John Rush teams up with Richard Battle to unpack the progressive takeover of our vocabulary—and why it matters more than ever. From weaponized words like “identify,” “cohort,” and “collective,” to the dangerous reframing of God-given rights and America’s founding values, John and Richard expose how the left is redefining reality. Why is “organizer” code for unaccountability? What happened to the rainbow as a symbol of God’s promise? And how is the term “democracy” being used to erode our republic?
Then, Sonny Joy Nelson joins to expose the consequences of this cultural corruption—from shoplifters celebrated as victims to Marxist policies parading as social justice. They dissect the weaponization of victimhood, the crumbling rule of law in places like California, and the threat of socialist ideologies taking root among younger generations.
Plus: John’s fiery takedown of Ireland’s proposed anti-Israel boycott—and why American companies should beware. From bread aisle absurdities in communist nations to the real reason why the free market must be defended, this episode packs truth into every minute.
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And we are back. Hour two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, welcome. How are you today?
SPEAKER 08 :
Good afternoon, John. Thanks for having us. We're doing fantastic. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Always a joy. All right. Something that all of us, I think, can use, and that is improving our vocabulary.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yes, and your breakpoint segment a few minutes ago had a couple of the things that we're going to discuss today. And the whole point of this is things that have been commonly accepted language and practice in the last several years have been turned and twisted to meet progressive needs. And so I think it's important for us to see them as well as understand that there's something bigger here than just the words.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, let's get into it. You've got some great examples. Let's roll through some of them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the first one's the word identify. Somebody says they identify. And, of course, back when we were kids, we had a different word for that, and it was pretend. We'd pretend when we played cowboys and Indians or cops and robbers or whatever it was, we pretended. And that's exactly what the identify movement is today.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, so where we used to say pretend or pretend versus reality, the new term today is identify.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, I identify as a scholar and a gentleman.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I wish I identified as somebody, or I'd like to identify as somebody with an IQ of about 150, Richard, but I'm afraid that's not happening.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and the second one is this word, and it really disturbs me because I think there's a portion of it that has condescension in it. Because I think it's an elitism type of word, and that is cohort. And we never heard that word until the last few years. And now instead of seeing a classroom or a group or a team, cohort is being used and abused and overused.
SPEAKER 16 :
And maybe I'm mistaken on this, Richard, but to your point, it didn't get used, I don't think, when we were kids. It hardly, if ever, got used. But even when I was younger, in other words, several decades ago, cohort just means that was somebody that was on your same team. In other words, they were familiar with you or they were there to back you up or something to that effect.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you had a broader education on that than I did on that word.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, and by the way, in the previous term, it was, you know, team, class, meeting group. So make sure that I'm clear on that. In today's world, where would somebody use that term cohort?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they use it for a classroom of kids. They'll call them a cohort now instead of a class. They'll use it on a committee. They'll call them a cohort. or a group, just any kind of a group at all, that word is almost exclusively used now instead of class, group, or team.
SPEAKER 16 :
Gotcha. Yeah, which when we were kids, you just called it what it was. It was a team, a class, a group, or whatever it was. Reimagine. Talk to us about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's one of the dangerous ones, I think, because every time I hear that, I guard my wallet and my freedom because people are saying, let's reimagine police work, for example. And every time they do that, they're throwing away something that might have worked for centuries to try something out that's an unproven theory that some academic may have come up with.
SPEAKER 16 :
And as you know, you know my feelings, and it doesn't mean that we don't ever try new things but if something that we know is tried and true and it works we might be able to refine that we might be able to to you know uh how should i say uh you know re um i don't want to say reimagine because that's not that's the that's the wrong word but you know we can sometimes you know for example in business we can redo a process we can make something better we can make something more efficient that doesn't mean we throw the whole process away though
SPEAKER 08 :
No, we test it, and we adapt and adjust and improve. But we have an idea of what we're doing. I've told you before of a political campaign where I debated a former mayor of Austin on TV, and I said that their plan to spend money, they had no plan. They just asked the taxpayers for money, and the former mayor's response was, quote-unquote, well, there's a certain charm about a vague plan. And too often we get politicians without experience, for example... who do not have the knowledge they need to make the changes or the experience. And so when we hear re-imagine, I want to know what do they want to do and is it proven and
SPEAKER 16 :
give me some evidence why we should do this and normally we don't hear that next one which we heard a lot during a campaign back in 2007 for the 2008 presidency of course or you know 2008 election i should say but that's organizer yes and we've been hearing it more and more and we talked about it a few weeks ago but to me it's an unaccountable
SPEAKER 08 :
participant in an activity, if you will, versus a leader who is accountable for something being accomplished. And we see this a lot at protests or even volunteer works. They'll come up and say, we're going to talk to Mary. She's an organizer. Well, what's that mean? She's working on it, but she may not have any accountability.
SPEAKER 16 :
In most cases, Richard, they have no accountability. In fact, in a lot of cases, they're purposely never seen. You don't even know who these people are. They're definitely not the face. They're not the leader of said event or said organization. They are doing everything, quote, unquote, behind the scenes and, to your point, in turn, have no accountability for that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's exactly correct, and it's very purposeful. And the higher up on the ladder someone is in that type of organization, the more they want to be unseen but yet pull the strings.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's exactly right. This is another one. Now, this is a word that when we were kids I don't think ever got used, collective.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, not at all, because our founders gave us individual liberty. And that's what's so great. We're an individual, and we want to be treated as individuals, whereas now, especially on the more progressive side, they want everybody to fit in little boxes and to treat all men the same, the women the same. different races the same. And so they want all of us to identify with a group based on those boxes that we check. And so to me, when we do that, we give up our individual liberty, and we should fight against that every chance we get.
SPEAKER 16 :
The collective, they'll say, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's exactly correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, yep. Collective or the group? The collective. All right, the next one, this one's a big one for me, because I think, you know, just share a little bit of, you know, my history, and of course, you know, I grew up in, you know, a Christian home and the church and all of that, but I think for me, you know, personally, Richard, the rainbow, and, you know, as I'm watching it storm outside, and there likely will be some rainbows even around this, you know, Denver metro area when this is all said and done. And I guess the way that I grew up and knowing what the meaning of a rainbow actually was and all the beautiful colors that are coming out of it, because there's not just, you know, four or five, there's a multitude, as we know, they continue to, you know, move from one color to another. And in turn, you're getting literally all of the quote unquote colors of the rainbow. And you and I both know, growing up, that was God's covenant, that He'll never destroy the earth by water and flood. Again, it doesn't mean there won't be some floods, but He'll never destroy the earth like He once did. That's completely been changed today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, absolutely, and again, I think that's purposeful and it's disrespectful. If someone went in and took something of the Muslim faith, for example, and twisted the meaning on it and tried to use it in some way that was against the Muslim religion, people would yell and scream about it. But in the Judeo-Christian faith, nobody is able to say anything, or they're told that they're haters.
SPEAKER 16 :
When we were kids even, and maybe you remember these, maybe not, Richard, but when we were kids, people would even take in the Christian community, there'd be little, you know, you'd take a little rainbow sticker, and it was, again, it was another sign of God's promise, and it definitely didn't mean at that time what it means today. Do you remember those stickers like I do?
SPEAKER 08 :
Vaguely, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. So again, those were, to your point, completely changed from one end of the spectrum to the other, literally.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And so the next, we get something that's very similar, and we're talking about rights. And our rights as enumerated in the Declaration of Independence as the founders did them, were God-given. And God-given rights are eternal and cannot be taken away by man. But what we see today are politicians, and it happens on both sides, some who want to talk about giving rights from politicians to people.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and really quick, an example of that for a lot of folks listening, they'll understand this. I know you will as well. I believe in the God-given rights, which, you know, we talk about those constantly during this particular segment with you, but I don't believe that mankind has a right to to health care. Now, you have a right to be healthy, and that is, by the way, your own right. And what you do with it, as I talked during health and wellness the last hour, Richard, is up to us, not someone else. But the reality is, no, you don't have a right to health care.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yes, and that's a man-made right. Correct. And a man-made right that's given can be taken away. And during the last administration, they gave people different rights, if you will, that are now being overturned in the current administration. So that works both ways. The only rights we can count on are the God-given eternal rights. Yep. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
SPEAKER 16 :
One other one that I think a lot of people get mixed up even sometimes on our side, Richard, is, well, I have the right to drive. I have the right to have a car and a license and so on. Well, you have a right to move about and a right to, quote, unquote, travel, because to me that's a God-given right, the ability to move from one place to another. But how it's done, Richard, yeah, no, there's no rights to that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, driving is a privilege, and that's the way it's been defined for eons.
SPEAKER 16 :
Democracy. This is a big one for me, as you know. Let's talk about it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's my pet peeve, because we're not a democracy, we're a republic, but yet all we hear from politicians and the media is the word democracy. And as we've quoted before, Aristotle said, golly, 2,500 years ago, republics decline into democracies, democracies degenerate into despotism. And when we give up our individual rights in a republic which protects minority rights... then we're subject to mob rule with no respect for the minority whatsoever, and that just leaves us one step away from despotism.
SPEAKER 16 :
I cannot tell you, Richard, over the past decade plus of being in this chair behind this microphone, how many different conservative interviews I've done. where somebody will use that word, and this is the one thing. I don't normally correct guests. I very seldom ever do that because it's a guest, and I try to be very respectful of those individuals. Don't always agree with them, and I'll make that known, and we'll have some debate back and forth. But the one thing that I will correct a guest on is when they use that term versus republic.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, absolutely. And we need to assert our individual rights. We need to correct people, our political folks, whoever uses that word, we need to correct them so that we can stem the tide of that progress.
SPEAKER 16 :
Transition. Talk about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we hear about people transitioning from boy to girl or girl to boy or whatever role they want to have. And again, they're taking self-definition versus whatever they were created as. And so I think that focus on self and being able to be whatever you want to be whenever you want to be it, that might sound good, but it's not reality.
SPEAKER 16 :
Truth is another one. In fact, I've done in the past, there's a series called The Truth Project. I've led that particular series in organizations before. By the way, if any of you out there listening have the ability to ever take that particular series of lessons, it's well worth it because it literally is talking about what you've got in our notes today, Richard.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, good, because truth is the next one, and again, that's self-defined versus objective truth. And for years, we lived in an objective truth, but all of a sudden, people wanted to come out and be able to define their own truth. And they'll say, my truth is, or what is your truth? Well, truth is truth. And no matter how many times I say the sun's going to rise in the west tomorrow, that's not truth.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. That's right. Exactly. Last one, neutralize and manage.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, this one has a little humor to it because when we hear the military talk and they say we neutralized Osama bin Laden, we've come to know that that meant they killed him. But when I was at Yellowstone National Park a few weeks ago, and the guide was talking about some of the animals and said that every once in a while, if they got out of control, they would have to, quote, unquote, manage them. And I said, well, what's manage mean? In effect, it meant they killed them. But I just think it's interesting that neutralize and manage are words to soften reality from what's really going on. And that, to me, is very disrespectful of the public.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's dumbing down the public, if you would. Am I right? Yes, absolutely. And that's part of the disrespect. There you go. RichardBattle.com is the website. What can folks find there, Richard?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we have all 12 books, including the latest, Americans Who Made America, 19th Century History. Growth Division and Reunification. They're all signed there. If you want to inscribe, copy, email me, richard at richardbattle.com. We're happy to do that. Everything is available at Amazon under Richard V. Battle, including Kindle and audio versions.
SPEAKER 16 :
As always, I appreciate it, Richard. Learn something every time you're with us, and I'm very thankful for that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Always my pleasure. God bless America.
SPEAKER 16 :
God bless you. Have a great night, Richard Battle. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al did a great interview here of late. Listen in. I'll be back right after that.
SPEAKER 07 :
TJ here with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial. How are you, Al? Oh, I'm doing great, TJ. How are you? I'm doing well. I was talking to my wife recently about IRAs, and it came to mind. I wanted to ask you, is that something you deal in? And if so, what's it all about?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I would say probably 80-90% of the people who come into my office and we sit down and have a conversation about their resources and so forth, I would say a very high percentage of them either have an IRA or they may be in the process of maybe moving their 401k to an IRA because they're severing their employment. So IRAs come up a lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
What kind of questions do you get around IRAs typically?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, sometimes people ask me when do I have to start taking money out of my IRA, which are the required minimum distributions. Sometimes they ask questions about how much they can put into their IRA, which this year is $7,000 unless they're over $50,000. then they can put in $8,000. I usually end up recommending a Roth IRA because if people are younger, then that can grow tax-free and ultimately pay tax-free income. And Roth IRAs, they don't have required minimum distribution, so you can take the money out of a Roth IRA on your schedule rather than the Treasury Department's schedule.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Al, where do people normally go wrong with their IRAs before getting your help?
SPEAKER 11 :
By not starting one. As soon as you have earned income, you can be working at Starbucks at a very young age. And if you want to, you can be putting money into an IRA.
SPEAKER 07 :
Don't do the shoulda, coulda, woulda. Al, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for coming in today. Go to klzradio.com slash advertisers to find Golden Eagle Financial.
SPEAKER 11 :
Very good. If you have a question about your IRA, give my office a call. 303-744-1128.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive.
SPEAKER 16 :
This is John Rush. And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay. Some things just never cease to amaze me, and I don't know why. I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this particular headline, although I am a little bit because I didn't realize that Ireland was so anti-Jew. But there is a proposed boycott – this is coming from Ireland – of Israel – Israeli, I should say – businesses that is creating a dangerous legal trap for American investors. It's an article in Fox News. Legal experts warn that companies to conduct compliance audits as IRS – or, sorry, Irish BDS law – conflicts with the US anti-boycott regulations. So Ireland has announced plans to pass a first-of-its-kind European law banning imports from Israeli businesses operating in Jerusalem and the West Bank. Like most boycotts, divestment, and sanctions efforts, the bill is unlikely to inflict measurable economic harm to Israel. However, it poses a very real and potentially devastating threat to American businesses and investors. Under US law, It is illegal for American companies to participate in or support foreign government-backed boycotts of Israel. The export administration regulations enforced by the Department of Commerce's Office of Anti-Boycott Compliance and Internal Revenue Code 999, administered by the IRS, prohibit exactly the kind of conduct Ireland's legislation seeks to compel. These statutes were enacted in response to the Arab League boycott and are grounded not only in economic self-interest but also in civil rights law. The boycotts of the Jewish state have always been about who Jews are, not what Israel does. More recent legislation like the 2016 Trade Facilitation and Trade Enforcement Act reaffirmed Americans' bipartisan commitment to combating BDS. So Ireland... Which, again, am I shocked? Kind of. I mean, you would think a country that literally was, in fact, correct me if I'm wrong, Charlie, but when I was a kid growing up all the way up to just probably a couple of decades ago, they had so much fighting going on between the Catholics and the Protestants there. There was always these bombings. And what was the organization that was always doing? Yeah, the IRA. The IRA was always doing some bombing here. There's been movies made about those things. I mean, you would think a country. that for so many years had so much conflict on its soil that it would understand why you don't do this. I guess they don't learn. So not that I or I'm not sure any of you have any plans to go to Ireland and visit, but I can tell you right now, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. In fact, I think it should be very well known in America that Ireland, you're a bunch of dopes. Don't go there. In fact, I would be one to say I'm not a huge boycott guy, as you guys all know. It's not something that I really ever initiate or talk about on air. I just feel like typically they don't have as much meat or they don't have as much teeth in them as what some folks would love them to have. In some cases, they might do a few things. You know, for example, when the NFL was doing some of its nonsense and a lot of people just stopped going, stopped watching and so on. Money talked. And yes, they did make some changes. But when it comes to Ireland, I'll just tell you straight up, I wouldn't go there. And I would encourage anybody else out there listening to not go there. What a bunch of knuckleheads. Now, I can't speak for everybody that lives there, because I'm sure there's a lot of great people in Ireland that would not agree with this, but I'm sorry. I would just tell you all, if that's something you thought of doing, I would not do it. Brad in Lakewood, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, from time to time I hear about this Project 2025, and you don't know what to think of it. Now, last summer, Trump said he hadn't read it, he didn't support it, but I watched a video, and I don't think it's real accurate because the guy kept calling Trump the orange man, but he was analyzing part of it, and it concerned the veterans. And it actually does say this in the Heritage Foundation that if you're in Category 7 or 8 of the VA, they want to throw you out of the VA. Now, if Trump seems to be on the side of the veterans, but why would he take these people that support Project 2025 and put them in his administration is what... video was saying, but half the stuff you read on the Internet, and anybody can make a video, you don't know what to believe or what not to believe. Correct. In the Heritage Foundation, it does say, if you type in Project 2025 Heritage Foundation, kick veterans out of the VA if they're Category 7 or 8, which concerns me because I'm Category 8, do you think they would actually go as far as to do that, or do you think that's Internet sensationalism?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I would have a hard time believing that they would actually do that. And I've read through some things of late when it talks to, you know, some of the things that Trump has been doing in regards to some of the policies and so on and how it really does coincide with Project 2025 and so on. By the way, Brad, I think that's a huge stretch forward. to have any kind of correlation. There are things that Trump was going to do regardless of what Project 2025 said. I think it's more coincidental than anything that some of the things that Project 2025 said versus what Trump has actually done now. when it comes to some of the people that he has put into positions, some of those people having some input into Project 2025, which I've said this before, even back when Project 2025 was a big deal and the left was talking about how you shouldn't vote for Trump because Project 2025 will be enacted and this, that, and the other. I even went through some of the things back then, Brad, when it came to Project 2025. And I said right then that there are things in here that I agree with fully. And there are some things in here that I Don't agree with Foley, and I would venture to guess that Trump looks at it exactly the same way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and then he mentioned the name Russ Vought was in favor of that, but I can't pronounce his name.
SPEAKER 16 :
Vought, something like that, I would guess.
SPEAKER 09 :
But we've got to let Russ speak for himself, because just some guy on the Internet says Russ said this, that doesn't mean he really said it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER 09 :
So you need to let... But I was in Heritage Foundation for a couple years, and I didn't think there was conservatives I liked, so I went ahead and quit. But the bottom line is it probably never would happen, but why would they even write it to begin with?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, over the years, and everybody knows this because over the past decade plus, I have interviewed many a person that have been affiliated with the Heritage Foundation. Once again, Brad, I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say that every single thing that they do is bad. But are there things that the Heritage Foundation believes in and would do that I wouldn't? Absolutely, and I think that's true, by the way, Brad, with a lot of the different folk that I would have on. In fact, I would say that there's a lot of folks that I interview on a pretty routine basis where I may very well agree with that particular thing being said by that particular interviewer, the interviewee, I should say, at that particular time, but do I believe in lock, stock, and barrel every single thing that they would say across the board? Of course not.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the problem is if you remain a member, you have some influence. If you just go ahead and quit... They're going to say, well, why should I listen to you? You quit.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I see yesterday that the Senate finally confirmed their first judge, but why did it take six months to confirm one judge? I believe there were 43 openings when we first took the Senate in January. But why would it—is Thune more the problem or is it Charles Grassley? And a lot of people seem to think Thune is deliberately slow-walking these appointments because he wants to hurt Trump.
SPEAKER 16 :
And I think I would have a hard time believing that as well. I think given that it's the first six months since things have been rolling along, a lot of things that Trump's even want to introduce, keep in mind they've been working on not only the big, beautiful bill, but there's other things that have been. run through as well, Brad. So I think when you take a lot of things and combine it and realizing that there's also a lot of other confirmations that have to happen with the cabinet and so on, reality is there's a lot on their plate. And I think probably the way they look at it, I would as well if I was in their position. This is the low-hanging fruit we get done after we get the high stuff done.
SPEAKER 09 :
And there were some bad things in that big and beautiful bill.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. And again, that's another one of those where it's like, you know, do you get everything you want? No. So you've got to take the good with the bad.
SPEAKER 09 :
And the important thing was the extent of the Trump tax cuts. And even though it doesn't affect me directly. I like the fact that they raised the exemption on the debt tax to $15 million. Right. Personally, I think it should be eliminated.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think it should be zero. Yeah, thank you. I don't think there should be any limit on it whatsoever. I'm with you on that one, Brad. You're basically double-taxing people when it's all said and done, which I don't care for. I don't care what level of income you're at or where you are on that spectrum. I think death tax is completely nonsense. It shouldn't exist.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I agree, and... I was listening to a talk show host a while back, it was a Sunday night, and he was talking about Social Security, and he seems to think the answer is to raise the age And if you're rich, you shouldn't get Social Security to begin with. And I disagree with that 100 percent. Yeah, because you've paid in.
SPEAKER 16 :
I disagree with him on that as well. If you've paid in, I think you have every right to have what you paid in coming back, no matter what level of income you're at. Now, I will agree with him on I do think we're at a point in time where Americans are healthier than they used to be. They're living longer than they used to be. So I think two things need to happen on Social Security to help fix it. One, I think the age needs to be not for those that are currently in it. So if you're already in it, you're in it. It's done. It's handled. your grandfather did no matter what changes are made. But I do think that the age that you start taking it, which right now is 62, I think we need to bump that up to 63, maybe even 64 on the initial round, Brad. And then on top of that, I think the max, you know, right now it's like 133,000, and once you make above that, there's no longer any Social Security done by you or the employer. I think that probably needs raised to 150.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was listening to Dr. Shiva say, And he says life expectancy has actually gone down, and I did Google that. My philosophy is just because you're living longer doesn't mean you want to work longer. I think there's better ways to fix the problem than raising the age or raising the tax.
SPEAKER 16 :
I know the problem, and I'm not going to disagree with you, and I'm at that age where I'm not that far away from some of this, Brad, so I'm even speaking to myself when it comes to some of these things, although I will tell you that if we don't do something to fix it, It won't be there for anyone, and we're going to be in really bad shape. So the reality is I get what you're saying, and I guess maybe even what Shiva is saying, but I'd like to know what are the ways are there to fix it? I mean, you could raise the percentage that we're all paying in, and maybe, by the way, I'm not so sure, Brad, that you don't have to do all three to really get things fixed. Maybe raise it by a year, raise things by a half a point on what we're actually paying in, and on top of that, raise the limit from $130 to $150.
SPEAKER 09 :
Personally, I don't think the program should be there to begin with. And if it was up to me and I could wave the magic wand, I would just... Well, yeah, now you're well.
SPEAKER 16 :
Don't get me started on that one, because absolutely, if you could make everybody go out and do their own private thing and do away with it altogether, I'm all for it. But unfortunately, Brad, this is one of those, like, church committees that once it gets started, you're never going to get rid of it. So we're stuck with it. It's not going anywhere.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, they could just say, after such and such a date, you will no longer pay into the system after such and such a date. you'll no longer collect benefits, and they can pay off the people that are in it. But what's really infuriating is they make you... I still had to join Medicare at 65 and pay a penalty. Now, if I can't collect my Social Security until 66, they need to raise that. You don't need to collect Medicare until you're... You don't have to sign up for Medicare until you're 66 because... I had the VA. There was no need for me to be in Medicare at 65. I agree, and I agree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's another one where we're spending far too much money as a country when we shouldn't have to. People that are, again, you get to be 65 and you're nice and healthy and you want to stay on a plan or you've got your own plan, you're an employer, whatever the case may be, let them. There should not be any mandate you have to go on Medicare, period.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, if I were to stay at work until I was 70, then I went ahead of joining Medicare because that's what's known as credible insurance. But the VA is not credible insurance, so if you tell them, I got the VA, I don't want to join Medicare, and then the VA decides they don't want to cover you in, say, four or five years, then you've got to pay the penalty. But if you keep working in your private job and have insurance in your private job, then you don't have to join the penalty.
SPEAKER 16 :
All of that's wrong, Brad, across the board, as you know. All of it's wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's what they were telling me.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, what I mean is it's correct, but it's wrong in the fact that that's the way it is. It shouldn't be that way. That's my point.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and one of the advantages I have in... being a Humana Advantage plan is I don't have to join Part D because Humana and the VA have a deal worked out where I don't get my drugs from Humana, but I get them from the VA, so I'm paying $110 instead of $185. Gotcha. And that's Part D, I think, is a bigger ripoff than Medicare itself because it costs more to buy by the prescription than it does to pay for the pills.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, yeah. Many, many things need changed on that, by the way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Do you think the government penalizes us for turning 65?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
I thought the same thing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I think so, Brad. Yes, I would agree with that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you know how you can solve this problem overnight is Make all members of Congress join Social Security.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. Join Medicare, and the problem will be solved overnight.
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I'll leave it at that. Brad, that's a great conversation. Thank you always. I appreciate your call. Sonny, hang tight. We'll come right back to you and end this hour with Sonny Kutcher, Young Americans Against Socialism. Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning is next. Problems with your A.C. Give them a call today. Even if you've had somebody look at it already, they'll give you a second opinion. Find them at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sonny, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Doing great. How are you?
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm doing great. A lot of stuff always going on, but hey, it is what it is, but doing great. If we think about all of the bad things going on, we'd never get out of bed, Sonny.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that's the truth, and I was talking to my dad earlier, and he's like, you know, Sonny, when I was your age, I was just living my life. The world was not like this, or you wake up every day and some crazy situation has happened.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, and again, it is what it is. Okay, I think we'll start in reverse, because you sent me something just a moment ago, which I had not seen yet, and that was a... A worker in – I guess a manager, store manager in San Francisco, Walgreens store manager that has been convicted for fighting a shoplifter. Again, Sonny, what in the world is wrong? I mean, basically the person leaves with who knows what. I don't have that in front of me. I can't watch the video. I can only see the – i can only see it i can't hear what's going on i don't know exactly what was stolen but that is the problem and i talked to a lot of folk that work inside of stores i was in home depot not long ago and i was talking to a couple of people that were working in there about this very you know issue to whereby if somebody leaves with something they just they can almost wave and wish them wish them i mean sunny they can almost help them load in the car because they're not allowed to do anything which is a bunch of nonsense absolutely and uh
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especially in California, you know, Gavin Newsom going around, you know, talking about, oh, all the accomplishments that he's touting. But here we are. And of course, this will never get any coverage because that's this is exactly this is the direction that they want our country to go in, where the criminals and criminality is emboldened and encouraged and and just essentially ignored. where the law-abiding citizen, the business owner who is providing value to his community, is being convicted for, I mean, I'm not exactly sure what these charges are, obviously.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and as I'm watching the video, and again, I can't hear it, and maybe I couldn't hear anything anyways because it's a street cam, but from what I can see, there's the store manager and either an officer of the law or a security officer, I can't tell which, that's walking out with this particular store manager, and I'm just being, I'm looking, I mean... It's very apparent the police officer or security, the law, whatever you want to call it, Sonny, is basically doing nothing to try to get this these items back that this guy basically has walked out with. And the store manager starts to engage with the said individual to the point where he's not going to take no for an answer. He's getting his stuff back no matter what. And all the while, the security guard is really just kind of sitting there. I'm sorry to say twiddling his thumbs.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And probably because he, in his own mind, he's like, well, shoot, I could get in trouble for, you know, intervening here. And that's essentially exactly what happened. I think it's a security guard. And I guess they followed the shoplifter out into the street. And then the store manager began to, you know, kind of go after the guy.
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They want to get his stuff back, basically. An altercation, a physical altercation.
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Right. It's one thing for fighting the shoplifter, but then it's like, okay, well, he did steal something from the store, so what about that? Of course, like I said, we don't have all the information, but it's just a signal as to how degraded our society has become. store managers and businesses are being penalized for trying to protect their property.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And again, I guess some would probably look at it and say, why does it matter? It's Walgreens. It's not his. It's, you know, he's just the manager. You know, I think for a lot of us, myself included, because I probably shouldn't say this publicly, but I have been known on more than one occasion that to follow somebody walking out of a store, Home Depot in this particular case, where I know somebody is stealing something, walking out the door. And yes, I am one of those customers where I will follow that person out. I will go after that person. I have. I actually chased a guy down in the street and didn't recover the things. He was faster than I was getting in the car, and I actually chased him in the car, tried to get his license number and all that. Not that it matters, but to me, this is my take on it as a consumer. Every time something leaves that store without being paid for, my price of the next item goes up because Home Depot is not going to lose money. They're going to raise prices on me, the good consumer that's paying for those things. So for me, I take it personal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, and it's just a complete upside down of how our society is supposed to function. And what you said is a really important fact, which is about – uh the free market and what happens when you know what happens with transactions between producers and consumers which is that when you buy something or you don't buy something or something is stolen or you know or they run out of the item things like that those are all uh you know points of data information that has been processed to the store where they say okay well this is how we need to adjust our prices or how we need to adjust what we're selling or maybe we need to drop a product or we need to add a product And when you allow things like this to persist and you let this imbalance that's happening where people feel that they are entitled to go into a store and just steal things. Because they're, you know, they may be poor, they may be down and out. And that's a whole another issue in and of itself. But when you allow that to happen, it completely throws things out of balance. Like you said, and now they're going to start raising the prices. They're going to start locking up their goods, which is what we deal with in California. I'm surprised this person was even able to steal something because everything's locked up usually when you go into a Walgreens or CVS.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. No. And then again, once again, we as consumers end up paying the price for those things. I guess that's for me where I take it so personal because, A, I've been a business owner most of my adult life. I've ran retail stores. I know what it's like to have things leave without being paid for. And I guess that side of me, Sonny, still takes this stuff personal. And I guess I was taught also, if it doesn't belong to you locked up or not, it could be sitting on the side. It could be sitting on the curb. It doesn't make any difference. If it doesn't belong to you, don't take it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And I think, uh, You know, young people kind of segue into the other topic of Mamdani and just, you know, the things that he is, you know, that he's proposing. And, you know, what the leftist agenda really is all about, which is essentially socialism, socialist style policies. They'll never say that it's socialism. You know, they'll never he will never say that. Oh, yeah, I would love to do socialism. So that way we can become a communist society. or a communist city or whatnot. But that's essentially what's happening because people do, they have this moral entitlement and arrogance, these young people who believe that the government should give people rights. what they need to survive and to give them goods. And then the fact that it's not happening is what has allowed people to feel so emboldened to go into stores and steal things brazenly because they've emboldened the underclass of the underbelly of society, which is called It's a term, there's a term for it that Marx used to talk about, which is called the lumpenproletariat, which is basically under the working class. And what they do, this type of rhetoric and these policies, this propaganda is meant to whip up those people so that they feel emboldened to go out and commit crimes and steal and do all these things, which essentially... puts the working class and everybody else into a position where they actually want the government to come in and intervene because they have zero control of what's happening.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're right, Sunny. This is kind of dovetailing into what we were going to talk about initially, which is this whole idea that we're going to soften things up. We've got somebody running in New York City that is a true, well, He's a Marxist communist, but he's running on a quote unquote socialist platform because that's easier. That's a little more palatable to the average American to talk about socialism versus communism. They are one in the same. It's just the beginning phase of total communism when it's all said and done. But it softens the blow, Sonny. My point is all of this, you know, nonsense of socialism. of us not going after people that are stealing and theft and looting and all these different things, that is by design inside of Marxism itself, and it's a part of the major plan to take over the country, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely, and that is the cultural aspect, and then you have the political, economic aspects of it that is really pulling in these young people. It's all over TikTok. People are just... I actually posted a video a couple of days ago of a mom who in the caption was saying it was obviously her daughter that had been taking the video. And it's like a whole page about it. And she basically was like my, my former Republican mom who is now basically a communist. And she's like going into this whole thing about why communism is so amazing and all this stuff. And I'm like, These people, I mean, they're seriously delusional. Because if you think about it, in the video I posted today that I sent you, she talked about how socialism, which I always say is the economic backbone to communism, because you have to take control of the resources. And it's really interesting to me because, you know, talk to any conservative today, and they're not too happy with the government, right? And so I find this really interesting thing. juxtaposition where you have conservatives and leftists that are not happy with the government. But conservatives are saying, you know, we're on the side of the free market capitalism, if you want to call it that, which, you know, that's like a whole nother question, whether it's really capitalism and all of those things. But the free market, really, when you boil it down and that's what creates these natural supply and demand, the information which controls the pricing. When you take that away, when you take the invisible hand of the free market away and you have someone like Mom Donnie, for example, you know, who would come in and say, we're going to freeze rent and we're going to put. government owned grocery stores and bus fares are one dollar for everybody. And, you know, these these these caps on things like that, you basically take away that process of information going into the market, which just it just basically eliminates The natural flow and the supply and demand. That's right. Well, there's no incentive.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, what you're saying is you're eliminating the incentive to do more, be better, put a better product out and so on. The reality is when you eliminate that, you end up with, this is the way it works, Sonny, as you know, go to any communist run country and, you know, we have, you know, we go to the bread aisle here in America. And again, I know it depends upon what store you go to, but typically, Sonny, you'll go in there and be able to pick. Oh, I don't know. I don't shop for bread a lot. So this is probably not a great example. But, you know, there'll be probably one of at least 30 choices. I don't think I'm exaggerating, Sonny, depending upon what type of bread you're trying to buy. Go to any communist country. And in some cases, I'm guessing you'll be lucky to get one, maybe two or three choices when it's all said and done. You're not going to get 30 choices.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And that leads to my next point, which is what happens when the government decides, well, actually, instead of the bus fare being $1, we actually want it to be $20 because we, you know, actually we need more revenue, you know, and oh, actually, you know, we only want to do electrics. Like they were trying to do in California, or like you said, we only want one, you know, two choices of bread and not 30, because that's actually too expensive. So sorry. And if you have this weird juxtaposition of the leftist thing, well, we want it to be, you know, free and fair for everybody. And they're mad at the government. Right. And it's like, OK, but what happens when now you're actually giving. all of the mean the production to the government you think they're gonna do a great job with it and then for more when you go from socialism to communism they all know what so communism is actually when you know when it's a communal thing and the workers are you know the way everybody the same and actually You know, the workers are controlling. It's illogical. It makes no sense. It's not reality. It doesn't happen because when you actually give the government the control, you no longer have control. You can't tell them, well, actually, we don't like that. You know, you lose control.
SPEAKER 16 :
You lose all of that representation of being able to make changes, have choices, give incentive for that particular, not only the merchant, but the worker or the person that's inventing and so on. I've said it many, many times in this particular program. The amount of things that we have as a country that have benefited the entire world is because of the very things that we're talking about. All right. I'm getting close on time here. Sonny, how do folks find you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yas.org, Y-A-A-S.org. You can learn more about socialism and communism. Please, please talk to your children about this. There has never been a more important time than now. You know, people like Mamdani, Omar Fateh, these Somali people, you know, that want to come in and change the fabric of our nation. We cannot allow this to happen. And the only way... to, to, to, to do that is to educate our children, our friends and our family. So go to our website, you know, check out our Instagram, our TikTok, post videos all the time that you can share with your friends and family, because like I said, never been a more important time and we must save our country. So thank you so much and happy to be here.
