Andy Peth fills in on Rush to Reason with a powerful message for fiscal conservatives: pass the big spending bill or lose the House in 2026. He argues for strategic compromise to preserve a potential second Trump term, urging libertarians like Rand Paul to take a hard look at political reality. Then, it's laughs and debates as Andy, Luke, and Tanner discuss who should play the next James Bond (spoiler: not Tom Holland), bash Pixar's latest flop 'Elio,' and review the post-apocalyptic horror film 40 Acres, calling it slow, divisive, and agenda-driven. Finally, they tear into Jurassic World Rebirth—great effects, but too formulaic. Buckle up for politics, pop culture, and unapologetic honesty.
SPEAKER 07 :
Filling in is Andy Peth, party of choice. And I'm your host, Andy Peth, filling in for John Rush today. One more day. John's going to be back next week. We are going to be off the rest of the week. Doing best of shows should be a lot of fun. I'm joined, of course, by Luke Cash and Tanner Coleman. I thought I'd throw it in for you because you haven't been manly enough lately.
SPEAKER 05 :
What, you can't handle this type of flow?
SPEAKER 07 :
I really can't. I just can't.
SPEAKER 06 :
You can't handle that. I'm standing on business.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. We've got a lot of Hollywood stuff to get to here in a moment. But first, I just want to talk for a moment about the big, beautiful bill. Okay. Just one little bit of politics. I just want to tell people. I know right now there are a lot of people out there who are complaining that it is too big and it's spending too much. I want you to know I agree. But it has to. OK, because guess what? Right now, about 65 percent of Americans oppose the big, beautiful bill. And it's not because if you look at the districts where they oppose it, it's not because it spends too much. It's because it spends too little. So for all my libertarian-leaning friends out there, for all the Rand Pauls, for all the Thomas Massys and those folks, I just want to be a little bit realistic with you. If we put through anything even remotely close to what you want or what I want, because fiscally that's where I am, okay? I'm far right. I would be cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Folks, if we did that, I guarantee you we would lose at least 20 to 30 seats in the House in 2026. Okay? What does that mean? That means the last two years of Trump's presidency, there is no Trump presidency. Not a good idea. So, folks, I'm really hoping, really hoping in the next day or two they pass this thing, put it through. I know there's more spending than we want, but the purest notion that we can just get by without it isn't going to work. If we do that, we lose the house. We lose it massively. in 2026. And one other thing, I was noticing that some people were saying, why are we doing it so quickly? Why does it got to be right now? Why does it got to be right now? Let me tell you. And I'm going to throw it to you guys. Because too many American voters are dumb. All right. And here's what I mean. When you've got 65% and this is 70% independents, by the way, who are looking at this, this thing that barely cuts, and saying it's not enough spending, and we're going to have all these terrible things happening. We're going to lose our medical. We're going to lose our homes. We're going to lose everything. There's going to be fires in the street. It's going to be L.A., but nationally. And they're saying this. This means that they do not know what's coming. And so if we pass this right away, it means it's going to have a full year before the next election season for them to see. Guess what? The only people off Medicaid are the ones who shouldn't have been on Medicaid. OK, that it's not the worst thing in the world for Medicare recipients. I mean, I'm sorry, not Medicare, but for welfare recipients to work 20 hours a week and pitch in a little bit that the world is not going to end. They need to see that there's going to be an economic boom. They need to see all the goodness. And they need to see it for an extended period of time. So once again, Rand Paul, Thomas Massey, I got news for you. Your economics are exactly the same as mine. I agree with you on virtually everything under the sun. But it won't sell. Not enough Americans agree with you. And we need that. Thoughts?
SPEAKER 05 :
Agreed. I briefly looked over the bill today. I thought there was a lot of good things in there. Some things I wasn't 100% sure on. But the fact that we have millions of Americans that haven't worked real jobs in who knows how long and who knows if they ever have is kind of shocking. And it goes to show you kind of the direction our country has been heading in for a while. Yeah. It's laziness. And you can't just care in the world about our country.
SPEAKER 07 :
And you can't just turn that ship suddenly. Can you, Luke? I mean, if you do that suddenly, they're just going to vote you out. That's true. They need transition. You got to turn the barge around right now. You've got an entire America that's been educated by the public education system for several decades. They're not suddenly going to become perfect, wonderful capitalists overnight. Is that fair?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. Now that's enough of that. I want to talk a little Hollywood. Did you hear who the next James Bond might be?
SPEAKER 05 :
No. I always thought he was a black lesbian.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, of course. But if they don't do that, failing that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is it the Ariana Grande's other half? No.
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Tom Holland.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't mind that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you know Tom Holland?
SPEAKER 05 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, come on.
SPEAKER 05 :
Uncharted, Spider-Man.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's 5'7". He's a shrimp. What's he going to do, secret missions to the Shire?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, look at Tom Cruise out there.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, he's not Tom Cruise, okay? No, Tom Holland's too boyish. He's boyish.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's better, I think.
SPEAKER 07 :
Does Tom Holland have Cruise as cool?
SPEAKER 05 :
No. No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, granted, they're both... Shall we say... Man looks hot. Little people. What?
SPEAKER 1 :
Jeez.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're so troubled. You're so troubled. So I just want to get an idea. Who do you guys think should be the next James Bond?
SPEAKER 06 :
Me, personally? If I had dealer's choice, Henry Cavill. Oh. I like that. I think he would be a killer James Bond. He's got charisma. He's got size. He's got some charm to him. He's a great actor. I think he'd do excellent.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've got another choice, but first I want to hear yours.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think just bring back Daniel Craig. Screw it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, he's getting old. He's getting old. By the way, he's not that tall either. But my only problem, and who do you want again? Henry Cavill. Only problem is he's getting up there. Henry Cavill is not a young guy anymore. So he's going to age quickly. And this was a problem. They took way too long to put Pierce Brosnan into it so he could only do a few movies. I want to run one by you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
timothy chalamet from from dune i feel like that's the same route as holland i feel like he's also no he's taller oh yeah he i mean he he doesn't look 30 and he's 30 yeah but i mean so you don't think so you don't think i mean he's a dream boat for all the girls they go crazy over him any young guy can put on a few pounds in the weight room
SPEAKER 06 :
I think maybe in 20 years he can play that role. 20 years? You want him to start when he's 50? Well, when he's 50, he'll look 35, and then I think that'll be appropriate.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, we want 007, not 77. I'm trying to get something a little more youthful, somebody who can actually play for a long time. I guess I'm not selling well, am I?
SPEAKER 06 :
He's a great actor. He's a great actor. I think he's too similar to Tom Holland. I think they fill the same niche.
SPEAKER 07 :
But he's taller, and he's cooler than Tom Holland. He's cooler.
SPEAKER 06 :
He's cooler. He is taller, but he's not manlier.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm still in for, I don't know, I can't think of any young male actor that's coming up other than those two.
SPEAKER 06 :
Charlie Grimes is the next James Bond.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, he turned it down.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think they gave... There was a page.
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Charlie's ankles.
SPEAKER 07 :
He said, my ankles. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think they were... I saw something at some point once they were done with Craig that they would switch over to Idris Elba, but he's also 50, so... Ah, go with Abe Black, James Bond. He's English, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
There are several who would be cool. And Idris would have been very cool, but he's too old.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he's already too old.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry, man. Jamie Foxx could do well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Too old.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. come on we gotta go what what is with you and the octogenarians that you want that you want to be james bond i think james bond are you saying you look really cool with a cane i think he's got you gotta go for like like the silver fox a little salt and pepper in the hair kind of look i feel like that's very what about a daniel radcliffe daniel five one out there
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Harry Potter.
SPEAKER 07 :
Getting back to the Shire. No, that's not actually going to work. Okay. So we disagree on that. Personally, I don't think any of them are going to be. It can't. No, it can't be Tom Holland. I'm sorry. He's a little shrimp. I mean, that's why he makes such a good Spider-Man. That boyish face. The tiny physique. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Aaron Taylor Johnson is my pick.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Young, British, cool, kind of... That one will work. Kind of a badass, so, I mean... That one will work. I could see it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. That one I'm going to give you, and one second here. Do we have someone chiming in? Is this John and Cheyenne? Yeah, hey.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, John. What do you got for us?
SPEAKER 03 :
The guy, I can't remember his name. I'm drawing a blank that was in... played Elton John in the Elton John movies. Well, he's pretty short, too. What is this? It's hard to tell, but what about the other guy, Colin? Colin Firth? Is he too old now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, he's too old. Colin Farrell's too old. Colin Firth is too old. All the Collins are too old. Nobody's naming their kid Colin anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they're all too old?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, unless they're a girl. I mean, it's a whole different age, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
How about we reverse it? Since they keep getting an American, an Englishman to play Superman, how about we get an American to play Bond?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Chalamet is French, I believe. So at least I was going with that. So I was going off the island.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think John was talking about Taron Egerton.
SPEAKER 07 :
Edgerton.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Kingsman as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Edgerton, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's not bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I really like him, but he, again, it really worked for him to, what was it, Eggsy? Was that the role he played? Yeah. But that worked better, once again, because he was short. It kind of worked for the role because he was a student, you know. I don't know. I want somebody... Look, Sean Connery, Pierce Brosnan, these guys were tall, okay? We just did a guy who was, I think, the lowest we can go. Was he 5'9"? Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Terrence 5'9", as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't want to do it again. I want somebody who's 8'.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Eight feet tall. I want Michael Bay's Optimus Prime, the robot, to play GameCon. Oh, that would be great. He can transform into a truck. I mean, all the gadgets are right there. Think about it. Noodle that one. Shia LaBeouf is in it.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, what's those British cars that they always drive?
SPEAKER 03 :
Austin Martin.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and Aston Martin. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's right there.
SPEAKER 07 :
He could become his own Aston Martin.
SPEAKER 06 :
If they end up using that, I'll send them a bill.
SPEAKER 07 :
These are great ideas. These are going to sell.
SPEAKER 05 :
Aaron Taylor Johnson's 511.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm going to go with him.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he's built, too. One other comment real quick. Go ahead. The reason they didn't go to Pierce Brosnan sooner is that NBC wouldn't let him do it because of his Remington Steel contract. I know. I know. And it really bugged a lot of people. Yeah, because he would have had the Timothy Dalton movies would have been his in addition to the ones he did. And it would have gave him what, like seven movie run or something?
SPEAKER 07 :
You think so? I think so because he was so... You know who should have done it when he was young and they could fake that he had hair? Jason Statham. Would he have been great?
SPEAKER 03 :
I love him.
SPEAKER 07 :
He would have been good. He would have been so cool.
SPEAKER 03 :
Andy, I'll talk to you at 4.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, John, I'll talk to you at 4. You take care. Okay. And one other thing really quick here, and then we're going to take a break because I've got a couple of movies coming up, but I want to take a little time with this. Okay. Once again, Elio, the producers are whining about Elio, saying that it's because we did an original story. No, that's not why nobody's going to Elio. Okay. I'm going to just put it to you guys. I put it to John. I'm going to put it to you guys. What if next summer Pixar came out with a movie that was masculine? I'm not talking toxic masculine, okay? I'm just talking masculine. Like, Cars was masculine, you know what I mean? Toy Story actually had a masculine feel to it. You could be masculine, you could be feminine. It celebrated both genders equally. It was just fun because Elio had literally no masculinity whatsoever in the movie. The director was gay. I don't know if that played into it or not. Definitely. Maybe it played into it. He didn't write it, though, so who knows? But this was, you just put out a movie that toxic masculinity was the villain. There was no masculinity whatsoever in the entire movie. And by the way, the last several Pixars have had no masculinity or virtually none. What if they turned that around and stopped hating men and made a movie, a good one? What do you think? Would it sell?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think it would sell more than Elio or whatever it's called. ELO.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because it wasn't that bad of a movie. It was an average movie, but it bombed. It had the worst start out ever for a Pixar. What do you think, Luke? I just think they've gone way too one way.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think the biggest issue isn't masculine or feminine. It's just, it's saying nothing. It's all just like studio corporate slop. It's like there is no intent. There's no message. There's no artistry behind it. It is movies designed in a boardroom to hit market points.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they had a hardcore agenda in this movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but I think, agenda or not, it's an agenda built by... the market, right? Where it's like, here are points on our Excel sheet that we think will sell well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Then meet me halfway. Cause I think it was an agenda built on their view of the market, which is only one side. It's like, so you're, because you're right. They were hitting all the market points, but only on the left.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. There's like, if we do this, people will love it. If we do this, people love it. But there's no like, I don't know. You look at Toy Story, right? Toy Story had a message, right? There's artistry behind there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Beautiful message. Innovative.
SPEAKER 06 :
Exactly. But that wasn't a message built to a market share. That was a message built by someone who had something important to say that they cared about. And this is just, it's just studio corporate slop. It's just, here's all the stuff that we think will sell well with a certain audience and we'll throw it in there for, you know, points.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think they've got to let guys back in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I think everything you just said is true as well. Basically, quit reeling off corporate points and selling points and make an actual story, but also bring the guys back in because, hey, guess what? We're not the evil ones. Sound good? Do we agree?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Have we fixed Pixar?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think so. Maybe.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Peth filling in for John Rush. Along with Tanner Cole.
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Man.
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And Luke Cash.
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Man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Luke. Yeah. It's that time again. I got a question for you.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is? Are you ready for a movie? Yes! I'm always ready!
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, you might actually like this movie. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, it's time for another post-apocalyptic horror film in 40 Acres.
SPEAKER 03 :
How to kill all mosquitoes in the area in just minutes.
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Now, that was an ad, but there's a post-apocalyptic horror to it. Do you feel that too? Because in a post-apocalyptic world, we're going to have mosquitoes everywhere.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you think? For a brief second, I thought it was like a really artfully done introduction to a movie trailer where it'll start with an ad and zoom out to something. I don't know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Somebody's screaming, oh, no, the mosquitoes. And you're in Japan, and you see thousands of people running from one side of the screen to the other to get away from the kaiju. What do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
A little Scooby-Doo style move through the doorways.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, exactly. AI made a killer mosquito, and that's the end of the world.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what? You know what? Pixar, I'm here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, it would be a love story. Okay, I would make it and a musical at the same time.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do like a... It's like the Bee movie, but with a mosquito in it. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let's get back to 40 Acres.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know I've been hard on y'all. It takes hard work to survive. I've got the 24 to Freeman Live. You copy? Ain't nobody pushing the seed through the soil, is there? No, ma'am. There's nobody else out there like us. Freeman One, do you copy? We don't need nothing and nobody. Reload. Work now. Yes, come on. Augusta 24, Freeman One, do you copy? Afternoon, Augusta.
SPEAKER 10 :
You've heard about the attack by now?
SPEAKER 04 :
Thought your Union army was going to come and take care of it.
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They're dead.
SPEAKER 1 :
All of them.
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We could have left. People forget what animals were like.
SPEAKER 04 :
What matters now is how we react. Shoot first. Don't ask questions. We ain't waiting on no revenge. They gonna end up dead anyway. Stop right there! Need help? Please! All we need is right here. You don't want us to trust anyone because you can't trust anyone else. We don't need nothing and nobody. Get back! Please! Please! Freeman 1 to Augusta 24, do you copy? We found your damn animals.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now pick up. All right, Luke, does that sound scarier than mosquitoes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, here we go. We've got to race through this because we've got a couple to do quick. In the future, the world has been decimated by a fungal pandemic. Kind of killed everything. Then you had civil war and then a famine. Now those remaining must focus on one thing. What to eat. That makes sense, right? Thus, mankind has returned to an agrarian age where good farmland is like gold. Not only must farmers work tirelessly to bring in the crops, but they must constantly fend off attackers trying to get in and steal from them. Well, this brings us to the Freeman family. Led by Mother Haley, she's played by Danielle Deadweiler. I don't know if you know her, but she's a wonderful actress. Anyway, they are well-armed and skilled in both farming and killing to live. Another pronounced aspect of this family is their incredible work ethic. As Haley reminds them, we work now, we rest when we're dead. That's life for the Freemans. Well, naturally, this can be a bit much for the kids, right? But they manage. Problem is, they're totally isolated except for radio contact with surrounding farms. They don't know anyone. But now, one by one, these farms are going silent. Someone is taking them out. Remember how I said the focus was one thing, what to eat? Okay, well, it turns out there's something else beyond corn crops. What if some people started eating people? Uh-oh.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yum.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that would be bad. Delicious. Yeah, delicious. It appears there are a large number of cannibals moving through the area, descending on farmers and feeding on them. What was always a war for survival is now a horrifying battle against the worst mankind can become. So here we have the Freemans no longer just fighting for their farm, but for their lives. These aren't zombies they're facing, since zombies don't use guns. These are guys coming with guns, right? They're hunting them. And since the Freemans are so isolated, they have no idea who to trust. And that is the story of 40 Acres. What do you think?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think it sounds pretty interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it does. Well, what works in 40 Acres? First of all, in the midst of horror, this film conveys a hopeful sentiment about family. Very nice sentiment. I liked it. There is some superb acting, especially from Deadweiler. She's a force. And she always is, any movie she's in. You probably don't know her. You kind of have to be a movie geek like me, but trust me, she's good. Kateem O'Connor, he's a young guy. He shines as her son, Emmanuel, while Michael Greyeyes, I don't know if you know him, he's gritty as this older guy, Galen. And he's an Indian actor, and he's always been very good. There's also a good beginning with Kills in a Cornfield, and there's a good ending. All right. What doesn't work in 40 acres? Unfortunately, everything else. All right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 07 :
I hate to say it. Well, it's terribly slow. It takes three quarters of the film before the villains show up. I'm not kidding. Let me say that again. It takes three quarters of the film before the villains show up. It's far too slow in the horror buildup. We always talk about horror, right? Horror movies, it is such a directing balance. You've got to make sure that you build up enough for the horror to make it scary enough, but not too much to lose interest. Guys, I was nodding off. I know I'm an old man, but really, I shouldn't be just nodding off there while I'm watching a horror film. This thing was plodding until the last quarter. Next, I hate to say this, this is truly the most racist film I've seen in many years. This film is to BLM what Barbie was to radical feminism. It is. Virtually all the cannibals are white. White people are either evil, desperate, incompetent, or flat-out helpless in this movie, while black and indigenous people are all good, well-meaning, courageous, and fantastic warriors. No. We have to always ask ourselves this question, Tanner. What if it were the opposite?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so what if... People would actually have heard of this movie. Yes, yes, exactly, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
What if it were black and Indian people who were evil, desperate, incompetent, and flat-out helpless, you know, while the white people were all good, well-meaning, courageous, and fantastic warriors, but they were being eaten by these evil black and indigenous people? their studio would be firebombed, right? I mean, the protests would be everywhere. By the way, you're right. People would actually have heard about 40 Acres because no one's heard of it because they have no budget pushing this movie, which surprises me. I've actually been looking forward to this movie for about six months. But unbelievable. The depiction of the races was what it had to be the most slanted I've seen maybe in five years. I don't know. I've seen so many hundreds of movies. I lose track, but it was unbelievable. Incredibly bigoted. The worst part, though, of this movie had nothing to do with race. It was the pace. Under two hours, and it felt like three hours. The middle portion, I love the opening scene. Now, once again, they're having to kill a bunch of white folk coming on their land because the white folk are all coming to get them or whatever. But at least it was a really cool scene. Very excellent action. I liked it. I liked the cornfield scene. And I liked the ending. The middle was slow as could be, and it wasted some really good performances. The guy who plays her son is just terrific. Katim O'Connor, get used to him. I want to see him in more stuff. Because he wasn't just a tough kid. He had a lot of feeling. He was very torn on what he had to do, you know, killing. It was very hard for him just to go out and kill. I know he's, gee, I'm doing it for the family, but really?
SPEAKER 08 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I was very impressed. Okay. And finally, here's a smaller thing. They're driving their vehicles around, right, in this post-apocalyptic world. Where do they get the gas? There are no gas stations. There's nothing. Okay. They don't go anywhere. I mean, they don't go far. So where are they getting the gas? Where are they fueling up if they have no contact with the surrounding world?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a great question.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Sorry, but for me, you know, and they're rationing bullets and so forth. I'm thinking, well, that's probably pretty wise. Where are you getting them at all? Yeah. I suppose maybe. Well, they did have an armory, which is very cool. Tons of cool guns. And so I guess they just had she was ex-military. So I guess they just still had it. But eventually that's going to run out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Well, I mean, fire a couple of rounds and.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, pretty quick. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
It reminds me of a movie we talked about earlier this year, like A Black Family in the Woods, post-apocalyptic. Right. I can't remember what it was.
SPEAKER 07 :
That one was a little better. It was still slow, but it was a little bit better. This one was very slow. Although, I will say, when the bad guys are closing in on the farm, then it picks up. But that's toward the end, right? You're talking the last quarter. The last quarter of this movie, in my opinion, was at least four-star. Okay. Okay, but that's a quarter of a film.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Let's get a battle at some point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It took way too long. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes gave 40 acres. What do you think?
SPEAKER 1 :
86.
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86.
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What do you guess? 89.
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88. My gosh, you guys are good. You guys are like really, really good.
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We know the critics.
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Right. The critics love that kind of agenda. And as I always say, I separate out the quality from the political, from the more religious. Now I'm going to do it. Quality, I'm going to give this one and a half stars.
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Oof.
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Yeah, it's pretty bad. And the reason I'm giving it... I know people are thinking, well, if it's that boring, why do you give it any? I give it that much because of the opening and ending were strong. Okay. Okay, when they do have war, when they do have people invading. And also because of the acting ability of a couple of characters. I thought it was very strong, very good. Some others were just kind of there. Okay. But... No, folks, you can't make a movie setting aside all the agenda. I don't care. Okay, the fact is you can't make a movie this boring and slow and make me want to see it. There's no way I would see it again, even if it had no agenda whatsoever. No way. And so when I think of a movie that there's absolutely no way I'd see it again, I can't give it a high grade. Fair enough? Yeah, fair enough. Okay, political, zero, obviously. I mean, it was offensive. It was... Outright offensive. By the way, I was the only white guy in the audience.
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What's the movie I was talking about?
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That's okay. I go to a lot of movies like that. I have fun, but it was just... What's the movie I was talking about, Never Let Go?
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Yes. Okay.
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Yeah, which, by the way, was from a director I really like, but that one was better than this. Okay. More Religious 3. It had some downsides to it, but also a nice family message. I like that. So, More Religious, I'm giving it a 3. Do I recommend going to 40 Acres? Yes, if you are into BLM. And by the way, I'm not kidding when I say that. There are people who listen to us from the other political side. I'll just say it. If you're into BLM, then you will like the rage and hate and the depictions of people in this movie. You'll think it's really cool. Okay? Anyone else, you're going to find this offensive and, oh, by the way, boring. So, no, I don't recommend going to 40 acres. It's not worth it. Unfortunate. Yeah. But guess what? We've got another movie coming up, and it's a huge sequel. We'll do that next. First up is Veteran Windows and Doors. Shop around, but don't sign anything until you've met with Dave from Veteran. For the best quotes and better quality, call Veteran at 303-529-0720.
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The best export we have is common sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Peth filling in for John Rush, along with Luke Cash and Tanner Kolb.
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And Tanner!
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What's up? Got a question for you. Yeah, what's going on? We've known each other a while, you know, so can we get a little... 40 years. Yeah, about 40 years, and you're only, what, 26? Yeah. I knew you before you were born. It was... I got great parents. You were a child of prophecy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I got a question for you. Are you ready for a movie?
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I'm ready for a movie.
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Okay. Well, you know, Tanner, it's yet another reboot for the lizards who eat people in Jurassic World Rebirth.
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Dr. Henry Loomis, this is Zora Bennett. I'm a mission specialist. Sorry, what mission? This would be a medical breakthrough that could save countless lives. It comes from the largest dinosaurs on the planet. Whoa. Fortunately for us, all these species exist in one isolated place. Can you be ready tomorrow?
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I can guarantee your safety. I mean, more or less. More or less?
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He's your guy?
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We're the best at moving things and people in and out of places they shouldn't be.
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We look towards Barbados, avoid government patrol, but there aren't that many anymore.
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Why's that?
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No one's dumb enough to go where we're going.
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This island was the research facility for the original Jurassic Park.
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We need DNA from the three biggest dinosaurs. Do we have to get a sample from an egg? I suppose we could try and get it from the parent, but they're a flying carnival the size of an F-16.
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Maybe we should make it quick.
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These dinosaurs were too dangerous for the original park.
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Freezos say they're raptors. They're raptors.
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The worst of the worst were left here.
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Ooh, scary, right? Ooh. I was always scared by these movies. Are you guys or no?
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I remember when I was, because I had watched them when I was younger, I remember being pretty scared. They were, you know, they're like filmed like horror movies.
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Yeah, the first one terrified me.
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Yeah, dark raining. They are kind of trapped in these cars and then dinosaur comes back. It's pretty scary, dude. That got me.
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Although everybody laughed when the lawyer got eaten. Okay, here we go. It's been a few years since the dinosaurs spread across the earth, but guess what? Many are dying again. It seems today's Earth is generally inhospitable to the creatures, except in very tropical regions. That makes sense, right? And so we see them dying off in places like New York. Well, Scarlett Johansson, she stars as covert ops specialist Zora Bennett. After many missions, she's grown weary of danger for hire, but now a scientist has a plan to use dinosaur DNA for curing cancer. Oh, sure. That'll end well.
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It always does.
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Oh, yes. Well, along with paleontologist Harry Loomis, played by Jonathan Bailey, and mercenary Duncan Kincaid, played by Mahershala Ali, who is always good, Zora leads an expedition to the Caribbean island that is one of the last places that dinos thrive. It's one of the only places left. Naturally, there's danger everywhere. The mission? A mega-rich pharmaceutical company. Have you noticed how these are now the villains in many films? Pharmaceutical companies.
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Well, they have been for decades. They are real-life villains, so it's like an easy parallel.
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It's been cranked up.
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This is our new dinosaur. Pfizer.
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Pfizer. I know. The Pfizer pod. I mean, they're terrible. Well, anyway, they want to get DNA samples from three specific dinosaurs. These dinos must be living, which makes the venture incredibly risky. And you can't just go up and say, hey, can I have a sample?
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Right.
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Just go in the bathroom.
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Sign this release form real quick.
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Yeah, it doesn't quite go that well. But the payoff is massive. Well, the dinos aren't making it easy and they attack from land, sea, and air. Plenty of people become dino food, of course, while our core characters must find ways to survive. But can they survive? This place is just terrifying and hungry T-Rex wants lunch. Mmm, delicious. What do you think, Tanner?
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I love Scarlett Johansson, but I don't have a lot of hope for this one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I like her. She's got good personality.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah.
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All right, here we go. First of all, what works in Jurassic World Rebirth? Well, the CGI blending with live action is as good as ever. Very impressive. Very impressive what they do. You can always tell they put the money into it and the time. Second, there are plenty of creative kills and tense moments. Some very good ones. You got one along a cliff. You got one when they're in a boat going down, right, going out at sea. And they've got the sea ones all over the place. Very cool. Very well done. I just thought that they got more creative with the types of kills and their directions that the dinosaurs came from in this movie. That was neat. Joe Hanson, she's a pure movie star offering the big screen gravitas we need from our heroine. And she does a good job with it. In fact, each of the characters has played pretty well. They really are. You've got, of course, the guy from the pharmaceutical company is obviously a jerk. I mean, you know, they have to do that every time. everybody is quite good the script is probably the best in recent years for the franchise i would say well no no you know what i'm gonna back off on that i'm gonna take i'm gonna take some shots at the script here in a moment i think i was too nice let me let me drop that But they have a family in this that is a rather touching family that they have, and they're trying to survive as well. They've been kind of shipwrecked out there by the dinosaurs, and they're trying to survive as well. So pretty good. Okay. And, of course, the action scenes are just very high action. These things are everywhere. Now, what doesn't work in Jurassic World Rebirth? Okay. It feels like a rehash. Okay. Very, very predictable. This guy's going to die. You just know it. That guy too. It's like watching a group of teens entering a cabin in a slasher flick.
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Yeah.
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Don't go in there. It's so formulaic.
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I'm hearing just the trailer. It sounded almost exactly like Kong Skull Island. Yeah, I know. You remember that from back in the day.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I know. It totally does.
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It's the same setup, same plot, same situation and interesting.
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Yeah. I mean, it was just crazy what it was like. And it was so predictable. I didn't know what to do with it. The characters have interest, but they fall short of the Goldblum gang from the original. They're not nearly as good. And I'll get to why in a moment. And I don't know how many times they can replay the old greedy companies with evil scientists do something really stupid theme. I mean, really? You've beat that to death.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Guys, the horse, it's not just dead. It's been buried for years.
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And it's children.
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Yeah. It's just like, stop. But here was the biggest thing. Scarlett Johansson is actually a very good comedic actress. I don't know if you know this. She can turn a line. She can turn a phrase. Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
She was fantastic in the moon landing movie. I thought that was the best she's ever done.
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Yeah, well, she can do it. Jonathan Bailey can do it. Maher Shali Ali can do it. And some of the others can do it. Here's what got me. I was watching the movie. There were so many times... when they had a perfect opportunity for a humorous moment. All they had to do was plug in a funny line. I was writing the lines in my head as I was watching it. I was like, oh, you should have said this then. Oh, you should have said that then. It would have been really funny. Oh, man, you could have put this in there. This movie was not very funny at all. It had a little bit of humor. It could have had so much. And so while I was watching this movie, I was just seeing wasted potential, wasted potential, wasted potential. And that is not what you want for a summer blockbuster. I don't think this thing is going to do that well. I mean, obviously, it's going to have a big week one. It's July 4th. You know, it's the big July 4th movie. It's certainly not going to be taken down by 40 acres. Okay, it just isn't. But I think they fell short. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave this movie 52%. They were not impressed either. Well, once again, you're watching pure formula. It was just pure formula. A lot of impressive stuff. Some impressive moments. But pure formula. I think you had an underused cast. Really. Scarlett Johansson can fly a lot higher, guys. You can do more with her and... To me, it seemed like she was kind of mailing it in because she didn't have much to work with.
SPEAKER 05 :
They focused a little too much on the CGI and not the actual, you know, content of the movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. And Luke, you've seen movies where you've known a lot of great actors.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah.
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And you've seen them in a movie where the script, let's face it, is not really doing much with it. And you can just see the actor kind of mail it in.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Where's my check? And I was kind of seeing that with her. A couple others were trying, but it just wasn't good.
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52%.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, quality, I'm going to go right down the middle, two and a half stars. This is not a bad movie. I certainly wasn't bored. I mean, there were a lot of scary moments, right? A fair amount of action. And the formula... such that it is, at least it works, right? Political, I'm going to go two stars. Why? Because I'm just sick of beating up on big companies and this. They had a real strong message about We shouldn't, pharmaceutical companies shouldn't get rich. They should just, there shouldn't be any patents. Everybody should be able to sell everything. And I'm just kind of like, I'm sorry, guys, the free market don't work that way. Without the profit motive, none of this happens, okay? More religious, three. There was nothing in it objectionable at all. It was fine. Do I recommend going to Jurassic World Rebirth? You know, sure. Why not? It's not bad. It feels like a summer blockbuster. It's a little boring, but it's got plenty of tension, plenty of eating, okay? And, you know, not a great script, but that's okay. You'll get through it. And, by the way, there's going to be a sequel coming after it, so it'll set you up. What do you think? Tanner, you look bored.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I'm not going to see it.
SPEAKER 07 :
You're not going to see it. It's not doing it for you. Luke, I know it's not an art film.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I'll just go watch the original. What?
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What if they had all the dinosaurs wearing turtlenecks? Would you go?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd consider that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Would that be arty enough?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush once again, along with Tanner Cole and Luke Cash. Man. All right, guys, let's do yesterday's impossible question. Actually, on Monday, I couldn't get to it.
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Okay.
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We were a little too filled, but here we go. We're going to do Mondays today because there was none for today. Perfect. Now you know. Okay. What does the 1967 Outer Space Treaty forbid?
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What year?
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1967.
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1967. What is it? Forbid?
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Yes. I don't know. I'm going to give it. No one can own the moon.
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I guess that makes sense, huh?
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Yeah. Well, Elon is very upset. Just so you know, so is Bill Gates.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, luckily, Elon Musk didn't sign that treaty.
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Exactly. Yeah, so he's not bound by it.
SPEAKER 06 :
He can do whatever he wants.
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Yeah, go by the moon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just like how I never signed the Geneva Convention.
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Exactly. So you don't have to follow that at all.
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Anything happens.
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You have a lot of people captured in your basement, don't you? Yeah, I thought so. It also says you can't colonize the sun, but nobody really cared much about that. Okay. Name the world's, this is today's impossible question, name the world's largest island nation.
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Greenland? Australia? Island nation? Australia.
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Greenland? Australia? I would have thought it's one of those. It is not. It's not Australia? Yeah, and I'm not going to give the answer because it's going to be on the next show that they're going to give the answer. Believe it or not, this really surprised me. Okay. Right, because I would have gone right to Greenland or Australia. Yes. Or what about Antarctica?
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That's a continent, right? Not an island. I don't know what it is. I mean, no one really lives there.
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Nobody cares about Antarctica.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's where they have the weather machines. Dude, they got penguins.
SPEAKER 07 :
I hear that's where Trump is going to be keeping all the deportees. It's going to be Antarctica. Okay, really quick here. In the next hour, what are we going to be doing? What is our topic? Do some sitcoms. Yeah, best TV sitcoms. Do you guys like TV sitcoms? You don't seem to be the types.
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When we were younger, definitely, because they were more prevalent and better.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, there were some back on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon, but never watched any of the classics, really.
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You know one that I like, which I won't say because it'll get me banned from TV, but Teen Titans Go.
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Get out of here. It's one of the stupidest shows. Get out of here. I like it. It's funny.
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Okay. Well, one thing I love about TV sitcoms is that's what you binge watch at night a lot of times. Fair enough. Yes, and people still do it today. Okay, folks, that is it for our number one. In our two, once again, we're going to be doing best sitcoms. Give us a call at 303-477-5600 if you want to tell us your favorite sitcom. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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Thank you.
It’s sitcom showdown time on Rush to Reason! Guest host Andy Pate is joined by Luke Cash and Tanner Cole for a rapid-fire, hilarious ranking of the greatest sitcoms ever made. From black-and-white classics like I Love Lucy and The Honeymooners to modern hits like The Office, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, and Tires, no era or style is off-limits. The guys debate iconic characters, drop their favorite scenes, and share personal sitcom memories—including a few guilty Nickelodeon and Disney Channel pleasures. A fun, fast-paced celebration of television's funniest shows. Tune in, reminisce, and maybe find a new sitcom to binge!
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This is Rush to Reason.
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Actually, it's Andy Pate. Party of choice. And welcome to our number two here on Rush to Reason. I'm Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Luke Cash and Tanner Cole. That was very manly. You know what? Usually you can't keep up with Luke. But, I mean, none of us can.
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You know, you're pulling your weight now.
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Yeah, you're doing all right.
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We raised him well, didn't we?
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I think so.
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Yeah, I think so. Okay, this hour we are going to be doing favorite sitcoms. Do you watch a lot of sitcoms? I do.
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I don't. I don't. I watched them when I was younger, so I got a lot of cartoon sitcoms or Nickelodeon sitcoms from when I was 10.
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Nickelodeon sitcoms?
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Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, they had some sitcoms, yeah. That's kind of all it was for young teens and teenagers.
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See, all I know is all the Nickelodeon and Disney girls are all messed up. well yeah i mean they're on crack they are you know protesting with their heads shaved all i did was watch the show and i turned out all right it's not my fault yeah then you did okay after that okay well let's jump right in and the most long running what's the longest running sitcom ever
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Are live action or including cartoons? It'd have to be like The Simpsons.
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It is The Simpsons. I do believe. Isn't it, Charlie? Yeah. And I'm going to go to The Simpsons right now. And I've played this before, but I've got to play it because Luke is here.
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Oh, thank you.
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Homer buys a gun. Here we go.
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I'd like to buy your deadliest gun, please. Aisle 6, next to the sympathy cards.
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Hmm.
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Whoa, careful there, Annie Oakley. I don't have to be careful. I got a gun. Well, you'll probably want the accessory kit. Holster. Oh, yeah. Bandolier. Baby. Silencer. Loudener. Speed cocker. Ooh, I like the sound of that. And this is for shooting down police helicopters. Oh, I don't need anything like that. Yet. Just give me my gun. Sorry, the law requires a five-day waiting period. We've got to run a background check. Five days? But I'm mad now. I'd kill you if I had my gun. Yeah, well, you don't.
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it's so good i tell you oh my gosh that show when it first came out it was just shocking it was on fox and it kind of that was a show that almost made the fox network It just launched it. What do you think?
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I believe it. Luke, you're up. Speaking of believing it, would you believe if I told you I've never seen a single episode of The Simpsons? Are you serious? I've seen clips in parts and pieces, but never a single episode start to finish. Why?
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I'm close to that. I've seen a million clips.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, guys, I understand. It's old stuff. It's before your time. Okay, I'm just going to clue you in. There's this thing called reruns.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hurons? Yes. Ew, disgusting. Want something old? Yes. Never. Old stuff is classic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Tell me the new stuff. So basically every show you guys mention, I will never have heard.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. Well, probably. Okay. Like 50%. All right. I've got some classics on here. I've just seen some of the good ones.
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I just want to know some of the shaved head protester, you know, meth freak Nickelodeon kids.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Well, I'll go to Nickelodeon first, and this one's for you, Tanner. Okay. This one goes out to you. Big Time Rush. Oh, dang it. I wanted that one.
SPEAKER 07 :
I knew you wanted it. You got to explain it to the old guy.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was not that great, but it was kind of funny. And being like 12, 13, I think, when it came out, it's just this group of four guys in a band, and they're kind of all idiots. But they run around in this stupid lifestyle kind of... Yeah, it's very like...
SPEAKER 08 :
They're starting a boy band, and if any 13-year-old kid has ever had the fantasy of, like, I want to be a music star, it was that. And it was just all them getting up to wacky hijinks. You know what? Believe it or not, saw Big Time Rush live, Del Mar Fair. Like 2012 or something like that. They had a big hit. I can't remember what it was.
SPEAKER 07 :
First of all, I'm just adjusting to Luke saying the words boy band. Yeah. Okay. That doesn't seem you.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it wasn't. It was my brother Jake's thing at the time. Was it really?
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought boy bands were girls things.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, if you wanted to be a rock star, if you wanted to drive fancy cars and have cool clothes and do all that fun stuff, same.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was actually pretty funny, if I remember right.
SPEAKER 08 :
They had some pretty highbrow jokes about the industry snuck in there every now and then.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, you've changed my mind. I think maybe me, John, and Charlie, we could try this. I don't think you should.
SPEAKER 08 :
You don't think so? No. No, no, I think we're good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, we won't go down that road. Okay, what was it again?
SPEAKER 08 :
Big Time Rush. Big Time Rush. Big Time Rush. Nickelodeon, shout out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, now that he's taken that, Tanner, do you have any left? Or will you be silent for the rest of the hour?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, I got a million. But I'm going to go with one of my more favorites as a teenager. Parks and Recreation. Oh.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, that was a fun one.
SPEAKER 09 :
So funny. Chris Pratt was great in it. The Indian actor as well was hilarious.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you actually, is that Kamal Nanjiani? I think so.
SPEAKER 09 :
He got canceled, I believe, is the one who got in trouble. But he was so funny in the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
I love Kamal Nanjiani. He kills me. He really does. Did you ever see Stuber, the movie?
SPEAKER 09 :
Almost. You've told me I watch it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, he's in it with Dave Bautista.
SPEAKER 09 :
That sounds funny.
SPEAKER 07 :
Folks, if you've not seen Stuber, I'm going to tell you right now, not a great movie, but I had fun. It's stupid fun. Very much stupid fun. It's worth watching.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, it was Aziz Ansari. Sorry.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, Aziz Ansari. I like him.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's so funny.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, he's funny. Okay, up next is John and Cheyenne. John, do you have any sitcoms?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, I got two favorites, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
I could watch them. To this day, I'll watch them if I can find them on. And the first one is, of course, the legendary Jackie Gleason in The Honeymoors. Him and Art Carney just... You know, the jokes never got old.
SPEAKER 07 :
They didn't... And, I mean, they were so classic that you had shows copying them for decades afterward.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the Flintstones, they were going to get sued because they said the Flintstones copied the Honeymooners.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did you ever see the episode on Moonlighting where they did the Honeymooners?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. Yes. It was pretty funny in itself.
SPEAKER 07 :
What blew my mind is because on The Honeymooners, Bruce Willis was the funny one always, right? And what's her name? I forget the name of the actress on The Honeymooners. Sybil Shepard. Sybil Shepard. Okay. But Sybil Shepard was deadpan perfect in her delivery of The Honeymooners. She was perfect. She was right on. It blew my mind.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Audrey Meadows... had the comedic timing against gleason yeah onto his sign yeah i mean she was a straight man ultimate straight man ultimate straight man she set him up and he laid it down it was perfect oh and you know do you ever see that meme which one that's out there there's a meme of two astronauts and they're looking down at a dead woman in 50s clothes and they go oh my god it's alice crammed it
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I'm afraid I missed that meme. Sorry, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's a pretty funny one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, what's another sitcom?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my other favorite is The Odd Couple.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yes! Jack Klugman, Tony Randall.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh. And what's funny is if you go back and watch the movie version of it, because it was a Neil Simon play. Yeah, it was. And the movie version of it is very funny.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon. Yeah, Walter Matthau, Jack Lemmon.
SPEAKER 10 :
But here's the funniest thing. I read this in a book. In the original Broadway version of that, it was Art Carney and Walter Matthau in the Broadway version. And Art Carney played the Oscar role.
SPEAKER 07 :
Really? Walter Matthau played the neat freak? Yes. You've got to be kidding me.
SPEAKER 10 :
On the Broadway version of it. And that was late 50s, early 60s. But, you know, they don't... Here's the thing. If you watch a sitcom today, they make their jokes off of a lot of sexual innuendo. Sure. And a lot of the old sitcoms, they were funny without the innuendo. You know what I mean? Right. Because they were funny. Now they're going for cheap laughs through sexual innuendo. So there's not many good ones. The other one I always enjoyed, and I'm probably going to steal it from somebody newer, is Big Bang Theory.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think Big Bang Theory is pretty funny. What do you think, Luke?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, it's very funny. I've seen a couple clips, and I remember enjoying some time with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I got a friend in Kansas City. His name is Andrew. We used to manage movie theaters together, and that was his show. I mean, oh, yeah, he had to see Big Bang Theory. He talked about it all the time. There were two things in the world that mattered to Andrew Armstrong. One, Star Trek. And I still know him today. I know him online. He builds little models of the Enterprise. And all the phasers and everything. Oh, yeah, but he just loves it. It's really cool. He gets into it. But also, he loved the Bing Bang Theory. He just loved it.
SPEAKER 08 :
People were obsessed with it for a long time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, it's funny. And if you look at the... Yeah. Well, I won't steal anymore. There's probably other people going to call in. So you guys have a great weekend. Enjoy your Independence Day, Andy, guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
Happy Independence Day, John. You take care. Nah, he used them all. I'm out. What do you think? Do you got any?
SPEAKER 09 :
Never seen the Big Bang Theory because I'm not a nerd.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it was pretty funny.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think maybe you are.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm going to go next. Now, this one is my favorite sitcom probably of all time, and it is The Family Guy. Okay. And here he is. He's got a salesman at the door.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hello, sir. Enough with the foreplay, Shayla. What are you selling? Well, I was going to try to sell you some handsome cream, but I can see you already bought out the store. Go on. So perhaps you'd be interested in something every homeowner cannot be without. Volcano insurance. Go on. According to my uncle, who's a real whiz with volcanoes, a volcano is coming this way. I, too, have an uncle.
SPEAKER 11 :
Come in. How much is this volcano insurance? I don't know. Let's say $200.
SPEAKER 1 :
$200?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's more than I spent on all that handsome cream. I don't have that kind of money. What about that jar of money? No way, that's Lois' rainy day fund. Ah, come on. It never rains in Rhode Island?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, yeah, but I'm pretty sure we've never had a volcano either. Well, don't you think we're overdue for one? Touché, salesman.
SPEAKER 07 :
Peter Griffin. I don't know if there's ever been a dumber character.
SPEAKER 08 :
Also.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that's what sitcoms are about. You always have to have an idiot. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was just going to say, also, that is a very accurate representation of insurance sales.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 08 :
Believe it or not.
SPEAKER 07 :
Only it's volcano sales.
SPEAKER 08 :
Only volcano insurance.
SPEAKER 07 :
Volcano Insurance. Okay. You are up, sir.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll piggyback off of that with another one based right here in Colorado. South Park.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yes. South Park was great. I wonder, do I have anything on that?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's probably hard to find some clips from South Park. It's usually pretty raunchy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. It is. But, you know, I do have, and they never even try to impersonate the voice. No. Okay. And so this one is recent, and it's just Donald Trump going in to be president, and they're walking him through.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, sir. Here are all our military secrets and all classified information. Okay, good. This is the drone program. In there, you can kill anyone on Earth remotely. Here's the keys. Thanks. In here is satellite surveillance where you can monitor anyone's conversation live. Oh, that'll come in handy. Extreme interrogation room in case you ever find interrogation necessary. Oh, hell yeah, it's necessary. Let's do it. And here, of course, is the famous football, where you can order a nuclear attack in four minutes. Love me some football. And finally, in here, is the diplomatic strategy and negotiating room.
SPEAKER 07 :
Anyways. They had a lot of fun. That's pretty good. That show obviously is incredibly disgusting. Yes. But it can be unbelievably funny. It's just well written.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very well written. They are very funny guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
They are. Okay, Luke, you're up. That was you. Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Tanner, you're up. I think this is the best sitcom of all time. The Office, the U.S. version.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a funny show. The Office is a very good one. I love it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Especially Dwight and Steve Carell is amazing.
SPEAKER 07 :
I wanted to put together clips. I did not have time. There's too many. Oh, The Office is crazy. Although, I've got to be honest, a lot of The Office, a lot of the humor on it is visual. You got great lines, but they go so well with what they're doing and their facial expressions make it even better. Steve Carell just kills me.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think my favorite episode is like season two, right when they start getting really good. And he just has like the international day and he's just as racist as possible about every race. And then he gets slapped at me. It was so funny.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that sounds good. Okay, folks, we are talking about best sitcoms ever. We'll be right back with those. Up next is Paul Leuenberger. Paul is now an insurance broker, shopping nine companies to find the best plan for you. Call Paul at 303-662-0789.
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SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLC 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And Luke had to step out. He will be right back. And I'm joined, of course, by Tanner Cole.
SPEAKER 17 :
Man.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Tanner, I'm going to go to, I believe... Quite possibly the best written sitcom ever made. And the reason I say that is because other sitcoms came off it. Two other sitcoms came off it that were also very popular with the same writers. These guys were on fire. And this is Cheers. Did you ever see Cheers?
