Join Rick Hughes as he guides listeners on a spiritual journey toward understanding biblical joy and happiness. Reflect upon the scriptural mandate to 'rejoice always' and discover how this transformative command transcends our fleeting emotions. As we navigate the universal yearning for joy and contentment, this episode offers profound insights into aligning one's mental and spiritual focus with divine purpose, creating a life characterized by unwavering joy regardless of life's challenges.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I am your host, Rick Hughes, and for the next few minutes, please stick around. It won't be long, just about 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education. And no manipulation, as we always say. We're not here to con you. We're not here to ask you for anything. Simply to give you information that will help you verify and identify God's plan for your life. If you're interested, then I hope you would orient and adjust to that plan. You know, it's a wonderful thing to be able to come into your home every Sunday morning at this time, or maybe into your automobile as you're driving to church. or maybe you're listening on some podcast like Spotify or Apple iPod. Wherever you may be listening, I want to thank you for the time you give me. I pray your time is not wasted, and I know it will not be wasted because I'm going to give you the accurate scriptures of the Word of God. God's plan for your life. It's always interesting. People want to be happy. People are looking for happiness today in all sorts of different ways. Hobbies, money, people. You know, someone said people and circumstances can make you happy and not really. People and circumstances are here today and gone tomorrow. But we want to talk about true happiness this morning. the pursuit of happiness in your life because God designed you to be happy. God does not want you to be miserable. God does not want you to be unhappy. He wants you to have a wonderful life. However, there are limits and expectations that you place upon him. And so let's talk about this. What is happiness? Happiness is pursued by most everybody in the entire human race. There's probably no one in the world anywhere that does not want to be happy But what it takes to make you happy may be different from what it takes to make your neighbor happy. Your neighbor may be a Democrat and you may be a Republican and so your neighbor may not be happy because his man or his woman didn't get elected and yours did. Do you remember what it took to make you happy when you were just a little kid? I mean, I do. When I grew up, one dollar could buy a lot of temporal happiness, that's for sure. Maybe a burger and a soda could be purchased for much less than even a dollar. I remember going to the Crystal Hamburger place, and you could buy a crystal for 10 cents, and we'd bet 10 crystals for a dollar. Some of my happy memories as a child were summer days at the local swimming pool where we went swimming. I'd stay there all day long, not too far from my grandmother's house. While my mother worked, I'd go stay with my grandmother and go to the local swimming pool and eventually wound up working as a lifeguard there when I got into high school. I used to love watching Saturday morning cartoons on television. Many children today are happiest when they have a cell phone, unfortunately, or playing some game or texting their friends because times have changed. So what it used to take to make you happy when you were young That would never make them happy today. I've tried showing some of my grandchildren some of the old cartoons that I used to watch, and they're not interested. But the Bible talks a lot about happiness, both for us being happy in time and as well as being happy in eternity. If you remember our 10 problem-solving devices on the flat line of your soul, that's what this show's made about. the forward line of troops, F-L-O-T, the main line of resistance in your soul, one of those problem-solving devices is called Plus H, which is sharing the happiness of the Lord. And so God wants you to be happy. If you're a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, happiness is one of the weapons you use to defeat the things that Satan would throw your way. So let's examine some verses together that detail the happiness God has available for all of us. In Psalm 118, verse 24, the Bible says, This is the day the Lord has made, and we will rejoice and be glad in it. This day is the day. This very verse should be the first thought you have when you wake up in the morning. And you open your eyes and roll out of bed, scramble out of bed, jump out of bed, however you get out of bed. This is the day the Lord has made. This verse should be the first thing you think about. and I will rejoice and be glad in it. The word rejoice is the Hebrew word shama, shama. And it means to have a feeling of joy or outward expression of such gladness by rejoicing. You know, the Old Testament was written in Hebrew, not Greek, not Aramaic, but Hebrew. So rejoice or sama means to feel great joy or have an outward expression of gladness. And so you wake up in the morning, you open your eyes, and you realize God gave you one more day to live on this planet, and you are to rejoice and be glad