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And we are ready. Health and Wellness Wednesday, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. For those of you up in Wyoming, I got a message from one of you listeners, one of the texters. Appreciate this, by the way. For those of you that are up there that may not know this, there is a statewide weather radar disruption, and it's bad weather up there as we speak. So those of you that are in that area, just be careful, be looking out, do whatever else you need to do to check the weather and make sure that you're safe. weather stormy here in the Denver metro area as well northwest side of town there's an alert out right now as we speak as well so yeah for those of you uh don't let the weather um you know get you I guess is what I should say be very careful be alert vigilant all those different things and thank you by the way for the update on that I appreciate that greatly we have a lot of great listeners up and down our listening audience so thank you very much for that I do appreciate that I know our listeners do as well Yesterday's impossible question of the day. Researchers have found that some songs are safer to drive to than others. Can you name the safest song to play while driving? It is Billie Eilish, Bad Guy, which I probably would know that song if I heard it, but I don't know the name, so my bad. Again, as I said yesterday, I don't listen to a lot of music anymore. Most of the music that I listen to is older music. I don't listen to much new music anymore. And I listen to a lot of audio books. That's more of what I do of late versus actual music. So today's impossible question, though, as we get into this Health and Wellness Wednesday. In Super Bowl 50. Von Miller took home MVP honors while forcing two fumbles of Cam Newton in the Broncos' 23-10 victory. Miller also led his team in sacks. How many did he collect? So, again, Super Bowl 50. which we did really well in, by the way. How many sacks did Von Miller have in that particular game? That is the question of the day. All right, we're going to get going here in a moment. We'll take a break here momentarily, come back to a long segment as well. But before we do that, a couple of things. And I didn't realize today was National Hot Dog Day. But today is National Hot Dog Day. Now, some of you probably stay away from hot dogs. Others love hot dogs. I love hot dogs. I don't know why. I just do. I love the taste of them. I love, I think, maybe the ease of eating them and so on. And I love hot dogs, even though they're not always the best for you. And there are some better hot dogs than others, of course. Now, I learned... where the hot dog, the name hot dog, actually came from. Again, you guys heard me yesterday talking about, or maybe Monday, I was talking about Paul Harvey, and I now follow some of his old radio, you know, rest of the stories and so on, and I always enjoy those. Even when I was a kid, I enjoyed Paul Harvey. I still enjoy him today. Some, I don't know, 40-some years later, I still listen to them. And the origination of the name hot dog Now, hot dogs and frankfurters and things like that, they date back all the way to like the 1700s, I want to say, Charlie. I think that's when even frankfurters and things like that actually sort of came on the scene as a food. But the actual hot dog came about from a particular vendor, you know, the guy that would go around the ball games with the – in that day, it was a wooden crate that had all of the food in it, and they would carry that around and serve their different people that wanted one. they had the hot dogs themselves, so the meat portion of that, they had come up with ways to serve that, and for the longest time, they would actually give gloves while serving that particular food because it was hot, super hot, hotter than what people were used to eating at the time, I believe, is what Paul Harvey had said. And so they would give out gloves along with the hot dog, with the meat portion. Then somebody came up with an idea. This particular vendor had, I think, a brother that decided, let's bake a bread and put the hot dog, put the meat inside of the bread. Then we don't have to give out gloves, and they can consume all of it. That way we're not having to deal with gloves and throwing those away and all of that rigmarole. Let's just put that wiener, quote-unquote, inside of the bread. And at the time... you know, wienerschnitzels, if you would, you know, the dachshund, the dog, was what they were calling these. They were calling them hot dachshunds. Well, there was a sports writer that happened to be at a game on a particular day in the early 1900s where he was watching these things get served, and he thought, man, what a great concept, what a great idea. These things are fabulous. And because... this sports writer couldn't spell Dachshund. No surprise, Charlie, because it's a very hard word to spell. And he had a deadline to meet in the article that he was actually writing, but he wanted to include that part of what he saw in the article about this football game, by the way. It wasn't even a baseball game. It was a football game. He wanted to include what he saw being served at this particular game. And since he couldn't spell Dachshund, He knew Dachshund was a dog, therefore the name hot dog was born. And it has stuck ever since. So originally it was the hot Dachshund. And then it got turned into hot dog by a sports writer. And as Paul Harvey would say, that's the rest of the story. So that's where the name hot dog actually came from. Today is National Hot Dog Day. There's probably free and bargain hot dogs all around town if that's something you're inclined to go find. Yes, I know it's Health and Wellness Wednesday and Thursday. A hot dog probably isn't the most healthy of things to eat, although we talk about all the time how you need to have balance, and it's okay occasionally to even eat something that you may not normally eat on a daily basis. And it's National Hot Dog Day. I will tell you right now, if you want to go out and enjoy a hot dog this evening or this afternoon, then you know what? Be my guest and enjoy your hot dog. All right, we'll be back in a moment. 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All right, back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And here's something that this is health and wellness related. President Trump. Actually, this came out just a few minutes before coming on air. Charlie might enjoy this. Trump is talking to Coca-Cola. And they have agreed, Coca-Cola has agreed, to start using real cane sugar in their Coke products like they do in other countries here in the U.S., which I will tell you right off the bat, I'm not a huge soft drink drinker. Anybody in my family, Charlie, knows that, my wife included, with one exception. When I go to Mexico, and you can buy it here as well, but you've got to search around for it. But when I go to Mexico, I will occasionally have a Coke there because their Coke is made from cane sugar, and the taste is way different than it is here. I'll just tell you straight up. So those of you that have never had cane sugar Coke, not recommending you drink a lot of it because it's not the most healthy with the dyes and so on that are in it. But if you want to treat on an occasion – and you want something that tastes different than you probably have had in the past, yes, try a real cane sugar Coke. Now, here's another tip. Learn this from watching different videos and so on, like I did with the Paul Harvey video I was mentioning. There are certain times of the year where certain things come up in the Jewish calendar whereby they have to have kosher Coke, let's say. And the Coke bottles will have a green cap. Those are made from cane sugar because they're kosher when they're made that way. Some of you may or may not know that. Some of you that are in that would know that better than I. But there's different times of the year where you can actually buy, just on the shelf in a lot of places, kosher Coke, I guess you could say. And it has cane sugar in it as well. And I believe it's a green cap. If some of you out there listening want to tell me for sure, you can text me and tell me. But I'm pretty sure it's a green cap. Now, you can also buy... And these are in different places. Sometimes they're even, believe it or not, at Home Depot. You can buy cane sugar Coke in a bottle, and I'll tell you straight up, I don't think Coke tastes the same coming out of a plastic bottle as it does a glass bottle. That's me, and I know everybody's different. But anyways, I'm not advocating you drink a lot of Coke anyways because it's not best for for your health and wellness. But like I said with the hot dog, is it okay, like today, to have a cane sugar Coke and a hot dog on a day where it's National Hot Dog Day? Absolutely. Knock your socks off. Enjoy. I just wouldn't do that on, of course, a daily basis. So here's an article that actually Jersey Joe sent me. And as I was reading through this, I thought, hmm, this is a very interesting article. And it's high IQ people... are strikingly better at forecasting the future. Now, what does this have to do with health and wellness? Well, for those of you, and I have a lot of you as listeners, by the way, that I believe have very high IQs. I can tell by a lot of the things that you will send me and some of the conversations we have back and forth, whether it's on air, whether we're talking via the text line or whatever. We have a lot of listeners that I believe have high IQ. Charlie, my producer, engineer, being one of those with a high IQ. I'm on the other end of this spectrum, so forecasting the future in my world probably doesn't work out so well, but high IQ people are strikingly better at forecasting the future. They did a study over in England. This was done several years ago, but they basically did a study whereby they asked 3,900 older adults in England... that had higher IQs, and they put them through a series of tests and predicting certain things, in some cases forecasting their own lives, how long will they live, for example. And strikingly, the folks with higher IQs were much better percentile-wise at predicting even their own life expectancy than those that had lower IQ. And this article goes into talking about how Typically speaking, not always, but typically speaking, higher IQ people make better life choices. They'll make better financial decisions. They won't do some of the things that folks that maybe that have a lesser IQ will actually make. And I found it very interesting. to the point that should these studies and this is the this is the probably the criticism of these studies and or the risk of these studies is do you start separating things out even when it comes to things like car insurance and life insurance and things along those lines based upon somebody's intellect And I know this gets into some really wild stuff, but I'm going to tell you, folks, this is a predictor I have. With AI coming along and getting stronger and stronger, will you start to see it as people interact with it more? Will you actually start to see some things built, insurance for example, around some of what I'm talking about? And I'll be honest, I wouldn't be shocked to see that. In fact, my prediction is you will see that. As people start interacting more and more with AI, and some use it more than others, I honestly, I know this is health and wellness for a Wednesday, but I encourage a lot of the folks that I consult with, business-wise, as a business consultant, I actually encourage my clients to use it. Some of you are thinking, geez, John, why would you do that? Because it makes them better. Not because it makes them worse, but because it makes them better. And what I mean by that is somebody that's even writing an invoice, for example. And normally in, for example, the auto world that I came out of, when you're writing a repair order for somebody, back in the day, we hand wrote a lot of things. The handwritten things went into printed things that we could then do out of programs. And some of the programs then started to become a little more sophisticated where certain things were already pre-populated for you. But none of them are super accurate and perfect for that particular job that you're presenting to the client until now. AI has the ability to literally that invoice, that repair order, that estimate that you're giving to the client, you can now get so dialed in through AI and you're doing very little keystrokes in the process. Yeah, and Charlie says, and the customer needs to understand it, which AI is doing. Yeah, well, the business owner needs to understand all this as well. Yes, and this is where I'm trying to help the business owners understand the help that can be here, because at the end of the day, what you're presenting to your client And the ability for AI to put the things that you would normally be doing on a vehicle that for a lot of people they would look at as gobbledygook. I'm being serious. Most people that aren't car people, they would read an invoice and look at it and have no clue what that technician or what that shop just did. And as a coach, I try to get my clients to not be that way. I always wanted my repair shops for every single client to know exactly what they're buying and the value of. And you do that with words because they don't understand what the technician's doing. But they understand words on paper. People can read, so they can read what's on the paper. So even in my shops, when we had to hand do a lot of things through typing, I wanted a book written literally on what we just did to the vehicle so the customer can look at it and understand, wow, you guys did a lot. Because there's a lot that goes on. People don't give the trades near enough credit for what they actually have to do to get something fixed. Because in most cases, and I'm sorry to say, but in most cases, a lot of the trades will put in three or four words as to what they did. You know, for example, R&R brake pads. That means remove and replace, but a lot of people use the short form, and they'll do R slash R brake pads. Well, the customer doesn't have any idea what that means. So AI is helping with that and creating more tools. words more explanation i guess i should say as to what's happening with those jobs anyways to get back to this whole the higher iq making better decisions i i am one that believes and this does have to do with health and wellness because trust me as we get further down the road And I've got an article that I'll talk about maybe towards the end in regards to Alzheimer's and dementia, which they're now starting to be able to figure out folks that are even in their 20s as to whether or not there's a chance for them having Alzheimer's and dementia when they're at that young age. I believe that as we start to interact more and more with things like AI, it may very well start picking up on some of those things and giving you a clue as to, hey, you know what? Hey, John. Hey, Charlie. Be watching for X, Y, Z because I, as a computer, can see some patterns here. So going back to the article Joe sent me in regards to IQ level and the intellect and being able to predict things, basically this entire article is all about the fact, the fact, the study, Proved that folks with a higher IQ make better decisions, therefore can predict more of what may happen down the road, not only in their life, but what might happen financially and so on. Now, can anybody predict the future? No. Nobody's got a crystal ball. Nobody can predict the future. Nobody knows what tomorrow holds. But... the more data and the more things that you receive that now you have the ability to look at and base better decisions on, whether that be something you're thinking about as a household, whether you're thinking about it in your business, whether we're doing something here even on air. I do believe that the better information we've got coming in, the better some of those decisions can be made. And a lot of what I talk about, even in regards to you folk, in regards to politics and so on, I do think that the better we do at some of those things, the better there will be predictors along those lines. For example, during COVID, we had some really smart people that joined me on a weekly basis on Thursdays. That was Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House talking about a lot of the things that you should do or not do. back to the whole health and wellness thing, what you should do, shouldn't do in regards to COVID to keep yourself healthy. And I had some great help, and I learned a lot from those individuals on Thursdays as to what to do, what not to do. And by the way, a lot of you as listeners that have been with us the past five, six years, you learned as well. We all learned together, and in a lot of cases, you kept your families safer Through those high intellect individuals, Dr. Kelly and Steve House, who, by the way, are both very high IQ individuals. You were able to do some things in the future based upon the things they told you. Again, going back to this article and proving that high intellect people do have the ability to look at things differently than others. And if you follow some of that, and I'm not saying they're always right, you know, high intellect people, Dr. Kelly and Steve, by the way, have been pretty right all the way through. We talk about that on a weekly basis. Bob Duco and I actually were talking about that. You'll hear that tonight in the podcast. Bob Duco and I were talking about that this morning about all of COVID and the fact that there were folks like Bob and I. and even Neil, talking about what was going on during COVID and what you should or shouldn't be doing during COVID and some of the nonsensical things that government was telling us to do, which frankly made no sense. There were radio shows like ours talking about utter nonsense that was happening at the time to the point where Bob, I, and others had death threats against us because we were going so against the grain of what was happening during that time, nobody wanted to listen to us. I'm still waiting for my apologies, by the way. I'm still waiting for apologies from those people that literally said I should die, Bob should die, others along those lines should die, because we had no idea what we were talking about. We were all correct, by the way. I'm not saying that I have a high IQ and that I knew things during COVID because of that. I knew things through COVID because I was surrounding myself with very smart people like Dr. Kelly and Steve House that were able to decipher a lot of the things that were happening that, frankly, just were not backed up by science. They were all made-up things that were being pushed by government, the Fauci types, if you would. And we knew right off the bat none of those things were true. But going back to the article that Joe sent— Interesting article. I'll have it in my notes. You'll be able to look at that in our show notes a little later. It honestly is a good read because it talks about how basically high IQ people in their genes, in their judgment, the ability for them to even decipher the noise, quote unquote, that might be around them and what they need to be doing in regards to to decision making and so on. Very, very interesting. Now, I will also tell you that we're going to have an interview in a moment with Troy Duell. He joins us on a routine basis. He is the head of president of Centurion Labs, and it's a supplement company. And I will tell you that his supplements are second to none and I believe are very instrumental in helping with some of the things that we're talking about along those lines when it comes to a You know, keeping your brain sharp, keeping that quote-unquote noise down, whether it be just in health or other areas of your life. There are aids today. We can supplement because of the way of our food sources right now. We can supplement through actual, you know, the taking of. And we can actually supplement our own lives and help in some of those areas and keep us sharper than what we normally would be. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. And I'll tell you right now, when it comes to vehicles, they're the place to call. They'll look at buying your current vehicle if you're looking to sell. They'll help you take that vehicle on trade on something they've got for sale. They'll help you with the financing end of things. They give a warranty on the vehicles that they sell. 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All right, and we will get Troy Dual lined up here in just one moment. And again, I appreciate all of you listening. And thank you also. I meant to say this as I was coming into the program today. Several of you today sent me several different articles, videos, things that I can go look at, which I normally do. It might take me a little bit of time to actually do so, but I appreciate that as well. So thank you. Keep sending me those, I guess is what I should be saying. I appreciate that very much. Andy also asking me, what are my thoughts on Bratwurst? One of my weaknesses. I'll be straight up honest. I love Bratwurst. It is one of those things that... If I have a choice between a hot dog or a bratwurst, of course, I'm typically going to take the bratwurst. I love them, and that is one of my weaknesses. And no, not always the healthiest thing that you could eat either, but I do enjoy one on occasion. Troy Duhl joining us now. Troy, welcome. How are you? Good, John. How are you, man? I'm great. Always a joy having you. I was telling folks a moment ago, Centurion Labs, the high-quality supplements that you guys make, which, by the way, I appreciate greatly. And I think before we get going, we're going to talk about your gut is talking, are you listening? But before we do that, explain to us the difference between what you guys do at Centurion Labs versus what maybe some of the other, and I know you don't always like talking about yourself, but you have high-quality products. Give yourself a little commercial here.
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Yeah, you know, our big thing is we want to make sure that we're bringing quality products to market. So we're always going to look for the vitamins, supplements, minerals, whatever it is that your body's actually going to be able to use. And then we will test all the ingredients and make sure that what's in it, what we say is in it, is actually in it and make sure that the manufacturers are getting everything right for us. So we want to go above and beyond any time we can to ensure that people can come back and truly take ownership of their health. Because if somebody is willing to go out and get a supplement and they're willing to invest in their health, we want to make sure that what they're getting is what is actually in the bottle and what they're looking for.
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Okay. So here's a question. Does every other supplement company out there, and there's some all around the world, by the way, but do they all do the same thing?
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They are supposed to. Now, the biggest difference that you'll probably see, and there are some horror stories out there. I actually know of one particular company that went out. and they were testing some of the competitors on Amazon specifically, and they had fake testing that was out there. So they had put up these test results. They ended up calling the company to see the testing company to see if they actually did it, and they had not been tested at all. They said it was a fraud and that it wasn't real. So that does happen, and those are things that I think when you're getting things online, you have to be very, very wary of. And then the other thing is they may do testing, but it may not be the high-quality, most bioavailable ingredient. So you always want to make sure that whatever you're getting, your body can actually use. Most of the cheaper supplements that are out there, they're using what I call the synthetic vitamins or kind of the lab-tested vitamins that don't really give your body as much value as it should, and you end up just kind of
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getting rid of it is run through your system right that's right that's right so you don't actually get to use it okay now for those folks that are listening a use centurion labs you don't have to worry about that everything is on the up and up because that's what we're talking about but let's say they've got some things maybe troy that are already in you know the medicine cabinet is something i don't think you and i've ever talked about number one do those things expire
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You know, that is a question we get a lot. And what I have seen and read is most products, honestly, whether they're pharmaceutical products or even supplements, will last easily five years if they're in climate-controlled. And I've seen some studies that suggest up to 10 years. Now, what you may end up having, especially if it's a pharmaceutical-type product, is it becomes less effective. Okay. the power of it becomes a little bit less. But it doesn't expire to the extent that you may get sick from it. It's usually just it's not going to be as effective as when you first bought it.
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Got it. Its potency starts to drop, I guess, is what you're saying. Correct. Okay. Correct. So for those of you listening, that may be something where you want to take some time here over the next week or two and just kind of go through the medicine cabinet. Do you have a lot of supplements and things like that that might be even getting to that five-year mark? And if so, I would recommend that. A, what is it and why haven't you been taking it? Did you just buy it on a whim and you've never really taken it and it's gotten old? Well, if that's the case, then dispose of it. Now, this is something, again, Troy, I don't think I've asked anybody ever, you included. How do you dispose of them? Is that something on a supplement you can just throw in the trash or should we do something different with them?
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Yeah, I mean, most of those do just go in the trash because they'll end up most supplements and other things like that are really vitamins that are found in nature, but maybe synthetically made in some cases. And they'll just bio, you know, they'll end up breaking down over time if they go into a landfill.
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OK, now, for some of you that like to do some things differently where you don't want to sell, you know, put the whole bottle in because it's plastic and so on. If you want to empty those out and then do something else with the bottle, you know, be my guest. In some cases, you might even be able to reuse the bottle for nuts and bolts or things like that you have around the shop or whatever you feel like doing. But let's get into the your gut is talking. Are you listening into things, Troy, which we talk on this program, especially during this hour? a lot about gut health because I've learned through the years, especially from doing interviews like this, that it's a lot more important than we think. In other words, if your gut's not happy, your body's not happy.
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That is very true. And I think that's one of the reasons with gut health, they talk about the gut now being the second brain. So it's one of those things that it helps with your immune system. It helps with your skin. We know that it also helps with your mood, and affects really just about everything. There are studies that show about 90% of your serotonin is actually produced in your gut, which is that neurotransmitter that helps us feel good. kind of the feel-good neurotransmitter, if you will.
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Okay. So, I mean, I'm going to speak from experience because I think most of us can relate to this. You know, you have a big meal for whatever reason. You went out and you celebrate it, or it's a holiday or whatever the case may be, and, you know, you end up eating a little more because all the food is delicious, and, you know, maybe lots of family have brought different things over, and you sort of gorge yourself, if you would. And I will just tell you straight up that when those events – happened, Troy. I know I, I don't know about everybody else, but I know that I in particular, when that's done, it's sort of like, you know, that old commercial, I can't believe I ate the whole thing. You know, you just feel awful and exhausted.
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Yes. And we have all been there in the United States where we eat way more than we should. and that's because it's in front of us and we're indulging our taste buds. We're not necessarily doing what's best for our body, and it does. It will affect your outlook. It can cause you to be more sluggish, and you're just creating a huge drain because your body is taking all the blood from the other places that it needs to and going to your gut because you've now created a scenario where you've got to digest blood this large amount of food, and it's tough to do.
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Now, I know the other end of the spectrum is also where you're hungry, you maybe should have stopped to eat, you didn't, you maybe haven't even drank as much water and fluids as you should be, so now you're hangry and you're not making really good choices and or you're probably reacting to things in a way that you shouldn't be because, again, now we're at the opposite end of the spectrum.
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That's right, and that really probably has more to do with your blood sugar levels than it does with the gut itself. So blood sugar levels can fluctuate. So if you're not getting the blood sugar you need, that's where most people get into the angry mode and start to bite people's heads off because they haven't had their fix and blood sugar regulated.
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Talk to us about some of the common digestive issues that folks have. I mean, we can talk about fatigue and bloating and some of that like we just did, but I know there's other things that, and I know this is where it gets very, I think, difficult because even inside of a family, Troy, it's not a one-size-fits-all. What may work really well for one may not work for the other, even husband and wife or one kid to another. This isn't an everybody's created equal thing, is it?
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It is not. And I think you can look no further than the fact in one family, somebody could be lactose intolerant. Somebody else could have sensitivities to gluten and some of the processed foods that are out there. And I think really that's where the biggest issue comes in is how highly processed all of our foods are right now. I was actually talking to a young lady from Germany the other day and she was we were out. to eat with family. And she was talking about how she had been so bloated and felt so horrible since she had been in the States because of how highly processed our food is. And the, the wheat is different here than it is oftentimes in Europe. And she says she doesn't feel that way when she eats the same food in Europe than she did here, which was pretty eyeopening. And you hear a lot of people talk about when they go over to Europe and how they feel much better. It's rare that I get to talk to somebody about their experience when they come here.
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Troy, I mean, it's funny. I was talking about this a couple of weeks ago. I go south of the border quite often. It's one of my funner places to go vacation. I think for me, the service level is just second to none in other places, and I like that part of it. I mean, I think for me, I'm usually serving and doing so many things for everybody else on a daily basis that to go somewhere and have the alternative is great and I enjoy it. And on top of that, I will tell you that, and my wife and I were mentioning that just this last trip, whereby I feel different because of what you're talking about even there versus here.
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Yeah, and a lot of it has to do with the fact that we know that Most of our grains, most of our wheat specifically, is going to be loaded up with a lot of supplemental vitamins. Fillers. Yeah, they did fortification in 1998, and every pasta, bread, cookie, cracker, anything that has wheat in it, They have put in folic acid. They've put in B vitamins, all kinds of things to it. And I think that, along with some of the way that we process the wheat now, has a big, big impact on how we can digest things.
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I can tell you firsthand that we notice a big difference. You know what it's like when you're on vacation. You tend to eat just a little bit more than you would normally. But it's funny. I will eat what I consider to be maybe a little bit larger meal than I would have here and yet feel literally no adverse effects. If I were to eat that same meal here, I would feel completely different is my point. It really, to me, it's becoming more and more eye-opening to the point where here it's like, okay, I want to make sure I eat as clean as I possibly can because you just feel better.
SPEAKER 15 :
You feel a lot better. And it's amazing when you go to a place like that where they don't have a lot of these additives. And the next morning when you get up, your joints don't hurt near as bad as they do here. It is very interesting how that happens for sure.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, talk to us about gut health having an impact even on, and you mentioned it early coming in, you know, skin, biggest organ that we have. Our gut health and immune system both, you know, I should say gut health has a big impact upon our skin and our immune system both. Talk about that if you would.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, about 70% of our immune cells are actually made in the gut. So they're in the gut lining. That's where... a lot of times is the first introduction of some kind of bacteria or a viral infection is in our gut. So you've got a lot of immune health tied to that. So if you do not have a strong or healthy gut, then it makes it that much harder for us to fight off any bacteria or viral infection that we may take in. And from a skin standpoint, they have linked gut health to things like acne, eczema, and even rosacea. So those things we know have a huge balance between having good gut health and proper skin. and skin reactions to what's going on. So it's a big deal, definitely.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and I think a lot of times when you're teenagers, you realize that, oh, gosh, I ate such and such and I had a breakout. It's almost like, okay, we get through that phase, puberty and things like that, Troy, in our lives, and yet when we become adults, we sort of forget that there's a correlation there.
SPEAKER 15 :
We do, and a lot of it's because we don't have as much inflammation there going on when we're older, at least from our skin standpoint, as we do when we're going through that stage of we've got all kinds of hormones raging and everything else when you're in the teenage years. So that, on top of a bad gut with the things that you eat, increases the inflammation and it comes out in our skin. But as adults, we still deal with it from time to time, too, with either breakouts or if you suffer from eczema, then that can be one of the things that flares it up and makes it even worse.
SPEAKER 13 :
So if those are things that you're very sensitive to, it's something else to remember. Okay, when it comes to the supplement end of things, are there things that, and I get it, it's not a one-size-fits-all, so I'm not trying to, you know, you or any of our listeners hold you to anything, Troy, but, you know, if you're sensitive to certain things or if you struggle with certain things, are there certain supplements we could be taking to help us with that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, there are a lot of things that you can do. First, I think it goes back to what we talked about earlier, which is your diet, making sure that you're avoiding those processed foods, that you're getting whole foods and you change your diet and that will help change your gut. The next thing is find a good quality probiotic or prebiotic to kind of help. And then there are things like psyllium husk that can be good for taking in the fiber to make sure that you're staying regular and getting your gut working again. And then betaine, which is kind of your stomach acid. They found that, which I thought this was interesting, if... You have reflux. Most of us think that it's because we have too much stomach acid going on, but there have been some studies to suggest that that usually is because you have too little stomach acid that is available. So taking betaine will help increase that and they found that it actually helps reduce reflux. So there are some great things that you can do with just those three or four items that I think would be really good for people to start taking.
SPEAKER 13 :
For years and years, and I'm not sure how accurate some of these things are, and this is a question I had for you when it comes to, you know, we need more fiber in the diet, fiber in the diet, fiber in the diet. And then there's some cereal ad or something along those lines, which, by the way, usually contains all sorts of other things besides fiber that I'm not sure really is good for us to eat. But what's the rule of thumb on how much fiber we should be getting, and does it change with age?
SPEAKER 15 :
It does change a little bit with age. The typical recommendation is about 25 to 35 grams of fiber per day. And you want to have the two forms that are there. You've got soluble fiber and insoluble fiber. So that insoluble is what kind of adds the bulk to it and helps prevent constipation. And the soluble is just going to help really more with the probiotics and your gut health overall. Two different forms, about 25 to 35 grams per day.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So it's not something we should ignore on the same token. And I guess this is a question. I mean, what type? Again, a lot of those commercials are for cereals, which frankly contain all sorts of things we probably shouldn't be eating in the first place. So when it comes to fiber, where should we be getting that from? I mean, is there a supplement we should be taking? Is it the food? Is it a combo? What is it?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's a combo. And I would always recommend, again, going back to the diet. And the diet, you can add those fermented foods in there. You can get that for your probiotics, but then you want your leafy greens to help get the fiber in. And we know that if you're eating your vegetables, you're eating your fruit, just like mom always said, then you're going to get more fiber in your diet. And the more we do that, the healthier we'll be. So it really does come back to just common sense things. We don't have to go and do anything special. If it's processed, meaning if it's cereal in a box and it's talking about all the fiber that it has, it's probably not the best choice. But if it's the only thing you can do and the only possibility for you to get the fiber that you need, then definitely do that. But I would recommend getting the fruits, the vegetables, and making sure you're getting it from Whole Foods. And then adding a supplement on top of that if you can't get the full fiber that you need or if you need a little bit more to kind of help your body kick into gear.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know last time you were on, you have a new website or a new URL to go to, a website as well because I've been there. So talk about that. Let folks know how they can find you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, so you can go to centurion.health. So that's C-E-N-T-U-R-I-O-N.health.
SPEAKER 13 :
and that's our new site love to have anybody come out there and check it out and happy to help any way we can yeah and i say this a lot but i mean it folks if you have a question as well there's a button there you can click on that or a link i should say click on that ask questions get your answers if you would a lot of times you guys will text me for things that i'll just be straight up honest i'm a car guy i don't have the answer to a lot of these things. I have to refer you to guys like Troy because, Troy, I'm at the mechanical end of things. I'm at the opposite end. I do this just because I enjoy it. I learn a lot every Wednesday. It's a lot of fun. I believe wholeheartedly that the healthier and part of why I do this... This is not a health and wellness show all week long, but we do this hour each week because I do believe that the healthier that we are, the more clear we have our heads, the better decisions we make, the better we are as, in my case, husbands and fathers and workers and all of that. So I firmly believe that the better health we have, the better we are for all those folks that are around us and the better lives that we lead. That's why I spend an hour each week doing this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Totally agree. I think the more we do that and the more we can take ownership of our health, the less we have to rely on anybody else to kind of take care of us and the more we can start taking care of other people. So, right there with you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and as conservatives, I believe in being responsible. That's one of the core principles of what we as conservatives believe in. So, again, I add that into this whole conversation, Troy, and why we spend an hour each week I do get a question every now and then on, you know, why do you spend an hour each week when there's all these other important things, you know, around the world going on? We've got wars and we have this and we have financial woes and, you know, talk of the Fed chair, you know, either resigning or being fired and all these other things that we could talk about. Why do you spend an hour each week talking about health and wellness? Well, Troy, I just gave the example because I do feel like as conservatives, we should be responsible for ourselves and not rely on someone else to do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
I totally agree, and one thing always sticks out in my mind. When 9-11 happened, one of the things that stuck out to me, I was watching an interview, and somebody was talking that they wanted to be in shape because they didn't want to be one of the ones at the top of the building, forcing firefighters up to rescue them. Great point. they were not in shape to get down the stairs. So that's always stuck out to me, and I think that is our duty with our communities and our families to be in the best shape possible so we can help take care of them if we need to.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, one of you sent me this. Thank you, by the way. This is a little quote that was sent to me a moment ago, going along with what we talked about with Troy a moment ago in regards to your body and our health and so on. Your body doesn't lie. It reflects every decision you've made until now, the way you look, the way you feel, the person you're becoming. It's all shaped by the habits you repeat day in, day out. Thank you, by the way. That is very appropriate for what we were just talking about with Troy a moment ago. Great listeners. Thank you guys so much for sending those things in. I appreciate it. It makes my job way easier. All right, two more hours coming your way. That was health and wellness this Wednesday. We'll be back, though. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
The Rich Guy.
