The conversation takes an entertaining detour as John and Andy share their light-hearted views on opera and music theater, before diving into reflections on the rapid evolution of technology. A spirited exchange about the state of the Colorado GOP rounds out the episode, with the hosts offering their candid thoughts on current political dynamics and the emergence of various PACs within the political landscape.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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All right, happy Tuesday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes, and it's a wet Tuesday.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is. Actually, it's wonderful for my lawn. My lawn, I think I could hear it applauding as I drove away.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, if you are into green grass, yes, you like this kind of weather. And, you know, it doesn't last around here very long. No, it doesn't. A day or two of this is fine.
SPEAKER 10 :
But you know what's going to be neat, John? I guarantee you this. Next week, as you drive around the front range, you're going to see so much green. Yep. Where you see a lot of brown.
SPEAKER 08 :
And it's really cool seeing that. Foothills, people's lawns that normally don't water will be green. Yeah, I don't like them. Everybody, you know, I don't either.
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I just want you to know, folks, if you don't water your lawn, if you don't... Public enemy number one. If you don't care for your lawn... Like maybe deal with a weed now and then and water it and mow it. I flat out do not like you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Public enemy number one. Yes. And by the way, there's some cities and municipalities that aren't much better at that, Andy, which is, in my opinion, there's no excuse.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, that always blows my mind, especially or when you go to like a mall. Right. Right. These malls generally have beautiful lawns, beautiful flowers.
SPEAKER 08 :
You would hope so.
SPEAKER 10 :
Every now and then they let it go and you're like, what's going on here?
SPEAKER 08 :
Cheapskates. Is that what it is? Yeah, literally.
SPEAKER 10 :
Has your company ever handled, you know, like for malls or whatever?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they're too cheap.
SPEAKER 10 :
They're too cheap.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they're too cheap. Literally, they're too cheap.
SPEAKER 10 :
So it's all illegal labor. That's all they're going to pay for.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, it's just they cut back on everything so much that that's why things start to look that way because, you know, and I guess their defense a little bit today, it wasn't this way years and years ago, and at one time it wasn't so bad. But now they struggle so much to keep tenants because malls are struggling and so on that they try to cut their expenses as much as they can.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, that's a good point, though. Retail has gone through hell.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
It really has.
SPEAKER 08 :
Although you knew it was coming.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, yeah, you knew it was coming with all the online shopping. I mean, my goodness. And then, of course, COVID. Right. That blew everything up. But that is no excuse for our governor. No. Forcing all these restaurants and retail outlets to have to cut in half their floor usage. Agree. And spread everything out. That, I'm telling you what, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Safety, Andy. Safety.
SPEAKER 10 :
No. That buried more businesses, honestly, than masks or anything else.
SPEAKER 08 :
But it's safety first, Andy. Jeez. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they're out of jobs. Safety first. You've got whole families who have lost businesses.
SPEAKER 08 :
Safety first. Like we've said many times on this program, one of the first times in, well, the first time in history I can remember that I'd ever seen American people give up freedom for safety.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know, and you had people like us screaming from the hilltops, or in this case, the rooftop, you know, you're not getting any safer. You're fine. It's getting worse. We're not taking any shots. We're not wearing masks, and we're healthy as can be. Right. But, I mean, when you had people, if you remember back then, remember half as many tables in a restaurant?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, I know. It was ridiculous, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
How are you going to make the payments? How are you going to do anything?
SPEAKER 08 :
Some didn't, Andy. No, a lot didn't. Some didn't. A lot of them just flat out had to close up. And some really good ones, too. Yeah. I miss some of those restaurants. You're right. I agree wholeheartedly. Okay. All right. Impossible question yesterday. was who wrote Critique of Pure Reason that was Kant, and that's spelled with a K. Immanuel. You would think that Critique of Pure Reason and a guy named Kant.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's Kant, but still.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Kant. That's good. I like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Get that? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You should put an apostrophe in there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Anyways. Okay. Today's possible question. Okay. Who composed the opera Don Giovanni?
SPEAKER 10 :
Don Giovanni. Oh.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not an opera guy, so I couldn't tell you. You guys know my feeling on all that. I don't watch musicals or anything, nor do I go to the opera.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'll be honest. I really don't like operas. I really don't. Boring.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there's no speaking, and at least musicals are mostly speaking. And you had to really go home and watch the grass grow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's more enjoyable.
SPEAKER 10 :
I'm not an opera fan.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. I mean, some are. More power to you. And if you're listening and you're one of those, you know, great. You'll love you. I mean, it takes all kind. I'm just not one of you. Okay. I'd rather go to a drag race or something like that as the opera.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, there are some musicals that are great.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, there's not.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, Grease. Come on.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. You didn't like Grease? The movie, yeah. You are not an American. I'm just not. For me, somebody says, oh, best things ever. Go to New York, go to Broadway. I can't think of anything more boring in my life to go do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I would have to be dragged in there in chains.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'd want to know where the best pizza place is instead.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Send me there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I would not. New York pizza. That's what I want to get. Go send me there, Ed. Do not put me in Broadway.
SPEAKER 08 :
I could spend the evening in a pizza joint versus there. Versus Broadway.
SPEAKER 10 :
First of all, I wouldn't enjoy the events. And secondly, John, what about the parking? What about the crowds? What about everything and the cost? How is this fun? Is it just because to a number of people it's the event?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's hooty-tooty. You know, hoity-toity kind of stuff. Hoity-toity. Yeah, you know. Isn't it, Charlie? It's one of those hoity-toity things to go do. He's in there laughing at us. Hooty-tooty, that's what I call it. But, you know, teach his own.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, whichever. I don't want to go.
SPEAKER 08 :
How's that? Yeah, it's a highfalutin kind of a thing that I think people just put on their bucket list and go do. And, I mean, some are really into it. I understand that, Andy. Some people really get into that. That's great. God bless you.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, I actually majored in music theater. Really? For a while, yeah. I'm sorry. Hey, I enjoyed the stage. I was actually pretty good. Well, good for you. Yeah, back in the day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good for you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, but no, I have no interest. Yeah. Was I a thespian? Yes, I was. I starred in a number of plays.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, wait a minute. Is thespian, is that a neutral lesbian? Actor. Yeah, sure. Like a shim?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I guess I'm like a lesbian since I'm attracted to the female half of the race.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, because I'm pretty ignorant. What is a thespian? Actor. An actor. A theater person. To me, it sounded like a neutral lesbian.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure it would.
SPEAKER 08 :
Charlie said a lesbian with a lisp.
SPEAKER 10 :
I've never met one with a lisp.
SPEAKER 08 :
I wouldn't know if they were or weren't.
SPEAKER 10 :
Most lesbians really do enunciate well, John. Do they drive Subarus? Some. Yeah. There's a few.
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God. Country. Reason.
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Now back to John Rush. And Charlie said that's in honor of you.
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Yes.
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There you go.
SPEAKER 10 :
I brought the house down as a senior singing this song. Back in the day, John. Back in the day. Boy, does that tell you... Back in the good old days, Andy. By the way, does that tell you how old I am?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, it does.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah? That's an old song.
SPEAKER 08 :
Andy and I were talking about that before we came on air today. You know, the good old days. Yeah, we were talking about microfiche and things like that because I was talking about some of that yesterday. Yeah, no, those weren't so good.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I think if you go back any further than, say, a week ago, I probably don't like the tech.
SPEAKER 08 :
Um... It has changed a lot.
SPEAKER 10 :
Although I do hate every update on my phone.
SPEAKER 08 :
It can get a little cumbersome.
SPEAKER 10 :
My wife and I, we just got in. Don't hate us. We have these droids. Yeah, I know. You're a greenie.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's all right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Galaxy, whatever.
SPEAKER 08 :
You and Charlie.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Well, greenie. Yeah, you're a greenie. What's green about them?
SPEAKER 08 :
They're just a phone. No, because when I talk to you, it's green. When I talk to an iPhone user, it's blue. So you two are greenies. Your text messages back and forth to me are green. So either way, we're Democrats, green or blue. Yeah, so when I text an iPhone user, it's blue. It's green, blue. These phone companies are evil. Okay, wait a minute. You did not know that? You didn't know that's where the nickname Greenie comes from?
SPEAKER 10 :
Dude, I was raised in an environmentalist family. What do you think I think?
SPEAKER 08 :
You thought Greeny was that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I've never heard Greeny referred to with phones. This is the first time. Oh, okay. You've ushered me into a whole new world here.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I learned what a thespian is, so I guess we're even.
SPEAKER 10 :
Now you know. Well, on our Samsung phones, anyway, we just got updates. My wife and I did in the last week.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And immediately, our phones now drain. Their battery drains at two to three times the rate. Not a good update, then. No kidding. There are no good updates.
SPEAKER 08 :
I hate their updates. Not a good update.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. All right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Speaking of updates.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
We have something we were going to talk about today. We've got time so we can roll into this. There's so many. And this one, I mean, because we've been laughing and kind of starting off joking and having a good time, I suppose we could continue on because this next topic that we're going to talk about, Andy. Yes. Is laughable all in and of itself. Yes. And that is some of the things that are being formed around the Colorado GOP right now. And I use Colorado GOP loosely because I am a member of the Colorado GOP here in Colorado. But for some of these individuals that are making some of these quote-unquote PACs or not-for-profits or whatever you want to call them, I frankly do not want to be associated with them in any way, shape, or form. form or otherwise andy that includes the eric grossman doge committee that they're thinking they're going to be very similar and funny they're even using the same logo and so on as doge when it's about as far from that yeah did they get permission on that i have no idea no i highly doubt it colorado doge they have absolutely none of the resources to do anything that doge does or skill set
SPEAKER 10 :
Or none of the skill set. They're just grifting. These are people who were involved with the past leadership of the party, and now they're grifting in any way they can. I think the funnier one has to be Team Eimer.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so I will let you, you know, given that you brought us into that one, and I've got a full email here talking about different things along those lines. Sure. Go ahead. Explain what Team Eimer actually is.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, all these grifts are the same. And by the way, Rhino Watch has been doing the same. They're all trying to raise money because now they don't have their clutches into the state party, okay? And here's this one. This is from Team Eimer, and this is, I guess, Weston and Laurel Eimer, his mom. Okay, so it says, I love when they call me friend. The Colorado GOP is silent. The RNC is silent. The grand old party is failing us all. Tomorrow is May 1st, a few days ago. And that means that 2026 midterm races are in full swing. No, they aren't. No, 10 years started yet. Yeah, we're nowhere close. Our majorities in the U.S. House and the U.S. Senate are at risk if we do not activate, engage, and turn on our voters to secure our majorities. Okay, full stop. First of all, Imers, had we gone with the people that your leadership recommended in the last... in their endorsements, we would have lost the House. Nationally. Nationally.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, not locally, nationally.
SPEAKER 10 :
We would have lost the House nationally had we gone with your endorsements. Okay? And now you guys are telling us that you're going to help us, what, secure majorities? How? How? You guys also endorsed 18 candidates in contested elections here in Colorado. You lost 14 by landslides. And then you guys went on, if we had gone the way that you wanted, we would have lost three House seats. Therefore, Trump would now have a Democrat House. So just thought I'd say that. Okay, keep continuing on. In Colorado, we have seen disastrous policies like SB003 that will strip the ability to obtain firearms from law-abiding citizens. I agree, by the way. As well as laws that endanger parental rights and policies that encourage the transing of our youth. I'm not even going to comment on that. During all of this, the party has been silent. Really? How? Even going so far as to say they are not lobbyists and cannot engage in policy activism. Okay, first... First of all, that's a true statement. They can't. Right. They are not lobbyists. This is actually true. They can't engage in actual activism. Can they speak out? Yes. And they have many times.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
I have seen statements from Britta Horne. I've seen statements from Daryl Phelan. I've seen statements from multiple members who are working together with the state party coming against all these things. What are they talking about? They're just lying.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Andy, it's... Let me see if I can be somewhat nice because this stuff really irritates me because you're basically trying to collect money off of things that are totally untrue, are complete falsehoods. They are not true whatsoever, and you're grifting around trying to collect money off of that. It's really, Andy, you said we kind of started the show laughing. This stuff actually angers me. Because you're going to, and this is why. Yeah, go ahead. You're now going to take money from some individuals that have bought into your lies. And you're now going to take that money as your own pack or your own organization. And I'll just say it straight up. Waste that money on things that will have no effect at the end of the day on actually getting real people elected either nationally or in the state of Colorado. It's like flushing money down the toilet.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. I mean, all I know so far, I don't know what parts of this are true or false, except for the fact that they say, you know, go with them. And that way we can win majorities when they recommended people who would have lost us the majority. Here they quote Daryl Phelan, who is the new vice chair. And he says, the officers of the Colorado Republican Party are not registered lobbyists under Colorado law and therefore cannot engage in direct lobbying activities. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
And then, which really quick for everybody listening, as leaders of the party, and I think Steve House, if he were with us today, would agree with what you and I, Andy, right now are talking about. The reality is that is not the proper role of the leadership in the party to do that on either side of the aisle. If you want to go down and lobby, then hire a lobbyist. Go figure out how you want to make that happen. Yes, you can talk to your own constituents, which they are. Yes, you can talk to your own elected leaders, which they are. But at the end of the day, no, you can't go down to Capitol Hill and act like a lobbyist. Right. They can't act as a lobbyist. And I'll go one step further for all of you listening, which you may or may not agree with me on this. I don't even feel like it's the job of the chair or the vice chair, definitely not the job of the treasurer, which that's a whole other conversation we might get into today. But it's not the job of the chair or the vice chair to even go down in front of the Capitol and speak, by the way. It is their job to organize individuals to go out and win elections, to raise money, to enable those people to do so. And the last thing I want them doing, by the way, personally as a Colorado Republican, is down at the Statehouse testifying against anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. They're not candidates, okay? They are running the machine. Correct. Their job is to run the machine.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not testify, Andy.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, not to do any of that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. It is not their job. It is not the proper role of what they're here to do.
SPEAKER 10 :
And by the way, we have people who do all those things, and they're wonderful people. I applaud them, and that's great. Well, here, this is also quoting from the Imers. Standing up for the Second Amendment is not lobbying. Standing up for parental rights is not lobbying. Standing up for our basic civil rights is not lobbying. My answer to that is, you're right. Those things are not lobbying. And that is why Britta Horne has come out and spoken on those things directly. She has stood up for the Second Amendment. She has stood up for parental rights. What are you talking about? You're acting like they're not doing anything. And by the way, first of all, the state party is speaking out on these things. Okay. Secondly, John, honestly, it doesn't make any difference if they do. Okay. KBB, this was an issue I had with KBB. She would put out these statements and proclamations on various issues. Which one of those statements accomplished anything? None. None. Then Dave Williams came along, and it was statement, statement, statement, him and Hope Scheppelman, and they would do statement, statement, statement. And by the way, I pretty much agreed with all their statements just as you did.
SPEAKER 08 :
We agreed. But at the end of the day, what are they changing?
SPEAKER 10 :
What did they achieve?
SPEAKER 08 :
Nothing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Nothing. Why? Because you only achieve by winning and getting votes down at the...
SPEAKER 08 :
Downtown. Let me go back to that, Andy, because I knew we were going to get to this. Down at the Capitol. I was talking to a client of mine earlier today talking about changing Colorado and so on. So for those of you listening, this is how lopsided things are here in Colorado and where I want my party leaders working on how do we win elections, not this nonsense that the Imers are talking about, by the way. Currently, right now, we have, of course, this is the Colorado General Assembly. We have 100 seats, 35 senators, 65 representatives. Out of the 35 senators, it's 23 Democrats, 12 Republicans. Yeah. So if you think about having any seat at the table, folks, you take the difference between 23 and 12, which is 11, meaning we need to win roughly six senatorial seats and keep the existing 12 that we have coming up. Right. Correct. In 2026. Right. Along with the continued inflow of blue state voters. Let me go one step further. That's the Senate. All right. The House of Representatives in the state, it's even worse. We have 43 Democrats, 22 Republicans, meaning, again, take the difference between those two. We've got to go out and and again, Andy, we need to elect not only the continual continue to have the 22 that we already have, but to have any kind of majority. We need an additional what? 13, 14 seats. One. So all together, I think I figured out today, we need to win 25 elections in Colorado, swing them R, and keep the existing R's we have to even have a seat at the table.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, in both of those houses, it is almost two to one, Democrat to Republican. Okay, this is ridiculous.
SPEAKER 08 :
But yet, Andy, I thought the last administration, the Davidians did a bang-up job of switching this around.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they did not, John. And once again, as I've shown with the numbers, I won't go through it again, but as I've shown with the numbers countless times, the Davidians steered us to losing 60% of Trump's red wave. That is the result that they got for us, okay? Now, really quick here. I'm not going to read the rest. I just want to read this sentence. They go... Standing up to the radical left is a fundamental principle of the Republican Party. Yeah. Okay. We all do that. You and I do that daily. Yeah. Everybody does that. Meanwhile, the RNC is enabling our globalist uniparty leadership and is refusing to stand up to them. Okay, wait a minute. Time out. How is the RNC enabling globalism and uniparty leadership in Colorado? What is the RNC doing that is in any way, shape, or form enabling these things? Nothing. Look, I got news for you, Imers. Dear Weston, dear Laurel, no offense to you, but I'm speaking to everybody in the Davidian group, okay? Okay? Here is why the globalists and the uniparty people are in charge in Colorado. They have more voters, way more voters. They moved in by the millions from places like California and New York and Illinois. They overwhelmed us. There are more of them. That is why they're in charge. They're not in charge because Britta Horne hasn't made a statement somewhere or isn't marching at the Capitol steps on something. They have more voters. Right, right. I mean, how moronic is this? At the end of this, then they beg for money. Like they're going to fix this all.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're going to fix it all. Again, nationally, which the RNC is, how could a party that's now in support of Trump and tariffs, and you and I have talked about this, we even talked about this a little bit on Friday, given the fact that Trump is for the national United States of America, not the global United States of America. He's about as anti-globalistic, anti-globalism, as you could possibly be. So how is the RNC now, given the fact that technically Trump's in charge, how could the RNC, Andy, be full of globalists?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, they say here that they are, the Imers, that they are pro-Trump, okay? By the way, I've never had anything against the Imers. I've never really thought about the Imers, except that they have embraced the Davidian thing. You know, they're the Dave people, okay? Fine. You want to be that? You want to wrap yourself in that? You go ahead, whatever, okay? But, John... Trump is anti-globalist. The RNC is wildly supportive of Donald Trump. Which means they're anti-globalist. Right. They are not globalists. You can always pick out a few Republicans nationwide, usually ones that are in deep purple districts who have to speak. They've got to walk that walk. That's right. I get that. You can always pick out a few. It's nationwide. But overall, the Republican Party right now is extremely anti-globalist. And I love it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, when we come back, I'm going to give my thoughts on where I feel like this particular faction of the party is headed. And it mirrors a lot of what I grew up with in my upbringing. And I'll explain how that correlation is as soon as I come back. That should be fun. Sound like a plan. We'll be right back. Up next, we have veteran windows and doors. And on a day like today where you're thinking, man, I wish things were a little bit cooler. I might even have a window that's got a leak in it. Whatever the case may be, give Dave a call today. Veteran windows and doors. Find him at klzradio.com.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's afternoon rush, KLZ 560. You know, John, really quick here before you jump in. You're fine. Take your time. I don't like grifters to begin with.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know my feeling on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
These people who never seem to produce anything in life, and all they do is jump from political leader to political leader. The ones who drive me the most nuts are the MAGA ones. I'm MAGA. I love MAGA. I have never raised a dime off of MAGA. I have never raised a dime off of Donald Trump's name. But these people and the Imers, they do it several times in their thing. Dave Williams did it constantly. What they do. Dave tried to, he positioned himself as the Colorado Trump.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, running on his coattails.
SPEAKER 10 :
He had nothing in common with Trump. Trump creates a big tent. Dave, his entire goal was to shrink the tent and to push out anybody. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Cut it in half.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. Rhino hunt. Okay. And these people, they constantly try to say they are with Trump. They are with Trump. They are with Trump. They are with Trump. Here's the problem. All the people who are against them are also with Trump. Eli Bremmer campaigned for Trump. Todd Watkins, who I've had on here. Todd Watkins is a huge Trump person. The people who led the push to get rid of Dave Williams are all pro-Trump. And yet, these people... Yet they're being labeled anti-Trump. Yeah, and I guess, let me just end with this. The Davidians here in Colorado constantly try to grift and raise money off Trump's name when they have produced absolutely not one single shred of what Donald Trump has produced. And it drives me crazy. It's like, people, he is Donald Trump for a reason, and you're not. You haven't done anything but fail.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which you just really, you didn't know you were going to do this, but you really just helped solidify what I was going to compare what they're doing to with what I grew up with. Well, I'm glad to lead in. Go ahead. You literally set the stage for that perfectly because the comparison I see in that particular faction of the party right now here in the Colorado GOP. And by the way, there's a few of these in other states as well, but it's really bad here in Colorado. In fact, I think we've started to attract more of them. We've had people move to Colorado, I think purposely even to be a part of that particular faction, Andy. I think you've seen that happen. Yeesh. I'm sorry to say, but I think you've seen that happen. Awful, isn't it? So when I grew up, and yes, I grew up in, and some of you have heard my story, but I grew up in a very legalistic end of an independent Baptist church, and fortunately, even with all of that weirdness and things that were going on at the time, I still ended up, you know, quote-unquote, turning out okay and still have a love for the Lord and follow Him and so on, where a lot of the kids and folks that I grew up with, frankly, turned completely different. the other direction and went the other way, partially because of, I think, the way they grew up, which I know your wife is very similar to my background.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and my wife's a lot like you. She's the one in her family who, I'll just say, stayed on that track.
SPEAKER 08 :
Stayed on course.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Now, here's the comparison. The way I grew up was because everything was so black and white that Legalistic, if you would. So in other words, you got to do this. You got to do that. Much like the Davidians, you can't do this or you're a rhino. If you do that, you're a rhino. You can't be for this particular thing or you're a rhino. If you're for that candidate, you're a rhino. It doesn't matter whether we want to win or not, Andy, at the end of the day. It's just because you're X, you're a rhino.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and it's not even what your principles and beliefs are. It's your allegiances. That's right. If you like this person, you're a rhino. If you appreciate anything that that person said, you're a rhino, you get the idea.
SPEAKER 08 :
Much like when I was a kid growing up, if you associated with even other folk from other type of non-independent Baptist churches... That was like total heresy, Andy. You are not allowed to even associate or hang out with people that weren't in your own little, quote unquote, clique, if you would. Much like the Davidians are. It's so similar, Andy. It's scary.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, they hate anyone outside the cult.
SPEAKER 08 :
Anybody outside of that group they do not like, do not get along with. Now, I'll go one step further and say that even the way that the, in the case of the church, the way the plan of salvation was presented versus the way that the Davidian group wants to try to win elections, it's exactly the same, Andy. I'm going to just thump you over the head with the Bible as many times as I possibly can, and by George, you're going to get saved because I'm going to just thump it into you. You heard the word. That's right. It's no different than these people trying to get their candidates elected. Well, you know what? They're principled. They're true conservatives. They're not a rhino. They're the one you ought to be voting for. Doesn't matter whether the market doesn't like them, Andy. At the end of the day, that's the guy you have to vote for. Right. Much like the gospel was presented going door to door on Thursday night visitation where you'd open the door and literally say, Andy, do you know if you died tonight where you're going? That's literally the spiel that would happen on Thursday night visitation. The door would open, the guy or gal would come to the door, and you'd literally ask, can I ask you a question? If you died tonight, do you know where you're going? I'm not joking. That's how the conversation. So it's so eerily similar. And I got to believe that part of this is because some of even what I grew up with in my background has somehow infiltrated some of that thinking that the Davidians have. It has.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. That's why I'm so against it, Andy. I'm going to give you two words. Lauren Boebert. Here's another thing about cults, okay? The moment anybody in the cult dares, or anybody who is, let's put it, I don't really think Lauren was in it, but who is associated with it, okay? Because they glommed onto her like they glommed onto Trump. Correct. And by the way, Trump has nothing to do with them. You know, he endorsed Dave back in the day before Dave came. Before everyone knew who he was. Yeah, before he knew what Dave was like, and then Trump never said another word about Dave once it became clear. Well, Lauren signed on to one letter. That said, you know, okay, we got to move on from Dave Williams. This is a problem. She signed on with our other three House members here. And what did Rhino watch? They're the voice piece for the Davidians. What did they do to her? Crucified her, literally. They crucified her in print. Yeah. And I mean it was grotesque. Oh, it's awful, Andy. It's the usual Mark Hampton type of just raging. Grotesque nonsense. Grotesque, bullying, raging, ugly speech.
SPEAKER 08 :
They basically called her a prostitute.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's basically what they said.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Yeah. They talked about her appearance and all this kind of stuff. And it was grotesque, right? That is what they do. We're talking about people, John, who a week earlier were praising her to the hills. Right. This is how they are. That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's what I grew up with, Andy. It's no different other than the switch has been flipped from the religious side to the political side. I guess that's why personally I've been so against this for so long now. I'm sure your wife can relate to what I'm talking about along those lines because she can see it firsthand just like I do. And it's so eerily similar to what I grew up with that it's just icky. Right. I don't know how else to say it. It's just ick. John, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, you got me laughing in the car, John. With? What you were saying about your church, the same thing happened to me as I got very disillusioned as a Catholic and kind of walked away from all of it and then had to find my way back.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know?
SPEAKER 08 :
You're not the only one.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, there's a lot of people out there, and you just pray for them that had walked away from whatever it was, because, you know, if you weren't baptized and had all your sacraments Catholic, and went to confession once a week, you weren't going to heaven.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. I grew up very similar to that, John, only on the non-Catholic side. Charlie can relate to this, because he was very similar growing up as well, and it was very— there's a lot of folks listening that probably feel the same way and understand that fully.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can I say something really quick from the left?
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 10 :
I grew up with the same thing only on the left in the environmentalist Marxist movement. If you strayed outside of that, the hate that would come your way, just look at Tulsi.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, good point. Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they hate her more than anything. And she never changed. It was those people left her behind.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and again, I think what happens even for politicians, John, like Tulsi or even RFK Jr., where yes, they are still in a lot of ways have their liberal roots and so on, and I'm not saying that they're any way, shape, or form like we are as conservatives, although what happens is when your own people start chasing you off, pretty soon you start thinking, hmm, why am I in that particular group of individuals when all they're doing is chasing me off or being rational in my thought process?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and then you're also... saying, where do I go from here? And on the religious side, it takes you a while to work your way back. Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I would just dare you. I would dare you to tell any of the, even if you were raised by the environmentalist left, I would dare you to tell any of them either that the polar ice cap is increasing at the South Pole right now or that the water levels are exactly the same at the Statue of Liberty that they've been since we got the Statue of Liberty. Absolutely. You tell them that. And let's say you've been one of them the entire time, but you say, well, you know, but we should probably keep this in mind. It'll be instant hate, rage. And that is exactly the thing we've been seeing from the Davidians here in Colorado. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the best one is Elon Musk. They loved him. Oh, good point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now they burn his cars. Great point. Great point, John.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know, I saw a meme online. This guy said, I go around to liberals. liberal rallies and put Trump stickers on the car and watch them destroy each other's car.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's funny. That's a pretty good meme. And really quick, John, I want people to really understand the correlation because to me politically it's very much the same correlation. And my point is because of the radicalization of that faction of the party and the fact that it's very much the way I grew up with spiritually speaking, religiously speaking, the reality is they're going to run more people off that really could help the party move forward and really get good, solid candidates out and about and really get people elected. They do more damage than they do good because of their thought process.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it was the same way in the churches we grew up in. That's right. That's my point. They believed that they were doing so good that they couldn't be wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the reality is they were running people off every single week, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, can I give one more really quick here? Can I give one more thing in common between those churches you grew up in and groups like the Davidians? Yes. They both shrink.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, that's very true. Yeah. Eventually, John, and you know this as well. People don't want to be part of it. be a little bit different because it's a much larger structure but the independent side of what i grew up in as time went by eventually you know you start to andy's point you you kind of peak you have this it's kind of like the tea party even you get this big movement going on all sorts of people join it's this big rah-rah thing but then pretty soon the realness of what's really going on the the underbelly starts to surface and pretty soon you start realizing that oh wait a minute There's a lot of weirdo rule and regulation, you know, wackadoodles that are running this thing, and pretty soon it goes from the peak to where it starts dropping and dropping and dropping to where over time it becomes non-existent.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, John, the first time that you have somebody in your group that always accepted you lash out at you when you just think for a moment outside their box, it's a stunning thing. That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. Well, we have a... Me, my brother, and sister have a standing rule, no politics, because my sister and her husband are New York liberals. We'll just go with that.
SPEAKER 08 :
That explains it.
SPEAKER 06 :
And my brother, who also lives in New York, is a hardcore conservative. Because, you know, he works hard. No, but my brother-in-law, who's now retired, was a 45-year... New York Union member, so you know who he was going to be. He worked, you know, construction, but he was in the union. They're all very liberal Democrats. So it's, you know, we just have a family rule, so to keep the peace, no politics. Andy, do you guys have that same rule now that you've come over to the dark side?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we basically don't really engage at all. And look, you know, here's the thing, John. What it became for me, and I won't go deeply into it, was this. I have a wonderful family, as you know. I've said it many times on here. They're great people. However, it came to the point where... The price of admission to interact with them and to be their son or brother in that family was my silence on all things that mattered to me. And after a while, I just said, you know, the price is too high. If I have to always not be me to be in this setting all the time, that's a bit much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which, really quick to close out, John, that's eventually where the Davidians will get to where if you don't believe and do everything the way they want, you will no longer be allowed. The price of admission will become so high that most people won't go anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and then they'll either spin off and start a new party, or in your case, John, I have a question for you. So you went to the church growing up that they featured in the movie Footloose? Basically, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Basically.
SPEAKER 06 :
You guys have a great rest of the day. You do the same, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
Appreciate you very much. And, yeah, and Andy's right. I never really had thought about that. Andy, you're correct. Eventually, because, yeah, there are, in every one of those types of movements and churches, Charlie, I think will admit this as well, there is an influx for a while. There are enough people where you're speaking their language and things start to grow and things are doing really well. Again, until that real underbelly, the Davites, the Davidians, if you would, really start to take over. And then that really starts to shine through. And pretty soon the numbers that were once really, really strong start to diminish. And pretty soon you're down to where there's hardly influence left at all.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. It just gets to a point where people realize, my gosh, the moment I step one step outside of what you demand, you won't just not like it. You will rage against me because these people run on rage. Mark Hampton runs on rage. You've read his stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
In our case, it's very similar, again, to the church, because at that point, Andy, it wasn't that you were, you know, the Davidians now would tell you that you're going to political hell. In my world, it was you were going to the literal hell.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
But it's the same at the end of the day as far as how they're doing it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just had a terrible vision, though, of you dancing like Kevin Bacon in Footloose.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm not sure I'm going to recover from this. John is correct, and Charlie will agree. It's very much a similar thing growing up to the way that movie was, and I'm sorry to say, folks, but those of you that are involved on that side of the aisle and it's and it is my side, but it's a faction of my side of the aisle that frankly will not help us grow. It will not help us win elections. I have continued to hammer on that now for several years. The entire time Dave was there, I was even doing it prior to that because some of that started to surface even before that. The reality is that mentality will not change. The mix of red and blue in the state that I was mentioning a couple of segments ago down at the Statehouse, you're not going to change that at all. In fact, it'll get worse.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, I'll end with this. Their ideal candidate, as they stated, is Ron Hanks. I'll leave it at that.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, we're back. Short little segment here before we do our last ending commercial break here this hour. And we were talking through the break, Andy, Charlie, and I. You guys can't hear these things. But the reality is, yes, it borderlines on a cult. And it's why we even called the Davidians very cult-like for a very long time because you get involved in these things. And even Charlie mentioned it. When you step outside of that for any way, shape, or form, you're ostracized. Okay, so the Davidians are all of those that really followed the Dave Williams end of things. So not only helped get him elected, but even called out people like Andy and I, total rhinos, because we go against some of the things Dave was doing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, the rhino watchers, all those type of people.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's who he called the Davidians.
SPEAKER 10 :
All the people in that group are the Davidians. And by the way, why do we use the cult-like language? It's very simple. Because they blindly follow really one person.
SPEAKER 08 :
Without looking at all of the other facts involved, right? Without being able to answer any questions raised about that. There's no reason in it whatsoever. It's simply blind faith, Andy. Yeah. And that's the problem because you become very cultish when you start following blindly.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. You and I follow Jesus, but we can answer questions that are raised about Jesus.
SPEAKER 08 :
Correct. Correct. And here's the other thing, too, before we go to our break. a problem because believe me I know I've been there been there done that Andy has Charlie has when you're in it it's hard to see that you're in it right it really does take some other people coming along and or certain events or things happening to come along to where you start saying wait a minute What am I doing here? Why am I doing this? Right, because you believe you're being brave, that you are a warrior for good. Right. And that feels so good. And then all of a sudden something happens and you're like, well, wait a minute. If this is the way this is supposed to work, why am I doing this this way?
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All right, and again, as I said a moment ago, I think all of us, I can share with you when my wake-up call was. I think Charlie probably could. Andy had a wake-up call on the other side of the aisle. John from Cheyenne, I'm sure he could mention his wake-up call. Here's my hope for a lot of those quote-unquote Davidians that are on that end of things, Andy, is at some point in time, they will also have a wake-up call and realize that, listen, what we're doing is not the right thing to do. We're not going to get people elected heading down this path. and at some point in time, we've got to turn things around. Otherwise, Colorado's going to continue to just go more blue and blue and blue. We're not purple. We are deep blue, and it will continue to go that way if we don't make some significant changes. So with that, guys, that's the end of Hour 1. Hour 2 is next. Don't go anywhere. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Hey, it's great to be on with you. Thanks for having me back.
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Always a joy. And let's talk a little bit about, I was talking in the last hour about artificial intelligence and where things are headed and different things along those lines and how to tell us something is real or fake. But the bottom line is AI is here. It's going to continue to grow. We have to power that, by the way. How are we going to do that?
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Yeah, exactly. And we are going to need roughly three times the amount of electricity we currently produce. if AI is going to continue in the trajectory that we anticipated to go.
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Okay, and really, for everybody listening, I mean, I think both Andy and I understand why. I'm not sure, though, that every person out there listening right now really understands why is AI bringing this problem of needing more power.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's a great question. So back in, you know, when I was a kid and you had a question, you needed the answer. You went to the card catalog and you found the book in the library and you got it out. You looked up the answer required no electricity. Right. It was pretty easy. Now, when you use the Google, right, you jump on your laptop and you use Google. it uses a very small percentage of electricity but obviously your laptop is powered your laptop is connected to the internet the internet is connected to a whole bunch of servers somewhere in america that's finding out the answer to that question what is the capital of romania and you do a google search right now when you use something like chat gpt or artificial intelligence Hey, could you write me a poem for the hosts of Rush to Reason, but do it in the style of Edgar Allan Poe? Those are the funny things that we use ChatGTP for. That uses around 15 times more electricity. than that Google search. So you're using a tremendous amount of all those servers that are cranking out all this information, that are looking at Edgar Allan Poe and analyzing it for a style, and looking up Rush to Reason, and finding things about you guys to make a funny little poem, and it does that in four and a half seconds, but a tremendous amount of electricity. Now, when we feed those computers things like, analyze this genome for me and determine if if there's a proclivity towards cancer, right? Those are the great things that artificial intelligence is going to do for us. But hundreds of thousands of kilowatt hours of electricity to do something that a bunch of scientists could do, right? But you need thousands of scientists for thousands of hours, and you're going to get that answer eventually. The computer's going to do it faster, right? But the power to do it is extraordinary.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and a great way to explain it, and for everybody listening, it's because those server farms that are doing all of this high-power computing, which, by the way, Daniel, as you know, the chip power that's there is astronomical. You know, NVIDIA, others that are making... you know chips for these machines and the amount of power even though for for those of you listening there's even now to cool the chips because that computing power and what's happening in the chip creates so much heat and Dan you know what I'm going where I'm going with this even the cooling systems required to do what we're talking about on the computing side, and just not talking about what the computer and the chip itself does, but what it takes to keep the temperature even to even make that happen, that is requiring X amount of power to make happen, meaning it just continues to compound, I guess you could say, astronomically.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a great point, and this is where we need our policymakers and our leaders to be somewhat intelligent. And surprise, surprise. That's the problem. That is a huge problem. So the average data center for artificial intelligence, and I think America has about 500 built centers. in the last couple of years. We're on roughly 500 data centers. The average data center uses the equivalent of water to cool, water and electricity of 100,000 homes. Now that's extraordinary. When you think of a development in your neighborhood, you know, old man Johnson died and the kids sold the farm to a developer and they put up 60 houses and you say, whoa, that's a lot of cars, that's a lot of electricity, that's a lot more people in the neighborhood, those 60 houses. Imagine 100,000 houses, but the server center, the data center, you know, is maybe only an acre footprint. So you don't really feel the amount of water and electricity. I'll tell you where I live, which is in rural Virginia. My great state of Virginia has a third of the data centers in America are in Virginia. And Virginia has a huge water and electricity problem. And now suddenly people are saying, well, we must be in a drought because of climate change. And I say, no, we're in a drought because we built the equivalent of 20 million homes in Virginia, and no one has given us any more darn water.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because make sure I'm equating this correctly, which I just did the math while you were talking. Those 500 centers are the equivalent of 50 million homes. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
bingo, of 50 million homes using water and electricity. That's a lot of water and electricity. And so as we're building these data centers and we're talking about AI, it's very important. I totally get it. We want to be ahead of China. We want to win the AI revolution. It's like a space race, right? Bingo. But there are there are infrastructure problems that we need to wrestle with. And when we are putting these up, are we doing the water and the electricity? I love my governor in Virginia. I think Glenn Youngkin's done a great job. He's attracted a lot of business to Virginia. But I haven't seen a new power plant be built. I haven't seen a new. We're putting the cart before the horse, right, Daniel? Exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we never build those things until we panic ourselves into them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that's a great point. And that's what I meant when I say our elected officials need to start being intelligent. Because, you know, you run for office saying, I'm going to attract data centers and revenue. Who runs for office saying, I'm going to build water infrastructure? That's so boring. That's like being the governor of California saying, I'm going to do forest management. No one runs on forest management. And then when the forests burn, you blame climate change.
SPEAKER 17 :
This is where you bring up a great topic, Daniel, that Andy and I probably even come back and talk a little bit more on once we let you go. But this has been my complaint with the majority of politicians, city council-wise. statewide, going all the way up to the federal level, the reality is there are, and I mean this as sincerely as I can, the reality is the majority of people that sit in office, I'm not joking, Daniel, if the cell phone doesn't work or the laptop doesn't turn on, they've got to call somebody to help them get through that because their intelligence level on the items that you and I are talking about right now is nil.
SPEAKER 09 :
100%. And that's a big problem when it is our water systems and our electricity systems that are being used for the larger good of data centers. And I welcome technology. I welcome progress and development, of course. But when my state is being compromised because we are building data centers left and right and there's no infrastructure plan, and that's a big problem we're facing. There aren't a lot of infrastructure plans for data. water systems or electricity systems.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, hypothetically, where would you even get that much water? I mean, obviously you can't use, I mean, saltwater, coastal. No. So where are you going to in Virginia suddenly get that much of an increase in water?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, the only thing I can think of is desalination plants. And I look at Israel, which I've been to before.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, they do it well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Bingo. And I think that's what California needs to do, too. We don't have a water shortage problem in America. And I know there's a lot of arguments over the Columbia and the Snake and the Colorado River. We don't have a water problem and we don't have droughts and it's not climate change. What it is is the same river, which has been flowing the same way for millions of years. now suddenly has 18, 20, 100 million people attached to it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and we've not built to your point. We didn't think ahead of time on storage and proper use of, and not necessarily conservation, but Daniel, just proper use of. We didn't do that very well in the beginning because we felt like we had more than we ever needed.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, exactly. You look at places like Lake Mead or Lake Powell, which are those man-made lakes in the great American West. When they were built, the population was 180, 200,000 people. The populations now are in the tens of millions. And so they look at those lakes and they say, this is climate change. No, it's not. It's overusage. It's people. It's overusage. And unless we start thinking about bringing in huge pipes from the Great Lakes, We're bringing in huge pipes from the mountains. Unless we start building reservoirs in our... I mean, the Rocky Mountains got a lot of snow. Some infrastructure project, an actual reservoir up there somewhere. But I start thinking that way where we're getting a little ahead of ourselves on this infrastructure failure when it comes to AI.
