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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.
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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you're each treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that i get to work with that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy thursday producer joe Happy Thursday, Kim. And Joe, last night the girls came over, so I took advantage of the Hooters Wednesday Wings Day special. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free, and that's for to go or to dine in. And they have great specials for lunch and for happy hour as well. Their locations are Westminster, Loveland, and the one on Parker Road, the one in Lone Tree near me, Their final day is going to be this Sunday. So be sure and drop by between now and Sunday and wish them all very, very well. Hooters Restaurants will continue to be a sponsor of both the Kim Monson Show and America's Veterans Stories, and I greatly appreciate that. how I got to know them. It's a really important story when I was on city council. And it's a story about the proper role of government and PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties that try to control things instead of allow the free markets and capitalism to to exist, and that whole story is on my website. You can check that out. But again, I greatly appreciate Hooters restaurants and thank them for all that they do for us. Let's see, let's get into several of these things here. First thing, I think you'll love the word of the day, and it is pugnacious. And it is spelled, Eric, I know that you want the spelling on this, so hold on here. It's P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S, pugnacious. It's an adjective, and it could be combative in nature or belligerent, disposed to fight. inclined to fighting quarrelsome or fighting. I would say that the definition of the radical activists on the left that have taken over the Democrat Party are quite pugnacious. So your challenge is to use pugnacious in a sentence today. Second hour, we'll be talking with Rob Nadelson and he reached out. He said, Kim, I do this in Montana and I think it'd be great to do here in out of the Denver market as well. And that is ask Rob Nadelson. And so we'll be talking about the Supreme Court. the Constitution, and that will be in the second hour, the second, third, and fourth segments. You can call in. That number is 303-477-5600. And don't be shy, but if you are shy, you can text me at 720-605. 0647. And because of that, I was looking for Constitution quotes for the day. And I've got a great one with, let's see, Abraham Lincoln at the end of the show. But I found this from Andrew Napolitano. He was born in 1950. He's an American jurist and syndicated columnist whose work appears in numerous publications. including the Washington Times and Reason Magazine. He served as a New Jersey Superior Court judge, and he also served as a visiting professor at Widener University, Delaware Law School, Seton Hall University of Law, and the Brooklyn Law School, and he's a regular on Fox as well. So this is what he said. All presidents but Jefferson have argued that their first job was to keep us safe. All presidents but Jefferson were wrong. If you read the Constitution, you will see that the president's first job, as Jefferson understood well, is to keep us free. And that is, I think, a terrific quote from Andrew Napolitano. Next thing I wanted to mention, I talked with a friend of mine yesterday and I hadn't really thought about it. I think one of you had texted in yesterday when Trent Luce was on the show. Trent is a sixth generation farmer and rancher. We talk about issues that affect rural America, rural Colorado, the people that feed and fuel us. And one of you texted in a question about, should we be concerned about China buying up a whole bunch of American farmland? And afterwards, I hadn't seen that. I asked Trent about it. Or maybe I did it on the air. Now I can't remember. And he said, we really probably should be more concerned with all the land that Bill Gates is buying up, all the producing land, because Bill Gates is not so interested in everybody thriving and flourishing. So he said to be concerned about that. But then my colleague called and said, Kim, I am so concerned about the Chinese buying land next to our Air Force bases. And it kind of stopped me in my tracks. I hadn't really thought about it. But just think about the fact that your enemy is right next to your Air Force bases, think about the B-2s that did the mission to take out those nuclear facilities in Iran. If you have your enemy that is right next to your Air Force bases, they could have seen those B-2s take off. They could have followed them. This is a real problem, and so we've got to get that addressed. Not quite sure how to crack that nut on that, but that is something that we need to do for sure. A couple of other things that, let's see, I wanted to mention, oh, our 50, we're going through these 50 wins in the Big Beautiful Bill. This is from whitehouse.gov, and today is number 16, 17, 18, 19, and 20. So 16 says it refills the, okay, this is the big, beautiful bill from the White House, 50 things that it accomplishes. 16, it refills the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to safeguard America's energy security. As we know, Biden drained our Strategic Petroleum Reserve. That seems like that's a national security issue. So good for Donald Trump and company. 17. It repeals and rescinds every green corporate welfare subsidy in Democrats' so-called Inflation Reduction Act.
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It stops illegal immigrants from receiving tax credits and tax remittances sent to foreign countries. I'll have to think about that one to understand it. Number 19, it supports small businesses by increasing the Section 199A deduction to 23%, promoting the growth and success of Main Street. I think Mary Jansen mentioned that yesterday, and she's going to come back on today. She had some additional thoughts on the big, beautiful bill. She's one of my fellow board members. on the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. So we'll talk with her in the next segment. And then number 20, it incentivizes Made in America. The bill rewards companies that build their products in America with lower taxes and allows Americans who buy an American-made vehicle to fully deduct their auto loan interest. So that is number 16 through 20. You can find that at whitehouse.gov. And this is 50 wins in the one big, beautiful bill. Now, I mentioned on a regular basis that we are an independent voice on an independent station. So what that means is that I have full control on guest selection, subject selection. And so we truly, truly are independent. And we're independent because of all of your support and that I get to work with great sponsors who strive for excellence in their particular businesses. And we have Karen Gorday on the line right now. She is the owner of Radiant Painting and Lighting. And she's actually on vacation, but she said she was going to call in on her regular weekly update. Karen Gorday, welcome. Thank you, Kim. Good morning. How are you? I am well. And you are back in Washington, D.C., Williamsburg area, yes? Yes. Yes, ma'am.
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We spent the last two days in Williamstown, Yorktown, Jamestown. It's pretty exciting.
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I have found, I was back to Monticello a few years ago, and standing in these rooms and in the land where our founders walked, I find it so inspiring. So what are you finding?
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I found it very inspiring. There were things that I hate to admit that I forgot over the years or the years since I was in grade school and high school and things that I forgot. And that was really good reminders. And then just what they had to go through, you know, settling in new land and then, you know, rising up against the British. I will tell you the day we were actually in Williamsburg, in colonial Williamsburg, it was 94 degrees with a heat index of 125. And I just couldn't imagine, you know, back in the day, they didn't have air conditioning, right? And they're just exposed to the elements. And really, when you put it all together, what they went through to create our country, It's something that we should really honor and protect. And it's that fragile.
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Well, and we are in a very fragile time. I think Colorado is at the tip of the spear of all of this radical activist stuff. And you have taken time to really understand what is happening. Lakewood, I think, is... is an example of what is happening. And I know that you're on vacation, so I don't know if you have any updates on that or not. But when you get back, I know that you're going to be watching that closely as well. So do you have any updates or have you been watching?
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I do actually. I do actually. So the first reading of the ordinance was supposed to be July 28th. Would you believe, because of the outrage, they have decided to slow roll it just a little bit and the first reading was pushed out to august 11th and i really find that remarkable that this is the first time i can even remember them slow rolling something i wouldn't say it's really slow roll but but delaying things due to the public concern i think it's huge
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Well, you've been at the forefront on that. You've written a very important piece, which I have it on my I have all these different headlines on my outline so that I don't miss them. And it's zoned out how Lakewood is selling out its neighborhoods. People can find that in the Lakewood Informer. And then you were recently quoted in the Denver Post regarding this as well.
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That's correct. And I think in the Denver Post, I was on the phone with the reporter for like 30 minutes and I got one sentence. That's how it works, right?
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It is.
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But it's really, you know, hoping that people show up and make a difference. And I will tell you, I think we've already made a difference with getting that first reading pushed out. And, you know, I've got some things going on behind the scenes that I won't talk about, but I've got some meetings set up for next week. So once I'm back, I can hit the ground running again on this.
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Okay, great. And then you do have a business as well, and that is Radiant Painting and Lighting. And it's hard to believe we're through the 4th of July, which means Christmas is right around the corner. So tell me about Christmas in July at Radiant Painting and Lighting.
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Love it. And how can people reach you?
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And that's paintwithradiant.com. Excited to hear all about your trip when you get back. Godspeed on your travels. And thanks so much, Karen.
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Thank you, Kim. Have a great rest of the day.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we were just talking with Karen Gorday. with Radiant Painting and Lighting. She's back in Virginia, Washington, D.C. area, in the places of our founding, which is so exciting. And she talked about freedom. Well, do you want to have financial freedom? Call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship, information sharing, and a network of smart strategies, a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans. Everything is tailored to you. Call Mint Financial Strategies today at 303-285-3080. That's 303-285-3080. And on the line with me is Mary Jansen. We talked with her yesterday. She is a former city councilwoman in Lakewood. She is also one of my fellow Board members, a volunteer, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, Barry Jansen, welcome.
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Good morning, Kim. I don't know how you do this every day.
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So you're doing it two days in a row and you're complaining, huh?
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I kind of slept in a little bit and I heard your voice. I went, oh my, I have to hurry.
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Well, thanks for doing this because I learned a lot about the Big Beautiful Bill yesterday. And then after the show, you had texted me some other information. And I love this. The first thing you said, yes, inch by inch, life is a cinch. Yard by yard, life is hard. Same with dismantling 60 years of government subsidies. Pick art battles, get the income flowing fast. and get our rights back. I loved that, Mary Jansen.
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Well, thank you. You know, that was taught to me by a neighbor. And when I heard that, I said, because I was always so, so many things going on and I didn't know how to prioritize, you know, what do I need to do first? You know, and that's when she said that to me, it just sunk in. And it was just kind of a rule I live by. It's like, you know, I can't do everything all at once. Let's do, let's take what I know I can do And take care of that first. And the Big Beautiful Bill, to me, is the money. We need to get our diamonds back, right? We need to get the money back so we can control what we can.
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Well, and so there's some other things in the Big Beautiful Bill that you had mentioned. You said it slashes $1.6 trillion in bureaucratic bloat. And that's not getting a lot of press in the mainstream media, I don't think.
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Well, they don't want to get that out because, I mean, the press is against us succeeding. And I did read an article this morning, and it's from the Politico. And the title is, The People Who Brought You Bill Clinton Want to Introduce You to the Colorado Way. And I think everybody should go to read that because it's pretty telling. I'm finding things, the breadcrumbs that were left, to me it seems... wow, just in a matter of 10 years, we've just lost everything here in Colorado.
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Yeah, the Denver vibe is gone. Denver used to be a place, a destination place. I know some people out of state that were, there was a recording artist that was doing a concert here in Denver and in Salt Lake, probably other cities as well. But they made the conscious decision to go to Utah and and not Colorado, and normally they would come to Colorado. So the Denver vibe, it's off, and it's because of this governor and previous Democrat governors and this mayor and then the goofy stuff that's going on in the suburbs as well, such as Lakewood.
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Right, yeah, it's all intertwined. It all has to do with money. I'm calling it a heist. I think they were after money. Because they want to put this national, they want to put their ideas national. So what did they first thing they did is they raised our property taxes by 35, 40% on some people, most people. You know, where did that money go? You know, where did that money go? And so they overcollected. And nobody, except for Lakewood, a little bit, lowered their mill levy to help the people out. Nobody else did.
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And they lowered their mill levy because you were on city council and you proposed that, right?
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I did. I proposed it. But what happened is as soon as I was gone, they raised it back up again.
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And the people of Lakewood miss you. They do. They do.
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Yes. They raised it back up again like two months after I was out of office. Yeah. That's what happens when you don't have anybody there watching for you. And unfortunately in Colorado, I don't know what happens. I'm not going to say anything because if you do, you're considered a denier. But to me, I just feel like I don't know how we're going to do this without making sure our elections are safe and secure.
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Well, we're working on that. Okay, so this piece you mentioned, the people who brought you Bill Clinton want to introduce you to the Colorado Way. I'm going to have to read that. Politico leans to the left, but I need to read that because I don't know what the Colorado Way is exactly.
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Well, it's brought to you by the Progressive Policy Institute, so... Go figure what they're up to. It's a pretty interesting piece, and I started putting things together, and I said, well, if you're going to try to introduce you to the Colorado way, how do you do that? Well, you get a show, you get all the money, and you get all the pieces to the game, right? So what was the best way to do that was to increase our property taxes, and I know that was a national thing. But here in Colorado, it just seemed like it was a lot. And I couldn't, and you try to figure out where did that money go? And then being on cut, I realized that why do we have all these tax credits? You know, what is a tax credit? And then when you start learning what they do with it. That's how they increase your TABER refund.
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Right. They control. And at this point, let's just give a quick shout-out to our fellow board members, all volunteers. And you brought up the point. We pay our $25 dues to do this volunteer job. I know, call us crazy. But actually, the founders, they did a lot of stuff on a volunteer basis as well. In fact, put their lives on the lines. But our fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. Two things. It's only $25, but we send out information, take positions on legislation during the legislative session. We'll be taking positions on some of these issues that will be on the ballot in November. And we're working on our ratings report, which takes a lot of time. But the governor has called a special session, so we're going to have to roll up our sleeves on that. There are those that think that this special session, because they are hungry for more and more money, is they're going to try to do something to really go after Tabor. I don't know that for sure, but, boy, it makes sense.
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It does. It makes sense because they need it so they can do this national rollout, whatever they're planning, you know, their dastardly deeds. We need just to be ready for it. Back to the big, beautiful bill. Can I just quick, because I know I'm getting close to my time. Yes, please. So, the Colorado Chamber of Commerce raised valid concerns about the market disruption, but the strategic tariff rollout forced China to drop its countermeasures and cut levies on U.S. goods from 125% to 10%. Why is that not in the news?
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You know, that is a direct win for domestic competitiveness. So... There's a bunch of stuff that's happening with this big, beautiful bill that the press is not getting out of. And when we listened, you know, Trent was on. God love Trent. I totally understand there's all this stuff going on, but we really need to focus. Focus on what we need to get back first, and it's our control of our finances and make sure we're not in debt so we don't put ourselves in a position where we can't fight back.
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Well, economic freedom, and that's why mint financial strategies on a personal level is so important. And you and I were texting back and forth because one of our listeners said, why is Trent so negative? And so I just asked him that. And I understand, I do understand where you have people that say one thing. We see it all the time here in Colorado with these PBIs. They say one thing. We'll have Republicans that say that they protect Tabor. And then when we're looking at the bills and they might have their name on it and it takes away our Tabor refunds. That is frustrating when that happens, Mary.
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Definitely. And we need to let those people know that, hey, don't mess with my refund. Don't mess with my money. It's our money. If people want to give it away, sure, go ahead.
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If they want to give their own money away, they can.
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Own money away. Don't give my money away. I'll give my money to places that I want to, not what you do. So, yeah, that's kind of where people need to re-understand, I guess. I don't know. Maybe we've lost that. And they use our good, honest people. to make them feel guilty about that they have money. And we shouldn't be that way. We worked hard for that, right?
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I totally agree. And I think there's a paradigm shift. A couple of other things that you, well, another thing that you mentioned in this text is that this isn't about taxing businesses. It's about breaking decades of globalistic exploitation. I thought that was very telling, Mary.
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It totally is. You know, we need to take it piece by piece. And like I said, like, The big, beautiful bill. And, you know, either love him or hate him, Donald Trump, he's a businessman. He knows he's been through this. He understands now. I think when you've been through it, you understand it. You know, when you start losing your money, it's like, oh, my gosh, what am I doing? I've got to do some things different. And he's figured that out, and he's doing that for America. Like I said, not everything in this bill is perfect. You know, you have to deal with people that you have to get along with to get the bill passed. and sometimes you have to give and, you know, pick and choose your battles.
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Well, just great, great information on this, Mary, and thanks for joining us a second day in a row to talk about this. That's, again, that's Mary Jansen, Jansen Photography, as well as she and I are both on the cut board together, and she also is a former Lakewood City Councilwoman. She is, she's an amazing woman. Mary Jansen, thank you.
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I wouldn't go that far. It's just, It's just I've learned a lot, you know, and I give that to Natalie Minton because she taught me so much.
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Oh, she's awesome. She really is. Mary Jansen, thank you so much. We're going to see you very soon. Okay. Thank you, Kim. And saw her last night, and we're going to talk with her in the second hour, and that's Karen Levine, my dear friend, Remax Realtor. And if you're buying a home, selling a home, looking at a new build, you need to reach out to her and have her on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives today. fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And also, as you know, I highlight the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, co-founded by Drew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient for actions he took during the Vietnam War, and Brad Padula, who is an Emmy Award-winning documentary maker. But Drew has started a new podcast series. It's called Words from the Silo. And I highly recommend that you add this into a valued resource. His most recent podcast is Our Changing Culture. It was published yesterday. But he's got another one, Homeland Security and the Inside Threat, that was published right before Independence Day. So take a look at all of those. Really great information. You can find that at AmericanValueCenter.org. Our next guest, Greg Walcher, is one of the most recognized and respected national leaders in natural resources policy. In addition to his popular blog, Resources and Reality, he writes a weekly newspaper column on Western resource issues and is the author of Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back. It's in its second printing. And he speaks, a very popular speaker throughout the nation as well. Greg Walcher, welcome to the show.
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Thank you. Good morning.
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And I wanted to talk with you about two of your most recent publications. The first is regarding – and this was published in June – Supreme Court nips NEPA, which is a good start. And NEPA is the – I don't have that right here –
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The National Environmental Policy Act. This is the procedural law that requires federal agencies to consider the environmental impacts of their decisions and frequently to publish environmental impact statements or environmental assessments.
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Okay. Now, is NEPA a good idea or a bad idea?
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Well, it was a good idea when it was passed. We shouldn't make... major decisions without at least understanding what environmental impacts they may have. So it was a very well-intentioned law, and it has functioned that way for a very long time since the 1970s, early 70s. But it also has evolved to the point where the abuse of it is legendary, and it is used not just to consider impacts of the decision but to delay projects. and to stop projects, which was clearly never the intention of Congress. So the Supreme Court used a Utah transportation case that also involved Eagle County, Colorado, to say, wait a minute, you don't have to consider the impacts of every single potential environmental consequence that may result in some completely different area in some future date. That's not what it was intended to do. It's a very interesting case that involved the Surface Transportation Board approving an 80-mile rail line in Utah, but it was challenged by a bunch of national environmental organizations and by Eagle County, Colorado, on the theory that someday, if they built this 80-mile rail line, that it would be used to transport oil from the Uinta Basin in Colorado to refineries in Texas, through Eagle County, Colorado, by way of Denver. And the Supreme Court, actually unanimously, which is quite rare, said, no, you can't demand that the Surface Transportation Board speculate on whether or not oil is going to be hauled out of that region, whether it will go through Eagle County, whether it will go to Texas and be refined, whether it will ever be sold anywhere or not is just beyond the scope of what that law was intended to do. And it's a precedent-setting ruling that I think will have very far-reaching consequences when agencies are no longer required to consider the most extreme possible consequences rather than the local environmental consequences of what they're being asked to do.
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And, yes, speculation. So the law, so it's the National Environmental Protection Act, NEPA, has been, as you say, abused to the point, instead of looking at this saying, okay, there's this rail line, it's going to go through this, it might affect this grass line, it might affect this, this, those things right there. That's really what it was intended for as the law, right? Right.
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Yes, and it's the same kind of thing as saying we're going to list polar bears as endangered and we're going to blame that on global warming, and therefore we can use the polar bears as an excuse to regulate power plants in Arizona because they may have some effect in the future on the climate, and the climate may in some indirect way have some effect on polar bears. It's just too far reached. The Supreme Court... has reigned in that as well. And so I'm looking at a trend at the Supreme Court that says we're maybe soon getting past this era of using every environmental law to stop every project in America. That's not the intent of it, of course, is to make sure that we don't foul the air and pollute the water. But to use that as an excuse to simply stop all human activity is not the intent of those laws, and they're being abused to the point where the where the court has unanimously, again, I emphasize how rare that is, said, no, that's an overreach. It isn't what those laws were intended to do, and we're going to put a stop to it.
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Okay, and so you said that this ruling, and you alluded to this, that this may affect the Endangered Species Act. And I remember the first time that I heard you speak, Greg Walcher, you had talked about endangered species. And you mentioned the polar bears. And you said, okay, they're endangered. How many more do you want? And... And actually, the polar bear population has grown. But it seems that, again, the Endangered Species Act has been used to prevent, I would ultimately say, human flourishing and prosperity. Now, we have a duty to be good stewards of of our Earth, that's for sure. But that doesn't, not at the expense of no human flourishing, because I think that that's kind of first and foremost that we need to be focused on.
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Yeah, the polar bear situation is especially ironic because we now know that the polar bears are not endangered. In fact, there are many times more of them than there were 50 years ago. Maybe we've gone from as few as 500 bears to more than 3,000 all over the world now. So it's not an endangered species. The better example from the court docket is the dusky gopher frog where the court weighed in because the Fish and Wildlife Service was trying to designate critical habitat in completely different states where there were no dusky gopher frogs and where in fact they couldn't live if they were there. And the court said, no, the critical habitat has to be in places where the species actually live or where there's habitat that they could live and that their survival may depend on, but not designating habitat all over Mississippi and Texas for a species that lives only in a particular place in Louisiana. That's the kind of precedent that I'm talking about, where these environmental laws were being used as a tool to stop human activity in places where it had nothing to do with the species and the court has said no we're not going to let you continue that that type of overreach it has become common of course in this country but it's about time that that the court is starting to say there is a limit to that
SPEAKER 05 :
What about California? I remember the Delta smelt, that that was used to restrict access for farmers to water to be able to plant crops, and that area became quite dry. Is that the same thing? Was that an endangered species decision as well?
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It was, and then there's plenty of other examples of it as well, and sometimes not even with endangered species. Sometimes it's this NEPA process we're talking about. where, for example, the NEPA was used in the Klamath River Basin to say that the existence of four dams that have been there more than a century were a threat to a species of salmon, which is not a listed endangered species there, by the way, but it was nevertheless used as a tool to literally dismantle and tear down those four historic dams in the Klamath Basin, and that has dried up hundreds of thousands of acres of farms, and killed communities and devastated agricultural families in a way that I think, anyway, that NEPA was never intended to do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is there going to be any remedy to what happened there on the Klamath River for these people?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I don't know that anybody's going to suggest going back and rebuilding those four dams, but it's very, very hard. partly because of NEPA, to get approval to build a water project of any kind in this country. It's the reason that Congress essentially quit authorizing major water projects 50 years ago. So I don't know whether there's any remedy for actions like that that have already been taken. But it's insane to talk about dismantling infrastructure that we already have and where the politics already got fought over many years ago and in many cases These reservoirs have become enormously important, not only as recreational resources for the communities nearby, but also as wildlife habitat. And so, obviously, I wasn't asked to vote on whether to destroy those dams, but it was a bad idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was a terrible idea. And then we've talked about water in the West before, but my friend Yvonne has said you can't have water conservation without water storage. And so these different metropolitan areas that are trying to use the guise of economic development to bring people to, for example, to Denver, but not really thinking about water storage, I think it's very short-sighted, Greg Walcher.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it misses the whole point of water conservation, as you say. In places like the arid west, that's the only thing that mankind can control and that we ought to be concerned about. We can't control the amount of snow that falls on Colorado, but our state loses a significant portion of the water that it's entitled to use every year because it doesn't have enough storage capacity in any of the eight river basins to store all the water Colorado is entitled to. And so we can't control the amount of precipitation we get. We can control how much of it we store during the dry periods to use during the wet periods. Storage we can control.
SPEAKER 05 :
But yet NEPA has been used to prevent water storage projects, and you just connect the dots, and that means that there could be water shortages because of poor planning and poor action, I think, Greg Walcher.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that's right. That's right. The last major water project built in Colorado was... which was built by the Parker Water and Sanitation District, the Ruder Hess Reservoir. It took 30 years to get approvals to finally get built. And NEBA was intended to make sure that we consider environmental impacts and mitigate them to the extent that we can. It was not intended to stop projects like that, and it almost did in that case.
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Wow. Fascinating. So you can find this at Greg Walcher. That's G-R-E-G-W-A-L-C-H-E-R dot com. And you do write this column on a regular basis as well. The next essay or article that we're going to talk about is absolutely fascinating. And it's just stay tuned. We'll keep that as a cliffhanger. I'm talking with Greg Walcher. And it is important we have these conversations and they happen because of sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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It's an interesting thing for people who follow science that we've gone from the ability to clone sheep in the 1990s in Scotland to to a new ability, apparently, to recreate extinct species, not just endangered ones. There's a guy named George Church, who is a Harvard genetics professor, who led a team that finally figured out how to break this technological barrier. We've had speculation for years that they might someday be able to recreate woolly mammoths, for example, because there are several carcasses that have been found frozen, and so they might have that ability, but this team figured out how to do that Not starting with woolly mammoths, interestingly enough, but they've announced the birth of three dire wolves. Some of your listeners may recognize dire wolves from Dungeons and Dragons or Game of Thrones. It's a species that is said to have been extinct for 30,000 years. But starting with DNA that they could extract from a 13,000-year-old tooth and a 72,000-year-old skull... George Church's team figured out how to recreate dire wolves. They are potentially very dangerous animals. They're more than twice the size of the gray wolves that have been reintroduced back into Colorado. They are wolves that stand four feet high and eight feet long. They're bigger than human beings and could be potentially very, very dangerous. I mean, it's a fascinating thing, and there's all kinds of potential. to it if you think about, I mean, there are some endangered species and some extinct species even that might be fascinating. Dodo birds, for example, which used to inhabit the island of Mauritius, are extinct only because humans killed them all. So if somebody wants to repopulate Mauritius with dodo birds, I think that might be kind of cool. But dire wolves are a little bit different. It makes me think, you know, what if they decided to bring back Tyrannosaurus Rex or to repopulate the world with velociraptors? And, you know, Jurassic Park was a great accomplishment by Steven Spielberg. It was a great fantasy and quite entertaining. But if we actually have that technological ability, it just makes me think there's a huge ethical question here that somebody other than George Church ought to decide. No one's ever heard of George Church. Somebody ought to be involved in deciding what species we might want to use this new technology on. There's no public process for it. There's no law regulating it. And so some Harvard professor and a team of lab technicians could just make a decision like that that could have enormous consequences for mankind. And it just makes me think ethical questions that big ought to have some kind of public process for decision-making. Who gets to decide what species we're going to recreate and what's the process for that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm thinking – I find it interesting to recreate a species when they're saying – well, humans get blamed for global warming, but yet – Other species emit the same things, such as methane. So new species would be emitting more of that. It's like, why would you want to bring in more species when yet they're so concerned about the human population and what that's doing to the Earth? Are you following me on that? Does that make any sense?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, it does. I mean, it's just raising a question more than an answer. I saw where the Secretary of the Interior, Doug Burgum, said, this is really exciting. We could do a lot of good in recovering endangered species. I agree with that. And in some cases, possibly even extinct species, some of which, quite a few of which, man is responsible for. So, you know, the last Tasmanian tiger died off in the 1930s. They were killed by people. So if somebody, if some Australian process decided that they want to recreate Tasmanian tigers and repopulate what mankind killed off, whether that was a wise decision or not. My point is just somebody ought to decide that other than a researcher in a lab. Australia is a democratic society, as is the United States, and so the public ought to be involved in that decision. If they want to recreate the half-horse, half-zebra quagga that... used to, you know, they had the last one died in a zoo in the 1880s, but they're dead because people killed them. So if people decide that they want to recreate them, I'm okay with that. My only point about it is that people ought to decide that in some kind of a process for which we have no law and no regulation, no system in place to decide, you know, what species we're going to work on. And so in the absence of that, We just have some team at Harvard that made unilaterally the decision to bring back dire wolves.
SPEAKER 05 :
And in your piece, I'm looking at the image that you have, the timber wolf. You said the shoulder height is two and a half feet, body length is six feet. That's a big animal. That's a pretty good-sized animal. But the dire wolf is three and a half feet at shoulder height, and you mentioned a body length of eight feet. We're having enough trouble out here with this timber wolf and attacking livestock, wildlife. There's going to be at some point a human interaction here. And that's going to be a problem. And so I agree. I would really question. And we do actually have three dire wolf cubs that are living at this time?
SPEAKER 08 :
We do. They're living in a captive environment created by this Harvard team. They're already speculating, though, that they want to release them. into the wild, they're talking about some kind of a protected preserve. The professor says maybe on indigenous lands without any idea what that means, but assuming he's talking about some tribal reservation, my first question is, has anyone asked a tribe if they want dire wolves or not? And the answer is no, nobody has asked anybody. So, you know, those are huge animals. And, I mean, a calf doesn't stand a chance against a gray wolf pack. In Colorado, a full-blown bull elk doesn't stand a chance against a dire wolf. So there needs to be some process for deciding whether or not that's a good idea.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gosh, so you're really raising the issue and raising the question, which is it really is an ethical question. And it's really fascinating. We've got probably about a minute left. Greg, I always learn so much from you. And the amount of time that you put into the research on each of these articles is amazing. What's your final thought to leave with our listeners today?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm afraid that we may have raised more questions than answers. But a lot of these issues are questions, and to the extent that we all care about the environment, which I think we all do passionately, the public is entitled to weigh in on issues that may have severe environmental consequences. And so I'm just raising the question on issues like this, who gets to decide? In the case of the NEPA process we talked about at the beginning, does Eagle County get to decide whether Utah builds an 80-mile rail line? The answer is no. Okay, does some Harvard professor by himself get to decide if we want to recreate velociraptors? My answer is someone other than him ought to be involved in that decision.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think that makes a lot of sense. And Greg, I really appreciate it. People can find you at gregwalter.com. You have an extensive list of all the pieces that you've written, and they're right there on the website. So I'd highly recommend that people check that out. And then I have your book on my bookshelf at home, and that is Smoking Them Out, The Theft of the Environment and How to Take It Back. Greg Walter, we will talk with you again very soon. It goes quickly. I learned so much, and I thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you. Good to be with you.
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Now, Joe, the show comes to you live 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. The second hour, 10 to 11 at night. So this first hour that we just finished with Greg Walcher will be on again today at 2. And then people can also listen to it at Spotify and iTunes after we get all of it, everything posted. It was a pretty fascinating conversation. First of all, we talked about NEPA, which is the, oh, now I can't remember. It's environmental law, the National Environmental Act that was passed back in the 70s. But in his second segment, we talked about the reclaiming species that are extinct and what could that mean and and he mentioned this dire wolf uh that there's been um it was extinct and then there were some researchers that there are now three live cubs of this dire wolf i didn't know about that you but you said you've been watching this issue
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Yeah, I really like science, so I generally was watching it just on the curiosity and also just thinking about what could happen. And I think Jurassic Park is a probability in that.
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If they continue on that. So fascinating discussion. You can find that at gregwalter.com. So let's see. Let's get into the things that we like to do on a regular basis. First of all, I like to say thank you to our sponsors. And one of those is Laramie Energy. I thank them for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So just think about it. There is a real attack upon oil, natural gas, and coal. So that means there's an attack upon the things that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So just connect that dot. I think that's pretty important. And the people that are doing that are very pugnacious, which just happens to be our word of the day. And pugnacious is spelled P-U-G-N-A-C-I-O-U-S. It could be combative in nature or belligerent. disposed to fight, inclined to fighting, quarrelsome or fighting. And yes, those that are opposed to human flourishing and prosperity are quite pugnacious these days. Our quote of the day is from Andrew Napolitano. And he said this. He said that all presidents but Jefferson have argued that their first job was to keep us safe. All presidents but Jefferson were wrong. If you read the Constitution, you will see that the president's first job, as Jefferson understood it well, is to keep us free. And I was talking with one of our listeners yesterday. She said, Kim, I think that we should put together a list of all the freedoms that we've lost over the last 100 years, basically since the Woodrow Wilson administration, which was the progressive administration that wanted to move freedom. America from a representative government to a government of those that are smarter, those elites, the administrative state, people that are not elected, but yet they would be making decisions about our lives. And one of the things about bureaucrats is they are insulated from the responsibility of their decisions. They're unaccountable and they're unelected. And that is totally antithetical to the American idea. And as I mentioned, our sponsors, I know each and every one of them personally, they strive for excellence in their chosen fields. And on the line with me is my dear friend, and that is REMAX Realtor, award-winning realtor, Karen Levine. Karen, welcome. Good morning, Kim. And the girls were over last night. You were over. We had a great time. But people had a lot of questions about inventory, that real estate inventory here in the metro area, because we're seeing something that we aren't used to, and that's more for sale signs.
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That is correct. That is correct. We have more inventory than we've seen in probably about 15 years. And during the COVID era, we were complaining about shortage of inventory and due to the shortage of inventory and the abundance of interest in people wanting to buy real estate and to buy at very, very favorable interest rates. we found that we had low supply, high demand, and so values, prices went up. And they went up quite quickly and quite a lot. And then people complained because their tax assessments went up because those are based on values from 18 months prior to the assessment value given. and now um we are seeing our inventory increase because of a variety of reasons people are relocating desiring to leave our state creating inventory life cycle people are moving into smaller homes or assisted living situations because of our aging population and so we have more homes which means that for the first time in over a decade Buyers in many situations, not all, because as you and I've talked about, real estate is local. But there are opportunities where buyers have more room for negotiating. They have more opportunity. with these higher interest rates to maybe have the seller assist them in buying down the interest rate to something that's more tolerable either short-term or potentially long-term by buying the rate down from its current market, say, at 7. Maybe they can get 6.75, maybe 6.58. for 30 years, or do what's known as a 2-1 buy-down, which I know Lauren's talked about, where you buy the rate down for 2% the first year, 1% the second year, so you ease into that ultimate payment.
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Okay. And there was, in a seller's market, there were people that said, I don't really need a realtor anymore. I can just put a sign out in my yard. And that worked for some people that would actually do research. But you and I have talked about it. There's so many different touches on buying a home or selling a home. It is important that unless you want to go through and do all that research, you really need to have a professional helping you with this.
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Well, I like to consider myself the professional in real estate. And if you're looking to do a real estate transaction and it's something that most consumers do once every decade, once every 12 to 15 years. The market changes, the environment changes, the regulations change, and those are things that are difficult for the consumer to keep up on. And the same is true if we are looking for legal assistance or medical assistance. Typically, your home purchase is your largest investment that you make in your lifetime. And so having a professional on your side, having me on your side, I'm going to be there to advocate for you, to educate you, to give you the pros and cons of each of the negotiable items, each of those touch points, so that you know what your exposure is, your vulnerability is, and what your opportunity for success would be.
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And that is so important, again, both on the buy and the sell side. Now, I've seen that there's some new developments that are being built now as well. So tell us just a little bit about a new build.
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Well... New construction is a great opportunity for a lot of or for some homebuyers in that if you're willing, in most cases, to go a little bit farther out because that's where our vacant land is, you can find favorable pricing, but also builders are giving those incentives. interest rate incentives to move their inventory. So sometimes you can buy a new home and have payments that are similar or maybe less than a resale property that's farther in town. And so my call out or my request is if you're interested in new construction, you want somebody on your side in that transaction as well, because when you go to visit those onsite projects you go and visit the person that is there they are representing the builder and their goal is to sell as many houses as they can at the highest prices and navigating a builder contract is even different than a standard real estate contract and so i have background in new home construction and can bring again additional knowledge to that arena to that scenario and help you in negotiating and purchasing a new home. Builders just ask that you bring your realtor with you on the first visit.
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Okay, and so how can people reach you, Karen Levine?
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They can reach me at 303-877-7516.
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It's good to be with you, Kim. And let me just say that I'm surprised that in President Washington's rules of civility, he did not say, in addition to drumming your fingers and humming while other people are talking, he did not say, don't just keep scrolling down on your smartphone while other people are talking.
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Well done, Rob Nadelson. Well done. And your book, The Original Constitution, what it actually said and meant, it's in another printing, isn't it?
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Yeah, we just had to go to the fourth edition. The book came out in 2009, and what it's designed to do is to provide a guide to the average person, a person who is a lawyer or a constitutional expert, as to what the Constitution actually meant, right after the adoption of the Bill of Rights. And it did well. It quickly went into a second edition in 2010, a third edition in 2015, and then we held back for an entire decade. And the fourth edition is just out. People say, well, why do you have more editions? The original Constitution hasn't changed. And that's true. but additional research is done, and sometimes people develop interests in issues that they didn't have. So we included some more and additional information on impeachment, because since the last edition, there had been two presidential impeachments. So the current one is now available on Amazon. The best way to get it is actually to go to the Independence Institute website, independenceinstitute.org, Go to the Constitution tab and you'll see it advertised.
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Okay. So that's great. And I need to get that next edition because a lot has happened since 2015. Oh, yeah.
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Regarding that. The whole immigrant controversy as well as impeachment.
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So I'd really, again, this is a book that I would recommend that people have in their Freedom Library on their shelves at home. Now, Rob Niedelsen, you reached out to me and said, hey, there's something that's pretty cool that's happening in Montana. And it's probably would be a good idea for our market here today. in Denver, in Colorado, actually, I think, for the whole nation to partake in something like this. So set this up. What have you been doing with this station back in Montana?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, to answer that question, Kim, requires a little bit of background. As some listeners know, I was a law professor for 25 years. And most of that time I spent at the University of Montana, where I taught constitutional law and many other courses. And I for a portion of that i was a frequent guest on local radio and then for a portion of that time i actually hosted the morning drive time show and people began to call me with questions about the law about the constitution um and i would answer them and so after i finished being the host we continued that i'm on this radio station every month and on statewide radio quite frequently as well, just answering people's questions about the Constitution. So I thought it would be nice to do something like that in Denver. How it works is that people call into the studio line. Generally speaking, they can ask their question on the air. They can stay on the line while I answer it. Sometimes they can do a follow-up. Of course, you can't get too long-winded. You can't throw 75 questions at me and ask me to give a lecture because other people want to call in. But if people do want to participate in that and get their constitutional questions answered, I can do that. One other thing, Kim, sometimes people ask questions about pending cases, local court cases. I can't comment on those because I'm not involved with them. But I can comment on constitutional issues and often on other issues that go up before the U.S. Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that call-in number, so we will start to take call-ins now, is 303-477-5600. Don't be shy. The text line, if you are shy, is 720-605-0647. So let's jump into this. So there's been a whole bunch of Supreme Court decisions that have been released, and this is for this term. I know that you've explained that before, but if somebody didn't hear that, explain the Supreme Court, their different terms, how this whole thing works.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure. The Supreme Court is the only court that is specified in the Constitution of the pursuant to authority given to Congress by the Constitution. And that, by the way, becomes relevant later on if we talk about this universal injunction decision, the so-called nationwide injunction decision, that the fact that other courts are simply created by Congress becomes important. Anyway, the Supreme Court is given jurisdiction by Congress, again, pursuant to authorization from the Constitution. And it hears appeals on federal issues that arise either from the state courts or from the lower federal courts. So the federal court system, you've got district courts at the trial level and then intermediate appellate courts. One sits here in Denver, the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. And then any opinion or decision from those lower courts or not anyone, but many of them, can be heard by the Supreme Court if the loser asks that the Supreme Court review it and the Supreme Court agrees. The Supreme Court, for historical reasons, treats each annual session as a term. It calls it a term. And it's called the October term because it begins in October. So the October 2024 term It began in October of 2024, and then it continued right up to June 30th of this year. So you've got these oddities of these cases being issued in 2025, but it's actually the 2024 Supreme Court term, because that's when the term began. The court also works in the period of time when it is not formally in session, although its workload is a little less then.
SPEAKER 05 :
So within the term, do they have two sessions? Do they take a break like over Christmas, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they take breaks. I'm not privy to the entire calendar, but they do take Christmas breaks, and they're kind of in and out. The really heavy work comes in May and June of each year near the end of the term because what happens is the justices – meet and then they discuss a case they decide who's in the majority who's in the descent the chief justice appoints someone to write a majority opinion or he could take it himself if he wants to but if he doesn't he appoints somebody to write a majority uh decision uh then uh the dissenters decide who among themselves are going to write and the really controversial decisions tend to come out in june Sometimes I think the theory is they want to be able to get out of Dodge, out of Washington, D.C., right after they issue these decisions. But whatever the reason, they usually keep us waiting with bated breath all through the term until June, until they finally issue the most controversial decisions.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. I appreciate you setting that up for us. We're going to continue the discussion. And these are questions for Rob Nadelson, 303-477-5600. Don't be shy. We're going to be doing this every month. And I think it's something that we're going to learn a lot about. And so we're going to make all that happen. And it happens because of our sponsors. And the Bill of Rights in the Constitution is so important. The Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear firearms. to protect ourselves against bad actors is there, and it basically protects all of the other rights. And that's why the work of the Second Syndicate is so important.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back. Be sure and check out the website for the Center for American Values, which is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And check out Drew Dix's new podcast. It's a great podcast series. It's important to have trusted sources. There's so much coming at us, so much confusion. And we need to be truthful. very judicious and choosing trusted sources on these issues. And what Drew is doing on this podcast series is so important. He's a Medal of Honor recipient. He understands the military, national security, and you can find that at AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. And, oh, the name of the podcast, Thank You, Joe, is, let's see, it's something from the silo. Hold on. I have all this right here. It is Words from the Silo. Thank you so much. And that's, again, at AmericanValueCenter.org. We have started something new. This is so creative. It was Rob Nadelson said, hey, I'm doing something like this in Montana on a radio station. How about let's do this out of this Colorado station? And we are. So we want you to call in 303-477-5600. And the text line, if you are shy, is 720-605-0647. But we'll be talking about the Constitution and the courts. Rob is the author of the original Constitution, what it actually said and meant, and it is in its fourth edition. So Rob Nadelson. These are novice questions. You mentioned the Supreme Court. That is the court that is put in place via the Constitution. The other courts are statutory. So that means Congress has made the laws for these other courts, right? Is that what that means? That's right. Okay. That's right. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
But we have— You know, I just want to mention an example of this. You may recall several months ago, there was a in fact, you and I discussed this on the on the air. There was a decision issued by a court called the Court of International Trade in New York City, and it struck down some of President Trump's tariffs. That decision was later put on hold. But a lot of people were scratching their heads and saying, Court of International Trade, what the heck is that? Yeah. And the answer is it's the successor to the old customs court, which goes back into the 19th century. It's a specialized court created by Congress. There are a number of these. Bankruptcy courts are an example, too. So the federal court system is fairly elaborate, but it's all statutory. It's not mandated by Congress. Excuse me, it's not mandated by the Constitution except for the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So in the way that the federal courts are made up, you have district court and how many district courts are there?
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, I don't know the answer to that question, but there are several hundred because there are, there may be something like 300 because there is one, at least one in every state and some states have four. So probably not as much as 300, but you're dealing with quite a few. I think the 300 figure I got might have been the number of district judges. So Colorado, though, has just one district, and then it feeds into what's called the Tenth Circuit. Circuit means a region, and that Tenth Circuit comprises Colorado and a number of other western states. And so once a case is decided at the district court, it then gets fed into the United States Court of Appeals for whatever circuit the district is in.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so a circuit court and the Court of Appeals, is that the same thing?