Discover the deeper messages from the Last Supper, where Jesus taught his disciples about joy, love, and humility. Through vivid illustrations like foot washing, understand the significance of forgiveness and how positivity can emerge even amidst betrayal. Learn how impersonal love leads to inner joy and how maintaining a fulfilling relationship with God requires daily cleansing from sins.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. For the next few minutes, please stick around. It'll be about 30 minutes of motivation, Some inspiration, a whole lot of education, and absolutely no manipulation, no solicitation, just 30 minutes of education, giving you the word of God so that you can learn how to verify and identify God's plan for your life, hopefully, and hopefully you will orient and adjust to the plan. Remember, God gave you two ends, one of them you sit with and one of them you think with. And success in your life, my life, depends on which one we use. Heads will win and tails will lose. In 2 Peter 3.18, the Bible commands us to grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The word grow is a verb. Oxano is the Greek verb. Oxano, grow. It means to increase, increase in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And that's not a request. In the Greek New Testament, that's what we call an imperative mood verb, which means it's a divine command, not a recommendation. So the principle is simply this, that no one ever grew spiritually by singing praise songs about God or to God. Spiritual growth comes through 2 Timothy 2.15. Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Study is another verb, like grow. Grow was a verb, now study's a verb. This word study was the Greek word spoudazo. Spoudazo, it meant to be diligent, to endeavor to learn. And again, an imperative mood verb, just like the word grow. This is a command. It's not a request. So every believer in the Lord Jesus Christ must know and must understand the spiritual life if he hopes to glorify God to the max. That's why we have a show like The Flotlines. I'm not a pastor. I'm not trying to be your pastor. My job is to point you to a well-qualified pastor to expose you to a way of studying the word of God that will prick an interest in your soul so that you'll want to grow spiritually. You know, you have mentality in your soul. You have the ability to think logic and reason. You have volition in your soul. You have the ability to choose. You have a conscience and a self-consciousness. but the way we live the Christian life is in our soul. So we have to change how our soul lives before we can change the actions of our life. If we don't change the way we think we've never changed the way we live is what I'm trying to say. So until we learn and apply the word of God, you continue to follow the same patterns, the same trends, make the same mistakes. What I want to share with you today, and maybe for the next couple of days, Our thoughts on this very thing as the Lord Jesus Christ spoke to the disciples about changing the way they think. He recognized that the disciples were going to undergo tremendous persecution. And at the Last Supper, John chapter 13, 14, and 15, he gave them some tremendous information, information they were not even aware of that they were going to need. But this is what he said in John 15, 11. He said, these things I have spoken unto you so that my joy might remain in you and that your joy might be full. These things is the antecedent to beginning in John chapter 13 and coming all the way up to John 15, 11. That's what these things refers to. These things are a lot of different doctrines that the Lord Jesus Christ taught them. And he said, I'm speaking these to you so that my joy, plus H, is a problem-solving device. It's one of the 10 unique problem-solving devices. It's sharing the happiness of God. And the Lord Jesus Christ is telling them they can share his happiness right here. So that my joy might remain in you. Might remain is a verb called minnow, and it's a subjective mood verb, means it's potential. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. If you learn these things, if you do these things, it will. The active voice means the subject produces the action of the verb and the subject are the disciples. So if you do what I've told you from John 13 to John 15, 11, my joy will remain in you, in you, in your attitude, in the way you think. What he's instructing them to do is how to think, how to live. See, this is where you live your Christian life. Again, God gave you two ends. You gotta learn to think. That's why the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. Thinking is in the soul, and what the soul says, the body does. So these sayings, again, the things that he taught, the antecedent to this verse, these sayings I've spoken to you so that my joy, the Greek word kara, C-H-A-R-A, something that he possessed, something that was his, And he said, my joy could remain in you. So the Lord Jesus Christ is now teaching them how to be happy. And then he goes on to say, with a conjunction, and, and what? That your joy, your kara, might be full, might be full. Another verb, the subjunctive mood, means potential. It could be full and it could be empty. The passive voice means the subject receives the action of the verb, and in this case, the receiving would be the Holy Spirit gives that joy. if they listen to what the Lord Jesus Christ said, and if they do what the Lord Jesus Christ told them to do. These things I've spoken to you so that my joy, plus H, might remain in you, change the way you think, stay in your attitude, and that your joy might be full. Plero is the Greek word, plero. And it means to be absolutely full, to be filled up. So these words of the Lord Jesus Christ spoken to the disciples after a lengthy dinner, which we call the Last Supper, It's obvious he knew what was coming. It's obvious that he knew what they would be facing, and when he left, he knew that. And so these things refers to everything he said to them during that meal, the Last Supper. And we learn that Jesus Christ was giving them the secret to happiness. The Greek word, makarios, happiness. And during the coming years after his departure, they were going to face the same thing he faced. They would be persecuted exactly like he would be persecuted. And they could have the same joy he had in the midst of all of that. That does not mean he ran around jumping up and down saying, I'm so happy. Like there's a fellow that's the duck commander that wrote a book called Happy, Happy, Happy. Well, I don't know that you would say Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior was happy, happy, happy on that cross. But I can tell you this, the greatest joy in his life was fulfilling the Father's plan. And the greatest joy in your life, the greatest joy you will ever have is when you know you're absolutely in the middle of God's wonderful plan for you and you have confidence that you are completing that plan. Until that time, you'll always wonder what your life was about. You never will reach a personal sense of destiny because you don't study and you don't grow. You're not under a well-qualified pastor. You're not learning God's word consistently. Maybe you're just kind of going to church on Sunday and take it in and go home and head for the restaurant and forget about what he said. It's a matter of growth. All 12 of these disciples were present for this meal, commonly called the Passover meal. The Apostle Paul called it the Lord's Supper in 1 Corinthians 11, 20. And he gave specific instructions, the Apostle Paul did, not to partake of the Lord's Supper with unconfessed sin in your life or you would get disciplined for that. So let's examine what the Lord taught in these passages. so that we can connect it to the Greek word tata, tata, which literally means afterwards or once the meal was finished, what we're told during that meal, these things, tata, these things, it's the Greek word tata. And here's the first lesson Jesus taught them. Now I'm gonna back up, back up, back up these things, back up to chapter, John chapter 13. They just got through eating, They've just had the meal, and here's John now recounting what's happening. He's recounting the foot washing episode, which is something those disciples had never seen Jesus do or never even heard Jesus suggest that they would do. It's obvious to the Lord that he was about to be betrayed by someone he had trusted. John wrote in John 13, 3, and after supper being ended, The devil now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him. Our Lord knew that. And so Judas bought into some reason, I don't know why, Judas bought into this lie that he should betray the Lord. I don't know who Satan used to put it in his mind, but he tempted him with something. He was tempted with something, some reason, some means. No one really knows why he betrayed the Lord. We know that he was the keeper of the money, you know, that he kept money and that the treasury of the disciples, he was the one that took care of that. And some people figure maybe he stole from it. Maybe he was pilfering off to the side. Who knows? But we know that the Lord Jesus Christ knew Judas was going to betray him. And now when the Lord starts washing the disciples' feet, Peter was taken back by this gesture. And he let the Lord know about it. In John 13, verse six, Lord, you're not gonna wash my feet. And then the Lord told him that he might not understand it right now, but that he would understand it later. And this is the Lord Jesus Christ teaching by an illustration. Peter did not seem to have this doctrine down yet, and so now he has to be illustrated what he meant by teaching him this. What I do now, John 13, 7, you don't understand, but you will know it hereafter. And so then Peter balked about that and declared, well, you're never going to wash my feet. That's the arrogance of Peter coming out. I'm not going to let you wash my feet, Lord. And the Lord Jesus Christ said, if I wash thee not, you have no part with me. When Peter heard this, he changed his attitude completely. And he said, Lord, how about giving me a complete bath? The secret is in the words that Jesus Christ used in the Greek New Testament. The word nipto, N-I-P-T-O, means a partial cleansing of the hands and the feet. And Jesus taught the meaning of that foot washing in John 13, 10. Here's what he said. He that is washed, and that's the Greek word luo, L-O-U-O, and that's salvation. That's absolute at salvation, absolution at salvation. He that is saved needeth not except to wash, nipto, his feet. Two different Greek words. Now, you wouldn't know that unless you had a well-qualified pastor that could explain that to you. But what the Lord is telling Peter is you've already had a bath, Peter. You've already been saved. You just need me to wash your feet. This is our need to be cleansed from sin on a daily moment by moment basis. This is exactly what Jesus Christ was teaching them. They have to have their feet cleaned. In 1 John 1, 9, the Bible says, if we confess our sin, he's faithful and just to forgive our sin and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. That's the first problem-solving device you and I have. It's called rebound. The problem we have was sin. We're saved, we've accepted Christ as our savior, but we still sin because we have Adam's original sin embedded in us. And so no one taught us how to hate. No one taught us how to lie. No one taught us how to be jealous. No one taught us how to lust. We just inherently knew that because we have a sin nature. And so when we sin, we have to be cleansed from that sin. And rebound is how you do it. You say, well, it's impossible for me to remember every sin I do. Well, certainly it is, but listen again. If we confess our sin, the ones we're aware of, he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sin and cleanse us from all the ones we're not aware of, all unrighteousness. So when we go to the Father and admit, I lusted, I lied, I cheated, I stole, I did this, I did that, then not only will God forgive you, even he'll forgive you for the ones you don't even remember. That's amazing. So when you go to the Lord Jesus Christ, to God the Father through the Lord Jesus Christ, when you go to God the Father through the Lord Jesus Christ and confess your sin, you are in essence having your feet washed or cleansed from sin. That's our need. And this is the basis for problem-solving device number two, which is the filling of the Holy Spirit. It's impossible for us to serve God, to learn about God, to worship God, if we're not filled with the Holy Spirit. And that's why we're mandated to be filled with the Holy Spirit in Ephesians 5.18. Because without the ministry of the Holy Spirit in your life, you're going to go nowhere spiritually. You see, when you accepted Christ, the Holy Spirit came to live in you and he sealed you until the day of redemption. And then you're told by the Apostle Paul that you need to be filled with the Spirit. And this happens when you rebound. When you confess any known sin, you subdue the sin nature and you allow the Holy Spirit to regain control. But when you sin, then you quench and grieve the Holy Spirit, the Bible says. And so the flesh wars against the spirit. The spirit wars against the flesh. And these are contrary one to the other so that we can't do the things we want to do. Paul said, I don't understand myself at all. Sometimes I wanna do what's right and I inevitably do what's wrong. It's because we have sin. And so the filling of the Holy Spirit is mandated. And here is some of the first principles we need to learn from this foot washing episode. Principle number one, sometimes the people you trust the most will let you down. There had been a lot of trust in Judas. He had been, as I said, he has taken care of the treasury, the money, made sure they had food to eat, made sure they took care of the poor, and he was trusted, and yet he let them down. And secondly, remember this, he did wash Judas' feet. We must forgive them just as the Lord forgives us. Listen to Ephesians 4.32. You're never allowed to hold a grudge. You're never allowed to get even with anyone. I remember a friend of mine used to say, I got a black book. I'm going to put your name in it. I'm going to get even with you. That's not allowed in the Bible. Listen, Ephesians 4, 32. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another as God, for Christ's sake, forgave you. Every one of those disciples watched Judas get his feet washed and trusted Judas with the finances. And every one of them had to forgive him. They could not hold a grudge. They could not be bitter. They could not seek to be vindictive and get revenge. They had to forgive him. And that's exactly what the Lord was teaching. Not only am I going to wash your feet and forgive you for your sin, but you're going to have to forgive those who sin against you. Point three, there's a difference between being saved and being cleansed. Nepto and luo, the difference between being saved and being cleansed. Luo means you've had the bath, you've been saved. Nepto means you gotta get your feet washed. So the difference is between positional truth, your relationship to God through Christ, and experiential truth, your fellowship with God through the ministry of the Holy Spirit. You cannot be in fellowship with God with unconfessed sin in your life. It quenches and grieves the Holy Spirit. And you have to learn this, principle number four. You have to learn not to be bitter when you get betrayed by those you trust. I know I'm meddling now, but listen to me carefully. You have to learn, don't be bitter when you are betrayed by those you trusted. Some of you trusted doctors, some of you trusted lawyers, some of you trusted friends, and they betrayed your trust. Listen to Hebrews 12, 15. See to it that no one fails to obtain the grace of God, and that no root of bitterness springs up and causes trouble, and by it many are defiled. The word defiled is an interesting word, the Greek word meino, and it actually means what's in the bedpan pot beside the bed. They didn't have indoor plumbing. They had bed pots, and so if someone got up in the middle of the night and had to use the bathroom, they used the pot. And if a woman went out in the morning to empty the pot in the street, she would say, me I know. In other words, get away, here it comes. That's what happens when you get bitter. You defile your soul. Your soul becomes a septic tank. You can't afford to let that happen. And so the root of bitterness, if you are bitter right now against a person, against a pastor, against a deacon, against a friend, if you have that hatred and bitterness, that is sin. And that is quenching the Holy Spirit. And you must confess that sin to God. Get rid of it. Don't let it control you any longer. So in John 13, 14, the Lord emphasized this. They must learn to forgive one another. Here's what he said. about forgiving one another he said if i your lord and master have washed your feet you also ought to wash one another's feet now he never taught them to go about washing feet that's an illustration the disciples never talked about it they never did it no there's nothing in their bible about it anywhere else this was all an illustration about forgiveness and so if i can forgive you you have to forgive one another And then in John 13, 17, here's the word again. If you know what I just taught you, you will be happy. Makairios, it's a different word than kara. Kara is the word joy and makairios is the word happiness. If you know these things, know what things? The things I just taught you about foot washing. You will be happy doing them. The happiness he's speaking of here is the central essence of your Christian life. We know it as problem-solving device number nine, sharing the happiness of God. It's a life with what I call objective optimism, plus a relaxed mental attitude produced by inner joy and confidence that comes from the word of God that's stored in your soul. You will never have any more joy in your life than when you're in the middle of the plan of God for your life and you understand your mission as an influencer for Jesus Christ and the devil's world. This was never, point six, a mandate to establish foot washing. as any sort of ritual, but rather it was a teaching tool to reach the thick-headed disciples who seemed to learn best when the Lord gave them practical illustrations. And their future happiness was now being linked to being obedient to the principles he taught them. They are part of these things mentioned in John 15, 11, foot washing. Another one of these things the Lord taught, it's found in John 13, 21. Here he identified the trader that would sell him out for 30 pieces of silver. one of you will betray me john 13 21 judas was identified by jesus when giving the piece of bread that he dipped in the wine and he told him this he said in john 13 27 what you do do quickly get it over with go ahead now here's what's weird those thick-headed disciples still didn't catch on In John 13, 29, some disciples thought Judas had, because Judas had the money bag, and I'm quoting the scripture here, that Jesus was telling him to go buy merchandise for the feast or that he should give something to the poor. They still didn't get it. However, the Lord Jesus Christ knew exactly what was in that man's heart because he had the ability as God to read his mind. He can see what you're thinking. He can see your motives, your intentions, and your desires. So the principle is learn this, pay attention to what the Lord says. It's obvious they weren't paying much attention. They had just eaten a fine meal. They were fellowshipping with one another. The Lord had just washed their feet, and they were probably yik-yacking, talking back and forth with one another and not really paying attention when they should have been. You should have been. There are times when if you're around your pastor and he's not in the pulpit, you might better pay really close attention to the small details, the things that he tells you. So another one of these things found in John chapter 13 is what we call the new commandment. He gave them a new commandment. Listen to this. John 13, 34. This is these things I say to you. A new commandment I give unto you. that you love one another as I have loved you, and that you love one another. By this shall all men know you're my disciples if you love one another. Well, do you think they had a problem with each other? Certainly they did. These were all type A personalities. They were fishermen. They were strong individuals. They fought and bickered about who was the greatest. I'll show you that here in a minute. And so they had to learn to forgive each other and to actually love each other. Jesus knew the tactics of the enemy, a.k.a. the devil, was going to be to divide and conquer. And these disciples were all plus-A personalities that constantly had disagreements. During his last evening with the apostles, Jesus said, has provided them with a fine lesson in humble service by washing their feet. Why was that fitting? Because of a weakness they had shown already. They're devoted to God, and yet they're still concerned about which one of them is the greatest. You can read it for yourself in Mark 9, 33, 34, Mark 10, 35, 37. That weakness resurfaced this evening. They became involved in a heated dispute among them among which one was considered to be the greatest. Listen to Luke 22, 24. However, there arose a heated dispute among them over which one of them was considered to be the greatest. There it is. You've got to learn that's not what greatness is. The doctrine of impersonal love was being taught by the Lord Jesus Christ, demonstrated by the Lord Jesus Christ when he washed their feet, but they missed the whole thing. Remember, personal love for God is your motivational virtue in life, and impersonal love for others is your functional virtue in life. You have to learn how to love based on your character, not someone else's character. They missed it. They missed it. They didn't ever get it. And so the Bible says, from there they went out and began to go through Galilee, and he did not want anyone to know about it. For he was teaching his disciples and telling them, the Son of Man is to be delivered to the hands of man, and they will kill him. And when he has been killed, he will rise on the third day. They did not understand this statement and they were afraid to ask him. And then they came to Capernaum. And when he was in the house, he began to question them. What were you guys discussing on the way over here? But they kept silent for on the way they had been discussing with one another about Which one of them was the greatest? Sitting down, he called the 12 of them together and said to them, if anyone wants to be first, he needs first of all to be last and a servant to all. Thick-headed carnal Christians can destroy a church quickly through this sort of inordinate competition. Arrogance motivates the believer to strive for success inordinately and to compete with his friends and to use people to control people and accept approbation. The believer's arrogant lust for ascendancy and success destroys his true scale of values. You must learn to have impersonal love. I'm going to have to come back to this next week because there's a lot more to be said about these things. I hope you're learning something. Hope you're listening. I hope you'll go read John 13, 14, and up to 15, 11, and see the things that Jesus talked about. Until then, next week, Sunday, same time, same place, I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
In this episode of Sportsman Colorado, Scott Whatley invites listeners on an engaging journey from recapping a lively event at Big Horn Firearms to diving into the intricate world of firearm legislation. Ryan Resch of Big Horn Firearms shares the joys and challenges of running a firearms business, especially in light of changing regulations. The show starts with an exciting announcement about an adventure-packed upcoming episode and then eases into stories of community gatherings featuring tacos and tattoos. As regulatory landscapes shift, the conversation delves into the impact on both store operations and customer experiences. Ryan candidly talks about the three-day waiting period for firearms purchases, the intricacies of concealed carry permits, and how these changes affect the wider firearms community. For those passionate about firearms and the great outdoors, this episode offers valuable insights and emphasizes the importance of supporting local, family-owned businesses. Listeners are treated to a narrative that captures the essence of Colorado's outdoor spirit and the steadfast dedication of a business determined to serve their community amidst evolving challenges. Tune in for a reflective and informative exploration of the dynamic between outdoor adventures and the legal framework that surrounds the firearms industry.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Whatley.
SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome to Sportsman Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us. We are glad you are with us. Hey, next week, join us. Real quick programming note. Kevin Flesch and I just returned from Pelican, Alaska with our friends at the Wild Alaskan Lodge. Next week, we'll be playing some interviews that we did while we were on location there. And telling you all about our trip. It was so much fun. Caught a lot of fish, but I'll just leave it there so we don't spoil anything for next week. So make sure you join us next week for that. Again, the Wild Alaskan Lodge, it is self-guided. uh they take care of you on everything but hey you go out in the morning with the boat hit the ocean and it's your day see alaska your way so uh it'll be a fun show and i hope you'll join us but today we're going to kick it off with our good buddy ryan resh big horn firearms we were over there a few weeks ago a big day on a saturday and that ryan had some special things going on so first of all welcome back ryan how are you
SPEAKER 05 :
great to be here i'm doing doing well good man that was a fun day a few weeks ago i can't remember what date that was now it seems man time flies so much but uh oh man a lot of a lot of fun a lot of people showed up yeah yeah we had a really great turnout uh we had our friends from uh q and uh black canyon systems out at the store hanging out we had a taco truck and gave away some cool raffle items and had an awesome turnout. I don't know. I'd say we had well over 100 people in and out throughout the day because I think we did 70-something plates off the taco truck. So that's how many people ate.
SPEAKER 09 :
A lot of people think, you know, eating tacos off a truck, you don't know the people. But I'm telling you, that was good food.
SPEAKER 05 :
Super good, high-quality, authentic. They're one of our go-tos. They're actually – have a truck that's parked in the liquor store parking lot around the corner from us at the intersection of Holly and Evans. And they're set up there every day. And so we frequent the truck on a regular basis a couple times a week at least. And they've just been always on point. And I felt like having them come out and cater to the event, the food was even better. tastier and fresher they definitely cooked up a special uh batch and menu just for the event which was really cool so Everybody seemed really satisfied with that. I'll tell you, dude, I was shocked.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, we had tacos and tattoos.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. We did have our friend Spencer out there. And I was shocked.
SPEAKER 09 :
I walked in there. There were like eight people in line to get tattoos at your store.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. I think we definitely had a friend out there doing some tattoos, and it was a good turnout for that as well. Yeah. I think everything was, you know, per health code.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I sat in there and watched a bit because I've never been brave enough to do that, to be quite honest with you. And I watched him do a few. No, he was super.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. No, he was. I just don't know if we needed a permit for that or something. So hopefully, you know, nobody from the city is listening. And we won't be doing that again in the future. Absolutely not. Exactly.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
I was telling you this before we came on air. I don't know what it is about your client base, but, man, every year over these last two or three years we've been doing this show and coming out there, man, just the nicest people. I mean, they hang out for hours there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we've got great customers. I think it says a lot about what we're doing over there. We tend to attract the people that are truly interested and passionate about firearms on the community level of it. Yeah. for whatever reason it may be, whether it's purely for recreation, competitive shooters, just fanboys or whatever, people who just really just love being around the gear and the people that love the gear. So it's cool. I mean, I met a lot of new people who came out because they just saw that we were doing this event, they hadn't been to the store yet. And this was the reason for them to come out and check us out. So, you know, I got to meet a lot of new people and then see a lot of very familiar faces, uh, throughout the day. And, uh, yeah, it was just no drama, just a good time. Everybody was chill, just relaxing. The Q guys were phenomenal. They were extremely knowledgeable on the product. Um, I mean, I, I sat in and just kind of in passing caught a couple of conversations and they were going into into deep detail on on um production methods and things like that so and they were very aware of who their audience was too so you know they could tell if somebody was like you know understanding what they were what so they were talking to them about and then they would maybe you know they could take it to whatever level yeah to meet that customer yeah absolutely and it was really cool to see that um it was very casual very laid back those guys have just a great attitude and a great approach to, um, informing the customers about, you know, why their products are, are the best. Um, you know, we, we got a lot of good content that day. We had our friends out, uh, from black Canyon systems and, uh, it's more of a like apparel lifestyle company. They're locally based, uh, Colton and, uh, Devin are like kind of the main, uh, characters there. And, uh, They were out there interacting with the crowd. They brought a lot of fans and customers out to the event as well. It was really cool to see. Those guys are really goofy. They have a good time. They like to just joke around quite a bit, and it comes off. It's always well-received by everybody, and it was just fun to have them there. And then, you know, staff was on point that day, you know, just hanging out, getting people taken care of, as always. I mean, those guys are always great.
SPEAKER 09 :
And your counters were loaded pretty much all day, dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. There were people there all day. Yeah, yeah. It was a fantastic turnout. We'd had some really good sales that day. And, you know, it wasn't just about that, but, you know, it's always nice when you do an event like that to, like, you know uh have a good sales day as well on top of it so we kind of had a cause a mission you were kind of donating some money yeah yeah that was uh um a seals foundation uh they they were uh basically uh recommended through the guys from q it was somebody that they had worked with uh previously but we wanted an extra way for people to get more raffle tickets so if you could donate money uh to the foundation you could spin the wheel, um, of chance again to see how many more raffle tickets you may win. So there, it was cool. We, we basically, everybody who showed up had a free mode of entry. You got to spin the wheel if you showed up and, uh, you got your, uh, whatever tickets the wheel dealt you out. And then, uh, you got your free tacos. And then we had a list of other ways of like making purchases or donating money to be able to spin the wheel additional, uh, additional times and get more tickets. So, yeah, it was great. We had some. Incredible giveaways. We gave away a fix, 8.6, 12-inch pistol, Q silencer, which Scott won. After one of our regular customers won both grand prizes. Yeah, he won both. So he got to choose one or the other. Between the gun or the suppressor, yeah. Yeah, it was something we had kind of predetermined that, like, hey, you know, this has happened at our events before. Yeah. You know, some people get a little bit sour when somebody takes the whole cake. But I don't know. I was kind of on the fence about how we were going to do that. My thing was like, hey, it's a raffle. It's a raffle. You win the thing. You take it all. You take it all. It's just how the game of chance is played.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I had 15 tickets and actually got drawn for three different deals.
SPEAKER 05 :
You did. I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I couldn't believe it.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, our raffles always seem to turn out that way where we have, and I mean, it's just completely random. I'm in there mixing the bucket around the whole time. My hand just apparently sticks to tickets that are for regular customers. Uh, I even had Colton, uh, grab some tickets out. I had, uh, Cole from Q pull a couple of the prize tickets and it was all, you know, our best regulars. Um, and Scott, you are a regular too. So it works out that way. It's, it's a lot of fun. Everybody was cool with it. Um, Shane who won both grand prizes, he was totally cool with, uh, choosing between a silencer and a fix, uh, q fix rifle or pistol sorry and uh he did choose choose the pistol and so we redrew on the silencer and scott pulled that one so yeah it was it was cool day a lot of fun um you know great people great food tattoos it was cool we'll let you know when they're going to be doing that again if you're just joining us ryan rush is with us he's the owner of bighorn firearms 2175
SPEAKER 09 :
South Jasmine Street in Denver. Celebrating 13 years. Yeah. Wow. So looking back, were there a few of those years along the way? Like, man, I don't know if we can do this. Or has it always been like every year you just kept believing and kept grinding?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment. So, you know, if it's not a challenge, I get bored pretty quickly. Yeah. this was a huge challenge, a lot of different, uh, junctures along the way, but you know, I'm not definitely, uh, not a quitter by blood. And, uh, that's just kind of how it goes, man. You know, it's not always easy, but you just keep on. And if it's something that you're truly passionate about, you'll overcome the hard times and, uh, and you'll get to reap, uh, reap the harvest down the road, you know, and, uh, and really it's just better, easier times, simple times. But like I said, I, you know, if it's not challenging, then I get bored. So I just tend to find out how to make it challenging again. And so I just kind of just, uh, live through the cycle of, um, you know, really hard times and really great times. And then I kind of set myself up for hard times again, because you know, I like to just grow the company and reinvest and, you know, figure out what's the next thing that, you know, people are after that they want to see in the store, the next evolution that they want to see of the store. So, you know, right now we're, just working through all the new regulations and stuff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Um, a lot of them say that our political, uh, scene has certainly delivered some of those challenges of late. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's, it's been a lot different than it was, uh, you know, it, it from day one to day, you know, year 13, you know, we've seen a lot of evolutions in, uh, regulations and, and, uh, things that we have to do to, uh, you know, remain above board. And, uh, that's, That's just part of the challenge too.
SPEAKER 09 :
So what are the things right now that kind of affect – there's a lot of things that affect you as a store owner and the store side, but what are the things that are affecting customers at this point?
SPEAKER 05 :
So some of the stuff we've been – getting comfortable with over the last six months, you know, the, uh, or longer, like the three day wait, you know, that's still a thing, you know, it can, it can cause some issues, you know, where people, you know, they have to wait. So then they end up dragging their feet too long and maybe their background check expires and then they have to resubmit a background check and then wait another three days. You know, that's something that we see. Somewhat often we try to, you know, stay up on that and make sure that people are getting notified that, hey, you know, your background checks can expire if you don't make it down here in the next week or so. But, you know, that's one thing that we see happen with the three day wait. You know, also, you know, people sometimes I've had, you know, folks come in and they're feeling threatened or, you know, need help. feeling like they need to be able to protect themselves a lot like today. And that's why they're there, you know, and then they find out that they got to wait 72 hours and you got to send them out the door with pepper spray. Right. You know, I guess it's better than nothing, but, you know, I've heard some kind of wacky things, you know, going on closer to like, you know, downtown and those areas, you know, where people are encountering, you know, vagrants and things like that in their back alleys by their garages or something like that and maybe they see something bad happening so they you know attempt to intervene by calling attention to a situation and then the people who are involved maybe now take note of who they are and so they become a target you know a couple different scenarios like that where You know, that three-day wait can be the difference between your safety and not. So concealed carry laws, July 1, that went into effect. So, you know, you need the full course. it went into effect July 1 but most people were you know having issues before that where they weren't able to get appointments for applications you know as early as like May June you know mid May to early June people were no longer able to get scheduled get appointments for applications to submit their for their concealed carry permit and So they're basically going to have to go take another course now unless the course was already satisfying the new requirements, which are eight hours with the additional testing and this, that, and the other thing. And then also 6.5% excise tax. Those are kind of all the things that you're seeing from a consumer standpoint that are new if you've been doing this for a while. I would say... You know, there hasn't been a lot of pushback. It's not really stopping people. Because I know it's not you. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, this is the last thing you wanted.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right. So, you know, people have, you know, been taking it with a grain of salt, man, and just kind of dealing with it. So we are still looking for somebody to partner with on the instructor side who offers the new course. It's not something we're offering in-house currently due to some, Um, you know, just, just staffing and things like that. It just wasn't, uh, we were not in a position to offer it in house at the moment. So we are looking for, uh, potential partnerships with local instructors who are verified by Denver County. It is a county to county thing, too, which is making it kind of difficult because if you want to teach classes outside of a particular county, I believe you have to get verified in that county as well. So still just kind of navigating through all that stuff, and we're hoping to be able to start offering concealed carry classes again maybe as soon as August or September is our hope. We are still offering the intro to pistol class, so for the new— the new gun owner um this is a great class for you to just get familiar with your pistol ask all the you know quote unquote you know dumb questions um but you know for a new uh gun owner i mean there's i mean for anybody really when it comes to guns there's no such thing as a dumb question uh we're happy to answer and spend as much time with you as we can at the counter But if that doesn't satisfy your needs, we do still offer the Intro to Pistol class, and you can sign up for that online at bighornfirearms.com. You know, and then everything else really is on a dealer level, the new stuff that we're working with, you know, additional paperwork requirements, updating displays and fixtures, secure gun storage during business hours, things like that, you know, some kind of silly things that the— you know, state is requiring for us to maintain a valid gun store, gun dealer license here that's now issued by the Department of Revenue. So, you know, just more, you know, government involvement in what we're doing, which, you know, at the end of the day, if you're in this business, yeah, it's just more, it is more stuff and it's more time consuming. It costs you more money to deal with it. But, You know, we're used to paperwork, you know, we're used to doing, you know, all this stuff for ATF. I don't know really what the goal was here and how this accomplishes the goal of public safety.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I think they were hoping a lot of people would just give up. You know, it's just too much hassle now. We're going to get out of Colorado, and I think that's what they were hoping. But from what I've seen, for the most part, most people have dug in and said, hey. And, of course, our big message here, even at today's show, hey, continue to support your local family-owned gun dealer, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're there for us when we need you, so we're here to be there for you. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I mean the, uh, we're here to help you, uh, exercise your right to keep them bare arms. So, you know, uh, anything, uh, we can do for you. Just let us know, give us a call at the shop 303-758-9423, or just pop in during our normal business hours, uh, Tuesday through Friday, 11 to six and a Saturday from 10 to five. Uh, and, uh, And outside of business hours, you can shoot an email to info at bighornfirearms.com. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Ryan Resch is with us. As he mentioned, Bighorn Firearms is a store at 2175 South Jasmine Street. Now, we've all heard over the last few months a lot about the big, beautiful bill. All right. And there's a lot of stuff in there. But a couple of interesting items for us as sportsmen and gun owners.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tell us about that. So they were trying to basically remove silencers. The initial goal was to remove silencers and SBRs and NFA items, just basically remove the NFA. And those particular items fall within NFA and require additional silencers paperwork, registration, and a tax of $200 per item. So, you know, if that would have passed in that form, and they would have removed the NFA, there was the potential for that to hurt us quite a bit here in Colorado, and potential for for gun owners in Colorado to no longer be able to purchase silencers because there would be no registration required. I don't know that the bill changed because of pushback from states like Colorado because there's a few other states or if they were having a hard time repealing the NFA. So what ultimately ended up happening is they reworded everything and they removed the tax or they reduced the tax to $0. Now, how do you have a $0 tax, right? So there could be potentially issues that come up down the road with a $0 tax because it is not really a tax. It's $0. So I don't know ultimately how things will play out long term.
SPEAKER 09 :
And we've still got six months because I think you said January 1 on that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. But as of now, there is a $0 tax and the $0 tax will start January 1 of 2026. So that's great. You no longer have to pay $200 to get registered for a silencer. You still will be required to submit the paperwork and get an approval from ATF and have the item registered with the ATF. And this is a silencers. short-barreled rifles short-barreled shotguns and other uh destructive uh devices that fall in the aow category also uh transferable machine guns um which uh would have to be manufactured before 1986 for them to be a transferable machine gun legal to to be owned privately by any citizen who pays the tax stamp and gets an approval from ATF, registers the item and receives an approval from ATF. So now that's great. A lot of people are like, well, I'll just wait till January and I'll buy a silencer then to avoid the $200 tax. Well, a lot of people are going to do that. And I anticipate... Huge demand. A huge demand come January 1. So limited product availability. You may see people... poaching or paying over MSRP through auction sites like gun broker or wherever, uh, online, um, you will also likely see longer wait times for approvals. So when ATF, uh, Okayed the e-forms process and announced 90-day turnaround times for silencer and Form 4 approvals. Mm-hmm. Um, what happened? There was a handful that took less than 90 days and then it got backlogged and everybody was taken nine months to 13 months. You'd see some come back sooner, maybe around six months, but average wait time was almost nine months. And that was when they promised 90 day approvals. Everybody surged and went and bought silencers cause they wanted a 90 day approval. So I would imagine come January, um, Everyone wants a free tax stamp, and we're going to see wait times, I don't know, potentially exceed the nine months. Now, this is just speculation.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, yeah, we don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is just based on things we've seen in the past. But, you know, if you want to get – we're seeing approvals right now. We just had one today, 24 hours. Actually, it's less than 24 hours. I submitted, certified this gentleman probably 2 or 3 o'clock in the afternoon yesterday. And he was approved this morning at 1030. Wow. I believe he even purchased his silencer yesterday. And we went from purchase to assignment to certification to approval in less than 24 hours. Unreal. So it's still a great time to buy if you can afford the $200 tax stamp, you know. Sure. I don't know. I've been kicking around some ideas of maybe doing a promo and maybe splitting the tax stamp or something like that, some way to get people excited about, well, at least I'm not paying $200 if Bighorn's splitting the tax stamp with me. So stay tuned for something like that. Follow us on Instagram.
SPEAKER 09 :
If you mention Sportsman of Colorado, maybe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. Come in and mention Sportsman of Colorado. I'll split the tax stamp with you. So it'll be a $100 discount off your silencer of your choice. All right. Well, we'll appreciate it. Yeah, we'll start there, and we'll see how it rolls. All right, cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, I do want to circle back because we talked about the 13-year deal, but you've got some special deals going on before we get out of here I want to mention.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so anniversary sale, 13 years. We are running that in-store this week through – the end of the day, close on Saturday, which is when you're going to hear this. Right. But we will extend it through the end of July for Sportsman of Colorado listeners. Just come in and just say happy anniversary. All right, that's the key word, happy anniversary. Yeah, happy anniversary. You'll get the deal. Sportsman of Colorado, boom, you get the deal, which is 10% off guns, 15% off optics, and 20% off equipment. There are some excluded items, but we're keeping it pretty limited on the exclusions. So just come in, you know, load up your shopping cart.
SPEAKER 09 :
I want to mention, I mean, a lot of times you see sales and, you know, people mark up prices to give a discount. But this is off your... What I would call your everyday low price that you put things on. It's true discounts off of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, sounds good. Ryan, appreciate your time.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us. Hopefully you joined us last week. And we have a co-host here with us from the United Houndsman of Colorado. Cody is back. How are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Good to be back. I'm doing good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, man. Good to see you. And Dan Gates, Colorado's responsible for wildlife management. and also the fame of Through the Gates podcast.
SPEAKER 02 :
It was more of a hangman's noose than anything.
SPEAKER 09 :
Man, I should have worn one of my sweatshirts or something with your picture on it, dude. What am I going to do with all that stuff? Cody, yeah, does he make you wear that like once a week and send a picture? No, you know what we do? We dress up like dummies.
SPEAKER 10 :
You don't have to dress very hard then, do you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Man, it was like the – Coffee mugs, sweatshirts.
SPEAKER 02 :
I didn't – you know, okay, with all transparency here, Luke Weedle and Bob Thompson from Marketplace, who helped do our social media stuff for our shopping cart, I didn't know we had a shopping cart. And I didn't know we had shirts with my damn face on it until – Until I went home and my wife was wearing one. And I said, what the heck is that? And she was laughing. She said, well, Luke and Bob did that. And I said, who the heck is Bob? And she goes, well, he's the guy running our shopping cart on the website. And I said, we have a shopping cart on the website? Does anybody discuss this?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, see, the beard made the sweatshirt and made the t-shirt. You know, it made a good look.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's a famous beard.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
I told him we should have bet him that, hey, if we win Prop 127, you've got to shave your beard. That's what we should have done.
SPEAKER 02 :
I lost intentionally. Nobody wants to see my face.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Dan. Hey, last week, you know, we had just a few minutes, and I asked you what are the biggest challenges facing us. So I want to move ahead a little bit to what's on the agenda, what's on the horizon, so to speak. And you've been talking a lot about a different initiative recently. um, that's coming up. So tell us what's going on.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And I don't want to bore anybody because politics is the least exciting, flashy object when it gets into hunting conversation. But, you know, Cody and I are currently working on the furbearer working group that was established under governor Polis's commission. Um, and it's an attempt to try to figure out a way to provide some sort of organic and holistic perspective on the way furbearers, the 17 species of furbearers are managed in the state of Colorado. You know, um, We don't know how that's going to turn out. We had our first meeting last week at 6060 Broadway, and it's about a three or four or five month process. The rules of engagement haven't completely been outlined yet. But at the same time, the Center for Biological Diversity, who is also on the working group, filed a petition, a citizen's petition, before the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission to ban the sale of fur-bearing animals, which means that if you were to harvest a coyote, you couldn't sell the pelt, which they deem as unethical. and steps away from the North American model of wildlife conservation. It does not. It's just that they read part of a paragraph to their particular liking. But if you look at a peer-reviewed study and listen to the authors of the North American model, which was... former, past Valerius Geist, current, still alive individual Shane Mahoney, John Organ. These people codified the model and the harvest of fur-bearing animals is in that and the market side of that is in that as well. Our adversaries want to continually talk about markets, markets, markets. Well, if you really stop and think about it, Scott, we still have markets for game. If you look at lobsters and if you look at a lot of the seabaring type stuff, there's a market there, but it's measured in an abundant management objective, just like fur-bearing animals. And the fur-bearing animals have been taken. And the reason I highlight that is because fur-bearing animals, including bobcats and mountain lions, which are not a fur-bearing animal, they're classified as a big game animal. have been under the gun for quite some time because of the opinions or perspectives of individual groups and individuals themselves that none of that should be harvested in any way, shape, or form, which then starts to degrade and erode the model. The reason I bring it up in that order is because there's a ballot initiative that's being circulated right now. And last week, on Friday, June 27th, it went before the legislative council to try to codify that to go in front of the title board. Initiative 98 was previously Initiative 82, which was previously Initiative 52. So they've gone multiple times to go through this process. And the scope of that would create an individual non-binding commission and a division itself that if you read the language within that context of initiative 98 it could and intended on defunding and disbanding colorado parks and wildlife and give an unequivocal authority to this particular commission about keystone species about public and private land about the management of all of the species in the state of colorado about the habitat management It talks about oil and gas. It references water and conservation issues. They want to turn around and take every single thing that we have, even though Cody and I and you might not agree with all of the workings of what the commission does or CPW's processes or procedures. at least we have a public process to be able to do so. This Initiative 98 will degrade and erode every single thing in Colorado when it comes to science-based wildlife management, the North American model, and the historical side of what Colorado Parks and Wildlife has done through 125 years of science-based wildlife management. If we're allowing that to get on the ballot, that's going to make... Proposition 127 looked like a Girl Scout cookie sale. That will be the worst thing that could possibly happen in Colorado history coming up to wildlife management. And if people are befuddled and misled and deceived through that entire process, we have a tough road to tow to turn around and try to stop that because their intent is to fund this through an original $5 million stipend from the General Assembly and then $150 million a year input from a sales tax that would be created that they could turn around and utilize for their benefit, for their wishes, their wants, and their desires. And there won't be a damn thing that the sportsmen in Colorado or the ag community can do about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
And you know what? It seems like. It doesn't take much on social media to ground it. It's happening in a lot of states, isn't it? Yes. I mean, everywhere. Cody, it is, isn't it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. Not only with, you know, our state, but a lot of western states, right? Like there's a lot of, you know, it's not really a red or blue issue when it comes to wildlife management, but it seems to be more of the blue states that have a lot of, you know, folks that just aren't maybe as engaged in that type of life and how this all works. And they're easy to fool, right? So it's a scary thing because you don't know what you don't know. And that's on us to share that knowledge and explain, you know, like Dan has done so well over the last 10 years about understanding how these things are going to affect wildlife management in our states, what we can do about them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, Dan, I think you mentioned something before we started recording. There's also something coming up with beavers.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, they've got a statewide beaver management plan that is being formulated around, which ironically, beavers are one of the top fur bearers, you know, when it comes to the original expansion of the West and the history. of fur-bearing management. We can't talk about beavers during the fur-bearing management working group that we're on because there'll be a statewide beaver management plan working group that's being formulated that we might or might not have a chance to be able to participate in. But the interesting thing about that, there's supposed to be somewhere around 60 to 80 stakeholders. And I'm talking not stakeholders about harvest. I'm talking about stakeholders of trying to incorporate The ideology of a beaver being a keystone species, which I don't disagree with, but it's not going to change the entire environment in the state of Colorado by itself, like what people have alluded to that it's done in Yellowstone or other wilderness areas in the western United States. Beavers are an intricate part of Colorado's natural resources. However... What they want to do, a lot of these individuals, not everybody, but a lot of these individuals want to turn this state back into some sort of riparian area that beavers are going to solve all the state's climate problems and drought issues. You snicker about that, but they believe that if we can turn around and move that direction, it's going to be of significant benefit to all things. Well, it already is because of the restrictions or prohibitions that we have on beaver harvest because of 1996 Amendment 14. We don't harvest beavers like what we used to. And I'm not saying that we should or shouldn't, but with all realization, I run a nuisance wildlife control business. And there are times when beavers can be relocated. And there's times when you could, but there's no place to put them because there's already beavers there. Or there's places that you could put them, but it's not suitable enough habitat. The way we harvest beavers in the state of Colorado now on the avocational side versus the nuisance or damage side, all that information is being molded into a ball of clay to create a problem when there is none. And if you get 60 or 80 stakeholders in a room together to talk about their particular versions of what beavers can or can't do, I'll just say this. We need to turn around and get rid of 5.9 million people and 84 million visitors in the state of Colorado because beavers can't do what they historically did because we have the interaction. The ecosystem includes almost 6 million people. It's a different landscape than what it was 350 years ago. And what we are doing now is managing an abundant wildlife resource in a very meticulous way with the carnivore and furbearer management side of Colorado Parks and Wildlife. And still, somebody is not happy with the way it's done, so they want to undermine it and circumvent it for their particular liking.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. Dan addresses a lot of these things. How often do you do your podcast?