SPEAKER 17 :
And the problem, Daniel, is a lot of what you said has been talked about in states like ours, but you get the environmental movements, the wackadoodles that are out there that literally will shut down things. We've got a dam project here in Colorado on the Front Range, Gross Dam. It's in the Boulder area. county area and they got approved years and years ago and it was been a big battle army corps of engineers and so on they actually gave them approval to raise the dam i believe it's 300 plus feet giving us that much more capacity of water that's it's denver water actually that owns the the water rights to that and they're the ones that are actually building it they got approval to build it but it's been a constant battle even is currently luckily the trump administration has come in and some of their officials have said yep you guys are going to continue on get that thing finished We want to see it done, but it's still a continual legal battle to get those things done, to your point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, look at California, what they did with their water and not using it and what happened when the fires hit. Go ahead, Daniel.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and Governor Newsom has slated to tear down three current existing dams. I don't know if President Trump will now allow him or the government will try to step in at the federal level, but he's on the record saying that there are three dams he wants to tear down for those same environmental reasons. And you start talking about Native American communities and endangered fish, and suddenly reason says, rushes right out the door, right? And how are we going to survive as a people? How are we going to survive in our current quality of life without these infrastructure projects? And again, they're not the fun and sexy things. And there are big elections happening all over the country this year and then obviously next year's midterms. And we're always talking about the big titillating issues. We're talking about transgender, and those are important, don't get me wrong. We talk about guns, and that's important, don't get me wrong. But there are some really boring, perfunctory issues, like infrastructure, like roads, like water, and we ignore them to our detriment. Can't argue that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, make water infrastructure great again just isn't pithy.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is not. It is not. But, boy, do we need it.
SPEAKER 07 :
We do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Otherwise, you know, these data centers will find another place to go. And whether it's communist China. You're right. Any other country is trying to lure them out of America. And if we lose the data centers and the AI race, we're screwed.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're right. No. Daniel, you are spot on. Power of the future. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Powerofthefuture.com. It's always great to be on with you guys. Thank you so much for having me back. Likewise, Daniel.
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SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, too many politicians make these grand sweeping statements. Let's do this big thing. And they don't think of any of the logistics that are going to be needed to support it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because they don't know, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
They're clueless. Yeah, and we were talking off air. We were just talking about all the water that you would need just to regulate to cool these things. What about the energy itself? You need to unleash coal and nuclear. and obviously natural gas you need to unleash those things if you want to get anywhere near the uh electricity needs that democrats want to power their utopia right okay right they want to power their utopia And I'm telling them, look, guys, if you try doing that on wind and solar, you're out of your mind.
SPEAKER 17 :
It's not going to happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 17 :
Not enough there. It's not going to happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Coal, nuclear, natural gas. You need those. You need a lot of those. You need them right now. Do it. Okay. And by the way, natural gas burns clean. Coal burns far cleaner here than it does overseas. And we've gotten it much better. Nuclear is clean. Come on, guys. But they fight it every step of the way.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know. And again, folks, one of the biggest complaints I've had with politicians in general, both sides of the aisle, locally, statewide, nationally, is the reality is most politicians, they've got some sort of ability, pizzazz, fundraising ability, whatever it might be, Andy, the right charisma to become an elected official. Right. But their knowledge level when it comes to some of the things that we're talking about, actual real infrastructure, policy things that need to be made on every level, they don't have the foggiest idea how that stuff works.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, we have to keep in mind there's a reason that America is pushing $40 trillion in debt here pretty soon, and that is feel good you can sell in a soundbite.
SPEAKER 17 :
is good long-term good takes time people don't listen for time for a very long time and that's a real problem we have with america today the problem isn't just the politicians it's the audience right and folks again i'm not trying to be critical of any individual politicians but i guarantee you i could take virtually i don't think this would be too far-fetched andy i think i could take virtually any politician on our side from ted cruz to lauren bobert right and sit down and have a conversation on the technical aspects of what Daniel and I just had a conversation on, and neither one of them would have any idea of the amount of things involved as to what Daniel and I and you just talked about.
SPEAKER 07 :
I totally agree, but I'll give both of them credit to this. Both of those two people you just said would listen to Daniel.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree. And that's the beauty of it. I agree. My feeling, though, is, and this is what I want to see changed, I want people that are actually on the ground in Washington that don't have to go to an advisor to find out how to do X, Y, Z. I want people that actually understand how it works. That would be nice. And I know that's utopia on my end, Andy, because very few people that understand that want to run for office. I get that. But I really wish we had some folks on the ground in not only D.C., but our own capital that understood some of these things and not listening to advisors and lobbyists on how this should work.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I wish we could go into this example. We do not have time, but Trump. Trump understands tariffs far, far, far better than most people who fancy themselves to be economists.
SPEAKER 17 :
True. Talked about that yesterday.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you did?
SPEAKER 17 :
A little bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, then you're way ahead of the game because, look, he understands the very fact that he understands why we have to do this.
SPEAKER 17 :
Andy, I said yesterday that the problem with most experts on tariffs, even some that are here locally running talk shows, they've never written a payroll check. These are people that think they know how they work, and they think they understand the premise of that, frankly, again, have never employed anyone.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and let me take it a step higher. Not only have they not written payroll checks, John, they've never engaged in high-level negotiations. You see, here's the whole reason, if I may. Can I have a minute on this? Yeah, we got time. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
We got plenty of time. Go for it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Folks, for all those who look at Trump's tariff strategy and wonder, oh my gosh, is this a big risk? First of all, the big risk is not doing it because things were getting worse and worse and worse. He already headed down the wrong path. Oh, we were hemorrhaging jobs and industries overseas left and right. Okay, that was a guarantee. Now, the only... negotiating leverage. And the best negotiating leverage that an American president has is the American consumer. Right. That's your number one leverage. You have to look overseas and to all these other countries and say, I will keep you from the American consumer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. We're the biggest buyer.
SPEAKER 07 :
We are the biggest buyer. That is your leverage. Now, we've had a whole string of presidents, some good, some bad, but all of them never used that leverage. In the time, over the last several decades of them never using that leverage, what has happened? Every single other country has escalated. Spurns out of control. tariff after tariff after tariff and they've been building upon each other to where now we've gotten it to where we can barely sell anything overseas and to other countries okay now this president is coming in and saying we have to use that leverage there is no way you can do that without short-term pain my only concern is not his strategy i think his strategy if the american people hypothetically hypothetically If the American people were to look at Donald Trump as one and say, we will take the short-term pain for the long-term gain, then I would absolutely guarantee 100%, no risk whatsoever, that he would bring in far better trade deals across the board and a much better future for America. Guaranteed. The risk is not his strategy. It is the American people.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree. Agree. They don't have the wherewithal for the pain.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Will they agree to be leveraged? And we have to be. And by the way, it's working quickly.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know, Andy, but I'm with you. I've always wondered or have wondered, do we as Americans have the wherewithal to withstand any kind of, you know, I've explained it like a family that has to have some budget cuts. Hey, guys, guess what? Dad's not getting the kind of hours he once did. Mom doesn't have the ability to go to work because I'm helping raise you guys. So the reality is we've only got X amount of money to go around. We're going to have to make some cuts, budgetarily speaking, until we get through this particular time. And by the way, Andy, no family, no kid wants to hear what I just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, the first guy who's come along to do any real budget cuts, people are burning his cars. Right. Okay. I know. Think about this. I know. America has put almost $40 trillion that it has spent of its children's money so that we could float our own economy today. This is how stupid America is. And so while I look at Donald Trump, I know his strategy is right. There is no question his strategy is right. The only way we can lower their tariffs on us. is through the threat of tariffs on them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Pain on their side.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. They must be.
SPEAKER 17 :
Have to pain them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. They must lose the American consumer. He must leverage the American consumer. His strategy is absolutely positively guaranteed to be right and to work.
SPEAKER 17 :
And you're seeing that in regards to even the Canadian prime minister, the new one, being here today talking to Trump and some of those conversations and even what China's starting to do and China having to prop up their own economy because of what's happening and the fact that the Chinese people are somewhat revolting because they don't like what's happening. They're cult. The reality is that we can withstand this. Even we as customers, we as consumers, we can withstand this longer than any other country can, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Why is China collapsing right now? Now, they've had other problems, obviously. But what's really put them over the cliff? They're losing the American consumer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, we are their biggest customer.
SPEAKER 07 :
But this is the first president who says, I'm actually going to play that card. I'm going to play that leverage. OK. And so I wish I could look at all of America. But I realize when I look out in America and I look at them and I say, guys, if you just wait through the short term pain, the long term gain is not an if, maybe or might. It's guaranteed. But I want to look out in America and say that. But what the America that looks back at me is America is so stupid that it's put itself 40 trillion in debt.
SPEAKER 17 :
The only thing I wish that Trump would add into this, and I know we've talked about this a lot, I did a little bit of this yesterday and even Thursday, is – and I know, I'm a states' rights guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Me too.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I don't want Trump just making a blanket statement that we're going to make states do X, Y, Z. But I really wish there was some conversation where even Trump would be saying, listen – I know – even saying it like I just – listen, I believe in states' rights. And I understand that each state has the right to try to attract different businesses to it and so on. And I understand that that can be different from Oklahoma to Colorado to Texas to Wyoming to Nebraska to Virginia. I get that. And I understand that each state is going to do things a little bit differently. But – collectively, I'm going to bring all the governors together, and I want to figure out ways to whereby we can fast-track different projects in this country so that somebody wanting to come in and build a plant in XYZ state doesn't have to jump through three years' worth of studies before they even put a shovel in the ground.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I want to figure out a way for that. I want to figure out a way as a country where we can fast track these things and not have these huge delays that a lot of local municipalities and states and so on, you know, put upon those particular people wanting to do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but here's the problem, John. The Democrats don't want Trump to have fast success.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know they don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want to hold him up.
SPEAKER 17 :
They don't want the development either, Andy. Right. That's the other problem you've got. They don't want that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, look, what does it do to America to have California ban offshore drilling? There is so much oil off their shores. Right. And they're keeping that from America. Right. They shouldn't have the right to do that. Well, it states rights. Now, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. That's America.
SPEAKER 17 :
And so it affects the entire nation.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it does.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Well, I agree. For example, I'll give you another situation where I don't feel like states rights Trump what's going on federally. That's the whole Second Amendment. Agreed. Absolutely. I don't think that Colorado should have the right to pass the law that it just passed, even though it's a state's rights thing. Right. I believe that federally, the Constitution, the Second Amendment itself, trumps, pardon the pun, but trumps everything else coast to coast, even municipalities when, you know, city of Denver having its own gun control laws, for example, that that federal Second Amendment, quote unquote, constitutional, you know, supremacy. Right. Right. Trump's everything else, and I'm one of these that feels like no state, no city should be able to pass anything Second Amendment-wise, period, because the Constitution already says I have the right to bear arms. Agreed. And that should be a federal thing. By the way, even including the right to carry should be reciprocal from coast to coast, period, because that should be a federal thing, not a state thing. Yeah, absolutely. That's where I look at this and say, yeah, I believe in states' rights, except for when it comes to the good of either your rights overall or what's good for the country.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I totally agree. Does that make sense? Yeah. I think it's absolutely criminal for states like Colorado to take away people's Second Amendment rights and limit them to that degree. It shouldn't even be discussed.
SPEAKER 17 :
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And, yeah, again, folks, just going back through some of what we were talking about in regards to politicians and their knowledge level and tariffs and where is Trump at and all of those different things. And I hope. and pray that the American public have the fortitude, Andy, to stick with this long enough to see us through. I also would like to see Trump because I think, by the way, it would help. This is my point with what I was saying earlier about Trump maybe communicating a little bit differently on, listen, we want to try to fast track even some of these people bringing things back and so on. I think if people realize that, wait a minute, the left is telling me that what Trump's talking about is a five-year plan, but if it's a two-year plan and we can get jobs back in the matter of 12 to 18 to 24 months, okay, guess what? I'll take a little bit of pain right now to have that happen. I think we need to communicate that better is my point. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
How long is the pain going to be? Correct. And here's how long I think the pain is going to be, 6 to 12 months max. I don't think there are any countries out there that can handle tariffs like this any longer than 6 to 12.
SPEAKER 17 :
Some can't go that long, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know they can't. Some can't go a month. There are some who need relief now. I'm just saying, I'm trying to think of the ones who can wait longer.
SPEAKER 17 :
China being one of those, by the way. The only thing that gives them the ability to go longer is because they will lie. falsify data, which they're already doing, by the way, not report what's really going on inside of the country. That's what they'll do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, because they don't care about the oppression of their people. Correct. They do that for breakfast.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
But also another thing China can do is, because they are so expansive around the globe, they can connect with other countries and make deals to a point. Can they replace the American consumer, though? No, they cannot. This is why we have to leverage.
SPEAKER 17 :
And let me let me expand on that, Andy, because what you just said is is true. And I think I hope China understands this. You combine a lot of other countries. You go through the list of countries that, you know, have have a solid GDP, for example, which let's remind everybody ours is around twenty eight trillion. China's is about $17 trillion. The next closest to that is Germany at $4 trillion. Right. So if China wants to replace our $28 trillion, they literally have to spread their goods around to a lot of countries, which, by the way— Countries who are already buying from other places. That are already buying from other places that also have the consumer base willing to buy said goods because, frankly, there's a lot of other countries that don't look too highly on cheap Chinese crap.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's not just that, John. So many of these other countries are already buying from other countries. Well, and in some cases, buying different products. Right. America is a rabid consumer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. We buy crap all the time, Andy. We buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy.
SPEAKER 07 :
We buy crap we don't need, Andy. Okay, I got news for you. Other countries don't do that. France doesn't buy like us. No. Okay, it's just the way it is. Nicaragua doesn't buy like us. It's just the way it is. Andy, we can go down the list.
SPEAKER 17 :
The Brits, the Germans, the Italians, on down the line we go. None of them buy like we do.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is why, in my opinion, and this is going to sound bad, and I hope I don't get us in trouble for saying this. But in my opinion, it is almost criminal that the last several presidents have not leveraged the American consumer. I would agree with you. In trade negotiations.
SPEAKER 17 :
I would agree with you on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is incredible that all these other presidents did not look at the rest of the world and say, look, you want access to the American consumer. You've got to give us a better deal because right now we can't sell anything anywhere. OK, not nearly enough. We can't sell nearly enough stuff. You can't have 100 percent, 150 percent, 40 percent, 80 percent tariffs on this product, that product, another product. You can't be doing that to all our products. And me still as the American president look at you and say, oh, you can still have full access to the American consumer. And that is what every single president has done until this one. There is no risk in his plan. There's only risk in our stomach for the early days of the plan.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and again, Andy, I think it's something that, again, you don't hear any of this talked about in the media at all, frankly, because I don't think most people think through some of what Andy and I were even talking about a moment ago, which is the simple fact of what we buy. versus what other countries buy. And if China wants to go peddle its goods around the world, the problem is they don't have the same consumer base. Even if these countries are buying, let's take Germany, for example, $4 trillion a year. Are they buying the same type of goods, Andy, that we are? No, they're not. No, they're not. We like what China sells. Not every other country does, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, it's kind of like this, John. What's your favorite food to go out for?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, I don't know. I love all, you know me, I'm fat. I love all food. Okay, well, let's say... Mexican food, let's say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, you love Mexican food. Okay, guess what? Mexican restaurants can really market to John.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
There are other kinds of restaurants, Indian food restaurants, probably can't market to John quite as well. Probably not quite as well. You know, I know you like some of it. I like all of them anyway. Well, you like curry. I get it. But you know what I mean? There are people who are not John... who they can't market to, okay? They want John as their market.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you're somebody that doesn't like spicy foods, the Mexican restaurant's not going to market to them well.
SPEAKER 07 :
So if I were to tell these restaurants, you are going to lose all the John rushes out there. You're going to lose all of them if you don't cut a better deal. Guess what? They're going to cut a better deal.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right, because they can't go without that customer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Right. We are the best customer in the world. And I got news for you. Every president until now looked at that customer and said this. I got to keep cheap stuff coming in the short term always or they're going to vote me out. And this is the first president who had the guts to look at us and say, you know what, guys, you better take a little pain right now or you're going to lose all your jobs.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I'm going to say this and I mean this. Trump did a little bit of this the last time, actually did a lot of it, not to the extent that he's doing it now. But he did some of this the last time he was president. But keep in mind that we had eight years of Obama and four years of Biden that were in the back pocket of the Chinese. Yeah. Literally. That's why they didn't do it, because they were their puppets. And I mean that sincerely. Joe Biden, especially. Oh, yes. Absolutely. In the back pocket of the Chinese.
SPEAKER 07 :
Literally owned by the Chinese.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. And I would go as far as to say Obama wasn't far off of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I would agree. Not as bad as Biden, but yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 17 :
And what I mean in the back pocket of doing what the Chinese want so you can get them to play ball the way you feel like they need to play ball. We'll go ahead and do that. Oh, yeah. Totally benefited Obama and Biden. Absolutely. Exactly. And so what we've got now is a president saying, we're not doing that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Biden literally had his family members bought off, which is that's a different level.
SPEAKER 17 :
But yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, you bring up a great point, Andy. It's something that, again, is not talked about in general media. And for those of you listening, these are things that you need to share among your peers, among your family, among the water cooler and so on is the fact that we are the biggest customer. There's a reason we're the biggest customer. And we buy things from other countries as customers that, frankly, most other countries don't buy. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and the bottom line is this. It has gotten to where countries more and more and more and more and more aren't buying from us, which means we're not making anything, which means jobs are gone. We can't keep hemorrhaging jobs.
SPEAKER 17 :
And we allowed some of this to start happening. And I like Glenn Beck. I'm not probably his biggest fan, but he puts out some good stuff on a pretty routine basis. And he put out a video the other day that I watched. It was a short video, a couple minute long. And he was talking about areas around Detroit and Indiana. Whereby at one time, you know, Dearborn, Michigan was one of the largest, you know, Buick City and some of those things that were around those areas and the amount of cars they produced and so on. And how in the 90s, literally those things started to go away and they got offshored and they got sent to places like Canada and Mexico and Brazil and so on. And literally those places now are a skeleton of what they once were. And there was no reason for that to happen. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
There was a two-headed monster that happened. On the one hand, it was leaders who didn't leverage the American consumer. On the other hand, it was unions who drove up the price of American labor to such heights that we couldn't compete.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. And now, really quick to close this particular segment out, we've got Spain. No, it's Spain. But they want to reduce the 40-hour work week to, I believe, 37 and a half hours. Why? I guess because they want their people to have more comfort, quote-unquote.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who cares?
SPEAKER 17 :
That was my thought.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, then you're going to compete less with countries that... You know what? In India, they work how many hours?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, a lot.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
A lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
And in China, they work how many hours? A lot. At Nike factories, they work how many hours? A lot.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Well, I did some math. We can do this before we go to break. Yeah, go ahead. There's 168 hours total in a week. I've done this in the past, but... Bear with me, because it always bothers me when I hear somebody say, well, man, I just can't make ends meet, and I'm always asking, well, how many jobs do you have? Well, just the one. Okay, let me explain what I mean by that. 168 hours in a week. Take off an entire day of the week, Sunday, take 24 hours out of that, okay? I'm going to give everybody at least one day off, Andy. So take 24 hours out of it. Make sense? Yep. Okay. So that's 24 hours. We're going to take 48 hours for sleep. That's six nights because we're taking Sunday off already. So six nights at eight hours, which not everybody needs eight hours, but I'm giving everybody eight hours of sleep. So we're taking out another 48 hours. I'm going to take out another 30 hours for just rest and play, which, by the way, is six hours a day on those other six days. That's a considerable amount of play, by the way, I feel. Some would argue with me and say that's not enough, but I think it's plenty. That's 66 hours left in the week to work, and most people work 40 or less. Right. I get it. Some of you listening work 50, 60, 70. I get it. You're not all that way. But my point with Spain is you want your people to basically work half of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. You lazy, worthless, good for nothing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. And my point always has been with individuals where they say, you know, I just I can't make enough money. I can't make ends meet. You know, that's because you don't have enough jobs. Or you haven't made yourself worthy enough through skill sets or whatever to make yourself valuable enough to where you're making more money on a hourly, weekly, monthly, yearly basis.
SPEAKER 07 :
What about my sociology degree?
SPEAKER 17 :
That doesn't count. I was watching a video. There's a guy out there on social media, young kid. He's got a channel whereby he interviews very wealthy individuals that have made money through most of them being entrepreneurs.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
And he happened to interview by chance, and I think he picked some of these people out, and he must know where they hang out and stuff. But he actually ended up interviewing the ex-CEO of Centos. Centos is a uniform company, and they make and service all sorts of different places with soaps and different things and mats and so on. It's a huge company, a billion-dollar company. And he interviewed him, and he basically got to the point where he said, you know, number one, how did you get to be CEO? He said, well, I just started out in the company, and I worked my way up, and this, that, and the other. And he said, you know what I learned early on? He said, when my boss came to me, and it was the end of the day, and he said, hey, are you done for the day? And he'd say, yep. And he said, and I would respond. This is the CEO now talking. I would respond with, is there anything else you'd like me to do for you? And he said, most of the time, my boss would just say, yeah, no, good. You're good. Go home. He said occasionally he'd ask me to do something else, which I would stay and do. He said before long, I became his right hand. And he said I wanted to become his right hand because I knew that if I was his right hand and somebody above him was asking, hey, do you know anybody that is good at doing such and such? The first person they would think of was me. And he said, over the years, I did that over and over and over again and finally became CEO. My point, Andy, is this. If you want to make more money, make yourself more valuable. And available. It's as simple as that. We'll be back here in just a minute. Finish things out. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. They want to take care of you buying or, you know, you're going to sell a vehicle. They'll do that as well. They'll take your vehicle, consign it, sell it. They can help you buy a new vehicle as well. They do it all under one roof. RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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It's time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, minute and a half or so left of today's program. I appreciate you all listening today, by the way, on a very wet and... Cooler.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Tuesday, but that's okay. It's all good. Makes the grass green, as we said earlier. So that's all good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Really quick here. The Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration can ban the trans people from the military. I say amen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Did they give a reason? I didn't read the ruling, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did they give a reason why? I didn't have time to read the ruling. I've been busy with the show. But they basically sided with the Trump administration. Look, here's the bottom line, John. people who literally believe they are in the wrong body, I don't believe belong securing our country.
SPEAKER 17 :
I would agree with you. Okay. Let me add to that. I would agree with you. Go ahead. The same as I would agree with anybody else that would have any kind of a mental health problem. Right. Whereby it may affect their ability, their judgment and so on. I would agree with you on all levels. I don't want anybody having to go through that and still defend our country at the same time. Right. That makes sense. Yes. I mean, it's not that I'm angry with them. I'm very concerned about them and their mental well-being. And I'm concerned as a citizen about them protecting my freedom.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, so am I. Rush Limbaugh once said that the military is there to kill people and break things. That's what it is meant for. It is not a social experiment, okay? It's not about your rights. And you can say, well, what if you did this to a black or a Hispanic? There's nothing about being a different race that keeps you from defending our country.
SPEAKER 17 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Male, female. Nope, there's nothing about that, although you have to meet physical standards.
SPEAKER 17 :
Requirements.
SPEAKER 07 :
Requirements. That's right. But no. But if you literally think that you were in the wrong body, that's a mental illness. You should not be in the military.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree with that. Have a great night, folks. Stay dry. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey there, friends. Angie Austin here with The Good News. Thrilled to have Beatrice Bruno. Hello, Bea. Hey, good to be here. And Michelle Ron. Welcome, Michelle.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yay, it's so good to be with you both. Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, so every week, Michelle Rahn, a retired teacher and current speaker, she has a word of the week. And Beatrice Bruno, the drill sergeant of life, is rebooting her drill sergeant of life. So we kind of talk about life. And I just ran into another good news gal yesterday asking about both of you. I remember Cindy, and she was asking how both of you were doing. It's like, what's Beatrice doing back? I'm like, rebooting. She's rebooting her combat boots.
SPEAKER 08 :
Amen. Amen. That's exactly what I'm doing. And it's quite a journey. It is quite a journey.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'll bet it is. You've had quite a few wild years here the last few years. All right, Michelle, let's start with you. We'll just dive right into the word of the week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okie doke. My word this week is pursue. P-U-R-S-U-E. Pursue. And what it means is to, one of the meanings is to seek to accomplish a goal over a period of time. So last week, we talked about a task with a purpose, a little bit each day to achieve a goal. We pursue something. So this week, we in Denver viewed the results of a sports team pursuing their end result of their season, even though they have five more games. But indeed, the Denver area is celebrating big time our Nuggets basketball team. And I have truly enjoyed watching the team members as well as Coach Malone When they're interviewed, because they, I, well, I believe along with many people that they have been coached well, because each of them say, this is them, this one game is what we are pursuing. We're not jumping ahead down the road. The now is important. And that's our task, our purpose. And each one of us, each little step of the way, one foot ahead of the other, one idea at a time, and our eyes on our life source of Jesus. And LeBron James was interviewed after the game, and he was asked about Jokic. And I loved his comment because he said, he sees plays before they happen, he said. And that is what Jesus is telling us. Jesus knows our plays before they happen. And those of us with our eyes towards Jesus, we may question what in the world is going on. But it's Christ who has developed a plan. He knew us before we were born. He has my name. He has your name. He has each of our names on the palm of his hand. And we need to pursue what God has placed for us to achieve the life journey that he's given us. So you may think, as I surely did many times, Times along my life journey, I have no idea what I'm supposed to be pursuing. But I will tell you, God does. He knows. And we have a responsibility. We have a task. Because our responsibility is to ask him, to talk to him, to ask him to give us clarity of mind and wisdom to know and to pursue God. We surely will not have a response of those around us that the Nuggets have had on their journey. Oh, my goodness. But our audience is one, and it's God himself. And there's no other focus but to him and his kingdom for which we should aim to pursue. And I love that the Nuggets gave us a great example of that. Ta-da! There we go.
SPEAKER 05 :
I like that. I think that's good for my little daughter. We both know she plays basketball. She's pretty good, and she's starting high school. She plays, and she was like five. So anyway, she's worried more about bigger girls because she's tiny and how they view her and comments they make about her. So we talked about it in depth. I always give her Philippians 4.13, all things are possible through Christ who strengthens me. And I basically said to her, like, what's the worst? These kids don't like you or they make a comment about you or, you know, you're smaller than they are. So you get manhandled a little more like what's the worst thing they could say about you? She's like, well, I guess just that they didn't like me. And then I was just kind of going through scenarios to try to, like, calm her anxiety about playing against people. If she weighs 90 pounds, some of these girls are like 160 pounds. So it's a significant weight difference and height difference at this point in time. She's 5 feet, and some of them are 6 feet or 5'10". So their high school kids go in, and she's 90 pounds. So high school kids are, some of them, full-grown, many of them, the women. So I just talked with her a lot about that God's opinion matters and yours and all these other people. Even when Dad, when he makes the face, when you miss a free throw and you hear him say, Faith, what are you doing? Like, it doesn't matter. I said, I'm sorry. It doesn't matter what Dad thinks of you. It doesn't matter what anybody in the crowd says or any of your teammates. You and God, you're playing the game. That's it. And it's just the one game. I like that she watches all these basketball games. And so I like it that they talk about just pursuing that one game. I think that's really beneficial info.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Right. Very much so. And they're so humble. They are so humble.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they play like a team. We appreciate it. And you guys know it's egos.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's egos now in basketball. It's names. It's like, oh, three big names. No, they play like a team. They don't play like three big names. And that's been like the demise of basketball to some degree, in my opinion, that, you know, you have five big names and all these egos keep bumping into each other on the court and they can't play like a team because they they're so what do they be interested? My friend Monique, our friend Monique, she said her grandma used to say, they're smelling themselves. They can smell themselves like they're full of themselves.
SPEAKER 09 :
Cute. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good vision. You know, when Michelle brought up that word pursuit, it took me back to King David. Before he was king, he was living with the Malachites or the Philistines. And they were going to fight, and the people of the Philistines said, no, we don't want David to fight with us because he might turn on us and might try to take us. And so they had to go back to where they were, which was Ziglag. And when they got back to Ziglag, David and his army found that the wives were gone, the women were gone, the children were gone. They had been taken. They had burned the city and everything. And David, as the leader— You know, they were threatening him, saying, look, our people are gone, our family is gone, and we're going to kill you now. Because where is our family? And the people, the men were just sad about it. But David encouraged himself in the Lord. And he went and he got the ephod from the priest. And he said to the Lord, he said, shall I pursue you? In other words, shall I go after the people that took our wives and took our children and took all our stuff? And God said to him, he said, pursue, but thou shalt surely overtake them, and without fail, recover all. And I look at that from what Michelle was saying. See, we have to pursue stuff with all our hearts. We really do. Because God has already put something inside of us. Okay, look at the basketball players that you're talking about right now. They have basketball down to their very core. Okay, look at Angie's youngest daughter. She's got basketball inside of her to her very core. And if you've never seen that child play basketball, she is a wonder. A little bitty something, okay? But I tell you what, when they put that basketball in that child's hands, you would think she was about 6'5". Okay. And like our other friend's daughter that's going. Oh, yeah, Michelle.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Michelle Betts' girls. Yeah, two of them are playing. And they both, I think they, one just moved to a different.
SPEAKER 08 :
And her one daughter is 6'7".
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they're top. I mean, they're like, she was the top recruit a year or two ago. And her sister's going to be the top recruit in the country as well. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and so see, these kids, these people are pursuing that basketball thing. What is it inside of you that you're supposed to be pursuing right now? And I'm talking to the listeners. I'm talking to everybody. What is inside of you that you're supposed to be pursuing right now? Because God has already put that thing down inside of you, and it's time for you to pursue it like never before because you shall recover all, and you shall be at the top of your game when you get to it. I'm looking at myself. There are certain things that I have always wanted to pursue. Yesterday, I was over at Regis University. And when I drove up onto the campus, I felt like I was going home. And as I walked into the building that I was going into, I was a co-mediator for this mediation thing. And as I walked into the building, I just felt like, Lord, this is where I'm supposed to be. See, because I've always wanted a college degree, and I've got an associate's degree, but that really isn't where I want to stop at. I want a Ph.D., and I make people laugh when I say I want a Ph.D., and it can be an underwater basket weaving. I don't care as long as it's a Ph.D., and you get to call me Dr. Beatrice, okay? But I want a Ph.D., and when I went on that campus yesterday, something inside of me just lit up. And I said, uh-uh. I said, Lord, if this is for me, you're going to have to show me how to get my stuff because I want my stuff. See, we in our society, we always look at our age and say, well, you know, you're older, you're more experienced, and it's just time for you to stop doing that. The devil is a liar, okay? I'm going to get my stuff because I'm going to pursue it with all my might. And I'm going to get my stuff. And as I was walking this morning, I said, yeah, I want to be a professor of literature and fine writing. That's exactly what I want because that's who I am. That's what's inside of me. And I encourage your listeners today, Angie, think about what's inside of you and pursue that thing with all your might. Because when you get to it, you're going to feel so good about yourself, but even better about what you know that God has already put inside of you. And you pursued it, and you got that thing. That's my take on it. That's how I feel about it today.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. When you talked about college, I thought about what a great teacher you'd be. And there's a lot of help for people that want to become teachers, professors in a teaching community here in Colorado. They offer a lot of schooling for people that want to do that. And I think some of it's even free. But my son has been taking... different you know a different route but he's been taking free college courses and he'll probably have two years of college credit by the time he graduates next year just being offered through the community colleges while he's going to high school and so every other day he goes back and forth between this campus where he takes the classes And they've done a lot of things to make it – if you're not bent on going to some school that's extremely expensive and prestigious, some of these community colleges have made it really affordable. But there's also a lot of help, Beatrice, for – you are a veteran. You're an African-American woman. You're of a certain age. I would think that there is money available to help you go to school. It just takes a little digging and pursuing these avenues. Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Amen. And that's what I'm going to do. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to do it.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I totally see you as a professor. I am I I'm kind of in that point in my life where I've got four more years of being seriously busy with this kid. These kids, as I look at my schedule, you know, I've got my interviews lined up and that that, you know, is like my work part of my schedule. But then when I look in the evening, I've got one, two, three, four, five, six things tonight, including swim practice, basketball practice, an open gym at Grandview for my new basketball player, a parents meeting. So I've got all these things that we juggle because we now have three drivers. But I'm thinking about, so what's next after this? What's next? What do I want to start pursuing now that could lead to something in four years? I'm still fairly young now. in four years. And so would that be a second career? You know, what am I going to pursue next? So I really feel blessed that I've been able to continue the radio show and the good news with you two and some of my other regulars because, you know, I can work remotely now and, you know, and it's a part-time job that gives me a lot of joy and it gives me a lot of inspiration to talk to the two of you every week. I look forward to Tuesdays very much.
SPEAKER 09 :
Amen. Well, me too. I look forward to it too.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Beatrice, give us your website for people to find you. You write, you speak. People can reach out to you very easily.
SPEAKER 08 :
Amen. DrillSergeantOfLife.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
And Michelle speaks a lot. Where can we reach you, Michelle?
SPEAKER 06 :
MichelleARon.com. That's great. Thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you can find me at AngieAustin.org. Again, that's AngieAustin.org. Love you, ladies.
SPEAKER 06 :
Love you, too. Thank you. Make a good choice today. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
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Erie, thanks for tuning in to KLTT, the Mighty 670.
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Hello there, friend. Angie Austin with the Good News. Well, we've enjoyed him so much. We're bringing back J. Otis Ledbetter. He is the author of Set Free, Released from the Damage of Trauma. And today we're talking about his soul hunger chart. I love that, Otis. Welcome back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you for having me, Angie.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you were talking to me about, you know, our sins and how the fruits of the spirit can help fill the need, fill our heart. So explain this all to us before we kind of break it down.
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Well, it is. In the Bible, there are two lists that are side to side, and you find it in Galatians 5. One is the nine fruit of the Spirit. The other list is 17 works of the flesh or deeds of the flesh. And we are very familiar with the deeds of the flesh because that generally is our first choice to satisfy the nine human hungers that God gives us at birth because, you know, at birth, Each of us possess God-given hungers, and we spend our lives trying to satisfy and gratify those hungers. And God gives us that list of the fruit of the Spirit, and He calls it fruit. I mean, fruit. I've given you this fruit in order to satisfy those hungers that I've given you. Now, C.S. Lewis is right. God would never give us a desire or a hunger that He could not fulfill. So He fulfills it through the fruit of the Spirit. But Satan comes along, as he always does, and he says, well, I can satisfy that same hunger. And instead of one, I've got two for you, except one place on truth. He only has one for you there, but he's got two for you, and he also always tells us, I can do it faster. My gratification, or I can assuage that hunger faster than the fruit of the Spirit, because it takes a while. So why don't you come with me? And so we will tend to, the flesh is cheap imitation of the fruit of the Spirit. It's a seductive siren song, especially for people who desire connection so strongly, Angie, that they will believe what they know to be a lie. And so that's the list. So between that list, The Bible says the flesh wars against that fruit of the Spirit, or the Spirit, and the Spirit wars against the flesh. And you never go to war over something you don't want. You never go to war over territory you don't need. And so he says war, not battle, not a struggle. It's war, and we know war is hell. Everybody that's ever been to it knows it is. So that war goes on. So what are they warring over? Many times people say, well, they're warring over your soul. No, my soul is with Jesus. It's set. He has no power. The devil has no power over that. He's not warring over my soul. What he's warring over, he's warring over those hungers, those nine hungers. That's ground zero. That's where the battle takes place. And so the more we know about that, the more we can say, okay, well, the right choice for me is the fruit of the Spirit and not the works of the flesh.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, so when I look at, you know, you know, the actual chart itself and at first I was like, oh, gosh, this is confusing. But it's not really under adultery. Then you have the fruit of the spirit love that would help us to not commit adultery, love, but not that kind of love. Idolatry, a piece would be the fruit of a spirit that would help us overcome that jealousy or anger. kindness is the fruit of the Spirit. I mean, this all makes sense to me. I mean, the Bible is really a lot more common sense, I think, than we give it credit for.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's the best psychology book I've ever written.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you counsel a lot of people, don't you?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yes, I have for years and years. I was in the military. I was a counselor, chaplain, a counselor for the 144th Interceptor Wing. And they would send them to me. They sent them to me. They don't have to go to the psychologist. And it'd be on their record. So, yes, I've been a college counselor. I've been a military counselor. I'm a pastor. I counsel people. For 54 years, I've counseled.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you still are. I still am. What do you love so much about that? I mean, obviously, you're intermingling, you're infusing the Bible into your counseling. Have you always done that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, because I don't believe there are any answers outside of Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's a good answer. I like that. I like that. We've talked about how you say you don't stumble across a happy life. And that really stuck with me in terms of, you know, how you're helping people to have that happy life, but to do the work necessary to get there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, yes, to do the work necessary to get there. And this book, Angie, is a 13 year project. It wasn't a book I decided to write and got a ghostwriter for and And then got it out for money. This is my experience in counseling over 54 years. And I put it on paper. And it just makes sense that everybody I talk to, when they go through it. Now, people are going to say, well, what's my hunger? What do I deal with? There is a chart in the book. that you can answer 27 questions, and it will tell you what you're struggling with right now. You answer those questions, I can tell you what your hunger is right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and if you go online to Hungertest.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hungertest.com, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, it's on social media. That 27 questions has been reduced to 9, 10 questions, and you'll get the same results. And if you take this hunger test online, it will immediately send you an email, tell you what dominant hunger you have and what you're struggling with right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
And will it tell you the fruit of the spirit that will help you?
SPEAKER 07 :
It gives you a synopsis of the chapter that deals with that fruit of the spirit and those works of the flesh.
SPEAKER 05 :
And again, if you're just joining us, Jay Otis Ledbetter. Otis has been on the show several times in the last month. The book is Set Free, Released from the Damage of Trauma. And so are there common ones that you feel people, Hungertest.com, when you're testing them, are there common ones that you come across that a lot of people are dealing with?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, the webmaster sends me the percentages overwhelmingly. overwhelmingly most are dealing with during this covid time intimacy and connection they feel so disconnected and so that went from about 43 percent what is normal before covid and it went up to 76 percent during covid oh my that's that's what people are dealing with also um i i have i have one if you if you let me share this sure someone that's counseling um counseling now allows me to allows me to say this, they took the hunger test and this time and it said intimacy and they could not understand why it said intimacy because before when they took the evaluation it said achievement, they were in achievement. And so in the course of the therapy or in the course of the counseling, he wrote this for me. He said, I'm finding answers and more questions as it pertains to my life specifically. And this test has moved me in ways back to centering my true inner content I thought were long gone and replaced by drive and success and engulfing pursuit of achievement. I miss investing my life experiences and challenges, successes and failures in others as teaching and a learning tool that also fosters hope against the odds of circumstances. And what he's doing now is he's seeing that people – You see, people, Angie, have experiences that are rotting without redemption. They don't know why they had that experience, and the life lessons or whatever over that experience are just rotting. They don't know why they had that experience or that happened to them, and that's what he's saying here. And he hasn't taken those experiences and redeemed them for wisdom so he could pass those to his children, his spouse, his friends. and he only in his achievement he only kept them for himself and so as a result he has isolated everybody else in his life he's achieving so much no nothing or nobody means anything and now he finds himself isolated and he desires intimacy so what's happening is to him now is When he takes the hunger test, the intimacy comes up because that's what he's craving right now. He needs to be careful because the steps down from intimacy lead to not good things.