about it. Here's some principles I'd like for you to remember. every day god gives you is another opportunity to glorify him by lifting up your savior the lord jesus christ so that's something you can rejoice in god gives you the opportunity to lift up the lord jesus christ rejoice in that opportunity Here's another thought for you, point two. Rejoicing is a choice. You have volition. You can say positive volition, yes, negative volition, no. This verse says exercise your volition, positive volition, and do what God tells you to do. So rejoicing is a choice. You'll make that, even though your body might be aging and might not be rejoicing with you if you're an older person like I am, The bones creak and the knees hurt and the elbows hurt and joints hurt, but that's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about the physical part of your body because you're going to have some pain. You may have to get a couple of Advil today, but rejoicing is a mental attitude. Point three, rejoicing has nothing to do with how you feel. but rather about what you think. Rejoicing has nothing to do with how you feel, but rather it's about what you're thinking. And point four, rejoicing for the believer, such as you and I, is us having appreciation of God's faithfulness to us, not only now in time, but also what's going to come in eternity. So in Philippians 4.4, the Apostle Paul wrote, "'Rejoice in the Lord always,' Again, I say rejoice. In this particular verse, Paul uses the word kairo, C-H-A-I-R-O, the Greek word kairo, which is to be filled with joy. Just the opposite of mourning or feeling sorry for yourself. This Cairo we're talking about is a constant state of happiness due to our relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. The verb Cairo is a present active imperative verb in the morphology of the Greek New Testament. Why is that important? Because that means that this is a command. The present tense says there never is a time when you are not to be rejoicing. And the active voice says you produce the action of the verb with your positive volition. And the imperative mood in the Greek New Testament is a divine command given by God through the Apostle Paul. So buckle your seatbelt when I tell you this, but this is true. When you fail to rejoice, you are committing mental attitude sins. How is that? Because you're demonstrating lack of appreciation for what God has done for you and lack of trust for what God has committed to you. And so you cannot fail to rejoice. Always I say rejoice, Paul said. In Psalm 40 verse 16, the Bible goes on to say in the Old Testament, let all those that seek you rejoice and be glad or be happy in thee. let such as love thy salvation say continually the lord be magnified what a wonderful thing it is to know that we're saved and we have eternal life and we can continually say the lord be magnified for what he's done so point one thank god every day for your salvation you only rejoice You want to rejoice? This is the day the Lord has made and thank him for your salvation. Thank him that you're going to heaven. Thank him that you don't have to earn it or work for it because you couldn't do it if you had to do that. It's a free gift. It's a gift of God. For by grace are you saved through faith. It's a gift of God, not of works. Best anyone should brag about it. So remember that. Rejoice in that. And every day, never forget where we were headed. We were headed that way, someplace not heaven. We were headed to the lake of fire. And he revealed his grace to us in the person of his son, our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. Here's the words of Jesus talking to the disciples who were enamored with the power that he gave them to cast out demons. So he had to tell them these words in Luke 10, 20. Notwithstanding in this, rejoice not. In other words, they had a wrong priority. They were happy about the wrong thing. What were they rejoicing in? That the spirits were subject unto them. And the Lord said, this is not what you rejoice over, but rather this, he said, rejoice because your names are written in heaven. If you have believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, your name is in the last book of life. And that's a wonderful thing. When you die without Christ, your name is erased from the Lamb's Book of Life, and you have died the first death. And there are two deaths, physical death and spiritual death. Physical death, you die first of all physically, and then spiritual death is you being cast into the lake of fire. And as you've heard me say, there are either gonna be two deaths or two births, physical birth and a spiritual birth. So the Lord Jesus Christ had to remind the disciples, the important thing is not that you have the power over spirits, but rather that your name is written in heaven. So get over the wrong priorities. In the book that my staff and I wrote called These Things, and mostly my staff, my associates had helped me with that. These Things is the name of the book. If you don't have it, I wish you would order it and get it. It's free. In that book, I discussed what our Lord told the disciples about happiness during his final night with them. In John 15, 11, he told them, I've told you this. Told them what? Everything between John 13 and John 15, 