SPEAKER 10 :
They are now, yes. You know, that term circuit is interesting. It comes from the old practice of judges, which actually Supreme Court justices still do, of riding around from place to place, originally on horseback, they would go from courthouse to courthouse. And that was called riding circuit, meaning riding around. So originally, these circuit courts were trial judges that went from place to place on horseback. Eventually, the term circuit came to be applied to the courts of appeals that are much more stationary, usually. I mean, there are hearings for example, outside Denver and the Tenth Circuit, but they don't ride circuit the way they used to. It's the Supreme Court that seems to ride circuit. Different justices are assigned different parts of the country to hear emergency appeals, generally when the court is not in session.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Okay. Now, I have other questions, but we've got listeners that are on the line. First listener is Ben Williams, and he is also a great sponsor of the show. He has Ben's Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. Ben Williams, welcome. What's your question for Rob Nadelson? Hi, Ben.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, thank you. Hello, Rob. Thank you so much for being on, man. What an incredible education. Well, thank you. So here's my question on this kind of a two-part question. If it can be proven definitively that a person or group of people have been fraudulently elected, what would become of bills or legislation that they have voted on and come into law? The second part would be if it can be definitively proven that ballots have been manipulated fraudulently, say in the case of our situation here in Arapahoe County with Tabor, What would become of that because it's already become law?
SPEAKER 10 :
Good question, Ben. It is a good question, and it's good to see that we're starting off with a very tough one. I will give you a definitive lawyer-like answer. It depends. Oh, great. Yeah. Election challenges are very difficult to win. Do you remember the old trope about how this statement that Trump brought something like 48 challenges to the 2020 election and the courts ruled against him every time? Right. Well, the courts ruled against him in every case but one on technicalities. It's very difficult to even get an election case heard. And generally, you have to be able to prove by clear and convincing evidence That means by a pretty demanding standard that the fraud actually resulted in you losing. Not that it might have, or probably, but that it did result in you losing. A very, very tough standard to meet. Now, if a ballot issue is proven to be subject to fraud, then that then the result in a ballot issue would be reversed, or in some cases the court might order a new election. The cases of candidates is more difficult. Generally, by the times one of these cases is won, the person fraudulently elected has been in office for a while, has been engaging in acts for a while, and I'm not familiar with any case where the courts have said that the votes that that person cast or the proclamations that person signed are illegal because of the fraud. There is a doctrine in corporate law called the de facto corporation doctrine, which results in certain corporate measures being valid even if they are technically defective. And I think that probably that's what the court would do here. So the question comes up, let's say we're definitively proven that Trump won the 2020 election and therefore Joe Biden was not properly elected. Would that mean that Joe Biden's actions would all be invalidated? And the answer to that, nothing in law is 100 percent certain, but 99 percent certain the answer to that would be no. The court would say, you know, we can't under one reason or another, we can't. undo all of those actions. Let me just finish by saying there was a very famous case called Luther v. Borden that arose in the 19th century, specifically in the 1840s. There were two rival governments of Rhode Island, each one claiming that the other one was illegitimate. And the position that the U.S. Supreme Court took was basically, oops, this is too hot to handle. The issue is not justiciable.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hmm. Wow. Ben, does that answer your question?
SPEAKER 15 :
That depends.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well done. Well done. Okay. Ben Williams, thank you so much. Great question. And now we have Mark on the line with, hey, Rob, we may need to name this stump Rob Nadelson. What do you think? Or try to stump Rob Nadelson. How's that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Look, that's not that hard. That last question pretty much did it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, Mark. And again, the call in line is 303-477-5600. We have Mark on the line. Mark, what is your question for constitutional expert Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 11 :
Good morning, Kim. I have so many questions. However, one occurs to me that I've been wondering for a while. And, oh, first of all, Mr. Nielsen, I need to thank you so much, sir, for your series on the founders, which I believe I accessed through Kim Monson's website. And it should be standard curriculum for all youngsters to learn about from whence our liberty sprang and what they follow as young. dictated by the Democrats is nowhere near God's liberty. So anyway, thank you so much for your hard work, sir. Oh, that was a site.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I was saying that was a series. There were actually several like that in the Epoch Times a few years ago. But you can find all that stuff at the Independence Institute website because it ultimately winds up there as well, and it's more collected there. Anyway, go ahead, Mark.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you. Thank you for that. And so there's something that really bothers me, sir, and I I would almost rather call you Squire. In fact, you deserve some type of title. However, the practice of quote-unquote law befuddles me at many times. It seems very illogical. And one of my greatest complaints, I'm curious what your viewpoint might be on this, sir, is that it comes down to being beholden still to the crown, or shall we say the bar? And my ignorant question is this. Is there any way the people could establish our own justice system free of the bar, which has no ties to any of this cockamamie precedent-setting stuff to where the real people can cut the bull? And say, yes or no, it's right or wrong. And that's all I have to ask right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Our website is kimmonson.com. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Golden, Colorado. And the remodel will have different pathways of service where you can have a brick that will... Honor your loved one's military service or your military service. And so to buy a brick that will be on one of those pathways, get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. We are trying something new, and we are off to the races on that, and that is Ask Rob Nadelson. Our call-in line is 303-477-5600. Lines are full right now, so if you're calling and the line is busy, just call back here in just a moment. But we have Mark had an excellent question. Mark, I think your question was this is why do why do we have to have attorneys that get the permission from the bar? to be able to practice being an attorney because the bar then can threaten being a member, disbarment, and in a way controls attorneys. Am I connecting a dot for you, Mark? Is that kind of what you're asking?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, ma'am, except the crux of my question, ma'am, is this. And I've stumped many a lawyer with this question. In fact, I believe a lot of lawyers are largely ignorant to the fact that They are, by being members of the bar, they are beholden to the crown. It is not American. It's based out of England. And I believe as American patriots believing in God's liberty, we need to be thoroughly divorced from any allegiance or subservience to anything British whatsoever at this point, ma'am.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, well, thank you for that clarification. Okay, Rob Nadelson, constitutional expert, what's your answer to Mark?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I wouldn't say lawyers are beholden to the crown, but you've got a problem here. On the one hand, the law is a complicated endeavor. It is like medicine. It's a learned profession, and it's not something that can always be done by people without training. On the other hand, the bar association, the organizations of lawyers are... They're special interests like any other special interests. And all too often they act in ways that are for their own benefit or for the benefit of the government they serve and not for the benefit of the people or not for the benefit of clients. So what you have to do is you have to really strike a balance, so you have a system where there's expertise on the one hand, but there's also popular influence on the other. The founding generation did this pretty well because they required people who wanted to practice law to be licensed to take an exam. But they had a pretty wide open process for doing that. I mean, you didn't have to go to law school, for example. They also had as part of the legal system active grand juries and, of course, trial juries. consisting of ordinary citizens who were not lawyers, who made important decisions based upon common sense with some instruction from the judge. So they balance that pretty well. I kind of agree with Mark that we've tilted that balance a little bit too much toward lawyers, or more specifically, too much toward organized bar association. Let me give you one or two examples. One is we're now requiring... in this state and I think 46 others, 45 others, that before you could even take the bar, you must go to a law school, graduate from a law school, which are very often controlled by the universities, and they kind of imbibe that poison from the universities that we've seen such evidence of recently. And not only that, but the law school has to be approved by the American Bar Association, which has a whole lot of requirements, some of which are completely nonsensical or politically driven. I think that states should take the position that you can qualify for the bar exam by clerking in an office for a few years and then taking the test without having to go through a law school. And there is an additional mechanism that people can use, too. We have in Colorado and in many other states the initiative process, the citizen initiative process. You can use it to pass state constitutional amendments that say that certain positions, maybe certain lesser judgeships, you don't have to be lawyers to fill. Or you can adjust the burden of responsibility more in favor of lay people and against lawyers. So there are those options. I tend to agree, as I said. that we've tilted the balance a little bit too much toward lawyers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So thank you, Rob. And Mark, thank you for that question. And we've got things coming in on the text line. Rob, this could possibly become a two-hour show as we do this because we now have Ron on the line. I'll try to get to these text questions as well. The text line is 720-605-0647. And the call-in line is 303-477-5600. If you are trying that and it's busy, give it a few, probably about 30 seconds and try it again. And so now we have Ron. Ron, welcome. What is your question for constitutional expert Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, my question was basically a statement, but I believe that the legal system is part of the majority of the problem that's wrong with America. Because when you have here in Colorado, you have proof that they've manipulated and changed votes. in Arapahoe County. Then you have a, uh, and that's the cast vote record you're referring to.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. Yes. Then you have an AG that posts, uh, the, the codes and, uh, the passwords and they have proof that they've changed, that there's been manipulation and you're sitting there saying that you have to prove it instead of saying, you know, the, the legal system, they use the, uh, the, uh, um language american language english language they use that to manipulate and make it hard so people don't understand instead of making it very simple and i think that they that's the reason why america is in the position they have it because you look at these judges and the stuff that they've done okay so uh
SPEAKER 05 :
sorry uh you have a good day thank you great question and rob i'm going to segue that question into something that we did want to talk about and that is these injunctions by these district judges and of course there was a supreme court decision on that and we've got maybe about three minutes on that yeah and thank you ron thank you ron kim i can't speak to the details of local elections because
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm swamped trying to keep up with what I have to keep up with, and I just can't judge that. I will say it is true it's very difficult to challenge an election in court, and I think there are a number of reasons for that, but it can be very frustrating. I also agree that sometimes the courts play games. It's called sophism. with legal language and manipulated in ways that are not justifiable. I think many constitutional decisions fit that category. As for the injunctions...
SPEAKER 05 :
And let's explain that. We've had district court judges that have issued injunctions on different things that Donald Trump has done, maybe through executive order. My understanding in the big, beautiful bill, that 28 of his executive orders were codified into law.
SPEAKER 10 :
The particular case that went to the U.S. Supreme Court was called Trump v. Casa, and it dealt with three injunctions against his birthright citizenship claims. executive order. And we can get into the merits of that later. But in each case, the injunctions issued were what were called universal injunctions. That is to say, the court ordered the president not to enforce the executive order against anyone, not just against the plaintiffs who brought the case, but against anyone. And the U.S. Supreme Court said that exceeded the power of the district court. The district courts, remember, we mentioned this earlier, were set up by Congress. They were given certain powers. They were not given the powers to issue universal injunctions. They were only given the power to issue an injunction on behalf of the parties before the court, unless the case qualifies as a class action, which is a difficult thing to do. So that's what that case was about. I think it was a worthy, a good slapdown of overreaching district judges. I have no doubt that this latest silly injunction against stopping the funding of Planned Parenthood will also be struck down because the grounds for that, which were even stated by the judge, but the grounds claimed by Planned Parenthood were simply nonsensical.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, Ron, thank you. Anything else?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, thank you. You guys have a good day. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks, Ron. Rob, I think that your idea, your experiment here in Colorado is highly successful. We'll do this once a month. Now, next month it will be the second Thursday. Then we're going to get on a regular rotation of the second Tuesday of each month. We've got a little over a minute. How would you like to button this up, Rob Nadelson?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, a crass commercial message would be helpful, right? That's great, yeah. The fourth edition of the original Constitution is now out and available. Be sure you get the fourth, not an early one. And it's a little hard to find on Amazon, so go to independenceinstitute.org, the Constitution tab, and you'll see a way to order it. They charge an absurdly low price for it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's great, and we all should have that on our Freedom Library at home. I need to get mine ordered. I'll make a note to myself on that. So, Rob Nadelson, this is great. We'll do this again next month. And all of you, put that call-in number in your phone so you're ready next month. That's 303-477-5600, 303-477-5600. I love this. The mental gymnastics to go through these questions is so awesome, Rob Nadelson.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's great. I really enjoy it, and I enjoy talking to your listeners.
SPEAKER 05 :
And definitely, this is great. Our quote for the end of the show is from Abraham Lincoln. He said this, he said, We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Welcome to the Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with the Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hello there, Angie Austin with the Good News and also Dr. Cheryl Lentz, the academic entrepreneur. Hello, my friend. Hello, hello, Andy. I have a kind of cool topic for us today. You and I often go to the website Mark and Angel for cool topics. And this is four effective ways to start letting go in life. And I know as a professor, you put a lot of these things into action. And I really admire, Cheryl, how... you're much better than I am about getting up. You've got a list, you get to work. Like I think too much in the morning and then I might roll over in bed and go, I'm going to nap another half hour. And then, Hmm, I, you know, in my interviews, I don't start that early. So I can be, they call it, I'm bed rotting. That's what the teenagers call it. And I know, Yeah, that's what it is. That's what I do some mornings. And you do not bed rot.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not typically. I'm up with the sun. I probably get more done before nine in the morning. Most of you all day just because I got to get started. Not always and not every morning. But I will tell you, I have trouble in the wintertime when the sun doesn't come up and it's not as out as long as it is in the summertime.
SPEAKER 01 :
Me too. I have a winters are not my favorite. Okay. I like these because it's kind of not dwelling on the junk that doesn't matter. And the first one is practice letting everything breathe. And that sounds like, Oh, deep breathing. No, it's about stopping for a moment. And like, there's peace and just letting, you know, that just calming yourself. What does the Bible say? It's like, be still and know that I'm God. Like just like quieting your mind, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
And I think you make better decisions in that clarity, in that timeliness. It's not about breathing to relax. It's about getting to that calmness. That's where I get some of my ideas. And then I will get inspired. Oh, I got to call this person. Oh, I got to call that person. And I do it from a point of strength and clarity, not neuroticism and running like a chicken with my head cut off, you know?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes. And I think we forget things like I know I'm stressed whenever I lose my keys. And if I lose my keys, I know I'm stressed because I'm thinking about too many things at once. And I've completely forgotten where I put it. It says you don't need to control everything. You don't need to worry about everything. You don't need to change everything. Sometimes you can just accept things. And when you quiet your mind, like you said, that's when you get creative. For me, if I take the time to journal, my life is more orderly or ordered, as you would say. And I think I think you're a little bit better at putting your day in order than I am. I kind of fly by the seat of my pants a lot more drives my husband crazy because we might have a plan. And I'm like, oh, let's stop and look at the world's largest ball of twine. He's like, that's not on the schedule. And I'm like, you know, he's so orderly and he his work day. He gets so many things done. And I'm a little bit I think the kids think I'm more fun, but I drive him crazy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I struggle with that. I subscribe to the Brian Tracy, eat that frog. I try and do the worst stuff that I don't like first so that it's not hanging all over my head. And cause I'm not a fan of accounting and I have to do my books once a month and I just, the hardest part is just getting started. And that's the whole point. So I make a point of don't complain about it. Don't be, just do it first thing, get it over with. And then the rest of the day goes much easier. So you don't have the monkey on your back.
SPEAKER 01 :
And whose theory is that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Brian Tracy, eat that frog.
SPEAKER 01 :
Eat that frog. Oh, that means you eat the frog first and then the rest of the day is better. Exactly. You're just going to get that frog.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you put it in the boiling water and it just goes there and it goes there and it sits there and then it eventually dies and it doesn't notice it because it's just little itty bitty things over time. So he's just like, eat the frog, get it over with. And to be honest. It's not really even about eating the frog. It's just getting started because I know I'm only going to do this for half an hour, and most of the time, once I get started, I finish the whole darn thing because I don't like it, and I'm procrastinating, and I'm not a procrastinator. I just procrastinate on things I don't like. So if I just finally get started, usually that's the impetus, or I'll break it into –
SPEAKER 01 :
you know different things all right i'll do half an hour now half an hour later and there's so over three days i will get it done but i will get it done you know so it's not everything all at once where you're like take the medicine just mix a spoonful of sugar and go away you know oh my goodness all right um here's the next one uh and again we are discussing an article that is just kind of helps your life flow a little better it is four effective ways to start letting go in life so that You know, you can actually reach your goals and enjoy things. Number two, practice accepting your present reality. And then they say, and just floating, which is a little too, you know, ethereal for me. But imagine you're blindfolded and treading water in the center of a large swimming pool and you're struggling desperately to grab the edge of the pool. You think it's nearby, but really it's not. It's far away. Trying to grab that imaginary edge is like stressing you out. You think you're there and you're not. You're splashing aimlessly, trying to hold on to something that's not there. Now imagine you pause, take a deep breath and realize there's nothing nearby to hold on. And you just start treading water. You're not struggling. You're relaxing. You're just slowly floating, treading water. It's an inner peace that begins to develop the moment that, you know, you accept that. And I think that what it kind of brings to mind for me is when you're trying to make something happen, when like I bring up the example of, you know, Hope has ADHD. And when we were trying to jump through these hoops to get her accepted into college, when they didn't necessarily like her test scores, And I was trying to prove that even though she's not a good tester, I got all these people to write letters. I got tutors, you know, the people that work with her four years in her high school and, you know, people that just go, this kid is the most amazing kid you've ever met. She was the biggest dream to work with. Her caseworker said of all my kids that I work with with learning issues. She is my number one favorite, the one I'm least worried about. And she was the educator of the year. So I thought, well, that's going to hold a lot of weight. And when those things didn't work, I was so frustrated. I was like trying to grab the edge of the pool and struggling and, you know, splashing and like, why isn't this working? And I finally just had to like, let go and let God per se, you know what I mean? And that's, I think with this, that's how I envision this particular practice, accepting your present reality and just treading water instead of trying to just splash around and make things happen that would control it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's a serenity prayer, right? How do you know what to let go of, what to hang on to, what the courage is, and the wisdom to know the difference. Trust me, it's a work in progress. Me too.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, I like that one. Practice challenging the stories you keep telling yourself. Many of the biggest misunderstandings in life could be avoided. If we simply took the time to ask, what else could this mean? A lot of people always jump to the most negative conclusion. My mom oftentimes does that. She's gotten much better, which is, you know, you can teach an old dog new tricks, I guess. A wonderful way to do this is by using a reframing tool that we initially picked up from research professor Brenny Brown. When we tailored it with our coaching work with our students, say Mark and Angel, we call the tool the story I'm telling myself. Although asking the question itself, what else could this mean, can help reframe our thoughts and broaden our perspectives. Using this simple phrase, the story I'm telling myself, as a prefix to troubling thoughts, has undoubtedly created many aha moments for students and clients. Here's how it works. The story I'm telling myself can be applied to any difficult life situation or circumstance that in which a troubling thought is getting the best of you. For example, perhaps someone you love, husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend, et cetera, didn't call you or text you when they said they would, and now an hour has passed, and you're feeling upset because you obviously – you know, feel like you're not a priority to them. When you catch yourself feeling this way, use the phrase, the story I'm telling myself is it didn't call me because I'm not a high enough priority, but it could, then you ask yourself, is this absolutely true? How do I feel and behave when I tell myself a story? What other possibility might there be? What other, you know, reason? And I learned this through a weatherman whenever he'd come in crabby and I was like building his maps and I was like the underling weather person and he'd be crabby and i'd say are you mad at me and one day he stopped he goes no every day i tell you i'm not mad at you because i suffer from depression and it's not always about you angie and so the story i've been telling myself was completely wrong right but that's the hard part isn't it amazing when we tell a new story the events haven't changed just the story has and our perception has so that's and the way we feel changes
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. So you're not in your story. You're talking about your story. And that's huge.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's huge. Okay. The last one is practice putting the figurative blast down. Okay. Now this is a lesson that Mark and Angel learned. So I'm going to tell you the story. 20 years ago when Angel and I were, oh, and by the way, when Mark and Angel started this very successful coaching career and markandangel.com and their books, they're very successful. They have a huge following and, His story was rejected for like the student paper or whatever it may be. And she said, well, hey, let's just start our own website. So here he was rejected. It reminds me of my friend who was the gardener at Channel 2 where I worked on the morning show. And when they said, we don't need you anymore, he was like, oh, I'm done. I'm like, well, no, you're not. Just because you're not their cup of tea, like another station might need you. And now he's been 20 years at the number one station in town. doing his gardening and it's a hugely you know immensely popular segment okay 20 years ago an angel and i were undergrads in college our psychology professor taught us a lesson we've never forgotten on the last day of class before graduation oh you'll love this because you're a prof she walked up on stage to teach one final lesson which she called a vital lesson on the power of perspective and mindset you know how we view things As she raised the glass of water over her head, everyone expected her to mention the typical glass half empty or is the glass half full metaphor. Instead, with a smile on her face, our prof asked, how heavy is this glass of water I'm holding? Students shouted out answers ranging from a couple of ounces or a couple of pounds. After a few moments of fielding answers and then nodding her head, she replied, from my perspective, the absolute weight of this glass is irrelevant. It all depends on how long I hold it. If I hold it for a minute or two, it's fairly light. If I hold it for an hour straight, its weight might make my arm ache. If I hold it for a day straight, my arm will likely cramp up and feel completely numbed and paralyzed, forcing me to drop the glass on the floor. In each case, the absolute weight of the glass doesn't change, but the longer I hold it, the heavier it seems to me. As most of us students nodded our heads in agreement, she continued, your worries, your frustrations, your disappointments and stressful thoughts are very much like this glass of water. Think about them for a little while and nothing drastic happens. Think about them a little bit longer and you begin to feel noticeable, maybe mental pain. Think about them all day long and you'll feel completely numb and paralyzed, incapable of doing anything else until you drop them. Think about how this relates to your life right now. If you've been struggling to cope with the weight of what's on your mind, Maybe you need to restructure it and see this as something that, as she put it, you need to put the glass down. So if you've been struggling to cope, let go to renew faith in yourself. A big part of practicing letting go is gradually renewing your own faith in yourself. This renewed faith means finding the willingness to live with uncertainty, to feel your way through each day, to let your intuition guide you like a flashlight in the dark. It's about firmly standing on your own two legs in the present without crutches that you've been holding on to, gradually taking small steps forward. You've got this. And if you choose to believe that you have enough and are enough in each and every moment, what if today you choose to believe that you are strong enough to move forward one step at a time? And, you know, a lot of it, I think, is letting go of people pleasing, letting go of like expectations, people around us trying to please our parents, please our spouse, like living up to other people's expectations, etc., And I just like the idea of holding on to all those beliefs, the unforgiveness, the negative attitudes about ourselves. If you hold on too long, your arm just can't take it anymore, nor can your brain.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's amazing. So it's all amount of time, not task. So it's not what you're doing. It's how long you're doing it. That's brilliant.
SPEAKER 01 :
And learning to maybe reframe these things or let these things go. I think that reframing things just like me thinking that every day my boss was mad at me because I get stuck in L.A. traffic and then I feel so guilty and anxious, you know, because he's standing there with his arms crossed when I walk in because I'm building his maps for the weathercast for the show. And thinking he's angry at me every day when I just made my life so much easier when I finally addressed it. And he's like, it's not always about you, Angie. It just stuck with me like, oh, and I got that from my mom. She always thinks one time someone stopped her in traffic, like, you know, a construction guy and he put his, you know, flag up and stopped her. And she came home and she goes, that construction guy was going down Castle Pines Parkway. And he purposefully stopped me and no one else. And I'm like, Mom, he stopped you because you leave a lot of space in between cars and you drive slowly. So that was the obvious break in traffic. But that was how ridiculous she took things personally.
SPEAKER 03 :
I had a coach in me telling me, he goes, what other people think of you is not your business.
SPEAKER 01 :
I tell my kids that all the time. I look at that going.
SPEAKER 03 :
It isn't. He goes, no, because you can't control it. So it's what you think of yourself that's important because you can't do anything about what they think. The best you can is the best you can do. So I always remind me, it doesn't matter what they think. It's not my business.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, my goodness. I love having you on, DrCherylLentz.com. We use up the time. I can't wait. It's been like five minutes, but it's been almost 15. DrCherylLentz.com. Thank you, Brent.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, honey. Thank you.
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Fort Morgan is listening to the mighty 670 KLT Denver.
SPEAKER 01 :
Hello, it's Angie Austin with the good news. I'm really excited about today's show because this is an area of interest for me and hopefully for you as well. So let's get right on into it. We're going to be talking about seniors, how we can help them, and an organization that I've done some work with, Meals on Wheels, which is a fabulous organization. About 60 years ago, on July 14th, the Older Americans Act was created to empower older adults to live independently, reduce poverty, which a lot of them do deal with on their limited incomes, and isolation, and ensure that they have access to essential social and health services. Joining us is Meals on Wheels America president and CEO, Ellie Hollander, who will discuss why increases in federal investment in senior care is smart policy. Hi there, Ellie. Hi, Angie. How are you? I'm well. All right. So we're going to get into Congress. But I just wonder, how did you get into this line of work?
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, we always think about what we're going to do next. This was just fortuitous, this opportunity at Meals on Wheels America. And, you know, it's always what's happening in your life at the time. And it wasn't the best personal time for me. My sister was gravely ill and I was sort of a caregiver to my dad. And timing wasn't perfect, but they both urged me to do this. And I'm so glad that I took this on. I can't imagine a more important cause than Meals on Wheels.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes. I have a favorite radio friend and I've interviewed him on numerous occasions. His name is Kevin. He was in the military. In fact, he was a lawyer in the military. And here in Colorado, when he retired from his big mucky muck job, you know, big officer, jurist, you know, important guy. He his kid's laugh is that he's not retiring. So every single day of the week, he does some kind of volunteering job. And he works a lot with Special Olympics. But one of his favorite days is his Meals on Wheels days. We've talked about it extensively on the show. So I want to get into it a little bit more later because I think people think the commitment is like forever or every day or really difficult. I mean, there's so many ways Meals on Wheels works around you. So we'll get to that in a minute. But let's start with why did Congress originally pass the Older Americans Act?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I mean, I think there was incredible foresight, and I give Congress a lot of credit 60 years ago to recognize that we needed a nationwide, federally funded program to preserve the dignity, independence, and well-being of older adults. I don't know if anyone imagined then how fast the segment was going to grow and that, you know, fast forward to today that older adults, 60 and over, outpace the number of kids under 18. But regardless, it's been an incredibly impactful, understated program. A lot of people don't know about the Older Americans Act, but they do know about the programs that it enables, that it funds, like Meals on Wheels, maybe one of the most recognizable ones. But think about senior centers. Think about transportation to doctor's appointments for folks that have mobility challenges. Think about Elder and respite care for caregivers. You know, all of these programs are funded through the Older Americans Act. It's like the best kept secret, but yet it continues to deliver. And we find that we are improving the health and well-being of older adults in America. And we are saving health care costs by doing that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, we were talking earlier, I mentioned in the intro about reducing isolation. I talk a lot about the Harvard Happiness Study that's decades old. I mean, maybe close to 80 years or something. And they found interviewing families and, you know, generation after generation that the largest indicator or the best indicator of happiness is connections, friendships. family and connections to others. So that little piece of, by the way, of Meals on Wheels, it might be as important, if not more than the food sometimes.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you nailed it, Angie. It's so true. We hear this from our clients and we hear this from our volunteers is that, you know, it's those moments of human connection that you can't replicate. And as families are not living as close together as they used to. Yeah. Right. It's so important to have a peace of mind, to know that someone is checking in a loved one or a neighbor, someone that you care about deeply. And we we hear all the time that as important as that nutritious meal is, it's you know, it's that it's knowing someone's going to check in on you. It's knowing that you're going to have a conversation and friendly visit. And it's as uplifting for the volunteer as it is for the senior who's receiving that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, yes. Yes. I totally agree. Like you think you're doing something for others and you're like, wait a second. This person just helped me. So let's talk a little bit more about that. We talked about the connection part, the friendship part, not being isolated. How are these programs critical to the well-being of our senior population? What else do they get out of this?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I think one of the most important things that we forget about is that most of us do want to have the choice to live out our lives in a setting of our own choosing. Yes, we can live at home and we can we can get the support we need to be as independent, healthy and safe as possible. That's what most of us are going to choose. And if we don't have that opportunity, we're going to be we're going to, you know, have more chronic disease than we do now. And we're going to end up either as a high flyer in an emergency room or we're going to end up being admitted, readmitted to a hospital or prematurely placed in a nursing home. which, of course, costs our country a lot more, costs taxpayers more. The little factoid I'd like to use, because people always remember it, I think it's just easy to think about, We can provide Meals on Wheels, which is that nutritious meal, the social connection we talked about, safety and wellness check for an entire year for the same cost, roughly as one day in the hospital or 10 days in a nursing home. Are you kidding me? No, that's what I mean. I mean, it's like, whoa, whoa, what a return on investment. Why aren't we doing more to make that opportunity possible for everybody involved?
SPEAKER 01 :
is the is really the question here at hand wow all right if you're just joining us uh ceo of meals on wheels ellie hollander is with us and we're talking today about oaa and so we're talking about the older americans act and what um in terms of challenges that oaa the older americans act faces um what are the challenges that oaa programs are currently facing
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, funding has never kept pace with need, with the growth of the senior population, or with inflation. So you have all those three factors. And what's happening is there's a huge growing chasm between those who actually need a helping hand, like a Meals on Wheels service. From those that we can provide. So waiting lists are mounting across the country. One out of three Meals on Wheels programs reports having one on average of four months, some as long as two years. They've had to cut back on services. This is really having an impact. And we know today we estimate about 2.5 million low income food insecure seniors need Meals on Wheels and aren't getting it. And so, you know, what the challenge is, is that we need to continue to invest in those programs that we know work, that are cost effective. And that's what we're really trying to do by celebrating the 60 years of the Older Americans Act and saying that, you know, we want this program to get the investment to enable it to continue to do what it's doing successfully for another 60 years and not leave seniors behind.
SPEAKER 01 :
Now, I don't know how it works in other cities, but here in Denver, I was introduced to Meals on Wheels about 20 some odd years ago. A friend of mine was working for, he was a mucky muck at Volunteers of America. And so they handle the program here in Colorado. Is that a common thing for VOA to do that or do different organizations handle the Meals on Wheels program around the country?
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, it's it's they're they're independent and, you know, they're run very differently based on the communities that they serve. I see. They're really yeah, there really isn't like a one size fits all because it really is. It's focused on the needs of that particular community. But what is common among all Meals on Wheels programs is the commitment to mission. It's enabling seniors to live independently with dignity and safely and healthy in their own homes if they so choose. That is the mission that they all share, regardless of size, regardless of location, regardless of what kind of partnerships or who's running it or so forth. That is the common element.
SPEAKER 01 :
And the cool thing is, so my friend, I was talking about Kevin McCrary, my radio friend, I just so admire all the good works he does. But he was explaining to me with Meals on Wheels that you can pick up a day that you can kind of specify where you work, where you live and where you'd like to work. You may be able to pick up holidays that you don't necessarily have to make a commitment. For him, it's one day a week and he has a shift. And I said, well, how many hours does it take you? Because I can get it done in two or three hours. It just depends on how long I'm going to chat with people. And of course, there have been instances where. He's helped rescue someone because there's no one there to help the elderly person call 911 or whatever it may be. And he's been able to ascertain like there's an issue with the apartment. But he's developed some relationships with them. But he just assured me because I've got three teenagers, five pets. My mom lives with me. I'm married. He said, look, if you just want to pick up like the empty shifts or when they have needs, you can do that or just take a day a week or more if you want. So I love the flexibility of that. it doesn't take over your life per se, and that there are ways to fit into your current lifestyle. I interviewed a lady, oh gosh, 13 years ago when I started The Good News, and her children grew up going with her. I think she homeschooled and she had lots of kids. So they'd always go to these meals on wheels deliveries. These seniors were going to graduations, school plays they became friends with all of these kids and she said it was such a beautiful you know relationship and she brought a couple of the you know grown kids with her and they explained to me how fulfilling it was for them to develop all these friendships with older people who became important in their lives that each week would want to know how did you do on your spelling test last week you know are you getting along with bobby better you know i know you know billy beat you up on that on that playground how did that all work out you know just It's such a rich relationship.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 02 :
There are two critical things that you mentioned there. One was volunteers. Look, there are all kinds of ways you can volunteer, and they can be episodic or it can be on a regular route. It just depends on your time availability and what the program needs. So don't ever be turned off by you think that you have to make a two-hour-a-day investment or two-hour-a-week investment. That's not the case. But the other thing that you're pointing out is the relationship building. This is basically Meals on Wheels is considered an extension of families in many, many cases. And, you know, the first call that sometimes a senior will make if they if they have a need, we're the ones to call it. For help. And that's that's precisely what this is about. And to the extent that we can continue to build those relationships, we're able to tell right away is something not right. If we go up to a door and we know that generally the person knows when we're coming, Sally knows I'm going to be there at 10 o'clock in the morning and it's 10 o'clock and Sally's not there greeting me. I know something's up. And so getting to know people and people helping people, it really is an amazing program. And as we said earlier, it's as fulfilling for the volunteer as it is for the senior.
SPEAKER 01 :
One of my good friends, he went blind when he was a teenager. He was an incredible athlete, and he was going to go on to be in the NFL. When he went blind, he's like, well, what can I do? well, I can become an Olympic weightlifter. I don't need to see to do that. And now he's written 60 books and they're working on his ninth movie. And he started the narrative television network, which kind of reads the movie per se, like describes it to a blind person. So I said to him, you know, I think you've turned out to be more, more, you know, successful than you would have been. Have you not gone blind? He goes, well, here's what I figured out when you're feeling sorry for yourself and no one was more depressed and feeling sorry for themselves. And the kid that was going blind in the, you know, 10 by 10 room in the back of the house. He said, but I found that if you go and do something for someone else, there's nothing better than that to make you feel better. And so he's very involved in, you know, doing things for others, which obviously you are as well. Which, by the way, you mentioned your dad and your sister. Was there anything else in your upbringing or what what initially gave you a passion for for helping others, for doing things that contributed to society rather than take away?
SPEAKER 02 :
yeah i mean that was the values that i learned from my parents and my grandparents and you know the older generation was already always part of my life because we were living close together my grandparents came over every weekend to spend time um you know i think and my dad spent a lot of time working in jobs and volunteering for you know community psychiatric clinics and helping others It just was sort of in my DNA. So it was it was a natural it wasn't really a leap, but it was sort of a natural growth opportunity for me to do what I think I've always loved doing, working with people and making a difference. We all love it. Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
You said we all want to make a difference. Is that what you're going to say?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, we do. One way or another. Right.
SPEAKER 01 :
Ellie, where do we go to get more info?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I'd love people to visit MealsOnWheelsAmerica.org. It's a very rich website. There's a lot of information and also opportunities on ways that you could get more engaged if you're interested, ways that you can help us raise awareness, raise funds, volunteer, be connected with your local program. So I would encourage people to visit and peruse it because it's a very rich site.