SPEAKER 02 :
We're doing four, well, we call them four short versions a month and two longs, but it seems like we've got six longs. Six longs, okay. What we try to do, and we're trying to do some stuff that's shorter to where it's a little bit more palatable to the individual to digest in 15 or 20 or 30 minutes. But some of the guests that we have on, you're just some really, really top-notch people, some really good individuals. You know, Martin Launey with Wildlife Services or Jeremiah Wilber with the War Party Movement. And, you know, we had Wilmore Corbett Davis tent on. We've got some really good guests, but it's all circular to wildlife management, even though we try to get into each an individual background. You know, we've had Cody on. We've had Christine Kepin on. People that live and breathe the Western traditional heritage style lifestyle and that are intricate on the agricultural side or the wildlife side as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's Through the Gates. And I guess anywhere you can get your podcast, you can find it.
SPEAKER 02 :
We've got YouTube. If you just can't get enough of seeing us, you can always watch it on YouTube. And if you just want to listen to us and shut it on and off, you can turn it on and do that on about any of the platforms or formats that are available.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, cool. All right. Hey, we talked about this last week. I want to touch on these again. Hey, a couple of great deals coming up. 1st, August 2nd. That is going to be at the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame. This is for the United Houndsmen of Colorado. You can get tickets at the door. You can get tickets online, unitedhoundsmenofcolorado.com. And it'll start at 5, I believe you said?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, 5 p.m., Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame. Okay. yeah fill us in on some of the details yeah yeah it should just be an awesome night you know these banquets they're designed to be family fun right like bring your kids we got stuff set up for the kids we got games there's prizes giveaways raffles auctions and it's not just hunting related right there's going to be something for everybody so uh it's always a fun time and whether you're a hunter or not come show up to not only our event but dan's event uh and uh and support the cause yeah i know you're going to have a live auction any couple of things we can
SPEAKER 09 :
tease the audience with a little bit?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I would love to tease, but we haven't decided what's going to be in the live auction yet or what's just going to be a standalone. But yeah, regardless, there's always cool stuff. You want to come win the gun of your dreams for a $5 raffle ticket? Well, that's a good shot to do it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that'll work. That'll work. And once again, hey, they work on memberships, and that's how they help us, too. All right? Hey, $50 for an annual membership, $1,000 for a life membership. And I think there's one I saw that was like $80 that – Is that an email type newsletter?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so we started something new this year to try to see if it would catch some traction, but like a reoccurring membership, right? So if a member wants to be like, well, I'll buy a membership, but I want to keep contributing, we can do like a monthly deal. So that's been something we're just trying out. Yeah, cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, and then we're going to Florence Park once again, or Pathfinder Park in Florence, I should say. And, boy, this is a great event. Been the last couple of years, Outdoorsman Days, August 8th and 9th, Coloradans Response for Wildlife Management. And a lot of groups in this, a lot of great, I'll just mention a few here, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, Western Hunt Fest. Davis Tent, our good friend Wilmar Court, and Muley Fanatics, SCI, Colorado Shed Company, a lot of great people here. And there's going to be a lot of great speakers, seminars, demos from folks, training seminars, Dan. Fill us in a little bit on that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, some of the stuff that we did last year that took off so well, we've got the bird of prey demonstrations, which is kind of cool because it's outside, but it's undercover. We've got presentations that the United Houndsmen of Colorado will be doing on the utilization of dogs and hunting practices. The Rocky Mountain Big Game recovery guys that are there that typically do blood tracking for Gillespie, a lost or wounded game. And there's about 30 demonstrations and seminars that will happen on two stages over the course of the two days, August 8th and 9th. And some of it will be video-oriented. Some of it's just in person with demonstration. But you were there last year and saw a tremendous amount of, I mean, you're watching this, but there's a demo or seminar going on over there. I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's why I say you've got to come for the two days. I mean, there's just so much going on.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we busted up to the point to where when people want to come, there's something to keep the kids busy at some level if you just want to go sit and listen. And, you know, there'll be bounce houses for the kids and gold panning and stuff and archery shooting and competitions and tomahawk throwing. And, you know, there's vendors and demonstrations all day long, starting at nine o'clock on the morning of the 8th. And then when you go through that evening, when we have the big chuckwagon dinner, tickets for that are $30 a piece. But I say chuckwagon dinner. There were six chuck wagons last year that you could turn around and grab a ticket and go through each one or part of any one of those chuck wagons. These are the authentic things.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, dude, I'm telling you what. I mean, from attire to the pots and pans, utensils. Dude, I mean, you look like you were back in a Gunsmoke series.
SPEAKER 02 :
It was like if you wanted to reincarnate the Chisholm Trail to cattle drives.
SPEAKER 08 :
No doubt.
SPEAKER 02 :
This was it. And that and that same night on Friday, there's a wild game calling contest that Guy DePlancy and his team with Western Hunt Fest are doing. There's cash prizes for that and $1,500 of the cash prizes. Last year we had kids participating and young adults and novices. The interesting thing that we've thrown into that is because on the wild game calling contest, it's the duck or the waterfowl guy against the turkey guy against the predator guy against the elk guy. And that's hard for judges to judge. But when you got elk guys looking at the waterfowl guy going, well, it's kind of hard to turn around because that guy sounded like a flock of geese coming in there. Yeah. You were there for that. Oh, I know. It was awesome. And so doing it a little bit different, a little bit different mix-up. But there's camping on site. For more information for the banquet tickets and stuff, chuckwagon tickets, they can go to ColoradoOutdoorsmansDays.com. And as I always reference, they can still go to SaveTheHuntColorado.com as well because that's a little easier to remember. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we'd love to have people. The banquet on Saturday night typically sells out 425 people. Last year we had 4,600 people that came through the gate, and the carloads are $5 apiece to get in. Spend a couple days there. There's plenty of stuff to do, and if somebody wants to camp on site, they can do that as well for $20 a night. But they can bring their camper down. It's dry camping, so you bring a generator or whatever. But this is a big event, and we turned it into something that people didn't think that we were able to do, but... Last year's efforts culminated with the banquet, and that's what we're going to do again this year. Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
It'll be awesome. That's August 8th and 9th. And, hey, it will be a great time for sure. Go to ColoradoOutdoorsmanStays.com for more information. Tell you what, we've got to hit a quick break. When we come back, if you're into any social media at all and podcasts with hunting and Dan's through the gates, you've been seeing a lot about some land grabs going on. When we come back, we're going to get into that a little bit more with Dan Gates and Cody Lostrom, Cody Lostra with United Houndsmen of Colorado. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. If you're just joining us, Coach Lowe is with us. United Houndsman of Colorado, Dan Gates. Colorado is responsible for wildlife management. And, again, we're going to push Dan's podcast through the gates. Be sure and catch that. A lot of great information and true information that you'll find on Dan's podcast. Once again, that's through the gates. All right, Dan, this whole public land thing going on, man. Again, if you get into a lot of different podcasts and social media posts, man, you don't know who's coming from what and what's going on. So, man, I always like to tell people, hey, I promise you one thing, we're going to do the best to get great experts on our show that will be the truth. So let us know what's happening.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and thanks for that. And while we've engaged in that conversation on the periphery, There's been a plethora of individuals from all around the country, specifically the West, that have engaged at a variety of different levels. And some of that is, you know, I got to say, we appreciate the enthusiasm, kind of what we built off of on Proposition 127 last year. People saw that they could make a difference. And there's a bunch of different platforms and mechanisms out there for people to engage. They need to continually talk to their congressmen. They need to talk to their state legislators on state-type issues. But everything that's been going on with this is a federal deal. And when Senator Lee, out of... the state of Utah came up with these ideas on the reconciliation package. I think there was a lot of opportunity for the sportsman community to get engaged and get informed. The problem was we saw a lot of misinformation or misguidance, or maybe it just happened so quick that somebody didn't, you know, stay up to par with what happened yesterday because they recorded something and said it the day before yesterday. And something changed yesterday to give people a different, which, which happened. Yeah. It does. And so that's one of the reasons why last week we had Ryan Bronson, the Director of Legislative Affairs. with the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, who is intimately involved from the RMEF perspective. But they've got lobbyists at the capital, the federal capital, Washington, D.C. And Ryan did a really good synopsis, not just on behalf of CRWM, but to give us the proper information that goes out. And we're going to try to do that again as this process continually moves through the minutia, the sausage-making process of federal government. But what I want to encourage people to do is pay attention to the current version of everything. Because As much as we're involved at the state level, things change on a moment's notice. And even as you're walking into a committee room, there could be amendments that are put onto a piece of legislation that strikes stuff that you've been arguing for or against. And pretty soon you're talking about it that it's no longer in or it's been modified in some capacity. So I would educate people to say, pay attention to the people that are actually doing the work. not people that are transmitting the information specifically. So organizations like the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, National Wild Turkey Federation, maybe it's the National Wildlife Federation, a variety of different organizations out there that have lobbying representation through the American Wildlife Conservation Partnership, which those individuals are probably the most knowledgeable about this subject matter because they are partners in Washington, D.C., and they have a plethora of individuals from states, regions, and all the way through the country up to the D.C. level to make sure that they're consistently putting out the same consistent message. The reason I mention that is people heard over the time that 1.5 million acres was going to be sold then you saw somebody else kick out 30 million acres and then we saw 300 million acres and then it was 45 million acres then 75 million acres then this was dead then this resurfaced and it came from the house to the senate all of that is not true but a form or a faction of it could have some fact to it all i'm saying is don't get the cart in front of the ass on this stuff make sure that we are working lockstep and getting the message out because there's nothing worse than contacting your state senator when the state senator has nothing to do with this right when it's the federal senator your congressman or woman that is the one that's making the decisions and going to vote on this follow the experts follow the ones that are in the know rmef's a good a good means to be able to do that backcountry hunters and anglers and all the other ones that i said
SPEAKER 09 :
Is there an action item for sportsmen to do right now?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right now, well, depending on what changed over the course of the last week, when this specific version of your episode airs, I would just say continually let your federal legislators, your representatives and congressmen, know that that you are interested in making sure that they're fully aware, do not sell our public lands in any way, shape, or form. Now, there might be a provision in there, something that is of benefit to sportsmen and women and the conservationists of the country, where there might be a land swap or a trade, or maybe there's a sell-off and somebody else turns around and gets something in a replacement. That's not been alluded to in this particular piece of legislation. But the action item is... Always, not just now, always stay in touch with your federal legislator, your state legislators, and your state commissioners to make sure that they're aware that you, as a sportsman and woman, are interested in what decisions they're making on your behalf and that they need to hear from you regularly. Because if they hear from you once and never hear from you again, somebody's going to backdoor something and put it under the carpet and nobody will ever know about it. Contact your state and federal commissioners. and regional legislators as much as what you possibly can and let them know who you are and why you approve or disapprove or whatever it might be. Yep, cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, Cody, we're going to go back to you here a little bit. So, Dan, how's the best way to figure out with him how we can help him and what we want to get the message out?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I think, you know, and we talked about this before, harvesters are part of science-based wildlife management. Without harvest and without data, there's not a game agency on the planet that can decipher any information because there has to be some sort of harvest. If you don't have harvest, why do you need to turn around and know what's there or how much of it's there? The United Houndsmen of Colorado, as are a lot of other hound hunting organizations in the country, are intricate partners of each game management agency. And I'd like Cody to explain some of the stuff that they were doing and have been doing over time on mountain lion management and science gathering.
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Sure. Yeah, I appreciate that. That's a really good topic to bring up because a lot of people don't understand, right? What do hounds contribute to the things they hunt? Why is that an important technique to have around? And if we want to just stick with mountain lions to make it simple for a minute. Nearly everything that we know about mountain lions is because of hounds, right? All their studies have involved hounds. All their studies have involved houndsmen, right? Like, we are the experts on where to find a lion, what they're eating in this area, what they're eating in that area, how they travel the country, all these different things. And those are really, really valuable things. characteristics to have sure if cpw was to have people out on the ground you know that was their only thing is to study lions the entire for their entire careers they would be houndsmen they would be like what like us right so when uh any of your game agencies want to do studies want to figure out you know how many lions are in this area how they're moving what they're eating and even secondary studies on what their effect is on on deer and elk populations on on bighorn sheep populations and all those different type of things um the houndsmen are called in right we know where to find the lions we know how to how to we have the tools to do it um 100 safe too when when an animal is in the tree they can be darted sedated um fitted with a collar if they're tracking them like that even um you know just biopsy darts which don't require the animal to be sedated A small biopsy dart is fired that takes a tissue sample, and they can genetically track these cats as well. And a lot of people don't realize because they don't see mountain lions all the time. It's not like you go to Estes Park and see mountain lions and herds out on the golf course. Right. They're super, super elusive. Right. And so they think we don't know much about them. We don't know how many are out there, this and that. While they are very elusive and they can be very difficult to to learn about with the with the help of houndsmen and the biologists and the program managers in the state. And Colorado especially has one of the most known, I don't know the right word to use for it, but the most well-studied lion populations in the western United States. It's incredible the amount of data that our program manager and CPW have gathered through the help of Houndsmen. And it's just something that you can't, you can't duplicate that. And if you want to go further onto the harvest aspect, as Dan was talking about, all these cats are getting age, they're getting genetic samples taken. You know, they're, they're monitoring the, the, the population like the, the age structure and the population and, So they get all these metrics that come in to their program and helps them understand, you know, what these lions are doing on the landscape, how many are out there, how many were taken, what are they eating, how's the health of the population. But without houndsmen and dogs, you can't have any of that. Sure. I think it's just such a cool part of what we do in wildlife management that we can be partnered with, you know, with a game agency because we're the most invested in the resource, right? Yeah. A common misconception would be like, well, they're killing everything they catch and they just want them all dead. Couldn't be farther from the truth. We love having these animals on the landscape. We do hunt them. We eat them. We treat them just like any deer or elk or any other game you hunt. But the fact that we can be involved with the game agency on a little bit deeper level is super fascinating. There's also other stuff that's been done recently up in Washington where the voters got rid of the use of dogs. They've had big problems with mountain lions since then. They've become habituated to people. You've had more attacks on livestock, pets, and people as well. A guy I know, a fairly decent friend, actually just completed a four-year study up there on hazing. They're hazing these lions with dogs. Um, and I can get into the, a lot deeper on how this, this study went, but, um, they're not killing any of them, right? They're hazing them. They're, they're making them understand that there's a healthy fear. They need to have a people. They need to avoid people, people, sounds, pets, all that stuff. And it was without a doubt, one of the most successful studies on hazing and, and, um, being able to, uh, it proved what we've all known as, as houndsmen for a long time. If these animals have a healthy respect for people, we don't have much problems. um if they lose that we have big problems yeah and so that was that was really cool you know recent finding of of the benefits of using hounds as well not only for um you know for harvest and population management and stuff like that but also conflict um you know uh resolving conflict before it even starts sure man
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I hate a clock. Man, we're out of time. But, man, Dan, thanks, and thanks for setting us up. Appreciate it. And, man, look forward to Outdoorsman Days August 8th and 9th. And also, Cody, appreciate it. And we'll do some more stuff here as we get closer to your banquet as well. But that's August 2nd at the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame. Hey, that's going to be cool in itself. Both of these great family events. You can get your tickets at unitedhoundsmanofcolorado.com or at the door. and also at coloradoutdoorsmansdays.com. And any information you need, hey, get in touch with me here at the show, and we will help you out. So, guys, thank you very much. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate it. Thanks for being with us today for Sports from Colorado. Once again, I hope you have a great weekend. And, folks, hey, let me mention this real quick. Become a member of United Houndsmen of Colorado. It's 50 bucks, all right? And a lot of 50 bucks go a long way, all right? So become a member, and I promise you they're putting your money to good use. So thanks for being with us. We'll talk to you next week.
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Dive deep into the changing world of technology and its impacts on socialization, as we explore the unsettling trend of children turning to AI for companionship. The episode examines both the potential advantages and alarming consequences of AI's growing presence in everyday interactions. Meanwhile, we cover diverse topics from popular perceptions of AI to the nuances of modern entertainment.
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What I'm getting into is this stunk as for someone who's a old-time TV show Superman guy trying to get entertained for a couple hours and wants to see Superman. This movie was pure torture to sit through. Torture. I mean, I'll tell you this. If my name was on the critics, I'd hide it. That's how bad it was. This was two hours of this new Superman. It wasn't Christopher Reeves, but he was okay Superman. Two hours of him getting the crap beat out of him. Who wants to see Superman get beat up for two hours? He's getting beat up by everybody. Plus, you have other superheroes in the movie. I didn't go there to see some guy named Mr. Terrific. I didn't go there to see, you know, the Green Lantern or some lady named Hawk or other. I don't even know who she was. OK, these other superheroes who he calls on. Who are these other superheroes?
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I think that's hysterical. And I think he's right. Who are the other people? And you don't want to see Superman get beat up because it's Superman. He's literally the strongest thing on God's green. Well, not be off of God's green earth and on God's green earth. He's the super strongest from Krypton. Why in the world would he get beat up by anybody? Do they think that makes it more realistic? Because you're talking about a space alien who was orphaned and adopted and wore his blanket, his indestructible blanket that he came to earth in. That was his cape. Why would he be beaten up by anyone? Can I just say, I think the dog in it is stupid. I love dogs. I don't want to see a super dog. You kidding me? Stop it. I don't want to see no super dog. Mr. Terrific. What is that? Shut up. No, you can't have anybody else when you have Superman. It's Superman or it's nobody. I just I don't know. I get it that they're trying to like, I guess, flesh out some franchises. That was a funny review, though. I'm not going to go see it. I'm not going to go see that movie. I don't like superhero movies anyway. I get tired of them. I liked it before there was one out every week. Here's the saddest headline ever. This is so depressing. Kids are turning to AI for friendship. This is a British study. They quoted one kid as saying, I don't have anyone else to talk to. A new UK report reveals children are turning to chat bots, not just for homework help, but for emotional advice because they have nobody else. Some are saying that this is going to give TikTok a run for its money. I think TikTok needs to die, personally. I'm so tired of, I think people obsess over everything. I was reading this piece that was questioning the standards of American beauty and the destruction that social media has wrought. And I agree with it. And I think this is, this is all the chatbots, all this stuff, this facilitation is going to take over TikTok, I think. But there was this report published as a nonprofit called Internet Matters. They surveyed over 1,000 children and 2,000 parents across the UK. 64% of kids are using AI chatbots for everything from schoolwork to practicing tough conversations. Over a third said that talking to the chatbot feels like they're talking to a friend. And remember, these chatbots have no built-in safety checks at all. And they said that 42% of children said they use it to help with schoolwork because they get quick answers. Can I just pause that for a minute? Do you know why people like chatbots for research and getting quick answers? Because the algorithms of the search engines are heinous. Progressive partisanship has pushed us into the arms of AI. It absolutely has. Cain, would you disagree with that? It's absolutely... I think it absolutely has. Think about it. When you... Research. I can't use Google to research anything. Google is one of the most useless things ever right now. It is useless. And it's AI feeds off of that same partisanship. When you ask AI a question, if you're wanting to get an answer, you have to be so specific with your prompt. And I think people are still figuring out the specificity of prompts and what works better and what doesn't. But if you don't put in a few keywords, you're going to get just a bunch of progressive garbage. Google is horrible to use. It is one of the worst things ever. It is a horrible search engine. It's horrible to use for research. It is as unreliable as Wikipedia. And by the way, Wikipedia is so unreliable, it is barred from consideration in a courtroom, just so you know. Wikipedia is disallowed in courtrooms because it doesn't meet their standard, their evidentiary standards. That's how bad Wikipedia is. So all this progressive partisanship has really pushed us into this. So people, instead of, you know, trawling the internet, trying to find one fact-based thing so you can learn more about something, they think, well, if I just ask AI and just have AI, and then I can get it quicker with AI. And depending on how you prompt AI, you can. You From, you know, explain X, Y, Z from an American conservative perspective. Well, if you don't, if you just leave it at that, you're going to get a bunch of cringy, hokey red meat platitudes. You've got to even be more specific and drill down. It is it's it's wild. I don't really use a whole lot. I mean, I have experimented with it. I think that people need to be careful with it when they want to use it for quick answers because there are people that are being busted all over social media for using it really quickly. And remember, AI can't observe the world and learn things by itself. The only way that AI is powerful is through human observation, and that's its weakness. It only observes what we observe. It observes what humans observe. It observes through us and learns through us. And so it's limited in that respect. But I've experimented with it. I've done certain things where I'm like, well, what happened? And compare answers. You've got to be real careful in using it, though. As you know, like a formal response because he does get things wrong, like notoriously. So it gets things wrong. It will. And it depends on what it pulls from. It could pull from a popular a popular page or somebody's social media account where they have it wrong. But it because it can cite it and say, oh, this is this exists on the Internet. So this must be accurate and present it to you as true. So it's not perfect yet. It's not perfect yet. So, I don't know. Do you use it a lot? Have you used AI a lot?
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No, I don't. I used it for that one video where it was baby Dana. But that was just one time.
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Yeah, it was just like imaging.
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And, you know, some chat GPTs used a lot. Grok used a lot. I think AI is... MechaHitler, you mean? Yeah, MechaHitler. I think it's changed now.
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But how sad is it, though, that you have a quarter of kids, they use chatbots for advice. They ask what to wear, how to navigate friendships. So you know the other thing that people have been doing? So women in their late teens and early 20s have been using AI to, they give it a photo of themselves, and then they ask AI, how would you improve my looks? Right. And I read this story. So this is about this piece that I read. I'm going to send this, I'm going to have this as a separate thing for you. Those of you who subscribe over at sub stack, uh, because it's fascinating. Uh, plastic surgeons have said that based on this idealized, like social media has ruined beauty. And they said that now they're starting to see people come in like women in their twenties go in with these like, um, AI generated images that are of themselves, but like they ask AI, what would you improve? And then AI changes and does all this stuff. How sad is this? So kids are lonely. Women are wanting to change their appearance due to AI. Where are we going with this?
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I think it's a toxic brew when you have, there's some value in being a victim, right? So you sort of splint yourself off in whatever category you think you are so you can become this valuable victim. But then that also separates you from connecting with other people. So you're not really connecting with. So now you go to this chatbot thing because it's not judgmental. And, you know, it's like a new thing. And it feels good, I guess, for these kids who aren't connecting.
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AI and COVID have just killed. socialization they really have it's it's so incredibly sad but um i mean i think there's certain things that ai is good for but then stuff like this the human aspect of it i don't know nothing beats meat space But what is it going to take for humans to realize that again? We have more to come, folks, as we wrap up this program. Our partners over at Kel-Tec, a Florida company that makes some very innovative firearms. And if you're unfamiliar with them, you need to go check them out because they have a number of things. The PR-57 chambered in 5.7 is one of them. It's a rotary barrel pistol. It's the lightest 5.7 on the market, 40% lighter than its competition. It's perfect for concealed carry. I mean, it is 40% lighter. It's the smallest 5'7 that you can carry. It's inspired by real-world data and defensive needs. It's different in a number of ways. It's thinner and lighter thanks to its unique top-loading design. It replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips. You have a slimmer carry profile, 20 plus 1 capacity, and a super easy field strip, low recoil for ease of use and accuracy, MSRP only $399, super affordable. Check it out. Learn more at Keltechweapons.com, Innovation Performance. Keltech, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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A Wisconsin nurse has pled no contest to amputating a man's foot without permission. The nurse said that she had hoped to... Oh, wow. Display the foot in her family's taxidermy shop with a sign that says, wear your boots, kids. Oh, my gosh. She pled no contest. It was negligent abuse of a patient. Mary K. Brown, Pierce County. So she has two felony charges against her. Physical abuse of an elder person intentionally causing great bodily harm and mayhem. She was working at a senior living home. And a 62-year-old was being treated after a fall in his home. And he had severe frostbite in his feet. They became necrotic. And reportedly, he was moved to hospice. And she apparently said that it would make the quality of life better for him, the amputation. So she apparently did it herself. I can't even imagine. She didn't get permission and apparently didn't even tell his physician. And he died days after. He died days after the amputation. Oh my gosh. That's... Yeah, it's a horror film. That's... It's like Misery. Ooh. Kathy Bates. An experiment finds that... What? Yogurt? Yogurt can lower the house temperature? What? I don't even know what this means. They said that applying yogurt to the outside windows could lower your temperature. Who's going to put yogurt on their windows? This is a stupid survey. It's like these people got drunk and decided to do crazy stuff. I don't know. German customs officials show images of tarantulas hidden in sponge cake boxes after a smuggling bust. No. No, thank you. Oh my gosh, there's photos. I'm done with this story. If you guys want to know more, I'll put it in your headlines for a sub stack, but I can't. It's spiders. I can't deal with it. Let's be honest. Big Pharma profited off of your fear while silencing your voice. They controlled the narrative, blocked access to real treatments, and then told you what you could and could not take, all to protect their bottom line. Medicines like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and bendazole were all labeled dangerous and dismissed, even though millions found relief and recovery from them. This Independence Day, All Family Pharmacy is standing up for your freedom with their biggest sale of the year. You get buy one, get one free on these critical medications, with a doctor's prescription included, shipped fast, and direct to your door. No corporate gatekeepers, no big pharma middlemen, no bureaucratic roadblocks. At All Family Pharmacy, all medications are made from 100% domestically sourced materials, ensuring the highest quality and safety standards you can trust. Because medical freedom is American freedom. But this offer won't last. It ends July 13th. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for buy one, get one free. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Take back your power and make America healthy again.
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I mentioned this yesterday, and I have a piece over at Substack about this, if you follow me over at Substack. It's a it's called Worldly Gains. And I thought it was a very interesting contrast because we've got word that, you know, the pastor and theologian John MacArthur had passed away. He was just, you know, a giant in this generation. He's like, you know, one of those once in a lifetime kind of pastors. And I was contrasting that with the Chip and Joanna Gaines story. I was digging into this more yesterday and I was really shocked by some of the stuff that I saw. I wrote about it and there's even more. I'm going to have to update it. If you were unfamiliar, they had their own Magnolia Network and they launched this show called Back to the Frontier. And one of them, it featured two dads and then the boys they adopted as part of the cast. And if you've ever watched any interview of Chip and Joanna Gaines, I mean, and I've linked all of them. Well, not all of them, but a bunch of them. They have said, you know, our family puts Christ first. Our work is an extension of our ministry. The way that they have described their faith, they made it very certain that they were faith first and that everything that they do and work is guided by God. And they really rose to massive success with this. And so their fan base is understandably confused because they executive produced, so they selected these people. This wasn't done by a casting director. According to the reporting and the people who are cast, the Gaineses selected them. And so they're... They were criticized prior for not featuring same-sex couples on their house flipping show. And then the press began investigating all of this stuff. Obviously, I'm sure they're surprised to find out that their pastor holds biblical views on marriage. So I don't know why they decided to do a 180. And Franklin Graham responded to it and said he was disappointed, the American Family Association. But Chip Gaines started going off on social media. And I just I was really shocked to see it. He said this. He said, quote, Well, I he goes, I appreciate that. If you admire and appreciate us so much, any chance there's more to this? No one knows. But the quote unquote Christians have certainly come out in full force as if they do not as if they do know, quote, judge not and love one another is not too difficult. I had a major problem with this because, first off, a lot of people go off and say, don't judge as a way to defend against godlessness. And that's just that is such an illiterate interpretation of what Jesus was talking about in his sermon on the mountain, Matthew seven, because he was talking about hypocritical judgment. He wasn't talking about don't use discernment. Godly discernment is absolutely allowed and spoken of positively. In the Bible, this hypocritical judgment, meaning by whatever measure you use against others, that same measure will be applied against you. That is precisely what Jesus was talking about in Matthew 7. He's not disavowing discernment. He's warning against hypocritical judgment. And I was shocked that someone who is mature, I thought mature in their faith, did not know this and misinterpreted this verse as a shield against godly correction. And what they're doing, and this is the crux, they're pitting non-biblical practice against a covenant between a man and a woman and God as not a big deal. Because he said, this isn't a big deal. There's other shows. This isn't just alienating believers that help build their empire. It is diminishing the Christian view of marriage to the fringes. and accommodating a godless worldly view. How does that reconcile with their previous statements where they say they put God first in their work as like an extension of their faith? How does that, how do you reconcile those statements? I mean, if anything, if you want to talk about legitimizing or mainstreaming things, why not legitimize or mainstream the traditional American family? This is just a continuation of the Marxist war against the building block of society because without it, society completely falls apart. I think Chip Gaines's reaction has been harsh to even the most minor good faith, godly correction. He is not grace under fire as he used to be. And apparently one of their the people that they do business with welcomed a man into their their marriage and created a throuple and then talked about raising their kids while the wife was still in the home. And Joanna Gaines commented on it and said, you are so good. That's all over Twitter or X. So what are they fake Christians? Are they just quote unquote cultural Christians? Like we're going to be a little Jesus. And then that's the thing, because they built their whole empire on this. I was absolutely shocked to see Chip Gaines's reaction and his his ungodly responses to some of this. It's not what I expected from them. And it bothers me because we don't have enough of icons like this in society. I want you to compare and contrast Chip Gaines and John MacArthur. John MacArthur never bent any at the pulpit except to Christ. He never backed away and went with the current. He stood strong, even as churches were being pressured to make it be like Buddy Jesus and to get people in the pews and make it more commercial instead of making about saving souls. It is not easy to follow Jesus. Jesus said this. This is the hard road and not everyone can follow it. And that's something that Chip and Joanna Gaines are proving right now.
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We're going to highlight some of the New York stuff as well, because Cuomo's decided he's staying in the mayor's race, even though he lost the Democrat primary. So that means they're going to split whatever. I mean, literally whatever independent run they could have against. Ma'am, Danny, I keep wanting to say ma'am, dammy. They are going to obliterate it because you're going to have Eric Adams and Cuomo facing off against this guy. And I guess they're I can't believe I'm saying this. They're the more moderate. They're the they're the moderates. Good heavens. They're the more moderate people, which is a weird thing to say. And they're facing off. And this is going to dilute that base, that voting block. It's good. That dude's going to win. And New York is just New York is going to go to hell in a handbasket. That's exactly what's going to happen. And then, of course, you have a wall here. He announces that audio soundbite 19. Go ahead and play this.
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Hello, I'm Andrew Cuomo. And unless you've been living under a rock, you probably know that the Democratic primary did not go the way I had hoped. To the 440,000 New Yorkers who voted for me, a sincere thank you. Thank you for believing in me, in my agenda, and in my experience. And I am truly sorry that I let you down. Well, you're a grandparent. But as my grandfather used to say, when you get knocked down, learn the lesson and pick yourself back up and get in the game. And that is what I'm going to do. The fight to save our city isn't over.
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Only 13% of New Yorkers vote. How stiff does he sound, right? He sounds... Yeah, he sounds rough. He sounds stiff. He sounds like... Yeah, it's weird. He's... Hello, I am Andrew Cuomo, and I am announcing my independent run for the New York mayoral race. Comma, yeah. Walks off frame. Oh, wait a minute. He's just... I think that he was really hip-checked hard with that whole scandal, which was rightfully a scandal, right? I don't know. They're going to get this guy. We're never going to be able to go to New York again. Not that I ever really... I mean, they have some good restaurants. I don't do theater, so that doesn't hold... I don't do theater. You guys know this. That doesn't really hold any allure for me. There's nothing... I mean, what to drive by the U.N. building and complain about the exorbitant cost of the land that they have that dog and pony show situated upon. I mean, really, what else? New Yorkers who love New York are very hardcore about loving New York, but everyone else is like, meh. You got a Whataburger? Don't think so. You know, that's kind of, meh. Do you got like a Winn-Dixie or a Bucky? Do you got a Bucky's? Y'all don't got no Bucky's.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's the measurement we should go by.
SPEAKER 02 :
That is the measure. How many Bucky's do you have? And that's, aren't they, they're expanding too. I'm going to get off topic. They're expanding too. So I there. Yeah, that's gone. New York's gone. I mean, I could sit here and spend, you know, however many days to, you know, kind of amp it up and and say, oh, yeah, you know, this is going to be like really, you know, it's going to be a really interesting. Fire, barnstorming, race. It's not. It's not. He's going to win. The other guys, I think some of the polling, what is it? I don't even think Cuomo. Cuomo's like barely in double digits against this guy. Because this guy is dominating social media. And people who are miles wide, inches deep, they love this stuff. They love it. They just like to have whatever they believe affirmed. And they think that this guy does it for them. So that city's going to, how long do you think he's going to stay in office? That's the real question. Like after he has these heinous policies where it's free all the things and all the higher earners leave the city, what do you think is, what's going to, how long is he going to stay in office? It's the million dollar question. How long is he going to stay there? Now, in addition to this, there's a bunch of, Newsom's really in the news a lot. And I got a question. There's like two ways to look at this. Because I get invites to go on different podcasts. And if I think the host is a kook, I don't want to go on it. And then you have people that are in this business that are like, oh, no, you should do it. And it's great for clicks. I can't tell you how many people that I have on my face every day telling me I need to basically whore myself out for clicks. That's like what it is. I'm not kidding. That's the best way to put it. And I'm just like, I just have never been interested in playing that game. Now, I say this because Gavin Newsom has a podcast. I thought he was governor, but whatever. And people are going on his podcast for what purpose, Cain? Do you think that Gavin Newsom is going to be in any way convinced by anybody? Oh, no. No. No. No, he's not going to be convinced.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's a platform to push.
SPEAKER 02 :
Who's using whom when people on the right go on his podcast?
