The NASDAQ's up about 1,000 points in two days. And like I say, one day it was the financials and industrials and retail, and the next day it was the leadership momentum stocks that really joined in the fray. And I sent out a lot of charts yesterday, a lot of messages to the subscribers, our subscribers, showing them breakouts in NVIDIA, CoreWeave, Palantir, just across the board, all those data center stocks and all of the AI stocks. that were leading the market until Liberation Day. Really, it started to happen, though, before Liberation Day. But they took it on the chin for about a 20% to 25% sell-off when he started announcing the tariffs on Canada, Mexico, etc. And now they're back in play. So go figure. And, of course, the Dow was down yesterday with UnitedHealthcare and the issues there. But the NASDAQ yesterday was up 300 points.
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Well, you just mentioned it. Through 19,000 already. We were just sitting at those a few days ago. A, we're on the cusp of 18,000, and now we've just pushed through the 19,000 range.
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And the bad news is the P.E. ratios and forward P.E. ratios of the markets are now getting up there in the elevated range once again. And now that the S&P is closing in on 5,900, it's hit almost everybody's target prices out there for the year. And we've still got seven, six and a half months to go. We have the soft inflation report. It just seems like what Trump is doing, whether you like him or not, seems to be working. The results are there. Inflation has been coming down. Yes, it's coming down around the world. I saw Germany was 2.1% today. But, you know, I mean, he entered in and he had the high egg prices seemed to be the biggest one that everybody was upset about. And everybody was talking about he had not done anything for inflation after he had only been the president for a week or two. But now, I mean, we're starting to show up and it just could be the natural course that inflation takes. But somebody needs to get credit for inflation coming down. And that was a really good report. Very soft report yesterday on inflation. I saw a little thing today. The newest proverb on Wall Street is buy in May and feast away. which has kind of been the, there is no one set. Every year is different. And, you know, I mean, the hallmark of this year, the main theme in the market has been breaking news. So how can you ever have an old phrase from the stock trader's almanac that works year after year? I remember the dogs of the Dow was a popular method of buying and selling stocks maybe 20 years ago where you bought the $5. biggest yields uh in the dow and held on to them and then every year you adjusted that and over time that had beat beaten the market quite handily because you were buying i guess mostly out of favor stocks because their dividend yields were essentially bottom feeding Yeah, but that hasn't worked so well in recent years. So, you know, and the go away in May has not worked so well either. So I just think you have to take every year a little bit differently. And we're going to get earnings from Cisco after the close today. Cisco is trying to become more of a AI, a quantum. They're trying to get in on all of that. But, you know, it just seems to me that once you miss the boat, It's pretty hard to catch up. IBM would be a good example of that. Hewlett Packard would be a good example of that. Dell would be a good example of that. Oracle, to some extent, would be a good example of that. It's very hard to get onto that train. once the trains left the station. Tomorrow we're going to get Walmart and Alibaba. And I would say this about the Chinese stocks. Most of those big Chinese stocks, and I think you have to look at China once again, now that this Phase 1 part of the deal is in, they're trading at 8 to 10 times multiples right now. Alibaba, Baidu. Tencent Holdings, etc., those big tech China stocks where our tech stocks are trading at 30, 40 times earnings. I think there's some value. And there are quite a few Chinese, big, big blue-chip Chinese stocks showing up in our value fund because they have relatively low PEs. In fact, I would say China is now the cheapest market in the world Because everybody deserted China there here in recent months with the ships plugged up at the ports. Last night I saw a big freighter leaving the port as I went over the Ravenal Bridge. It looked like it had unloaded its goods. I think it had been sitting there. And, of course, the deal happened on Sunday, really, was when it was announced. And you had the ship unloaded probably on Monday and was leaving the port Tuesday. And there were two other ships in our port. We'll see. I'll bet that traffic in the port really picks up here. Once again, so you've got boots on the ground here in Charleston watching the flow of ships coming in and out of one of the busiest harbors on the East Coast. Okay, interest rates still too high in my book. 4.5 on the 10-year, pushes the 30-year mortgage, 6.86. Applications are steady. Rates rise a little bit. But, you know, I'd like to see interest rates at least, especially on that 30-year, you know, down in the fives if that can happen. Rates just too high right now. We'll be right back.
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They call me the breeze. I keep low and low.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Believe it or not, yesterday the market closed in positive territory for 2025 for the first time since the end of February, making an end to one of the most tumultuous periods in the S&P 500's history. And, of course, they look at the first day of that tumultuous period as Liberation Day announcement by Donald Trump back, oh, that was, I can't remember the date. April 2nd.
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The S&P was at 5,670 points on April 3rd. It started to sell off. We finally hit bottom after a 21% sell-off in the S&P 500. It got clear down to 4,835 on April 7th. My article came out on April the 9th. April 7th was a Friday. So my, let's see, it would have came out on Monday or Tuesday morning saying that I think the tariffs are going to work. And, of course, that was the exact bottom of the market. And you've seen the markets rebounding since then. And yesterday, May 13th, so you had what? What is that? A wild ride of five weeks?
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Published April 8th at 5.34 a.m.
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There you go. Thank you, Seeking Alpha, for publishing that. And I do have a... A sequel to that article. Now that we're back to where we began, where do we go from here? And what are some of the best stocks out there in the market right now? And we're working on that article.
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Yeah, S&P up 13% since that day. Now, here's the top 10 performers. They're not, well, in the S&P 500. Number one.
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NRG Energy, which is on the periphery of the nuke sector. NRG is the symbol. It's up 75.5% year-to-date. Wow. Now, if you remember, I was at the bell ringing of the NASDAQ closing the market. I can't remember. It was early, early January. It was snowing. It was cold. And I said, my top pick for the year is Palantir. Palantir is the second best performer in the S&P 500 so far this year with a gain of 71% since the beginning of the year. Now, I would add a caveat to that. At this level, it's not my favorite stock because the valuation is up in the cloud territory right now. PE is high. Very high. Right. Number three performer, believe it or not, is Uber, up 52.5% here today.
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It took me a long time to guess that one.
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Number four is one we own in our dividend portfolio, Howmatt Aerospace, up 45%. Number five, Mosaic. Here come the fertilizer stocks when you least expect them. Up 39%. I think that has a lot to do with Ukraine and Russia and, of course, the need for feeding our crops around the world so they can feed us. Number six, Philip Morris of all stocks, up 36.5% year-to-date. The worst performer, Moderna. That was the vaccine stock down 38.7%. Number two is UnitedHealthcare. I was about to say, they've got to be there somewhere. Wow. Over the last two days. Down 38.7%. And then there's some, Decker's is number three. Of course, the tariff scare took them down, but they're coming back right now. I picked it up. We sold it for a big profit after owning it for a long time. I let it do its thing, sell off, and then I added it to the value fund because I thought on a relative value basis, it's very low. Okay, Marko Kalanovich, our favorite guy, former J.P. Morgan strategist. I don't know who he works for now. He's calling, well, he's in line with the late Charlie Munger. I think he used the same exact terminology for crypto. He calls it rat poison. Marko Kalanovic had strong words on Wednesday for those touting the global race for crypto supremacy as he continued to slam the asset class. Unfortunately, Marko Kalanovic has been wrong about 90% of the time. Eventually you're going to hit one, you know, if you keep putting out ridiculous comments. But, you know, I'm not a big fan of crypto myself. I have my reservations about it. But he's been very wrong over the years. He's calling crypto rat poison. UnitedHealthcare approves a $1 million base salary for their new CEO, InStep's Andrew Witte. No, that was the previous CEO. He resigned due to personal reasons. We don't know what those personal reasons were. Maybe he's getting threats on his life.
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I don't know. I would think that's got to be a tough PR-wise, right? It's got to be a tough job.
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The new CEO, good luck to him, Stephen Hemsley, will receive an annual base salary of $1 million. And he's 72 years old. Wow. He was previously the company's chairman of the board and a former CEO. I'd like to see the guy from... Let's see, from Aetna, and then he went to the one that Trump's son-in-law has run. What's the name of that insurer stock? I can't think. Mario Bertone is the guy. Mario was the CEO of the company. I'd like to see him take over UnitedHealthcare. He's a crackerjack CEO. But anyways, that's where we stand right now with a very troubled company. Oscar Health is the stock I'm trying to think of. That's where that guy went. And Oscar Health has been perking up here recently. That's a very tough – that's probably the worst-performing sector in the market. And, of course, UnitedHealthcare is a big player in that. I see Nucor. You know, Nucor was on the national news about two weeks ago or three weeks ago. I talked to some people at my church who work there. And yeah, J.D. Vance was there and Brett Baer was outside the gates of Nucor. and doing his broadcast from there. I see since then they've had a big cybersecurity incident. I don't know if there's any connection there. I'm sure there probably is. But anyways, they're working to contain the incident. Now, Saudi Arabia. The number of artificial intelligence-focused deals signed yesterday between U.S. tech companies and Saudi Arabia is a bullish eye-opener for investors.
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A trillion dollars, right, basically.
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Unbelievable. And I saw it in the charts of the stocks that broke out, and I'm going to bring a few of those to your attention when we come back.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. Let's just take a little update look here at the markets after two big days. Well, let's see.
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We've got the NASDAQ up 71, so we've lost some of our gains from this morning. It's not unusual to see a little bit of a pause here after a 1,000-point day on the Dow Monday. Then the Dow was down yesterday because of UnitedHealthcare, but the NASDAQ has had two big days in a row. We now have the S&P 500 up just three points, so not a lot of news here. Yesterday, though, the breakouts, the ones that I want to point out here, the S&P 500 number one, that's pretty much a V-shaped recovery there, and it almost looks like a nice head and shoulders bottom also, a very compact, quick one. But it was news driven. So, you know, a lot of these technical indicators and charts kind of fly out the window when you're going from day to day with breaking news. But they're still forming patterns every day. All of these one day moves and you have a very bullish chart on the S&P 500 with a breakout through resistance yesterday. Ditto the NASDAQ, okay? If you look at the, I sent these out yesterday to folks. The NASDAQ broke out yesterday to the upside. That's a very bullish pattern there on the NASDAQ. I pointed that out in the morning. And, of course, the NASDAQ has a lot of those AI stocks. And it looks to me like the NASDAQ is headed for 20,000 again, where it was before all of this began. The PE ratio on the NASDAQ goes from, or this is the forward PE ratio, goes from 24.4 to 26.2 during this jump. Palantir had a big breakout. It's pulling back today. It looks really, really just kind of overdone right now to me. I'd be careful with Palantir. It looks pretty vulnerable with these kind of multiples that it's trading at. We also had a big breakout in the Nuke stocks yesterday. SMR. Oklo, Constellation Energy, Vistra, and the biggest performer in the S&P 500 so far this year, NRG, a very big breakout yesterday. NVIDIA, okay, that's one you've got to really take a look at there. NVIDIA struggled. They're for quite some time. It had a couple of things hanging over its head. Number one, the restrictions placed on it by the U.S. government in dealing with China. And number two, the possibility of a competitor coming out of China in the form of Huawei, But it looks to me like the obstacles for NVIDIA are out of the way right now. NVIDIA is a heck of a lot cheaper than Palantir. And to me, NVIDIA looks to have a clear path back to its old high of 152. Yep. Which if it does that, that would make it the most valuable company in the world once again.
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Right at the $3 trillion mark yesterday. And the thing is, you talked about the deals with Saudi Arabia. Even if you continue to have curbs right in China, you're opening up new markets right in this sense in terms of these deals in Saudi Arabia. So there could be more of those on the horizon.
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Saudi Arabia looks like a pretty nice place to visit. They were showing their downtown area is almost like Las Vegas with all these U.S. restaurants and different kinds of places to go have fun and everything. It's 108 degrees, okay, but so is Las Vegas. It's a dry heat. That's what my wife said. There's great restaurants there, and I know Dubai. My nephew goes to those places on speaking engagements. I've got to have him on the show sometime. He worked with Clay Christensen as his right-hand man in disruptive technologies, and he goes all over the country and the world. giving speeches. He was a professor, Ph.D., Stanford, and Harvard. So there's some brains in our family somewhere. I don't know what happened to me, but anyways. Okay, so big momentum day yesterday. Palantir. Robinhood had a huge day yesterday. It kind of trades with the AI stocks, the momentum side of the ledger. Meta had a huge breakout yesterday. Netflix had a big breakout. Fortinet. DoorDash, this new one, CoreWeave, which is going to report earnings tonight, by the way. CrowdStrike, those were your big winners in the market yesterday.
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I just saw some news on Boeing. I know you talked about Boeing a good bit yesterday. I guess Trump announced Qatar is going to buy 160 Boeing jets. So that just came out in the last 10, 15 minutes. There's some deals going on over there, ringing the cash register.
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I need to get Trump on the tour with us around the country, bringing in new clients. The guy's a good salesman. He's a heck of a salesman.
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He's got a great product, right, American?
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Yeah, he's got a good product to sell, that's right. But you've got to get out there and you've got to beat the bushes and you've got to, you know, feet on the ground. And I think the previous administration hardly ever left the White House.
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On autopilot, yeah.