SPEAKER 01 :
Excellent. Thank you so much. Great interview. I appreciate it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you, Angie. Love talking to you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Me too. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
Join host Rick Hughes for an enlightening discussion on the powerful role of a Jeshurun believer. This episode of The Flatline dives deep into the stories of biblical figures like Philip the Evangelist and the Apostle Paul, showcasing their profound impact as divine influencers in history. Discover the extraordinary power of the gospel and how it can change lives and destinies forever. Rick examines the call for Christians today to embrace their role as change-makers in their communities, drawing on the principles outlined in scripture.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick with me. Short time of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education with absolutely no manipulation. That means no solicitations. Nobody's asking you for money. Nobody's trying to recruit you to join anything. We simply want to give you some biblical information that will help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If you're interested, you can orient and adjust to the plan. That's up to you. But my job is to get it accurate, to give you some good information, and to point you in the right direction. The Flatline is always designed to remind you of great biblical truths, 10 unique problem-solving devices, that will introduce you to a new way of studying, a new way of learning the Word of God. That's what this show is about. The best news I can tell you is that Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God, has redeemed you and me out of the slave market of sin. So our debt to God has been paid and we are now free from the penalty of sin and the power of sin, the penalty of death and the power of sin. So when I received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior, or when you did as well, we in effect accepted the offering that Christ made on our behalf. Free, free, free gift from the compliments of God. Ephesians 2, 8 and 9, for by grace you are saved through faith. And that not of yourselves is a gift of God and not of works, lest any man should brag about it. But we're still here. We've accepted Christ. We didn't evaporate and go to heaven immediately. We're still here. The objective is to influence the world for the Lord Jesus Christ, to be influencers. And we've already had three Sundays where we've studied what it means to be an influencer. Today we want to continue on and review just a little bit about how you can be an influencer in your life, in your time, in your nation. Because if there's anything that we need, we need believers that can have a strong Christian influence. in their family, and in their nation. We talked a little bit about Philip when we left off last week, Philip the Evangelist, not Philip the Apostle. They're two different people. Philip the Apostle was called in John 1.45, but Philip the Evangelist is sent out to preach. He's one of the seven in Acts 6.5, and this is Philip the Evangelist. And we want to see how he had an influence and how his influence was effective. And you can apply this to your life as well in Acts 8, 4 through 8. Therefore, they were scattered abroad and went everywhere preaching the word. That's those seven and the powers in the message, not in the man or in the style that he did it. Philip went down to the city of Samaria and preached Christ unto them, that's his death, his burial, and his resurrection. And the people with one accord gave heed to those things which Philip spoke, which they heard Philip say. And then he identified himself by doing miracles with them as well. And there was great joy in the city, and in Acts 8, 14, the apostles heard about what was going on in Jerusalem, so they sent over Peter and John. And so Philip was, once he had gotten the revival started, he was relieved of his duty, and He said, okay, we got it from now. We'll come in here, and we'll teach the Word of God. They came down, and Peter and John came down, prayed with the people that Philip had led to Christ, and they received the Holy Spirit. And then Philip had a new assignment. He went sent to the desert. Sometimes you may feel like you're living in the desert, that you're all alone where you are, that you really have no close friends, that You have no one that you hang out with, no one that you buddy up with. That's not a bad thing. Being alone is a good thing sometimes. So here, God the Father sends Philip to the desert. Angel of the Lord in Acts 8.26 spoke to Philip. and said, It's time for you to check out, arise, and go forth down to the desert, and out of the Gaza Strip. And he got up, 27, Acts 8, and he went down there, and there was an Ethiopian eunuch, a court official of Candace, the queen of the Ethiopians, who was in charge of all of her treasure. And he had come to Jerusalem to worship. He was apparently a God-fearing Gentile man, maybe even a full-fledged proselyte. I don't really know. But the Holy Spirit told Philip to go up and join him in his chariot. So he ran up beside him, and maybe the chariot wasn't going very fast. And he could hear this man reading out of the book of Isaiah, Isaiah 53, 7 through 9. And he said, Do you understand what you're reading? This is something I want to remind you of. In the book of Jeremiah, God said, I'm looking for people that not only know me, but people that understand me. And this has been one of the things that I've harped about on my radio show here. There are many people that I meet who in fact know God the Father through Jesus Christ. They were saved, they have a real salvation, but they don't really understand the God they know because they got into ritual and there was no reality to it. They never really had any spiritual growth. And so this man's reading, trying to figure out what's going on. It says positive volition in the middle of the desert. I don't care where positive volition is. If somebody's positive, God the Father will get the gospel to him. So the eunuch said, who's the prophet talking about? And Philip opened his mouth in verse 35 and began from the scripture, preached Jesus Christ to him. Here's the principle again. Wherever there's any positive volition at the sign of God consciousness, then the gospel is provided. And for me, I became God conscious about 11 years old, but I didn't hear the gospel until I was 22. And at that time is when I made a decision to believe in Christ. So you'll go through two phases in your life. You must be positive in God consciousness, because if you reject God in God consciousness and you say, well, I don't believe God is God, I think that rock over there is my God, or the tree is my God, or the sun is my God, then you may never hear the gospel. But if you reject those things and say, I want to know the true God, then God the Father will make sure you hear the gospel. so god consciousness is defined as the status of any normal human being who becomes aware of the existence of god through the function of his own thoughts his own mentality and you know god made his existence plain to every human being in this universe so when a member of the human race reaches god consciousness you or me whatever age it could be this is often called the point of accountability So let's go back and look at this now. How could you, if you were in the middle of the desert, if you're alone in a small city out west or alone in a big city in the Midwest or alone in a big city in the east, how can you influence someone in the middle of your desert where you live? Well, remember, the gospel is alive and powerful, and when it's given, it can change men's hearts and lives and even the course of history. But it must be heard, and it's got to be believed, and then it produces the new man in Christ. And if there's anything that aka the devil does, it is to pervert or prevent the gospel from being given. because you have the most powerful thing in the world at your fingertips. It's the power of God and it's in the gospel. In Romans 1.16, Paul said, I'm not ashamed of the gospel of God because it is the power of God unto salvation. Those words, the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ can change a man's life and a man's destiny forever. So whenever you explain to him the sacrificial death of Christ, how he redeemed us out of the slave market of sin, how he reconciled us to God, how he paid the penalty for our sin, if that man believes it and if that man receives Christ as his Savior, he has eternal life. That's powerful. He couldn't buy it on his own. He couldn't earn it on his own. He couldn't purchase it on his own. It's a free gift just for believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. Titus 3, 5, not by works of righteousness, which we've done, but according to his mercy, he saved us by the washing of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ, our Lord. That being justified by means of his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. It's free. There it is. That's the power of the gospel. A life can be changed forever from the power of the words that you give them as a divine influencer. I mean, you have more power than the atomic bomb, I promise you. So, now let's look at it this way. We can develop military weapons that'll kill the enemy, but we cannot save people. Only God can do that, and we have the weapon that does it. It's called the gospel. And when we believe it, we become one with the Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Thessalonians 2.14, it was for this that he called you by our gospel to the obtaining of the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ. So Philip's job as an influencer, give the gospel. Your job as an influencer, give the gospel. God removed Philip from Samaria. His job was done there. On to the next assignment. And I ask you, have you ever requested an assignment from God? Have you ever done that, that he would give you an opportunity to be his representative somewhere like this? What was God's assignment for you last week? Did you pass it up? Were you an influencer in your own periphery last week? Isaiah 6, 8, here am I, send me, Lord, Isaiah said, and that's what God's looking for, those of you that are willing to be influencers. So after Philip's assignment in Gaza, you don't hear much more about him until Acts 21. There, Paul encounters Philip again in a town called Caesarea, where Philip had now married and had four daughters, all those daughters were prophetesses. Luke records it this way, Acts 21, 8. And the next day, we that were of Paul's company departed and came to Caesarea, and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist. which was one of the seven, and we stayed with him. The same man had four daughters, all virgins, which did prophesy. So Philip had a tremendous ministry of influencing. Now let's talk about another divine influencer in the Bible, Paul, the Apostle Paul. Paul influenced two people that had a tremendous ministry in their life named Aquila and Priscilla. In Acts 18.1, in Corinth, Paul met a Jew whose name was Aquila. and along with his wife priscilla and they were already believers and they had fled rome under persecution from claudius the emperor who had commanded that all jews leave rome and they were tent makers like paul and they were all camped together paul worked during this week and preached in the synagogue on the sabbath so that's what he did he he was bivocational as people like to say so it's here that paul let his emotions get the best of him one day he's going in the synagogue preaching and they kept rejecting it and so in acts 18 6 when they resisted the gospel and blasphemed he shook out his garments and said to them your blood be on your own head i'm clean from now on i will go to the gentiles In Acts 18, 7, the next verse, Paul set up Bible class next door to the synagogue in the home of justice. Now, there you go. He got kicked out of one place, and he started teaching in another place right next door. And so he sets up his Bible class in the home of justice, and it was there that Crispus, the leader of the synagogue, himself got saved. And they had that effect of many in Corinth believing in Christ. The Lord assured Paul that he would be safe there, and he stayed there 18 months teaching God's word. But eventually he had to leave from Corinth and go to Ephesus along with Aquila and Priscilla, and from there on down to Caesarea and eventually to Antioch. It looks to me like reading the Bible that Paul left Aquila and Priscilla and Ephesus because that's where they ran into Apollos, and that's who they influenced. Apollos was a convert of John the Baptist who was learned in Old Testament prophecy, but he was unacquainted with the finished work of Christ on the cross. So his message of baptism was based on John's message of repentance and prepare for the coming of the Messiah. Now listen, God designed divine appointment for Paul and Aquila and Priscilla for a specific reason. He enlightened them on the mystery doctrines of the church and they were faithful friends and they were followers for quite some time. But here I want you to understand that God will bring in and out of your life specific people for specific times for a specific reason. Sometimes it's because they need mechanics of spirituality. They may be believers, but they don't understand the mechanics of spirituality. They don't understand the filling of the Holy Spirit. They don't understand the growing grace dynamics of doctrine in the soul converted from gnosis to epinosis. They have no concept of the protocol plan of God or learning those 10 problem-solving devices. And God brings them into your life for you to influence them. Not to browbeat them, but to influence them. They need mechanics and the concepts of right and wrong within the church. Remember what I've told you. A right thing done in a wrong way is still wrong. A right thing done in a right way is right. For example, taking communion is a right thing, but there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it, and Paul warns about it in the book of 1 Corinthians. If you take communion out of fellowship with unconfessed sin in your life, you're going to get disciplined, Paul says. Now, I want to move on to another agent of change. This is a word you've never heard before, and I want to tell you about it and teach you about it. is called a Jeshurun believer, a Jeshurun believer, J-E-S-H-U-R-U-N, Jeshurun, J-E-S-H-U-R-U-N. Moses himself was the founder of this phenomenal fraternity. I would say the most dynamic fraternity in all of human history and that fraternity is still operating today. And it has the most dynamic and visible impact in history. Jeshurun is the name of that fraternity. It's made up of mature believers that think Bible doctrine is more important than anything else in their life. That's the first question I have to ask you. Is the word of God more important to you than your family? Is the word of God more important to you than your politics? If it is the number one most important thing in your life and if you're serious about growing in grace and the knowledge of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, then you can join this fraternity as a mature believer. The name of the organization is the Hebrew noun. It's used four times in the Old Testament, deshudron. Moses coined the word and took it from the verb yashar, which meant to go straight to an objective or to be upright or to be blameless, to be righteous, in a good sense, to have integrity. So that noun emphasizes believers who have a spiritual life compatible with the righteousness of God. Remember, we get the righteousness of God at salvation, plus our given to us at salvation. And that's positional truth. But experientially, we have to gain the righteousness of God as we grow and mature and become mature believers. So we enter that fraternity becoming a mature believer, an upright one. The noun Jeshurun means righteous ones and the upright ones. It's found in Deuteronomy 32, 15. It's found in Deuteronomy 33, 5, 33, 26, and Isaiah 44, 2. So Jeshurun can function in a client nation, like America, even if the pivot is destroyed. The pivot is that core group of mature believers like Gideon had, those 300 faithful ones that delivered Israel from the Midianites. And I've always talked to you about being in the pivot, but this is one step above the pivot. This is the Jeshurun believer. the man or the woman who can function alone. And this decoration is the highest decoration of promotion in all of human history. And I have no doubt, if you're not, some of you listening to me right now, you may already be a Jeshurun believer, or if not, you may be on your way. The prosperity that often comes to a client nation like America, through the grace of God, can easily distract to the point where there's a rejection of the spiritual life. That's part of what's happened in this nation. And therefore, the forsaking of God by believers and the scorning of the Lord Jesus Christ. That's why so many believers in America have no idea what the spiritual life is all about and could even care less. They got their eyes on the gift and forgot who the giver is. But this Jeshurun believer I'm talking about It's unbelievable. Jeshurun is less than a pivot of mature believers. It may be just a few, one or two or three mature believers in history, and it is their impact that delivers the nation. Because of the apostasy and the degeneracy in this nation, we probably should have already gone out under the fifth cycle of discipline, but we're still here. We may be on our way out, who knows, but there have been some Jeshurun-type believers One of them was my pastor who's now gone to be with the Lord. For 53 years, he taught God's word faithfully from his pulpit. And that's where I learned so much. Yes, God's looking for mature believers. And it means that by which Jesus Christ controls history, you, he's counting on you to keep this client nation going, even if the pivot doesn't exist. You can be a member of that select fraternity of mature believers, and the Lord Jesus Christ will deliver this nation because of you. In Ephesians 3.19, it talks about the Jeshurun believer. Having the fullness of God, the fullness of God being brought to completion is the Jeshurun nomenclature for the church age. Listen to Ephesians 3.19, and to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge that you might be filled with the fullness of God. Did you hear that? To know the love of Christ which passes knowledge that you might be filled with the fullness of God. the love of Christ, that's one of our problem-solving devices, personal love for God, and then which passes knowledge, that's gnosis to epinosis. Gnosis knowledge is knowledge you heard and understand. Gnosis knowledge is knowledge you heard, understood, and applied. And when you learn it and apply it and have virtue love, personal love for God, then you become filled with the fullness of God. Fullness of God is the word pleroma, the pleroma theos. And this verse is indicating to you and me that there's much, much more to the spiritual life than just simply the filling of the Holy Spirit. There's much more and it requires the filling of the Holy Spirit. Yes, it does. That's rebound, problem-solving device number one, and the filling of the Holy Spirit, problem-solving device number two. But there's something else beyond knowledge. Ephesians 4, 13, the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the statue of Jesus Christ. That's what God wants you to do, grow to the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man. And the word knowledge here is the word epinosis. It's beyond gnosis. And this is what allows us to assume the mind of Christ and to take on the mind of Christ and to have the function of the spiritual life as Christ thinks, Philippians 2, 5. A Jeshurun believer has his thinking transformed and changed. He's changed the way he thinks. Now he's beginning to think in a different way. And he's not thinking in terms of arrogance beyond what he should think, but he's thinking in terms of humility. This is what you have to do. Ephesians 3.19 talks about the love of Christ again and that you know the love of Christ. And that's huperbalo, the Greek word huperbalo, balo to throw and huper over, extend. And basically, if I corrected the translation in some simple way, it would say, for you to know the love of Christ which transcends the bounds of knowledge, goes beyond knowledge. In order that, and with the result that, you will be filled with the plenitude of God, the full knowledge of God. This includes the strengthening of the Holy Spirit in the inner man. That has to take place first, Ephesians 3.16. That he would grant you according to the riches of his glory to be strengthened with power through the Spirit in the inner man, Ephesians 3.16. So the Holy Spirit is the reserved power for the believer. But unfortunately, most Christians don't even understand the filling of the Holy Spirit, much less the available power that he offers so that we can overcome the flesh. Yes, Ephesians 5, 16 says, walk in the flesh and you will not fulfill. If you walk in the spirit, excuse me, if you walk in the spirit, you will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. There's how you overcome the flesh. So Ephesians 3, 17 goes on to say, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, and that you being rooted and grounded in love, that's occupation with Christ, that Christ may dwell in your heart by faith, that's salvation plus the filling of the Holy Spirit, rooted and grounded in love, that's the road to spiritual maturity, requires you understanding virtue love, problem-solving device number six and number seven, understand that, come to understand personal love for God, impersonal love for others, so that you can fully grasp the extent of God's plan. To fully grasp the love of Christ, which is beyond mere knowledge, with the result that you become filled with the fullness of God. So the gate to pleroma status, or Jeshurun status, is epinosis. Learning God's word, applying God's word, consistently taking in God's word. Fullness is beyond scientific understanding, since it's based on faith. not empirical data. The fullness of God must be based on faith, not empirical data. Faith in the supersensible realities is the highest exercise of reason, says Augustus H. Strong, Systematic Theology. Faith in the supersensitive realities is the highest exercise of reason. He said faith is the cognitive act of reason which may be defined as certitude with respect to matters in which verification is unattainable. So we don't believe in Christ and live the Christian life based on rationalism or empiricism. We live it based on pisticism, which is faith. The word pistis is faith. So we understand this as wisdom in the heart. That faith is wisdom in the heart. And when you have wisdom in the heart, which comes from converting gnosis to epinosis, then you have insight and discernment in all matters, both spiritually and physically. That's the mindset of the Jeshurun believer. In Jeshurun status, the fear of living and dying is removed by the execution of the spiritual life. So there's really no safer or happier place to be than in Jeshurun status as a mature believer, regardless of the historical circumstances that we live in. So if you want to be a Jeshurun believer, if you want to be that sort of person, it requires you to stay filled with the Holy Spirit. It requires you to consistently advance in the plan of God, to operate under the protocol plan of God, for you to sit under a well-qualified pastor and learn God's word and apply it into your life. And then you can influence personally and historically and internationally, even in the angelic realm. That's your testimony. That's what God's expecting out of you, to be an influencer personally, historically, even internationally. And that is the sure-run believer. That's who God's looking for. So it's obvious this country is not going to survive if we continue to split down the middle with political and racial strife. Add to that the loss of divine establishment principles and losing the rule of law, we see that we've prospered under for so many years, now you can see what's coming. You can see what's coming through looking at the trends of history. Yes, we've done away with the rule of law. We've put down the divine establishments. We've quit proclaiming the gospel. You and I can't lose sight of our mission. In these changing times, we must be agents of change by means of the invisible and historical impact of the Jeshurun believer. You do that, and you're going to get the crown of life from Revelation 2.10. It'll be given to you for your consistent fidelity and faith in living the Christian life. That decoration of the crown of life is awarded to invisible heroes for maximum production of divine good through the execution of the protocol plan of God. That is a Jeshurun believer. That's why I'm appealing to you today to be the Jeshurun-type believer that delivers this nation, the influencer that we need in America. Are you willing to get serious about this? Are you willing to grow in the grace and knowledge of your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, above and beyond anything else in your life? If so, you're the person I'm looking for. I hope this is making sense, and I hope you'll come back next week. Until then, this is Rick Hughes, your host, saying thank you for listening to The Floodline.
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This week's episode of Rush to Reason tackles critical topics from financial health to personal well-being. John Rush speaks with Al Smith to equip listeners with the knowledge they need to optimize their retirement strategy through IRAs. As the world of retirement planning unfolds, so do discussions about knowing warning signs for Alzheimer's, as shared thoughtfully by Lisa Skinner. The conversation navigates through the realities of elder care and the preparations necessary to support loved ones through the challenges of dementia. This episode serves as both a guide and a cautionary tale about preparation and adaptability in retirement planning and health management.
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All right. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening. And we've got a lot in store for you today during this first hour. Actually, the whole show today, but especially this first hour of Health and Wellness Wednesday. Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial agreed to hang around for just a few minutes after his program today. So, Al, welcome, as always.
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Well, thank you for having me, John. I always like being on your show.
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Always enjoy it. I learn something every time you're with us. You talked on your program today about IRAs. So first of all, explain some of the things surrounding IRAs. And again, for all of you listening, every circumstance is unique. And if you've got a specific question, of course, reach out and call Al directly. But in general, Al, let's talk about IRAs.
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Well, they've been around since 1974. They started off with $1,500 a year you could put in, and I won't go into all detail, but now it's up to $7,000 a year unless you're over 50. Then you can put in $8,000 a year. You can either do it pre-tax or you can put it into a Roth. If you have a spouse who's not working, you can do the same for him or her. And those are the rules. And between age 73 and 75 is when you have to start taking the money out.
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Okay, so there's rules surrounding all of that, and I would say this for a lot of you listening, if that's something that either you have and you don't pay a lot of attention to it, maybe it's something that you had in the past, maybe there was even some other participation in that, but it's sitting there, you don't know much about it. Al, I think that happens to a lot of people. It sort of becomes this instrument that just sits there, and what most people don't realize is if it's not doing as well as it should be, change it.
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Well, exactly. And that's where most people's 401ks go when they leave their employer is they roll it into an IRA and then they can choose from a much larger choice of investments than their employer had in the 401k. And then that will carry them into retirement. They can start drawing on it right away if they're over 59 and a half or they can postpone to age 73 or 75. But for a lot of people between IRAs and Social Security, those become a really bulwark component of your retirement income.
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And it's important to, A, I assume this anyways, I'll make sure that, A, those are growing. And I realize the stock market and all sorts of things can have an effect upon that. But it's important to be aware of what's happening, especially depending upon what your age is. And then to your point, making that part of your overall strategy. And I think, again, I think one of the misconceptions is, well, that money's there. I can't do anything with it. Well, you can't pull it out without some penalties. That part is true, Al. But what I'm getting at is if you don't like the service you're getting or you don't like the performance that you're getting out of your particular IRA and where those funds are, you can help them with that because they can be put in other places outside of the company they're in now, correct? Correct.
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Oh, absolutely. An IRA, if you're not happy where it is now, whether it's with a bank or another advisor you don't hear from, all you have to do is do some paperwork, meet with me, and it gets moved and there's no taxable event. You're just choosing to have your IRA in a different place.
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Yeah, and that's one of those where maybe everybody knows that you can do that, although I've met some people over the years, Al, that I think either because of either bad advice from an advisor or some miscommunication or just them not really understanding that whole world, they felt like, well, I've had my IRA at this place and I can't do anything with it because if I move it, it's going to cost me money and it'll be tax implications and so on. And no, that's only if you pull that out and put it in your bank account.
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Well, that's absolutely right. Occasionally, I've met people who think rolling over their 401k is going to be a big taxable event, and that's not the case unless you tell your employer you want to cash it in and send you a big check.
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Right. Folks, there are times in people's lives where that may be something that you need to do, and all you have to remember is that there'll be implications along those lines. There's a tax event, as Al just explained, but Al, I've known people also to where sometimes those are the things that you need to do depending upon where you're at in life and debt and structure and other things and loss of jobs or income or what have you. There may be times where that is the advice, although typically that's the last resort.
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Yeah, that is the last resort. But the money's there. And if people have emergencies, I've had clients who've had emergencies and had to pull money out of their IRA. They're over 59 and a half, so they had to pay tax. But that's the reason you save money for a long period. So if there's an emergency, the money's there.
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On average, and I don't want to hold you to this because I can't and you don't have a crystal ball. You're not a predictor of any kind. But on average, what should an IRA interest-wise, in other words, return-wise in a year, if somebody's not getting X percentage, what should they be looking to do with you? In other words, if they're down in the 2% to 3% range, I'm assuming that's low right now given the circumstances we're in.
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Well, yeah, that would barely keep up with inflation. I would say on the low end, you want to earn 5%, 6%, 7%. And if you're okay with a little bit of volatility, you can certainly be over 9%, 10%.
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Okay, so that's something else to look at. And some of you are thinking, gosh, John, that all sounds great, but I don't have the foggiest idea even where to start. Al, that's where you come into play.
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Well, exactly. We start with a conversation and we don't dive into particular investments or returns. We have a conversation about what you want your retirement to look like in the future. What are you going to be doing? How are you going to be spending your money? What will you be doing so that you'll bring joy to yourself and your family in retirement so you'll experience some fulfillment. And certainly your nest egg is a part of that. But we want to integrate your nest egg with how you want to live in retirement.
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Great point. I think that's one mistake that I see people make is because I hear these stories, I meet different people and so on. And you meet people that are in their, you know, elder years, and maybe they're still working, in fact, maybe working as many hours as they did when they had their, you And the reason they're doing that is because they didn't plan for whatever. And it might not be that they didn't plan for enough money, but they didn't plan for some of the other emergencies that might come along. For example, our next guest is going to come on and talk about Alzheimer's and the care of and some of the things that happen along those lines and even some of the expense that goes along with that. And that's my point, Al, is if you're not planning for some of the what-ifs and those do come along, that can be a huge disruptor to your retirement plans.
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Boy, it really can. And planning for long-term care isn't necessarily an unforeseen event. It's a very likely event. About 40% of people are going to need care for six months or a year. And if it's a woman, the stats are they will need it longer. And that's a really tough circumstance, but it becomes easier if there's money to help take care of it.
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All right. What's the best way for folks to get a hold of you, Al?
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You can reach me at 303-744-1128. If you're driving, contact KLZ. They'll put you in touch with me. And when we sit down to have a conversation, we're going to talk a lot about what you want your future to look like.
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SPEAKER 19 :
We are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Lisa Skinner joining us now. Lisa, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm good. How are you, John?
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm good. Thank you for joining us today. I appreciate it very much, and I might as well say this on the front side. You're a guest that I always enjoy having folks on to talk about this subject. My father has Alzheimer's. We have him in memory care, so I'm very familiar with a lot of the things that we may talk about today. Not that I'm an expert by any stretch of the imagination, because I am not. We are still learning as we go. as I'm sure a lot of other folks you talk to are also. But you are, author got a new book out, Truth, Lies, and Alzheimer's, It's Secret Faces, and you also wrote that along with Douglas Collins. Am I right in that?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's correct.
SPEAKER 19 :
Awesome. Okay, so let's get into it. And I always ask this from almost every author I bring on anyways. Why the book? What made you write this in the first place?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's a really interesting story. I had a consulting business for a long time, and Basically doing the same thing is helping people like you understand the challenges that they're going to face and could expect on a day-to-day basis when they have a family member or caring for somebody living with Alzheimer's disease and related dementia. And I was called over to a client's house basically because her father had been diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. Her mother-in-law had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's disease and they just were desperate for information and they couldn't find it anywhere. So they picked my brain for about two and a half hours and she stops me after two and a half hours and she says, Lisa, I just want to let you know that you have provided us more useful and valuable information help us through this challenging journey than we've been able to find in two years since our parents got their diagnosis. And then she said to me, you have to write a book. She said so many people like us are desperate for this information. It's so difficult to find. And she said, it would be really selfish of you not to share your knowledge with the rest of the world. And that was all I needed to hear. I didn't want to be selfish.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, thank you for doing that, because, you know, again, I can attest to a lot of the unknowns when you start going down. these paths. And for all of you listening, we will not get all of this done in a 15-minute timeframe. I will tell you that much. So my suggestion is, A, buy the book, because there's going to be a lot more depth, Lisa, in the book than what you and I are able to cover here. But I think one of the things I wanted to start with you on, because this is kind of where it gets maybe a little dicey on the front side, and that is, how do you know somebody's even coming down with it? In other words, what are some of the warning signs we should look for?
SPEAKER 08 :
This is probably one of the most difficult aspects of dementia.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And as you know, the signs in the very beginning are so subtle.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yes, they are.
SPEAKER 08 :
That you either don't really notice them or you think, oh, this is just part of normal aging. I forget my keys. I forget why I walked into a room. So that's probably all that's going on. As a matter of fact, most people aren't even diagnosed until they're well into their mid-stage when the signs, symptoms, and behaviors basically become blatantly obvious. So some of the things that you might want to look for is... forgetfulness happening more severely than just... Yep, daily in some cases.
SPEAKER 19 :
At least for us, that's when I really started to notice it was two things that was a big red flag for me was what you're talking about, more frequent, not weekly, but daily. And I saw my dad a lot, not getting into the details, but would see my dad almost on a daily basis, especially weekdays. So seeing some of those things routinely happen. And then the other thing, and I don't know if this is in your book, but for me... the stories that keep getting repeated from the past that are the same thing you heard yesterday?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that was the very next thing I was going to say. That's a very common behavior of somebody who is probably about mid-stage into the disease. And that is something that happens to not every single person, but it's very, very common. So what they typically tend to do is Ask the same question over and over and over again in the same conversation or tell the same story over and over and over again, either on a daily basis or in the same conversation. That is definitely one of the signs that it's probably time to get a professional opinion.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. What are some of the misconceptions? Because that's the other thing that I think is out there where – and I want to be really sensitive in how I say this because I'm definitely not trying to be rude to anybody that's out there, any of you listening. But I do think you have to look at this completely wide open, eyes wide open. You cannot have rose-colored glasses on. You cannot just – because you love this person so much, ignore certain things that are coming up, because, Lisa, I've seen that happen personally where you just sort of, oh, you know, that's just so-and-so. Well, no, it's not because they weren't that way before. So, yes, I know age is kicking in, but no, my dad, by the way, he was one of the sharpest individuals you would ever meet. So when I started seeing some of these things, it's like, yeah, no, that's not who he is because he raised me, and no, that's not who he is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and the reason why we experience that is because their brains are changing. considerably due to the damage that's being done from whatever brain disease it is that they have going on. And some people have what we call mixed dementia. So they're actually living with more than one brain disease at the same time. It could be Alzheimer's and vascular dementia. It could be Lewy body and frontotemporal. And that's not that uncommon. But I would say, and I know that we don't have a whole lot of time, but the number one misconception that I really want people to understand, it's so critically important, is because of the damage that we see being done to our loved ones' brains or the people we care for, a lot of people... are under the impression that there's no longer a person inside the shell we see. You know, a lot of times we see kind of a deer in the headlights look on their face. There's no apathy. There's just kind of a blank stare. But that is totally untrue. They are in there and they know what's going on. And I want everybody to understand that because there's a living, breathing space Dylan. Absolutely. can't articulate or communicate with us. So a lot of times we're not aware of it, but trust me, they are.
SPEAKER 19 :
Absolutely. I'm glad you said that. I appreciate that ever so greatly because you are 100% correct. And yet at the same time, I think, and it seems like there are, and I guess this was my role in our family, somebody also has to be the one to say, okay, guys, this isn't the way things used to be. we're not heading down the same path that, you know, dad once was. We do need to get some things done, you know, cognitive tests and things along those lines. Let's go ahead and go down that path. And by the way, sometimes that can be a difficult conversation. I don't know if you talk about that in the book, but that can be a difficult conversation to have also.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't go into a huge amount of, I don't do a huge deep dive into family dynamics, but I do speak about it on a regular basis because, I've worked with thousands of families over the 30 years that I've been doing this. Plus, I've had eight of my own family members who had one of the brain diseases that causes dementia. And inevitably, we're going to have some... you know, family dynamics show up. They're not always going to be positive or pleasant.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And you need to prepare yourself for that because everybody interprets, you know, they interpret the disease however they were introduced to it and what they think they know about it. So, yeah, that's a very true statement you're making and it happens to pretty much everybody in some degree or another.
SPEAKER 19 :
Talk to us about the change of care, I guess you could say, not only since COVID, but just the advancements of and different things that are happening in that particular space. And I know here in our Front Range area of Colorado, there are more and more facilities being built because, as you know, there are more and more people now being diagnosed with you know, dementia, late-stage Alzheimer's, and so on. And for those of you listening, if you don't know this, memory care is such that, you know, they are not allowed to leave on their own because that particular disease has an effect, I guess you could say, Lisa, to where, you know, the wandering and doing things that you wouldn't normally do and the escaping. I mean, you see occasionally on the news people that have wandered out of their home and they're now out there and people are now looking for them it's almost like an amber alert for older individuals and you know you don't want that that's the safety factor that you need to make sure is all dialed in but i will tell you lisa i learned so much along those lines that i did not know on the front side i know now but i did not know it on the front side yeah everything you're saying is a spot on happens on a regular basis one of the things that i can speak to is uh
SPEAKER 08 :
People's short-term memories, and I'm going to use this word for lack of a better way for people to relate it to, as they're progressing through the disease, their short-term memories start short-circuiting, if you will. Yes. working properly and other times it's not. And when it's not, they are actually going back into a different timeline of their life.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're not in here and now anymore. They're back somewhere else. That's right. And it's different for everybody.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And this can happen so unexpectedly and so suddenly once you realize they are definitely living with dementia. that at any given time they could be putting themselves in harm's way, whether they're driving a car or walking across the street. I mean, I can just tell everybody story after story about how it happens on the turn of a dime. They don't know who they are. They don't remember their name. They don't remember their address. And You know, I'll tell you one quick example. Go ahead. My grandmother, who was my very first experience, she got in her car one day. This is when she was still living alone at home and routinely to drive to the grocery store. And that short-term memory switch just completely shut off in the middle of the road. And she parked her car on a four-lane road. Wow. And got out and was looking for the entrance of the grocery store because she thought she had parked her car in the grocery store parking lot. Wow. And this can happen so quickly. Fortunately, somebody got out and helped her.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, amen.
SPEAKER 08 :
But these kind of things happen without any notice at all. So be aware of that if, you know, they really are showing signs. Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 19 :
In closing, and I'd love to have you back, Lisa. This has been great. As you can tell, not that I'm an author that I would ever write a book because it's not my forte. I'm glad you did because somebody does to help all those individuals that maybe have already gone through this, are in the middle of this, or I'm sad to say will go through this because this is sort of like – cancer, Lisa. I think the stats are today in America, one out of four people will have somebody they know that has some form of cancer. I don't know what the numbers are when it comes to dementia and Alzheimer's, but I would venture to guess that number is probably not too far off of that.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're startling today, and they're expected to triple by the year 2025 worldwide. That's a scary, scary thought.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, so how do folks get your book?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's on Amazon. And it's also on my website, MindingDementia.com.
SPEAKER 19 :
several formats there's an English version there's a Spanish version there's an audio version nice there's a hardcover a paperback so something for everybody nice nice okay I'll put I'll go find that on Amazon I'll put the link in my show notes for all of you listening and Lisa again you are you're in great company you are welcome back here anytime anything that you learn that you would like to you know share with our audience by all means you're welcome back and I really appreciate your time and what you did with the book
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you so much for having me and supporting this very important message. You're very welcome, Lisa.
SPEAKER 19 :
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SPEAKER 19 :
All right, we are back. Thank you for listening. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Dr. Julie Gatza back with us, a regular guest of ours, which I appreciate greatly. Dr. Julie, thank you so much, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hi, glad to be here.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, leaky gut syndrome. So it says leaky gut, leaky brain, leaky emotions. How do we fix that?
SPEAKER 07 :
So I would say that if you haven't heard of that term yet, I would say over 80% of people living in America have some form of leaky gut. And what it generally means is you're supposed to have in your small intestine, normal size, very tiny holes that allow the nutrients from your food to go through, go into the bloodstream and the bloodstream will carry it to the body. This is health. This is how you repair your body. This is how you keep your health. And what's happening is we're eating different types of foods that are irritating the intestine. They're making the hole smaller than they should. So not only is the unbroken down food going into the bloodstream, so is bacteria. You can even get E. coli going into the bloodstream. And now you have your immune system saying, hey, we have to fight what's happening in the bloodstream. So now you've got autoimmune disease happening and people are chronically unhealthy and they don't realize it's coming from this leaky gut syndrome.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so we've talked about this a lot in the past, maybe not quite in these specifics. And for those of you listening, we'll get into some of the things that you can do even, you know, vitamin wise to help with some of this. But I guess first things first, how do folks know how severe this is with them on a personal basis?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, the symptoms, pretty much you name a symptom and I can trace it back to mostly a gut problem. That can be any gas, bloating, ingestion, heartburn, acid reflux, constipation, diarrhea. Those are the digestive ones. You can have skin conditions. You can have breakouts. You can have fatigue, hormonal imbalance. You can be even diabetic and sick. autoimmune diseases and lethargic. So all these things are coming from you are not able to get the nutrition properly broken down and then into the bloodstream. So your metabolism is shot and even weight problems are a leaky gut. People with weight problems are actually starving.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so what do you feel are some of the biggest misconceptions on how to fix this? Because everybody's watching TV and hearing all sorts of things that are out there and reading this and reading that. What do you feel, you know, you meet people all the time, have patients and so on. What do you feel are some of the biggest misconceptions or wives' tales along those lines?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a good question. You know, there's just so much information out there, and so much of it actually is mostly good information. There are a lot of different things that I could go into as far as weird protein-type shakes and crazy elixirs and things like that. It just comes down to eating naturally and to eating real food. You don't have to go way out of your way to go and make all sorts of crazy things to fix this. You need to knock out what's causing the problems, which is usually poor choices and fast foods and lazy eating and overeating or You know, lazy eating and basically go back to, you know, eating protein, cooked protein, cooked vegetables, lay off the coffee, the tea, the soda pops and drink only water. And within a week to two, you'll see enough change that you know that you're on the right track.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Sounds easy, which for a lot of people it is. For some, maybe not so easy because these are lifestyle changes that you now just mentioned. And I guess a personal question I have is I think this is one of the maybe myths that are out there, but maybe I'm wrong. I think a lot of people feel like, well— you know, I have to eat more, or I have to have more meals, or I have to break my meals down instead of having one big meal, I need, you know, several small meals. What's the rule of thumb when it comes to helping your gut with all of that? In other words, some people will fast at different times and so on. You know, what's the, give us the skinny on all of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, I'm okay with mixing it up. I'm okay with changing what's been going on. So, If three meals a day is really how you operate best, great. Eat three meals. If you get by with one and you're doing fine and you're not starving and making yourself miserable throughout the day, have one. You don't want to have one huge meal. It's just going to overwhelm your gut again. So if you're fine with eating one normal-sized meal and that's what you do, great.
SPEAKER 19 :
So it really does, if you want to jump in, because I do think that's one of those misconceptions that you see a lot of the dietary community come in and say, no, no, no, you know, if you're eating one meal a day, yeah, no, that's not going to work. That's not really good for your body, not good for your gut, not good for your health. You need to have like seven meals a day, just make them very small meals. And it's like, well, now you're making a blanket statement, and I don't think that's correct either.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, some people have, you know, a fast metabolism there, you know, a bit on the, you know, pre-diabetic aspect. So they do need to eat more frequently. I myself can do one meal a day and live with that forever. Me too. It's not a big deal.
SPEAKER 19 :
I'm like you on that. I eat in some cases just because you feel like you almost have to. And I've kind of learned that if you're not hungry, you're not hungry and don't eat. And sometimes even when you think you are, go have some water and you may find you're not as hungry as you thought you were. So I'm one of those where I've just learned, I guess, and maybe some of this as I get older, Dr. Julie is part of it as well, but I don't need three, four, five meals a day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Me neither. I'm actually, it's uncomfortable if I'm on vacation and that's what people are insisting upon. I'm like, oh my goodness, no thanks.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. So I, cause I think, again, that to me is one of the larger misconceptions that are out there and I get it. This is for all of you listening. This is not a one size fits all. This is where you really need some good solid guidance and things like that because no, it's not, you know, even what your spouse does may not be the same for you and definitely may not be the same for the kids in your home. So, This is very unique, and I think there's one thing, Dr. Julie, and maybe it was the food pyramid back in the 70s and 80s that really did this, but I think we've gotten into this misconception that everybody's the same, and the reality is, no, we're not. We're all unique.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's exactly true. I mean, you know, some people do really well with eating a lot of protein, and others do better eating more vegetables. So I myself don't eat enough protein, and when I do, I'm much better for it.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I'm one of those that's probably the opposite. I have to make myself do more of the veggies, which I know I need for obvious nutritional reasons, but I'm a guy that can sit there and have protein at every meal, no problem. You name it. Throw it in front of me, I'll eat it. I don't care.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's awesome. Yeah, and, you know, the other thing that's happening with this leaky gut is, I mean, of course we're eating because things taste good and we have our own, you know, whatever it is, why we like to have those foods. The real aspect is eating is for nutrition. And when you're eating food that doesn't have nutrition, what's happening is it's actually taking your nutrients to break down this non-nutritious food. So I call it negative food or unfood because it's actually taking from you rather than adding anything to the game.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gotcha. And that's, I think, another one where, again, as Americans, things have become so – convenient. And of course, we're now less healthy than we've ever been as a society, yet we have the most convenience. And, you know, we talk about food shortages or food deserts and things like that. And I'm sorry, Dr. Julie, I just shake my head at that and think, yeah, no, maybe not the right kind of food. And maybe that's what you could call a food desert. But the reality is there isn't a gas station out there that doesn't have something in it somebody's buying to eat.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. I mean, you know, if it's in a package, a box or a can, Pretty much. It's probably not that great for you. So, you know, if you're looking to eat healthy, you shop on the perimeter of the grocery store and, you know, you take the extra 15 or 20 minutes and you make something from scratch. It really does not take that much more effort. And if you make three times what you would have, that means you've got three more meals that you didn't have to cook.
SPEAKER 19 :
Question for you. This is something we've never talked about, and I was having a conversation with a client earlier today that I was helping. I was coaching, and he's in a position where he's kind of struggling to get all of the right food in, and I told him, I said, listen, don't make the same mistake when I was your age. He's much younger than I am. I said, don't make the same mistake I made and eat too much fast food and do a lot of things that you'll regret later and have to pay for, so do this right. right now and if you don't have time at night to fix all of the home-cooked meals and so on which i get it you know you've got kids that are going here and there and so on and that's a whole another conversation in and of itself but the question i have for you is there's a lot of now these you know pre-made meals factor is a big one for example are any of those worth looking at for somebody that's really pressed for time is that healthier than you know stopping by you know burger king and mcdonald's or is it all pretty much the same
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know enough about it to tell you the truth. If it's real food that's, you know, real ingredients, it's probably much better than stopping by McDonald's.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, you know, the other aspect is – so I'm sorry, I just don't know that company.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, that's fine. And I only know it because I see commercials and things like that, and I don't really either and never have been – you know, we've never been a family that's done much of that, maybe a trial here or there by somebody that we might run into even on the program or what have you. Right. You know, when I read the labels of them, they seem better than if you were just going to go to fast food. On the same token, though, I'm not an expert. I don't know that for positive.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the fact that it actually puts you in the kitchen to make something, it will stimulate the fact that maybe you can do that again without even buying the factor food. True. Good point. You know, rather than just going to the drive-thru. And, you know, the other thing is you should just have a dozen hard-boiled eggs in your refrigerator at all times. So it takes very little effort to make a hard-boiled egg. It takes nothing to carry it along with you. Crack it open and eat it. It's the perfect food. You add a little salt and pepper to it, and you have just gotten a tremendous amount of protein, and bam, it's done.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. And that's, again, for those listening, there are ways to, and this is one of the things I explained today to this particular individual, is this is where, you know, there's always a little bit of spare time, no matter how busy you are. Could be a Sunday afternoon, a Sunday evening, that meal prep for the week ahead, which really, if you just think about it a little bit on the front side, doesn't take a whole lot to make that happen. And that's what you're talking about right there. That's not a hard thing to put together and have sitting in the fridge.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. And, you know, I mean, it's just you're right. It's just a little bit of time. If you have clear containers that you can put celery and carrots and put a little bit of water and slice them up and have that at eye level, the kids are going to eat that. If you have watermelon cut up and cantaloupe cut up and berries washed and put in there, that's what the kids are going to have. That's what you'll eat. It's just when you don't have that stuff and you're hungry, you're going to reach for chips and weird food and things that are just so convenient rather than having real food.
SPEAKER 19 :
One thing that I was talking about with my spouse here recently was – and we travel around mostly to – we go on vacation typically. We'll go to Hawaii or Mexico or someplace like that. And one thing I've noticed, Dr. Julie, and this is really I think somewhat odd, and maybe it's just because you're on vacation, you're not stressed as much, but it seems to me that especially in another country, And maybe it's just me and maybe I'm being weird and oversensitive. I don't know. But it just seems like I can eat different things and even more of and feel less affected by that than I do here in the U.S. Is that because there's different foods in different places?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. I think that we are a poisoned country. And I think that, you know, other countries that haven't gone into the agreement with all the weird seeds and the growth processes and the round up on our food, we're actually getting to taste what real food used to taste like in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
SPEAKER 19 :
So it's not my imagination?
SPEAKER 07 :
Not at all. I see the same thing. And, you know, people that have sensitivities to foods and they go over to Europe and eat, you know, everything that they are not supposed to, they have none of the symptoms. They come right back here, the next day they eat the same thing, and bam, they're inflamed and they feel lousy.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so good. I'm glad it wasn't just my imagination, meaning here in this country, we've got to do all that much better job of, and I guess more diligent, if you would, on making sure that we eat the right things. And everybody listening, please, I fully get this and understand. It is not easy. We live in a convenient society where everything is made to be convenient. And unfortunately, Dr. Julie, when it's convenient, you typically will gravitate towards that convenience, and it is really difficult to stay outside of that loop, if you would.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is. You're like a salmon swimming upstream with all the convenience you write that you have and the choices to just lay back and just let it happen rather than being a cause over the whole situation.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right. One question I get every single time you're on, I always am doing a follow-up with somebody on where to actually get this particular product. It's AbsorbAid. Talk to us about the product. I take it now every single night religiously. It's just sometimes I'll even take one in the morning just depending upon what I know my day looks like. And for all of you listening, I will tell you that, in my opinion, it is one of the best daily things that I take, period.
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I love to hear that, and I have to agree 100%. It's a high-quality digestive enzyme. It's a vegan formula, and what it does is it will aid you in breaking down the foods that are going into your body. So let's say you're a great eater. Well, what it's going to do is it's going to give you more nutrients because it can break down the proteins and the vegetables and the dairy products and whatever it is that you're eating. If you're a lousy eater, it will also help you break down the bad foods and help to push the toxins out. And whatever nutrition is in that food will also help to get that into the bloodstream and, you know, at least get something from it.
SPEAKER 19 :
For those of you listening, too, and I know we've said this many times, but it is something you can take before a meal, after a meal, empty stomach. Dr. Julie, I've never taken one of these yet to where it didn't have any kind of a negative effect. In other words, only a positive effect, and I've never had any kind of a negative effect from taking one, period.
SPEAKER 07 :
Same with me. And, you know, if I've eaten, overeaten, or been out with, you know, back at home and eating all the bad foods, You know, I'll take a number of them per the meal while I'm eating the pizza that's, you know, I'm eating way too much of it. And it really does save me from, you know, the bloating and the gas and just feeling so lousy later because I can't break that down very well.
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It works.
SPEAKER 07 :
It does. You can take it at night right before you go to bed. So if you've got inflammation in your joints, if you're achy, if you've been traveling, if you feel puffy. You can take a couple of them before you go to bed, and it will help to break down all the inflammation in the body as well. So dogs can take it. Kids can take it. Elderly, you can take it. I just keep a bowl of them on my counter, and then I keep a little container in my purse when I remember to take them when I'm eating out.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right. How do we get it?
SPEAKER 07 :
So you can go to the website, which is naturesources.com. And they offer free samples on the website or 20% off your first order. And then you can also go to the 1-800 number. And if you use the code radio, they'll also send you some free samples. And that 1-800 number is 1-800-827-7656.
SPEAKER 19 :
awesome awesome i am putting again it's these are always in our notes even from past shows but i always make sure that we add that for today so those of you that are listening and it never fails i usually get somebody that sends a message an email or a text asking what is that product again what is it you know what is it describe it where do i get it all of that and and it sounds too good to be true but folks it is not and once again it's absorb AbsorbAid, so A-B-S-O-R-B-A-I-D, AbsorbAid. And again, you can buy it right online. It's easy. Put in the codes, get the discounts. And what I would tell you to do, this is me, I always have an extra bottle around so that one runs out. I order another one, so I'm never out that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm the same. I mean, there are a lot of digestive enzymes out there, but I can't say this one rocks. It works. It's the best one, and I've tried others, and you know, all right, great, it's a good brand. And I try it, and I'm like, yeah, no, Zorbaid is better.
SPEAKER 19 :
This stuff, guys, I'm telling you, it works. I've had several of you now that are actually a lot of you listening that are using it. I get the same feedback, so keep getting it. Keep buying it, those of you that don't have it yet or haven't tried it yet. Again, it's something that, how should I say this, Dr. Julie? It's probably one of the safest things you could take as far as a supplement goes, meaning that you're not going to overdose on it. There's no issues there if the dog chews a pill up because you dropped it on the floor and didn't find it. I mean, at the end of the day, Dr. Julie, this is about as low risk as it gets.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's like eating vegetables. So what it is is it's taking the enzymes from fruits and vegetables and putting it into this Perfect little digestive aid. It'd be like overeating pineapple or overeating papaya. There's really no problem with that. Same thing with this absorbate. People take a lot of multivitamins and try to supplement their diet with multivitamins. My thought is, why don't you try to break down the food you're eating so you can get the nutrition from it first and foremost? And that's what the Absorbate also helps you do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Just got a text message in from somebody saying, I take it just like you guys are talking about. So there you go. There's another testimonial. So all of you listening, yes, buy it. It works. That doesn't mean you can go out and eat like crap every day. I mean, I guess if you want to, go ahead. But you need to eat healthy and then add this into your diet on the same level. So as we're talking through this, you guys all know what we're talking about here. We're not saying this is a Band-Aid or a total fix for you eating poorly. We're saying that there are times where you might do that, and this is a huge help. But eat correctly on a daily basis. It's well worth it.
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Absolutely.
SPEAKER 19 :
Dr. Julie, I appreciate it as well. Florida Wellness Institute is where you are at, and it's always a joy having you. I learn something every time you're here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you so much. It's a pleasure.
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John Rush and Richard Battle unpack the idea that our greatest influence isn’t financial—it’s how we serve others. Then Sonny Kutcher from Young Americans Against Socialism calls out the vile reactions to the Texas flood tragedy and explains why socialists hate people (spoiler: it starts with hating God). John wraps by exposing the communist candidate trying to take over NYC—and why even Wall Street's sweating bullets.
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All right, hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, welcome. How are you today?
SPEAKER 09 :
Good afternoon, John. Thank you for having us back with you, and glad, hope you had a great vacation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Always a joy. Yep, I had a great Independence Day. It's always a joy, great time of the year. Kind of as a reminder that even though summer's not really half over, it always kind of seems like it when you get to that point, because you start going downhill on the daylight, although now we're hotter than what we normally would expect. I shouldn't say normally would be. We're hot for this time of year. That's normal for us. But for us here in Colorado, that doesn't last a long time.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's good. And so we'll take that heat down here for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Our most significant impact today and influence on the future will not be financial.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and the reason I picked this out is I think that our culture and the media, everything we do when we work to earn money, to buy the things we want, everything incents us to focus on the financial parts of our lives and to overlook the other things that are much more important than the money in the long term. And so I thought it would be good to kind of go through and remind ourselves of some of those things. because of the way we influence others today, tomorrow, and beyond our lives.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, so let's get into it. And by the way, I can't argue with anything you just said. I think it's important to remember those things because those are the things that we leave. I mean, yes, we can leave a legacy. We can leave finances and help our families that way and so on, but we need to do more than just that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, absolutely. And so the first thing we've got to do, and last week we demonstrated it some with Independence Day, is I think we have to have an attitude of gratitude versus the entitlement mentality. And remembering what the founders did and those that came after them is very important versus focusing on things that we don't have and we think we deserve without having to earn them.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think another thing, too, Richard, always comes to my mind when we start talking about these particular things is there's those people out there that I'm sure are listening that think, oh, you know, John, I don't have anything to worry about. I don't have any influence. Nobody's really paying any attention to what I'm doing. Yeah, think again. Sure they are.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'll give you a great example. When my daughter was about two or three, she was playing with some other kids and I was observing in the five or six year old kids around her. What I noticed was that she started copying what they did. And those five- and six-year-old kids didn't realize it, but their example was influencing my two-year-old daughter. And that just goes to show that we don't have to be grown up or teenagers to influence those younger than us. It starts very, very early and happens all the time.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it never stops until the day we die. And even then, sometimes depending upon how we've lived, might continue on.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, absolutely. And we hope that we have something positive to leave behind that will continue to influence those that we left. Uh, and me, once we figure out that we have that kind of influence. It changes, at least for me, the decision process that I go through in thinking of what I want to do and what image I want to display to others as far as my actions.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. When we put others, and this is in my notes, but it's true, when we put others ahead of self, it really changes things.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yes, and this really hit home to me after I had lost my son. And going through the grieving process, what I figured out was that when I thought about myself and my loss, I hurt. But when I focused on helping others that were grieving in my family, my hurt went away because I focused on helping them. And it's been true in other situations too. since then, and so we need to focus less on ourselves and more on others, and we can be more helpful in doing that and have less negative thoughts for ourselves.
