
In this episode, John covers lawn care, from mower repair tips to sharpening blades and everything else that you need to keep your mower and lawn care tools in tip top shape this summer. And even with all of this excitement, John somehow keeps his composure to teach you.
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And it is that time. Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. We appreciate it greatly. If you're listening to a replay of this program, thank you so much for that as well. Live program today, June the 7th. The year is rolling by. Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service. It'll be with me during Drive Radio with me as well. So good morning, Steve. Good morning. Thanks for taking some time off of your Saturday. I love it. Beautiful day today. For those of you that haven't been out and about, it's going to be a gorgeous day here in Colorado. After all of the rain and such that we've had, we'll talk a little bit about some of that today during this program as well. But Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer, Larry Unger, answering phones. If you have any questions at all for us, anything around the house, we're here to answer that. 303-477-5600. 303-477-5600. And then text line, of course, 307-282-22, 307-282-22. Feel free to either call or text. And I do my very best on the text end of things to even get those answered. Read them and answer them on air if it's something that's appropriate. Sometimes you guys will just send me information or different things that might be helping out. another listener which i appreciate as well so thank you for doing that but any questions at all please give us a call 303-477-5600 okay one thing i thought i'd talk about because i did this actually uh during this last week during a show and i or during one of my daily shows and i had several different people give me feedback on man that was really you know great information thanks for sharing that and it wasn't really a topic for that day because that's a different show than here and then i said well i'll talk more about it this saturday so I will. And that is in regards to mowers, mower height, blade sharpening, fertilization, weed control. And I got into a little bit of that on Rush to Reason earlier in the week. And I had several people, again, comment on, hey, thanks for the information. I actually had somebody that even worked for one of the large fertilizer companies reach out to me and say, hey, you know, I listen to you guys on a regular basis. And all the information you gave was spot on and keep up the great work. And I'm like, OK, well, that's a topic we'll get into a little bit more. this Saturday, plus, again, anything that you guys have for questions. So first things first, and with all of the moisture that we have had, and some of you have probably struggled to get the lawn even mowed with the rain that we have had, meaning that it's going to be really long. I know a lot. I look around at a lot of the lawns, and they're there along so given that we're now going to get into some of the heat of not necessarily you know super hot but it's going to start heating up in fact if i look at the weather here for aurora we're going to be about 80 today seven mid 70s tomorrow and monday and then we're up into the mid to upper 80s throughout the week and next weekend looks like around 90s or so low 90s next weekend so starting to get hotter meaning uh and with the longer daylight days your grass needs more water to stay healthy and all of that. That's where it gets a little bit difficult this time of the year. So one thing that I recommend and I tell people and I do myself is put your mower height on the top, the highest setting that you've got. So if you use a push mower, if you use a riding mower, whatever, they're all adjustable. And what I would suggest is you at least want to be cutting that grass at three and a half to four inches tall. In other words, as high as your mower will go. Now, some of you may say, man, that's really high and it's hardly doing anything. Well, then come down one notch. You kind of can gauge that. But the point being, keep it as long as you can. And especially now, with it being already really long, you'll find it easier to actually cut the lawn now with it being as tall. In fact, in some cases, depending on how long it is, you may want to go longer. uh if you want to go a little bit shorter than that setting i just mentioned you may want to you may want to mow it twice depending upon circumstances now i'm also a big one on this time of the year especially not bagging your clippings now really okay for a lot of people they like to bag clippings because it makes the lawn look better and all that it does but keep in mind you're you're actually pulling x amount of nutrients out that if you allow them to fall back in and decay you're and work themselves back down into the soil, it's exactly what it does. They will degrade, and they'll come back down into the soil and actually... Fill in some of those dead spots. And get nutrition and so on. So it actually will make your lawn thicker. That's why there's a lot of mulching mowers and things along those lines. Now, for some people, you still want to bag it. Fine, knock your socks off. But for a lot of you that have larger properties, larger yards and so on, you might even find bagging it is really kind of a pain in the neck. Well, if that's the case, then... Go ahead and mulch. Now, some of you say, well, I don't have a mulching mower. Well, you do. You do, actually. And for most mowers, if not all, I think there's probably now in the aftermarket sides of things, you can buy mulching blades. for just about any mower out there. And all you do is pull the bag off, let the flapper back down, it keeps the deck and everything all closed, put a mulching blade on it, and some of you would say, well, what's the difference between a regular blade and a mulching blade? A mulching, let me back up, a regular blade looks just like a regular blade. It's a steel blade. It's got a little bit of a lip so that it's actually sucking the grass up. It kind of creates some vacuum underneath the deck, if you would. Of course, it's got the blade side that's actually cutting the grass. I'll talk about sharpening blade or blades, plural, in a moment, but that's what a regular blade looks like. It's got a little bit of lift to the back of the blade. It's, of course, got the edge, the knife edge that it uses to cut the grass, and that's what it looks like. Now, a mulching blade, typically... If not always, a mulching blade will have a very high kick up and typically have notches in that kick-up area. So where that lift is on the back side of where you're actually having the blade that cuts the grass, it's hard to describe this on air, but where the blade is that cuts the grass, the back side of that normally just has a small lift that creates that airflow. It becomes a much larger lift, and they put big grooves in it, if you would, big slits in it, V almost, in each one of those. And in doing so, they're trying to lift that, They're lifting the grass even more so and making some turbulence to where that blade is cutting the grass more than one time. As it's falling back down, it's recutting it, mulching it up into smaller particles so that as that falls down, you don't have these big chunks of grass. So you can actually take a regular lawnmower and turn it into a mulching mower by putting a mulching blade on that mower. And all you need to do there is just go put in your type, go to the Internet, Amazon, wherever, put in your type of mower so i've got up you know toro 21 inch blah blah blah model number mulching blade you'll find a list of people that make mulching blades for that particular mower you won't just find one option you'll find half a dozen options of people that make blades and this is something to remember too as your As you continue to sharpen the blades on your mower, which I'll talk about the proper way to do that here in a moment, keep in mind that that blade is degrading as time goes by. So you're only going to run, if you're sharpening things correctly and doing it right, you're only going to run a blade a couple of seasons anyways and have to replace it because as that blade starts to wear down, you need to replace it for it to work effectively. So in this case, you might even find yourself, well, hey, I need a blade anyway. So if that's the case, buy a mulching blade and be done with it. Now, here's the other thing. You can still bag with a mulching blade. It won't work quite as well because the vacuum inside of the deck is a little bit different. So it won't work quite as well as what it would with the other blade. But can you still, you know, use the bag if you have to in a situation where, hey, I'm trying to, you know, I don't want to change my blade out this fall. I'm going to go and suck my leaves and stuff up. Will it bag some of that? Sure. You're still creating enough vacuum. It'll go out the the opening that's in the backside of it, still throw it into the bag. So you're still able to do that with a mulching blade. But I think a lot of people miss out and end up applying, A, more fertilizer, more water, and wonder, well, why does the neighbor's lawn look better than mine? Well, some of this is some of the technique that I'm talking about right now in how you take care of the grass in the first place. Make sense, Steve?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. I've got all sorts of ideas. But I did the other day at Home Depot or whatever, I bought a sharpener and a little kit. It had a little stone in it, and then it did have a balancer on it, too. A key.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's key.
SPEAKER 11 :
That was kind of an interesting thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm glad you mentioned that because most people don't realize that those blades need balance. Now, you can do that one of two ways. So first things first, as you go to sharpen the blade, A, take it off. So you want to unbolt it from the bottom of the deck. Yeah, in some cases you can try to sharpen them, but it's a pain. Just take the blade off, get it out on the bench in a vise, and really do it properly. Eye protection. All of those things you need to have. Sometimes that nut's a left-hand thread. That's right. So pay attention to that. Good point, Steve.
SPEAKER 11 :
It does sometimes, it says on the blade or somewhere in there, I think, when you're underneath.
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Yeah, good point. Be careful. I'm glad you mentioned that. Yeah, they're not all right-hand threads. So double-check to see what kind of a nut, you know, what kind of threads you have on your shaft coming out of the motor or out of the... In some cases, you've got a riding mower, the mechanism that runs the deck, the transmission is what they call that that's running the blades. In some cases, you may have two blades or three blades depending upon how wide of a mower you have and so on. Most people, unless you get above a 48-inch deck, are probably running two blades on a 48, so that's typically how that works. So Steve mentioned something very important. A, when it goes to sharpening a blade, make sure you have all the correct angles and you're doing that right and so on. And there's lots of tutorials all over YouTube on how to sharpen blades. There's even kits now that will even help you keep the angle straight. I see them listed on social media constantly where it even helps you keep, if you're somebody that doesn't really quite understand how to keep the angle of the grinder straight and all of that, you're not somebody that's used to doing that. buy one of those kits that actually help you keep all of that straight because the key is there you want that blade to be you know sharpened at the right angle to cut properly and you you want i don't know what the degree angle is i want to say it's probably about a 30 degree angle i say 30 sounds about pretty close when you when you yeah yeah and you're eyeballing it so you follow the follow the angle the blade came with to begin with. And that's where, if you're looking at a blade thinking, man, I can't even tell what this was, then put new blades on it. I mean, if you're to that point, that's right, they're not that expensive. A single blade, quite honestly, even a mulching blade won't cost you, I'm not exaggerating, $18, $20, $25. I mean, they're just not that expensive, folks. They really aren't. So that... on top of that so not only is getting that angle correct but steve mentioned something that was very important and that is the balance of the blade and some of you would say why why does that matter as you're sharpening the blade you may find that you've had to maybe grind one side of that blade a little more than the other due to it hitting a rock or a piece of debris in the grass or whatever when you were mowing it And in doing so, you may be taking more metal off of one side versus the other. And when you do that, you're throwing the balance of the blade off, meaning you've got to go back to the other side and take the equal amount of material off of it or you end up with a blade that's out of balance and then you could have bearing issues and it vibrates and it just doesn't cut as well as it should. And there's all sorts of ways to do that. And in Steve's case, he bought a little balance tool and they make them that way. They work fine. Here's a poor man's way of doing it, though, by the way. It's real simple. Take a small nail, like a finish-type nail, and just pound that into the edge of your whatever. Two by four, you can do it that way. If you have a wooden bench, just go ahead and put that nail into the side of the bench. And all you have to do is make sure that the inside hole of the blade is nice and clean. And then all you do is put the blade onto that nail and kind of spin it around. And if it wants to go one direction or the other, you know it's out of balance. Oh.
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It's kind of like hanging a picture.
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Exactly. So if you get that blade balanced, you should be able to rotate it around, and it won't want to find any other place than where you've positioned it because it's weighted equally on both ends of the blade. So that's kind of a poor man's way of looking at the balance on a blade. There's all sorts of other tools they make now and so on, but that's an easy way to do it. If you don't have any fancy tools and you're just doing a grinder like I do and you're wanting to know if it's balanced, you can even just take a nail and mount it into the vice and then put the blade – on top of the nail and determine whether or not you're you're balanced or not that way also so that that one's not that difficult to figure out and you'll know right away whether you've got a heavy side or a light you know you'll know which side's the heavy side and that's the side you need to take a little bit more material off of until you get the balance back on the blade so something to remember and That's a bit of a hard thing to do. I think if you're off balance, it might be a throwaway thing. Well, if it's that far off, throw it away, put new blades on it. And this is just practice. I can't tell you any other way to do this other than it's just practice, trial and error. It's not that hard to do. And one other trick. that I would tell you is when it comes to sharpening the blades, don't use a bench grinder or anything like that. Get a regular, we call them just a small portable six-inch, you know, they're not even six-inch, four-inch grinders. You know, get yourself a portable four-inch grinder. They make them now that are cordless, corded, however you want to do that. And then what I use to sharpen blades, because I think it works best, is they make a paddle wheel, they call it. It's not an actual stone. It's a paddle wheel, and it actually has... individual little pieces of sandpaper that are all glued together, and it looks like a paddle, and you'll find yourself able to keep that straighter, not have it bounce around as much, and do a better job of actually sharpening the blades than if you use an actual hard wheel on that. So there's another little trick. Use a paddle wheel on a 4-inch grinder, and you'll find yourself sharpening those blades a little easier if you do it that way. Joe, what's going on?
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Go ahead, Steve.
SPEAKER 08 :
30 degrees. 30 degrees. There you go. All right, 30 degrees.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hey, John, two things. One, I assume you've already talked that you don't want to put a knife edge in those blades. You've already talked about that, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I haven't even gotten to that point. And like I said, this is trial and error for folks. The biggest thing is try to match. If you get a new set of blades, just match the way the blades come from the factory already sharpened. What do you mean by knife edge, though?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, you mean like you'd put on a chef's knife, I mean a really, really fine knife.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you're not doing that. You're just using a grinder and just making sure you get all the burrs off of it and call it good. And we're not splitting hairs with it. Yeah, no, this thing is spinning fast enough it doesn't matter.
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Yeah, most of them I think that you only want to go down to about the thickness of a dime, you know, which is fine. But that's not the reason I call on a multi-blade deck. And I've seen people start to make this mistake. You want to make sure that the blades are at different angles. I mean, I've seen one guy, he had a two-blade mower. He was putting both blades back on oriented 12 to 6. And, of course, when they turned, they were going to interfere. So, you know, I always – and, you know, is there a little tiny gap there? But if you pick up a stone, you can get those two blades binding. So I always like to orient the blades – so that they're not passing each other within a hair's breadth of each other. I don't know what your feeling is, but... On my deck, I don't have any choice.
SPEAKER 08 :
The blades only go on... I mean, if you put the left blade on the left side, the right blade on the right side, there is no options. Mine are keyed in a way that you can't screw it up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, because on my deck, I've just got a...
SPEAKER 08 :
uh a groove spindle and you can you can put that blade back on any orientation yeah mine mine are mine are made in kind of uh uh how do i want to say this uh joe like a d on each end of the of the shaft coming out of the motor and the blades match that d so you you know it's it's made in such a way that even if you flipped it 180 degrees it's still on the same way and you're not changing it only goes on the shaft one way is my point i can't change it
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I've got a John Deere now, and it's just got a, you know, it's a three-blade deck. It's a 54-inch deck, and it's just a threaded spindle, and you can put those blades back on any orientation you want.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, in that case, I would highly suggest what people do is take a picture of those before you pull anything apart so you can go right back together the same way.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and in Colorado, I think I had a Husqvarna, and the Husqvarna was the same way. It was a three-blade, and again, it was just a... I don't want to say thread, it was just a groove spindle, and you could put those blades back on any orientation you want. So, John, I think yours is probably not the norm, because I've also helped other people do it. I've never seen one that wasn't just a groove spindle that gave you any of the latitude you want. So if you're one of those people, if you don't already have a picture, as John suggested, uh... just make sure it yeah you know those things are hearing that so that would be a disaster yeah so again if you don't have a picture something to go by just make sure when you put in there You know, make sure that there are different angles and just.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the idea there being you want to, quote unquote, clock them in the way to do that. For those of you that maybe to your point, Joe, you pulled it apart. You didn't take pictures on the front side. You would want to clock those to where one blade is in the middle of the pattern of the other blade, not blade to blade. I didn't realize they went that close. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Kind of like a helicopter. Yeah, exactly. You're creating that kind of order. Like a helicopter. Exactly. That's exactly a good way to look at it, Steve. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so that's just my two cents for today, guys.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks for saying that, Joe, because I would have missed that, because in my particular case, and I don't know that I've ever worked on, I mean, all the stuff I've ever done is commercial, so it may be the difference between the residential side and the commercial side, because on the commercial side, you don't get an option. They go on one way, one way only, and that's it. There's no options.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, and again, I've probably had three myself, John. I've helped another neighbor with his, and I've never seen them the way you've described on a residential mower deck. It's just always you can put them on any orientation you want.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and that would make sense because the cost of doing that versus what they do on the commercial side would be less, so that would make total sense, Joe. You could do the residential side a little cheaper by not making that spindle the way mine is.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right, exactly. All right.
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Yeah, totally. That was my only contribution for today, guys. Makes total sense. No, appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah, so, yeah, if you've got a multi-blade deck, in Joe's case, he's got three. Some of you may find one where there's two. Yeah, you want to, quote, unquote, clock those to where you're not going to have any interference when those things start to spin. And then to Steve's point. Some mowers, be careful. Sometimes they'll have right-hand threads, left-hand threads. It just depends on how that particular mower has been made, how they manufactured it, and so on. So double-check that. And by the way, on the balance thing, going back to that really quick. You'll know when it's not balanced right. You'll feel the mower, and this is where, especially on a small mower, 21-inch, where the blade is connected to the crankshaft of the engine. In those cases, in particular, you want to make sure they're balanced well, because keep in mind, all of that unbalance is putting undue wear and tear on the crankshaft. of the engine and that's where you can end up with other problems even engine wise by having an out of balance blade so if you've got a a different system where like in joe's case there's a belt system that's running some transmissions on the mower blade assembly you know the gears that run the mowers and so on a little different scenario they're not i mean still important but probably not as important as it is believe it or not on the smaller mower. So I'll come back. I've got more to talk about on fertilizer and things along those lines. Questions, 303-477-5600. This is Fix-It Radio. Fix-It Radio, by the way, is fixitradio.com. So Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath from Geno's Auto Service with me this hour as well. Jeff in Montana, you're up. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, good morning, all. I have a Craftsman three-blade deck. I think it's 54-inch.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, makes sense.
SPEAKER 04 :
Got it nine years ago, I think, and... I've been underneath there quite a few times, and my blades do not interfere in any way. It's all belt-driven, so it wouldn't matter if you tried to orient them so that they're not interfering, that it would drift over time because of the belt, so they don't stay in one. They're not keyed to anything to keep them in a certain location. I see what you're saying.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, okay. So in other words, they can change their position. So they must not ever interfere no matter what. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
because the belt could slip. The center blade goes forward, and then the other two side blades are a little bit back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they kind of crouch in. If they were in line, they would interfere, but because they're staggered like that, they don't interfere, but they cover the whole path. That's a lot of grass, though.
SPEAKER 11 :
54 inches, that's a lot of grass to cut.
SPEAKER 04 :
About an acre and a half. I was curious.
SPEAKER 08 :
I get it, Jeff. I get it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Even then, it's a multi-hour process.
SPEAKER 08 :
The trimming is the worst part.
SPEAKER 04 :
My question is on that deck maintenance. Being a large deck like that and with the belt, you have to release the tension on the belt, get down on the side and get the belt off and then
SPEAKER 08 :
unfasten the deck and drop it and then drive the mower away or slide it up from the side and then you know after a certain age this maintenance tends to get a bit weird yeah no it doesn't and they do make and for those of you listening that have you know tractors or things like that there are now jeff and you might want to look into this there is actually make sure it's hard to describe on air But there are now devices made whereby it's like a lever type. It's on wheels. It's kind of a lever type of a mechanism where you can put that under the front axle of the tractor, push down on it. It raises the whole front of the tractor up, giving you access to what's underneath it. So if you want to wash it out and all of that, you're not sliding the deck out or anything. You're literally just lifting the whole front of the mower up with this big lever device. Kind of like the NASCAR guys do. That's exactly right. Think of it like a jack, Jeff, only it's all done mechanically where you just get on the end of it and raise it up. And because most of the weight is distributed on the mower pretty correctly, once you get it raising in the front, it'll just keep on going up and then gives you access to the deck that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, actually, Harbor Freight had a sale on those. It was called the ATV lifts, I think. Oh, really? ATV and mower lifts. Yeah. Yeah. So you can do that with the small ATVs as well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I got one of those, and I get about a 30-inch lift on it, and it helps. But you still have to get down on a creeper and kind of get underneath there, have problems with grass accumulating there. I had maybe at one point up to two inches of grass inside of it. It was a real pain. So I was just wondering if you had any hints on easier ways Easier, more maintenance for those of us who are getting up in years a bit and need a little... Need a little help dealing with that.
SPEAKER 08 :
If it were me, I would do one of two things. Either have a really good jacking system like we're talking about, floor jack. In some cases, you can even build yourself a little bit of a car ramp where you're driving the front end up on the mower that gives you access. Because I'm also one, Jeff, to where I think things mow better if you can get underneath that deck and power wash it after every mow. And I know that sounds like a hassle to a lot of people, but if you can hose all of that down, you know, debris and junk, especially now here in Colorado, we're going to be really wet. That grass is going to be sticking underneath there, and people will talk about you can put wax and PAM and all this other stuff underneath there. None of that does anything at the end of the day. It'll all come off pretty quickly anyway, so you're just going to have to get the grass out of it. But I'm a big one on washing that deck after every time so it doesn't build up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, Craftsman did a pretty nifty thing on this. They put two little ports in. to hook up a garden hose on either side so you can just put it on there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and do you start to mower and run it with it kind of pumping in like that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, and definitely. And after several years of doing it the wrong way, I realized that, oh, hey, if you lower that mower deck all the way down when you're washing it like that, the water stays inside and it does a lot better too. Great idea.
SPEAKER 08 :
So does it give like a swirl effect? I mean, how well does it do at cleaning all that out, Jeff?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because what you do is you hook up the water, and then you pull out the little knob that activates the power takeoff, activates the blades, so you're acting like you're mowing the lawn, but just swishing the water around inside.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's kind of like a dishwasher in a way. Yeah, like a washing machine. Yeah. Yeah, more of a washer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah, so... Okay. And it does okay with that. I just... It's... And mulching mowers are designed, as you said, to keep the grass up there. So with all the damp grass, it's going to want to pack that. You are exactly right, Jeff.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Yes, yes, yes. Absolutely. And by the way, everything we're talking about, even for those of you that have just a regular 21-inch push mower, be careful which way you tip that up because you could lose fuel or oil. So know which way to tip the mower up. But same thing, Jeff. You'd want to wash those out just as well, just like you're doing with yours.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, and so this time of year is probably good to, as you said, make sure you clean it after every use just to make sure you don't get that grass piling up inside of there. And then one, you didn't talk about this, and it's pretty difficult with the safety features on mowers now, but please do not defeat a push mower or any other mower. Don't defeat any of the safety devices that cause the blade to stop spinning. My son years ago, 30 years ago, probably, was a medic and had to go to Haiti. And he can't remember how many different times patients came in with fingers missing because they didn't have any safety devices. And they thought they could just pick the mower up to use it as a trimmer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, geez.
SPEAKER 04 :
No. Yeah. No. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, you know. Accidents happen, so please, you know, the safety features are there for a reason. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, and, excuse me, others are texting in, too, that, yeah, depending upon your mower deck and its configuration and so on, some of them won't make, to your point, Jeff, won't make a hill of beans, but a difference how you put the mower together. blades on because they could actually change position much like what you're saying in other cases like in my mower there's only one way they'll go on they they will interfere so they're clocked specifically but again each mower is going to be a little bit different along those lines so you you should know what you have and and this is another tip for everybody if you don't Trust me, we now live in a day and age where you can go to the manufacturer's website, you can go to YouTube, you can find something on your particular mower, I don't care how new or old it is, that will tell you some of the things that we're now talking about and walk you through it. So if you're not familiar with your own mower and how your blades come on and off, how you should be sharpening and so on, then go look this stuff up specifically for your mower, because I will say this, and Jeff, you know this as well, and so does Steve, there are far too many makes and models and types and so on for me to be specific any way shape or form when it comes to mowers because jeff as you know it all depends on who made it what country it came from i can go down the list they are not equal at all and uh one thing in terms of uh
SPEAKER 04 :
organization i used to have a file cabinet drawer drawers full of manuals and things and i don't keep paper copies anymore i use electronic copies i just find them on the internet and download them keep them on my computer back them up and if i want to do maintenance on say like an oil change i just did an oil change and so i wanted to make sure i was doing it right and looked it up and You can do a keyword search. You don't have to look through the whole manual to figure out what oil change is. You just put in oil or oil change, and you can find it. So I've done that for kitchen appliances, all sorts of different things. So I'm not a paperless guy anymore. I like to live in – I don't need that stuff, and it's going to be one less thing for my kids to get rid of. Yeah. Sometime in the very, very distant future when I pass. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Again, good to know, and this is to your point, Jeff. My advice is I do the same thing you do, Jeff. If you've got a particular item, piece of equipment that you're working on maintaining, doing something with on a routine basis, then, yeah, download. All the manuals are typically online from whatever that manufacturer is, and even if it's super old, Jeff, you can still typically go out on the Internet and find the same manual somewhere. It's not that hard. Get those things downloaded. have the ability to have those at your fingertips and know exactly what you're working on and what needs to be done. And this comes down, Jeff, everything to what type of oil does it take, how much, what type of other maintenance should you be doing at what intervals, and so on and so forth. No different than your car, other than when it comes to this type of equipment, it's more so because you're not mowing lawns with your car, two totally different things. And the other disadvantage that I will tell you when it comes to small vehicles
SPEAKER 04 :
engine small equipment end of things as i said earlier nothing's universal i mean literally you can go from one brand to another to another to another and all of them being different in how they work yeah i don't know how many different black crafts for lawnmowers are out there look superficially the same but they they are all different different mower deck sizes belt sizes all sorts of things that's right Pretty much standard on the Kohler engines, I think.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and some of the engine stuff will get standardized. But even then, sometimes Kohler will build something for one company that is different than another company. Even though they may look the same, they are distinctly different. And trust me, I live in that world far too often. And what you might think is universal, for some of you out there listening, it's not. Trust me, it's not. It's universal to you, but not to every other mower that's out there.
SPEAKER 11 :
Even homes are the same way. It drives me nuts. Absolutely. We come out of the automotive industry, and we see there's nothing standard on a home.
SPEAKER 08 :
There's no consistency. No. The safety thing on the automotive side of it, for all of you listening, Jeff, you know this as well. has created some consistency in the automotive thing to where certain things are just pretty standard from car to car to car, no matter where they've come from. On this end of things, we're talking small equipment, engines, things like that. Yeah, it's a crapshoot. There is no consistency at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, I guess I'm just going to have to live with the 30-inch lift that I get out of this ATV mower jack. And it does work really well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good.
SPEAKER 04 :
You pump it up, and it has actually the safety stops to allow you to not have it crash down on you. I still put – not jacks, but what do you call them – The jack stands. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a good idea, too. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what, Jeff?
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you really quick for mentioning that. For any of you that are working on anything, I don't care what it is, car especially, but even some of this type of equipment where, you know, if it falls on you, it might not kill you, but you sure wouldn't want it to fall on you. It wouldn't be very comfortable, and depending upon who's around to help, it may not be a good situation. By all means, put jack stands under this stuff when you're working on it anyway. I don't care what you use to lift it up. Put a jack stand under it.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would venture to say that more people get hurt at home than out on the road driving and off ladders doing things. Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. Correlated to Murphy's Law is that anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a matter of time.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a great point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Usually it's the very worst time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great point. Jeff, thank you. Those are great tips. Appreciate that. Sure. All right, have a good one. We'll take a quick break. We'll come right back. Again, text us any thoughts or ideas or questions, 307-200-8222. And you can also call us directly, as Jeff just did, 303-477-5600. Myself and Steve will be right back here on Fix It Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Welcome, Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Steve Horvath, Geno's Auto Service. And as always, if you have a question even during the week and you want to ask me something that we're not on air for or even if this is a replay show and you've got a question for us, you can always text us and I'll do my best to answer that fairly quickly. So 307-200-8222. 307-200-8222. All right, somebody said here that, I have a Craftsman mower, that the deck belt for the blades either keeps stretching or falling off the pulleys. Recently purchased a new belt, put it on. It's a bit smaller. Made sure that maybe that that was the problem. I do have to engage and disengage the blades every time I want to pick up because of the safety. Yep, that's exactly right. Have you any advice on how to keep the belt on other than all of the little shields to keep it on that keep it from falling off? Ooh, that is a great question. I think the first thing I would look at is do you have any pulley problems? As even in the automotive world, sometimes the pulleys themselves can wear and not keep the belt in like it should. Also make sure you don't have any damage to a pulley, which I know this particular texter, it's Dawn. Dawn, you probably have already done that, so that's probably not an issue.
SPEAKER 11 :
And to make sure I guess the, you know, you haven't lost the angle. One of the pulleys could be facing a little bit off.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a good point, too, Steve. In fact, in the automotive world, and they still make them, there's little laser devices that you can use to line up to make sure that all the pulleys are straight. Now, you could do that on your own with just a laser pointer. and and put put in the groove tape it to the groove exactly tape it in there and then make sure that you're lining up with all of your other pulleys correctly to steve's point make sure we don't have anything canted something hasn't gotten bent or something weird along those lines yeah it doesn't take much to throw those off so that's one of those and other than that don um man i i don't know that's a great question obviously make sure they're spring freely and
SPEAKER 11 :
Or during, have you lost one of those guides? You know, like sometimes they've rattled off, you know, like a guide that keeps it from. Could be that as well. Keeping it, you know, maybe there's one missing. You don't know because you don't eat there every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Anyways. Let me continue on. Sorry, I'm answering text messages as we're talking and all that as well. All right, really quick, fertilizer. I talked about this during the week, and one of the things I wanted to talk about today, and I had a question that came in earlier in the week on what type of fertilizer do you use and all that sort of stuff. And this is personal preference and nothing against the Scotts brand. I actually had a gentleman that listens to the program that worked for Scotts, and we were talking back and forth a little bit this week. And he even said himself that, you know, for a lot of you that are do-it-yourselfers, you want the weed and feed, and you're trying to control weeds and do the fertilizing all at the same time, knock your socks off. If you have a little bit larger property, though, some of you that have been texting in, you know, Jeff just texted in, has an acre. Some of you have a little bit larger properties. And it was funny, even the Scots guy said the same thing. When you get larger properties like that and you're trying to be a little bit more cost effective, you're going to want to use a different product than theirs because of the cost. Okay. And where I'm going with that is some of you live near and or have dealings with co-ops. A lot of times your co-op will have a fertilizer that is even blended for the particular area that we're in. The other great fertilizer that I've used for years and years at different times is Rich Lawn Turf Food. It's a local company, and you can't buy that typically at your big box stores. Typically, Rich Lawn, you're going to buy at your lawn and garden centers. Okay. Find a lawn and garden center near you or go to Rich Lawn Turf Foods website. Find where there's a particular location near you. I like their product. It's time-released. Not all of them are. That's one of the things you have to look at as well. Some fertilizers have a time-release capability to it. Others, the minute you put it down, water it in, the fertilizer is there. on i do know for a fact that richelon is time released and you can tell by looking at the fertilizer because it'll have like a coating on if you put your hand down in and kind of look at what you're feeling some of the and i don't know the chemical makeup kind of like when you take a tylenol you know yeah i can't tell you the chemical makeup of each individual little little uh Particle. Particle that's coming out of the granule. That's a good way to say it, Steve. But some of them will be coated. And I don't know which one they're coating. Probably the nitrogen is probably getting coated because that's the one that, if you're not careful, can burn the lawn and so on. And so it's probably the nitrogen particle that they're actually coating and time-releasing because as time goes by – because in our area, you're going to have iron. You're going to have nitrogen. You're going to have several different things. And one of the things that I like about Richland Turf Food for our area, again, is it's blended – for our particular area, our climate, our watering, and so on. And typical application, and this is where I may differ with some others, if you're doing it correctly, you're using the right kind of fertilizer, you're using time release, you should be able to go about six weeks or so, maybe even eight weeks in between fertilizations. It depends on, in a lot of cases, how much water we've had. So all the moisture we've had of late, it needs fertilized right now. I don't care when you fertilize. We've had so much moisture that right now, this weekend or next, it's due to be fertilized. And the key to that is if you get good fertilization down and good nutrients into it, you'll use less water. So some people think, well, man, it's going to be getting hot. Why would I fertilize now? Because you want to feed, just like us, You want to feed your body. You want to feed your grass. The more hydrated and healthy you are, the better you can go climb a 14er. Well, your grass is no different. The more hydrated and fed it is. And the other thing about it is the more you keep it fed, the more it does at keeping weeds and other things out of it as well. You'll always notice that typically those crab grasses and weeds and things like that, they will grow in from the edges only. or in areas where it's thinner. If you get a really good, nice, thick, lush lawn, you might get a dandelion here or there in the middle, but typically you're not going to get a lot of other things that are growing up in that because the lawn itself, the bluegrass, is healthy enough that it kind of crowds out some of those weeds and so on. Now, as far as what chemicals to use to kill weeds and so on, this is personal preference. Everybody's got their own way of doing it. Some people like just buying off-the-shelf chemicals. Others, you've got some concoction you make at home. I've never been the concoction guy. I'll say it straight up. I use Roundup in the rocks and other areas. It's easy. I buy the concentrate, mix it up, put it in a backpack sprayer, spray it, off you go. And then I use the Weed Be Gone product. Roundup has another product that's similar you can't use Roundup in the grass you have to use a different type of chemical in the grass so you don't kill the grass Roundup will kill the grass and the weed and everything around it which in some cases is great but in the grass for dandelions and so on thistles even that might grow up in the grass you want to use a product that won't kill the bluegrass but it will actually kill that thistle or dandelion and that's where the The Weed Be Gone product comes in. Now, Weed Be Gone will also kill things in the rocks and so on, so you can use it for that. But typically, it's a little bit more expensive, and the Roundup is a little bit cheaper. So typically, you're going to use a dual product, one in the grass, one out of the grass. And that's where that Weed and Feed product, by the way, that Scott's and others make. that scott's product has some of that chemical built into the fertilizer so as you're putting it down it's keeping dandelions and other things out by its nature it's the way it's chemically made and that's how that side of it works so fertilization really key and if you haven't done it um It's been hard to have done it here recently just with all the rain and everything we've had. I can tell you that if you have an opportunity today or tomorrow to fertilize your grass, you should. I don't care if you fertilized it four or five weeks ago. With all of the moisture we've had, I read something yesterday, and I believe it's true. I need to follow up on this. But we have had more rain from May 1st till now. We've had double the rain Seattle has had. Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Really.
SPEAKER 08 :
Think about that. So we've had twice as much rain as the northwest because of all of the storms and things that we've had roll through. Now, it looks like we're in a pretty good dry spell. Keep in mind, we haven't gotten into the monsoon end of things, which is in later July, typically. But right now we have had a lot of moisture, which is great. Everything you look out here from the studio west and it's just lush and green and the golf courses are great and the trees look great and so on and everything. Right now, if you don't have a green lawn, you've either not fed it well enough or you've got some disease or something along those lines. Because right now, every lawn out there, regardless of where your sprinklers are at or even at, you should be nice and green right now just with all the moisture that we've had. But your grass also needs fed right now. Now, some people have had questions in the last couple of weeks on, hey, I've got a lot of crabgrass. How do I get rid of that? Now? Now? And I'm saying now because if you wait longer, crabgrass is really hard to kill later in the year you get. So if you're going to kill crabgrass, go buy a crabgrass killer, get it killed now. Because the longer you wait, the harder it is to get it killed. It's one of those things that you want to catch early in the year. And frankly, if not, manage it the best you can and try to kill it again next year. So if you don't get it killed right now, I hate to say this, but it'll be tough to get rid of it because you just can't. It's one of those... types of weed. I guess you could say that's what crabgrass is, is a weed. And the way it grows and so on, you've got to kill it early in the year. The longer you wait, the harder it is to kill. And in some cases, that's where you're liable to be just putting Roundup on it, killing it that way, digging it out, replanting it, and off you go. And that's about the only way in some cases you can get rid of crabgrass. And again, it's one of those things where it typically starts on the edges and it will creep in. And somebody also asked me at times, where does all this stuff come from? It's blowing around. It comes from the neighbors. It comes from a field nearby. I mean, birds carry things around. I mean, you end up with different things in your lawn. You may have one of the most pristine lawns on the block, and all of a sudden a weed pops up, and you're like, where did that come from? Because of what I just said. That stuff can float in from any number of things. Animals can track it in. You name it. Now, one other thing, too, that... That I'm really big on. And for some of you that are are listening, you you may think I'm a freak, but because I am, if you have your lawn cut by a professional service or even somebody that comes around and goes from lawn to lawn to lawn, if it were me. I would be requiring that person to wash the wheels or put some Lysol on those tires before doing your lawn. Otherwise, you're liable to pick up whatever the last lawn just had. If the last lawn had some sort of fungus or something weird on that lawn, keep in mind it's now on the tires of that lawnmower that was just on that previous lawn. And as they now roll that off the trailer and roll out onto your grass, guess what? All of what was on the previous lawn is now going to be on your lawn. So I would require, if it were me, that particular service to be using a Lysol or washing it or something along those lines to make sure that those tires are good and clean before they go on your grass. Wow. I never thought of it. It happens at golf courses all the time. That's exactly right. Somebody's shoes have something and it gets on the greens and ruins the green. So that's why mowing your lawn, especially if you guys have anybody that comes by and does your service, could be just a kid that goes door to door. You should be, if you want to, make sure you've got your own can of Lysol kicking around even that, hey, kid, before you actually mow my lawn, will you make sure that you put this on all of the the wheels and on all the tires and surfaces before you go rolling on my grass. And keep in mind that you're not washing the deck in between and all that, but at least getting that main contact area that has been running on everybody else's grass.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sure, and it's going to push it into the grass where it's going to grow the best. Exactly. Actually, you'd be helping the kid, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Give him a can of Lysol. You'd say, hey, you're doing a good service. That's right. You're teaching him something that he probably doesn't know. And what I just said, by the way, you would be surprised how many commercial lawn services don't know what i just said they've never thought about it they don't even it's not in their wheelhouse they just go from you know lawn to lawn to lawn and away they go and if they end up with some sort of a disease in one particular area they deal with it but they don't understand what i just said either because most people don't think about what i just said it doesn't cross their that just doesn't come into their wheelhouse so and I don't know why. To me, some of this is just common sense. But, yeah, if you've got a lawn service and they're doing anything at all for you, and, by the way, that includes even there's lawn services that will do everything from aeration. They'll come by and do other things to your lawn, different things along those lines. Make sure that they are, especially if you're a freak about your lawn, make sure that they are disinfecting. That's probably what I should be saying, disinfecting with Lysol or something along those lines. and again it can be the spray can you can get your own spray bottle of lysol and mix it up and have it ready to go however you want to do that and it's also why i like washing the mower off on your own even if your mower is never going anywhere else but just washing your mower after every cutting getting the deck good and clean getting the wheels good and clean a it makes the lawnmower look a lot better and you don't have crap all over it and all that i mean it just makes things more serviceable and all that's like washing your car after a heavy rain or snowstorm or something to that effect but your lawnmower same way i have seen mowers where you know they um they don't take care of things and you're literally taking a putty knife to the deck to scrape all of the grass and everything off and again an easy way to take care of that is just wash it after each mowing and some of you from the sounds of it you have different mowers where they may even aid you in that by putting some ports in the deck and so on. But yeah, that's one of those things. And one thing I didn't talk about today, which is also important, I'm one of these where every time you go to mow, check the oil. Check the oil in the mower. It takes 10 seconds, 15 seconds maybe. Pull the stick. Does it have oil in it? What does it look like? Is it all black? Does it still look good? Hopefully you've already changed the oil. And on a push mower, by the way, the easiest way to change oil, and this is simple, get a pan. And don't worry about pulling the drain plug because that's a big waste. Make sure it's empty of fuel, which typically as you go into the beginning of the year, it will be empty of fuel. But make sure it's empty of fuel. Take your pan, take the dipstick out, and just tip the mower upside down and let all the oil run out the dipstick area. Don't take the plug out and drain it and go through all that mess. Just tip the mower upside down, drain all the oil out that way, put fresh oil in it. Unless it's a bigger engine, they won't have oil filters, so all you're doing is taking oil out, putting oil back in. And on small engines, my oil of choice is Mobil One 1030. Unless your engine says something else that's specific to that particular engine or mower, 1030 synthetic, doesn't have to be mobile one, but 1030 synthetic is what I've been using for years and years and years with absolutely no problems, and that's the way I would do all small engine work. So, guys, that's it for today. Any questions, again, send me a text message, 307-200-8222. Go to the website, fixitradio.com. This is Fix It Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 05 :
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Join John and Bill as they candidly discuss the misconceptions about preparedness culture, tackling stereotypes tied to self-sufficiency. They explore the relevance of changing perspectives about being 'prepared' and how this mindset applies across all life facets. From practical self-defense scenarios to backup power for emergencies, gain insights on integrating preparedness into your lifestyle without the usual stigma.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is Ready Radio, preparing you to be ready for anything, now. Here's your survival guide for Ready Radio, John Rush. All right, welcome. Ready Radio, KLZ 560, live program today, June the 6th. June the 6th, so thanks for joining us today. We appreciate it very much. If you're listening to a replay show, you know what day we recorded this on. Bill Anderson joining me, as he typically does. Bill, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm doing okay. It's raining again here in Elizabeth. I tell you, it's crazy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was reading something this morning. I didn't verify this. You see a lot of different things out on the Internet and so on, and I didn't verify this. But I read that we've had double the rain of Seattle since May.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. I read that this morning as well, too. Yeah, in fact, you know, it looked like it snowed at my house last night with the hail again. It's just like, holy cow. I don't know. You know, it fits right into the theme of this program, right? Because life is so unpredictable. That's right. You know, you don't know if you're going to have a hot season, a cool season, a wet season. You know, and we did all this garden prep stuff, and it's like I'm just watching it, like, all get washed out. And I'm like, oh, man, you know, okay, well, plan B, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and as you said a moment ago, we could have all of those in one season, by the way. It could be cool and rainy, hot, tornadoes, hail. I mean, Bill, it's Colorado. We could have anything.
SPEAKER 09 :
We could have anything. You know, I once had an old electrician tell me one time, he says, hey, be really good at plan A. but, you know, be exceptionally well at plan B. You know, we all try plan A, and we hope that plan A works, right? I mean, that's the idea, but, you know, I mean, I don't know about you, but Murphy seems to show up a lot anymore, and it's like, okay, well, now let's adjust.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're right. I think that, I mean, here with what I do in this seat, folks don't recognize it or see it because things that go on behind the scenes, you know, guests don't show on time, or they can't show up at all, or other technical snafus might happen, or he might have a software issue or or or bill i can go down the list of things that happen and and i think your other electrician friend is very correct and and frankly there are there are those out there that get so structured in this world by the way you can't be because things can happen and you have to be prepared for that and ready to roll no matter what and that that can apply to every area of life by the way should apply to every area of life
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's actually a really good thing, and it fits right in with what we talk about on a weekly basis here of, hey, we plan, we think we have an idea of what's going to happen, but shoot, you never know who's going to jump on the TV. get into a quarrel with whoever. The whole economy tanks and shifts and stock market changes all based on silly childness, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, and frankly, I think Wall Street itself can be very childish along those lines as well. Those guys are a bunch of knuckleheads sometimes. Also, don't get me started on them because most of them don't understand reality any more than the folks that are causing some of those things you just mentioned. So I have my own... Most people know my feelings on that. I don't have a lot of respect for Wall Street and the traitors that are there. I'll just say it that way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you've just got to understand this. They have an agenda, and they make their money, as most things in life, they make their money on 90% of the maybe uneducated or the unknowing, we'll just call it, of those traitors. that get in the market, try to do stuff, they're really driving it, right? It's the whole 80-20 idea of life, right? It's like they're driving everything, and those guys are making their money on the backs of the people who are doing the investing and things like that. I don't know if I'm stating it quite correctly. I think you're right. It's all driven that way. It is. You lead it. You lead what you want. things to happen for for whatever outcome and you know that's just the way it is you know and and i've been thinking about this this week john and i've really kind of dropped the whole quote prepper prepping idea and here's why right um it's it's not i'm not preparing for anything anymore it just now is my way of life right you know i'm going back to what my my granddad did what my grandma did And that's what they did. You know, they had a garden and they put up stuff for the winter. And, you know, I mean, they weren't called preppers. They were just living. They were providing for themselves. And it's like, you know, if you have that kind of mindset, John, then I think it kind of takes the whole stigma away from it and people get a little bit more comfortable with it. And it's like, you know, hey, I'm, you know, it ain't no different than putting money in a bank account or putting money in a retirement account or whatever. It's the same idea, right? You know, I'm putting things on the shelf for the winter.
