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The episode expertly intertwines these discussions with the mentioning of sponsors dedicated to truth and wellbeing, like Preborn and SunPower LED. The segment discusses the growth of misinformation and highlights the critical role these organizations play in countering lies, providing support to expectant mothers, and promoting alternatives to conventional medicine. The conversation veers toward how bias can cloud judgment, making individuals susceptible to false narratives, and offers practical advice on maintaining credibility. Listeners are encouraged to actively engage in verifying the authenticity of online content, providing them with practical tools and thought-provoking examples. It’s a call-to-action to uphold integrity and truth in a world where digital deception is just a click away.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the National Crawford Roundtable podcast, a view of culture, current events, and politics through a biblical lens brought to you by Preborn, saving babies and souls. Join us in the fight to save babies from abortion. Your gift provides a free ultrasound for a mother in need. 80% of the time she will choose life. Visit CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on the Preborn logo to donate to save babies now. and by SunPower LED light therapy devices. Bring light to your pain. Visit CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on the SunPower LED logo to get out of pain and improve your overall wellness. And now, here are your hosts, Neil Boron, Bob Duco, and John Rush.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to another edition of the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, John Rush, out of Denver, Colorado. My show, Rush to Reason. Normally, Bob Duco from Detroit, Michigan, is with us at the Bob Duco Show, but he is off this week. Neil Boron, though, with me today from Buffalo, New York. Neil Boron, live. Hello, Neil. How are you, sir?
SPEAKER 04 :
John, doing well, and just got back from vacation literally two hours ago.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
Literally just pulled in the driveway, so... Just throwing you right into it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, Bob's slacking this week, I guess. You were off last week.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was off last week, so yeah, kind of that time of the... Well, just as a side note for me, I told my audience this the other day. For me, and most people, if you don't know this, I'll give everybody a little tidbit. If you don't have kids, this is easier, of course, Neil, but the... One of the slowest times of the year for resorts is May up until Memorial Day weekend. So if you want to travel and go anywhere, your volume of people and deals is always much better this time of the year than it is any other.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And hence our five-day getaway.
SPEAKER 03 :
There you go. That's exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Love it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. All right. So we're going to get into the podcast. Got several things that we want to discuss today. And one of the things that I really want to get into initially here, Neil, and I know we kind of were communicating back and forth on this, and I talked about this on my program. a little bit yesterday and i want to spend a little bit of time here because i think it's really really important for people to now be more diligent than ever and what i mean by that is there is so much information that's coming at us neil and i you we were just talking about that a little bit off air before we you know before we started the the podcast today there's so much stuff out there and folks that are listening uh ai has now come into play. And AI, again, I look at it as any other tool. It can be used for good. It can be used for bad. It's true with anything that's out there in life. And reality is I am not any way, shape, or form against AI. I think there's lots of things that it will do in the business world and other things by the way that will at the end of the day help all of us and even help us out as a country economically speaking and so on all that being said though neil i think we need to really be careful with ai on what is real versus what isn't and i will tell you ai has gotten to the point with some of their pictures and videos and quality and the way that the mouth will even move in the video and so on to where it's getting extremely extremely difficult to determine is something real or not. And I'll give a quick example. And in Canada, they've got a new prime minister and there is a video floating around of the new prime minister talking about, I'm a car guy, so it's talking about vehicles and he's banning, you know, pre-2000 model year vehicles and window tint and lifted vehicles and all sorts of things it gets into. And As you watch the video, I mean, it is literally, it's as real as real can be. You look at this and just think, wow, okay. And because, and this is where I'm going with this, because I think a lot of us, especially when it comes to those that are on the far extreme of where we are, Neil, you look at some of that and think, okay, yeah, that's believable. Yeah, I could see that that would be something that that particular individual may do. And so you kind of start to believe that, well, yeah, in fact, that's exactly what He said, well, for me, it's like, okay, wait a minute. Before I repeat any of this, especially in you and I's world, Neil, I want to make sure that we're very accurate in the things that we talk about. So I did a little bit of a search, took me less than 30 seconds. And it's like, oh, that's a deep fake. All that was created by AI. He never said any of that. And my point is, because of our our bias and the way that we view things at times, Neil, we kind of get into this mode where something like that comes out. We fully start to believe it. And pretty soon we've got ourselves in trouble because we're repeating something and sharing something that just isn't true.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I think, honestly, you're 100% right, by the way. And I think that our biases come into play. And what I mean by that is that sometimes we want to believe something so badly that when we see something that kind of looks like it supports, you know, the narrative we've clung to or what our, you know, inner beliefs are that, you know, we're more willing to jump at it. And, you know, I've given the example a number of times here on the program. But, you know, when my mom, you know, well, let me, this is probably not the best example. Well, I'll share it anyway. My mom was not a fan of abuse in marriage and had been in two abusive marriages before she met my dad. She was very young, very foolish, whatever. But she had been literally physically harmed by people. So one time, watching a film that Farrah Fawcett made famous called The Burning Bed. Right. Right. Where she had had enough of, you know, domestic violence and lit her husband on fire, poured gasoline on the bed and lit it on fire. My mom actually got, you know, like pleasure out of that. And I said, Mom, like, what are you doing? You're a Christian. I was only like 20 years old at the time. I was home from school break. She was watching this movie. And I said, this is like totally counter to our values. She just murdered her husband. Yeah. But he kind of deserved it.
SPEAKER 02 :
He deserved it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And then there was another time that, you know, you know some kind of a fake email was flying around about obama and she was not a fan of obama now my mom's home with jesus today but um she forwarded it and i showed her evidence that it was completely false it was completely made up and that was in the days when email scams were a big deal now obviously we've got the deep fake videos and things that are way more sophisticated but the point is her comment to me at the end of that and i'm not trying to throw my mom under the bus i'm just saying she's somebody who loved deeply cared deeply fought hard you know for what was right and after coming to faith in Jesus, just really couldn't stand the wiles of the enemy and the deceit and the tactics that the enemy uses to bring confusion and stuff. And God isn't the author of confusion. But she fought me on that. I said, mom, it's fake. You just sent out something that was a lie. In other words, you feel good about spreading a lie. So all I'm saying is that we're human beings and whether we're believers or not, we have tendencies to fall into certain camps We want to see our narratives supported. We want to feel like we're on the right track with things. So all of a sudden something comes along and we're unwilling to really look into it. And John, you're right to take time to look into things. You know, I went to journalism school at Boston University, studied communications there and journalism 101. It's, you know, check your sources. Like if something comes across your desk, make sure you check to make sure that it's, you know, get get a second look. eyewitness gets some second verification that it's true. And one other thing real quick, one time somebody we know and love sent us something on Facebook Messenger, a private message, oh my gosh, the world's on fire, whatever it was. And And it's a horrible thing, and this is happening, and you need to share this with everybody. Get everybody praying because someone's in the hospital right now. They're dying, whatever. It was that type of a thing. Well, we know this person. Like, this is a close personal friend. So we put it on Facebook. Hey, everybody pray. And then, like, five minutes later, we got a thing saying, I'm sorry. I forwarded it to you without checking. So that's how we got it. And because I didn't check and you didn't check, all of a sudden we were posting – Now with the sophistication of AI, this is way easier to fall into that kind of a trap and we need to be vigilant.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and that leads us into our sponsors, Neil, Preborn, SunPower, LED, because by the way, this happens on both sides of the aisle. I'm going to talk more about this when we come back here in a moment, but it happens on both sides of the aisle. It happens on the abortion issue. We'll talk about SunPower because frankly, Neil, there's some things there that I think is affected by this as well. But on the preborn side, on the abortion side, Neil, we know that the other side spreads lie after lie after lie to the point where they have spread some of these lies for so long that people on that side of the aisle believe them. It's just tissue. The baby's not a baby until it's actually out of the womb. And some of these things, Neil, that are just flat out wrong, they're lies. They've got their side believing in it. It's no different than some of the things that happen on our side, which again, we're going to do our best to correct some of that today and get people to be a little more vigilant. But the reality, folks, is pre-born babies is doing everything they possibly can to counter those lies that the left puts out that, you know, hey, it's not a baby. Well, they do ultrasound images that actually prove that, yes, in fact, it is. In fact, that baby is moving. It's sucking its thumb. It's doing all sorts of things inside of the womb at a very early age. And when I say very early age, Neil, I mean that on purpose, because you and I believe that from the point of conception on, that is a That is a baby. Now, where does it become viable outside of the womb? Well, with technology, it continues to get younger and younger and younger all the time. That's the other lie that the left will say is, well, that's not a viable baby. Well, I've seen even with my own two eyes and I've got an employee that works for me that we had one delivered at about four months and it has lived in doing. He has lived and is doing very well to this day. So the reality, Neil, is, yes, preborn is out there countering the lies that are from the left. They do that with your support, though, folks. They can't do it on their own. They do this with your support. And I'll just tell you, put your money where your mouth is. I talk about that a lot when I fill in for Bob on Preborn. But the reality is, please do that. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, support Preborn. Do it the best that you can because they literally are out there changing that narrative, Neal. And they're saving babies' lives. And I say it all the time, too. They're saving the lives of the entire family in some cases, Neal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And this might be a prime example of what we're talking about today, where, excuse me, technology can be used for good, because this kind of technology is exposing the lies of the enemy. And praise God for Preborn and the work that they're doing to show just exactly what is going on inside the womb. And, you know, there's a lot of narratives out there. I was you know utterly dangerous and it was it had killed some people no no question about it but that masks were going to work and that social distancing worked and everyone had to be vaccinated we were told all these things only to find out that that was part of a larger narrative really and basically none of it was true people lost their jobs over this and it really utterly shut down businesses and destroyed lives well uh what we really need by and large is truth and we don't always get truth from the medical community and i'll tell you why because dollars are attached to it big pharma wants you to believe that they have a pill that can fix anything and all you need is the medications and then when you're on medications you need medications to manage the medications and then you need more medications to recover from the effects of the pills that manage the medications it can get really bad sun power led is light that god himself created it's taking certain wavelengths of light and applying it to the human body to reduce pain, reduce swelling, reduce inflammation, and promote healing. An example would be a young guy named Caleb had a pickaxe accident, severed his ankle tendon. I can't even imagine. Doctors told him it was going to be six to nine months before he could walk again. but he used red light therapy from SunPower LED. It energizes the cells to do what cells were created to do, and that's to heal, to reduce pain and swelling and heal the body. And he was walking in four weeks. Didn't need any medication whatsoever. Unbelievable story, but just one of many uses. for red light therapy from sun power led and listen if you're not a fan of big pharma or medical community that at times has lined us then check out what sun power led can do you can find them uh at crawfordmediagroup.net just click on the logo sun power led it's right there next to pre-born john
SPEAKER 03 :
Great stuff. Appreciate you saying all that, Neil, because it's very true. And again, both of those sponsors huge in what we do here on a routine basis on the National Crawford Roundtable. So yeah, folks, please support them both the best you can. Back to, you know, just, and it's not just AI. I mean, that was kind of the the basis for this conversation, Neil, because it's getting so real, whether it be pictures, whether it be videos. I mean, it's getting so real, Neil, that even folks like you and I, I mean, as I was saying earlier with this particular video that showed the Prime Minister of Canada, it's like, wait a minute, I need to do a little bit more investigative work here. And what I mean by it's so real is there is no... How do I say this, Neil? The mouth moves exactly the way it's supposed to. There's no glitches. Everything is smooth. What they're doing is they're taking a clip of him, and they could do this even with you and I with our voices. AI listens to enough of his voice to where then all you do is type in what you want it to actually say, and it will come out and actually... make that video and say that, and it looks as real as real can be. And for those of you listening, what I want, what I'm trying to get at here is don't fall victim. Don't fall into the trap of sending things around and repeating things that frankly are not true. And the reason why I want to say that, especially on our side, Neil is it's, is when we do that we as conservatives when we do that as christians even when we do that and we send things around and propagate things that aren't true it's a black eye on us and it's like the kid you know you know the sky is falling the sky is falling well you know at some point in time something is going to come along that's real that we need to tell the world about but if we don't have any credibility left at the end of the day because all we do is send around lies we're not going to have that ability to actually spread the truth
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and you know, deception can be valuable. It can be a valuable tool in war, but it's like, it's the main thing that Satan brings our way, right? I mean, Satan himself disguises himself as an angel of light. Why? Because he can get followers of God, you know, to fall in line and believe that what he's saying is true. I think it's why the Bible says in 1 John 4 to test every spirit. It isn't just related to things, you know, like AI. But my point is, when somebody's telling you something or a situation, um, is unfolding, don't believe one witness. It's why the Bible encourages us to talk to two or three witnesses. Why? Because Satan operates in the realm of deception. And AI is not, like you said, doesn't mean it's inherently bad, but it can be easily used by the And to cause people of God, well-meaning people and perhaps even those who don't know him, who have good intentions to fall prey to some of these things. And what? And then we're playing into the enemy's hands because he's the one who comes to steal, kill and destroy. So, you know, he's getting his way through all that. And isn't it interesting that, you know, that really, honestly, AI obviously has some great applications. That's a wonderful thing. But this whole idea of having to double check everything actually adds to the burden. of what we do every single day. It isn't, it isn't like, oh, well I'll just do some research and then I'll do my radio show. No, I got to do research, then check that the research is accurate.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, then do the radio show. And, and, uh, And it adds to further distraction, and I think that's the big problem in my mind.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're right. You're right. And I want to mention that, again, I talked about this on my program yesterday. I had a great caller that called in, and the problem with a lot of this, Neal, is the confirmation bias, which, again, we all have. I think we have to do, and you and I especially in the radio world and what we do on a daily basis, have to keep our confirmation bias in check at all times because, again, there are some things that come out where – It's easy to believe that because in some cases, deep down in our hearts, we want to believe that's what's going on because it supports what we're doing, maybe even more so if in fact that were real. So then we'll look at that, we'll see that, we'll grab a hold of it, and we'll want to send that on to somebody else or we'll want to post that to our page or you and I all want to talk about it on the radio. And the reality is, unless that's true, we're not doing ourselves any good. In fact, we're doing ourselves harm when we repeat things that just aren't true. To your point, those things have to be checked. And what I'm trying to get everybody to listen to that's hearing us and listening to this podcast, you might even be listening to us on Terrestrial Radio. Reality is, before you send anything on, before you even hit the like button on a particular video, Double check to make sure, in fact, that's real. And by the way, if you go do some checking and find out that it's not, instead of hitting the like button, you know, depending upon who's doing that and who's sending that, you may want to send a private message that says, hey, you know, that video you put up, guess what? Not real. Might want to rethink about having that up because at the end of the day, that's not, you know, it's not boding very well for your credibility down the road.
SPEAKER 04 :
Listen to this. I mean, I won't belabor this thing. First of all, let me mention, I was on Instagram the other day and there was a post there. Somebody put something up, putting two pictures side by side. On the left was like two telephone poles and the moonlight or the fading sunlight or something was behind them. And they were casting shadows in the exact opposite direction. same direction right let's say the shadows were both pointing northwest whatever why because there's two you know vertical poles right and the the light is behind them and obviously the shadow should be in the same place next to it was the shadow of an astronaut obviously had just stepped out of the lunar module or something was getting ready to jump down onto the ground and the shadow was let's say northwest but there was a rock nearby that was casting a shadow to the east let's say And it was like, that can't happen. That can't happen if it's real. And it was from somebody who was trying to claim that the moon landing didn't occur. And I think there's some fascinating questions about all that. I'm not going to get into it. I'm not sure what I believe, but it was interesting. I was looking at it, but how do I know that that photo trying to prove the story is even real? Now I got to research the photo to say, is that correct? Or did somebody just do this to push propaganda to say that the moon landing never occurred? The point is it gets really complicated. So again, I looked up a little bit about like, how do you know if AI is real? And it was kind of overwhelming. But some of the things they talk about is that, you know, sometimes when you right click on something, you can check the properties and it will offer some metadata information, which also, by the way, could be altered. So you got to be wary of that.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's not the only. Yeah, that's not the 100% factoid at the end of the day, because those things can be changed. You're exactly right, Neil.
SPEAKER 04 :
So then they're talking about things like unusual or inconsistent details, such as AI-generated images often contain minor noticeable detail errors. Texture and pattern repetition, they go into detail there. Lighting and shadows, background anomalies, backgrounds in AI images can be a giveaway. Many are overly simplistic or overly complex or contain images that don't belong, etc., facial features, contextual errors, text and labels, digital artifacts, emotional inconsistency, which AI-generated faces may have expressions that don't quite match the emotion or the mood the image conveys. Can you imagine scrutinizing everything that we see on the Internet with this kind of information? Who's going to do this? Oh, look at the guy's left ring finger is in the wrong position.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 04 :
What?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and that's my fear, Neil, is because unless somebody goes through a lot of the things that you just said, which in some cases you may be using AI to prove that AI is real or not real, that'll become interesting, by the way, all in and of itself, because you might be using the same tool to determine if something's actually real or is it a fake. And my main concern with people, and this has been around to your point, even all the way back when just emails were going around. In fact, we can go even back further, Neil. It's been around since the beginning of time and people started communicating because when people start communicating and repeating something, even that they heard before long, you know, even that narrative gets changed. And that's where, you know, not to get way off track, but that's why we can talk about, you know, biblical text and the fact that in ancient days, they were very careful in making sure that everything that was repeated was exactly the way that it was, because it was the only way they had to document history. And again, that's a whole nother maybe podcast in and of itself, Neil. We've lost all of that though, Neil. We don't do any of that any longer. We do very, even as Christians, we do very little checking to determine is something real or not. And my point is, I want people to be more vigilant in the things that they're doing and double checking to make sure that in fact, those things that they're repeating are real, are true, and aren't giving them a black eye when it's all said and done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I don't want to get too far into the weeds here, but I hear a lot of this from my listeners in Canada, because they talk about the frustration they have over state-run media, essentially. You know, they're hearing from the CBC, who's telling you what the government wants you to know, basically. And it's no different than, it can be no different than places like Russia or wherever else. My point is too, that look at how The eyes of so many people were opened when Joe Biden couldn't couldn't stand on his own two feet during the debate with Donald Trump. All of a sudden, it was like, holy cow, we've been lied to by the mainstream media. We've been lied to by the Democrat Party and their leadership. And I believe, honestly, that debate simply because of Joe Biden's inability to conduct himself properly. like a, you know, a properly functioning human being was what swung the entire election. Yeah. The borders mattered and economy and other things that people care about. But I think the people began to move away from the mainstream media at that point in droves saying, I'm not sure what I believe anymore. I'm not sure what I can trust. And you start looking to alternative sources like Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson and Fox news or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
yep great point again leading into our sponsors pre-born which we'll talk about real quick because it fits right into what we're talking about because the left neil you know this they have put out a narrative for so long now 50 plus years they've been putting out a narrative of you know basically women's health and abortion is women's health and that's not really a baby that's just tissue and you know we can't put the rights of the baby over the rights of mom because it's inside of mom's body and on and on and on we go and the reality is None of that is true. That is a baby. There were choices made. And the reality is there's a life now that's living inside of mom and preborn is doing. And we, as a part of preborn, Neil, are doing everything we possibly can. to not only save the baby's life, but the life of mom, the family, and so on. We've talked in the past on this program and even gotten into some stories where all of us as hosts have talked to those, and I know I have for sure, Neal, you get on the topic of abortion and you'll have a lady that will call in and talk about even being a Christian today, but having an abortion maybe as a young lady and the regret and the grief and the things that she is still holding on to from that point in time. And believe me, that affects a lot more women, Neil, than what the left would ever have you to believe. So folks, believe me, Preborn's doing great work. You can do great work through them. I can't run an ultrasound machine. I am not medically inclined. I don't have that ability to sit in front of these young ladies and consult with them and do the things that pre-born does neil but the one thing i can do is donate give and make sure that they're doing that work that i cannot do so for all of you listening please uh again put your money where your mouth is donate to pre-born today go to crawfordmediagroup.net look for them and for just a very little bit of money you can save not only one baby's life, but multiple babies' lives. Bob talks about the $15,000 donation to buy an actual ultrasound machine. Those of you that have more wherewithal and feel like you can do that, there's an opportunity there as well. But again, just go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and then SunPowerLEDNeil. Great, great tool. And it really is what it is. It's a tool that can help people heal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and interesting that we've been talking about AI and what's true and everything else because my wife, I'm not medically inclined as you are not, you said, but my wife is an ultrasound tech and she is a head nurse at a pro-life agency that uses the technology you're talking about from pre-born and helps women see what's actually happening inside of them. So when women say, I'm not sure I want to be a mom, they're able to help them gently understand you already are a mom. Look at this, you know, and they're, and if the woman's willing to see the photo, 80% of the people that look at that image, choose life for their babies. It's an incredible thing. We have some great sponsors and not only pre-born, but SunPower LED. It is really helping people to get free of pain and get their lives back again. Inflammation, the more I read, the more I understand about role of inflammation in our bodies, it's absolutely debilitating. And it's at the root of so many different problems. Some of you are dealing with back pain, neck pain, cervical spinal stenosis is something I'm hearing more and more about. In fact, just the other day, I got an email from a listener. said listen i know that you talk a lot about sun power led but i also hear that you have laryngitis i think you should use the light and see what happens and i i have a light from sun power led i have a palm unit and she was 100 right problem is i had loaned it out to a friend who was having a foot problem and i eventually got it back i put it on my throat and i had had laryngitis for the better part of three weeks really bad for one week the minute i started using it within about 24 hours i was talking normally again it was unbelievable what turned around well sun power led simply harnesses certain wavelengths of the very light god himself created and then helps hone those those wavelengths in to where the problem is excites the mitochondria and the cells in the affected area immediately begins to reduce pain reduce swelling and promote healing and when cells are energized guess what cells do they do what they were created to do and they heal our bodies so i want you to learn about sun power led they've got videos every tuesday night for absolutely free you can participate in a free webinar to learn about the role of light therapy and how it can be used to heal your body. Learn more by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on Sun Power LED. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, Sun Power LED.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, as we wind down this first half of the podcast, got a lot more to talk about in the second half, and we're never... Short on topics, guys, we do appreciate each and every one of you listening. Again, I'm your host, John Rush from Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Bob Duco, who's normally with us, will be with us next week, by the way, Detroit, Michigan. He is with The Bob Duco Show. And, of course, Neil Boron, who you're hearing now with me from Buffalo, New York. Neil Boron Live. And, folks, again, thank you so much for listening. Second half of the National Crawford Roundtable is next.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is a Crawford Media Group production.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Welcome back. Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, Sean Rush. Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Bob Duco from Detroit, Michigan is not with us today. The Bob Duco Show and Neil Boron, of course, Buffalo, New York. Neil is with us. And really quick, Neil, I do have to say this. I'm on air on Saturday. So for some of you that are, you know, listening to the podcast and some of you might actually be listening on a Saturday and this past Saturday while I'm on air doing some of the other programs I do, I do a around the house show on Saturday mornings. And then I do a car show on Saturdays that I've actually done for about 27 years now and kind of where I got started. Last Saturday, Neil, because somebody was listening to the podcast and kind of did a little bit of research. And then I guess somehow heard I was online or I was on air live and wanted to call into my car show and talk about some of the things that we talk about on the round table. And my engineer, Charlie, said, well, you can do that, but this isn't quite the right format for but we appreciate you listening and the fact that you have found us and this that and the other so it's really funny uh neil how people do find us and you know what goes on as far as that goes and again i do appreciate all of you that listen but yes if you're listening and then try to get a hold of me in one of my programs on a saturday you can call in and talk cars but yeah we're not talking politics on the weekends
SPEAKER 04 :
You got to have one day where you can have one day off, Neil.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. All right. So we talked to AI during the first half. And guys, we could spend the second half talking about the very same thing because it's such a deep subject. Point being, be very careful in what you share. Know what it is. Know that it's real. Know the topic you're sending out even is really real. And you're not using your own confirmation bias when it comes to those things that you're You're saving. And along those same lines, I'm going to spend a lot of time here, but there was an AI image sent around as Trump being Pope. And no, that didn't come out of the Trump team. Somebody else put that together and he's taken some heat over that. And the reality, Neil, is, you know, that wasn't him. We all know that wasn't him. It was more of a joke than anything else. But that image, again, shows you how real AI is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, now help me understand this because one of the things I read about that was that he joked about the image because somebody had created it and referenced it, referred to it. And I don't have a problem with that personally. I think the world is a pretty serious place and from time to time we need to lighten up. There's a time and place for everything, right? A time to weep, a time to mourn, a time to laugh. So let's lighten up a little bit. So somebody creates this image because he had made some comment, like an off-the-cuff comment. Again... I think Donald Trump doesn't get a full fair shake for some of the nuances of his personality. And yeah, he can be abrasive and brash. And I'm not a fan of how he speaks to people at times. Like I've said that openly here on the program, like his policies. Okay, great. But you could say that a little differently, please. Anyway, he can be pretty funny, Neil. Yeah, I know. And the people that have spent time with Bill Maher, Bill Maher is not a fan of Donald Trump. No, doesn't agree with just about anything Donald Trump says. But, you know, he spent time with him at the White House and he was blown away that Donald Trump was not who he expected him to be. And the thing that I've always said that is interesting, and I'm not here to defend everything Donald Trump ever said. I'm not saying that. I just think that when you have grown kids that love you and want to spend time with you, and they want to be a part of your world, that says more than just about anything. Because there's an awful lot of people out there that are pastors or ministry leaders, and their kids are off, you know, absolutely estranged from the family, haven't talked to dad in, you know, 30 years, whatever. There's something about the fact that Donald Trump has another side to him. I mean, he's got the very public side that is brash and abrasive, and not everybody likes it. But there's something else going on there. So I think that, you know, he took he had made some off the cuff comment like, well, they're going to have to choose a pope. And, you know, I'm available, whatever. I'm totally paraphrasing. Right. I mean, you know, you and I could joke about the same thing. I know somebody comes up with this AI generated photo of him in the pope outfit. And and then he reposted it. I think I'm correct me if I'm wrong.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think the White House itself reposted it as a joke is what they did. Not him, but the White House staff did. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
And some are saying, I mean, that's disrespectful. They haven't even chosen a new pope. I thought it was kind of funny, actually. I'm with you. I don't know. To me, can we all just lighten up, please, a little bit? Donald Trump does not want to be pope. He's not qualified to be pope. He's not going to be the pope.
SPEAKER 03 :
He won't be the pope.
SPEAKER 04 :
But he goofed around with it for a minute. How could that not be a thing on Saturday Night Live? They would put that on Saturday Night Live.
SPEAKER 03 :
They would.
SPEAKER 04 :
Normally, if they had thought of it, and then they'd want credit for it. But because Trump did it, they're just going to bash him.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you're right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't get it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't either. One other thing I wanted to brush on because, again, this kind of goes back to – Even some of what we were talking about in the first half of the podcast with AI and the confirmation bias and some of those things. And I've seen some of this posted and I have chimed in at times, even on social media. And I'm not one to post a lot on social media. I think for me in particular, Neil, I spend so much time on air, you know, weekly talking about some of these things that frankly, I am not going to be a keyboard warrior. I'm not going to go down that path. There's very few things that I'll even comment on because it's just not in the my wheelhouse because of all the other things that, you know, folks like you and I do, I just don't want to do it. And I know I'm different. I know there's a lot of hosts and things out there that will get into that diatribe and they'll, you'll be a keyboard warrior at time. I'm not one of those, but I have seen, and there's times even where you wonder, is this person really a Christian that's posting this? Because I question whether they are or not just because of the post and their knack, their lack of knowledge of how things actually work. But there are some out there that will claim that Donald Trump is the Antichrist. And I will just tell everybody straight up that anybody that is anti-globalism... I'm going to say that again. Anybody that is anti-globalism is not the Antichrist because the Antichrist will be all for globalism because the only way you can do with that individual at that time, Neil, and you're a former pastor, you know this better than I, that person will need to rule the whole world, therefore ushering in even more globalism than we've probably ever seen in the past. And the reality is anybody that is anti-globalism is not the Antichrist, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I agree. Secondarily, I think, honestly, because the Antichrist will be accepted essentially for a time anyway as Messiah by the Jews, the non-believing Jews, that there has to be some level of Jewish connection somehow, somewhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree with you, Neal.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then I'm one where I'm not to get off on a tangent. Maybe we can do a podcast on this at some point. Maybe maybe you could lead that at some point. But I'm one that believes that he will have to be full Jewish, just like Jesus Christ was, because the Jews would not believe their Messiah coming would not be that. So my feeling is and always has been that the Antichrist will have to be full Jew.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah, and you're onto something, so let's pick it up on another occasion. But let me say this, that I think also that on the issue of Antichrist, whoever this person is has to be somebody that's going to be a uniter, like somebody that whatever comes out of their mouth is going to bring like this idea that, wow, we've achieved utopia. Look at this is all working. That's right. It's perfect. And we all totally agree with it. Donald Trump has never said anything that everyone agrees with, like quite the opposite, Neil, quite the opposite. Absolute division at times when he speaks, people that want to hear what he's saying are like, wow, look at how bold he is saying these things. And others are like, I hate this guy. So I don't I mean, it's it's ludicrous. But but I can also see I mean, they called him Hitler and that didn't really stick. So I guess Antichrist would be the next option.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, all I'm saying is those of you that are Christians, if you see somebody posting that, especially somebody that you would know, a family member, another fellow Christian, maybe or even a young Christian, please inform them of some of the things that. Neil and I just stated, give them two or three little points that would say, yeah, no, there's no way that he would ever do that because of X, Y, Z. There's easy things you can do along those lines. Let's talk about SunPower LED though, Neil, because again, just a great tool that can help people not only heal, but when you heal, you feel better. You have a better outlook on life. I mean, anytime any of us have pain, myself included, Neil, I struggle at times with back pain and I'll use the The red light therapy for that, I had back surgery when I was 22 years of age, had a disc taken out from being an auto technician and so on. I don't get into all of that. But reality is I've struggled with that area in my life forever. And I understand pain probably better than most do, Neil, because I've lived with it from that point forward. Vowing I was never going to go back under the knife. I'll do whatever I have to do. uh, you know, outside of drugs, I will do anything I, I can to not go back under the knife because I've just seen too many, uh, bad cases where people do. And it's just the continuation of, and I didn't want to be that person. So I've always looked for other things to do, including this red light therapy to help me in that area. And I will tell you straight up. Yes. In fact, it helps.
SPEAKER 04 :
It sure does. And in so many, excuse me, in so many different ways. I was watching a video recently of a young man who has autism and red light therapy. There's no claim that it heals autism, but there's a lot of things that come along with autism, like agitation, aggressive behavior, acting out in various ways, you know, swinging out, you know, sometimes becoming violent if somebody with autism is agitated. And so there was somebody who was really struggling with emotional issues. uh behavior and social behavior and so they put um the red light therapy device on their head there's a certain unit that almost it almost literally looks like kazoo from the jetsons i mean it's this thing that you put over top of your head but it takes red light therapy of certain wavelengths high intensity light that will not give you skin cancer anything like that it penetrates the body goes deep into the cells and reduces swelling reduces pain promotes healing i don't know what kind of an effect it had on this gentleman but i watched on the video as he began to calm down became docile not like not like um Not like, you know, needed to be helped up out of a chair or anything like that. But I mean, settled right down, became calm and agreeable, maybe is the best word to use. It was absolutely fascinating. So they're doing more and more in looking at how it could be used to address, you know, certain behaviors. And it's been very effective in dealing with epileptic seizures. and other kinds of you know head trauma kind of things that people have dealt with but but achy joints like you said back pain all kinds of situations i i was cured my lungs were cured using sun power led to help reduce the inflammation that was in my lungs after covid when i couldn't breathe So check it out for yourself because, you know, sound waves have energy, light waves have energy, and this is the light God created. Check it out for yourself. There's no big pharma, there's no surgical intervention, just the light God himself created and how it can be used in so many different ways to have a positive impact on our bodies. And you can learn about it by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on SunPowerLED. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, SunPowerLED. And By the way, John Crawford Media Group dot net is where we find our other major sponsor, Preborn.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. Preborn, as I said during the first half, doing some great things to not only save the lives of babies, but to save the lives. And in a lot of cases, Neil, it's the entire family. It's mom. It can be dad. And I think this is something that we don't talk near enough about. A lot of times it's mom that wants to do something with the baby. Dad is like, hey, you know, I know I'm here for the long haul. I'll support, I'll do whatever is necessary. And so in a lot of cases, it's a healing that happens, Neil, both mom and dad. And by the way, when it's all said and done, a healing for the rest of the family, because I can tell you one thing, Neil, and there's something else we don't talk much about, but you being a grandparent, me being a grandparent, there is not a larger joy in the world than being a grandparent and having that privilege, I guess is what I would say, Neil, to be that. And at the end of the day, Those that have abortions are taking that away, not only from themselves, but from their parents and or grandparents, I guess you could say, Neil. And pre-born is doing a great work to not only help in the life of the baby, but the life of mom, the life of dad, the life of aunts and uncles and grandparents and so on. And the reality is that young life will go on to do great things if we don't kill it in the womb. And that's what pre-born is out doing. So for those of you listening, I said during the last half of the podcast that pre-born They do work that I can't do, Neil, literally. They're doing things that I just physically, mentally, I don't have the capacity. It's not in my wheelhouse to do. They're doing it. But the one thing I can do to help them is give. You guys can do the same thing. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Give to Preborn. It is now our longest podcast. Best sponsor, not taking anything away from SunPower LED, but Preborn has been here through the long haul. And I want to make sure that we're honoring them in that way, Neil. And they're just a great organization helping to save babies and moms and families lives.