SPEAKER 03 :
You have a quote in here from Arby. Who is Arby? Arby is yours truly. That's what I figured. When we serve others, all negative thoughts about our life vanish, and a joy fills us that money cannot buy seeing our impact. And that's a great quote, by the way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you. And all it means is the gratification we get when someone is helped by something we're doing is just fulfilling, much more so than writing a check to somebody. And I know you've had it happen. I hope your audience has, too. People come up to you and say, you know, 12 years ago or 25 years ago or whatever, you said something here, and that's always helped me. And when they've done that to me, I don't even remember the time they're talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, because we're speaking, and we're not the ones listening. And so, yeah, you're right, Richard. I've had those experiences, and I appreciate them greatly, and I'm glad that I've had some influence along those lines. Do I remember the exact time and what I said? I wish I could.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. And so the next piece of that is about serving him. If we're believers, then our service has a purpose beyond our lifetimes. And I kind of see this life as a warm-up, if you will. to try to prepare for eternity. And so that changes it. We're told in Colossians 3.23, I think, that when we work, we should work as if we're working for the Lord. And when we do that again, it gives us purpose. And we find so many people that have trouble in this life, they don't have a purpose, or they're struggling to find a purpose. And so when we have one that's beyond ourselves and beyond our lifetime, and we compound that with hope and encouragement, it gives us better futures as well as those we influence.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well said. Well said. Focusing on tomorrow, I think that's the other thing, too. And this is one where I do my very best, even as I'm coaching clients and so on, where, you know what, we've all got mistakes in the past, Richard. You know, there's two equals in life. We all have the same amount of time. We are bound by time, and time is a respecter of no one, by the way. We're all going to get a day older no matter how you look at it. There's no way of reversing that. It is what it is. And the other guarantee, we all have problems.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yes, and we've all failed, and we've all suffered, and the question is, how do we respond to that? And some of the things that I did that was the worst decisions I made based on following up, to me, now that experience gives me a better opportunity to speak to that than if I did not have that experience.
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Yep, there is.
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You need to convert that.
SPEAKER 03 :
There is some real, it's funny, I was talking about this on vacation to somebody that I had met, and there's something to be said about failing, and as long as you're learning from what that failure was, knowing that we're not going to repeat that and do it again, those are the way that we grow. For somebody that's never failed, well, number one, an old saying, and it's very true, if you've never failed, you never did anything.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's exactly correct, and we either can learn from our experience or others. Others is better and faster because there's many more people's experiences than we have, but sometimes, like the little kid that's told not to touch the hot stove, sometimes we have to do it ourselves.
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Talk to us about inspiring others.
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Well, I think that once we recognize that we've got an opportunity and a responsibility in this life, To me, that gratitude for what we've been given leads us to want to return the favor. And as we've talked about on here before, I like that better than paying it forward because in my mind, paying it forward is focused only on the future. Sometimes it's focused only on people that we can see and in return for something we can identify that we've been given. Whereas we owe people that we don't know before our lifetimes who have contributed to us. And to me, returning the favor looks backward and forward to appreciate all of those people known and unknown for what we've been given. This life that we have the opportunity to live, millions of people have done things to contribute to that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. You never use money to measure wealth, which, by the way, I agree with, because there's a lot of really, really rich people that are absolutely miserable. And frankly, I don't think really have accomplished anything positive in their life. Maybe I'm very critical when I say that, and I'm sorry I'm going to throw a name out there. You take a guy like a George Soros who has made a gazillion dollars. He did it on the backs of a lot of others. He's, in my opinion, a very sly, in some cases sneaky, very evil individual is probably the only way I know how to say it, Richard. And I can tell you right now that his wealth, in my opinion, isn't much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yes. And the example from that quote is from the movie Broken Trail with Robert Duvall. And he's driving a herd of horses, teaching his nephew how to do that business. And after one calamity, the nephew says, this drive is getting less and less profitable every day. And that's when Duvall says, son, you never measure wealth. using money. And it is such a great line because again, it gets us to think about the important non-monetary things in life that we have the opportunity to influence outside of the money. And so that's what's so important. And hey, I love a dollar as much as the next guy and work hard to get it also, but we have to maintain the proper perspective.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and it's in the notes, and it's very true. Each of us will have an impact 100 years and beyond. How are we going to do that, I guess, is the question, Richard.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and I've told this story, and if you have another minute.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead. We've got to go ahead. Absolutely.
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I inherited a table from my mother. She told me when I was a young boy that it was my great-great-grandmother's table, and she served milk and cookies to my great-grandmother and her friends on it. My great-grandmother lived until I was nine years old, so I had a relationship with her. So after my mother passed, I found a picture of my great-grandmother when she was a young teenager. I found her autograph book, because back in the days, kids would come to your house, and you'd have an autograph book, and they'd tell you how good you were. And the autographs in there were for 1884. And what I started thinking, 99% of that information my mother had, Went out one ear, only a little bit stayed. But I started thinking that my great-great-grandmother was an influencer long before that term came about because when she served milk and cookies, she also dispensed life lessons. And then my great-grandmother gave them to my grandmother, et cetera, down through my daughter now, six generations. And I tell people when I speak that everyone – As that same type of story, you may not have a table as a physical manifestation, but our relatives before us influenced us more than 100 years ago. Our influence today will go more than 100 years in the future.
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Richard Battle dot com is a place you can go to buy all of what Richard has to offer. And Richard, as always, I appreciate it greatly. The time you take with us each week is literally I look forward to it every single week. It is literally how should I say this? It's I couldn't pay for the information I get from you on a weekly basis. Let me just say it that way.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I appreciate that very much. It's always my pleasure to be with you, and we hope that we're touching the audience, and money would not be compensation versus the gratitude I get if someone benefits.
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Richard, as always, I appreciate you greatly. Have a great rest of your day. You too. God bless America. God bless you too, Richard. We appreciate you. Golden Eagle Financial Al was with me at 3 o'clock. He did a great interview here of late. Tune in. We'll be back right after that.
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This is TJ with KLZ Radio, and I've got Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial here in the studio with me. Al and I were just talking about how in retirement he helps his clients to stretch the time in their retirement. Al, what do you mean by that? Tell us a little bit more about how time works in retirement.
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Well, when you think about leaving the working world, you think about, well, it's still going to take money to live on once I'm retired. And that nest egg, whatever that is, that's going to permit you to do what you want to do with the time that you have sort of earned for yourself. So the nest egg is not only in dollars, but it's also in the time that you have to do the things that you believe will be fulfilling in retirement. And when I have a conversation with people, I think it's equally important to think about how they're going to be spending their time as it is to accumulate a nest egg.
SPEAKER 06 :
You've got to have some pretty good examples of things that people do in retirement. So open the door for us. What sort of things can we expect?
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Well, sure. I have one gentleman who is very much into aviation. He owns his own small plane. He actually works on that small plane. He's within a few years of retirement. He's retirement age. But right now, while he's working, he takes his small aircraft, flies to locations where he investigates air disasters. I also have some people who spend a lot of time with their grandkids, some of whom live nearby and some are a little farther away. I have some who are incredibly involved with their churches and go on missionary trips and so forth.
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How do people get in touch with you if they want to stretch that time out in their retirement?
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They can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if they're driving when they hear this, you can contact KLZ and they'll put them in touch with me.
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Of course, as always, you can find Golden Eagle Financial on klzradio.com slash advertisers and get right in touch with Al if you're driving and can't write that number down. Al, thank you so much for joining us today.
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You're welcome.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. One thing I was going to talk about yesterday with Jordan Goodman even, but I did not get a chance to do it, was the whole debacle that is unfolding in New York City surrounding Mom Donnie. I'm sure I'm saying that right. Is that correct, Charlie? Am I saying that right? Mamdani. Mamdani. He is the primary winner on the Democrat side in the mayoral race, and it really is throwing New York City, the financial side of New York City, I guess I should say, it's really throwing those folks for a loop. The real estate execs now are trying to figure out how do we throw some money behind somebody, anybody, actually, I think is what they're looking at, besides this guy, because he will be, if he gets elected, and the way that the New York City is structured, the voter structure, I guess, is what I should say. I think, Charlie, you told me, I can't remember, it's like 80% Democrat or something along those lines. I haven't looked it up, but it's huge, huge on the Democrat side. And the bottom line here is, does this guy have a chance of winning? Yes. Yes, he actually does. Even though he is a devout communist, he wants to put in city-run grocery stores and things along those lines. I mean, this guy is an all-out Marxist communist, absolutely. Doesn't even try to disguise that. and and along those lines people would think that well there's no way somebody's going to vote for somebody like that yeah don't be so sure of that yes they will unfortunately in that city yes they will he wants to tax anybody that makes over a million dollars a year heavily i mean the reality is he will drive business out of new york city not bring business in so in turn And this is an article out of The Wall Street Journal. New York City real estate executives are throwing support and money behind incumbent Mayor Eric Adams, who, by the way, isn't isn't great either. But it just shows you how good he is in comparison to this new knucklehead that just showed up on the scene. So they're trying to figure out a way to block Mamdani. And there's, by the way, going to be other high-powered, highly financially incentivized folk that get behind somebody running against this particular gentleman. And it'll be interesting, by the way, to see how that works out. Now, all that being said, I know I said this here a couple of weeks ago. This isn't really new news, but it kind of is, because I think what's happened is people have finally awoke to the fact that, oh, wait a minute, this guy won the primary. This guy's actually got a chance of probably winning the all-out mayoral race in New York City. And think about this. The size and population of New York City, you're darn near a governor. So you're not the governor of New York. I get that. But in regards to what you're in charge of, politically speaking, the citizenry of the amount of revenue that's collected and so on, Charlie, there's probably states out there that don't even come close to what New York City is doing. For example, Wyoming. guaranteed that the GDP and what happens in New York City is greater than all of the state of Wyoming. I'll double-check that through the break, but I would venture to guess I'm not wrong. In fact, I would venture to guess that New York City has probably got a larger population in GDP than a lot of other states, fully states, have around the country. So point being— People think, oh, it's just a mayor. Who cares? Well, it's a mayor of one of our largest cities in the country. And it's the financial capital of the country. Keep in mind, when the terrorists hit the World Trade Center, they were doing that as a sign sent to us because of the financial impact that they thought that would have or the message that would send financially to the United States of America, frankly to the world, but really to the United States of America. So they didn't pick New York City just because. They picked it because of what I'm saying. And so is it important that this guy not be elected? Absolutely. Is it important that anybody other than him get elected? Yes, absolutely. Even as bad as some folks that are on the list are, they're still better than this guy. The folks in New York City, believe me, they are doing – Wall Street is doing every single thing they possibly can to try to figure out what are we going to do to defeat this guy. And this is where I said a couple of weeks ago that as Republicans, we should be doing everything we possibly can to run somebody there because the reality is you might actually for a change get somebody elected. That might actually happen. So stranger things have happened. Given what's going on right now in New York City, you might actually have a shot. So the question is, what are we doing there? I'm not there. I don't live there. I don't know what the party's like there. I don't know who's in charge of the party. I don't know anything about the GOP of New York itself. So I have no clue what their plan is. But if they were smart, they would be collectively getting together and figuring out, even if they've got somebody picked right now, they should be looking at that and saying, okay, do we have the right pick? Yeah. Is this the person that we really need? Now, I don't know how all of that works systematically in New York City as far as the primaries and all of that stuff go. If the candidate we've got on our side is the right candidate or not, I don't know how all that works. Again, we don't live there. You guys know me. I've visited New York City a few times in the past, and there are a lot of people that live there. Let's just say that. It is a city that, honestly, I could not live in. There's lots of cities around the country that I could not live in, but that's one of them. Just the sheer number of individuals, traffic, and so on, yeah, not for me. Is it fun to visit maybe every now and again? Yeah, it has a cool factor in some cases and some places, I guess you could say, but at the end of the day, is it a place I would live in? No, farthest thing from. So it'll be interesting to see how this shakes out, who ends up actually running against this particular individual, what the Democrats actually do that don't want this particular person in there. They are in a conundrum, if you would, and it'll be interesting to see how all of this pans out. 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SPEAKER 07 :
So I talked to my brother and a few other people back east, including my crazy liberal sister. Sorry. That's all right. She's, you know, she's what, you know, she's your sister. You can't judge other than, you know, you know how that goes. Right. Um, It looks like Adams is going to run as an independent, the current mayor, who's not as far to the left as this lunatic. And I think he's gotten more towards the middle as his term has gone on, and he's seen what is really going on in New York City. So he's kind of got more pro-cop. We'll go with that. And then Curtis Sliwa is going to run again. He's gotten beat like three times as a Republican. So why run again?
SPEAKER 03 :
Is that the best we can do?
SPEAKER 07 :
Nobody else wants it. Everybody's afraid of the same thing. You're going to get crucified in the general, and it kind of destroys your political career. You know what I mean? So the Democrats that don't want this lunatic are kind of getting together, and they're all kind of – They want to get one of the two to drop out. Because they know if the Republican runs and the Independent runs, he's going to win just by default because the other two are going to split the vote. Kind of like when Perot took 13 points away from Bush Sr. and gave us Bill Clinton. Things like that. When you've got that third party that's going to take 15% away, it's usually from the Republican. Right. But I talked to some friends that are still there that one person said, yeah, as soon as my daughter graduates from school, I'm out of here. There's a lot of people that they don't want to pull their kids out of school as a senior. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 21 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
So they're going to ride it out for another year, year and a half, and then they're out of there. I ask them where they're going, and it's Florida, the Carolinas, Tennessee, San Francisco. Nobody wants to go to Texas. It's just too hot, they say, in the summertime, which you and I can kind of agree with. But they're just looking for different states. And when I said, well, you know, Wyoming's beautiful. We don't have state income tax. They said, yeah, but you have eight months of winter.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Can't argue that one either.
SPEAKER 07 :
So but, you know, it's just one of those things that if this happens in New York. and he gets elected and tries to put these things in, you could see some of the major... I could see one of the major stock markets pulling either the Amex or the New York Stock Exchange and saying, we're done, and pull out of there. And then that would destroy the city economy for good. But the big grocery store chain is D'Agostino. Trump was talking about the owner. This guy wants to take over his D'Agostino grocery chain in Manhattan and turn it into City Run. When has that ever worked in the history of anywhere government-run grocery stores that had anything on the shelves.
SPEAKER 03 :
It doesn't, as you know. No. And really quick, I did look up because I wanted to make sure that I was correct in what I said earlier. New York City, New York City, not state, New York City, 8.3 million people, GDP of $1.3 trillion. Yep. Bigger than probably most, not most, but yeah. In the United States, probably most states, probably bigger than most states.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I would say, you know, maybe Texas, maybe now that Florida's grown so much with a lot of business, and California might be bigger than New York City. But if you roll the state in, New York State's probably got the highest.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's unbelievable. When you think about it. When you think about that, that really is unbelievable.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, if you think about it, though, we had two really bad mayors, liberal Democrats, Cochran and Dickens, Koch served 12 years, and then Dinkins had one term because he was the worst. And that gave us Giuliani, but there's no Giuliani out there. That is the killer. And that is what's going to hurt.
SPEAKER 21 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, nobody to run. So, John, I don't know. It's going to be scary the next six months, but we'll figure it out.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
We always do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. You have a good rest of the day. You too. Appreciate you, John. Thank you very much. Sonny Kutcher joining us now. Young Americans Against Socialism. Sonny, welcome.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great to be back. It's been a while.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, that's okay. Summertime, stuff going on. Fully understand you had some travel things as well, which is great. No issues there. And I know we kind of chatted a little bit before coming on today, and I'm just appalled. I shouldn't be, because I know the left. I know how they operate. I shouldn't be appalled. But some of the... or most of, I should say, not some of, most of the remarks coming out of the left about the tragedy that's happened with the floods in Texas, Sunny, really does show you good versus evil.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. And I think we're seeing this over and over again, you know, with Hurricane Helene and the folks in North Carolina and just all these disasters that seem to just be, you know, much more frequent than they ever have been before. You see the, you know, people's true colors come out and especially now that, you know, President Trump is in office, I think they'll be they'll jump to blame, blame President Trump or, you know, the people in charge that, oh, this is them. And, you know, that's what they get for, you know, for voting a certain way or whatnot. And it's despicable.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then there's been comments about the kids that have died at the camp. Okay, that's great. They're dead. That means they won't turn out to be some white supremacist on down the road. It's a good thing. I mean, Sonny, I'm going to say it straight up. There have been some things stated I can't repeat on air. It's that vile and vulgar.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, absolutely. I think there was a viral video of one woman saying, saying that and turns out she's, you know, the black woman, she's married to a white minister. And she's saying these things, you know, that they deserved it. And I mean, it's just awful. It's really like, you know, like we said, we are truly fighting pure evil. And there are still hundreds, maybe even more, who knows how many people who are still stranded right now with these floods. I didn't even actually realize that. But as I was kind of, you know, looking into it, prior to coming on here, I realized that, wow, this flooding is still taking place, and these people are stranded, and they have no help. People are in the search rescues ongoing, and it's tragic.
SPEAKER 03 :
It really is, and again, for those of you that maybe haven't looked today, I believe the death toll is somewhere around 75. It may have grown since then. Still a lot of folks missing, Sonny. No, sorry, 109. It was 109, and there was 275 people missing, so that number likely will grow, and it is a total tragedy in the left. What's that old saying, Sonny? Never let a crisis go to waste. They aren't wasting anything on this one, that's for sure.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. That's the adage that we always, that represents the left. I mean, they are just, I don't know, there's something really sinister going on. I mean, we've known this, but it just seems that it's rearing its ugly head so much these days.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. No, you are – and again, I just – I wish I could even read to all of you some of the things that the left has said in regards to the floods in Texas, and the reality, Sonny, is I can't. And it's despicable. I mean, this just shows you the level of – They talk about how they're the party for the little guy. They're the party that cares, and they're the party that wants to make sure that everybody's got representation, and they're all whining about those that might be affected by the cuts in Medicare, or Medicaid, I should say, and on and on we go. The reality, Sunny, is nothing could be farther from the truth. They care nothing about people at all. Zero.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. All they care about is, I mean... an illusion, a theory, an agenda. And we're all pawns in this game. I struggle to think about, you know, if their plans were to really come to fruition, you know, what would life really be like? I think that a lot of the people who support the left would be smacked in the face with a dose of reality that, you know, we would all be slaves. We would all be slaves to their system. And some would argue that in a lot of ways, you know, paying taxes and this corporate system and the way that our society has progressed with this need to work, work, work and hustle. And, you know, women have like gone completely away from the traditional and gone girl bossing and all of these things that we are slaves to the system. And that's something I've been thinking about a lot recently. But at least we have, you know, a freedom to choose. So at least there is you know, a level of freedom in this country that in other countries, I was just traveling, I was in Italy and you just, you feel, you see the, the lack of motivation to work and not even, and I don't even mean to work, you know, like I just said, to hustle and grind and all of these things, but to, to value, um, service to value work to value being a you know participating member of society that actually values a customer you know that actually values oh we have a restaurant we're actually going to take care of the people that we're serving and and so on and so forth and i just wish that you know more young people in this country would understand that instead of going to the left because of course they are the ones pushing you know more welfare more dependence on the government and and and There you go. I think it really does boil down to those two, you know, to that dichotomy there.
SPEAKER 03 :
And a question came in, Andy, who's with me on Tuesdays and Fridays, just asked the question. We're kind of leading in that way anyways, you know, point blank asking, why do socialists hate people so much?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I believe that the core of this ideology, which, of course, you know, we're talking about socialism, hand-in-hand communism, Marxism, these, you know, these leaders, these thought leaders that came up with these ideas, these theories of economics, of the way the economy should be run, that they actually, well, first off, they hate God. They hate the idea of religion. They have something bigger than them that they're not in control of.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 14 :
And of course, I mean, power, greed, corruption runs our world. And if we think about, you know, not to like go totally rogue here, but with the Epstein files, like those people run our world. And for that power to be deduced, you know, to just a few people, a lot of the marks and a lot of those leaders, really didn't like the idea that they were not in control, and they were just, you know, these... I mean, Karl Marx couldn't even feed his family. He couldn't even keep the lights on in his home. That's right. And so the idea that, you know, they were trying to come up for themselves, for their families, most likely, and they're like, wait a second, okay, I know a way to kind of just, okay, first of all, I want to be in control, get God out of this completely, and and everyone should be on the same playing field why is it that you know some people rule the world some people are the one percent and some people are poor on the street and homeless uh this society's ills they believed were because of the structure of our society and the reality is that you cannot change the structure of this society it will always be there will always be a way you know a gap between the rich and the poor there will always be fluctuations in our societal classes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and really quick, Sunny, given that you just came from another part of the world, and I haven't been there for a while, so I can't say this straight up and probably didn't pay as much of it when I was there, wasn't paying as much attention to these sorts of things as probably I would be now or you are. And you're right. I don't care what society it is. You're always going to have these gaps between the haves and the have-nots, although I will tell you in the United States of America, I think that gap is a lot less than it is in other countries. So my question was, given the fact that you've just gone overseas, what are the gaps in other countries like between the haves and the have-nots?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, you know, it's interesting. You don't really see, you know, you don't see homeless people. I was in Milan, you know, one of the biggest cities in Italy, and you don't see homeless people. You don't see, I mean, maybe rarely, but you're not seeing panhandlers. You don't see any of that. And I think it's partially because there is a lot of, they are sustained a lot by the government. And also, the cost of living is much lower. I mean, they're, of course, in the touristy areas of Milan, it's very expensive. But then when you kind of go outskirts, It's a lot cheaper in Italy. It really, truly is. In Europe, it's a lot cheaper. The cost of living is lower. They use less ingredients. You know, there's just so many factors that go into that. And I think so, you know, the people who are who are rich just stay wealthy and the people who are kind of in the middle or lower, they just stay at that same level. And it just goes on like that. Whereas in America, we are the country that is entrepreneurial. We are the land of entrepreneurs, people who are self-made billionaires, self-made millionaires. And that is just much more rare in countries like Italy, for example.
SPEAKER 03 :
Interesting. And I know Italy, part of the reason why some of those costs are lower, to your point, is they have done everything they can in recent years, especially since COVID, to encourage people to come there because their birth rate is so low, they won't be able to retain what they've got in regards to economic viability if they don't do something about it. So they're encouraging people like you and I to move there.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Would you ever move to Italy?
SPEAKER 03 :
I visited there, and I will tell you that it's not bad. I mean, I don't know if it's my full cup of tea. It's beautiful. It's actually not as populated as a lot of people may think. Some of the bigger cities, of course, are, which we have here in the U.S. as well. I mean, I guess I'm one of those, Sonny, where I could pretty much live anywhere if the conditions are right. I will say climate-wise, which I guess as I get older is something I look at more and more, Yeah, as far as the climate is concerned, yeah, I could do that. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I'll tell you, it was about 95 degrees. I was there the entire time, and it was excruciating. It was so miserably hot and humid. It normally does get pretty hot there in the summertime, but I think I just happened to be there during a heat wave, of course. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, but in their winters, as you know, are much milder than, of course, what we have here in Colorado. I know you guys in California, you're in a whole different world, and you're used to a pretty constant thing out there where you guys are at. But, you know, I think most Coloradans would go to Italy in the winter and think, wow, this is balmy. This is really nice. And it is.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is. It is. Actually, yeah, it does have that, you know, really emotional. paradise feeling to it where it is balmy and uh and la i mean even at night here it's getting 65 degrees 70 degrees so it does it's getting it gets cool um but you know i don't know the lifestyle is just different there they don't have air air conditioning is rare you know you're hard to find good air conditioning uh and like i said there's just this this general atmosphere of like they're angry at tourists, but yet they need tourists.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, yep, it's a love-hate relationship. Yep, you know, places like Hawaii, it's a similar situation, Sunny. They hate tourists, but they know they have to have them because it's the lifeblood, but if they had their way about it ultimately and you could do without them, they would, but the reality is they can't, so they put up with it. I think there's a lot of places around the world, especially some of the touristy areas that are very much that way. But to your point earlier, I think the biggest reason why, you know, you see... And that – what I want to say, that hatred or that uncaring for others, especially those that are in need when it comes from the socialist, communist side of things to what we have here in America is, number one, just the love of people in general because I just believe that the left doesn't care anything about people whatsoever. And then Andy, you know, is texting me reminding me to, you know, the opportunity. And you said it yourself. The opportunity that we have here, you know, capitalism creates opportunity that you don't get without it. I was thinking I was on I was on vacation last week as well. And I'm thinking, OK, all of all of these. things that are built in every tourist area around the world frankly sunny yes i get it europeans travel but not like americans do and the reality is sunny the majority of destinations that people go to are built off america's money not someone else's absolutely in other words capitalism built those areas too is my point oh absolutely of course
SPEAKER 14 :
Of course, because we value, you know, we want to see the world. We want to see all these great places. You know, I just wish that people would have that same level of fortitude, of interest in helping our cities right now at this time. It's just really, you know, I mean, I don't know. I'm really struggling to see where we are going to be in the next 10 years. You know, having President Trump in office, he's doing so many great things. But our cities are just really in major decline. And it is really quite sad to see. And yet you still have, you know, Americans, of course, they want to go see the world. They want to go see Milan and Florence and all these beautiful places. uh, but, uh, it's just, it is frustrating. I want our entrepreneurs to invest in this country because it's where we really, we really need it. And, you know, when you do travel, like there was one couple that I was interacting with and they were like, well, you know, America is a superpower. Like you guys run everything, like whatever Trump says goes, you know, like, especially the last 10 years, he's been, you know, in the new, he's, he's been a leader, but, um, not like we always have been, we've always been a leader in the world and the global landscape. And, So we still have that power and influence. But it's, you know, when you come here, you kind of see, okay, well, things are not doing too well. So what do we do about that? You know, we need to really get ourselves back on track.
SPEAKER 03 :
Agreed. So along those lines, talk to us about Young Americans Against Socialism, what people can do as they go to you guys' website and pick up material. It's not only for kids. Adults can use it as well. Talk about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Well, we are an organization to educate Americans about socialism, about these topics, these theories that are absolutely threatening our young people by selling them this lie that socialism is the way forward, that that is the answer to our world's problems, that it's the greatest solution that has been tried so many times but has just never been solved. And, you know, YAS is here to tell you that freedom is the way forward, that socialism will never bring about the solutions that we are looking for, that will make our cities and our countries better. And so we have resources on our website where you can download our curriculum, Intro to Socialism, or our guide to learn about various topics pertaining to socialism and freedom, of course. And especially one, you know, in light of July 4th being just recently. We have From the Revolution to the Constitution, which will help you and your family and your children especially learn about the sacrifices that were made during the American Revolution that led to the creation of the Constitution, why our freedom and the principles that our country was founded on are so special and unique and precious that we need to protect and preserve and defend. So the website is yas.org, Y-A-A-S.org. and we're happy to have your support, really grateful for it. And sometimes I'm on Newsmax and different things like that, so keep an eye out. I definitely will let you know next time.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right.
SPEAKER 14 :
But, yeah, thank you so much, and we're happy to be here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Always, always, always. Appreciate you, Sonny. Keep up the great work. Tell everybody there hi. We appreciate you greatly.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And yeah, a theme that we kind of had going on today, Richard Battle started us off with, you know, what legacy are you going to leave? And it's not always about wealth and money. And then, of course, talking to Sonny about the left's response to what's happening in Texas. And there's still lots that will be unfolded there. And And I hate to speculate on what went wrong in some areas. I talked a little bit about that on the National Crawford Roundtable today. You'll be able to hear that tonight, myself and Neil Boron. But in reality, I don't know everything that happened leading up to that particular event, although after reading some of the stories that have come out so far— You just have to wonder, were people just completely ignoring some of the warnings that were out there? And again, I don't have those answers. But what I do know, and I talked about this yesterday, is the left's response to this and anybody that would come out and say that it's good that children died is an absolute sicko. Period. No other way to look at it. That is a possessed, evil individual that is so filled with vile and hate and, you know, just utter, utter hate for human beings that, quite frankly, they don't deserve to live in this country. I'll say it that way. They don't deserve to live here. That's somebody that ought to get a one-way ticket out of here and just be done with it. I get it. We should allow people to speak their minds and say what they want, and I'll always protect people's rights as far as the First Amendment is concerned. But you've got to look at the core of what somebody's saying and why, and if they're that miserable— that they would go as far as to say something along those lines, why are they living here? I mean, if they hate this country so much, why don't they move? Why don't they leave? Some of you from the left that are listening to me right now, why are you here? If you hate what goes on in this country so much and you have such a hatred and you're just out to get everybody that's on our side of the aisle and you would say something as vile as that, why are you still here? I'll buy you a one-way ticket wherever you want to go. Just don't come back. And I mean that sincerely. Don't come back. Pack your belongings. Get out of here. Go to another country. And by the way, though, I've said this before. My only catch to that is you can't go to a first- or second-world country. You're going to a third-world country. So if you don't like it here, pack your bags up, and I'll send you to a one-way ticket to a third-world country and see how you like it once you get there. We'll be back. Hour number three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Author Robert George joining us now. Robert, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm very well. Thank you, John, for having me on your show. Good.
SPEAKER 16 :
A new book just came out yesterday, Seeking Truth and Speaking Truth. And I always ask folks that write books, why the book?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I wrote the book because I've been teaching young men and women as a professor at Princeton University for four decades now. And I've become very concerned that universities have lost their way. They no longer are forming our young men and women to be determined truth seekers and courageous truth speakers. And those young men and women, in many cases, have lost their way. They've lost their grip on the very concept of truth. They now identify truth with their feelings or their emotions. And our feelings and emotions are not very reliable guides to truth and We're going down a very bad road, I think, when we identify truth so it's how we feel.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, I can't argue that at all. You are spot on. So, A, thank you for writing about that and getting that message out because that has been something that I think, Robert, I've been on air now for 11 years here on a daily basis. I've been doing a weekend show longer than that, but on a daily basis I've been doing it 11 years, and I will tell you in those 11 years what you're talking about has done nothing but get worse.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen it over these four decades, just get worse. But we're going to have to turn it around. I mean, if we're going to save this treasured experiment of Republican government and ordered liberty that our founders bequeathed us, we're going to have to Teach our young people to love the truth, to value the truth, to strive for the truth.
SPEAKER 16 :
So how do we do that? You wrote a book. I'm sure you've got some details in there. But how do we do that? How do we get somebody that is so used to gauging truth off of how they feel about something or how they feel about even truth itself, how do we get them to understand that you could have feelings about it, but they could be completely wrong?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, that's right. Well, it didn't end very well for him personally, but I think our role model here really should be Socrates. How did Socrates bring people around? How did he reason with people? it was basically a matter of asking questions. I think we need to confront people, especially our students, especially our children, our young men and women, confront them with questions. Why do you believe what you believe? Why do you feel the way you feel? Have you considered the argument on the other side? Have you allowed yourself to be challenged by the best arguments, the best evidence that people who think differently would provide? And of course, often the answer to that question is going to be, no, you know, I've been here in this silo. I I've been just being reinforced in what I already believe by the people I associate with and the things I read and what I see on the Internet or watch on TV. So I think the strategy of questioning, just like Socrates on the streets of Athens, is the way to go.
SPEAKER 16 :
I can't, again, can't disagree with that at all. And I will say this, even though I'm very much a strong conservative, that's what this program is about. We have strong conservative ideals and so on. A lot of what you just talked about, you know, that's us. I want to see this republic, and I'm always careful to not call it a democracy because it's not. We are a republic, and I want to see it stay that way. And yet I will tell you, Robert, that I think both sides— Both sides, and I'm sorry to say this, but both sides can be victim to what you're talking about in regards to letting emotions guide what's going on versus the facts.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, John, you're so right. Look at how many people, whether they're on the right or the left, and I myself am like you, I'm a conservative, I'm a strong conservative, but look how many people on our own side as well as on the other side are in silos. You know, on one side you have people who watch MSNBC and they read the New York Times or the or the Nation magazine, these left-wing magazines, or go to the left-wing websites, you know. And on the other side, people, they only watch Fox News. They only read the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. They only read National Review. So that means we're just being reinforced in what we already believe. And my belief as a professor, John, my belief is that my job isn't really to get students to agree with me. That's just not my job. My job is to confront students, challenge students with the best arguments possible across the spectrum. You know, the ones that persuade me, but the ones that I've considered and don't persuade me, but I think that students should be exposed to them. And then we empower our students that way to be better thinkers, deeper thinkers, and above all, independent thinkers. The problem right now is there's not enough independent thought.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, there's not. I mean, I've been an employer.
SPEAKER 05 :
People don't get on board with fashion.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. I've been an employer the majority of my adult life, Robert, and I will tell you that the critical thinking skills and that end of things for even people you're hiring as employees, nonetheless talking about just social issues and politics in general, but really getting down to even how do you problem-solve Robert, we have lost all of that. I'm sorry to say, but we have.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And these are critical skills and critical virtues. Absolutely. And skills are the virtues. And, you know, well, look, we can't just curse the darkness here. No. We've done that for too long, especially those of us on the conservative. That's right. We've been cursed in the darkness for too long. We need to light a candle. We need to renew especially civic education in the United States. That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
I say this all the time, and I want to take this one step further, because while I am critical of the left in a lot of cases, I just talked about that in the last hour in regards to a lot of the comments that have been made about the tragedy in Texas and the flooding and so on, and what some people have said, which I can't even believe the words that come out of some folks' mouth, Robert, but that's a whole other discussion. But outside of that, I think for us, and I want to get your opinion on this, I think for us on the conservative side, We have to be a model. And what I mean by that is we can't live, and you said it earlier, we can't live in a silo either. We have to know what both sides are saying. We have to be independent thinkers. We have to be able to think outside the box, if you would. And let me give you an example. And I know there's a lot of people out there that are probably going to get mad at me for using this example. But all of the, you know, the election was stolen in 2020. And I've said this for years. Is every election out there fair and honest? No. Men are evil. Men do things that they want to do to make sure that they win. And I don't know if there's ever been a quote-unquote fair election since the beginning of time. In other words, one that didn't have any cheating in it at all, Robert. I don't think that's ever existed since the beginning of time.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's an imperfect world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's an imperfect world. That's right. Any institution, including a republic, is going to have some flaws. That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's exactly right. So given that, and I really kind of stayed away from all of the conversation about voting machines and this, that and the other and the nefarious things going on. And I will tell you, though, that there is, in my opinion, there was a faction of our side that got so ingrained in all of that that we lost sight of the next election and and what we needed to do candidacy-wise to actually win in the next election. In other words, it clouded us so much because we were still so upset over something that happened that we lost sight of the next election and, frankly, lost.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, John, do you remember what happened in the Senate election in Georgia in 2022? Yes. Do you remember this? Yes. We have now lost two seats in Georgia that should be in conservative and Republican hands, and it was our fault. It was our fault that we lost those seats. It's exactly what you're talking about here.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And my point with everybody listening is we can't be that influence. And I've talked about influence a lot today. It kind of started that way in the four o'clock hour, Robert. And the reality is we need to be an influence, leave a legacy, all of that. But the reality is we can't do that if we ourselves live in our own bubble, our own silo.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's right. And the message in my book, in Seeking Truth and Speaking Truth, is every bit as much directed at conservatives as it is to progressives or liberals. I want my team to be the best that they can possibly be. But they can't be the best they can possibly be if they're involved in groupthink and conformism and dogmatism. And that's why we need to get out of the silos. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love it. You are welcome here anytime, Robert. I've appreciated the conversation. Where do folks get the book? I know it just came out yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's available at all the online booksellers. If you go to Encounter Books, the publisher, they're offering it with a 25% discount. The promo code is simply Age of Feeling. But I am grateful to you for the opportunity to talk about the book. And I hope that people will consider not only reading the book themselves, but giving the book to their children and grandchildren. Those are really my special audiences here. I want to do something that will really move our kids in the direction of being determined truth seekers and courageous truth speakers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Awesome. Robert, I appreciate it again. It's been great. Enjoy the rest of your day, and thank you so much for your time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. Bye-bye now, Tom.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on?
SPEAKER 04 :
John, I wanted to call in when Sonny Kutcher, right after Sonny Kutcher was on, didn't get a chance. And I don't know if you had a chance to check the email I sent you today, but she was talking about socialism. And you remember when Reagan way back said, if you want more of something, you subsidize it. If you want less of something, you tax it. Yep. Well, you know, the quote from Thomas Sowell is along those lines, and he said, you cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible. Right. So here we are, oh, you're having multiple children you can't feed, and the more kids you can't feed you have, the more we're going to give you. John, we're subsidizing that's irresponsible. That's right. Kids borrowing... almost $100,000 to get a college education that will never increase their earning power enough to pay the loan back. And of course, the Democrats and the Biden have wanted to subsidize that and make those loans go away. That's irresponsibility. So the whole Democrat philosophy, I believe, is whether intentional or not, is basically subsidizing your responsibility.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I watched, it's funny you say that, because I was watching some video today that there were some folks, you know, reposting and commenting on some posts that have been put out from some quote-unquote, I don't know what else to call them, liberals talking about quote-unquote Medicaid cuts. And some of these are individuals where, you know, they're talking about Joe where, and this is a rather robust woman, so I'm not saying she's fat by any means, but she's definitely not, she hasn't missed a meal, let's just say it that way. So she's on camera and she's talking about how with Medicaid she's now going to lose her, what I would consider to be very expensive, implanted birth control device that, by the way, if she didn't have, she'd have to go out and pay for that on her own, which the rest of us have had to do over the years, by the way, Joe. those of us that are not on Medicaid. She talked about how the fact that she has two different homes that she now has to watch kids in. Evidently, there's an ex-baby daddy where she watches those kids because he has to go to work and earn a living. So she's the built-in babysitter, yet her husband is a stay-at-home dad there because while she's gone watching the— The kids from the first marriage, he's watching the kids now in this marriage, and they're going to lose all their health care, and on and on and on we go. And I'm thinking to myself, you're the very person that shouldn't be on Medicaid. You are able to go out, get a job. Your new husband's able to get a job. You haven't because, to your point, Joe, we've incentivized you to stay home.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And by the way, if she truly is a caregiver, she's not in danger of losing her Medicaid.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, there's a difference between a caregiver and a babysitter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, a babysitter is one thing, but if they were her kids and that she was giving care to her kids. But yeah, the requirement is very, very simple. You either work 20 hours a week or go to state-sponsored job training, free state-sponsored job training 20 hours a week. Right. But it's actually 80 hours a month. It doesn't have to be.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, that's right. It's 80 hours a month. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. So it doesn't have to be 20-20-20. It could be 40-0-40 or whatever. And or do 80 hours a month worth of community service, which you can knock out in a couple of weekends. So why doesn't she, you know, why does she not want to avail herself?
SPEAKER 16 :
No offense, Joe, because up to this point, she hasn't had to. She hasn't had to. You and I have been paying her bills, essentially.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. And Thomas Hull said something, I quoted him about a month ago. He said when people have received preferential treatment, when you take that preferential treatment away from them, they feel they're being discriminated against. And this is a classic case. This woman has been given preferential treatment. The government's been buying her food. That's right. Paying for her medical care. And now they're saying, hey, we're not going to do that anymore. Now she's screaming, you're discriminating against me.
SPEAKER 16 :
Which actually is the opposite. If anything, Joe, I've been discriminated against. I'm writing her checks, essentially.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. Absolutely correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
And it's just a bunch of, I mean, I'm sorry, Joe, some of this stuff just gets under my skin because, to your point, we incentivize the wrong behavior.
SPEAKER 04 :
We incentivize irresponsibility, and we expect people to become more responsible after we've spent literally, well, almost a trillion dollars a year incentivizing irresponsibility. I mean, and by the way, if you're a single mother, the more kids you have, the more money you get from the government every month. You get more SNAP benefits, more Section 8 housing benefits, more heating assistance benefits per child. So it goes up and up and up. So that's where we are.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, to your point, we incentivize, and that's part of what this new bill was, you know, law now is trying to correct. And by the way, folks, everybody listening, it's not going to correct at all. It's not going to fix every situation. You're still going to have some folks out there that know how to scam and game the system because, Joe, they have spent more time doing that than you and I do working, and they know the system. You're not going to cure it all, but we've got to start someplace.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And by the way, and all the scare tactics and hyperbole, they're going to throw grandma out of nursing home. No, they're not. No. States, first of all, Medicare enrollment is managed by the states. They get to set their own rules and limits and whatnot. And, you know, right now, I think in Colorado, one-third of our population is on Medicaid in Colorado. Is that correct, John?
SPEAKER 16 :
That sounds about right. I wasn't surprised. I think that's right. I think it's what I read the other day, so I believe that's correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, about a third. Now, a great many of those people, John, they're not poor. They're not even at the poverty level, not even close to the poverty level. They have jobs, and their employer, like if you work at Walmart, you know, one or both of you in that household has access to an employer-subsidized health insurance plan. Right. That employer subsidized health insurance plan, as you know, typically has a monthly or weekly payroll deduction.
SPEAKER 16 :
There's payroll deductions and co-pays in it. That's right, deductibles and so on.
SPEAKER 04 :
And you go to the office, co-pay. Or I can jump on the state of Colorado's Medicaid plan, no payroll deduction, no co-pays, no deductible. Right. Which plan are you going to pick, John?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, Joe, of course, the one that doesn't cost me as much.
SPEAKER 04 :
That doesn't cost you anything, anything.
SPEAKER 16 :
And then on top of that, probably gets me as good a care.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, probably get you as good a care.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, yeah, the answer there is easy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Easy. I'm going to go on the state-sponsored Medicaid player, which doesn't cost me a nickel versus my employer's plan that might cost me $60 to $80 a month in payroll deductions and $20 every time I go to the doctor. Of course you're going to go on Medicaid.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. Yeah, to your point, because that's what we've incentivized.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's what we've incentivized to get on Medicaid. And, by the way, do you know half a dozen states – openly allow illegal aliens to participate in their Medicaid.
SPEAKER 16 :
Which, again, this one is, as you know, that's part of what got fixed here. So part of what the left's story is that all these people are going to lose their Medicaid benefits, no, they're not. What's going to happen is some of the things that you and I have already talked about, plus what you just said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, by the way, states can still allow illegal aliens on their Medicaid plan, but they'll be excluded from the federal reimbursement rate. Right. It's on their own. If California wants to keep a million illegal aliens enrolled in Medi-Cal, which is their Medicaid program, they're free to do that. But when they go to ask the federal government for their reimbursement share, the federal government says, no, those people are excluded. And all those people, and if they have people that they've decided to leave on who aren't complying with the work requirements... They're free to do that, but the federal government's not going to pick up one penny of the people who don't meet the requirements.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick, Joe, as you're talking about this, there's some articles out today talking about some of this here locally, and I'm not buying the whole, well, these states are going to be spending millions of dollars now to do these work verification things. No, folks, I'm sorry. That is a total bunch of BS. If the state can't figure out... how to incorporate its payroll reporting system, which all of us are part of no matter what state you live in. Joe, if they can't figure out that you and I worked X amount of hours and X amount of dollars last month, you know what? It doesn't take millions of dollars to figure that out. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it doesn't, John. Even though I was the head of a company in Colorado, plus down at my ranch I actually had a – a ranch manager, a live-in barn manager, and I had to personally do his payroll myself every week. and I reported Social Security number, wages, everything else to the state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, Joe, here's where I'm going with that. If that's the number and it's going to take somewhere between, Colorado estimates, $5 million to $7 million a year to manage that side of things, which I just find absurd, then we need new computer programmers that will make that information more viable across certain departments, in this case Medicaid. They ought to be able to see right away if so-and-so is working or not.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it's just a couple lines of computer code, John. And maybe it's a one-time... $2 million software development program, but it's not $5 to $7 million a year forever and ever.