SPEAKER 07 :
Fully, fully agree. We've talked about that a lot here that that term can get a lot of, you know, at times negative connotations depending upon how involved you are or aren't or maybe some of your past history and people that you've known could even be family members. I think at times people tend to throw the baby out with the bathwater, Bill, because they, you know, I don't want to be that. That's the last thing I want to be. Well, time out. What if you called it something different or what if you took a different look at it versus what you've been used to? You might have a whole different perspective. In other words, change your perspective on it, which I think if there's anything we're trying to do on this program each week, to your point, is – that whole perspective, getting people to think, okay, what if this happened or what if I found myself in this particular situation? Am I ready? Am I able to, you know, take over? Do I have not only the physical tools available to me to make it through this particular predicament? Do I have the mental skills? Do I have the knowledge? You know, do I have everything that it takes to make it through some of these things? Because as I, and I know you do the same thing as I read books, a lot of these different books for end-of-the-world type scenarios and things like that. I'll give a hand to these particular authors. They think of things at times, Bill, that, frankly, I just never would have thought through. They come up with things, and granted, that's what they do. That's why they sell books and so on. But they've got me thinking about things that, frankly, a couple, two, three years ago, I wouldn't have thought about because it's just not something that's at the top of your mind.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. It's kind of like in our self-defense classes, we constantly are running what you would call scenarios, right? A scenario, hey, you're in a bad neighborhood, or hey, somebody ran the shopping cart into your car, or they are accusing you of running your cart into the car, and how are you going to handle that situation? And basically what these books and things do is they're running scenarios for us in our mind. And when you get the reps in, Here's an interesting thing about your mind. Your mind doesn't know if it's a real scenario or a fake scenario, or even if you just imagine it in your head. Your body really doesn't know, and that's one of the bad things about reliving a tragedy in your life is you're re-experiencing that tragedy over and over and over and over again. And it's not healthy, right? And I know that's easier said than done, but sometimes that's hard to just shut that off. But, you know, your mind doesn't really know. And there's so many studies with the whole thing of, you know, kind of imagining, you know, hey, throwing three throws versus the test group that is actually throwing them. And the percentage is not that big of a difference of the people that just imagined it, they visualized it, and the people that did it, right? And so, you know, we are kind of doing that, if you will. And every week when we talk about a particular topic or things come up, we're running scenarios. And as people are listening and thinking about it, they're getting a rep in. Now, what you do with it is important, too. You know, you can't just say, oh, you give me something to think about. Hopefully we're giving people something to do. You know, in church, you know, it's kind of one of my things. If somebody comes up to me and goes, hey, you gave me something to think about, then I look at that as like, oh, I failed. Because I should have given you something to do, to take what we talked about today and go apply it to your life, in whatever area we're talking about. And hopefully we're doing that, you know, as we speak today. But one of the biggest things that I think we miss in all of this is if stuff goes, you know, we have the tools, we have the skills, do we have the mindset, right? Right. Do we have the mindset? Are we becoming fearful? Are we becoming overprotective? Are we becoming, you know, have we thought about that side of it? Because, John, I think a lot of people miss that. element, you know. They missed that portion of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree, and that's one of those things, again, we continue to talk about here. Somebody asked also, and yes, this is a definite yes, if there are any kind of bad weather situations while we were on air, hail uh tornadoes things like that whether it's this program or any other ones that i do live will you guys be notified of them absolutely plus you know klz is part of the emergency broadcast system as well so not only would i say something but you guys would hear that as well so at the end of the day yes you guys will all be notified if something like that happens bill one of the things in light of some of that because i was thinking today you know we're in that type of the time of the year where we can get all sorts of different storms we can have bad hail rain tornadoes things along those lines and backup power is one of those things that I think a lot of people think about but maybe never exercise anything on. And I get it. There is a broad spectrum of what is a need versus what a want is. In other words, some may want the entire house to have backup power. Well, that may be unrealistic depending upon your budget. So I thought maybe we could get into some of that and helping people understand that. you know, what do they need versus what they want, and then how do they determine whether they want, you know, whether they need, I should say, battery backup, regular, you know, generator, gasoline power, you know, natural gas type, you know, diesel power generators, things like that. And I guess the first thing I would ask you, given you're the electrician in all of this, where do folks start? What's the first thing that they should really look at in determining what they need?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, let's start there. But let's kind of touch back to the weather notification. So here's your first one. It is now hailing at my house. Okay, gotcha. So there you go. It is hailing. So the first place to start is, you know, there is no cookie cutter. You must understand that. And you've got to be careful, even listening to a show such as ours, or anybody out there for that matter on YouTube or whatever book, and thinking that, oh, you know, hey, John said this, so that's what I've got to do. You know, John's situation, Bill's situation, and your situation are completely different, right? So there is no cookie cutter in that. And, you know, I'm doing a lot of study in permaculture, and I don't know if you're familiar with that. No, I'm not. It's kind of setting up your yard in permaculture. what you would call you know kind of you know feeding back to the land and letting you know your gardening getting away from the traditional stuff and kind of getting into like food forests and tree guilds and i mean it's it's that's a very vague definition of it but when you're looking at permaculture or a little farm you know homestead or whatever you want to call it they talk about zones and and trust me this will this will make sense here in a minute And your zone zero is the things that are on your countertop. So maybe I have my sprouts there or I have whatever growing there. My zone one is whatever's in my backyard. And the idea is the further away from your house is, the less maintenance it's going to need, the less care it's going to need, because you don't want to be traveling all the way to the corner of your property to pick your lettuce. right? Because what happens? You forget about it. It's too far. It's not convenient and things like that. So you have these zones, you know, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, whatever it may be. And so the same thing is kind of true in whatever area we're talking about. Okay. So, you know, hey, what's my immediate need? If I'm in the house and let's say you and I are talking right now and the lightning is strikes and the power goes off. Okay. It's like, okay, well, how long is that going to be? And what do I need right now? Okay. Now that's going to be given, you know, hey, is it nighttime? Do I need to navigate my house in the dark now because there's no power? What do I need? Do I have medical? Do I have somebody on a ventilator or whatever kind of medical device? So you see how it doesn't necessarily, there's no cookie cutter, right? I can't say, oh, yeah, you need this, you need this, because you may be just fine. You may actually be just fine with no power for three to four hours. Like, actually, to be honest with you, most people are. Most people can survive this world with no power for three to four hours. True. True. You're not going to have your TV show. Okay. You're not going to have the Internet. Okay. Guess what? You'll live.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good point. And I'm sorry to be so tough on people.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're right.
SPEAKER 09 :
People need to get out of la-la land, John, you know?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, no, you are correct. I mean, I think that's where for the long haul, what are you needing? Because to your point, that short haul, that, let's face it, Bill, even a half a day, if you keep your fridge closed, keep the door closed, keep the freezer door closed and so on, could you go four or five hours without power? Yeah, absolutely you could. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but I'm on a well. Okay, well, you know, you should consider that. So, again, now we go back to what are your immediate needs. Okay, if I'm on a well and I need that power immediately, to give me water. First of all, remember this. You're on a pressure tank, so you will have some water until that pressure tank drops. And then, you know, it'll try to call for water, but it won't be able to. So, you know, it's not like your water is going to completely shut off because you do have some pressure in that tank. So, you know, again, if you need a drink of water, get it. But hey, are you putting away a couple gallons in there? Because again, you know, if I had a couple gallons on the shelf or whatever it may be, push comes to shove. I'm okay. You're good.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. I'm okay. That's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm not good. You know, people are like, I hate to be so blunt, but people are like, oh, my gosh, I'm so hungry. And I'm looking at you going, you got plenty in this tank.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you could, and people don't realize this, water, of course, you can't go as long without. But, Bill, for most people with food, you can go if you've got a good supply of water you could go a couple of weeks easily without food now you you may not have the energy levels and things that you would have otherwise some will go through withdrawals by the way because of all the crap we eat on a daily basis but you may not feel very well and by the way it's not because you're not eating food well It is because you're not eating food. You're not eating the food you're used to having, and your body's now going through withdrawals. So you're feeling bad from that, more so than not having the food itself, Bill, for the first 48 hours. After that, you can go weeks without food. Not a problem. Most Americans, easy three weeks.
SPEAKER 09 :
If not more. I mean, I talk to people all the time. I'm starving. I say, you want to see what starvation looks like? Look at the people from the concentration camps. That's starvation, buddy. You're nowhere close to that. And again, I hate to be so blunt, but it gets a little irritating because we are... We're a bunch of sissies, John. We're a bunch of sissies.
SPEAKER 07 :
I can't disagree with you on that. We are spoiled. Sissies is maybe not the right... I mean, it goes along with it. We're spoiled sissies. Maybe that's the way to say it, Bill. We're so spoiled. We have pretty much everything we want. at our fingertips. I mean, we live in a society today to where whether it's a big box store like a Costco, Walmart, Sands Club, all the way down to your local stores, all the way down to, in some cases, the quote-unquote convenience stores, gas stations, if you would, that we have placed everywhere. I mean, there's very, very few places you can't go find some substance to survive on literally in this country, Bill. We are very blessed in that area where most countries don't have that ability.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, so anyway, with that said, you know, I think people get a little overzealous with their battery or their generator or whatever it may be, power, their thoughts of what they really need. You know, because, again, now we're going back to that zones. okay so hey zone zero is okay maybe i got a little i think i've talked about this in the past i got a little you know knockoff pelican case or if you got the money pelican case i don't really care you know whatever suitcase i don't really care some type of a box and and you open it up and it's like okay i got some you know i got some headlamps in here got some flashlights in here um I'm good for a couple hours. I'm good for a couple hours. And like you said, as long as I don't open and close, open and close, open and close, because people are like, what about my food? Listen, we do service changes all the time. We turn people's power off for a good four to six hours. And everybody's food is fine. Your refrigerator will cycle for about 15 or so minutes every hour just to maintain the Right, because as long as it's sealed up, it's maintaining temperature. Right. Now, the more I open and close and all of that, then, yeah, I'm going to bring it down. Then I'm going to have to call for the cooling to bring it down. But for the most part, your fridge, your freezer can easily last a day with no power. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Real quick, I had a question that came in, and this is something you may know some about. I know a little bit about this as well, and that is somebody texted and said, one of the biggest fears I have is lightning. It can punch holes in roofs. It can do all sorts of damage, things along those lines. And what I would tell folks is if you're in an area where you feel like you're more susceptible to that than maybe some others for whatever reasons, and you would know that more than anybody else, by the way, because you know your house better than anything. There are companies out there that make, you know, lightning, and Bill, you're the electrician, you would know this more than I, not necessarily deterrent, deterrency systems, but they're systems designed to handle the lightning when it shows up. Let me say it that way. Is that the right way to say it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, here's the reality. Again, the reality of the situation, you know, you're getting hit by lightning. I mean, that's pretty big, right? You're not going to... You know, deflect that 100%. You're not, I mean, you're, I'm sorry, but you're between, you know, a rock and a hard place, to put it nicely. You know, you're screwed. You're screwed. I mean, that's just pretty much what it is. I mean, I've got several trees on my property here right next to my house that have been hit by lightning. You could tell because there's a big scar right up the side of them. And so out here in the eastern plains of Colorado, we get hit a lot. So, yeah, if you're in that kind of area, yeah, you want to get a lightning system, right? And basically what they are is they're rods that are put up on the peaks and things of your house. And then the idea is that when the lightning strikes these things, it diverts the flow away from your internal energy. wiring of your house and takes it to ground through external rods and things of that nature. If you've got any understanding of electricity, electricity takes the path of least resistance. You're creating these lightning rods to dissipate the biggest strike through the path of least resistance. It's kind of the same thing with surge protection. People are asking me, hey, what can I get? Surge protection, will it protect me from a lightning strike? And I'm like, honestly, no. You're going to have damage. And even with EMP Shield, I think you guys offer that, we offer that. It's not going to protect it. They'll give you insurance with it. It might help. But, you know, if it gets into the interior wiring of your house and things of that nature or hits structure, I mean, listen, if it hits your roof and blows a hole in your roof, there's nothing electrically that's going to save you.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. No, it is what it is. And there was a company that was not far from a shop I had in Boulder called Lightning Eliminators. They're still around. They do really high-end, high-tech stuff. things along those lines, Bill, to where if you're a manufacturing company, for example, and a lightning strike would be detrimental to your business, yes, they do make systems. They're not cheap. I doubt most homeowners, unless you've got a boatload of money, most homeowners couldn't afford to put the type of systems they make in. Do they work? Absolutely they do. I've seen them in action, and yes, they work, but they are not for the faint of heart cost-wise.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's super expensive. And honestly, out here where I live, a lot of houses, a lot of outbuildings and things have a lightning system on them. But it comes at a cost. And this is the same thing what we're talking about with our topic today. If you want me to put in a 22, 24, 27K generator for your whole house because you're worried about that one or two hours of power you might not have, We can do that, you know, but whatever your pocketbook can afford, you know, we can do that if that's what you want. I just had this conversation yesterday with somebody. It's like, you know, you probably don't need this. What this will give you, honestly, is peace of mind. Right. And peace of mind is, you know, enough. for you to justify the cost, then I have no problem doing that. But that's up to you, and I don't know your budget.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're going to come back and talk more about that. So, folks, if you've got anything else, please send us a text message. Some of you are without power as we speak, so we're on the right topic, given that some of you are texting along those lines right now. Hang tight. We'll talk more about this in a moment. Don't go anywhere. You can text us, by the way, 307- 200-8222-307-28222. We'll be right back. This is Ready Radio, KLZ 560.
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Bill Anderson with me today. Bill, do you have any classes, anything coming up that you want to talk about in the near future that we should mention before we get going?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, we just continually have our concealed carry classes, level one, level two, and level three. And then we also have first aid CPR, kind of stop the bleed classes going on. And those are all available via the website, prep2protect.com. co.com prep to protect co.com and you can also reach out through if you are interested in getting some generator uh information or a quote for maybe some battery backup storage or that long you could check out arc electric co.com as well
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, so folks that are thinking about that end of it, where we're thinking, okay, and somebody mentioned that, keep in mind, if you're somebody that's got a high water table and you run on a sump pump, that's one thing that you would have to be more careful on because in a big torrential storm where things may be, you know, raining super hard, you do lose power, want to make sure that things aren't backing up inside, especially if you've got a finished basement. If it's unfinished, maybe not quite as big of a deal, but if it's a finished basement, something you probably ought to be paying attention to. what you need generator whatever to keep things going because in that particular case bill as you know you're going to have more water coming in you would normally power is out how are you handling a potential flood issue in your basement yeah so again we kind of go back to you got to figure out your situation and there's no cookie cutter with this let's talk about um some things here real quick and then we'll get back to this to answer this question but things that cause
SPEAKER 09 :
Power outage in the Denver metro area. Let's just kind of look at what those common are. Yes, weather conditions is probably number one. High winds, snowstorm, extreme temperatures, which we're going to start maybe have later this summer, are the primary cause for the power outages. You've got to remember, too, the Xcel energy power grid was built over 60 years ago. Got it? And it's still above ground, all right? So that is, you know, leaves it all susceptible to those high winds, snows, things of that nature. But that's actually, and that's probably why a lot of people are starting to experience more power outages is because of that. Also, I will say this, because we love to be, quote, green, John, right? And energy efficient, right? which is a bunch of balarkey, by the way, it actually is putting more strain on our grid. The requirement of car chargers and the demand electrically per house. You know, if you go back and think about it, sometimes people would go to these older houses and they're like, you know, hey, I only had one outlet in my bedroom. And they're like, I just don't have enough outlets. And it's like, yeah, what does that tell you? They didn't have the demand electrically back then as we do now. But we think we're energy efficient. You know, we think, hey, we got all these LED light bulbs. We got all this green stuff. I can tell you the houses now, which used to be 100-amp electrical service, used to be more than enough. Now, a lot of these houses, we're having to put in 400 amps, which is equivalent to, you know, three something by the time it's all said and done. But it's like, are you kidding me? You know, and a mandate, you know, now of, hey, every garage has to have a car charger. You know, that's between a 30 and a 50 amp 220. Hey, you got to have this. Oh, we can't do natural gas anymore. So all your stuff has to be electric. But hey, we're energy efficient. This is one of my favorites. stinking hot button because it's just it's it's a it's a load of poop you know it's it's really what it is yeah it's you know um It's just garbage. But anyway, so, you know, 60% of the infrastructure of Denver is, or not 60%, excuse me, most of Denver's infrastructure now is 60 years old. So that leads to equipment failures, right? Transformers and all of these things can lead to outages. In 2024, 15 problematic transmission feeder lines accounted for 18% of the outages in the Denver metro area. Did you hear what I just said? Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amazing. Yep. Amazing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. And so then you have in 2024, the average Xcel Energy customer experienced 350 minutes of power outages, which is an average of 166 minutes between 2014 and 2023. And then additionally, 90,000 customers experienced six or more outages in a year. So that's what's happening. So you can take a look at Jackery.com, and you can see Xcel Energy's outage map. It provides real-time information on outages, including affected areas, estimated restoration times. And by the way, the whole idea of, oh, I get a text message saying, when a when an outage is in my area cool that's great it may work it may not work i mean whatever we did this last tornado we had come through elizabeth here um there was no emergency alert on nobody's phone kind of crazy somebody really quick somebody just said that there's a funnel cloud out towards your area franktown area as we speak to so those of you that are out in that area it's been posted on social media so be alert be watching and paying paying attention Yep. So if you lose me, hey.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, no. Okay, so those that are thinking, okay, I do need – I want to make sure that because of the stats that Bill just read off, I want to make sure that I'm protected, at least some of my key things are protected. And this is where it gets a little bit dicey and where actually Bill even having a sit-down chat with you at their home as an electrician and even going over – hey, these are your options, here's the cost, and so on, is really, really a great idea. And I mean that sincerely, not just trying to push bill services on all of you listening, but literally sitting down and saying, okay, have you thought about this? Sometimes an extra set of eyes and looking around your place saying, okay, you want to keep this running, but what about that over there? And so that really, I think, at times, Bill, helps. But in general, how do folks figure? So let's say they want to put a whole house generation system in. How do they know what KW they need?
SPEAKER 09 :
so you're going to be kind of limited to what you can you know reasonably afford let's just say that and i would say you know 22 kw is going to give you you know approximately 92-ish amps full load max you know the other thing you need to keep in mind that in an event that you do have a power outage listen you need to be very energy-conscious, right? Meaning, hey, I might not be able to run everything. I might not be able to fire up my hot tub. I might not be able to charge my car, you know?
SPEAKER 07 :
Even the AC, depending upon your budget, right, Bill?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely. Hey, maybe I've got to open up some windows and be a little warm. You know, again, you have to think about this. Now, when you think about that, and again, the biggest question is, too, is my furnace electric or gas yes i understand there's a motor in there that turns the you know that blows the the blower you know and and things but there's also furnaces out there that are completely electric elements right so is that that is my dryer electric okay and and by the way too to your point you know power outage i might not be doing laundry it might not right but then my stove. My stove or my oven, is it electric or is it gas? Because those are the big consumers. Right, right. Those guys are the consumers, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, anything that has a, I guess the way to say it, Bill, anything with a large element, that would be a stove, that would be a dryer. Microwaves are big suckers of energy as well, by the way. Most people don't realize that. They think, oh, that's just really easy. I'll just zap this. Well, that is one of your largest... energy-using kitchen appliances there is, Bill, as you know.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And, you know, you can look at your energy bill and see how many, you know, watts you've used because that's how you pay your bill, right? Right. Based on the kilowatt hour. So you can see what your consumption is and you can kind of get an idea. And the point I'm trying to make here, John, is, you know, even though I said just a minute ago that we are sucking the grid dry, right, that our energy consumption has actually gone up, not down, right? The reality is when push comes to shove, to really survive, let's say you have a well, let's say you have the essentials going, the furnace or whatever it may be. Furnace in the wintertime, you've got to keep going. AC in the summertime, yeah, I can turn them off. The reality of the situation is I might be pulling 60 amps. But, again, I don't want everybody to take that as a cookie-cutter answer because there's places out here where I live, it's like, hey, we got animals, and we got to keep the elements and the water, you know, thing from freezing. We got whatever it may be, you know. I mean, every shoe is different, so we got to tailor that. But when we throw that up there, John, you know, A 22kW, a 24, 27 should be more than enough for most people, most, you know, average-sized houses, yeah. So, you know, and those are pretty standard, and that's going to get you, you know, 27 might get you about 112 amps. And check that out, too. Between a 27 and a 22, you're talking maybe 10, 20 amps, again, depending on what you're pulling. And the more you're pulling... the more fuel, whatever that fuel is, you're going to consume, right? So think of a pickup truck and driving that pickup truck empty downhill, I'm not going to burn as much fuel as if it's loaded and I'm going uphill, right? So I'm going to consume way more fuel, whether it's diesel, propane, natural gas, whatever it is, you fill in the blank, I'm going to consume more fuel with the more load I have on it, which may or may not be a concern for you. But if you are not attached to a natural gas line or if you have limited storage with your propane, now you better be thinking about that. Or if I'm running gas tanks, right? So... Besides that, really just we got to look at what you essentially need, you know, kind of going back to the person that responded with the sump pump. It's like, okay, well, yeah, that's a legitimate thing in my opinion. We do a lot of generators out here, John, because people leave for the winter and they go to warmer places. And it's like, hey, I don't want my furnace to go down with no power. and then have lines, water lines freeze while I'm gone and come back to a big mess. And so they've got, you know, a... A generator going there, and it's all automated so that they don't have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's another question that people need to think through as well, and you just mentioned it. If folks are on natural gas, can you power that generator, or do you want to power it with that? If you're wanting to do diesel fuel, well, that's a whole different animal. I talk about that even on Saturday on Drive Radio because keeping diesel fuel fresh is a whole other challenge. Maybe you're on propane, and maybe you just want to run it on propane. Maybe you've got a natural gas, but you want to be able to have a secondary source and be out of the natural gas end of things, and you want to run it on propane, and you've got the ability to do that. I mean, Bill, these are things that folks need to think about on the front side, correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and again, I go back to the layering system. You've got to go back to the layer system, that zones, right? We have, you know, zone one, zone two, zone three, and I've got many options, okay? So I've got, okay, I got my little box here with my flashlights and my little, you know, things that's going to get me through. Let's say we're getting into that one to two hour, getting close to that two hour mark, and it's like, okay, it doesn't look like the energy is going to come on. Okay, let's go to the next step. The next step is, you know, maybe I pull out a Jackery or some kind of a solar generators, they call them, which is really a misnaming of those. But anyway, whatever, I digress with that. But I pull out something like that. Okay, I got this ready now. Maybe it's a portable generator, you know, and I fire that up and we run some extension cords to that sump pump or we run some extension cords to the furnace. Again, you know, it's The lanes here are very wide and very broad in what we're driving in. Now we're going, okay, it's been several hours now. Okay, now I've got to start thinking about my refrigerator, my freezers. So having these scenarios, circling back to the scenarios, played out in your head, And then you have the plan to go forward and to implement the plans as you progress in that power outage, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Is there – and I get this quote-unquote debate quite often, even from those that are listening, texting, emailing, and so on – do you do power wall, you know, generation backup with solar and so on, or do you just go straight, you know, regular natural gas, diesel powered, propane powered, you know, generation backup or, or both, or does it depend on the circumstances?
SPEAKER 09 :
Uh, whatever you can afford.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, whatever you can afford. I mean, I'm sorry to say that, but it comes down to money, right? Um, if you want the, the best, what I would call create your own micro grid, uh, Um, yeah, I got solar and then I've got a battery wall and I've got a backup generator. Okay. And so the idea is this, because you got to understand, you got to understand too. And I mean, now we're talking long-term now. We're not talking for that, that power outage is out for, for a day or two. You're talking long-term. Okay. So, um, I'm, I'm going to top that battery. I'm going to work off of that battery. Okay. Now, whatever feeds my battery, if the sun's up, I've got my system set up that's going to prioritize taking the solar energy minus what I'm currently using, the excess of it, and instead of sending it back to the grid for micro pennies on the dollar, I'm going to store it and put it into my battery. Now, when the sun goes down and I don't have the sun, now I'm going to start to draw off the battery. Okay, if the battery gets drained in the night and it needs to pop off again, the generator fires. While the generator's feeding the electricity of the house, the excess, because when your generator's running... You're creating electricity whether you're using it or not. That's one of the bad things about a generator, right? If I want the energy on demand, I have to have that thing running the entire time. A battery energy on demand is, hey, I suck it down, I turn off whatever I'm using, well, I still got potential there. I still got potential in my battery, right? It's like a gas tank. You're using it, and then when it gets low, you've got to top it back off. So the generator kicks on. I'm using the generator power as it's running. The excess is topping off the batteries. Once the battery gets to a certain level, the generator kicks off, and now I'm working off battery here. And you can also add the grid into that to charge the battery. You can also add wind power, a turbine into that, whatever. Whatever you're tapping your battery off with, that's better. So now, how do I size the batteries? Well, again, you know, what's your load? What are you pulling from? You can start off with something as simple as a 5K, or Franklin makes a 7K, and you can start off with that. You know, it runs about $3,000 or so just for the battery, not the installation, you know, but kind of a general idea. And then, you know, hey, save up a little bit more, and hey, let's add another 7K, or let's add two 7Ks. You know, you can... you can stack it, you can grow it as you want to. And then at some point, you know, you can become energy efficient. And then, you know, the whole talk of, well, I can plug in my Tesla or I can plug in my whatever electric car and I can drain off that. You can't, it ain't gonna last very long, you know, but you can pull off of that guy too if you want to, if you get it set up right. You know, just don't plan on going anywhere because now you can't go anywhere. But so it's a very deep subject and it can take many different, directions. It can go off many different tangents, if you will, John. Again, we've got to figure out what you want, what you're looking for, and build it around that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Somebody just had a great question, which I never really thought about. Is there battery walls? We call them whatever. Tesla's got them. There's several different brands that are out there, as you know, Bill. Do they have to have solar to operate, or can you run those independent of solar? In other words, can you just charge those off the grid, and then when the grid goes down, you still have that power?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, absolutely, and that's what's nice about the Franklin system is is it doesn't care about the input. You can prioritize the input. So if you have a cloudy day, or during the winter we may not have as much sun, it'll pull off the grid. And you can program it to do it on non-peak hours. so that you can be charging your wall in the middle of the night, let's just say, when the electricity is cheaper, and then have it dispatched or use that when it's more expensive to kind of offset the cost. Now, I will tell people this, too, because people think they're going to make their money back, and I'm like, The return of investment on these things, solar, battery walls, generators, whatever, listen, it's... It's not there. You probably won't get it, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. Not in our lifetime.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. So, again, you're paying for that peace of mind. You're paying for whatever. Now, if you have somebody in your house that needs that medical stuff, you know, needs that ventilator, needs whatever, whatever. I don't know all the things that people use for medical things, but... Now it's not a question of return on investment. It could be a question of life or death, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Here's another question that I've even had, and this might be a dumb question, but on the power walls, do they make them where they're external? They can go on the outside, or do they all have to go inside of a garage or a basement? How does that part of it work, Bill?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, absolutely. They're made to go outside, inside. Now, you do want to make sure, you know, be smart about it, right? Because especially in Colorado, we have very intense sun. And, you know, the UV and the intenseness, it's not even an English word, but whatever, the intensity of the sun really will start to degrade your equipment over time. And plus, I don't know if anybody has an electric car, you know that that battery charges and the retainment of the energy in that battery is different in the winter than it is in the summer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then people that live like in Phoenix and stuff, you know, they've got to take care of their batteries because the excessive heat is good for them. Correct. So, you know, I would keep that in mind. But, no, to answer your question, they can go outside. They can go inside mine personally or in the inside of my garage. And I think the life of the battery will last a little bit longer if you put it in a better box.
SPEAKER 07 :
Less temperature swings, right, just like any other battery.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, exactly. Okay, makes total sense. All right, let's do this. We'll take a quick break. We'll have a couple of minutes or so when we come back. If you've got more questions, keep texting. I've got a couple more that have come in that I'll read in a moment. 307-200-8222. We'll be right back. Ready Radio. It's ready-radio.com is our website.
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SPEAKER 09 :
Sure. It's ARK Electric, A-R-K as in Noah's Ark, and the number is 303-656-3688. eight, nine. And, you know, what we can also do is we could probably just come out and set up a consultation where we will come through, walk through what you have going on, what you're looking to have accomplished. And then we can create, you know, a total energy, what we'd call plan that would say, okay, Here's some ideas from all of these different layers that you can do. And, you know, we can set that up. I mean, obviously, that wouldn't be a free consultation. That would be a charged consultation. But at least it would give you a plan. Great idea. And give you an idea of... Okay, here's what I do. And then if you wanted to go into that, you know, that final step of, you know, the power walls or, you know, I call them power walls. There's, like you said, there are Generac has one, several people have them. But, you know, hey, you know, give me a crescent wrench, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, that is, Bill, that's a great idea. Just, it's sort of like... um you know there's other things where people pay for a consultation on the front side to determine you know do i want to do this do i want to do that a lot of you know remodeling things and you'll hire a contractor or a design artist or something along those lines to really get an idea of okay these are all of my you know this is option a b and c and then after that you can sit down as a family couple whatever kind of sit down and figure out okay these are all of the scenarios this is the options of each one of those scenarios these are the budgetary items along those lines and then when it's all said and done which direction you know do we want ahead and you're taking a really good solid educated approach versus and this is where i'm going with this everybody listening versus seeing those ads that come in from you know honeywell or generac or wherever hey get get a whole house generation and, you know, fill this form out and blah, blah, blah. And Bill, I'll just tell you straight up, not the way to do it. Having a consultation with you on the front side would be the best money spent.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, because I'm not forcing, you know, that cookie cutter on you, right? That's right. That's one of the big problems with, you know, all this stuff. It's like, you have to do this. And, you know, and a lot of times, John, they use scare tactics. And, you know, being a pastor, I'm That's another hot button, right? I'm not here to scare you. I want to educate you. I want to educate you, and then you can make the best forms. And by the way, through that process, too, there's things in there that you'll have immediate takeaways from and that you'll be able to employ right on the spot. Be like, oh, yeah. And things that we can honestly do and get you started very, very cheaply. I mean, one of the ideas that I've got – You know, it's, hey, go out and buy a bunch of those 99-cent solar lights. Stick them in your yard. Hey, in the worst-case scenario, in an outage in the night, go grab those things. Bring him inside. There you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Great idea. Great idea. All right. That's it for today. We'll have more next week. We might even continue this topic a little bit more because there's always a lot to talk about when it comes to the whole power end of things. If you guys have a specific question, again, reach out. Go to ready-radio.com, or you can see Bill at prep2protectco.com. Bill, appreciate you, man. All right.
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Talk to you next week.
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Arrogance is more than just a trait; it is a catalyst for chaos and destruction. In today's episode, Rick Hughes unravels the multifaceted nature of arrogance, examining its impact on both personal and national levels. Through scriptural wisdom, listeners are enlightened on the difference between divine and human viewpoints and how arrogance creates a veil of self-deception and unrealistic self-images. Journey towards humility and gain insights on preventing the destructive cycle of sin nature, ultimately guiding your faith towards spiritual fruition.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to The Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, I'd like to invite you to stay tuned. It'll be a short time of motivation, some inspiration, some education, and we do it all without any type of manipulation. That's right, no con games. We're not trying to hustle anybody. We're not trying to solicit membership. We're not going to ask you for any money. This radio show is a little different because it's designed to teach you something, to give you accurate information, not some human speculation. But accurate information from the canon of Scripture or the Bible. And so I pray that you'll listen and that you'll understand, come to see the dynamics of the Word of God in your life so that you can orient and adjust to the plan. If you'd like to do that, you've got the freedom and the privacy to live your life any way you want to do. God did not make you a little automaton. You have the right to do whatever you want to do. He gave you freedom, free will, volition. You can choose for or against his plan. But I'd like to give you the plan. I'd like for you to understand the plan so that you at least know your choices, what they are. Remember, as we talk about on this show, God gave you two ends, one to sit with, one to think with. Success in life is going to depend on which one you use. Heads, you'll win. Tails, you'll lose. So learn to think. That's the dynamics of the Christian life, thinking. Everything you do has to start with a thought, and it turns into a motive, then turns into an action. And some things sometimes have reciprocation that comes with it. But it starts with a thought. What think ye of Christ is the first question the Bible asks. What think ye of Christ? The most important decision anyone could ever make is to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the single most significant decision any man, woman, child has to make. What think ye of Christ? Is he indeed the Son of God, as he said he was? Or is he a lunatic and a liar, as some people claim? That's up to you. You'll have to weigh the evidence and weigh the facts and make your own decision, but I can tell you, in my opinion, I have believed in Christ. I have received him as my savior. I can identify him working in my life, although I've never seen him personally. I will see him someday, but I know he's real. I know he lives. I know he lives in me. And I know that he loves you and will come and live in you also. To as many as received him, the Bible says, God gave the gift to have eternal life. It's the most simple decision you could ever make. Father, I'm a sinner. I know that if I died, I'm going to hell. It's a simple prayer, something like that. That's all I did. I just simply prayed and asked God to save me. I don't even remember the words. And I didn't have any static feeling. I just worked. God did it. And he will do it in your life as well. There's no sense walking around hoping you're going to heaven. There's no sense trying to go to heaven. And I'll show you that today. There is a way you can know. The Bible says these things are written so that you may know that you have eternal life. He that has a son has life, and he that has not the Son of God hath not life. 1 John chapter 5, somewhere down in chapter 5, those verses are found. I don't remember exactly off the top of my head, but I remember the verses. Okay, now, what we want to talk about today on this radio show, if you're listening, is As I would like to let you know, we have added a lot more stations. We've taken away a couple. But we probably, right as of this broadcast, we're up to about 50 radio stations across America. 50 stations we're broadcasting on every Sunday morning. And that's a huge leap of faith, I promise you. The budget for that is absolutely a lot. So please pray for us. Pray for God's wisdom. as we continue to advance the show, maybe even more than that. It's a great time, a great opportunity, great times of history for us to be reaching out to those who are positive, to those who are interested, to those who might take note. And so today, if you're a new listener, this is called the FLOT line, F-L-O-T, and it stands for the Forward Line of Troops, F-L-O-T, Forward Line of Troops. The military metaphor is about you learning at least 10 unique problem-solving devices, so that you can use them, store them in your soul, and use them in times of adversity, so that you can stop the outside sources of adversity from ever becoming the inside sources of stress. There are unique problem-solving devices in the Bible. This is not something new. We haven't written a book bestseller on this thing. I learned these from my pastor years ago. But if you will learn them, you will use the 10 problem-solving devices called a FLOTLINE, you will find the greatest joy and the greatest happiness while you're here on this earth that you could ever experience. However, there is a downside. When you don't follow the protocol plan of God, when you reject it and you decide to go down the my way highway, then you're setting yourself up for what I call self-destruction. You have the power to destroy your own life and you have the power to make a great life. It all depends on your volition and your decisions. So the study I want to do with you for the next few moments is called the study on the power of arrogance. The power of arrogance. The power of arrogance to create chaos and cause self-destruction. I remember after I became a Christian, I had to learn about sin. And I thought I was doing pretty good. I learned that sin could be something you say. Sin could be something you do. Sin could be something you think. And I thought, okay, I got a grip on sin now. I don't want to be sinning too much. And I learned how to confess my sins. Problem-solving device number one, the rebound technique. If we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us and purify us from all wrongdoing. I learned that was the key to the filling of the Holy Spirit, which is problem-solving device number two. which gives me the ability to override the desires of the flesh. If we walk in the spirit, we won't fulfill the lust of the flesh. And so I had to learn these things. So I learned about sin, sin, sin. And then all of a sudden, somebody taught me about evil. And I went, uh-oh, I thought all sin was evil. Well, it is. But evil is actually a system. You see, God's system is grace. For by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift from God. It's grace. We live by grace, we die by grace, but there is a counterfeit system. This counterfeit system is called evil, and evil can manifest itself in many ways, especially in organized religion where people are saved by not grace, but by something they do, trying to earn their way to heaven. We'll show you that here in just a minute. So you have to be careful, because I had to learn about sin, I had to learn about evil, and then all of a sudden, My pastor began to teach me about arrogance. And oh, did my eyes get opened. I had to learn about arrogance. I had to learn about self-justification, self-deception, self-absorption, and eventually self-destruction. And in the short time we have here today, this is what I want to talk to you about, how you can destroy your own life by being arrogant. The key verse is Romans 12, 3, where Paul wrote, stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance, beyond what you should think, but think in terms of sanity as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. Now, that standard of thinking from his word is called divine viewpoint. And you can think divine viewpoint, and that's thinking God's word. What does the Bible say about this? Or you can think human viewpoint. And human viewpoint is what do my friends say about this? Or what does the world say about this? Or what does AKA the devil say about this? If you apply that into morals, you'll find this, that things that used to be good have now become evil, and things that used to be evil are now accepted as good. Because human viewpoint now says, well, that's really okay. It's a natural and accepted type of life. When divine viewpoint says, no, it's not, it's a sin. So you have to decide which one you're going to follow. Are you going to follow what the Bible says, or will you follow what you think is right, what your friends convince you is right? You know, the Bible says in Proverbs 3, 7, don't be wise in your own eyes. That is self-evaluation, that's arrogance. That's you having an unrealistic self-image. If you have an unrealistic self-image, you have unrealistic expectations. If you think you're one thing and you're not and God treats you in a way you're not worthy of being treated, you might be shocked. For example, many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did I not do this and did I not do that? And the Lord said, I will tell them I never knew you. Depart from me. Religious arrogance is terrible. And I'll show you that here in a minute. Today we look at individual self-destruction, and hopefully we'll take a look at national self-destruction. But here's a principle I want you to remember. I'd like for you to get this in your brain, if you would. Without divine wisdom, without divine wisdom, that's the Bible doctrine found in the pages of Scripture. Without divine wisdom, man would destroy himself and those around him. since we are so easily manipulated by the ideas of Satan. Thus, we have God's laws and actions to prevent that from happening. What God wrote down in the Bible and recorded in the scriptures is to keep you from destroying yourself. He didn't try to keep you from having a good time in life. God's not trying to shut off the fun faucet. What God is doing is saying, if you will listen to me, you won't self-destruct. But people don't listen. People go down the my way highway and they go into individual self-destruction by repeatedly sinning, repeatedly going negative to God's laws, building up a tremendous amount of scar tissue in their soul, as we'll look at here in a minute. And the end result is their heart becomes very hard and they wind up very miserable and they die very lonely. So here we go. The arrogance of trying to save yourself. The arrogance of trying to save yourself. Jesus taught this in Luke chapter 18. The Bible says Jesus used this illustration with some who were sure that God approved of them while they looked down on everyone else. That's what religion does. Religion evaluates you and judges you if you don't meet its standards. So Jesus went on to say, two men went into the temple courtyard to pray. One was a Pharisee, religious man. The other was a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and he prayed, oh God, I can just hear him now, can't you? Oh God, thank you. I'm not like other people. I'm not a robber. I'm not a dishonest person. I haven't committed adultery. I'm not like this tax collector over here. I fast twice every week and I give you a tenth of my entire income. This is what he was basing his salvation on. that he tithed, that he fasted, that he didn't fornicate, that he didn't lie. And so the tax collector, standing at a distance, Jesus said in Luke 18, 13, the tax collector stood at a distance and he would not even look up at heaven. And he became very upset and he said, God, please have mercy on me, I'm a simple sinner. Jesus said, I can guarantee that this tax collector went home with God's approval. But the Pharisee didn't. Because everyone who honors himself will be humbled, but the person who humbles himself will be honored. And there you have it. No one gets saved by giving tithes. No one gets saved by not drinking, not smoking, not cussing, not fornicating. We get saved the way everyone else gets saved. For by faith are you saved through grace. It's a gift of God, not of work, lest any man would brag about it. Christ did it for us. Titus 3.5, not by works of righteousness which we've done, but But according to his mercy, he saved us by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord, so that being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. That's it. And so if you want to destroy yourself eternally, if you want to wind up in the lake of fire, then turn away from the good news, the gospel, and turn to your own self-religious works and try to prove to God that you deserve to be in heaven. And you will find at the great white throne of judgment when the books of works are opened and all your works are evaluated, they do not measure up to the righteous standard of God. See, the Bible says there are none that are righteous, no, not one. All of our righteousnesses are like a filthy rag in God's eyes. There's no way you can approbate God. There's no way you can satisfy the righteousness of God. That's why the Bible says he that knew no sin was made sin for us so that we could be made the righteousness of God through Christ, through him. Individual self-destruction through religions is a sad, sad, sad state of affair, but it happens. Individual self-destruction like Mark 7, 20 through 23. And he said, what comes out of a person is what defiles that person. For from within, now this is the sin nature. You have one and I have one. For by one man sin entered into the world and death by sin. And now death comes upon all men for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. This is your sin nature. You may try to cover it up by being good, nice, moral, sweet, but here it is. And he said, what comes out of a person is what defiles him. The word defiles is the Greek word meino, and it means what's in the toilet. For from within the sin nature, or out of the heart of man, comes evil thoughts. That's the thinking of Satan, the counterfeit thinking of Satan through religion. sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, errors, listen, all of this, slander, pride, foolishness, all of these things come from within, and they defile a person. They put you in the sewer. Wow, so you have the capability to make a mess out of your life if you let your sin nature control you. And arrogance is just the door that it's looking for to get in. Self-justification overrides all the divine mandates of the Bible. The Bible may tell you don't fornicate, and you fornicate anyhow because you say, well, we love each other, and it's okay. The Bible may tell you that homosexuality is wrong, and you may say, no, it's not. We love each other, and it's okay. When you justify your actions, you override divine mandates. So from self-justification, you go to self-deception. And self-deception overrides any implanted truth. Maybe your parents gave you. Maybe your pastor gave you years ago. You learned something. You heard something. But now you've kicked it out. You've rejected it. And you override it with your own wisdom. Do not be wise in your own eyes, the Bible said. But here you are. Now, all of a sudden, you're smarter than God. Now, all of a sudden, you got it figured out, and the Bible's wrong, and God didn't really mean that, and those words don't really mean that, and you are kidding yourself. But that's okay. It's your life. You can live it any way you want to live it. God will not interfere, I promise you. If you want to live that way, have at it. But I can promise you one thing. There's judgment coming and you will face him. Self-justification, self-deception, self-absorption. Self-absorption overrides self-preservation. When you should be striving to live a normal, happy, wonderful, beautiful life as God designed, you go the opposite direction and you lose the ability to preserve yourself. You wind up dying. If you're a believer, they're sent unto death. If you're not a believer, you wind up making some stupid decisions that cost you a fortune and fame and happiness in your life. Self-destruction overrides God's provisions of grace. He never designed you to live that way. He never designed you to destroy your own life. But because of your arrogance, you did. You justified sin. You deceived yourself into thinking it was okay. And you became totally self-absorbed with it to the point of where it destroyed you. And you missed out on all of God's wonderful provisions. Listen to Proverbs 26, 12. Do you see a man who's wise in his own eyes? Listen to the next part now. Do you see a man who's wise in his own eyes? There's more hope for a fool than for him. Proverbs 26, 12. There's more hope for a fool than for him. Wise in his own eyes. Here's the principle. It's better to be a fool than to be an arrogant idiot because the fool at least might learn something and the arrogant idiot thinks he knows it already and God's got to be wrong because it just feels right to him. Proverbs 11.2, with arrogance comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. The wisdom that God wants to give to you is found in Proverbs where it talks about wisdom. So much is there. It gives you discernment, insight, understanding, knowledge. And this is what God is looking for, someone who understands him. God said, I want you to know me, but I also want you to understand me, Jeremiah 9. That's what he's looking for. And if you get God's knowledge, you will understand God. You will have insight and discernment, which we call spiritual x-ray vision. You'll be able to see through the fog, the smoke screen that Satan throws up that the world cannot see through. So with humility comes wisdom. Humble yourselves before the mighty hand of God, the Bible says. In Philippians 2, it says, Our Lord humbled himself and made himself of no reputation. The greatest thing that you could do is to humble yourself before the Word of God and believe it and apply it into your life. Arrogant people won't do that. They won't take time to study. They won't take time to go to church. They don't believe the Bible. They don't believe God's right. And they think they found a better deal. Good luck. When God in his infinite wisdom says, don't do that, but you in your own arrogance justify the action, then you are guaranteeing a life of misery. Has it ever occurred to you why God said don't do that? Could it be it's to protect you from the traps of Satan who lures you into self-destructive tendencies and habits that you can't control? And if you do those things enough, then you will develop scar tissue. Say, what's that? Ephesians 4.18, being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart, and having become calloused, they give themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greed. darkened in the understanding. They don't understand what they're doing. They can't see it. Excluded from the life of God. That's outside the plan of God. Because of ignorance, no wisdom. Because their hearts got hard and they became callous. There's some people you just can't reach. You may have a child or a relative you're just not gonna reach. And whatever you say, they're not gonna believe it. And that's their choice. It breaks your heart, it breaks my heart to see it happen, but it's gonna happen. Because arrogance is just that strong. You gotta understand the strength of arrogance. But when God said he loved you, that wasn't a joke. He proved it by providing forgiveness through Christ our Lord. But you know, the fool says in his heart there is no God. Psalm 14.1, Psalm 53.1. The fool says in his heart there's no God. However, an idiot can go outside and look up at the stars at night and say somebody must have created that. I mean, that's too much order. It's too amazing to say it just happened by incident. This is the thing that God is always looking for. He's always looking for that person that wants to know him. And I hope you're that person. I hope you want to know him. I hope you want to learn everything you can about God and his word. I hope you want the understanding of God and the knowledge and the wisdom that comes from understanding him. with the insight and the discernment that he gives you. Psalm 53, 2, God has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men to see if there's anyone who understands and who seeks after him. Right this very moment, as this radio show is being played in over 50 states across America, 50 cities across America, God's looking at those of you that are listening. I promise you, he knows you're listening. I promise you something else. He knows the intentions and the desires of your heart. And I promise you something else. He can cleanse you from your sin and forgive you. He's not mad at you. He hasn't thrown you away. You're still alive. You still have purpose and meaning. all you have to do is rebound. If you have never believed in Christ, that's the first step, to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and throw yourself on the mercy of God and admit you're a sinner and you want to be saved. And secondly, if you are a Christian, then simply to come to the Father and confess your sin as the prodigal son did in the book of Luke 15. Father, I've sinned against heaven and against thee, and I'm no more worthy to be called your son. And of course, the father said, that's nonsense. You are my son. I'm glad you're home. God hasn't turned his back on you. You turned your back on him. And guess what? He's just been loving you from behind the whole time. He never threw you under the bus. He never rejected you. You rejected him. and now is your time to make a decision. Get ready to turn around and come back to the Father that loves you, the Father that has a plan for your life. If by chance you truly want to know God, it starts with accepting Christ as your Savior, since it was the Lord Jesus Christ who redeemed you out of the slave market of sin and reconciled you to God. So 1 John 5, 1 says, whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God. There it is. In 1 John 5, 4 and 5, for whatever is born of God overcomes the world, and this is the victory that has overcome the world, our faith. And who is the one who overcomes the world but the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God? The world is full of evil. The world is Satan's domain. It's full of Satan's lies, deception. You believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, you'll have a chance to make it through the devil's world. I promise you. Now what about national destruction? Arrogance is also related to national destruction, like national pride. That's kind of an unrealistic self-image leading to boasting about how great a nation is, but a nation can become just as arrogant as an individual and fall under divine discipline as well. Leviticus 26, 19, I will break down the arrogance of your power I will make your skies like iron and your land like bronze. I understand the skies in California are looking like bronze right now. I have a daughter that lives out there, and she sends me pictures of the smoke-filled skies, and you can't even see the sun. But when a nation such as ours begins to condone evil... and call evil actually good, and call good actually evil, then you can see the chaos that's coming. When the rule of law goes aside, the system now of government changes to a more progressive style, favoring socialism and cursing capitalism, you can see what's coming. When the divine institutions like marriage and family and freedom and nationalism begin to crumble, All these things occur as a result of satanic intrusion into government for the purpose of shutting down the spread of Christianity. That's what it's all about. Satan's primary objective is to shut down the spread of the gospel across the world because any person who believes in Christ puts him one step closer to going to the lake of fire, him being the devil. Anytime someone believes in Christ, Satan's one step closer to going to the lake of fire. So if we are a client nation and we are sending out missionaries, what do you think Satan wants to do? Shut us down. And how is he going to do it internally? Client nations exist like us to advance the gospel, and thus he will attack the client nation from within and then eventually from without. Hosea chapter four talks about how a client nation is destroyed, and I don't have time to go into all of it. I've done it before, but I'll tell you this part of it. He says, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you rejected knowledge, I will reject you, and you will no longer be a priest for me, seeing you forgot the laws of your God. I will forget your children. Your children, your grandchildren will not have a future because you don't have a knowledge of the word of God. You don't have the understanding of divine wisdom in your soul. You were so arrogant you thought you were wiser than God and you're not. You're setting yourself up for self-destruction and you're guaranteeing your nation will be destroyed as well until you recover and begin to think correctly. The only solution is a divine solution. And that solution is when people like you and I begin to think properly, when we begin to apply the word of God, when we begin to be invisible heroes and influencers in God's plan, then we can make a difference in this nation, not through politics, but through our own spiritual lives. I pray you're listening. I pray you're taking notes and keeping attention. If you need any assistance, let me know. and I'll come back next Sunday, same time, same place. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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All right, it's time. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us today. I appreciate it very much. It is a live program today on the 12th of July. Roy Perez and Dietze are here from ProTech Auto Shield. Welcome. Good morning.
