Join Rick Hughes on The Flatline as he delves into the intricate concept of the FLOT line, a spiritual metaphor aimed at solving life's inevitable problems. Discover the ten unique problem-solving devices that act as a main line of resistance in your soul, designed to transform adversity into opportunity while maintaining a relaxed mental attitude. Understand the pivotal role of thought in Christianity and how it shapes one's spiritual journey and overall life success.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. I did say FLOT, F-L-O-T, not flat, not F-L-A-T, but FLOT. That stands for a forward line of troops. What we're trying to do on this radio show is to use that military metaphor to explain to you how God has designed a problem-solving system for your life. If you will learn these problem-solving devices called the FLOT line, 10 unique problem-solving devices, then they will act like a main line of resistance in your soul, in your thinking, where you can stop the outside source of adversity before it ever becomes the inside source of stress. No one can take away any adversity. It's going to happen. It has to happen. But you don't have to live under worry. You don't have to live under fear. You don't have to live under anger. You don't have to live under bitterness. You can live the Christian life, which is a relaxed mental attitude, occupied with Christ, having great joy and great happiness in the midst of whatever you may be facing if you use the problem-solving devices. So God gave you two ends. You're sitting on one, and maybe you're thinking with one, but success in your life is going to depend which one you use. If you use heads, well, maybe you'll win. If you lose tails, you're just going to sit there and lose. So we give you accurate information. We don't give you human speculation. We're not after any solicitations. We're just giving you some information so you can verify and identify the plan of God through what I tell you, through what I teach you. And then if you want to orient and adjust to the plan, that's really up to you. My job is to be accurate, to get it right, to not to go off on some tangent, not to get into politics, but to give you the pure Word of God. Your job, if you decide to take it, is to renovate your thinking. Stop thinking of self in terms of arrogance, Romans 12, 3 says, but think in terms of humility as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. This is where you have to understand the Christian life is lived in your head. It starts with what you think. All of your motives, all of your intentions, all of your desires start with a thought that And when God wants to check you out, he's going to look at what you're thinking because the Bible says, as a man thinketh in his heart, so he is. And the real you is not what you are on the outside, it's what you are in your head. That's where you live the Christian life. And when your body ceases to operate, as you get older and begin to shut down and things wear out and break and eventually you cross over into death, your thinking goes with you. That's part of your soul. Your soul goes to heaven. Your mentality goes to heaven. Your spirit goes to heaven. Your body goes to the grave to await a resurrection body. But your thinking will go with you, and that's the greatest treasure you could ever possess is the treasure of God's Word because it gives you tremendous insight and discernment that other people don't have. That's why we push it so hard and tell you the most important thing you can do if you are a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ is to grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We're going up on 800 radio shows soon. We're up at 791 today. 791 Sundays we've been broadcasting this radio show across America. And what an honor, what a joy, what a delight it's been for me to do that. That's 791 Sundays. I don't know how many years that is. You can figure it out. But as we come into the 800, I've been looking for influencers. I've been talking about those of you that can be an influencer in your periphery. You may be a mother or father. You may be a teacher or a coach. You may be a businessman. You may be an entrepreneur. You may even be incarcerated, but you can be an influencer. And that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking to find those people who want to grow so much and learn God's Word so bad that they're willing to stand in the gap and be an influencer for God during these times that we live in. Because it's obvious that this country cannot survive if we continue to split down the middle with political and racial strife. Every day there's something new. I have a radio show that plays in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I see that in Kenosha there's terrible riots going on today. Racial strife. We can't continue to live like this. If you add to these things the loss of divine establishment principles like freedom, marriage, family, and nationalism, and you add losing the rule of law that we've prospered under for so many years, then you can see it coming through the trends of history. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's gonna happen. If we continue down this road, and possibly we will, we're not gonna have a country much longer. So we Christians must not lose sight of our mission. Our mission in these changing times is for us to be agents of change. The devil certainly has his agents of change running around, insisting that people change something, insisting on something that's impossible to get sometimes. But you can be an agent of change in your own life. by means of your invisible and historical impact for God. If you do that, the wonderful thing about being an agent of change, and we're gonna talk about it a little bit more, that's an influencer, that's what you are. The wonderful thing about that is in Revelation 2.10, the Bible says, if you will be faithful unto death, then I will give you a crown of life. This wonderful crown of life will be given to many of you listening today for your consistent fidelity in growth and application of the word of God in your life because that makes you an invisible hero and that gives you a national impact even though you may never get out of your city or never get out of your state. Your spiritual life is what counts. That decoration of the crown of life is awarded to invisible heroes just like you Those for maximum production of divine good. You remember what divine good is, don't you? Human good is things you do in the energy of the flesh. A Christian can do that. And divine good are things you do in the power of the Holy Spirit. All this is separated at the judgment seat of Christ in 1 Corinthians 3, where human good is called wood, hay, and stubble, and divine good is called gold, silver, and precious stones. Everything that you do as far as prayer, as far as giving, as far as attending church, as far as teaching a Sunday school lesson, as far as anything for God will be evaluated. Did you do it in the energy of the flesh with known sin in your life? Then it's human good. Or did you do it under the mentorship of the Holy Spirit produced and manufactured by Him? Then it's divine good. How can you know if you're filled with the Holy Spirit? Well, the Bible tells us if we rebound, 1 John 1, 9, if we're faithful and just to confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us. He always does. And that's the key to being filled with the Holy Spirit. Because what happens when you sin is you quench the Holy Spirit and you grieve the Holy Spirit. He's not able to do his job. And so the first problem-solving device we have as believers is how to solve our problem of sin and failure. And if we go to God, if we confess our sins, the Bible says, then he will be faithful and just to forgive us. When God cleanses you from sin, immediately you're filled with the Holy Spirit. When you sin and go out against God, if you use mental attitude sin such as worry or fear, anger, hostility, or if it's a sin of the tongue like gossip, maligning, criticizing, backbiting, lying, or if it's an overt sin, something you may do overtly like stealing or infidelity. If you do these things, immediately the Holy Spirit is quenched and grieved in your life. So you have to take stock every day, every moment of the day, just like I do. Am I under control of the Holy Spirit right now, or am I letting my flesh control me? Because the Bible tells me that this is the answer. If I will walk in the Spirit, then the flesh can't control me. So if you're going to be an influencer, you must be filled with the Holy Spirit. And if you are filled with the Holy Spirit, then you're going to produce divine good, and you will execute the plan of God. And you can be what we talked about last week. I introduced you to a word called yeshuran, the yeshuran believer. That's the believer who is a mature believer. He's gone through spiritual self-esteem, spiritual autonomy. He's in spiritual maturity, headed for evidence testing in his life, the yeshuran believer. And the crown of life is awarded for consistent filling of the Holy Spirit, consistent perception of God's word in your life on a daily basis, and the consistent use of God's problem-solving devices in your life. Your spiritual life is the solution to the continued freedom and prosperity that the United States of America has enjoyed for so many years. We know that because 2 Chronicles 7.14, we've heard this verse many times. It said, if my people, and of course this was written to the Jew, but we can make an application to us today. If my people, believers... which are called by my name Christians, shall humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear their prayer and I will forgive them and heal their land. This is a solution to what's going on in America today. It's not a politician that can change it. It's not a party that can change it, Democratic or Republic. It is you. You are the agent of change. You are the only one that can change it as you have an invisible impact in history. So those of you that are faithful, I salute you. I salute you that you're not being distracted by these things that are going on. I salute you that you are being faithful to grow in the grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I salute you that you are hanging in there, and I'm very proud of you. But you must maintain your focus on spiritual advance because each one of us, you, me, and our friends, we have the ability to change the course of history in this country if we will allow our spiritual growth and our spiritual life to have an impact with the gospel message. That's right. We can change the course of history. We have the most powerful weapon at our hand. Paul said, I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it, it, it is the power of God unto salvation. So the gospel message is the greatest power known to man. But we also have a Bible, and the Bible says the word of God is alive and powerful. So we have two power options available for us, the gospel message and The good news that Jesus Christ redeemed us out of the slave market of sin. The good news that we've been reconciled to God through faith alone in Christ alone. And the good news that we have the word of God as a treasure in our souls that has a national and international impact. So each of us must act as an agent of change where we stand firmly on God's word in every area of our life. I don't know if you know I played a little bit of football at the University of Alabama. and i played only one year before i went down the highway highway but my coach was bear bryant the famous paul bear bryant today it's coach nick saban and a tremendous coach he is but when bear bryant took over at alabama after leaving texas a&m and they've never forgiven him for that i promise you bryant said here's what he said he said i'm not worried about whether i'm going to win or lose i know i'm going to win and i know that And I'm not worried about my assistant coaches because I know they're winners. And I'm not worried about whether Alabama is going to win. I know that. The only thing I don't know is how many of you in this room are winners. And how many of you will stand with us? That's what I don't know either. Who are the winners? Who are the people that have the integrity and the fidelity to stand with God during these times, not get distracted by political discourse, not get distracted by prosperity, but to stand firm with the gospel message and have an invisible impact? You know, the devil has his own agent provocateurs waiting in the wings. He does agent provocateur. Maybe you never heard that word before. The agent provocateur is, we know him as an antichrist, political and social fixer who's going to come onto the scene eventually, who's going to offer change in times of world turmoil. And when does he come? Well, some people say the rapture must be close. Look at what's going on. Look at what's happening here. What you're seeing happening is the demise of the United States of America, not the demise of the world. You're seeing a country that has been great fall to its knees, being brought to its knees. But when will this antichrist show up? He's prophesied in the Bible to oppose the Lord Jesus Christ and substitute himself in the place of Christ before Christ returns for the second advent. In 2 Thessalonians 2, verses one through five, I'll read it. It's rather lengthy, but if you'll hang with me, I'll explain it. It says this, Paul wrote, now brethren concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him. Remember it's in two parts. The first part is when he comes in the air called the exit resurrection, 2 Thessalonians chapter four and the other part is the second advent when he returns to the earth and sets foot on the earth and he comes back to set up the millennial kingdom for 1,000 years with which we will be back with him ruling and reigning with him. So he says, when concerning the coming of the Lord and our gathered together with him, we ask you not to be shaken in your mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if it was from us, as though the day of Christ had already happened. See, some people had said it had already taken place. And he said, no, don't let anybody deceive you by means of that, for the day will not come unless the falling away comes first. And the man of sin is revealed, that's the agent provocateur, the son of perdition, the one who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that, let me turn the page here for you, he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. This happens in the middle of the tribulation when the Jewish temple is rebuilt. And he will walk into the temple and he will say, I'm God, worship me. And the Jews have been told when that happens to flee for their life. And then Paul went on to say, don't you remember that when I was still with you, I told you these things and you know what restrains him now. In other words, you know why he's not here yet. So that in his time he will be revealed. Well, the rapture has to take place first, and the Holy Spirit has to be removed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, and only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. That's the Holy Spirit. And then the lawless one will be revealed, that's the agent provocateur, the Antichrist, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of his mouth at the second advent and destroy with the brightness of his coming at the second advent. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan with all power, with all signs, with all lying wonders. and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because here's where the arrogance of the unbeliever gets him in trouble, because they did not receive the love of the truth so that they might be saved. And it's for this reason that God will send them strong delusion so they will not believe, and they will believe the lie, and that they may all be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. That agent provocateur is a person who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to. We have a lot of agent provocateurs running around in America today as I'm talking to you. Let me read it to you again. An agent provocateur, we call them demonstrators, is a person who acts to entice other people to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicates them in partaking in an illegal act so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to. In Webster's dictionary, he's called an agitator. He's called a demagogue, an exciter, a firebrand, a fomenter, an incendiary insider, an instigator, a rabble riser. Who are these people? They are the foot soldiers of what we call the oligarchy. Oligarchy, O-L-I-G-A-R-T-H-Y. Who are the oligarchy? They're the small number of wealthy, influential individuals who seek to control the course of history in their generation. From the Greek word, we get oligarchia, from oligos, which is a few, and arco, which means to command. So it's a compound word. It means to command, a few command. And it's a form of power structure in which power rests with very few influential families, often tyrannical and oppressive people, and often being ruled by the rich. And Satan is the master oligarchia, and he is the agent provocateur, and he has agent provocateurs in the world. They are called, and I'm gonna introduce you to a term here, they are called cosmic evangelists. Now, I'm an evangelist for the gospel, the message of the Lord Jesus Christ, his death, burial, and resurrection, redeeming us out of the slave market of sin and reconciling us to God. But these cosmic evangelists, these agent provocateurs, they seek to control and influence the world using a well-planned attack. And it's all predicted in Ephesians 6, 11 through 17, where it says, put on the armor of God so you can stand against the strategy of the devil. One of the main objectives of the agent provocateur is to infiltrate, and listen carefully now, to infiltrate and influence Christian churches, to infiltrate and influence Bible study groups, as well as influence political discourse. Paul had his own agent provocateurs in his ministry. In 2 Timothy 4, 14 through 15, one of his name was Alexander. He was a coppersmith. Paul said, he did me much evil. The Lord reward him according to his works. Of whom be thou wary also, for he hath greatly withstood our words. In 2 Timothy 4, 3 and 4, Paul wrote, for the time will come when they, will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lust shall they heap to themselves teachers, and they will have itching ears, and they will turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned into fables. Anyone who rejects the truth of the word of God fits into this category very neatly here. He's called a fool, and he thinks he's smarter than God. Proverbs talks all about this, and it's a disaster, it's a tragedy, but it's happening today in America where God's word is scoffed at, laughed at, rejected, and somehow or another someone thinks through a progressive or a socialistic idea that we can make America a nice place. You can't because people have sin natures. Even the agent provocateurs that promote this stuff have sin natures. and no one can control the sin nature except God the Holy Spirit. In 2 Timothy 3, 8, and 9, Paul talked about Janus and Jambres. These guys, these weird guys, were found in the book of Exodus. They were Egyptian sorcerers who opposed Moses before Pharaoh when Moses went to say, let my people go. And he said, as they withstood Moses, so do they also resist the truth today. Men who have corrupt minds, men that are reprobate concerning the faith, and they shall proceed no further, for their folly shall be manifested unto all men as theirs also was, as Janice and Jambres was. So we see that these agent provocateurs have always been around. They're the agents of Satan, the oligarchy, the one who controls history on this earth. Remember, he's the god of this world. This is not our home. We are going to heaven. Ouranos is where we belong, according to the Greek New Testament, not this earth. We're just strangers. We're pilgrims passing through. And while we're here, 2 Timothy 2.15 tells us we need to study to show ourselves approved unto God, workmen that need not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. That's so we don't get sucked into this stuff. We don't get sucked into political discourse. We don't get sucked into religious self-righteousness. But shun profane and vain babblings, for they will increase unto more ungodliness. That's exactly what goes on in political discourse. and the world will eat it, and their word will eat, what they say, what they teach will eat, as doth a canker, or cancer, of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus, who concerning the truth erred, saying the resurrection is past already, And they have discouraged and overthrown the faith of some. So this same pattern, the same pattern I'm talking to you about in misrepresenting God's word, misrepresenting the truth, is seen in all these verses. It's rejection of the truth and substituting it with a lie. You know, it's amazing how gullible the arrogant and the inadequate really are. Because truth is still being rejected today in American society. And the lure of happiness is promoted today. by the lie of humanism and progressive government, which is nothing but socialism, cooked over. Many solid sound pastors are even being picked off one by one, lured by their claim of extra biblical enlightenment. It's funny, but knowledge is an aphrodisiac to the arrogant rejecter of the truth. And a lot of people are looking for something extravagant, something exciting, something new. And what's there is the Word of God. It's always been there. If you look, there's plenty of exciting and new stuff there. But oh no, people have got to get into this sort of stuff. And these type people, these ministers, they are apparent amazing breakthroughs. Lure them. They lure their flock members who follow along based on the fact that they trust the preacher. They trust the individual. And before you know it, off they go. And they lose their impact. They're not agents of change anymore. 1 John 4 once said, Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they're from God or not. Because many false prophets have gone out into the world. That's the impact of religion in the world. the greatest impact of religion in the world. And this is Satan's ace trump. This is what he uses politically, economically, socially, is religion. And John's not ordering his audience to disbelieve everybody, but he's saying not to believe in everyone. It has to be a way to check out the information in order to see if the agent provocateur is trying to lure you with his personality or trying to get you into some false system of doctrine. When it comes to some new biblical claim, you must always use the caveat impetor, which is Latin for let the buyer beware. You must do your due diligence in regards to claims made by ministers of God because we of all people of faith have at our resources hours and hours and hours of the word of God taught by solid, sound, biblical pastor teachers. And so we are not to deviate from sound doctrine. Paul warned Timothy in 2 Timothy 1.13, retain the standard of sound words which you heard from me in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. So you and I have no excuse to be naive because a mature believer with insight and discernment, that's wisdom, should be mentally alert. We should be aware of what's going on because we are responsible for our own spiritual life and God expects us to guard our souls and We are not to deviate from sound doctrine, and we're not to drift from grace. The appeal to experience and abandoning of reason and faith gives ground for exploiting the immature believer. And you gotta be very careful here. In 1 Timothy 4, one and two, finally then, brethren, we request and exhort you in the Lord Jesus Christ, That as you receive from us instruction as to how you ought to walk and please God, just as you actually do walk, that you excel still even more. For you know what commandments we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ. The agent provocateur appeal is normally conducted through arrogance, but it can be disguised as flattery or affection in the cosmic system, politics. Suck you into politics. Oh, we need you to vote. We need you to get involved in politics. I talked to a dear friend yesterday who spent three hours with a political person, and it was the most boring three hours he ever spent because he couldn't get a word in edgewise. This person thinks that politics is going to change the world, and it won't. Cosmic system friendship is very dangerous, the Bible says, because it says evil friends corrupt good morals. That friend may be moral, he may be immoral, but the result is the same. They will sucker you into the cosmic system and you will lose your impact in this world and you will not be an agent of change. So please listen to me. Listen to what I'm telling you. We're at the crossroads of history and it's time for us to step up and be agents of change. It's time for us to step up and be influencers of It's time for us to commit ourselves to the Word of God and grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. It's time for you to get under a well-qualified pastor and begin a consistent study of growth. Are you listening? Are you paying attention? I hope so, because the course of history depends on you. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Join Mike Gallagher as he navigates the complex intersection of political, environmental, and societal issues impacting modern America. From the grassroots relief efforts aiding flood-impacted communities in Texas to exploring cloud seeding as a means of weather control, Gallagher's conversations are both engaging and thought-provoking. Through candid discussions about judicial overreach and the future of prominent American cities, this episode challenges listeners to think critically about where their values align with the future of the nation.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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I often come to work with a theme in my head, and today's theme is sort of, do you give up or do you dive in? Do you look the other way or do you have to face it squarely in the eye? Do you stare it in the eye? You know, do you give up on New York City? There's a statistic out. This... Communist, this socialist, this leftist lunatic, Zoran Mamdani, made history with his primary victory. Do you know he got the most total votes ever in the history of a New York City mayoral primary? The guy could very well win. We either ignore it and we just say, you know what, New York, let it burn. And I know a lot of people feel that way. Or you say, wait a minute, this is a cherished American city. It is the cultural and sports and culinary and financial epicenter of the country. We can't let it burn. We've got to fight. So that's one conflict. There's a conflict about the people who are politicizing the Texas floods. On the one hand, do you ignore them and hope they'll go away? Or do you identify these people, these ghouls, these horrific, horrific, awful people who are saying essentially that these little girls deserve to die because they're in a red state and their parents probably support Trump? Do you ignore them or do you expose them and do you shame them? Do you identify them? That's another one, another conflict. And speaking of the flooding, you've been asking us for days, how can you help? What can we do? And I'm ready. Thanks to Food for the Poor, this incredible organization. They are on the ground providing relief kits. Emergency relief kits to these flood-ravaged families. These are kits that include tarps, women's care kits, liquid IV, diapers, children's activity kits, and other essentials. Needed to ease the crisis, you can step up and help because just $50 will send a family in Kerr County, Texas, an emergency relief kit. $500. We'll send 10 families emergency relief kits. We'll have a link up shortly, but before we get there, I have a phone number I can give you right now where you can donate. 844-860-HOPE. That's 844-860-4673. So do your thing. You know what to do. Let's do what America does. Let's help our neighbors. And let's help the people of Kerr County, Texas. Again, 844-860-HOPE, 844-860-4673. Thank you. And let's not look the other way. And then finally, we've got the issue of the Epstein files. And some of my colleagues are rolling their eyes. I've got people who I respect and and consider friends, because they are. They're colleagues who just want the whole thing to go away, move on, nothing to see. My buddy Mark Davis in Dallas, my colleague and friend Hugh Hewitt, Hugh writes today for Fox News, there's no conspiracy theory, there's no list, there's nothing here. Basically, they got under the hood, the Trump administration, there's nothing there, move on. And see, I've got this pesky habit I like to listen to my audience. I do. I don't want to shut down conversation. That's what happened when Trump came on the scene. There were hosts who wanted to shut him down and shut MAGA down. Conservative hosts. Establishment Republicans who said, don't listen to these people. We're going to move on. And I said, wait a minute. We can't move on. We've got to be there for these people. What are you talking about moving on? Not listening. Condescending in your attitude. Patronizing. Oh, you, my friend Mark, and I hate to keep throwing him under the bus, but he calls people conspiracy dorks. You're conspiracy theory dorks. And there's just a segment, a small segment. MAGA isn't breaking apart. The Trump administration isn't collapsing. The Trump agenda isn't dead because of this. And look, he's right. This is not the DEFCON 1, World War III Armageddon that the legacy media wants it to be. They want us to be at each other's throats. Make no mistake, they want us to disagree with each other, and they want us to challenge Trump. Because remember, as I pointed out to one of my Trump-supporting buddies a few minutes ago, you push back against the narrative that there's nothing there. You're really pushing back against Trump. We saw his annoyance the other day when people were peppering Pam Bondi with questions. So understand, like it or not, you're telling Trump he's full of it. You're disagreeing, and that's okay. You're allowed to do that. It's okay. I just want you to know that. Recognize when you dive into this, when you push back against the narrative that there's nothing there, there's not a client Epstein list, You're pushing back against President Trump himself. And maybe you're willing to do that. Maybe you're not. 800-655-MIKE. Let's find out. Because, see, unlike some of my friends and colleagues, I do want to talk about the things that you want to talk about. And I'm getting the same emails and text messages and phone calls that everybody else is. This isn't going to, I think, fade away. Maybe it will. I don't know. But I am willing to engage you on this on any level you want. 800-655-MIKE. Eddie from Columbus writes a text on the MyPillow text line. Since the Biden administration weaponized the Justice Department, covered up Biden's cognitive decline, and lied about just about everything else they did, is it really that far-fetched to think that they wouldn't have destroyed all the evidence concerning the Epstein files? especially since he died in such a strange way. That's the kind of conversation, Eddie, that I'm willing to have. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life, and I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. 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Mike Gallagher.
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I want to dive right in. 20 past the hour. Here's Pennsylvania. I want to trust Trump. I've been let down for 63 years. I'm apprehensive at the very least. Elizabethtown, Kentucky. MAGA is not dead, but this just shows how deep the deep state is. I had a couple people on my team say that when I played the clip of Alex Jones crying in his car this week, just so upset when... the Trump administration announced that there's nothing here, you know, it's over, there's no list, there's no... I had a couple people say I kind of felt the same way. I was so despondent that after years of believing that there would be some kind of revelation about people who... were involved in the trafficking of young girls on Epstein Island, that it all comes to a close like this. Now, I also want to deal with, before we take your calls, and lines are jammed, and I promise I'll shut up here in just a moment, but I want to get this off my chest. None of us have ever met a conspiracy theory we didn't love. We're all prone to this. We're all enamored with, look at the weather. I saw a segment yesterday that Will Kane did on Fox News about cloud seeding. I could do nine hours. I could jam my lines for the next 12 hours with people who are convinced that the weather is being manipulated. And P.S., I think there's some merit to this. I watched a guy get interviewed who's involved in manipulating the weather. Guy's got a company that does it. It's called Cloud Seeding. Now, the guy said, now, these are not chemtrails. This is just taking already existing clouds and adding moisture. I didn't even know what he was talking about. But this guy's sitting there doing all these interviews, including Fox News Channel, talking about manipulating the weather. So don't tell me you can't manipulate the weather. Now, am I enamored with a conspiracy theory? Maybe. I don't know. Do I think that the weather got manipulated in Kerrville, Texas? No. But I also know what I don't know. Know what I mean? Know what I mean? All right, let's go. 800-655-MIKE. Kenny in San Antonio. We'll start there. Hey, Kenny, welcome aboard. How you doing?
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Good. Thank you, sir. Good. I have to say probably there was a list at some point, but like you said, it's been expunged, whatever. But I have to agree with someone I heard on the radio the other day. Knowing Kash Patel and Dan Bongino the way we do, especially Dan, I think he'd rather quit or cut off a right arm rather than let pedophiles on this magnitude get away.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree. See, that's the thing. You're going to have to believe, and that's such an important point, that people who we admire and trust so deeply, including Trump himself, you'd have to believe that they're involved in a massive cover-up of pedophiles. And I don't believe that. You're right. I don't believe that about Dan Bongino. Dan Bongino is a law and order guy. Dan Bongino is not going to let people get away with this. So, look, I'll say, I'll admit, I'm inclined to believe that what they say is true. That they've investigated it. There's no list there. There's no there there anymore. The guy, the monster that was the head of the snake, he's dead. I'm not sure how he died, but they say he killed himself, and they say it's time to move on. I'm inclined to go with that, okay? That's me. But what I'm not going to do is shut you down if you don't agree with me. Gerardo is in San Jose, California. Hi, Gerardo. How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, Mike. One of the things that made the MAGA movement is exposing the media and how they tried to make fools of us. Now, the message that the president and his administration is doing is saying that, hey, Jelaine Maxwell's in prison for what? For nothing? For trafficking minors to nobody? Why is she in there? So that's the question that we all have. Same thing with Epstein, the first time in 06.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so let me go back to what I just said, though, a moment ago. Then do you believe people who have the character that Dan Bongino or Donald Trump possess are involved in a massive cover-up of pedophiles? They may be threatened. Who's threatened? Who knows? But you're suggesting that Dan Bongino and Donald Trump and others are compromised, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, what I'm suggesting is why is Jelaine Maxwell in jail for? That's not what I asked you.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a conspiracy theory tactic, and I do it too. I love to do it. I'm not finding fault with you, but I do the same thing. Let's pivot to something else real quick. Look, I don't know what she's in. I can find out. Tracy, pull up reasons why she's incarcerated. I don't know why she's in prison, but what I do know is you're suggesting that Trump and people like Trump and Dan Bongino are involved in a massive conspiracy to cover up pedophiles.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not necessarily Trump because he does have a little bit more power, but Dan Bongino being a family guy, and if anybody approaches his family in any way, I think he'll be defensive or he'll, like, try to protect them in any way. But my question, I mean, so that covers that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, what it covers in your mind is Dan Bongino is compromised because he doesn't want his family threatened. Look, here's the other point of view, and I just got a text from Orlando. And, again, I'm not shutting down what people are talking about. Orlando says, I'm so sick of Epstein talk from people like you and Glenn Beck. Get over it. I'm turning your radio show off. I'll see you Monday. Well, what about tomorrow? You going to skip Friday? Or are you so enraged, Orlando, that you think it's Friday already? But, again, that's a relevant point of view. That's the point of view of my friend Mark Davis.
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Mark says, look, I think it's a tune-out for people. I think all this Epstein talk annoys people. And clearly there's somebody in Orlando who's annoyed. And they're giving me the ultimate threat. We're going to turn you off. You're done. We're finished.
SPEAKER 10 :
And we'll miss you, but I hope you'll come back, Orlando. I really do. Hope you'll come back. Look, like I said, I'm inclined to believe there's no there there. And frankly, I'm inclined to move on, but I'm not going to move on before I hear you out. Because that's what I like doing here on the Mike Gallagher Show. I hope you don't mind. Sorry, Orlando. 800-655-MIKE. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and Big Deal. Two sales in one. First, they're having a closeout sale on the percale bedsheets. Any size, any color, $25. You can get Queens, Kings, Split Kings, California Kings, any size, any color, $25. It's a crazy sale from MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Special Square. The second sale, Mike Lindell has introduced a brand new energy drink called Rev7. It's a premium energy drink that's good for you. It tastes great, gives you energy all day. I sampled it yesterday for the first time. It is delicious. No sugar, no caffeine. Rev7 is so special because it's powered with a premium nootropic that helps fuel your mind. MyPillow is so confident you're going to love Rev7 that for a limited time you can try their introductory three-pack absolutely free. Now, these offers aren't going to last long. So go to MyPillow.com, use the promo code MikeG, MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
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Welcome back. Congress is looking to take action, at least some in Congress, after the tragic flooding in Texas. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene is targeting weather modification. She announced on X, introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release or dispersion of chemicals into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering the weather, adding it will be a felony offense. We must end the dangerous and deadly practice of weather modification. Now, one of the techniques under the umbrella of weather modification is cloud seeding. It's an experiment that dates back to 1946, and it's now especially widespread in Texas, covering about one-sixth of the state, spanning 31 million acres. So what is cloud seeding? It's a technique designed to help a cloud produce more rain, and here's how it works. A chemical compound, most oftenly silver iodide, is used to form small crystals that are put into clouds. It's usually by a drone. That process then helps trigger rain. It can also reduce hail and clear fog. It's produced, by the way, modest results so far, increasing rainfall anywhere from 5 to 20 percent. Now, here's how it's used. States use cloud seeding to produce rain in areas that are experiencing drought. It can also help generate snow in mountain regions. One of the instances of how it's been used in history, by the way, is Operation Popeye in the Vietnam War. Our army used it to prolong the monsoon season, hoping to bog down the Viet Cong's logistics line, making it harder for them to reinforce the front line. Now, my next guest is an expert in this field. He's also been the center of a lot of controversy since the flooding in Texas. And here's what he has said in the past about cloud seeding.
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If you have the right kind of radar and you fly in a zigzag or in a circle or in your initials and you only see precipitation on the radar in your flight track, then you can say, oh, that is definitively man-made because we flew in this zigzag or we flew in this spiral and there's only precipitation occurring in that shape. They did that in Idaho in 2017 multiple times.
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Now, I want you to take a look at this. The red line at the bottom of your screen, that's the flight path of his company, Rainmaker, and their cloud seeding operations on July 2nd, just days before the deadly Texas floods. Now, some are questioning whether or not that flight played a role in the floods.
SPEAKER 10 :
My gosh. So, I mean, is that a conspiracy theory? The guy's name is Augustus Dorica. He's the Rainmaker Tech Corporation CEO. Look, I got to say it, and you could get mad at me again, Orlando, and turn me off until... Eric, incidentally, made a great point. Don't you love it when people like the texter from Orlando gets mad at me for a topic? And instead of just going away... has to sit down and compose a text to tell me that you're going away. And you'll see me next Monday. I love the line on the internet that says, you're not a train station, you don't need to announce your departure.
SPEAKER 09 :
This is the Long Island Railroad, train number 4755 for Manhasset, departing at 455.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's Orlando. That's the linear equivalent. And all it is is to try to get at me. You know, I just love it. And people don't understand. It just cracks me up. And Eric's right. You're so upset at me for talking about something for a few minutes that you don't want to talk about, i.e. the Epstein files, that you've got to announce that you're going to turn me off, you're going to go listen somewhere else, or you're never going to hear me again, and may a pox be on my household. I love that. This is a train station. You don't need to announce your departure. Anyway, so let's dive into this because Will suggested that cloud seeding is a real thing. He's the CEO of a company called Rainmaker. And of course, is it beyond the pale that man is capable of Of creating rain. What is cloud seeding? Does this have something to do with chemtrails? My buddy Lionel in New York City... hates that term chemtrails. Now, Lionel's a big believer in all this stuff. He's never met a conspiracy theory he didn't love. And Lionel is like, don't call them chemtrails because that's a tune-out phrase. But there's something going on up there. So let me turn it over to you, 800-655-MIKE. Pennsylvania just texted me, Mike, these theories aren't conspiracies if they are true. So is it a conspiracy theory? Do we ignore it? Do we pretend it doesn't exist? Or do we dive in? Do you think there are efforts to manipulate the weather? And as Will Cain pointed out, there was evidently some kind of flight pattern going In Texas, that may or may not have contributed to the flooding there. You know, the left likes to say these terrible... Nature events are the result of the devious Republicans who leave big carbon footprints. It's our fault. It's man's fault, particularly Republicans' fault. But on the other hand, maybe something's going on with this flooding that has to do with cloud seeding. And if indeed there's such a thing as cloud seeding, well, that is absolutely definitive evidence evidence of weather manipulation. Incidentally, we found a story, real quick, one last final note on, because the guy said why, everybody says why is Ghislaine Maxwell in prison? She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls for at least a decade. She was convicted of of multiple charges related to sex trafficking and conspiracy. Well, what the caller was asking is, if she was involved in trafficking, who were the men that were abusing the children? I mean, trafficking isn't just for Jeffrey Epstein. And that's the question that a lot of reasonable people are asking. So, all right, let's move on now on our homage... to Conspiracy Day and find out about cloud seeding and weather manipulation.
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During every presidency, we're going to have a variety of opinions about how a particular administration is conducting business, whatever you think of Donald Trump. whether you love him, whether you hate him, whether you're indifferent, you have to be concerned about things like the executive branch and constitutional authority. I've read Dan McLaughlin for years. He's a senior writer at National Review Online and a fellow at National Review Institute. And he wrote a piece after a district, a single federal judge, one Obama appointee, ordered that the defunding of Planned Parenthood as specified in the One Big Beautiful Bill can't happen and that the funds have to continue. To quote Dan's article... You got that right. A single federal judge is ordering that public monies be spent after the Congress of the United States specifically passed a law declining to spend them. You can't argue with the judge's reasoning, Dan says, because there isn't any. It's just a raw exercise of power. Let's welcome to the show Dan McLaughlin, senior writer at National Review Online. Dan, I'm very honored you could join us. Thanks for spending a few minutes with our audience here at the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you, sir? All right. Good morning, Mike. Let's talk a little bit about the idea of a judge, one judge trying to block justice. an agenda item like this. This is not just a typical policy position that Trump came up with. As you put it in your column, this was something that the Congress specifically did. And yet you say that the resistance of these judges can sometimes be described as justified, sometimes excessive, but sometimes downright lawless and dangerous. This is the case indeed with Planned Parenthood versus Kennedy, is it not?
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Yeah, I mean, this this decision is to use a technical legal term bonkers. I mean, it's really and it's shocking. What's shocking is not that one judge would decide this case because it's actually it's not like a nationwide injunction case. Right. It's dealing with just Planned Parenthood. But what is shocking is that, you know, they filed suit on the bill was signed into passed on Thursday, signed into law on Friday. They filed suit on Monday afternoon and she issues a temporary restraining order immediately without even waiting to see a brief from the Justice Department. Right. So she does this entirely after hearing from one side. which is extraordinary judges do extraordinary things but when they issue a temporary restraining order the usual idea is they're just trying to keep things as they are right like if if you and i are fighting about a bank account and you go to court and say you know restrain that guy from giving that money away so that the judge has time to decide whose money it is that's fine But this is the opposite of that. The judge is ordering that the money go out the door. And it really goes to the very core power of Congress. There is no power of Congress more important than the power to decide not to spend public money. And our system is designed so that the House in particular can just say no. And here they went beyond saying, no, we're not going to fund that. They affirmatively declined to fund it. So it's really, really extraordinary that they've done this and that she's done this and that she's created this confrontation not only with Trump, because there have been a lot of confrontations between Trump and judges, but in this case between her and Trump and Congress and really the appeals courts, because she's trying to get the money out the door before an appeal can be filed.
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And it's not just this judge. In fact, almost in real time, as we're talking just today, a federal judge in New Hampshire has placed a new nationwide block on President Trump's efforts to end birthright citizenship. Now, two weeks ago, the U.S. Supreme Court opened a path for the Trump administration to begin enforcing the order, but today... U.S. District Judge Joseph LaPlante issued a temporary injunction. So, you know, the dilemma, Dan, seems to be this. You write in your column how the executive branch must comply with the rule of law and the order of courts. So Trump haters, Trump critics, people opposed to the Trump administration will say, well, wait a minute, a judge comes along and says you've got to keep funding Planned Parenthood. Trump has to go along with that. What do you say to that argument?
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I think that's normally the rule, but there are, you know, there are cases at the outer limits of that. And I think, you know, I think if Trump goes to the First Circuit and the Supreme Court and they issue a reasoned, you know, judicial opinion after hearing from both sides saying this law is unconstitutional, which I don't think it is. I don't think there's a reasonable argument that it is. You know, then that's one thing. And Trump, I think, at that point would have to comply. But I don't think that, you know, that he ought to to send the money out the door that he can't get back again. You know, I mean, that's that's an egg that cannot be unscrambled at that.
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They're just trying to run out the clock. In other words, kick the proverbial can down the road and get as much funding as they can for as long as they can before cooler heads prevail. And I guess the Supreme Court comes back. I mean, Dan, what is the remedy to all of this? Is it solely with SCOTUS? Is that the only choice we have?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there are several remedies. I mean, obviously, first, they can go to the First Circuit, the Intermediate Appeals Court, although the First Circuit is pretty liberal. They can go to the Supreme Court. Obviously, Trump has the self-help remedy here if he can simply refuse to disperse the money unless and until, you know, there's been an appellate resolution of this. You know, there's also the matter, I mean, Congress does not have the votes to impeach a federal judge, and they haven't, you know, they haven't tried to do that over a judge's rulings since 1804. But they could certainly pass a resolution of censure. Trump could ask the appeals courts to take this judge off the case. Something like that would at least send a message that, you know, this kind of misconduct is not just lightly tolerated, even by federal district judges.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's got to stop. It just has to stop. And I hear it from people in our audience every day. We've got to stop these rogue judges who are clearly, as you put it – I mean, look, National Review, it's not a secret. You guys aren't exactly MAGA. And I don't say this as a criticism, but – It's not like you're fawning over a Trump agenda item. You're concerned about the rule of law. You're a litigator. You've covered this for years, and you're very alarmed by these rogue – these district judges coming along and trying to thwart the will of Congress. That's deeply, deeply problematic. And, Dan, I would submit that whatever you think of Trump and his agenda, whatever you think of this administration – This has got to you got to push back against this or we're going to have nothing but chaos and anarchy.
