Witness an episode packed with political intrigue and humanitarian efforts, featuring key interviews shedding light on America’s shifting political landscape. With firsthand accounts from politicians like Congressman Pat Harrigan, learn about the potent impacts of legislative actions on national and global fronts. Explore how America's dealings with foreign powers like Russia and the European Union play into domestic financial reforms, while also uncovering the heartwarming relief efforts in Texas's flood-stricken areas, showcasing the collective spirit of recovery and support.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Doge has spent like $2 trillion of waste, fraud, and abuse over the last 20-some years, $190 billion of cuts that they would like to make through wasted contracts and NGO grants. So this is a chance for Republicans to stand up and do what we said we were going to do. Surely 50 of us can do the right thing.
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That was Kansas Senator Roger Marshall earlier today discussing the rescissions bill now before the U.S. Senate, a bill that would roll back funds previously allocated under President Biden. Welcome to this July 4th and 14th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for joining us. With the 45-day clock running, can the Senate beat this week's deadline to pass President Trump's rescission package? We'll get the latest from Missouri Congressman Jason Smith, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. Also, President Trump is turning up the pressure on Russia, threatening sweeping economic sanctions if Putin refuses to reach a ceasefire agreement with Ukraine.
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We are very unhappy, I am, with Russia, and we're going to be... doing very severe tariffs. If we don't have a deal in 50 days, tariffs at about 100%, you'd call them secondary tariffs.
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North Carolina Congressman Pat Harrigan will weigh in on the Ukraine situation and Iran's curious offer to resume talks with the U.S. as long as the U.S. pledges not to bomb them. Sounds like a non-starter to me. And is the Democratic Party about to self-destruct or remake itself as young Marxist and socialist attempt to wrestle control of the party from what they call the gray hairs that are not radical enough? I'll be joined by the Washington stand's Suzanne Bowdy and Casey Harper for that conversation. And in Texas, the search continues for flood victims.
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We will maintain our operations to search and find everybody that we can, as well as ensure that we're going to rebuild this community from Hunt to Katmistic to Kerrville down below. We are committed for the long run, not just to rebuild, but to rebuild in a better way.
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That was Texas Governor Greg Abbott on Friday. But Texas isn't alone. Many hands are helping. We'll hear from Edward Graham of Samaritan's Purse on their relief work and how you can get involved. All of that and more coming up on this Monday edition of Washington Watch. Well, the House and Senate are back in D.C. this week, and the countdown clock continues to tick away on the rescissions package still waiting to be passed. The Senate has until Friday to meet the 45-day deadline or the rescissions package dies. Now, it only requires 51 votes, so this should be easy. It should be an easy matter. Cutting spending, right? No, it is the Republicans that are uncomfortable with the spending reductions, at least some. Joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Jason Smith, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. He represents the 8th Congressional District of Missouri. Chairman Smith, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
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Great to be with you, as always.
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Well, first, congratulations on being playing a key role in shepherding the one big, beautiful bill all the way through the House and onto the president's desk. Now, it's been 10 days since that passed and it was signed into law. But Democrats are still talking about it and they're still spreading. Well, let's just say false facts. Your message to Americans.
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So the Democrats are doing what they do best, and that's spreading a lot of hogwash. And they're just not being factual when it comes to the one big, beautiful bill. This is the largest tax cut for working families, small businesses, and farmers in the history of this nation. It's also the largest mandatory spending. cuts in the history of our nation. It's the largest one-time investment in border security. It creates the Golden Dome to protect all Americans. It's the largest welfare reforms in U.S. history. It makes the 96 welfare reforms look like peanuts compared to what's in this bill. That's some pretty major wins within this bill. The Democrats will say you're going to cut millions of people off health care. The millions of people, Tony, that they're referring to is the 4.8 million people, according to the Congressional Budget Office, of individuals, able-bodied, healthy adults with no kids. who just choose not to work because we put a work requirement for Medicaid. That is what they're talking about. Plus, there's 3.2 million people that will not be on Medicaid because they're illegals. We're making sure they're not on there. And then there's 1.3 million people that's within it that are currently on Medicaid that shouldn't be on Medicaid because they're not eligible. Those are the people that when you hear the Democrats talk about being cut off the system, those are the people that's being cut off. People who's not eligible, they're illegals, or they're just able-bodied, healthy adults that refuse to work 20 hours a week.
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Chairman, I want you to unpack something for just a moment as you talk about the largest tax cut. I mean, if not, if this wasn't passed, as we've talked about in this program before, huge tax increase. But the Democrats, the left would say, well, you're just taking the money out of the pockets of the working man and putting it into the wallets of the billionaires. Speak to that.
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So I would ask the question, how many billionaires get paid on tips? How many billionaires work overtime hours? That's not the case. The majority of this bill affects people who make less than $400,000 a year. This is a bill, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, tax relief for seniors. huge, huge wins for working families, expanding the child tax credit to $2,200 permanent. That's a huge win for 40 million families across the United States. You could go on and on, whether increasing the benefits in the adoption tax credit to The 199A small business deduction, that helps so many small business pass-throughs to make sure that they have certainty in their investment. These are things that affect working Americans, small businesses. The Democrats are just simply not being honest whenever they say it's helping the billionaires and the millionaires.
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All right, Chairman, final question on the reconciliation, then we're going to move to the recisions. So what's going to be the acid test for the consumers, for the voters, for the people out across America, that as they see this unfold, they'll know who was telling the truth?
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They absolutely will. And what's different about this bill than what happened in the 2017 Tax Cut and Jobs Act is that it's taking effect January 1st of this year. So this year that everyone is in, they have no tax on tips. They have no tax on overtime. And so whenever they file their taxes next spring, They're going to see the benefits of a higher child tax credit, no tax on tips, no tax in overtime, lower tax rates. They're going to see the fruits of those spirits before the next election.
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Good enough. We'll be watching. And there's nothing that you feel more than when you get your check and you see that the government's hand is not in it. That's a pretty good acid test. All right, let's talk about another. Fiscally prudent move initiated by the Trump administration, approved by the House, now sitting over in the Senate. And it's a part of the 1974 Budget Act, which allows for the administration to kind of claw back, if you will, money that was previously allocated. $9.4 billion in this first rescissions package. House passed it. It's over in the Senate. They have until Friday to approve it. But there's some Republicans that are getting a little timid about cutting.
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You know, Tony, we had those same issues a couple weeks ago in the House of Representatives when we were trying to pass the rescissions package. But they got there. This is a very common sense, fiscally smart rescissions that the administration has asked Congress to do. The House delivered. I sure hope the Senate will deliver. um this shows this shows how difficult passage of the one big beautiful bill was um because of these razor-thin majorities in the house and the senate we cut 1.5 trillion dollars in in the one big beautiful bill this is a rescissions package of 9.4 billion Billion. They should be able to deliver on this. I hope the Senate follows through. Hope they get the 51 votes.
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Let's talk just for a moment about process, because under the Budget Act, they have 45 days once the administration submits it. It has to be approved by Friday in the Senate, or what happens?
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Or it would have to be another another proposal. It's within the guidelines they have within the 45 days to do. That's why we acted several weeks ago in the House of Representatives. And they just need to get the job done.
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Are you concerned that they'll do something similar to that they did on reconciliation? They're going to wait to the 11th hour, approve it. After they amend it and make changes, there's some that want to restore funding to NPR, some that want to restore funding to PEPFAR and send it over at the last minute to the House where the House has no options but to approve it.
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Then it likes to do that, Tony. You know that. That's exactly how the nature of the Senate is. But if they amend it, it would only be to decrease the $9.4 billion. The $9.4 billion is a very common sense rescissions package. The administration, I expect them to send more rescissions to congress that congress needs to act but this is a very basic one i think they should be able to deliver on it but it would not surprise me tony by any means if they would amend it at the last hour and then pop it over to us on thursday
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Chairman, just got a couple of minutes left. Over the weekend, President Trump said he would slap 30 percent tariffs on goods imported from the European Union beginning the 1st of August. They met today. They are discussing their options in terms of a response or a negotiated settlement. Your thoughts?
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Well, the European Union needs to be a good trading partner. Their non-tariff barriers that they put on U.S. products, U.S. agriculture products is absolutely unacceptable. And let me just give you a couple notes. OF THE COUNTRY OF HONDURAS, 10 MILLION PEOPLE. THEY PURCHASED MORE PORK FROM THE UNITED STATES THAN THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN UNION COMBINED, WHICH HAS A POPULATION OF NEARLY 450 MILLION. THE POOR AFRICAN NATION AT PURCHASES MORE CHICKEN FROM THE UNITED STATES THAN THE ENTIRE EUROPEAN UNION COMBINED. AND WHY IS THAT? THESE NON-TARIFF BARRIERS THAT BASICALLY ELIMINATE OUR U.S. FARMERS FROM SELLING THOSE AG PRODUCTS IN THE EUROPEAN UNION. THESE ARE REASONS WHY THIS ADMINISTRATION IS LEVERAGING THESE TARIFFS. THEY WANT THEM TO OPEN THEIR MARKETS FOR OUR FARMERS, OUR MANUFACTURERS, AND ONCE THEY DO THAT, those tariffs will definitely go down.
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Sounds like a level playing field.
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That's exactly what we're asking for, is to make sure our farmers and our manufacturers are treated fairly on the world stage.
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Chairman, as always, great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today. Have a great week.
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Thanks, Tony. Always good to see you.
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Chairman Jason Smith, Ways and Means Committee, chairman from Missouri. When we come back, North Carolina Congressman Pat Harrigan joins us to talk about the latest White House announcement concerning the war in Ukraine. We're also going to talk about Iran's offer to restart talks if we promise not to bomb them. Don't go away.
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Perhaps, I think it's definitely a inflection point in the conflict, but I don't know that that inflection is actually moving our strategic interests forward. I think that President Trump has negotiated what's really a fantastic business deal for American defense companies. I don't know that it changes the overall strategic trajectory of American strategic interests vis-a-vis Ukraine. I think that this has really turned into a quagmire. I think we all understand that this conflict is not one that President Trump started. It has fallen to him to finish. And he's tried to finish this conflict in earnest. But a very recalcitrant Vladimir Putin simply doesn't seem like it. It's in Russia's best interest to end this conflict, and now that requires a different American response, which I think President Trump is very understanding of at this point in time, but certainly it's an incredibly dynamic situation.
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Well, you use the word quagmire, and I don't think any American, at least not very many, want to get sucked into another failed military engagement where we do not have the political will to finish. But there's economic levers. The president making reference to sanctions in the Senate. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina, introduced really steep secondary sanctions on those who buy Russian oil, trying to put the squeeze on them. Really kind of a model that was utilized with Iran back when President Obama was in office that brought them to the table to negotiate over their nuclear program, at least initially. Do you think we can get to where we need to be using the economic levers?
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I sure hope so. And I think the president certainly hopes so, too. I think there's a difference between 100 percent tariff on Russian goods and actually sanctioning their bread and butter that drives their economy, that fuels this war effort in Ukraine, which would be sanctioning their fuel. So far, that is something that Europe has been unwilling to do because it will increase their per capita costs for energy, both cooling in the summer and heating in the winter. I think that's something that the president should push 100 percent here because at the end of the day, if you want to starve Vladimir Putin's military, you've got to cut off their revenue stream. Gas and oil is the way to do it.
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Well, and a lot of this is connected to China. They have their shadow fleet that they're selling a lot of their oil to China, and that's where they're making a lot of their money.
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There's no question about that. And if you look at what President Trump did by allowing China to continue to purchase Iranian oil, I think we can only come to the determination that that is to actually continue to put pressure, downward pressure on the price of Vladimir Putin's oil and his gas as well. And so, look, the president is taking a very wise, full spectrum approach to this. We unfortunately are just in a situation where, as we learned at West Point, the enemy always gets a vote. And just because you want to end a conflict does not mean your adversary wants to end it. And we have to be responsive to their decisions.
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Right. And we're not really a party to it. We're just trying to bring about a resolution. We just have about a minute, two minutes left. You mentioned Iran. Let's talk Iran for just a moment. Intel coming out suggesting that the strikes there were pretty extensive, more information coming forward every day. Iran now saying, you know what, we're interested in talking. You know, we want to have some conversations again, but we want assurances that it's not going to end up like it did last time. You're not going to bomb us, basically. I mean, that should be a nonstarter. We shouldn't agree to any terms. They don't have any leverage over us at this point.
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That's right. I mean, between the actions that President Trump took, sending B-2 bombers over there to set the nuclear program back by a number of years. And let me just state for the record, too, after going through the classified briefing, the end state of my receipt of that briefing was, Tony, I was proud to be an American. We got some incredible guys that did some absolutely incredible things on the ground over there in Iran. We got in. We got out. Israel has obviously been effectuating their own strategic outcomes in Iran. And America and Israel have been working together to create the scenario that we have today, which is Iran actually wants to come to the table. And that's exactly what President Trump was trying to accomplish. And so, no, I think we hold all the cards. There should be no preconditions to this discussion moving forward. to the negotiations. And I don't think President Trump is the type of leader that is going to acquiesce to that anyways. And so I think we're in a really good place with Iran right now, and we should continue to be and make sure that they are not a nuclear-armed power moving forward.
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Speaking of that, Congressman, just a minute left. What's the sense of how much their nuclear plan program has been set back? Are we talking months, years, decades?
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I think it's in years. And also understanding from a cultural perspective, just a practical perspective with how Israel was actually able to systematically pick apart and eliminate their senior leadership, completely infiltrate their government from a source perspective. They have to question any movement in that direction moving forward in the future.
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Scared of their own shadow, I would think. Yes, 100%. Congressman Pat Harrigan, always great to see you, my friend. Thanks for joining us today.
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Great to be with you, Tony. Thanks for having me.
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All right. Have a great week. All right. Coming up, more heavy rain hit flood ravaged Texas over the weekend. Edward Graham of Samaritan's Purse joins me next to share about their relief efforts.
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Thanks for tuning in to Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Well, just nine days ago, after the flooding in and around Kerrville, Texas, killed at least 129 people, the devastated area was hit again yesterday with heavy rains, hampering rescue efforts, recovery efforts. As with many disasters that happen here domestically or internationally, Samaritan's Purse has been working to assist victims and show the love of Christ to those who are hurting deeply after this tragedy. Here now to share more on what they've been doing in Texas is Edward Graham, the Chief Operating Officer of Samaritan's Purse. Edward, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for taking time to join us.
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Hey, Tony. Thanks for always having us on. I appreciate highlighting what's happening in Texas.
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Well, this one's getting a little more attention, and the attention is staying focused on it because of the tragic loss of life of these young girls. But you were there on the ground last week, and Samaritan's Purse has been there almost since the water first started to recede. Give us a sense of what you saw there.
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Yeah, you know, the destruction is unbelievable. And as you said, there's so much hurt and pain there. There's a lot of brokenness. So right now, if you're people that are watching, you have to pray for Texas. Remember to pray, have your families praying. Nothing we say or even our volunteers that are out working, mucking out homes can do is really gonna solve the problem of their hurt and brokenness. But prayer will. And so that's what I ask your viewers to do. But what I saw is, a very narrow channel path think of like a tornado path that just came through and it's mostly just to the river valley is where the destruction is but it's unbelievable it is you know they've never seen destruction like this they're used to flash floods out there but not to this level not to this height there's people there that didn't have they're in areas where you would never think to have flood insurance because you're that high and that far away from the river But it came that far. You're talking to homeowners and this one lady was telling me, you know, she heard a gurgling noise about four in the morning and she looked and she saw water under her door. And she said within seconds her bed was in the air and her head was hitting the ceiling. They didn't have time. But there was no one there angry and talking about you hear the politics of the early warning, not having early warning. That's not what they're talking about. They weren't angry about that. They are just hurting for their neighbors, and I saw Texans helping Texans. They're getting after it. There's heavy equipment, skid steers, excavators everywhere, and volunteers out serving. Texas is a wonderful place, and they're loving on one another.
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You mentioned how rapidly this water rose in a very narrow place coming down through the Guadalupe River. Is that similar to what you saw with the flooding in North Carolina after the hurricane?
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Yes, sir. You know, Helene happened. It was a little later in the morning and we watched the water rise up in daylight. So a lot of people were able to see the water get to higher places. The thing with Helene, it was widespread. It took over all of western North Carolina and it was every creek, river and valley flooded. From what I saw there, yes, there was other areas that had flood damage, because if you're not familiar with the hill country of Texas, it's very rocky. That water has nowhere to go, and it goes down these old washes into the Guadalupe River. But in this case, it was mostly funneled into the Guadalupe River, and that's where all the damage was predominantly that we saw. I saw a couple other areas, but nothing like Helene, and just, I would say, the rapid rise of it was faster in that part, even than it was in Carolina.
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You know, having gone through a flood like that, and ours was slow in rising, so you had time to respond and make a decision and get out by boat. But in the middle of the night, when you're disoriented anyway, because you're asleep and all of a sudden you see water coming up like that so rapidly, There's very little warning that could have been done to alert these folks to this.
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There was very little warning. I need to be careful. Those people that live in parts of North Carolina where it did rise, there's places that entire communities were destroyed. Asheville, on the backside of Mount Mitchell, it was rapid. Every storm's different, but to the person that lives it or the people that lost, it's horrific. I'm very careful when I talk about and compare storms. Everyone's different and everyone has their challenges.
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So let's talk about responding. As you mentioned, prayer, number one. In fact, so many families all across the nation touched because of the camps that they were there. There were kids from all over that were at these camps. So we're praying. In fact, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick had challenged our viewers and listeners to pray for 30 days. Keep praying because the pain is going to be ongoing of the loss. Let's talk about work that Samaritan's Purse is doing on the ground and how folks can be a part of that.
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Yeah, you know, people always want, what can I do? How can I get involved? And we've already talked about prayer. That's what I always ask for first. But if you would like to volunteer, we definitely need like day laborers, people that can come locally because our actual volunteers to sign up and overnight are booked for a couple of weeks. And that's good. And I appreciate that. But we're not going anywhere right now. We're doing muck outs and mud outs. We're cutting back debris. We're mudding out the homes, we're taking the drywall, we're cutting it back, we're spraying the solution to prevent the mold from going in there. And so there's several homes that we gotta do. There's some trailer parks that washed away, but we're gonna help with rebuilding as well. So for those people, we're looking at people that even lost their cars we're looking at people that lost their mobile homes or stick built homes we will work there we already have assessors for that part of the rebuild on the ground matter of fact the community that you're just seeing that i was in that we're muddying out right now we're actually going to set up a tent in that community in a neighbor's yard and we're going to start going through and assessing where people are as far as their insurance and non-insured and underinsured and we're gonna help get people back in their homes quickly. There's some camps that we'll help out with as well. This will take a while. This is not something that's gonna be quick. No rebuild is. But at the end of the day, I do ask your volunteers to stay engaged. If your listeners wanna get involved, I'm gonna need volunteers for a while. So when the news cycle moves on to something else, just remember, Texas will still be hurting, and Samaritan's Purse will need your prayers but the volunteers.
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SamaritansPurse.org. And I know for a fact that Samaritans Purse will stay there until the work is done long after everyone else has left. Edward, always great to see you. Thanks for joining me, my friend.
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No, thanks for having us. Remember, the reason we go is to tell them and love them, tell them the story about Jesus Christ and what Jesus did on the cross.
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Amen. Edward Graham with Samaritans Purse. Check out the website and help if you can.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Just to follow up on that last segment with Edward Graham. You know, there are a lot of there are a number, I should say, of ministries that are out there doing relief work, different religious denominations. And I applaud all of them. The reason I have Samaritan's Purse on so often is because I've worked with them many times in my home state of Louisiana. through floods, hurricanes, and they're some of the best. They are well-organized, and if you volunteer to work with them, you will have no wasted time, no downtime. They're heavily organized, and they do a great job. SamaritansPurse.org, pray, you can give, and you can go. SamaritansPurse.org, highly recommend them. I've worked very closely with them many times. Also coming up October the 17th and 18th. Go ahead and mark your calendars now because it'll be here before you know it. The Pray, Vote, Stand Summit. All right, we're doing something different this year. We are going to Southern California. We're actually going to be at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills in Chino Hills, California. Pastor Jack Hibbs will be hosting us there. We'll be there October the 17th and 18th. So we're taking Pray, Vote, Stand on the road. Check it out, prayvotestand.org. Go ahead and register now. Our word for today comes from Luke chapter 12, where Jesus addresses a fear that often hinders believers from fully experiencing the life God intends for them. And I say to you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have no more that they can do. But I will show you whom you should fear. Fear him who, after he is killed, has power to cast into hell. Yes, I say to you, fear him. The fear of man is paralyzing. When we fear people more than God, we surrender to cultural pressures and we compromise our convictions. Jesus reminds us that earthly threats are temporary, but God, he holds eternal authority. That misplaced fear has consequences, as Jesus continues to say. He says this, For whoever confesses me before men, him, the Son of Man, also will confess before the angels of God. But he who denies me before men will be denied before the angels of God. The fear of man leads to the denial of Christ. But reverent fear of God empowers boldness, integrity, and eternal reward. Whom we fear determines whom we follow. So choose wisely. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. Well, as I was talking about earlier in the program, this week the rescissions package is set to hit the Senate floor. And as I mentioned, if it's to be passed by the deadline, it has to pass by Friday. This package calls back billions of dollars in federal funding that have been going to public broadcasting, foreign aid and various woke priorities, some of them in PEPFAR, as we talked about last week. But will Senate Republicans be able to overcome opposition within their own ranks? Well, joining me now to discuss this is Suzanne Bowdy, editorial director and senior writer at The Washington Stand, and Casey Harper, managing editor for the broadcast at The Washington Stand. Suzanne, Casey, thanks for joining me today on Washington Watch.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. Let me start with you, Suzanne, because, you know, we've been hearing a lot from celebrities, pop stars and even Christian influencers about PEPFAR, the presidential the president's emergency plan for AIDS relief. Give us an update on the status and what's at stake this week.
SPEAKER 18 :
what's at stake is 9.4 billion dollars in savings as you outlined just then and a lot of those savings are coming from aspects of this program that are absolutely woke and unnecessary and what we're hearing surprisingly even from conservatives or republicans i should say not conservatives and some members of the church is that this is really threatening life-saving care in africa which is absolutely not true In fact, on the contrary, what it's threatening are the woke programs. A tiny, tiny sliver of PEPFAR is what's included in this rescissions package, about $400 million, which is only about 5% of the program. And these are aspects of PEPFAR that the African countries themselves have objected to over time, very pro-abortion, pro-LGBT, cultural imperialism. that the Biden administration instructed PEPFAR to start including when he was in office. This is just clawing back that and respecting the African nations who say, look, we come from a value system that supports life, that supports natural family. We appreciate all of your lifesaving care, your health treatments, the education you've done in our countries, but we'd really like to stick to the mission at hand. And unfortunately, we're seeing some people like Senator Susan Collins from Maine who are saying, This is terminating the entire program. Absolutely not true. Nothing in the rescissions package would terminate PEPFAR. This is a haircut, as you've said in prior episodes, and not at all threatening the program at large. It will continue. And unfortunately, for the country that puts no stock in the media's credibility, they seem to be taking the headlines seriously that this is going to really impact PEPFAR's mission, and it's not. It's actually going to return PEPFAR to the mission at hand.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, folks, we've got more on this on PEPFAR, but let me go ahead and give you this. PEPFAR, text PEPFAR, P-E-P-F-A-R, PEPFAR to 67742, because you need to weigh in on this like right now, because the Senate's going to be taking this up and amending it. I want to unpack a little bit more about what Suzanne had to say because, Suzanne, I dug into this last week pretty deep because this goes back to 2003 when I actually came to the Family Research Council. So this is one of the benefits of longevity is that you can remember these things. Well, most of the time you can remember the things that happened. But this was initially introduced with an annual allocation of $1.5 billion. billion dollars a year. And this was to address an emergency mainly in the Caribbean and the African continent dealing with AIDS. Well, it has ballooned to where the allocation last year was seven point one billion for the year. So it's grown tremendously, but along the way, it's lost its mission focus, and now it's promoting abortion, LGBTQ priorities. And as you mentioned, this is just 400 million out of 7.1 billion. It's not even 6%. And I mean, how the Senate Republicans, not the Democrats, the Republicans are opposed to just dialing last year's allocation back. Less than 6%. This is crazy. And I applaud the Trump administration and Russ Vogt over at the Office of Budget Management that is actually driving this. This is, as you said, a small, small baby step in getting this program back to where it originally started. I would add one caveat to this, Suzanne, and then I'm going to go to Casey, that the original plan, it was called an emergency. It was designed to hand this off at some point to those nations where they, through training and helping equip them, could take this over. We need to get out of this business. We need to help and we need to leave.
SPEAKER 18 :
and we need to stop listening to people like Bono who are spreading lies and start listening to the African people.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can you repeat that? Can you repeat that?
SPEAKER 18 :
As a former YouTube fan, former, emphasis on the former, yes, we need to stop listening to these people spreading lies and actually be intellectually curious enough to look at the bill, look at the language, and look at what Trump is trying to do. We need to be listening to the African people. You know, in 2023, when Biden started making these radical changes, One hundred and thirty three leaders from Africa, mainly religious leaders, wrote to Congress and said, hey, look, you guys need to back off from this woke stuff and get back to helping. They don't want it. No, they don't want it. Yeah. Fifteen countries were on that letter. And who are we listening to? We're listening to people like Russell Moore and Bono and Susan Collins, who obviously haven't read what the president is trying to do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, first off, people need to read the bill and they need to look at the track record of PEPFAR. And we actually have documents on that. We tracked it. It really, really got off track during the Obama years and then the Biden years. But I'll also add another Christian celebrity who has been out there. I guess she's still considered in that genre. Amy Grant. Actually, one of the first concerts I ever went to as a kid in high school. But that beside the point, she's out there. Many of these Christians are saying, oh, this is the compassionate thing to do. No, it's not. To fund abortion, to keep the, I mean, a program that is $7 billion a year that promotes most values that are antithetical to biblical teaching, that's not Christian. That's not compassionate. OK, I got to get off my soapbox. Let's move on. Casey. All right. A Democrat super PAC united the country, released Unite the Country is the name of the super PAC, released new polling. Tell us about this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sherman, this is a mammoth poll. If you're working in Democratic politics, you've got to be talking about this poll today. A couple things about it. One, as you mentioned, it's a Democrat poll. And it's pretty critical of Democrats. And so this is not, as we get into it, this is not like a far-right poll or some GOP poll that's saying negative things about Democrat. It's coming... It's coming from their own mouth. So that's important thing to note. Secondly, this is polling people in battleground states, 10 battleground states, 21 battleground counties. And so these are the coveted swing state voters. We talk about them ad nauseum every election year. And so here's the question, what did they say when Democrats asked them? Well, they didn't say nice things about Democrats, it turns out, even though Democrats were asking them. So for instance, with white men and Hispanic men and really just working class voters, their approval rating has dropped down to below 35%, which is a number, it's really hard to come back from that number, Tony. So below 35%. But I'm not sure there's any wonder. I mean, you just had some lawmakers on talking about it. But the Democrats just voted against no tax on tips. They voted against no tax on overtime. You know, I used to work on a survey crew. and with, you know, construction guys. And overtime is a very serious deal. You cannot touch someone's overtime. And getting a lot of overtime is like getting a refund. So I think there's a little bit of out of touch with the working class.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the good news for Democrats, though, with an approval rating that low, they can pick up the profession of used car salesman and actually make an improvement. Right. Not to offend any of our used car salesmen who are listening. You're not getting overtime if you're a used car salesman.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's true.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's true. So let's unpack this a little bit more. Is the Democratic Party on the verge of imploding? Because you're seeing now these Marxists, like we have in New York, and then we have a lot of young people who are saying, you know what, I'm not waiting for these gray hairs to get out of the way. We're taking them out. And they're coming with a very—I wouldn't even use the term progressive. I mean, it is Marxist, socialist— Can the Democratic Party survive this?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, that is I think they're asking the same question right now. You've seen a few things happen over the recent months. The November election really, you know, when Trump's first win was earth shattering for the Democratic Party, it caused a lot of introspection, a lot of reflection. How could this happen? They did a lot of talking. They put Biden forth because they thought he was kind of a working class guy and it sort of worked for a little while. But that was just a stopgap measure because the Democratic Party has deep, you know, like subterranean problems. And it's twofold. One, they've built the party now on identity politics, and they built it on far-left economic policies. And the identity politics half of the party was totally rebuked and just pushed back and voted down by Americans in November. You know, Kamala Harris in a lot of ways was a diversity pick. Biden said as much and she was rebuffed. And, you know, people like Joy Reid, who are spewing a lot of racism on TV every night, they lost their show. And so now the party is a little bit aimless. They have an identity crisis. And so they're reaching out for the other half of the party, which is far left sort of Marxist economic policy. But it's very aggressive. It's Mamdani. It's AOC. It's Bernie Sanders. It resonates with young people. But the average American is just not ready to go that far. And for good reason. And so I think this is a good opportunity for Republicans to restate their identity.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, but I think it requires them to be anchored to transcendent truth and unchanging priorities. And that requires a party platform, which is where I think the Republicans went wrong in the last Republican convention. Suzanne, I think we've seen this on full display, even within the Democratic Party structure. David Hogg being ousted, he for wanting to go after in primary Democrats that he didn't think was progressive enough.
SPEAKER 18 :
And I think the Democrats have spent a lot of money on autopsies and strategy meetings and focus groups to find out why they lost in 2024. And they're ignoring all of them, which say you're woke, you're weak, you're out of touch. And instead, what we see is that they're just, as Casey said, aimless. And really, at this point, I mean, this isn't about finding better messaging, crafting better messaging, finding better activism. They really need to find out what their policy goals are. Right now, there's no agreement on which direction the party should go. And that means there's an opportunity for Republicans to create a clear contrast by emphasizing those things that Americans care about, the common sense things about life and human dignity and marriage and not having boys and girls sports. This is an opportunity for Republicans as much as it is a criticism of Democrats. But in the short term, Democrats can run on the Trump derangement syndrome. That's going to be really helpful for them. They have Trump for another few years, but after that, the party's really going to have to grapple with, where do we go from here if we don't have Trump to beat around anymore? Right now, the party is about 35 percent optimistic about their future, down from 57 last year. That's a huge drop in confidence in the party, and a lot of it is because they have no direction. And once Trump is out of the way, I really don't know what they do if they don't come back and sort of have a reckoning within their party to move to the middle.
SPEAKER 10 :
Casey, you just have about a minute left. What's the risk for Republicans during this time as Democrats are trying to find themselves?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, sometimes Republicans get in a political bubble. And so when Democrats move far to the left, you know, they know these Democrats and they say, oh, there's a new center. And so the center moves to the left. And so they feel a temptation to move to the left themselves. But they're actually doing sort of the opposite of what they should do when when people like Mom Donnie question things as fundamental as, you know, taxing based on race or property rights. This is the time to make the case as a Republican Party for who it is that they are, you know, property rights, rejecting world politics, you know, traditional values, that kind of thing. And if they do that, I think they could be successful.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, Casey Harper, Suzanne Bowdy, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 18 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, folks, and text PEPFAR to 67742 and weigh in. That's PEPFAR to 67742. Until next time, keep praying, keep standing. and keep voting when you have the opportunity.
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BREAKING: Kash Patel Opens ‘Conspiracy’ Probe.
SPEAKER 06 :
we got breaking news kash patel opens brand new conspiracy probe keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome. It's Monday. It's time for Sekulow. I'm Logan Sekulow. Will Haynes is joining me in studio. CeCe Howell is going to be on later. Mike Pompeo is going to be on later. We've got a packed show. And of course, we want to hear from you. That's at 1-800-684-3110. Give a minute for all the people to start working their way onto our live feed here. Again, if you don't watch us live, we do this each and every day, Monday through Friday. From 12 p.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern time. Work your way back from there. We do have some breaking news. And again, this is Monday. We are live. I want to make sure you know this. Even during the summertime, we're coming at you live. Phone lines are open, as I said, at 1-800-684-3110. But, well, people may have seen the headline. If they're watching on YouTube, watching on Rumble, breaking. Kash Patel opens conspiracy probe. Brand new conspiracy probe. Let's break down what that is because, obviously, it's been a maybe contentious time. For Cash and for Bongino and for Pam Bondi, a lot of people that are in the news, a lot of our friends here. But in this moment, you just had President Trump say he's very unhappy with Vladimir Putin. There's a lot going on. But this is one that kind of is slipping by as this new probe has been open really to search for what feels like a pretty broad problem.
SPEAKER 05 :
conspiracy that's right this comes from John Solomon at just the news John Solomon been on this broadcast many times great reporting out of John Solomon and this headline is FBI opens grand conspiracy probe on weaponization opening door to special prosecutor so one I know people are probably like oh not another special prosecutor but what is interesting about this is we talked last week about John Brennan and James Comey, that there have been criminal referrals handed over to the FBI from the CIA on Brennan and that the FBI themselves were looking at Comey. And one of the big cautions were that many of the things that we would think that would be looked at would be outside the statute of limitations when they committed an alleged crime, if it were all the way back in 2015, 2016. What it looks like the FBI, at least based on this reporting, is looking into is that it wasn't isolated incidents. So, you know, false document filings that happened on X day, but that their behavior was a part of a broad conspiracy by former and current deep state actors, if you want to say, or former government employees or officials. that we're conspiring against one political party and trying to benefit another political party in our elections. Now, a lot of you are probably saying, okay, yeah, we've seen it. We know that that happened. What makes this different is that if it can tie together under a conspiracy banner, things that happened back in 2016 that shows this ongoing effort. Then you look at the former Intel leaders letter that John Brennan spearheaded saying that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian in disinformation, misinformation, and then even things that happened in the 2024 election. If they can tie this together that this was an ongoing conspiracy, it would open up the door for them to use those things as evidence against this conspiracy before a grand jury, which would allow them to potentially move forward with prosecution. But it's also a search for the...
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theoretical smoking gun here if there is that information that's accessible to the american people something they can actually put out that will be the question that will be whether we actually get to that point if you get to the point where you actually can say here's exactly what happened here's what we're doing at least that's more information to the american people i think why people seem a little disenfranchised with this kind of news is because it does feel like like you said another special counsel another person to be thrown in here another report another dossier But if they think they have the evidence to showcase to us, fantastic. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Maybe you have some ideas of who should be that special counsel. Saw a lot of people floating around some ideas over the weekend.
SPEAKER 05 :
There was someone that wasn't at the Turning Points conference that a lot of people pointed to.
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Someone that had to jet out kind of quick. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. 3110. We are celebrating 35 years here at the ACLJ during our 35 years of Justice Drive. We'll talk about that a little bit more with some news of the Planned Parenthood case coming up very shortly. Welcome back to Sekulow. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 as we are celebrating the ACLJ's 35 years of justice, 35 years of justice drive right now. It's fundraising drive. Every donation that's made, there's another ACLJ supporter, ACLJ champion ready to unlock. their donation there's a lot of you who just joined us during the break we're able to watch that it's really one of the best parts of being on a platform like youtube or rumble is being able to live watch when people come and go so we know you know if we're talking to the same group people new people we can tell there's been a big bump just in the last minute as people have been joining us during the break so i want to make sure we do a little bit of a restating of what's going on because you may see that breaking news item and say hey what is it the cash patel and the FBI are doing, so they're opening a new conspiracy probe. Will, this is sort of a catch-all, if you will, going back for the last decade and covering some of the big issues we've all been talking about to see if there really was this, you'd say, master conspiracy that was going on.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. So what this would be looking into, and once again, this hasn't gone before a grand jury, according to the reporting yet. So they are looking into this case.