SPEAKER 09 :
I've heard about it a bunch. Yeah, it's before your time. Definitely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, this is a scene really quick here with Coach, and this is an early season, and Coach is an old guy, and he's got to answer the phone. Here we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Cheers. Yeah. Coach, your friend Walt.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, Walt. Walt. Walt, Walt, my God, it's so good to hear from you. Oh, I'm so glad the operation's over, Walt. Listen, I didn't want to say anything beforehand, Walt, but, you know, I didn't think your chances of going in there were too good. Oh, it's tomorrow?
SPEAKER 20 :
That's the beauty about being a mailman now.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll just leave it there. They had, after him, because Coach is only on one or maybe two seasons, I think it was two seasons, and then they had Woody Harrelson take over for him, and he actually played a character called Woody. And he was just as dumb as Coach. And that's where Woody Harrelson became a big star. Before then, you'd never heard of him. So that was on the show Cheers. If you ever want to get some laughs, watch reruns of Cheers. Wonderfully written. Very, very funny. Great stuff. Okay, Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. Well, let's follow in the footsteps of watching some young people or younger people, you know, get their rise to stardom. Zendaya was in a sitcom show called Shake It Up. I think it was on – I think it was Disney Channel. Disney Channel's Shake It Up is where Zendaya – I remember seeing her there back when I was but a young boy. With Bella Thorne. With Bella Thorne, yep.
SPEAKER 07 :
And Zendaya did not throw her life away. No. She actually went on to just be a star and keep being a star. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Bella Thorne, however, I think fell on some harder times.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's so sad. You know, Disney and Nickelodeon just grind these young girls into nothing. And I don't know what they put them through. I really don't. But the number of them who have gone nuts...
SPEAKER 08 :
It happens enough that maybe there's a pattern there worth looking at.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah. No, I agree. I think there's a pattern where you've got to look at Disney. You've got to look at, I mean, obviously they're sexualizing them because they're attractive young girls, and yet they're very young, right? And that alone can be kind of scary, right? But also, whatever they're doing there, they are cooking them. I'll never forget Lindsay Lohan.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean.
SPEAKER 07 :
Or Britney Spears.
SPEAKER 09 :
We saw what Nickelodeon then came out of the whole documentary. So, I mean, Disney, it seems like they got triple the amount.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, just horrible.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, Tanner, you're up. In my opinion, the best Nickelodeon one from back in the day, Drake and Josh.
SPEAKER 07 :
Drake and Josh. I've never seen this. That's so funny. That was one of those good ones. What's it about?
SPEAKER 09 :
Two stepbrothers. One's really hot, gets all the chicks and dumb. The other one's fat and ugly and doesn't get any chicks. And they're the main characters. Their parents are hilarious. Their dad's like a failed weatherman. It was great. The sister is like conniving and evil, their younger sister.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I like it.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was great. It was a good like brothers show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Like watching two guys try and be brothers and get along. Anyone who had siblings is like, oh, this is very relatable. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you both have brothers?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. I got one. He's got five. I have five younger brothers.
SPEAKER 07 :
You have five younger brothers? Yep. Oh, my gosh. So you had to raise them all.
SPEAKER 08 :
I did. All me, mom and dad. Were they like slave labor?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, did they mow the lawn for you? Did they clean your room? Did they take care of everything? I wish.
SPEAKER 08 :
We were all too close in age. So we were all just like fighting each other, just punching. Oh, okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that explains the violence.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's all right. We're all cool now. We're all best friends now.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know you're deeply into the violence culture. That's true. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Very hyper-violent.
SPEAKER 08 :
Fight club at the Cashman household. Yeah, exactly. You get on the trampoline and you just beat on each other until someone bleeds enough.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's great. That's good to know. It explains a lot. Hey, Tanner, what about your brother?
SPEAKER 09 :
I was five years older, so I couldn't touch him, but he got mad at me quite a bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, did he?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. I was called the teasing king around the house for years.
SPEAKER 07 :
You were horrible to your brother.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, that's what they all say, but they just lost every time they played me.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because you were taller and you always played basketball.
SPEAKER 09 :
Faster, stronger, built to last longer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did you play dodgeball and just throw it at them as hard as you could?
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, I only had two siblings, so it was pretty quick. Knock them off their feet. They'd throw a ball, I'd catch it. I'd throw it at the other one, the game's over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just heartless. Okay, that being said, let's go to probably, I think most people would say this is their number one sitcom, Friends. Here we go.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, anybody know a good tailor? You need some clothes altered? No, no, I'm just looking for a man to draw on me with chalk. Why don't you go see Frankie? My family's been going to him forever. He did my first suit when I was 15. No, wait, 16. No, excuse me, 15. All right, when was 1990? Okay, you have to stop the Q-tip when there's resistance.
SPEAKER 07 :
That, by the way, may he rest in peace.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Brilliant comedian. The guy who played Joey was very funny.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, Joey was great. Matt LaBlanque.
SPEAKER 07 :
Matt LeBlanc was very good. And who played the other guy?
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm spacing all their names. David Schwimmer.
SPEAKER 07 :
He played Ross. Yeah, he played Ross. I'm talking the year.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, Chandler.
SPEAKER 07 :
Chandler.
SPEAKER 09 :
The one who passed. Yeah. I'm blanking.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't know. Guys, I deal with so many actors. The names, they blend together. Everybody is that person and that person and that person. Matthew Perry. Yeah, Friends was a case of having six terrific young talents. I mean, really terrific young talents. And to put all that talent onto one show, I don't know if it had actually been done before. Because usually you had a show where maybe two, maybe three were really funny and really good, but that was about it. But to have six talents like that was just incredible.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was a great show. And all the extra actors they brought in for however many episodes, like Paul Rudd, Bruce Willis. Oh, yeah. Monica's boyfriend at one point. He's a big actor. I'm blanking on his name. Oh, yeah, Tom Selleck was in it for quite a while.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, Tom Selleck.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was great. I mean, so many good actors.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, Luke, you're up. Oh, let's go with some Malcolm in the Middle. Malcolm in the Middle was funny. I have seen a couple episodes of that one. It's one of the few older, in air quotes there, sitcoms that I've seen episodes of. It's pretty good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER 08 :
I enjoy it. One of my favorite pieces about Malcolm in the Middle is when they were doing the casting for Breaking Bad initially, and Bryan Cranston was cast in the role. There was this huge... sort of controversy up of like, you got the dad from Malcolm in the Middle to play this, you know, meth-dealing drug lord? It'll never work. Only for it to work better than any casting choice I think you could have ever made.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Cranston is pure talent.
SPEAKER 08 :
He is. One of the greatest actors.
SPEAKER 07 :
And the thing is, is that he played you know, a funny character on Malcolm in the Middle, but not a character where you thought that he could do much more. You didn't think, oh, this guy's got really broad acting chops and can do anything. And you just didn't think about Bryan Cranston. And what's he go on to do?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he does Breaking Bad, and it absolutely kills the role.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's so good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I agree. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Another one of my favorites. I look like I could be cast in the show right now. That 70s show. Yes. So funny. And they've made two shows after it. That 90s show, and then I'll just throw it in right now. Netflix made The Ranch, which also had Ashton Kutcher, Danny Masterson, Sam Elliott, a few others.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, they produced some stars on that show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Kutcher, Kunis, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Kutcher is a very talented guy. He can do an action movie and turn around and do a comedy and do them equally well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Romantic as well, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 22 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 22 :
You're welcome.
SPEAKER 23 :
Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. We are doing favorite sitcoms. I got to do one that's an all-time classic. Now, this sitcom really pioneered the hyper-liberal political sitcoms.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I know. But you got to keep in mind, I know while that's offensive to Tanner and to me at times. And, you know, the fact is, though, it became the pioneer. And before long, every sitcom had a hard left slant, every single one. And it all started with All in the Family.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, what would our leaving solve? I mean, with or without protests, this country would still have the same problems. What problems? Well, it's the war, the racial problem, the economic problem, the pollution problem. Oh, come on. If you want a nitpick.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nitpick? Let me tell you something, Mr. Bunker. No, let me tell you something, Mr. Stivick. You are a meathead.
SPEAKER 17 :
What did you say?
SPEAKER 16 :
A meathead. Dead from the neck up. Meathead.
SPEAKER 07 :
What do you think? I like it. It's way before your time, I know, but it was funny. And Carol O'Connor, I thought, created possibly the most memorable character ever in sitcom history, certainly in top five.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, because, and the problem is that the, no, top 10, because some are incredible, right? Homer Simpson.
SPEAKER 08 :
There's some like cultural staples.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, he was too. But Homer Simpson, we were talking Jackie Gleason earlier on the Honeymooners. I'm going to throw one out really quick here. Alex on Family Ties.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did you ever see Family Ties? I don't think so. Okay. I just did two. Sorry about that. Okay. Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
You're all right. Well, let's jump to a more modern one. And there are not a whole lot of modern sitcoms, but I think one came out that did it all right. I thought it was pretty decent. Shane Gillis with Tires.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, new season, and they're set for season three. What's it on? Netflix. I just started season two. I've enjoyed the first three episodes. There's 12 of this one.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've never seen it. I like Shane Gillis.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and there's a bunch of other comedians in it.
SPEAKER 07 :
He does good stand-up. Really?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, J.J. Watts in this season. That scene's so funny. J.J. Watts? I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen clips. It's hilarious.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, on Netflix. Go check it out. Okay. Very good.
SPEAKER 09 :
And they're 20-minute episodes. You fly through them without even realizing.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's great. Not a whole lot of, like, decent modern sitcoms coming out. This is one of those. It's like, I can see this kind of becoming more of a staple. I can feel it catching some solid footing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, say it one more time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Tires on Netflix with Shane Gillis. That you put on your car.
SPEAKER 09 :
tires it's called tires yep it's because it's about him working in a tire shop yeah yeah okay i gotta watch it i will i think it's the only one i have on my list that's been created in the last eight years yeah or started in the last eight years okay all right um one that's still going has had a really good track record one of my favorites it's always sunny in philadelphia so good
SPEAKER 07 :
That's Danny DeVito.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. I love him. Charlie Day. I believe that's his name.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is Danny DeVito ever not good?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't think so.
SPEAKER 09 :
You get to see him fail.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. He is so good. Okay. I just got to play the song for this next one because everybody knows it. Here we go.
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Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale, a tale of a fateful trip that started from this topic port aboard this tiny ship. The mate was a mighty sailing man, the skipper brave and sure. Five passengers set sail that day for a three-hour tour, a three-hour tour.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, you guys probably never saw this. It was called Gilligan's Island. I was going to guess that, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I remember seeing it on my grandma's TV after church in 2003, maybe. It was like a rerun.
SPEAKER 07 :
The funny thing about Gilligan's Island, it was just stupid humor. These seven people who are shipwrecked for several years. And yet, it started this long, long-going... argument that still goes today about the two girls who were on the island and one is a movie star named ginger and the other one is a girl from the midwest named marianne and so everybody would all the guys would always ask ginger or marianne ginger or marianne who's your favorite who's the hottest And in real life, Marianne is played by Dawn Wells, who was also a, she had one, she was like Miss Something. I forget what, Miss Arkansas or whatever. And so she was a beautiful lady, too. And Tina Louise played Ginger. And so that's what everybody would always talk about, all the guys, Ginger or Marianne. So there you go. A little bit of history for you. Go ahead, Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, let's go with... Ooh, I haven't seen it, but it is iconic, and I feel like someone's got to say it, so I'll say it now. Golden Girls.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Is Roseanne Barr in that?
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, that's a different show.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a different show. Do you want to go with Roseanne? No, no.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, no, no. There's enough from our times that I think it was 2007 to 2014 was the hotbed, at least for us. I'm going to go with How I Met Your Mother.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
People were upset about the ending of that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
I could see that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't see it. Why? So apparently the – Everybody die in a blimp accident?
SPEAKER 08 :
That would have been very exciting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, spoilers – not going to spoil How I Met Your Mother, but there's – the whole show is a big lead up to finding out who the mother is, and I guess the mother ended up being someone that they really didn't want it to be. Right. There was a fan favorite pick, and she didn't get it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, well, there you go then. You know, I only saw a little part of a couple episodes. It was never my thing. It seemed pretty funny.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was. Yeah, it was all right. It was a good time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Well, here's another cartoon, and this is made by the people who did The Simpsons, and it's in the future, and it's... Futurama.
SPEAKER 08 :
Classic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And in these clips, it's actually Zap Brannigan, who is my favorite idiot commander of a spaceship. And here we go talking Zap Brannigan.
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Just so we'll know, who's the enemy? A valid question. We know nothing about their language, their history, or what they look like. But we can assume this. They stand for everything we don't stand for. Also, they told me you guys look like dorks.
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They look like dorks! Shall I fire on them now, sir?
SPEAKER 18 :
Not yet, Kif. In the game of chess, you can never let your adversary see your pieces. What? We made it through, Kif. How many men did we lose?
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All of them.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, at least they won't have to mourn each other. Seal the airlocks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Seth Branigan. That's good. Yeah, at one point he says the way he won this great battle was to keep sending waves and waves of his men at the enemy until his enemy finally ran out of ammunition. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
If it works, it works.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's such an idiot. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Luke, you're up. Oh, we'll go with another animated one. Definitely newer. Definitely very funny. Shockingly so. The Amazing World of Gumball. I have not seen this. It's a more modern cartoon. A little wacky, a little zany. But one of those where it's like, oh, this has good jokes. Like good highbrow humor.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And what is it called again? The Amazing World of Gumball. The Amazing World of Gumball. I'm interested. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's go with Workaholics.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've never heard of that one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, it's with Adam Devine.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I like him.
SPEAKER 09 :
I can't remember the other two, their actual names, but it was hilarious. All three of them worked in this office with a hot boss, and then they were just always causing havoc. I think it was three or four seasons. It's a good one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I like Adam Devine. He's always funny. Okay, here's another theme song. It's an easy one, but it's an old show that's way before your time. Here we go.
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Do you know this song?
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, happy days now. We were talking earlier about the most classic characters ever created. Another one of them would have to be the Fonz.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Played by Henry Winkler. Certainly one of the classic characters of all time in sitcom history. Okay. All right, Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, let's run it back to young stars getting their start in sitcoms from mine and Tanner's generation. Victorious. Was a show on, I think that one was Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon, yeah. And that one had Ariana Grande in it. Oh, really? Before she was a big movie star. Now, I know she was doing some music and some singing and stuff like that. Right. Yeah, that was, she was in that one, how many years ago was that? Forever ago. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Are you guys looking forward to this winter or Christmas? I forget which. Wicked 2? No.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, if they give her some eyebrows this time, maybe.
SPEAKER 07 :
honestly never saw the first one never will it had moments it had a couple great songs and a lot of really boring songs and it dragged a lot honestly it really did the song at the end is tremendous so there you go what's another one of those if i want to watch something in that vein i'll just watch the wizard of oz yeah yeah see the real story yeah exactly okay um you're up tanner
SPEAKER 09 :
Happy Days, I assume Fonzie is part of the Fon family.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh. Never mind.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's Arthur Fonzarelli, and he's called Fonzie, or the Fonz. And he was a very classic character, and everybody was talking about him constantly. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Entourage. Entourage. I can't think of any of the actors' names, but that was a big show. I can't remember what was on, maybe HBO. Okay. A movie star and then all of his dumb friends and his older brother who wants to become a big actor and a bunch of famous actors and celebrities throughout the show. It was really good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, let's speed it up here a little bit and just do another couple rounds and take a break. I'm going to go with another Danny DeVito show that launched his career, Taxi. And trust me, he was great on it. Go ahead, Luke.
SPEAKER 08 :
Slightly newer, Brooklyn Nine-Nine. That's a funny show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Trailer Park Boys.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. That's funny, too.
SPEAKER 09 :
That was pretty good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, here's another one, a spinoff that came from Cheers, Frasier. And that won all kinds of awards. That was the top show on TV for quite a while. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. We haven't had Seinfeld yet, have we?
SPEAKER 07 :
We have not had Seinfeld.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, let's steal it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well done. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
I have to say this one at some point, The Cosby Show. Oh, ooh.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but still, it dominated. It dominated. I'm going to go The Bob Newhart Show. Okay. That was very popular in its day. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. This is newer. Tanner knows it. Hi, Carly.
SPEAKER 07 :
I actually know that one.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, you do? Tanner, go ahead. Let's go with New Girl.
SPEAKER 07 :
New Girl. I actually know that one. I like that one. Two in a row. Have you guys ever heard of WKRP in Cincinnati? No. It was funny. It was a funny show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, Luke, you're up. A little controversial. Charlie Sheen represent two and a half men. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just a little.
SPEAKER 09 :
A little controversy. Still funny. Let's go with Modern Family. That's a big one.
SPEAKER 07 :
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We don't yell at you. We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLC 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Tanner Cole. Man. And Luke Cash. Man. Okay, let's see what kind of men you are. We're going to go rapid fire. We've got six minutes. Are you ready? No, I'm trying my best. Are you up to it? Ready. Tanner's sweating. We'll survive. Okay, here we go. One of the greatest of all time, M.A.S.H.,
SPEAKER 08 :
Top of my list. Okay. Go, Luke. Arrested Development.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you took it off my list. Go, Tanner. Full House. Full House was funny. Okay. Have you guys ever heard of Third Rock from the Sun? No. No. It's very funny. Trust me. John Lithgow stars. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Luke, you're up. Well, it's not the Third Rock from the Sun, but it is 30 Rock. Nice. 30 Rock. Very good.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yes. Love that one. I love the dance. Carlton. The Carlton dance is just one of the classics. Okay, this spawned movies. Police Squad.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Okay, go ahead. Let's go with Scrubs. Scrubs, good. Tanner, go. Family Matters, Steve Urkel.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, Steve Urkel. Okay, I'm going to go with Wings, another show that came off of the Cheers writers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, Luke, you're up. Swiped right off of Andy's list, Archer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes! You took it off my list. How dare you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe the best kid sitcom ever is SpongeBob SquarePants. Oh, there you go.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's good. Okay, I'm going to go with Everybody Loves Raymond. Okay, Luke, you're up. Hey, Arnold. Hey, Arnold. Wow, another one I've heard of. Go ahead, Tanner. Shameless. Shameless. I've heard of it, but I never saw it. Is it funny? Mm-hmm. Okay. Here's a British one I'll bet you've never heard of. It only ran a few seasons. Black Adder. No.
SPEAKER 08 :
Black Adam?
SPEAKER 07 :
Black Adam. It was very funny. He was a very, very bad person.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Luke, you're up. Here's a British one you have heard of, but there's a better American version. The British Office.
SPEAKER 07 :
The British Office. I've never seen that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's not great.
SPEAKER 07 :
No. Not great. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's go with Freaks and Geeks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Freaks and Geeks. Okay. I got to go to another classic one. The Brady Bunch. The Brady Bunch. We've all heard of that. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Luke, you're up. Oh, let's hit community. Community.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Rules of Engagement.
SPEAKER 07 :
Rules of Engagement. I'd never seen it. Was that funny?
SPEAKER 09 :
David Spade's in it. I liked it a lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I love David Spade. Okay, my wife got this one, an all-time classic, I Love Lucy. All-time classic. And, Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, Mr. Bean. Oh, you stole that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that stars Rowan Atkinson, who is also the star of Black Adder.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I was going to say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that was his other show. Okay. Go ahead, Tanner.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Penguins of Madagascar.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's a movie.
SPEAKER 09 :
Let's go. No, the Penguins. They had a TV show.
SPEAKER 08 :
They had a show?
SPEAKER 09 :
It was great.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was pretty funny. Really? Kowalski.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was pretty good. Kowalski. Well, geez, I love the movie. I got to see. Okay. Ted Lasso. You ever seen it?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, everyone tells me to.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, this one's for you, Tanner. Ned's Declassified. Pulling up some ancient memories.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right, I got The Sweet Life of Zack and Cody.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jeez, that's so young. Killing me. Okay, I'm going to go with The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. She's a stand-up comic. It's pretty funny. Go ahead, Luke.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, this is how I know what a naglet is. Phineas and Ferb.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you're really going down the cartoon route. I am. Go ahead, Tanner.
SPEAKER 09 :
Glee.
SPEAKER 07 :
Glee. Okay, I never saw it, but I hear it's pretty good. Okay, I've got to go with another absolute classic, Get Smart. It was wonderful. Trust me. I grew up on that show and laughed my head off. Go ahead, Luke.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, Bob's Burgers. Nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
One second. Bob's Burgers also stars the same voice of... Archer, is it? Archer. Very well done. I just want to make sure you can get it. Okay, Tanner, you're up.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Fairly Oddparent. Let's go.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, this is just a hilarious show that ran for many years. Married with Children.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Al Bundy, one of my favorite characters ever. Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Lilo and Stitch.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, that was a TV show?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they had a TV show for Lilo and Stitch.
SPEAKER 07 :
Was it a sitcom? Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Disney Channel. I mean, yeah, sitcom. That stumped me. Let's go with Home Improvement.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. Well, of course. Timmy.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, Tim Mal.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, he was great. The original Dick Van Dyke show. And that was actually pretty funny for its time. Okay, Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Running low. Rugrats. Rugrats. You are running low. I am running low.
SPEAKER 07 :
By the way, did you do Malcolm in the Middle? I thought you did. I just wanted to make sure, so I'm taking it off my list. Go ahead, Tanner.
SPEAKER 09 :
Beverly Hills Hillbillies. Oh. Basically my family.
SPEAKER 07 :
The Beverly Hillbillies was great. That was funny. Okay, Sanford and Son. You wouldn't even know what that is. Starring Red Fox. It was a classic. Luke, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, last on my list. Barely qualifies, but it's still good regardless. BoJack Horseman.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's a good show. Okay, Tanner, it's me and you. It's me and you, man. Go. Curb your enthusiasm. Curb your enthusiasm. I'm going to go to Barney Miller. Classic show. Go. Community. Community has already been taken by Luke.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, okay. Two Broke Girls.
SPEAKER 07 :
Two Broke Girls. Okay, I've seen it. McHale's Navy. I'm going way back. It was actually a good show. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
George Lopez.
SPEAKER 07 :
George Lopez. I know it's been mentioned, but did anybody use Roseanne?
SPEAKER 09 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, I'm going to go with Roseanne.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wizards of Waverly Place.
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Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Here's one you would not have thought of. Andy Griffith. Total classic. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hannah Montana.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hannah Montana. He's running low. Here's a funny show. Chuck ran for several years. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Zoe 101. No.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're getting to the end. He's falling apart. Has family ties, I mentioned. Bewitched.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Weeds, Netflix.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. Okay. Here's a show. You've got to watch reruns of this. Night Court. Night Court was very funny. Okay. Go ahead, Tanner.
SPEAKER 09 :
The Eric Andre Show.
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Okay. Laverne and Shirley. Go. Eastbound and Down. Okay. Bosom Buddies. Go. The League. Okay. I Dream of Jeannie. Go. My Name is Earl. Welcome back, Cotter. And that is all we have time for, folks. I should have said Saved by the Bell. That would have been right up your alley. Okay. Thank you for joining us today. That was Best Sitcoms of All Time. Thank you, Tanner. And thank you, Luke. Oh, thank you. Great job. And thank you, Charlie, once again, for keeping us on the right track. That's it for today. Hour 1 replays next. Hour 2 is at 6. John is back on Monday. So until then, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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I'm a rich guy
This episode also kicks off the ACLJ's 35th anniversary celebration, where we reflect on decades of advocacy and justice. Learn about the organization's global footprint, with particular attention on its European counterpart, the ECLJ, and the pivotal role it's playing in nurturing conservative movements abroad. From pushing back against governmental overreach to curtailing international funding against domestic allies, the ACLJ continues to combat challenges at home and abroad. Tune in for a comprehensive rundown of these pressing issues urgently shaping today's political and social landscapes.
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As the big, beautiful bill now heads to the House, could rogue Republicans threaten President Trump's agenda?
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host...
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Welcome to Seculo on Wednesday before the 4th of July. I'm Will Haines, and I'm joined in studio by Jordan Seculo, Executive Director of the ACLJ, back from his world travels, and we're going to get into a lot of that. But Jordan, what everyone's focused on right now is the Senate yesterday passed President Trump's big, beautiful bill. Yes. Had to call in the Vice President for the tie-breaking vote. Right. But he also apparently was able to convince Lisa Murkowski of Alaska to side with the bill, losing a few Republicans there as well. But now it heads to the House.
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Yes.
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And you've been in politics a long time. We know that in order for this to get done, the House can't change anything to what the Senate gave them or gets kicked right back.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
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We're now hearing that there are some Republicans that are saying that their no's right now, some accounts as many as 15 to 20. When you know that members of the House are saying no, most of these big Trump supporters. Yes. What do you think ends up happening here?
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I think phone calls are starting from the president directly saying, I need you on this. And obviously that number of 20 is not sustainable. So if that number is true, this would be a failure before the votes begin. So I don't think they would even call for a vote if that number is true, which we're going to know very soon because the president and the goal is to get this done before the July 4th holiday so things don't revert back. But the idea, what you said, Will, is they can't ask for more concessions. So that's the difference. This is a pressure campaign now. I heard it this morning just coming into the office here. We're in Tennessee. A couple of members of Congress locally here who have said that they may not vote against it. Those ads are already running saying call and tell them to vote for President Trump's. landmark legislation I think that's what this is up to is in the next 24 hours is President Trump able to convince the American people this is really about his agenda this is really about what you voted for and that these Republicans are actually standing in the way of what President Trump won on and why he won was making these promises like the tax cuts being permanent to the American people but it's still I mean it's still uphill until you cross over you saw with J.D. Vance having to come in that's up until the last moment if again Republicans can't get concessions so they're not going to get more out of this by holding out the question is what can they get in the future what other deals can be made about other legislation that I don't think we're going to necessarily know what we will know is if this vote occurs we will know that it's not up to 20. now do you sometimes start these votes and you're still a couple votes short because you want to put the pressure on
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absolutely absolutely are any of these republican rogues willing to be the one vote by themselves that actually killed the president's landmark piece of legislation in second term and we'll get into more of that also what a recap of what reconciliation is why it looks like this all that in the next segment as well as we'll talk with jordan about all of the events and things that he was doing all the work for over a month in Europe with the ECLJ and what that means both domestically here, what it means for the future of that office and the work we do abroad and how it all impacts you. As we mentioned yesterday, we are now in July and we are kicking off the 35th anniversary of the ACLJ. Started 1990 with landmark cases before the Supreme Court. And we have been able to accomplish a lot here at the ACLJ, working both here at the Supreme Court, protecting individuals who are being discriminated against for their faith, being silenced for their faith, protecting the unborn, exposing corruption in the government. And we've been doing that for 35 years, but we know that the fight is not over. It's just intensifying. And so today, your donations are doubled as we kick off this 35 Years of Justice campaign. Every dollar you give is matched. Go to aclj.org slash 35. That's the number three and five. aclj.org slash 35. Have your donation doubled today. Support us in this battle for the next 35 years. We'll be right back on Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. And we are taking your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110. If you have questions about the big, beautiful bill, the process in the legislature, or if you have questions about Jordan's trip to Europe. And when I say trip, hard work that you did for over a month in Europe at the ECLJ, meeting with leaders from around the world that share stories. for the first time really, an American-style conservative value system that we're starting to see in Europe. And so if you have questions on any of that or anything, it's the week before 4th of July. We can be a little wide with the topics if you want to call us at 1-800-684-3110. But I think we should lead off with this call as we talk about this process because it can set up – why this has to happen this way yes why the uh the entire system why the agenda of president trump which they're saying is 85 of what he ran on he's trying to get passed legislatively through this bill uh so let's go ahead and take jimmy calling online too he's calling from california jimmy you're on seculo yeah i'm here i can hear you um yeah no i i was just um i'm actually uh
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I'm extremely disappointed in, in all of this, to be honest with you. And main reason why is because of, uh, you know, all the waste and the fraud and the abuse and all this stuff that we've been, they've been uncovering millions and billions and billions of dollars that have been being stolen from us. And then the Congress and the Senate and all these people that are trying to pass this bill, they want to fight it tooth and nail every inch on it, send it back and forth and this and that. And it's not even that good. It's not even as good as it really should be, in my opinion. And everybody keeps saying, oh, well, you know, it'll get better. This is just the first thing and this and that. No, there's no excuse for it at this point with where things are. There is no, absolutely no excuse, in my opinion, for these people to be fighting any of this. And in my opinion, every single one of them should be fired. Every one of them has failed us. Every one of them needs a pay cut, if anything. They don't deserve the money that they've been getting out of us either. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER 03 :
I definitely hear your frustration. Actually, I don't disagree with the frustration, especially what was revealed through Doge, seeing all the waste, fraud, and abuse. Yeah, it was criminal at many of these agencies. As a matter of fact, I mean, the HHS and the FDA just unveiled all this criminal fraud that was going on under the eyes of the...
SPEAKER 01 :
think we've seen yet really the the full outcome of what's going to occur with some of those cuts i think we're just starting to get to the the beginning of that where we're starting to see a little bit less politicized a little bit more about the actual ways fraud and abuse that they found in these agencies and actually getting those cuts made but i think it's important to know why we are in this situation the filibuster So this is a budget reconciliation process, which means you are never going to get to 100%. Now, it's up to you and the American people to decide, you know, does 70% of what you want, is that enough for you? Or would you still vote no? And what would you encourage your member of Congress to do? They'll ultimately have to own this vote. It's very tough to say right now when you still have the number at 20 that this is definitely going to pass. But in the Senate, we saw this come down to literally the vice president's vote. I would imagine if you look at the history of Mike Johnson as speaker, he's been able to move these through. Now, the negotiating is, like you said, slow. Over. We played a bite during the break that I thought was very telling from Speaker Johnson, and that was, listen, the Senate did their thing. They did a little bit more than we wanted to, but he's not saying we're going to go and change that, because if you do, you're just restarting this process. You're looking at potentially not funding the government correctly. I think what... The White House and now Speaker Johnson needs to do in these 24 hours or less is start explaining to the American people about why they vote yes. Why do you tell your member of Congress who might be one of those 15 holdouts? Why do you pick up the phone like the ads are asking you to do in red states? You're probably hearing these ads right now. Why pick up the phone and do that? And I think that's been I've been overseas for a month. But I remember this process had started a couple weeks before I left. I was in a meeting with Speaker Johnson when the big, beautiful bill was announced, the name was announced, and they have stuck with that name. But ultimately, they knew then, so this is more than six weeks ago, how difficult this would be coming up on the July 4th holiday, and now we're here. And so this is a time, I think, where do you go with the present? who many of you support very vigorously and say, you know what, he's telling you, vote for this, trust me on this, or you're going to go with a member of Congress, may not even be your member of Congress, in the House who potentially just didn't get what they wanted in this. You know, sometimes it's there's 435 members of congress you've got to convince the republicans and maybe these some of these republicans didn't get exactly what they wanted in this in this piece of legislation not to say that's the best way to legislate is have 200 something odd people put in what they want then say vote on it but that is how the reconciliation process works there's a lot of limitations as well you saw the parliamentarian strike some of the amendments down that is just uh dealing with reality so long as we have a filibuster
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and to the caller's point about that not enough was done, I think also people widely may be conflating the budget reconciliation process with like the omnibus and appropriations bills that we see that are where all the spending goes. That's where you see all those like pork project line items that you're like, how is this still being in there? And then the omnibus, they're just keeping funding levels the same way because our Congress can't come to an agreement on anything. But what budget reconciliation can do is actually very limited. So the waste, fraud, and abuse that we want to really tackle is more found in things like appropriations bills, discretionary funding. There's really only three things that budget reconciliation can, one, to avoid the filibuster, of which we know there is not enough Democrats that would allow it to move forward for a real non-budget reconciliation, process of anything you'd want to support and the only things that you can address in budget reconciliation are mandatory spending which is not even defense spending defense spending is considered discretionary spending so mandatory spending that's why a lot of the focus is on the more entitlement programs medicaid medicare and then you can only uh you can raise revenues or decrease revenues through taxes which is why the tax cuts are a big thing And then you can affect the debt limit through it. So really only three things here. Now, what can be done of the agenda of President Trump, about 75% to 85% of what he ran on, he can get new policies and things in place. But a lot of the cuts to the programs that we most desperately need to root out waste, fraud, and abuse can't even be touched by budget reconciliation. No, that's not happening through this process. But also... the things like Medicare fraud, Medicaid fraud can be addressed. And that is part of the reason why there is a big welfare reform angle to this, which is very similar to what Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton were praised for coming together on in the early 90s. Is now the Democrats couldn't even see what their past leadership came together with Republicans on because it is so taboo to even go anywhere near President Trump that they're saying that this is going to end the lives of people.
SPEAKER 01 :
Of course. So you can't you can't buy the politics we heard about. I think it's every five, six years that. some kind somehow piece of legislation you know we're gonna push grandma off the cliff this is the the same story once again is that you know people are not gonna be able to get food or people are not gonna be able to services we're gonna people are gonna get their services this is about again whether or not and this is this will be the politics of this um we saw this leading up to the vote i mean we saw this kind of fringe movement who has been anti the iran strikes They're taking on this mantle as well. So this will be a lot of test to see is when they ultimately has to get to a vote. And I'm not saying if you can be one of the votes that doesn't matter, that's easy to kind of write off. But if you have to be one of the two members of Congress and you ran on basically being a MAGA Republican or a Trump Republican, and maybe President Trump coming to your district or coming to your state is really what got you over the edge, are you going to be able to vote no on this? When as Will said, it gets you 80% of the way there. And in politics, usually you take 75% or 80% as a win. And you move on to then to fight that other 20%. You fight it out. And you could fight that out with Democrats. And you've got to move that through other pieces of legislation. Why is the timing of this so significant? I think the timing is significant because the closer we get to midterms, And every time you get through a summer, it's going to get tougher and tougher to pass legislation like this. So this is really that one opportunity to pass major legislative reform through, through this process of reconciliation that allows you to get to that 75%. It's not perfect. We know Washington is far from perfect. There are reforms that are necessary to make Washington even get closer to where we all like to see it. We have not yet seen and we have not yet honestly seen enough of a Republican majority willing to stick together through those fights. It is such a fragile majority. And we've seen that play out through a couple of issues unrelated to this bill in just the last couple of weeks leading up to this.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And we'll get into more of this in the next segment. We have phone calls that are already pouring in. If you want to join us on air, if you have a question for Jordan on a range of topics, whether it's what we're talking about here, about his work in Europe, and how you can also join the ACLJ as we continue these fights. But we are celebrating the 35th anniversary of the ACLJ. And this isn't a party. This is doubling down. This is saying that we know liberty, life, justice, all of these things that we hold dear are under attack. and we have to double down now, and we need you to join us. Your donations will be doubled during this 35 Years of Justice campaign. You can go to aclj.org slash 35, that's three five, or you can scan the QR code on your screen if you're watching on YouTube or Rumble or any of our platforms there. But join us today. Make a donation. It's doubled during our 35 Years of Justice campaign. We need you now as we look at these fights ahead. We'll be back with more on Sekulow. Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haines here, joined in studio by Jordan Sekulow, Executive Director of the ACLJ, who has been traveling in Europe with our European Center for Law and Justice, as well as doing a lot of other things. You've seen him Multiple times from Europe on the broadcast, one time from the UN. But Jordan, I wanted to get a quick update, especially as we talk about this in light of this 35 years of justice campaign that we're in, where donations are doubled to the ACLJ as we redouble our efforts here, knowing the attacks we're seeing. And also, I wanted to kind of tie that in because when you donate to the ACLJ, it supports all our work. It supports this broadcast. It supports the European Center for Law and Justice, our work at the UN. But how important the next 35 years are looking ahead in light of what you were able to accomplish and see while you were in Europe? Yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
I think we have some very unique opportunities right now in Europe. And this is, obviously, you've seen some successes of political movements that really we have not seen the likes of in Europe in the modern conservative movement. I mean, so to have allies, I mean, maybe you go back to Margaret Thatcher. I mean, maybe to make some kind of comparison to how close we could see some of these political movements work with the United States. They are There are a couple that have been successful. We've seen it in Italy. We've seen it in Hungary. We were in Hungary first. That's where we started our trip with Viktor Orban. But we have also seen right on the edges of victory in places like France, Spain, Poland, Romania. I mean, the list kind of goes on and on. And you're seeing these movements, Germany as well. Europe doesn't really know what to make of them, especially the European Union. And so there is a concern now that the movements that have been successful, that this is the key test for their survival, whether it's not what we saw in France and trying to take Marine Le Pen off the ballot there so she can't run for president in two years. We've also seen a lot of concern out of Hungary with the EU's involvement potentially in their next election, which is in another year as well, because if they could get rid of Viktor Orban and get rid of Hungary is this example of what it means to have secure borders in Europe. And then honestly, how shockingly different Budapest would feel to other major European capitals right now because of what they've done on immigration in Hungary and the criticism they take. But no one is kind of sitting on their victories. They know that the mass force against them, a lot of this is the Soros money, and a lot of American leftist groups, that are going to come in and test these movements to see if they can shake up enough of their support. Most of them get around 30 to 40% of their support and then they coalition with another part of the government. Can they beat them once and for all? And what I mean once and for all is can they beat them for another couple decades? So where we have to seize on this for us and for why it's so important for the work that we do at the ACLJ and the ECLJ is I don't know when we'll have another opportunity like this to have such close relationships with European elected officials and European political movements that are not afraid to be associated with American political movements. And in the past, you know, you might see the word conservative used in France. You might see it in England, in the UK, some of their elections as well. And it does not mean the same thing. It might mean that we're more similar than maybe the left. But when you actually start looking at the politics of it, groups like us, if you care about issues like the family, if you talk about life at all, if you talk about immigration, those are fringe movements. Right. like they were kind of in the United States in the 70s and 80s, they've now built up to becoming in the mainstream. And I think what we can do and what we have to do, it's so important that we do, is make sure that we're providing enough support to those groups to make sure they stay within the mainstream of the political battles. It doesn't mean you're going to win every election. We don't do that here in the United States. And we know that's not realistic. But it's that you stay within the mainstream. So to have one day movements that are friendly to the United States leading these European nations.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and you even bring that up, the issues that we care about and have fought for in the United States for 35 years as the ACLJ are things that took 35 years to fight back against. And even think about the pushing back against Roe versus Wade, how long that took. Sure. If you almost look at the European conservative movement that has some mirrorings of those early social conservative American-style movements, they are in the early stages. And how great would that be for the United States, for policy, for our allies, the way that we interact with them, if we're able to see real freedom in in the European countries that we haven't really seen. I mean, you think about what you see about how free speech is being limited in these countries because they are afraid of these movements. And that's why it is important. If we can have allies that uphold American values, which are really human values, human rights, really, like these are things that shouldn't be considered American conservative values. But if we can really help fight for that and find allies there, even back at home that helps the american people because the foreign policy isn't at odds even if it is a democrat in office that is against our values that we have to fight here at home there could be pressure from european partners like we don't like what you're doing uh future unnamed democrat that is trying to silence conservative christians free speech because of that we can actually have effect even here at home by working through this it
SPEAKER 01 :
how long have we in the United States had to say, okay, we have the foreign policy relationship with the country. We have an economic policy, but we know they think we're crazy. I mean, that's kind of, you know, and if you go to their media, you will see their domestic media, while they respect the United States power at these global meetings and summits. And of course, when it comes down to actual negotiations and support, whether it's foreign policy or economic policy, at the end of the day, these are not great friendships right now. And they are kind of looking down on the United States and our politics, and especially the politics of the right. But that is because, I think the reason there's such disdain is because inside their own countries, it's brewing to a level they've never seen before. So when these movements are now... It's tough to wrap your head around as American, but understand that a movement in a European country that's getting 40% of the vote, where Emmanuel Macron's party in France probably averages about 25% of the vote. Now, he's able to put together some bizarre coalition partners to remain as leader of the country. And what the conservatives now are looking for is who will be that leader. more mainstream political group that will join and give us that extra 10%. I think what our job is to do is make sure legally they're not being interfered with. One of the things we're watching very closely, again, I think leading up to the next election in Hungary, is how much outside money. And when I say outside money, most of it's coming from the United States of America, is going to elect far left socialists to overrun a conservative movement that is happening naturally and locally and domestically. And yet our own dollars, and listen, a lot of this was coming through USAID before, are going to try and defeat these political allies that we have.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that also goes back to the agenda of President Trump, things like cutting USAID, because we found out at the ACLJ that the Obama administration was funding groups in Israel to try and overthrow Bibi Netanyahu. Imagine if it were Kamala Harris, the president right now, what USAID would be doing at upcoming elections today. for their political adversaries abroad in places like Hungary, you better believe that it wouldn't just be NGOs in the United States that would be funding it. It would be NGOs in the United States funding that, but with your taxpayer dollars. These are the things that we have to uncover. We have to fight back against. That's why it is so important that we have an office in Europe, that we have offices around the world in Jerusalem, that we have offices here around the country. Because the ACLJ While it may have not sought to be this global, impactful law firm, because of you, it is. We were fighting for individuals 35 years ago that couldn't have Bible clubs, that couldn't pray in front of an abortion clinic, but they can because of your support, and that mission is now global. So join us today as we double down for another 35 years at aclj.org slash 35.
SPEAKER 02 :
keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Welcome back to Sekulow's second half hour. Will Haines here, joined by Jordan Sekulow, Executive Director of the ACLJ, in studio with me today. And we led off the show, and we should reset here, is that now the big, beautiful bill has been passed by the Senate 51-50 with J.D. Vance as the tie-breaking vote. The House, there are members of the House rushing back. They'd already started their vacation thinking it wasn't going to get there in time. Having to get back to D.C. to potentially vote on this within the day. They are trying to get this across the finish line. But Jordan, some of the other things that are not being talked about, because everyone's talking about how it doesn't go far enough. It doesn't do enough cuts. Not necessarily even understanding the full reconciliation process that they're stuck with. But The other angle of it is what will happen if they don't pass anything. And that is reverting to pre-Trump 2016 tax policy, economic policy, things that were put in place during his first term that lasted through the Biden term and now are up for going away.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I mean, one of the things that we've talked about at ACLJ.org and at ACLJ Actions, the child tax credit. In the House version, that tax credit went to $2,500 temporarily and then begins to index again for inflation at $2,000. The Senate took that up to $2,200, so they brought that up a little higher. There were some members of Congress that wanted it to be bigger. But I think the fact that we're even there with what we took a credit from $1,000 to over $2,000 is very important. I mean, this is a child tax credit that supports, again, putting families first. And this is something, again, that this would go away. So if this is not supported, I don't think we've talked about it enough, these policies would fall. They would fall back to their initial spending levels of $1,000. So people were used to the $2,000 plus. Now they would have to get used to maybe $1,000. So it would cut in half the impact of the child tax credit at least. And so in the final Senate bill, you've got this up to $2,200. This is so important for working families. It's so important for middle class Americans that these credits either remain at or are made larger. Because when you start cutting them, really any of the benefits you may have seen or things you got used to, these become tax increases. You're now paying more. You're getting less out of your federal government. You're not getting the reward you might have in the past for making sure that we have robust families in the United States of America. So this is just one piece that I think is so important, Will. Again, child tax credit, not something that gets – it's not really – something that's highly debated about whether or not it's good or not. It's almost how high should it be. We've got it up to over $2,000 here per child. I think this is so important for working families. And this is something, again, that if this legislation doesn't pass, reverts back to pre-Trump era. So it goes, instead of being indexed in inflation for $2,000, We're talking about a $1,000 tax credit. It's not nothing. I don't want to say that it means nothing at all, but that's a significant cut to, again, something to reward people for having children in the United States of America during times that were tough economically, during times that can be better economically. You talked about this being all about President Trump's signature economic reform. It's so interesting to me right now. And we'll see where the grassroots is, because I really do think that's what this is going to come down to is, is the grassroots pressure really gotten to the point where they want to defeat what President Trump is calling his most important legislation?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And Jordan, as you mentioned, also an index is for inflation so that tax credit can grow because of in one of the biggest problems is that tax credit became less valuable under the Biden administration because of the out of control inflation. Another thing the bill does is something we've been fighting for at the ACLJ for decades. Defunding Planned Parenthood federally is taking that money away from them. And one of the reasons that can happen is because reconciliation happens. deals with mandatory spending. Medicaid, Medicare is where Planned Parenthood gets its funding from the federal government, and they are able to take that away because of the budget reconciliation process. That is a big victory for the American people, for the ACLJ, as well as coming off the heels of the case we won last week at the Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 01 :
Let's double down.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, double down because we won. We're states. We're allowed to defund Planned Parenthood within the state. This is a big time to seize the momentum. Support the ACLJ during our 35 years of justice campaign. Your donations are doubled. Welcome back to Seculo. I'll be joined by Ambassador Rick Grinnell very shortly. And it looks like we've got him connected. They're going to check his levels, make sure we're all good on that. But what we're going to talk about here is something interesting because of the way that President Trump is using diplomacy as a tool in ways that we haven't seen American foreign policy be used maybe in my lifetime. as a way to get done things that seem impossible without warfare, which is what the Democrat Party has always used warfare to try and get regime change and things across the finish line. But Rick, we're hearing that Bibi Netanyahu will be making a trip to the United States next week. This wasn't something that was on the books already. This is after Ron Dermer came and met with the president this week. And now we're seeing that the prime minister himself will be coming to the United States. And a lot of this is centered around ending the war in Gaza. And we've seen the president already do great things with diplomacy. But what is your take and what's your read on what we're seeing and what could potentially come out of Prime Minister Netanyahu coming to D.C. next week?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, obviously Israel is a great ally and having the head of state for Israel come to meet with the head of state for the United States is a very big deal. President Trump and Bibi Netanyahu will talk about a variety of issues, not just trade, but the important issues right now, the urgent issues are the multiple wars. You've got conflict with Iran, you've got a conflict going on in Gaza, And these are two issues that President Trump wants to see an end to, that he wants to make sure that the peace agreement that he was able to forge between Iran and Israel and America holds. And in addition to that, we've got the conflict going on in Gaza right now. And that's got to come to an end. President Trump is a peacemaker. He's someone who pushes peace deals, but he does it in a way where he's strong. He's not weak. He's not looking like Jimmy Carter begging for peace. He's looking more like Ronald Reagan demanding peace. And I think that's a big difference and something that President Trump is really proud of. We will see this play out next week when he meets with Bibi Netanyahu at the White House.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Enric, I think the doctrine of peace through strength got lost for several decades, and it became peace through war, that we will bomb you into peace and then send an infantry in and occupy and continue this protracted long war, which is in the name of bringing about peace. It seems very much like the pure Ronald Reagan doctrine is returning to the forefront again, where... Yes, we are not afraid to use our military might, but it doesn't mean that we're just going to completely wipe out cities and send in the Marines and infantry and sit there and make sure you're on your best behavior, that we can show you how strong we are, what we have the capabilities to do. But then we'll still talk with you. We'll take your phone call and we'll make sure that you continue to play nice and we will keep an eye on you. That really seems to be for the first time since Ronald Reagan that we're seeing that play out. And it's very refreshing for the American people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, look, I would say it slightly differently. I would say that President Trump is somebody who doesn't want to do regime change, doesn't want to try to export democracy, but will act when it's in the best interest of the national security for the United States. we feel threatened in any way. President Trump feels responsible for defending American bases and Americans to make sure that our security is guaranteed. And so he's going to use the military appropriately, strategically. And I would point out that, you know, all of the attacks that President Trump did on the nuclear programs in Iran. He made it clear that he was attacking the nuclear program, not the people, not the government. He was attacking these programs that were out of control, that the intelligence showed were getting close, and we cannot have Iran with a nuclear weapon. I would point out that I didn't hear a single person in Iran that was killed because of those attacks. The program was killed. And that's the difference. And I think that's a Trump doctrine, something that he's very proud of. And he said, I'm not going to do regime change. I want to have peace talks. But you just simply cannot have a nuclear weapon.