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Thank you, John.
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Good morning. Very good. Okay. Glad you're here. So for those of you listening, we'll do some conversations today. I mean, I'll answer questions, any car questions you've got, we can handle that as well. But really want to focus today on it's that time of the year where a lot of you are, you know, you're out doing car shows, you're doing different things. You're maybe looking at doing some things with, you know, the paint on the car or how to do a proper detail. We'll even go through how to properly wash a car and do some things along those lines today as well. Explain to you. Lots of confusion, and it's getting worse, not better, when it comes to the quality of window tint, PPF, which is paint protection film, clear bra is the short name for it, and ceramic coating. There's a lot of dealers out there, unfortunately, that are telling you that, oh, you want that car ceramic coated? Give us an hour, we'll ceramic coat it for you, deliver it, and they're going to charge you X amount of money for that, and you cannot properly ceramic coat a car in an hour. It's just not possible.
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Right.
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They're doing some spray bottle nonsense, which is not giving you any kind of protection, really. It might for a little bit, maybe a few weeks, but it is not doing what true ceramic coating is doing. So while they'll tell you that and they'll have a big markup in that, trust me, that is not what you want to do. There's also, and it's still happening. Some of you text me this from time to time. The dealerships will tell you that the ceramic coating will be a hail protection coating. No such thing. Ceramic coating is not going to do anything at all when it comes to hail protection. It may do a little bit when it comes to some scratching and some things like that. And even that, it depends on how deep and how heavy that is. other item is that has gotten into your particular vehicle for example you may end up still with a door ding it doesn't maybe scratch the paint as bad as it would have otherwise but you're still going to have a ding when it's all said and done that ceramic coating is not going to keep a door ding from happening no there's no you're not strengthening the metal of the car by putting ceramic coating on it that's the best way to say it right exactly yeah it's a paint product it is nothing to do with the metallurgy of the car itself yeah I wish it did. Trust me, as a guy that is very particular about their vehicles, I wish it did, but it does not. Anyways, Mike in Westminster, you're first today. Go ahead.
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Hey, thanks so much for taking my call. Thanks, Mike. I have a 2019 F-150 Twin Turbo EcoBoost.
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Okay.
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And, you know, love the way it runs. I did have the initial problem that was covered under warranty with the, what do you call, phasers.
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Okay, cam phasers.
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Yeah, the engine would knock when you first started it. And so I took it in, and they took care of it. My question now is, I have a, what I'm going to call a little delay in the transmission. Now, I was told by somebody, I don't remember who, to make sure you have that tranny fluid replaced before 50,000 miles, and I did. I've got close to 53 on it now, so I've probably got about 5,000 miles on this oil. But what I'm finding is I'm getting this little delay in the morning when I shifted in and I tried to go into gear. It just kind of hesitates. I guess that's the word. It hesitates until it warms up. It just doesn't seem to... jump right between gears. And I know these transmissions, these 10 speeds, are not known for big reliability, I don't think. But I'm just wondering, what can I, what have I done? Was it good to change the transmission?
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fluid yes it is and my gut feeling is and i guess this would be the question would be have you had i mean has anybody looked at this yet to see is there any uh any updates is there any software updates or anything along those lines that have not been done yet or do you know because typically that's what's going on with that end of things
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Oh, okay. I have taken it to Ford. Not for this. The last time I took it was to have the fluid changed. I wanted them to do it because I was still under warranty. Okay.
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And they should have looked at them. I don't know why they didn't. There are some technical service bulletins and some software updates for that specific transmission that should have been performed. And frankly, Mike, they should have done that at that same time. But if you didn't say, you know, How should I say this? It should be automatic on the dealer side or even on the independent side, but it isn't always. It just depends on, I'll be honest, depends on the tech, how fast they're doing things that day, what other extra time they've got and so on. They may or may not have checked that, but that's the first thing I would look at.
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Okay. So I could actually just take it back.
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And that's a warranty issue as well. So what you're talking about on that, that TSB, they will do for free.
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Okay, so just tell them I want all TSPs.
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Yeah, just say, listen, I've got a delayed engagement problem. That's the technical term. So there's a delayed engagement problem. I know you guys have some technical service bulletins along these lines. Can you check to see if everything is up to date software-wise in my vehicle?
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Okay, okay. And the other issue is, you know, underneath this car is a lot of plastic. I noticed that I think the transmission pan... It's plastic, however, it's some kind of, I don't know.
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It's composite is what we call it. It's composite, yeah.
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Yeah, and it has fins in it, which I would imagine are for cooling.
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That's right.
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That is correct. Should I just bite the bullet and buy, just buy new pans, oil and or transmission pan and skid plate, by the way?
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If you wanted to upgrade the skid plate and do something heavier, that would be one thing to look at. As far as the transmission pan is concerned, unless you've done some huge performance upgrades to the transmission and you're looking to do a heavier cast aluminum pan that even has more cooling and that in it, I wouldn't mess with it, no, to be honest with you. If it's not leaking and everything's working, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Yeah, it's not leaking. Nothing's leaking. I just heard about people saying they warped.
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on them and uh you know well you'd and you it would if it if it had it leaked so you would know okay got no leaks so if it's good it's not leaking now as far as skid plates go this is true if any of you listening with trucks there's always the ability to upgrade you know skid plates and things like that and the way i would look at that mike would be only reason really ever to upgrade a skid plate is if you're somebody where you're doing some you know not heavy off-roading but even you know you're going you're your favorite fishing hole and there's a you know four-wheel drive road that you have to go on to get there and things along those lines honestly unless you're doing that no reason to upgrade skid plates either okay well mine's already broke once and that was just from ice on the road uh
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This is a family car, basically. There's not a lot of four-wheel impact going on with this.
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If you've had that issue already, which that's an anomaly. That typically doesn't happen either. But if that's the case, sure, you could upgrade to a heavier skid plate. Those are sold. Take one off, put a new one on sort of thing. You order it and put it on yourself sort of a thing. They're not that hard to do.
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Absolutely. Okay, any other recommendations for this year with, you know, 53,000 miles?
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No, you know, you were on target to do transmission. Did they look at transfer case and differential at the same time by chance or no?
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Good question. I'd have to look at the paper.
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Those need to be looked at as well and probably serviced here within the next 10,000 miles or so. And then you're going to want to do spark plugs in about 20.
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Ah, so about 70,000.
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Yeah, I wouldn't go any longer than that.
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Okay. All right. So these are not 100,000-mile plugs.
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They are not. Well, they are, and they'll run that long. The problem is when you start trying to get them out of the engine, and it's harder on the electrical components that are driving them, the resistance increases and so on. They'll run that long, yes, but is it the right thing to do? No.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I have noticed, if you have time, I don't want to hold you up.
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No, you're fine.
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Go ahead. Okay. So I would like to replace the plugs in this unit. and probably maybe next spring, you know, just to have it out of the way. Sure. Because I have noticed a tiny – occasionally I'll be sitting at a light and I'll hear a little miss, you know, like a little hesitation. And I'll be honest with you, when gas was super expensive, I didn't always keep premium in it. So now it's – I just filled up. Premium, you know, was $2.94 a gallon. Right. Way cheaper. Yeah, I'm willing to fill it up with premium. Sure. with that but when it was you know four dollars that's a little that's a little stiffer absolutely i know i hear you absolutely mike yeah yeah especially when i got the big tank the 30 you know that's right gallons was like oh man that's painful absolutely especially for retired guys so okay well that's pretty much oh i do have one question and just an opinion you don't have to whatever um I use Best Line products. Do you care for them, not care for them, what?
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I don't know the brand, to be honest with you. Is it the brand name Best Line? Best Line, yes. I don't know that brand, actually. I hate to say that, but I know most brands, but that one I do not know. What do they make, I guess is the question.
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Uh, it's a oil transmission and gas supplement. Not all, they're not, you know, not out of one bottle, of course. Got it. It comes in a base of, uh, 10 weight, so it's pretty much compatible with anything you use. And, uh... I put it in my old Lexus, and boy, it quieted it right down. It's just a really nice product, nano lube product.
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Again, given my history and experience with BG, I pretty much have stuck with their products throughout all of the years just because it's proven, and I've used it literally since I was a kid, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. So I've been using their product for 50-plus years. But that doesn't mean there's not other good products on the market, but this one I am not familiar with.
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Yeah, okay.
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Well, let's talk pickleball then. That I've never played, Mike, ever.
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Oh, you're missing out, buddy. I have never played it.
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I've watched people do it. I've seen the videos and had people talk to me about it and so on, but honestly, I've never played.
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I'm 71, and I'm having a blast with it.
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Good for you. It's getting popular. Yeah, I know it is. It's very popular. And you know what? Anything that gets us out and doing things, Mike, I'm all for. So congratulations, absolutely. Nothing wrong with that at all.
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That's it. Thank you so much, guys.
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SPEAKER 14 :
No, I haven't, but I wish I could.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, just martial arts. That's all I need. You know what I heard?
SPEAKER 14 :
I heard the emergency rooms, they're getting more people because of the pickleball now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Really? Yep. Okay. Yeah. For all of you listening, yeah, I've never done that. Somebody also said that they owned a Ford with a hesitation that they're trading off today. Okay. Well, you know, there's one answer to fix a problem. You just go get rid of the truck and go buy something else. So, yeah, that's always an option if that's something that you can do. Feel free. Again, question of the day is what's your wife's or your spouse's, I should say, because a lot of ladies listen to this show as well. But what is your spouse's, your other half's favorite car? 303-477-5600. Let's talk, though, for we kind of opened up the show talking about ceramic coating and just a lot of the misconceptions that are out there and i've had people that have texted me this where you know they're looking at a new car had somebody a few weeks ago that texted me and said hey i'm looking at a new truck and and uh you know the dealership's telling me that if i want a ceramic coated you know i can just wait a little bit wait an hour or so they'll ceramic coat it for me they want x amount of money out of it blah blah blah you know what are your thoughts i'm like run i'm like yeah no in fact i'm i'm sorry but i'm gonna say this anyways I wouldn't buy a truck there. That's just me. I wouldn't buy the truck there because they're not being honest with you on what ceramic coating even is. Now, maybe they're ignorant. Highly doubt it because there's enough material and enough information out there to really know what ceramic coating, true ceramic coating is versus what it isn't. And so my feeling is if you've got somebody at a dealership that's trying to upsell you on a ceramic coating at the time of your purchase, and they're going to go do that for you in the next hour and charge you whatever the money is, $800,000, $1,200, whatever the magic number is. I think in this case it was like $750 is what this particular texter was telling me. This was somebody up in Wyoming, by the way. It wasn't down here in the metro area. This was up in Wyoming. And my answer is I wouldn't buy the truck there. I'd go buy the truck someplace else because they're not being honest with you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Boy, if they're saying about $700 around there in a dealership, you know, in a brand new car, I will think twice about it.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what I mean? Yeah, because there's no – well, Roy, you can explain.
SPEAKER 14 :
Just the application of the ceramic coating probably is just $700, just the application. But – to make sure the ceramic coating bonds to the paint, to the clear coat, you gotta do a nice paint correction.
SPEAKER 08 :
You gotta prep it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, you gotta prep it. Right. And that's the... Main thing. On everything that you do, prepping is the... Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
It doesn't matter whether we're talking, you know, you're drywalling inside the house and you're doing everything underneath to make sure that it's nice and flat. So as you go put your tape and texture on, you know, you put your texture, I should say, and your paint on top. If the drywall itself underneath isn't nice, it's no different. It's the same situation here. So that prepping is a big deal. And I just know because I've seen what it takes to do this for all of you listening. There is no way. You can get a car. I don't care unless you had 10 guys working on an individual section of the car. But let me add a caveat to that. You could prep it maybe if you had X amount of people working on the car. You could get it prepped. But this is the other thing I know, and this is something, you know, Roy, you can talk to. The dry time alone on the correct ceramic coating, you can't do in an hour. Am I right? No, you can't. No. It won't dry in an hour is my point, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, it takes more than an hour to apply it. I mean, it's a few hours. Right. Yeah. And then you have the curing process.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which takes how long typically?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, the coating that we use, the curing process is about four to six weeks.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Total curing.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. But in our case, I mean, at the shop where we apply it, we have to leave the car inside for 24 hours.
SPEAKER 08 :
24 hours. Okay. So you really can't do anything with that car for at least a day? No. yeah okay three days I know I get it yeah but at least a minimum of 24 hours on the dry time on that coating just on its own right then and that by the way I also know that if you want double layer you want to do some things differently even in different parts of the car which for all of you listening yes there is that option you can layer this and even do that differently as well which again I guarantee you that dealership is not doing. That's something you guys do, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
That has to do with the coating that they're using, the brand. So the coating that we use is multi-layer. So we can put 10 layers, 15 layers, whatever you want. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's all about how much you want to spend.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. It's all about the money. Yeah. But yeah, you can do whatever you want, but it depends on the brand that you're using. Some ceramic coatings, they claim just one layer and that's it. That's how it is. You know what I mean? So it's more about the brand. So you're buying a new car and they offer to you a ceramic coating. So I recommend to do a little research about it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 08 :
Ask for the brand. Good idea. Those of you that maybe find yourself in that particular situation and maybe you're buying a car where they're telling you that it's already been done. Okay, what brand? Who did it? What's the warranty going to be on it? So on and so forth. Those are all questions you need to ask before you actually fork over the money for ceramic coating that I'll be straight up honest may have come out of a spray bottle. And for those of you listening, And there's a lot of spray bottle product on the market. And I'm not going to tell you that it's all bad, but it's not apples to apples. So let me just say it that way. You know, are some of the ceramic slash wax coatings better than just old straight car wax coatings? Probably, yes, depending upon the ingredients and so on. That's one of those things also you need to be very careful of. But in general, are they going to be better? Yes. Are they a true ceramic coating like what you guys at ProTech are putting on? The answer is no, they are not. No, they're not. It's not the same. It's not apples to apples. No, it's not the same. and and for those of you that want to know more about that what i would tell you to do is you know call uh roy and it's a at protec find out exactly you can come by the shop even they've typically got vehicles there that they're either working on or they have done you guys have got videos as well of cars that you have done some of those cars being you know mine that we've done you know together and things like that so there's There's ways to look at your specific vehicle and what do you want done, what are you trying to protect for, I guess you could also say at the end of the day. So, for example, are you trying to make it shinier so that as you go car shows and things like that, you just want a better product when it's all said and done? Are you using this as your daily driver and you're trying to protect from all of the road grime and grit and stuff that happens all year long, including the wintertime? In other words, what are you doing with the vehicle? Some of you guys that have pickup trucks that are in the construction, and keep in mind that for some of you where you're always worried about scratching the side of the bed or the tailgate where you're getting in and out of the truck a lot, you can PPF those areas. Most people don't realize that, but you can PPF those areas.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and maybe the ceramic coating is not going to work for that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
So you better go for the PPF.
SPEAKER 08 :
You may very well be better off doing it that way. For a lot of you guys that are working out of the truck, I would say that you would be best off to at least... ppf the the top third of the bed and for sure the tailgate if it were me working out of that truck on a daily basis that's something i would look at and for some of you you may want to go ahead and ppf the whole side bed depending upon what you're leaning against and how that's working and so on if you really want the truck to look nice and have good durable paint and have it last a long time and by the way get better value out of it when you go to trade the truck off I would probably PPF the entire sides and the tailgate. And for a lot of you listening, that's something that you probably have never heard because unless you're into kind of the exotic world, most people don't know you can PPF an entire car.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because most guys driving daily drivers don't PPF the entire car. But there's a lot of folks out there that have exotics, you know, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, things like that, where the entire car has been PPF to protect the paint across the entire spectrum of the car, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. And that's what we recommend. I mean, the most that we recommend is just to do the full front. I mean, we're talking about full hood, full fenders. Right. Front bumper.
SPEAKER 08 :
The whole nose of the car.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, the whole nose. Yeah. Windshield pillars. Right. Mirrors. The front of the roof. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, top layer. 12, 18 inches. Mirrors, all that, right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, where the rock chips get.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. All right. Again, those of you that are listening, what's the best way to get a hold of you guys at ProTech?
SPEAKER 11 :
What's the phone number? It's 720-382-8481.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Is that new? Is that a new number? That's what I thought. That's a new number. Okay. So get that number out again. Hang on.
SPEAKER 11 :
I've got to write this one down.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead. 720-382-8481.
SPEAKER 1 :
8481.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Let's do this before we go to our break. Bob and Lakewood, go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, John. Thanks for taking my call. Sure, Bob. Hey, buddy. I've talked to you several times, and I have one that's just driving me crazy. I have an 09 Chevy 2500 4x4 with a 6 liter. And I had called you before on this one. It started, this is several months ago, heard a chirping noise in the motor and took it to a shop. It's not one of your members' shops. It was another shop. And the guy says, oh, it's a bad rod bearing. I have a friend that's a mechanic. He builds race motors, and he's a machinist. I call him, and he come over, and he said, start it up. He listened to it for about three seconds and told me to turn it off. He says, no, it's not a bad rod bearing. He says, it's lifters. He says, a lot of those motors just have bad lifters. So, long story short... pulled the heads off, replaced all the lifters with Tooley Johnson lifters. He had to mill the heads. The one head had a slight hump in it, but he milled four thousandths off each head. Put the heads back together, used studs instead of the bolts, new bolts on the exhaust manifold, because he says that they have a stretch, and put it back together, started up, took it on I-70 up to Genesee, and It just ran like a top, and he was checking the side mirror at the time to see if there was any smoke, any blow-by or anything, and there was nothing. Come back home, parked it in front of the house, let it idle for a little bit, just heard like a kitten, shut it off, walked down my driveway to open up. I call it a shop, but it's kind of my wood shop. I'm actually more so than a mechanic. I went back out and started it up, and my gosh, John, you'd have thought the whole neighborhood caught on fire. It just started just burning oil like crazy. So I immediately backed it down the driveway, shut it off right away. Excuse me. We ended up pulling the intake back off of it, and it was full of oil. And when we tipped the intake up vertically, probably... I wouldn't say a quart, but over half a quart of oil poured out of the intake, and all the plugs were fouled. Any idea?
SPEAKER 08 :
All of them were fouled, not just one?
SPEAKER 04 :
Every single plug was fouled but one.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would probably lean towards, did we break a ring in that process of driving up the hill even and back and so on, and not that that's what caused it, but Did it just happen to be coincidental? Did we break a ring at the same time? That would be the first thing that I would look at. It's doubtful that you've got a valve seal or anything along those lines because typically, A, they won't burn as much oil as what you're talking about and would be more centralized to a specific cylinder, not so much across the board. When you break a ring, of course, it's going to give you all sorts of blow-by and it's going to blow oil all the way through, back up through the intake and everywhere. So you'll see it pretty much everywhere except for maybe the cylinder that it's happening in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gotcha. So his thought, and he's about going nuts trying to figure this out, he's wondering if because these manifolds are ABS, and being as the heads were milled four thousandths, it's changed the angle.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, typically that four thousandths isn't that much, and... And that intake, you know, the gaskets on it, well, of course, that one uses RTV anyway. So given the fact that that's what you're using to seal it back up, I would be hard-pressed to believe that's an issue.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
In other words, I don't think you're going to have to machine the intake to match the hedge. You haven't changed them that much.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Well, actually, like I said, he's a mechanic. He happened to have a brand-new intake. Okay. So his thought is that once we shut it off... and it cooled down, that that ABS changed. And that could be.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, keep in mind, Bob, that could just be from age of the intake, the fact you had it off and so on. It could be that you put a new intake on it, and it fixes it. Now, given the fact that you're where you're at right now with already doing the heads and everything else and not really knowing what's on the bottom end, and he's got an intake kicking around, as easy as that one is to change, I think I would do that before I did anything else.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gotcha. Okay, buddy, I just appreciate you.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're not out anything, really. I mean, since he's got it, you're not really out anything trying that and see what happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But my gut feeling is it broke a ring, but I could be wrong in that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gotcha. All right, John. Hey, once I figure it out, I'll call back. Yeah, let me know.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I'd love to know. And I don't remember, Bob, how many miles are on it?
SPEAKER 04 :
A little over 90, like 91,000.
SPEAKER 08 :
For that engine, that's not a lot. So, yeah, let me know what turns up. I would love to know.
SPEAKER 04 :
I sure will, John. Thank you so much. Well, thanks.
SPEAKER 08 :
We appreciate you very much. Thank you for that. Jeff, hang tight. We'll come right back to you. Got a question or a comment on ceramic coating as well. We'll come right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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And we are back, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening again. We've got the folks from Pro-Tech Auto Shield with us today, Roy and Dietze. Jeff and Golden, what's up, sir?
SPEAKER 16 :
How you doing, buddy? Good, Jeff. I'm good, good. So, yeah, I was calling. You know what's interesting on my end of the deal with the ceramic coating industry, I guess, is or something, I am highly, what do I say, marketed to. You know what I mean? I've got a detail on business here. It's about four years now, Rocky Mountain Auto Detail, blah, blah, blah, whatever website. But I get a lot of text now from these ceramic companies or whatever I don't ever know that, because there's never like a brand or anything, but there's, you know, like, hey, man, you know, how you doing? You want to make an extra, you know, 10 Lamborghinis? You know, blah, blah, blah. They're just these radical, okay, so you do know. All right, what is that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Those are typically, and I get that, by the way, not just in that business, but the other business I own, we get those sorts of things on a routine basis. Those are typically, and they're not all scams, by the way. Some of those are somewhat legit, although I say somewhat legit because those are typically what I call third-party fraud. brokers providers whatever you want to say so they're typically looking for somebody you know same thing by the way is happening in the construction world right now even in the roofing world where you'll find somebody that's out there advertising you know let us replace your roof we'll save you blah blah blah blah blah that is not a roofing company in most cases they are farming out and finding roofing companies that will do the job So they can pull their 20, 30 percent off of the top. You don't get as good of a roof as you would get going to a regular roofing contractor. The broker still makes their money when it's all said and done. They're a fly by night and they're gone. The same thing is happening with what you're talking about, Jeff. These are typically third party providers that have customers that need something done and they're looking for a provider. Okay, that's kind of what I was... And I'm not saying that they're not legit as far as that end of it goes, but it's really dicey on, okay, how do I get paid? Who's the actual customer? How am I going to handle warranties on down the road? On and on we go. It ends up being a hodgepodge that I would not go down that path of.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I don't respond to really any. I mean, I don't. I just don't respond to it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I get a ton of those in the other business because of the things we do there where people want X, Y, Z done. And the thing I've always tried to figure out is how do these guys get started in the first place? That's the thing I've never been able to figure out.
SPEAKER 11 :
So I actually read a story on Reddit about one of the detailers that actually responded to them. Okay. And I guess he had already paid like $1,300 to them, and he hadn't seen a single customer.
SPEAKER 08 :
So he was paying on the front side to get customers. Yeah, he was paying on the front side. Oh, that's really a bad deal. Yeah, you never want to do that. Yeah, that's a bad deal.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, so he was warning all the detailers.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a scam at that point. Absolutely. Yeah, that definitely makes me feel better about it. Yeah, do not, yeah. Jeff, on any of those, and by the way, all of you listening, one of the things I've had, you know, as I consult other businesses and stuff, Jeff, other industries, these same things can happen, and I am the first to tell my clients, run. Do not respond to any of those things at all. Typically, they are too good to be true. Let's just say it that way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
I get about two, three emails a week and about four or five text messages.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. They are. What's that old saying, Jeff? If it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Majority of what we're doing is the interiors. It seems like, man, the interiors is what need the help on all these cars. And it's like, I've been battling with the, you know what I mean? What you need is the higher, I'll tell you what, to get a car, a good interior car clean, what it takes is air pressure. Like you need more, you've never had a big enough air compressor, you know what I mean, to clean a car right. I mean, to get in there to blast, because you can with those, that little oscillating tips and stuff like that, you can just blast the stuff out of there, you know, dog hair and everything like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
A few places, as we're talking on Fix-It Radio, one of the few places you actually still use compressed air, that collision centers and so on. Mechanical shops, it's going the other direction. They're using less and less air as time goes by.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep. Yeah, that's the one thing I was like, when you're talking about those tools, I was like, boy, that air, what I do to clean the cars, I was like, man, that's one thing that you won't replace unless you get an electric... It's already an electric. Yeah, what am I saying?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, I mean, we always say never say never because as time goes by and different technologies come along, they may end up doing that different ways. But, no, there are still things, even my own shop at home, where air is still the only way to go. It's all I've got, yeah. Sandblasting, for example, Jeff, there's no other thing I can use to bead blast and take care of something like you can with compressed air. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you know, I'll give you a little, yesterday my dad and I watched, I pulled up, do you know the, I always pronounce the guy's name, but it's the camp, Ed Eskiderian.
SPEAKER 08 :
Eskiderian, yep, Esky Camps.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. Do you see familiar the guy? You know, he just turned 104.
SPEAKER 08 :
I saw that. I saw a post yesterday on social media. I think it was either yesterday or Thursday where I saw that. I think it was yesterday, Jeff, where I saw that. It's amazing, actually.
SPEAKER 16 :
And he still goes to work every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Still working in the plant. Go figure.
SPEAKER 16 :
He still works. There's an interview. I just sat and watched with my old man. My dad's 84 years old, right? He is a part of racing history around here. And he owned those cams, and his roundy round and his drag car.
SPEAKER 08 :
A lot of guys own those, Jeff, and still do, as you know.
SPEAKER 16 :
They did, yeah. And I didn't know, really, the story of the guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I must have seen that Thursday, because his birthday is the 10th, so I must have been watching that on Thursday.
SPEAKER 16 :
Have you seen the vid that now, I went on the dive, you know what I mean, YouTube, and there's a great... interview with him that's about 30 minutes that no i have not seen that i'll have to go look that up i will now that you've mentioned that i will for sure do you want it it's like how many it's almost like watching a man describe well basically you're going to listen to a man describe the birth of of uh very so many things of automotive you know nascar those are those are cool those are cool it's amazing to listen to him talk about it because he sits there and talks about hopping up a model t yep And he has such knowledge of the Model T and how they made them go faster and how fast they went. It's just, John, you'll, yeah, I guess it gives me shivers. I mean, you've got to listen to this article or the interview with him. It's incredible.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so I have something. Since you're on that track, Jeff, and today will be a little less call-wise just because of how nice it is outside. So here's a question for you, and I'll ask Roy and Dietze. Do you know where the term hot rod came from, Jeff?
SPEAKER 16 :
think I have heard it I'm trying to think there's one that I just learned the drag I just learned where drag came from he taught me this one but I don't uh the drag race not drag drag race you know how that became a thing uh but hot rod hot rod uh No, you'd have to tell me that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I read this one this morning because I didn't know this either. So the term hot rod came from kicking out the bore or the valve size on a flathead engine is limited because with the flathead, you can't go that far because it's a flathead engine. So, a good way to extract more power was to grind the rod journals off-center further away from the center point of the main, so you make the rod journal smaller. This increased the throw. You can do that with small block Chevy, by the way. Giving you a longer stroke, so it made more power at a lower RPM while simultaneously increasing the compression, so you could get more horsepower by using, you know, pump gas. Yeah. The smaller rod journals were slipperier and sapped less horsepower, though it was probably minimal. It made the rods hotter, so it became known as hot-rodding a flathead V8.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so I watched a video not that long ago, I think it was like two weeks ago, where they explained all that, and it was like, because it would use to release energy, because you know the energy had to go somewhere. That's right, that's right. But I didn't know that's why it was called that.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that's where the term hot rod comes from. That makes sense. Which I did not know until today, Jeff. Nice.
SPEAKER 16 :
How about, well, okay, the word, you know, to go drag racing. Okay, we're going to go drag racing. Let's go drag. Where did that, how did that?
SPEAKER 08 :
That I don't know. That one I don't know either.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'll ruin your, you've got to watch the video with this Ed Escudero. This is one I'll just ruin. I'll ruin it. Spoiler alert, but. So he said what it is is the old boys, what they did before, they had horses, and they were plowing with their horses out there. And so sometimes they would, you know, my horse can do 20 acres in 30 minutes, Chuck. You know, whatever. Oh, yeah, well, you know, Bessie did it half that time last time, whatever. They would start to.
SPEAKER 08 :
compare their horses i did not know that they would drag yeah they were drag racing makes sense i had no idea jeff no idea now you know no very cool no those to me and maybe it's just because i'm getting older and i find those things fascinating but that that interview with uh with this good area and I will definitely watch because to me it's just cool to listen to some of those stories and how things were really quote-unquote birthed. And really quick, on a serious note, and I mean all of this is serious, but on a real serious note, I don't think the average person, the average driver maybe is the best way for me to say this, Jeff, really understands how the racing end of things guys like you know grumpy jenkins and escudarian and a lot of others i don't think any of them really understand how much positive effect they had on the whole motoring world by by what they were doing with hot rodding and and you know increasing horsepower and drag coefficient and and and i mean all the things those guys did through all of those years got us to where we are today it what in as much as i credit the engineers at the factories and so on and they're great but it's really those racing teams and the racers and engineers you know in that world that have really made the car what it is today in my opinion
SPEAKER 16 :
He was going on about the, they go into the, it's the lake beds. It's all about Los Angeles because he's from L.A.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that's what's amazing. It's that whole L.A., downtown L.A. was so about the car then.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it was the racing ruled that city.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it's amazing how it's almost changed now.
SPEAKER 01 :
And it's spread coast to coast. Yep, that's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's crazy how it changed in that town. But that's, yeah, and they would go out 100 miles east, he was saying, out, and they had big, long lake beds. And they just would go out there and just let it just wide open, wide open. And then there was like, they put, he said, you know, like the gas stations, they have the ding-ding when you come to the gas station or whatever. They would lay those out there. but they would split them up, you know, like a half a mile apart or whatever, and then it would be like rolling start drag races.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
And they would be running those Model Ts, you know what I mean, at 140 mile an hour. That's fast for a Model T. That's what they did, 140. Holy shnikes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow. Wow, holy shnikes. Almost. Good. Jeff, man, I've got to run to a break, but I appreciate it. That's all good stuff. Thanks for the memories. Yeah, buddy. All right, man, take care. We'll be back here in just one moment. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, Roy and Dietze, both from ProTech AutoShield with us today. We spent some time during this hour talking about ceramic coating. We'll get into window tint and paint protection film and all of that as well today. One thing, though, I wanted to mention while we still have some time right now is with it being really hot out right now. Now, it's not always hot. Mornings are a little cool. Last night was really nice, by the way. It was a really nice evening and nice, cool morning this morning. And something to remember, if you're maybe new to the automotive world or you're new to even having a newer car and you're taking care of it yourself when you're washing and so on, keep in mind that you do not want to wash a car. In the middle of a day, in hot, direct sunlight, you could end up doing as much damage to the car with the soap drying on the surface as you would if you didn't wash it at all. And I mean that as seriously as I can. You want to try your very best to avoid washing a car in direct sunlight when it's 95 degrees outside. You're not doing yourselves any good in doing that. Now, if you can find some shade, get out of the direct sunlight, something along those lines, sure, that's not a problem. But you do not want to be washing that car in direct sunlight with soap because you can end up having just as much issues afterwards because the water spots and such that can come from that will be just as bad as if you left it alone. Am I right in that?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, you're right. Absolutely right. I mean, you don't want to deal with water spots.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're hard to get out.
SPEAKER 14 :
They're really hard. Now you're going to have to do some polishing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and for some of you, depending upon your water quality, which is not equal from city to city to city, and some of you have wells and so on, you really have to be careful because those water spots, to Roy's point, they can be just as hard to get out as anything else.
SPEAKER 14 :
Unless you're using filter water, like deionized water. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which a lot of car washes use, by the way. Not all, but a lot do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. But, I mean, if you don't have that, I don't recommend you to do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, your best thing this time of the year when it comes to washing a car is wait until late evening when the sun's partially down and you don't have that direct sunlight or early morning where even if you have a little bit of direct sunlight, it's still really nice outside. It's nice and cool. You don't have those midday rays that are beating down. The biggest thing you want to do is make sure that things aren't drying. before you can get it totally rinsed and then you start drying off the car you don't want an air drying because that's where the water spots come from yeah right and by the way for a lot of you listening this can happen depending upon the water hardness and so on it can affect more than just paint it can affect chrome on the car it can affect the glass on the car it can affect a lot of things it's not just the paint that we're talking about here where you can have negative effects right yeah
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
It'll etch the glass even. And I will tell you this. Water spots etched in on the glass, let's just say that it's easier to get the water spots out of the paint than it is to get them out of the glass. Am I right, Roy?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, no, you're right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely right. It does something to the glass to where you just can't hardly get those water spots back out. I don't want to say it's impossible, but it is darn near.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it depends on the glass. The glass has a lot of pores, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so we've got a minute left here. Ceramic coating. Can you do the glass? Does it help the glass if you ceramic coat that?
SPEAKER 14 :
How does that work? You can do glass. You can do everything on the vehicle. Plastic, glass, all the paint, obviously. Headlights, headlights, all that. The brand that we use, we have a special coating for every specific area.
SPEAKER 08 :
So if you've got headlights and taillights and things along those lines, you can use it for all of that as well. What about interior?
SPEAKER 14 :
Same thing. We have a ceramic coating just for the interior for leather, plastic, and all that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so for those of you listening.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wheels and calipers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, really?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay. Keep the dust and all that. So when you go to wash them, all the dust and everything comes off way easier when you do that. Yes. Ah, okay. Makes total sense. So, again, for those of you listening where you've got maybe a car that you're either redoing or you've bought a new car, you're thinking about buying a new car, you've got an exotic car, you want something done a little different to it than what you've been used to. And I'll just say this. You want to make life easier in owning that car? Go see Roy and Dietze. Do these things. If you don't do anything else, even if you don't do PPF or window tinting, but you just do the ceramic coating, I will tell you that it will make your life easier. That much more happy and easier when it's all said and done. This is the voice of experience talking along those lines. So any questions, by the way, for Roy or Dietze? We've got two more hours left. 303-477-5600. You can call them directly at? 720-382-8182. All right. We'll be right back, guys. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 09 :
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Join Drive Radio for an insightful discussion on ceramic coatings and paint protection films (PPF) with automotive experts Roy and Dietze from ProTech Auto Shield. We tackle the nuanced differences between brands and how dealerships might lead you to believe you're getting a top-quality product when you could be paying for less. Equip yourself with the knowledge to better negotiate and choose the best for your vehicle, whether it comes to PPF or ceramic coating options.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thank you all for joining us. Roy and Dietze from ProTech Auto Shield with us today. We've been talking during the first hour about ceramic coating and things along those lines. I did get a text message that came in that said entire vehicle except the roof is PPF. Are any of the spray waxes that you can use today better than the waxes of old on top of the PPF? Or I said, you know, you can actually ceramic coat the PPF, which is probably what I would do. And that's what I recommend. That's what I would do versus trying to wax a PPF.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's the nice of a PPF. You can do – I mean, you can't – I mean – You can't stop doing whatever you want to do with the car. I mean, actually, it's better because you can scrub it. If you're washing the car, you can use a brush. You can use whatever you want. It's all PPF. And it's all PPF. And then you can still apply wax on top of that or ceramic coating, which is what I recommend, the ceramic coating.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so walk me through, because I think this is the other misconception that's out there. Like everything out there, and you would think most people would understand this, although unless we explain it, most wouldn't. Is there a quality difference in PPF from one even brand to another? Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know what you've told me in the past. Yes. Yeah, I mean, through the years, I mean, technology is getting better and better. Okay. You know what I mean? So, and right now, can I mention brands? Sure, yeah. I mean... 3M used to be one of the best. Used to be on the top, right? Yeah, it used to be on the top. And nowadays, I mean, we have a lot of brands, I mean, different brands, which combines the technology. I mean, they're pretty good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, competition breeds more excellence, so that's a good thing. The more the merrier, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Santec, Lumer, which is the same company, you got Expel, you got 3M, and other brands. Personally, I really like, I mean, Expel, which is my main... For PPF and window tint, right? PPF and window tint, what we use at our shop.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And why is that? Why do you like... Explain why you like their product better than somebody else's.
SPEAKER 08 :
This company just do the PPF and window film. That's it. Yeah, and they're doing ceramic coatings too. Okay. But 3M, let's compare it with 3M. 3M, they do everything. Right. So for some reason, they got a little behind on the PPF part.
SPEAKER 07 :
Even though they were one of the originators of, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, personally, I mean, they're still making a really good film. Okay. It's just, I mean, the adhesive and all that is very aggressive. Meaning, when you go to do a repair or take it off... Removing the PPF, I mean, you leave a lot of adhesive. I mean, even for the installer, for the installation process...
SPEAKER 07 :
it takes longer I mean it's it's just more they are I mean the adhesive I mean it's just to agree agree aggressive aggressive yeah okay so it's an aggressive adhesive making it harder to work with going on also making it harder to work with coming back off because folks listening you guys all know this things can happen You can have an issue where there needs to be a repair made or something to that effect. And in that case, you're going to be redoing that particular area of PPF, meaning it has to come off and go back on, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
And not just that. PPF has a warranty. So after most of it's like 10 to 12 years. So once that time comes, you have to remove it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so you're going to be taking it off and redoing it at that time. Yeah. Or it starts to get yellow and can cause other issues and so on. Am I thinking correctly along those lines?
SPEAKER 15 :
It depends on the quality of the film, but yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so that was the other thing I was going to ask you guys, the quality of the film, because there's... again going back into the conversation i've had a couple of text messages on this when it comes to the dealership level of things and i until meeting you guys i didn't know this i thought you know i thought ppf was clear bob was clear bob was clear broad i mean i should have known that there's a difference in quality but again not being in that world i wasn't really aware of the differences in quality even in regard to the self-healing properties the mill thickness the anti-yellowing and so on there's a big difference in all of that from one product to another correct
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's correct. So every company, they have like two or three different levels of PPF.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which is, I mean, like you have the cheap.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which in a lot of cases, when you go to the dealership and they're telling you that we've, you know, we've clear broad this car, we've PPF'd it, or we've done this, or we've done that. Chances are, not always, but chances are they're probably using the lesser quality film because their cost is less, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a lot of dealerships in... Even PPF, Chops, I mean, they offer, oh, we use 3M products. Okay. But they don't tell you which one.
SPEAKER 01 :
Which level of 3M product.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which level are you using. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
They have the cheapest one, which is a three, five-year warranty. And then they have the other one with no top coat. You know what I mean? And you never know. So they just tell you the name, 3M, and you think. You think good quality. Good quality is the best.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because you think that's where I've gotten other products from, adhesives and so on. So if they're using 3M, then it's got to be top quality product. But they have a good, better, best just like anybody else has, is what you're saying, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER 15 :
And even sales reps, when they come to sell us their product, they'll tell you, like, oh, you know, like, use this one for your customers. And then you can use this lower brand to sell to the dealerships. So they even advertise it that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
So they even are telling the providers, here's what you can use for your customer pay person that walks in the door and has top level versus what you're going to go resell to the dealership because you can get the cost down knowing the dealership is going to mark that up. And by the way, this is how this works, folks. So at the end of the day, that person that comes in, we'll just use round numbers. Let's say that person comes in. and the ppf is a thousand dollars okay i'm just going to use round numbers to make this easy so they come into protec it's a thousand bucks well let's say they go to the dealership and do the same install it's 700 but the customer buying the car is still paying the thousand the problem is the same thousand dollars is not the same product at the end of the day even though it's the same thousand dollars because of the markup that the dealership had to have in that to make that and i'm not against this this is how they make money i I understand that part of it, but what I'm trying to train all of you on is it's not apples to apples because what that dealership is selling is typically, to Dietz's point, a lower quality product that's now being marked up that you could go right to the horse's mouth, quote unquote, right to the installer and actually get a higher quality product for the same price. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, here's the big difference. This is why dealerships are able to do this. At the dealership, they're wrapping all of that into the price of the car, and you're financing it. So unfortunately, you're not even paying $1,000. You're paying $1,000 plus interest for that particular install where you could use your whatever, your credit card or whatever you want to do, and go to ProTech and have the same job done for that actual $1,000, get a higher quality product done, save money on your monthly payments because that's not going to get wrapped into the price of the car. And away you go. But that's how these dealerships are selling that is they're wrapping all of that, the PPF, the window tinting, the floor mats, the whatever. They're throwing all of that into the deal and financing it for you. And by the way, they're making money on the financing as well. So they're double dipping because they're making money on the upcharge of what the PPF actually cost or the ceramic coat or whatever it was. Plus, they're making money on the financing side of that as well. So they're double dipping, if you would.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I'm not against them. Those of you that are in the dealer world that are listening to me, I'm not against you guys. I don't know dealership guys. I get messages from you all. I know you're listening and that's fine. I'm not against you. I'm just trying to explain to the average person and driver out there how this all works. And there are choices. They can go and get these things done on their own. You don't have to have it all wrapped into the deal. And at the end of the day, you're typically going to get a higher quality product doing it on your own than letting the dealership do it for you. That's my point. Now, you could also tell the dealer, listen, I don't want your general run-of-the-mill stuff. If you're going to get this done for me, yes, I want to be able to finance this into the package of the car, but I want the highest quality product of what your installer is offering, not the normal dealership cheap level product that you're probably getting right now. Does that make sense? Yeah. and you can you could you could ask that and just see how how that goes now typically uh they should work with you on that and they're going to want to have the deal done but you've got to ask some of these questions on the front side and by the way most people out there buying cars right now and there's dealerships right to the west of us where there's people down there right now as i speak buying cars that have no idea what i just said because they're not listening to us they should be mike you're next go ahead
SPEAKER 09 :
Hello, Mike. Oh, hey. Sorry. That's okay. I have to stand right in the proper spot of the house or my phone doesn't work.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, technology. It's either good or bad. Is that the way to say it, Mike?
SPEAKER 09 :
So, yeah. So, for your guest today, I'm going to give you a couple of questions and then I don't have to hang on. I'll just listen on the radio.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, perfect. We can do it. I'll tell you what, Mike. Let's do this because we're up against a break. Throw us your questions, and then we'll come back and answer them. That's a great way to do it. So absolutely, go ahead. Shoot.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Talk about using leather. Back in the old days, when I was a kid, we used a chamois leather for drying. WD-40. Here's a tip I learned because we used to have five rental homes. WD-40.
SPEAKER 07 :
okay and i think i got that when you're breaking up a little bit but talk about a we're going to talk about chamois versus other ways to dry and then wd-40 on glass even removing soap scum stains things along those lines did i hear that correctly mike Still losing you. I tell you what, let me do this, Mike, because I want to get all your questions answered. I'm going to put him on hold. Let's see during the break here, Larry, if we can get him in a better spot and get those questions dialed in because I think I've got those right, but I want to make sure that those are correct in fact. We'll be right back here in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Mike, go ahead. I apologize. You were breaking up. What I got was the chamois question to start with, but then you were breaking up on the WD-40 question. So hit us again on that one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, WD-40. It takes off when you have water drop mineralization. On your windshield, I think that WD-40 is the perfect thing to handle that situation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'll let you visit about that later. I ask about radiator flush. Your favorite brand, such as if I want a do-it-yourself. Do you have a favorite brand? I know you like the K2 made by Blue Devil for repairing the radiator.