SPEAKER 04 :
This came from Just the News, who are friends, John Solomon. We've had him on the show so many times. And look, there's a lot of questionable news sources out there. John and that team usually does a very good job. So we are always... you know we can't say with 100% certainty it's not our reporting but we are pretty confident when they put out a piece like this that they have done their due diligence as well as whenever John Solomon puts out a piece it is so thorough that you're like okay I had to read it like three times exactly you
SPEAKER 05 :
You sit there and you're like, okay, the New York Times doesn't even write pieces this long and thorough anymore because, well, for obvious reasons. But what we're seeing here is that under Kash Patel, the director of the FBI, that the FBI has opened a grand conspiracy investigation into years of alleged political weaponization against Republicans by the DOJ, FBI, and intelligence agencies. This goes back even to the way that the Hillary Clinton email scandal was treated through things like the Hunter Biden laptop, Russiagate, the special counsels being appointed. It's going to be a catch-all investigation looking into whether there was this conspiracy within people in the intel community and Justice Department to try and tip the scales in elections towards Democrats over Republicans and President Trump. There are some other things out of this reporting that are they're saying need to be declassified to get to the bottom of this that could actually help boost the case before a grand jury. Two of those things are a classified annex case. to the inspector general's report on the Clinton email investigation. That's where we got a public report. But there's this classified annex that Senator Grassley has been trying to get for years, which typically senators like Senator Grassley are able to get those things still hasn't been able to get it and get it into the public. But then also you have the Clinton intelligence plan that special counsel John Durham on the Russiagate investigation brought up that has also still never been declassified. And there are things within that that many people think if once it's in the open and could be used for a grand jury. could really boost the case that this is a broad conspiracy. This wasn't one action by James Comey or John Brennan way back in 2016. It was an ongoing effort utilizing their intelligence sources and backgrounds to go after one party over the other and try to fix the election for Democrats in the United States. Not once in 2016, but again in 2020 and even in 2024.
SPEAKER 04 :
That was a very just the news answer. Well, you know, I thought it was appropriate. It was. This is your shout-out to John Solomon. Yeah, I like him. Let's go take a phone call. And phone lines are open for you also at 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to Julie in Oregon who's got a question or a comment. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hi, guys. I have a couple of comments. First of all, wow, 35 years. Congratulations, you guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're so blessed to have you.
SPEAKER 04 :
I really appreciate that. Thank you, Julie. It's been most of our lifetime, which has been, you know, it's life's work, so we appreciate it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Secondly, with regard to overall conspiracy, I think, oh my gosh, it's about time. I'm certainly hoping that all of this stuff will be linked together. Many of us feel that it has been and that it's about time that it finally gets put out there and I'm going to be very happy about that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, Julie, I think there is that thought, Will, we talked about it, but just whether they can actually get it to the point where you, Julie, and our listeners and supporters will feel confident in whatever the final report is. Are they actually able to find those, as I said, proverbial smoking guns that tie all of this kind of together and really can... expose what we all believe is probably happening and what happened over the last decade but you know it's sad to say this I can see in the comments there's not a lot of there's not a lot of good morale happening right now right well this department and they need a good win here this could take time if you were to look at things that President Trump was elected on this would be one of them obviously the Epstein release was a big one of them
SPEAKER 05 :
They can't afford, I feel like, as the Department of Justice and the FBI, what they ran on was to restore faith in the institution. And a lot of people within the more base, the more MAGA crowd, have kind of become disillusioned with the jobs of some of these kind of superstar heroes that they were seeing as put in these positions because of the Epstein stuff last week.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
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this Avengers crew they can't fail on this if they and the caution also is that building this grand conspiracy whether that be some sort of seditious conspiracy charge or a Rico charge The U.S. government, as of late, has a pretty poor track record when going after RICO charges and prosecuting RICO cases. If they don't have this buttoned up in a way that they can secure a conviction. Because you know what people don't see as accountability anymore? Because it's not. An indictment. Indicting someone is meaningless at this point. If the deep state continues to win by getting off on charges, by being able to get something lesser than full accountability, the base will lose that last little bit of faith in the institution that may be there and the hope that... that it can be rebuilt. So while this report is encouraging to us because we've lived these scandals and these Russiagate issues and things for 10 years now. Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything until it does. Exactly. It kind of has to get there. They can talk about an investigation all they want, but unless they are able to fulfill that promise, but once again, it has to be there. Don't want to talk about it. I say why not? They have to have these clear violations of law. We don't just want people locked up for no reason. But we see the reason. We know it's there. If they can prove it in court and can get it done, though, I think that will go a long way to restore the trust in the institutions as well in these people that President Trump put there to lead it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and the reason is you. All right. We're going to take some phone calls coming up. Let's see if we can get these... cleared can we make sure we see if we get them up there make sure i want to i want to continue this conversation because in the next segment cc how from the aclj is going to be joining us we're going to talk about a big update as a court has moved forward and we'll discuss that in our planned parenthood case it's exciting time here at the aclj again it's monday it's 35 years of justice drive we're halfway through the month you got to be a part of it let's go to vince who's calling in florida on line one you're on the air good morning how you guys doing today
SPEAKER 10 :
Doing well. Good. I have a question about the 51 intelligence officers that signed off on the FISA warrants for the Russian collusion, which we come to find out was a big hoax. Is anything going to happen to them?
SPEAKER 05 :
So Vince, I think there is a little bit of conflation in two stories. One, the 51 intelligence officers, that number specifically relates to the letter, the open letter that was sent about the Hunter Biden disinformation laptop story. But yes, there were intelligence officers and individuals that pushed and put forward the FISA warrants. A judge would have signed off on that and a judge did. One of the biggest miscarriage of justice in this entire story, which once again shows that they're favorable treatment to deep state actors, was that one of the individuals that was signing affidavits and things of that for these FISA warrants to try and get the FISA warrant was a CIA analyst. that modified documents. So effectively lying before the court took off portions of the evidence they were putting forward that would have made a judge say, no, you cannot get this and made it seem worse by selectively editing this to ensure they would get a FISA warrant against Carter Page. That was a criminal act and he got a slap on the wrist. When someone used a secret court where you were not allowed to defend yourself, someone entrusted with upholding the Constitution... Lied on a FISA warrant and able to get that warrant to surveil an American citizen, do espionage on an American citizen, all for the point of making sure Donald Trump isn't elected. That is election interference. That is an attempted coup trying to overthrow the norms of our elections and governments. And that person got a slap on the wrist instead of going to prison, as he probably should have. So that is the issue there. At that point, nothing will happen to him. But this broader conspiracy could go after those that were around him, those that were his leaders, in order to finally see justice served in this American tragedy that we've been living for almost 10 years now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, phone lines are still open for you. We're going to get to Lynette coming up next, next segment. CeCe Howell is going to be joining us. Go to ACLJ.org right now to support the work. We'll be right back. We've got a lot of you watching right now. A lot of people are just joining us. We're able to see that live because of our YouTube and Rumble feeds when people are watching live when numbers spike. So I know a lot of you are curious about what this Kash Patel conspiracy probe is coming out of the FBI. We're going to continue that conversation here in just a minute. So stay tuned. We did want to pivot just a little bit because we are in our ACLJ 35 years of Justice Drive. And that is an important time. It's also my brother's birthday. Jordan's birthday. So you know what? If you want to give, you can give on behalf of my brother today for his birthday. Not quite sure how old he is. I think we've all lost count a little bit. But you can celebrate his birthday by making a donation to the ACLJ, and it will be matched by one of our great ACLJ supporters and ACLJ champions. Will said it's also Bastille Day. Right. And clearly, according to the comments, it's also people are very stunned that I have a haircut. Yeah. Which, I get a haircut every few months.
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People do that.
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Every month, maybe? I just have very long, you know, flowing locks. It grows very aggressively.
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It does.
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You have good genes.
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It does.
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I mean, I'm not mad about it, but people are asking for my barber. I mean, look, something's got to keep private in your life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. You don't want to share the barber. Then how are you ever going to get an appointment? I mean, it's hard for me to get an appointment now.
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I know. You'd work me in. All right. Thanks, Sean. All right. We got a lot of comments coming in, a lot of questions, but let's talk a little bit about the work of the ACLJ because you may have heard last week, we talked about that Planned Parenthood case where they were like, hey, you can't defund us with the big, beautiful bill. We're going to take this to court and take it to court. And guess what? The ACLJ gets to join up in this battle as well. CeCe, I'll let you take it from here a bit on where we are right now and what just happened.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, and it shouldn't be shocking that they took it up in court in Massachusetts because we've been saying all along, let's watch Massachusetts. It is a pro-planned parenthood, pro-abortion state. And that's where a lot of the fights are going to be. And that's where one of our fights is right now with the campaign that the state of Massachusetts is doing against pro-life pregnancy centers. And so now we have Massachusetts as the venue once again, where Planned Parenthood chose to come after the big, beautiful bill and the fact that it defunds money, cash, going into Planned Parenthood's pockets. And so the judge there, which was an Obama appointee judge, and it's the same, of course, it's the same court that we're in in our case in Massachusetts. It's a different judge. But we were able to file in this an amicus brief in this case, and the judge granted a temporary restraining order, which means... that Planned Parenthood can continue getting its funding, that the big beautiful bill can't do what it's supposed to do right now. So she granted that temporary restraining order. Immediately then, the government came back and said, wait, you didn't follow all the rules when you granted this TRO. Surprise, surprise. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
A judge giving a different set of rules for Planned Parenthood than anyone else. But yeah, continue.
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. Abortion distortion again at its peak. finest and so she doesn't follow all the rules so the government complains and so what does she do she goes okay I'm going to withdraw it but then I'm going to reissue it trying to comply with all the things you said were missing in my first order so that's what she did she's reissued she withdrew it and then she reissued this temporary restraining order now in on July 18th there is a hearing on a preliminary injunction which of course is the actual case that's going to decide whether this case can go forward or not and um the temporary restraining order is something that just temporarily rejoins it so we will on the 18th have a hearing and we will be watching that of this month next week that's right four days yeah And we will be watching that. And the TRO expires on the 21st, so the judge has to give her opinion by the 21st, and we will be watching. I'm sure if she doesn't rule correctly, the government will appeal, and the ACLJ will be there.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is a question for you, and this is just me asking a question of a regular person. A lot of times these situations seem like they take years.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 04 :
And forever. And it goes on and on and on. What makes this different to where things are getting done in days and weeks instead of years? Right. Because people have been hearing, look what we just had with this probe. It's like, you're talking about going back a decade. Right. Most people who file a lawsuit, you know you're in for a three or four year journey. Not that this won't get there, but the fact that it's this quickly moving. Is it just because it's the president and it's the big beautiful bill? Or what is it that gets us there so quick?
SPEAKER 02 :
It's because they're doing a temporary restraining order. So that's something that's an ex parte order that does move it very quickly. And so, yes, this will still be probably years in the making, but these are things that can happen right up at the beginning of any kind of lawsuit. You can ask for a temporary restraining order, which can be put into place without any hearing. That's what it is. It's an injunctive relief. ex parte which means outside of a court hearing and then the preliminary injunction comes next and that's what will happen on July 18th and then we'll see if it's enjoined or not and then the case goes forward like you're saying it will be a lengthy case.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right and it's this Friday July 18th and that's why it's so important for people to support the work of the ACLJ on an ongoing basis because you never know when these type of issues are going to just pop up and we have to be able to jump into action. We never thought Massachusetts was necessarily going to be the battleground state. I think we've probably done more in Massachusetts in the last year than we've maybe done in our entire career because it seems like, like you said, they've zeroed in on that being the place they can go to. And now what we've heard, though, is from the people of Massachusetts. The people from Massachusetts say this does not represent even who we are. Even us more liberal Democrat union members, all of the things, liberal Catholics, they're saying, hey, this is going way too far we're still pro-life community here and we're happy to kind of rally around the people of Massachusetts as well not just who's you know controlling the government not just the judges there now we've had some success with the judges there so I'm not laying any uh bad words towards them but this has become clearly a friendly state uh to not only just have open abortions however you want whatever you know no restrictions but to go after people who are pro-life
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and CeCe, to that point and why it's always an uphill battle is this case. Once again, Logan asked why it was so quick that we're getting to this point. Remember, the Supreme Court tried to put a limit on nationwide injunctions. Planned Parenthood got a little clever with their filing and filed in Massachusetts, but on behalf of their entire organization. So effectively getting a nationwide TRO, which they are hoping turns into a nationwide injunction that affects the entire organization of Planned Parenthood, giving that instead of just the Planned Parenthood of Massachusetts filing in their individual capacity. They're on there as well. So they had that backup plan just in case. But they went to a judge thinking it would be a friendly court to get what would be in effect a nationwide injunction, while the language of the TRO and injunction wouldn't have to say applies to everyone. They can say applies to the plaintiff. uh but we're also seeing that this judge is doing a little bit of shell games with when the uh the administration pushed back said okay fine you just told me what i need to fix i'll dissolve it like you asked here's a new one with all these things fixed and one of those things was they didn't require planned parenthood to put up a bond the judge then said okay now they have to put up a bond 100 The court filing for the ACLJ to submit our brief was more than that bond Planned Parenthood had to put up. So we know that there is some bias there.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Clear bias towards the abortion, you know, people in Planned Parenthood always. And it's abortion distortion. And we see it over and over again. And now in the state of Massachusetts. And so the ACLJ is watching it and we will be ready.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. We're at it once again. Look, we only have one minute left here in this segment. We are going to continue on talking about the FBI probe. We're also going to have Mike Pompeo joining us a little bit later. We're talking a little bit about the war in Russia and Ukraine. As you may have seen, there's been some updates with that. President Trump getting a little more aggressive towards Vladimir Putin. What's that look like? And we're going to hear from Pompeo about that, as well as taking your calls and comments at 1-800-684-3110. As we head into this break, again, my brother's birthday. Help celebrate with him. a great time to give to the aclj these months are matched which is awesome but it's also we are celebrating not just 35 years of past but what the next generation is going to look like moving forward we have some big big plans we really could use your help so i encourage you go to aclj.org let me know in the chat if you've given during this 35 years of uh justice drive you have no idea how important it is to me uh and how amazing it is to see all of you we'll be right back 30 more minutes we also have just a one minute break keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo and now your host logan seculo welcome to seculo second half hour coming up and we got mike pompeo joining us in the next segment we're also going to take your calls and comments you heard about this fbi probe and well i think we need to give a little restate for people who just join us some people just check check us out in the back half Some networks carry the back half of the show later on in the day. Right. So maybe you're just now hearing this and you haven't heard the first 30 minutes of our broadcast. If so, welcome. Like maybe you're in the Los Angeles area. You're listening on the radio. In LA, we air the first half hour because I was just there a few weeks ago. The first half hour airs in the morning for morning drive. In the second half hour, they air. So when you can drive home with this, you can go with this. We're at the bookends of your day. Yeah, coming and going. All right. So- Let's break down what's happening here in this, we put quote unquote conspiracy probe that's coming out of Kash Patel and the FBI.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. So just the news with John Solomon is reporting that the FBI has opened this quote grand conspiracy probe on the weaponization of the Department of Justice, the intelligence agencies, as well as others against a specific political party and candidate. trying to influence US elections in favor of that. There are other things that we haven't even discussed that there could be a part of this, such as the fact that the FBI had reports and credible evidence that China actually had an influence campaign with mail-in ballots in 2020. FBI had evidence of this and then they what did they do they did not investigate and actually told field offices allegedly to destroy the evidence that they had about this scheme so there seems to be this long line and years-long conspiracy is what the FBI is looking into starting with the the way the email scandal with Hillary Clinton was handled the way the Russia gate scandal unfolded and was weaponized against the then sitting president of the United States, the way that this 2020 revelation where China was trying to influence the election with fake votes was never investigated, what impact that may have had, whether it went forward, that that was just not even looked into, as well as things like the special counsels, the ways that they tried to influence the 2024 election. So they're is almost a decade-long conspiracy that they are looking into whether or not members of the government and former members of the government conspired against someone to influence elections through fake intel, through biased intel, things of that nature. So we don't know what stage they're at. this hasn't gone before a grand jury yet, which is when indictments would come forward. But we do know that there were rumblings even last week because we know that John Brennan and James Comey are under investigation as well. Is this a part of this? Is this a way also that they could get outside the statute of limitations for things that happened in 2015 and 2016 and still charge these individuals with crimes related to that with a broader conspiracy or RICO type charge?
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Hopefully then you got like a good overview of what we're talking about here. I do want to take some calls quickly before we go to break because Lynette's been on hold for a while. She's a CLJ champion. Champions get up front. Lynette, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you for taking my call and happy birthday and God bless you. And I am, I'm wondering, I'm so excited. I consider that this conspiracy probe is an answer to my prayers. I still have a 2016, 2020, and 2024. It's supposed to be bumper sticker, but I keep it on my refrigerator because I keep it in prayer. My question is, is there a way that we can, in addition to praying, can we treat this as similar to a Crimestoppers situation where people are asked to contact Cash and his team if they have some
SPEAKER 04 :
Like a tip? Yeah, I think, look, I think you can always show your support. There's a lot of ways you can do that. We'll get involved in that in the next segment. I'll give you a little bit of update. In terms of actual tips and things, if you're internally, there are ways I'm sure that they can do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, the FBI has an electronic tip line. You can go to tips.fbi.gov if that's what you're interested in, Lynette. Obviously, that's not an ACLJ webpage or anything. That's just the way they have open tip lines.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think you'd probably be surprised how much goes through there, Lynette. So, sure, get involved however you can. phone lines are open again at 1-800-684-3110 we appreciate you being an ACLJ champion we'd love you to become an ACLJ champion that's someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis and right now your first donation will be doubled during our 35 years of justice drive give right now Mike Pompeo coming right up Welcome back to Seculo. Mike Pompeo is joining us right now. Secretary Pompeo, it seems like there has been some movement, some tides that's been changing from the Trump administration. Look, someone who I know you've spent time in Ukraine, you've seen what it's like on the ground. Of course, heading into... this past election there have been definitely a lot of dissent a lot of people who are concerned about where america should be aligned in terms of russia and ukraine you've been pretty uh focused on where it is it seems like president trump is kind of coming around to your point of view as well which is after dealing with vladimir putin and what it actually looks like once again including those comments where he said hey i thought he was kind of a stand-up guy and mean what he said i mean that's a paraphrase uh and then he's bombing people at night um so clearly not and he's announced some big plans including major tariffs and also getting much more involved in the military efforts in Ukraine. So I wanted to get your point of view as someone who's been kind of preaching this for the last few years to maybe finally see the conservative world start leaning towards your point of view.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, it's great to be with you. Look, I saw the president's statements today. I think he gave Vladimir Putin every opportunity to bring peace. And Vladimir Putin rejected that. It's classic President Trump, right? We all want peace. We hate wars. We don't want people being killed. And President Trump gave Vladimir Putin a chance to avoid that. And now he has said, look, we got to do everything we can to make sure that the Ukrainian people can defend themselves from this onslaught. He said, you know, Putin would say to one thing and then bomb at night. That's not something you trifle with with President Trump. I think the Iranian leadership can see that. So I think this is actually very consistent with putting America first. America has a deep interest in seeing Vladimir Putin not succeed at stealing European land through aggression, through war, through conflict, through the war crimes he's committed. And both the tariffs that he's proposed, that's 50 days, basically Labor Day of this year, if Putin doesn't cease doing what he's doing. And then his commitment to saying, sure, we will be happy to sell more Patriot missiles to NATO and they can distribute them in Ukraine, fits perfectly with the president's campaign promises and fits really well with America's interests as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why do you think the tide had turned a little bit? Why do you think not, not now? Now I think you're going to see people getting on board with president Trump's plan, but it did feel like, and maybe it's just the, the length of this conflict that the American people, and specifically, I guess you'd say in that sort of mega crowd and some of the influencers, some of the podcasters, They seem to, you don't want to say flip-flop, but they seem to certainly move either away from supporting Ukraine, and then some even felt like they were more supporting what's going on in Russia. Do you feel like that that's just clickbait, essentially, that they were doing that? And when you actually get into it like President Trump has, you see what's really going on?
SPEAKER 01 :
So I think some of it's each. I think some of them didn't know and it was clickbait. They were going to do whatever got them attention. I think for some of them, they they wanted because they were good people and they wanted they wanted to believe that Vladimir Putin, too, isn't as evil as he is. We've seen this with previous presidents. Right. who he just fools them. And I saw him up close. This guy's just pure evil. And they wanted to hope for a better. I think the reality has become clear. I think some of them didn't trust President Biden. Sign me up for that, by the way. I thought President Biden failed to deter Vladimir Putin and brought this war on by some of the things he did and said, the fall in Afghanistan, his statement about a minor incursion might be OK. And so they didn't want to get behind what they saw as President Biden's policies. And then they they didn't remember the central premise, which is that There is evil walking the earth. It is manifested in folks like Vladimir Putin. And without America standing astride to deter him from going after American interests, the world becomes a chaotic, dangerous place for Americans. And so I think, unfortunately, Putin will see what President Trump did today and probably not take it seriously enough. I suspect we will have to actually deliver on some of the commitments President Trump made today, but I'm hopeful. after those commitments had been delivered on, that Vladimir Putin will see not that America is good or he's changed his ways, but he will just see that the cost for him is too high. Take it more seriously. He'll take a different path.
SPEAKER 05 :
One thing that I think is interesting is that after years now of seeing the way that President Trump does business with foreign leaders is that it's not what more isolationists want. It's not what more interventionalists want. It's his own style. I think we can say that that is is now has been on display for a long enough time that it shouldn't catch people off guard. The fact that, you know, we're what, six months into his presidency. He started with what he always tries to start with talks. And then he goes for things that people would have never necessarily thought would be different carrots or different sticks that we see today. He is announcing that Vladimir Putin has 50 days to get to a deal or he'll place 100% tariffs on Russia and trading partners. This is one thing that I don't think that many, and I don't know directly how much trade we do with Russia. Yeah, we were discussing that. With the trading partners, that can make it very interesting. But this is more of a novel concept, I think, using something to try to bring someone to the table that we maybe hadn't thought of. And basically, is he about to get... uh some people that wanted us to go full on into the Russia Ukraine conflict maybe become a fan of tariffs I'm just kind of interested in what your take is on using novel things to try and get people to the table
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, look, I think you're right. He has a very unique way of delivering on his foreign policy. I certainly observed that when I was the Secretary of State. We were unconventional in so many things that we did, whether it was what we did in the Middle East with Abraham Accords or moving the embassy, recognizing Golan Heights or how we deterred Vladimir Putin during the first term. Right. When you drill, baby, drill and energy prices go lower. a huge burden on the Russian economy and constraining and deterring for Vladimir Putin. So I do think I think you're right. He is unconventional in that sense. You know, the sanctions, the tariffs he's imposed. We put a bunch of sanctions on Russia during the first term. A tariff and a sanction when used in this way are very similar economic tools. It's not sending the 82nd Airborne. We're not sending a Marine Division. We are using the best of American power to defend American interests wherever he may find them. And if there's one thing you can say for sure about President Trump in his first four years and now in his next first six months of this term, he is going to always do the right thing by the American people in securing our interests around the world to make sure that we have a robust, capable economy and we're safe and more prosperous and peaceful here at home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Secretary Pompeo, you've been in those rooms also. Like you said, you've dealt with people like Vladimir Putin. And again, I think there's always a misunderstanding when someone says, hey, there's evil. But it doesn't mean these people aren't smart. A lot of times that they are able to accomplish their goals because they can be both evil and brilliant at the same time. And I think you have a situation where we kind of conflate the two in America. You start saying, you know, it even happens on the right and the left. It's like you start calling people names. dummies, you know, whatever it may be. And you go, no, no, no. If you got to this position and you're able to do what you're able to do, even if it's evil. And by the way, I think it is. That doesn't mean that they're not playing 4D chess, if you will, that they're not many steps ahead of you. So you have to be careful with that. And there's a big obstacle, clearly, with Russia to wanting to have any kind of peace deal with Ukraine. And some of that is their own pride as well, because it felt like this should have been something that was over so many years ago in terms of Ukraine just rolling over and dealing with this situation because Russia had... created this vibrato to be this. I mean, I've spent time there many years ago. You've spent time there. This is not a small country. This is not something to not take seriously, especially when they have some of these tendencies.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. Look, you got to make really good points. I remember when I said about two and a half years ago that Vladimir Putin was a smart, savvy guy and I was savage for being a Russian asset. We should not underestimate him. He's a nuclear capable nation. There's real risk associated with this. He is not dumb. He is cunning and savvy. He made a mistake in invading Ukraine. His military didn't deliver, but he is regrouped and will always continue to try to deliver for the things that he cares about. And so it requires a counterparty like President Trump to deter him from that idea that he can actually achieve territorial gains through aggression. But that requires hard power, soft power and real leadership. And President Trump has demonstrated he's prepared to do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Secretary Pompeo, thank you so much for joining us. And always, of course, we are celebrating this ACLJ 35 years of justice drive. We couldn't have incredible voices like Mike Pompeo on this show without you because no one has that kind of analysis. It really is a wonderful thing to be able to hear from these people. And you may not agree with them. You may not agree with Secretary Pompeo. You may not agree with some of our other team members that we've had on here and commentators we've had on here over the years. Of course, we're talking about Eric Grinnell. We're talking about Tulsi Gabbard, people that are so directly involved and have very different points of view. it doesn't matter you're hearing from people who have been in the trenches have been there that doesn't happen on any other broadcast to this level where you could have 10 minutes right there to break down what's going on russia with someone who's been staring across the table from the guy who actually has seen it who's actually been there and we always think that's important look we're always looking for new people to join as well if you have a suggestion throw it in the chat right now who would you like to see as a new commentator here on seculo can reach out preferably not someone who's currently in the administration that becomes a little harder i don't think they would leave their position within the government to come uh be on the broadcast but you know stranger things have happened you know uh put put in a comment and let me know who you'd like to see you never know who we could add to our roster because i always want to make sure you're informed phone lines are open for you and we don't have any calls right now i'm just gonna be honest we have thousands and thousands probably our biggest show in a couple weeks of people watching right now but no one's called in Phone lines are open 1-800-684-3110. I want to hear from you. Maybe who your suggestion is. What do you think about Russia, Ukraine? Maybe this FBI probe, whatever it is, or any thoughts that you have that are in the ACLJ world. I'd love to hear from you right now. Give us a call, even if it's just to say hi and thanks. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Seculo. We are screening some calls right now, but there's still three lines open. Let's try to get these up fast. 1-800-684-3110 because I want to hear from you. A lot of comments are coming in. Who you'd like to see join our team, be part of the ACLJ and part of the Seculo commentary group. We've got some good suggestions here. Some of our friends, like Ben Ferguson, those guys. Obviously, a lot of them have been on the show many, many times. We appreciate that. There's some interesting names that have popped up as well. Someone said Dean Cain, Superman. Well, you know, that's a name I'm looking through here. Mel Gibson. You know, I don't know if I can, Mel Gibson and I, Denzel Washington. I mean, there's some big, there's some big gets here. I think some of these would be difficult. Some people say, hey, if Dan Bongino was to leave. Come join us here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. I don't know. I think he'd go right back to his show, which was doing very well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Pretty well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, you know, there's a lot of good ones coming in. So I'll keep watching it. I'll see what you guys are suggesting. I'm taking it for real. Someone just said, is this prerecorded? No, it's not. You can tell by the haircut. Because I just answered your question on air. This is not prerecorded. Some people are asking about this specific case still because they're just joining us live. So, Will, I'm not going to ask you for the four-minute version. Give me the 20-second version. Give me the 30-second version. And then they can go back themselves up. All right, I'm going to time it. I'm going to go for it. I've got a stopwatch here.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, you ready? I'm ready. All right, so it appears the FBI is investigating the actions of former intelligence leaders, Department of Justice leaders, and others within the government for a broad, grand conspiracy dating back to 2015, even through the most recent investigation election where they were using their influence and intelligence to try and tip an election away from one candidate to another therefore interfering with u.s elections that's what they're investigating hasn't gone to a grand jury yet how long have i gone
SPEAKER 04 :
That was 31 seconds.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
I was watching a timer. That's called cheating, Will.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, it's called using the tool set you have, Logan.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Why'd you have me time it? All right. Let's take some phone calls. Let's go to Robert in Florida with an interesting suggestion. Robert, go ahead. Steven Seagal. All right. You think Steven Seagal should be sitting in with Steven Seagal?
SPEAKER 05 :
Is that because we need a pro-Russia voice? You know, Under Siege? Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Do you do Under Siege? Is that Steven Seagal? Yeah. It is, yeah. Just making sure. You know your films. I know Steven Seagal. I don't know Steven Seagal.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's a bold claim. I know. He lives in Moscow, right? He is now a Russian citizen.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's a resident, and he has his own version of martial arts that's so deadly, he cannot practice it anywhere because it will kill you. I love that. I love that. That's incredible. Thanks for that call. I'm not making fun of Steven Seagal, by the way. I know that he lives in Russia, and I don't really care for that whole part of it, but he made some good films. I was more of a Van Damme man, though. Jean-Claude? I hope so. Right. I don't know if there's another. Rob Van Dam? You like Rob Van Dam? I mean, you were that as well. I'm a fan of all the Van Dams. Let's go to Bobby, who's calling in New York. Bobby, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, from Niagara Falls on the American side. American side. There you go. My question is, whatever happened with the Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi thing? He was going to leave unless she was fired. What's the latest there? And my suggestion for you guys to bring on the show, he might be too controversial, is Mark Levin.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't think too controversial, but he's got a good gig as well. Doing well. Doing pretty well. I don't know if he needs to be on the show, but you know what? What do they call him? The Great One? They do. Yeah, the great one with Hannity. You know, Sean's a good friend of ours as well. In terms of the Bongino-Bondi thing, although that was rumored, no one has made a statement.
SPEAKER 05 :
There has been reports as well as we know that Dan Bongino, at least according to the reports, kind of left the office for a few days, maybe thinking things over. One, politics in D.C. loves a scandal. And they love conflict. And so that's obviously going to make a big story. Now... What they're trying to, in some circles, make it seem like is that Dan knew that they had this information and Pam Bondi was blocking it. From my external analysis, I think it's more about the complete mess up of the way that the PR around the Epstein things were happening. In reality, they should have never done the binders thing. They should have never said it's on. Pam Bonney should have never said it's on my desk. And now people will say that we're trying to cover for the administration and whatever. But at the end of the day, also, if you let's go to the basis of the theories around Jeffrey Epstein. Let's say that he did have they the FBI did have all this evidence and they just weren't prosecuting him. They weren't releasing it. President Trump wins in November and the entire team that he's putting in place that he's announced are saying they're going to release all this information. If we believe that there's bad actors at the FBI and deep state actors, do we think that would still exist? They're just going to leave it there? For them to then release? No, of course not. So they may not have the evidence at the FBI. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It doesn't mean it isn't something that the American people should know about. But I think that the pile on is overblown because really it was a big PR mess up. And in reality, we know he was a bad guy. We know that a lot of the stuff that he was in prison for was because of his own personal actions, not just the blackmail schemes or things of that nature. We also know that he got favorable treatment of the government with non-prosecution agreements, a nice house arrest kind of situation several decades ago.
SPEAKER 04 :
How did we get here, Will?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, because he asked about... That's what Dan Bongino and...
SPEAKER 04 :
Did someone text you and say we need four minutes of Epstein-Connor? That wasn't four minutes.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was two minutes. And I just said, I think that's what people are focused on is that there was this blow up. President Trump put out and said, look, my team is solid. We're going to move forward. And also, those things that people wanted may not have existed in the way they thought they did when this team got there in the first place. All right. Let's go to Fred.
SPEAKER 04 :
Line six. Line six. You're on the air listening on the radio. We only got about a minute. Fred, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
in 30 years so i kind of know the russian mentality uh uh i am an american um we have a little bit of an unintended consequence of not allowing ukraine to uh attack into russia that unintended consequence is that putin is emboldened to continue this war Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think you're saying trying to get him to the negotiating table needs to be a little bit stronger of an action coming from Ukraine. Fred, thanks for calling. I appreciate your comment. Let's try to get at least to one more. We'll try. I don't think we get to two. Let's go to Anthony first in Oregon. Anthony, go ahead. Sean, stay on hold. We'll see.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, I just want to say that I'm an American who just happens to be black. I support Trump 110%. While I would want the Epstein evidence to come to light, it's not something that I'm torn up over. And make no mistake about this, the real MAGA base... they're not turning on Trump over this. They're not turning on Trump over this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Anthony, I do think it's a lot of social media, you know, just kind of blah. People say that. I agree with you. Let's go quickly to Sean. Sean's calling on line two. Sean, just get to your question real quick, and we'll do our best. Okay, thanks, guys.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so Pam Waddy... in the past screwed up this whole thing with Epstein when she was working at the AGM in North Florida. So every book that people were involved with that got up with a slap on the wrist, even though they knew that they were guilty. Now the same exact person is in a higher position and once again, she's
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, Sean, I am only cutting you off because we're running out of time, and I believe you are calling us from the inside of a water slide. But other than that, you're asking, do we think she's done a good job so far? I do. I think Pam Bondi is a really smart person. We've worked with her before many years. Of course, there's always going to be issues. You're never going to 100% agree. And that was one of those blunders. We've talked about that. uh we're saying it was on my desk and what that meant and how that all worked and all that all came out uh you know what that's gonna happen in politics not defending but saying i do think she's a smart person would be is great for this job uh this is just one of those uh you know kind of unenforced errors that happens in politics hey 15 seconds left that's 15 seconds for you to join us here at the aclj during our 35 years of justice drive do it right now scan the qr code go to aclj.org if you can be a part of it we'll be back tomorrow another show
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Thanks, Kim. Always glad to join you.
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It's good to have you. And this inch by inch, there's different things people really need to do regarding their financial freedom. But it's also important to plan for things after you pass on, right? It is.
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And I appreciate the opportunity to talk about that. I know when you think about financial planning, one of the last things you think about is what to do with those assets after you're gone. And as I shared with you and your listeners last week, my mom passed away last Saturday and it was somewhat unexpected, but one of the things that she did, and it was a gift is she had her estate plan in order. And I was so blessed by that because you're already grieving. And the last thing you want to do is, have to deal with that at the end. And just imagine all of that emotional and legal havoc that you can cause without having your financial plan and your estate plan in order at the end. So I was grateful that she had that in order.
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Well, it really is a gift to one's heirs to have all of that in order. It's not that much fun to really think about it, to think about your death, but it is, as you say, it's such a gift to your heirs to have all that taken care of. So Jodi, with Mint Financial Strategies, how do you help people make sure that you have all that in place?
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Well, and it is interesting because obviously we don't do estate plan directly. I'm not an attorney, but we are a comprehensive financial planning firm. And so one of the things that we do as we're talking to our clients is we do make sure that their beneficiaries are updated. And as you talked about, it's just baby steps along the way with inch by inch. And so that's one of the things that I'm always going to address with my clients. And when you talk about freedom and personal choice, estate planning is one of the most direct ways you can exercise your personal rights. Because if you don't have an estate plan, you die intestate, and pretty much the state is going to decide. So when we're sitting down with people, it's going to be one of the questions that I ask. And if you don't have an estate plan in order, I'm going to give you some recommendations or suggestions on how to get that done.
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Well, that is really important to have all of those things buttoned up. And again, I know my listeners and myself, we certainly are sending you our thoughts and prayers as you're going through this grieving period with your mother's passing on. How can people reach you, Jody Henze? I know the first appointment's a complimentary appointment. And so what's the best way to reach you?
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Yep, you can text me at 303-285-3080, or you can check us out on the website, which is mintfs.com.
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And again, that number for Jody Henze and Mint Financial Strategies is 303-285-3080. Jody, thanks so much. We'll talk with you next week. Thanks, Kim. Bye-bye. And these sponsors that I get to work with, I really recommend that you reach out to them and give them your business because they are excellent at what they do. Another great sponsor is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. They can create a personalized insurance plan to cover your needs from protection for your cars to your home, condo, boat, motorcycle, business, and renter's coverage. Contact the Roger Mangan Team now at 303- 795-8855 for a complimentary appointment. Like a good neighbor, Roger Mangan's team is there.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice on an independent station. Let's get right to it here with Patty McKernan. She is the GOP chair of Congressional District 6, and that's primarily Arapahoe County. And there's a very important summit that is tomorrow evening. Patty McKernan, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim. Well, election integrity is really, really important. And we've been told that we have the gold standard here in Colorado. However, as you know, our listeners and supporters contributed money to get two lawsuits filed filed. The first was with United Sovereign Americans. They're changing their name to Unite for America. And that lawsuit is going to be amended here shortly. And that basically says that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards as set forth by Congress. And that lawsuit's out there. And then with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, a lawsuit that in the last election on a very targeted list, 14,500 people that should not have voted in the 2024 election voted in Colorado. So I don't think we really do have the goal standard. And you've got a summit that you're highlighting that's going to talk about some other things as well, Patty.