SPEAKER 04 :
Amen. Yeah. And I would assume that just about everybody who's listening loves the grandkids as much as we do. If you've got grandkids, you love them. And by the way, I was watching a video the other day of my own grandkids, the older ones. dealing with the little guy, Everett Isaac. He's now about nine weeks. And just the kindness, the love they were showing, what I was really observing. was that my two, I've got four other grandkids, two boys, two girls. The older boys were treating them as though they were fatherly, a protective kind of thing. The two girls were mothering him, just loving on him. And I was watching them develop their roles, the social interaction of his siblings and his cousins loving on him. And I was saying, this is how families develop. This is where we learn love. And why rob anyone of that? We need pre-born to help keep families intact and babies alive. Amen.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, everything you just said, Neil, you probably didn't plan on this, but kind of leads into a topic I wanted to get into today. We don't have a ton of time as we're wrapping things up here. Got just a little bit left in this second half of the podcast, but there was a Supreme Court ruling. handed down yesterday, allowing Trump to reinstate his transgender ban in the military, which, by the way, I'm all for. And I'll give my reasons as to why I'm for that in a moment. But, Neil, you just reminded me of something a moment ago. And I've said this. I've had this argument with people that have sent me direct messages through Facebook. I've had always very nice, congenial conversations back and forth. But some people do not agree with me in my stance on the transgender end of things some people really do feel that it's a you know that it's a medical issue and these people were born in the wrong body and we should allow them to transition and so on and my comeback always is no this is a mental illness problem somewhere along the line what you said neil a moment ago has not been fostered in other words If you're born a boy, if you're born a girl, there's just certain things intrinsically. And I've seen it myself with my own kids, grandkids, Neil, as you have. I've seen that. And the reality is these kids, unfortunately, haven't had that fostering. In fact, I think they've had the opposite in a lot of cases. I look at the parents as being a lot of the problem. with what's happening with a lot of kids that, that quote unquote, feel like they're in the wrong body, Neil, uh, number one, anybody that says that I think is looking at God and slapping him in the face saying, you made a mistake. You made me the wrong person. I'm going to go ahead and now be my own God. And I'm going to change things around. That's one of the problems I have with the whole. transgender movement is you're playing God when he is almighty and he did make you the way you are and you should be thankful for and continue to move forward in your life. So to me, it's a mental illness, spiritual problem as much as, as anything on top of that though, Neil, I feel like it's a cash cow for the medical industry. These, these surgeries and the continual, uh, maintenance of is huge. It's millions upon millions upon millions of dollars that the medical community now is neil is collecting upon these things and so when people come in and say well it's medically proven no it's not because follow the money people this isn't medically proven any way shape or form it's simply a cash cow for a lot of those folks in the medical industry and i'm all for a ban of having these folks in the military because frankly these are mentally uh mentally disturbed people that don't know who they are they don't know what body they're in and no i don't want them fighting for my country
SPEAKER 04 :
It's amazing, honestly, how the topics we're talking about today are seemingly completely unrelated, but on the other hand, maybe not so much. I mean, we were in the first half of the podcast talking about AI and what is real and what isn't. So when somebody is living a life and questioning whether God got it wrong and that they're actually a male living in a female's body or female living in a male's body, we need to really look. intently at what's going on there and say, how can we help? Because these are people that are very deeply troubled in what we are talking about a mental disorder. And I'm not saying that to disparage anyone. Like, um, I have, uh, my brother-in-law and his wife have a daughter. Uh, it's a second marriage situation. Uh, she came into the picture after he lost his previous wife, she passed away. So this woman brought this girl into the marriage and beautiful, absolutely sweet girl lives in New York city now. Uh, so talented. And to look at her, you would say, wow, what a gorgeous young woman. She believed she was ugly. She had this body dysmorphic disorder thing and would begin cutting herself and maiming her own face and features. thinking clearly I'm the ugliest thing ever. I've got to try to do something in my own power, in my own strength to try to fix this. And not that she used those words, but she tried to fix it. Another thing, you know, I've told this story for sure, but when I was serving as a pastor, we had a gentleman in our church who had anorexia. Typically it's females that deal with it, but he had anorexia and he believed he was fat. He was in the neighborhood of 87 ish pounds, 85 to 87 pounds, the final year of his life. And mean and that's he looked like the bodies that they put on the carts when they were wheeling people out of auschwitz i mean it was unbelievable what this man believed and he believed he was fat so let me ask you a question is the loving truthful thing to do as a believer in jesus christ the god of all truth jesus said i am the truth that we're going to go to this young girl or this man and say, yes, you know what? You're right. You're ugly. Or to him, you're so fat. You really need to go on a diet. You're so fat. So what are we going to do? We're going to lie to them? No. I mean, if somebody believes they were born in the wrong body, they've got a mental issue that needs to be prayed about and dealt with. And we can love them. We can care for them. But we have to realize that they're dealing with an issue that's not only causing themselves problems, but has the potential to cause problems for others around them. Simply because of the to what I'm looking for. The fixation on this issue. I mean, for the gentleman I'm talking about that had anorexia, this was an all-consuming situation. I'm sure it is. He was in and out of the hospital. The family was asking for prayer. They didn't know if he was going to live or die. I mean, it became this all-consuming thing. It was a huge distraction. That doesn't mean he was any less valuable. He's as valuable as anyone else who Jesus gave his life for. But what I see, John, and you touched on this earlier, You know, military thing, military readiness matters. And there's people that are kept out of the military because of allergies and depression, flat feet, flat feet. Yeah. Or if you had to hurt, let's say you went to the high school dance, got herpes and you've got herpes. You could be kept out of the military braces having one or both testicles missing. I have a friend that has one testicle. And, you know, believe there was a lot of jokes in high school amongst the guys about all that. But he's a dear friend. He couldn't serve in the military for that reason. So there was many reasons why people have been kept out of the military for years. And if military... leaders feel that this type of distraction is going to affect military readiness and put that individual or others in harm's way, then I say that's what we need to do.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I believe you're right, Neil. You bring up a great point. I believe that it does affect that readiness when it's all said and done, the continual drug treatments and things that have to happen with these particular individuals. And And I know that you probably have as well as I. I have interviewed different people through the years that have transitioned and detransitioned because of the mental anguish and everything that they're still fighting, the quote-unquote demons that are still there. And in a lot of cases, by the love of God and Christ himself, these folks were able to overcome those things and detransition and now run around telling everybody else what a huge mistake this is and the fact that we're literally – you know, we're literally disfiguring young children and doing things to them that, frankly, in my opinion, is child abuse. And we should not be doing those things any way, shape or form. And I'm going back to your point, Neil. And this is something that I've used this example many times on my program. My brother passed away four years ago. You know, God rest his soul. And he knew the Lord was a pastor and all of that. But I can remember a time when we were both young. He was probably five. I was probably seven. And one of my female cousins, which they were about the same age. My cousin and my brother were pretty close to the same age. And she had gotten a baby doll. for uh her birthday which was before christmas and my brother's birthday happened to be shortly after christmas and all i can remember is my brother hounding my mom and my dad to have a baby doll he wanted to be like my cousin of course and he's five remember he's not super old but old enough to to know better you know you can start deciphering right from wrong neil of course at that age by all means i mean a lot of kids are starting kindergarten and first grade even depending upon you know when they start school anyways bottom line my dad finally had had enough of that and i can still remember i can remember sitting in the exact room where you know there's certain things in your life that are always memorable neil this is one of those for me i can remember being in the room where my brother was hounding my dad and mom for a baby doll and my dad grabbing ahold of my brother, bringing him over, setting him right in front of him, looking him in the eye and saying, you are a boy soon to be a man. You are not a girl. Girls play with baby dolls. Boys do not. And no, you are not going to have a baby doll, period. Don't ask again. And guess what? My brother never did. And he was fine. And he was fine. That did not scar him for life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, thank God. Thank God, you know, for corrective truth and loving corrective truth.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. My point is, those are the conversations that some of these parents need to be having with their young children. And the fact of the matter is, Neil, we're not. So before we get too far gone here and we don't have time to do this, SunPowerLED, one of our great sponsors, they have some great devices. And even when I'm filling in for you, I remind people that they have a device for just about anything you need to have done online. And those of you that have more resources than others, you can buy a complete bed if you would like to, Neil. It's not just the palm device you and I use and talk about. They have an array of things that work.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And it's unbelievable. Um, some of these are more like the size of a ceiling tile panel that can go over your entire, you know, torso or whatever. I mean, you need to look, just go to sun power led. Uh, when you click on that at Crawford media group.net, you'll be able to watch videos. You'll be able to see these devices. I have what's called the super Palm device, but it fits in your hand. It's a little, maybe it's thicker, but it's around the size of a ping pong paddle, maybe a little smaller. Um, it's unbelievable the intensity of the light that it creates let me just throw this out there you know as you listen to me and you're considering can light actually heal the body um well how many drugs could you name that have brought healing to people over say the last 50 years like medications that people take for things like diabetes, for instance. What I see is I see big pharma having no interest whatsoever in curing disease, but they've got a lot of interest in managing it because if you have to stay on those medications and then take medications to help deal with the effects of the medications, man, they got a cash cow like John mentioned earlier. And big pharma is famous for that. Bottom line is light that God himself created has now been used effectively and is being used effectively by those who understand what's called light therapy or photobiomodulation, to use certain wavelengths of that light to penetrate the body, literally go inside the human body, wake up the mitochondria in the cell, energize that cell, and then cause it to begin doing what it was created to do, and that's to heal our bodies. So you need to find out what light therapy can do. It's non-invasive. It's not surgical. There's no drugs involved. But just check it out. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, SunPowerLED. Click on it and find out how light can be used to reduce pain and swelling and promote healing in our bodies. And thank God they're a sponsor of The Roundtable, as is Preborn.
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Yep, and Preborn, great organization. I've talked about them a lot today. Reality, folks, is put your money where your mouth is. Help preborn. They're doing work, doing things in not only the life of that baby, but in the life of mom, the entire family. As I said the last time I talked about them, the reality is they're doing things that, frankly, I just cannot do. Most of you listening. But one thing we can do, and every donation counts, folks. I don't care if it's $10, $100, $1,000, or if you want to spend $15,000 and actually buy an ultrasound machine. Any amount helps. You're helping save a baby's life. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Look for Preborn. Give. And by the way, they've got other things, too, that they've got going on on an annual basis that you can check into as well. They do all sorts of gatherings and different things that a lot of you that are listening could take part in and really help them out at the end of the day. So I encourage you, go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Look for Preborn. Click on that. Donate. And by the way, when you do, make sure you tell them that you heard them on the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. as well. Wrapping things up, Neil, I want to say thank you for joining me today. I appreciate it very much. I know Bob is out and Bob will be back with us next week, but thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's pretending to be on vacation. He's actually participating in the conclave. There you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
There you go. He's helping elect a new pope. All right, guys, with that, again, this is the National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host, John Rush, Neil Boron out of Buffalo, New York, Neil Boron live as well. Guys, have a great week. We'll see you next week. National Crawford Roundtable.
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Join Bill Gunderson and Barry Kider as they discuss the implications of the U.S.-China trade tensions that have been causing ripples across global markets. Discover insights into tariff policies, their broader economic consequences, and detailed evaluations of stock performance, including the likes of Disney, AMD, and others. This episode promises a comprehensive look at the interplay between international negotiations and stock market dynamics.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
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And welcome to the Tuesday morning, May the 7th, 2025. It's the China trade update version of the Best Stocks Now show today with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson, president of Gunnarsson Capital Management. I'm here with Barry Kider, chartered financial analyst. And the China talks are probably why the market is up today. The Dow is up 230. Disney is helping the Dow. The NASDAQ is now up 62. It was up just a skosh. Now it's up 62 points to 17,752. The S&P 500 is up 25 points right now to 5,632. Small caps are up 40 basis points. The 10-year is basically flat right now. The 10-year is trading at 4.30%.
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4.30%.
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And we'll hear from our friendly Fed. Our friends at the Fed, sometimes they are, most of the times they're not. Later today, whether or not we'll get a rate cut or not, don't count on it. The crude oil is down to $58.87. Gold is down almost a percent today after a new high yesterday. And last but not least, Bitcoin is up, risk on today, up 3,184 to 97,042. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. And I'm here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we did have a weekday in the market yesterday. It's kind of a rough day, actually, with the Dow down 390. Oh, and the NASDAQ down 154. I think it's not a lot of progress being made between the U.S. and China. But wait, wait a minute. Breaking news last night, right? Didn't I say there would be something would give this week? Because it's virtually come to a standstill. I mean, I look out here at the Wando River. It's just as calm as could be right now. There's no transactions taking place. There's no ships being unloaded. It's just very, very quiet. But top officials from the U.S. and China to hold trade talks on Saturday in Geneva. The futures were up quite a bit last night on this news, and then I think it's kind of like buy the rumor and then sell the news, and we really don't know how well that's going to go, but that's a major breakthrough.
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In Switzerland, not a bad backdrop for trade talks, right? I mean, you know, Besson's been to Davos, I'm sure, a few times along the way.
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Yes, and Switzerland's always been kind of the neutral party where people like to meet and discuss differences between them. But senior officials... Now, I don't think Trump's going to be there, but senior officials from U.S. and China are set to meet in a neutral third-party country, Switzerland, this Saturday for crucial trade talks. Maybe I'll go to represent Best Docs Now show at the Switzerland talks. The meeting is aimed at easing the escalating trade tensions between the two nations. This is the first official interaction. since Trump announced broad tariffs in April, which led to a global market meltdown and a string of retaliatory actions from Beijing. Now, I did notice for the first time today, I went on Amazon to reorder something that I've been using, and it wasn't there anymore. And I have to believe, I mean, it's a pretty common thing, and I'm pretty sure it probably comes from China, and all of a sudden it's not there. It says temporarily out of stock or not available. I just went to reorder it. I've got to believe that the... The inventory is starting to be used up that's here in the U.S. And, of course, anything that arrives now and is unloaded is subject to 140% tariff. And they're waiting for you at the port. To inspect your – I'd like to go down there and see that. I don't know anybody that works at the port. Maybe you know somebody.
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Yeah, well, no, yeah. I mean, my wife's dad used to have a trucking company, and the trick is you can't – because I asked him. I'm like, I'd like to just ride through there to see the automation, right, and obviously go from the front all the way through and then come out with a load, right? And there's no – Really, I think probably since 9-11, but there's no ride-along. From a security purposes standpoint, they won't let you out there. It's crazy. It's kind of locked down like Air Force bases.
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I could watch from my boat and a pair of binoculars.
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Yeah, you certainly can do that, right? Just follow the load.
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Inspect those containers, right? I mean, they must inspect, open them up, what's in them, blah, blah, blah.
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You've got some that are hazardous. You've got some that are refrigerated, right? They come in all the same shape usually.
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Yeah, all the same shape. They were talking about the 4th of July this year, how we might not have fireworks because all the fireworks come from China, right?
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Yeah, I think it was like 90. I think I saw a stat. It was like 97%, yeah.
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Yep. Well, I have a big box of leftovers. So at least if there's not a show in Charleston, you can come to my house and watch. We'll be blasting some into the river on the 4th of July. Well, right now, here's where the tariffs sit. The tariffs against China are at 145%. So figure it out. A $10 item would be $29, right? Am I figuring that out right? Yes. $29 to pay $19 in tariff, which goes to the U.S. Treasury, I guess, and the other $10 goes for the product. I don't think anybody's going to buy any. That's why I say it's at a standstill.
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Well, essentially, you hear this term, it's essentially a de facto embargo, right? Yeah. I mean, from that standpoint.
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This is like the Civil War, really, kind of, with all of the taxes they placed on the cotton and stuff, the indigo that was being produced here in South Carolina. China's tariffs on the U.S., 125, so something that cost you $10 would now cost you, let's see, $22.50, right? $22.50. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson and U.S. Trade Representative Jameson Greer will meet their counterparts. Well, that's a heavyweight team there.
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I mean, that's when I saw that news come across the wire. And then I was like, when is it going to be? Because Besson is in front of Congress or part of Congress today, the second day in front of that. So he probably can't wait to get to Switzerland.
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Headed for Switzerland, Vice Premier He Leifang, widely regarded as China's chief economic policymaker and trade negotiator, will represent China. My sense is that this will be about de-escalation, Besson told Fox News Channel's The Ingram Angle after the announcement. We've got to de-escalate before we can move forward. This is not sustainable, said Besson, as I have said before, especially on the Chinese side. Like you said, Barry, 145% and 125% is the equivalent of an embargo. We don't want to decouple. What we want is fair trade, said Besson. And I would just say this. I mean, China, you know, okay, we're buying a lot from them. And they charge a tariff on a lot of the items that we would like to sell to them. And they've either got to drop their tariffs completely, and we drop our tariffs completely, or there's going to be some kind of reciprocal tariff. China, if you charge 10%, we'll charge 10%, something like that. We don't want to decouple. I mean, that's obvious, right?
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We need them. They need us. And that was part of those. What I liked about the interview where I heard him speak here recently was, you know, talking about decoupling. And he says, you know, there's certain things we don't want to decouple on, right? Trinkets, you know, things that, you know, things that, you know, they're made in China that we don't really want to necessarily move production here to produce. And then there's things that they do want to decouple on, especially things that we actually need, especially if you're in a COVID-type situation or some kind of, just for national security purposes, they're trying to bring that production back to the U.S.
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Okay, and here's China's side of the story. If the U.S. wishes to resolve issues through negotiation, it must face up. In other words, admit to, kind of grovel a little bit, must face up to the severe negative impacts of its unilateral tariff measures. Well, China, you've had unilateral tariff measures on us, on itself and the world. Acknowledge international economic trade rules. Are there international trade rules? I don't know. Fairness and justice and the rational voices of all sectors. They must demonstrate sincerity in negotiation, correct its wrongdoings, and work with China like it's all our fault. I think Besson's the right guy to send. I really do. I like him a lot. So we'll see what happens. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, I can tell you that Cleveland is filling up very rapidly, as I expected, as I warned. And if you want to reserve an appointment with us, You need to do it fairly soon. We're just two weeks out. You can call Edie at 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. We've also got a nice crowd lining up for the workshop on Tuesday night. You better reserve a spot as it is filling up. 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST will get you a reservation to the workshop and or a personal appointment with the team you hear on the radio. It sounds like we're going to all be there. on Tuesday and Wednesday. Well, I'm encouraged by these trade talks. Blessed are the peacemakers. Switzerland's always been a land that's tried to accommodate the peacemakers. Let's see if two sides with big differences between them can come together I like Besson a lot. I see him as a peacemaker. I don't see him as giving up the farm either. I think just, you know, let's come away with something that works for both countries and go on with life.
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And he's had plenty of Chinese investment experience as well. I'm sure he has.
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He knows how to deal with them, and they know how to deal with him, I would think. So let's all hope that things go well. Okay, now let's talk about some stocks here that are in the news. Palantir, I want to follow up with Palantir. It was down 13% yesterday. I just think that it's a very expensive stock. It went a long ways in a short period of time. And, you know, it's vulnerable. Even though their report was good, it was down 12% or 13%. It is rebounding today. It's up 2.3%. So still about 10% off of its high. I did read today, and I agree with this assessment from a technical point of view. It's a classic double top. It reached its old high that it set back in February. Then it went on a big swoon, and now it's back at that high. So that is a double top right there. Now, when you hit a double top like that, there's two ways it can go. It can stall out, which it did. It stalled out now here for two days at that top, old top. And it can refuse to go through there, and that can be massive resistance, or it can break on through to the other side, as Jim Morrison said, and go on to new highs, all right? We'll just have to wait and see. I cannot tell you what it's going to do.
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A couple of ways to look at it, too, because you could almost pick out a little – you know head and shoulder there too and then of course that that right shoulder is the one where it took back off and then of course now we're coming a little bit back down so now it kind of turns that uh head and shoulder back into a potential double top right and uh keep in mind that its p e ratio is 237 but it's probably you know like you say it's the operating system for ai
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So the future is very bright. You're paying a lot of money for a star player in the fastest growing industry in the entire market, no question about it. Now, this brings to mind another issue here is the need to power. Now, they kind of backed off from the nuclear during the sell-off, the Trump tariff sell-off, and now the nuclear is starting to catch bids again and doing quite well. Yesterday, Constellation had a good day. SMR had a good day. Oklo had a good day. Why? Well, there were a couple of earnings reports yesterday. And there's one today that has reported, Vistra, which is the Texas nuke company. Vistra is down 6.7%, however. Constellation had a breakout yesterday, very good day. It's down 1.8%. But the Trump administration will seek to speed up. nuclear deployment well there's not much they can do other than grease the skids from a uh... environmental impact regulation point of view uh... because you know it takes a lot of time to build and i have read and i believe it is going to be twenty thirty before any new nuclear comes online That's five years out. So, you know, that's the problem with investing in nuclear right now, unless one of these portable ones. I don't know. There are two countries out there. Russia has a little smaller nuclear reactor, and so does China. And now we're joining the fray with Oklo and SMR. I don't know when they'll have theirs out and actually be deploying those things, but I think it's still several years out. Executive orders could seek to leverage the Department of Defense's Army Reactor Office and Department of Energy. Both have the authority to regulate reactor development to avoid any licensing delays from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. So that's what I said. He's going to grease the skids. And I think it's a good investment to make in nuclear, but you also have to realize that it's not going to happen this year or next year. Cisco unveils a quantum chip. We haven't heard much about quantum lately. Not since... Jensen Wang pretty much stuck a knife in the heart of the burgeoning quantum computing sector.
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He threw some water on computer chips.
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Yeah, he went out further than 2030, it seems like. He went way out to like 2040 or something like that before there's anything... But Cisco's going to throw their hat in the ring. They need to do something. Cisco has been a pretty soggy stock here for a long, long time. And Cisco's up a little bit on that news, not much. Okay, the big news today and this week, earnings, earnings, earnings. But wait a minute. Before we get to the earnings, let's not forget that we're going to get a big announcement around 2.30 p.m. today, and the earth is going to shake, right? The Fed, that's usually at 2.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time when the Fed says there will be no change in interest rates, and you'll hear Trump holler from Washington, D.C., or wherever he's at, And then the Fed will answer questions. And I think the tariffs are on pause for 90 days. I don't know how many days we're into that. Maybe there's 70 days left. That's not China. That's other areas of the world. And I think he's going to put the cuts, the interest rate cuts on hold, too, along with those tariffs. I think they're both on hold. And I don't think we'll get a rate cut today. I would be shocked if we did. The market would certainly celebrate if we got one. And I don't think we'll get one at the next meeting either until this whole tariff stuff. We're 140% on China right now, and they're at 120%. I can't see him giving us a rate cut in the midst of all that. Now, when we come back, Disney... AMD, Oscar Health, Novo Nordisk, Vistra, CrowdStrike, Arista, all in the news today with earnings. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GuntersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show. Call out the instigator Because there's something in the air
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We've got to get together sooner or later.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today's Best Docs Now show. And we begin with Disney. And that's the main reason that the Dow is up right now. In fact, let's just get an update here on the Dow. The Dow is up 208 points. or a half a percent. And Disney actually came in and beat their earnings estimates. Disney's up 10.4% today. I mean, that's like the biggest move I've seen in a long, long time in Disney. I don't know what... I saw a headline this morning.
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Big on the theme park, right? So theme park business better than expected, and then the um other side of that streaming streaming turned out uh better uh better than expected which i thought in terms of the movie studio i thought they've had a couple of duds along the way so i was wondering how that was yeah that's no i want to kind of read just to play with the uh just to see you know what the you know what those numbers were from a movie standpoint but yeah the the part that's moving the stock is on the On the theme park, kind of that core business, and then, of course, the piece of the growth engine being the Disney Plus.
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Well, here's the bottom line with Disney, okay? There's the beauty of the Best Stocks Now app. Whether you're using the Apple version, the Android version on your iPhone, I use the online version, which is beststocksnowapp.com. It's the truth teller. Okay, so, you know, whatever they say in the news conference and in the questions and, you know, what a great quarter, blah, blah, blah. Over the last 10 years, an investment in Disney. Which, if I'm not mistaken, don't they own ABC News?
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Oh, yeah, ABC, ESPN. ESPN? At one point, there's not a lot they don't own. Pixar.
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ABC slants every headline that they can, so I have a problem with that. Ten-year average. Here's Mr. CEO. It's been Iger and someone else, and now it's Iger again over that ten-year period of time. What have you delivered to these shareholders that have been invested in your company? Negative 1% per year for the last 10 years. Negative. So what, 100 grand has turned into like 90 grand. You've lost 1% a year over the last 10 years. That's dismal. Over the last five years, it's 1.6% per year. And I've seen one misstep right after another. from my point of view. You're dealing with young families. I grew up when Disney was like king. In the early days, when I was maybe 10, 11, 12 years old, we lived next to a drive-in theater. That's all they played were Disney movies. And everyone was sold out. I mean, they would camp out in line, Barry, to get into that Disney movie. And I knew right where all the horns were going to honk at 9.30 p.m. when the such and such happens.
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And Disney just ruled. Because guess what? You weren't going to watch it on VHS at that particular time, right? No. Drive-in movie. You had to be at the theater.
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Laying down in this station wagon. And people would pack their cars full of kids and popcorn and blankets. And Disney was king. Over the last three years, it's gotten even worse. Minus 6.1% per year.
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And that doesn't include COVID years, by the way, those three, you know, because we're only looking three years back, right?
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Yeah. And really, they should have benefited, well, not so much the theme parks. But over the last 12 months, the stock's down 18%. So I call it a real stinker. Yes, it would have been a candidate for a value, but, you know, I only buy best stocks now that are on sale, that are value, that are relative value. You may be shocked at those numbers, but those are the numbers. i mean i look at uh their earnings uh back in 2018 they were more back then than they are today and i just see the stock has gone nowhere over the last 10 years so anyways i'm going to look at a monthly chart just to make sure uh 10 years ago yep it's at the same spot it was at 10 years ago only a little lower okay Now, let's go to the next one. Disney did beat their top line and bottom line estimate, and they initiated Q3, and they updated FY25. And they may – I don't know if they mentioned the tariffs, but to watch a Disney – no, it's going to be the other way around. If we want to watch a foreign movie, we're going to have to pay a tariff. But it shouldn't affect Disney. I mean, they can watch a Disney movie and not pay – I don't know how that's going to work in China.
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Well, I saw something where a lot of different, in terms of the movie making business, at some point you may get some type of shot from overseas, right? Or you do some editing overseas or vice versa. So it's a lot like a... you know, like a part that comes from overseas and then gets plugged into a, you know, into some kind of widget. Well, you know, it could potentially, and I don't know how it's going to work out yet, but potentially part of that movie, right, could be subject to a tariff. Yes.
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Well, you just go out of the room during that part of the movie to avoid the tariff, make your popcorn, whatever.
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And a lot of the movie making business has, I mean, you know, a lot of the, you know, the, you know, I saw some stories on just a lot of the movie making business has moved overseas, not just because you need some mountain backdrop necessarily that you're looking for, but also just from a labor standpoint. Like I said, some of the editing and other things, it's just been cheaper to do it, say, overseas than it is, of course, to do it in Hollywood. That's a problem.
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Trump has a problem with that, I guess. Okay, AMD, all right. They had a good report. Very good report. Their sales were up 36%, and their earnings were up 55%. I think they knocked the ball out of the park, and yet the stock is absolutely dead flat in the water today. And I think there's still worries over the whole China situation with certain chips not being available for the Chinese. And AMD, I guess, is under... Stress, they impress Wall Street, but China worries and their AI concerns.
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Yeah, because they've been behind. I mean, certainly have been behind on that. They're not even in the conversation anymore. You know, it's Nvidia and everyone else, right?
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And the CEO of AMD, Lisa Su, is a cousin of Jensen Wang.
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Right.
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And you would think that they must not talk to him. He must keep that NVIDIA chip recipe really undercover. AMD numbers were good, says Morgan Stanley analyst Joseph Moore. The argument could be made that the client numbers are too good in an environment of fear. AI and traditional server matters more, and they're doing well there. But anyways, the stock is dead flat in the water after a really good report. Now, here's a blast from the past. We don't currently own Oscar Health, but we did well with Oscar Health, and it is having a huge day. It's up 25% today. And that is the old CEO of Aetna who made a lot of money for investors because Aetna ended up getting bought out by CVS. I owned Aetna when it was bought out. And then he got bored sitting on the sidelines watching Disney movie stream, and he went to work for Oscar Health, which is backed by, you know, not Trump's sons, his son-in-law. The Kirshners are involved in Oscar Health. And they had a beautiful report. Their sales were up 67% and their earnings were up 40%, 48% in a tough environment. You know, it's been difficult for UnitedHealthcare and for Humana and for Cigna and others. And Oscar comes in and they're doing something a little bit different. And they knocked the ball out of the park. That stock's trading at just 16 times forward earnings. I should have owned it in the value, but I'm just down on the sector right now.
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Yeah, I mean, there's so many. To me, the regulatory risk, right? I mean, where's one of the places, right, if you want to save some money? some money from a federal government standpoint, right? It certainly, you know, is on the health care side. That's a big expense for the U.S. So, you know, reimbursements, other things for health care, you know, are certainly, you know, potentially on the chopping block. And so when you translate that into the health care sector, it creates a good bit of uncertainty in terms of the backdrop.
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Yep, absolutely. Okay, and the next one here, Novo Nordisk. Lily was down big yesterday. I don't know what was up with Lily. They did not meet their earnings estimates, and they did warn. You know, I was talking actually with the doctor yesterday. She said a lot of her clients are getting charged $900 to $1,000 a month for these weight loss drugs. That's one of the problems, but Novo Nordisk is up 3% today. We do own that in our value, relative value portfolio. We'll be right back.
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You've got to go where you want to go and do what you want to do and do it.
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And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Stocks Now show. A little add-on to that Novo Nordisk NVO story. They said that this is why the stock is up today. Even though their sales were down, let me see what their quarter here looks like. Novo Nordisk has lost quite a bit of sales to the compounders, but that window, well, their earnings were up 21% and their sales were up 22%. That's all their products. They have a lot more than just Wegovy. But they're saying that their diet drug, Wagovi, should start rebounding because the loophole closes next month after the FDA declared an end to the U.S. shortage of semaglutide, which is the active ingredient in Wagovi. Novo said this will lead to a recovery in the drug's sales.
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Yeah, and they also mentioned, right, when was it, last week, where they're going to team up with him and hers in terms of distribution of the drug, preferably at a cheaper price, it seems. You're talking about $9,000, $1,000. I mean, you're talking about folks who were already on, say, the Lilly drug, right? And then, of course, folks who were at Compounders, I mean, they're paying $300 to $400, somewhere in there. So just to think that, okay, there's no more compounding, I'm going to hop over to the $1,000 drug, right? I mean, that's a bit of a jump.
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I think the price is going to start coming down. It's going to need to, I believe. If you have sleep apnea or diabetes indications, you can get help. and a much lower price uh also uh you know lily's drug outsells wagovi and uh you do have the issue with the possible tariffs seeing how novo nordisk is a company in the netherlands i think they're manufacturing i think they're manufacturing the drug here in the u.s though at least they announced
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Yeah, they announced probably a month ago now that they were going to increase production. They were in the process of increasing production here in the U.S. Essentially, they probably announced that in hopes that there isn't going to be a tariff at some point or preparing against it. So they've taken some steps to kind of hopefully avoid that whenever those kind of things get announced.
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Yes, and I'm talking with the doctor yesterday. I asked her, I said, you know, from my perspective, the number one health problem we have in America is obesity. She said 100%. She has so many clients and patients that are morbidly overweight or overweight. But they can't afford, you know, unless they've got sleep. I'm sure you just have to go get tested for sleep apnea. And I don't know. You used to have to go to a lab and spend the night.
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Yeah, I mean, it used to be, I was going to say, pretty intensive. I think nowadays there's easier ways to do it. With a monitor of some sort. You can do a sleep study at the house, basically, instead of having to be monitored.
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Yeah, just play with the little thing that's plugged in, you know, or stop breathing off and on. You'll get the discount on the Wagovi. Okay, now, Vistra. All right, Vistra reported. Constellation had a great report. On Monday, today Vistra is down 6.8%. They lost money. I don't know what it was. I'd have to read through it. Maybe they had a one-time thing. But they had an operating loss of $200 million. on revenue of $620 million. So I have to read through that. We do own Vistra in one of our portfolios. Now, the last one, or the other one here that I'm going to talk, well, there's two more I'll try to get in here before the close. Uber, let's mention Uber. Uber reported that's a pretty big company in today's economy. It's down 1.3%. And then you've got CrowdStrike that I consider it to be that and Palantir are two of the best software stocks out there. CrowdStrike has also done a classic double top. It's got the same exact chart pattern as Palantir does. It's down 4.8%, but they had a monster report. But, you know, the problem is with these high PE, high beta stocks, Their earnings were only up 8%. That's not very good. Their sales were up 25%. That's good sales growth, but all of a sudden their margins are decreasing. I've got to look into that. Maybe I'll have Jeff. Jeff, why are CrowdStrike's margins, is it just a temporary thing? That's not very good, 8% growth in earnings. There's something wrong there.
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Well, and I saw what they – I think they announced they're going to lay off – I think it's 5% of the workforce. And, you know, I've heard some of this in terms of down the road for AI where, you know, AI is doing – can do a good bit of the programming, right? And so some of the – you know, some of your IT workers, you know, at some point, right, may get – and may get crowded out by some AI programming. And so that's over. They announced a 5% workforce. I'm going to look in to see who they're actually laying off. My guess is probably not sales folks.
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It's a competitive product. I mean, you've got Palo Alto. You've got crowds. I don't know if they all do have their own little niche and do something different. You have Palantir. You have a lot of cybersecurity companies that have large sales forces that are competing one with another. Datadog, ZS, Zscaler, there's a lot of them. And I'm sure there's a big difference in the price, but for some reason you're seeing some margin shrinkage here. And it may be just something temporary that they're working out at CrowdStrike. And the last one is Arista Networks, which has been a good one, but it's down 6.7% today too. It's doing a double top. So a lot of these AI stocks, which have been on fire for the last two or three weeks and have led to this major recovery into the market, Now they're extended, they're running into resistance, and they're expensive. Okay, well, we're out of time. You know, Cleveland is filling up just like I said it would. If you want to grab an appointment with us, the team that you hear on the radio, call 855-611-BEST. It's two weeks from yesterday and today, May 20 and 21st at the Marriott in Warrensville. And the workshop is Tuesday night at 7 p.m. That's going to be a lot of fun. I can't wait for that. Call 855-611-BEST to get the four-week trial to the app, the newsletter, and all the, you know, wise and sells that I make for the next four weeks. Go to GundersenCapital.com. GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody.
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Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, try to stay out of all the personality fighting, and just really try to cut through all the chaos and confusion in this battle of ideas. The show comes to you Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m., The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. Then after that, you can catch it on Spotify, iTunes, and that's on all KLZ 560 platforms. KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app, and you can say, Alexa, play KLZ, and it should come in loud and clear there as well. Our word of the day is oracle. It's a noun. And it could be a person such as a priestess of ancient Greece through whom a deity is believed to speak. It could be a shrine in which the deity reveals hidden knowledge or the divine purpose through such a person or an answer or decision given by an oracle. Number two, it could be a person giving wise or authoritative decisions or opinions and an authoritative or wise expression or Or answer. And so they have some different sentences here. For example, she became an oracle of pop culture. It's spelled O-R-A-C-L-E. And your challenge is to use oracle in a sentence today. And I was talking with Colonel Rutledge the other day. We were talking about Patrick Henry. And I thought, well, I'll go to Patrick Henry for our quote. And I found two. One's long. We like to use typically a shorter one at the beginning of the show because Zach then likes to post that on social media. But I thought that this one was so important that I wanted to share that with you. So we've got two. Patrick Henry was born in 1736, and he died in 1799. He was an American politician, planter, and orator who declared the Second Virginia Convention, or at the Second Virginia Convention, give me liberty or give me death. He was a founding father and served as the first and sixth post-colonial governor of Virginia. And this is what he said, two things. The first, he said, is our Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government. And and we need to get back to the original Constitution, what it actually said and meant. I think there's a book by that title by Rob Nadelson. But this is the other thing, and I thought this is so interesting with what's happening with these activist judges. He said, "...power is the great evil with which we are contending. We have divided power between three branches of government and erected checks and balances to prevent abuse of power." However, where is the check on the power of the judiciary? If we fail to check the power of the judiciary, I predict that we will eventually live under judicial tyranny. And that is Patrick Henry, all those many years ago. And yes, we are seeing activist judges that are way outside the Constitution. As we talked with Scott Powell yesterday, we're in a constitutional crisis. And as he said in the beginning of his piece, who would have ever dreamed that it would come to us with people wearing robes? But that seems to be the case. Big news here in Colorado is that Trump has got his eyes on this Tina Peters and her case. And I this is very exciting. However, I was talking with someone yesterday and they said that Polis said he is not going to pardon her. I can't find any headlines on that. So, hey, Eric, if you're listening, I know you're all over these things. So let me know if that is, in fact, the case. But she was convicted, I think, of a process crime. And the process that was put in place actually would make it very difficult to do her job to preserve election records under federal law. So she's in a really a difficult situation. So she did what she thought was the right thing to do to preserve those records. And so she was convicted of process crimes. And the judge – well, they sentenced her to nine years in prison and then refused to let her – set bail during her appeal. So she has been incarcerated for many months now. And people have said, well, why won't Trump just pardon her? Well, she was convicted of a Colorado state crime but when I was talking with a friend of mine after the show yesterday they say that it was a state crime however I said it seems to me like when they raided her home in 2021 that it was the feds that did that and so I did a check on that and did find that yes in fact it was the FBI that had raided her home So it seems to me like somehow there's some federal stuff going on as well. So it seems like a strategy to me that they convicted her of a state crime. So this is going to get real interesting now. But to sentence her to nine years when we have illegal alien criminals in that basically are kind of in and out of, if they've been convicted of a crime, many times they're let go again, and again, entering the country illegally. So something doesn't seem right. on what's going on here. So again, this is from Patrick Henry. He said, power is the great evil with which we are contending. We have divided power between three branches of government and erected checks and balances to prevent abuse of power. However, where is the check on the power of the judiciary? If we fail to check the power of the judiciary, I predict that we will eventually live under judicial tyranny. So we are at a a really crucial time in our country. This really is, I think, the third founding of our country to determine if we can get government back into its proper roles. Divided government, we've seen consolidation of power, And we've seen it really local, county, state, and federal level. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And please staff on the line with me, Corey Onizorg. He is recently joined the Colorado Union of Taxpayers board, and we are thrilled to have him. And, Corey, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good morning, Kim. You staying dry?