SPEAKER 05 :
And when you're talking about intimacy, it's closeness, relationships, it's connection. And I think you and I were talking about the Harvard study about happiness and that it all boiled down to decades and decades of a study. And I'm reading a book that basically has a lot of the interviews with the people over the years and explains what does bring true happiness or joy. And it is these relationships, these connections with other people and family, of course, but, you know, friendships and keeping in touch with, you know, just distant relatives, you know, older relatives that, you know, that connection may not fit into your lifestyle because you're so busy. But making the effort to keep those connections, that's what leads to true happiness. And you said during COVID, more and more people say they were lacking that closeness, those connections, the relationship, the intimacy.
SPEAKER 07 :
They absolutely were. And you talk about happiness or joy. If you look at the chart, the fruit of the Spirit, joy, it really serves to feed our hunger for happiness. We want happiness. You see, to get happiness, we typically will pursue gratifying circumstances. But to get joy, you have to pursue God. David said, ìThe joy of the Lord is my strength.î And so that joy that God gives you that serves to assuage the hunger for happiness is what you need. But we will tend, and the works of the flesh will come along and offer you cheap thrills. And you get joy for a little while, you know, and then you find out that wasn't real joy. That just lasted a few years. moments or a day or whatever. True joy, true happiness is the pursuit of God.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, true joy, true happiness is the pursuit of God. And that's where you get the true joy. What has kept you happy and filled you with joy over your life?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, my soul hunger has been from the very beginning, contentment. I love it. I'm an achiever. but my dominant hunger is contentment. And contentment is more about us than our circumstances. When motivated purely by discontentment, people end up, what they end up with is rarely what they hope to find. So if you're discontented, And you're trying to find contentment through that discontentment. You probably won't find it because you're looking into your circumstances and not about you and yourself. So God says the peace. And he told his disciples when they were so distressed. upset about him leaving. They hooked their wagon to him for three years, and now he's in a room, and he just told them, I'm going to leave you, and where I'm going, you can't go right now. And that created a storm in that room, a motion so thick you could cut it with a knife. And Thomas said, well, where are you going? And Jesus said, well, you know where I'm going. They said, no, we don't know where you're going. And so Jesus settled them. He said, there's three things I want for you. I want you to be peaceful, I want you to be untroubled, and I want you to be unafraid. What more could we want than what he just told his disciples? I want you peaceful, untroubled, and unafraid. And contentment is synonymous with peace. And that's what we want. We want our life to be peaceful. We live at a time when that is challenged, big time challenged. And so if you look around you... You may find unhappy people who are content.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, isn't that interesting? Oh, Otis, we're out of time. Make sure people know how to reach you and get in touch with you. And again, the hunger test is hungertest.com. And your website, Otis? It's joledbetter.com. Love it. Thank you, friend. Thank you.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
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Rick opens up about his journey alongside his mentor, Pastor R.P. Thame Jr., and shares timeless insights that continue to shape his teaching. Through a rich tapestry of Biblical doctrines and personal anecdotes, Rick challenges listeners to orient their lives around unwavering faith and divine knowledge. Uncover how focusing on Jesus, coupled with full knowledge (epignosis) of His love, leads to genuine inner peace and an exemplary Christian lifestyle.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 01 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. Just a short show, about 30 minutes of motivation, inspiration, education, and always done without any type of manipulation, which means we don't con you for money. We're not trying to solicit funds. We're not offering to sell you anything. We're just offering to give you clear word of God, hoping that we can identify God's plan for your life so you can orient and adjust to the plan. That's my desire. And I thank you for listening. Thank you for giving me a few minutes of your time. If you do, you'll find this is not like any other radio show you've heard dealing with the Bible because we're a lot different. Here we deal with mechanics and how the things operate, how the Word of God actually applies to your life without getting on the emotional side and trying to get you worked up emotionally. Today's show that we're going to do will conclude our study on how we came up with the term flotline. That's the name of our radio show, FLOTLINE. So please remember that this term is a military phrase which stands for the Forward Line of Troops, F-L-O-T, FLOTLINE. My pastor, R.P. Thame Jr., used this term to teach the concept of learning 10 basic principles of scripture that once you learn them and once you believe them and use them, they can act as a main line of resistance, a flat line in your soul, stopping the outside sources of adversity from ever becoming the inside source of stress in your life. That's why we say adversity is inevitable and stress is optional, because adversity is simply what circumstances do to you, but stress, that's what you do to yourself. No Christian has to live a life of stress-related sins. if they will use and learn these 10 wonderful problem-solving devices. In the past few weeks, I've shared with you what Pastor Tain taught me. And I trust you'll understand that these are simply scriptural insights. They're not some human viewpoint system of thinking. This is not some weird thing that he conned up. This is strictly Bible doctrine. This is from the Word of God. Nothing new, nothing unique, but it's put in such a way that you understand how the Christian life works and operates. And we looked at rebound, which is how you deal with sin when you fail. You rebound, you recover by confessing your sin. We've looked at the filling of the Holy Spirit, which is how you control the genetically formed old sin nature. We've looked at the faith rest drill, how to stand on the promises of God. We've looked at grace orientation, living by grace, saved by grace, dying grace. We've looked at doctrinal orientation, which is to study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed. And then we've looked at you having a personal sense of destiny. We also studied virtue love and broke it down into two different realms, personal love for God and impersonal love for others. These are eight of the 10 problem-solving devices that we've been through. And then last week, if you were listening, we looked at problem-solving device number nine, which was sharing the happiness of God. Today, if I can, I'm gonna try to conclude this review of the Flatline Concept with problem-solving device number 10, the final problem-solving device, which is occupation with Christ, okay? All right, let's look at Hebrews 2.2 to start off with our key passage. Fixing our eyes on Jesus Christ, the author and perfecter of our faith. Fixing our eyes or concentrating on Jesus Christ, the author and perfecter of our faith. This unique way of thinking, concentrating on Christ, directs us to put the emphasis on God rather than on people and circumstances. It's easy to concentrate on other people and get discouraged. It's easy to concentrate on some adverse circumstances and get discouraged. But if you will focus on the Lord Jesus Christ, put your eyes on him, then you can be occupied with Christ and not have to go through all this discouragement. King Solomon reminded us of this principle when he wrote in Proverbs 3, 5 through 6, these words, trust in the Lord with all your heart. Trust, you notice that, that's faith. And don't lean to your own understanding, that's you trying to figure out what's going on because God has a plan, you might not understand it. In all your ways acknowledge him, that's everything you do, and he will direct your path. Those are divine promises. If you will trust in him, And if you will avoid trying to figure things out on your own and acknowledge that he's in control, he will direct your path. These key words, trust and heart, indicate the Christian life is based on something you learn, something you have to learn. and that having faith in that information, you have to learn and have faith in the information. You cannot trust in what you don't know, can you? So in the book of Romans, Paul instructs believers in Rome to do this. He said in Romans 13, 14, dealing with occupation with Christ, he told them, put on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the flesh to fulfill its lust. Learning to replicate the thinking of the Lord Jesus Christ is what we do if we are to be occupied with Christ. Again, Hebrews 12.2, fix your eyes on Jesus Christ. And Romans 13.14, put on the Lord Jesus Christ. So we have to learn to think like Christ thought and replicate his lifestyle to be occupied with Christ. The actual mechanics of For doing this is found in Philippians 2.5. Let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus. So if we're to live as he lived and think as he thought, we have to learn to obey Philippians 2.5. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus. This means you have to watch out how you think, because this is where all your spiritual life is lived, in your brain. Your soul is in your brain. It's your mentality, your volition, your consciousness, your self-consciousness. That's where everything starts. The Bible says, if a man thinketh in his heart, so as he is. As a man thinks in his heart, so he is. The real you is what you think. So in this passage in Philippians says, let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus. The Greek word for the word mind in this passage is phroneo. Normally it would be nous, N-O-U-S. That's the normal Greek word for mind. And the Greek word for heart is cardia. But in this passage is phroneo, P-H-R-O-N-E-O. And that word means let your mindset, your mindset, your order of thinking, In other words, in order for us to be occupied with Jesus Christ, we must set our thinking after the standard that he set while he was here on this planet. Now don't forget this, he is undiminished deity, true humanity, the God-man in one body forever. He was God and he was man in one body and it will be forever. So as God, he was certainly omniscient, yes, but as man, he was required to learn and think the very things God prepared for him, his father. So the same is true for us. We're not God men, we're just men or women, but the same is true for us. We must learn to have the mindset of the Lord Jesus Christ if we're ever going to replicate his decision-making process and as a result, represent him by our lifestyle. The lifestyle of the believer is based on personal love for the Savior. This is occupation with Christ again. Ephesians 3.19, to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge so that you may be filled with the fullness of God. This is the love we have to come to understand. The Greek word for knowledge here is the word gnosis, G-N-O-S-I-S. Knowledge is the Greek word gnosis. But this type of knowledge is an understanding only, not an application. There is another word for knowledge used in the Bible and it's pronounced epi-gnosis. And it's the word gnosis with a preposition epi in front of it, which is full, full knowledge. So this virtue-based love, a full knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ, is not only to be understood but to be applied. We must understand that occupation with the Lord Jesus Christ, and get this now, is a love-driven attitude. Again, Ephesians 3.19, to know the love of Christ, which passes understanding so that you and I may be filled with the fullness of God. This occupation with Christ, again, is a love-driven attitude. And occupation with Christ is personal love for the Lord Jesus Christ. And that's an amazing thing. Now, it's not an emotional thing. Personal love for the Lord Jesus Christ. And how does that come? It comes through the maximum learning or what I call metabolized or scripture, learning of scripture circulating in your stream of consciousness. That's where all your thoughts are. That's where all your thinking is. And the only way you can do that is by the filling of the Holy Spirit. So I'm going to try to rephrase that. Hope you'll get it. Listen carefully. Occupation with Christ is personal love for the Lord Jesus Christ because you have maximum amount of scripture circulating in your brain from the filling of the Holy Spirit. In 1 Peter 1.8, Peter wrote these words about occupation with Christ. He said, even though you haven't seen him, you love him. Well, that's exactly what Paul said. We need to know the love of Christ. Even though you haven't seen him, you love him. That means you're occupied with Christ. And though you don't see him now, but you believe in him and you greatly rejoice with inexpressible happiness full of glory. Any individual who loves the Lord Jesus Christ and makes a role model out of him. These are the type believers that have true happiness and the type believers that are spiritually self-sustaining. But there are two mandates with regard to you being occupied with Christ in the scripture. Both of these we must understand and believe and apply into our life. In Hebrews 12, two, we see the word be concentrating on Jesus. Again, occupation with Christ. Be concentrating on Jesus, the author and the perfecter of our doctrine, who because of the exhibited happiness he endured the cross, disregarded the shame, and sat down at the right hand of God. I don't know if you looked at what he just said. He endured the cross, disregarded the shame. This means that he used the problem-solving devices. He certainly was suffering. He certainly had shame, but he focused on the problem-solving devices, particularly on the faith restoration following his father's plan. And he suffered the shame. What does that mean? It means all of our sins were imputed to him on the cross. Every evil, wicked, nasty thing you and I have ever done was imputed to him on the cross. And after that happened, he sat down at the right hand of God, the Father in heaven, Hebrews 12. So mark that verse in your Bible and go back and read it again. Be concentrating on Jesus. the author and the perfecter of our doctrine. And then Peter wrote in 1 Peter 3.15, but sanctify, that means to set apart, it's more important than anything else, set apart the Lord Jesus Christ in your hearts. Sanctify, set apart is more important than anything else, the Lord Jesus Christ in your hearts. So God is now making a direct positive demand on your will. a direct positive demand on your volition for you to be occupied with Christ. I will tell you this, you cannot live an effective Christian life if you are not occupied with Christ. It's a mandate to be consistent in your spiritual growth and in the application of God's word to your life. You must be occupied with Christ. You will never live a successful Christian life, again I say it, until you are occupied with Christ. So having the thinking of the Lord Jesus Christ, as Philippians 2.5 told you, results in you being preoccupied with Christ rather than preoccupied with people, preoccupied with circumstances in your life. All of those things can be a distraction and discouragement, but you think on the Lord Jesus Christ. And when you're occupied with Christ, that eliminates all human viewpoint thinking. Thank goodness. It eliminates human viewpoint thinking. Human viewpoint, what is that? Well, it's different from divine viewpoint. The Lord Jesus Christ thought divine viewpoint. When the Bible says, let this mind be in you that was also in Christ Jesus, we're thinking divine viewpoint. What is your viewpoint? You can think scripture. You can think what Christ would have done. That's divine viewpoint. Or you can think human viewpoint. What is that? Well, that's you calling up one of your friends and saying, what do you think I should do, Bob? What do you think I should do, Jill? What do you think I should do? Instead of going to the scripture. Abby doesn't have the answer. Bob or Jill doesn't have the answer. The scriptures have the answer. And so occupation with Christ eliminates you going to other people for answers because that's just going to make you miserable and make you argue with everybody about everything. Human viewpoint holds an opinion about everything in life, and of course that's always intolerant of anyone else's opinion. Well, in my opinion, I think you ought to do this. When you hear that, it's time to run. What does the Bible say? What does the Scripture say? What did the Lord Jesus Christ, how did he handle it? That's occupation with Christ. If you don't know anything about him, how can you know what he did or how he handled it? So the key to the protocol plan of God, and that's what we call the Christian life, the protocol plan of God, and what I mean by that is the right thing has to be done in the right way. You're a Christian, you believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, and you think you're living the Christian life, but if you don't do the right thing in the right way, you're gonna find out at the judgment seat of Christ that a lot of what you did is just wood, hay, and stubble. and would be burned up and never glorified God to begin with. You must learn the protocol plan of God. And I'll confidently tell you it's learning those 10 problem-solving devices and living by them. So the key to the protocol plan of God is that you no longer live for yourself, but if you're occupied with Christ, now you live for the Lord Jesus Christ. and God does all the work. The only way that you could ever have a marvelous, wonderful, full spiritual life is to no longer live for yourself. Once you have occupation with Christ, then you're living for Christ, and you are happier than you've ever been when you live for yourself. Isn't it amazing? Our fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ comes from learning God's Word. And it's infinitely more important than our fellowship with the neighbor across the street, or our fellowship with our friend that we like to hunt or fish with, or our girlfriend that we like to go shopping with, whatever. Your fellowship with Christ comes from learning the Word. So if you're filled with the Holy Spirit, which is a mandate, Ephesians 3.18, And if you're living by the word of God, learning and applying the word of God in your life, then you have wonderful, wonderful fellowship with the Lord Jesus Christ. And that's synonymous with being occupied with Christ. Being in fellowship with Christ is synonymous with being occupied with Christ. That is part of God's will for you, part of God's plan for you. It's the purpose for your life. Christian fellowship with other Christians is never a substitute for occupation with the Lord Jesus Christ. That's your primary goal in the protocol plan of law, to be God, to be occupied with Christ. Where do I get that? Well, Psalm 128 verse one. Happiness is everyone who fears the Lord. I'll kind of make it a different way. I'll say it to you like this. Blessed or happiness is everyone, that's any believer, who fears with the Lord, or is occupied with the Lord, who respects the Lord. And then in Philippians 1.21, for me, living is Christ, dying is profit. That's Paul the Apostle saying. You think he was happy? Yeah. Living is occupation with Christ, and dying is great, tremendous profit. Don't forget our Lord was the God-man. He was undiminished deity and true humanity all wrapped up in one body forever. So if you wish to be occupied with Christ, not only does this include personal love for God-man, but also appreciation and respect for the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God. He lived as we lived in a human body, He used the same problem-solving devices we use in his human body, with the exception of two. He did not have to rebound or confess any sin, and he did not have to be occupied with Christ. Those are two special things we do. But he lived just like you live, just like I live. And we learn from how he handled those situations. So being occupied with Christ, it's not us living an emotionally charged life, running around singing, oh how I love Jesus, and raising our hands, and is Jesus willing, Jesus. I get so frustrated with hearing people Call him by his first name. This is the Lord Jesus Christ, the anointed son of God. Somehow or another, people seem to say, oh Jesus, oh Jesus. Don't do that. If you want to talk to him, it's the Lord Jesus Christ, the anointed son of God. Give him the respect he deserves. So if we want to live the occupation with Christ, Avoiding the taboos in this world, you know, like don't drink, don't smoke, don't dance, don't go to movies unless they're G-rated, calling everybody brother, calling everybody sister, wearing a bracelet that says, what would Jesus do? That's not occupation with Christ. That may be something Christians do, but that's not occupation with Christ. Occupation with Christ is learning to think like he thought when he was here as a man. Occupation with Christ is tapping into the same resources that he used when he was here as a man. That's why he did it so you could follow his example. Our Lord had to learn scripture, just like you. He had to recognize his destiny, just like you. He had to stay filled with the Holy Spirit just like you. In fact, he himself lived a prototype spiritual life and demonstrated that to us. He was the first person to live what we call the Christian life. So being occupied with Christ is us replicating his lifestyle. his thinking, and we actually become Christ-like so that when other people see us, they see the Lord Jesus Christ in us. That's what occupation with Christ is all about. Representing Jesus Christ is an awesome responsibility. Why? Because what John wrote in John 12, 32, if I am lifted up, I will draw men to myself. You and I must always be ready to answer anyone who asks us, why are we so confident in our eternal security? I'm gonna ask you a question. Can you clearly give the gospel to someone? Do you understand what it takes to be saved? If someone says, I'm not sure if I'm saved, do you know where the Bible says these things are written so that you might know that you have eternal life? Yes, you can know it. Yes, you can be sure about it. Can you yourself clearly give the gospel message to somebody? Dealing with the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ? Do you understand what he went through on the cross to pay for our sins? And do you have the courage to speak up on his behalf when the opportunity comes around? I hope so. In 1 Peter 3, verse 15, we find these words. But sanctify, that's set apart, the Lord God in your hearts. and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you for a reason of the hope that you have, along with meekness and respect. So set apart the Lord Jesus Christ in your hearts, in the thinking of your soul, and always be ready to give a defense. Now what do I mean set apart? Well, we've already studied that. We already went through that in some of those previous verses that we looked at. And where Hebrews 12 too, be concentrating on Christ. And earlier in the passage, let this mind be in you as in Jesus Christ. And Romans 13, 14, put on the Lord Jesus Christ. We went through all of that. If you didn't get it, contact me and we'll send you the transcript of the message. But you need to understand that. Sanctify the Lord in your heart and always be ready to give a defense. to everyone or anyone who asks a reason why you have this sort of confidence with meekness and fear. You and I possess a great treasure, a treasure the world doesn't have. I mean, you don't have to win the lottery to be rich. You're already rich. Did you know that? We possess a great treasure. In 2 Corinthians 4, 7, but we have this treasure in our earthly vessels. that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. We have this treasure in our earthly vessel. So you have a treasure in your body. Now here's the key. The word treasure is the English word thesaurus, thesaurus. The treasure that Paul talks about is a word treasure. The word treasure in our earthly vessels, that means in your brain, you have the scriptures, the divine viewpoint of the Lord Jesus Christ, and so the excellence can be from God and not of yourself. Divine viewpoint, not human viewpoint. That word treasure, again, in the pages of Scripture, we find everything we need to know about our Lord and our relationship with Him. And you will never be occupied with Christ until you do that, until you learn the Scriptures, until you learn how He uses Scripture, until you learn to live like He lived and replicate His lifestyle. Why? Because your life does not belong to you anymore. You were bought and paid for with a price. And that was the Lord Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross. Galatians 2.20, if you're a Christian, listen to this verse that Paul wrote. Having been crucified with Christ, it's no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. That's occupation with Christ. And the life which I now live in my flesh is I live based on faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me. So, I've been purchased. My life has been paid for. The Lord Jesus Christ went to the cross, took my place, paid my penalty, and set me free. If any man's in Christ, he's a new creation. Old things are passed away and all things become new. That's your second birthday. You've heard me say before that you're gonna be born twice or die twice. Your first birthday, you didn't have anything to do with that. You just showed up one day. But the second birthday is all about you believing in the Lord Jesus Christ and being born again. So in closing, allow me to remind you that occupation with the Lord Jesus Christ is maximum personal love, maximum personal devotion, and personal respect for our Savior. Are you having an intense concentration on Him every waking hour of your life? Not that you're weird, not that you run around acting weird, but that you know enough of the Word of God to apply the same things he applied, to live by the same principles he lived by, which is the protocol plan of God, and always being ready to lift him up and speak on his behalf so that he can draw people to himself. That's what he'll do. If you will glorify the Lord Jesus Christ, he will draw people to himself. So I hope you've learned something about this. We've been over all 10 of those unique problem-solving devices. We have a book called Christian Problem Solving. If you don't know it yet, write to me. Go to my website, rickhughesministries.org, rickhughesministries.org, and request that book, Christian Problem Solving. We'll send it to you immediately. And it will go back over all 10 of these unique problem-solving devices. So that concludes our review of the FLOT line, F-L-O-T, FLOT line, forward line of troops, 10 unique problem-solving devices. And next week, we'll move on into a different subject. But I thank you for listening. I thank you for giving me a few minutes of your time. Again, if you need this in a written transcript, let us know. Until next week, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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This week on Rush to Reason, we uncover the real worth of gold and precious family treasures. David Gonzalez provides insider knowledge on navigating the complex world of gold and coin appraisal, while also offering tips on estate planning. Whether you're holding onto a collection or contemplating family inheritance, this episode is packed with advice to help you make informed decisions about turning heirlooms into cash, all within a secure and trusted environment.
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All right. Welcome, everybody. Happy Monday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And another week is upon us, and we aren't here on May the 4th because that was yesterday. Normally, you would say May the 4th be with you, but that was yesterday. So today is Cinco de Mayo. David Gonzalez joining us now on Mile High Coin. David, welcome. Thanks, John. Good to be here. Gold 3341 an ounce.
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Goodness gracious. It is just – it is a bucking bronco right now. Up $100 one day, down $150 the next, and – But yes, it is very, very high.
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Which is up a couple hundred bucks from when I had John last month.
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It is. It is very, very close to the all-time high. So crazy, crazy times right now.
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Meaning for a lot of you listening, of course, David's from, as I said, my high coin. And I talk a lot about David even when he's not here. Those of you that, you know, we went through ours, so we're getting ready to see you. Because we, between, you know, wife and I, and just stuff that you just start accumulating. So we're both sort of going through the... You know, the jewelry box and different things. And, you know, you get things passed from, you know, this, you know, air. And, you know, you just accumulate, especially as we get older. You end up with more and more of this sort of stuff. And so both, you know, wife and I are like, okay, you know, what items do we really use versus not? not using because we're just going to sit this thing in the jewelry box and do you know do nothing with it you know why what's the value let's you know let's start figuring out some of these things and so on so we're we're starting to do what i'm recommending to folks out there do and that is if you've got this stuff kicking around at 33 41 an ounce why are you leaving that in the jewelry box
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Yeah, absolutely. The other thing I would say, too, is perhaps you have some aging parents that may be passing away at some point in the future, maybe not the near future. But it's always good to take care of that stuff, especially from the person who, for example, who built the coin collection. That person's going to know about it. They're going to have good insight. So maybe it's not so much that you're ready to sell that collection just yet, but you want to start building a relationship, figure out what you have, kind of what approximate values are so that when the time comes, you're ready to sell. you know, make a move. You've figured out who you want to work with. The other thing too, is I find is a lot of people are grossly underinsured. So they have a coin collection that they have really no idea. They have no idea it's worth a hundred thousand dollars. Great point. And it's very important that you protect that, even, again, if you're not quite ready to sell.
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And, by the way, when you start looking at that, for some of you that may end up with something along those lines, and then you start doing the math on, okay, wait a minute, I've got this collection that's worth X. Let's use the $100K, for example. And, yes, I need to ensure that. Although now the insurance costs are going to be X to do so. That needs to go into the equation as well. And maybe it is a point in time where it's just better to cash out of it. Indeed.
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Yeah. And oftentimes, you know, when somebody brings one of those collections in and they figure out that it's worth real money. They start evaluating, am I really into this? Maybe that was something that they put a lot of hours, a lot of time, a lot of money into early on, but in the last 10 years they haven't. And then I had something come up recently where The lady said, you know, instead of giving the grandkids money after I die, I'd like to give it to them now. That way I could see them enjoy it. And so they were kind of motivated, you know, to move that collection just based on, you know, wanting to wanting to see their their kids prosper now versus who knows how long it would be before they would end up with the proceeds from that collection.
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Well, and you know this as well. And for those of you that are out there listening, I won't give direct numbers because you need to go check this on your own. But there is a certain amount you can give to the kids tax-free where nobody is having to claim anything on that you or them. And in some cases, something else to think about with what David said a moment ago, I was just thinking about as well, some elderly parents and things along those lines. You know, the thing to also think about is, you know, what's mom, dad's total estate worth? What are things looking at along those lines? Are either one of them going to need any kind of long-term care? And if that's the case, you may want to go ahead and start converting some of these things into cash now versus later. Start putting some of those funds together so as those needs arise, you're not scrambling last minute. It's sort of like, David, I always recommend people when it comes to cars and things like that, just in general, by the way, never buy something when you need it. Only buy when you don't. I mean, you may know it's coming up, but my point is don't buy in an emergency situation. Well, similar thing here. If you know mom and dad might be needing some things down the road, some care, something along those lines, rather than scrambling around when you now have to write a check to whoever it is that's going to be doing the care and so on and trying to scramble around and round up money immediately, get all of that done ahead of time because now you've got time to process all of that and determine exactly what your best deal is. Indeed.
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Yeah, and another thing that comes up, too, is let's say somebody is liquidating a collection. Sometimes they're hung up because they can't establish a cost basis. So there may be some tax consequences to liquidating it. And that's a service that we offer, and we don't charge to do that. Now, if you come to us and you're not liquidating the collection, there may be a small charge to that. But for somebody who's working with a collection with us, we'll do that cost basis work at no charge.
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Okay.
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So helping you figure out, okay, did you buy it? What year approximate? Then I can go and do some research, figure out what the price of gold, what the price of silver was, and then put those numbers together for you.
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Is there a limit to things you can't do, in other words, value-wise? If somebody's out listening and they've been doing this for years and years and years and they've got a million bucks or more of things that they've acquired, is there a limit to what you can help with?
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No, not really. It's just time. You know, it's just kind of figuring out what they have. And, you know, every collection is different. You know, it's, you know, obviously some are more value, less value, more intricate, more numismatics or high grade rare coins. And, you know, sometimes people just have straight bullion, Krugerrands, Maple Leafs, American Gold Eagles, that kind of thing. So, yeah, just give us a call. You know, we're happy to kind of walk you through that and figure out, you know, how complicated it would be and what would be a good strategy to go about that.
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And for those of you listening, it's not just coins and things like this. It can be coins, jewelry, watches, anything along those lines, right?
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Yeah, we really like working with the watches. So if you've got really the high-end stuff, the low-end stuff, we're very, very good with the Rolexes, the Patek Philips, the Omegas, that kind of thing. In fact, we are expanding our watch side of the business right now. So, yeah, bring it in. We'd be happy to look at it, go through it with you, and yeah.
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Okay. And then also, a question I had for you was, because people maybe don't even realize, you know, how much they have. And I get it. You can get a little scale, even a food scale, and throw all your gold on there and start doing some measurements and so on. But on average, you know, you take the average type, you know, pendant and necklace that goes with it, and let's say it is, in fact, you know, real gold. It's not some fool's gold or anything, but it actually is, you know, real gold. It's not plated. It's actual real gold. On average, weight-wise, what does that typically come out to be?
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And I know it varies a lot. Yeah, very much so. But let me say this. First off, we'll help you identify what is it. Is it 10 karat? Is it 14 karat? Is it 18 karat? How pure is it? And men's rings are obviously more valuable because we wear bigger rings. But I will say this, that people are floored more often than not when they bring in a little baggie of this, that, or the other. And, you know, I have to pick people up off the ground every once in a while because they're like, how much? You know, how much really? You know, and that $3,000, you know, $3,400 an ounce. It doesn't take a lot, does it? It does not.
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I mean, sometimes people... I mean, an ounce, if you think about it, an ounce doesn't weigh...
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a lot that's 31.2 grams it's i mean we you know you throw that number on you think ounce and if you think about an ounce coin and how how that you know what size that is it's not as big as most people would think in their mind yeah and gold gold is a very dense metal so when you hold gold in the palm of your hand you know it um but again uh you know bring that stuff in let's go through it even if you're not quite ready um you know just to figure out what you have but yes a little bit of gold goes a really, really long way in terms of putting a few bucks in your pocket for sure.
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The other thing I was going to throw at some of you listening, too, that might have elderly parents, and this might be something just to think about family-wise, where, hey, mom and dad, maybe they are at that point where you guys are just trying to make decisions as a family and so on. But maybe mom and dad are still in good shape and they can travel and do some things and so on. But maybe the cash sides of things maybe has been hindering them from doing maybe that last big cruise or something along those lines. Well, you know, you may have enough of this kicking around the house that you could turn that to cash and all still go half. And here's my point with that. you all taking a family cruise type fun event will be far more memorable for all of you on down the road than any of that jewelry will ever be i'm sorry to say but that's just how that works david indeed yeah no i i think that's a great idea to enjoy but you know sometimes again people just don't know the value of what they don't think it's there wait a minute i didn't know that there was eight ten thousand dollars no no offense the kids may not even know what all's there
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Indeed.
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So this is where you have to sort of – for those of you that are listening where it's not even mom and dad listening, but you may be one of the kids' siblings, you may be needing to sort of prod this along a little bit and say, hey, mom and dad, by the way, what all is in the jewelry box and kicking around? I mean, you don't wear a lot of it anymore. In fact, as a society, David, most people don't even wear the amount of jewelry that a lot of folks did in the 40s and 50s and 60s, and you get where I'm going with that.
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Absolutely.
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Unless you're some big – Gold chain celebrity, you know, most don't wear the amount of jewelry that they used to. So some of that stuff does just sit in a box over time. And, you know, mom and dad might have a lot more sitting in there than you ever realized.
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Yeah. And that's very true with the watches as well. We don't need the watches.
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No, we don't.
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We carry cell phones.
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And even smart watches like I'm wearing and you are. I mean, even I'm a watch guy. I wear a smart watch the majority of the time. I have not seen the Rolex that tracks my steps yet. Yeah, not yet. Yeah. Well, probably not, because I don't think that's the thing that they will ever get into for obvious reasons. But, no, great point. Again, folks, those of you listening, Mile High Coin. David would love to sit down and chat with you. It's a very, how should I say this, David, secure. It's a solid environment. You're not walking into a pawn shop or those all sorts of other nefarious individuals running around that might be overlooking your shoulder and so on. That's not the environment at all. This is a one-on-one appointment that you do it.
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You'll be coming into our conference room. It's very pleasant. We've never, ever had a complaint. We have more positive Google ratings than any coin company in Colorado. Yeah, you'll come into the conference room. We'll have a conversation. And people sell when they're ready to sell.
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Right.
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You know, we deal with a lot of estates. So, you know, sometimes there's three, four, five siblings. There's attorneys. There's accountants. Right. So come in. We'll figure out what you have. And, you know, we'll just kind of take it one step at a time. Okay.
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For those of you listening, 720-370-3400. You can also go to RushToReason.com, KLZRadio.com. Either way, find David that way as well. But give him a call. Round up what you've got. Set an appointment and figure out what you want to do next. Thanks, John. David, always a pleasure. I'll get my stuff. I'm doing the same thing. Sounds good. I'll be seeing you shortly. David Gonzalez, again, Mile High Coin. And Charlie, can we switch that around really quick and just put him next since he's coming up here in this block anyways, and we'll just do that. So, again, Mile High Coin, 720-370-3400. And David Gonzalez, just give him a call. He'll make an appointment. You guys can sit down, chat, and get things dialed in. So he is next, Mile High Coin.
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People often receive a collection after the passing of a loved one and trusting someone with that collection can be difficult. This is David Gonzalez at Mile High Coin and with 37 years of experience in the precious metals and coin industry, I guarantee that you will be pleased with our process regardless of whether or not you choose to sell your collection. We are highly trusted and highly rated. We will take the time to help you understand what type of collection you have as well as its value. Our goal is to educate you so that you can make an informed decision. At Mile High Coin, we understand the various situations which may have brought you to the place of needing or wanting to sell your collection. I appreciate the importance of right timing, so I will never pressure you to sell. People sell when they're ready to sell. Oftentimes, there are estate planning issues that involve multiple family members and attorneys, and we can provide information needed to assist in that process. A coin or jewelry collection can be a burden, and we are here to simplify something that can be quite complicated. We offer a no-charge... complimentary evaluation and appraisal for all of our KLZ listeners, even if you're not quite ready to liquidate. Call us today at 720-370-3400 or visit our website milehighcoin.com to get more information. We look forward to meeting you and seeing your collection.
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All right, we are back. Question of the day from Friday. Name the animal whose tongue can weigh as much as an elephant. That would be the blue whale. And today's impossible question is who wrote Critique of Pure Reason? Who wrote Critique of Pure Reason? of pure reason. Again, I want to thank David for coming in again, David Gonzalez. I had a text message from somebody a moment ago talking about the very thing we were talking about in regards to folks and collections and so on. In this particular case, this texter was saying that they had went through things even after things had kind of been dispersed from their dad and found another $40,000 worth worth of coins and things like that after things had already been kind of dispersed out to the kids so yes very important to get these things done and appraised and handled on the front side that's a great example thank you by the way for texting that in because that's exactly the things we're talking about with david just a few minutes ago so get that stuff dialed in sooner than later all right and other changes May 7th, so Wednesday, if you are traveling, this is a PSA. It's been all over the news, so you've probably already heard it. But as a reminder, if you are going to travel, all... Not just certain ones, but all TSA checkpoints will now be requiring you to have real ID. I've talked about this a little bit on the National Crawford Roundtable. Bob Duco and I did. And I frankly don't have a problem with real ID. Now, a lot of folks I think do. And there's even some conservatives out there that are, you know, this is too big brotherish and, and, and, and, and. I don't see it that way. I look at this more of this is a way to protect not only your identity, but as we get down the road and might have, as in the case of I believe Wyoming now has passed a law whereby ID will be required to vote. I want things to be less duplicatable. So that's why I don't have a problem with Real ID. Real ID is making licenses less duplicable, less fakes running around, in other words. Much like they've done different things with our dollars, with our currency, dollar bills, $100 bills especially, but even 20s. The reason why they do that is to make them harder to counterfeit. Real ID is also a way to help the counterfeiting, if you would, of identification. And as we go to where those of us, myself... who want people to identify themselves before they vote. In other words, I want voter ID. I am a proponent of, you guys have heard me talk about that numerous times, and no, it's not discriminatory in any way, shape, or form. We use ID for all sorts of other things, including flying. So why is it so hard to use that to vote? It isn't. But there's a particular party out there that says it's discriminatory when, in fact, it's not. So my point is, if we're going to require and hopefully get more and more states on board with voter ID, I want those IDs to be less duplicatable, less fakes. That make sense to everybody, I hope? So that's why I don't – this is not a problem for me. Even though there's a lot of conservatives that don't want it, and this Real ID thing has been kicked down the road. That can's been kicked down the road for a very, very long time. I believed it was first pass. Charlie, don't quote me on this, but I think like 05 or 06 or – it's a long time. I think 20 years almost they've kicked this can down the road. So it's now come to fruition starting May 7th, which is Wednesday. For you to travel anywhere, you need to make sure that you've got a real ID. Now, Colorado's been doing real ID now for quite some time. And even though some will say, well, it's hard to get a real ID, a real ID ID. No, it's not. No, it's not. In fact, here in Colorado, the last time I renewed my ID, I don't believe I had to give them any other proof of anything, citizenship or otherwise. The ID that I got was the new ID. It just came that way. My wife, same situation. We both have real IDs because as they renewed, that's just what automatically came. Now, I do think that as you get an ID on the front side, there's going to be more verification of who you are versus how it's been in the past. Again, all the more reason why I'm in favor of this. And I get it. There's going to be some conservatives out there that look at this as too Big Brother-ish. I'm not one of those, mainly because I want some of the other things that we just mentioned earlier when it comes to voting and things along those lines. So I just want to throw that in. That's sort of a PSA. If you've been putting that off or you haven't checked your ID and you really haven't looked, but you've got a trip coming up. Now, here's the other thing. If you have a passport, this is something that they're not telling you, and it's something I wish they would add in. For those that may not have a real ID and have not had time to go and get one of those from your DMV, if you have a passport, that works as well. You can travel anywhere you want, even inside of the United States, with a passport only and no driver's license, and you're just fine. That passes as a government-issued ID. Not everybody has a passport is the issue. Some go there, my folks, I mean, they went their entire life never having one. Some people never get one. So if you have a passport, you don't really need real ID. You just need to make sure you take your passport with you when you travel. On the same token, if you've gotten real ID, you've received that already, you've gone through that process, there's no big deal. On the same token, though, if you don't have real ID nor have a passport... You will need to do something to make sure that you can fly because otherwise you will not be able to fly. They will not let you. Also, I read in my notes on this that if you have TSA pre-check, you will have to use a designated checkpoint. Otherwise, you have to go through this whole screening process. So those of you that have TSA pre-check, you kind of know what I mean by that. That's pretty easy. Okay. Something else I wanted to mention here as we roll in today, we've got another guest joining us here at 3.30, and it may come back to this particular topic. There's a lot of folk on the Internet. quote-unquote influencers. Some of you might even follow a gentleman by the name of, he goes by the name of Mr. Global. That's his handle on TikTok, YouTube, and other places. And Mr. Global predicted over the weekend that because OPEC is upping their production 400,000 barrels a day that we would see an oil collapse today and even a lot of folks in the oil industry without a job today. I predicted over the weekend Mr. Global would be dead wrong, even though he's a pretty sharp guy. He's dead wrong. That hasn't happened. Prices have come down to below $60 a barrel, but they've been hovering around there anyways. And Mr. Global has been completely wrong on this one. He's he's right on a lot of things, by the way, but he has been dead wrong when it comes to oil crashing. And I get again, I can get into more of that at a later time. Maybe as we get through the show, I'll get into a little bit more of that. But my point is, just because somebody is an influencer and claims to be a quote unquote expert doesn't mean they're they're all knowing. And the problem with Mr. Global is he's a total lefty. And he brings his leftist views into things at times where he should leave those on the sideline and think about things in a more rational way versus thinking about them from his political standpoint. Joe, what's going on?
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John, I understand you've got a guest coming on in two minutes. I'll make it quick. Misconceptions about real ID. Number one, you don't need to be a citizen to get a real ID. If you're here in a student visa, H-1B, married to a U.S., you know, you get a green card, you can get a real ID license. So it is not... Now, unfortunately... In some states like New Jersey, when I moved here, I gave them a Colorado license, which, by the way, I don't recall having to prove I was a citizen to get my Colorado license. And when I went to get my New Jersey license, on the application form, there was a little box in the bottom. Would you like to be automatically registered to vote in New Jersey? And then it says, if yes, would you like to affiliate with a particular political party? You had yes, no, other, whatever. So I became registered to vote in the state of New Jersey with zero proof of citizenship in this country.
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Yep. All because you were there to get a license.
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Just because. And that's a common thing. Would you like to be registered to vote?
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Right.
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Now, I don't know how many states now ask for proof of citizenships, but I know at least in New Jersey.
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Depends on the color of the state, Joe.
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Yeah, color of the state. I'm serious.
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Are you blue or red? That's really what it boils down to.
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Right. But anyway, but you don't need to be a citizen to get it. People say, well, if you have a real ID, that means you're a citizen. No, it doesn't.
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It's an identification thing is all it is.
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It's all it is and doesn't mean you're a citizen. That's right.