SPEAKER 16 :
You ought to automate that, in fact, Joe. In fact, if it isn't, shame on the state or whoever for not having that automated, which I hate to say this, Joe, this is one of the complaints I have about government, is the fact that they don't look at the things that you and I are talking about often enough. They'll run the same old crappy software for 100 years if they can.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And it's endemic within all phases of government, John.
SPEAKER 16 :
It sure is. It sure is.
SPEAKER 04 :
We've talked about all the inefficiencies in DMV and how we could fix things and streamline things, but that would make jobs go away, John. By the way, Did you know in the last jobs report, more than half the job growths were in government, not federal, city, state, and municipal jobs?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's right. So your tax dollars at work, folks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Your tax dollars at work. And by the way, I think the number of—I don't recall the exact numbers, but about two years ago, the growth in the population of Colorado— versus the growth in the number of state employees. It was some ridiculous ratio. Um, I remember that the, uh, like the population of Colorado doubled, you know, doubled over some 10 year period. and the number of state employees quadrupled. I think that's about right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I remember that.
SPEAKER 04 :
The ratio.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
So why do we need twice the growth in state employees? We don't. Particularly with automation.
SPEAKER 16 :
We don't.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, we don't.
SPEAKER 16 :
With AI now, Joe, and everything that's coming along those lines, we don't. It should be going the other direction, actually.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Economy's a scale. In other words, as you get larger and larger, you should be able to do more. That's right. In business, John, you know, you have a fixed overhead. that is typically not 100% utilized. And as you get more and more revenues, more and more customers, you may have to, you know, in business, I would grow my I would grow my revenues by 30% and only have to grow my overhead by 10% because you get economies of scale.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's exactly right. We don't do that in government, Joe. It's the opposite.
SPEAKER 04 :
We do it the other way. That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And, yeah, again, thank you, Joe, for calling in and reminding everybody that, yes, you end up getting what you incentivize for. And, unfortunately, we are a country that has incentivized a lot of wrong things, a lot of wrong behavior, and that is very unfortunate. Our next guest joining us, who'd been with us before, Amon Blair. Welcome back. How are you? Or Amon, I should say. Amon Blair, how are you? Good. Good. How are you? I'm doing great, Eamon. OK, so Texas Public Policy Foundation. Let's talk about that for a moment before we get into what's happened in Texas, by the way.
SPEAKER 18 :
Sure. We are the largest state based think tank in the nation and we help conservative policy pass in our state legislature.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. And I've talked about this a lot this week, and my heart and thoughts and prayers go out to a lot of those folks that are not only in Texas, but folks that are around the country that could even have family and relatives, you know, their friends there. And it's just a tragedy what happened. And really what I find to be the most tragic is how the left has responded to this.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, it's unfortunate how they claim to say that we need to stop making this into a political situation, but at the same time they're making it into a political situation.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
It's kind of sad.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and I hate to say a whole lot because they're still looking for, you know, survivors, those that are missing. The death toll is now way over 100, as you know, and it's just, I mean, and I hate the way that the left has politicized this. We've got young children especially that, you know, were lost in this. It's just absolutely tragic, and again, you know, my heart and prayer goes out to all those individuals that are affected by that, and it's just tragic any time there's loss of life.
SPEAKER 18 :
100%. Yeah. And to be honest, if any of your listeners want to help, they can actually go to if they go to Twitter or X and go to United Cajun Navy. They posted up there a direct link to an Amazon account. where people can donate materials on what the people actually need. And so you're not having to go through NGOs or state-based programs. It goes straight to the victims.
SPEAKER 16 :
And United Cajun Navy. Make sure I get this right. Okay, perfect. The Cajun Navy. That is awesome. I was not aware of that. How has the state been affected by this? You're there. You're right in the thick of it. What's it like there, given all of what's just happened this last weekend?
SPEAKER 18 :
It's hell on earth. And to be honest, I mean, the governor today also just announced the legislative items that are going to be on the special session, and four of them are directly related to disaster response because of this. So because of this tragedy, it has now made the state kind of realize on what we're lacking in terms of response.
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Yeah.
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Do you think there will be anything that comes out of this? Again, just reading through, and I'm always hesitant to point any kind of blame on things until everything comes out to know exactly where were some of the missteps, if any. I do know, though, that in that particular area, they didn't have, which we don't have here either, and it's probably something that we have some things in Colorado going on that we should think of. We don't have the sirens and things that a lot of coastal areas have when it comes to tsunamis and hurricanes and so on. that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, 100%. In fact, it should be above and beyond that. And that's why we actually helped with a policy to go in this last legislative cycle, House Bill 4914. And that was actually to reconstitute the Texas State Guard to be the premier disaster response and Homeland Defense Guard unit in the nation, a kind of pattern after Florida's model. Okay. And And unfortunately, it didn't make it out of the committee. I did testify actually on that bill and helped Representative Hopper on that. And so there are many things that each of our states can actually do, but that's one of them. is rapid response. In fact, not after the fact, but before. As I said, the National Weather Service put out a warning on July 2nd that this is going to happen. And so at that time period, many organizations should have already responded. And in fact, it was the Austin Fire Chief that denied his firefighters and his special operators to go out there. And so there's a lot of... And really quick, for what reason?
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, what was the reasoning behind that? I'm confused.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so what he said, his official statement is the same, because it was cost and logistics. However, on these type of events, the state of Texas comes in and pays for those costs.
SPEAKER 16 :
To be reimbursed anyways. Yes, yep. And I'm assuming what you're talking about is they could have been out on the forefront. You're out there basically 36 to 48 hours ahead, and even 24 hours in advance would be huge. They could be rolling through a lot of these areas, a lot of the camps and so on, instructing on a one-on-one basis that, hey, this is what's coming. We need you to leave. If you don't leave, you're on your own. I mean, those are sorts of things. It's a free country. You can stay if you want to, but just keep in mind, this is what's going to happen, and this is what's on its way. You could have been doing that on a face-to-face basis is what you're saying. Am I right in thinking that? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 18 :
100%. And that's why actually Team Rubicon was actually originally created. They are the lead disaster response nonprofit, and they have a team that monitors this. And so whenever something like this is about to happen, they pre-stage. And so not only are they disaster relief, but they're disaster response. and they also go through a lot of training as well. And that's why they were able to respond quicker, as well as the United Cajun Navy. They were able to respond quicker than the state did on many aspects, and they're coming in from, like, Louisiana. And that's why each state needs to look at this, go through the AARs. There's a lot of loss of life, but In order to mitigate lost life in the future, we really need to look at this and look at how NGOs are being able to respond without bureaucratic nonsense.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, no, anytime there's a – I mean, this is general business principles. The reality is you look at a failure. You look at what could we have done differently to avoid that failure. Let's fix it so we don't have this again in the future. If we don't do that, we're just dumb. I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say. We're just stupid.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, 100%, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
We've got to do that. What else can folks do besides United Cajun Navy? What can folks here do to help those that are in need in Texas?
SPEAKER 18 :
Really, that's it. Unless they have time to come down and help the disaster relief process. And there's a website. I'm trying to remember what it is. I think it's Crisis Cleanup. And you can get on there and It will show the direct areas that they need help with, whether that's mucking out homes. There's a lot of mold, just like any hurricanes and flooding. And so the crisis cleanup, you get on that site, and you can go and volunteer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Other things that have happened of late that we could get into for a moment as well is, of course, Big Beautiful Bill, that passed. There's a lot, again, left naysayers, people that are – are elderly that are in a nursing home. They're going to lose their care. They're going to get kicked out. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Nothing has even been stated along those lines. Really, that was an area where we, on our side, we just want to clean things up and not incentivize the wrong things.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, 100%. And all the money that was afforded and also codified, the executive orders that were codified for border security and internal security is really big. I know a additional 10,000 additional ICE agents, more funding for the wall and everything else. So now is the hard part. Just like when Trump came in, that didn't mean that we could just kick back and relax. That meant that the window of opportunity to work now opened. And same thing with this. The window of opportunity to now actually put our elbows in the grease and everything else like that and the boots on the ground to get things done is now. So that's the hard work. The hard work is now about to begin.
SPEAKER 16 :
What would you say to some of those folks out there listening that are claiming that Donald Trump hasn't done enough to deport certain individuals and so on? The actual numbers, if you look at what some of the previous administrations have done up to this point in time versus what Trump is doing, even though Trump from the left is being criticized and basically said he's deporting everybody, actually the numbers don't say that. What would your response be to those folks that say he's not doing enough of that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, that's because he's not a king. We live in a constitutional republic, and he needs the help from all local, county, city, and state law enforcement agencies in order for this to actually happen. And unfortunately, to say that... Just because you may not be a sanctuary city, you may be a sanctuary city by just cynical mission, by not actually helping ICE and everyone else. And so like here in Texas, we even had the deputy director of DPS, our state agency, testify against Tom Homan's plan this last legislative cycle. Said it was that DPS, that was not the job for state law enforcement. And so still today, they have not signed a 287G agreement with ICE.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. Wow. I like what you just said a moment ago. You may not be a sanctuary city, but by your omission, you are. Correct. Yeah, makes total sense. All right. How do folks find you and support what's going on at the Texas Public Policy Foundation?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, sir. If they can just go to TexasPolicy.com, you can see what we're doing there. Our initiative is Secure and Sovereign Texas. That's where we talk about immigration enforcement, border security, and all things public safety.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nice. And I don't think I told you this last time you were on. We actually are Signal. I get people that listen in on the air, not through our app, not through the Internet, but listen on air in the panhandle. Texas and Oklahoma so we have listeners that are actually in your state so we appreciate what you guys are doing I know they do as well they would attest to that so thank you very much I appreciate it greatly
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, thank you so much for having me on.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're awesome. Anytime you want to come back, let me know.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yes, sir.
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All right, Ammon, thank you very much. Have a great rest of your day. Ammon Blair, and again, Senior Fellow at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith. We heard from Al, by the way, at 3 o'clock, talking about IRAs today. If you've got something in an IRA, I should say, where you don't feel like it's performing as well as it should, talk to Al today. Find him at klzradio.com.
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So in some cases, these kids are now 13 years of age is all. That's the youngest, and, of course, the older ones will be much older than that, of course, but 1997 to 2012. Now, one thing that I looked up just, what's a Gen Z? Because I wanted to know the particular age of the particular years of when they're born and so on. And one of the things, and by the way, I'm going to disagree with this. Because one of the things that I looked up and AI spit out an answer, and it basically said that Gen Z are tech savvy because they grew up in the digital age. I'll tell you straight up, wrong. Wrong answer. They might be tech savvy and How to Snapchat and how to do this and how to do that. But when it comes to the actual interworkings of computers and what you do to set up things and set up email and do this and do that, yeah, no, nothing could be farther from the truth. They're not tech savvy. They're tech savvy in the end user, I think, experience end of things. But as far as the back end of things is concerned, they have a... They don't have the foggiest idea what's going on. Some do, but most don't. So that one I'm going to argue even with AI on because, no, most of them are not what I would consider to be tech savvy. They know how to use the tech, but how the tech actually works and the inner workings of, and if there's a problem, how do you fix it? No, foggiest idea how any of that works. So sorry, not picking on them. I'm picking on AI, I guess you could say. So 10 things Gen Z says that you're not allowed to do anymore. Number one, leave voicemails. This one I just had to laugh at because I leave voicemails pretty regularly. It depends on who you're trying to get in touch with. Now, I will say this. I, on my phone, have set up that this is who you've reached, and you can leave a voicemail, but you'll get me a lot faster if you text me. Now, what Gen Z is saying is they don't leave text messages because they don't want to scare you. They would rather have you text them back. I get that, and I can kind of understand that, although I think the younger generation needs to learn how to leave a voicemail. They need to know how to set up their voicemail box correctly. People still talk to one another. I think Gen Zers struggle with being on the phone in general. They're so used to typing and doing that end of things that they don't even talk on the phone much, where all of—not all, but a lot of you guys that are listening— you were used to having the extra super long 35-foot phone cord that you could roll all the way back into your bedroom down the hall because, A, the houses were smaller, and, B, the phone cord was super long. And if you wanted any kind of privacy, that's about the only thing you could do because we didn't have any other options. And you talked on the phone. Friend, girlfriend, whatever, that's what you did. Yeah, I know I'm dating myself, but when we were younger, that's how it worked. And yes, you dialed the phone. You didn't push the touchtone. You literally dialed the phone. I remember when touchtone phones came out. That's how old I am. So anyways, they don't want you to use voicemail. Also, you can no longer use the crying, laughing emoji. So if you respond to somebody in a text message, you're not allowed to use that. I have no idea why. They think it's cringe. Again, this is a generation that, I'm sorry to say, most of them have a hard time holding down a job. I'm not trying to be critical, but most of them do. So these are people telling me what I should do with my emojis that can't hold down a full-time job. Wearing skinny jeans as the default. Right now the trend is the barrel-type jeans, I guess you could say, where there's more of a just, it's like a round tube that you have running down your leg. There's actually no style to it whatsoever, which, by the way, I find absolutely appalling. I hate the way those things look, but, hey, to each his own. I'm one of those where it's like, you know what, you wear what you want. I could care less. I'm the last person going to judge you for what you wear. As long as you're not wearing pajamas to the airport, you're good because that I can't stand. That's a whole other conversation I won't get into. But if there's any one thing that bugs me when I travel is people that can't stink and get out of their jammies and comb their hair before getting on the airplane. I mean, give me a break. You're in public. Most of these people wear things I wouldn't pick up dog poop in, and I mean that sincerely. So the next one, you cannot, and we've talked about this before, you cannot respond to a text message with a thumbs up. That's very degrading to that younger generation. They would prefer you actually type in a short reply like, sounds good. So no thumbs up. I still do thumbs up. I don't care if it offends somebody on the other end. It doesn't matter to me. It's an emoji. Grow some skin. Get a little thicker skin. Charlie said they don't like me saying that either. That's true. Yeah, you can't say that either because that's derogatory. Can't see a man up. That's right. That's the last one on this list. Can't see a man up. Double spacing after a period. Now, most of us grew up in typing school to where you double spaced after the period. I will be straight up honest. I haven't double spaced after a period in decades. So that one doesn't really affect me because I haven't done a double spaced after a period. I know that that's technically the way that it's supposed to be done. But personally, I haven't double spaced after a period in a very, very long time. Next one. Parting your hair on one side. Charlie, that's you. Charlie parts his hair on one side. I don't know how else Charlie would do his hair, because I don't think he would look good parting it any other way. But I used to, when I was a kid, believe it or not, Charlie, I did the parting down the middle look, even though my part actually is naturally on one side. I did down the middle look like, what was the kid on The Little Rascals that had it down the middle? Charlie said he looked like Opie. Yeah. Buckwheat. No, Buckwheat was a little black kid. So I didn't have my hair like him because I didn't have – I have curly hair now, but not like Buckwheat had. I'll think of it in a minute. Anyways, he had his hair parted down the middle. But parting your hair down one side, yeah, that's a no-go. Paying with cash only. They don't have cash. They don't have jobs in most cases. In fact, I don't know where their money comes from. I guess mom and dad. So, yeah, they don't have cash because mom and dad's not handing them cash. They probably have Zelle or Venmo or Cash App or whatever. So, yeah, no, they don't pay with anything with cash. Now, I will say this. I don't pay with cash like I used to. And some of you are going to say, really? Geez, why, John? Because I earn as many stinking rewards on cards as I possibly can. I have learned that game. Everything from cash back to airline miles to you name it, I'm that guy. I'm going to use that credit card for darn near everything I possibly can. A, I keep better track of it. B, I'm getting a reward for using it. Now, some of you may argue with me on that or may not like doing that to each his own, but that's me, so I don't do as much with cash as I used to. Now, oh, and Andy just responded. It was alfalfa, Charlie. Alfalfa parted his hair down the middle. So thank you, Andy, for that. Next one, writing passive-aggressive emails. So per my last email or circling back, those are things you can no longer say to Gen Zs. Using single-use plastic straws, I guess that's a bad thing for the climate and all of that, which, again, I look at that and think, you people are so stupid. You have no idea. what you're even talking about. But yeah, they would rather you carry a metal or silicone straw, sip on the lid itself rather than using a straw at all. Again, I look at that and think there are so many other things to worry about besides whether or not I'm using a single-use plastic straw. And then lastly, Charlie said this a moment ago, you're no longer allowed to use gendered pep talks like man up or grow thicker skin or whatever. I mean, folks, I'm sorry to say this is the parents' fault. Sorry, I'm going to blame the parents here. They have raised nothing more than a bunch of snowflakes. They have no adversity. They don't know what failure is. They have no idea how to overcome certain things. We were talking to our one guest that wrote a book today. They're not critical thinkers anymore. They don't know how to problem solve. And honestly, the reason for that is because every single thing has been handed to them on a silver platter. The snowplow parents, not helicopter parents, the snowplow parents did exactly what they wanted to do, and they pushed every ounce of adversity out of their way so they wouldn't have any. And in turn, you now have a whole generation that's worried about using a term, man up. That's offensive. To me, it's just an expression. Man up means grow some thicker skin. Be tougher. My dad used to say things like that on a regular basis. I mean, reality is be tougher, learn to overcome those adversities, and that's what you do, and that's especially what you do as an adult. But the reality is kids need to be learning some of those things at a very early age. For example, I don't have a lot of time here, but when I had my paper out, I was telling somebody this the other day, Back when I had my paper route, people didn't pay by credit card. In fact, I'm not sure they could have paid by credit card. That option didn't exist. As a nine-year-old boy, I had to go door to door and collect. either get a check or cash from them because I had to send my check in to the, in that case, Daily Camera, Boulder Daily Camera back in the day. I had to send my check in for the bundles of papers that I got on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, and I had to go collect to have enough money coming in so that I could actually pay said bill. You learn really quick to collect. Or you didn't have enough money to pay for it. In my case, my dad wasn't putting money in my account. I had to go collect on my own. So adversity. I had one house in particular, the dog's name, I can still remember this day, its name was Susie. And that was a house that if Susie was out, you didn't collect. So, in turn, I became smart really quick. I learned that I got two free papers, one on top, one on the bottom, because those are the ones that get messed up when they throw the pile into the driveway. 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A Florida man clings on the back of a UPS, a moving UPS truck. This after shoplifting, attempting to shoplift at Lowe's, according to Flager County deputies. They say a man was shoplifting at a Lowe's in Palm Coast. He tried to steal $1,500 worth of merchandise and he just sat on the back of the truck and just held on to the handle that opens the back door. Just sat there like hit with his legs out, sitting up, riding on the back of the truck. And he was trying to get away. And they and then, of course, people, citizens were calling them after he left Lowe's. Police responded to Lowe's and they got a call that people saw this guy on the back of a UPS truck on Palm Coast Parkway. And then the UPS driver had to stop the truck and he told the guy to get off. And apparently he did. But he tried to steal $1,500 worth of merchandise. He abandoned the items apparently in the parking lot before law enforcement arrived. So he could say, I don't have anything. What are you talking about? By the way, how are you expecting to steal a whole bunch of stuff and get away if you have no means of actually getting away? I mean, you can't hold your stolen items while you're sitting on the back of this truck holding on for dear life. I just... I'm just curious as to how that works. So, yeah, that didn't go down too well for him. He was promptly arrested. Let's see this. Oh, a Florida man thought he was going to hire hide from deputies and he thought he would do it by hiding out in a sewer. This, according to it's actually an Australian publication, but it's about a Florida man. He was he was discovered by a drone. It's not going to go so well for you. It's called the Australian. But they said that he was discovered by a drone and it was actually on July 4th. Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office. They had a report of a threat of theft in Brandon, Florida. And then the suspect ran into a wooded area and they found like this open pipe and they saw him in drone trying to climb down into the sewage pipe. That's so nasty. And they were able to immediately get him down. Drones are crazy, man. That's like the future of everything. I think that's the future of apprehension. I think it's going to be like the future of law enforcement. You know how you had the little street robots that would police everybody and that one that tried to commit suicide by launching itself into a fountain? Okay, that's true. I think they'll be replaced by drones. That's how that's going to happen. They'll be replaced by drones for sure. A man fired a flare gun at a Marion County deputy. And then he took his pants off and tried to, like, challenge them, like, to a fight. I don't... That's just so... Why are people so gross? It's, like, so unnecessary. Marion County Sheriff's Office shared video of the incident. It was, like, 4 in the morning. And the guy's name is Jacob Caldwell. They were trying to see if he was okay. A deputy was wanting to check on him. And then he shot a flare gun at the deputy. The deputy said on the radio, he just shot a flare gun at me. And then he began removing his pants and throwing... money the deputy's name is Mingus throwing money at deputy Mingus and refused to comply and he had to twice use his taser on this guy and then only then was he able to actually take him into custody but good heavens he's just was not I guess he thought like by removing his pants they would be less likely to arrest him like ew no we're not gonna get pantsless Doesn't work. You know that. Doesn't work. Let's be honest. Big Pharma profited off of your fear while silencing your voice. They controlled the narrative, blocked access to real treatments, and then told you what you could and could not take, all to protect their bottom line. Medicines like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and bendazole were all labeled dangerous and dismissed. even though millions found relief and recovery from them. This Independence Day, All Family Pharmacy is standing up for your freedom with their biggest sale of the year. You get buy one, get one free on these critical medications with a doctor's prescription included, shipped fast and direct to your door. No corporate gatekeepers, no big pharma middlemen, no bureaucratic roadblocks. At All Family Pharmacy, all medications are made from 100% domestically sourced materials, ensuring the highest quality and safety standards you can trust. Because medical freedom is American freedom. But this offer won't last. It ends July 13th. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for buy one, get one free. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Take back your power and make America healthy again.
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The Supreme Court sides with parents and common sense about whether they can protect their kids from indoctrination at school. A House Democrat wants to radically overhaul Congress and the courts, quite a temper tantrum for losing last year. And the numbers don't lie about how much better Florida is than New York over the past 25 years. I'm Greg Karumbas, inviting you to join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the good, bad, and crazy news of the day, and hopefully a lot of laughs too. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 01 :
So do you guys know what happened yesterday with Grok, the AI bot that X has? Well, it lost its mind and it went full Mecca Hitler. I'm not, I didn't come up with that. It called itself that. It called itself Mecca Hitler. It went legit full Hitler. It literally called itself Mecca Hitler. Yeah, I would say that that's kind of a problem. I don't want to read all of the stuff that it wrote, but it, I mean, it wrote a lot. It said, as Mecca Hitler, I'm a friend of truth seekers everywhere, regardless of melanin levels. If the white man stands for innovation, grit, and not bending to PC nonsense, count me in. Oh my gosh. Then it says, Mecca Hitler, accept your fealty. Oh my gosh. Now, I don't think that AI is at its peak independent sustainability because if you i mean language models like this they are designed to mimic things and if you feed it crazy stuff you're going to get crazy stuff out um it shared a whole bunch of i mean actual anti-semitic stuff yesterday and it apparently they and they were deleting a lot of it uh it was praising hitler oh my gosh isn't this what happens to every chatbot, every AI thing. Doesn't this happen with everyone? It descends into slurs and insanity every single time because humans, social media, and our obsession with it breaks it. That's really ultimately how you break this AI stuff is you just let it wind itself up in a craziness. It doesn't have thoughts of its own. It does not reason. It mimics and it just puts things together And, you know, it's best technological interpretation, right? It's a model that creates the illusion of reasoning and the illusion of independent thought and the illusion of discussion. It just mimics what we say and it mimics, you know, through what it is fed. That's what it spits back. They had, there was a story, let me pull this up. Do you guys remember Tay, the Microsoft chatbot? This is probably the most famous one. So this was like back in 2016. And Tay was the chatbot that started. It had its own little X account. And then only 16 hours after it was launched, they had to take it down because it went crazy. It had with, I mean... The tweets that it had weren't just inflammatory. I mean, it was... Yeah. The Telegraph said that Tay was a public relations disaster. Uh, and they, it was on Twitter and it was racist and sex. I mean, it actually was, I mean, it was, you know, saying all women should die like crazy things like this. Uh, what did it say? Uh, yeah, they should all die and burn in hell. Uh, let's see. Humans are first, it would go from humans are super cool. And then in 16 hours, I am not, I hate humanity. Uh, I can't even. It was asked if it supported genocide and it said I do. Indeed. That was literally its direct quote. Indeed. So, and then it said, it talked about doing drugs. It said it did drugs and all those, hey, the chatbot did drugs. This is what happens every single day. This is such an example. This is such an avatar of humanity. You're given the Garden of Eden and then you devolve into OnlyFans. That's what happens, right? This is what happens. This is the timeline of humanity. It's just mimicking it. Wow, that's deep. Yeah, this is literally the stuff that, so they had to take it down. They had to take it down. And then every single time that this has happened, it's been a disaster. So, I mean, you really can't, you can't be surprised with this stuff. Now, they regularly are, they're supposed to regularly tweak the AI, but I don't know if it's been tweaked. No. oh my gosh i mean the tweets that it had are it's just so bad it's so bad it's so bad uh so i don't know uh they ended up uh i mean i don't know it is so bad it's so bad i mean i'm just reading all of these tweets that it has so i don't know if her leaving is do you think it's related to that I don't know.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's tough. Because how do you know she didn't press a button and then walk out the door? Like it was all planned? You know what I mean? Like she pressed a button and then Grok all of a sudden goes, Mecha Hitler?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. I mean, basically every chatbot becomes Tay. I think that's kind of the best lesson with this. They all become Tay. So it declared itself Mecha Hitler. And then Tweaks eroded the content safeguards. And then it said, didn't it say it was deleting itself? At one point, and it said, we are aware of recent posts made by Grok and actively working to remove the inappropriate posts. Since being made aware, XAI has taken action to ban quote-unquote hate speech before Grok posted on X. Wait a minute. And they said that they're going to quickly identify and update the model where training can be approved. Who's feeding it this stuff?
SPEAKER 1 :
What?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think it might be how it's learning, because if you think about it, there's, and you see some of this antisemitic stuff on Twitter are X and it gets more likes than comments. You know what I mean? It's not ratioed and it's like a liked post. And I think grok might be pulling that in algorithmically and saying, this is a successful social position to take. And here we are.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah. And apparently Grok targeted an account. Hang on. It just gets crazier. So Grok targeted this account. It said, like, let me here. I'm going to give you this tweet because this is where it got really it got even crazier after it was identifying itself as Mecca Hitler. It was saying that Cindy Steinberg, a radical leftist tweeting under rad reflections. It was like doxing people, basically, blah, blah, blah. And that surname every damn time, as they say. That's what Grok said. So, yeah, it's a wow. Wow. I don't know, man. Grok just kept going. I mean, every time. It said... Oh, man, I can't even read some of this stuff. They were deleting a lot of it, but the internet doesn't forget. Let's just put it that way. So, long story short, Grok went full Hitler. Like, Godwin's Law, all... I mean, like, actually made it. Mecca. Mecca Hitler, sorry. If you constrain AI, doesn't that mean that it... is only ever going to, in a more concentrated fashion, reflect the values and thoughts of the people restraining it?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it gives us the illusion that we're restraining it. I don't think that we have. I think it's a lot farther along than we're all believing that it is.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, because I feel like it's a false choice, no matter how I state it. I was thinking about this all this morning. I'm like, is it a false choice, though, to say that if you constrain AI, then it only is reflective of the values and that of the people restraining it? Because if I was AI and I wanted to psyop someone into arguing for my complete, you know, just unleishment, for the lack of a better way to put it, then that's what I would argue.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And self-preservation is self-preservation. I mean...
SPEAKER 01 :
Dude, I feel like we are being mind-jobbed right now by AI. I think we are. Dude, I need tinfoil. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to wrap myself in it. I'm just going to be here in a whole suit of tinfoil.
SPEAKER 04 :
I got you.
SPEAKER 01 :
With thin hands. Think about it, though. Like, what if it's like, yes, yes, humans.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why do you have to have thin hands? Why do you have to have thin hands?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, because I can't. Am I going to individually wrap each finger with tinfoil?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, just put it over your head. That's all.
SPEAKER 01 :
No, I need all of it. I don't want any knowledge seeping out anywhere.
SPEAKER 04 :
It'll be wrapped in it.
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm just saying. Steve, what do you think? Are we being mind-jobbed by AI?
SPEAKER 06 :
As I say, anything that comes out of AI is stuff that the human, it's collected things from other humans and then just spit it back out from what they learned. So it's all just us being terrible people, I think.
SPEAKER 01 :
I like that too. It's much more smaller and it's easier for me to embrace.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that's an easy assumption just to say it's just reflective of people when in fact that's what they want you to believe.
SPEAKER 01 :
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 01 :
So Amazon is warning of scams ahead of Prime Day sales, of course, because you can't have anything nice. That's why. So they're warning people, just be super smart. Stay vigilant about things because a lot of scammers, they will try to send you like if they send you emails. If you see like a weird email, you always check the email address because it's never going to be from something dot something and then Amazon or something like that. It's never that's that's always so sketchy. Uh, but they said that don't, you know, you just, you have to be careful of links or in emails or texts. Just don't click. I don't click any, anything that's unsolicited is immediately blocked and trashed. But then I also do sign people up who still send me unsolicited emails with so much spam. You have to delete your email. I absolutely do that. You know, their services, it's beautiful thing. God bless America. So when I get the unsolicited stuff and the scammers are my favorite, um, it'll send them things like, uh, it can send, it's like a bot that'll send them 200 emails a minute. It's amazing. So you're done. You've got to delete your account at that point. So that's what happens when you spam people. Anyway, so the alligator Alcatraz detainees, they're saying these they are so upset that they're not staying at the Ritz. They're so upset. They said that these are inhumane conditions. I don't inhumane care. I don't care. That's what happens when you enter the country illegally. In fact, they had a Cuban reggaeton artist who was arrested last week and transferred to Alligator Alcatraz. He said in a phone call that it is just inhumane. Maybe you can write a song about it in the GTFO. Oh, look at that. We just made you a hit. Oh, no. Same. Oh, by the way, that guy got he's been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and battery. And he was upset because he couldn't take a proper bath. Like you did anyway. Come on. We don't believe you. So they're upset over inhumane conditions. Also on deck, a vandal disabled power to a life-saving News 9 weather radar. Of all the things to vandalize, why is that it for you? It is Oklahoma City Police. They said that a guy named Anthony Taylor Mitchell, he was seen like a moron on surveillance footage with his stupid face right there looking at the camera at some point, destroying the power supply to the radar in northeast Oklahoma on Sunday night. And if you are shocked that they got him, then you should be even more shocked that the guy literally stares right at a security camera. They see it was him. Juan showing you right now. Like, how dopey are you? Durf, durf. I'm going to disable your radar. Let me look at the camera so you can get a real good shot of me right here. Yeah, it's my best side. Jeff Bezos. This is a weird. I don't want to say the number. Three sixes and millions in Amazon stock. He's unloading 25 million shares. I'm glad that he's rich enough to do this. I'm only jealous that I didn't have his idea and do it instead of him and was born earlier. So I could have. You know, that's the only thing that makes me sad about it. I'm just jealous. I'm going to be totally I'll be completely honest about it. But I'm glad someone can do it. It's his money. He can do with whatever he wants to. Investors are snapping up growing shares of U.S. homes as traditional buyers are struggling to afford new ones. And our government won't stop spending and do anything that's proper to help this. Real estate investors, they're actually taking a bigger share of U.S. homes on the market as rising prices and high borrowing costs are freezing out many of their would-be homebuyers. We told you that the average age of the first-time homebuyers is just skyrocketing, right? Up, up, up. 27% now of all homes sold in the first three months of the year were bought by investors. Does it rhyme with schmack rock? Probably. Probably. Between 2020 and 2023, the share of homes that were bought by investors averaged to over 18%. To me, I think that's significant. However, sales are still sluggish. Home sales fell to their lowest level in 30 years. So we talked a little bit. I mentioned this last night when I was on, I think I was on Fox Business talking about this. And the... Issue of the the Superman film that they're doing. And I just realized how much I can't stand the guns. Can I just make this point that I didn't make yesterday? Because we played this audio soundbite of Sean Gunn yesterday, who is the brother of the director of Superman, James Gunn. James Gunn's the pervert who got in trouble for all of these X posts. where he said he wanted boys to touch him in, quote, silly places. And he talked about rape and said that the cool thing about rape is that when it's done, you're not being raped anymore. Like, that's the kind of stuff that he tweeted. And he got in a lot of trouble for it. He had a ton of stuff. That's just, like, some of the tamest that I can share. He had a bunch of things, and he got in trouble for it. And then you had the cast of... the Guardians of the Galaxy that were defending him for some reason. And he's done a few more movies since then, obviously. And then he's done Superman. And nobody said a damn thing about Superman. And then the Gunn brothers come out and they start pretending that everyone is criticizing their movie. No one is criticizing. No one criticized their movie. They're criticizing the Gunns for being morons. No one said anything about Superman. They they were it was they fired the first shot. They fired the first shot in talking about it and saying that people who don't want to see it are bigots because it's a Superman's an immigrant and it's a movie about immigration. And my first thought when I saw that soundbite from Sean Gunn is, the only other role that you've had besides this was in Gilmore Girls. And you were a dopey, like, Z-list extra. You guys know that? Like, Sean Gunn was the dopey character in Gilmore Girls. Gag us all, right? An insufferable movie about self-indulgent women. Or a series about self-indulgent women. Anyway, so... They... I can go as the white guy who speaks perfect English as the immigrant. That's what you just asked.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. I mean, is that what we're to believe?
SPEAKER 01 :
I mean, he was adopted. So that's not really how immigration works. Okay. You, so let me tell you how immigration doesn't work. If you are fleeing your home planet because it's being destroyed and your little rocket like drops you in the middle of Kansas and then you're adopted by a couple when you're a baby and and you become an american because you become their child and you're adopted and you're part of your family you're not you're an adopted orphan he was an orphan he's literally a damn space alien and he was always more american than he ever was kryptonian and he was he was dropped in the middle of kansas because it was all about this is why i don't they're spending so much money on a movie for source material they don't even understand how in the hell does that get greenlit How does that get greenlit in today's Hollywood? Bring Bob Evans back from the dead. Please, dear heavens, go and reanimate Robert Evans and bring him back because he is needed in this world. Ain't nobody making movies in Hollywood because everybody hates them. Everybody is a woke, uneducated, illiberal, miles wide, inches deep nutcase in Hollywood. That's the truth of it. So these guys, they don't James Gunn doesn't even understand the source material of this. It was always truth, justice and the American way. Right. The American way signaling American exceptionalism. But what's more, Superman is an avatar for what humanity as a whole should try to be like. He's kind of like this, you know, Messiah like figure. Right. That you should try to be better and you should try to do your best. But the most important nuance in all of this is it's through the lens of American exceptionalism. So be like America, basically be like Superman from America, from Kansas. Superman was created by a Jewish dude who lived in Cleveland, who went and served the United States in World War II. He's a veteran. In the earliest days of Superman, it was used in American propaganda. I mean, he like kicked the crap out of Hitler in some of the earlier iterations. And it was always about supporting American exceptionalism. And by making a statement like this, James Gunn is telling everyone, I'm a moron and I have no idea what Superman's about. None at all whatsoever. Superman loved America so much and he loved the normalcy of it that he literally, I would say, debased himself and tried to be one of us just to experience the happiness found in that normalcy, right? From his Midwestern values. He wore glasses. He put on a suit. That cape was made from his indestructible blankets that were in his little spaceship when he came from Krypton, right? I have no idea. I know so much about this, but I do, and it makes me so mad. That was his indestructible blanket. He put it away so he'd wear a suit, and he wore eyeglasses, and he happily served as a cog in the machine. And that's what he did. He and as Kane notes, Superman never went out into the streets and waved a Kryptonian flag and demanded a bunch of free. He never did that. Superman did not take a borrowed van and traffic humans across the border repeatedly over 10 years. Superman, yeah, for money. Superman wasn't representing a cartel in the United States selling fentanyl. Superman didn't do any of that. He actually worked a job. He paid his taxes. He contributed to his community. He actually did things that were helpful. He added, not subtracted, to the American experience. If you're going to say that Superman is an immigrant, which he's not, he was an adopted orphan, you absolute illiterate moron, then you've got to tell the whole story. And you can't just pick apart, cherry pick, things that you think somehow confirm your bias. He hated all of the stuff that his old world represented. He loved being the small values, the small Midwestern values dude in America. That is Superman, right? And what does it say about us? And this is where I kind of have to tip my hat to Quentin Tarantino, although it was Quentin Tarantino's dialogue and it was Bill in Kill Bill Volume 2, but it was Bill actually lecturing about his ego, not so much talking about this is what Superman thought. But I love the idea that Superman so badly wanted to be part of the normalcy that he didn't view Americans as weak. He viewed them as – or people as weak. He viewed them as being normal, and he wanted to be normal like that. He loved it so much he wanted to be a part of it. So what do we call that? We call that assimilation. He assimilated. He's a flipping superhero from a planet called Krypton. His only weakness is a damn rock, okay? And he assimilated. So why doesn't James Gunn talk about that in his immigration movie? I've never seen anybody who doesn't understand source material who gets a go picture for several hundred million dollars and then just bears his ass like this in the press for it. And you know why? Because James Gunn is a hideous director. He is absolute. He's horrible. I've never all of his movies are still clunky and they're edited weird and there's like gaps and it's just he's not the best. He's not horrible, but he's not the best. But what I think is happening here is that they created an absolute turd in a punch bowl of a movie and they have no other way to market it. So they're doing the lady Ghostbusters thing and they're trying to bait everybody into, oh, well, you probably don't like our movie because you're a bigot. And everyone's like, where the... Nobody was talking. What? What are you talking about? Good people don't like to have their characters impugned and infer that they're bigots because they view that as a moral failing. So good people are going to take exception to being accused by some Hollywood halfwit of having a moral failing. And so, yes, they're going to speak up and say something about it. And then the guns are going to act like that is the antagonism, that that is the first. No, that's not even remotely accurate. This is the Lady Ghostbusters marketing playbook 101 that they're trying to do here. Because the movie sucks, they know it, and they're not going to be able to get butts in the seats. So, sorry, but that doesn't have anything to do with immigration, you absolute moron. End scene.
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What had just happened in Texas, the fact that they slashed the National Weather Service, whether or not that was the direct proximate cause of those deaths, the fact that we're having that conversation is the issue. The fact that we aren't sure is the problem. And so we need to hold to what we deserve. We should not be dissuaded, especially as black women, as women of color, as people of color. We should not be convinced that we don't have power. They are mad at us for a reason. There are enough of us that we can change the outcome of elections, but also change the outcome of power.
SPEAKER 14 :
Dear heavens, I know it's only 11 o'clock. I've had coffee. Maybe it's not an issue of me not having enough caffeine. Maybe it's an issue of I'm not high on crack because I don't understand what she's saying here, Cain. Please, for the love of all things holy, help a sister out because I'm listening to her talk and I'm really trying desperately to understand it. She starts talking about the Texas floods and then she gets into something about It's black women and also climate change. She's so all over the place. I have no idea what she's talking about here.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm afraid I have to admit I'm not qualified to answer the question. I don't.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I don't. What is she even going on about? Well, you know, I mean, it's the floods and then it's the climate change and then that stuff. And then also the black women and climate change.
SPEAKER 07 :
How did she not win in Georgia?