SPEAKER 03 :
And once again, as we look ahead to the 4th of July, I want to take this a little bit lighter tone. We talk a lot about the conflicts abroad with you, with your expertise, but we're approaching, this will be the 149th birthday of the United States. We're just shy of just over a year from the 250th anniversary birthday of the United States. And From your perspective, as you have your hands in a lot of places, whether it be the Kennedy Center, the special envoy work that you've done for the president, the ACLJ, what hope are you seeing in the American people as we head into – What will be a year, and I truly believe should be a year of celebration for the American people as we head towards this landmark anniversary. But that all kicks off this weekend as we approach July 4th for the 249th time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Look, the 4th of July is my favorite holiday. It's a family holiday. It's a time that we celebrate our freedoms, America. And it is a patriotic moment for so many people and for me and my family, especially. We're hosting a big celebration here at the Kennedy Center. We can see the fireworks that are done on the mall here in Washington, DC. And the National Symphony Orchestra, which is based here at the Kennedy Center, is the entertainment for the 4th of July. So we're going to pipe that in from the mall just less than a half a mile away to the Kennedy Center. And we're going to be celebrating the birth of this nation, the independence of America here at the Kennedy Center. If you're in town, Will, or anybody who's in town, you should come by. It's open and we're going to have a great time of celebrating. But I think the more important part is that we get to celebrate this year because President Trump has given us incredible freedoms. He's fixing our country. Our credibility is back on the world stage. And I had dinner last night with four ambassadors from the Middle East. And they were all saying to me that they are so proud that the president of the United States is pushing for peace and trying to end these wars and that his strength is the reason why they believe all of these wars will be ended. So there's an optimism in the Middle East like never before.
SPEAKER 03 :
And if anyone has never been to DC for the 4th of July, I know, Rick, you try to stay out of DC because of the swamp creatures that abound there. But one of the greatest things you can do is go to a 4th of July celebration in Washington, DC. I've had the honor to do it several times. It is unbelievable in the sense of pride you get as an American standing there with your fellow Americans in that city watching and celebrating what is the greatest country on earth together is just it's something you can't even describe with words so rick i won't be there this year but i wish i was going to be there because i would stop by the kennedy center something i have not done on the 4th of july but i know that you are going to have a great time celebrating this country and and that sense of pride in the united states has returned to the american people after four years of embarrassment on the world stage.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we're so excited to be celebrating it. It's I got to be honest with people. The weather is not Southern California weather. So that's one of the big negatives about being in Washington, D.C., in the swamp is that it's swampy weather, hot and sticky. But that's part of summer. And it's not going to stop us from celebrating America. And we'll have a great time in Washington, D.C. And I know people across the nation, small towns. I'm going to miss my small town of Manhattan Beach, California, for the first time, where we do an amazing celebration. I know small towns across this country love to celebrate the birthday of America and freedom. And it's one of the greatest holidays. So I hope everyone has an amazing holiday this year.
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Rick, thank you so much for joining us. Have a happy 4th of July, and we'll be talking with you soon. But folks, as we wrap up this segment, I want to remind you we'll be taking your phone calls in the next segment. Jordan will be back in here as we go through all these calls. So give us a call at 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on air to talk about whether it be the agenda, of the president, whether it be about the big, beautiful bill or any other topics, ACLJ related, the 35 years of justice that we're celebrating this year, give us a call, 1-800-684-3110. But while the 4th of July is a big celebration and a big party, Our 35 years of justice isn't just throwing a party. It's not just celebrating, look what we've accomplished over 35 years at the ACLJ, which is a lot. It is a lot of things to celebrate. but our eyes are looking forward. We know the battles ahead. We know what we have to be prepared for, and we're good at it. We win when we fight, but we need you to join us to fight for the future of liberty and justice in this country. We need you to stand with the ACLJ as we look at 35 years more. Go to aclj.org slash 35 and have your donation doubled during this 35 years of Justice Drive. Join us today and we'll be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow, final segment of the broadcast. And Jordan, we're going to take some phone calls here. Let's go ahead and go to Dion calling from Seattle on line one. Dion, you're listening on the radio and you're on the air. Go ahead.
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Thank you. Welcome back, Jordan. I hope you had a good listen. I should look. This is going to be a major, major Democratic propaganda thing if they come out saying that, you know, we failed. To all those people that are worried about the entitlement type things, well, you know, they're talking so many over like 11 years. Well, you don't know that. That is not some reason to halt a bill that can really get the country going. Right now, I think the country is really anxious and looking for something that's going to, you know, improve the country. So either Trump should go on next on TV tomorrow night and explain it to those and people should call those rogue Republicans and say, hey. We've got to get something through now. We can work on the other later.
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Well, I think we are seeing that. So, Dion, on my way in today to the broadcast this morning, those campaigns to put those phone calls into those rogue Republicans is already happening in their congressional districts. So that checkbox is done. I think check two would be, listen, if this vote is very, very close, We might see something like that from the president, or at least from the house leadership, like speaker Johns of a little bit more of a breakdown. Now, have they done this for people 20 times already? Yes. But this is when the American people are starting to pay the closest attention is when the actual vote is going to come about. And unfortunately, people are going to pay close attention to this because I think Dion's right. If this gets close, but doesn't get over the line, it will be seen as a major failure by the Trump administration and by president Trump.
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And it also will hurt the American people when their taxes immediately shoot up to pre-2016 levels.
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There's a reason why Democrats aren't supporting this. Always remember, when there's a 100% Democrat unity against this piece of legislation, anytime there's a 100% Democrat unity on a piece of legislation, I'm inclined to support it. Right. That's where I go on. If they're that lockstep that they believe this is going to help... republicans that this is going to help conservatives why are they so lockstep because this will hurt them in their midterm election so this whole talk by them oh they pass this this is going to be it's horrible for the country you know this is going to hurt republicans so bad they wouldn't be this lockstep in unity against it anytime they are they are this much in line and the democrat party is not in line on much right now To me, that tends for me to say, you know what, this is probably better than it is bad. And unfortunately, with legislation, sometimes that's how you have to look at it. Is the better that's in this legislation outweigh the bad that's in there? And that's just part of dealing with reconciliation and dealing with we don't have a 60-vote majority in the Senate right now to get through the filibuster, the legislative filibuster.
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That's right. And also, I mean, Jordan, you've mentioned how they are mobilizing. I've gotten three phone calls while we've been on air that doesn't say spam call. It's notifying me it's a political call. Yes. And I know that's because I live in a district where there is a member of Congress who is trying to restore the bill back to the original House version. which will just completely set this on fire.
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You can't do that through reconciliation. So to start that process, you'd have to start over. And again, it's very tough to get here. You've already gotten here once where you got it through the Senate barely because of Vice President Vance's vote as president of the Senate. Listen, I don't want to say that you only got one shot at it, but it's very difficult to get back here again.
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Well, especially the reason that there is a July 4th deadline. Members of Congress want to go on their recess. If they are able to, if they adjourn without getting this done, it becomes an infinitely harder lift once they get back from their districts. Because you know what their eyes are on then? When you get back from the 4th of July recess, they start looking at their election next year. And then it gets a lot harder. Let's go ahead and take Rob calling on line two from South Carolina. Rob, you're an ACLJ champion and you're on the air.
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Hey, Rob.
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Howdy.
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Go ahead.
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Yes, I would want to say that I was a missionary in Russia three years after the fall of communism. And I can tell you what, communism... will not help this country out. They still walked around like a bomb went off in that country. They couldn't think to or be anything they wanted to be because of how they were controlled by communism. If you don't pass this bill, it's another step towards communism.
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This is kind of the clarity that has been lacking recently. Looking at this from – usually I'm here 24-7 in these political moments, so the fact that I was kind of overseas and you're getting the highlights, you're getting our reporting on it and our specifics on it, what I think has – kind of led up to this moment is you've got a group of Republicans thinking this is their moment to outshine President Trump that they are somehow building a movement that they can take on and take away from him and so I think we saw that with the decision on Iran even though so far the negative repercussions from that are null I mean I haven't seen any yet Iran has not been able to respond through proxies we didn't see Hezbollah enter the conflict and right now we've got a ceasefire that's holding so However you want to look at it, Iran's nuclear program has been delayed. I think the second point though is here. is who did you vote for? Now, you might have voted for one of these rogue Republicans, and you might have voted for President Trump. What really motivated you to get to the ballot box? And who do you actually trust? So do you trust President Trump saying this is so important to him and his legislative priorities? Or are you going to trust a member of the House that may or may not represent your constituency or you, but is really down to about, you know, out of the... Republican majority, you're down to about 20 of them. So it's a pretty small group saying they think this is bad. What motivated you to vote the last election cycle? And what is going to motivate you to vote the next election cycle? And likely, if you think back on that, it probably wasn't one of these House members. It was probably President Trump.
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That's right. Jordan, as we wrap up here, I want to give you an opportunity as well. As we enter this season of this 35 years of Justice Drive where we look back at the history but it's really about looking forward. It's really about what the ACLJ is mobilized and what we can do in the fights we know we have ahead and how important it is for our members and our champions to stand with us in this 35 years of victory.
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It's so important. I mean, one, you've been there with us and we appreciate all of you who have been with us. Whatever part of that 35 years you came along to support the ACLJ, we thank you. And I'm talking to a lot of people who have been there the entire time since I was a teenager. But then we look forward and we take on, how do we take these victories? and expand them, their reach, both here in the United States and around the world so that the impact it has, whether it's the persecution of Christians and continuing to highlight that, but also continuing to isolate the countries who allow that kind of persecution and to make sure that they are seen as the pariahs that they are at the international stage. We've talked about a nuclear Iran getting to the point where we've seen those facilities finally come under the full fire of the United States military. We've been talking about that for decades. We've been talking about defunding Planned Parenthood. Now we have an opportunity to do it federally and at the state level. And we've got the green light from the U.S. Supreme Court to do it. So let's make sure we take these opportunities, support the work of the ACLJ, ACLJ.org slash 35. Again, building on those 35 years of success, building on those 35 years of getting the ACLJ to where it is today and our global partners to where they are today. Let's make sure not to sit on our hands, but to realize we have moments to make great impact. This is one of those moments. So do it at ACLJ.org slash 35 today.
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That'll do it for today on the broadcast. Once again, donations are doubled at ACLJ.org slash 35 as we look ahead to 35 more years of justice.
Join Craig Collins as he fills in on the Dana Show, bringing tales from the infamous 'Florida Man' escapades. From valets going rogue with fancy cars to bizarre drug discoveries, this episode is packed with stories that truly define the phrase 'only in Florida'. As Collins delves into these whimsical tales, listeners will enjoy a humorous yet insightful portrayal of these unbelievable events.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right, it's time for Florida Man on the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. DLash, DanaLashRadio, and X on Twitter to stay connected to all things her. I have a few Florida Man stories. First, a valet in Miami got in trouble because he was doing his thing at a high-rise apartment complex, and someone came up with a real fancy car, and the valet decided, I'm taking this one and going. The guy ran away, drove away in a victim's car outside of the apartment building, later was apprehended. His name is Augusto Cesar Sandino Troas. He's 23. He is, again, of Miami, Florida himself. That's Grand Theft Auto. That's the kind of thing you don't want to be doing. There's video footage of it. There's the guy himself handing the keys and glancing at the car and watching it exit and then go its own direction. All this, not a good move and not worth one joyride. in all honesty. If you want a car this bad for a few hours before you get arrested by the police, just rent one. Hopefully not get arrested by the police. Hopefully that's the other caveat to my version of a plan and not this one. Just rent that vehicle. Pay an excess amount of money, especially in a place like Miami, where you're going to be able to find a rental company that has some fancy cars, drive around like a moron, and then live your life outside of jail. That's just my recommendation and not the way this guy wanted to go. Another story. This one's amazing. Not just because of the ridiculousness of it. A beachgoer in Florida found 25 kilos of cocaine on a Florida beach. This happened in Walton County. But the fact that all of the kilos of cocaine had a photograph of Yosemite Sam on the front of the packaging of cocaine. I don't know why. Yosemite Sam was the, you know, logo of choice for this person that's got all these illegal drugs and why they then decided to leave all the drugs on a beach worth about five hundred thousand dollars in actual money. The beachgoer who found it did turn it all in, chose not to feed any of it to sharks, which was a good decision because I would not want to see cocaine shark become a real thing, especially not in Florida. But there's just ridiculous stuff here. And to be honest, if you didn't live in Florida and you found a bunch of cocaine, and I mean a lot of it, with Yosemite Sam on the front of every package on a beach somewhere, you'd think it was the most ridiculous thing that had ever happened in the place you live. The only state where you'd be like, yeah, it seems about right, seems to be Florida. But this actually occurred, and it was crazy, and luckily the person turned it over. We hope all of it. We assume all of it. We don't know for sure. We'll see what happens from there. One last story in the world of Florida Man, and I like this one too. A nurse found a bunch of drugs inside of Florida Man's butt during a surgery. The guy, for some reason, decided to hide it there. The guy's name is Michael O'Neill. He is 43. He suffered from a stab wound. He didn't want to explain to anyone. Went to St. Petersburg's hospital. The injuries required surgery and well under. People discovered... I think a crack pipe and a lighter for some reason inside the man's rectum. I don't know why you hide the lighter there because you could just have that in your pocket, bud. You know, that's not illegal. You can have that one on you. But nonetheless, he was arrested. And here's the craziest part of this story. Not the first time. that this individual has been arrested where his hiding place of choice was the backside, and the hiding object of choice was a bunch of drugs. Michael O'Neill also once checked into prison, and while getting patted down, they located a bunch of drugs and paraphernalia, fentanyl and whatnot, in the man's rectum. It seems to be his move. As horrible as it is, that's a Florida man as Florida gets. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is interesting. Outnumbered reacted to this story by saying how much several members of that television show, that television news program, like this. Tennessee law is going to allow courts to suspend or delay a minor's driver's license for up to a year if they're found guilty of bullying and or cyberbullying. Again, I'm kind of surprised that Fox News and some of their pundits We're such big fans of this because it does feel like the government should probably not be this involved in what they deem to be online versions of bullying. And yet there is sort of a well-intentioned aspect of thinking that, and I really think the parents could be the ones doing this, penalizing your kid by not letting them drive a vehicle or have a driver's license because they're being a jerk to other people online or worse than that. But here's a little bit of how Outnumbered talked about this topic. You are a big fan of this.
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I am a fan of this because we've done so many stories where it leads to suicide. Bullying can lead to suicide. And this includes cyberbullying. And I'm sure they'd have to prove it goes to the extreme because we all like freedom of speech. But yet, if it's harassing someone, if it's putting someone at risk and their life in danger, then I'm all in favor of this. I think it holds people accountable. And these teenagers need to know you can't do this. You're going to lose your privilege to drive. And that's a big deal for teenagers.
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Yes. It is. Actually, I'll pause it right there for just a second, and I am going to react to the thing she said of substance, but it's actually not. I know a lot of teen kids now. That's a weird way to say that. I know a lot of parents of teenage kids now who say that their kid doesn't care about driving, that it's very different than my generation or generations before me. I'm an older millennial, close to the Gen X generation. People desperately wanted a driver's license. For my childhood and the childhoods of my parents, my grandparents, everyone I know. But younger people today care more about being on social media platforms or, you know, hanging out late at night, playing video games in their room. I'm not saying that all of them don't care about a driver's license, but for some reason, a lot of them don't. But the overarching problem here remains the same. The idea, again, that government officials can start to moderate your social media posts and determine at what point they become something that they don't like and then refer to that as bullying or cyberbullying or whatever else. Now, granted, Tennessee is less likely to go as rogue as, say, New York would or California on this issue. But there are reasons to dislike it. Here's a little bit more on Fox from Outnumbered talking about it. Okay.
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For New Yorkers, we take a taxi.
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Well, in Jersey, we just drive fast.
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Some of us, not everybody.
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Paul?
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No, I don't drive fast. I don't even own a car. So anyway, I did a couple things to tease out here. First of all, the law exists already. This is just an added penalty, and you have to be of driving age, right? But they actually have this for younger ages as well who can't drive yet. So the metric becomes what happens when, by the way, Tennessee doesn't have a minimum age for criminal responsibility. So if you're 12 years old, you're getting charged with an A misdemeanor. That could be life-changing. Wow. hope that it's applied with you know judiciously right so here's another way i hope it's it's applied this is a red state past this tennessee so more power to them because i agree and so this kind of thing that's long overdue considering the impact of bullying what happens we get teachers bullying students let's say on trans issues and things like that because that is bullying we've seen all kinds of cases like that i bet you we get a case where the parents say My kid's being bullied into a curriculum he or she doesn't want. Now, we've had that big SCOTUS decision. It'll take a while for that thing to devolve down. So this thing is going to have to get used. They're going to have to bang it up a little bit to get it working.
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I do like when anybody says, you've got to bang this up. You've got to fix it a little bit. You've got to enhance it a little more. But I think that's a tremendous question. uh... from uh... some of the individuals on outnumbered uh... not just the lawyer who's talking there uh... but the types of things that would potentially be considered bullying and how they'll be handled by the government because it's a slippery slope it's a difficult uh... in general bridge for people to to cross and you don't wanna see the things that you're seeing in places like the UK our people are being arrested for what they're saying on social media across the board and a lot of anti-government things winding up being a things that people are charged significant crimes with I'm not saying that in the intent at a Tennessee again as pointed out a red state that seems to believe a whole lot in free speech and what not However, it would be the intent of someone else copying this law and doing it somewhat differently, or even some of the people who would be executing the law in certain parts of any state, even red ones. So again, I'm skeptical, and in a lot of ways, not exactly thrilled, but still happy at the idea of protecting kids. But it should just be the parents that are doing that. They should be the ones responsible for preventing this behavior in the first place. Unfortunately, a whole lot of them don't, which is why this story exists at all.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in, and it is time for a Quick Five. Five topics we're going to do in rapid succession. The Royal Train is being retired. King Charles says that he wants to retire the iconic, quote, Palace on Wheels, something that was beloved by Queen Elizabeth because it cost too much money in 2025 to have a ridiculous train that is a Palace on Wheels. And there's easier ways to get around it. You can fly anywhere you want if you're the king. So, yes, he's going to be doing that. And some people, I'm not sure many people, I don't even know how many people in the United States even care about this, but I found it entertaining for sure. We'll not miss it at all, mostly because we weren't allowed to ride on it. Maybe they should turn the palace on wheels into a thing that the commoner can ride around in throughout Europe. And then maybe it would make money instead of lose tremendous amounts of it. I doubt it, but who knows? Another story out there that will do rapid fire. Can cheese turn your dreams into nightmares? The answer is sort of. Your gut actually plays a bigger role in your dreams than just a specific food you eat. But if you have an unhappy gut, specifically if you have things like lactose intolerances that you deal with, you're more likely to have nightmares. according to the internet and a psychological study, which just seems unfair. If you're already struggling in the world of eating certain foods and having certain bathroom issues, then going to sleep and having, you know, Freddy Krueger and his friends torment you, that just seems like kicking you when you're down, if I'm being honest. At least that's the way I feel about it. But it is true, apparently. So get your gut right, and then you won't have that horrible nightmare of falling and then waking up before you hit the pavement. I'm assuming. I don't know. Waffle houses are dropping their eggs surcharge. This was actually a viral story a bunch of places. Waffle houses have been charging an extra 50 cents for eggs. This has been happening since February. And they put up on social media that they're sorry and that it's over. It's actually egg-cellent news, according to them. I like and hate a good pun. That was a little bit of both. But yeah, apparently, this is something that a whole lot of people are excited about because you're paying 50 less cents when you go to the Waffle House, witness a fight you didn't expect to see, and then also enjoy some breakfast. Honestly, living in Texas now, in Houston, Waffle House after 10 o'clock is... is a different experience than before 10 p.m. If you go in at night for the 24-hour Waffle House, you're going to see some things, things you'll probably never unsee. All right, another story out there that I thought was interesting. A judge has okayed the sale of 23andMe. More important than the website itself or the service itself is the trove of DNA data that the company owns. Who did they sell it to? A nonprofit led by its founder that is very much intent on selling all of the data in ways different than 23andMe told you they'd ever sell the data. Shocking. This seems crazy, but the highest bidder of the genetic information company was, in fact, the dude who started the company who has close ties to pharmaceutical industries. So, yes, the thing that you thought was going to happen. when you purchased your online dna test and then sent your dna to a company is now happening more so that it was it probably was happening the whole time but now they're not even pretending it's not happening they're selling your data and then that data is going to wind up other places i'm glad i never did 23 and mate i was tempted It sounded like learning more about myself and, you know, the history of my family was the kind of thing that I wouldn't get without doing a DNA test. But it just felt weird to send that off to a unknown organization. So I never did it, even when it was like cheap online and it was discounted on things like Amazon Prime Day. And again, I'm proud of myself and hopefully you're proud of yourself, too, if you resisted. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A whole bunch of stuff to talk about. Penn Athletics has decided to go ahead and rescind a whole bunch of the awards that a man won while swimming for a female swim team. This is something that's caused a lot of people to be very happy. Paula Scanlon, one of those individuals who was on the women's swim team at University of Pennsylvania, spoke at the White House about how great this is for her and for a lot of other people and how it restores a competitive fairness to women's athletics to not have people who are guys, biologically, defeat women that literally cannot biologically compete against them. That seemed to be bad. It took a while for us to get here, but we finally got here as a society.
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That's the first thing I have to say about this. How many years of progress this is just fixing. There's so many women I'm looking at in this room that have fought so hard for so many years on this issue. And I'm grateful to be alongside many of you today. But more than anything, I am grateful for this administration for taking this so seriously. I have quite literally gotten exactly what they voted for. And so I can't start.
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People start applauding, going crazy. She says she quite literally got exactly what she wanted when she punched the ticket for the certain individual that she punched it for when she voted Trump. That is great. It's great news. Honestly, it's great news for anybody who's a parent of a kid, a girl that was competing in sports that was worried that at some point they were going to be unfair to her. It is insane. And I'll just say this quickly because I don't want to belabor a point that you've probably heard a whole lot about in a whole lot of different ways by people other than myself. But it is insane that the left and how woke they are and how crazy they are about so many things essentially allowed for women's sports to be somewhat destroyed, if not entirely destroyed, by individuals that were not in fact women that competed against women in these sports. That seemed to be the kind of thing the left would be up in arms about if they didn't have some sort of excuse to be on the wrong side of that issue. But it's finally changing, at least for now. You hope for good. And again, I want to be completely clear. And if you think that my compassion is weakness, that's fine. I don't care if that's how you interpret it. I would like people that feel as though they're not men to compete in some kind of sport in school. Certainly, I want these to be adults before they biologically do anything to change themselves. But I don't want it to be in women's sports. I think there could be some other version of competition that allowed men, women, and... whoever else thinks they're a part of, you know, society to compete because I do like the idea of everyone being able to participate in sports if they're talented enough at any level, not at just the highest levels, professional or college or whatnot, but at any level. So I'm not trying to say that if you're someone that fits into one of these categories that's not allowed to compete in female sports anymore, that you're not allowed to compete in sports at all. Ideally, you'd probably compete in male athletics if you're biologically a male. But I also would be fine with competing in something other than female athletics. Even if a lot of people weren't in it and if we didn't even really pay attention to it. But if there was some other sort of division that people were allowed to compete in, that's fine. And I know that it's something that some people say like it's weak or you're appeasing society or whatnot. Now, I honestly think that it's the exact opposite of that. Personally, I think it's demonstrating that I actually care about protecting female athletics. And beyond that, you do you, especially if you're an adult human. And again, I just imagine it will be completely not popular as far as the sport goes. If it's two or three total people that are competing in some sort of athletic competition throughout the entire country, because I don't know that you'd have a massive amount of individuals that would flood into this, whatever you call it,
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In this episode of The Dana Show, guest host Craig Collins dives into the complex world of political rhetoric surrounding immigration policies in the United States. From discussions on Alligator Alcatraz to critiques of prominent media personalities, the episode uncovers how narratives are shaped and often distorted in the political arena. With insightful commentary and analysis, Craig challenges the conventional views and brings to light the nuanced reality of immigration enforcement and policy-making.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about out there in the world. Dana Lash is found all over the place. DLash, Dana Lash Radio on X, on Twitter. Some of the best ways to stay connected to her and everything going on with this show. Producer Steven does a great job of putting a whole bunch of stuff on social media, so find her wherever. All right, let's talk about a bunch of things. I am very much intent to talk about Alligator Alcatraz at some point in the show, mostly because of the way that liberals are crazy about it. I think Joy Reid has probably the take of all takes, not just about Alligator Alcatraz itself, but also I think the way in which people that are not legally in this country are being removed from this country and what she wants you to believe it is, not what it actually is. Before I get to any of that, I do think this is interesting. It went viral a little bit earlier today. Bill Melugin of Fox News said that a producer at Fox asked L.A. Mayor Karen Bass earlier this morning if she would be willing to meet with ICE and if there were a deal to be made within that city and that organization, that government operation. Bass showed her stupidity in her answer. The first thing she said is that ICE was not welcome and they needed to go home, but she would have no interest in meeting them. Here's the problem. The ICE agents that she would meet with would live in California. They would live specifically very close to L.A. or in L.A. because they live in the places they work. This is not the kind of thing where ICE agents would be shipped in from somewhere else. They would have people, it's a federal organization, that live all throughout the nation that work there and live there. So when they would go home... they would go to the place that she's in. But even more so than that, the crazy part about saying I'm not going to meet with them or you're not welcome here or whatever else it might be is essentially I'm also going to skirt any sort of law federally that I'd have to follow. This is something that caused Stephen Miller specifically to respond and say this kind of sounds like insurrection talk. And it does. I think that he's right about that. I think that the version of, you know, having that kind of conversation and for some reason, Democrats right now, the left, the crazy guy out of New York, as I keep referring to Mamdani, because to me, he's just actually insane. And I can't believe that even a place as far left as New York would potentially actually choose this person to be their mayor. But that seems to be the road they're going down. But even he said recently that he would fight Trump and ICE if he were given the opportunity to do it. And Trump then made a comment that, well, if he's throwing ICE agents in jail, we're probably going to throw him in jail, which was fantastic. And that happened yesterday, too. But this is the MO for Democrats right now to say out loud into a microphone the craziest, most nonsense thing you can. And then when the ICE agents actually show up, swing the door wide open because, you know, it would be a crime not to. And that's usually how you actually handle the real world. And this, honestly, is the way that the left does a bunch of things. You see this all the time. The words never match the actions. The words are always much stronger than the actions themselves, which is why so few people need to pay attention to the words. Case in point might be this. Joy Reid recently said about Stephen Miller and about the alligator Alcatraz facility and all the things going on with people who are not legally in this country. that are finally having the law uh... used against them to remove them from this country she claims that is a quota a quota of three thousand brown people a day needing to get arrested regardless of if you have legal or illegal status she's trying to make this a race thing and they're not allowed to be here legally thing, which is what's actually happening. By the way, people that look like me, I'm a white guy, are also getting arrested if they're here illegally, if they're from China or anywhere else, and they don't have brown skin, they have white skin, they're also being deported and sent to other places. That is happening. Joy Reid refuses to believe that. Here we go.
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But this aggressive move to deport any brown or black person that this regime can get their hands on in order to meet Stephen Miller's 3000 brown person a day quota. They have a literal quota that ICE is required to meet. which is the reason why they are stopping and frisking brown, particularly brown people, but brown and black people anywhere they can get them. Dodger Stadium, the parking lot at Disneyland, at restaurants, Home Depot.
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Be afraid is what she wants to yell into the microphone and understand that Republicans and ICE agents are just racist. That's just all they are. It doesn't matter that the law they're trying to enforce is a real one and people who aren't here illegally aren't allowed to stay. That's not important. I want you to believe that people are walking around yelling to themselves, I don't want people that aren't white to stay in this country, which is insane and not at all what's happening. But that's the only way they win these arguments. The only way the left can convince their own gullible people, or whatever you want to call them, that they're fighting the good fight and the other side is the bad guy, is to change the narrative, is to move it from... We want people that don't have the right to be here to not be allowed to stay anymore. And honestly, I love when people get mad at this, what I'm about to say, because it is true. And if you knew anyone or know anyone that's ever been in a situation where they don't have the rights necessary to fight back if, say, something bad is happening to them, then you know how important this next statement is people should want to be here legally they shouldn't want to be here in an illegal sense and the best way to fix this whole system is to remove everyone that's here illegally that is being taken advantage of to a degree if they're working a job for under minimum wage and all that kind of stuff and then if we can't actually fill those positions with legal citizens who already live here there's already a system in place that would allow a company to get a visa for someone to move into this country even in the world of agriculture and start doing that job if the narrative the democrats told you was true and americans wouldn't work jobs if they were given you know actual working conditions to do them in and not again taking advantage of people who don't have the right to be here if that all occurred it would get better for all involved And then people would again have a pathway to citizenship that they would come through legal channels from the start and not actually be here in a way that is illegal. All of that's factual. None of that is politically on a certain side of the aisle or the other. To be honest, some of it's certainly not popular on the right to talk about. And yet I just said it all because that's the thing that the left doesn't want you to believe in the position of a conservative. is that if you fix the system so that no one was here illegally anymore, and as Democrats love to claim, no one would pick our food anymore, whatever crazy thing they say, then we would adjust. We would self-adjust at that point, not to swing the gate back open and let people in illegally, but allow for people to come in legally and work jobs and have rights because those jobs should have that level of ability or that level of protection between them. All right, another thing I thought was interesting, As I mentioned, alligator Alcatraz all over social media and being talked about a lot. President Trump went to Florida. He was with Governor DeSantis talking about this facility in Florida that sounds like a really crappy jail. However, I want to remind people. It's also a jail. Jails are not supposed to be fun. Anyone that says it would be horrible to have a jail this scary or in this bad of a place or this difficult to escape from seems to not understand the point of prison. which is, again, to be a place that you don't want to go and you behave so that you're not sent there. Here is President Trump and Governor DeSantis talking about Alcatraz and also talking about the important initiative of allowing Florida National Guardsmen to act as immigration judges to speed up the deportation process, something DeSantis wants, that Trump's okay with, and it sounds like Pam Bondi is going to be very on board with, as DeSantis would know, having worked with her closely in Florida. Here's a little bit of that audio.
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This is we're offering up our National Guard and other folks in Florida to be deputized to be immigration judges. We're working with the Department of Justice for the approvals. I'm sure Pam will approve. But then you have I'll have a National Guard judge advocate here. Someone has a notice to appear. Biden would tell him to come back in three years and appear. Now you'll be able to appear in like a day or two. So they're not going to be detained, hopefully, for all that long. We'll have people here in this facility that can make, you know, it's a bureaucracy. The president's got to deal with the bureaucracy. Now, that Supreme Court ruling was good because that's going to allow him to be able to exercise Article 2 the way founders intended. But you still have bureaucracy. So we want to cut through that so that we have an efficient operation between Florida and DHS to get the removal of these illegals done.
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I love that Trump is just nodding his head yes the whole time that DeSantis is saying this because this would be good. You want to process things more quickly. You want to come up with a system that actually works well, which is something that DeSantis is uniquely good at in government. The behind-the-scenes operations of government is where DeSantis truly shines, and this is another example of that. And Trump is like, yeah, go ahead, do it. Get all these things done. Get them done quickly. The government can operate efficiently. How dare you? Who would possibly believe or say that? One last thing. and this was amusing to me uh... maria shriver of all people who claims to be an open-minded journalist i'm not sure that that actually uh... plays itself out in reality based on the thing she said is quote very upset heartbroken in fact because paramount is gonna pay president trump sixteen million dollars or at least they're gonna pay his library uh... sixteen million bucks because of the way they deceptively edited the kamala harris interview during the campaign season this is the second organization to make a deal with Trump and his legal team in order to not go through some sort of discovery process. That's all this is. All of these companies desperately do not want to have what happened to Fox News and the Dominion lawsuit to happen to them. Meaning that you get to look at all the emails, look at all the phone calls, anything that you could have records on and see the way in which people were communicating with each other, specifically the way these news organizations communicate with Democratic politicians, which is something I desperately want. I wish... that these lawsuits weren't getting settled. I wish that there was no number that could be thrown at President Trump and his team that would allow them to say, all right, fine, we'll settle out of court for this. I wish they could just keep blazing the trail toward being in a courtroom because I want discovery, baby. I want to hear, I want to see. The way in which these producers, these hosts, everyone at places like CBS, etc., talk to people like Kamala Harris and how different it is than the way they potentially talk to President Trump or anyone on the conservative side of the aisle. Because that's the real story to me. Not necessarily that they're not going to say they're sorry, they're not going to issue an apology, but they're going to send a whole bunch of money in a direction that certainly makes them seem guilty of something. But that is a real story out there. And as I said, Maria Shriver, of all people, went viral for saying that she was heartbroken that mainstream media is being penalized for the way in which they're behaving or something to that effect. Again, incredibly open-minded, at least by her own description. All right, we'll take a break. A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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That's right, this is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. It is time for a rapid-fire quick five, as Dana does every single day on this program. Really a lot of fun. The P. Diddy case has reached a verdict. I feel like I could have done this for longer than a quick five, but darn it, I'll do it here. The crazy thing, they found him guilty of the prostitution charges, which carry a sentence of up to 20 years in jail, but they acquitted him of all of the more serious, racketeering, you know, RICO case type of charges. Decent news, as weird as it is to say that in a courtroom earlier today by only being found guilty of prostitution and not the more serious sex trafficking and additional crimes that he was facing. He could have had life in prison as the likely sentence. The judge dismissed everyone deciding what bail would be, mostly because Diddy can afford a whole lot of money. So are you going to give him a bail at all or not? And then eventually we'll decide when sentencing will occur. But P. Diddy would be facing a maximum of 20 years of life, 20 years in prison, not life in jail, which is what he was experiencing, what he was facing, essentially, if he was found guilty of more things. Other quick five stories out there. U.S. auto sales have slowed in June. I uniquely am familiar with this because I recently bought a car and it is terrible buying a car. Used cars are insanely expensive, but at least things might start going the right way. It'd be nice if Jerome Powell listened to anything that President Trump was saying and lowered some sweet, sweet interest rates. The more cars would actually be sold and more houses would be purchased, etc., etc., which is not happening because interest rates are way too high and the economy is doing great. By the way, another quick five topic, which is pretty awesome. Gas prices are at a tremendous low right now. The lowest they've been since, I think, early 2021. Man, what's going on? What could possibly have been an impact between President Trump and the things that he's done in office and the things that Biden was doing in office that went after oil and gas companies and energy and caused everything to be so expensive? It's almost like we all know the answer, and I don't even need to say it, but this is absolutely true that gas prices are down at a perfect time of year just before a lot of people travel for the holiday. Yay us is what we're supposed to say to that. By the way, another quick five story that I like. is the things that are necessary for a perfect 4th of July party. There are four of them, according to the internet. Classic barbecue food. You gotta have the hot dogs and hamburgers. Maybe some barbecue chicken. You don't need to go too rogue. You don't need to go off of the path of what is working in the world of barbecue and 4th of July. You need great music. You need some outdoor games. We'll be right back. You're not making it to the upper echelon of parties in our community. I'm not sure I agree with that, but I do love the fact that it's out there. I would say you also need to do that responsibly. People need to keep all their fingers. Unfortunately, this time of year, a whole lot of people do not because you're letting Uncle Bill do the fireworks when Uncle Bill should be nowhere near them and should not be blowing anything up, in fact. And by the way, one other quick story, which we might get to later. There was a a firework factory in California that lit on fire and blew up. And there's a video about it. It's viral. The craziest part of the video is how sadly entertaining it is to see fireworks exploding at the beginning and after the facility is destroyed. That's the kind of thing we need more of in this society when we demo anything. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. D. Lash, Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected to all things going on for her. Very active social media human and very active radio. You know, very famous person, Dana Lash. Thrilled to be on her show, actually, in all honesty. The one big, beautiful bill. was something I didn't talk about yet today, but you can't not talk about it. The House now gets their opportunity to pass the version of the bill that the Senate created. They carved out some things that don't make a lot of people happy. Representatives like Chip Roy, who's on the show a lot, have said that it's definitely not the kind of bill that he would have wanted to support, and it's the kind of bill that's doing a lot of spending we shouldn't be doing. And I really admire a Chip Roy. in all honesty, and I love talking to that guy whenever I fill in on the show and get a chance to talk to him, because he's right. He's obviously right, that there's a whole bunch of excess spending that we don't want in this bill. There's a lot of tax cuts, tax cuts not just for everyday Americans, but for organizations, for a whole bunch of groups and people, and honestly, hopefully, that actually creates the thing that President Trump and his administration is saying it will, which is a deep investment in The business of the United States by U.S. businesses creating more jobs here, creating more products here, essentially becoming something that we haven't been in a very long time because of how financially beneficial it would be. But as far as the deficit is concerned, it certainly throws that price tag about as high up as possible. So there's a lot of reasons. to not be thrilled about the inevitable passing of this bill which i think it will pass the big beautiful bill will pass the house it will become a thing that gets signed into law a mostly because republicans have control of uh... house the senate and the white house and if they don't get anything done in that time period that's a tremendous failure in the world of politics how we i'll live them today and so even if you are and i am skeptical or upset with some of the excess spending that exists here The better than nothing version of talking about something feels to be the way that a bunch of Republicans will eventually swallow their dissenting voice and vote yes on this thing. Stephen Miller is out there complaining about Elon Musk, though. This is uniquely interesting, the way this conversation and this relationship has absolutely fallen apart. And in the backdrop of this, I will say that today there was a news story about how Tesla is selling better in China and Chinese social media platforms are praising Elon Musk and his anti-Trump rants recently or the things he's been saying about the big, beautiful bill and whatnot because China doesn't like Trump. And the reason they don't like Trump is we actually treat China the way they deserve to be treated. And we don't give in to them in all kinds of ways that make things horrible for us and great for them, which is what Biden and other politicians do. So China's embracing of Elon Musk and Elon Musk may be realizing that's going to help him sell vehicles there when sales here in the United States are down may be the whole reason. that there's all this crazy drama and fighting. But Stephen Miller pulled no punches, saying that Elon Musk, by not backing the big, beautiful bill, is essentially all for the invasion of illegal aliens into the United States of America.
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To oppose this bill is to support the invasion. To oppose this bill is to support the continued giveaways and freebies to cheaters and scam artists. To oppose this bill is to support a 68% tax hike on the American public. And it's also to oppose this bill is to support a deprivation of all of the tax benefits that President Trump is fighting to deliver the middle class, like no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime. The Senate passed this bill just today demonstrating that they are fighting for President Trump. They are fighting for his agenda. They are not going to listen to an outside voice that does not represent the interests of the American people or the interests of the Republican Party. And the House is going to rally behind President Trump to pass this bill for America.
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We will see if that happens. We will see if he's right about that. I will say that Elon Musk's voice is for himself. It's not necessarily for the American people. He is, I think, most upset that this bill doesn't include provisions that allow him to keep getting sweet, sweet sales. of electric vehicles because they give us heavy tax incentives to buy those vehicles. I think that's what Elon is actually most mad about in the big beautiful bill, not all the excess spending. If he had the continued tax cuts for people buying green vehicles in there, he probably would be someone who was shutting up right now. But nonetheless, when Stephen Miller also references the deep amounts of fraud that exist in other parts of government spending, he's talking specifically about medicaid and medicare and the way that mainstream media will tell you this story works and i want to be clear about this i'm sure you've heard this before at this point i doubt this is new information but that multi billion dollar fraud scheme that just the other day was publicly acknowledged by the DOJ. $14.6 billion in healthcare fraud going through Medicaid and Medicare, a whole lot of doctors, organizations within the United States, but it gets seedier than that. There's like Russian operatives, Chinese operatives, all involved in this crazy giant thing. Putting into that system More checks and balances, more hurdles to jump, like proving that you're not a abled body American who's not trying to get a job. If you're someone who's capable of working and refusing to work, you don't get any freebies. But if you're someone who's capable of working and trying to work, then you could essentially still qualify for Medicaid and Medicare. That's not actually a cut. It's an assumed cut because we're thinking a whole lot of people are benefiting, and $14.6 billion in fraud cases this year seem to represent exactly how many people are gaming this system, or a decent chunk of what is probably a much larger amount of fraud and abuse. Nonetheless, if everybody that is getting this help qualifies in the new world they're creating, then we wouldn't spend any less money on it. It's the assumption that we're going to get a tax break or we're going to get a spending break of some kind because a whole lot of people are using this incorrectly, using it in a horrible way that we expect that to be true. And again, that's right at the surface of these conversations because of the DOJ investigation that uncovered this stuff. I love when people in mainstream media places pretend the truth isn't true. And I don't know how to say that differently because that's exactly what it is. They go on television. The Joy Reads, the idiots of the world who say whatever they want to say. They scream and yell stuff that makes absolutely no sense. And then at the end of it, they close the microphone and say, hey, good job, me. And they realize that anyone can fact check them very simplistically and find out everything they're saying is crazy and insane. And they don't care. Now, whatever. It'll be fine. I'll go ahead and do this over here. That's how they're behaving about a lot of this. AOC, by the way, talked specifically about the no tax on tips part of this deal with the devil. And she's very upset about the big, beautiful bill. But Democrats can't be anti the failing to tax overtime and the failing to tax tipping because these benefit a whole lot of Americans that Democrats assume would vote for them. So AOC ranting. on the House floor today about how this is unacceptable, even if it is, again, something that would help a whole lot of Americans and is wildly popular with the American people.
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On this point of tax on tips, as one of the only people in this body who has lived off of tips, I want to tell you a little bit about the scam of that tax, a little bit of the fine print there. The cap on that is $25,000. while you're jacking up taxes on people who make less than $50,000 across the United States, while taking away their SNAP, while taking away their Medicaid, while kicking them off of the ACA and their healthcare extensions. So if you're at home and you're living off tips, you do the math.
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Here's the thing. None of what she said was true. I love that version of this. You could still qualify for all those things that she said they're taking away from you as long as you can jump through the new hurdles, the very reasonable, very easy hurdles I think that Americans who fall into these categories would be capable of jumping through. And a lot of the restrictions don't even involve people who have kids. By the way, you actually have to be a single adult for many of the restrictions in Medicaid and Medicare to wind up being relevant anyway. Otherwise, the system's really not changing at all. If you're the parent of a younger child, you're not going to have to deal with anything changing whatsoever, which AOC failed to mention in her rant over there. But the other thing that's crazy about this, when she says it's capped, How dare you think that you can get anything other than this amount of money off of tips and other things. You are getting paid a salary if you work somewhere. It's not just tips. That's not the only way that you make money because, darn it, there are laws that make you have to get paid something beyond the tip money. And I love the fact that she's behaving as though when the liars keep lying that they're really just fighting for you. And they're really just fighting for the things that matter most to you. And I love also the fact that she said... She's one of the only people in that room that has lived off tips because I'm not sure that I would call it tips, but a whole lot of people have Wall Street tips that they live off of to make the billions and millions of dollars that they seem to make in the government. People like Nancy Pelosi would definitely be living off of a different version of tips in my mind. And AOC likes to lie about stuff in her own personal experience. She grows up in fancy parts of upstate New York and claims that she's a girl from the Bronx who's just struggled her whole life to make a living, which is inherently untrue. But again, just to go back to it, AOC is absolutely telling you a fib, a lot of them actually. when she's saying that all these things are getting taken away and taxes are going up for you and everything's going to be terrible if you're working middle class or working not exactly even qualifying in the middle class as far as your income is concerned. These things are, in fact, lies. And they matter. But darn it, that's the only way to win for Democrats in these sort of back-and-forth debates is to tell you things that they think you'll care about regardless of how likely those things are to be things you even believe, which is nuts. And honestly, I'll say one last thing about this before I take a break. This is what makes arguing with a family member or friend about politics infuriating. When you hear the talking point that the politician shared in the very disingenuous way on whatever platform they were on that your friend or relative consumed it on, and then they say it back to you, and you look at them and you say, you know, that's not true. And you even prove to them it's not true. In today's society, a whole bunch of people become skeptical of you, the person they know. the person that's not trying to lie to them the way the politician would, and they assume the politician, who obviously lies to them all the time, is more likely to have told them the truth. That drives me crazy. I have friends and family members who are hardcore on a side of the aisle I'm not on, that when I tell them just a simple fact, I'm like, look, I don't even want to argue all this. I don't want to dive down this rabbit hole with you. I just want you to make sure that you look this part up and find out how it's not true. And their reaction is like, ah, whatever. You're just lying to me. I'm not even going to try. And that's insane. But there are people in our society who exist that just hear the talking point and accept it as accurate and just live their life with that being their new normal. And it sucks. I don't know how else to say it, but it's definitely awful. All right, we have a holiday, so we're going to have fun on the show as much as we can. A holiday coming up. We're also doing the important things that you need. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected to all things going on for her. She will be back just after the holiday. Thrilled to be in with you for a couple days here on this show. Should we ban left turns? That was a real question, a real comment made by a professor at Penn State that said that a whole lot of accidents happen because of the left turn. And actually, this is true. 40% of all crashes happen in intersections. 60% of those crashes happen because someone was making a left. The proposal would be either some version hybrid like New Jersey, where you have that quote-unquote off-ramp or elbow that you actually turn right onto before then turning left, not within the intersection itself, or just no left turns a whole lot of places. You got to make boxes. to the right to get around. Reverse version of NASCAR as far as things go. This guy thinks it's a great idea. A whole lot of the rest of us think it's a horrible idea because darn it, I want to get where I'm going and I want to turn left to do that. But I do love that at least this question is out there. More places, especially busy places, should we stop turning left? That is a real thing and at least one academic says yes while the whole rest of society for the most part is saying no. Another story out there that I thought was interesting, and this is just a weird piece of audio. I think Keith Urban, the famous person who's in this audio, is claiming that what people think happened didn't happen, meaning he didn't hang up on a local Australian music station during an awkward back-and-forth question that was asked by one of the hosts. You be the judge on whether or not Keith Urban just full-on hung up when asked a question. that feels awkward but you kind of think a lot of people would be asking it of this individual in the person he's married to you in the amount of movies and the court kidman does where she gets barely intimate with uh... younger men uh... and to a degree that maybe the husband wouldn't exactly enjoy here's the of viral audio again people are claiming that are close to keep urban he didn't hang up that somehow something else happened a disconnection somebody else's fault it's heterogeneous era It sounds a whole lot like, to me, he just hung up on this call.