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Yeah. And this is this is we saw a similar thing in in I think it was February or March with Judge Ali in D.C. with the USAID case where, again, he was trying to force them to spend money. You know, I think one of the fair criticisms of Trump at times has been that his administration is trying to race ahead of the courts to create new facts on the ground before the law can catch up with it. And it's fair to be concerned about that. But here we have judges doing exactly that. And that cannot be tolerated. The executive branch shouldn't tolerate it. The Congress shouldn't tolerate it. And the appeals courts shouldn't tolerate it.
SPEAKER 10 :
We're visiting with Dan McLaughlin, senior writer at National Review Online. He's a fellow at the National Review Institute. I want to throw you a little bit of a curveball in the minute or two we have left. I know that you've practiced law in New York City. You know New York City. You're a big baseball fan. I know baseball crank. I follow you, and I love your work. Let's talk a little bit about the historic primary victory of Mamdani, if you don't mind. Because, look, he made history the other day. He got more votes in a New York City primary that have ever been recorded in the history of New York. This guy's got a lot of momentum. Dan, as a guy who loves New York my whole life, I dreamed of getting a job there and working and living there and playing there, and I did. I loved living in midtown Manhattan. I love the vibe, the energy. I know what New York represents not only to America but to the world, the financial and the entertainment and the cultural center of the universe. for Zoran Mamdani to get elected mayor? Are you as terrified by that prospect as I am?
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Oh, yeah. It's very... It's extremely ominous. I will say, by the way, he didn't get the most first-place votes. It's only because of this weird rank-choice voting system that they allocated him more votes. The record is... Although the record is still held by David Dinkins, which is a very dubious person, you know, in whose footsteps to follow. So... I mean, part of the problem here is, you know, there's this enormous generational turnover in New York. You know, people come and go from the city. Most people aren't lifelong New Yorkers. You know, Mamdani was born when Dickens was mayor. He doesn't remember what the city was like back then. There's a lot of young people in New York. There's a lot of immigrants in New York. Always have been a lot of immigrants in New York. So there's a lack of historical memory of what the city had to do to get to be where it got under Giuliani and Bloomberg. But look, there's about 8.8 million people in New York, 5.5 million registered voters, about 3.3 million registered Democrats. And even with the rank choice, Mamdani has about 550,000 votes. So You know, that's about a tenth of the of the overall registered voter population city. So, you know, the challenge of stopping Mamdani is to get everybody behind one candidate and get, you know, some decent turnout because turnout's been very low in the last few mayoral elections. But, you know, that's not easy to do with the egos involved and some of the characters involved, like Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo as your alternatives to Mamdani. But I think it really is, you know, Mamdani would be... You know, in the footsteps of, say, Brandon Johnson in Chicago or worse, particularly as a guy who is sort of vocally pro Hamas, you know, in a city that is not only economically and culturally important to America, but diplomatically important because of the U.S.
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I cannot even begin to imagine what it must feel like to be a Jewish New Yorker and know that a guy like this who has displayed what I think is rank anti-Semitism could actually become the mayor of New York City. Jewish New Yorkers must feel completely, completely in despair.
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Yeah, no, I mean, I think there's a lot of very genuine alarm. The question is, does that alarm translate into political action and political unity?
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We will see. We will see. I appreciate your work very much, and I'm glad you could spend a few minutes with us. And I also love your work about, you know, one of my great insights to baseball is having one of my best friends, a longtime, decades-long Major League Baseball umpire. Boy, do I have stories, Dan. What a way to make a living, huh? Almost beats what we get to do. Thanks for joining us, Dan. All the best. Thanks for having me. You bet. 19 past the hour, Dan McLaughlin, National Review Online. And I think the question remains, and it's one that I think about a lot, to this audience, and I would pose it to you. Do you let New York destroy itself by getting this guy, letting this guy get elected? Should we fight for New York? I was talking to our team yesterday. We might be trying to put together like a rally, a Stop Mom Donnie rally in the New York area in October because I believe New York is worth fighting for. On the other hand, maybe your attitude is give them what they deserve. They get what they deserve. If they're stupid enough to vote for a radical, dangerous, far, far left Like Dan just said, mayor of Chicago on steroids? Well, then you get what you deserve. Knock yourself out. Have fun, New York. It's up to you. Where are you with that? Whether you're in New York or beyond, let's get everybody's perspective. 800-655-MIKE. Do you let New York fend for itself? They're on their own? Or do you think we all ought to be fighting? to try to block Zoran Mamdani for New York City mayor. 800-655-MIKE. Join us. Hey, what about Epstein? I got to play this for you. Guys, can you – Can we sit tight for two seconds? Sure, sure, because I know you don't want to do it. Oh, I'm going to beat you to death with it because I like Tom. I like me some Tom Fitton.
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It's kind of okay, and I do like Tom Fitton. Before we go crawling into that dork's treehouse cave, on the notion of reaction to blood stuff, You and I went through something kind of interesting, but you did on your own show, and I did on Twitter back and forth, of people, I guess supposedly good-hearted, decent folks, who reacted to something in a very weird way. You gave me, and this was live radio reaction because I didn't know it was coming. You characterized to me this beautiful painting of a loving Jesus welcoming you. girls with hugs and their smiles. It's emblematic of the joy that awaits us all in heaven, whether we arrive.
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Somebody captioned, this is what I imagine heaven looked like.
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Absolutely.
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The morning of September 5th, July 5th.
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I'm about to take a call from not only somebody who doesn't, the painting's not their favorite thing, but help me out with this. You took a call from somebody yesterday who said the painting was fantastic.
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Sinful? Graven images. He said it's violating the commandment against worshiping graven images. I said, nobody's worshiping the painting.
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Yep, the guy was very... So it's not a cartoon contest where you get shot for drawing Muhammad. I mean, that's not our thing.
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This is intriguing because the man did declare that he believes every painting, every depiction of Jesus is sinful because he believes... It's all sinful. All of it is sinful, and that was his position. But now let's go a little deeper. Let's talk about your pal, Uncle Barky. Uncle Barky, who's a Texas fixture, Dallas-Fort Worth guy. TV literature. And Trump hating TDS sufferer. I mean, he's foaming at the mouth, hates Donald Trump, and seems to hate conservatism. That's fine. That's up to him. A lot of people in the media and a lot of those TV folks, that's how they are. Well, he posted yesterday, when you reposted that painting, he said, not my favorite thing either. And you said, excuse me? And what did he say?
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And what did he say the problem was? He said, first of all, I'm raised Catholic. I was an altar boy or whatever. He said that the painting seemed to deliver not a proper rationale for the tragedy that Jesus or God would snatch these kids and be happy about it. I said, dude, stop. Snatch these kids? What? No, there's nothing in this painting that suggests that a gleeful Jesus said, time to go get the mystic girls. What? It was just very strange. Everybody comes at this in a wide variety of ways. And the painting didn't have to be your favorite thing. But, wow, there certainly was nothing dark about it.
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The painting happens to be a joyful expression of Christianity and our faith and everything we believe. And for a guy who says he was raised a Catholic and an altar boy to not like the image of a beaming Jesus welcoming these children into his arms, that is beyond peculiar. But here's the thing. I tell you, and Uncle Barky's probably in this category, just complete, full-time contrarians. And we have it in our business every day, Mark, whether it's a caller, whether it's a texter, somebody that can take the most wholesome, wonderful thing and dump all over it. They're just contrarians. They're going to like, well, wait a minute, I'm going to take the opposite point of view here. And you've got to be aware of contrarians. we got a lot of that going on right now with Trump and with EPS and I want to include the Epstein thing. I will. Well, but let's Mark, you can't run from this. You can't.
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What's my favorite is wisdom and knowing whom to ignore. This is not a magic controversy. It is not a bedrock problem for Trump. It is not an uprising. It is not. These people are an annoyance. It's not that they don't have a point they can make. It's fine. I get it. I get it. I get it. But doggone it, man. Well, let's play Tom Fitton.
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You said yesterday, you declared... Literal length of the Tom Fitton cut. It's short. You declared there's no... Here's what you said. The reason I want to play it is because you told me definitively there's no Epstein list. Oh, really? There's no Epstein list. Really, Mark? No, there's no list. You don't think there's a list.
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sitting there of firm clients that we know about.
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For years, they've been talking about the Epstein client list, including Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino, but Pam Bondi, people at the highest levels of government right now.
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About some people who used to be in the commentary world like Bon Jovi. And you know what they did? They got important jobs where they have access to this information and said, you know what? Maybe it wasn't in the form of some actual tidy list. We can find old Bill Clinton, old Bill Gates. That could be. That could be. Yeah. Ain't no client list. That was always, it was always catnip for conspiracy dorks.
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You could be right, but you could be wrong. You could absolutely be wrong. Well, there may never be a day the list comes out because it ain't going to happen. Here's Tom Fitton last night with Laura Ingram.
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I think they decided for political purposes they didn't want to include the individuals who are on these lists and put them in the public domain. And they were concerned that some of them maybe may not have done something warranting the disclosure. I mean, that's that's the most charitable interpretation.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's all I'll say, but I don't know what you're saying, Mark. In other words, Dan Bongino and Kash Patel are protecting people of power and privilege on some imaginary list. Do you believe that?
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I don't know that I can rule it out. I don't know I can't rule it out. I'm ruling that. Really?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm ruling that. I do not believe. And again, my faith and trust, my bar is high. I mean, Trump, you and I have talked a lot about, we trust Trump. Terrorists might not be our favorite thing in a vacuum. Trump wants to do it, let's trust him. Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, these are people of rock-solid character. These are people whose service to this nation in many ways is beyond doubt, and I am going to choose to trust them and not for one solitary second believe that they are involved in some sinister protection racket of the rich and powerful on some imaginary Epstein-Claude.
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And I respect that, and I— And I respect that view. I just don't want to run from our audience. And I get annoyed sometimes. You're shutting down. Well, you're talking to people and you're talking down to people. You're saying, there you go, a bunch of dorks, conspiracy dorks. Oh, all the conspiracy. You're talking down to them, Mark. You're patronizing them. You're patronizing your own audience.
SPEAKER 11 :
people who will not hear the other side there is there are there are principles and habits of conspiracy dorkery no matter what they hear it always brings me back no matter what i know and if somebody i know all things being equal i kind of do think there's like that's fine i'll talk to somebody like that yeah yeah yeah i got it i got it you're getting some of what christine all is doing by saying i'm not going to talk about it and then talking about it for two flipping hours you're
SPEAKER 10 :
It's catnip. It's hard. It's hard to ignore it. It's hard to ignore. But here's the thing. And I learned this early on in the Trump era. There were certain hosts who said, I'm not going to entertain this Trump guy. I'm not going to talk to my audience. I don't want to listen to them. And look, we got a bunch of people, Mark, who are talking about this. And for us to say, la, la, la, la, la, I'm not going to talk about it. They're just dorks.
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I think it's the truth. I think in entertaining, oh, please, everybody in conspiracy treehouse land, please fill my lines for three stinking hours. You are still serving the 90-plus percent. We want you to talk about the way we're saving America and things that are real problems rather than just this Epstein garbage. So if you're talking about serving the listeners, I'd say me being damn done with it serves them a lot better than indulging it for another day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Fair enough. That, ladies and gentlemen, is Mark Davis, D-A-V-I-S, at Mark Davis on X. Boom. I, on the other hand, am Mike Gallagher at Gallagher Show. I love all people. I'm peace and love. Peace and love. I'm here for everybody.
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A weirdo Florida Man. Golly, he has some serious red hair. Sorry. Wow. Wow. Wow. There's no way. Okay, anyway, I guess way. Central Florida man is arrested for peeping into neighbor's homes. Of course he is. An Auburndale man was arrested and accused of peeping into the homes of two female neighbors. Residents of a mobile home park where he resided, apparently, his name's Tyler Mountain, 28 years old. They said he was surreptitiously recording... and taking photographs of people in their homes using his cell phone. And that, I mean, they got him on voyeurism and some other stuff, but he would peep inside and then he would get, I mean, he was like on the porch or on the back porch or like right up against the window trying to get like video footage and photographs and that. He was booked in a Polk County jail, charged with burglary of an occupied dwelling, two counts, voyeurism, stalking, loitering, and prowling. And also in November of 23, he exposed himself twice. To two different women. So he's lucky that he's alive because I see you on my property doing that. It's Glock o'clock. That's not even messing, man. Giggity Glock. What's happening? Let's see. What is happening with this? OK, Plato's Closet is a resale shop. When I was younger, I thought it was the coolest place ever. Florida man uses his phone to record underage girls in fitting rooms. Again, Glock o'clock. He was arrested. Again, video voyeurism. He used a cell phone to record girls inside a Seminole County store over the Fourth of July weekend. Officers responded. Thirty nine year old Brian Bishop. They got him on camera, the security camera doing this. Like, how does someone go into a store? There's there's so prolific security cameras are everywhere. They're ubiquitous. And he goes in and he's doing this and he's you see him bending down and like. putting the phone under the doors to record on the other side of the doors. I mean, you can see him in the video doing this. And one of the girls noticed the phone and began yelling. And that's when he left the store. But they found him. They booked him in jail. And now he goes before a judge. He appeared before the judge yesterday. I don't have any other updates to that, but he appeared before a judge yesterday. I mean, I'm not kidding you. The fact that these dudes like this do not get shot. Yeah. Are they like picking times or places where they think that nobody, because I absolutely will mark a dude for doing, for like preying on women like this and minors. No way, man. Let's see this. Oh, let's do this one. Driver shoots fireworks from his car while doing donuts in Orlando Street. I thought this was America. It doesn't really seem that crazy, except you can't be driving on the streets like this. You'd take an old beater car into an old cornfield and do this.
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We just had a story yesterday of an old man dying from fireworks, so it's pretty serious.
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Make sure you go sign up at Substack Chapter & Verse. Find us at Facebook, YouTube, Like, and Subscribe. The chat is not rumble. And Channel 347, the simulcast of the radio program. It's already tough when you're flying, right? You're on an aluminum tube and you're in the sky. And I just get real antsy when I feel like I'm being held captive with a bunch of people. I don't even know how I'm going to do a cruise later. The academic thing with MRC going up to Norway. I mean, it's not like I can scale up the size of a fjord to get away or anything. Oh. But being on a plane, like where else are you going to go? Like open the door and fall to the ground? Like where else are you going to go? Hide in the bathroom? Hide in the lavatory? So I get it. When it's time to get off the plane, people want to get off, especially if you have connecting flights. That can be tricky. Or if you've got to use the loo. Because using the restroom on the plane is probably one of the nastiest things ever next to riding the subway in New York. It's horrible. They're always so bad. Like you got to use it first and then just give it up. Then you just give it to God after that because that's, you know, only he can help after that point. So I get it. You want to get off the plane, right? But I think there's like ways to be polite about it. But also people don't want to be polite in today's society for whatever reason. It feels like there's less of it. I think there's less of it because people are tired of putting up with stuff. They're just tired. People are just tired. There's too much. There's too much happening. So, Audio Sunbite 17, this is at Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood International Airport. This woman went on a tirade because she was getting criticized by passengers for getting up and moving forward to get off the plane before the passengers in front of her were able to get off. Now, I don't know how all of this kicked off because, you know, it's always, we have all of these, it's like Bigfoot. We have phones and all these video recording things, but, you know, nobody gets Bigfoot. So I don't know exactly how bad it got to get to this point, but I'll hear somebody at 17. This is what happened.
SPEAKER 05 :
let the people go get up the way you want to okay you're just you're just a cavern and that's just the way it is just deal with it people my god why don't you all shut up it's not affecting any of you You guys are so funny. You're the Karens about it because you're the ones who are making noise. Nobody's bothering you. I'm sorry, do you have my permission to record me? Shut the up. Now she's here. Yep, because you've never said one. I can tell you have. Yes, I can. That guy wouldn't even do nothing.
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He'd just sit back there and she'd get beaten up.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can be a judge. No, you're not going to insult someone because of an accent. We're not doing that. Don't put your finger in me.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is a low IQ review. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
You ain't going to change this. I love when they say ain't and they talk about low IQ. I use aids and I'm in a doctoral program. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's a big deal.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't say ain't.
SPEAKER 02 :
You're racist. I'm a doctor.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do you even know what racist means?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, my God. Wait, you're white. That's racist. Maybe xenophobic.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're talking about accents. Maybe it's the vocabulary. When we get off this plane, I'll meet you out there with my bar card.
SPEAKER 06 :
Everybody is insufferable. I'm sorry, but everybody on this plane is insufferable. They're all horrible. Everyone is horrible. If I was the pilot, I would have dove it into the ocean. Like gone doing mankind a favor. Oh my gosh. Where do you even start? She was trying to get off. She wanted to get off the plane before every, I've been, I've seen that before. Most, most of the time people are nice. The only time that I ever said anything on a plane is when people were trying to rush forward was actually my oldest son was with me. Can't remember where we were going, but there was an elderly lady who was right across the aisle from us. And she was like really elderly. And apparently like talked to her a little bit. She, her husband had passed earlier that year. She was going to see her sister whose children had placed her sister in a nursing facility. So I'm already like, my heart is already hurting for this lady. Right. And we helped her put her suitcase up and helped her get situated because she had she wasn't she didn't have mobility issues, but she was like 80 something. She was very she's still an independent lady, sharp as a tack. And she had every right to fly. But, you know, just have a little consideration. Right. So when the plane landed. And everyone's getting up and my son was actually making sure she got up and had her tote bag. There was a younger woman and then people just started coming forward. And one woman literally pushed past her to get to the front and almost knocked this woman on the other two passengers in the seat. And then everyone else, it was like, they saw this one lady going up and I'm, you know, I'm like immediately trying to help this elderly lady because the flight attendants were in the front. They're opening the door. They're not right there in your section. And I'm like, this woman is going to get trampled. And all these people came up. So I got up and I was like, can you please wait? You know, I'm still trying to literally get her up from the aisle. And this was probably like, in 2009 2010 and they kept pushing so finally i lost my cool and i did yell at people i was like can you guys just chill the hell out for five seconds i'm like we're all going to the same place i'm like can i let her get up first because she got knocked down by one of you and i was so mad that they didn't even notice that this woman was literally knocked over in the aisle and And I made sure she got out before us. So if they were going to like try to run her down again, at least they would they would hit me and my child first. But, you know, getting off the plane and she she was just slow getting up. She wasn't like slow walking. It was just, you know, she's 80 something. And I was just like, and I think the people realized what happened and they saw her kind of trying to get out of it. Cause when you fall in between those aisles, you know how hard that is to get, if you're not eighties, it's like hard to get up anyway. Cause you're on your stuff. You can't move this. You can't get up. It's awkward. And I think they realized, oh my gosh, we got to chill. We knocked this little lady down. And then they were fine after that. But I literally did have to yell at people. That's the only time I ever did. Otherwise I just don't care. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane. I always whenever we have connecting flights, there's only been one time that it's been close because there was nothing else. But I always give myself tons of time if I got a connecting flight somewhere. A, I avoid connecting flights. But if I have to take one, I always give myself tons of time. And not everybody can prepare that, you know, plan that far in advance, but just try. But I mean, what is it going to save you a couple of minutes to rush forward if that happens? This doesn't make any sense. But the problem with this is that I don't know if she had a connecting flight. I don't know. She could have been a heck of a lot nicer. And everybody else could have been. But she didn't say, Cain, at any point that she had a connecting flight that she had to get to or anything like that. She was just like, you know, whatever. I mean, why? Lady, lie.
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If I had a connecting flight, I would say, yeah, all right, you guys, you got me. But, you know, I have a connecting flight. So that's why I got up here.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I've been on planes where they're like, if you don't have a connecting flight, can you let other people go forward? And it's like, I don't have an issue. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane. And my husband likes to get off the plane as soon as possible. But I'm like, chill. We don't got to be in a rush. It's all good. It's all good. Clearly, some people got places they got to be. Just let it go. It doesn't really bug me. but what bugs me is like when I see older people like that lady, I don't know if I've ever been that mad in public in a long time, like ever. I was so mad for her. I just could not believe that someone just like powered through and just, I mean, literally knocked her in between the seats. Like she was butt up and her, I mean, almost like a downward dog position. They had knocked her in that seat and it was really awkward for her to get up. And the other seatmate passengers, the other passengers in her row were trying to help her. I'm trying to help her. Um, but yeah, Everybody on that plane was just not helping the situation, not helping the situation. Clearly, she felt entitled. She was snotty. You know, the point where it went really downhills where the other lady was like, I'm in a doctorate program. Oh, my gosh. Nobody cares. Just stop. Stop. Don't engage with stupid because stupid loves it. And stupid feeds off it. You do not have to. I always tell everybody, you do not have to attend every fight to which you are invited. You do not have to. Just let it, some people just need to show their backsides. Let them do it. But it just got, and I'm like, there's kids on this flight. I felt bad for the one dude who was just sitting there eating snacks. Did you see him? He was the only guy who was not bothering his soul on this flight. He's sitting there just eating his snacks and she turns around and starts at him. I was like, that poor man. He's eating his snacks. Probably eating them plain, whatever, the plain trail mix. Do they even offer it to the people with peanut allergies get upset? I don't know. The whole thing is just too much.
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That dude was my spirit animal. I'm the same way. If people are in a rush, just let them go. If you're in the plane and you're not in a rush to get off the plane, having three or four more people in front of you as you're herded off the plane through the jet bridge, you're not gaining. You're not going to get a special award. You're not gaining.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they're not going to be at the end of the thing. Like, you were the first stop. Here's a million dollars. You guys are losers because you didn't get off the plane first. No one's doing that. There's not those types of rewards.
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No, I'm not 20th in line. I'm 15th.
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I'm a better person. Put that on my tombstone first off the plane. But it just, yeah. And I don't like being in crowds where you're jostling like that. I don't. Oh, man, I can't stand it. So I will totally just chill. Let them let it let them go by and then do what I got to do. Right. And because I already have I pack light anyway. I already have all my stuff. I only ever do carry on. So it's like one one and I'm out. But there are a lot of nice people that they'll see you because if you don't go, then it's like the current of people just. And then you just, you know, you just sit there until the whole plane gets off. But every now and then there are people nice enough that are like, oh my gosh, go ahead and go. Like you're sitting here ready to go. I'm just not going to like fight with people to get off the plane because I don't have that much patience in life. So I like to reserve it. You know what I mean? For like the times that it would really would matter, right? Like picking up an elderly woman who gets knocked over in the aisle. That's, you know, things like that. But this, I see things like this and it makes me not want to fly. I already don't like it. but I don't know what I'm going to do on this cruise, guys. I don't even know. I was looking at the boat, the boat ship. I don't know. I literally, all everything I know about getting on boats is from lakes, fishing, canoes, and then having a power, little power boat, like in the Exumas and going, you know, driving around that. And I know how to, I know ties. I know how to navigate. I know how to read nautical maps because there was no way I was taking my family out in the open ocean without ever being able to do that. Cause insane. But, We're on a big boat in Cane. We're going to be in the fjords, which is basically like there's no ground. It's just you look around and it's water and rocks. That's it. Sheer cliffs that goats couldn't even get on. Like a goat couldn't even, like one of those weird ones couldn't even get up there.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's not a carnival cruise you're going on. No, no. I think you'll be okay. I don't know. I think you'll be all right.
SPEAKER 06 :
All I'm worried about like food poisoning and everybody having diarrhea and like... Oh, God.
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I guess those are valid concerns.
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Or, like, what if... Oh, my gosh, I don't know. What if the boat... What if there's a drunk captain? That happened. You guys remember that story? What if there's a drunk captain and they hit something and we capsize in a fjord and then a Loch Ness monster from Scotland eats us? I don't know.
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Before he capsizes, you just drink with him so that he's not drinking as much. I don't know.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So markets are at record highs, economists are more, blah, blah, blah. It's about tariffs. I'm just so tired of these economists that are freaking out. That's the headline right there. It's all you need to know. We talked about the Secret Service thing. Hundreds of them. Oh, this is a crazy story. OK, check this out. So this lady has received hundreds. I actually I think this is over hundreds at this point of Amazon packages that started showing up at her front porch. And it's so bad. She says it's over a year now. She says it's been hell. It's in San Jose, California. So what happened is somehow she started getting these large boxes filled with car seat covers made by this Chinese company sent to her doorstep. And I mean, they show up nonstop. And the mystery of it, apparently it has to do with a Chinese online seller that listed a false U.S. address because Amazon requires listing advertisers to have advertisers to have us addresses and apparently they gave hers and so now when these people have been sending returning them they're piling up in her garage the online seller put her address on all their return labels and they refuse to stop it and everybody's been stuck without refunds and i mean and they and amazon told her she could pay to send them back She's refused delivery on everything that she could, but they're so they're like piling up. She couldn't even get her handicapped mother that lives with her out of their car in their wheelchair to the door because they so many boxes they place in there. They'll get, you know, she might get 50 boxes delivered at one time at one part of the day. So she said that Amazon, all they offered was $100 gift balance. Like a gift card. That's it. Amazon. Amazon is notorious for being really crappy in certain respects. I got to say, like, this has nothing to do with Bezos. It has to do with the business structure, I think. You know, like, come on. So that's insane. Three in 10 pregnancies in England and in Wales and an abortion. The British are aborting their next generation and they're getting entire the whole nation's gone. The UK is gone. It is not the same. It never will be the same. Three in 10 pregnancies. They are literally aborting themselves into legend. That's what they're doing. How insane is this? They said it's a record 30, like really 30 percent of conceptions were legally aborted in 2022. That was up a year earlier from 26 and a half. And then in a year before that, it was only 20 percent. So it has been rapidly increasing. It's so I mean, it's sad. It's so incredibly sad. But they're they're literally wiping themselves off of the map. A robot performed surgery on its own for the first time, powered by chat GPT. Now, this is not like, you know, robotic procedures. Apparently, it was like an entire robotics. I don't know how I feel about that. What happens if you lose power or something? You know, I don't know. Is it our backup? But it performed a realistic surgery on its own. It removed a gallbladder, they said, with the expertise of a skilled human surgeon. And researchers said the robot was watched as it performed a lengthy phase of gallbladder removal on a lifelike patient. It was able to respond to and learn from voice commands from the team, like a novice surgeon working with a mentor. And they said the advancement has really moved them because they can execute specific surgical tasks. It understands procedures. Man, I know, right? Still, I'm not even getting a Roomba. Speaking of sad, did you guys see this? It's a Washington Post opinion piece. This is an actual headline. It's up on my Instagram page, too. The headline says, Donald Trump is not a clown. I should know. Real clowns bring joy to the world, not chaos to Washington. Cain.
SPEAKER 04 :
You have to say that again. What?
SPEAKER 06 :
They had apparently a clown write an actual editorial over at Washington Post.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, Donald Trump's not a clown? Yeah.
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And they're like, I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
He should know.
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Because real clowns bring joy. Real clowns also don't bitch in editorials in the Washington Post. Or do they? I don't know. Like... That's what he writes. He's on the board. I cannot believe they did this, but they went all the way to this guy named Tim Cunningham. He is the board president of Clowns Without Borders, a nonprofit that performs clown shows for communities facing hardship. And he writes, Donald Trump is not a clown. I should know. Real clowns bring joy to the world, not chaos to Washington. Who made him King Clown of Mountain?
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Thank you for editing.
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So this is... He wrote a whole editorial on this. He's mad because I guess they said that Trump was funny and... I don't know. He writes, quote, it sounds like somebody writing, by the way, not to interrupt myself. It sounds like someone writing a term paper and they're a college freshman. Allegations that President Trump is a clownish figure are not hard to come by. He writes, this is how he starts his piece. Political strategist James Carville referred to Trump's administration as a clown show. No, real clowns. None of this qualifies Trump for such a title. I am a clown and a board president of the nonprofit Clowns Without Borders.
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I'm here to set the record straight.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, and he does. By the way, it took him this long to get to the point. A whole paragraph. You're not a journalist either, apparently. He goes, I perform as a professional clown for 24 years. Clown, capital C, is a valuable and varied art form. I'm bored to death already. Acrobats, magician, get to the point. Vaudeville artists, shut up, get to the point. Oh my gosh. From stage clowns such as Bill. Shut up. Just get to the point. Clowns demand years, if not lifetimes of study. Shut up. And he goes, he talks about Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. You are no Charlie Chaplin, my dude. You are no Buster Keaton. You are a sad, fat ass dude who is bitching about being a clown in Washington Post. They wrote a whole editorial about this. Yes, I'm mad because I have to deal with this stuff and talk about it on my show. This is so stupid. Oh, my gosh. Kane. Clown is not an invention of the modern era. Several ancient indigenous cultures revere sacred clown figures. Know all this?
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I mean, imagine. For example. No, he didn't. Uh-huh. No, he didn't.
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The Sioux people celebrate the Hioka, an honorable community member who uses humor to shed light on societal problems.
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Can I say real quick? I don't think this guy's a clown.
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All clowns share the common values of humor.
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So far, I don't feel like I'm experiencing a clown right now. So far, what you've read.
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I mean, he sounds, excuse my Portuguese from earlier. He sounds like a bitter Betty. He just sounds so. Oh, my gosh. Like this. I've seen hundreds of Roya Hinga children dance with an ensemble of clowns while their homes in Myanmar smolder in the background. Like what in the world? I mean, if you're going to be a clown, be like funny. Let's find a better metaphor to despise and depose fascism. Okay, I literally thought I have seen people get offended over everything, right? I thought we were at our limit as a society as to what people can be offended about. Really thought we were at that limit. I thought we were there. No, says fate, we're not. And then it gives us this guy. The unfunniest clown I've ever seen in my life. The worst clown ever. Keep clown out of Trumpian comparisons. But you're here. Keep it out of politics. You're literally here politicizing it. What are you talking about? I cannot believe that they published this. Yeah, this is woke Pennywise. That's what this is. I actually am speechless.
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I wonder how many hit pieces they write that actually compliment the president for not being a clown. I mean, literally, this is a compliment to the president saying he's not a clown. They think this is a hit piece.
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You're not like this sad sack. Trump's not like this sad sack. I am so offended that they call Trump a clown. I mean, he's trying to stake a claim on Clown Mountain. I am offended on behalf of the clowns. It's like he's so excited he has something to get offended over. Because everybody has something to be offended over these days, right? Everybody's got that something. We need Nika Costa actually coming up for headlines. Nika Costa, everybody's got that something. We got to play her because that's exactly what this is. Everybody has their something, right? That they got to get offended about, at least in today's society. Everybody has something. This guy's like, I finally got it. You can almost hear him break his own ankles as he rushes to get to his computer to peter out this little editorial for WAPO. Oh, I'm offended. I finally got something to be offended about. It's like his milestone, right? It's like a girl getting her menstrual cycle. This guy finally found something that he can get offended about, and he's so excited. Oh, my gosh. It's a milestone, Cain. I cannot believe that I can believe that we're here. This is this is every now and then you see one of these marks that really affirm that you are in a living idiocracy. And this is another one right here for me. Right. This is another one, Kane. Oh, and then we get to talk about people fighting on planes coming up. You're going to really enjoy this because it has to do with yelling and people being mad on a plane. And basically any travel situation, it's just we're all bringing that to you. Love that journey for us. So that's where we're all going. We got a lot more actually to hit. What are you looking at this guy? Are you looking at the clown guy? It's so bad. Oh, my gosh. I can't. It's a real editorial. Someone actually was like at Washington Post goes, you know what we need? We need an editorial from a clown.
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After all, the natural disaster that occurred and continues to occur and unfold in Texas may have humbled them. That image you saw, I don't know if you woke up like I woke up. God is my witness. First image I saw this morning turned on MSNBC, and it was a photograph of that beautiful 13-year-old girl and her 11-year-old sister that were found clutching each other's hands, washed down the river, found dead.
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It was a good thing I was muted. Yes. What are you saying it like that for? Don't be saying it like that. It wasn't all that bad. I can't. It's taken everything I have to play that. I can't play that soundbite again, just so you know, because I will murder somebody. It was Gavin Newsom who is talking about the Texas floods like he actually is saying, well, did they humble Trump? Did the floods humble him? What is he talking about? And then did you hear him try to act like he's upset? And then, oh my gosh, Katie barred the door. Lord put a hand over my mouth because, oh my gosh, this guy. This guy, Kane. Well, you know, I mean, what a horrible person, human, actor. Just because you are in California and you're the mayor, or sorry, the governor of California, and you know Los Angeles well, you were the mayor of San Francisco, it doesn't mean that you should probably, that you should attempt... acting doesn't mean you should do that but that was gavin newsom saying well you know um it's just maybe they humbled him in the same way that the fires humbled you i mean you live by an ocean and you didn't have water to put out the fires in that same way is that similar similar to that i'm curious Or when they had, oh, I mean, give a disaster. Give us a natural disaster that they've had recently. Were you humbled, Gavin Newsom? What a horrible person to say something like that. When your first reaction to something is to try to score political points in the manner that he is, I just find that so ghoulish, so gruesome. Oh, welcome to the program. Dana Lashley with you. We're at the top of this first hour. A few things to get through today, including the continued reaction to all of this and this insistence by the left to try to continue politicizing it, although they're having a lot of difficulty because you have meteorologists that were saying, yeah, that's really not accurate. I mean, they've been saying this. They've had not just meteorologists, the Firefighters Association, because we had the story yesterday of the fire chief in Austin. So a lot of stuff to hit. Uh, and the, I mean the fatality still, it's just, it's a horrific, it's a horrific scene. And if you had had Trump or any kind of Republican go forward and say something to the effect of what Gavin Newsom said, there would be, I mean, they would be apoplectic over that. They absolutely would be. So also, uh, one of the other things that we're looking at is the, uh, news from about secret service too, because this is, uh, uh, And then we got some Hamas stuff. But Secret Service, they have, and I had this in your newsletter if you get it last night, if you subscribe over to Substack chapter and verse, the story of Secret Service agents. Because can you believe, can I pause real quick? We are almost a year away from this. Almost a year away from the anniversary, our one-year observance, how do I say it? One-year observance of the attempted assassination of POTUS. And I will never forget when we were coming back, we were traveling internationally and we had a layover in Nassau and really sketchy in terms of like when you're on the plane and you're trying to get your cell phone service back after you have it on airplane mode, it takes a little bit. So I'm like trying to get, you know, it still wasn't coming through. By the time I got outside the airport, my phone was just blowing up. And I had to get a hold of Kane. And I'm like, what in the world is going on? I just saw that POTUS was shot. Oh, my gosh. It's so weird being in a foreign country, hearing that the president of the United States, the president of your nation, someone shot him and you have no idea as to his condition, etc. So I just texted Junior because I've known Don Junior for years. And I texted him. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I'm like, I'm praying everything is OK. What's you know, can you can you say anything? And he had said, you know, he's okay at Nick Desir. And he said, this could have been so much worse. And he's like, I'm just astounded. He was still processing everything. I mean, it's his dad. And so that was just, that was a really weird feeling. Because there is a sense of vulnerability that you have that is very interesting when you're traveling and something like this happens. I think everybody knows where they were when that went down. But to that point, the Secret Service and the investigation into this, because now they have some of these agents that have been, well, they've been fired. And the they were all the one they were six balls suspended technically without payer benefits. And it sounds like you're fired to me, honestly, suspended without payer benefits. And these were six agents and they were the ones who were tasked with protecting POTUS because you all remember they didn't they hadn't secured the rooftop that this dude and I don't want to say his name that he had climbed on. And I just don't even know how that happens. That is such a rookie move. That is not a move of someone who is Secret Service for the president of the United States. That is such a rookie move. People who aren't even into security know that that's one of the things that you need to do. It's crazy. And so they no pay, no benefits. They were suspended. They're facing obviously continued scrutiny from all of this. The Secret Service deputy director told the press that the penalty ranged from 10 to 42 days of leave without pay or benefits. They were placed into restricted duty or roles with less operational responsibility upon their return. I mean, why does it take a year to figure this stuff out? Why do we not know hardly anything still about this dude who climbed up on top of the roof and opened fire on POTUS? And that I mean. This is what you don't want to happen. You do not want the incompetency of your agencies, especially agencies that are tasked with protecting the president of the United States, to be so incompetent and so beyond the realm of proficiency that people or smart people, average everyday people who are not stupid, are scratching their heads going, this was so bad, it seems like it was on purpose. You do not want your incompetency to rise to the level of, wow, was this on purpose? And that's exactly what Secret Service did. I mean, there are still so many unanswered questions. And the people that get mad at the average, ordinary, everyday people for asking these questions and making this point, you cannot blame these people after what they saw. The guy was literally on a rooftop right across from POTUS. This was one of the most glaring, I can't even believe this. There was a water tower there that apparently wasn't secure. Tree tops. I mean, my gosh, that's one of the first things that you do. You secure the high ground. Wherever your principal is, you secure that 360 around them. Ground, roofs, whatever it is. So it was so incompetent. And the response with all the video that everybody saw after was so chaotic. Yeah, you absolutely scratch your head and go, wow, was this on purpose? This seems pretty damn wild. The deputy director at Secret Service said that they're not going to fire their way out of this. They're going to focus on the root cause and fix deficiencies that put us in this situation. You're an agent. You get on site. And your first thing, your first question is, what about that giant rooftop that's right across the stage? Maybe we should secure that. What about that giant-ass water tower that's over there in the field? Maybe we should secure that and make sure that nobody's climbing up there on either of these things. I mean, that just seems, that's an obvious. How bad are your deficiencies that it's affecting that sort of reasoning? You have every right to be angry about this and you have every right to demand questions. I honestly think that we should still be livid over it. I don't know why this has not been a topic of discussion every single day. This wasn't just an operational failure. This was an embarrassment to the entire United States government apparatus. I don't care if you didn't vote for the guy. At some point, you have to realize that one of the reasons we enjoy the freedoms that we enjoy in this republic is because we all observe basic niceties in this free society. And that is we all come together and we all elect someone into the into the White House. We all elect somebody. It wasn't a stolen election. It was a free and fair election. And everybody voted and everybody made their choice. And if your choice didn't win, well, them's the stake. Sometimes that happens. But it doesn't give you leave to gleefully cheer the destruction of the republic by sanctioning with silence or jubilation the attempted assassination of a president. And this rhetoric that we're getting from the left has got to stop. Weren't they having like trainings where they're like, well, you know, and sometimes you may have to get hurt. Good night, gravy seals. bunch of just oh man i need to be nice with what i say i just don't have i i just that's just one of the stupidest things i think i've ever seen well maybe we're just gonna have to get hurt maybe you should just stop and try to come up with better policies to win people instead of the threat of violence all the damn time you absolute savages that's just i don't know a suggestion here's why you should still be mad we have 200 it'll next year will be 250 years The birthday of the United States of America, one of the craziest experiments in liberty ever undertaken. It is an amalgamation of all of the best ideas of previous societies distilled down into one success story. All the best parts of the Greeks, all the best parts of the Romans try to cut away the fat. Just keep the just keep the meat. And it is a collection of all of that all put together a republic, not under a monarch, but where people are fairly represented. And the strength of it is the consistency and application of its principles and its laws. And when we start disregarding those things because we're mad, the left is mad, they didn't get their choice. When they start disregarding these basic civilities of a polite, free society, you threaten to disrupt that entire free society. And I'm going to tell these people something. They might think it's big and bad to go to Hot Topic and get all black clothes and then take their trash cans into the street and do all of this other stuff. But I guarantee you, it will not be terrifying. Until you tick off the people who want to be left alone, who appreciate the society. And when you back them in a corner and you give them no other option but violence, these people, it's not that they're not violent. It's not that they're harmless. It's that they choose to genuinely be peaceful. Do not tempt them. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So markets are at record highs. Economists are more, blah, blah, blah. It's about tariffs. I'm just so tired of these economists that are freaking out. That's the headline right there. That's all you need to know. We talked about the Secret Service thing. Hundreds of, oh, this is a crazy story. Okay, check this out. So this lady has received hundreds. I actually, I think this is over hundreds at this point of Amazon packages that started showing up at her front porch. And it's so bad. She says it's over a year now. She says it's been hell. It's in San Jose, California. So what happened is somehow she started getting these large boxes filled with car seat covers made by this Chinese company sent to her doorstep. And I mean, they show up nonstop. And the mystery of it, apparently it has to do with a Chinese online seller that listed a false U.S. address because Amazon requires listing advertisers to have advertisers to have us addresses and apparently they gave hers and so now when these people have been sending returning them they're piling up in her garage the online seller put her address on all their return labels and they refused to stop it and everybody's been stuck without refunds and i mean and they and amazon told her she could pay to send them back She's refused delivery on everything that she could, but they're so they're like piling up. She couldn't even get her handicapped mother that lives with her out of their car in their wheelchair to the door because they so many boxes they place in there. They'll get, you know, she might get 50 boxes delivered at one time at one part of the day. So she said that Amazon, all they offered was $100 gift balance. Like a gift card. That's it. Amazon. Amazon is notorious for being really crappy in certain respects. I got to say, like, this has nothing to do with Bezos. It has to do with the business structure, I think. You know, like, come on. So that's insane. Three in 10 pregnancies in England and in Wales and an abortion. The British are aborting their next generation and they're getting entire the whole nation's gone. The UK is gone. It is not the same. It never will be the same. Three in 10 pregnancies. They are literally aborting themselves into legend. That's what they're doing. How insane is this? They said it's a record 30, like really 30 percent of conceptions were legally aborted in 2022. That was up a year earlier from 26 and a half. And then in a year before that, it was only 20 percent. So it has been rapidly increasing. It's so I mean, it's sad. It's so incredibly sad. But they're they're literally wiping themselves off of the map. A robot performed surgery on its own for the first time, powered by chat GPT. Now, this is not like, you know, robotic procedures. Apparently, it was like an entire robotics. I don't know how I feel about that. What happens if you lose power or something? You know, I don't know. Is it our backup? But it performed a realistic surgery on its own. It removed a gallbladder, they said, with the expertise of a skilled human surgeon. And researchers said the robot was watched as it performed a lengthy phase of gallbladder removal on a lifelike patient. It was able to respond to and learn from voice commands from the team, like a novice surgeon working with a mentor. And they said the advancement has really moved them because they can execute specific surgical tasks. It understands procedures. Man, I know, right? Still, I'm not even getting a Roomba. We have a lot more on the way. Stick with us. More in store next. We all know how the world has become increasingly divided politically, socially, economically. But many of these divisions stem from those who promote policies and ideologies that really misunderstand how money markets and policy actually work. Wouldn't it be great if there was an investment app that was designed by people who understand a macro perspective and how global events affect your finances? Now you can have the power in the palm of your hand with Alio Capital app powered by Altitude AI, which identifies shifts in inflation, interest rates, and global risk, and then it adapts portfolios in real time. Alio is designed for hands-on or hands-off investors, macro investing for people who want to understand the big picture. Download their app in the App Store or at Google Play or text my name, Dana, D-A-N-A, to 511-511. That's A-L-L-I-O, capital. Text my name, Dana, to 511-511 today. Investing involves risks, including the potential loss of principal. And past performance does not guarantee results. So you should see terms and conditions. And there may also be text fees that apply.