SPEAKER 15 :
I tell you, these are life-giving rains, and we needed it. But, yeah, it's a little wet out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be caught on I-70 and having a white knuckler, but, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
And so, yeah, these life-giving rains and snows are so important. As I was driving to the station, I saw somebody on a motorcycle, and I thought, ugh, I wonder if he's going to arrive pretty wet wherever he's headed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, it's one of those... I know just about every state when it rains or snows, people slow down about half speed, a lot of swerving. So just be careful out there.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So let's jump into it. Corey, you are so, first of all, so perceptive and you do so much research on so many different issues. And it's great to have you as a member of the board of directors of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is it's all volunteer. But it's really important work. We'd love to have people join us. It's just $25 a year or $2.08 a month. And what's your overview of this recent legislative session, which I think today's the very last day of it. I thought it was yesterday, but I think it's today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we made it. Yeah, kind of. It's, you know, it's... Every single person on the cut board pays a $25 and spends hours of our weekend writing these bills. And I think you call it sleuthing is your word. And we're all very thankful that you're our president and keep us in line. I'm pretty shocked. I think learning how to navigate Bill Track 50, being able to see different types of bills, keywords, not only in the state of Colorado, but I mean, if there's a bad bill in Colorado, you can almost for sure there's almost the exact same bill in California. And it's just been really enlightening. It's like I contemplate moving, but where would I move to? You can't outrun the world, right? And so part of that was I also ran for House District 23. And that was quite an experience as well. And so having a chance to rate bills, I like the word no. I'm a big fan of the word no with a lot of these bills that are coming through. And we need better legislators. I mean, at this point, I'd love to see a little bit of involvement. Did you see... Trump was actually, and I wanted to bring this up, he was wanting to free Tina Peters and basically demanded it on some Trump posts and having some accountability and get out of this one-way law here in Colorado, I think would be good. But I still think the two most egregious bills of the legislative season were Senate Bill 003, And House Bill 1312. And, you know, they were the worst bills because they had, you know, lists of 500 to 700 people opposing it. They were trying to get it on, you know, whether it's Zoom or in person. So.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and the 003, the Senate Bill 003, was the really egregious Second Amendment bill, which basically is such an assault upon everyday people being able to have a firearm to protect themselves and their families against bad actors. But the other thing is that in this Bill Track 50 that you mentioned is so cool because I had asked Karen, the creator of this, if she would flag some words for us. So, for example, on firearms, I said any bill that has the word firearm in it, would you flag that? So we had all this focus over here on 003. But there were 28 different bills that were addressing something regarding firearms. And so the Second Amendment is really under attack here in Colorado. And so, Corey, it's a real problem because we've got a governor and a state legislature that – We're a sanctuary state for illegal immigration, and we know that there are bad actors that have come across the border. And so they want to protect that, but yet they want to take away the right for us to protect ourselves against bad actors. And this is what tyranny can look like. We're headed towards that if we don't get this turned around in Colorado.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, government is, you're pretty much guaranteed for it to turn into tyranny without a well-informed populace. And I think reading through all the bills that we've read through this year, and it's funny you bring up or talk about that gun bill. I did want to announce May 10th and 11th, we'll have a table at the Tanner Gun Show. It's at Jeffco Fairgrounds, I believe... 9 to 5, you want to meet me in person, we can chat about anything. And we put together a few fun things for that. And, you know, Kim, gun people are my favorite people. My mom's cousin, he's got about 100 guns. And he's got multiple stories behind all of them. They're like his children. And if I let him, he'd talk probably... from sunup to sundown about his guns. It's, it's, it's hilarious. And anyway, uh, gun people are, you know, we're getting together and, um, there are so many bad gun bills, uh, over the last 25 years and my research that, uh, people need to be informed and, uh, whether it's making posters, getting them t-shirts so people can see it, you know, while you're waiting in line at a grocery store, whatever it is, writing a song, um, We have to be creative in how to get our state back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and the Second Syndicate is a new sponsor of the show, which I'm absolutely thrilled about. One of the things that Alicia Garcia has said is that we have the second to protect the first, and that is freedom of speech and freedom of religion, all the things that are in the First Amendment. And one of the first things that dictators do— is they disarm the people. And we saw it with Mao, Stalin, Hitler. And so that's why it is so important that we do protect our Second Amendment. But the other thing is that 1312, and we've talked a lot about that, that was the transgender bill. And the radical activist transgender movement movement is really going after our children. And Corey, in the old days, if we would have had bad actors come into town, first of all, they're trying to disarm us so we can't protect our children. But if they came into town and cut off the penises of our young boys and the breasts of our young girls, we would have... We would have stood against that. Now we've got a legislature that has tried to, I think they may have watered that bill down. But a bad bill is a bad bill. It should have gone away. But you can rest assured that they will try to sneak things through next year. And, of course, we at CUT will be watching.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, it's wild. It's fun to be on cut. A lot of amazing people. I think we've got 19 cut engaged bills for you to be able to send a message to the bill sponsor, your actual representative or state senator. And I encourage everyone to use it and everyone to support it. It's a great cause. And we do have an open line with all the legislators in Colorado and They see our positions, and we like to think that it makes a difference.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I want to say thanks to this board that we get to work with, and it's Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, you, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And then this cut engaged. We got it going the middle of the year, but it is really – really cool and i mentioned yesterday on the the show to go go in and we had selected 1312 as one of the bills and i had a number of people i get notifications that had actually used it yesterday and so we will only you know refine that and make it more active next year as well but we invested a significant amount in there so again membership we really appreciate it But, um, it's, it's going to be, I think a really great tool, Corey.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, no, it's definitely, definitely, uh, listeners follow us, uh, on X as well. Um, the handle is at C O C U T 1776. Uh, and if you want to follow some of the things that I say, uh, it's Corey, the number four Colorado, um, on X and, uh, We're trying to get the word out and have a discussion and get away from the silencing, right? First Amendment, just like you said earlier. So I appreciate everything that you do, Kim.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, right back at you, Corey. And you are going to be out at the Tanner Gun Show. And let's see, what is that? Is it the 10th and the 11th, you said?
SPEAKER 08 :
10th and 11th. I believe it's 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
And before you got into all of this stuff that you're doing now, you were in the NFL. So I think that – let people know what you did in the NFL.
SPEAKER 08 :
I punted footballs, and I held footballs for field goals and extra points. And it was – there's nothing like playing in front of 80,000 fans and also – I think as an athlete, you're looked up to. And some of the best people that I've ever met have had some form of athletic action. And so I encourage everybody. The only way I can keep my sanity, Kim, is to work out every day, get in nature, touch some soil, some grass, something like that. And to keep my sanity, because, I mean, it's like you almost know too much and you want to inform people, but it can be overwhelming. You also want to be positive and then be solution oriented.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, yeah, absolutely. I was watching one of the evening shows last night and Trump, Roger Goodell and Trump were on the same. Goodell was at the White House and they announced that the NFL draft will be in Washington, D.C. the next week. draft and with as woke as the NFL had gotten during you know all the craziness on the summer of love of you know tearing our country apart it's pretty remarkable that Goodell was at the White House I thought they they try to say that Trump is a divider but gosh it sure seems like he's bringing a lot of people to the table that you wouldn't expect what's your thoughts on that
SPEAKER 08 :
I couldn't agree more. I mean, there's a long story behind kneeling for the anthem. There were paid actors, Kaepernick being one of them. That's a long story that I don't have time for, but I do believe he's bringing people together. You know, the art of the deal. I do still have some questions about his cabinet. I really think if he's going to DO ANYTHING HERE IN COLORADO, THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO, WE SHOULD START HAVING SOME VICTORIES, FINDING SOME OF THOSE 325,000 PLUS MISSING CHILDREN THAT CAME THROUGH BIDEN'S, YOU KNOW, SURGE THE BORDER DEBACLE FOR FOUR YEARS. AND SO I REALLY HOPE THAT HE DOES SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. AND I HOPE WE CAN GET OUR ELECTIONS STRAIGHTENED OUT. I HOPE ALSO THAT With Colorado, he can leverage federal dollars to get some of this bad stuff out. But we'll see.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I totally agree. And, Corey, we have an amazing team that we're working with, and we are thrilled to have you as part of the group. And, again, that's the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. The website is coloradotaxpayer.org. And I think we'll take just a little respite, and then we're going to go to work on our ratings report, which we publish, which is a significant amount of work, but it is a wonderful tool. And CUT's been doing this, volunteers, all volunteers, since 1976. So, Corey Onazorg, you have a great day. Thanks so much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, and I hope all the listeners hope to see you at Jeffco Fairgrounds sometime this weekend at the gun show.
SPEAKER 15 :
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues. Through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams and empowers us to change our own personal climate. So to be warm when it's cold outside and cool when it's hot outside. And so greatly appreciate that. And then next Thursday, Teresa and I will be out at the USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament for lunch. And you can buy a ticket just for lunch. And because if you're not a golfer, that's you still want to partake and you still want to support the memorial. And, of course, if you're a golfer, I know Paula Sarles would really love to have you join them. And you can get all the information about all this at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That's usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is entrepreneur and owner of the historic 88 Drive-In Theater, Susan Kochevar. Welcome, Susan. Thank you. Good morning, Kim. How are you? Well, I am well. And it's the opening of the drive-in theater is right around the corner. But when do you think that might be? Well, this weekend is opening weekend as it would be. This is opening weekend. Awesome. Okay. And what are you going to be showing?
SPEAKER 16 :
So we have the Minecraft movie and the second feature is called Sinners.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. And I actually have seen Minecraft and a lot of kids love it and a lot of big kids love it too. So that's a great way to open up the 88 Drive-In Theater. So what's the hours and how can people get tickets and all that kind of stuff?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, we only sell tickets at the box office for each night showing. The ticket price is $10 per person and children under 12, so it's probably one of the best deals in Denver for family entertainment, plus you get two movies for that. Although if you bring kids, you either want them to be asleep before centers or probably take them home. It's not recommended for children. But it's a good night out. The box office opens at 7 p.m. We expect to be fairly busy this weekend. One of the Denver influencers picked up our Facebook ad, and it went viral on TikTok.com. and Instagram, over 200,000 views.
SPEAKER 15 :
So we're going to work hard this weekend. Oh, my gosh. So you've got that vintage popcorn machine ready?
SPEAKER 16 :
It's all ready, yes. We're just scrubbing everything up, getting everything ready, and we're very excited.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I know. I'm a popcorn connoisseur, and I know that you have the best popcorn that I've ever had. So I'll give you that endorsement.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. And you learn to make popcorn with our old popper. So it is a gas fired popper. It's pretty cool. It's made by a company called Craters. And they couldn't believe that that model was still in operation somewhere. It's that old.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, that's so cool. But the other thing that you do, you're an entrepreneur, owner of the 88 Drive-In Theater, but you also are, you've run for office several times. You really have an understanding and perspective that I love to have you share on the show regarding what's happening in our world. And last week we had Jay Davidson on and we were talking about tariffs. And you really look at tariffs a little differently than Jay does. And I thought, let's start our discussion with Trump and tariffs and your thoughts on that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Sounds great. Well, and I love Jay and he's very smart and very right about tariffs. We just probably disagree on this one issue. So I want to start by saying that because he's really a good guy.
SPEAKER 15 :
He is. And so why do you see it differently?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I understand what our free market friends are trying to say. They like free markets. They see trade as a way to get along with other countries and sort of have a calm world, I think. And while I definitely understand that, and we want certainly free trade among the states in our country, I think when you're dealing with other countries, it's a different situation. We have countries like China and even India and countries as close as Canada who don't follow or don't understand free trade. They're not going to do that. They're more authoritarian. They control their economies. And I think some of them use economics and tariffs to attack Or, yeah, I guess attack is a good word. Attack the United States. Or, yeah, I just think that's probably a good word for that. And I think Trump is a businessman, not a politician. And he's not even an economist. He's a businessman. And he understands how things work. And I think if he'd have his brothers, there would be no tariffs going back and forth on any countries at all. But what Trump is doing is using the tariffs as a negotiating point. And I was talking to an engineering company last week, and they were saying when they sell things to a country like China, for example, they have to discount their tariffs. technology, 35% in order to sell it to China, because China has a 35% tariff on anything, other products coming into China. Now, that 35%, that engineering company has to discount only to China, because it's different with other countries, could go for American jobs, It could go for developing technology more. So in that way, I think that China's 35% tariff hurts our country.
SPEAKER 15 :
So does that make sense? It does. So talking about China, I know that Americans, they demand, they want a good product at the cheapest price that they can purchase it at. And I think that because of public policy that we have made employees so expensive to hire people. And so we've made labor so expensive that companies, because of consumer demand, moved out of the United States to do manufacturing because they could – produce it cheaper in a different country, but also Americans are demanding that cheaper price as well. What do you think about that connection?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think consumers always look for the best quality for the least amount of money they can pay. That's certainly reasonable, and economics bears that out for sure. So I don't fault Americans for that, but what I think has happened is that our politicians have essentially sold us out in a lot of ways. I think China and other countries have paid him off and got them to buy interest into companies in China and other countries. And when you have a politician who has his interest in another country, his business interest in another country, it behooves him to pass legislation to make it more difficult for competitors in the United States to to compete with his business interests in China. So yes, I think our taxation and regulations have gone sky high. And so we can't compete certainly with countries like China who have essentially slave labor and maybe even countries like India who have a lot of people to work. I mean, just sheer numbers. So I think it drove out our industry and it's slowly choking off our businesses in this country. And one of the things that I think those politicians and others have been busy spreading in our country is this saying, oh, well, you know, we don't want to go backwards to a manufacturing society. That's looking backwards. We want to be, you know, a service-based country. And that is not sustainable. That is something they want everybody else to parrot. It is in our best interest to have manufacturing in our country. Those are good jobs, solid jobs. We can look at places like Pittsburgh, who has just been devastated because the manufacturing left because it was so much cheaper to manufacture in China and other countries. When you have manufacturing in this country, not only does it provide jobs, but it is a national security interest. It's a vital importance. You can't have everything manufactured steel and everything else in all these other countries because as we know, some of the leaders of these other countries are not reasonable. In fact, they have nefarious intentions and that is their way of, heck, we saw it in China where we got dog food that was killing our dogs. We found that some of the other things that come from China to feed our children have lead in them. They just don't hold the same manufacturing standards But also that could be used as a way to slowly kill us off. So we want to bring that manufacturing back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and it is really important that we, as you mentioned, from a national security standpoint. And so I want to drill down just a little bit before we go to break, and that is making labor more and more expensive. And you see that with these forced minimum wage laws. And we talked a little bit about this yesterday, but the very first bill – that was introduced uh here in colorado of the legislative session was house bill 25 1001 enforcement wage hour laws and it says it's uh concerning the enforcement of wage and hour laws and in connection there with making an appropriation now it sat out there for this whole legislative session and i think that it had second reading uh i i think it's going to make it through uh Today, I guess. I can't quite figure out exactly what's happening. But I think it may be approved today. And I thought yesterday was the last day, but it's today, I think. But the representatives on this, they're all Democrats. Representative Monica Duran, Representative Meg Froelich. Senator Jesse Danielson and Senator Chris Kolker. And again, this is government getting in between the employer and the employee. And all that does is it makes it more difficult for the employer to hire people. And so ultimately, there's less people that will eventually have jobs, as you and I've learned from the forced minimum wage conversations we've had.
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100%. You look for ways to reduce staff. And don't forget, they've added that family leave onto the payroll also. And now I have to track how many weeks each person works because that's counted into the numbers. Now, I'm a tiny business and I still have to pay that. I have to match what my employees pay. And it also takes away some of the pay that the employees would receive from me because they pay a percentage of that too. So it really hurts these people who are trying to get into the employment market with a first-time job, and the pay is not very high. Or even somebody who just wants to supplement their income, you know, they just make less. And it really hurts everything.
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Yes. And so, again, this is House Bill 25-1001. And that was the enforcement of wage hour laws, which Colorado used to be in the top, I think, top five, according to the Leeds School of Business at CU, for economic growth. We're 41st in the nation now, and it is because of the policies of this governor, of this mayor of Denver, and many of these other mayors as well. around in the Metro Marist Caucus. And so that's why we need to continue to keep an eye on all this. And we do that because of the show. Show comes to you because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Susan, you and I have watched this case with Tina Peters and have texted back and forth on some things. And Trump putting out some posts on X to try to put pressure on Polis to pardon her and set her free, I think, is a great new development. What's your thoughts about all of this that's happening with Tina Peters?
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I agree. And just looking at some of the comments on some different social media, I see there are quite a few people who do not quite understand what was going on with Tina. And, you know, county clerks are responsible for making sure that the election was fair and maintaining the voting records for, I think it's about two years. And that's what Tina was trying to do. She knew that when Jenna Griswold came in, the Secretary of State, and did what was called a trusted rebuild, it would overwrite all of the voter records. And she was not, by law, she could not allow that to happen. And essentially, she has caught them trying to override those so that they cannot So it's hard to prove that there was election fraud.
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So there was processes that were put in place that would prevent clerks from having access to the voting tabulating machines. And Jenna Griswold had, as you mentioned, was going to do this trusted build. And I think Tina even asked a question about was there a possibility that some things could be – And so she, as you say, she knew from federal law she needed to maintain those records. But in order to access the machines, because of processes that were put in place here in Colorado by I think the Secretary of State or the legislature, I need to research that a little bit. She needed to get access to the machine to do that. So granted, it was an avant-garde way to do it, but she felt that she needed to do it. And when I've had people say, well, she broke the law, I said, well, at the founding of our country – for example, throwing the tea overboard in the Boston Harbor, that was against the law too. But sometimes laws are not right. And she had to make a decision on that, Susan.
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Yes, well, she was caught between two laws. She was caught between federal law and state law. And I will argue that the Democrats put the catch-22 in there so that they can control the elections. You know, I expressed before that I felt that one of the, I could tell one of the races that I ran, the election had been gerrymandered because the total came out at 7.20 p.m. of the votes and never changed. Now, in a true election system, that would not happen. It would change throughout the night, and then you would come up with a total. The previous two were not that way. So I found that very odd. And that's when I really knew that something was going on. That was also when a truckload of ballots went missing in Adams County for a week. So we have some problems and I know that and Tina was caught in that catch 22. And she did, I think, you know, what is that they call that in Star Trek, Kobayashi Maru? There's two choices, and neither one of them are really good, so you can just do the best one you did. You could. And look what it cost her. Now, that's a federal election. So I think Trump actually has standing to go after the state of Colorado for those laws and to free Tina.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I think that's why the two lawsuits that we all you listeners got got funded before the last election that we got those those filed. And one was United Sovereign Americans that says that Colorado is not meeting the minimum standards. as set forth by Congress for our elections. And it's a civil rights issue. And the other is with Peter Berninger with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, which we have proof on Election Day under NIVRA, the National Voting Rights Act. As you get closer to the election, there's fewer things that you can do. So you have to be really targeted. So we looked at some specific voters And we found 14,500 on our targeted list that should not have received ballots who voted. We have those lawsuits filed. And Susan, I know you helped us with that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, those lawsuits are the most important thing that can happen right now. If we do not get our election system sorted out, we can have the greatest candidates in the world, but they will not get elected. You know, and one of the things I think that happens is you'll see that we'll get a few good candidates and then the rest of the Republicans elected and the rest will be all Democrats. And that helps to keep the image that the elections are not stolen, right? So you do have to watch that. The one thing I always tell people about evil, because stealing elections and doing the things that they're happening to us is evil, evil, sometimes good. because then it's harder to put your finger on it, isn't it? And that's what's happening. So we win a few elections, but look what's happening at our Capitol. Look at the behavior and the laws that have been passed. It's terrible.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I'm concerned, as I was looking to see, try to find this thing, whether or not Polos had said no, this came up from about 50 days ago from the Denver Post, And Krista Kafer, she used to be a Republican, I think she's unaffiliated now, but she'd been a radio talk show host, and she writes regularly in the Denver Post. She was one of the Republicans that had been on the lawsuit to try to keep Trump off the ballot. And she's written a piece that is titled, No, Tina Peters should not go free only a few months into her nine-year sentence. And what I've seen with some of these consultant Republicans are that they're being told to not weigh in on the difficult issues, to stay away from social issues, to stay away from elections questions. And I think that and just talk about the economy. I don't think that's a winning strategy. And I also think that we're in significant decline. We've got to get people back into office that are representing the people and also will take on these difficult issues. And I tossed that out there, Susan Kochivar, and now you have about a minute to comment on that.
SPEAKER 16 :
I think that's right. You know, one of the things I think that gets missed is you have a Republican Party and you have a Republican platform, and that platform has a whole bunch of things, including social issues. If you do not agree with those, why are you in the Republican Party? And Republican candidates and legislators need to be held accountable to that Republican platform. Otherwise, form another party or go to the Democrat Party and support their platform. But the party platform is the outline of the things the Republican Party supports. And I know one of the things I've watched them do in Texas is start to say to candidates, or actually legislators who do not follow the party platform is we're going to censor you and you will not be able to run again on the Republican ticket in Texas because Texas is having some issues as well. So I think that's a good way to hold legislators, Republican legislators, feet to the fire and to censor them and not let them run on the Republican ticket again.
SPEAKER 15 :
Boy, there's so much that we need to unpack on all of this, and we'll do that again next month. Susan Kochevar, very excited for the 88 Drive-In Theater to be opening this weekend, and so be sure and check out. What is your website? It's 88drivein.net, and we also have a Facebook page. Okay, 88drivein.net. Susan Kochevar, we will talk again very soon. Thanks, Kim. And our quote from Patrick Henry said this, The liberties of the people never were nor ever will be secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Wednesday, Kim.
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It seems like we were just doing this just a minute ago.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, good morning, Kim.
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Well, Lauren, I'm going to embarrass you, and I'm going to embarrass Karen tomorrow. But it came in through our email, and I called the listener to ask if I could read this on the air because I thought this was really special, and he said yes. And this goes like this, Lauren Levy. Kim, just a note of thank you. I recently consulted with Karen Levine and Lord Levy on a residential real estate problem faced by my son and his wife. They own a home which has painfully overextended them financially. And I asked Karen and Lauren to speak with them about a strategy going forward with the view of either selling the home or keeping it. Both Karen and Lauren got right on it, contacted my son and worked with him to set up a strategy to help him keep the home. I cannot tell you how helpful they were. Their input has helped my son and his bride to find a way to tighten their belts, keep their home, which is what they wanted to do if possible. As sponsors of your show, I just wanted to let you know about Karen and Lorne and their incredible professionalism. They helped me and my family selflessly and with compassion. I am touched and thankful to have met them through your show and wanted to thank you for your efforts. Keep up the wonderful work you do every day. lauren levy i imagine you're probably blushing uh but what i i'm really speechless on this and what a great testament to the great professionalism of both you and karen and as i say on the show i know each of my sponsors personally and they strive for excellence and this is just a great testament to an to it lauren oh no that was that was tremendous to hear um
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You know, without going into individual situations, when you and I talk every week, we basically say it's worth a phone call, you know, always call, but I tell people we won't steer you into a loan that doesn't make sense, right? And that's kind of what happened in this situation. They needed some help, but right now with the rates to where they are, they can't really get help on my end from lowering their payment. But they did think that they were upside down in their house and were able to determine that they really weren't. And that staying in there and hanging in there probably was the best thing for them to do, which was nice. That's where Karen and I collaborated together. But I tell people there's opportunities when you don't think there's opportunities. And, you know, we will help you if you can be helped. But sometimes we can't. And we'll be honest with you if we can't. And that's what this situation was, basically. And, you know, now we have a feeler out there. And when the time does come and hopefully rates do come down a little bit more, then we'll try to help these guys better.
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Awesome. And that's what I really do just love about you and Karen. And I knew this, but it was just great to hear this from a listener. So let's talk a little bit about interest rates right now, inflation. What are you seeing with your ear to the ground on all this?
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You know, one thing I forgot to do yesterday was to text you because the Fed is going to announce today at noon the latest move, and normally we would talk tomorrow. But here's the reason I didn't do it this morning early is because the consensus is that not much is going to happen today again, that they're going to change their tone maybe and talk about future meetings. But I've told you many times the market doesn't like surprises, and I think if they lowered today it would be a surprise. to the market, which nobody likes to do. Um, I think they're, they're going to say that they're going to, um, cut rates more in the second half of the year. Um, and so that's what I expect. But as of right now, we've been range bound for, you know, going on, you know, maybe four to six weeks now where the rates haven't moved much either way. Um, I think part of the reason is that the tariffs have now been announced, but you know, then they had the 90 day moratorium on them while negotiations were happening and things. And, I think the market is just kind of waiting to see what's going to take effect, what's going to be implemented at the end of the day, and what effect that's going to have. And they're waiting to hear from companies. And while we have that, the 10-year note is just kind of drifting around. You know, in the high 420s, it got as high as like 450, 460, came back down a bit. So it's just kind of drifting around. So right now we've got some stability and things are just hanging out there.
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Okay, so while we're just drifting around, is there anything people should do to prepare if interest rates go down? If interest rates go down, will there be so much demand that they'll go back up? What's a strategy people should have?
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You know, if interest rates go down, I think there's buyers that are out there waiting. There are buyers that are buying now. The housing market is active and happening. We're in that time of year right now where there's a lot of activity. If interest rates go down, there'll be more activity. more buyers in the pool. So people right now that we talk about a lot, if you're looking and you're interested in moving and you can afford a home at these rates, and like I always say, when you get a rate today, you know what it is and you know it won't be any higher than that. And if you're comfortable with that payment, you can always refinance it to a lower rate later. But the biggest thing is to stay in touch with folks like us and get pre-qualified, know what your limits are, So that when you're out looking, if there is a minor adjustment, particularly in a worse way, if rates go up, then people like me can call and be like, hey, we might need to back off just a little bit. You know, rates just bumped up a little bit. But stay in touch with someone that's helping you with the financing to make sure that you know where rates are at the time when you finally find that home you like.
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Well, and the person they should be calling is you because you know that you take such great care of your clients. What's the best way for people to reach you, Lorne Levy?
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The best way is always just call 303-880-8881. And that's Lauren Levy, 303-880-8881. Lauren, thank you for being the professional that you are.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values website. located on the beautiful Riverwalk in Pueblo. And I would suggest that you visit the center. Take the kids down there this summer and enjoy the Riverwalk. There's great restaurants. Visit the center. See the portraits of valor of our Medal of Honor recipients. Talk about exactly what that means. and i would highly recommend that you check that out the website is americanvaluecenter.org americanvaluecenter.org it is wednesday so that means it is a trent luce wednesday and trent luce is a sixth generation farmer and rancher lives in nebraska but has been for well over 20 years shedding light on the people that feed and fuel us our farmers and our ranchers and how rural America, rural Colorado has really been under attack. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
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Hi, Kim. Thanks for having me yet one more week. How long have we been doing this? I think we started in 2008. No, we didn't. You had to think about it for a minute. Like, no, wait, wait, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
I wasn't on the radio in 2008, but it was probably three years, yes, two or three years.
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I'm thinking three years.
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Yeah, okay.
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We started talking about chickens. That was what the first conversation was about chickens.
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Well, and you said, Kim, Colorado's in trouble, and we need to be talking about this every week, and so that's what we're doing. So first and foremost, I always am intrigued to just hear where you might have been this last week and what you were doing.
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At this moment, I am in Vermilion, South Dakota, and I'm just stopped here because of an overnight. Last night, I attended a planning and zoning meeting in Knox County, Nebraska. and their planning and zoning is most likely going to make a recommendation to the county commissioners to put a moratorium on all wind and solar projects in knox county there were 250 people in attendance it was an absolutely fantastic crowd there were people on both sides of the equation but the people who are for it are getting a check and they want to talk about green energy without including excuse me all of the components that come along with the production, the manufacturing, and how intermittent electricity and what it takes to put these things in place is the farthest thing from green you can ever have. And most importantly, it's not reliable, not affordable.
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And let me just do a quick little advertisement then for A Climate Conversation, which is the documentary that was funded and put together, produced by Walt Johnson. And then also our great podcast series at A Climate Conversation dot com, where we really delve into these issues. And so I'd suggest people check that out. So continue on, Trent.
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And I had my three minutes and I walked through one hundred and seven thousand five hundred and sixty two dollars. What? Do you know what that is? No.
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$107,562.
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What is it?
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There was a baby in the audience that was 30 days old, and that's what that baby, along with 330 million other Americans, owe the federal government. Our federal debt is equivalent to $107,562. I'll correct myself. That was at $722 last night. It's continuing to grow overnight. And each American citizen owes the federal government, no matter how old you are, $107,562. How can we continue to fund these projects, which are 100% subsidy-driven? They're all production tax credits. It's the only reason they do it. If the production tax credit goes away, they abandon the project. And so that was my message to the Planning and Zoning Committee, many. And then I'm off today to Dickey County, North Dakota. where they have constructed and have operating an AI center, which is draining the resources of a local area. And they're already talking about expanding, even though they can't keep up with the power needs that is currently taking place.
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So what are you going to do about that when you're up there?
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We're going to bring awareness that, again, if they're asking for subsidies, this needs to stop. Right. The MO is always the same. Now, neighboring county to Dickey County, Lemoore County, yesterday morning I got a phone call from a person who presented at the county commission meeting, and they are taking the first step in creating a moratorium on wind, solar, carbon dioxide pipelines, and AI centers. These data centers are so draining to our resources. It's time people wake up and realize what's taking place.
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Well, and so everyone is so concerned about AI, but if you don't – the fact that it's taking so much energy to run that, one of the ways I think maybe to rein AI in a bit would be to really look at this energy component of that. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Next thing, Trent, and I was trying to find the headline and I couldn't find it, but I thought I saw something come across the wire that the couple that was being sued by, well, the federal government, the farmers.
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Not sued. Criminal charges.
SPEAKER 15 :
Criminal charges. Okay. I thought I saw that Trump pardoned them, but as I was trying to do a quick search for it, I couldn't find it.
SPEAKER 07 :
So you're, you're, you're mostly right. Um, You're talking about Charles and Heather Maude from Scenic, South Dakota, and we talked about them. Their family has been farming in this county since 1910. And it was determined last spring that they're farming 25 acres on each side of a fence that is not rightfully theirs. And instead of the Forest Service, the United States Forest Service, which is the land that's in question, Instead of coming and sitting down with them at the kitchen table and saying, look, we've we resurveyed and you've got 25 acres of your hay ground that's ours. Can we fix this? Instead, Travis Lunders, special agent for the Forest Service, stormed their place like he was breaking into a mafia drug deal and served them indictment papers on June 24th, 2024. And they were indicted. both charged with theft of federal property. If convicted individually, they charged them individually, not as a couple. If convicted, they would have each spent 10 years in prison and up to a $250,000 fine. We had, and I know that you and I talked about this after I went to see in South Dakota, state representative Liz May did a fantastic job. She's their state rep in the state of South Dakota. organized an event where 100 local families and supporters and friends and 17 state senators slash representative state lawmakers came to seeing South Dakota, had a meeting to talk about and bring awareness to what was happening to the mods. One week after that meeting, the Forest Service at the USDA, Forest Service is part of the United States Department of Agriculture, It garnered the attention of Brooke Rollins with the USDA, and they flew the mods to Washington, D.C., in the White House two weeks ago now. And they made a big announcement that all criminal charges have been dropped against the mods. And they had the mod family there. The South Dakota delegation at the federal level was so embarrassing, including Kristi Noem, the governor at the time these charges were brought about. You know, Kristi Noem, if you follow her as governor, she did nothing behind the scenes. She had a $50,000 media trailer. She wanted to be in front of that camera every single day. And she stood in front of the nation and said, I was working behind the scenes at trying to get this fixed with Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack. Kim, Kristi Noem didn't even have her extramarital affair behind the scenes. That was out front and center. This woman is all about publicity. And the current governor, Larry Roden, spoke. Senator Mike Brown spoke. Dusty Johnson spoke, who's the representative from South Dakota. And we had Kristi Noem, the former governor. And then there was a U.S. representative from Wyoming, Harriet Hageman, who spoke. She's the only one of those individuals who did anything to try to help the MoDs before this situation occurred and before the USDA dropped all criminal charges. She's the only one when she spoke did not take credit for it. And so the good news of the day is that criminal charges against Samadz have been dropped. I am concerned that's not the end of the story, but we'll stay tuned for what develops next.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and we've got just a couple of minutes, but Kristi Noem, first of all, she is pretty gorgeous. And she seems to me like she's doing a pretty good job as the Secretary of Homeland Security. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, she has her purse stolen at a restaurant with $3,000 cash in it by an illegal person. What are the odds that happens, Kim? She's in a restaurant in a legal that she's supposedly taking out of this country, steals her purse that just happens to have $3,000 cash in it. Let's stop and think about how practical this is. The woman's a fraud. I don't trust anything she says. And I've known her personally for now coming on five years.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is kimmunson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I do thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show because it's reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy from oil, natural gas, and coal that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. And Trent Luce, we are having a wonderful rain. We had about 24 hours of rain here in Colorado. Are you guys getting any rain while back at the farm in Nebraska?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, in fact, I've been getting daily updates from people who are looking at long-term weather forecasts for a big chunk of the Great Plains and the food-producing region, and nobody is talking about a good year in terms of moisture in 2025. In fact, just before we started, Kim, I had somebody from Iowa send me a note that they are predicting highs and lows to be parallel to what it was in 1936. in one of the last years of the Dust Bowl, and highs over 100 every day and lows at about 80.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow. So those that want to talk about climate change will use this as an example of climate change. How would you respond to that?
SPEAKER 07 :
The Grand Canyon was created by a glacier melt. It created erosion that will never be repaired again. And we somehow want to talk about a summer of 100 degree temperatures as a result of climate change. I don't think you're very good at history if you want to talk about we are causing climate change.
SPEAKER 15 :
okay well and but through this narrative of climate change which walt uh the movie that we did a climate conversation is so important uh for this time and and co2 we talk about co2 on a regular basis co2 has been called a greenhouse gas which is bad but yet we know out here in colorado in the greenhouse grow houses for marijuana They put CO2 into it so that the plants will thrive and prosper. So greenhouse CO2 has been demonized, which actually from the – in the documentary, I think it was Gregory Rydestone said it's really the miracle molecule. So – that kind of sets us up here for this article that you sent over to me. This is from union rail and it says farewell to oxygen on planet earth. NASA scientists predict earth's atmosphere will lose its ability to sustain life. Photosynthesis photosynthesis will collapse as CO2 declines. Uh, So we're all going to die, huh? Well, I guess we are anyway.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, if you read the whole article, they're talking about what's going to happen in one billion years.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know. And it's like they can't get the weather right in the next 24 hours. How can they tell us what's going to happen in a billion years?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but the point that I wanted to kind of emphasize is, We have not just the federal government. We have a world that is talking about burying CO2 because it is creating a warming of the earth. Okay, number one, that's problematic because one of the 17 commercial uses for CO2, if we capture it and use it in the commercial sector, not compress it and put it in a pipeline and then bury it a mile and a half deep under earth, is dry ice. because it is 90 degrees below zero and so somehow a cooling molecule which by the way i would agree 100 is a miracle molecule that is responsible for creating cold beer and other carbonized products in a canister that keeps it cold that's what it does and yet this is causing earth to warm But more problematic than anything, when you talk about burying, which the United Nations has said they want 325 trillion tons of CO2 buried by 2030. When you have you nailed it with the greenhouses, not only the marijuana grow houses, but greenhouses that are in the commercial business, they add and they will run upwards of 700 or 7.7 percent. We're 430 percent. parts per million of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere, they'll run 700 parts per million in a greenhouse because the more CO2 you have, the faster the plant grows, the less water the plant needs to grow, and the more oxygen that is emitted from the plant. It's called photosynthesis. That's how God made it. It works out fantastic. And yet we want to bury this miracle molecule and somehow think that we're going to have the same amount of photosynthesis in plants. Well, if you continue to bury CO2, you are going to run short on oxygen because that's where oxygen is generated from the photosynthesis in these plants. It's just basic science that every fifth grade student understands, Kim. And yet all of our policymakers are throwing tax credits at this like they can't get to them fast enough. And we come back to $107,562 per person at 722 last night.