11, all in those passages. I've told you this so that, or in order that, my joy may be in you and your joy may be complete that my joy what was the lord jesus christ joy well he had a relaxed mental attitude he trusted his father because he knew he was in god's plan i think we can say that the greatest happiness that you could ever experience is to know 100 absolutely that you're in the center of the will of God doing exactly what he asked you to do. And that's what the Lord Jesus Christ was experiencing. It wasn't the fact that he was looking forward to going to the cross. That wasn't what brought him joy. What brought him joy was that he was 100% sure that he was fulfilling the plan of God for his life. Our Lord used that word so that my joy, he used the word chara, C-H-A-R-A, chara. That's the word that he used, so that my joy may be in you and your chara may be complete. This word charah is the attitude of one who fulfills the will of God for their life. You know, this was the last night of freedom he had, and he maintained his joy. And you know, we can too, because he himself, the Lord Jesus Christ, is in fact our very own source of joy. In 1 Peter 1.8, Peter wrote, "'Though you have not seen him, you love him.'" And even though you don't see him now, you believe in him and listen to what's coming next. And you are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy. He is our joy. We haven't seen him. I don't think you've seen him. I haven't seen him yet. I've seen pictures of what people tell me the Lord Jesus Christ looked like, but I don't believe that. I haven't seen him, but I love him because he first loved me And I don't see him now, but I will see him. And I believe in him. I believe he died for me. I believe he took my place on the cross. I believe he walked out of that grave alive. And that's why I am full of inexpressible and glorious joy. He's my savior. He's my king. He's the one that sustains my life on a daily basis. And the same for you. You know, in the book of James, James wrote about hardships that we go through sometimes, and he made the statement that our hardships can be a source of joy. In James 1, verse 2, consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds. Consider it joy when you go through trials. What does that mean? Well, God trusts you. And when you go through these trials, these tests that you face, this is an opportunity for you to glorify God to the maximum. However, if you get full of self-pity, you get angry, you get disappointed in God because God let something happen that you didn't approve of, then you don't have any joy. So whenever you have a testing or a hardship in your life, count it joy. Consider it joy because the Lord trusts you to handle it and it's your opportunity to glorify him. People see you not frustrated. People see you not upset. People see the way you handle these things. they're encouraged and they question you. How could you be relaxed? You just had a big wreck. And you can say, well, you know, it's God's plan. It's God's plan. Hey, I'm thankful that I'm alive. With verses like these, we discover that happiness is constantly an attitude of thinking. That's what the Bible talks about happiness is. It's the constant attitude of happiness, joy. In the mature believer's life, hopefully you and me, in spite of earthly difficulties, we can maintain a relaxed mental attitude and through everything that we face, keep our focus on God's plan and on God's provisions. There's another word I want to talk about. It's an English word called joy, J-O-Y. Joy to the world, remember that song? It refers to a state of happiness or bliss or something that causes us to be happy. So we have joy, an English noun, and then we have the verb rejoice, and that's defined as an expression of a state of happiness. I'm showing you these different words for all of this happiness. Joy, rejoice, and the English noun happiness. That's in the Bible too, happiness. And that's defined as a state of well-being characterized by relatively contentment in your life, hopefully permanent contentment. So you can have this joy and rejoice and be happy. There are a lot of different Greek words used for happiness to describe it so we can understand it. The noun kadra, C-H-A-R-A, is translated joy sometimes. However, the Romans and the Greeks were very cynical about happiness, and they didn't seek the things that we do. They didn't seek it in everything. They weren't looking for it in people or circumstances. So these particular Koine Greek words I'm telling you, kadra, joy, you know, rejoice, the other different words that I've given you in this passage. This is different than what you and I are thinking about. There are different connotations from their English translations. There's another word called makarios, and we'll look at that in just a minute. And that's translated blessed or happiness. But again, the words used for the translation don't explain the biblical doctrine of true happiness that God wants you to have. The noun artarches, artarches. That's a noun, and it comes a little bit closer because it means to be content or to be self-sufficient. And it actually is describing the happiness you have when you're in spiritual autonomy, when you have the ability to stand alone, spiritually