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I testified in front of many, many congressional committees in the House and the Senate over the years. And I continue to explain exactly what we did during this process, why we tried to make sure we stayed true to our intelligence responsibilities and that we were not going to do anything at all to try to interfere in that election. And again, it was it was a challenging time, but also one, I think, that the people who actually work this both in terms of trying to collect intelligence prior to the election and then the ones who put together the intelligence assessment, they really, I think, showed the best of what the intelligence community and what CIA is made up. So, again, I am clueless about what it is exactly that they may be investigating me for.
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Oh, you have no idea. He has no idea. He just has no idea, guys. He has no idea. He's going to, I mean, he's been whining. He was whining at the start of the year because he lost his security clearance. I'm just, I'm done with this guy. This guy has lied under oath. He has misled. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. And we were at the bottom of this first hour. And I mean, yes, he absolutely, he perjured himself. Of course he perjured himself. I mean, it's a criminal investigation that's been a long time coming just because it's under this administration that guilt by association is an invalid expression of legitimate dissent. No, he's being investigated because he said one thing in a sworn testimony to federal investigators, and then he said something else in written actual orders in his own hand that he sent to his surrogates or his underlings in that intelligence community assessment that was commissioned. Remember, Russia interfered in the election to help Trump democrats are the original election deniers they have denied the election since any time a republican wins i will never forget george w bush and the hanging chads i was in school i was in i think ninth grade and i wasn't no not ninth grade was in ninth grade no no no i was in high school and uh college. I'm trying to remember. I can't remember. All I do know is I wanted to go as a hanging Chad for Halloween one year just as a joke. Because it was so... I mean, it was even a skit on SNL. That's how insane it was. They were not content with accepting the results then. They weren't content with accepting the 2016 results. And they haven't been content with accepting the last election's results either. I mean, it was Brennan who... I mean, this review... I'm going to pull this up. This was... Originally, it was over at New York Post. I mean... He insisted, he absolutely insisted on the inclusion of that completely bunk steel dossier that the FBI could not even validate. And it was even over the objections of the CIA's two most senior, most experts with regards to Russia. They said their quote was, it does not meet even the most basic tradecraft standards, end quote. Seems like it's a little bit of a problem, doesn't it? When you have your you have senior officials within the CIA that are blowing the whistle. This is why there are some really good people within these agencies. But as a whole, it goes from the top down and the leadership has been atrocious. And then, of course, he said that he was one of the 51 intelligence officials that signed this big theatrical letter saying, oh, no, that's a laptop that Hunter bites Russian disinformation. Did anyone stop and ever think about what that entails? By arguing that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. Did anybody ever stop and think about what that entails? That means that they would have had all the way back then. Did they drug Hunter Biden, make him do all this stuff and make him film all these things and compromise himself in so many different ways? With drugs and prostitutes and kickbacks from foreign governments? Because that sounds like the Bidens. That's just regular Biden behavior. I this they said that they're still in the fact finding phase of this investigation, but I don't know how you don't have him. I know. I don't know how he gets out of it. I mean, it's pretty obvious. He was warned in an email. It was the deputy director for analysis, David Cohen, the then CIA deputy director. He sent Brennan an email and he was saying, look, you are risking the credibility of this entire assessment. on the whole Russian involvement in 2016 by insisting that this dossier be included. He was warned by everybody, not just within the CIA, but even the FBI. He was warned about including, they're like, this is just nothing but discredited garbage. There are YouTube comments sections that have more validity than what is in this dossier. And Brennan wrote in a response, quote, My bottom line is that I believe the information warrants inclusion in the report. And then when he was confronted by specifics, he I mean, he could not get he couldn't get what he was writing to people straight with what he was saying in these testimonies and the testimony that was given to federal investigators. He just couldn't. He wouldn't do it. And, I mean, they were warning him about this. He was on a political bent. He wanted political vengeance. And he, I mean, unfortunately, damaged the credibility of the entire intelligence apparatus by doing this. And Comey also insisted that they include this thing. Just a reminder, the dossier was so... The credibility of the dossier was in such question that the FBI wanted nothing to do with it. They wanted nothing to do with Christopher Steele. Remember, these were the same people within the Obama-Biden organization that were trying to go after Carter Page. And you remember this whole story. It's one of the most unbelievable stories ever. they were so bent politically on getting trump and they thought carter page might be the way to do it that the fbi was trying to ensnare him and the cia actually had to get involved you want to talk about blowing people's covers remember valerie plain was a glorified pencil pusher and there was someone within the bush administration who was accused of writing about her or mentioning her in a washington post piece And they acted like the entire security of the nationals of the United States was affected negatively because someone name checked this glorified fame chasing pencil pusher. Right. She was married to Joe Wilson. He was one of the guys who was involved in what was that the uranium and Africa and all this stuff under the Bush administration. Long story short, though, you guys remember or maybe you don't. The weeping and gnashing of teeth. I went on air in 2008, the week that all of this stuff was exploding. Actually, it was right before the election. And they were really using this as a way to get the previous administration and to destabilize and to really kind of kneecap John McCain because he was running with Sarah Palin at the time. And I will never forget the hysteria surrounding that. They literally act like we sold nuclear secrets because Valerie Plame, a glorified pencil pusher, was name checked. And then after that, she did this Vanity Fair cover piece where Annie Leibovitz took her and Joe Wilson's photos. And it's like, well, if you were concerned about your safety or security with regards to your cover, you kind of blew that even more, did you not? But they acted like, oh, my gosh, you upended this whole thing. You name checked. OK, so knowing all of this, my point being. Wouldn't going after Carter Page in the manner that the FBI was going, is that not completely blowing someone's cover, particularly when the CIA had to get involved? And they said, no, no, no, he is not. Stop this. He is not somebody who is compromised by Russia. He is literally our asset against Russia. You idiots. How is that not blowing somebody's cover? So, no, they John Brennan absolutely forced the Steele dossier into this intelligent community assessment. And it would not have made it there without it. He lied. He pulled teeth. He did whatever he had to do. So that's just yes. On just that count alone, he is deserving of investigation because he's weaponizing the very systems that were designed to keep the populace safe. He weaponized them to go after political opponents. John Brennan is responsible for trying to reshape the intelligence community into something that would be more recognizable in Venezuela or Cuba. I just don't know what I'm under investigation for. The balls to say something like that. Am I right? Oh, my gosh. I just don't know what I'm being investigated for. It's such a so confusing. So incredibly confusing. No, there's a lot. All of this hit at the exact same time. I do think, I mean, it is a very legitimate thing to question when you look at the Secret Service issue, when you look at these intelligence agencies and the push to include a discredited piece of garbage into this intelligence assessment system. as it pertained to 2016 and POTUS, when you look at all of these things, you have to wonder, is there a design in place to make people question every single institution that kind of sets the United States apart? I mean, it's like, you know, basically declaring a civil war without firing a single shot and you just get people to turn on each other. I mean, that's a very, it's very Sun Tzu. It's very, you know, it's a very brilliant tactic. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I don't know. What do you think, Kane? You're the tinfoil guy.
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Go ahead, tinfoil us all. I don't think I can do it.
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I don't think I can tinfoil it. Do you think that there are people within the government that would love to see the faith of the Americans completely shaken to its core and lose trust in all of these government institutions and thereby lose trust in the functioning republic and therefore crack the very foundation and destroy the republic?
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Especially when republicans are in charge. Yes, I do believe that.
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Just saying. It seems, you know, very plausible. I just don't know what I'm on an investigation for. It's so shocking to me. The rest of us know. How does he not know? We all know. Good night. We have more Democrats, speaking of civil wars, they're in their own little civil war right now of their own doing. I've noticed, and I've even noticed this on conservative outfits. where it's almost like Democrats that are hesitant to address the Mamdani situation, that they're somehow sympathetic figures. Like Chuck Schumer is a sympathetic figure. We're going to get into this coming up because he was asked about whether or not he backed Mamdani. And you have to remember. You know, Cuomo, he still may run as an independent and they like him. That was their golden boy. And then you got Eric Adams. So I don't know. They and they're hesitant to embrace him. And all these people are like, oh, the Democrats, what are they going to do? They created this. This is Frankenstein's monster. It's just the 2.0 version. They created this whole thing because they had these agitators that they used as ways to. ratchet up momentum ahead of voting. They wanted them as get out the vote tools. We're going to talk about this some more coming up. The folks over at ByrnaGun, B-Y-R-N-A, ByrnaGun, it's always good to have a diversified weapons array. I mean, I will always tell people to carry Learn how to use a firearm. Go get trained. And if you have to get your concealed carry, if your state requires it, then get it. But I also realize, too, that there are instances where you might be disarmed because of gun-free zones or private property restrictions or other municipal restrictions. And so instead of being left to the fates of criminals, then maybe just be more proactive with your protection. You still have options. And this is where Berna comes in. They have all different kinds, but I think for this specifically, you should check out the Berna SD or the Berna CL. CL is the newest. It stands for compact launcher. It's smaller than the Berna SD by 38% reduction in size. But you also have that legal flexibility. It's legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks or permits. They can ship it right to your door. There's no waiting periods. And like I said, it doesn't care about all those restrictions. This is a great idea too. As college kids think about going back to school, if they're too young to carry a handgun, but they're living on their own, They want to make sure that they have something that can deter threats and give them you know, some increase their chances of survival if, heaven forbid, they're facing a serious criminality against them. It's an effective deterrent. You need to check it out. It's B-Y-R-N-A, Burna.com slash Dana. The SD, which is their most popular pistol, or the CL, and again, it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable, deter threats from up to 50 feet away. Burna.com slash Dana. The CL is the newest one, compact launcher. B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 17 :
You can't just float your way out of it. It knocks everything over. Everybody knows you pick up a bucket of water, you know how heavy it is. And you get a lot of water going that fast. So... What are we going to do about it is the ancient question, and it would be to stop burning fossil fuels. When you're in a hole, stop digging, and so on. But the fossil fuel industry has been very successful in getting organizations like the U.S. Congress to think that it's really not happening.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, in the first six months of the Trump administration, we've seen an end to some of the federal efforts on not just fossil fuel, but other efforts that had been in place government wide to promote alternative energy.
SPEAKER 18 :
The room tone on that is so loud. Like, did they have like a vacuum going in the background? Good night. Welcome back. There was Bill Nye on CNN and apparently they had like their they were cleaning out their offices and that happened. It sounded like a jet engine in the back. Like, what is happening with your studio that you have that kind of sound in the background? He's not a scientist. He worked as, like, a low-level dude at Boeing, and then he started being a comedian. And now he cosplays. Like, this is one of the earliest forms of appropriation. He literally appropriated the scientific identity and presents himself as some kind of scientific genius. And then he tried to parlay that into political influence. I mean, it's just really lame. I don't like him because he lied, number one. I don't like people who lie, like Bill Nye, the fake science brat does. Yeah, he's a trans scientist. But he, I mean, he's, why do they have him on? Why do they have him on? Because he's literally a fake scientist. He's not an academic scientist. He went into mechanical engineering and he was a low-level guy. at Boeing. And it matters that he's not a scientist because he's always brought on television to talk about scientific issues every single time. And he always wears, he dresses up in his little lab coat, but he's literally never done any kind of research or anything that's ever contributed to the scientific community at all whatsoever. I mean, but he acts like this self-styled expert on all of this. He has no idea what the hell he's talking about. He's just making it up. I mean, he didn't get a PhD in science and natural sciences or anything else like that. He didn't do any of that. I mean, there are people out there that have science degrees that don't say, oh, I'm a scientist. They don't do that. But I think it's really bad when they bring him on like he's some kind of expert, like he has some sort of, I don't know, research background that, you know, he's a legit scientist and he's really created. I don't know. But he all of these people platform and they they pretend that he does. He has honorary PhDs. I'll never forget when I was on CNN one time. And I like Anderson Cooper. I've always gotten along with him. But I was talking about him. Martin Luther King Jr.' 's niece and I said she had gotten a doctorate and Anderson Cooper was like well it's an honorary doctorate the left always likes to go well these are honorary doctorates if it's someone on the on the right but he has himself like what a handful of honorary doctorates that he kind of like tries to parlay into actual doctorates degrees there was somebody that said oh yeah he's got six doctorates they're all honorary degrees you absolute moron what is happening no So none of this, it doesn't mean anything. He's fake. He's fake. And by the way, he got those little honorary degrees because he was a speaker. And that's like a courtesy that a lot of people give you. You get an honorary doctorate because you came here and you spoke at a commencement thing. He has really like milked this for all it can. I don't even know how this got started, but it did. We have more in store as we roll towards second hour. Stick with us. Let's be honest, big pharma profited off of your fear while silencing your voice. They controlled the narrative, blocked access to real treatments, and then told you what you could and could not take, all to protect their bottom line. Medicines like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and bendazole were all labeled dangerous and dismissed, even though millions found relief and recovery from them. This Independence Day, All Family Pharmacy is standing up for your freedom with their biggest sale of the year. You get buy one, get one free on these critical medications with a doctor's prescription included, shipped fast and direct to your door. No corporate gatekeepers, no big pharma middlemen, no bureaucratic roadblocks. At All Family Pharmacy, all medications are made from 100% domestically sourced materials, ensuring the highest quality and safety standards you can trust. Because medical freedom is American freedom. But this offer won't last. It ends July 13th. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for buy one, get one free. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Take back your power and make America healthy again.
SPEAKER 21 :
So anyway, I just wanted to jump on because my heart is truly heavy for all of these families. The sad part is I think that my heart is going to carry a level of weight that will continue to weigh me down as we have to continue to do our best to survive an administration that literally is against us. An administration that is doing everything in my mind to hurt us and not help us. And it feels like we're fending for ourselves.
SPEAKER 18 :
Wow. It's all about you. And then she actually in the caption of this that she posted on Instagram said, oh, thank you guys for complimenting my new Bob. Girl, you didn't get your haircut. You just had them extensions out. Come on. We all know that we're not stupid. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. I love all these lawmakers that are like, I'm just going to hold this camera in front of my face and I'm going to look around like and I just, you know, it's so on my heart and it's all about me, me, me, me. She had like two words for the actual victims and everything else is about her. How do you how do people live like that? Oh, my gosh. There's without politics. I would not be friends with that broad. There's just you know, you meet people and you're like, I don't like you. I just I'm never going to like you. I'll be nice to you, but I'm never going to like you. My husband gets sometimes like, why are you like this? Just because I'm never wrong about somebody's character, number one. And number two, if I don't like somebody, I just don't want to be around them. Really simple. And life is too short for me to pretend otherwise. I'll be civil, but I just, why? Why suffer in silence? Why? Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second hour here. You know, it's one of my, some of my advice for living a long and healthy life, King. You don't have to suffer fools if you don't have to. Like, don't. You know what I mean? Amen. This is, I think, also why I'm really bad at small talk stuff. Because if I don't want to do it, I just walk away. I don't know. Steve said, I thought, no. We'll talk about that later. So she's being accused of basically bragging about herself in this video. She did this on Instagram. And then she was pointing out her new haircut. I don't know. I think is this the most that she's actually said about the victims, the flood victims? Yeah, she literally put on Instagram, quote, I just wanted to jump on for a sec to discuss the Texas flash floods and the trashy bill and moving forward. And my staff said, y'all are commenting about my Bob. Thank you for some guy for orchestrating the look. He just took out your extensions. Stop. I don't know, man. So she made it like literally it was like all about her hair. It's all about me. I think that's just her. That's just her. Someone said that some people at least had some brains in the comments. They were like, this lady is talking about... She's like, why is this lady talking about people's hair? Or talking about her hair? People have drowned. Heaven help us. I mean, I agree. That's accurate. That is accurate. We... If you want to go make it in Hollywood, go to Hollywood. But don't bring that energy to politics, please. Don't bring that energy to policy. D.C. is where all the people who were too ugly for Hollywood go to try to become famous. Hashtag facts. I'll say it if nobody else will. It's true. They do it. And then they're like, well, if I couldn't make it in Hollywood, maybe I can just make it here. And then I'll be like a rebel. No. Everybody. There's so many people that have had the same idea. So many people. But she also had said, this is Audio Sunbite 10. Golly, I can't play all of this audio from her because we'll die. It will literally bore us to the point where our hearts will find no reason to continue beating. Audio Sunbite 10, please.
SPEAKER 21 :
The violence doesn't come from Democrats, just to be clear. I mean, obviously anyone can be a criminal, but it is MAGA. It's specifically MAGA faction. Like, I don't think traditional Republicans are getting engaged in all of this, but like. even when we look at and they don't talk about the assassination attempts anymore that took place with Donald Trump. But these were Trump supporters, right? Based on what evidence? As well as this most recent situation, they tried to flip it and say, oh, the leftists.
SPEAKER 18 :
Based on what evidence?
SPEAKER 21 :
This doesn't even make sense, right? But it's only like MAGA that does this.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, that's somebody who's such a supporter of POTUS is going to try to murk him. That makes all the sense in the world. I don't know. She's one of those individuals who's never going to admit about the bad parts of her ideology and what they've been promoting. It's stunning, the lack of awareness and the lack of empathy and sympathy from this woman. I had this piece. Let me find this piece. Because it was an Axios piece and it was talking about... How Democrats, how their followers, when they go back for like their town halls. Yeah, here it is. Democrats are told to get shot for the anti-Trump resistance. This is an actual piece at Axios. Heaven help us all. And they get into it by saying, I'm going to make sure you guys have this in Slack. They get into it by saying, oh, there's growing anger amongst the base with regard to Democrats. And it's morphed into a disregard for these American institutions and political traditions, even the rule of law, et cetera, et cetera. And they said that people are wanting us to do something. They want more. And they've been angry at town halls over it. And some of them have suggested is that we have to be willing to get shot when visiting ICE facilities or federal agencies. I think they would love that. How heinous is it to say that? But that's, I mean, that's kind of what they're going for. The other thing, too, and this is the, that's the headline for the piece that Juan's showing you on the simulcast on Channel 347 Direct TV, the chats at Rumble. They, some Democrats said, well, you know, our discussions haven't really gone that far with everybody. Look, the reaction to January 6th, what did we heard from the left that it was an insurrection? Oh, my gosh, you attack the police. And then they try to present themselves as being like the best lovers of the blue. They are the biggest fans of the blue. And now look, now they're attacking ICE agents, like actually attacking, trying to dox them, trying to harm their families, trying to run them down. I was told that that was an insurrection. So that's I think it should be treated as such. That's an insurrection. There hasn't been that even remotely similar treatment, whether in the press or before a court of law, not even remotely. But I was told over and over again that that's it was that's an insurrection. It's all situational. It's it's in this idea of getting angry at Border Patrol agents for what? For enforcing the law that, by the way, Democrats also have been privy to. If Democrats wanted to change immigration law, they would have. Hell, they could have changed immigration law when they had a supermajority for the first part of Barack Obama's first term before a slew of special elections. They had a legitimate supermajority. They could have crushed through everything and Republicans would have been powerless to stop it. It was in 2008. It was the first part of Barack Obama's first term. Until they had, I think, I can't remember, but it was a handful of special elections that changed it. Democrats still had a majority, but it was no longer a super majority. But they didn't do anything for that period. I mean, they had a good couple of months where they did not do a single damn thing. And if they really wanted it, they would have been able to push through all kinds of amnesty. They could have actually gotten a hell of a lot more in Obamacare. It's just that they're lazy. They didn't want to have to go, oh, my gosh, we have to immediately do the work. They wanted to bask in the glow of their winning and party a little bit longer. And so... This this basic enforcement of the law. Again, that's what it is. The most basic enforcement of laws that they helped write and pass. And approved of, by the way, up until. What, 10 years ago, Kane? When did they start being like, no, we want everyone coming across the border? Because at one point they did want some kind of. I don't know how to say it. Some kind of regulation. They wanted some sort of immigration controls. But when did it go? When did it really go from that to like free for all?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I think during this past Biden's administration, but it happened before Trump's first term. If those last two years leading up to Trump's first term, it was clearly Obama was touting these numbers of deportation, but they were only high because they were allowing so many in.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, even when he was, even Barack Obama's first term and even the subsequent one, there were still, even though it was horrible and it was leading up to this point, that's where the kids in cages came from. Because they realized, oh my gosh, we're going to have to make sure these kids aren't being trafficked. And they separated them out. Whereas Biden's like, we don't even want to do that. So I think a lot of things contributed to it. But yeah, that point where it just completely went wrong. just down that so that's what i'm saying there can you imagine if they actually enforce the law as strongly as they could because this is just basic enforcement just that's all it is no democrats are having a huge problem and they're having a huge problem also this is indicative of audio soundbite 13 is chuck schumer going to endorse the democrat run nominee for mayor mom danny listen
SPEAKER 13 :
It's been about a month since the New York City mayoral primary. You have yet to endorse the Democratic nominee. What is holding you back and what will it take for you to get to that point?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'll be meeting with him soon. Yes. The bottom line is Democrats are united. We are fighting the high costs that American people pay. We are fighting the health care cuts Republicans are making. We are fighting the horrible bill that they just passed. Democrats are united, and we have been far more united, frankly, than the Republicans.
SPEAKER 07 :
he can't say he can't say he says he's lost the ability to shape the future of his own party okay what are you gonna say how can they claim unity when clearly he won't even touch the subject of what's happening in the mayor race in new york
SPEAKER 18 :
He believes there might be a chance that Mamdani doesn't win. And he doesn't want to be on the outs in his own city with whoever that is. So he has no idea what to do. Yes, it's cowardice, but it's also... He lost the ability to shape how the party goes forward. By the way, where the hell is Nancy Pelosi? You heard all about her. Where is she at?
SPEAKER 07 :
So it's less Democrats being united and more of them just being loyal to their Borg mentality.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, they're terrified because... And it's not even about what gets me is... Let's not mistake it. It's not even about party unity for the sake of party health. I actually do believe James Carville is all about party unity for the party's health. These people, they're not acting. They're not motivated that way. They're motivated by power adjacency and access. That's what they're motivated by. That's what they don't want to jeopardize. It has nothing to do with party unity for them. And that's evident by how eagerly they use these people as agitators in days leading up to elections to get out the vote. And now they've taken over the party and they have no idea what to do. Our partners that help bring you the program, the folks over at Super Beat, Super Bering is the product. It was Super Bering. This is about healthy blood sugar levels and metabolism you can invest in this support for less than a dollar a day when you buy super brewing at sam's club from the same people who do the super beats heart shoes and it's doctor formulated plant-based unique form of berberine and italian olive fruit extract that gives you additional antioxidant cardiovascular support this isn't just any old berberine this has been clinically studied to deliver nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine So it's fewer pills to swallow, one highly concentrated capsule you take a day, once a day, and no GI distress because they include grapeseed extract for greater tolerability. You can find both the new Super Boreen and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Shoes at Sam's Club. Restock your heart health support with Super Beats Heart Shoes and expand your routine with Super Boreen for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support. Start today and get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 18 :
This is significant. Amazon suffered a huge Prime Day sales plunge as people have been hanging onto their cash amid recession fears. And they even had like the Prime Day like surprise makeover. But shoppers still were not spending. Momentum Commerce, which is a big shopping firm, online shopping firm, they measure this stuff, reported a 41% plunge in Amazon sales compared to the first day of last year's event. And that comes as after even they extended their usual two-day pricing, two-day price cutting into a four-day thing. And they said that that means that, you know, clearly people are really worried about like recession, inflation, all of that. And they said that for Amazon's biggest sellers, the calculus didn't pay off. It did not pay off. That's pretty. You knew it was going to be like that. I mean, it's not really a surprise. at that point. But condo prices are making a record slide. The crisis has hit a breaking point. This has been a big discussion. I don't know. I'm not a fan of condos, like high-rises by beaches, just because, you know, you think of hurricanes and stuff, right? I'm like... Condo prices around the country are plummeting. Some have seen values sink by a staggering one-third in just a year. And they said that the average sale price fell over 2% year over year. So the average is like $354,000 now. So it's one of the second largest drops in all records dating back to 2012. And they said the steeper drop occurred in April of 23 after post-pandemic peak. And Of course, Kane is saying that Powell, he could make the cut if he wanted. He could do the correction if he really wanted to do it, if he wanted to drop rates. You could do it. We'll see. But they said seven of the top ten metro areas with the largest price declines were in Florida. Two of them in Texas. So that's pretty. Well, and a lot of that, too, when you are in zones that deal with hurricanes, it's going to be more expensive to insure and all this other stuff. So let's see. A county shut down a 15-year-old's bait stand on a family farm. And he's being threatened with daily fines. This is so asinine. This is in Wisconsin, Washburn County, Wisconsin. A 15-year-old had a bait stand stocked with worms, sodas, and candy. And the government, they're threatening him now. They're like, oh, he's zoning, et cetera. They sent him a cease and desist. They're threatening with daily fines, all of this stuff. I mean, it's a tiny little stand. It's like, that's it. This is so stupid. This is, you know what? Entrepreneurs have such a hard time now, even getting started because of stuff like this. We have more in store. Stick with us. Relief Factor is the partner. They help people manage everyday aches and pains, especially if you don't want to be hung up on prescription medication so this can be very beneficial for you to have the relief from relief factor and they make it super easy for instance the ingredients that they use turmeric omega-3 fatty acids resveratrol is all designed to target inflammation and support joint health and it'll help you get back to your daily activities without constant discomfort if you deal with inflammation if you deal you know like you know like for instance my husband he had um I had an old sports injury and he was able, you know, he's able to manage all of that with Relief Factor and be able to lift without, you know, worrying about anything. It's 100% drug-free, all developed to support your body's natural healing process. So don't stay stuck living with pain. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95, less than a dollar a day. And you can support a veteran-owned company and see the difference for yourself. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF.
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SPEAKER 18 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Did you guys hear Pam Bondi say just earlier this week that she never said that she had the list on her desk, the Epstein stuff. It was just a file that she needed to review, along with the JFK stuff, just some files that she needed to review. You guys remember all that, right? She was sitting there in the... Big conference-looking room at the White House with POTUS, and they were meeting with all of these other world leaders, and that was one of the things that she had said. Okay, well, that's not exactly what you said. She is not being honest. Audio soundbite two. This is actually what she had originally said.
SPEAKER 03 :
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients? Will that really happen?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
SPEAKER 03 :
So have you seen anything there? You said, oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 18 :
Not yet.
SPEAKER 1 :
OK.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, she literally said that. I mean, this was the script thing. She was asked about having this prior and she had literally said before then she was like, well, you know, I just I said that I had the files. I said that I had the files specifically. And she said that, you know, it's beginning a lot of I'm looking at the transcript, by the way, what she had said. And she said, I was asked a question about the client list, she said. And she said that my response was that it was sitting on my desk and I was talking about the files. And she said I was asked on Fox and she said that meaning the file along with the JFK MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that. She said list, Cain.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, she responded directly to the question of, there's an Epstein client list on your desk right now. Is that going to be released? And she's like, yeah, it's on my desk. It was the list.
SPEAKER 18 :
So now she's trying to rewrite it. She's trying to rewrite history and walk back. I mean, that's what it looks like. It looks like she's trying to walk back what she had said in that original interview. And saying that the client list doesn't exist. How does it... Wait a minute. You went from telling Fox News the client list existed when you were specifically asked about the client list. First off, the audio that I just put on Slack. Can we play that? Because that's when she was asked about it. She's saying that she... No, no, no. I only meant the file. The list doesn't exist. So this is what... This was just from the other day. Actually, earlier this week. And they were sitting there. And she was trying to indicate that... She it was the it was the file and not the list. I want you to listen to what she says here. And then we're going to play the original once more.
SPEAKER 08 :
Listen, February, I did an interview on Fox and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said I was asked a question about the client list. And my response was it's. sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, let's go back to the original flashback. Audio soundbite two. Let's hear this once more. Does this sound like it's making sense to you? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.
SPEAKER 03 :
So have you seen anything that you said, oh, my gosh?
SPEAKER 18 :
Not yet. Hmm, Cain. Am I being particularly touchy with wording?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, she kind of ran cover there towards the end of that soundbite. But the reality is she didn't distinct in that answer.
SPEAKER 18 :
She didn't distinguish it at all.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, she literally said that it was on her desk. And... I mean, they talked about it for forever. They ran on it. They had a memo admitting that there were countless victims of Epstein. But now they're like, oh no, there's no list or evidence of rapists they can charge. And then they were trying to say that he wasn't using videos as blackmail. Seriously? She literally said that there was a client list. She didn't say a file. She was talking about a specific damn client list. She said it was on her desk and she can walk it back all she wants to. But that doesn't mean that she didn't say it. I mean, what in the world? This is what happens, by the way, too, when you try to gin up a stroke outrage and wind people up and have them get outraged about something. And then you do a takeaway. Doesn't make any sense. She said that she said she was talking about the client list, not just files. So either she messed up or someone put her in a bad position, which is it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, either she was lying then or she's lying now is basically it, right? Which is it?
SPEAKER 18 :
Like I said, there's only two ways that this works. You were either lied to about them having any of this as a way to... get as a way to agitate how the left agitates and they get their base worked up it was either used as a tactic like that to agitate you or they're covering it up but either way you're being lied to so which is it and this it angers me and people are like well if you're talking about the Epstein stuff you're too much online that is entirely inaccurate I hear about this from everybody It is all anybody talks about at different events. It comes up completely outside of social media. I know people who are not even on social media that talk about this. And they think it's super sketchy. So that's a deflection. When people say, well, it's a too online thing. It's not. It's not a too online thing. I mean, POTUS talked about this at his rallies. All of these other lawmakers campaigned on this. The way it was presented was that this guy had blackmail evidence on every bad guy you dislike. And we're going to get to the bottom of it and people are going to jail. That's how it was presented. And now you're told, nope. I feel like a lot of people, the head of FBI, CIA, all of that, I feel like they're being used as fall guys for this. Like, okay, we can't let this... And I hear all these excuses. Well, maybe they're keeping it quiet because they're investigating still. Well, then tell people, don't do this. I don't believe that because the subterfuge doesn't fly here. Never before has it been used that way. I mean... It doesn't make any sense at all. It makes zero sense. And then you have this. Well, I don't know if I want to play this. I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the setup for it is O'Reilly says he talked to Trump. And Trump said, hey, we can't release that list because there are some names on that list that without context, they're going to rope themselves into this whole Epstein thing when they had absolutely no contact with Epstein in that way.
SPEAKER 18 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what I mean? So... then that would imply there's a list then, right?
SPEAKER 18 :
There is totally a list. There absolutely is a list. You can't convince me otherwise. There's absolutely an Epstein list. And what you have is a bunch of bumbling idiots who can't figure out how to go after the baddies without... Is it possible that there are people who were associated with him that had no knowledge or involvement in what he's doing, especially if it was a different, completely... You know, outside of that business, you know, any kind of other business dealings. I'm sure there is. I'm sure there's the absolute potential for that. There are a lot of people that, you know, are in various industries. They know somebody who is super sketchy and they just kind of, you know, coexist because there isn't enough there to, you know, go to law enforcement or whatever. I don't know. Everybody knows somebody super sketchy or knows of somebody super sketchy. He seems like a super sketchy guy that seemed like he was kind of untouchable, right? And he floated in all these circles. I mean, Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago. Didn't he ban him from Mar-a-Lago like back in the 90s? He thought he was a pervert and he banned him. Yeah, he was like, get out of here. You're gross and banned him. But they would see each other at different events like they would. Musk, I think they said like Musk saw him at different events. And when people take photos at events like that, it's not like you can. They literally just come up in front of you with the camera and they take your photo. They will there are and I'm very I've always been sensitive to that because I never wanted to look like I'm endorsing political candidates by getting photos with them. And. I've literally stopped like photographers like, no, I don't want a photo right now. Thank you. Or I'm just here to speak or I'm just here to whatever. I don't want a photo right now. They literally will come right up in front of you. That's why so many of them look candid or they look like they were interrupted in conversation because that's how it happened. And I don't think that that's indicative of any kind of guilt by association. But you cannot tell me that there's not a list. So Is it that they're not releasing it because they think that that's somehow going to protect the legal process? Well, then just tell people that there's a legal process. I mean, I'm pretty sure if these people are on a list and that there's any kind of back channel and criminal investigation into them, they're pretty much well aware of it at this point, I would think. I mean, for crying out loud, this guy's been in the headlines even still after his death. I think they have an idea. You're not hiding anything. That's just being used as an excuse. That's just an excuse. You're the the excuse that, well, we just don't want the optic of like good people getting roped into anything as a way to just not do anything legally is one of the lamest, most cowardice things I've ever heard. So that's why I'm like, well, I don't believe that the administration is a bunch of completely, you know, frankless pansies. So what else is at play here? It's very it's very weird. You think they're still blackmailing people?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I mean, think about it. If the list isn't going to be exposed and the documents themselves seem to be on hold, imagine how free reign you have if you're currently blackmailing someone that's on this list. You can still do it. You can still keep going with it because you still have the threat of their name getting out there.
SPEAKER 18 :
How would they even be blackmailed, though? I mean, the guy who had all the...
SPEAKER 07 :
He's dead.
SPEAKER 18 :
He's dead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Vote this certain way. Make sure that whatever pack that you're using for advertising includes this. You know, stuff like that. I guarantee you that that type of stuff.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think they just need to come out with it. Somebody in the administration needs to be a hero and just leak it. We have a whistleblower process to blow the whistle when you're going to D.C. with lawmakers. We need one for the people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and there's leaks, by the way, everywhere from SCOTUS to the Pentagon. I mean, leaks are everywhere.