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The first thing I thought of with your beautiful wife, Nicole Kidman, being on so many great movies, TV shows all the time. I watched a movie with her and Zac Efron recently, Family Affair. That's a good one. What does Keith Urban think when he sees his beautiful wife with beautiful younger men like Zac Efron having these beautiful love scenes on TV and radio? Oh, why has that happened? It's just happened to you.
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He's disconnected from Zoom. Did he just hang up on us? I think his team hung up on us because they didn't want us to ask that question.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure they hung up on you. And if they told you beforehand, hey, don't ask any questions about the people that Nicole Kidman is fake sleeping with in movies and TV shows, and then they asked that question anyway, Keith might have been like, let's just end this thing. There's no good answer from a Keith Urban, by the way, to that type of question, because if you admit the truth as a husband, you're not exactly thrilled to see this. You somehow impact her professional acting career in a way you probably don't want to. But if you also lie and you're like, that's fine. It's all just fake. It doesn't matter to me at all. A whole lot of people who know that that's a lie, including maybe even your wife, Nicole Kidman, might feel differently about you. They might judge Keith Urban for his inability to tell the truth in that moment. So again, there's just no good answer. If you're a person who's famous, whose wife is famous, who does a lot of sexually, you know, focused movies without them being actual, you know, in the sense of she's not doing porn. I don't know how to say it differently, so I'm just going to say it for what it is. But she is doing a lot of stuff that's very risque in the world of what it is. A lot of R-rated, you know, crazy kind of things. I would not be thrilled if I was Keith Urban married to Nicole Kidman, who is an attractive lady. I would not be thrilled. that there's so many roles that she takes that all have the same thing. I'd be like, when is Disney coming along? You want to do a movie that's not at all about this? That would be my goal. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. DLash, DanaLashRadio on X on Twitter if you want to stay connected to all things that she's up to. And she will be back just after the holidays. Well-deserved vacation for a very successful, very famous human being, Dana Lash. Nancy Mace went viral because, and honestly, a portion of this is believable. A whole lot of it seems performative. I am a fan of Nancy Mace. I also find her attractive. I'm just going to put that stuff out there. So I'm not exactly sad that she's viral for pajama videos that she put up on social media. And I'll explain that in a second. But nonetheless, what I think is really interesting about this, is that people were delayed via flights back to D.C. A lot of politicians. This is something that Republicans were uniquely talking about as they'd like to have everybody back ASAP today, essentially, to vote on the big, beautiful bill to get that thing passed so the president can sign it. Nancy Mace decided to road trip it. She said that she couldn't fly, that flights were down. So she hopped in, I think, a luxury bus. And then eventually she showed up at the Capitol building. And she has this video of her getting out of another very fancy vehicle from the back of it in her pajamas and then going into the Capitol building to vote on things. It's very performative. It's very producer. Stephen said this, and I thought it was pretty funny. Influencer energy type of stuff that she's giving out here. Again, I'm not exactly upset, though, because of all the politicians that could go viral for being in pajamas. Nancy Mace is toward the top of my list of people that I'd actually prefer that to be. There's a whole lot of people that I would hate it if they were going viral for the same thing. I know that's a guy answer to this and not necessarily a valuable political take, but I can't help it. It's what's in my mind, and I'm telling you about it. But here's a couple of the pieces of audio that go with the videos of Nancy looking like a person who's showing up to work with no time to get ready, no time to prepare herself. She's got to roll in with the luggage and the pajamas because, darn it, I've got to get things done. The door is slowly opening. There's the Nancy man.
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8.45? 8.52? We made it an hour ago to the vote.
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By the way, to have people standing outside of the van taking video as you pop out and pretend to not know what time it is, is uniquely hilarious. There's a video of her walking down the hallway, trying to get ready to vote with the luggage and the backside of the pajamas going. Here we go. Nancy Mace's dog was walking with her down the hallway and seemed to know exactly what door was Nancy's office. People were proud of that. Again, this is performative. It's annoying. It's all the things I dislike about politicians. But if I'm going to give anybody the shadow of the doubt, the benefit of the doubt, Lauren Boebert and Nancy Mace can go viral in pajamas. I'm fine with that. All right. Other things out there. I wonder how the take would differ if it were Dana who was on today instead of me. I'm a pig of a human, I guess is what I'm saying. All right, Scott Jennings did some things on social media that I found very funny. He actually also often does some things on CNN that I find very amusing. Scott was in a back-and-forth argument with someone on CNN about whether or not the crazy dude from New York is what I'm going to keep branding him, but Zorhan Mondami is actually a communist. And by the way, the things he talks about, the politician who might wind up being the next mayor in New York, are full-on communism. He wants to buy up land and property through, you know, the city of New York. Even if people don't want to sell it to him, he wants to force them to do it. And then he wants to turn that into communal housing for other people. That's one of many crazy things he said that essentially means, hey, I want to be a communist and I want to run a communist city inside the United States. I want to take over production. I want to have my own grocery stores. I want to do crazy stuff. Here's the back and forth on CNN.
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But calling him a communist is not far off base when he talks about seizing the means of production. That is a communist party plank. He is talking about doing that. So I don't have any problem with calling him what he is. And I don't have any problem calling Donald Trump a felon. or charges of rape, or the fact that he doesn't pay his vendors, or the fact that he's racist because he got... So I don't have any problem. And you're right. And you know what? You may have a democratic socialist elected as mayor of New York City. No, you agree with Pete that he is a communist? He's not a communist. He's a socialist. He said seize the means of production.
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He's a socialist. He is not a communist. I'm not a socialist.
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He's using the language of the Bolsheviks, is he not? No, he's not. He's a socialist, not a communist.
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Yeah, he is. He's using the language of the Bolsheviks for sure. He's using a whole lot of language, I would say, a little bit differently. I would change the words to that and something I'm not allowed to say on radio that sounds like Bolsheviks. It just is different. All right. What I think is great about this, though, and the other talking head who said that, of course, he's a communist before the Democrats got all mad. uh... is the idea that an individual could blaze a trail in a place like new york or anywhere else and that it's going to convince a lot of other democrats that that's a winning narrative winning message anywhere else and the the fact you immediately flip it to trump if you feel like you're losing a conversation on the left you immediately have to somehow focus on Trump. And Trump, by the way, his felony cases are ridiculous. They are insane. Almost any legal expert going into those cases in New York said there's no way you turn misdemeanors into felonies. But I digress. Who cares? That's what they want to go with. That's how they want to talk. It's very easy to then, by those standards, call the crazy dude out of New York a communist. They just don't want to say it. But it is insane, and it's terrifying a little bit. If I'm going to hang on this topic for one more second before moving on to something else, or I guess one more minute, if that's how long it's going to be, it's uniquely something that I'm afraid of. that more and more young people will be attracted to a narrative that is absolutely communism by any stretch of the imagination it's just referred to as something else democratic socialism is all this is even if you want to do all the things that inherently you know a byproduct of of uh... communism And that people would be like, why don't we do that? Why don't we live that? I don't think that the United States as a whole would ever stop being a constitutional republic. I just think that those winning messages, at least in places as crazy as New York City, are the most dangerous thing going on in our political world right now. More dangerous than anything else. Any version of Trump was mean to this politician pales in comparison to people are propping up ideas that get closer and closer to us being a communist society, a society in which a whole bunch of people will definitely not thrive because anywhere in the world where communism exists, guess what also exists? Incredible amounts of poverty and a whole bunch of elite politicians like we have already in our country who take all the money and who keep all the money and who own all of industry. And that's, I don't know, bad? Bad is what I would go with here. All right, another thing that I thought was interesting, as far as just shifting gears, Democrats aged 18 to 49 were asked, who do you sympathize with more, Israel or Palestine? And they are actually comparing this on CNN, this data point from 2017 and today, and how likely you are as a young person to say that you side with the Palestinians or effectively side with the terrorist group Hamas in that ongoing conflict. This is kind of what I'm getting at when I talk about the other stuff and how young people specifically can be manipulated by narratives on social media and elsewhere to believe certain things with limited understandings of the discussions and the topics that they're now strongly opinionated on. But this is a pretty scary stat to go from 2017 to 2025 and have such a wide shift. And the amount of people who said they would have been supportive of Israeli positions that are now supportive of, again, Hamas positions. You can call it Palestine if you want. But truly, this is Hamas, the terrorist organization that runs, you know, the Palestinian strip that is hopefully in a very soon in a peace agreement with Israel. But here we go.
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Andrew Cuomo during the primary attacked Mondani as being insufficiently pro-Israel. I'm not quite sure the former governor understood how much the politics have changed around this issue among Democrats. What are we talking about here? All right. Who Democrats sympathize more with, Israelis or Palestinians? In 2017, the Democratic Party was a pro-Israeli party. Look at this. They sympathized with the Israelis by 13 points. More with the Israelis than the Palestinians. But look at this sea change. Now Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians by 43 points. Oh, my God. That is a change in the margin of 56 points over the course of just two weeks. eight years. So all of a sudden, it's the pro-Palestinian position that actually reigns supreme in democratic politics, not the Israeli position. And that is part of the reason why Mandani was able to do so well in this primary, because those attacks over Israel, simply put, did not ring true for Democrats. They're now on the side of the Palestinians, not the Israelis.
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And it gets even further again if they dive deeper into it. When you go 18 to 49, it goes from 14% pro-Israel to 57 points pro-Palestine. And this, again, is crazy. This is radicalizing of a party intentionally through... very specific, very controlled narratives that get you to believe things that simply you don't understand, that are far more complex than you want them to be. And Democrats are succeeding at some of the things they're doing here. That's why you then have Joy Reid going out there and saying that people are arresting brown and black people because they don't like brown and black people. Not because the people who are here illegally aren't allowed to stay in our country, and they're not just brown and black. There are white people getting arrested, too, from countries that have white people in them that aren't allowed to be here. But I digress. That's not a winning message. So they go to something else, they claim something else, and they assume that you're going to nod your head and say, all right, I'm the good guy because I want to vote for the Democrats, not the bad guy who wants this horrible stuff to happen in our society. But this is crazy. And again, it's just one example of something that continues to happen and continues to be a genuine problem, I think, moving forward with us having honest debate about anything. Tucker Carlson is famous for saying that the person who conjures more facts doesn't actually win an argument in today's society or in society just a few years ago. He said that he had tried it several times in his career and it didn't make him more successful and it didn't make the people he was arguing with agree with him. even though he was capable of using facts to prove his point, because that's where we're at now. Facts don't matter. Other things do. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five that's right this is the dana show my name is craig collins filling in and it is time for a quick five uh five topics we're going to do in rapid succession uh the royal train is being retired king charles says that he wants to retire the iconic quote palace on wheels something that was beloved by queen elizabeth because it cost too much money in 2025 to have a ridiculous train that is a palace on wheels and there's easier ways to get around You can fly anywhere you want if you're the king. So, yes, he's going to be doing that. And some people, I'm not sure many people, I don't even know how many people in the United States even care about this, but I found it entertaining for sure. We'll not miss it at all, mostly because we weren't allowed to ride on it. Maybe they should turn the palace on wheels into a thing that the commoner can ride around in throughout Europe. And then maybe it would make money instead of lose tremendous amounts of it. I doubt it, but who knows? Another story out there that will do rapid fire. Can cheese turn your dreams into nightmares? The answer is sort of. Your gut actually plays a bigger role in your dreams than just a specific food you eat. But if you have an unhappy gut, specifically if you have things like lactose intolerances that you deal with, you're more likely to have nightmares. according to the internet and a psychological study, which just seems unfair. If you're already struggling in the world of eating certain foods and having certain bathroom issues, then going to sleep and having, you know, Freddy Krueger and his friends torment you, that just seems like kicking you when you're down, if I'm being honest. At least that's the way I feel about it. But it is true, apparently. So get your gut right, and then you won't have that horrible nightmare of falling and then waking up before you hit the pavement. I'm assuming. I don't know. Waffle houses are dropping their eggs surcharge. This was actually a viral story a bunch of places. Waffle houses have been charging an extra 50 cents for eggs. This has been happening since February. And they put up on social media that they're sorry and that it's over. It's actually egg-cellent news, according to them. I like and hate a good pun. That was a little bit of both. But yeah, apparently, this is something that a whole lot of people are excited about because you're paying 50 less cents when you go to the Waffle House, witness a fight you didn't expect to see, and then also enjoy some breakfast. Honestly, living in Texas now, in Houston, Waffle House after 10 o'clock is a different experience than before 10 p.m. If you go in at night for the 24-hour Waffle House, you're going to see some things, things you'll probably never unsee. All right, another story out there that I thought was interesting. A judge has okayed the sale of 23andMe. More important than the website itself or the service itself is the trove of DNA data that the company owns. Who did they sell it to? A nonprofit led by its founder that is very much intent on selling all of the data in ways different than 23andMe told you they'd ever sell the data. Shocking. This seems crazy, but the highest bidder of the genetic information company was in fact the dude who started the company who has close ties to pharmaceutical industries. So, yes, the thing that you thought was going to happen. when you purchased your online DNA test and then sent your DNA to a company is now happening more so that it was, it probably was happening the whole time. But now they're not even pretending it's not happening. They're selling your data and then that data is going to wind up other places. I'm glad I never did 23andMe. I was tempted. It sounded like learning more about myself and, you know, the history of my family was the kind of thing that I wouldn't get without doing a DNA test. But it just felt weird to send that off to a unknown organization. So I never did it, even when it was like cheap online and it was discounted on things like Amazon Prime Day. And again, I'm proud of myself. And hopefully you're proud of yourself, too, if you resisted. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A whole bunch of stuff to talk about. Penn Athletics has decided to go ahead and rescind a whole bunch of the awards that a man won while swimming for a female swim team. This is something that's caused a lot of people to be very happy. Paula Scanlon, one of those individuals who was on the women's swim team at University of Pennsylvania. spoke at the White House about how great this is for her and for a lot of other people and how it restores a competitive fairness to women's athletics to not have people who are guys, biologically, defeat women that literally cannot biologically compete against them. That seemed to be bad. It took a while for us to get here, but we finally got here as a society.
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That's the first thing I have to say about this.
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How many years of progress this is just fixing. There's so many women I'm looking at in this room that have fought so hard for so many years on this issue, and I'm grateful to be alongside many of you today. But more than anything, I am grateful for this administration for taking this so seriously. I have quite literally gotten exactly what they voted for, and so I can't start before I do.
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People start applauding, going crazy. She says she quite literally got exactly what she wanted when she punched the ticket for the certain individual that she punched it for when she voted Trump. That is great. It's great news. Honestly, it's great news for anybody who's a parent of a kid, a girl that was competing in sports that was worried that at some point they were going to be unfair to her. It is insane. And I'll just say this quickly because I don't want to belabor a point that you've probably heard a whole lot about in a whole lot of different ways by people other than myself. But it is insane that the left and how woke they are and how crazy they are about so many things essentially allowed for women's sports to be somewhat destroyed, if not entirely destroyed, by individuals that were not in fact women that competed against women in these sports. That seemed to be the kind of thing the left would be up in arms about if they didn't have some sort of excuse to be on the wrong side of that issue. But it's finally changing, at least for now. You hope for good. And again, I want to be completely clear. And if you think that my compassion is weakness, that's fine. I don't care if that's how you interpret it. I would like people that feel as though they're not men to compete in some kind of sport in school. Certainly, I want these to be adults before they biologically do anything to change themselves. But I don't want it to be in women's sports. I think there could be some other version of competition that allowed men, women, and... whoever else thinks they're a part of, you know, society to compete because I do like the idea of everyone being able to participate in sports if they're talented enough at any level, not at just the highest levels, professional or college or whatnot, but at any level. So I'm not trying to say that if you're someone that fits into one of these categories that's not allowed to compete in female sports anymore, that you're not allowed to compete in sports at all. Ideally, you'd probably compete in male athletics if you're biologically a male. But I also would be fine with competing in something other than female athletics. Even if a lot of people weren't in it and if we didn't even really pay attention to it. But if there was some other sort of division that people were allowed to compete in, that's fine. And I know that it's something that some people say like it's weak or you're appeasing society or whatnot. Now, I honestly think that it's the exact opposite of that. Personally, I think it's demonstrating that I actually care about protecting female athletics. And beyond that, you do you, especially if you're an adult human. And again, I just imagine it will be completely not popular as far as the sport goes, if it's two or three total people. that are competing in some sort of athletic competition throughout the entire country. Because I don't know that you'd have a massive amount of individuals that would flood into this whatever-you-call-it league thing. All right, other stuff out there. This is interesting. Outnumbered reacted to this story by saying how much several members of that television show, that television news program, like this. Tennessee law is going to allow courts to suspend or delay a minor's driver's license for up to a year if they're found guilty of bullying and or cyberbullying. Again, I'm kind of surprised that Fox News and some of their pundits were such big fans of this because it does feel like the government should probably not be this involved in what they deem to be online versions of bullying. And yet there is sort of a well-intentioned aspect of thinking that, and I really think the parents could be the ones doing this, penalizing your kid by not letting them drive a vehicle or have a driver's license because they're being a jerk to other people online or worse than that. But here's a little bit of how Outnumbered talked about this topic. You are a big fan of this.
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I am a fan of this because we've done so many stories where it leads to suicide. Bullying can lead to suicide. And this includes cyberbullying. And I'm sure they'd have to prove it goes to the extreme because we all like freedom of speech. But yet if it's harassing someone, if it's putting someone at risk and their life in danger, then I'm all in favor of this. I think it holds people accountable. And these teenagers need to know you can't do this. You're going to lose your privilege to drive. And that's a big deal for teenagers.
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Yes. It is. Actually, I'll pause it right there for just a second, and I am going to react to the thing she said of substance, but it's actually not. I know a lot of teen kids now. That's a weird way to say that. I know a lot of parents of teenage kids now who say that their kid doesn't care about driving, that it's very different than my generation or generations before me. I'm an older millennial, close to the Gen X generation. People desperately wanted a driver's license. From my childhood and the childhoods of my parents, my grandparents, everyone I know. But younger people today care more about being on social media platforms or, you know, hanging out late at night, playing video games in their room. I'm not saying that all of them don't care about a driver's license, but for some reason, a lot of them don't. But the overarching problem here remains the same. The idea, again, that government officials can start to moderate your social media posts and determine at what point they become something that they don't like and then refer to that as bullying or cyberbullying or whatever else. Now, granted, Tennessee is less likely to go as rogue as, say, New York would or California on this issue. But there are reasons to dislike it. Here's a little bit more on Fox from Outnumbered talking about it.
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We take a taxi.
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Well, in Jersey, we just drive fast.
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Some of us, not everybody. Paul?
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No, I don't drive fast. I don't even own a car. So anyway, I did a couple things to tease out here. First of all, the law exists already. This is just an added penalty, and you have to be of driving age, right? But they actually have this for younger ages as well who can't drive yet. So the metric becomes what happens when, by the way, Tennessee doesn't have a minimum age for criminal responsibility. So if you're 12 years old, you're getting charged with an A misdemeanor. That could be life-changing. Wow. I hope that it's applied judiciously. Right. So here's another way I hope it's applied. This is a red state past this, Tennessee. So more power to them, because I agree. And so this kind of thing that's long overdue, considering the impact of bullying. What happens if we get teachers bullying students, let's say, on trans issues and things like that? because that is bullying we've seen all kinds of cases like that i bet you we get a case where the parents say my kids being bullied into a curriculum he or she doesn't want now we've had that big scotus decision it'll take a while for that thing to devolve down so this thing is going to have to get used they're going to have to bang it up a little bit to get it working but i do like
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uh, when anybody says you got to bang this up, you got to fix it a little bit, you got to enhance it a little more. But I think that's a tremendous question, uh, from, uh, some of the individuals on outnumbered, uh, not just the lawyer who's talking there, uh, but the types of things that would potentially be considered bullying and how they'll be handled by the government. Cause it's a bridge for people to cross. And you don't want to see the things that you're seeing in places like the UK, where people are being arrested for what they're saying on social media across the board. And a lot of anti-government things winding up being things that people are charged significant crimes with. I'm not saying that's the intent out of Tennessee, again, as pointed out, a red state that seems to believe a whole lot in free speech and whatnot. However, it would be the intent of someone else copying this law and doing it somewhat differently, or even some of the people who would be executing the law in certain parts of any state, even red ones. So, again, I'm skeptical and in a lot of ways not exactly thrilled, but still happy at the idea of protecting kids. But it should just be the parents that are doing that. They should be the ones responsible for preventing this behavior in the first place. Unfortunately, a whole lot of them don't, which is why this story exists at all. All right. One last thing I want to play. This is insanely viral, insanely hilarious to me because of how stupid it is. This is a dude with a ridiculous man bun who is crying and upset, and certainly people are making fun of his lack of manliness in this video because he's claiming that the Trump organization is taking people by cargo plane, deportees or illegal aliens here in this country, and shoving them out a plane in the middle of the ocean and killing them. He's claiming this is happening. This isn't happening. No one is doing this. There's no stories about this. This dude is essentially just making something up and going on the Internet, much like a lot of people do, but going viral because of how ridiculous his emotional reaction connects to his completely fabricated story as a dude who seems to really just want some attention and wants to go viral so much that he makes up something completely unbelievable and some morons actually believe him.
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I can't believe I've just heard this. Did you know this? Trump, he has ordered the illegals to be shackled, flown out over the ocean, and thrown out into the ocean.
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That's not true. 100% not true.
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That's not happening. Oh, my God.
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He's literally doing the ugly cry as he's saying all this stuff that is not happening, that is not true, that would be horrible if it was actually occurring, but obviously is definitely not occurring, and just weeping about it. This is what annoys me the most about people on the left specifically, at least individuals like this guy. And I'll be honest, I try more often than not to not make fun of the unknown idiot human who exists in the world. I find it more effective to make fun of the politician who's influencing the idiot humans of the world. But this guy is unique in how he is going about life and how he's going about social media and just the crazy stuff he's making up. And I kind of love the beginning of the video when he goes, have you heard? I just heard. We don't even know who you heard it from. And it apparently doesn't matter to you. It's now time to cry into the camera as you post something on social media designed to get you attention. Oh, my God. I hate it so much. And honestly, one more time, I'll just say this for the cheap seats in the back. This is the other reason that any version of Democrats claiming that they care about people that are not white. They care about the black and brown people in society are absolutely full of crap themselves because the only reason that they'd like illegal illegal immigration to exist is not that they're more compassionate. but that they want more voters to live here in this country. And they think that they can get that done by having people move in illegally and then trying to get them sort of legal status, or at least being in places where they can somehow vote illegally, which happens a lot of places. But nonetheless, again, that's the whole reason for it. It has nothing to do with one side being more compassionate than the other side. It's who they're likely to vote for and why the door gets swung open or gets closed. And honestly, the thing that would be best for the people themselves would be to come in with legal status once the illegal problem is fixed. And I'll keep saying that too. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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That's right, it's time for Florida Man on the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in, DLash, DanaLashRadio, and X on Twitter to stay connected to all things her. I have a few Florida Man stories. First, a valet in Miami got in trouble because he was doing his thing at a high-rise apartment complex, and someone came up with a real fancy car, and the valet decided, I'm taking this one and going. The guy ran away, drove away in a victim's car outside of the apartment building, Later was apprehended. His name is Augusto Cesar Sandino Troas. He's 23. He is, again, of Miami, Florida himself. That's Grand Theft Auto. That's the kind of thing you don't want to be doing. There's video footage of it. There's the guy himself handing the keys and glancing at the car and watching it exit and then go its own direction. All this, not a good move and not worth one joyride. in all honesty. If you want a car this bad for a few hours before you get arrested by the police, just rent one. Hopefully not get arrested by the police. Hopefully that's the other caveat to my version of a plan and not this one. Just rent that vehicle. Pay an excess amount of money, especially in a place like Miami, where you're going to be able to find a rental company that has some fancy cars, drive around like a moron, and then live your life outside of jail. That's just my recommendation and not the way this guy wanted to go. Another story. This one's amazing. Not just because of the ridiculousness of it. A beachgoer in Florida found 25 kilos of cocaine on a Florida beach. This happened in Walton County. But the fact that all of the kilos of cocaine had a photograph of Yosemite Sam on the front of the packaging of cocaine. I don't know why. Yosemite Sam was the, you know, logo of choice for this person that's got all these illegal drugs and why they then decided to leave all the drugs on a beach worth about five hundred thousand dollars in actual money. The beachgoer who found it did turn it all in, chose not to feed any of it to sharks, which was a good decision because I would not want to see cocaine shark become a real thing, especially not in Florida. But there's just ridiculous stuff here. And to be honest, if you didn't live in Florida and you found a bunch of cocaine, and I mean a lot of it, with Yosemite Sam on the front of every package on a beach somewhere, you'd think it was the most ridiculous thing that had ever happened in the place you live. The only state where you'd be like, yeah, it seems about right, seems to be Florida. But this actually occurred, and it was crazy, and luckily the person turned it over. We hope all of it. We assume all of it. We don't know for sure. We'll see what happens from there. One last story in the world of Florida Man, and I like this one too. A nurse found a bunch of drugs inside of Florida Man's butt during a surgery. The guy, for some reason, decided to hide it there. The guy's name is Michael O'Neill. He is 43. He suffered from a stab wound. He didn't want to explain to anyone. Went to St. Petersburg's hospital. The injuries required surgery and well under. People discovered... I think a crack pipe and a lighter for some reason inside the man's rectum. I don't know why you hide the lighter there because you could just have that in your pocket, bud. You know, that's not illegal. You can have that one on you. But nonetheless, he was arrested. And here's the craziest part of this story. Not the first time. that this individual has been arrested where his hiding place of choice was the backside, and the hiding object of choice was a bunch of drugs. Michael O'Neill also once checked into prison, and while getting patted down, they located a bunch of drugs and paraphernalia, fentanyl and whatnot, in the man's rectum. It seems to be his move. As horrible as it is, that's a Florida man as Florida gets. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. There is a new potential ceasefire deal on the table. It would be a 60-day ceasefire between Israel and Gaza or Hamas. Trump says that Israeli officials have agreed to it. Hamas and Gaza have to actually agree to this thing. But it seems like that might be more likely than not to happen. Although we will see. But the, I don't know, pacifist in chief, the peace negotiator in chief, President Trump might have another political win in the international stage of getting peace agreements. And it does feel more and more like anyone who's called for Trump to win a Nobel Peace Prize is getting closer and closer to that being a reality. It'd be hard to nominate somebody else if this deal also winds up happening. with how many things Trump has been able to find a way to negotiate into lack of conflict. Again, that seems important. Shifting gears beyond that into a world of, I guess, bickering, not physical versions of conflict, the GOP is set to have some internal struggle to potentially pass the big, beautiful bill. There are people that are saying the White House will need to sway Freedom Caucus holdouts individuals who are going to be more focused on the ridiculous price tag of the big beautiful bill than anything that actually happens in it. Here's what I'll say about this. And we definitely should look to talk to a politician, maybe Chip Roy or somebody about their feelings on these sort of things. If we can find someone who's available for it tomorrow or something like that. But I'll be honest. you're kind of in a no-win situation and what i mean by that is if you defy president trump and his administration the likelihood that the conservative party will find a way to challenge you in an upcoming election i think is quite high if you grubber stamp the bill without voicing enough concern about it there is a chance that a lot of people alienate their actual constituents who put them into office did not do this stuff and then also elon musk has vowed that he's going to try to primary people with his own unique funding uh... who vote yes on this bill uh... on the conservative side of the aisle so it really sounds as though standing for or against it uh... you are likely to have somebody challenge you somewhere So I imagine the only people who are going to be very vocal and not be people who are just going to go ahead and say yes to this are people who feel that they can win no matter who challenges them. And that even more so makes it make sense that whatever decisions you make, whatever behaviors you choose to go down, they have to be tailored to your specific constituents and the things you believe that they want so that you can defeat them. Someone in an upcoming election, if you get challenged in any way, shape or form that you do. But that seems to be what the big discussion or the big talking point will be. Will the bill pass? Will it pass easily? Will a whole lot of conservatives just go ahead and rubber stamp this thing and some of the costs of it that do seem inherently or uniquely bad be things that we look the other way on? I do believe something unique about this, though, although I don't know how unique this truly is because people are all over the place and how much they claim this could be a difference maker. But tariffs are what President Trump, in multiple interviews before winning the office, they are what he'd like to be the main revenue generator for the United States government. He doesn't want it to be taxes. He wants all the steep, steep tax cuts and even more than these tax cuts to exist within this big, beautiful bill. He actually has said in multiple interviews, at least he did leading up to the election, that he'd love to see no federal tax exist at all for all Americans. It would just go away. And how would that work? Some asked. the way it used to work before we did a lot of that crazy taxing that we do now and that was via tariffs we used to charge a whole lot more money import stuff from other countries and if you are trying to revitalize uh... the you know industrial industry of the united states the best way to do that would be to incentivize production of items that are then sold here in this country and uh... you know harm or disincentive eyes people from getting stuff other places uh... and making it you know cost prohibitive for us to buy those things from those other places that wouldn't be uniquely bad if the end goal is really just enhancing uh... the you know opportunities that exist here within this country for the production of products and what not for are you assistance we have the means we have companies with enough capability to build these facilities open these places are doing this stuff would they really do it i don't know and what we want to really limit ourselves to that degree of course a lot of people would say no but i just find it interesting other at the end of all of this uh... the caveat that might eventually make that cost way less than what some are yelling it is designed to be, is how significant tariffs play a part in our both immediate and long-term future as a country. Because I think if President Trump gets his way, they'll be enhanced even beyond what they actually are without it harming us because of what we have and what we're creating here. But I digress. I move on from that because I do think that's the lost aspect of the topic, is that a lot of people, they just dismiss the reality of that potentially being something that occurs over the next few years. It can't happen. We're not going to do that, even if it's automated. To be honest, and this is the part that I probably also shouldn't articulate. Who knows? I don't care. I'm filling in on a very fancy, very influential radio show. I'm going to give you my real opinions on anything and everything, including this one. I think the likelihood in the next few years for a whole lot of these warehouses and things that might be developed in the United States to just be AI run, to have robots just doing all the production elements of it, is through the roof that that's likely to be what happens. I don't think that these jobs that could be created are truly going to be long-term jobs, sadly. But I think that's going to be true of the rest of the world too. I think the odds are that human beings are working in warehouses making things for us 10, 15, 20 years from now is almost non-existent regardless of where they're being created. So putting down that anchor here in this country now so that you have those facilities to flip into facilities that are mostly robots anyway sounds like the kind of thing that we should be doing, as controversial or ridiculous as that opinion might sound to other people. But I truly believe that even those, you know, facilities in China will not have a whole lot of sweatshop-esque human beings working in them in the very near future, if not already existing in some places because of how quickly AI and all kinds of, you know, robotic technology is advancing. This is the type of job that would go away first. So creating them now isn't really creating them in the long term, but darn it, again, that's a challenge I think a whole lot of us face together. All right, I will move on from that, as ridiculous to some of a point as that might be. President Trump has warned Japan, who he thinks is being kind of greedy, at least that's my word for it here, they may not get the U.S. trade deal they want because they're spoiled. That's another word that Trump actually did use to describe Japan. We've dealt with Japan. I'm not sure if we're going to make a deal. I doubt it with Japan, he said. They and others are so spoiled from having ripped us off for 30, 40 years that it's really hard for them to make a deal. I believe that this is true. July 9th will be the end of the 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs that Trump instilled on a lot of places, Japan certainly among them. So we'll see how that goes. But I do think there's a lot of countries... that simply refused to make a fair deal with the united states because they've come to expect anything other than a fair deal and they're frustrated that the person in charge in the white house right now really really wants fair deals and he wants them bad enough that he's willing to let some things be short-term pain for long-term success which i think many americans so far have been more on board with than people assume they were going to be That's the other thing I love about talking about this topic or this story in general, is Americans seem somewhat resilient to letting some of this occur, mostly because every time they tell us tariffs are going to ruin our economy, they don't actually ruin our economy. Now, granted, if we rolled out a whole lot more of them, I can see short-term pain being a reality. So can Trump. He's talked about it quite a bit. but long-term out where is the when there there might be a significant one and that's always the part that's lost on the people who want you to have the extreme opinion now is they they either under player over play the significance of something happening down the road actually there is a a inverse example of this all the discussions about u.s aid right now going on i'm probably chief among them was the crazy thing the chuck schumer said Chuck Schumer yesterday complaining about how USAID or USAID was essentially defunded by Doge and the Trump administration. This is just the beginning that he sees a whole lot of other things potentially losing funding or saving Americans dollars by going away. And he lists some of them and most people are on board with all these things. Chuck tried to say this in a way where he was telling you how bad things could get, and a whole lot of individuals, as I said over social media, are like, we accept these terms, we're thrilled by these terms, can this happen now?
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Also know this is just the beginning. If Doge attacks USAID today, then you can be sure they'll move on to another target tomorrow. Who knows? Maybe it'll be the Postal Service or the IRS or even the Social Security Administration. They could be next. Or maybe our national security agencies.
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Yeah, maybe our intelligence agencies might actually be hit with some sort of changes because they're deeply bureaucratic and far left leaning and not anything that's really helping us in society and much more driven by politics than they're supposed to be. Yeah, it'd be terrible. Let's get rid of all this stuff. IRS number one among them, by the way. If you want to take a war on something, you know, to the next level for most Americans on both sides of the political aisle, you go after that IRS baby and you do everything you can to stop them from doing the horrible things that they do. That sounds amazing. We accept these terms, Mr. Schumer, and we should pretend that we're upset about them, but we can't hide our happiness. We can't hide our excitement if what you said becomes a reality. All right, I'll take a break. A lot coming up. This is Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's quick five.
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That's right. It's time for a quick five on the Dana show. My name is Craig Collins filling in thrilled to be with you. This is hilarious. A woman on social media, specifically on some dating sites, asked for the best Tim Allen home improvement grunts from guys that wanted to go on a date with her. She said this was actually better than asking people to do some sort of pickup line or hit on her or even go out on dates with them. She just wants a whole bunch of people to grunt, Tim Allen style, in messages to her. And she's going to pick the one to do it best on social media. Here's a little bit of audio of dudes that took her up on this challenge. And there's some reasons why. One of the biggest reasons, according to a lot of the guys that seem to have been willing to send her the grunting audio, is that they're rather attracted to her well-endowed top half of her body. I think that's an interesting way to say that. She's big-chested, and they seem to be a fan of that. Here we go. That's not a good one.
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That was terrible.
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Yeah, that was terrible. There was the last guy and a guy in the middle. We're definitely not very good at this at all. But a whole bunch of people just grunted at the woman and hoped that it gets them a date with her, and she went viral for, well, two very specific reasons. But nonetheless, whether this actually works, whether any of these dates go well, all that is yet to be determined. I have no idea if it'll occur, and I probably don't care anymore. This is probably the extent of this story for me. But you get it as part of the top five, and that's all that matters. Are you bored with where you live? If you are, there's a bunch of cities throughout the country that would love to pay you to move there. West Virginia, in fact, as a state, has a whole bunch of places they'd love for you to move. They're going to incentivize you with a $12,000 package. Includes some outdoor recreational things, some free use of a co-working space, etc., etc. You got to move to some of the specific areas listed. New River George, Greenbrier Valley, Morgantown, Eastern Panhandle, etc. But if you do that, you're going to get a bunch of incentives to the value of $12,000. Tulsa, Oklahoma wants to give you $10,000. This is after you purchase a qualifying home, and they'll also give you a three-year membership to co-working spaces. I don't know what deal co-working companies made with state officials that seems to be a byproduct of a whole lot of these options, but most places that want to pay you to move there also give you some free time to run your side hustle in some sort of co-working building. Another place, Topeka, Kansas, wants to give you $10,000. This is in rent for your first year. If you move there, as long as you have up to $15,000 spent in actually eventually buying a new home as well, or that, excuse me, would be put toward buying a new home, $5,000 more than rent, but you've got to move there and you've got to qualify again. Baltimore, Maryland will only give you $5,000. This is down payment assistance, and this is if you win the housing lottery that goes with also being willing to move there. You're not guaranteed to get the $5,000, and you'd also live in Baltimore, Maryland, which sounds awful across the board. This one I thought was interesting. Ketchikan, Alaska is offering you $2,000, no strings. You get $2,000 if you move there. You also get, and this is hilarious, three months of free internet. It feels like the kind of advertisement you'd see on the side of an apartment building in a college town, but it's a real place. 8,000 people live there. And if you want to move to Ketchikan, Alaska, they're going to hand you two grand when you walk in the door and set up your internet for free for the next three months. Finally, Newton, Iowa made this list of places that are that's giving you money. Ten thousand dollars in cash. You got to buy a home worth two hundred and forty thousand to get the ten thousand dollar break. But you do that. And there you go. Incentivized to move there. No word on if anyone is actually taking people up on these offers. But I imagine somebody somewhere will. Finally, there is a list, a crazy list from Talker magazine, talker.com about the ways that you can throw off your morning. It was a poll they did that people, you know, randomly answered. Most of them kind of make sense. as far as things that you might accidentally do. Say, skipping your cup of coffee, not having enough water, maybe even skipping a morning workout, if that's the time of day when you like working out. These can all throw you off. But two things on this list seem uniquely bad if you get in the habit of missing these things. One was forgetting to brush your teeth. I can't imagine how many people walk out of the house often Being like, oh man, I forgot to brush my teeth. That have a successful life. I feel like a lot of bad things happen in the world if you forget that basic hygiene step. And then also people who are not showering. Whether you're not showering the night before, when you wake up, whatever it is. You're just not clean. And your teeth aren't clean.
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throw off your day. Of course it would. I feel like that didn't need to be on the survey. Quick break. A lot more. We're going to talk to a lawyer about the P. Diddy case in a bit. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show. This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff to talk about. DLash, DanaLash, Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected to all things that she's doing. A friend of mine, a legal face-off co-host, Rich Lenkov, a professional lawyer as well, of course, is on the show to talk about the P. Diddy stuff. And Rich, to start, I actually want to play some Dave Chappelle audio from a monologue he did on SNL earlier this year, talking about how much potential trouble did he would have been in had he been found guilty of all the things he was charged with. We'll get into breaking down the legal aspects of the case, but I just, as a refresher, want to remind everybody, and Dave Chappelle's the best at delivering this, of how serious a lot of these charges actually were.
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I've been in trouble in my day. Well, I've been in a lot of trouble in my day, but man, let me tell you something. This guy, Puffy, buddy, this guy is in an enormous amount of trouble. Yes, he is! I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. They've got this guy in a RICO case by himself.
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That is accurate, I believe. Rich Lenkov, how you doing, buddy?
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I'm good. Naturally, you would start with Dave Chappelle for any legal analysis. I like it. Yeah.
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Both he and you are two of the most important minds in the world of legal things going on, at least media-wise, in the world we live in. Rich Lenkov of Legal Face Off, as I said, P. Diddy celebrated in the courtroom when he was found to be not guilty of some of the most serious charges he was facing. However, he was not found to be innocent of all crimes he was facing. What happened? Can you tell us first what actually occurred in the courtroom?
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Well, some massive wins for Diddy, it really is. The jury did not believe that the prosecutors proved the real heart of the case, which is the trafficking and RICO aspects. They found him not guilty on three of those charges. They found him guilty on two of the charges, which were far less serious. They were violations of the Mann Act. The Mann Act is a 1910 law that is meant to make it a crime to transport someone across state lines for illegal sexual activity. So they found that he was guilty of basically flying people around the country to engage in consensual sex. That's the really important part. And that's a real win for him because, like I said, those are far less serious violations of the law, and they carry way smaller penalties than the others.
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Yeah, let me start there, and then I want to ask you why you think this happened the way it did, which is always hard to do to figure out what was in the mind of the jury. But as far as the cases and the things that he was found guilty of, I've read that it's 10 years in prison per charge, and there's two quote-unquote prostitution transportation charges that he was found guilty of. So maximum sentencing is 20 years. I doubt he's likely to get 20 years in prison. What do you say to that aspect of it, what he was actually found guilty of,
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serve yeah like you said the man act violations are 10 years maximum per count so two counts equals 20 years that's the maximum the judges especially at the federal level have great discretion as to you know the different factors the judge will look in this case for example, that he already spent nine months in jail, that how he acted in jail, the fact that he's so famous means that it's unlikely that he can really go anywhere in the world and not be recognized. So those are factors the judge will look at in terms of setting bond and also charging him up to those 20 years. The prosecutors have already asked for those to be consecutive which means they are served one after the other for a total of 20 it's unlikely it's very rare that that happens it's more likely that they'll be uh served concurrently which means at the same time i think you're right uh he won't serve anything close to 20 i think more likely he'll he'll spend some time in jail probably a couple years but nowhere near the maximum
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Why do you think he was not guilty of the more serious charges if you were closely paying attention to this case, which I think you were? And I know this is always hard. I know whenever we talk about it, getting your head into the minds of any specific jury is almost impossible. But what do you think were the big reasons that the prosecution failed to prove its case?
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Well, keeping in mind that this particular prosecutor's office in Southern District of New York has something like a 98 percent success rate. So they usually know what they're doing. In this case, however, I think they overcharged him. I think going after him for a RICO violation, which, as you know, is a federal racketeering violation. charge where you're engaged in a racketeering conspiracy, that's very hard to prove, especially as you mentioned, or as Dave Chappelle mentioned, that it's one person, right? There wasn't a group to form a conspiracy. It makes sense that if you're conspiring with people, then that might lend itself to a RICO charge. An individual, it's very hard, I think, for a jury to get their head around RICO violation, especially when it's one person. Look, it's hard for most lawyers to understand RICO. I think that was number one. The second thing is, I think the defense did a great job in showing through, Craig, the mere volume of texts and emails that this was consensual, no matter how much you might find it sustainable, no matter how much you think it's disgusting that P. Diddy you know, engaged in domestic battery, which they admitted he did, but he wasn't charged with that. The fact is there was text from the alleged victim saying that they were excited for free coughs, that they were willing participants, that they loved Diddy. I think that's all really easy to understand and hard to prove that these people were unwilling participants.
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Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, obviously, some people would probably say that they were saying one thing but felt a different way when you're dealing with the famous person. I guess the other thing I would ask in all this, obviously, the brand, Sean Diddy Combs, has been destroyed forever. I think there's not a lot of likelihood that he's going to do a sellout concert anytime in the near future, even after serving some time in jail. Is that more significant to people at this level of fame? It sounds like it might be insane to ask the question this way, Rich, but I do mean it because Diddy was about as famous as they get in the music industry. Is that a more significant long-term harm than spending three years in jail?
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Great question. I don't know. I mean, I think that the days of being canceled... you know, they might be over. We see a lot of people re-emerging. I mean, Louis CK is touring again. He was canceled. Jeremy Piven, you know, was canceled. He's on a run. He was just in Chicago performing, you know, this summer. Again, I'm speaking of a lot of Illinois where I am. Chris Brown is headlining at Wrigley Field, sold out shows. You know, Chris Brown was convicted of domestic battery, at least accused of domestic battery. He was canceled. So, You know, I think you're right. This has definitely an impact on his brand, whether it's, you know, full cancellation forever, I think. I don't know. I don't know if that's the case, especially given, you know, that he was convicted of basically engaging in consensual sex.
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Yeah, no, that's fair. And I don't believe in cancel culture in general. I wonder if anyone were to test what you just said to be true, you know, is cancel culture officially dead? It feels like it's got to be P. Diddy in the entirety of this whole case because from jump, A whole lot of the general public has found him to be incredibly guilty of all these things, regardless of what the jury inevitably decided. And I don't know how much that actual decision in a courtroom changes the public opinion all that much. P. Diddy has been a name you don't really say in a lot of places with any sort of positive reaction right now on a day-to-day human experience level. And that's kind of really what I'm getting at.
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But what if... Don't forget, what if Trump pardons him? Trump was asked this question at the end of May, and he said, I haven't talked to him in a long time, but like everything else, he said, well, look into it. So he hasn't ruled out the idea that he would pardon Diddy on these two counts that he was found guilty of. Maybe that, if that happens, I certainly think that has an impact on his brand and is far less harmful, right? I mean, he would be seen as a victim of overcharging by zealous prosecutors.
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Sure. No, you're right, actually. You're right. The more this narrative could change with P. Diddy being found innocent and turn into a narrative much like people like Johnny Depp, the more you might wind up being attracted to supporting him because what you think you're standing against that goes way beyond Diddy. Now, I mentioned before at the start of this, that you have a podcast. I think it's a biweekly show. It's called Legal Face-Off. You do it at a WGN radio and the WGN radio podcast network. And you love to talk about both the serious and the silly in the world of legal stuff. I imagine P. Diddy's a certain conversation on that show. But can you give me an example of one of the sillier things you guys talked about recently on Legal Face-Off?
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Well, you know, we just covered... But this past episode, we happen to have a lot of stories about judges yelling at litigants for the way they acted in court. I'm sure you've seen some of these stories. One guy showed up to court, by the way, on a felony charge wearing a world's best farter T-shirt. He tried to convince the judge, Craig, that it said father, not farter. We had another woman who sued because a co-worker put a Chucky doll, Chucky from Child's Play, in her office and she claimed PTSD. And then we covered the John Kreese from Cobra Kai. Biting his co-worker. Lots of stories like that.
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Can you tell me or the audience at large just how bad of an idea it is to troll the judge when you show up in a courtroom with a guy that says, you know, best world's best farter shirt or something like it? How much worse this outcome is for you if you don't take showing up in court seriously?
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You know, I go, I'm in court a lot. I'm in federal court. I'm scared if my tie isn't completely, you know, perfect, let alone wearing a world's best barter. There's another woman who was making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on Zoom with a judge. I mean, come on, just, you know, have some sense.
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Fair enough. Rich Lenkov, if you check him out on social media, you'll notice that he's a bit of a fashionista himself. So I'm not surprised that the tie is never anything other than straight, bud. But thank you for jumping on. Thank you for giving us more information and parsing out the P. Diddy stuff. A legal face-off. You can find it anywhere that you get your podcasts. Thanks one more time. Look forward to talking again soon, bud.
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Always great to be out. Thanks so much. All right.
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Quick break. A lot more. This is Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
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This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. A bunch of stuff out there to talk about. So little time to talk about anything else on this show. A guy was pulled over for a DUI driving erratically in California. He blew three times the legal limits. The guy was very intoxicated. But here's the other crazy part about this story. He had 72 empty Bud Light cans inside of his car. You get pulled over, you get arrested, you get in trouble, and the cops take a picture of all the empty beer cans and beer boxes that were sitting inside your vehicle on the side of the road, and that goes viral. This dude, absolutely a danger to a bunch of people. Drunk driving is not funny. I'm not going to make fun of that part per se. This guy is a uniquely bad actor in that world, though, and there's probably something that people are finding as dark humor in the viralness of this ridiculous story. But I'm just thrilled that cops do jobs like this. In all honesty, when we, you know, fail to thank law enforcement for the important work that they do every day, You have to realize that there's some idiot, some horrible person, more so than an idiot, I guess, because of the amount of people you're putting in danger driving like this, that is doing this, that's driving around at a .25 with 72 empty cans of beer inside his car that desperately needs to be arrested by police. And if you defund the police, you don't catch people like this doing horrible things like this, but that's a real story that went viral out there in the world. All right, other stuff just in time for the holiday. There is a list of some of the most ridiculous brand new names for fireworks out there. I do love when stories like this go viral. They're pretty funny. And honestly, one of the things whenever fireworks are a topic of conversation in news media or radio media, people have to play. I think it's contractually required that we have to play the sound clip of Joe Dirt, David Spade's character in that movie, talking about all the ridiculous names of fireworks. I'll go ahead and play that first, and then I'll tell you some real ones.