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Yes, yes. So tomorrow night, 6.30 p.m. We'll have it live in Arapahoe County and live stream. All of the details for the location will be released tonight. And we are bringing in three people that have spent an enormous amount of time looking into elections. Ever since 2020 when we started flooding the mailboxes with ballots and mail-in ballots became the thing because of COVID, we have been seeing a lot of patterns in elections that are not sitting well. And there's a lack of transparency in the election system. And when you take, if your listeners recall or have not heard it, Arapahoe County re-released the cast vote records, which is basically the data behind the ballots that they collect on election day and election year, we call it now, because it's never an election day any longer. And if they can re-release data and say, oh, we missed some sort of a redaction and we're going to re-release the data, and it changes the view of the pattern of the votes just by manipulating a column or two, what else are they doing in elections? So we're not accusing Arapahoe County of falsifying the election results, but we don't know because if they can change the data that they put out on the official website, what else can they do? And so we have three experts coming. Sorry, do you want me to finish that?
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Well, Patty, on that point is that they did this change and basically didn't tell anybody. So the lack of transparency is, I think it's really important to understand that. So if they change this cast vote record, there should have been a press release. Instead, what had to happen is somebody had to discover it, right? Correct. Yep.
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So Ed Solomon, he discovered it. And then supposedly a Yale professor discovered it when he was looking at people that vote down ballot differently. So Trump voters voted the same as Biden voters on the Gallagher Amendment. That's the big issue that came out. And so we have Ed Solomon coming in to talk about how he discovered what he did. And then Mark Cook going to be speaking about just the whole process in Arapahoe County. We have a woman that manages our elections that worked for Dominion Voting Systems for nine years. And when you start to think about all of the things that are going on in elections, we just want to shine the light on it. So we have them coming in to talk about specifically what happened in Arapahoe County. And then Dr. Douglas Frank, who's been speaking all over the country, will be coming in to speak about just election patterns. He's been meeting with secretaries of state throughout the nation, and he'll be at a Cause of America summit in Grand Junction tonight. He's coming in here tomorrow. So we are really just taking the flashlight and shining it on what's happening in Colorado and hoping that we can get to a point where we have really free, fair and transparent elections.
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Well, if we don't have free, fair, honest and transparent elections, then we don't really have a country. because that is foundational to a representative government. And for so many years, the Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold, who's a candidate for Attorney General now because she's term limited as Secretary of State, they have assured Coloradans that we have the gold standard. However, there are so many questions on so many different points. I know people are very concerned about the tabulating machines. And then, of course, here we've got this CASFO record that's been changed. I know there's a big concern about chain of custody at the post office. I know for a fact that mail-in ballots, the voter rolls, they don't get cleaned up. I know that because I personally have a stack of mail-in ballots about an inch thick that continues to come to my home for someone that has moved out of state many years ago. There are so many places where where we have vulnerabilities and instead of out there parroting oh we have the gold standard i think most people and that would be moderate democrats unaffiliated libertarians republicans conservatives i think that big broad middle of coloradans they if they really understood that we have these vulnerabilities i think that there will be a demand to get them fixed because we've got to have elections that we really can fully trust Patty McKernan.
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Yes, and that's actually the reason why we're doing the summit. It is showing exactly what happened in Arapahoe County, but the patterns that showed Trump voters and Biden voters voted at the same rate to identical rate to – to defeat or repeal Gallagher Amendment, which raised our property taxes. That's not happening just in Arapahoe County. They saw some of that in Jefferson County. They've seen something in El Paso County. They haven't looked at every single county, but this is why we want our citizens to be aware of what to look for, how to keep our counties accountable, and we're just trying to make sure that people understand what has happened in the last, For what, let's see, Arapahoe County put out those cast vote records in December of 2020, and a half a decade later, they're changing them. Now, why do you do that? What possibly, what are the reasons where you can just go in and manipulate data so quickly and say, oh, see, nothing to look at here. It's just, it's not right. And we are guaranteed free and fair elections in this country by our constitution. And we're going to demand transparency and accountability.
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Well, it's also rather remarkable that that election was certified, I think you said, in December of 2020. And here we are in 2025. It's taken that long to pass. Catch this, if you will. And by this time, a lot of the election records have been destroyed, which I find that crazy. Now that we have the capability to maintain election records, well, certainly on elections. electronically, I see no reason why these election records should be destroyed. But I think it's 20, it's 20 some months for federal elections and 20 some months for Colorado elections. There's something wrong with that picture. Okay, there's something wrong with that picture, Patty.
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There is something wrong with that picture, and especially when – well, they do have images, what they call cast vote – or ballot images, I should say.
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But don't they destroy those after 27 months as well? Or they could, couldn't they?
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Well, here's the situation. You can put anything up – I mean, look at AI today. You can put anything up on the computer, up on the Internet – and say, look, everything's great, but until you actually have something to back it up, which are those paper ballots that they destroyed, you can't do a cross-reference. I remember the, what do they call them, the risk-limiting audit. Well, let's go back and see if we can find the ballots that they used in the risk-limiting audit and see if those check out. Because those are kind of a joke, too. They pick what they want and say, ooh, let's make sure that those ballots match what we have on the machine. Well, you can do anything today. I'd like to go back to paper ballots in the precinct and get people engaged and go back to the way we did it for 100 years.
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Yeah. Well, I and I think France does that very, very well. So it's not that it can't be done. OK, so people are listening. They say, I'd like to attend. How do they figure out how to do that? Because the location is not going to be released until tonight. So what how can people find out about and attend the summit?
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If you go to Facebook and you look at Parker Conservatives, you look at Arapahoe Tea Party. Arapahoe Tea Party is probably the easiest way to find it. The link to the Sign Up Genius, you can't read that off over radio. So go to Facebook and look for Arapahoe Tea Party and you'll look for the Colorado Election Summit, Integrity Summit. And on that is a link to sign up for this and all the details will be shared with the those that register and we'll look forward to seeing everybody tomorrow night.
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Okay. Next question. If somebody's not on Facebook, is there any way they can get the information?
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I was hoping we'd put it on your event page, but I don't know that we got that done. We don't have, we are just a band of citizens that are volunteering to do this. We don't have a website. We don't have, you know, a powerhouse behind us. We're just people that want to see this done well. So I think if you Google Facebook, you can still get to a Facebook page because those aren't behind paywalls. You don't have to sign in. I think you can just see it from Google.
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Let me talk to Zach. I kind of dropped the ball on that and see if there's some way that we could put a ribbon on the website and we can talk about that tomorrow. So let me make a note on that and I'll see what I can do. So we'll talk about that after the show. And I know you're going to be on in the second hour as well. So let me go to work on that and we'll see what we can get figured out. So Patty McKernan, thank you so much. That event is tomorrow evening and stay tuned. We'll try to get more information for you about that. Thank you, Patty McKernan.
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All right. We'll talk to you in a bit. Bye, Kim.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our Web site. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. We just had Patty McKernan on regarding this event on election integrity tomorrow night in Arapahoe County. And you can register at the Arapahoe Tea Party dot com events page. And so right now you can do that if you need that. I wanted to mention the USMC Memorial Foundation, which is raising the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax. And it's so important to support the foundation because it's a way to honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our liberty. And so really recommend that you add that into your repertoire. And please have on the line with me, Dr. Brian Joondepth. He is an author and wanted to talk with him about a couple of his pieces that were recently published. The first at Rasmussen Reports is What Would the Founders Think? An Independence Day Reality Check. Dr. Joondepth, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim. How are you?
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Well, I am well. And as I was reading this piece, it's very sobering that only 36% of Americans believe the founding fathers would see today's America as a success, and 41% think that they would view it as a failure. This is very concerning, Dr. June Depth.
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It is. It's really a wake-up call that we have strayed as a country very far from our founding ideals. life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, individual rights, freedom from tyranny, all those things that the founders wanted, we are seeing slip away. We're becoming an increasingly top-heavy government bureaucracy that's slowly eroding our individual rights and freedoms, and we're being taxed and fees and everything into oblivion and lose, losing our rights. What, what we say, what we think, um, people are being punished for. And that's not what the founders envisioned. And we're seeing that slip away. And if the founders were to come back today, uh, I think many would be disappointed. This is, uh, um, It's a republic if you can keep it, and I don't know that we're keeping it very well.
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Well, I don't think that we are, and a lot of it, what I've seen with elections is that people get talked into, I think, tax increases. Consultants get paid a lot of money to run these campaigns, and And they might say, oh, it's just the price of a cup of coffee here or this or that. I am to the point, Dr. June Depp, no new taxes, and we need to get taxes and fees reduced. And a perfect example was this last election cycle. All of these school districts were asking for more money, and people care about education. and people we are saying yes and taxing ourselves into oblivion with this and the results are terrible as far as our kids when i look at this uh i was looking at results and a good school district and there's maybe only a few out there might have might have almost 50 percent of the kids being able to read and write and do arithmetic at grade level That means 50% of the kids can't. And until we can get results for all of this money that we're spending on education, I think the answer should be no to new taxes.
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And that's in good districts. You look at districts in inner cities where most high schools have zero students that are at grade level in reading and arithmetic. I mean, it's disgraceful. And the public schools keep asking for more money and they keep getting it and California has high taxes and it's a mess. You drive through Los Angeles and it's like a third world country in some areas. They can't maintain their roads. They can't maintain their infrastructure. And what are we getting for our taxes? The government originally it's for our common defense and welfare, not for funding every crazy idea, all the transgender stuff. It's ridiculous what we're spending money on. We're spending money in Denver on housing illegals. And, you know, I don't know how many illegals, how many homeless, but the city's going broke. Denver Health is $150 million in the red, providing uncompensated care. And any efforts to fix this or rectify it by saying, no, we can't be a sanctuary city and we can't allow people to just come into this country and into Denver and enjoy all the welfare largesse. It's just not sustainable. And people are being taxed to support it, and they're not seeing results from it. There's no money. They can't maintain flowers and gardens in the city of Denver. There's big potholes, and there's trash on the side of the road. It's really disgraceful for what was once a beautiful American city.
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Well, and the Denver vibe, I talked to an older millennial, and he said, the Denver vibe is gone. And it used to be a cool place to come. I talked with someone that was going to go to a concert, and they had a choice to go to Denver or to Salt Lake. And they decided to go to Salt Lake. I talked with another friend of mine that lives out of state, and she said, we don't come to Denver anymore. And she said, your roads, the minute you hit the state line, The potholes are crazy as you're coming in on I-70. I've got the cut board meeting, the Colorado Union of Taxpayers board meeting tonight. It's in Golden. And so I normally go around on C-470. And the roads are terrible, Dr. June Depth.
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Yes. No, they are. And they're dirty. You drive along roads that were once clean and there's trash and dirt. That's part of what our taxes should be going for, is to keep roads clean. Instead, you see trash. You go to some of these cities in the Middle East that are pristine. They're beautiful. They're clean. They manage that. Even a lot of European cities are like that. There's a sense of pride, and they keep it clean. What's happening with American cities? And Denver is a good example. It's potholes. It's trash. It's homeless people. You don't see that elsewhere in the world. It's really disgusting.
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It is really disgusting. In your piece, you said that Washington, Jefferson, Franklin were men who risked everything on the idea that a free people could govern themselves. And they didn't agree on everything. And they weren't saints. We realize that as well. But they had an amazing vision. And that vision is in the Declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And I was thinking about... wealth redistribution. That is one of the things. It's Marxist to take away from people that have produced, to have government give to somebody else. But the founders, the way they envisioned redistribution is that everyday people could go after their hopes and dreams. They could thrive and prosper. And then if they wanted to redistribute their wealth to a charity that they felt was doing a good job, they could do so. And that worked pretty well for a lot of years for America.
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Well, it did. It's the people that put in the work, and they earned it, and they can choose to do with their money what they want. They can give to charities. Private individuals can support whatever they want. They can support political candidates, political causes, whether you agree with them or not. But confiscating the earnings of people to support those things, that goes against that. People should be allowed to keep the product of their labor. And government really should have minimal function, the national defense and certain infrastructure things. But, you know, what do we need? A Department of Energy, Department of Education, all these departments that cost billions of dollars a year. And what do they do? They just complicate people's lives. And they're an impediment to doing business, an impediment to liberty. And yet they continue. And Yeah, Trump is cutting back on some of these. But my guess is four years go by and not a single agency will be eliminated. And I'm not blaming Trump. Congress has to do that. Congress formed all these agencies and they can eliminate them. But my guess is even with a Republican majority, it won't happen. And that's disgraceful.
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Well, it is disgraceful, but it does come down to we the people. And you mentioned in your piece that people that trade virtue for comfort or responsibility for handouts is where tyranny can take hold. And we are at the precipice right now of tyranny here in Colorado. I think we are so close to tyranny with this Colorado legislature and this governor in this special session. i think is going to be very interesting that the governor just called because we're looking at a 500 million dollar hole on medicaid and medicaid is being sold it was sold to us as to to help people that are um you know that really have no other options but when you unpack it and realize that Medicaid dollars are being used to mutilate our children, either pharmaceutically or surgically, through this transgender indoctrination. That is not what that was ever intended for, Dr. June Debt.
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That's correct. That is not the purpose of Medicaid, and... Yeah, they're going to cut it. As a physician, I'm pretty confident they're going to be cutting what they pay physicians, pay hospitals, and physicians will just stop seeing these patients. That's going to happen very quickly because it's who in a business is going to take on business where they lose money? That's clearly unsustainable, and it's not going to happen. And they're going to They're just going to exacerbate it. They're going to stop paying physicians a reasonable reimbursement for Medicaid, and those patients won't get seen. Physicians don't have to see them.
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But what needs to happen is that Medicaid needs to be paying for the safety net things for people and not all of this other stuff that's being mandated.
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I agree. I'm not one to tout Oregon for much, but they have a Medicaid program where they listed all the covered procedures and they had a commission. They had stakeholders from a lot of different arenas. And they decided, you know, here's the budget, here are the things we can cover and not cover. And they ranked them and they drew a line. Above the line it was covered, below the line it wasn't. And that could be revisited every six months or every year. But that was a fiscally prudent decision that we can cover these things, but we can't cover that. And they prioritized what they're going to cover and lived within their budget. And that makes good sense.
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Well, I hope that Colorado will follow that. I agree with you hardly. Anything that comes out of Oregon, I'm jazzed about, but I think that's a great idea. We're going to continue the discussion with Dr. Brian Doondepth, and this happens because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's kimmonson.com. And I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And then also check out the website for American Value Center or the Center for American Values. It's AmericanValueCenter.org. The center is located in Pueblo, co-founded by Drew Dix, who is a Medal of Honor recipient. And he started this great new podcast series. And his most recent three are Changing Culture. Homeland Security and the Inside Threat, and Domestic Insurrection. And he's got a very important view on all of these things. You can check all that out by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. On the line with me is Dr. Brian Depth, and I wanted to talk with him about a piece that was recently published at American Thinker, and that is The Rise of Democrat Theater Kids. What is a theater kid, Dr. June Depth?
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Well, In general, theater kids are kids that are involved in theater. They're budding thespians and they're overly dramatic in their actions and such. I'm referring to politicians that are theater kids. We seem to have a generation now of budding actors and actresses in Congress that love to put on theater. They cry on cue and they stage photos and they're overly dramatic. And really, they beclown themselves. And it's not statesmanlike, and people don't take them seriously. It's a very type of clownish behavior, and it's prominently, but not exclusively, on the Democrat side.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, she's pretty good at this theater, isn't she?
SPEAKER 05 :
She's very good. And, you know, she's... She and Trump got into it recently over Trump's bombing of Iran, and she was threatening impeachment. Trump called her dumb, and she's like, oh, I'm a Bronx girl, and we eat Queens boys for breakfast. She's really not a Bronx girl. She grew up in Westchester County in a town where average home price is three-quarters of a million dollars. went to a fancy high school, and in those days she was Sandy Cortez. She wasn't AOC. So she changed her name, and she's really not from the Bronx. To borrow a term from the left, she's guilty of cultural appropriation. She's acting like she's a girl from the hood, Sandy from the block, but she's not. She's from a upper-middle-class suburb, and she's pretending that she's down for the struggle. And a lot of politicians do that. Hillary Clinton has done that, putting on a fake Southern accent when speaking in front of a black church in the South. Yeah, Hillary Clinton is from also upper-middle-class Chicago suburbs. She's not down for the struggle. So these people are very inauthentic, and They cry on cue. Eric Swalwell on camera will start crying. It's just childish behavior, and the media picks it up, and the media is like a 70s sitcom where they have canned laugh lines and applause lines, and it's really kind of silly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and Jared Polis changed his name also. His given name was Jared Schutz, and he took then his mother's maiden name. And I find that interesting, these people changing their names. I find that just curious.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, we had a president who was once upon a time Barry Sotero and then changed it to Barack Obama because it sounded more exotic and interesting. He thought it would further his political career, which obviously it did.
SPEAKER 11 :
So everything's calculated with all of this theater.
SPEAKER 05 :
It is. It's these long speeches. Hakeem Jeffries gave an hours-long filibuster over the big, beautiful bill. And a few years earlier, he was decrying the filibuster as a relic of Jim Crow and racist. But yeah, so he's putting on theater and the media praises him and, you know, how brave and all of this. It's theater and then people see through it. That's why Congress has an approval rating in the 20s. Most people have little respect for Congress. And as you mentioned in the previous segment, yes, we try to hold these people accountable. We vote and we get the same old thing. We, we, we have Republican majority in both houses of Congress. Um, yet we had to drag this budget bill over the line. There could be far more cuts in spending. Um, there's tons of ambassadorships that still haven't been approved. So these are unfilled. What, what's the Senate doing? Um, They could be codifying Trump's executive orders into law. Uh, they could be defunding and eliminating agencies. They're, they're not doing that. They're not reigning in the law fair. They created these judicial districts. Uh, they can defund them if they're not behaving. There's so many things Congress could do and they're not. So we continue to vote for these people and stand in our principles. And what do we get for it? A lot of nothing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we're at a time, Dr. June Depth, where with Donald Trump, he is working to really disrupt this administrative state, which began with Woodrow Wilson. And we have got to get government back in its proper role, not only at the federal government, but at the local level as well. I hear rumblings. I live in Lone Tree. I hear rumblings. That that they're considering taxing groceries. And I've got to get my brain around that because the answer should be no on that. And then recently, within the last few years, Lone Tree increased their sales tax. which, again, and they sold it to the people of Lone Tree that, oh, there's people that come in here and shop, and they'll be paying this higher tax. And as my next-door neighbor said, she goes, we shop here. We pay the higher tax, too. So the voters got to really, I think, get a little smarter when these consultants come in to sell these tax increases to us. So we need to be holding people accountable at the local level as well, Dr. June.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Denver keeps raising its taxes and people don't shop there. Cherry Creek Mall used to be an attractive place to shop and now it isn't anymore because you've got to pay for parking now and you pay higher sales tax so it's easier to go elsewhere or just buy online. They're hurting local businesses with these taxes. People will find a lower tax town to shop in and maybe they'll If Highlands Ranch has less tax, they'll shop there instead of Lone Tree or go to Parker and just rearrange their lives and how they purchase. A lot of people purchase things online to avoid certain taxes, but even that's getting taxed.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the really brilliant thing to do would be for a jurisdiction to lower their taxes. That would attract businesses. It would attract shoppers. We've got a minute left, Dr. Jundep. How would you like to wrap all this up?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there's a lot going on these days. We've just touched on two topics, but... The news cycle is overwhelming with the Epstein stuff and Ukraine and Russia and the Middle East and news this morning of the auto pen and who was signing things. What I would like to see is a reckoning for these people. We've had very little reckoning. The Spygate, the Russia collusion narrative. Yeah, they're investigating Brennan and Comey. I'd like to see a reckoning. I'd like to see a reckoning on the auto pen. and who lied about Biden's mental fitness and all the COVID things. There needs to be a reckoning and a course correction. Otherwise, these things will happen again. And that's my disappointment that we've seen very little accountability. It's acknowledged that nothing seems to happen and nothing changes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we're going to continue to shed light on that. And thank you, Dr. June Depp. We'll talk with you next month.
SPEAKER 05 :
My pleasure. Bye now.
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And great first hour with Dr. Brian Joondepth. And you can hear that hour, if you missed it, that will be rebroadcast today, 1 to 2 in the afternoon. This hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. We're on live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday on all KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And so you can find us at all those places. And then we are on Spotify and iTunes after we get all that stuff posted. So be sure. and check that out. I want to say thank you to Hooters Restaurants for their sponsorship of the show. They have three locations, and that is Loveland, Westminster, and the location on Parker Road, which is just down the road from the station. So really appreciate their sponsorship. It's an important story on how I got to know them regarding free markets and capitalism and those PBIs, those PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties. that like to control things, and that's not the way it is supposed to be here in America. Our word of the day, and these PBIs raise havoc in our lives, it seems like, many times, and that is the word of the day. Havoc is H-A-V-O-C. It could be widespread destruction or devastation, disorder or chaos, or it could be waste. And Denver is in decline. It's in havoc right now because of these terrible policies by both the mayor and the governor and the Colorado State Legislature, the city council, and the Denver vibe is lost. I don't know if we'll get that back. We're not going to give it back and get it back with these particular policies. That's for sure. So your challenge is to use the word of the day, havoc, in a sentence. And thank you, Eric, for suggesting that. And again, that's H-A-V-O-C. Our quote of the day was something that Mary Jansen had shared with me. And it is this. It is inch by inch, life's a cinch. Yard by yard, life is hard. So look at the job that is right in front of you at this particular point in time and just roll your sleeves up and inch by inch you will accomplish the things that you need to. The two headlines that I wanted to go through is we're going through from the whitehouse.gov, the big, beautiful bill. They said there's 50 wins. And this is 25, excuse me, 26 through 30. Number 26, it holds woke, elitist universities accountable by increasing the endowment tax on large universities. 27, it protects hardworking taxpayers by canceling Biden's illegal and unfair student loan bailouts. 28, it ends taxpayer-funded sex changes. That was never the proper role of government. Number 29, it's a once-in-a-generation chance to revolutionize our nation's defense capabilities and protect the homeland against new threats by funding President Trump's Golden Dome. Number 30, it enhances the capacity of America's naval fleet. The other headline that I wanted to hit was this is and this is so interesting. This is the Public Rights Project published this. And you can just see their bias in the title or the headline is Nationwide Legal Challenge Grows. 34 more local governments join lawsuit to stop Trump's illegal immigration coercion. And this lists the new plaintiffs as Alameda County, California, Albany, New York, Albuquerque, New Mexico, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, Baltimore, Maryland, Benicia, California, Bend, Oregon, Berkeley, California. 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And the jurisdictions already in the case are San Francisco, Santa Clara, California, Emeryville, California, King County, Washington, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Monterey County, California, New Haven, Connecticut, Oakland, California, California, Portland, Oregon, Sacramento, California, San Diego, California, San Jose, California, Santa Cruz, California, Santa Fe, New Mexico, Seattle, Washington, and St. Paul, Minnesota. So I thought it was important that you know all of these particular jurisdictions that are suing to be sanctuary cities or counties. And okay, you want to do that? No federal money. And then, let's see, your voters hopefully will hold the elected representatives accountable in those jurisdictions. These are such important discussions that we have. And I have them because of our sponsors. And the Roger Mangut State Farm Insurance team, Roger's been in business. He's going to be celebrating his 50th year. 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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And please staff on the line with me, entrepreneur and owner of the 88 Drive-In Theater, Susan Kochevar. Susan, welcome to the show. Thanks, Kim. And Susan, I started something new. I was going through some of my books and I found this book that I got when I was back in Virginia. It's George Washington's Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior in Company and Conversation. And so today, this is the one that he had written. He said, sleep not when others speak, sit not when others stand, speak not when you should hold your peace, walk not on when others stop. It's really probably just about good manners. What do you think, Susan Kochuar?
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Well, yeah, I suppose. I think a lot of it's good manners, and I think there is also some Perhaps strategy might be a good word in that, you know, when you're trying to work with other people and listen to what they say and put yourself on, not above, but an equal footing, you know, standing when people are standing and things like that, not walking on. Yeah, those things can be important.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, they're good manners, and good manners actually is a good strategy as well, Susan Kochavar. So before we get into all these subjects, 88 Drive-In Theater, you're busy right now, aren't you?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, this is the peak of the season right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
And you're open seven days a week, yes? Yes. Yep, seven days a week right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
We'll do that probably until Labor Day. I'm not exactly sure, but most likely. Right now we have Superman and the F1 movie, which is Formula One racing. So that's doing very well. The pictures both look great on the screen, nice and bright.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and Superman, interestingly, I don't know if it was the director or the producer, apparently came out and made some very woke comments. And I had read a piece by Christian Toto that said you would think that these actors and producers and directors would realize that maybe that's not a good idea. But he referenced the movie. He said the movie wasn't really woke, though, that the movie was very good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, that's what I've heard as well. It's not woke at all, but the director said his movie is really about immigration because Superman was an immigrant. I would argue he's actually an alien, which is fine. But the problem is that he called anybody who disagreed with, I guess, open borders and things, jerks. And he should probably read The Room because most of the country supports – getting all these migrants out of our country. And so it didn't go over very well. He tried to walk the comet back, but we'll see what happens. I fear some damage might be done to the movie. You know, one of the things, you know, and it's not uncommon for movies to have, you know, political tones for sure, a point of view. But if you're trying to influence people, calling them jerks is not going to work.
SPEAKER 11 :
I bet I have a feeling that George Washington would not recommend that in his rules of civility and decent behavior. And it's really not a good idea to call so many people names if you want them to come see your movies. But I do understand that the movie's good, though. So that is Superman. And you've got that. And Then this other movie, it is, what's the title of it? It's the F1 movie. Okay, the F1 movie. Yeah, Formula Racing movie. Okay, and people can get more information by going to 88drivein.net, and all of your information is there. But let's move over. You really watch what is happening in our country, in our state. You really have your finger on the pulse here. Of what's going on. This whole Epstein, Bondi, Dan Bongino thing, if people are not aware of it, Pam Bondi, the Department of Justice, they basically came out and said that there's nothing to see here, that Jeffrey Epstein did not, was not involved. kill. There's no real list of people that had gone to Epstein's Island. There's nothing to see here. And most everybody's going, wait a minute. And then there are those that are calling for her to step down as attorney general. And Dan Bongino has said that basically it's either her or me and he's out of here. So what's your read on all of this, Susan Kojabar?
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The entire thing is very strange. You recall, that's one of the things that Trump ran on, was releasing those Epstein files. Because Jeffrey Epstein is accused of... Actually, I think he was already prosecuted for child pornography, I think, for sure. I don't think he was... charged with trafficking. In Florida, I think he was charged with child pornography. So Trump ran on releasing all this stuff. At one point before Kash Patel became director of the FBI, he said that the FBI director had Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book, which contained a list of clients in his possession. Dan Bongino has talked a lot about all of the issues surrounding Epstein, you know, and you also have people like Alex Jones, who's talked about all the terrible things that were going on and that they were inviting people to Epstein's Islands, taking pictures of them and blackmailing them. And there seems to be some very high profile people that were involved in that and on on Epstein's plane. So this is very much something that was promised to MAGA. And they want to see people who are responsible for doing some of the bad things in our country held responsible. justifiably. So that's kind of where the whole thing started. And then, um, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino went on to, uh, a news program and we're saying, no, there's, uh, you know, we've seen the tape Epstein didn't kill himself. And the interview looked very strange and they both looked extremely uncomfortable. So we had all of that. And then, um, we had, um, I can't remember the order. If, uh, Pam Bondi's memo came out that said, no, there's no list. There's nothing incriminating there. There's no, you know, nothing there. And then you have the strange cabinet meeting where somebody asked Trump about, you know, the Epstein case. And he got kind of angry and said, are you still, you know, why are you still asking about that? which was very tone deaf because there were young girls that were trafficked. So, um, that set off a firestorm in MAGA. And, um, that's when, um, something kind of hit the fan and Dan Bongino said, that's it. I'm out of here because she's Pam Bondi is bundling this whole, uh, Epstein case. So, uh, I'm not sure if Dan's going to be out or not. Apparently, Trump talked to him and said Dan's great. Kash Patel said he's going to stay. The president came out and said that he supported Pam Bondi. It's a big mess. And I think people are very upset with the attorney general over more than Justice Epstein case. Lots of people haven't been charged. Nothing's been coming out. So I think people are justifiably frustrated and upset.
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So now the Democrats are demanding that the Epstein files be made public. But yet under the Biden administration, they didn't want, at least from my understanding, they did. Well, it was not made public, so they were not demanding that it was made public at that point in time. If this is a strategy, this is really kind of, in a way, I think a brilliant strategy. If you now have the Democrats that are demanding that this list be made public, I find this very interesting.
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Well, and Trump has released another memo where he says that the Democrats, this is similar to cross our hurricane and they made a lot of stuff up and put a lot of fake things in the file. That was, I think yesterday that memo came out. So, um, what a mess. I, I, I don't know. I can't tell if it's a strategy. I, I trust Dan Bongino. I don't know Kash Patel very well, but, um, he was, you know, all over Glenn Beck talking about, um, this situation with the Epstein files. And I saw that Glenn Beck also came out and recommended that Trump fire Pam Bondi. It's curious and curiouser.
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Well, it is. And so there is a lot that is going on out there. And so this is a stay tuned kind of event. And I think that with Pam Bondi, We really want an attorney general. When Dr. Jundep said that there needs to be a reckoning of so many different things that have gone on, well, that's going to fall right with, I think, the attorney general. And so this is super important stuff. I'm talking with Susan Kochevar. She is an entrepreneur. She is the owner of the 88 Drive-In Theater, and they are amazing. At the top of their season right now, a couple of really great films, Superman and then F1, which is a racing movie. And so it looks like a fun evening out at the 88 Drive-In Theater. We'll be right back. We're going to continue that discussion. These discussions happen because of our sponsors. And one of those is the Second Syndicate. And they are working to try to bring all of these different organizations together to work together to protect our Second Amendment, which is our right to keep and bear firearms. to protect ourselves against bad actors.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Susan Kochevar is on the line. She's the owner of 88 Drive-In Theater, and you can get more information about them at 88DriveIn.net. That's 88DriveIn.net. Susan Kochevar, one of the things that I had mentioned earlier in the show was about Jared Polis changing his name. And it's kind of messy what happened. This was published in September of 2018. It says, after 19 years, a police report surfaces in Jared Polis' campaign for governor. So he changed his name, and apparently an employee was... Well, the article says terminated. And so they got into an altercation, and the employee said that she tried to call the police, that he disconnected the phone. Anyway, it's messy there as well. But he changed his name as he was then moving through his political career. And I'd kind of forgotten that he had done that, which, again, when Brian Judeff talked about... AOC changing her name. It's very curious, these different people changing their names as they're moving through politics. And, of course, Barack Obama changed his name as well. I find that all just so curious. But you can find this. This is published at Colorado Politics. And it's after 19 years, police report surfaces in Jared Polis' campaign for governor. I do find that very interesting, Susan.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think it's quite curious. Well, I believe she alleged that he slapped her.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and grabbed her wrist and pushed her around. Yeah. So yeah, that article there. So yeah, pretty interesting. And that didn't come out when he was campaigning for governor. No, it did not. Imagine that. Imagine that. Okay, Susan, let's change gears a little bit. You watch the Federal Reserve closely, and it looks like Jerome Powell, there's those that are calling for him to step down. So talk a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's really interesting. I don't know if you follow John Solomon, just the news, but he's saying it's going to be a very – Good week for MAGA these next 10 days. And one of the things that Trump has been pushing for is for the Fed chair, Jerome Powell, to resign because, you know, Fed because Trump believes he needs to drop the interest rates on the 10 year Treasury. And by a couple of points, I think you said, and I think that that would help tremendously start our engine so that people can, you know, capital will move around. Hopefully that home interest rates will go down. You have better people talk about that than me, but, but that's the hope. And that's what Trump wants so that people can buy homes and, and make other large purchases. So it's, you know, the Fed now, I think a lot of your listeners probably know that the Federal Reserve is not actually part of the federal government's private entity, but it's a group of big banks that set the price of money, you know, and that was set up many years ago. And I don't think that was a good idea at all. That's not free market capitalism. But so, so Trump is very frustrated with Jerome Powell and wants him to drop the interest rates. And so far, Powell has reserved, claiming that the tariffs will impact inflation. Of course, we have not seen that. In fact, we have seen the reverse. And jobs are starting to pick up. And it was reported, I think it was on Friday, that the United States, for the first time in 20 years, has a $127 billion surplus. So which would indicate that, um, Trump's policies are working. So, um, is that a trade surplus?
SPEAKER 11 :
Is that, it's probably a trade surplus. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I, I not clear on that. I don't know if the surplus is coming from, um, the gold cards and tariffs. I think that's what I think it's coming from. Um, so, so those things will be good things. And, um, You know, it's very tough for the president to get rid of a Fed chair, but there seems to be a line of thinking that Trump could fire Jerome Powell, and he has to, of course, have good cause. Well, it turns out that Jerome Powell was in front of Congress testifying about the economy and things the Fed was doing, and he was talking about this new building that the Federal Reserve is putting up. $2.5 billion for this new building. And it comes complete with granite curbs and gutters, I guess. And it has a pool swimming pool with rooftop gardens. So that is a very, I mean, talk about tone deaf, you know, Americans are struggling. He's spending $2.5 billion on a building. I mean, you know, um, um, it's like the stuff of, I guess, Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette in Let Them Eat Cake. I mean, they live in Versailles, which is beautiful, and the people have nothing. So it's just, it's incredible. So we could see Jerome Powell resign or Trump make more moves to fire him this week. We'll see, I guess, the Fed meets at the end of the month. We'll see if he lowers the interest rate. I know there is a lot of pressure on him coming from everywhere, including I think one of his chairmen, one person that sits on the Federal Reserve Board who owns Pulte Homes, and he's talking about how great that would be for the economy to drop the interest rates. And I think it would, and people trying to buy homes, especially our young people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, definitely. And the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, which was during the time with Woodrow Wilson. That's where we did a couple of other things. We had the income tax amendment that was passed at that time. And also that was where we changed representation, how it was elected, that the US Senate members used to be elected by the states, and then it became a popular vote. All those things at that time put in place this progressivism, which now we are all these years later looking at the effects of this. And we've got to get all this stuff turned around. And an interesting thing on the Fed, when I've talked with Lorne Levy, who is our mortgage specialist, He said that the Fed looks at data and then will make their decision on interest rates. But and you alluded to this and Lorna said this as well, that Powell and company, instead of looking at data, they're now trying to look into the future, saying that they think that these tariffs could create inflation. And as you mentioned, that's not the case. So now it's not only that they're looking at data, but they're using this supposed crystal ball. And I don't think those two things match up with what they're supposed to be doing on that, Susan Kochvar.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they're dabbling in the politics and assessing policies and their impact. And, of course, that's not their role. So it's really strange. You know, you touched on something else, too, with the changes that were made around 1913 and especially changing the way that our senators were elected. Initially, when the country was set up, each state was a petri dish sort of thing, and they would test policies if you didn't like politics. a state you could, you know, butt with your feet and leave. And the states were set up to compete so that you get the best ideas. And of course, that would help you treat your people better, you know, not grow your government and some things like that. So, you know, those senators then represented, were supposed to represent their state. And now that that was changed in 1913, and now they're the same as the House of Representatives. And I think that really damaged the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it did as well. And so this just came in on the text line, and I think that you'll find this interesting. And Jenny is so creative. She came up with OPM, which is other people's money. She just came up with this one, T, taxed enough already. And she said that the Wellington Fire Department wants to raise sales tax by 0.5%. And they already gotten a windfall with Gallagher. They unionized and they still want more money. We've got to get to a point where we say no. I think, no to all these new taxes. And again, a jurisdiction who, from a competitive standpoint, has a lower tax rate, they will attract businesses, they will attract shoppers, and because they have more businesses, more shoppers, their tax revenues will actually go up even though they have a lower tax rate. And so we have got to really start this drumbeat. I like this T, taxed enough already, Susan Kochavar. Your final thought.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Government has an insatiable appetite for our money, and we have got to stop them.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, we do. And Susan Kochavar, your website, and again, you're in high season at the 88 Drive-In Theater and a couple of great films right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, 88drivein.net, and you can find us on Facebook as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Susan Kochabar, always appreciate it. And when we were preparing for this, you said the next 10 days could be quite interesting here in America. So stay tuned, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. John Solomon's reporting that. He's a very well-respected journalist, so hang on.