SPEAKER 18 :
The crazy thing that this hasn't been leaked to me is indicative of, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, there's also the theory that the intelligence community, the CIA, Mossad, possibly has some big fish angled that are on this list. They don't want anything compromised. If they're smart, they will. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 18 :
I would. If I was involved in espionage and international security, oh, yes, I would. I keep files on people now. I mean, my gosh. Absolutely, I would. But still, somebody needs to be a hero and leak it. Somebody needs to leak that. I think we all need to know. We don't need to see videos or anything. Please help us. No. We just want names. We want some names. Right? That's all. That's all. Super simple. I mean, I think we're owed that, especially after it was average. Now everybody's supposed to get over it like hell. I don't think so. No, that's not how this works here. No takesies-backsies. There's no takesies-backsies to this. No, no, no. Y'all were saying that you had a list. Show us the list. Very simple. We got more on the way. We got a Florida man coming up as we roll. Oh, we got to talk about the plane fight, too, coming up, too. Our partners that help make it happen, Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative phone service in the nation. Now, yes, they want to save you money, and this is incredibly important as we are looking at you know, tariffs or coming out of inflation, all this other stuff. It's very important that you save money. And so Patriot Mobile, they have plans tailored for everybody, families, businesses of all sizes. Dinks, that's dual income, no kids, and it's super fun to say. Singles, whatever, it doesn't matter. They have something that they can customize for you. It's not just about providing exceptional cell phone service, though. It's also about defending your rights and freedoms by being mindful of where your dollars go. So not only do you get the best coverage in the nation, they operate on all three major networks, but you're not supporting things you don't believe in. That's the thing. I mean, every dollar you spend is actually helping fund the defense of First and Second Amendments. I've seen them be active just in our state capital alone with grassroots activists that are making sure gun control bills aren't out of committee, and they help facilitate that. You get seamless switching. They have a 100% U.S.-based customer service team. Keep your current number, your phone, upgrade. It's never been easier to switch. Just visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and you can get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Switch today and defend freedom with every call and text you make. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana at 972-PATRIOT. Promo code Dana for that free month of service.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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A weirdo Florida man. Golly, he has some serious red hair. Sorry. Wow. Wow. Wow. There's no way. Okay, anyway, I guess way. Central Florida man is arrested for peeping into neighbor's homes. Of course he is. An Auburndale man was arrested and accused of peeping into the homes of two female neighbors. Residents of a mobile home park where he resided, apparently, his name's Tyler Mountain, 28 years old. They said he was surreptitiously recording... and taking photographs of people in their homes using his cell phone. And that, I mean, they got him on voyeurism and some other stuff, but he would peep inside and then he would get, I mean, he was like on the porch or on the back porch or like right up against the window trying to get like video footage and photographs and that. He was booked in Polk County Jail, charged with burglary of an occupied dwelling, two counts, voyeurism, stalking, loitering, and prowling. And also in November of 23, he exposed himself twice. To two different women. So he's lucky that he's alive because I see you on my property doing that. It's Glock o'clock. That's not even messing, man. Giggity Glock. What's happening? Let's see. What is happening with this? OK, Plato's Closet is a resale shop. When I was younger, I thought it was the coolest place ever. Florida man uses his phone to record underage girls in fitting rooms. Again, Glock o'clock. He was arrested. Again, video voyeurism. He used a cell phone to record girls inside a Seminole County store over the Fourth of July weekend. Officers responded. Thirty nine year old Brian Bishop. They got him on camera, the security camera doing this. Like, how does someone go into a store? There's there's so prolific security cameras are everywhere. They're ubiquitous. And he goes in and he's doing this and he's you see him bending down and like. putting the phone under the doors to record on the other side of the doors. I mean, you can see him in the video doing this. And one of the girls noticed the phone and began yelling. And that's when he left the store. But they found him. They booked him in jail. And now he goes before a judge. He appeared before the judge yesterday. I don't have any other updates to that, but he appeared before a judge yesterday. I mean, I'm not kidding you. The fact that these dudes like this do not get shot. Yeah. Are they like picking times or places where they think that nobody, because I absolutely will mark a dude for doing, for like preying on women like this and minors. No way, man. Let's see this. Oh, let's do this one. Driver shoots fireworks from his car while doing donuts in Orlando Street. I thought this was America. It doesn't really seem that crazy, except you can't be driving on the streets like this. You'd take an old beater car into an old cornfield and do this.
SPEAKER 07 :
We just had a story yesterday of an old man dying from fireworks, so it's pretty serious.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, you've got to be careful with that stuff. So these people, they were launching them from a moving vehicle while doing donuts in a busy intersection. That's okay. You can't be doing that. You can't be getting on Michael Bay in the middle of an intersection. Let's not... They arrested Roderick Baez, 20. He had Roman candles and he was riding shotgun. This is like they were his emotional support explosives is what they said. And he was on his way to another street party. And then they got Anthony Colon, 33. Imagine your last name is Colon. C-O-L-O-N. You can't say Colon, could you? Because there's no other way to do that. Colon. He was selling booze to people out of his trunk, the car that was doing the donuts. And then Stoyan Volchev and Dion Custard. Your name is Dion Custard. Okay. 18 and 31 respectively. They were also doing donuts with fireworks. So it seemed like a street circus happening. We have more in store. Third hour on the way. Stick with us as we move our partners that help bring you the program. All family pharmacy. Great website. If you need a book market, save it forever. I've used them so much. You can get your emergency kits. You can get your daily medications, your antibiotics, the whole nine yards. And they're also offering a summer sale that's 20% off of your entire order. No insurance required. Licensed doctors in all 50 states. They're not gatekeepers to your health and the medicines that you need. I've used them for antibiotics to help with strep throat. And you can get your ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, all the stuff that you need at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Make sure to use code Dana to get 20% off of your entire order. And you can get fast shipping right to your front door. Most everything is like in two to four days, but you can get it overnight if you need it because they understand your health is important. And sometimes getting these medications in a timely fashion is critical. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and get 20% off promo code Dana 20. Make sure you use a coupon to save 20% allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana coupon code Dana 20 to save 20%.
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Here's the thing. They are not going after criminals. They're going after anybody that is brown, that looks like me, that can't pass as what they say is a typical American.
SPEAKER 18 :
What in the hell is this? Who is this Froot Loop? Democrat Representative Jimmy Gomez. Oh, for the love. No, you racist moron. That's not what people are saying. I mean, there's again, I cannot believe we got to keep saying it every day because they're just going to keep repeating this stuff until you give up. That's what it is. They're just going to keep repeating it over and over again until you just totally give up. The whole point of this, that's it. It's just a fait accompli. The idea that, well, they're just going after brown people. Not everybody who comes in illegally is brown. Also, you think that everyone who comes in illegally is brown? Does that make you the racist? Why are they so racist? Gosh. Tired of it. Speaking of race, did you see this? Hopefully you haven't. Spare yourself. Tweet from Kathy Hochul, New York governor. She writes, It's her actual tweet. Now, these are unadjusted figures, meaning they just completely eliminate. I don't even know where she got them from. She just makes it up. I just think if it were true, then you would save a lot of money and get real rich quick by hiring only black women. Right. Oh, I didn't think about that part of it, says the dumb leftist that makes the argument. I mean, we know you didn't. We know you didn't think. That's it. It's like that interview where that chick is like, aren't you a musician? What do you mean? I don't think. That's ghetto. Thinking's ghetto.
SPEAKER 06 :
Magician.
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm not a magician, but you play music. What's that? What's that? Stupid. Oh, my gosh. They just like make it up. They pull it up out of the ether. It doesn't make any sense at all. It does not make any sense. So like, what about this? What about the career choices or work experience or location? And does it only compare to white dudes? I mean, are you even comparing the same education levels? Are you comparing even the same vocation? I mean, is there any comparable, you know, anything at all with this? I mean, you realize that that's all been absolutely debunked, the idea of a wage gap between men and women. It's been debunked six ways to Sunday. And the original study when they put this out for a talking point was they would literally compare something like a nail technician to a male surgeon. I'm not even making this up. That's exactly what they did so that they could try to argue that there was such a wage gap. And it also ignored the fact that women, by and large, because we are different, I know that Democrats can't define them, so I have no idea why they're even putting up these parameters to talk about this issue in the first place. But women choose jobs specifically that go around more of their interests. They want to be able to raise their kids. They want to be able to be home more, etc., They don't want the high stress of a of a stressful position. So there's a lot of things that go into it. And you can't have a serious scientific exploration of this issue without accounting for all of those adjustments. She's just making this up just right out of the right out of the wind. Just me. I'm going to make up stuff to 110 percent of Democrats that are in elected office are just dumb. Do you know that? It's an official science because they said it was. That's right. That's absolutely correct. So, I mean, like, what do they compare it to? Like, welders? Pipefitters? Like, what are they even comparing? This is so stupid. It's all about, all they have is race, and they think that their voters are so dumb. They're gearing up for a midterm election, and they think that all, they just need to just race, race, race. That's all they want to focus on. Race, race, race. That's all they have. They can't hook people with their ideas. They have to focus on race. It's sad. It's incredibly sad. A couple of other things to touch on. Speaking of sad, did you guys see this? It's a Washington Post opinion piece. This is an actual headline. It's up on my Instagram page too. The headline says, Donald Trump is not a clown. I should know. Real clowns bring joy to the world, not chaos to Washington. Cain?
SPEAKER 07 :
You have to say that again. What?
SPEAKER 18 :
They had apparently a clown write an actual editorial over at Washington Post.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, Donald Trump's not a clown?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and they're like, I know.
SPEAKER 07 :
He should know, because...
SPEAKER 18 :
Because real clowns bring joy. Real clowns also don't bitch in editorials in the Washington Post. Or do they? I don't know. That's what he writes. He's on the board. I cannot believe they did this. But they went all the way to this guy named Tim Cunningham. He is the board president of Clowns Without Borders, a nonprofit that performs clown shows for communities facing hardship. And he writes, Donald Trump is not a clown. I should know. Real clowns bring joy to the world, not chaos to Washington. Who made him King Clown of Mountain?
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you for editing.
SPEAKER 18 :
So this is, he wrote a whole editorial on this. He's mad because I guess they said that Trump was funny. And I don't know. He writes, quote, it sounds like somebody writing, by the way, not to interrupt myself. It sounds like someone writing a term paper and they're a college freshman. Allegations that President Trump is a clownish figure are not hard to come by. He writes, this is how he starts his piece. Political strategist James Carville referred to Trump's administration as a clown show. No, real clowns. None of this qualifies Trump for such a title. I am a clown and a board president of the nonprofit Clowns Without Borders.
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm here to set the record straight.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, and he does. By the way, it took him this long to get to the point. A whole paragraph. You're not a journalist either, apparently. He goes, I performed as a professional clown for 24 years. Clown, capital C, is a valuable and varied art form. I'm bored to death already. Acrobats, magician, get to the point. Vaudeville artists, shut up, get to the point. Oh my gosh. From stage clowns such as Bill. Shut up. Just get to the point. Clowns demand years, if not lifetimes of study. Shut up. And he goes, he talks about Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. You are no Charlie Chaplin, my dude. You are no Buster Keaton. You are a sad, fat ass dude who is bitching about being a clown in Washington Post. They wrote a whole editorial about this. Yes, I'm mad because I have to deal with this stuff and talk about it on my show. This is so stupid. Oh, my gosh. Kane. Clown is not an invention of the modern era. Several ancient indigenous cultures revere sacred clown figures. Know all this?
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I mean, imagine. For example. No, he didn't. Uh-huh. No, he didn't.
SPEAKER 18 :
The Sioux people celebrate the Hioka, an honorable community member who uses humor to shed light on societal problems.
SPEAKER 07 :
Can I say real quick? I don't think this guy's a clown.
SPEAKER 18 :
All clowns share the common values of humor.
SPEAKER 07 :
So far, I don't feel like I'm experiencing a clown right now. So far, what you've read.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, he sounds, excuse my Portuguese from earlier. He sounds like a bitter Betty. He just sounds so. Oh, my gosh. Like this. I've seen hundreds of Roya Hinga children dance with an ensemble of clowns while their homes in Myanmar smolder in the background. Like what in the world? I mean, if you're going to be a clown, be like funny. Let's find a better metaphor to despise and depose fascism. Okay, I literally thought I have seen people get offended over everything, right? I thought we were at our limit as a society as to what people can be offended about. Really thought we were at that limit. I thought we were there. No, says fate, we're not. And then it gives us this guy. The unfunniest clown I've ever seen in my life. The worst clown ever. Keep clown out of Trumpian comparisons. But you're here. Keep it out of politics. You're literally here politicizing it. What are you talking about? I cannot believe that they published this. Yeah, this is woke Pennywise. That's what this is. I actually am speechless.
SPEAKER 07 :
I wonder how many hit pieces they write that actually compliment the president for not being a clown. I mean, literally, this is a compliment to the president saying he's not a clown. They think this is a hit piece.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're not like this sad sack. Trump's not like this sad sack. I am so offended that they called Trump a clown. I mean, he's trying to stake a claim on Clown Mountain. I am offended on behalf of the clowns. It's like he's so excited he has something to get offended over. Because everybody has something to be offended over these days, right? Everybody's got that something. Yeah. We need Nika Costa actually coming up for headlines. Nika Costa, everybody's got that something. We got to play her because that's exactly what this is. Everybody has their something, right? That they got to get offended about, at least in today's society. Everybody has something. This guy's like, I finally got it. You can almost hear him break his own ankles as he rushes to get to his computer to peter out this little editorial for WAPO. Oh, I'm offended. I finally got something to be offended about. It's like his milestone, right? It's like a girl getting her menstrual cycle. This guy finally found something that he can get offended about, and he's so excited. Oh, my gosh. It's a milestone, Cain. I cannot believe that I can believe that we're here. This is this is every now and then you see one of these marks that really affirm that you are in a living idiocracy. And this is another one right here for me. Right. This is another one, Kane. Oh, and then we get to talk about people fighting on planes coming up. You're going to really enjoy this because it has to do with yelling and people being mad on a plane. And basically any travel situation, it's just we're all bringing that to you. Love that journey for us. So that's where we're all going. We got a lot more actually to hit. What are you looking at this guy? Are you looking at the clown guy? It's so bad. Oh, my gosh. I can't. It's a real editorial. Someone actually was like at Washington Post goes, you know what we need? We need an editorial from a clown. Or we need to play Smokey Robinson, Tears of a Clown. Yeah, we're going to need that. We need that coming up. All right, we got to get moving. If you've noticed dry skin or changing texture that comes with time, you're not alone. And that's exactly what OneSkin is here to help with. Healthy skin starts at the cellular level. Taking care of your skin isn't just about looks. OneSkin's topical supplements make it easy for you to do something practical for your skincare. They're designed by a team of women scientists, and they use the proprietary OSO1 peptide to target the root cause of aging, which is cellular sen-sense, also known as zombie cells. These cells slow down collagen and hydration, making your skin weaker. OneSkin's OS01 peptide is clinically proven to reduce wrinkles, boost hydration, and help strengthen thinning skin. Plus, they have over 4,000 five-star reviews for their face, body, sun, and travel products. Visit OneSkin.co now and enter promo code DANASHOW to get started today with 15% off. That's OneSkin.co promo code DANASHOW for 15% off. After your purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. Support your show and tell them we sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Yeah, we had to play a little Tears of a Clown because that editorial was so bad, we had to. The Washington Post by a literal clown. All right, so first up, a plane to San Diego was diverted after an unruly passenger decides to remove clothing mid-flight. I'm telling you what, if you mess up people's vacations or returns home because you're acting a fool, you deserve to get a full-on beat down in the aisle. I won't know because I didn't see nothing. I don't know what you're talking about, officer. I didn't see anybody get beat down. I just saw a bunch of peaceful people who were being aggravated. That's all. Delta Airlines flight from Atlanta to San Diego was diverted to Texas because somebody decided to take off their clothes on a flight, assault a flight attendant, and then they had to be restrained. DFW airport police say the guy was Corbin Sanders. He was drunk, caused a disturbance, and they had... I mean, he was started screaming and taking off his shirt saying, quote, I want to go home. I want to go home. I want to see my family. Well, yeah, guess what? You're on a plane going home. You moron. Shut up. But they said that it took four law enforcement officers. They had to get on the plane and escort him off and they had to restrain him. So. Afterwards, he didn't resist arrest once the police arrived, but then they had to depart DFW back to San Diego. So, good heavens. Can you imagine? Hopefully, nobody missed flights or connecting flights or anything like that. The Space Needle assures safety amid a viral video of a glass floor crack. No, thank you. It's the Space Needle features the world's first and only. There's a reason why it's first and only. Rotating glass floor. They said that the top layer is a scuff plate and it's designed to protect against shoe marks and the crack is on the protective plate. They're like, no, the actual glass is totally stable underneath. Do you believe that, Cain?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. If it's totally stable, why is it cracking?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, that's where I'm also at. So no. And they said, no, broken glass isn't a concern. It's OK. You can visit. That's it. That's totally OK. You can keep that for you. That's totally all right. Let's see here. Nine percent of U.S. employees apparently use alcohol and drugs at work, according to a really. Where are they working? Nine percent.
SPEAKER 07 :
So one out of ten.
SPEAKER 18 :
One out of ten in their 30s at their workplace use alcohol, marijuana or cocaine while on the job.
SPEAKER 07 :
That seems like a lot of people.
SPEAKER 18 :
That does seem like a lot of people. They said based on prior studies of workplace strategies, blah, blah, blah. Researchers have been looking into this use. They did it at OSU, Ohio State University. They're trying to figure out why this is happening. Probably because they're, I don't know, their 30s and they weren't raised right. I don't know. That has to be it. Like, I mean, people have always had to work. That has not changed. Good heavens. Let's see. The death date of the universe is revealed. Nobody actually can predict the time. And scientists predict when the shrinking will start before the big crunch wipes everybody out. What? I think we're okay. I'm not really worried about this because, I mean, it doesn't matter to me either way. I'm good. You know, like, I'm good. I don't care. You know, SMOD, this, whatever, what have you. Stay with us. Plane fights.
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Make sure you go sign up at Substack, chapter and verse. Find us at Facebook, YouTube, like and subscribe. The chat is not rumble. And Channel 347, the simulcast of the radio program. It's already tough when you're flying, right? You're on an aluminum tube. And you're in the sky. And I just get real antsy when I'm in. I feel like I'm being held captive with a bunch of people. I don't even know how I'm going to do a cruise later. The academic thing with MRC going up to Norway. I mean, it's not like I can scale up the size of a fjord to get away or anything. But being on a plane, where else are you going to go? Open the door and fall to the ground? Where else are you going to go? Hide in the bathroom? Hide in the lavatory? So I get it. When it's time to get off the plane, people want to get off, especially if you have connecting flights. That can be tricky. Or if you got to use the loo because using the restroom on the plane is probably one of the nastiest things ever next to riding the subway in New York. It's horrible. They're always so bad. Like you got to use it first and then just give it up. Then you just give it to God after that because that's, you know, only he can help after that point. So I get it. You want to get off the plane, right? But I think there's like ways to be polite about it. But also people don't want to be polite in today's society for whatever reason. It feels like there's less of it. I think there's less of it because people are tired of putting up with stuff. They're just tired. People are just tired. There's too much. There's too much happening. So Audio Sunbite 17, this is at Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood International Airport. This woman... went on a tirade because she was getting criticized by passengers for getting up and moving forward to get off the plane before the passengers in front of her were able to get off. Now, I don't know how all of this kicked off because, you know, it's always, we have all of these, it's like Bigfoot. We have phones and all these video recording things, but, you know, nobody gets Bigfoot. So I don't know exactly how bad it got to get to this point, but Audio Sunbite 17, this is what happened.
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Right now, Mark, shut your mouth. I want to wait for the people in front of me to get up. That's how we do it. My God, you're all whining for no reason. That's the way you go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let the people go.
SPEAKER 20 :
Just get up the way you want to. You're just a cavern, and that's just the way it is. Just deal with it, people. My God. Why don't you all shut up? It's not affecting any of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are so funny. You're the Karens about it because you're the ones who are making noise. Nobody's bothering you. I'm sorry, do you have my permission to record me? Oh, shut the up. Oh, now she's here. Yep, because you've never said one. I can tell you have. Oh, yes, I can. That guy wouldn't even do nothing.
SPEAKER 19 :
He'd just sit back there and she'd get eaten.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
You can be a judge. No, you're not going to insult someone because of an accent. We're not doing that. Don't put your finger at me.
SPEAKER 13 :
This is a low IQ interview.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, it is. You ain't going to change this. I love when they say ain't and they talk about low IQ. I use aids and I'm in a doctoral program. Oh my gosh. I don't say ain't. i'm sorry but everybody on this plane is insufferable they're all horrible
SPEAKER 18 :
everyone is horrible if i was the pilot i would have dove it into the ocean like gone doing mankind a favor oh my gosh where to even start she was trying to get off that she wanted to get off the plane before every i've been i've seen that before most most of the time people are nice the only time that i ever said anything on a plane when people were trying to rush forward was actually my oldest son was with me can't remember where we were going but there was an elderly lady who was right across the aisle from us and she was like really elderly and apparently like talked to her a little bit she her husband had passed earlier that year she was going to see her sister whose children had placed her sister in a nursing facility so i'm already like my heart is already hurting for this lady right And we helped her put her suitcase up and helped her get situated because she had she wasn't she didn't have mobility issues, but she was like 80 something. She was very she's still an independent lady, sharp as a tack. And she had every right to fly. But, you know, just have a little consideration. Right. So when the plane landed. And everyone's getting up and my son was actually making sure she got up and had her tote bag. There was a younger woman and then people just started coming forward. And one woman literally pushed past her to get to the front and almost knocked this woman on the other two passengers in the seat. And then everyone else, it was like, they saw this one lady going up and I'm, you know, I'm like immediately trying to help this elderly lady because the flight attendants were in the front. They're opening the door. They're not right there in your section. And I'm like, this woman is going to get trampled. And all these people came up. So I got up and I was like, can you please wait? You know, I'm still trying to literally get her up from the aisle. And this was probably like, in 2009 2010 and they kept pushing so finally I lost my cool and I did yell at people I was like can you guys just chill the hell out for five seconds I'm like we're all going to the same place I'm like can I let her get up first because she got knocked down by one of you and I was so mad that they didn't even notice that this woman was literally knocked over in the aisle and And I made sure she got out before us. So if they were going to like try to run her down again, at least they would, they would hit me and my child first, but you know, getting off the plane and she, she was just slow getting up. She wasn't like slow walking. It was just, you know, she's 80 something. And I was just like, and I think the people realized what happened and they saw her kind of trying to get out. Because when you fall in between those aisles, you know how hard that is to get if you're not 80s. It's like hard to get up anyway because you're on your stuff. You can't move this. You can't get up. It's awkward. And I think they realized, oh, my gosh, we got to chill. We knocked this little lady down. And then they were fine after that. But I literally did have to yell at people. That's the only time I ever did. Otherwise, I just don't care. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane. I always whenever we have connecting flights, there's only been one time that it's been close because there was nothing else. But I always give myself tons of time if I got a connecting flight somewhere. A, I avoid connecting flights. But if I have to take one, I always give myself tons of time. And not everybody can prepare that, you know, plan that far in advance, but just try. But I mean, what is it going to save you a couple of minutes to rush forward if that happens? This doesn't make any sense. But the problem with this is that I don't know if she had a connecting flight. I don't know. She could have been a heck of a lot nicer. And everybody else could have been. But she didn't say, Cain, at any point that she had a connecting flight that she had to get to or anything like that. She was just like, you know, whatever. I mean, why? Lady, lie.
SPEAKER 07 :
If I had a connecting flight, I would say, yeah, all right, you guys, you got me. But, you know, I have a connecting flight. So that's why I got up here.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I've been on planes where they're like, if you don't have a connecting flight, can you let other people go forward? And it's like, I don't have an issue. I'm not in a rush to get off the plane. And my husband likes to get off the plane as soon as possible. But I'm like, ah, chill. We don't got to be in a rush. It's all good. It's all good. Clearly, some people got places they got to be. Just let it go. It doesn't really bug me. but what bugs me is like when I see older people like that lady, I don't know if I've ever been that mad in public in a long time, like ever. I was so mad for her. I just could not believe that someone just like powered through and just, I mean, literally knocked her in between the seats. Like she was butt up and her, I mean, almost like a downward dog position. They knocked her in that seat and it was really awkward for her to get up. And the other seatmate passengers, the other passengers in her row were trying to help her. I'm trying to help her. Um, but yeah, Everybody on that plane was just not helping the situation, not helping the situation. Clearly, she felt entitled. She was snotty. You know, the point where it went really downhills where the other lady was like, I'm in a doctorate program. Oh, my gosh. Nobody cares. Just stop. Stop. Don't engage with stupid because stupid loves it. And stupid feeds off it. You do not have to. I always tell everybody, you do not have to attend every fight to which you are invited. You do not have to. Just let it, some people just need to show their backsides. Let them do it. But it just got, and I'm like, there's kids on this flight. I felt bad for the one dude who was just sitting there eating snacks. Did you see him? He was the only guy who would not bother in his soul on this flight. He's sitting there just eating his snacks and she turns around and starts at him. I was like, that poor man. He's eating his snacks. Probably eating them plain, whatever, the plain trail mix. Do they even offer it to the people with peanut allergies get upset? I don't know. The whole thing is just too much.
SPEAKER 07 :
That dude was my spirit animal. I'm the same way. If people are in a rush, just let them go. If you're in the plane and you're not in a rush to get off the plane, having three or four more people in front of you as you're herded off the plane through the jet bridge, you're not gaining.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're not going to get a special award.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're not gaining.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, they're not going to be at the end of the thing. Like, you were the first stop. Here's a million dollars. You guys are losers because you didn't get off the plane first. No one's doing that. There's not those types of rewards.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I'm not 20th in line. I'm 15th.
SPEAKER 18 :
I'm a better person. Put that on my tombstone. First off the plane. Progress. But it just – yeah. And I don't like being in crowds where you're jostling like that. I don't – oh, man, I can't stand it. So I will totally just chill, let them go by, and then do what I got to do, right? Because I already have – I pack light anyway. I already have all my stuff. I only ever do carry-ons. So I'm just like one, one, and I'm out. But there are a lot of nice people that will see you. Because if you don't go, then it's like the current of people just – And then you just, you know, you just sit there until the whole plane gets off. But every now and then there are people nice enough that are like, oh my gosh, go ahead and go. Like you're sitting here ready to go. I'm just not going to like fight with people to get off the plane because I don't have that much patience in life. So I like to reserve it. You know what I mean? For like the times that it would really would matter, right? Like picking up an elderly woman who gets knocked over in the aisle. That's, you know, things like that. But this, I see things like this and it makes me not want to fly. I already don't like it. But I don't know what I'm going to do on this cruise, guys. Sigh. I don't even know. I was looking at the boat, the boat ship. I don't know. I literally, all everything I know about getting on boats is from lakes, fishing, canoes, and then having a power, little power boat, like in the Exumas and going, you know, driving around that. And I know how to, I know ties. I know how to navigate. I know how to read nautical maps because there was no way I was taking my family out in the open ocean without ever being able to do that. Cause insane. But we're on a big boat and came, we're going to be in the fjords, which is basically like, There's no ground. It's just you look around and it's water and rocks. That's it. Sheer cliffs that goats couldn't even get on. Like a goat couldn't even, like one of those weird ones couldn't even get up there.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's not a carnival cruise you're going on. No, no. I think you'll be okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think you'll be all right.
SPEAKER 18 :
All I'm worried about like food poisoning and everybody having diarrhea and like.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, God.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, I guess those are valid concerns.
SPEAKER 18 :
Or like, what if, oh my gosh, I don't know. What if the boat, what if there's a drunk captain? That happened. You guys remember that story? What if there's a drunk captain and they hit something and we capsize in a fjord and then a Loch Ness monster from Scotland eats us? I don't know.
SPEAKER 24 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
So, boy, this just in all new. This is all new, new news. Yeah, that's right. New news. So Angela Paxton, who is a Texas state senator, posted, quote, Today, after 38 years of marriage, I filed for divorce on biblical grounds. I believe marriage is a sacred covenant. I have earnestly pursued reconciliation. But in light of recent discoveries, I do not believe that it honors God or is loving to myself, my children or kin to remain in the marriage. I move forward with complete confidence that God is always working everything together for the good of those who love him and who are called according to his purpose. Now, Angela Paxton, she said Ken, that is Ken Paxton's wife. He is the AG of Texas, and he is running against John Cornyn in the primary for that Senate seat. Wow. I also heard that apparently Cornyn was at the White House visiting with POTUS and that the White House, I guess, trying to get the White House involved in this race, which I always thought POTUS had a good relationship with Ken Paxton. I can't see them siding up next to Cornyn right now, but all very man alive, very interesting. So what do you mean recent discoveries? What? Dude. I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Could she be getting fed false information? Or do you suspect this is accurate stuff?
SPEAKER 18 :
I have heard stuff before about... I don't like to get into people's like marriages and personal businesses and every, I don't know. I, people in Texas gossip more than anybody else I've ever, like in Missouri politics, they gossip, but in Texas it's like an art form. It is a whole new level. And I have heard a lot of stuff and I'm not repeating any of it because I have no idea whether or not it's valid or, but I've heard a lot of things. So I don't know. Um, They she was accusing him of adultery. And that's according to KUT and a couple of other sources. And they said that they in her filing, it was apparently in the petition. She was accusing him of adultery and said that they had stopped living together in June of last year. Wow. So what does that mean for that Senate race? Because Cornyn may not be the quickest, but his operatives are. So, man, that's going to get real spicy real fast. So we'll see how that goes. That's very... And she's going to, regardless of what is happening in their situation, they're going to go at her because they're going to look at her as helping Cornyn. So... All right. We'll have more on that tomorrow. I'll have something up at Substack coming up that kind of looks at the lay of the land on that. Today in Stupidity, Cain.
SPEAKER 07 :
It looks like Michelle Obama and Juliette Louis-Dreyfus. Oh, God. She's insufferable. They're claiming that, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
life is difficult difficult life for american women listen to this women we have so many landmines and barriers and don'ts and limitations um it's you know i mean craig you're the the guy at the table but i think it's important for all guys listening especially men raising daughters um okay to realize that this is what michelle's pushing these days in her imo podcast
SPEAKER 18 :
Everybody wants to be Oprah. I don't get it. Folks, that does it for us today. Make sure you find us on Substack, Chapter Inverse, YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow.
In this episode, we sit down with the skilled gunsmiths of LT Arms. From unpacking the fascinating history and customization of Fitz Special revolvers to detailed discussions on long-range shooting, our guests, including veterans from the field, share invaluable insights and personal anecdotes. Whether you're a seasoned shooter or a curious novice, this episode promises engaging stories and practical advice to enhance your shooting experience.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 04 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. Hey, we've got a great show in store for you as always. And hey, I'm not saying there won't be a time scheduling conflicts may happen, but you can plan on LT Arms being on the first Saturday of the month here with us. Their new location is awesome. 8130 Schaefer Parkway, Unit C. They are open Monday through Friday 10 to 7, Saturdays 10 to 4. And today, a little bit different cast except one guy. Brandon Anderson is with us. He's always been with us. How are you, bud? Good. How are you doing? Good. And then we've got TJ with us. He's on the gunsmithing side of things. So, TJ, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thanks for having me on. You bet. You bet. And then we've got old Sam here. So, Sam, thanks for being with us. Absolutely. My pleasure. All right. Brian, let's start with you. Man, the big move here over the last probably year, it feels like to you. But, man, I tell you what, I have never seen anything like that. I mean, you guys were across the street, had everything over there with the gunsmithing, everything. And then. It seemed like in about three days you moved a whole store over here, and, man, it is awesome. It's beautiful.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, the main part of the move probably took us about three days. I mean, we had to – before we moved over, we replaced floors and patched walls and painted and – I mean, it was a long process. Gunsmiths got turned into tradesmen to get all the work done. But, yeah, it took us a few days, but we're finally – it looks like we're totally settled in. We have a bunch of the taxidermy from Keith over at Hunter T's hung up in the shop. it's starting to look like a store finally and everything's kind of in its place and there isn't random stuff laying around and stuff like that. Got a nice elk mural out on the windows.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, that's cool. Yeah, that's very cool. So kind of give our audience a little bit of a virtual tour through radio, kind of what they can expect when they walk in of how things are laid out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, when you walk in, we have our gunsmithing service rider counter, so if you have anything you need to get worked on, you can bring it straight across to a gunsmith who will kind of diagnose your problem and give you a rough estimate on what it costs to fix. We have the library room, which we had in the other shop, but it's a little bit more front and center. It's just off to the left, but we have the same stuff we had in there, kind of a rundown of historical guns that the U.S. has used throughout wars, and we have our reloading room where we do our reloading classes, and our showroom where we actually have the guns has kind of grown a little bit, and we have a safe door, and it's kind of more like a vault room. We try to do it a little bit higher end and more inviting than the other shop because a lot of people would come in the other shop and they didn't even know that we had a showroom with guns they just thought it was a few revolvers on the front desk and you'd get five people in there that would be standing shoulder to shoulder and not have any room to move around so We've probably, I don't know, tripled in size as far as the front room and the gunsmith area has gotten a lot larger. And there's a cool place where you can look through when you're in the showroom and see what the gunsmiths are working on. Yeah, make sure they're not sleeping back there.
SPEAKER 04 :
I noticed that. It seems like, man, if I was back, I'd say, hey, we need some drapes back here in case we want to pass out. Oh, they would love it. Exactly. You know, that room in there, too, I'm telling you, it is wall-to-wall guns. And you've got some nice guns in there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we've gotten a lot more in stock. We took on some consignments through estate sales, and so we have a large collection of vintage Smith & Wesson revolvers that... We have on display some older Saco Man liquors or the finish-made ones from, like, late 70s, early 80s. And so we've kind of supplemented our new stock with a lot of really, really nice consignment, and we might be getting more this weekend. So if you're looking for something vintage that, you know, you really can't find anywhere else, we might be the place for that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Before we get into a few things with the gunsmith guys here, let's talk about that and kind of how that program works for folks because, hey— People age out. Sometimes they just decide, I'm kind of done hunting or done shooting, and they've got some guns. Someone passes away. Maybe the spouse doesn't know what to do with the guns, different things like that. So kind of explain how it works.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, with our consignment program, if it's an estate sale or something like that and you have a large lot, you can bring it in yourself. But we also offer to where we'll go out to your house and kind of assess the whole thing. and break everything down on a spreadsheet and we'll give you evaluation of each piece and what we think we can sell it for and kind of give you your margins on it and stuff like that so that way if you don't want to you know load your truck up with 30 or 40 guns and try and get them down here we can definitely come to you and just give you a basic rundown of what everything's worth and what we like to have in the shop and make it a little bit easier for you that way and it's easier to learn somebody older you know it's an older lady who just lost her husband it's
SPEAKER 04 :
kind of hard for her to load up a sure an entire safe room full of guns and bring it down here right and it can work two ways correct me if i'm wrong but it can work two ways where hey if they just want to be done with it and just get a check you know that's that's an option or you can do consignment right yeah we do mostly consignment um okay if it's something that
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, it's undeniable that we would absolutely want to buy outright. We'll buy things outright sometimes, but usually we like to consign it just because it gives them a little bit better of a margin. The percentage is a little bit nicer where you're not paying like a 50% margin to where you're only getting half the value of your gun. Sure, sure. We can bring that down.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, because if you write a check, they've got to be fair-minded and understand you may have that gun. three hours you may have it three years i'm stretching three years it's not gonna be that long some stuff does hang up but you don't know you know so they gotta understand you know how you're definitely gonna take less if you do it that way yeah so the consignment is a good way yeah it's a little bit more in their favor because what's your percentage 20 20 okay yeah sorry you get 80 the customer that's a good deal yeah i don't have to mess with people because what are you going to do have people come to your house to try to Hey, can I show you some guns I want to sell? Yeah, that's not a good safe way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that's also the nice part about it is you don't have to have strangers coming to your house and, you know. Not all of them may be interested in buying guns. They may be casing the place. And so it's nice to have somebody you can trust come in and do that for you.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you're just joining us, we are at LT Arms. We're actually at the world headquarters here at 8130 Schaefer Parkway, Unit C. All right, Sam, tell us a little bit about you. This is the first time you've been on the show. So tell us a little bit about you, your background, and how you kind of got into the gunsmithing aspect.
SPEAKER 13 :
So I've been working with Parker and Kyle for the last... 2019? It's been quite a while, six years. One of the lead gunsmiths had guys back there. Got into this by... I was a big gun person and hunting person as a kid. Didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, so I found this field and... It's been a great thing to go into. I'm only focused on the smithing and fixing guns and repairing stuff, a little bit of sales, but mostly it's just fixing and repairing guns and customizing stuff.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. What's the strangest thing somebody's ever brought in and you're like, you want me to fix this, that type of deal? Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
I've had a couple of guys bring in homemade things where they've either built themselves or kind of cobbled together stuff and want us to fix it and it's never fun because it never quite works the right way. God, strangest thing. Yeah. That's right. Come back to me on that one. I'll have to think about that for a bit. Yeah, no worries. There has been quite a few strange things. We've done some oddball jobs and some custom things for customers that they just had to have it that way. The kind of newest craze we've been doing quite a few of lately is the Fitz Special. It's just a kind of cut-down pocket revolver. The Evan Lee, our ordering guy and reloading guy, had us build him one because it was a gun of his dreams for years. And then the last few months, we have... Is there two in the shop right now?
SPEAKER 06 :
Two we're working on and another couple that are... Describe it.
SPEAKER 13 :
What is it actually now? So it's a... You can do a Colt or a Smith. It's traditionally done on a Colt, but you cut the barrel down to about two inches. You cut the front half of the trigger guard off, so there's no... resistance on the finger on there. You bob the hammer so it removes the hammer completely and then makes it into a tiny little pocket revolver. It's what caliber? There's a couple of them calibers. Most of them are 38.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, the ones working around 38. And it started from John Henry Fitzgerald. He was a guy who was a competitive shooter and a designer for Colt back in like the 20s and 30s. And he was designing for the FBI as like a backup gun. And they bobbed the trigger guard so you could reach the trigger with gloves on in the cold. It was like during Prohibition era. Gotcha. It was kind of like a... Everything else fails, you still have this little snubby width that's, you know, everything's cut down that's easy to get to and...
SPEAKER 13 :
We embellish ours quite a bit. High polish on the steel. The hammer and trigger we jewel. They're very pretty looking. The ones right now, one's getting chrome plating on the cylinder. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's cool. Making them pretty. When I first met Kyle, he was telling me all that you guys had here, and he used the term full-service gunsmith. That may mean something to other stores. What does it mean here at LT Arms full service?