SPEAKER 12 :
He's absolutely using the right.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. So I just I'm trying not to be bratty about it, but I don't know why anybody would want to help mainstream him. Right. Why would anyone want to legit not mainstream? We're using that word incorrectly. Legitimize.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I think it's one thing to claim we're legitimizing him. And another thing, when questions that he isn't asked by the leftist media are finally asked of him in these forums, I think that's what people want to see. They want to see the questions that he normally is not asked and the ones that make him uncomfortable. Because any little uncomfortable question Gavin Newsom gets, you've seen it, the body language, he is not comfortable.
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He's not comfortable at all. Not at all. So I have just I keep seeing him come out. I see Gavin Newsom not in the news for the decisions that he makes as governor, really, except if it's bad. Like I'm sure that you all saw the latest with some of how he's dealing. Let me pull this up because they had the fire right in the Pacific Palisades. They had this insane fire. Well, now guess what? Government's going to be buying up land. It's super cheap right now. With taxpayer dollars, right? Yeah, taxpayer dollars. So apparently the Senate in California passed a bill to allow Los Angeles to buy fire-destroyed lots for low-income housing. They are taking $101 million taxpayer dollars for, quote, multifamily low-income housing developments in communities in L.A. that are devastated by those wildfires. So they are taking taxpayer dollars for, And they're turning around and they're going to buy they're going to buy this land and it's going to be specifically for low income housing. And the funding mechanism is going to allow the this is what the fund is called the resilient rebuilding authorities. It sounds like glorified hall monitors, doesn't it? The resilient rebuilding authorities. The heck is that? So that's the entity that's doing this. Now they have the bills. It hasn't been passed, passed. It's been passed to the Senate. This thing's going to pass. It's going to pass. There's like no opposition to it. And it has a hearing in the state assembly for tomorrow. And it's going to allow the quote unquote resilient rebuilding authorities to issue, receive and administer funds, including but not limited to tax increment financing, federal loans, grants, state loans, grants, philanthropic grants to support recovery. And they're going to use one hundred one million taxpayer dollars to oversee the the construction process, and they're going to purchase lots at fair price for land banking, purchase critical materials in bulk, et cetera, et cetera, facilitate reconstruction of lost rental housing stock. But the thing that a lot of people are scratching their heads over is how in a lot of these, in the Pacific Palisades, up in the hills, so to speak, they're using that money apparently for multifamily low-income housing. Now, That's kind of how, first off. I mean, these areas where these fires happened. I mean, I don't... If you're not that familiar with California, the Pacific Palisades, Kane, that's a pretty bougie area. Don't like one of the Kardashians or whatever live there? I mean, that's, you know, they have the couple of these other areas. Now, the... Eaton Fire, that was on Altadena. That's in California. That's kind of like a middle class area. So, I mean, if you're talking about rebuilding rental properties, etc. there, I mean, I get it. That makes sense. But one of the areas that's marked is the Palisades. And I'm like, that's kind of weird. How does that work? How does the zoning work for that? I mean, the only times that I hear that area come up in the news are when a big construction company Makes the neighbors mad because they build these monstrosity mansions on the edge of a cliff and the neighbors are worried about the cliff like tumbling down on their little mansion, little mansion. I can't even. That's that's usually how that that that area comes up in the news. So how does that work? Oh, and you also did note, and I have this in here too, that the rail project, bless them, they've had that rail project planned for over a decade. It burned part of the area that that was going to happen. Oh, well, I guess you can't do it now. Aw, shucks. It's going to be delayed for another decade, I'm sure.
SPEAKER 12 :
I read that as that it conveniently cleaned it out, but whatever.
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No, it's going to be delayed, Cain, just so you know. It's going to be delayed. There's so many delays, right? There's delays to the delays. Yeah. So we're going to get into all of this stuff. We also have some of the latest on the budget because the rescissions package is apparently now going that we're going to have that fight in the Senate and the House. We have Senator Rand Paul, who's going to be joining us as well. And of course, a belated bestial day, the folly of the dumbest revolution in history. So we are going to get into all of that and more. I said it. We got more on the way as we roll towards headlines and our partner. Our friends over at Relief Factor, if you are an individual that deals with aches and pains, you're just tired of dealing with it, whether it's like your joints or whether it's, you know, you have bad knee, whatever it is, you need to check out the good folks at Relief Factor because they have a drug free supplement that's designed to help manage aches and pains naturally. And my husband's used it. He's had sports injuries. It helps with inflammation, helps him lift weights without worry. It combines a number of powerful ingredients like turmeric, omega-3 fatty acids, resveratrol, and more to target inflammation and support joint health. 100% drug-free and developed to support your body's natural healing process. So don't stay stuck living with pain. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. It's less than a dollar a day. And you can support a veteran-owned company in the process and see the difference for yourself. That's relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF.
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Sad news. It was weird because watching yesterday all of the stuff with Chip and Joanna Gaines, we have more on that, watching that and then hearing the news about John MacArthur, what a study in contrast, right? One of the most, I think, of this era pastors and theologians, John MacArthur passed away at age 86 after a health battle. He led his congregation in California for, I mean, a long time, like over 50 years, the Grace Community Church in the sun valley california uh but uh they said that he faithfully endured until his race was run and he had been hospitalized with his illness he'd been fighting with some pneumonia pneumonia pneumonia he'd been fighting with pneumonia 86 years old but what a i mean what a testimony and his uh i think that his life i think it was said that his life is it was his last sermon which was pretty amazing. So our prayers are with his family. Also, this is an interesting thing. Church hero who thwarted a potential mass casualty incident got a new truck from a Ford dealership. You guys hear about this? He's a deacon who helped prevent this shooting last month because he saw this armed suspect entering the church. He saw that he was up to no good. And since he himself was unarmed, he used his Ford truck And took the, I mean, he hit it. His F-150 ran over the guy and made himself a target in the process. But he saved the congregation. Pretty amazing. So he's getting a new truck. And gaming in the golden years, millions of seniors are playing video games. What? Stick with us. Now, you heard me talk about AI. I think that one of the things that AI can be very good at is in this instance. with finance, with investing. Alio is macro investing for people who want to understand the big picture. It's not just some robo advisor. It is a next generation investing platform, Alio Capital. And you can go and get the app today. It uses Altitude AI. which adapts your portfolio in real time. So I'm using Alio because it, and you can be as hands-on as you want, or you can be hands-off. I mean, it supports both of those types of investors. It doesn't get into meme stocks. It looks at durable, diversified strategies, sound investments over emotional trading. They have a macro dashboard that shows you how your portfolio is positioned in the real economy. They have calendar, their macro calendar that highlights the events that matter for your investments. Net worth tracker, you can track your progress in real time. But this is, if you want to understand the big picture, this is what Alio Capital does. And it is really, really easy to use. And it uses this top-down macro thinking tool. to build your portfolio. There's no jargon, no hype. It's just very straightforward. So if you're ready to take control of your financial future, download the Alio app from the App Store or Google Play. Text my name, or you can text my name, Dana, to 511-511. That's A-L-L-I-O, Alio Capital. It is a great app. I use it. You need to download it today. You can also text Dana to 511-511.
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SPEAKER 02 :
So in France... They've got all their Bastille Day stuff out. I mean, it's, you know, technically it's belated, but they celebrate it for several days. You know, they put their differently ordered red, white, and blue out. And they're all about, they're celebrating Bastille Day, right? The storming of the Bastille. The very important day where they commemorate this from 1789. Very close to our own American Revolution. What's weird is that When they finally did get to the Bastille, right, which they were saying was imprisoning a bunch of innocents. When they got to the Bastille and they stormed through, they only saved like seven. There was only seven people in there. And it was already scheduled to be demolished. There were only seven people in there. They had some counterfeiters. Four of them were in trouble for forging financial documents and things like that. two of the other men were dangerously mentally ill. And apparently their families and associates had them in prison. And then one, I think, was like a count or something, some like dude, like a more noble dude who was found to be a sexual deviant. And he was literally imprisoned at the request of his own family. Those are the people it was. Could you even say that that's for optics? I mean, if you're storing the Bastille, that's all... It really wasn't a big thing, and they're all excited about it. We did it! I mean, it was already scheduled to be demolished. Seven people were inside. That was it. I think the way history makes it sound is that there were tons of people inside of the Bastille and that this was such a... You know, it's a holiday to celebrate. I really think... I think that the French Revolution was an exercise in idiocy and vanity. And it ended not with a freer nation. It ended with a dictator who did more to restore the reforms that they initially set out to champion than they themselves did. And then after Napoleon, they had a resurgence of the monarchy and the monarchy came back. So what ultimately are they celebrating now? Oh, well, it did kick off that. Oh, no, it didn't. America did it better. I mean, I'm not just saying that Alexis de Tocqueville said that as well when he wrote about it. And he was he was fascinated with why it was that the American Revolution actually had a lasting impact as compared to the French Revolution. And there were a number of different things that contributed to it. We've talked about some of this before. But one of the biggest things was that people here, they really wanted to work. We also respected our history, but we also really wanted to work. And we didn't want a class of layabouts like the nobility. We wanted serious, actual representation. It was ours, according to Alexis de Tocqueville, ours was a... more studied, sober approach. I mean, when you compare our founders and the people who led the cause to like the French revolution leaders, to people like Robespierre, who, by the way, they all turned on each other. The Thermidorian reaction. They all turned on each other part of the way through. They all decided to turn into the Spider-Man meme and everybody pointed fingers at each other. And then they decided to start chopping off everybody's heads. Robespierre had his head chopped off. It was like Oprah where everybody gets a car, but instead everyone gets their head chopped off. They love the guillotine. That was their thing. Surprise, it's not on the flag. Guillotine all the things. You know what, Kane, I just realized? Really was the, the guillotine really was the original slap chop.
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That's true.
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Sidebar. I don't have a lot of weaknesses. Okay. Dogs. Cute little dogs. Love dogs. Really any kind of animal that I can pet. And completely over the top sales pitches on television. My grandma used to watch QVC, right? And she would leave it on during the day because she just liked hearing people talk. Because she always had a million grandchildren running around. So she would leave it on during the day, right? And I would be down there in the summers. I'd be staying with my grandparents and I'd be helping them. And I would hear them sell all these things. That's when I first heard, oh my gosh, Cain, what is it? The cleaning thing. And the guy with the beard, he's dead now.
SPEAKER 11 :
OxiClean?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, thank you. OxiClean. I heard about that. I was like, what? Like they made it sound like the most amazing thing ever. And I think I was in my early teens, and I'm listening to some of the stuff on QVC and thinking, I need these items. I mean, I don't even need a sewing machine, but they're really making this sound amazing. You know what I mean? Things like that. Anyway, fast forward. When I first heard the commercial about the Slap Chop, guess who got a Slap Chop? This girl right here got that. I was like that. I also want to slap my vegetables into pieces like who wants to cut them like a dirty, unwashed proletariat. I want to slap, slappity slap all my stuff into pieces. And so I got the slap chop and I really did enjoy it, you know, with probably a little too much. And I think I still have it. I don't really use it as often because now I have like, you know, I graduated to my fancy Japanese knives. And by mine, I mean Chris's because Chris gets the knives and I'll get all the other stuff. But I hear it and I immediately, I'm like, oh my gosh, what an amazing sales pitch. Vince was a great... Yes, yes, he did get in trouble with crack and like hookers and all that later. Yes. That is a real thing. Don't Google it. Just live in the perfect, you know, just live in the perfect history of it. Don't Google it. But... I loved the slap chop. I even got, Cain, I got a slap chop for my mom. I got a slap, I purchased not one, but two slap chops because, yeah, because you get, for the price of one, you get another. Yeah, I was like, what? So I had to do it. And I have no idea what this has to do with the French Revolution, but we wouldn't have these things if America wasn't great. What?
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Makes a great gift.
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Well, I mean, it does. I mean, think about it. You just get all your frustrations out on whatever you're chopping. Bam! It's just amazing. But it's the new modern guillotine. Smaller. Everyone gets their own little guillotine. It's a very French thing. But Tocqueville, when he was analyzing the differences between the French Revolution and the American Revolution, one of the biggest things that he noted was the difference. The best way I can describe it is the difference in DNA. in terms of what animates us as opposed to what animates the French. And this is one of the things that the founders really noted, that animating spirit of liberty, where you're not arranged around something that is tangible and that has a shelf life. It is that animating spirit of liberty that draws people. That is the thing that unites everyone. Instead of circling around something, we're united by this thing. And He also understood like a fair representative republic, which is what our founders really strive to do. I mean, you really start to appreciate and understand the founders and the founding of our republic and why they did what they did when you understand the history of the French Revolution. And I feel like whenever I look back, because it was trending on social media and you can see all these people celebrating and they act like we look at we did it. We invented freedom. We stormed the Bastille. You seven people were released, you know, and they were all criminals, including, you know, one pervert whose family demanded that he was that he'd be in prison because he's so perverted. I mean, those are the people that you release. And then you had a dictator come in and said, knock it off, because they all got mad at each other and start chopping everybody's heads off. So Napoleon had to come in and be like, stop chopping everybody's heads off. And then he started instituting these little bitty republics all around France and then the larger republic in the Republic of France, the nation. It's weird to say or to note that he actually did more than they did for the cause of representation. It's weird to say it because as Americans, we are absolutely allergic to anything dictatorial. we i but some of us are not you know so the folks back in that man danny dude up in new york but the rest of us like i am so anti-authoritarian that if you tell me no on the smallest thing i can't help it it is in my nature to resist it is like if it like for instance with covet because you guys know how such a germaphobe i am well when covet happened and everyone was told to stay inside and wear your face masks i was like no I don't really want to do it. And I would purposely walk into businesses with my mask on. Like I'd have it over my eyes and walk into the door. Or I'd have it over my chin. I did the dumbest things. I will never forget. We had our parents before everything was open. We had our parents. And I took our mothers. As some of the stores were open, they were visiting us. And I took our, I think it was Thanksgiving. And I took our mothers into, my mother-in-law wanted to go into, what is that bougie French store? Keeping with the theme. L'Occitane. I mean, you can just get you some Aveeno, you know, at Walmart. Or if you really want, you can go and get some L'Occitane. Do you know what L'Occitane is, Cain? I do not. It is very bougie lotions and soaps.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 02 :
For the bougie in you. You know, you hear about that dog in me? It's that bougie in me. That's what it is. So I took them in there and they legit, like this very nice shop girl stopped us at the door. And she was like, oh, before you come in, can you go and wash your hands? She wanted us to go to their little L'Occitane sink and wash our hands. Now, I don't do that because I battle eczema. I have mild eczema. So I can't do all that perfumey stuff on my hands. I mean, it was basically like a bottle of perfume in a soap dispenser. And I'm like, yeah, I can't do that. And she's like, I'm not going to go touch everything in your store. And she was so insistent on it. I was just like, oh, blank on this. And I walked out. I was like, I'm going to walk out of the store. And I told my mom and my mother-in-law, I'm like, you guys can go in. I'm like, I'm going to walk outside. I was like, this is stupid. So I did. I walked outside. I've never gone into it again. I've never, I mean, that was the only, I think, time I actually went into it. But I've never had an interest in going in it again. But I just, I was thinking there were people who came in after us that were like, oh, okay. Okay. And I immediately, in my mind, I burned down the store already. But I just immediately was like, I don't even want to do, I'm not even doing that. Like there's just things that I just don't, in our spiritual DNA, we have this resistance to that. And we also have a BS detector. And this is what I think the French don't have, because they I mean, how do you go from we want equality for all to the point where we're going to chop off everyone's heads? And then you have a dictator that comes in and then the monarchy comes back stronger than ever. We have a B.S. detector, whereas they do not. So they were immediately sold on on turning on each other by other attention seekers. And ultimately, that's the thing that made this whole thing fall apart. I mean, it I saw this thing. It said, happy Bastille Day, folks. Maybe it's time for Americans to learn from the French. And there was a picture of a guillotine. It says once upon a time, the French had a real problem with the one percent. They solved it. No, you literally didn't solve it. You chopped everybody's heads off. You made a mockery of your cause and you had to have, you know, a strong man come in there. And I don't say that necessarily as a compliment to come in and clean it up for you. Yeah, we did learn from the French. We learned what not to do from you, right? We learned exactly what not to do from you. And I, well, most of us, I know. Let me rephrase that. Most of us learned, Cain. Most of us learned. But have you heard of the Tocqueville effect? So this explains why I get nervous when things get too good. And there's actual, why are you doing that? There's science behind it. So it's based on Alexis de Tocqueville's observations on the American Revolution as compared to the French Revolution. And they were studying the link between the social equality and revolutions. And the theory is that when things are going well and when you score wins, that's actually a prime point for a revolution. Right. Because it's that whole theory of blood in the water, basically. Oh, you got something. So now you're going to be even more hard-lined than before. This is why I always get, you know... real nervous when things get real nice because that tends to, does kind of tend to seem to go that way, doesn't it? We have a lot more to discuss. We're also going to get into, like I said, the rescissions package. We've got, I just realized we had not one, but we're going to have all the Senate on today. Just might as well. We're going to talk about rescissions. We're going to talk about the budget. 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What I'm getting into is this stunk as for someone who is a old time TV show Superman guy trying to get entertained for a couple hours and wants to see Superman. This movie was pure torture to sit through. Torture. I mean, I'll tell you this. If my name was on the critics, I'd hide it. That's how bad it was. This was two hours of this new Superman. It wasn't Christopher Reeves, but he was okay Superman. Two hours of him getting the crap beat out of him. Who wants to see Superman get beat up for two hours? He's getting beat up by everybody. Plus, you have other superheroes in the movie. I didn't go there to see some guy named Mr. Terrific. I didn't go there to see, you know, the Green Lantern or some lady named Hawk or other. I don't even know who she was. OK, these other superheroes who he calls on. Who are these other superheroes?
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I think that's hysterical. And I think he's right. Who are the other people? And you don't want to see Superman get beat up because it's Superman. He's literally the strongest thing on God's green. Well, not be off of God's green earth and on God's green earth. He's the super strong. He's from Krypton. Why in the world would he get beat up by anybody? Do they think that makes it more realistic? Because you're talking about a space alien who was orphaned and adopted and wore his blanket, his indestructible blanket that he came to earth in. That was his cape. Why would he be beaten up by anyone? Can I just say, I think the dog in it is stupid. I love dogs. I don't want to see a super dog. You kidding me? Stop it. I don't want to see no super dog. Mr. Terrific. What is that? Shut up. No, you can't have anybody else when you have Superman. It's Superman or it's nobody. I just, I don't know. I get it that they're trying to, I guess, flesh out some franchises. That was a funny review, though. No, I'm not going to go see it. I'm not going to go see that movie. I don't like superhero movies anyway. I get tired of them. I liked it before there was one out every week. Stick with us. We've got more in store. Second hour up next. Like-minded folks who make great products. You guys know these have been a longtime sponsor of the show, Super Beats, these folks. They have a new product called Super Boreen. It's all about healthy metabolism and healthy blood sugar support. And you can get it at Sam's Club now for like less than a dollar a day when you go in. I mean, it's that affordable. And you're going to see the difference. It's such a great product. And they have really, really done everything possible to deliver really good concentration without any GI distress with this. They use a unique berberine. It's been clinically studied. It delivers nearly 10 times higher the absorption rate than standard berberine. And it's one easy to swallow capsule a day. You get all of the benefits in one concentrated capsule a day. And they include grapeseed extract for greater tolerability so there's no GI distress. Find both the new Super Bering and the number one best-selling Super Beats hard shoes at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with the Super Beats and expand your routine with Super Bering. Start today and get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
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But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number. I think it's the trend. And I think one thing that Wall Street, a lot of economists, market in general got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to cause a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.
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That's Scott Pesent, who's discussing the inflation and the increase in prices because people have seen that. And that, I mean, I think having these deals, keeping to make these deals is going to help so much with it. But people are, they're still struggling. We, our economy is not, is not all the way, it's not all the way back yet. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. I was looking at some of the prices overall. I mean, it's not going to go away overnight. And we got, yeah, we have Charles Payne is going to be on with us this week to talk about some of this. I think, and I think that percent is, is, I feel like he's done a very good job. I like Scott Bessette. Can you like Scott Bessette? I like him. I feel like he has a. Well, first, I feel like he understands math. I feel like, you know, he gets math. But I also feel like he is sort of he tempers, I think, some of the more aggressive individuals within that orbit in the administration. who I think would play a little bit harder ball in terms of tariffs or who also want to slow the wheels on cutting spending, I think, as well. But I like Scott Besant. And this still, though, is an issue. And it's going to be an issue for some time because I don't think... I mean, whether or not the price increases are related to tariffs, I think... You can debate that with some things. I think that in some instances it doesn't affect anything.
SPEAKER 12 :
It hasn't yet. None of these tariffs have taken effect yet. So it's not even actually a thing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, but people can raise the prices in anticipation of it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, which is different than tariffs affecting prices. And that's the nuance that people aren't talking about.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly. And it's not in every industry. Right. That's the other thing. Certain things people are making plans in anticipation of having of tariffs and they're increasing prices. And then in others, they're not. I mean, it's not so it's not it's not something as simple as saying that it's affecting everything and it's contributing to, you know, price increases across the board. It just simply isn't. But I like Scott Besson. I feel like he's he's like the steady hand that you want on the wheel. Right. We are going over rough terrain. I think he's very good. And he also, when Trump was saying that Jerome Powell needs to leave, when Trump calls for someone to leave, I got to be honest, I don't take it as seriously as I would a Scott Besant saying it. Because Trump goes after like really good Republicans and is like, if you don't get on board with big spending, you need to be primary. So I'm like, eh. You know, he's mad. He's going to, you know. So when he says that someone needs to leave, I feel like he says it kind of a lot. And so I don't put as much stock in it. But when Scott was like, yeah, I think maybe he should leave. And he has been he said this a while. He said that he thinks he should that he thinks that that Jerome Powell should should go. He suggested that he should step down when his when his term is chairs up in May of next year. He goes, traditionally, the Fed chair also steps down as governor. There's been a lot of talk of a shadow Fed chair causing confusion in advance of his or her nomination. And he goes, I can tell you, I think it would be very confusing for the market for a former Fed chair to stay on also. It makes sense. That's all you got to say. You don't need to be like, oh, they got to go there or whatever. That's fine and dandy. But then you have percent that comes out and is like, well, traditionally. So, yes, he needs to leave. Do you see how calming that is? How nice it is. But he says he did confirm. And this is something that Fortune reported this morning that they are. They're already moves underway to replace Powell. And he said it's a formal process. It's already started. He said that. And again, because this term expires in May of next year, he said it's a formal process already started. He said there are a lot of good candidates inside and outside the Federal Reserve. So interesting. Who would it be? I'm curious. And how would it I've never paid attention to. Well, I mean, I've noticed it, but I've never obsessively scrutinized it.
SPEAKER 12 :
You mean who would be Fed chair that's outside of the sphere of government, you mean?
SPEAKER 02 :
Or after Powell. I mean, I don't think that's, can I be honest? I don't think that's something that Americans are like, okay, let's talk about who the, I mean, a lot of people just don't like the Fed.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, you're right. The people that are paying attention see what Powell did when he lowered rates just before the election last year in hopes to give Democrats a bump. Well, the same justification he used to lower rates then, it was a much worse economic climate than we are now. And he's leaning heavily on the tariff,
SPEAKER 02 :
excuse even though we have a trend since tariffs were announced of inflation coming down i think it is very political and i think it's rightfully he's called to leave yes now the who are the other people that are in the running kevin warsh is and i'm saying his name properly because there's an r in it there's an w-a-r-s-h kane Kevin Warsh, a former Fed governor and Wall Street veteran. He apparently has crisis management experience. He's close to the Trump administration. Michelle Bowman, who's the current vice chair of the Fed. Christopher Waller, sitting Fed governor. He's got academic credentials and some policy expertise. So they apparently have like there's no shortage of names. I mean, it's pretty wonky. Gets into the, I mean, is anybody, like you all know these people, right? You guys know them, you obsess. No, nobody knows who these people are. Nobody knows. People, because everything is too damn big. There's too many things. There's too many things to keep track of. My gosh. Too many things. We need it simple. We need government to be made more simple. Instead of bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Now, here's the saddest headline ever. This is so depressing. Kids are turning to AI for friendship. This is a British study. They quoted one kid as saying, I don't have anyone else to talk to. A new UK report reveals children are turning to chat bots, not just for homework help, but for emotional advice because they have nobody else. Some are saying that this is going to give TikTok a run for its money. I think TikTok needs to die personally. I'm so tired of I think people obsess over everything. I was reading this piece that was questioning the standards of American beauty and the destruction that social media has wrought. And I agree with it. And I think this is this is all the chatbots, all the stuff. This facilitation is going to take over TikTok, I think. But there was this report published as a nonprofit called Internet Matters. They surveyed over 1,000 children and 2,000 parents across the UK. 64% of kids are using AI chatbots for everything from schoolwork to practicing tough conversations. Over a third said that talking to the chatbot feels like they're talking to a friend. And remember, these chatbots have no built-in safety checks at all. And they said that 42% of children said they use it to help with schoolwork because they get quick answers. Can I just pause that for a minute? Do you know why people like chatbots for research and getting quick answers? Because the algorithms of the search engines are heinous. Progressive partisanship has pushed us into the arms of AI. It absolutely has. Cain, would you disagree with that? It's absolutely... I think it absolutely has. Think about it. When you... Research. I can't use Google to research anything. Google is one of the most useless things ever right now. It is useless. And it's AI feeds off of that same partisanship. When you ask AI a question, if you're wanting to get an answer, you have to be so specific with your prompt. And I think people are still figuring out the specificity of prompts and what works better and what doesn't. But if you don't put in a few keywords, you're going to get just a bunch of progressive garbage. Google is horrible to use. It is one of the worst things ever. It is a horrible search engine. It's horrible to use for research. It is as unreliable as Wikipedia. And by the way, Wikipedia is so unreliable, it is barred from consideration in a courtroom, just so you know. Wikipedia is disallowed in courtrooms because it doesn't meet their standard, their evidentiary standards. That's how bad Wikipedia is. So all this progressive partisanship has really pushed us into this. So people, instead of, you know, trawling the Internet, trying to find one fact based thing so you can learn more about something. They think, well, if I just ask a I and just have a and then I can get it quicker with a I. And depending on how you prompt a I, you can you can prompt a I. From, you know, explain X, Y, Z from an American conservative perspective. Well, if you don't, if you just leave it at that, you're going to get a bunch of cringy, hokey red meat platitudes. You got to even be more specific and drill down. It is it's it's wild. I don't really use a whole lot. I mean, I have experimented with it. I think that people need to be careful with it when they want to use it for quick answers because there are people that are being busted all over social media for using it really quickly. And remember, AI can't observe the world and learn things by itself. The only way that AI is powerful is through human observation, and that's its weakness. It only observes what we observe. It observes what humans observe. It observes through us and learns through us. And so it's limited in that respect. But I've experimented with it. I've done certain things where I'm like, well, what happened? And compare answers. You've got to be real careful in using it, though. As you know, like a formal response, because he does get things wrong, like notoriously. So it gets things wrong. It will it and it depends on what it pulls from, it could pull from a popular, a popular page or somebody's social media account where they have it wrong, but it because it can cite it and say, Oh, this is this exists on the internet. So this must be accurate and present it to you as true. So it's not perfect yet. It's not perfect yet. So, I don't know. Do you use it a lot? Have you used AI a lot?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I don't. I used it for that one video where it was baby Dana. But that was just one time.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it was just like imaging.
SPEAKER 12 :
And, you know, some chat GPTs used a lot. Grok used a lot. I think AI... Mecca Hitler, you mean? Yeah, Mecca Hitler. I think it's changed now.
SPEAKER 02 :
But how sad is it, though, that you have a quarter of kids, they use chatbots for advice. They ask what to wear, how to navigate friendships. So, you know, the other thing that people have been doing. So women in their late teens and early 20s have been using AI to they like put they give it a photo of themselves and then they ask AI, how would you improve my looks? And I read this story. So this is about this piece that I read. I'm going to send this, I'm going to have this as a separate thing for you. Those of you who subscribe over at sub stack, uh, because it's fascinating. Uh, plastic surgeons have said that based on this idealized, like social media has ruined beauty. And they said that now they're starting to see people come in like women in their twenties go in with these like, um, AI generated images that are of themselves, but like they ask AI, what would you improve? And then AI changes and does all this stuff. How sad is this? So kids are lonely. Women are wanting to change their appearance due to AI. Where are we going with this?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think it's a toxic brew when you have, there's some value in being a victim, right? So you sort of splint yourself off in whatever category you think you are so you can become this valuable victim. But then that also separates you from connecting with other people. So you're not really connecting with. So now you go to this chatbot thing because it's not judgmental and, you know, it's like a new thing. And it feels good, I guess, for these kids who aren't connecting.
SPEAKER 02 :
AI and COVID have just killed. socialization they really have it's it's so incredibly sad but um i mean i think there's certain things that ai is good for but then stuff like this the human aspect of it i don't know nothing beats meat space but what is it going to take for humans to realize that again I don't know. We've got a lot more on the way. I know we have Senator Eric Schmidt coming up on rescission specifically, and we're going to be talking with Rand Paul. So we inadvertently, we have two senators today on very different subjects, but it should be very interesting as we move our partners that will bring you the program. It's our friends over at Patriot Mobile. The only Christian conservative cell phone service that is in existence. They want to save you money. Patriot Mobile is like minded. And I just got to tell you, I think it's so incredibly important to make sure that your money is being spent. You know, according to your values, right? Like you need you want to work with like minded companies. And that used to not be a big thing for me. But then over the past like 10 years, when you look at these, because everybody has a political action committee, when you go and look and see like where these cell phone services are donating money, I one of the reasons I left my cell phone service over a decade ago. and switch to Patriot Mobile is because the PAC for mine was donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to gun control. Like, I cannot do this. I'm literally funding the thing that I vote against at the ballot box. Patriot Mobile makes it so easy to switch. They have a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. You can keep your number, keep your phone, upgrade. It is so easy. My mom did it in like 10 minutes, I think. Like switched her whole thing up to Patreon mobile in like less than 10 minutes. It's that easy. And if my mom can do it, you can do it. But they also have cutting edge technology. It's super easy. No store visits, no hassles. You can even add a second line to the same phone. And they have the best nationwide coverage on all three networks. So you're connected wherever it is that you go. They have tailor made plans for you and you can get a free month of service using promo code Dana. So visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana Oracle 972 Patriot and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom every time you call or text. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana 972 Patriot.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 02 :
where? Okay. Here's the headline. Oh, horrible. Man dies after falling into burrito factory meat grinder. Okay. Number one, there's a burrito factory. Number two, what kind of meat? And number three, I don't eat this, right? I don't think I do. It's a, he fell into a meat grinder at Vernon food processing at facility Sunday night, 19 year old, uh, Tina's burritos. He fell into the meat grinder. They said they're describing it as an industrial accident. OSHA was out there. Vernon is five miles south of downtown L.A. So he was in a it's I guess it's called Tina's Burritos. That's where he. Oh, my gosh. I mean, you know, it's a gruesome way to go. But if there's other gruesome way, the meat grinder. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Throw it away.
SPEAKER 02 :
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of the second hour, and you can listen coast to coast in one of our hundreds of affiliates. And check out the stream, Channel 347, DirecTV, also on X, Rumble, where the chat is. So one of the things that we have learned, especially about this auto-pin stuff, is so many of these— signatures from former President Biden. It was done by an auto pen. I mean, thousands of them. We're talking about thousands of them. This New York Times piece, can't believe I'm citing them, but give credit to where it's due, was stating that his surrogates were trying to excuse it by saying, oh, well, during these meetings, he'd orally say, yes, he'd say that this is the process. We're going to go ahead. We'll either issue a commutation. We'll grant a pardon. And then his secretary, who managed the auto pen, would note it Without any other record for taxpayers or for members of Congress. And then that was the the procedure that they used for this. So how do you how do you fact check it? It's one of the most bizarre things ever. And it brings up the question as to how many of these were legitimate. The only one that he actually signed was that of Hunter Biden. You know who else has had an auto pen? It was Anthony Fauci. Fauci's. pardon, had an auto pin. And this is something that Senator Rand Paul brought up in a tweet. He retweeted it and just simply said, I'm going to reissue my criminal referral of Anthony Fauci to Trump's DOJ. Senator Rand Paul of the great state of Kentucky joins us now via video. Senator Paul, always a pleasure to have you. Tell us about this, because this is not the standard operating procedure for use of an auto pin to just mention it in a meeting and then the secretary manages it.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, and for all we know, they could have been asking if he wanted Jell-O for dinner. You know, I mean, the thing is, is we have no idea what he said or when he said it. Now we have this assistant named Jeff Zients, and it's like, well, gosh, I guess the president was this guy named Jeff Zients. And it's like, really? No, and these are pardons that are also preemptive for any crime. They don't even specify a crime, and they're preemptive for a period of time, like Hunter Biden. So, no, it's a crazy notion, and we've compiled the evidence for him committing a felony and lying to Congress. We submitted it several times to the Biden administration, at least twice, without results. We've submitted it before to the Trump DOJ, but now we're submitting it again. because I think it would be a good test case too. The only way you can tell whether or not these auto-pinned pardons are valid would be to go to court and then the people have to testify and they ought to say under oath who gave them permission to do it and the question is will they say under oath President Biden told him to do it and directed this when maybe he didn't. So I think we do need to get this under oath and the Fauci case would be a perfect example to get it started.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think I completely agree with that. And it really comes down to, as you were mentioning, you touched on this consent. I mean, because if you don't have consent for this, then you don't have a pardon. You don't have clemency. You don't have any of this.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so there's a lot of questions this raises. But I can remember the first time the auto pen came up on legislation. It was during President Obama's term. And I don't think it was Obamacare, but there was a big bill that passed, and he was on a plane to India. And, you know, if you don't sign a bill physically within a certain period of days, it's called a pocket veto. It has to be affirmed. And it wasn't going to be affirmed in time. It would have been a pocket veto. And he just announced he was doing it by auto pen. But he did agree to sign it in person when he came back, at least. So they acknowledge that there were problems with an auto pen and that the problems with ultimately be cured by the president signing the bill. But in this case, we have pardons that were never signed, no documentation other than the words that we're getting from assistants. And really, the pardon power didn't go to an assistant to an assistant to the president. The pardon power goes to the president.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a great point. We're talking with Senator Rand Paul. And you have, have you reissued it officially? Have you sent it back to the DOJ, this criminal referral voucher? Yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
We've sent it to DOJ and we're hoping that this GOJ will be more open to doing something on this. We think there is an investigation going on still of Anthony Fauci within either DOJ or FBI. We want that to continue, but at some point in time, I think there should be an indictment and a challenge of whether or not this pardon is valid or not.
SPEAKER 02 :
I completely agree with that. And his his General Milley, there's a number. It's very interesting to me that only Hunter Biden was the one that got the actual signature and all of the other thousands of them are identical. One of the other things that you had issued was this. You have you tweeted out the report on Secret Service and the failures that were a year ago now. I am I think I can speak for a lot of people. I'm really shocked as to how little we still know. I feel like in any other circumstance, we would know not just everything about, you know, this this attempted killer involved, but we would know exactly why is it that regular average everyday people were seeing holes in security that Secret Service trained to do this should have noticed the moment they were boots on the ground in Butler. I mean, to not have the rooftop secured, the water tower secured. tree lines. I mean, I'm a civilian and I'm looking at the lay of the land thinking I can't believe there's all these gaps. What is the most shocking thing you found, Senator?