SPEAKER 11 :
And he will be speaking tomorrow evening in the metro area. The location will be disclosed tonight. And you can go to Arapahoe County Tea Party's website and register, and then they will respond to you with where that location is. And so at this point, that's the best place to find it. Or if you're on Facebook, you can certainly find it with Arapahoe County Tea Party events as well, but they have it on their website. So be sure and check that out because John Solomon will be presenting along with Dr. Douglas Frank and Mark Cook regarding election integrity. I did want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And then we talked with Jody Henzey in hour number one with Mint Financial Strategies. And she had talked about the importance of making sure that you have your estate in order and that what a gift that is to your heirs. And she's living that right now. Her mother died somewhat unexpectedly just last week. And our sympathy goes out to Jody and her family. But she said what a gift it was. that her mother had everything in place and so reach out to jody at min financial strategies uh that phone number i should i just about have that totally memorized let me get that for you it's 303-285-3080 so that you can make sure that you have your financial freedom in order. And again, that's Mint Financial Strategies. That number is 303-285-3080. And we have these important discussions because of our wonderful sponsors. If you've been injured, reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's kimmonson.com and sign up for our weekly email newsletter. As you know, the two nonprofits that I feature on a regular basis on the show is the USMC Memorial Foundation, and they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. It's located at the corner of Colfax and 6th Avenue. And it is so important that we support the foundation. And it's our way to honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And then the Center for American Values is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. And they do several things. One of them is their Portraits of Valor, which is just so inspiring. There's portraits of over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients and their quotes. And it's just a very special place. But it's co-founded by Drew Dix, a Medal of Honor recipient, and he started this very important podcast series, Words from the Silo. You can find it at AmericanValueCenter.org. And his most recent ones are Our Changing Culture, Homeland Security and the Inside Threat and Domestic Insurrection. So be sure and check that out. We have Patty McKernan on the line. She was on in hour number one, but we thought it would be important because sometimes we have people that are in and out on listening to highlight this event tomorrow evening. It's in Colorado's Election Integrity Summit. Patty McKernan, welcome back.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good morning, Kim. I'm glad I get to come back after Dr. June Depp because he said the right thing. He said we need a reckoning. And the reason why we're doing this election integrity summit is because we need a reckoning to make sure that our elections are fair and transparent for the state of Colorado. And I actually think that this is something that Tina Peters needs as well in this state so she can stop being a political prisoner. So this is a really important summit tomorrow night, and ArapahoeTeaParty.com is where you can find the sign-up on their events page. I think it's even on the home page. So I'm hoping that anyone that wants to attend will. RSVP today will get you the details of the live stream or coming in in person. It's free, but we are asking for donations because we do have to pay for Dr. Frank's travel. Dr. Douglas Frank will be our headline speaker, and it's the door that we're going to open to try to make things right in Colorado and make voting transparent.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, transparent and honest. We need free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And I think the big, broad, middle Coloradans, that is what they want. And that would be moderate Democrats and unaffiliated and conservatives and Republicans and libertarians. I think all of us want to make sure that we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. So this is very, very important. and go to the Arapahoe County Tea Party website.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, Arapahoe Tea Party. Don't say county, Arapahoe Tea Party.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, ArapahoeTeaParty.com, the events page. You can register, and then once you're registered, you all will reach out this evening and let them know what the location is, correct?
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct, correct. It's in central Arapahoe County. We'll get those details out tonight.
SPEAKER 11 :
Patty McKernan, are we not in crazyville that we have to have a location that is somewhat hidden because of the concern that there might be protesters that would try to shut down the event, which means what they're trying to shut down is a conversation about free, fair, honest and transparent elections. I think it's important that people connect that dot, Patty.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I was thinking about saying that as well, Kim, because this type of an election integrity summit was to be held a few years back. And the, you know, the left got a hold of the venue and the venue. It was a church in Cherry Creek. And they said, no, no, no, no, we're going to do it. Well, they started, you know, doing the doxing and all that other stuff. And so the church said, nope, sorry about that. And they're back up. Same thing happens. So this time we're not giving them an advance notice of where they need to show up to try to intimidate the location. It's really sad because tonight I'm going to be working really hard to get the information out to the hundreds of people that have signed up. But... That's the world we live in. We also live in a world of people that just want to say, I don't want to hear this. This sounds like conspiracy. I don't want to believe this. You guys are crazy. And we're not. We're witnessing a little tiny redo of a spreadsheet that's on an official county website that And it changes the bar graph and it doesn't change the outcome of the entire election, but it changed votes. It literally changed votes. So we can't have this. We have to have free and fair and transparent elections in this state, or we're going to continue to have 1312 at the Capitol and, you know, all of the crazy things that they tax increases, everything they've been doing at the Capitol will continue if we can't get this straightened out.
SPEAKER 11 :
And then we need to have a a media that is searching for truth and clarity on highlighting these issues, and that's one of the things that we work diligently to do here at the Kim Monson Show. We've got just a few minutes left, but earlier I mentioned Jared Polis had changed his name, and there was a piece in 2018 in Colorado Politics But this is, let's see, one of our listeners said, we went from just changing a politician's name to now changing a gender. And it's crazy. And then the other thing is, is that there was legislation down at the state house that would allow inmates to change their names to their new gender name. Well, then that makes it really difficult to follow criminals if they're changing their name while they're in prison.
SPEAKER 10 :
Think of sex traffickers or sex offenders, right? Right, right. We've got to do something about this state, the state that I was born and raised in and that I love dearly.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it's in decline right now, Patty McKernan, and that is why elections are so important. And to anybody out there where they say they're taking this narrative, oh, there's nothing to see here. Well, one has to say, well, wait a minute. I want to confirm that there's nothing to see here. And that's what's so crazy is that there are those that are trying to shut down the conversation about this, Patty McKernan.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, we will always have people, and it doesn't matter what their party is. There are other radio personalities that have tried to shut down everything about Tina Peters that she was trying to preserve in terms of election integrity, and it's kind of a racket, and I think we want to expose it and have Just honest people and virtuous values here in Colorado again.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we need to do all of this, Patty McKernan, to reclaim our state. And one question, we have just a few seconds left. One of our listeners asked, is the media going to be there?
SPEAKER 10 :
We think we might extend an invitation to Kyle Clark today. We just haven't put it out in the media ahead of time because we don't want to have all this This nonsense about trying to shut us down. So I did invite the county commissioners and I know at least one is coming and the commissioners emailed back and said, there's nothing to see here. Okay, there you go. Why don't you come find out for yourself and in the Q&A we can talk about it.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's great. OK, and you can sign up at ArapahoTeaParty.com. Patty McKernan, thank you for the tireless work. You are also the GOP chair of Congressional District 6. And I so appreciate all that you are doing to reclaim our state.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks, Kim. Thanks for the help in terms of exposing this issue and inviting people to the summit. Thank you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. And our quote for the end of the show is this. It's an Air Force motto. It says, the difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes a little longer. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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In this episode of America's Veteran Stories, hear the captivating rebroadcast of Jody Lander's experiences during World War II — from his draftsman days in Dallas to becoming a paratrooper in the European theater. Jody recounts his preparation for D-Day, strenuous training, and the challenges faced upon landing in Normandy. His narrative is a testament to the resilience and determination that defined the Greatest Generation.
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World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and her other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's veteran stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. The show comes to you because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans back to Normandy, France for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings and realized that these stories need to be recorded and broadcast and archived, so hence America's Veteran Stories. We are so honored and pleased to present to you a rebroadcast of a show that we recorded back in May of 2020. And it is an interview with Jody Lander, a young guy. He and his best friend became paratroopers, and he jumped in behind enemy lines on D-Day, June 6, 1944.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I am thrilled to have on the line with me World War II veteran Jody Lander. I actually have interviewed him before, and it is a great honor to get to talk to you again, Jody Lander. So welcome to the show. Thank you. You have quite a story. So let's start at the beginning. Where did you grow up, Jody Lander? In Dallas, Texas. And do you remember where you were when you heard that Pearl Harbor had been bombed?
SPEAKER 07 :
I was home, I think. It was a Sunday morning. I was home, and I didn't go to church that day, and I turned on the radio because I heard about it and listened to it. Of course, they didn't have much detail to tell, just kind of said over and over again, we've been bombed, and that's about all the information we had.
SPEAKER 06 :
Were you surprised that America was being pulled into war?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, I was. I wasn't really up to date on things. I guess I should have known it, but I was only 18 then, and I didn't pay much attention to the national news at that time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so how then did you get into the Army Air Corps?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I was in the Army Airborne, not Air Corps. It was part of the Army. Well, the Air Corps at that time was part of the Army, too, but this was part of the regular Army, and it was the Airborne part of it. It wasn't Air Corps, it was Airborne.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what? I did not realize that. So I'm learning something new every day. So you were part of the 82nd Airborne then, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Yes, that's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, how did you get from being a kid in Dallas into the 82nd Airborne?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I was going to A&M at the time. I was a freshman, and I was drafted. And when I went to the reception center, they were asking for volunteers, so I volunteered for it. They would not put you in it unless you volunteered. I thought that would be exciting. I wasn't disappointed. I was not disappointed. It was exciting.
SPEAKER 06 :
That it was. You were in three of the major battles in the European theater in World War II. So you volunteered for the Airborne. What happened? training?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we went to basic training, and we just trained like the regular infantry. We were really part of the infantry, but we just had a different means of transportation. So I went to Florida, Camp McCall, Florida, and we were trained just like the regular infantry, except we had, I think, more physical training. They kind of really worked us over. So they put us in very good shape by the time we got to parachute school.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what was it like on your first jump at Parachute School?
SPEAKER 07 :
Were you afraid? Oh, yes, yes. I was afraid for every jump. I never got used to it. Yeah, the first one, I was scared to death. But I just followed the other guys out the door, so I went with them. Because we had a lot of training before that. We jumped off of – they had these parachute towers. They pulled us up on them. They were about 250 feet tall, and they raised us in a parachute. Of course, the parachute was already open, and we knew it was never going to open. So we had a training there, and so, yes, I was scared. Of course, everybody after that first jump said there's nothing to it. And the next day, you know, we made five jumps in five days when we went through the training. And so we all thought the next day would be nothing to it, but I was just as scared the next day as it was the first day. Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, how did you then get... Oh, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll just say, I never did get used to jumping. I really didn't like it. It scared me every time, but I was in it, so I was going to stay in it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I can't imagine, Jody Lander. I just can't imagine you guys doing that. So after basic training, what happened? Where did you go?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, after basic training, we went to Camp McCall. Not Camp McCall. We went to Fort Benning, Georgia. That's the parachute school. And we were there for about three weeks where we trained. And with the training started out, they just, you know, lectured to us and taught us how to pack parachutes. We had to pack our own parachute. And that made me a little nervous because we weren't real experts at packing them, but we packed them successfully. We would practice in the day doing different exercises from the parachute towers. And then on the final five days, we jumped on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, made five jumps. And we had to pack our chutes for four of those days. And that was a little concerning to me because I wasn't a really skilled parachute packer. But they opened. Obviously they did.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a good thing. How old are you now, Jody Lander? Ninety-six. Ninety-six years. Okay. Well, so you've done... What's that?
SPEAKER 07 :
I said an old 96. Very old 96.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think you sound like a young 96 to me. So after parachute school, after Fort Benning, where did you go?
SPEAKER 07 :
We went to Camp McCall, North Carolina. That was right next to Fort Bragg. Fort Bragg is now the... the airborne training center for the paratroopers and clouded people. Okay. That's in North Carolina.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Then are you soon on your way to Europe, or are you still in the United States for a little while? Oh, we were there.
SPEAKER 07 :
We got there in March, late March of 43, and we left in December of 43. We were there about eight months. Okay. Then we left to go to Europe. We had our... We had our final training at Camp McCall.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what was the trip like across the ocean to get to England?
SPEAKER 07 :
Horrible. We all got sick. Everybody was sick. We just couldn't do it. We couldn't do anything. I smoked, but I quit smoking. I couldn't stand the cigarettes for about 10 days after we landed. But everybody was as sick as they could be because in the wintertime the North Atlantic is very rough and we're on a small Troop carrier, and it really pitched. It really pitched in the high seas. But it was, I hate to say this, but vomit was running all over the floor. We were so sick. There was just a pool of vomit on the floor from us. We had to clean it up. I don't know how we did it, but when we had to clean it up ourselves, I don't know how we did it, but we did some way. I don't remember that. wow and were you did you have an escort or were you guys did uh by itself yes we we had we had a big it was a big escort we had a lot of naval ships and a lot of troop trips troop carriers going over so it was a big convoy okay and then where did you land we landed in north ireland we were They didn't have our camp ready in England yet, so we landed in North Island. We were so far north that it didn't get daylight until 9.30 in the morning. That's when we stood revelry. And it got dark about 5.30 in the afternoon. That's the only time I got enough sleep in the army. We didn't stand there until 9.30 when it got light, so I got plenty of sleep there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, well, you needed it with what you'd be going through in the future. So how long were you in Northern Ireland?
SPEAKER 07 :
We were there about three months from January, from about mid-January until April. We moved to Nottingham, England. We had a big... um camp a big tent camp there where we lived it was quite comfortable on the tent they had wooden floors that built and the tents were quite windproof and waterproof it was very comfortable there we had a lot of fun in north carolina i mean in nottingham that's where old robin hood used to roam oh yeah really okay well and so what was a day like when you were there in nottingham Or the paratroops? Well, we'd get up, well, we'd get up, it got light very early there. And so far north in the summertime, we got there around late April when we got there. And it was pretty, it was getting light around 6 o'clock in the morning. And finally around June, it didn't get, it got daylight about 4 or 5 in the morning. But we got up about 6.30. And we trained all day long. We went on marches. We had lectures. We had a couple of practice jumps. And we just continued the training, kind of our advanced training that we started in North Carolina. We just carried that out there from April of 43 until June of 44. When we made that jump and when the invasion started in Normandy. Okay. We were there a year. What's that, Jody? I say we were at Nottingham for a year before the invasion came. We had a whole year. Oh. And we had a lot of fun in Nottingham. It was really nice. We were the only troops around. And so all the young ladies, we had all the young ladies because all the British guys our age were in their army. And we had the girls all by themselves except for us. So we had a great time there.
SPEAKER 06 :
All the pretty girls. Let's move into then, moving to June 6, 1944, which is D-Day. What started to happen as the Allies started to prepare for the liberation of Europe on June 6, 1944?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we went to the airport about a week before. And, you know, I don't understand why the Germans didn't know this. I'm sure they had agents in England because one night they told us that we were going to the airport and we were restrained from going out. We couldn't go out anymore because they were afraid, you know, we knew what was coming up. And they were afraid that we would, you know... We drank a lot of beer then over there, and we'd get kind of a, you know, we couldn't keep quiet. We'd brag about what we were going to do. And we were restrained to quarters. So one night in Nottingham, all over England, one night, no soldiers showed up in any of the bars there or any of the pubs. And so the Germans should have known that, but they didn't. Some way we kept it secret. I don't know how, because every night above the English pub was just full of American soldiers. But one night they weren't. For about a week they didn't show up. So something was up, you know. Germans should have known that, but they didn't. They were completely surprised. Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
What time did you then get on the airplane to head over to Normandy?
SPEAKER 07 :
We got on about 9 o'clock, about 10 o'clock now. It was still daylight at 10 there because we were so far north. England was on double daylight saving time. The time up, two hours. So at 10 o'clock, it was really 8 o'clock, but it didn't get dark there until... In the summertime, it gets dark at about 10 o'clock in London. I mean, in England. We were in southern England. And so from daylight saving, it was about 12 o'clock at night before it got really dark. So we were... On the plane, about 10, we flew. We took about two hours of rendezvous. There were 10,000 planes in the air that night. And we had the rendezvous to get together because all the paratroopers were at different airfields. So we took off. There was 101st. There was 82nd. There was two American and Avalon divisions and one English division. And we all flew over together. So we had to fly for about two hours to rendezvous before we could get together because we took off from all over England. And about 12 o'clock, about midnight, we headed for the continent.
SPEAKER 06 :
How long did it take you to get there?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I don't know. It's not very long. I guess the Corsos 347 don't fly very fast, about 90 miles an hour. The top speed is about 120, but we cruise about 90 miles an hour, so it wasn't very fast. So it took us about two hours, I guess, after we started. We jumped about 2.30 in the morning when we released enough of our planes, about 2.30 in the morning on D-Day. The flight was okay, but when we hit the coast of France, We came in over by the Cherbourg Peninsula, and it was a stormy night. If you recall, the invasion had been put off 24 hours because of the storm on the North Sea. And so it was still cloudy and windy and stormy. So the clouds, the Germans couldn't see us. And it's good they couldn't because we only fly about 1,000 feet. The first planes come in about 1,000. I mean, the first planes come in about 400 feet, and the last ones are about 1,200 feet. And the reason for that is that each echelon is a little bit higher than the one in front of them, so the planes won't hit shooters when they jump. So we were flying quite low, and the crowd cover was so dense they couldn't see us, even though they did try to shine the big flashlights on us or the big searchlights on us. But they shot at us. They could hear us, so they put everything they had. and aimed it at us, and we could hear the shots, the shrapnel hitting the planes. None of us got shot down in our plane, but we could hear the shrapnel hitting the wings and the body. Nobody got hurt in our plane, but you could hear it hitting the planes. Some planes did get shot down, but we didn't. okay that's the only time i agreed to jump out of a plane because i knew it was going to be shot down because the aircraft fire was so heavy that we we just couldn't miss us but we we made it we didn't but that's the only time i was wasn't afraid to jump i was really anxious
SPEAKER 06 :
Get out of that airplane, huh? Well, hey, Jody Lander, let's go to break and continue then on with your story. This is Kim Munson. I am talking with World War II veteran paratrooper with the 82nd Airborne, Jody Lander. Stay tuned. We'll be right back.
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Welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website, americansveteranstories.com. We have the show recaps there and a lot of great information. On the line with me today is Jody Lander, World War II veteran. Jumped into Normandy on D-Day, June 6, 1944. He's part of the 82nd Airborne. Jody Lander, this is such a fascinating story. Let's continue on. You said that as you were coming into the coast, In Normandy, you came over the Cherbourg Peninsula, and you were taking a lot of anti-aircraft fire, and you were ready to jump. Was it just crazy as the planes were coming in? I'm trying to think, 10,000 planes. It had to be just wild that night.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I guess it was wild. It was. We, when we hit the, we were okay until we hit the coast of Normandy. And then that's when all the heck started because of the anti-aircraft fire. And we were fired at, it seemed like for hours, but really it was a short flight because we hit Normandy. We were coming across the Cherbourg Peninsula, and it's not very wide, you know, it's just a small place, but it seemed like we were in that plane for hours while we were being watched. But we finally got the red light, I mean, the green light, they have lights in the plane. And when the red light, when we stand up, they turn the red light on, and we stand up and hook up. And then when the green light goes on, the jump master jumps out, and we follow him. And so it seemed like between the red and the green, we were there for two hours. But it was really about 15 minutes, I think. And so when the green light came on, we went out. And I said a little prayer. I don't remember what I said, but I remember I said a prayer. And I said, here I go. Dear Lord, take care of me. And he did. He was real good to me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Wow. So you were coming in low, though, as well. Were you in one of the planes at 400 feet, or what was your altitude that you jumped from? I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
What happened when we hit the aircraft fire, the pilots could see the traces coming up, so they had to fly around it. When we did, we got way off course, and we missed a drop, though. We missed it. Of course, the pilots had no recourse but to try to dodge the bullets because if they flew into them, we'd all go down. So they did that, and when they did, we got off course and we missed the drop zone. So when we dropped, we were all by ourselves for about the first day. All our planes got together, everybody in our plane except two. One was, well except three, one was, two of them were captured by the Germans and one was, he landed there, a bunch of Germans, he landed and crawled into one of the hedgerows and stayed there for about 24 hours until the Germans left. And then he was able to get out, and he came on and joined us. But all the rest, there was about 18 in the plane, and all 50, the other 15 of us got together. Now, the two that were captured, they took them to Cherbourg, and when Cherbourg fell, we released them, and they came back and joined us. They were okay. They were just a little shook up from being captured.
SPEAKER 06 :
wow that's amazing out of the 18 guys that you eventually all got together so now you have this the 15 and of course the the other guy that just joined you after 24 hours because he was in the hedgerow what happens after that jody lander well we when i we when we landed we were i was shaking like a leaf
SPEAKER 07 :
And I couldn't, we had quick release to get a parachute harness and I was shaking so I couldn't release it. I have to tell you, we had a big sharp knife strapped to our, a dagger type knife strapped to our boots. So I took that and cut myself out, you know, cut the straps on the chute. The chute was not going to be recovered. They were gone. I mean, they were not going to be recovered. And, you know, afterwards I talked to some of the other troopers, and almost everybody cut themselves out rather than releasing themselves because they were, I think they were shaken too. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So is it really dark at that time then, Jody? Yes. Pardon? Was it really dark at that time?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, it was very dark. You couldn't see a thing because there were no lights on, and the cloud cover covered all the lights that came from the moon. I think we had a full moon that night, if I'm not mistaken, but it was so cloudy the moon didn't make any difference. We couldn't see it. So it was real dark, and you couldn't see your hand in front of your face.
SPEAKER 06 :
So how did you guys find each other?
SPEAKER 07 :
We just, when you walked, you know, we had so much equipment on that we kind of rattled, and you could hear each other. So I ran into, the first one I ran into was a fellow who was one of a German, He was a German youth that had, he was a German Jew and he had his daddy snuck him out of Germany to the United States to some friends that his father had over in the United States. And he joined us just before we left to go overseas. And he's the first one I ran into, and I gave his password, which was lightning, and the countersign that the person would give, gave back, was thunder. And thunder was selected because Germans can't say T-H. They say thunder. They can't say it. They just haven't been taught. There's no T-H in their language, so they haven't learned to say it. So I heard this babble of somebody walking. I said, lightning came back thunder. Well, that just scared me to death because I was a little out of the German there. Well, I thought I couldn't possibly be because the Germans, we didn't get our... passwords and counter signs until we just got on the plane. And they couldn't, no way could they know it. Well, I thought, well, that must be old Harry Kennedy. His name was Hans Kahn originally. And they changed his name to Harry Kennedy and put that on his dog tag. So if he got captured, they would think he was a irishman not a german but he spoke english very well but he had a great accent had a terrible accent or an accent but the germans couldn't pick that up and the reason he well what they're afraid of if he got captured they'd be shot for a as a traitor for leaving the country and coming fighting for us. So they had to protect him by changing his name and putting his name on Harry Kennedy on his dog tags. I've got an interesting story. If you give me your address, I'll send you a story. I've got it written up about him. He was an unusual young man.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I will be happy to do that. So when we get off the air, we'll go ahead and do that. Let's continue on, though. It's the first night, and so you are finding all the guys. What happens after you all get together? What do you do?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we finally, after I met Harry, we kept walking around until we found 15. I mean, we found the other 13 of the 18. So that made 15 of us. And so we didn't know where we were. So we found the road. We landed in a big field, a big vacant field, and we found this road, and we got on the road and started walking in the direction we thought we should go. We didn't know which direction to go, really, but we started out in a direction, and we finally came to a little town called St. Macouf. And when we found that town and it was on our maps we had, we knew where we were, and then we could head for the top zone where we would meet the rest of our division.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what was your mission that night?
SPEAKER 07 :
Our mission was to capture the bridge and prevent – my mission was to keep the reinforcers from coming up and attacking the – landing craft that were coming in to go land in the morning around 6 30 in the morning when they were to land so that was our mission we were to stop the we would see the bridge hold the bridges and we had to we were to blow them if we couldn't hold them we were to blow them to keep the reinforcing germans and coming up and meeting our landing craft
SPEAKER 06 :
Did you encounter any reinforcements?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, we didn't run into any Germans at all. I don't know where they were. They were real confused. See, we were—they were more confused than we were. We didn't know where we were, and they didn't know how many we were—where we were, because we had—they were—because of the aircraft fire, I said the pilots had to dodge the bullets. dodge the fire and we everybody got no one hit the drop zone very few hit the drop zone so we were screwing all over the peninsula and so they didn't know where we were and so we were successful in that regard because we were confused and germans were more confused than we were They didn't know where we were. They didn't know where to go. And they didn't know which direction we were in. We didn't know where we were either. So it was a confused night. But we were successful because the Germans did not get up to attack the landing force except at Omaha Beach. They were already there at Omaha Beach. That was the... That was the bad one for the landing craft. We were to protect Utah Beach, and Utah Beach didn't have near the fortification that Omaha had.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. It was really rough for the guys over there on Omaha Beach, but you were near Utah Beach. So now that you've all gotten together, then what happened?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, we walked all day, and we could see Germans in the distance, but just one or two or three or four, no big congregation of German troops. We didn't run into any resistance until nightfall. But we came to a big farmhouse around when it was getting dark that night, and so we thought that would be a good place to spend the night we were we were dead by the end we'd been up for 48 hours about we hadn't been asleep we hadn't we had over we had so much ammunition on us and so much equipment that we were awfully tired and so we decided we'd stop there for the night it had a big concrete a big stone wall around the whole compound so we that was a good place to to defend ourselves if we were attacked. And sure enough, as soon as the sun went down, we were attacked. And we had to stay up all night. We shot back and forth at each other. We don't know where we hit anybody. There was one fellow in my group that was killed, but he had found some cognac and gotten drunk and did something silly. I don't know what he did, but he did something silly and he was killed. He was not in our outfit. He was in 102nd. but we we had a big firefight all night long and then about since about daybreak the germans left and we didn't know why but the reason it did the landing people the troops that landed the utah beach were coming through that morning and they ran the germans off so we were very proud i mean very glad to see the the success of the landing because that saved us One of the fellows I was manning the wall with, we tried to take turns at manning the wall because we were so tired. I kept falling asleep. I mean, even with all the gunfire going on, I'd fall asleep. So we took little naps, take turns out to take a little nap. There was a big... The rock barn we went into, they were pretty safe, so we'd go in there and try to go to sleep, and there was no problem going to sleep because we just passed out every time we stopped or laid down or relaxed. And I was manning this wall with this fellow, and he was a corporal in the high outfit. And the Germans got close enough, they threw one of their hand grenades at us. Now, we call them potato mashers because they looked like a great big old potato masher. It had a wooden handle, and it had a big blob on it like the end of a potato masher. and he they threw it at us and he picked it up and threw it back at them we we don't know where he hit him but anyway though we knew that they had a they had about seven seven seconds uh fuse on them took it after they pulled a few to pull the plug a fuse would take about seven seconds before it explode i went off in about three seconds but there's a seven so we knew that we've been trained that they had that seven second So he picked it up. He took a risk and picked it up and threw it back. And sure enough, he picked it up in time and got it back and exploded in their midst somewhere.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is quite a story, Jody Lander. So, hey, I tell you what, let's go to break. This is Kim Munson with American Veterans Stories. And I am talking with World War II veteran Jody Lander. on June 6, 1944, to stand up against Hitler's regime. And so let's go to break. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. I am so honored to have on the line with me World War II veteran Jody Lander. He was with the 82nd Airborne in the European Theater during World War II. We're talking about his jump with the other paratroopers into Normandy, France on June 1st. And Jody has made the jump. 16 of the 18 guys have gotten together, and they have been in a farmhouse with a firefight with German soldiers. And they were near Utah Beach, which was the beach that they were trying to get to and protect. And our guys were coming in. They'd had a successful landing at Utah Beach. And you guys meet up. What happens then, Jody Lander?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, one thing I skipped over, I forgot it, just for the time being, but when we, down this road, we started down this road in the direction where we thought the guns were, and that's where the rest of our troops would be there, but they weren't, because they were strewn like we were all over the peninsula. Well, we'd gone about 100 yards down this road, and it was just getting daylight. And we ran into the first horrors of war, I'd say. We had a family, a French family, trying to escape the bombardment. We were real close to the landing zone for our seaborne troops, and so we came under the fire of our own gunships. And we had to get down in the ditches beside the road to be protected from it because we were really being bombarded for about 30 minutes from the battleships. And the reason we were, we were real near a gun emplacement, a German gun emplacement. It was a nine-inch gun that was trained on Omaha Beach. I mean, Utah Beach. And they were trying to knock that gun out, our naval forces were. Well, we were real close to it. We didn't know where we were, but we were close to it. So we came under this terrible bombardment. And this family, this French family of a mother, Two children, a father and a grandfather, we think, because by looking at their ages, that's what we guessed. They were a family. And they'd all been killed except the grandfather. But they took a direct hit from one of our 16-inch guns. And there was a little girl, about 10 or 12, a little boy about the same age. The mother and the father, they were all dead in the center of the road with this shell hit. And the grandfather was there with his, he was in shock. He had been hit and his foot was ripped wide open. And he was, he was lucid. But he was in shock. So we stopped. We gave him some cigarettes and gave him a shot of morphine to, you know, because that would knock him out and make him feel, knock him out and relieve the pain for a while. And we hoped that maybe some of our landing troops could come and take him and, you know, give him some medical help. We couldn't do it. We didn't have anything except a first aid kit with morphine in it. So we gave him that. And he was, what he was so happy about, we gave him a package of Lucky Strike cigarettes. And he hadn't had an American cigarette since the Germans had invaded France. And he was so happy with those cigarettes that he was just elated. And I thought that was kind of amusing. Anyway, that was the first horror of the war we saw, and I'll never have forgotten that. I think about it all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm sure. I'm sure that is the horrors of war. And, of course, as you mentioned, we were trying to soften up the beaches and to take out some of those gun emplacements to hopefully help protect our guys to have a fighting chance to get onto the beaches. So were they ever successful in taking that gun out, or do you know, Jody?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I don't know. I never didn't hear it. I think they were. They must have hid it. I've got a picture of it. I'll send you that picture if you'd like to see one of them. But it was a big, it was a 9-inch gun, and apparently they were successful because we never hit a fire. We were real close to it, but we didn't know it. And when I've been over there several times and I've seen that gun that they were trying to take out, and I guess they did. Of course, it's not there anymore anyway. It's been removed. But I guess they must have neutralized it some way because we never hit a fire.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well then, what happens after that? You mentioned this story about your very first seeing the hordes of war. What happened after that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, after that night, after when the landing forces came through and relieved us from the Germans, we asked them where they had come from. They said they came from Utah Beach, and we wanted to go out there to try to find the rest of our outfits so we could join them. So they told us how to get to there, and we went out there, and we spent the day there. And the night, and the next morning, we caught a... Truck that had found, that had taken some other troops and had taken some supplies in to our headquarters that was around St. Mary Glees. That's a little town in France. And so we caught a ride on that truck and we joined our regimental headquarters, which was the headquarters company of the whole regiment. We found them, and then over a period of about two or three weeks, all the extractors came in. We were a division again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And once you were... Did you just kind of hang out until you became a division again for the two or three weeks?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, we did. I mean... We did. We didn't do much until we got to everybody. It took about a week for all the extractors to come in, and then we started the war. i guess we started and we started moving forward and we had a number of battles and and i don't remember much about that i just remember that first night and things like that and the flight over in the first night but what happened after that i don't remember much Now, we were in a – I was in an S2 section, Regimental Headquarters S2. That's the intelligence section. And my section was responsible for – oh, I can't – well, I've lost the word. It happens to me all the time. What I mentioned was one of the nights when we were in a stable position, infiltrate the German lines and get behind their lines and find out what was back there. What kind of, how many people they had, if we could count them, we couldn't know. What kind of ornaments they had, what kind of big guns they had, how many tanks they had, such things as that. We were not successful in doing much, but we were successful in one regard. We made one, one time we went out and we We got through and got through the German lines and spent the day behind the German lines. We found a French farmhouse. It had a young boy in it, and he had been, you know, the Germans let the French roam all they wanted to. They didn't control them very much. And he knew where all the guns were, all the big guns, where the machine guns were, and where the tanks were. So he gave us that information, and we took it back. Well, the problem was when we came back, we had, we didn't know we were going to spend the night. We thought we'd come back, you know, before daybreak. But we were out so far and we didn't have time to get back before the sun came up. And you don't want to be walking in territory without daylight. So anyway, we had to hide. And that's when we found we hid in this house, this French house, with this young boy who had all this information. So we got all of his information, and we started back, and we captured it. The next night, we captured the two Germans. So we started back, and we got back. But when we got to our line, we realized we didn't have the password for the next day. See, we came back. We were 24 hours late getting back because we were supposed to go back the same night, but we couldn't. So we had the password for the first night, but the second night, we didn't. So when we got near our line, we started singing. all the American songs. We started yelling, don't shoot, don't shoot. We don't have the password. We went out for two days. We started singing that and singing all the war songs over there, over there. The Yanks are coming. The Yanks are coming. Anyway, we were successful. We got through our line without shooting at us. So when we got in, we reported to the regimental commander, he said, that was great information. Would you mind going back again? And of course, you don't say no to your regimental commander. We said, we will. We'll go back again. So we went back the next night. And next night, we found a young man had been hit by some shrapnel. And we were about a artillery fire going back and forth all day long and all night long.
SPEAKER 01 :
He'd been hit.
SPEAKER 07 :
He'd been out in the field and he got hit by the shrapnel and he was in sad shape. So he didn't have any more information to give us. But we spent the night again. We came back and this time we captured two Germans that were in the house and brought them back and we and our Our interpreters interrogated them and got some more information. And that was pretty good information we got because we were just at this time, we were getting ready for the breakout. And we were going to go right in the direction of where we'd been patrolling. So we had some information about where the big guns and tanks were. And our regimental commander was quite happy with that, so we were in good graces with him. And from then on, we... I don't remember much about what happened after that. We were there until mid-July. We were there about six weeks. But mid-July, we went back home. I mean, we went back to England to get ready for the next invasion, which was in Holland.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, Jody Lander, yeah, we are just about out of time for this show, so let's schedule a time. We talked about it to record for the next week. This is absolutely fascinating. And before we get to break, Jody, in your 96 years, what would you say to Americans today with all that we're facing today? What's the words of wisdom that you would give them today?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I'd say war is hell, but that one we had to fight. We had to fight that one. There's no choice because if not, Hitler would have conquered the world, I think, if we hadn't gotten into it. So all I can say is that don't do it unless you have to. If you have to, go in there to win it. Don't go in to try to contain. Just go in to try to win it if you can. That's my philosophy now. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jody Lander, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I will say, you know, we, like in Afghanistan and that, we didn't go in to win. We just went in to hold, I think. And if we didn't win, of course, what happens, you have to, if you win, you're going to kill a lot of civilians, innocent civilians. Of course, the Germans, we didn't care about them then because we were so mad because they attacked us, the Japanese and the Germans did. And we had to stop Hitler, so we had to kill a lot of the civilians to do it, but we did it. And that was a really big difference from going into Afghanistan and... in the Middle East and Vietnam because we tried to limit our damage and the killing of civilians. And when you do that, you just can't fight a good war.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yes, we can see that from history that it makes it much more difficult when we don't have the determination to win it. World War II veterans, it's such an honor to get to talk with you, Jody Lander. So we will continue the conversation next week. I greatly appreciate it. And so, Jody, we'll talk to you next week.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And if you, when you get through, let me, give me your address. I'll send you this copy of the Harry Kennedy story, of the Hans Kahn story. Very interesting.
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In this episode of the Best Stocks Now show, professional money manager Bill Gundersen provides a comprehensive analysis of the current state of the markets. From the U.S. government’s financial surprises to soaring Bitcoin and commodity prices, explore the landscape of market opportunities in light of global challenges. Don't miss their in-depth discussion on the implications of persistent trade disputes, key earnings reports to watch for, and the potential impact on various sectors.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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Good morning and welcome to the Best Stocks Now show, the Monday morning edition on July 14th, maybe the trade edition. We've got Bill B. on here in a minute. We've got a little technical difficulties.
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Didn't hear any music.
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Oh, go for it, Bill.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm here, here. I don't know, we got a little, hey, it's Monday. We've got a little bit of a downdraft to the market right now. The NASDAQ down 30, the S&P down 11, and the Dow is down 57. Now, look, the futures were down a lot more last night. with all of the trade turmoil taking place. So, you know, you can't be too concerned with a pretty decent open to the market, actually, considering all of the different factors, all the different turmoil we have in the world. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. You know, here's what's amazing to me, Barry. With all of the turmoil, with mostly the trade, I guess, and the Fed really not stepping forward and doing anything, keeping rates at the same rate, we've got new highs last Thursday in the NASDAQ. All-time highs, not 52-week highs, all-time highs. We have new 52-week highs in the S&P 500. We have new all-time highs in gold recently, over 3,400. You've got Bitcoin hitting a new all-time high today, crashing through 120,000 for the first time. You've had nothing but good reports on the jobs market here recently. And I don't know. I don't think probably the current administration gets enough credit. Okay, this is all left over from the Biden administration. You know, you can look at it however you want, but a fact is a fact. You're hitting new highs last Thursday, despite all of the hectic turmoil that has been taking place. And believe it or not, I don't know if you saw this, Barry, but do you know that in June, the U.S. government took in more than it spent last When's the last time? I was going to ask you first. When's the last time we did that? Well, I will say this. Usually every April, okay? Every April, you know, you get all those tax receipts. It's very unusual for June to actually, you know, I think the estimate was for $53 billion to the downside. Instead, we came in with a surplus income. A surplus of, I think, $41 billion. I'll get to that story here in a little bit. So anyways, there's a lot that's going right in the world today and in the U.S. today and in the markets today. And I don't know that maybe that we emphasize that enough. Now, the markets did close in the red on Friday. Both were down. Towards the end of the day, Trump started turning up the rhetoric on the tariffs. And I think everybody's received their letter by now. Did you get your letter, Barry? How much is your tariff over there at the Kite household?