SPEAKER 13 :
That's pretty much what it means here. There isn't really much I don't do in the back. There's a handful of things that I can get done cheaper, places that I want to save customers money on, but it's few and far between. I mean, we machine things, we blue things, we color case things. Repair place all that kind of stuff. Yeah, there's really not much would do the only things we don't do in-house We don't do choked tube installations. We have a place that does that for a great price Don't do porting same same reason we can get done for way cheaper than we can do it and then chroming That's the three things we really don't do in-house Everything else I can do back there And most of your shops, they advertise guns for things they're going to talk about. We armors. We can put parts on a gun. We can build you an AR versus back there. We're constantly building custom bolt rifles. We're doing custom shotguns. We're doing really everything. You can possibly imagine.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Once again, if you're just joining us, we're at LT Arms, 8130 Schaefer Parkway, Unit C. They're open Monday through Friday, 10 to 7. Saturdays, 10 to 4. Hey, when you come in, let them know you heard about them here on Sportsman of Colorado, and we'd appreciate that as well. All right. Now we've got TJ with us. TJ, tell us a little about yourself and how you ended up here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I'm from Colorado down south from Pueblo. Kind of a typical story. After high school, went to the Army, got out. After getting out, I was just kind of confused or kind of lost what I wanted to do. And I just stumbled upon Colorado School of Trades for gunsmithing. And through there, actually, I met a couple of the old co-workers that used to be at Gunsmith at Large. And Jeff and Pat and everybody there was always talking about LT Arms and Parker and these guys down here in Littleton. And so one day I just randomly reached out after graduation. I said, hey, do you guys need anybody else? And they said, come on down. The next thing I know, here I am. I started up in the front, kind of in the reception area. Next thing I know, I'm helping Sarah coat stuff in the back. And then they provided me with a bench. And it's just been uphill ever since. Wow. Cool. Army. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you signed up at what age? 18, right out of high school.
SPEAKER 1 :
18.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, sir. Talk about that experience just a second. I know this doesn't have anything to do with LTR, but what was that like?
SPEAKER 08 :
It was fun. It was definitely different. It definitely got me out of my comfort zone and helped me. uh, definitely get a reality check and kind of grow as both an individual and as a professional. Um, because I think even if I found CST, uh, out of high school and trying to do that, I don't think on a maturity level I would have, um, grew as fast as I did. So I, I do thank the army for that to kind of help me kind of grow up really quick. Um, got to travel to a few places saw some cool stuff did some cool things um usual story he's shooting shooting machine guns blowing stuff up well and you got out yeah why would you get out if you get to do that yeah i ended up unfortunately just getting hurt my last year and uh i could not make a comeback like i thought um i tried to pursue it again a little bit more uh in the national guard for a year but it just uh my health just kept going down with my back sure sure and uh But, yeah, on the flip side.
SPEAKER 04 :
We appreciate your service. And I mean that, you know. I always look back. You always look back at things you kind of wish you would have done. And I honestly wish I would have done something like that, you know. And so we thank you for your service. All right. One area you like is long-range shooting, right? Yes, sir. Fill us in a little bit about that and kind of where that's come over these last few years.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so actually I'd like to announce something kind of cool coming to Shikari and LT Arms. Shikari Precision. So it's going to be long-range precision rifles built by long-range precision shooters. The backing of this is I kind of started actually in the Army too. I kind of enjoyed shooting long range and everything that came with it from calling wind to even learning how to properly mount even your equipment. And I didn't know, being such a novice guy, that I was mounting my scope wrong. And little things like... working and just body placement too and just developing as a shooter as a whole so I've been kind of trying to extend that knowledge and training since leaving and being here and actually I was able to go and shoot with the cadre and the cadre was founded by Philip Vallejo and they are A really cool group of guys. So they're actually a team of Marine Scout snipers and competitive shooters. Phil was actually one of the lead instructors at the Marine Corps Schoolhouse out in San Diego. And I shot with him and Ian Miner out in Cody at the Cody Shooting Complex. And after being there, I learned right away There is a huge need for gunsmiths, especially with turnaround times. I mean, just barrels alone, talking to everybody there, because it was a four-day course, and I talked to probably about 15 to 20 people. Their barrel lead times are six to nine months, and that's just the barrel. Yeah. That's not even including, you know, getting your threaded, chambered, and everything else that goes into that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
so as you go through how does that conversation start when people come in and you know they say hey do a lot of people come in and say hey i'm into long-range shooting or they want to get into long-range shooting what's up it's recently it's been kind of a mixture um i guess more so i want to get into long-range uh shooting um
SPEAKER 08 :
past three weeks for sure. I've definitely, definitely a lot more people coming into that. Um, and then from there I asked them, you know, what is your definition of long range shooting? Um, because for some guys, two to 300 yards is long range shooting to them, but then you get into ELR and those guys, ELR means extreme long range. Um, so those guys are shooting eight, 1800 is close to them. So they're always past 2000, 2000 yards. Um, And for NRL and PRS, NRL is cool, especially NRL Hunter. That's designed for hunters. And that means NRL? National Rifle League. And they give you different hunting scenarios. to where you come up to a station, and it's always going to be an animal-shaped target. But they just changed the rules to now it's going to be 700 yards and in. You could get lucky, depending on how you see it. They might have a target out to 1,000, but it's to simulate actual hunting scenarios, and I guess there was something going on with guys trying to take shots out on actual animals out to 1,000 and not properly killing the animal. I kind of call it, you know, what is your effective range?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I mean, what can you shoot is a different question than what's your effective range, right? Your ethical range. Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's like a question of ethics comes into play in everything. Yeah. Because, I mean, when I go hunting, I don't consider anything past 300 or 400 yards, but then we get guys that come in here and they're, you know, I shot this buck at 700 yards.
SPEAKER 04 :
yards i'm lucky you hit it in the right spot yeah my longest is 417 and that was in africa at a red heart of east and so that i mean it was cool but it was super flat land that yeah yeah but that's the longest but man i see these guys on some mountain to mountain type shots and i'm like wow
SPEAKER 13 :
Doing a half so many factors, you know If you don't hit quite right and it starts to walk you have to actually find where it was and then yeah track it down and that could be way farther than you want to be at that point in time and Just not as ethical in my opinion. No.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us. Just a quick reminder now, you miss our show on Saturdays 1 to 2. You can catch us twice on Sundays. That's from 8 to 9 a.m., 8 to 9 p.m. Then the following Thursday is 9 to 10 a.m. So hopefully one of those four times will work out for you. And of course, you can catch our podcast where you get yours, as well as our website, sportsmanofcolorado.com. Well, great to have a couple of Good friends in studio, Dan Gates, Colorado's responsible for wildlife management. Great friend of the show for a number of years now, actually. So, Dan, good to see you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you very much, Scott. Appreciate it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Man, how long we been doing it? You brought Bob Brosh out in, I think, the first time we've sent. So how long is that?
SPEAKER 11 :
Bob left in 2017, 2018, so it's seven or eight years for sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, seven or eight years, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Feels longer than that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. No offense, but it feels longer than that. You walked in the first time, I was like, oh, my God, this guy. I better be nice to him. He might just kill me right here.
SPEAKER 11 :
I get tired of listening to that guy over and over and over.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, man. And Cody Loster is with us, United Houndsman of Colorado. Cody, good to see you, sir. Good to see you. Thanks for having me on. Great to have you in, man. Man, we're going to get into some stuff next week as well. They've got a banquet coming up, too, August 2nd. So we're going to get into a lot of that here over these next couple of shows. Um, with Dan and Cody. So Cody, we'll start with you. Um, man, I'd love to get people this first time you've been on with us, uh, kind of give us a little bit of your background and, um, how the whole United housing thing started and what got you involved in that? Well,
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, how much time you got here? Hey, we have plenty. I'll tell you when we're close. Yeah, so, you know, I'm born and raised Colorado native. Born in Longmont, grew up there, ended up going to college in Laramie, Wyoming for a little while. Didn't finish, but moved back down to Colorado. And, you know, this has always been my home. And I don't know, as long as people don't run me out, I don't plan on leaving. Yeah, no doubt. It's pretty nice. But, yeah, you know, as I was a young boy, grew up hunting, fishing, ranching, farming, all those things, and got into riding bulls, actually. And that's typically from Colorado. That's how most people know me is, hey, are you that bull rider? You know, I'm not anymore. I'm retired. But fortunately was able to do something I really love to do for a living for most of my adult life. and you know I'm not one to ever toot my own horn but had quite a bit of success and ended up you know accomplishing a lot of goals becoming a world champion and um throughout all that obviously hunting was still a big part of my life even though it had taken a back seat a little bit to the to the bull riding career but um how I got into the the whole United Houndsmen of Colorado and being a houndsman and stuff like that um I'd started hunting well we when we back up a little bit we'd uh My family had always raised bird dogs, right? We raised Chesapeakes for waterfowl. And so that was something I always loved. And then when I got into riding bulls and raising bulls, raised my own cattle dogs, right? And then got into the hounds and started hunting with guys that had hounds and learning what I liked, what I didn't. Really, that kind of took off. As far as the dog part of things, I've always been a huge fan of working dogs. I think they're the coolest critters around. No matter what their job is, they're just awesome. If I fast forward a little bit to when my career ended, riding bulls, I didn't get to pick when that time came. It was kind of chosen for me. Mentally, I needed a new challenge. I needed something to pursue and really put my heart into it. something that was similar to bull riding and you wouldn't think running dogs or training dogs is very similar to bull riding but for me it was because bull riding was always an individual thing right like it my success and failure came down to how much work I put in and and whether I Whether I won or not, it was all on my back. And I really enjoyed that. Just something that's very hard, very individual. And believe it or not, running and training dogs is the same exact way. What you get out of it is what you put into it. And being able to do something that's very difficult, that you'll never perfect, but you can get better every day at. Oh, gosh. Just something, that fire lit back up inside me that was something that Once bull riding was taken away, I was kind of lost. And so fast forward on now, happened to just fall into the position, I guess, as vice president of UHC. And partly because of necessity, right, with what we faced last year with the potential loss of being able to hunt mountain lions and bobcats. and do what we love, which is, um, you know, with, with the dog work. And so, uh, kind of fell into that position just because they needed, um, the organization was already established, but we needed some different leadership with a little different connections and able to pursue things the way they needed to be done. And not that we're anywhere near where we want to be, but we're able to have some growth and, and move, you know, move closer to the goal of becoming what we wanted, what we want as far as representation of, of houndsmen in this state. And it's something that I think a lot of the public doesn't understand, right? We're a pretty small segment of the population. Heck, a lot of hunters even don't understand.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that's why I'm thrilled you're here because, as I said before we came on air, this is an education part for everybody, you know, because I think they may see of you or know of you but don't know, what does that mean, you know? Are they like a dog kennel club? I mean, what are they doing? What's your mission, so to speak?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Yeah. And so along those lines, you know, to spread the awareness and the knowledge of what hunting with hounds is and to promote it's not the sport, it's the heritage. Right. This this goes back thousands and thousands of years of men, humanity, hunting with hounds, hunting with dogs. And so to really to bring that out, educate people on why we do this, how we do this, the efficacy of this. And also when you get into the wildlife management side of things, you know, it's all it's all part of the big picture on how this all works together and game management. you know, animals are different and they're hunted different ways in different spots of the country. And, um, the reason we use hounds obviously on particular species is because that is the most, uh, efficient and ethical way to hunt those particular species. And so, um, Yeah, it's really been fun throughout the past year to be part of all this and be able to educate and help. We're all looking for the same thing, and that's to strengthen the North American model of wildlife conservation through outreach, knowledge, and just getting the public involved in something that should matter to them. A lot of people it doesn't because it's not part of their day-to-day lives. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, Dan, this, you know, last year, as Hughes mentioned, the Prop 127, I mean, it's groups like this that really helped us be successful there, didn't it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, tremendously. I mean, just what these guys were able to bring to the table through the entire process. the houndsman Cody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am, but the houndsman didn't historically get involved in the legislative side of the parks and wildlife commission side or the management side. They might've been participatory on studies and things along with Colorado parks and wildlife, or maybe wildlife services or whatever, but you hadn't really gotten engaged because you hadn't been really attacked or assaulted, even though you might've been on the periphery of things. And when, when we started the campaign in, in September of 2023, which was Initiative 91, which eventually became Proposition 127. I reached out to these guys and vice versa. And we, we laid a groundwork out and an establishment, a strategic plan on how we could accent each other and then how we could turn around and fight locked arms for the sportsman community, not against within the sportsman community. And, you know, there's not a houndsman that I, that I know that doesn't fish or that doesn't elk hunt or that doesn't bird hunt. And there's, and there's, But there's very few elk hunters and bird hunters and fishermen that actually do houndsman stuff. And same on the trapping of the predator hunting side, like with the Colorado trappers and predator hunters. Every single one of them pursues every other type of game species. But they are a small segment of the population. The thing that we tried to make sure that we were at least lockstep in our messaging was... while we might become the low-hanging fruit, the houndsmen and the trappers or the predator hunters, it was the catalyst on what could be representative of what the overall intention, the agenda was, is to knock us out and then go to the next level. And if you look at everything in the playbook from the animal rights extremists to the opposition, yeah, they want the low-hanging fruit first, but then they're not going to stop with that. And we were the catalyst to be able to turn around and explain that because we With hound hunting, it's no different than using bird dogs to turn around and go out and hunt pheasants and chukar. It's no different than waterfowl dogs, except for they're not jumping up in the air and trying to catch a duck. They're going out to retrieve the duck or the goose. Cody mentioned the use of dogs is an age-old tradition in humanity. And since the beginning of domestication, man was trying to utilize dogs as a tool. We just so happened that we could cross paths in our messaging to say, it's not about me and it's not about him and it's not about this or that, it's about all of us in some capacity. And that message resonated well enough to unite the sportsman community to turn around and say, I'm a sportsman and I hound hunt, or I'm a sportsman and I trap, or I'm a sportsman and I elk hunt. And I think that that was great because you guys hadn't been on the landscape prior to that in any significant numbers. And what we were able to pull together just showed exactly what we were trying to accomplish, and that was unification of a tradition and a heritage through science-based wildlife management.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, you guys have a membership basis, right? We do, yeah. I think it's like 50 bucks for the year? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they're very affordable. And it's grown every year. So that's good to see. And, you know, the nice thing, obviously, about memberships and all these various groups is you can support a group without doing that activity, right? We're all working towards the same goal. And so, you know, I'd encourage everybody, even if you're not a houndsman, join up. And we do the same, you know, with RMEF and Wild Turkey Federation, all these other organizations, because we want to support each other to fight the big fight.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. You know, I mean, I started Sportsman of Colorado in 2013. So, I mean, I hadn't been doing this a long time. Of course, I've done it all my life. But, I mean, once I started hearing about all these different groups and meeting people at different groups and just being honest, it seemed like every group almost – They were in their box and didn't want to look out over the corners at anybody else and helping anything, you know. And so I was like, man, why aren't people a little bit more engaged with each other and helping different deals? And we did see that this last time, I think, you know, quite a bit more. I was emceeing a few banquets, and there was one Pheasant Forever banquet we did. And, man, a young lady at the end said, hey, we've done our fundraising here for Pheasants Forever, and now we need to help, you know, Dan Gates, Colorado Pheasants Forever. And man, that was so cool. So I thought then a couple other banquets I was emceeing, I'd go to the people that were running it, and I'd go, hey, look, what do you think about doing this? No, we don't want to do that. We don't want to do that. And I was just like... I mean, it really ticked me off, to be quite honest with you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, on the flip side, too, I want to give credit to where credit's due because a tremendous amount of those organizations and chapters came out to support the cause. They weren't supporting Dan Gates. Screw Dan Gates. They weren't supporting CRWM. They were supporting the fight, and we just happened to be the idiots at the front of the line. And once we got that through some people's thick heads, other ones, it wasn't near as difficult, but they were willing to turn around and do that stuff. And so whether it's the Wild Sheep Foundation, Rocky Mountain Bighorn, Rocky Mountain Elk, you name it, we got a hell of a lot of support from a hell of a lot of entities. Some of it was reluctant because they didn't think that they were in that fight. But later in the campaign last year, when the proponents of 127 came out with an email to their team, to all their followers, and said, this is our chance. Once we get rid of the mountain lion trophy hunters and the bobcat trophy hunters, then we go after the big horn sheep trophy hunters, and then we go after the elk trophy hunters. And then everybody started going, holy crap, these guys were truthful when they were saying it's not just them. They're the low-hanging fruit, but we're next on the list. They put that in their own words, in their own email. And that catapulted us to a level to where the last month of the campaign last year, a lot of the fence-sitters started coming in monetarily. Better late than never, but it would have been a lot nicer to have that funding mechanism earlier. But that showed the continuity and that showed the realization of what our community as a whole can do when we're pushed up against the wall, when there's a sense of urgency, and to show how fragile and volatile our landscape is. But at the same time, show how unified we can be if we really want to be and we don't want to turn around and silo ourselves. Sure, sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Dan Gates is with us, Colorado's responsible for wildlife management. Catch Dan's podcast as well, Through the Gates, and I'll let him talk about that here in just a minute. And then, like I say, if you're just joining us, Cody Loster is with us, United Houndsmen of Colorado. And check out their website, unitedhoundsmanofcolorado.com. Again, $50, man, annual membership. $1,000 for a life member. And, hey, good thing to throw some money at here to help these guys. Now, do you guys have... You do a lot on social media and things like that, but do you guys ever have meetings for people to come to and different things like that? Because, again, I think that's where we've been missing a piece to the puzzle. CPW, they have these meetings and stuff. Well, a lot of them are Thursdays at noon. Well, I do a noon-to-one show. I'm never able to get involved in that. So how can people get involved with you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, UHC has got lots of options. Obviously, there's the membership option. We just recently had our houndsman days, which is like field trials for hounds. And it's not just for people with dogs, right? Like there's we got lots of good food, good company, and you get to kind of get a taste of that, of that world, right? And this year was great. We had we had several people come out that didn't have dogs, they just wanted to come experience it. And so That was really, really good to see again just on that outreach aspect of it. We do have our banquet coming up. We moved that around a little bit. Last year we had it in Gunnison. This year it'll be at the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame in Colorado Springs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that'll be cool.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah, that'll be really nice. It's a great facility. Really cool, even if you're not into dogs and hunting, you can come up for that and potentially win some really cool prizes, raffles, auctions. And not only that, but just if you're into rodeo, there's a lot of history there. Maybe I'm partial to that.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, it's cool, man. That is August 2nd. It'll start at 5 p.m., as you mentioned, Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame. Hey, here's another thing I like about everything that, you know, The outdoorsman days we're going to talk about. Family friendly. Yes. Hey, and it's cool to see kids. We could do a whole show on that. But, I mean, it's cool to see kids out there doing this stuff too. So how do they get tickets? Go to your website?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Yeah, you can get tickets on the website. You can also get them at the door. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can get them at the door as well. Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. But, yeah, we always encourage everybody to come out. We're reaching out actually to the ag community as well, cattle producers and stuff as well because – They're part of this fight in us with everything. And as Dan was talking about what we can do when we all come together, I think last year what we saw was inspiring because it made – sometimes the challenge of something seems so daunting that people don't try. And that did seem daunting. It was a real thing. We were told we'd lose like for 14 months. Yeah. And that's a real thing, right? People feel daunted by the task and so they don't attempt it. And I guess the bull rider in me despises that with every bit of my soul. Like, I don't care if you're going to beat me, but I'm going to make it as hard as possible for you to beat me. And most of the time I'm going to win.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that's the attitude I think we can all take on this stuff. It doesn't matter how big the task is. We can get it done if we get together. So not only in the sportsman's community, but in the ag producers as well. We can really, really do some good. Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's why Cody and I get along so much because he's a winner and I'm not a loser. And somewhere that meets in the middle, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
You're listening to Sportsman Colorado. We've got to hit a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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Welcome back to Sports from Colorado. If you're just joining us, Dan Gates is with us. Colorado is responsible for wildlife management. Cody Lohstra is with us, United Houndsmen of Colorado. Cody just got to tell us about his banquet, August 2nd. Once again, that's at the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame. And, hey, great dinner, raffle, live auction. Robbie's going to be there, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, Robbie Kroger with Blood Origins. Starts at 5 p.m., too. 5 p.m., all right, yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
And then Pat Dorsey, I think?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, Pat will be there, and we're working on a couple more speakers as well. So it should be a pretty fun lineup.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that'll be great. And once again, you can get tickets at the door, or you can get them online at unitedhoundsmanofcolorado.com. Outdoorsman days. Man, great time last year, and previous years have been great as well. But, man, Dan, looking at your lineup, got a pretty good lineup this couple of days here in August, the 8th and 9th.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we got a good lineup this year. Last year, it seemed like it was a sense of urgency that everybody wanted to get a chance to be part of the fight. And now everybody realizes the fight isn't just one time. It's not one time a year. It's all the time. And people are willing to turn around and come in and support and help out however is needed. You know, you got to have people that are willing to donate their time and their effort. and their finances to be able to help pull this stuff off. But, no, we've got two great days coming up, August 8th and 9th, in Pathfinder Regional Park in Florence, just south of Colorado Springs.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Let's see here. We're going to have a barbecue dinner. Tickets are $70 each. They've got some corporate tables available. And that says with perks.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, there's a bunch of perks on that Saturday night, August 9th. That's our fundraiser dinner. Right. That'll culminate the two-day activity that'll happen on Friday and Saturday. But the banquet is $70 a ticket. The corporate tables are $1,500. Last year, we sold out almost two weeks in advance, about 425 people. Had 4,600 people that were actually at the event over the two days. And while we won't be able to turn around and name every single thing, and maybe we'll get on later in the season here, there's a tremendous amount of activities over the two days. And we encourage everybody to look into it, come down, spend some time. There's camping on site. There's hotels real close. There's a wildlife calling contest for elk and waterfowl and turkey and predator calling. cash prizes. There's an archery shoot that Sam Westfall is helping to run with Valor Archery Challenge. He's with Archery in Motion. And we've got gold panning and chuck wagon dinners on Friday night. Last year we had seven chuck wagons there. I think you were there Friday night.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it was really cool. Those chuck wagons were cool to see how they just did all that from scratch, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
They feed a pretty good deal. And then we kind of had some weather issues last Friday. But this time, same setup, same type of goals. There will be skinning and game processing seminars.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll tell you, that was cool. Last year, a guy was over and did a bear. Yep. And that was really cool.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yep. And did the processing, too, to show the people how to actually cut and process their own meat off of – well it was a domestic goat right uh but they get to see it hands-on and that that hunter education class that colorado parks and wildlife does that was the largest one in the state of colorado last year they put uh almost 100 people not just kids but people through that class in two days and like i say vendors seminars demonstration mountain man encampment um you know kids fishing derby on saturday uh gold panning from the pikes peak prospectors It's an all-day event for two days, and we've got some really cool stuff. We have a couple of bush planes that are going to come in and land on grounds and set up a booth over there about backcountry access in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, Canada. And they're going to set up right there on the grounds. And so we got permission from the county commission and the Pathfinder Regional Park to set them down right there. So just a ton of different things going on. But the culmination is on Saturday night with the banquet that starts 430. And tickets can be bought either through the QR code online. You'll start to see some social media advertisements and television advertisements. But you can go to ColoradoOutdoorsmansDays.com. Or if you can't remember that, you can go to SaveTheHuntColorado.com, which everybody kind of remembers from last year, and it'll lead you right to the same website.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, cool. Hey, and one of my favorite things, the Ugly Hunting Dog Contest. Well, there's plenty of dogs down there at that time.
SPEAKER 11 :
United Houndsmen will be there, and I think the Rocky Mountain Big Game Recovery guys will be there again. But, you know, we have a ton of people, you know, Ralph and Vicki Cianciarillo, Fred Eichler, we've got Sam Westfalls, Zach Hansen, Laramie Sasquatch-Miller, Ray Livingston, Jermaine Hodge, you name it. We've got a little bit for everybody. And if you've never shot a bow, come and shoot a bow. If you think you're really good at shooting a bow, there will be some competition stuff that Sam's running. And just come and spend some time on site because the facility is great. It's right on the Arkansas River between Canyon and Florence. And $5 a carload to get in. So you put 15 people in the car, we'll turn around and take you in.
SPEAKER 05 :
Whatever you can get in there.
SPEAKER 11 :
So we're looking forward to seeing everybody. And it's going to be something to where I think you'll see it continue to grow. Last year, 4,600 people. We expect 5,000 to 6,000 people this year. And no reservations are needed. Just show up and have fun and come engage and learn about the outdoors and learn about all the other organizations that are doing what we do to help save the hunt.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think I remember seeing some RVs camp.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah, there was camping there.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, people can camp out there if they want. Yeah, Will goes, I'm going to bring a tent. Do you want to? Do that. And I go, no, I don't want to do a tent, dude. I'll do a tent when I'm a hot dog. I ain't doing a tent.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it's a good thing because a Friday night you might have gotten wet as much rain as we got.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's for sure. Once again, it's coloradaoutdoorsmansdays.com is the website, August 8th and 9th. And I'm telling you, it's worth it to go both days. All right. There's just so much going on and a lot of great people. And, you know, and that's the thing that I like too, Dan, is just getting around people and meeting new people that – You know, maybe we didn't even know before, you know, and understand where they're coming from with their group and how we can help them, too. So, I mean, I have never seen, man, and I know you'll agree with this, the attack, you know, from all of our gun legislation that's happened over the last couple of years to the hunting side. I mean, man, it's just unbelievable.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Scott, you're going to be down at this event.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
You might be in a track chair or whatever you're hobbling around after your surgery.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I've got to get my knee redone here. I had a replacement five years ago, and it's doing some cracking. We'll push you around in a wheelbarrow. So I'll be there. Yeah, but I'll be there both days. But, yeah, it's going to be good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think so. I appreciate the opportunity. I look forward to talking to you more about that and other things as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely, yeah. So we've got about five minutes here. Then I'm going to get you guys to come back next week because I want to get into this a little bit more. So, hey, if you're listening to the show now, be sure you catch next week as well. Then we'll give you a couple minutes and Cody a couple minutes on the biggest challenges facing us. And then when we do our show next week, we'll get into some of the things that, you know, what we need to do and how to get more people engaged. Because that's got to have been disappointing to you over the couple years. When you talk to people and you look at the wolf thing, and I think you said this, so correct me if I'm wrong, if like 30% of the licensed hunters would have voted in Colorado against the wolf thing, we would have won that, you know. And I mean... good night what do we have to do to get people engaged and I was hey if I got to be on not a huge political guy you know what I mean and I mean but after a while you got to figure out hey during my show Greg Lopez you know I bought Greg on my haystack show because I'm like hey that's about businesses but you know what we're gonna have any businesses if we ain't got a good place to so man I started doing more stuff myself but but what do we do
SPEAKER 11 :
I think the biggest thing, Scott, and I appreciate the question, is people have to decide what value they have to be able to participate. We ran into so many people during the campaign that, for one, they didn't know what, when, where, how. They didn't know who their elected officials were. They didn't know when elections were. They didn't know things were on the ballot. And I'm not saying everybody needs to be a political road scholar like what Cody and I have become. Not that we're the smartest apples in the basket, but we're not infested with worms yet. we have to be able to turn around and get people to understand if it's an attack on me and we buy a license in this state to perpetuate Colorado's science-based wildlife management program through Colorado Parks and Wildlife, if it's an attack on me, it's an attack on you. And these people that are trying to stop all of this don't have a particular interest about one thing or another. It's about all of it. Their answer is zero, none, nada. You don't do it for any way, shape, or form. Now, they might just talk about a little bit of it over here, but their ultimate goal – and if you look at their background, look at their fundraising, look at their message that they've created over the last 20 or 30 years – They want it all gone. And if you listen to the leaders of those organizations, they have said this stuff on the hot mic for the last 20 or 30 years. It's not about getting rid of trapping. It's not about getting rid of dogs. It's not getting rid of shooting our state animal, the bighorn sheep. It's about all of it. And we have to be able to turn around and ignite our side to get them to understand that all of us are up against the wall. All of us are under assault. And all of us are in the target zone. of the enemy right through the gates uh your podcast yeah that wasn't plans but yeah through the gates is we started that january 1st i think we're going into our 44th or 45th episode so far and it was an attempt based upon all the podcasts we were on last year and taking the advice from those individuals the big influencers the ranellas and the cameron hayneses and everybody You need to do this to keep the message out and to keep people updated. And that's just what it's done. It's been able to keep people reinvigorated and enthused and somewhat optimistic and informed about some of the happenings, not just in Colorado, but a lot of different other places about species of take. And just try to keep people informed. We're not trying to be the next meat eater. We're not trying to be the next Scott Watley and turn around and run some sort of a big radio show. We don't have the bandwidth or the financial fortitude to be able to turn around and keep building up an army every two years to try to fight something like what we fought last year. That was a $3.3 million campaign. I don't know about you, but we can't keep doing it like that. We have to change our playbook and our roadmap of how we're going to stay on the landscape and how we're going to be at the front of the line. Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Cody, I've got about 60 seconds, but we're going to bring you back next week, man. Biggest challenges kind of facing you guys.
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If I had to sum it up in one word, engagement. It's got to be the engagement. Dan famously said, if you don't have a seat at the table, you're going to end up on the menu. That's something that needs to be taken seriously.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And, you know, I think education's got to come, you know, where we get the truth out because there's so much garbage on social media that's not even true, you know, and then get that engagement. I think we'll get that engagement if we do the education side, right? Absolutely. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Hey, don't forget the dates, August 8th and 9th, Outdoorsman Days. Go to ColoradoOutdoorsmanDays.com, and also the banquet for United Houndsmen of Colorado is August 2nd, and it'll be at the Pro Rodeo Hall of Fame, and you can get tickets at the door there or on UnitedHoundsmenOfColorado.com. Once again, don't go anywhere next week. Listen next week. We're going to get more with these guys. So thanks for being with us. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend. Remember, Sundays 8 and 8 a.m. and p.m. You can catch the replay and then the following Thursday from 9 to 10. So for Dan Gates, Cody Lohstrom, thanks for being with us. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend.
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In this high-octane episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush and Jersey Joe pull no punches while shredding the progressive narratives dominating today’s political and cultural landscape. From the mathematical absurdity of New York’s proposed tax hike to the deliberate dumbing down of language standards in education, John and Joe expose the left’s dangerous game of deception, denial, and destruction. You’ll hear the breakdown of a viral exchange between NYC mayoral hopeful Zoran Mondami and a reporter who calls out his 50% tax increase lie, followed by a sharp critique of the racist undercurrents in “anti-standard English” education initiatives.
But that’s just the start. The duo tackles Biden’s head-scratching logic behind stepping down, ICE deportations framed by left-wing sob stories, and how government overreach crushed a 15-year-old entrepreneur selling worms. Plus, John issues a bold call to action for pastors: stop being cowards, stand your ground, and speak the truth from the pulpit—tax status be damned. If you're tired of the lies, the silence, and the spinelessness, this episode is your wake-up call.
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right, hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Jersey Joe joining us. What's up, Joe?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, John, I've got so much to go over today. We're not going to get it all in, but let's start with an update on New York City. Okay. And first, before you listen, a little update, Matt. This is... The leading candidate, Zorhan Mondami, and by the way, a poll came out today where they ranked all the candidates, and he had 38%, so way below 50, but still he has the plurality. Cuomo came in at about 32%, Eric Adams only 11%, and then there's the Republican, the guardian angel guy, Curtis Sliwa. So clearly, if Sliwa and Adams dropped out, And those votes went to Cuomo, who I don't like, but I like him better than Mondami. Cuomo would probably beat Mondami, but knowing the stubbornness of those guys, Adams and Cuomo will probably stay in, making a lose-lose and catapulting Mondami to be the next mayor of New York. But I want to play—you've got the clip. I want to play a little clip of Mondami either demonstrating his ignorance or intensely trying to deceive people. And a little background— John, if something was $4 and I increased it to $6, is that a 2% increase or is that a 50% increase?
SPEAKER 11 :
50% increase.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. So what he's saying, what he's trying to tell this interviewer is that, well, we're only going to bump at 2%. Well, it is 4%. It's 3.89%. It's called at 4%. He wants to bump the tax on people making over a million dollars from what is essentially 4% today to 6% if he gets elected. And not on the income over a million, retroactive to $1. So what he's saying is, hey, if you're going to make over a million dollars, we're going to bump your tax rate, round it up to 4%, from 4% to 6%. That's a 50% increase in their effective tax rate. And here's the interviewer calling him out. And we don't need to play the whole thing, maybe just the first 30 seconds. Okay, here we go.
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And I know that takes effect with people right now, that top rate of people 50,000 or more. So if you're going to be adding 2% to people at a million, I just did the math, right? Well, that's going to be an increase of 51% of what they pay now. I'm not saying cry for them. I'm saying if they leave, you're not going to get that money. And when you increase someone's taxes by 51%, aren't a lot of people going to leave? We're saying we're increasing it by 2%.
SPEAKER 11 :
Actually, no, Zoran. That's not. Okay. So what about that guy?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. No, we're only going to know. And he stops her. She is correctly saying you're increasing your taxes by 51%. And they're going to leave. And he says, no, we're only increasing it by 2%. No, you're increasing it by 2 percentage points, which is a 50% increase in the percentage itself. Right. You're going from essentially 4% to 6%. And he can't be that stupid, Joe. then he's knowingly pushing a lie.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would say it's the latter. I mean, nobody that understands math, even in its basic form, would believe what he's saying, including himself.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. And I could say, okay, you want to bump it from 4% to 6% on any dollar over a million, but no, if you make over a million, it's like a tipping bucket. Once you make over a million, we're going to apply that 6% rate retroactively to $1. So it's not just on the incremental.
SPEAKER 11 :
Meaning anybody that's in that bracket is going to go do something else.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, like move to New Jersey, move to Connecticut, or move to Florida. Which, by the way, we're just moved. And these people never read the fable of the goose that laid the golden egg. Money is fungible. California has seen the exodus. New York already started this. I think California and New York for the past couple of years have been in the top five in terms of net loss of population.
SPEAKER 11 :
I believe you're correct, yes.
SPEAKER 18 :
And by the way, California, that net loss of population includes, that's net of illegal immigration.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
So despite all the illegal, and of course the people who are moving are the people who can afford to move. And these are based on United Van Life.
SPEAKER 11 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 18 :
Great point. You know, so, and that's what happened in Baltimore. Anybody who could leave did leave. And you're seeing that in California, and you're going to see it – what has been a trickle out of New York, John, I think is going to become a flood out of New York City.
SPEAKER 11 :
And part of that, Joe – and bear with me for a moment. I talked a little bit about this with Jordan Goodman the other day because I read an article. I don't remember what day. I read stuff all the time, as you know. But I read something here recently whereby – I wouldn't tell you, and I wouldn't be shocked, that some of this is planned. In other words, people think, well, you know, people are going to exodus. Okay. Or they're going to exit. I mean, there's going to be an exodus of people. Yeah, and I don't think, Joe, that some of these people are worried about that. In fact, I think some of this is part of a larger plan, and bear with me, because they know that if these people go to places like Colorado and Texas and Florida and even some of the red states that surround Florida, some of those other areas, the reality is those now start to change into what they left because they take their policies with them, as you know. Rarely do they leave and go change where, you know, and change what's going on in that particular area. In other words, they're going to bring their own policies with them. They're not going to abide by the policies that are already there. So I'm not so sure, Joe, that some of this isn't by design.
SPEAKER 18 :
It could be. And by the way, people say, well, Texas will never go red. Texas is starting to turn blue and it's primarily in the college towns. You go to places like Austin. That's right. And those, if you look at the presidential motor grant, those college towns in Texas, they are solid blue already, and you don't need... That's right. And if we lose Texas, John, we've lost the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right. You're done. You're done. Exactly. Anyways, again, these sorts of things bother me because some would say, well, you know, it's fine, just let them leave. Well, not so fast, because frankly, I want them staying where they're at, because I want their progressive ideals to be right there now. It's already blue, leave them there.
SPEAKER 18 :
Already blue, leave them there. Well... But unfortunately, John, I think if this guy gets elected and implements what he wants to do... Oh, he'll push him out. He'll push him out. That's right. And some of them probably wind up being my neighbors.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right. I want to go on to a John Stossel clip. And by the way, one of the people he's interviewing is a black professor. And the reason I want to point out his race is because it's important to the context of the story. Now... You know, we all know what a dialect is. People from Jamaica, they speak English, but they have a Jamaican dialect. And in a lot of our big cities, blue cities, we have, you know, like an inner city dialect. And, of course, the job of a good teacher is to teach people proper grammar and proper English. Because if you want to get any sort of a job where you have any interaction with the public, you know, I don't care if you're an HVAC technician or a customer service rep or even a clerk in a retail store. An employer is going to look at you, and one of the things they're going to evaluate is your communication skills, your language skills. That's right. So there's a movement among the left that says teaching, attempting to teach people of color proper English grammar is racist. So can we play this clip? Yeah, I'll play it. Here we go. What made you think something was wrong?
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, I thought something was wrong for a while. I didn't realize how wrong it was until 2019 when a keynote address at the primary conference for my field, College Composition and Communication,
SPEAKER 10 :
melt the steel bars of racism and white language supremacy.
SPEAKER 22 :
The keynote argued that, among other things, teaching standard English to students of color, particularly black students, is inherently racist.
SPEAKER 10 :
If you use a single standard to grade your students' languaging, you engage in racism.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's racist to teach black kids standard English. That perpetuates white supremacy. Yes, that's the idea.
SPEAKER 22 :
And even the presence of white professors is a problem. That does some kind of psychic harm to students of color. So I heard that, thought it was a bit misguided. and said so on a listserv in my field, the Writing Program Administrator's Listserv. I put it out there basically in a long-form way, asking, is this really a good idea? Is this the best way to go about this? And what ensued was hardly a conversation. It was more like a social media mobbing session.
SPEAKER 06 :
Instead of a discussion, people called you racist. Do you enjoy using Western modes of argument to invalidate people of color? Check your privilege. Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, that old chestnut. Check your privilege.