SPEAKER 07 :
And BG on the radiator flush makes probably the best product for that. You can buy that at the Napa stores.
SPEAKER 09 :
And then you can talk about this later also because I'd be listening. are they placing out the green entries and wanting us all to go to yellow? Yes. Oh, interesting. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. Yes is the standard answer, mainly because of the types of metallurgy that are in all of the engines. They're getting very specific on the type of coolant each manufacturer wants you to use according to what they're doing. So GM has their DEX cool. Toyota has their particular product. On down the line we go.
SPEAKER 09 :
So let me ask you this. I heard this. You mentioned this in just the last week. I heard you say this. The radiator test strips, they do have an expiration date on them. They do. And so I went and I checked my bottle. My little bottle of test strips is from 2008. So is that a little – that's when it was supposed to expire?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a little old. Yeah, I would buy new ones on that, yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow, I've got to go spend like $6.
SPEAKER 07 :
And they do that, and just for everybody listening, they do that, and the same thing happens on test trips for your pool or your hot tub or whatever. They do that because over time, they will degrade. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I got to do that then. I knew I had one more question, but I'll let you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
No worries. No, we'll answer those. No, Mike, appreciate it. Okay, so let's start with the – we've got a review we're going to do here in a moment, but let's start with the drawing sides of things. This is something we haven't talked a ton about on, you know, you get a car all washed, everything's all dialed in. What's the proper way to drive? Mike's question was back in the day when I grew up, all we had were chamois. Me too. There wasn't really anything else that had been invented. In fact, I still to this day – have one of the old Maytag roller, what do you want to call it, where basically it's an old washing machine that just has the tub, it has the rollers on it, where you use that to actually wring out, it's got a wringer on it is what I'm trying to say, make sure you don't get your fingers caught in that, but we used to use that to actually dry out the chamois, because when I was a kid, that's all we had to dry with. I haven't drugged that machine out for quite some time because there's newer products out now that allow you to dry the car easier. One of those being, for all of you listening, is forced air, which if you've got an exotic car with really nice paint or a car just with really nice paint in general, I will tell you that air drying with a blower is probably one of the best ways to do it, right? One of the best ways, yeah. Just works.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it works. I mean, better than the chamois, better than a microfiber rack. All of that. You know what I mean? That's the best way to dry your car.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and what I would suggest is blow it off. A lot of you even have handheld blowers, like a backpack-type blower only in a handheld version. You have to be careful not to get the tube against the car, of course. But if you've got the ability to blow the water off of the car, compressed air, anything along those lines, that's a great way to do it. So I would do that. Use your microfiber towel or something along those lines around some of the edges where you might not be able to get everything all blown out nice. But that's what I would do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, if you don't have access to an air blower or whatever, use a microfiber rack.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Like we're looking about to dry your vehicle. 500, 600 GSM. That's the scale. Okay. Microfiber for drying. Okay. That's a good rack.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. So that's the proper way to do that. So, Mike, if you're listening, not that chamois aren't. The problem with chamois is it's just hard to get them wrung out. I mean, they worked back in the day. They were awesome. They are expensive, as you guys all know. So buying, you know, even back in the day, I can remember being young in my teens and And the detail guy would roll around. And even at that time, a really good chamois was $40, $50. I mean, this was back in the 80s. It was that much money. Good chamois, yeah. A good chamois was that much money. So think about what that cost would be. And I don't know if they've gotten any cheaper. There's synthetic versions now. Now, for a lot of you that if you're... you're just your daily driver and you're looking for a good dryer and i've used these for years and they're great they're not perfect but they work pretty well and that's the brand absorber and they're nice where you could actually throw one of those in the door pocket where if you go to a car wash in the winter and you've done your underneath and you're just trying to get the rest of it dried off and You're not at home, but you're wanting to get some of that off so it doesn't potentially – which a car wash shouldn't water spot because it's filtered water. But if you want to get some of the excess water off, nothing wrong with an absorber. They work really well. The other nice thing about an absorber is you can use it inside on the screen of your car so that it doesn't mess up the radio screen or anything like that. It's a – It's not really a microfiber, but it's not a chamois. Think of it as a synthetic chamois. They've been around for years. They don't work half bad as long as you keep them clean. That's, by the way, true with any of these things. It's a one-time use, then wash it after you're done. You don't want to reuse it, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I was going to mention that. I remember years ago when I was still using the chamois. We use it. I mean, we use it. We dry the car, and then we wash it right away.
SPEAKER 07 :
And back then, there was even chamois soap that we would use to actually wash the chamois with because that's the era that, again, as you guys all know, that's the era that I grew up in because we didn't have ceramic. I mean, even the waxes we had back then aren't what we – well, the paint wasn't even what we have today. Everything is different today from what it was at that time. All right, we're going to do a car review here in a moment. Before that, though, Conrad, let's slip you in before we do that. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
How's it going, guys? Good. Good show. My favorite car, of course, is her Camaro Rally Sport that she has, so that answers that question.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And my question today is that we're thinking about maybe moving to a different house, and it's got a really awesome garage, and the ceiling's like 10 feet 7 inches from the floor to the ceiling.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I'm wanting to put a floor lift in there to lift cars up on to change oil and whatnot. Okay. And I was looking at some online there, and I found one I think will fit. But I just wanted to ask you, John, is what brand do you recommend of the two posts? It has about 10,000-pound capacity. What brand do you use?
SPEAKER 07 :
For me, if you're doing 10,000-pound, I would either look at – and Napa, by the way, sells all these. You can buy them direct from the Napa store. Rotary, Challenger is another good lift. Typically, anything that Napa's going to have in their line, I would not hesitate to buy. Where I would be hesitant to buy is some of the off-brand stuff that you see listed online and so on. On a two-post especially, I would be really leery of buying somebody's Chinese import two-post Lyft. Conrad and on a two-post lift when you go to install those the biggest thing on that too is while you might have ceiling height and 10 is minimal you'll be squatting underneath that car at 10 feet because you won't get it up high enough to be able to stand up underneath the car you need about 14 foot clearance on a ceiling to really be able to lift a car up and walk underneath it so 10 you're going to be about four foot short of that. So just think that you may be on, you may be still underneath the car, but you may be sitting on a roll-around stool or something along those lines. Still would work. Your post won't be 10 feet high, so you can still get the car, you can still get the rack mounted. But your biggest thing in that, you've got to double-check, Conrad, is you'll probably have to drill a hole for this, but you've got to check and see how thick your concrete is.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, put footers down, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, depending upon where that lift is going and so on, because the last thing you want, and you all have seen pictures of this, where somebody puts a rack in, they bolt it to the floor, put the hilties down into the floor, and the entire floor breaks out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I don't want that to happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
It can happen.
SPEAKER 10 :
But is there a company that could do that?
SPEAKER 07 :
If you contact NAPA, they actually have a, in our area here, they've actually got through the tool division installers that will put that in for you also. So that's why I would, in your case, I'd go to NAPA and have them help you with a whole nine yards.
SPEAKER 10 :
I thought about Napa, too, Johnson, but I wanted to double-check.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, they can do the whole thing for you.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know your knowledge a little about all this stuff. All right.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, Conrad. Appreciate you very much. Have a great rest of your day. We've got a car review coming up next. We'll be back right after that. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And it's that time of the week where we do new car reviews. We've got a couple to do this week, Richard. We both were in both of these vehicles, but I'll start with the 2025 Santa Cruz. And I will say that's a Hyundai Santa Cruz is what I should say. We drove the limited all-wheel drive. This vehicle came in at a... A Monroney price of $4,500, fully equipped. And I've talked about this vehicle on Drive Radio numerous times because people will call in and ask, you know, what do I get? You know, what options do I have? I don't want to buy a full-size, you know, pickup truck or, you know, the medium-sized pickup trucks like... You know, Tundra and Colorado and Ranger, you know, what what other alternatives are there? I just need to pick up bed for some things periodically. Well, the Santa Cruz has got you covered. And what I mean by that is even the load itself. It comes with a retractable cover on the back, Richard. So it's much like think of it this way. It's like having. an SUV only with the ability to put a lot taller stuff in the back, yet having all of the same interior creature comforts you would get out of an SUV with the same power of an SUV, all-wheel drive. And I will say, if there's anything about this car, Richard, that I really enjoyed is, A, it's very comfortable, very quiet, and it runs fabulous.
SPEAKER 04 :
It does. It is a fabulous running vehicle with that turbocharged engine, especially, as we always say, Dad, At our altitude. Correct. It just works great. And you said it best. It is a small SUV, basically with no back end, which gives you some extra functionality, right? Because you can put some taller things in there, as long as they're not super heavy, right? This is not a, you know, full, you know, half-ton, three-quarters-ton, one-ton pickup, right? This thing's not hauling several thousand pounds. No, that's right. However, it's not meant to be. But if you do, you know, you did go pick up, I'll be honest, I actually picked up a safety the other day, 500 pounds. This vehicle would haul that. I think it has a max payload of about 1,400 pounds. Yep, it would haul it just fine.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you could stand it up and you could put tie-downs on it. Ours did come with a really nice locking kind of a built-in tonneau cover, right? Yes. You could put some stuff in the back. It was easy to pull and easy to slide, which made it easy. There is some storage in the bed compartment. It is not an overly large vehicle. vehicle truck because it is a truck on the inside at least for the backseat passengers the front passengers are just fine however dad if you're looking for a lot of the creature comfort that comes standard and as you mentioned all-wheel drive this is a vehicle for you right
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it's got everything that you could ever want in that size of vehicle. And for those of you listening, yes, this competes with like the Ford Maverick. The Ford Maverick, I should say. The Honda Ridgeline is a little bit larger vehicle. Now, I'm going to say this, and Hyundai, I know you hear all these reviews. Here's my only complaint. I think it's a little bit high-priced for what you get at the end of the day. And let me explain, folks, when I say that. This particular vehicle, granted, this was the upper end, and it's in the low 40s, 42,500. You can spend about $4,000 more. and buy a Honda Ridgeline. Nothing against this particular vehicle. So, again, Hyundai will listen to this. But great vehicle, Hyundai. But I think when you're trying to compete in the marketplace and have an edge, that price difference, in my opinion, Richard, needs to be a little bit farther apart. That's my only, literally, that is my only negative with this car. It's one of the first things I even told my wife when I got in it. Outside of that, is this a car I would own? Absolutely. I just wish the price was a little lower, Richard.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, well, and with that price increase, if you're wondering what do I get, you get some more creature comforts, right? You get a little bit more. The touchscreen on the side is a little bit different than some of its competitors. Some more creature comforts as far as, I think, heated and ventilated front seats, if I'm not mistaken, Dan. You get some of those extra features that maybe you deem as more important to you and you would rather have than more room. So if this sounds interesting, folks, It really is an interesting car and truck if you haven't seen them. Head to your local Hyundai dealer, check it out. Again, 2025 Hyundai Santa Cruz, and let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And again, Roy and Dietze, both from ProTech Auto Shield, with us today. And follow up on a couple of the questions we had a moment ago from Mike and Conrad. Thanks, by the way. And let me start with Conrad first. For all of you listening, if you've got the ability, the ceiling height, you maybe have a little bit bigger shop or barn, or some of these lifts now will even go inside of a regular garage, as long as you have a high enough ceiling to where you can turn a... you know three-car garage into a four-car garage because you can double stack cars in doing so so if you've got the ability to put one of the we call them homeowner type units but if you've got the ability to put a homeowner unit you know lift into where you can raise one car and drive under it and park the other one knock your socks off it gives you one more parking place that you wouldn't have otherwise for for a lot less money than adding on to your house to get an extra space out of it is my point.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
You can put a lift in like that installed for probably $6,000 or so new, and there's used one of those even available. So if you think about $6,000 to be able to park another car in your garage versus adding on, add a zero to that six if you do an add-on, that's probably on the minimal side. $60,000 to add on. It's worth it. So yeah, that lift... enabling you to raise your car up and park under it and also be able to do oil changes and other things along those lines on that same lift. Yeah, it makes it really, really versatile. Now, here's the nuts and bolts on the homeowner-type car. units versus a production unit that you would have in a regular shop and it really comes down to not the heaviness of the lift and what it's able to lift and so on because if it's rated for a certain rating it'll lift that so if it says that it's a you know 10 000 pound drive on lift and you can park under it it's rated for 10 000 pounds now where you start running into two uh differences is maybe the best way for me to say that is speed for example In my shop at home, I've got some of these lifts that we're talking about where I double stack and I park under them. The downside is, and they do exactly what we're talking about, you can drive on them, change oil. They've even got the rolling jacks where if you want to raise the car up on the lift itself, on the drive-on lift, you can do all of that. But for me, my frustrating part with these particular lifts is because of what I've always done in my background is they're slower than Christmas going up and down. because they're a homeowner unit and they're usually driven off of 120 volt, not 240 volt. They are literally slower than Christmas. So in my case, I'm so used to a rack, just, you know, you push a button and up it goes and then down it goes and you can work on it. And if you've got to go up and down, it's so simple and easy. Mine, literally, I think I could drink a cup of coffee while the thing raises up.
SPEAKER 01 :
And I'm not exaggerating.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's that slow. That's the downside to a homeowner unit to a regular shop production unit. They both will do the same thing at the end of the day, but the speed in doing it isn't the same. Now, for most of us at home, and even me, I just have to remember to be a little... Even my wife's like, hey, what's the big deal? Just cool your jets and take your time. Well, I got stuff to do. I mean, I'm wanting that thing to go up, and I got other things to do. That's the downside to the homeowner units is they're just not as fast as... as what a regular production two-post, four-post lift. Now, back to really quick, I wanted to add this in to what Conrad was saying earlier as well. So on the two-post lifts, and this is something to think about for all of you if you're thinking about doing one at home. Depending upon what you're lifting, if you're lifting a full-size F-250, 350, big truck, buy a regular two-post lift. But if you're not, and if you're just doing regular cars and even a half-ton truck, a 1500 series truck, buy what they call the isometric lift. So an isometric lift is the posts are tilted. One arm is really short. The other arm is really long on each side. And it enables you to open the doors all the way on a two-post lift, which on a regular two-post lift, because the doors are right where the posts are, you can't do. And the reason I say that is because your chances of banging the doors, getting in and out of the car once it's even on the rack on an isometric lift are way less than it is on a regular two-post lift downside is you can't lift as much and they're not as stable as they are on a regular you know the isometrics aren't as stable on a larger vehicle so for example back in the day when i had my shops i had a combination of some some stalls i had isometric lifts in some stalls i had regular lifts in because we did a lot of truck work as well and we wouldn't put on an isometric lift a full you know f-250 even though it was rated at 9 000 pounds theoretically it would lift it we never did because i didn't feel safety wise that that's what i wanted to be underneath on an isometric where a regular two posts with regular length arms and so on, they were fine. But as far as a homeowner use is concerned, if you're just lifting up your car or whatever, the isometric lifts will do everything you need to do. So, Conrad, if you're still listening and you've got the ability weight-wise to do an isometric lift because you can open the doors all the way up, which some of you are thinking, well, who cares about that? Well, A, it's the... not having your door ding okay that's one end of it and there are times when you're working on your vehicle where you want to raise the vehicle up but have the door open so say for example you're working on an electrical problem and you got to get into the fuse box it's nothing better than being able to raise the car up to chest height be able to get in underneath the dash at chest height where you're not leaning over to work on those things but still have the door open That's hard to do on a regular two-post lift. Does that make sense? And until you do some of this work, for some of you out there listening, it doesn't make sense until you're actually physically doing it. But once you use some of these different pieces of equipment, it starts making sense. So in a homeowner's application, I personally would only ever buy either... Again, unless you've got big trucks, I would only buy an isometric or the smaller homeowner drive-on lifts where you're just trying to double stack and park. Now, for some of you, depending upon how many cars you have, there is a company out of Texas, I'll think of their name in a moment, where they make a double drive-on four-post lift. And there's an advantage to that versus having two four-post lifts because since there's no center posts in the middle, you can drive two cars on, park two cars under, get four parking places out of one two-stall area, and get it more compact because you don't have those other two posts down the middle. Now, they're a little bit... Weird because you can't really open doors fully. In fact, you may want to drive one on and back one on because that way the doors are opposing, you know, the driver's door are opposing each other. So you drive one on one way and back the other one on so both doors are out. Otherwise, they're really tight in the middle. to get in and out of the car. But those are really handy if you're somebody that's trying to get extra parking places out of what you own without adding on to your shop, barn, whatever it happens to be. So just something to think about. And if you're looking at homes, this is another side note for some of you out there where you may be home shopping, because some people are right now because it's a good time to buy. We were talking about that during the break. Good time to buy a home right now because prices are a little bit down. I've always been one to where I'm measuring the garage. I've always driven trucks, for example. Most garage lengths are 19 1⁄2 to 20 feet long. Guess how long a truck is? That. Or a little longer. So I've always looked at garages that I at least want to have about 23 feet minimum because then you can put a full-size truck inside of the garage. If it's shorter than that, you may not get that truck inside. Now, that's me, and I also like the high ceiling. So if it's got a higher ceiling, that's a bonus because of some of the things that we're talking about right now in regards to lifts and things along those lines. Just something to think about. None of what I just said, you know, these are all first world problems. I understand these are not things that, you know, most people have to even worry about. But if you're thinking about doing those sorts of things, that's something to look at going back to Conrad's question. I'll get to Mike's other questions in a moment as well. But Dennis and Lakewood, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey, John. I've got this 22 Tacoma. Okay. And one of the maintenance procedures is to re-torque the propeller shaft bolt and When they talk about re-torquing something, would that mean to you break a bolt loose and then bring it to torque?
SPEAKER 07 :
I would just check the torque. I think in that particular situation, breaking those loose and re-torquing it, there's no advantage of. And I will be honest with you, Dennis, in all of the years of working on vehicles, I can tell you I never in my entire life, unless it's something I worked on, you know, a week or two earlier and we're just double checking to make sure that everything's good to go. Never in my life have I retorqued a propeller shaft ever. Yeah. Okay, thank you, yeah. It's just not something that comes loose. It's not natural for those to come loose. Those coming out of the factory should have had a little bit of Loctite on them in the first place. That's why I would not break them loose, because they typically have a little Loctite on them anyways that comes from the factory on the bolt itself when it was installed. And to me, that's just something they're throwing in the manual just to be a CYA more than anything. The chances of that coming loose are slim to none. Okay. All right. Thank you for that. Then does that make sense? It does.
SPEAKER 11 :
It makes sense to me, but I wanted to run it past you.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you're good, Dennis. You're all good. That one is one of those where just look at it. If they look good and tight and all of that, I wouldn't mess with them. Okay, great. Thanks again. You bet, Dennis. Appreciate you very much. All right. Got other questions coming in via the text line. We'll come back and answer those. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Roy, and Dietze, both from Pro-Tech Auto Shield. And we were just online looking through different lifts and so on. And again, folks, it really does come down to what you like, what you're used to, and so on. You know, I would tell you that the majority of lifts that are sold by name brand folk, again, Rotary, Challenger, somebody mentioned BendPak.com. personally never been my favorite doesn't mean they're a bad lift it's just for me personally i've just never been a big fan and again there's nothing against them it's just i guess it's like in my world working on cars all the years that i did and owning shops and everything you get used to a particular brand of something so for example you get used to a snap-on ratchet versus somebody else's? Does it mean that one's better than the other? Well, I think Snap-on's the best. Will they both do the same thing at the end of the day? Sure. You could take a Craftsman ratchet or a Snap-on ratchet, and they both, at the end of the day, would pretty much do what you needed to do. Just the Snap-on's a much better way of doing it at the end of the day. So everybody kind of has their preference on that. I am not... I'm going to tell you, go buy one brand over another. I just always found, frankly, personally, my biggest issue with BendPak is I just always found them to be a little bit more clunky. Maybe that's the way to say it, and I don't know if that's the exact word to use or not, but I just found them to be not as refined. Maybe that's the word that I'm looking for, some of the other lifts that were on the market at that time. But again, this comes down to what do you want to do, and for homeowners, I'll just be straight up honest. Even if you found a really good used lift, even if the shop was going out of business or something, as long as you're looking at all of that and the safety cables aren't stretched and everything's in good shape and the hydraulic hoses are good and so on, would I hesitate to buy a used lift? No, I would not hesitate to buy a used lift as long as you go through the sort of rebuilding of that, putting it back up, making sure that everything is good to go. Here's the reality. Will lifts last decades? Yes. Absolutely. There are some lifts out there running around today that are probably 30 years old or more that are still operating and functioning just fine as long as proper maintenance is done to those. And you go through and do the things necessary to make the adjustments. Again, cables need adjusted periodically. Double checking to make sure cables aren't frayed. There's no issues there. Those are the safety things that keep things up in the air in case there's a problem. you know, a cylinder blows or something like that, make sure cylinders aren't leaking and so on. But, you know, lifts need inspected even in a shop on a routine basis. There are companies that actually do that as a living, I guess you could say, for shops themselves. And as long as things are kept up to speed and you don't have any issues, you know, going on with a particular lift, would I buy a used lift? Sure. All day long. I mean, keep in mind, there are places in the country, Arizona, California, and others, where they use lifts outside. Mm-hmm. We don't hear because of our climate and our temperatures in the wintertime, but there's a lot of people that will put a lift outside and they will work just fine. The other advantage I didn't mention earlier on the four post homeowner type units as well is the majority of those have a caster system that you can use with them whereby they don't have to be bolted to the floor. You can put a caster on it on all four corners, and literally one person can move that lift around and reposition it if need be. So if you want to rearrange your shop or your garage and you decide that, oh, I don't like it in this spot, I want it in this spot, okay, put the casters back on, roll it around. put it in the position you want it to be, take the casters off. There's a procedure for all of this. And you can roll that lift around and put it wherever you want to accordingly. And somebody actually sent me a picture of one of the double wide lifts that they have on the text line. So what I said is they work. And for those of you that are looking for, you know, more room and you're trying to get two extra spaces out of it and use one lift to do so, those double wide lifts work really well for that. So. Again, that whole world is no different than what kind of window film are we using versus what kind of ceramic coating are we using versus what kind of PPF. Now, one thing before we end this hour, Roy, that I wanted to talk to you guys about that I get questions on as well is talk to us about paintless dent removal because you guys do that as well. So somebody gets some hail damage or they've got a door ding or something along those lines. In most cases, not all, but in most cases, those can be taken out as long as the finish of the car is good. You can typically take that dent out, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And now that is the season we're getting some hail storms around the city.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. There was a bunch, there was a bunch yesterday.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was texted earlier this morning about, yeah. Yeah. Give us a call.
SPEAKER 07 :
So where, where, or how big of a dent can't you remove?
SPEAKER 08 :
It depends. I mean, uh, I have a guy that works for me and he's been doing, um, pretty good size dent.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Uh, but it depends. I mean, it depends on the area. Uh,
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, if it's like sandwiched and there's wrinkles in the, that's a fixed panel replacement, something along those lines, right? Yeah. But as far as like a dent, and for a lot of you listening, even where there's a corner, I guess I should say, or there's a line, they can fix those.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we can fix that. I mean, in some cases, I mean, we can get it until, I mean, I'm going to say about 98%, 95%. Okay. And you're not even going to notice it. And that's what you want. I mean, you don't want to... It's better to have it like that than take it to the body shop and then get it fixed, repaint it, and everything.
SPEAKER 07 :
I have said for years, and I'm kind of this way on most anything, if you can keep the factory paint... Yeah. And this is kind of true with all finishes, I feel. If you can keep the factory paint, leave it. I mean, almost at all costs. Even if you've got a teeny bit of a dent left, but you're keeping the factory paint, leave it. Call it good. Get used to it. If you can get that to 90%, leave the factory paint alone, and off you go. And for most people looking at it, minus you, no one will ever know that was there. You might, but no one else will ever know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. So that's what we recommend. I mean, if it's in an area where you can get it 100%, but you can get it 95%, 90%, If you're good with that, I mean, that's what we recommend. I mean, just stay like that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And, again, for those of you listening where you may have had some hail damage or some of you, you know, depending upon where you park, I happen to be in a building right here to where if I'm not really careful on where I park, I'll have something, a door ding, a bumper ding, a whatever, because in the area that we're in where the station is, I'm just going to be straight up honest, they can't drive for beans down here. It's awful. I don't know why, but it is awful. They can't drive. They don't seem to care about the car next to them. They look at a car as a tool, and if I bang the door next to me, nobody cares. Roy and Dietze took a big dent out of my truck, a big door ding. I mean, a big door ding not that long ago that you guys got. I would say it's 100%. Granted, it's a white truck, so it's always more forgiving. That's the other thing, too, folks. As you're looking at a daily driver and buying a color, lighter is better. Darker is worse because even though they're pretty and dark colors really come out nice when they're nice and clean, when it comes to dents and things like that, they show more than the light colors do. Now, what Dietze will say, though, is if you want to wrap the car, get a black one. Get a black one. Darker is better, right? Because it's easier to wrap.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And really quick, why is that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Uh, because you can, you don't have to over wrap because everything inside is going to look like it's the shadow rather than if you have a white car and you're looking at it from far away, you can like, you know, if you move to the side, you can still see some of the white.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gotcha, because the dark is more forgiving for those deep areas, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, especially on the trunk where they're usually somewhat unaligned. If you're standing very close to it, you can see that you have a different color inside. So unless you pull the whole car apart and do a full, full over-wrapped wrap, then you will be able to cover the color. But in a black car, you can't see that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, good to know. Now, is there, and this is, I know we've only got about 30 seconds left, but is there any car you can't wrap? Or is it pretty much fair game on anything?
SPEAKER 15 :
I would say it's pretty much fair game, unless you have like really like paint that's falling apart, then you require a lot more prep. But yeah, pretty much, you can pretty much wrap anything.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so those of you listening, it doesn't have to just be, most people think wrapping is only for advertising and putting your business name and everything like that on it. No, you can do color changes. You can do all sorts of things with wrapping that have nothing to do with advertising your business or having logos or anything like that on it. You can just wrap to do whatever you want. We'll get into more of that here as soon as we come back. Hour number three is next, Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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On this episode of Drive Radio, John Rush is joined by Roy and Dietze from ProTech Auto Shield for a jam-packed show all about protecting your vehicle—and yourself. From peeling clear coats and costly paint jobs to ceramic coatings and proper car wash habits, the crew breaks down what really ruins your finish and how to preserve your investment. Spoiler alert: that free gas station car wash might be your worst enemy. Callers bring real-world questions, including how to handle aging tire sensors, what to do with faded paint on hand-me-down cars, and how to shop smart for a new vehicle. Plus, Lucy’s back! She and John talk fit and finish, and why sometimes it’s worth just buying another Lexus. The guys also dig into pre-purchase inspections, CVTs vs. traditional transmissions, and why financing—even if you have the cash—can land you a better deal. Whether you’re buying, maintaining, or just trying to keep that aluminum toolbox shiny, this episode has tips, tricks, and hard-earned wisdom for gearheads and everyday drivers alike. Buckle up.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And again, Roy and Dietze both from ProTech Auto Shield with me today. And Jeff in Arvada, you are next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning. I have a 2000 Chevy Malibu, 2011 Chevy Malibu. Oop, I lost you, Jeff. Are you still there?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hello, Jeff. Jeff, we lost you. Say that all over again, would you?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I have a 2000 Chevy Malibu.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And on the paint, the clear coat on the roof and the hood is starting to peel. Okay. It's peeling off. It looks kind of blotchy, kind of ugly. And is there anything that can spruce that up or make it look halfway decent, or are you looking for a new paint job?
SPEAKER 05 :
I wish. Most likely. Yeah, and this is a question. Actually, it's funny you just said this because Charlie was asking during the break, you know, when you see a vehicle around where it could be a really nice-looking vehicle, all the body's nice and straight, it's not all dinged up, but you see the paint is looking like what you're talking about, Jeff, when it comes to, you know, the clear could be flaking, could be cloudy, and so on. Now, several things could be causing that. For a lot of you listening, let's talk about this because in some cases – There were just some paints that did that. Some models of cars had some of those issues, and it was inherent to the type of car that it was. In other cases, though, Jeff, some of this is coming from the type of car wash you use, not waxing the paint, keeping it fresh, things along those lines. Even keeping it clean can cause some of this. But when it gets to that point, it's a repaint. There's nothing you're going to do. No matter what TV commercial tells you out there, you can reliven up that clear coat. It's not possible. It's not going to happen. you
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And I think one time you were saying paint jobs, a good paint job is going to be pretty pricey.
SPEAKER 05 :
In most cars today, there's but rare exceptions, Jeff, to where you can actually repaint a car and have it economically make sense at the end of the day because to get a really good paint job similar to what you would have from factory, you're a minimum. Minimum. And it depends on the car and the size and the color and all of that, but it's a minimum $10,000. Minimum.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. All right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And in some cases, 15 or 20, depending upon what you're looking to have done and what kind of car it is. You take like a higher end, you know, exotic car, Porsche, something along those lines, you're 20K plus to get it done correctly.
SPEAKER 17 :
You could potentially do a wrap.
SPEAKER 05 :
You could wrap it. Thank you. I was going to ask Dietze that. So this is one of those examples of where, Jeff, you could actually take, instead of painting the car, wrap it for significantly less money than you could painting it.
SPEAKER 11 :
probably is not the right thing to do but the problem yeah the quick fix i mean the you can wrap it in uh but the problem like she's saying i mean the problem is going to still there the underlying paint is still there is the point yeah okay all right and uh one other question uh
SPEAKER 08 :
I have a 2012 Dodge Ram, and the tire light is on. But the dash readout gives you a readout of all four tires on the dashboard. And it's indicating equal tire pressure. It reads 38 pounds. Now, there may be 39, 37, but in most cases, it's 38 pounds, all four tires. Now, if the If one of the sensors was bad, would the tire readout indicate zero, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Usually they don't read at all. I will tell you that a 2012, unless you've put sensors in it, they're 13 years old. They're getting to where the batteries are probably going bad in those sensors, if not bad right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're getting close enough on age. Typically, about 10 years is kind of, and some don't even last that long, Jeff, depending upon the vehicle. Some will run, you know, eight or so. But you're at now 13 years of age. Actually, 2026 will be coming out here in the fall. So you're almost, you know, you're almost at that age. Well, you are at that age to where if they've not been replaced, they're needed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Well, that's good to know. Yeah. I've got to get any tires pretty soon, so I think I'll just go ahead and get that done then.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, if you're getting to that point, yeah, absolutely. At that point in time, put sensors on it and go. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Okay. Well, thanks for all the info.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, thank you, Jeff. I appreciate it very much. Now, one quick thing, too, on what can cause some of that cloudiness on clear coats and so on. And this is something that isn't well known, but it is something that's out there. Now, is it across the board happening in every single area? car wash i'm going to mention no but can it happen yes and that is a lot of the i'm sorry to say but a lot of the gas station car washes unless it's an upper end gas station where they've got an actual car wash where there's some attendance and things like that but typically Gas station car washes are using more caustic soaps. In some cases, they're running muriatic acid in the soap itself. I'm not exaggerating when I say this. That's how they're cleaning the car because the equipment is subpar. In a lot of cases, these gas station car washes have equipment that's probably decades old. They're continuing to make money with that wash because you fill up, you want to wash. Yes, it's an extra whatever. and or you're getting it free with the full tank of gas or whatever the case. That's the gimmick of you buying gas there, whatever the case. But in a lot of cases, they're running a very caustic and or acid soap to help get the car clean, in turn doing damage to aluminum parts and the paint on the car every time you roll through. So I would highly suggest that if you're using an automatic wash, you know the wash properly. You know the brand. You know what they're doing. You can typically see by looking at the wash, hey, this is a high-end place. They're going to be using the right soaps and so on and all of that. And I'm not a big fan of using them, especially on exotic cars. I don't think I would on an exotic car. But on your regular daily driver, you want to go use an automatic wash, be my guest. Get it ceramic coated. Go use an automatic wash. Have fun. Recoat it every now and again. Save some time and energy and so on by not washing it yourself. You're fine. Go for it. But just remember that some of the more neglected car washes, and you can typically tell by looking at them that they are, are typically going to have a more caustic soap, not helping, in fact, in some cases, damaging the paint on your car at the same time. Mike, go ahead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Boy, John, this is a great subject, and that's why I called in. You couldn't be more correct, and not that I would think that you're not knowing this subject, but once again, along the same lines that you have always advocated, and that is maintain your vehicle and you won't have to go through this cost. And I couldn't agree with you more. Gas station, car washes, you don't know what the brushes have washed off. the diesel fuel, the spilt gas, whatever's already on those. And the soaps are absolutely designed to...
SPEAKER 05 :
I lost that end part, Mike. I think what you said is the soaps are definitely designed to be more caustic and cleaning. Is that what you said? I think that's what you were saying.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, yes. That's exactly correct, John. I mean, you know, they're designed so that you come out going, oh, my car looks great. But the bottom line is the soap didn't do your finish any good. And you're correct along the lines of your earlier guess. Get some ceramic coating and find a car wash that you can run it through that looks good and ask them about their soap.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And ask them what's in it. I need to see what's in it. Absolutely. I wouldn't, and, you know, if they don't want to tell you, you know, I would run the other direction.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would, too. I would, too. Well, and for everybody listening, I was talking to Charlie about some of this during the top of the hour break, Mike, and some would say, well, John, how do you know all of this? Well, keep in mind, folks, for a reminder, I owned, you know, auto shops for, you know, 30 years and a lot of what I did was customizing of especially trucks and four-wheel drives but even some cars and things like that and Mike there was one particular situation and this was at a time where I was thinking about building a car wash so I did a lot of research on car washes all the different types tunnel washes to standalone washes to automatic washes and so on so I learned a lot about car washes at one time because that's what I was thinking of doing didn't end up going down that route but I learned a lot about car washes in that process and at the same time I had sold a guy with a truck a brand-new DZ high-polish aluminum toolbox that looked awesome. I cannot tell you how good it looked. And he leaves. Everything's great. And it had an F-250. He comes back about two weeks later, and it's got all these streaks in this really nice aluminum toolbox. And he's like, I want a refund. I want a new toolbox. Look at this thing. And I looked at him like, well, it definitely doesn't look very good. It doesn't look like the day it left here. That's for sure. So my first question was, I said, can I ask you a question? He says, sure. I said, what car wash do you use? And he looks at me kind of funny. He's like, well, what are you talking about? I said, I can tell you from looking at this, you're probably using a quote unquote gas station car wash. I said, I can pretty much guarantee you that you're running through an automatic wash somewhere in town. Am I right? And he says, well, yeah. How did you know? I said, I can tell you from looking at your toolbox, they're using muriatic acid. They're using an acid wash in the soap, and that's why it looks this way. And he's like, you're kidding me. And I'm like, no. I said, here's what I'm going to do. I said, I'm going to warranty the box. I can get one of them warrantied, no problem, because I've got a good relationship with the manufacturer. I'll warranty this box, but only one. You run through that wash again and do this a second time, it's on you. And let's just say this, Mike, he never went to that car wash again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. And I know you've got to take a break.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're fine.
SPEAKER 07 :
Take your time. There's a point here where you can step over a dollar to save a dime, even on washing your car. Go get ceramic coated. Use the people that you recommend on that. You know, they're great. They're good, and I guess, you know, this is an ad. You know, I'm not trying to be an ad for you guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you know, you're fine, Mike. Keep on. You're perfect. This is exactly what it's all about.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, no, and it will save money in the long run, and I feel bad for that guy's finish. It's horrible, and some manufacturers paint and clear coat. I get it. But with today's cars, with three-stage paint jobs, etc., etc., etc., you're going to be money ahead to go get it ceramic coated, keep it clean, either by, you know, doing it yourself, which I understand. I'm getting to the point in age where that's problematic for me. But, you know, even with my, I won't run my exotics through a car wash.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Yeah, that's a no-go period.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a no-go period. But, you know, but you've got to, You've got to keep them clean, and you need to keep a coat of protectant on them.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I.e., ceramic and et cetera. And this is real simple. Find a good car wash. Ask them what they're doing. This boils down to what you preach all the time, and I'm going to reiterate it, and that is do your due diligence first. Take care of your vehicle, and you'll save money in the long run, even on your paint job.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, yep, absolutely, absolutely. So anyway, great show, my friend. Thanks, Mike. Appreciate you, man, very much. I mean that sincerely. Okay, one other thing I've got to throw out, just because it comes up far too often. I'm sorry, and it does. I've had several text messages even along these lines here in the past couple of weeks, and this is an article right now, just popped up. It came out yesterday, by the way, 9 News. A week after, 52-year-old Carlos Mercado was killed by a hit-and-run driver. His wife and children are trying to get his remains back to Mexico for a funeral. So here's the key, folks. Here's how he died. Changing a flat tire on the side of a road. Oh. which I tell you guys all of the time, and I can't preach it enough, get completely off the road. A life is not worth what you would ruin even in a tire in a wheel by driving to the next exit. For the love of God, stop changing tires on the sides of roads. It is the most dangerous thing I think you could ever do. Now, in this case, he was killed by a drunk driver, but here's the problem, especially at night. People that have been drinking and are drunk, they are naturally attracted to things that are blinking or there's light or whatever. It's why I'm so fearful of even people that are on the sides of the road with hazards on at night because you've now become a target for those types of people that might be out on the road. Even distracted drivers, they're going to be attracted to those particular things. and you on the side of the road with your flashers on have now become a target so please stop doing that every time i read one of these my heart breaks because this is avoidable drive to the next exit get off the road completely the car will go that far on a flat tire turn your hazards on get over to the shoulder drive to the next exit then do your tire change a tire is Cheaper than a life. Oh, my word. Thank you, Roy. Yes, there is no replacement for a life, folks. A tire can be replaced.
SPEAKER 17 :
I once drove my car for 20 minutes until I got home in a flat tire.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're way better off doing that. then having an injury, an accident, somebody else having an accident, whatever the case may be, there's nothing more dangerous than working on your car on the side of the road, period. So please stop doing that, and these things will be avoided. We'll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio KLZ 560. Really quick, back to that story I said a moment ago about somebody dying by changing the tire. Keep in mind, folks, too, this was 7 a.m. on a Saturday morning. Yes, it was still a drunk driver, but it was 7 a.m. on a Saturday morning. This wasn't 2 a.m., midnight, 10 p.m. This was still 7 a.m. in the morning. Still proving my point. Don't do that. You are now a target for people to run into you. Jim and Centennial, go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi, everyone. I am in the process of getting a new car.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great. Good for you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. My current one is 22 years old. I'm going to be passing that over to a grandson.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And so my question has to do with paint. I'm thinking about ceramic coating. And my 23-year-old, I had the PPF film, I believe that's called, on the front of the vehicle. So my question is, do I need to do that today with the products that are out there still?
SPEAKER 05 :
put the ppf on if i do do i do that first and then the ceramic yes first nope you're thinking you're thinking exactly correct and and now let me let me say this jim it you know as far as ppf goes that's a yes providing you're really trying to keep the vehicle to look as new as long as you can meaning that ppf is keeping all of the paint chips down if something you know it's not completely rock-proof or ding-proof, as you know, but it gives you an extra layer of protection on the vehicle that you're not going to get any other way. And it's the reason why, again, in a lot of exotics, they're PPFing the entire car. Guys that are working out of the beds of the trucks are PPFing the sides of the bed and things like that because the paint and everything on the car just lasts that much longer by doing so.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. My vehicle, my 22-year-old Toyota, I had the hood with the PPF And we did a lot of long distance trips and driving around and we haven't done much in distance with that vehicle in a while. Anyway, it's pretty much rock free. I mean, there are some chips, but not major. And so that was another thought is. And we're getting close to retirement, so I don't see us doing as much driving as we did when we had kids.
SPEAKER 05 :
Either way, Jim, I think personally the way I look at it is, does it cost some money on the front side to do this? Yes, it does. PPF isn't free, as you know, so there's an investment there. But what I've learned through the years is, and just did some swapping around with some cars here recently. And what I will tell you is your resale and what you're getting out of the car down the road by doing this, there's nothing else you can do to make it that way. I mean, you'll get more money. You basically get your money back down the road when you go to get rid of the car. Now, in your case where you may not be doing it, it's the last car you own, I don't know. I'm still particular, Jim. I just want it looking new all the time. I don't want it looking old.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going to help.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's just me.
SPEAKER 11 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Okay. So now to my next question, if there's time, my 22-year-old Toyota, it's been sitting outside for 11 years now while my newer car was in the garage. Okay. And it's weathered. So is there an easy way to take that off or just? forget it. I was just trying to make it look a little nicer for my grandchild.
SPEAKER 05 :
So it's got some older PPF that's getting a little weathered, is what you're saying?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it's 2004. It's 22 years old, that vehicle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that can be, now, like we said earlier, because there's an age on, I mean, that PPF has been on about twice as long as it probably should have been, so it can come off, but it will take some work to get the adhesive and everything else out. Here would be my suggestion, Jim, is... Unless it's really, really, really bad and it's something to where it just detracts from the look of the car and so on, I probably would leave it on, let him start driving it, see how things go. Unfortunately, young kids are prone for accidents and things along those lines, so I would make sure that maybe he gets through a few months before you really worry about doing anything. But, yes, that could be renewed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay. Good idea. Yeah, I think my grandkids aren't as particular about cars as I was when I was 16.
SPEAKER 05 :
Most are not. I mean, some of that I think, Jim, is not to be, you know, not to attack the next generation's plural or anything along those lines. But, yeah, every generation's a little different when it comes to, you know, how they keep their car. And, by the way, all kids are a little different. You know, I had some where it was very important as to how the car looked at that age, and I had others that could care less.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Just depends on the person. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, I appreciate the information.
SPEAKER 05 :
And when it comes to the new car, go see these guys at ProTech, and they'll take care of you on the new car just fine.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I'll be contacting them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Awesome, Jim. Appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're very welcome. Lucy, let's get you in before we go to break. Go ahead, Lucy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hi, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
How are you, Lucy?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm great.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good to hear from you, as always.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have called you several times about the 2003 RX300 that I bought new. Right. And when the transmission went out, I bought that Subaru Outback, which was a fine car, but it just didn't feel beefy to me. I don't know how to explain it.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, that's a good way of explaining it. It just doesn't fit you either. I mean, that's the thing, too, about some cars is while they're great cars and not taking anything away from the car itself, every car is not for every person.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that brings me to my question. I've finally come up with a car I think would work for me. Okay. A 2024 or 2025 gently used Toyota Highlander, and I like the platinum package. Okay. It feels substantial. I think it would be reliable. It's practical for gas mileage. What are your thoughts safety-wise and reliability-wise on that vehicle?
SPEAKER 05 :
They're great cars. The only thing that I would have a concern with you personally, just knowing you now and knowing enough of the history of the car you bought and what you still own and so on, just remember it's a much larger car than what you've been driving. The only concern I would have, Lucy, is it's larger. That's all.
SPEAKER 06 :
So perhaps I could look at maybe a RAV4.
SPEAKER 05 :
RAV4, I think you're going to find it being similar to the Subaru in the fit and finish inside, not being anywhere as close to your RX. That's my opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I understand, and that's why I'm calling. Any thoughts on what you could throw out there as being something?
SPEAKER 05 :
Why don't you just go buy another RX? I'm serious. I mean, I'm being serious. Why did I just buy another? Now, the newer RXs, as you know, are also larger in size than what you're driving right now because they scaled up some from 03, so it's not quite exactly the same car. Now, a car that I would tell you that I think would have the fit and finish and be similar to your size, it's a little smaller, but that's the Lexus NX.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I've looked at the NX, and I do like it.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a fancy RAV4 is really what it is, Lucy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gotcha. Okay, I appreciate that. By the way, on car washes, my brother bought brand new a 2002 Toyota Solera. He hand-washed it in his driveway all these years with nothing but water. Wow. And it looks showroom new.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good for him. Proving the point of all of what we've talked about for the past 30 to 40 minutes or so.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly, exactly. For those of us who take good care of our cars and our cars, you know, are important to us, it's just good to hear that people still do that. So I appreciate your feedback.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I really feel, we just drove an NX not that long ago, Lucy, and they've got several versions of the NX, the hybrid and so on. So I would, if it were me knowing you like I do now after, you know, a year or so of talking to you, I would go look at an NX.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I prefer a gas vehicle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which those all are. They have a hybrid version of the NX, which works very well, by the way.
SPEAKER 06 :
It does. Okay, good to hear. Thank you, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
You take care. Good to talk with you. You too. Thank you very much. So weird. I was actually thinking of Lucy earlier this week, thinking I hadn't talked to her on a Saturday, and I was going to do a shout-out this week to see if she was still listening. So, Lucy, thank you for calling, and I'm serious about that. I was thinking about you. My wife and I both were talking about you earlier this week. So it's amazing I was talking about you, and now you called in. So we'll be back here in a moment. Folks, don't go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Roy and Dietze both from Pro-Tech Auto Shield with us today. And by the way, you can find all of our sponsors, including Pro-Tech. Just go to our website, drive-radio.com, and you'll find them all listed there as well. Mark and Wiggins, you are next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, good afternoon, guys. Good show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER 09 :
So my question is, Kind of based off of the question of the day, which your question was, what's your spouse's favorite vehicle? But my question is, how do you get a spouse to shop for a vehicle?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's tough because personally, I don't like shopping for vehicles, and I'm unique. I'm at a point where I've got enough relationships and fleet deals and so on to where, knock on wood, I don't necessarily shop because it can be, for a lot of people, a very intimidating, miserable experience for some people. And even Dietz is over here nodding. And especially, I think, Mark, for ladies, it can be a very intimidating, miserable experience.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, my wife has no interest in shopping for a new vehicle. She likes what she drives. It's a 2019 Subaru Ascent, which we've had since brand new. But here's the thing. A couple years ago, we got a notice for a class action lawsuit on the CVT transmission. And we thought, well, okay, so we've been servicing it, keeping up with the maintenance, and haven't had any issues. But... Just a couple days ago, we got another letter in the mail, and it said from Subaru of America that they were extending the warranty for the transmission to 100,000 miles, which she's now at almost 93,000. That means we're 7,000 miles away from the warranty on that thing going out. My concern is, are we going to get to 101,000 and then the transmission die?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's the risk you run.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, that's the risk.