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I got a college tuition letter, put it that way.
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Well, you know, I did see along those lines, I saw that the government is kind of backing out and lowering their exposure to student loan, the student loan market. They're going to let private enterprise take over. It hasn't been a very good investment for the U.S.
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I don't know.
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How much debt do you think we're carrying in defaulted loans or loans that are behind? On the one hand, the government should encourage folks to go to college, I guess. And on the other hand, does the U.S. government really want to be in the lending business? It has not been a very good business, and I'm sure we've racked up some pretty big losses. Now, on the other hand, you've got the private companies. I think SoFi is really putting a foot forward to address those markets. I'm sure SoFi won't be so friendly. I doubt that they'll just wave a wand and forgive all the student debt that they've lent over the years. I guess I'm a fan of it being more privatized. Otherwise, the taxpayers eat it. I mean, that's basically what it ends up with. So we've got Bitcoin soaring through 120,000 for the first time ever. You've got the S&P up around over 6,200, which is record highs. The Dow is the only index that hasn't made record highs here recently. And if you listen to the show enough, you know there's a lot of soggy stocks there in the Dow. And then you've had the NASDAQ busting through 20,200, and those are all-time highs on the NASDAQ. Now, in the background, we kind of work our way down from the global picture. down to individual stocks. Trump says the U.S. will send Patriot missiles. That's pretty much Raytheon, okay, for the most part. But the EU is going to fund it. Okay, now when's the last time you heard that? Yeah. I mean, not only did you hear about a surplus in June, President Trump announced Sunday that the United States will provide Ukraine with Patriot Air Defense Systems with the cost to be covered by the European Union. Okay, so in other words, it's our technology. It's our company, a U.S. company. There may be a few others involved, but Raytheon is the main player in the Patriot system. And, you know, we're providing, and they're going to pay up. So that's a little bit of a change from what we've done in the past and just – Not only sending Ukraine billions and billions of dollars, but sending them billions and billions of weapons with nothing in return. So that's quite a difference there between the last administration and this administration. I talked to somebody at church on Sunday who pretty much in on the know at Boeing. And he says that the cockpit chatter between the pilot and the co-pilot was the pilot asking the co-pilot, why did you just turn off the fuel supply?
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I read that. Yeah, I read a long story about that. And it was – they're not easy to – It's not easy to turn them off, and it's not easy to turn them back on. You've got to pull the switch out and push it up. I think it's covered by a covered switch. I don't know if that's something intentional. It seems like it would be hard to do accidentally.
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He says that he is an expert. He's one of the top engineers over there at Boeing here in South Carolina. And he said, it takes a lot of effort. I mean, you've got to know how to do it. And it is meant to not, oops, I just cut off the power, the fuel supply. You have to pretty much intentionally do it. And, of course, you know, the immediate reflex was to blame, uh-oh, Boeing's got a problem with their safety system. But it looks like a mass homicide here as it looks right now. That's according to somebody I know that's pretty high up in the engineer inspection bill. He checks all the planes before they take off, you know, the new planes. He's like the last guy to give the approval for them to leave the Boeing plant. So he ought to know. But he says it's the cockpit tapes. that pretty much tell all. Now, you're getting other stories in the media right now, so we'll see, but it definitely is not a Boeing problem. Okay, which happened on Saturday, maybe it was Friday after the close of the market, the EU was expecting a lot lower tariff than 30%, and they got their 30% letter and nearly had a heart attack. And Mexico also got their 30% letter. And I'm sure they're not happy. That's on August 1st. I think that's a hard deadline. I don't think there's any wiggle room on there unless they get really, really, really, really, really close to a deal. But that, you know, the EU was at 20%. That was the liberation. And then he cut it to 10% during the 90-day pause. Now he's going back to the 30%. So anyways, we'll see where that ends up. August 1st, two weeks out, a little over two weeks out. And, you know, Trump is saying that Mexico has helped in securing the border. But what Mexico has done is not enough in his letter to the president of Mexico, Claudia Scheinbaum. And, of course, with Europe, he's had some issues with Europe here recently. And then, of course, Brazil is at that 50% threat amount because of the way that they're dealing with their former president, Bolsonaro. So that's going to dominate the headlines this week. But that's not the only thing that's going to dominate the headlines this week. When we come back, we're going to talk about the earnings, the earnings that are already underway. We already have an S&P 500 company that has reported earnings. This is Bill Gunderson. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. You know, Barry, we may have to catch a Detroit Tiger game while we're back there in a couple of weeks in the Bloomfield Hills, Detroit area. Detroit is up 11.5 games on the Minnesota Twins. Kansas City is 12 back. Cleveland is 12 back. And the poor Chicago White Sox, they're 57 games out of first place. But those Tigers are on a roll, and I can't wait to go back to Michigan. Now, their manager, A.J. Hinch, he was our general manager in San Diego. Now, when they leave San Diego, they go on to win World Series and all kinds, like Bochy did with the Giants. But Hinch went to Houston first from San Diego, won a couple World Series, right? And then he got fired from Houston over the sign-stealing debacle and got hired by Detroit. What can I say? The guy's a winner. I don't know that sign-stealing makes that big. Oh, well, okay. I guess it does. If you know what pitch is coming, it certainly helps. But he lost his job over that, goes to Detroit, and they are 21 games over .500. We'll be there August 5th and 6th. That's a Tuesday and a Wednesday. Tuesday night I'm teaching a workshop, which I love to do, From 7 to 8.30 at the Kingsley Hotel in Bloomfield Hills. That's from 7 to 8.30. And then on Tuesday and Wednesday, we have a one-hour appointment set aside. All day Tuesday, all day Wednesday. You can grab an appointment. They are filling up pretty quickly. Call E-11 Best, 855-611-BEST, and you also need to reserve a spot to the workshop. Those are always full, usually close to standing room. We also need to know how many brownies to bake. Barry needs to know how many brownies to cook. 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. That's the Detroit-Bloomfield Hills trip, August 5th and 6th. Okay, European Union.
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It looks like the Twins actually play at Detroit. We might make a trip over there.
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The last trip we made, I sent all of you to the Detroit Red Wing gang to get you out of my hair so I could work, and you had a good time. You had a good time at the Red Wings. Okay, EU warns Trump 30% tariffs could cripple transatlantic trade as the block weighs retaliatory action. So that's where it stands right now, okay? with August the 1st looking like a pretty hard deadline, and Mexico also at 30%. There are letters in the mail. They got it. They opened it and saw the 30% tariff. See, I thought the markets would be down more than they are today. Actually, they're handling it pretty well. And you've got some countries that are already making some big concessions. Thailand mulls zero duty for U.S. goods. Okay, I don't know how big the Thailand market is. But they are saying, hey, you know, we won't charge anything on your goods coming in. We're going to open up our nation and have a zero percent tariff. So we'll see what happens. That was another thing when I talked to my Boeing friend. He said, man, they're rushing to get a lot of those planes out before the whole tariff situation hits, right? Especially the ones that were headed for deliveries up. Yeah, big time. He says we are getting those things out the door because of the tariff threat. Okay, so we have Thailand coming around. The EU is getting ready to impose $21 billion in tariffs on the U.S. if the trade talks fail. I think they're going to work it out. I think they'll work it out. We'll see. But, you know, it's going to come down to the wire. South Korea is open to allowing U.S. farm products in, which I'm sure would please our farmers. Across America, their top envoy said that reaching an in-principle trade agreement by August 1st is possible. That's South Korea, which is a pretty big trade partner, and indicated that Seoul may be willing to offer increased access to its agricultural markets. for us to sell our goods there into their country. And I don't know where Vietnam is at. They were surprised because they were at 10%. And, of course, that helped Old Navy and Abercrombie and Fitch and, you know, the Shoemaker, the Hoka Shoes, Decker.
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Decker, Nike, yeah.
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Yep, and then he raised it to 20%, which was a surprise to Vietnam, and it hurt all of those stocks. So I don't know where we're at there with Vietnam. Now we have a new wrinkle in the Fed chairman, Powell. He's in hot water. They renovated the Fed. They spent $2.5 billion. I don't know. I guess they got gold-plated sinks and toilets and whatever else. It was a $700 million cost overrun. It was the biggest project in Washington, D.C., building those palatial headquarters for the central bank. Can you believe it? Do we know if it's completed? Well, here's what Kevin Hassett says. This is the most expensive project in D.C. history. To put that in perspective, the cost overrun, just the cost overrun alone, $700 million is about the same size as the second biggest building overhaul in American history, which was the FBI building. He says the Fed has a lot to answer for. Well, I don't think Powell's going to be back. I don't think Powell will be back. I don't think that was a very well-managed project. And, of course, that's also a taxpayer expense, right? And then here's your surplus. We took in $27 billion more than we spent in June. Wow, I can't even believe it. We were expecting a $41.5 billion deficit deficit. The prior month we had a $316 billion shortfall, so that was quite a surprise there. The other surprise right now is silver. Silver has overtaken gold and broke out with a vengeance on Friday. Gold has cooled off quite a bit. Silver hits a 14-year high. So you can add that to the list of asset classes. You've got now the NASDAQ new high, S&P 500 new all-time high, Bitcoin, all-time high. Gold, an all-time high. Silver had that one weird little period of time when they tried to corner the market, the Hunt brothers. So you can't say it's hitting a new all-time high. But where it is now, it's certainly hitting a 14-year high. on spot silver and silver is also a it's tied to the economy also because it is also an industrial metal uh yeah interesting man it does both it does both yeah we don't put gold in a lot of industrial you know like wiring around the house and But silver is used a lot in a lot of different applications. Okay, when we come back, welcome to earnings season. It pretty much began today. The ball has been kicked off. Fastenal is running and returning the ball. We'll see how far they got. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersenCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show. Quick glance at the market here. The Dow's down 56. The NASDAQ down 27. The S&P down 12.
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There's still a lot hanging out there. the way of tariffs 30 seems to be the magic number right now with the eu with mexico and with canada and they're not happy and uh we'll see what happens here uh between now and it looks like august 1st going to be a pretty hard deadline now earning season is underway again Barry, we go through this four times a year. It's fun. I mean, it's fun to watch. Sometimes you get companies that come in and clobber, and sometimes you get companies that come up short, but it gives us a good clue as to where we're at in the economy. It gives us a good clue to where we're at with the sectors of the market. And it gives us a good clue with where the individual companies. Right now, the expectations for this quarter that ended on June 30th, 15 days ago, is for 4.8% growth over the same comparable quarter last year. So that's where we begin. Now, recent quarters, we've finished a lot higher. than what the expectations were. Okay, and we'll see if that pattern holds true. There's a couple things in effect there. On the one hand, the companies do a really good job of sandbagging and talking down the analysts so they can come in and beat. And that's why you usually get those numbers start nudging up as companies report. Right now, I think 4%. We've had 20 companies report so far in the S&P 500 report. The old earnings game as the CEOs deliver to it. The old earnings game. They like to beat estimates. What do you call that? Under-promise and over-deliver. Under-promise, over-perform. Exactly.
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Doing it the other way is not as good.
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The other way is not good. Okay, now, here's who we're going to hear from this week. I know Netflix is on the docket for this week. Netflix is probably the biggest one. Netflix has been a powerful stock recently. It's just amazing how they've continued to reinvent themselves and become the massive conglomerate. In that space, I mean, just swamping all other streamers and media companies and have also, I mean, pretty much upended Hollywood and how they make movies and distribution and everything like that. That will be a big one. We're going to get, let's see, second quarter earnings with a week full of report from companies. Big banks, JP Morgan, Wells Fargo. They're usually on Friday. Wednesday, we're going to get some health care stocks and semiconductors. Good old Johnson & Johnson, my favorite stock to pick on, is going to report on Wednesday. ASM Lithography at the other end of the spectrum, a very high-growth company out of the Netherlands, which makes the equipment that NVIDIA needs to make the chips. So a very key player in the AI space, ASML. Thursday is Netflix GE Aerospace, which, I mean, GE has had a fantastic, unbelievable comeback. under the uh leadership of larry colt we're going to get pepsi we call that a soggy soggy company it's a member of the dow but it's it's a single digit grower all things being equal a single digit grower is going to return in the single digits to investors that's the way it works because stocks follow earnings we're also going to get american express which is a very important financial. It manages to stay one step ahead of being a soggy stock, AXP. Actually, it's been a pretty good company over the years. We own that bond.
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It's been a good bond.
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Yeah, we own the bond. Bank of America is going to report. Goldman Sachs, which is, if you're going to own a bank stock, I would say it's the one. It's most tied to the tech sector, I would say, and it's always been a very good growth company. Morgan Stanley, another one I like to pick on, is going to report. Citi. Taiwan Semiconductor, that'll be a big one. Abbott Labs. 3M, which had a horrible report not too long ago, Schlumberger, United Airlines, and those are pretty much the docket. That's pretty much the docket for this week. So pretty important companies, actually. We'll get a good feel, I think. Usually the way earnings season starts that first week kind of sets a trend. And by this Friday, you know, we'll see if that 4.8% growth is going to go up or down. In recent quarters, it's had a tendency to just get stronger as the earnings came in. OPEC sees strong Q3 oil demand. So we'll see what Schlumberger reports. But overall, it's been a tough environment to invest in oil stocks, oil and gas stocks. I don't think we own. Well, we have one that we still own, but I just don't have any exposure. There's two schools of thought there. One school of thought is you want exposure to every industry across America. The other thought on that, and it's my thought, is I don't want to be in sectors that are struggling right now and have been struggling for a long time. The building sector is struggling because of interest rates. The energy sector is struggling. Why do I want to have exposure there? Well, diversification. I call it diversification, spreading your money into sectors that are underperforming the market. I would rather pick on and cherry pick the very best performing sectors in the environment that we're currently in. One of those is the utility sector, especially the alternative sector. nuclear-related sector, U.S. utilities are seeking the biggest hikes in electricity rates. Guess why, Barry? Data center demand is booming. So unfortunately, the little guy in Silicon Valley is going to pay for the big guy gulping up all that data center. But then again, the little guy is partaking of chat GPT and artificial intelligence in whatever way, you know, to get answers you're looking for or choosing restaurants or whatever the case may be. But electricity rates are going higher. because demand is going to outstrip supply here. I think we're already kind of at an inflection point. German defense minister calls arms makers to ramp up capacity. You know, I think they're a little nervous. over in Europe with Putin not backing down at all in Ukraine and looking like he wants the whole thing. And for them to pony up and pay for the Raytheon systems, the air defense systems, apparently Putin hasn't figured out how to penetrate those systems, which is a blessing. thanks to our technology but anyways you know the germany has some pretty good defense stocks and they've done very well this year rhein metal for instance and of course the one that i mentioned there's an etf that is just european defense stocks that was the number one performing etf at one time costco continues its aggressive pace of store openings now i'm surprised by that You wouldn't think that Costco has missed too many spots. They opened their largest store this past week. Where do you think? What state is known for it? It's got to be Texas. They only go big. It's got to be Texas. Go big or go home. Texas. Midland, Texas. Record crowds show up at the Midland, Texas Costco. But they're undergoing an aggressive expansion. One of the great retailers of all time. Earlier this year, they launched several new stores. Brentwood. Highland, California, Sharon, Massachusetts, Genesee County, Michigan, Prosper and Weatherford, Texas, and Stewart, Florida. Internationally, new locations have debuted in the Manami Alps, Japan, Australia, reflecting Costco's commitment to global growth. So it continues to be pretty decent. I mean, it's a single-digit grower, really, though. Maybe the high single digits. Kraft is considering splitting to unlock value. Well, I don't know where the value would be hidden, Barry. You know, they used to tease... Well, I mean, they used to advertise the slow ketchup. They turned that ketchup bottle upside down. Unfortunately, the stock... has matched the movement of the ketchup out of the bottle i'll just i'll just throw some numbers at you when we come back because the first thing i do is i look at the track record of a company and how they've delivered over the years have they underperformed and under uh promised and over delivered we'll see we'll check in on crap when we come back And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show where we love to feature and talk about really good management out there, really good companies that have turned in, obviously no guarantee that they'll continue to rack up their returns for investors, but I feel a little bit more comfortable investing in a company that has a good track record of delivering results for their shareholders, and I don't feel very comfortable at all. In fact, I avoid like the plague And I liken it to baseball cards. You turn the baseball card over to see the statistics over the years. And I just, you know, like last week I showed you ConAgra. Okay, let's look at another one. How about Kraft Heinz. Okay, on the front of the card, you've got Oscar Mayer or Ida. Kraft Mac and Cheese. Oh, you've all had that. Classico Spaghetti Sauce. Velveeta. Smart Ones. Jell-O. Who hasn't had Jell-O? Weight Watchers. Kool-Aid. I'm drinking a bit of Kool-Aid in my life. Capri Sun. And not the kind that the Jones people, the Jonestown. Philadelphia Cream Cheese. Okay, that's good stuff. Maxwell House. Grey Poupon. Pass the Grey Poupon, please. Now, let's turn the baseball card over. And if you have a portfolio at a big wire house firm, get the four-week trial to my app and look up every one of your stocks. And you're going to find, you're going to say, why in the world do I own Kraft Heinz? Okay, maybe there's a turnaround in place to unlock value. Maybe if they spin out the SpaghettiOs, there's some value there. I don't know. But let's just look at, here's what the stock has done. And this, one of the main reasons I did the app was for myself because I wanted to look very quickly at the first thing I look at. And the first thing I look at is their track record. Just like a player that comes up to bat for the Detroit Tigers, I haven't heard of a lot of those Detroit guys. We're in the National League with the San Diego Padres. So I want to look at the board. I want to see the batting average. I want to see the RBIs. I want to see the home runs to get a feel for this kid. Well, Kraft is no kid. In fact, John Kerry, you know, is married to one of the heiresses, Teresa Kerry Hines. But management over the last 10 years, minus 6% per year, Barry. Backwards. I've eaten box after box trying to boost that stock, and it has lost 6% per year, while the market has delivered 20% per year. Now, how does a CEO... Yes, it's the food sector. This is not a glamorous sector. This is a... This is a low-margin business. But still, I'm an investor. I want my portfolio to grow. I want my IRA to grow. I have no confidence in a stock that has lost investors 6% per year over the last 10 years that it's going to turn itself around over the last five years flat. Over the last three years, minus 6% a year per year. Over the last 12 months, it's down 10.5% while the market's up 11.2%. You say, well, this is probably dripping with value right now. Well, my five-year target price gives it 58%. upside potential where we like 80 or more and it's ranked 3253 out of 5106 now tell me that's not valuable information to know about the stocks that you own in your portfolio well and the good things you can see it and just move on and just move on put your focus on the 400 stocks that are actually investable at the moment Exactly. And I mean, this one will probably never be investable unless they really come up with something big. But now let's look at the institutional ownership of the stock. Oh, they love this thing back on Wall Street.
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50%.
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What do you show as institutional ownership? I show 50 here on my IBD, on my MarketSmith, MarketPulse. They keep changing the name. MarketSurge, I guess it is. Suffice it to say, it's heavily owned by the institutions. The institutions got to place that stock somewhere, and they place it in the folks' portfolios.
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I've got on KHC, Kraft Heinz Company, 83.26%. Okay, there you go.
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Institutions. And they trade those stocks amongst themselves. I swear they do. so i'm not sure half the way i think is probably the institutional owner that doesn't show up on the uh... on the number you're looking at it from that was all okay because there may be not considered an institution not quite right exactly and you know i mean he has to own big big old stocks like this and he's probably on craft for a long long time okay salesforce keeps its buy rating bank of america now salesforce you're gonna see better numbers on salesforce My issue with Salesforce is recently it hasn't done a whole lot. The valuation is pretty rich on Salesforce, a member of the Dow, one of the tech stocks in the Dow. My target price for Salesforce, 74% upside potential. I like 80 or more. That's a heck of a lot better than Kraft. I mean, I would own, if it came down to two stocks, Salesforce over the last 10 years has delivered 13.9. Not that great, really. The S&P is 20.2. And over the last five years, it's only delivered 5.5% per year. The S&P is almost 20% per year. So Salesforce is ranked pretty low, and for that reason, it's not one we own. It's ranked 3,155 out of 5,106, yet... Bank of America, which is basically Merrill Lynch, they got a buy rating on Salesforce and they're all over it. Okay, Wedbush says that there's robust cybersecurity growth. Well, you know, we've said for a long time that CrowdStrike and Palantir, a couple of huge players there in cybersecurity, Then you've got Palo Alto right there with them, but not quite the growth that CrowdStrike has. And you've got a few others. You had Zscaler and some others. Well, we talked about quite a few stocks, trade, we talked about earnings season, Detroit, August 5th and 6th, to reserve a one-hour appointment with us while we're there over those two days, Tuesday and Wednesday, or to come to the workshop Tuesday night, 855-611-BEST, or to set up an appointment with us from anywhere in America, 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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Now, here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. And it's Ready Radio, KLZ 560. 7-11 is the date today for listening to a replay show. Thank you so much for listening. We appreciate it greatly. Bill Anderson joining us today. Bill, welcome. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you, John? Good. You have a good Fourth of July and all that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I spent the Fourth of July holiday weekend building chicken coops. So it's always a good time to get caught up on stuff.
SPEAKER 05 :
You didn't fly the coop. You built the coop.
SPEAKER 13 :
I built the coop, and we went and saw them. Fireworks show over there at Clement Park on, what was it, Thursday, and then we went to the Rockies game on Saturday.
SPEAKER 05 :
So we got enough fireworks shows, so of course we just stayed home. Very good. Well, and for a lot of folks that were enjoying fireworks and celebrating the day and all of that, the folks in Texas, which we're going to talk about today, were not so lucky. Not all of Texas, because Texas is very big, but there are portions of Texas, as we now know, hit extremely hard by flooding this past week actually some flooding in New Mexico as well not near the loss of life there of course that was happening or that has happened I should say in Texas they're still you know sifting through things and all of that Bill I've been watching different videos and you know different folks and businesses and so on that have been affected by that and again one of the things I wanted to talk about today because that's one of those subjects Bill that Really, as we can tell from these particular floods, they can happen to just about anybody, anytime, anyplace, depending upon the amount of rainfall that is happening at any given time. And here in Colorado with, of course, our canyons and the things that we have and people that camp and go in the wilderness and the woods and so on, we'll get into a lot of those things because depending upon where you're at and what you're doing, you just have to be extra vigilant.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and I think one of the most irritating things about all this, I'm sure we'll get into it, is we have a tragedy on our hands. We've got, you know, hundreds of people found dead. Right. Another, I don't know what the number is, missing. And, you know, everybody just wants to politicize it. And it's just nonsense. It's a little ridiculous. I agree. Yeah. You know, we can get into that a little bit later, but it's a little disheartening. You know, I mean, we know people, like, in our neighborhood that, yeah, my aunt and uncle, you know, left town, went down there camping, and they're gone. Wow. And, you know, we had some people that had moved from our church that actually live down there, and, you know, they're up on a hill, so they weren't affected. And I said, oh, but you are affected because your whole community just changed, you know. And so it's personal. I mean, thank you. you know, kind of ground like that, it doesn't mean it's affecting local people. I mean, there's a lot of people from out of state that are down there visiting, and, you know, you're here one minute, you're gone the next, you know, and the frustrating part about all the news outlets and stuff like that is like, oh, it's Trump's fault because he cut funding, and it's just a little ridiculous that, you know, the saying is true, you know, don't let a good tragedy go to waste or whatever it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Crisis go to waste.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's... It's really disheartening, but it also just kind of reinforces what we talk about here, and that's, you know, don't put your hope and your trust in the government. Don't put your hope and your trust in an emergency broadcast system that may or may not be there. Exactly. You've got to have your wits about you, John, and if you're going to go camp next to a river, you know, you should have this at the forefront of your mind. What if? You know, and hopefully... through the time that we spend here on Fridays, is we at least bring that awareness to people. Because I'm going to tell you, we have to stop relying on other people. That's what the whole idea of self-sufficiency is. Hey, I can't count on the government. And you should never put yourself in a position where you've got to be at the government's mercy, per se. Because I tell people in my church all the time, I say, hey, people will let you down. Governments will let you down. Society will let you down. The public defenders, the police, the people that are public servants, I should say, will let you down. And it's not necessarily their fault, but sometimes they're strapped.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're meeting a lot of needs. I'm glad you just said that, Bill. We shouldn't, by the way, be reliant on... any of those agencies. And frankly, I don't want to be relying on anybody. I want to be, as you just said, we want to be self-reliant. That's why we talk about a lot of the things we talk about here. And I don't want to rely on anybody. Maybe it's in my DNA from an early age. I don't know, Bill. I've been one of those guys that I just, you know, from an early age, I want to do it myself. You know, let me do it. Let me figure it out. Let me handle it. Let me buy that. Let me do this. Let me do that. You know, you name it. You know, I didn't want to I didn't want to have to, you know, I guess rely on anybody else for things. And maybe some of that's, you know, a little bit of pride. And if that's the case, then I'll have to, you know, I guess I'll have to answer for that separately, Bill. But I think for me, in some cases, it was a little bit of pride that I want to do this myself. I want to say that I've accomplished this. I don't want anybody, you know, taking, you know, not only credit for that, but, you know, I want to be credited for doing X, Y, Z. I don't want to rely on anybody else to make that happen. That doesn't mean that you can't learn, and I have, even from folks like you. So, I mean, I learn daily from all sorts of people. I'm not saying that we can't learn from others, but I don't want to be reliant on others.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that's a difference, right? I mean, we help each other out. I call you, hey, John, help me here, help me there. Because I don't know everything, right? But when I just lay on the couch going, John, you've got to come save me. You've got to come do this for me. I can't do it without you. That's a different attitude. And I think some of that also is generational because you're a little bit older than me, but we're part of the latchkey, I guess, generation. I remember coming home to an empty house because both my parents worked. If I was hungry, I had to figure it out. There was nobody there to help me along to answer my questions. Some of that's just ingrained. It is a lot easier, especially with the advent of AI, which we had talked about in the past, and just the resources of, hey, it's information at the fingertips. I can get this right now. There's a fine line between Having the information and then actually implementing it, which we've talked about, we've beat that dead horse over and over and over again. But there is a fine line that you have to understand that, you know, I can't just sit here and be, hey, take care of my health government, take care of my welfare, take care of my security. Because at the end of the day, they've got their own agenda. And while we can get up in arms about it, and that was one of the first things, you know, that conversations I started having with people, they were all mad because the emergency broadcast system wasn't there. And how dare they? And I'm like, you're barking up the wrong tree. I mean, yeah, are those things important? Sure. But the mindset is that they're trusting in the government and telling them that emergency is going to come instead of just taking the position, John, of going, Life sucks. Things are going to happen. And I need to be, here we go, ready for whatever life throws at me.
SPEAKER 05 :
So for those of you listening, and I'm going to cover a few things today, and if we get to all of this, great. If not, we've got always next week, Bill. So if we get it all in today, great. If not, we've got next week. So I'm not too worried about that end of things. But really on the top of my mind is, to your point earlier, there were people that We're in this area that weren't regulars there. There's, of course, people that had lived in this area. But, you know, we had people that were there that were at camps, and they were camping and doing different things. We have the same thing that happens here in Colorado as well. We can have flash floods. We have had flash floods. We've had loss of life. We've had some of those things happen right here in our own back door. And some of what I'm going to talk about today, folks, is, yes, it's kind of specific for – For flooding, although, Bill, some of what we're going to talk about in the preparedness of things, I think you could even apply to wintertime, heavy snow, things along those lines as well. And what I mean by that is, number one thing that I think people should do that most don't, by the way, because we rely so much on. know gps and it's going to take me where i need to go and just follow the instructions and by the way i'm not i'm not against that we all use it and it's a great tool but when it comes to i'm going to go camping for a week or i'm going to go hunting or i'm going to go do whatever and it's an area that maybe i'm extremely familiar with or maybe it's a new area that i'm just entering and what i mean by that bill is again that whole situational awareness do i have a topo map of where i'm going and what i mean by that is what's upstream what's downstream you know What's around me so that as water, if in fact things start to get heavy and water starts to flow, what's going to happen? In other words, what's above me to create more of a rush of water? How many channels and other areas, how many other canyons, I guess you could say, Bill, are going to start filling up the area where I'm at that's going to be upstream? On the same token, this is things folks forget about, is what's downstream? Are there several culverts, bridges, things like that, to where as all that debris starts to build... It creates its own little dam, therefore backing all of the water up, which, again, is things that happen that most people don't think about on the front. So my point, Bill, is is knowing where you're going on the front side and what's going to be around you. And then I'm going to go one step further and even say for those of you that go out and camp and do things like that. And I know sometimes you just get assigned a slot and that's all it's going to be. You don't have any choice on where you're going to end up in the campground. Partially, Bill, while I don't camp anymore, so that's another discussion. But regardless, I, if I had my ability to choose a campsite, especially now with all of this that's gone on, I don't want to be right next to the river, Bill. If I've got to walk a little bit to get to the river... So be it. If I can be several feet above the river to even give me a little bit more time to get out of there than what folks next to the river would be, well, of course, that's what I would want to take. And there's a lot of those little idiosyncrasies. I'll throw this to you to get your thoughts. But I just wonder how many people actually do some of the prepping of what I just said.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I would say very few because a lot of times they're going to say, oh, well, the campsite developers or the camp, counselors or the people that run the camp, they know what's best. You know, we put our, again, we put our safety and our trust into those, you know, above us or that are supposedly controlling the situation. And, you know, and I'm not saying that that's necessarily a bad thing, right? But there's that whole trust but verify saying that we always have. Right. You know, it's no different. It's a mindset. It's a lifestyle. It's developing a lifestyle that always is, hey, what am I ready for? You know, when we go into the restaurant, wherever they seat me, you know, sometimes I can go, hey, I don't want to sit here. Can we sit over here? Sometimes you have that option. Sometimes you don't. And so it's like, okay, here's my spot, whatever it may be. Where's my exits? What's the I mean, this is this has to become automatic. Correct. Parking. It even starts before.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And part of the courses that we teach, too, is, you know, you can get you can get extreme with it. But I'm going to tell you something, John, this is what I always tell people that that always come back with the statement of, well, that's a little extreme. That's a little excessive. And it's like it's it's extreme and excessive until it's not right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You need it.
SPEAKER 13 :
And yeah. And so it's like, OK, we're going to go. we're going to go on to, to Parker, let's say, and we're going to go to the Costco or whatever it is. It's like, okay, you know, there's a point where I'm going to plan my route and, you know, I've done it so much that I kind of know where I'm going. Oh, there's a, there's a part, there's a jam on Parker road. Okay. Well, what road can I, can I still, you know, divert to, to go? I mean, this comes develop on my mind, but if I'm in a new area, I'm looking at that map or Google or whatever, but a map is always good because you can't rely on technology. You can't rely on, hey, I'm always going to have power from my phone. We have that little map and we're like, all right, let's plot a course here and oh, by the way, let's take notes of where's the police station. And by the way, you can, you know, use technology to do all this. Hey, where's the closest hospital? Where's the closest urgent care? Where's the closest, you know, police station? Where's the closest, you know, we were up in, I didn't tell you this story, but we were up in out through Rappaport County Fairgrounds, if you know where that is out there. I got the horse track, and I think, what's that park out there? Aurora Reservoir, I think it is. We were out there for a gymnastics competition for one of my granddaughters, and a storm turned on, and these things turn on like right now. And hail and hail. My first thought was, where's the tornado room? Where's the tornado shelter? And I went, John, again, people think I'm stupid, but I went and found it. And it was locked. And I'm like, well, that does us a lot of good.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that helps a lot.
SPEAKER 13 :
But at least I knew where it was. And I started, I looked, you know, we went out there. I took a look outside to see the hail falling. And I looked at the almost all public buildings will have an evacuation map. That's right. Or some kind of a map right there. I took a look at that. That has to become your mindset. It does. So when we pull into the parking lot, hey, how am I getting out of this parking lot? When I go into the restaurant, how am I getting out? So now to carry on to bring this full circle back to your question, hey, I'm camping here. Okay, what's the highest hill? And listen, you get into the practice, John, it doesn't take a long time. You're not talking about a 20-minute, half-hour, even an hour research project. Once you start to develop these skills, you'll start to recognize them. It becomes a lifestyle, and you'll be like, okay, hey, there's a high point. Here's a low point. Oh, there's a weakness here. There's a danger here. remember when we used to go camping what do they tell you don't camp underneath lee trims and you know dead burnt trees and you know you start to think about these things because the stuff could fall on you this is this is what they taught us you know way back when boy scouts or whatever it was just your basic stuff you know that everybody kind of learned when they were young that those things are forgotten now because this is what and this is the danger of the political system this is the danger of ai this is the danger of all this stuff Because what they're saying, John, is, hey, trust us. You can trust us. Trust the science, John. And everybody's like, oh, yeah, this guy said trust the science. But nobody knows what the science even is.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great point. Great point. John and Cheyenne, you've got some comments as well. Go ahead, sir. You're welcome.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, first thing I want to throw out there is I got to throw a big shout out to T-Mobile and Starlink. I signed up for the beta. for Starlink texting. And I've used it a bunch of times. I've been up in zero cell service, no for a fact, because I've hiked these trails. And all of a sudden, my phone buzzes, I get a text, you're connected to Starlink, or they call it T-Space or something. But it tells me I'm connected and I can communicate. And I read the beta test is just about over, and I think my plan will have it automatically, but I'm going to sign up for it even if it doesn't. But I also read on T-Mobile's website, if you're a Verizon or an AT&T customer, you can sign up for like a $10 a month fee.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that right there... John, can I cut in real quick? Because I... Sure. Listen, I tried and tried and tried to get in that beta test. They accepted me. I happen to have Verizon... It was a major pain, and it never went through. I had to contact Verizon for another e-chip number, and it was a mess. Oh, man. I was really struggling with it, but I was super excited about that. It's even got me thinking I've been a Verizon customer since the 90s. But I'm like, man, maybe I should switch. That's why they're doing it. Yeah, I'm glad you're getting success for that. But I wanted to share, I tried and tried and tried. And as a Verizon customer, it was very hard. And I never even was successful at it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Three years ago, we got caught in a massive downpour, hailstorm coming out of the Wind River Range. We got drenched. I mean, we were heading for the car, so that was the only good thing. But there wasn't one dry stitch of clothes on us when we got to the car. And my wife's phone got soaked. And it was dead. And my daughter, who was Navy at the time, she's currently retired, she said, Dad, go to T-Mobile. You're a vet. They'll give you a great price. So I went. And they said, well, you don't need to give us your vet price because you're over 55. We'll give you your senior price. So either way. And I cut my bill down. From T-Mobile, going from Verizon, going to T-Mobile, transferred my number and everything, did not change anything, got a new phone, cut my bill in half for the last three months.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good for you.
SPEAKER 12 :
And so before you extend the contract again or think about it, shop around. The other thing I tell people, and John, I'm sorry, we got off this subject.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're fine. No, this is good info because it still applies to what we're talking about.
SPEAKER 12 :
There's a website called CellMapper.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
And you can look up the nearest, and I'm not saying the service coverage, those maps are not super accurate. This will show you the nearest cell tower to your house. So then if you're like me, I'm out in the middle of nowhere. If you're making a decision on who you're going to go with as a provider, AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, whoever, well, if you live out a little rural, you know, you might want to get the service on the cell tower closest to your house.