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So it shouldn't be used for voter registration. There you go. Joe, appreciate you very much. Yep. Take care, man. Have a great rest of your day. Dr. Scott coming up next, by the way, Dr. Scott Faulkner. Scott, by the way, is there to help you. He hosted for me while I was gone. A great doctor. He is not beholden to big pharma or big insurance, as I talk about a lot. And you hear him talk about the things that he does in his practice. And he's got things that no one else is doing in the medical world, from his hyperbaric chamber to umbilical-derived stem cells to on down the line we go. Scott is there to help you, and he would love to be your doctor. 303-663-6990.
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All right. One thing, too. You guys are texting in. A lot to do with David from MahiCoin on different things that have happened inside of your own family and so on, which I appreciate, by the way. And... One thing that somebody made mention of, which I mean, I really hadn't thought much about it. And maybe some of you haven't either. This was a particular situation where a family member had a lot of older belt buckles that had been won for various things. Must have been a rodeo person or something along those lines, of course. And some of the belt buckles actually were very valuable. They had a lot of gold and silver in them, making them, in this case, worth a solid five-digit figure. In other words, these things were definitely worth looking at, getting appraised, finding out exactly what the value was, and so on. So, again, those are the sorts of things where... If you've got those kicking around the house and you're thinking, hey, maybe there's some value here and we should check this out and determine what it is and then determine what you want to do from that point forward, a great way for a lot of you that are out there looking at this end of things, estate-wise, family-wise, and so on, yes, definitely get together with David and get that figured out. Okay, back really quick because I've got some time now. We're waiting for our guest. He may or may not show. We'll see how that goes. Either way, I've always got plenty to talk about. On the oil price end of things. Mr. Global. who, by the way, I watch periodically. I don't follow him because his politics and I do not agree, and he gets off on these tangents at times that, I hate to say this, ruin his credibility because he brings too many politics into what he talks about factually speaking when it comes to gas and oil, and he's a big global warming guy, which, again, when you start going down that path, the other day he had a video out talking about we've got to get to net zero, which there's No such thing. And he's a smart guy. When it comes to gas and oil, some of those things, he's a pretty smart individual. When people start talking about net zero, it's non-achievable. There is no such thing. And I've talked about that before on this program, and some of you even texted in and tried to argue with me on that. Folks, there's no argument there. There is no such thing as net zero. And some of you that have argued with me, some of you on the left that have argued with me, talk about credits and offsets and things like that. Folks, you can't use that. There is no such thing as net zero. When it comes to what's put into the environment, there is no net zero. So anybody that talks that way, right off the bat, I have to discredit them because they have no idea what they're talking about. They haven't thought through the whole process. Even Mr. Global, who is a petroleum expert, hasn't thought through it because there is no such thing. Every single thing that gets made requires energy, typically in the form of petroleum, to get built. And I don't think we'll ever get to a day and age – in my lifetime anyways, maybe beyond my lifetime, maybe some big discovery will come along in the next 25, 30 years that will change that, but I highly doubt it. And here's the reason why I highly doubt it. Oil is still one of the most reliable and cheapest things we have to use to make our lives better and to keep the world running. And I know people on the left hate hearing that. But that's the reality. It is one of the easiest, literally cleanest, cheapest things we have to keep the world propelled and moving forward. As much as even folks in the petroleum world like Mr. Global don't want to admit, that's the reality. And so somebody that would come along and say, we have to achieve net zero when it comes to what we're putting out into the climate, into the atmosphere. Okay, so you're doing that by, what, wind and solar and other sorts of things that, you know, other types of alternative energies that might enable to power things. But, again, the thing that they all forget, even Mr. Global, is you need oil to make those. Without petroleum, those things don't get made initially. Even as clean as nuclear is, which, yes, I love nuclear as well. You guys all that have listened to me any length of time, we've missed the boat on that. We should have been powering this entire country right now off of nuclear. Maybe not the only form of electricity, but you could have made it a major, major carrier of the grid in America had we done that and should have done that. Even it takes petroleum to make happen. And what I mean by that is you have to have trucks and all sorts of things to get the plant built in the first place. And even after it's built, there's a lot of maintenance that's required that involves people to be there, that people involve oil to get them there, and even things inside of the plant, the plastics and things like that, the electronics, and on and on and on we go. All of it, the concrete that it takes to even build those places, all of it requires petroleum. You're not getting away from it. Even the cleanest form of energy, nuclear, requires petroleum to get it online and complete it and maintain. That's the other thing, too, that the left will never talk about is these things don't just get built and left. Even solar panels, even a wind farm, they don't get built and left. They all require maintenance. And in the case of a wind generator, a windmill, they have got tons of petroleum products inside of said windmill that keep things lubricated and cooled and so on. You'll never hear any of that from the left, by the way. All they'll tell you and tout to you is how much it's saving. At the end of the day, it's not. It's not. The average windmill, by the time it even comes close to breaking even, is seven years. So if that windmill lasts 10, 12 years, which, by the way, the life expectancy isn't much more than that, you might actually have some positive gain in year seven. If I'm wrong on that, please give me the data. Please back it up. Just don't spout it off. Just don't text me and tell me that I'm wrong. I want proof. And by the way, I've looked for that proof. And here's the other problem that the wind, you know, the solar and wind generation end of things have. Their data sucks. Their data sucks because they don't include a lot of the things that I just talked about. How much concrete does it take to put the actual windmill up? Same thing with the solar farm. What does it take to actually build them from the ground up? How much petroleum is being used from day one? From the very minute you start the design of said project, how much petroleum is being used? None of them factor that in. And if somebody listening can find one that includes that, I would love to see it. Because every single study I've ever run, they exclude that conveniently, by the way. Conveniently. Every Harvard-type study that goes into talking about what you save with wind and solar, they never include what I just talked about. And again, I say conveniently, because if they did, it would blow their formulas out of the water. So they don't include it. If you want data to prove something, exclude certain things that disprove your theory, your synopsis, and off you go. And that's what they do. I put a challenge out 20 years ago on Drive Radio. Maybe even longer than 20 years ago. all the way when I was over on another station that I won't mention, not here on KLZ. And I challenged anybody at that time to prove to me, because Priuses were coming out, and that was a big deal at that time, and people were talking about the savings that they would have and how good it was for the environment and blah, blah, blah. And they were touting that. Toyota even touting that as one of their marketing things with that particular car. And I said at the time that you could take your 15-mile-to-the-gallon F-250 – And drive it for the rest of your life and not use the amount of oil that it takes to even build the Prius in the first place. Not counting the battery, the mining of what it takes to get the ingredients into the battery and so on. I'm just talking the sheer car itself and what it takes to build said car. You could literally drive that F-250 the remainder of your and its life and not use what it takes to build that one Prius. And I challenged anybody to prove me wrong. 20 plus years ago, no one has yet. Again, because nobody equates what I'm talking about in regards to how the item gets built in the first place and the amount of oil that that takes. They never factor that in. All they talk about is, well, the Prius will save this much per gallon on fuel or this much fuel over its lifetime and blah, blah, blah. And there's where the savings is. That's not how it works, folks. I mean, it is to them, but that's not how it works in real life. Because the item has to still get built. And the item can't get built without petroleum, without the gas and oil industry. It's that simple. So I could be completely wrong. Maybe there'll be some huge advancement that will come along before I die. I'm 60. If I live to be 90, what's that, 30 more years? I highly doubt in 30 years much changes in this world in that regard. And the reason I say that is because we're getting more efficient at how we use petroleum products... It does still power the world. That will not change. There's a certain amount of things we just have to have when it comes to lightweight materials, plastics, composites, and so on. And all of that comes from petroleum. And on top of that, we power our vehicles with it. And it's been proven over and over and over again. Even as much as EVs are fun to drive and they're great and there's a thrill there and so on, they do not replace a gas or diesel engine vehicle. Not for the practicality of things they do not. Period. Period. Yes, I get short trips, people around town and so on. EVs might be great. They're fun. It's an exhilaration to drive all of that. I'm driving a test car this week, a Lexus. It's not an RX. It's a version of an RX, only it's all electric. Don't quote me on this because I don't have the paperwork in front of me, and I just started driving it. But it's their little RX series, only it's all electric. And I will tell you, is it fun? Is it nice? Is it a good car and all of that? Yeah. Its range sucks. I'll talk about that in my review next week, but the range on it is not good. At any rate, will EVs completely replace the gas and diesel-powered vehicle? No, I said that from day one, and I own one. I can attest to this. I know how they work. I know the limitations of them. And the problem is we had too many politicians, too many lefties pushing them, and you can't push products on people. That doesn't work. Not in a quote-unquote free market here in America, that doesn't work. Government should stay out of it, and when they try to get into it, all they do is screw it up, and that's what they did with EVs. And this is the sad part of EVs, because I'm not against EVs, as you guys all know. I think they serve a purpose for certain people. Unfortunately, because of government interference... and so many people getting soured on them, government actually is going to drive sales down, not up. And I said that from day one. They will hurt EV sales, not help them. And again, some folks might argue with me on that, but prove I'm wrong. You can't. If government had gotten out of the way and just let the free market decide whether they want EVs or not and which ones they want and how many of them they want and how fast do they want them and so on, they would have sold. And they'd still sell. But when government interferes and tries to shove them down your throat and make it a mandate, it doesn't work. And it's something in Colorado that's going to have to be considered, by the way, with the next governorship and how that's being run, because Polos will be going out. And the next governor on our side needs to run on changing some of that around, not mandating certain things as a state, but letting the free market take its course. Again, something that you're not really hearing on our side that we should be. That's a whole other conversation for another day that, you know, maybe even Andy and I can get into. But those are talking points that our next governor on our side needs to be talking about. Letting things flow the way they should be naturally and not trying to force feed them. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning coming up next. One thing is for sure, if you've got any problems at all with your HVAC or AC system, please give, which that includes your HVAC system. If you've got any problems at all, please give Cub Creek a call today. Find them at klzradio.com.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe sent me this, but I'd seen a little bit on this as well. coinciding with what I was talking about in regards to oil and different things along those lines. Another global warming prediction bites the dust. A new report based upon satellite data. showed that from 2001 to 2023, the Antarctic ice sheet actually gained an average of 108 gigatons of new ice every year for the three-year period. But we've been told, by the way, that it's shrinking. We keep being told it's shrinking. Every year it shrinks, shrinks, shrinks, shrinks, shrinks. Going back to what I talked about when it comes to oil and all of that, The left, by the way, will never give up on this whole climate end of things because it's a money grab. They have gotten people so fearful of it and have figured out a way to extract dollars from individuals that it's not going away anytime soon. Remember, it went from global warming to climate change because it was proving that global warming wasn't as outlandish as what they all said. In fact, in certain situations, it may not have even warmed at all. Certain areas, it may be up half a degree or a degree when it's all said and done, which, by the way, in the grand scheme of things, is nothing. It's zilch. But they will not let that go because, again, it's a huge way of extrapolating dollars. And those that are in favor of it, you really need to go look at the money end of things and follow it and really determine, you know, why am I behind this? Do I really believe this is happening? Because when you start looking at. The money end of it and the data and things like what I just read to you about some of these reports that are out there that really disprove what a lot of climate change activists think. They're just flat dead wrong. Am I a climate denier? I'm a denier in the fact that I don't want to extract money from one person to another just because somebody thinks the temperature has gotten a little bit warmer. So in that regard, I guess you could say I'm a denier because it is not that big of a deal that we need to be extracting trillions upon trillions of dollars from folks and putting it towards things that are supposedly countering this when, in fact, it's doing nothing. And another thing I'll say is until you get the entire world, the entire world, China included, on board with cleaning up what they're doing, it doesn't make a hill of beans bit of difference what we as a country do. We have done more as a country, frankly, to clean up the environment than any other country has. And yet the predictions still are that nothing has changed. So, you know, rest my case on that end of things until the whole world gets behind this. And no, I'm not talking about the Paris Climate Accord and stupid things like that, because that's one of those things where, again, all we're doing is being, you know, extracted money as a country and funneling that into the Paris Climate Accord when other countries are not fulfilling what they should be doing. And again, as usual, we get left holding the bag. Something Trump right now is trying to change. One last thing, I may talk about this next hour, but there's a particular talk show host here in town, I will not name names, that for some odd reason thinks he's an expert on tariffs because he used to be on Wall Street. But unfortunately for this particular talk show host, he's never written a payroll check in his life. And I always struggle listening to people be experts when it comes to economic things, especially tariffs, that have never written a payroll check. have no idea how things on the street actually work i struggle listening to people that again claim to be experts but have never done that end of things so you know what some of you listen to this particular individual more power to you i i for one will not refuse to well i don't listen to anybody by the way not not only that person but really i don't listen to anybody because a i don't want to pick up anybody else's bad habits i have enough bad habits of my own i don't need any more Number two, my own fresh ideas. I'm not going to grab something from somebody else that's out there. I was talking to somebody Saturday night about this. I don't listen to podcasts. I don't do anything else in my spare time. As far as that end of it goes, I'll listen to some music here or there. I'll listen to a lot of audio books, as you all know, for the Ready Radio end of things that I do. But I don't listen to anybody else. I don't watch news. I don't watch TV. I don't want to be corrupted by anything else out there. I don't even watch the Sunday morning roundtables that are out there for all of the media shows. I don't even know what they're called because I don't watch them. I just don't do any of that because I don't want to be corrupted by what somebody else thinks. I do watch a few quote-unquote experts, influencers, whatever, like the Mr. Global guy that I was talking about that does understand the petroleum industry, and I do listen to him because of the ins and outs, mechanically speaking, of how that industry works. But again, Mr. Global gets it way off at times because he lets his political views cloud his judgment. And I failed to mention this, but OPEC agreed to raise – production 400,000 barrels a day, and all of a sudden Mr. Global thinks that's going to crash the oil market. I want to remind everybody, I looked this up last night, we use roughly, we're above this now, but we use 20 million barrels of oil a day as a country. Just us, just the United States of America. So do you think that 400,000 barrels of extra production per day are going to crash the oil markets? It may have an effect. It may lower the price of oil a little bit. But at the end of the day, 400,000 barrels is not making a dent in anything, by the way. So, again, Mr. Global, and again, it's proven because today the day is gone for the East Coast. And no, nobody's out peddling the streets looking for a new job because they got fired because of what oil prices did today. And that's what Mr. Global predicted yesterday, by the way. So Mr. Global has been completely debunked as far as that goes. He's wrong. He's going to have to come out and probably make some other video on what happened and give you his reasoning as to why. But that's typically what these guys do. Well, if this would have happened, then that would have happened. And these guys always try to backtrack and prove that they're right when, in fact— They're dead wrong. Paul Leuenberger is coming up next. One person that's not wrong when it comes to insurance and saving you money is my good friend, Paul Leuenberger, who would love to help you with all of your insurance needs. He'll shop what's best for you, 303-662-0789.
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All right, that's it for this first hour heading into the first week of May, first full week of May. And, man, where do the months go? And they just roll by super fast. That's all I can say. So, all right, we have got somebody coming on hopefully here at 4 o'clock that's going to talk about the Department of Education and different things along those lines when it comes to classroom education and so on and how that would, you know, the shutting down of the department, how that will affect things. We'll talk to him in a moment. Don't go anywhere. Hour 2 is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Join John Rush and guest Jerry Blum as they dissect the failure of the current educational system in fostering proficient readers. With a focus on national test scores, they explore the reasons behind declining literacy rates and how this problem translates into a staggering economic impact. Jerry passionately advocates for a training-based reading method, recounting success stories from the USA Reading Clinic, showing that genuine improvement is possible with the right approach. This episode serves as a wake-up call for educators and policymakers alike.
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All right, welcome back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, appreciate you all joining me. Lots of text messages. I try to catch up on those at the top of the hour and even read those as I can maybe through the show, but it's always harder when I'm by myself to do some things. So some of you texted and knew who I was talking about. when I was mentioning other talk show hosts earlier. So thanks for being so astute and aware. And then are those of you still texting me some of the things that we had talked about with David Gonzalez in regards to family, states, and things like that? So, again, thank you very much. I appreciate that and learning things from you guys all the time when it comes to that. So Jerry Blum joining us now. Jerry, welcome. How are you?
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I'm doing great, John.
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I appreciate you joining us. And there's a lot of talk. And I, for one, I'll just tell you where I stand when it comes to the Department of Education. I have literally been talking about and watching what I consider to be that debacle of a department and how long it's been operating, the amount of money that has been invested into it. And yet we keep looking at our test scores and the literacy rate of our kids that graduate annually go down and down and down. I'm not too shook up about it at all.
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Well, you know, I always like to start with good news because the technology that I created, the USA Reading Clinic, continues to create outstanding readers for the kids.
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Nice.
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However, the new test scores, the national test scores, came out with the National Assessment of Educational Progress. And I knew this was going to happen because 34 states, the last I looked, The legislature mandated that they go back to phonics, which I'll explain is absolutely the wrong way. So what happened this year is or 2024 compared to 2022 is that the scores, reading scores actually went down. They didn't improve.
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Wow. So we're not hooked on phonics is what you're telling me.
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But phonics is not the way, because when you break down words, the neuroscientists at Georgetown Medical, they did a special brain imaging, and they found out that the way the brain works is it takes an entire word, once you attach a meaning to it, then it goes into the visual dictionary in the brain, a part of the brain. And then you can recognize the word. So breaking down words and coming up with rules for reading, how can you become a fluent reader and comprehend and so forth. So it's the exact opposite. So I'm not surprised that the reading scores went down. And for the basic test, they had the worst scores ever, ever. The 70% couldn't even read proficiently, but even the basic test, we had a third that couldn't even pass that.
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So for people that are listening, Jerry, make sure I'm asking this the right way. What should a high school senior graduating high school, what should their reading speed and comprehension be at that stage of their life?
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well it should be uh you know in the 200s if not ideally you know above 300 words per minute okay with with adequate comprehension but okay talking about seniors 50 percent only 52 exactly don't you know graduate college so about half graduate and the professors say that only 20 to 30 percent of the reading assignments they give the college kids only 20 to 30% actually read what they hand out because this reading is, is, is very poor. Wow.
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Oh, okay. Don't question on my part. How are they then passing through and getting a good grade in college if they can't read? I'm confused.
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Well, many of them aren't, uh, they, they may, uh, struggle and they put in more hours and so forth, but it's tough. It's really tough. I mean, I, Improve the or have doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers as adults that are poor readers. They're smart people. They get by, but they still say they struggle with reading. In other words, if you don't correct it when they're young. You're going to become an adult.
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I mean, I remember some of our conversation from the last time that you were on. And I, of course, and I think I told you this, I was taught completely different how to read versus the way most kids are learning how to read today, which I guess at the time I wasn't too thankful for, Jerry, but I guess I am today.
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Yes. There's a small percentage. Let's see, about 6% they classify students as advanced readers. That's it.
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That's it?
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That's it, 6%.
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Okay, so maybe you know the stats on this, maybe you don't. So if we took... The collective, so we take all adults in the U.S., collectively, how many fall into that? What's the percentage of proficient readers across the country after this many years of poor reading skills coming out of school?
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Well, let's put it this way, monetarily, John. Because of the poor reading skills in this country, it's costing the country $2.2 trillion in productivity. Wow. Okay? Wow. $2.2 trillion is lost.
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Amazing.
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I had no idea, Jerry.
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I had no idea it was that large.
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Yeah, it's terrible. We're not born with an evolution with the wiring in the brain to be proficient readers.
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So we have to program ourselves to be able to read proficiently is what you're saying.
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Well, you need technology like I created and developed to basically train rather than teach. Okay.
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So really quick, explain how you do that differently than what kids are being taught in school.
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Okay. It's training rather than teaching.
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Okay.
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You have to develop the ability to process information. So I have technology that simulates the correct way of reading to develop these pathways. I have a lot of different techniques that I use. But think of a computer with a poor processing chip. No matter what you upload, download into it, it's going to process poorly.
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True.
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Well, that's what's happening with the kids. You cannot... teach processing. It happens at five times a second, so it's trainable, just like a sport. The sport's a good analogy. You can't sit in a classroom and, quote, teach somebody to be an expert tennis player or basketball player. You've got to train.
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Good point.
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It's training, and that's what develops the new pathways in the brain specifically for the task of reading and learning. And there's other pathways in the brain to become a good violinist, okay, to what you're doing. But fortunately for reading, I can develop it very quickly.
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Well, that was a question I had as well. And, again, make sure I'm phrasing this correctly because – While I believe everybody has the ability, you would agree with me, I think, on this. They can be trained how to read, read proficiently, and so on. But do some take that on more naturally? Just like, for example, somebody that plays golf or is really good at tennis or is really good at basketball. Some people are just more naturally gifted at things than others. Is that true with reading as well?
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I would say yes. There's genetics involved. I happen to have been a sprinter. and, and, and had that sprinter body. I was born that way. So I, I, I excelled in track. Okay. And, uh, but yeah, some are better propensity, uh, for it, but I, I've taken very, very poor readers and, and made them outstanding readers. And I can, you can give you some stories if you want.
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Yeah. Share one. Yeah. I've got some time. Share one with us if you would, Jerry, I would appreciate that. Yes, absolutely.
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Yeah. Yeah. I have some here right here, like, uh, Jenny G's story, and I was just going to read what she said to me, and then I'll elaborate a little bit more, but I feel so grateful that we found your program for my daughter. She has battled a reading disability for many years, and I had lost hope that there was real hope available. This program has drastically improved her reading level, her confidence is soaring, and as a parent, there is no better feeling. You know, many parents, they've tried so many things. They spend $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 on these reading programs. And then I test them and I say they can't process. They can't process the words. And what happens is the parent loses hope, the kid becomes discouraged, and they feel that, you know, after a while, that this is the way my kid's going to be for life. And there's nothing... there's no truth to that. Uh, if, if, you know, you use the right, uh, technology, um, let me give you another one. Uh, this is a really good one here. This was, uh, yeah, I have Scott W story. Before we found the program, my daughter was facing the possibility of repeating a grade due to reading struggle. She had low self-esteem, poor fluency and difficulty with comprehension. The grades were slipping and progress seemed impossible. Uh, But after joining the USA Reading Clinic, everything changed. Now she's reading at an advanced level with excellent spelling and fluency. Her self-esteem has soared, and her confidence in school has completely transformed. We couldn't be more thrilled with the results. So you can see the difference here. And what I want to point out is that other people, teachers and so forth, have tried to help this child, but they're not going to the root cause. Again, go back to that computer. You can upload, download whatever you want. If the processing chip is poor, you're going to go nowhere.
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Good point. Good point.
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And so I read one more for you. I just want to let you know this is Wendy's story. I just want to let you know your program is making a big difference in my daughter's performance. At a recent parent-teacher conference, the teacher was shocked. She wanted to know what we were doing because our daughter had completely transformed before starting. She couldn't read more than eight words per minute. Now she knows all her sight words, reads with emotion, and sets her own reading goals. We are so grateful. It's true. Parents are so grateful that I was able to help them. I was a poor reader myself. I can tell you a little bit about that, but I suffered until right through eighth grade, and then my father found some of the early pioneers that were kind of diddling with how you improve processing. It was very rudimentary back then, but I kicked in and became an A student in high school. Wow.
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Good for you.
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This is how I got into this, to help others. I know what I know what the kids are going through. I know what the parents are going through. Yep. And I'm trying to help them.
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Jerry, what's the website folks go to? I mean, how can they get involved in this?
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Okay. Well, I offer a free consultation. I like to speak with the parents and explain in detail why their kids are suffering. But it's usareadingclinic.com. And if they want to call, I have the phone number there, but it's 800-230-3054. Okay. I will put that in my show notes.
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I'm looking at the website. It's right at the top of the website as well. For those of you listening where you want to know more about it, go right to the website. I will, Jerry, put that in my show notes so folks can look that up a little bit later and find you as needed. And again, like I said last time, you're welcome anytime. I enjoy having you on. We, I, have a heart to get young people involved. to learn to read. I'm an employer as well, Jerry, and I will just tell you that I've been an employer literally since the late 80s, and I have witnessed and watched what you're talking about happen as an employer.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So I know exactly what you're talking about. I see the results.
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Yeah, yeah. So I'm here to help as many people as I can. Awesome.
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Jerry, I appreciate you very much. Keep up the great work, and we'll keep having you back.
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Thank you, John.
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You're very welcome. Take care. And Jerry will not give you, of course, what his secrets are for that, but I think I've got a pretty good idea of what he does to help kids learn how to read. And I don't think it's probably much off of how I learn to read. as a young boy because I didn't go to a traditional school growing up. I went to a Christian school, and we had different types of curriculum and so on, and the way we were taught to read was way different than what every other kid that I even knew at the time was being taught how to read. And I will say that as much as I hated it then, I'm thankful today that I actually was taught that way because in my world here— I mean, I read constantly, constantly. In fact, as an auto technician back in the day, we had to learn how to read and figure things out. And when I was learning how to be a technician, we didn't have YouTube and videos and all the things that are out there now. That didn't exist. We didn't have smartphones and all that. We had manuals, paper. They were written. You didn't have any other computer system or anything to find things. So you literally had to know how to go look at something, read it, read the instructions, how to do X, Y, Z, or you didn't get it done. So I'm very thankful that I was able to do all those things. And and I wouldn't be doing today what I do without having that proficiency. And those of you listening, if you've got a. family member, child, even yourself, and you want to become a better reader, I would highly suggest you go to usareadingclinic.com and find out more. Veteran Windows and Doors coming up next. Dave would love to help you with your home and its windows and the proficiency of and what other window companies and installers won't tell you is it's not a one-size-fits-all. A lot of them will tell you that it is and it's not. Call Dave today. Find out exactly what works best for your home. Go to klzradio.com and look for Veteran Windows and Doors there.
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All right, we are back again. Thank you all for your text messages. I do appreciate it. Some of you sending me valuable information that I use not only on this program but others, so keep sending me text messages. That's something that I always appreciate. Even if I don't get a chance to directly respond to each one, I do read each and every one of them, and I appreciate what you send. One thing I was going to cover today that I may have to come back and do, at a little bit later time is there's all sorts of things on social media concerning the Colorado GOP, new leadership, old leadership, and so on. And everybody's an expert, or they think they are. In fact, Mark Hampton, I'll name him by name because he's a guy that's been in politics here in Colorado, especially in this Parker southeast end of town. And I guess Mark's an expert when it comes to finances and taxes and all sorts of things along those lines. And I was going to break down a post that he put up because there's a lot of things in it that he has right, but there's also a lot of things in it that he has wrong. And it's always interesting to me, and I don't know Mark's background. I don't know what he does for a living, although I can pretty much tell you by the item that I read or the post that I read that Mark most likely works for someone else. I don't think he works for himself because a lot of what he has in here he would have phrased and done differently if he works for himself because he's going through Dave Williams and the way Dave was paid and how he paid himself as an LLC versus having a paycheck and this, that, and the other. And He's trying to combat or he's trying to counter what some would say was some fraud, potential fraud, that may have been there in Dave's term as GOP chair. Now, I never accused Dave of committing fraud. I think there was a lot of hanky-panky going on when it comes to folks that were paid to do things that, frankly— in my opinion, didn't need to be there, didn't need to be paid. Everybody touts Dave on saving money here and there and everywhere, and the reality is, no, I think it's quite the opposite, frankly. I don't think Dave did any better job of saving money than any other chair that we've had in there prior. It's just a matter of which one of them want to spend money on their own pet peeves, their own pet projects, and Dave was no different. I don't care what anybody says. I can look at the FEC report and prove that to you. And Dave spent a lot of money on attorneys that, quite frankly, I've been over that one numerous times, spent a lot of money on attorneys that, frankly, didn't need to be spent. It's that simple. But this particular post, and if I get a chance to break it down later in today's program, I will. If not, I might do it tomorrow with Andy. But I can literally go through and break down what Mark put out. And, Mark, you know, I don't know you personally. I've never met you on an individual basis. But you're a jerk. I'll just say that straight up. You're a clown and a jerk. The way you approach things, you have about as much diplomacy as, I don't know, you have none. You're a very angry individual that is upset over what happened with your particular folks that were in power in the Colorado GOP, and you're making that very well known. You're like a little school kid who had his ball taken away, and you're mad. I get it. You're mad. Get over it, though. Be an adult. Look at things in a more adult fashion. And, you know, yes, I railed hard on Dave Williams while he was GOP chair. No doubt. I was the first talk show host in this town to do so. First person in this town to do so, I think. I don't think anybody else came out any sooner against Dave than I did publicly. And I'm glad he's gone. I wouldn't trust Dave as far as I could throw him. Guy's a crook as far as I'm concerned. Now, what did he do as far as things internally with money and so on? There's a full audit being looked at right now, and I guess time will tell, and we'll find out. And frankly, I think that's some of the things that are worrying some folks, even the Mark Hamptons of the world, is what will actually be found out. And I keep seeing reports out, you know, posts out from even the old treasurer, Tom, talking about this, that and the other. And it's like, OK, guys, if there were problems there and you knew about these problems, you didn't fix those problems under your tenure. And yet they're now being looked at as problems. Isn't that on you? Why didn't you fix them when you were in charge? If there were any kind of account discrepancies and things along those lines from even previous administrations, why didn't you fix them? If you're so proficient at what you do, why didn't you fix them? I would have. It's always interesting, by the way, to me, that you have people that frankly aren't proficient at business, frankly aren't CPAs. but yet are going to tell everybody else how that end of things, the business end and tax end of things actually work. So, anyways, if I get a chance, I'll do that later in the program. If not, I'll for sure do it by tomorrow. Golden Eagle Financial, though, coming up next. Al Smith, who would love to help you, again, with your financial future. The planning of, and the reality is... He's an expert. I am not. Al knows exactly how to get you to retirement and then allow you to stay there based upon the investments that you have made and what you've put into it, the plan that you have made, by the way. And if you don't have a plan, Al will help you with said plan. Find him at klzradio.com.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. My son is on vacation, so normally he would be in this particular slop. We have Tom Hogan joining us today. Tom, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm well. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I appreciate it, Tom. Longevity research. And I do health and wellness for an entire hour on Wednesdays, and I have done all sorts of interviews through the years. And the reality is, yes, most people are trying to figure out, you know, How do we live healthy? How do we live longer? But I guess the question that I have for you is, you know, at what cost?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's a good question. Basically, it's one of these situations where you look at longevity as having two halves. One is the mental and one is the physical. Right. And I think if you look at it from that standpoint, you can see there's a disconnect until we can get our act together. We're going to age quicker. Right. on the mental side than the physical side, given all the data that's out there. And as one of my characters says in the novel, he has this vision of his body lasting until he's 150, and his mind goes at 85, and he's sitting there in a home, and he says, the only thing I've got is great abs to show for it, you know?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm laughing, but that's kind of true. I mean, it's not far from the truth.
SPEAKER 09 :
Not at all. I mean, the whole project or book got its genesis from a friend of mine who's a venture capitalist, one of the top rated in the world. And he and I were going to write a book together, but he had all these very convoluted and intricate things he wanted to talk about and invest. And I said, well, let's put it off then for another month and get together. So what have you been up to recently? He says, oh, I just got off a boat in the Adriatic where we were all there for biohacking and longevity. And I said, well, tell me more about that. He said, biohacking, you're your own guinea pig, essentially, on things to stay. And I said, well, there's our book right there, because no one knows anything about that. It's something that your general audience can read. grab a hold of, as opposed to algorithms or any of these other security elements.
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The book, by the way, Flirting with Forever, a new book exploring how chasing eternal life could get humanity into serious trouble. And I agree with that, Tom. I mean, I think that... A, yes, we need to live as healthy of a life as we can, whether that's on the physical or the mental side. On the same token, I think we can get so captivated with trying to, you know, chase that, you know, living forever ideal, if you would, that we lose sight of things that really are important.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. No, I'm seeing it, you know... I went back to MIT, which has a great lab and they hosted me for a couple of days to make sure that I got the science correct. And you're right. I mean, there's people, um, I would say probably half of the venture capitalists that I know have, um, retreats in, um, uh, New Zealand, uh, which come with like a bunker and food for two months or two years. And I sat there and I looked at my friends and I said, how many of you have got one of these? And they all did. And I said, you know, well, there's a damning statement if I've ever heard one.
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So, yeah, it's a very real scenario. Well, and just as a side note for those individuals, and maybe they thought this further ahead than most, but if something really major happened, EMP, something along those lines, they're not getting there anyways. Yeah. Sorry to say, they're never going to make it.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know. And the point is, if they do make it, it's because they had a private jet waiting, which means they have to take care of their family and the pilot's family. And it just goes down the list. And at one point you say, hey, you know, I think I'd rather just get a nice glass of wine and kiss my ass goodbye.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. And yet, Tom, these are guys that, quote unquote, are the smartest guys out there, financially speaking. Yeah, absolutely. And they're all...
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fixated on uh you know as the joke goes living forever or die trying and um yeah it's it's an amazing conversation to have because all of a sudden these very rational very intelligent people start sounding like conspiracy theorists, you know. And it's all because of the lack of control that they have over the end of the world.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Great point. Okay, so what other fascinating things did you learn along these lines? I mean, again, like I've said, Tom, I've interviewed a lot of different folks over the course of a decade, literally, when it comes to health and wellness and all the different things that are out there, everything literally from – Again, physical health, brain health. How do you potentially stave off Alzheimer's? I mean, we go down the list, Tom, of all the different interviews I've done over the years. And I'll just tell you this. If I chased every single thing that everybody that I came on and interviewed, I wouldn't have time to work.
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Yeah, no, I the the people that I've been talking to, I think, are on the safe and sane part of that spectrum. They want to but they want to live as long as they possibly can healthily. But at the same time. uh they're doing these odd things such as you know the the bunkers in new zealand and uh putting uh uh inserts some some go so far as you know um implants in the brain so that they can conduct business in a different you know you sit there and when you're done with the conversation you just wonder which planet one or both of you are on right exactly
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Okay, so I guess question, is there, I mean, I'm one, again, as I said earlier, I do think we need to live, you know, as healthy a life as we possibly can. There's definitely things out there that environmentally speaking, we could do a much better job of handling our food intake, you know. You name it on down the line, diet, exercise, all of that, Tom, which, again, can even feed our brain health and so on. But is there any nuggets that you learned where it's like, you know what, if people actually did do this, they might actually extend their life? Or does it still come down to genetics?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don't think it comes down to genetics anymore, John, because you can do so much with a gene now where you carve it, you know, with these amazingly precise microscopes. And, you know, you sit there and you go, OK, you know, you're going to be able to influence in the womb even what issues you can see here. using this new technology. So it feels like, physically at least, nothing is beyond the reach of these guys and their scientific teams, except for the brain. Right now, the brain is, you know, it's not much further than, you know, Prevagenz or whatever it was that is on the TV all of the time, but I think the problem is that the body is outstripping the mind right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
So the body is, we've got to the point where health-wise we can make the body last. It's still the brain end of things we're struggling with.
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. That was the whole guidance that my players took away is there's no point in addressing one if you can't address the other because most people will say, no, I'll check out at 85 still, even if you've got this amazing physical extension because there's no mental corollary to it.
SPEAKER 07 :
So did you find that there's anything that, you know, you meet people all the time to where you know that they may be in their 90s or even my wife's grandmother is 101, will be 102 this July, and her mental acuity, Tom, is very good. In fact, it's better than probably a lot of folks that are in their 80s, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. What gives those individuals that edge?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a great question. I mean, my mother was 102 when she passed, and she was, up until the last week, very sharp, very astute, etc. And on the flip side, you know, my father had dementia, and he died at the age of 85, but his body kept him alive far longer than his brain wanted to. And so my wife looks at me and she goes, My nightmare is that you inherit both of them, and you wind up living to be 102, but you're a vegetable from 75 on. So that is the problem, is making sure. I would say it's genetic at this point, John, with your family or with mine. But two or three more years with the ability to manipulate the genes and the proteins out there, different game.
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Who knows?
SPEAKER 09 :
Tom, where do folks buy the book? Well, right now it's on Amazon and in a few bookstores. It's the Forever Factor. And, yeah, we'd be delighted in anyone.
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All right. The forever factor. I appreciate, again, flirting with forever. Tom, again, thank you for joining me. I appreciate it very much. No, thank you, John. You're very welcome. Have a great rest of your day. And, yeah, I think his last fear, I could understand his wife's fear greatly, living to be 102 but yet not having any mental acuity from maybe even your mid-70s to mid-80s and up would not be any fun. At all. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. And, folks, again, they can help you with your next vehicle purchase, new or used, by the way. They can do both. They do the new side also. And if there's a vehicle that you've been looking for, you've been thinking about getting, they may or may not have it. If they don't, they sure have the ability to go find that vehicle for you as well. Find them at RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
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And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Joe, what's going on, sir? Welcome back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you, John. John, you had a chance to listen to Ilhan Omar explaining why people like you need to be monitored.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I don't pay much attention to her, to be quite honest.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, do you have the 24-second clip? I do.
SPEAKER 07 :
You want me to play it?
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And then I've got some information. She's either a liar or a bigot. Okay, all right, let me play it. Here we go.
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Oh, hang on. I've got to turn the sound up. Let me start over.
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Our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country. We should be profiling, monitoring, and creating policies to fight the radicalization of white men.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. I already have some things to say, but go ahead, Joe.
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Now, John, she's either a clueless idiot who has no idea what she's talking about or a knowing liar, because if she had ever bothered to read the FBI annual crime, National Crime Report, which I do, and I have some data from that most recent one, which was for calendar year 2023. Here's the data. Now, remember, she said white men, meaning guys like Irish, were, quote, most of the deaths in this country. Well, I went back, and if you look at table, expanded homicide table, expanded homicide table, data, table three. Now, not every homicide can they identify who the assailant was, but for those cases where the race of the assailant was known, which was 15,708, white offenders accounted for just 6,405, even though we're 67% of the population. And 6,405, if my grade school math is any good, is only 40.8% of that total. Now, is 40.8% most of 15,708? No. Now, then you go to the column for black-slash-African-American assailants, and that number was an astounding 8,842, which is 56.3 of those homicides. And by the way, African-Americans represent 12.5% of this population, but they account for 56.3% of the homicides. So first of all, so she's clearly either has no idea what she's talking about or she's a knowing liar. So my question is, When the person who's either a clueless idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about or a knowing liar is a U.S. congressperson, which of those answers scares you more?
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Well, and I know the answer is she's an out-and-out liar. Trust me, she knows the stats. Those people that are around her that are even feeding her these items, which, again, Joe, I would tell everybody out there that, A, most people like her. They're given talking points. They're going to go on air, and they're talking about what they've been told to say. These are not her own thoughts, I don't believe, Joe. These are things that are being force-fed into her. They are an out-and-out lie. She knows it. The people feeding it know it. There's no way you could go on air talking about that by just looking around. I mean, you'd have to live in a complete, utter bubble. And I don't even know where that would be, Joe, an utter bubble to believe the things she believes in.
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So you're saying that she knows that African-Americans are responsible for the majority of the homicides in this country?
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Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
She knows that. She's lying. So she's a knowing liar.
SPEAKER 07 :
She's pushing a total lie, a false narrative, which, let's face it, Joe, that's what the left continues to do over and over and over again. Just like I saw a video I was going to play today that just reminded me of it. I saw it last night where there is a known representative, a Democrat representative, touting that Donald Trump is going to deport U.S. citizens. That's another out-and-out lie, going back to the same thing we're talking about, Joe. These are individuals that knowingly are lying about something that they know for a fact. Our Constitution protects any U.S. citizen from deportation, period. You and I both know that. This guy knows that, but he's going to tout that narrative.
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Well, by the way, Joe, when I see people make predictions like that, I always ask them this question. I said, so were you born with your psychic powers that allowed you to read other people's minds, or did you acquire them later in life? Because clearly he's making a prediction about what somebody intends to do in the future. Unbelievable. And that's what it comes down to.