SPEAKER 05 :
And really quick, Mark, as you know, too, just to jump in, as you know, that's not one of their better cars. Yeah. Unfortunately. Not one of Subaru's best cars, I guess is what I should say.
SPEAKER 09 :
So I've been researching vehicles, but a lot of vehicles have CVTs. So I'm wondering, you know, and I've looked for, you know, automatic-type vehicles, you know, standard automatic, and there's not as many as there used to be. A lot of them are CVTs. So I'm wondering, you know, is there a lesser evil? Like, you know, should we go to a different brand? You know, I heard, I think it was Lucy talking about, like, the RAV4. I think they have a CVT. You know, I just don't know what... The Hondas do the...
SPEAKER 05 :
The Toyotas do not. So that one, as you know, Mark, as you were saying, for all of you listening, that's one of those where you really have to dive into the actual vehicle itself and start looking specifically at that vehicle year and so on because it can jump around even on CVTs on some of those, to your point.
SPEAKER 09 :
So there's no real overall ruling on whether to stick with or without a CVT versus an automatic? No.
SPEAKER 05 :
I am not a CVT fan. If I could avoid, other than a hybrid, if I could avoid the CVT transmission and buying something with a real, quote-unquote, automatic transmission, not that a CVT is not, but there's a CVT and then there's automatics, I would buy an automatic transmission car. I would do my best not to buy a CVT, Mark.
SPEAKER 09 :
Got it. Okay, so the hybrid's the exception. Is that Lexus that you guys were talking about? Is that an automatic?
SPEAKER 05 :
The NX, let me look here. It should be an automatic, unless you buy the hybrid. Now, if you buy the hybrid version, it'll have a CVT. But the reason why the... The hybrids with the CVTs don't bother me as much because the entire apparatus and how everything works is completely different, and it's synonymous with each other, and they work extremely well. So I'm not going to ditz the CVTs in the hybrids because the whole drivetrain is different. I don't know how else to say it, Mark, other than that. It's just a different way of doing it, which works very well, especially on the Toyota end of things. They work fabulous. They're the leader in that world.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I'm curious about that. So thank you for...
SPEAKER 05 :
for clarifying so that kind of gives me a little bit of guidance to to talk to her about in the future but uh yeah she's she's really now now really quick to go back to your question how do you get your wife to shop for a car in colorado you guys in other states this doesn't affect you because you're different but in colorado mark how do you get her to shop on a sunday when no one's around i'm being very honest literally if you want to if you want to shop for a car go on a sunday
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's probably right. You probably got the answer. So thank you for saying that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Then you can go on the lot. You can park out. A lot of them are locked, but you can still park on an edge and cross the fence. And they don't care, by the way. They only do that just to keep the riffraff down and cars from getting stolen. But they don't care that you're shopping on a Sunday. They're not allowed to be there by law. Trust me, if they were, they would be. But they're not. So the reality is you can walk that lot on a Sunday and take notes and take pictures and look at each car. Now, you can't drive a car, of course, and that's where it gets a little bit – a little bit weird but you can really narrow down and you can you can look inside the car and you know here's my suggestion as well is you know bring a flashlight because some of the cars get tinted windows and it's hard to see inside so bring a flashlight where you can actually look inside the interior a little bit better so you can kind of see what's my legroom look like in the back and all of that and you get an idea on the window sticker what cars cost and so on you can do a lot of shopping that way so you guys had talked about like pre-purchase inspections which i've done in the past and unfortunately in
SPEAKER 09 :
Didn't do on one vehicle, and I really kicked myself for it. But that was a used vehicle on a used lot. Would that rule still apply for a used vehicle on a dealer lot?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Unless it's, you know, there are exceptions to that, Mark. Let's say you find a vehicle that's a, you know, it's a low-mile vehicle. It's got, you know, 1,000 miles on it. You can pretty much tell from looking at it, it's darn near brand new vehicle. It's a year old or it's two years old or whatever the case may be. That's probably an exception to the pre-purchase rule, especially from a dealer, because, again, it's got 1,000 miles on it. What's going to go wrong? Nothing. I mean, even if it's got the original oil in it from 1,000 miles, change the oil and go. At the end of the day, that's a no-brainer. That's the exception to that rule.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, but like 10,000 and above.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would have them looked at.
SPEAKER 09 :
Got it. Okay, perfect. Awesome. Thank you, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're very welcome, Mark. No, appreciate it. That was a great question. All right, this will be our last segment for ads. We'll come right back after this, finish things out. Again, ProTech Autoshield with us today. Roy and Dietz, I've got a couple things we'll cover with them as soon as we come back as well. But don't go anywhere. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Or you can do it before, I mean, buying the car. You can start calling them because you're thinking about protecting the vehicle. What's that look like? Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
What's the cost look like?
SPEAKER 11 :
What's the cost?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 11 :
So you start shopping around, you know what I mean? Calling shops before buying the vehicle. I want to do this. I'm buying a new car and I want to do some clear bra, PPF, some window tint, ceramic coating. How much is the cost?
SPEAKER 05 :
And call you guys, and you guys can tell. Roy and Dietze can tell you what those costs are like so that as you're going in shopping now, you're not going to get taken advantage of in, A, spending too much money for a less-than-quality product like we've been talking about today. So somebody else called in off-air and said, My recommendation on a new truck, no towing, just a third-vehicle four-wheel drive. That is a... A big question, by the way, because this one also comes down to we buying new or we buying used. So let me start there. If you're buying new, really, this one comes down to, I'm just going to be straight up honest. I know there's guys out there that hate Chevys. There's guys that hate Fords. There's guys that hate Rams. There's guys that hate Toyotas. There's guys that hate Nissans. Folks, let me tell you, they're all comparable. And every one of them has their own problems. There's no such thing as a problem-free car, period. So here's my advice when it comes to on the news site. Go drive each one. determine which one do you like best, which interior do you like best, which seats do you like best, which dash layout do you like best, how does it drive, how does it drive for you, what's the comfortability like and all of that. To me, it comes down as much to that as it does to anything else. What powertrain do you want in the vehicle? Do you want something that's got a turbo or not? I mean, these are all things, to Roy's point earlier, do some research on the front side to know exactly what it is you want. Now, that's on new. Because they've all got very similar warranties and all of that, so that's not that big of a deal. On the used side, it is a bigger deal because now it comes down to what vehicle did we find, what mileage is on it. How was it taken care of and maintained? Who was its previous owner? Because to me, it now comes down to more of who owned the car, not who made the car. In other words, it could be a Ford, Chevy, Ram, Toyota. I want to know more about who owned it prior and how well did they maintain it. versus is it a ford chevy ram toyota all of that because at that at that point at that stage it's more about who owned and maintained the vehicle as opposed to who made it so that one as a question is harder because it all depends on are you buying new or used because the rest of it's all pretty as far as the rest of it not towing and so on it's all pretty equal it really comes down to the vehicle that you find And I'm going to tell you that I'm not as brand loyal as I once was. Even though I grew up in a GM dealership, I'm just not as brand loyal as I once was because, again, folks, as we do this show weekly, they all have issues. You guys see this on a regular basis. There's no perfect car. Every one of them has their own little idiosyncrasies. It just depends on what you're looking to do. And I'm – how should I say this? I don't care. I have no skin in the game. I don't work for any of the manufacturers. Nobody's paying me to say anything about any particular vehicle, so this really comes down to you and what you want. Now, we talked during the break for a moment, and it is very true. Shopping for cars, I think for a lot of people, not just for ladies, but I think for a lot of people, can be very intimidating. you walk in there's all these cars there's typically a couple of people that have now come up to you asking you you know do you need some help can i help you with this can i help you with that in a lot of cases you pull on the lot and they may be right out the door to meet you from you know even leaving your door before you even go anywhere they're they're that in some cases that aggressive and all i can say is like roy was saying earlier do your homework know what you're trying to buy know what your budgets are and last but not least for the love of god don't buy a car on payments Buy a car for what the car costs. Payments are secondary. Because the first thing they're going to do when you get on that lot is, what kind of payment are you looking for today? I'm not joking. That's typically the first thing that comes out of their mouth is, what kind of payment are you looking for today? Because here's what they can do. They can manipulate things to where you can have an 84-month loan because you want a $700 a month payment, which, by the way, use that because that's the average right now of what new car payments are coast to coast. That information just came out this past week with, by the way, a lot of people having over $1,000 a month car payments. So $700 right now in America is average for a car payment. So you get out of the car and you say, well, I can afford about $700 a month. Well, they're going to work whatever type of a car you're looking for into that $700 a month. And the actual price of the car is like secondary. For me, that's primary. What's the car cost? If I have a trade, what's my trade? Here's another little tip on buying a car. The trade gets mentioned last. What's the price of the car? Oh, by the way, I've got a trade. You just threw a monkey wrench in. I know. And dealers hate me saying this because they want to know what your trade is first because they're going to work that into the deal. But no, no, no. I want to know what's this car going to cost me on the front side. And by the way, always buy on credit. People think, well, I'm going to bid or deal. They pay cash. No, you don't. Actually, no, you don't. You're better off buying the car on credit even if you have cash and paying it off the first month the payments due. Pay it off. You're better off doing that. You'll get a better deal from the dealer than you will paying cash. Dealers make money on the financing, so they're going to give you a better deal if you finance it than if you pay cash. So the last thing you want to do is walk in and say, I'll pay cash. Even if you've got the cash, you can write the check. Don't tell them that. Now, you can get all the way down to the final deal and pay cash. Nothing says you can't. You can be in the F&I department saying, you know what, on second thought, I'm just going to write you a check. There's no law that says you can't do that because at that point, you've got the price of the car. You know what they're going to sell it to you for. You can literally say, you know what, on second thought, I think I've got enough money. I'm just going to pay cash. I'll just write you a check. What's it going to be? I'll do a bank transfer. I'll get that handled. I'll get that done right now. Give me the deal, and I'll make it work. You can always do that, but that way you're working the deal on the car first. Everything else is ancillary, the trade, the financing, and so on. So find out what's the car going to cost you, period, and then start working your way into the rest of it. And by the way, what I just said most dealers hate because that's not how they're taught how to sell you a car and make things work. They're going to ask you, number one, what kind of payment can you afford? And they're going to work into the deal from that, not the other way around. So something to remember when you're out shopping for cars. And as Roy said earlier, too, do as much research on the front side as you can. Now, the other thing that's happened today in this world that we didn't have even a decade or more ago is we had the Internet, but. The shopping tools on the Internet are so much better now than what they even were once before. What I mean by that is you can look at a car, the color, the wheel and tire options, so many things that you can lay out on the car on the front side that literally even a decade ago, the technology wasn't as good as it is now. The other thing that you can actually use in today's world, by the way, is you can use AI to tell you what's the average price of that car selling for in your area. So we're looking at the NX. Let's use Lucy as an example. So you're looking at an NX whatever. You can literally plug into AI, ChatGPT, and say, I'm looking to buy an NX whatever. I want to know what the average price in my area, this zip code, is. What are people paying for this car? And it'll tell you. It'll do all of that homework for you to where you then know, okay, if this is the average that people are paying, why would I pay any more? So, again, you've got tools today that you didn't have even a decade ago to help you shop better for cars. All right, before we get going here, guys, one last time, what's the best phone number for folks to call you guys? 720-382-8481. And I should have asked this. What's our schedule look like? If folks go buy a new car and they want stuff done, what's our schedule like in getting things done?
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So I actually recommend calling us before they buy the car so that when they have like a, hey, we're going to get it about this weekend, I already have an appointment ready for them.
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You're all dialed in.
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Yep, so they can bring it right from the dealership.
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What if we've been in a hailstorm and we need some paintless dent removal? What's our schedule like for that right now?
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For an estimate, you can come in pretty much whenever. And then you can schedule it after that. Yeah, you're just going to leave it there for at least a day.
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And you guys will handle the insurance if there is any and all of that as well, right? You can work with all that. We can, yes. Okay, so whatever you guys need, ProTech AutoShield is the place to go. As always, guys, thank you. Thank you, John. Always a lot of fun.
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Appreciate you very much.
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Thanks for all your hard work as well. Thank you. All right, Larry, Charlie, both as well, thank you guys very much. You guys all have a fabulous rest of your weekend. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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In today's episode, we are bringing you the ultimate guide to home and garage organization! As our hosts explore the best practices for decluttering and optimizing space, you'll find valuable advice on managing seasonal items, tackling old paints and chemicals, and knowing when and how to part with unused things. This episode empowers you to transform your living areas into well-organized sanctuaries while embracing modern solutions for inventory management.
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Walter? Upstairs! Are you alright?
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In the floor behind the chair.
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This is America.
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Does everybody know what time it is? Fix It Radio.
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And good morning. It is Fix It Radio, KLZ 560, listening to a replay of our show. Thank you for that as well. We appreciate it very much. Live program today on July the 12th. July the 12th. Beautiful day, by the way, here in Colorado. So wherever you're at listening to us, we appreciate that greatly. Hopefully the weather where you are is great as well. We are sitting at a nice 66 degrees here in the Denver area. front range area, which makes for a really nice day to go outside and get a few things done. I'll talk about a few things along those lines today as well. Text line, don't forget 307. 200-8222-307-28222. You can call the studio line as well, 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600. So I thought I would go over a few things today in regards to organization. For a lot of you listening, this would be a great time of the year, you know, depending upon where you're at with your yard chores and so on, and some of that is ongoing i fully understand where you're doing you know you're weeding and mowing and trimming and all those different things my wife reminded me last night too that for some of you depending upon you know layout and irrigation and so on might be time to adjust you know watering schedules times do some head adjustments things like that the extra heat that we now have That will show up in, in other words, you have areas where you don't have proper coverage and things like that. You'll start seeing some, you know, dry spots and some things along those lines. So now is a great time to get all those adjusted. And they need periodic adjustment anyways. Most... folks probably realize that although if you don't realize that they do the heads themselves keep in mind they are you know mechanical they get stepped on walked on run over all those sorts of things lawn mowers and so on so they will need periodic adjustments so it might be a great time you know great time of the year great day to actually go out and do some of that as well and i will not get into the specifics of how to adjust each type of sprinkler head because there are a multitude of even brand to brand. And some of you listening in some of the outer areas are actually texting in as well. So thank you, by the way, for that. We appreciate it very much. And one other thing too, Rodents, I've had some conversations, not just with one of you, but several of you this week on how to get rid of rodents and things like that. And I may get into some of that a little bit later today as well, depending upon how things go with the program. But again, the text line 307-282-22, 307-282-22. And again, thanks for the text messages. And if you have any questions, by the way, off air, and a lot of you know this and do this, so I appreciate that. But if you've got a question even off air, you're more than welcome to send a text message or an email. But a lot of times text messages are very quick and easy. You can text at any time while another show is going on, by the way, or after the shows or whatever. I do my best to get those answered from you or for you, I should say. Read those questions and things from you on a routine basis, and I'll get back to you as quickly as I can. And typically within a matter of a few minutes, unless I'm in the middle of something, you know, phone call or whatever, you know, some of my own chores on a Saturday afternoon. Sometimes I'll get text messages after the show, and it might take me a little bit of time because when I get home, I do a few things around the house as it's my day to get, you know, get home, get things started around my house in regards to chores and things like that. So... If you're texting and I don't get back to you for a little bit on a Saturday, you'll know why. But those of you listening to the replays and other times, yes, you can text even during those times, and I'll do my very best to get answered back. But I thought today would be a great day to talk about cleaning, organizing. It's that time of the year where... It's nice out. It's easy to get some of those things done to where you can roll things out and actually get things cleaned out, cleaned up, organized, throw things away, go through items that you may or may not use any longer. And everybody has a different rule of thumb on what to do when it comes to throwing things away. So. The rule is out there that you read is there are some folks out there, the quote unquote organizing experts will tell you if you haven't used it in six months, then you probably don't need it. Now, I would stretch that. especially where we're at in a seasonal, you know, location like we are here in Colorado. There are some things you just don't use in the summer that you need in the winter. There's things in the winter that you need that you don't use in the summer, you know, vice versa. You know what I mean by that? So bottom line is I think the six months can be a little bit short depending upon, you know, where you live and what you're doing. But I would say personally, and this is hard for all of us, myself included, if you've got something that you haven't used in a year, do you really need it? Now, some of you that are handy folks and you do things around the house and you do some fixing up of different things and so on, you may keep a few spare parts and things like that kicking around. And you may do that just to have things for that what if I need this particular thing. item you know this light switch or this electrical plug or you know i'm keeping a you know six foot chunk of wire or whatever those are that's not what i'm talking about when i when i'm talking about things that you would because those are like inventory think of it that way and that's different and i think that's where sometimes people get off off track on what should we keep versus what we should throw away now what i would also say is what you inventory quote-unquote Probably need to look at that from time to time, just like stores do, just like all of the auto parts stores. NAPA is a big sponsor of Drive Radio, and they do this on a routine basis. And anybody that sells parts or supplies or whatever, they're going through their inventory on a routine basis because if that inventory isn't turning enough, then there's no sense in having it take up shelf space, and they might as well put something else in its place. I think some of the stuff at home is kind of the same way. In other words, we'll use those switches and chunks of wire and so on. Depending upon how much room it's taking up, where you've got them stored, and so on, keep in mind that, and I know this goes against the grain of a lot of folks' thought process, but there are stores still that provide those items. And in a lot of cases, it's not that expensive to go buy a chunk of wire and or a light switch and or an electric plug. Now, if you have enough things going on where you feel like you need to have a few of those items around, then you have to do the math on how much room is this taking up. Should I be keeping it? Should I not? I was going through some cabinets this last week looking for something. And I'm like, why do I have some of this stuff? And so this weekend, today, tomorrow, I will go through and do some of the things that we're talking about right now. Kind of a reminder of today's show and why I thought I'd talk about this. Because, you know, you get some things that maybe even get tucked in an upper part of a cabinet or they get tucked into a box or whatever the case may be. And pretty soon, you know, it's that old saying, out of sight, out of mind. And unless you go and actually... look in the box and determine what is actually in here, you may not even think about that. And I guarantee you, I've got some things kicking around my garage that I probably have had in boxes like that for probably decades. Plural, not singular, plural. Meaning, I don't need them anymore. For example, I opened a box the other day and there were some old speaker mounts for like, you know, speakers you would put on the wall and things like that. Speakers I no longer even own. And I'm thinking to myself, why do I own these things? I mean, yeah, they're nice little brackets, but I can make a bracket out of pretty much anything. Why do I need to be stocking and having these things take up shelf space when I could put other things on? So that's the stuff that I'm talking about. If you've got things in the shop, and you guys all know me, my biggest complaint with a lot of individuals as I drive around is, especially in the wintertime, you drive around, you see all these cars parked outside. They'll have a two or three car garage, but yet there's a bunch of cars parked outside. And in the summertime, when the doors are open, it's really easy to see why there's cars parked outside. Reason is the garage is full. And keep in mind, for a lot of people, the garage is full, and so is the storage unit that they're renting on a monthly basis. As we here, myself, Larry, and Charlie, look out to the west, and we look over the top of these storage units, and we see people come and go all the time, loading, unloading, and so on. And I get it. Sometimes those are a necessity, and you need to store some things. in a storage unit for X amount of time. Although I will tell you that I think most people store things in there for probably far too long. And most of what's in there, once they've moved in and settled in, if they did some sort of temporary storage during a move, most of what ends up in there is junk. Sorry, but most of it is. And that's where I think we have to be really careful on what are we keeping versus what are we getting rid of. And again, that's a constant reminder for me that, OK, do I really need said item? And again, if it's something that you feel like you should be keeping, then. They now have, and there's apps even out for this now, which is very interesting. And this is something I've not spent a lot of time investigating, but I think it's a really handy thing to do. There's a lot of folks now where you can buy the different organizational tubs. In fact, you can even buy a rack to put the tubs in if you'd like to. You really can store things easily. Now what people are doing is they're starting to have and use these apps that allow you to put a barcode or a QR code, I should say, on each tub whereby you take your phone, you scan into your phone what's in that tub, you put that tub away, and if you ever want to know in the future, hey, I think I have such and such, You can look to see, okay, here's where the tub was last. It'll even show you a picture of that on some of these apps. And or you can just scan the QR code on the outside of your tub, and it will tell you what's inside of said tub. In a lot of cases, you can even have a picture of what you had in the tub or what you've laid out before putting in the tub. Again, multiple ways to do that. And there's multiple ways to organize that. That's one example of if you want to store some things away. Now, what I would say is if you want to store some things away and keep track of it, that's a good way to do it. But I would also say this. Only store the things that you really know you're going to need. Now, for some of us, that is, again, seasonal items. You're only going to take things out during this time of the year. You're going to only typically have your cookout gear and things like that out in the summer. Summer months, for example, some people do cookouts all year long. I get that. But for most people, those are seasonal things. You know, your kids and some of the toys that they have and some of the outdoor activities and so on. Those are things that as you get into the fall and winter, you may want to put those things away. You may want to organize that better than what it is right now. And again, idea being how do we condense a lot of those things down to whereby we're not taking up all of that garage space that so many people, by the way, are paying for? but yet aren't able to utilize to put the car in. It's more of a drive radio topic, I guess you could say, because I also see constantly vehicles that are vandalized, stolen, broken into, and so on. And I think the first thing I always think of is if that was in, in a lot of cases you can see from the pictures of the people posting that there was a garage there, and then you have to ask the question, why is the car not in the garage? Again, not being critical, but just asking the question, why is the car not in the garage? If the car was in the garage... Chances of that vandalism or that theft happening probably is minimized unless you leave the door open or something along those lines. But again, point being, how many people are able to even park in the garage that have one? And if they can't, it's because there's so much stuff inside the garage. First things first, and we'll walk through some of this, and a lot of this is self-explanatory, but some of you maybe have done this, some of you maybe have not. I would take a section of your garage and work on a section at a time. What I mean by that is you take everything out of the garage. So that particular section, you lay it all out, lay it all out in the driveway, start determining or lay it on the floor of the garage or however you want to do it, depending upon what your room situation is. But then start deciding, what is it I need? Versus what is it I don't need? Now, some items, by the way, and this is for some people listening, you may have the ability to turn some of that into cash. Facebook Marketplace, other things along those lines. You may be able to take garage sales. You may be able to take some of what you have and what you may not need any longer. You know what? Somebody else may need and may be willing to turn over some cash to own what you have. And especially some of you guys that are business owners and so on, you typically, like myself, you have a rotation of things that just you accumulate. It just happens. Things happen. And depending upon what those items are, you may be able to turn those into some cash and do that by just using, again, Facebook Marketplace, which has become the replacement for Craigslist. So think of it that way. And You've got the ability to take items that you would normally have kicking around the garage, taking up space, and then turn those into something else. The other thing, too, that starts to collect over time, again, I'm as bad about this as anybody, is old paint and chemicals. So, you know, you painted... a room at one point, and by the way, you may have even changed the color of that room since, but yet you've still got the paint from, you know, two colors ago. What are you going to do with that? Now, here's the rule of thumb on paint. In Colorado, other states that are listening, some of you guys that listen in Oklahoma, Texas, Montana, Jersey, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, you know, other places outside of Colorado, I don't know how it is because every place is different. But here in Colorado, you cannot throw liquid paint in the trash. So if the can is hard and solid and it's gotten all dried out, you can throw it away. No problem. I've never had any issues with that whatsoever, and I think the rules are okay on that. If it's liquid, though, you cannot. And part of that is because just think of the mess and everything it makes when it's actually liquid. So there's a couple things you can do. For some of you that get a lot of Amazon boxes and deliveries and things like that, if you've got just a little bit of paint left in a can and it's liquid, then go ahead and pour that out onto that cardboard, let it dry, throw the cardboard away, and you're good to go. The other thing you can do is there's a lot of community drop-offs that they'll have different times of the year where they'll take household paint and chemicals and things like that, solvents, what have you, and you can drop those off there and then they handle the disposal of. But The biggest thing on the paint side of things is not throwing liquid paint into the garbage, of course, because you're not allowed to throw really any kind of liquids along those lines. Paint, oils, things like that, those are no-nosers. They're not supposed to go in the trash. So they need to be solids before they actually make it there. But that's one of the things, too, to go through as we're going through all of this is, you know, and by the way, if you have leftover paint, do you even know what it is and how old it is? Because that's another one where with the new technology, If you've got old paint you've been hanging on to touch up and do different things inside the house, and that's getting to be, you know, my suggestion would be date that can when you put it out. You know, what room is this? And then date it. Because as it gets older and older, that paint will no longer be as effective as it once was. And with the advent of these new machines they have at all of the paint stores, you can literally take a paint chip in. And darn near get exact. I mean, it will be so close that you're you're saving that old quarter pint or quarter quart of paint is the shelf space. It's not worth taking up. Literally, it just isn't. And especially as it starts to age and get older. and that paint will start to dry out even inside of that can about the only way to really store paint and have it last any length of time at all is full cans if you've opened the lid on it at all and let air in over time it's still going to start to uh you know dry out and so now i get it latex paint you can add some water too and keep using it and so on but Again, each and every one of you needs to look at these things and say, okay, are these items that I'm going to use again or not? In my case, I've even got some old varnishes and things like that where it's like some of these things I'm never going to use again. So those are things that I need to go through and start the process of disposing of as well. And then we're going to get into here some of the garage organizers and things that are out there. There are so many things today that you can buy to help get yourself organized over what we used to have. But But same situation, as I was saying earlier, though, make sure that you're keeping what you really need to keep. So let's not just organize to organize. Let's organize stuff that you're actually keeping that has a purpose, because if you don't need it in the first place, get rid of it. We'll come back, talk more about that. Text line 307-282-22. The main line, 303-477-5600. We'll be back here in a moment. Fix It Radio, the website, fixitradio.com. We'll be right back.
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All right, we are back. Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560. Larry Unger joining me now as well. And good morning, Larry. I should have said that earlier, but good morning. Good morning. Larry was on the other side of the glass, so I was saying good morning, but you don't hear through the glass.
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Well, I was a little bit late.
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That's all right. It's all good. It all works.
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It was funny because I was doing what you were talking about during your first segment there. City of Thornton has a tree branch and compost drop-off.
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Okay.
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So I had it figured out that my youngest son would do it for me so I could get down here and have no problem. But my son woke up with a sore back. So I ended up having to go down there. So I went there at 8 o'clock. I figured I could zip in and zip out.
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Not so much?
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Wasn't quite zipping in, zipping out.
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Didn't work quite that well, huh?
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No. In fact, there's about 25 trucks in front of me. Wow. Yeah.
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Well, it just shows you, you know, it's that many years people are cleaning out stuff. Some of the stuff that we're even talking about today is what people are doing. Several of you, by the way, texting in. One said, my wife is a professional organizer. And she would always ask when decluttering, have you used this in the last few years? By the way, that's exactly what we're talking about. All other people talking about how you guys label different things and so on. And again, I'm not going to tell you all how to label, you know, your own storage and how you want to organize and so on. You know, that one is really a. to each his own i i don't want to tell you how to organize all i'm saying is there are now more tools and things available including you know there's a lot of things now even on your digital phones where you can take pictures and create folders and know exactly where certain things are and so on so a lot of you can take labels and somebody said masking tape and a sharpie yeah i mean you can get as simple or as fancy as you want point being know what's in that box i guess what i'm trying to say larry
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Well, it's the important part because I've got 20 boxes of shells across my garage, and if I hadn't had them labeled, I'd have to go through every single one to figure out what I want.
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And that's what gets to be a pain. Oh, gosh, yes. And some of this I've done. As you guys all know my story, I've been working on and organizing things from – My folks for literally the past year, and I'm not exaggerating, I'm almost getting to the end. I've got a few more weekends left of some things to do, but I've been working on things for literally about a year, and I did exactly what Larry's talking about, going through all sorts of things from my folks where it was a box of I have no idea what. So you're opening it, and you're going through it, and you're determining is this something we need to keep, salvage, or something to pass on, or Or whatever.
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Throw away or whatever.
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Yeah, throw away, exactly. So for those of you that are listening, yeah, I can't suggest enough that. And I think there's the other thing, too, that I think helps a lot, just as a side note. A lot of times we'll just take a box and say, oh, that's a good box, let's use that. Well, is it? In other words, if it's not similar size and shape to the other box on the shelf and you just end up with this hodgepodge of boxes, are you better off doing that or would you be better off to take some of the, like I said, some of the storage tubs and so on that, yes, there's a little bit of expense there, but they've gotten so inexpensive anymore, even the clear ones, Larry. You can buy the clear ones for $4 or $5 a piece. They're so inexpensive that... that then you can actually, and the clear ones, a nice thing I like about those is you can see inside what's actually there. You not only can label it, but you can see inside. But my point is, yeah, it's nice to save some nice cardboard boxes and put things inside of them, but if it's not helping you organize your shelves and what you have any better than what you have now, throw those away also.
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Well, and the good thing about the clear boxes that you're talking about, the plastic ones, is they're stackable. So you could put two on top of each other and save space that way.
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That's the nice thing about the... container-type systems. And when I say boxes, folks, as you guys all know, they make the plastic-type containers in about every size you can think of. Oh, Charlie said and waterproof in a lot of cases. Yeah, and rodent-proof, Charlie, as well, Larry and Charlie. So thank you, Larry and Charlie, for saying that as well because for a lot of you, yeah, the cardboard, let's face it, you can – they can make a nest right out of those and get inside. Now, I'll also tell you this. I will also – somebody's also showing me how they're getting rid of some of their rodents today via text message. So thank you for the text messages, by the way. But I will also tell you that when it comes to even the – you're not going to believe this. But the plastic storage totes, if you do not secure the lid tightly – They'll get into those as well. Don't ask me how, but I had it happen. I had a bunch of the stuff from my, again, moving my folks around and so on. And we had a bunch of things that we had just put in. We bought some of the plastic tubs to move things around and made it easier. And some of the loose items that are just kicking around, instead of getting a bunch of cardboard boxes, I figured I'd just put them in tubs. Tubs have been really handy. We've used them numerous times. But I had one that I'd put out in one of my sheds outside. Waterproof, but still outside. And I had just put a bunch of, like, Larry, just miscellaneous things that my dad had. Old tow ropes and just stuff I was going to go through, but I just hadn't had time to do it last year. And this was getting towards the end of the fall. So here about, I don't know, a month and a half ago or so, I'm digging through stuff, organizing. Like I said, I've been organizing most every weekend. And I this particular lid wasn't quite all the way on. It was on, but it wasn't like all the way on. There was like a little gap in one corner and I open it up and it stunk to high heaven. And the mice had gotten in there and had made a nest and had chewed up one of the older, you know, tow ropes that were that I probably should have thrown away to begin with anyways, but had made a nest and had chewed up one of those, quote unquote, you know tow ropes it was inside of there and i'm thinking to myself you little boogers they will get into everything so again the the point of some of these totes versus cardboard boxes if you're in an area where you've got some rodents and things like that or you're storing some things up in a you know maybe down in a crawl space or it's out in a garage like i've got where it's out in a barn or a shed or something like that and you want to keep things a little bit tighter those plastic they're black and yellow and they've got the real lockable lid where things you can actually hear it lock on in fact to pull them off you've got to kind of get underneath one edge you really pull them off they're they're pretty much you know they're not airtight but they're pretty waterproof because the way they're made water will go over the top of them and you know kind of run off the sides It's got kind of its own little built-in roof system, I guess you could say. And those work extremely well. Not the type where the lid collapses, you know, folds onto each other. I'm not talking about those. Not those kind of totes. But the actual, you know, Christmas time, you'll see them for Christmas decorations and things like that. Those things work extremely well. They're, as Charlie was saying a moment ago, watertight, and they're also rodent-proof.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, they are.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've not seen a mouse or anything chew through the plastic gun. I don't see them chew plastic anyways. It's usually the cardboard and those sorts of things that they're using. Now, they'll climb inside of one if it's open, like I just noted. And then they'll go to town on whatever's inside of that. But whatever you can do to keep those little boogers out of there, I would.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you can latch them down, they'll stay tight enough that the rodents will go somewhere else.
SPEAKER 06 :
And there's a lot of, for a lot of you listening that have these, you know, you want to do the black totes or you've got black totes. There are now, you know, DIY things where you can go online or you can paint how handy you are. The nice thing about the black ones as well is they can be slid into holders. And so what I mean by that is in some cases you don't have a lot of storage space, but you've got a lot of ceiling space. You can actually make this kind of slide system whereby that tote has enough of a lip on it where you can literally build a little track system where you can actually slide those totes up into the roof system, if you would. Again, marking everything to make sure you know what's what. But you can literally slide those into a track system. There's all sorts of do it yourself things where you can make them yourself or you can buy them. It just depends on how handy you are and what you want to do. But reality is, keep in mind, you've got, in a lot of cases, a lot of roof space that most people do not utilize. And those totes can slide right into those types of areas and free up all of your floor space. Again, idea being, and several of you have texted in on this as well, idea being, let's park in the garage. When it's all said and done, let's figure out a way to park in the garage. Jeff, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
Parking in the garage. What a novel concept. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, it's funny. I've had two or three people that have texted in that have said, yeah, I make sure that, you know, I, I am always able to pull into the garage and I guess Jeff, I'm just so spoiled. I've not parked outside now in gosh, several decades because to me, part of home ownership was having a garage.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah. And I, uh, We actually have a detached garage with three bays, so we have a total of four bays.
SPEAKER 06 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, all four have vehicles in them. Even the third bay of the detached garage, I kind of made my woods chop, but then we got a four-wheeler with a plow on it for the wintertime. Nice. The garden tractor just wasn't hacking it, so I arranged it so it stays in there in the wintertime, but if I need the space, I just pour it out front and You know, it's full purpose.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good way to do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
The only exception is the last couple of months. My son moved from up here to Florida, and I got some of his crap still in one of the bays of the garage. As soon as I get that done, all my vehicles will be in there except my sport track.
SPEAKER 06 :
Very nice.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't have room for that one. I was calling about your... I had to live with your story about mice and cleaning up, a story that combines both. On the back of the detached garage, there's a deck, and I had a previous owner had built what can be very loosely called a garden shed. Underneath it, they basically put up some fiberglass panels. to kind of keep the rain out and stuff, put a door on it. But they did absolutely no landscaping to protect it from water coming in. And on the northwest side, there was actually a dip that gathered snow. So, I mean, it's just wet in there all the time of a mess. And so I was getting ready to have it cleaned and landscaped. As a matter of fact, the landscapers are here this week taking care of that problem. But in the process of cleaning it out, I had about 50 feet of the 4-inch corrugated black tube for water mitigation. And I went to lift it up. I said, now, this is heavy. This is ungodly heavy. What's wrong with it? Now, we have a cat domicile that we built in there for the barn cats that we have. They can get in and out around it. And they were losing a lot of food over the winter, and I thought, what animal's getting in here? I mean, I'd seen raccoons from time to time, but nothing this year. And I went and emptied that out. There was, no kidding, 25 pounds of cat food in that corrugated tube.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mice had drug it in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And so I started looking at, why would mice come in where cats are? And it turns out, I don't know if you've heard of this story, there's a bacteria um and a parasite called uh toxoplasma gandhi that cats have okay and and the life cycle of that is that um they it comes to them from rodents and when rodents get it it makes them unafraid of cats so they will come to where the cats are um and then the cats will take care of them, eat them up. So apparently these little guys had been infected with something. I don't know if it was T. gondii or what.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did not know that.
SPEAKER 08 :
They did not care about the cat being there, and they were happy to be in there.
SPEAKER 06 :
And evidently the cat didn't care either.
SPEAKER 07 :
They had a smorgasbord.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we have one that we've had for about eight years, and – I have another one that we just got last fall, and she's a great little mouser. She leaves little presents for me. I had a pocket gopher head staring up at me when I went out on the deck one morning. But, yeah, so bottom line of the story is that, yeah, everything got taken out. We're regrading the whole area. We're drainage in around those panels. They put some road base down already. have plastic to carry all the water away, and everything that's going in is going to be cleaned and stacked and getting rid of a bunch of hand tools that are either duplicates or I just don't need anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and by the way, that's a whole other – I could almost do an entire show out of what do you do with old tools and things because unfortunately – and I know a lot of you are going to cringe at this, but it's the reality, Jeff. Unfortunately, with the – Advent of so many now tool makers that are out there making some pretty nice tools at a pretty inexpensive price point. It's made old tools almost. I hate to say this, but they're about worth the iron weight that they are itself, unless you can find somebody to donate or give them to. Some of the old S&K and Craftsman's and so on, there is just little, unless it's some sort of an antique that has value because of that. Otherwise, Jeff, there is hardly any value to them at all. It's almost a who can I give these away to, and even then that's becoming harder and harder to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you had a session a while back on the power tools. I'm still trying to figure out, though, I just can't. Bring myself to give them away. There's two Model T jacks, tire jacks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. The problem is, as you know, there's just not that many. The problem with the Model T, this is true of a lot of the early Ford vehicles, period. I can talk about this on Drive Radio as well, but even a lot of the hot rods and things like that, Jeff, they're just not... as valuable as they once were. And I hate to say this, but every month that goes by, they're probably getting a little bit less and less and less because the market of who wants those cars is aging out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. If I could even figure out a way to do some yard art or something with them, you know, that was, uh, so it's just, I hate to just throw them in the, we have a transfer station here in Lake County. We pay for, uh, uh, a local, uh, dump and, uh, and transfer station for other waste. And, uh, I can, I recycle all my stuff there about once a, once a week, you know, metals and plastics, and then they have a dumpster for trash. So, um, but yeah, I just, uh, I hate to throw it in the middle bin, the middle dumpster. Cause it's like, yeah, you know, I, I can, I can appreciate what you're saying. It's like, no, I know, but, uh, but you know, after a certain age and I use that expression a lot, After a certain age, you realize all those plans you had for things are not going to happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sort of fade away, don't they?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Unfortunately, they do. I'm glad you said that, Jeff, because that's a great segue into a lot of this organizing and that as well, is to really analyze, okay, I've been saving X amount. for x in some cases jeff decades plural and i'm not exaggerating because i'm one of those where you know i'll get around to that at some point and before you know it 20 years have gone by you haven't gotten to it yet meaning are you really ever going to get to it and if you're only saving it because it's a project you think you might get to someday let me give you a little insight no you won't yep yep i have uh just to end it i have a framing nailer that i bought when i was uh
SPEAKER 08 :
putting an addition on a house in Colorado Springs. And I thought, oh yeah, I'll be able to use this. I don't think I've ever hooked an air hose up to it. And it sits in my garage now, and somebody's going to find a good home for somebody.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and now even what's happening, this is happening inside of auto shops. It's happening even, you know, we've got some homes going in next to us, and I listen to those guys and some of the tools they're using and so on. And the reality, Jeff, is you used to hear little compressors running, even when guys were doing roofing and nailing and so on. They'd be putting up, you know, framing or they were doing roofing or whatever, siding, and you'd hear the – compressors running because they were running a lot of the air nailers and things like that um yeah not anymore uh you hear that you hear no compressors running anymore at all because everything's gone to cordless because they don't drag a hose around everywhere they go yeah so unfortunately even those air nailers are becoming something of the past is my point
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, it's a real bummer becoming obsolete.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is. I've got, speaking of those totes, and I've talked about this in the past, but I'll throw it out there again. I have got one tote, and this is not an exaggeration. I've overflowed the tote now, and I've got some stuff even laying on the floor around the tote that I keep trying to, anybody that comes through, I keep asking, do you want any of this? It's all yours if you want, but anything with a cord on it. I have been, you know, old drills and things like that, sawzalls, et cetera. I have been sticking in this tote, figuring somebody at some point will want one of these. Jeff, I haven't given a single item away yet in a year. Nobody wants a corded item anymore is the problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I heard you say that. I actually had a corded, I don't know what you call the saws that you put the little attachments on the front of them, and they cut flush cuts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I pulled that out to do some from a few of the fiberglass panels. And I was thinking to you when I pulled it out going, yeah, this would really be cool if it had a battery pack on it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Bring out this extension cord. So, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and it's getting to the point where even in most shops, and I still coach a lot of repair shops and such, and even what a lot of guys are used to using in air as far as air ratchets and air wrenches and impact wrenches and things like that, other than about the only thing shops are still using air-related because you just don't have enough power in anything electric yet, I say yet because that probably will change as time goes by, But the air hammers, whereby you're trying to cut off a bolt or a head of a bolt or even use it for exhaust work and things like that, those end. That's about it, Jeff. There's very few things now inside of a shop that even shops are using air with. It's gone all electric.
SPEAKER 08 :
And not even tires?
SPEAKER 06 :
Tires, believe it or not, for a lot of guys, they've even got the little Milwaukee, you know, the little portable compressors that I talk about. A lot of the guys, even as they're doing other work and they're having to adjust tire pressure and so on. Now, the tire machines and things like that, yes, they're using air for those, of course. But when it comes to even filling up tires and doing things like that, they're using the small little hand-held compressors because they can plug them in, set the pressure, not even bring a tire gauge with them, and just go tire to tire and speed things up because they're not having to stand there, fill the tire up, and keep checking. It's just all automated.
SPEAKER 08 :
What about taking off lug nuts?
SPEAKER 06 :
Electric, I haven't used, even in my own shop at home, I haven't used an air wrench to do that in probably five years.
SPEAKER 07 :
As a matter of fact, I just bought a battery-powered impact. Works wonderful.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you don't, again, Jeff, in the shops. Now, the downside is the electric impacts are a little heavier. As far as a technician is concerned, they're a little bit heavier than what you would have with an air, but... But, again, you don't have this cord that you're out, that you're dragging around, that you're tripping over, that you're having to hook and unhook and all of that. And the little bit of extra weight where the guys can still just take that and set it on the ground or set it on the rack next to wherever they're working, wherever that last wheel that came off. At the end of the day, they're not that heavy is my point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and the safety part of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
And again, going back on, because things have changed, gone are the days of guys, they'll use the impact to put the wheel back on and get everything sort of snug, but everybody's using a torque wrench now to actually torque the lugs down. So as far as that goes, you're not needing it to tighten anything. You're just using it to spin the nut back on is really all you're doing. So you don't need all that power that you once had because you're not using it for that anymore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Yep, it's an efficiency issue, not a... Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
And again, I have some of these. I mean, some of the smaller handheld snap-on Milwaukee, whatever, where even your quarter-inch to three-eighths ratchets and things like that, they're smaller. You don't have a hose that you're having to negotiate around and try to figure out in an engine bay, how do you get this hose to negotiate around all the things that I now have to do? You literally can take that cordless ratchet and put it in places that you would not be able to get an air ratchet in before.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's interesting because the impact that I bought just recently has a setting on it. So once you break the nut loose, it stops.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
So it doesn't spit it all the way out.
SPEAKER 06 :
They are becoming so handy, Jeff, that it's almost, and they're getting cheap enough too. That's the other thing is in a lot of cases, some of the off brands, which for a lot of guys that are listening, you'll probably hate me for saying this, but gone are the needs to carry a four-way or even a tire iron in the car, Jeff. If you're somebody where you're really worried about being out on the road and having any kind of a tire breakdown or whatever, Go buy the cheapest impact and the socket that fits your car. Keep it charged up. Throw it in the trunk or in the back of the bed of the truck or whatever. And the reality is you're never going to use that tire iron again.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, because the lithium battery will stay charged for at least six months.
SPEAKER 06 :
Correct. You don't have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. It's a different world out there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Way different. And it's making all of those corded items that I just mentioned. It's making all those corded items just literally – and like you, I feel bad. I haven't thrown anything away yet because I just haven't gotten to where I can do that yet. And some of the tools and stuff that I'm going through from myself and my dad, so combining those two together, literally I've got – you know gobs of just electric tools that you accumulate over the years that because you now have a cordless tool that has replaced that good example I bought the other day just because I got tired of every time I wanted to grind something having to pull the extension cord out having to dink around so I bought one of the new Milwaukee 18 volt grinders I haven't pulled a regular grinder with the cord out since Jeff because it's just so handy you just you grab it use it and go there's no dinking around with anything else
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. The only problem is if you've forgotten to charge. But I know you, John, you have a charging station with all.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and I've got multiple batteries that I keep on the go. And that's the other nice thing about, in this case, Milwaukee, but a lot of them are doing this now. You can actually push the button before you get started to see how many bars on that battery do I have left and do I need to put a new one on it before I even start this project.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 06 :
So believe me, it has come so far that in the shops, that's why Napa, and again, this isn't Drive Radio, but on Napa's end, they are a huge Milwaukee distributor now and sell a ton of Milwaukee tools inside of the shops for the very reason I just said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I've got to say that going back to the original part of all of this, cleaning things up and getting rid of the stuff that you don't need is – It's actually, once it's out, there's a certain lightness that comes to you to go with it. I don't have to worry about that anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and after going through all the stuff of my dad's, and this is not to be rude by any means. Anybody out there listening, please don't take it this way. I'm definitely not trying to be rude or step on toes or anything like that. But what's important to you and what you're hanging on to... The next generation is not going to look at it the same way. In other words, Jeff, in some cases, it may end up in the trash anyways. You just aren't the one throwing it out. Somebody else will be.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's it, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry to say that, but that's going to be the case. This is a whole other discussion, but really what we ought to all do is get those kids that a lot of this stuff will be left to that they'll be going through and have them walk through your shop or your garage with you and say, okay, guys, is there anything in here? I'm not willing to give this to you right now, but at some point all of this will be yours. Tell me what you want because that will give me a better idea of what I'm keeping versus what I'm tossing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I've done that with the big things like vehicles already. I've even changed titles to make people beneficiaries.