SPEAKER 15 :
So these tax credits and tax incentives, I think a lot of this goes all the way back to the progressive amendments to the Constitution, and one of those was the income tax, which, what was it, 1914? Thirteen. Thirteen, okay. And so you put in this tax, and then the next thing you know, there's going to be all kinds of different ways that some people will get a break. So what happens then is that the PBIs are now in control. And I think that we – well, first of all, we've got to get rid of all these government grants. We've got to get rid of all of these tax incentives, lower taxes across the board. That's how you create an even playing field. And as I'm saying, tax incentives and these – lower taxes. I don't think we should have nonprofits and many of these NGOs, nonprofits, in air quotes, it's not that they're nonprofits. They have all kinds of money. It's that they just don't pay taxes. And so I think that we just lower all that across the board, get the economy going, stop the government spending. And I think that we could get this ship turned around for sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, and that's the problem. I agree with you 100%. And that's the problem I have with the Trump administration the way it is today. They're pretending to slash programs, eliminate grants, do all of these things that need to be a part of what we're doing. But at the same time, the USDA is looking at a 342% increase in farm subsidies in the calendar year 2025. You can't talk about one thing and then be doing the other thing, which is creating more dependency.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yes, and with dependency comes control. And so many of our farmers and ranchers are being squeezed. And so we have to look at the real reason that they're being squeezed. And we've talked about it, and that is property taxes. And so you tax them like crazy, then you give them subsidies to try to help keep them in business, and then government controls everything. We got to get this turned around. And I like. So let's talk a little bit about Harvard. This has been fascinating to watch the Trump administration with Harvard. And it's so it's interesting that Harvard there's they're wanting to hide behind free speech and and. Free speech, I think, is really important, and free speech means that people can say things that you don't like, but we don't have to be paying them. I had no idea that Harvard was getting this kind of money from the government. And out here in Colorado, I know that our state universities and colleges are getting money from the state government. This is not how it is supposed to be, Trent Luce. And I do really, I'm very excited about the Trump administration shedding light on this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you remember the Charles Lieberman story?
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Harvard professor who was doing work in nanotechnology research.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I do, I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
And he was with China. We determined that he was getting $80,000 a month cash. From China. Right. And he was actually doing nanowork nanotechnology work on how to create a chip to insert into a human brain. And the irony of this whole situation is that he's in prison today, not because he was getting money from China to do work at Harvard, because he lied about it. He was getting the money in cash and he lied to federal authorities. This educational system is just flawed at every turn. I've witnessed the land-grant institutions, the great land-grant institutions, which literally built the United States agricultural system to be what it is today. And today they're all chasing grants and funding faster than the horses ran at the Kentucky Derby, that they can't stop talking about whatever the new buzzword is, I spoke in upstate New York last year in February. I watched Cornell University, which has been one of the fantastic land-grant universities, and they couldn't stop talking about how we must study climate change. We've got to figure out what's going on with climate change. That's because that's where all the USDA money was going at the time. We've got to stop chasing money like a bunch of ambulance chasers at our universities.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and you unpack that a little bit more. Those PBIs that were in charge of giving these grants, and I've learned the green in the Green New Deal is the green that's going into all these PBIs' pockets. They're not creating a... They're not creating anything. They're living off of all of us. So they get this idea, they scare everybody that the earth is going to be destroyed because of human beings. But in order to really push that narrative, then they need to get, I have this in air quotes, credibility so you need to have universities and do these studies and say this is what we found well when the money is connected to the people that want you to get a specific answer you're going to get that specific answer but it has become this huge this huge boondoggle yeah I was gonna say farce but boondoggle the word of the year the word okay I'll have to use that And so shedding light on this, and I was talking with Producer Joe about it yesterday. So not only do you have these universities that are getting all of these grants and all of this money, then they're nonprofits, so they have all these endowments. where people have given money and they get a tax write-off to do so. And then you have the government over here, and this was with the Obama administration, take over the student loan industry now. And it made it so easy for kids to take out loans that they hadn't really thought about just what it would mean to pay it back, telling kids, That if you got a college education, you're going to get a better job. You're going to have better wage earnings throughout your whole life. And then kids take on the debt and many of them get out of college. They're like, they lied to me. And so you have really a number of different things going on here. But these professors are getting paid healthy salaries. These kids are taking on this debt over here. It's subsidized. They're taking all this federal money, and they're nonprofits. There's something really wrong with this picture. And they're teaching people to hate America, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
I couldn't agree more. The education system is flawed and completely needs to be restructured.
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SPEAKER 15 :
It is a great day to be alive, and it's a great day to be engaged in this battle of ideas that's raging in our country. Before we continue the discussion with Trent Luce, I wanted to mention the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is the U.S. MC Memorial Foundation, and they're having a golf tournament a week from today. And I'm not a golfer, but I am going to go out there for lunch. So you can do that. You can actually buy a lunch ticket. And I would love to have you join us out there. You can support the Marine Memorial, meet some great people. And, of course, if you're a golfer, my understanding is the Ridge is a beautiful course. So check that out. And then also the Center for American Values located in Pueblo is doing such amazing work. They're focused on these principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism, and those are things that we used to teach our kids in school, and we really have gotten away from that. And Trent Luce, here in Colorado, we're just done with the Colorado State Legislative Session, and I know you've watched from... afar, but it's been absolutely crazy stuff here. There's things that have gotten a lot of attention, but as the president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, we see all of the legislation that is proposed. There were 733 bills or resolutions that were introduced this legislative session here in Colorado, Trent Luce, and the CUT All-Volunteer Board introduced took positions on 261 of those, and we look at these bills through the lens of how does it affect the taxpayer, education of our children, property rights, and protecting Tabor, Colorado's taxpayers' bill of rights. So I know people looking out, I talk with people outside of Colorado, they're like, what is going on there?
SPEAKER 07 :
You could say that with a lot of states. Illinois has suddenly taken a whole new level of stupidity with Governor Pritzker, but the I think your first sentence summarized the whole thing. We're done with the Colorado legislative session. We're done with it. It's toast.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we've got to get engaged in these elections, and we're doing work on we've got to get to make sure that we can trust these elections. But there's some other things that's on your radar, and you've got a friend out in Nevada. So talk to me a little bit about him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, first of all, are you a taxpayer?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just looked up, and everybody can keep track of this, and I look at it daily just as a reminder where we're at. I mentioned it before. I said last night that at 722, when I looked at it, the debt per citizen was 107,562. It's now 107,567. It's increased by $5 since last night. But that is per citizen. It doesn't take into account the illegals, by the way. But there's also a line here with a debt per taxpayer. So if you're a taxpayer, as opposed to that baby that I referenced earlier, your payment due to the federal government at this moment is $323,050. That's what you owe the federal government. Just thought I'd shed a little light on that for you.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's the federal government. And just think of all the other things that we pay taxes on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. So The reason I wanted to mention Hank Vogler, my friend from Nevada, who's been on my Rollout radio broadcast for 19 years every Monday. He's continually a target. He runs sheep. He runs cattle, mostly on Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service land. So last week or two weeks ago, when Brooke Rollins, Secretary of Agriculture for the USDA, was talking about dropping all criminal charges against the Mauds, She went out of her way to say that we have created a portal. And if you know of someone or you have been targeted by an overreach of the federal government, and of course they blame Biden, but these things all go way back beyond Biden, then we want to know about it and we're going to fix it. I don't personally know anybody who's been targeted more than Hank Vogler. There's only 12 sheep men left. in Nevada and he's friends and just pulled some bucks out of Meeker Colorado and so everybody in the western part of Colorado from a sheep standpoint is dealing with the same thing they rely on temporary agricultural workers H2A workers Hank has typically 20 to 22 H2A workers at one time most of his come through Peru most of them some of them have been with him for 25 years And he's just developed his loyalty and his bond. Well, he has been audited four times in the past seven years, audited by the Department of Labor. And they have now assessed, because of their audit last August, that they are going to fine him $42,620.22 plus remove his H-2A workers for three years because of three infractions. And this is where you say, well, what did he do, Trent?
SPEAKER 15 :
What did he do, Trent?
SPEAKER 07 :
He has a bunkhouse that is nicer than this hotel I'm staying in in Vermilion, South Dakota right now that he provides. He built a bunkhouse while he was still living in a tar paper shack. I mean, literally, I stayed in this tar paper shack when Hank had this place when I first went out there. And they find him because in this bunkhouse, he has beds and a commissary. And it's just this beautiful place. The beds were five inches too close to the floor. They went out to sheep camp because in sheep camp, you have these H-2A workers, usually in pairs, that live in a sheep camp, which for those that don't know, that's just like a recreational camper, but it's a sheep camp. It's got everything. It's completely controlled. It's got Wi-Fi. It's got solar electricity. It's got everything you can need. So they go out there and inspect sheep camp, and they saw a bucket of water sitting that the horse drinks out of, that the person who tends to the sheep has a horse, and a bucket of water was there. They included that because the water could become stagnant and attract mosquitoes. And the third infraction was that there was a four-pound bag of rice that had roughly a pound left in it. It was wrapped with a cotton tie, but it was not in a sealed container. Those three infractions have led to a potential 40, he's been told he has to pay a $42,620.22 fine, plus lose his workers for three years that will put him out of business. And on top of all of that, he is being targeted because of Southern Nevada Water Authority, which is a government agency based out of Las Vegas, which is taking, buying ranches, taking water, the water rights that come along with the purchase of a ranch, And they are now receiving livestock grazing permits to run livestock on the places that they're buying when they're really just buying them to get the water. It is blatantly a violation of the U.S. Forest Service handbook. I read it again this week. I put it together in my column. It lists the eligibility, and it clearly says that you must be a citizen in order to achieve a Forest Service permit. This is a government agency permit. So Hank Vogler has gone to the portal. He has submitted why he is being targeted by this overreach of the federal government. And so I'm issuing this shut up or put up or shut up claim to Brooke Rollins because she stood in front of everybody and said, we're going to fix all of these overreaches. There's no bigger overreach than what Hank Vogler is dealing with. We will see what happens.
SPEAKER 15 :
So water is such an important issue in the West, and I'm going to have natural resource expert Greg Walsher on tomorrow to talk about water. But it seems to me if we really were serious about solving these issues regarding water, out here in the West, we might first of all go to California and say, hey, you've got all this water on your western coast. Why don't you start to work to desalinate water to provide for your citizens, which would reduce the demand of the water coming down the Colorado, which would help all of the states upstream from that. But it seems it's just not water. It seems like all these different things is that if we use creativity and innovation and really rolled up our sleeves to solve these problems, then these PBIs lose their power.
SPEAKER 07 :
One hundred percent. You just nailed it in the last sentence. It's the Delta smelt issue of California. I don't know how much you know about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
I cut my teeth on that and went out there in 2002, been working, trying to educate. There is no education. They know that the Delta smelt does not need that water. They simply want to remove the water from irrigation and food production for what you just said, control of the land and the resources.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that's why we are in, I really think, the third founding of our country. Trent Luce, we're in this big battle of ideas. Elections matter. They really matter here in Colorado. And that's why we're working on it. We got our two lawsuits out there and then also helped Holly Kaysen with their appeal to stop NGO lawfare. So we're engaged in this battle of ideas every day. And you were on this before most of us, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I also want to say thank you to Kim Munson's show and creating the opportunity because it sounds to me like with the champions that are in Boulder County, Colorado, that young people will once again get the opportunity to bring their horses and learn about life thanks to what you created in it last week. and Cindy Johnson and her team for saying we're not going to back down. That is what it's about.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know it. And we're going to stand for liberty. Liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. Trent Luce, it's always a pleasure. And just your final thought as we head into the week.
SPEAKER 07 :
It only takes one. Too many times we think we're just one person and we don't matter. It just takes one person to start a movement, to be a champion, and then we change the world and we have the re-founding of America, like Kim Munson said.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, Trent Luce, thanks for all your great work. We'll talk next week. Can't wait. Okay. And our quote for the end of the show is Patrick Henry said, The liberties of a people never were nor ever will be secure when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them. So, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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All right, welcome. Happy Wednesday, health and wellness. Yes, I'm your host today, Charlie Grimes, of course, my engineer. As always, Al Smith hanging around after his program today. He's on from 2 to 2.30 every Wednesday before we do health and wellness. And Al, welcome. How are you? I'm great, John. How are you? Good. Always a joy. And one of the things that Al and I were always discussing, okay, what do you want to talk about today? And I'm always open to what Al has to say because he's much smarter in this area than I, of course. That's why he's our financial guru, Golden Eagle Financial. For those of you who may be listening for the first time, you can always reach Al. Just go to klzradio.com. You can find him there. You can go to rushtoreason.com, drive.com. hyphen radio.com, you get the drift there. Pretty much anywhere I am, you can find Al as well. But Al, how do we stretch those folks that even attain retirement, they get there, how do they stretch those dollars that they may not be in full retirement or they are, but they realize that, well, I'd like to have these go a little farther. I'm really feeling well. There's no... health issues, and maybe I'll live a little longer than maybe I even initially anticipated when I set all of this up years ago. How do they stretch that out?
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Well, the reason that's a big concern, my show about a week or so ago was longevity, how we're living so much longer. And there are some strategies to make your money last longer. The most obvious one is is to postpone drawing your Social Security to age 70 because it grows 8% each year after age 67, which is like the full retirement age. And I wouldn't suggest that if you have serious medical problems because then you'd be postponing it and you may not be around to collect.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 18 :
If your health is good, postponing it will not only increase your benefits, but if you're married, your spouse will collect a survivor benefit based on the full amount of your benefits. So that's one of the most obvious ways of making your money last a little longer in retirement.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Now, for those that maybe they weren't able to do that, maybe they needed to take that Social Security a little bit earlier, they may be listening to us right now and saying, yeah, guys, I wish I could have done that, but I was not able to. For those individuals, how do they stretch those dollars a little farther? How do they make that work?
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, one of the things I talk to people about, and I don't tell them, hey, you need to move or anything like that. But some people think about moving anyway, downsizing. And if some people will move to another part of the country where they have children and grandchildren. And one of the things I recommend is not necessarily getting a townhome or condominium because sometimes the HOA fees can make up for any lower home value or mortgage or property tax that you might be saving.
SPEAKER 03 :
True.
SPEAKER 18 :
And if you move to an area close to your children and you're not familiar with it, definitely rent for a while before you decide if you even want to stay there or what part of that community you want to live.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. All sorts of ways to do that, and I know that a lot of folks listening, you know, you've got the ability to really maybe even on a short-term basis buy a used RV, stay in an RV park, rent a space for a while, all sorts of ways that you can accommodate that. The other thing that I would also suggest, this is coming from me, not Al. But maybe you've grown up and you've always spent your time in this Colorado area. And maybe the kids are still here and the grandkids are, so you want to live nearby. Well, we have areas in Colorado that are a lot less money to live in than this Front Range area. For example, you could go to the Western Slope. which is a lot less money to live in right now. It's about half from what I'm, and maybe some of you know better than I, I might get some corrections on this, but from what I'm looking at with the real estate market and so on, Al, is the real estate market especially is at least two-thirds, if not a half, of what it is over here on the front range, meaning you're only three hours away from the grandkids. you could effectively take what you're doing here cost-wise, maybe not cut it quite in half, but maybe shave a third of that cost off by going to the western slope, still be close enough to the kids, still live in a great area. By the way, the climate's a little better over there than it is here as far as the winters are concerned. So at the end of the day, there are those sorts of things you could look at as well and still not be that far away.
SPEAKER 18 :
Boy, you're absolutely right. I have a couple of clients in Palisade. I remember going out there one time in March when we had snow on the ground and they had their tulips popping up.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 18 :
So it's a much nicer climate. It's about 2,500 feet elevation instead of... 5,000 here or 9,000 in Summit County. And another area that is not thought of terribly highly until recently is the Pueblo area.
SPEAKER 17 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 18 :
That's very recently. There's some developments coming up out there.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're correct.
SPEAKER 18 :
And you're still an hour and a half from Denver. It's a little bit warmer because you're south.
SPEAKER 17 :
True. Good point. Point being, all of you listening, that you're thinking, well, I don't want to move away from the grandkids. And by the way, I get that. I understand that end of things. Now, I also would say this. There's a lot of places in America that you can live for a lot less money than here. And no offense, cars travel pretty fast. when you're not having all of the expenses we have here along the front range. And even airfare, Al, isn't all that expensive. And you might find that you actually come and go and see the grandkids as much doing that as you would if you lived here nearby. So not telling people what to do, you've got to do whatever works in your own family. But point being, think outside the box, I guess is what I'm trying to say, Al.
SPEAKER 18 :
No, I totally agree. Use your imagination. Some people, for example, they will begin to do consulting in whatever field they were in before they retired, like people who work at Lockheed Martin or software engineers. And the one thing I would suggest for them is begin that process before you fully retire.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. Great advice.
SPEAKER 18 :
That way you have... The people lined up and the opportunities lined up how you can do some consulting before you even leave your work.
SPEAKER 17 :
And as somebody that does some of that in the business world, I think what Al is alluding to is you can make an income from anywhere. Because in most cases, you don't have to see those people face-to-face. Occasionally, you may. You can still arrange those things, as I said a moment ago, even like seeing the grandkids. So you've got clients and things, Al, where you could still run around and see them occasionally on a face-to-face basis. But reality is most consulting across the country is done either phone or virtual with some sort of a Zoom meeting or something along those lines. So At the end of the day, you can do that from anywhere.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, you're absolutely right. And the one other thing is if you have some kind of hobby that you're really crazy about, you can turn that into a small business, whether it's travel, photography. If you're an accountant, you can do bookkeeping for small businesses and work 15 hours a week and make what people would make 40 hours at a low-income part-time job.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. Great advice. For those of you listening, please have all this dialed in. Some of you that maybe have entered into that and you're looking for additional advice, different ways to even do something with the money that you have, a lot of these ideas, Al could sit down with you guys on a face-to-face basis, and I would highly encourage you. to do that. Al Smith, Golden Eagle Financial. Again, go to klzradio.com or you can go to rushtoreason.com or really anything where I'm at, where I'm affiliated, my website, you will find Al. It's that simple. And I get a lot of folks that will just on a whim text me, hey, I know you had so-and-so on. How do I get a hold of them? You can always use the text line 307-200-8222 and I can put you in direct contact with Al that way as well. But Al, as always, I always enjoy having you on. I learn something every time I'm with you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, I'm glad you do, John, and if you want to call my office directly, it's 303-744-1128. When I'm not there, I do get voicemail, but I answer those very quickly.
SPEAKER 17 :
Al, as always, I appreciate you. We're going to do kind of a part two of this next month as well, so those of you that are thinking, hey, there's a lot more to that, yes, there is, and we'll cover that, Al, next month when I have you back. I'll save my notes. I appreciate it. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. Dave would love to help you with all of your window and door needs at your home. Find him today also by going to klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 17 :
We are back, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Appreciate you all listening today. Tim Keller joining us now, and he is from the U.S. Diabetes Care App. And Tim, there's a lot of folks out there listening, a lot of folks in general today struggle with diabetes. How can you help them?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, how are you doing, John? I'm good, Tim. It's great to be on. It's great to be on. So, you know, basically, U.S. Diabetes Care was founded 12 years ago. We started a brick and mortar in Morristown, Tennessee at the time, which was the number one demographic for diabetes. In the first six years of this company, we used lifestyle education platforms with different medical entities. And then to the point where I wanted to not even do something better clinically for diabetics, which clinical care was very poor. I wanted to also use our education platform within our system. Six years later, we reversed over 72,000 diabetics of type 2, type 3, vascular dementia, diabetes with our education platform that I now decided to scale and take to a public app, U.S. Diabetes Care, to kind of help diabetes around education.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow. By the way, big number. Thank you for doing that. There are, again, I guarantee you, Tim, a lot of folks listening to us right now that either, A, struggle with that. They could potentially have been born with that or something has developed as they've gotten later on in life. And as you know, it's becoming, and I talk about this a lot during this hour, but that's becoming one of the larger issues for Americans especially, and it is a killer. Am I right, Tim?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And the scary part is, John, it's a silent killer. Most people that have diabetes is asymptomatic. They don't have symptoms of diabetes until it's kind of too late. And when I mean too late, this is by the time they go to the doctor, they're already having internal issues from diabetes because diabetes is an external disease. And people don't know what I mean by that. It's actually a muscular disease. The cells live in the muscle that take the glucagon from the liver for energy. When those cells get malfunctioned, or they call metabolic disorder, insulin resistance, whatever they want to call it, that's the point where we need to take it serious. And people can't fix themselves, John, if they don't have education to fix themselves. The problem with westernized medicine, they go and sit in a waiting room for two hours. see a doctor for five minutes, doctors have less than eight hours of nutritional training in medical school. They're not helping a diabetic get educated.
SPEAKER 17 :
You are correct. One of those things, I'm glad you're here because we talk about these things in this hour on a routine basis. You are literally solidifying a lot of the things that over the past eight, nine years I've talked about during this hour because everything you just said is absolutely spot on. And, you know, we have crisis care in this country. We do not have health care.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it's been crisis care. This all started in 1950s when big pharma took over a big medical and said, hey, we can train your residents for you. Take that cost away. And then the way they educated residents was treat a symptom, not a patient.
SPEAKER 17 :
Exactly. Okay. So your app now enters into the public realm or the mass realm, I guess you could say. What is it? How does it separate itself from some of the things that And again, I'm not a diabetic, Tim, but I do follow enough things because of this hour where I know there's devices now where people can wear them and it'll monitor their blood sugar and there's an app for that and so on. What makes yours different from a lot of the others that are out there?
SPEAKER 08 :
John, that's a great question. What makes ours different is we're peer education. And it's not education about just what you put in your mouth. We talk about what you mentioned earlier, epigenetics. We talk about oxidative stress. We talk about, you know, healthy fats, bad fats. We talk about, you know, anxiety and stressors that cause, you know, all these things affect your A1C and your diabetes. And so what I love about our app is instead of having a bunch of gaming on there that people get lost in translation of just focusing on measures, we actually focus on fixing the mind through education.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. So I assume they download the app. Are there any other devices that have to go along with it? In other words, is there anything else they have to purchase? Walk us through how this works.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, there's nothing else they have to purchase. The app is $99.99 a year, very inexpensive to change your life. If people follow the education and do what's asked of them, even if it's 70% of what's asked, they will reverse diabetes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Interesting. So you literally are, it's almost like a high-end diet app, only it is on the focus, I guess I should say it's focused on the diabetes side. Am I right in thinking that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, you're 100% right, but John, more than that, we are actually Loma Linda Lifestyle Medicine Education, which is the Blue Zone. I mean, that's what our focus platform is based on. Our medical director, Dr. Daniel Castro, is a Loma Linda grad from lifestyle medicine, internal medicine from the VA. So you've got the best of both worlds. You've got a medical doctor with a lifestyle education. So we focus on that because at the end of the day, once again, power of the mind. You can fix anything in your body.
SPEAKER 17 :
Very true. Now, age-wise, does this matter if it's somebody that was born with diabetes and they're trying to get things under control versus somebody that has, you know, this has come on later in life or maybe, I say later in life anymore, Tim, and I know because we talk about this on these Wednesdays, some of this is happening for folks that are in their 30s and 40s where at one time it was double that age.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, the scary part is, John, it's happening with age. Juvenile diabetes now, type 2, not type 1. Type 1 is autoimmune, but we have children coming in our center because we see 10 and up that are 12, 13, 14, 15. Everybody thinks they're a type 1, but then when we bring them in and do random tests and things we do, we're like, this kid's a type 2 diabetic at 12, 13 years old. And 93 million pre-diabetics in the United States. You know what I say, John? You're not pre-pregnant. Either you are or you're not. Good point. This whole pre-thing drives me crazy.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, I agree. Thank you. It's one or the other, and I appreciate you saying that because I think we sort of steer people in the wrong direction or give them a false sense of security by saying you're pre-anything.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, John, I mean, there's no money in a cure. If we can get people believing that they're pre-diabetic, we can sell more drugs.
SPEAKER 03 :
True.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's not what US Diabetes Care's mission is. Matter of fact, John, we get everyone off insulin that's a type 2, type 3 right away. Insulin's poison.
SPEAKER 17 :
Really? So in other words, you're really teaching people in their lifestyle how to handle things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER 17 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you don't need insulin as your crutch. You don't need insulin as your crutch. You need education. If you go out and act out education along now that education also, you know, we talk about exercise through the epigenetics. You know, if you can incorporate the two through lifestyle and exercise, even walking, just pure walking, you're going to have a huge improvement in your diabetes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Amazing. Well, Tim, again, it was short notice getting you on. Normally I plan these things out a week or two in advance. You are a very short guest as far as notification and that goes. I, A, appreciate you accommodating us on a really short notice because, again, normally I give people a lot more time. But this was an area where I just felt like we need to get this information out to people. We here during this hour, we are really big on how can we do things on a – more collective basis, number one, but number two, without using big pharma, big healthcare, because I, like you, know that doesn't work.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, John, I'm 100% of greens with you. As a matter of fact, you can tell my passion. I'm very bold with the truth about big pharma and big medical. I've been in that system 35 years. I've seen all the pitfalls. I'm about loving people and giving them a better option for health care. Anytime you want me on for a longer period of time because we can get into the big and dirty, I'm happy to do that.
SPEAKER 17 :
I will definitely do that, Tim. I'll put things aside. Again, I know it's the first time you've been with us, but I appreciate it. You can tell as well that I, we are very passionate about these same things. And again, not that I am anti-health care or anti-pharma. I know there's a place for those things, Tim. And if you need to go in and get a heart valve fixed and things along those lines, I mean, I full well know that there is a place for that. But unfortunately, like I said earlier, we have got crisis care. We use it as a crutch. We don't do things correctly. Big pharma, big insurance is not teaching people how to be healthy. We think popping a pill is to be healthy, and that's not how it works, as you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Once again, you and I are speaking the same language. Specialty care, what you just said, orthopedics, heart surgeons, cardiologists, all that's needed if you get to that point. But crisis care is primary internal related, and it's terrible.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're right. For sure, Tim, I will have you back. We have folks on on a routine basis. I would love to have you be one of those, so we will definitely stay in touch. And, again, I appreciate your time last minute because normally we do it a little differently than that, but I really appreciate you taking time for us.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Sounds great.
SPEAKER 17 :
Tim, appreciate you. Have a great rest of your day. I appreciate that. And we definitely will have Tim back in the future. And again, U.S. Diabetes Care app. And you can look that up. Just go to either Google Play, go to your app store. You can find it either way. And we will definitely have him on again, a little bit longer segment. I'll put him on a 330 end of things where we've got a little bit more time with him that way. But I would encourage those of you that may be in that world where you're trying to figure some things out, that would be a great, great way for you to manage some things and, frankly, do some things outside of, as he said, big pharma and big health care. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al was with us here just a few minutes ago, by the way, helping you stretch your retirement dollars further. Al can do that, plus help you just plan on getting there, and then, as I said a moment ago, staying there as well. Find him at klzradio.com.
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We are back for this Health and Wellness Wednesday edition, which we do every single Wednesday. If you're tuning in for the first time, you maybe don't know that. But, yes, this is what we do every Wednesday for the first hour of our Wednesday edition. And it's Dr. Charles Antinori. Dr. Charles, welcome. How are you, sir? Good, thank you. Yeah, I'm feeling fine. Very much enjoy having you here. You fit right into what we talk about here every Wednesday, and that is the secret to fixing America's health care crisis isn't more technology, it's doing less. And I think I know what you mean by that, but please explain.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. As I said in the book, you know, we'd be a lot better off if we did less in the sense of, Ate less, especially less red meat and processed foods. Drank less alcohol. Smoked less tobacco. Took fewer drugs, both recreational and prescribed drugs. And basically, the last thing is less stupid behavior. Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
I'm laughing just because, again, I know where we're going with this because these are things we talk about on a pretty routine basis. I even personally talk about these. It's always nice to have an expert like yourself on backing a lot of that up. But the reality, yeah, don't be stupid. And I think, too, Dr. Charles, that we sort of – and we talk about this every Wednesday – And I talk about, you know, how we live in a day and age now to where we don't really have health care. We have crisis care. And so many people, you know, we run to the ER or to the urgent care for this, that, and the other. And in a lot of cases, Dr. Charles, there were ways where prior to that we could have done things differently and never been there in the first place. Am I right? Absolutely. I mean, I used to look at my list.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I'm starting to retire now, so I had time to write the book. But when I was working just recently, you know, it was only a year or so ago, You know, I'd look at the list and I would go down, you know, I'd have like 10, 12, 15 patients on my list. And I could go down a list and like at least half of them, 90% of their problem was like self-inflicted. You know, obesity being a big one, smoking, of course, being a big one, you know, alcohol, another one. You know, and then, you know, exercise is another one. Another thing that has really changed just in my lifetime, when I started out, I finished medical school in 1973, Harvard Medical School in 1973. All right. And at that point, if you had a heart attack, basically, you know, the treatment was to, you know, stay in bed for two weeks, you know, make oxygen, a little morphine and stay in bed for two weeks. You know, now, you know, you have a heart attack, you know, you're in bed for a day or two, especially if it's a horrible heart attack and you're really in heart failure and everything, you know, you have to stay in bed. But by and large, you know, most people, they encourage them to get out of bed and get moving around within a few days, even open, you know, he did open heart surgery. And, you know, we found that if you had to get people up in two, maybe not the first day post-op to have a million lines and pipes. Right, right, right. But as soon as you get all of that out, which is usually 24 to 48 hours, pretty much most of it is out. You should be getting the people up and walking around. And it's just so much easier. better for them and similarly you know exercise is another thing that really has has changed you know i remember like uh pitcher satchel page you know in the major leagues he was one of the first black guys to be pitching major leagues and he was always you know whatever you do never run you know uh big people used to believe in rest and you want to wear yourself out too much with exercise and now you know all the literature has come 180 degrees to where So exercise is a good thing. It's difficult to define exactly how much is ideal for each individual person, but there's no question that exercise on an almost daily basis is way better than no exercise at all.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and I appreciate you saying that because I think there's also a lot of fitness gurus out there that will tell you that, oh, no, you've got to bench press this, you've got to do leg lifts here, you've got to do squats, you've got to go to CrossFit, you've got to do that. I mean, everybody's got their thing, Dr. Charles, and I'm not – By the way, all of those I just mentioned, I'm not against any of those. But what I'm against is there is no blanket one size fits all for individuals. Some people do really well with CrossFit. Others do really well with, you know, yoga. Others might do really well just walking. And some are great runners. I'm not one of those, by the way. I don't have the physique for that. So reality is every person is different. And I think we get into trouble when we have this, you know, one size fits all. And, you know, you need to go do X, Y, Z because I do that. Well, no, what works for you may not work for me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, absolutely. You know, really, all the things you mentioned, I do, you know, I do a lot of these Beachbody routines. And they, you know, what's good about them is that they do it. You do yoga, you do a little bit of Pilates, you do weightlifting, do a lot of cardio, a lot of just, you know, push-ups, pull-ups, all of that sort of things. And most of the literature, you know, you do see supports all that. Now they're getting pretty scientific about it all. I mean, I try to read all the articles if I can on this stuff. And most of them end up saying, like, you know, you need to do cardio, but you also need to do resistance. In other words, you know, some weight training. And the best formula for most people seems to be do a little bit of everything. And don't just focus on one kind of thing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and I do think this, and I've said this many times, and I think the studies have shown, Dr. Charles, that if you can't do anything at least go get a walk-in or something about that body movement and walking and keeping your legs moving, which when you walk, you're balancing, you're keeping your, in some cases, heart rate up depending upon how hard you're walking, your arms are moving. You know, you're just doing different things. And if nothing else, Dr. Charles, your blood's flowing, your mental acuity is a little different. You know, just a simple walk can make the difference in a lot of people's lives.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, absolutely. Walking is a great exercise. It doesn't even have to be a fast walk. As you said, it gets the blood flowing. Again, I did peripheral vascular surgery, and we used to, you don't see many anymore, fem-pop bypass and things like that. But when you talk about people who do that for leg claudication, cramping in the leg when you walk, that thing. And the reason why that happens, that always happens when you start to exercise. And the reason that happens is because when you walk, your leg muscles take something like 20 to 30 times the amount of blood that they take at rest. And there's 20 to 30 times the amount of blood flow going to the leg muscles, and that's just a good thing. It sort of clears everything out, and it burns calories. It is a terrific exercise. And like I said, there's numerous, numerous studies. In the medical literature, and I'm not talking so much about the exercise literature, but just in the medical literature, as little as 20 minutes three times a week It gives way better results in terms of longevity and just about anything you can measure. That's an hour a week. That's not a lot, by the way. It's not much at all. No, it's not. Most things recommend a little more than that. It's difficult to come out with what's the ideal. amount of workouts, probably somewhere around three to five hours total workout a week.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and again, I know Dr. Charles, everybody's a little different. You know, some people live on, you know, I live on a five-acre property. I do enough chores on the weekend where I feel like at the end of the day, I don't know how many steps I've put in, but just walking... you know the property and getting all the things done they need to do just you know just in in you know this last weekend killing weeds and doing things along those lines you feel like holy cow how many times i walked this thing but my point is some people like me live there others live in an apartment whereby you know maybe you should be taking the stairs instead of doing the elevator if you live in that sort of a situation i mean there's all sorts of ways to get these things in I think the thing is just being purposeful and thinking about it at all times and not just doing it periodically but making that a part of your daily life.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely right. There's no question about it. You can work those things in. Tony, I'm very similar. Right now I'm going through the same kind of phase. I have a house in Cape May. It's only about a third of an acre, but it's a big house, and I rent it out. At this time of year, I'm just – work all day.
SPEAKER 01 :
Oh, I know. Getting the lawn in place. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Cleaning, painting, you know.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm crawling under the house pulling things out, you know, the supplies and everything. And at the end of the day, I'm, like, really tired and I sleep great. That's the other thing about exercise. That's right. And the other thing we should talk about, I guess, is sleep. Yes. You know what?
SPEAKER 17 :
Let's probably move into that because that's the thing that I've even had folks on here during this hour. We talk about, you know, sleep and some of the sleep studies. And another thing, again, I get it. Some need more than others. Some need a little less. We all need sleep. at least X amount of sleep, and I think each person knows what that is. Bottom line, though, Dr. Charles, is I don't think most people get enough.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, again, I'm not a sleep expert. The pulmonologist knows what the guys do all these sleep studies and everything. But, again, what I've read, and I know speaking from my own personal experience, most people it's somewhere around seven to eight hours a night. That's right. Seems to be the sweet spot. And like you said, everybody's different, and adolescents probably need more sleep. Kids, you know, different age ranges might need more. But there's a million different reasons why you need it. So your brain apparently needs it to process the events of the day. Your body just needs it to metabolize, you know, the things that build up in the system and just what needs to be excreted and everything. But it seems like it's, you know, it really is just very, very important that everybody gets in their sleep.
SPEAKER 17 :
Now, one thing that's in my notes, and I was going to ask you because this is something that, this is a topic I've never discussed during this hour in the eight, nine years I've been doing this, and that is don't over-diagnose and be careful of unnecessary tests. Explain what you mean by that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Well, you know, as I wrote in the book, it's amazing. I mean, we have tremendous improvements in diagnosis that I've seen, again, seen just in the 50 years that I practiced surgery with, you know, unbelievable. The first chapter I talk about, I worked in the emergency room and they bring in kids that supposedly bumped their heads. Half of them probably didn't even. And we'd examine them and there really wasn't a whole lot of testing we could do, but the only test we really had in a way was like skull films. And they didn't show anything. I mean, there was an article laying in the drawer of the emergency room that said that there were 10,000 skull films done that didn't show one unsuspected skull fracture. I mean, if somebody comes in with a hammer in their head or a big dent in their head, you know, you know, they're going to have a skull fracture.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, you know, the skull films really didn't didn't really pick up much. And at that time, they were like sixty five bucks a piece. I was getting paid about fifty dollars a piece for my twenty four hour for my twenty four hour shift, you know, in the emergency room. And I'd order five to ten unnecessary skull films just because basically you had to have to do it to get the patient out of the emergency room. And I talked to a program director about it. And he said, you know, he explained, I really thought it was crazy they were doing those. And he told me, get the skull films, you know, because everybody's so concerned about litigation and everything. As time has gone on, as time went on, the first CAT scan was basically just a head CAT scan. Now, the great thing about that is it is really, they are really good studies, especially now that they've evolved over 30, 40 years. And have gotten very, very sophisticated. People are very, very good at reading. And the tests have gotten more and more detailed. But it was a great thing because then you really could start to pick up, you know, the CAT scans pick up lesions in the brain, CAT scans pick up lesions in the lungs and the abdomen and everything. We would never pick up until it was too late and many times before. But along with that, you know, the litigation side of it, the malpractice, the concerns about malpractice have driven the use of these things to the extreme. I had a friend of mine, the emergency room doctors are kind of the most vulnerable. They have the biggest problem in a way that they don't know the patients. People come in, you know, and they have a problem. They have to take care of it quickly. And the easiest thing to do is to do these imaging studies. You know, it's the safest for them and it's the safest for patients. So they just, you know, they just run tests. I had a good friend of mine. When MRIs were relatively new, this would have been in like the early 2000s. I mean, they had been around for a while, but they weren't. They weren't that sophisticated. This was at a small local hospital. You had to go to a special facility to get it done. Somebody had to drive you there from the hospital to an MRI place. And this was like a weekend. There was an emergency room. And some young girl came in with some vague neurological symptoms or something like that. You didn't get an MRI. It turned out she was like a 12, 13-year-old girl. It turned out she had some kind of a spinal cord tumor. and ended up paralyzed from the thing, and naturally he got sued. It's one of those one-in-a-million kind of things. But that's the problem. The one-in-a-million thing happens, and so the doctors sort of get packed into a situation of trying to protect themselves. And again, the studies themselves are good. They pick up things that we never saw before. It's made a lot of fields just... breast surgery. You pick up these lesions almost before there are cancers in the breast. A lot of people are living from things that used to kill people all the time. But it involves an awful lot of testing that turns out to be I hate saying unnecessary, but overdone.