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So you're gonna tell me that you don't have no black cats, no roaming candles or screaming memes, you don't got no lady fingers, fuzz bottles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gut busters, zippity-doo-dahs, or crap flappers. You're gonna stand there and tell me you don't have no whistling bungholes, no spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honky lighters, whisker do's, whisker don'ts, cherry bombs, nips and daisers, with or without the scooter stick, or one single whistling kitty chaser?
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I don't want to know what a scooter stick actually is in the world of fireworks. But yes, that's a clip that's not real. But there are a bunch of ridiculous names for fireworks now. Some of my favorite ones from this year. The Wizard of Oz. And this is spelled A-H-H-H-H because that's what you say when you see the fireworks explode. Neighborhood Hater is another one. Or Neighbor Hater is a variation of it. The Popo Magnet. which I guess you'd fire off in areas where fireworks are, in fact, illegal. A cat scratch fever is a weird one that's out there. Shimmer Me Timbers is another firework name that is entertaining a lot of people. And finally, probably my favorite one, it's just hashtag light and run. 51 shots fired from this firework case that you should do exactly as it says, light and then run away. One thing I usually mention just in time for the holidays, and we'll be here again tomorrow, so I'll probably talk about this more tomorrow, is the need to be safe when firing fireworks off wherever you are. And the way that I usually talk about this, and I'm sure my little brother to this day hates that this is a story I think about whenever I'm in radio somewhere, just before this very important patriotic holiday in our country. But I remember when we were teenagers and my brother wanted to do a firework show for my family. So he invited us all to the park that we could walk to down the street from our house, set up fireworks that he claimed were safe. And for some reason, none of us decided to second guess that decision by then, I don't know, maybe 15 year old brother of mine. And he proceeded to fire all the fireworks directly at us because he had not pointed them up in the air. He had pointed them at the audience that he was trying to entertain. It was horrifically scary. No one was injured. So thank God it was fine. And to this day, it's now something that we laugh more and more about at the time. However, it was not funny as we were all fired at via fireworks by my little brother. Although I don't know, maybe he did do it on purpose. And to this day, he's keeping that a secret. He was mad about something and doesn't want to tell us. But for that reason, I'm telling everyone, please be tremendously safe this holiday season. You want to keep all your fingers and all your toes, no matter what you're doing, no matter how you're behaving and how you're celebrating the holiday. There's one other piece of audio that I don't know if I'll have enough time to get to. I can try to play it. I did find it funny. I'll just explain it to you. So Green Day is a band that has a lot of political opinions I'm not exactly a fan of. They also love to invite a guest on stage every time they perform. This is typically for that guest to play the guitar during one of their more famous songs, Good Riddance or Time of Your Life is how people refer to it. This guy got on stage and started playing Oasis' Wonderwall and got booed offstage. You can make a mistake when the band lets you do your minute of fame. Be sure you're playing a song by that band. Craig Collins filling in. This is The Dana Show.
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Carl Jackson takes the mic on The Mike Gallagher Show with a robust discussion on the current political landscape. From the surprising benefits of controversial political figures to immigration's impact on American culture, Carl paints a vivid picture of the state of the nation today. Dive into the specifics of the Senate's legislative efforts, understand their cultural significance, and explore what these mean for the nation's future. Listen in for a compelling journey through America's political heart.
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He's the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Carl Jackson.
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All right, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. I am your guest host, Carl Jackson, sitting in for... The great Mike Gallagher, always an honor and privilege to sit in behind Mike's microphone, and I appreciate you trusting me behind your microphone. Mike Gallagher, the number to call in to the studio, 1-800-655-MIKE. Tracy Stockwell producing the show. We got Eric Hanton in my ear. Christian is on video. Teresa is on the lines, 1-800-655-MIKE. or you can go to mikeonline.com, mikeonline.com. So much I want to get to that it's insane. In lieu of Independence Day coming up, I'm going to hit, obviously, the political stories. You've got the big story with the Senate passing the one big, beautiful bill. It goes back to the House. I'm going to tell you what's in it. I'm not going to stay there, however. In lieu of Independence Day, what I want to do while I sit in for Mike is I want to fight for America in a different way. I'm one of these people. I'm a. I'm a big picture type of guy. Sometimes that's a good thing. Sometimes that's a bad thing. I need people around me sometimes to say, hey, don't forget about these little details. I often view politics in the macro instead of the micro. And so all of the stories that pipe up, typically, I can kind of squeeze in to the macro picture. And that's exactly what I want to do today. I believe that this guy, I believe that, listen, this story is not... I don't think we can bring enough attention and light to this guy, Zoran Mamdani, in New York City. I was on Elder's Show filling in for him last night. And guys, I got to tell you, this story does not grow old and it will not grow old because there will be more Democrats like him that will surface. And actually, I think he is a blessing to the Republican Party. I think he is a blessing to the conservative movement if we understand what's happening and if we understand that his values are the Democratic values. So I will get into that now. I said that I would at least I want to be able to inform you of what's happened with this big, beautiful bill. Again, it is past the Senate. It will now go back to the House. So I just want to tell you some of the things that are inside of the one big, beautiful bill. And then we got so much more to talk about, including the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. I'm not sure if I've talked to this audience about the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. I'm going to mix all of this stuff in, but it's really important. UPenn complies with Title IX, will issue an apology for Leah Thomas. From the onset, you might look at that story and like, ah, not that big of a deal. Most of us have common sense. Maybe this was going to happen somewhere down the line. No, this is a big story. This is very important because it is a cultural win. And I think it's important for conservatives to understand wins and take the wins when we get them. Frankly, that's what President Trump is very good at doing. And it's one of the reasons why the left can't stand him. So we'll talk about the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. We'll talk about the five presidents who warned against mass migration. and why this is extremely important, what Trump is doing with this big, beautiful bill with securing the border, why that's extremely important, and why the left is panicking over that. Also, restoring American culture. What do we do to start restoring American culture? I can tell you that President Trump is doing some of that now. People like Mike Gallagher, Salem Media are doing that now. So we'll get into that as well. All right, so one of the things that happened with the Senate passed, big, beautiful bill, Number one, you got the 2017 tax cuts that have been extended. Now, guys, let me just be straight up with you. I believe there's some really good things and I believe there's some bad things in this big, beautiful bill. The House will continue to iron and iron it out. Frankly, I don't mind. The process doesn't bother me. I don't mind that some people will say, listen, listen, I don't like this part of the bill. That's OK with me because we don't have regular order in the House and the Senate. All right. So typically there would be what? I don't know, 11, 12 bills that the House, Senate would work on and they would all chime in. That's beautiful to me. That's America. That's what makes our system different. So it doesn't bother me that there's some some guys are frustrated. Some guys are trying to get what they want, this and that, so on, et cetera. I wish that there was more cutting going on. That's not going to happen. Unfortunately, there is some cutting. There is some good stuff going on. So I don't I want to make sure that you do understand that. But it's OK to see the process played out. This is America. This is what makes America great. This is what makes America exceptional. Our system is exceptional. So you've got the 2017 tax cuts that have been extended. I would prefer that they're permanent. All right. But that was a centerpiece of Trump's campaign promises. So that is going to that is going to happen. The law slash marginal tax rates across the board with most brackets seeing around a two to four percent tax cut. Now, if this weren't to happen and had to have epic times, by the way. If this were not going to happen, we would see major tax increases going all the way back to 2017 levels. And given the inflation that we're experiencing right now, that would absolutely not be a good thing. The child tax credit has been boosted from $2,000 to $2,200. I'm not a fan of the child tax credit, quite frankly, but it's okay. Some people are. I understand taxes on overtime and car loans and tips. This is the Senate passed bill. Now, some of this may change because it's going back to the House. All right. But the tips have been reduced. All right. Not totally eliminated, but reduced. So the bill would implement some of Trump's campaign promises on tax policy, reducing tax on tips, overtime pay and car loans. So taxpayers would be allowed to deduct the first twenty five thousand. on income earned from tips. All right, that's pretty good. Up to $12,500 in income from overtime pay for single filers and or up to $25,000 for joint filers. and up to $10,000 of car loan interest on American-made vehicles. So that's really going to boost, I believe, American-made vehicles. All right, number three, Social Security deduction for seniors, $6,000 deduction. So instead of Trump's no taxes on Social Security, quote-unquote, the bill would allow seniors to deduct taxes. Six thousand dollars of their Social Security income with that amount decreasing once income passes seventy five thousand dollars for single filers or one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for joint filers. Your Social Security is not going anywhere. You have the. mainstream media, the DNC, the Democratic media, whether it's CNN, whether it's MSNBC, trying to scare the bejeebers out of our seasoned citizens. Trump is not getting rid of Social Security. Trump is not getting rid of Medicare. Trump is not doing anything with Medicaid except trying to improve these systems and get rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse. And if we don't do that, then these things will become insolvent. So don't let the media scare you. This is absolutely honestly you would have lost your benefits if we were going to continue on the road in which we were headed funding immigration and border security i absolutely love this i'll tie this in later with the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo all right so uh so we'll talk about touch on this a little more later so the legislation again this is the senate pass bill headed back to the house with dedicate $150 billion toward enforcement in line with Trump's campaign promises. Nearly $30 billion of that for ICE, Immigration and Custom Enforcement. All right. Also alongside $13.5 billion in grants for state and local governments who assist with the effort so that we could build right here in the state of Florida, Alligator Alcatraz. I love it. The bill allocates $45 billion for the detention of illegal immigrants. You got another $46.5 billion is dedicated to the construction of a wall thank you jesus all these people that talk about oh we don't need a wall i mean trump has got it under control now why do we need a wall so we need a wall to make sure that when democrats get back in office one day and they will they won't open up the borders again all right carl jackson and for the great mike gallagher we'll wrap this up on the other side i feel so blue
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All right. Welcome back to the Mike Gallagher show. I am your guest host, Carl Jackson, sitting in for the great Mike Gallagher. Guys, I just want to remind you about MikeGStore.com. Mike is proud to tell you we have or he has some new President Trump swag that's now available. It's Mike's Trust Trump series of coffee mugs, baseball caps and T-shirts. I love that, actually. Go to the MikeGStore.com. That's MikeGStore.com today to get your Trust Trump paraphernalia now. Again, that is MikeGStore.com. MikeGStore.com to get all of your Trust Trump merch. Oh, I love that shirt on the left. Anyway, again, you are listening to The Mike Gallagher Show. I'm your guest host, Carl Jackson. Please follow me, all things social media, X, Instagram, and Facebook. You can find me at Carl Jackson Show or at The Carl Jackson Show. You'll run across me there. Also, please subscribe to my podcast. The Carl Jackson Show. That is The Carl Jackson Show. I'm on YouTube. I'm on Rumble. Please rate and review us there. Salem Podcast Network or wherever you go to get your podcast. The Carl Jackson Show is where you can find me. So what we're talking about right now is what's in the Senate passed big, beautiful bill. Now, again, this will return to the House to be ironed out. So that's important. So you've got some good stuff in here. You've got some bad stuff in here. But ultimately, what we don't want is to return to 2017 tax levels. And honestly, guys, we are the change that we've been seeking. So if some of this stuff disappoints you, then what you have to do is in your district, you got to fight for stronger congressmen and so on, et cetera. Trump cannot do this on his own. All right. Oh, you got the news last night. It looks like Laura Trump may be looking to run for Tom Tillis's seat. I think that would be a good thing, quite frankly. I've never been a fan. of Tom Tillis, and this has nothing to do with the bill that's on the floor now, quite frankly. I look at these guys' voting records, and you can sniff a rhino from a mile away, and if you don't have the talent like I do to sniff a rhino from a mile away, you can always look at their voting record. So good riddance to him. So I'm looking forward to somebody else filling that seat that hopefully will be more conservative than Tom Tillis has has been. OK, so I'm going to get back to what we were discussing, some of the things that are in the Senate passed bill. Oh, man, and we're pressed for time, so I'm going to go through this as quickly as I can. Again, $6,000 Social Security deduction for seniors. You've got funding of the Immigration and Border Security. Again, $30 billion for ICE. You've got $13.5 billion in grants for state and local governments who assist the effort like we're doing in Florida. The bill allocates $45 billion for the detention of illegals. Another $46.5 billion is dedicated to building the border wall. All right. Number five, you got clean energy tax credits, several clean energy tax credits included in the cuts, tax energy cuts, tax credit cuts. Excuse me. So several clean energy tax credits included in the Inflation Reduction Act are being cut beginning as early as 2025. I love that. It's time for us to return to common sense and stop playing this game. We need fossil fuels. We need energy. All this green nonsense is not doing anything to reduce warming on the planet. It's asinine. I'm sorry. And I think it's narcissistic to believe that God created this earth. And it's been around forever. And we can destroy it somehow. It's just crazy. It's ludicrous. It's communism. It's all about control. So I am so glad that this has come to fruition. Medicaid and rural hospitals is another issue. So the bill would seek to reduce Medicaid spending by imposing an 80-hour monthly work requirement for able-bodied adults to receive benefits. What's wrong with that? It also reduces the provider tax. I love that. States tax hospitals and doctors to pay for their Medicaid programs from six to three and a half percent in states that expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act. Listen, I appreciate that. Snap cuts. Some people will be mad at this. I absolutely love this. The bill would for the first time require states to continue the supplemental nutrition assistance program. Now, what does that do? That's going to make states, even blue states, say, wait a minute. Are you gaming the system? I love that. Five trillion dollar debt selling increase. I hate that. All right. The bill would increase the U.S. debt selling by five trillion. Forty thousand dollars in a salt cap that increases by one percent for five years instead of the 10 years. So it's not as long. But you'll get to fund some of the nonsense in Zoran Mamdani's if he does win. God, please let Curtis Lee will win or Mayor Eric Adams even. So we'll get to fund some of that. Education policies are tweaked. So I love this. It would reduce Pell Grant eligibility for high-income students and students with a full ride. It proposes two federal student loan plans, including one traditional repayment plan and one income-based repayment plan. I love that. What was cut? The Senate's nonpartisan referee, parliamentarian Elizabeth McDonald Ruth, that many provisions and earlier Senate committee drafts of the legislation were ineligible for passage under the filibuster reconciliation rule. Let me just say this about the Senate parliamentarian. I now end it there. I do believe that she was used, even though she was a nuisance, oftentimes as a scapegoat for RINO Republicans. Nonetheless, Some very good stuff in this bill and some not so great stuff, but it'll get ironed out and we will make the country better once it's passed. We'll be back. Carl Jackson in for Mike Gallagher. Always tomorrow.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. Mike Gallagher. Broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide. And seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Sitting in for Mike today, here's Carl Jackson.
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All right, welcome back to the ReliefFactor.com studio. I am your guest host, Carl Jackson, sitting in for the great Mike Gallagher. Got to kind of pinch myself. I mean, Mike is one of the top talents in all of national syndicated radio. Always there in the top tier. So it's kind of surreal. I mean, I literally was listening to Mike back in the day. So to be able to sit here behind his microphone, guys, we live in a great country. We live in an amazing country. amazing country. 1-800-655-MIKE, 1-800-655-6453, mikeonline.com, mikeonline.com. Thank you, Tracy Stockwell, helping to produce the show. Eric Hansen is in my ear. Christian, thank you on video. Teresa is on the lines, 1-800-655-MIKE. Lou's got my back right here at AM 950, theanswerorlando.com. Still plenty to get to. I do want to Actually start a little differently. I do want to take a couple of your calls right off the bat. And then I want to get into this issue with immigration. You guys may have heard the news that Sean Diddy was found not guilty on the major charges, racketeering and sex trafficking, two counts of sex trafficking. He was found guilty on two counts of the Mann Act, which I believe is transporting someone for sexual with two ex-girlfriends across state lines. He dodged a bullet. I don't know how long the sentence will be for the Mann Act, but I can tell you it's not racketeering. It's not sex trafficking. Those were the most those were the biggies, if you will. He was found not guilty on all of the biggies. All right. So we'll we'll see what his sentence will entail. But that is the breaking news on that end.
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um let me go to um who do we who do we have here let me go to joe i believe uh joe on line two joe welcome to the mike gallagher show you want to talk about ma'am danny you've got the mic hey hey thank you thank you um just a an idea you know and i you know some some terms that you know we all know you know hit him in the wallet hit him in the wallet you know last time i checked both republicans and democrats uh you know, go on tourism, why are we not thinking about, you know, not spending our money in, let's say, New York in this case to maybe have some of these folks kind of think, oh, what will this actually do if, you know, half our tourism, you know, doesn't want to come here and spend money? You know, and that's where I'm saying maybe hit them in the wallet and whether you call it boycott, you know, advanced boycott, whatever it may be, It may be something to think about. That's all.
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Hey, listen, I appreciate you thinking outside of the box, Joe. I know Trump has already come out and said if this nut job becomes the mayor, federal funding, he's going to have a hard time getting federal funding for me while I'm in. So he's intent to make New Yorkers feel the pain or New York City residents feel the pain. And again, listen, there were low turnout numbers. despite all the hype around this guy. So I do believe it's possible that a Curtis Sliwa and Eric Adams can defeat this guy. But man, people have got to, people in New York City, you got to wake up. You've got to wake up and we'll get into some of this guy's policies. And one of the problems with this guy and one of the issues that Democrats are dealing with and having a hard time with is the fact that the guy is so honest. Now, frankly, he's been lying lately and walking back some stuff, trying to or simply because I think the left has come out for him, but also kind of admonishing him. Hey, don't admit that you're commies, a commie. But the problem is he believes this stuff so deeply it's not working. He believes it so deeply when he speaks, he sounds like a communist because he is a communist. And I believe even worse than the argument that I made. And actually, Ayaan Hirsi Ali made an even better argument earlier. I believe that he's a commie and an Islamist. That's a convergence like we've never seen. If you thought Bill de Blasio was bad for New York City, wait until and if this guy becomes the mayor. And I'll get into that momentarily. Also talk more on immigration. Let's go to Linda. Linda has been waiting patiently in San Jose, California on line three. Linda, welcome to the Mike Gallagher show. You've got the mic. Uh-oh. Do we have Linda?
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Am I on now?
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Yes, yes.
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You're right where you need to be. Don't be tripping because you're on Mike's mic, okay? You are beautiful, and I just was so glad I used to listen to you during the 9 o'clock hour, and I wish you were on the radio more. God bless you. Praise the Lord. And you present your opinions in a real person's way. You keep it real. I love you, and I'm praying for you, and be blessed.
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Thank you. God bless you. I appreciate you being out there. Really do. All right. Let's go to Warren. Warren is online for Warren. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher show. You've got the mic. Oh, not there. OK. All right. So anyway, let me. All right. So let me let me let me get to some of the things that I really want to get to in this hour. And we're going to have to you're in for some conservative cardio. So you guys hold on. All right. Five presidents who warned against mass immigration. Guys, this is extremely important. Calvin Coolidge. One of my favorite presidents in history said this in the early 1920s. America must be must be kept American. All right. And some of you are out there already saying, especially, I mean, if you're on the left, you're out there saying, oh, he was a racist, a white Republican. He was a he was a racist. In the early 1920s, you had Calvin Coolidge, President Calvin Coolidge. Drastically reduced. This is from Breitbart. Actually, I kept this in my files. This was written over a year ago. Drastically reduced annual legal immigration levels to the U.S., stabilizing the nation's population following decades of record high immigration, they write. Coolidge, in a December 1923 address, said immigration levels must not exceed the ability of Americans to absorb new arrivals and that America must be kept American, is what he said. He said American institutions rest solely on good citizenship. They were created by people who had a background of self-government. And this is a very important point before I go on, because a lot of the people that the Biden administration and the left allowed to come into the United States of America, the goal wasn't to bring in a bunch of people that had a background of self-government. The goal was to bring in a bunch of people that will vote Democrat. Why did you flood the borders? All right. The reason why the left wanted to flood the borders beyond having a perpetual underclass and make make no mistake about it. If you support open borders, you support a perpetual underclass because that's the only reason they can't even talk about it without lying. acting like they're compassionate. From Nancy Pelosi to, I forget the guy, the other guy, several people in the House, literally, well, who's going to pick this? Who's going to do that? I don't know. You or an American or somebody else talking about farming? Somebody was talking about farming. It was a black liberal. I can't remember which one, frankly. Or who's going to milk the cows on the farms? I don't know. The farmers and the machines they invented decades ago to do it? I mean, these people just lie. A lot of people don't know there is single-digit numbers, frankly, of illegals that work on farms. I'm not saying they're not crucial to some of those people, but you can work that out. Hey, you guys can come over seasonally, but once the season is over, you gots to bounce. This is what we used to do in the United States of America. But the truth is Democrats want a permanent underclass. The other reason that they want illegal immigration, even if it's just in California, you would sit there and think, why just in California? Why just in New York? Why flood these cities? And man, I guess, you know, they're scared of red states now. They don't need to deal with red states. The more bodies that you have, the more house seats that you get. So that's something else that they want to do. They want more house seats because they want to retain power in the House and in Congress in general. Electoral college numbers. You ramp up the electoral college numbers. That's what they're looking to do. And you get federal funding. You get more federal funding. You've got literally. I think Gavin Newsom declares budget emergency as he signs a record $321 billion budget. According to Center Square, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed a budget emergency proclamation authorizing the state to access $17.6 billion in its budget stabilization account as he signed a record $321 billion budget in 2018 through 2019. The last year before Newsom's governorship, the state budget was $201 billion. That's insane. That is unsustainable. I bring in some illegal aliens. We get a little money from the federal government. We get some more power in California. We'll be able to handle it. No, America must be kept American, says Calvin Coolidge. And I absolutely love that. All right, we need to take a break. I'll finish this up on the other side, along with more news, more on restoring the American culture, more of Zoran Mandani's values that are Democratic values as well. This is Carl Jackson sitting in for the great Mike Gallagher. We'll be back.
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We all have a face that we hide away forever.
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Mike Gallagher.
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I've coined a phrase for the great Scott Jennings. I call him the CNN common sense crusader. We play Scott Jennings clips all the time from CNN. He's the one voice of reason, it seems, on CNN. Here's a little sampling of what Scott Jennings is like on CNN.
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Democrats who say, oh, in private meetings, I've seen Joe Biden do cartwheels and handstands while doing trigonometry while solving all the nation's problems. We now know that every single person who said that has been lying to the American people. One day, Donald Trump couldn't hold a glass of water and we had like every medical person coming out of the woodwork. Should we have the 25th Amendment? Joe Biden could barely walk up the stairs.
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No proof that tech companies colluded to do this. This is nonsense. And he knows it.
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OK.
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No, I'm sorry.
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There was a major institutional effort. No, there was dozens and dozens of them. Was the New York Post thrown off Twitter?
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They were, and then they... Scott, let me try again. Scott, let's look at her for a second.
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She's done the work. It's really hard to deal with you. If you called Kentucky Fried Chicken and said, I'd like to interview Colonel Sanders. Now, his face is on the bucket. He doesn't make the chicken anymore. In fact, he's not even alive anymore. This is what the Democrats are asking people to do. Vote for the face on the... He was fine and he's strong and then he's fine today. Nobody believes that. And I just think at some point, I just... Then why isn't he running? It's organic. The entire Kamala Harris campaign has been organic. And so now we're... What? Organic. This is the literal most manufactured presidential campaign ever. She didn't even run. Well, quite a few people will vote for Harris, so I think we should all open up a head examination in the doctor's office. We'll have plenty of people there. It's pretty apparent the disdain with which they hold half of the country in. That's crazy, Scott. I'm sorry. I'm just reading the journalism. I'm pro-journalist here. I'm reading the journalism about Hunter Biden running the ship here. She's like a true double threat. You know, she's terrible on her feet when she gets unexpected questions. And simultaneously, she can't even answer the expected questions.
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This is, you see why I call him the CNN common sense crusader? He's like a Christian walking into the lion's den. Here he is, the one and only Scott Jennings, because we have a major announcement. I'm coming off my vacation to break this news, Scott Jennings, but we are very proud here at Salem Media Group to announce the launch of the Scott Jennings Show. It's a new daily program. that Scott will host every day. It'll be airing live weekdays from 2 to 3 p.m. on the Salem Radio Network. It'll be available on demand, of course, through all our platforms. We get to get a little piece of Scott Jennings here at the Salem Media Group. And, Scott, may I just say I couldn't be happier. Welcome to the family, my friend.
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Well, thank you so much. It's an honor to be with Salem. It's an honor to be with you, Mike. And this company has legends, Mike Gallagher, Hugh Hewitt. I mean, you guys are the gold standard of, I think, conservative talk radio. And to be part of it was an honor to be asked. I'm happy to do it. And we're going to bring a little common sense, like what you see on CNN. I'm having to talk over five people at least for an hour. I'll just get to talk for myself and we'll have a lot of fun doing it.
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And, you know, I'm proud that you guest hosted for me one day last December and you knocked it out of the park. But you did admit to me, boy, three hours is a little bit of a heavy lift. It's never as easy as people think it is. So maybe one hour is going to be pretty manageable, I think. Are you ready for the daily grind?
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I'm ready for the grind. And when I hosted your show that time, I always respected you. But after doing three hours of radio, I thought, how does Mike Gallagher pull this off with such professionalism every single day? Because it's hard. It's hard to do. You've got to keep up with the news. I mean, you've got a lot of work to do. So I've always been impressed with what you do. And so if I can do a third of Mike Gallagher, I think I'll be pretty successful. That's what I'm going to do.
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You're going to soar. You're going to knock it out of the park. And, look, everybody's buzzing about it. I mean, I've been sitting on this secret for a while. But it's really a big deal because we do greatly appreciate you. And I know that the dynamic of being on that Abby Phillips panel and your role as a CNN contributor is important because, you know, my buddy Mark Davis in Dallas says, you've got to go where the other voices are to try to persuade, to win hearts and minds over. Look, I... I wouldn't be as probably as exuberant about going in and debating people, but you seem to thrive on it. Scott, you've sort of mastered the art of folding your arms, sitting back, and letting them say what they say, and then you go in for the zinger. Do you enjoy it as much as you appear to?
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I'm having a great time, and I have to give credit to CNN for putting this debating show on the air. It's really the only show like it on cable TV. And I think everywhere I go, I go all over the country, people tell me they want the debates. And there's a hunger for conservative voices in mainstream media so we can have actual dialogue, actual conversation. And I think in the Trump era, one thing we've learned is we shouldn't ignore anybody. We shouldn't ignore any platform. Conservatives should feel emboldened to go into every corner of media, every corner of politics, every corner of every institution and proclaim our values and debate and actually have conversation. I think when we do, the movement grows. And I think that's why the show on Salem is going to be another thing for me to do here to take our message forward. out into the world and say, here's what we believe about the news of the day. I'm just hearing from so many people across the country, the debates matter and we're winning the debates. And the more debates we have, the better off we'll be.
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The Scott Jennings Show begins Monday, July 14th on hundreds of radio stations all over the country, and I hope you check it out. Of course, go to all the websites and the platforms and the podcasts. In the couple of minutes we have left, let's talk policy. As you know, yesterday the Senate passed the big, beautiful bill. It's a huge deal, a great accomplishment for the Trump agenda. I've been holding my breath because I'm worried about some of these feisty Republicans who didn't seem to be on board. Now it goes back. to the House. J.D. Vance had to cast the tie-breaking vote yesterday. It came down to the wire. But, Scott, it cannot be overstated that this bill has to pass if Trump's agenda stands a snowball's chance to hell of succeeding, right?
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Yeah, this is the president's agenda. It's what he ran on making the tax cuts permanent, additional tax cuts for working class Americans, investments in securing the southern border and generational welfare reform. I mean, look, I don't have any problem at all with Republicans going out into the midterm and saying we kicked illegal aliens off of Medicaid. We told people who are able bodied, who were literally doing nothing in their lives. You cannot collect welfare from this government while everybody else has to get up and go to work and earn what they have. This is a bill that Republicans can be proud of. It's the president's agenda. It is how he won the national popular vote last year. And so I'm glad the Senate passed it. Now the House needs to do the same thing. And look, there's time to do other stuff. There's time to do spending reform. There's time to cut the bad out of government. But right now, making the tax cuts permanent investing in the southern border and securing it, and this generational welfare reform, these are things to be proud of for Republicans. And I think the president's political muscle helped get it across the finish line. And it should, because they sent him here to execute and operate, and they want Republicans to follow along.
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I got a text message from a listener in Cincinnati, Ohio, who said, ask Scott Jennings if those people on the panel are ever nice to him off air. I think a lot of people are interested in those debate panels. Are they nice to you, Scott, or is it a little icy in the green room?
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Oh, I think for the most part, we get along and we do have some great conversations behind the scenes. Every now and again, you get somebody who's been out of shape. But my view is you just got to keep smiling and be good natured about it. You can't take these debates personally. And I try not to. And I try to operate in good faith. And that's what I expect out of my colleagues. And 99 percent out of the time, that's what you get.
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Well, all of us here at Salem are smiling about the Scott Jennings Show, a new weapon in the fight for truth. I'm telling you, I've got this title for you, the CNN Common Sense Crusader. I'm going to run out and trademark it. Look, I like the way it fits. I think it fits you nicely. We're thrilled that you're going to join us starting Monday, July 14th. Again, hundreds of stations around the country, 2 to 3 p.m. Eastern. Scott, congratulations. Again, welcome to the team. I know we'll be talking a lot in the future. Keep fighting the good fight, and thanks for all you do, my friend.
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Well, thank you for this breaking the news today. It's an honor to be with Salem. I'm looking forward to getting started and we'll see you here on July the 14th. See you then. Thanks, Scott.
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That'll do it for our Wednesday episode of The Mike Gallagher Show. Many thanks to the great Carl Jackson for guest hosting. He'll be back again tomorrow. We'll have a special Independence Day broadcast on Friday, and then I'm back in the seat on Monday. Have a great day. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
In this episode of Washington Watch, host Tony Perkins delves into the intricate political dynamics surrounding the reconciliation bill. Featuring interviews with key Congressional figures, including Congressman Keith Self and Nathaniel Moran, the episode offers a comprehensive look at the differing perspectives within the Republican Party. The discussion highlights the tension between moral priorities, such as defunding Planned Parenthood and preventing tax-funded transgender procedures, against broader economic goals.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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The Senate bill moved way far away from the House bill, added about $750 billion to an already large federal deficit in debt. You know, it did things like it stripped away the blocking funding for transgender surgery for minors. It stripped away, you know, effectively stopping illegal aliens from getting Medicaid. It scaled back the Green News scam provisions from the House bill. We should take the time to get this right.
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That was Dr. Andy Harris, chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, speaking earlier today about the one big, beautiful bill. Welcome to this July 2nd edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. So the question is, will the House meet the artificial July 4th deadline to pass the massive reconciliation bill? House Speaker Mike Johnson has been meeting with holdouts throughout the day and believes they're getting close.
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I feel very positive about the progress. We've had lots of great conversations. I've met with individuals and groups all day long, as has the president, who's fully engaged as well, trying to convince everybody this is the very best product that we can produce. But I feel good about where we are and where we're headed.
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Well, today we're going to do something different here on Washington Watch. We're going to get two perspectives from conservative members of Congress who are regular guests on Washington Watch, followed by my own analysis of the bill's current state. First up, Texas Congressman Keith Self, who says he cannot support the measure in its current form. Then we'll hear from Texas Congressman Nathaniel Moran, who supports the bill, and he will explain why. Later, FRC's Travis Weber and Kena Gonzalez will walk us through the significant changes made in the Senate and why those changes raise concerns. In other news, earlier this week, the U.S. Supreme Court directed lower courts in three circuits to revisit rulings on transgender issues. Now, that comes following the court's landmark decision upholding Tennessee's SB1, which protects minors from experimental transgender procedures. We're going to talk with Idaho Attorney General Raul Labador about what this could mean for the state of Idaho and other states. So all of that and possibly a bit more on this edition of Washington Watch. All right. As I mentioned, the House speaker is locked in negotiations as we speak over a way forward on the Senate amended reconciliation bill. The House has been at a standstill for the past several hours. Here now to discuss this, Congressman Keith Self. He is a member of the House Freedom Caucus and the Doge Caucus. He represents the third congressional district of Texas. Congressman Self, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Great to be here, Tony. Thank you. So the House Freedom Caucus has been meeting, I think, almost nonstop. I've had conversations with several members over the last 24 hours. Give us your concerns, your perspective of the current bill as it now sits.
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Well, thank you, Tony. First of all, we want to support President Trump's agenda. There are some tax cuts in this bill that are wonderful, and most of what you will hear from anyone else will be about the tax cuts. What you won't hear is what's on the spending cut bill. Now, from my perspective, there are multiple reasons that this bill is morally bankrupt. It does not defund transgender surgery for minors. That is a moral issue. It only cuts funding for abortion services for one year, not the 10 in the House bill. That's morally bankrupt. Then there are other issues, paying for illegal aliens on Medicaid. And yes, it supposedly was taken out of the bill, but there's no teeth in it. So in effect, will it be in effect? There are others, but I'll stop there. That's my initial analysis. You're going to hear a lot about the tax cuts, but the deficit, nobody's talking about the deficit. Nobody. I got it. The tax cuts are important. We are going to get the tax cuts done in some fashion, but we cannot saddle our children and our grandchildren with an exploding national debt.
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You know, I'm going to try to be objective here on this, because I share some of the concerns you just put out there. And I've been articulating those. And for those who track my, I mean, look, we are very clear on how we do this. We are bringing news from a biblical perspective. And I have opinions and I share those opinions. I'm very concerned about the fact that we're going to continue to give money to Planned Parenthood, a one year moratorium. All right. But it reminds me of this. I don't want to get too far off in that. I want to give you the time to talk here. It reminds me of Bill Clinton back in his 1992 campaign. It's the economy, stupid. It's not the economy. It is the moral foundation of a nation that matters.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely, Tony. Absolutely. Well said. And frankly, we tend to see we tend to hear stories about us moving back to a moral foundation. This bill does not do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK, let me ask you this question, because this is a question that or a statement that's often made in this process. So how do you respond to this is the best we can do?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I reject that. And when they say this is the last chance we have, in politics that is never true. You served in this body. That is never true. There is always another option. We need to continue to find other options. I have no idea what will happen if we take a vote on the rule later today, but we must find another option because the Senate passed this bill and left town. Folks, this process is still going on. We have settled nothing here. I recommend that the president go get the senators, bring them back now, get them back so that we can settle this between the House and the Senate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I've been around long enough to know that play in the playbook is to jam the House by leaving town so that it appears that the House has no option but to take what the Senate sent over.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's absolutely right. That is the playbook, and we're seeing it play out right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
So Congressman Steffel, let me ask you this question, because I think when we raise objections, we should present ways forward. We should be problem solvers. And so let me ask you, how is the Freedom Caucus working? And I know that there's varying views in the Freedom Caucus, but that's probably the strongest element of the holdout right now is in the Freedom Caucus. What are some of the proposals being made to move this forward?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think that we ought to go back into the Rules Committee with a very few issues that poll very well with the American people. The transgender surgery is a winning issue. The Green News scam elimination is a winning issue. A recent poll proved that. And then the illegals on Medicaid, some teeth in that prohibition. Those are three issues that are winning issues with the American people. Those are three that I think if we went back into the Rules Committee, put them in, and then decide how they're going to move forward, those are winning issues.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me get let me kind of pull back the curtain and let people kind of understand the pressures here that come to play when you're having to make a decision. There's tremendous pressure to conform. And when the Republicans rally around something, it's like everybody's got to get in line. But the process only gets better the more conversations we have. And I know there comes a point where you have to vote. But when you consider the significant amendments made in the Senate, I think it's only right that the House have an opportunity to address those.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, absolutely. Plus, remember, Andy Harris and your lead-in said $750 billion were added. Look, folks, the best the House bill would have done if we'd gotten everything was to keep the $2 trillion a year we're going into debt every year. to add up to $37 trillion now, if we were going to add, and when you count in interest, over a trillion more dollars over the next 10 years, we're just exploding the debt. We're living a party while our grandchildren will be paying the bill.
SPEAKER 05 :
So let's talk about this July 4th deadline that was kind of a self-imposed, and I believe in setting deadlines because things don't get done, but that's not a hard and fast deadline.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's not. And frankly, both the president and the speaker have cracked the door on that, Tony. So I think that that deadline, whether or not we meet it, I don't think that is a major issue anymore, because both the president and the speaker in the past, the recent past, have suggested that, yes, we may go past it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, another frequent guest on our program, Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee, posted on X that he was in a two-hour meeting with other conservative Republicans at the White House with the president, and he said it was very productive. What are your colleagues saying? Are they getting closer, or are we still just kind of having these initial conversations?
SPEAKER 08 :
I really do not know and cannot comment on that, Tony. I will wait until the attendees at the White House meeting tell us more.
SPEAKER 05 :
So what ideal outcome for you, what would it look like?
SPEAKER 08 :
ideal outcome is that we do exactly as I said. We go to the Rules Committee now, do not have a vote on the rules today. Go back to the Rules Committee with these very popular amendments. Go back to the Rules Committee, put them in, vote on them, send it back to the Senate. Look, the Senate doesn't think we're serious. You know the playbook. When they vote a bill, send it over to us and leave town, they don't think we're serious. Are we going to continue to buy into the Senate playbook? That's the simple question.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right now, do you think the rule passes tonight?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know, depending on what's going on in the meetings right now. I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
It doesn't take but just a handful to keep that rule from passing. And just so folks understand, I know we're getting kind of into the procedural weeds, but I would say just from a rough perspective where the Senate has their procedural votes where they've got to start debate, there is a rule vote in the House that allows debate on the bill to begin. It kind of sets the parameter for the debate. It historically has been a... You know, just really insignificant, symbolic move. But in this Congress and actually in the last Congress as well, it's become a way to send a message that the the bill's not ready for prime time just yet. And and that's what I'm hearing from some of your other colleagues.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that's exactly right. And frankly, you know, they say that you're not supposed to vote against your own party on the rule. But more than 80 people in the 118th Congress voted against a rule at some point or another. So you're exactly right. It's become a tool to signal to the leadership this is not PTP, as Dick Vitale would say, primetime ready.
SPEAKER 05 :
I will say this in defense of the speaker. The speaker has been, I think, has run a more transparent process than any speaker in modern time. But it is a lot to juggle the different views, especially the factions within the Republican Party. But that said, Congressman Keith Self, I again want to commend the House Freedom Caucus for standing firm in the face of a tremendous you know, pressure from the president and others just to go along. Because I think, as you said at the beginning, we're not against the president, not against his bill, not against his agenda. Just want him to succeed and make it better.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. And we have personal commitments from the speaker, who is a very honorable man. And we're looking to him to simply meet those commitments that he made to us.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Congressman Keith Self, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, Tony. All right. We're looking at the C-SPAN right now. They're voting on the procedure to vote on a rule. They had to amend a rule to get to the rule. It's a little complicated, but it looks like they have the votes to move forward. All right. Coming up, we're going to discuss the one big, beautiful bill with a House member who wants to see his chamber pass the Senate's version. Congressman Nathaniel Moran from Texas joins me next. So don't go away. A lot more Washington Watch straight ahead.
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SPEAKER 15 :
Hi, Tony. Great to be with you tonight. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Let me just how do you guys in from Texas settle your differences?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, we gotta continue to talk through the differences and certainly when you go through the decision making process, I tell my folks back home, I start with principles, we add to that the facts, and then you look at the application and the analysis of those facts, and then you gotta make a decision. People with the same principles, looking at the same facts, can actually apply and analyze those facts a little bit differently and reach a little bit different conclusion. It doesn't mean that there's a problem in Congress. It simply means we're working through the process the way it should. And that's what's happening right now. That's what the Senate's been doing for the past week. And frankly, that's what the House was doing for an entire year before that. So I respect the differences of opinion within my colleagues. I happen to fall down on the side and the belief that This bill, though not perfect, and certainly I could pick apart a lot of provisions in this bill, particularly those that the Senate sent back to us, this bill on balance is a very pro-family, pro-faith, pro-American bill, and for us not to pass this bill I think would be devastating to families and to the American economy in the years to come.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I want to start with your kind of introductory comments, because the reason I had you and Keith on is because you are very similar. You represent districts that are very near one another. Both of you analyze things from a what I would describe a biblical worldview. So it is we can come up with differences of opinions on this bill. But let's talk about some of the elements of that that the Senate changed that Keith brought up in our conversation earlier that he felt that were he totally supports the the tax cuts. I'm not sure there's a Republican that doesn't support those. His concern was it started out with 10-year defunding of Planned Parenthood. That's down to a year. It had the defunding of transgender surgeries or treatments. That's now gone. So he said the moral components of that bill have been stripped out by the Senate.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I agree that those provisions, I would have liked to seen those provisions in there and I'm really sorry that they were stripped out. But if we can defund Planned Parenthood for another, for a year, that's a victory and a step in the right direction. And given all the other components of this bill and the other things that are at stake when it comes to faith and family and frankly freedom, because when we're talking about a tax bill, that's what we're talking about. And this started out in its core as a tax bill. This is not the end all be all decision making tree or process for every moral matter that we have to deal with in Congress. This is at its core a bill about taxes and liberty and I think that we need to provide that liberty back to the families, the farmers, the hard working Americans across the state of Texas and across every state in the United States and that will not happen if we don't pass this bill. And if we get caught up in the trees and quit looking at the forest, that can be problematic for us. I think we need to remember this is a big picture item that we need to pass for the president, for our families in the United States, and then come back and continue to work on these other things. Again, I agree wholeheartedly on the things, the criticisms that Keith levied against what the Senate did. Wholeheartedly agree with him. but come down to the conclusion that we still need to pass this bill and continue to work on those other matters.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think Congressman Self was pretty clear on this, that he wants to see the bill passed. He's just of the perspective that it can be improved before it is passed. Do you see that opportunity to improve the bill?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I don't. Quite frankly, I think that it would be a mistake for us to delay. I know that there are some that are calling for us to ease off the pressure this week and let's maybe go to conference or try to work out differences or try to somehow get the Senate revisions undone and go back to where we were. But I think at the end of the day, time is on the... is to the benefit of those that would want to kill this bill altogether. And so to say, well, it's not a perfect bill. Yeah, I agree with that. None of these pieces of legislation that are this big is a perfect bill. But if we delay it past this week, if we take the pressure off of passage this week, I think you're going to see even more problematic matters rise and it's going to get even worse. We should have had the House bill. It was a better bill and I don't like seeing the Senate just take ours up and be done with it. They didn't. They made it worse. If we come back and we try to conference again, I think it's going to get even worse and we're going to have more voices against it and then you're not going to see any passage of this bill and that would be devastating to families across the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
I would agree that the bill needs to get across the line. I do think there's some things that the administration can do to address some of these issues from a policy standpoint through executive action, not necessarily EO's, but even policies when it comes to Planned Parenthood or the transgender. I think the Department of Health and Human Services could promulgate rules addressing Medicaid funds going to transgender procedures. So I do think there's more than one way to skin a legislative cat. If you will. Let me ask you this question, Congressman, because this is what I get. And I've spent a lot of my time defending members of Congress because I do think we're making progress. It's slow. But there are some saying, how is it we're still funding Planned Parenthood when the Republicans are controlling the White House, the House and the Senate?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it is astounding to me because what Planned Parenthood is doing across this nation is atrocious. You know as well as anybody how ardently pro-life I am and the stance we've taken and want to continue to push back against the the horrible nature of the services that are provided by Planned Parenthood to cut the lives short of so many across this land. And so I don't understand, frankly, how some of our colleagues on this side of the aisle that claim to have a biblical perspective and biblical worldview could support that kind of activity. But we're going to take every effort to push back on that. And this is a step in the right direction. By the way, I agree with you. I'd like to see the executives take more action. And I hope that they will do that in light of what the Senate has done in the instance of the bill. But the bill language is the bill language at this point. And we do not want to cut off our nose to spot our face.
SPEAKER 05 :
Nathaniel, I want to thank you for joining us. And I do want to validate that you are a strong pro-life conservative member of Congress. We're grateful for you and thankful not only for you coming on the program, but thankful for your service on the Hill. So, folks, stick around. We're back with more after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in. All right, on Monday, the Supreme Court handed down a ruling or an order basically telling lower courts in three circuits to reveal, review rather, cases related to transgender issues. Now this comes as a result of the decision, landmark decision last month, on the issue of transgender. There was a case out of Tennessee, SB1, which the state of Tennessee wanted to protect minors from transgender, these experimental transgender procedures. Well, the court upheld that. And in light of that, they have ordered these three circuits to review cases that have been previously determined. Joining me now to discuss this is the Attorney General from one of those states in one of those circuits, Attorney General Raul Labrador of Idaho. General Labrador, welcome back to Washington Watch. Great to see you.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's great to be with you again. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 05 :
I bet you're happy you're not on Capitol Hill right now in the midst of all that reconciliation battle.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's crazy. I keep talking to my friends who I served with when I was in Congress there for eight years, and they're in the middle of a mess, and I'm glad I don't have to deal with it right now. But we're dealing with some great issues here in Idaho.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you are, and I want to commend you. You've taken some really strong pro-life positions and now protecting the issue, dealing on the issue of transgender. So let's talk about the Supreme Court's order that came down Monday. How is that affecting you in Idaho?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, as you know, the case actually dealt with a little different issue. It wasn't about kids and transgender issues. It was about what the plaintiffs did in this case is they sued the state of Idaho saying that we had to provide medical surgeries and medical procedures for transgender individuals in the prison system. We disagreed with that, and we said that we don't have to provide those procedures. And the lower court, the federal district court, and the Ninth Circuit ruled against us. And we appealed that case to the U.S. Supreme Court, saying that the law was not clear. Now, this was a technical decision because we had only litigated one of the issues of the many issues that are being raised. where the court had determined that our health expert here in the state of Idaho was personally liable for violating the rights of these individuals. And the Supreme Court decided to vacate the Ninth Circuit decision and the lower court decision returned the case back to the Ninth Circuit and told them to review the case based on the Scermetti decision, based on the findings that they had in the Scermetti decision.
SPEAKER 05 :
So what overlap is there from the Scermetti decision? And that, by the way, folks, is the case out of Tennessee. So what would be the overlap there with Idaho?