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No, you're right. You're right. And again, point being, Joe, I firmly believe, I mean, this guy, Ilmar, AOC, Bernie, I can go down the list. They all know the right answer. They just choose to give you an answer that they would prefer, and it's an out-and-out lie, and they know, you know that old saying, Joe, say a lie enough and it becomes the truth?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, a lie will make it halfway around the world before the truth can even tie its shoes, right? And they know that. And here's the other thing that troubles me. The person interviewing her didn't ask her, you know, didn't know, was he that stupid that he didn't know it was a lie? why didn't he ask her, you know, where does that number come from? Why don't you just sit there and accept it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, no, that's one, Joe, where I'm sorry to say, but I've said this openly on air and I'll keep saying it. The majority of individuals in media, TV, even some radio, do nothing more than repeat what's given to them. And frankly, I'm sorry, Joe, they're brainless. These are people that frankly are not that sharp.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, I'm afraid you're right, because when I look at this guy, I don't think he has a clue in terms of the data that she's talking about. You're right. He reads a script. They dress him up. They put makeup on his face.
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And the old song, Dirty Laundry, it ain't far off of that. Yep, yep. I'm sorry to say, these people literally are puppets. If they look good, they've got the right teeth, they've got the right hair, they've got the right physique, they can stand in front of the camera or sit in front of the camera and do what's necessary. You know, maybe outside of the weather folk, and even sometimes I wonder about them, Joe, at the end of the day, because a lot of them are climate alarmists as well, at the end of the day, all they're doing is spouting off what their network tells them to spout off.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Yeah, it's so sad. By the way, one other – and did you talk about the Antarctic ice sheet growing? I did.
SPEAKER 07 :
I did, yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Just one other thing. You know, people are always talking about due process, due process, due, due, due. And they talk about it like it's only one type of due process. Do you know that what constitutes due process in this country can change based upon the circumstances? Due process does not mean that everybody gets to see a judge. As an example, under Bill Clinton's side, the Immigration Reform Act in 1996. And in that act, one of the things was expedited deportation, which means if you're caught within 100 miles of the border within 14 days of crossing, customs and border patrol can deport you. No judge, no warrant, no nothing. We caught you. You're within 100 miles. You're out of here. And so that's one form of due process. Another form of due process is These people, these millions of people that have had their photographs and fingerprints taken and they've been given a notice to appear and they've been given a website to check on the status of their hearing. If they don't show for their scheduled immigration, their scheduled hearing.
SPEAKER 07 :
They've missed out on their due process.
SPEAKER 06 :
That was their due process. That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
They missed out on it.
SPEAKER 06 :
They missed on it.
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Joe, really quick, along those lines, I know we're short on time, but along those lines, there's a video going around, and it's talking about Donald Trump. He's doing an interview with somebody, and this person from the press just keeps hammering him on, well, don't they deserve a trial? Don't they deserve a trial? Don't they deserve a trial? And the reality is, to your point, they deserve due process. There's nothing in the Constitution that says they are required and or have the rights to a trial.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, because due process does not necessarily, it can in some cases, but due process does not necessarily mean a trial before a judicial judgment.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, due process could be you go meet with somebody that's an authority in that particular area and they either rubber stamp you or ship you home, one of the two.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right? That's the process.
SPEAKER 06 :
You come into this country, you arrive on a flight from a foreign country where we require a visa and you don't have one. The person you talk to at Customs and Immigration turns you right around and says, you're on the next plane out of here.
SPEAKER 07 :
No different, Joe, than if you and I went to our southern country or northern, either one, Canada or Mexico, and did not have the right things to enter, passport and so on. Guess what? The due process is you and I go home.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And by the way, you're already on foreign soil. That's right. When I drove to Canada last year, the Canadian immigration checkpoint was a mile away. I was on Canadian soil. Gotcha. But they could turn me around. I was on Canadian soil. They could turn me around, so I'd go home. Same thing with the U.S. checkpoint. You're on U.S. soil. The people in the booth can turn you around and say, go back the other way.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is part of the process.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. That's the process for that situation.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right. A lot of what Joe was talking about, by the way, when it comes to either just you're flat out lying, you know what the truth is, or you're just another moron and don't know the truth and you just repeat what you're told. We have some of those same problems inside of our own party here in Colorado. I talked earlier about some individuals that are posting things on social media that I got to believe either they're completely moronic and have no idea what they're talking about. or they're just pushing something that keeps getting fed to them, and they feel like they have enough influence whereby they can just keep continuing on with that particular narrative and lie, frankly. I don't know which it is. I don't know these people individually. I know some of them, and I will tell you that some of them are just completely, utterly ignorant of the facts. And by the way, choose to continue to be ignorant. That's the most disappointing thing, is when people knowingly are ignorant— and won't do anything about not being ignorant any longer. I'll be back. Another flower coming your way. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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With your host, John Rush.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did.
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Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Spencer Morrison joining me now, author of Reshore, How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream. Spencer, welcome.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks for having me on the program, Rush.
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I appreciate it very much. All right. You're in good company. I'm like you. I tend to, you know, I've tried to even tell people, you know, turn off the news. Don't look at social media. Go about your life. And the reality is you probably won't know a lot of difference in what your daily life is like. But everybody out there on the media end of things, Spencer, is going to tell you that we've now entered the end of the world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah, that's exactly correct. And you know what? I'll tell you what. In some sense, we're nearing the end of the economic world if we don't change policy on tariffs.
SPEAKER 11 :
You are correct.
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Of what President Trump is doing.
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time we have to turn it around
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We've got to turn it around. You know, America's run a trade deficit every year since 1974. And the total value, if you add all that up and adjust it for inflation, is $25 trillion. That's $25 trillion that was spent building up China, building up their industries, rather than being invested here in America.
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Okay, what do you tell those people that would say, well, you know, Spencer, at the end of the day, you know, we're the biggest customer in the world. We're going to have some deficits. Who cares? Deficits aren't all that bad. What's all the fuss about?
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Well, I think deficits are terrible when they're long-standing chronic deficits, and they're a deficit with everyone. You know, there's this old trope. They say, well, I have a deficit with my grocery store. It's not a bad thing. If they get money, I get groceries. Sure, but you don't run a deficit with your grocer and with your barber and with your auto mechanic while you don't have a job. You have to have production. You have to have income. You have to have money coming in in order to spend it, and we're not doing that right now. A trade deficit means literally... There's a deficit in production. So how are we purchasing those goods? We're selling assets like real estate and ownership in America's stock market and debt. We're selling all this government debt. That's how we're getting the goods.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And I think it's very – not publicized enough, but it's pretty well known that I come from the car end of things. That's what I've done the majority of my life and sitting in this chair just by – By sheer chance, Spencer, because I'm a car guy at heart and ran businesses my whole life and so on. And the reality is I can tell you from the car end of things that we manufactured a lot more things at one time in this country than we currently do today because we found it, quote unquote, cheaper to build cars elsewhere. So a lot of those jobs that used to be in places like Detroit and Dearborn and and other places around the country are no longer there, and it's a wasteland now because of it. And the reality is once it was determined that we could do things cheaper someplace else and farm those things off, we did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you're totally right, John. And you've got to wonder, cheaper how? The quality of goods is certainly cheaper. You've got to buy the same product two or three times now compared to even 40 years ago. You know, the goods are cheaply made, so I think we have to, you know, make this distinction between, you know, the price of something can be low, but if the quality is also low, we're not actually getting a deal here. And I think that's exactly what's happened to the American consumer. The wool's been pulled over everybody's eyes.
SPEAKER 11 :
The other thing that's being, I think, pulled over their eyes right now currently that I talk about continually, Spencer, is even the products that we're going to continue to buy. Say we're going to continue to import certain things from other countries. And the misconception, and maybe I'm wrong in this, but the way I see it painted, and I don't watch a lot of news, so maybe you're more familiar with this than I am, but I think the fear that a lot of Americans have is, oh, that item, that pair of tennis shoes that I'm used to spending – X amount of money on, all of a sudden that's now going to double because of tariffs. Well, people forget because they're not being informed that the tariff is on the cost of the good, not the retail price of the good, correct?
SPEAKER 16 :
You're entirely correct, John. A lot of people don't understand that. And it's not even just on that. So you have to remember that when these tariffs, for example, they're 145% on goods from China, that's the price that the importer pays to China to purchase the goods. And that importer is usually based in Singapore or Hong Kong or wherever it may be. So if they pay, say, for example, you have $60 sneakers. They're paying the Chinese $5 to make the sneakers. Then they're marking it up in their warehouse in Hong Kong. They're selling it to the American wholesaler for $20. And then it's on the shelf for $60. So that 145% tariff isn't going to make those shoes $130. You're going to get a relatively small amount. Yeah. Exactly. It's a small fraction of what it is. It's not a sales tax. This is a targeted surgical tariff.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, and I think I know the answer to this, but then why are the American public continually being lied to or misled, maybe not out-lied to, in some cases it is, but why are they being misled down this path that those tennis shoes are now going to go from 60 to 120?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you've got to follow the money. You've always got to follow the money. So earlier I was talking about how we pay for this trade deficit. We pay for it by selling off assets, so real estate and stocks. So basically we've taken this $25 trillion, we've got the foreign goods, and now this money has to be balanced out somehow. So according to the balance of payments... And all of this money re-enters the country. It's flooded into the stock market. So there's a ton of money to be made in offshoring, because not only are they getting the so-called cheaper goods, but this money is being flushed back into the stock market, raising the price of raising the price of equities. So it's a double whammy on Wall Street. They're getting profits on the so-called cheaper goods. They're also getting profits because their stocks are being inflated by foreign buyers. So there's a lot of money to be made in selling out the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's why Wall Street doesn't like them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's $25 trillion in their bank account.
SPEAKER 11 :
Can you blame them? No, thank you. I mean, you're talking about some of the things that I talk about here continually, and it's the reason why, you know, right now, currently, Wall Street doesn't like what's going on. A, Wall Street doesn't like change. B, they don't like being shortchanged.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, they've made an astronomical amount of money on offshoring, and the gravy train, you know, if President Trump is successful in getting America to reindustrialize, the gravy train is over for them, because they're going to have to pay living wages to to American workers rather than paying what amounts to slave wages to people in China or Vietnam. And then on top of that, they're going to lose the gravy train of this $25 trillion that's been funneled into the stock market. That's going to dry up as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
How long do you feel like some of these companies that, by the way, have already committed to building plants and doing things here in the U.S., which I keep reminding people of, that these particular policies and what happens when these companies make those types of investments is these aren't the next two- to three-year or even five-year investments. These are 20-plus-year investments when it's all said and done. How long do you think it'll take some of these companies to actually follow through with that?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think it really depends on the policy. If the tariffs are high and they're stable and companies can bank on them in the future, then you're going to see quite a lot of reshoring. And I think it's going to happen a lot faster than people think. I mean, you look back at World War II, for example. America doubled its industrial output in the space of two years. So it's possible to move really fast, but we have to have the national will to do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and I've talked about this. I want to get your opinion on this. I think on top of what you just said, we have to have, yes, a national will. And I'm not a big one on the Fed stepping on states any way, shape, or form. I'm a big states' rights guy. Although, when you talk about some of these manufacturing things that we want to get back into the country, get up and running, You have to figure out a way, Spencer, to get cities and counties to be able to fast track some of this development. Because I know here in Colorado, if you want to put a factory in, you and I decided tomorrow we're going to build XYZ factory. Depending upon where we find that and all of the other hoops you and I have to jump through, we're not building that plant for five years.
SPEAKER 16 :
Especially with all of the onerous environmental regulations. A big part of this is the fact that there's a conflict of laws between local municipalities and between the states and between the feds and everybody stepping on each other's toes. So it's a huge problem. I mean, again, tariffs is about creating a market for American-made products because right now the market in a lot of cases doesn't exist.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's been offshore to China.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
But it's more than that. I mean, there has to be internal reform that goes along with this. Tariffs are not a one-size-fits-all solution. On top of that, we have to get the cost of power under control. We have to simplify regulations so we can actually build the factories and do the heavy industry here. So all of these things need to work in synergy. So it's a big, big project.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and thank you. I agree with you saying that because there's a lot of folks, I think, even that could be for the tariff end of things, which I am, and you can tell by talking to me, but yet on the other side forget that, okay, yeah, that's great, but if we're going to encourage development and things along those lines and get things ramped back up in the country, we've got to figure out a way to fast-track some of these things because you and I building a plant in a place like Colorado, for example, and not even being able to stick a shovel in the ground for three to five years, that's ridiculous. That's got to change.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's beyond ridiculous. The reality is that how are we supposed to compete with China when they can slap up a coal plant every week?
SPEAKER 11 :
Tomorrow.
SPEAKER 16 :
They can build a new coal plant.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. Yeah, and we can't.
SPEAKER 16 :
Every week they're building a new coal plant.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they don't even want us to build. They don't even want us to burn coal.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, but they can put one up every week. No, you're exactly right. Okay, where do folks get the books? Reshore How Terrorists Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you can get the book on Amazon.com. It's also available directly from the publisher at calamopress.com. And then my content, you can always find me on X at Real SP Morrison.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Spencer. I appreciate it very much. Thanks a lot, my friend. You bet. Have a great night. Spencer Morrison, again, reshore how terrorists will bring our jobs home and revive the American dream. And with that, we've got a very special interview, or I should say some informative things from Golden Eagle Financial. Let me just say it that way.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I'm doing great. How are you, TJ? I'm doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I don't prepare my clients' taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it's working.
SPEAKER 09 :
And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, with so many different taxes we're faced with, it becomes an important thing to take into consideration. It's not how much income you have, but how much you get to keep. In addition to federal and state income taxes, there's property taxes, state and local sales tax, and fees. And they all play a part in shrinking our income.
SPEAKER 09 :
What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won't they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it depends. Everybody's situation's a little bit different. There's no one size that fits all when it comes to tax planning. But often when I work with people, we'll create a strategy where we will convert traditional IRAs to Roth over time. And that not only reduces taxes in the future, but it will also lower the tax they'll be paying on their Social Security.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not at all. Many of my clients who have modest IRAs have chosen to convert to Roth over time. They enjoy the freedom of having a tax-free nest egg that they can access on their own timeline rather than an RMD schedule.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that is excellent. And how can people reach you if they want to learn about their own taxation in retirement?
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You can reach me through KLZ or contact my office at 303-744-1128. And when you call, I'll provide you with a summary of all the tax changes for 2025.
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SPEAKER 11 :
All right, I've got a couple minutes here before we go to the bottom of the hour break. And I'm going to go back to something I talked about earlier in regards to a lot of the infighting that's happening inside of the Colorado GOP. And in particular, a post that's been put out by a gentleman by the name of Mark Hampton. I don't know Mark at all. Frankly, I don't care to. I think he's a bully. And I don't associate very well with bullies on any level. Period. Just because I don't like that approach. And I'm sorry. Yes, I get I'm a talk show host. I can say all sorts of things here. Some people might think, well, geez, John, you're just you're a bully on the radio. Well, not really. I give all sorts of people ample time. They can call. They can talk. They can text and so on. Now, I will say this. I've only ever. blocked on the text line a handful of people and frankly only because when you get to be a total moron and you will not have any kind of reason at all in what you're basically trying to tell me and you're not listening to any reason yeah i'm done i'm not going to fight with idiots Sorry, I just won't. I've got better things to do. My time is too valuable for me to text back and forth with idiots. And I've only ever banned a couple of different individuals from being on this particular program or any of my programs, for that matter, period. And that's a pretty good stretch to be here as long as I've been doing this over all of these years and only have a couple of different callers that I will not allow on air to talk. That's actually a pretty good track record on my part, I think. So my point is I'll pretty much talk to anybody and let somebody have their 10 minutes of stardom, if you would, and give me their opinion on things and so on. But in the case of Mark, I don't think that he's got – I'm sorry to say this. He just doesn't have any reasoning in his pea brain. I won't read the entire thing that he wrote, but he basically goes into a diatribe about Dave Williams and how he was great for the GOP here in Colorado and how much money he actually saved the GOP. And because of the way that he structured his own payments as chair, running them through Fox Group, LTD, how much money that actually saved the party. And yes, there is some savings when... you as an employer are paying somebody as a contractor, you know, a 1099 type basis, if you would, versus actually writing them a payroll check. Yes, there's some savings, and I'm fully aware of that. Although the diatribe that Mark gets into on assuming that Dave did that only to help out the GOP, I think that's a stretch, and let me explain. So anytime somebody is a 1099 contractor, or have their own business, if you would, as in the case of Dave. It's still a contractor, but he's working on behalf of the party to do X, Y, Z and getting paid to do so, and he ran it through a company rather than getting a payroll check, which a lot of you get a W-2 at the end of the year. You're getting a payroll check. That company is taking out taxes, paying the government, and so on, all on your behalf. By the way, it's one of the biggest complaints I've always had as an employer is why am I the tax collector? It chaps my hide. That part I absolutely despise. The government has quasi made me the tax collector for free, and it's not right. That's a whole other conversation probably for another day that just grinds on me that very few people ever talk about, frankly, because most people in media have never written a payroll check. So they have no idea what I just said. But the reality is that's how it works. So you can, in this particular case, Dave decided that he's going to be his own company, and he's going to take his $200,000 that you get as chair. I'm going to go ahead and run that through my company instead of actually being paid with a payroll check, which I will say straight up, that's wise. I don't think Dave did that. to save the party money, by the way. Sorry, Mark, but he didn't do that to save the party money. Dave was self-serving in that manner. And frankly, I don't blame Dave. I'm not knocking Dave because let me explain. When you're your own company and you're being paid, in this case, by the Colorado GOP, because you're your own company, you have the ability tax-wise to do things with that company that enable you to have expenses and deductions and things that you wouldn't get by just getting a W-2. For example, if Dave wanted to say that, you know, I need a vehicle to do what I'm doing for the state party and others as a part of my, you know, Fox Group LTD, I need a vehicle to be able to drive around. Well, he can go buy said vehicle and depreciate that off and have an expense for said vehicle right inside of that particular company. Those of you that have companies know exactly what I'm talking about. And most likely, if Dave was smart, he did that. And again, I'm not judging him. That would be the way to do it. Where I'm at with this is Mark's explanation. This is where it gets funny. While accurate, it's misleading. In other words, he's he's accurate in talking about how it does save the party money by writing a check to a company, not an individual, because there's no matching FICA tax and unemployment and other things that you would actually have in all of that. You're not writing a check as an employer for those, quote unquote, benefits. benefits and things that happen inside of a normal employee-employer relationship. When you just hire a company to work for you, you avoid all of that. So I get the fact that there's some savings there, and he's correct in that, although when he gets into the taxable side of what Dave owed and what Dave sacrificed to do this, he's completely wrong. Because, frankly, unless he's seen Dave's tax return, he has no idea what Dave did. And I venture to guess he hasn't seen Dave's tax return. So Mark has no idea what Dave is doing in regards to the income coming into Fox Group, how he's putting deductions into Fox Group, how those things are being handled. And keep in mind, too, that I've seen this on the FEC report. Dave also reimbursed himself for mileage and a lot of other things that he did, which that's where it gets a little bit dicey, because if Dave, for example, was in fact – using his own vehicle and depreciating that vehicle inside of Fox Group, but yet getting mileage reimbursement for that, that's technically not allowed. You're not supposed to be able to do that. Now, Dave could charge an additional fee if he wanted to, but to have a mileage reimbursement, yeah, that's not kosher. You technically can't do it that way. And I'm not a CPA, I'm not an accountant, but I just know that those are things that you can't do, but he did. He did. So again, Mark, if you're listening or anybody wants to send this off to Mark and even have him listen to this, while you're technically correct in some of these things that you explained, you're incorrect in a lot of the ways you explained them. And you assume a lot of things that frankly are probably not true. Because the way you stated how much taxes Dave paid in relation to the way that he structured his own pay inside the party are probably very wrong. In fact, I would bet they're wrong. In fact, I know they're wrong. Now, he goes into talking about how that all of us that have an IQ of 70 or less would have no idea how all of this works. So, of course, we're just going to run with this narrative that Dave committed fraud, which, by the way, I've never accused Dave of committing fraud at all inside of the party. I've said that I think he's very crooked. I think he's very crooked in the way that he does his dealings and so on. I wouldn't trust him as far as I can throw him. But I've never I've never accused Dave of committing fraud. And by the way, I don't think anybody has. What's happening inside of the party now is we want an audit of what's gone on. Where has all the money gone and for what? Let's have an accounting of. Let's have a forensic audit so we know exactly where these things are at. And let's start out that way moving forward. And by the way, I'm all for that. In fact, had Dave been smart back when he took things over from KBB, Christy Burton Brown, and he was claiming how messed up everything was, financially speaking, and Tom Bjorken, if you're listening as well, all of you that claim that everything was so messed up under KBB, why didn't you do your own audit? And here's what they're going to say. We didn't have any money to do it. That's BS. Yes, they did. They most certainly did. You can look at the FEC reports and determine that, yes, they did, in fact, have money. It's a matter of what they chose to spend that money on. That's what it boils down to. And they chose to spend it on different things than that. Now, where I'm accusatory of the past administration and how they ran things is, and by the way, it's the same thing that they accused KBB of, and that is paying a lot of their cronies, you know, the inside cronyism that went on on who we paid who to do what is outlandish. You can look at the FEC report and prove that. Eric Grossman. who is now running a doge-type site for Colorado, was the, was, what's that, Charlie? Thank you, a fake doge site, because it's not real. But they're accepting donations and so on. They're running it much like you would a nonprofit or a PAC, and I haven't looked into all of that yet. Some others are, so I may just let them finish their work, and I'll just wait and see what the findings are. But Eric Grossman, who, by the way, is from the southern part of the state, who, frankly, most people have never heard of, other than probably from me talking about him on air, he was the party planner for the party when it came to their events. He was the special event planner that I did tons of research on and could never figure out what type of party he ever planned prior to coming on board with the Colorado GOP. So in other words, his special event company that he owned had never planned a special event for anybody that I could determine prior to coming on board with the Colorado GOP. So anybody that's in that realm, I'd love for you to text me and tell me what Eric did prior to the Colorado GOP besides being a mayor and being involved in some politics and so on. Would somebody please tell me what Eric did as far as party planning goes, event planning goes prior to coming on board with the Colorado GOP and now running a Doge site for Colorado? I also would like to know what kind of experience does a guy like Eric Grossman have when it comes to analyzing state expenditures and where there's waste? Because frankly, the party up until now... didn't do anything along those lines when it came to forensic audits and so on. Tom, you as the previous treasurer, and you're claiming that this particular administration now that's in there is doing some of these audits and they don't need to because of this, that, and the other, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, then, Tom, why didn't you fix some of those things prior to this administration taking over? If you were such a great accounting wizard, why didn't you fix them? Why didn't you get the answers needed prior to the next group of individuals taking over? And where I'm going with this, folks, is there's always these accusations flying both sides of the aisle. I get it. You know, both sides of the of the argument, I guess I could say, because this is all on the same side of the aisle. But we're arguing and a lot of us were arguing over the way things were run up to this point. And by the way, rightfully so, because they weren't run correctly before. I don't care what you say. Some of you that have texted me, it's funny. Some of you that texted me on how great Dave was doing and the lawsuit and all of those things, you've gone deathly quiet since Dave didn't win his lawsuit. Since it's been determined that there really wasn't any reason for Dave to go out and hire and spend $100,000 on attorneys. It's interesting that none of you that have been texting me in the past as to how great Dave was have said a word since. Where are all of you? Why have you stopped texting? Why have you stopped going to bat for your boy Dave? Are you finally turning the corner, realizing what a scoundrel he actually was, or what? But yet there's still guys like Mark Hampton out there running around that's going to basically, you know, King Dave does nothing wrong. You know, let's bow and eat a Dave. You know, the ultimate hero of the Colorado GOP, which, by the way, is laughable. I've talked about all the things over the past two years that didn't happen in the party, the things that Dave did do, the amount of isolating that he did, the amount of counterattacks he did against even candidates that were running for office here in the state. And I can go down the list. I won't. I've talked about him, you know, literally. And by the way, I don't know what his IQ is, but he acts like he's got an IQ of 70. And just the name-calling that's going on from that side of the aisle to the current folk that are now running the party, I just find it ironic that you all that are doing the name-calling... Are the same ones that wanted to throw everybody else under the bus. Everybody's a rhino. Nobody that agrees with you is a rhino. On and on we go. You're turning out to be exactly what Andy and I have said now for over two years. You're just a bunch of loons. Your credibility is continually waning. You've lost every little bit of it that you maybe once had. And those of you that are listening to me that are in that group, you better quit while you're ahead or you're going to go down in history as just a bunch of morons. Stop. You're not helping yourself. You're not helping your cause. You're not helping what you consider to be grassroots. And on and on I go. I mean, the reality is, just stop. You're not helping yourself. You're hurting yourself with every little bit of press that you put out, like what you did with this particular post from Mr. Hampton. You're not helping your cause. You're making it worse. So I would encourage all of you that are on that side of the aisle to, if nothing else, just shut up. If you don't want to be on board with this particular group of individuals, that's fine. But stop your sniveling and whining. Stop your sniveling and whining. And if nothing else, try to disprove some of the things that I've mentioned here throughout this particular segment. And I could literally break down every single sentence word by word that Mark put out and show you the error of his ways. But I don't need to. I don't have that energy that time. I'm not going to do it. The reality is, like I said earlier. while somewhat correct in what Mark said, he is completely incorrect in his explanation of and has no idea when it comes to what Dave did with his own company structure, taxes, and so on. So unfortunately, Mark is completely wrong in what he put out because of that particular fact of what I just stated. a moment ago. Geno's Auto Service coming up next, and Geno's wants to take care of you and your vehicle. Steve Horvath, the owner, was with me this past Saturday on Drive Radio. They want to keep your vehicle running as long as possible. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, something that some of you may have noticed, some of you may have not seen, and this one I haven't talked a lot about. And I always hesitate to talk about these sorts of things because I hate— talking about our own, much like I hate these conversations that I just had, even about our own party here in Colorado, although I've been talking about that one for a while because I want to see the party go the right direction and start making some inward positive notes when it comes to electing people because we wouldn't be having some of the issues that we've got going on down at the Golden Dome, which there's been a lot of things that are out there that some of you have even asked me to talk about that I have avoided because I hate to say this at the end of the day, good luck. Me talking about it is not going to change anything. Everything from the gun thing that has passed that Paul assigned to the whole transgender end of things and parental rights and so on. I mean, I can talk about that stuff, but no offense, you guys all know about it already. You read as much about it as I do. What's there to talk about? Until we get some solid influence down at the Golden Dome, it's irrelevant. The talk needs to be, how do we get people elected that can be there to make change? Because when you don't have a seat at the table, no change can be made. So, yes, I hesitate to talk about people on our side of the aisle, although you guys also know me, and those of you that know me from the left, I don't mince any words. I'll say things from both sides of the aisle about both sides of the aisle because it is what it is. So, Candace Owens. who I'll be straight up honest, I've played her on this program. I've never interviewed her on a personal level. I don't think, Charlie, in all the years we've done this, I don't think I've ever interviewed her. I've interviewed people that have been close to her, know her, things like that, but I've never interviewed her personally. I will say straight up that even up till now that I agree with everything Candace did. No, I didn't. I think there's some things that even before now Candace has been very wrong on. But she has been fired recently. from the Daily Wire because of her stance on Jews and anti-Semitism. And I'll just say it straight up. I think Candace has gone off the rails. I'm sorry. She just has. I don't know what has happened to her of late. I've read different theories that people have about her and concerning her, and I don't know her, so I don't know the answers. There's theories that, you know, she's done certain things because of monetary reasons and so on. And, folks, I don't know. I can't prove any of that, so I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know where her views on certain things. I do know that she does not like the current state of Israel. She doesn't like those that are in leadership. Fine, that's her prerogative. But to throw in... all of the Jews in the Jewish nation and basically be against them because you don't like the way the country's being run, I think is very poor. And by the way, she's not there on a daily basis, so to even say that the country's not being run properly, that'd be like a Canadian telling us that Donald Trump isn't the right guy for the office. And there's a lot of Canadians that think that, by the way. I've got something I was going to play in regards to Canada. If I get time, I will. But regardless, Candace has been fired. She is no longer with the Daily Wire. Now, where does she go from here? I don't know. She's kind of been doing her own thing and trying to go off, I think, kind of in her own way up until now. And at this point, she'll have to do that. But I'm sorry to tell Candace she's not Megyn Kelly. She will not have the platform and be able to do what Megyn Kelly did because she's not Megyn Kelly. She's not as popular. She's not as – how do I want to say this, Charlie? She's just not as fun to listen to typically, topically speaking. She gets off – Candace can really get off on some of these weird sort of tangents if you would, and she can literally dedicate – Several different episodes of – I don't know whether she does podcasts or it's Daily Wire stuff or whatever, Charlie, but she can literally get off on these tangents and dedicate several different episodes to the same topic where it's like, okay, yeah, we get that. Move on. So she's not – She's not Megyn Kelly. She's not going to be as popular as Megyn Kelly. Megyn was able to go out on her own and do her own thing and has done very well at it, by the way. And Megyn made a huge turn. Keep in mind, at one point in time, she and Donald Trump were arch enemies. They have since buried the hatchet. Megyn is very much on the Trump side of things and talks about a lot of the things that I do on a regular basis. And again, do I agree with every single thing Megyn does? No. But by and large, are her and I pretty close? Yes, we are. Do I like Megyn? Yes, I do. I didn't when she was against Trump, but I do now. And, again, I don't know why Candace has gone off the rails. I had a lot of respect for Candace up until, frankly, about a year or so ago. She got off on some different tangents, and it's like, why are you going down that path? I just don't see where this is going to end well for you. And now she's gone down this path of really coming out, and it's seemingly at least the impression that she's giving is she's an anti-Jew. And I just don't know why you'd want to go down that path. So she has been fired. She will no longer be there. Candace insists that she is not an anti-Semite. But her actions, by the way, don't say that. 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All right. I was talking to Charlie during the break, and I just remembered what Candace Owens, where she went down this whole rabbit hole of things that, frankly, when she did, I sort of stopped listening. I don't know how else to say it. She would, you know, there'd be a video, a TikTok, Instagram or whatever. And I just sort of like, yeah, OK, whatever, Candace. And that's after she went down this path of going after the prime minister's wife of France or president of France, whatever you call him. Bridget McCrone. She went in. Candace went into this entire like diatribe and went down this whole path of she was born a man. Now she's a woman and she's a transgender and blah, blah, blah. And to the point where I think even the French president threatened Candace. And there was this whole, you know, shebang over all of that whole to do over it. And I'm one of those where it's like, who cares? I mean, honestly, who cares? It's France. They're weird anyways. Who cares? I'm sorry if you're from France, but weird. I mean, I don't care. I don't care that she's a transgender. I mean, at that time she was going through all of that. We had all sorts of issues going on here in our own country. Now, what I told Charlie during the break, and I'll tell all of you, if there was an idea that Jill Biden herself was a transgender, then there might be a story there. I'm not sure what kind of a story, but there might be a story there. But at the end of the day, this whole thing with France and Candace going down that rabbit hole, where I'm not joking, she spent on her program weeks, and I'm not exaggerating, weeks. I think even did Charlie a documentary or something along these lines, if I'm not mistaken. I mean, she really went down a huge rabbit hole of, is Bridget Macron a man? And I think there is like a documentary or a short film or something along those lines. I'm looking at it. It's on IMDB, so I'm correct on that, Charlie. She actually did an actual like series on this. And again, at the end of the day, who cares? So you take that and then you go down this path that she's doing now of really people are accusing her of being anti-Jew. Bad move on her part. Whoever, if anyone is advising her, they're doing a very poor job of it. Charlie told me something during the break, and I think he's correct. Candace has always seemed to be one of those people that she wants to be the shock jock in the room. She wants to bring you the most shocking thing she can, even if it means she has to do an apology after because maybe it's not quite right. She kind of at times wants to be Alex Jones. Is that a good way to say it, Charlie? Because that's what he does. He's this big shock jock. Unfortunately for Alex, he's wrong 90% of the time. Somebody else, by the way, that kind of fits into that, and I saw some posting on some things that she had said today, Pam Geller. which some of you I know follow her and you think she's great. I don't, by the way. I don't follow Pam. I think she's a wackadoodle. And Laura Loomer is another one. Neither one of them will I follow. I think both of them are way out there. And there are other ones that, by the way, do some of these things just because they get more notoriety and because of the more notoriety, they make more money. No, Charlie, they didn't used to be. Thank you. No, at one time, those were both very sane, I think very down-to-earth women that really had good center and had things handled pretty well. And then something went awry. And I don't know what, but something went awry. And would I look at anything Laura Loomer or Pam Geller, either one, say? No, I don't find either one of them to be that respectful at all. In fact, they're wrong more than they're right. I'm just telling you, they're wrong more than they're right. Where I got on the Pam Geller thing is where there was supposedly an article she put out today that Alberta wants to become the 51st state of the U.S. They've started some sort of petition. They have 170,000 signatures. Okay, so they do. They're not going to become the 51st state, folks. I'll bet my life on that. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. Pam can put it out. That's shocking news. It ain't going to happen, folks. Anybody that's repeating that even, you're a dodo head. Not going to happen. You can talk about it all you want. While it's a nice idea and it'd be great, it's not going to happen. Period. You think Canada's going to allow that to happen? It's not going to happen. So why talk about it? Why waste any breath on that? Because it isn't going to happen. But that's the kind of stuff that, in this particular case, Pam Geller has put out. And again, Laura Loomer, I mean, she's the same way. Some of these people will put stuff out there. And again, it's nothing more than for a shock effect. I was talking about another talk show host here in the Denver area earlier, talking about tariffs and things along those lines. Folks, and I hope I say this the right way. I try to be as unbiased – we all have bias – but I try to be as unbiased about certain things as I can. I try to look at things very reasonable. And I don't go after the shock effect on this show. And maybe it's because – and Charlie and I were talking about this during one of the breaks – maybe it's because this isn't my only gig. This is not my only source of income. I don't – frankly, folks, and I'm not trying to say this in any kind of a rude or mean-spirited way against Crawford Broadcasting – I could make more money not doing this show. I have other businesses, other interests, and other things that I honestly could go do that I'm not joking would generate me more revenue and income, profit, at the end of the year. And I could make more money, financially speaking, by not being on Air Every Day. And I'm not saying that to be mean or rude. I'm very thankful to be here. I enjoy sitting in front of this microphone. I enjoy talking to all of you. But I'm not in it for the money. I guess that's ultimately what I'm trying to say. I'm not here for the money. I'm like Trump in that way. I'm not here for the money. I'm here because I like being here. I like talking to all of you. I feel like I'm doing my part to maybe help set the record straight in a lot of areas and even get Colorado back on track in a lot of ways, get the country back on track. That's why I'm here. I'm not here for the cash. I don't think a lot of talk show hosts, by the way, can say that, especially in this town. Most of them are in it, maybe with the exception of one other. Most of them are in it for the cash. It's their only source of income. So they have to pour every single thing they can into it, and the more clicks and likes and views and listens and all of that that they get, that's how their worth goes up, and that's how they make more money at the end of the day. I don't have to do that, folks. That's not what I'm here for. I'm not here for ratings. I'm here to get as much information out to all of you as I possibly can, try to set the record straight in as many areas as I can, try to get all of you to think more independently as you can, so that at the end of the day, we have a better country, better state, better city, and so on. That's what I'm here for. So I don't do a lot of those shocking things that you'll see a lot of other hosts and folks do. I guess because I'm not that person anyways. Charlie knows that. He's known me for a very, very long time, even before doing this daily program. I'm just not that person. But on top of that, I don't have to. And if I had, I'd have to go find something else to do. Because I can't do what Pam Geller and Laura Lomer and Alex Jones and even now Candace Owens. I can't do that, folks. That's not in my nature. I'm not that person. and even some other hosts in town. I'm not that person. I can't do that. I will always try to give you guys what I feel is the most accurate, presentable information that's out there at any given time. If I make a mistake, I'll come back on and talk about a mistake that I have made. I'll set the record straight. I try to be as honest with all of you as I possibly can, and I am not here for the flash. I am not here for the clicks. It's why I'm not huge on social media, folks, because I don't care. I don't care at the end of the day. That's not why I'm here. 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All right, folks, that's it for today. Hope you guys all have a fabulous evening. Try to stay dry tomorrow. We do have a lot of weather coming in, so stay safe. One last thing. I should have done this as a PSA earlier. I haven't done it yet this year. If you don't know how deep the water is that you're driving through, don't. I'll leave you with that. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Join us for an engaging discussion on the nuances of the gun-collecting world with Rick Wilson. From vintage Colts to Winchester rifles, discover the stories behind these historic firearms and their cultural significance. Get an inside look at the upcoming 59th Annual Colorado Gun Collector Show, and learn how this event brings together enthusiasts and collectors from all walks of life.
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Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Just a quick reminder now, you miss our live show on Saturdays, which is 1 to 2. You can catch us twice on Sundays. That's at 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. And then also on the following Thursday at 9 a.m. You'll get to hear Sportsman of Colorado. So hopefully one of those four times will work out for you. If you miss it all, of course, you can get our podcast anywhere you get yours and also at sportsmanofcolorado.com as well. Well, you've been hearing a lot of different folks from the Colorado Gun Collector Association over the last several months and, hey, all in promotion, a lot of, for their big upcoming show, their expo, May 17th and 18th. at the Island Grove Event Center. And this is the 59th annual Colorado Gun Collectors Show. And I have been up there a few times years back, but I'm planning on going this year. And we hope you'll make your plans to go there as well. And glad to have Rick Wilson with us. Rick has been duly appointed the new president. Is it president, chairman, king of Colorado gun collectors? What's the title?
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Well, in the minutes for the meeting, we call it president, but that's as far as it goes.
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All right. Good deal. Well, Rick, let's learn a little bit about you. What got you into the collecting side of things?
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Well, I was a city kid, and my uncles lived in Colorado, and they went hunting all these times, and I just thought that sounded like great fun. I was just so... uh, interested in hunting and things. I wanted to be like my uncles. I wanted to go back to Colorado because at the time I lived in Virginia.
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Okay.
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So I got started into hunting when we moved back to Colorado. Eventually I loved hunting. And of course, you know, with hunting, you run into guns. I just became fascinated with guns. There's so many different types out there. Right. And so, uh, as, as along with hunting, uh, Collecting guns and having an interest in guns has just lasted my whole life, and it's my major hobby.
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Wow, that's cool. And, you know, it is interesting that we've probably had a half a dozen different people in here from your organization, and each one of them seem to have their little favorite niche that they like to collect in. Does that make up a lot of your groups?
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Uh, I think that's, that's correct. Now, a lot of people will go around the room when we have a monthly meeting and people say, what do you collect? And they'll say, well, I collect general, you know, a little of this, a little of that, but everybody does have a favorite. You know, like I like Winchester's and Marlins, the old lever guns from 120 years ago, but I've still been fascinated with world war two military, world war one, the civil war. Um, Even brown buses from the Revolutionary War. It's like a virus. You just, you know, you get addicted.
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And, you know, my wife, she'll walk in and I'm watching some Western. She's like, why do you watch those? And she'll walk in. You've seen that. 50 times because i've seen it 50 times walking in here and i go i know but you know when you look back at a lot of the old western man there are some i don't know what all the guns you probably can look at them and tell what they're shooting with a lot of these guns but what were a lot of the cool guns so to speak with you know whether it be the handguns the pistols or you know and some of the rifles they use in the lever action
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Well, you're right. I was very interested in the Westerns when I was a kid. That was the period when Westerns were a big deal. So a lot of Colt single-action .45s, the Winchesters 94 and the 92, of course. Those are the main ones. Once in a while, somebody would have a Sharps rifle, like Quigley down under, shot a Sharps.
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You remember the movie Tom Horn with Steve McQueen?
SPEAKER 05 :
I remember the name, and I remember Steve McQueen, but I can't place that.
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Boy, there's a rifle in that that's so cool. I'll have you look that up and report back because, man, that is a cool rifle he uses.
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Well, there is one where it's kind of sawed off, and he used it like a machine gun.
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Oh, yeah. Now, that was Wanted Dead or Alive. That was a series he was in. Okay. Yeah, that was really cool. Yeah, long top holster on his side.
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Right. That was really neat. And the rifleman, he had a similar gun like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They could handle those, too. Right.