SPEAKER 18 :
The errors were inexcusable and the errors were multiple. It was a cascade of failures that led to this. Probably the most worrisome is that for six months, the Trump team and the Trump security team, Secret Service, advocated for having snipers or counter snipers there. The counter snipers ultimately did take out the shooter this time. As the shooter popped up to shoot again, he would have certainly killed the president and other people. uh they took him out at that time this was the first rally that counter snipers were granted they'd been denied time and time again and as you know president trump had these enormous rallies likely unprecedented in the history of the country at least in the modern history of the country we've not seen anything like it and he needed those counter snipers and they were denied time after time but then they lied about its frequent services oh we never denied any assets to him that was a lie But then as we investigated and we asked people who was in charge, no one was in charge. One female agent said she wasn't in charge. Another woman's in charge. That woman said, no, this man was in charge. And he went around in a circle with everybody pointing a finger and nobody's saying they're in charge. Ultimately, when there was a walkthrough, we said, who's in charge for that building? Who was supposed to make sure that that building with a clear line of sight had one of our people on it? Nobody would admit to it. They couldn't get their own drone up. Their technology didn't work to put their own drone up for surveillance. But then the worst of it is, common sense should have stopped the president from being on the stage. 45 minutes before he took the stage, they see this suspicious person, large backpack, and a range finder. Now, that alone is not enough, obviously, to use violence against this person, but it's enough to look for him, and if you can't find him, it's enough to stop the procedure. That would be common sense. But even as you get closer, with about three minutes to go, people are pointing at the roof, saying, man on a roof, man on a roof. No one sees a weapon yet, but obviously that's enough to remove the president too. You have three minutes is a long time in a situation like this. Nobody takes him off. Finally, someone yells man on a roof with a gun. That is relayed to the main tent where the security is. You've got 45 seconds. And he doesn't tell anything. And he was never even fired or even suspended. The guy that was in charge of the security tent who should have immediately radioed the people around the president on the on the dais, the stage. He should have immediately. There were there were so many chances to remove him. And it probably would have saved, you know, if the president weren't there, he probably wasn't going to shoot. You know, the bystander, the Trump supporter who died that day might have survived as well. So it's just a tragedy. But to my mind, they didn't fire anybody. So one of these people could be in charge of the next rally somewhere.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, my gosh, that's a terrifying thought. That's terrifying, because from what I understand, I mean, just a temporary suspension and a wrist slap and that's pretty much it. I don't even think there's been any reports of top down reevaluation of their protocol, even for future events. I mean, we what our assurances are given to taxpayers.
SPEAKER 18 :
Even the suspensions, they wouldn't tell us anybody was getting suspended. We agreed that we wouldn't print the names because we thought it was unfair to print their names because often people try to do the right thing and they messed up, but I don't think we have to vilify them in the press. So we agreed not to use the names, but they still wouldn't give it to us. Some of the suspensions only happened two weeks ago, I sent a subpoena to them and said, if you will not tell us what you did to punish the agents that messed up, I'm going to subpoena it. That's when they decided to actually punish a couple of the agents with a two-week unpaid suspension. But the person in charge of security in the tent that day was allowed to retire with no punishment.
SPEAKER 02 :
Two weeks, two weeks, and this is a year later that this happens. This is absolutely stunning to me because when you have negligence, Senator, this bad, people who are not prone to conspiracy theories, regular average everyday people see this and they ask, was this on purpose or are they just so negligent and everyone knew that they were negligent that it was allowed to happen, which also seems malicious. I mean, there's no way to slice it to where it looks good or redeemable.
SPEAKER 18 :
My conclusion is incompetence and just not good at their job. And I think some people were promoted for reasons other than their skill. And I think that's always a mistake in a very sensitive job like this. It's sort of like my wife responds and says, you know, somebody my size, I'm not very tall, shouldn't protect the president who's 6'3". So you really, you know, nothing against women protecting him.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 18 :
But if I... Every woman is not big enough to block a shot. And that's it's a sad part of what you say someone's job is. But that's what their job is. And they are protected. Hopefully they block the shot with, you know, an armored vest or something. But really, the people around someone need to be their size or bigger.
SPEAKER 02 :
I completely agree. Yeah. If you can't pick up your principal and you can't shield your principal, you shouldn't be protecting your principal. And if and if you're there anyway and you're not able to see threats or gaps in security, that's doubly bad. I think that that's completely correct. What is there anything in place? Because you were saying that now, I mean, they haven't even held anybody accountable till a year later to improve this or to like message to the public that, yes, we are improving this. We have reevaluated our security. This is never going to happen again.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, they got more money. That doesn't mean anything. So when someone fails in government, that's usually what we do. We either promote them or give them a pay raise or give them more money. So they got a bill. The big, beautiful bill gave them another billion dollars. I don't think this was ever money. This was lack of oversight, lack of having someone in charge, lack of responsibility. Really, like you say, you're not a security expert and neither am I, but I could walk around at 3 o'clock two hours before this and say, okay, what are the different places where a shooter could be, like a roof? Are all of them covered? Because half the people were saying, oh, no, we told the local police to go up there. The local police were saying, no, no, we told the Secret Service. But really the buck stopped with who's ever in charge. That person has to walk around on a final check, and sometimes mistakes are made, but you point out the mistakes and you fix it, and no one ever did that. And there was a lot of really people more concerned with covering their reputation and making sure they weren't punished. than there was getting to the truth on this. I do believe we got to the truth. There are some reforms. They are putting someone, there's a name of someone in charge now at the rallies or at the protective detail. There's more a direct line of, you report to this person, the buck stops with this person. which is, it's a difficult job, but there has to be one person that the buck stops with. The communications was a disaster. They chose not to use the walkie-talkies they could have gotten from the local police. They choose to use cell phones. But you know, if you've ever been in a sporting event and tried to use your cell phone, guess what? There are a lot of other cell phones you sometimes can't get a signal. So a cell phone for your security is not a good thing. but they they also should have had an immediate like i would think that the one thing that saves a life is being able to say take the president off the stage and it is announced to everybody every person hears it simultaneously instead of well maybe we might want to take you know you have to act decisively you have to say off the stage now no one ever did that nor do i think they were really prepared for something like that and you could do it and be wrong let's say this guy turned out not to have a gun in his backpack he turned out not to be a shooter then it's an inconvenience. The rally gets delayed 20 minutes. They arrest him for questioning or stop him for questioning, but they never found him. But it was like two or three policemen saw him. And policemen have good instincts. Local policemen have been doing this for a while. They just have good instincts for saying there's something wrong about this kid. Big backpack, range finder. And then, my goodness, half two of the crowd are yelling man on a roof. And that still was, I think, maybe 90 seconds left until the shooting happened. There was still time to get him off the stage.
SPEAKER 02 :
It is one of the most frustrating things to watch, those videos where people are desperately trying to get the attention of of Secret Service. And you're right. Local law enforcement, they reacted. Secret Service, I hate to say it, they were scratching their heads. And it's all visible in the video. Everybody can see it in the video. Senator Rand Paul, his book, The Great COVID Cover-Up. We are going to be watching to see what happens with this criminal referral. Senator, you're one of our favorite people in Congress, and we appreciate you standing strong, especially on spending. Really quickly, rescissions package. Your thoughts on this? Because you mentioned pocket veto. I know they're trying to do some of these pocket rescissions. You think that's going to be successful?
SPEAKER 18 :
We're going to vote today. The House barely passed it. It was $9 billion. Now I'm voting for it, but you have to realize $9 billion is a rounding error. It's a tiny, tiny little bit. The deficit this year is going to be about $2 trillion. So $9 billion is really a very small number in comparison to $2 trillion. It's not going to fix the deficit, but it has to be done. It's a start. And my point is, if the Senate cannot pass $9 billion, most of it's welfare to foreign countries. If we can't cut welfare to foreign countries, how are we ever going to get started on looking at our own entitlement problems? So we have to pass this. We have to get on it. And right now it hangs in the balance. We've got somewhere between three and five people who are going wobbly on us and we're not sure if we can get on the bill. We're going to find out later today, I think.
SPEAKER 02 :
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Stop. Here's a headline. Oh, and there's footage. Of course, there is. Of course, Marion County, Florida. A pantsless man shoots a flare gun and hurls money at a deputy on the highway. Marion County, Florida. So they did a welfare check on this guy who's walking down Highway 19 during early morning hours. And then he apparently fired a flare gun at a deputy's patrol car. This was like four in the morning that this was happening. It was a routine check, but then it went chaotic because they were concerned. I mean, as any police officer would be. I mean, for crying out loud, you see a guy who's in the middle of the road at night, like 4 a.m., walking without pants. And then when the cop pulls over to help, because clearly something's wrong, the guy turns around and fires a flare gun at the car. Okay. The deputy said that the individual, his last, let's see, what's his name? Jacob Caldwell was acting erratically. He had his pants off through money at the deputy, wouldn't comply with orders. He was taken into custody. Oh, he's like a repeated convicted felon. So, yeah, that's. And tomorrow I'll tell you about the bungling beach thief who claimed to be a federal agent and got his car stuck in the sandwall trying to get away. We have Eric Schmidt, Senator Schmidt coming up as well. Stick with us.
SPEAKER 23 :
on the DOJ and FBI review, the findings of that review. The attorney general briefed you on that?
SPEAKER 17 :
On what?
SPEAKER 23 :
On the DOJ and FBI review. On what?
SPEAKER 17 :
On what subject?
SPEAKER 23 :
On Epstein, on Epstein, of the review of the files. Attorney General Panfani.
SPEAKER 17 :
A very, very quick briefing.
SPEAKER 23 :
Did she tell you, what did she tell you about the review? And specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the file?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, no, she's given us... Just a very quick briefing. And in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen. And I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey. They were made up by Obama. They were made up by the Biden, you know, and we went through years of that. with the russia russia russia hoax with all of the different things that we had to go through we've gone through years of it but she's handled it very well and it's going to be up to her whatever she thinks is credible she should release you on texas on texas interesting
SPEAKER 02 :
So whatever he thinks, because it's weird because his daughter-in-law was out there saying, oh yeah, there's some files and we're going to release some stuff. There's more to come. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lashley with you. We're at the top of this third hour. That was just 15 minutes ago. POTUS, who was remarking on it. So he's backing Bondi up. And I got to say, I'm critical of Pam Bondi. I don't think that this is at her direction to say that These, oh, well, they know these files aren't here. I feel like all of these people campaigned on this and then vied for these. highly coveted administration jobs for which one must be appointed by POTUS. And then when they got there, I think that they they think it's either two things. They realize that, oh, my gosh, we've got to keep everything under lock and key because so many people are implicated or it was all smoke and mirrors designed to agitate the base when POTUS wasn't in office. I don't know. I mean, we've been talking about this stuff enough.
SPEAKER 12 :
He kind of points to the latter in his comment when he talks about Comey and Obama making all this stuff up.
SPEAKER 02 :
If he was in there, they would have... Here, let me lay it out like this. And this is just me speculating and exploring, not speculating even, exploring the topic out loud. I don't think, and I've said this before, I don't think that he is... implicated in any of this at all, because if he was there to come out with it somehow, number one, they would have literally sacrificed one of their own if one of their own was also implicated just to take him out. And if you don't think that they would have done that, I want you to look at how they ran their last presidential election or their last party's nominee, Biden and Harris. They will switch people out. They will sacrifice people. They don't care. So I think that it doesn't matter how many people would have had to fall on the sword if they could have gotten him. Right. So that's number one. But I don't think that he's implicated. I don't. I mean, nobody really knows. We were told the whole reason that people are even reacting to all of this is because all of these elected officials essentially assured us that this stuff existed. We didn't make this up. We didn't sit around and pull stuff out of the ether and go, oh, my gosh. Well, let's see. Was you know, is there is there a client list? Do we have we didn't do that. All of these elected officials were doing this. And I noticed that they say files and then client list. They're very separate things. Very separate things. Now, there's Jelaine Maxwell. She was saying that there was a client list. Now, she could be saying anything just to get out of jail. I don't know. But she was trying to insist that there was some kind of a client list. And then there's the story going around that, oh, my gosh, no one's going to let her testify or no one's going to let her go before Congress and talk about it. I don't know if I believe that. I just don't know why people are saying get over it and move on. How do you tell people that I've seen people say this now on in different venues after I watch them in different venues literally like go on stage and while wind up the crowd by talking about the client list and how there is a need to go after every single one of these people. So you can see how people are very confused by this, right? And I think that Jelaine Maxwell had said, yes, she's she's ready to reveal the truth. She offered to testify before Congress. And there's questions as to, you know, whether or not that's going to happen. I think Trump remarked on it as well. But he was saying that, you know, they've been talking about him forever. There's, you know, there's nothing here. One of the sources said she was never offered any kind of plea deal. She'd be more than happy to sit before Congress, tell her story. I think her story was already told in trial, right? Like, what else do you have to tell? It's like, what is it, that Ginger and his can't-cook-a-damn-thing-or-cut-a-vegetable zealous briefcase wife? Mary? megan me me megan and the uh whining ginger uh it's like them constantly going i just we need to tell our story after they did a series and multiple interviews and a book and all this stuff it's like no everybody knows there's nothing new here i don't i think everybody knows her story she she could have she could have thrown out a client list to save her backside during a trial and she didn't so i don't know why this is right am i just being too like you know yeah i
SPEAKER 12 :
The way I look at it is these files, I'm sure, exist.
SPEAKER 02 :
Wait a minute. Files are a client list. Do you think there's a client list?
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, I don't know if there's a client list or not. I believe that there should be.
SPEAKER 02 :
I mean, they had to keep track of something somehow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, there should be some sort of list of some sort of people. And I mean, we saw the manifest from the flights, right? We saw that. So we know there's going to be names involved. So there's probably some sort of list. I think this is either, I'm hoping it's a ruse by this administration to kind of use it as distraction. And maybe there is some information there that they may be holding back for midterms. Oh, no. You don't think so?
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't think so, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
You don't think so?
SPEAKER 02 :
No.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Well, you've been impressed with every October surprise that's ever been?
SPEAKER 02 :
Have I been impressed with it? Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's my point. I mean, it's about how effective it is just before an election. And I don't know.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think the longer they wait, if anything comes out of it, it's going to be suspicious because people waited so long. Just get it out there now.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's why I think Laura Trump said there will be files that will be released. Now, she used the word files.
SPEAKER 02 :
Files, not lists.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that's why it was arbitrary as to when they'll be released. So this is the reason why I'm thinking that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hmm. Very interesting. It is important. It's important to voters. It's incredibly important to voters. And I don't think that telling them to get over it is maybe the best messaging.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right. It's not exactly that. Laura Trump did say there are more files to be out. But you're right. Essentially, they did say get over the fact that there's no client list when we there's a damn client list.
SPEAKER 02 :
There has to. But I mean, if you are a sketchy pervert and you wanted to mask what you're doing, you would. Weave it in with like legitimate business to hide it and muddy the waters. You would. So I don't know. I've heard the excuse that, oh, well, there's investigations on that. There's this that, you know, they're trying to that. I just think it's all whatever. I don't believe a damn word of it. Either release it or stop or face the wrath of people. Because if there's nothing there, either way, some people deserve to get lit up because you can't play people like this. You can't string them along like this. So and voters are fickle. There is a limit. I saw this thing where I think I shared it in Slack. Idolizing politicians is like believing the stripper really likes you. So there is a cap. Right. There's a cap on how far voters are willing to go. I mentioned this yesterday and I have a piece over at Substack about this. If you follow me over at Substack, it's a it's called worldly gains. And I thought it was a very interesting contrast because we've got word that. You know, the pastor and theologian John MacArthur had passed away. He was just, you know, a giant in this generation. He's like, you know, one of those once in a lifetime kind of pastors. And I was contrasting that with the Chip and Joanna Gaines story. I was digging into this more yesterday, and I was really shocked by some of the stuff that I saw. I wrote about it and there's even more. I'm going to have to update it. If you were unfamiliar, they had their own Magnolia Network and they launched this show called Back to the Frontier. And one of them, it featured two dads and then the boys they adopted as part of the cast. And if you've ever watched any interview of Chip and Joanna Gaines, I mean, and I've linked all of them. Well, not all of them, but a bunch of them. They have said, you know, our family puts Christ first. Our work is an extension of our ministry. The way that they have described their faith, they made it very certain that they were faith first and that everything that they do and work is guided by God. And they really rose to massive success with this. And so their fan base is understandably confused because they executive produced, so they selected these people. This wasn't done by a casting director. According to the reporting and the people who are cast, the Gaineses selected them. And so they're... They were criticized prior for not featuring same-sex couples on their house flipping show. And then the press began investigating all of this stuff. Obviously, I'm sure they're surprised to find out that their pastor holds biblical views on marriage. So I don't know why they decided to do a 180. And Franklin Graham responded to it and said he was disappointed, the American Family Association. But Chip Gaines started going off on social media. And I just I was really shocked to see it. He said this. He said, quote, Well, I he goes, I appreciate that. If you admire and appreciate us so much, any chance there's more to this? No one knows. But the quote unquote Christians have certainly come out in full force as if they do not as if they do know, quote, judge not and love one another is not too difficult. I had a major problem with this because, first off, a lot of people go off and say, don't judge as a way to defend against godlessness. And that's just that is such an illiterate interpretation of what Jesus was talking about in his sermon on the mountain, Matthew seven, because he was talking about hypocritical judgment. He wasn't talking about don't use discernment. Godly discernment is absolutely allowed and spoken of positively. In the Bible, this hypocritical judgment, meaning by whatever measure you use against others, that same measure will be applied against you. That is precisely what Jesus was talking about in Matthew 7. He's not disavowing discernment. He's warning against hypocritical judgment. And I was shocked that someone who is mature, I thought mature in their faith, did not know this and misinterpreted this verse as a shield against godly correction. And what they're doing, and this is the crux, they're pitting non-biblical practice against a covenant between a man and a woman and God as not a big deal. Because he said, this isn't a big deal. There's other shows. This isn't just alienating believers that help build their empire. It is diminishing the Christian view of marriage to the fringes. And accommodating a godless worldly view. How does that reconcile with their previous statements where they say they put God first in their work as like an extension of their faith? How do you reconcile those statements? I mean, if anything, if you want to talk about legitimizing or mainstreaming things, why not? legitimize or mainstream the traditional American family. This is just a continuation of the Marxist war against the building block of society, because without it, society completely falls apart. I think Chip Gaines's reaction has been harsh to even the most minor good faith, godly correction. He is not grace under fire as he used to be. And apparently, one of the people that they do business with welcomed a man into their marriage, created a throuple, and then talked about raising their kids while the wife was still in the home. And Joanna Gaines commented on it and said, you are so good. That's all over Twitter or X. So are they fake Christians? Are they just quote unquote cultural Christians? Like we're going to be a little Jesus? And then that's the thing because they built their whole empire on this. I was absolutely shocked to see Chip Gaines's reaction and his ungodly responses to some of this. It's not what I expected from them. And it bothers me because we don't have enough of icons like this in society. I want you to compare and contrast Chip Gaines and John MacArthur. John MacArthur never bent a knee at the He stood strong even as churches were being pressured to make it be like Buddy Jesus and to get people in the pews and make it more commercial instead of making it about saving souls. It is not easy to follow Jesus. Jesus said this. This is the hard road and not everyone can follow it. And that's something that Chip and Joanna Gaines are proving right now.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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A Wisconsin nurse has pled no contest to amputating a man's foot without permission. The nurse said that she had hoped Oh, wow. Display the foot in her family's taxidermy shop with a sign that says, wear your boots, kids. Oh, my gosh. She pled no contest. It was negligent abuse of a patient. Mary K. Brown, Pierce County. So she has two felony charges against her physical abuse of an elder person intentionally causing great bodily harm and mayhem. She was working at a senior living home. And a 62-year-old was being treated after a fall in his home. And he had severe frostbite in his feet. They became necrotic. And reportedly, he was moved to hospice. And she apparently said that it would make the quality of life better for him, the amputation. So she apparently did it herself. I can't even imagine. She didn't get permission and apparently didn't even tell his physician. And he died days after he died days after the amputation. Oh, my gosh. That's that's a horror film. That's it's like misery. Oh, Kathy Bates. An experiment finds that what yogurt yogurt can lower the house temperature. What? I don't even know what this means. They said that applying yogurt to the outside windows could lower your temperature. Who's going to put yogurt on their windows? This is a stupid survey. It's like these people got drunk and decided to do crazy stuff. I don't know. German customs officials show images of tarantulas hidden in sponge cake boxes after a smuggling bust. No. No, thank you. Oh, my gosh. There's photos. Oh, I don't. I'm done with this story. If you guys want to know more, I'll put it in your headlines for a sub stack. But I can't. It's spiders. I can't deal with it. We have Senator Eric Schmidt next. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. And one of the things that we've talked about for quite a bit, several, like, I mean, a lot is this situation with the budget, right? And the rescission package and the pocket rescissions. And if this is going to be something that actually goes through, we were talking to Senator Rand Paul about it and he was in favor of it. I mean, he's he's all for cutting anything. I mean, obviously, the nine point four billion rescissions package is a drop in the bucket. I get that, but it is a cut. I'm not saying, I'm not going, it's a cut. And you have people already fighting about it. Congress is already, House and Senate are already at odds. Of course they are. And this is one of the strategies, remember, that we were hearing about. You have the rescissions package, put that out there, and then maybe get pocket rescissions and allow that to expire, and then you'll get cuts that way. Fait accompli. We're going to be talking with Senator Eric Schmidt from my beautiful show me state home state of Missouri here. He's literally on the floor doing his job for voters right now. So we got to let him do his job. He's coming off the floor and he's going to be joining us about this because he's already talked to POTUS about this. And some of this is the federal spending that has already been appropriated, trying to get some of that back and save taxpayers some money. And then the likelihood of a pocket rescission that actually might happen. I think this is going to be a good indicator of whether or not I mean, obviously, that's something that's doable. But already you have the House and Senate kind of going at it. And Congress has to uphold their end of the deal. I think it's going to be a lot harder for Congress than it is the Senate with us.
SPEAKER 12 :
I wish they would give us a number on what those pocket rescissions exactly would eliminate because we know this rescissions package, $9.4 billion. What's the total amount that could be essentially expired out of the taxpayer's responsibility? How much is that? I would like to know.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't even think that's anything that they can telegraph yet because isn't that part of the strategy? Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Actually, that's a good point.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're probably right. Because you don't want Congress to know. Yeah, exactly. You want to drop it on them like kind of at the last. You don't want it to know. You want to drop it on them at the last minute and then let it expire and then, you know. So, yeah, you don't really. That's the one time where I'm going to be like, yeah, I think it's good to be surreptitious about this.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, play it close to the chest.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. House conservatives are, they're warning the Senate to leave the rescissions package intact. as the deadline is looming to mull this over, to consider this. They have till Friday, right, to deal with this. I know Senator Paul was saying that they're voting today. They have till Friday to deal with this. And this is the legislative version, if you don't know what the rescissions package is, it's the legislative version of a White House request. It's basically the president saying, these funds have already been allocated by Congress for spending. Can we not spend it, please? It's like basically you're requesting to not spend the money that you have earmarked for things. And so that's apparently what they're – well, that's what they're considering, $9.4 billion. A lot of it, you know, from what we've heard is, you know, you've got a lot of foreign spending, things like that. Any cut could be – any cut is good. We've got to get started somewhere. They've got to get used to the idea of cutting things. Yeah. So it's kind of weird for them, right? Because they spin, spin, spin. Now they have to pull back the purse strings and get used to the idea of cutting spending.
SPEAKER 12 :
It shouldn't be weird for them. It should not be weird for them.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I agree. I mean, yes, I agree that it shouldn't it shouldn't be weird. And it did barely pass the House 20 or 214 to 212. You had four Republicans that voted against it because they wanted to keep local. They wanted to keep public government stations. They wanted to have funding for AIDS research in Africa. I mean, I think we know where it comes from. Do we still need to keep spending billions on it? is there any other nation there that can spend money on it? Yeah. Okay. Then why aren't we doing that? Like, yes, make cutting spending. That doesn't sound as good. Great again. M C S G A. Yeah. It doesn't work as well. It doesn't work as well. So they have till July 18th to, to approve this rescission package. One of the, they're looking at 8.3 billion in foreign aid, 1.1 billion for a corporation for public broadcasting. That's NPR and PBS. Um, and that's, it's funny that Elmo got hacked and then he went to do a video with, uh, uh, Robert Reich, who isn't he like a Robert Reich? Isn't he like a journalist over at New York Times? My friend Dave Burge was saying that Elmo went to the next Reich after he got hacked. So they need to john thune who i'm told just pulled senator schmidt majority leader john thune is delaying our interview right now he's he's got to get a 53 seat majority and already it's getting wobbly it has to have a simple majority to pass so they can't have a democrat filibuster but there are some republicans that are kind of dragging their feet at some of these cuts why would you drag your feet at any of this Why? Look, if you're upset, if you're a Republican senator and you're upset that NPR and PBS are the corporation for public broadcasting, which funds all of that with government money that they're getting cut. I've got a great idea for you. It's you remember that viral video where it was get a checkbook, you know, don't Google it. Oh, my gosh. Don't do that because it's and don't play it loudly at work. You'll so get fired. But I feel like they need to listen to that video, though, those lawmakers get out your checkbook. Right. Write that check to Corporation for Public Broadcasting yourself because the rest of us don't need to do it. And eight point three billion in foreign aid programs. Now, the foreign aid programs has nothing to do. I don't I fail to see how anything how any of that has to do with American interests because it's welfare programs. And yes, I'm using just a universal term because that's all it is. It's not like we're putting a drone base inside of a nation, which would be cool. But it's all welfare spending. That's what it is. $8.3 billion. And so... This is the tiniest of cuts you could make. Listen to me. Isn't this what we spend in a day, basically? A day and a half. I think it's a day and a half. We spend $9.4 billion a day and a half, I think. So it's the tiniest little cut. And you already have some, and I'm saying Republicans, some Senate Republicans that are dragging their feet on this. So, I don't know. This idea that, oh, this is going to impact public news. That is such a lie. Public news gets its money from local advertising and national advertising, right? And you don't need government-sponsored public broadcasting when you have the internet. You have social media. You have different websites. This idea of having a government-funded news... This was before the advent of all of social media instant news at your fingertips. It is completely anachronistic to keep this going. There's no reason for it. No reason. And we don't need to be spending, you know, good grief, AIDS research on Africa. Sorry, but no. We know where it comes from. We know where it comes from. Stop. I made the mistake of looking at the U.S. debt clock. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't look at it. No, no, don't do it. Here, I'll send it to you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Didn't they add something? Oh, go ahead. Can we quote Dana from two years ago?
SPEAKER 02 :
Maybe you need to spend less, pimp. Maybe you do.
SPEAKER 12 :
Some opinions never change.
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Some, you know, they never go out of style. I'm saying. But this idea that, oh, we need to make sure that we're spending money for corporation of public broadcasting so local news isn't affected. Local news is not going to be affected. Like I said, these people don't even know how news works. They don't know how local broadcasting works. If you have a local news station, you have a local news station that's always an affiliate of one of the big ones. You have your NBC, your CBS, your ABCs. You have... All of the other, like Fox ones you have, the CNNs, you have all of these other affiliate networks that get national advertising. They sell local advertising. They also get financial assistance from some of these and resource assistance from the bigger networks. and they have their local affiliates. That's why you have like, oh, affiliate, NBC affiliate, whatever. NBC affiliate, KSDK, Channel 5 in St. Louis, right? That's an NBC affiliate. So you don't need, it's not affecting public newsrooms. It's not affecting how you get your local news. That's a lie. It is an absolute lie that they're telling you. And there's so many alternatives to public broadcasting, right? It's made it, it has made the government sponsored public broadcasting, entirely obsolete. So there is no excuse to not cut any of the funding for this, none at all whatsoever. He came in off the floor, fresh off the floor from doing his job for Missouri voters. Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt, one of our favorites. He joins us now via video. Senator, we know you're working hard. We appreciate your time. We know that you got pulled over by Majority Leader John Thune. How is this 53 majority with the rescissions package? I read it was getting a little shaky. Is it a little solid? Is it getting solid?
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I feel good about it. You never know until the votes are actually cast. By the way, it's good to see you again, my friend. But, yeah, look, I think this is, you know, you talk about appointments and the nominations. You talk about reconciliation. Now we've got rescissions. This is a big part of President Trump's agenda to try to rein in this ridiculous spending we saw with USAID, but also with NPR. I mean, there's just no excuse for the Corporation of Public Broadcasting. Right. to be getting taxpayer funded dollars.
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Not to interrupt you, but let me ask you this because I read that there were some, and I was shocked that they didn't name everybody, but some Republican senators that were a little nervous about cutting because they keep thinking that it's going to affect local programming and it doesn't affect local news at all. They can just write a check themselves if they're worried.
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Right. I think some of that was trying to inform. There were a lot of questions last week, which is probably where that information is coming from. There were a lot of questions about how would this impact their states. And what we really spent a lot of time on the last couple of days especially is explaining of how this doesn't touch the emergency broadcast system. This doesn't touch at all how FEMA communicates with people. in emergency situations or weather events. This has nothing to do with that. PBS is glomming onto this idea with the hopes of saving themselves when they've completely lost the trust and the faith of the American people. They don't do anything different than what a local station would do in St. Louis or in Dallas or in Houston. They don't serve any particular purpose in that way beyond what a normal station does because we have an emergency response system that's out there that informs people outside of PBS. So I think that's an important point. Once we clarified that and walk people through it, I think they got a lot more comfortable with it.
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And also included in this is 8.3 billion in foreign aid programs. And I was explaining to our audience, you know, this is not defense spending. This isn't anything about securing American interests. I mean, it's really welfare spending.
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Well, it is. And it's actually crazier than that. I mean, this is the stuff like DEI in Burma and Iraqi Sesame Street and Guatemalan sex changes. I mean, this is what happens when you have a wandering foreign policy establishment here in Washington that's super liberal and super woke and they find ways to spend taxpayer money in nobody. And well, very few people in America would actually support that. So that's what's being clawed back, all that craziness. So it's not getting rid of all foreign aid. We're just going to make sure that that foreign aid with President Trump is aligned with American interests and cut out this woke, crazy nonsense.
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So this is I mean, it seems like this is an easy thing to get both chambers behind. I mean, I don't know why anybody, I mean, you have, you know, even the Rand Paul's and the Massey's that like this. I mean, it's right. I know they want more, but this is, it's a cut. I mean, and I, from what I understand, there's also, and I don't want you to give away any of your cards. You know, there's also the possibility of further cuts with pocket rescissions too.
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Yeah, well, and by the way, there's also opportunities for successful here, which I hope we are, for more recisions to come down. When everybody talked about having the trifecta, the Republican House, Republican Senate, and the White House, there are opportunities that you have, particularly in the Senate, because we don't need 60 votes to do this. We only need... 51 votes to do this. And so that's why we were able to move reconciliation with our priorities. That's why we should be able to move this recisions package. It's why we could have more recisions packages. And it's also why we could theoretically have two more reconciliation packages between now and November of last year. So in my view, Dana, we need to take full advantage of this opportunity the American people have given us and operate with a sense of urgency, which is why we need to pass this rescissions package. You know, tomorrow is likely when we would vote on it after the voterama. And then we have time to go to the House because it has to be done by Friday.
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Yeah, it has to be done by Friday. We're talking to Missouri Senator Eric Schmidt. And this it looks like you're going to keep, you know, the votes needed to keep together the votes needed to pass this for future rescissions. It sounds like you kind of already have a game plan as to what would be included in those.
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Yes. I mean, I think, again, this is a very, very important first step in that. So we need to make sure we do that. But then, yeah, I think there's more that could be identified. I guess to put it in perspective, if you notice, the first thing that Doge and that whole effort kind of went after was USAID because the fraud and the abuse happened. and the laundering, really, of money. And by the way, money that goes to NGOs, Dana, that fueled mass migration. It goes to NGOs that fueled censorship of Americans and Europe and all these kind of crazy ideas the left has had. That's kind of been their piggy bank and their sandbox. And so Doge went after it first. It's why it's the first precision package here. This is some of the lowest hanging fruit that is out there, along with Corporation for Public Broadcasting. And then once we get past this, I think you can move to some more things because there's more savings to be had.
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Yeah, absolutely. Last quick thing before we go. I know you're introducing legislation to double the maximum federal penalty for assaulting or impeding ICE agents. Great to see. We have like less than 60 seconds left. I'll give you a last word on that.
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Yeah, we've seen assaults on ICE agents rise, you know, go up 700 percent in recent weeks. They're under attack. Democrat politicians won't condemn it. They won't say let these ICE agents do their job. So the concern is that this is going to continue. They need to be able to they're doing dangerous work. They have families. They deserve to be protected. And if anybody assaults an ICE officer, we want to double those penalties so you could potentially spend 80 years in prison.
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Well, that's good to see that. All good things. We're going to keep our eyes on this and hope this rescissions package passes and we've got more to come. Senator Eric Schmidt, we're short on time right now, but we'd love to have you back. God bless, my friend. Keep fighting for the American people. Appreciate it.
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Thanks, Dana.
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Well, we're going to watch how that rescissions package goes. In the meantime, Mike Johnson poured some gas on the Epstein fire saying that Pam Bondi needs to come forward. I don't think that that story is going to go away. Yeah, it's not going to go away. We're going to see how this unravels. In the meantime, today in stupidity came.
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It's Anna Navarro. She's made up her blood type is 100% hyperbole and burrito supremes. This is what she has to say. Listen to this.
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Now is to oppose something. I am hoping that next year there will be policy debates between Republicans and Democrats running for Congress. And we will get to hear real policy differences and policy proposals. Also, I want to respond to you saying that I was hyperbolic when I talked about a reign of terror. No, it might be hyperbolic for you as a white man. Oh, my gosh. Not hyperbolic for me as a Latino. No, I'm not being racist.
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Anna, what's her face? Cannot go for 60 seconds without trying to invoke her ethnicity because that's the only reason that she's sitting at that table. Let's be real. Because it's not for smarts. That does it for us today. Find us over at Substack Chapter and Verse. Also YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow.
In a world where political divisions run deep, Mike Gallagher opens a window into the heart of conservative thought as he discusses the challenges of maintaining open dialogues amidst contentious topics like the Epstein controversy and political shunning over ideological differences. With heartfelt anecdotes and a call to unity, he urges listeners to find common ground and support for those affected by natural disasters. Tune in as Gallagher navigates the complex currents of today's political and social climate.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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I trust this audience. I like this audience. I love this audience, actually. You're really my extended family. And I don't know what I'd do without you, and I am so grateful I get to come in here every day and we get to try to hash out the tough, challenging issues we all face. And we have good days and bad days and up days and down days. I trust you. And at the top of every hour, we do what we call a tease on Salem News Channel. And I do hope you're watching the show on the antidote to the mainstream media, Salem News Channel, snc.tv, where you can watch the show as well as listen to us on your favorite radio station. We're heard, of course, on hundreds of stations around the country. And we're also seen on Salem News Channel. And at the top of every hour, we say, coming up this hour, Mike Gallagher's show, coming at you. We got the big hits. And I give you a little preview of what we're going to do. And a moment ago, at the top of the hour tease for this hour, I said, I want to find out if you think we should move on from the Epstein controversy, or should we talk about it? Because the mainstream media wants to talk about it. Folks like Steve Bannon and others want to talk about it. They don't want it to go away. So what does the audience want? And I did a little experiment. I said, text me at 800-655-MIKE and tell me what you think we should do. And I've been getting, just in the last five minutes since I did the top of the hour tease, I've gotten hundreds of texts. I'd say it's 80-20 to move on. In fact, probably the best take came from Dallas. And he or she wrote on the text line, the MyPillow text line, I think we put a pin in it for now regarding Epstein until more information comes out, as I believe it will. And I agree with that. Here's my challenge as a big mouth talk show host. I never want to shut down anything you want to talk about. I just don't. That has happened for too many years in this country. People have been deplatformed. People have lost their jobs. People have lost their careers. People have lost their reputation. People have been shut down for daring to speak out against a lockdown or a vaccine or a point of view, an ideological point of view. And I don't want to be a part of that. I want you to be able to feel comfortable coming to this show to talk about things that matter to you. Does the Epstein controversy matter to you enough to keep it going? Again, the majority of people texting me are saying, move on. Stick a pin in it. Turn the page. There's a lot of other stuff going on. We've got Russia. We've got Ukraine. We've got the Supreme Court. We've got the Department of Education. We've got the borders. We've got attacks on ICE law enforcement. We've got real heady stuff happening all the time. So what do I do as a talk show host? What I know is talking about it, which is why I'm inclined to move on, is a dream for the Trump-hating legacy media. The impression that MAGA is being torn apart over this is just what the Trump haters want. Look at the headlines. Trump's MAGA base split over the handling of the Epstein files. Look at the Daily Beast. Michael Wolff, his biographer says, Trump is really afraid of the Epstein story. Yeah, because he walks around in perpetual fear. The division between MAGA will be felt and might impact the midterms. On and on and on and on. And that's why I'm inclined to move on. Here's what Laura Ingraham said last night about the damage that some conservative, supposedly MAGA influencers are causing the Trump administration.