SPEAKER 11 :
I've got to stop it there, Joe, because we could keep going. And I've got a story that I want to add to that because I've talked about this one on air, but I want to add it because it's the perfect timing in regards to what you're saying. So you know me. I'm one of those guys, Joe. I talk to everybody. So we were in Cabo, I don't know, probably, I don't know, six, eight months ago, whatever, one of the past trips down there, and met a gentleman there, really nice, younger kid, by the way, and kind of caught up in a conversation and just talking to him. And I realized that this is a guy that I can tell is local. You can just tell by the way he looked and talked. And when somebody from the native tongue, Mexico, would come up, he'd have that all dialed in, and he would speak exactly the way he needed to in Spanish. But yet, coming back and speaking to my wife and I, it's like perfect English. No accent even, Joe. I'm not joking. No accent. And I'm like, okay, time out. I said, I don't normally ask this, but I have to. I said, number one, where did you learn to speak English, A, as fluently as you do, and not have any accent whatsoever? Joe, if I put him on the radio, you would not have known he was a native-born Mexican. Actually, he was born down in even further south coast. His dad, by the way, worked for a big pharma company, went all over the world. And the reason why he doesn't speak with any kind of an accent goes along the lines of what you and I are talking about. His dad... was so big on his, he's got a brother, he was so big on him being able to go anywhere in the world and speak English with no accent that not only did he have to learn English to perfection, he had to learn how to control his tongue properly where there would be no accent because to his dad, English is the number one language of the world and you need to know it in a way that anybody out there can hear you because if you're going to succeed in the world's economy, that's what you have to do.
SPEAKER 18 :
And in the U.S. economy, John. And by the way, and the guy they were calling racist that Stossel was in, he's a black man. He's a black man, right. He's a black man. They were calling him a racist.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 18 :
Check your privilege.
SPEAKER 11 :
The point being is, you know, if you really, to the point of that whole video, if you're going to succeed, English is something worldwide, and Joe, you know it's a worldwide language because of flying and all sorts of other things, but there's but probably a few places in the world where you can't get by with English.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right. And the speaker at the keynote speaker, he was basically arguing that schools should should have a different grading system for black kids. And parents, if you're listening to this, if any of your school districts want to suggest that black students get graded differently, either on written compositions, or oral or speaking, I urge you to fight that like hell.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, because that's racism in and of itself, Joe. You're basically saying that they don't have to achieve to the same level everybody else does. You're basically putting them down.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're putting them down.
SPEAKER 11 :
They're not smart enough to do it, is what you're really saying.
SPEAKER 18 :
You're not smart enough to do it, and we're going to compensate for them. Yep. Bunch of garbage. We're going to compensate. So, parents, if anybody in your school board wants to suggest a two-tiered, you know, grammar scoring system that, You know, black kids don't have to have the same writing and composition skills or grammatical skills as other students. By the way, Asian students, John, don't seem to have any trouble mastering the English language. Nope.
SPEAKER 11 :
Nope. Well, like I said, the gentleman that I was talking to that, by the way, doesn't live in America, he actually lives in San Jose, Cabo, down there. And I'll tell you, Joe, that listening to him, it's like, yeah, this family got it. They understand exactly how this works.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yep. It's the language of the world, and in our country, John, it's the language of business in our country. That's right. If you want a job that has any contact with not only customers, but even with coworkers, you better be able to speak, you know, have good grammar skills. Do we have time to play the Biden clip?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we can do it. You want to do it now?
SPEAKER 18 :
Two things. I want you to listen. One, he's explaining, yeah, I could have won the election, and then he gives this ridiculous logic of, Why he dropped out, it's completely illogical. And there's a commentator who will jump in. So let's play this clip of Biden saying I would have won the election.
SPEAKER 07 :
He shouldn't have stepped down.
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Knowing what you know now, do you think you would have beat him?
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Yeah, he's still got seven million fewer votes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK. A lot of people didn't show up. Number one. Number one. Number two. The. They're very close in those toss-up states. It wasn't a slam dunk.
SPEAKER 07 :
None of this makes sense. If you thought you could have beaten him, why'd you step down? If you knew Kamala would lose, why'd you step down?
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You served under Barack Obama, George Clooney, a longtime supporter of yours, major Democratic donor. Chuck Schumer, your dear friend Nancy Pelosi, also had expressed concerns about your ability to do the job for four more years. Can I ask what your relationship is with President Obama and how you address those concerns that they raised?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, look, I think that... The only reason I got out of the race was because I didn't want to have a divided Democratic Party. It was a simple proposition. And so that's why I got out of the race. I thought it was better to put the country ahead of my interest, my personal interest. I'm not being facetious. I'm being deadly earnest about that.
SPEAKER 07 :
If Biden knew Kamala was going to lose and he knew he was going to win, how was that putting country above party?
SPEAKER 11 :
Great question, by the way, Joe.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Great question.
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You know, does he believe this? Is he delusional? And clearly his explanation makes makes no sense as to why he dropped out. But, you know, So this is further evidence that, you know, Biden was not. And by the way, his doctor today or yesterday taking the Fifth Amendment, you know, somebody saying, well, it's HIPAA. He couldn't he couldn't discuss Biden's mental condition was the question. The question was asked to him, did anybody ask you to lie about Biden's condition? Now, that's a yes or no question that doesn't have to reveal anything about. Does Biden, did Biden have a condition? It's simply, did anybody ask you to lie? You can answer that question without violating your Hippocratic Oath. Because you're not acknowledging, did he or did he have a condition? You're simply saying, did anybody ask you to lie? And he took the Fifth Amendment. about whether or not anybody asked him to lie about Biden's health.
SPEAKER 11 :
You could hear, I mean, I forgot how bad it was listening to him talk the entire four years he was there. I don't know how I could, you know, miss that, Joe. But the reality is, listening to him speak, there's no way that guy could have run and won, period. He's doing good to remember a sentence, nonetheless, you know, continue to run the country.
SPEAKER 18 :
Right, and I think we played the clip a couple months ago when they finally released the Robert Herr clip of his interview when they were considering prosecuting him for the classified documents. And where he was asked a simple question, and he went on this long, shaggy dog story that had nothing to do with the actual question. He forgot the question.
SPEAKER 11 :
I am not missing those at all, Joe. None.
SPEAKER 18 :
Not missing those at all. Hey, a couple of quick things. You hear about the kid in Wisconsin opened a bait shop?
SPEAKER 11 :
I did not, no.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, Wisconsin, 15-year-old farm kid. His parents have a farm, and it's on a road that takes you to a lake where a lot of people go fishing. And the kid's a hustler, and he's got two side jobs and after-school jobs, but he sees all these people driving by the farm to go fishing, so he, with his own money, gets some timbers and whatnot, builds a little shed on timbers where you could hook it up to the tractor and drag it down and he decides he's going to, and he raises worms, and they've got a greenhouse, and you get this, and you can literally raise worms. So he decides he's going to sell worms, fish hooks, and as long as he's out there, you know, cold water, you know, and cold water and soda, right? Because people are going to go fishing, and they're going to drive right by. Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Why not?
SPEAKER 18 :
He's right. Two weeks in business, he gets a certified letter from the County Zoning Commission saying, You're in violation of our zoning codes. If you don't take it down in 10 days, we're going to start fining you so many hundred dollars a day.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know what I would have told them? Go for it. Pound sand. Pound sand. That's what I would have said.
SPEAKER 18 :
Talk about government overreach, Sean. Does government really need to be shutting down? No. And it's only going to be there for, what, 10, 12 weeks of summer?
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And he's providing a service to people that are driving by, let the kid alone. In fact, we need more of them so they'll go out and do more of that as they get older. Encourage him to do that. They should have been sending him a thank you letter.
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Yeah, he should have been getting a civic award, entrepreneurial spirit. But no, the bureaucracy had to crush this kid, entrepreneurial spirit.
SPEAKER 11 :
Unbelievable. Unbelievable, Joe.
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All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Always good, Joe. Appreciate you, man, very much. Thanks for all your wisdom.
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All right. Talk to you next week.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. This is an article I was going to try to talk about yesterday. Charlie sent me a couple of days ago, but I didn't get a chance to get to it, so I thought I'd squeeze it in today. IRS. says churches whose pastors endorse candidates from the pulpit shouldn't, not should, but shouldn't lose their tax-exempt status, which, by the way, I always remind any time I've ever sat on a board, because it's always something that comes up inside of churches and nonprofits and so on, where, you know, well, I can't do this, I can't do that, we can't do this, we can't do that, because if we do, we're liable to lose our 501c3 status, which, by the way, has never happened. I don't think there's, to my knowledge, if somebody wants to correct me and go find it, be my guest, but to my knowledge, the IRS has never taken anybody's 501c3 status away as far as a church goes from somebody from the pulpit endorsing a candidate. It's a total misconception. And unfortunately, churches have spent, in my opinion, far too much time, energy, and effort listening to that nonsense and rearranging what they do, even inside of the church at times, to not support certain causes and certain candidates that they should be endorsing, by the way. That's my opinion. And I think—I'll just be straight up honest—I think it's why— We have some of the issues we have today, some of the good versus evil when it comes to the two different political parties that are out there. I think it's partially why we have that today, because the church hasn't stood its ground like it should have over the years. Far too many pastors have bought into, I should say, this whole idea that if I endorse somebody from the pulpit, then we're going to lose our status, or I might lose a member, or I might do this, or I might do that. Who cares? Who cares? I mean, at some point, you've got to stand some ground. And if you feel strongly about a particular issue, a particular candidate, a particular person even running in your local town, running for city council, running for whatever, then you should be pushing for that particular candidate to win. And frankly, this has come back to bite a lot of churches. There's a lot of churches, a lot of organizations around, and I've been involved with some of these, whereby they try to go and expand or they try to do this or they try to do that. And their local city council or whatever it happens to be, you know, county commissioners will shut that idea down, frankly, because you've got a bunch of liberals that are on there that don't want to see the church there at all. I have been told on more than one occasion by city officials that I have met one-on-one with that, yeah, you know what, if we didn't have any churches here, we wouldn't care. Or if we didn't have any Christian schools in this area, we wouldn't care. If we didn't have any charter schools in this area, we wouldn't care. I've literally, folks, I have been told that by city officials. I can give you almost the day and the time that it actually happened. So, yes, cities will say that. Now, they're not supposed to, but they do. They let their feelings be pretty well known. Now, here's my point with this. If churches did a better job, even locally, of letting their parishioners know who they should and shouldn't vote for, would they have some of the kickback that they get at times along the lines of what I just said? No, they wouldn't, because those people would have never gotten elected in the first place. You could have pushed for better people being on city council, school boards, and the like. But no, we've rolled over. I say we, the church. The church rolled over. We can't lose that tax exempt status. Well, now look what you got. Now look what you have. Look what happened during COVID. Very few churches even stayed open because they just rolled over to what government said that, you know, you guys aren't allowed to meet. That social distancing won't work. You can't meet anymore. And far too many churches just said, okay, well, you know, we'll do these televised home services and off you go. And the reality is church attendance hasn't been as strong as it was prior to COVID because. Churches can be their own worst enemy at times, by the way. So there's an article. This is CBS News, by the way. This isn't some fly-by-night sideline website that Charlie pulled up. No, this is CBS News talking about some of the lawsuits and different things that have happened where the IRS has been sued by certain organizations that want to endorse candidates. Good for them, by the way. In fact, I believe it's even the National Religious Broadcasters Association that was a part of one of these lawsuits. Imagine that. Radio. Radio. By the way, Christian radio being stronger than churches. Sorry, but that's the way it is. There's also been, of course, some evangelical consortiums and some others, but no individual church. These are typically media associations and so on that have gone after the IRS saying, yeah, you can't do this, folks. You can't threaten to take away churches 501c3 statuses because they endorse a candidate. And the IRS agrees. It's the Johnson Amendment, by the way, is the U.S. tax code that prohibits tax-exempt organizations, including churches, from endorsing or opposing political candidates. It's a bunch of nonsense, by the way. It's a bunch of garbage. Yeah, Charlie's in my ear saying black churches always have. And yeah, no repercussions. And by the way, they should. There should be no reason why they can't. They have freedom of speech. They should be able to say whatever they want to. Just because you're a 501c3 doesn't mean your tongue is tied from this point forward. It's a bunch of crap. The problem is, and where the real crap is, is that churches have abided by that. They have listened to that nonsense. Again, folks, I can tell you, I've sat in board meetings. for churches and nonprofits where this subject comes up, and they'll say something to the effect, well, we can't do, you know, you bring something up or somebody brings something up, and somebody will say, well, we can't do that. We might lose our 501c3 status. And I immediately would say, you know, that's never happened yet. No one's ever lost it yet. Well, we don't want to be the first. That's always the comment that comes back, by the way. We don't want to be the first. Really? Really? You guys are that much of a bunch of wet noodles that that's going to be your answer? And by the way, that's my answer back typically. So we're going to be the wet noodles that say, yeah, we don't want to be first. What a bunch of garbage. And I'd say it just like that. Needless to say, I'm not always the most popular guy on board meetings or in board meetings. And sometimes don't get voted back on boards because that's what I do. That's how I talk. I don't care. Those sorts of things drive me crazy. So we're going to allow government to tell us what to do as a church, basically, is what you're saying. And that's what I would say back to these people that would sit in these board meetings. So we're going to let government tell us what to do. Well, we don't have a choice. Yeah, we do. Stand up for once. I mean, I would leave some of those board meetings at times just spitting mad because of that type of a mentality. Drove me crazy. Let's just say that I have a much better voice here and I don't have anybody with their thumb on me here telling me that I can't say or do something, which I'm very thankful for. Now, granted, we are not a 501c3. If we were, I'd still say it. Wouldn't matter to me. I wouldn't care. Far too long, we have allowed government and this fear of if we say something, we might lose our status. By the way, the left doesn't ever worry about that. They're, quote, unquote, charitable. Granted, there's not a lot on the left because they don't do charity very well. But the charitable organizations that are on the left, it never bothers them to endorse candidates, to speak up about it, to be public about it. Never hurts their feelings at all. They are more than willing to do that. Doesn't matter. Why doesn't our side do more of that is my question. So for those of you that are listening, and I know we have a lot of churchmen and pastors and so on that listen in, you've got to be more bold. You've got to start standing up. If you feel like there is a candidate worth endorsing and that it would change, again, even a local candidate, especially a local candidate, whereby you know that somebody running could have a huge impact upon your church or your organization, you should be doing every single thing possible to make sure that person gets defeated. I don't know why we don't do that in those organizations, folks. I would love for somebody to tell me why we don't. Well, I already know why we don't. Because there's not enough guys and gals with backbone in churches to stand up and do it. I'm sorry to say there just isn't. They'll bow the knee, if you would, to quote-unquote government. I'm always one of those where it's like, yeah, no, we're not doing that. We're going to do what we need to do, regardless of those guys. But unfortunately, there's not enough of the mentality that I have in most church boards and so on. Most church board guys and gals are far too nice. Let's just say it that way. Far too nice. You know, the other thing that happens inside of church is not to go off on a tangent, but they're a lot like government. Once you start something, it never ends. Once that committee gets started, it never ends. Once we do this, it never ends. We've always done it this way. That mentality permeates a lot of organizations, churches included. We've always done it this way. I don't care. Change it. Stop. If it's not working, why keep doing it? Well, you know, Mary Beth so-and-so has always done such-and-such. I don't care. Who cares? Like, that matters. As you guys can tell, I'm not always the most popular person around when it comes to certain organizations because I don't care if we've always done it that way. If it isn't working, change it. That's kind of the Elon Musk side of me, I guess you could say, and where I understand his frustration at times because he wants to go to the federal, you know, he wants to go to D.C. and make all kind of changes, which I can't blame him for. I would, too, if I was him. Unfortunately, it's not that easy. And while I respect the man greatly, the one area that I think he's very misguided in is his politics because he thinks things should just go that way. And we talked about that during the three o'clock hour with Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House. It doesn't work that way. I wish it did, but it doesn't, unfortunately. The wheels of government churn really slowly, and sometimes we want it that way, by the way, because some things you don't want to be able to change that quickly, and you shouldn't have one man walking in and making those changes. That's not what we want as a government either. I also, though, believe that sometimes we allow those wheels of motion to slow things down to the point to where nothing happens. That's not good either. Somewhere there's got to be a halfway point where we get things done, get it done quickly, make the changes necessary, and then move on. But again, there's opposing parties and all sorts of other things that you have to do to make things happen. That's why there's a lot of frustration over the big, beautiful bill. And some people wanted a lot more to be done inside of it. I was as well. I would love to have seen more cuts. I would love to have seen us not have to do anything with the debt ceiling because we have our spending under control. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Got a couple of text messages in, by the way, on the topic I was just talking about. Pastors failing to relate to current politics is no different than people that preach you shouldn't talk about religion and politics in public. By the way, great text message, and you are 100% correct. None of that should be shied away from at all. And let me read a couple more here really quick. Oh, big storms, by the way, up in southeast Wyoming. So if you're up in that area and I know our signal goes all the way up into that area, yes, be very careful in those areas and be watching for that. And the storms that have passed through our area are now gone, but they, as you guys all know, move on. So, yes, be very vigilant in looking out and watching for the weather and reports and all of that while you're out and about. So thank you, by the way, for those text messages and the updates. I appreciate that greatly. All right. Another question. Article, I guess you could say that I read this week. And you're going to see more and more of these. And what these articles are, and this one happened to be in 19th, whatever. I mean, I get Apple News, and so they consolidate a lot of the news into one feed, which I appreciate because it helps me out immensely in my role here. This is an article that says she was a rising senior on the honor roll, but ICE just upended her life. So it's a whole article about a particular young lady. Her name was Nori Ramos. She stepped off of a flight from San Antonio into a country she hardly recognized. She was from Guatemala. And it's this big sob story. And, again, my heart goes out to people on an ongoing basis. I don't want to sound like I'm that calloused. And I understand, you know, some of the – in this particular situation, this young lady, it's not her fault. She's 17 years of age. She's been here since she was, I believe, about seven because she's been here 10 years with her mom. So I get it. You've grown up here since you were seven years of age. You're probably planning on staying. And I get all of that. Now, what I don't understand, though – and this is where I struggle with some of this, and you guys already probably know what I'm going to say. They've been here 10 years. You've been here 10 years, and you didn't do anything to become either a permanent resident through green cards or whatever – Or even a citizen. That part is so confusing to me. You've had 10 years. And I get it. It's an arduous, arduous process to become a permanent, you know, to become a citizen. Even a permanent residency can be difficult. I understand that. But you've been here 10 years. Now, what happened here is they were going to check in. They had one of their immigration meetings, I guess you could say. And while they were there, these are both undocumented individuals, so they're illegal aliens, her and her mother. They went into a June 30th check-in. ICE took them to a room and basically said, yep, you're not staying. You're going back home. And again, especially for this young lady, my heart goes out to her. She was an honor student. She wasn't a bad kid. She's not running around getting into trouble and causing problems and all of that. And for that, I appreciate that. And again, my heart does go out to her on a personal basis. But then I also have to ask the question, especially to her mom, Why didn't you do something about this? Sounds like you're good people. Sounds like you were being productive while you were here. Your kids on the honor roll. I mean, they're not bad people. Why are you not going through the process to become permanent? This young lady thought she would never, ever have to go back to Guatemala. I get that. I probably would be the same way coming over here when you're seven years of age. But that doesn't change the fact that you never went through the process to become, quote-unquote, documented, either becoming a citizen or getting your legal status by going through all the proper channels and so on. And that's the part that I struggle with. with some of this is is it just because they thought they never had to it was just sort of i've been here this long what are they going to do now you know they can't do anything about it because they've been here so long i mean is that the mentality that starts to happen because there's been no quote-unquote enforcement up to this point that they just think i'll just stay and folks i don't know the answer i'm throwing this out to you all because i don't know the answer i don't know what goes through their mind i mean evidently that's what they're thinking or they wouldn't stay well They're not all staying. And again, there's probably more to this whole story than I know. I read the majority of the story. I didn't read every single thing because I highlighted a lot of things that were in here because all of these stories, which as a side note, this doesn't exist. And maybe I should invent this myself. I need to get with somebody. So if somebody out there listening would love to team up with me and figure out a way to do this, I'm all in. I would figure out a way to invest and do this. I want a program. whereby I can feed an entire article like this into it and just give me the facts. I don't want all of the fluff. All writers, and I love them, writers are good, they serve a purpose, but they all fill in stories with fluff. I don't need the fluff. I don't need all of the other nonsense that goes along with the story. I just want the facts. Why are they here? How long have they been here? Why didn't they go through the process of becoming legal? I just want the facts. I don't want all of the fluff. I wish there were a program. And this, by the way, this is for all stories because all writers do this. Because, you know, I think, Charlie, what, don't they get counted on how many words they put into the article? Or I don't know, there's requirements probably on how many words it has to have and so on and so forth. And it's just how they're taught to do things. You know, if they can turn one sentence that would normally be 10 words into 100 words, that's what they do. And for me, as somebody that relies on pulling in factual data, I just need the data. I don't need all the fluff. So if there's anybody out there that has any ideas on how that works or if you know of a program that exists, by all means, please let me know. I would grab that, feed it into another program. I would pay for a program monthly that would do that for me so that I don't have to read the fluff and cycle through it because it's just utterly – I'm not joking. There are some of these articles that I will go through and read where literally I can take several pages and condense it down to a page. of actual information. So, side note, there's a lot of fluff in this particular article, like there is in all of them, so no, I don't read every single word, because if I did, I'd never get anything else done. At any rate, this article talks about how ICE even targets juveniles at times, and this, that, and the other, which, by the way, has nothing to do with this particular story, because they weren't being targeted at all. They were coming in for their normal, regular visit, I guess you could say, and evidently ICE was there, and they're not. They're not here anymore. So, again, I'll say it one more time. Yes, I get their plight. I understand. I'm all ears. But I just have to ask why. Why in 10 years, in a decade? Have you not gone through the process? And there are people out there, by the way, there are organizations out there that will help people like this, especially in a mother-daughter situation like this, that will help them get legal. Why didn't they? Why didn't they? Now, they even had other family members and stuff telling them that, yeah, you know, don't worry about it. It's not a big deal. You're going to be fine. No reason to do anything. On and on we go. Well, yeah, bad advice. Bad advice, because that's not how this turned out. So I don't know exactly what will happen to them next, if they'll be able to come back through in a different way. I don't know. My point is you're going to read more and more of these sob stories because this is what the left wants you to read. This is what they want you to see. Now, the other thing you're not going to hear from the left is all of the really, truly bad people that shouldn't have been here in the first place, period. that are now being deported, they're no longer here, you're not getting those stories. The left isn't going to feed those to you. The criminals, the people that have come here that have committed crimes and so on, you're not going to hear those stories. The left isn't giving you those. And most of what we read, publication-wise, is from the left. There's only but a few conservative places out there that you can actually get any kind of news and information from. Most of it is from the left. Now, I read a lot from the left. On purpose. I want to see what they have to say. These types of articles, yes, I read them. Why? Because I want to know what they have to say. And then in this case, I can, you know, dissect it and actually say, okay, I get it. I get what's going on here, but that doesn't excuse the fact that you had 10 years to get this fixed and you didn't. That's on you. There has to be some form of personal responsibility in this, and we're sort of waving this wand of, no, you don't need that. Yeah, you do. We are a country of laws. We all have to abide by the law. Why don't they? So, all right, let's take our last break here. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith, who when it comes to the financial future, your financial future, I should say, and what you're looking at doing and how to get to retirement, how to stay there, making sure you're doing things correctly. Are you planning correctly? Do you have a plan? How close are you tracking on your plan? Al can help you with all of that. klzradio.com is where you find him, or you can call direct 303-744-1128.
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All right, so that last article, when I got several messages, by the way, that came in on that agreeing with everything I said, so thank you for that, by the way. But then also somebody said, well, so what, you need a program that will do like cliff notes on these things? And I said, you know, yeah, but then I came up with an idea. I'm like, let me just feed this into AI and see what happens. So I did, and through the break I read the cliff note version of that whole article of – what i scanned through and i'll be quite honest what chat gpt just funneled back out is the exact same things that i basically went through and told all of you that i'm going to start using it a little bit more and see now i will say this there are some things in the article that i read and brought to your attention that didn't come up in the chat gpt summary so it's not perfect But probably the more I play with it and the more I use it, the more it will learn what I'm actually looking for, and I will probably be able to use that in that way. So I'll let you guys know how that turns out here in the next few weeks as I continue to play around with it and use it. All right, tomorrow. We have got movies, of course. Andy will be here tomorrow. Heads of State and Superman. And then Movie Rental Hour tomorrow will be Best Bad Guys. And it can be guys or gals. So Best Bad Guys and Movies, that'll be tomorrow. Have a great night. We'll see you tomorrow. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
As fiscal challenges loom over Capitol Hill, the episode highlights ongoing budgetary debates with Congressman Chuck Fleischman. Explore the hurdles Congress faces with less than two dozen legislative days left, addressing the potential need for continuing resolutions to maintain government functionality. Meanwhile, examine China's covert exertion of influence in the U.S., threatening both economic integrity and human rights. The conversation touches on the crucial intersection of policy and faith, demonstrated through the activities of the Family Research Council and its efforts to defend fundamental societal values.
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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My administration is committed to strengthening our friendships in Africa through economic development efforts that benefit both the United States and our partners. And we're shifting from AID to trade.
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That was President Donald Trump yesterday in a White House meeting with leaders from five African nations. Welcome to this July 10th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up, could replacing aid with trade be the answer to prayer for African leaders who have repeatedly voiced disdain for the LGBTQ conditions often tied to U.S. foreign assistance? We'll explore that question in depth with New Jersey Congressman Chris Smith, who'll join me here in studio. The Trump administration has already signaled its commitment to rolling back anti-family policies in foreign aid. In the rescissions package submitted to Congress, the administration proposed reductions to PEPFAR, the president's emergency plan for AIDS relief, removing funding used to promote abortion and LGBTQ agendas. But here's the twist. It's not Democrats trying to reverse it. It's Senate Republicans.
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For my part, I believe it needs some significant changes. For example, I want to strike the rescissions of funds for PEPFAR. I can't imagine why we would want to terminate that program.
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Well, we'll tell you why. That was Maine Senator Susan Collins. We'll unpack the debate with FRC's Arielle Del Turco and Senior Congressional Analyst for the Washington Stand, Mark Tapscott. Also ahead, after six months of work, Congress passed the reconciliation bill that is focused on last year's budget. But with fewer than two dozen legislative days left in the House before the fiscal year ends, what about this coming year's budget? Will the government be funded in time? We'll ask Tennessee Congressman and House Appropriations Committee member Chuck Fleischman later here on Washington Watch. And finally, the death toll from last week's devastating flood in Texas has climbed to at least 120. A little bit later, we'll be joined by HUD Secretary Scott Turner, who led members of the President Trump's cabinet earlier this week in prayer for the families impacted by that devastating flood. All of that and more ahead on this edition of Washington Watch. Well, leaders from five African nations are in Washington, D.C. this week for a three-day mini summit hosted by President Trump and his administration aimed at strengthening commercial ties between the U.S. and Africa. President Trump said he wants to exchange trade for aid. Joining me now to discuss this and more is Congressman Chris Smith, senior member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, chairman of the subcommittee on Africa and co-chairman of the Congressional Executive Commission on China. He represents New Jersey's 4th Congressional District. Congressman Smith, welcome back to Washington Watch.
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Thank you very much. Great to see you again.
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Thanks for joining us here in studio. Now, it may not be clear exactly from what President Trump's comments were, but the suggestion he wants to trade aid for trade or exchange trade for aid, I would think is a welcome sign to many of these African country leaders who have been, these liberal policies out of the State Department have been imposed upon them.
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There's so many nefarious promotions of abortion, LGBTQ, by NGOs, many of them from the United States and the European Union and elsewhere. And they build up a local capacity among African countries with like-minded ultra-leftists. And it's a very, very... dangerous situation for the morality as well as the health and well-being of people in these countries. Trade, you know, I'm a big promoter of Power Africa to help them matriculate from a very dearth of capability to run machines to run their hospitals. I mean, power and the climate change folks have made that even harder for them to build up that capacity. So what we're saying is that a lot of countries want trade. They want to raise the middle class, which can happen. But so long as the NGOs and the vast industrial complex of NGOs, as our Secretary of State said in a recent statement, it carries with it.
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a whole lot of baggage. Isn't that something similar to what we've seen domestically, where instead of empowering people, like we saw in the last Trump administration, helping people to create jobs and opportunities, rather than keeping them dependent upon the government?
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It's a great Great point. I do think we need to ensure that where there's refugees, like we're seeing in DR Congo, and certainly as a result of the fighting that's been going on there, we need to be first and foremost in providing humanitarian aid. But when it comes to the everyday, you know, what are we doing vis-a-vis name the country in Africa or elsewhere, we should be saying, how do you develop that middle class and entrepreneurs and people that can create jobs?
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Let me give you a prime example of something you've led on. I've mentioned it. We're going to talk about it later in the program, so I don't want to get too deep into it, but PEPFAR. That program started in 2003. That's right. It's been around for 25 years, and it's just grown. I mean, I think we're over $125 billion that it's been. It was called an emergency plan, but it's still there.
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That's right. No, when it was first proposed, Henry Hynde was the prime author of it. And, of course, George W. Bush was behind it completely. But the problem is that all of a sudden it went from abstinence and the big emphasis on being faithful as a way of mitigating the pandemic. I remember those debates. I was here. Now they're promoting philosophies that are antithetical to everything we believe in.
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It's been traced to funding abortion. That's right.
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No doubt about it. And Biden hijacked PEPFAR, put out guidance, as he called it, that said every recipient of funds need to change the laws in their country that they're operating on, on sexual and reproductive health and rights. That's abortion and the entirety of the LGBT agenda.
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So is that not an example of what's happened with our foreign policy?
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Yes, it has been hijacked by the leftists. You know, we should have a humanitarian core, you know, And Rubio has talked about the America First project, and that's where the funding from USAID will now go over to. And we've got to make sure that it's really focused on humanitarianism.
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And it addresses emergency. It doesn't become a perpetual government program like PECC.
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Well, PEPFAR got up to about $6.7 to $7 billion. I asked the head of it, John de Gunnison, who ran it for the Biden administration. And I have to tell you, he's still, he's a deputy. He's still in the mix in this administration in running this. I met with him with my wife, Marie, for two hours. Asked him, what are they doing on abortion? What are they doing on all these issues like the LGBTQ? He said, I don't know. I'm at 10,000 feet. I don't know what's going on in the ground. I have asked repeatedly to say, what are they doing with taxpayer monies? And we get critics.
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So the Trump administration and the recisions has cut not the treatment. They're leaving money in there to help those to still deal with those issues. But cutting out the NGOs that are promoting these woke ideologies of abortion.
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That's right.
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But the Senate wants to put it back in.
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Senate Republicans want to put it back in. Why? I know. Well, Bush and Obama and Bono are pushing very hard for that. And I'm very disappointed in President Bush. I tried for eight years to get him to include the pro-life Mexico City policy for this entire program. I remember. And they wouldn't do it. I said, you know, Planned Parenthood and their ilk make a beeline for this massive amount of money. Then they integrate what is good, mother-to-child transmission drugs and the like, with...
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This is what is so good. I mean, the Trump administration is zeroing in on these issues. It's disruptive to the left, but he is zeroing in on it. And what's frustrating is you have same thing happened in the reconciliation bill where the Senate allowed the funding for Planned Parenthood, the reduction that was there for 10 years. They reduced it to one year. They took out the prohibition against funding transgenderism bill. trends into procedures. I'm not sure what's happening over there among Republicans in the Senate, but folks, I'm going to give you some homework later. We're going to talk about this when Arielle joins us about what you could do. Before we run out of time, Chris, we've got about four minutes left. You and I were on the Hill earlier this week speaking at a forum for China aid, Bob Fu, regarding religious and human rights persecution in China. You spoke, I spoke But there was a prime example of what the Chinese Communist Party is doing. I had just left. I think you had just left. But a man connected to the Chinese Communist Party was there and started an altercation.
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with Bob Foo's wife. Got too close, and that's something that they do very well. They put a camera right into your face. It's provocative. Provocateur is what this band was all about. And we got to realize, I mean, I haven't... This kind of thing happens in all of our districts as well. You know, they shout horrible things at you, get real close. That's not the Chinese. That's the leftists. But it's the same tactic, trying to provoke you to push you away. Then they claim that you have committed some kind of— And this is about intimidation.
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You know, Bob Fu, who's actually a senior fellow here at the Family Research Council as well, I'm an amazing man. He really is. His house, his home in Texas, targeted for three months a few years back. The Chinese Communist Party, I mean, they're trying to infiltrate our government at every level. They're stealing trade secrets. They're part of – we talked about this in the program this week – is the Department of Agriculture announcing that we're going to block China from buying agricultural land, especially those land near military installations. But there is an effort to intimidate Chinese Americans and silence them from speaking out about the abuses of the Chinese Communist Party.
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And there's a term, transnational repression. They're all over this country targeting the diaspora, especially the human rights activists. One of the ladies who works on the Hong Kong issue, Frances, she's got a million-dollar bounty on her head from Xi Jinping. And she's an amazingly heroic individual. Yeah, she was there. She was there speaking out boldly. We've got to get the FBI, we've got to get our country to do far more to end this repression where the long arm of Xi Jinping and his dictatorship ceases to intimidate or try to intimidate.
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I mean, I know when I was on the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, I was sanctioned by China.
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We do.
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Yeah, well, good. So I guess you and I both can't go into Walmart because that's pretty much everything from China is in Walmart. But that's their role to intimidate is to say if you say if you challenge them on their civil right, their human rights abuses. my focus, obviously, on the religious freedom issue, which is getting worse in China.
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By the day.
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It's not getting better. No, by the day. And American corporations, in many ways, have been facilitating this.
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They have enabled like no one else. Going back to Bill Clinton, when he delinked human rights from trade on May 26, 1994, And I have an op-ed that I wrote that's sitting on my website. I couldn't believe how he pandered, and that goes for his wife as well when she was Secretary of State, to enable these atrocities that are happening each and every day. And they don't raise human rights. But they do it in a very, very quiet way.
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In fairness, Republican administrations have not been aggressive in addressing this issue either. I agree. Because of the large economic opportunity in China and the cheap goods that come from China, you know, Trump's one of the first that's been willing to upset the apple carton.
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You know, we saw it during the Olympics. I had a hearing. We asked Coca-Cola and others. And they wouldn't say a thing about the genocide that the Chinese Communist Party was committing against the Uyghurs. A genocide in real time. And we might lose some market share.
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Well, I tell you, we're just about out of time here, Chris. But Americans, Christians, those that are concerned about this, can take action themselves by... looking at the products they buy and making sure they're not from China. I mean, that's what I do. It's hard. It's hard. When I shop on Amazon, I got to look very closely. And oftentimes they'll try to hide it. But we should use our dollars to speak for those who cannot speak. And that includes product from China. Chris Smith, always great to see you.
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Thanks for being here.
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Thank you. All right, folks, coming up next, we're going to take a look at what's next for Congress as they start working on a budget for next year. Do they have enough time? Will they get it done? Don't go away. We're back with more after this.
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The family is the oldest, most tested, and most reliable unit of society. It is divinely created and sustained. And yet, there are those who are always tampering with its values and structure. That's why we need organizations like the Family Research Council that can effectively defend and strengthen the family.
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Family Research Council began over 40 years ago, like all great movements of God, with prayer. Today, rooted in the heart of the nation's capital, FRC continues to champion faith, family, and freedom in public policy and the culture from a biblical worldview.
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FRC is one of those bright lights that helps us focus on true north. And I shudder to think had they not been here that it could have been worse, worse, worse.
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The Family Research Council is key. It's one of a handful of groups that I think will determine whether our children live in a country that enjoyed all of the freedom and all the opportunity that we enjoyed in this great land.
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It's just a wonderful parachurch organization that doesn't seek to take the place of the church, but it seeks to assist the family and the church as we try to move forward successfully, not in a defensive mode, but in an offensive mode as we seek to live our lives according to the Holy Scriptures.
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You will never see in front of this building here in Washington, D.C., a white flag flying. We will never step back. We will never surrender. And we will never be silent. Hello, friends, this is Tony Perkins. You know what? We just finished our 21 day family Bible challenge to the book of Matthew. And if you joined us, I pray that it has already borne fruit in your life and in your home as you place the Lord and his word at the center of your home. Now, our journey through the Bible doesn't end here, though. The challenge was a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. And from here, we're going to cover the rest of the New Testament. And now that we finished the book of Matthew, let me ask you, would you consider joining us for the rest of the journey through the Word of God? In 10 to 15 minutes a day, you'll see how the good news of Jesus transformed the lives of common people, people just like you and me, and how those same people transformed the known world through the power of the Holy Spirit. I invite you to continue the journey with me and discover the life enriching power of the Word of God. Visit FRC.org slash Bible for a reading plan. That's FRC.org slash Bible to learn more. Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. All right. If you do not have the Stand Firm app, let me encourage you to get the Stand Firm app. And you'll see why a little bit later when we discuss more about the PEPFAR and the rescissions bill. It just makes it easier for you to take action. That's one of the reasons we created the Stand Firm app. Not only does it have access to Washington Watch, The Washington Stand, our news and commentary from a biblical perspective, and my daily devotional, The Stand on the Word. But it has action items, and it makes it very easy for you to take action. Remember, our republic was not made for spectators. It was made for participants. So go to the App Store and get the Stand Firm app. All right. While passing the one big, beautiful bill may have been one of the biggest challenges facing this Congress, it took about six months. Well, it won't be the last challenge. The Congress now has to turn to the budgeting for the next fiscal year. Now, House Speaker Mike Johnson has long expressed his hope for restoring regular order. Now, what's regular order? Well, that's something we haven't seen probably in a couple of decades. That is passing the appropriations bills one by one. and passing them from the House to the Senate, the Senate and agreeing on them, sending them to the President, and those setting the policy and the spending. We've been seeing omnibus bills. We've been seeing continuing resolutions. What's ahead for this year? Just less than two weeks, less than 24 days of legislative days are left for the House in this session of, well, before the fiscal year ends. And will they have time to get this done? Joining me now to discuss this, Congressman Chuck Fleischman, who serves on the House Appropriations Committee and the Committee on Science, Space and Technology. Congressman, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you.
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Tony, it's always a pleasure. Thank you for what you and your show are doing. I appreciate all the kind accolades for my brothers and sisters in Congress who do what you want done. But it's an honor to be with you, sir.
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Well, thank you. It's always great to see you. Let's talk just for a moment. I touched on this, but there's been a real desire to get back to regular order. And this is important because you spend a lot of time on appropriations. And for the most part, it's almost been for naught.