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NVIDIA, big beneficiary from the Saudi deals. Broadcom, huge breakout yesterday. And the other one that all of a sudden... AMD. Look at that chart. They're doing a stock buyback. And AMD was a beneficiary from this Saudi Arabia trip so far. And so was Marvell Technology, MRVL. And one other one that got in on all of this was Supermicrocomputer. They got some orders. And SMCI, which is definitely in that database category, it's up 13.8% today. I was also looking at Jensen Wang's net worth. He's number 12 now. In the world, I want to say about $180 billion, $150 billion. His net worth has doubled over the last 12 months, so not too bad for Mr. Jensen Wang, originally from Taiwan, along with his cousin, Lisa Su, who is the CEO of AMD. Friendly little rivalry. I don't know what they talk about at Thanksgiving. That's got to be amazing. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. He doesn't leave his briefcase laying around there before he leaves. Anyways, super microcomputer, another beneficiary. Okay, the other big thing that's taken place in Saudi Arabia, in China, in Austin, in San Jose, is RoboTaxi. And you know what? It still really has not hit yet, the whole RoboTaxi thing. It's happening. There's a lot of people that want to be players. Now Baidu is getting in on it. They want to be a big player in Europe. They're planning to launch their Apollo Go robo-taxi service. I see it going over bigger in Europe. than in the U.S., but we'll see. And then, of course, Uber is partnering with Chinese self-driving startup Momenta. We've had big moves in Pony AI and WeRide. So anyways, this whole autonomous thing. And, of course, don't leave out Tesla. You can never count Elon Musk out. somebody's going to emerge and i think it will be like uh... you know whoever emerges first will probably get the lion's share of the market share uh... and it will be uh... hard to catch up once once that happens robin hood has been a very good stock here recently we own it in our altar growth portfolio i'm interested in watching this one that's going public i believe today out of israel e toro eToro is going to compete with Robinhood. and uh... you know i mean it's not easy to trade on an iphone do i saw a guy doing it uh... one day and man he's he'd be easy with uh... with with fat fingers or fat thumbs to hit the wrong thing wrong number wrong amount of shares short instead of buy there's a lot of there's a lot of things as a guy who trades daily or buys and sells almost on a daily basis It's pretty easy to make a mistake if you don't really watch what you're doing. But anyways, it's a huge, huge market. And this eToro is going to take on Robinhood. The symbol is E-T-O-R. We'll be adding that to the database. It's coming public today and on my watch list. There's another startup I want to talk about when we come back. It's the Best Stocks Now show.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. And as I said on Monday, you saw a lot of the retail stocks up 18%, up 20%, up 19%. Fear of the tariffs, obviously. But to be honest, I mean, they're not very good stocks to begin with before that. And then, of course, they tanked. There was a lot of short interest in them, which made the move on Monday exaggerated. But the reason we don't have any exposure to the American Eagles, Gap Stores, Abercrombie & Fitch, is they're not growth stocks anymore. And I see today American Eagle is withdrawing. Their outlook, they expect 5% fall in Q1 revenue, stock plummets. And so, you know, even though these stocks, and we were left behind on Monday with all of these stocks, but that's okay.
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And one of those stocks have been disrupted, right? I mean, you always talk about you don't want to be the disrupted stock. You want to be the disruptor. And, you know, I mean, no secret that brick-and-mortar retail, right, has been under attack by the likes of Amazon or, you know, a trillion other companies over the years.
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Yes. Now, here's the biotech of the day, because Novo Nordisk turns to them for their oral obesity drug, which they have submitted to the FDA. Who's going to be first to market this? Now, these stocks are kind of under fire right now with Trump, President Trump, you know, working on lowering drug prices. And I've got to believe that they're in the headlights, these weight loss, GLP-1 drugs. But Novo Nordisk is teaming up with Septerna, S-E-P-N, which is up 52% today. They're out of San Francisco, and they're going to work. It's a recent IPO that has not done well. It's been cut in half. In fact, it went from 20 down to 4. And today it's back to 10 of 51% as Septerna signs a deal with Novo Nordisk. Somebody's going to crack the code. And I think, well, Lilly, we already know that theirs is working. They're oral, the pill. Which is a, that competes with the current methodology that, you know, a patient has to use of injecting themselves in the stomach with a hypodermic needle to put the fluid, the semaglutide, the ZepBound or the Wegovi into themselves and inject. Curb their appetite for seven days. Okay, this one I want to bring up, Databricks. That thing's going to go public here pretty soon. You know, I watched this CoreWeave go public, and as soon as I saw the numbers on CoreWeave, the sales growth, which was just off the charts there, I became very, very interested in it. And I know there's a big one out there that's getting ready to go public. They compete with Snowflake. It is called Databricks. Databricks announces deal to acquire database startup Neon. And Databricks right now as a private company, uh... is valued at sixty two billion dollars where were we when they have the uh... initial meeting we've got this idea you know we're raising money those are called the early investors uh... you know twenty five cents a share or whatever it is now this company which has not gone public yet uh... is valued at sixty two billion dollars so That's where your venture capital is made, but keep in mind that what percent of the venture capital goes belly up and never sees the light of day. Of course, if there's no market, if there's no liquidity conclusions of the whole thing, everybody loses all their money. That's why most of these venture capital firms, number one, they're very choosy, and number two, they usually have a pretty broad array of of companies uh... but somebody some of them got lucky and data bricks is the real deal sixty two billion dollars okay i'm gonna close with this one because i don't know much about it other than what is going on this thing has uh... just decided this was a unknown stock for a long long time The name of the company is Nutex, N-U-T-E-X. They're out of Houston, Texas. Houston, what is going on with NewTex? It's a hospital company. Technology-enabled healthcare services, okay? This stock is breaking out to a new all-time high today after they report stunning earnings and sales. This is one that I've got to get on to this story, find out what it is. Their earnings were up 999%, $2.56 versus $0.08 last year, minus $0.08 last year, and their sales were up. 214% their sales tripled and it's a stock that's been around for quite some time but we need to do some research I found it on the app you know all of a sudden this is an A plus momentum stock And I start watching it and monitoring it every day. And I've just watched it just take off. NUTX. So there's one for you wannabe analysts, researchers to look into. And last but not least, I think I can fit one more in here. Tencent Holdings reported earnings today. I'm telling you, the Chinese stocks are the cheapest stocks in the world right now. And now that this phase one deal is behind them, you take 10 cents, going to make $4 per share. It's trading at 67. That's a 16.5 forward P.E. ratio on a company that's probably comparable. To a lot of our companies, you know, 10 cent would be comparable to maybe a Google. even a little bit of Amazon online advertising. But it's a very low multiple, and the stock's up 3.1% today after the report earnings, and we're out of time. If you would like to set up an appointment, we're book-ready. Tuesday night, the workshop in Warrensville, Ohio, just outside of Cleveland. at 7 p.m. at the Marriott, and Tuesday and Wednesday, private meetings between the crew that you hear on the radio to set up an appointment, 855-611-BEST, and to get four weeks to the newsletter. If you really want to jumpstart on learning about the markets, that's a good place to start. Get the four-week trial at GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And on the show, we focus on the issues. And sometimes that takes a lot of real discipline to do that because human beings have personalities and we can get into the personality thing. And so it takes a lot of work to focus on the issues, but we are dedicated to doing so. Our word of the day. is indelible. It's I-N-D-E-L-I-B-L-E. It's an adjective. It could be impossible to remove, erase, or wash away, permanent. Number two, making a mark not easily erased or washed away. And number three, unable to be forgotten, memorable. And I pulled this because actually it was used in the scriptures on Sunday. Now I can't remember exactly what it was exactly, so I'll go to what the dictionary said. It could be indelible ink. an indelible pin for labeling clothing or an indelible memory so your challenge is to use indelible in a sentence today and our quote of the day i went to mark twain and he said in this he's and of course he was a great author And he said, in the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And the other night when we were at the Cup board meeting, we were talking about that the founding of our country is There were just a few that stepped forward for freedom. And ultimately, with their courage, our country was founded, and it was then put in place, this constitution, that we would settle our differences uh, via, um, our constitution instead of picking arms up against each other as, uh, as throughout history, that's what has happened. And that is what is so unique about, uh, the United States of America is that we are, have this framework to, um, Settle our differences that way. And that's why the Constitution is so important. And that's why we need to make sure that we understand it, read it and adhere to it. And with all that's going on, we're going to have a very interesting conversation today in the second hour, because. Trent Luce, and rightfully so, he's looking at some of these things that are happening and are questioning them. We always have to question. That is for sure. But I think it's going to be an interesting conversation. And I'm going to want you all to weigh in as well, because he's got some questions about the Trump administration. And I think we need to probably have a conversation about that. I had not pulled up the bio on Mark Twain, so I wanted to do that quickly. And again, this is such an important quote on what he said. He said that in the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And Mark Twain was born in 1835. He died in 1910. He was an American writer, humorist, and essayist. He was praised as the greatest humorist the United States has produced, with William Faulkner calling him the father of American literature. His novels include The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. It's sequel, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Those were a couple of books that I know had been attempted to be banned in school libraries a while back. I was just, as I was mentioning that, going down memory lane. So again, that's a great quote by Mark Twain. headlines, there's a couple of things that I wanted to mention. First is I saw that there was a police activity yesterday at Denver's Union Station. And that has become a very dangerous place. And I remember pre-COVID, I would go down And there was a great little hamburger place there that I'd meet friends for lunch. And I used to love to go down to Union Station. Of course, a lot of money was poured into Union Station to make it really a beautiful building. But there's a lot of crime there, and that's going on right now. And so I've pulled this from westward. and Union Station and Civic Center. Again, I used to love to go down to the Civic Center as well, and also that whole area. And I really don't like to go down there much at all. Both those places have become pretty dangerous places to be. And it's because Denver is in decline. And why is Denver in decline? Because the extremist Democrats that have taken over the Democrat Party in Colorado And they have been in power down at the Capitol and also in Denver government. And our city, this beautiful city that I loved is totally in decline. And we've got to do things to reclaim this and we need to do this at the ballot box. And that's why the election stuff that we've been working on is so important. Stay tuned. I did talk with both Marley Hornick regarding our lawsuit with United Sovereign Americans. Of course, we had Harry Howry on last week, who's a co-founder. And it looks like there may be some adjustments to that lawsuit. But just stay tuned. That is out there. And then I talked with Peter Berneger the other day regarding our other lawsuit. And he said that the secretary of state had come back and We had to have a very targeted list, and we ran that as of Election Day. And that targeted list, we found 14,500 people that should not have received ballots and had voted. And so that is the premise of the lawsuit. And apparently the Secretary of State came back and challenged 30 of those names. And Peter and company went through and on each of those 30 names and every one of those 29 of the 30 names were totally rock solid on our side. And so stay tuned on what's going to happen with that. But elections are so important. So we need to be doing two things. We need to be making sure that our elections are free, fair, honest and transparent and Number one, and then we need to make sure that we are electing candidates that have the fortitude to actually, first of all, understand our American ideas, stand, be representatives of the people instead of representatives as politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties. One other thing, I saw this headline, and this is from CNBC, and it says Medicaid work requirements would kick hardworking people off health care coverage, Senator Warnock says. Now, wait a minute. If you have to have work requirements, how can it be hardworking? So anyway, let's just unpack this just a little bit. It says, as some Washington lawmakers look to slash federal spending, Medicaid cuts could be on the table. But proposals to implement work requirements for coverage eligibility should be off the table, Democrat Senator Raphael Warnock tells CNBC.com. He says, what we see is that this is a good way to kick a lot of people off their health care, hardworking everyday Americans who are struggling. So let's, first of all, if there's work requirements, it seems like you would be hardworking. So that's the first thing I don't understand. But the second thing is, is health care has gotten so expensive and taxes have gotten so expensive, sales tax. Hardworking people that are trying to buy things for their families, everyday things that they need for their families, that's more expensive because of sales taxes. And, of course, property taxes going up across the board, that plays out to all of Americans. And so I do agree. I think that we need to have work requirements for Medicaid. And so Warnock's talking out of both sides of his mouth here. 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and welcome back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it the show comes due because of our sponsors and i thank the harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show On the line with me is Yvonne Paez. She is the co-founder of Perspectives 101, which is a civics group that meets up in northern Colorado. It's nonpartisan, but talks about many of these issues just to inform people. So Yvonne Paez, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim, and good morning to you and to the audience. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good to have you. And also, you guest host the show as well from time to time, and I greatly appreciate that.
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Oh, you're very welcome. And thanks for mentioning Perspectives 101, which you will actually be there this month on the 22nd.
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I'm excited about that. That should be really interesting and good conversation. So let's jump in here, though. There's a lot of headlines regarding Trump. Apparently, Qatar has offered him a jet, and he's kicking around the idea of accepting it. And Joe and I were talking about it. I said, huh. Seems to me like that would be a real security issue for him to accept a jet from an Arabian country and from the Arabian area over there. And he said, well, you know, why don't you talk to Yvonne Paez? Because she's been in the military and a police officer. And so we wanted to get your take on this. And I'm looking at different headlines on it. And Trump is saying, why wouldn't I accept this gift? Nikki Haley says, regarding the Qatari jet, if this were Biden, we would be furious. Chuck Schumer is threatening to block any judicial or DOJ nominees over this jet. So what's your thoughts on all this, Yvonne?
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Oh, gosh. Okay, so, you know, having been responsible for securing sensitive military facilities, et cetera, of course, when I heard this a few days ago, the first thing that comes to my mind is the security alert, alert, alert kind of thing, right? But I don't jump into it. I mean, I find it comical. I mean, I'm sorry, but it is a little, you know, you shouldn't laugh at these things, but sometimes you kind of do. When everybody starts, you know, just losing their stopover over this and, you know, doing all this pearl clutching and whatever. So let's kind of analyze this. So, you know, when I heard about it and I think about Qatar's offer to gift an Air Force One to the United States and him considering it as a security issue. Right. So what could go wrong with that? Let's see. I wouldn't say that they're necessarily a hostile nation, but it's a nation that can go any way they want to go. So it's not necessarily like they're your lifelong friend and stuff. So you have to be a little careful. And so what kind of security issues are we talking about? Obviously, the simplest one is, oh, can it be bugs? But more than that, I mean, can there be physical dangers with it, right? And if somebody doesn't understand physical dangers of something, let me equate this to Let's say the U.S. builds embassies in other countries, right? And I'm somewhat familiar with some of those processes. And that usually has to be done by American contractors. So a U.S. embassy is going to be built by Americans somewhere else. They're going to send American people over there. And to some of what I understand – They ship every single part and piece that's going to build that over there at their American made. So, I mean, you can see why we're what that's about. It's about keeping control of every piece that's going to go into the manufacturing of something where you're going to put Americans. And that's just an embassy. So if we start talking about, you know, a plane that's going to carry the president, you can you can put that on steroids. Right. So that's what we're looking at. So why is there a security concern? For obvious reasons. So back to the bug, maybe danger of a physical danger. I mean, is this thing going to go down? Is it going to explode? Is it going to whatever? Are they going to, you could like, if somebody else makes this and you have no control over the makings and people think, oh, well, when it's done, we'll just go sweep it, you know, and we'll find whatever bugs are in it. It's not that simple. I mean, when you're manufacturing every piece, every bolt, you know, the whole thing, things can be just baked into the fabric of stuff. So, yes, it's a concern. Okay, now why am I not that concerned at the moment? Well, one, he hasn't even accepted it. And let me say, you know, back to the security thing, if you're a student of history, you know, we need to think things like Trojan horses, right? But people who don't think that way are just lacking in imagination, I guess. So then there's secondary considerations. But what do you think so far?