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it makes total sense. Now, one last thing before I let you go that's in my notes, and this one I was curious just on my own, so if I'm curious, I'm sure people out there listening would be. Robotic surgery, you say in here, before agreeing to it, ask some tough questions. What and why would we ask questions along those lines?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, the thing with robotic surgery, it is catching on more and more, becoming more, but I just finished reading, you know, as I said, I did heart surgery at I just finished reading an article talking about putting an aortic valve and doing a coronary bypass robotically through a small, I think they said four centimeter axillary incision, you know, a two inch incision under your right arm. And you get an aortic valve replacement and coronary bypass done. You know, it's amazing that technology exists to do that. They described this in one, it's not like a routine thing. They described it that they were able to do it in one person. But, you know, the thing about robotic surgery, I mean, robotic is just sort of an extension of laparoscopic or thoracoscopic surgery. Right, right. You know, the surgery is being done with the instruments. The only difference with robotic is that a robot is holding the instruments, you know, and the surgeon is directing the robot. So the surgeon is not scrubbed. But what's good about it is that you can actually sew inside the body and things like that, whereas like laparoscopically... When you try to sew, everything is kind of opposite because you're working on a pivot, like the pivot point is like the abdominal wall. So you've got an instrument going through the abdominal wall, and if you try to sew or something like that, you know, up is down and down is up and right is left and left is right. And it's amazingly difficult to do the simplest things like sew inside the abdomen or inside the chest. But with the robot, the instruments are all wristed. And, like, the name of the robot company is Intuitive, and it really is intuitive. I mean, it's relatively easy to learn how to do fairly complicated things inside the body. And also they have better visualization, sort of a little bit of a three-dimensional visualization. And, you know, it definitely has some advantages that make some difficult procedures, you know, possible. On the other hand, it's tremendously expensive, you know, to do. It costs only about $2 million. There's a lot of money, but the grand scheme is not huge. But the arms that they use have to be replaced every couple hundred procedures or something like that. And they're about $10,000 a piece or something along there. So it adds tremendously to the cost of these operations, especially when you start doing relatively simple operations robotically. Got it. On the other hand, like I say, some complicated operations like this heart surgery I was just telling you about can be done through much smaller incisions. The people, you know, get back to activities much faster. So it's a real work in progress right now is basically what it comes down to.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, like I say, getting a hernia done robotically, I'm not sure it is. A regular inguinal hernia done robotically, I'm not sure it's a big deal. Complicated ventral hernia, maybe a robot is better for something like that. Okay. Good to know. I think it's going to be something that's going to take time to figure out where it needs to shake down, basically.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right. Again, Dr. Charles, author of Make America Healthy Against Antarini, Lessons from a 50-Year Surgical Odyssey. Where do folks buy that, Dr. Charles?
SPEAKER 04 :
The company's publishing now is called the Ewing's Publishing Incorporated. But you can get it on Amazon or Barnes & Noble right online. Just put Antinori, like the wine from Italy, Antinori. You get my name and you'll find it, I'm sure. Awesome.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's been a joy having you. I've enjoyed talking to you. I've learned a lot, and I appreciate your time, Dr. Charles.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you. I say the same to you, Mr. Rush. Thank you very much.
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All right, we are back. A few minutes left of this hour, Health and Wellness Wednesday. Now, this is something that I have talked about in the past, but it's been a little bit since I've done it. But I saw something on social media today. It actually showed up in my Facebook feed. And I didn't say anything in this particular post because I don't want to be that guy. But I'm going to say it publicly. if you are in this case this was a realtor that because of graduation coming around the corner and so on this particular realtor and bless her heart she had signs printed up with her little logo at the bottom that were congratulating seniors in this particular area where she must service and it said something to the effect of you know home of a blah blah blah i'm not going to mention any names because i don't want to throw anybody under the bus but in other words the mascot's name you know home of a blank so if it's a trojan you know home of a trojan or home of a lion or home of a whatever the mascot might be for that particular school now some of you might say so what's the big deal well if you're putting that in your front yard which is the idea here, and it's a congratulatory thing, you know, home of a whatever, congratulations on your graduation, blah, blah, blah, you're literally publicizing to anybody that drives by, this is where my kid goes to school. And I get it, they're seniors in high school. Okay, I understand. Yeah, and thank you, Charlie. I also will be gone during that graduation ceremony. So there's two things here that are going on. Number one, you're leaving yourself very vulnerable because you're telling people that no one's going to be around this house during that time because we're all going to be at that graduation. And by the way, really easy to look up when the Lions graduation that's near that particular neighborhood, by the way, will be not that hard to figure out. Number two, you're telling everybody this is where my kid goes to school. Now, some pervert, and I'm just saying it as it is, could be driving by looking at a really cute girl that's leaving that house knowing that, oh, I know where she's going. I know where she's headed. And by the way, perverts can go both ways, could be male or female. I know where he's going. You get my drift here? We've talked about this in the past, and I know it's kind of a PSA, but please, if you're in that world, the business world, and I didn't want to say anything, and I almost sent a direct message, but again, I don't want to be that guy. And everybody was congratulating her on having these signs and so on, but nobody's thinking the way that I am. And maybe it's because I sit in this seat and can be kind of cynical at times because of the stories I read and the things that I bring to you from time to time. I would never put that in my front yard. And it's nice that this realtor is thinking that way, and they're trying to congratulate these kids. Now, keep in mind, it's a little self-serving because she's got her name at the bottom of it as well. So it's not all just for you and your particular student. She's getting some advertisement out of it as well, and it's a great idea. But I would never, nor would I suggest any of you ever put anything like that in your front yard, period, ever. I wouldn't even put anything up with balloons or anything congratulating my senior on graduating because the reality is I don't want anyone knowing where they're going or whether I will be home or not because of that event to what Charlie said earlier. I don't want anybody knowing I'm not going to be home at that particular time. So, bad idea. If you're somebody that's listening to me and you've done something like that, I'm sorry to say, and I hate to say you wasted your money, but... You wasted your money. You should not be allowing or giving those to your prospective clients any way, shape, or form. Just stop doing those things. All right. Health and Wellness Wednesday is over. We'll be back. Hour number two, Richard Battle, is next. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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And we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, how are you, sir?
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John, we're doing great. Thanks for having us back with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is May. Things are rolling by. It's graduation season. We'll talk about that here in a moment as well. But speaking of that, the old three R's were reading, writing, and arithmetic. What are the new three R's of success?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and as I tell people, I'm glad I was educated before the Department of Education was instituted. And these three R's were also taught to me. And one is resilience in failure, resourcefulness in identifying and adopting new ideas, and a relentless pursuit of our dreams. And those are the three we want to talk about.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, let's get into it. Where do we start?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, first thing is on failure. Worse than failure is regret. And generally regret comes from things that we don't try because we're afraid to fail or for some other reason. But the pain of regret lasts longer and is much deeper than the pain if we actually try something and fail at it. And so if we think we may fail and we're not going to try, we might as well go ahead and try because we'll know we gave it our best shot even if we don't succeed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and what you just say, I can't tell you how many times over the years, whether it's talking to fellow business owners or now that I consult with some and coach some and so on, that mental – how do I want to say this, Richard? That mental block I think at times that people get in their head of, well, what if I try that and it doesn't work? Okay, well, what if?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's exactly correct, and that's the thing. They listen to naysayers. They have the self-doubt. If we have ten successes and ten failures, we only think of the ten failures. We don't think of the ten successes. That's our human nature. And so we need to proactively look at people because most of the super successful people in life and in history have all failed multiple times and use that as stepping stones to learn things to make themselves more successful in the future.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I've always said it this way, and I think you have as well. That person never failed, never did anything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's exactly correct, and we see that especially today in public policy and protests and things of that nature, in that most of the people that are complaining and protesting have never accomplished anything whatsoever. And give me someone who's failed nine times and succeeded once, and I'd rather put my money on them to succeed the next time.
SPEAKER 08 :
I saw something along these lines, knowing what we were going to be talking about today, but I saw a social media post today. I can't remember exactly where I saw it, but somebody said something to the effect of, you know, I would rather learn from somebody that has failed in business how to run my own business. I'd rather learn from somebody with a failed marriage what not to do in my marriage. In other words, going down the list of things that they could learn from others that have failed and then apply to their own life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's exactly correct. And there's another benefit, I think. When we have fallen short or failed and then we come and succeed, normally we are more humble about it because we realize how close failure and success are sometimes. And when we see people who are not humble sometimes, it's because they haven't failed enough.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. I'm laughing with you because you know my story and some of my background, Richard. And, yeah, when you are knocking on your business death's door, let's just say it that way, you have a new appreciation for when things are doing well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And I love a quote Walt Disney came up with. And most people know of the success of Disneyland and the movies and things of that nature, but they don't know how hard his struggle was to succeed. And he said, all the adversity I've had in my life, all my troubles and obstacles have strengthened me. You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you. And I think that is so important for when our children or grandchildren stumble and fail, for us to lift them up and let them know it's okay and use that as a learning experience and don't be ashamed or apologize for it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. It is. Anyways, we could go on and on and on in this particular bullet point alone, Richard, because of the fear of failure. Well, if I do that and I fail, then what are people going to think of me? And I can't do that because it's just too big of a risk. And I mean, I can go down the list, Richard, of all the different things that I have personally heard and or thought of in my own mind, by the way, because we all do this. But at some point in time, you've got to be resilient enough to just say, OK, you know what? All of that, you know what? It doesn't really matter at the end of the day. I'm still going to move forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, exactly. And another way I like to look at it is the only way that we are going to attain our highest achievements is fail at the level above that highest achievement. So if our last result is success... that means we didn't reach for the next rung on the ladder.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. That's right. What about the resourcefulness that there is there in identifying and adopting, I should say, or could be adapting even new ideas? In other words, being resourceful enough to say, okay, I'm going to be resilient. I get it. I may fail. Okay, that's fine. But you know what? I may learn some things along the way that I may be resourceful enough now to apply. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yes, and we have the wisdom of the ages at our fingertip. And one of the things that's such a threat to young people today is this nonsense notion that human nature evolves. And if human nature evolves, we're different people than our ancestors were, which means the things they learned are not beneficial for us. And as you and I have talked about, we believe human nature has evolved. not changed over the millennia. And that makes all lessons of all people before us beneficial for us. And as I've said, smart people learn from their experience, but brilliant people learn from the experience of others.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and then you just said a moment ago, I think is really important. And I will say this, I do think there are some young people out there that really do understand the wisdom of the ages and even the wisdom of those that are older than them. And they're willing to, in a way, if you would, Richard, suck up to those people and really understand that, wait a minute, if I can get close to this person, rub elbows with them and have them rub off on me, the amount of things that I can learn from them will be greater than I would ever get out of any kind of a classroom, textbook, YouTube, you name it. In other words, I could learn a lot more from them than I'll ever learn anywhere else. I do think there are those out there that know that. Unfortunately, there's not enough of them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's correct, and I would encourage young people, get close to your family and friends, meet people, deepen relationships early. I didn't understand the value of that as early as I wish I would have, but lifetime relationships. When you're older and those people are in positions of power, you will have known them since you were young and you were both coming up, and that relationship and connection will be much more powerful than one developed with anyone later. And there are so many people that want to help us succeed and look for ways to help us succeed if we show that we're out for helping others and trying to help those that come behind us.
SPEAKER 08 :
I, and this is where I was probably a little bit more mature for my age than I actually was, but I guess growing up in a family business and you start hanging around older people at a younger age. And I soon realized that, you know, there's somebody that actually was pretty successful and did well. And I want to learn from them. And I did my very best, even if it was Richard at times, just sort of, you know, being around the corner and listening into conversations that maybe nobody even knew you were listening into. But the things that you could learn from that, I will just tell you to this day, I still remember some of those conversations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yes, and what our culture encourages is for us to not take advantage of those situations, focus on one fault or failure a person had, and then discredit that person versus looking at the positive side of it and what can I learn going forward from that particular person and their experience. And I always say it's amazing that if experiences – uh the best lesson and if hindsight's 20 20 then why do the people that have neither not listen to the people that have both that's a that is a great question uh you've got something in here about wright brothers as well which i'm
SPEAKER 08 :
I always am just enamored by some of those old inventors and the things that they did, the risks that they took, not only physically but financially, because in some cases, Richard, you know as well as I, by the time they got to that invention's success, they were darn near broke, if not broke.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, absolutely, and the Wright brothers are great examples of the Americandu spirit, and they had no government funding. Many of the competitors trying to put motorized aircraft in the air first, not only the U.S., but other countries had government funding. They refused it. They were self-taught. They had a bicycle shop and had a dream to fly a powered airplane, and they studied, invested their own money, sacrificed money, and persisted until they succeeded ahead of other people. And it's a great example that we don't need the government to take care of us. We can do things, and we can learn and become better people than we are today.
SPEAKER 08 :
They were somebody also, and it's our next one, had a relentless pursuit of a dream. You just mentioned that a moment ago. They were going to do it without the help of government because they wanted to pursue it on their own, not because of Uncle Sam.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's exactly correct. And we have to honor and respect that. And again, that's such a great example for anyone who wants to chase that dream. We don't have to wait for somebody at the government to give us a grant or tell us it's okay. Like our ancestors, we can take off and pursue it. And if we fail, we can continue to pursue it afterwards or another dream that's taken its place.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very, very well said. Okay, close us out. What's the last thing we should be doing?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, one example I think of today that everyone can relate to, although most people don't know, they see Mark Cuban and they see him as a super successful businessman. But they don't realize that he failed in computer sales. He failed as a short order cook. He failed in the newspaper business as a bartender and selling garbage bags. He failed a handful of times or more before he became successful overnight. And so that's the example that we ought to emulate, not the person who fails once and quits.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what? And again, there's others like him. That's a great example, though, because people can still relate to him because he's around even to this day.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely, and I don't like all the things he does, but I have a great deal of respect for him because of what he's done.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. Yeah, I don't agree with all of his politics and some of the things that he does along those lines, but I do respect what he's accomplished.
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely. As long as we have breath, we have limitless possibilities, and that's the thing we need to make sure we take advantage of every day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Amen. Amen. All right. As we close things out, Richard, richardbattle.com. And yes, as I said earlier, there's a graduation time of the year, and folks are gearing up for that, wondering, what do I even get that graduate in my life? And your website could be a great resource for them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we appreciate that. And Americans Who Made America, 18th Century Birth of the Republics, our latest book out, it is great for high school or college kids. I've even had somebody that takes one of the profiles and teaches their seven-year-old kid once a week. And so it's a great way to make up for the schools not teaching civics and history. is teach these young people the Americandu spirit and these great examples from our founding period.
SPEAKER 08 :
Awesome, Richard. As always, I appreciate it very much. I miss the weeks. We don't get a chance to talk, but always make up for it when I get back, and I appreciate you. We appreciate being here, and God bless America. God bless you, Richard. Have a great rest of your day. Up next, it's Golden Eagle Financial. Stay tuned. Al's got a great little bit that he did with an interview with Travis to explain what he can do for you.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? I'm doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I don't prepare my clients' taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it's working.
SPEAKER 04 :
And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, with so many different taxes we're faced with, it becomes an important thing to take into consideration. It's not how much income you have, but how much you get to keep. In addition to federal and state income taxes, there's property taxes, state and local sales tax, and fees. And they all play a part in shrinking our income.
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What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won't they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
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Well, it depends. Everybody's situation's a little bit different. There's no one size that fits all when it comes to tax planning. But often when I work with people, we'll create a strategy where we will convert traditional IRAs to Roth over time. And that not only reduces taxes in the future, but it will also lower the tax they'll be paying on their Social Security.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
SPEAKER 13 :
Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that is excellent. And how can people reach you if they want to learn about their own taxation in retirement?
SPEAKER 13 :
You can reach me through KLZ or contact my office at 303-744-1128. And when you call, I'll provide you with a summary of all the tax changes for 2025.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. One of you sent me an article over the evening into today, which I appreciate greatly, and a lot of you do from time to time. And I've said this numerous times. I'll continue to say it. I may not always recognize or say that somebody sent me such and such, but I will say this. I do... read, and everything that you send me, yes, I look at each one of those things. I may be able to work it into my program at a later date, or I may not. It doesn't mean that I'm offended by anything that you've sent or anything along those lines. It's just a matter of what works into particular shows and so on. But I'm always thankful for what you send me. Charlie finds articles. I've got other individuals out there that Find articles and send family members that send me things. And I'm always, always appreciative of the things that are sent to me because either, A, I may not have seen it. I may have, but I may not have seen it. And it gives me a little bit of an up, if you would, on what's going on. And I appreciate that greatly. So this was an article that was sent to me coming out of Zero Hedge. 35 House Democrats join Republicans to kill Biden's preposterous EV targets. Now, I've talked about EVs, you know, a ton in the past on this program. Probably as much. I think it's fair to say that I have talked about them as much, if not more, than probably any other publication, talk show, radio, TV, etc., mainly because of Drive Radio and what I do on three hours on Saturday. plus the fact that I own one because of the Drive Radio program, plus what I do here, and I've even done lots of interviews with different people along those lines, and I think most of you will understand and recognize, I think Charlie does for sure, that even the quote-unquote experts, when I bring them on to talk about an EV, and this is not to boast at all, please, I don't want it to be that way, but because of owning one, and I've owned one since 2020, And knowing the ins and outs of them like I do, generally speaking, I know more about them than the quote-unquote expert that has come on as an expert to talk about EVs. And that's just because I own one. I don't know if there's a quote that goes along these lines, Charlie, but when you own something and you do something with it on a regular basis, you typically start understanding far more about whatever that is than anybody else because you're in it. You're doing it. And I looked at EVs completely different than probably anybody else from either side of the aisle. I didn't look at them as God's gift to mankind and we've got to go this way to save the earth. That's not the side I came from, as you guys all know. I also didn't come from the side that a lot of conservatives come from, that they're evil and they're out to destroy us and our economy and everything else. I didn't look at it either way. I really came at it as it's a car. It's a piece of technology that, yes, is different than what we've been used to having in the past. And I'm going to approach this very neutral to determine, is there a good, a bad, an ugly? Where are they in the grand scheme of things? And that's exactly how I approach it. I didn't have any confirmation bias one way or the other when it came to EVs. I really looked at them open-mindedly from both sides. And you guys know my feelings on that. No, they shouldn't be mandated. And I'm glad that, you know, some Democrats sided with Republicans to kill some of the mandates because, no, they shouldn't be mandated. They also shouldn't be subsidized. I've talked about that numerous times in the past. Nobody should be subsidizing somebody else to buy something, especially in this case. Government should have never forced these, which is what they did through subsidies and through tax credits and so on. They never should have done that in the first place to get these things sold. If they were going to sell, they'll sell on their own, which I'm a believer that they would have had government not did what they did. Had government not done them to be a big push for, quote-unquote, the environment, I think they would sell. And probably, my prediction is, we don't know because we screwed it up, but my prediction is they would have sold better now than they would have otherwise. Because once people realize how exhilarating they are to drive, how convenient they actually are, if you're the right person that can own one and you can pull in your garage and charge overnight and so on, if you're one of those individuals, you will soon find that they are extremely convenient. Extremely convenient. And I mean that with all sincerity. There are some good sides to EVs, no matter what type of conservative would say otherwise. On the same token, they're not as glamorous and they're not the fix for everything like a lot of folks on the left would think. It's somewhere in the middle. And I've talked about that many, many times. So my point with this particular article and what somebody sent me was, yeah, we're going to see some of these mandates changing, not only under Trump, but because I think even a lot of Democrats are starting to realize that. Wait a minute. If I stick with these mandates and I continue to push this stuff, my constituents. which, by the way, can't all afford one, and no, they're not ideal for every one of my constituents. I think what a lot of folks are starting to realize, a lot of politicians are starting to realize, is this isn't boding well for me and my political future if I continue to ride this horse. I probably need to take a little different stance on this because they're not panning out to be as great as what everybody said they were because they do have limitations. And a lot of the left would come out and say, well, yeah, that's just because we don't have enough, you know, we haven't paid for and put enough charging stations in across the country to make them work. No, folks, that's not it either. Even with more charge stations, they don't charge as quickly as you can fill a car up with fuel. They're not one and the same. And until that technology changes, Charlie sent me an article the other day where there is some technology coming down the pike that might change the time it actually takes to charge an EV, but we're not there yet. Even a fast charge is 10, 15 minutes. You can fill up and be gone. You can fill up, use the bathroom, go get a Snickers, you know, do whatever else it is you want to do inside the convenience store and fill up and be gone faster than what it takes to do an EV charge, even on a fast charge basis. And cost wise, by the way, you can darn near fill. Well, you can fill the car up with fuel as cheap as you can with electricity. That's the other side of the aisle or the other side of the equation that the left never wants to tell you. That cost at those DC fast charge stations is not cheap. It's expensive. And when it's all said and done, you can drive an ICE vehicle, an internal combustion engine vehicle, as cheap or cheaper, really cheaper than you can an EV. And when I say that, I'd be really careful because just like ICE engine cars, EVs vary vastly in cost. So that's the other thing you've got to look at is when they're comparing on a mile-per-mile basis a vehicle, an EV vehicle versus an ICE vehicle, you really have to look at, are they comparing apples to apples? Is it like vehicle for like vehicle? Because sometimes it's not, because they can skew the numbers that way. They can make the EV look a lot cheaper if they're not comparing apples to apples, is my point. So, again, while I am an EV owner, I am that middle-of-the-road guy. I believe in the technology itself as far as that is concerned. And what I mean by that is, yes, there is a place for them. No, it's not saving the planet. Conveniently speaking, and the exhilaration of driving one, though, I'll just tell you straight up, there is no comparison. never having to fill up at the gas station, having instant power that you're not waiting for anything to wind up as far as an ICE engine is concerned. It's instant torque. It's there immediately. Most of them have even sport modes that make them extremely exhilarating to drive because they're extremely fast. Again, if you've never driven one, don't knock one. On the same token, are they for everyone? I've said over and over and over again on this program, no, they are not for everyone. Are they for some? I believe they would be even for more if more people were open-minded to them and if the government hadn't done what they did to force them upon individuals. That's why when I see these mandates go away, I actually look at that and think, okay, that's a win for EVs themselves because as time goes by, they'll actually get an uptick in sales from that. 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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 08 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sunny Kutcher joining us now from Young Americans Against Socialism. Hello, Sunny. How are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Doing well. Glad to be back from our break.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, always a joy to have you. I miss talking to you. And we've got always something to discuss, by the way. There's always something going on. And for those of you that, by the way, have not been to their website, Young Americans Against Socialism, Sonny did an interview here of late, a TV interview, by the way, which went very well. So those of you can go there and check some of those things out. But, Sonny, let's talk about Trump. Yesterday there was a ruling from the Supreme Court that validates his – his mandate, if you would, when it comes to transgenderism in the military and the banning thereof?
SPEAKER 09 :
This is super important, I think, because it solidifies our values in this country. You know, we don't have service members who have other disabilities, and this is for obvious reasons. I mean, we want our service members to be able to protect the homeland, protect our civilian population and our entire population. And And I think, unfortunately, you know, we do have a very, generations of people who are struggling with severe mental illness. And I would say that people who would think that they can change their gender or change their sex are struggling with gender dysphoria. This is something that's commonly known. This is scientifically studied. And unfortunately, you know, that may be a hard blow for some people to deal with. But fortunately for people For America, we can stand by the fact that there are only two sexes and that should be represented as such in the military.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can't agree with anything you said more. The reality is, and I've said this many times on this program, this should not be a shock to anybody listening. And by the way, Sonny, I want to make sure I say this off the bat. I love people, and I especially love people that have any kind of health issues that are going on. In this particular case, I, like you, believe that transgenderism, they have some serious mental things going on. I think it's mental and spiritual. I talked about this a little bit on our podcast this morning that we recorded for the National And I look at this as a mental slash spiritual issue, which, by the way, sometimes, Sonny, those can run hand in hand, as you know. But the reality is I see it as I'm in the wrong body. God did this to me. I'm now going to go around God, and I'm going to fix this on my own. So, again, I look at it as a two-sided coin. Yes, it's mental. Yes, it's spiritual, but at the end of the day, do I love these people? Absolutely, but do I think they should be in positions of leadership, and in this case, defending my country, my homeland? Absolutely not.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. I mean, I couldn't agree more, especially from a spiritual standpoint. You know, I think young people are constantly searching for purpose. We've talked about that on the show, and you know, just how God always works, we don't know the answers that we are searching for always. You know, they come to us, and I think There are people who would think that they can go and change their gender and that's going to be the solution to their problems. And unfortunately, that's just not how it works. That's not how life works. And so they will find out that they've only just irreparably harmed their body, especially young people who are coming into this, which leads me to my next point, which is that a lot of these. trans-identifying people suffer from even medical disabilities or medical issues while they're transitioning or after they've transitioned, quote unquote. And so why is it that now, you know, it's the responsibility of our military to support these procedures or, you know, the things that come along with someone who is attempting to, you know, change their body. I mean, they are changing their body. And so it's It's just another, you know, responsibility that our military would have to take over paying for hormones, paying for surgeries. That's just not something that, you know, we should be spending money on in the military. We're trying to make our military more lethal, more just stronger and more of a threat to the other nations around us. And having, you know, people who don't even know what gender they are is certainly not a representative representation of, you know, our strongest, best military.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and Charlie and I, it's funny, we were talking about this a little bit yesterday after the show. It might have been one of the top of the hours where we got a little bit of time in between hours where we discuss a couple of things. And we were just talking yesterday, Sonny, about, to your point, the actual cost, by the way. So there's a cost to having all this done, which... I should have added one more thing a moment ago where I do believe this is a spiritual and a mental issue with these individuals, although we have an entire corrupt medical system that is a cash cow when it comes to the transgender end of things. That's exactly how a lot of these, quote, unquote, providers and or healers are looking at this, Sunny. It is a tremendous cash cow. They are making a boatload of money off of these transitions. To your point a moment ago, this is something that for these individuals, they will continue to spend money on the remainder of their life, whether they stay transitioned or detransition. They will have medical bills that the likes of you and I will never see. And the reality is it's a cash cow. So that's a third part of it that I should have mentioned a moment ago. All the more reason why I'm against this and all the more reason to your point, why I'm against this in the military, because my tax dollars should not be paying for this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Uh, Like, you know, there's just no way that you can logically justify that. I mean, and the thing is, we were doing it for years. And this is what drives me insane because we have, you know, four years to kind of turn around the psychosis and insanity that was taking place. And I really hope people understand that this is so much deeper than just an election. This is so much deeper than, you know, one side versus another. We talk about that a lot. because this is about our values. And you can just see the world around us, internationally, in this country, our values have crumbled. We have, honestly, sometimes I just think we've lost, I mean, we have lost our way. I think we have truly lost our way. There are people who are trying to get us back on track. We're trying to course correct. But it is really quite saddening and frustrating that, you know, half the country is super excited about this executive order restoring common sense to our military procedure and, you know, representation. And then on the other hand, you have people who are genuinely up in arms and think that, you know, President Trump is is a complete, you know, is being a dictator, a tyrant. for discriminating against this group of people uh because because they're delusional and what we're supposed to complete we're supposed to bankroll our our service members so that you can get gender transition surgeries like what it doesn't even it's just it's it's a from a dystopian novel you know so we have to be loud in our values we cannot cower we cannot when you cower and you get emotional, when you take logic out of the argument, that is when the left wins. That is their only recourse because they have no values. Their entire agenda is to destroy our values and create a one system where everybody just serves the collective because, well, that's better for society. But that's not the society that we live in in America. We live in an America that has Law and order, that's what we were built on. Our values are from God. They are traditional, uniquely designed for men and women, and we cannot cower on that. We have to be strong, and that's the only way we're going to save our country, truly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and all well said, by the way. Now, what I want you to do is tie this back into, because I do think there's a correlation. This is where I really wanted to get with you on this because of Young Americans Against Socialism. I, for one, firmly believe that I'm going to add one more layer to this. Yes, it's a spiritual issue. Yes, it's a mental issue. Yes, it's a cash cow. But probably first and foremost, Sonny, this is part of, in my opinion, the doctrine of the Marxist socialist movement, because if they can get into the minds and hearts of individuals like this and even then apply that into our military, it's just one more way to tear down the country. Am I right or wrong?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely, absolutely. That is their entire agenda, to destroy our institutions from within, to destroy our values from within, to strip us of our humanity, of our identity, of what being a woman really is all about, what being a strong man is all about, just completely blurring the lines of what our values even stand for. And of course, from a practical standpoint, just completely deplete the strength of our military, which is actually really sad because these people are being used as pawns to destroy a country. If they even knew that, they would probably be really upset about the fact that they're being manipulated and used as tools for the Marxist agenda, exactly what you're saying. I mean, Marxism is all about, you know, blurring those lines. And as I mentioned, the collective over the individual, stripping us of our individual rights and our individual humanity to serve the collective because it's the class of society, the classes that make up society that are the instigators for society's ill. The problems that we have are because we have a class. That's irrelevant, especially in America because the whole point of America is that you can become the person that you want to be. You can be... You can have the life that you want to live. You can live the dreams that you have. And so that is exactly what they want to destroy, because they don't want good things for our country, for this world. They just hate God. They actually are just hateful, evil, depraved people. And, you know, you can't sit around and be... promoting the mutilation of children and on the flip side, trying to say that, you know, you are supporting supporting them in any way that is child abuse. This is abuse. This is manipulation, as I mentioned. And we just have to be strong. People wake up to this every single day. Marxism and the history behind socialism and all these isms. is quite theoretical, because that's exactly all it is, is a theory. None of this actually works, because all it is intended to do is to destroy humanity.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Again, everything you're saying, spot on. It does tie together, and I know a lot of folks out there listening would say, wait a minute, you guys have just tied in Basically, the transgender movement and what's happening in the military along these lines and what the Supreme Court did yesterday in allowing Trump to ban these individuals from military duty, which, by the way, I'm all for. Some are going to say, man, that's a long stretch to talk about that in regards to Marxism and socialism. Actually, Sonny, it's not, because if you read through – and you know what I'm going to say here – If you read through the Marxist Manifesto and what they do to actually get a country to turn to them, mental illness becomes a very large portion of what they do, because they feel like, again, if they can take over for God and become Him in society, they then are allowed to move in and take over, because in their mind, government should be God, not the other way around.
SPEAKER 09 :
Precisely, and Despite the fact that it is so coupled with, you know, how they want to govern the society through the state and, you know, implement this state dependence, whether it be socialism or communism to an extreme level. You have to, like I said, strip away. A person of their critical thinking of their ability to feel independence, to make their own thoughts and their own beliefs based on what how they perceive the world around them, around them. When you are able to poison someone's mind to the point where they'll actually trust this third party doctor telling them to chop their body parts off and take hormones for the rest of their life. then you have all power to control them. It really doesn't even matter what the next topic is. You can control them because they're already dependent. So they actually need that dependence in order to survive, in order to maintain this perception that they have of the world, because that's what's given them their purpose. Like we mentioned, it's a full circle. It's all for full circle. And it really is just designed to have that control over people's minds, their spirits, and their bodies, of course, restricting free movement and freedom of speech and all the freedoms that we cherish so much in our country. We just have to remember that. We have to remember that this is such a spiritual war, and that is what they're intending to do is to strip us of our humanity and our independence and critical thinking skills to the point where, like, if they are able to do that, they can control anybody in anything.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're exactly right. All right, Young Americans Against Socialism, how can folks find you?
SPEAKER 09 :
can find us on social media. If you type in Yas underscore America, that is our handle, Twitter Yas America, TikTok as well. We are just getting the message out there and we'd love to hear from you. You can go to our website, Yas.org. I did do my first news hit on OAN with Chanel Ryan. It was really fun. I'm excited for the more to come. And you can find that on our website, also YouTube, if you just, you know, type in Yas, also my name or socialism destroys freedom. So let us know what you think, and definitely support us if you can. We just want young people to wake up to the reality of what these isms, what these ideologies are all about, because, again, it's all about control. And if you don't give them that power, we can retain our freedom, and that's the only way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Young Americans Against Socialism. Folks, go check it out. Donate today if you can. Sonny, again, thank you so much. Missed talking to you, but we'll be back again next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks, John. Talk to you soon.