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Well, Tony, thank you for raising that. I'm what we call a cardinal, a subcommittee chairman on appropriations. I chair the Energy and Water Subcommittee. But you are so right. We work for months, sometimes for hours a day, trying to get a bill crafted. My bill, the Energy and Water Bill, will actually be in full committee for what we call markup for passage. But so many times, because of the failures in Congress, because we don't have regular order, Our work will go for naught, not just my work, but my my fellow members on the Appropriations Committee in the House. The Senate has a corresponding committee that does the same thing. But the failures turn up in something that we call a continuing resolution or, God forbid, even worse, a government shutdown. Sure.
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So let's talk about that because I don't put a lot of stock into the Hill press because, you know, a lot of them, they're designed just to create angst among people. But they're saying, look, they don't see how Congress is going to get these appropriation bills through the process without having to turn to another continuing resolution. Your thoughts.
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Well, thank you. The fiscal year ends September the 30th. The new year begins for Congress for fiscal 2026, October 1st. So the clock does become the enemy. It's going to be very difficult to get that done. We have passed some bills. The Milcon VA bill has been passed. We've had that on the floor. The House has done that. The Senate is working on their appropriation bills. This week, or actually next week, the defense appropriation bill will actually be going to the floor. But there's just no way we'll be able to get... 12 appropriation bills done by the time September 30th rolls around. So probably a short term continuing resolution only probably into early December so that we would have an opportunity to do regular order and get the House and Senate together. conference a bill that we can send to President Trump for his signature.
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Congressman, explain why that is so important, getting back to regular order. Now, again, I know we touched on that, but combined with funding, I mean, the Bible says where your heart is, your treasure will be also. And our money determines our priorities. Right. Well, you're so right.
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Once again, view it this way. A family has a budget, but those needs change year from year. They may add a child. They may have a new job. The needs of the country change year to year. For example, I think we're in a much more dangerous world. Thank God we have President Trump in this position to well, the threats of Iran and an overly aggressive Russia and China, but the reality is the needs of the country change year to year, and Congress is supposed to do its job and address that. If we fail, we get a continuing resolution which is basically a repeat of the prior fiscal year. So it wouldn't work for a family. It certainly doesn't work for a country. And God forbid, if we get into a situation where we fail totally, and that has happened three years in my tenure, in my 15-year tenure in the House, where we've had a government shutdown. And then our troops are at peril because they don't get paid. We have so many different issues. And then, unfortunately, it costs so much more money to reopen the government. So ideally, we will get a budget done with the House, with the Senate, and the president can sign it. At worst, a short term CR and get something done maybe by late November, early December. But we should we owe it to the American people, Tony, to get a budget done. That's our job.
SPEAKER 15 :
I would agree with that. And I do appreciate those who have been diligently working on that. And I should point out the House has done a pretty good job. in getting those through. They've died, though, in the Senate. Now, we have new kind of leadership in the Senate. We'll see. They still have that 60-vote threshold they've got to go through, so the challenge is still going to be there. About 30 seconds left, Congressman Fleischman. How can our viewers and listeners be praying for Congress at this moment?
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We need to pray every day for our Congress, for our leaders, for the people like us who agree on conservative fiscal and social values. I think that's very important, biblical values. But we've got to pray to God. God's got it. We know that. But good, faithful stewardship, good prayers for our country, making sure that our great republic, that I think is a gift from God to the American people, stays strong now and in the future.
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Chuck, thanks so much for joining us. Always great to see you on the program.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you, Tony.
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God bless you. All right. And folks, I do think, you know, as Jesus said, you know, where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. I think, you know, where we, what we prioritize, where our heart is, that's where we're going to place our treasure. And so we need to make sure Congress is prioritizing the right things. All right, don't go away. We're coming back with more Washington Watch on the other side of the break.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Good to have you with us. All right, search and rescue operations in the flood-devastated areas of the Texas Hill Country have shifted to a recovery phase as the one-week mark approaches. Authorities have confirmed at least 120 deaths across six counties in the wake of the July 4th floods. There's still, as we heard early in this week, there's about 173 people still missing. As Texans grapple with the fallout from the natural disaster, the nation continues to rally behind them, offering prayer, assistance, and more. Joining me to discuss this is Scott Turner, Secretary of the U.S. Department for Housing and Urban Development. And he's a Texas native. He actually was in the Texas legislature. before joining the first Trump administration, helping with their enterprise zones. He is now Secretary of HUD. And Secretary Turner, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hello, sir. Great to be with you. Always a pleasure to see you, Tony.
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Well, I was just thinking Dr. Carson was a great ally in the first Trump administration at HUD. He had just the right disposition. I can't think of anybody else who could step into that role that could do it just as well as you. And so we're thankful that you're there. Thankful for the The ministry spirit that you bring to this, I saw earlier in this week, Tuesday at the cabinet meeting, you led the president and the cabinet praying for Texas.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, sir. You know, President Trump has made it very clear that prayer is important, not just for the cabinet meeting, but for those who are in leadership and those in our country. And so we had a time of prayer for our brothers and sisters and brothers our people in Texas, you know, we wanted to as a cabinet to convene and let people know that we're not only thinking about them, but we are literally making intercession for them. And so I'm so grateful to have a president who values prayer, who values faith in Christ and Christianity and really all, you know, religions and holds up the Constitution. But to be in the White House, to be in the cabinet room and to pray is very humbling and a great honor.
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Well, we're thankful for the fact that he's tapped people like you to serve in his cabinet. Let me ask you, I know you've been in constant touch with what's happening on the ground there in Texas. HUD is taking actions to assist. Give us the latest regarding the situation there and how HUD is involved.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, sir. Well, you know, it's a devastating situation, as we all know, just a loss of life. You know, the sudden impact of these devastating floods, Tony, really has just crippled and broken the hearts of so many people in our country, in particular in Texas. But I'm reminded of the resiliency of the people of Texas and the faithfulness of God, even in the valley. And at HUD, you know, we have people at HUD, man, we really care about the people that we serve. And so right now with our loan programs at HUD to help people to rebuild their homes, to reestablish their homes, and also to own new homes. We have those loan programs available for those that have been impacted from the floods, and also working with our local partners, the whole of government from a federal, state, and local standpoint, working with faith-based institutions to make sure that we're serving people on the ground, those that are doing the search and rescue, and those that have been impacted by the floods to make sure that we're providing shelter, food, counseling, family assistance. And so HUD is here now, but we'll also, Tony, be here for the long haul. And when I tell you that we have a group of people that really care, I do mean that. And so we'll be here until the end to make sure that people's lives and homes are rebuilt.
SPEAKER 15 :
Secretary Turner, talk a little bit. I mean, you're a man of faith. You served as a pastor on staff there at Prestonwood Baptist. Talk about the role that faith plays, not necessarily from the government, but partnering with faith-based organizations, Christian organizations that go beyond the material to touch the real heart need that often surfaces during crises like this.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, sir. You know, our faith-based organizations in our country are doing a tremendous job. When I was in Los Angeles, California, visiting the victims of the fire there, working with the faith-based organizations, nonprofit organizations, also in North Carolina. like the Samaritan's Purse and others who are working to serve people who have been impacted by these natural disasters. I was speaking at a pastor's roundtable there in North Carolina where churches literally came together to feed those without food, to give water to those who are in need, to give clothing to those. One church even started a small bank to give microloans to people to restart their businesses. And so the faith-based institutions are the ones that have their hands to the plow Tony, and their feet on the ground that are actually doing the work. And so at HUD, we want to make it better and more attractive to work with our partners on the ground, to work with faith-based institutions, to bring about real results for the people in America that have been impacted by these natural disasters.
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Secretary Turner, we just have about a minute left, and our folks here, we've challenged our people to pray for the next 30 days for the folks of Texas. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick was on the program, and he said, don't just pray for this week. Pray for 30 days at a minimum because there are needs there, and we're doing that. But I want to ask you, it's the first time you've been on the program since you've taken this role as secretary. Forty-five seconds. How can our viewers and listeners be praying for you?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, thank you, Tony. I would say please pray for those that have been impacted by these natural disasters in Texas and around our country, and also pray for our president, for our cabinet administration, and all of those who serve in public service. As we serve the people of America, I pray that we would be strong, that we would be healthy, that we would lean on the everlasting arm of the Lord, that our eyes would not be taken off of him, but we will look to God. We will look to Christ for wisdom. We will look to him for strength and clarity because as we put our hands to the plow, we're doing it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ to serve those he's called us to serve. And so as people intercede for us, just pray for God to keep us strong, to keep us humble, and to keep us to where our eyes are stayed on him.
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And we will do just that. Scott, thanks for joining us. Folks, stick with us.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Good to be here. Good to be with you.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, let's start with the history behind the president's emergency plan for AIDS relief or PEPFAR. I touched on this earlier with Congressman Smith. Someone would think, well, it's an emergency. I guess it just came about. No, it's been around for about a quarter of a century.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes, indeed, since 2003. You may recall there was a tremendous epidemic throughout the middle of Africa, HIV and AIDS. There were great drugs that were widely available here. but too expensive in Africa. So we put forth a big program, PEPFAR, to make those drugs available. It was very effective. We've spent $125 billion on it since then. 2017, the first Trump administration said, you can't spend those monies on abortions. 2021, Joe Biden said, yes, you can. And that opened the doors.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, going all the way back to the beginning, as we were talking with Congressman Chris Smith earlier, I remember those debates because I was here and there was, yeah, so I've been around a while. That's what happens. You know, that's the problem. Some people don't realize there are people actually know what happened back then when they had these debates. abstinence only so it was it was to promote family it was not to facilitate behavior that was conducive to spreading aids exactly exactly but it has been hijacked And so, Arielle, what are the issues now? I mean, you've been tracking this. You actually wrote a report on this a couple of years ago under the Biden administration on how this has been hijacked by the left to advance a host of leftist agenda items.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and it's just so sad because we heard about the origins and the AIDS crisis that was happening. But as the funds grew for PEPFAR, it really became a bit of a cash cow for some of these leftist projects. And as we are funding these huge NGOs, many of these NGOs started to promote abortion overseas. They would promote LGBT programming. Some of this was actually instructed for by the Biden administration. He was specifically asking for this type of programming. And some of it just goes under the radar because we're looking at a massive program. And it's hard to keep track of absolutely everything. So we need to be putting clear guardrails on it. And when we can, we need to be defunding the programs that are specifically woke, which I think these rescissions try to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. So let's be very clear so our listeners understand, because folks, I'm going to ask you to take some action steps here in just a moment. But the rescissions, the cuts does not eliminate the program.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, not at all. And I want to be very clear with our listeners on this, Tony. So this would cut $400 million from a certain part of the PEPFAR program. However, it would leave available $10 billion, with a B, still available for PEPFAR. So all of the good things that PEPFAR does, like life-saving treatments, providing food, life-saving drugs for free to very needy countries, that would still be occurring even under these recisions.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, I think America should help, and I'm all for emergency help, but a quarter of a century is not an emergency. That sounds like a government program here in Washington, D.C. My conversations with the administration is that they want to kind of, in fact, as the president was meeting with African leaders this week, Trade, not aid. I think we want to wean these countries off of this dependency upon foreign aid. You know, Mark, one of the things that we've heard is that, well, if the U.S. pulls out, China's going in. China's already there. Their Belt and Roads Initiative is already there. This is not going to affect how they view China or the United States.
SPEAKER 14 :
China's Belt and Road Initiative has focused very specifically on Africa. One of the leaders or the largest recipient, most active participant with China is South Africa. PEPFAR has spent millions and millions in South Africa. So that's just one of the many myths that the other side puts out there.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, so very surgical reduction of the portion of the program that has been used to advance anti-family, anti-life elements of the program, correct?
SPEAKER 18 :
Right, and these are exactly the recisions that the White House requested to Congress, that certain recisions be made to PEPFAR. And they specifically requested that some of these categories that often include abortion be removed, the categories that would include LGBT advocacy of different kinds be removed, and just generally un-American programs. And I think we would support cutting all of that. And I think most Americans would, too.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the House did. The House approved it. Yes. But the Senate wants to put it back in.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
What's going on here?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, some senators think they want to put it back in, mainly Senator Collins from Maine, maybe Senator Tillis from North Carolina, maybe a couple of others.
SPEAKER 15 :
I was speaking with a conservative senator last night who said that he doesn't think they'll be able to get it passed unless this is amended to restore the cutting of these woke policies. I'm not so sure about that. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, well, we have to remember that many of these NGOs that get the grants from PEPFAR, they have enormous budgets. So they are fighting very hard right now. And they're communicating to senators in a way that I think is dishonest, basically scaring them into thinking that lives are going to be lost in Africa if these funds are cut. And that's simply not true.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, folks, you can weigh in on this. You can text the word PEPFAR. Now, let me spell that for you because it's one of those Washington, D.C. acronyms. P-E-P-F-A-R, PEPFAR. That was the Presidential Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief. Yes. Twenty-five years ago, it was emergency. Today, it's, I guess, still emergency. Text the word PEPFAR to 67742. PEPFAR to 67742. You'll get a link. That link will help you get to your two senators to tell them, don't fund the left's woke anti-life, anti-family policies in this program. Now, I know some would want to go further and just eliminate PEPFAR. I do think we have to, and I'm for that eventually, but I think we have to be prudent, these countries that are depending upon this for certain elements of healthcare. We created the dependency. We can't just take it out overnight, but we should take it out. Eventually, it should come out. What are some of the other arguments that are being used to suggest that... I mean, we're hearing people are going to die. And I mean, $400 million and there's $10 billion left? I mean, what... They ought to be thankful.
SPEAKER 14 :
Here's the choice that every senator is going to have to start making beginning on Tuesday when the debate begins. You can be funding actual help that helps people who have AIDS, or you can be funding things like $3.1 million for pastry cookie training programs for male prostitutes.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't think I want to eat those cookies. So let me ask you, well, I don't know, I threw myself off there. Let me go to you. I'm sorry. Russell Moore, the editor-in-chief of Christianity Today. told a writer at The Atlantic that PEPFAR should be an easy call for evangelical Christians. He said, quote, it affirms human dignity and the sanctity of life in ways easily within the reach and responsibility of our country. It is hard to know whether the glee for destroying one of the most effective and successful moral reforms American evangelicals have ever supported is more sadism, cruelty for cruelty's sake. I mean...
SPEAKER 18 :
i mean where's he coming from yeah that's such an accusation uh i would respond that it's not compassionate at all to support a program that we know has cost the lives of unborn babies in africa unnecessarily yeah unnecessarily yes the cdc uh revealed recently that uh at least 21 unborn or babies that were killed via abortion paid for by PEPFAR in Mozambique. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of what we know about.
SPEAKER 14 :
There must be more.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we know many more organizations that PEPFAR has funded has promoted abortion overseas to these countries where they don't have a strong culture of abortion to begin with.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, exactly. I was talking about this with Chris Smith earlier, is that I have personally And I know Chris has many, many more spoken to ambassadors and others who are so tired of being strong-armed by the U.S. government to receive foreign aid. They have to change their policies on life and on human sexuality. And PEPFAR is just another sledgehammer for them to use.
SPEAKER 14 :
A lot of the PEPFAR funds even go to efforts by these NGOs in those countries to persuade them to change their pro-life laws.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, they're funding these NGOs.
SPEAKER 14 :
So I can see why they become irritated. It's not just talking from our ambassadors, people we put there.
SPEAKER 15 :
So let me go back to my earlier question. um there are republicans who want to restore these i mean this is even a haircut i mean 400 million dollars out of 10 billion dollars nothing but they want to restore it and here's mark why i believe this is the case now some of them don't really care about the issues we care about. But here's the bigger issue, is that they don't want to face a narrative in their reelection that you cut PEPFAR and that children in Africa are dying because you cut PEPFAR.
SPEAKER 14 :
Am I right? Absolutely. But my suggestion to them is they will face that kind of argument in any case. Their choice is are you going to fund actual help for AIDS victims or are you going to fund this kind of stuff?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, when you look at the fact that we are approaching $37 trillion in debt – The issue is going to be, are you going to, at some point, there's going to be some politicians that are going to have to answer the question, are you going to save this country or let it go down the tubes because of the money that you're spending irresponsibly? And this is an example of how a good program, I would say the merits of this when it started, the intentions were good. Of course. But programs in Washington, D.C. never go away, and they morph over time to become a vehicle for the professional NGOs that make money. Let me just say this. FRC has never received any government grants or government money. We're all privately funded, so I can say this without hesitation. It's a cottage industry. Actually, it's more than a cottage industry. It's a huge industry. It's a complex, industrial complex on government money. At some point, we've got to demand maturity in our government to say we cannot keep doing this.
SPEAKER 14 :
I have to say, I've talked to a number of folks in the Senate today. I'm somewhat optimistic. I think there's going to be more of an effort focused on defunding or restoring the defunding of NPR and PBS.
SPEAKER 15 :
I've had conversations with members about that. I wouldn't say I sympathize with this. I can identify with it because the former head of public broadcasting in my home state of Louisiana was a friend. Her husband was one of my best friends. Not that I agree with it, but there's relationships, and that's where it gets difficult sometimes at the state level. But, again, it's just we can't afford to keep doing these things. Choices have to be made. Yeah. Final thoughts, Arielle.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, well, I would just say about the life-saving care line that people also said this when Secretary of State Rubio enacted a foreign aid pause earlier this year. And we did not hear any reports from Africa that thousands of people had died, like they said would happen. We didn't hear reports that anyone had died. So I think we're really undermining these countries' ability to take care of themselves. We're underestimating them when we're saying that, oh, without this $400 million, you guys are all going to die. That's just not true. And these countries have learned a lot as the PEPFAR program has been enacted in their countries. These people have learned how to treat PEPFAR for themselves.
SPEAKER 15 :
And we need to allow them to take ownership of this. Arielle, Mark, thanks so much for joining us. And folks, thank you for joining us again. Text the word PEPFAR to 67742. That's P-E-P-F-A-R, PEPFAR to 67742. All right, we're out of time for today, but after you make the phone call, after you pray, you know what? Take a stand and just keep standing.
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SPEAKER 09 :
We've got breaking news. President Trump once again blocked in federal court.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
It's Thursday, July 10th. That's right. I always want to make sure I state that at the beginning of the show is when it sounds like it could be a rerun, but it is not once again. Another judge. stepped in the way of president trump you may go logan the supreme court i thought ruled about this but then you guys had what happened last week they found a loophole well once again this is another loophole and this is breaking news when i say breaking news i mean it we were struggling to figure out what we were going to lead with today and i just was like you know you guys got to keep refreshing the page It's like when you're waiting for like a ticket master for tickets. As you know, something against the Trump administration around 10 o'clock will break. And this broke. And that is they judges come in and blocked the birthright citizenship order, even despite the Supreme Court ruling specifically on this issue with a very nuanced approach. And look, I've said the whole this whole situation. I'm not sure what side I land on in terms of the actual birthright citizenship portion about this. But whether President Trump has the right to do this, I think is a very different story.
SPEAKER 08 :
They figured out another loophole to put in a pause. That's right. So this is a federal judge out of New Hampshire this time that issued a preliminary injunction. And the way that this was done was by issuing a class action certification for a class of plaintiffs, which are, in this case, infants. And one of our people on our legal team said, I wonder if it includes the unborn or if it's only born babies, but that are protected by this. But when you look at what they did, it actually tracks by finding a loophole with what was brought up in the opinion by Justice Barrett. Where she was arguing nationwide injunctions are trying to shortcut around rules that are already in place and have been for a long time. Specifically, Rule 23 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which governs. the rigorous process of certifying a class for a class action suit that would allow a judge to offer broader relief than just the plaintiffs before the court and that's exactly what this judge has done here he has certified a class that will receive relief from the court now Here's what we don't know yet, Logan. The opinion, the written opinion by this judge, he has not put out yet that goes along with this order. So we need to see that to really understand if he did something that Justice Alito was concerned about. Right now, it's just a top line. kind of breaking news headline if you will and the judge said that order and that opinion will be out later today but justice alito put this actually i'm going to save it for the next segment because justice alito had a warning about what could happen even though he joined the opinion in full by justice barrett in his concurrence he kind of issued a warning and we're going to get into that when we come back because that's what we don't know If this judge was going against what justice Alito warned about, or if he followed this rigorous process, we're going to keep you updated on this topic.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's going to keep unfolding as we go. So make sure you don't go anywhere. As we head into this first break, phone lines have just opened up and they're ready for you. Give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. It can be on the specific issue or it can be about the actual kind of lawsuit issue of this, the class action issue. For all, you know, representing all children who are yet able to speak. And look, again, I think we have to have our own decisions on what you think birthright citizenship means. And I'm sure we all have different opinions on that. That's not really the question. It was the same reason why we were representing West Virginia. That wasn't the concern. The concern was President Trump being able to actually take action and get things done. Speaking of taking action and getting things done, here at the ACLJ, we've been fighting for you for the last 35 years, and that's why we are in our 35 years of Justice Drive. Your donations are doubled right now. We had a big day yesterday. A lot of clowns were being sent in. We had a lot of fun. But today, we've got to double down again. Your donations are doubled. Go to ACLJ.org slash 35. Scan that QR code that's on your screen. Rick Grinnell will be joining us a little bit later. phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 i did want to restate the breaking news as we have a lot of you just joining us right now and i'm going to ask you if you're watching on youtube you're watching on rumble however you watch uh hit that thumbs up right now if you especially if you're watching on youtube we have to make sure we get this into more people's feeds it's not going to be the number one story of the news today but we're going to try to break in as much as we can because it is a big moment so again Hit that thumbs up or throw a comment, and that really helps out. If you want to be a part of the show, even more so, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. But this is another federal judge coming in, blocking one of President Trump's plans, now saying that the birthright citizenship argument can be turned into a class action argument, a class action on behalf of all infants. Again, now testing sort of the powers of the lower courts versus the Supreme Court that seemed to the intentionality of the Supreme Court may not have been this.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. And what we heard from Justice Alito through his concurring opinion in his concurrence with Justice Barrett's opinion was. was that he did join the decision in full, but here's kind of the warning he put out. He said, putting the kibosh on universal injunctions does nothing to disrupt Rule 23's requirements. Of course, Rule 23 may permit the certification of nationwide classes in some discrete scenarios. But district courts should not view today's decision as an invitation to certify nationwide classes without scrupulous adherence to the rigors of Rule 23. Otherwise, the universal injunction will return from the grave under the guise of nationwide class relief, and today's decision will be of little more than minor academic interest."
SPEAKER 09 :
He almost gave them the idea.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And he says, lax enforcement of requirements for third-party standing and class certification would create a potentially significant loophole to today's decision. Federal courts should thus be vigilant against such potential abuses of these tools. I do not understand the court's decision to reflect any disagreement with these concerns, so I join its decision in full. But once again, that's the warning and also kind of a... Although not the full opinion of the court in his concurrence is kind of putting the courts on notice of saying, you better follow the rules in this specific rule, Rule 23. That's what we don't know currently about what this judge in New Hampshire has done. Has he followed that process and scrupulously adhered to the process of Rule 23 in granting the class? Because this group had already filed this lawsuit before the Supreme Court decision. However, they filed a motion to make a protected class within this lawsuit after the opinion of the Supreme Court, and that is what this judge has granted. We will see if he followed Rule 23 strongly, but I think If he didn't, it also gives the government an opportunity on an appeal to try and overturn this. It is interesting because once again, the issue at hand is the one that is more, I would say, gray area, even on the right, as far as whether the birthright citizenship order should have even been a thing. But that, once again, is kind of the test for all of these issues that we're seeing play out of the judicial power versus executive power.
SPEAKER 09 :
I want to take a phone call. I know a lot of you have very specific questions that are coming in. We'll try to answer as many as we can. And if we can't answer it, we'll turn to some of our legal experts and get them to weigh in as well, because they always are listening and watching, even if they're not on air. And Rick Grinnell will be joining us a little bit later so he can answer some of those as well. Let's go to Dan, who is calling in California on line one. Dan's listening on the radio, which we appreciate. For those who listen on terrestrial radio know that some of your networks don't carry the full half hour. They are full hour and they should. But if you want to watch the full hour, we broadcast every day from noon to 1 PM Eastern time on ACLJ.org live. Dan, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Um, what is the constitutional argument for an alien versus being a U S citizen? And if I were to even put a finer point upon it, if, if a penalty has been imposed in the citizens, uh, Home country. Why can't we just carry out the same sentence? I don't understand the constitutional argument.
SPEAKER 09 :
dan that gets a little hairy i would say we can we can talk about that but in terms of what the depends on obviously what country they're coming from why are they here did they seek some sort of asylum because they were unjustly uh you know you know given some sort of law that's very anti-american you got to think about all of the different countries people come in from and why uh they may have some sort of criminal record doesn't always mean it would be an american criminal record if you will now of course we're talking about murder we're talking about assault all those kind of things it's very different But if we are talking about religious discrimination, that's a broad reason the ACLJ team is here. We work with those people who are seeking asylum specifically for their religious beliefs because we know in a lot of these countries, specifically in different areas of the world, including the Middle East, sometimes that has to happen. But in terms of how someone who is a legal citizen and what you consider, I guess you said, an alien or someone who is here not legally, here illegally, how they are treated, it should be very different. However, it feels like there's a lot of crying going on when that is what happens.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and Dan, the point about why couldn't the US just implement some sort of sentence that occurred in another country? With all its issues that we see going on today, with the conflicts between the executive and the judges, between the Supreme Court rulings and limiting and even the loud dissents that you see within these opinions, the United States has the best legal system in the world. Because the bedrock of that system is our Constitution. So I don't think that we would ever want to start to bring in other nations' legal systems by trying to carry out their sentences that happen there because they're inferior systems. So I think that would be to the detriment of the United States. That should not happen. However, the situation you have is that the best remedy for that wouldn't be, in my opinion, if someone is a convicted criminal in a foreign country, you send them back to the country and let them carry that out. We wouldn't want the U.S. taxpayer to then be putting someone in our prison system that we would then have the taxpayer is the one who pays that for a crime that committed in another country send them back to that country and let them be dealt with there but that one dan that would run afoul if we were to start carrying out other legal systems yeah due process rights all sorts of issues that we do not want to do because of the strength of our legal system yeah no i'm not a fan of that dan but i do understand the question thank you for calling uh we do have a lot of calls so i'm curious should we take some of these calls will should we keep going because these this i know this is opening up a can of worms
SPEAKER 09 :
A lot of people are going, wait, should have this been settled? What happened here? Let's go to Michael first, who's calling in Florida. Michael, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gentlemen, my question is, don't we have a layer of quote-unquote protection for the executive orders and, quite frankly, the rule of law?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, it does feel, obviously, these feel politically motivated. Right. They're going to feel politically motivated. Why? Because they are politically motivated. Now, that's not to say that Republicans haven't done the same thing. It's not to say that this isn't part of playing the game in Washington, D.C. It's just a bit more on Front Street right now because we weren't able to see it and track it over and over and over again. It's also because President Trump has taken a lot of quick actions. So he took a lot of quick actions right when he started. And with that, you had the answers coming in from these judges very quickly. And then it became a trend. And then it became a moment for celebrity and popularity. Because if you're one of these judges that can stop one of President Trump's quote unquote, you know, problematic bills or whatever it may be, then maybe you can become hero worshipped. So remember, ego plays a huge part of this. There are good judges. I don't want to act like every judge is a bad judge. There are specific ones who, sure, that are unsavory, but there are a lot that are doing good things. We've seen some big successes recently, even what's going on. Though Massachusetts, we know what we have in Planned Parenthood. We also have an update on how we're getting involved in even more of those pro-life fights. A lot of times, those are with judges who are at least sympathetic.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. So we are now we yesterday we found out that Planned Parenthood with the defunding issue that they took to federal district court in Massachusetts. They had asked for an extension of the temporary restraining order to last even longer because they had a scheduling conflict with one of the nine lawyers that was on the case. So they filed a motion with the judge. The Trump administration pushed back and said, hey, why don't we do the hearing earlier? Let's not give them more time. They're the ones who brought the suit. Let's go ahead and move this up. The judge actually agreed with the Trump administration, even though this judge has issued injunctions against the president, has has really been a key judge, an Obama appointee for some of the left's lawfare carrying out against the actions of the administration. But said, let's move the hearing up. The briefing schedule remains the same. And the ACLJ will be filing tomorrow with that court.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, okay. My question was, you talk a lot about the Abraham Accords, and I'm not really sure exactly what it is. I thought maybe one of you guys could explain that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think we can probably both explain that and why the Abraham Accords were so important and are so impactful. Essentially, it's an agreement, a normalization agreement, between many different... Arab and Middle Eastern countries and Israel. So pre Abraham Accords, they didn't necessarily have a friendly relationship. Travel was sometimes restricted. Tourism was sometimes restricted. Trade was restricted. A lot of things happened. President Trump came in with obviously with Mike Pompeo and a whole new group and were able to create these almost normalization agreements between many of these areas and Israel. including the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, a lot of places where Israeli tourism couldn't really happen. And not necessarily for a specific reason, because you go to the UAE, yes, a lot of these are Muslim countries, but they're not the most traditional Muslim countries. They are like the Las Vegas of Muslim countries, especially in the UAE. So they were able to actually have moments where they had Hanukkah celebrations. in the UAE, things you never thought you'd see, normalized air travel, that your passport could be Israel and you could get into these places without being any issues. This was starting really what could have been the diplomatic peace in the Middle East, if you will. I was very moved by it. It was very powerful. It was signed into law the first time during the first Trump administration. Now, again, it kind of didn't go away, but the conversations went away about furthering it. Now we're starting to see that pick back up.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right, because this allowed things like diplomatic relations to occur in having ambassadors to these countries, opening up embassies, allowing travel, as you said, allowing economic relationships to make.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right there. These are their neighbors. And so they had no relationship with many of these countries. Now, Israel has had diplomatic relations with Jordan and Egypt for a long time, but there's very few actual countries within the region that Israel has these relationships with. Now this began to change in 2020 under the leadership of the Trump administration with Mike Pompeo really helping spearhead this as well as the president. And like you said, Bahrain, the UAE, Morocco, and Sudan all became signatories to these treaties, these normalizations. And Israel is part of that. With Israel, right. So countries that were hostile to Israel for some of these countries for their entire existence now have a normalized relationship. And there are talks looking forward that there could be other countries added to this list now that an administration that cares about this is back in the position to normalize these relationships.
SPEAKER 09 :
We have to go back to the first Trump administration and remember that there was relative peace in the Middle East. There was relative peace uh with israelis and with muslims israelis and arabs this was not the contentious world that we lived in right now president trump ended isis and with that the abraham courts were founded now we saw chaos break out whether that was in afghanistan or other places over the biden administration maybe the biggest heartbreak to me of president trump losing um and not being able to be have a second term immediately after was sort of the the degradation of the of the abraham courts and what was to follow And actually, you could probably go back to those shows of me yelling, saying he needs to talk more about this in the campaign. President Trump needs to talk about how amazing this moment is. And yes, it's not the most America based, but the stabilization of the Middle East obviously impacts all of us. And now we see the chaos in the Middle East right now with Israel and Gaza and Iran and all of the different things that have come out. I mean, and not too far away, Ukraine and Russia and all of the chaos that has broken out, all the different wars that have come out of the last decade. Five years. It's really unfortunate, but I hope you understand how important that was to us, and it's still important that the Abraham Accords are taken seriously, as we want to see that normalization in the Middle East. We've got a couple more calls, got a couple more minutes here in this segment. I do want to encourage you, if you don't get us for the second half hour, find us broadcasting live right now. We're on YouTube, Rumble, ACLJ.org, and of course archived later on, however you get your podcasts. You can find us right now, though, at ACLJ.org, and you can make that donation during this specific 35 years of Justice Drive, where we are. really celebrating not just this 35 years but the next generation of aclj attorneys aclj media personalities you've seen a lot of change over the last few years and we are building and rebuilding continually it is never about being stagnant it's just about being authentic and with that i ask for your support at aclj.org 35 again aclj.org 35 and get on hold right now at 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-31 one zero we do have a call kind of related to the what we just came off of and i understand but let's take it steven's calling in new york on youtube uh steven you're on the air okay uh i didn't expect this but what i said to them so i don't know what you mean you didn't expect it what what's going on
SPEAKER 04 :
I didn't expect to get a hold of anybody that I could talk to.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you're on the radio and on digital platforms to millions of people right now, so you've got about a minute.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll get to the point. There you go. What troubles me is these riots that have been disguised as protests are getting out of hand people are getting killed now ice agents are getting killed people's business are being looted and burned and it needs to stop we need to stop focusing so much on the middle east and get the war here under control because we're being attacked from within steven all right thank you so much i'm only cutting you off because we're running out of time and because of your sound quality here but steven i don't think those have to be uh
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. Our government, hopefully, can both monitor what's happening in the Middle East and also in the streets. We also have individual state governments that should be doing stuff. Sure, California's not doing near as much as it could have. Other areas, not doing as much as they could have. We'll talk to Rick Grinnell about that. Of course, we've had the situations that have come out of California and other places. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be focusing on what's happening on the streets or where you are in New York. Obviously, a lot of us spend a lot of time in New York. In New York City, I do as well. And sure, you can feel the difference. But we also have to watch the media. If you go to New York, I've said this, it'd be a huge place. I was in London last week. Same thing. Sure, there's a lot of chaos happening. You gotta be careful. But it's not like everywhere you turn is chaos. You are seeing a media version of this, whether that's from your conservative media or your liberal media. They're all gonna paint a different picture. And it's similar to the riots that happened in LA. Sure, they were happening, but it wasn't like that business as usual wasn't happening in a lot of places as well. So you got to remember that these are humongous areas that you're seeing one street corner. And always remember that. Again, that street corner is important. I think we can't lose sight of that. But what I've said in New York is that you'll stumble upon a lot of protests, but you won't necessarily be inundated by it. It's not like everywhere you go, you'll see these riots in the streets and everything. Now you'll see protections up higher. You'll see you go to Walgreens and you can't get your Advil. I mean, it's concerning. I get it. We're going to keep your conversation going. 1-800-684-3110 to be on the air. And yes, if you call in and you make it through the phone screening process, the next step is you will be on the air potentially. So I just want to make sure you understand that. Expect to talk to us. 1-800-684-3110. Go to ACLJ.org if you want to support the work. And if you're brand new and you've never seen us before, hit that subscribe button on YouTube. We know about half of you who watch, never seen us before, never seen our beautiful faces, Will. But today they have, and I'm going to ask you to join the over 500,000 and six, 506,000 YouTube subscribers alone that join us each and every day. keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo and now your host logan seculo welcome to the second half hour of seculo for today i like to say it's july 10th 2025 because you may hear this here rogue judges here uh blocking president trump ago oh that's a summer rerun but it's not This is what's happening today. Right before we went on the air, another judge blocked a President Trump plan. Of course, this was one that comes out of the birthright citizenship order. And the Supreme Court warned of this, Will. As you said, Justice Alito warned of this, said, look, if this is the way we're going to rule, though I'm in for it. know that this is going to be the plan is to again kind of change it into these sort of class action lawsuits and that is what happened and they're filing on behalf of all infants all infants who are born here in america and of course the nuance of this law is president trump wants it to be i believe you have to have a a u.s citizen as one of your parents either that or someone who is here legally on a a more permanent visa people coming to america tourism a Coming to America right before they have a baby, tourism babies have their baby, and all of a sudden they get full American citizenship and rights. Look, I'll be honest. If you talk about the actual specific issue, I'm kind of in favor of if you're born here. I understand that people are abusing that. It's not the baby's fault, but I kind of do believe that if you're born here, you do have some rights as an American citizen. That being said, I understand the concern. But what the main concern is, is that these judges keep figuring out ways to stop anything really from moving forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. And the basis of the opinion of Justice Barrett was that why nationwide injunctions and universal injunctions were not permissible is that there were actual things on the books, Rule 23 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, that help in situations that may be extraordinary, that may need a broader protection. Now, what happened here, we don't quite know because we haven't seen the written order yet. We're expecting to get that later today, per the judge who said, basically, I'm granting this and you will have my written order later that lays out my reasoning. So we will see if he went through the rigorous process and more scrupulous process that is required by Rule 23. And he may have. He may have done and it may fit. But it does show that at least on this particular issue, there are ways around this. the nationwide injunction ban because there is a process to get a class action before a judge which would affect people that are not parties to the lawsuit directly that are not plaintiffs directly in this situation so we'll see how that works out we will read the order when it comes out and see but as of right now we are seeing What is another broad injunction against this executive order and this time using Rule 23, which governs class action suits?
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
Well, thank you very much. I mean, we are experiencing firsthand what it's like to have deferred maintenance and budget lies about an institution as great as the Kennedy Center. We had a broken sewer pipe that flooded a large portion of the basement of the Kennedy Center. And this is directly related to not doing basic maintenance over the years, pretending like we were. The previous leadership had really lied about the budget. They created $21 million in phony revenue to make the budget look like it was balanced. We caught that. We've turned it over to the authorities. And now we're trying to clean up the mess at the Kennedy Center. Thank God for President Trump. He came, he saw the condition of the center, and in this big, beautiful bill, There's $257 million to refurbish the Kennedy Center so that we don't have these problems. We have, you know, this is America's arts institution, which is a monument to John F. Kennedy, the living monument. And so we've got to maintain this building. And thank God that President Trump saw it and is going to fix it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Rick, I feel like the issues with the Kennedy Center are almost a symbol or analogy for what happened to the government as a whole under the past four years, where things would be said, put forward, everything's fine, the border is secure. when behind the scenes, everything was falling apart. And so the the lies that were told to the American people are now coming out in the open. And what you're describing here is it seems like the perfect analogy that when you took over at the Kennedy Center, everyone was saying it's going to ruin this great institution. How dare President Trump put someone as controversial as Rick Grinnell ahead of this wonderful institution when in reality, behind the scenes, nothing was fixed, everything was wasted, and we're seeing the fruits of what real work now can happen under new leadership.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, look, I think these are complicated issues, and it does take people who want to dig in and understand the issues. That's what President Trump did. He came over to look at the place. Again, it's a living memorial, much like some of the other monuments in Washington, D.C. It's a building and a memorial to John F. Kennedy. Happens to be a performing arts center. And One thing that we believe very strongly is that we shouldn't have to take program money to have ongoing programs and shows at the Kennedy Center from public dollars. What I'm trying to do is to say we will take public dollars for the building, since it's a museum and a living memorial, to upkeep the building. But in terms of the art center, in terms of the programming for the arts, we don't want to take public money. We want to be able to make decisions about programming that attract the public and that pay for the programs themselves. We believe in arts education, but you can't do arts education unless you have some money coming in and paying the bills some other way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you actually can draw an audience. There's plenty of artists ready and plenty of other shows and everything ready to bring in those audience there to the Kennedy Center. It doesn't all have to be fringe. There's always a good place for that kind of content. But also you can have your mainstream content that people want to see. People want to come out from the areas to see. And I know your team is working hard at that. But Rick, I did also want to pivot a little bit from the Kennedy Center. We saw, well, was it oversight hearing? Talking to President Biden's doctor. And of course, once again, without saying it, seems to have proven what we've all knew all along well.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. It was supposed to be a closed-door deposition. It wasn't supposed to be televised. But they put the video out after the fact where the doctor to the president, the previous president, decided to take the Fifth Amendment, assert his Fifth Amendment privilege over basic questioning. One of which was? Were you ever told to lie to the American people about the condition of the president? And he asserted his privileges under the Fifth Amendment. Rick, what was your take on that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, I'm a firm believer that you get to take an amendment and exercise it. It's part of the Constitution. If you don't want to answer questions because you believe that it's a political prosecution or...