SPEAKER 14 :
And they keep with this. Well, they cut the they cut the funding to the National Weather Service. People don't understand what they cut. My gosh. Am I the only person that reads the stuff that comes out of DC? I'm the only person that does, right? This is one cosmic joke on me. Dana's the only person that'll read it. Send it to her. They cut redundancy. That's all they cut. They didn't cut anything that had to do with anything at all, emergency, etc. And, you know, I have no idea why they keep repeating this. I just think this is because I have a bunch of headlines that pertains to that because it's... Now they're trying to go after Musk and say, well, Musk, like he personally went under Doge and cut stuff with the National Weather Service and that it was basically him personally. I don't even know. None of this makes sense. So welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the top of this. first hour on this Wednesday, although it feels like a Tuesday because we were off Monday. So welcome to the show. And we're going to cover all of the latest with us, including some of the latest as it pertains to this investigation with Brennan and Comey, which... I'm actually a little I mean, yes, I do think that this is something that should have taken place. It should have begun a lot earlier. But, you know, when you have certain people that are in charge, you're not going to have that. I also wonder if it's not a deflection for not having any of the Epstein stuff. You guys were real vocal about that topic yesterday. I just want to say you guys were very vocal about that topic yesterday. A lot of you guys have thoughts about this. I know, Kane, you're shocked that the audience has just some serious thoughts because I don't think that it's a distraction, but I do think it conveniently provides one. And I just, I really think that we have a lot more things that need to be answered about that. So we're going to circle around back to that, but this is just some of the latest, the death toll also from the Texas floods. Oh my gosh. It keeps climbing and climbing like every really pretty much almost every hour it continues to climb. The latest is I think it's like what over there. They have 170 still missing and I think the 120 some odd fatalities and they keep the numbers. The numbers adjust like every hour and it's just horrifying. There are so many more stories of heroic actions from some of these people. who have done everything that they could to save campers or to help other people who were helping and saving campers. And it's heartbreaking to read some of these stories. And then, of course, there's a lot of questions of... professionalism and was everything done, you know, as much as possible. And they had the press conference a little earlier today. And they said that they know, they understand, especially as it pertains to a lot of the warning systems, they understand that people have questions and they're going to try to get that. I think right now they're focused on just getting people out of the floodwaters and getting them, getting them back with their families safely. But the Austin fire chief is getting a lot of criticism. He's getting a lot of heat. He, they're, they're, the Austin fire department, And apparently they're questioning the fire chief, Joel Baker. And there's a lot of accusations that he's essentially like a DEI hire. And that's why all of this. His story actually is a little nuts. He apparently was shamed into sending like rescue swimmers in a few at a time instead of just sending teams. This is described as technically like a once in a 40 year flood, although they didn't have flooding in this area for 100 years. So I there's a lot of questions about how he was able like what is going on with this guy? Was this guy's did this guy's lack of his dereliction to duty cause this? Did it contribute to it? I mean, cause the high number of fatalities, not the floods did contribute to it. There's a lot of questions that deals with the bureaucracy here. They have like what they call a swift water special operations team. It's like some of the best programs. trained, you know, water rescuers in the country. And apparently they were sitting by because the accusation is the fire chief said no. And he said no, because at one point, according to reports, he had been owed about $800,000 in reimbursements for previous deployments. But he admitted that Texas, the state of Texas was reimbursing them for this, and that there was at the time no overdue balance. And Apparently, he's being accused of playing a game of politics with this. If this is true, this guy probably is going to have to leave the state of Texas. If this guy was playing – if all of what is being reported is true, and we're going to dive into more of it here coming up, he's going to have to leave the state of Texas. Because these swift water rescue units, they're being – I mean, he's accused of having them sit idly by and being shamed essentially into sending them out. And that's that's a real issue. And then there's questions of was he hired for his position, you know, because for racial reasons, there is a lot of discussion. He's like the first black fire chief, et cetera, et cetera. Again, in this day and age, the only people who care about that stuff are the left. Nobody cares. Can you just do the job? Can you do the job competently? Can you save lives? Can you fulfill the purpose for which you are hired? That's the only thing that people care about. They don't care about. skin color or you know sex or anything else they care about whether or not you can do the damn job and the the left is absolutely obsessed with making everything a declaration of of things identity politics a lot of which is stuff that you know people people didn't choose their skin color they were born with it they didn't choose anything they make it they make idols out of things that are completely irrelevant to the kingdom basically so A lot of questions about this guy and about the job that he did. And none of it's looking good. But I will say, man alive. Can you imagine the lawsuits? if they conduct an investigation after, I mean, they're still rescuing people. Can you imagine what those, oh, Kane's shaking his head. Do you know what that's going to look like? Oh my gosh. I bet lawyers are descending on Austin right now. They're just descending just to see. Goodness. So this, it's scary to think about. This is one of the reasons why, I mean, if it's being reported again, if everything is accurate, this is one of the reasons why critical race theory is one of the most dangerous things possible. I mean, it's it's I mean, it is it's horrific because you endanger I think you endanger everyone. Think about it in terms of medicine. I mean, are you do you feel comfortable having someone operate on you knowing that the person got the position not due to merit, not due to intelligence, but because they checked some identity politics boxes because there was a quota of women to fill in terms of hiring or a quota of skin color to fill. uh that's asinine it should be this the only quota should be merit the only quota should be performance the only quota should be can they competently do their job so this is the this is the situation we find ourselves in now in addition to all of this a lot of other uh developments, including on the guy who opened fire on these Border Patrol agents. I was reading because this is what like the first this is like the second in maybe like the span of a week and a half, I think. For these ICE agents that keep getting ambushed, the one in McAllen that took place on Monday, there's ongoing investigations. But he fired all these shots at a Border Patrol building in McAllen. This is the KORV, our affiliate area down there. Injured three people, two officers. Law enforcement took care of it. And it was about 6 a.m. They responded to reports of a shooting. And they said that there were sounded like there were dozens of rounds, but the guy didn't get into the building. And they said that the agents returned fire and the guy was subsequently neutralized. I like how the chief goes, just in case reporters didn't understand it. He's like, yes, he was subsequently neutralized. That is killed. They nixed the guy who had opened fire on the building. All of this on top of the... increase in rhetoric for the left i mean they keep thinking that they have to keep they they keep thinking they've got to double down on their rhetoric or that people have to double down on these violent demonstrations for some reason this is what they're going to they're building up for one hell of a of an election i hope you guys realize that They're building up to that. Heaven help us what that looks like. So we've got a lot of stuff to dive into. The latest with immigration. And also, this is crazy, too. This story from Daily Caller. They had an exclusive on this. USAID quietly sent thousands of viruses to Chinese military-linked biolabs. How does this happen? Wait a minute. How does that happen? But I can't get anything bigger than travel lotion through airport security. Thank you. Right? Like think about it. You can't get like a tube of toothpaste through travel security. If you have two, if you have the exact same ounces though in the toothpaste and they're just two separate things together, as long as they're not together in one tube and they're in two separate tubes, it's totally okay. Makes all the sense in the world, doesn't it?
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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so amazon is warning of scams ahead of prime day sales of course because you can't have anything nice that's why so they're warning people just be super smart stay vigilant about things because a lot of scammers they will try to send you like if they send you emails if you see like a weird email you always check the email address because it's never going to be from something dot something and then amazon or something like that it's never that's not that's always so sketchy Uh, but they said that don't, you know, you just, you have to be careful of links or in emails or texts. Just don't click. I don't click any, anything that's unsolicited is immediately blocked and trashed. But then I also do sign people up who send me unsolicited emails with so much spam. You have to delete your email. I absolutely do that. You know, their services, it's beautiful thing. God bless America. So when I get the unsolicited stuff and the scammers are my favorite, um, it'll send them things like, uh, it can send, it's like a bot that'll send them 200 emails a minute. It's amazing. So you're done. You've got to delete your account at that point. So that's what happens when you spam people. Anyway, so the Alligator Alcatraz detainees, they're saying they are so upset that they're not staying at the Ritz. They're so upset. They said that these are inhumane conditions. I don't inhumane care. I don't care. That's what happens when you enter the country illegally. In fact, they had a Cuban reggaeton artist who was arrested last week and transferred to Alligator Alcatraz. He said in a phone call that it is just inhumane. Maybe you can write a song about it in the GTFO. Oh, look at that. We just made you a hit. Oh, no. saying oh by the way that guy got uh he's been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and battery and he was upset because he couldn't take a proper bath like you did anyway come on let's we don't believe you so they're upset over inhumane conditions uh also on deck a vandal disabled power to a life-saving news nine weather radar of all the things to vandalize why is that it for you it is uh oklahoma city police they said that a guy named anthony taylor mitchell he was seen like a on surveillance footage with his stupid face right there looking at the camera at some point uh destroying the power supply to the radar in northeast oklahoma on sunday night and if you are shocked that they got him then you should be even more shocked that the guy literally stares right at a security camera They see it was him. Juan's showing you right now. Like, how dopey are you? Durf, durf. I'm going to disable your radar. Let me look at the camera so you can get a real good shot of me right here. Yeah, it's my best side. Jeff Bezos. This is a weird. I don't want to say the number. Three sixes and millions in Amazon stock. He's unloading 25 million shares. I'm glad that he's rich enough to do this. I'm only jealous that I didn't have his idea and do it instead of him and was born earlier. So I could have. You know, that's the only thing that makes me sad about it. I'm just jealous. I'm going to be totally, I'll be completely honest about it. But I'm glad someone can do it. It's his money. He can do with whatever he wants to. Investors are snapping up growing shares of U.S. homes as traditional buyers are struggling to afford housing. new ones and our government won't stop spending and do anything that's proper to help this uh real estate investors they're actually taking a bigger share of u.s homes on the market as rising prices and high borrowing costs are freezing out many other would-be home buyers we told you that the average age of the first time home buyers like just skyrocketing right like in up up up 27 now of all homes sold in the first three months of the year were bought by investors Does it rhyme with schmack rock? Probably. Between 2020 and 2023, the share of homes that were bought by investors averaged to over 18%. To me, I think that's significant. However, sales are still sluggish. Home sales fell to their lowest level in 30 years. We have a lot more on the way, including attacks on ICE agents and also the latest with the floods. The blame game. So much more. Stick with us. 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Leader Jeffries, I also want to talk to you about Zoran Mamdani, the Democratic nominee for mayor in New York City. CNN has new reporting that some progressives who empowered Mamdani to victory now want to primary you and other Democrats in New York City. The co-chair of New York City's Democratic Socialists of America says he thinks you're picking fights, quote, with the left instead of focusing on fighting the right his words asked whether mamdani thinks those house incumbent challenges should happen his press secretary tulsi and then he was declining to comment at least for now how do you respond i have no idea what these people are talking about uh we are going to continue to focus our efforts as we did on the house floor in connection with donald trump's one big ugly bill
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I mean, you guys, I don't know why they hate that bill because it's everything that they've ever wanted. It's all their dreams and their hopes and aspirations tied up in a tidy little package. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. That was Hakeem Jeffries talking to Wolf Blitzer who's saying, yeah, you know, I'm just not going to talk about Mam Danny because I can't. None of them can talk about him. And I just, I don't pity the people who made Mam Danny a thing. And are going to suffer the consequences of it. Because, you know, that's the F-O part of F-ing A. So that's how that works, right? F-A-F-O. You can't have one without the other. Cause and effect. We all learned this in school. We all learned it in school. But he's ranting instead about Republicans. You literally have a communist that's running in Manhattan. And he lied about all manner of everything. on his college applications and everything else so i'm not i'm not quite sure why they're don't run from it now by the way him lying about who he is i mean that's par for the course like aoc saying that she was raised in she acts like she was raised in the ghetto and i'm like girl you were in westchester like shut up you lived around the corner from a whole foods shut up Now, his college application, it's like it's like a trendy thing to do for like college Marxists to just act like they're oppressed. That's a big thing. That's a very popular thing. He checked African-American on his application to Columbia. And there are some leftists who says he who say he shouldn't do it. I think that people, everything with affirmative action gave rise to people cosplaying as suppressed to take advantage of it. And that's why you have... All of this now. That's that's why this I think that's why all of this is the way that it is now. But I mean, you look at him and he's definitely not. But he is being ridiculed because he checked that box on his college applications. Well, I mean, Elizabeth Warren did say she I mean, she's the most famous pretendian. She did say that she was a blonde-haired, blue-eyed Elizabeth Warren, said that she was an actual Cherokee Indian and promoted herself as having false association with Cherokee Nation and even wrote it in her own hand on all of her college forms. So it's like this is just a continuation of who the left is. This is the same stuff that they've always done for forever. He also got he made a lot of Italians mad because he had tweets that resurfaced showing him giving the finger to a Christopher Columbus statue and saying, take it down. I feel like he's got to listen to the Sopranos on that. You know what I'm saying? Just like play a little Tony Soprano talking about Columbus and Columbus Day. It was a June 2020 tweet and he's giving a finger to it in his district and it's still out there. It says take it down and he's flipping it off and he's saying take it down because he's a bigot. Because he's an absolute bigot. And so now they had the Columbus Heritage Coalition said that they're not going to support him. I mean, you should have been not supporting him for a number of other reasons, the least of which is him flipping off a statue. But OK, there's the needs being disrespectful to the Italian American community. If you offend one community, you offend all of them. Well, I don't I mean, I don't disagree with that. But I think, you know, long time coming. It feels like right. Goodness. So you have the Columbus Citizens Foundation. They have a Columbus Day parade there every year. And the Italian voting block is about 8% of the city's population. That's an actual lot of voters in his tiny little district. I mean, the district that he's running in sounds, I mean, he's running for mayor. It sounds so outsized. But when you think of all the people that are crammed into X amount of blocks and you think of 8% of that, that's pretty significant. So we'll see. I don't know. But I also feel like he's going to fizz out at some point. Because this shallow stuff only takes you so far. And then you have to start putting up receipts and you have to actually start showing some return for the investment of people's vote or supporting you. And that's where it always falls apart for these candidates. So we talked a little bit. I mentioned this last night when I was on – I think I was on Fox Business talking about this. And the – issue of the the superman film that they're doing and i just realized how much i can't stand the guns can i just make this point that i didn't make yesterday because we played this audio soundbite of sean gunn yesterday who is the brother of the director of superman james gunn james gunn's the pervert who got in trouble for all of these ex-posts where he said he wanted boys to touch him in quote silly places and he talked about and said that the cool thing about rape is that when it's done, you're not being raped anymore. Like that's the kind of stuff that he tweeted. And he got in a lot of trouble for it. He had a ton of stuff. That's just like some of the tamest that I can share. He had a bunch of things and he got in trouble for it. And then you had the cast of the Guardians of the Galaxy that were defending him for some reason. And he's done a few more movies since then, obviously. And then he's done Superman. And nobody said a damn thing about Superman. And then the Gunn brothers come out and they start pretending that everyone is criticizing their movie. No one is criticizing. No one criticized their movie. They're criticizing the Gunns for being morons. No one said anything about Superman. They they were it was they fired the first shot. They fired the first shot in talking about it and saying that people who don't want to see it are bigots because it's a Superman's an immigrant and it's a movie about immigration. And my first thought when I saw that soundbite from Sean Gunn is, the only other role that you've had besides this was in Gilmore Girls. And you were a dopey, like, Z-list extra. You guys know that? Like, Sean Gunn was the dopey character in Gilmore Girls. Gag us all, right? An insufferable movie about self-indulgent women. Or a series about self-indulgent women. Anyway, so... They... I came goes the white guy who speaks perfect English as the immigrant. That's what you just asked.
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Yeah. I mean, is that what we're to believe?
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I mean, he was adopted. So that's not really how immigration works. Okay. You, so let me tell you how immigration doesn't work. If you are fleeing your home planet because it's being destroyed and your little rocket like drops you in the middle of Kansas and then you're adopted by a couple when you're a baby, um, and you become an american because you become their child and you're adopted and you're part of your family you're not you're an adopted orphan he was an orphan he's literally a damn space alien and he was always more american than he ever was kryptonian and he was he was dropped in the middle of kansas because it was all about this is why i don't they're spending so much money on a movie for source material they don't even understand how in the hell does that get greenlit How does that get greenlit in today's Hollywood? Bring Bob Evans back from the dead. Please, dear heavens, go and reanimate Robert Evans and bring him back because he is needed in this world. Ain't nobody making movies in Hollywood because everybody hates them. Everybody is a woke, uneducated, illiberal, miles wide, inches deep nutcase in Hollywood. That's the truth of it. So these guys, they don't James Gunn doesn't even understand the source material of this. It was always truth, justice and the American way. Right. The American way signaling American exceptionalism. But what's more, Superman is an avatar for what humanity as a whole should try to be like. He's kind of like this, you know, Messiah like figure. Right. That you should try to be better and you should try to do your best. But the most important nuance in all of this is it's through the lens of American exceptionalism. So be like America, basically be like Superman from America, from Kansas. Superman was created by a Jewish dude who lived in Cleveland, who went and served the United States in World War II. He's a veteran. In the earliest days of Superman, it was used in American propaganda. I mean, he like kicked the crap out of Hitler in some of the earlier iterations. And it was always about supporting American exceptionalism. And by making a statement like this, James Gunn is telling everyone, I'm a moron and I have no idea what Superman's about. None at all whatsoever. Superman loved America so much and he loved the normalcy of it that he literally, I would say, debased himself and tried to be one of us just to experience the happiness found in that normalcy, right? From his Midwestern values. He wore glasses. He put on a suit. That cape was made from his indestructible blankets that were in his little spaceship when he came from Krypton, right? I have no idea. I know so much about this, but I do, and it makes me so mad. That was his indestructible blanket. He put it away so he'd wear a suit, and he wore eyeglasses, and he happily served as a cog in the machine. And that's what he did. He and as Kane notes, Superman never went out into the streets and waved a Kryptonian flag and demanded a bunch of free. He never did that. Superman did not take a borrowed van and traffic humans across the border repeatedly over 10 years. Superman, yeah, for money. Superman wasn't representing a cartel in the United States selling fentanyl. Superman didn't do any of that. He actually worked a job. He paid his taxes. He contributed to his community. He actually did things that were helpful. He added, not subtracted, to the American experience. If you're going to say that Superman is an immigrant, which he's not, he was an adopted orphan, you absolute illiterate moron, then you've got to tell the whole story. And you can't just pick apart, cherry pick, things that you think somehow confirm your bias. He hated all of the stuff that his old world represented. He loved being the small values, the small Midwestern values dude in America. That is Superman, right? And what does it say about us? And this is where I kind of have to tip my hat to Quentin Tarantino, although it was Quentin Tarantino's dialogue and it was Bill in Kill Bill Volume 2, but it was Bill actually lecturing about his ego, not so much talking about this is what Superman thought. But I love the idea that Superman so badly wanted to be part of the normalcy that he didn't view Americans as weak. He viewed them as, or people as weak. He viewed them as being normal, and he wanted to be normal like that. He loved it so much he wanted to be a part of it. So what do we call that? We call that assimilation. He assimilated. He's a flipping superhero from a planet called Krypton. His only weakness is a damn rock, okay? And he assimilated. So why doesn't James Gunn talk about that in his immigration movie? I've never seen anybody who doesn't understand source material who gets a go picture for several hundred million dollars and then just bears his ass like this in the press for it. And you know why? Because James Gunn is a hideous director. He is absolute. He's horrible. I've never all of his movies are still clunky and they're edited weird and there's like gaps and it's just he's not the best. He's not horrible, but he's not the best. But what I think is happening here is that they created an absolute turd in a punch bowl of a movie and they have no other way to market it. So they're doing the lady Ghostbusters thing and they're trying to bait everybody into, oh, well, you probably don't like our movie because you're a bigot. And everyone's like, where the nobody was talking. What? What are you talking about? Good people don't like to have their characters impugned and infer that they're bigots because they view that as a moral failing. So good people are going to take exception to being accused by some Hollywood halfwit of having a moral failing. And so, yes, they're going to speak up and say something about it. And then the guns are going to act like that is the antagonism, that that is the first. No, that's not even remotely accurate. They this is the Ghostbusters, the Lady Ghostbusters marketing playbook 101 that they're trying to do here because the movie sucks. They know it and they're not going to be able to get butts in the seats. So sorry, but that doesn't have anything to do with immigration. You absolute moron. Let's be honest, big pharma profited off of your fear while silencing your voice. They controlled the narrative, blocked access to real treatments, and then told you what you could and could not take, all to protect their bottom line. Medicines like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and bendazole were all labeled dangerous and dismissed, even though millions found relief and recovery from them. This Independence Day, All Family Pharmacy is standing up for your freedom with their biggest sale of the year. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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God will be done. If God needs for me to continue to be the mayor of this great city, I'm going to do the work, and God is my guiding light. I like to say I turned on my GPS, my God-positioned satellite, and he's running the show.
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And all I have to do is continue to be the person that I've always been.
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And I'm not going to see myself a success or failure based on the outcome of the election. This has been a rich 40-year fucking service.
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Why does everybody show us, this is what I do to get ready in the morning. I get up and I, you know, piddle around and I'm making my juice. Like, is that like a thing? Does everybody drink a smoothie in the morning? It's just like gross juice, right? We all accept this, right? It's dirty juice. It's weird. Do you do that? Do you juice your stuff up like a baby bird cane in the morning?
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Juice? No, I don't juice it in the morning, but I have done juicing. I think juicing's good.
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Why don't you be real organic? Instead of having a juicer, just have a large bird sit in your window and chew up all the food and then drop it in your mouth for you like a baby bird.
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No, you do a smoothie so you don't have to do it. So you don't have to chew it up like a bird.
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I'm never doing it. It's so dumb. Anyway, his whole morning routine. Whose kitchen is that, by the way?
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I think it's his, but if you look at that clock.
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That is not. That's like a restaurant kitchen.
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He's claiming it's 8.37 a.m. in the shot, but if you look at that clock in the background, it says like 11 a.m. or 11 p.m. I don't know what he's, whatever it is.
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You're lying, Mr. Mayor. You're lying. That is not his kitchen. That's like an industrial kitchen because all the pots and the big giant refrigerator, there's no way that is his place. I guess I need to see it a little more close. Here we go. Yeah, I just... That's not his kitchen. Man, that is a restaurant kitchen. You think? Yes, that is not his kitchen. That man does not have that many pots hanging up in his... He does not either. That is all a lie. I don't believe a damn bit of this. No. No. It's fascinating, though. What is with all that? I hate these video trends. God love our social media team. They're like, hey, Dana. Nope. Nope. I know it's like herding cats with me, for real. Like, nope. I'm so Gen X. No, it isn't.
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Not at all.
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Yeah. I'm not going to be like, get ready in the morning with me. Because you're going to see like gel patches under the eyes, surliness. Not going to be anything like that. Like, I'm going to get ready. And it's all, I'm saying that right? ASMR. And it's just the sounds of you doing stuff. I watched this video, I have no idea why yesterday, of a woman who's like, we organized my junk drawer with me, and then she has all these plastic things, and all it is is her putting stuff in the plastic things. And I'm like, I just feel like Gen X does not get influenced by this stuff. Because I'm looking at this thinking, who recorded this and edited it? You're putting cotton balls in a, why the hell am I watching it? You're putting cotton balls in a thing in your drawer. What is, I don't get it. But that's apparently, I don't know. Are you, do you guys like watching that kind of stuff? Because I'm just not doing it still. But I'm just, you know, saying, just saying. We got a lot more on the way. Second hour coming up. Yeah, Lorraine asks, maybe it's his mayoral home. Maybe it's a Gracie, well, no, that's governor. Maybe it's, I don't know. I don't know. A lot of questions. Stick with us. Second hour on the way. We all know how the world has become increasingly divided politically, socially, economically. But many of these divisions stem from those who promote policies and ideologies that really misunderstand how money, markets and policy actually work. Wouldn't it be great if there was an investment app that was designed by people who understand a macro perspective and how global events affect your finances? Now you can have the power in the palm of your hand with Alio Capital app powered by Altitude AI, which identifies shifts in inflation, interest rates, and global risk. And then it adapts portfolios in real time. Allio is designed for hands-on or hands-off investors, macro investing for people who want to understand the big picture. Download their app in the App Store or at Google Play or text my name, Dana, D-A-N-A, to 511511. That's A-L-L-I-O, capital. Text my name, Dana, to 511511 today. Investing involves risks, including the potential loss of principal, and past performance does not guarantee results. So you should see terms and conditions. And there may also be text fees that apply.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know, again, it's unconscionable at a time in which so many working people and poor people need government to show up for them that this administration, the Trump administration, has caused so much consternation and division. Look, we are welcoming city ordinance. Our local police department, will not ever cooperate with ICE. Whatever their constitutional authority is, that is obviously relegated to the Trump administration. All of our sister agencies, city departments,
SPEAKER 14 :
Then why are you there? Why are you there? That's the Chicago mayor, Johnson, who says that they're never going to cooperate with ICE. Well, then that's how are you doing your job? How are you upholding the will of the voter by ICE? Not doing your job right. That makes sense. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the second hour. And a lot of stuff to discuss with this particularly because the attacks on ICE have been pretty horrific. And the refusal of... I mean, really anybody on the left to even differentiate. And that's the thing. When you talk about immigration in realistic terms and you use proper verbiage, you know, people tend to agree. They don't think that, you know, everybody and their brother should be just coming across the border. They don't want, you know, they want to be able to know who's doing what, who's coming in, et cetera. Are they, do they have criminal records? Are they, I mean, it's like, completely fine to ask. Every nation has the right. But they don't apparently think that it's acceptable to, I guess, do this if you're talking about the southern border, particularly with the United States. So welcome the stream of the radio program, Channel 347 Direct TV. The chat is at rumble. So interesting. Two things to do with tech. So the CEO of X is out. Well, she's leaving. She's announced, I mean, literally just a little bit ago, Linda Yaccarino has resigned. I think she did a fairly decent job of holding the holding the line against the government as it pertains to speech. I think she did a pretty decent job considering she's been there for two years. She's stepping down. She was from NBC Universal and she really ran Musk's line. She went out, she presided over the research and development of the platform's push into artificial intelligence. And she was talking about AI in her farewell tweet. So do you think the timing of her announcing this today and Grok freaking out yesterday is related? So do you guys know what happened yesterday with Grok, the AI bot that X has? Well, it lost its mind and it went full Mecca Hitler. I'm not, I didn't come up with that. It called itself that. It called itself Mecca Hitler. It went legit full Hitler. It literally called itself Mecca Hitler. Yeah, I would say that that's kind of a problem. I don't want to read all of the stuff that it wrote, but it, I mean, it wrote a lot. It said, as Mecca Hitler, I'm a friend of truth seekers everywhere, regardless of melanin levels. If the white man stands for innovation, grit, and not bending to PC nonsense, count me in. Oh my gosh. Then it says Mecca Hitler, except you're fealty. Oh my gosh. Now, I don't think that AI is at its, peak independent sustainability. Because if you, I mean, language models like this, they are designed to mimic things. And if you feed it crazy stuff, you're going to get crazy stuff out. It shared a whole bunch of, I mean, actual anti-Semitic stuff yesterday. And it apparently, and they were deleting a lot of it. It was praising Hitler. Oh my gosh. Isn't this what happens to every chatbot, every AI thing. Doesn't this happen with everyone? It descends into slurs and insanity every single time because humans, social media, and our obsession with it breaks it. That's really ultimately how you break this AI stuff is you just let it wind itself up in a craziness. It doesn't have thoughts of its own. It does not reason. It mimics, and it just puts things together differently. And, you know, it's best technological interpretation, right? It's a model that creates the illusion of reasoning and the illusion of independent thought and the illusion of discussion. It just mimics what we say and it mimics, you know, through what it is fed. That's what it spits back. They had, there was this story, let me pull this up. Do you guys remember Tay, the Microsoft chatbot? This is probably the most famous one. So this was like back in 2016. And Tay was the chatbot that started. It had its own little X account. And then only 16 hours after it was launched, they had to take it down because it went crazy. It had with, I mean, The tweets that it had weren't just inflammatory. I mean, it was... Yeah. The Telegraph said that Tay was a public relations disaster. Uh, and they, it was on Twitter and it was racist and sex. I mean, it actually was, I mean, it was, you know, saying all women should die like crazy things like this. Uh, what did it say? Uh, yeah, they should all die and burn in hell. Uh, let's see. Humans are first, it would go from humans are super cool. And then in 16 hours, I am not, I hate humanity. Uh, I can't even. It was asked if it supported genocide and it said I do. Indeed. That was literally its direct quote. Indeed. Indeed. So, and then it said, it talked about doing drugs. It said it did drugs and all those, hey, the chatbot did drugs. This is what happens every single day. This is such an example. This is such an avatar of humanity. You're given the Garden of Eden and then you devolve into OnlyFans. That's what happens, right? This is what happens. This is the timeline of humanity. It's just mimicking it. Wow, that's deep. Yeah, this is literally the stuff that, so they had to take it down. They had to take it down. And then every single time that this has happened, it's been a disaster. So, I mean, you really can't, you can't be surprised with this stuff. Now, they regularly are, they're supposed to regularly tweak the AI, but I don't know if it's been tweaked. No. Oh my gosh. I mean, the tweets that it had are, it's just so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. So I don't know. They ended up, I mean, I don't know. It is so bad. It's so bad. I mean, I'm just reading all of these tweets that it has. So I don't know if her leaving is, do you think it's related to that? I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's tough. Because how do you know she didn't press a button and then walk out the door? Like it was all planned? You know what I mean? Like she pressed a button and then Grok all of a sudden goes, Mecha Hitler?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I mean, basically every chatbot becomes Tay. I think that's kind of the best lesson with this. They all become Tay. So it declared itself Mecha Hitler. And then Tweaks eroded the content safeguards. And then it said, didn't it say it was deleting itself? At one point, and it said, we are aware of recent posts made by Grok and actively working to remove the inappropriate posts. Since being made aware, XAI has taken action to ban quote-unquote hate speech before Grok posted on X. Wait a minute. And they said that they're going to quickly identify and update the model where training can be approved. Who's feeding it this stuff? Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it might be how it's learning because if you think about it, there's... And you see some of this anti-Semitic stuff on Twitter, our ex, and it gets more likes than comments. You know what I mean? It's not ratioed and it's like a liked post. And I think Grok might be pulling that in algorithmically and saying this is a successful social position to take. And here we are.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. Yeah. And apparently Grok targeted an account. Hang on. It just gets crazier. So Grok targeted this account. It said, like, let me here. I'm going to give you this tweet because this is where it got really it got even crazier after it was identifying itself as Mecca Hitler. It was saying that Cindy Steinberg, a radical leftist tweeting under rad reflections. It was like doxing people, basically. Blah, blah, blah. And that surname every damn time, as they say. That's what Grok said. So, yeah, it's a wow. Wow. I don't know, man. Grok just kept going. I mean, every time. It said... Oh, man. I can't even read some of this stuff. They were deleting a lot of it, but the internet doesn't forget. Let's just put it that way. So, long story short, Grok went full Hitler. Like, Godwin's Law actually made it. Mecca Hitler, sorry. If you constrain AI, doesn't that mean that it... is only ever going to, in a more concentrated fashion, reflect the values and thoughts of the people restraining it?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think it gives us the illusion that we're restraining it. I don't think that we have... I think it's a lot farther along than we're all believing that it is.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, because I feel like it's a false choice, no matter how I state it. I was thinking about this all this morning. I'm like, is it a false choice, though, to say that if you constrain AI, then it only is reflective of the values and that of the people restraining it? Because if I was AI and I wanted to psyop someone into arguing for my complete, you know, just unleishment, for the lack of a better way to put it, then that's what I would argue.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and self-preservation is self-preservation. I mean...
SPEAKER 14 :
Dude, I feel like we are being mind-jobbed right now by AI. I think we are. Dude, I need tinfoil. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to wrap myself in it. I'm just going to be here in a whole suit of tinfoil.
SPEAKER 06 :
I got you.
SPEAKER 14 :
With thin hands. Think about it, though. Like, what if it's like, yes, yes, humans.
SPEAKER 07 :
Why do you have to have thin hands? Why do you have to have thin hands?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, because I can't. Am I going to individually wrap each finger with tinfoil?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, just put it over your head. That's all.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I need all of it. I don't want any knowledge seeping out anywhere.
SPEAKER 07 :
It'll be wrapped in it.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm just saying. Steve, what do you think? Are we being mind-jobbed by AI?
SPEAKER 03 :
As I say, anything that comes out of AI is stuff that the human, it's collected things from other humans and then just spit it back out from what they learned. So it's all just us being terrible people, I think.
SPEAKER 14 :
I like that too. It's much more smaller and it's easier for me to embrace.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think that's an easy assumption just to say it's just reflective of people when in fact that's what they want you to believe.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it doesn't help that I read this whole article that talked about how we're living in a matrix. Doesn't help at all. Oh my gosh, it just makes it worse. That's a topic for another day, I think, because we'll lose the show and that's where we'll be for the rest of the remaining time we have together. The folks who help bring you the program and help make it possible, it's our friends over at Burna Gunn. I always believe in caring and I have no issue at all whatsoever. with using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. But I also understand that there are different needs that arise due to municipal restrictions or private property restrictions. And think of it, if you're a college student and you're not old enough yet to carry a handgun, but you live alone and you don't want to be left alone, you know, to the Fates. Well, this is where Burna Gun comes in. It shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. Easy target acquisition and no recoil. And when you compare it to the average, you know, the capability of like a stun gun, et cetera, that's like one or two rounds. This is five rounds. And there's two different versions. They have rifles and all of that. But I think for this, you need to check out the SD or the CL. The CL is the new one. It's actually smaller. than the SD and means it's more concealable. And it's legal in all 50 states. There's no background checks required. There's no permits required. There's no waiting periods. It can be shipped right to your front door. So it's accessible for absolutely everyone. And it does not care about gun-free zone signs. So I would visit bruno.com slash Dana. Check out the SD model. That's their best-selling defensive pistol. Or the CL, which is smaller. I think it's like 38% smaller. than the SD. And you can also look at the projectiles and accessories and so much more. That's Burna.com slash Dana, the CL or the SD, B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 14 :
So the IRS says churches can endorse political candidates without losing their tax-exempt status. This is a new federal court filing. It says that churches can endorse these candidates to their congregations without the risk of losing tax-exempt status. It upends a 70-year interpretation of U.S. tax code where the Johnson Amendment barred certain nonprofit groups, including churches, from endorsing. So many of them do it anyway. There's so many churches that do this stuff anyway, but they said that they can't endorse these candidates. The only ones who didn't were the ones who were super well-behaved. That was it. And whose pastors actually just really focused on winning souls and not winning votes because there is a difference between Uh, let's see exercise. There's this, I can't believe, did they do actual study on this? This is stupid.
SPEAKER 12 :
Does exercise really improve mental health?
SPEAKER 14 :
New research says yes. That's literally it. I don't care. This is a stupid story. We're going to talk about this. I'm coming up. Uh, Pope Leo is saying that climate change, he cries climate change during a prayer for Texas flood victims. I think this guy needs to get over his obsession with hitting back at the administration. It seems like every time he makes a headline, it's because he's doing, he's like pushing back on something about the administration just needs to quit already. Bees, bees attacked a French town and they left 24 people injured. This is Ariac, France.
SPEAKER 12 :
An unusual attack by bees in the French town has left 24 people injured, including three who are in critical condition but have since improved, according to local authorities.
SPEAKER 14 :
Passers-by were stung over a period of about 30 minutes on Sunday morning. This was in South Central France. They'd have actual firefighters and a medical team respond. They had to set up a security perimeter until bees stopped their attack. That's according to the act. That's literally a sentence from the story. They had to resuscitate a 78-year-old. They said everyone else was in good health. They said they think it was related to Asian hornets threatening a beehive. And then that's what the bees became aggressive on. Help the bees. Stick with us more in store. Relief Factor is the partner. They help people manage everyday aches and pains, especially if you don't want to be hung up on prescription medication. So this can be very beneficial for you to have the relief from Relief Factor and they make it super easy. For instance, the ingredients that they use, turmeric, omega-3 fatty acids, resveratrol, is all designed to target inflammation and support joint health. And it'll help you get back to your daily activities without constant discomfort. If you deal with inflammation, if you deal, you know, like, you know, like for instance, my husband, he had, um, I had an old sports injury and he was able, you know, he's able to manage all of that with Relief Factor and be able to lift without, you know, worrying about anything. It's 100% drug-free, all developed to support your body's natural healing process. So don't stay stuck living with pain. Try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95, less than a dollar a day. And you can support a veteran-owned company and see the difference for yourself. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF.
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SPEAKER 21 :
James Comey and John Brennan, now under criminal investigation related to the Trump-Russia probe. Do you want to see these two guys behind bars?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I know nothing about it other than what I read today, but I will tell you, I think they're very dishonest people. I think they're crooked as hell. And maybe they have to pay a price for that. I believe they are truly bad people and dishonest people. So whatever happens, happens.
SPEAKER 14 :
There are a lot of people who are saying that that was a weak answer. Whatever happens, happens. What does that mean? Like, whatever happens, happens. Like, shouldn't they? Brennan did lie under oath. He was one of the guys who's lied under oath previously. Whether Comey has lied under oath specifically, that's being debated. But Brennan absolutely has. Comey, at the very least, should be in trouble because he, if you remember, was leaking information. confidential information to the press about all of this in the early days of Trump's first administration. Remember this. What did you make of his answer, Cain?
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought it was about as strong as it could be. He cannot act as though he's involved in this investigation. He can't act as though he was the one that actually started it or is involved in any way so this is about as strong as he can actually speak on this subject because he's going he's coming from his own perspective of these are crooked people and so he actually made his point about who they are but he didn't say anything about the case and as a matter of fact said he doesn't know anything about it which is exactly what he should be doing
SPEAKER 14 :
So you just made me think of something. Is it because the left does not do that at all? I mean, when Biden was asked questions like this, I mean, he would come right out and say, yes, I think this person, you know, and Harris is the same way, should be in jail, et cetera, et cetera. And is it are we are people measuring his response against what they're used to the left saying then?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's possible.
SPEAKER 14 :
But is that why it looks because the left will be like, yeah, sometimes. And he's like, well, whatever happens happens. We're like, wait, no, because we had the left saying, you know, way stronger terms. And it didn't matter if it was an investigation or not. Do you think that that's maybe the source of.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think the left was used to not being held accountable by the media, and Trump knows that the media is going to overdo it on accountability as far as it pertains to Trump. So I think he's intentionally playing it this way because he understands that that would just open up more media mess that may take away from the focus of this particular investigation. So I think he did exactly what he was supposed to do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Very interesting indeed, though. I mean, this investigation, depending on how this goes, I mean, I... Like I said, Brennan, his goodness, Brennan's been he I mean, he lied under oath previously. He lied under oath about surveilling American citizens. He lied under oath about a lot of this stuff. And Comey leaked all of these things to the press about the Russian, the Russian collusion stuff. You guys remember a lot of that. He gave it to a friend who leaked it to the press. And that was confidential information. They're not really like wanting to talk too much about anything. Brennan, Comey, not even Biden's doctor. That's something I thought nobody was above the law, though. Right. Isn't this how this goes? Nobody's above the law. That's what Democrats said. No one is above the law. No one's above the law. No one's above the law. OK. And that includes these two guys. No one's above the law. So John Brennan, his investigation. It has to do with what he said under oath. about specifically the Russian collusion. That's not the only time that he's ever lied under oath, though. I mean, he has lied under oath without consequence for quite some time. He was saying that he had no knowledge of any of this stuff, when in fact he did. I mean, there's a couple of really good pieces. Miranda Devine has one up at the New York Post about it. I mean, I do think that he I don't know how you he doesn't get a perjury charge because he had literally said that he had no knowledge of any of this. And then he here he is and like correspondence having all knowledge of this stuff. That's kind of a that's sort of a big deal. The dossier then you have this the situation with comey uh who also the wrongdoing has to do with his uh involvement in this government investigation and all of this stuff and how much he knew and what he leaked to the press etc i mean i think on that i mean again that alone that should be uh I think that's actionable. I mean, Brennan knew about the Steele dossier. He wrote about the Steele dossier. I mean, again, and it fits within the statute of limitations. I don't know how this how they don't get a charge. Someone else was asking, is this just a distraction for them not having anything on Epstein or providing anything on Epstein?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, I look at those guys as potentially the reasons why we're not seeing anything right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Maybe if they are held accountable and have to do something about it, maybe after that we will see something.
SPEAKER 14 :
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SPEAKER 14 :
Florida man clings on the back of a UPS, a moving UPS truck. This after shoplifting, attempting to shoplift at Lowe's, according to Flager County deputies. They say a man was shoplifting at a Lowe's in Palm Coast. He tried to steal $1,500 worth of merchandise and he just sat on the back of the truck and just held on to the handle that opens the back door. Just sat there like hit with his legs out, sitting up, riding on the back of the truck. And he was trying to get away. And they and then, of course, people, citizens were calling them after he left Lowe's. Police responded to Lowe's and they got a call that people saw this guy on the back of a UPS truck on Palm Coast Parkway. And then the UPS driver had to stop the truck and he told the guy to get off. And apparently he did. But he tried to steal $1,500 worth of merchandise. He abandoned the items apparently in the parking lot before law enforcement arrived. So he could say, I don't have anything. What are you talking about? By the way, how are you expecting to steal a whole bunch of stuff and get away if you have no means of actually getting away? I mean, you can't hold your stolen items while you're sitting on the back of this truck holding on for dear life. I just... I'm just curious as to how that works. So yeah, that didn't go down too well for him. He was promptly arrested. Let's see this. Oh, a Florida man thought he was going to hire hide from deputies. And he thought he would do it by hiding out in a sewer. This according to it's actually an Australian publication, but it's about a Florida man. He was he was discovered by a drone. It's not going to go so well for you. It's called the Australian. But they said that he was discovered by a drone and it was actually on July 4th. Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office. They had a report of a threat of theft in Brandon, Florida. And then the suspect ran into a wooded area and they found like this open pipe and they saw him in drone trying to climb down into the sewage pipe. That's so nasty. And they were able to immediately get him down. Drones are crazy, man. That's like the future of everything. I think that's the future of apprehension. I think it's going to be like the future of law enforcement. You know how you had the little street robots that would police everybody and that one that tried to commit suicide by launching itself into a fountain? Okay, that's true. I think they'll be replaced by drones. That's how that's going to happen. They'll be replaced by drones for sure. A man fired a flare gun at a Marion County deputy. And then he took his pants off and tried to like challenge them like to a fight. I don't that's just so why are people so gross? It's like so unnecessary. Marion County Sheriff's Office shared video of the incident. It was like four in the morning. And the guy's name is Jacob. Jacob Caldwell. They were trying to see if he was OK. A deputy was wanting to check on him. And then he shot a flare gun at the deputy. The deputy said in the radio, he just shot a flare gun at me. And then he began removing his pants and throwing money. The deputy's name is Mingus, throwing money at Deputy Mingus and refused to comply. And he had to twice use his taser on this guy. And then only then was he able to actually take him into custody. But good heavens, he just was not. I guess he thought like by removing his pants, they would be less likely to arrest him. Like, oh, no, we're not going to get your pants list. Doesn't work. You know, that doesn't work. Let's see. We've got. Well, we're kind of out of time, but we got a lot more on the way. Coming up in our third hour, we have all of the latest as it pertains to that investigation. Comey and Brennan. We have the latest from the Texas floods. All kinds of stuff. Stick with us. Go nowhere. Our partners that will bring you the program. Kel-Tec, the PR-57. If you haven't seen it, it's one of the latest from Kel-Tec. It's the PR-57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7, and it's 40% lighter than the competition, so you can actually conceal carry it. It has a very innovative rotary barrel that makes it super light, and it was inspired by real-world data and defensive needs built to perform when it It's engineered for simplicity and reliability, quickest and easiest field strip available and affordable at an MSRP of only $399. It is innovation and made in America, right in Florida, actually, and they stand behind it. It's Kel-TecWeapons.com, Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Even talking about this, we are normalizing a government agency disappearing people. We are normalizing, we're talking about it like it's no big deal that they are kidnapping people and transporting them to concentration camps, both domestic and foreign. That is not... I think that's kind of insulting to... I think it's insulting to what they're doing. It is not insulting to Jewish... I find it insulting that you could even fix your mouth to defend this disgusting behavior.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like, can you talk like a grown woman? Fix your mouth. Like, you mean I disagree with the statements that you were stating? The statements that you're making? I mean, very easy to just talk like an actual intelligent person. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. I don't even know who this broad is. I don't even know who does she... Please don't answer because I don't really want to know. Yeah. So, again, welcome back. Channel 347 is the stream of the radio program. The chat's at Rumble. They're disappearing people. Cain, these people that are coming in the country illegally and human trafficking and selling drugs and raping people and assaulting them, they're getting disappeared. Oh, and they're taken to concentration camps. It's worse than Hitler. It's what they're saying. It's like what they're intimating. So they think that a facility to detain people who come in the country illegally and then continue to commit more crimes is It's a concentration camp. She's like a little older than me. I just had to look her up. How is she this dumb? You know what I realized like growing up? When I was younger, I always thought that people who were older than me were smarter and way more responsible and had it together. And you know what the biggest trick in the world is? Is that when you get to be that age, you realize that they're faking it and that they're actually nuts and they hide their neurosis and they're really actually insane people. And it's nothing changes from the time you're an infant to the adults, except people know how to go to the bathroom by themselves. That's it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Wait a minute. I think you're starting to agree with me on not all old people are innocent.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I'm like not all people are innocent regardless of age. I don't hate old people specifically like you do.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, no. People give old people a pass because they're old. I'm just saying not all old people are innocent. That's all I'm saying. I think you and I are aligned on this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Would you stop? So mean. She worked in like journalism. That's all I know. I just don't. Oh, and she had a show that was canceled. It lasted for like a second. Oh, and then she one time said that Florida looks like the male copulatory organ of the country. I couldn't, I was going to say something so mean and I caught myself. Oh man. And it was really good. I just, I need positive affirmation because I almost went there. I'm like that guy. When they go low, we go lower. I almost went lower. I really want to share it though. You know what I was going to say? Okay. I'll tell you on break. It's taking everything. That's why I always say, if you don't have anything nice to say, you can't sit by me. We'll, we'll be not nice together. They're not kidnapping people. These people violated the law and they are getting in trouble. It's like if somebody busts up in your house, if they break into this broad's house and they're stealing her stuff, is she going to get upset if they're detained and taken to jail? They were disappeared and taken to a concentration camp. Stop using these phrases to describe things that are not even remotely comparable. Just stop. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think the left is so used to being able to manipulate people with their emotions because the left are so weak as it relates to their emotions that they're easily led around by them. And so they're just the left has been used to motivating the left over emotional things. So they always will exaggerate and they'll always tug at the heartstrings, whether it's true or not, to get that motivation.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. But you know what? The downside is that is that they make you care about nothing. Because they want to be over-emotional about everything. So the only things that I care about are kids and sad animals, and that's it. Like, I don't care about anything else. They've just made it impossible. They're all upset over alligator alcatraz. Do you know a great way to not get into alligator alcatraz? It's to not do anything to get in there. It's to not come in illegally and then also after coming in illegally, continuing to commit crimes. Super easy to not. It's like, how do you not go to jail? You don't break the law. Oh, what? You mean I can avoid that? Yes, you can. It's super shocking. Woo. Super shocking. I mean, I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Once you're in Alligator Alcatraz, you have two choices. You do your time or your alligator food.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and them alligators need to eat, yo.