SPEAKER 04 :
Great point. Not have to worry about it. Great point.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, but going back to what you were talking about, when we go backpacking and we backpack all the time and, you know, but we were going to go today and there's a forecast for thunderstorms in the mountains. So we said, ah, we'll just go, you know, overnight tonight to this afternoon into overnight. We're like, eh, we'll just go for a long day hike tomorrow. And that's what people don't do. They don't look at the weather forecast and say, okay, do I really want to go spend a night in the rain, or do we want to just forego camping overnight?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 12 :
And that's what gets you in trouble. The same thing, what Bill says, we do that all the time. If you go backpacking in the national forest, you'll see signs. Mostly it's no camping within 100 feet of any water source and 100 feet of the trail. So they're telling you right away, don't camp next to the river in case something happens, the creek, the stream, whatever it is. We always look for a little higher spot on the opposite. So say you're hiking along or backpacking along a creek trail. We'll always try to find on the opposite side of the trail from the creek. So maybe we're 200 feet from the water. Well, I don't give you enough time if the creek does come up to even worry about it, but If you're even thinking about that, go up 100 feet in elevation. Find a better camp because people just don't know that. And the other thing, and we bought this years ago for the Wind Rivers. We have the maps of it, and they came laminated. And Bill's going to love this. I got an old grease pencil, and I map my route with a grease pencil on the map in my pocket, even though I'm using Onyx Backcountry, which is a great, great app. And it works without, you can download your route and map to your phone and then have offline maps and it'll track you and it'll let you know where you are. And it's a great thing. Having that map in my pocket and that compass in my backpack just is an added level that if we get lost, where are we? And then the other thing is I see so many people doing this and I'm going to encourage everyone again. is get a water filter. They're $30. They're $40. Throw it in your day pack. This way, you're never without at least some drinking water. Great idea. Did I tell you my wife's cousin, he did the Colorado Trail. 27 nights on the trail, 486 miles at 64 years old with a replacement hip. God love him, right? This was a few years back. The last night, he forgot, and he said he was just above Durango. It's like the last night you camp, and then it's like a 15-mile hike into Durango, and you're done, right? If you go in southbound. He forgot to put his tablets in to purify his water because he was using tablets to save weight. Four days after he was back, he got Giardia.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
And he said he lost as much weight with the Giardia while the antibiotics cleaned it up than he did walking 486 miles in 27 days. That's how bad it is. Wow. So that's why I tell everybody, even if you don't want to carry a filter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Go get the drops.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great idea. John, have a good day. You betcha, John. Appreciate you very much. Great segue. We'll come right back. Myself, Bill Anderson, Ready Radio. It's ready-radio.com, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And we are back. Ready Radio. KLZ 560. Myself, Bill Anderson. John from Shan calling a moment ago. And, Bill, in lieu of that, you were looking through the break and sending me some things along the lines of, you know, how to handle the water situation and so on. And I would say that, you know, if you find yourself in that situation, and one way to be prepared, and John is spot on. A, the communication thing is huge. B, having fresh water, drinking water, as you know, Bill, depending upon where you're at, your circumstances, what's around you, and so on, having fresh drinking water, you just can't go without it. It's a must.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and that's something that we really have to keep at the forefront of our mind because... you know, John nailed it on the head, right? You know, let's just say all kinds of things go crazy. Your biggest threat is sickness and disease. And so, you know, now let's go back to this flood topic real quick. You know, why I told our friends that had moved and now live there that, oh, they're okay. I said, well, now you've got contaminated water. I'm not going to say the water was good to begin with, but now you've got, you know, unfortunately dead bodies in there. You've got dead animals in there. You've got you know, septics that could be leach fields that could be overflowed now into that water system. And you think, oh, I'm next to a river. I'm good. I've got water. And it's like, man, that'll kill you faster than anything is getting sickness, you know, from the water. That's right. And so there's, you know, there's a couple options. I mean, even Costco at one point had a, I think it was like a three or a four pack of the little mini life straws. That's right. You know, pretty, pretty small.
SPEAKER 05 :
I buy those anytime they're on sale just to throw them in the bags and have them.
SPEAKER 13 :
And there's debate of like, well, you know, Hey, at least something's better than nothing is my point, you know, and it might just get what you need to get out. There's also a water bottle that I have called the grail. And it's a water bottle, and you scoop up your water out of whatever, but it has a self-contained filtering water system. So you press it down, and it kind of works somewhat like a Berkey maybe without the pressing mechanism, but it has that kind of a filtration in it. And then the other one that I have, it's really small, but it's called the H2Go, and it's about $120 or so on Amazon. The Grail is about $100 on Amazon, and I have all of these, by the way. But the Grail is a little device that actually you can make your own, like hydrogen peroxide, kind of a bleach solution, if you will, that you can dump into a source of water to purify it. So you're basically becoming your own water purification plant with that little system. And I don't understand all the ins and outs with it, But from what I can understand, I mean, that's a pretty solid thing. This is something that they use in third world countries to purify wells and water barrels. And, you know, if I've collected, you know, like an IBC tote, I was asking you for some IBC totes a couple weeks ago, or a 55-gallon rain barrel, you know, I don't want to just go out there and crack that and start drinking. And it's like, man, I might need to purify that. So I go to this H2Go and create the little solution, a couple of drops in a 55-gallon barrel. Guess what? I've got purified water. And, you know, people could say, well, you could carry bleach. But, you know, now I'm starting to add more things. At the house, it's not that big a deal. But, you know, hey, this is on my bodies. I have this. on the go. And now if I'm wherever I am, I can purify water that way too. But that's a, that's a big thing. Water is a huge deal. It can, it can come in a flood, right? It can also come contaminated. Right. And we got to have water to live.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And so, you know, you get super thirsty, you're going to be like, I'm literally dying of thirst. So I'm going to go ahead and drink that water. It may be fine for a little bit, but then as John said, three, four days later, you know, you're going to die because, you know, now you've got diarrhea, which is going to make you more dehydrated. And, you know, it goes on and on and on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. I did get a question in because this is a little bit off topic, but it goes to the preparedness end of things. Somebody said that they started using the gravity-powered irrigation garden pots, the Ola terracotta pots, and wanted to know if you use those. I don't, so I don't have any familiarity with those at all. Bill, do you use those?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, remember the... the tower garden that I told you about that I had in the box for four years. I've got those in a box too. I was turned on to them from the movie homestead and they had them. And so if you have angel network, you can go into a little behind the scenes. They have a little mini series on homestead. They kind of like based on the movie, here's how you can create your own homestead. And they actually talked about those. And so it's, it's like a little five gallon bucket or whatever with a, you know, a drip system or a little quarter-inch line that goes down into these terracottas that you put. And the only reason I have not used them is because all of my beds already have drip lines in them. That's the only reason. But, hey, that's a great way to go because, you know, if you don't have, like, let's say your bed's, you know, away from the house and it's like, okay, I've got to run sprinkler lines all the way out there or I've got to put this. You know, it's no energy required. So I have some, but I can't speak from experience because, yeah, they're still in the box.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, good to know. All right, going back to you guys, you know, being prepared and the water thing we've talked about. And, Bill, before we move on to it, I want to make sure that you threw out there, too, and we're getting several different things from folk on, you know, what type of filtration to use. And what I would say on that, I think everybody's sort of got their own thing that they like, Bill. And I'm not going to say one is, you know— Some will, but I'm not sold on anyone. As long as you've got something that you know, you are familiar with, you can go ahead and get the water purified. You're able to drink it. I'm one of those, Bill, where you just do your research, make sure it's not some fly-by-night company that's not going to do its job because, to your point, the last thing you'd want to do is be sick. But all of these have the ability for you to review, check them out, test them out. There's also, like you say all the time, Bill, plan ahead, do some testing on the front side. There's plenty of water around where you could actually test these to see whether or not they're going to filter out or not. Here's my view on it. Once you find something you like, just stick with it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. It has multiple systems. I'm always a big believer in that, right? Because even, let's say you've got the H2Go, which does require electricity to run. You can charge it from a USB, a solar, whatever. But let's say, oh, my goodness, my device is not charged. So what am I going to do? I've got to wait for this thing to charge up. So now I go to my backup thing. And you also have to... Ask the question, what's the context here? So, you know, in the house, I'm on a well. And the first thing I would do if I were you on a well is, one, make sure I've got power to continue to operate the well. And then the very next thing I would do, just personal opinion, is I would put in a reverse osmosis system. Because even though you have a well, and, you know, I was one of those people that went around, I was like, oh, yeah, I've got a well, I'm good. Hey, listen, the water can become contaminated through the groundwater as well. And one of the problems with the well water is, you know, are you testing it? You don't know what you got in there. Something could have seeped in there, you know, and you could be thinking you're good to go because you're on, quote, well water. But yet, man, you're, you know, like here's a perfect example. And something I'm very concerned about right now is I've got this like teal tint tank. at the bottom of my shower, and I'm like, what in the world is all this? I was thinking maybe it was the hydrogen peroxide system. We took that out. I still have it. Got water softeners, still got all that stuff. Now my reverse osmosis is just for my drinking water. It's not for the everyday water. But we did a little search online, and it's like, oh, that's an indication that your copper pipes are starting to deteriorate because your water is so acidic. And I'm like, holy cow. And, you know, the Internet, of course, maybe there's an expert out there that could chime in. But they're like, replace those copper lines quickly because you're now getting that into your body. You know, and you're not drinking it, but your skin's the biggest organ. So in the shower, you're absorbing it. That's right. So, you know, you've got to talk context. So in the house, I'm going to have a reverse osmosis system. I'm going to check my water. You can go down to Home Depot and buy a water check thing. It may not be as good as the professionals. There's probably well companies that can come out there. Maybe they can shock your well, which I don't know. Maybe you can speak to this, John. But from my understanding, that's supposed to be done yearly. I've never done that before, so I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and that one – I, uh, that's a new one on me. I've never heard of, I mean, I've heard of what you're talking about. I've never heard of somebody saying you should do that on an annual basis. So if somebody out there is listening and you want to add to that, please send me a text message. I'll talk about that. 307-200-8222. That's a new one on me, Bill. And I, yeah, that's above my pay grade. Let's just say it that way. I don't know.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And you could talk about, yeah, you could just throw some bleach down your well, but then the, you know, the The internet research there was like, you got to be careful because you just got to use the proper amount. And I guess there's well companies that will come out and do an annual service for, I don't know, but, you know, kind of going back to, hey, we better start thinking about our water. Now, here's the thing with city water, right? When they put out a water advisory or a don't drink your tap water. Guess what? They've done that after they've already found it. There's a problem already.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
How many hours, how many days have you already been drinking it before they said, oh, hey, we've got a problem? So I'm sorry. I'm rambling on.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, you're fine. It's all good stuff. Okay, so really quick before we take another break here, which I'll probably just run this one out a little while anyway, so we're good. on the whole preparedness thing on, you know, you're going to go to an area that maybe you're not familiar with. You're, you know, you've planned. And by the way, Bill, here's the other thing I think that happens at times, and I don't know about what happened in Texas as far as this goes, but sometimes there's group trips where somebody gets the big idea of, hey, let's go to such and such. And so then, you know, three or four other families decide, okay, well, you know what, we'll tag along as well. Before you know it, you've got you know different groups and there may be three four different families going to a particular area you know one person is kind of the the quote unquote you know organizer comptroller whatever you want to call them and everybody else for let's just say bill i'm not exaggerating when i say this i think everybody else is sort of tagging along well the The thing I guess you'd have to ask in that is, you know, who's in charge? What kind of research has been done? I'm not tagging along without finding out exactly where are we going, what's going to be the setup, all of these different things. And I think that's wise for any of you listening where I get this all the time. I had two actually, believe it or not, not this week, but week before 4th of July, Independence Day. I had two different people from Drive Radio where they were buying campers and pickup trucks and Number one, asking me, you know, do I have everything all hooked up correctly? Do I have the right truck? Blah, blah, blah. So anyways, go through all that process. And I'm thinking, OK, these are folks that are just getting into that world, which is great, Bill. I'm not against that at all. In fact, more power to you. It's a fun thing to do. Go for it. Do it. I've been there, done that, and I've moved on. But, hey, it's, you know, everybody teach their own. If they want to go do it, that's great. But this is, you know, to those people, especially, Bill, where you've never really done this, A lot of what you and I are talking about right now, especially when you're now hauling truck, camper gear and so on, you really need to be investigating, OK, what am I doing to get there? What am I crossing, by the way, to get there? Are there big, you know, streams, ravines, things like that, where I'm crossing to get to where I'm going, that if there were some big flash flood there, and that's now gone, how am I getting out? You may find yourself in a very abandoned situation to where a truck and rig, you know, the camper and truck are not leaving that until said road is repaired. These are things, Bill, that I don't think most think about.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. They're just complacent. And again, they're trusting the system. They're trusting the safety of their truck, their rig. They're trusting the system of the the maintenance of the roads and, oh, if something happens, I'll be notified with my phone. I get these little weather alerts in town, you know, kind of going back to John's. I'm super frustrated with Verizon because at my house, which used to have a great signal, I am now roaming. I don't know what the heck changed. I didn't move. I don't think the tower moved, but, you know, I'm like, I'm roaming at my house. This is ridiculous. So, but anyway, you know, you're trusting in those things. And it's like, you know, there was a, I think I've said this before on the radio, but there was an old old journeyman friend, electrician that I had. And he says, hey, be great at plan A, but be better at plan B. And that confuses people when they hear that. And I think I may have said this to you before, because people are like, well, shouldn't you just plan for everything to go right to begin with? And it's like, well, yeah, but how often does that really happen? Murphy always shows up. You cannot control everything. And so really what that means is be a problem solver, right? Be a problem solver. So, you know, you're doing something, you're going somewhere, and it's like everything's going to plan, but then all of a sudden, you get a hitch in the giddy up and you're like, oh my gosh, what am I going to do? Well, okay. Well, you know, you can't think everything through, but at least I can adjust and move, you know? And when we talk about third party protection, we get into that debate because, you know, you're the guy with, you know, the maps and the multiple routes and looking at the hospitals and, hey, everybody, here's my trauma kit and who's caring and who's not. You don't want to be that guy because all your friends are going to be like, all right, this guy's wacko, right? And it doesn't mean you stop doing it. It just means you keep it to yourself. You're still doing it. You're keeping it to yourself. So we're going camping with a bunch of people and maybe, quote, somebody else is in charge. Okay, cool, be in charge. But guess what I'm doing in my mind? Okay, if this goes bad, this goes bad. And then when things go bad, I'm now going to take charge. And those that want to join me, great. Those that don't, I'm sorry. I ain't got time for you. But I'm going to take charge. I'm going to protect my family, right, and protect myself. You guys want to join me. But I'm not going to. just hand over everything to a quote organizer or a quote leader, I may go along with them. They will make bad choices. And I'll just note that and be like, okay, yep. You're going to camp there? Hey, I think I'm going to go over here. That's right. Or whatever it may be. So you don't have to be that guy, but you can be that guy.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've got a couple of answers really quick on the well end of it, which, by the way, somebody was very correct in this, that a lot of these flood-stricken areas, most of those wells will probably have to be redone once the floodwaters and everything are gone. At least have to be redone. fully tested somebody else said that as a realtor the only time you really need to worry about shocking your well is if it tests positive for fecal matter then you'd have to think about doing something to shock the well but otherwise take test strips do your normal testing like you normally would do and by the way the test strip idea great thing to have on hand probably in some of your preparedness stuff either which by the way you guys you can have either the test strips which anybody has a hot tub or a pool you know all about those on top of that which i've gone this direction because it's so much easier They are now handy little. They're $35, $40. They're digital. You put a little bit of water in a cup. You put the sensor in the cup, and it tells you exactly everything going on with the water, and you're avoiding the test strips by doing that, and it's all digital readout. It's really slick.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow, where do you pick those up?
SPEAKER 05 :
Amazon. I need to get some of those. Amazon.
SPEAKER 13 :
You'll have to send me a link to that, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, I'll do that. I mean, they're a piece of cake, and I finally just with having to do checks and different things, I finally said, you know what, I'm done with the test trips. I'm going to go. And that, to me, Bill, probably came out of the car world, repair world for me, because for the longest time we were using different devices to check coolant and different things on the vehicle. And finally that went the electronic stage. And I'm like, oh, man, this is so much easier that once I learned you could do that on just water in general, it's like, yeah, why am I monkeying around with these test strips when I can use this? Now, for just a bug-out bag or something along those lines, throwing a nice – and this is the key on test strips, by the way, for all of you listening – It's it's how should I say this? It's imperative that if you buy a bottle of test strips, they do expire. You have to make sure that they stay completely sealed. In other words, if you're going to throw these in a bug out bag, do not open them first. Don't pull a few out and test have one set. Now, my advice would be, by the way. They sell test strips. If you're going to put them in your bug-out bag, you can typically buy, and this is going to sound really funky, but you can buy individually wrapped test strips. They typically come in a foil-type pack. If you go look on Amazon or go to a pool store, they'll have them. I would buy a 12-pack or so of just the foil test strips where they're each one individual. That way you know they're staying dry. They'll pretty much... I don't want to say they'll last forever, Bill, but they'll last a really long time, keep them in a cool, dry place. Those individual strips are just not going to get contaminated any other way, even inside of the plastic bottle. If I were going to throw some in a bug-out bag, that's what I would use.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that's really a great idea. You know, and also, too, it kind of goes back to that whole practice, practice, practice thing. So, you know, you can keep, you know, fresh test strips in there by actually tearing into them and going, let's just see where the water's at today. Okay, cool. You know what? I'm getting low. Let's reorder. You know, it's that recycling, that pantry kind of a deal. Correct, correct. You can still do it because then you're also practicing using the test strips because, you know, if you're anything like me, it's like, my gosh, I haven't done this for a few months. Where's the instructions? I've forgotten how to do it all again, and I've got to re-familiarize myself, which you can't keep up on everything, but you get the idea. It's like, hey, let's just see where the water's at this month. Maybe, John, at the house, if you're on a well, it might not be a bad idea. You're changing your well filter, your furnace filter, excuse me. You're changing your whole house water. I do this on the monthly. Hey, maybe I just Just run a little test real quick every month. Just kind of build that routine. You know, on the first of the month, I just knock these things out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Doesn't take very long. Great idea. Great idea. And again, thank you, by the way, all of you that are texting that back in. I appreciate that. It's really, you know, water is a big deal. And somebody asked, does my tester test for bacteria? The particular tester I have... Does not. And I would have to look to see if you can add that as another option. I'm assuming you probably could. What I'm testing, I'm not drinking. So I'm not too worried about, you know, I mean, I don't want bacteria in what you're even in the hot tub with and so on, Bill. But yeah, I'm not drinking it. So it's not quite as big of a concern for me as the pH level and the alkalinity and the chlorine level and so on. I'm more worried about that than I actually am the fecal matter, although I'm assuming you can pretty much buy a tester for anything. I guess it's a matter of how fancy do you want to get, Bill.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and I imagine if there's any ounce of – and I could be wrong. Listen, I'm an electrician. I'm a self-defense instructor. I'm not a plumber. I'm not a water expert, so please don't take it as that. But I would think that if there's chlorine present – There's probably not much bacteria.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's – yeah, you know what? I hadn't thought about that. I don't know. You're probably – and I'm not either. I'm not an expert when it comes to that. Maybe I'll get a water person on here in the future, even Paul the Water Guy, who's a part of what we do here on KLZ. I could probably get him on at some point and talk a little bit about that. But, by the way, the digital tester that I own – and I'll send this to you, Bill – they're $20 on Amazon. So I'll send you a link, and I'll send this off, and Producer Ann can actually get this up on our website later. for all of you listening as well so that's an easy one i mean honestly test strips over time will you'll spend more than 20 bucks let's just say it that way yeah that's that's that's money well spent in my opinion right there so i'll have her add that on to our list and uh i can't type and talk at the same time so i'll do this really quick as i'm trying to talk and type at the same time all right so one of the things i was going to mention too and this is guys this is just sort of I want to say common knowledge. I talk about it on Drive Radio a lot. I'm going to talk about it. I probably should even do it here more on not only this program but the daily program, Rush to Reason, and that is this. Flash floods can happen anytime, anyplace. And as a car guy, I will tell you, and I know I've said it a lot. I'm probably going to sound like a broken record, but here's the deal. Cars float. And a lot of people don't think they will. They think, oh, it's heavy enough. I can just drive right through that. It's not a problem. No, with a lot of the cars now today, probably 90% of the cars that are rolling out now, cars, all cars, by the way, I don't think there's hardly any frame, you know, body-on-frame cars. There's a few trucks. There's a few SUVs. But even most SUVs are made out of a unibody design. All of the unibody designs are more floatable, quote-unquote, than a body-on-frame is. And the reason for that is because, really, Bill, it's an airtight cabin, if you would. All of the suspension and everything is hooked underneath, not through, but underneath onto the tub, onto the body tub itself, if you would, onto the unibody. And anymore, the door seals and everything else are so good that, yeah, they'll let water in. But it takes a little bit of time, especially on newer vehicles where those seals and everything are very good. Reality is it doesn't take a lot of water to float a car. So my point is never drive across something you don't know how deep it is.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, or cross it on foot, you know. That's right. That's right. You know, don't think that, oh, there's, you know, that's only a few inches of water because it definitely can be deceiving. Not only that, but, you know, if it's muddy or silty underneath there, you get in there, you... You might be stuck in the mud.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then you're stuck until the water builds, and now you're floating. That's right. And if it's moving, all of what I just said even becomes that much worse because now the water itself is moving. Maybe it's a situation where there's a river close by. It's running across the road, or maybe it's even running across the bridge itself, but you're going to go ahead and drive across. Yeah, be very careful with that because it doesn't take a lot of water to lift the car up and move it to the side, and pretty soon you're back in the river with the car in a place, Bill, you don't want to be.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and if you're, you know, let's just say you're on a street. I mean, I've seen times going through Denver here that the flat is flooded. That's right. You know, and that right over there by Alameda, you know how it dips down? That's right. I can't tell you. I've gone numerous times through that, and it's been... you know, a pretty good little chunk of water there. And it's like, okay, one car floats, now the next car floats, and now all of a sudden you've got a pileup, and the whole thing's blocked of cars that have, you know, floated and drifted because of the The current or whatnot. So, yeah, I mean, it doesn't even have to happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
No camping or in the wilderness. No. So, yeah. So for some of you that are listening, a lot of this can apply to, you know, your own area. Now, one one thing I wanted to add to Bill was talking earlier about, you know, where do you park? And especially this time of the year where we can have really quick rainstorms that come through. Pay attention, by the way. most parking lots, if not all, will tell you when there's a low-lying area. In fact, some places will actually use those areas of the parking lot for drainage. It's done on purpose, and there'll be signs all around that say, in heavy rain, this area will flood. The last thing you want to do, Bill, is park in an area, go inside the store, come back out an hour later, get your car, and after all the rain has gone by, because you probably stayed in the store while it was raining, which, by the way, is not a bad idea, but now all of a sudden the water's up to the you know, center line of your door, and you're wondering, you know, not only how am I going to get to the car, but how am I going to get out of that once I'm there? So make sure you're paying close attention to those signs, because believe it or not, in this town, they are all over.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you got to watch. Here's the thing, right? As I'm thinking about this, I'm like, gosh, John, I've never seen those signs. But it's going to come on the cusp of what I'm going to say. We have to get better at the art of observation. That's right. And we really do. I mean, it's situational awareness, however you want to term it. I don't really care. But you need to be aware of your surroundings. You need to look at the political, the people. You need to look at the geography of whatever you're doing. And we kind of go back full circle to what we started with when we started talking about this today. It's like you have to take control. This needs to be your lifestyle. So it's lifestyle design. And this is how you design your lifestyle is to start paying attention to My surroundings, what's the possible risks? What's the possible dangers? You know what? Nine times out of ten, nothing's going to happen to you. But it's that one time, John, and you know what? Every time it's happened to me, not that I've been in a flood or anything like that, but most of the time when something bad has gone on, I said to myself, I knew this was going to happen. And I ignored that initial kind of gut feeling. Right? And it's like, oh, I knew I should have done that. I knew I should have parked over there. It's easy to say that in hindsight, but I'm going to tell you. More times than not, I've had that initial check, and I ignored it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, that's right. And when you do that and realize it, then it's a gut check, like, geez, okay, well, I won't do that again, and usually that's what happens. But what I'm trying to get everybody to do here, and I know Bill is the same way, is to have those gut checks prior to something bad happening, i.e., all of what we've seen happening in Texas with the flooding. We've seen flooding in New Mexico. Folks, I'll tell you this, too. This I can predict, Bill. I think I can say this pretty accurately, knowing where we're at in the stage of our world and so on. That won't be the last flood we've just seen in Texas. There will be more of them. It's the way things work, especially us here in the Rocky Mountains where we have such large canyons and surface areas where water runs into V's and so on. It's going to happen again, Bill. It's just a matter of time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, yeah, and I'm going to slow pitch this one to you, and you can have fun with this one, John. It's all because of cloud seeding.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, could be. You never know. That one, I've done some more research on that. You know what? We can talk about that in a future show. So I'm not going to argue on that one at all, Bill. So, hey, I'll let you go, Bill.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have a great rest of your week.
SPEAKER 05 :
We'll talk again Friday. All right. All right, man. Have a good one. And we will be right back again. Ready-radio.com is our website. KLZ 560.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and please stick with me for a few minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education, but no manipulation. That's right, no manipulation, no solicitations. We're not asking you for money. We just want to give you some information that will help you verify and identify the plan of God for your life. And if we can do that, then you have the freedom and the privacy to orient and adjust to the plan, as always. But my job is to be accurate and give it to you straight so that you can understand what your choices are, what your options are. We call the show the FLOT line, F-L-O-T, because that's an acronym for the Forward Line of Troops. We're teaching that military analogy there, using that to say there are 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the Word of God that if you learn them and you use them, they will act like a forward line of troops in your life. By that I mean they will stop the outside sources of adversity from ever becoming the inside source of stress. No one can stop adversity, it's inevitable, but stress is totally optional because adversity is what the circumstances do to you and stress, now that is what you do to yourself. So the Christian life is a life with no stress, no worry, no fear, no anxiety, no bitterness, no animosity. It's a wonderful way to live. And that's why you need to build a Flatline in your soul. The Flatline radio show is increasing as we speak. We've now upped our show to 56 cities across America. what a wonderful opportunity god has allowed me to have and i'm so thankful for it and i always ask for your prayer support as we continue to move across this country with the information we have to give the greatest information i can give you is to remind you of biblical truths and introduce you to a different way of studying different way of learning the word of god without any sort of manipulation just to verify god's plan for you it starts with the best news i could tell you and that is jesus christ the anointed son of god has redeemed you and me out of the slave market of sin. He paid our debt for sin to God, and we have been freed now. We are reconciled to God, free of the penalty of death and free from the power of sin in our life. If you have never received Christ as your Savior, it is the single most significant decision you'll ever make. It totally changed my life, not in an instant. I mean, when I received Christ, I didn't all of a sudden become a new person. However, the Bible does say if any man's in Christ, he's a new creation. Old things are passed away, and behold, all things become new. What became new was my inside, my dead human spirit that was identified with Adam's original sin was born again, spiritually made alive, so that I could have a relationship with God the Father by means of God the Holy Spirit. living and indwelling in me. And when you receive Christ as your Savior, you in effect will accept the same thing. The offering he made on your behalf, it's free, free gift of God, compliments of God's grace, because here's the big news, God actually loves you and loves me. So the Bible says, not by works of righteousness which we've done, but according to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord. So that being justified by his grace, there it is, not by works, not by purchasing, justified by his grace we should be made heirs according to the hope or the confidence of eternal life. So that's the best news I could ever tell you. Now, the bad news. I promised you last time we spoke, or last time you listened, that we would talk about the four-generation curse. It's a significant truth taught in the Bible, and I think it's worth looking at, mentioning, in light of the fact of what's going on in this country today. When one looks at the chaos, I call it the chaos climate in this election year, that's 2020, we see multiple young people calling to overthrow the police and overthrow the system of government. Now, I don't believe that these young people are in the majority. There are millions and millions of great kids who are law-abiding, respectful to authority. And the news really never shows these types unless it's to stage some sort of political argument and try to make them seem out of touch with reality. However, if the rebellious trends continue, fueled by the social media influencers that are at work every day, then it won't be long before bad things start to really happen in this country. And the worst thing that could ever happen to us is God bringing judgment on this nation. Why? Because of our departure from the divine institutions and because we turned our back on the one who gave us our great nation and preserved it through two world wars and numerous internal conflicts. From what I can tell, from what my pastor taught me in the Bible, it only takes about four generations of rebellion to God's laws before the nation undergoes disruption and divine discipline. now our country the united states of america has been a client nation you've heard me talk about a client nation that's a nation that represents god to the world we have been a client nation for many years a client nation for many years now we've been the beacon of hope and we we've projected the gospel and evangelism throughout the whole world we have been faithfully as a nation guarding god's word we've taught it to our youth We've been a haven for and a guardian of the Jewish race. We've stood on our nationalistic policy and avoided being lured into international control. We have honored marriage, and we've supported the family as an institution, and we have given freedom to all of our citizens, and very often at a great cost. But, but, but, we have focused our attention lately on the gifts of prosperity, and we seem to have forgotten the giver. In eternity past, as recorded in the scripture, God gave his servant Moses explicit instructions regarding worship. And here's what's recorded. And before I read this to you, let me make something clear. My pastor taught this to me many years ago. And a lot of what I'm going to share with you today is not original. These are his notes as he taught them to me. And I recall them and reuse them with his permission. But this is the thing he taught me about the four-generation curse. In Exodus 20, verses 4 and 5, you shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven, above, or on earth beneath, or in the waters below. You will not bow down to them or be cause to serve them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children of the sins of their fathers to the third and the fourth generation of those who despise me. Now this was a warning to the Jews as they came out of slavery in Egypt, as they headed for the promised land, as they set up a new system of government and a new nation. This is a law that God decreed. Again, do not make for yourself any idols. in the form of anything in heaven above or on earth below. You will not bow down to them, and you will not be caused to serve them, because I am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sins of their fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who despise me. Now, jealousy. God is not jealous. Jealousy is a sin. The Bible says that. So this is an anthropomorphism giving a God a human characteristic to help us understand that God requires fidelity in the life of those who love him. And this passage that is here was a warning to the Jews against idolatry practiced by the vigorous and very powerful Canaanite giants who occupied that land they were about to go into. And part of the power of those Canaanite people was the power that came from demonism related to idolatry. That's right, demonism. Demons are fallen angels, and they are real, and they are still in operation today, I can assure you. So the Ten Commandments that God gave to Moses were in effect a constitution for Israel. It was designed to help these former slaves from Egypt establish the concept of freedom in the new nation they would now possess. And these mandates were designed for the protection of freedom, the continuation of freedom. That's the Ten Commandments, the Freedom Code. And the curse of the four generation, and here again, don't let me lose you. I am a jealous God punishing the children of the sins of their fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who despise me. What I want to attempt to show you is that we are down the road in that four generation curse. Maybe even to the fourth generation. I'm not sure. But we are looking at discipline from the hand of God if we continue to go down the road we're going down. You wonder why certain things are like they are and nothing can stop them. Nothing changes. People can get away with crime. Politicians get away with crime and no one convicts them. Politicians do terrible things and no one seems to care. Crimes rampant on our street and no one seems to stop it. What's going on? Why is this? Is God letting some of these things happen to get our attention? You know, in Hosea, the Bible says, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Since you rejected knowledge, I'll reject you and you'll no longer be a priest for me. All God requires is for us to listen, learn, and understand his plan. And then from that course, you have to decide whether or not you're going to live it. Listen, learn, and understand, and live the plan. There's a term we used to use called LAG, L-A-G, learn it, apply, and glorify God. And that's all God is asking of you or any of us. He's blessed our nation. He's made us free. He's given us prosperity. We're the greatest nation in the world. And to think that we couldn't lose it is naive. Certainly we can lose it. And there are people in this nation today that want to fundamentally remake this whole nation and make us slaves again, slaves to those that hate this way of life, slaves to those who hate Christianity, because I personally believe that much of what you're seeing today is a disguised attack on the Christian way of life. So, those Ten Commandments were the Constitution. And that curse, that four-generation curse, now let me make it clear, it does not apply to anyone who believes in the Lord Jesus Christ or to any establishment-oriented unbeliever. If you're an unbeliever or anyone's an unbeliever, but they do believe in the establishment principles of freedom, marriage, family, and nationalism, then they're going to be protected. But hating God to those who what despise me, he said. Hating God or despising God refers to rejecting Jesus Christ as Savior. So this four-generation curse never, never would apply to the believer. Unless he spends his life out of fellowship with God, as some people say in reversionism or as I say in the cosmic system, you know, the bottom line is negative volition. God gave you volition as part of your soul. Mentality is part of your soul. Self-consciousness is part of your soul. You have a conscience and you have volition. God gave you volition. And negative volition is you saying no, you saying no, no to God, no to his word, no to Jesus Christ. Negative volition is the basis of you or anyone becoming culpable to God. But becoming a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ breaks the four-generation curse principle. Exodus 20, verse 6 adds comfort to this curse. Here's what it says. But I will show mercy to thousands who love me and guard my mandates. So there is your security. God promises he will show mercy to those that love him and guard his mandates. But he said he would visit the children for the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who despise me. This does not mean that a child is going to be disciplined for what his father did. I'll explain it. But that's not what that means. Here's another statement about the curse in Exodus 34. Then the Lord passed in front of Moses and said, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in mercy, abounding in truth, guarding his mercy for thousands and forgiving iniquity, transgressions, and sins, yet he will by no means leave the guilty unpunished. He punishes the iniquity of the fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generation. This curse is never given where people respond to grace. each generation is a separate generation and each generation is responsible for its own equity which is then passed on through the culture from one generation to the next generation and when we're talking about the four generation curse we're talking about the father passes on through the culture his sin and the child picks it up believes it passes it on to his children and they pass it on to the next children It's a way of life. It's a culture of negative volition. It's rejection of the word of God. Each generation is responsible for its own iniquity. And it's passed on through the culture from one generation to the next. You've heard me say what used to be evil in this country is now good. And what used to be good is now evil. That's the way the culture is changing. Thanks to the internet, thanks to social media, people are accepting perverted lifestyle as if it's wonderful and fine. And people are looking down their noses at Christians as if they're perverted and weird. And some of them are kind of weird, I promise you that, because they're self-righteous legalists, just like the ones who put our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross, the religious self-righteous crowd. But let me give you some characteristics of that four-generation curse so you can see it. Number one, there's a great difference between the first generation and the fourth generation because each generation specifically gets worse and worse and worse. How does that happen? Well, the culture changes. Culture changes. What used to be good is now evil. What used to be evil is now good. And then the motivation of the people changes. People, you know, what do you think is the greatest motivation in your life? The Bible says, if you love me, you'll obey me, and my mandates are not hard. Personal love for God is what motivates us to be the kind of people he asks us to be. And when our motivation changes and we begin to worship the gift rather than the giver, then our values have changed. So the culture changes, the motivation of the people changes, values change. This is what it looks like in the four-generation curse as it begins to build up from generation to generation to generation. Juvenile crime increases in every generation. And in the fourth generation occurs when it finally gets there. And we may be there. You'll see why here. Life is cheap in the fourth generation. Idolatry occurs in the third and fourth generation, but murder is known to be rampant. Life is cheap in this world today. Life is cheap in this country today. You've seen the same videos I've seen of people walking up and shooting innocent bystanders. You've seen the same videos I have of law control officers who make mistakes and shoot innocent men and women. Life is never cheap. Jesus Christ died for everyone, man, woman, child, baby, boy. The Lord Jesus Christ paid a great price for us. It's not cheap. And yet in this nation, the murder rampant in my city, and mine's just a small city, is unbelievable. It's not a day that I don't pick up the newspaper and read in fine print how many got murdered last night. And if you look at cities like Chicago and St. Louis and Atlanta and Houston and Dallas, you wouldn't believe it. Life has become so cheap and people kill each other as if there's nothing to it. The generation that kicks this all off is taught in the Bible, and it's the generation that begins to be anti-authority, the generation that gets negative to God. And you may wonder, well, what does the Bible consider to be a generation? Roughly 30 years, we'd say. So we're born under the authority of our parents because until we learn to submit to authority, then we suffer in life under the laws of volitional responsibility. In other words, you are responsible for every decision you make. The Bible teaches that. You are responsible for every decision you make. The reason you have parents is to teach you respect for authority. And when parents don't teach respect for authority, then they raise a child that has No sense of responsibility. Under the law of volitional responsibility, you must pay for your own sins. All seeming advantages in life are lost if you reject authority. The authority, you might not like the person, you might not care for the person, but the person represents authority. In our home, it's the police officer. In our nation, it's the president and the judicial system, the executive and judicial system of law. And then it may be outside, it may be the military, but it's authority. It keeps us free. It keeps us safe. That's very important you understand that. So rejection of authority is the problem because Until we learn to submit to authority, we suffer in life. And when you can see young people stand in front of a police officer and curse him and yell at him and throw things at him and people won't answer the questions the police officer asks, you can see young people rejecting authority. Not all, but the news media certainly makes it available to make it look like it's all, and it's not. So rejection of authority is the most prominent cause for suffering in life. Most of the suffering you'll go through is because you rejected the authority of someone in control. Someone's got to be in control. And people don't want that. People want to be free to make their own decisions. And you are basically, to a certain degree, free to make your own decisions. When the sign says the speed limit is 70, the speed limit is 70, not 90. If you get a ticket, it's because you disobeyed the authority of that sign. Rejection of authority is the most prominent cause for suffering in life. Divine institution number one, freedom, free will, is yours. And if you choose to accept it or you choose to reject authority, you choose it at a very early stage in life. There's nothing worse than seeing a child who has no respect for the authority of their parents and gets away with anything. Authority is necessary. for the very function in life because you'll never enjoy your freedom and you'll never have capacity for freedom until you understand and accept authority. So the first generation of this four generation curse will reject authority beginning in the home. That's verified in Proverbs 30 verse 11 where it mentions the four generation curse in the next few verses. a generation who curse their father and who do not bless their mother. We have that in America today. We have that very thing going on here in this country today. The greatest suffering in life comes to someone who rejects parental authority because understanding the issue of authority is the key to being stable in life. It's the key to stability in the nation. It's the key to stability in the home. And where there's authority, it must be enforced. There must be discipline. There's no way around it. The Bible says fathers don't provoke your children to wrath, but bring them up in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord. So the second generation, the first generation is indicative of rejection of authority. The second generation, Proverbs 30, verse 12, there's a generation that's pure in its own eyes, yet not washed from its own filthiness. This is self-righteous arrogance. They look in the mirror and they like what they see. Remember that the person who's arrogant has an unrealistic self-image. If he has an unrealistic self-image, he has unrealistic expectations. So this is the self-righteous, arrogant generation. And it's found in Christian homes sometimes where there's tremendous legalism and blind arrogance. A person can really become, you talk about getting into judging and maligning and criticizing. Religious people do it all the time. And then the third generation, there is a generation, oh, how lofty, Proverbs 3.13, oh, how lofty are their eyes. And their eyelids are lifted up. That's the third generation who has locked in, now locked in arrogance, locked in negative volition. You're not going to reach them. You're not going to get to them. They're not going to go to a Billy Graham crusade. They're not going to go listen to a Rick Hughes radio show. They don't care. They're locked in. They look into their own image and they believe that they're right. They believe in their own arrogance that they are correct and you are wrong. I'm wrong. The evangelist is wrong. The Bible is wrong. The churches are wrong. That's what they believe. And they believe they're right. That's the third generation that has locked in arrogance, a generation whose eyes are so arrogant that their eyelids are raised in arrogance. Kind of like the person who gives you that look with their eyes and looks up like, oh, you stupid fool. You've seen it happen, maybe even from your kids. And then in Proverbs 3.14, here's the last generation. There's a generation whose teeth are like swords and whose jaws are like knives. This generation is the generation that has lust for power. This generation will kill you to keep their self in power. They will kill you to maintain the power. Kill anyone that gets in their way to maintain the power. Say anything they got to say to maintain the power. And make no mistake about it, politics is all about power. And the public lie says if you tell it often enough, loud enough, and long enough, somebody's going to believe it. A generation whose teeth are like swords, whose jaws are set like knives. They will cut you to pieces with their words. Christian leadership today, even Christian leadership, church ministers advocating rebellion against the government, advocating civil disobedience and violence. These are the kind of signs I'm talking about that says we are in the fourth generation. Our first generation was during World War I, during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson. The second generation was during the Depression, the third generation was the Vietnam generation, and now we're in the fourth generation, especially with young people. It's a very serious problem, since the fourth generation can cause destruction of the nation under the five cycles of discipline. Now, you're not in the four-generation curse unless you're culpable, unless you're responsible. And culpability is based on your volition, the volition of each individual in any generation of human history. You are only responsible for your personal sins, not the sins of your parents. So the four-generation curse never exists except where the children of the four-generation curse commit the same sins that their parents did in the third generation. In other words, one multiplies two, two goes to three, three goes to four. Listen to Deuteronomy 24, 16. Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor shall children be put to death for their fathers. Everyone will be put to death for his own sin, his own sin. And that's what God's holding us responsible for. our own sin. In every generation there's always a certain number of young people whose arrogance and rejection of authority results in all sorts of immoral behavior. Rape, drug addiction, burglary, arson, violence. Crime is one of the greatest dangers to freedom. No respect for authority. And if crime is not controlled by the judicial system and the rule of law, then your freedom is gone. Four-generation curse. I don't have time to go much further with it, but that's it. We're probably in the fourth generation. I don't know how much longer this country can continue to exist where there's no respect for authority. I don't know how much longer this country can continue to exist when we're split and fractured and we're thinking in different ways as it's going on today in politics. No one's willing to come together. Everyone thinks they have a better plan. Only the word of God has the right plan, the right way, the right way to do it. If my people that are called by my name will humble themselves, turn from their wicked ways, seek my face and pray, then I'll hear from heaven, then I'll heal their land. That's the key to it. Humility, rejecting, arrogance, turning to the word of God and asking for mercy. I ask you to please pray with me for this great nation before we lose everything that our forefathers fought and died for. We're in serious trouble. We're looking at the fifth cycle of discipline and it will not be nice. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flood Lines.