SPEAKER 06 :
But on a lot of this little stuff, Jeff, the same thing applies. I mean, if I'm hanging on to something because I think I'll use it someday, but I'm not here any longer, where is that going to end up? Probably the trash.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I think I'm going to get one of those big totes and put on things you guys get to throw away because I couldn't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not bad, actually. Not bad, Jeff. Let him have a little chuckle at that time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, something to lighten up the mood.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right, something to lighten up the mood when that happens. And you know what? What I've also learned through all of that, sometimes those laughing moments are the best moments because if you're not laughing, you're crying.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I'll bet. I'll bet that's really close to home for you right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
So if you can't laugh about some of these things, you'll be crying, so you're better off laughing, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you'll be doing both, but it's better to have both than just one.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's exactly right. So, yeah, anything you can do along those lines to make it a little lighter for them, even down the road, go for it. Absolutely. Yeah. Jeff, always good talking to you, sir. Appreciate you very much. Let's take our last break here of the show. We'll be back and finish things up here in a moment. FixItRadio.com is our website. This is Fix It Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 06 :
All right, and we kind of got off track a little bit. Not really off track, but went a different direction there with some of the older tools and things like that you guys may find that you have that you're trying to dispose of. And I've had all sorts of suggestions from folks on the text line over the course of the past year on what to do with some of those things. And here's the reality. you can try all of the different things that are out there. Some of the suggestions are, you know, go to some of your local trade schools. Well, unfortunately, what I'll tell you right now is unless it's a nice, new or cordless item, they don't want it either because they're teaching all their kids how to use cordless items, not corded items, and even the air items. So that one probably isn't going to work. Some of the nonprofits, maybe, you have to kind of look there because even a lot of the thrift stores and such won't take some of these items either. It depends on what the item is. You have to really look at their fine print on what they'll take and not take. Some things they will, some things they won't. You have to look at that and see. Some of the items I have, I may end up trying to do that way and just see if they'll take some of them. But sometimes they will, sometimes they won't. So you really got to look at that. And then somebody said, you know, check with your local church. Well, here's what I know enough about churches in general. Don't let them be a dumping ground. They get so much other stuff thrown at them that people get tired of, you know, old things that nobody wants anymore. They just think I'll donate it to the church that pretty soon the church becomes your garage only tenfold. because everybody donates everything to them. And guess what they do? They go stick it in some closet someplace because they don't want to feel bad about disposing of the item you just gave them. So they go stick it in some corner of the church someplace in a closet that starts to overflow at some point and eventually gets thrown away anyway. So at the end of the day, no, I will tell you right now, unless it's something that your church specifically has said we need, I would not donate that to your local church because typically it's going to end up in the same place anyways. All you're doing is passing off the work to someone else. you're not helping them at the end of the day is my point we'll just talk to your pastor first to find out and and say be honest with me is this something you guys want you know don't you're not hurting my feelings if you don't want it so tell me up front is this something you guys can use or not because if not i'm going to go find another home for it and and i get it i feel bad because there's probably parts of the world Where there are people out there, you know, there's probably some folks out there that would take some of these items all day long if you had. But the problem is getting them to them. The amount of effort and time and money and so on to get these items to them. It just becomes it's ineffective to do so. And realistically, believe it or not, even in some of those areas. They're probably using cordless tools as well, even in some of the most remote parts of the world. If there's a little bit of electricity around to charge a battery, trust me, they're not using a corded tool either. In a lot of cases, they're still going to go cordless. Now, you see some videos where you'll see some guy... Somewhere in the middle of wherever using some old ancient tool where you're like, holy cow, I didn't even know that thing worked that way. But those are the rarity that is not typical anymore. Most of the world has become modernized even in those particular areas. And the problem with old tools is disposal of. And the only thing I can tell you is if it's. If it's got some heavy metal and things like that in it, there is some scrap value there. So it's not something you should throw in the garbage because yes, there is some weighted value to it. It's not a lot, unless you get a lot of it, you start stacking a lot of it up. There might be some value there, but yeah, the scrap metal side of it, there can be some value there. And somebody will take some of that apart and take some of the copper out and some of the windings and different things. And, yes, there's some value there. And I wouldn't just throw it in the trash. But the problem is giving those corded tools away. Here's one suggestion I've also got on that. If it has a really good cord that you think you could make a nice little extension cord out of by just putting a female end on the end that you're actually cutting off of the tool, and you feel like you can get a nice little six-foot short extension cord that you can use around the shop for other things, maybe that's the one you should get out of that particular corded tool. But typically, by the time an electric tool is ready to do what I'm talking about, the cord's not any good either. So you're usually in that boat of, okay, it's time to... It's time to be relieved of all of those items.
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The sad part is, because I don't know any place to get rid of them either. I've tried the same thing. So if anybody's listening, has a suggestion... I'm all ears.
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You bet. I'm all ears because, again, it's getting harder and harder to find a place to take some of these old items to. And... Again, believe me, folks, I have been down the path of some of these suggestions that you guys have texted in and given me, and the reality is very few places will take these. Again, because even those folks that are trying to teach young people, apprentices, and so on how to do things, they want them to be modernized and use the things that they're going to be out in the field using. Very few people in the field are using anything with a cord on it anymore. Just not happening. So anyways, Charlie? Oh, the switch to lithium? Yes. Yes, very good battery. Yeah, if you're still using the old NICADs or whatever, and you've got the ability to switch over to the lithium end of it, A, they're a lot less in weight. They'll keep a charge a lot longer. Yeah, that is, in my opinion, that's the only way to go. If you've got some old NICAD stuff, and by the way, that is one of my, in my tote that I was just telling you about, I do actually have, Larry, some cordless batteries. power tools in there. The problem is they're all old NICAD driven tools that you can't buy any, you know, the tools themselves have changed. You can't buy that battery anymore, either in a NICAD or a lithium. So those I'm kind of going to set off to the side. You know, maybe somebody's got the ability to rebuild batteries and go lithium that I don't know enough about to know if that's something that's worth doing or not. That is way above my not only pay grade but time to even mess with, Larry, because I've already upgraded in a lot of cases those particular tools, and I just don't need those old NICAD-driven power tools. Because what happens also really quick is when they design the lithium tool, they will actually design the tool around the battery so that the tool itself – is not the same as the old NICAD tool is. Typically, they're a little lighter. The whole thing has become much more compact than what you used to have, meaning that that weight factor I was telling Jeff about earlier becomes less with the lithium side than what it was with the NICAD side. And that's true, by the way, when it comes to some of the impact wrenches and things along those lines. I've got some old snap-on NICAD stuff that you hate to throw anything that says snap-on away. you know larry but the reality is once again there just isn't a lot of value to those because it's been super i mean those tools now are probably three decades old and i'm not exaggerating when i say that at least two decades old when they get to be 20 plus years old they just don't have the same use and value that they once did so bottom line on the organizing of things get things cleaned out this is a great time of the year to do so one last thing i would say also this time of the year with it being nice and warm if you have a frost freezer and it hasn't been defrosted for quite some time, grab your coolers, put all of your stuff inside of it, do some organizing with that as well, get that thing unfrosted, get it all dialed in, be ready to go for this next winter that way, and off you go. All right, that's it for Fix-It Radio today. Don't forget the website, fixitradio.com. Appreciate you all listening. Again, Fix-It Radio, KLZ 560.
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The disappearance of a young girl leads to an unforgettable journey of faith, intuition, and a miraculous rescue. As Bella's family grapples with fear and uncertainty, a seemingly ordinary woman named Lisa becomes their unexpected savior. Through detailed narration, this episode highlights the power of divine intervention, the importance of trusting your instincts, and the unbreakable bonds of family love and resilience. Don't miss this inspiring story of hope and redemption.
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My older sister woke up to get Bella ready for school and she wasn't there.
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Tension began rising as Amanda couldn't find a trace of her sister. Her dad stopped at the elementary school to say, hey, did Annabella get dropped off? But no one had seen Bella. Panic set in for Bella's dad. It was as if she had vanished into thin air. This is The Miracle Files.
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I'm Emily Jones. And I'm Holly Worthington. We're two sisters who love a captivating true story, but we're also seeking more light in our lives.
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So we're on a mission to find and share unforgettable, uplifting stories of God's miracles. We hope you'll join us on this journey.
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Welcome back to the Miracle Files. I don't often use this word and I don't use it lightly, but this episode is truly special.
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Yeah, I love all of our episodes, but this is one that I guarantee is going to stick with you for a long time.
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It will. And please stay after because we have some really important things to share with you.
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Yeah. And before we get started, just a little parental heads up. This one does deal with some mature topics like abuse and crime, but I let my kids listen. It provided some really good teaching opportunities. So it's up to you. Okay. Let's get started. Let's go. Our story starts in June of 2003. Five-year-old Bella lived between two homes because her parents were divorced. At her dad's house, she lived with her older sister Amanda, who was 12. They also had another sister, Clara, who was nine, and lived with their mom. Though Clara didn't have the same father, the three sisters shared a strong bond, and Bella loved it when Clara would visit her and Amanda at her dad's house. Bella's single father was doing his best to care for his two daughters, but was struggling to make ends meet. So when his bandmate, Bill Mix, offered to move in and help with the kids and household expenses, Bella's father gratefully accepted. Soon, Bill began moving his stuff into the house, including bringing his pet parrot with him. Bill was soft-spoken and sweet with the kids, especially five-year-old Bella. In fact, he would often take Bella and her two sisters, Clara and Amanda, out to dinner and would buy them gifts, although he bought more gifts for Bella. When Clara visited her sisters, she began to notice a trend. Bill was doing more and more with five-year-old Bella, such as dropping her off at school in the mornings. And as time went on, it became clear to Clara that Bill was giving Bella significantly more attention than the other girls. Here's Clara.
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And I was over there for Memorial Day, and we were out in the front yard playing in like a kiddie pool or something. And he called her inside, and I just, you know, kept playing. And she comes back out, but instead of coming out to the pool, she went and just sat on a chair on the porch. And I remember thinking it was weird. And I went and asked, hey, what did he say? And she went to go say something and said, oh, I forgot.
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Bella seemed a little off. But though the moment felt strange to Clara, she didn't think too much of it. As most kids would do, she went back to playing in the pool. And then things took a darker turn.
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It was early June. My older sister woke up to get Bella ready for school and she wasn't there. So she's running all over the house looking for her.
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Tension began rising as Amanda couldn't find a trace of her sister. She ran into her dad's bedroom to see if Bella could be there.
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And, you know, she's not here. Where is she? And they didn't know. So her dad sent our older sister to school and he stopped at the elementary school. to say, hey, did Annabella get dropped off?
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But no one had seen Bella. It was as if she had vanished into thin air. Bella's father ran back home. He searched the house again, this time checking Bill's bedroom. What he found there made his heart race with fear. A letter sat on Bill's bed that said that Bill had kidnapped Bella. Bill explained that he took Bella to give her a better life. Even more chilling, in the letter, Bill offered Bella's father a disturbing exchange for Bella.
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And in return, her dad, my sister's dad, could keep the parrot, Bill's pet parrot. And he would understand if, you know, her dad strangled this parrot out of, you know, anger. But that was his to leave in return.
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The letter gave an instant glimpse into the maniacal thinking that was taking place in Bill's mind. Panic set in for Bella's dad, and he hurried to call the police. When Bella's mom got the news, she cried out in terror. She immediately dropped to her knees and began begging God to save her baby. The officer put in charge of the case sent out an Amber Alert for all of California and Nevada. With little Bella in his car, Bill drove north across the California border. He was already heading through Nevada and would soon be beyond the reach of the Amber Alert. Meanwhile, over 500 miles away from Riverside, in the small town of Richfield, Utah, Lisa Hilton was having a bad day. She had three young children and was supposed to be meeting up with her mom and two sisters to help her sister move at one. But everything seemed to be going wrong. Here's Lisa.
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The babysitter backed out. And I'm like, oh, great. Now what am I going to do? I honestly thought I had another babysitter and she backed out on me like 20 minutes before I had to go. So I called a couple other people and nobody was able to help me. So I'm getting a little frustrated.
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Lisa finally called her sister-in-law and asked if she could help babysit. Her sister-in-law couldn't do it right away, but said she would be available later after teaching piano lessons. That's fine, Lisa thought. Nothing was going according to plan anyway. As Lisa scrambled to find a sitter, back in Riverside, California, Bella's nine-year-old sister Clara was surprised when her grandparents picked her up early from school.
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My grandparents picked me up from school early. And I didn't know why. And they just, we're picking you up early. We're going to go home to our house. We're going to play. and i got there and i went into like a family room and they said you could watch tv but please don't change the channel if you need to please come get us i thought there was some adult movie on i'm like okay but no it was an amber alert on the news bella's parents didn't want clara to know that her sister had been kidnapped but they were sick with worry themselves they hoped and prayed that someone would see their amber alert but so far nothing
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They knew the more time went by, the less likely they were to ever find their daughter. The worst part about it, there was absolutely nothing they could do. In Richfield, Utah, Lisa felt frazzled. Now three hours behind schedule, she was finally on her way. She drove across town and was nearing her sister-in-law's house when something caught her eye. Just before turning into her sister-in-law's cul-de-sac, she passed a church house. On the lawn of the church sat two individuals.
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And I'd make the turn to go into the cul-de-sac, and right off the bat, I noticed this little girl, and she's eating what appears to be a little Happy Meal or something, and this older gentleman. And I thought, huh, he really doesn't look like he should be a grandpa. I was kind of being judgmental. But it just, it kind of struck me like, what are you doing? Lisa kept driving. Like I said, I felt judgmental because he had long gray hair and kind of looked a little rough. And I thought, which I shouldn't be that judgmental because I had an older brother that kind of looked the same way. Long hair and a little rough and the biggest teddy bear ever. And I honestly thought that, too. I thought, OK, you know, he kind of looks like your brother. So quit that.
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Lisa shrugged off any concerns. But then something unexpected happened.
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Very strongly, the spirit said, she does not belong with him. I thought, what? What do you mean? And I kind of looked back as I'm making the turn to go up her street. And it's like, she does not belong with him. And as I'm driving the few couple of blocks up the street to get to my sister-in-law's house, it became stronger and stronger. She does not belong with him.
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The voice in Lisa's head, both quiet and powerful at the same time, made her heart pound. Still, Lisa doubted herself and tried to shake the feeling. When Lisa reached her sister-in-law's house, she unfastened her son from the car seat. As her sister-in-law came out to meet Lisa, her sister-in-law could immediately tell that Lisa was shaken up.
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And she's like, what's going on? And I said, there's this little girl in this guy down at the church. And I know she doesn't belong with them. And she goes, how do you know that? And I said, I know that. I can feel the spirit whispering that. And I started shaking. And she's like, what are you going to do? And I'm like, I need to do something.
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Lisa reached for the phone and began to dial 911. But then her fingers froze. What would she even say? That a man was having lunch with a child? It's not like he was doing anything obviously wrong. Would they think she was overreacting? Crazy even? As uncertainty crept in, that same quiet but insistent voice rose within her again. She does not belong with him. Whether it sounded ridiculous or not, Lisa knew she couldn't ignore it any longer. She settled on calling the non-emergency number for the Richfield City Police Department.
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So I called that number and I said, hey, I just feel like somebody needs to check this out. And she goes, okay, we can, we called a welfare check. We can do that. Where are you at? And I told her the location. I said, it's on the church house lawn at the end of fourth West. And it's a little girl and a guy. And she goes, well, how old is the little girl? And I says, I don't know, maybe four or five years old. She's pretty little. And I said, but she just, I just don't feel right about it. And she goes, well, is there a vehicle there? And I said, well, you know, I actually have to drive past there again to get out of this cul-de-sac. So I get back in my car and I'm talking to her as I'm driving.
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Nervously, Lisa neared the church house again. She wasn't even sure if the older man and little girl would still be there, and she didn't know what to do if they were. As she came around the corner, she instantly spotted them. She gripped her steering wheel with shaking hands. Lisa described what she saw to the dispatcher.
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And I told her, I said, okay, I'm coming up on it. They're still there. And that feeling was still just so intense. I mean, I was just shaken and it really upset me. I told her it's a gray and burgundy pickup truck with a camper shell. They're from California. And she's like, can you read me a license plate?
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Lisa gave the dispatcher the license plate number. In relief, Lisa watched as a police car approached the church. Whatever the situation was, it was now in the hands of the police. She drew in a deep breath, steadied herself, and continued the drive to her sister's house.
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I get out of the car and I am still just shaking. And I walk in the door and my mom and one of my older sisters stand there and they're like, what's going on? And I said, there's this little girl and this guy at the church house lawn. And I said, she doesn't belong with them. And my sister kind of teased me. She goes, so did you call the cops? I said, yes, I did. She goes, it's probably some grump and how mean of you just kind of being funny. And then she looked at me and she goes, no, I can tell now. She says, you're right, something's wrong. She says, just the way your appearance is, the way you're acting. And I said, I know. I said, I'm just sick about it. Just then, Lisa received a call from an unknown number. And I picked it up and I answered it. And Officer Trent Lloyd was his name. He's like, Lisa, how did you know? I said, what? I said, how did you know? Her name is Annabella and she is kidnapped out of Riverside, California this morning. There was an Amber Alert in California, Nevada, but there was not one in Utah. My mom and my sister came down in the hall and I was crying and they're like, what's the matter? She was kidnapped. This guy kidnapped her. My mom's like, hey, just take a breath. And I couldn't stop shaking. And my sister said, how did you know? And I said, again, the spirit was so strong. She does not belong with him.
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In Riverside, Bella's and Clara's family sat, anxiously waiting, praying, wondering if they would ever see their sweet Bella again. And then the phone rang. They couldn't believe what the police told them. Bella had been found. Clara's parents finally explained to her what had happened and that her sister, Bella, was now safe. Their tears and rejoicing were beyond anything Clara had seen before. The next day, back in Utah, Lisa received a call herself. On the other end was a calm but serious voice informing her that Bella had been placed in protective custody and that her mother was on the way to the police station and asking to meet the woman who had saved her child.
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It was such a tender thing because the officers were there. the lady that answered the phone while they're just crying and I started crying and the mother walked in the room and she said, when I received the phone call that my daughter was taken, she says, I hit my knees and just pleaded with God to find an angel to find my baby. And she said, and you were that angel, you were that angel.
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Unfortunately, Bella had already gone through some trauma. But it's absolutely chilling to think about what would have happened to her if she hadn't been found when she was. Inside the camper that Bella had been kidnapped in, the police found photographs and evidence of the terror that poor Bella had had to endure.
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They also found love letters written to her, songs written that he wrote about her. I think he thought he was in a romantic relationship with a five-year-old. He was 48.
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Bella had gone through a nightmare and would now need time and therapy to heal. But her family was so incredibly grateful to have their sweet little girl home again. And fortunately, Bill Mix would be going to prison where he could no longer hurt any child again.
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So it was taken to trial and he was sentenced to 350 something years, 47 felony counts. The judge that sentenced him, there is a quote essentially saying, He would do anything he could to virtually guarantee that Mix would never see the light of day outside of a prison for the rest of his life. And then he goes on to say if that were to happen, civilization as we know it would have ceased to exist.
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Bella's family considers it a miracle that their daughter and sister was seen by Lisa on that fateful afternoon. Lisa was truly their angel.
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I don't necessarily believe in God. I'm spiritual. I don't want to say religious, but I don't disbelieve. But if there was ever a time that I believed in an act of God, it was then. Something in the universe just said, this is not okay. We're going to stop this now. And I just think it's... It is, I think, an act of God. If I were to ever believe that that's it, that's what that is.
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Lisa credits the experience to God's divine intervention. With the clarity of passing time, what Lisa thought was an inconvenient, frustrating morning became something entirely different.
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So I finally sat down and started writing it out. And I can tell you from the moment I got up that morning, Like I told you, my day was planned out. I had my day planned exactly how it was supposed to go. And there were so many things that got in my way, so many things that changed besides just the babysitter needing to run and help a neighbor with something, taking phone calls that I wasn't planning on taking, you know, just all these things. I'm like, why is my day going this way? But as I sat down and wrote it out, I now saw that my Savior had placed me where I needed to be at that time. If I had been 10 minutes sooner, they wouldn't have been there. Not yet. I think the officer said they had been there less than five minutes when I saw them to let her eat her little meal, and they said he probably would have just got back on the freeway.
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The timing of Lisa's day had come down to a matter of critical minutes to put her in the right place at exactly the right time. Today Bella continues to work on healing from the wounds of her past. But through the grace of God and an earthly angel who originally thought she was just having a really bad day, Bella has grown strong and has a beautiful family of her own. Bella chooses to live her life in anonymity now, but Clara shared that today Bella is a devoted and loving mother with a vibrant imagination and a sharp sense of humor. And we want to add one more descriptor to Clara's list about Bella. To us, Bella and the courageous life she's chosen to live is a miracle. I have chills. I know. Isn't that amazing that Lisa listened to that voice?
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Oh my gosh, I know. And before we get into that, we have some really, really crucial news to share with you all.
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Yeah, you are not going to believe this, but Bill Mix, who it turns out his full name is Charles William Mix... He actually was a multiple offender. He was sentenced to basically an eternity in prison. The crazy thing is there is still a possibility that he could get out of prison.
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Yeah, it's unbelievable.
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Yeah. California passed an elderly parole law, which basically allows inmates to have an automatic parole hearing if they're over a certain age. And there was just one day where Bella was having this weird kind of gut feeling. She checked the status of Bill's incarceration and saw that Bill had a parole hearing set for September of 2024. And here's what Clara had to say.
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And she called my mom and I in a panic. And that's when I said, it's okay. We're going to figure this out. Let me make phone calls. You don't worry about it. I've got it. I called CDCR, said, why is this happening? What's going on? And they told me it was because of the elderly parole. An elderly parole law in California states that if an inmate is over the age of 50 and has served 20 or more years of their sentence, then they become eligible for a parole suitability hearing. Therefore, if they're granted parole, then they get out. Now, 20 years out of 350 is not a lot. So that's a big shock. This law has very little stipulations. If you murder a police officer, you don't get elder and parole. Or if you are a three strike felon, then you don't get parole. That's about the extent of their stipulations. So we found this out about early spring 2024. And I spent the rest of spring, summer and fall contacting anybody I could, writing opposition letters, reaching out to other organizations, asking for help, asking people to send in letters of opposition to his parole.
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Can you believe that? 20 years. That's all he's spent in 20 years of his sentence.
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Yeah. No, it's truly shocking because this man horribly abused Bella. And in preparation for the parole hearing, Clara and Bella gathered a lot of support, including letters from Bill's prison cellmate who said that Bill is still a dangerous man and should not get out. And Bill's parole was denied, fortunately.
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Yeah, thank heavens. But Bella still had to go relive all of these horrible memories. It's like she was victimized all over again because she had to have all these feelings brought back up. I mean, she's still worried about her own safety if he gets out and the safety of others. It's just very traumatic for her. Yeah.
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Yeah, and as the law stands right now, she will have to go through that again, potentially every five to seven years for the rest of Bill's life.
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It's terrible. But Clara is such a good sister, and she is doing everything in her power to make sure that doesn't happen. She's trying to pass a law in the state of California called the Mary Bella Law, named after Bella, her sister, and another young victim named Mary. And the purpose of this law is to actually keep violent sexual predators in prison. And they're actually going to be presenting this law before the California State Senate in the next couple months.
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Yes. And Lisa has also gotten involved with this. They have a committee and they have weekly meetings to work on this.
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Every week that we do it, we start with like spotlighting somebody who we say use their voice. Because that's the whole point of what we're doing is using your voice, being a voice for the voiceless. Victims who are scared to fight, too tired to fight, didn't make it to fight. And Lisa was one of our spotlights of a voice because she didn't have to call, but she knew she had to.
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So we know that we have amazing listeners and we know that you're sitting there like us saying, what can I do to help? So if you're in California... call your elected officials immediately. If you're not in California, you can still call the California senators and bug them and share this story everywhere you can. Post it on social media. Let people know what's going on. This is such an important issue.
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Yeah. And we will be posting updates on our social media so that you can follow along with what happens. But really, if you feel compelled, please get involved.
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Yes. But before we go, I just have to say, isn't the miracle in this story so powerful? I mean, how amazing is it that God was able to use this frazzled, busy mom in Richfield, Utah to save this sweet little girl? Yeah, Lisa is amazing.
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And we actually have a letter that Bella's father, Chris Clark, wrote to Lisa. And just a heads up, in this letter, he calls Bella Anna because Bella's full name is Annabella, but here's what it has to say. Hello, my name is Chris Clark, Anna's father. I would like to send a notice to everyone involved in the recovery of my daughter, especially Lisa Hilton. If I would have followed my deep gut instincts, this might not have happened. Mix has been a friend to me and my girls for two to three years. Everyone that knows us is shocked and in disbelief that he would do this. He is a sick man and nobody could see it, but I always had a feeling about his relationship with Anna, a gut feeling, but I didn't accept it. He just seemed too good-hearted. That goes to show that we should all follow our gut feelings. Thank you with all my heart, Lisa. You saved my daughter and saved her family from what could have been much more grief. Thank you to the social worker, I don't recall his name, and everyone else involved. Please print this in your paper. I am getting ready to see Anna right now. Thank you again, and God bless you. Chris Clark.
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Wow. It's just... So interesting that this dad didn't feel good about Bill the whole time. And he just didn't trust his own feelings.
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He had that gut feeling.
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Yeah. How often does that happen?
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I know. All I can think is just, you got to listen to your gut. You got to trust those feelings.
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Yeah, the older I get, I think the easier it gets to trust those feelings. And I've kind of stopped asking myself if this is from God or not. Like if I feel something like that, I really try to pay attention. And clearly Lisa is like an amazing example of someone who listened to the still small voice. Right.
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Well, we want to thank Lisa, Bella, and Clara for sharing this experience with us. We promise we will do everything in our power to support your efforts in changing the law in California.
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And thank you so much for trusting us with your story. We really believe that God brought us together for a reason. Thank you for joining us. If you have a miracle to share, contact us at themiraclefiles.com or find us on Facebook.
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We're now releasing multiple episodes each month. So subscribe on your favorite podcast platform and YouTube for amazing video content as well. Join us next time as we discover more of God's miracles.
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And don't forget to look for His light in your own lives.

In this episode, Dana Lash delves into the complex discussion surrounding 'certainty of maleness' and its implications in today's cultural climate. She also tackles the intricacies of the Texas Republican political landscape where Ken Paxton challenges Senator John Cornyn, bringing to light the often untold stories of loyalty and strategy in politics. The segment continues to evaluate the role of marital fidelity in elections and how it serves as a reflection of a candidate's character.
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The Supreme Court sides with parents and common sense about whether they can protect their kids from indoctrination at school. A House Democrat wants to radically overhaul Congress and the courts, quite a temper tantrum for losing last year. And the numbers don't lie about how much better Florida is than New York over the past 25 years. I'm Greg Karumbas, inviting you to join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the good, bad, and crazy news of the day, and hopefully a lot of laughs too. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, sponsored by Kel-Tec.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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They're always hedging, you know, because in the back of our minds, we weren't raised with the certainty of maleness that, you know, kind of the confidence that young men in their 30s have, which they haven't earned. They just have it. We don't start feeling that and owning that until our 50s and 60s at a time when we start to be treated as invisible in society. What is she talking about?
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Who the hell sits down and is like, I'm going to devote an hour of my life to the Michelle Obama podcast. Everybody's got a podcast these days. Jiminy Christmas. Welcome back to the show. What is this phrase? What did she say? Sorry. Certainty of maleness. What does that even mean?
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What does it even mean? I
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We weren't raised with the certainty of maleness. Like, what is uncertain about it?
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I think they mean fatherless homes, maybe?
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No, that sounds smart.
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Certainty of maleness would be a father in the home, right?
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I mean, that's what you would think, but that's probably not what they're talking about because that sounds intelligent. Oh. Who pays her to do this? Who's like, I want to have somebody who's actually, like, not even mid-Oprah. sit here and just run about the certainty of maleness. Like, what is the audience for this? Who sits and listens to that? It's, she just, it's her delivery. Her words aren't any different from Kamala Harris's. It's just her delivery. Her delivery is better. And so it makes you think for a minute, wait a minute, maybe it's not word salad. Nope, it is. It's word salad. It's like the Southern Baptist preacher speaking technique. You know, by the way, you can't get mad at me. I was very Southern Baptist where you, you know, you are dramatic and you can say, you know, you deliver things like that. It sounds authoritative and like you really know what you're talking about and very important. And you could just be reading, you know, Kraft Mac and cheese box. And it's, you know, sounds like really impressive. I just yeah, I'm pretty sure we were raised. I mean, if you weren't raised with the certainty of maleness, then you were brainwashed abusively. So if you had no concept of the certainty of maleness, what is that? I don't even understand what these words mean that she when she strings them together like this. Like, you didn't know that men existed? Or you did, but you still questioned it? That sounds like a you problem. That's not a societal problem. That sounds like a you being confused problem. You being raised wrong problem. That's what it sounds like. I don't know. Is this her own podcast, or is she a guest on someone else's?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think it's hers. It's hers. Yeah, it's the IMO. IMO, which means In My Opinion, I think.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. But also, I'm Michelle Obama. Oh, my gosh. That's so bad. Oh, good catch, Kate.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's so bad. Oh, that's right. Yeah. You know that they thought that they probably focus grouped it then. But we weren't raised with a certainty of maleness. Yeah, we pretty much were. Why is there all of this questioning over it? I mean, it's science. Why are there all these questions?
SPEAKER 04 :
Also, how are they so certain they're against toxic masculinity or masculinity in general if they can't also admit there is and be certain of masculinity?
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't believe in toxic masculinity, but I absolutely believe in toxic femininity. It's the third and fourth wave matriarchal society. I mean, I'm going to tell you, gents, nobody dislikes them bitches more than, you know, the chicks who are not that. OK, like nobody dislikes them more. Our friends over at Kel-Tec, Kel-Tec makes some some very good stuff. And you guys are very familiar with Kel-Tec, the PR 57. As you guys know, this it's a very interesting brand. This is the rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7. It's 40% lighter than any other 5.7 that's on the market. And it's inspired by real world data and defensive needs. So super affordable $399 MSRP. But you also have a unique top loading design. It replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips for slimmer carry profile 20 plus one capacity low recoil for ease of use. It's really great everyday carry, quickest and easiest field strip available as well. It's the new Kel-Tec PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7, lighter than any other on the market, and you can find it at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Everybody heard the Texas story, right? Oh, boy. So in Texas, you got John Cornyn, who's a senator. Not a lot of people like John Cornyn because he's been there for a long time. And typically when you tend to be in a place for a long time, when you tend to be there for as long as he's been there, you kind of don't His record is kind of haunting him a little bit. A little bit. A lot of bit. A lot of people think he's a rhino. Some people think he's ineffective. Some people think he's an effective rhino. I mean, he's got baggage, right? So it doesn't help. But he's been running... I mean, I don't even know how long. He's been in office for forever. He's been running unopposed, essentially, in the Senate for some time. Well, until now. So you have the Attorney General of... the state of Texas, Ken Paxton, who has filed to run in the primary to challenge Cornyn. And he's been so far, he's put up a good challenge. The White House hasn't waited in yet in it. And Cornyn was meeting with POTUS apparently earlier this week, according to Punchbowl News. Paxton's already tight with POTUS. Because remember, Ken Paxton was up there in New York when Trump was going through that New York witch hunt, which was a really stupid trial, by the way. That was the dumbest case ever. I can't even believe it was prosecuted. But here we are. It's New York. And he was up there. Remember, he was in the background like he was a part of like the hype squad that went out there. And all of this, you know, yes, I'm sure he believed in the rule of law and that it was being subverted in that case. But I also think that he was looking out for, well, I'm going to be running against John Cornyn at some point. So I want to make sure that I get that coveted Trump endorsement. So he's challenged John Cornyn. And it's already been I mean, it's barely started and it's already so nasty. Well, then yesterday it got nastier. In days of our Texas Republican politics, this could I mean, you're talking about a senator who could be working with all of you. So his wife, Ken Paxton's wife, Angela Paxton, by the way, did they ever respond to you? I mean, it's been a day. They're not going to I'm not going to grill him. I mean, I like what Paxton's done, but I'm not an idiot. You know, I like what he's done, but I know that there's a lot of people talking about a lot of issues with him. Anyway, his wife came out and said that basically, according to all the documents that had been reviewed and publicly reported on that, he committed adultery. I don't know if he committed adultery again past the 2018 affair that he had. And he came out and talked about it in the press, and I guess they got over it, and their marriage continued. But she filed for divorce yesterday, and that was cited in the documents that were made public. She's accusing him of infidelity. So I don't know if it's based on that 2018 affair or if it's something new. That's one thing that wasn't made clear, but... It's already, you can imagine how that's fitting into a nasty Republican primary. So here's the question. And I don't mean, I'm not trying to diminish anything. I just want to get right to the point of the issue. Does it matter? Nobody wants to talk about this on the Republican side of things. Does it matter? Does marital infidelity matter in elections? Is it meaning do you think it's an effective weapon? Is it is it effective when it's weaponized against someone?
SPEAKER 04 :
The answer to that question is yes, it is effective when weaponized. It is effective when weaponized, but I don't think it matters very much. Now, there is an argument to be made that, hey, if he's going to do this to his wife, he might do this to the state of Texas or the country or whatever. I don't buy into that necessarily so much. So I don't look at this. as something that may automatically kills his chances to become senator, but I think it is an effective weaponization.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't know if it is an effective weaponization. I've seen it happen. I don't know if it's mattered since Bill Clinton. Well, I take that back. No, I don't take it back. It hasn't mattered since Bill Clinton. And you can bring up John Edwards, but John Edwards, if you remember, didn't get in trouble because he had an affair. John Edwards got in trouble because of how badly he tried to cover it up. When John Edwards screwed around on his wife with that Ryle Hunter, he paid his campaign surrogate to pretend that he was the one having the affair. And then when she had the love child, He basically had, he paid this guy off just to claim that baby as his own. And I mean, that guy was married and had to deal with that in his own marriage. And they, he was using campaign contributions to cover it. And then there was that rich heiress, Bonnie, Bunny Mellon, whose money he was taking to pay for all of it. So he got in trouble for campaign fraud, like all kinds of fraudulent spending and all of this. That's why he got in trouble. And the coverup is usually always worse than the crime for, for the most part in instances like this and so they weren't mad at him because he had an affair they got mad at him because he was using bunny melon's money to pay off people in his campaign to pretend that they were the ones having the affair and that his love child was actually theirs if you remember they got caught on that cctv footage at a hotel that somebody sold to the national inquire national inquire actually got to report some journalism and nobody else would touch the story and they reported on it and that's how it went gangbusters And then he hit it and they were trying to say, well, National Enquirer reported on it. So it's trash. Yeah, that's guilt by association. That doesn't really work. So it came out and then he went to court and and then his wife was sick. She had cancer. His wife had cancer terminal. Oh, my gosh. It was just a diet that all of that, all of that contributed. But that being said, if it had just been an affair, I think he would still have been Democrats golden boy. He was going to be the one that they had before Barack Obama. Barack Obama was not the next one after Clinton. It was John Edwards. They wanted John Edwards. He was the VP pick for Kerry. They wanted him. He was the golden boy. And they thought that they could, you know, they thought they really had it made, but it turned out, you know, they didn't. So, I don't know, because it didn't really, a lot of people talked about it with Trump, the first term, but I think the thing that made it difficult in talking because i agree with you and i've said before i'm like well if you can't you know i i you know is it's a judge of it's a judge of character and that if they can't stay true to their wives can they stay true to the voter however again i think that's not the way to look at it you got to look at the currency of this Everybody has a currency. Some people want public adoration. Some people want power. And if that currency is being served, they will be faithful to that currency. They will be faithful to whatever gets that currency more so maybe than they would ever be within the bonds of marriage. And that's one thing that you can always count on and predict with certain politicians. So I think that's in some cases makes it different with POTUS. For his first term, it seemed like everything was already resolved. And I think that's what made it harder to stick. Like he was on good terms with his first wife, on good terms with his second wife. They all seemed to be reconciled to how everything went down and they were fine and everybody was getting along. None of his kids were Hunter Biden. Nobody was on drugs and running out and partying. You didn't see any bleary-eyed photos of any Trump's kids pouring out of the club at two in the morning, hopping into a car all drunk as skunks. You didn't see any of that. And I think that... kind of i think that tempered any criticism this is is what's different though this is what's different so i um with i i just think that uh i don't know i just think it's just weird it's just the whole thing i i with paxton there's a lot of rumors And there are a lot of rumors. There's a lot of different stuff that I've heard over the years. I don't know. I've never put stock in any of it. I don't pay attention to any of it. I just know that there's a lot of whispering and all of that. Whether or not that hurts him, I think, depends upon the negatives that John Cornyn has. And also, how badly do they want to get rid of John Cornyn? And how does this play out? I think some of this is going to be predicated upon the nastiness of their dissolvement of their marriage. So if it gets nasty between them is that, that could potentially overshadow his Senate bid. And then that, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I agree with that 100%.
SPEAKER 02 :
So I don't know. That's, that's just kind of like the big thing with it. I, I, I'm not going to like report on it breathlessly. Like it's TMZ and, However, I also think that for people who bring up questions as about fidelity and they say that that may be a mark against a candidate for them. I don't think that you can get mad at those people for saying that either. I mean, you're going to be like you're going to pretend to be family first or you're going to be family first. You're going to pretend to be principals first or not. I think it's just – I think it exposes people as grifters when they get mad at other individuals that they claim are on their side for espousing observations that everybody held 10 years ago that everyone kind of agreed on. And they think, yeah, it might be – that's a market against somebody's character. Believe me, I get being Machiavelli probably better than most of these people do. However, what I don't like are people getting attacked because they say, well, yes, you shouldn't be cheating on your wife or yes, you should keep it within the bonds of marriage, whatever. And I see that happening all over social media. If that's not something that you use as a standard of value, then that's fine for you. But don't look down or attack somebody else that's done probably more than you have for the conservative cause because they disagree. If you've noticed dry skin or changing texture that comes with time, you're not alone, and that's exactly what OneSkin is here to help with. Healthy skin starts at the cellular level. Taking care of your skin isn't just about looks. OneSkin's topical supplements make it easy for you to do something practical for your skincare. They're designed by a team of women scientists, and they use the proprietary OS01 peptide to target the root cause of aging, which is cellular sin sense, also known as zombie cells. These cells slow down collagen and hydration, making your skin weaker. OneSkin's OS01 peptide is clinically proven to reduce wrinkles, boost hydration, and help strengthen thinning skin. Plus, they have over 4,000 five-star reviews for their face, body, sun, and travel products. Visit OneSkin.co now and enter promo code DANASHOW to get started today with 15% off. That's OneSkin.co promo code DANASHOW for 15% off. After your purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Support your show and tell them we sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, so... There was, let's see, two people facing... Oh, no, I'm not doing that one. Oh, we're not doing any of those. I don't like those. Now, there's a billboard in Cleveland that are drawing a lot of criticism because they say, I buy... It says, I buy crack houses and your house is trash. People are... Literally, that's what it says. Is your house trash? And then it's like a guy in glasses. And so it's drawing some criticism. One of the billboards reads, yes, I buy crack houses. People are upset over it. There's a lot of backlash from community members and city officials. One particular sign has been taken down, but all the others have remained in place. Local real estate investors say the signs go too far. Somebody goes, what was your point? I didn't understand. Well, the point was that they want to buy your crack house. That's the point. The guy wants to purchase your house of crack. Or if your house is trash, he would like to buy your trash house. I mean, I think that's kind of the point, right? It seems pretty direct. Isn't that the whole point of why they're upset?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's a crack house and a trashy house.
SPEAKER 02 :
A trashy crack house. Rarely are the crack houses bougie. You know, I'm just saying like I I don't even understand what what what is this is the sign. And then these investors are like, I don't what is the point? I don't understand. Well, he wants to buy your trashy house in cash. That's what I get out of it. Yeah. Do you know that your suitcase is 58 times dirtier than a public toilet seat? What? I believe it. Who else wipes their suitcase down every time before and after you go through security? And then when you get home? Just me? Yeah, it's 58 times dirtier, according to a new study. And the wheels, obviously, are the dirtiest. So, ew. Like, they found, like, staff, a bunch of stuff I can't say, and grody stuff on these things. Ugh. Don't lick your wheels. Don't lick your suitcase wheels.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nobody does that. But I think about it now.
SPEAKER 02 :
I bet some people do.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've wheeled my suitcase into the bathroom before. So imagine rolling around on the bathroom floor that whole time.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't take my suitcase back into my room when I get back from traveling until I wipe the wheels down. Really? I always have the little wipes on me. Always. But I don't take it into my house. I can't say that for everybody else in my family. But I don't take it. I am that person. I'm going to start doing that now. I know. No, this makes me so sick. This is a travel and leisure story. So let's see. They're going to bed. They're going to ban lead ammunition for hunting and shooting in England, Scotland and Wales. Yeah, they are. It's restrictions on shots and toxic metals. What do you think the lead comes from? It comes from space. Where does the lead come from? It comes from the planet that you're on. How is it all, if it's in the planet, how is it all of a sudden toxic? You know what? Lead's toxic if you get shot with it. So just don't do that. We got a lot more on the way. Do you like the Outsiders? I mean, there's some like really cool stuff that's happening on a friend, Danny Boy O'Connor. He's doing some really big things in Tulsa. He joins us about his new book next. Stick with us. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. And I got to tell you, so you guys know Simple Minds, one of my favorite groups ever. And New Gold Dream is one of my absolute favorite songs of all time. And I played this like bumper music at some point and I got a message on Instagram and I my jaw hit the floor because it's Danny Boy O'Connor who messaged me on Instagram. And it was like one of those things where I mean, this guy's like a legend and he was a part of like a legendary like musical moment like or era in the United States. I'm like, oh, my gosh. And then he and then not only does he also love that song. But then you realize that he loves a particular author that made a major impact on you when you were growing up and a story that like resonated through the generations. And I'm talking about S.E. Hinton and the Outsiders, which that literally created an entire genre in publishing. There was no YA anything before Hinton came out with her with her books. She had fought i mean boom boom she was a teenager when she wrote this book and she had a bestseller she was like famous out of the gate very few authors get to enjoy that not just the notoriety but knowing that there is such widespread appreciation for their work as she did well then i was reading more about it and i saw that danny boy o'connor really was so invested in the story like most people get memorabilia you know they'll get like a signed copy of the book maybe if they're lucky, they might get a copy of the actual screenplay. He got the house. He literally went, he was in Tulsa, bought the outsider's house, the actual craftsman home where they filmed it. So I think I can safely say without any debate, that nobody is a bigger fan of the outsiders than Danny Boy O'Connor. And I doubt that there's a bigger film fan anywhere than Danny Boy O'Connor, who joins us now via video. My good friend, Danny, God love you. It's so good to see you.
SPEAKER 03 :
So good to see you and get to talk to you. It's been a long time coming, and I definitely remember reaching out to you. You have a fantastic choice in bumper music. I said I think the only one who comes close was the late, great Art Bell, who had a very eclectic taste in music. Some of it I didn't think I would like, but you hear it long enough and you'd learn to love it. But you and me, I feel like if somebody found my iPod, they would probably return it to you because we like a lot of the same stuff. And for a dude who grew up doing hip hop all his life, people have survived that I'm like into New Wave or, you know, The Cult or Sisters of Mercy or all of the stuff that I like. That's really what I listen to full time and have done since day one. But yeah, that's so good to meet you. And I love your show. And yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, thank you. I'm a big fan of yours as well. And the fact that I just had my musical taste affirmed, I'm like going to forever keep that. It's going to be my epitaph. I want to talk to you about your efforts in Tulsa because I also love The Outsiders. And I think I read this thing about it where it was talking about how libraries and teachers really helped maintain the popularity of that book through multiple generations. And that's how I first read it in school. And it was... a non-condescending way of talking about the differences between people and a search for inclusion. And it was, and I think it was so non-condescending because it was written by a teenager. And I think this book has impacted everybody in some way, but you most significantly, because when you were in Tulsa, I read that you had somebody that was taking you around to look at where they were filming the outsiders and you saw this house and you ended up buying this house.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so some of that is correct. I went on tour and we played Tulsa in 2009. We played the famous Canes Ballroom. We had never played as House of Pain, my original group, but we played it as another group called La Coconostra, which was an amalgamation of House of Pain and a couple other groups. And it was that tour that I ended up stumbling upon Tulsa. And then I realized, oh, my God, this is where they filmed The Outsider. So I went looking for locations. Never in a million years did I think I'd buy the house. But for the next five years, God had a funny plan. And I kept making my way to Tulsa somehow. And at year five, after the fifth year of coming here, I realized that if somebody doesn't step up and do something, this house might get torn down.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it was going to.