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Now, as conservative influencers were eating their own about Epstein, the president was stealing the show on the one-year anniversary of the day he almost lost his life. He made a triumphant appearance at a global sporting event. At the World Cup FIFA final, Trump basked in the moment.
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It was just it was wonderful. There was Trump in the middle of all these soccer players having the time of his life with the crowd roaring its approval. Don't believe the liars who say he was over resoundingly booed. No, he wasn't. They're lying to you. Because they lie. And it's the nature of this. It's the fact that they lie that makes this so challenging, that makes this so difficult. So look, all I can do is what I always do. Throw out the phone number, 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. You can call or text. Let your voice be heard because I want to make sure your voice is heard. Again, For the record, the overwhelming majority of texters on the MyPillow text line are saying move on. Let's see what you think. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition, a proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off, like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago, and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit myphdweightloss.com.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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To Epstein or not to Epstein, that is the question. I did a poll earlier today. As we do these top-of-the-hour teases on Salem News Channel, I said, how many of you want us to keep talking about the Epstein drama and controversy? How many of us want us to move on? How many of you want us to move on? And about 80%, I'd say, said, move on. The left wants this drama. Look at these headlines. Oh, Trump is really worried. Oh, he's scared now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's real scared. Trump's a real scaredy cat. The guy that gets shot and stands up and thrusts his fist in the air and says, fight, fight, fight. He's a real coward. Nice try. But the bottom line is, this division does hurt the Trump agenda. And the question is going to be, for how long and how much? People are frustrated. People are scratching their heads. People are annoyed. I get it. I totally do. And I've always believed in showcasing every point of view. I'm not a host that likes to talk down to his audience. I don't think. I'm particularly condescending. I'd like to believe it's why the show has had the measure of success that it has had. I think I know this audience. And I know that there are people who are frustrated that it seemed that there was going to be some accountability for crimes committed on Epstein Island, and now it appears there is not. President Trump wants clearly for the world to move on. He trusts Pam Bondi. He trusts Kash Patel. He trusts Dan Bongino. And he expects and hopes that we trust him. And I do. There's all this desperate reporting. Oh, Trump made calls. He called Charlie Kirk. I don't know if that's true or not. I have no idea. I know Charlie says he trusts people in the administration, and Charlie has accepted the premise of moving on. And I did get a text from somebody today who said, I think the right thing to do is stick a pin in it for now and see if anything else comes out. But let's stop ignoring all of the successes that the Trump administration is delivering. That's what the Trump haters don't want. They don't want any acknowledgement of all the Supreme Court victories that the Trump administration is getting, of a sealed border. They don't want any of that. They don't want mass deportation. They don't want people rounded up who are criminals. You know what they want? They want divisiveness. They want MAGA to implode. Meanwhile, Trump is off celebrating with FIFA soccer players and having a good time and celebrating the achievements of this administration. There was an article in the New York Times which really intrigued me. It was an opinion piece by a guy named David Litt. And I really appreciated it. It was an opinion that said that he felt in the past, the writer felt it was his duty to be rude to his brother-in-law. Because his brother-in-law is a conservative. I met Matt in 2012. It was immediately clear we had nothing in common, he writes. He lifted weights to death metal. I jogged to Stephen Sondheim. I was one of Obama's speechwriters. He was a huge Joe Rogan fan. He went on to get his electrician's license. He went on to say that since this guy was a vaccine skeptic, he felt it was his civic duty to be rude to him. He said it was his job to ostracize him because he was anti-mandate and anti-vaccine and what kind of person would do that? And then he writes in the article that they started to change their relationship. And he became more open-minded about people who don't see the world the way he does. And he writes, this former Obama speechwriter writes, my advice is always the same. Our differences are meaningful. But allowing them to mean everything is part of how we ended up here. When we cut off contacts or let algorithms sort us into warring factions, we forget that not so long ago we used to have things to talk about that didn't involve politics. Shunning one another plays into the hands of demagogues. making it easier for them to divide us, even in some cases to incite violence. There are, of course, some people so committed to odiousness that it defines them. But are most people like that? In an age when banishment backfires, keeping the door open to unlikely friendship isn't a betrayal of principles, it's an affirmation of them. I am, look, Greg Gutfeld tore into this guy. Greg went after him and mocked him. Oh, you like Stephen Sondheim and you're an a-hole and all that. And I get that reaction, I guess. But I look at this a little bit differently. I appreciate somebody recognizing that shunning each other over politics... inevitably does backfire. And look, I've experienced this. And I'll tell you this. In my personal life, I'll give you two examples. I've been shunned, and I shunned somebody else. So I'm guilty of this. I've had a years-long friend who has stopped talking to me because of my support for President Trump and my status as a registered Republican. Just stopped talking to me after the election. Known him for years. And I admit it's kind of hurtful. We've had a generous friendship. I've been very generous to him over the years. He's been kind to me over the years and generous. I guess that friendship is over. I have another friend who blasted me the morning after the election, tearing into me by text. And we mostly talk now by text. And I attempted to be gracious to her. I said, look, I'm sorry you're hurting. I'm sorry the election didn't go the way you wanted it to go. And she kept attacking me. I blocked her. There's a funny little feature on your phone. It's called Block. You never have to hear from that person again. And that's what I did. And that's sad, too, because I've known her for many years. This article about... Should we snub one another? Should we shun one another? I think it's pretty valuable. And I don't want to make fun of the guy because he is an elitist Democrat Obama speechwriter who listens to show tunes. I appreciate a guy trying to find a little bit of common ground and realizing that it was a mistake for him to treat his brother-in-law Like a horse's ass. Because the horse's ass was the guy from the New York Times, not the brother-in-law. The horse's ass, frankly, is the person, the years-long friend of mine, who has shunned me and decided to stop talking to me. And I will admit, I'm the horse's ass for shunning the person that I shunned. who was blowing up my phone with ugly text messages, attacking me for who I voted for. I don't know if we can find any common ground. I don't know if there's any hope or not. But I do appreciate, and I'm going to play the Greg Gutfeld part of his response to this writer, David Litt, in the New York Times. I want you to hear why he thinks... this guy is suddenly coming around. It's almost like some of them on the left are saying, look, these guys on the right were right all along about the Trump presidency. But let me get your take on it as well. 800-655-MIKE as we kick things off for a Tuesday. And again, I'm not going to shun you if you're upset about the Epstein scandal. We can talk a little bit about it. I'm all right with that. There's a lot of influencers who are saying it's time to move on. I agree that we will move on, whether you like it or not. You may not like that message, but I never want to shut you down. So feel free to join us here in the Relief Factor Studios as we kick off a Tuesday. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. Join us. We're partnering with our friends at the nonprofit relief agency, Food for the Poor, and rushing emergency relief kits to these flood-ravaged part of the world. 128 people confirmed dead. Many, many more are still missing. As you know, President Trump and the First Lady visited the flood zone in Texas over the weekend. 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Salem News Channel viewers, seeing a live look at Wrigley Field, home of the Chicago Cubs, in Chicagoland, where we're heard on AM560, The Answer. Best wishes to Amy Jacobson, who departed the station recently, and looks like Dan is going to be flying solo, and just a great team, and we wish her nothing but the best. Opinion, should I snub my right-wing relatives? Before we take your calls on this article by this a column over at the New York times by David lit, who's a former Obama speechwriter who seems to be saying, Hey man, it's not a good idea to snub people and to shun people over political differences. Here was Greg Gutfeld's response on his show last night on Fox news. Uh, You know, I'm not playing the whole thing. The first part of it is him making fun of the guy for listening to Sondheim, and he's an elitist, out of touch, a-hole, and blah, blah, blah. But here's what Greg says is the reason that suddenly somebody who writes over at the New York Times is having a change of heart about people like you and me.
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The U.S. had a budget surplus of $27 billion last month, the first June surplus in years. Prices are down, stocks are roaring, wages are up, and the big beautiful bill is law. The border's sealed, violent illegals are getting the boot, he's trashed Iran's nuclear capabilities and rooted out wasteful spending. Hell, he even convinced Rosie to get the hell out. I could go on, but I left the baby with a brand new set of lawn darts. But among Republicans, Trump is the most popular president in history because he's winning. And the left would prefer you supporting a loser. Hell, they've done that plenty of times. But Trump is kicking their asses mentally and physically. In fact, his foot is making such regular contact, they're all suffering from athlete's butt. But maybe the New York Times is starting to suspect they don't speak for America anymore and never did. Maybe they're realizing that your average Trump-loving electrician could be smarter, more resilient, and better at community than the guy with the show tune playlist. The truth is, they need us more than we need them. When a street gang surrounds you, no one's ever yelled, quick, belt out some tunes from West Side Story. But Democrats, you can't unburn the bridge that you proudly torched in 2020. Those of us on the right, what you call the political lepers, are just fine over here by ourselves. So keep waving a limp olive branch. But until you admit you were wrong and apologize, you can stick that branch where the sun don't shine. And given the number of on your side, you've got plenty of places to stick it.
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You know, it's kind of a satisfying monologue, but in a way, this writer does apologize for shunning his own brother-in-law. You know, Greg says, until you apologize and say you were wrong, well, you know, you can read this article. Maybe you have a different take on it from me, but that's kind of what this guy does. Bobby's in Phoenix, Arizona. Hey, Bobby, welcome to the show. How are you? Bobby, you there? Yes, yes, yes.
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Hey there.
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Humility is hard. How are you? Hello. Yes, ma'am. Step right up.
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I am. I have a solution to all of this horror that I've seen during many years. And I sit back and I observe 12-step program. We need to apologize to each other. We are all creations in Christ. We are all made the same way, just different attributes.
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I like that. I like that a lot. I mean, I'm not sure people are going to be in the mood to do that, but shunning people, not a great idea. Quickly, I'm trying to get as many voices on here as we can. David in Chicago.
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David, how are you? Hi, good morning, Mr. Goh. Hi. I just wanted to say two things. First and foremost, what was this guy's name? David Litt. So I believe it's you, sir. I think it's you. And I stole this from you. If it is, if they didn't have any, if they didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all. And so I wouldn't know. It's a virtue signaling ploy. Like they always do. Like, look at us. We're great. That's just my take on the whole thing. And the second thing being, um, The second thing being with the Epstein thing, oh, my God, that's become so yesterday's news so long ago. I can't understand why anybody's still talking about it. So you want to move on?
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You want to move on? Yes, yes. Gotcha. All right. Thank you, David. One open line, 800-655-MIKE. Steve in Dayton, Ohio. Steve, what do you think?
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Well, I think that the problem is more basic than just not snubbing each other. It seems to me the problem is... backing up a little bit. In any society, you've got three basic institutions, three that are just there, no underlying predicate. The first one is a family institution. The second one is a religious institution. And the third one is a civic institution. And basically, the religious institution, among other things, sets society's values and politics is supposed to operate within the civic institution.
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The text message of the MyPillow text line from Kelly in Jacksonville, Florida. Mike, please, please, please tell your story about the Hall of Presidents at Disney World again. I only got a little piece of it, and I wanted to hear every word. All right. Let me just quickly tell you. It's an anecdotal story. I think it kind of, at least anecdotally, describes how Americans feel about about President Trump and the state of the nation. Hall of Presidents is an iconic exhibit at Disney World. And, of course, when Trump was president the first time, they had him on stage. They're all animatronics. They're presidents that are all there nodding and they're rocking. It's a little cool, but it's also a little jarring to see them all up there on stage. But I always loved it because there's an inspirational movie and talks about the history of the country and everything. And then the curtains open up and there's Abe Lincoln and George Washington and, yes, Donald Trump. And when they went through the roll call, they basically introduced every single president. And they're all up there nodding their heads and rocking some of them. It's a really, I love the exhibit. And I wanted to see what it was like now that Trump is back. Now, I remember the first time around, there was some trouble for Disney because lunatics were screeching and screaming and booing Trump. They even had to put security guards in the theater for a bunch of animatronics. I guess they were worried that somebody was going to rush the robot, you know, and tackle the robot. But I was really fascinated by when they got to the part. And this is a few hundred people. The theater wasn't filled, but it was pretty filled. But there was probably several hundred people in the audience. And they started announcing all the presidents. And people cheered for all the prominent presidents. Washington, FDR, John F. Kennedy, Reagan, George W. Bush. When they got to Joe Biden... You couldn't hear a sound. Not one single person clapped for Joe Biden when it was his turn. And then when it got to Trump, they didn't just call out his name as the current president. They had him reciting the oath of office. Listen to the crowd, because I was rolling with my iPhone, and I took a little video when it got to Trump's part.
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Hi, Donald John Trump. President of the United States and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So help me God.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then there was a big ovation at the end. Not one boo, not one negative thing said, just cheering for President Trump. And again, for what it's worth, not a sound when Joe Biden was introduced. Is Disney going MAGA? There was J.D. Vance over the weekend bringing his wife and kids to Disneyland in California. You know, people get mad at me because I share my love of Disney and I know Disney's pretty woke and people get aggravated. Look, if it's good enough for J.D. Vance, it ought to be good enough for Mike Gallagher. The vice president can go to Disney. Why can't I go? Now, admittedly, I'm not bringing little kids anymore like Denise and I used to. I'm one of those creepy adults who goes without kids. Scott Jennings, incidentally, on CNN and our newest host here on Salem in the afternoons, Scott says that those of us adults who go to Disney World by ourselves without kids ought to be sentenced to alligator Alcatraz. We ought to be at alligator Alcatraz, locked up. I Disney has got a special place in my heart, has a lot to do with my wife and my kids and our history and our past and our family and memories. But isn't it interesting that, again, just anecdotally, nobody in that audience clapped for Biden and plenty of people cheered. If you want to see that clip, if you text the keyword HALL to the MyPillow text line, we'll send it back to you and you can check out the way the crowd reacted. And no, that is not me whooping and hollering. That was a guy sitting right in front of me. Somebody just said, Mike, was that you woohooing? It was not me woohooing. The woohooer was a guy in front of me. I was just taking a video on my iPhone. I think I did a pretty good job. Don't you think, Christian? Is there a future for me as a cameraman for the Salem News Channel? Hope there's a future for you paying attention to the message from Americans for a Balanced Budget. Portions of our show are sponsored by Americans for a Balanced Budget. Congress secured a historic win for President Trump and the American people by passing the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. But that victory is now at risk. Massive health care tax hike looms if Congress fails to act. Americans for a balanced budget is sounding the alarm. Key health care tax credits are set to expire at the end of the year. If that happens, 24 million Americans could face skyrocketing health care costs. Millions could lose their coverage. rural communities would be hit especially hard with job losses, fewer providers, and reduced access to care. Congress has to act now to protect these vital tax credits for Americans who buy their own health insurance. President Trump's pollster found that 77% of voters, including over 70% of Trump supporters, are more likely to vote for candidates who preserve these credits. Americans for a Balanced Budget is calling on Congress to protect the full promise of the One Big Beautiful Bill by preventing a devastating healthcare tax hike. Your voice counts. Just go to StopHealthCostHikes.com. That's StopHealthCostHikes.com. Tell Congress to protect tax credits, stop rising costs, and act before it's too late. Stop higher health care costs. Visit StopHealthCostHikes.com today. Here's Sean in Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, Sean, wants to weigh in on the New York elections. Hey, Sean, how are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, Sean. Hi, Mike. How are you doing? I'm good, Sean.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so I want to respond to Mondani. Look, if he cares about New York, just step down, get a Republican in there, and we'll come visit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's pretty easy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, he should be listening to this right now and thinking, do you want me to step down? Yes. Do you want to get Republican there? Yes. Back Republican? Hey, my whole family would go to New York. I know other people would, too. I live here in Jacksonville, and there's tons of people from New York moving out of New York because they're fearing this guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
And he knows that, Sean. That's the thing. He knows it. He knows full well. I mean, this is classic gaslighting. That's all it is. This is epic gaslighting. This is a guy who's saying, you know what I'll do? I'll pretend that Trump is the reason people are fleeing New York. People are fleeing New York because of progressivism, because of the quality of life there, because of the cost of living, because of everything. That's what's happening. Everybody knows it. Zoran Mamdani knows him. This guy is a wolf in sheep's clothing. And at the end of the day, New York better figure it out. There's all kinds of Stop Mamdani rallies that are taking place all over the country right now. There's more of that. People are really worried and really frightened. And who can blame them? Who can blame them? People are saying, can you repeat what word to text to see that clip of Trump at the Hall of Presidents? Hall. H-A-L-L. Just text the keyword Hall to the MyPillow text line. 800-655-MIKE. We'll send it back to you.
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SPEAKER 09 :
And everybody goes, who cares who the mayor of New York is? It's really important. It's the biggest city in America. It's hugely visible. And yesterday, Andrew Cuomo said, I'm getting back in, running as an independent. And I'm going to tell you, that is bad news for Mr. Mamdani, because now he's got three guys running against him, all have some degree of skin in the game. You've got Eric Adams, you've got Andrew Cuomo, and you've got Curtis Sliwa. And there's no runoff. The winner, plurality wins. Somebody could win this with 35%. Curtis got 28 when he ran sort of head-to-head against Eric Adams four years ago. It's not out of the question. Andrew Cuomo getting in, I don't think Andrew's going to win. I don't think, I don't know. I think it's bad news for Mamdani. It might be good news for Curtis Sliwa. And so, you know, hey, so I offer you that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. I see it completely opposite. I think you're 100% wrong. You're dead wrong. And let me tell you why. Because all of the analysts, and listen, you could be smarter than all of them, but everybody says all this does is split the vote and give Mamdani a path into the mayoral's office. Because you're going to have three guys who are going to split apart the vote.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's a Mamdani vote and a non-Mamdani vote, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. I mean, there's no way this helps him. There isn't any way. In fact, I'm a little shocked at your perspective. If you've got Cuomo pulling 15% or 20%, Curtis pulling 15% or 20%, Eric Adams pulling 15% or 20%, how do you think that beats Mom Donnie? Then all he needs is 31%. He's going to win it with 30-some percent. That's Mom Donnie.
SPEAKER 09 :
know that it's him. You don't know that it's him? In November. In something about November. It's a long time. A lot of the blue may come off of his rose. I hope it does.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, there to me is a parallel between the New York City mayor's race and the Epstein story, and let me tell you what it is. The only way we screw ourselves is when we screw ourselves. Now, I mean, look at the media now running with Epstein, and they're just loving this. Yeah. Kim Jeffrey's all about it, Steve. They're torn. MAGA's tearing themselves apart. Axios, the siege mentality. It's the first time that Trump has gotten a revolt, and they're tearing. It's the first time since Trump came down the escalator that MAGA is turning on him. Look at him go. Look at him go. Again, self-inflicted wound on our part. We're doing this to ourselves. In New York, if the egos... Of Eric Adams and Chris Cuomo and my friend Curtis, and he is my friend, and I had him on the show yesterday. Look, in a perfect world, Curtis Sliwa is Giuliani 2.0. I mean, he's the best thing that could possibly happen in New York. Are you kidding me? a law and order guy. He knows every inch of New York City, is founder of the Guardian Angels. When I interviewed him yesterday, he reminded me of the Underbelly Tour that he gave me the first night I took over at WABC. He took me under his wing. Curtis Lewa took me under his wing and said, Mike Gallagher, you're the new kid on the block here at WABC. You just sort of ostensibly replaced Bob Grant, which were big shoes for Phil. But that was my big gig right at WABC, and Curtis was a fixture there at the time. He was the perennial fill-in talk show host for every shift. In fact, this is not a joke, he used to sleep on the floor under his desk in a cubicle, and when somebody was out, he would pop up and go in and do a talk show. I watched him in a dead sleep get woken up, walk into the studio, and start talking like he didn't miss a beat. This guy's a machine. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
I make myself available for a bunch of shows. I ain't sleeping in the building waiting for the opportunity.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're a piker compared to Curtis Lewa. So he was Mr. WABC. So my first day, he said, Mike Gallagher, I'm going to take you to the Guardian Angels stadium. underbelly tour of New York we were in Harlem we went to the Bronx and I mean the Bronx at 10 o'clock at night I mean it was and he's got the bright red beret and I'm thinking we're going down any minute now
SPEAKER 09 :
The guardian angels were the guardian angels were the beret wearing force led by Curtis. It wasn't it wasn't a message that said the cops aren't enough or not at all. It was it was very like, listen, we're going to be the eyes and ears. We know you guys can't be everywhere. But the guardian angels were on the subways in the neighborhoods there to sometimes call the police or there to sometimes intervene in some nonlethal way to just make.
SPEAKER 08 :
Beloved by most New Yorkers. Even though everybody knows Curtis is a rock-ribbed conservative, they still love the idea of helping the police. And look, I think he sleeps with that red beret on. I almost had the guts to ask him yesterday in the interview, if you lost the beret, you think you'd go up 10 points? But I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER 09 :
You told me that a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't do it. That's his brand.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know. I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know.
SPEAKER 08 :
And he's all about the brand. He's very good about branding. In fact, now he's walking around with a Curtis for NYC mayor jacket on. So he knows how to brand. So anyway, we're, we're, and he reminded me, we were, and here's the crazy part about that night where I got to go to the, we went to White Castle and got slide, you know, he, what do you call them? Gut busters, sliders, gut bombs. I mean, and people are, Hey Curtis, yo Curtis. And I'm thinking, and I got a tour and that night TWA flight 800 went down off the coast of Long Island and he and I raced back to the radio station and we both worked into the wee hours of the morning going, With that coverage, that was the night that that all happened. That was my initiation to WABC. And Curtis yesterday said one of the kindest things that I've heard. I mean, look, I don't get a lot of kudos. I don't ask for them. I don't pat myself on the back. We haven't even mentioned that I'm number nine on this year's Talkers Magazine heavy hundred list. We don't want to even mention that. I mean, who's keeping track? I'm number nine. But, look, Curtis said, I watched you in action, Mike Gallagher, that night, and I saw you to be the broadcaster that you are. You're as good as anybody in the business. And he just gave me a lot of real nice compliments. And so, look, he'd be a fantastic mayor, but he's not going anywhere. He's a Republican in a blue, blue, blue city. And the conventional wisdom is, and I think you said it, if I'm not mistaken, a few weeks ago, yeah. Good luck, Curtis, with that. That ain't going to happen. So here's what Cuomo proposed. By September, let's look at where the three of us are in the polling. And whoever is second and third drop out and coalesce behind the person who's leading in the polling so that it's a one-on-one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Or if it's Mamdani still leading in the polling, whoever is first among the non-Mamdani people.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Mamdani is the nominee, Mark. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 09 :
The primaries are over. We're done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, it's a general election between Mamdani and anyone else. So of the three challengers of Eric Adams, Cuomo, or Curtis, let's coalesce. Look, that's the only chance New York's got, because if they don't, they're going to split the vote. And you're saying, I mean, if you look at the math, Mamdani doesn't need that much if all three of them peel off enough votes to split. Do you think that'll be?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I don't think. It's probably not going to be Curtis. Probably not going to be Curtis.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mark, I don't think any of their egos are going to let him do that. They're not going to back down.
SPEAKER 09 :
But just as a thought exercise, between Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo, who do you think will have more pullovers?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, or Curtis Lee. In a perfect world, it would be Curtis. No, but it's not.
SPEAKER 09 :
So the world's not perfect, and it is New York. So might it be? Do you think it's Andrew Cuomo's idea, right? And I think it's based on the belief that he thinks he'll be second in the polls. It'll be Mom Donnie, Cuomo, and then Eric and Curtis. And he'll say, look, those of you who are below me, get out so that it can be just me against Mom Donnie, and then I got a chance.
SPEAKER 08 :
If one of those guys is challenging Mamdani, I think one of them will win. If two or three of them are challenging him, Mamdani is going to win. Again, it's going to be a self-inflicted wound because egos are going to get in the way. And Cuomo has as big an ego as anybody in the universe. So he's now he's running as he declared yesterday. He's running as an independent, you know. I'm in it to—and it was a lackluster, lifeless message. Who cares?
SPEAKER 09 :
To use your very sound premise of your sort of connection between self-inflicted wounds and needless or unfortunate conflict in what should be a time of harmony and energy for MAGA, you're 100% right, and that's part of what grieves me a little bit. But it's not like these people are wrong. The folks who are clamoring for more accountability—clamming? I mean, there ain't going to be no client list, guys. Sorry. But for something, just give us something. Throw us a bone, man. They're not wrong. And so what are you, what are we telling those folks?
SPEAKER 08 :
See, that's a good question. Because I've got people pulling me, and you're probably getting the same thing. I get text messages saying, please stop talking about Epstein. Get over it. Please move on. We've got big wins at the Supreme Court. Don't look now. The court is letting Trump do what he wants to do with the Department of Education, which is well overdue. Huge win there. All kinds of wins. All kinds of accomplishments. And we're missing it because everybody's obsessing about Epstein. But you and I are of the mindset that I'm not going to shut down the way people feel or what they want to talk about. I can't do it. Everybody's talking about the Epstein thing. And your analysis today, and again, I was listening to you, the old Howard Franklin monologue, the old Howard Franklin Bridge, Mark Davis monologue.
SPEAKER 09 :
I take Mike across Tampa Bay every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
You take me, and boy, you ought to see what they're doing to that thing. They're blowing up spans, and they're doing new construction, and it looks like something out of another movie. But I'm listening to you, and I'm thinking, Mark is spot on. I mean, you're right. You have a right to be frustrated, because this is going to not have a satisfying conclusion. And the reason we're frustrated is that we've got so many satisfying conclusions. Look at the border. He got the border sealed in a matter of hours. Okay. Just like that. The economy is turning around. The stock market is soaring. We are respected again on the world stage. But there's not going to be an easy resolution to this. You're so right. If they had any dirt on Trump, this whole narrative that Trump's probably on the list, baloney. They would have used it. Any Republican. Everybody was hanging out with Epstein in the 90s. Yep. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, and Oprah. They were all hanging out with the guy. So that's not enough. But again, but people keep saying to me, but Mike, if there are all these terrible, terrible girls that were victimized, how do you let all those men get away with it? Well, you shouldn't. But here's a weird question that nobody seems to be asking. Well, some do. Mm-hmm. Why aren't any of the victims coming forward saying he did this to me or he did that to me? Nobody. There's not one. What's up with that?
SPEAKER 09 :
These are all women now. After decades of navigating this, easy to say, hard to do. Easy for us to say. Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then your life gets ruined.
SPEAKER 09 :
Then your life gets blown up. how many flipping victims are we supposed to have? We should be able to fill a football stadium with them. So the story is told. It would seem that there'd be a handful who'd be willing to say, and I'll tell you, they would be met with empathy, huge appreciation, and somebody stepping forward to say, I was one of those young girls, and here are six guys who did things to me.
SPEAKER 08 :
That would be unbelievably terrible. It's all unfortunate. And let me tell you the most important thing of all. Don't shoot the messenger. Don't get mad at Mike. Blame Mark when I say the following. When I say, it's going to blow over. It's going to blow over. It's going to blow over. And I give it a week, maybe a couple weeks, but it's going to blow over. And that makes people crazy when I say that. Did I hear you say you're totally right? Of course you're totally right. Okay, I blame Mark Davis for this point of view. Direct all correspondents to Mark Davis at Mark Davis.
SPEAKER 09 :
Definition of blowing over. We're going to move on. The vast majority of people will. some the mass the vast some folks won't the people that want the clicks and they want the and and look they're not wrong you're right in the media influencers clickbait world but i also mean some good-hearted people who love you and love me and and think we're just not torqued off enough about this or just you know we if we were to just we don't care we're hypocrites i know ambivalent about child yeah i love that one yeah that's a good one they're they're they're they're
SPEAKER 08 :
they're just frustrated they're frustrated and i and i and i was forever about everything the basis i know bob france filling in for stegall this morning said look look at all the cover-ups from the auto pen to biden's very condition to comey and clapper to who shot trump and why and you know but that's but that's not a donald trump affectation correct that's not that it does not come from trump so to trust the guy he got he's got information that we don't have he's saying move on he's saying don't let's not blow this thing up last thing because we're late
SPEAKER 09 :
What do you mean he's got information that we don't have? I mean, I think you're generally right about that most days. It's true most days he's president. But what does he know that we are not allowed to know, huh?
SPEAKER 08 :
How do we know when we don't know? How do I know? You know, if you don't know, you don't know. I mean, that's the point. I know what I don't know. I do know that everyone should blame Mark Davis for saying we're going to move on.
SPEAKER 09 :
At Mark Davis at X. I'm moving on from this segment right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
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In this eye-opening episode of Sekulow, host Logan Sekulow and his team unravel the latest developments in the FBI conspiracy probe. Featuring exclusive insights from John Solomon at Just the News, we explore the intricate details behind newly uncovered evidence dating back to major political events from 2016 onward. Special appearances by experts like Mike Pompeo add depth to discussions on potential biases within the Department of Justice and broader implications for U.S. electoral integrity.
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Welcome to Sekulow. Let's open up them phone lines. Let's do that right now. There they are. 1-800-684-3110. No, again, not a rerun. There is more evidence. There's new stuff breaking. We're coming in hot today with a lot of breaking news and a just... jam-packed show. Will Haynes is joining me in studio as always, but we've got John Solomon from Just the News coming up next, followed by Mike Pompeo, followed by Rick Grinnell. So you're going to want to stay tuned. It is going to be packed with experts. You're not going to want to miss this. Of course, a lot of you are just joining us right now to discuss what these documents are. What is this moment? What is this new evidence? And of course, this also does come up from a report from our friends at Just the News. So we're going to break that down coming up in the next segment with John Solomon. But Will, give us a brief.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. So yesterday we talked about the reporting from John Solomon at Just the News that there was this grand conspiracy investigation that's going on at the FBI looking all the way back to to 2016 and 2015 really when the russia gate hoax kind of started as well as the investigation into hillary clinton's email server and issues surrounding that and that they're looking in to see if this is a grand conspiracy by former doj and intel community conspiracy a technical term are you just saying that's how he categorized it and put it in quotes so i feel like that is what the source was telling him it's a very national treasure it's a grand conspiracy But they're saying that this is a, you know, a multi-year, almost a decade long conspiracy by members within the DOJ, the Intel community and others in the deep state to influence elections and get favorable outcomes for their preferred candidates, namely Democrats in this case and against President Trump. Today, we're learning. that a big key part of that could be the evidence that Kash Patel and Dan Bongino found in the FBI headquarters that was in what they're describing as almost like a vault or a lockbox. There was evidence related to things like Russiagate that was hidden even from internal FBI servers.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is National Treasure Tile stuff. Right. They're looking through Mission Impossible. They find a lockbox. I got to bust it open. They open up this lockbox. What's in it? Steel dossier.
SPEAKER 03 :
All the dossier.
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It's actually made of steel.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. That was the thing that changed there is that steel dossier wasn't referring to Christopher Steele. It was referring to the box that hold it, which actually tells us whole big grand conspiracy.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, look, I think this is a really big deal. The FBI opened up about three months ago what they call a grand conspiracy case, which looks at the last 10 years of weaponization as one ongoing criminal conspiracy. And it's sort of a wash, rinse and repeat cycle. Democrat has a criminal or political problem. Hillary Clinton with emails, Hunter Biden with corruption emails. Joe Biden with classified documents. They get magically cleared, even though there's evidence suggesting they shouldn't be cleared. And then they project a similar problem on the Republican candidate, Donald Trump, for Russia collusion, which never existed. Donald Trump for Ukraine and interfering in Ukraine relations when there was a good reason to ask for an investigation. Donald Trump for documents at Mar-a-Lago after Joe Biden had this problem. You weaponize the judicial intelligence system against one party and you use it to protect the other party. That would be an ongoing criminal conspiracy. It allows prosecutors to go back and charge crimes that occurred in 16, 17 and 18. And more significantly, you wouldn't have to necessarily bring this case in Washington, D.C., where a 90 percent Democratic candidate. jury poll doesn't seem to have any interest in holding Democrats accountable. You could put it in a place like Florida, where Donald Trump's home was raided by Jack Smith, who, as the court ultimately ruled, was improperly appointed. He wasn't even a legitimate special counsel. And you can make that one of the overt acts, put the grand jury in Florida, where you have a much more centrist audience and perhaps get a fair hearing of this evidence. So that's the excitement. I think the FBI has done its part. It opened the predicated case. It's now up to Pam Bonney to assign a prosecutor and also to decide whether it would be better to do a special counsel since they would be investigating matters that their boss, Donald Trump, was a victim for. It would give a sense of credibility to maybe do special prosecutor and get that ball rolling.
SPEAKER 03 :
When you look at also this new revelation related to potentially the FBI having almost their own compartmentalized department for things related to things like Russiagate that wasn't even really accessible to the FBI writ large that Kash Patel has talked about, as well as Dan Bongino has talked about this. You look at this and it seems to, at least in the public narrative, paint this picture that could seem like there was a conspiracy within the DOJ and the FBI to pull this off, and also that they didn't want this information readily available to those that conduct oversight. What are you hearing out of Congress as these revelations come forward for those that are supposed to be doing oversight of these agencies that were being hidden things that they have the right to?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's a great point. I had Senator Ron Johnson on. He and Senator Grassley were one of the early investigators of the Russia collusion caper. As it turned out to be a completely bogus investigation, they got us the early text messages between Pete Strzok and Lisa Page, the lovebirds. He said yesterday, listen, I always thought there was a criminal effort to keep us in the dark, and I think we're beginning to see proof of it. And I think this discovery of this documents room where super sensitive stuff was, according to Kash Patel, kept away from Congress, kept from the American public, stored in a room. And when Kash Patel finds those documents, it's right around the same time he opens up the conspiracy case. What does that tell you? What he read in that room made him think that this wasn't just incompetence. It wasn't just political meddling in election, that there was some criminal conspiracy. So he opens up the broader case. And now Attorney General Pam Bondi has an opportunity to do something, I think, quite historic.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and this is something that we've had you on this broadcast for years about these issues. As your reporting has followed things within the Russia collusion scandal and the hoax that followed from that and other issues, you've been on top of this. You've had great sources at Just the News throughout the years on this. But this... I think there's some concern in the conservative base at this point when these cases we start to finally get a taste of accountability for those that it's not like it was a secret to all of us that have followed it and you that have reported that this this whole scheme existed. They clearly were moving in this way and all the public evidence seemed to point towards that. But there seems to be almost fatigue within the political base when it comes to announcing these big things or doing this big work if you can't get it across the finish line. What are your thoughts and what are you hearing about if it is something that is able to be turned over to a grand jury, if that's something they believe that they can take this case across the finish line?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, listen, I think you've identified a problem. Even the most fervent supporters of President Trump, the fervent supporters of returning to law and order, ending weaponization, they've been tired by the process because they got John Durham. John Durham brought some prosecutions and a D.C. jury vindicated people who probably engaged in wrongdoing. So the frustration from that experience, the frustration that occurred in the sort of mishandling of the rollout of the Jeffrey Epstein documents, it creates some distrust in the base. Everybody who heard about this story on Monday got excited about it. Even grizzled old Russiagate investigators saying, hey, this is a good idea. And I think the difference here is that you're not going to have to face a D.C. jury where your pool is 90 percent tainted in one direction, leaning in one direction for Democrats. That was John Durham's problem and Bill Barr's problem and maybe impaneling that grand jury in that city. and making that the venue. In this case, with Jack Smith's activities in Florida, you can move it to a more centrist state, a state where you have common sense people outside the beltway looking at this, not looking for political excuses not to do something, but just looking at the evidence fairly. You probably can get it. You also rewind the statute of limitations, one of the biggest concerns of the base. We let all these crimes expire, and that's true, except when you do a conspiracy case. So there's a lot there. There are two pieces of evidence that Donald Trump would have to declassify. They're not FBI or DOJ antiquities. They belong to the CIA, the NSA, and other sensitive agencies. But I want to tell you what they are because they're the ignition point for that wash rinse repeat cycle that I just laid out before. The first is a classified annex to the Justice Department Inspector General's review of the FBI's mishandling of the Hillary Clinton email case. That was the first scandal that started this. James Comey walks out and clears her and he has no legal authority to clear, but he does it. But what we now know from a description of that classified annex from Senator Chuck Grassley is that that annex includes proof that the FBI, just before it cleared Hillary Clinton, had gotten brand new secret intelligence suggesting there was criminality involved. And the FBI chose not to investigate. They turned a blind eye and just waved a magic wand and exonerated her. Getting that declassified, whatever that is, an intercept from the NSA or a human from CIA, going to be very important so that it can be presented to a grand jury. If it remains classified, you can't give it to the grand jury. The second piece is around the same time, about a month or two later. So that intelligence comes in in May, and then Hillary Clinton on July 5th, 2016 is exonerated. Then that same day, July 5th, 2016, Christopher Steele walks his dossier into the FBI and In mid-July, the intelligence committee intercepted something else. Intelligence showing that Hillary Clinton had personally approved a plan to concoct a Russia collusion scandal against Trump. Not a real one, a fake one, and put it into the system. After getting that intelligence, after John Brennan even briefed the president, FBI opens up on that very allegation and that very evidence, almost jaw-droppingly. the president would have to declassify that intelligence as well. Those two things being declassified would give a running start to a grand jury. It could be done in about a year. I think they could wrap up all the work in a year.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, we only got about a minute left. I just want to give you an opportunity. There's a lot of people watching right now. There's a lot of great comments coming in saying, I need to be following just the news. I need to be following what you're doing. What's the best way for people to do that? And of course, I'm sure as you have been uncovering a lot of this and your team has been, that this story is not going anywhere from your team.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's not. We've got a whole team on it. My Jerry Dunleavy, Steve Richards, myself, just the news.com. My social media is Jay Solomon reports on all platforms. And I have the just the news, no noise television show on real America's voice every night at six o'clock. Those are our best points of contact.