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All right, we are back. We were here earlier for Fix-It Radio. Of course, Drive Radio now. Thanks to all of you that listen to both programs. Those of you listening to just Drive Radio, we appreciate that as well. And I should give a little plug. Yes, Fix-It Radio is on right before Drive Radio. We talk about things around the house today. We talked about mowers and maintenance and blades and sharpening and all sorts of things along those lines. And some of that carries over into the... into the drive radio aspect of things as well. But if you just listen to drive radio, thank you. We appreciate that also. And if you're listening to a replay of this program on Sunday afternoon, thank you for that as well. We appreciate that. Steve Horvath with me today, Geno's Auto Service. So thank you, Steve. You're welcome. Thank you. Appreciate you joining me. Thank you. And Larry Unger, of course, answering phones today. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. Questions, we've got lines open right now. Feel free to call in, 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. Larry will get you all queued up. We'll get you dialed in. Any questions you've got, let us know. Question of the day today. I was thinking of this as I was driving earlier this week because that's typically what I do. I'll be driving along and I'll question of the day will pop into my mind, add it to my notes, and here we are. So today's question of the day. What type of car, so give me make and model. What type of car you instantly look at it and think, yeah, they'll be a bad driver. So in other words, what is the type of car in your mind, make and model, that have the worst drivers? And some of you will have more than one. I have several, by the way. And I don't know why this is. I don't know whether certain people just gravitate towards certain types of cars. And I'm just going to say it straight up, and I don't think these are bad cars. But there's a lot of bad drivers that buy these cars. And if I see a Tesla emblem, I am typically nervous about that person because they are, in my opinion, some of the worst drivers on the planet.
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I have a story about that. For years, I thought the Priuses didn't have power. Oh, they do. But the first people that bought them never drove them. No, they didn't. They didn't drive them.
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No, they didn't.
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And I thought they were just underpowered.
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No, no, no.
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I just didn't drive them. And you'd be behind them, and they were going so slow. Right. I would say they were the worst drivers, but they were definitely the slowest drivers, the first ones. Now the Priuses, everybody else is driving them pretty good.
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Yeah, there's been enough adaptation, I guess you could say, Steve, to that particular car where there's a lot of people that own that car that weren't even some of the original adopters of that car that now own it. Yeah, I agree with you. It's not what it used to be. Get out and drive it. That's right. Barbara, you're up next. What's going on, Barbara?
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Hey, I was just wondering what you guys thought about those portable air compressors they advertise on TV, if they're worth the money and if they actually work.
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Depends on, I don't watch TV anymore, Barbara, so I can't really say to that particular brand. Do they have a brand name on them by chance?
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Well, there's different ones that they advertise. I mean, it's not just one brand. It's anything from like a, they're all battery operated.
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Okay.
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One is, you read, it's a chargeable, they're all rechargeable batteries. One is a separate battery that you attach to it, like on a drill. And then the other one is you just charge this small device by itself.
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Got it.
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And they claim that they will inflate a boat that's on a trailer.
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Oh, and so really quick, yes, I like the portable compressors with this caveat. I like the ones that go with some of the other tools you might already have around your house or your shop. In other words, if it's Milwaukee or DeWalt or Ryobi or whatever, if you've got another lineup of tools you're using that already have batteries, I would buy their compressor, use your other batteries to drive it. And, yes, Barbara, they are the best thing since sliced bread, not exaggerating.
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Oh, okay. I prefer cobalt tools because on the job site, they're never stolen.
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Really? You know what? I never heard that. That's a good one.
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All my stuff is cobalt. All the DeWalt and Milwaukee's, they all walk.
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No, I could see that. Cobalt has one that's about $75.
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Okay, so there's your answer, Barbara.
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So Cobalt has one of those. I've got a Milwaukee brand, but I've used other brands of them. And, you know, Makita's got a brand. Cobalt has one. I mean, because of competition, as you know, Barbara, they've all got something very similar. And the thing I also like about them that's so neat, and I'm not sure the Cobalt one does this, but mine does, And I think typically they're made this way. You can pre-set. So let's say that your tires on your vehicle require 32 PSI. You can actually set the compressor to 32 pounds. Just go hook it up to each tire, hit go, and it does the rest.
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Oh, well, then I wonder if I should get rid of my pancake compressor that... I have it on a rolling cart, but I mean.
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If you're using it to do tires and stuff, you don't need it. I'm not joking, Barbara. I've got a big compressor out in my house shop, and I have a little pancake compressor as well that he's kind of used to fill up tires and do different things with and so on. Since I bought the portable Milwaukee, I haven't broken out either one. I haven't put an air chuck on my regular compressor hose to fill a tire up since then.
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Ah, okay. Well, that gives me another idea.
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So why is the cobalt snot stolen? Is it just nobody wants them, or is it?
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Yeah, it's the brand.
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It's the brand. It's not a well-thought-of brand, I guess.
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Right. It's not a well-known brand. It's like if you have hand tools, if you have Snap-on, you've got to guard those with your life.
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No, you're right. You're right. No, that's a good tool, though. That's why I'm surprised.
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I really like the Cobalt. I mean, I've got the string trimmer. I've got everything, so I might as well go get the compressor.
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Well, then, yeah, if you've already got all that stuff, by all means, just buy their compressor. It fits with the batteries and things that you already have, and I'm guessing they're all very similar in how they operate, Barbara. In other words, presetting the PSI, and literally you can put it on the valve stem, hit go, leave it. It'll shut off automatically when it's at the right PSI, and you just go to the next tire, and that's all you have to do.
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Nice. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
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They work fabulous, Barbara. Best thing ever.
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All right. Thanks.
SPEAKER 17 :
Thanks, Barbara. Appreciate it very much. Yeah, for those of you listening, we've talked about that particular topic in the past, and I've had so much positive feedback from all of you that have gone out and bought whatever brand. Again, here's my suggestion. Whatever you've got the most batteries of, and some of you might have even more than, like all of us, you may have DeWalt, you may have Milwaukee, you may have Makita, you may have whatever, Sears, et cetera, Snap-on, on down the line you go. This is my opinion. Whatever you have the most batteries for, buy that compressor. Because you'll be using that tool, and this is not an exaggeration, you'll be using that compressor almost as much as you probably use your cordless drill or driver. And here's the other thing that I like about it. You will find yourself... keeping your air pressures on your tires more consistent than you ever have before because it's so much easier to do than you ever had before. Because, again, all you do is if your tires have 35 PSI, that's what's needed to make sure everything works properly on the car. You go set the compressor to 35 PSI. You put it on each valve stem. You hit go. It adjusts it. You go to the next one. And if you do that on a quarterly basis, for example, you're changing oil in your own car. and you want to make sure all your tire pressure is correct. Just look to see what the door sticker says. Go set the compressor to that. Start running around each tire. Pretty soon, they're all aired up, and it didn't take any longer to do that than it did changing the oil because it's all autonomous for the most part other than you putting the hose on. It's all autonomous, and off you go, and you buy the right. This is where I don't know about the little handheld compressors. I have seen some of those advertised on Amazon. Social media and Amazon and so on, and it's an internal battery. You charge the compressor itself, and maybe that would be worth throwing in the trunk of the car or something like that, although I'm not that familiar. I've never used one of those, so I don't know how well they work compared to a regular, some of these ones I'm talking about, Milwaukee to Walt. And again, I use Milwaukee just because that's what I kind of got started on with batteries and so on back in the day, and that's just what I use.
SPEAKER 16 :
Once you're on the river or whatever, whatever tool you are, whatever, Milwaukee, whatever, you're stuck. You're kind of stuck.
SPEAKER 17 :
I've even got some older Makita stuff, which I like their brand as well. Back in the day, that was a good brand. It's a solid. And I've got three or four tools of Makita that, as time goes by, I think I finally have decided that, okay, I'm getting more and more Milwaukee stuff. I'm to the point where I'm going to start offloading some of the Makita stuff and going to one battery setup. And the one thing I do like about Milwaukee that I don't know that the rest of them have is – and maybe they do, and I just haven't looked closely enough. But with Milwaukee, you can buy one of their – and sometimes it will even come with a tool. They've got a dual charger where you can charge the 12-volt and the 18-volt, same charger, same time, where a lot of the others will have separate chargers for even each voltage of battery you're using. I love the Milwaukee setup because I can literally – Charge both types of batteries at the same time. Have them ready to go for whatever tool you're using, and off you go.
SPEAKER 16 :
So you should see your NAPA. The whole month of May, they did a big blitz on the Milwaukee. Oh, nice. And there was one deal where you could buy two good batteries, and you got the six-way charger. Oh, that's nice. Now you're really sad. Yeah. Actually, they had a big deal for our technicians.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, what's happening in a lot of the auto shops, for those of you that are listening, we're using less and less and less air in an auto shop. About the only thing you're using air in an auto shop for is, of course, collision centers still use it to paint cars and do some of that stuff and run some of the body tools and that with. In a mechanical shop, about the only thing you're using air for is, if a technician doesn't have the compressors we're talking about, you're filling tires with it, you're running a tire machine with it. And air chisels. So when you're trying to chisel something off and you need an air chisel, there's not much. Milwaukee has one. Yeah, they're getting better at the electric sides of things. And it's getting smaller and smaller for the longest time. Some of the electric things, the biggest issue there was just the sheer size. It's just so heavy with that battery.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 17 :
It took two years to pick it up. That's right. That's getting much, much better. And I'll tell you, the battery-powered stuff just continues to get better and better and better to the point where I'll give you an example. I, for the longest time, and I've got a regular big backpack blower that I use at my property. But, you know, for like the garage and different things, we're just trying to blow little things out. I, for years and years and years, had a little gas-powered two-stroke Red Max blower. Yeah. And last weekend, it kind of started to get where I need to go through the carburetor, and I'm like, I mean, I can, but it's like I've had this thing for probably, I'm not joking, probably 20 years. I've had it about 20 years, and that's not a joke. I've had it that long. And I'm like, you know, I've got all this Milwaukee stuff now. I'm going to go see what an actual handheld blower, you know, go to Home Depot, see what a handheld blower is, you know, that I could just replace this with and use the batteries instead. So I, last Saturday, literally, I went, or I think it was Sunday, went and bought the The dual battery handheld, not the backpack, but the handheld blower that Milwaukee makes. It's the double battery, not a single battery. And I needed the tool only because I got plenty of batteries and chargers, and I didn't need any of that. So I just bought the tool alone. It was like $150 or something. Oh, my word. Why I didn't do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
A long time ago is beyond me. So even they have the little M12 one. It's a smaller one. And, you know, just for a little deck or something, you want to just dust it off.
SPEAKER 17 :
This dual battery one I bought, it's a dual 18-volt. Oh, my word. It's got way more power than I even had with the gas-powered one before. You don't have the stink, the mess, the two-stroke oil, and, you know, mixing the gas and all that nonsense. It's like, okay, why did I hesitate and wait so long? to do that and the other nice thing about it for some of you listening you'll understand this depending upon your spousal situation uh you know some can start that two-stroke engine no problem run it it said others you know would struggle to get things running and knowing how to choke it and all that stuff because there can be a little finesse involved in some of that the electric one guess what they hit the trigger and go yeah Anybody can run it. A 10-year-old, a 5-year-old could run the electric one. I mean, that's the other nice thing about it is anybody can run one. So just a little bit of advice for things around the shop and house and so on. But, again, going back to the question of the day, give me your thoughts on what type of cars, makes and model, have the worst drivers. That's the question of the day. We'll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Hello, John. Hey, Mike. Yesterday, or was it Thursday, you were talking about why kids don't do hot rodding anymore.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, we were.
SPEAKER 08 :
My thought is they're more interesting in killing their ears with the sound systems. Hmm. I mean, if you look at it, the amount of money that we would put into our cars back in the day is equal to what they're putting into stereos.
SPEAKER 16 :
Can't argue that. I think the other thing, and this is more of the government has not allowed us to do the things we can do. We still have to pass emissions. We still have to do things. So the fun stuff we used to do, they won't let us do, adding cams and stuff. So that's another little thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, but you've just got to get in the right state to do that. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, very true.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, yeah, but I agree with you, Mike, on I think some of it is that factor. I think just in general, I don't think kids have the same, quote, unquote, pardon the pun, but the same drive to even do things with cars they once did. There's a lot of kids today, Mike, that aren't even getting their licenses. I mean, I guarantee you all of us, myself included, you know, Charlie's in there, Larry's. No shop classes, Charlie just said, is part of it as well, Mike. But even getting the driver's license, all of us, and you included, I guarantee you, you had your license the day you turned 16 or pretty close to, unless your birthday was on a weekend. We all got our driver's license. There are kids today, Mike, that aren't getting their driver's license until they're in their 20s.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and part of that is that Dad, since that's who taught us, isn't around to work on the cars.
SPEAKER 14 :
True, true.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so they're not tagging along. I got in trouble with my ex-wife a long time ago. She comes out. Have you seen Mike? Yeah, he's right here with me. and I was working on my brother's van, and he was under the van with me. But that was just my two cents. I heard it yesterday, and I was driving, so I figured I'd call it in real quick.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and again, I appreciate you doing that because it's something that I do think that we as a community, the car community, and I know it's happening. There's a lot of folks out there listening to me right now that are, A, dragging kids to car shows, trying to get their kids interested in those things, and I admire... and appreciate everybody that's trying to do that. I think it's really important if you've got younger kids to get them involved in things because, Mike, if we don't keep that going, our fun part of our industry, not the industry, it won't die because we are going to need transportation for eons. That's not going to change. But the fun side of the industry will die if we don't keep it going.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no, they're just going to focus in on the electric stuff that won't last long.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. So I do think it's important for us to keep driving that love for cars, that love for speed, if you would, into our young people.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I got two boys. One is car, and the other one is not. And I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Not to pry, but what's your feelings on why one is and why one isn't?
SPEAKER 08 :
The youngest, Mike, he was under the cars with me. And the other one just seemed to be the wimpy one of the family.
SPEAKER 17 :
Just didn't have the natural interest in it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah. There again, he was more interested in playing the video games. I mean, he didn't do the skateboards. My oldest did. Barely rode a pedal bike. My older one did. And now my older one's running around with the crotch rocket. You know, 37 years old at 6'3", he won't listen to his old man to get a normal bike.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. More power to him. I can't ride one of those, so have at it. All righty. Mike, I appreciate it. No, thank you. And I don't think, Mike, you're that far off. And, again, I do have a concern here because if we don't keep the enthusiast part of our industry going, it will die out because it will affect a lot of things value-wise and that even with a lot of the cars that some of us own if we don't keep that going. Mike, you're up next.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, good show this morning again. Thanks, Mike. Shout out to Steve Horvath. Steve, you helped me locate a NAPA certified technician down in Florida. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I remember that. Yeah, yeah. We spent some time going through that in the office. Got the car into them. They did a bang-up job. Oh, good. All the things you expect from Napa folks.
SPEAKER 17 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 09 :
They were straightforward. Here's what you got. Here's what you're going to need. This is what happened here. This is what happened there. They were thorough. They were professional. They were friendly and fun to chat with. And great guys, as I've come to expect once again. And I wanted to... thank you very much for your help in that. Oh, you're welcome. Give you a shout out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. Thank you. No, I appreciate it. I like looking for places like that to see, you know, cause that's good. You know, it's good to know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Yeah. No, they, gosh, they were, they were phenomenal. I just want, geez. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
So before I let you go, Mike, what type of car, when you see it, you know, it's going to be a bad driver.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, this is going to offend all of the certain group out there. Any Range Rover, Land Rover product, give me a break. You know what? I can't argue that. You know, their reliability history is stunningly bad.
SPEAKER 17 :
It is. You're right. Stunningly bad. I was having that conversation this last week with my son. He had a family member that was maybe thinking, you know, on the other side of the family, somebody thinking about buying a Range Rover, and his comment was, well... you know what, if you want to lease one, get rid of it after a couple of years. I wouldn't do it any longer than that as long as you own that thing when it's under warranty and you know that you might have some issues under warranty. But as far as owning one outright, yeah, no, go find something else.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and everybody assumes that because you spent a lot of money on it, it's a great vehicle. It's a classic example of... Of just, you know, money, not buying quality necessarily.
SPEAKER 17 :
So really not to, you know, not to belabor this, Mike, but you bring up a great point. And this is something I've yet to understand is what you just said. The perception is it's a high dollar car. It's cool. It's luxurious. And they are and they are sleek looking and they've done a good job on all of that. But their reliability, to your point, and I know because I've coached some Land Rover guys in the past, and I know what the average ticket price is when you go in there to get something fixed, and the reality is they are not a cheap car to own. Why don't people understand that, Mike?
SPEAKER 09 :
Status. For the life of me, we had one for about a year because... The wife just loved the interior and, you know, they're attractive and they're pretty and they're gorgeous. And they're actually pretty good four-wheel drives. They got a nice approach angle and stuff. But I spent, after I did the math, for every mile I drove, it cost me $1.78. Wow. Really? That's high. Yeah. Oh, it was unbelievable.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was in the shop constantly.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Constantly in the shop. Yeah. You know, it spent more time on the back of a trailer than it did on asphalt.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. And getting people, you know, you tell people that, though, Mike, and I've had this happen. You tell people that they're thinking about buying a new car and they just give you this deer in the headlight look like, yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm going to go buy it anyways.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you know, the other thing, another point to your point is that people don't really do a lot of due diligence. Most of the folks don't do the due diligence I think they need to when they're looking at something, either by talking with you or guys like Steve and what do they see come through the shop and what don't they like to work on and da-da-da-da-da. And there's plenty of sources. And if you're going to make the kind of investment that even a Hyundai costs today, you probably need to do some due diligence.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're right. No, you bring up a great point. And it's why, in my opinion, it's why car dealers still have successful Friday nights and Saturdays because worst two times of the evenings are the worst time you could ever go buy a car, by the way. And to your point, Mike, those dealers are selling cars off of emotion, not what factually that person needs.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. No, that's exactly correct. You were you were in the business. I spent a year selling cars when I was a kid, 19. And oh, my goodness gracious. You know, you just let them around. You know, well, I wanted something with a little bit more. So then you take them over to the high-end deal. You put it in, and all of a sudden, they're hooked. They don't want to go back to the Rambler.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's right. That's right. The idea being, and for all of you listening, this is how it works, and this is just the nature of the industry, Mike. You want to get their butt in the seat of one of those other high-end cars because once you do, it's not coming out.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. We used to have what we call the starters on the showroom. Now, this is a while back. But we had Monte Carlos with three speed on the column and bench seats. And, you know, they go, oh, okay. And then you'd show them the one with the cassette player and the console and the whole shooting match. And pretty soon they're selling themselves up. and we've managed to finance them way beyond what they should have been and stick them in the vehicle, and away they go. And if you're losing them, the main situation is put them back in the car and send them back out.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. Somebody just texted and said, if you do too much due diligence, you might end up buying nothing when it's all said and done. And my answer to that is, Mike, true and maybe not such a bad thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
I agree. I agree. Great point.
SPEAKER 17 :
Mike, appreciate you as always.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Take care.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'll go through some of these text messages and come back in a moment. Lines are open, by the way, 303-477-5600. Myself and Steve Horvath will be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service. George in Aurora, you're next. Go ahead, George.
SPEAKER 06 :
How are you doing there, John? Good. Before I forget, you do have a face for television. Really? That's a compliment. Well, thank you. Yes, thank you. I just got through looking at your face on the Internet. I appreciate that. Thank you. And everybody says, what does this guy look like? guy's got a face for television thank you george i appreciate that i've listened to you for on and off for quite a while but your comment and question about you know what kind of vehicles would people drive that that make them look obviously bad i hate to say this everybody all vehicles oh well in colorado i can't argue that one i mean but you know what it we traveled around a little bit it's not just It's a sign of the times. It's not just Colorado. You go to any of the big cities, everybody drives like just freaking idiots. And I hate to say this. My wife's standing right outside here. I seem to think that the women are driving worse than the men sometimes. I hate to say it. Because everybody is driving 20 miles an hour way too fast. Or slow.
SPEAKER 17 :
What I experienced, George, is it's one extreme or the other. Even on my way down here today, I mean, I don't drive slow. I drive the speed limit or even five above, depending upon where I'm going. And, you know, I'm not in the HOV lane today coming down I-70. I'm just doing my normal thing, not a ton of traffic. And, I mean, there are people zipping by that are having to – they're doing at least 80 miles an hour plus. And then yet I'll look over and there's somebody doing – you know, I'm not joking. They'll be doing 55 into 65. And these other guys are zooming around them and thinking, you guys are both sides of the aisle. You're just an accident waiting to happen. Yeah. Well, it works both ways.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're exactly right about the slow drivers. But the vast majority, it seems like if they don't want to push 10, 15 miles an hour over, at least 15, then you're unsafe also because if you don't keep up with the road traffic. That's right. And then, of course, that all ties into... the stopping distance and the distance between each vehicle. And of course, you know what those old rules are. How long is it for stopping distance? And the last thing people want to do is remember what they were taught supposedly decades ago, what the safety thing is. And speaking of safety, you had a topic, I think it was a couple weeks ago, that really Reminded me of something that's extremely important about what should be standard equipment in cars. Air conditioning for defrosting and defogging at any time of the year. I mean, people get in the car, especially in the fall and wintertime, they can't see out the window. And the other thing that's really bad, too, is the residual outgassing you get. From the vehicles, they get us on the windshield. I mean, that stuff pops up again. It's not like the weather. It's not cooperative. And I understand when it comes to the safety part of being able to see through the window. You're right. No, you're right, George. Absolutely. Absolutely. The new VW bus. The new VW bus, and when it comes to all electric, that new VW bus is so cute. I agree. And now they show... I agree. When you go camping.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, I love it. It's funny you say that. I saw one last night. My wife was commenting on it the other day as well. And, no, they have done a really good job on that. I have not investigated those much on pricing or haven't driven one or anything along those lines. But so far, everything I've seen, it looks fabulous.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, if I were to, and I'm from the older generation, I think that's the cutest frickin' thing that ever has come on the road. If they don't sell 10 million, I might be surprised. But the thing is, they show it with camping versions with a pop-top. And now, if you want to go camping and you got all electric, forget it. You got to have a hybrid. And I would expect that maybe in a year or two, they should or could have a hybrid version because if you want to take it on a long drive, you've got to have a hybrid. Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a great point. George, I appreciate it. No, thank you so much for listening. I do appreciate it very much. And, yeah, the new – if I get an opportunity to drive one, I will definitely give you guys a report on it. We do a lot of new car reviews and such, as you guys all know, and I appreciate that, George, very much. And, yeah, that – and Steve's a VW guy, so it's – And by the way, very, very cool car. I will give it that. Somebody asked me a moment ago, too, that, you know, why isn't John a tremendous influencer? He could be bigger than most of these big car influencers that are out there. And I said, I don't know. It's a great question. And I'll just straight up tell you it time. To be an influencer takes a tremendous amount of time. I mean, I know a lot of those guys make it look really easy. They sit in front of the microphone. They put their camera up and they start recording and so on. What you don't see, though, is the multiple takes and all the things that they did to get that ready to go and prep for it and so on. And I'll just be straight up honest. I don't like being in front of a camera. I'll just be really honest. My wife will vouch for you there. I don't even like my picture being taken, to be honest with you. So for me, being on video, TV, all of that, just not my thing. I don't know how else to say it. It's not me. It's not my thing. Maybe I need to get over that and start doing more. But it's just never been me from the time I was a little kid even. I was always the one behind the camera taking pictures, not the one in the pictures. And even going back through, you know, my mom passed away last September. So we've been going through a lot of family photos and things like that. And even my wife will comment on, you know, there's pictures of all these people, but you. I'm like, yeah, because I was usually the guy behind the camera taking them. And I don't like being in the pictures. So there's lots of family photos with me missing. because I just never did, even from a small boy, like having my picture taken. It's just, I don't know, just me. One of my phobias, I guess you could say. So, anyways, keep texting us. I appreciate it. We've got lines open as well, 303-477-5600. We'll come right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath. Of course, Charlie Grimes, our engineer, Larry Unger, answering phones. Craig in Denver, you are next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi. I got a F-150 2021 V6. I get a smell when it starts getting warm in the engine compartment.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Doesn't smell like oil. Doesn't smell like transmission. Okay. It doesn't smell electrical. It's just a different smell. I've changed out the cabin filter.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Not a sweet smell, is it?
SPEAKER 07 :
A tick sweet, but not a lot.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, sometimes sweet is antifreeze. Right. So that's what I was thinking.
SPEAKER 07 :
Coolant.
SPEAKER 16 :
Coolant, you know, getting it through the heater core or something like that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I've checked all those connections.
SPEAKER 17 :
So, and to make sure that I'm following correctly, Craig, are you smelling this in the cab or in the engine compartment itself? In the cab. In the cab. Okay, so you are smelling it in the cab, but it's not a normal, you know, burnt smell. And other question, how many miles are on it? I didn't get that, I don't think.
SPEAKER 1 :
75,000.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so it's not a huge amount of miles.
SPEAKER 16 :
So there's a couple of things. Well, you know, we could get something on the resistor for the fan. Sometimes you get a leaf or something that kind of gets a burn smell. That's something I've seen. And the other thing, too, is, you know, the BG does have a product where you can actually flush the EVAP system out really well. And sometimes that helps, too. We do that occasionally. You know, that helps with the smells, the funny smells that we get. That's more of the musty, bad smells. That generally helps that, but. That's what I was kind of thinking, just making sure that air box is cleaned out and everything.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. We'll do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Those are the things I'm thinking. If you can, if you're pretty handy, you can maybe pull that fan motor down, see if there's anything in it. Sometimes something gets stuck in there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, all great tips.
SPEAKER 17 :
The other thing, too, just as a try, we were talking earlier about Lysol on lawnmower tires and things like that. You might try with the fresh air intake, Craig, just spray a little bit of Lysol down in there. And here's where I'm going with this. See if the smell changes. If it does, then we know we're on the right track that Steve's going down with. There's something in the air box, the fans, something along those lines. And you know it's not a smell that it's pulling in from the engine compartment. It's probably in that area itself.
SPEAKER 07 :
Excellent. You guys are the best.
SPEAKER 16 :
Give that a whirl. And if you put it on recirculate, you see if that changes too. That's a good idea too. You know how you can keep it so it recirculates here inside.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 17 :
Give us some feedback on that, Craig, and let us know. Smells, by the way, for those of you listening, can get really – smells are like water leaks. They can get really difficult to pinpoint what's going on and why is that actually smelling. John and Cheyenne, you're next.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, just a question of the day. My wife and I were laughing in the car. We were just coming back. It's a at least 10-year-old Subaru Outback. With a cracked windshield, needing a bath, old green Colorado plates, and a coexist bumper sticker doing five under the limit in the left lane. Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Can't argue that one. Can't argue that one.
SPEAKER 05 :
And when you pass them on the right, they give you a dirty look.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'll give you – I'll one-up you on that one, John. And this is – again, I know a lot of people are like, man, I hate to say this because I'm not trying to stereotype anybody, this, that, and the other. But it is what it is. It's the reality. And I think part of our problem in the country today is nobody's willing to admit some of these things. Nobody wants to talk about it. Everybody wants to cover it up. And by the way, I think that's one of the worst things you can do. So my – automatic that I look at and say, okay, that's a driver that I just need to stay as far away from as I can because I know they're going to be a bad driver, is those cars that you know are at least 20 years of age. They most likely have multicolored panels on them because whoever bought it couldn't really afford to buy anything more so, meaning they probably aren't here legally. And, oh, by the way, they probably have a year-plus old temp tag on the back. I automatically know, John, that is a car I'm staying away from because on top of that, they're doing what you just said, and they're 10 under the speed limit.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, for sure. Those are the ones that are the scariest because... We had that happen here where an illegal with no license on unregistered hit one of our line trucks and he had no documentation at all. And the cop wouldn't even cite him.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. And the reason why they're 10 under is they don't know that. They think if they get pulled over, they're going to be deported, even though that's not what cops and state patrol and all that do. They're not ICE. They could really care less at the end of the day. They're not going to. But in their mind, they don't want any interaction with the law, so they all drive under the speed limit. And by the way, I know this to be true because I've talked to plenty of police officers that will vouch for me on that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. The other one. and you'll know this, is the sand and gravel trucks.
SPEAKER 17 :
You've got to stay away from that. You do. No, you do for obvious reasons. A, they're usually throwing stuff off. B, people may not realize this, but a lot of those drivers are contracted out. They've got their own tractor. The trailer belongs to somebody else, and they're hauling whatever it is that's in it for whoever is in charge of that said project. And, John, in a lot of cases, they're not legal either. A lot of those trucks won't pass an inspection. In fact, they'll get to a DOT inspection at times, and if that thing doesn't pass, they literally walk away, leave it, and go find another truck because they're not paying a lot of money for those trucks in the first place. Another thing to stay away from. Good point, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
The other thing with them is, you know, it's illegal for them to drive on the interstate with their loads uncovered.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, but they do anyways.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can't get a trooper or a county sheriff to them. You know, you always have talked about the Wheat Ridge police, how they hang out looking for speeders. Yep. Why don't they pull those guys over for having an uncovered load?
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, it's funny you say that, because this last week, I think it was Tuesday, I was coming down, and there was somebody running patrol. Wheat Ridge Police was running patrol on I-70. And I'm not joking, John. There were three gravel trucks in a row, probably all going to the same place, none of them with their loads covered, none of them getting pulled over.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's because, again, they're probably illegal vehicles. Or they may not have a good CDL, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. And the cop doesn't want to go through all the hassle. He's just turning, you know, it's the look the other way type stuff half the time. Yep. I don't know where to go. You guys have a great day, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, you do the same, John. Appreciate you very much. Yeah, not trying to be derogatory or put anybody into a box, but in my opinion, there are certain vehicles, when you see them on the road, and that was part of the question of the day, you just automatically know, I should stay away from that particular vehicle because that is a... an accident or a money pit waiting to happen because in a lot of cases, and we've proven this over and over again, you know, Paul Loomer, who's our great sponsor on here for insurance, they'll tell you that three to four out of 10 people around you have no insurance. It's more like four today, about 40% have no insurance. And so meaning that if you have any kind of a problem, if you don't have uninsured motorists, you're not going to get anything fixed because if they run into you, there's no money for them to fix anything at all. And, again, I try to be as kind as I can to all people that are here and so on, but the reality is – there are certain expectations of driving everywhere in this country included and you need to make sure you've got all your ducks in a row to be able to do so and it's not fair to everybody else that's paid their way paid their fair share registered their vehicles and so on this out of you know this you know i i get it somebody can run a month or so out on their temp tag because of paperwork issues or whatever but typically whoever sold you that vehicle will get you to their temp tags that's really not even an excuse but These ones that are 3, 6, 9, 12, I saw one the other day that was two years old on a temp tag. In my opinion, they are just skating along. All the rest of us are paying. They are not, and it's a bunch of garbage.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and two things. One, I did see that the Highway Patrol is starting to crack down a little more on it. I did see a news story the other day. And the other thing is we always have to remember driving is a privilege, not a right.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, and I agree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
There's a lot of people, even on the conservative side of things, that will tell you that driving is a right. And no, it is not. It is a privilege. And it always cracks me up when, and I should do a show on this sometime, the sovereign citizens that you'll watch on all these different clips where the police will pull them over. I'm traveling. I'm not driving. I'm traveling. No, idiot. You're driving. You're a moron. Get out of the car. You make all the rest of our side look really bad because of your stance on things, and you're an absolute, utter moron. Sorry, you are. I like when they take him to jail.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I do too.