SPEAKER 03 :
went and found the owner. It was really hard to find her. She was living in Florida. She inherited the house and she had tenants that were eight months behind in rent. And so we told her we would be interested in hearing her offer. And when I first found it in 2009, they were asking $42,000 for the house. I ended up, I'll cut to the chase. I ended up paying $15,000 for the house. Wow. Jaw drop. Couldn't believe I was the new owner of the outsider's house. But when I got here to Tulsa and... saw what I actually bought, I realized it was a fair deal. But that's where my life story changes because When you're six foot six and an alpha male, for me, it was hard to ask for help. But when I got here, I had to really admit that I didn't know what I was doing. And I'm not the guy who's like, I'm not the contractor guy or not to build you things. I'm a creative director, but I'm not like in that area. And I asked for help. And I tell you what, Dana, the people of Tulsa put me on high, surrounded me. They cut the lawn. They fixed the roof. They painted the whatever. They were so amazing.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just invested in it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Yeah. And and I decided, you know what, I'm never going home. And home was Los Angeles, California for the last 48 years. And after six months of working on this project, I said, I'm moving to Tulsa and I've been here for eight years. I love everything about it. The people here are great. And yeah. There's so much opportunity here. Not only what, you know, there's rich music and film history here, but there's a budding film industry growing on here right now. And Leon Russell's also from here. So there's a church studios right down the street from our museum that has also been restored into an incredible museum. And it's a handful of things that are going on right now. When I first got here in 2009, you couldn't say all of the things that I can name off that are that are popping right now in Tulsa. But right now, Tulsa is on fire in the best possible way. And it's I couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
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And you're helping to put it on the map. I want to tell everybody about Danny's new book, The Oral History of the Outsider, Staying Gold, how S.E. Hinton's novel and Francis Ford Coppola's movie became cult classics and launched today's Hollywood icons to superstardom because there were I mean, it was an amazing I know it was done like on a shoestring budget. Because I know when Coppola was making this movie, he was, you know, he was coming out. He already had The Godfather success. This was coming out in 83. But he was able to put together this amazing, like a dream cast of who you would want to play in this. The Brat Pack. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Emilio Estevez, Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon, C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macchio, Diane Lane, Leif Garrett. I mean, everybody guys went on, you know, and took the 80s over by storm. So, yeah, it's an incredible cast, but nothing beats the author and incredible director to Coppola. I'm a huge.
SPEAKER 02 :
He's one of my favorites. I mean, goodness.
SPEAKER 03 :
But. I told Susie Hinton when I first met her, I said, there's there's nobody has had me more in fear to meet the person. And I've met everybody growing up in Hollywood that you could meet. I said, Susie, I almost canceled on our date because I was I just didn't think I'd had it in me to do it. And she said, well, but we hit it off straight away. She's a fantastic woman. She wrote the book when she was 15 and a half.
SPEAKER 02 :
And she donated to this museum, too. Not to interrupt you, but she didn't. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
She's the number one supporter financially and just of giving us the blessing. But her story is really what hit home for me because, you know, she wrote that book at 15 and a half. She failed English D plus in creative writing that year. The book has never been out of print in over 42 years. It sells every year. There's a new crop of outsiders fans. The reason it becomes a movie is because the librarian noticed a tipping point with her students. She said, Danny, the girls would read anything I give them, but the boys, nuh-uh. And she said, I gave them this book, and they devoured it. So she said, I'm going to have 100 of them write to Francis Ford Coppola, of all people, and ask him to look at this book and perhaps turn it into a movie.
SPEAKER 02 :
I love that story.
SPEAKER 03 :
I said, why would you do that? I said, he was the godfather one and two in Apocalypse Now at that time. She goes, yeah, but he did such a masterful job staying true to the black stallion that I thought he'd be a shoo-in. And so there's so many... Courses of miracles that had to happen for this book to turn into a movie, the movie to turn into a museum, and now the museum to turn into a Broadway musical, which just took four Tony Awards and is sweeping the nation. It's going to kick off here in October at the Tulsa PAC. I love that.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's amazing.
SPEAKER 03 :
It just keeps growing and growing and growing.
SPEAKER 02 :
I love this story with Coppola. He said that when he got, I read an interview where he said that he got this big thick packet and all these kids had their signatures. And he said, I looked at every signature and you could tell they were all individual, like these little signatures. And he was like, I had to read it after that. I had to.
SPEAKER 03 :
He got on a flight. They sent it to the wrong address in New York. And then his assistant brought it back to LA and he was getting on another flight to go to New York. And he said, there was nothing to read on the plane. So I dug in that packet and I started finding all these letters. By the time I got off that flight, I knew we had to make this movie. So.
SPEAKER 02 :
And he did and he fought to make it happen in Tulsa. And I know I don't want to give all the mysteries away of the museum, but I know that there was a mystery involving the director's chair because you have Coppola's director's chair. It's at I know you have tons of stuff at the house, but you have that chair. It went missing for a while.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, it was stolen on the set of Rumblefish, which is also an S.E. Hinton book. And Coppola also did that movie.
SPEAKER 02 :
Came out the same year.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, two weeks later, after wrapping The Outsiders, he went right into Rumblefish, also filmed in Tulsa. And I guess... Somebody experiencing homelessness at that time decided they needed a chair. And Coppola, everybody broke character to go save his chair. And he said, guys, we're here to make a movie. If he wants the chair, let him have it. So a wonderful man named Gary Johnson, a retired Tulsa PD guy, found the chair two weeks later behind a liquor store. A guy was living there and he was playing games on the train tracks. They thought he was trying to kill himself. So he was there to evict him. He said, you grab your chair. Wait. Where'd you get that chair? And he's like, that's not my chair. You want that chair? So he said, Danny, I had that in my man cave for 34 years until you got to town. He said, that was going to Valhalla with me. But since you're doing this incredible work, we want to donate it to you. And so that began my journey. And then I started to build an incredible collection. there's nothing that comes close to our collection of not only her books, movie memorabilia from wardrobe to cars in the movie. And now I collect all of her work, and the dream is to do an S.E. Hinton Museum.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's amazing. And I think that's definitely deserving. I don't know anybody that has so many hits at that young, like right out of the gate, was writing bestsellers. You did. We're talking to our awesome friend, Danny Boy O'Connor, and the Oral History of the Outsiders, his new book, The Early Orders You Can Do Right Now, Barnes & Noble, 25% off today's last day. You were so faithful to the restoration of this house. I was reading about how detailed you were getting. Like you were even you were like looking at the like, for the lack of a better word, like screen grabs, trying to get the tint of the wallpaper correctly, like marks on appliances. Like you were so faithful to this. What inspired that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Probably my OCD. You know what? I knew that I was such a fan and I knew that there were a lot of fans like me and I knew that if it didn't pass a test, you know, it was not going to. The last thing I wanted kids to come out and go, that's not how it looked. So I was obsessed with it. It took three and a half years. I remember the first interview I did, they said, how long do you think it'll be? This is up and running. I said, give me three, three and a half months, you know, three and a half years later. And, you know, $250,000 worth of stuff, not to count the gifts in kind. We cut the ribbon. But if you were to give me another three years, that's how much of a perfectionist, because I wanted this thing to be as equally like it has to represent S.C. Hinton. It's not about, you know, as much as it's about her legacy and how this book has reached children. And you said it, you nailed it. It's about the right side of the tracks and the wrong side of the tracks, proverbially. what she says is we saw the same sunset although our worlds were two you know completely different places we saw the same sunset for me that's finding a mutual thing that we both can like whether you're left right black white doesn't matter we both look up see a beautiful creation the sunset that god made even by default if we both like it it brings us one step closer and so that's what we do at that place and uh i will end by telling you that uh we did have close to six thousand school students tour the museum the last semester that just passed before they went into summer. And that was an unexpected consequence of building this museum. I built this museum for me and your husband to look at switchblades and Matt Dillon's leather jackets and stuff like that. But it's really a museum driven by the kids. And the educational component that we're trying to build out is why we're doing a gala coming up in October on the 12th on the heels of this musical that's going to come to town.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's amazing. I want to share with everybody before I let you go talk with Danny Boy O'Connor, this quote that I read from you, which I thought was so incredibly profound. And it kind of hit me the same way as like the message of the outsiders and the way that you approached restoring this house into this museum. You said, I think as a nation or as a people in the past, we've looked at pop culture as being disposable. And now the things that were once disposable to us become more important than, say, like a Monet. And you said, I've been to Amsterdam. I've seen Rembrandt. It's a brilliant painting, but I don't relate to that in any way. There's no part of my DNA in that. And The Outsiders is like a rite of passage. I love this because I think – You're good.
SPEAKER 03 :
You dug that one out. That's good.
SPEAKER 02 :
That is –
SPEAKER 03 :
such a great deal i mean i mean fonzie raised me and and and jachi and joni and and and you know sha na na was the the guys i wanted to look like because they looked like the guys in brooklyn where i grew up originally before i came to california everybody i knew was like a sha na na type character so when i saw the outsiders i thought well listen i don't have much but if i had a band of brothers that would surround me and me surround them and just look out for each other that this life would be doable and so it sure has been but uh I don't believe that I would have had the success that I've had here in Tulsa if this house wasn't Los Angeles or New York. It's just people here are cut from a different cloth and I'm never leaving.
SPEAKER 02 :
Amen to that. Danny Boy O'Connor, the book, you got to get it now, The Oral History of the Outsider, Stain Gold. And you can do that pre-order right now. uh barnes and noble and it comes out this fall and of course the musical we'll make sure we remind everybody about the gala uh i'm gonna get down there and visit it because i love the book i've been to tulsa we got affiliates in tulsa i gotta get down there and i gotta go visit i gotta go look at the switchblades and i gotta go look at this director's chair and the jacket and the car and everything else danny boy o'connor god bless you my friend and icon in so many different ways and you're just keeping on going appreciate you thank you my friend stay gold that's right
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In this explosive episode of The Dana Show, Dana takes a blowtorch to the media’s carefully constructed narrative surrounding a chaotic ICE raid in California. What was reported as an innocent strawberry farm raid reveals itself to be a front for a massive illegal marijuana operation using child labor—ten minors, many unaccompanied and here illegally, were found working in shocking conditions. ICE agents served a criminal warrant, only to be met with armed resistance and political outrage—not from the perpetrators, but from California officials like Gavin Newsom. Dana exposes the left’s twisted priorities, the media’s word games, and the glaring hypocrisy surrounding immigration, labor laws, and law enforcement. From the weaponization of January 6th comparisons to Newsom’s bizarre insult-laden tweets, Dana shreds the gaslighting and gets to the truth. Plus, a hilarious takedown of the fake 60s AI folk band that duped Spotify and more commentary on the absurdities of the modern progressive movement. This is one you don’t want to miss.
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That report and take a look at this video right here. It appears a protester fired some kind of gun at federal agents. This happened this afternoon. It was a really chaotic scene at the time. A lot of smoke was being launched at the protesters. And again, it appears a protester fired back with that weapon. It looks like he fired at least a couple of times. We have not heard about any agents being hurt.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, I think one of the things that we can say without any hesitation at this point is that Democrats are shooting at ICE agents. And I was told again for the millionth time that this was an insurrection. I noticed the the way that they reported it. Well, looks like it's some kind of a gun chick. That's a gun. That dude has a gun. And they were firing at ICE agents. And I've watched this clip. I've watched like a million of these clips since this happened yesterday. And we're going to dive into it if you don't know what the full story was. They raided a marijuana farm. Farm or like, yeah, farm, right? Like a pot farm, I guess. I don't think that there's any other word for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was really shocking, the people that they took into custody at this place. And we're going to dive into it because there were kids there. They had children at this thing. And so, you know, I'm... Reading about I'm reading Gavin Newsom's tweets and all this other stuff and Gavin Newsom is, you know, he's he's very upset. He's out there very upset about all of this for some reason. I don't know why he's the one who's upset because this is they knew that this was happening this entire time. I mean, this farm has been there for from what I understand for quite a while. It's it's been there for quite a while. And so I don't know why they're the why, you know, he's he's not more upset that that was happening and that there was, you know, some kind of that they were literally using child labor at this thing. And we'll share with you his tweets. We're also going to jump into some of the latest as it pertains to because we have more immigration issues to discuss as well. And we're also going to dive into I got some culture. I got some Hollywood for you because apparently there's going to be a movie or well, a series, I think, made. about the American Revolution. And it's Ken Burns that's going to be doing it, and I'm a little concerned. Although I thought he did such a great job with the Civil War documentary back in the day. I have to say I'm a little concerned with what this is going to look like because Hollywood's changed since that was made. And you don't know what it's going to look like. So welcome to the show. It's Friday. And we'll get you set up for the weekend. But this is what happened. I'm pulling up a couple of my other stories on this. This is what happened last night. This was in California where they have gun control. Kane, why didn't the gun control work? I don't know. They are supposed to have gun control. And they raided this pot farm. And the farm that they raided, I mean, like I said, it's been there for a little while. They had pulling up this statement from the Customs and Border Commissioner. And they said 10 juveniles were found at the marijuana facility, all of them illegal aliens. Eight of them were unaccompanied. Now they're under investigation also for child labor violations. So they had 10 children that they found at this place, 10 kids. And they said eight of them were unaccompanied. I was thinking about all of this. And then let me pull up my story. I had to archive it. This is the New York Times piece where... They discussed how there were how many like 100,000 kids that were missing that had been brought in from over. Remember the story that remember the whole story came?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there's 300,000 kids missing during the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, this was over. It was somewhere around. The numbers were again because you're they're not entirely credible. Because you can't really trust a lot of the reporting from people coming across the border. So it was anywhere from, I think it was like 238,000 all the way up to like 255,000. And then they said, well, we think that there's even more with gotaways, etc. But the point is, is they were all children. And I don't mean like 19-year-old children or 20-year-old children. I mean like 8-year-old children. They were all little kids. And the story that the New York Times did, and this piece was, I've shared it with you a million times. So if you're a subscriber, you got it somewhere. I've shared it with you quite a bit. It's a couple of years old. But it was one of the most honest pieces of reporting. I can't believe I'm saying this. One of the most honest pieces of reporting ever. uh that we've seen any of the kids that they haven't recovered i kind of fear like went into this child labor situation this is audio somebody three this was trump talking about it listen
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, something that you should have that you haven't reported. As you know, 300,000 children are missing, right? 300,000 under Biden. We've already gotten back 10,000 of those children, and we have a lot more planned to come back. We're getting them back by the thousands. But 300,000, and as of this morning, over 10,000 we've gotten back.
SPEAKER 21 :
All of these kids. And you remember it was... Was it Alejandro Mayorkas who had said that... he was upset with the different department agencies, and this was under Biden-Harris and the earlier part of Biden's term. He was upset with these department agencies that were supposed to be dealing with this. He said that they didn't process these kids fast enough and that Henry Ford would be disappointed. It's supposed to be like a conveyor belt in terms of the speed with which they just funnel these kids through and release them. And the New York Times had this huge story as to they lost contact with so many of these kids. And the ones that they did find, they would find literally working child labor. They would find them working in factories, et cetera. And a lot of them were going to the same areas because, you know, the cartels have a racket inside the United States where they have set up basically slavery. with people coming across the border, particularly children. And so under Biden-Harris, they completely lost all, they lost like all control of this. They don't know where anybody is anymore. No, they had no clue. And then these kids started popping up. So is anybody surprised that we're seeing them there at this thing, at this farm? I mean, they're wanting to keep illegal child labor. That's what this is. I don't know how else you spin this. All of the remarks that I've seen about this from the left, from these elected Democrat officials, have been they're upset because they feel like they're just targeting people picking strawberries. That's literally how they have been putting it. Cain, you know, it's not pot. It's just strawberries. I mean, it's a pot farm.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's not labor. It's just labor.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, it's just they're there. They said they went and they raided these kids that were just picking strawberries. Wait a minute. Can you be mad about the kids being forced to work for five seconds? Holy cow. They said it was a strawberry farm. It's a strawberry farm. And it was a pot farm. They were actually serving a criminal warrant that was signed by a federal judge. And then that's when you had the mob that fired back. And then they had a standoff with them. But they said that the way that it was going, the way that the narrative was that it was picking strawberries. Jimmy Gomez said, quote, how many MS-13 gang members are waking up at 3 a.m. to pick strawberries? Oh, yeah, zero. Trump said he'd go after the bad hombres, but he's targeting immigrant farm workers who feed America. Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, that's incredibly dishonest. It was a criminal warrant being served at a pot farm. It wasn't a strawberry farm. No one's frying up pot leaves and eating them like arugula. There's literally no food that's being grown at the pot farm. There are no strawberries that are being grown at the pot farm. The only thing that is being grown and farmed at the pot farm...
SPEAKER 1 :
This pot.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's it.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know what's funny? Yeah. His actual strawberry farms don't even claim they're feeding America.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah. No one's feeding America with a strawberry farm. I mean, they're delicious, but let's be honest about it. Good night. What are they? I'm like, I'm surprised that they're not freaking out. Like this was our daycare facility. How dare you raid the daycare facility? Who's going to pick our weed now? Oh, yeah. Sorry. Strawberries. That explains a lot, though, about some of these Democrats, though. I'm just saying. But I really can I just pause right here? And I don't mean to, like, stall out over one particular aspect of this topic. I really need someone to explain to me how the pot farm turned into a strawberry farm. Is anybody of any ideas? How in the world does a pot farm turn into a strawberry farm? How did that happen? Where did that come from? Did they just decide, let's make up something cute and sweet? Strawberries.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know. Aren't they legally growing it there? The pot? Yeah. So why would they need to cover up the fact that they're growing it?
SPEAKER 21 :
You're telling me. I mean, I am pretty sure that there are a lot of Americans that would take the job working at a pot farm.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Seems like it'd be easy.
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, I'm probably sure you would get, so like my mom, when I was a little bitty kid, she worked a number of jobs all at the same time. And she worked over nights at a factory that packaged granola bars for Quaker. And we would get like bags of granola bars. So I'm just saying, I don't know if they do the same thing at the pot farm, but I'm sure that there's some people in the country that would work at the pot farm to get the equivalent of that. You know, I'm just saying.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've already been the beneficiary of Dana's farm.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, well, you haven't gotten a lot. I'm only giving you, like, and tomato and pepper because I'm waiting for everything else to come in.
SPEAKER 09 :
Proportionally, very generous.
SPEAKER 21 :
So we're going to revisit this because we're not done exploring this topic. And some of the, oh, man, some of the spin that's happening, it's pretty harsh. It's pretty hardcore. So we're going to dive into all of that. And then we've got, what else do we have here? Oh, gosh, I really don't want to talk about Texas politics. Can we just speed on past that little topic? I would love to. So we're going to dive into all of that and more as we move. The folks who help bring you the program, it is the people over at Burnout Gun. And I'm always going to tell you to carry. I have no problem carrying. I have no problem using lethal force to protect my life. I do have a problem with... municipal restrictions or private property restrictions that want to disarm me and make me a literal defenseless piece of prey for any kind of predator. But unfortunately, this is you know, we have some people who think that magic that gun free zones are magic and work and they don't. But long story short, you want to be able to protect yourself when all of your other options have been eliminated. And this is where the burner gun comes in. burner gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. And unlike regular traditional stun guns, this has like, I mean, they have like maybe one or two rounds. This is five. And they have two different versions. I mean, they've got rifles and all kinds of stuff. But for this, I think you need the SD, which is their most popular model. And it's a pistol. And then the CL, which is like, you know, a compact pistol. It stands for compact launcher. And it is a small I mean, it's like similarly sized to a smartphone, but it packs the same deterrent power that the SD does. Super affordable. But here's the kicker. No background checks, no waiting periods, no permits, doesn't care about gun free zone signs or any of that stuff. It's great for college kids that aren't old enough to carry, but yet are still living on their own in a different town and going to school and have to be out and about. And it can be shipped directly to your door, so it's accessible for everybody. You can visit Burna.com slash Dana. Get your hands on the new Burna C-L-B-Y-R-N-A. Burna.com slash Dana. Ready when you are.
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SPEAKER 21 :
This is some story. It's the Daily Star, so it's a British paper. A fabled 60s folk rock band that took charts by storm outed as an AI-generated group. So this was done on Spotify, and they were called Velvet Sundown, and they acted like it was like a group from the 60s. I mean, you can kind of look at it. I'm sorry. I could look at the image, and I'm like, that's AI. You look like A.I. because it just doesn't look nice. It doesn't look right. It doesn't look real. They released their debut album, Floating on Echoes. And then they like a million followers on Spotify. And then now everyone's like, oh, my gosh, it came out that it was they don't actually exist. And everything was done with A.I. Like the imagery, the music, everything was done using A.I. And I hate everything. This is first off. Of course, they did it with a dirty hippie band. Of course they did. Right. Of course they did. You look at the photo and you're like, that's A.I. generated. Yeah. How do you not look at that and not realize that it's AI? That's AI.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's a picture from the 60s.
SPEAKER 21 :
Those people look like they're from the 60s. That man on the bottom right, his hair, he is like, does not have a, none of them have a 60s vibe. There's all a modernity about it that makes it. And the fact that it's AI is doubly gross. But I feel like all the people who got swindled by it deserve to be. Because it's what you get when you listen to 60s folk rock. I'm going to mess this up. Could psilocybin... Oh, great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Did I do it?
SPEAKER 21 :
That's perfect. I did it. Is it the magical ingredient for a shorter life? According to one study, it says yes. Now, that doesn't mean that you go trip off your beans on shrooms. That's not what that means. But they said that they were looking at the... I'm not going to get into the super specificity of it, but there's basically a chemical that they were looking at which could actually be used to Increase longevity. Yes. So that's, it's not like they're telling everyone to go out there and start. I don't even know how, would you just eat the shroom? What do you do with it? Okay, good. Okay, non-drug question, or like drug question from a non-druggy. Do you like cook them? Like do you stir fry them? Would you grill them like you would a portabella? Or do you just like eat them?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, I don't think it's like the food mushrooms.
SPEAKER 21 :
I've never even seen one. Yeah. Like the baddies.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think some of them are so powerful you have to have much, much smaller amounts. Oh, could you? Can't be stir-frying a portabella and it being one of those psilocybin type things.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, okay. I was just curious. But yeah, they said that they think that there is, there's a compound within it. that can contribute towards extending lifespan. So that's what it's about. We had the Amazon package yesterday. 3 in 10, we had this one too. And the robot that performed the surgery. Yeah, we had also that as well. We were talking about the Ken Burns. We'll come up with that here shortly and dive into all of that. We have a lot more on the way, including getting into some of the latest with Democrats in New York. We also have Greece that is now enforcing immigration law. What? I know. It's very weird. So we're going to dive into all of that and more coming up on the Dana Show. Stick with us. It is our friends over at Super Beats, their product, Super Breen. You can get it at, I mean, you can like, it's from the same people who do the Super Beats hard shoes. And now they have the Super Breen. You can walk into a Sam's Club and get it. and it's less than a dollar a day. You can invest in metabolism and blood sugar support. And that's what Superberine does. It's not just any berberine that they use either. I mean, this is a, it's like a bougie berberine, if I'm being honest, but there's a reason. It's clinically studied. It delivers nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. And they accomplish this in a number of different ways. They make it to where it's a higher absorption and It's concentrated, so you're getting all of the goodness in just one easy-to-swallow capsule. And if you're worried about GI distress, Super Bering includes grapeseed extract that improves, adds for greater tolerability as well. You can find both the new Super Bering for your metabolism and blood sugar and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Chews all at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with the Super Beats Heart Chews and expand your routine with Super Bering for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support.
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People are welcome to protest. They have their First Amendment rights, but they can't cross that line. They can't impede us from doing our job. That's a felony. They certainly can't put hands on an agent. That's a felony. So what happened in California is just another example of protesters becoming criminals. And they've been emboldened by even members of Congress who compare ICE to Nazis and racists and terrorists. I mean, the rhetoric is so high. And I said two months ago, it's going to end up with a loss of life. And we had one the other day in Texas.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, yeah. I mean, and now this is the stuff that we're seeing. That's Tom Homan. They have to literally arrest 7,000 illegal aliens a day. That is crazy math. Yeah. I mean, man, that's 7,000 a day. Okay, hear me out. So instead of, like, video games, let's have, like, Drone Watch, a civilian program that just, like, you know, monitors the border so no one else comes in. And then we assist. Just saying. Then we assist. Yeah. border patrol and ice and you know catching some bad hombres also why isn't there like a really cool like alternative country western band called bad hombres like why doesn't that exist just had that it's friday so thoughts are flying uh welcome back to the program i think we got everything in all our ducks in a row here the um This was this is in Ventura. So this was more footage from this ICE raid. And again, it wasn't they were serving a criminal warrant that was signed by a federal judge. But this is the raid. This is more footage from it. And people were like they were having a standoff. So it's not like ice. We've got to make this clear. Ice didn't just roll in and was like, let's start tear gassing everybody. They didn't do that. That's not how it worked. They rolled in. People were hostile. They were attacked and they responded. It's like typically how cause and effect works. You know what I'm saying? And then they had all these kids that they you see some kids in the background. They're running away. Oh, my gosh. Then you have these kids that were that were in trouble that because I don't even they can't even confirm if they were brought there with family members or not. That's another thing no one in the media is talking about. They can't even confirm. And they were asked this. I saw this on X. They they can't even confirm that the kids that were brought in or that that were there were even there with like family members or people that they know. They know they have no idea. These kids might just have been like sold already. To this pot farm, whoever's running it, and that's how it's working. They just have no choice in it. They're just chattel. This is unreal. I retweeted a couple of things. Well, actually, I responded to Gavin Newsom. Because Gavin Newsom has, this is pretty unbelievable. He's been, he was the one saying that it was despicable that this is happening. He was criticizing POTUS for some reason. I have no idea why. And then I've seen some Democrats go, well, he should be focusing on what's happening in Texas and not this. These are, I mean, real tweets from these actual people. I wanted to pull this one up. So he had tweeted about this. I guess he's not having a great, he's not having a good day. Gavin Newsom's not having a good day. He had tweeted, where did I respond to it? bear with me. X is slow today. Everything is nuts. But he had, he was, he was tweeting to it. He was tweeting about it saying, I condemn any assault on law enforcement. Oh my gosh. I can't actually, we almost read that. I can't read that one. He, he basically called someone a, um, A feces poster, a fecal poster. He called Libs of TikTok a fecal poster because Libs of TikTok had shared a video showing one of the illegal aliens pulling a gun on the ICE agents. And Newsom tweeted, quote, of course, I condemn any assault on law enforcement, you fecal poster. Now to January 6th. OK, first off, this was attempted murder, not just assault. This is so insane. It I mean, it was attempted murder, pulling out a gun and trying to shoot and murder a federal agent. That's not just mere assault. Also, is it befitting of his office to refer to people as fecal posters? Is it is it is that good for Gavin Newsom to do that for him to refer to them as such? And also, let's talk about January 6th. Let's do that. Let's talk about January 6th. Because January 6th, the only person that pulled out a gun was a Capitol Police officer who fired it indiscriminately into a crowd of people. He violated the number one rule of firearm safety, which is know your target and what's behind it. He had no clue what was behind his target. He was just going to try to shoot and kill Alicia Babbitt, which he successfully did. And the left finally discovered a police shooting that they loved. And they celebrated him for it and gave him awards and all of this. That was the only person who had a gun drawn on them and who was killed. So if he wants to compare this to January 6th, okay, I'm your huckleberry. Let's take that. Because this is worse than anything ever for January 6th. Are you kidding me? This is worse than anything imaginable. Look at all of the attacks on ICE agents recently. And they're going after their families? So the left went ahead and said it. They decided to they decided to equivocate. So I'm just going to go ahead and say that this is I mean, it is it's like way it's worse than January 6th. And here's the other thing. The guy who drew down on the ICE agent, he's just running out there free and loose. The FBI wants to give $50,000 to anybody that has information about the guy who opened fire on these federal agents. They want to give out a $50,000 award for it because they don't have him in custody. It was the U.S. District Attorney for the U.S. Attorney for Central District of California. They said the FBI is offered a $50,000 award for for information leading to the conviction of this unknown suspect who fired a pistol at law enforcement officers. I'm not going to say appeared to fire a pistol because he had a gun in his hand and he fired the damn thing. Look how cautious media is being right now. That's a whole other aspect of the story. Well, he may have a shooting instrument. But if you are. even suspected of not being a Democrat and you have a firearm, then you have a full-on, high-clip capacity, super shooty assault machine that runs on unicorn juice. I don't know. That's what they say. They just run with it. But when it's an illegal alien, they're like, well, he appears to be raising an object and it appears to be doing something. Well, that is a gun that he has, you butthats. That's a gun. Why are they being so cautious with this? For the love. These are the people who said, oh gosh, what was the kid in Wisconsin? Rittenhouse. Yeah, Kyle Rittenhouse. They were trying to say Kyle Rittenhouse was just indiscriminately killing black people. And he wasn't. He literally was like shooting at white pedophiles that were trying to attack him. I mean, I'm not just saying white pedophile. Literally one of them went to jail for it. So it's not just like, you know, hyperbole. This is the media that anytime they hear anything, they immediately about involving a firearm, they immediately want to condemn everybody who supports the Second Amendment as being somehow culpable in mass murder. But with this, a precious illegal alien at a pot farm? No, this dear sir was just raising an object, Kate. It appeared to be a gun, but we're stupid reporters. We don't know because of politics. So, and Newsom is not mad that an angry, violent mob tried to obstruct justice. Wait, does it sound familiar? Because that's what they accused people of on January 6th. He's not mad that there was an angry mob at a pot farm and they had child laborers and that they were facing off against ICE agents. No, no, no, no, no. He's mad at Trump. And he said, quote, Trump calls me new scum, but he's the real scum. Oh, my gosh. This is like the worst thing. Like rat beef ever. So boring. Same thing back and forth. The most unimaginative. He's the real scum. Says what he he says, quote, instead of supporting the businesses and workers that drive our economy and the way of life, these tactics evoke chaos, fear and terror. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What tactics? The tactic of human trafficking? The tactic of selling fentanyl to our communities? The tactic of literally forcing child labor? What tactics particularly are you talking about here? This is Strawberry Fields. They act like it's a damn Beatles song.
SPEAKER 20 :
Strawberry Fields forever. But they're just picking strawberries, Kane.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, okay, sure, sure. This is what they're upset over. Rodney Scott, who's Customs and Border Protection Commissioner, he was the one who said, yeah, breaking 10 juveniles were found at this facility, all of them here illegally. So Newsom is upset. He's like, well, they're just tearing children away from families. Where? Before they traffic them across the border to go work illegally at pot farms? At what point do you get upset over that? Right? Jeez. This could have... Can you imagine if an ICE agent would have been killed and then they would have had to open fire to defend themselves? Can you imagine? Dear heavens. At some point, the luck on this is going to run out, guys. This is... It's just... It's horrific. Now, in addition to this, speaking of ongoing immigration, I've got a couple of other issues about this for you. So, this... It's not a strawberry field as we've discovered. It's not that at all. And then you I'm sure that there's going to be more of these happening because when you get a criminal warrant, you can go serve that criminal warrant. It's not the same thing as a raid. So I'm sure we're going to see more of these instances and I'm sure we're going to see you already had Democrats that were meeting at town hall saying that people need to be more violent in response to this stuff. So they're trying to agitate as much as possible. They would love to parlay this into some kind of momentum for midterms. That's the scary thing about it. In the meantime, in New York, they're struggling to absorb some of the cuts. They act like it's a big, giant cut. It's not. But there are some. The bill that the Medicaid programs, because states are being required to step up where it concerns Medicaid so that we're not paying for the stupid programs that New York is doing. The budget chief for Democratic Governor Kathy Hochul was warning that the state is going to suffer a $750 million hit this year because of cuts to the essential plan that take effect on January 1st. They said that amounts to a $3 billion annual cut when the state's new fiscal year starts on April 1st. They said no one's prepared to backfill that $3 billion in cuts from Congress. So they did not spend money wisely, and they demand that U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for $3 billion and... The difference. Oh, boy. And the essential plan, people who are they said that it covers one point six million low income New Yorkers who are eligible for Medicaid and it relies on billions of dollars in federal funding. Guess who takes advantage of that essential plan? Yeah, illegal aliens. That's the other part of it, that they're not telling anyone. They wanted to shift and put people on this benefit program. Now, they were trying to say, well, they're not generally eligible for it, but they have been signed up for it. There have been news stories on this. So this idea that they have not been that they have been excluded from it is false. We have more on this coming up. We also have days of these United States on the way as we roll towards the conclusion of this first hour. Our partners that bring you the program, Alio Capital. This is such a great use of AI, like the way that AI should be used with the next generation investing platform. They put control and macro strategy in your hands and create smart, resilient portfolios with it. Now, how they do this is Alio uses AI and top-down macro thinking to help you build a strong portfolio without the jargon and the hype and all this stuff. They're not going to do meme stocks. It's just going to be actual, durable, diversified strategies. And you can see the big picture and know how that affects... uh, you know, your portfolio real time. I mean, you can see it act in real time, a shift to inflation rates, global risk, and Alio supports both hands on and hands off investors. So you can manage your own investment or you can let AI handle it. Alio gives you all of the tools that you need for smart, confident, macro driven investing. And so this is a such a, it's such a great way to do this. And the people who created it use this. I mean, I've created an account. I And that's what adapts it to all of these real-time shifts. It's so super smart and really one of the best ways to use AI. Take control of your financial future today. Download the Allio app from the App Store or Google Play. You can also text my name, Dana, to 511-511. That's A-L-L-I-O, Allio Capital. Download the Allio app or text Dana to 511-511 today.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 12 :
They're always hedging, you know, because in the back of our minds, we weren't raised with the certainty of maleness that, you know, kind of the confidence that young men in their 30s have, which they haven't earned. They just have it. We don't start feeling that and owning that until our 50s and 60s at a time when we start to be treated as invisible in society. What is she talking about?
SPEAKER 21 :
Who the hell sits down and is like, I'm going to devote an hour of my life to the Michelle Obama podcast. Everybody's got a podcast these days. Jiminy Christmas. Welcome back to the show. What is this phrase? What did she say? Sorry. Certainty of maleness. What does that even mean? What does it even mean? We weren't raised with the certainty of maleness. Like, what is uncertain about it?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think they mean fatherless homes, maybe?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, that sounds smart.
SPEAKER 09 :
Certainty of maleness would be a father in the home, right?
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, that's what you would think, but that's probably not what they're talking about because that sounds intelligent.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 21 :
Who pays her to do this? Who's like, I want to have somebody who's actually, like, not even mid-Oprah. Sit here and just run about the certainty of maleness. Like, what is the audience for this? Who sits and listens to that? It's she just it's her delivery. Her words aren't any different from Kamala Harris's. It's just her delivery. Her delivery is better. And so it makes you think for a minute. Wait a minute. Maybe it's not word salad. No, but it is. It's word salad. It's like the Southern Baptist preacher speaking technique. you know, by the way, you can't get mad at me. I was raised Southern Baptist, uh, where you, you know, you are dramatic and you can say, you know, you deliver things like that. It sounds authoritative and like, you really know what you're talking about and very important. And you could just be reading, you know, Kraft Mac and cheese box. And it's, you know, sounds like really impressive. I just yeah, I'm pretty sure we were raised. I mean, if you weren't raised with the certainty of maleness, then you were brainwashed abusively. So if you had no concept of the certainty of maleness, what is that? I don't even understand what these words mean that she when she strings them together like this. Like, you didn't know that men existed? Or you did, but you still questioned it? That sounds like a you problem. That's not a societal problem. That sounds like a you being confused problem. You being raised wrong problem. That's what it sounds like. I don't know. Is this her own podcast, or is she a guest on someone else's?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it's hers. It's hers. Yeah, it's IMO. IMO, which means In My Opinion, I think.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. But also, I'm Michelle Obama. Oh, my gosh. That's so bad. Oh, good catch, Kay.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's so bad. Oh, that's right. Yeah. You know that they thought that they probably focus grouped it then. But we weren't raised with a certainty of maleness. Yeah, we pretty much were. Why is there all of this questioning over it? I mean, it's science. Why are there all these questions?
SPEAKER 09 :
Also, how are they so certain they're against toxic masculinity or masculinity in general if they can't also admit there is and be certain of masculinity?
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't believe in toxic masculinity, but I absolutely believe in toxic femininity. It's the third and fourth wave matriarchal society. I mean, I'm going to tell you, gents, nobody dislikes them bitches more than, you know, the chicks who are not that, okay? Like, nobody dislikes them more. We got our second hour coming up. We got some fun guests for you today as well. Danny Boy O'Connor is going to be joining us. He was in House of Pain, but he's also a major, major fan of The Outsiders. We got a lot of stuff to discuss. Stick around. The folks at Angel Studios, we often talk about the lack of quality and the quantity that comes out of Hollywood. And how everything is, it's not just that it's rehashed, it's that everything seems like a denouncement of you and your way of life. We were just talking about how Superman, for instance, is basically a destruction of American exceptionalism. Hollywood still doesn't get it because they're still doing stupid things. Angel Studios knows this, and this is why it was created. Angel Studios has amazing titles that they are distributing. And they are not just making movies. They're creating not just experiences. They're also reminding everyone of American exceptionalism with every film. And they're proving that great entertainment can be both meaningful and fun for film goers of all ages. And you can help them in this mission. You can become a premium member of Angel Studios Guild. Join a million Americans that have done so. And when you do that, you get tickets to every theatrical release. Free streaming, you get all kinds of stuff. You also get to weigh in on what is being made and the timeline of how it's released. So you get to help green light films and direct what you want entertainment to look like. This is huge. And they have so many different titles, something to stand for with micro they have sound of hope. They have Sound of Freedom, Green and Gold. They've got all kinds of stuff. They also have King of Kings based on Charles Dickens' story, which is a great animated feature for families. You can visit angel.com slash Dana. Join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment. Join the Angel Guild and help fund the future of storytelling that reflects your values. And don't forget, premium members get free theater tickets, ad-free streaming, and much more. That's angel.com slash Dana.
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What about concerns from some of your Jewish colleagues in particular about him not outright condemning the phrase, globalize the Intifada, in a recent interview? Some of your Jewish colleagues have said that that could be very disturbing, potentially dangerous. Do you agree with that?
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You know, there's no candidate in this party that I agree 100 percent of the time with, to be honest with you. There's things that I don't agree with Mamdani that he said. But at the end of the day, I always believe, as a Democratic Party chair in Minnesota for the last 14 years and now the chair of the DNC, that you win through addition. You win by bringing people into your coalition. We have conservative Democrats. We have centrist Democrats. We have labor progressives like me. And we have this new brand of Democrat, which is the leftist. And we win by bringing people into that coalition. And at the end of the day, for me, that's the type of party we're going to lead. We are a big tent party. Yes, it leads to dissent and debate. And there's differences of opinions on a whole host of issues. But we should celebrate that as a party and recognize at the end of the day, we're better because of it.
SPEAKER 21 :
How many times is he going to say that? At the end of the day? At the end of the day? At the end of the day? How many times is he going to say, at the end of the day? This is the DNC chair, Ken Martin. This is the DNC chair. They cannot even condemn the guy who is endorsing Globalize the Infantata. And that's that man, Zoran Mamdani. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lesh with you, top of the second hour. They can't even disavow that. And his excuse is, well, you know, it's a big tent party. It's a big tent party. Man, that's a hell of a tent that you got there, Ken. Hell of a tent. Yeah, we got, you know, we got Democrats. We got these new Democrats called leftists. He actually said that. That was a sentence that came out of his mouth as he was trying to sound intelligent. I'm dying to death right now. Wow. So the big tent includes like people who are terrorists, then people who are like globalize the infantata, because we all know what that means. So I don't think that there is a limit to how far they can go. The left, if I'm being honest about this. This is pretty wild that that's what your party includes. Well, you know, it's just a big tent. We've got, you know, these these you don't have any conservative Democrats. Who are the conservative Democrats in the Democrat Party? OK, he doesn't count. He's the only one. He's he's more Republican than he is Democrat anymore. Good night. They don't have conservative Democrats in their party. They don't have any. They have none. So what does that mean? It's just a big tent party. You know, we got these Democrats and we got left this new Democrat called leftist. It's like a South Park skit, Kane.
SPEAKER 09 :
So their tent is so big they they invite people and shoot at law enforcement and who are violent and burn buildings.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
So that's how big their tent is.
SPEAKER 21 :
We're a big party, so we can have people who want to rob Israel off the map. Globalizing infantata.
SPEAKER 09 :
I suggest they rethink it or their tent's going to burn down.
SPEAKER 21 :
I bet he thinks that infantata means baby tots, like tater tots. Right? Are those the kind of tater tots for babies?
SPEAKER 09 :
Is it the intifada? Right? Isn't that how it is? It's not the infantata.
SPEAKER 21 :
Dude, these are people who say, wait, Bogota, right? These are the Bogota people. These are the Nordstrom pipeline people. Right? So, of course, you have, you know, the Bernie. Do you not have me up?
SPEAKER 23 :
Clothing for babies.
SPEAKER 21 :
My awesome soundbite? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. I was real upset over that one. I was leading you down the pathway to this.
SPEAKER 23 :
They are selling what's called onesies. These are little things. Clothing for babies.
SPEAKER 21 :
Crazy. The infant, they're tots, they're tighter tots, but for infants. That's what he probably thinks. Probably. That's what Ken Martin thinks. How in the world is, how do you, how are you asked, do you condemn the phrase globalize the infantada? And then you go, well, we're a big tent party. What in the Pawn Stars hell is that? Best I can do is this. What is that? Good night. And of course, he's real mad. He goes, well, I've never condoned the phrase. Okay, well, you've never said that it doesn't belong in your party. You've never said that. The infantada literally means suicide bombings. Globalizing it means bringing terror everywhere. You absolute butt mitten. That's what it means. It means bringing the terror everywhere. He was asked specifically as to whether or not someone who espouses that is not just welcome in the party, but is welcome to be a leader within the party. And he's trying to dodge it. He's trying to do a Mott Bailey and say, well, no, no one lacks this phrase. That's not what you're actually being asked. No one's asking you whether or not you support or condemn the phrase. They're asking you whether or not you believe that someone who endorses that ideology not only is welcome in your party, but is welcome to be a leader within your party. And he can't answer that because he knows he can't. What is he going to say? Oh, I don't think man Danny belongs here. I don't think anybody he doesn't. He's not said that at all. Even on social media, he's been really careful with how he said it. He has never at once said that it has no place in the party. He's just talking about rhetoric. This is more than rhetoric. This is like from the river to the sea kind of stuff. This is way more than rhetoric. This has to do with whether or not, again, you believe that that ideology obliterating an entire people is something that is welcome for a leadership position within the Democrat Party. And going by what Ken Martin is saying here, it is. It is. That's what it sounds like to me. But he's trying to he's trying to muddle muddy the waters here a little bit so that he doesn't have to actually answer that. I mean, that's exactly what that phrase means. And so this this is who this party is. So are you surprised when you see the stuff that you saw in California and Ventura, California with the pot farm? Does it surprise you? No. Doesn't really surprise you, does it? Doesn't surprise me either. It's not very surprising. This is who they are. This is deflection. Well, it's just a big party. But they need these people as agitators to get out the vote. So they have to spin these. They have to spin it like this. What else are they going to get people to come out and vote for for midterms? Think about this for a whole just for a second before we move on. What are they going to get people to come out and support their party for for during midterms? Putting illegal aliens on Medicaid? That's not going to go over very well. Most people believe in enforcement of current immigration law. They don't want people coming over the border illegally. So what are they going to lure people in on? And apparently Mexico, they're saying now, is turning against U.S. immigrants. They said there's anti-gentrification protests targeting Americans in particular have erupted in Mexico City and others. They're mad because they say locals are being priced out of trendy neighborhoods. Are really that many people moving there, Cain? I've always wanted to go and visit because for the food and the, you know, archaeology, the sites and all that. But otherwise, I don't know. I don't want the cartel business.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, there is a, you know, I think there's an aesthetic to being off grid, which a good portion of Mexico is. So I guess maybe that's what they're attracted to.
SPEAKER 21 :
But no, I just wouldn't literally want like tamales and tequila.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's like, yeah, that's also a plus.
SPEAKER 21 :
yeah i but i mean are there that many people but i've seen this happening everywhere but now they're really hyping it up as like punishment for the ice stuff here in the united states like yeah well mexico doesn't like you and naturally we're seeing the media run with these narratives yeah they said um like like listen to this is from the times not new york times but just the times it says quote
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Days earlier, a mix of Mexicans and foreigners were sipping on flat whites in this trendy Mexico City neighborhood last Friday when an anti-gentrification protest descended upon them. The Starbucks customers hit the floor as a group of the protesters turned violent, throwing chairs, smashing windows, looting snacks. People brandished signs reading expat equals gentrifier and Gentrification is colonization. I got a question.