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Well, I like what you're saying. So continue.
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So then after that first thought, because that's where my mind's going to go first is all the security, then I kind of actually laughed. And then I thought as if making him or the U.S., you know, him a plane in the U.S. is any less dangerous. I mean, this guy, like, half the country voted for him, or just over half, and the rest of them either, you know, voted for him just wanting to see what's going to happen, or, you know, or, you know, so the rest of them didn't vote for him. And a lot of them are very, very, how do I put this politely? They're not very excited about him being president and, or for those of us that understand it, suffer from TDS. You know, they hear the name Trump and they're just, you know, they're having palpitations, shall we say. So when a person has been, you know, treated the way he's been treated and then all the lawfare and then, you know, people take a couple shots at him, things like that, then what makes you think that making a complaint in the United States for this man is going to be any safer? So Uh, that's where my mind goes, because again, I really think about these things and because I was in charge of making people safe, um, in, in the military. So, um, so that's a problem, right? So I kind of laugh at that and I'm like, well, can Boeing be trusted? Because, you know, maybe as a company, but you know, a company is made up of people and if, you know, people get in there and they want to harm him, well, then that's an issue in itself, right? Then we've got the whole issue of Boeing not getting the plane done. So that's a whole different issue. And I kind of laughed again saying, well, why can't Boeing get a plane done? I mean, isn't that what they do? So then you have to realize, well, why are they stalling? Do they want him? They don't want him to have a new plane. So they're going to write it out until he's done with his terms and give a new plane to somebody else. I mean, is this kind of like, I don't like you. I'm not making your planes. So it's really kind of funny. So then I think of, I laugh again and go, you know, it's not about the, it's not about really about who's making the plane over here or over there. It's about getting the plane done. So I think of who he is and think about how he thinks. And he's just a person who gets things done. And I'm sure he's quite impatient with it not getting done. So he's kind of enjoying pitting one builder against another builder to maybe light a fire under Boeing's, hiney and put a little egg on their face for a plane building company either stating or somehow well who cares what they're saying the the the actions are that they're not building or finishing the plane. So there you go.
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Okay. So I, and so you and I were talking about all the security things and this is coming in on the text line as well as I also seen a headline on this. And so in the constitution, there's the, this emoluments where our elected representatives are president. They're not supposed to be accepting gifts from other countries. Although I'll just say the word Biden and we'll just let that hang out there. But but and this is a good point from Mark. He said Trump would be subject to gifts and gratuities as all other government officials are, as should be. But it would be seen as influence peddling. And I think that appearance. So that's why I find it kind of interesting that Trump would let that be out there. So your thoughts.
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Well, let me stop you right there, because this gift isn't to Trump. Let's make that clear first. The plane belongs to the United States government. So the gift is to the United States. And if we want to start talking not accepting gifts, then, you know, somebody I heard somewhere, you know, among conversations about this, well, then it makes total sense that maybe we should return the Statue of Liberty because it's my understanding that the French gave us that so we can give that back. So who is the gift for? Okay. Not that we should be accepting it. Not that it's safe or anything like that. But it would be a gift to the United States government, right? So, again, it's not about the silly plane. I mean, to me, really, it's about, you know, embarrassing Boeing a little bit for not being able to do what they claim that they do, which is build planes. Right.
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Okay, which he certainly has been art of the deal on so many different things. And so it's interesting. So you're not as concerned about the security component of it as I think I initially was on that, Yvonne?
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I'm incredibly concerned about the security part of it, only if it's ever gifted to us. So, you see, we're not there yet. I mean, this could just be, you know, they're offering something, and he's like, okay, let's think about this. And in the meantime, everybody over here is going, oh, my God, oh, my God, we've got to make a plan because we can't let somebody else make it. Well, gee, isn't that what we want?
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Okay. So ultimately, you think it may be that he will accomplish getting what needs to be done, just as he normally does with a very kind of negotiated way to handle things. So let's just back up a little bit to Perspectives 101 before we let you go. And you started this, gosh, was it before COVID or during COVID?
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I started it just before COVID, and I would say we because it was us, Solomon and I, who started it just before COVID. It would have been the fall of 2019, and we pretty much figured out through speaking with people that when we spoke of ongoing things, most people said I had no idea. Then we felt that if nobody had any idea of what was going on around them, and we were driving this bus called the U.S. straight off a cliff, maybe we should be informing people of what was going around, what's happening around us. Because people are busy, and they're just working, and they're busy doing their lives. So it's not easy always to get information. And so we bring different speakers on all sorts of different subjects. And then we inform people about what's going on. So it's really an informative conversation. civic group is all it is, but it's, it's, it's fun. It's a good time gathering and it's, it's enlightening.
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And there's no website. So if people want more information, how can they get it?
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They can email perspectives101.info at gmail.com.
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Okay. Well, Yvonne Paez, as always, thank you. I really appreciate your perspective. I appreciate you when you guest host the show as well and have a great day.
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Thank you. And again, let's not worry about what hasn't happened yet. Let's see why it's being done.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And tomorrow is the USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament. And if you're a golfer, I think there might still be a few spots left. And it'll be a beautiful day, a great way to support the memorial. And Teresa Irby, our partnership liaison, and I will be out there for lunch. I'm not a golfer, but we will be out there for lunch, and we'd love to have you join us. You can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I'm pleased to have on the line with me Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas and has really been working to protect private property rights. She's been concerned about the imminent domain and takings of land for these big swaths of land for transmission lines, but she's also got some other things going on. Virginia, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim, and good morning to Colorado from Kansas. Well, as I think most people now know, I grew up in Kansas, and I love the plains of western Kansas and the plains of eastern Colorado. But you're doing amazing work there. And just before we get into the subject that you are doing amazing work on, regarding green energy components that are being manufactured with slave labor. Give us an update on the transmission lines, what's happening with that on Stanford and Kansas.
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Kim, as every effort that we've put out in front, our counties have really held the line, and it has pretty much slowed down. the pace to a very slow crawl for the green energy people here in Kansas. We actually are now combating our public utility provider, which is Evergy Energy. They are a necessary monopoly, according to the state, and they are on their third rate increase to cover the construction So we are headed to battle in June on these rate hearings and have people show up and testify. The last time I was at a rate hearing, it lasted to well over 11 o'clock at night, and they heard every person there, which is well over 100, maybe 150 people, voicing their opinions on these rates. And it is really hurting our senior citizens and our people on fixed incomes. It hurts the impoverished. It really hurts the community. So we are looking at some legislators waking up and a lot of people are coming to the front on the county level. So we're really excited about some of the things that we're doing.
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So, Virginia, I was at a meeting yesterday, and it was energy people and also an elected person. And they were talking about these AI centers and the increased energy needs, which looks like that plays out to transmission lines. And I thought, huh. And then also talking about green energy. And I'm a little concerned about what's happening in the higher echelons regarding energy. I came away a little disconcerted on this because it seemed to me like people – are buying into this whole AI thing and the energy needs on that, which would play out in transmission lines. And I just came away a little concerned. I know that I'm being a little evasive on that, but I'm concerned that the higher echelons, that they're not really understanding what this is doing to everyday people.
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You know, Kim, everybody in your audience should be concerned. Now think about this. AI is based on information and data. That's your data. That's your information. That's information that's being collected by your own government. And so think about if someone had the power to know everything about you and these AI centers were able to create a profile of you. What power does that person have to create that profile, whether it's right or wrong? So data is one of your most precious assets and the public doesn't even realize it yet. So if you watch, say, a movie about, you know, clandestine spies and they have a profile of you and What if that profile is not correct? What if that data is not correct? We should all be concerned about these data centers because AI is based on information and data. So you have to ask yourself, what exactly is this data and this information? And is any of that my information and my personal and private data? that perhaps our own state government collected. So yes, data centers are a huge problem. I believe that Elon Musk has even addressed the person in charge of AI and AI needs to be moral and needs to be responsible, but no one seems to be listening to him. And I believe that there are people now in that arena that are looking at the power. Look what China does to their people with a social score. And that's kind of a scary thing. And we wouldn't think in America that could happen. It could very easily happen. And so I've been in the data arena for a while. And that is kind of how I got over to this subject of human rights. I started looking at China and social scores and the power of having that kind of data and what you could do to a person's life. So tax credits, everybody needs to stand up against tax credits for data centers. AI can be used for good, but it can also be used for bad. There has to be an edict on responsibility and protection of the individual's rights. So that is concerning as well. The transmission lines that are going to carry this, the solar and the wind, is a pipe dream. And President Trump knows that. And that is why his Secretary of Energy has been out here talking about nuclear, talking about oil, talking about gas, talking about coal. because those are base load energies that you can depend on and it delivers energy. It doesn't deliver tragic, eminent domain across everybody's land. The reason that everybody is concerned about eminent domain is because the green energy footprint is so large and so complicated. that in the end it's not going to satisfy these energy needs. I don't think we've gotten into a conversation yet about that kind of power going across our lands and even the electromagnetic fields that it could possibly affect your health. So that I think those are future conversations and we have to battle them on all fronts.
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Well, we do. And thank you, because I've been contemplating just these conversations that I listened to yesterday. So I thank you for that. So let's get over here. Actually, let's go to break early, Virginia. That way we don't have to stop the conversation on this. I'm talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas, has a deep understanding of our Constitution. has a deep understanding of property rights, individual rights, liberty, and certainly some of the images that she sent over. And we had one of those images also in our documentary, A Climate Conversation, and that was of children that were mining minerals that were needed in batteries, in car batteries. And from just a moral standpoint, we have to ask, should we be purchasing things that are being manufactured by slave labor? And so that's the question on the table. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And we'll talk with him in the next hour. And that is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. Email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. They will be in honor of Memorial Day on the 28th of May. They will have an On Values presentation. You can get that information by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. I'm talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas, and we're talking about something new that she is working on. And that is regarding bringing to light, first of all, that slave labor is being used in China to manufacture the components for, in air quotes, green energy. Of course, I've learned in all of the research we've done, the green and green energy is the green that's going into PBI's pockets. But resolutions that they are presenting to counties to say that we're not going to, well, regarding holding renewables to a human standard. So talk to us about this, Virginia Maka.
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Kim, the two words that send fear through anybody in the green energy sector is human rights. And you look at human rights. as being the basic rights and freedoms that every person has just because you are human. And those basic rights are just being trampled when it comes to China's production of green energy. So I sat with some lawyers and we made a resolution And our first county in Kansas has adopted that resolution, holding renewables to a human standard. Because in America, we should honor everybody's human rights, whether they are here or the products that are actually offending our human rights as landowners, as Americans, our basic freedoms play into the same arena. So... I did some research, and what I found was that there is an area of China. It's the northwest quadrant of China, and it's an autonomous territory, and it's called Shenyang. This territory is mountainous, it's desert, and it's home to the Muslims, the Uyghur Muslims. These are the most highly persecuted people in China. Their small children at eight years old are taken from their parents and that they will never return to their parents or see their parents again and are put into slave labor camps. And these slave labor camps are, they have hospitals, they have training, they have everything against the Uyghur Muslims' religion. They programmed these children, and these children head in these labor camps to mines, and they mine the toxic chemicals specific for green energy. So those toxic chemicals are ending up over here in America in these panels. They are cobalt, which is deadly, silicate, copper, silver, and cadmium, which is even more toxic because we've spent half a century cleaning up the cadmium from the lead mines. And so there was an effort of our federal government It was part of the Uyghur Human Rights Project. And this project held human rights hearings across the world, across the trade countries that funnel these panels or green energy components into our country. So our federal government God bless them. They did something right. In December 23 of 2021, Joe Biden signed in to law, the U.S. Congress Public Law 117-78. And that is the enforcement of an import ban on these components by June of 22. And there was No exception granted except you would have to go in front of the Commissioner of U.S. Customs, which I don't know who that currently is, but we all need to make sure that that's on our radar. And the importers will be expected to show the burden of proof that those components were not made on the backs of slave labor from this autonomous region. Now, what's really great about this, it was codified in our trade law, Section 22, USC Code 6901. And we have many trade partners that have codified this in their trade law. So Canada and Mexico were also part of this. And in essence, we made a database. where we could actually track and identify these products that are imported through these countries that have come up through our trade partners to see if they actually offend the human rights treaty that has been adopted by all these countries. So I actually found these panels, these solar panels existing in Kansas. And I took pictures of those panels, and I took pictures of the SKU numbers, the company they came from. And the company, Trini Solar, happens to be the biggest defender of the slave labor laws that have been put in place to protect the Uighur Muslims. So this resolution As it is adopted in a county, what it says is before any permit is issued, these papers will have to be surrendered to law enforcement and law enforcement will work with Homeland Security to verify that these components or panels were not made on the backs of slaves. And so right now we are working through that chain of custody of those papers when they are submitted to the county so that we can make sure there's a clear pathway to verify that these panels were not made on the backs of slaves where these panels came from. And that when that permit is issued, we at least have a conscious free commission that stood up for human rights. So it's been a very interesting two words to throw out there to commissioners. Some of them think it's a lifeline and you can tell which ones don't. So that is what we've been doing here in Kansas, working on Those components like chain of custody of these papers and how we verify those through Homeland Security and how our sheriffs in our counties work with Homeland Security to verify where these panels came from.