SPEAKER 17 :
And then they get in front of the judge, and they try to go through this big, long spiel. I love the judge part. You know, you're not authorized to rule over me. And I'm a sovereign citizen and I'm this and I'm that. And, you know, the Constitution is a contract and, you know, it's a corporation and blah, blah, blah. They go through this big, long spiel, which, by the way, I've researched all that for my daily show. It's all a bunch of hooey. And these people are dumb as rocks. And anybody that goes down that path, and if you're one of those people listening, I challenge you to go find yourself something else to do because you are dead wrong in what your thought process is on all of that. Because, no, that is not how things were originally, nor were they set up that way. And whoever's fed you all that garbage, it is exactly that, garbage.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And the frustrating thing to me is that police officer is spending that much time getting a supervisor where they could be out protecting and helping.
SPEAKER 17 :
Instead, they're working on this knucklehead sovereign citizen moron that's trying to prove a point that he can't prove anyways. And it's just like, you've got to be kidding me. Really? Really? You're going to go down that path. And I can only imagine what some of these cops, when they pull up, start hearing that, they're thinking, oh, geez, I've got to do this now. I got the booby prize for today. Literally. All right. Enough of that. If you guys have thoughts on that, text me or call in or whatever. We'll be back here in a few minutes. A couple more hours coming your way. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
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What’s the real story behind transmission temps, AC cleaning, modern car tech, and JB Weld’s false promises? John and Steve answer listener questions on this encore episode of DRIVE RADIO, offer hard-earned advice, and even rant about rental cars and the mystery of drowsiness alerts. From hauling trailers to handling Teslas in Loveland, this episode has it all—auto repair wisdom with a side of laughs.
SPEAKER 20 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath. Gino's Auto Service with me today. Of course, Larry Unger answering phones. Charlie Grimes, our engineer. I had a question that came in on the text line talking about a towing. And Ken Rackley and I had done this a few weeks ago. But this is somebody that's going to be towing a larger trailer. all the way down to Tennessee with a 2017 GMC or Chevy. This is a Chevy because it's a high country. Chevy high country, 1500 with a 6.2, and was asking. One-way trip going east, what's a safe transmission temperature to stay under? Because it's a one-way trip, doesn't want to, you know, in this particular case, doesn't have the ability to go get a bigger truck and all that, which I fully understand, but it's hauling this thing down to Tennessee. So what's a safe transmission temp to stay under? And what I've always used as a rule of thumb and have done this for years and years, I want to see that transmission temperature stay under 230 degrees. 230 is on the high side. And if you even go look up and says, you know, what's the operating temperature need to be, you'll see things, you know, I just even went on the Internet and checked. It'll tell you you want to be between 170 and 225. So when you hit that 230 mark, yeah. In my opinion, you need to figure out how to get that temp down, take some load off, slow down. If you're on a heavy grade, go a little slower, drop a gear, do whatever you can to get more circulation and so on. But yeah, you start getting into that 230 mark, it's starting to get a little hot and I wouldn't want it being that hot. So try to keep it 225 if you can or below. You may find yourself hitting that 230 mark at times as long as it's brief, kind of like an engine. If you're just briefly going up over that, you know, in the engine, it's about 210 or so, 220, depending upon what you're doing. If it starts getting above it, you want the same situation. You want to, you know, lower that back down again. That's right, back off a little bit, take some load off.
SPEAKER 05 :
The nice thing about the newer cars now, we have a... Where we can select temperature. We never used to know.
SPEAKER 03 :
You can look at that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
You never knew before. That is such valuable information. Oh, yeah, huge. So in this particular case, yes. Look at it that way. Try to keep that below, you know, that 230 mark or so, and you should be. And, by the way, have a great trip and a safe trip and enjoy the sights. Great time of the year to go. So just, you know, be careful and have fun. J.R. in Denver, you're next. Yeah, hi. Good morning. Good morning. Afternoon now, I guess it is.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, it is. Yes. I have a question about Gino's advertisement about AC cleaning. Yeah. The refrigerant.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. If the AC on a car doesn't leak, will it get dirty?
SPEAKER 05 :
Over time... So really quick, over... Go ahead, sorry. It gets a little air in there too, but it does get some dirt in there too.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, keep in mind, JR and everybody else listening, the compressor itself is a wearable item. So... And granted, there's oil inside of the AC system and so on to keep the compressor oiled and all of that, and that's how the system works. But even house guys will tell you the same thing. There's going to be a certain amount of wear and things that are happening in the compressor that is circulating through the entire system. Yes, there are tiny little quote-unquote screens. They're not really filters. They're screens that sort of keep some of that debris out. from circulating the system, but there's no way it's going to keep all of that out, and the smaller particles will just pass through. So to answer your question, yes, it's not really the Freon that's getting dirty per se, J.R., but the oil that's in that system can get contaminated over time.
SPEAKER 06 :
So Steve has a machine that will clean that Freon out, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so what we're doing, we're extracting all that Freon out of there, and the machine is cleaning it, and then it's adding... a little bit if it's needed or none if it doesn't. Depends on the situation. Yeah, what you've got, and then it puts it back in. And we're also pulling that, because there's a little bit of air that gets in there, too. We're trying to get that, too. Vacuuming it down, basically. Yeah. And so we're kind of restoring it all.
SPEAKER 06 :
So since it's your shop, I have a 2010 4Runner. I don't have any problem with AC, but I'll get that checked and cleaned and whatever. What would the cost be on that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think it's a little bit over $200,000. Right in that area, about 220.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I would have to leave my car there and then maybe use one of your loaners or something?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, absolutely. And that's how we kind of work it anyway. We like you to leave your car. It's just how our business works better that way. That's why we give you the loaner. Take the loaner. And it takes an hour or so to get that machine to do its thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which means you've got a total of a job by the time you pull it in, do all of that, check it, inspect it, test drive it when you're done. It's a two, two and a half hour process, J.R.? ?
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, maybe I can get an appointment sometime. I'll call the shop, okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
And by the way, great question, JR. I think that's one a lot of folk don't understand how air conditioning itself even works, and most people think there's no moving parts inside of the AC unit because it's the Freon doing all of it, but that is not the case.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that compressor has a little piston in it, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. A little engine, basically. Exactly. A little vacuum pump, basically.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that piston can wear out just a small amount.
SPEAKER 03 :
When a compressor fails, what you just described, J.R., exactly. When a compressor fails, which they do, it then fails internally. Typically something breaks, a ring, or the piston can go bad, or even the little valves. All sorts of things in there that can actually go bad. And what happens in an AC system is it literally runs fine little then metal particulates throughout the entire system. And it's why, and for all of you listening... If you go and get the AC fixed properly, it's not just the compressor, but there's other components that we want to make sure we're replacing at the same time that have been contaminated by that compressor failure. You'll go to some shops, JR, where they'll just put a compressor in it and send you down the road, and you will be coming back in the not-too-distant future because it will fail again because those particles were not removed from the system.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had that done before. I mean, I had it explode. The compressor exploded, so to speak. There you go. I had to replace this and that. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's why. No, great question, by the way, JR. Thank you for that because a lot of folks don't understand how the whole AC thing works, and that's it. And we can't warranty it.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, not unless you do all the components. We can warranty it if we replace all the stuff. Our manufacturer won't give us those parts back unless we do it all right.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. That's right. Tony in Colorado Springs is next. Tony, go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I got a 97 Chevy K1500 truck, 4L60 transmission, automatic. Are those notorious for leaking around the oil pan gasket?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, I got one that's leaking. I was going to change that, and while I was going to do that, I was going to change the filter on that transmission.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, if you're going to go ahead and drop it and put a new gasket in, absolutely do that. Sure, just buy the kit. The kit will come with the screen and everything in it and do it all at once.
SPEAKER 09 :
If it comes with a cork gasket, are those okay?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I like the neoprene ones a little better. If you can find one of the brands in Napa, we'll have them. If you can find one with a neoprene gasket, I like that better than the cork gaskets. And they'll generally offer you either one. Buy the rubber gasket.
SPEAKER 09 :
And what do you think about putting – I like to put gaskets on anything just dry.
SPEAKER 03 :
On a transmission pan, dry only. You do not put anything at all on a transmission pan gasket, period. Even the old cork ones, you might have put a little glue in a couple of places to keep it held down. so you don't bend it yeah it wasn't in the old days but the neoprene ones the way those even work tony they'll even have uh on every third or fourth hole the hole itself in the neoprene will be a little smaller and the bolt will poke through so it'll actually kind of suck around the bolt keeping the gasket in place and that's how that's why i like the neoprene ones a little better than the cork ones
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. And then, you know, typically with valve cover gaskets, I don't really torque those. I just kind of buy the feel of it. Would that be okay with you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they're supposed to be – I'd have to look up the specs, but I think 30 pounds or so is probably – it might not even be that much. It might be 15. I'd have to look. Honestly, Tony, I've done so many of them over the years that you just know where it needs to be by the feel, and I never have looked up torque specs on a transmission pan. I hate to say that. I just never have. Never had to.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I did one on an Oldsmobile I used to have, and it was an old 70 Olds, and it never leaked, and I just did it by the feel, you know, and it worked out okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, in fact, I don't know that I've ever seen. It's nine pounds. I just looked. It's supposed to be nine pounds. So, yeah, it's 25. I was thinking Newton pounds. It's 25 Newton pounds. That's what I was thinking is where the 30 was, was the Newton pounds. Because on the smaller torque wrenches, you typically go off of that. Because most of your bigger wrenches don't even go down to nine. You have to have a special torque wrench to even do that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I've never seen anybody use one doing that, Tony, in my entire life. Have you, Steve?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. No, no, no. But they are coming up with some interesting torque measures.
SPEAKER 03 :
They are. Digital ones even now.
SPEAKER 05 :
And even like putting screws in. And because we're torquing everything, we have to say we're torquing.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's become a lot different. But in 1997, no, you didn't need to do that back then.
SPEAKER 09 :
I see. Okay. And then Dextron 6 is compatible with Dextron 3 then, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, everything's backwards compatible on Dextron, yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Hey, thanks a lot.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you're very welcome, Tony. I appreciate it. And sorry, I need to correct myself because somebody probably will. On that one, I was looking at the later model transmission. On that earlier one, it's 10 to 12 foot-pounds, but still not very much. So bottom line, you just want to snug them up and don't over-torque them. And I will say this, the... The neoprene gaskets are a little bit more forgiving if you happen to over-tighten one a little bit more than what you should have. They're definitely more forgiving than the cork gaskets are.
SPEAKER 05 :
Did you use the little stubby ratchets when you did it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so you didn't over-torque. Yeah, that's the way I always did it, too. Because I used to have one, you know, one of the, like, three-inch long ones where you can't over-torque it. Yeah. Actually, what I used to do, and give my secrets away here, what I used to do is, and I still own it, back in the day, before we had all these fancy impacts and all the rest of the stuff that we have today, I had a speed wrench. And some of you know what a speed wrench is. And because it's not much longer than that, I used to use a speed wrench, and I would just tighten them up with a speed wrench because it made it really fast, and I knew exactly where I needed to be torque-wise with the speed wrench, and off you went.
SPEAKER 05 :
For the younger listeners, you're going to have to be able to describe a speed wrench to them.
SPEAKER 03 :
A speed wrench looks like a big U in the middle of the wrench with a knob at the end where you can spin it around. And they work great for doing things like that. Like a little crank. Like a little crank. Like the old drills, even, where you could hand drill and so on. So that was what a speed wrench was. And for a lot of you listening, when you put on everything from oil pan gaskets to valve cover gaskets and things like that, the speed wrenches worked real, they were fast. You didn't have to drag a hose out or anything. They were just about as fast as using an impact. And you knew exactly where you were at the end. And you didn't have to retighten anything because you had everything that you needed and just made that job pretty fast and handy. And that's how I used to do those back in the day. So, all right, we'll be right back. Don't go anywhere. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath. Again, Charlie Grimes, our engineer, Larry Unger, answering phones. Lines are open. Feel free to call in. We'll get you answered quickly. 303-477-5600. Somebody called in earlier off air and talked to Charlie for a little bit and thought it would be something good for us to talk about, which I agree, by the way. And that is for some of you that don't necessarily drive, you know, modern cars. And what I mean by modern cars is a lot of the new cars, even 10 years and newer, have got everything from, you know, there's lane keep assist now that actually will even move the steering wheel for you to put you back in the lane, blind spot monitoring, warnings if you're getting out of the lane, all sorts of things. Bells and whistles can go off. I call it the nanny system on cars. And they literally can be very effective. nanny-ish in how they alert you to different things that are happening when you're driving the car. But a lot of you that are driving older cars may not be familiar with any of those systems I just mentioned. And yet, you may travel somewhere, as in the case of the caller that called in, where you travel somewhere and rent a car. Now you pop in a car. And it could have all of the things I just mentioned plus some. It could have automatic wipers. It could have automatic high beam, low beam. You name it. There's all these features now that are coming on cars. In some cases, standard. They're just included with the car. It's the package the car comes with. And so now you hop in this car that's got all of these newfangled features. And then on top of that, the performance of these new cars versus what you could have been driving 10, 15 years ago. It's second to none, and I'm not exaggerating in the least. There are some new cars, stock, no modifications, that will run as well as high-performance cars did back in the 70s. This is not a joke. I mean, literally, they run super well compared to what they used to. So if you're not super familiar, the point of the caller was, If you're not super familiar with all of these things that I'm mentioning and you go rent a car someplace and you hop in it, you could be in for a real rude awakening as to how all of this stuff works. And in some cases, maybe love it. In some cases, you might hate everything about it because the nanny side of it, there can be bells and whistles and things going off and so on that you're just not used to. And unfortunately... Again, I'm not trying to knock anybody, but when you go to the rental car counter at most airports... You're doing good to get the keys and the paperwork, and here's the car in the spot. See you by. If you're expecting them to walk you through, this is how you turn the lights on. I can't tell you, by the way, in the winter months when we get our earlier dark days, and I go down I-70 West, and that's coming right out of Pena Boulevard. Literally, they're getting right on where I get on at 225. All that merging is right there. I can't tell you how many cars are coming from the airport that have no lights on. Yes, the daytime running lights are on, and they can see a little bit in front of them, and the dash lights are all on because of the electronics, but there's no lights on, no taillights, no headlights, no nothing, because somebody at the rental car place never told them you have to turn the car to, you know, turn the light switch to either auto or on. Otherwise, if it's in the off position, you have no lights. So my point is the rental car counters... are not going to tell you anything at all about how the car functions, how it's going to drive, how to turn on and off some of these features I just mentioned. Because, by the way, a lot of them can be turned on and off if you know exactly what you're doing. On top of that, you've got all sorts of, depending upon the model of the car, you may have all but one big screen in front of you that you're now having to figure out what buttons to push in the screen to even get some of these features I'm mentioning done. On top of that, even trying to figure out how to turn the radio on and off. And again, it depends on the make and model of the car. A lot of manufacturers are now going to buttons for the very reason that I'm talking about. People are getting tired of having to find the hidden button in the screen. So they're going back to manual buttons. But you may find yourself hopping in a rental car that is completely unknown to you. And you have no idea, by the way, even though they may tell you you're going to be in this car... They are apt to switch that on you last minute. There's a funny Seinfeld episode, by the way, about this where he's got a car reserved. Remember that one, Charlie? He's got the car reserved. He goes up, and they don't have the car any longer. And his whole point is, well, I reserved this car. And they're like, well, no, you didn't. And he's like, yes, I did. Point is, you may think you're getting a Toyota Camry. And you show up and it's a Kia Optima or whatever. I mean, reality is chances of you getting the car that you picked is rare. You're normally going to get thrown into a like car or an upgrade or something along those lines because they're just like anything else. They're overbooking. Because they know a certain amount of people won't show. And if everybody does, there's not enough cars. And now you're going to be put into something else. My whole point and the point of the caller was... Be prepared. You might even want to sit in the lot, in the rental car lot, for just a few minutes and familiarize yourself with everything that's going on internally in the car. And then be prepared as you start driving it that it's going to be, in some cases, a completely different experience from what you're driving now. And don't be shocked at that is the point. Yeah. And in some cases, you're going to feel like you need to fight the wheel because the lane keep assist wants to get you back in the lane. And if you're close to one edge or the other, it will bring you back in and you feel like you're fighting it and it's fighting you. In some cases, just stay in the middle of the lane and you won't have that problem. But for example, if you don't turn your signal on. And then you try to move into the other lane, it's going to fight you and not allow you to because your signal's not on and it thinks you're being distracted and it's trying to keep you back in the lane. So these are all things that a lot of the new cars do that if you're not familiar with it, you'll feel like you're fighting the car and you are in a way because it's trying to do things for you that you're not doing. So just be aware of all of that. And I wish there was a way that you would be able to familiarize yourself with that car before you get in it. But I'm just telling you straight up, I've rented enough cars over the years. Good luck with that one.
SPEAKER 05 :
And normally... not all the time they have the owner's manual in there that you can go to. But if you look at that, I looked at it the other day, you know, it's an inch and a half thick.
SPEAKER 03 :
A lot of them are all even electronic now because of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Cause they've gotten so, so hard to follow all that. Um, And the other thing, too, I've noticed is it's really dark when you're trying to pick up that car.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, because you're in the garage as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's underneath, and you've got to get out to the light to see what's like. And the other thing, too, take pictures.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Thank you, Steve, for saying that.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know how many scratches and dents, and you don't want to be responsible for it. And they're not looking at it anymore for you. They're not with you going over that list. I think Enterprise still kind of does that.
SPEAKER 03 :
They rent to collision centers, and they do some things that the typical airport guys aren't doing. And, again, my point is, and this caller's point was, don't be surprised. at how many differences there are on the car you're renting versus the car that you own, and just be aware of all that. And to Steve's point, take a lot of pictures. And then I would also suggest that if it's so dark in the garage that you're struggling to see, once you get out of the garage and you get out even in a nearby street, pull over, familiarize yourself with the car. That way you'll be in a lot better shape as you continue on that particular journey.
SPEAKER 05 :
I got one more joke about it, too. My wife did call me once renting a car, and she didn't know how to start it. She couldn't start it.
SPEAKER 03 :
How do I start this thing?
SPEAKER 05 :
You can find the button. Yeah, it was a few years back, but I even know how to – It was a button thing, and it's a whole other deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have a story on that I'll share as soon as we come back. So don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. I appreciate it very much. Bob in Colorado Springs, you are next.
SPEAKER 10 :
I appreciate you, John. Thank you very much for taking my call.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're welcome, Bob.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, you've helped me before. I got that Chevy Silverado 2000. I had a radiator leak here a while back, and you told me to get that KCL?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, it worked perfect. Good. Everything was fine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good.
SPEAKER 10 :
A little while after that, my low coolant light came on again. I said, dang it. So I checked it out. I looked at my reservoir, and yeah, it was low. So I said, well, I'm going to add that and maybe get another thing in that case seal and try that. So I did, and anyway, I discovered I'm still leaking somewhere, and I didn't know where at all. And so I'm underneath of the hood. I'm trying to see. We're on the block here, there, everywhere. I didn't see nothing. So... I seen the side of my battery, you know, your batteries on the right-hand side when you're looking at the engine. Uh-huh. And I noticed some, like, yellow stuff sprayed out onto it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
I said, oh, gosh. And so down alongside of my radiator, you know, what is that, plastic or fiberglass?
SPEAKER 03 :
Plastic. It's plastic.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a composite, but plastic, basically, with aluminum. So it's an aluminum core with plastic tanks.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, I got a little teeny skinny little crack, one and then two.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is there any way to seal that, John?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, there is not. Not on that plastic. Even the case seal, because it's plastic, won't do anything to fill that, Bob. That's one where Napa sells new radiators for that, and I would not. There's guys out there that will claim that they can fix that or even put a new tank on the end. Don't. Just go buy a new radiator. You're way ahead at the end.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, yeah, because, see, I got that JB Weld.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I won't fix it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I won't fix it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Don't even mess with it. Don't even waste your time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, okay, yeah, because this has 550 degrees Fahrenheit, radiators, mufflers.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I probably shouldn't say this open on air because JB Weld will be mad at me, but I'll be straight up honest, Bob. And I've had JB Weld in my toolbox forever, and I don't know why. Because in the 30 years of using it, I have yet to ever find anything it actually fixes, and I'm not exaggerating. I keep it around. I'll try it periodically. But I don't know, maybe other than like a plastic dash piece or something like that, I don't know, Bob, if there's anything, structurally speaking, I've ever fixed with J.B. Weld, no matter what their claims are. And if any of you listening can tell me otherwise, please do. But, Bob, I've never found it to fix anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you, John. I did buy it. I did put it on. I sanded it. I cleaned it. I did alcohol on it, everything like that. I thought, okay, this is great. This is going to work. And it didn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
So you're with me. Again, Bob, I don't know why. I don't know whether it's me. It's bad luck. If anybody's listening and has ever had any kind of luck with that, I would love to know because I never have, Bob.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, gosh, I couldn't believe them advertising that, 550 degrees for the night.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Slip 50 had a good run for a long time, and it did nothing either.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, it didn't last me too long, about a day and a half.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, John.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, Bob. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just a minute, just a minute. Go ahead. You got a minute?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, go right ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, do you know where I can get me a radiator?
SPEAKER 03 :
Napa will have one, and for that car, that truck, they'll stock one, Bob.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. Easy enough.
SPEAKER 10 :
The whole radiator. The whole radiator.
SPEAKER 03 :
The whole radiator. Yep. They'll have one. Okay, John. Thank you so much. You bet, Bob. Nope. Thank you. You too. Appreciate you. Yeah, no, those types of parts, yeah, Napa has. And, again, he's down at Colorado Springs. I'm pretty sure they'll have one down at one of the stores there. If not, they can get that out of our distribution center up here in Denver typically next day at most. In some cases, same day. So the likelihood of not finding that is pretty slim. They'll most likely have one of those in stock. That's a very common, especially in that era. And knowing there's still a lot of those trucks on the road, that's a pretty common part. It's a good vehicle. So back to the JB Weld thing. Have you ever in your life fixed anything, structurally speaking, with JB Weld?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm trying to think. I know I've tried. I have, too. I've yet to ever have it work. I did buy a little J.B. Weld to fix a wooden thing in the house. That's different. And I was able to drill it and do some things. That worked really good for that. I've never had a car part yet work. No, I'm trying to think.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 05 :
You would include an ear on or something that fell off later.
SPEAKER 03 :
Maybe if I'm trying to fill a hole in a plastic part or something like that, maybe I've had some luck there, but then it looks awful when you're done. So when it comes to engine-type things and the things that we were just talking about a moment ago, I've never had it work. No, no. And I don't know why I keep it around. I do. I don't know why, because I've never had it work yet. Habit, I guess.
SPEAKER 05 :
I've been racking my brain here for the last couple minutes thinking about, when did it work?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, good question that came in. And I asked if I could answer this on air. I'm going to answer it on air either way. If you hear the answer to the email question, please let me know, and I won't type back. But otherwise, I'll answer this after we're off air. But the question is, there's a lot of new car manufacturers. In this case, this is a Nissan, but it's true across the board. where these manufacturers are asking you or requiring you to run lighter and lighter weight oil. In this particular case, 0.20. And this is part of what's going on even with the 6.2 liter engines that GM is now recalling. They're going to move to a 0.40 weight oil on the recall of the 6.2s. So the question in this particular email is, is that 0.20 too light? I personally believe it is in a lot of cases, but here's the challenge. If your car is under warranty and it is requiring 020 oil, and I understand that it's hard for them to determine viscosity with an oil report. So let's say you run 1030. So you switch from 020 to 1030. I understand that if you have an engine failure, it's really hard for the manufacturer to do an oil test to determine what the viscosity was. But they can get really picky and say, I want receipts for this oil change, even though you did it yourself, which is okay. It's all legal to do. There's nothing wrong with that. They can't deny warranty because you did your own oil change. But what they can do is, hey, I want receipts. I want to know what filter you bought, and I want to know what oil you bought, and I want to see the receipts. They can't ask for that. If you don't have 020 that you've bought, even though you might have put 1030 in it, you might find yourself in a warranty denial because you can't prove you put 020 back in it. And here's my point. If you go to a Jiffy Lube or anywhere else to get an oil change done, or you go to Steve, and they put anything other than 020 in it, and you have an engine problem later, could they deny that claim? Yes, they could. So while I believe... and I think a lot of technicians do as well, that the 020 isn't heavy enough, if you vary from that under warranty, you could have problems. So my recommendation is while the car is under warranty, especially run the oil they're asking you to run. And they're on the hook for the warranty sides of things. Now, once it's out of warranty and the car's got some miles and such on it, if you decide on your own you want to change viscosity and do something a little bit different, that's on you. Just remember that if something happens, it's on you. You're on your own. So I'm still one where if the manufacturer – and I get it. There's CAFE ratings and a lot of other things that are coming into play as to why they're requiring that lighter weight oil – But unless you've got some really good backup data to determine that I can switch to a 1030 and still be okay, I wouldn't.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no. And they're even getting lighter. They're 016s and 012s or 08s or something.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And, you know, honestly, we're not doing near as many engines as we used to. The unfortunate thing about all this is time will tell. We don't really, really know.
SPEAKER 03 :
In a lot of cases, time will tell, especially when it comes to the newer weights that we're talking about here.
SPEAKER 05 :
But the 020 has been out for quite a while. We've not had any problems.
SPEAKER 03 :
The 020 has been out for a while. I'm getting a little scared. Some of the 016s and 012s I don't know about. It's almost like water. Even the 020, folks, I did an oil change here recently with 020 and room temperature. You feel like you're pouring water in. I mean, it's that thin pouring in because the cold temperature viscosity is so thin. Part of that they're doing to get the engine up to operating temperature quicker. They want lubrication with the thinner oil and so on. Personally, is that good enough? Again, time will tell. I'm with Steve on that one. I don't know. I mean, GM is switching out the 6.2s from the 0.20 to the 0.40, so they're thinking that the 20 isn't heavy enough in the hotter conditions. They're going to run to the 40 side of things. Although, even then, I'm wondering if there's an inherent problem with that engine, which in some cases there is. I hate to tell GM this, but that 0.40 isn't going to make a hell of a bit of difference when it's all said and done. It's a feel-good measure, I think, that they're doing for some of their customers. But if there's an inherent problem and that engine's going to let go, that 40-weight oil, frankly, isn't going to change anything one way or the other. Interestingly enough, on my own 6.2, because I have one of these that's under the recall, so I own a truck that falls underneath all of that. I drove it today. I've been driving it daily since. I haven't stopped driving it. Did an oil change in it recently. And because there's been some known problems with the 6-2, I took a few extra steps. So I drained a little bit of oil out into a cup first before I let the rest of it drain. I wanted to see, you know, it went out in the sun. Is there any particles? Is there anything shiny? I put it on a paper towel even. I went one step further then and even took the oil filter off and cut it all apart. Did you? Right. Check the paper inside. What went out in the sun? Is there any particles? Is there anything in the filter? Because, again, that will show you, is there anything? I'm not doing an oil analysis per se under a microscope, but you can get a pretty good idea looking in the sun. I've seen enough oil that's had problems and deteriorations. You can see it. Trust me, you can see it. And in my case, nothing. Not a thing. Not a particle. Not a nothing. Now, does that mean my engine is good? Well, it is for right now. I don't know what it's going to be tomorrow, but it is for now. So I went ahead and changed oil, and I'll put a Napa Gold filter back on it, keep rolling along, and see what happens.
SPEAKER 05 :
And what year is it? My truck's not under that.
SPEAKER 03 :
21 to 24. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
So my truck's four years old.
SPEAKER 03 :
So you're right outside of it. Interesting. 21 to 24. And on the 6.2s only. All right. We're going to take a quick break. Got a call coming in. 303-477-5600. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, hi. I just said I wasn't going to call today, but when you started talking about these new cars to get in to familiarize yourself with, they really should take a few minutes. And I had that Grand Wagoneer for five weeks while my truck was fixed, as you know. And it had this... And it happened in the same spot more than once. I'm driving back from Denver to Steamboat, and this little coffee cup icon with a steaming cup says, drowsiness detected. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I couldn't believe it. Everything they had on it. And, hey, Steve, I've been meaning to ask you a question when you've been on. Are those tokens in the bottom of the BG cans worth anything to your mechanics? Yeah, absolutely. They are still.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think they get a buck or 50 cents or a dollar. Or they can go towards apparel or whatever. Absolutely. Yeah, if you've got a few, I'm sure I'd give them to my guys. They'd love it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I've got about a dozen of them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, damn.
SPEAKER 16 :
Great. Yeah. But then I just got one MOA that didn't have one in it, and they've gone to the 44K in a plastic bottle that goes into the – Right. So you don't have to use a funnel now.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
So that works well. And, John, one question, because you've told me before, but for my F-150 four-wheel drive 2010 – What are the shocks you told me before to put on that?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'd put the Rancho 9000s if it were me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rancho 9000. All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're adjustable. You can kind of figure what setting you'd like to be at. Typically, I start at usually three and just see how the ride is. If you want a little stiffer, then turn the knob to the four or five. And if you want a little softer, then go to one or two. And that's what I do. And I've sold those. Well, I use them still now, Jeff, but I sold those for when they first came out even. That was an invention that came out probably 30 years ago, and I sold a ton of those back in the day, and I still love them.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. Well, I'll go to the Napa here. I was just there the other day after I got my truck back. I had my mechanic put brakes on and switch out the snow tires and do an oil change and got everything at Napa and had my mechanic up here do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 16 :
And so that's the thing. I'll go there and get those.
SPEAKER 03 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 16 :
And have them put them on. Good deal. But great. Great show as always.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you, Jeff.
SPEAKER 16 :
You guys have a good week.
SPEAKER 03 :
We'll do it. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Mark, you're next. Go ahead. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Hey, Mark. How's things?
SPEAKER 07 :
Good. I'm a GM shareholder. I got quite a bit. I asked for Mary Barra to get the boot.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good for you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'm done with this woman. She's got a bicycle that has a backpedal gear on it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, as you know, she's one of those woke CEOs that has bought into all of that nonsense and isn't, and I'm sorry to say, Mark, isn't a car person.
SPEAKER 07 :
We need another Lee Iacocca in the deal.
SPEAKER 03 :
The problem you're going to have, as you know, though, is GM made a lot of money last year.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, that helped me out on my stocks, but still I don't like her.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't either. But that's what they're going to come back and tell you. It's about the dollar. Yeah, you made a lot of money last year. And, by the way, they made it in spite of her.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well. My question is this. When's the next generation of towels? Because I'm not touching this one right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
They just did a refresh on the body just now, just in 2025. There's a refresh. It just came out. Pretty good looking. Yeah. So outside of that, it's going to be a while.
SPEAKER 07 :
You said the interior, they got rid of the buttons on the column. They moved back to a little shifter.
SPEAKER 03 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
On a new one. Because I have talked to my guys at Emek. They really don't want to sell me a 6.2. They want nothing to do with that right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Even on a 2025? Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Why? I guess they're just not comfortable with this engine yet. I guess they want me to wait a while.
SPEAKER 03 :
Everything I have read, Mark, after they went to the 2025 model year, I haven't read anything about any issues in 2025. And it's been only the 2024 down on the 6.2s. And, again, I have one. I was just explaining what I did last weekend on mine. And I drove it today.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you think it's all right. I'll wait until the new model, though. I don't think that's available until September.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'd have to double-check on that. I've driven a new 2025 Tahoe with the 6.2 as a press car with the new body style and so on. So I don't know why you couldn't buy one. I think you can.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Yeah. All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Just between you and I, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one. That's just me. It wouldn't bother me any. Now, on the same token, my kids just bought one, but they bought the diesel.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know anything about that. I guess I'll have to wait until your... Your son or your daughter, tell me a little bit more about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
We've owned some of those in the past as a fleet, and they got a little three-liter inline-six diesel, Duramax diesel. They actually work very, very well. High mileage on fuel, 30 miles to the gallon. They work great, Mark. They don't have the same, you know, top-end power. So say, for example, you're pulling around a semi at 80 miles an hour, 70 miles an hour or whatever. They don't have the same upper-end power that the 6.2 does, but outside of that, they work beautiful. Probably great for towing. They work great, yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I want some for my trailer, though.
SPEAKER 03 :
They tow great, Mark. The diesel will tow better than the 6.2 does. Okay. So that's another option. It's their little Duramax diesel, and they work great. Are they hard to get, the diesel ones? No, no.
SPEAKER 07 :
They had a generation diesel up, $4 million cell wall, so they fixed this one?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the only issues this one has, and I don't know how much of an issue you want to say, it's got a maintenance schedule at about $100,000. You're supposed to do the rear belt that drives the oil pump, and why they put it in the back, I don't know, because you've got to pull the transmission out to do that job. It's about a $1,500 to $2,000 job. When it's all said and done, it's required at about $100,000. That's the only drawback to that engine. Okay. Other than that, if you own it to $100,000, then that's what you'll have to do.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Well, I'll have to take another look at that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go drive one, Mark. If you get a chance, and if Emick has one or somebody's got one that you could go hop in and drive, go drive one. Okay. You'll be pleasantly surprised, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, all right. Well, I'll have to give it a shot because I've got that 18 with only 30,000 miles on it. So they want to take that in and trade. Well, sure they do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure they do. Absolutely they do. I want to know how much. Yeah, they want that tomorrow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, John, on another note, the 03 is going away at 11 a.m. on Monday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Awesome. Good for you.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's going to be a sad day for me.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know, but it's all good.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, but I'm not going to do this again, keep a car for 22 years. It's kind of stupid as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that one I can't argue with you on at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, Mark, good one. Appreciate you very much. Steve and Cheyenne, go ahead. Hey, John, thanks for taking my call.
SPEAKER 08 :
I really enjoy your show. So kind of a quick story and then a question for you. Regarding the people driving without insurances, A few weeks ago, my son and his wife and her family were driving in their car through Loveland, and they were going in front of the Tesla dealership, and there's a crowd of people out there protesting evil, you know, Elon Musk and all this kind of stuff. So this 18-year-old pulls out of the side street right in front of my son. He doesn't yield to the right-of-way, and my son ends up T-boning this 18-year-old. Come to find out, the kid doesn't have any insurance. Driving his sister's car. And they pull into a private parking lot, exchange information, you know, get his driver's license and all that stuff. So the officer shows up, gives him a citation for, you know, failing to yield right away. And then they give him a ticket and just let him drive off. And the officer said, well, we don't have any proof. You know, we didn't see the accident happen. And it's like, are you kidding me? I mean, there's five witnesses in my son's car, and my son even got out and talked to a few of the protesters, and they saw the whole thing. So he has their phone numbers and, you know, witness account. And I don't understand why the police wouldn't just impound that car right then and there. Too much hassle. What's to say he's not going to drive two blocks away and hit and kill somebody? And then the officer, oh yeah, I just responded to this guy five minutes ago and I let him go down the road again. And we know he didn't have insurance, but they continue to let him drive. It seems to me they should impound that vehicle right then and there.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm with you. I'm with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't get that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you 100%.
SPEAKER 08 :
What recourse would my son have at this point? I mean, he submitted a claim to his insurance company. And they had to pay their $1,000 deductible to get their car fixed. So now is it up to my son to go after him, like in a civil lawsuit?
SPEAKER 03 :
I would, and I've got to run because we're at the top of the hour, Steve. Either send me an email and explain all of that, and I can tell you what to do next. But I would call Kevin Flesch. He's one of our great sponsors. He's an attorney that specializes in that. 303-806-8886. Give him a call.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, sounds good, John. You bet.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks a lot. Thank you, Steve. Appreciate you very much, and Kevin will do all of that for you. Steve Horvath, thank you. Geno's Auto Service. Thank you. Always a joy to find Steve. By the way, just go to drive-radio.com or genosautoservice.com. Geno's, of course, with a J. Larry and Charlie, thank you guys very much. I appreciate it. We'll be back next week. Guys, have a great rest of your weekend. Enjoy the weather. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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