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All right, we talked about a particular case that the Supreme Court ruled on in favor of Trump and his stance when it comes to transgenders and military, a particular case that he has recently lost, although the Supreme Court may weigh in on this one in the not-too-distant future. A federal judge, Ninth Circuit judge, by the way, for those of you that don't know what that is, that's the western end of the United States, one of the most, if not the most, liberal circuit there is. And all sorts of goofy rulings come out of that court system on a routine basis. And anytime it says Ninth Circuit, I have to look at that and say, oh, yeah, a bunch of wacko lunatic lefties that run that particular court. So, you know, what does it really mean at the end? But a federal judge of the Ninth Circuit. has ordered the Trump administration to immediately resettle 12,000 illegal immigrants. This says migrants, even on the Fox News report, which it's not necessarily migrants. These are illegals, in fact. Otherwise, they wouldn't have been deported. And they have ordered that to happen in the next seven days. Now, again, along those same lines, there are some cases going through, or there is a case going through the Supreme Court right now asking how much power some of these federal judges actually have in these particular situations. So it'll be interesting to see how some of this comes out. Now, this happens to be a judge, Judge Jamal Whitehead. He was appointed in 2023 by Joe Biden, nonetheless. Joe probably doesn't even know he appointed him, Charlie. That was probably an auto pen thing when it's all said and done. So Joe probably has no recollection of who this guy even is or that he appointed him. But reality is he did. And this guy really is. I'll just say it straight up. If you look at some of the quotes and some of the things that he has said in regards to the Trump administration, what a pompous jerk. I don't care if he's a judge. He's a pompous jerk. And the way he refers to Donald Trump and the White House, and again, I'm not surprised it's coming out of the Ninth Circuit, but what a pompous jerk. And I'll be careful I say this because I may end up in front of one of these guys someday, but... I'll just say it straight up. I think most judges struggle with the God complex. I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it straight up. If you're a judge and you don't have one, congratulations. But I think a lot of judges struggle with the God complex. They sit on that bench. They have this, you know, quote, unquote, authority, this overreaching, in some cases, authority to decide what to do, not do. And in a lot of cases, it's not even based on law. Definitely not based on the Constitution in a lot of cases. They just decide what they're going to do on a whim, and they make that decision. And it really is a God complex. Doctors can get that. Attorneys can get that. Talk show hosts, by the way, can get that. And I know some of them. And I don't ever want to be that. If I ever get to that point, somebody please just whack me upside the head. Charlie can do it. Anybody can do it. Because I don't ever want to be that kind of a person. I don't ever want to be that pompous person. That I'm that person. And a lot of these judges get to that point, and I believe this is one of those judges. Just some of the things that he has said and some of the things that he's even saying back to Trump and the administration. Again, keep in mind, he is a total loony lefty. Otherwise, he wouldn't be on this bench in the first place. But realistically, he's trying to tell Trump and his administration these 12,000 in this particular case. And I don't know where these 12,000 individuals are coming from. I don't know why it's just the 12. I didn't get into the article and read all of that. Frankly, don't care. These are these are most likely, quote unquote, refugees. And this particular judge is wanting them to have all of their full rights back, including medical and security authorizations and and and. In other words, he's just giving them a blank check that you guys as taxpayers are going to write the check for and cover. And we've all seen that in a lot of cases, these quote unquote refugees are the farthest thing from. They're not a refugee. They're not fleeing anything that they need to be fleeing in the first place. They just want to have a better life in America. And I can't blame them for that. I. would want that as well i'm never going to fault somebody for that but you got to do it legally you got to come through the proper channels and and not jump to the head of the line just because you think you're being chased by some you know regime and you're now a refugee because chances are no you're no different than anybody else coming from any other country you just want a better life for yourself but in this case this is what this judge has ruled All right, that's it for hour number two. Hour number three is next. Don't go anywhere on this Wednesday. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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All right, welcome back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Somebody just sent me through the text line, and I was reading through this, and I have not had time to research this, but this is coming from an ex-post from Recovering Woke, talking about Redfin projects Denver will have the most homes on the market per capita in the U.S., coupled with having the highest apartment vacancy rate since 08, and property value is falling. I don't know where these people are getting their information from, because... That's not the case. There's been some adjustments in every market across the country, but I don't think that's a blanket. You can't say that as a blanket statement. We're on the path to becoming the next Detroit city bankruptcy and all. Yeah, no, we're not. I mean, again, this goes back to some of the things I've talked about yesterday and even Monday, but Andy and I talked a little bit about that yesterday. This is nothing more than clickbait. Nothing more than clickbait. And some would say, what do you mean, John? This is just to get people to read, to get all excited, to get all worked up over it, get this thing retweeted, which it's been hearted 851 times and retweeted 176 times. There's 93 comments on it. Now, I have not gone and looked at the Redfin data to determine if, in fact, that's the case. Now, keep in mind, there's all sorts of naysayers out there in the real estate end of things, just like there's naysayers in the car end of things. And I talk about both sides of it pretty frequently. And I'll just tell you straight up here in the front range market, there still isn't enough homes to go around. Yes, there has been some some. And some homes that have been on the market a little bit, they've been stagnant. I guess you could say some have had to have some price adjustments made, although I will tell you that there's more activity right now and has been in the last couple of weeks than has been happening probably in the last six months. And I can explain why that is maybe on an individual basis. But bottom line, no, we are not even close to becoming the next Detroit. Right. So, again, I don't know who recovering woke is. Don't really care. Again, these are people that, in my opinion, and this is a conservative individual, sounds like a recovering woke handle would tell you that they are conservative, although they are, sorry, they're just dead wrong. I don't know how else to say it. They're dead wrong. And again, I don't know if Redfin really said this. What this particular post is doing is referring a YouTube video that is titled Redfin, the housing market is toast. That doesn't mean it's a report coming from Redfin. Again, I have to go back in and watch all of this. This is a particular individual that is... is talking, I'm watching the video kind of as we speak in the background. I can't play because I don't know what's exactly said, but this is an individual that probably is a quote-unquote expert. Now, okay, I've got to stop for a moment. There are a ton of quote-unquote experts that are out there. They have, you know, they're quote-unquote influencers. They've got a YouTube channel. They're on TikTok. They're this, they're that. Are they an expert, though, at any of this? I don't know. What are their credentials? I don't know. And by the way, just because they have credentials doesn't make them an expert. And I'll give you an example. We do health and wellness on Wednesdays. We did that at 3 o'clock today. And my second guest today, nice gentleman, by the way, doctor, he was criticizing red meat. Now, I'm not going to argue with guests that we have on and people that write books and so on, but I'll just be straight up honest with you. There's nothing wrong with eating red meat. I've done many interviews with many different people on that. There is no conclusive, solid evidence that will tell you that if you eat too much red meat, you're going to die. or end up with heart disease or anything else along those lines. In fact, most dieticians will tell you, most folks I even interview along those lines will tell you that, you know what? No, you probably shouldn't eat red meat every day, no more than you should eat fish every day, no more than you should eat chicken every day, no more than you should get the drift. It's called balance. No, you shouldn't have a steak every night of the week, although a lot of people do. More power to you. I love red meat. I love steak. I could eat it every night. I don't because, again, I'm one of those that believes there should be some balance. And is it good to eat red meat every night? I don't think it's good to eat anything the same thing every night. So no different than I would say that vegetarians would disagree with me. I don't think it's healthy to have a big salad every night. Again, it comes back down to balance. So my point is, just because somebody claims to be an expert... are they well you have to follow what they say and how accurate is what they say in other words their predictions and so on how accurate is it and and if it's not if they don't have a very good track record how much of an expert are they i mean i i've talked here on this program for gosh I think since we had the last big housing debacle, you know, all the way back in 08, and I wasn't on air daily at that time. I was on air with Drive Radio. But the reality is, you know, there has been all sorts of quote unquote bubbles that were supposed to have burst by now. whether that was during COVID, after COVID, et cetera. And the reality is, in most cases, these guys are dead wrong. I can remember predictions of, you know, the used car market's going to crash. That was through COVID. I can't tell you how many of those guys said that. Did any of that turn out to be true? Nope. Opposite. Opposite. Used car market got better, not worse. So just because somebody claims to be an expert doesn't mean they are. They might be an expert at getting clicks and getting you to watch their videos and pumping things up enough to get things going in that direction. And they may be an expert in that, but that doesn't mean they're an expert in the content that they're talking about. And I cannot say that enough. And that's my problem with and why I personally, I don't listen to any other talk shows. I don't watch anybody else on TV. I don't listen to any podcasts. I'll get people all the time telling me, you know, watch this guy, watch that guy. Now, I'll watch some short clips and different things from different people where I can learn some things, and I'm not saying that. But I don't listen to podcasts. Frankly, I find a lot of them to be absolutely boring. I don't know why, probably because I sit in this chair enough where I understand what goes into it. And a lot of the podcasts are just absolute monotone, not a lot of information, not done quickly enough. And I guess maybe because I'm time constrained here, I understand that you've got to get information out as quickly as you possibly can. And no, we don't have three hours of a podcast to do one subject. which some podcasts will do. Am I right, Charlie? Some will go that long on one particular subject. They can get really in-depth, really off in the weeds. I can't do that. I don't have the air time to do that here. Now, sometimes we can really delve into something. If I feel like it's something that really needs to be put out there, yeah, we can delve into the weeds on a few things, and we do at times. But do we do that on a daily basis? No, that's on more of a seldom basis where we get into it that way. Now, I've always said... and I think Charlie would agree with me here, as a talk show host, I have to have an inch of knowledge a mile wide. In other words, I need to know a little bit about a lot of things to sit here behind this microphone and talk about it. Does it mean I'm an expert in a lot of these areas? No. On the same token, if I had a mile's worth of knowledge that was only, in other words, it was a mile deep and an inch wide, I wouldn't have a lot to talk about as a talk show host. And by the way, there's some really, really good, solid talk show hosts out there that do know certain subjects a mile deep, but that's about all they can talk about. You get them off of that, and they're boring. A lot of podcasters, by the way, are that way as well. And they may be very deep in a particular subject, but they're not very wide in it, and I find them boring. Maybe that's just me, my ADHD, whatever. I don't know, but I find that to be extremely boring. I can't listen to that, so I don't. So, again, what I'm getting at is, and I talked about this in the podcast that you'll hear tonight at 5 o'clock, or at 6 o'clock, rather. It was just me and Neil Boron today. And we talked about AI and cognitive dissidence, like we talked about with Joe from Jersey yesterday a little bit, and talking about, you know, you might want to believe something that's AI-generated just because it's something you would hope to be true. But we have to be extremely careful in all of those things, the reposting of, the liking of, and so on. And I find that in a lot of cases, some of this sort of stuff isn't far off of that. In fact, this particular person that's talking about a market crash here in Denver with real estate. And by the way, will there be one? I don't foggiest idea. I can't predict a future. Neither can they. I will tell you that the indicators don't show that. The housing market here doesn't show that. If you talk to a lot of realtors, they would agree with me. It doesn't show that. In fact, it still shows that we have a lack of supply and there's a lot of buyers out there that are still looking. Now, have interest rates slowed a lot of that down? Yes, it has. I've explained that many times on this program. And until they come back around and we get them down to a mid-fives or so, I don't think it's going to really, really take off. We're only a point away from that, by the way. You can, in a lot of situations, get a mid-six loan right now, spending money on credit and all sorts of other things. But bottom line, my advice to a lot of you is be careful who you watch, what you watch, what you believe in, because if it's just something where somebody's trying to gain clicks, a lot like Alex Jones, which you guys all know I rarely, if ever, have played anything from Alex Jones from the day I've been on daily. And Alex was big back when I started doing this program on a daily basis, which was like 2012, 2013, something like that. And he was big then. He since is not as big as he once was because of obvious things that have happened to him. But I've never taken much of what Alex has said and repeated it on my program for obvious reasons. Has that turned out to be a good thing for me? I think so, because I think in a lot of cases, Alex is a wackadoodle. He says a lot of things that are outlandish just so he can get more views and clicks and so on. I'm not that. I explained that on this program on Monday. I'm not that. Don't look for that here. I'm not going to ever be that person. Don't look for me to be big on social media. It's not my jam, not what I want to do. I don't like being, A, I don't like being on video. B, I'm just not a self-serving individual along those lines. I just can't do that. It's not in my DNA like a lot of other people can do. 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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, story that was in Colorado Sun, which I've talked a little bit about this in the past. I did it probably two months ago, maybe three now. Time flies, so I kind of lose track of when I talk about certain things and it might have even been longer than that. But there's an article in the Colorado Sun. which is a very left-leaning publication website here in the Colorado area. But, you know, I read some of the things they say because I read what the left says. In this particular case, it's just factual information that I'm going to use and talk about. High number of new business filings in Colorado in the first quarter of this year helped put the state back on a normal growth rate post-pandemic. Again, folks, kind of going back to what I was talking about a moment ago with a complete real estate market crash in Colorado. No, I don't see it. This is kind of even proving that. But more than 48,000 businesses started up during the first quarter, up 19% from the December quarter. Now, that's not uncommon. A lot of people will wait and start a business at the beginning of the year instead of the end of the year. So, that's not really uncommon to see that happen. Typically, you're going to see first quarter be above fourth quarter. It's just the way things work when it comes to starting businesses. This was the highest quarterly number since the second quarter of 2023 when the state offered a filing fee discount to rejuvenate small businesses post-COVID. But the game was probably more about seasonality than anything else, like I said a moment ago. And that comes from Brian Lewandowski, executive director at the University of Colorado's Business Research Division. He's from the Leeds School of Business as well. It's a seasonal pattern, he says. In fact, when I look back over time from 2005 onward, it's even a little bit lower than the average increase of about 23 or 24 percent. Again, this is usual. This is what he's saying. It's what I said a moment ago. So there's a senior, Richard Wabakind, a senior economist at Leeds who works with Landowski, said that the uptick is encouraging, especially in light of the current uncertain economic environment. On the other hand, though, the number of companies that filed to dissolve also increased to 16,000. just barely up about 0.7% from a year ago, but the number of companies in good standing continue to grow. That was up 1.1%. So whether folks are starting new businesses because of a lost job or uncertainty they feel about the economy or other economic indicators, seem to have Colorado holding steady with no large increases or declines. Now, you're always going to see some that go out of business. especially new businesses that go out of business. And I've explained that again on this program in the past, and my opinion is different than others. Some will tell you that, well, businesses go out of business because they didn't have a good business plan or they didn't have the correct funding or they didn't do this right or they didn't do that right. You can kind of go down the list of things that people will blame the failed business on. I will tell you that my firm belief is As to why most businesses fail and not all, because there are other extenuating factors that can kind of come into play that isn't the fault of said owner or something along those lines. But I will tell you straight up that I believe the majority of businesses fail because they never understood from the front side how much effort would be required to make that business operate and be successful. And when it comes down to it, they are not willing to invest that time to make it happen. They think owning a business is going to be a cakewalk. They get into business thinking, oh, I know how to do this better than my boss does or the owner of my company does. I'm just going to go out and do it on my own. Well, they soon realize that it's a lot harder than it looks, number one. And number two, it takes a lot more time to make it work than they ever thought it was going to take. And in turn, they're not willing to do it. They're not willing to put the effort in, in other words, to make it happen. So I feel like a lot of businesses fail early on for that reason and that reason alone. It could be money, yes. It could be the fact that they didn't have a good business plan. Yeah, I get that. Could be they didn't market well enough and didn't have that in the right plan. Okay, yeah, I get that as well. But frankly, all of what I just said can be overcome with hard work. Even the lack of funding can be overcome with hard work. Out-hustle the next guy. Out-sell the next guy. Out-produce the next guy. Business-wise, I mean. And you'll be successful. The majority of businesses that fail, in my opinion, fail because they're not willing to put the effort in to make it work. And somebody didn't tell them on the front side, this is how much effort it's going to take. Yes, you'll be working 70, 80 hours a week to make this thing work. And I do believe there's a lot of people out there that if they heard that, they've got their 40-hour-a-week job now, and they think, oh, geez, okay, well, I'll just go out on my own. But then somebody comes along and says, you know, you're going to be working a minimum, minimum of 60 to 70 hours a week, and in some cases more, to actually make this thing work. I think some would reconsider whether they want to do it or not. And nobody comes along and tells them that, by the way. In fact, sometimes I think it's quite the opposite. Some will come along and say, oh, yeah, you would be good at that. You've got the skill set. You can do this. You can do that. You've got a history of doing such and such. You'll be just fine. And maybe they do have the right skill set. Maybe they're extremely smart. Maybe they've got a really, really high IQ. But maybe they don't have the effort skills. I don't even know if there's a word for that, Charlie, if there's an acronym for effort IQ. There's the intelligence IQ. There's the EQ, Charlie. What did it stand for? Emotional. There you go, the EQ, the emotional side. There needs to be one called the EQ, the effort Q. No one's ever defined that. No one's ever talked about that, by the way. It's not really even in the business world, but believe me, it's a reality. And if you don't have the effort cue, you're not going to make it. Your business will fail. Very rarely do you have a good enough idea to come along and work less than what your current job is and be successful at the end of the day. Most of you that are business owners that have done this for any length of time, I have to believe you're agreeing with me right now. You are nodding your head in agreement with me right now because you know exactly what I'm talking about. And so many people get into business thinking, oh, this will be easy. I know more about it than my boss does. In fact, the only reason the business does well is because I'm there. So I'll just go do this on my own. Well, yeah, more power to you. The problem is you don't know everything that happens behind the scenes to make things work and or the amount of work that your boss does that you don't see. You're not understanding that. You don't see that. So you don't know it exists. And then when you get into it, you realize that, oh, geez, they must be putting in 78 hours, 80 hours a week. And I don't want to do that. Now, I will say this. There's a lot of business owners that once they get things dialed in and set up and rolling, they're not working 80 hours anymore. But they paid their dues at one point. They did at one point. They may not now because they've got things built up and they've got people working for them and they've put the right systems in place and they've got things to the point where it will run itself, which is every business owner's dream, by the way, is to get there. It's what I try to get my clients to do. It's my goal to have them do that. When I coach, I try to get my people to that level because it's doable. It's attainable. And that's the way businesses should operate. And when you get your business to that point, it's worth the most money, by the way, because it's autonomous. Anybody can buy it. Anybody can make it work at that point. But going back to this article, again, talking about even the real estate thing that I led into with this, to where somebody out there on some YouTube channel is talking about how Denver is going to crash housing market-wise. Now, internally, the city of Denver, yeah, it has some real issues. Mike Johnson's just a klutz of a mayor. I don't know any other way to put it. He's a moron. He has no idea what he's doing. So the city of Denver could have some real problems, absolutely. The surrounding areas, though, and the state of Colorado in general, when it comes to health of the state and real estate and so on, yeah, I don't see that happening at all. I just don't see that happening at all. And part of what I'm reading here and what I'm talking about when it comes to new starts and businesses and so on, I think solidify what I'm saying. You wouldn't have these new starts and things going on. Now, I also will tell you, and you guys all know this that are in business, sometimes business formations can be just somebody doing some reorganizing of their even current business. Doesn't necessarily mean that it's even a whole new business starting. Could be a sub-business of something they've already got going. Now, in turn, that's growth. That's good. That's still a plus. It's not a minus. But is it really a brand new business that was formed? Maybe, maybe not. And that's where you'd have to dive, going back to the whole data thing I talk about all the time. You'd have to have more data and find out exactly what's going on because if somebody just formed another entity for whatever reason, sometimes it's insurance purposes, by the way, that another entity can be formed. If that's the only reason it was formed, it's not a new entity. It's an extension of a current entity. Again, I want to see more of the actual numbers behind this to see exactly what's going on. 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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I always forget to mention, most of you have this pretty well dialed in, but the text line 307-282-22. You can always text us a question, 307-282-22. Scott Garlis, welcome, sir. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, John, I'm well. How are you?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm doing very well. Glad to be back. Glad to talk to you. I miss talking to you.
SPEAKER 04 :
I miss talking to you as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, so give us an update on the Fed meeting today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, sure. So, basically... To sum it up, it was the single most boring Federal Reserve meeting I've ever listened to or watched. And I know you find that hard to believe because most of them are pretty boring. But, I mean, basically what Powell said was, you know, we can't go off of sour and consumer sentiment, meaning emotional gauges. We have to see hard data that tells us we have to do something. And contrary to all the stories about You know, all these cargo data is imploding and all these other things. He's like, we're not seeing prices take off, but we're not seeing the job market really slow down, is what he said. And so he said, until we see that, it's hard for us to really do anything else in the moment. We have to see it play out one way or the other.
SPEAKER 14 :
In other words, they can't preemptively do something when the numbers don't show it, is what he's saying, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, they could, but what he's saying is right now we were right. Because he said, you know, we see the risks that inflation could go higher. It might not. And we see risks that the economy could slow down. It might not. Now, while you were out, we got a GDP number that showed negative 0.3% contraction. But when you go in and you pick those numbers apart, and Powell actually brought this up today, because of what imports did, that was a 4.8 percentage point drag on the overall number. So you could make an argument that we should have seen significant growth if it wasn't for people scrambling to buy things ahead of, you know, the tariffs, pending tariffs. Yes. So he also pointed to that saying, well, you know, because of that, it's hard for us to do anything because When we look at it that way and we take the tariff effect out, we still see decent economic growth. And so, you know, I think that's that's fair because contrary to I mean, the media hype that and they forgot all about the imports being a big drag. But the economy, it's still all right, despite all the negative news we're hearing.
SPEAKER 14 :
So despite what even a lot of folks on the other side of the aisle would say, that the sky is falling, and by the way, I do think the economy could be better than it is right now, and I do believe that it will get that way, although I don't know how much better it will get without some interest rate lowering. We'll talk about that when it comes to housing here. in a minute, Scott, because I do think there needs to be some rate cuts to get housing really back up and running, which I do think at this point in time is somewhat of a drag, and we'd really see some really strong numbers right now if that were the case, although then you'd have to say, okay, well, that means the feds have to raise rates, although you could have a strong economy and not necessarily have inflation, and maybe that's what we should do next is we've had that under Trump. We've had a strong economy. We've had really good growth without inflation. Can we do that again?
SPEAKER 04 :
I totally think we can do that again. You know, and the other part of the equation that people are quickly forgetting about is just, you know, you see it, and I'm sure with you coaching businesses and helping people all the time, you know, the advancements that are being made in AI are definitely starting to show up on an efficiency standpoint on the business side. And, you know, that starts bringing down costs for businesses. You know, because people forget this quickly, too, but every time people get afraid of things slowing down, businesses employ more technology, they start investing in that to save themselves costs elsewhere. And it doesn't put tons of people out of work. I mean, we've talked about this in the past. When the internet came about, people were like, oh my God, there's going to be 10% unemployment. There's not. New industries will form that help the economy become more efficient and work better. But that's going to start showing up. And to answer your question, I think that is going to help drive more productivity, and less inflation.
SPEAKER 14 :
Agree, agree. And I think that's where, you know, give it a little time, and I try to get people to kind of sit back for a minute and say, okay, just, you know, cool your jets, watch what's going on, even people that get upset over. tariffs and things like that, it's like, okay, time out, you know, kick back just for a minute, let things kind of run their course, the reality is, and I think even time is telling that, that you and I have been correct on this, you know, we are the world's biggest customer, nobody buys near the amount of product that we do. I saw somebody today misquote something that said Germany had a GDP of $8 trillion. No, GDP is only about $4 trillion in Germany. They are a far cry, and they're right after China. It's us, China, Germany. They are a far cry from where we are at roughly $28 trillion a year, Scott. I hate to say this, but they don't even put a dimple in what we do. So the reality is, and Andy, my cohort, and I talked about this yesterday a little bit, the reality is, Scott, that that China has really one basic customer, and that is the U.S. Yes, they can try to peddle their goods to other countries around the world, but the reality is there's a lot of other countries that, frankly, don't have either the wherewithal, the income, the desire. The reality is they are just not going to be in a position where they can buy the things from China that we as a country buy, meaning that without us, China doesn't exist. I'm sorry to say, but they don't.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean... I totally agree with that. The big thing is China took all this manufacturing business from countries in the West and it kind of weaponized it against them, and that's part of the problem. And then the flip side of that, too, geez, like what we're seeing, stuff I'm starting to read now, is that Chinese companies are dropping their prices so they can totally work around the tariffs.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And some of these manufacturers, at the same time, they're telling companies in the United States, don't worry about it. We'll pick up all the tariff costs for you. So China is trying to do everything they can to work around it because they don't want to lose that business.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're proving the point of what I said a moment ago, that at the end of the day, China needs us far more than we need them. I keep reminding my listeners of that over and over and over again. Maybe it's now finally starting – sink in Scott but the reality is they have to have us more than we have to have them because the reality is we can go to other countries now maybe there's a few things that we have to absolutely get from China but I believe that number is far less than what even people on Wall Street would say it is Scott and I think you bring up some great points that's one of the things that I keep trying to highlight which even on the tariffs alone the reality is, this is something the news media doesn't tell you, the news media wants to paint a picture where tariffs on a $100 item are on that $100. No, the tariff is on the $10 that most likely that company is paying from China to export that good. They're not paying it on the $100, and the news media will not tell you what I just said.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, so I have this conversation with investment buddies all the time, like guys that are running funds, and their biggest frustration is exactly that right now. They're like, you know, it's hard to get the truth, and what we talk about is separating the signal from the noise, because there are so many people that, like CNN today, I'm just going to use this as an example, they are talking about plummeting cargoes coming into the West coast of America and shelves and stores are going to be without goods. And it's going to be like COVID all over again. You know, I looked, I pulled up all the inbound cargo data for the port of LA and In two weeks' time, it's supposed to be up like 46% or 60% year over year.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's funny you say that because last week coming back from Hawaii, we had to take a stop in Oakland, and Oakland's not a huge port, but there's container ships and stuff that come into those ports just like L.A. and so on. And as I'm flying over, I'm thinking to myself, geez, there's sure a lot of container ships out there in the port getting ready to roll in. I thought tariffs were ending all of that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Totally, man. Yeah. I looked up Long Beach. So Long Beach and L.A. make up about 40% of all inbound traffic to the U.S. Right. And 40% of all imports, and it's the shortest route from China to get from Shanghai to the U.S. And both of them are painting a similar picture with their traffic data. You know, okay, there's a brief lull, and this is because this is how long it takes to play out from – from the original imposition of tariffs on Liberation Day. But toward the end of April, mid to late April, Trump had a meeting with the CEOs of Home Depot, Walmart, and Target. Well, within a couple of days, there were stories out of the Chinese media that Trump gave them the okay to go back and tell all these chips manufacturers to start sending their goods back. And it looks like the data's already ready to rebound. In the next couple weeks, it's going to pick way back up. I looked at the year-over-year numbers. They're flat, even with the recent dip.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's not as bad as the news media is painting it out to be, is the point.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not at all. They're really painting a different picture than what I see in the raw data.
SPEAKER 14 :
Exactly. Well, and that's where I spent the last 15 minutes, even last hour, part of that hour, talking about data, what it means, how to view it. really say what anybody wants it to say i always like like you i want to see what the raw data says i i want to extrapolate that because that'll tell me exactly what the true picture is i don't want to read data that cnn is putting out because by the way it could be completely false it's and it's a couple weeks old yeah thank you for that as well yes it could be correct data but from when
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, and it makes a big difference.
SPEAKER 14 :
And the things that you and I are talking about right now, it makes a – well, it always makes a difference, but right now it makes a huge difference. Okay, so when it comes to even some of the other countries out there that are sort of, you know, balking at the tariffs, we've still got Canada kind of chirping, and the U.K. chirps here and there, and the reality is, you know, guys, you can chirp all you want, but I go back to my initial conversation a moment ago. We buy $28 trillion. That's our GDP, so not buy, but we have a GDP that's $28 trillion. UK, sorry, you're not even $4 trillion. Canada, you're below that. So the reality is at the end of the day, you guys can trip all you want, but I hate to say this, but you're like a mosquito.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you know, the Canada stuff is interesting because of that primary that just took place. And Carney won, but he's got a minority. If he forms a government, it will be a minority government. He won't have a majority government. But, you know, after all the hard talk going into the campaign, he came here yesterday and met with Trump. And after the meeting, he said, well, you know... I'm doing I see this as my opportunity to repair the damage that was done by the prior prime minister. So that's really different than the language he was using, saying I'm going to unite the world against Trump prior to the election. Good point. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, to me, that comes back down to this whole, you know, perspective of, hey, you know, do we really want to tick off our largest customer?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, no, and that's exactly my point. It's what you said, and that's why he's saying that. And then the other one was, you know, to the U.K. point, one of the U.K. ministers who's dealing with this, these trade negotiations came out yesterday, late yesterday, and said we're really close on a deal that's going to involve some tariff quotas. And then you have... You know, India, I've read some stuff, too, out of some Indian newspapers and journals that India is really looking to supplant China as the supplier for the U.S. Interesting. Yes. And it's just, you know, they have infrastructure. It still would have to be built up. But, you know, that would be, and I think China realizes this, and this is why you've seen the tone start to change really quickly out of China. And China is more interested in having talks now than they were just a couple of weeks ago. Interesting.
SPEAKER 14 :
Here's a question. I wanted to know if there's any scuttlebutt going on because one of the things that I feel like needs to be communicated coming out of the White House as well in conjunction with some of the tariff talk is – and I get it. It's a federal thing on their end. Tariffs are and so on. I also know states have rights and so on. But you have to wonder, Scott, at some point, when does – somebody like Trump come along to some of the states, probably the red states, and say, listen, guys, we want to attract more business. We want to get these factories built. We want some things back here on the homeland. We know it's probably not going to happen in the blue states. So what can you guys do in the red states to fast-track some of the projects that I want to see come back to America? What incentives and things like that can we give these companies? And I mean incentives as in, hey, if you want to build a factory, we'll figure out a way to fast-track this, get you through all of the studies and everything. and all the other things that normally would take three to five years we're going to fast track that and let you put a hole in the ground within six to eight months uh i wouldn't be surprised if those conversations have already been had okay all right perfect because they need to scott i mean that's the kind of stuff if you're going to get stuff back here get things rolling along you got to fast track it and he has said he wants to fast track everything he wants to get it going right now because
SPEAKER 04 :
You need to have those projects going before he gets out of office because if he waits until after, then you could have somebody else come in and be like, well, not so fast. Good point. So if you think politically, yeah, you want to get them going as soon as possible. Then it's a lot harder to say no.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Stuff to invest in where people are looking at, hey, what should I do? I know gold is at an all-time high. What should people be looking at right now if they want kind of a safe haven while they wait some of this stuff out?
SPEAKER 04 :
yeah again i mean i i think u.s treasuries are a great spot to be invested in um you know spts is a uh it's a one to three year treasury etf i believe it has about a 4.2 percent yield Look, I think the Fed is going to be cutting in the back half of this year, especially if we start to see some deals in this next quarter that happen with other countries. And, you know, the tariffs don't look as bad as what was originally suggested to get people to the table. So inflation doesn't really pick up. You know, people are still forgetting that oil piece of the puzzle we've talked about and oil prices having dropped so much. Inflation continues to ease like it has been. The Fed starts cutting three times in the back half of the year, maybe even four. Yields are going to drop and bond prices are going to go up. So I think that's a really good place to sit things out. I think we've seen the lows for the year in the stock market. I would be buying the S&P 500 ETF, SPY.
SPEAKER 14 :
i think that's that's another great place where you could you could make some decent upside okay now i want to end with the whole oil thing because there were some folks out even on social media mr global who's a guy that i actually follow although he's a complete lefty he does pretty good job most of the time when it comes to oil and how it works in the infrastructure and so on although sunday he predicted a huge crash across the board on all markets when it came to oil. People would be losing their jobs. Executives would be losing their jobs. Of course, none of that happened. He was way off. And his reasoning for that was because of OPEC deciding to put 400,000 more barrels per day into production. And as I read through that, I'm thinking, okay, wait a minute. We, the United States of America, we consume a little over 20 million barrels a day. So just us alone, not the entire world, Scott, but just us at 20 million, that 400K, again, it's sort of like Canada whining about tariffs. At the end of the day, it's doing nothing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, that's right. It's really doing nothing at all.
SPEAKER 14 :
And yet he's predicting a huge crash. Now, oil is down, but it was headed down anyways. And I think one of the things you and I have talked about is we knew that it would. We knew that a Trump presidency, you're going to push production up. OPEC's going to jump on. They don't want to be left out in the cold. They're going to push some production up. Yes, it's going to drive prices down. We need them to sit about where they are right now, by the way. Much lower, it starts hurting our companies. So, we really need them to sit here in this $60 a barrel range. Eventually, you're going to see the price of gasoline come down to the low twos at that range. So, give it some time. All of that stuff will work out. And to your point, enabling the economy to take off without inflation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I'm just now starting to see some different places on Wall Street start to pick up and run with this. And they're like, wait a second, this is actually really good from an inflation standpoint. It's like, yeah, no kidding.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, thank you. You and I have been talking about this for a while. They should listen to us on Wednesdays at 5.30 Mountain Time. That's right. Scott, appreciate you. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, sure. You can go LinkedIn, Twitter, or on Substack, see Scott Garlis.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're the man, Scott. Appreciate your time always. John, thanks so much for your time.
SPEAKER 04 :
You betcha, man.
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All right, one thing that I was going to talk to Scott about that was in my notes that we just didn't get enough time to do, I've only got about a minute or so left of today's program, is Wall Street Journal article from a few days ago talking about how bad is China's economy. And the answer is the data needed to answer this is vanishing. In other words, Beijing has stopped publishing hundreds, not just a few, hundreds of statistics, making it harder to know exactly what's going on in the country. Yeah, because China will hide that stuff. They don't want anybody to realize exactly how bad things are, especially now, given the circumstances we've got with Donald Trump tariffs and so on. Yeah, they're not going to let anybody know exactly how bad things are. The only way you're going to know that is if you've got any kind of an inside track on individuals that actually live there that could push out information on how are some of the companies that are there doing? What are they doing in regards to tariffs? Are they still producing? Have they had huge layoffs, which they have? how much money is being injected into the country, into the currency, things along those lines. So for those of you, if any of you have any insight to that or know anybody that actually is in or has relatives in China, I would love to know some of those things because the reality is you're not going to hear that from the press. The press is on China's side, by the way, something I don't talk much about. But yes, our press, our mainstream media, they are in the back pocket of China. Why? Because they're lefties. They're Marxists. They're communists. What do you think China is? And it's one of those things where I don't think we on our side talk about this enough. China is communist. Total communism through and through. Their people are subjects, not citizens. They will walk all over, spit their people out in a heartbeat. They don't care. They are useful idiots at the end of the day. That's all the leaders of China look at when it comes to their people, and they literally have no care or concern for them in any way, shape, or form. I don't care what anybody says, because it's the truth. The left, by the way, will never tell you what I just said. They will glamorize China, make it seem great, make it seem wonderful, and we're the bad guys by doing these tariffs all of a sudden, and it's not China. You'll never hear what I just said out of the mainstream media because they're just a bunch of useful idiots from China, by the way. They are on their side. So we'll talk more about that tomorrow. Have a great night, guys, by the way. Up next, it's the National Crawford Roundtable with myself and Neil Boron. Enjoy your night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
In this episode of The Good News, Angie Austin and guest Jim Stovall explore the nuanced roles of luck in success and happiness. They share heartfelt discussions about seizing opportunities, the importance of preparation, and how each person has a unique story to tell. Jim shares profound insights into how privilege and fortune intertwine with personal effort to craft the lives we lead. This conversation is as thought-provoking as it is inspiring, underlining the truth that while luck may present the door, it is up to us to walk through it.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News. Always a good day when we have Jim on. Hey, Jim.
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Hey, it is great to be with you, as always.
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All right, so this week, it's Do You Feel Lucky? So I'm very interested to hear about this, because you did write in the second... It stood out to me. It said, after losing my eyesight. And then I looked back up at the title. It said, do you feel lucky? And then I looked back down at after losing my eyesight. And it intrigued me that those two things were in the same article. But then I thought, well, knowing Jim, he's figured out a way to make this good luck.
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Oh, I do feel that. I don't know anybody I'd trade places with.
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Oh, I think I'm going to cry. That's so sweet. I mean, you've really made the best of what could have been a bad situation. You've made a better life than you would have had before. Yeah.
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Yeah, I feel fortunate. And, you know, as you and I have talked about before, when I could see with my eyes, I don't know that I ever read a book. I know. I became a voracious reader thanks to digital high-speed audio. And I read a book every day. And becoming a reader made me want to be a writer. And becoming a writer gave me the opportunity now to have nine of my books turned into movies. And then that gave me the chance to understand the power of a movie compared to even a great book. And I have stood in arenas full of 18,000 people or more. And I will just throw out a movie line like, go ahead. And you will hear people say in unison, make my day or you will throw out all these other things like Clint Eastwood. Do you feel lucky in those kind of things? And, you know, then I always tell my audiences, you know, after doing four or five of these. Please remember, none of these movies have been out in the last 30 or 40 years. They stick with you indelibly. So as we've discussed, I think if Mark Twain or the Apostle Paul or William Shakespeare were alive today, in addition to writing, they'd be making movies because of the power of them. But luck is such an important part of who we are and what we do. And everyone has luck. It's a matter of what you do with it. I was part of the largest survey done a couple years ago of self-made millionaires. There were 20,000 millionaires in America that participated in this. And one of the characteristics that all these millionaires, including myself, cited as part of the reason they became a millionaire is luck. It is timing. It is those things. But it doesn't mean other people are not millionaires because they're unlucky. They may have had the luck and they just didn't get there. And then one of the readers of my weekly column for many, many years is a guy that was, at the time, the largest single winner of the lottery. Several hundred million dollars came to him all at once. And this is a guy that... was not as successful before. I mean, he worked, he drove a forklift at a chain link fence factory and loaded trucks with this forklift. That was his job. And then he wins hundreds of millions of dollars. And there were a couple of tickets that had been bigger than his at that time, but they were owned by multiple people. He owned this all by himself. Well, you know, as lucky as we all would say, wow, that is the biggest stroke of luck of your life. When you look at the body of people who have won lotteries and won tens or hundreds of millions of dollars, in the ensuing years, they suffer a higher divorce rate, believe it or not, a higher rate of bankruptcy, and a higher rate of suicide than the general population. So you have to look at, what does this luck mean? What does it do? Because without a purpose... it's really self-gratifying and ultimately destructive.
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So what good does it do and can be self-destructive? All right, so what else do you teach us?