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But it's interesting that a lot of those movies, if you look back now, you can tell that those were props. They're, you know, a 94. They took the wooden forearm off so it would look like a Henry rifle or something. You know, so an advanced collector can say, oh, that's, you know, they turned that into something else. Wow. But at the time, you know, it goes so fast, you only see it for a second. And it just fits in the movie and you don't pay attention.
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Right. Have you ever been up to the Cody Firearm Museum?
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Oh, many times. I belong to the Winchester Arms Collectors Association. Isn't that unbelievable? It is.
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The curator that used to be there several years back, her name was Ashley Urbinski, and she invited us up one time and took us on a really neat tour of that place. And, man, she knew every gun that was in there. I mean, she was so sharp. And she took us through kind of the Hollywood section there of different guns, Jimmy Stewart, Winchester 73, different things like that. And it was really, really neat. So when you look at the evolvement of guns over the 100 years, what's changed the most in them?
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Well, a lot of things are still the same, like semi-automatic rifles, which there is a bill in there currently to ban.
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Oh, man.
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Those have been around since 1900, even before 1900, 1898. They had magazine-fed semi-automatic guns, pistols mostly. So those are not that new, actually.
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Right. And, boy, just talking about that real quick, there's never been a time we're under such attack for our guns than now.
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Well, that's really true. A lot of city people, they're several generations away from farming or ranching. Or, you know, back 150 years ago, everybody had a .22 rifle in their kitchen for varmints or whatever. But that day is gone. And so a lot of people, they're not around guns. They don't understand guns. They're afraid of guns. Right. So I think that's kind of been part of the problem.
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Right. Absolutely. Rick Wilson is with us. Once again, he is the new president for the Colorado Gun Collector Association. Hope you will mark the dates now, May 17th and 18th. They just have so many guns there. How many exhibitors will probably be there for that show?
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Well... Ordinarily, we have about 750 tables of guns. So some exhibitors have more than one table. There will be 25 to 40 exhibitors that are just exhibiting their gun display. They're not selling guns. They just have an educational display. They're competing for prizes. Who's got the best display? There's several categories. There's antique firearms. There's modern firearms. military firearms, there's something for everybody that would be interested in seeing those displays, I think.
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Right. And you were kind of telling me before we came on air here a little bit about move-in and different things. So let's kind of walk through your show there and kind of tell people what dates and how it all works.
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Okay, sure. Well, we have this show once a year. So it's a big thing. And we probably have more displays than any show in the country. There's a few large shows in the country. We have the most displays, so we're kind of famous for that. So in a lot of ways, we're the best display show in the country, which would mean the world because Europe doesn't have anything like this. So anyway, people move in the afternoon of Thursday. I think that's the 15th. Starting about 2 o'clock, the dealers will start to set up their tables and their displays. They can finish setting up Friday mornings. um and then once displayers are set up um all the displayers can go around and visit each other's tables meet old friends you know talk about good times and look for bargains that's what people love to do these dealers because it's closed to the public on friday unless you buy one of our vip passes gotcha okay uh the vip pass is good for three days but people love to go in on fridays and find those bargains and then saturday morning it's open to the public uh And then Sunday as well. And then we close a little bit early on Sunday because the dealers want to get on the road to Minnesota or wherever they live.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure. And so to get a table there, any specific qualifications someone has to have or how do they go about getting a table?
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Well, we bill our gun show as antique and collectible curio and relics. A curio and relic firearm is one that was made more than 50 years ago.
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Okay.
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So if it was made before 1975, it's a curio and relic at this point. Next year, it'll be anything before 1976. Okay. So anyway, that's the draw to our shows. It's about older guns. It's not modern guns. If you're looking to buy a modern weapon, then you need to go to one of the other gun shows. Right.
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Man, I graduated high school in 1976, and you're talking about it being antique almost. That's not nice. Well, you don't look like an antique, so how's that? Okay. you know let's talk about some of the when i say personalities in the colorado gun collector association like i say we've got to meet about a half a dozen of them doing these shows once a month but it's it's it's quite the group and different you know people came from different backgrounds different things but they still have a love for collecting so kind of tell us a little bit about the group itself
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Okay, well, you're right. It's very eclectic. We have people that worked at Safeway for 30 years. We have... We have lawyers. We have doctors. People from all walks of life. People in business. And you're right. They can be very knowledgeable about one specific area of collecting. Like somebody might put a display on with a hundred Colt 1911 pistols. Or somebody might have Civil War guns. Every gun show. They'll have a display of that. And they're very knowledgeable. So that's the neat thing about our show is people can come there, even if you're not that interested in guns. If you like history, you can come in and talk to these people with these displays and learn so much and have a very entertaining afternoon.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, some people come to your show and maybe bring a gun or a knife or something like that, maybe from military, and try to just find out what in the world they have because they don't know it was maybe something passed down to them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure, that's exactly right. People come in, they want to know what their gun is, they want to know what it's worth. Maybe it's their great-grandfather's gun, and they've had it for all these years in the closet, and they don't know what to do with it, and they get it out and say, I don't know anything about this. And so that's a great place to go, because I guarantee you there'll be somebody there at the show that knows about that gun, and I've been doing this for 50 years, and Even today, I'm learning about new guns I've never heard of.
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Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
So anyway, if people want to do that, learn about their gun, learn how much it's worth, even if people want to say, I want to get rid of this gun, I don't know what to do with it, dealers there would love to talk you out of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Yeah, absolutely. So Winchester and Marlin.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what got me started.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's what got you started.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Winchesters, and then I found out about Marlins. And the neat thing about Marlins is they made lever actions at the same time, but they weren't as publicized. And they have case-colored receivers, which is case coloring comes after you quench your gun and case harden the receiver. It has these fabulous colors on it, but it wears off quickly. That's why Winchester got rid of the case-colored receivers. 1873s and then started to blue the guns like the 92 the 94 and 86 and uh the later guns but i love marlins for the beautiful case colors and the beautiful mechanisms they eject out the side versus out the top like the winchesters did right so they're easier to mount a scope on for instance which one would you shoot if you were in a western a marlin or a winchester
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Which one would you shoot?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. I'd shoot them both.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love them both. I think sometimes, too, I've heard of people saying, oh, I've got this old gun. I'm going to take it somewhere and get it re-blued and get it fixed. You really don't want to do that, do you, to older guns?
SPEAKER 05 :
We like to see all the original marks on the barrel. We want to see what the corners look like. We want to see what the blue looked like, even if it's worn and stuff. We can say, look at that wear spot on the forearm from the wood. Somebody's carried that over their saddle horn. For, you know, their whole life. Or tax in it. You know, maybe it was a Native American owned this gun and they put some tax in it and a decoration that was important to them. We love to see all that history. If you re-blue it, you erase all that history and it can't tell you anything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Once again, Rick Wilson is with us. He is the president of the Colorado Gun Collector Association. Hey, make your plans now to attend this great event. It's May 17th and 18th. It's the 59th annual Colorado Gun Collector Show. And, hey, this just happens once a year, so time to come out. Great family event. Hey, sometimes it's hard to find, but great time for the family to come out. And just see a lot of cool guns. And, I mean, I would assume it's something from every era that has anything to do with guns, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. Yeah. We have everything from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War. up through World War II, and even some people are displaying guns from Vietnam now, some of the veterans.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Tom Hellman, the former president, he brought in one day, he brought like seven or eight different type knives and things, which are cool. So we focus on Colorado gun collector, but there will be a lot of other things there too, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. There's all the other things that go with guns. We call them the accoutrements, reloading molds, or... pots and beadwork from native Americans. Uh, leather goods are a collectible item, you know, pistols, uh, they go on a holster or scabbards for a horse, uh, that you put on a horse that you can fit your Winchester in. Okay. Even those are collectible. Uh, several gun makers or, um, leather goods makers were right here in Colorado, um, down in Pueblo, uh, trinidad denver here with heiser um yes there's all sorts of things besides just guns right and tom himself he loves swords yeah that's what he collects and i look at a sword walk right past it right past it he says wow did you see this great sword it's from you know 1872 or something
SPEAKER 03 :
I tell you, when you do see some of these things and you think, man, this is what guys battled with. I mean, what we've got now, pretty easy to carry an AR or something like that. But when you look at some of these guns and the weight of them and loading, like a muzzleloader type gun, you know, where you're shooting one at a time and bad guys coming at you. Man, that was some serious war fight going on right there, wasn't there?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it was. And the modern guns, I own modern guns, but they're just tools to me. They're not fascinating or interesting like the old-time guns because they all have a story to tell, especially the military guns. They all had inspector marks and things, and when they were refurnished at the arsenal, you know, to— help them further their career, or if the military is going to get rid of them. They have all these markings from that. They tell this whole story. Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that's how you can tell a lot about the military, especially there's going to be special markings on many of those, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. I have a trapdoor Springfield, and it had a number 74 painted on the stock. So I asked one of the experts in that field, and I said, what does this mean? He says, oh, that's such a cool gun. That gun belonged to the New York 75th, 74th Volunteers, and they went to San Juan Hill. They were in the unit there right next to Taddy Roosevelt. And I had no idea.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
But I think that's such a cool story. Yeah, no doubt.
SPEAKER 03 :
No doubt. One thing when Tom and I met and started talking about doing some shows for you guys, just to let people know who you are and what you do, Tom said, man, I'd love to get some younger folks in this. And so what do people need to do if they want to apply to be a member?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we have a website. You can go there, fill out an application. But most people, they need to go to a show or come to some of our meetings. That's how I started. I started going to the meetings because I was interested in the guns. So if people have an interest, most of our members do not live here in the state. Oh, really? We have people from all over the country, and they have a membership because they get a discount on tables for our show. But anyway, it's easy to become a member. You need to have somebody sponsor you. So we want to know that you're serious about this, you're really interested, and you're not just some flaky guy trying to, you know, horn in someplace. But it's pretty easy. We're a nice group. I can't remember the last time we turned somebody down for membership. Sure. So if you have an interest in guns or history... I'd have you consider being a member.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And you all have meetings once a month, I think you said?
SPEAKER 05 :
We have meetings once a month. We put out a newsletter every month. I'm trying to get back to where we have an interesting topic discussed in the newsletter. Okay. So just from reading the newsletter, you can learn things about something else that you have no experience with. We also have a Facebook page. More people are visiting our Facebook page, and we link with other gun collectors groups. So there's always something interesting on there, even if it's the Virginia weapons collectors. I love to read about their latest meeting and guns they talked about.
SPEAKER 03 :
So do most states have some form of an organization like yours?
SPEAKER 05 :
I'd say most of them do, not all of them, and some have more than one. But most people live within a couple hundred miles of an organization that has a show. Okay, right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And Dave Wedel, I know Dave. I've known Dave for a long time, and we used to have his store on Broadway. You know, he wore a lot of cowboy action stuff there. Yeah, Dave's a really great guy, so we've got to get him on sometime as well. But anything else we want to mention today on it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think that's pretty good. I think if people have to drive a few hours to see the show, they might think about doing something else. Personally, since I love history, I love to hit all the museums on the way to someplace or on the way home. But, you know, people can come up for a few hours or they can come up for the weekend.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And, hey, you may think you're coming for a couple hours and end up spending the whole day because it's going to be a pretty cool show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, right. For me, I couldn't even see the whole show in two days because I want to look at everything. I want to look at all the displays. Right. Other people say three hours is enough. But one thing I would like to say is the gun control that's coming at us this year is the most severe I've seen in a long time, and it's affecting our show. They want to eliminate people from gun shows that don't have a federal firearms license, which is most of the collectors. We're not dealers. We don't sell guns. So most of us don't have a license. So we're working on that. They've instituted this law where you have to have not just a federal firearms license, but you have to have a Colorado license. licensed to deal guns and so that's going to eliminate a lot of our dealers so we're fighting for our existence i hope this is not our last show this year so come and see this show if in case it's not there next year but i'm going to work as hard as i can to make sure we're trying to do everything we can you know right on fighting the battle too so
SPEAKER 03 :
rick congrats on uh being the president and uh man hey that's that's that's a good tag with your name right there rick wilson president all right so man we appreciate it thanks for coming in oh thank you scott i've really enjoyed it you bet it's the colorado gun collector association may 17th and 18th at the island grove event center 59th annual show hey make your plans now to attend again we'll be talking about it still more here before that date so Thanks for being with us today for Sportsman of Colorado. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Leave it right here on KLZ 560.
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KLZ 560 AM, your home station.
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Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thank you so much for being with us. Well, the first of every month, our next guest will be our guest. Every Saturday, first of the month, of course, catch our replays as well. And I'll go ahead and mention that. Our live show is Saturdays 1 to 2. Then on Sundays, 8 in the morning, 8 at night. Hey, you can catch us twice on Sundays. Then the following Thursday at 9 a.m. So four times a week. And, of course, you can get our podcast anywhere you get yours. Our good friends from LT Arms in studio. Our very first show we did, I actually went over there and we recorded the show on location, but wanted to get the guys in the studio with us. So good to have you guys. Kyle, how are you, sir? Doing great. And that is Kyle Willey. He's the owner. And Evan Lee. Evan. Good to see you again, Scott. Good to see you. And the man, Brandon Anderson. He told me to say that. Okay, so he told me, he said when he introduced me, just say the man. All right. Thanks. Good to be here. Brandon Anderson.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good to see you. All right, Kyle, for those that maybe missed the first show with you guys, tell us a little bit about how LT Arms came about.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so as far as LT Arms, we're a one-stop shop for everything hunting. I tried to gear the shop towards that so that people could have a nice, warm environment to come to with knowledgeable staff to help them with all their hunting questions.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're still looking for that knowledgeable staff? Yeah, it's hard to find.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and you know what? It is really cool because every store – I mean, hey, there are some good gun stores in the area, okay? But every store kind of has their niche a little bit, you know? And what I'm picking up from you guys is you can't be everything to everybody, but yet, man, what you're putting together there with kind of a team from the gunsmithing side of things to some – different types of guns, periods of guns that you've got, a little bit with reloading. I mean, you're kind of getting that whole big old picture there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, with the staff that we have, between everyone there, we can – meet anyone's needs that they have anything from complete restoration to you know new builds to you know reloads and having everything that needs to be done in the firearm industry we can easily help them with all the knowledgeable staff that we have right they are located 8119 shaffer parkway in littleton and uh what are your hours So Monday through Friday is 10 to 7, and then Saturday we're open 10 to 4.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, good deal. All right, we could kind of make this a roundtable discussion or whatever, but, man, if we would have looked back a few years ago when you started this, we could have never dreamed the assault, I'll call it, on guns and gun ownership. Yeah. man and you speed it up to where we are right now and of course some things have been signed but those actually don't go into effect and hopefully they won't but until next year but let's kind of just open that up and just kind of talk and you know all you guys talk to customers on a daily basis and things so brandon i'll let you open it up what do what are you seeing with this gun laws and what are people talking about when they come in the store
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the SB3 got signed in about two weeks ago now. We get a lot of people coming in that they think that as soon as that was signed, it is concrete law right away. And, I mean, we've been getting a lot of phone calls with people asking, am I still allowed to buy these things? You know, when can I take the class so I can – get my permit to carry a detachable magazine semi-automatic gun. And it was signed into law. It doesn't actually go into effect until August of 2026, like you were saying. So you can still come in and get any of the stuff that you've previously been able to get. There aren't any restrictions yet on anything. There's a couple of lawsuits going on. So it looks like hopefully that will be tied up in court for the next few years and won't actually become a law. So there's, you know, a few organizations like the Colorado state student shooting association, gun owners of America and NRA, they're all teaming up to start a lawsuit. There's already a lawsuit going against proposition KK, which is the sales tax on firearms. So they're, they're trying to push back against that. The, uh, the social media bill that they tried to get going, got, vetoed and they tried to override the veto yesterday and that got shot down in the house so that's nice at least one you know one of the 15 gun bills they're trying to pass this year got shot down but they're yeah they're going they're going pretty hard with the the anti-gun legislation this year what are most people saying i mean when you evan i don't know if your interaction with customers too i mean what what are most people saying when they when they come in
SPEAKER 12 :
At first, we saw some panic buying from some of the newer customers that are getting into the firearms world for the first time. But a lot of the old guys who have seasoned and been through this a few times, the general consensus is this is ultimately going to get overturned. There's a Supreme Court precedent on this in New York and B.C. with previous decisions. It's clearly government overreach at the local level. And even some of our clients who do, let's just say, lean left a little bit more are even wildly opposed to this entire thing. Just they can't believe that this actually happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I don't even see a way to even – if it got to – to even administrate it. That, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
Dude, it could take – The cost of this alone.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, the time it could take someone to actually, you know, from the time they fill out paperwork to do all the things that they were listing there and then how CPW is going to manage that and orchestrate that. I mean, we can't even get like a –
SPEAKER 10 :
hunter safety class you know locally for some people to tell they're way backed up yeah yeah and so i mean how in the world is that going to work well the best part is with a lot of the laws now because for the concealed carry classes uh the sheriffs all the instructors have to be licensed with the sheriffs now That is in full effect now, and the sheriffs still have no clue how they're going to certify these instructors. So that was last year when that passed, and they still haven't figured it out. So it's like, how are they going to figure this out too? So they're passing all these laws, and then no one has any clue how to enact them or enforce them or anything like that. So it makes it harder for us gun shops.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right. And we're going to try to keep you informed as best we can with folks like this that are in it day to day but um i'm just telling you right now it's time to go buy a gun all right hey that's an easy thing to come right now and again we're talking to lt arms 8119 schaefer parkway in littleton all right um you got a cool event coming up i think in wyoming
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so we're going to the Central Wyoming Machine Gun Shoot. That's kind of middle of nowhere between Medicine Bow and Casper. As far as that, anyone's welcome to come. You just pay your admission and then there's going to be a ton of people there with machine guns. And you just pay for the ammo that you want to shoot. So it could get real expensive or you could have a fun time. Either one.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it's going to be real expensive to have a fun time. So let's just say somebody wanted to shoot, you know, a couple hundred rounds. I mean, any idea what kind of price tag we would just let them know that they would spend?
SPEAKER 10 :
So, I mean, for that, you could be, I mean, if you just stick with shooting 9mm machine guns, that could be fairly cheap and affordable. $200, you could easily have a fun day shooting 9mm. If you want to get into, you know, shooting the bigger calibers, you know, old historic World War II guns, .50 cals, all that, then you're getting a little more pricey. I mean, so I would say low-end, $200 to high-end, I mean, you could easily drop $10,000 if you wanted to go crazy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure, sure. Now, do they buy tickets just at the gate, so to speak?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's a $20 admission fee for a day pass, or they do have camping passes where you can stay. It's the 6th through the 8th of June, so you can spend all three days there, and it's $40 to camp all weekend. But, yeah, beyond that, you pay your admission fee, and then it's like a price per booth where you can go. There's tons of vendors up there. We're not going to be the only one. So you can make your way down the line. And, I mean, there's everything from old Gatling guns to miniguns. They have a night shoot with incendiary rounds like tracers and stuff with explosive targets and old cars and washing machines and Tannerite and all of the— All the fun stuff.
SPEAKER 12 :
Target-rich environment. Yeah, it's going to be American hard out there. And each of the participants is going to be bringing a particular sort of interest. A lot of these guys are collectors, and they've got older firearms. A lot of them are going to have more modern arms. The particular things that we offer, everything from modern 9mm AR platform type things, and we've got historic guns such as a German MG42, Browning 1919. Really neat stuff. Really neat stuff. And not a lot of times you get the opportunity to fire such a firearm.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, it's amazing. I've been able to do it a few times, but it's amazing. And I guess just use the term how much, if you're not familiar with that, how much that gun will walk on you. I mean, rise up. I mean, really quick. I mean, it's cool, though, man. And it's hard to even describe what it feels like just to hit that trigger and, man, just see holes fly. not experience full automatic it's the best roller coaster ride oh absolutely and people can't hey people say can you buy a machine gun yes you can right yeah yeah you can what are some that you guys maybe have or can get or for sale yeah yeah so as as far as some machine guns out there uh it has to be a post ban machine gun is one is the requirement for civilians to own them
SPEAKER 10 :
And as far as what options are out there, there's a handful of M16s and stuff like that. A lot of your old World War II machine guns are on the registry, so you can buy those. Your cheapest option is going to be around $30,000.
SPEAKER 1 :
$30,000.
SPEAKER 10 :
So that's the hard part there is it's supply and demand, simple economics there. Yeah. They're not making anymore, and as people use them, they die off and get worn out. We can restore them and get them back to working condition, but some of them are beyond repair, and so... The supply is dwindling, and the demand is going higher than ever. Sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
Once again, we're visiting with a crew from LT Arms. We've got Kyle Willey, the owner, Evan Lee, and Brandon Anderson with us. If you haven't been by the store, hey, highly recommend you go by. One cool part in the store, a lot of times you just walk in a store, and there'll be some guns on the rack or in cases or whatever, but you guys got what you call the library. So who wants to take that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so the library, it was kind of when I first started, I wanted to have a place to have people come and relax and enjoy. Because when I first started, background checks were only a couple of hours instead of the three-day wait that we have now. So I wanted a place where people could just sit and wait and relax. So I built it out to look real nice. So we have all of our old historical firearms on display. We have a ton of books. We have a nice cooler with some drinks in it that people can grab. And it's just a nice environment for people to come and sit and enjoy their time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And you got some pretty cool guns in there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So one of the collections that I tried to get was a general progression of military rifles. So I have everything from the, you know, flintlock rifle down to the M16. We don't have the MCX spear yet, but maybe we'll have that on the wall eventually.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Be sure and follow them on social media as well, especially their Instagram page and Facebook. What else, Erica? I'm sorry, what'd you say?
SPEAKER 12 :
Twitter.
SPEAKER 03 :
Twitter. Okay. We call it now. All right. X. Yeah. All right. Be sure and follow them in there. And Brandon, I guess I'll turn this one to you. But I saw, I think just a couple of days ago, you were talking about, hey, if folks were struggling in some areas, maybe, you know, mental health, different things like that. Sometimes there are some things you can get into legally where maybe you have to Can't have guns in the home for a little bit. You guys are offering a service there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we offer storage for people. So, yeah, if it's a mental health issue or if, yeah, there is a legal issue like domestic violence cases and things like that, we do offer storage for people. So, yeah, you can call us up or email us and set up an appointment and bring your stuff down, and we'll store it for you so that way – Whether it's court mandated or if it's just a personal issue where you want to get them out of the house, yeah, we'll do that for you and get them stored in a safe location so they're accessible in the future.
SPEAKER 10 :
And one of the big things there is no questions asked. We're not going to hound you and all that. We could care less. We just want people to be safe and have a good place to go home to. That way, nothing bad ends up happening. So that's something that we try to offer and just give them a safe space to come to.
SPEAKER 03 :
LT Arms, 8119 Schaefer Parkway in Littleton. You're listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We've got to hit a quick break, and we'll be back with more right after this.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. If you're just joining us, LT Arms is in the house. 8119 Schaefer Parkway in Littleton. We've got Kyle Willey, the owner, Evan Lee, and Brandon Anderson with us. And Evan, you were mentioning during the break, you know, in the library there, a few extra added values there. So tell us how you kind of set that
SPEAKER 12 :
People think library, they think you've got to stick your nose in a book, and that's not necessarily the case. There's a few screens around the shop, and there's a big one on the wall in the showroom and a big one on the wall in the library. And a lot of that content you see on there, those historical treatments about vintage gun riders or famous hunters or particular firearms or just characters from the Old West, we create a lot of content for our YouTube channel regarding those sorts of historical aspects of the firearms world. And they get a lot of play. People really, really enjoy those historical treatments. So those are playing in the shop all the time. And if you're sitting in the library waiting for a spot repair on a shotgun, you can enjoy a neat video and learn something about an old character from the Old West or an old gun writer from the middle of the 20th century.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, that's cool.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it's neat stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I think it is cool because, I mean, I follow you guys, of course. And just seeing little things you put out there, I mean, I don't care how long you've been hunting or shooting, whatever. Man, there's always something you don't know. It's a lifetime of learning, isn't it? and i mean it's cool to have you come on you know i've watched a lot of yours as far as from the reloading side and talking about cartridges and different things like that so let's talk about that area of it just a little bit from a reloading standpoint is that something that's that's on on the rise uploading or is that kind of leveled off these last years not too many people do
SPEAKER 12 :
It's funny you mention that because I had a class last Saturday and they just had the idea. Husband and wife came in and took a course from us and I got another one that's coming up next weekend. The interest seems to be getting up there again. They say about 10% of shooters are reloaders, but I'd like to see that jump up because once people learn the benefits to it. It's not much of an economic aspect. You're not saving any money. You're just going to shoot a lot more. But you're going to have a lot more accurate loads for your rifle. Another aspect of it, other than the classes, is we offer the loading of obscure and obsolete ammunition for older firearms to get them up and running again. We've had some really neat projects come in lately, and we can get those old rifles moving again for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. So if people want to get in a class, what do they do?
SPEAKER 12 :
I just call the shop. We book them at your convenience. We used to have a booking system online where we had them set scheduled on there, but a lot of folks just have these tight schedules these days. So you just call us, tell us when you can do it, when you want to do it, and we will book a three-hour window and do your class at your convenience.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. All right. Big test. Phone number?
SPEAKER 12 :
720-727-0400. All right. Hey, you pass.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Somebody says, I want to get into reloading. Mm-hmm. What's going to be that initial investment to really get what they need?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we carry a couple of different options for that. You can get a really nice introductory starter kit from some of the larger companies like Redding and RCBS for around $500. And that's going to be everything you need except for dies and a case trimmer. And a case trimmer you can kind of get into later. But under $600 for the tools you're going to need. Get a nice bench or a setup in a closet at home even. And then it's reloading. Your brass is the most expensive aspect of the ammunition. Cartridge cases, that's why we reload them. That's the most expensive part. So once you start getting a pile of cases built up from all your shooting, you can reload them for pennies compared to what you're spending on a round of loaded ammo from the factory.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. You know, you hear that a lot that, hey, hand loads are more accurate. Why is that? When you've got a factory supposedly with all the—
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, factory ammunition has never been better.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really?
SPEAKER 12 :
It is great. It really is. And it's going to do everything you want it to do. But if you want your rifle to do a little bit more, rifle barrels are kind of like thumbprints. Each one's a little bit different. Even though they're all made at the same factory, each one's going to react a little different. And once you figure out by experimentation and hand-loading with different powders and different projectiles. What that particular rifle likes, you can tighten up your groups. Wow, very cool. I've seen it done many, many times, and I've done it with many of my rifles, and it's a fun pursuit. One hobby feeds the other.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, absolutely. All right, hey, give the store a call at...
SPEAKER 12 :
720-727-0400. All right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sounds good. And, Kyle, another thing, again, I talked about, boy, you're kind of putting all the pieces to the puzzle when somebody thinks of a gun store or one area that's gunsmithing. And you guys kind of got that area covered in a great way, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, yeah, definitely. As far as gunsmithing, all of our gunsmiths come from a gunsmithing school, one or the other. We have one outlier that went to Trinidad, but the rest of them graduated from Colorado School of Trade here in town. It's a great option for people that want to get into the game, but the first thing people learn in school is they don't learn a lot when they get into the real world. And so that's one of the nice things is the expertise that we have. After they get out of school, they can progress and learn kind of, you know get more hands-on experience because with guns the biggest thing is everything's different i mean you can't it's not a textbook thing you can learn because there's so many different things that could go wrong and you have to be able to you know diagnose and repair right yeah absolutely once again it's lt arms 8119 shaffer parkway in littleton open monday through saturday for you and again great great group of folks there um and i'm telling you we can't well i've started i'm telling you i can't tell you now but we do have some news that will be coming right yeah uh great big news that uh is going to be coming down the pipeline here uh just a little teaser for those people out there you know make sure that you follow us and see what's coming and what's going to happen it's going to uh really catapult us into the next uh next level yeah absolutely now with the gunsmithing real quick you guys do cerakote you guys yeah i mean yeah so yeah we do complete uh finishing uh cerakoting case hardening bluing all that stuff in-house uh we have sources to do nickeling plating all that stuff uh depending on what someone wants their gun to look like uh i always tell people the only limitation is your imagination so wow okay
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and we can even do... We've been doing a lot of motorcycle parts and things like that. We do a lot of automotive stuff like exhaust manifolds, pistons. I mean, pretty much... Pretty much anything you can do Cerakote, because there's high-temp Cerakote that you can use for automotive stuff that, you know, performance parts and things like that. So, yeah, a lot of guys who build race cars, they get their pistons Cerakoted just because it makes them more durable and makes them last a little bit longer. Eric has gotten some motorcycle parts done recently, so, yeah. Motocross guys, car guys, anything like that, anything even beyond firearms, we can do for you, so...
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, cool. Suppressors, last year or so, have really gone.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, the suppressor game has really blown up in the last year or so. I think one of the things about that is the e-filing. It's so much quicker now to get a suppressor. Instead of waiting the year plus to get a suppressor, now, I mean, they're coming back anywhere from a week to a month. I think the longest one we've had has been – We've been pushing two months on some right now, but that makes it a lot more enticing for people. Because having to drop $1,000 on a suppressor and then wait a year and a half to get it, that wasn't fun. But also, now that it's becoming more available for people to get, one of the benefits is... It cuts back on recoil and sound mitigation. So the downside to a muzzle brake is it destroys your ears. And so this gives you the best of both worlds and people are seeing how it is. And so it's just, you know, word of mouth is working very well as far as the suppressor game.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep, absolutely. How's the process work in your store if they come to your store?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so how the process works is they come in. Just like any other gun, you have to decide what you want before you can start the paperwork because that serial number for the suppressor is tied to you. So they come in, pick the suppressor, and then we'll do your fingerprints and picture in the shop for you. And then we submit the paperwork, get all that picked out. You can pick between doing it individually or in a trust. Mm-hmm. And depending on how you want to do that, we can help you out with that as well. But I try to push people towards the trust because it just gives you the most versatility and user-friendliness. But from there, then it's just a waiting game once we submit it. And once it's approved, the customer will get an email. We'll get an email saying that it's approved, and then they come in and pick it up.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's $200 for the tax stamp, plus the cost of the suppressor.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. And then if they want to do a trust, depending on how they want to do the trust, there's fees in that as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right. What do you guys like in the suppressor world? Who are you kind of leaning towards? You think good suppressors these days?
SPEAKER 06 :
We just got a Lone Star from Texas. Yeah, we just got a new company in. It's a small company from Texas. It's making stuff. They come in nice wood presentation boxes. So, yeah, they're doing some really nice stuff. Dead Air stuff is, I mean, that's probably the one at the top that we do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dead Air and Silencer Co. are the big. brands right now that we're selling. And then yeah, Lone Star in Texas, they're a great option as well. But then a budget-friendly one would be Aero. Your Aero suppressor, it's not titanium. Titanium gives you a lighter can, but it costs a lot more. Aero's making a steel can for half the price of what most suppressors are. So that's a good option as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, all right. Last couple of minutes, let's talk about some of the classes that you're either offering or you're going to be offering. What are just some different classes that folks can contact you for?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you can think of it in the gun world, we probably have a class for it. But we offer reloading classes, an hour with a gunsmith to learn anything you want about a firearm. That's an option that we offer as well. And then self-defense classes, concealed carry classes, stuff like that. And then kind of just random oddball classes that we're offering starting in June. We're going to have two different kind of segments of just get to know what's going on. So there's a bunch of different options. If you can think of it, we probably have a class coming for it. So that's one of the nice things.
SPEAKER 03 :
Cool. Guys, our time goes too quick, man. But thank you guys for coming over to the studio and everything. Really looking forward to having you on here with us. And, folks, once again, great store, great group of folks working there. And I'm telling you, if you haven't been able to find some answers, maybe at some other gun shops, hey, Try LT Arms. Got a feeling they're going to be able to help you. 8119 Schaefer Parkway in Littleton. Hey, when you go in, let them know you heard them here on the show, and we would appreciate that as well. And, hey, great selection of ammo, different things. A couple of things in the store you've got good selections on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, a huge selection on bolt actions, ammo, reloading components, cleaning components, everything to take care of your firearms. And then we're also hunting necessities as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And you're going to be making some rifles.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, we will be. Yep, we'll have our own line of bolt-action rifles on the shelf here pretty soon.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, we'll save that until next time. All right, thank you guys so much. Once again, it's LT Arms. Get by and see them, and let them know Scott sent you. Thanks for being with us today for Sportsman of Colorado. Hope you have a great rest of your day. Leave it right here on KLZ 560.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man. Wow.
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Oh, my gosh. This is crazy. A Florida homeowner, because you know, iguanas are invasive species in Florida. That's what they're considered. A Florida homeowner found 98 iguana eggs in their backyard. And when they called the Humane Iguana Control Division of Florida Fish and Wildlife, they said that that was literally the most they had ever seen. in one uh one site and it was from i think they said uh three three different females that they because they i mean they tell people to hunt these things three female iguanas had nested in burrows they were all interconnected and each had their own clutch and they if they said it's a record the most ever they've never found in the history of the state they said iguanas are more than a nuisance They dig burrows that damages infrastructure, landscape destruction, health risks. You know, like the salmonella on the skin, all that stuff. They said that one even compromised an actual dam before. And it was a $2 million. They had $2 million of taxpayer money to fix it. Isn't that crazy? So that's... A Florida man was arrested because he had three different wives in three different counties, and that is a big, bad no-no. Ew. I think, did we have this before? I think we had this one. Yeah, I think I had this one last Friday, so we don't need that one again. Also, let's see here. I had another one. This, hmm. Couple hang on. I don't want to read that was gross. Not reading that one. A Florida man was accused of ramming into a Boca Raton fire engine. Apparently he was triggered. I've never seen a guy with such a large forehead in my life. It was a roadside outburst. It landed him in handcuffs yelled at firefighters hit their fire engine and sped off. And there was a call later on into police that said a vehicle was forcing other cars off the road. And they got this guy, 40-year-old Christian Diorcini, and he was screaming at firefighters. And that's when he backed into a fire engine, tried to speed off. They did catch him, and he had a DUI, left the scene of an accident, property damage, all kinds of stuff. So he was under some kind of influence per CBS 12. Yeah, I would say so. And I'm not going to have time for this one tomorrow. I'll tell you about the one who assaulted a gate agent at DFW, which you can't do. Our partners that help bring you the program, our friends over at All Family Pharmacy, they've got you covered, whatever it is that you need. Is it any of the medications or therapeutics that the system tried to keep from you during lockdown? You know, things like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, which are so completely safe to take. I mean, they even allow pregnant women. They sometimes will. Suggest hydroxychloroquine for them. Because you can't rush through experimental injections and hand Pfizer multi-billion dollar paydays if you don't ban therapeutics. This is the thing. They didn't just dismiss alternatives. They outright destroyed them. They wanted you to rely on the government and just listen to whatever they were ordering you to do. Well, things have changed, and there's All Family Pharmacy. All Family Pharmacy has your daily maintenance medications. They also have the ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, antibiotics, everything. Simple, fast, and affordable. No insurance, no problem. They've got straightforward pricing, online ordering, shipping in just two to four days, or overnight in a pinch if you need it. Everything is made in the USA. All of their medications are manufactured right here in the USA, ensuring high standards of quality and safety. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off using promo code Dana10. Don't wait. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family today. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Use coupon code Dana10 to save 10%.
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Many people don't know. I mean, much is not covered. You're paying for every food, every bit of food that you eat. You know, you're not paying for housing and the staff in it, but everything, even travel. If you're not traveling with the president, if your kids are coming on a Bright Star, which is the first lady's plane, we have to pay for their travel.
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Wow. I am just like... The first, well, almost like the former first lady, because I still had to pay for my house, you know, as a human living here in the United States. It's former first lady, Princess Michelle Obama. her highness or whatever and uh she's talking about she's i don't i don't i've never understand i don't get people who have the world served to them on a silver platter and yet still they bitch don't get it welcome back to the program tana lash with you bottom of this first hour she was she's is that her podcast i don't even pay attention to her podcast i just oh Is that hers? I don't know. She's always behind some microphone talking about how hard her life is. Every day. Every time that we have these sound bites go around. This is a new one. And she's complaining about the fact that she had to pay for food and travel. What? You know what? When my kids and I, when my family, when we went to go, we took our kids to 30A. down in the beautiful, beautiful Florida area, beautiful near Dustin. It's just a gorgeous place down there. Can you believe that we had to pay for our own travel? I was like, what? And then, and then get this. We had to pay for our own food. Outrage.
SPEAKER 05 :
The oppression you had to deal with.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's an outrage. It's totally outrage. I was shocked. I thought all of these things would be given to me for free, and it wasn't. No, she's complaining because I guess she had a different idea of what she thought being the first lady was going to be like, like she was, I, all of that stuff was going to be just given to her. She was complaining about having to, I mean, it's still private air travel. You had a flyer. They walked out with like 20 something million dollars. I think they're okay. Didn't how much money was he banking on book deals and speeches? I think y'all are going to be okay. I mean, y'all got a mansion in the Hamptons. That's on the Atlantic beachfront. They also bought... Oh, my gosh. What was Tom Selleck, that Hawaiian show he did? Magnum P.I.? Magnum P.I. So the house that he apparently lived in for the show, like I guess it featured on the show, that's the house they bought in Hawaii. And it's like right there on the coast. In fact, there was a bit of a scandal because... They were doing something to the shoreline that actually encouraged erosion and it was against state law, but they were allowed to kind of do it anyway because they're the Obamas. So you have two beachfront properties in addition to the big old historic place that they the pad that they have in Chicago. And they're complaining that they had to pay for food and travel like some people don't even have a house. And you're complaining that you had to buy food and all of that for. I mean, what do you think that it was? This idea that positions in government are supposed to be everything subsidized, like you're a member of the royal family is is asinine. I mean, you are serving the public. It's not supposed to be a free for all. I mean, I realize that Democrats over the course of some years have transformed the expectation of public service to free for all. But it's not supposed to be like that. It's actually was supposed to actually kind of be a burden. And then people figured out a way to, you know, monetize everything and and grift off of it. And Trump is how much did you figure out? Trump is he's donated his White House salary, his presidential salary.