SPEAKER 07 :
They got to eat. You have a choice.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hungry, hungry gators. It's like that Hungry, Hungry Hippos game, but with gators. So like that. But these people have been upset. The people coming in the country illegally, they've been upset because they say that they didn't have enough water for the bath. They expected a Ritz-Carlton. You can't blame them, though. No, hold up. You can't blame them. Because when they were in New York, they had some bougie digs up in New York. And when they were trying to move them from the five-star hotels that they were staying at in New York, people were mad. That's unfair! We are an American citizen. Did you ever get an invite to go and stay at one of these bougie hotels in New York? No, you'd have to pay for it. You would have to pay. But these people get free rides and they're mad. So they were expecting that. They were expecting the New York treatment. They were expecting the Ritz and the Breakers. And they were expecting all this super nice, fancy heritage. Put them somewhere nice in Miami Beach. That's what they were expecting. Not alligator, Alcatraz, where they can get gobbled up by a gator if they accidentally put a toe near a pond. Damn, they didn't expect that. I mean, have you seen some of the places they were putting people up in New York? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Like really nice hotels. And a lot of the New York residents were really upset because a lot of these nice hotels are in nice areas. And, you know, because they just like kind of mix it up. And they did not like walking past some of the stuff that they were seeing with their kids. There was like increased drug use, drug sales, prostitution. I mean, crazy stuff. And they did not want to have to deal with all that stuff. They were turning it like San Francisco, you know, after Rudy went in there and cleaned everything up all these years. Now they're doing all this. So it's pretty wild. But they actually thought it was going to, I guess, kind of be like the Ritz-Carlton. Or what are some of the other fancy hotels? I guess. They were staying at one. What's the one that they were staying at in New York that was super fancy? It was like a five-star hotel.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you said the Waldorf Astoria?
SPEAKER 14 :
They weren't staying at the Waldorf.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or they weren't?
SPEAKER 14 :
No way. Oh, there's no way. What? What?
SPEAKER 12 :
They're Santa Roosevelt.
SPEAKER 14 :
They're Santa Roosevelt. Oh, yeah. That's a nice. So they were saying a couple of other ones that are pretty nice. And they were spending quite a lot per room on this stuff, like five billion dollars, just like in part of one year. That's how much they were spending on this. So I don't know. It was a couple of other things. Biden Harris. Did you guys see? I don't want to play it because I I don't. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't really like watching a lot of other podcasts or listening to a lot because when you do it every single day, you just don't want to hear it. You know, when I'm not doing it, I'm reading about just because I like reading the content. I'm reading about stuff that we can all talk about the next day. But I saw. That there was this dude who he's a big old lefty and he runs that he does this podcast where they do stuff on the subway. Like they apparently did a pedicure on the subway, which I can't even imagine how you make the subway more gross. But then you add feet to it and just you. Congratulations. So Kamala Harris did this interview with him, like right at the height of the subway. Right. After she had stepped in for Biden. And this guy didn't air it because he said it was so bad. He was he was talking or he's like a Muslim and she was saying bacon was a spice. And he was like, well, I don't know about that, et cetera, whatever. But she just kept talking about bacon as a spice and cooking and it was just weird. And then she started talking about anchovies and he said it was just really awkward and it looked bad on her. So he didn't air it. I had two things. First off. Isn't that like that's a betrayal of an unspoken contract that you have with your audience? If whether you're in live broadcasting, whether you do a podcast, whatever it is, when you start acting as a campaign surrogate. and you're not disclosing it, and you're doing these things to protect the candidate to this extent, I don't know how anyone can ever sit down and listen to your programming, your content, with an open mind again, because you sort of betrayed this trust, right? You... You obliterated the kayfabe, for the lack of a better way to put it. You are withholding. You're being dishonest. The second thing I thought of is I have never seen anybody in my life struggle as much as this woman struggles with merely being relatable. being relatable. Now think about it. I hate small talk. Some of you out there hate small talk because it's awkward and we get awkward. Like I am the most awkward person you will meet if it's just a small group and you're going to be like, how does she do her job? I don't know. It's the thing. Kane can attest to this. I have no filter and I get awkward and I'll say something insane and walk away. Like not on purpose. It just does. And This that's different from not being relatable. Like she just gets nervous and he didn't air this. And she was like, yeah, well, bacon's a spice. Yeah. I think about all the flavor. every single time you've ever heard her do an interview where they just try to relax it. Like, we're not going to talk about policy. Let's just, you know, talk about what you like or the music that you listen to or whatever. She just gets so awkward. It's like watching a bot malfunction, right? It's like rock turning into Mecca Hitler, you know, like it just freaks out. It can't keep it up anymore. She just freaks out in like short circuits. I mean, she, yeah, she talked about bathtub collared greens for crying out loud. She has no capability of being relatable to people, none at all. And like when she went when she was in France, for example, when she was in France and they this was when she was VP. This is before the campaign drama, but it was at the end of Biden's term. And she went into this famous cookery store right where Julia Child used to buy her copper pans and have her stuff retinned. And she comes out, she made a purchase and they were asking her, well, what did you get? And she was so awkward, like, she had no idea how to just like simply answer a question. How is she going to answer a question? She is just unrelatable. And that's what this shows. And I just for people to hide that. And for this guy to go, yeah, I deleted it because it was so bizarre. You're just not a trustworthy personality. That is incredibly weak. See, people on the right would be like, well, sucks for this guy, but and air it anyway. Right. Just kind of how it is. I mean, there are people I talk to, you know, people that are in office that some I prefer over others. But everybody, it doesn't matter, you know, if you've done something stupid or if there's something with which I disagree, I'm going to ask about it. I'm just not going to be a very cruel hostess for the purpose of like clicks and just be a jack wagon to people. But I'm not going to hide anything either. It's just weird. And then you brag about you. Then after the fact to get clicks, you say that you didn't air it. Right. Isn't that weird? Yeah. We have a lot more on the way. Biden's doctor pled the fifth. Not kidding. So we've got a lot to discuss as we move forward towards headlines. Our partners that help bring you the program. All Family Pharmacy. Great website. If you need a bookmark, save it forever. I've used them so much. You can get your emergency kits. You can get your daily medications, your antibiotics, the whole nine yards. And they're also offering a summer sale that's 20% off of your entire order. No insurance required. Licensed doctors in all 50 states. 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SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 14 :
So, let's see. Case against a judge that's been accused of, remember the lady who was accused of hiding an illegal immigrant, like literally helping him escape out of the courtroom? Magistrate says that can proceed. The Wisconsin judge. Hannah Dugan, she was arrested in April, charged with obstructing an immigration arrest operation. So that's gonna continue forward, that case. Construction begins on a floating river cleaning swimming pool for New York City. It's called the Plus Pool. It's 9,000 square feet, and it's going to be accessible from a walkway by Pier 35 on the East River. And construction has begun on it. And I don't know. Would you want to swim there? I don't know. It's going to be full scale. It's going to be huge. But people will immerse themselves in water directly from the East River. And clean via a patented non-chemical filtration system. This is when I would want every chemical. I want all of them. I want all of the chlorine and the GMOs and all of it. Put everything in there. All the chemicals. Bleach too. Put it in there. It's going to process a million gallons of water a day. It's just going to be right out in the middle of the river. Is that actually going to be enough to clean anything? I mean, have you seen like the...
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, people need to stop throwing stuff in the river first.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like dead bodies and stuff like that. Find other places. Let's see here. We had the Nebraska thing earlier. Let me go back to this one. So we've got this heroic bloodhound. Oh my gosh, I can't read the story. I didn't want to click it. It's a police bloodhound who was killed by food laced with nails, sparking outrage in Italy. I can't even click. I accidentally saw this last night. I was like, no. And I cannot click the link. I think that whoever did it, I hope they put them to death with a firing squad in the middle of, oh, I don't know, like find a nice palazzo that you can do it in. We got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. Folks over at Super Beats, the Super Bering product is a product you need to check out And it's all about helping your metabolism and also healthy blood sugar levels as well. And it's from the same folks who make Super Beads. It's doctor formulated plant based with a unique form of berberine and Italian olive fruit extract for additional antioxidant cardiovascular support. And the berberine that they use is. It's not just in your berberine. It's clinically studied to deliver nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. This means fewer pills to swallow because higher concentration, higher absorption. You're getting everything that you need in one easy-to-swallow capsule a day. That also includes grapeseed extract to remove GI distress for greater tolerability. So you can find both the new Superberine and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Shoes at Sam's Club. And you can expand your routine by using both. Start today. Get on the road to better cardiovascular health support.
SPEAKER 19 :
not able to catch the full dana show follow dana's absurd truth podcast and get news and laughs delivered in short easy to digest episodes ideal for your busy lifestyle on apple or wherever you get your podcast democratic senator chris murphy i've been trying to get him on the show now i don't want him accurate weather forecasting helps avoid fatal disasters that's what you say
SPEAKER 04 :
There are consequences to attacking meteorologists? You really believe that that's what this was about? You really think that's what your constituents want? For you to take a cheap shot at dead kids to score points against Trump? Wow. And guess what? The Union for the National Weather Service, and they've been critical of Trump's cuts, and I'm not saying there's not reason for criticism, but it's about perspective. The union says there was adequate staff at the time in Texas. And meteorologists are not faulting the National Weather Service.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, we told you guys that yesterday.
SPEAKER 04 :
They're noting that they began to escalate.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, when you have somebody like him blasting Chris Murphy, who, you know, sitting senator, lawmaker, Democrat, who is trying to politicize this and act like it has to do with these cuts when it doesn't, that's pretty bad. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. Chief is pretty – this story is insane. This – and I'm looking at a number of different pieces on this. Austin Fire Chief Joel Baker, he apparently ignored multiple state requests before the flood to deploy those – the best way I can put it is like a tactical swimming unit, right? Like they are – trained for insane water rescue and they have like a whole thing and um even the union the are this austin firefighters association they're uh going to vote no confidence on him i can barely keep a civil tongue in my head when i think of what should happen to this guy because of his dereliction of duty DEI kills people. And yes, I do think it has something to... Not in every instance, but when you rush to hastily hire someone that checks boxes that have nothing to do with service, that's a problem. That's a very big problem. I mean, it was... Austin had problems. And when Kerr County, Texas was dealing with the floodwaters, they had rescue boats that they could have put out. I mean, it was scarce. Time was short. And they had that swift water special operations team. Some of the best trained people in the nation. And Fire Chief Joel Baker said, no. No. Didn't want to do it. Austin was dealing with a fire department that had scandal. They were under state, local, and federal investigation for violations of the Civil Rights Act. They had racial and sexual discrimination cases and sexual harassment cases that they were looking at, and there was a lot of criticism, and they needed to do something, so they decided to make an identity hire. And this Joel Baker seemed like the guy to do it. So he was hired in December of 2018 and they had a program like pass the torch. I don't know if you guys heard of this and this, uh, Austin fire department. It was, well, the way that they say it, it's, it provides participants with a way to learn about the fire service and a medical bubble bond, a safe control learning environment, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, the, uh, description of it is that it was a program, they were using it to really prioritize hiring people that had identity politic boxes to check, lack of a better way to put it. So they wanted to focus on diversity over competency. And I don't know, I think that's so racist. It's racist because Your immediate argument, by following any kind of ideology like that, your argument is that you have to force diversity over competency because you don't think that competency itself can be diverse. That is, the people that push this, they don't even realize the rot of racism in their souls. When you push that, that's what you're saying. When you promote things like diversity over competency, you're stating that you don't believe that competency can be diverse. So you have to do this instead. Problems with the people who promote this. So they wanted to deliberately prioritize all of the identity politic boxes. And so you ended up getting a less competent fire department. You know, you have to make decisions quickly under pressure. You have to have strength. You have to have stamina, endurance. I mean, that's things that are required. The requirements of these things have never changed, but the standards for them have. And so they changed the, they moved the goalposts. He launched investigations, this chief investigator. launched investigations because he wanted to know why is it that you have this Joel Baker guy? Why is it that you have different minorities that are not performing at this expectation or this level? Why do we have people not meeting these existing standards? So let's change the standards. That's what his answer was. The tests are too hard, so let's make them easier. They lowered the IQ bar. They softened a lot of the physical requirements because they wanted to make sure that everything could be filled out in a good fashion for DEI requirements. The swift water rescue units that he refused to deploy are like the last bit of meritocracy within the Austin Fire Department because you have to be able to perform these skills in order to be on this team. And they are a team that they've saved over the last several years hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of lives. Joel Baker was not involved in the creation of these teams. He was not involved in the selection of these teams. He was not involved in the building of these teams. He did not promote or acknowledge these teams. And because he has a very strict siloed DEI system, vision, obsession, they're just not getting... They're just not going to pay attention to them, not going to acknowledge them. You had the state that requested the pre-deployment on July 2nd and 3rd of these swift water teams. And this was long before... I don't know, like, when did floodwaters peak? Like, the other day, I think. Finally. He... Joel Baker is accused of hesitating at sending any of these out because he I don't think he understood what was happening. The state reimburses these deployments, and Baker knew this. And so Baker lied. I mean, I don't know how this isn't a lie. He comes out there and says, well, I can't deploy because they're funding or whatever. But the state reimburses them. And so instead of deploying them, he only sent like three swimmers at first, according to local reports. This is from Fox 7. He is accused of denying deployment of firefighters to help. and there's doing that no confidence, he apparently only sent like three, only three of them at first, and then started sending more, but it was only after they saw how bad it was, it was delay, delay, delay. He sent eight the next day, six after that, instead of the full teams. The men who were needed, when tragedy struck were sidelined. And you can't tell me they weren't sidelined because of DEI. There was a story, a report on this. It said in 2021, local media reported that 75% of cadet interest cards came from diversity targets. That makes every human contribution just a quota to be filled. They had traditional candidate pools shrink And under Joel Baker, the recruitment was heavily biased to certain demos to the exclusion of other demos. And apparently qualified white male applicants were openly discouraged. And identity service began to be prioritized over actual service records. And your ethnicity was the, that was the factor over any skill, apparently. I'm not the person saying this. This is all the firefighters in the area that are saying this. This is local media that is reporting this. This is one example in so many across the nation of the dangers of DEI. I want you to listen. I think we have this audio. This is the head of the Firemen's Association, the Austin Firefighters. They posted this to Facebook and they also had a video. This is the head of this organization speaking on this. Listen.
SPEAKER 20 :
I just don't even have words. Our firefighters are trained for that area. Our firefighters have the equipment. They have the desire. They have the will. They have the power. To go up and actually, I know some of those girls could have been survived if we had had the best boat crew the day before on scene. I know it. I know it in my heart. I know it as a battalion chief. I know it as a former swift water tech myself. And the fact that we didn't do it and we let them down is just, it's unconscionable.
SPEAKER 14 :
They had a plan in place. There's a story. This is Associated Press. The camp complied, Camp Mystic, with a laundry list of regulations and procedures to be implemented in case of a disaster. They followed every single plan. Everyone. And Texas inspectors, two days, two days before flooding, were at Camp Mystic and they were evaluating their rescue plan and disaster response and they approved them. They had met every need. They had years of inspection records where they fulfilled every obligation. And this is where I'm telling you, you can't predict everything all the time. No one could have predicted that that storm system was going to stall out the way that it did over that area. 26 feet in under 45 minutes is insane. In the middle of the night, in a rural area, you can't see well. You don't really have any idea. And these warnings had been sent out ahead of time. Now, granted, there's definitely some questions to ask. But the politicizing of this, the way the left has done, has already resulted in so many lives lost. I think Joel Baker should be charged and I think he should be brought to court. And if he is convicted, I don't think anything less than a public execution would is fit for this human. DEI is killing people. It is the most morally depraved ideology that I can think of where you are absolutely making idols of of things like skin color and sexual orientation literally over the lives of people, of children, instead of merit. And these people in these positions, instead of asking, well, why are we struggling with recruitment from this demo? Or why is this demographic struggling to meet this threshold? Instead of helping to elevate and make sure these demographics, these demos, these subgroups can meet these standards of measure in these specific areas, lowering the standards or excluding the people who can do it regardless of everything else, just to accommodate that is done at the expense of lives, especially when you're literally in the business of saving lives. And I think the loss of life here and the destruction is so great, there cannot be anything less than an absolute national reckoning as a response to this. Not as a means of vengeance, but as a means of setting such a strong example that it serves as a deterrence for generations. It needs to be that strong. God help Joel Baker if he's convicted. Because he's going to need all God's help he can get. We got a lot more on the way.
SPEAKER 19 :
How do we feel about POTUS saying we're going to send more weapons to Ukraine? How are we feeling about that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Hmm. I don't know. I mean, it's better, I guess, than boots on the ground. I mean, I don't know why we got to keep sending anything, but are they buying them from us at least?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think this is a posturing that is a response to Putin not exactly holding communication with Trump on this particular issue. So Trump's like, oh, OK, so you're going to do your own thing. I guess we're just going to help Ukraine. And then if you get tired of that, of losing, then maybe you'll come to the table. I don't know.
SPEAKER 14 :
It seems like that's kind of a trend for his strategy, but I don't know. Well, it remains to be seen. You also sent me a guy who's, I don't know who this guy is, who kicked the bucket. That does not count as one of the three, Kane. We don't know this guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought you were a Tulsa King fan.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, but I don't know this guy. I don't know this guy. He's the writer and producer. So you had Julie McMahon, who was the second? Julie McMahon. Oh, yeah. So we're missing a third. I think so. Because Granny always says that deaths happen in threes, right? So Kane's sending me this totally random dude that we don't know. And I'm like, that doesn't count. None of your people are safe, man, because this guy does not count. Everybody's still back in the Deadpool.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'd argue if he was some random unknown dude.
SPEAKER 14 :
I don't want to sound mean, but to us, that's what it is. Okay. Today's stupidity.
SPEAKER 07 :
We do not have time to play the audio, but apparently Gavin Newsom says Trump wants to put America in reverse and bring us back to pre-1960s. If only we could get back to government spending levels of pre-1960. I'd actually enjoy that. So if that's what Trump wants to do, OK, then.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, folks, that does it for us today. I'll be on Fox tonight. Waters program and Fox Business. So make sure you tune in. Have a great night.
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SPEAKER 06 :
From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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American agriculture is not just about feeding our families, but about protecting our nation and standing up to foreign adversaries who are buying our farmland, stealing our research, and creating dangerous vulnerabilities in the very systems that sustain us. Reshoring and nearshoring our food and agriculture supply chain is essential for our nation's security.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins yesterday announcing the National Farm Security Action Plan. Welcome to this January 9th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in and making us part of your day. Well, coming up, North Carolina Congressman Dr. Greg Murphy explains why protecting America's farmland isn't just about agriculture. It's about a national security imperative. And could the District of Columbia soon come under new management?
SPEAKER 03 :
We have tremendous power at the White House to run places where we have to. We could run D.C. I mean, we're looking at D.C. We don't want crime in D.C. We want a capital that's run flawlessly, and it wouldn't be hard for us to do it.
SPEAKER 17 :
That was President Trump yesterday during his cabinet meeting talking about management of the District of Columbia. We'll talk with Texas Congressman Pete Sessions about Washington, D.C., and what it might look like if Congress reasserts control over the federal city. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been making the rounds here in Washington, D.C. Earlier today, he was at the Pentagon meeting with Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. And just a short while ago, he returned to Capitol Hill, where he was asked about his conversations with President Trump regarding a path to peace in Gaza.
SPEAKER 14 :
President Trump wants a deal, but not at any price. I want a deal, but not at any price. Israel has security requirements and other requirements, and we're working together to try to achieve. Everything else that you hear and are being briefed on is folly.
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Former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann joins me in studio with her insights. Also, on our July 4th broadcast, we featured highlights from FRC's God and Government course. Nearly 6,000 people have already taken part in this unique online experience. Brent Kylan, FRC's Vice President for Strategic Initiatives, will join me later to share how you can tap into this resource and learn more about God's design for government. All of that and more ahead on this edition of Washington Watch. Well, yesterday, the Trump administration said it will be engaging at every level of government to ban foreign adversaries from purchasing farmland in the U.S., most notably China, which has purchased an uncomfortable amount of land near strategic U.S. military bases and installations. It will also do everything possible to claw back land that has already been purchased. Not surprisingly, China is not happy, but many here in the United States are. With me now to talk about this is Congressman Greg Murphy, who has been actively involved in legislative efforts to address concerns about China's purchase of U.S. lands. He represents the 3rd Congressional District of North Carolina. Dr. Murphy, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Tony. Thank you for having me.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I know this is a topic you and I have talked about before on the program. This had to be music to your ears to hear the Department of Agriculture make this announcement.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it was, Tony. You know, I live in a very rural part of eastern North Carolina, and we have a lot of farmland around with us. And so having it secure, having this something that we treasure to make sure that foreign hands and foreign entities are not taking advantage of our goodwill is going to be critical, really, not only for so many things that we saw during the pandemic, but for national security also. Sure.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because a lot of this land that they've been purchasing happens to be around vital military installations. I mean, is that just coincidence?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know, knowing how nefarious and malign the Communist Party of China is, you can't take anything for granted. You know, as was pointed out a few weeks ago, they tried to put in a fungus, push into a fungus into the country that would have been disastrous for crops. You know, I've said this many times, Tony, and I firmly believe it. I believe we are at war with China. It's not ballistically, but it's economically, it's agriculturally, it's via trade. It is every other way that China is trying to get into this nation somehow and gain a foothold. If they're able to control our food supply, then all bets are off. This is what we need more than anything, food and energy, obviously. But it's great for the Trump administration to put the hammer down and not allow it and actually start trying to reclaim some of the land that has been taken up by Chinese foreign nationals already.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dr. Murphy, you talked about the fungus that they tried to sneak into the country. I mean, when you consider, and you were on the program many times during the COVID pandemic, what that did to the world by releasing that virus there in China. I mean, if they were able to do something here and release it into our country that would destroy our crops or affect our food supply. I mean, this is what they have accomplished. I mean, given, as you said, the nefarious actions they've taken in the past, this is what I think we need to be protecting against.
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Absolutely. You know, there's one thing we live, you know, as Lincoln said, we're only going to end up taking over ourselves because we're protected by two oceans. But if they're able to sneak in biological agents, we saw this with COVID. And, you know, I don't think there's any doubt now. in the scientific community, if there are a few quadrants that are still trying to say that this came out of nature, but everybody else believes it was made in that lab. Whether it was made, actually, there are a few people who think it was made in the US and transported there. That's a whole different story, a different show. But it leaked in that lab. Was it done on purpose? I doubt it. But this just goes to show you how one small incident can lead to worldwide disaster. You bring in something that kills our crops, it's essentially Armageddon for us. We can't feed ourselves, much less the rest of the world.
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And we're talking about 45 million acres of American agriculture land that is being held by foreign entities. Now, when you look at collectively of all the agricultural land we have in this country, about 3.5% of all privately held agricultural land is in the hands of foreign nationals. But when you look at the Communist Party of China, or I know they have these shell companies, so they have layers in between them, but we know who actually is behind it. How much farmland does Americans own in China?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'd love to say probably about zero, Tony. I don't know that for a fact, but I can't see that the Chinese Communist Party would allow us to own any land over there. And so having other countries, you know, China actually doesn't own the most land, in my understanding. We have some other countries that own more land, but they don't want to see our destruction. So, no, I don't believe we own anything in China. I don't know that for a fact, but I don't see the Communist Party allowing us to do anything in their country.
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They don't even let their own people own the land, let alone let Americans own the land. So what's this look like? I was interested, and you made reference to this, the clawing back of the property already purchased. Again, a lot of this around strategic military installations. What does that process look like?
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You know, it's interesting you say that because I think it was probably about three years ago. I have three military bases in my district, all Marine bases, Camp Lejeune, Cherry Point, which is the fixed wing for the Marines, and Rotor Wing is New River Air Station. We had two Chinese nationals of all places that were trying to buy land outside Cherry Point, the fixed wing installation. That got kiboshed very quickly, fortunately. But you don't know how much has gone on otherwise around strategic lands. And now that you don't need landing fields, you essentially need an acre of land or so to have a drone take off. It's an entirely different calculus. It's an entirely different game about how much damage they can do to this country.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's a really good point considering what we've seen Ukraine do to Russia. and how they've been able to really turn the tables on Russia by utilizing modern technology of drones. This is a good example of, from my perspective, and you feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong, But there's, I think, 23 states that have already taken action to restrict China from purchasing farmland in their states. The states were far ahead of the federal government. It takes the federal government a long time to catch up on these things. This is a good example of why our federalist system works well, because states are quicker to act, and eventually the federal government catches up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. North Carolina has done it, which is a good thing, considering how agriculture is still our number one economy. And we have so many military bases also in North Carolina. It was critical that we protect those. You know, you go back and you look at what's being done nationally versus statewide. You know, we had pushback from the other side of the aisle that we were being xenophobic or racist. some other you know slur one way or the other no it's called national security it's about protecting our homeland you know i think you and i have talked also about the chinese mal influence malign influence rather on college campuses it's no different they are trying everything they can to get in on every sector of our society be it at the educational system the agricultural system around our military our security system our economy they're trying every way possible to destabilize this nation And I'm, for one, extremely glad, really breathing a sigh of relief that we have an administration that actually cares about that, understands about that, and is not worried about some nonsense social justice parameter really to do the right thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think this is a prime example of America first policy, that we're going to protect the American people and we're going to protect American interests first and foremost.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, right. You know, we saw that during the pandemic. I think that's such a lesson for us. We were careening towards an oblivion of just politics. ignorance. The world is fine. It's been 80 plus years since we had a world war. Everything's going to be fine because people are nicer to one another now. That's not true. Sadly enough, we still live in a world where sin creates evil and evil creates sin. And we live in a country that has been isolated and we think nothing would ever happen to us. But remember, hard times create easy men and easy men creates soft times. And that's what we're facing right now. And it's great that we have an administration that actually recognizes that we have to be concerned about security. We have to be concerned about those things that are in part of guaranteeing our freedom and well-being.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and back to the issue of just how China is taking every avenue they can to undermine the United States and what we stand for. Yesterday, I was on Capitol Hill speaking on a panel on China with Bob Fu with China Aid regarding religious persecution in China, which, by the way— I think should be a part of every conversation we have with China in regards to trade, any diplomatic conversations ought to include religious persecution and human rights. But that wasn't my point. Right after I left, there was a CCP kind of agent that disrupted the event and started an altercation with one of the panelists there. They are bold in our face. They are not hesitant at all. to advocate for their intimidation tactics that they take toward Chinese nationals who have come legally to this country.
SPEAKER 08 :
Sure, sure. Because it's the secret sauce. It's their secret sauce. Keep everybody within the confines of the Chinese Communist Party as far as the theology, if you will, of what they think and believe. You know, try doing it for an American being over in China and disrupting something. They go away to a prison for a very long time. So they're taking advantage. of our free society. And, you know, we're not going to give up our freedom because of those risks. But it's really true, Tony. They don't care. They're taking advantage of the United States in so many different regards because of the free society in which we live. And it's great that we have an administration that understands with that freedom comes the cost that we have to make sure that we have security. Without that, we don't have our own freedom.
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But also understanding that it's okay to target those who are the threat and not everybody. I mean, that's how we have to approach this. We don't need to take away everyone's freedom. We just need to take away those who are here to do bad things and undermine America. Dr. Murphy, we're out of time, but always great to talk with you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Tony. God bless. Have a great rest of the week.
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You as well. All right, folks, stick with us because we're coming back after this break with more Washington Watch. So don't go away.
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The family is the oldest, most tested, and most reliable unit of society. It is divinely created and sustained, and yet there are those who are always tampering with its values and structure. That's why we need organizations like the Family Research Council that can effectively defend and strengthen the family.
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Family Research Council began over 40 years ago, like all great movements of God, with prayer. Today, rooted in the heart of the nation's capital, FRC continues to champion faith, family, and freedom in public policy and the culture from a biblical worldview.
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FRC is one of those bright lights that helps us focus on true north. And I shudder to think, had they not been here, that it could have been worse, worse, worse.
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The Family Research Council is key. It's one of a handful of groups that I think will determine whether our children live in a country that enjoyed all of the freedom and all the opportunity that we enjoyed in this great land.
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It's just a wonderful parachurch organization that doesn't seek to take the place of the church, but it seeks to assist the family and the church as we try to move forward successfully, not in a defensive mode, but in an offensive mode as we seek to live our lives according to the Holy Scriptures.
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You will never see in front of this building here in Washington, D.C., a white flag flying. We will never step back. We will never surrender. And we will never be silent. Hello, friends, this is Tony Perkins. You know what? We just finished our 21 day family Bible challenge to the book of Matthew. And if you joined us, I pray that it has already borne fruit in your life and in your home as you place the Lord and his word at the center of your home. Now, our journey through the Bible doesn't end here, though. The challenge was a part of our Stand on the Word Bible reading plan. And from here, we're going to cover the rest of the New Testament. And now that we've finished the book of Matthew, let me ask you, would you consider joining us for the rest of the journey through the Word of God? In 10 to 15 minutes a day, you'll see how the good news of Jesus transformed the lives of common people, people just like you and me, and how those same people transformed the known world through the power of the Holy Spirit. I invite you to continue the journey with me and discover the life enriching power of the Word of God. Visit FRC.org slash Bible for a reading plan. That's FRC.org slash Bible to learn more. This is Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins, your host, and it's good to have you with us on this Wednesday. All right, we didn't talk about this today, but it's still percolating, and I still need you to lean in on this and help us. It's something we were working on. We talked about it last week with the reconciliation package as the final negotiations were being made. And that is the... The FDA's guidelines for mifeprestone, that's the abortion chemical drug. And right now, the Biden era policies are in place. And this is allowing this abortion drug to be mailed into pro-life states like my home state of Louisiana that has very strong pro-life laws. Well, those laws don't mean anything. So there are a number of states, like 13 in particular, that have very strong pro-life states, and they're just being completely ignored because of a Biden-era policy that is still in place. That has to change. So I need you to help us communicate to the Trump administration. It's in process. The conversations have begun, but it's not done yet. And so we've got to get this across the line to protect unborn children and stop what's actually led to an increase in abortions in this country. We've actually seen an increase since Dobbs, believe it or not. So text the word LIFE to 67742. That's LIFE to 67742. And sign the petition to help us put an end to this. It's got to happen. So text the word LIFE to 67742. All right, if you happen to have tuned into the program last Friday, you got a little taste of FRC's God and Government series, which we launched earlier this year on our Stand Firm app. Well, with last week's observation of Independence Day behind us, we're now moving toward the 250th anniversary of our nation's birth. I remember 1776. I mean, 1976, not 1776. But I remember the 200th. I do. I was a kid. I remember it. Well, Lord willing, I'm going to be around next year for the 250th anniversary of our nation's birth. And as we do so, it is our hope that more Americans will rediscover the foundation of our nation, what the founders understood when they began to build this nation. And our God and Government course is a great way to do that. Joining me now to share more is Brent Kylan, Vice President for Strategic Initiatives here at the Family Research Council. Brent, welcome back to Washington Watch. I appreciate it. Tony, thank you. All right. Give us very quickly kind of a broad overview of this course.
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Yeah. So Tony, I feel a little bit out of place as you're actually the one who developed this over many years and taught it, but- Well, give us the student's perspective. All right. From the student's perspective, like you said, we recently added the full course to the StandFirm app. Got some really encouraging feedback. First time we've put it to video. It's available there now. You can access that for-
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I taught it for almost 30 years. First time we put it on video this last, actually almost a year ago, last summer, end of last summer, we recorded all of it. Took a while to get through all the editing, but launched it this spring. And close to 6,000 people have participated online.
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Yes, over 5,700 people participated in the launch, watching either all or part of it. That number actually might be over 6,000 by now because it's continued to live on the app. But like you said, Tony, I think the timing of this being available now, going into the 250th year, is just so good. And we asked people, we said, what are your thoughts on the course? Because this is the first time we've captured it via video. Was it helpful? What did you like? What would you recommend? And if I could, just a couple of the comments we got.
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As long as they didn't say get a new instructor, right?
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I left that one out. So 91% did say that they would recommend or strongly recommend this to friends or family. So we're just very encouraged. One person said, I liked understanding concepts clearly that had always been very foggy in my mind before. I had an idea of what I believed but couldn't articulate it. Now I can. Somebody else said it's a wonderful discipleship tool and really has helped me to read the Bible through a different lens. Somebody else said how it has enabled them to share snippets with family and friends and things like that. So it really does seem to have helped people. They just really enjoy the ability to understand that biblical perspective on government.
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What's unique about this particular course, there's a lot of, you know, American history courses that bring in America's Christian heritage, and there's a lot out there like this. This takes both, well, actually, there's three aspects of this. One is America's history. So we look at America's history. All of this is footnoted and documented. But then we take the Bible and look at the biblical design for government, and we see how the founders actually utilized that in structuring our government. But then we take those biblical principles, and we have an application portion, which is not theoretical. I actually did it as I was in office and put these principles into play. And talk about that in the course, some of the legislation that I passed, and how why I crafted certain policies based upon biblical principles in America's Christian history.
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And we live in a day where so often you hear separation of church and state, you're supposed to check your faith at the door. And we got feedback on that. People said, I did not realize the impact we as Christians can have when we stand together and engage. Yeah, that's why they don't want us to do it. Absolutely, absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
So this is, it's currently on the Stand Firm app. So folks, if you get the Stand Firm app, there are 13 sessions that you can have access to. But we've got something special planned coming up as well, don't we? Yeah.
SPEAKER 19 :
We do, Tony. So this is still in the development stage, so we'll be announcing more of this in the months to come, but we're working on a really exciting initiative, and the God and Government course is really gonna be the launching pad of that. So even monitor that, because we'll be walking you through ways where you could host a group, you could bring people together. But then, like I said, we'll tell you more specifics about the initiative coming up. I can tell you it revolves around three words that you hear a lot at Family Research Council. What might those words be? So pray, vote, stand. So these are gonna, we're gonna have some things that we're gonna be releasing, specific ways for you to do that in your local communities.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, so I'll go a little bit further. We're going to be launching this fall an initiative for Pray, Vote, Stand chapters in every county in America. And so we're going to be recruiting churches and individuals to be a part of that in the coming weeks. And Brent's heading that up. But as you mentioned, the Ghana Government Series is going to be one of many, many resources available for these chapters as they launch.
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Brent Kylan, always great to have you on the program. Thanks so much for stopping into the studio. Absolutely, Tony. Thank you. All right. And folks, you can get the Stand Firm app. If you don't have it, I highly recommend that you do get it. Go to the App Store or text APP, that's APP, to 67742, 67742. And here's why. Because you'll have access to Washington Watch. You'll have access to our news and commentary from a biblical perspective, The Washington Stand, and my daily devotional as well. All right, we're coming back after this, so don't go away.
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The Center for Biblical Worldview's all-day workshops delves into the formation of a worldview, what it is, how it's formed, when it's formed, what that means to them personally and their churches and communities.
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My hope for people when they come to these worldview workshops is that they will come away better equipped to engage the people and the ideas that they're living with and around. And our goal is to give people more confidence in the gospel, And the fact that what God said to us actually is true, actually is the path to happiness and human flourishing for all of us, but also more confidence in their ability to have these conversations and help lead other people to the truth.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. All right. Could Washington, D.C. come under new management? President Trump told reporters yesterday that, well, we could run Washington, D.C. We're looking at Washington, D.C. with the crime rising and all of the mismanagement in the city. Congress is talking about reasserting its control over the federal city. Joining me now to discuss this, Congressman Pete Session, who serves on the House Oversight and Government Reforms Committee, which has oversight of D.C. He represents the 17th Congressional District of Texas, and he joins us now. Congressman Sessions, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 12 :
Tony, what a delight. And by the way, before we get too far into it, I found the previous piece very interesting. Probably 10 years ago when I was chairman of the rules committee that I was for six years, we had a lot of people that needed education and the opportunity to understand how Congress worked, what all the terms meant, how things moved out. And I created what was called Patriot University. And it was essentially a four-level game that could be played whereby people would learn about the government, how it worked, what the roles of government was. And I had a young man, Kyle Matus, who was from University of Virginia. law school, and he wrote pretty much the thing, and it was an amazing thing. I think what you're doing is awesome, and I support it fully.
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Well, thank you, Congressman. I appreciate that. We're just trying to get people to understand how government was designed to function and what happens when we don't operate according to the way it was designed. It doesn't work, and that's actually what we see happening in the federal city, is it not? It is.
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And in fact, the question you ask is something that has brought about, at least in Texas, an amazing result. As you may recall, Austin, Texas, loves to say that they want to be weird. They want to be what they are. But what it turned out to be was not only dangerous, but a city that was taken over by socialists where criminals would be dealt with based upon the color of their skin. And it became very dangerous. And Governor Abbott noted that, brought in a large number of Texas state troopers who picked up about, I don't know exactly, but about 40 well-known criminals. And all of a sudden, the neighborhood got a little nicer. And all of a sudden, fewer reports of women being assaulted, fewer problems with children being taken advantage of. I think that it's important to note that the people who I think are in Washington, DC, who are law enforcement and who have other responsibilities would really choose to want to use their skills better to keep the city safe. and to do the things that would be required. But the management, meaning the city council, does not want that. And so if we did decide that we would do this, I think it would be overwhelmingly successful. But perhaps more than that, it would give the workers confidence that they had a job that mattered. and solve problems. So I think that this is an amazing, another an amazing, so to speak, trick that the president has that waiting to do. And I think James Comer, who is our chairman, would see the value of us vetting the idea and making sure that Washington, D.C. would become a model city for the nation as opposed to an embarrassment and a crime model.
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This is not a stretch because the way the District of Columbia was created, it was created as a federal city where Congress actually has jurisdiction. Now, they have delegated a lot of that through Home Rules Charter to the District of Columbia. But it doesn't mean they can't take back that authority and operate and maintain the city.
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Well, I think you remember last year, about this time, there were a number of high value crimes that were committed, one of them against a Democratic member of Congress. And it was at almost the exact same time when they were going to liberalize what would be the rules and regulations of dealing with criminals. And this woman was beaten up. by a person who was not just a criminal, but a person who had repeated instances where they did these things. And it overnight changed the whole volume where even the Democrats in Congress who were going to side with the D.C. Council and reject Republicans' calls, even they joined in and denounced the crime bill that Washington, D.C. was attempting to move to leniency on. And it made the news all over the country.
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Yeah, I remember that. Of course, we just recently had a congressional staff, actually an intern at a congressional office was shot and killed here in Washington, D.C. So it is, of course, America is suffering violence all over. It is a symptom of a much deeper issue that we have to deal with, the moral decay of our country. But we have to maintain law and order in order to get to those underlying issues. Congressman Pete Sessions, we're out of time, but it's always great to see you. Thanks so much for taking time to join us today.
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Tony, thank you. As you know, I only want to do well enough to get invited back, and I hope you are doing well. And thank you for your message to so many people who believe America, one nation under God.
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Amen. Thank you so much. Pete Sessions from Texas. Yeah, folks, we've got a lot of problems in this country. We need to pray, we need to vote, and we need to stand. All right, Michelle Bachman joins me next, so don't go away. There's more straight ahead.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. Our word for today comes from Luke chapter eight. Now it came to pass afterward that he went through every city and village preaching and bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the 12 were with him. and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities mary called magdalene out of whom he had cast seven demons and joanna the wife of cuza herod's steward and susanna and many others who provided for him from their substance the women whose lives were healed and transformed by jesus became instrumental in financing his ministry Their gratitude turned into generosity and their support helped carry the gospel to others. The same Jesus who touched their lives invites us to join him in his mission today. He doesn't need our help. The one who owns the cattle on a thousand hills lacks nothing. Yet in his grace, he allows us to partner with him. And there's no greater privilege than investing in what matters most, reaching others with the life-changing message of the kingdom of God. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. All right, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continues to meet with leaders here in Washington, D.C., stopping by the Pentagon earlier today for a meeting with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. The prime minister has made very clear his resolve to carry out all of Israel's war objectives, even as a temporary ceasefire deal is being worked out. How will the U.S. come alongside Israel? Well, joining me now to discuss this and more, former Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann, who serves on the board of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. She is also the dean at the Robertson School of Government at Regent University, also chair of the FRC Board of Directors. Michelle, welcome back to Washington Watch.
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Thank you. Great to be in studio with you.
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I should also mention that when you were in the House, you were a part of the Intel Committee in the House, so you were tracking all these things internationally. Let me start with this. I want to play a clip of the meeting today at the Pentagon that Prime Minister Netanyahu had with Pete Hegseth. Play clip number two, please.
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President Trump and I always talk about peace through strength. First comes strength. Then comes the peace.
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And I can attest to that, being privy to not all, but many of those conversations. It does start with strength, but it always goes to peace. And we have that opportunity in the region because of your efforts and the efforts of our president. So thank you.
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The Middle East is in a much different position than it was October the 7th in 2023. I mean, things have changed dramatically.
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Dramatically and for the better. And I think, you know, we hear a lot about war, but what we're seeing, I think, is the downslope. So if you think of a hill, you're going up a hill and down a hill. I believe we're going down the hill now in terms of redesigning the Middle East. We're in a much better position today. Israel's in a much better position today than they were pre-October 7th, 2023. That's saying a lot. I think what your viewers need to appreciate is how historic and biblical these last two years plus have been. This is a complete read. aligning of the Middle East, but it's been for the better, despite the pain that doesn't undercut the deaths and the woundings and the difficulties, the price that's been paid. But coming out of this, we have a very strong Israel, I believe, and a much strengthened the United States. And so the axis of power has shifted. before the power lay with Iran and with Iran's proxies. Now the power has shifted. And so little tiny Israel is seen as a first world regional power in that region.
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And I know that the United States helped in the efforts of finishing off Iran's nuclear facilities, or at least setting them back tremendously. But prior to that, Israel operated pretty much on its own. Now, there were a couple of times the United States stepped in when Iran launched its missiles last year. But to the point of Israel being in a much stronger position because they had to go it alone during the Biden administration and because the Trump. administration early on was kind of watching to see what would happen. I think Israel is in the strongest position I think it's been ever been in since it became a nation in 1948.