speaking. It's verb, archeo, coming from archarkes, and the active voice means to be sufficient or to be self-sufficient. And this comes closer to describing what real, true, biblical happiness is. And this is what happens to us when we execute the plan of God for the church age. We're self-sufficient. We're spiritually independent. We're spiritually autonomous. Some of us carry this entrenched notion that some set of circumstances or some particular thing or people can make us happy. But happiness is not something that's made or manufactured by us, we can't do it. That's the pseudo happiness that Satan attempts to counterfeit the happiness of God. He tries to counterfeit our contentment. You know, if I could just get that new car, if I could just get that new boat, if I could just get that new house, if I could just find my right man or my right woman, I'd be happy. Happiness is not in people. It's not in circumstances. It's not in winning the lottery and you saying, oh, Lord, if you let me win the lottery, I'll give you 10%. Oh, how kind of you. You keep 90% and you'll give him 10%. Yeah, right. The blessing which God provides for every church-age believer as a royal family of God is unbelievable. And Satan tries to counterfeit that. He does it by this myth of arrogance that both people and pleasant circumstances can make you happy. Satan's propaganda is that money, success, pleasure, social life, sexual life, public approbation, fame, material things, travel, health, all pleasant circumstances in life can make you happy. And that's not true. Because I want to tell you this, if you're dependent on any person, if you're dependent on any set of circumstances to make you happy, then you don't have the biblical happiness that I'm talking about. Because happiness is a state of your mentality of your soul. It is not something someone can do for you. It is something that you think. I told you that earlier. Because people with unhappy souls wait for other people to make them happy. That's actually the gimmick of the, quote, friendly church, friendly society. Come to my church and we'll make you happy. We'll sing some songs and clap and everybody will greet you and give you a cup of coffee and a donut. We're a real friendly church. The last thing you need is a friendly church. You need a church that will teach you God's word. You need a pastor teacher that will crank it out so you can study and learn and grow as a believer. Now, you can be happy when you're learning God's Word, and you can meet other individuals that are positive to the Word of God, and they can be friends with you. But just the gimmick of being a friendly church is not what it's about. Here's a principle that I want you to remember and never forget. I hope you'll keep this with you wherever you go. Unhappy people take their unhappiness with them wherever they go. Did you hear that? Unhappy people take their unhappiness with them wherever they go. So if you're unhappy in California, then you'll be unhappy in New York. If you're unhappy in a Ford, you'll be unhappy in a Chevrolet. I mean, it's not about what you have or where you are, it's what you think, as I've told you. It's not something someone can do for you. Here's an illustration, and this is found in the scriptures. This is the illustration that someone came up with an idea that motherhood can make you happy. Motherhood can make you happy. Do you think that's true? In Luke 11, 27 and 28, as Jesus was speaking, a woman interrupted him. Here's the Lord Jesus Christ. Let me set this stage for you. And he's got a crowd of people and he's talking to them. and they're all paying undivided attention to every word that he said, and a woman interrupted him. She called out to him, the Bible says. You can hear it, Jesus, Jesus. Look over here at me, probably like some kind of White House meeting and the news people trying to, call on me, call on me, let me ask you a question. And she just interrupted him, Jesus. And I'm sure the Lord looked at her and said, what? Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and who nursed you, she said. And she used the word blessed. It's our word for happiness, makarios. M-A-K-A-R-I-O-S, makarios. It's happiness belongs to the mother who gave you birth and on whose breast you nursed. And then the Lord Jesus Christ very calmly replied, I'm sure he did it calmly, blessed rather and i see he's saying no you're wrong you're absolutely wrong blessed rather happiness rather belongs to those who hear the word of god and who obey it the word who hear a co you a co Akoou, get that word in a minute, I can't get it out. A-K-O-U-O. Who here, that means to understand or to learn or just trust. Listen, listening to a sermon was not going to make you happy until you do what the Bible says. Blessed are those who hear the word of God and then obey it. The Greek word phulaso, phulaso, P-H-U-L-A-S-S-O, phulaso, obey. That means to guard it or keep it safe or to preserve it. So if you're looking for the kind of happiness you want, it's not in motherhood, it's in hearing, understanding the word of God and obeying it, guarding it, keeping it in your life. That's where the happiness comes from. That's the greatest happiness you'll ever have in your life is to learn the word of God and keep it in your