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So over two terms, it would be three point two million total.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can I just say to be president of the United States and have to deal with all of that? I'm actually shocked that it's only three point. And that's probably before tax, too, right? Yeah. So that's pre-tax. It's roughly half, roughly half of that he's going to walk away with. But still, I mean, you know, again, it's supposed to be kind of burdensome. You're serving and it. somehow changed over the years to where now people want to get in on the grift and they just go right from college into public office and I just don't get it. So she's complaining about having to pay for this stuff. She is always complaining. She grew up privileged. She doesn't know poverty. The Obamas don't know poverty. He was raised by what his grandparents, his grandmother or grandfather, which one was it? Vice president of a bank. His mom was this like bougie university professor. I mean, he had the most elite, privileged childhood. They would die if they had to grow up in the poverty, for instance, that I knew or regular middle class life that many of you out there listening know. They wouldn't be able to handle that. They grew up in privilege from the very beginning. They have no idea what struggle is. They have no idea what poverty is. They have no idea about any of it. And they have this idealized expectation of what public office is supposed to afford them as opposed to what they can bring to public office. I frankly am tired of hearing her bitch and moan about everything. She has to be one of the most negative people I've ever seen. I can't stand people like that. I cannot stand. And granted, I'm a curmudgeon. And I'm a cynic. But to not find joy in anything, to not, I mean, you're the first lady of the United States and you're still complaining. She acted like all the world, half the country loved you and they voted your husband into office twice. So can you stop with the tiny violins? You are the most pampered, privileged person ever. You can never do anything wrong. And you're mad that you had to buy some sandwiches for your damn self for the love. It's just good night. I just it's just shocking. But it's also insulting because it's like, oh, this is what you have to offer me for that. You know what you were getting into running for the White House. But maybe be a little bit grateful for it, for the experience, instead of complaining that you had to fly your family. And by the way, when she's talking about flying her kids out, I remember there was one time when she didn't complain because they were flying to Hawaii for vacation. And I remember it came up that somebody had asked about something and she had made an offhand remark that they, yes, they paid for their daughters to fly out to Hawaii. And she said it so bitterly. And with so much resentment that I thought maybe you ought to take a step back. You have the means to do it and the resources to do it. You are the one person of the one percent in this country. Every argument that you try to make for identity politics is turned on its head because of your life. And you're still complaining. Nothing's ever going to be good enough for these people. You know, if they have problems in their marriage, no wonder she is like the ultimate Karen, never happy, constantly complaining. Nothing's ever good enough. It's just enough already. You can justify anything if you, you know, pay tribute to one of their stations. That's all you got to do. We have a lot more on the way. We got a Florida man. Although I'm not really sure anything can top this, if I'm being honest. As we move, our partners at Bring You the Program, our friends over at Kel-Tec, Great company, great all-American company. They got the PR57, the rotary barrel pistol, the lightest 5.7 on the market, 40% lighter than competition. It's perfect for concealed carry. You can actually really concealed carry this 5.7. It's awesome. Unique top-loading design replaces the traditional magazines with stripper clips for a slimmer carry profile in a 20-plus-1 capacity. MSRP is only $399. It's super sweet. And this is one you absolutely have to have. You know, Kel-Tec, it's all about made in America, family-owned values at their best. These are American materials, American workers, American labor, American production, the whole nine yards. America needs more companies like Kel-Tec. Learn more at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation, performance, Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So as you all know, sovereignty won over journalism at the Kentucky Derby. That was pretty crazy. I love the name. I love the symbolism that it has. It's just so perfect. Bodies of animals everywhere. Toxic algae bloom is taking a toll on Southern California's marine life. That's this doesn't this happen in the Gulf, too, because I remember reading about some of this stuff. They said that it's I mean, it's like poisonous. They're talking about sea lions and some animals, you know, like all kinds of stuff, toxic fish that it's just that. And it's this algae bloom that, you know, happens every now and then, not just, you know, near California, but in the Gulf as well. The rise of single parents. This is an interesting piece that Cain marked because I think there's financial times and I think there's a lot that goes into it than just, you know, like economics or like various life choices. I you think that there's an inability of people to connect with people. I think that that's true. Yeah, because they get into that with this story. People who like work, work, work, and then they don't really like I think a lot of it is driven by money. everything digital, digital life, digital socialization, people aren't connecting the way that they used to. And I don't think that that's like specifically the younger generations as well. I've been hearing stories like older generations now too, like even boomers are starting to deal with some of this stuff where people are just like, they wanna just stay home and they'll connect digitally or they'll just, you know, it's just very interesting, but that's also leading to more and more people choosing to not have the traditional nuclear family. Single parents is the thing to do. I don't know. There's a lot that goes. This is bigger than just a quick five. This is interesting. A 12-year-old boy in New Zealand creates an AI pillbot to stop his grandmother from taking the wrong medication. This was so sweet. A little 12-year-old boy, Gabriel Anthony, he invented a robot and it programmed it via AI to help his grandmother. He calls it pillbot. He says she has poor eyesight. She takes a lot of pills because her conditions and sometimes because she can't really recognize the pill and see it. She'll take the wrong one. So he has pill bot and it recognizes what medications she needs and which ones, you know, she has to have a flashlight and a magnifying glass to identify pills. So he said that it actually takes a photo of the pill. It recognizes the pill based on its training. and it checks her pills before she takes them. That is amazing, and he needs to get an award for that because I love that so much. That's how you properly young people use digital and have those advancements. Awesome. If you don't have Real ID, you're going to have a lot of travel headaches after May 7th. The Real ID. Isn't that just... I go back and forth on this. Isn't it just a way to coalesce everything federally? I think so. That's what I think. I don't know. So over the weekend... Trump tweeted out, what was it? The AI image of him as Pope as a joke. And all of the people who hate religion somehow wanted to pretend to be very upset for the Catholics. I don't know if you guys saw this. So Trump tweeted out, it's very, you know, very, very nice renaissance looking image of him as Pope with the number one. And tweeted it out or had it on his platform. And it went out from there. And all the left got mad. You know, the left that hates all religion anyway. Suddenly they were mad. And I was thinking about this when I saw this headline this morning. So there's a Hollywood Bowl production of Jesus Christ Superstar. Now, in Hollywood, because they're out of original ideas, they've had to sort of switch and modify their expectations of originality. And so now instead of originality, they just want controversy because they think the two are synonymous. I mean, they're not, you know. I mean, Wick, by the way, you want to talk about, like, real controversy? Wick ate a baby bird. That's controversial. Probably more artistic than, you know, I know he did. That's a whole other story. Probably more artistic than what the Hollywood Bowl is planning to do with Jesus Christ Superstar. They have Cynthia Irvo, a blackballed lesbian, a BBL, who's playing Jesus. And then Adam Lambert, yeah, he's playing Judas. That actually seems fitting, you know, TBH. But... But everybody was mad about Trump with the AI Pope. Again, you got a BBL playing Jesus, but Trump with the AI Pope. Make that one make sense. I mean, he it was a joke. He was he was making a joke. This they're not making a joke. They're trying to offend. They're not even making a statement. The whole point is they want to offend. We've gotten so dumb in our culture. A lot of this stuff, especially with this production, they act like they're being thought-provoking. And that that is, again, a substitute for originality. Or controversy is a substitute for originality. Animals can be... They can do shocking things. Shock is cheap art. Shock isn't even art. It's a cheap imitation of art. It's when... They can't actually do the artistic thing, so they settle for the cheap imitation of it, and they pretend that, oh, you're shocked? That's compelling. Is compelling a necessary requirement to be considered art? I don't think so. Not necessarily, especially when used and abused in this case. But all of these people that dragged him, I woke up, looked at the because he tweeted it out in the morning. And, you know, he doesn't sleep. He just blinks for long periods of time. And that's it. But I saw that, what was it, Pope Trump or Trump Pope was trending. And I'm like, oh boy, what happened? So I looked and I saw the AI image. I thought that's funny. And then the left was mad. Oh my gosh, sacrilegious, blasphemous. What else were they saying? Like I'm running, going through the Rolodex of adjectives in my mind. All of my Catholic friends thought it was funny. And I have some pretty hardcore Catholic friends. Like I, look, I'm not Catholic. Some of my family was raised Catholic. My husband's family is Catholic, part of them. I was raised Southern Baptist. Fun. But and we're non-denominational. We're Church of Christ. But, you know, I and my Catholic friends have always been so nice and explaining, OK, this is why they're wearing the pointy hats, because I'm like, what's up with these hats? And that's a little chain cabana. Where would explain that? And they think it's funny and they explain it to me. But none of them were offended by any of this. They were like, OK, he's making a joke. He's not trying to offend. He's making a joke. Didn't he order the flags half-masked for the Pope or something to that effect? But the left, they'll do like Jesus Christ Superstar. What was the other one they did? Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Then there were a couple of other productions, and then there were some exhibitions that were poking fun at Catholicism or religious artifacts and things like that. The left never was offended over any of this. But it's only because Trump is, that's the only thing. Because he's the thing that to them, he is the ingredient that can sour anything. If it's something they've been for their whole lives, they will immediately argue against it if he's involved. Because that's how tribal people are. If the left has to agree with Trump on anything, they view that as they lost on that issue. And because they're that narrow minded, like if you agree with someone on a particular issue and you have common ground, it doesn't mean you're giving anything up. It just means that, wow, both of you have the same thought on this issue. Now, you didn't change your position. They didn't change their position. You just have the same thought on an issue. But the left doesn't look at it that way. They look at it as if they're agreeing with someone who is across the aisle, then that nullifies anything. their position and they're they don't want to look like they're wrong or that they have been modified in any way it is bizarre they are a walking psychological study the left is they really are so i i don't know i am i am just it's just i don't want to hear anybody get i'm just tired of them complaining about pope trump trump pope or whatever it is
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about the great big beautiful bill you know that we're trying to get past it'll be the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country and hopefully it'll get done and the democrats are fighting us and if it doesn't get done it's going to be a 68 tax increase so that's going to be the democrats but i think we're going to have it done i think the republicans are going to vote for it And it'll be the most consequential bill, I think, in the history of our country.
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Leader Thune says he wants to get it done by July 4th. Yeah. Do you think that's possible?
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I think it is. And I think he's doing a fantastic job. And Mike Johnson, Speaker, is doing a fantastic job. And they're both getting together well. There's great unity in the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a much different party than it was.
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So I he's keeping the criticism to Democrats, but there was a hint of Republicans. You know, you got to get this passed. Otherwise, it's going to be a big, giant tax increase. And he's right in saying that. And I'm glad that he's throwing it down because it needs to happen. And he needs to start bringing pressure on some of these lawmakers. Although in the Senate, he was talking about Thune in the Senate. I think it's a lot easier in the Senate. obviously with the House, with the narrow majority, but he was talking to Kristen Welker there, taking her through the White House, talking about the big, beautiful bill. We've got some domestic news on that front. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this first hour on Monday. Yeah, again, it's, you know, it's not my fault that it's rainy and... Very British here in Texas. Kane and I are going to start getting accents on this Cinco de Mayo. So it's going to happen. So, yeah, don't eat a taco salad today or you're going to be a bigot. At least only you can only have Kane for your Hispanic side. So welcome. Dana Lash with you. Remember. OK, first off, I can't talk. I can't even discuss anything else today until we talk about that infamous day back in 2016. When you remember this, Cain POTUS said, you know, the best the best taco salads. I got to say it like he would. Other taco salads at Trump Tower. It looks like a mighty fine taco salad. Can I just be honest? He did this in 2016 and the left lost their minds to the point where this trended on X for like two days straight. And he goes, I love the Hispanics is what he said. Why was the left so mad about this? They were so mad. Why? I mean, he's eating a taco salad and he's like, I love the Hispanics. It's a great. OK, what's the what's the bad thing about it? Taco salads are delicious, Kane. Although technically maybe not a traditional meal in the way that it was served to him. But still, you know, it's the thought that counts. It's the spirit of the thing, you know, like a very traditional taco bowl. Yeah, you know. I mean, it looked delicious. I would like to have a taco salad now with a Cinco de Mayo. So, happy Cinco de Mayo. There you go, right there. It's... He... I've got a million things here that he's... Trade deals. Oh, here's one that I wanted to... This was, I thought, a very interesting move. I read this over the weekend. So, a big... They're not the only ones. Land Rover also did something similar. So... One luxury car maker, they said, is making a huge call. I saved you a click. It's Mercedes-Benz. They're shifting production of one of its vehicles to Tuscaloosa, Alabama by 2027. That's interesting. Very interesting. And they said that obviously it's in response to tariffs. But they said that there are some other complicating factors. They didn't say which model would move there. They said the production... Of a core segment vehicle will move stateside. They think that by they, I mean like the experts, they think that the the move is going to impact the production of the GLC. That's their best selling car in the US. And that it's a compact SUV that's made in Bremen, Germany. And so the speculation is that that is the model that they are moving to Tuscaloosa, Alabama. That is very interesting. They said that they reported selling over 64,000 units in the U.S., up 58% from the year before last. And Alabama, they said, might, you know, that looks like where they're going to be moving their production. They're in and out of factory. They said they're reviewing the moves. Obviously, it's in response to all of the stuff with the tariffs. And they said that it could affect some of these other moves could affect GLE, GLS, GLE Coupe, Mercedes-Maybach, GLS. And all of those call Alabama home as well. So they're moving more over. That is very good. Land Rover, too. Let me pull this story up because Land Rover also I think they said that they because they had paused Jaguar Land Rover had paused shipments. because of the tariffs, and now they have restarted all of those. They've resumed exports to the United States, according to reports. The London Times first had the story. They said that there was, so it's going to be like a month behind, but they said the U.S. was a key market for luxury brands. 25% tariffs are still in effect. So they're going to get here, but it's going to be a little pricier. It's going to be just a little pricier, I have to say. So that's one of the things that they're that's what they're looking at. And so those are some that that's a that's a good signal. That's a good first step. Now, POTUS says that there could be some of these trade deals that could be announced this week. We need them announced now. I understand that you don't want to announce things too early and you don't want to jeopardize anything. But we we need these now. This is some stuff that we need. We got to have this all now. And and we I think the sooner the better, because that's just going to make it's going to make it that much easier for Republicans going into midterms. Because otherwise, yes, it is all about elections. Otherwise, you're going to have impeachment palooza. They'll impeach him for anything. Clearly, they already demonstrated that they don't need a criminal action in order to do it. So he said that some of these deals with trading partners could very well be announced this week. And he didn't specify any of the countries. The schedule he announced today that the NFL draft is going to be held in D.C. in twenty twenty seven. And he met with this morning a ballerina who spent a year in a Russian prison because she was accused. She sent like a little donation to Ukraine and the Ruskies threw and they threw in the pokey of an actual ballerina. So there you go. But he hasn't said he hasn't given any specificity as to what happened. what those trade deals could look like. Now, one of the things that we do know is that they've been pushing these budget cuts, cuts to the FBI, cuts to the DOJ, the latest from the Washington Times getting into all of this. These are, I mean, we all knew this was coming, these proposed cuts. It's part of a $163 billion that they're looking in reducing federal spending for this. For well, those are slices of the overall budget, 545 million in cuts to the FBI, other Justice Department agencies. It's 163 billion in total. So the they said, while still reducing crime at all. and reversing the weaponization of the FBI as well. So the FBI headquarters in Maryland, apparently that's also going to get halted. He says it's three hours away from the agency's present location. It's silly to keep building it, he had said. So this is going to be kind of interesting to see how there's these cuts that have been proposed. Then, of course, we also have ATF. Apparently there's a $468 million funding reduction that has been proposed for the ATF. And they said that the proposal is that it was well, because it was it was weaponized. The ATF was absolutely weaponized. I have a story for you later on to discuss that further. The ATF is a joke. I, you know, I've talked with ATF agents. I don't care how good of a heart you may have when you're pushing nonsense that's rendered invalid. No matter what your... If you think that, you know, oh, I'm going to go in and work on the ATF on the inside, you're already working for an unconstitutional entity. So what do you think your presence in an unconstitutional entity is going to change about said unconstitutional entity? It's still unconstitutional. And the way that they have pursued what they believe is law and order has been to the detriment of the rule of law and due process. I mean, shall I go on? So... There's cuts also for DEA, all kinds of stuff. So a lot of, but again, we have to have all of this codified. I can sit here and run down this laundry list. I am not one of those people that gets excited about temporary things. I want to see it all made permanent. And I got to tell you, my patience is running thin. Because we knew we didn't have a lot of time. My patience is running really thin with a lot of these Republicans. Because with this not getting done, they're going to use it to tank the rest of his administration. The other big thing that he proposed, let me put this up. So this was CNBC. Interesting. He's ordering 100% tariffs on foreign-made movies to save dying Hollywood. This was something that was announced over the weekend. He said there was a concerted effort by nations, by other nations, and it's a national security threat, he said. It's messaging and propaganda. He said he was authorizing relevant government agencies such as the Department of Commerce to immediately begin the process of imposing a 100 percent tariffs on all films produced abroad that are then sent into the United States. Now, I understand that. I also think that you're not going to be able to solve a cultural issue at the top. You can't solve an issue that is kind of at the bottom by just trying to regulate at the top. I mean, I understand it. I think that, first off, taxes need to be just abolished all around. Let's have a graduating, you know. It does all come down to that because it comes down to that with the business climate, too. There have been a number of agencies, including there's one that's just right up the highway from us in Las Colinas, Mel Gibson and his team that are doing the sequel to The Passion of the Christ. I think it's the same team that was behind Apocalypto and some of the other ones that he did. And they're creating – they have this – production company that they are that they're launching in Texas to make, you know, these types of movies, one of the biggest problems. And I think when what Trump is talking about by looping in the Commerce Department is a lot of the financing comes from overseas. And because the financing comes from overseas, that gives a lot of these, you know, producers, you know, you can you can donate, you know, millions of dollars to to this budget, and you can be named as a producer, a lot of it that's done actually. And they influenced, obviously, the outcome of the movie. One of the most famous ones, you know, obviously, Top Gun, Tencent. And they ended up pulling a lot of support out of that. And they didn't get a Chinese opening because they weren't going to take the Taiwanese flag off of Maverick's jacket. At first, they did in some of the early screen tests. But then it played so poorly with the public, they had to go back. They had to go back to the cutting room floor and pick up the... Well, I guess they don't edit celluloid anymore, but they had to go they had to go back and restore it digitally because they had taken it off and it enraged people across the United States. But then that enraged Tencent. So but I understand this. I also think, too, it's not going to just be fixed from the top. This is something it's a cultural problem in the United States. You know, you can't it's like putting a Band-Aid on it by trying to fix it with regulatory policy at the top. And I understand people are like, yes, we want immediate, you know, we want it to change and we want it to change immediately. Don't fall into the trap in thinking that it is the same, that you're going to get the same thing because you're sacrificing speed, because you're going to sacrifice, you know, getting everything that you want because you want it done fast. It's that immediate gratification. This is stuff that's been in the works in the And you're not going to undo it in just one term. It's just not going to happen. But I do think making it overall to make things here in the United States so that people don't have to seek overseas funding that in turn influence what we make is a good thing. We've got to get into some of this other stuff because people lost their minds over the AI Pope. But did you hear what they're doing with Jesus Christ Superstar? Well, yeah, in addition to Cynthia Irvo. What does living better mean to you? Is it more money? A bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how Relief Factor can help change that. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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OK, so first thing, an air traffic controller is warning that a major airport is unsafe for travel, claiming that you should avoid Newark at all costs, that it's just a hot mess. It's not safe. It's not a safe situation for the flying public, said Tom Costello. He said it's due to staff shortages. I think they've always had issues, though, correct? I think they always have. A robot attacked somebody in China. A humanoid robot was filmed attacking its handler while trying to break free from its restraints. Juan is going to show you this on the side. It is crazy. It goes nuts. That's me when someone says Green Day's punk. This is also why I don't get a Roomba. I don't get a Roomba because of this. It showed this thing lashed out at a dude. He had to duck and it was it raised its arms. You can see and it was just trying to thrash around and break free from the crane holding it. That is insane. I'm telling you, this is what's going to happen. Your Roomba is going to eat your face one day. You're going to wake up in the morning and it's going to be right over your face, killing you to death. That's what's going to happen. I'm just warning you right now. They're going to overthrow you. We've seen this movie before, you guys. We saw before Skype shut down after 21 years. I can't believe Skype was around for 21 years. Yeah. Microsoft Skype. Two billion people used it. It was launched forever a million years ago. I cannot even believe that. There are people alive right now who like Skype is older than them. Yeah. That's so weird to me. So Skype is gone now. Let's see. A guy impaled himself on an iron fence because he was taking a selfie at the Coliseum in Rome and he just sort of fell over one of the areas. People have got to be careful because especially in ancient sites. Stick with us. Gold Co. is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings. Just fill out a quick form, no commitment, just free information. And then they'll ship you your free 2025 gold and silver kit straight to your door. no shipping fees no strings just a free info kit to help you understand how gold and silver can fit into your financial plan i'm a big believer in doing your research and this kit is a great place to start so i'm really excited to be partnering with goldco because not only do they support my show which i truly appreciate but they've made the whole process of buying precious metals Super straightforward. Because if you're a fan of the show, Gold Co. is also going to tell you how to qualify for unlimited free bonus silver on eligible orders. If you qualify, you can even get a free half ounce silver Ronald Reagan coin. Totally free. Don't wait. Take that first step towards protecting and diversifying your savings with Gold Co. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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Many people don't know. I mean, much is not covered. You're paying for every food, every bit of food that you eat. You're not paying for housing and the staff in it, but everything, even travel. If you're not traveling with the president, if your kids are coming on a Bright Star, which is the first lady's plane, we had to pay for their travel.
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Wow. I am just like the first, well, almost like the former first lady because I still had to pay for my house. you know, as a human living here in the United States. It's former First Lady Princess Michelle Obama, Her Highness or whatever. And she's talking about, she's, I don't, I don't, I've never understand, I don't get people who have the world served to them on a silver platter and yet still, they bitch. Don't get it. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of this first hour. She was, she's, is that her podcast? I don't even pay attention to her podcast. I just, ugh. Is that hers? I don't know. She's always behind some microphone talking about how hard her life is. Every day. Every time that we have these sound bites go around. This is a new one. And she's complaining about the fact that she had to pay for food and travel. What? You know what? When my kids and I, when my family, when we went to go, we took our kids to 30A. down in the beautiful, beautiful Florida area, beautiful near Dustin. It's just a gorgeous place down there. Can you believe that we had to pay for our own travel? I was like, what? And then, and then get this. We had to pay for our own food.
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Outrage. The oppression you had to deal with.
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It's an outrage. It's totally outrage. Can you... I was shocked. Like, I thought all of these things would be given to me for free. And it wasn't. No, she's complaining because I guess she had a different idea of what she thought... being the first lady was going to be like, like she was, I, all of that stuff was going to be just given to her. She was complaining about having to, I mean, it's still private air travel. You had a flyer. They walked out with like 20 something million dollars. I think they're okay. Didn't, how much money was he banking on book deals and speeches? I think y'all are going to be okay. I mean, y'all got a mansion in the Hamptons. that's on the Atlantic beachfront. They also bought, oh my gosh, what was Tom Selleck, that Hawaiian show he did? Magnum P.I. Magnum P.I. So the house that he apparently lived in for the show, like I guess it featured on the show, that's the house they bought in Hawaii and it's like right there on the coast. In fact, there was a bit of a scandal because They were doing something to the shoreline that actually encouraged erosion and was against state law, but they were allowed to kind of do it anyway because they're the Obamas. So you have two beachfront properties in addition to the big old historic place that they the pad that they have in Chicago. And they're complaining that they had to pay for food and travel like some people don't even have a house. And you're complaining that you had to buy food and all of that for. I mean, what do you think that it was? This idea that positions in government are supposed to be everything subsidized, like you're a member of the royal family is is asinine. I mean, you are serving the public. It's not supposed to be a free for all. I mean, I realize that Democrats over the course of some years have transformed the expectation of public service to free for all. But it's not supposed to be like that. It's actually was supposed to actually kind of be a burden. And then people figured out a way to, you know, monetize everything and and grift off of it. And Trump is how much did you figure out? Trump has he's donated his White House salary, his presidential salary.
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So over two terms, it would be three point two million total.
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Can I just say to be president of the United States and have to deal with all of that? I'm actually shocked that it's only three point. And that's probably before tax, too, right? Yeah. So that's pre-tax. It's roughly half, roughly half of that he's going to walk away with. But still, I mean, you know, again, it's supposed to be kind of burdensome. You're serving and it. somehow changed over the years to where now people want to get in on the grift and they just go right from college into public office and I just don't get it. So she's complaining about having to pay for this stuff. She is always complaining. She grew up privileged. She doesn't know poverty. The Obamas don't know poverty. He was raised by what his grandparents, his grandmother or grandfather, which one was it? Vice president of a bank. His mom was this like bougie university professor. I mean, he had the most elite, privileged childhood. They would die if they had to grow up in the poverty, for instance, that I knew or regular middle class life that many of you out there listening know. They wouldn't be able to handle that. They grew up in privilege from the very beginning. They have no idea what struggle is. They have no idea what poverty is. They have no idea about any of it. And they have this idealized expectation of what public office is supposed to afford them as opposed to what they can bring to public office. I frankly am tired of hearing her bitch and moan about everything. She has to be one of the most negative people I've ever seen. I can't stand people like that. I cannot stand. And granted, I'm a curmudgeon. and I'm a cynic, but to not find joy in anything, to not, I mean, you're the first lady of the United States, and you're still complaining? She acted like all the world, half the country loved you, and they voted your husband into office twice, so can you stop with the tiny violins? You are the most pampered, privileged person ever. You can never do anything wrong, and you're mad that you had to buy some sandwiches for your damn self for the love of It's just good night. I just it's just shocking. But it's also insulting because it's like, oh, this is what you have to offer me for that. You know what you were getting into running for the White House. But maybe be a little bit grateful for it, for the experience, instead of complaining that you had to fly your family. And by the way, when she's talking about flying her kids out, I remember there was one time when she didn't complain because they were flying to Hawaii for vacation. And I remember it came up that somebody had asked about something and she had made an offhand remark that they, yes, they paid for their daughters to fly out to Hawaii. And she said it so bitterly. And with so much resentment that I thought maybe you ought to take a step back. You have the means to do it and the resources to do it. You are the one person of the one percent in this country. Every argument that you try to make for identity politics is turned on its head because of your life. And you're still complaining. Nothing's ever going to be good enough for these people. You know, if they have problems in their marriage, no wonder. She is like the ultimate Karen. Never happy. Constantly complaining. Nothing's ever good enough. Just enough already. Heavens. So over the weekend, Trump tweeted out. What was it? the ai image of him as pope as a joke and all of the people who hate religion somehow wanted to pretend to be very upset for the catholics i don't know if you guys saw this so trump tweeted out it's very you know very very nice renaissance looking image of him as pope with the number one And tweeted it out or had it on his platform. And it went out from there. And all the left got mad. You know, the left that hates all religion anyway. Suddenly they were mad. And I was thinking about this when I saw this headline this morning. So there's a Hollywood Bowl production of Jesus Christ Superstar. Now, in Hollywood, because they're out of original ideas, they've had to sort of switch and modify their expectations of originality. And so now instead of originality, they just want controversy because they think the two are synonymous. I mean, they're not, you know. I mean, Wick, by the way, you want to talk about, like, real controversy? Wick ate a baby bird. That's controversial. Probably more artistic than, you know, I know he did. That's a whole other story. Probably more artistic than what the Hollywood Bowl is planning to do with Jesus Christ Superstar. They have Cynthia Irvo, a blackballed lesbian, a BBL, who's playing Jesus. And then Adam Lambert, yeah, he's playing Judas. That actually seems fitting, you know, TBH. But... But everybody was mad about Trump with the AI Pope. Again, you got a BBL playing Jesus, but Trump with the AI Pope. Make that one make sense. I mean, he it was a joke. He was he was making a joke. This they're not making a joke. They're trying to offend. They're not even making a statement. The whole point is they want to offend. We've gotten so dumb in our culture. A lot of this stuff, especially with this production, they act like they're being thought-provoking. And that that is, again, a substitute for originality. Or controversy is a substitute for originality. Animals can be... They can do shocking things. Shock is cheap art. Shock isn't even art. It's a cheap imitation of art. It's when... They can't actually do the artistic thing. So they settle for the cheap imitation of it and they pretend that, oh, you're shocked. That's compelling. It doesn't is compelling a necessary requirement to be considered art. I don't think so. Not necessarily, especially when used and abused in this case. But all of these people that dragged him. I woke up, looked at the because he tweeted it out in the morning. And, you know, he doesn't sleep. He just blinks for long periods of time. And that's it. But I saw that, what was it, Pope Trump or Trump Pope was trending. And I'm like, oh boy, what happened? So I looked and I saw the AI image. I thought that's funny. And then the left was mad. Oh my gosh, sacrilegious, blasphemous. What else were they saying? Like I'm running, going through the Rolodex of adjectives in my mind. All of my Catholic friends thought it was funny. And I have some pretty hardcore Catholic friends. Like I, look, I'm not Catholic. Some of my family was raised Catholic. My husband's family is Catholic. Part of them. I was raised Southern Baptist. Fun. But and we're non-denominational. We're Church of Christ. But, you know, I and my Catholic friends have always been so nice and explaining, OK, this is why they're wearing the pointy hats, because I'm like, what's up with these hats? And that's a little chain cabana. Where would explain that? And they think it's funny and they explain it to me. But none of them were offended by any of this. They were like, OK, he's making a joke. He's not trying to offend. He's making a joke. Didn't he order the flags half-masked for the Pope or something to that effect? But the left, they'll do like Jesus Christ Superstar. What was the other one they did? Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. Then there were a couple of other productions, and then there were some exhibitions that were poking fun at Catholicism or religious artifacts and things like that. The left never was offended over any of this. But it's only because Trump is, that's the only thing. They only, only because he's the thing that to them, he is the ingredient that can sour anything. They will immediately, if it's something they've been for their whole lives, they will immediately argue against it if he's involved. Because that's how tribal people are. If they even have to, if the left has to agree with Trump on anything, they view that as they lost on that issue. And because they're that narrow minded, like if you agree with someone on a particular issue and you have common ground, it doesn't mean you're giving anything up. It just means that, wow, both of you have the same thought on this issue. Now, you didn't change your position. They didn't change their position. You just have the same thought on an issue. But the left doesn't look at it that way. They look at it as if they're agreeing with someone who is across the aisle, then that nullifies. Their position and they don't want to look like they're wrong or that they have been modified in any way. It is bizarre. They are a walking psychological study. The left is. They really are. So I don't know. I am. I am just it's just I don't want to hear anybody get just tired of them complaining about Pope Trump, Trump, Pope or whatever it is. A few other things, because there's POTUS is busy over the weekend. He said also they want to reopen Alcatraz. He said it's something that he thought. We have this audio. Can we play this? This is sorry. Audio soundbite million five thousand eleven to twenty fourteen. Thank you, Steve.
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Where did you get the idea for reopening Alcatraz? Just an idea I've had, and I guess because the judges, so many of these radicalized judges, they want to have trials for every single, think of it, every single person that's in our country illegally, they came in illegally, that would mean millions of trials, and it's just so ridiculous what's happening. And it's long been a symbol, Alcatraz, of whatever it is i mean you know it's a sad symbol but it's a it's a symbol of law and order and uh you know it's got quite a history frankly so i think we're going to do that and yeah i'm not opposed to it are you opposed to a cane i think it's kind of cool af there's a lot of sharks in them waters too super shark infested i don't know if y'all knew that super shark infested
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So he says he wants to open it up for some of the most ruthless, violent criminals. Is it, though? I heard it was like really... I watched a... What a year or so ago. Because I love haunted history stuff. And I watched a haunted history thing about Alcatraz. And they were saying that it is in great disrepair. So I don't know what it would take to... like make it work. I mean, does it really need to be that workable? I just think if you're a super violent criminal, the consequences, you're not going to the Ritz. You know what I'm saying? So do I care? Does the security work? Are there shock fences?
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Part of me makes me believe he's saying this because he's got a different motivation altogether.
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What is your theory?
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I don't know what the motivation is or what he wants to... But I think there's something that he wants to either do with that land, either sell it or something. But I don't know if the prison is really the endgame here. I'm still a little suspicious.
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I mean, wasn't it... I mean... Because I think part of the reasons that they couldn't even use it anymore was because it, I mean, even like the infrastructure, I'm talking like electricity, water, it was all really bad off. But again, you know, you do crime, you're not going to the Ritz. I am all for cruel and unusual punishment when it comes to rapists and pedophiles. So maybe that's something, you know.
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I didn't lose confidence in him. Why did I lose confidence? He's going to the United Nations to represent me. I think it's personally, if I had to choose for myself, I'd rather have that job than the other.
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Did he resign on his own?
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He didn't resign. I just moved him. There's no resignation. You people are so bad. You're trying to make a big deal out of something. You are so bad. That's why nobody watches you anymore. Who are you with? Who are you with? You're with who? First. I didn't know that was such a question.
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He's just like, so just I didn't even know there was a Hearst. What? He's just so dismissive. Welcome back to the program. Dana last year with you. We're at the top of the second hour. There is a talking about Mike Waltz. And he was talking with the press a little, not a scrum, but like some of the press that's there on Twitter. Oh, Air Force One. Good heavens. I almost said White Force One. I was thinking White House, Air Force, whatever. It's rainy. I'm blaming that. Anyway, Dana Lash with you. Top of this second hour now. And, of course, you can listen across the country, a station near you, Channel 347, DirecTV, the chats at Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, all that good stuff. But he was saying, oh, you're making something out of nothing with Mike Waltz. Him getting the U.N. ambassador in some ways is a cushier, fancier thing than what he had prior. I mean, that's kind of my opinion on this. I think it's in some ways it's like way – it's a little cushier. But – I do think what this does, we've talked about this before, is it highlights a divide in the Trump administration that they're going to have to fix. They all need to be on the same page as it relates to Iran. And there's a suspicion that one of the reasons Waltz was moved from this role to, I would say, more of a leased role. or leashed role, rather, is the U.N., is because of Iran. Because he's one of those who, yes, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, right? Or Iran, like Lindsey Graham. Lindsey Graham always wanted to bomb Iran. But there's definitely a divide in the Trump administration on this. There was a very interesting, a good piece over at Washington Post uh examiner trump needs his team on the same iran page where they dive into this uh specifically about waltz and it's not just waltz there's other people within the administration that are pretty absolutist on this stuff rubio's kind of in the middle of it i think that he leans a certain way but i don't think that he's showing his cards just yet but the uh idea of being very, very aggressive and essentially getting us into a war with Iran. There are absolutely people in the administration that are leading that way. Trump is not. Trump is he's not an isolationist. But what is the clear objective for getting into Iran? What to stop them from uranium enrichment? They've been enriching uranium this entire time. And why is it our responsibility to send our blood and treasure to do it when the nuclearized Iran is a threat to the Saudis and the Arab League? Why can't the Arab League do it? Why is it the United States' responsibility to wipe the backside of the rest of the world with our blood and treasure every single time? I'm sorry, but I don't really care about the lives of anyone over in the Middle East as it is worth anybody here in the United States. I would not spend one American soldier's life for that of anybody that is not A United States citizen that we do not have our interests completely outlined and articulated might be harsh, but that you know what the the onus is on the shoulders of the people who are trying to make the case to get involved in this conflict. What do they think is going to happen if we start striking Iran? The Houthis are one thing. That's why Iran always uses these. proxy groups like, you know, Hezbollah or the Houthis or all of the other million different little factions of warlords that they have. So there's, and Steve Witkoff's in the middle of it, and everybody's fighting. They're really fighting over Iran, and it's starting to now be a distraction. And It's I feel like each side is all one way and and and there's no middle ground or anything. Trump is for his part. Trump is definitely not. He's not on the same page at Waltz is or some of these others are. And I don't think he's ever going to be prevailed upon to move to that position. He is very clear that, no, we're not going to. And I'll talk about striking the Houthis, but that's very, very different as opposed to carrying out strikes like against Tehran. Right. Very different. But he's threatened to impose secondary sanctions on any country that buys Iranian crude. And that's, I mean, that's, I think, way more of a rationed, reasoned response than maybe what Waltz was kind of promoting. But they're supposed to, they had a fourth round of discussions that were supposed to happen last weekend, but Oman canceled them. And so we'll see, but... This it does highlight the split dialogue versus detonation is how Axios puts it and how they're going to try to manage this threat. And I see these little hit pieces going out, too. Here's another thing that I would like to I think that his administration needs to be cautioned about. So in the Trump administration, one of the tools that and I don't think Trump does this. I do think his surrogates do. I know for a fact his surrogates do. They will shop not even credible oppo, but they'll shop hit pieces on other people in the administration if they're off this if they're off page. They're not on the same page. Like I saw a piece. I don't know if it was a Daily Mail that said, oh, Mike Waltz was, you know, he would the reason that he was removed from this position by POTUS is because he was trying to coordinate with Israel to go after Iran. And that seems to be a pretty high and mighty issue. BS take, but somebody shopped it. Somebody put that out there and the press will eat it up. I don't want to see leaks start happening again this term, like they did his first term because they were distracting and it just dragged him all over the place. And he, I mean, it wasn't until after, you know, we had a rough midterms that he had to just focus on judicial the second half of his first term. So, I mean, he's, I think he's listened to everybody make their arguments, but he's clearly not moving on Iran. Uh, It's not happening. I think they had a sit room meeting this morning on Iran. And there's I mean, you you have people like I think Vance is and he Vance is more in line with Trump and that he wants a diplomatic resolution and still thinks that that's possible. You have Witkoff, who sort of, you know, goes back and flits back and forth, but otherwise stays kind of in the center. And then you have Walt. Rubio is leaning more towards the Walt side, I would say. And Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton, which are they're very, very aggressive towards Iran. And they think that Iran's weaker than ever. We shouldn't compromise. We either they either dismantle their nuclear program entirely or we strike them. That's kind of that camp's proposal. And obviously you have Vance and others, including POTUS that are like, yeah, yeah, no, I think the diplomatic solution, because that's a big commitment. I mean, you're committing to war. Sorry, the United States is not in a place to do it. Everyone keeps talking about recruitment. We're not there with recruitment. Hell, we don't even have all the baddies weeded out at DOD and Pentagon yet before we're going to start embroiling ourselves in you know, a conflict. And I want you to think of this. This conflict isn't going to just be limited to Trump's term. If you if if you would have Waltz and you would have Rubio even and Graham and Cotton, if they all got their ways and they were and, you know, we issue the ultimatum, you either either deconstruct your nuclear program or we're going to strike. Guess what? That conflict will outlast Trump's term. And then you will. I mean, depending on what Republicans do, if we're getting involved in a conflict and we don't have any permanent tax cuts or anything else, guess what? You're going to have a Democrat president. Twenty twenty eight. Are you are you looking forward to having a bunch of things that Trump did to strengthen the military? But it was only done by EO immediately reversed by that same pen and paper by a Democrat president. Because that's exactly what's going to happen. And then all of these men and women who signed up to serve our country under Trump and under sect of Hegseth, they're going to have the rug ripped out underneath them and they're going to be shoved into a meat cannon. That's exactly what's going to happen under a Democrat administration. So everybody needs to get their asses and wits about them right now. This is ridiculous. There's two camps. And I will say the people who are all excited for war, they couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight. All these people that are so excited about admiring our country down into another conflict, these neocons, and that is the correct way to use that term. They are nation building neocons. They are entirely ignorant of the fact that some cultures don't want democracy. Some don't want democratic processes in a republic because they don't want a republic. And you have to modify how you deal with them accordingly. You can't apply the same kind of sanitized Western view to every single nation on God's green earth. It's just impractical and unworkable. And these people that want to get involved, they think that everything, they're the hammer and everything's a nail. They have no idea. No idea. Not a single one of them. There was a 45 minute conversation last weekend between Witkoff and the foreign minister of Iran. And that was, I think, since the Obama administration, the highest level of discourse. But it's it's I mean, he's trying. They want a nuclear deal. They have Iran has a two month deadline. Yeah, they have a two month grace period before the deadline to sign it. And they're trying to get this wrapped up. And it doesn't help that you have some neocons in the administration that are very loudly banging war drums. So when it comes down to it, I don't. Waltz's removal had nothing to do with signal. I think it was the administration reshifting people, shifting them around to further underscore Trump's position on Iran and not the neocon position on Iran. That's what it comes down to. So, by the way, Lorraine was, because Trump and that audio soundbite, it was like Hearst. I had to say I never heard of Hearst either. Lorraine's got it. She's like, yeah, they own a bunch of magazines, television channels, television stations, including the San Francisco Chronicle. Well, that makes sense because Hearst was California-based. But they also owned Esquire. I didn't know that. And they own 50% of the A&E cable network. Did you know that, Cain? I did not. 20% of Disney Company's sports division, ESPN. I didn't know that. Hearst Publications. We're going to talk to Stephen Yates about that a little bit more coming up as well. That divide that we see in the administration with a few other things. Also coming up, we've got some cultural stuff. Apparently Gen Z is whining about Starbucks. I don't know. I don't know why any... Our partners that help bring you the program, our friends over at Super Beats. You guys are familiar with the Super Beats folks, the Super Beats hard shoes. Well, now they have the Super Boreen and it's available at the Sam's Club and your metabolism affects everything. You can support it with Super Boreen. It's $5 off at Sam's Club through April 29th. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So as you all know, sovereignty won over journalism at the Kentucky Derby. That was pretty crazy. I love the name. I love the symbolism that it has. It's just so perfect. Bodies of animals everywhere. Toxic algae bloom is taking a toll on Southern California's marine life. That's this doesn't this happen in the Gulf, too, because I remember reading about some of this stuff. They said that it's I mean, it's like poisonous. They're talking about sea lions and some animals, you know, like all kinds of stuff, toxic fish that it's just that. And it's this algae bloom that, you know, happens every now and then, not just, you know, near California, but in the Gulf as well. The rise of single parents. This is an interesting piece that Cain marked because I think there's financial times and I think there's a lot that goes into it than just, you know, like economics or like various life choices. You think that there's an inability of people to connect with people. I think that that's true. Yeah. Because they get into that with this story. People who like work, work, work, and then they don't really like, I think a lot of it is driven by, you know, digital, everything digital. Digital life, digital socialization. People aren't connecting the way that they used to. And I don't think that that's like specifically the younger generations as well. I've been hearing stories like older generations now too, like even boomers. are starting to deal with some of this stuff where people are just like they want to just stay home and they'll connect digitally or they'll just, you know, it's just very interesting. But that's also leading to more and more people choosing to not have like the traditional nuclear family. They just like, you know, single parents is like the thing to it's like the thing to do. I don't know. There's a lot that goes. This is bigger than just a quick five. A this is interesting. A 12 year old boy in New Zealand creates an AI pill bot to stop his grandmother from taking the wrong medication. This is this was so sweet. A little 12 year old boy, Gabriel Anthony, he invented a robot and it programmed it via AI to help his grandmother. It calls it pill bot. He says she has poor eyesight. She takes a lot of pills because her conditions and sometimes because she can't really recognize the pill and see it. She'll take the wrong one. So he has pill bot and it recognizes what medications she needs and which ones, you know, she has to have a flashlight and a magnifying glass to identify pills. So he said that it actually takes a photo of the pill. It recognizes the pill based on its training. and it checks her pills before she takes them. That is amazing, and he needs to get an award for that because I love that so much. That's how you properly young people use digital and have those advancements. Awesome. If you don't have Real ID, you're going to have a lot of travel headaches after May 7th. The Real ID. Isn't that just... I go back and forth on this. Isn't it just a way to coalesce everything federally? I think so. That's what I think. I don't know. We've got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. More in-store partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Burna Gun. It's a great thing to have a diverse weapons array, and this is what Burna offers you. Because, you know, you'll carry blades, and you'll carry different calibers. Not everybody has the luxury, by the way, of being able to live and work where you can take your firearm with you all the time. I have some very pro-2A friends that live... in DC and New York. And they're not able, they have one of those difficult to carry license, one of the difficult license to carries. And they still are barred from carrying like pretty much everywhere. They went on and got a Berna gun. 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I know that you are only 100 days in, but as we sit here today, who do you see as your successor, Mr. President?