SPEAKER 07 :
So are you getting support from the Trump administration on this or do you interact with them much on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
The sheriff will interact with Homeland Security. Okay. We're waiting for our first set of papers to be submitted to the county that adopted this. The county that adopted this actually is a federal, is a hub. And we noticed they were filling up warehouse after warehouse at an old ammunition plant to the ceilings with these panels. to the point where they actually went out to a little town named Galesburg, Kansas, and filled warehouses full of these panels. And that is where I had the opportunity with a neighbor to take some pictures of an opened, you know, open exposure of these panels and really get a gist of where they came from, why they were hiding them in warehouses. And these panels were, would literally take up thousands and thousands of acres of Southeast Kansas and that those acres would be off the tax rolls. So, um,
SPEAKER 07 :
Which means that unless taxes are lowered, which we see PBIs don't like to do that, taxes will remain the same, but that lands off the tax rolls. So that means that taxes will go higher and higher for everyday Americans, and which ultimately that's another way of taking property away from people is through taxation. So this is all connected, isn't it?
SPEAKER 06 :
It sure is. It is a web. When you raise – when you take land off tax rolls and don't tax solar companies on this, it falls back on the people that are paying taxes and their taxes go higher. And then you have mitigation if something happens. And then you have cost of –
SPEAKER 07 :
Like a hailstorm, a hailstorm and those chemicals going onto the land. And we're just about out of time. Virginia, we're going to book you again, get you scheduled on this. It's a web. And trying to connect a web is a difficult thing. You're doing amazing work. How can people find your website?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, if anybody would like more information, I have a slideshow prepared, and I have a video. And the video is so heart-wrenching. I didn't realize the impact that it had, but it had massive impact on two commissioners in this county. Because once you see it, you can't not unsee it. And so if they would email me at Virginia at Stan4, the number 4, thelandkansas.com, I will send you all the information that you will need to go in front of your county commissioner because this isn't just for Kansas. This is across the Midwest. If you are having problems with green energy, at least hold them to a standard, a human standard. And there isn't much a county commissioner can say when it is a federal law and it's codified in our trade law. I will educate you on that. And I would love to come back and talk about the Uyghur Muslims and what they face every day.
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We'll make that happen. Virginia Maka, Stand for the Land Kansas. That's Virginia at Stand for the Land Kansas dot com. Our quote for the end of the show is from Mark Twain. He said the two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well, if honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. Like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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And important discussion. I just my heart is hurts to think I've looked at some of these images. Virginia Maka was our featured guest in our number one about Uyghur children in China that are being used to manufacture things for green energy, such as solar panels or the ingredients that go into that. And my heart hurts for this. So I'll be thinking a lot about this. Check out our website. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you're there, sign up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues ourselves. through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. That's on all KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And you can say, Alexa, play KLZ. And then after all that, you can find us on Spotify and iTunes as well. We look at these issues. Through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we look to protect individual rights, property rights, parental rights, our election systems. We focus on a lot of really important things here on the show. But let's get over here to our word of the day. And that is indelible. And it is spelled I-N-D-E-L-I-B-L-E. And it could be impossible to remove, erase or wash away. And I would say this conversation with Virginia Maka is indelible in my mind. regarding these children and these photographs of these kids that are doing slave labor in China for green energy components. So indelible is our word of the day, I-N-D-E-L-I-B-L-E, and it could be impossible to remove, erase, or wash away, permanent. Number two, making a mark, not easily erased or washed away. Or number three, unable to be forgotten or memorable. Our quote of the day is, is from Mark Twain. And he said this, Mark Twain was born in 1835, died in 1910. He was known, well, he was an American writer, humorist, essayist, and praised as the greatest humorist in the United States by William Faulkner, calling him the father of American literature. And he was the author of The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. And this is what Mark Twain said. He said, In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And I wanted to get through just a few of these text messages from our number one regarding our second segment with Yvonne talking about this offer from Qatar of a jet. And Trump is getting a lot of heat on if he accepts it. But Yvonne brought up this important point. And Susan said this is right, that it is a gift to America, not Trump. And then also, we were talking about security if this jet was manufactured by a country from the Arabian Peninsula. And Susan said this, with Boeing's DEI hires could be worried about the safety of a Boeing plane. And then let's see here. Another, Sandra said, great conversation with Yvonne. Envy can be... Remember, envy is always the driver, which is one of the deadly sins. And we have to ask ourselves, if the Democrats would have been offered a Boeing 747, how would they respond? Good point. Again, this is being offered to America, not to Trump. We need to remember that. And then... Another one says, Trump is a gracious man. He is a man who's had his life threatened more than once. He's no dummy. I don't believe he would ever accept this gift. And then regarding Boeing, Mark said this. He said, you have to understand that the challenge for Boeing is that Air Force One is a military acquisition. Government requirements and all the red tape involved in military acquisitions is the reason the systems are taking so long to build, test, and deliver. And this happens with all defense contractors, not just Trump. And so great points on all of that. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And on the line with me is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. He works with a lot of different companies, which means he's not just constrained to use just one company, which I love. Choice is a great thing. And he can help people in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. Lorne Levy, welcome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and last week, I embarrassed you because I had received, and I say that tongue-in-cheek, I'd received a really heartfelt thank you to both you and Karen Levine, Remax Realtor, for helping this particular person's son and his wife. They'd gotten themselves in a difficult situation, I think because of a health challenge. and you and Karen stepped forward and really helped them, and I read that on the air, and it was really, it's amazing. I was talking to Karen afterwards. I said, it's one thing when you appreciate something that somebody has done, but to take the time and energy to write an email and send it to me, I really thought that was very special, Lauren Levy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I agree. I was surprised by it. That's why when you read it, when you sent it to us, I was kind of surprised. I was like, wow, because you don't really – these are things you just do in the course of your day, you know, and you don't realize you're having an impact. So it was nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
It really was nice. So let's talk about, I thought I saw a headline yesterday that inflation numbers had cooled a bit. So what's your thoughts about that, Lorne Levy?
SPEAKER 11 :
You're correct about that. And when we saw, even this past week, we saw applications for mortgages to buy homes went up about 1% week over week. And I think that's because there's more inventory. So buyers are seeing more and more signs out there and feeling like they don't have to be stuck just with the one home they can find, you know, now there's more choice. So that's helping. Um, and you did see inventory numbers cooled. I went ahead and read pretty deep into those articles and I'm not that it didn't cool. It's overall, it did. Um, it's just certain segments. So like, for example, we're all seeing relief at the gas pump right now. I mean, I'm seeing numbers with a two in front of it again, which is nice. Um, and, uh, but I still think the grocery store is a challenge and, uh, and housing meaning mortgage rates and things like that. So it did cool in certain places, which is great for what the Fed looks at. But it was a split number sort of, which is why you didn't see a huge reaction from the market. You're seeing bigger market reactions from, well, the news was greatly outweighed by the 90-day pause on the tariffs on China. So, you know, that took hold, which was nice. The market had a good day, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I've got a question on tariffs. I know someone that has some things manufactured in China, just a small little entrepreneur, and they came in just at the very top of the tariffs. So these little companies that might have been affected by this, and then you have this pause, do you think they'll get any relief from those tariffs? And I know that that's probably a question that would be difficult to answer.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I think it would be tough to be that person. You know, Kim, to be honest with you, because imagine trying to run your business and, you know, one day, I will say this, you know, I can only speak anecdotally. That's how it affects our lives, right? I've seen a couple different emails come across my desk from companies that I may have purchased something for previously, whatever it might have been, a gift from my wife, something for my kids. I don't even remember what they were. And they'd be, you know, they were just trying to explain the quirkiness that's coming with their business because they're not sure how to price things. So they're saying things like when the tariffs kick in, you might see this price increase. If they don't, we'll stay with this. So I think it's been tough to manage because when you've got to plan for the tariffs and do something accordingly and then all of a sudden they don't happen or they get paused and you've got to bounce back. So, you know, I don't know how you manage around that. You know, I'm just kind of glad I don't do those businesses because I think it would be difficult.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it is difficult. And I know that people are frustrated in the business sector. Certainty is what business likes. And so this uncertainty, I've heard from people, they're a bit frustrated with Trump that support him, but they're frustrated because of the uncertainty. But yet, I think it's going to be a little rocky. We were headed over a cliff. We've got to remember that. And to try to get this turned around, it's going to be tough.
SPEAKER 11 :
I agree 100%. I think the challenge these people you're talking about that are frustrated is because of the role of their jobs. Everybody has their job to do, and they react according to how things affect them, right? We talk about that all the time. How does it affect me and my house or my work? And if you're a CEO of a company and you're publicly traded on the stock exchange, you're expected to do things like have your stock price go up, right? Nobody likes a CEO who's guiding a ship down that's sinking. You're also supposed to be able to do something called give guidance. So every quarter you come out and you report how your company did, which is great, but that's historical news, and you're supposed to give guidance to say this is what we expect for the next quarter and the one after that. Well, companies are having trouble doing that because they don't know if the tariffs are going to be there or they're not, so it's hard to give guidance, right? And when you can't give guidance, you almost look like you don't know what you're doing. And that ties into that certainty thing, and it makes their job hard, and at some points it makes their stocks go down. And that puts a lot of pressure on these CEOs because they don't want to lose their jobs. And so all of a sudden it becomes, I totally get what Trump's doing, I support him, but it's starting to rock my own boat, and I don't like that. And that's what happens, and you can't blame them because they're worried about what's happening in their office.
SPEAKER 07 :
But there is the bigger macro thing, and that is that we were headed towards disaster. We've got to get this spending under control. We've got to get this debt reduced. We've got to move back to liberty for everyday people. And I think what we're talking about is the tension between the macro and the micro, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and you're right. I mean, That's true, Kim. The challenge is if you're the CEO of this company, whatever company that might be, and you're seeing this through and you believe in it, but in the meantime your stock is going down and you can't give guidance, and God forbid, lo and behold, they go to a new CEO and all of a sudden you're out of your job. And then the country turns around and everything's great, but you're still out of a job. That doesn't work in your micro world, right? Right. The only example I can give you is this happening. I used to be a real estate agent as well, work hawking 15 years ago. And an example would be if you have someone that is listing your house for you and you tell them, I want to sell this house for a million dollars. And they suggest you sell it for $920,000. And you say, no, I want to do it for a million. So they list it for a million. It's on the market for a few months. Nobody buys it. You fire your agent because you don't think they're doing a good enough job. You hire a new agent who says, we should list this for $920,000. You agree with them this time and it sells for $920,000. The original agent didn't do anything wrong. They just got stuck in a situation that was untenable.
SPEAKER 07 :
paid the price for it you know something along those lines would be a similar example okay okay for these ceos you know yeah so we're in a we're in a historic time there's no doubt about it and in that though there is always opportunity and i so believe in home ownership uh instead of paying and if people want to pay rent that's certainly one thing But from public policy to have housing, again, making housing expensive for home ownership because of public policy, you know that I shed light on that all the time. And I love the idea of people being able to own their own property in order to do so. Getting a mortgage is most of the time necessary, and I would recommend that people give you a call. What's that phone number, Lorne Levy, to reach out to you for anything mortgages in all of the states except for New York?
SPEAKER 10 :
As always, just give us a call at 303-880-8881. Again, that's Lorne Levy, Everything Mortgages, 303-880-8881. We will talk next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force. And we do this because of our sponsors. And I so appreciate the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And it is Wednesday. So it's a Trent Luce Wednesday. And you know him, sixth generation farmer and rancher lives in Nebraska and for 20 plus years. has been shedding light on the challenges that the people that feed and fuel us, that rural America, rural Colorado are facing. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 14 :
Can't believe another week has gone by, Kim. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know, I know. And I have to say, I've been a little stressed about the conversation that we're going to have because you sent over in our text messages a video that you had done just recently regarding some of the stuff with the Trump administration. And I like so many of the things that Trump and company are doing. And yet I want to make sure we're within this whole our constitution. And so I've been a little stressed about this conversation. So let's jump into it. Let's talk about it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Why are you stressed? You just do what you can every day to fix it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I am, but I try to stay on the issues. So let's go to Pam Bondi. One of the things in your video, you kind of went after Pam Bondi. You said she was an animal rights activist. which I didn't know. But I also know that she's taken up the case of my friend Erin Lee regarding their daughter that was being targeted by the Poudre School District on this whole transgender agenda. And so I like Pam Bondi a lot for that. So I think that's where I'm struggling is I really like this over here and I don't like this part. And so that's where I'm stressed.