SPEAKER 04 :
So the overlap is that the courts ruled that the law was so clear that this government official should have known that she should not have denied the treatment. And I think now that they've clarified some issues on transgender issues and this type of review that has to be done in those cases, that I think the court made it pretty clear that it's not clear. that she should not be held personally liable for these things. But I think it will also deal with the underlying issues that haven't been litigated and decided by the court yet, where they made it clear that these transgender issues did receive a different type of scrutiny in the courts. So I think it clarifies the feel for the court, and I think it's gonna help us to win on these cases.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because in some of the other cases, you've got a case out of Oklahoma where it was an issue of, I think, either driver's license or birth certificate, government document, a name change. That is now having to be revisited in light of this case.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's correct. There's numerous issues, and we have many of those cases. Actually, the state of Idaho, before I became attorney general, lost a case based on driver's licenses. Pretty soon we're going to be asking the court to reconsider based on the Scermetti decision and other decisions that happened in this past year. session of the court. I think the Supreme Court, the US Supreme Court has done a great job of clarifying these issues. I think the science is actually more clear. Many of us on the conservative side believe that the scientific evidence that was out there was actually weak and not supporting the claims that were being made by these plaintiffs. But the more it's coming out, the more we're realizing that we were right on these issues, not just legal issues, but scientific issues. and others. So I think the science has been developing as we thought it would, and the legal ramifications of these actions are developing as we thought they should. So we're going to see many of these cases being litigated, and we're excited that Idaho got this victory. I mean, this is one of the things I promised when I became Attorney General, that I would be a lot more aggressive in fighting all these liberal groups and activist groups that continue to sue the state of Idaho. They come to Idaho because we have a conservative legislature, but sometimes a more liberal judiciary, especially in the federal courts, and we're trying to ensure that we protect the rights and liberties and freedoms of the people of Idaho.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, General, you're doing a great job of that. One final question for you. Just got about a minute left. So as you're describing the Scermetti case, the case out of Tennessee, that sounds like it's going to have broad implications for the whole transgender issue.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's going to have huge implications. I think they decided one really specific issue, which I think was the easiest issue to decide, whether a state could actually forbid this type of care, transgender care, for minors. And I thought that was the easiest. To me, it was the most common sense decision by any state to say that you shouldn't force kids to to participate in those treatments or even allow those treatments. But that's going to have a broader implications in sports, in prisons, in all these different areas. So I think we're going to see a series of cases. That's what the U.S. Supreme Court did is they returned all these cases for further review.
SPEAKER 05 :
General Labrador, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us. Folks, stick with us. We're back with more after this.
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Thank you, Tony.
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Good to be here. Travis, before we get into reconciliation, there's some news that just broke before the program started. In advance of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's visit to the White House next week, Likud ministers, that's members of his own party, are calling on him to declare sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Now, that's an issue we've talked about quite a bit here on the program, even this week. This, no doubt, this call, this letter that was sent out by his party is to head off any discussions next week of a two-state solution as they discuss peace in Gaza.
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Yeah, I mean, Tony, this should be a no-brainer for anyone who looks at the situation in Israel in the Middle East. You know, we were, you and I and others were there in April. We saw, we walked on the lands that are the lands that our forefathers in the faith as Christians walked on in the hills of Judea and Samaria. So after October 7th, which Hamas launched a premeditated planned attack over years of planning, following Israel's disengagement from Gaza, we cannot countenance in good faith any deal which gives up land that belongs to Israel with the expectation that it's going to produce peace. We know President Trump is wanting deals for peace. This is one in which any observer of the situation should understand it's not going to produce peace. And so this is an important move, an important call to recognize Israel's sovereignty over the land. And in light of the current realities with Iran, Hamas and Gaza and other regional realities, it's not going to produce peace. We have to understand to just give more land away.
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I think in light of October the 7th, it's very clear because this is a pretty significant step from the Likud party to actually call upon the prime minister to declare sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. And my meetings with the prime minister and his team over the last week well since October the 7th, this has been, it's one of their objectives but it's been way down the list. But now that Iran's been dealt with, this letter in part states that they have to deal with the internal danger that is existent in Judea and Samaria from the threats coming in from both Iran and others that are feeding the Palestinian radicals. So anyway, very interesting to see how that might lead next week and lead into the meetings next week. And by the way, folks, many of you, hundreds of you have signed the letter that will be distributed, will be sent to the president, making sure that in any peace negotiations we do not have, the United States does not push for a. two-state solution. We should do nothing that divides the land of Israel. That has never worked out. It never will work out. It is contrary to the stated purposes of God in His Word. So text the word letter to 67742. That's the word letter to 67742 and you can sign on to that. All right. Back on to reconciliation. You know, we had two members on. They had Congress from Texas, Congressman Keith Self and Nathaniel Moran on both guys. I would say identical in their ideological makeup, biblical worldview. But. Different views of this bill. And I did that in part to show people that it's a difficult process of navigating through this. And people who are friends, people who see the world in very much the same way can differ on this. Now, that said. Here at the Family Research Council, and I emphasize this to some of my friends on the Hill who were not happy with us expressing opposition to this bill in its current form, that our role here is not as an appendage of the Republican Party or even our friends on Capitol Hill. Ours is to advocate. Our mission statement is very clear for the sanctity of human life. for religious freedom and for the family, for marriage, human sexuality in alignment with biblical truth. That said, Kena, I want to go to you first to just point out the problems, the biggest problems. I know this is a huge bill, but from our issue set, why we have concerns with what the Senate sent over to the House.
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yet the senate sent back an amendment tony uh... to the house passed version which we supported uh... wholeheartedly that was almost a thousand pages long no a lot of things frankly had changed but some of the issues that had changed in the bill that i think would be of most interest our viewers are that instead of defunding planned parenthood for ten years uh... it defunded planned parenthood for one year which is really just a very short pause on defunding. Another is that taxpayers will still be forced to underwrite these experimental gender transition procedures that the House bill had said they no longer would have to pay for permanently. So that was a major loss. Medicaid reforms that really fix Medicaid and make it more accessible, more directed, and more focused on those who truly need it instead of those who are able to work, that was slimmed down, slowed down, trimmed. And so that was moving in the wrong direction. The same thing with Green New Deal subsidies in the bill. Those had been ended in the House. The House had come to a compromise on when and how to end some of those. And in the Senate, that was slowed down so those subsidies will continue to flow longer. And the last thing, Tony, that I would raise here is that it really gutted a very exciting public school scholarship program that would allow children in failing schools to attend private schools across the country in a way that really should have passed, but that also was gutted, and now that's made optional. So that means that a blue state governor, a Democrat governor, doesn't have to institute that program in their state, and the bottom line there is that children in blue states and failing schools will be stuck.
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Okay. Let me put that for those watching. You can see the graph that we have up there that does this comparison between the House and the Senate bill. So here's how we approach this. As you've listed those issues, those are all important issues. But there is a hierarchy of of issues which you have placed at the very top of this. And that is the federal funding to Planned Parenthood. It was 10 years, which then becomes a significant issue. move in terms of getting taxpayers out of the business of funding an organization that claims over 400,000 lives a year. That's a moral issue. That is a defining issue for the nation. Second in the list of concerns is that in the original bill going from the House, which is what got our support, frankly, and working with the leadership to get this inserted, was to end the forcing of taxpayers to fund transgender procedures. That's completely out now in the bill. You can take the graphic down. I want to see Travis's face. So the reality is Medicaid, yeah, I want to see that strengthened. I don't want it to be wasted. But if that were the only issue, I probably wouldn't be opposed to it. If it were just the educational, I think it's great to give people educational choice and we're going to work for that. But that's not a defining moral issue. The issue of the sanctity of human life is. Now, those first two issues, the Trump administration could take actions, I think, to offset what the Senate did. For instance, I think the Department of Health and Human Services could promulgate rules to make sure taxpayers are not funding transgender procedures. Now, it could be litigated in the courts, but that happens all the time anyway. But they should take that step. on the issue of Planned Parenthood. They could offset that by the Trump administration could do away with the Biden era policy that is still in place that allows abortion pills to be prescribed and sent through the mail without an in-person consultation. which is violating state pro-life laws. And of course, the abortion pill is now 63% of abortions. So I do think there are ways to offset the moral deficit created by the Senate version of this bill. Kane, I'll give you the first response to that.
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Yeah, absolutely, Tony. In Washington, no defeat is final and no victory is permanent. And so when the Senate took these things out, in part it was blamed on the birdbath, right? This procedure that goes through the parliamentarian. But what we saw in many other provisions that were in the bill that we're not talking about today, but were important to one or more senators in the Senate, is that those were litigated and relitigated and relitigated in front of the parliamentarian. And we really do not have assurances at this point that these issues were really litigated at that level.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you're saying that the priority was put on the economic issues. As I mentioned earlier with Keith Self, it reminds me of Bill Clinton's 92 campaign where it was the economy stupid, where we know it's not just the economic issues.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think that's an apt comparison, Tony, and I want to be careful here. This is just what we know. We've been asking our friends in the Senate for more information, but as far as we can tell from what we've seen, it does seem like not as much priority was given to these issues, which, as you said, we had elevated to the very top of our list.
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Travis, your take on this.
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Yeah, no, Tony, I think it's important that viewers understand the many dynamics associated with this whole process, right? Because even if they see something about this in the news, there's a lot to report about the bill. So news will focus on certain aspects. So for those who are concerned about faith, family, and freedom, What we are discussing here, and specifically what you and Kane have been discussing about the negotiation, the back and forth, and the additional removal of the provisions that would defund Planned Parenthood and other abortion businesses for 10 years, and a ban on all gender transition procedures with taxpayer funding. These are issues of core concern to the moral foundations of our country and how, as a country, we are going to speak into the question of human dignity and family. So they're foundational. And Tony, as you're noting, we have to proclaim them in Washington. We have to set forth policies as we've been doing. It's important for folks to understand the dynamic involved in this, the political dynamic, the negotiating about various matters, and as Kaina said, what we do and what we don't know. But Tony, I'll just emphasize, as you're pointing out, there are things the Trump administration can do to address the areas that you mentioned, the issue of the abortion drug being sent through the mail still to this day, in addition to the question of whether any taxpayer money should be used to fund any gender transition procedures for adults or children. These are both areas that we will continue to advance and can be addressed now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, this is... kind of an open secret people don't really it's not talked about but biden era policy remains in place that allows these abortion pills to be mailed into pro-life states which essentially eradicates these pro-life laws that are in place. So folks, you can actually weigh in on this as well. We're calling on the department, we're calling on the FDA and the White House to address this issue. Text the word LIFE to 67742. That's LIFE to 67742. Kena, we just have about a minute left. The process is stalled right now. House Freedom Caucus members are meeting with the Speaker and I think with the White House trying to work out a way forward. What do you foresee in the next 24 hours?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think our friends on the Hill, Tony, are very concerned and several of them, Keith Self was one, he raised it on the show, but several of them are raising these issues of defunding Planned Parenthood in a more thorough way and or defunding gender transition procedures that mutilate kids and adults. And we're very excited to see those issues raised because, as you said, those are at the top of the list. So, Tony, it's just a joy to work in Washington with you to elevate these issues and make sure that biblical issues are getting the attention at a time when they could actually be changed.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don't know that I would describe it as joy, but we're happy warriors. Kena, Travis, thanks so much for joining me today. Thank you. And folks, thank you for joining as well. I encourage you to text the word LIFE to 67742. That's LIFE to 67742. And weigh in on this, but also pray. Pray for our leaders. You heard from two very good members of Congress, and there are more. They're struggling through this. Pray that they would have wisdom and that it would lead them to the right outcome. All right, thanks so much for joining us. Until next time, I leave you with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul found in Ephesians 6, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, prepared, and taken your stand, just keep standing.
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Karen “Mama Glock” Murray unleashes a scorched-earth monologue on cloud seeding, weather warfare, celebrity mind control, the Epstein client list, and the glorification of the seven deadly sins in modern media. From Ozzy on a throne to why Tom Hanks and Ellen have lost her loyalty, nothing escapes the crosshairs. Tune in, buckle up, and remember: the conspiracy theorists were just early.
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Hello, hello, hello. Happy Monday, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in today to Shooting the Breeze. I am your host, Karen Murray, otherwise known as Mama Glock. And you guys need to come check out Franktown Firearms if you haven't been there. It is... I mean, I walked in on Saturday to teach a class, and the store is being compliant with all the new laws and all that good stuff. All the ammo is behind cases now. I don't know. They're kind of like gates, security gates that you have to request to get a box of ammo or whatever. We're in compliance all the way around, including with our classes. We are now teaching the eight-hour concealed handgun permit class. So if you need to get a concealed handgun permit, then you need to go to franktownfirearms.com and check out the calendar, see when the next class is. I think it's on the 19th. We also have a couple of refresher classes coming up on Saturday. We're going to offer two because they're only two-hour classes. So we're going to give two on Saturday, and then there's two more on the 27th. So if you want to go check those out. The CQB classes are filling up fast, and they are just, Absolutely amazing. If you want to train in that 360 kind of realistic environment, you can go check out the CQB classes, and you can find those at cocqb.com. You can find all this information. You can actually call the shop, and if you have questions pertaining to any classes or either of the websites or whatever, you can call the shop at 720-770-7000. 7777 and somebody will be happy to take your call and answer your questions for you. Private instruction is also available. I do a lot of the private instruction, but we have other instructors who also do it. But you can send me an email if it's something you're interested in. If it's pistol instruction, I can definitely help you with that. If it's rifle or shotgun, We might direct you toward one of our other instructors, but you can send an email to karen.murray at franktownfirearms.com, and I can certainly guide you in the right direction for that. But I hope everybody had a great Independence Day weekend and all of your fingers are still intact. I saw that we had a fire in Douglas County. Again, I remember a few years ago this happened, too, or just in our county anyway, that somebody disposed of fireworks in their regular trash, and they hadn't been, you know, wet or disposed of properly or waited the proper amount of time, and these fireworks caused the embers to actually ignite whatever was in the trash can and burn somebody's house down. I have three words for you guys. Bucket of water. Bucket of water. Just keep a bucket of water. Yes, it's a mess. Yes, it's a drag to clean up. But if you take your spent fireworks and you submerge them in a five-gallon bucket of water or two or three or whatever, I can just assure you that it's not going to cause a fire when you throw them in the trash. So it's sad to see. I don't know. It just really makes me sad that somebody lost their home because they didn't use their heads. If you would like to talk about anything that I'm going to discuss today, you can give me a call and Luke will patch you through at 303-477-5600. I'd love to chat with you about anything that I'm going to talk about. And I'd like to start off by extending my thoughts and prayers to everyone affected by the flooding in Texas. It is horrific what's happening there, and you guys know since I'm bringing this up, you probably, if you know me, you know where I'm going with this. At the same time, I also want to kind of give a big metal finger to the lunatics who are out there saying that these people deserve it. Considering many of the victims of this flood who lost their lives are children, There's a special place in hell for you for believing that those kids deserve to die because of the way their parents may or may not have voted. It's absolutely disgusting how these people think. So the middle finger salute is for the people who think that they deserve to die. And we're going to mention this cloud seeding stuff. And I know that you can strap on your tinfoil helmet if you want to. But the cloud seeding is happening. And the cloud seeding that was happening right before this flooding happened, you can look it up, you can go to the internet and find the information. Many people out there are sounding the alarm about the weather modification and how it impacted even events in the past, like Maui, the LA fires, North Carolina, and now we have this Texas thing and many other places. You can go to the NOAA website and find documents admitting to all of the weather modification that's going on. There's actually a company called Rainmaker Technology Corporation that is responsible, in my view, for a lot of this flooding that happened in Texas. So I don't know if you know who Christopher Key is, but he's an amazing patriot. I actually follow him on Facebook and a couple of other places, and I've actually been in communication with him to come on the show soon. And that will happen. If you know who he is, then you know who he is. But if you don't, then just go look him up. Christopher Key. Christ is Key. He's a Christian. He's a patriot. He's a great man. But here's what he posted yesterday. And if this doesn't give you pause... And if you think that everything we're seeing in terms of all this crazy weather is natural and, you know, just it's kind of Mother Nature and it's whatever, you need to open your eyes and do some digging on your own. And you can start by, and Christopher Key has nothing to do with this website, but it's geoengineeringwatch.org. If you've never been there, just go check out that website. But Christopher Key says, 26 feet in 45 minutes. And that's a question mark and an exclamation point. He says, I've been trying to wrap my head around how the flooding in Texas got so devastating so fast. Why didn't they evacuate? He said, and then I saw this. Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said the Guadalupe River rose 26 feet in just 45 minutes at 4 a.m. Let that sink in. 26 feet in 45 minutes. That doesn't sound natural. That doesn't feel like an act of God. I believe this was an act of war, not of nature. This reeks of geoengineering, and I suspect the use of HAARP or deliberate dam manipulation. Weather can now be weaponized, and if you control the skies, you control the ground. No warnings, no time to evacuate. People asleep in their homes, just like Maui, just like countless other natural disasters that turned into land grabs and control ops. It's time we stop calling these disasters natural when they are clearly engineered. This is not about climate change. This is about climate control, and it's time we expose it. And, of course, you will never even hear a whisper about this on mainstream media, ever. You're never going to hear anything suggestive of anything that what I'm saying. It's all Mother Nature. It's totally normal. Move along. Nothing to see here. We'll talk about the devastation. We'll show you the body count. We'll show you, you know, video of the floods as they rage through the streets or whatever. But we're not going to tell you why. We're not even going to question it. And these same cretins who lie to us about the bizarre weather around the world, about stuff like COVID being real, naturally occurring disease, the COVID shots are safe and effective, are pumping the airwaves full of lies about this big, beautiful bill that was recently passed by the House and was signed by President Trump. Now, I'm sure you saw Hakeem Jeffries and his eight-hour grandstand trying to prevent the bill from passing. Between him and clowns like AOC, we probably heard people will die dozens of times. I think Hakeem Jeffries actually said tens of thousands of people will die because of this. And I think AOC said it's a deal with the devil. Even on Fox News, right after the bill passed, On the five, I was watching the five, and my favorite human being in the world, Leslie Marshall, and, of course, I'm being facetious, who claims to be a moderate Democrat, she was lying to the people about rural hospitals closing when, in fact, and thank you, Katie Pavlich, for quickly correcting her, $50 billion is going directly to rural hospitals. in what's called the Rural Health Transformation Program. You can go online and read about that. But right there, blatantly, out in front of everybody, Leslie Marshall says all the rural hospitals are going to suffer and they're all going to close. And of course, the career welfare recipients are all freaking out because now, if they're able-bodied, they'll actually have to work or volunteer in order to get their government check. I see nothing wrong with that, nor do I see anything wrong with defunding Planned Parenthood, which this bill also does. If you want to get an abortion in your state that allows it, like this one, fine. That's fine. I just don't want to have to pay for it. Tell me why this is such a huge problem for some people. Good grief. It just makes sense. I don't want to pay for your abortion. I don't want to pay for your transition surgery. And I don't want to pay for health care, housing and food and child care, et cetera, for millions of illegals. It seems common sense is not so common anymore. Because to me, I look at that stuff and I'm like, OK, yeah, of course, of course. It's unbelievable, but they have filled the people who already suffer from incurable TDS with so much fear and anxiety that they literally believe they're all going to die. And if you spend any time on TikTok or Instagram Reels or whatever, you will see this. You will see people out there just beside themselves because they think they're going to die. And because that's what the politicians have told them. I'm going to play some audio for you right now that kind of confirms just how deeply disturbed and how deeply brainwashed these people actually are. Check this out.
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The last few days have been torturous. I've been doing everything, calling, emailing, everything I can. Today, my rare disease community are going to die. Lots and lots of my friends are gonna die because of Medicaid. Once they start cutting Medicare, I'm gonna die. And I don't know what to do and I can't do anything. And then on top of it, sexual, he got off. What's the point? What's the point anymore? I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die. My rare disease community and I've done everything in my power. I've wrote and I've emailed. I've done everything forever and there's nothing we can do. This is insane. We're gonna die. My rare disease family is going to die. I'm gonna die. The GOP. Trump. Hers who voted for Trump. I hate you Nazi. I hope you die with me. Because if I'm going down, you guys are going down, too. Trust me. I don't die alone.
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So Luke did a fabulous job at bleeping out all the expletives that this woman was throwing out there. But, you know, in essence, she's saying that, you know, we're all to blame because we voted for Trump. you know, just F all the Republicans for voting for him and the whole thing. So she is literally freaking out. She is beside herself. She truly believes in her soul that she and her friends in the rare disease community, if you couldn't understand what she was saying, that's what she was saying. The rare disease community are going to die, and there's nothing she can do. And It makes me mad, but it makes me sad at the same time because they don't know any better. And I don't know why they don't know better. Maybe they don't know where to look. I don't know. But all of these people believe the mainstream media and the leftist wackos to the degree that they honestly believe that this is it. This is it. Like Red Fox and Sanford and Son, this is the big one, you know. Trump has finally found a way to kill his political opponents and people who didn't vote for, you know, people who voted for him or whatever, didn't vote for him. It's truly mind boggling. So very sad. And, you know, obviously she's one of countless videos that you can actually go watch. So go go check that out for yourself if you dare. So I'm going to switch gears here just a second. And this is kind of on a lighter note, I guess. Well, if you consider Black Sabbath and the music of Black Sabbath light, but a concert is always fun. So I don't know if you guys know about this event that happened yesterday. Actually, wait, no, Saturday. Black Sabbath performed their final show in Birmingham, England, which is where it all started for them back in 1968. It was called Back to the Beginning. And Black Sabbath, of course, was the final act. They finished out the sold-out concert at Villa Park Stadium, which holds about 45,000-ish people. Black Sabbath performed with their original lineup, which is always great to see, Ozzy, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler, and Bill Ward. And I would love to hear your opinions on this, too, because there were some of the performances from people like Axl Rose and that were kind of questionable at best, but it was really neat. Black Sabbath performed, you know, all their fame, although I was kind of sad that they didn't perform the one biggest song that the whole thing was named for, but whatever. But the concert consisted of a star-studded lineup of bands, including Metallica, Guns N' Roses, Slayer, Tool, Pantera, Alice in Chains, Sammy Hagar, Anthrax, among others. And again, I don't know how many Black Sabbath fans I have listening right now, but it was a really neat thing to see. It was in Birmingham, England, so it played in the morning here because it was already, I think it started, it was a 10-hour event, so it was pretty wild. tribute videos from bands and performers who couldn't be there. Billy Idol did one, Def Leppard, ACDC, among others. A bunch of people all had videos featured. But even Elton John and Dolly Parton gave their tributes to the band. So that was really neat. And they were running 15-second clips. I guess you could pay... I don't know how much extra, but you could actually send a video in 15 seconds, and they would play it on the big screen from fans around the world. So that was really neat, too. This was not only Black Sabbath's final show, but it was a charity event, which was also cool. According to Wikipedia, and again, some of these numbers might need to be researched or whatever because it's very, very early, but all 45,000 tickets for the concert sold out in minutes, with 150,000 people having waited in a virtual queue for the opportunity to attend. The entire event was streamed online via pay-per-view with a two-hour broadcast delay and peaked at 5.8 million concurrent streams, which I thought was really awesome. Overall, the concert raised $140 million. It has the British pound symbol on here. I don't know if there's a pound anymore, if it's a euro. I don't know. But 140 million, which will be divided equally between two local charities, Acorns Children's Hospice, and Birmingham Children's Hospital and the National Charity of Cure Parkinson's were going to be the beneficiaries of the proceeds of that concert. And now I'm not a diehard Black Sabbath fan, but my husband kind of is. He likes all that kind of music, but he's a fan of Black Sabbath. And so we bought the streaming ticket. And it was actually really neat to see Ozzy up there. He had a big black chair up. He kind of looked like a throne, had a big black gargoyle on the top of it, and just very Aussie. But Aussie confirmed that he was diagnosed with Parkinson's in 2020, and he has been kind of open about the toll that it's taken. And it's pretty obvious when you see him, and you see him doing live stuff and his shows, and he does all those kind of paranormal shows with his son, Jack. And on top of the neurological disorder, Ozzy canceled his tour in 2023 to focus on his recovery from spinal surgery. And he had a long-lasting health issue following a 2003 quad bike accident. And I'm sure he's got some lingering health issues from decades of, you know, abusing drugs and alcohol and biting the heads off bats and snorting lines of ants. Thank you for having me. So I was reading some articles the day before the concert, and they were saying that concert promoters were unsure how many songs Ozzy would actually be able to perform because his health is so bad, you know. He can't really walk around, which is why they put him on that throne or that seat or whatever. So I was wondering, too, like how is he going to do? How is he going to sound the whole nine yards? Very questionable at best. So he got up there, and he shocked the world. And he did an entire short set, they were all short sets, of all the Ozzy songs, as well as did the headline act with Black Sabbath. And he sounded great. So much so that we kind of suspected that he might be running through an auto-tune, because he sounded really good. But I don't think, I think it was real. I think it was his voice. And the only song where he struggled, and I was thinking that he was struggling vocally, was Mama, I'm Coming Home, which I'm sure you guys have all heard that song. Which in retrospect, I don't think that he was having a hard time singing it. I think he was choking back tears. because he came out and just crushed the song Crazy Train immediately after. So it was just neat. It was a very awesome spectacle to see so many bands and artists and fans out there paying homage to now the grandfathers of heavy metal. So super cool. If you're a metal fan, if you know, you know. So before I get into my next segment, I have a question that has been burning in my brain for the last few weeks. And I have been seeing a commercial for the gaming app Royal Kingdom. If you ever watch Fox News, I'm sure you've seen those commercials. You had to have because they play them ad nauseum during every show that airs on Fox News, primetime especially. And these commercials feature some pretty big names as far as celebrities go. You know, some of them A-list, some of them kind of has-beens, if you ask me, whatever. But Kevin Hart, Shakira, Jimmy Fallon, these are the ones that I remember seeing. Lisa Kudrow and Courtney Cox, LeBron James, Jason Momoa, Chris Pratt, and a few others. And now I'm sure these celebrities aren't donating their time. I know that they're taking money and likely lots and lots of it to do these commercials. And one of the big selling points, if you can call it a selling point, I guess, since the app is free, is that the game doesn't contain ads. Now, just put that in your head for a minute. The game doesn't have ads, which ads are what, a gaming app will use to get you to spend your money to part with your hard-earned dollars. If you've ever played any kind of game on your phone or iPad before, you know how many ads are you forced to watch unless you pay to use the ad-free thing where you have to pay $10 or $12 or whatever. Sometimes it's per month if you want to play a game that's ad-free. So how is it that Royal Kingdom, a free gaming app that contains no ads, can afford to hire celebrities like this to advertise for them? So think about that for a minute. Any other kind of ad that you see, doesn't matter what it is, Wendy's, King Soopers, Walmart, Kohl's, whatever, they all pay for ads. Sometimes they have celebrities in them. but they charge for their products. They charge for their merchandise, right? This is kind of an obvious situation here. But this Royal Kingdom, no ads, free app, how are you paying these celebrities for this to appear in these ads? So evidently, I am not the only person asking this question. I went to the Internet to find the list of celebrities who have appeared online, in the advertisements for Royal Kingdom, and some of them I didn't list because I didn't think of them, and they were people that are pretty obscure, but there's several of them. And I ended up on a Reddit thread. And after reading a few of the responses to the question, some people thought these celebrities might actually be AI, which would make more sense than actually having them on a set filming a commercial. But still, that's not what's happening here. Other users, here's one guy's response. He said they are not AI. Dream Games is, I guess, the company who produced Royal Kingdom was valued at $2.8 billion a couple of years ago. And that just nearly doubled after a recent $2.5 billion investment from CVC Capital Partners. They can definitely afford celebrities. What I don't understand is why the celebrities do it. According to Google, these celebrities get paid anywhere from $500,000 to $4 million. My current theory is that rich, famous people are so out of touch with ordinary people, they take the job thinking people actually play this game and aren't aware of how cringe they look. But it does feel like something more is going on somewhere. This game has a history of investors throwing money at it, and I don't entirely understand why. So that was his quote there. And even if it was AI, they would still have to pay the celebrities to use their likeness, right, or get their pants sued off, one of the two. Another user said this. I think this is about China owning certain celebrities. They make them do whatever they want, and obviously this app is some form of information-sucking scam. If you think it's crazy that China owns celebrities, dig a little deeper. You'll find it. Also, Big Pharma owns several celebrities, too. They've always made being a celebrity so glamorous and wealthy, but they signed their life away literally. It's crazy and extremely sick that people would actually do this just for fame and money. If you know, you know. And yet another one said, whoever truly owns this game has some crazy dirt and blackmail material on these celebrities. So a lot of users on this Reddit thread feel that it's very suspicious in some way. like a company that just launders money or something. Others think it might be related to the Epstein or Diddy client list, which, where are they? I guess we won't ever know where they are. It's because they don't seem to exist now. These big stacks and these big binders full of truckloads of information that Pam Bondi was telling us, just wait, just wait, I've got it, I've got it, we need to look through it, whatever, and now... There you go. It was kind of a gut punch, actually, to me to hear that the FBI couldn't find any evidence of a client list or even that Epstein didn't kill himself. Did you guys hear about this? I'm sure you did. For years, we've been talking about this, questioning whether or not Trump was on the list, the list, the list, the list, the list. Where's the list? I want to see the client list. Everybody in the CT community, otherwise known as the conspiracy theory community, in has been waiting with bated breath for someone, anyone to be arrested for diddling little kids. And now it's all just going to go away. There's a very profound meme that just showed up on the interwebs as of late, as of the last day after this announcement that the FBI couldn't find any evidence of a client list or that anybody needs to go to jail. It's a picture of Ghislaine Maxwell, because evidently she's the only one that's guilty of anything, right, that she's behind bars. And she's saying, if there are no clients, why am I in jail? That's all you need to think about right there. If there are no clients on the Epstein list or in Epstein's sphere or whatever, why is she in jail? We're going to get back, talk a little bit more about this right after this break. We'll be right back.
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And we're back after that little short break. And I was just kind of railing about the Epstein thing and about the client list and how it's, I'm just, I'm kind of furious. As to why or how, it's just going to go away. So how does that work? Several memes have been appearing on the Internet right now. One is from a guy, Gunther Eagle, I think it is. He says, right now my trust in government is at zero. On my desk, in quotes, and truck full. in quotes, is what we were told. The lies are blatant. Someone has some explaining to do. People have to go to jail. And I couldn't agree more. How many years has it been? And, you know, I know this whole thing kind of happened where we were questioning, yes, Trump's on the flight logs and whatever, and the people in the Trump camp are saying, like me, I've also said this, that, you know, yes, they were rubbing elbows with you know, they all rub elbows together, right? The billionaire class, they all kind of hang out together and whatever. And yes, they're seen at parties. And yes, they're photographed and videotaped at parties and whatever, whatever. But as soon as Trump found out that Epstein was a creep who was trafficking little kids, that was it. He kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. That's kind of the ongoing narrative in the Trump camp, okay? But now this, The FBI actually says there's no evidence that anything... So what happened? If there's no client list, who were they trafficking these kids to? Why is Ghislaine Maxwell sitting in jail if Epstein, you know, did what he did and it was all him? He just wanted kids, and he had no friends taking part in the same thing, and that's it. It was just, that's it. It was just Ghislaine Maxwell driving her submarine around to pick up little kids and bring them back to the island for just Epstein, and now Epstein is dead, and that's it. We're done. End of story. Move along. Nothing to see here. I don't buy it. Do you buy it? Oh, my gosh. to me it's maddening it's maddening to think about that this story this whole entire thing is just going to go away because there's no evidence that cash patel and dan bongino said nope can't find anything so one of the two either somebody got to them or the evidence was all destroyed because i can't see how epstein had this this island and this enterprise and this thing and um What's her name? Jufri, Virginia Jufri or whatever. She was just, I mean, nothing. Like, she's nobody. She's nothing. And she's dead now, too, according to the mainstream media. So that's it. I guess that's just it. We have nothing else to talk about, right? Okay. So you guys have heard me talk many times about being awake, right? or pre-awakened, or asleep, or whatever, or to the degree one would consider themselves awake. And it has been my experience over the course of the past 20 years or so that I can kind of look back on my whole journey of, and it all started with me kind of getting into politics, but I can look at my awakening journey, I'll call it, and I can recognize the different stages of where I was. So there was a time back during the Bush administration and Clinton, I guess you could say Clinton kind of started it with the AR ban and all that stuff. But, you know, fast forwarding to George W. Bush and I guess even George H.W. Bush and Desert Storm and all the stuff that happened there. And just, you know, you kind of know where you were, what you were doing, how much you cared or didn't care or whatever. Right. But you kind of, with each phase or with each event that happens or whatever, you kind of reevaluate your worldview and how everything works and how it's supposed to work and how it doesn't work and all that. So when you think about the major events that took place over the past maybe 20 to 30 years and even before that, those key events that alter your perception of our country, our leaders, et cetera. And You can either buy the official narrative, which most of us do, or at least did at some point, or you research and figure out what really happened, and more importantly, why it happened. And I can tell you that I look in awe at some people who have been fully 100% awake for 30 years or more. Because I'm just like, wow, how did you know? But that would have made me 30 years old and I was a new wife and getting to be a new mom and the whole thing. And your priorities change and you don't really focus on the stuff that some people have focused on for the last 30, 40 years. Personally, I think the development of technology and our ease of transmitting information is via the Internet, the World Wide Web, and social media, and all this stuff has made it much, much harder for the people in charge of keeping us all under control to do that. People from every country in the world can now send pictures and videos and documents to anywhere in the world in a split second. And if you think about this, the Internet itself, the Internet wasn't developed until the mid-'90s, the World Wide Web. And I remember being a student at Denver Institute of Technology back in 90, this was 95, 96. And the Internet was just coming around. And I remember sitting down in the lab at school, and one of my lab partners was telling me about the World Wide Web. And I'm like, what's that? I had no idea. And he's like, you don't know what the web is? And I said, no. And so he showed me this web and I'm like, I had no idea. And I know that sounds crazy because my generation, we watched all of this become a reality. And I'm 60 years old and I kind of embraced it because I saw it happen in my late 20s, early 30s. I saw it all unfold. And So I kind of embraced it because I was young enough to embrace it. My parents' generation kind of went into this whole technological age, kicking and screaming, and I guess depending on who you are. My dad, for example, he tried to embrace it, and he did okay with it. He had the Internet, he had the computer, and he would go do what he did on the Internet. He loved to play games. Solitaire, which was actually on his computer. He didn't need the Internet for that. But online banking, forget it. No way. Not happening. You know, he was very suspicious about everything, which he should have been. I guess that was very smart of him to think like that. And my mom, she used the Internet for Facebook, which I created her account for her. And she scrolled recipes. And she would sign up for everything. email subscription when it had to do with a recipe. She was that lady. She got dozens of recipes emailed to her every day as if she was going to cook all that stuff. Right. And then my dad passed away and then that was it. That was the end of her cooking. But my dad was more of a political person in general. So he used to go to all the political sites like WND and Newsmax. And, you know, Newsmax was the alternative conservative website. you know, source at the time, and he got all those emails, and he would read every word of every one of those emails, which I get that stuff now, and it just goes to my spam folder, and I delete it, you know what I mean? But that generation, or very few of them, would have had Instagram or Snapchat or TikTok on their smartphones, even if they had a smartphone, which most of them didn't, right? So I guess what I'm saying is that our generation, Gen X, as we're called, are the last generation that the crazy, power-drunk, deep state can potentially pull the wool over the eyes of. And my daughter's generation and those after her, they can't be fooled anymore. There's way too much information out there that counters the mainstream narratives. And once you find alternative sources of news and information, and I'm talking about reliable ones, I'm not talking about crazy, you know, whacked out conspiracy sites or whatever. I'm talking about places like OAN or Newsbusters is fun or to look at even stuff like Infowars. And you can say what you want to say about Alex Jones, but he's been right more than he's been wrong. So just stuff like that. And you find that kind of thing. And once these people find these news sources, your ABC, CBS, NBC, you know, HuffPo, New York Post, or New York Times, Washington Post, all those, they're just irrelevant to them. And, you know, the days of newspapers, printed newspapers are all but over, right? So the reason I'm talking about this is the idea of celebrity. Now, I kind of sidetracked a little bit, but I'm going to talk about the difference between the generations and the content that we saw on TV and movies prior to social media and the internet versus what we see now. As we discussed earlier, I was talking about Royal Kingdom and the gaming app and the celebrities and especially the big names are so rich, they probably couldn't spend all their money if they tried. And at the same time, we have this big homelessness problem, right, in this country that's just off the charts. The balance is off is what I'm saying. There is no balance. And you hear people talk about the homelessness and the homeless veterans that we have and all this money is spent on this other stuff and USAID and we've got homeless veterans on the street and the whole thing. And we know that there's a lot of stuff that's not right that's off. So the same celebrities who claim that we're all going to be underwater in 10 years because of climate change take private jets to their next movie premiere and spend their free time on yachts and all that stuff. You know what I'm talking about. They're on vacation. They're at the south of France sitting in the Mediterranean somewhere sipping on an $80 cocktail wearing whatever. You know what I'm talking about. So I'm in a place right now where I don't even go to movies anymore. Because I can't stand the actor or the actress starring in it. Mostly, and I'm being honest here, mostly because of their political views and their outspokenness about whatever, climate change or about Trump or the GOP or Elon Musk or whatever. And Rosie O'Donnell, you end up having to see her face because, you know, it's a big deal, evidently, that she moved to Ireland. But you know who they are. Kathy Griffin, even though she's kind of a B-lister, but Ellen DeGeneres, whatever. You know who I'm talking about. And I'll give Robert De Niro as a little example. I used to love Robert De Niro. I mean, I've never really been a fanatic about people, but I loved him. And Casino was one of my favorite movies, and I've seen it probably 10 times. Now I would not go to a theater to see a De Niro film if you paid me to go. I just, I can't stand him. I can't stand the sight of him just based on what he thinks, what he believes. And this might be all by design. This is part of that whole divide that we talked about that I think Obama's kind of responsible for. But another actor that I used to adore is Sean Penn. he's an amazingly talented actor and I loved him in dead man walking along with his equally insane co-star Susan Sarandon. And we can talk about, um, what's his name? Uh, Oh my gosh. Forrest Gump guy. Luke helped me out here. What's his name? Tom Hanks. Thank you. Um, So, you know, I look at all that, and I loved his movies. I loved his voiceovers in Toy Story, and I loved Forrest Gump, and I loved Big and Cast Away. And there's just, you know, he's done so much great stuff. And I just look at him differently now. And you guys probably all have the same sort of feelings. Stephen King used to be one of my favorite authors. That man can paint a picture in your mind with his words. He's a truly gifted writer. And I won't buy his books anymore. In fact, I had a whole bunch of Stephen King books, mostly paperbacks, and I donated them all to the library. I just don't even want them anymore. He's a lunatic, politically. Rob Reiner. I'm just not going to fund these people. They're all crazy to me. And that's a problem. And because of social media and you know they all have social media accounts it's just something that you can't I can't get past if I don't like you personally and I think you're kind of a of a jack-in-any why would I pay money to go see your work or why would I pay money to to you know download one of your songs or buy buy one of your movies or your books or whatever it's just I mean it's I'm not going to fund them. I'm not going to help pay their bills or buy their books or watch their movies when they're so diametrically opposed to how I feel about life in general. And frankly, I'm kind of just sick of watching it all and spending the money on it. And you should be too. You've heard the phrase, put your money where your mouth is, and that can go the opposite way. You know, pull your money out of things that you don't agree with. That's why we're boycotting Bud Light and we were doing all those things against Target and the whole thing is that, you know, you got to hit him in the pocketbook. You should stop funding these celebrities with your hard-earned money. What little you have left over from paying your taxes anyway. So the excess that we see on our TV and the movie screens is just, well, it's disgusting when you really stop and think about it. And I remember being horrified when I found out that the stars, you remember the TV show Friends? I was horrified when I found out that they were demanding. Now, this was obviously after Friends had run for a couple seasons, and they recognized the popularity of the show, and they started demanding more money when their contracts would come up and the show would be renewed, and they would renew the actor's or actress's contract. I think they were demanding like a million dollars per episode. And, you know, I don't know. If you think about how much money that show was making, right, and all the advertisers that were contributing to the show and the whole thing, yeah, there was a lot of money to be had, and they wanted their cut of it. And I guess I understand that, but a million dollars? because you might work a 12- or 13-hour day, you win a million bucks. My daughter works 12- to 13-hour shifts when she works. Her husband works 48, sometimes 72-hour shifts. I don't think I need to tell you that neither of them makes a million dollars a day. Oh, and this leads me to something that I consider part of the problem in our society right now. And that is all the crap that we glorify and call it good TV. And I'll call them out right now, TLC, you have some explaining to do. Because they're probably the perpetrators of most of the stuff that I'm about to talk about. I was thinking about what we call the seven deadly sins. Did you guys see the movie Seven Deadly Sins? And that's probably part of the problem as well, but they kind of talked about the seven deadly sins and how many of them are not only shown on every TV screen in the world, but they're glorified and they're praised from television to movies to music to politics. This is Satan's playground, in my opinion. So to anchor this, let's recall what the seven deadly sins are. Do you guys remember what they are? Do you know what they are? Pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth. Traditionally, these vices were considered grave ethical pitfalls. Yet today, their presence in our media landscape is often celebrated. But why? How did we reach the point where the very traits that ancient wisdom warned us about are now painted in glamorous, irresistible ways? So let's start with pride. I don't think we need to reach very far to find the most glaring example of pride. The month that we just finished, first of all, June being Pride Month, right? But pride is also on full display in everything having to do with Hollywood and advertising and makeup and just the different reality shows and the TV shows and stuff that we watch, the entertainment industry as a whole, right? and the people who work in it. Pride is everywhere, right? So that's kind of a general one. Greed is the next one. Do we really need to explain this one in terms of big corporations, big government? They're all greedy as hell and stealing our money and robbing us blind for their own benefit. Greed is a given. And we'll go back to talk about Friends, and they wanted the million dollars an episode. That's pretty greedy, and there was negotiations going on because the producers of Friends were like, oh, we got bills to pay, and those bills are being paid at ridiculous rates, and greed, greed, money, money, money, money, right? So let's go to lust. Again, I don't think I need to elaborate on this one. Sex sells. This has always been the case. And I don't see that changing anytime soon. And you look at shows like, and this is TLC, stuff like 90 Day Fiance, Love Island. And I don't watch these shows. I just see them pop up. I watch Investigation Discovery. I'm kind of a true crime lover. And I watch those and I see the advertisements for shows like Love Island and 90 Day Fiance. And, you know, even shows like The Bachelor and The Bachelorette, they all prey on the desires of the average human being that's watching. Envy. This one is a little more subtle when it comes to the entertainment industry, but when you really think about it, what you see on the screen invokes feelings of, I wish I was her. I wish I was him. I wish I had that lifestyle. I wish I had a yacht. I wish I had a limo. I wish I could walk on the red carpet and go to this movie premiere. And I wish I had cameras focused on me the entire time. And I wish I had a makeup artist and wearing a $100,000 gown and some borrowed $6 million jewelry from Cartier or whatever. We're programmed to be envious of the people we see on the screen. And then we go to gluttony. And This one, if you watch any episode of a show like Man Vs. Food, or there's a YouTube channel from a guy, I think his name is The Bearded Foodie or something like that, or watch the guy who wins all the hot dog eating competitions for the rest of time. I don't know. I can't even remember the guy's name, but you've probably seen him. He's stuffing hot dogs in his face. Yeah. You know, you think about the excess that we watch even on something as benign as the Food Network. How many of you guys watch that channel? Have you ever seen any of the Halloween or Christmas baking championships where they make these monstrosities of cakes that are, like, taller than me or sugar sculptures or what? Why? It's indulgent and it's excessive. And all that food, all those ingredients, they go in the trash. You know they do. And gluttony isn't just about food. It's more, more, more. Me, me, me. Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. Like I said earlier, these disgustingly rich celebrities have multiple beachfront homes or New York penthouses, limos, and the finest jewelry and the designer clothing and the best of everything. And, again, they walk from their limo-driven car, and they get to their movie premiere, and they have somebody open their door, and they have armed security. And, you know, there's probably a homeless guy a block away who's living on the streets, probably a veteran. And most of them don't even bat an eye. They drive that past there and whatever. So next one is wrath. Every Hollywood movie has a villain. And it doesn't matter if he or she is a character we love to hate. It doesn't matter. That actor or actress is making millions off the wrath of that character. So wrath, anger, you know, hatred, people make money off of it in the entertainment industry. And then we have sloth. And this one really bothers me. Shows like My 600-lb Life, again, a TLC show, or Thousand-lb Sisters, again, a TLC show. Or we can put this show into a different category, but the Sister Wives, all about polygamy and having more than one wife. And, you know, yeah, maybe watching these shows doesn't really produce feelings of envy or, you know, you're not really glorifying anything. being gigantic and can't sit in a car, can't get in bed, can't take a shower, can't live on your own. They're not making it appealing in any way, but the people who are subjects of the show are making money off of their sickness and their morbidities, right? And if you wanted to take this step a step further, let's talk about shows like Hoarders or Balin Out Loud. One is about people with a mental condition causing them to keep every scrap of everything they've ever owned and house it all in their homes to the point where they can't even move in their house anymore. They have rats or mice nesting in their piles of trash and boxes and whatever. If you guys have ever seen it, it's like, oh, yes. And bailing out loud about a young woman who has Tourette's syndrome. And because of the nature of that disease, the production crew, I'm sure, has to bleep out half of the dialogue of the movie or of the show that they use in every episode. So just contrast this all with our shows of our generation and before us. Shows like Little House on the Prairie and the Waltons and the Brady Bunch. Remember, go back in time for me for a moment. Back when shows would teach people that there are consequences for your actions, They teach you right versus wrong, family values, all of that, right? At the same time, think about the Brady Bunch. It was probably pretty controversial even at the time with the Brady Bunch, considering you had two people with three children each from previous marriages. Probably pretty scandalous, right? And now look at where we are. And this is called progress. If this is progress, I think we need to reevaluate the word and determine its meaning that's not such a good thing. To me, progress should be figuring out who's trying to put the screws to all of us and exposing them for their evil deeds and what they're exposing us to and what they're exposing our kids to. It should be teaching kids that there are consequences for their actions and quit with this gentle parenting nonsense. It should be teaching the value of hard work and being happy with the way you look or what you have. And if you're not happy with it, you change it. You exercise, you eat right, you drink water, you do whatever. But we don't have to go to the Internet and claim that being morbidly obese is beautiful or that demanding a million dollars for a 13-hour day is reasonable because it's not. So that's going to do it for me today, you guys. I want to thank you so much for tuning in to Shooting the Breeze and spending the last 58 minutes with me in the fastest hour in broadcasting. Make sure you guys visit Franktown Firearms' website. Go to FranktownFirearms.com or COCQB or ColoradoCQB.com and check for the latest class offerings. And remember, you can always opt for private training if you just want to brush up on your skills or learn to safely handle a firearm and you have no desire to carry concealed. I can help you with that. You can send me an email, karen.murray at franktownfirearms.com. We can help you achieve your goals no matter what they are, even house lights. It doesn't matter. I can help you with whatever you need. Mama Glock is out for now, you guys. Take care, everyone. Enjoy your day. 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Join Kim Monson and her special guest, Bill Federer, as they dissect the threads of history that continue to influence our present-day America. From the pre-King Saul era to the founding ideals of a republic, this episode challenges listeners to reflect on the responsibility of citizenship and the moral compass that guides societal structures. Bill's captivating narratives from his extensive literary work illuminate the complex tapestry of America's journey and underscore the critical junctures of liberty and governance.