SPEAKER 09 :
Rick, I think let's try reconnecting with Rick real quick. It's having some connection difficulties right there. But I do think that is part of the story here is not necessarily the Fifth Amendment. I think we're all pro Fifth Amendment. I think we're actually I'm kind of pro some sort of medical privacy as well. Right. however this is the president united states and was under a lot of scrutiny specifically for this and they didn't ask for the president's uh what his medical conditions were anything like that they asked were you ever asked to lie about them of which he decided to take the fifth amendment of course like you said i think it's his right to be able to take the fifth amendment but it does you know make everybody's uh little you know question mark uh float over their heads
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, also sometimes within Fifth Amendment assertion, in situations like that, as we saw with someone like Lois Lerner, that was obviously the person who was behind the scandal of the Obama administration that was attacking Tea Party groups. But asserting your Fifth Amendment privilege sometimes is because – You have to assert it in a deposition like that across the board, or else if you break that, then you start testifying on something, then you're no longer covered. So it makes for a good moment on TV and says a lot about the willingness to talk about it. But once again, Rick, can you finish up what you were saying when we lost you there for a second about this whole situation?
SPEAKER 02 :
Look, I firmly believe in the Constitution. I think you have every right to take the fifth. And what that means is not commenting in a process and a proceeding where you think you're not getting a fair trial or what you say might damage yourself. And you're not the focus of this. And so I get it and I understand it. And I think it's a powerful tool that we need protecting. But I also think that when you take the fifth, there are some consequences, which is you're not being transparent. People are going to assume the worst. And so you have to know what you're getting into. I think that there's a different bar for taking the fifth when it comes to the presidency of the United States. If it's a process... um, about what, what the president made in terms of a decision. I'm all for taking the fifth and saying, I'm not going to tell you what the criteria was or what our conversation was when I was having, uh, giving advice to the president of the United States. I get that. However, this is about the health of the president. This is the doctor who was, uh, trying to, um, ensure that the president of the United States was healthy. If he or she knows something about, that the president of the United States was not healthy and there was a cover-up, this is of public concern. Transparency is crucial. And I do think that this doctor makes a mistake for not just coming clean and saying what he believes. If he believes Joe Biden was absolutely with it and had no problems and could do the job, then that doctor should tell us, I checked him out, I think he was healthy, and I think that he was fit to be president. That would settle it because then it would be a he said, she said, we saw things that you didn't. And so this would be kind of a conversation back and forth between two political parties. That's not what happened here. This guy, when asked, was Joe Biden fit to be president, said, I'm not going to talk about it. I think that's problematic. I think that is evident that he can't tell us that Joe Biden was fit.
SPEAKER 09 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you very much. Okay, so my opinion is that we do need to rein in the birthright citizenship, but either way, whether they are citizens or not, it is the parents' responsibility to support their kids, starting with paying for their hospital stay where they have their kids. These parents get all sorts of money from our government, and I believe that needs to stop.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, I mean, Michelle, there's a lot of conversation about where government waste is, what it actually is, what it doesn't. Obviously, there's things like emergency room care. You can't deny care. Of course, they get charged, but that becomes a whole different situation. A lot of people have their insurance providers, but if you're talking about people that come here, maybe a tourist or that, I don't know the ins and outs of all of that well, but maybe you do you.
SPEAKER 08 :
well i mean i think it's a very broad uh issue because there's more than 150 000 each year that are would be affected by the well that are specifically from two parents that are not uh do not have citizenship so that what this order would affect they estimate about 150 000 a year now um they're like we said there are many issues with it there are people that uh that actually have the means and money to come and almost as a uh status symbol or a novelty or even uh for future use will come and plan to have their child here have a get a visa and extend that to maximize the time here so that they can have a child here to get citizenship for that that would be a different case than people who are here that are undocumented for uh maybe even multiple generations that the parents have no legal status, but their children are born here. That's something that President Obama tried to affect with the DACA ruling where those were childhood arrivals, the children came here. Now, many of those children that would have been covered under DACA, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, may be having children. And so their children would have citizenship under the 14th Amendment. And it is a complex issue and actually one that many on the right aren't aren't fully sure where they land on it or may disagree with the president. That is one of the reasons why the left has made this kind of the issue. And and they fought over this on some of the ancillary issues instead of any of the other specific issues. executive orders that have been challenged in court because this one uh the pr from the left is a lot easier to uh get into some of the right people on the conservative side that may agree with the left saying i don't know that this executive order is is means yeah all right let's go ahead and take a couple more calls before we wrap up for the day let's go to dean you've been a hold for a long time dean we appreciate it uh listening on sirius xm you're on the air
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I grew up in the Sacramento area in a Hispanic neighborhood. And my neighbor was born in Sacramento, Catholic hospital during World War II to two migrant farm workers. After the war, they went back to Mexico. When he immigrated to the United States in the 60s, he had to become a naturalized citizen just like anybody else. And I honestly, growing up in a Hispanic neighborhood, don't know anybody older than me that was given citizenship because they were born here. It was all people younger than me, and I'm in my 50s. So when did this start?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the text of the Constitution in the 14th Amendment says that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. Now, I don't know the ins and outs of the Sacramento neighborhood or situations there or paperwork or maybe even those parents declined citizenship. to want their children to be citizens. There was a big movement with individuals that would come here and still wanted to be citizens of the previous country because of their pride. They were here for work. But that also may have been the case, Dean, that culturally they did not want their children to be American citizens because they were a citizen of somewhere else. There are ways that they could decline the citizenship, even if someone was born here. But the issue that is being fought over is that that text of all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. What the Trump administration is arguing through this order is really about the and subject to the jurisdiction thereof line. not the all persons born in line, because they're arguing that if the parents were not here legally or they were here on a tourism visa, then they are not subject to the jurisdiction thereof. But that is what this entire battle is about. The President Trump is saying this amendment to the Constitution... This was in the late 1800s.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, 1868, I believe, more than 150 years ago. You can at least infer that some of this had to do with the end of the slave trade. So, of course, there's some of that as well going, okay, the... The cause of this was probably very noble.
SPEAKER 08 :
The cause of the amendment specifically was for people that were in the United States that were former slaves, freed slaves, were not considered citizens of the United States, even if they were born here, had been here for many generations. And children. Children here, they were not considered citizens because of the Dred Scott case and situations where they were not considered citizens of the United States. The 14th Amendment gave them citizenship and protected them as citizens of the United States. So the argument, though, of, well, that was about something different. also is not a very conservative legal argument because we believe the plain text of the constitution is the plain text so they are arguing over and the subject to the jurisdiction thereof phrase within section one of the 14th amendment and we're not even close to the merits of that case yet and we'll see how the interpretation is is interpreted by the courts but i think even some conservative supreme court justices logan would probably be more textualists on this and so don't be surprised if once it gets to the supreme court even if on these injunctions issues they've ruled one way they may disagree with the president on this issue right on the specific issue not necessarily whether he could do it or not on the issue oh we just lost what i thought was going to be our last call of the day uh but unfortunately they hang out hung up but it's okay we only got about a minute and 43 seconds we can filibuster that well can we get to my favorite story of the day oh yeah the op-ed in the washington post put it on the screen because the washington post got an op-ed that said i'm a clown and donald trump is not one of us uh and then this other headline is uh i should know What this person's arguing is that you're offending us clowns. The clown community. When the liberals call President Trump and all of us clowns, that's offensive because we are artists.
SPEAKER 09 :
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The episode takes a sharp turn into the contentious grounds of conspiracy theories as we debate the existence of the supposed Epstein client list. Is it merely a speculative fantasy, or is there substance to the claims? Alongside this, we'll explore the dynamics of trust and credibility in the political sphere, examining the figures we choose to place our faith in and why. Don't miss this engaging discussion that touches on art, politics, and media skepticism.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, what about Epstein? I got to play this for you. Guys, can you... Can we sit tight for two seconds? Sure, sure, because I know you don't want to do it. Oh, I'm going to beat you to death with it, because I like Tom. I like me some Tom Fitton.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's kind of okay, and I do like Tom Fitton. Before we go crawling into that dork's treehouse cave, on the notion of reaction to blood stuff, You and I went through something kind of interesting, but you did on your own show, and I did on Twitter back and forth, of people, I guess supposedly good-hearted, decent folks, who reacted to something in a very weird way. You gave me, and this was live radio reaction because I didn't know it was coming, you characterized to me this beautiful painting of a loving Jesus welcoming me girls with hugs and their smiles it's emblematic of the joy that awaits us all in heaven whether we arrive somebody captioned this is what I imagine heaven looked like absolutely the morning of September 5th or July 5th I'm about to take a call from not only somebody who doesn't the painting's not their favorite thing but help me out with this you took a call from somebody yesterday who said the painting was sinful graven images
SPEAKER 03 :
He said, it's violating the commandment against worshiping graven images. I said, nobody's worshiping the painting.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep, the guy was very... So it's not a cartoon contest where you get shot for drawing Muhammad. I mean, that's not our thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is intriguing because the man did declare that he believes every painting, every depiction of Jesus is sinful.
SPEAKER 02 :
Because he believes... It's all sinful.
SPEAKER 03 :
All of it is sinful, and that was his position. But now let's go a little deeper. Let's talk about your pal Uncle Barky. Uncle Barky, who's a Texas fixture, Dallas-Fort Worth guy. TV literature. And Trump hating TDS sufferer. I mean, he's foaming at the mouth, hates Donald Trump, and seems to hate conservatism. That's fine. That's up to him. A lot of people in the media and a lot of those TV folks, that's how they are. Well, he posted yesterday, when you reposted that painting, he said, not my favorite thing either. And you said, excuse me? And what did he say? And what did he say the problem was?
SPEAKER 02 :
He said, first of all, I'm raised Catholic. I was an altar boy or whatever. He said that the painting seemed to deliver not a proper rationale for the tragedy that Jesus or God would snatch these kids and be happy about it. I said, dude, stop. Snatch these kids? What? No, there's nothing in this painting that suggests that a gleeful Jesus said, time to go get the mystic girls. What? It was just very strange. Everybody comes at this in a wide variety of ways. And the painting didn't have to be your favorite thing. But, wow, there certainly was nothing dark about it.
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The painting happens to be a joyful expression of Christianity and our faith and everything we believe. And for a guy who says he was raised a Catholic and an altar boy to not like the image of a beaming Jesus welcoming these children into his arms, that is beyond peculiar. But here's the thing. I tell you, and Uncle Barky's probably in this category, just complete, full-time contrarians. And we have it in our business every day, Mark, whether it's a caller, whether it's a texter, somebody that can take the most wholesome, wonderful thing and dump all over it. They're just contrarians. They're going to like, well, wait a minute, I'm going to take the opposite point of view here. And you've got to be aware of contrarians. the Epstein thing. I will. Mark, you can't run from this. You can't.
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What's my favorite? There is wisdom in knowing whom to ignore. This is not a magic controversy. It is not a bedrock problem for Trump. It is not an uprising. It is not. These people are an annoyance. It's not that they don't have a point they can make. It's fine. I get it. I get it. I get it. But doggone it, man. Let's play Tom Fitton. You said yesterday, you declared...
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Literal length of the Tom Hinton cut. It's short. You declared there's no... Here's what you said. The reason I want to play it is because you told me definitively there's no Epstein list. Oh, really? There's no Epstein list. Really, Mark? No, there's no list. You don't think there's a list.
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sitting there of firm clients that we know about.
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For years they've been talking about the Epstein client list, including Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino, Dan Bongino, but Pam Bondi, people at the highest levels of government right now.
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Now, you've got to point about some people who used to be in the commentary world like Bon Jovi. And you know what they did? They got important jobs where they have access to this information and said, you know what? Maybe it wasn't in the form of some actual tidy list. We can find old Bill Clinton, old Bill Gates. That could be. Ain't no client list. It was always catnip for conspiracy dorks.
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You could be right, but you could be wrong. You could absolutely be wrong.
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The day the list comes out, I'll admit to it.
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Well, there may never be a day the list comes out because it ain't going to happen. Here's Tom Fitton last night with Laura Ingraham.
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I think they decided for political purposes they didn't want to include the individuals who are on these lists and put them in the public domain. And they were concerned that some of them may not have done something warranting the disclosure. I mean, that's the most charitable interpretation.
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That's all I'll say, but what I'm saying, Mark, is that Dan Bongino and Kash Patel are protecting people of power and privilege on some imaginary list. Do you believe that?
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I don't know that I can rule it out. I don't know. I can't rule it out. I'm ruling it out. Really?
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I'm ruling it out. I do not believe. And again, my faith and trust, my bar is high. I mean, Trump, you and I have talked a lot about, we trust Trump. Terrorists might not be our favorite thing in a vacuum. Trump wants to do it. Let's trust him. Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, these are people of rock-solid character. These are people whose service to this nation in many ways is beyond doubt, and I am going to choose to trust them and not for one solitary second believe that they are involved in some sinister protection rack of the rich and powerful on some imaginary Epstein-Claude.
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And I respect that, and I... And I respect that view. I just don't want to run from our audience. And I get annoyed sometimes. You're shutting down. Well, you're talking to people and you're talking down to people. You're saying, there you go, a bunch of dorks, conspiracy dorks. Oh, all the conspiracy. You're talking down to them, Mark. You're patronizing them.
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You're patronizing your own audience. people who will not hear the other side there is there are there are principles and habits of conspiracy dorkery no matter what they hear it always brings me back no matter what i know and if somebody i know all things being equal i kind of do think there's like that's fine we'll talk somebody like that yeah yeah yeah i got it i got it you're getting somewhat by saying i'm not going to talk about it and then talking about it for two flipping hours you're
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It's catnip. It's hard. It's hard to ignore it. It's hard to ignore it. But here's the thing, and I learned this early on in the Trump era. There were certain hosts who said, I'm not going to entertain this Trump guy. I'm not going to talk to my audience. I don't want to listen to them. And look, we got a bunch of people, Mark, who are talking about this. And for us to say, la, la, la, la, la, I'm not going to talk about it.
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They're just dorks. I think it's a trick. I think in entertaining, oh, please, everybody in conspiracy treehouse land, please fill my lines for three stinking hours. You are still serving the 90 plus percent. We want you to talk about the way we're saving America and things that are real problems rather than is this Epstein garbage. So if you're talking about serving the listeners, I'd say maybe I'm done with it. Serves them a lot better than indulging it for another day.
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Fair enough. That, ladies and gentlemen, is Mark Davis, D-A-V-I-S, at Mark Davis on X. Boom. I, on the other hand, am Mike Gallagher at Gallagher Show. I love all people. I love all people. I'm peace and love. Peace and love. I'm here for everybody. For full shows live and on demand, it's the Salem News Channel.
Join Bill as he analyzes the thriving field of emerging growth stocks, highlighting MP Materials' groundbreaking partnership with the Pentagon and its impact on the rare earth materials market. He navigates through Trump's surprising advice to the Federal Reserve, the booming airline industry, Russia’s drone production scale-up, and the rapid advances in autonomous vehicles, presenting an information-rich discussion that's crucial for investors and market enthusiasts alike.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Thursday, July 10th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I don't know if anybody's joining us today. That's okay. I've got it. I've got lots of material for you here today. Well, we've got a new wrinkle in the market, and it's called the bee and bricks wrinkle. The B in BRICS is Brazil, a very large economy. All of a sudden, they've got a 50% tariff on them. Trump doesn't like how they're treating former President Bolsonaro, and he has slapped a 50% tariff. And we have huge news on one of our stocks here today that we'll be talking about. In the meantime, the NASDAQ is down 108%. Half a percent. But the Dow is up 60 points as it ekes its way towards a new all-time high. The Dow is up 13 basis points. The S&P is down 18 basis points. Small caps are down 17 basis points. The bond market was fairly decent this morning, and it still is. We're at 4.36% on the 10-year. We have gold up 15 basis points. Gold seems to like steep tariffs. Gold and steep tariffs go together well, it seems. And silver also. Silver is up around $37 per ounce now. And Bitcoin hit an all-time high yesterday at $11,000, and it's currently just below that level at $110,896. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And we had a really nice rally in the market yesterday. We ended up having a very good day. The Dow was up a half a percent yesterday. The NASDAQ was up a full percent. We had a lot of nice winners. NVIDIA crashed through $4 trillion for the first time. It's not holding it. It's just slightly below it. What Bush is calling Microsoft as the next $4 trillion company, I would agree with that. The S&P was up 60 basis points yesterday. Gold was up a little. It's up again today. And as I said... The one asset class, well, there's a couple that seem to like these steep tariffs. But gold seems to have done best whenever there's a tariff war taking place. And right now it's pointed at Brazil. One of those BRICS companies. You know, Trump already has it in for the BRICS. He feels like they're trying to form a pact that would threaten the U.S., our currency as being a king dollar and other things like that. And he has gone out of his way to threaten the BRICS countries, which are Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. A few tough players in there. and then a lot of other ancillary players that have joined the BRICS recently. But right now his ire is with Brazil. Brazil has been not the best of trade partners. Brazil does have a socialist government in place. I don't think anybody can argue with that. That's not just my opinion. That's a true fact. They elected Lula, and Bolsonaro was much more of a Trump-like character who they ousted. And, of course, they've really gone after him and his son. I've seen many interviews over time with Bolsonaro's son, especially about the way they've been treated down there. I think they'd be most happy having them both in prison, and Trump not happy with that. And he has thrown a 50% tariff. Which is a new weapon. You know, you can talk drones and you can talk nuclear and you can talk blockades and you can talk economic sanctions, but Trump's weapon of choice, and he's really the first president to use tariffs this widely, is, you know, we're going to slap a tariff on your exports. And these countries depend on Brazil is a major, major exporter. I don't know where it stands overall in economies in the world. I'm going to say it's like number six or seven. But we get a lot of goods from Brazil. And, of course, Embraer is caught up in the center of it. Embraer, I'm sure, will get a carve out. This may be a good buying opportunity on Embraer, which has been a great stock over the years. We own it in our relative value portfolio, but in Breyers down, I think, 6% or 7% today. It would hurt their business tremendously to have a 50% tariff on their goods coming into the U.S. When you think of these smaller commuter airplanes, really they don't have any competition. They own that market. They're a very important cog in the wheel of the transportation sector worldwide. Speaking of which, in the transportation sector, I see Sean Duffy. Not only is he the secretary of the kind of the beleaguered transportation secretary. He's done such a good job of trying to get it upgraded and, you know, up to date and all of these clogged airports and the issues we've had with Boeing, etc. He's also accepted Trump's nomination of him to be the head of NASA. The two kind of go together a little bit, NASA. And transportation, I don't know what Duffy's qualifications are. I've seen him many times on the Fox Business Channel. He did a show with Dagan McDowell, who used to be with Maria Botteromo. And I've enjoyed Deshaun Duffy over the years. Seems to be a pretty capable guy. And now he's going to head up not only the transportation department, he's also going to head up NASA, which needs a little updating. I think the private space companies like SpaceX and Rocket Labs and Blue Horizon and the rest. running circles around our NASA and we do have a NASA client a guy that works for NASA out there in Cleveland Ohio and of course I've watched NASA over the years being born in 1957 seeing the moon the landing on the moon of Armstrong and some of the Apollo 13 and all different things that have happened over the years with NASA and It's an impressive agency, but I think it could be even more impressive, and I'm sure that's what Trump is trying to do. Mana, make NASA great again, I guess he would say. So anyways, we've got a 50% tariff all of a sudden levied on Brazil. That's a new wrinkle as far as the NASDAQ goes. I sent out a chart of the NASDAQ today to my subscribers on SeekingAlpha.com, and my subscribers through my bestdocsnowapp.com and showed everybody a current chart of the NASDAQ and the current state of the NASDAQ as it relates to its chart. And we have seen a stalling out in the Dow for now. The Dow, however, continues to slowly march towards new all-time highs. The NASDAQ hit new all-time highs just two days ago, as did the S&P 500. So we really can't complain too much right now about the market. It seems to be overcoming the tariff talk, the tariff wars, and it also seems to be overcoming a severe valuation problem that it has right now. It's made it more difficult. But you just never know how overvalued the market can become before it finally starts to have its comeuppance and its reality check. But so far that hasn't happened. It continues to march upwards. The economy continues to be in good shape. We watch every week for any kind of weakness in the jobs market. This is Thursday. This is initial jobless claims today. And I always thank the Lord that I'm not in that line of folks filing for unemployment. The boss still likes me here at Gundersen Capital Management. I still have a job. Everybody that works for me still has a job, whether they like it or not. But initial jobless claims fell to 227,000 this week. That is an excellent, excellent number. It's not excellent for the 227,000 that filed initial jobless claims. But in the overall scheme of things and putting it up against the amount of workers that are driving to work every day, It's a very small number. I mean, there's just normal turnover that takes place all the time. You're always going to have a couple hundred thousand every week. But that's at the very, very low end when you look at it from a long-term perspective point of view. And I would think that the Fed looks at that and says, you know, we could probably cut. How much is Trump asking for when we come back? Trump is giving Jerome Powell advice on how much he thinks Jerome Powell should cut interest rates by. You might find that to be interesting. Nothing Trump does is uninteresting, whether you like it or not. It's always quite dramatic. He's a dramatic kind of guy. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show. It's always fun to talk about big winners in the market, especially if you've got a little bit of a stake in them. We'll talk about, before we get to Trump's call, Trump's advice to Jerome Powell, how about MP Materials today? which I was about ready to pull the plug on, to be honest with you. We own that in our emerging growth portfolio, okay? In the overall scheme of things, I mean, this is not a big dividend payer. This is not a large cap growth stock like Microsoft or Palantir. This is not an ultra-growth stock because they really don't have ultra-growth yet in earnings or in sales. And that's why the fit for it is in an emerging growth stock, which I consider something that has very large potential growth. may take a while to achieve that growth potential, or it may be just entering into that growth potential. And most of these emerging growth stocks come from the smaller side of things. MP Materials happens to be a $7.5 billion market cap company. And I can't tell you how many times in my lifetime living in San Diego, I've driven on the 15 up north, either to Las Vegas or beyond to the Utah area. That's a much-traveled road for Bill Gunderson since I was 10, 12 years old. And part of the original, my family owned a billboard company. My father did and my brothers and myself. And that was our route. We owned many of those billboards going up to Interstate 15 as Las Vegas was booming. And along the way we would always pass, there's a mountain pass, it's called Mountain Pass, and over to the left is a big mine. It used to be called Mountain Pass, the symbol is still MP, but they changed the name of the company to MP Materials. And they've been digging there for as long as I can remember, bulldozers and excavators and trucks and whatnot. And lately the hope is that there's rare earth. There's something about that hot sun that does things underneath the ground. There's tons of lithium there. There's a lot of salt, obviously, there. There's some very strange landscapes, even mirages of fresh water as you're traveling through the desert. Well, MP Materials has huge news today. They soar on a partnership that makes the Pentagon, that's a good partner to have, the Pentagon, the company's largest shareholder. How about that? Well, you know, I don't know. Is that communism for a company, for the government to take over a big... But I think it's in the best interest of the nation to have supplies of rare earth materials and not be dependent on other countries around the world like China, Indonesia, etc., that, you know, have that over us. They can hold that over us. That's why self-dependence, self-sufficient is a good thing. Then you don't have anybody that can hold something over you. MP Materials is up 52% this morning on this news. The US Department of Defense is accelerating the build-out of an end-to-end US rare earth magnet supply chains, which means there's going to be other winners in this space, to reduce the dependency on foreign sources. The Pentagon will become MP Materials largest shareholder after agreeing to buy $400 million. Now, we have ownership now in this company. If they're buying $400 million, it's a $7.5 billion company. So that's about a 5% stake in the company. Trump likes to make investments. He doesn't like to give handouts. He doesn't like to say, here, solar energy company. Here's a couple of billion dollars. Here's $50 billion for you. No, Trump has taken a stake in this company and wants something in return. So anyways, this is good news, obviously. The founder and chairman of MP Materials is James Latinsky. And I'm sure you'll see it today on CNBC and Bloomberg and the Fox Business Channel. This is a little bit of a new approach that we haven't seen in a while. And we happen to own it in our emerging growth portfolio, which has been emerging lately. We've had a lot of really nice winners in that emerging growth portfolio. And with this one today, let's just take a look at the emerging growth portfolio. This isn't something you want to have 100% of your IRA in. But, you know, we a lot of times for folks that want some of that exposure, You know, maybe a 5%, 10% position in a growth portfolio is appropriate for you, but it all depends. We have that interview with you up front to see. But with this winner here today, MP, which honestly I was getting very frustrated with. We have a 25% gain in it as of yesterday. But with today's move, it's at $46.31. We bought our position at $26.73 during the low of the market this year, and that puts our emerging growth portfolio up about 9%. uh so far this year which is not bad it's done very well it's it's tripled the returns almost of the russell 2000 small cap index because we're cherry picking the russell 2000 small cap index right i mean we're looking for those diamonds in the rough and it's a rough it's a rough portfolio i mean we It's very volatile. Sezzle's been a big winner in there for us. It's up 267% so far. Celestica's up 68%. MP's now up 73.2%. New Gold is up 42%. And, of course, we've had some big losers in that portfolio. But nothing more than our worst performer, minus 24% on new scale power, which got caught up in the sell-off earlier this year in nuclear. And we took a 23% hit in Erie Indemnity and insurance stocks. I always talk about the losers. App loving, we sold for 727% profit. back on January the 8th of this year. So it's a wild thing, but it's an area of the market that I love to shop in, that I love to do research on, and I love to find diamonds in the rough. So anyways, MP Materials. Okay, back to Trump. He doesn't want a half percent rate cut from the Fed. He says that the Fed is three full percentage points too high right now. I don't know if most economists would agree with that, but I think if he says 3%, he'd be happy with 1%. That seems to be his style. But he calls on the Fed to cut rates by at least three percentage points. And I'm sure Jerome Powell will go along with that at the next meeting. I don't think so.
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We'll be right back.
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This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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Call out the instigator because there's something in the air.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. I read this morning, Russia is ramping up drone production at an unprecedented scale. What do they have in mind? You know, it would seem that, and I think Trump has verified this, that they're not interested in just settling the war with Ukraine on the land that they have taken from them. It sounds like they want the whole enchilada, all of Ukraine. And would they stop there? I think on the one hand they've exhausted a lot of their resources. How many men have they lost? Very costly to them, 300,000. But this ramping up the drone production doesn't sound like they're ready to sit down and smoke the peace pipe with Zelensky. But the two things that stick out to me are number one, the use of drones, how drones have just exploded in use as a military weapon. and also the ambitions that Putin seems to have, which I think should be worrisome to not only Europe but to the whole world. And obviously they're planning on more than just what they've got now. Now, Embraer is caught up a little bit in this strike situation, or this tariff war. Embraer is down 8.5% today. I would think, this is just me from a logical point of view, Brazil can't accept a 50% tariff. On their goods, I've got to believe that the U.S. is one of their biggest customers. And I would think that something would have to give there. And this may be an opportunity. We already own the stock and we've done well with it. We actually own it in the relative value portfolio, and it just became even more of a relative value right now. With the forward P.E. ratio of, let me look, I'm thinking about 15 as I do this math in my head. The forward P.E. is actually 25. But that's not too bad for the growth that ERJ Embraer has seen. Now, speaking of airlines, the economy can't be in too bad a shape. Look at Delta today. Delta reported earnings. Delta is a member of the S&P 500. Delta is probably the best as far as a stock goes. I don't have much interest in airline stocks myself. But Delta Airlines soars and leads the airline sector higher after issuing a strong outlook. Okay, well, isn't that good news? Isn't that a bellwether of many things? I mean, when I travel to these cities, and of course Detroit's next on our list, more specifically Bloomington, Bloomfield Hills. I always get Minnesota. We go to Bloomington in Minnesota, and we go to Bloomfield Hills in Michigan, and my brain gets cross-wired a lot. But we'll be there August 5th and 6th. Probably be flying Delta out there. Sometimes it's United, depending on where we're headed. But most of the time it's Delta. And business travel, when I sit on the plane, it's a lot of business people. And, of course, a lot of just regular folks going back and forth, maybe to visit family or whatnot. But anyways, Delta has a blowout earnings. Maybe that's not a good term to use. We don't want to blow out on the Delta Airlines. But anyways, their sales were up 0% year over year. That's why I'm, as a growth investor, that's why I don't own airline stocks. And their earnings came in at $2.10, which is down 11% from last year. You say, well, it was down 11%. That's not a very good report, Bill. Yes, but it's also compared with what the estimate was. And they obviously beat their estimates by a wide margin. Airline stocks trade at very low P.E. ratios. Delta is trading at nine times earnings and it's been trading as low as five times earnings this year. They get low P.E. ratios because it's not a growth industry. But Delta stock is up 13.5% today, the economy camp being too bad. And out there on the M&A front, how many, remember all of these shows on TV sponsored by Kellogg of Battle Creek? which is out there in Michigan, speaking of Michigan, Battle Creek, Michigan. That stock is up 31% today. Now, Kellogg spun it off not too long ago. This is the WK Kellogg, which is the ready-to-eat cereals and other grain-based convenience food products. This is an American staple. is being bought out by Ferrero, which, if I'm not mistaken, is an Italian company. They make those chocolates, those really good Ferrero chocolates. ShareSkyrocket and W.K. Kellogg reported Ferrero is nearing a $3 billion deal to acquire the cereal maker. Well, I wonder if Trump will step in and say, no, you can't buy one of America's great companies. Hands off. I don't know. We'll see. But right now, that's the deal. Kellogg is also a non-growth company. And it is big time today as a foreign company comes in and makes a bold bid for the company. The next $4 trillion company, I would say it's going to be Microsoft. It's definitely not going to be Apple. Apple has fallen out of the growth race for now. They really haven't had much for quite some time. I'm not an investor in Apple. I know it's still a favorite of many, many people, and many people out there have very large gains in Apple. But I just looked at the company as it is today, and I don't see the kind of creativity and new products coming out of Apple. I think Microsoft, with their big position in AI, their very strong position with ChatGPT, which I do use a lot. When I've got more of a specific question, you can usually get that answer from ChatGPT and save you a whole heck of a lot of time on searching the web. Wedbush says that Microsoft is the next $4 trillion company. I would agree with that. And Microsoft is still holding here at Gundersen Capital Advantage, but not as big as it used to be. Taiwan Semiconductor, how are they doing? Well, their Q2 sales rise 39%, speaking of AI. And Taiwan has been hitting new all-time highs here recently. It's now a $1.2 trillion market cap company. They continue to grow at north of 20% per year. Their most recent quarter, their earnings were up 54%. Their sales were up 36%. I know what you're saying. That sounds like it's in Bill Gunderson's wheelhouse. And yes, it is in Bill Gunderson's wheelhouse. We own Taiwan TSM in two of our portfolios. the biggest maker of chips in the world. Remember, most of these companies, AMD, Nvidia, etc., they don't make their chips. They send them to Taiwan Semiconductor, which now has a factory, a plant in the U.S., but still mostly in Taiwan and you're always going to have that that black cloud hanging over it of China you know wanting to take Taiwan how much did Meta pay to lure Apple's rooming paying for their AI efforts well We're learning now today that this gentleman, who is a key hire for Meta's new super-intelligent division, I don't know what it takes to be called super-intelligent. $200 million is what it's worth, though, in the range that this guy is in. Well, what did they pay Ohtani? What did the Dodgers pay Shohei Ohtani? What's a cool $200 million to head up the AI division at Facebook is probably a bargain, really, when you think of how much the Dodgers are paying Ohtani. You can tell I have it in for the Dodgers a little bit, you know, being a San Diego guy. But they are in first place, as usual. And we're chasing the Dodgers, as usual. And now Apple's chasing Meta. As far as AI goes, and they lost a guy. They lost a big player in their Meta. I think I'm going to send my... resume over to zuckerbucks and see if he considers me super intelligent find out what i'm worth oh well i'm probably not in that that league tesla i san francisco bay area for robo taxi expansion within months now i stood there at fisherman's wharf Had a great Dungeness crab cocktail at Skoma's. Just once in your life, go to Skoma's or the Tadditch Grill in San Francisco and have a Dungeness crab cocktail, some sourdough bread, and a nice cup of New England clam chowder or Manhattan, either one. They're both very good. And I watched those Waymos traveling around, which is a very eerie sight to some degree. But pretty soon we're going to see Tesla robo-taxis, and we'll be back in mid-September and have a workshop in the Bay Area and a meet and greet and personal appointments with folks. That comes after we get Michigan done. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. I see Tesla up. 3.2% today, probably on the San Francisco Bay Area robo-taxi news. But, you know, everything I read is it was an underwhelming debut in Austin with their robo-taxi. And, you know, look, Musk is eventually going to get it right. It would seem to me that right now Waymo has a pretty big lead on him in that category. But never count Elon out. And that is helping the stock here today. Now, I want to talk about Detroit just for a minute and San Francisco, the Bay Area. Detroit is August the 5th and 6th. We will be at the Kingsley Hotel in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, which is a beautiful place. I think it's a Double Three Hilton or something like that. But it's a very classic place. With a great restaurant there. Man, I really enjoyed staying there last time. But this time we're going to add a new wrinkle. I'm going to teach a workshop on Tuesday night. They've got a nice conference room. There's lots of parking there at the Kingsley out back. Very nice parking lot. You don't have to worry about that. And you can see me and the team in person, and I'm going to try to whatever is the best topic I can find at that point in time and a little bit of a general overlay on my strategy and the methodology behind my methods and how it came about and some good examples of that in the market today, etc. So that's going to be Tuesday night. August the 5th at 7 p.m. at the Kingsley Bloomfield Hills. Give Edie a call to reserve a seat. We were full in Sarasota and in Cleveland, and we'll be full in Detroit to reserve a spot. Call 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. We're about three weeks out from that trip right now. And to meet with us in person, we reserve one hour of time during Tuesday and Wednesday. We put in a couple of long days there, but that's probably one of my favorite things to do in this industry is meet with folks face-to-face and get to know you a little bit and see if there's any way we can help you. And you can reserve one of those spots over those two days, August 5th and 6th. That's a Tuesday and Wednesday in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Give Edie a call at 855-611-BEST or go on to our website at GundersenCapital.com. After that, sometime in mid-September, We've got to work our way around deer and moose season in Minnesota. So we're going to go to California in mid-September. It's still pretty nice weather there in September. We get those Santa Ana winds in California. And we're going to visit the Bay Area, one of my favorite places on Earth. And we're going to do the same thing. We'll be in the Santa Clara area. Tuesday, we'll do a workshop at 7 p.m., meet and greet, and Tuesday and Wednesday, we'll have one-hour slots available in California. We don't have the exact spot location yet, but it's going to be sometime in mid-September. It's not too early to reserve a space, a spot with us. Edie does a great job of setting the appointments, organizing everything. That same 855-611, best number. Then Minnesota and Houston, hopefully, are before the end of 2025. We look at Minnesota in mid-October before the blizzards hit, and moose season's usually over by then. They're not ice fishing yet out on the lake, and we'll probably be there in October, and then in November we'll probably be looking at Houston. All right, so anyways, that is the schedule for the remainder of 2025. We'll be looking at Pittsburgh sometime early next year, I would think. Okay, copper. Copper definitely in play in Fuego right now. Should you play copper? Well, I think Trump did our copper producers a big favor, I mean, by slapping 50% tariffs on copper coming into the U.S. Freeport-McMoran, obviously, would be the biggest play there. I'm going to look at Freeport today. FCX, which is actually headquartered in Phoenix. By the way, there's a lot of copper in Arizona. I had a friend in the church that had a big claim to a huge... I don't know what became of that. He eventually passed away, but I think that his claim there... in Arizona was pretty massive on copper. Freeport-McMoran is hitting a new – well, it's on a nice run right now. But you've got to realize that mining stocks can be – look at MP Materials. It's been all over the map. But when you think copper, Freeport-McMoran, and I would say the other one is southern Peru – copper which used to be scco does it still have the same symbol yes now they call it southern copper it is headquartered in phoenix arizona also believe it or not the the but they have a lot of in peru and mexico where there's some huge copper deposits I'm not a fan of mining stocks, iron ore. Back when China was booming, that was one of the best momentum sectors I ever saw. But these days, I don't know. It's a little bit on the dicey side. Palantir gets their target price raised at Wedbush. It continues to be a category killer. And I saw a big move in Intel yesterday. They're looking to sell off Mobileye, which is their autonomous car part of their business. And Intel had a big day yesterday. If you're a deep value turnaround type investor, which isn't really my cup of tea, I like to see some progress being made in that turnaround first. And Intel, you know, they still have their sales down 28% or earnings down 28% year over year. And their earnings, their sales are totally flat to down. and earnings have been tanking lately. But the stock had a huge day yesterday, and it's probably on this deal. Someone will buy Mobileye from them, I'm sure, and they can diversify or get out of that business and focus on their chip business more. All right, well, we're out of time. We covered a lot of ground here today. MP Materials, definitely the stock of the day, symbol MP. Upcoming workshop and trips to first Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, and then to the Bay Area, San Francisco. Looking forward to meeting the folks, 855-6-INVEST. And, of course, we meet with folks every day all over the country. via Zoom or telephone, 855-611. Best to sample our wares, go to GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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