SPEAKER 14 :
I see that as their clear path of doing enough things that people really love. For example, deporting illegals. If you're illegal in this country, you don't belong here. And yet they're taking that to a whole new level. They're doing enough things that you really like that you don't want to dislike where they're crossing the boundaries of constitutional law. I have personal interactions with Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi was the reason that Greyhound Racing was shut down in Florida. And she was the attorney general at the time. And she partnered with another person that you won't like the fact it's Laura Trump, Donald Trump's daughter-in-law. And when after Pam Bondi and Laura Trump championed and banned Greyhound Racing in the state of Florida, I had state legislators from around the country, like Michigan and different places, that said, I just got a call from Laura Trump. And this is when Donald Trump was still president in the first term. And she said she's representing the White House, calling, asking me to generate animal rights initiatives as bills into our state statute. Why would she do that? They've been working behind the scenes. And by the way, Then what happened after that? Donald Trump signed in his first presidency a signed legislative action which made animal abuse, animal neglect, animal crimes of any type a federal offense. In fact, if you go look at what that federal offense did, it actually gave more punishment to people who neglect their dog than neglect their kid. And that's all a direct result of what I witnessed and was a part of in Florida. And then I saw this play out and just expand. And Pam Bondi at that time was pulled into the first Trump administration, even though she had duties in Florida, and it was pretty well known how this was all going to play out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so the risk on this, I think we all agree that we shouldn't abuse animals, right? Absolutely. So how this potentially could play out, so maybe that's where they're at, is that we should not abuse animals, but we should also not be aborting children. I just want to mention that. One of the things, I think Dennis Prager said this, I'll attribute it to him, hopefully correctly, that People that love animals may not necessarily love children, but people that love children typically always love animals as well. I thought that was an important statement that he made. Again, I'm doing that from memory. So we agree we should not abuse animals. And instead of codifying that into law, that should be really more of a cultural thing, that we do not abuse animals. The problem is, then, as I'm trying to connect the dot, as you have this over here, and then you and I have talked about it, regarding what was that potential piece of legislation or initiative that was going to be proposed in Colorado that would consider it... animal abuse to do the husbandry things that our farmers and ranchers do to produce food. So am I connecting that dot? Is that why you're concerned about this?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. OK, first of all, this is not about supporting animal abuse. This is about saying that we don't need a federal crime for an animal abuse case that occurs in Adams County, Colorado. And secondly, when you start making it a federal offense instead of a state or county offense, which it's perfectly set up now to be a state crime, if you abuse animals, you potentially are going to be charged and convicted, if guilty, in the state. What is the benefit of the federal action? Zero. And what happens when you have the federal action is exactly what you just said. which, by the way, we defeated that temporarily in Colorado, but Oregon has a mirror image of that particular legislation in Oregon, which is a ballot initiative. And that language actually says that it is illegal if this ballot initiative were to pass. It is illegal to consume an animal until it dies a natural death. We have so confused the role of animals and distinguished them between people. People are God's chosen creature. But he put all of us here to interact. And so to say that the abuse of an animal is a greater crime than the abuse of a human being, I can't tolerate that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And we are to be good stewards. God says we are to be good stewards of our earth. So as you're saying this, and I know we need to go to break here, but okay, we're going to go to break and I'm going to keep this as a cliffhanger. You will not want to miss the next part of this conversation with Trent Luce. All these discussions happen because of our sponsors. I'm so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as new sponsors because they are focusing on bringing these voices together and to support our Second Amendment. And why is the Second Amendment there? So that everyday people can keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors.
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SPEAKER 08 :
I miss maybe.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And tomorrow is the golf tournament for the USMC Memorial Foundation and Teresa Irby, who is handling our partnership liaison relationships for the Kim Munson Show. She and I will be out there for lunch, and we'd love to have you join us. You can get a lunch ticket by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I think there's still a few spots for golfers as well. So check that out there. I'm talking with Trent Luce, sixth-generation farmer and rancher. And, Trent, you did a video earlier this week, Dakota Trails, talking about concerns with some of the Trump appointees. And you've had a lot of people that have responded to you on this, yes?
SPEAKER 14 :
I have had a massive number of people respond. Shockingly, not one person chewed me out. You're the closest thing to that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, next thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the way, I just want to add one other thing before we leave Pam Bondi.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
As a direct result of Florida shutting down Greyhound Racing, that today there are two tracks still left in existence, both in West Virginia.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the premise of all that was that the animals were abused. How would you address that?
SPEAKER 14 :
The animals are not abused. Every greyhound has an adoptive home after the fact. The people who raise and breed greyhounds have done a tremendous job at making sure that there is life after the race for these animals. And to say that you somehow abuse them in racing them, this is what dogs do. I have four dogs. I can see two of them at the moment. They're out and they race all the time. And if there's a rabbit, boom, they're off running after it. There is absolutely nothing abusive about the standard operating procedures that of racing. And it's no different than what you brought up where this is the danger that we're in, trying to eliminate our food supply. There are people that want to say that simple things like pregnancy testing a cow is abusive. And if that Colorado initiative had come to the forefront and passed, that would have been banned. Artificial insemination would be banned. All of these things, which have been standard operating procedure for generations, would now be considered abuse of the animal, and we cannot allow ourselves to go down that path. And what they did in Florida is absolutely an atrocity, and the place that we are today in elevating the status of animals above that of human beings, and that too is in the Bible.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Just one other thing, and this is somewhat facetious, but those that have been so concerned about animal rights, and I have that in air quotes, and want to move us over to eating insects, well, what made me think of this is when you said something about that in Oregon there's this proposal that we cannot eat an animal until it's died its natural death. Well, by that time, it doesn't... It doesn't probably have as much nutritional value and certainly probably doesn't taste good. But then would the next thing then be insect rights? Because obviously killing an insect before its natural death would be the same thing. And I know I'm being facetious, your comment on that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I think the average fly lives two months, so you'd have to eat it pretty quick. They need to be eating a baby. How are you going to balance that out?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well done. Next thing, two things that came in here. This came in from Jenny. She said, people are morally confused. And so would this abuse extend to prairie dogs that are plague-infested rodents that are destroying our lands? And the answer on that is yes. I know that there's been times where there's been proposals for developments for homes or whatever, and it's been difficult to get that approval because of prairie dogs. So what would you say to that?
SPEAKER 14 :
The most asinine prairie dog thing, and I lived on the Rosebud Reservation for five years. I dealt with prairie dogs every single day of my life when I was there. Every friend I have in ranching spent at least one night in the hospital because a horse stepped in a prairie dog hole. I lived with prairie dogs. But the most asinine thing I've ever heard about prairie dog management is that as the front range of Colorado is developing, they actually would take great big vacuums in there, suck the prairie dogs up, put them on a truck, and haul them to eastern Colorado and turn them loose. Now, that's not beneficial to anybody, and yet they did that in the name of protecting the prairie dog. They took more emphasis in the prairie dog than the people's places they released them on in the eastern part of Colorado.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which, again, is that's where people are raising food to feed us. Correct. And so it would make it more difficult for them. Next thing, this came in from another listener. She said she doesn't really like Pam Bondi. She supported red flag laws in Florida and was also part of the Epstein case as that played out and sat on her hands. I was not aware of either of those things. I'm very familiar with the red flag laws here in Colorado, and I also know that there were Republicans that were in support of the red flag law here, which I was adamantly opposed to, because basically the red flag laws have no due process. Somebody can be accused of something, and they may not even, at least how it worked out here in Colorado, not even know they've been accused of something. Law enforcement could come in and take their firearms unbeknownst to them, and then to try to get them back is extremely difficult. So I am pretty anti-red flag laws across the board, and I can't think of one I would support. I'd have to look at it. And again, I don't know this about Pam Bondi. You may, of course, the listener that submitted this, she's very informed. So I do not like that support of the red flag laws.
SPEAKER 14 :
She's absolutely right. When you start peeling the onion on Pam Bondi, you're not going to like anything about her, to be honest. I mean, just take that Epstein thing. Everybody was so happy that we got Trump and his team in office. Now we're finally going to have a discovery on the Epstein files. When's that going to happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, good point. Good point. Okay, let's continue on. And again, Trump, I love what he's doing regarding immigration. The fact that we have had all these illegals that have come into our country, I think is one of the things is to affect our elections with both putting them in different areas to increase population. And then I've been concerned about certainly if we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And so there's that component. But I love the fact that they're going after these people that have come into America to hurt us. And so I really do support him on that. And he's done some really great things regarding getting rid of rules and regulations. So there's a lot of things I like about him. But you mentioned Doug Burgum. from north dakota and when he was appointed uh now let's see what's his position i uh he's director of interior department of interior okay i had concerns about that because of his relationship with bill gates and so you have concerns about him as well oh i i know doug bergham personally
SPEAKER 14 :
as I do Kristi Noem, and the people of both of those states are so happy to get rid of both of them. It's just jubilation all over again. And I got a Kristi Noem story that happened over the weekend that's quite interesting. But Doug Burgum, he sold his business, his Great Plains Software, to Bill Gates and was a vice president of Microsoft for 12 years. Bill Gates was his largest financial contributor in both of his gubernatorial runs. Bill Gates gave him an open checkbook to run for president of the United States. And he is now part of this energy group that they established with EPA director, Department of Energy director, Doug Burgum, Department of Interior, and USDA. And they came out of this four- or two-day meeting in Oklahoma at Oklahoma State University, the Harold Hamm Institute, and said that our number one goal is to be the global leader in artificial intelligence. That completely flies in the face of what they're doing to disassemble our reliable, sustainable supply of electricity. It is so energy dependent. It is a sucking sound like you've never heard before to continue to pursue these artificial intelligence centers. And so day one of Trump's administration, January 20, 2025, he writes an executive order about a state of emergency for our nation's energy. And it goes through everything that we agreed to, that we are depleting our reliable supplies of electricity. And then they come up with this plan. His team comes up with this plan to create the most electric intense consumption we've ever known demand. It doesn't make sense. While we have as a nation, we have now slipped below 16 percent of our electricity generated from coal. And we have 800 years worth of coal in the ground where we choose not to use it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, my understanding, though, is that Trump is saying dig, baby, dig and drill, baby, drill. And so he is.
SPEAKER 14 :
And yet the coal plants are shutting down and nothing is happening. He says that so that people continue to like what he says and what is happening on the ground does not reflect what comes out of his mouth.
SPEAKER 07 :
OK, OK. So what do we do about it?
SPEAKER 14 :
The same answer I have all the time. First of all, we recognize that he is not doing what he said he was going to do. I can't even find the details of this $600 billion deal he signed in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has had a plan very openly to be the global leader in fertilizer, the global leader in fuel. And my concern from day one has been that this whole boondoggle of CO2 pipelines to these ethanol plants is literally a Saudi Arabia takeover of our energy supply. And on the day that we have Iowa, which, by the way, we had good news coming out of Iowa this week, by a vote of 27 to 22 in the Iowa Senate, they also passed similar to what South Dakota did, saying that no eminent domain can be used for CO2 pipelines. It's now waiting for Governor Reynolds to sign that, which I believe is less than a 50% chance she'll sign it, I think that she'll veto it. But the same day the Iowa Senate passes this, the Energy and Commerce Committee in D.C. is following up on the Trump executive order for a state of emergency, and they are talking about federalizing all pipelines so that no state can refuse eminent domain. And this flies in the face of what the people want. And I predicted that, Kim. I can actually – I don't want to sound braggadocious – But I said after about a week of South Dakota passing 1052, which said no eminent domain for CO2 pipelines, I predicted that we would see a federalization of CO2 pipelines and the federal government would tell the states, we don't care what you say, you're going to take them. And that is exactly what is happening at every turn. We have a guy running this country like a king instead of representing the will of the people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gosh, I hope you're wrong on this. It's important that we shed light on this. One of the things, you mentioned the word emergency. I was over at the CUT board meeting on Monday night, and I do, very quickly, I've got to say thank you to these people because they're amazing. what they have done during this legislative session, looking at these bills. We're getting ready to work on our ratings report, which is labor-intensive. We do this for free, and we pay our memberships to do so as well, which is $25 a year. You might think we're all crazy, but I think that's what happens with patriots. But we'd love to have you join us. It's $25, and you can go to coloradotaxpayer.org to do so. But when you see these folks out there, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And Russ came up to me before we started the meeting and he said, do you know what the most dangerous word is from someone in the government? And I was thinking of the Reagan quote, which is more than one word, is I'm from the government and I'm here to help. He said the most dangerous word is emergency. And I think he's right. We saw that with COVID. And whenever you see the word emergency, and of course, that's another one of the things that they've used down here at the Colorado Statehouse with the safety clause, indicating it's an emergency, putting that safety clause on so that the piece of legislation cannot be reviewed by the people of Colorado. So whenever I see that word emergency now, I'm going to have big red flags, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 14 :
Who was the first person in the United States to coin the term emergency with COVID?
SPEAKER 07 :
It was Trump, wasn't it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 07 :
I still think he got played by Fauci.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can think that all day and night, Kim. But he continues to stand up for the jabs that Operation Warp Speed created. I've heard him personally. on different freedom calls and still stand by his plan to get everybody jabbed for COVID. He can't tell me that he's just being played.
SPEAKER 07 :
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Now, welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. They're going to have an On Values presentation on May 28th in honor of Memorial Day. And Memorial Day is a time to stop and remember those that have given their lives for our country. And so you can get more information about that event by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. So, Trent, several things coming in on the text line. One is regarding, we were talking about Pam Bondi, and she was behind getting greyhound racing stopped in Florida. This listener said, lots of euthanized dogs due to non-performance on the track. Enough for one per two students at a pre-vet school in the 80s. And this person said they only had to share their dog cadaver with From the Loveland track with one other person, perhaps Greyhound Adoption Group stepped in after that. So it sounds like there was something that was abusive. What's your thoughts, your comments on that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Euthanizing a dog is abusive?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, but because of non-performance, that seems a little much, yeah?
SPEAKER 14 :
Euthanizing a dog... that then is used in a vet school to learn on students that dog is still providing a valuable use. The question is right. They quit doing that in the 80s. We don't do a lot of things that we did in the 80s. But you brought up something that I have great concern about. Did you know that there's only one vet school, Iowa State University, that still uses cadavers for teaching students about real-world experiences? Yes. Every other school, every other vet school uses a simulated model, and you cannot teach with the same degree of precision these vet students with a simulated model. And Iowa State, I've been at Iowa State. I've spoke to their Iowa State vet school. I've been in the lab. I've seen how these students excel. They fight every day to keep using cadavers in that vet school to teach students to learn to help other dogs be better and help them heal. That's part of the process.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so a couple of questions. First of all, well, I just have to mention this, and that is I know at least they used to. I think they still do. Hanchu's Medical Center would use baby body parts for research. I actually saw the invoices for that. So I think that's important. And then don't we still use human cadavers in medical school?
SPEAKER 14 :
I can't speak to that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don't know the answer. If any of you know the answer on that, let me know. Then this came in from another listener says that they think that you've you've you're unhinged. And so I'm trying to give everybody their their voice here. And then another listener said, I so hope that you're wrong, Trent. But I am concerned that the COVID vaccine has not been banned yet. and growing concerned about that. And then somebody just recently said that, that on the CD schedule for children, that the COVID vaccine is on there, which really concerns me as well. So how, I hope you're wrong on this. I have to say I was very concerned about this headline I saw the other day that Trump was postulating getting rid of our constitutional right of habeas corpus. And again, over this illegal immigration, I know that Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War, and I'm not really comfortable with that either. So I think what it is, is we have a. duty to be vigilant on this. I like a lot of the things that Trump is doing. The things that you're bringing up, I'm concerned about. So we need to be shedding light on this and make sure that we're pulling all of our electeds towards the Constitution and towards this American idea, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 14 :
Scott Bassett is the Secretary of Treasury. Do you know who he worked for before he came to work for Trump?