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Awesome. Thank you, Joe. John, it's always great to have you on. Again, it's always good to have people in the news who you can trust, have good sources. And John's always one of those. When we're looking at what we're going to cover for the day, Just the News is one of the first places we go to to make sure that if something's breaking, he's got some really interesting content. I mean, this was broken by his team. It always does great stuff. And we have a packed show coming up. So I want to make sure you stay tuned. Because like I said, today, I really want to encourage you, if you like this show, and there's so many of you watching right now, if you've never seen us before, which I know about half of you maybe haven't, Hit that subscribe button if you're watching on YouTube or you're watching on Rumble. Join us each and every day, Monday through Friday, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern Time. We'll catch us later on. You can watch the re-air. Most people do watch it not live, but I encourage you to be part of the conversation live. You get to get chat. You can call in. Do that. Join us each and every day. If you've never done that before, hit that subscribe button. If you have been a longtime viewer and supporter, know that this show... And the ACLJ in general is not funded by major sponsors or even by major donors. It's individual people like you that can give at one time or can give on a monthly basis. And during these special months like today, during our 35 years of Justice Drive, all donations are doubled. So if you give $10, it becomes effectively $20 because it unlocks another $10 pledge. I'm going to ask you to do that today in honor of this show, in honor of the media we provide to you each and every day. Let's have a big day, a big day to support what we're doing here. Of course, tax deductible. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. Mike Pompeo is joining us right now, Senior Counsel for Global Affairs and, of course, a former secretary. So many things. We've had him on every week for so many years now. It's just great to always have Secretary Pompeo. Of course, we are discussing still what's going on with the ongoing situation with Russia. in ukraine and you think after a few years we wouldn't be having to talk about it but unfortunately we still are but there's been a lot of movement and we discussed this with you will why don't you take the first question here and i want to follow up with you secretary pompeo because we talked yesterday about what are the motives what what's maybe changed president trump's mind somewhat we may have some answers to that we may have a peek behind the curtain if you will
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. Yes. As we were talking with you on air, you didn't really have time to look at it. We didn't really have time to look at it because it was kind of unfolding in real time. And so we got initial first blush reactions. But now that we've had some time, we've also seen that the Russia has said that the ceasefire ultimatum is unacceptable and the tariff threat. And I just kind of wanted to get your thought with their response. And now that you've had some time to reflect on what is unfolding with this new pressure from the president on the Russians.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you're right. We were we were talking the immediate aftermath of the president's press conference yesterday. And now, 24 hours later, we've seen the Russians respond. It's not surprising what they said. They said, look, this is unacceptable. We will never do anything in response to this. That is, we're not going to kowtow to the United States. But the reality is that President Putin will be left with a incredibly difficult set of decisions. he can now see that the Ukrainians are going to be able to defend themselves. That is, Ukrainian civilians are going to die less frequently as a result of the weapons systems that will now be moved into Ukraine. That's going to happen. Second, President Trump has now said, we're going to strangle the Russian energy economy. They've been selling, the Russians have been selling crude oil. President Biden allowed them to do this for Two and a half years during the war to the Indians. So these are American allies. And President Trump has said, we're not going to do that. We're going to put a massive tariff on. We're going to shut down the Russian engine for its economy. That's what funds this war. And so Putin will be ultimately faced with a very difficult decision. Do I press my luck? And do I challenge President Trump thinking he'll back down or do I recognize that this is not a guy who backs down? The Iranian regime learned that Assad in Syria, who's now gone, has learned that they can all see that President Trump is a serious man when he is protecting American interests. And so we will see in the coming days and weeks if the Russians position doesn't soften and they don't begin to understand that they now are facing a really different leader in the United States than they have been for the first couple of three years of their war of aggression.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely, Secretary Pompeo. Hey, I want to tell you all, phone lines are open. We'd love to hear from you in the next segment. So give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. Before I ask you your next question, though, Secretary Pompeo, we had that conversation. It seems like President Trump's mind's changed. What happened here? What is sort of the change in direction that came from dealing with thinking, you know, this could be something that could be settled very quickly to all of a sudden really calling out Vladimir Putin for what he is? And again, yesterday we were able to see, or was this? Yeah, it was yesterday. A little bit of peek behind the curtain. as President Trump had a conversation with his wife, with Melania, the first lady. And of course, this is a bit humorous, but it also is a bit eye-opening to really what we're dealing with here. Because you have President Trump, who is that sort of ultimate businessman, goes in, like you said, negotiates, and maybe will take some people by their word, but learned pretty swiftly, once again, that Vladimir Putin is not one of those guys. Let's hear from President Trump.
SPEAKER 01 :
I'd get home, I'd say, First Lady, I had the most wonderful talk with Vladimir. I think we're finished. And then I'll turn on the television or she'll say to me one time, well, that's strange because they just bombed a nursing home. I said, what? So.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, of course, you know, that's a humorous little aside, but it's just it's true. It's what happens is clearly is President Trump is having these what he thinks are what he thought were productive meetings and conversations with Vladimir Putin. And immediately. And look, I think we saw this in Iran and Israel. We've seen this so many times over, which is people who you're dealing with. This is not your normal business discussions, even in a world stage. Like you said, this is a convincing guy who can lie to your face without a problem.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, no doubt about that. He is clever. He can look you straight in the eye and evince enormous credibility. Three things that come to mind. First, we all talk to our wives. That sounded very heartfelt to me. Second, I think President Trump is someone who genuinely wants to assume the best about people. He he wanted to believe that he would come into office and President Putin would see that this wasn't something that was going to be productive for him and that the cost would exceed the benefits. And to date, that hasn't been true. And so President Trump gave him all the leash to run out. And he's now run that leash out. And I think the line is about to be reeled back in on Putin. And the final thought is this. The combination of economic power and the willingness to sell these weapons to NATO so that they can provide defensive systems to Ukraine is sets the conditions for an opportunity for Putin to reconsider, right? This actually resets the leverage cycle. Make no mistake about it, in my view, if Putin doesn't come to heel, if he doesn't see that a ceasefire is in his best interest as a result of these actions, there'll be more. President Trump is determined to bring peace, to get the guns to go quiet, and he will continue to ratchet up the costs on Vladimir Putin. Whether Putin believes that or not today, I don't know. I believe he'll come to see it if he doesn't see his way towards bringing peace to the region.
SPEAKER 03 :
We've only got about a minute left in this segment, Mr. Secretary. But one thing I also wanted to bring up was that we've seen what President Trump's been willing to do in this this second term. And we know that when he gives a red line or gives you a deadline, he actually means that opposed to we've heard red lines before from presidents, whether it be President Obama with Syria. The red line meant nothing. President Biden told world leaders very passionately, don't. And that was supposed to be a red line. Don't do something or else there'll be consequences. But if even the Iranian situation where he gave a 60-day deadline, 61st day, Israel started bombing. Not saying that we would necessarily use kinetic power on our own, the United States, but he has now set a red line. He's given 50 days. discussion?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, look, we all need to be mindful. Vladimir Putin still, in spite of the failures in Ukraine, still has a nuclear weapons system capable force. So we ought not we ought not forget that. And that's different from some of these other adversaries. But I would I would argue that President Trump isn't different. His determination to bring peace to the region, to stop the aggression from Vladimir Putin is the very same determination that deterred Vladimir Putin for four years and where he didn't roll into Europe. This is so fundamentally different. And so I think the pressure will continue to mount. I don't think it'll be U.S. kinetic in the same way it was in Iran, but there are still many tools in the toolkit that President Trump has available. And I'm confident he'll bring them to bear to deliver on the promises he made to the American people to end this war.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
My question is two-part, actually. One is, with the Democrats, if there was really a scheme with what Kash Patel says, Democrats did a really bad job in 2016 and 2024 propping up their candidates. So, you know, Hillary Clinton lost. Joe Biden, in fact, they ran him. Well, they lost, right? And then my other question is this. Do Republicans with the DOJ have some
SPEAKER 04 :
uh degree of problems with that too just because of um you know they did take over in 2017 and um i am only cutting you off because we are legitimately running out of time i thought that was going to be a little bit quicker when we get back from the break i will make sure we cover your question in in its entirety so we have it saved so thank you for calling david but again we're going to run out of time do this but will this is one of the stories real quick we have 20 seconds left uh there is news coming out and if you haven't seen you should check out our friend john solomon's just the news report uh because right now there are so much so many updates coming in but we will be back in just a moment here and we'll be back with rick grinnell and we're going to answer david's question if you're on hold stay on hold as well we're going to get to you coming up at 1-800-684-3110 if you want to keep david on hold you can we'll be right back Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Rick Grinnell is joining us. I did want to quickly answer a caller that came in earlier. David was asking specifically about will this what seems to be potential or not potential cover up that was going on. Rick, I know he's got a lot to say about that as well, but you want to give him a quick answer.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. So David asked one basically was saying if Democrats were involved in the cover up of what seemed to be an elaborate conspiracy starting back in 2015 all the way to today that we know that based off John Solomon's reporting that the FBI is now investigating this as a grand conspiracy with the likes of Comey and John Brennan. If they did participate in this cover up, they did a horrible job because they selected poor candidates. Agree with you there, David. But that also maybe is why they needed an elaborate conspiracy to try and get them to win. But the second part is that he asked if the Trump officials in 2017 were also involved potentially in some sort of grand conspiracy. Here's what I would say about that. Because we've lived this for a long time. The big early mistakes, and Comey even admitted he capitalized on the incoming green team that was coming in from President Trump. That's why he sent spies in to spy on General Flynn. It's why he leaked to try and get a special counsel. Because he knew he could manipulate the system. So one of the big... unforced errors i think in in when we look back on history is attorney general sessions recusing himself early on a lot of people were scared because comey was coming very aggressively with this russiagate hoax and what we saw was the attorney general said i'm going to recuse myself from this and then it then after comey's leak it triggered a special counsel So that would not have been the Trump team that had anything to do with the Russiagate hoax in that way. So I hope that answers your question, David.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it does, David. Thank you for calling. Again, phone lines are open. Rick Grinnell's joining us right now. Rick, well, I mean, kind of connected. You put out a post on X that said, one thing I know for sure, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel would never cover up a crime. Never. It's absurd to think they would. Of course, not necessarily directly involved with this, but hey, I figured that was a good connective tissue here from that caller. I want to get your thoughts on all that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, look, I think the point stands is that I know Pam and I know Cash, and they would never cover up anything. We're dealing with the Biden administration and all of their cover-ups and their lack of transparency and their political game playing, and we're having to deal with that. And I think that the team that's in place right now is trying to make sure that we go back and really prosecute the people who started all of this chaos in Washington DC by making individuals not accountable. I mean, we know I was DNI and I unearthed a whole bunch of information and declassified other information. And what we tried to do is be very transparent to show that the crowd that was going after President Trump in the very beginning in 2017, and really the end of 2016, that crowd needs to be prosecuted uh they used in intelligence and they manipulated the entire process and so i like having accountability i like going after uh the individuals who i i would say really ruined the trust that many people had in government uh we now can't trust government agencies in a way that we might have trusted them in the past. But when they go after the president of the United States, they make up information about him. They try to call him a Russian asset. And they did it in a way that they abused the courts. They abused intelligence. And, you know, we've known this. And the media is the last group to come around to recognize it. But I want those people to be held to account.
SPEAKER 03 :
Rick, often you say you like it if we take calls when you're on or get messages from the audience. But this is from one of our folks on Rumble that I wanted to bring up to you because it happens to do with your state. One of maybe your elected officials there in the Senate. And that is Adam Schiff. There's now some allegations that he may have read the playbook from Letitia James, who was trying to game the system and get more favorable mortgages by claiming residence in a different state of where she was the attorney general. There's report that there's been a criminal referral or at least an investigation that Adam Schiff may have done something very similar. And we're starting to see this pattern of people that went after the president. that said we're a country of law and order and that no one is above the law. But they seem to use their position to game the system to get more favorable perks or mortgage rates or what have you. And thereby ignoring the law that we all are subject to and should follow. And I just want to get your take on this as Adam Schiff has been one of the loudest antagonist of the president. And now it seems like scrutiny is looking back at him.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, again, as former DNI, I can tell you I've seen the evidence that Adam Schiff is a liar. He lies just to get political gain. He certainly did it with the Russian intelligence. He did it with President Trump. I've seen it. Adam Schiff is an absolute liar. And now what we're finding out is that he lies within his daily life of trying to get a mortgage. What else is he lying about? Because I think he has a real hard time understanding what the truth is because he's so political. He will lie just to help himself get ahead politically. And and clearly that's what he did on mortgages, pretending like, you know, he's. He's not a D.C. resident. He's a California person so that he can run for the Senate and have domicile in a certain place. But he manipulates the process when he's filling out paperwork, lying about what he says publicly. And so I don't know if we know who he is. And I don't know if he's very comfortable with knowing who he is because he seems really comfortable with. with lying publicly and pretending like other people are to blame.
SPEAKER 03 :
Rick, final topic here for you today. I know we're throwing a lot at you, but we always appreciate you being able to bounce from one topic to the other. But this is the news that came out yesterday where President Trump was meeting with the Secretary General of NATO and was announcing the very strategic way that arms can go to the Ukrainians, as well as putting a red line for Russia of 50 days ahead. We've heard similar things with the red line he gave to the Iranians that they had 60 days. And then we saw what happened on day 61. But I just want to get your analysis, your take on this about the president's negotiating tactics. Clearly, he's fed up with the games that Vladimir Putin is playing with the world. And what you think can be the outcome of this Trump style diplomacy that we're seeing play out?
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, within the world of foreign policy, we talk a lot about the importance of having a credible threat, not just a threat. And Donald Trump has an incredible, credible threat. And we know that because our friends and our allies and others Actually understand that when Donald Trump says something, he means it and that he's probably going to do it unless there are some factual change. And the great thing about President Trump is that he's living in the moment. He's watching what's happening. And so he can adjust everything. in real time. And that's one of the things that I love about his negotiation style. But what President Trump has now said is there's 50 days to get this together. And I thought one of the best lines that President Trump used is, the Russians are saying one thing, but it looks like their actions are something else. And I think there's a big frustration because I can tell you unequivocally that Donald Trump wants to bring peace. He wants to avoid wars. And so he's doing everything he can to muscle in peace. And this is now just the latest tactic where he's got to give a deadline. He's got to tell the Russians, you need to be more truthful about what you want because President Trump means business.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, love you guys. Love Rick Grinnell. And Mike Pompeo, too. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate it. And I love President Trump, but I just wish, you know, I believe he's being played by the Russians. i don't know what it is i heard some comment that he said he thought that president putin was a standard guy at one point but he's an evil dictator yeah it just wants to expand russia so the whole point is i'm not happy to hear he's giving a 50-day deadline because he's given previous deadlines yeah i understand look i think that um
SPEAKER 04 :
fully heard from even from mike pompeo is that uh vladimir putin is you don't get to these positions in power if you aren't a convincing person if you're not a convincing liar even and what you've seen is that yeah do i think he's played president trump a little bit i think president trump realizes that that he's not a man of his word we actually saw that in the comment that he made that was kind of off-handed about how he walked in saw melania and said Hey, guess what? Had a great call with Vladimir. It seems like this is going to be over. And she's like, oh, look, they bombed another nursing home. That's kind of funny, but it's really not because what it shows you is you can't play that game. So I understand that, Brian. I understand feeling that concern that President Trump could be manipulated, if you will be. I don't think that's what's happening, but I do understand the concern.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and I think also some of the comments that President Trump will say about his adversaries aren't always like, when he says like he's a stand-up guy, a real smart, you know, a lot of it is flattery. And so that's kind of his tactic that he uses a lot of times.
SPEAKER 04 :
I do think about Kim Jong-un and some of the ways he spoke about him. It was like, yeah, they're not the ways you typically be speaking about this. And we all know that's really not the truth. But
SPEAKER 03 :
If he can bring peace, it looks like he's willing to do it. And the one other thing I'd add to that before we go to other calls is that, Brian, I understand that, yes, it could seem like Putin is doing a delay tactic. But what we did see is that Putin invaded under the Biden administration because they knew they could. Yeah. And they drug that war out for the entire presidency of President Biden because they knew they could. So, yes, maybe they're exploiting deadlines and timelines. But I think that the best opportunity that we do have to end killing of innocent people and war, which no one at the end of the day really wants... we should maybe see how it plays out, because at least it's different than what the previous guy did.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks for calling. Bill's up next in Wyoming. And again, a few lines are open. This may be the last chance to call in. 1-800-684-3110. Bill, go ahead. Yeah, hi.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm pretty sure my monthly donation has finally gotten in by now. I got a what-if question. The fact that maybe the Democrats had finally won the election... Do you think maybe all this information that they're finding through the FBI and about Comey and those guys could have gone the same way as Hillary's emails, in fact, have gone into the ether?
SPEAKER 03 :
i think that it's one it's it's remarkable they had all this and then did keep it but did try to hide it i mean that shows some hubris there they couldn't find any bleach bit right they thought that they would keep winning and so they didn't have to get rid of this evidence uh but i agree with you bill yeah i don't think that it uh we would have ever seen the light of day and they clearly didn't want it to david frost once said well why didn't you burn the tapes it's a good question
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Thank you, Bill, for calling. I think that, look, I think there's don't put anything past anyone in politics on either side of this. Let's go to Cambria, who is a ACLJ champion. So you get bumped to the front in Utah. You're on the air. Thanks again for being a champion.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it's my blessing. And thank you for taking the call. I don't know what the prior conversation was because I missed it, but I have a feeling it might be similar. But my concern is with all the scandal so to speak, over Epstein, it's going to influence, may or may not, I don't know, but it might paint all the other ones they're going through unless they clear that all up. Because I myself, I love Dan Bongino, and I trust him more than Bondi at this point. So they want to win those who agree with that opinion over. They can't skate over it, whether they like it or not.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Cambria. Look, this has been a major PR nightmare, if you will, for that administration, for the administration in general, for whether that's Pam Bondi, whether that's Dan Bogino, whether that's Kash Patel. Now you had Rick Grinnell on here saying, look, I know both of them really well. I can't imagine they would do anything. to cover up we've worked with both of them over the years feel like they're stand-up people so I have nothing bad to say about either of them I will say this was a bad PR move the rollout was horrendous when you have someone going out there saying it's coming any day it's coming any day and then there was clearly infighting then there was clearly remember there was Kash Patel putting out a statement after Pam Bondi said it was coming that it didn't come and then it doesn't exist and then President Trump even saying hey we got to move on from this topic I don't necessarily disagree that there are more important things in America to be talking about. And sure. That was during the moment of the Texas floods. Yeah. To me, that is more important. That's life or death. What's happening right now for the people in Texas. Uh, that is what should be on the top of your mind. But I understand feeling like, uh, you were led astray in that one. And now they're trying to say, no one cares about it. No one talks about it. Look over here. Uh, It shouldn't be something that I feel like dominates our news and really doesn't change the way I feel specifically about Pam Bondi or Dan Bongino or Cash Patel or President Trump for that matter. But I understand that it's one of those moments where you cringe at least at the rollout.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and we know one of the biggest things that Dan Bongino cared about and talked about was restoring the reputation of the FBI. And I think, one, we saw reports that he was back in office yesterday, so it wasn't like that he had resigned. We don't know firsthand what the status of any of that is. But I will say is that from an outsider's perspective, looking at this, that... If his big thing is restoring the reputation of the FBI, that PR blunder definitely harmed the reputation of the FBI. And so I can see why he's upset. Not necessarily what people may think that Pam Bondi is covering up something and won't let Dan Bongino release it. I think it is more that he really believes in the mission that he's there to do. And if that's harmed, then he's frustrated. And I get that.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, let's take one more call. Joy, I know it's a little off topic, but just quickly, we only got a minute left. So if you could go ahead quickly with your question, we'll answer it real fast.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you mean Joy or Julie? Joy, you're on. I can hear you. Okay. I'm wondering why, since the Supreme Court ruled that our president, that the lower court judges cannot interfere with the agenda of the president, they still seem to be doing, the lower court judges still seem to be doing so.
SPEAKER 04 :
And why is that happening? Because they figured out some loopholes. They figured out ways around it. Look, Justice Alito said he even sort of predicted that this would happen because they are changing the ways they are doing their lawsuits.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the individuals when it comes to the birthright citizenship case turned it into a class action suit and the judge certified the class. Now, we'll see if that he went through the process that is laid before in the federal rules. And if he did, then that is technically the process that can happen. But we'll also see if he didn't go through that rigorous process, whether or not it will be upheld in the appeal. But there are class action suits. Those do exist. That is in the federal rules and procedures. So that is one way. That's one way they're getting around it. They're going to try to do it more and more.
SPEAKER 04 :
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Join us for a riveting discussion centered on the New York City mayoral elections, where three prominent challengers vie for victory against candidate Mamdani. With Andrew Cuomo entering the race as an independent, our hosts unpack the potential consequences of vote-splitting among the competitors. Explore their predictions, criticisms, and hopes for the city's future leadership. The episode also celebrates Curtis Sliwa's legacy, reflecting on his transformational role with the Guardian Angels and his unique brand of politics. Through entertaining anecdotes and thoughtful discussions, our hosts reveal the intricate balance of power, personality, and principles that define this race. Beyond the mayoral contest, the dialogue explores broader national issues, like the public's fixation on the Epstein scandal and the implications of media coverage in shaping political narratives. Don't miss this engaging exploration of current affairs, where history, politics, and societal questions collide.
SPEAKER 02 :
And everybody goes, who cares who the mayor of New York is? It's really important. It's the biggest city in America. It's hugely visible. And yesterday, Andrew Cuomo said, I'm getting back in, running as an independent. And I'm going to tell you, that is bad news for Mr. Mamdani, because now he's got three guys running against him, all have some degree of skin in the game. You've got Eric Adams, you've got Andrew Cuomo, and you've got Curtis Sliwa. And there's no runoff. The winner, plurality wins, somebody could win this with 35%. Curtis got 28 when he ran sort of head-to-head against Eric Adams four years ago. It's not out of the question. Andrew Cuomo getting in, I don't think Andrew's going to win. I don't think, I don't know. I think it's bad news for Mamdani. It might be good news for Curtis Sliwa. And so, you know, hey, so I offer you that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. I see it completely opposite. I think you're 100% wrong. You're dead wrong. And let me tell you why. Because all of the analysts, and listen, you could be smarter than all of them, but everybody says all this does is split the vote and give Mamdani a path into the mayoral's office. Because you're going to have three guys who are going to split apart the vote.
SPEAKER 02 :
There's a Mamdani vote and a non-Mamdani vote. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. I mean, there's no way this helps him. There isn't any way. In fact, I'm a little shocked at your perspective. If you've got Cuomo pulling 15% or 20%, Curtis pulling 15% or 20%, Eric Adams pulling 15% or 20%, how do you think that beats Mom Donnie? Then all he needs is 31%. He's going to win it with 30-some percent. That's Mom Donnie.
SPEAKER 02 :
know that it's him? You don't know that it's him? In November. In something about November. It's a long time. A lot of the blue may come off of his rose. I hope it does.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, there to me is a parallel between the New York City mayor's race and the Epstein story, and let me tell you what it is. The only way we screw ourselves is when we screw ourselves. Now, I mean, look at the media now running with Epstein, and they're just loving this.
SPEAKER 02 :
Definitely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Kim Jeffrey's all about it. They're torn. MAGA's tearing themselves apart. Axios, the siege mentality. It's the first time that Trump has gotten a revolt and they're tearing. It's the first time since Trump came down the escalator that MAGA is turning on him. Look at him go. Look at him go. Again, self-inflicted wound on our part. We're doing this to ourselves. In New York, if the egos... of Eric Adams and Chris Cuomo and my friend Curtis, and he is my friend, and I had him on the show yesterday. Look, in a perfect world, Curtis Sliwa is Giuliani 2.0. I mean, he's the best thing that could possibly happen in New York. Are you kidding me? A law and order guy? He knows every inch of New York City, is founder of the Guardian Angels. When I interviewed him yesterday, he reminded me of the Underbelly Tour that he gave me the first night I took over at WABC. He took me under his wing. Curtis Lewa took me under his wing and said, Mike Gallagher, you're the new kid on the block here at WABC. You just sort of ostensibly replaced Bob Grant, which were big shoes for Phil. But that was my big gig right at WABC, and Curtis was a fixture there at the time. He was the perennial fill-in talk show host for every shift. In fact, this is not a joke, he used to sleep on the floor under his desk in a cubicle, and when somebody was out, he would pop up and go in and do a talk show. I watched him in a dead sleep get woken up, walk into the studio, and start talking like he didn't miss a beat. This guy's a machine. Wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
I make myself available for a bunch of shows. I ain't sleeping in the building waiting for the opportunity to... You're a piker compared to Curtis Lewa.
SPEAKER 03 :
But so he was Mr. WABC. So my first day, he said, Mike Gallagher, I'm going to take you to the Guardian Angels... underbelly tour of New York we were in Harlem we went to the Bronx and I mean the Bronx at 10 o'clock at night I mean it was and he's got the bright red beret and I'm thinking we're going down any minute now
SPEAKER 02 :
the guardian angels were the guardian angels were the beret wearing force led by curtis what it wasn't it wasn't a message that said the cops aren't enough or you know not at all it was it was very it's like listen we're going to be the eyes and ears we know you guys can't be everywhere but the guardian angels were on the subways in the neighborhoods there to sometimes call the police or there to sometimes intervene in some non-lethal way to just make
SPEAKER 03 :
Beloved by most New Yorkers. Even though everybody knows Curtis is a rock-ribbed conservative, they still love the idea of helping the police. And look, I think he sleeps with that red beret on. I almost had the guts to ask him yesterday in the interview, if you lost the beret, you think you'd go up 10 points? But I couldn't do it.
SPEAKER 02 :
You told me that a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't do it. That's his brand. That's his brand. I know. I know. I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he's all about the brand. He's very good about branding. In fact, now he's walking around with a Curtis for NYC mayor jacket on. So he knows how to brand. So anyway, and he reminded me, we were, and here's the crazy part about that night where I got to go to the, we went to White Castle and got, you know, what do you call them, gut busters, sliders, gut bombs. I mean, and people are, hey, Curtis, yo, Curtis. And I'm thinking, and I got a tour. And that night, TWA Flight 800 went down off the coast of Long Island. And he and I raced back to the radio station, and we both worked into the wee hours of the morning with that coverage. That was the night that that all happened. That was my initiation to WABC. And Curtis yesterday said one of the kindest things that I've heard. I mean, look, I don't get a lot of kudos. I don't ask for them. I don't pat myself on the back. We haven't even mentioned that I'm number nine on this year's Talkers Magazine heavy hundred list. We don't want to even mention that. I mean, who's keeping track? I'm number nine. But, look, Curtis said, I watched you in action, Mike Gallagher, that night, and I saw you to be the broadcaster that you are. You're as good as anybody in the business. And he just gave me a lot of real nice compliments. And so, look, he'd be a fantastic mayor, but he's not going anywhere. He's a Republican in a blue, blue, blue city. And the conventional wisdom is – and I think you said it, if I'm not mistaken, a few weeks ago – Good luck, Curtis, with that. That ain't going to happen. So, here's what Cuomo proposed. By September, let's look at where the...
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
Three of us are in the polling. Oh. And whoever is second and third drop out and coalesce behind the person who's leading in the polling so that it's a one-on-one.
SPEAKER 02 :
Or if it's Mamdani still leading in the polling, whoever is first among the non-Mamdani people.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Mamdani is the nominee, Mark. What are you talking about?
SPEAKER 02 :
The primaries are over. We're done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, it's a general election between Mamdani and anyone else. So of the three challengers of Eric Adams, Cuomo, or Curtis, let's coalesce. Look, that's the only chance New York's got, because if they don't, they're going to split the vote. And you're saying, I mean, if you look at the math, Mamdani doesn't need that much if all three of them peel off enough votes to split. Do you think that'll be?
SPEAKER 02 :
It's probably not going to be Curtis. Probably not going to be Curtis.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mark, I don't think any of their egos are going to let him do that.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're not going to back down. But just as a thought exercise, between Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo, who do you think will have more pullovers?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, or Curtis Lee. In a perfect world, it would be Curtis.
SPEAKER 02 :
So the world's not perfect, and it is New York. So might it be? Do you think it's Andrew Cuomo's idea, right? And I think it's based on the belief that he thinks he'll be second in the polls. It'll be Mom Donnie, Cuomo, and then Eric and Curtis. And he'll say, look, those of you who are below me, get out so that it can be just me against Mom Donnie, and then I got a chance.
SPEAKER 03 :
If one of those guys is challenging Mamdani, I think one of them will win. If two or three of them are challenging him, Mamdani is going to win. Again, it's going to be a self-inflicted wound because egos are going to get in the way. And Cuomo has as big an ego as anybody in the universe. He declared yesterday he's running as an independent. I'm into it. And it was a lackluster, lifeless message. Who cares?
SPEAKER 02 :
To use your very sound premise, your sort of connection between self-inflicted wounds and needless or unfortunate conflict in what should be a time of harmony and energy for MAGA, you're 100% right, and that's part of what grieves me a little bit. But it's not like these people are wrong. The folks who are clamoring for more accountability, clamoring? I mean, there ain't going to be no client list, guys. Sorry. But for something, just give us something. Throw us a bone, man. They're not wrong. And so what are you, what are we telling those folks? See, that's a good question.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I've got people pulling me, and you're probably getting the same thing. I get text messages saying, please stop talking about Epstein. Get over it. Please move on. We've got big wins at the Supreme Court. Don't look now. The court is letting Trump do what he wants to do with the Department of Education, which is well overdue. huge win there, all kinds of wins, all kinds of accomplishments, and we're missing it because everybody's obsessing about Epstein. But you and I are of the mindset that I'm not going to shut down the way people feel or what they want to talk about. I can't do it. Everybody's talking about the Epstein thing. And your analysis today, and again, I was listening to you, the old Howard Franklin monologue, the old Howard Franklin Bridge, Mark Davis monologue.
SPEAKER 02 :
I take Mike across Tampa Bay every day.
SPEAKER 03 :
You take me, and boy, you ought to see what they're doing to that thing. They're blowing up spans, and they're doing new construction, and it looks like something out of another movie. But I'm listening to you, and I'm thinking, Mark is spot on. I mean, you're right. You have a right to be frustrated, because this is going to not have a satisfying conclusion. And the reason we're frustrated is that we've got so many satisfying conclusions. Look at the border. He got the border sealed in a matter of hours. Okay. Just like that. The economy is turning around. The stock market is soaring. We are respected again on the world stage. But there's not going to be an easy resolution to this. You're so right. If they had any dirt on Trump, this whole narrative that Trump's probably on the list, baloney. They would have used it. Any Republican. Everybody was hanging out with Epstein in the 90s. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, and Oprah. They were all hanging out with the guy. So that's not enough. But again, people keep saying to me, but Mike... If there are all these terrible, terrible girls that were victimized, how do you let all those men get away with it? Well, you shouldn't. But here's a weird question that nobody seems to be asking. Well, some do. Why aren't any of the victims coming forward saying he did this to me or he did that to me? I know, I know, yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Nobody.
SPEAKER 03 :
There's not one.
SPEAKER 02 :
What's up with that? These are all women now. After decades of navigating this, easy to say, hard to do. Easy for us to say. Well, yeah. And then your life gets ruined. Then your life gets blown up. How many flippant victims are we supposed to have? We should be able to fill a football stadium with them. So the story is told. It would seem that there would be a handful who would be willing to say. And I'll tell you, they would be met with empathy. Huge appreciation. And somebody stepping forward to say, I was one of those young girls, and here are six guys who did things to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
That would be unbelievably terrible. It's all unfortunate. And let me tell you the most unfortunate thing of all. Don't shoot the messenger. Don't get mad at Mike. Blame Mark when I say the following. When I say, it's going to blow over. It's going to blow over. It's going to blow over. I give it a week, maybe a couple weeks, but it's going to blow over. And that makes people crazy when I say that. Did I hear you say you're totally right? Of course you're totally right. Okay, I blame Mark Davis for this point of view. Direct all correspondence to Mark Davis at Mark Davis.
SPEAKER 02 :
Definition of blowing over. we're gonna move on there's they're the vast majority well some the mass the vast some folks won't the people that want the clicks and they want the and and look they're not wrong you're right in the in the media influencers clickbait world but i also mean some good-hearted people who love you and love me and and think we're just not talked off enough about this or just you know if we if we were We don't care. We're hypocrites. I know. We're ambivalent about child sex abuse. I love that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that's a good one.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're just frustrated. They're frustrated. And I get it.
SPEAKER 03 :
basis i know bob france filling in first they got this morning said look at look at all the cover-ups from the auto pen to biden's very condition to comey and clapper to who shot trump and why and you know but that's but that's not a donald trump affectation correct that's not that it does not come from trump so to trust the guy he got he's got information that we don't have he's saying move on he's saying don't let's not blow this thing up last thing because we're late
SPEAKER 02 :
What do you mean? He's got information that we don't have. I mean, I think you're generally right about that most days. It's true most days he's president. But what does he know that we are not allowed to know?
SPEAKER 03 :
Huh? How do we know when we don't know? How do I know? You know, if you don't know, you don't know. I mean, that's the point. I know what I don't know. I do know that everyone should blame Mark Davis for saying we're going to move on.
SPEAKER 02 :
At Mark Davis at X. I'm moving on from this segment right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
M-A-R-K-D-A-V-I-S. Yes.