SPEAKER 21 :
Why do they speak Spanish? These anti-colonization protesters in Mexico, why do they speak Spanish? So intriguing. I'm just, you know, why? Why do you guys speak Spanish and not something else? Maybe maybe it's because you are a colonizer. Maybe that's why I've never seen people that don't know the history of their own nation. Fascinating. You guys are colonizers, they said, while speaking Spanish and worshiping the same gods that the Spanish conquistadors worship when they brought them to Central America. I'm just saying that's kind of how it goes. It's just it's like it's like chicken saying down with chicken nuggets. I don't know. I doesn't make any sense. But there's this whole thing on it. They're talking about, oh, my gosh, they're so upset. They're so upset. The the restrictions and they the high quality of life and moving into these areas. It's maybe then ask about your government. Ask why your government makes things difficult. Ask why you have high crime rates because of cartels. Instead of getting mad at the nation that's tolerated this nonsense for as long as it has. I mean, you are literally you are you're a colonizer. You are the product of colonization and you've continued to colonize. You continue to colonize by speaking Spanish. You continue to colonize by practicing Christianity. You continue to colonize. If you want to have a discussion about colonization in Mexico, then let's talk about literally everything that you do. That is an offshoot of a culture that conquered you and brought all of this stuff to your land. I'm so tired of this stuff. That is the story of humanity all across the world, by the way. The conquered and the conquerors. That is it. No one feels sorry for you. Stop. If you want to change your government, then get the cartels out of the way and stop snorting cocaine. There's an idea. So stupid. Golly, we live in the dumbest era ever. Now, in addition to this, there's more. Because we've got I wanted to touch on this really quickly. I mentioned this before we go to headlines because this is fascinating. This Greece is Greece of all countries. They've decided that they've had enough with the unfettered illegal immigration coming from North Africa. And so apparently they're suspending all asylum applications. According to the great prime minister, they said that the path to Greece is closed. The messages to all traffickers and all their potential customers, the money they will spend will be entirely wasted. So they. I mean, this is pretty amazing. France needs to do the same. Spain needs to do the same. Spain's all socialists. They need to do the same. But they're doing this. Greece has had enough of it. So this is probably I'm sure that there's going to be arguments from other European nations over this. But they said that it's a temporary suspension using the same legal basis that the government applied during the previous crisis back in March 2020. They said it's necessary because they said and they also added that anyone who's entering the country illegally will be arrested and detained. And. Then they also had Greeks leaders speaking per the EU, and they said there's going to be a reaction from the EU on this. The EU wants chaos. The EU is specifically designed to destabilize the area. I do not believe that the EU has brought any kind of benefit to Europe at all whatsoever. It has brought so much destabilization under the guise of bringing all of this goodness and trade, et cetera, et cetera. Look at the destruction that it has wrought. for that was it a worthy trade because there are nations that don't think so clearly because they're bucking the immigration regulations and then you add the uk that left entirely we got a lot more on the way as we uh power towards headlines and the folks who make it happen relief factor is the partner they help people manage everyday aches and pains especially if you don't want to be hung up on prescription medication so this can be very beneficial for you to have the relief from relief factor and they make it super easy for instance the ingredients that they use turmeric omega-3 fatty acids resveratrol is all designed to target inflammation and support joint health and it'll help you get back to your daily activities without constant discomfort if you deal with inflammation if you deal you know like you know like for instance my husband he had um I had an old sports injury and he was able, you know, he's able to manage all of that with Relief Factor and be able to lift without, you know, worrying about anything. It's 100% drug-free, all developed to support your body's natural healing process. So don't stay stuck living with pain. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95, less than a dollar a day. And you can support a veteran-owned company and see the difference for yourself. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So a lot of people now are saying that Joni Ernst is the next GOP senator on retirement watch. She's a two-term senator from Iowa. She hasn't announced her plans for 2026. She's gone through the motions of launching another campaign. She's hired somebody to manage it, all this stuff, reports Politico. And she's announced her annual fall fundraiser. But there are a lot of people saying that she might retire then run for re-election. So that would give Republicans, they said, another seat to defend. But honestly, that district is going to be red. That's going to be a red district. So it's not like they're really going to have to defend it. They just have to get like a really it's where the primary is the general, basically. But they have never said they've never said definitively that she's going to run again. So I think if she hasn't already gone on, I mean, just compare it to John Cornyn, like John Cornyn's gone all in. If you haven't gone all in already and have said unequivocally that you're running, then you're not going to be running, especially for it like Senate, because they're trying to maintain control. that tiny, tiny, tiny little majority that they have there. Canada is seeing U.S. asylum claims surge as both nations are strengthening their border security, which they ought to. I mean, that just makes sense. But they're seeing... An increase in these asylum applications. And this is according to well, it's according to a couple of different things, including Bloomberg. But they said that it's increased in the past, you know, in the past year. But why would anybody be seeking asylum in the United States or in Canada from the US? I don't know. That's the big question. Detectives are baffled. After a man in Australia stole 53 right foot shoes from a store, from a business. He put them in big old duffel bags. They're trying to track him down. I don't know. First off, how hard was it? How hard is it to track down the guy? It was at 730 at night. How hard is it to track down a guy who takes the time to take only right foot shoes, shove them in a duffel bag and then wheel them, wheel them, literally wheel them through the mall? How difficult is that? They were placed on tables in the middle of a common area of a shopping center. And he's caught on CCTV. He didn't really make an effort to kind of hide himself. He just, you know, had a hat on and that was about it. But yeah, they 53 right foot boots. Is this going to be a sad story of like a Tiny Tim kind of character at home that only has like one right leg? I don't know. Coming up, our friend Carol Roth joins us. Stick with us. If you've noticed dry skin or changing texture that comes with time, you're not alone. And that's exactly what One Skin is here to help with. Healthy skin starts at the cellular level. Taking care of your skin isn't just about looks. One Skin's topical supplements make it easy for you to do something practical for your skincare. They're designed by a team of women scientists, and they use the proprietary OS01 peptide to target the root cause of aging, which is cellular sin sense, also known as zombie cells. These cells slow down collagen and hydration, making your skin weaker. OneSkin's OS01 peptide is clinically proven to reduce wrinkles, boost hydration, and help strengthen thinning skin. Plus, they have over 4,000 five-star reviews for their face, body, sun, and travel products. Visit OneSkin.co now and enter promo code DANASHOW to get started today with 15% off. That's OneSkin.co promo code DANASHOW for 15% off. After your purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Support your show and tell them we sent you.
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I think he's doing a terrible job. I think we should be, no, I think we should be three points lower interest rate. He's costing our country a lot of money. We should be number one. And we're not. And that's because of Jerome Powell. In terms of interest, we are number one in the world.
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He's really mad at him. And you can tell that POTUS is really mad at Jerome Powell because of this headline. Quote, Trump official criticizes the Fed chief for ostentatious office renovations. It's like everything is on deck now. Everything is getting attacked. Everything is germane to it. We're going after now your office decorations. So what does that mean for the rest of us? Because everybody else is just like, okay, so things are going to get better, right? It's like that Natalie Portman meme from Star Wars. Things are going to get better, right? I just don't think so. So let's have some real truth talk. Carol Roth, who's our beautiful best hair on television friend. And it's Happy Hair Fridays with Carol Roth, by the way, who has gorgeous hair. Did I say that once? Because I should say it again. You can find her at CarolRoth.com. She's got a great newsletter up there. And of course, her book, You Will Own Nothing, Your War with a New Financial World Order and How to Fight Back should be a horror film. It really should be. It's one of the scariest things you'll ever read. And she is, you know, she worked in investment banking. She's on TV. You guys know Carol. She joins us now via video. Good to see you, my friend. And when is this? They really they really don't like each other, which does not help the negotiations. I don't think that attacking the office decorations are going to help. So what is the way out here for this?
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, this is such a sordid tale because, you know, in many ways, they're both right and they're both wrong. Trump is absolutely right with Jerome Powell when he says he's been a terrible Fed chair. He's been a terrible Fed chair. The Fed itself is terrible. Yes. It's pretty easy to be a terrible Fed chair when you're the head of a terrible institution. But he supported the economy way too long after COVID. We were in a quote unquote emergency and they were doing emergency funding while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq were hitting all time highs like in June of 2020. He did too much. He cut too much. Then he said there was going to be no inflation. Then he was late to raising and then he was Late to lowering. So, I mean, he's just been wrong the whole time. And I think we're probably still somewhat high. So that part we completely agree with Trump on. That being said, one of the things that gets lost in all of this discourse is. is that because of our fiscal foundation, our fiscal situation, the fact that our debt to GDP is now north of 120%, that we are running war level deficits, even though we're not in a war and that the economy is expanding, we're in a very precarious financial position. And the people, the central banks that used to buy our debt because we are the world's reserve currency, they have not been buyers for like the last 10 or 11 years on net. So the people who are buying longer term debt, the debt that's a 10 year bond, let's say, are price sensitive buyers. And they have to figure out what kind of a return they want for having the government hold their money for 10 years. And given that situation and the fact that there is less demand for our debts and we're putting in more and more supply, both from a refinancing standpoint as well as new supply from our deficits, At the longer term horizon, what we call the long end of the yield curve, the Fed doesn't control that. The market controls that. And so supply and demand takes effect. And so the fiscal decisions are what's running that. We saw that back at the end of, I guess it was the end of 2021. three twenty twenty four. I don't know that the years all blend together. But when the Fed the last time they cut interest rates, you would have expected the yields on the 10 year to go down. But they didn't. They increased. And it's again because they don't control it. So, yes, Trump is absolutely right. Jerome Powell's not great. The Fed's not great. But the decisions that they're making in terms of Congress, the fiscal decisions, the amount of debt, and again, let's be clear, the bad fiscal position that was handed over from the Biden administration, because if that weren't the case, they wouldn't have to negotiate this in the same way. That is what is limiting his ability to refinance our debt at cheaper rates.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, there's so much that goes into it. I wish it was something as simple as, well, I would just wish Powell could just, you know, just cut the rates. Let's just do exactly what POTUS is asking for. I know that there's getting the cart ahead of the horse. There are unforeseen consequences. Well, unforeseen, maybe not to you, but to maybe some others, because we do have a serious financial illiteracy problem, as you've said many times. And it's true. But. I just I feel like there there's there's there's more that he could do without. He doesn't have to go whole hog. There's definitely more that he could do. Is it? And I hate even bringing this like aspect of analysis to it. Is it because Powell is just it's a political hindrance? He just he just dislikes Trump and he and he doesn't like the way Trump is handling it, you know, and Trump can play hardball pretty hard. And I feel like Powell isn't he's not he doesn't receive that well. I'm just pulling my hair out trying to figure out why it's such an impasse.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, I think that the Fed is always late. They're not ones that get ahead of the curve, no pun intended. They're always behind, and they're always behind schedule. I think that he's not necessarily being political now, but he might have been political when he did the cut right before the last election. So I think, you know... I would chalk it up now probably more to the fact that they're just bad at their jobs and they don't understand what it is they're doing and they just look at their own tools and not sort of the broader set of things that's going on. So I think that that's more in play. But the reality is, Dana, through the Treasury function and through some, you know, sort of interesting out-of-the-box thinking, we could do other things that would lower rates. We don't just need the Fed to do it. We could come up with all kinds of things. They could revalue the gold on their balance sheet. They could come up with a scheme. They're talking about making Franny and Fetty truly public companies again. And they could have people take very cheap blows against the equity of their house for Americans to invest in long term treasuries. There's a lot of different like out of the box weird things that they can do. I think what you are getting at in terms of the other side, the flip side of that is that there's a trade off. And the reality is that given the situation, you can't just do these things and expect that there isn't an equal and opposite reaction. Otherwise, you believe the MMT people that think that we can just come up with money from nowhere. And if we do these things, the release valve on the other side, the equal and the opposite reaction is likely to be inflationary. So that is the trade off. If we get to a way where we're going to lower the rates, whether it's through the Fed or these other machinations, the concern is that that actually ends up being accommodative in some way or another and that that ends up accelerating inflation again, which I've said, I think, to you many times and certainly many times elsewhere, I think is the likely scenario. But what it doesn't do is we can fix the problem temporarily. Let's say we got the rates down to 1%, zero, whatever, pick a small number. And let's say we somehow could refinance all the debt, even though it's not all coming due, but as much as we possibly could, and we put ourselves in a better position. unless we fix that overspending problem, unless we shrink and eliminate that deficit and get things back where we're growing this country and we're growing the GDP, but not doing it through deficit spending, then we're going to just be back in the same situation in a couple of years. So we have a path to buy us time, but those things that they can do to buy us time and make sure it doesn't all collapse go to a heck in a handbasket right now, it doesn't solve the problem. It just purely buys us time.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right. We're talking with our friend Carol Roth and buying time that brings us to that one big, beautiful bill that finally passed and went went to POTUS's desk. You're so excited about it. You can just read the love on Carol's face for this bill, because that's like what we're going to have to deal with this again during an election cycle. I mean, there's so much in here that's, you know, all of the relief, which is temporary. And I felt like not enough lawmakers were honest about it. Where does that put taxpayers? Where does that put us in this big mess?
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, as I've said many times, I always thought the big, beautiful bill needed some ozempic or a fat shot, as Trump liked to call it, right? It's a little too big, maybe not as beautiful as we had hoped. There were things that were very important in there. And some of the tax policy, both on the personal side and the business side, was critically important. Because at the end of this year, we were facing one of the biggest tax hikes, if not the biggest tax hike of all time. And given our precarious financial position, one thing we cannot do is create a situation that is very restrictive in terms of the economy. So that's not great. The thought that the tax cuts, though, and the extension in many cases, there's some new things in there, but most of it is an extension is going to juice all this new economic activity is a little bit concerning to me. Because when you think about the first time the Tax Cuts and Job Acts, we went from restrictive tax policy to this better tax policy and that unleashed growth. But we're now in that situation. So the extension of it doesn't create that new push. Maybe a little bit for anybody who is holding back, thinking that there would be an expiration and certainly for some of the small new additions that came in. But as a whole, does it really provide rocket fuel for the economy? No. What it prevents us from sliding backwards, that would have happened. It prevents us from a worse situation that we would have gone back to. But does it move it completely? Completely forward in this crazy way your long term. I don't see that either. So I think we're in somewhat of the same situation We certainly need more deregulation to help provide that rocket fuel and that's something they said they're gonna get to so we'll just Take them at their word right now and hope that that comes to pass But I didn't see And I didn't hear communicated what the plan on the spending side was. And I don't think that it went far enough. And if they weren't able to make it go far enough now, which I understand there are political limits, I would have liked to hear a strategy that says, well, we can't do this now because, hey, if we just cut off spending, we would also take the economy because it's been propped up by government spending as well as the consumer. But here's our plan to shift it over the next couple of years. And so maybe that's the plan. We just have not given them opportunities. We have not heard what the plan is to take all the doge and all of these issues and make that into a long term plan so that we can bring those deficits down to frankly, they should be Zero. Right. We should we should have a balanced budget or a surplus over time. And I know that's going to take some time, but it would be great by the end of the term to at least have half of it addressed and be moving in that direction. And so I just don't feel like we got there. I'm not saying that we won't. I'm not saying there wasn't a plan. I just don't know at this point what it is.
SPEAKER 21 :
And I feel like they tried to kind of do that with floating the idea of pocket rescissions, but I don't think enough people know that process. And then, like you were saying, there wasn't any specificity as to what would be allowed to languish and go past that deadline and then the funding run out. There's not really strong messaging on that.
SPEAKER 22 :
No, and it's confusing. And the whole process is frankly confusing. And I think that's part of the frustration. I think that people don't want one big, beautiful bill. They want small, beautiful bills. They want little things where they understand this is the issue and we're not going to give on this and take on this. We're just going to say, hey, here's this and let's agree and then we'll move forward. That's what small government people want. And frankly, most of Americans want so that they can understand that there's full transparency and it doesn't become politicized. And it's not what we got. I think there is an opportunity. They have some great communicators, including Trump, on their team that can go out and tell us what the next phase of the process is, which we're all kind of hanging on by a thread. Unfortunately, the next phase of the process that was brought to our door and, you know, Brought brought in and thrown on the doorstep as of yesterday is a new tariff war, which is not exactly what everybody expected.
SPEAKER 21 :
And that's the other thing. The fuel. Right. Before I let you go, I got to ask about that, because now we've got 35 percent. Was it 35 percent on Canada? And then he was talking about maybe a 50 percent on Brazil because of the Bolsonaro. It sounded like it was punishment for the trial Bolsonaro trial. I don't know if that's maybe the best thing on which we are going to bank tariffs, but that's what's being floated. Last quick thing on that, your thoughts, because I don't think that that doesn't contribute in a helpful way to this.
SPEAKER 22 :
If we want to grow our way out of the mess that we're in, and we all know we're in a mess, we need certainty. We need certainty for consumers. We need certainty for businesses. We cannot operate it with things shifting on a day-to-day basis based on somebody is getting angry. So let's come up with a plan. As we've just cut taxes, let's not tax businesses and consumers through tariffs on an ongoing basis.
SPEAKER 21 :
Let's not take that away.
SPEAKER 22 :
And let's just move on and take your win and be happy and get back to business.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right. So first and foremost, this is a really long story. This guy was very busy. A Florida man saw the back door of somebody's house left open. So he went inside and the intruders in custody because he got shot. Right. His guns save lives. He goes inside and the person who lives there heard strange noises and the guy charged at them according to WOFL TV and the guy who lives there called out and said, is somebody here? And that's when the intruder charged towards him. He emerged from a hallway and charged at him. The man fired a single shot into his leg. Deputies responded. The man who fired the shot was not injured. And so the guy was, he's being held on no bond. He's got all kinds of charges against him, but Yeah, that's that's wow. Guns save lives. They do. Florida man known as Sugar Daddy opens fire in a motel because he was mad that his car got towed, according to the police. And he said, quote, all y'all going to learn today, end quote. Well, he apparently was the only one who learned. Ronald James Davis. This means 51 years old. First off, what? What? Crime makes you ugly and old. Good. Just saying. He's accused of first degree murder and attempted murder. It was a 430 in the morning plantation in Florida, literally like a South Florida city west of Fort Lauderdale. He shot and killed a dude. Guy was laying face down and pulled blood. Woman's inside the room. They both were shot. The woman identified Davis as the as the killer. He got he showed up to the hotel because he was mad. He got a traffic ticket and his car was towed and he approached a victim, threatened to beat her up if she didn't pay. He was, I guess, trying to collect money, shake down people for money so he could get his car back. And he was pounding on the hotel room door and everything went to Hades. That's what happened. So maybe just I don't know. Don't get your car towed. And then that's not a good way to hustle for money to try to cover your bills. Third hour on the way. And our friends over at Kel-Tec, Kel-Tec makes some very good stuff. And you guys are very familiar with Kel-Tec. The PR-57, as you guys know, it's a very interesting pistol. This is the rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7. It's 40% lighter than any other 5.7 that's on the market. And it's inspired by real-world data and defensive needs. So super affordable, $399 MSRP. But you also have a unique top-loading design. It replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips for a slimmer carry profile, 20 plus 1 capacity, low recoil for ease of use. It's really great everyday carry. Quickest and easiest field strip available as well. It's the new Kel-Tec PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered N57. Lighter than any other on the market, and you can find it at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, Jillian, hi. Excuse me, but homegrown Americans kill at a much higher rate. I'd like to put them in jail, too. Okay, everyone, just stop talking for just a second. Jillian, please stop talking. You all are all talking at the same time. It's impossible to hear or understand. When I say stop talking, please stop talking. Thank you.
SPEAKER 21 :
OK, you don't have to be a bitch about it. You can just be like, well, let me jump in here. That's just because you're not a great host and you don't know how to handle your guests. And that doesn't mean that you shift into like bad mommy mode and then try to like condescend to them and dress them down. Most of whom are probably people with more achievements and accolades than you'll ever hope to achieve in your shorter career. But that's not a move to do. You don't do people like that on your program. I don't even know if that's her program. I don't even know who this chick is. But all I know is that she cannot run a program or manage guests. Welcome back to my program, Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour. We've got a lot happening. And my friend Danny Boy O'Connor is going to join us later on because he's got a book out. He's obsessed with the Outsiders movie. And the book, which was a great book. I mean, it created a whole genre in publishing. And he's going to join us to chat and hang out for a little bit, so you don't want to miss. So that was, was it MSNBC or CNN?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's CNN.
SPEAKER 21 :
I can't even tell the difference. I don't even know who these people are. Like, if the life of the planet depended on me correctly identifying these people, I'd be like, we're all dead. It's not happening. I don't know who any of these people are. Nobody's got time for that on a Friday in July. Come on. Nuttiness. Absolute nuttiness. Yeah, it basically is like the Thunderdome there. It just seems rude, though. Like, oh, stop it. When I say stop, all you have to do is say, wait, wait, wait. Let's go one at a time. But you don't have to sit here and try to flex and be like, when I say stop talking, I mean stop talking. I would have gotten up. If I would have been at that table, I would have ripped off my mic, thrown it down and left. There's no way I was, there was no way I'd be letting some woman talk to me like that. No way. So would you, what would you have done?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't know. I don't tend to talk over people as much. So I don't think I'd be in that situation.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's about hating old people or it's about you're going to do something like that. You didn't know anything. I was just merely, I, you're my friend. I was being observational. I was observing past things is all. That's the only thing I'm just saying. So, yeah, they're having a time. They're having a time. Sometimes I wonder if they regret trying to diversify the ideology represented on that network more because that's ultimately what you end up getting. It's pretty crazy. A couple of other things to touch on. We had – let me pull this up. We're talking about some of the GOP stuff. I really don't want to get into – everybody heard the Texas story, right? Oh, boy. Okay. So in Texas, you got John Cornyn, who's a senator. Not a lot of people like John Cornyn because he's been there for a long time. And typically when you tend to be in a place for a long time, when you tend to be there for as long as he's been there, you kind of don't. his record is kind of haunting him a little bit, a little bit, a lot of it. A lot of people think he's a rhino. Some people think he's ineffective. Some people think he's an effective rhino. I mean, he's got baggage, right? So it doesn't help. But he's been running, I mean, I don't even know how long. He's been in office for forever. He's been running unopposed, essentially, in the Senate for some time. Well, until now. So you have the Attorney General of the state of Texas, Ken Paxton, who has filed to run in the primary to challenge Cornyn. And he's been so far, he's put up a good challenge. The White House hasn't waited in yet in it. And Cornyn was meeting with POTUS apparently earlier this week, according to Punchbowl News. Paxton's already tight with POTUS. Because remember, Ken Paxton was up there in New York when Trump was going through that New York witch hunt, which was a really stupid trial, by the way. That was the dumbest case ever. I can't even believe it was prosecuted. But here we are. It's New York. And he was out there. Remember, he was in the background like he was a part of like the hype squad that went out there. And all of this, you know, yes, I'm sure he believed in the rule of law and that it was being subverted in that case. But I also think that he was looking out for, well, I'm going to be running against John Cornyn at some point. So I want to make sure that I get that coveted Trump endorsement. So he's challenged John Cornyn. And it's already been I mean, it's barely started and it's already so nasty. Well, then yesterday it got nastier.
SPEAKER 20 :
Don't don't don't in days of our Texas Republican politics.
SPEAKER 21 :
This could I mean, you're talking about a senator who could be working with all of you. So his wife, Ken Paxton's wife, Angela Paxton, by the way, did they ever respond to you? I mean, it's been a day. They're not going to I'm not going to grill him. I mean, I like what Paxton's done, but I'm not an idiot. You know, I like what he's done, but I know that there's a lot of people talking about a lot of issues with him. Anyway, his wife came out and said that basically, according to all the documents that have been reviewed and publicly reported on that, he committed adultery. I don't know if he committed adultery again past the 2018 affair that he had. And he came out and talked about it in the press, and I guess they got over it, and their marriage continued. But she filed for divorce yesterday, and that was cited in the documents that were made public. She's accusing him of infidelity. So I don't know if it's based on that 2018 affair or if it's something new. That's one thing that wasn't made clear, but... It's already you can imagine how that's fitting into a nasty Republican primary. So here's the question. And I don't mean I'm not trying to diminish anything. I just want to get right to the point of the issue. Does it matter? Nobody wants to talk about this on the Republican side of things. Doesn't matter. Does marital infidelity matter in elections? Meaning, do you think it's an effective weapon? Is it effective when it's weaponized against someone?
SPEAKER 09 :
The answer to that question is yes. It is effective when weaponized. It is effective when weaponized, but I don't think it matters very much. Now, there is an argument to be made that, hey, if he's going to do this to... his wife, he might do this to the state of Texas or the country or whatever. I don't buy into that necessarily so much. So I don't look at this as something that may automatically kills his chances to become senator, but I think it is an effective weaponization.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't know if it is an effective weaponization.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've seen it happen.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't know if it's mattered since Bill Clinton. Well, I take that back. No, I don't take it back. It hasn't mattered since Bill Clinton. And you can bring up John Edwards, but John Edwards, if you remember, didn't get in trouble because he had an affair. John Edwards got in trouble because of how badly he tried to cover it up. When John Edwards screwed around on his wife with that Ryle Hunter, he paid his campaign surrogate to pretend that he was the one having the affair. And then when she had the love child, He basically had he paid this guy off just to claim that baby as his own. And I mean, that guy was married and had to deal with that in his own marriage. And they he was using campaign contributions to cover it. And then there was that rich heiress, Bonnie, Bunny Mellon, whose money he was taking to pay for all of it. So he got in trouble for campaign for like all kinds of fraudulent spending and all of this. That's why he got in trouble. And the cover up is usually always worse than a crime for the most part in instances like this. And so they weren't mad at him because he had an affair. They got mad at him because he was using Bunny Mellon's money to pay off people in his campaign to pretend that they were the ones having the affair and that his love child was actually theirs. If you remember, they got caught on that CCTV footage at a hotel that somebody sold to the National Enquirer. National Enquirer actually got to report some journalism and nobody else would touch the story and they reported on it. And that's how it went gangbusters. And then he hit it and they were trying to say, well, National Enquirer reported on it. So it's trash. Yeah, that's guilt by association. That doesn't really work. So it came out and then he went to court and and then his wife was sick. She had cancer. His wife had cancer terminal. Oh, my gosh. It was just a diet that all of that all of that contributed. But that being said, if it had just been an affair, I think he would still have been Democrats golden boy. He was they were he was going to be the one that they had before Barack Obama. Barack Obama was not the next one after Clinton. It was John Edwards. They wanted John Edwards. He was the VP pick for Kerry. They wanted him. He was the golden boy. And they thought that they could you know, they thought they really had it made. But turned out, you know, they didn't. So I don't know, because it didn't really a lot of people talked about it with Trump the first term. But I think the thing that made it difficult was. in talking because i agree with you and i've said before i'm like well if you can't you know i i you know is it's a judge of it's a judge of character and that if they can't stay true to their wives can they stay true to the voter however again i think that's not the way to look at it you got to look at the currency of this Everybody has a currency. Some people want public adoration. Some people want power. And if that currency is being served, they will be faithful to that currency. They will be faithful to whatever gets that currency more so maybe than they would ever be within the bonds of marriage. And that's one thing that you can always count on and predict with certain politicians. So I think that's in some cases makes it different with POTUS. For his first term, it seemed like everything was already resolved. And I think that's what made it harder to stick. Like he was on good terms with his first wife, on good terms with his second wife. They all seemed to be reconciled to how everything went down and they were fine and everybody was getting along. None of his kids were Hunter Biden. Nobody was on drugs and running out and partying. You didn't see any bleary-eyed photos of any Trump's kids pouring out of the club at two in the morning, hopping into a car all drunk as skunks. You didn't see any of that. And I think that... kind of i think that tempered any criticism this is is what's different though this is what's different so i um with i i just think that uh i don't know i just think it's just weird it's just the whole thing i i with paxton there's a lot of rumors that And there are a lot of rumors. There's a lot of different stuff that I've heard over the years. I don't know. I've never put stock in any of it. I don't pay attention to any of it. I just know that there's a lot of whispering and all of that. Whether or not that hurts him, I think, depends upon the negatives that John Cornyn has. And also, how badly do they want to get rid of John Cornyn? And how does this play out? I think some of this is going to be predicated upon the nastiness of their dissolvement of their marriage. So if it gets nasty between them, is that, that could potentially overshadow his Senate bid. And then that, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I agree with that 100%.
SPEAKER 21 :
So I don't know. That's, that's just kind of like the big thing with it. I, I, I'm not going to like report on it breathlessly. Like it's TMZ and, However, I also think that for people who bring up questions as about fidelity and they say that that may be a mark against a candidate for them. I don't think that you can get mad at those people for saying that either. I mean, you're going to be like you're going to pretend to be family first or you're going to be family first. You're going to pretend to be principals first or not. I think it's just – I think it exposes people as grifters when they get mad at other individuals that they claim are on their side for espousing observations that everybody held 10 years ago that everyone kind of agreed on. And they think, yeah, that's a market against somebody's character. Believe me, I get being Machiavelli probably better than most of these people do. However, what I don't like are people getting attacked because they say, well, yes, you shouldn't be cheating on your wife or yes, you should keep it within the bonds of marriage, whatever. And I see that happening all over social media. If that's not something that you use as a standard of value, then that's fine for you. But don't look down or attack somebody else that's done probably more than you have for the conservative cause because they disagree.
SPEAKER 09 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, so... There was, let's see, two people facing... Oh, no, I'm not doing that one. We're not doing any of those. I don't like those. There's a billboard and billboards in Cleveland that are drawing a lot of criticism because they say, I buy... It says, I buy crack houses and your house is trash. People are... Literally, that's what it says. Is your house trash? And then it's like a guy in glasses. And so it's drawing some criticism. One of the billboards reads, yes, I buy crack houses. People are upset over it. There's a lot of backlash from community members and city officials. One particular sign has been taken down, but all the others have remained in place. Local real estate investors say the signs go too far. Somebody goes, what was your point? I didn't understand. Well, the point was that they want to buy your crack house. That's the point. The guy wants to purchase your house of crack. Or if your house is trash, he would like to buy your trash house. I mean, I think that's kind of the point, right? It seems pretty direct. Isn't that the whole point of why they're upset?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a crack house and a trashy house.
SPEAKER 21 :
A trashy crack house. Rarely are the crack houses bougie. You know, I'm just saying. Like, I don't even understand. This is the sign. And then these investors are like, what is the point? I don't understand. Well, he wants to buy your trashy house in cash. That's what I get out of it. Yeah. Do you know that your suitcase is 58 times dirtier than a public toilet seat? What? I believe it. Who else wipes their suitcase down every time before and after you go through security? And then when you get home? Just me? Yeah, it's 58 times dirtier, according to a new study. And the wheels, obviously, are the dirtiest. So, ew. Like, they found, like, staff, a bunch of stuff I can't say, and grody stuff on these things. Ugh. Don't lick your wheels. Don't lick your suitcase wheels.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nobody does that. But I think about it now.
SPEAKER 21 :
I bet some people do.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've wheeled my suitcase into the bathroom before. So imagine rolling around on the bathroom floor that whole time.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don't take my suitcase back into my room when I get back from traveling until I wipe the wheels down.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really?
SPEAKER 21 :
I always have the little wipes on me. Always. But I don't take it into my house. I can't say that for everybody else in my family. But I don't take it. I am that person.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm going to start doing that now.
SPEAKER 21 :
I know. No, this makes me so sick. This is a travel and leisure story. So let's see. They're going to bed. They're going to ban lead ammunition for hunting and shooting in England, Scotland and Wales. Yeah, they are. It's restrictions on shots and toxic metals. What do you think the lead comes from? It comes from space. Where does the lead come from? It comes from the planet that you're on. If it's in the planet, how is it all of a sudden toxic? You know what? Lead's toxic if you get shot with it. So just don't do that. We've got a lot more on the way. Do you like the Outsiders movie? I mean, there's some really cool stuff that's happening. Our friend Danny Boy O'Connor, he's doing some really big things in Tulsa. He joins us about his new book next. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. And I got to tell you, so you guys know Simple Minds, one of my favorite groups ever. And New Gold Dream is one of my absolute favorite songs of all time. And I played this like bumper music at some point. And I got a message on Instagram and I my jaw hit the floor. Because it's Danny Boy O'Connor who messaged me on Instagram. And it was like one of those things where, I mean, this guy's like a legend. And he was a part of like a legendary musical moment or era in the United States. I'm like, oh my gosh. And then not only does he also love that song. But then you realize that he loves a particular author that made a major impact on you when you were growing up and a story that like resonated through the generations. And I'm talking about S.E. Hinton and the Outsiders, which that literally created an entire genre in publishing. There was no YA anything before Hinton came out with her with her books. She I mean, boom, boom. She was a teenager when she wrote this book and she had a bestseller. She was like famous out of the gate. Very few authors get to enjoy that, not just the notoriety, but knowing that there is such widespread appreciation for their work as she did. Well, then I was reading more about it and I saw that Danny Boy O'Connor really was so invested in the story. Like most people get memorabilia, you know, they'll get like a signed copy of the book. maybe if they're lucky, they might get a copy of the actual screenplay. He got the house. He literally went, he was in Tulsa, bought the outsider's house, the actual craftsman home where they filmed it. So I think I can safely say without any debate, that nobody is a bigger fan of the Outsiders than Danny Boy O'Connor. And I doubt that there's a bigger film fan anywhere than Danny Boy O'Connor, who joins us now via video. My good friend, Danny, God love you.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's so good to see you. So good to see you and get to talk to you. It's been a long time coming, and I definitely remember reaching out to you. You have a fantastic choice in bumper music. I said I think the only one who comes close was the late, great Art Bell, who had a very eclectic taste in music. Some of it I didn't think I would like, but you hear it long enough and you'd learn to love it. But you and me, I feel like if somebody found my iPod, they would probably return it to you because we like a lot of the same stuff. And for a dude who grew up doing hip hop all his life, people have survived that I'm like into New Wave or, you know, The Cult or Sisters of Mercy or all of the stuff that I like. That's really what I listen to full time and have done since day one. But yeah, that's so good to meet you. And I love your show. And I Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, thank you. I'm a big fan of yours as well. And the fact that I just had my musical taste affirmed, I'm like going to forever keep that. It's going to be my epitaph. I want to talk to you about your efforts in Tulsa because I also love The Outsiders. And I think I read this thing about it where it was talking about how libraries and teachers really helped maintain the popularity of that book through multiple generations. And that's how I first read it in school. And it was... a non-condescending way of talking about the differences between people and a search for uh inclusion and it was and i think it was so non-condescending because it was written by a teenager and i think this book has impacted everybody in some way but you most significantly because when you were in tulsa i read that you had somebody that was taking you around to look at where they were filming the outsiders and you saw this house and you ended up buying this house
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so some of that is correct. I went on tour and we played Tulsa in 2009. We played the famous Canes Ballroom. We had never played as House of Pain, my original group, but we played it as another group called La Coconostra, which was an amalgamation of House of Pain and a couple other groups. And it was that tour that I ended up stumbling upon Tulsa. And then I realized, oh, my God, this is where they filmed The Outsider. So I went looking for locations. Never in a million years did I think I'd buy the house. But for the next five years, God had a funny plan. And I kept making my way to Tulsa somehow. And at year five, after the fifth year of coming here, I realized that if somebody doesn't step up and do something, this house might get torn down.
SPEAKER 21 :
And it was going to. Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
went and found the owner. It was really hard to find her. She was living in Florida. She inherited the house and she had tenants that were eight months behind in rent. And so we told her we would be interested in hearing her offer. And when I first found it in 2009, they were asking $42,000 for the house. I ended up, I'll cut to the chase, I ended up paying $15,000 for the house. Wow. Jaw dropped. Couldn't believe I was the new owner of the outsider's house. But when I got here to Tulsa and... saw what I actually bought, I realized it was a fair deal. But that's where my life story changes because When you're six foot six and an alpha male, for me, it was hard to ask for help. But when I got here, I had to really admit that I didn't know what I was doing. And I'm not the guy who's like, I'm not the contractor guy or not to build you things. I'm a creative director, but I'm not like in that area. And I asked for help. And I tell you what, Dana, the people of Tulsa put me on high, surrounded me. They cut the lawn. They fixed the roof. They painted the whatever. They were so amazing.
SPEAKER 20 :
Just invested in it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Yeah. And and I decided, you know what, I'm never going home and home was Los Angeles, California for the last 48 years. And after six months of working on this project, I said, I'm moving to Tulsa and I've been here for eight years. I love everything about it. The people here are great. And yeah. There's so much opportunity here. Not only what, you know, there's rich music and film history here, but there's a budding film industry growing on here right now. And Leon Russell's also from here. So there's a church studios right down the street from our museum that has also been restored into an incredible museum. And it's a handful of things that are going on right now. When I first got here in 2009, you couldn't say all of the things that I can name off that are that are popping right now in Tulsa. But right now, Tulsa is on fire in the best possible way. And it's I couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
SPEAKER 21 :
And you're helping to put it on the map. I want to tell everybody about Danny's new book, The Oral History of the Outsider, Staying Gold, how S.E. Hinton's novel and Francis Ford Coppola's movie became cult classics and launched today's Hollywood icons to superstardom because there were I mean, it was an amazing I know it was done like on a shoestring budget. Because I know when Coppola was making this movie, he was, you know, he was coming out. He already had The Godfather success. This was coming out in 83. But he was able to put together this amazing, like a dream cast of who you would want to play in this.
SPEAKER 18 :
The Brat Pack.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Emilio Estevez, Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon, C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macchio, Diane Lane, Leif Garrett. I mean, everybody guys went on, you know, and took the 80s over by storm. So, yeah, it's an incredible cast, but nothing beats the author and incredible director to Coppola. I'm a huge.
SPEAKER 21 :
He's one of my favorites.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, goodness. But. I told Susie Hinton when I first met her, I said, there's there's nobody has had me more in fear to meet the person. And I've met everybody growing up in Hollywood that you could meet. I said, Susie, I almost canceled on our date because I was I just didn't think I'd had it in me to do it. And she said, well, but we hit it off straight away. She's a fantastic woman. She wrote the book when she was 15 and a half.
SPEAKER 21 :
And she donated to this museum, too, not to interrupt you, but she didn't.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. she's the number one supporter financially and just of giving us the blessing but her story is really what hit home for me because you know she wrote that book at 15 and a half she failed english d plus and creative writing that year the book has never been out of print in over 42 years um it sells every year there's a new crop of of outsiders fans um the reason it becomes a movie is because the librarian noticed a tipping point with her students She said, Danny, the girls would read anything I give them, but the boys, nuh-uh. And she said, I gave them this book, and they devoured it. So she said, I'm going to have 100 of them write to Francis Ford Coppola, of all people, and ask him to look at this book and perhaps turn it into a movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love that story.
SPEAKER 18 :
I said, why would you do that? I said, he was the godfather one and two in Apocalypse Now at that time. She goes, yeah, but he did such a masterful job staying true to the black stallion that I thought he'd be a shoo-in. And so there's so many... Courses of miracles that had to happen for this book to turn into a movie, the movie to turn into a museum, and now the museum to turn into a Broadway musical, which just took four Tony Awards and is, you know, sweeping the nation. It's going to kick off here in October at the Tulsa PAC. I love that. That's amazing. It just keeps growing and growing and growing.
SPEAKER 21 :
I love this story with Coppola. He said that when he got, I read an interview where he said that he got this big thick packet and all these kids had their signatures. And he said, I looked at every signature and you could tell they were all individual, like these little signatures. And he was like, I had to read it after that. I had to.
SPEAKER 18 :
He got on a flight. They sent it to the wrong address in New York. And then his assistant brought it back to LA and he was getting on another flight to go to New York. And he said, there was nothing to read on the plane. So I dug in that packet and I started finding all these letters. By the time I got off that flight, I knew we had to make this movie. So.
SPEAKER 21 :
And he did and he fought to make it happen in Tulsa. And I know I don't want to give all the mysteries away of the museum, but I know that there was a mystery involving the director's chair because you have Coppola's director's chair. It's at I know you have tons of stuff at the house, but you have that chair. It went missing for a while.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, it was stolen on the set of Rumblefish, which is also an S.E. Hinton book. And Coppola also did that movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Came out the same year.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, two weeks later, after wrapping The Outsiders, he went right into Rumblefish, also filmed in Tulsa. And I guess... Somebody experiencing homelessness at that time decided they needed a chair. And Coppola, everybody broke character to go save his chair. And he said, guys, we're here to make a movie. If he wants the chair, let him have it. So a wonderful man named Gary Johnson, a retired Tulsa PD guy, found the chair two weeks later behind a liquor store. A guy was living there and he was playing games on the train tracks. They thought he was trying to kill himself. So he was there to evict him. He said, you grab your chair. Wait. where'd you get that chair? And he's like, that's not my chair. You want that chair? So he said, Danny, I was had that in my man cave for 34 years until you got to town. He said, that was going to Valhalla with me. But since you, you, you, you're doing this, this incredible work, we want to donate it to you. And so that began my journey. And then, and I started to build an incredible collection and, uh, there's nothing that comes close to our collection of not only her books, movie memorabilia from wardrobe to cars in the movie. And now I collect all of her work and the dream is to do an S.E. Hinton Museum.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's amazing. And I think that's definitely deserving. I don't know anybody that has so many hits at that young, like right out of the gate was writing bestsellers. You did. We're talking to our awesome friend, Danny Boy O'Connor and the Oral History of the Outsiders, his new book, The Early Orders You Can Do Right Now, Barnes & Noble, 25% off today's last day. You were so faithful to the restoration of this house. I was reading about how detailed you were getting. Like you were even you were like looking at the like for the lack of a better word, like screen grabs, trying to get the tint of the wallpaper correctly, like marks on appliances. Like you were so faithful to this. What inspired that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Probably my OCD. You know what? I knew that I was such a fan and I knew that there were a lot of fans like me and I knew that if it didn't pass a test, you know, it was not going to. The last thing I wanted kids to come out and go, that's not how it looked. So I was obsessed with it. It took three and a half years. I remember the first interview I did, they said, how long do you think it'll be? to this is up and running i said give me three three and a half months you know three and a half years later and you know 250 000 worth of of stuff not to count the gifts in kind we cut the ribbon but if you were to give me another three years that's how much of a perfectionist because i wanted this thing to be as equally like it has to represent essie hinton it's not about you know as much as it's about her legacy and how this book is has reached children and you said it you nailed it it's about the right side of the tracks and the wrong side of the tracks proverbially and finding what she says is we saw the same sunset although our worlds were two you know completely different places we saw the same sunset for me that's finding a mutual thing that we both can like whether you're left right black white doesn't matter we both look up see a beautiful creation the sunset that god made even by default if we both like it it brings us one step closer and so that's what we do at that place and uh i will end by telling you that uh we did have close to six thousand school students tour the museum the last semester that just passed before they went into summer. And that was an unexpected consequence of building this museum. I built this museum for me and your husband to look at switchblades and Matt Dillon's leather jackets and stuff like that. But it's really a museum driven by the kids. And the educational component that we're trying to build out is why we're doing a gala coming up in October on the 12th on the heels of this musical that's going to come to town.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's amazing. I want to share with everybody before I let you go talking with Danny Boy O'Connor, this quote that I read from you, which I thought was so incredibly profound. And it kind of hit me the same way as like the message of the outsiders and the way that you approached restoring this house into this museum. You said, I think as a nation or as a people in the past, we've looked at pop culture as being disposable. And now the things that were once disposable to us become more important than, say, like a Monet. And you said, I've been to Amsterdam. I've seen Rembrandt. It's a brilliant painting, but I don't relate to that in any way. There's no part of my DNA in that. And The Outsiders is like a rite of passage. I love this because I think – You're good.
SPEAKER 18 :
You dug that one out. That's good. That is – such a great deal i mean i mean fonzie raised me and and and jachi and joni and and and you know shauna now was the the guys i wanted to look like because they looked like the guys in brooklyn where i grew up originally before i came to california everybody i knew was like a shauna type character so when i saw the outsiders i thought well listen i don't have much but if i had a band of brothers that would surround me and me surround them and just look out for each other that this life would be doable and so it sure has been but uh I don't believe that I would have had the success that I've had here in Tulsa if this house wasn't Los Angeles or New York. It's just people here are cut from a different cloth and I'm never leaving.
SPEAKER 21 :
Amen to that. Danny Boy O'Connor, the book, you got to get it now, The Oral History of the Outsider, Stain Gold. And you can do that pre-order right now. uh barnes and noble and it comes out this fall and of course the musical we'll make sure we remind everybody about the gala uh i'm gonna get down there and visit it because i love the book i've been to tulsa we got affiliates in tulsa i gotta get down there and i gotta go visit i gotta go look at the switchblades and i gotta go look at this director's chair and the jacket and the car and everything else danny boy o'connor god bless you my friend and icon in so many different ways and you're just keeping on going appreciate you thank you my friend stay gold that's right
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SPEAKER 21 :
I forgot to tell people when I had Danny with us is that you can support those ongoing restoration efforts over at the Outsiders House Museum. You can get a brick. Oh, yeah. It's part of the story. It's actually cool. It's a personalized brick and it helps to go towards the long term survival of the museum. And it is like really when you when you read how detailed they got into recreating that house room by room. It's wild. Like the floor. Exactly. The kitchen, exactly everything like he went through frame by frame from the film. It is wild. And I think Rob Lowe went to it and visited it and he was like blown away. He had it on his Instagram account. He was like blown away at just the efforts that in how the realism of it. It was like when they were back there. All right. So and that's at Brick's. us is there a brick yeah bricks are us dot com slash donors at the outsiders i'll have that all up on a social so you can access it today's stupidity king all right looks like democrat maryland attorney general anthony brown one this is cut 21
SPEAKER 07 :
apparently they don't want to cooperate with ice with federal law enforcement listen to this if you want federal transportation dollars you've got to cooperate with ice and maryland refuses to cooperate with ice okay well there you go well um can i also not cooperate with laws i don't want to follow
SPEAKER 09 :
He's in the F.A. portion.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, the F.O. is going to come around.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's coming. Yeah, it's coming. It's going to come around. Folks, that does it for us this week. Find us over at Facebook and YouTube. Like and subscribe. Subscribe, chapter and verse as well. Have a great rest of your Friday. Have a great weekend. I'll be back with you on Monday.