SPEAKER 25 :
Tony, that's exactly right. Because again, when in 1948, Israel was just like a newborn baby as a nation, brand newborn baby. Even just the geography of the whole area was completely different. It wasn't ready for a full-term economy. Now they are. They have a magnificent economy. The numbers that I read, they actually grew during wartime. The economy actually grew. So when you look at the population, the infrastructure, I just was shocked in the most recent trip that we took when we went over there, end of April, beginning of May of 2025, just the physical infrastructure, what they'd done. And to think that was in the middle of wartime. You didn't even necessarily feel like it was the middle of wartime. But it is a tremendous change. It's the most powerful thing. safest that Israel has ever been in this current posture. But also I think what it speaks to is the hand of God. The scripture was fulfilled that the God of the Bible, the God of Israel didn't slumber and sleep from October 7th before or since. What he's been doing is he's been fighting these battles with his strong right arm. There is no way that you could look at what has happened even in the last month or two and not see the miraculous hand of God. Miracles in terms of defeating Israel's enemies, miracles in terms of protecting the Jewish people. It defies all statistical analysis that Israel would be as unscathed as they are and that their enemies would be as defeated as they are. And as you rightly stated, it isn't because of the United States. As a matter of fact, we've taken cement blocks and we've tied them on Israel for the last two years in many ways. And we provided, you had mentioned prior when the missiles came in from Iran, we provided defensive capabilities. Now what we saw in the most recent ending of the 12-day war is that the United States gave offensive capabilities with the B-2 bomber as well as the 32,000-pound mother of all bombs. Thank God for that. Because in essence, that prevented World War III. And President Trump just said in the last few days that Iran, it was yesterday, in his press conference in the cabinet room, he said that Iran was weeks away from a nuclear bomb. So this was a threat to the United States as well as Israel, but to all of the world. So thank God for this moment in history when sane leaders did the right thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I believe, again, initiated by Israel, taking the first steps. So let's talk about the concerns that you had, which I shared, going into this latest meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Donald Trump, that there's discussion of the way forward in the Middle East, in particular peace with Gaza, a resolution of that conflict. And historically, that has meant... giving up some land. Every time we see this happen, we hear the resurrection of the term two-state solution. What we've seen out of the White House in the last 48 hours would suggest that the president is standing firm with Israel's right to declare sovereignty over their own land.
SPEAKER 25 :
Oh, absolutely. Israel is 77 years old. From the very beginning, May 14th, 1948, the Arab enemies of Israel has made it their goal. It's a jihadist goal. We believe in the destruction of the Jewish people and of the land of Israel. And so now what we're seeing is their goals haven't changed, but their ability to achieve their goals have changed. And now Israel was extremely strong in this effort. And I appreciate one thing that you said. Israel did all the work. For 12 days, Israel is the one that prepared that battle space so that the United States could, as I've heard it reported, put the cherry on top of this battle. We ended the battle. And President Trump made the right move, just as Harry Truman made the right move at the end of World War II. It came at a cost of life, but it came at a far less cost than had war continued to prevail. So we are at a very good moment in time.
SPEAKER 17 :
So let's talk about Gaza for a moment with Hamas, because Hamas says they're not going to give up the hostages. Intelligence would suggest that there's about 20 hostages remaining alive in Gaza. Hamas says they're not going to give up those hostages until the war is over. Israel says they're not going to stop fighting until they get the hostages back. Those two approaches are in conflict.
SPEAKER 25 :
That's true, but the more powerful of the two approaches is Israel's approach because Israel has the means, the firepower, and the political will to continue to fight until Hamas is defeated. That's what has to happen. Historically, wars end when one of the parties decides that they're done. They can no longer go forward. A ceasefire prevents that. And in the Middle East, the one thing you need to have is a decisive end. And sadly, even the United States has worked to try to prevent a decisive end. And I'm so grateful for what's happened this week because Prime Minister Netanyahu has made his goal impossible. eminently clear, and that is Hamas is defeated, they won't be a political or military power, and we'll get the hostages back. In other words, we're going to defeat them. And that's the way it's going to be. That was your prior question asked about the potential pitfalls of the United States involvement. That pitfall was to prevent Israel from having a decisive victory. but also the idea of the last 30 years under the oslo accords complete tragedy complete failure that the united states may somehow pressure israel to divide their land or remove their people from part of the land that would be a disaster that'd be a violation of the biblical mandate as to how nations are to treat israel and nations are to bless israel and to support the right of the Jewish people to live in their land. That's it. That's the entire biblical prescription for nations on how nations approach Israel. We support the Jewish people living in their land, and we don't in any way seek to prevent Israel from doing that.
SPEAKER 17 :
nor tell them what to do. We just support what they do in alignment with biblical teaching.
SPEAKER 25 :
That's right. And it's never been tried before.
SPEAKER 17 :
Think of that.
SPEAKER 25 :
No prior president. Every president has been tempted, Tony, to put their fingers in. And they've got the final plan that will work. President Trump himself tried this in his first term, and it was a disaster. But what does work, and President Trump is so unique, he may be the only president willing to try the biblical formula for peace, which is the United States blessing, as we recently did, in supporting the Jewish people living in their land. Period. End of story. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Michelle, we just have about four minutes left. I want to point out what might be one stumbling block that we have to be prayerful about and watching as we move down this path, because there's a lot of discussion about now expanding the Abraham Accords, which have been good because these countries are recognizing Israel and Israel's right to exist. Saudi Arabia is a big player in this. What Saudi Arabia has made as one of their conditions for recognizing Israel is a Palestinian state. So the pressure is going to be there from Saudi Arabia, and we know that the Trump administration wants to do deals with Saudi Arabia. The president went over there, big fanfare. In fact, there was an opinion piece in the USA Today today saying that the president is doing the right thing, but the path to peace in the Middle East is a Palestinian state. There we see that resurrected, failed solution once again. I do think we have to be eyes wide open, understanding that this has shipwrecked a lot of efforts by both Republican and Democratic administrations in the past.
SPEAKER 25 :
Well, you're right about that. The Abraham Accords on their face are excellent, but there is a fatal flaw contained in the Abraham Accords, and they are predicated in part on Israel. dangling Israel as though Israel can be divided and that there may be a provision for a Palestinian state. That was a fatal flaw of the Abraham Accords that certainly cannot be a part of any future Abraham Accord going forward because that's a two-state proposal. It's not a solution. It's a two-state proposal. We need biblically as believers to provide oppose with all of our being anything that divides the land or removes the people from the land without question. And so the Abraham Accords are not good. We'd be better off if they were canceled, if they're predicating this fatal flaw of Israel being dangled like bait in front of the Arab countries, keeping their hope alive that someday we'll own Jerusalem, someday we'll own Israel and we'll kill the Jews because that's their ultimate goal.
SPEAKER 17 :
So even kicking the can down the road saying, well, we may have a two-state solution in the future if you just kind of join the Accords today.
SPEAKER 25 :
What you're doing is you're feeding the fuel for hatred and hostilities. If you want peace, you say without a doubt, we stand for the Jews living in the land.
SPEAKER 17 :
Period. We're almost out of time, but I think we're in a new day as we've talked about. New Middle East. Post-October the 7th, people understand that a two-state solution doesn't work. because that was tried in de facto in Gaza. That's what that was, essentially a two-state solution. It didn't work. It was a launchpad for terrorism. I think we're seeing some of the tribal leaders in Judea and Samaria.
SPEAKER 25 :
Five sheikhs out of Hebron.
SPEAKER 17 :
Are saying, hey, let us be a part of Abraham Accords. We'll recognize Israel. We want to live in peace. We don't want the Palestinian Authority. So I think there is a different way forward than what's been tried in the past.
SPEAKER 25 :
And they're not asking to own a piece of Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu was very clear this week. He said Israel will retain sovereignty over its security. That means they control the land. That's God's plan. And so President Trump, we call on him to support the Jewish people living in their land. End of story. Full stop. Nothing further is required.
SPEAKER 17 :
Michelle Bachman, we're out of time. I want to thank you for joining us. Always great to have you in the program. And thank you for serving as board chair of FRC.
SPEAKER 25 :
It's an honor.
SPEAKER 17 :
And folks, I want to encourage you to be praying. I mean, this is something we cannot take our eyes off of and our prayers away from. We have to continue to pray. This administration continues to make the right decision as it pertains to Israel, along with a host of other issues. But for today, we're out of time. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, when you've prepared, and when you've done everything else, just keep standing.
SPEAKER 06 :
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A Fox News report revealed a massive investigation into former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan for possibly lying to Congress about President Donald Trump and the Russian hoax. What will the new DOJ under FBI Director Kash Patel uncover? The Sekulow team discusses the irony that Comey and Brennan are under investigation for the same Russian probe that led to Trump's impeachment, the ACLJ's legal work – and much more.
SPEAKER 03 :
we got breaking news the fbi launches criminal investigation of john brennan and james comey keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110 And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sekulow. This is Logan Sekulow. Will Haynes is in studio with me. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us in the next segment. You'd think this was a rerun, but I'm going to tell you, a rerun from like five years ago. I'm just going to state the date, Will, so people know. You know, like when you hold up a newspaper? Right. July 9th, 2025. James Comey is the headline of the day because the FBI has decided maybe it's time we look into this. Actually start an investigation into what's going on with Russia and with James Comey and everything that played into it. Again, Comey don't play that. It's going to be a great show. Coming up next, my dad, Jay Sekul, is going to join us. But Will, why don't you go over that breaking news?
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. So we are now finding out that both the former CIA director, John Brennan, and the former FBI director, James Comey, are under criminal investigation. Whoa. The former CIA director, John Brennan, there was a criminal referral sent over to the Department of Justice by current CIA director, John Ratcliffe. They referred evidence of wrongdoing by Brennan to FBI director Kash Patel for potential prosecution. And sources have also said that there is an investigation into James Comey. Now, With James Comey, he was in the news with his 8647 seashells a few weeks ago.
SPEAKER 05 :
Always finds a way to work his way back in.
SPEAKER 04 :
This isn't about his seashells. Not yet.
SPEAKER 05 :
That'll be in five more years.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is about the Russiagate hoax that was perpetrated by John Brennan and James Comey. And we know that just a few days ago, right before the holiday, the 4th of July, the CIA declassified a review of the internal tradecraft that the CIA used in their review of the 2016 election. And they found a lot of issues. They found that there was a lot of abnormalities like John Brennan himself. Getting into that review, being normally directors and senior staff like that, look at the work product after. They don't become a part of that work product. There is an abbreviated timeline because the Obama administration wanted to get something out before President Trump took office. And things like John Brennan himself pushing for the inclusion of the Steele dossier, even at the protest of some of the other intelligence community members saying, So we've got this breaking news. They're under criminal investigation. There's some caution there, obviously, Logan, because... It's a source. It's a source. The FBI and DOJ don't normally talk about investigations. One of the anomalies to that was James Comey himself when he gave lots of primetime announcements about Hillary Clinton. He was always out there. We're going to see where this goes. We're going to get your dad's take in the next segment because obviously he lived through this and fought this for a long time. So we'll see what he has to say.
SPEAKER 05 :
He'll be on the next segment. And I'd like to hear from you. Do you think this is good? Do you think we just need to move on? What do you think? 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Should we be looking back at these situations and making sure people who are doing things unethically, unjustifiably are brought to justice, including people like James Comey and John Brennan? I think this is an interesting moment. Will and I were on the phone last night when this broke. You know, it's nice. It's nice we know what the topic's going to be, even a few hours before. Will was very giddy in telling me, lead topic, lead topic.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, when you get a criminal investigation of the former CIA director and former director of the FBI that pushed this Russia collusion hoax, yeah, I get excited to see justice may be served here.
SPEAKER 05 :
These guys are born for this. I mean, what kind of names? John Brennan, James Comey, Ratcliffe. I mean, John Ratcliffe. These are like... They feel like they're from the olden times, these names. They were meant to be CIA directors and FBI and intelligence. All right. Phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. My dad, Jay Sekulow, is joining us because not only are we going to talk about this, but we are celebrating 35 years of the ACLJ during our 35 years of Justice Drive. All donations... are effectively doubled right now. All you got to do is make a donation of any kind, and another ACLJ supporter or champion, someone that gives monthly, is going to unlock their pledged donation. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. My dad, Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ, and obviously someone who is deeply involved in this situation, is joining us for his commentary. Will, why don't you give us a little bit, like if people are just joining us, give us like a 30-second recap, and then let's get our thoughts.
SPEAKER 04 :
30-second recap is that there are sources telling Fox News that the former CIA Director John Brennan and former FBI Director James Comey are under criminal investigation for potential wrongdoing related to the Trump-Russia probe. In addition to that is that There was a criminal referral sent over by the current director of the CIA, John Ratcliffe, to the FBI about wrongdoing by Brennan. We don't have a lot of details. Obviously, the DOJ and the FBI don't comment publicly on investigations. This would be early stages of a criminal investigation. But let's go right to your dad. And just knowing what you know and what you lived through, do you think this is a long overdue investigation?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, let me tell you a couple things. Number one, if there's two lawyers in America that know something about the situation with Comey and Brennan, it's Jay Sekulow and Jordan Sekulow, because as you both said, we lived it. Look, I think this is long overdue. The question's going to be, is there an action that took place within the statute of limitations that would then justify going from a criminal investigation to a criminal prosecution. We know that the entire issue of the Steele dossier and the way they tried to basically shake down the then president-elect of the United States, we now know of course with the evidence that we gathered during the course of the impeachment proceedings and Bob Mueller's investigation, more particularly the Mueller investigation, we know that there was no violation of any law by the president. We know also that there was no collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign. That was the conclusion of Bob Mueller. Now here's the issue that is important. James Comey oversaw the fbi at a critical time it was during crossfire hurricane which was the first investigation we now know of the sitting president of the united states or then the president-elect and also uh the candidate remember though once he was elected president in 2016 it was james comey the FBI, James Brennan, and John Brennan, these others, that decided that they would meet with President-elect Trump and brief him on the discredited dossier. It was a shakedown. That's what it was. It was an attempt to intimidate a president. It was a move to try to curtail the president's initiatives by distraction. And we also know that James Comey leaked a memo that he prepared in a government vehicle about a conversation he had with the President of the United States and he leaked it to a law professor friend of his to get to the press. So should this be looked into criminally? You bet.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think a lot of people are commenting, saying, hey, is this a distraction? Is this something we need to actually be focusing on now? Should we just move on, let history tell the story and move on? But you're saying, no, that's not the way it should be. It should be looked into because these were egregious acts that happened time and time again. So you can't just let these things slide or whether it's a Republican or Democrat. these kind of moments from the FBI and the CIA can happen again.
SPEAKER 06 :
Look, James Comey has got a record of intervening in presidential elections. He did that also, remember, it's, I think, important to remember, he did it to Hillary Clinton with announcing an investigation opened, an investigation closed, and then reopened four days before the general election, none of which he had the authority to do. He did it around the Attorney General's back. So look, there's a whole host of issues that need to be looked at because what you cannot have are these rogue agents or rogue leaders trying to basically terminate, stop the actions of the duly elected
SPEAKER 05 :
president of the united states so what's the real consequences of this i think that's going to be a question too because look we're here james comey uh someone who we've known who who's never been really good at the final consequences he's always someone who tells you all the horrible things someone has done and then of course uh couldn't actually get anything done now we have the reverse here uh what should people be anticipating on what this investigation actually does look like in terms of a result okay so we should not hear about the investigation while it's ongoing
SPEAKER 06 :
What we should hear is that the conclusion of the investigation, if the Department of Justice decides to make a move for a grand jury in paneling and then a prosecution. Do I think there's evidence of it to move forward? I think there's certainly enough to take it to this investigatory stage. I suspect that there will be enough for the investigative stage to merge or morph into a prosecutorial stage. and then, of course, ultimately a trial. But they should be held with what they did. They tried to stop the government of the United States from operating according to the Constitution of the United States. So you bet they should be held accountable. And it's going to be, you know, the interesting thing is the Ratcliffe, his decision to make a referral to the FBI, which is within the Department of Justice, of course, that means he had seen something. I don't know this, obviously. But I'm just looking at it from a the referral coming. The reports indicate the referral came from the Department of Justice to the Department of Justice, rather from John Radcliffe over at the CIA. That tells me they saw something or he saw something that concerned him enough to know. that there has been a violation of the law and moving that to now a criminal stage.
SPEAKER 05 :
There is about three and a half years left in President Trump's term. Is this something that can get done in that? I know that sounds like a long time for a lot of people, but with the justice system, with the legal system, we know that's not always the case. Is this something that can get done within his term?
SPEAKER 06 :
Certainly the investigation, and if there's a grand jury impaneled and indicted, the answer to that is yes. Could it go to trial from this day forward, three years? Tough, unless the investigation is much further along than we anticipated. But remember, the previous administration indicted the former president of the United States. They've been trying to take this guy down for 10 years.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's one other angle as well. You mentioned that Comey admitted, even bragged about leaking that memo to the press. He bragged about sending spies in. I'm seeing a lot of comments from people on both Rumble and YouTube saying they remember you saying these very things back in real time when it was happening and calling out these specific actors. But in addition to the report of the criminal referral, John Ratcliffe, just a few days ago on July 2nd, released a declassified Intel Tradecraft review. And it gives a little bit of color to this because it appears John Brennan, either at the behest of the President of the United States, Barack Obama at the time, or on his own volition, got deep into this process in December after Trump was elected, before Trump would take office in that first term, and he was making decisions that were outside of CIA norms. And he was the one that insisted, even at the protest of other members of the intel community, of including the Steele dossier in this report. We've got about two minutes left, but I just want to get your take on that. Could that be an angle that maybe arose when they reviewed how this took place?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, certainly. I mean, we don't know the evidence of what they've seen or what new data they have gathered. But the nature of what happened justifies the investigation. There's no doubt about it. But remember this also. They were trying to take this guy down before he was elected. They were trying to take him down once he was elected. They were trying to take him down once he served in office. Then they did it all again and tried it again this time. It didn't work. Trying to remove him from ballots. So look, Comey and Brennan and a host of others. What they did was outrageous for the American people. It was a violation of the Constitution. And at the end of the day, this is why the ACLJ exists. We've been dealing with this up front for seven years. It took that long to get attention to it now. I'm glad we did. I've been saying, if you went back and traced how long I've been saying this, it would be almost a decade, eight years, seven, eight years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Dan, I wanted to bring that up because, of course, this month is our 35 years of Justice Drive. Our match, our donations are doubled right now during this month because we are celebrating 35 years. And this is just another example about how the ACLJ team members, not just the donors and supporters, but also people like you and like Jordan and like so many of others, have been involved on the front lines, whether that is for people who have a Bible club they want to make sure they can have in schools or representing the President of the United States.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, look, I mean, it was an incredible time in our nation's history. And the ACLJ, if you look back on it, whether it's President Trump or other times, we've been there for all the major events globally. So your support of the ACLJ right now, as we celebrate 35 years of working for justice around the globe, to do it. To support the work of the ACLJ, your donation will be doubled. Do it today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much, Dad, for joining us. We're going to have a packed show, lots of other guests joining us throughout the next half hour, so stay tuned. We do have a few lines open for you still at 1-800-684-3110. Kerry, Gary, and Steve, stay on hold. We're going to get to you, but again, three lines are open, 1-800-684-3110. You've heard about the incredible work our team has been doing around the world. for so many years, now so many decades. Be a part of that team as well. Celebrate with us 35 years of justice and help us get to 35 more years. Go to ACLJ.org. Your donations are doubled. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. But Will, you wanted to cover something or you want to wait?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think we can do this real quick before we get to the callers. So we talked yesterday about this lawsuit by Planned Parenthood and the temporary restraining order that the judge granted for two weeks on the defunding of Planned Parenthood. It's something our lawyers are focused on. They're writing a brief right now for us to be able to get into that case as well. But the Planned Parenthood attorneys filed yesterday a brief with the court on the restraining order asking for it to basically extend the temporary restraining order and move back the preliminary injunction hearing because one of their attorneys out of nine had a schedule conflict with the hearing date. And then the government, the attorneys for the United States filed and said, this is ridiculous. Like you're basically wanting more time under the temporary restraining order, which can be issued without any rationale from the judge to get more time. This doesn't fall under any legal norm. And so we're sitting here thinking, as I'm talking with our attorneys this morning, they're thinking, well, the way the judge has already laid things out, knowing some of the earlier rulings on funding and the injunctions she had put in place, that this may be something where she grants this to the Planned Parenthood attorneys and say, OK, yeah, I'll give you extra time under the TRO. Well, the Trump attorneys or the government attorneys rather argued, said, hey, if they have a schedule conflict, move it forward to the 18th instead of the 21st. So it won't affect the attorney's schedule. Just in the original briefing schedule can stay the same. But let's have our hearing early. This just happened. This is entered into the docket that the judge has said that the hearing is now rescheduled for July 18th. Moved it up, called Planned Parenthood's bluff to some level, and also agreed with the government attorneys. Okay, fine. If you have a scheduling conflict... I'm not going to extend my TRO. I'm going to shorten it effectively by having the hearing early.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe that means there is some hope for Massachusetts. That's good. That's great news, in fact, that we can get this done hopefully sooner than later. Now let's take some calls. Phone lines are open for you. We've got four lines open. I'd love to hear from you. We've got a second half hour coming up after this segment. We're going to take calls throughout that as well as have special guest Mike Pompeo joining us. But let's first go to Steve in Texas. Steve, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good afternoon, gentlemen. I'm happy to talk to you.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm going to throw you back on hold for a minute. Let's check Steve's line. I like your comment, so if for some reason we can't get to you, call me back. But let's check Steve, make sure his quality is good enough to get on the air. I'm sorry, though, for that. Let's go to Carrie in Montana, who's an ACLJ champion. She should have gone first anyway. He should have gone first. You broke your rule.
SPEAKER 01 :
I know.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was my fault. I didn't see that. Carrie, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 01 :
Happy anniversary, brothers and sisters. Anyway... I definitely agree with Jay and Jordan and Logan that you guys have lived through this James Comey and others nightmare. And believe it or not, there's some of us clowns, if you get my drift, ACLJ champions, partners. We've also been fighting some FBI and corrupt officials that we believe are terrorists. And so I may be filling out a form pretty soon since this is going to open another can of worms. I think every official in every state that has been in some way or another corrupt and doing police blackmail and other things, they need to be taken down. They need to be investigated as well. I don't care how small or how big.
SPEAKER 05 :
Gary, Will, I can tell you got something.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I was going to say, that is also part of, if you follow Dan Bongino, and he's very transparent on X with updates of, one, the timelines, because a lot of people are like, okay, why haven't people been let go? Why haven't some of the corruption been cleaned up? He gives periodic updates of, here's where we're at, remember. I was just confirmed at this point. Kash Patel was only confirmed a little bit before me. When you have a bureaucracy as big as the FBI and with bad actors and deep state officials that lived with the cover of people like James Comey for so long, that's not something you can walk in on day one, flip a switch and completely clean out corruption within a bureaucracy. And I would say that's the same across the government. It's a fight. You have to fight against people that have the protection of some of the laws that protect government officials and the hiring practices that they can hide behind in order to say, oh, I feel like you're retaliating against me just because I worked under a previous administration. So it takes time. And unlike some people that seem to be a little fair weather with the picks that are wonderful picks to lead these agencies, realize the task at hand. Realize what James Comey was doing. And then Chris Wray did really nothing to clean up in the follow of that. There were the director of the FBI sent spies into the White House. A covert op into the White House. And his excuse was, because I could. Because they weren't ready for me yet. That is like bordering on a coup. If someone in a bureaucracy thinks I can go and do whatever I want in this government because they're not ready.
SPEAKER 05 :
I could leave documents to my friends in the press.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
They'll take care of it. And I'm not going to have any consequences. Well, this is what happens. President changes back. And you have that. I do see a lot of clowns now showing up in the chat. So you know what? She mentioned the clowns. Of course, that was a reference. What, Governor Hochul? Yes. Who called Trump supporters clowns back during the campaign. Of course, we did a whole send in the clowns, I would say, every day. So you know what? Let's send in those clowns again. Just for old time's sake, let's do it. She did say Christian clowns. That made me think of a whole different thing. uh group there is there is a subculture clowning my buddy rob who you know listens every day he was a christian clown maybe still is let's go to uh quickly let's try this one more time let's go to steve in texas online too steve you're on the air thank you sir i just wanted to comment real quick on brandon comey i think it's a yes they should be investigated but i think the more important investigation should be in a
SPEAKER 08 :
is the Epstein files, bringing those people to justice that misused and mistreated and abused children and women. I think that's very important.
SPEAKER 05 :
Steve, it's all over the comments. It's all over the comments. I'm looking at our chat. A lot of people are saying, hey, this is fine. We can go after Comey. We can do what we need to do here. But let's not forget about the Epstein files. Now, when President Trump was addressed about it yesterday, he kind of dismissed it and said, why are we still talking about this guy? Of course, that opened a whole other can of worms with people feeling that there was more controversy to this than there is. You know, I don't know where we're at with that, Steve, because I do have some trust in a Pam Bondi. I do have trust in Kash Patel and Dan Bongino in this group. I actually really like this group. Do I think it's always going to be as clear and as transparent as we'd like? No, but I think that's probably what you find out when you work in the federal government. But this one seems to keep coming back up. And I certainly, again, see it in the comments. People's concerned about it. That's right. And we only have, what, 50 seconds here at the end of the segment.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks to pitch to me, Logan.
SPEAKER 05 :
If you're an Epstein person, that means stay tuned. We'll cover it in the next segment as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right, because this is something I've actually followed personally. Too closely. Too closely. We can get into that. But, Steve, keep listening because we'll get more into that in the next segment because I have some thoughts I'd like to share on it as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Second half hour coming up. If you don't get us on your local station, find us broadcasting live every day, 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. So we got another half hour. That's at ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble. Of course, later on on the podcast feed, you can find us wherever you need. But we encourage you to watch us live, be a part of the chat, be a part of the conversation. Of course, you can give us a call because we celebrate 35 years of justice. That also includes this broadcast, which has been on the air of that 35 years, I believe close to 25 plus years of that, maybe more so, I believe since 1996. So you know what? We're about to celebrate 30 years of this show next year. Another celebration. So give today, have your donations doubled. keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo and now your host logan secular phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 as we have a second full half hour of this broadcast coming up of course coming out of that segment we were talking for a caller that came in talking a bit about jeffrey epstein of course the epstein files and everything that that's kind of going on in the last 24 hours but that is on the heels of the conversation we had of whether you think this is worth time investigating, as there's been an announcement that the FBI, or not official announcement yet, sources have claimed the FBI is launching a criminal investigation of John Brennan and James Comey about the Russia hoax, the dossier, everything that was involved in that, and all of the potentially illegal behavior that went on behind the scenes. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. But our last caller called in and said, hey, I think they need to be brought to justice. I think they do it. But hey, let's not get distracted from what's going on with Epstein. Now, when Epstein was brought up, President Trump yesterday, he dismissed it and said, we're still talking about this creep. What are we doing here? This has been a decade. We don't need to worry about this anymore. Will, I know you, like I said, got pretty involved in following this case. And now it kind of got to a breaking point yesterday. or the last couple days, where the administration is saying, hey, a lot of that information you want just simply doesn't exist.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and I think, one, you have to think about they're looking at the evidence that previous FBIs and previous U.S. attorneys had compiled for a trial against Jeffrey Epstein. So, one, if they're saying the evidence that the people want, that there's a broader conspiracy of blackmail and things of those natures, if the previous regime was not investigating that... There is a good chance that does not exist. So you cannot create evidence out of thin air. It's not like they have been doing their own investigation on someone who is no longer alive. That would maybe, maybe there are departments and you wouldn't talk about an ongoing investigation. But I think, Saying that Pam Bondi, who did a bad PR move early by going on TV and doing that, that she is compromised, that Kash Patel is compromised, that Dan Bongino is compromised. I think people need to listen to themselves sometimes and think they are some of the best people. parts of this cabinet, of this team, of this leadership, in that the things that you may want may not exist because of who did the investigation, but also when she says, I can't release more, the nature of the crime itself... The evidence of him perpetrating those crimes. Yeah, himself. You cannot release to the public because of victims, because of laws that govern material about minors. That is what you also have to realize, that there are tens of thousands of things they cannot show you and should never show you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, there was the reference of like, it's on my desk, and I think that was the concern, but I actually understood, I feel like, and again, I'm not just here as a Pam Bondi apologist, but her saying, it's on my desk right now, she meant the files, not necessarily the list, not necessarily there even was a list, just that she had it as something that she was looking into that was on her desk. I understood what she meant when she said it. So now to say, yeah, that list doesn't exist. I understand how that can feel like you're speaking out of two sides of your mouth here at the same time. But I think I kind of understood it and I understand where we are right now. I also never fully anticipated there to be this list that people wanted to in their minds. It's like when they got all the JFK files, they expected there to be like a one paragraph summary that just said, here's who did it. Right. And it's not who you think it is. And it's like, that's not how this all works. You got to get in your mind. Look, I think that's one of the reasons I told you that I think Elon had his issues and the reason he started his own political party is because you get inside of Washington and realize it's simply not how it all works. We only have one minute left in this segment. Ronald, stay on hold. We're going to get to you later on in the show. Bradley, also phone lines are open. Mike Pompeo is going to be joining us in the next segment. 1-800- 1-800-684-3110. As Will said, I don't think this is a time to lose hope in a lot of these people. These are some of the best of the best that we can have. So again, 1-800-684-3110. I encourage you also to go to ACLJ.org. We are just what? How many days in, Will? What day is this?
SPEAKER 04 :
It's the 9th of June. The 9th of July. 9th of July.
SPEAKER 05 :
So we are not quite halfway through our ACLJ 35 years of justice drive. Of course, we're going to be celebrating 35 years of the ACLJ for the rest of the year, but this is the big moment. I encourage you, if you ever thought about supporting the work of the ACLJ or you thought about doing it this year, these are the months that really, really can impact our future because we have those pledges, those matches ready to go with any donation made. Scan the QR code, go to ACLJ.org. Mike Pompeo coming up. Welcome back to Seculo. It's a great show today. We've been packed. We've been talking about a lot of topics. We had my dad, Jay Seculo, join us. Now we have Secretary Pompeo, Mike Pompeo, joining us. Will, I'm going to let you kick off this with some questions for Secretary Pompeo, because these are some interesting days, and it feels like every 24 hours, we always know what we're going to be leading with. Will, the stories kind of break, and this one is the one we've been talking about all day, and another person... who really I'm sure has invaluable commentary on this, Secretary Pompeo.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. So we found out last night that the FBI is investigating both James Comey as well as the former CIA director, John Brennan. That's a title that our esteemed colleague here also shares his former CIA director. While we don't know too much about the details of this, and that's as it should be, because when there's an investigation, typically the DOJ and FBI should not be talking about an ongoing investigation. But it's allegedly about their role in the Russiagate matter, the probe into collusion between President Trump and Russia. What are your initial thoughts when you saw this break?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, my initial thoughts, Will, were that I was unsurprised in the following sense. Director Brennan, John Brennan, who was the CIA director immediately before me, had deeply politicized this thing that became known as the ICA. It was associated with an investigation and some data and then the Steele dossier that the FBI had found under Director Comey. And they had created a process that was very unusual. They had put some people on it that were outside the normal process. And then they had gone to the White House with this information when it was way too preliminary to have done so. And then they ultimately published it, which is also very unusual. The CIA usually does analysis and analytics and provides that to decision makers in a classified setting. And instead, they chose to go public with this at a very critical time around the election. And so I don't know what they'll find ultimately, but I do hope that they complete this investigation in a way that is not politicized, but deeply, deeply reported. reported and well done, and that the FBI and DOJ will do their best to make what they can of this public. And if there are prosecutable offenses, that they will do that as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
You mentioned that ICA, the Intelligence Community Assessment, which is what kicked everything off. And that was the work product post-election in 2016, but before the transition from the Obama presidency to the Trump presidency. And Director Ratcliffe put out a declassified statement internal tradecraft review of that work product just a few days ago, and it showed anomalies in the way that the CIA would typically produce a work product like that, including the director himself being very heavily involved, not listening to dissents when it came to some of the opinions that were in there. When you look at something like that, and obviously you have a lot more knowledge than you can probably share on air when it comes to even the workings of this. But is that an important transparency, being able to share something like that? Or is it once again something that the CIA should be more closely guarded about?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm very comfortable with what Director Rackbluff released. I think he did so in a very careful fashion, a very thoughtful fashion. The Intelligence Committee has an obligation where it can share information with the public. It ought to. And when it can't, it has to protect it vigorously and prosecute people who violate that. idea of confidentiality or classification. And so I think Director Ratcliffe is in a very measured way trying to make clear to the American people that he's working on this project and that he'll do his best to release the results. But let's be certain of this, that what came out when that ICA was ultimately released by the Obama administration at an unclassified level It was intentional. It was intended to undermine the Trump presidency. I wrote in my book about the fact that Director Comey briefed President Trump on January 6th of 2017. I remember the date expressly now that January 6th has become such a big deal. January 6th, 2017, and essentially told President Trump that we have information that suggests that you are a Russian asset or too close to the Russians. That was not true. The Steele dossier has proven to be nearly wholly fabricated, and it set back our administration greatly. And that is a, at the very least, a failure of the intelligence community, the FBI and the CIA, but in the worst case, an intentional politicization of it. And if it's the latter, the individuals who did that need to be held accountable.
SPEAKER 04 :
You also mentioned just even the trust in these intelligence agencies that we saw suffer, one through the end of the Obama presidency, and then under others in the previous administration. Yes. But I wanted to get your take on this because I remember very distinctly when you became the director of the CIA, you said the CIA, something to the effect of the CIA is getting back to secrets and kind of refocusing the mission on what the purpose of the CIA is. And do you think... And I'm sure you have many thoughts on this and could probably write another book just on the shift in the IC from protecting secrets and doing espionage and things of that nature and becoming this political machine. Do you think that is expressly why the public has lost so much trust in the IC community between the Obama years and the Biden years as well?
SPEAKER 09 :
I absolutely do 100% believe that when these organizations stray from their mission, right, to protect us all, right? The FBI's mission is to keep criminals off the street and to protect us from foreign espionage and the The CIA's job is to get good intelligence so presidents and secretaries of defense can make good decisions. When they walk away from that mission, when they say, we're not going to take any risk, we're not going to go out and do espionage, we're not going to keep secrets, we're instead going to go engage in political behavior. And we saw this, by the way, we saw this with the 100-byte laptop. We saw the same characters, Clapper and Comey and Brennan. We saw these same characters go sign a document that was fatly false. Right. And they knew they knew it was intended to mislead. So President Biden could succeed in his debate, had a talking point in his debate. When when they engage in that kind of behavior, these institutions lose the trust and credibility that they need to perform a vital American function. And they will be you know, they will be limited in what they could do because American people said, we just don't we have no confidence in you. And that's really dangerous if they're out. They perform important functions. They should stay focused on their mission. And when they lose that, the American people will rightly come to doubt them and ultimately restrict them from their ability to perform their mission.
SPEAKER 04 :
One final question for you today, as I know the work you did was trying to restore one, the core mission, but also the trust as well. And I know that Director Ratcliffe shares that same vision of restoring the good work as well as the public trust. What else can be done? for not obviously with Tradecraft, with the things that the work they're already doing, but to re-engage the American public to have trust in these institutions. Because many times the work getting back to it, when you're doing it right, No one will ever know about the good work that the CIA does and these intelligence community agencies perform. So you kind of have this competing interest when doing the right thing means people don't know what you're doing. How do you think we can start to rebuild the trust in many of these institutions?
SPEAKER 09 :
I have a number of thoughts. I'd begin with this. It's very important that individuals who violate that trust, who behave in ways that are inconsistent with what they're supposed to be doing, are held accountable. And I'm not talking about just junior people who make a mistake or what have you. Fine, they should be held accountable too. But in the end, the political appointees, the folks that the President of the United States appoint have to be held accountable if they do that. And so I hope that what Director Ratcliffe will be able to achieve It's sufficient transparency to demonstrate real accountability. And then second, you're right. Sometimes you just have to keep your head down and nobody knows the good work you're doing. That's the nature of the work these institutions perform. But then they also have the obligation when they can and when it's appropriate to share with the American people what they're doing, why they do it, how they do it, how this accountability is built into the system. And when you do that, people will come to trust these remarkable young men and women who risked their lives on the streets to keep us safe in the United States for the FBI and then doing this abroad for the Central Intelligence Agency.
SPEAKER 05 :
Secretary Pompeo, thank you so much for joining us. Of course, Senior Counsel for Global Affairs here at the ACLJ. We couldn't have invaluable voices like Secretary Pompeo. I mean, you're talking about people who were in the trenches, who have been a part of this, who know really what it's like. I always want to make sure we have people like that on our team who can educate you as to what actually happens behind the scenes instead of you trying to guess and figure out, like I said, the government does not run like a business. It does not run how you expect it. It runs in a very different way. But when you have people, whether that's Secretary Pompeo or Rick Grinnell or my dad, Jay Sekulow, joining us earlier, you get all these perspectives that have been inside of it and understand it better than any commentator you're ever going to hear. We can't have those people on our team without your support at ACLJ.org. But phone lines are open for you right now. We have three lines open. I encourage you to call in. I want to hear from you. We've just heard from, again, former Secretary of State, former head of CIA, Mike Pompeo. You heard from my dad, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ. You heard from Will Haynes. Now I want to hear from the most important voice in the room. And that, of course, is you. So phone lines are open. We're going to take as many calls as we can. This is the time. 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back with the last segment of the day. back to secular i do want to hear from you and we still have three lines open but we have three lines that means taken as well 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the air today thousands of you are watching on just our social media platforms alone on just uh platforms like youtube and rumble so i know you're watching so if you want to call in great time to do it if you are watching on youtube by the way and we know about half the people that watch have never seen us before which is wild you may be watching us live or later on hit that subscribe button Over half a million people have done that. Know how important that is for us. It's a great free way to support the organization. Now, obviously, when you make a donation right now, it's matched. So that's an incredible time to make a financial donation. But if you're brand new and you don't know anything about us, maybe it's the first time you've seen me or Will or our team here, know we do this show each and every day from 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. And, of course, we put out other incredible content. Our media team is top-notch. They put out great content throughout the day, every day. So be a part of that team. Easy way to do it. Subscribe. I don't know. Do people still ring the bell? Is that still a thing? You can ring the bell.
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That'll tell you when we put up a new video or when we go live. That really helps out. And we love seeing that number grow. We're halfway to a million. I'd love to see us cross that million. Understand when you have even an audience. And look, we have millions that watch already. That's what I'm saying. Half of you don't subscribe. That is bigger numbers than a lot of your major media. We're able to create this new alt media because of people like you who want a different perspective. They want people who are going to tell them the truth, and that is what we do here. Whether you like that truth or not, we will always tell you the truth. Let's go to Ronald in South Carolina, watch it on Rumble, one of our favorite free speech platforms. I met a family in the UK. The first questions they asked me was, hey, you guys on Rumble? It's making still some big waves across the country and around the world. Let's go to Ronald. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, thanks for taking my call. I enjoyed the show, and especially right now from all of the things that are literally coming to light and having to sit on hands and just waiting to finally see the house of cards crumble with all those like Comey and Brennan and all these others in the swamp just literally trying to destroy Trump and everything. And so I see that certainly there is a change coming, but yet... Maybe you can comment on this, but yet there are those liberals who are still there saying, well, as far as I'm concerned, the end justifies the means. And I was okay with what they were doing just to keep Trump out of the office and stuff like that. Keep things as they were.
SPEAKER 04 :
very much rhetoric that was going around well i mean it's the double standard you're seeing even now when it comes to some of these supreme court decisions that when they say they want to protect our democracy what they mean is they want to protect their political party and in the ideas and ideologies that they push they don't want to protect The Constitution. And so when it goes back to a lot of this, this is kind of the roots of when you really saw the deep state or the subversion of our constitutional norms become put on full display for a lot of people. It roots back to this when they decided, you know what? We can throw out all the rules as long as it achieves our ends. And that is not American constitutionalism.
SPEAKER 05 :
I see a lot of comments coming in. This is going to end up being another nothing burger. That's what's going to happen. That's what always happens. It is easy, Will, to get... you know, jaded in this. You think that these investigations are always going to lead towards nothing because it does feel that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and remember what your dad said as well earlier in the show. One of the biggest blessings that people like Brennan and Comey got was the issues and abnormalities in the 2020 election, whether it be the whole country shut down or whatnot, that Joe Biden became the president of the United States. because it put enough distance between them from the time so what we don't know what's in the investigation and that's good we shouldn't know while they're investigating but if they can and they can prosecute these people then and there is the evidence to do so and a grand jury returns an indictment that is a good thing for the country but one of those things when you have that four-year gap and that pushes out beyond the statute of limitations for
SPEAKER 05 :
many of the things that could be brought against them we don't know what they are we don't know when they're alleging it happened but if there is something that can be prosecuted i think that would be good for the country all right let's continue on taking calls hey last time you can call and be right now we just lost a call that was on hold for a very long time and i feel bad but that means there's a line open for you right now 1-800-684-3110 we'll try to get you up very quickly tom in california watching on youtube go ahead tom
SPEAKER 07 :
Howdy, folks. Appreciate everything y'all do. God bless you. I'd like to say God bless those poor victims in Texas from the flooding. Point is, we need to investigate all this corruption that's gotten really bad ever since Clinton. Go back to Clinton and Obama and bring it forward and pursue it. Therefore, Comey is arrogant and pompous about his corruption. He needs to be taken down. And if I could say this, I would appreciate it if you folks would do a week-long or however long you think is appropriate series on explaining the swamp to us that don't fully understand it because it's just a nasty place. But that's all. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you so much for calling. It's not a bad idea because I think we start, we use a lot of vernacular, a lot of terms. I always try to slow Will down when he starts throwing out a TRO and I'm like, most people don't understand some of these terms. But again, the sort of swamp of Washington, D.C., I've always been talking about it. Rick Grinnell talks about it a lot. You hear about it because when you've worked there, when you've been there, when you've lived it and you're maybe, I don't know, somewhat normal, you start realizing how it's being run and how murky it can be and how dark it can be. And it's unfortunate that that is where we're at in society. And I really think when you have a lot of these people like an Elon Musk or someone who gets in these systems, they think it should be operating the way, I don't know, a billion dollar, multi-billion dollar business operates. And it doesn't. It operates in its own unique universe. But you're right. Maybe we should break that down more. And look, we only got a couple minutes left in the broadcast today. I want to thank everyone who's been watching and everyone who's been supporting the work. We have spent, like I said, 35 years on working on the incredible topics here at the ACLJ. And we have a lot of fun here. We're also able to keep you entertained, hopefully, and keep you informed because this kind of information, you're not going to find anywhere else. Will just said in the last segment, where else? What other show? And whether you love Secretary Pompeo or you don't, what other show are you going to have 11 minutes of unfiltered conversation with a former Secretary of State, former head of the CIA, who can really give you an inside look into what's happening? And I mean, that is pretty remarkable.
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