soul. This particular woman was a rude person. She evidently had no manners because she demanded attention, stood up and said, Jesus, blessed be the womb that bore you and the breast that you nursed on. She interrupted her Lord. I don't know if she meant to draw attention to herself or what she meant, but she expressed a very false doctrine about motherhood. She implied that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was only happy because she carried a baby in her womb. And Jesus made it clear by stating that happiness does not come from motherhood. It comes from hearing the Word of God and keeping the Word of God. Proverbs 3.13 says these words, Happiness belongs to the person who finds wisdom, even to the person who gains understanding. So in closing, let me run a few things by you. Number one, a personal great happiness is a combination of four things. A personal sense of destiny, occupation with the Lord Jesus Christ, sharing the happiness of God, and maximum glorification of God. This means you're an ambassador for Christ and you must have this great happiness to be an ambassador for Christ. You can't be an ambassador, not be happy. Maximum glorification of God brings the greatest happiness you can have. In Psalm 119, verse 2, how happy are those who observe his testimonies and those who seek him with all their heart. So if you want to be happy, the flat line is where it starts. Having a personal sense of destiny in your life. Because the moment we die, we will enter into greater happiness being face-to-face with the Lord in our interim body and being with the loved ones who preceded us into heaven. So let me ask you in closing, are you happy? What do you base your happiness on? I hope you've learned something today, and I hope you'll come back next week. Until then, this is your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Join hosts Andy Pate and Rachel Maines as they discuss the pervasive influence of social evangelism and its implications on contemporary Christianity. This episode critiques the notion of comfort-driven evangelism and highlights the consequences of prioritizing deeds over a true commitment to faith. Through a detailed breakdown of biblical passages, they point towards the path of genuine belief and the importance of pointing good deeds towards glorifying God.
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This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes. With your host, John Rush.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job, Turk! You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I?
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Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Actually, it's Andy Pate. Party of choice.
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And welcome to our number two here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560. I'm Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Rachel Maines of AM670KLTT.
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Check us out on 670KLTT.com.
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And who is our other co-host here?
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Anne Meadow.
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Little Meadow.
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Yeah, Little Meadow. She just got a treat. You want a treat? It's liver.
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Yeah, throw it in the air. I'll see if I can catch it in my mouth.
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Freeze-dried dog treats. Beef liver.
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Oh, yeah. I'm down for that. Okay. Let's see if we can get this in in one segment because then I want to get to schooling. I want to get to education. There is a serious case of grooming that was done out in Jeffco in the Columbine High School that I'd like to get to. And it is really awful. But I think people need to know about it, about what teachers are doing with your kids. Yeah. And it's pretty serious. But first. Getting back to He Gets Us. I think a lot of people can look at this and be saying, Andy, come on, they're just nice ads, okay? They're talking about doing good deeds, washing people's feet, being selfless, taking care of this person. Yeah, they take some political shots. They're pretty left-wing. But, you know, come on, Andy, that's not a big deal. Here's why it is a big deal. And here's something that I think the church has really gotten wrong. Good deeds. Why do we do them? Why do we do good deeds? Let me ask you a few questions here, Rachel, because you're an expert. You do good deeds. You're a professional good deed doer. I've seen you do it. Okay, don't hide it. Here we go. Is it to make us good people? Are we defined by our deeds?
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No.
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No, absolutely not. I mean, by grace, you are saved in this, you know, through faith, through faith in Christ, in Christ, not of works, lest any man should boast. OK, if our deeds made us better people, then we could boast of it. And that would give our deeds a selfish motive, which would make us worse people.
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Right.