SPEAKER 07 :
Who?
SPEAKER 14 :
George Soros for 12 years. He was his first lieutenant. and he's now Secretary of our Treasury. He comes out of the London banking system, but was a direct employee and was his right-hand man. Howard Ludnick, before he became Secretary of Commerce, you know what he did?
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
He founded Canton Fitzgerald, which owns 800 different businesses, including NextEra Energy, which is out here in the country, destroying our countryside, placing easements everywhere. and doing things. NextEra is the most ruthless I've come in contact with as they continue to build these wind and solar developments around this country. And what do they do that for? For the production tax credits that they get from 45Q. So do you think this Trump team is going to be opposed to these easements for transmission lines, which are a direct result of wind and solar, when his right-hand man, the Director of Commerce, is getting a subsidy to do it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so bottom line is this goes back to we've got to get rid of these tax credits, tax incentives, grants, and that's across the board. We've got to get rid of those. And I did just do a quick search. This is from Wikipedia. It says that Scott Ascent is an American former hedge fund manager. um that he was a formerly a partner at soros fund management and founded key square group a global macro investment firm um and that he in 1991 was hired by soros fund management um i i i that connection is certainly of great concern and so we've got to watch what's going on there and uh Certainly a lot of food for thought. And I think we've got a caller. Yes, Joe. Oh, Gammy's on the line. Gammy, welcome. What's on your radar? Hi.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, guys. I haven't been so well, so I'm not screaming. Trent Luce isn't crazy. None of us is crazy. Half of the people that are vying for Trump's position are are connected to bad sorts, and that is why the only hope we have is to go local and control our states, our cities, and make it clear that we're not going to comply because they are doing jabs still, and they know they're wrong. Everyone from David Martin on proved this is a bioweapon. But these people are globally trillionaires. They're not going to let go of the power. So they're fooling everybody. And it is up to us to do this. because it ain't going to come from up there. They don't want us to have control, and they'll sabotage Trump and me and you and Trent and everybody, because they still have the World Economic Forum agenda, whites, Soros. They are going to kill us. So either we wake up and realize it's a war for our children and fight, or we're screwed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, Gammy, I appreciate you calling in, and I know it's a real effort. So I really thank you for doing that. And we have just about a minute left. And this came in. It says, Trent, I'm a huge Trump fan, and I just want to say thank you for being a truth teller. We get so caught up in defending Trump from the Marxist attacks that we can miss these issues, which should hold his feet to the fire. And so, again... That is our responsibility. And there are many things that Trump and company are doing. And I really appreciate him for that. And then the things that that we are concerned about. Yes, I agree. We hold his feet to the fire. 30 seconds, Trent Luce. I appreciate I appreciate the conversation.
SPEAKER 14 :
If something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I wonder where you have heard that. I am total agreement on that. And tax incentives, tax credits are a form of force. So it's not a good idea, and so we need to get rid of those. Trent Luce, it's always interesting. Have a great week, and we'll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thanks, Kim. Have a great week.
SPEAKER 07 :
And our quote for the end of the show is from Mark Twain. He said this. He said, the two most important days in your life are the day that you are born and the day that you find out why. And so, my friends, today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode of The Good News, Angie Austin welcomes Scott Montgomery to explore the concept of unconventional success. Scott shares his personal journey and the lessons captured in his book, focusing on partnerships and communication at home and work. With a personal touch, the episode also dives into the importance of gratitude and preventative healthcare, featuring insightful segments with Jim Stovall and Bob Blancato. Prepare to be inspired and informed with practical tips to enhance your personal and professional life.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, it's Angie Austin and Jim Stovall. Today is my lucky day because I get to talk to Jim Stovall. I love our time together, Jim. It's so much fun. You're my favorite interview in the United States of America, including Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you're very, very kind. And as you would know, we met more than a decade ago when I was doing hundreds and hundreds of radio interviews for one of my books. And I formed an addiction to Angie Austin very quickly, so I'm glad to do these every week.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's the best. All right, so this week we're talking about your column titled Self-Standards. So tell us what you're teaching us this week, Jim.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, we all live up to standards, and we talked in a recent conversation about having a higher standard, moving the standard up. And I think, you know, I'm like anyone else. I don't like people putting restrictions and deadlines and all those things on me. I don't like those any better than anybody else. So the thing I do to avoid that is I come up with my own standard. You know, my taxes are not due April 15th, and then we always get an extension to October 15th. But mine are not due. The extension is not due April 15th. It's due April 1st. And my final tax return in my meeting with my accountants is on October 1st, even though I have until October 15th. That's for everybody else. That's not my problem. I mean, I set my own standards. And people that I see who are successful in life, they have a standard for things that can cause problems. You know, how much am I going to eat? How much am I going to sleep? How much am I going to drink? How much am I going to exercise? They have a standard for all these things. that they impose on themselves. Nobody's telling them what to do. They put a standard on themselves. And one of the things I like about my morning routine, and most people who are successful have some kind of routine, is I get up in the morning before 4 o'clock, and there's no excuse at 4 in the morning. No one's interrupting me. No one's bothering me. And if I don't do the things I set out to do, I get no one to blame but me. But it's my own standard. I set it up. And It's important that we be true to ourselves because if I lie to me, I'll lie to you. And the real lies are the ones we tell ourselves. And we don't fail because we don't know what to do, Angie. We fail because we don't do what we know. Most times when we make a mistake or we stumble or we do something we shouldn't have done, if we're really honest with ourselves, we can look back and say, you know, I knew better than that. Very rarely does the truth trip us up because we didn't know about it. It trips us up because we didn't act upon it. We didn't do what we were supposed to do. So I think having your own standards is really, really important. And for years, I traveled with a young lady named Nancy. She owned a multi-million dollar multinational company, and I consulted with her. And she traveled with you? Oh, yeah. Nancy and I, Angie, we went everywhere.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, that was a Freudian slip, because I'll get to be the traveler someday. When I retire from radio, I'll be your traveler.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I traveled with her, but I was doing her events. I mean, you've got to know that these were people in her corporation I was speaking to, but we haven't traveled together. And she always... To this day, she looks like a fashion model. She's gorgeous, and she's a great advertisement for her own company. And I said, have you ever had trouble with your fitness, with your weight, with exercise? No, no. And after, when you travel with someone day in, day out, you get to know their habits pretty well. She was always up early, working out in the hotel suite or in the gym downstairs. And then, you know... I started finding her rules, you know. I said, hey, do you want some bread? No, I only have one piece a day. Do you want another drink? No, I only have one glass. And I said, you got a rule for everything? She said, yeah. But it's my own rule. I don't impose it on anybody else. I just, you know, it's what I do. And, you know, I find that most people who are successful, they have those rules. And, you know, when I meet with my attorneys at the end of every year, You know, I said, hey, I appreciate you guys setting this up for me. Every year, right after we shut down for the holidays, you know, we sit down and go through wills, estates, trusts, all my contracts and everything else. And he said, well, this is the thing we do. A lot of our successful clients want to do this. And you find that people who are successful, they have placed these standards on themselves. And, you know, I remember I did an event with Billy Graham once, and I got to talk with him. What an amazing guy. I mean, Jim, a farmer –
SPEAKER 08 :
a farmer's kid who became the pastor to so many great presidents. I almost got to go to his library two weeks ago, but it was closed. But anyway, yes, that man's amazing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, yeah. And I was talking to him and I introduced him to the young lady who was traveling with me on that particular event. And, you know, he introduced me to a guy he was with and his wife was over there. And I said, look, I is it true that you have not been alone with a woman other than your wife in 50 years? He said, yeah, that's correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amazing.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I said, explain why. And he said, well, it's a rule I put on myself. Nobody else does. But he said, I just feel like this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm called to do this in my life. And, you know, he said, I can't risk it all because he said, she said, somebody said, somebody's got a photo or whatever. And obviously I'm here with a young lady and Crystal's on a trip to Europe. And he said, well, if I were you, I would do what you're doing. No, I have no problem with that. It's just that I'm in the ministry and I don't get a second chance. I mean, he said in the first century, Jim. They used to feed Christians to the lions, and now he said, we just eat each other is all we do. We don't need the lions. We attack one another. And he said, I have to be above reproach. I have to be bulletproof. And he said, this is how I do it. I just cannot. He said, look at the other major ministers who were brought down due to a scandal. And if anybody says anything about me, We just pulled out the calendar and said, who was with Dr. Graham at that time? And we always have a standard. And I thought, what an amazing thing. And, you know, it extends to everybody. And I'm not saying, you know, if you're... You know, you have a standard for what you eat, you drink, how much you sleep, and your exercise. Hey, you go on vacation. Yeah, you give yourself a break. You do what you do. It's your standard. You get to set the rules. But, you know, and people tell me, Jim, I don't like to have a standard. Well, then the law and other people and your employer, they'll put a standard on you. If you don't set one on yourself, someone else will set it, and I'd just rather have my own.
SPEAKER 08 :
I love it. I love it. All right, so what do you want our takeaway to be from this week's column, Self-Standards?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I think what I would like – think about the most important things in your life and think about what you know to do. We all know how to be healthier, wealthier, happier. We all know things we could do to do that. And I would encourage you to think about those things and set a standard yourself. Make a rule for yourself that you have to be the only one that knows about it. And then start living your life by your rules instead of somebody else's. It's amazing when you live life on your own terms. And it's so much easier. If someone told me, Jim, you've got to get up at 4 o'clock and start exercising and then go through all these routines, I thought, you're crazy. I'm not doing that. But, no, it's my standard. It's my standard.
SPEAKER 08 :
I love it. JimStoval.com, such a blessing to have you on the show. Every week you give me a little boost of inspiration. Thank you, friend. You're the best.
SPEAKER 02 :
Be well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. Always love talking to Jim Stovall. You know, I mentioned, I'm sure over the last decade, several times that golden list that his grandmother gave to him that he was, especially when he was going blind and he'd come to his grandma with his complaints or, worries and stressors. And she'd say, I will listen to all of your worries, complaints, et cetera, after you do your golden list. So I want you to write down the 10 things you're thankful for. And to this day, he still does the golden list every day. I know because sometimes I'm on it and sometimes he's on mine. I cut it down for my kids down to five. And when I'd always tell the kids when grandma was angry, when she was driving them to school, when they were younger and to say, hey, grandma, let's do the golden list. What are you thankful for? And it would immediately change her mood. Speaking of grandma living with us, you know, I really take her to a lot of a doctor's appointments and make sure that she has all of her vaccines. And I don't know if you are aware of this, but 1.4 million Americans go to the emergency room with pneumonia and 40,000 die from this vaccine preventable disease each year. Seriously, 40,000. So joining us is an expert in the area. Bob Blancato is joining us. Bob is the executive director with the National Association of Nutrition and Aging Services Programs. And I just really like to get in medical advice, good news, prevention, health. And I think that a lot of times we overlook some of these vaccines. I did get my mom the pneumonia vaccine, but I didn't get it. But I'm getting, I'm sure, to the age when I'm supposed to be more aware of these things too. So just a quick interview to really, you know, give you some simple facts and a simple way to prevent pneumonia, keep yourself healthy, keep yourself out of the ER with pneumonia, and from becoming one of those stats of the 40,000 who die from vaccine preventable disease, that vaccine preventable disease each year. So joining us now, Bob Blancato. Welcome, Bob. All right, Bob. So why is pneumococcal disease a serious threat to adults? Explain that to us.
SPEAKER 01 :
Most of all, it's a common bacterial infection that causes mild complications. But for some people, it can lead to very serious illnesses like pneumonia. And we know in this country that we're 1.4 million hospital visits are resulting from pneumonia and up to 40,000 deaths occur. So this is a very serious issue that we want to address today through talking about vaccines.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. What should adults know about current vaccine recommendations?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, mostly good things to talk about. One is the Centers for Disease Control late last year now recommends pneumococcal vaccines for all adults age 50 and over, not just people 65 and over. Pneumococcal vaccines can be administered with other vaccines such as shingles, flu or RSV vaccines at the same time during a health care visit. And Medicare, Medicaid, and most insurance cover the cost of pneumococcal vaccines, and they can be given at any time of the year. And so having all these options make it clear that people can pursue these vaccines and should do so as quickly as possible.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, Bob, let's talk about why vaccines are an important part of preventative care to help all adults stay healthy.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, first of all, getting vaccinated can shorten, should you actually have to go to a hospital, it can shorten your hospital stay considerably. But it could probably avert the hospital stay to begin with. And it also helps to reduce other medical costs that could you know, compared if you didn't get vaccinated. And the idea is that, you know, you should not wait until you have some of the symptoms that could lead to pneumonia. The opportunity is available all year long to get the vaccine. And if you have any doubt, you know, get the vaccine and, you know, then be comfortable knowing that you have been vaccinated and you have less chance of contracting pneumococcal disease.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. What else should adults 50 plus know about steps that they can take to protect their health?
SPEAKER 01 :
The answer is all about prevention. Let's start with the vaccines. Keeping up with your recommended vaccines like pneumococcal and shingles and making sure you're on track with recommended screenings. You know, we know that by age 50, all women should have had a breast cancer screening and all adults should have been screened for colorectal cancer. Preventative care, it's all the critical issue, like regular checkups and screenings can catch health issues early when they're easier and cheaper to treat and manage. And vaccines and screenings aren't just about avoiding illness. They're about protecting your independence and staying active. And just we need to make sure that people are aware of the vaccine policies that we have and the ability to get as many vaccines as possible without cost being incurred to the individual.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, great information today, Bob Lontado. Thank you so much for joining us. Where can we go to learn more?