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Well, I think the important thing is to look at your life objectively, like you would look at it if it were someone else's life or if it were a movie, and ask yourself, where is my luck? You know, let's start with the fact, you know, a lot of people listening to us right now say, well, I've never been lucky. Well, by virtue of the fact you're listening to this, you were probably born and you probably live in the United States of America here in the 21st century. Compared to the vast majority of people, 7.7 billion people that live on the planet today and people that have lived here for thousands of years, you won the lottery. You won the gene pool lottery, and you were born in the right place at the right time. You have more freedom and ability to impact your own future than virtually anyone else that's ever lived. And, you know, we have the opportunity to do that. And we it's so readily available and it was given to us. We have a tendency to take it for granted. But you really can't do that. You know, people continue to come to our country in all manner. And I'm not going to get into that. But, you know, they are flooding here because of this opportunity. They You know, everything's possible in America, and that's true. So people that think, you know, well, I've never been lucky. Well, you know, you had the opportunity to have a public education, and you think, well, the public education's not that great. Well, they have a public library, and you have access to the Internet. You know, there's nothing you can't know right now and really change your whole world. And we live in such a magnificent time and place. And I can't think of anything. that as a fundamental piece of luck is better than that.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think about that actually a lot because we hear so much about people trying to come to our country or, for instance, here in Colorado. I shouldn't be citing facts, so just let me say I read the article, but it was like a week ago. But because there are so many people coming to Colorado and, you know, many of these people have come here illegally, Colorado is – in dire need of extra money to help care for these people. And so 98 million, I believe, is being taken away from various places. And a pretty big chunk of money is being taken away from the police, the sheriff's department, and the fire department. And so a lot of people... are concerned about that and whenever this topic comes up I think about myself and would I if I lived somewhere else would I try to get here you know would I try to get to the U.S. and get my family here you know illegally if I couldn't get here legally and it's something I can't even really fathom because I was so blessed to live here and you know grow up here and as you know I did grow up poor and then some people might say well white privilege you know you're a blonde woman that um you know, had advantages because of the color of your skin or because of the way that I look. Right. But with that said, you know, there are a lot of women that look like me that grew up in my circumstances that didn't end up college educated, that grew up in low income housing with alcoholism and drugs and violence around me and the divorce and my dad being estranged from us and my brothers on two of them of the three on drugs and one murdered, one homeless. A lot of women in my circumstances wouldn't have ended up with a college education and first job NBC in Los Angeles coming straight out of low income housing. But with that said, would I have done something to get here? And I always think to myself, I kind of know myself and I probably would have done something to get here, whether it was legal or illegally. And so then I have a little bit more empathy towards people who've done it. But then I also have concern for our country that we aren't regulating that, you know, very well and that we aren't protecting our own citizens. By the way, our borders are so like, you know, so loose. OK, so with all that said, I guess that makes me think about how lucky I am to have been born here. So that's a long way for me to say a long convoluted explanation of how I think about this often.
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Yeah, and all of us have a story, and we're writing our own script, we're making our own movie, we're creating our own novel every day. And you can take the basic plot, and you can have a happy ending, or you can have a sad ending. You can take any circumstance you want, and you can make it amazingly great, or you can make it horribly bad. But it doesn't have as much to do with where you started. or what you have, it's what you get and how you end up. And I'm not talking about wealth. I'm talking about happiness. Yes. And I'm talking about whatever it is that matters to you. Yes. And that's the most important thing.
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You know, when you talk about this lottery winner in the article, and there was a special, and you may have heard about it. I mean, you are the founder and CEO of the Narrative Television Network. So you guys work on so many television shows to make them accessible to people who can't see. But there was a documentary or something of a sort on lottery winners whose lives had gone wrong. Like the tables had turned in such a negative manner that They were either murdered or, like you said, the divorce rates, bankruptcy, people taking advantage of them. Like you almost want to remain anonymous because so many people come knocking at your door, figuratively speaking. But what I found really interesting about your article besides that was that you were in this huge survey, largest survey of self-made millionaires, and that so many of them cited luck. That – I did find that curious because a lot of successful men, women do are a little bit, you know, sometimes overly confident, but they're confident because they've, you know, no, they've obviously if they're self-made millionaires, they have confidence, but that a lot of times I think they've, they credit themselves. So I found it very interesting that so many of them believe that luck contributed to it.
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Oh, absolutely. And I, you know, and I think that, you know life is not about what happens to you it's about what you do about what happens to you so you know there's a lot of people that can take this lucky break and waste it or squander it or more often than not don't even realize it's there but then other people said that is this that is the moment i am here to seize this moment this is what i've been looking for and uh there it is and Some of it's when preparedness meets opportunity. And, you know, I was ready for this. I was waiting for this. This is what I'm looking for, and I have prepared myself for this. A lot of people, when the opportunity comes along, they weren't prepared for it, so they can't even take advantage of it.
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Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So in terms of your luck, what do you consider to be your luck in becoming a self-made millionaire? Yeah, what made you lucky?
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Well, I was raised in a great home and learned how to have a tremendous attitude and be an optimist. My father, when I started out, he didn't give me anything financially. He gave me something far more valuable. He introduced me to a mentor with a sixth grade education that taught me how to become a millionaire. And then when I lost my sight, I moved into this little room I thought I would never leave again. But that had been our television room. And one day, out of sheer boredom, I put on an old movie on the video player. And wow, I thought, what if I added an extra soundtrack to these movies? The world changed, because I realized there's 13 million blind and visually impaired people in the United States. You put them all together, it'd be the largest television market in America, and they have no access to anything. And all of a sudden, the world changes. And what would happen if you did that? And, you know, and then what would happen if you spoke about that success and then wrote a book about it and then made movies about it and then write columns about it. And then you get to talk to Angie Austin on the radio every week. And, you know, and then a lot of great things have happened.
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That's the first time I've ever heard how you came up with the concept for the Narrative Television Network. I didn't realize it was that early on in your, you know, journey to becoming blind because that was a long journey.
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Oh yeah, I'm sitting in this little 9 by 12 foot room. I thought I would never leave. And before losing my sight, that was our TV room. And I knew right over there across the room from me, somewhere is the television and our video player. And I put on an old movie. humphrey bogart's the big sleep one of the first philip marlowe movies and i love those old mysteries and you know i thought i'll just be able to listen to this and follow along and then you know and it worked for a little while but then somebody shot somebody and somebody screamed and the car sped away and i got really frustrated and i said the magic words i said somebody ought to do something about that and the next time you get really frustrated and hear yourself say somebody ought to do something about that you just had a great idea and the only thing you got to take do to make your great idea into a great business is ask yourself, how can I solve that problem for as many people as possible?
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I love that. I love that. Jim Stovall.com. We're out of time, but friend, you're such a blessing.
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Be well.
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall here with the good news. And today we are talking about his winner's wisdom column titled Message from a Master. How fitting, Jim Stovall.
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Well, thank you. I'm certainly not referring to myself. Late last year, I undertook a project that is completely unique in my 60 books and 9 movies so far. And I undertook to write a sequel of sorts to a John Steinbeck novel he wrote 60 years ago. Yeah, and it will be out next year, and I'm excited about it. But in the process of preparing myself to write that book, which is a little like going to the Louvre and looking at the Mona Lisa and saying, you know, I think Leonardo did a good job on that, but there should be one more thing over here. Let me pencil that in here. So I realize it's been an exercise in... egotism to write on top of Steinbeck and I've tried to do it and thankfully the Steinbeck family and the scholars and everybody have been so gracious and it's been a fun project and it'll be out next year but in the process of doing that I had an opportunity to read everything he wrote for publication and dozens and dozens of letters he wrote to Carl Sandburg and F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway and all these people that he corresponded with and So many, many things he said, and a lot of those quotes are included in the book that will be out next year. But he said the only thing that will escape criticism is mediocrity. Only mediocrity escapes criticism. If you're really, really bad, you'll be criticized. And if you're really, really good at something, you'll be criticized. And we have a tendency to want to avoid criticism. And the only way to do that is to be mediocre, and that is never a good course. And so what we have to do is prepare ourselves for criticism. And everybody that puts themselves out there in the public, whether it's you, Angie, or me, or John Steinbeck, you get criticized. I mean, it's an invitation. Everybody that can sit and listen to an hour of radio, or pick up one of my books, or watch one of my movies... They bought a ticket which entitles them to criticize me. They now have the invitation to criticize Jim. And I'm very thankful that 99% of all that we hear from readers or viewers is positive, as I know yours is. But you still get those things every once in a while where, wow, somebody doesn't have anything better to do than... then get on your case for something. And you have to be prepared for that. But if we can always remember that the price of not being mediocre means you're going to get criticized sometimes. And I think that's what Steinbeck told us, and it's important. And you have to divide that criticism from, is this a well-meaning person that really has a good point here, or... Is this just somebody trying to get in your face and say something, you know?
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You know, it's interesting that in the article you talk about ice cream, and I'll have you explain that in a minute. But one of my colleagues who would always kind of try to cut the joke short when we were like on the set, when we were on the air, kind of like, um, the, the fathering or mothering, you know, the, the, the fun we'd be having if we'd be joking around and she'd be like, oh no, no, no, no, there's no time for that. Let's move on to serious matters or, oh no, that's not nice. And we're like being sarcastic or laughing and everybody in the set's laughing. And it would always be like, you know, the bad mom, the bad dad that would come in and break up the party. And she told me once she said, um, you know, My agent told me that vanilla is the best way to be on the air because, you know, a lot of people maybe like pistachio or they may like chocolate, but everybody's okay with vanilla. So if you're vanilla, you know, and just kind of like you're not making the jokes, you're not straying, you're not doing anything weird with your hair, you're not going out on a limb with the colors you're wearing, you're very beige, then you'll receive less criticism. And I thought, gosh, no. I just don't have it in me to be beige. Like I like to laugh. I like to have fun, you know, have a giggle here and there. And I just can't imagine just like wanting to be vanilla so that I get less criticism or I guess to be honest with you, maybe she's smarter than I am in that fact that. more employable, that you'll rub fewer people the wrong way. Because I remember one of my general managers, he hired me and the news director and liked me, but then his wife didn't like that I was funny. She didn't like that I tried to be funny. So then they came to me and said, we really want you, if the anchors engage with you when you are doing the weather toss or whatever, and they say something funny or they want you to respond, I said, well, how do I not respond? Or how do I not be myself? And then the assistant news director said, well, just tell them you'll get back to them on that later. Okay, so he tossed this to me and goes, really hot out there, Angie. Kind of like that guy you dated in the 90s. I'll get back to you on that later, Ed. You know, I was like, The dumbest thing I've ever heard. Right. But they wanted to like curb who I was. And I'm like, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Like you should have hired someone else because this was in like within like six months of them hiring me. And I'm like, but they liked my sense of humor. So what is this? And then I found out later when that guy was gone, the general manager was gone. His wife didn't like me. And every morning she'd say like. I'm so sick of her trying to be funny and make jokes like tell her not to do that anymore. And so it really came from the general manager's wife, but I just can't be something I'm not in order to please those few people that can't stand me.
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Yeah. And everybody's entitled to their opinion. Uh, I, I did say in this column that, uh, you know, I've met people that literally don't like chocolate ice cream. Well, I, all right. Um, everybody's entitled to their opinion. I, I, I think that's great. And, uh, you know, and it's just, you know, oftentimes criticism is nothing more than somebody's opinion. And we all have them. I mean, when I first got into the film business, I started studying all these films. And I have a small theater here at Narrative Television, just a viewing room. And I started screening films on the weekends with one of my colleagues. Since I'm blind, they could kind of help me through this. And You know, I started with the list of films, the greatest films of the 20th century. I said, okay, that'd be a place to start. And many critics agree the top film, or certainly one of the top films, is Citizen Kane. I watched it three times. I do not like that movie. I don't know what it is about that movie. I do not like it. And it doesn't mean it's not a great movie. I just don't like it. And... I would never openly criticize Orson Welles or the film itself. It's just not my cup of tea. And, you know, there's all kinds of those things. So, you know, we have to separate the criticism. Is this constructive criticism? Somebody trying to make us better? Or... Is this just somebody trying to rattle our cage? Because a lot of critics or people, nitpickers, will come by and try to rattle your cage. And if they can and you react, they'll just keep doing it. That's their payoff. But if you just don't let it bother you, they will go away and bother somebody else. So, you know, I think if you're not being criticized, you know, you really have to look at how mediocre am I? I mean... You know, because if you rise above the crowd or if you fall below the crowd, people are going to criticize you. And if you're not getting criticism, you're probably right there in the vanilla middle of the pack. I heard a great preacher say one time, if you're not coming in, running into opposition, you're probably going the wrong way. And I believe that's true. I mean, you know, if you're not constantly running into challenges and struggles... you're probably floating downstream and not doing anything.
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Yeah, like how you say, as you go through your day today, pay attention to your gifts and ignore the critics. And be the flavor you are, really, is what I say, because it's so hard to be a different flavor. One of my girlfriends that's on the radio and received a lot of criticism over the years for being kind of out there, her dad said, well, it's like parking a lot of cars and you're going in there to buy one. Some people like the yellow VW Bug, some like the Mercedes, and I'm the yellow VW Bug, but that's not everybody's cup of tea, and that's okay. That's all right. Jim, I want to make sure people can find you. What's the best place for us to locate you?
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Jim Stovall, S-T-O-V-A-L-L, jimstovall.com.
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Excellent. Thank you, my friend.
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Be well.
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Well, if you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the good news. Mother's Day just around the corner. And one of our favorites has some ideas for us. She is mom on the run, Colleen Burns, and a mom to six boys. And she definitely knows what makes a mom feel celebrated. Welcome back, Colleen.
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Great to be here. Thank you.
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Hey, I was just looking at DIY gifts for my mom because she's in her 80s and she likes to do things with her hands. I was looking for like crafts and things because she does that with me and with some of the grandkids. So any ideas in that arena?
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Well, yeah, that's a great area in which to look for Mother's Day gifts because it's more memorable if you can personalize things like cards, T-shirts, even water bottles. You can do that with this new Cricut Explore 4. If you're not familiar with Cricut, it is so easy. If you're a crafting person, you'll love it. If you're not a crafting person and you want to learn to craft, it couldn't be easier. It's now two times faster than the other machine. You can cut over 100 materials like vinyl, iron-on, or cardstock. It's a perfect gift to brighten the lives of the moms around you. You can upload and cut your designs or choose from over 1 million images and designs in the Cricut Design Space Library. I don't know if you know, but they have licensed with companies like Disney and Harry Potter and Marvel and recently just Peanuts. So if you want to make a shirt with your favorite characters, Design that. If you're going to Disney World and make your own Mickey Mouse shirts, you can do that. It's a lot cheaper than buying it at the park, obviously, and it's a great family project. One of my favorite projects is a self-care box. This is a great gift for yourself or for a friend who could use some pampering. You design the top of the box, make it personalized, and you fill it with cozy clothes, a candle or oil, beauty products. It's a great thing to open up when you want some alone time.
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I have seen these. They are so cool. I'm actually sending this to my girlfriend for an idea because she makes blankets for pets, you know, so she can personalize them. All right. Cool. Right. All right. How about I'm the mom that's always at all the tournaments and all the games and, you know, with the sore rear end sitting in the stands. Any ideas for us?
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No.
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Right. We're the ultimate cheerleaders, aren't we? Whether it's the soccer pitch, the baseball field, the court side, the pickleball court, whatever it is. And why not be more comfortable? I've been seeing more of these GCI stowaway portable chairs at sporting events. And there's a good reason, because they actually rock. They're like a rocking chair with this unique patented technology. And believe me, sitting is believing. You're not going to find a more comfortable, portable chair. It's light. You can move it around. You can keep it in the back of your car or at home. You can stow it away in the off-season because it packs down so small. But it's light and it's very supportive. It's very comfortable. And for extra convenience, there's even a caddy on. You can put on either arm of the chair to store your water bottle and your phone. And if no one gets this for you for Mother's Day, buy it for yourself because you'll get plenty of use out of it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Awesome. Okay. All right. You know, there's just so many choices out there. I was just looking for my mother-in-law as well, what to get her, and it can be a little overwhelming. Any tips when you just really don't know what to get?
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Well, yeah, that's the key. I think moms fall into two camps, don't you? There's the mom who wants to spend her entire day with her kids, and then there's the mom who just wants a break. And neither one is the right answer, but if you can determine which one it is, you can then try to find a gift that will fit more with her needs. So if the mom wants to spend time with her family, you can look for a new park to explore. Buy her a book. I just found this book, 100 Parks, 5,000 Ideas. You can find a new trail to hike or bike, or you can buy a family game that you can all play together. If you're somebody, a mom who wants to be alone, well then put out a bathrobe and some bath salts and whatever. a lovely playlist on the speaker and then give that mom some space and some time. Another great idea is our gifts of service. I mean, I love those. One of my sons always helps me with the yard work every year and we're making memories while we do it. So it's like a twofer. Another one likes to make me a meal. So, Those are always great gifts, and moms do appreciate that when you take the time. You know, taking time is so important.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I like that idea. I like that a lot. Okay. Thank you, Colleen. Where do we go to get more info? You can get more information at dailylounge.com. Always great to have you, Colleen. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
In this riveting episode of the Flotline, Rick Hughes delves into the heart of what it means to mature spiritually. Through deep exploration of Hebrews and the New Testament, he highlights the roles that spiritual teachers play in guiding believers toward understanding and living out their faith. Are you ready to transform into the person God designed you to be? This conversation provides the roadmap to spiritual maturity.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. And for the next few minutes, you have a cordial invitation to hang around, stick with me, 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, a whole lot of education, and no, no, no manipulation. That's right, no con games, no hustling for money, not asking you to join up, fess up, give it up. We're just asking you to listen up. Listen as I try to explain how the Word of God works for you so I can verify and identify the plan of God for you. And if I can do that, then you can orient and adjust to the plan yourself. It's up to you. In the end, you're responsible for your life, your decisions. Every decision you make, you must take responsibility for it. And I tell you, you have to understand what's out there and how we're supposed to live and how we're supposed to do this thing called human living. So I want to go to a passage today in the book of Hebrews from the New Testament that and I'd like to share something with you that I think is pretty interesting. When I'm traveling around the country, I meet a lot of people. I just returned from a trip to Michigan. I've been to Kansas City this year. I've been to St. Louis. I've been to Tallahassee. I've been to Albany, Georgia. all of these cities in the last two months, and I meet a lot of people. And the people that I meet, some are hungry, some are not. I met a man in my office yesterday who had learned about the show called The Flatline, and he was listening to everyone he could get his hands on. He had a rapid hunger for growth. He wanted to grow rapidly. He wanted to grow quick. He was a 70-year-old man, and he said, you know, I've wasted so many years not really growing, not really understanding what God's plan for my life is. And this is what I run into. A lot of people in a lot of churches that I might speak in have no real hunger. They're just not hungry to learn God's Word. I'm not able to spark an interest, even though I may say something they've never heard before or put it in a way they've never heard it put before. They just don't respond. They just don't have an interest in growing and learning the Word of God. One of the reasons that I do this radio show is to look for those of you that have an interest, those of you that are hungry for truth. The Bible says when knowledge becomes pleasant to your soul and wisdom enters your heart, then you have discernment and you have insight. If knowledge is pleasant, that means you enjoy learning. You enjoy growing spiritually. And what I'm looking for are people that want to grow spiritually, people that identify with what I'm saying, people that say, for example, this is neat. I've never heard it put that way before. How can I learn more? How can I get more information? How can I apply it into my life? So many of you have done that over the 14 years we've been on the radio, and there are others. that are listening to me right now that don't know how to do it or don't know how to say it. You can always write to us, just simply rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org. And you'll find our website there and you can communicate through the website or you can simply email me to rick at rickhughesministries.org, rick at rickhughesministries.org. The passage I want to share with you today comes from Hebrews and whoever wrote it, whether it was Apollos or whether it was Paul, we don't really know. The writer doesn't identify himself, but he talks about slow learners, slow learners of the Scripture. Here's what he said. He's writing, and he says, Of whom we have many things to say, and they're hard to be uttered, since you are dull of hearing. Verse 12, Hebrews chapter 5. For when for the time you ought to be teachers... You have need that someone teach you again what is the first principles of the oracles of God. And you have become such as one who needs milk and not strong meat. For everyone that drinks the milk is unskillful in the word of righteousness. He's still a baby. But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even to those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. And this is something that you might get tricked up on. What's the difference between good and evil? That's a great biblical question. So the writer is writing to people that have been saved for a while, people that should be able to teach basics to other people, people that should be able to explain different biblical doctrines or different biblical rationales, and they don't know how. even though they may have been saved a long, long time because the writer said you ought to be a teacher. Now you've got to need someone has to come back and teach you again the very first basics, the basics of the oracles of God. And then he goes on to describe them as milk drinkers, and they couldn't have a steak. They have to have some milk, and he would like to feed them a steak. Getting a stake is that wonderful way of studying the Word of God in depth. You know, when I go to a Bible class and I listen, my pastor usually teaches for an hour solid without quitting. If it's a conference, it's an hour and a half without stopping. And if I'm speaking, usually I'll speak for an hour without stopping. Most people are not used to that kind of length-long sermons. And we're not ranting and raving and yelling and screaming, we're just teaching the Word of God. Most people tune out after about 10 or 15 minutes, especially on Sunday morning. In my day-to-day experience, I meet many believers who are not really hungry. They're not hungry to grow spiritually. Knowledge is not pleasant to their soul. They don't yearn for knowledge. As a matter of fact, they don't even sense the meaning of growing spiritually. That term is alien to them. What exactly does that mean, grow up spiritually? And so they're faithful people. Yes, they are. There's no doubt they are believers in Jesus Christ. They attend church and they even give of their tithes. But as far as understanding the spiritual life, And the demands the spiritual life puts on us, they know very little. That's exactly the problem of the writer here in Hebrew says, you don't know anything. You ought to be teaching other people, but you don't know it. So I have to give you the milk, he says. I mean, come on, they know not to sin. People know not to sin. I'm speaking of people in churches today now. They know the biggies, you know, don't drink, don't dance, don't smoke, don't chew gum, don't walk with wild women and stuff like that. But they don't really understand how the mechanics work in the Christian life. They know if they sin, they should ask for forgiveness. Yes, they know that. But they don't really understand what that does or what the spiritual life as a whole, how it operates. And in some instances, what's sorry or pitiful is the rate of forgetting has exceeded the rate of learning. So they forgot more than they've learned. And when we, I mean, this is important. When you are born physically, you have to grow. I have a grandson and Watching him grow up is really fun. Watching him grow. He starts off eating milk and then solid foods. And we've got to have food for energy, food for growth. And without food for energy, the newborn person would be malnourished and eventually die. Thus, I mean, we have to ask ourselves this question. Am I growing energy? spiritually, not physically. I know we're all growing physically as we get older, the belt gets a little tighter and tighter. But are we growing spiritually? The question is, do you know more today about your new life in Christ than you did last year? Because you are commanded to grow spiritually. In 2 Peter 3.18, the Bible lays it out plain. It says, grow in the grace and the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. And grow is a mandated verb. It's not a request. It's an imperative mood verb by the Apostle Peter to grow spiritually, grow in the grace, in the charis, C-H-A-R-I-S, and in the knowledge, the epinosis of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. So connection to the Lord is the key to growth. That's what you have to understand. Connection to the Lord is the key to growth. And in 2 Peter 3.18, it's really a key. And it simply means this. You have to understand who the Lord Jesus Christ is and what the Lord Jesus Christ has done and what the Lord Jesus Christ continues to do for you on a daily basis. And the only way you can ever do that, this requires a Bible and a teacher Since all that he's done and all he continues to do is written for our advantage in the scripture, in the Bible. So why a teacher? Why do we need a teacher? Why did I say that this requires a Bible and a teacher? Well, because the spiritual gift of pastor teacher, that's what the Holy Spirit uses to enlighten you. Eventually, all of us have to get under a well-qualified pastor because if we don't, You're not going to figure this thing out on your own. And if you don't get under a well-qualified pastor, you're probably not looking for one to start with. You have no knowledge. It's not pleasant to your soul. It's an interruption to your routine. You don't have time to pursue it, right? So listen to Ephesians 4.11. And he gave some apostles and some prophets, some evangelists and some pastors and teachers. Pastor and teacher is one word. Poimen kai didaskalos. That's one word. And why did he give these gifts? For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come in the unity of the faith. So what is it for the perfecting of the saints? That's for you and I, for us to be perfect, to be like Christ, for us to assimilate his thinking, his lifestyle, for the work of the ministry so we can replicate what the Lord Jesus Christ did and we can represent his ministry and his life to others. for the edifying of the body of Christ so that we can all be built up together to become mature believers together until, verse 13, Ephesians 4, till we all come in the unity of the faith. We all get on the same page by the same pastor who's got us squared away, understanding what? unity of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. That's the objective of the pastor. The pastor is to teach God's Word to perfect the saints, to follow the work of the ministry so that the body of Christ can be edified and Come to the unity of the faith in the knowledge of the Son of God unto mature men, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, so that we be henceforth no more children tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine by the slight of men, cunning craftiness whereby they lie in wait to deceive. But speaking the truth in love, we may grow up into him. That's the Lord Jesus Christ. in whom all things, which is the head, even Christ, from whom the body is joined together, compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, making increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. That's a lot of scripture I just read. I'm sitting here reading this and I'm thinking, I probably just lost you right there. Let me back up. This is why we have pastor teachers. God gave men who have the gift. Some men have the gift of evangelism. That's my gift. Some men have the gift of pastor and teacher. The gift of apostle no longer operates today. The gift of prophet no longer operates today. Apostles were those who had to have seen the Lord Jesus Christ, and prophets are a different gift. We have the canon of Scripture today, the completed Bible. We don't need a prophet. It's all right there. But we do need evangelists and pastor teachers so the saints can grow up, so the ministry can continue, so the body of Christ can be edified. This is directly related to you. You have to understand this. Until you get under the ministry of a well-qualified pastor, you're never really going to grow up. You will learn some things. You'll pick up some stuff on your own. You can read through the Bible. As a guy told me the other day, he said, I've read through the Bible twice in my lifetime, but I never knew what I was reading or even understood it. And yet, when he got under a well-qualified pastor, it became alive to him. All of a sudden, the dots started being connected. Reading the Bible alone by yourself is like trying to put together a jigsaw puzzle. Some of the pieces are missing. But until you get that man that can teach you what God's Word says, you're never going to be able to put the puzzle together. Once you find that pastor, once you get under that man who has that ability to delineate the word of God to you, then your spiritual life will take off like a rocket ship, I promise you. So the objective of spiritual growth, what is the objective? It's for you to become more and more like Jesus Christ. See, when we place our faith in Jesus Christ, God the Holy Spirit comes to indwell us and live in us and begins the process of making us more like him, conforming us to his image. That's why we have problem-solving device number one is rebound. If you quench the Holy Spirit by sin and grieve the Holy Spirit by not rebounding your sin, then obviously you can't grow. You can't grow spiritually because if you're going to grow, it takes three things. It takes the ministry of the Holy Spirit. It takes the living Word of God. And it takes a well-qualified pastor that can teach it to you. The Bible is a textbook. It's not a novel. It's a textbook. And when it says study to show thyself approved unto God, that means study the text. What do you do when you take tests in school? You have to take a test on what you learn. And 1 Corinthians 10, 13 says, don't be surprised if you're tested. Everybody gets tested. And you have to pass those tests. You have to grow to be spiritually mature and pass the test that God puts you under to see if you learned how to apply that doctrine to your life. So the whole objective of you growing spiritually is you becoming more like Jesus Christ. I'm not acting holy and spiritual and walking around going, oh brother, oh sister, praise the Lord this, praise the Lord that. No, it's thinking like Christ. It's assimilating the divine viewpoint. It all starts with a transformation on the inside. as Romans 12, one through three says, and it talks about renovating your thinking. It says, stop thinking of yourself in terms of arrogance beyond what you should think. But think in terms of humility as God has assigned to each one of us a standard of thinking from his word. And so the Christian life is lived in your mind. It's lived where you think. Your soul has mentality. Your mentality, your soul has volition. What you think and what you do has tremendous impact on your life. If you don't think right, you can't do right. And so Satan is in the deceiving business. He loves to deceive you and to get you to believe a lie, to get you to think off course, off track, or not think at all. That's even better. Just operate on your emotions and go through life not really thinking. Just say, well, you know, my emotions help me. I figure it out. I have an intuition. That's not learning the Word of God. Learning the word of God starts inside transformation. And Philippians 2.5 says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. It means you must learn to think like he thought. Or you have to learn to think divine viewpoint. Thinking divine viewpoint is the key because the cosmic system has a way of thinking we know of called evil. Evil is the genius of Satan, and it is the mainstay of the cosmic system. Evil takes grace and distorts it just a little bit, just a little bit. You won't even be able to tell it's evil. You know, it may sound good, look good, smell good, but it's evil. Something like this in regards to salvation. The Bible says, For by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should brag about it. But evil says this. Here comes Satan along and says, no, it goes like this. For by grace are you saved through faith and give up drinking Coca-Colas. And then you can be saved. No, no, it's not giving up anything. You see, the neat thing about what our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ did on that cross is he paid for all of our sins. The Bible says, he that knew no sin was made sin for us. He paid for them. He was judged in our place. We cannot approvate God by quitting sinning. Our sin were paid for. And what turns God on is when you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible is clear about that. He that believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. And he that believeth not, the wrath of God abides on him already. You want to please God? Jesus said, this is the will of the one that sent me that you believe in me whom he has sent. Until you believe that Jesus is the Christ, the anointed son of God, the Messiah, you're not saved. And it is faith alone in Christ alone. It's not I believe it and I quit drinking. I believe it and I started going to church. I believe it and, you know, and then if you fall off the wagon, then I'm not saved anymore. I went back to drinking or I quit going to church. So now I'm not saved anymore. It doesn't work like that. Once you receive the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior, you're born spiritually, spiritually reborn. If any man's in Christ, he's a new creation. Old things are passed away. All things become new, a spiritual birth. And when you have a spiritual birth, you're not going to have a spiritual unbirth. a spiritual dying and then have to be born again two or three times in your lifetime. No. One time is enough. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, Paul told the Roman jailer. And then once you get saved, what's next? Changing the way you think. Learning divine viewpoint. Staying out of the cosmic system. Not buying into the lies of evil, which is the genius of Satan. Why do you think our Lord appointed those disciples as apostles, those fishermen as apostles, those people that tax collector as an apostle? Why? Well, they were to record his actions and his thoughts as well as record what happened for our edification. so we can learn how we can handle situations the same way. So the Holy Spirit took these men and took the information they learned from the Lord Jesus Christ and helped them to put it in print. And that Word of God in print is called the mind of Christ. And 1 Corinthians 2.13 tells us we have the mind of Christ. It is the New Testament. It's the Bible. There it is for you. So that's what they did. They never thought they would be writing scripture. And in a million years, they couldn't have thought of we're writing a Bible. They didn't think like that. They wrote letters to churches. They wrote letters to other believers. And that became scripture. And in those letters, they reproduced the thinking of Christ. They told people what Christ did, how he did it, how he handled situations. as a reference to you so you know how to do the same thing but distractions are a are a weapon of the enemy i promise you aka the devil he uses our distractions and he can encourage your defeat what i mean by that it means you never reach spiritual maturity you never bring maximum glorification to god because why you're just too busy to pay attention Too busy doing stuff and your spiritual growth never took place. If you've been a Christian 15, 20, 30 years, I mean, I could ask you just a few questions. How well do you know them? Could you tell me the essence of God? Could you explain dispensations to me? Do you know what it means to be a spiritually mature believer? Do you know the difference between spirituality and maturity? Do you know that? I mean, I could go on and on and on with questions. Yet you go to church, you assemble yourself, you listen, you go home, you feel good about yourself because you went to church today and you paid tribute to God. I mean, that's when church becomes a ritual and not a reality because you're too busy doing other things. Defeat means you never reach spiritual maturity. You never bring maximum glorification to God. You're just too busy to pay attention. So you're a little bit of church, just your little bit that made you feel good about yourself. And it became ritual without reality. Just an exercise in going to a Christian community. And you might call it worshiping, but it's not even close to true worship, I promise you. I mean, yep, you honored God by going and attending on Sunday and going to Sunday school. But what did you learn in regards to advancing in your spiritual life? God is looking for a few well-qualified believers, men and women that can stand in the gap, men and women that can represent him accurately. So this stuff about playing church doesn't cut it with the Lord. When we teach the plan of God on the flat line, when we lay out those 10 problem-solving devices, these are exactly the same steps our Lord used when he walked on this earth, except he never had to confess his sins as we do, and he never had to be occupied with Christ as we do, but Problem solving device number one and problem solving device number 10, he didn't do. But he did two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight, and nine. Yes, he did. He was filled with the Holy Spirit. He did operate under the faithless drill. He did use grace orientation. He did use biblical orientation. He did have a personal sense of destiny. He did have personal love for his father. He did have impersonal love for all mankind. That's why he went to the cross. And he did share in the happiness of God, yes. And he told you how to share in the happiness of God as well. He said, happiness belongs to those people who hear my Father's word and keep it. So learning these 10 problem-solving devices and using them in your life, long process, is what will shape you into thinking divine viewpoint and give you the maximum glorification of God in your life so that when you get before God in heaven, And it's going to happen someday, whether you like it or not. It's going to happen. And you want to hear, well done, my good and my faithful servant. You don't want to pat on the back and say, attaboy, glad you made it. Have a seat. We'll see you in a few thousand years. Sure, you'll be in heaven. but there's no reward, there's no rejoicing. You're there, you got eternal life, but you showed up late for the game. You didn't do your job. That's the bottom line. Now, this cannot be done apart from the filling of the Holy Spirit, and it cannot be done apart from the consistent intake of the Word of God metabolized into spiritual momentum in your life. You can never grow spiritually without that. So the eventual outcome is, is your happiness is guaranteed by our Lord, and it's reflected in the way you think as well as the way you represent your lifestyle to those around you. Or you can continue to play church, play Christian, continue to be a caricature of Christ. You're saved? Yep. Serving? Nope. You don't even recognize what your spiritual gift is or how to use it yet. How could you be satisfied with that? I was on the internet the other day at a place called gotquestions.org and saw this. I thought it was a good statement, so I'm going to read it to you. When the transformation of salvation takes place, spiritual growth begins. The Holy Spirit indwells us, John 14, 16 through 17. We are new creatures in Christ, 2 Corinthians 5, 17. The old sinful nature begins to give way to the new Christ-like nature, Romans 6 and 7. And spiritual growth begins. is a lifelong process that depends on our study and application of God's Word, 2 Timothy 3, 16 and 17. and our walk in the Spirit, Galatians 5.16. As we seek to spiritually grow, we should pray to God and ask for wisdom concerning the areas that he desires us to grow in. We can ask God to increase our faith and our knowledge of him because God desires for us to grow spiritually, and he's given us all we need to experience that. With the Holy Spirit's help, we can overcome our sin and steadily become more like our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. Now, I didn't say that. They said that. But that's the exact same thing I'm telling you. Are you ready to start growing spiritually? Are you ready to be the man or the woman that God designed you to be? Then let's do it together. Let's get with the program. Let's become that person. Stay filled with the Spirit. Get under a well-qualified pastor. Take in God's Word every day and glorify the Lord Jesus Christ. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flotline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Explore a heated debate on the Mike Gallagher Show. This episode unearths the layers of public opinion surrounding Trump's potential reopening of Alcatraz. Mike and callers discuss whether this represents a step toward necessary law enforcement or Trump's penchant for dramatic gestures. The show navigates between lighthearted commentary, critical analysis, and passionate listener opinions, making for a riveting examination of current events.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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You know the old joke about Trump learning how to walk on water and his critics would say that's because he's too stupid to know how to swim? I'm starting to think that is absolutely correct when it comes to some of these initiatives and projects and plans that he is hatching for the United States of America. Alcatraz. Why would anybody care if he reopens Alcatraz? Why would anybody push back against that? But push back against it they are. CNN Trump's order to reopen Alcatraz is the perfect metaphor for his second term. It's a quintessentially Trumpian idea. Locking down offenders in tiny cells. I'm reading this from CNN.com. I swear to you this is not the Babylon Bee. CNN.com. Locking down offenders in tiny cells on an island surrounded by swirling murderous currents would feed Donald Trump's craving for macho spectacle. They literally wrote a column complaining that Trump is simply trying to feed his craving for macho spectacle. The waters are swirling. The murderous currents. They left out the sharks. Aren't there sharks in those waters? Well, that would be terrible for, you know, serial killers. And axe murderers and child rapists and kidnappers. That would be terrible. They might get bit by a shark if they tried to swim away. This is such a Trumpian idea. Here was Trump sort of waxing poetic, as media-ites cynically put it, about reopening Alcatraz, the prison.
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How did you decide to reopen Alcatraz? Can you walk us through that decision?
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Did I say what?
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To reopen Alcatraz. How will you use it?