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You see how that doesn't work, folks? The math. The math is bad. Something can't make it better and worse at the same time. It doesn't work, okay? Next, is it to fix the world? Do we reverse the curse with our good deeds? Is this the Tower of Babel? We all come together doing good deeds and forget you, God. You were wrong way back then. We've got it finally figured out. He gets us, has taught us. We're going to come together, do good things, and fix this world. What do you say, Rachel?
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I disagree with that. Yeah. You know, on their website they say, Jesus showed us what greatness really is, and he didn't come to show people what greatness is. He came to save people.
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Yeah.
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So if you're not going to share the truth of the gospel, pointless.
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Sure, if you want to go— Why would you be saved if there's nothing to be saved from? Right, exactly. If they don't say you have to leave any of your sin, why be saved? Go ahead.
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Right. Well, there's so much to say there, but just— If we're not going to have the real gospel, then what's the point? If you want to go do good deeds, well, then start an organization, nonprofit, and go do good deeds. But don't say that Jesus is behind it. The message of the cross and the gospel is the most, in my opinion, important message ever. It's going to determine where we're spending eternity. So you've got to get the gospel right. So this organization, He Gets Us, is not the real gospel, which can lead a lot of people into confusion, lead people astray, and then maybe never hear the real gospel.
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Let me give a quick example. He gets us one thing on their website they talk about is John 8. And that's the story, remember, the woman, the adulteress, okay? And the people were going to stone her, stone her, stone her, which, by the way, reminds me of a Monty Python skit. But they were going to stone her. And what does he say? Jesus says, let any of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her. Okay. And at this, by the way, it's a good thing Meadow isn't there because Meadow is sinless and Meadow might have thrown a stone.
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She's perfect.
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She might have started something bad.
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Maybe a treat. She threw a treat.
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She could have wrecked his entire message. No, she's just wandering around. Okay. And they say, and he gets us. They'll look at that and say, see, we're not supposed to. You're throwing the first stone. You're judging people. Do not judge lest you be judged. Another scripture they mangle. But they forget what comes at the end of this passage. Okay, it's John 8, 8 through 11. I won't read through all of it. He does look at the woman. He says... all the people leave because nobody's without sin she says woman where are they has no one condemned you and she says no one sir and he says then neither do i condemn you oh that's wonderful beautiful yeah yeah what does he say then go and sin no more go and sin no more where does he gets us tell anyone sin no more
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Right. Well, I don't even think it never does. Yeah. They never talk about sin. No, it's irrelevant in this message. Yeah.
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You know, and people get they get angry when you say, well, homosexuality is a sin. Yes, it is. OK, folks, sin is not just when you do something bad to another person. OK. It is also when you do something bad to the creator God. If God has a created design with the human body, and then you use it unnaturally against that design. Now, does this mean I hate gay people? No, my best friend at work was a gay person. You live your life, okay? But that doesn't mean there are no consequences. Okay, you live your life, but I'm not going to be dishonest about the consequences. He gets us is dishonest about the consequences. Okay. Why do we do good deeds? We looked at these things here. Is it to make us good? No. Is it to fix the world? No. Is it a fishing lure? Okay. Remember, Peter, you guys be fishers of men. Are we bribing listeners with good deeds? Do we bribe them into the church with good deeds? No.
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using the buddy christ method to get them then to listen to the gospel message is that the way we're supposed to do it no i mean good deeds actually just puff you up with pride or religious pride and then you assume that because of my good deeds i deserve to go into heaven right um because that's the real goal right i mean if you believe there is an afterlife then you got to ask the question is there hell is there heaven a lot of people nowadays just think there's just heaven They don't believe in hell because a good God, in their opinion, wouldn't create a hell.
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Exactly.
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So good deeds, gospel message is, like we discussed, not the real gospel, plus creating pride in people to think, well, I deserve to go into heaven. The message of the cross— I've earned my way. I've earned my way. The message of the cross is no one was good and no not one. Jesus is in our place, and then we receive him. And then as we have a relationship with him, he will work in our hearts to do good deeds, but it's not good deeds to earn. It's because he loved me, he's forgiven me, that I do good deeds. But it's not something that we do as an earn. It's like more as a thankfulness.