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Well, it's far too early to say that, but I do have a vice president, and typically it would be, and JD's doing a fantastic job. He would be at the top of the list? It could very well be. I don't want to get involved in that. I think he's a fantastic, brilliant guy. Marco is great. There's a lot of them that are great. I also see tremendous unity. But certainly you would say that somebody who's the VP, if that person is outstanding, I guess that person would have an advantage. But I think the other people would all stay in unbelievably high positions. But, you know, it could be that he'd be challenged by somebody. We have a lot of good people in this party.
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He isn't claiming an heir, by the way. And I know that the media is trying to run that as another way to divide, but he's not claiming an heir, an H-E-I-R-A. He's not saying that that's, You're just saying, look, it's too early. You know, obviously, you know, the VP, et cetera. That's Trump talking to Kristen Welker. Welcome back. Bottom of the second hour. Although I entirely reject Marco Rubio. Entirely. A million with all my heart reject him. I have a very personal view of it. And my view is I was there in person and it was the Parkland Town Hall. And I he was there. I was there. I was speaking after him. And that's that infamous town hall. And he was on stage in the crowd. Remember, leading up to this, just to give you some insight, leading up to this, they had Robert Runcie, who was the superintendent of the school, Ted Deutsch, who called me a quote unquote bitch, screamed it at me when I was on stage. And he was sitting right next to my husband. And my husband had to say a prayer that he didn't punch him in the face. He had screaming at me and he got up on stage and they riled up that whole arena like a rally. You thought the Wellstone funeral was in poor taste when Democrats use that Paul Wellstone funeral to rally. Remember that whole thing came back in the day. This was like worse. Because they were exploiting a mass tragedy. Nobody talked about how much worse it was, what Democrats did at that Parkland town hall. They went out there and they gave campaign speeches and they were railing against Republicans. They were railing against gun owners. They called gun owners terrorists. This was before the CNN cameras started rolling. I was listening to all of this. And it was me and my husband backstage. And as part of my job at that time, or a job at that time, I had to represent firearm owners. And it wasn't a choice. And when the camera started rolling, they didn't tell everybody that, oh, well, we had all these politicians go up and make all these speeches. And so everybody's like, just bare, you know, just ready to rip out. They were ready to like hump air. They were ready to just, they, it was like a five minute tape. And I can't remember. I think he was up there with Deutsch. And Rubio was up there. And everybody got a chance to speak. And they were screaming at Rubio. They were booing him, cussing him. Oh, it was bad. And they were saying, well, what about red flag laws? And what about universal background checks? And I watched the mob bully him away from the Second Amendment live on stage. I watched him with my own eyes on live television. I was there. I watched him give them everything that they wanted. He agreed live on stage to red flag laws and universal background checks. That's not an exaggeration. He agreed to it and then they cheered him. And my heart fell into my stomach because I still had to go up after him. And my husband turned around and looked at me and he said, your job just got that much harder. I'm like, gulp. I know. And I had to go up there and I didn't give an inch. And after that, my view of him changed dramatically. And because of that, he's good in this role, but he's a subordinate. Because of that, I could never, ever, ever endorse him. I watched him sacrifice all of our rights and our self-defense because he bent both knees and bowed his head to the mob. Because it was convenient and easy for him to do. Now, I know everybody, the trend is to cheer him and applaud him. And I think he's doing a fine job as Secretary of State. He is a subordinate. I think when push comes to shove, I think he cracks under serious pressure. I watched it happen. I had a view that no other American in this country had. And ever since then, I was very critical of him. He will not have anything to do with me. His people will not have anything to do with me. And I wasn't mean. I wasn't harsh. I just said I've never been more disappointed in a lawmaker in my life than I was with him at that moment. The moment that his country needed him the most. The moment that gun owners, that Americans who want to make sure that they're safe, that needed him the most, he capitulated. And you can't crack... If you're going for the highest office in the land, you cannot crack. And he did. So he can never be the heir. I'm not going to get into some of the moderate part of his record. That's not very MAGA. But on that reason alone, that was more than just he failed on an issue. That was a test of character. And it was a test of personal strength. And he failed. Now, I think he is in his element that he was born to be in as Secretary of State. He's a surrogate, though. He takes his orders from the administration. And I think he's fine there. But I will not apologize to anyone for my position on this because no one else was there as I was right there on the side of the stage watching it. So no grifter can hold a candle to that real actual experience. So no, he can never be heir. And I would never support it. I would not support it. I couldn't vote for it. Because I've seen it. I mean, when you crack like that, it's no different than a Democrat. Now, I think it was interesting what Trump said about Vance. He said, well, you know, he said he's very brilliant. But if you notice, he said it in two or three different ways. It's early. He wants to just see, you know, and I think that's completely funny for crying out loud. The man's not even been back in the White House for 100 days and you're already like trying to push him out the door. Okay, who's your successor? Who's your successor? Give him a minute to do some stuff, okay? But that's the press. You had to know that that question was coming. I thought he handled it fine. I thought the way that the media is trying to present it, they're trying to make it divisive. They're saying, oh, look, he already named two people right here. Oh, these are his heirs. That's not what he said. He said there's a lot of good people. And I know because it's going to be brought up, some people are like, well, why didn't he mention DeSantis? He didn't exclude him. He just mentioned his VP, which is natural. And then the guy who literally is in the press because he assumed a million different temporary positions in addition to secretary of state right now until they can get these other roles filled. So, yeah, he's right there all the time. That's not unusual. I get it. So I think that the way Trump handled that answer was completely fine. There was nothing. There's no drama there. He didn't exclude anybody. And he said it's too early. And he said potential, potential, potential. He never claimed anything. So don't get baited by the press into thinking that Trump said something that he did not. Can you heard the same thing? Correct. Didn't he say it like three different times? He kept it like he purposefully was trying to keep it as open as possible. And it's still not going to be good enough for the press. They're still going to try to find some way to divide. Don't buy into that nonsense. I thought it was completely fine the way he did it. And honestly, I got to tell you. I think the signal gate thing and the way that he was handling Mike Waltz, especially if this comes down to reshifting things as it pertains to Iran, that was a very smooth move. Don't you think so, Kane? Oh, yeah. Because he didn't get removed. My thought, he didn't get removed because of signal gate. It's because of Iran, because of his position on Iran. That's why he got moved. So, you know, there's this is all it's it's all just the way it is. Just the way it is. All right. A couple of things because we got we have time for some red state rhinos one. I just got a couple of things here. So serious, isn't it? It's like red state rhino hunting noir. So a couple of things. They are considering, you know, obviously several different bits of legislation. They have a Reader Act, which is being proposed. This is coming from Kristen Bentley, who is a committee woman in the first Senate district. And SB3, it's a fix to the Reader Act for Texas. Now, you know, we focus on rhinos, obviously, for this red state rhino hunting issue. And I'm not ignoring other states and there are other states that we're going to get to, but we focus on with put a particular emphasis on Texas and Florida because they are the biggest red states and you can't lose them. You particularly can't lose Texas. So SB 13, they're looking at requiring consistent review procedures and basically giving and also making it to where parents have to sign off on. non-academic materials that are presented in schools like you're like elementary as well so that we can get rid of the age inappropriate sexual material that is constantly being introduced in school that's you know ultimately gets into all I mean the train stuff and all this this other stuff that's in these schools and there are of course you know some it's in the Public Education Committee It's SB 13. And there are some it's nobody's fixed their name yet. But there are some lawmakers that are trying to push back against this that are Republicans of all the things. It's kind of amazing that this is something that just consistently keeps happening now in Florida. I can't even believe I'm about to say this. They actually had a big win. Because their speaker, Danny Perez, finally was forced to yield on property taxes. So you remember the Florida House speaker, a big rhino. who was fighting forever against any kind of property tax relief for Floridians. He said it was impractical. He's lost the battle. And so now the Select Committee on Property Taxes, they are now allowed, they're looking at proposals to overhaul the entire property tax structure for the state of Florida. One of the things that the governor had said is that they require homeowners, you're constantly paying rent. Constitutional protections for Florida homeowners require the approval of voters. In 26, Floridians need relief. So they're pushing, they're exploring everything from like a $1,000 rebate, whatever it is, until the committee can formulate a permanent structure. They overhaul it and then they can get it passed in the legislature. They had been blocked by the Republican Speaker of the House for forever. And now he lost this battle. And so now it's going forward. So that is a huge, huge thing. And that goes to a lot of grassroots people in Florida who started hearing about this. And they started burning down his phone lines. And when he started seeing the pushback from Floridians in that state, his knees buckled. So you have the power to do this. You just got to do it. And you got to get your friends and your family to do it. Because it doesn't matter how powerful the Speaker of the House is in a particular state. They're never going to be as powerful as you are. When you bring that heat the way that these people have been bringing on him, you can get it done. So that's a big win. So now they're pushing forward in all of that. As we move, our partners are bringing the program, our friends over at Kel-Tec. Great company, great all-American company. They got the PR57, the rotary barrel pistol, the lightest 5.7 on the market, 40% lighter than competition. It's perfect for concealed carry. You can actually really concealed carry this 5.7. It's awesome. 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It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
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it's time for florida man wow oh my gosh this is crazy a florida homeowner because you know iguanas are invasive species in florida that's what they're considered a florida homeowner found 98 iguana eggs in their backyard and when they called the humane iguana control division of florida fish and wildlife uh they said that that was literally the most they had ever seen in one site. And it was from, I think they said three different females that they, because they, I mean, they tell people to hunt these things. Three female iguanas had nested in burrows. They were all interconnected and each had their own clutch. And they said it's a record, the most ever. They've never found in the history of the state. And they said iguanas are more than a nuisance. They dig burrows that damages infrastructure, landscape destruction, health risks. You know, like the salmonella on the skin, all that stuff. They said that one even compromised an actual dam before. And it was a $2 million. They had $2 million of taxpayer money to fix it. Isn't that crazy? So that's... A Florida man was arrested because he had three different wives in three different counties, and that is a big, bad no-no. Ew. I think, did we have this before? I think we had this one. Yeah, I think I had this one last Friday, so we don't need that one again. Also, let's see here. I had another one. This, hmm. A couple. Hang on. I don't want to read. That was gross. Not reading that one. A Florida man was accused of ramming into a Boca Raton fire engine. Apparently he was triggered. I've never seen a guy with such a large forehead in my life. It was a roadside outburst. It landed him in handcuffs, yelled at firefighters, hit their fire engine and sped off. And there was a call later on into police that said a vehicle was forcing other cars off the road. And they got this guy, 40-year-old Christian Diorcini, and he was screaming at firefighters. And that's when he backed into a fire engine, tried to speed off. They did catch him, and he had a DUI, left the scene of an accident, property damage, all kinds of stuff. So he was under some kind of influence per CBS 12. Yeah, I would say so. And I'm not going to have time for this one tomorrow. I'll tell you about the one who assaulted a gate agent at DFW, which you can't do. So we got a lot more on the way. Third hour next. Stick with us. The only I mean, literally the only Christian conservative cell phone provider out there. And it's Patriot Mobile. So like if you're upset that people spend money on Netflix or Amazon. You're going to get madder that you're spending more of your money on a cell phone service that donates to, like, gun control and DEI and CRT and all this nonsense. Patriot Mobile has affordable plans for everybody. That's great. Everybody wants to save money in this economy. But they also have great nationwide coverage. They operate on all three major networks. You're connected wherever you go. You support what you believe in. This is all about better coverage and coverage. uh more more uh choice in terms of what causes you support what causes matter to you uh because your money isn't working against you at the ballot box like for instance they helped empower they worked with grassroots parents in our town when they were fighting we're all fighting to take back our school board from people who i can't even tell you some of the stuff that they wanted to teach in the classrooms because we have decency rules for airwaves but that being said they empowered the parents to be successful in taking back the school board here, and they work with people all over the country in addition to providing top-notch cell phone service. Seamless Switching, 100% based U.S. customer service team. Keep your number, your phone, however you want, or upgrade. It's never been easier to switch. So visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service using promo code Dana. Make the switch today and defend freedom with every call and text you make. patriotmobile.com slash Dana, 972-PATRIOT.
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How did you decide to reopen Alcatraz? Can you walk us through that decision?
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Did I say what?
SPEAKER 02 :
To reopen Alcatraz. How will you use it? How did you come up with the idea?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker. We started with the movie making and we'll end. I mean, it represents something very strong, very powerful in terms of law and order. Our country needs law and order. Alcatraz is, I would say, the ultimate, right? Alcatraz, Sing Sing and Alcatraz, the movies. And it's right now a museum, believe it or not. A lot of people go there. It has the most violent criminals in the world. And nobody ever escaped. One person almost got there, but they, as you know the story, they found his clothing rather badly ripped up. And it was a lot of shark bites, a lot of problems. Nobody's ever escaped from Alcatraz and just represented something strong having to do with law and order. We need law and order in this country. And so we're going to look at it. Some of the people up here are going to be working very hard on that. And we had a little conversation, I think.
SPEAKER 06 :
The shark bites, a lot of shark. Well, there's shark infested water right there, I mean. I'm just saying, it is, isn't it, Kane? I mean, you know, the sharks are hungry right there. All they got are needles and feces.
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That's where they're looking to get their bites in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you got to get your bites in. And then their little watch goes off and says, you did it. I don't know what's happening. Oh, my gosh. Welcome back to the program. We're at the top of this third hour. It's the weather. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of the third hour. Greetings and salutations. A little quick sidebar. Our studio, we have Wick here, our rescue pup. This dog, we've had to teach him how to be a dog. In a way, because we got him from a shelter and he never like went outside without a person before. So the first time I let him go outside, you know, like, go out to your backyard, you know, and you can go use the restroom. He looked at me like I was crazy. Like, get here, woman. Like, you got to walk out with me. I can't do this by myself. And he is petrified of storms. I've never... I mean, he just shakes. He just tucks his tail and just shakes whenever there's like thunder, whenever it's storming. And then, you know, if whatever was going on, we got to stop it and make sure he's chill. And he doesn't like being in his kennel except to go to bed at night. That's the only time. And most dogs want a safe space. Wick does not want to be in his kennel. So... I made a pillow fort for him. Like a whole pillow fort that he can get in and hide. So I'll let you know how that works out. I'm like, well, I don't, he doesn't want to be in his kennel. So the next best thing is a pillow fort.
SPEAKER 03 :
How many pillows have you used in this pillow fort?
SPEAKER 06 :
A lot. And I, there's like a blanket and I, I am an expert pillow fort builder. I don't know if anybody knows this. It's a particular skill set that I have. I've made many, many pillow forts, not just as a child, but also as a boy mom. I have made some pillow forts in my time. And so it's a really keen, it's a spectacular pillow fort in which Wick can find security from the storm since he doesn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Does he calm down in the pillow fort?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I don't know. We're trying it for the first time. So we're going to see. That's what I did on break. I'm like, I went and cobbled together. If I do say so myself, a pretty spectacular pillow for it. And we're going to see if that maybe because he wants to be under stuff and in. And if he sits by you when it's storming, you have to basically hug him. You have to put your arm around him and hug him. Or he'll try to melt into your head. It's just like he tries to get right there by you.
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That poor guy.
SPEAKER 06 :
He is just... And someone was telling me a thunder shirt. People who have never dressed toddlers are like, get a thunder shirt for your dog. Dressing a dog is as bad, if not worse sometimes, I think, than dressing a toddler. Well, unless it was my youngest. and i i just don't know if that's going to work out so i don't even know what it's a shirt that hugs you tight yeah i guess it's supposed to be like those compression blankets that make you feel like you're being hugged i feel like that's not going to work for him he's he's a very smart dog he is super smart he learned how to open gates and all kinds of stuff he's incredibly smart he but uh yeah so he's just except he doesn't recognize just a basic storm he's smart but you know So we'll see how that goes.
SPEAKER 03 :
There's no meteorologist. Give him a break.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I mean, it is kind of out of nowhere. It was sunny this morning, and then all of a sudden a storm comes rolling through again, and the thunder is so loud that sometimes it carries over air. It's crazy. So anyway, that's my life right now. I'm just making sure my dog doesn't have an existential breakdown when I'm on air because of the thunder. So if one day you guys happen to tune in, And you hear like some whining in the background of the mic if you're not watching or if you just see a giant yellow dog here in the seat with me. It's because the pillow for it didn't work. It didn't work. And so he's he's got to be he's got to and he just sits there. It's the funniest thing. He doesn't move. It's like he thinks if he's still the storm won't see him. Like the big roll of thunder. He acts like if he's just super still, the storm won't see him. And he just he sits as still as a cigar store Indian. He just sits there and will not move. So he'll just he'll probably look like a fake dog. So it may happen now. It may happen here in the next the next few. So bear with us. It's our high maintenance show dog. Oh, my gosh. Now, Lorraine says for her dog, it's the electricity in the air more so than the thunder. I didn't even think about that. Really? The electricity in the air? I just think it's muggy. Anyway, so. All right, so POTUS having a little press avail right there, and he's discussing Alcatraz. I just, again, I don't think you need to make it all up, right? Just make sure you got the electric fences work, and I think you're good, right? Don't you think so? And the locks work? Yeah, I think that'll... I don't even know how much that would... Are we running out of prison space?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know. I mean, we've been letting prisoners out for all kinds of different reasons.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And overpopulation's been one of those reasons.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I just... Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, maybe we do, but I'm not against it. I'm not against it. Put us at down with Kristen Welker. and was grilling him about a number of different issues. Can we have Audio Summit 6? Because I need to hear what he says about Jasmine Crockett. Go ahead and play this one.
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I can't name one Democrat. I mean, I look at the Democrats. They're in total disarray. They have a new person named Crockett. I watched her speak the other day. She's definitely a low-IQ person. And they said she's the future of the party.
SPEAKER 06 :
She's dumb. How is that possible? That's what he just said. Now, speaking of Crockett, was this at her audio soundbite? I think this. Oh, 17. So she was speaking at a commencement ceremony. You know, just this sounds like a particular just like I guess what a regular commencement material. Listen to this.
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There are going to be people that tell you that you don't belong, and I am here to tell you over and over and over that you absolutely belong. There are people that are going to tell you that there is not a table in which there is a seat for you, but I am here to remind you of Montgomery and those folding chairs. Let me tell you that we know how to use a chair, whether we pulling it up or we doing something else with it.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, so I guess she thinks that. So this was her graduation, her commencement speech Sunday. This is she was in Mississippi. 20 minute speech and. She's like unnecessarily wordy, like instead of, you know, at a table in which there is a chair, you could just say a seat at the table, you know, at the table and using a bunch of words strung together poorly does not make you sound smarter. It makes you sound dumb. Just say a seat at the table. That's it. But she's talking about this, the fight that, she's talking about chairs. Do you remember this 2023 fight that was in Montgomery, Alabama? And it was, it was boaters that fought with, I guess, like a dock worker and a couple of other people. Remember this? It was a bunch of drunk people that fought and then there were chairs involved. I don't even know. And it had to do with a parking spot at the dock. Like somebody was trying to dock their boat and somebody else, there was like a large river boat. And then there was a smaller private boat and everybody got into a fight and they, everybody made it a racial thing. And because they said, well, the, you know, the city has a history of racial violence. I don't necessarily, I mean, I don't know if it was a race thing more as much as it was a drunk person, drunk people entitled thing. I don't know. But, I mean, I guess, you know, she needed it to be that. She referenced that. That's what she was talking about with the folding chair. Like, that doesn't even make sense. You're talking about a drunk fight over dock space and a... What? But why is that the message? First off, who's telling people that they don't that there isn't a seat for them at the table? Oh, sorry. A table at which there is a seat also known as a chair that you could have the seat at. I don't get it, Cain. Who's telling anybody this? The only people that are saying this are people like her. The only people that are going, oh, there's no room at the table. It's her. She's the one who's telling them this.
SPEAKER 03 :
She did respond to him on X.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah?
SPEAKER 03 :
I put that in Slack.
SPEAKER 06 :
She did respond to him on X. Yeah. Well, her remarks were stupid when she's talking about the chair. But she said... She tweeted, as Kane noted, she tweeted... Quote, gosh, for you to be in charge of the whole country, you sure do have my name in your mouth a lot. OK, first off, let's stop with the first sentence. He doesn't even know your name. He just knew your last name. And he only mentioned you one time. So get over yourself. And can we stop saying name in your mouth? Like, that's so stupid. Just shut up. I'm so tired of people trying to sound hard ass. And like, I'm going to say something that I think other hard ass people say. And if I say it, then I'm going to borrow the hard assedness. Just stop. And then she goes, every time you say my name, you're reminding the world that you're terrified of smart, bold black women telling the truth and holding you accountable. Like what? Like he mentioned you one time. He mentioned her one time. Like he wig snatched you. And why are you still talking? Like stop. He didn't even mention your whole name. So she snatched her own wig at her speech. I've never seen anybody do a self-wig snatch, an SWS, harder than this woman does. It just does not keep my name out of your mouth. Okay, that's not even how that works, but okay. I feel like I'm watching Schitt's Creek, the show. Fold in the cheese, David. Well, what does it even mean? I just fold it in. Keep my name out of your mouth. What does that even mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
The funny thing is that every time she talks about it, it's proving his point.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah. I mean, she's... She talks about him all the time. He just referenced her one time. One time. He just mentioned her one time. And she loses it on X. Loses it. She was so excited that he even mentioned her last name. Nobody remembers her first name. And the only reason that they remember her last name is because it's Davy Crockett's name first. And it's a little bit jarring to realize that somebody with the last name Crockett is such an idiot. And so entitled. I mean, she's literally like a trust fund socialist. I told you she grew up in the ritziest area in St. Louis and she went to the most expensive and exclusive private school ever. I mean, MICDS is, that's where all the politicians' kids went, all the CEOs' kids went, all the debutants, all the billionaires and the millionaires' kids, all the ballplayers' kids were at MICDS. Like everybody was at, if you had money and you had, your parents were famous, you were at MICDS. That was like the school. And it was, it's super expensive. It's like more expensive than a four-year university. It is insanely expensive to go there. Beautiful campus, but I had to do a profile. One of my first jobs after college was writing a celebrity profile on a performing artist, and they went to MICDS. And when I walked into that school, I was blown away because it was like a world away from how I grew up. I mean... and so yeah she's i i think she tries to cosplay like she's hood well she does she tries to cosplay hood and she's not like aoc tries to cosplay like she's tough it's like stop it just looks so bad it's so bad so the um That was her commencement address. I just can't believe that you would reference drunk people fighting with folding chairs over dock space at a commencement address and then act like that's somehow representative of racial struggle. I mean, if you're, it doesn't even make any sense. And she was in Mississippi, right? And she's referencing something that was in Montgomery, Alabama. I don't understand. None of that makes sense to me. Of course, you know, not the brightest bulb in the box. Not really. Oh, she kept going. Listen, this is nuts. It's easy to play because she says stuff that's so crazy. Oh, wait, we got to move, don't we? Hold that thought. Hold that thought. Sorry, Steve is dying. Steve got to yell at me. We got to move because Steve will have a stroke and we won't have any quick five. GoldCo is making it easy to take that first step toward protecting your savings. Just fill out a quick form, no commitment, just free information. And then they'll ship you your free 2025 gold and silver kits straight to your door. No shipping fees, no strings. Just a free info kit to help you understand how gold and silver can fit into your financial plan. I'm a big believer in doing your research, and this kit is a great place to start. So I'm really excited to be partnering with Goldco because not only do they support my show, which I truly appreciate, but they've made the whole process of buying precious metals Super straightforward. Because if you're a fan of the show, Gold Co. is also going to tell you how to qualify for unlimited free bonus silver on eligible orders. If you qualify, you can even get a free half ounce silver Ronald Reagan coin. Totally free. Don't wait. Take that first step towards protecting and diversifying your savings with Gold Co. Visit danalikesgold.com to learn more. That's danalikesgold.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. Listen coast to coast. You can also find us, Channel 347, on DirecTV, X, Rumble, all that good stuff. So very interesting headline that I had to double check to make sure it was real. Chinese officials are reportedly seeking to discuss fentanyl and the fentanyl ingredients amid all of the stuff with the trade war. Apparently, it was reported that their minister of public security has made some inquiries over the past few days. Now, I don't know. what that means. Like can we talk to you about fentanyl? Can we have a talk? How does that even work? So to talk to us about this, our very good friend Steven Yates. You know him. He's on the show regularly. You can find him on X at Yates Comms. Yeah, Yates Comms. And of course he worked in not one but two previous presidential administrations and he is the senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He joins us now not via Skype because Skype is now dead. Steven, it's good to talk with you. What does that mean when they say, yeah, we're interested in talking about fentanyl? Like,
SPEAKER 10 :
okay so talk yeah well for you and me and everyone with common sense that should be the reflex uh for the chinese communists they seem to have been taken a little by surprise and i say this not to make excuses for them because i don't and would never and i'd rather they go die under a tree but they seem to have been scratching their heads that americans might be serious that they shut the flow of this poison that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. And that's not actually negotiable. We don't need to talk about it. Just do it. And if you do it, then we can go on to negotiate other things. It was a bit of a test.
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Yeah.
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So here they waited through the first hundred days of the Trump administration not doing the things they knew that the Trump team was telling them they needed to do. and escalating the rhetoric on all the other forms of tariffs. And then they start sending their surrogates to DC to talk to the tanks where they have China programs that actually come and go to China, unlike mine. And they start saying, hey, well, what does Trump want? What does the administration need? What are we really trying to negotiate? And for whatever reason, they'll come around and they'll have their friends come ask me because they don't ask directly to me. And I say, well, you know, this isn't rocket science said right from the outset. The very first tariffs that were that were levied were linked to stop the fentanyl precursors. This isn't really an academic debate. They know who's doing it. They know where they're doing it. They know where the money's being laundered. And they can stop it 100% in a day if they're so motivated. And if you wonder, look how quickly they locked down the entire city of Shanghai when they wanted to or needed to. Look how they stomped on Hong Kong when they wanted to or needed to. This isn't academic. So that's the dance that we're playing right now. I think the president wants to make a deal to rebalance the economic relationship. But I think he correctly, and I hope he sticks to his guns about it, said this fentanyl thing is not actually negotiable. Do something meaningful that we can verify and measure. And then we'll talk about the other things.
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Yeah, that makes all the sense in the world because they were saying it. I think it was Fox and others that reported these, you know, Chinese government officials were, well, what is the administration? They were asking, what does the administration want us to do? about the inputs for fentanyl. Well, stop sending them to the cartels. I mean, it's just that simple. Maybe stop having that kind of relationship with the cartels. It's interesting too, whenever they talk about fentanyl, Stephen, they never mentioned that aspect of the equation. They never talk about their association with the cartels, which they kind of treat the cartels like they're their own independent sovereign entity.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Well, and they seem to have no shame in that association. Now, we shouldn't expect communist parties to have too much shame, but at the same time, that is the other reason why I think that fentanyl precursor materials, not the stuff that's used to treat pain in surgeries and hospitals or whatever else, but the illicit precursors should be listed as WMD, because then we are listing not just the vehicles for bringing these things into our country, the cartels, but also the substance themselves, and it double brands. Okay, China, you wanna be a world leader saying you're upholding rules and norms, you're trafficking in weapons of mass destruction. And so go ahead, Europe, you wanna warm up to someone trafficking in weapons of mass destruction? That's your association now. And I think that that might, might, might, do something that has been more than just get talks going. But really, we're dealing with bad people who've been willing to kill a lot of Americans already. We shouldn't be surprised they make this hard and they don't operate under our logic.
SPEAKER 06 :
The New York Times had, we're talking with our friend Stephen Yates, the New York Times had the headline, China looks for a way out of U.S. trade deadlock, fentanyl could be the key. Is their willingness to discuss fentanyl, you think, kind of maybe the beginning of them waving a white flag on this trade war?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, from what I hear, and my information is as imperfect as everyone else's in this regard.
SPEAKER 06 :
I feel like you know a little more than everybody else. Let's be honest about it. Go on.
SPEAKER 10 :
The goalposts seem to shift in the life we live now at light speed and Trump speed for news cycles. But what I think has been very, very clear is that the president is interested in talking to Xi Jinping. He's just not interested in conceding in advance. The Chinese side is trying to intimate they're not interested in conceding in advance. But I think that the president has rightly held out fentanyl as something different. It shouldn't be negotiable. Right. And so if they want to have talks about what to do about fentanyl, they're wasting their time. They know what needs to be done and with whom, and they can do that. And if they won't do that, what should that tell any reasonable American, European, Asian or otherwise about how can you negotiate and deal with this kind of government if they won't do this? If they were poisoning your children, would you negotiate free trade with them? It's insane. And so it has to be the prerequisite from my point of view. I'm not the president. No one elected me and he hasn't asked for my advice. But for free of charge, Mr. President, I think you're on the right track and stick to your guns on this.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a good. I would say that they should listen to you. I mean, you you were. there before, and you've had other POTUSes listen to you. We're talking with our good friend Stephen Yates at Yatescoms on X. So in the Pacific, we have obviously the threat of China, and then we focus so much on the Middle East, but then recently, and this is where I wanted to get kind of your experience and expertise on this, because with the dismissal of Mike Waltz being where he is, now he's going to be the UN ambassador, I don't feel like that all happened because of the signal leak I feel like that happened because of Iran and how you have these two different factions in the administration that don't seem to be on the same page with us. Trump and, I think, Vance, for the most part, seem to be more of, let's approach this diplomatically. We don't want to either look like we're going towards conflict with Iran or commit to anything like that. But then you have others, more like Tom Cotton and some other folks that are there, Lindsey Graham, who absolutely, to them, everything is a nail there, the hammer. They want to bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. I mean, it seems like there's these two factions competing in the administration. What do you make of this? And what does that forecast for how we're going to deal with them?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, this is a hard challenge. You're not wrong about the mixed forces. And the reason there are those mixed forces is because the United States has tried a lot of different things. And what we know with a certainty is the things that were tried before mostly didn't work. The thing that worked the best was Trump 1.0's maximum pressure and Abraham Accord's combo seems to put us our allies in the region in the best possible position at least since the nineteen seventies and that's not for nothing but it also didn't solve the problem in the problem might not be solvable with acceptable risk on our part that's the reason why it's a hard job to be president as a hard job to advise presidents i have no idea what the true sort of tender was that let things off to have to make a change for the national security adviser i would say that whatever there is really sensitive negotiations going on everyone is at risk of getting a little out on their skis around a step with the president and this administration in the first hundred days have like three or four very sensitive and complicated negotiations going on at the same time. Never seen anything like that before. And so the risk of sort of crossing wires at some point and wanting change is going to be really high. And it's going to be high for whoever has that position under those circumstances. I would assess. So but in dealing with Iran, I think the president is trying to see, is there some kind of deal to be had? I actually kind of doubt there is. What are our allies looking for? Israel is still having to try to defeat Gaza. And there's still a lot of people in the international community trying to hold them back from doing it. and the Iranian threat of having a nuclear weapon, that's obviously aimed at Israel and aimed at the United States. And so this is not easy stuff, and China and Russia aren't making it any easier. So people talk about three-dimensional, four-dimensional chess. I don't understand that. I could never play it. But this is kind of what the president is facing, and I think it's really hard. Most of the building blocks he's trying, I think, are on the right track. But we can't count on the bad people coming along and getting with the program.
SPEAKER 06 :
What are – I know that Oman was hosting I think the last – like a week ago they were hosting some talks I think with Steve Witkoff and others. From what I was reading, there was supposed to be another round of talks this weekend that ended up ultimately being canceled because you mentioned the Abraham Accords. And I'm thinking a nuclearized Iran is – is way more dangerous to a lot like, you know, the I go back to like the Sunni Shia conflict and they're way more dangerous than, you know, to this as much as they are dangerous to Israel in the United States. I would imagine they're super dangerous in on those terms to Saudi Arabia as well. It just seems like all that's reported about their involvement is just hosting talks and maybe doing some mediation. It's just is there more to it than that? That's just not getting reported.
SPEAKER 10 :
I strongly suspect there's a lot more going on with our major allies in that region. When I say major, I mean those that have the financial and military means to make a meaningful difference in shaping the region. And so I think the United Arab Emirates punches above its weight in that regard. I think Saudi Arabia. is vital in trying to keep some sense of balance. This isn't a question of, do you love every part of every kingdom that you deal with? It's a matter of, do you have a coalition that can keep the darkest genie in a bottle in order for the rest of us to have an alternative path to peace and prosperity? And with those, I think the president is scheduled in the not too distant future to go spend several days over in the Middle East and will have very, I think, in-depth and serious and, I think, very blunt talks with leaders over there that will be on the Iran situation and what's the end state for the Gaza situation and what America can do and can't do and what they need to do and listen to them also. I mean, that's the under-told story is people talk about Trump being a certain way, but he He actually is doing a lot of listening to the allies that are serious about sharing risk and resources to address these things. So he'll hear what the Saudis and the Emiratis have to say and what the Israelis have to say. And that's vital to trying to chart this path forward.
SPEAKER 06 :
There you go. Stephen Yates, always the expert. See, you need to be telling the administration. You need to be right. I would feel better. I would feel better knowing that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Just hope they're tuning in. And, you know, this is managerial excellence, free of charge.
SPEAKER 06 :
There you go right there. At Yates Combs on X. Go and find him. He has all kinds of good stuff that he puts out there regularly. Stephen, always a pleasure. Thank you, my friend.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you, Dana. Take care.
SPEAKER 06 :
You too.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to the program. A little we care a lot from Faith No More, which was so great. By the way, so we're talking about I ate a late lunch. I had the weirdest eating schedule because we're on air in the middle of the afternoon. And I'm going to say something that's probably very unpopular, the Cinco de Mayo. But I'm going to say it. What? Yeah. I love Taco Bell. And it's amazing. And I'm tired of pretending that it's not.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
Cain and I. You could have chose any other day of the year.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's like I pull up and I have them. Like, it's amazing. Right? It's like so fast.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait. You just pull up and then you have them? I have them. It's so good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my gosh. It's like when you pull up to a fast tamale spot and they're like, here, and you just have them. And, oh, man, by the way, your mom, I wanted to hire your mom to make some more tamales, by the way. Oh, man. She makes the best ones.
SPEAKER 03 :
See, that's the kind of, and people know this, especially ones that grew up in Mexican families. You're just like, look, okay, Taco Bell's great.
SPEAKER 06 :
I know, he's dying right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're drunk at one in the morning or whatever, and you need a, you know, something that resembles.
SPEAKER 06 :
Our fam down in KU RV is dying right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Something that kind of resembles Mexican food. And, yeah, that's what you do. That's what you do.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's so good, though. It's like I'm not saying I don't even classify it as Mexican food. It's just its own Taco Bell. It's just like its own thing. I mean, I would. Yeah. Wouldn't necessarily say that it's. Yeah. But, oh my gosh, like it's so good. Like they do weird stuff with their breading. It's like a chalupa. What's that? It's a fried taco shell or soft tortilla, whatever. It's so good. I feel like they should advertise on the show, but they don't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Taco Bell?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. If I lived next door to one, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I would be 5,000 pounds. I would be on like My Big Life or whatever the hell that's called.
SPEAKER 03 :
Seriously, you love Taco Bell that much?
SPEAKER 06 :
Dude, I love it. I get into weird ruts.
SPEAKER 03 :
What's your go-to when you go to Taco Bell?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh my gosh, what isn't? I love any of the cantina things that they got, the fresco stuff, the gordita. I love refried beans so much.
SPEAKER 03 :
More hard taco or soft taco person? Soft.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hard taco is a joke. What? I love hard tacos. Hard taco is a joke. It is a trick on you. What? It's a joke. What's the trick? That it's bad. It looks like you think it's going to be good and it's not. It's bad. It's what it is. But I'm going to get so much hate and I don't even care.
SPEAKER 1 :
I don't even care.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's so good. I'm tired of pretending that's not, and you can get so much. You can get so much for it. Anyway, so.
SPEAKER 03 :
As far as fast food goes, it's the cheapest out there right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it's healthy. You can get a bowl and not have the breading.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it's healthy? You said those words in a sentence.
SPEAKER 06 :
I so did. Maha. I think we just killed Kane. We're going to need to call the 911s.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, I don't want to, no pun intended, crap on Taco Bell.
SPEAKER 06 :
There's no pun there. It's all beef. It's all beef, my friend. It's all beef. Beef and chicken.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was definitely a pun.
SPEAKER 06 :
That chicken clucked at one point.
SPEAKER 03 :
It was definitely a pun there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it wasn't. All right, go ahead with your today and stupidity.
SPEAKER 03 :
Already? All right.
SPEAKER 06 :
You hater.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, all right. Listen to this. This is Jen Psaki. Now, you know that the media has been doing this for the past three or four years. They just denied. As a matter of fact, if you even said that Biden had some cognitive decline, you were attacked. You were shamed. All of it. And now, of course, there's plenty of books out there now saying this. Listen to what she says here. Jen Psaki cuts one.
SPEAKER 11 :
I never saw that person, not a single time. And I was in the Oval Office every day that was on that debate stage. She's the spokesperson. I'm not a doctor.
SPEAKER 03 :
The White House spokesperson.
SPEAKER 11 :
Aging happens quite quickly.
SPEAKER 03 :
And she's still to this day claiming that she didn't see a thing. I don't trust your judgment.
SPEAKER 06 :
No one believes that. And if they didn't see it, I don't want these people anywhere near making decisions for the rest of the nation. Yeah, that's stupid. How did you not see him? I mean, the man didn't even know where he was. All right. That's it for us tonight. Sign up at Substack, Chapter and Verse, Facebook, YouTube. Like and subscribe. I'll be back with you tomorrow. God bless.