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How did you come up with the idea? Well, I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker. We're talking, we started with the movie making and we'll end. I mean, it represents something very strong, very powerful in terms of law and order. Our country needs law and order. Alcatraz is, I would say, the ultimate, right? Alcatraz, Sing Sing and Alcatraz, the movies. But it's right now a museum, believe it or not. A lot of people go there. It has the most violent criminals in the world. And nobody ever escaped. One person almost got there, but they, as you know the story, they found his clothing rather badly ripped up. And it was a lot of shark bites, a lot of problems. Nobody's ever escaped from Alcatraz and just represented something strong having to do with law and order. We need law and order in this country. And so we're going to look at it. Some of the people up here are going to be working very hard on that. And we had a little conversation. I think it's going to be very interesting. We'll see if we can bring it back in large form, add a lot. But I think it represents something. Right now, it's a big hulk that's sitting there rusting and rotting. Very, you look at it, it's sort of, you saw that picture that was put out. It's sort of amazing. But it sort of represents something that's both horrible and beautiful and strong and miserable, weak. It's got a lot of qualities that are interesting. And I think they make a point.
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The best part of that clip is that the camera has a three-shot of the D.C. mayor, Muriel Bowser, and the NFL commissioner, Roger Goodell. And the two of them look like they want to crawl under the carpet. They want to dig a hole and bury themselves in it. She looks completely, utterly constipated. Goodell looks just lost. You know, they were in the White House ostensibly to announce that, I guess, what is it, the NFL draft is going to take place on the mall or something in Washington? I don't know. It was an NFL announcement of some kind regarding the NFL draft. And somehow the mayor of Washington, D.C., who's a Trump hater, and Roger Goodell, who I don't know what, they're standing behind him looking around like, what in the world am I doing here? How am I here right now? They're thinking of all the places they'd rather be, like the surface of Mars, at the bottom of the ocean. And there's Trump... waxing poetic about Alcatraz. Leave it to the great Scott Jennings on CNN last night who asked a reasonable question about reopening Alcatraz.
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The idea of reopening a prison that's been closed for many, many decades because it just doesn't make sense to house people there. Why?
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Well, does it? I don't know. He said he was going to study it. I mean, we have a prison overcrowding problem. You've been fussing about recently him sending American criminals overseas to their prisons. Don't we need more prisons in the United States? Okay, okay. What's the matter?
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I think, I don't know if Scott was making a reference to Christmas Carol. You know the reference, right? Remember the line from Charles Dickens and Scrooge at Christmas Carol? Are there no prisons? Are the workhouses not in operation? Well, we need more prisons. Why not Alcatraz? I just hope they rename it Magatraz. It's got to be Magatraz, not Alcatraz. But seriously, what is the problem with reopening? Why would the Trump haters hate this idea? What's wrong? I mean, if Alcatraz is too Trumpian, as somebody just texted Paul from Philly, what about Devil's Island? And forget the Birdman of Alcatraz. Now we've got the orange man of Alcatraz. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome aboard. It's Tuesday, May the 6th, 2025. Let's dive in. Look, if you're against it, tell me why. If it's a bad idea to reopen Alcatraz, can you tell me why you're opposed to it, please? Everything the man comes up with, they're going to find fault with, no matter how good or maybe how bad the idea is. Is this a bad idea? We've got a lot to break down today. We've got a lot of breaking news on this Tuesday here in the Relief Factor Studios. Welcome in.
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Mike Gallagher.
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The text from Michigan, Democrats don't believe in putting criminals in prison, just political opponents. Somebody else said, maybe the reason the Democrats are against reopening Alcatraz is they're worried they're going to wind up there. Tish James, anyone? Have you seen this Letitia James and her speeches? This woman is completely off her rocker, screeching and screaming about how she's Booker T. Washington. This is the scoundrel who campaigned on getting Trump, and now she's trying it again. Now she's ramping up another round of lawfare against Donald Trump. It's like she's not going to stop. These are some sick, sick people. I was having to navigate through the Social Security website last night. Boy, it's glitchy and tough and complicated. I hit 65 a few weeks ago, and it's a weird feeling because dealing with Medicare can be just an absolute nightmare. nightmare. First of all, you get overwhelmed. The phone won't stop ringing. The junk mail floods in. The fine print, the pressure. And so I started looking for somebody, anybody who could help me navigate the Medicare maze. I found it with Chapter. Chapter. Their team walked me through everything step by step. They didn't push any kind of insurance plan. They weren't working for the insurance industry. They worked for me. Chapter is totally independent. They have a team of advisors who compare every Medicare option that's out there for you, and they make sure you don't miss anything. So look, if you're approaching 65, even if you're over 65, let them save you money. There's no pressure, no agenda, just honest, personal help. I love this company. I want to get the head guy back on the show, Eli. These are great folks. It's called Chapter. Dial 25Medicare and connect with Chapter. That's the number, 25Medicare. Easiest phone number in the world. They make Medicare simple. Chapter is different. Premiums for plans are dropping on average of 34%. If you're turning 65, if you're over 65, take control. Call Chapter today. You'll be glad you did. Dial 25 Medicare, Chapter 25 Medicare. All right, everybody on hold loves the idea of opening Alcatraz except Debbie in Houston. So let's find out what's on Debbie's mind. So you don't like the idea? Debbie? Hello, Debbie. Darn it, I wanted to find out what she didn't like about it. Let's try again. Hey, Debbie, are you there? All right. I guess not. I don't know. Oh, the phone bank is off. Oh, the phone bank was potted up. There we go. Hey, every time I go away for a day, somebody changes all the settings in here. Hey, Debbie, sorry about that. There you are. Yeah, I'm here. How are you?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm good. Good. I'm in major traffic.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I'm glad to keep you company.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right? I don't like the idea for two reasons. One is that They said, well, first of all, it's a historic landmark, and I would love to visit Alcatraz, and there'll be no more visiting Alcatraz.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I don't know that taking it away as a tourist destination is a good reason. Incidentally, I've been. It is a great thing to visit. It really is fascinating.
SPEAKER 14 :
And they're also saying that the money to rebuild it, I mean, why not just spend the money on a brand new prison?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, maybe it's cheaper to just refurbish the old one.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, if it's cheaper, great.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, yeah, I got it. Well, I mean, again, I really want more than just sort of an exercise in, well, what's a good idea? You know, Trump's point about how it's a terrible yet beautiful image, he's right. It is, on the one hand, I mean, it's off the coast of San Francisco. It's in the waters. It's kind of scary and ominous. But it's also kind of a grim reminder of what happens when things go bad, when you make bad choices, when things go wrong in your life. Don't we want people who could be making decisions about their life to make good decisions rather than bad ones? Isn't it a good idea to show people what the consequences of their actions could be? Patrick Bet-David has a very popular podcast, the PBD podcast. He was on Fox News Channel reacting to this big announcement about Alcatraz.
SPEAKER 07 :
When you hear Van Jones talking about Democrats don't know what they're doing, they're losing the audience, the 80-20 position, they're always taking a 20% position. Crockett is now the face of it? Is that who it's going to be, the face of the Democratic Party? They're falling for this trap over and over again. And again, it's making him look like... It's making him look like a guy that controls them in an indirect way. He's the puppet master of the enemy because they're falling for his trap. He wakes up and I bet President Trump goes to sleep at night and wakes up in the morning and says, you know what? What am I going to say today to get under their skin? You know what? Alcatraz. Let's talk about it. Let's piss off the mainstream media and let's get them get distracted and go talk about that. Every day he keeps succeeding with these games he plays with them.
SPEAKER 09 :
He makes a good point about how they fall for it every time. And I don't know if that's the goal or not. The Canada's 51st state thing comes to mind. I didn't get that. I still don't get it. Maybe Trump's threat got the liberal guy elected. I don't know. Carney, incidentally, is in Washington today to meet with Trump. The way the sympathetic mainstream media paints it, oh, he's going to stand up to Trump. He's going to Washington to stand up to Trump. He's going to take him on. But this Patrick Bet-David makes a terrific point. They fall for it every single time. And yet normal, decent people love the Trump presidency. Look at people who lost a child. The angel moms. Here was Caroline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, pointing out what the angel moms are saying about the Trump presidency.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's sad, truly, that we have to put mugshots of illegal alien criminals on the front lawn of the White House in order for the mainstream media to actually cover these stories. They should be covering them, but because they do not, we will put them right in their faces. And it drew a lot of attention, as it should. Last week at the White House, I met with angel mothers whose names your audience may not know because they are... living in silence. They are living in a tragic circumstance where their children were taken away from them by illegal alien criminals. And no politician, they told me, until Donald Trump cared about their stories, cared about listening to them. So we had them at the White House last week for a listening session. We're going to continue to engage. with these angel parents who have lost their children as a result of the Democrats' open border policies. And every day we are reminded by their testimony, their stories, the lives of their loved ones, law-abiding American citizens who should still be with us when we are mass-supporting illegal alien criminals from our nation's interior.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's Caroline Leavitt last night on Sean Hannity's show on Fox News, and she's right. Normal people are grateful. This presidency is an epic, epic presidency. This is one of the most effective, jaw-dropping administrations we have ever, ever witnessed. So it's really a fascinating thing to behold. And it's not just Republicans praising him. There's a Democrat... named Tom Swozy, or Swazi, Swozy, right, Eric? Who, Swazi, who weighed in on what Trump has done with the border. Where do you hear this? This is coming from a Democrat. Buckle up.
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SPEAKER 09 :
All right, so here's this lady that Juanita Broderick reposted on her ex-account. Look, I love following Juanita's posts. Of course, she was... You know, one of Bill Clinton's alleged victims back in the day. And that's sort of her historical prominence. This is the lady. Just an anti-Trump protest. We're seeing these all over the country. Mostly in blue cities. But not exclusively. Middle-aged woman. If you're watching on Salem News Channel, you'll see what she looks like. She looks completely normal. and yet spews complete vitriolic evil.
SPEAKER 04 :
She's a con artist and a thief. And I hope every day, wake up every day and pray that he dies.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you don't mean that. That's an evil thought to say. Don't you want to win based on winning the argument?
SPEAKER 04 :
I want him to be gone out of our hair and our country. He is destroying the entire world. Do you know?
SPEAKER 06 :
How did you feel when they missed him with the bullet?
SPEAKER 04 :
Wait a minute. Do you know, I was pissed. Oh my God, I was pissed. And some man lost his life over it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Some man that nobody even talks about lost his life over it. He was brought on stage. His jacket was brought on stage at the RNC.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, you know, and hey. So we do talk about it as Republicans. It wasn't a person that shot him. It was a gun that did the damage. So, Trump, and may he die tomorrow.
SPEAKER 09 :
It wasn't a person who shot Cory Camperatori. It was a gun that did it. F Trump and may he die tomorrow. And praise that he dies. Who do you think she prays to? Do you think she prays to God that Trump will die? I honest to gosh lose the ability to form words. I just want to, I would love to talk to that woman. and say to her, do you realize what you have become? Dominic in Illinois, 25 past the hour. Hey, Dominic, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Did you hear what that lady said?
SPEAKER 03 :
How you doing? Yeah, I still have chills going down my spine and my arms. Mike, I'm telling you, I live in Des Plaines, Illinois, which is Crook County. It's probably the worst county in Illinois. And this is what we live with daily, every single day.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, if she looked at that video of herself, do you think she'd be proud of that? Probably. Really?
SPEAKER 03 :
Or would she say, I got carried away? No, I believe, to listen to that, it was a disgusting display of humanity.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that's what they're doing, Dominic, and whether it's displaying Illinois or Oakland or downtown St. Petersburg, Florida, these people, I mean, and I really suspect that a lot of it might be an absence of faith. That's why I'd like to meet her. Because let me tell you something, if she's praying to God that somebody kills Donald Trump or that he dies, she can't honestly think that God views that with favor. These women are, and like Juanita Broderick said, these awful, evil, white women, and it's almost always white women. You don't see black women or Hispanic women talking this way. It's women like this. who looked like somebody's grandmother from a white suburb. Here's Debra in Columbus, Ohio. Debra, what do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hi, Mike. Hi. You are so correct. I'm a white woman, 70 years old, and these women are brainwashed. They've been hearing what's on the news. You know, they've been listening to this news about how terrible that Trump is for all these years, and they believe that he's a rapist, that he doesn't deserve to live.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, if the media continues, you're right, you make a good point. When you repeat a narrative that somebody is Adolf Hitler, that leads a weak, impressionable woman like that woman to say, yeah, I pray he dies. Every day I pray he dies or gets killed. I was pissed that the bullet missed him in Butler, Pennsylvania. Can you imagine one of us saying that about a Democrat?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, and you know what, Mike? A lot of these women are, I mean, they're in my circle. And a lot of them, really, they think they're good women, and in a lot of ways, they are. They're not like this about anybody but Donald Trump. It's Donald Trump. They just hate him, and they think he's so evil, and they don't think he deserves to live because he's raped people, and he's done all these things.
SPEAKER 09 :
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
SPEAKER 09 :
There's some breaking news out of Washington, D.C., and it involves North Carolina Senator Tom Tillis. Boy, what a piece of work this guy is. The so-called Republican senator has now told reporters he opposes Ed Martin's nomination to be the top prosecutor, the federal prosecutor, for the District of Columbia. Tillis spoke to reporters moments ago He met with Martin last night. Incidentally, you know Tom Tillis is up for re-election next year? The only people who are going to vote for this guy are Democrats. Because Ed Martin is going to hand this key prosecutor position over to the Democrats, and he knows it. We're going to have more Soros-sponsored prosecutors thanks to people like Tom Tillis. He's upset about comments that Ed Martin made about January 6th. I'm not kidding you. I'm so infuriated right now at this guy. Tillis said in his high and mighty on his high horse, I have no tolerance for anybody that breached the perimeter on January 6th. And with Tom Tillis now signaling, and incidentally, you know what happens? This Boseberg, this Judge Boseberg is going to get to pick the D.C. prosecutor. And Boseberg mysteriously gets all of these cases involving Trump. He keeps getting assigned Trump cases. I wonder when the Tom Tillises of the world are going to get around to wondering why that happens. These rogue judges are running amok. And right now... Town Hall obtained a letter from Congressman Jim Jordan, Daryl Issa, and Chip Roy wanting to understand why in the world this Trump-hating, lunatic judge, James Boasberg, who's the chief judge of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, why he keeps getting assigned cases to do with Trump's second term. It's happening over and over again. Well, Tom Tillis apparently just dealt the fatal blow to Trump's pick to be the D.C. prosecutor. And you should hear Tillis, his explanation. It's maddening. He likes Ed Martin. He's a good man. If he was going to be the prosecutor in any other district, I'd probably be in favor of him. But I'm going to vote again. I will not support him because of his comments over January 6th. What did he say about January 6th? Who cares? That's in the rearview mirror. But Tom Tillis, as a member of the Judiciary Committee... signals his opposition to Ed Martin, which means that, you know, the Democrats are going to get that pick. They're going to get that position. His logic is absurd. He pretends not to know about all the January Sixers who walked into the Capitol being waved in by the Capitol Police. Tom Tillis said, oh, no, you entered that perimeter. That's a deal breaker for me. Tom Tillis is a joke. And I really do believe that our biggest threat, not the lunatic Democrats who have no plan, whose only mantra is, I hate Trump. It's Republicans who act like this. Tillis is going to just deliver this critical position to the Democrats. If Ed Martin doesn't get confirmed... Boesberg gets to choose the replacement. It's appalling. And Tom Tillis has to lose. I want to focus a lot on Tom Tillis' re-election next year. Because we've got to get him out of office. There's enough normal people in North Carolina who have had it with Tom Tillis. Absolutely ridiculous. And this is a huge problem for us. Democrats never act this way. I mean, right now they're unified in their contempt for Donald Trump, to be clear. But you know something? These Republicans have got to lose their re-election effort. They've got to be primaried. They've got to be dealt with. They've got to be dealt with. They've got to lose. And Tom Tillis, frankly, is one of the worst of the worst. He's got to lose next year. And frankly, we've got to call on normal people to oppose his re-election. This guy is the Democrats' best friend. Lewis is in Greenville, South Carolina, 21 before the hour. Hey, Lewis, welcome aboard. How are you?
SPEAKER 11 :
All right. I just got to ask you, you know, you y'all keep talking about Tom Tillich like a rogue judge. Can I ask you this question? Every party that basically goes against the norm of Donald Trump and regroups what he says, it's basically like he is a celebrity. If you don't agree with what he says or what his topics and his atmosphere is, It's the person that's a bad person. Do you not think that all the stuff that he does, that he should be accountable for that, no matter what judge it is?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, who in the world doesn't think there should be accountability? What have I ever said there shouldn't be accountability? What do you mean there's no accountability?
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, you talk about accountability a lot. I listen to the show many times, but Donald Trump is not accountable for anything that he does. Donald Trump is your president, Lewis.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's the guy that more than half the country selected to be President of the United States. What accountability do you want him to have that he doesn't have?
SPEAKER 11 :
He's accountability for the things that he says, the things that he does. Like what? Like what? Okay, first thing, he thinks that laws don't abide by him. He doesn't abide by any rules, any regulations. He thinks if they don't agree with him, let's fire him. Let's arrest the judge if they don't agree with him. How many arrested judges that didn't agree with him?
SPEAKER 09 :
You're not making any sense. You're not even giving me any example of Donald Trump not facing accountability.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're just... And look, you... The insurrection.
SPEAKER 09 :
The insurrection. Oh, the insurrection. There was no insurrection. Will you go away? What insurrection? I mean, do you enjoy sitting around being miserable that Trump is your president? What does it mean to you to know that that's your president, Lewis?
SPEAKER 11 :
What does that mean to you? That's people who don't care about America's president. People who care about America's president, that would be their president. Donald Trump doesn't care about America. He cares about designing his own pocket. That's what he cares about.
SPEAKER 09 :
I get that. So what? That and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee. Who cares? I mean, Lewis, you can sit around. You're baying at the moon. Your words don't mean anything. And I'm not trying to be mean-spirited to you. I get that you don't like the guy. So do something about it. Formulate a plan. What Democrat do you like to replace the Republican in 2028? Who are you looking to? What plan do you have that's better than his secure border plan?
SPEAKER 11 :
I want a rough idea. office myself this term, and I would love to run for office. All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
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Mike Gallagher tackles the contentious issue of media bias, exploring how coverage varies when it comes to the Trump administration. Through humorous anecdotes and serious reflections, he questions the motives behind media narratives and urges listeners to think critically. He also delves into the recent CNN interview with cartel members following Trump's policies, sparking debate on journalism practices in today's world.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I'm sailing along. Everything's going great in my world. Had a nice event Friday in Savannah, Georgia. The great Carl Jackson guest hosted. Eric Hansen's finally back from his months-long vacation touring the world. Everybody's everything's right in my world. I'm in New York City for some meetings for a day. Just a quick trip in and out. Be back to Florida tonight. Who's got a luckier than I do? I love my life. I love my job. I love my my family, my friends, my co-workers. And then I see the White House repost a meme that shows Donald Trump depicted as the pope. And I realize in my heart and in my gut, it's not really my favorite thing to see. And I know I'm going to get my head taken off. It's coming. Go ahead. Yell at me. Because I don't love this. I saw an article, and maybe it's because of the article written by Victor Davis Hanson, one of the smartest people I've ever interviewed, who said Trump's going to win if he takes the high road. And the theme of the Victor Davis Hanson article is sort of like everything Trump is doing is what we voted for. There's no surprise on the tariffs. There's no surprise on Doge. There's no surprise on anything he's doing, really. And Victor Davis Hanson's position is if Trump does all this while staying on the high road, he will be enormously successful. And so I don't know if I've got his column in my head and maybe that's why this isn't my... And now look, it's not the end of the world. It's not Armageddon. It's not... Horrific. You've seen it by now. There's Trump in the white papal robes with a giant cross around his neck and that huge hat that popes and cardinals wear. He's all in white and he's sticking up his index finger, depicted as the pope. And, of course, the Trump critics have lost their minds. Don't worry, I'm not losing my mind over it. As a former Catholic, I don't really have, I'm not going to get into the whole drama of the Catholic Church. There are Catholics who didn't mind this meme. There are non-Catholics who are livid about it. And look, you know the Trump haters are just using it as an excuse to batter Trump with. That's all it is. They don't care. They don't care about the Catholic Church. They don't care about the papacy. They don't care about any of it. They just want to find another reason to jump on Trump. And so, knowing that, I'm reluctant to share with you my heartfelt reaction that I don't love this. that yeah, it does feel somewhat disrespectful. Yeah, if the Democrats did it, we wouldn't like it. When Gretchen Whitmer was mocking the Catholic Church and pretending to hand out the Eucharist to somebody in some social justice aspect, I don't even remember what the issue was, I didn't like it. I'm old enough to remember Sinead O'Connor ripping up a picture of the Pope on Saturday Night Live. And it was disrespectful then, and it was sacrilegious then. Again, I'm not a Catholic, but I know plenty of people who are, who I assume were offended. And I just wonder what the point is sometimes. You know, the argument is we've got to own the libs. We've got to troll them. We've got to get under their skin. We've got to offend them. And sometimes, and I'm ready to get my hat handed to me here, you go ahead and give me a call and you can have at it with me, 800-655-MIKE. I don't mind. I'm not going to even argue with you. Because if you're disappointed in me, I accept that. Because I don't want to pile on. My gosh, I just looked through the New York Times from yesterday. The whole opinion section was all the star columnists taking pot shots at Donald Trump. Every one of the columnists. It was like, you have Adam. No, then I want to have Adam. It was hysterical. 60 Minutes last night. Oh, he's destroying democracy. The world is coming to an end. The country's on fire. And they're all freaking out. Because Trump is simply fulfilling his campaign promises. I understand it's a joke. You're kidding around. You're trolling. They also apparently posted a meme of him as a Star Wars character with a lightsaber and a big buff muscular body. Like one of the characters from Star Wars, I guess. Okay, ha ha ha. But you get into the Pope, or you get into a pastor or a rabbi, you get into spiritual leaders, you get into the leader of a church, and a guy, you know, let's face it, how many days ago did Francis die? And they're getting ready to begin this conclave. It's not my favorite thing. I kind of wish... he would stick, the White House would stick to always try to take the high road. You want to know the ultimate victory, the ultimate troll, the ultimate own of the other side? He won. He's the president. He's getting to do all these things, whether it's reopening Alcatraz or slapping China with tariffs. He's getting to do all of this. That's the ultimate victory. You know, Trump was asked during the campaign, are you going to be exercising vengeance? He said, victory is going to be my vengeance. Success is going to be my vengeance. Is posting a picture of Trump depicted as the Pope part of that success? I don't think it's necessary. And I debated whether even to bring it up because, look, the easy way out would be just to avoid it. The easy way out would just be to forget it, move on. There's lots of other things going on. We've got tons of breaking news, and we're going to cover it. But I just wanted to express what was on my heart over the weekend when I saw it. I wanted to express my authentic reaction to it. And again, maybe you don't see it that way or you want to take me to task. I don't care. It's all right. But give me your reaction as well. Victor Davis Hanson's point is a good one. Take the high road while you're doing all of these effective, monumental, epic things, and your success, Mr. President, will be even better. And it will silence the crazies who act like he's not fulfilling his campaign promise and delivering exactly what he said he would deliver. Do we need to go out of the way, our side? Do we need to provoke people on the other side when they've already got their hair on fire? It doesn't help him get done what needs to be done. Now, a lot of people already on the MyPillow text line, Susie in Purple, Georgia, lighten up, Francis. Cradle Catholic and practicing Catholic. Coffee on the keyboard funny. Okay? Here's Pennsylvania. I'm not Catholic, I'm Jewish, and I absolutely hate the Trump Pope. I agree with Victor Davis Hanson. Sometimes I wish Trump would just... STFU. I won't read that for you. But another one here from Ohio. Relax. The picture was just a joke. I get it. I got a pretty good sense of humor. I just think sometimes... There's not really a need to go out of your way to provoke when the ultimate provocation is governance and doing what he's accomplishing. And believe me, I'm thrilled. I am ecstatic. I am quite satisfied with his first 100 days. All right, take me out to the woodshed. I'm ready. 800-655-MIKE. We're in the Relief Factor Studios. This is how I got to start the first Monday in May. I'm going to get yelled at probably, but that's all right. I'm a big boy. I think I can handle it. 800-655-6453. Hope you join us. There's so many messages being hurled at you about how to lose weight, the medications. Do your homework on the medications. The millions and millions being spent on semaglutide. Are you kidding? You want to be addicted to a shot in the belly for the rest of your life? Take a natural approach, not connected to big pharma's bottom line. You can do it with the help of PhD Weight Loss, and I've got a big offer for you today. The first 11 callers who mention Mike. We'll get two free weeks added to their program. When you call their number, I'm going to give you the number in a minute. 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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here's Mike.
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I come into work today with sort of a bit of a heavy heart. I made the mistake of picking up the New York Times at the Charlotte Airport yesterday. I was flying from Savannah to New York, and I had to go through Charlotte. And boy, oh boy, what a mess that is. I don't want to hurt anybody's feelings who live in or near Charlotte, but your airport is like a bomb went off in there. Seen those videos in India of all the people clamoring to get on a train? That's what it feels like at the Charlotte airport. Whoa! It's a mess. Anyway, I had some time to kill, and I grabbed a New York Times, and I'm sitting there with my jaw hanging open, reading column after column of how Trump is destroying. It's like they rounded up all their columnists, Maureen Dowd and David Brooks and Ross Douthat and all the star columnists and just did a huge Never Trump edition. Here's why he's destroying democracy. Here's why he's destroying the media. Oh, he's going to defund PBS. I mean, watching them carry on about PBS and NPR losing a few percentage points of their budget. If they can't survive because they lose, it's not even a predominant amount of money for them. And they're squealing like pigs. They're shrieking to the heavens, all democracies coming to our... We've got to provide NPR to rural West Virginia. My gosh. These aren't serious people, but they are very serious about opposing the Trump administration. And I suppose we knew we were in for that. But between the New York Times... And 60 Minutes last night, evidently they did a whole hit piece on Trump. Not a surprise. The media is... And I just wonder how much... I always wonder, and I ask you this question regularly. Is it all performative? Do they really think that Trump wants to kill them? And you think I'm kidding when I use that term. Jasmine Crockett, whatever you think of her, has emerged as one of the stars of the Democrat Party. I mean, it's a little depressing, but it's true. Here she was on MSNBC. Check this out.
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We need to make sure that the American people are just as enraged as we all should be because this administration is truly trying to kill us, it feels like.
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This administration is truly trying to kill us. Now, if you picked up the New York Times yesterday, you would be shattered. Because it's that bad. And the cover of the opinion section of the New York Times was in a big red page. It was a big red page by design, I can promise you. This is fire alarm, 10-star fire. And listen to the headline on the Sunday Opinions section of the New York Times. Repress dissent, shatter precedence, dismantle oversight, bully the opposition, crush the institutions, seize executive power. The great Scott Jennings took that page and posted it and said, oh, I'm glad the New York Times finally figured out what the Democrats are up to. Because that sounds like the Democrat playbook, doesn't it? Listen to that headline again from the New York Times. Repressed dissent? What do you think they did during the 2016 and 2020 elections? You weren't allowed to say anything that didn't go along with the group think, whether it was the pandemic or election integrity. The Democrats mastered the repression of dissent. Shatter precedents. Oh, let's drudge up some expired misdemeanors, turn them into 34 felonies, and get a dopey New York jury to convict him. Yeah, that's called shattering precedence. Dismantle oversight. The Democrats have railed in favor of that for years and years. Bully the opposition. You think these are nice people on the left? You don't think they bully people? The people they oppose? What do you think it means to destroy somebody's car because you don't like Elon Musk? What do you suppose it is to burn down a building, a fast food joint, because there was a police shooting? What do you think they do? They're masters at bullying the opposition. I mean, all this, this is the Democrat handbook. And yet the New York Times decides we're going to apply this towards Donald Trump. Incidentally, speaking of Jasmine Crockett, let's look at another doozy. Here's a flashback. For some reason, I don't know why this came across my feed. Oh, it's all in her native tongue, right? Ilhan Omar. What? Ilhan Omar, cut 11. Here's Ilhan Omar. This is a clip. talking about needing a government database to track white men. Now, keep in mind, Ilhan Omar, Jasmine Crockett, these are all stars of today's Democrat Party. This is the party of opposition. This is the party, the New York Times and CBS and NBC and ABC, this is what the mainstream media supports.
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I would say our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country. And so if fear was the driving force of policies to keep America safe, Americans safe inside of this country, we should be... profiling, monitoring, and creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men.
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Can you imagine a white politician of any party saying we ought to create a database of black men because of the crimes that black men commit in America? We know statistically, and I hate it, and there's a lot of reasons for it, but statistically, black Americans commit a disproportionate percentage of crime in this country. Think what would happen to a white politician who said we should create a database of black men because they're a threat to security and safety. That'd be their last day on the job. But when you're Ilhan Omar, you got cover. The New York Times won't denounce Ilhan Omar. CBS won't do a hit piece on Ilhan Omar. Ever. But Donald Trump? Here we are. And how bad is the media today? If I told you that CNN went and interviewed the cartel to ask them how they felt about trump declaring the mexican cartels terrorist organizations would you believe me now the answers are in spanish but the question the questions are in english because i know you're sitting there thinking gallagher has flipped his litigate mike has lost his mind there's no way cnn went and interviewed a Mexican cartel member in Mexico to ask them how they felt about Trump declaring them a terrorist organization. Here's the clip.
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This man is talking to us on the condition we hide his identity and location. Can I pull up a chair? He says he produces fentanyl for the Sinaloa cartel. How safe or dangerous is this area to be in?
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I mean, according to the Trump administration, you are a terrorist.
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The cartels have been labeled a foreign terrorist organization. What do you make of that?
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What's your message to Donald Trump if he's watching this?
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This is where we are. That's today's CNN. A CNN correspondent wanting to know what your message would be to Trump since he's declared you a terrorist organization. Hard to avoid or escape the image of the phrase enemy of the people. So my question to you is a simple one. When Americans who maybe aren't as plugged in as you may be, you and I are pretty connected. We're watching, we're following these stories, we're breaking it all down. But to people who aren't, who pick up a paper at the Charlotte airport, oh, here's the New York Times, I think I'll read the New York Times while I'm waiting for my next flight. And you read this, I mean, I would think normal people who aren't that connected would be in utter despair, absolute despair, over what the Times believes is the condition of America under Donald Trump. So my question to you is this, do they really believe it, or is it all performative? Is it all fake? Is it all for effect? Do you think when 60 Minutes does a whole segment and a whole show on Trump destroying democracy and ruining this country, we're a five-alarm fire right now, do they really see it that way? Or are they just a loyal opposition and they think they've got to say it? This question haunts me. Because I just don't know. Maybe you do. 800-655-MIKE. Welcome in. We had a great event Thursday and Friday in Savannah, the Job Creators Network Summit and Gala. I'm so thankful to Alfredo Ortiz and Elaine Parker, and congratulations to a... A great event. Met a lot of members of our audience who went to the event as a result of our announcements. So many thanks to everybody who came up to say hi to me in Savannah. Savannah is a beautiful city. My gosh, I can't get enough of that place. So thanks to everybody at the Job Creators Network. Thanks, too, to Carl Jackson for guest hosting for me on Friday. Let's dive in today here on a Monday. 800-655-MIKE. issue of their opinion section to trump destroying the country do they believe it is it real or is it inauthentic 800-655-6453 i hope you join us I saw this headline that CNN actually sat down with the cartels to ask how they feel about trellises and being labeled terrorists. And I know that the enemy of the people phrase is harsh. What other conclusion can you reach when you see something like that? Mike's in Kentucky. Hello, Mike. Good morning. Hi.
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God bless you. I think... All those people that you're talking about, and I think a lot of other Americans feel the same way, they're a propaganda arm of the swamp. They're paid to do that. They do it endlessly, relentlessly. They don't care.
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Yeah, the ends justify the means. Whatever it takes to stop him, whatever it takes to get whatever. I mean, these are like the tabloids back in the day, like somebody just texted me. Fake news sells copies. Doom and gloom is much more interesting and profitable. Here's somebody else, Sarasota, Florida. It's anything for attention. Trump is controlling the narrative. The Dems think politics is just about popularity. They can't reveal their own policies, so their only option is to become more like social medias. Attention whores. Can you imagine saying, let's go interview the cartel and see how they feel about Trump labeling them terrorists? Fred's in Chicago. Hey, Fred. Hey, how you doing, Mike?
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Good, how are you? Good, good. I watched the whole show. And just to be fair, I mean, the reporter actually went with the Mexican army and showing how effective they were at burning that stuff down. And, of course, they're going to go over to the cartels and say, hey, what's going on? And the cartel dude actually said he got respect for Trump. I mean, Trump was doing a really good job cutting down on their profits and was like, hey, we've got to be really careful, but he's doing a real good job. He's actually giving respect. I understand.
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He's like, why would you point out the cartel? You're not really defending. You're not really defending. Are you actually defending CNN sitting down with our cartels and asking a cartel drug lord what he thinks about Trump's policies?
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We did in Vietnam, too. We did both sides. But the point is, Both sides. I'll say this. Everyone watch the whole program.
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No thanks.
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Mike, please.
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I think I'd rather watch paint dry. You want me to watch the whole interview with the CNN reporter asking the cartel, why didn't she ask him, were your feelings hurt when Trump labeled you a terrorist? Fred, come on. Dude, spin it all you want.
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Watch the show. Both sides.
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No thanks. You watch it. You watch it. You watch CNN. You ever watch Fox News? Of course I do. Oh, okay. All right.
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Do you like CNN? The whole story, man.
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Do you like CNN? Are you a big fan of CNN, Fred?
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Are you kidding me? I'm just talking about the program, man. You cut it off in half, man.
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I didn't cut it off anything in half. I played a clip of a reporter from CNN asking the cartel, how do you feel about Trump's policies?
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Exactly. The clip. The whole program.
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Yeah, that's it. That's it, Fred. You go defend it. I'd rather not. I'd rather not.
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You clip it. You clip it.
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Uh-huh. Yeah, that's right. It's out of context, right, Fred? I get it. It's out of context, right, Fred?
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Mike, I get it.
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But I think what the president is doing, it is a fundamental attack on our Constitution, on the foundation of this country. People need to understand and remember there is only one profession that is protected in the Constitution, and it is the free press. It is the press. And why? Because the founders understood that the survival of a democracy depends on an informed citizenry. And the citizenry can only be informed by a press that can report and do report on the affairs of the republic free and unfettered.
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Now, he would never defend the taxpayer funding of, oh, I don't know, townhall.com, Hot Air, the Mike Gallagher show, Fox News. He thinks these hysterics, and that's what they are, they're just hysterics, trying to ignite a sense of fury in the American people. And they believe that the only point of view that Americans are entitled to receive and be subsidized to some degree by the taxpayer is a leftist point of view. It's comical. It's actually worthy of satire. Here's David Brooks. Now check out David Brooks, the New York Times Trump hater. Check out what he said. Here's a flashback of David Brooks advocating... for people to take to the streets and protest Donald Trump. Cut 8.
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There are a lot of people who are appalled by what the administration is doing. And there will be times for civil disobedience. And to me, let's say she did escort this guy out the door. If federal enforcement agencies come to your courtroom and you help a guy escape... That is two things. One, it strikes me as maybe something illegal, but it also strikes me as something heroic. And so you can both think that she shouldn't have legally done this and that morally protecting somebody against or maybe not even in this case, but in other cases, frankly, a predatory enforcement agency.
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That's what that's a guy who says I'm neutral. That's a guy who says I'm not biased. That's a guy who, here's cut seven. Here he is, you just heard that, right? You heard what he said, we should take to the streets and protest the President of the United States. Now, if we said that about Obama, if we said that about anybody else, they would lose their minds. But he says they're not biased. He said, oh, they're not biased at all. They're just fine. This is the hypocrisy of the left and the hypocrisy of people that are that upset about the defunding of NPR or PBS. Look, there's no defunding when it comes to fruits and vegetables in your system, the balance of nature way. I had a chance to hang out today with Dr. Douglas Howard. He's got a new product, Dr. Fido's. He's partnering with another company. They're going to bring this dog powder. But look, you need fruits and vegetables in your own system. called Balance of Nature. Balance of Nature's advanced vacuum cold process involves freeze-drying the fruits and veggies into a fine powder, retaining up to 93% of their nutritional value compared to others' methods, who are lucky to salvage as little as 30%. Balance of Nature packs a nutritional punch. Take it every day. And Dr. Howard was advising me, look, Mike, you love the way the three little red, three little green capsules, what they're doing to your body? Take more when you're feeling a little under the weather. Call Balance of Nature today at 800-246-8751. Use the discount code MikeG. 35% off plus free shipping and their money back guarantee. 800-246-8751 or go to balanceofnature.com. Mike Gallagher.