SPEAKER 01 :
I'll give you two locations, NANAS, National Association of Nutrition and Aging Service Programs, www.nanas.org slash vaccines, or the CDC site, the Centers for Disease Control site, cdc.gov slash pneumococcal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Excellent. Again, thank you, Bob, for joining us on The Good News with Angie Austin. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you very much.
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Rocky Ford is tuned to the mighty 670 KLT. Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the Good News. Well, he is back, Scott Montgomery, author of How Did You Get Here? Lessons of Unconventional Success. And we decided we're going to keep having Scott come back about once a month, and we're going to go over the chapters of the book and kind of break down success and how you got here in life and these lessons of unconventional success. Welcome back, Scott.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, Angie. It's such a pleasure to be here, and I'm so looking forward to it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, give everyone just a little snippet, if they didn't hear our first interview, just how you got to where you are because your path was unconventional.
SPEAKER 06 :
It really was. And as it was unconventional, I was trying to figure out a way that I could pay that forward to other folks who feel like maybe their path is a little unconventional. So during COVID and in the process of some of life's changes, I decided to put pen to paper and start to unpack those lessons. As I'm older in my career and starting to look at retirement years ahead, I thought, how can I capture what was unconventional and make it conventional for my readers and for the next generation. So I put pen to paper and created a book, and I think it's going over well for folks. And I'm excited to talk about its different chapters and the different things that I found drove some of the successes that I'm experiencing today.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. You've talked a lot about the people you work with and some of them you work with many years ago and how important all of those connections are. So let's just start, you know, we've got chapter one is partnership, two relationships, three habits, four goals. We'll be going through all of those, but let's see how far we get today in partnership from how did you get here?
SPEAKER 06 :
So what I did with partnerships was I started at home base, and I really went into the deep dive on how my wife and I, who is also the president of the company that I'm the chief customer officer at, really created a partnership over the last 20 years to manage kids, manage ourselves and our own interests, manage the finances, and do it all successfully. And so I dedicated a chapter to what did we do in our relationship in hindsight that people might want to consider doing for their relationships Or as I put them, partnerships in their world to drive some of their successes. And at the end of the chapter, I put five questions to the reader that sort of drive the instigation of what are you doing to be in good partnership? And I think it's going over well. So that first chapter is mostly about home base.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, so when you say partnership, exactly. You're talking about home and how it's important that things flow well there in order to do well in business. But I just have to ask you a quick question because we're kind of in the same kid stage. You said 20 years. Have you guys been married 20 years?
SPEAKER 06 :
We're going to be 24. We got married in 2000. We're going to be 24 years married. We dated for four years before that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so did we, and we were at 20 years of marriage just a few days ago.
SPEAKER 06 :
What's your birthday? Because I swear we're living the exact same parallel life.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know our kids are getting their driver's license. You just went for a driver's license test. I'm going today with one of my kids. Your son just graduated. My son just graduated. I mean, it is pretty funny. We're definitely dealing with the same things in our home base. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and that partnership is really important, and I think people underestimate its power.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I agree. I think they do underestimate its power because I've thought before, if things aren't going well at home, I don't know how anything else can go well. So I think it just trickles its ugly veins into everything if things are going poorly at home. So give us some of your tips for Chapter 1 partnership.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, so what comes up for me in our conversation, and you just said it yourself, was I really did not rush the marriage card. I dated for four years, and I think you just said you did as well. And we really unpacked where we were in life and what we wanted in life, and we really worked on our communication. And when we got married, we had vowed divorce was not an option. So we said that word isn't to be used in fights, and it's not to be used. And it sounds all quintessential and wonderful, but it's actually a true commitment to to what we did when we decided to get married. And we actually started our life together in a separate than where either of us grew up place to create that sort of fresh start or new foundation. And I think for me, that's what comes up in that initial tip of really vet out what it is you're looking for in a partner. And then further, for Kate and I, my wife's name is Caitlin, and I call her Katie. Kate is very much a string to my kite. We very, we very much carried two different roles in our world. She definitely grounds my visionary and she's very tactical and very implementing and very, I'm very strategic and I'm out there trying to find the next best thing. And she's very like, what does that mean? How do we apply it? How do we integrate it? And she doesn't start with no. So it's not an oppressive thing, but I refer to it as a kite and string. I'm flying up in the air and she's got the string kind of keeping me grounded. And I think that's a really nice balance for us that I tell stories about in the book.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, how do you and you can tell one of the stories here, too. How do you manage it when the string wants to take the kite somewhere the kite doesn't want to go? I mean, there's lots of like, you know, my husband liked me working full time in TV news. I made good money and I was a big contributor. And now when I do radio, I make a fraction of what I used to make and I don't work that many hours. And yeah. I'm with the kids a lot more than he is able to be with the kids, and that wasn't his choice, I don't think, but he's adjusted to it. He's flown his kite to my string, but he wouldn't have wanted to go in that direction, but now that it is, he's fine with it, but I thought he'd really be bothered by... He loved that I was a good contributor and that I was good with my money and that I saved a lot for retirement and that I owned properties over the years and paid cash for my cars and didn't drive brand new cars. And he liked all that frugal stuff I did to save. So I figured, oh, he's not going to like this. In fact, when I would say, well, I want to work part-time or I want to retire, he'd say, well, I want to retire. Well, I don't think that's really solving. I was not solving my issue. That was not every time I brought it up. Oh, I'd like to work part time or retire or spend more time with the kids. Well, I'd like to retire. And so I'm like, OK, that's not saying it's OK for me to do that. So what do you do when I just kind of eventually did it? It kind of was decided for me as my career changed and things cut back. So it gradually kind of happened to me, regardless of what he wanted. And then I accepted it. I didn't go out and look for another big, you know, 50 hour a week job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, what's funny about what you're talking about for me is that I have a lot of friends in our age group who have brought with them, I'm losing the word, the ability to pivot, right? The unforeseen and the unexpected. And just the other day, a friend of mine said, well, my husband isn't working right now. I've told him to go get a job. But realizing what the summer is going to hold with my kids and my career, and I'm the breadwinner. It's just better he doesn't even look for a job right now. And quite frankly, we both then chuckled and said, can you imagine saying that 20 years ago? So, you know, just the ability to pivot and the ability to weigh the options that are laid out in front of you are so key. And one of the other things that I was going to say around that is that we're going to go over chapter six, communication and how you actually communicate your needs and desires and how that really does impact how you drive the future.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it can be all the difference in the world. My cousin has the most stubborn husband. And when I say like, oh, well, let's go to Florida with the cousins in February. Yeah. And we used to do it almost every year. And she's like, well, I've got to plant the seed. So like six months before, and then she goes, I have to work on him for a while. Like six months before we do something, she'd plant the seed. And then I think she just kind of like, it's like gnawing on an ear of corn. She'd gradually gnaw him down. And then he finally, and then she would have to like make every meal. Make every dessert. Place it in the freezer with a note. This is how you warm this up. This is the day you eat this by yourself, taking care of only you. I am going to map out each of your days the way I do when I am at home.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then finally... That's good communication right there, isn't it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh my gosh. He thinks he's running the show, but she is. It just takes her a very, very long time to run it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. No, and I think that is a form of communication. Whether or not you and I would want that form of communication is a different story. It would be exhausting. I can't imagine. And we all have to bring that sort of ability to pivot. But what it sounds like for me and what you're describing too is, quite frankly, my kids are better served by their mom being more available than their dad. I can't remember all the things that moms bring in their genetic coding that is supporting those kids more effectively. And that has a cost. And that cost is a better reward in my children than it is a dollar sign in my checking account. And I think that's the parallel you're in, too. And now, while Caitlin is the president of WorldGate, we were very succinct in what the roles here would be. She's the president. She's a co-founder. But she's also in charge of finance and HR, which creates flexibility for doctor's appointments and kid demands. I'm sales and marketing and operation. I've got to deliver and I've got to do it around my customer, which means I've got to get on a plane and go somewhere. then now we've communicated that well and we charted that out up front. And it has its...
SPEAKER 08 :
potholes but yes it has this pot it always does but then you just somebody's better driving around the potholes or filling them than the other but it's interesting to me because I just did an interview with the author of men are like spaghetti women are like no sorry men are like waffles women are like spaghetti and I only got to interview Bill the waffle and not and not Pam the spaghetti but it's interesting because he talks about men and how each square of the waffle like you only work on the one square and And when you finish that square, you move on to the next square. But women, everything in their lives are connected and they can do a bunch of things at once. And like just as you were talking, saying about multitasking, I'm like, oh, we need eggs. So I wrote down eggs, you know, like it's just.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's a gift. I mean, you know, recognize your gifts and your partner. Right, right, right. And play to those strengths. And what is the outcome? I wanted healthy kids. I wanted kids that had access to their mom. She wanted to be more of a mom than a business person. We still needed to make money. And she also still didn't want to detach from the working world.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, and we could do that all when we got a client base versus being an employer. And that was part of the strategy of even opening Worldgate, which is also one of the chapters of our book later at the end. We talk about the firm and how it's developed, but. You'd be surprised, and people who are listening today would be surprised how many clients respect that model as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, I believe that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how much they in themselves are trying to map their employment as a client to that model by engaging our services that brings that model. So it's fascinating. All right.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you are just joining us and we're talking to Scott Montgomery, how did you get here is the book. How did you get here? Lessons of unconventional success because, you know, Scott's path was unconventional. All right. So you said you had examples in chapter one partnership. We're talking about starting your success at home, at your home base. And in your particular case, you're married. So any examples that you gave us in the book that you might want to share with us?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think for us and I think what we were chatting about is the communication aspect and the personality awareness and the demand and desires of what we wanted to do were talked about up front. And so there was deliberate conversation around how we were going to invest our time, how we wanted to raise our children, and how we were going to map these things out. And people don't always appreciate that's a very tactical conversation for us that we found success as a result of having. It wasn't, I was just sort of morphed and I didn't know what she expected and she didn't know what I expected. We were very deliberate and we were very succinct in what we did and how we rolled out. We also rolled out our roles and responsibilities in that so that we felt a little bit of ownership around what we brought to the table. So I don't impose on what finance and HR, they tell me what I can spend and how many people I can hire and what I do. And at home, she tells me where I need to be and what doctor's appointment I have to drive the kid to or She tells me where to be and when, and I don't try and...
SPEAKER 08 :
disrupt that it just it just shows me Scott how similar men and women are because my husband he got sick of seeing the whole schedule and so like it's because it's complicated I mean yesterday Hope had three practices Riley had one and he had to be at CU and he had to be at his job and the other had two practices and they're all at different locations so that's five six seven seven locations so he just said look I just need to know where I need to be at what time that's right
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And so on the flip side of that, he'll make sure you have enough money to afford the gas.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And he'll make sure the cars have good tires and the oil is changed and I make all of the appointments and I get him his physical and his teeth cleaned and all that. So funny. All right, Scott, give us your website for how did you get here?
SPEAKER 06 :
It's www.HowDidYouGetHere.com.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's easy enough. All right, we'll talk to you next month, and we'll bump up to Chapter 2. Thanks, Scott. I look forward to it. Thank you, Angie. Have a great day.