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Well, I can't believe how many books that you have written. And we've talked about the Declaration. And at the end of the show, I normally will share a quote. I thought, well, I'll see if there's a Bill Fetter quote that I could share. And then I do this quick search. Oh, my gosh, there's not just a quote. There's a book. You have, and I've got to order it, America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations. So tell me about this book.
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Well, it's 845 pages of God and country quotes arranged alphabetically by the person. So Abigail Adams is at the front, and Jefferson and Lincoln and Madison and George Washington and Booker T. Washington. It is the one book that I have that people say that I use. The other ones they say, oh, I've read, but this one I use. And I've had congressmen. I was out in Texas not long ago, and Louie Gohmert came up and he said, I can't tell you how many times I've quoted out of your book on the floor of Congress. Oh, my gosh. Even the Supreme Court had a case in 2003. It was called The City of Greece, New York. where they had a city council open with prayer in Jesus' name. ACLU sues to stop them, and Anthony Kennedy wrote the decision. He said, even our Continental Congress opened with prayer in Jesus' name. It's okay, and gave the prayer, and then gave the source, WFED or America's Got Country. Anyway, it's been a resource for teachers and students and papers and newspapers Anyway, it's our most popular book. It's sold over half a million copies. Focus on the Family sold several hundred thousand copies of it. But I've written about 30 books since then. One's a series my wife and I did called Miracles in American History. Stories from our country's past, where there's crisis, it looks hopeless, and they pray and have courage, and things turn around. Rivers rise, allowing Washington's troops to escape. Fogs come in. Sergeant Alvin York, capturing 132 Germans, World War I, comes back and starts a Bible school. Patton had his Third Army come into the rescue of the 101st Airborne at Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge, and he's pinned down by the weather, and he gets his chaplain, James O'Neill, and ordered him to compose a prayer. And they printed out a quarter of a million index cards, give it to the soldiers, and as Patton's Christmas greeting to his troops on the flip side. Well, they pray it, and the next day the sky clears, and they're able to march and stop the Nazis in their blitzkrieg. And a couple months later, the war ends. And so it's just a fascinating collection of these stories called Miracles in American History. I did one on the history of socialism, another on the history of Islam, another on the history of St. Patrick, another on the history of St. Nicholas Christmas traditions. One, I went through all the speeches of FDR. I was amazed that he was in office 12 years, got elected four times as president. They since passed the 22nd Amendment limiting a president to two terms. But I read through all of his addresses. He was Episcopalian. He gave out Gideon's New Testaments and Book of Psalms to all the soldiers in World War II. He wrote the foreword, As Commander-in-Chief, I take pleasure in commending the reading of the Bible to all who serve in the Armed Forces. And this was the liberal FDR passing out New Testaments. So since then, both the left and the right have moved to the left. But it's just a fascinating history in that particular book.
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Boy, absolutely fascinating, but I need to get this because I share quotes all the time on the show, and what a great resource. It sounds to me like it's one of those books, again, people should have hard copy in their freedom library at home because it can give inspiration. We are, Bill Federer, in quite a time right now, and we're broadcasting this the day after Independence Day. And I feel that we are in the third founding of our country right now. We are really being asked, who are we as Americans? And that's why looking at our history and taking hope and inspiration from these stories of our founding and the Civil War and the Battle of Gettysburg was fought July 1 through July 3. This is such an interesting time. And then the fact that that 50 years after the Declaration of Independence in 1826, that both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson die on the same day, and then James Monroe, who was one of our presidents as well, he died on Independence Day. This doesn't seem like it's by accident to me.
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Right. We forget the fact that we're unique. One of the books I did called Change to Chains, it's a play on words there, but I go all the way back to the beginning of recorded human history. Not prehistory, not handprints on cave walls. We're talking an actual functioning language. And you have Sumerian cuneiform is invented around 3300 BC. You have Egyptian hieroglyphics invented around 3000 BC. Chinese pictogram characters invented around 2600 BC. But you round it out around 3000 or 4000 BC is when what we know as writing was invented and record keeping was invented. And we're around 2080, so that's around 5,000 or 6,000 years of human beings writing down human records. But during this period of time, the most common form of government is what? Well, it's gangs. The default setting for human government is gangs, clans, tribes. And a gang leader with enough weapons we call a king. And they go by different names. Pharaoh, Caesar, Kaiser, Sultan, Tsar. But power wants to concentrate into the hands of one person. And it's a selfishness. It goes back to Cain killing Abel. The only difference is the weapon improves. Instead of Cain killing Abel with a rock, the kings can kill with bronze weapons or iron weapons or big, long phalanx spears that the Greek soldiers had or a scimitar sword that the Muslims had or gunpowder that the Chinese invented or chips with low keels that the Vikings invented or, you know, The weapon improves, but it's that same fallen nature of king, kill, and able. And as the centuries go on, the king of England ended up being the most powerful king on the planet. The sun never set on the British Empire. They had India, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, British Guiana, Canada, Barbados, Bermuda, Jamaica, and America. And our founders decided they didn't like a globalist, one-world government king telling us what to do. And so they broke away and flipped it and made the people the king. So kings have subjects who are subjected to their will. The republics have citizens. The word citizen is Greek. It means co-ruler, co-sovereign, co-king. So when the citizens pledge allegiance to the flag and to the republic, we're basically pledging allegiance to us being in charge of ourselves. But when somebody protests the flag, what they're saying is, I don't want to be king anymore. I protest this system, or I participate in ruling myself. It's like, okay, somebody else will be happy to tell you what to do. So America is an experiment of bottom-up versus top-down. And when they set up the Constitution, they basically took the power of a king and broke it into three branches, executive, legislative, judicial, pitting them against each other. So James Madison said, there's no angels on earth to govern us. All we have is humans. We're all selfish. And so the selfishness in the executive branch. will always try to pull power away from the legislative and judicial. And the selfishness in the legislative branch will always try to pull power away from the executive and judicial. And the selfishness in the judicial branch will try to pull power away from the executive and legislative. So greed checks greed, ambition checks ambition. And it's actually a stroke of genius. It would be the equivalent of a Sunday school teacher giving an assignment. Go home and design a system of government where sinners keep other sinners from sinning. That's what I found. It's greedy, selfish people keep keeping other greedy, selfish people from being greedy, selfish. And so and then they took the power and separated federal to state level. And then they tied up this federal Frankenstein with 10 handcuffs. We call the first 10 amendments. In other words, their whole preoccupation was to take the power of a king and scatter it, take the Tower of Babel and scatter it. They had experienced what it was like being under the most powerful, concentrated power king in the world and in world history, the king of England, they said, we've been down that road. Let's go down the other road. Let's trust the people. Let's decentralize it. People may make mistakes, but we've been down the other road. We know where it leads. Let's try this. And so America is an experiment of people ruling themselves. And it only works if the people have morals and virtue. All the founders wrote about this. Plato wrote about this in his Republic. He says that a democracy only works if the people have virtue, and if they give up their virtue, it turns into lawlessness. Then, when there's lawlessness, people want somebody with enough power to restore order. Then along will come a protector who's all smiles, who promises everything to everybody, and he'll start concentrating power. If people cast it in his teeth that he's getting too powerful, And then he has a choice. Give up the power, which he's not inclined to do because Plato called him a lover of power or get rid of the people confronting him. And he purges his military, his police, his Department of Justice, of anybody with morals and virtue. And all I want is yes. And then he finally stands up in the chariot of state holding the reins of power. And he's revealed as a tyrant. So democracies and republics where people don't have virtue, don't have morals, where you teach your kids there's no right, there's no wrong, you can do whatever you want, every day it changes, and you shove these kids out on the street in this lawlessness, then you're going to have people saying, government, you've got to do something to stop all this random violence and killing. And the government says, we're happy to. We're just going to take away your Second Amendment. We're going to take away your freedom of speech because you might set somebody off. We're going to take away your privacy so we can track you everywhere. And so... I did another book on the history of socialism. Whenever you have a dictator wanting to take over, the first thing he does is to create domestic crises. Let in illegals and let there be lawlessness and have the currency become devalued. They want to create a lawless situation so that the public begins to cry out for somebody to come in with enough power to restore order. And then they come along as the hero, saying, we'll restore order, but when the dust settles, you've just given up the bottom-up form of government and transitioned to a top-down form of government. So you learn these lessons from history, but at the time of America's founding, We were breaking away from the most powerful king that planet Earth had ever seen. The sun never set on the British Empire. It's fascinating. I did another book called Who is the King in America? It's the people. I go through, where did America's founders get these ideas? Well, they got them from the Age of Enlightenment. But prior to that, they got them from the New England pastors. And where did they get their ideas? From their little congregational churches, which was different than the hierarchical church. And these churches, the Baptists, the Presbyterians, the Quakers, they got their idea from the Reformation. They refer to the Bible, but what part of the Bible... that first 400 years out of Egypt before King Saul.
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Okay. Let's have that as a stopping point for right now. I'm talking with Bill Federer. He's the creator of the American Minute. How many books have you written?
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About 30.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And a couple of great sponsors of the show, goal sponsors of the show, is the Harris family. I so greatly appreciate them. On the line with me is Bill Federer. He's written over 30 books. You can find him at the American Minute. And we're talking about several of his books. This America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations. I would highly recommend that all of us have this in our homes, in our Freedom Library. And as we went to break, you had just mentioned the Israelites in the 400 years in the Bible. So what was that reference about, Bill Federer?
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Right, so you have the kings of England look to the Bible for their authority, but they look to the King Saul and on part of the Bible, and the Calvinist Puritans and Baptists and Presbyterians and Quakers and Congregationalists that founded colonies in America, they look to the pre-King Saul part of the Bible. This 400-year period of millions of people and no king. So we go back in history. King is the norm. Around 1400 BC, you have an anomaly. You have millions of Israelites coming out of Egypt, and they come into the Promised Land. And for 400 years, there's no king. It's totally unique in history. It's so counter. And it's not like the Greeks and Romans, right, where they do a trial and error, you know, read through the Greek history and life surges, and they'll have, like, different, you know, committees of the wealthy and the patricians. Israel was one download. It all came down at once. And it's a system where everybody is taught the law. And everybody is personally accountable to God to follow the law. The law wants everybody to be fair to each other. And God's going to hold you accountable in the future. So you're about to steal. Nobody's around. You know you can get away with it. And then you think, God's watching me. He wants me to be fair. He's going to hold me accountable in the future. Maybe I should hesitate stealing. And it creates something in your head called a conscience. If everybody in the country really believes this, you can maintain complete order with no police. Maximum liberty. Women can go anywhere without fear. You don't have to lock the door. And it worked for four centuries until the priest stopped teaching it. You say, what? Yeah, here's Eli, the high priest. His own sons are sleeping with women in the very tent where the Ark of the Covenant is. And then another Levite with a silver graven image in the house of a guy named Micah. The tribe of Dan comes along, steals the graven image and tells this Levite, come along with us. You can be a priest to our whole tribe. And you're reading the story in the book of Judges, scratching your head, saying, what's this Levite doing with a graven image? Isn't that one of the commandments? You're not supposed to have them. And then the terrible story of a Levite with a concubine. The law says the Levite is to marry a virgin of his own tribe. Here he is with a woman he's not even married to. They're traveling. Their house gets surrounded by sodomites. Something about that behavior that appears at the last stages of a people ruling themselves, this casting off the self-restraint. The poor concubines raped to death, and by the time you're grossed out, you read this line, every man did that which was right in their own eyes. Why? Because the priests stopped teaching them what was right in the Lord's eyes. They lost the fear of God. They lost the knowledge of the law. It turns into this selfish lawlessness, and they all go to Samuel the prophet. And they say this self-government system's not working anymore. We want to be like the other countries. We want a king. Samuel cries and the Lord tells him they did not reject you. They rejected me. And so they get King Saul. Now, why is this story important? Because the kings of Europe look to the Bible for their authority. But they look to the King Saul and on part of the Bible, the divine right of kings. God chose me. And the Calvinist Puritans that founded New England, they looked to the pre-King Saul period of the Bible. Millions of people, everybody taught the law, accountable to God to follow it. So King Saul is the divider between England and America.
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Wow.
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And so why is this important? Romans 13. People that go to church might be familiar with this verse. It says, let everyone be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. It's like, okay, in a monarchy, the authority is the king. And in a republic, the people are. So Romans 13 is understood differently in a monarchy versus a republic. In a monarchy, subjects submit to the king. In a republic, the citizens are the king. The politicians are your servants. You hire them, you fire them, you vote them in, you vote them out. They're supposed to do what you tell them to do. So the churches that say, oh, we've got to submit to the government, we've got to submit to the... They need to pick up and move to China and North Korea. And when Nebuchadnezzar blows the trumpet, they just surrender their control. Okay, I'll bow. But in America, we're the pre-King Saul part of the believers of the Bible. We're where we don't have a king. Everybody's taught the law and personally accountable to God to follow it. And the politicians do what we tell them to do. And so when you get into this unique, and John Calvin was the one that pioneered this. So you had the Reformation in 1517, Martin Luther, and then you have large percentages of countries not believing the way their king does. So wherever there's a king, you have to believe the way the king does or he burns you at the stake or considered treason. But in 1572, Spain controls the Netherlands. And the King Philip II does not like the fact that the Netherlands have now become Dutch reformed. And so he sends the Iron Duke of Alba to Antwerp, Holland, and he commits the Spanish fury. He kills 10,000 of these Dutch Reformed and leaves their bodies lying in the streets. And the same year, 1572, the Queen of France, Catherine de' Medici, does not like the fact that 10% of France has become Huguenot Protestant. And she's a little more creative. She organizes a wedding of the main Huguenot leader, Henry of Navarre, with her daughter, Margaret. And it's in Paris. And all the Huguenot leaders are there. A couple days after the wedding, she has her soldiers pull chains across the streets so the carriages cannot ride out of town. And she sends her men house to house. They kill 30,000 of these Huguenots and throw their bodies in the Seine River. And so you had lots of killing going on at this time. You had Catholics killing Protestants, Protestants killing Catholics. I don't want to get into all that. But in the French-speaking area of Switzerland, you have a guy named John Calvin. And he says, we are subject to the men who rule over us, but subject only in the Lord. If they command anything against him, let us not pay the least regard to it. So there's a caveat there. There's a situation where you don't. And it's like Ephesians 6. Children, obey your parents. But what if there's a bad parent who tells the kid to sell themselves into prostitution? Is that child supposed to obey that parent? No, the child obeys the parent as long as the parent's telling them to do something that lines up with God's word. You obey the government as long as the government's telling you to do something that lines up with God's word. Why would God tell you to do something in his word and then tell you to submit to a government that tells you not to do what he just got done telling you to do? Fascinating. It's exactly what Martin Luther King Jr. wrote in his letter from the Birmingham jail, 1963. One may well ask, how can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others? The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws, just and unjust. One has a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. How does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? A just law is a man-made code that squares with the moral law or the law of God. So these Calvinist Puritans come up with a way to have a government without a king. It's called a covenant form of government. And you get rights from the creator and you are fair to your neighbor because you're accountable to the creator and he's not a respecter of persons. You get blessings from the creator and you voluntarily share them with your neighbor as charity because you're doing it as under the Lord. It's not socialism where the government takes away your stuff involuntarily and distributes it to supporters in exchange for votes. No, this is where it's your stuff. And when you're moved upon you. And so this covenant form of government is a way to maintain order without a king who rules through fear. So kings rule through fear all the way from Nimrod on. That's the electricity. That's the motivating force. The king ultimately can kill you. And and so that's the norm. You have a bad king. You fight. You get rid of him. You put in a good king. But then his son is bad. And now you're back where you started and you have to overthrow him. And then you put another good king and his son is bad. I mean, who who's the best king, David? David's oldest son, Amnon, rapes his sister, Tamar, and then is murdered by another brother, Absalom, who tries to overthrow David. I mean, this is David's own sons, right? And so the brilliance of a covenant form of government is you get rid of a bad king and you maintain order with a covenant form of government so that the rubber band doesn't snap back with the new king. And so it only works if the people fear God rather than fear the government. And so Calvinist Puritans come up with this covenant form of government. It's taken to New England, and that's what they set up in these colonies. And so these Puritans would have one building in each town called a meeting house. That's where the pastor would teach the Bible, and that's where they would do their city business. The word synagogue means meeting house. That's where the rabbi would teach the law, and that's where they would do their city business. Why build a separate building just to talk about a different topic? That's a good point. The Puritans had a key word, participation. So everybody's involved in church, just like the pre-King Saul part of Israel. Everybody was involved, the assembly of the Israelites. Just like Jesus said, upon this rock, I'll build my church. That word church in Greek is ekklesia. E-K-E-K means out of and ekklesia means a calling. So there were 6,000 citizens in the Greek city of Athens, and they would call them out of their homes to the Agora marketplace, and they would all get involved in fixing the city. We've got to fix the walls, got to get our Navy going, got to take care of the kids, and everybody is a part. And Jesus chose this word. He said, upon this rock, I'll build my ecclesia, my calling out, my body. Everybody has to be a part, an eye, an ear, a foot. So it's a participation model versus the hierarchical model that the king of England had. The king had a clergy-laity model where the clergy does the ministry and the laity is lazy and watches them. You've got the king, under him is the Archbishop of Canterbury, Archbishop of York, and the deaneries and vicars and curates and rectors and priests, and your relationship with God through this hierarchical structure, and you're watching them do the ministry. But the congregational model is where the pastor trains the saints to do the work of the ministry. You get involved, and as you're faithful in the very little, you're entrusted with more. And everything that grows takes in and gives out. Every muscle to grow has to be exercised. You don't just hear a good sermon and watch somebody else minister. You hear a good sermon and then put yourself in a position where there's a need and the Holy Spirit will use you to meet the need. And it's training the body. And so this congregational model is what the pilgrims and Puritans and Baptists and Presbyterians and Quakers and Congregationalists brought to New England. And so that was the 1600s. It was an amazing century of developing this covenant form of government. But after a century, it got a little dry.
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Okay. Well, let's keep that as our cliffhanger there, Bill Federer.
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Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force people to do it. A great organization to support, particularly this week of Independence Day week, would be to make a contribution. to help the Center for American Values continue the great educational programs that they are putting together, as well as honoring our Medal of Honor recipients. And so check out all that they're doing by going to AmericanValueCenter.org. That's AmericanValueCenter.org. And make a contribution. It's a great way to say thank you for my freedom. We'll be right back. One is America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations. And we're going to be getting to silence equals consent. But our cliffhanger, Bill Fetter, was you said in the 1600s, there'd been this covenant form of government, but it was getting a little dry. So what happened?
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Right. So it's in the Puritan mindset is God has a plan. He has a plan for government. He has a plan for your life, your marriage, your family, everything. Some took it the next step and said God in his infinite wisdom already knows who's going to wind up in heaven. So don't even bother preaching the gospel. And they became unevangelistic. And David Brainerd got expelled from Yale because he said his professor was as spiritual as a chair. And the Yale students got reprimanded because they went into the town of New Haven and they were caught presenting the gospel to strangers on the street. It's like, oh, how terrible. I mean, they weren't like tearing things down and setting things on fire. No, no, no. It was considered disrespectful that they weren't licensed yet to preach. They did not have black robes on. They were not in a formal setting of a church, and it was considered disrespectful. And so when the 1700s came along, you had what's called the new lights. And these are people that say, look, it's more than a plan. You have to have an experience with Jesus. And when you do, your life will change, and you won't do worldly things anymore, like go to bars and brothels and get involved in government. Wait, what was that last thing? Yeah, government. It's worldly. If you're really Christian, you're not going to be involved in government. You're going to be holy. And it's like, well, wait a second. That's different than the first century of America. This first century had participation. You had people involved in church, and you had people involved in civil government. Where now they're coming along saying, no, no, no, don't be involved in government. It's worldly. So let's unpack where the pietas came from. Reformation starts 1517 because Martin Luther had a personal experience with Jesus, right? The just shall live by faith. So personal, he was willing to stand up to the most powerful government leader in the world, the King of Spain, at the Diet of Worms trial and say to his face, unless you can prove me wrong from Scripture, here I stand, so help me, God. It was very personal to Martin Luther. But some German princes have been waiting for a chance to break from Rome. And they say, this is my chance. Kingdom of mine, I just decided you're all now Lutherans. And the people in the kingdom are like, great, we're Lutheran. What do we believe? And so for the people in these kingdoms, it's not the same personal experience necessarily that Martin Luther had. It's just a new state doctrine. So a revival movement starts called pietism. that said being a christian is more than doctrine even if it's good doctrine you have to have an experience with jesus and when you do your life will change and you won't do worldly things anymore like bars and brothels and food theater and get involved in government and it turned into the german concept of the two kingdoms the kingdom of the government the kingdom of the church the two don't touch And so where the Puritans said, you can do two things. You can be a spouse and you can be a parent. Two completely different roles, but one person can do both. You can do two things. You can be involved in church stuff. You can be involved in state stuff. But not the pietists. Their key word is withdrawal. They're like, no, no, no, don't be involved in state stuff. It's worldly. And you're now holy, so you've got to withdraw. So that brings up a scenario. If all the spiritual people withdraw from politics... Who's left to be involved but the less spiritual? And because they're less spiritual, they're going to yield to their power-hungry side and ambitions. And so there were even German princes who donated money to the pietists so they would teach their people not to get involved in the prince's business. Here's a little more money. Stay out of my hair. I mean, it's like George Soros and Rockefellers giving money to woke seminaries to teach Christians not to get involved in politics, while at the same time, they're giving money to LGBTQ activists to get them involved. Well, four centuries of this teaching, this two kingdom teaching in Germany, allowed Hitler to put Jews on train cars. And they're going right past the churches crying for help. And the people in the church can hear them crying. But their response was, well, that's the government doing that. And we're the church and we can't get involved in government stuff because we're holy. So let's just sing praise songs to Jesus louder. It's like, can anybody see there's something wrong with this picture?
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There's something wrong with this picture. Bill, I want to interject here. Producer Steve had sent something over from a quote by Martha Gellhorn. She was an American novelist, writer, and journalist. It says, people often say with pride, I'm not interested in politics. They might as well say I'm not interested in my standard of living, my health, my job, my rights, my freedoms. by future or any future, if we mean to keep any control over our world and lives, we must be interested in politics. And so I've kept that around just to read that every once in a while.
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Yeah, well, the word polis, P-O-L-I-S, is Greek for city. Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Annapolis, Maryland, right? Polis means city, and politics is the business of the city. And in New England, you had churches founding cities, right? And so there were like no non-church members to be lazy and let them run stuff. So everybody was involved in the church and everybody was involved in the civil government. But then the revolution starts and the British send over a military governor, Thomas Gage, and he outlaws meeting houses. Democracy is too prevalent in America. We don't need the people meeting and giving their consent to stuff. You just obey government mandates. And we're like, no, nothing happens in America unless we participate, unless we give our consent to it. He's like, no, you obey government mandates. We're like, no, nothing happens over in America unless we participate, unless we give our consent to it. He's like, no, you're a robot. You're a zombie. When the government blows the trumpet, you bow to the statue. You just jump. And we're like, no, nothing happens in America unless we give our consent. Turns into a revolutionary war and we win. And we set up our government where it's we, the people, government from the consent of the governed. And so our founders did not like governments who ruled through mandates. Matter of fact, the whole purpose of the Constitution was to take the power of a king, separate it into three branches, separate it federalist to state level, tied it up with ten handcuffs. The purpose of the Constitution is to prevent a president from ruling through mandates. I say that again. They wanted to stop there from being another king. They didn't like top down government. And so this was the miracle of America is where democracies like in Athens, every citizen had to be at every meeting every day to talk about every issue. And if you didn't keep up with the issues that they're talking about today, you're called an idiotus, an idiot. But it could not grow any larger than a city, so they called them city-states, because you physically had to be there. A republic is where you take care of your family and your farm, and you have someone in your place that goes to the market every day and talks politics. They are your representative. And so it's an easy way to remember the word republic begins with three letters, R-E-P, and the word representative begins with three letters, R-E-P. So a Republican form of government is a representative form. You're still in charge. You just sort of subcontracted out somebody to go and sit there in your place all day and keep up with this stuff and then report back to you versus a democracy where you literally had to be there. Now, democracies can be swept up easier with a mob spirit. Plato witnessed an admiral who was in a battle. They won, but there was a storm and a bunch of sailors drowned and he wasn't able to rescue him. And the people of Athens got so stirred up in this mob frenzy that they killed the admiral. And Plato's like, this thing, this mobocracy, you know, where a republic, since it's one step removed from the citizens, because they have to take the time, cool down, tell the representatives, and the representatives go and discuss stuff and then come back and report. There's a little bit of a cooling. The republic governments change slower. And now in America, we have a constitutional republic. So our representatives have limits, have guidelines, have borders. They can only do a certain amount of stuff. And so we have a constitutional republic. But the idea is that we get to rule ourselves. And when we have a crisis, though, that's when people surrender their freedoms. i um put together a book called socialism and i go through if democracies and republics are attempts to take the power of the king give it to the people what if the king wants the power back does he just ask for it hi i want to be king give me control your life most people are in a hurry to give that up so there's two ways that the king can take the power back fear and free stuff you can get the whole entire population into fear they will panic and surrender their freedom in exchange for security or you get them to get dependent on free stuff and they'll incrementally give up their freedom to keep the free stuff coming so it's a front door back door approach sort of like a drug drug dealer takes over a neighborhood two ways he can come in with guns get everybody in fear and they'll panic and submit to the mob pay extortion protection money Or the drug dealer is so nice, he's giving away free drugs until you get hooked. And then you want some more free drugs, you're going to incrementally give up your freedom until you're selling yourself into prostitution. So it's like a hunter catches animals with guns or bait. Guns is a front door approach and bait is this back door approach. And And so those are methods in which the king can take the power back away from the people, the citizens, by creating atmosphere of fear and then or getting the people dependent on free stuff.
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Well, let's go to break, and when we come back, let's talk about your book, Silence Equals Consent, because I think that that is probably one of the most important issues that we have. Over the years, I had felt when they said, don't talk about politics or don't talk about religion, it was a way of actually – Self-censoring. And I've realized how dangerous that is. So I want to talk with Bill Fetter about that when we come back. We have great sponsors, and one of those is Lauren Levy.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of our sponsors. And a sponsor that's been a great sponsor of the show for many years, as well as America's Veterans Stories, is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great lunch specials and great Wings Day specials on Wednesdays. How I got to know them. It is really an important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that want to control things. And this was something that happened when I was on city council. That whole story is at my website, KimMonson.com. This is the final segment with Bill Federer. He is the creator of the American Minute. We've been talking about two of his books. One is America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations. And then his book, and that is Silence Equals Consent. And there's so many people these days, Bill Federer, that... They don't want to get involved. They're afraid that if they get involved, they might rock the boat. Their jobs might be on the line or relationships might be on the line. And we used to I used to adhere to this to not talk politics or religion because they said, you don't do that in polite company. It's like, well, wait a minute. What do you talk about? But what I realized what it really was, was a form of self-censorship. So I think all those things are connected, Bill.
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Right. So to those that think they're being holy by not being involved, what do you do with Numbers chapter 30? It's the silence equals consent chapter. Half a dozen scenarios. One, if a daughter is still living in her father's house in her youth and binds herself with a vow and the day the father hears about it, it'd be silent. Her vows stand. But if he disallows it, she's released from the vow. That's come down to us as vows in a wedding ceremony. And the pastor tells the church members, if you are silent when you hear these vows, you're giving your consent. Speak now or forever hold your peace. It's called the rule of tacit admission, T-A-C-I-T. And it's in real estate law. You save up money, buy a rent house. If somebody moves in, a squatter or something, and they're not paying rent and you're not trying to evict them, They can gain title to your property through adverse possession just by you being silent. It's in debt collection law. Somebody owes you money, you wait 10 years to try to start collecting. The judge will say you're past the statute of limitations. If you really thought they owed you money, you It would not have been silent for so long. It's in trademark law. You design a trademark, somebody flat out copies it. And if you know about it and you do not defend your trademark, they get to use it. It's in our U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 7. Congress passes a bill, puts it on the president's desk. If any bill shall not be returned by the president within 10 days, the same is law in like manner as if he had signed it. His silence equals a signature. And so if church members are silent at a wedding ceremony and that's their consent, if they're silent when they're killing babies in the community, they're given their consent. And so Leviticus 20, any Israelite who sacrifices a child to Molech is to be put to death. But if the members of the community close their eyes when that man sacrifices one of his children to Molech, I myself, the Lord, will set my face against him and his family. I'll cut them off from Israel. All you got to do is close your eyes while they kill the kid and you're guilty. Acts 22, the Apostle Paul's talking to the Lord. And when the blood of that martyr Stephen was shed, I stood there silent, consenting to his death. Paul didn't throw a stone or say a word, but he knew he was guilty. Proverbs 24, rescue those who are unjustly sentenced to death. Don't stand back and let them die. Don't try to disclaim responsibility by saying you didn't know about it. Esther 4, Mordecai tells Esther, there's a mandate from the government to kill the Jews. If you're silent, you and your father's family will be killed, and God will raise up somebody else to deliver Israel. Numbers 20, Moses and Aaron are at the door of the tabernacle, and the Lord says, take the rod, gather the assembly, bow, and Aaron, speak to the rock, water will come forth. While they gather the assembly, Moses hits the rock once, hits the rock twice, water comes out. End of the chapter, the Lord spake to Moses, Aaron will not enter the land. because both of you rebelled. And he's like, both? We just read the chapter. Aaron didn't do anything. He didn't say anything. Yeah, that's just it. He was at the door of the tabernacle. He heard God say, speak to the rock. When Moses lifted up the rod the first time and hit the rock, it probably took Aaron by surprise. When Moses lifted up the rod the second time, Aaron knew what was coming and he did not protest. He was silent. So Moses' was a sin of commission. Aaron's was a sin of omission. Leviticus 5, a person sins because he did not speak up, even though he was an eyewitness to a case or knew what happened. Even Martin Luther King Jr. said, he who accepts evil without protesting it is cooperating with it. We all know the verse Leviticus 19, 18, love your neighbor as yourself. The verse right before it says, confront your neighbor directly so you will not be ill guilty for their sins. Another translation says, rebuke your neighbor directly, and you'll not incur guilt because of them. So they're loving each other, and they're rebuking each other. Proverbs 9, rebuke a wise man, and he'll love you. Ecclesiastes 7, it's better to hear the rebuke of the wise than the song of pools. John 17, Luke 17, if your brother sinned, rebuke him. And so you can do it nicely. 1 Timothy 5, 1 says, What does entreat mean? It doesn't mean be silent. You're speaking up politely. And so they have a woke tactic, and it's to guilt trip Christians into being more Christian than Christ. You say, what? They say, yeah, if you're really Christian, you'll be silent and give your tacit approval to us teaching something that Jesus would never teach. I mean, would Jesus teach the trans agenda? We know what Jesus taught. Matthew 19, he who made them at the beginning made them male and female. I mean, think of it. Here are school counselors who cannot even define what a woman is. If they think they can tell that a little boy is supposed to be a little girl, it's like you can't even define girl. It's totally illogical. Jesus warns, if you allow one of these little ones who believes in me to sin better, that a millstone be put on your neck and be thrown in the depths of the sea. So all these people that think they're being spiritual by not being involved, we don't get involved in politics. It's going to be a rude awakening when they realize by their silence they are giving consent to all the evil that's going on out there. They're inviting the judgment of God on their heads. The answer is local. So there's more people that go to church in an area than vote in a school board race. And the answer is to say, look, we don't agree with every church on every doctrine, but none of us are happy with what's being taught. Let's just vote some mama bear in and then pack out the school board meeting early so they don't beat up on her. And if churches can just care about the children that live around their church, all the higher races will take care of themselves. And, you know, as more power concentrates into fewer hands globally, God's counterbalance is to get more people involved locally. Right. We all see the good Soros and Klaus Schwab powers concentrating. Yeah. God's counterbalances to get more. I'm convinced God wants to have an end time revival. And it's not going to be through one or two big name preachers. It's going to be through the body of Christ participating, everybody getting involved. You know, some people say, I'm not going to do anything. I'm just going to wait for Jesus to come back. So I have a question for you. Who do you think you're going to meet when you're raptured? Jesus. Does Jesus love the little children? Yeah. You think he might wonder why you didn't do anything to protect him? We're not in North Korea where you don't vote. We're in America where the citizen is the king. And then there's sex trafficking of children. Jim Caviezel's movie, Sound of Freedom. And just two months ago, Scott Bottoms introduced a bill in Colorado for minimum punishment for those caught buying one to five year old children for sex. And every Democrat voted against it. And the churches are silent. They're selling children. The churches are silent. It's like they're in Germany and they're carting the Jews off to be killed. Churches are silent. You know, the Salvation Army started because William and Catherine Booth wanted to stop child sex trafficking in London. They would go to a poor family and say, give us your daughter. We'll give her an education. As soon as they get her out of the door, they put her in a brothel. And Catherine Booth said, I felt as though I must go and walk the streets and beseech the dens where these hellish iniquities are going on to keep quiet. Seemed like being a traitor to humanity. That's how the Salvation Army got started. And so I think that it's a time that we, you know, we're the bride of Christ, and every romance novel builds up to a decision-making moment. And I think God is pushing the world to a decision-making moment. Some people are going to go with the all others. They're going to want to be liked and friended and followed. And there's others of us that says, you know what? I tolerated something I didn't feel good about, and then I stretched the rubber band some more. But I'm sorry, I can't be silent when they want to. Do a hysterectomy on a little eight-year-old girl because she went through a tomboy phase. Or they want to castrate a little boy because he played with his sister's dolls. And you cut the rubber band and it snaps back. And I think God is pushing the world to this decision-making moment where we show on the outside what we really, really believe on the inside.
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Wow, that is absolutely such great nuggets of wisdom during this interview. How can people find you, Bill Fetter?
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Well, thank you, Kim. My website's AmericanMinute.com.
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That is AmericanMinute.com. Bill Fetter, thank you so much. These are such special interviews, and Godspeed on all the great work that you're doing, and thank you.
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Thank you, Kim.
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And our quote for the end of the show, I went to James Madison, and this is one of the things that Bill was alluding to as our founders were putting together our Declaration and Constitution, that ambition must be made to counteract ambition. So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Let's have a conversation. Thank you so much for listening. Each of you are treasured and valued. You have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. And thank you to producer Steve, producer Luke, Zach, Patty, Keith, Charlie, Echo, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. We have prerecorded these shows for you for Independence Day week. And we have very special guests, and we'll be getting to our guests here in just a moment. But check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the line with me has become a fan favorite, and that is Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge. He is retired, United States Air Force. But you're a great... You're a great historian, but in this remarkable life of yours, you have this curiosity and this care about people. You've always been curious to hear people's stories. And so the stories that you have that you share are just remarkable. You've traveled the world. But today, Colonel Rutledge, I wanted to talk about journalism. George Washington. And you put together some notes on this, but wanted to talk about him. You're a military guy. So let's start with how he developed his military leadership.
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Okay. George, first of all, as a very young man, he wanted to be a part of the Royal Navy and so he actually took a cruise aboard ship down into the gulf and he got sick he had a very bad case of smallpox and then when he got back his mother also told him that you're not going to be in the navy i don't want you at sea so that ended his military career at that stage But he still was interested, and George learned to be a surveyor when he was a teenager. So he did a lot of surveying in the western part of Virginia, all the way out to the Appalachian area. So he was very knowledgeable going west from Williamsburg, which was, of course, the colonial capital. And he... He was approached, well, he became active in what was the militia in those days. And even at the age of 20, George was a captain. And by 21, he was a major in the Virginia colonial militia. So the governor of Virginia learned that the French... were moving forces down from Canada to gain control of the upper reaches of the Ohio River. And by doing that, they would control a huge amount of what now would be like Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and all those areas east of the Mississippi. And The British were not in favor of this at all. So George was picked by the governor to go and speak to the commander of the French forces, which had moved to the area which is now Pittsburgh, which was where the Ohio was formed when the Allegheny and the Monongahela River joined. So George made one of three trips to there. His first trip, George was 20, about almost 21, and he just took a few people with him for interpreters. So they went, and it took them many, many days. It was in the fall. It was snowing. It was cold. They had to ford rivers and streams together. But he was an outdoorsman, and he persevered. So they reached the French, and they took a written message over from the governor of Virginia to the commanding officer of the French military force, which had been established there at the start of the Ohio River, now Pittsburgh. And basically, the English were taking a position that this was English territory, whereas the French claimed, oh, no, LaSalle was down here 150 years ago, so we're claiming it on the basis of discovery from LaSalle. Well, that didn't work too well with the British. Nevertheless, he wrote out a reply, the commander did, which George took back to the governor of Virginia. When he got back and gave it to him, it made it clear that the French weren't going anywhere. They were staying right where they were. They had a very strategic position, and they were going to maintain control of the Ohio Territory. So the governor said, I want you to go back, and I want you to take a smaller force to show that we are serious about it. and that we are going to be moving west, and we would like for them to evacuate. So he did. He took a small group, and he had an interpreter with him, because there were several Indian tribes along the way, and they went back. Then, as they approached the French fortress... the French commander, the French officer in charge, was approaching them. And for some reason, and no one knows, shots were exchanged between the French and the British. So those were really the first shots that eventually became known as the French and Indian War in America. But it was also called the Seven Year War on the continent of Europe. Now, there are people who are not in support of Washington who claim, well, George Washington started the French and Indian War. No, that's not true. The French started it by bringing all those forces south and claiming it was their territory. And had they been willing to go back to Canada, there would have been a war in there. So George had a few casualties, and he did a retreat from the area and returned home. to the governor of Virginia. And he briefed him. So now that we've had two trips. So the British then decided we are going to have to assemble a force. So word went back to England what was happening. So a small group of, I shouldn't say a small group, actually it was between 2,000 and 3,000 British Redcoats came from England under the command of a general. And they came and assembled, but they needed somebody to guide them. So George was picked to be the aide to the general and lead him over back to the area. George did try to counsel them on the tactics that the French used with the Indians. And it was not like they fought wars in Europe where there were direct confrontations between lines of fire. And it was like we know where you shoot from the woods and you use all sorts of techniques. But the general didn't pay any attention. So George went with him. And the long and the short of it is the French and the Indians set up a situation where they surrounded the British forces. It was an ambush, and they decimated the British soldiers. They killed almost every one of the officers. They killed the general. This was the first situation in which George survived where he should have been killed, where he made a statement later in life that it was divine providence that had protected him. And he was to have several other instances like that that protected our country, and we actually had the July 4th to celebrate by his survival. So George took what British soldiers were left and made a retreat back to... Williamsburg, so he did brief. And he did not go back again. So this was three trips to that area. The war concentration moved north into Canada. So that although it lasted for many more years, it was not in the area where George Washington lived. Okay. So that's the early days of the French and Indian War and how George learned to be a commander in the field.
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Okay. I'm talking with Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge at retired United States Air Force about George Washington. And we have important conversations because of sponsors. Lauren Levy, you are a great sponsor of both the Kim Monson Show and America's Veterans Stories. And you can help people with everything mortgages, a first or second mortgage, a reverse mortgage. We're prerecording for this Independence Week, as I've renamed it. Independence Day is now a week. And what's your thoughts about our founding, our Declaration of Independence?
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You know, when you first told me about this, I was thinking about how I would handle this question with just independence in general. But then I was with some friends recently the other evening as the whole thing with Israel and Iran was going on. And then the U.S. had gotten involved. And he's an Iranian that moved here many, many years ago with his family and his children are Iranian-Americans. And I was really talking with him and his daughter. And he was talking to me about how he's hoping that Israel and the U.S. are successful in And he wishes that they would overthrow that government so that the country could go back to what he knew as a child, as a happy place where people could live like normal. But then I got to talking to his daughter, and she didn't understand because I just don't think they teach American government the way... We learned it as kids. And I tried to explain to her how we kind of have a policy in America that we don't take out foreign leaders. We try to get the population to rise up and do it themselves versus us just, I guess you'd call it assassinating a leader. And she didn't really know that. But she also, as an Iranian young woman here in America, I was like, you know, explaining to her how good she has it. You know, the fact that we can go on trips as families together and she can wear shorts and a tank top. And... get it suntan or go to the pool and drink alcohol as of age and sing and do all the things that she likes to do and be on TikTok and everything that the young people do today none of that would be allowable where she's from right now and you know girls that don't wear hijabs and things like that that are put on trial um was she aware of that she knew that they could be covered up there you know that they i'm like like you and your mom go to the mall right now right you when you want to go to a dance or you want to go to somewhere nice you go to the store you need a new outfit imagine if everything you wore was just a black garment with a headdress no more shopping and the men could do whatever they want though like how would that make you feel here would you say She hadn't given it much thought, right? Because it's not taught in schools and just hadn't given it a whole lot of thought. And she's like, you know what? I totally understand. Those are the freedoms we have here. And that our kids don't ever have to... When my daughter goes downstairs to get ready to go with her girlfriend, she's not thinking about... What can I get away with wearing? She's thinking, you know, before without getting put in jail, you know, she's just thinking what looks good on her. Right. And the freedoms that we have that other countries don't have is just amazing.
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Yeah, and it was different. I mean, I understand the Tea Party. I learned all that as a youth. I understand that that was more of us breaking away from taxation and what England was trying to do to the people. It wasn't so much racial, although there was the whole Protestant breakaway. But it was different. This is about oppression of a different type. And it's very interesting when you see... When other people of these other countries are given the ability, they will rise up and strike back and take out these leaders because they've been lied to for so long, and they do want what we have, even if they just don't know it yet because of what they're indoctrinated to in their country and what they're allowed to hear, what a great time life could be if they had the independence that we have been granted.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I did want to mention the Center for American Values. They're located right here in Pueblo, Colorado. And it is a really special place. And they have the Portraits of Valor, which are portraits of 160 or over 160 of our Medal of Honor recipients with a quote by each of them. They've also created a delightful book with all these quotes as well. You can buy that by going to the Center for American Values website, and that is AmericanValuesCenter.org. That's AmericanValuesCenter.org. And again, just it's an amazing place. And they focus on honor, integrity and patriotism. On the line with me is Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge, a retired United States Air Force, 94 years young. He will turn 95 in July of this year. We're talking about George Washington. And during the break, Colonel Rutledge, you said that you've got a copy of a document that George Washington had written. So tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, when George got back from his visit, the last visit, the governor or Lieutenant Governor Dinwiddie asked him to write from his journal a summary of what his experience had been, what he had told the French and the replies that the French had written and sent back. So he wrote it. Now, George wrote this as a letter, like an after-action report to give to the military commander, meaning the governor, about his experience in combat. And so he wrote all of this with the idea that it's one-to-one. It's George to the governor. However, it was so interesting and it had such political implications that it was printed by a printer in Williamsburg in 1774. So it was printed a few months after he had written the letter to the lieutenant governor. And they said that it was the most widely circulated and read publication within the 13 colonies up to that date. So it gave a great image to the readers in all the various colonies that George Washington was not only a man in the field, but he also was a good writer, and that he had the potential to become a good leader. They were not thinking of a revolution at the time. This was in the early 1750s. But nevertheless, it was his start to have public recognition. Then during the decades between the early 1750s and 20 years later, he took a more active role. He became the owner of Mount Vernon by inheritance. He married then a widow who had a lot of money and a lot of property. And he became very prosperous and also very much involved in the political activities of the state of Virginia. And he became the commander of the state. Militia for the State of Virginia. Okay. All of this was a follow-on from those three trips to Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And just a clarification, that was published in probably 1754, correct? Correct. Yes, in Williamsburg. In Williamsburg. Okay, great. I have a copy right here. That is remarkable. And it's remarkable that you can find all that stuff, too. I think you must be good at organizing things, Colonel Rutledge.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I hope so.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. He is now the commander of the Virginia Colonial Militia. He was in his late 20s. What happens after that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, he then became active even as a member of the House of Burgesses, which was like our state government. It was actually an advisory body to help advise the royal representative who was the acting governor there. So he met many, many people in that capacity. And then when he acquired Mount Vernon and then the estate, the Curtis estate, after he married Martha, he became one of the wealthiest men in the state of Virginia. And because of his prior experience in the military and the fact that he now was the commander of the state which had the largest population at that time, And also, that was one very political environment, and he was in contact with all of these people. He became very famous, very well known. So it gave him a reputation that prepared him for leadership in what was to become the revolution. But he did one other thing, too, that was really interesting. After, well, we had, first of all, we had Lexington and Concord. And this was in April of 1775. And there was a famous poem written about that and about Paul Revere's ride. So after this time, the Continental Congress decided that they would have to assemble a force because Boston was occupied by the British. And they wanted to counter that. So they were looking for leadership. And, of course, George was one of the principal candidates. He very wisely dressed in his best uniform when he went to Philadelphia. And he's about six foot two and a handsome man and a very good conversationalist. So he was very easily selected as the best qualified man to go to Boston to try to counter the siege of that was going on there. So, in July of 1775, he took command of the various colonial militias that had assembled around the perimeter of Boston. And he basically, with their support, laid siege to Boston.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I'm just thinking here he's a very wealthy man. And the journey that he is going on here to then be taking up arms against the crown, there was tremendous risk for him to do that, Colonel Rutledge.
SPEAKER 05 :
There was tremendous risk to him and to every person in the Continental Congress. It was going to be compounded. when they signed the Declaration of Independence, were in one of the signers, or perhaps it was Benjamin Franklin, as I recall, said, we gentlemen, we shall all hang together or we will hang separately for treason is what it came down to.
SPEAKER 13 :
So this narrative out there that we've heard over the last few years is that the founders were just these old rich guys that were just trying to protect their Their money. That's really not the case, is it, Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 05 :
No. No, it isn't. Now, there were a few that were very wealthy, but most were not. They came from all 13 colonies. They were very versatile. Most of them were landowners. They had to be well enough off that they could afford to be away from their properties for many months sometime at a time in Philadelphia. But they were what we would consider like middle Americans today. They had good values. They were well-read. And they wanted independence.
SPEAKER 13 :
But when they first started this journey, I think they still thought they were going to be part of Britain. But when would you say that it became apparent that they were going to become independent?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think it started a lot, of course, from the battles around the Boston area. And then when Washington took command, he decided that he must organize his militia into a fighting force. And when he did this, he basically then was encircling Boston and And General Howe, who was the commander of the Redcoats there, decided just to move back into Boston because he could quarter his troops better there. Actually, what they used to do, they'd take over people's homes. And that's one of the reasons we have something in our Constitution against that. But they would be quartered in there, and they'd be in good shape for this winter weather season. And they'd also have access, of course, to the port for resupply. So it was a good location for them. But Washington decided that he would continue to keep a force around there and do a siege, but he needed more power, and he needed cannons. And one of the really great stories was the first week that George was in command. And this is the first week in July 1775. A young man came to him, and his name was Henry Knox. He was 25 years old. And Henry loved reading about the military. And he was not a soldier, but he had ideas. And he talked to... General Washington said, I know where there are cannon that you could use. And he found out that what had happened is Ethan Allen from Vermont and the Green Mountain Boys had captured Fort Ticonderoga in northern New York. And they had a lot of cannon. So he approached the... the commander, George Washington, about it. Washington rather cavalierly said, well, Mr. Knox, why don't you just take charge of this and use your initiative? Well, we're talking about hundreds of miles away and thousands of pounds of weight. But Knox did. He took charge. And he left Boston in November of 1775. He got to upper New York and December 1775. And they built sledges by cutting down trees all around Ticonderoga. And they also built boats that they could work. And they moved down to Albany. And then they were waiting for the lakes to be frozen over so these sledges could carry these massive weights. And when I talk about massive weights, I'm talking about their estimate was 120,000 pounds, collective weight of these cannon, and I presume with cannonballs and whatever else they had, that had to be moved from... The area on the Hudson River, diagonally across to Boston, 300 miles in the wintertime, moving all this mess. What happened was, he did it. He got all of those guns back over to Georgia by the spring of 1776. And Washington decided... that it was very important that he have these to put up on the Dorchester Heights, which overlook Boston. Meanwhile, General Howe was getting sort of stir-crazy, and he was thinking about taking an offensive action against the colonials. If he had taken an offensive action and defeated Washington's forces, there would have been no July the 4th. But he didn't. He was just not quite ready to do that when one morning in March 1776, he looked up and he saw a cannon all across his height overlooking Boston. And he was shocked. And he actually made comments to the effect that the... that Washington must have access to thousands of men in order to do this. Well, it isn't true what he did. For several nights, he had his men go out and put down gun placements all across high territory when it was dark, so the British didn't know what was going on. But his theme was, we're going to get the psychological edge because we're going to move them all into place one night. And that's precisely what they did. The general came out and looked at it. He said, I couldn't get my whole army to do that in three months.
SPEAKER 13 :
And here Washington did it in one night. It is a remarkable story.
SPEAKER 05 :
One night he showed his force. And that was a determining factor in not having a British offensive and also in the withdrawal of the British from Boston to Halifax, Nova Scotia.
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It is a remarkable story and, again, remarkable man. I'm talking with Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. We get to have these great conversations because of sponsors.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is kimmonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. And we are pre-recording these shows for the week of July 4, but we do wish you a very happy Independence Day. I am talking with Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force, and we're talking about George Washington. And just to kind of button up the Battle of Boston is that George Washington was just 44 years old when this was all accomplished, and that is how he became the father of our country, correct? Correct. That's correct. Okay. What happens after that, Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, after the British left Boston, Washington recognized the strategic location of New York City and the port and felt that it was very important that he gain control there so that it was not dividing the colonies between So New England was not separated from the Middle Atlantic and the southern colonies. And if they kept control, it would be very difficult for any kind of military force to be united against the British. So Washington took the lead, and he decided to attack New York City. And at the time, he had assembled about 10,000 troops. It's hard to call them soldiers. They were just farmers and everything else, but they had their own guns. And they were from each of the various colonies in the Northeast. But as they were going down, they had such a short tenure, they would sign up for maybe a month or maybe six months, or somebody would have signed up for a year. Well, as they moved south towards Long Island, Many of them just took off and went home. Now, some of them did this not necessarily out of fear, because it was time to put in the crop. Most of them were farmers. They had things to do, or their family needed them. So many, many left. So by the time he gets to Long Island, he's lost a few thousand troops already. He still thinks he has an advantage with the initiative, but he was to have shocks for the next few months because he didn't win anything in New York. He just lost battle after battle. First of all, he lost in Long Island when he thought he wouldn't. Then he crossed over and went into Brooklyn. And when he got into Brooklyn, he found out he needed to get out of there, but he was going to have trouble getting out of Brooklyn. And this is where the divine providence factor came into effect. He had to evacuate where the British couldn't tell what was going on. So he assembled a lot of boats to get out of there and to get on to Manhattan. And... What happened was they had a Northeaster that came in, and with fog and rain, it was miserable. But the main thing, it took care of visibility. So he was able to evacuate out of Brooklyn when he was basically surrounded by the British. So he gets over to Manhattan, and his luck is not a heck of a lot better there. So he's gradually working north. And he gets all the way up the White Plains, and then he gets up even north of there, and then there's a fortress that they set up that they call Fort Washington, which was very small. But every time when it looked like he had no chance at all... Something would happen weather-wise or good luck-wise so that he was able to slip away. And so eventually, he was able to get out of the New York area, get across the Hudson River, and get into New Jersey. By now, he only has probably 3,000 to 4,000 soldiers total left in New York. So he's going through an area in New Jersey, south and west, yet New Jersey had more people who were in sympathy with the crown than who were in sympathy with any kind of a revolutionary movement. So he was not going through land where he was being treated well. He was like a hostile force coming through. So it was very difficult for him. But he continued on down all the way south. to Philadelphia, and the British didn't follow him very closely. They took sort of a leisurely route going down because they thought that Washington could be defeated easily once he was engaged. So he did get down and got to Philadelphia, and then the British were slowly, slowly coming down. And it was, again, a continuation from in 1776. Now, while he was in the New York area, and when things were very low, this is when the people in Philadelphia suddenly decided, well, we'll sign this thing and we'll call it the Declaration of Independence. Not a good deal for Washington, because it didn't make the British any happier towards Washington.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and just to address this, he was losing battle after battle. And when he's losing battle after battle, he's seeing farmers and merchants, his fellow countrymen, well, his fellow men die. And, I mean, he didn't lose heart. He didn't give up, which I think we really need to recognize that because that is so important, Colonel Rutledge.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, his leadership was essential. Washington was actually in the field for about six years, five or six years, and scattered all over from Boston all the way down to South Georgia. And they just weren't winning. He only won three battles. in the whole war trenton princeton and yorktown now actually you might kill boston because he got the british to evacuate but he didn't have any direct confrontation with him so but he had plans and he knew how to retreat he knew how to use his people And he had the dynamic leadership to keep them together. And he also had a few people who were extremely supportive and good writers and could encourage the people to stay with him. But he was running very hard against upstream people.
SPEAKER 13 :
But he didn't give up. And if he would have given up, we would have no declaration of independence that we are celebrating today. I think that's important that we recognize that. And I think we get a little spoiled here in 2023 America and just don't think about what Washington and Farmers and Merchants of the Continental Army just exactly – what they did for us all these years ago. Continuing on, what do you think is the next thing that we should really talk about?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we're all talking about 1776 now, which means we've already made the Declaration of Independence in July. The British know that we're seeking our independence, and they want to get rid of us. meanwhile the british have contracted with the germans the hessians and these are mercenary soldiers and they have sent thousands of them to america and they had one concentration at trenton new jersey and george was across the river in the Philadelphia area and decided he was going to attack the German concentration at Trenton. And the time to do it was going to be Christmas night. And he thought that they would be celebrating the event and would not be as attentive to their security. That didn't turn out to be true. A lot of people liked the story, but they didn't let it really happen. George went down across the river, and it was frozen. There were icebergs. It was terrible. And he divided these forces up into three forces. One was to come in to Trenton from the south. One was to come straight across the river. And the other was to go north and then come down, and they would all converge on the the German forces that were in Trenton. Well, what happened was the ones at the south couldn't get across. There was so much icebergs and everything else, they just couldn't get their boats across. So that was the largest force, but it never got into action. Then the ones in the middle, they were trying to get across, and they were having trouble also. So George got his forces across from the north, And again, now his whole force has been reduced by at least two-thirds. And right then, what happened was the Germans had actually posted guards way out around the perimeter to be able to alert the commander in the event there were any kind of incursions. Well, this is another one of those divine intervention situations because the weather turned terrible yesterday. They had a blizzard. They had not only snow, but hail and fog. And it covered their presence north of Trenton. So they continued moving forward. And when they got to the edge of Trenton, they had the advantage because they did have a few of their cannon, their field pieces with them. And they... The outpost people finally got to their commander and let him know that before he could get his forces together, Washington and his people were into Trenton and were coming right at them and were using their cannon. And the Germans did come out. They did resist. In fact, a German commander was hit and was killed in the battle. So it was a contested fight. It wasn't a give-up situation that people kept saying, well, the Germans all were drunk. They celebrated. That wasn't the case.
SPEAKER 13 :
I've heard that, and I've actually shared that. So that's what I've thought about that evening, but that was not the case, huh?
SPEAKER 05 :
No. The commander was very much in charge, and he came out and he led from the front and And he was leading. But the problem was he was outgunned and out-surprised at that time. And so the initiative is with the Americans and with Washington. And it took the day. And so they won there. They captured all these people that were surrendered. And then in addition, in the old days, what you'd do is, You'd sign a document indicating that you would not fight against the force anymore. And so consequently, although he had no way to put them in a contained area, they signed that they would agree not to fight against. The Continental Forces. So there was a target of opportunity nearby in Princeton.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, let's keep that as a cliffhanger, Colonel Rutledge. I'm talking with Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge. He is a great historian, just a great, has a great interest in people and a frequent guest on the show. And we're talking about George Washington on this Independence Day. And we get to do this because of great sponsors.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And this Independence Day week, I highly recommend that you honor our founding by going to the USMCMemorialFoundation.org and making a contribution as they are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial out at 6th and Colfax. And my friends, it is so important to honor, remember those that have been willing to give their lives or given their lives today. for our independence. And so, again, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org to make a contribution. Honored to have on the line with me Lieutenant Colonel Bill Rutledge, retired United States Air Force. We're talking about George Washington, and he's finally had a success at the Battle of Trenton. So he decides that he's going to augment that success, and he goes over to Princeton, correct, Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's correct. And what happened there was he actually was... He had a smaller force than the British, and they did not expect any attack because they had gotten a little bit of word by what had happened at Trenton. But the fact that he had had success motivated his men and his leadership, and he went on to Princeton, and they attacked head-on to the British there and were successful. But this is another case where, again, divine providence played. In this case, it wasn't the weather. This case was him as a target on a big horse, and the biggest man out there, 6'2", big, on top of him, and leading the horses in front. He had to have been the target for so many of the guns. His cape, his hat, so much part of his overall attire was pierced with shots. But he wouldn't hit. He never was shot off of his horse in the whole war. And this is so unusual. And later on, as they were looking over his uniform, as he was, and as he was writing notes and memoirs and things, Everyone was astounded that he had survived this situation. And again, when they asked him, how could he explain that? He couldn't. And he fell back on this comment so often. It was divine providence. And he didn't say this was God, this was Jesus, this was some saint. But that was his collective term. And it seemed to fit pretty well to summon the things which were so unpredictable and uncontrollable, like the weather. And how can people in Pennsylvania and New Jersey shoot at a guy on a horse who's in front of everybody and not hit him? These are just unheard of. Wow. These are things that happened. And now we're talking about our early 1777. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
So what happens then?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, then he's faced with a situation of having to get back to Philadelphia, having to go back across the Delaware River. And that's when he went out to Valley Forge. And when he went out to Valley Forge, He was only a few miles west of Philadelphia. And so the British, General Howe and his brother, Admiral Howe, who collectively brought the British forces in and decided they'd just stay in Philadelphia for the winter. So they occupied people's houses and things all around. And they knew that Washington and his forces were at Valley Forge. But that's not how you fought wars in those days. In those days, you went into a winter area where you camped, and people didn't make war very much in the winter. So that's when we had all the trials and tribulations of terrible, terrible survival conditions for those in Valley Forge that winter time. And the fact that it got down to sometimes slightly less than 3,000 people still out there with George Washington. Fortunately, he had his key lieutenants, who later became very great leaders in the new republic. But it was hard, and it was very difficult. And it was the era when... Payne wrote These Are the Times that Try My Souls. And that publication was written about what was happening in Valley Forge in Washington's survival. And Payne actually went out there. He was in the Army. And Washington got to know him. And he wrote this document. That was read all over America, and it was designed to encourage the people who were in support of the new republic. And we've talked about this one on other occasions. But that one quote describes so much the time that tribe men sold.
SPEAKER 13 :
Isn't it amazing, Colonel Rutledge, how words are so powerful? Those words from Thomas Paine so long ago. As I look at 2023 America, I've got it on my outline that I look at on a daily basis. because we're in a time now that tries men's souls. But we can listen to the stories of George Washington and the Continental Army and take great heart from what happened then, and I think apply that to 2023 America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I think there are certain parallels. One of the other parallels, which was even more frightening to me, is George Orwell's
SPEAKER 13 :
1984. Yes. And so ideas are powerful. We are in quite a time, but we've been in difficult times before. I think prayer is very important, again, throughout our history, whether or not it was George Washington kneeling by his horse and saying a prayer to Patton, saying a prayer in World War II, having the troops say that. I think prayer is very important. I think it's important, again, for 2023 America. We've got just about a minute or so left. How would you like to summarize all this for our listeners, Colonel Rutledge?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think the key thing people need to appreciate is that America was blessed with a unique leader. And if it had not been for George Washington, we would not have had independence for decades. and the fact that Washington led, and although he'd lost far more battles than he ever won, he finally prevailed at Yorktown in 1781 by his own strategy and his tactics. The British thought that his forces were in New Jersey right across the Hudson because he set up camp and left the fires there and left the tents and did a forced march all the way down to Virginia, where he joined his other army that was coming up from the south that was in pursuit. of the British, so that the British had gone to Yorktown because it was a close place to get reinforcement, to get new forces, get new supplies. But when they got down there, the good luck was that the French Navy, for once in the whole war, actually blocked the British Navy so that they could not get in and relieve the British forces of Yorktown. And that's why they surrendered there. And although the war was not formally ended for well over a year by the negotiators, that was the last major battle of the war at Yorktown.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Colonel Bill Rutledge, thank you so much for being our featured guest on this 4th of July broadcast. I so greatly appreciate it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you. It's a pleasure.
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And our quote for the end of the show is George Washington. He said this. He said, It is impossible to govern the world without God. It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Well, welcome to an Independence Day week edition of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. Just a couple of days away from celebrating the 249th version of the 4th of July, the celebration where we remember the signing of the Declaration of Independence, or at least the initial signers inking their names to the Declaration of Independence, 249 years ago. That's kind of hard to believe. And since next year will be number 250, I want everyone to know in advance that Bob Duco out of Detroit, Michigan, is inviting everybody to his house for a barbecue. So we've got a whole year to plan for that.
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Plan, there we go.
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Yeah, man, let's go.
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Giddy up.
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Exactly. So anyway, my name is Neil Boron, and I work for WDCX Radio in Buffalo, New York, on a program called Neil Boron Live. Bob Duco is the host of The Bob Duco Show in Detroit, Michigan, and John Rush, host of Rush to Reason on KLZ in Denver. We make up the guys who do the National Crawford Roundtable podcast every week, and this one, obviously, leading into the 249th celebration. And it's a meaningful day. I wonder how meaningful. I want to talk about that in just a little bit, like how much younger people really get the importance of freedom, et cetera. But I wanted to start out, guys, by kind of asking this question. I've seen actually even a couple articles in the newspaper about it, but it was already in my mind. you know with with the events of the last even 20 years let's say and and really honestly probably 50 years but you know the us involved in the bombing in iran you know knocking out the nuclear sites um are unwavering support for israel or at least basically unwavering we've cracked down recently on anti-semitic student uprisings on college campuses There's been a ramp up in the deportation of illegals, as President Trump promised when he came into office. People argue one way or the other about our foreign policy in Gaza and Ukraine, etc. I think of the killing of Qasem Soleimani. Our time spent in Afghanistan, people don't necessarily like these things and they don't always want the U.S. around it. And with a major date like this coming up, the 4th of July, you start to see articles about, you know, that people are warning, be wary of where you are in public. Know your surroundings because, you know, soft targets are. end up being targets for terror attacks, etc. And I'm just curious what you guys think. With all that's gone on, and especially in the last six months, is it important that people be worried about 4th of July? And do you think terrorists would be actually planning something for the 4th of July when they could perhaps... be more stealthy about it by choosing a different date, one that is unexpected. But let me start with John real quick, if you don't mind. Any thoughts about that? Has it crossed your mind? The state is coming. There's a lot going on in the world. Should we be concerned here in the U.S., John?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think we should always be concerned, Neil, and it's something that I cover on my program on a pretty routine basis. That's situational awareness, be paying attention to everything going on around you, whether you're just out to dinner, whether you're going to a ball game, whether you're at a concert, anything along those lines, any type of big gatherings especially. I think you need to be very diligent in just paying attention. Do things look normal? Is there something that looks abnormal? I think we live in a day and age now where it's something we need to be vigilant on at all times i had several listeners yesterday you know ask am i changing you know my quote unquote safety protocol you know going to and from the station and so on and my answer was absolutely not i do the same thing every day i'll continue to do the same thing every day am i worried about you know any kind of iranian You know, backlash no more today than I would have, you know, two months ago, three months ago, to be honest with you, Neil. So, you know, do I think anything major is going to come from Iran along these lines? And, you know, all of this talk of the sleeper cells awakening and this, that and the other. It's ironic that the Democrats, of course, are the ones talking about that and they let them all in. But that's probably another topic for another day.
SPEAKER 06 :
uh reality is no i'm not changing anything that i'm doing do people need to be vigilant absolutely but would i change my lifestyle around and do anything different today because of what's going on over in the middle east i would not yeah you know interesting i want to zero in for one second real quick on when you said if you see something say something i think we all get that at the airport like if we see a bag sitting by itself we should probably alert security officer that bag you know is left unattended i'm not sure why that's sitting there but i I think people are a little more nervous about it like in real life, in our own neighborhoods and stuff. A guy told me a story about a neighbor of his who had moved from a different state. He was from a different country. And at some point told this guy, hey, when I moved from the other state, I had a permit for all the guns I own in that state. But now that I live in New York state, I don't have a permit for my guns. Do you think I should say anything to any about it? He was asking anyone about it. I'm not sure how the individual answered the question, but my point is that's a see something, say something moment as far as I'm concerned, because when somebody is telling you that they have a bunch of guns in their home, um, And they're probably not going to tell the authorities about it. I would feel compelled to say something. But I think that I wouldn't.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'm the opposite of you because I'm that guy. You're the guy that wouldn't tell anybody that I've got what I have because it's nobody's business. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
but what i'm saying is if there's somebody that seems to be acting suspiciously or suspiciously towards law enforcement or the government well that was the issue i mean there was some suspicious behavior with cars coming and going at two o'clock in the morning yeah that's a little weird situations yeah that's different and it was like should we say anything um Bob, I don't know, just your thoughts.
SPEAKER 02 :
I want to just follow up really quick, too, Neil, because, you know, this is something that, you know, our family has encountered. And you guys didn't we didn't talk about this a lot on the podcast. But I had, you know, two cousins that were murdered in their own home, shot to death. And then the house was burned to the ground. That was that happened back in 2009. February, they still don't know who did it. They're still looking for suspects and so on. So my point is, is Neil, you know, is it the Iranians or is it just everyday America that we have to be concerned about? Because the reality is, in my opinion, nothing has really changed. We've got to be vigilant at all times, regardless.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and you're right, and you're raising a good nuance to the question, the overriding question. Because the articles we're seeing right now are in the wake of what's going on or has gone on with Iran recently, they're saying we need to be vigilant, we need to be concerned. But across the board, if somebody means harm to the United States of America, is it reasonable to think that the 4th of July would be a date? Everyone would go in my mind. Yeah, sure. That would be a target date, but it'd be nice if they could pull it off. But I think it's easier to pull it off if it's not the 4th of July, because then nobody's really paying attention. I agree. I don't know, Bob, your thoughts.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I'm probably more along John with this in that I don't think that much about it. I really don't. I mean, be vigilant and pay attention. Yeah, I think we need to be aware all the time. Keep in mind, I live in Detroit, Michigan, where I'm broadcasting from right now, the studios of WMUZ in Detroit. We are literally on the border of Dearborn, Michigan. Three miles down the road from me is the largest mosque in in the country. And we have the largest population of Muslims in the United States here in, you know, three miles down the road from me. So there's always that certain sense of, okay, is Islamic jihadism going to come to my backyard here? And so I tend to not live with it every day. It's just like, okay, we'll just do my day like normal. I don't think July 4th is necessarily going to present anything different. I suppose it's possible that some jihadists could be thinking, let's target specifically July 4th. That is possible, although if they do something like this, usually it's several years in the planning. 9-11 took six years. To plan and coordinate. So I think if there was something big and coordinated, they would have been working on it for several years at this point. And if they're going to go several years into it, if anything else, I would tend to think next year on the 250th anniversary when the whole country is going to be making a much bigger July 4th deal than they would even this year.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I think it's important to be vigilant, but I don't worry as much about the 4th of July as the potential for some kind of operation coming to fruition on any other day. And I don't know what else to do except be vigilant like other people, but I don't want to live in fear. Bob, I'm with you on that. I don't want to be the kind of person who's looking around every corner expecting that there's a problem going on. We are able to have these kind of conversations on the National Crawford Roundtable because of the support of our faithful partners, including our good friends at Preborn. Bob, what an incredible job they're doing.
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SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
Some of us do. Most of us don't, I would say. Unfortunately, kids growing up today, they don't really... they're not really being taught the true history of America. When you look at the things like critical race theory and the anti-Americanism that is so much a part of the liberal left today, our kids in school are basically being taught to look at America through a negative lens. And so I think they see the worst in America instead of the best in America. Same thing with law enforcement, the worst in law enforcement, not the best in law enforcement. So We have ugly parts of our history, of course. Every country does. But by and large, I do believe America is the greatest nation on earth. We contribute more good to the earth, I think, than any other country in the world does. But there's just a wave of anti-Americanism that's on the left. And so, unfortunately, that's influencing our kids. Not to mention the fact the Christian heritage of America... has been swept under the rug. There is so much information that's censored from American history books that our kids aren't learning. Most people don't even know that when this country was founded and the Constitution was ratified, the largest church, not just in Washington, D.C., The largest church in the entire United States was the United States Capitol building converted to a church every Sunday morning. And the overflow churches were the War Department building, the Treasury Department building, and the Supreme Court chambers. And the United States Marine Corps band served as the worship team. I mean, this is woven into the history of our country. Thomas Jefferson, when he was president, ordered that the Bible is to be a required reading textbook in the public schools. And as a matter of fact, before there was ever a Zondervan or InterVarsity Press, the United States government was the printer of the Bibles and distributed them to the schools. That's actually part of our history. After the Constitution was ratified, this is all the kind of stuff that's censored from our American history books. So yeah, I think... I think our kids are not being taught the true history of America, number one, that it's a Christian heritage, and number two, that we have been, by and large, when you weigh everything out, a force for good and not a force for evil for humanity.
SPEAKER 06 :
Real quick before I go to John, do you think it's possible that we would ever return to a time where that was required to be taught in the schools? Because what you're talking about is not... It's not coming from a place of desiring theocracy in our country. It's fact. This is how we were founded. And what if people understood that? I think if you stopped 100 kids right now on the street and asked them, maybe one would know because their dad is a big history buff or because they were homeschooled for a period of time or something like that. But is it possible to turn that ship around in any way?
SPEAKER 05 :
It's possible in the same way that it's possible that a meteor could land in my backyard today. But I don't think it's probable because, frankly, I don't see getting this toothpaste back in the tube. I really don't. And not to mention the fact that as we get closer to Jesus' return, things are supposed to be actually getting worse and more ungodly. Jesus said, when the Son of Man returns, will he even find faith? And he said, it'll be as it was in the days of Lot, as it was in the days of Noah. And so it does seem like things are supposed to get worse. We may have waves of revivals, temporary setbacks, but ultimately, I think the wavy chart line runs in an overall downward trend. I'm not trying to be a pessimist. I'm just thinking realistically, plus scripturally, I would argue.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. John, I know you're a fan of teaching civics in the public schools, or you say we should return to that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, yeah, we should, although... Can we add this to it, is my point. Well, and I agree with Bob. You know, good luck. I think that's why so many folks, since even COVID, and COVID pushed a lot of this, have turned to either homeschooling or private schooling or things along those lines, because they realized what their kids were actually... being taught in the public school system is really struggling right now to keep attendance. I don't know what it's like where you guys are at, but here in Denver, we have schools that they're literally closing. There's just not enough attendance at that particular school. It's funny. There's not as many kids attending, but they always want more money out of your property taxes. That's a podcast in and of itself. But anyways... Um, I'm with Bob, the chance of a meteor, you know, dropping in my backyard versus what we're talking about happening inside the public school. I think the meteors might be a higher chance. And it's interesting too, because guys, I read some, some things yesterday. I didn't get a chance to talk about it. I made today on my program, but talking about how, how Gen Z right now is so scared and nervous and, you know, they, they don't know what to do. They don't know what, you know, they don't think they should leave their house. I mean, all these different fears that they have over what's going on.
SPEAKER 06 :
in the world and i just think to myself holy cow who's led these people you know these kids especially you know down the wrong path to where they're now afraid to leave their home i mean what have we entered into here guys yeah it's disconcerting it's disturbing i think one thing you're probably right you know i would i would tend to agree that i think it's impossible to put the toothpaste back in the tube but there are whole organizations out there that fight for things like religious freedom etc and i I would love to see the day when somebody turns their attention to trying to eliminate DEI, eliminate revisionist history. Let's teach the actual history. I'm sure that there are congressional Bibles printed by the U.S. government somewhere in the Smithsonian or somewhere else. You can pull those out and say, look, this is the U.S. government printing the Bible. This is part of our history, and we're going to tell people this. But, again, if it doesn't happen – Neil, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let me just jump in real quick. This is – the frustrating thing here is the act of censorship that takes place. For example, when you go to Washington, D.C. in the Visitor Center – now, I don't know if it's still this way, but I know it was a few years ago. They have in the Visitor Center a replica of the capstone of the Washington Monument, okay, a little pyramid capstone there, okay? Well, the actual Washington Monument, at the top of it, on one of the four sides, it has etched into it, Laus Deo, praise be to God. But in the visitor's center, the actual exact replica of the capstone is under glass against the wall. Three sides are visible. One side's against the wall that can't be seen. Guess which side is against the wall? So it's just stupid little stuff like that that just makes my eye twitch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And I don't even know how to say what I'm trying to say here. But one of the things that I think is a reality, let me give you, for instance, in New York State, you know, we've had abortion since 1970. Then by 1973, Roe happened. And the feeling was abortion is legal everywhere, etc. But that never prevented any believer who loves life and knows that God created human beings in his image, never prevented any of them from having a conversation over coffee or at lunch or in a homeschool setting or in a church venue or somewhere else to take the opportunity to talk about the value of life and the tragedy of abortion and to be able to address those things. People have tried to make it illegal or hoped in the future somehow they'd pass laws trying to shut down that kind of speech, but the point is nothing could stop pro-lifers from being pro-life, or at least nothing was preventing pro-lifers from continuing to be pro-life even though abortion was illegal everywhere. in that particular in the same way i just kind of think that even though the country might be somewhat hostile to the idea of teaching actual history and is much more in favor of some revisionist version of history that it doesn't prevent us from talking to our own kids about it creating documentaries talking about it on the radio you know doing whatever we can to bring the issue out without fear of reprisal right now but who knows what the future holds depending on you know what administration is running our country i'm just saying i don't think we need to be defeatist about it either maybe we can't get the toothpaste back in the tube but it doesn't mean we can't teach what actually happened and i hope that we will you know with vigor that we won't shy away from those kind of things We've got a lot to talk about in the second half of the roundtable. We're actually going to spend some time touching on what one website referred to as 20 fun facts about the 4th of July. We'll touch on that a little bit. Also, just in a personal way, we'd love to talk about some 4th of July memories or, you know, fireworks kind of memories. I'm sure that we have some stories to tell about that. So we're going to kind of go... to the homespun kind of feel on the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. But the ability we have to talk about biblical truth, and I thank God for it, is not only provided in our Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, ultimately, and the opportunity we have for freedom of speech and freedom of peaceful assembly, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, we have some tremendous freedom in this country And one of the things that we can do right now is use our money to support organizations like Preborn that no matter what the law might be in any given state. I mean, New York is a very liberal state, probably the most liberal abortion laws on the planet. But here we still have the opportunity to support an organization like Preborn that's using ultrasound technology to tell the truth about what's happening inside a woman's body, how that baby is developing and shows full well that it's a human being we're talking about. Bob, I thank God for Preborn.
SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
He's safer than the Fordow people. I'm just letting you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
No bunker busters in John's bunker. No way. It's not going to happen. Anyway, yeah, so we've got some fun things to talk about in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. But this is the week of the 4th of July Independence Day. We certainly hope you'll join us in giving thanks to God for the freedom that we enjoy here in the United States of America. All right, we're going to wrap it up here. We'll be back with more in just a moment. Second half of the National Roundtable podcast coming up.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is a Crawford Media Group production.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. is what you're listening to right here. My name is Neil Boron of Neil Boron Live on WDCX Radio in Buffalo, New York. Bob Duco of the Bob Duco Show on WMUZ in Denver is also with us. And John Rush, host of Rush to Reason, KLZ in Denver, colleagues that I join together with each week here on the National Crawford Roundtable podcast. we're talking about the 4th of July independence day. And in some ways I'm looking forward to talking about some personal memories we may have of this day. Um, you know, they might just be lighthearted and fun, or they may be something that were life changing, but either way, I hope we get a chance to touch on some of that in just a little bit. But first I want to touch on a couple of things related to the actual holiday itself. Um, Declaration of Independence was actually approved on July 2nd, 1776. And if you guys were aware of that, I was not. But the reason the fourth is credited is because there were two individuals who signed the declaration on that day and a number of others signed it in August at some point. So, you know, we know for sure that John Hancock was one who signed the Declaration of Independence. Does anybody know the name of the other? I'm just curious. Anybody know that name?
SPEAKER 02 :
I can't remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
We got some crickets. All right, well, I'm just going to leave it hanging out there right now. Maybe, John, you can Google it in a minute. I'm going to leave it out there. Maybe we'll come back to that in a minute because that's kind of an interesting tidbit. Benjamin Franklin wanted the turkey. Apparently he wanted the turkey as America's national bird. I have to say, I'm glad he didn't win that vote. He called it. He said the bald eagle was a bird of bad moral character. How does anybody have a clue? How do you arrive at that? John, if you live out there in Colorado, you got bald eagles.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, they're pretty I mean, they're they're they're vicious. I'll give them that. I mean, the bald eagle doesn't. How should I say this? It holds no, you know, prisoners, I guess you could say. In other words, it is out for death only. And it is, you know, survival and it does whatever it takes to make all of that happen. And yeah, the turkey is not very vicious. I mean, they can be, I guess, wild turkeys can be a little bit mean per se, but not like what an eagle does and can do. So they're not even in comparison, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I'm trying to imagine what we would have done on Thanksgiving Day if you couldn't sit down and eat turkey and watch.
SPEAKER 05 :
We'd eat eagle. Yeah, exactly. And we'd say they taste like chicken. It does make you wonder, though. Let's pretend Ben Franklin had his way and it was a turkey this whole time. And the turkey had been woven into our brains as the symbol of America. uh would we would we suddenly be seeing every time we saw an image of a turkey we'd put out our chest because we would think majestic thoughts uh in some way or would we still see it as the goofy you know kind of thing i mean how would we so i do wonder about that would we look at an eagle and go oh look how ugly that thing is man i'm glad that didn't end up being the bird so who knows
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's interesting how these things come about, but in any case, there was at least a possibility that our national bird would not have been the eagle. It could have been the turkey, and I'm just grateful. We didn't move in that direction. But yeah, on Thanksgiving Day, my whole thing is I love turkey and I love watching the Detroit Lions play at noon. I don't know why. It's just a thing. I'm not a huge Lions fan, but they're on every day. So it would have been the Lions while we're eating Eagle. No, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
That seems so. By the way, can I say something, Neil, about July 2nd, as you mentioned it? Please. Here's something else that's. censored from the American history books uh July 2nd 1776 when the vote they were taking a vote to declare independence Samuel Adams is on record as stating quote we have this day restored the sovereign to whom alone men ought to be obedient he reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting of the sun may his kingdom come Uh, that's the stuff again, censored from American history books. It's such a shame, but every, every bit of this I share is public information and you can look it up yourself in the national archives and the library of Congress in Washington, DC, but you're never going to see it in American history books. It's really unfortunate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Um, That's why we're talking about this kind of thing. And grateful that we have an opportunity. I did not know that Calvin Coolidge, the 30th president of the United States, was born on the 4th of July. So his birthday, I believe, is the only president to ever have had a birthday on the 4th of July. But two different founding fathers died on the 4th of July, hours apart. Until I started looking into the history, never knew that. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams both died on the 4th of July, 1826, literally just hours apart. John, do I smell a conspiracy here? What happened? what was that about?
SPEAKER 02 :
Some probably would say so on our side, but yeah, no, things just sort of, you know, work out that way. And it's, you know, it's interesting. I'm, I'm one of those where I don't put a lot of stake in, you know, certain dates and meanings around them and so on. And, you know, maybe I should, but I've just never been one of those individuals that, that does. I don't read too much into anything, especially conspiratorial thinking. Now, is it, is it, you know, coincidence and things like this happen where you end up with, you know, two presidents dying on the same day and, Yeah. Yeah. It's coincidence. Is it, is it an impossible thing? The odds are pretty low that it would ever happen again. Uh, but yeah, yeah. I'm one of those guys, Neil, where I just, I, I don't know. I'm just not superstitious. I'm not a conspiracy kind of a guy. I do my best to really try to end those and try to even push those aside when I hear about them and try to figure out, okay, wait a minute. Yeah, no, the earth is round guys. It is in fact round.
SPEAKER 06 :
A couple more fun facts here. I don't know if they're fun, but I'll ask you guys a question. Did the Liberty Bell ring on the 4th of July, 1776? The Liberty Bell in Philadelphia, did it ring on the 4th of July?
SPEAKER 02 :
John, yes or no? Did the Liberty Bell ring on the 4th of July? I doubt it. Okay, Bob?
SPEAKER 05 :
I have no idea whatsoever. The only thing I do know about the Liberty Bell, because you know how I am about all of my little history stuff, I do know that the Liberty Bell has inscribed on it Leviticus 2510, but I do not know if it rang on the 4th of July.
SPEAKER 06 :
What I'm looking at says no, it did not, because it was already cracked at that time. And I was disappointed to see that, because if that's true... then when did that thing ever ring? I mean, the Liberty Bell was there.
SPEAKER 02 :
The day it cracked. There you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. I mentioned earlier that there were two individuals who signed the Declaration of Independence on July 4th. Some signers didn't actually sign until August of that same year. So we all know the name John Hancock, and I think it's pretty amazing how much attention he's gotten the other signer was charles thompson irish-born founding father secretary of the continental congress uh as secretary he prepared the journals of the continental congress and uh his and john hancock's names were the only two that appear on the first printing of the United States Declaration of Independence, which I think is kind of interesting because he was probably like, hey, what about me? Does anybody know me? Like the little kid sitting in the first row in the classroom holding their hand up, oop, oop.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, John Hancock took half the bottom of the page.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, he signed it so big. Big old signature.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's like in the office when it's like, hey, it's somebody's birthday. Everybody signed the card. And the first guy that signs it writes it right across the middle of the card. Really big.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Well, that's probably what happened. Poor Charles Thompson faded into oblivion in history. But anyway, yeah, it was Charles Thompson and John Hancock. One or two more real quick. Fun facts about... you know, the 4th of July. Americans purchase over 200 million pounds of fireworks annually for the 4th. That's a lot. The largest firework display happens in New York City. The Star-Spangled Banner was written during the War of 1812, not the Revolution. The Pledge of Allegiance wasn't written until 1892. Those are all some things that go along with it. And here it is. Americans consume 150 million hot dogs, not pounds of hot dogs, 150 million hot dogs on the 4th. I'm not a hot dog guy anymore. I'm kind of a burger guy now, or sausage, but I don't know. Are you guys going to have any hot dogs on the 4th? I love hot dogs.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I love them too.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. You're part of the 150 million hot dogs that we'll be eating. All right. Well, I wanted to ask you this since we're just having a casual conversation about Independence Day. We were talking about, you know, whether – especially young people really grasp the importance of it of all the freedoms that we enjoy. Cause you know, this was, this was the, the earliest Americans essentially, you know, from the colonies saying, look at, we want freedom. We don't want taxation without representation. Um, we want to be able to worship freely, um, We need freedom. We need independence. And they fought for it and they won it. And there's a lot of freedom that we enjoy. Freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom to peaceably assemble and redress grievances that we can actually criticize government if we don't like what it's doing, but we can do so in a peaceful way. The Second Amendment provides the freedom to keep and bear arms. Just a personal question, but... You know, Bob, maybe I'll start with you. Which freedom of all the freedoms we enjoy here in the United States do you most deeply appreciate?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I would say it's probably an equal tie for me within the First Amendment. The freedom to practice your religious belief where it says, you know, Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. So the freedom to not be prohibited from practicing our religious beliefs and certainly that as Christians. And I would put that right up there in a secular sense with freedom of speech. I think that those are critical, fundamental freedoms. I suppose in the 14th Amendment also, freedom where we have a freedom of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. Freedom of life is certainly a big one. We talk about that with pre-borns. These are freedoms that I believe are inalienable rights, as our founders believed. In other words, they come from God, not from man. The problem is that the liberal left in this country has redefined what these freedoms mean and are now claiming that they mean something entirely different, especially the freedom to practice our religious beliefs as we do. And so they've turned it into somehow a freedom from religion now. In America, it's not. So I think we need to correct the record as far as the twisted nature of what the Constitution actually really says.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, what about you?
SPEAKER 02 :
I know it's going to sound odd, but the second, because without it, none of the rest of them last. So mine is the second. I agree with Bob and everything that he said. There's a lot of amendments and rights that, you know, inalienable rights that really come from our creator, not from, you know, men. But honestly, guys, and I don't think I'm wrong in saying this. If we don't have the second, whether you're somebody that believes in guns or not, the reality is without that, we lose all the others.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm not going to disagree with you. I don't take a chance of getting shot. Say that again. I'm not going to disagree. I got it. I don't want to take the chance of getting shot. OK.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I was thinking about it while John was talking. I was thinking if he was around during the Battle of Bunker Hill that he probably would have been there. But more for the hill. I'm sorry. Not so much for the hill, but more for the bunker. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 02 :
Or for the bunker and the guns.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, I'll tell you what. John is the guy that I want with me if I'm on the battlefield.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, absolutely. It's why we have him on the podcast.
SPEAKER 05 :
And just so you know, John, if we ever go into battle together, I just want you to know I'll be right behind you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, that's fine. 100% of the way. I got enough scares. We'll gun up and be good.
SPEAKER 06 :
OK, that's fabulous. It's so good. I I'm going to say and I don't really know how to separate the value of each of these freedoms that we enjoy. Obviously, freedom of religion is an amazing thing. And I think it's entirely scriptural. God doesn't force himself on anybody. So I think probably realistically, that's the best one overall. But, you know, it's an arguable point. But personally, I really appreciate what I call the freedom of opportunity, which means that I can wake up in the to worship God or not. I can go to work or not. I can love my wife or not. I can speak what's on my mind or not. Just the idea that the United States has been a place historically, and we've seen, obviously, we've seen some rights taken away. We've seen a clampdown on certain freedoms, and we need to fight against that. But just the idea that it's a place of opportunity, which is why people still flock to this country. And yes, sometimes illegally, and we need to put a clamp on that. But the United States has been a place of opportunity. And as a result, it's been a shining light, a bastion of freedom in the world. And that's why people don't leave the United States on floating devices trying to get to other places. They come here because there's something really special here. And I think that that freedom of opportunity in some ways encompasses it all. I'm not trying to make the big umbrella statement here. I'm just saying it's a pretty special place because it includes so many of these freedoms. And Where else are you going to go to get that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Really quick, Neil, you said something I think was really important a moment ago where there's nobody on put-together rafts and things along those lines that are trying to leave our borders and go someplace else. It's the opposite that's happening. In fact, even people that whine and complain, oh, if this guy gets elected, if Trump gets elected, I'm leaving. Well, very few of them actually do, and even the ones that do are miserable once they do. So the reality is it is still the best place on earth.
SPEAKER 06 :
100% agree with you on that. And the idea that we even get to do our radio shows on a regular basis and hear competing points of view. And I and Bob both serve in a situation where we have callers from both sides of the border, maybe more to my program. Because it's a better shot. No, no. Because Toronto is sitting right across the border and it's basically New York City to the north. I think there's a smaller population base across from, you know, in Windsor, Ontario, across from Detroit. But either way, we not only talk about competing views in this country, but. from across the pond, so to speak. And I had plenty of calls recently on my program when talking about foreign policy right now and how things are playing out in the Middle East with competing viewpoints on both sides of the border. And I just think that makes us all better in the sense that iron sharpens iron. So we sharpen one another. Nowhere, including the body of Christ, will everyone always agree on everything. But the idea that you can talk it out and sometimes even fight it out, I mean verbally, not physically. We don't want to condone violence, but I'm just saying the idea that we can wrestle with one another, so to speak. and be better for it is just a wonderful thing so i'm very grateful for the united states and we get to celebrate the 249th birthday of the united states just like pentecost was the birth of the church july 4th 1776 was officially the birth of the united states of america um i didn't really necessarily plan to ask this question but i'm going to throw it out since since we're a year away from the celebration of the 250th, I'm wondering if we need to do something to commemorate that. And I don't necessarily mean here on the podcast. I'm just saying, what would be the proper way? Because I'm sure there's going to be parades and all kinds of other things. But given the rich history of our country and the opportunity that exists here, the freedoms we enjoy, does anything come to mind? Is there some way that you think we could properly celebrate the 250th anniversary. Anything? Anybody?
SPEAKER 02 :
I thought, and Bob, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought there's already some plans and I think Trump is really behind. Isn't there going to be some big deal in Iowa, like a world's type fair to celebrate the 250th birthday? Did I miss that or am I thinking, did I dream that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I really don't know. I've got to imagine that long before now, especially with Trump, That they're probably working out and planning at least the vision of what they're going to do. You know, they'll do something, I think, super big. And I mean, let's face it, Trump does everything really big. And so I think it's going to be something major. I think it's going to be it's probably going to be like a big Ronald Reagan moment when the bicentennial kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
uh which would be good and then actually i did just look it up i was correct so i will be will be participating in a nationwide celebration of america's 250th anniversary with a focus on the iowa state fair in other words i think everything i've read that's going to be like the big shebang if there's one you really want to go to and travel to i believe that's going to be the one to go to yeah but if trump does it it's only going to be to celebrate calvin coolidge's birthday Unbelievable. A little inside.
SPEAKER 05 :
Some of you know what that means.
SPEAKER 02 :
And actually, Trump will be, they're saying here that Trump will actually be at the Iowa State Fair to talk to the crowd. So if that's one of those events that people want to plan for now, probably ought to get going on that now. It's a year away. It seems like a long way off. It goes by really fast. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, last question here. Let me just kind of throw it out there. Do either of you have a favorite 4th of July memory of any kind and or a firework story of any kind? Good, bad, or otherwise?
SPEAKER 05 :
I do have a firework story. We were up north a few years ago and we bought a whole bunch of fireworks. You know, and you know, you buy the, here in Michigan, I don't know if you're allowed to buy these in New York or Colorado, but here you can buy pretty close to the municipal level mortars and fill up the whole sky and stuff. Okay. So I bought several of these and there were these, call them cakes. They're big rectangular boxes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they'll shoot off like 20 or 30 or 40 of them, you know, or whatever. Sometimes 100 of them. Well, anyway, as soon as we finished the whole fireworks thing, then I stupidly, I take some of the boxes that are empty now and I throw them into the big fire pit. Okay. Well, the problem is sometimes there's some that didn't fire. And sure enough, there was one big cake that had about 10 or 12 that did not fire. And I toss it into the bonfire and it's laying sideways. And boom! They just start firing out at all the neighbors and all the women are like running and screaming. People taking for cover, neighbors on both sides of us at the lake. And it was like an insane thing. And so the screaming of people hitting the ground and ducking. So once the screaming, I affected like two or three neighbors all surrounding us on the lake, right? And so once it finally settled down and people are done screaming or whatever, and they sit up, there's this moment of silence. And then my wife yells out, sorry, ladies, he's all mine.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it's like, okay, well, there we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's hilarious. I'll never think of you.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's hilarious. That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
We had the cops called on us many times as kids for having fireworks. They were illegal in New York state, but Pennsylvania, you could get them and definitely crossing the border. And it was like 20 minutes to get into Canada with no ID. So a lot of my friends, you know, would get their fireworks there. And I didn't have a car at the time, so I relied on them to get whatever we were using. But we would start setting them off and eventually the town of Tonawanda police would show up. Never got arrested, but got scolded a couple of times by cops. John, anything come to mind for you?
SPEAKER 02 :
One in particular, because of Colorado, we haven't had the type of fireworks you guys have had for a long time. But when I was a. young boy in eighties, which were, you know, people know what those are. I'm sure, you know, we were setting those off and, you know, it was my dad and my grandfather and, you know, family and everybody was around and we decided that we were going to put one on top of a fence post just to see, you know, what it would do and, you know, the loudness of it and so on. Well, it happened to split the entire, it was for one of the gates, by the way, split the entire fence post all the way down, ended up having to, you know, you'll participate in the repair of that afterwards. And, you know, it was one of those dumb moves like Bob was talking about earlier. It's like, who thought that was a great idea? But anyways, it was fun.
SPEAKER 06 :
Note to self, do not invite John or Bob to 4th of July. Hey, you know what?
SPEAKER 05 :
Real quick. My next-door neighbor, I kid you not, about five, six years ago, he was curious. He had an actual stick of dynamite. It's illegal. He shouldn't have done it. A stick of dynamite. So here's what he did. Out in the street, he takes his wheelbarrow, metal wheelbarrow, takes it out on the street, puts it upside down, and puts a stick of dynamite under the wheelbarrow, just kind of curious what would happen, okay? Okay. It was incredible. The wheelbarrow shot up at least 30 to 40 feet in the air from the explosion. To the moon, Alice. I know. And then it came down. We're all running for cover. And it almost landed on my car. I'm like, are you crazy?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's hilarious. Wheelbarrow shrapnel in your skin.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, man. The wheelbarrow stayed intact. That's what's incredible. It just shot straight up like a rocket.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, exactly. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. And wherever you get your podcasts, give us a five-star review. We'd love that. I just want to say thanks to John and Bob for all that you guys do to make this thing possible. I've learned so much from each of you. And thank you, our listeners. Thank you for listening and for supporting our sponsors in making all of this possible because of that support. That's going to do it for today. We certainly hope you have an incredible 4th of July celebration, that you embrace the freedom that we have here in the United States, and that God gave us because of Jesus, the freedom that can be found in him because of what he accomplished at Calvary. God bless all of you. Lord willing, we'll see you again next time here on the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast.
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