SPEAKER 04 :
You too. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
SPEAKER 03 :
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Rick Hughes takes you on a compelling journey through the key stages of Christian life, from initial belief to spiritual maturity and beyond. This episode unpacks the concept of the exit resurrection, the importance of problem-solving devices, and the anticipation of eternal rewards. A must-listen for anyone looking to deepen their understanding and strengthen their faith-based practices.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to The Flotline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. For the next few minutes, hang in there, stay with us. It'll be 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, some education, a lot of education this morning, but absolutely no manipulation. We don't try to con anybody to do anything except maybe ask you to listen to us. If we can communicate the information you need to hear, if we can verify and identify the plan of God for your life, then you can orient and adjust to the plan if you'd like to do that. That's up to you. My job is not to convince you, to persuade you. My job is just to give you the facts. You're smart enough to figure it out on your own. You know whether or not it's true or not true, and you have a volition to You choose as part of the format of your soul. The volitional responsibility of the soul is critical. Whatsoever man sows, that he'll also reap, the Bible says, and though we have to make decisions every day of our life, And the most critical decision we'll ever make is what think ye of Christ, the Bible says. Is he the anointed son of God or is he not? So that's the question all of us have to answer. And that's why the Bible says, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved. 1 John 5, 3, he that believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. It's critical. It's the only way you'll ever get to heaven. Not by works of righteousness, which we've done, but by grace. That's the only way we ever get there. But according to his mercy, he saves us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit that he sheds on us abundantly through, by means of Jesus Christ our Lord. That being justified by grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope or confidence of eternal life. That's the verse in Titus 3, 5 through 7. So thank you for tuning in to The Flotline. Remember, we always tell you God gave you two ends. One of those ends you sit with, one of those ends you think with, and the most critical thing in life is sitting on the right end, thinking with the right end. If you think, then you got success. If you sit, heads you win, tails you lose. We always say that. So that's what it's about. When we talk about the flat line, it's the forward line of troops, the main line of resistance. in the soul of the believer, the believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, who wants to stop the outside sources of adversity before they convert to the inside source of stress. That's why we say adversity is inevitable, but stress is optional. If you will learn the 10 problem-solving devices we talk about on this radio show, rebound, learning to confess your sin, the filling of the Holy Spirit, learning how to walk in the Spirit, The faith thrust drill, learning how to live by faith. Grace orientation, accepting grace, using grace. Doctrinal orientation or biblical orientation, learning to think like the Lord Jesus Christ thinks. All of these give you a personal sense of destiny. And this is the door you walk through and begin to live for the Lord, not for yourself. That's motivated by your personal love for God, the greatest virtue you could have, and it's expressed with impersonal love for others, just like God loved you. You can love others, not based on who they are, but based on who you are. All of this leads to sharing the happiness of God, problem-solving device number nine, and number 10, being occupied with a person of Jesus Christ, replicating his life to those around you, representing Christ to a dying world. Those 10 problem-solving devices you should know. We have them in a bookmark. If you'd like a bookmark, you can stick in your Bible. Just write to us through our website, rickhughesministries.org. rickhughesministries.org. We'll send you a bookmark. Don't send money. We're not asking you for money. The Lord always supplies. We wait on the Lord, but this is not a trick question to get money. But if you'd like to have that bookmark, it'd be great to put it in your Bible and save it, okay? Now, we started talking last week about the different stages of life. We talked about stage one, and this is where you have to be saved. The beginning of the Christian life starts with stage one, and the stage one of every living creature, and that is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And you might not feel it when it happens. The justification that takes place when you put your faith alone in Christ alone is not an emotional thing. It's a fact whosoever should call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. So your journey with Christ begins with stage one, believing in him, accepting him as your savior. Then it moves to stage two. After you believe in Christ, what comes next? And we saw second Peter through 18 about growing in grace. We saw where the Lord Jesus Christ said the Holy spirit would come and be your helper. We saw the mandates about don't be drunk with wine, but be filled with the Spirit. We saw don't quench the Spirit, don't grieve the Spirit. And we saw the importance of the canon of Scripture. So we deducted that without spiritual growth, you would stay an infant in your Christian life and never be able to produce spiritual fruit, which is what God left you here, so you could do that. So advancing spiritually from being an infant believer to being a mature believer is not possible unless you are filled with the Holy Spirit, unless you have a clear understanding of what God requires. And that's where the gift of pastor-teacher comes in. Sometimes people tell me, I don't need a pastor, all I need is a Bible, and I go sit in the woods under a tree and I can figure it out. I doubt that. The Bible is a textbook, not a novel. There's no doubt any one of us could read the Bible and learn basic operating principles, but if we want to understand the mechanics of growth in Christian service, then you need a well-qualified pastor, not a spiritual cheerleader. Spiritual growth requires discipline, it requires sacrifice, and God uses people that are prepared. People particularly that know the languages, because it wasn't written in English, it was written in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. People that can do the isagogics, people that can do the exegesis, people that can explain to you what verses are there and what they mean. And our mission is to learn it and use it in our life. We use a concept called LAG, learn, apply it, and glorify God as a result. Now we want to talk today about stage three of the Christian life. Stage three is when you move from time to eternity. That's stage three. And it's very critical that you understand that stage as well. So let's move into stage three, starting with death or the exit resurrection, whichever one comes first. As a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, you may have heard the term rapture. better known as the exit resurrection. But the rapture is an exit resurrection, the Greek word ex-anastasis, by which we, members of the royal family of God, leave this earth. Now, every believer, anytime we die, that's a victory in the church age because of what God has done. And that's the victory we look forward to. Listen to what happens when you die, 1 Corinthians 15, 54. When it happens, without the exit resurrection, if you just die, if you get sick and die, live old and die, we're all gonna die, we know that. But the Bible says when this perishable, that's our human bodies, will have put on the imperishable, that's our resurrection body, and this mortal, human, will have put on immortality, eternal, then will come about the saying that is written, death has been swallowed up as a result of victory. Victory in Jesus Christ over death. Now, if the rapture takes place, that's a different thing. Same verse applies, we'll have victory over death, but if the rapture takes place, then the church will exit from earth and not return until the second advent of Christ, and then not again until after the Lord creates the new universe. So the exit resurrection is the final goal of the church, and God provides it in toto, meaning man cannot cause it, man cannot make it come to pass, man cannot cause the exit resurrection or the second advent. and we cannot convert the world because christ has to come back but god's timing does not have anything to do with man's volition men across the world have to decide the sovereignty of god the wisdom of god the power of god will bring about the rapture of the church the body of christ you and i when that day occurs no one knows now a lot of weirdos have tried to predict it But the Bible clearly says no one knows when it will occur. We'll get to the verse here in just a minute. But keep this in mind. Every believer gets a fair shake at the exit resurrection of the church at the rapture. when we get a resurrection body. Both the dead in Christ and even those that are alive at the rapture of the church all get resurrection bodies almost simultaneously. So if your grandmother passed away and the rapture occurs, boom, she's gonna get a resurrection body and you will too. But the eternal rewards and the eternal decorations that come are different for the spiritual believer and for the carnal believer. So Paul says in regards to the exit resurrection in 1 Thessalonians 4, this is stage three. We do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest that have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. And then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we evermore be with the Lord. That's the exit resurrection. That's the rapture of the church. It occurs at the end of what we know to be the church age. All church age believers, both alive and dead, will join the Lord Jesus Christ in the air. And no man knows the day or the hour of that. Meeting the Lord in a resurrection body will occur in the second heaven, the stellar universe, not on this earth. And so Jesus said in Revelation 22, 12, I'm coming soon, and my reward is with me to decorate each winter according to his accomplishments. Soon, soon. That refers to the imminency of this rapture that I'm speaking about, for there is no prophecy left to be fulfilled before it happens. And this verse says that mature believers, which we call winter believers, will receive blessings for eternity at the judgment seat of Christ. Every tongue is the last time there will be any equality in the royal family of God here. Every tongue. This event can be called the big genuflex in the sky because after this comes the judgment seat of Christ, which results in tremendous differences among believers who have resurrection bodies. But right here, Every tongue will confess, yes. There is equality at this point, but then from the future, mature believers will get rewards, immature believers will be minus rewards. So the judgment seat of Christ follows in heaven, while back on earth, you don't even wanna know what's going on, because it's called the tribulation. Thank the Lord we will not be here through this. We will come back with our Lord at the end of the tribulation, and rule and reign with him in his second advent called the millennial reign of Christ. Many people look at the USA today and say, oh, the time is short and the Lord's about to come back. Look what's happening. It is true that there are a lot of crazy, weird, gross things happening in America. And it is true the Lord Jesus Christ could come back today, tomorrow, the next day. But you cannot gauge the trends of history and determine that Christ is coming back. People have tried that before. It doesn't work that way. The trends of history can tell you that America might be about to fall, that America may go under as a free nation, that we may turn into a socialist nation or even be defeated by the communists. But it doesn't mean Christ is about to return. So let's keep that in mind. We have the exit resurrection, we have the tribulation going on on earth, and we have the judgment seat of Christ in heaven where you and I will be. 2 Corinthians 5.10, for we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one of us, that's members of the royal family of God, may receive what is due him, that's rewards, for the things accomplished while in this body, whether good or worthless. So that's the evaluation. This is gonna take place for all of us. Evaluate our performance in the plan of God during our time on earth. Every one of us has the same privilege, the same opportunity to execute the plan of God. So if we live our life in the cosmic system, ignoring the plan of God, well, then we're gonna lose out. But if we live our life in God's plan, then we have some rewards. So let me say it again. If you live your life in the cosmic system, it's worthless. It's evil. The Greek word phallos, evil. Any believer that lives in the cosmic system fails to fulfill the protocol plan of God. What's the cosmic system? It's not being filled with the Holy Spirit. It's letting your sin nature control you. It's abandoning the divine institutions, and it's abandoning the plan of God. But if you fulfill the protocol plan of God, which is stay filled with the Holy Spirit, grow in grace, replicate Christ, then that's called agathos, or good. And the believer would receive rewards beyond his resurrection body. The loser, the one that did not grow in grace, the one that did not follow God's plan, will lose the decorations, lose the rewards, but the mature believer, the winner's the one who fulfills the protocol plan of God, will receive them. So here's the issue for you to think about. The issue is that your life for all eternity is now in the making right now today as you listen to this show. Your day-to-day attitude towards Bible doctrine, your day-to-day attitude towards your priorities will determine completely what will happen to you at the judgment seat of Christ. It does take only one decision to get saved. Yes, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. But it takes many, many decisions to receive these decorations I'm talking about, these honors and rewards at the judgment seat of Christ. And that's why we have it. The purpose of the judgment seat of Christ is to evaluate each one of us during our time on earth between the time we got saved and the time we left. So the question is, what did you do? What did I do? with the tremendous invisible assets given to you and I by the grace of God. Because each one of us is going to stand before the judgment seat of Christ and we will stand there alone. Not with our children, not with our wives, our spouse, our mates, alone. And so we have to learn to live and live our own life We have to learn how to live alone and we have to learn how to die alone if that's necessary. So we can stand alone in the resurrection body before the Lord Jesus Christ and give an account of ourselves. Here's the bottom line. You and I, we are responsible for our own decisions. We are responsible. Volitional responsibility. And ignorance is no excuse before the judgment seat of Christ. That won't fly. Saying, well, I didn't know that You had equal privilege, you had equal opportunity to know it. So while this is going on in heaven, thank goodness we're not on the earth because tribulation is going on on earth. There's no prophecy left unfulfilled right now before the exit resurrection to take place. It could take place today. All prophecy has been fulfilled. The Bible talks quite a bit about it in Colossians 3, 4, in 1 Corinthians 1, 7, in 2 Thessalonians 2, 1, and Titus 2, 13. So this rapture or exit resurrection could take place at any time. But all the events that I'm talking about have to occur in proper sequence. and they must occur in the tribulation before the second advent can take place. So the rapture and the second advent are not the same thing. They're not coterminous. Neither one can occur at any time during the tribulation, so the rapture takes place before the tribulation. The second advent of Christ takes place at the end of tribulation. The tribulation begins when the church is removed from the earth, and the tribulation is divided into two parts, the tribulation and the great tribulation. And the main character in the tribulation is called the antichrist, you know, the 666 guy. The one who demands to be worshiped as God. You will not be here. You're not part of that. You're not gonna take the 666. You won't be here. The rapture takes place before the tribulation. And the tribulation will end after seven years. with a tremendous battle called the Battle of Armageddon. I have a book I can recommend for that. If you'd like to get that book, just write to me. We'll send it to you free of charge on the Battle of Armageddon. But it's not just a series of battles. or a campaign, but a worldwide war. It's a military campaign involving an invasion into unfriendly territory in order to locate the enemy forces and kill them and bring them under slavery. And this happens in the Middle East. It's a campaign composed of a series of battles in a specific geographical location, the Valley of Megiddo. And it's fought in a chronological succession or simultaneous location. And it's described in Zechariah 12, two through 11. It's the final battle, the final battle of the tribulation. Matthew 24, 21, for there will be a great tribulation such as not occurred since the beginning of the world until now. nor ever shall there be again and unless these days had been cut short no life would have been delivered but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short now in the old testament it's called daniel 70th week in daniel 9 20-27 that's where god told daniel that the jews would have 70 more weeks and each day of the week represented one year so there were 490 years left in their history And Daniel 9, 24 says it will be a time for making atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness and to anoint the most holy, which is the presentation of Jesus Christ as the God of Israel. That ended in the 69th week when they crucified him. And the 70th week is the seven-year period of the tribulation. The book of Revelation fills in the details of the tribulation that were not given to Daniel. But any attempt to correlate biblical passages with contemporary events always leads to confusion when the dispensation aspect of God's plan gets ignored. The tribulation cannot occur until the resurrection of the church occurs, as I told you. So our Lord Jesus Christ will come back He will defeat his enemies at the battle of Armageddon and establish his millennial kingdom where he will rule and reign for 1,000 years. Revelation 19, 11 through 21. And I saw heaven open, and behold, a white horse, and he that sat on it is called Faithful and True. And in righteousness he judges and wages war. And his eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many diadems. And he has a name written on him which no one knows except him. He's clothed with a robe dipped in blood. His name is called the Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven, clothed in fine white linen, were following him on white horses. Hello, that's us. And from his mouth comes a sharp sword, that with it he may strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. And he treads the winepresses of the fierce wrath of God the Almighty. And on his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly around heaven, Come, assemble for a great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on the earth, the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, small and great. And I saw the beast and the king of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Christ who sat on the horse against the army. And then the beast and the false prophet were defeated and seized. This is where they are put into the bottomless pit. He was seized and with him the false prophet who performed the signs in his presence which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast, 666. And they were thrown alive into the lake of fire and brimstone. And the rest were killed with a sword which came from the mouth of him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh. Now that's the Lord Jesus Christ at the Battle of Armageddon. So we've locked up the beast and the false prophet, and then we have to take Satan. Revelation 21 through 3, I saw an angel come down from heaven holding the key to the abyss. And a great chain in his hand, he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of O, who is the devil. Satan and bound him for a thousand years, threw him into the abyss and shut it up and sealed it over him so that he could not deceive the nations any longer until the thousand years were complete. And after these things, he must be released for a short time, Revelation 21 through three. Once he's released, there will be one more final battle. Revelation 27 through 10, when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison And he will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war. The number of them is like the sand of the seashore. And they came up on the bread, on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints. And the city and the devil who deceived them was then thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet were already there. And they will be tormented day and night forever. So when he gets out, All of these people who have not known satanic temptation that were born during this thousand year period, many of them will buy into this war and again turn on the Lord Jesus Christ, even though he sits on his throne. This is the power of the devil to convince people that he alone is God. He's a great liar. He's a great convincer. And this will happen. After this occurs, we have the great white throne of judgment. This is where the unbelievers are judged. You were judged at the judgment seat of Christ. The great white throne, I saw a great white throne, Revelation 20, 11 through 15, and him that sat on it from whose presence the earth and heavens fled away. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened, and then another book was opened, which is the book of life, and the dead were judged from the things which are written in the books according to their production. and the sea gave up the dead which were in it and death and hail gave up the dead that were in them and they were judged every one of them according to their deeds and then death and hades were thrown into the lake of fire this is the second death and anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire once that's over this planet is done i saw a new heaven revelation 21 1 a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth passed away And there's no longer any sea. And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne. Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men. Wow, I've given you a lot of information. Jesus Christ's final words, Revelation 22, 16 through 20. You can read it for yourself. Here it is, Revelation 22, 16 through 20. I don't have time to read it, but it says, I am coming quickly. Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. That's the third stage, and it's coming soon. I hope you listen. You may have a lot of questions. I gave you a lot of information. Don't hesitate to write if you need me to answer them. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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