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Right. Remember, when you lead with deeds first evangelism, he gets us in all social evangelism and achieves something Jesus could never achieve. It makes Jesus common. It makes him the same as all other religions. Why? All religions can sell deeds. Only one religion can sell the gospel, the true gospel. And this is the problem. When you lead with deeds first, even if you then give people the truth, I got news for you. They're looking at you saying, yeah, but you hooked me in on this. We've got to keep in mind, people are addicted to the world, not eternity with God. They're addicted to the world. That's the problem. That's called sin, right? We are addicted to the creation, not the creator, to the provision, not the provider, to the gifts, not the giver, right? That's what we're into. And if we hook them more on the world... by taking care of the things we do with them. By the way, we should do good deeds, but I'm going to tell you why in a moment. I'm telling you the bad reasons to do it here. If we hook them more in the world to draw them away from the world, does that make any sense?
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No.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I'm gonna hook you more. I'm gonna do these good deeds for you, make life more comfortable, or I'll have super music at my church, or I'll have a great youth program, and I'll provide all kinds of comforts. I'll bring you in with comforts. I'll bring you in with music. I'll bring you in with good deeds. I'll bring you in with things that you already like in this world that you could have without Jesus, to lead you to Jesus. So I'm going to get you more hooked on the very things that you rely on to get you to rely on Christ.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. What you're describing, I guess I would call, you know, the club of Christian being at like a membership of the Christian club.
SPEAKER 08 :
I call it bait and switch.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh yeah. And that's a good way to describe it too. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Because I'm using the bait, bait, bait, bait, bait, bait. And I'm using bait and switch. Okay. Because the idea is then I'm going to... and we got tons and millions and millions of lazy Christians. What they do is this. I'm going to use all these baits, all these baits, right? And then I'm going to bring them into the church, and we're going to have a great pastor who's really good at preaching.
SPEAKER 16 :
And give kind of like a TED Talk.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, this is called the big fisherman approach, by the way, just so you know. That's what we called it in Bible college. You would get all these people into the pews and then the big fishermen would reel them in because he is really great with spinning a phrase. So I get them in by nicing them into the church in through the doors. And then they are going to fall at Christ's feet because of the great message that they hear from the pastor. The problem is, have I converted them to Jesus or have I converted them to Jesus and all the benefits of being in the faith? OK, if you get converted to Jesus and are you converted to Jesus? No.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, it's Jesus only. Right. It's coming to the point of, wow, I need God's grace and mercy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Once again, remember, did Jesus say, I am a way, a truth, a life, and I am one of the paths to God? No, no, no. The way, the truth, the life. Right. No one comes to the Father but through me. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
You're describing progressive Christianity, though, really.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, all of it. He Gets Us is simply the latest version of progressive Christianity. Now, Matthew 5.16, it's a real easy one. In the same way, let your light shine before men that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. Notice how you mentioned earlier how when you do good deeds, people like you more, don't they?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, sure. Yes. People like nice people.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. And there are a lot of Christians saying, no, no, no, I do it to be good. I do it to be good. Hey, let's be honest with ourselves. Out there on those streets, in your schools, your work everywhere, there are these things called people. And you have tapped them for approval your entire life. Okay. Now. He gets us and other social evangelism, you know, other liberal churches, Christianity Today, these kinds of groups, they come to you and say, you can share Christ in a way that gets them also to like you. Okay. By the way, is that biblical?
SPEAKER 16 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's the opposite. Right. Blessed are you when you are persecuted for my name's sake. Did he say blessed are you when people like you because of the good deeds you do in my name and these bring you favor? Did he say that? No. Okay. That's not in the Bible. None of he gets us is in the Bible. Okay. Notice how it says here, let your light so shine that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven. If you do your deeds correctly, where do they point people's attention? At you or at your Father in heaven?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you're pointing at yourself. They're pointing at you.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you're talking about he gets us. You're supposed to do good deeds, but if you do them correctly, then they point attention to God. That's what I'm about to say. Okay. How do we do deeds correctly? How do we do good deeds? Well, I'm going to tell you. There are three words. What is the correct reason to do good deeds? To demonstrate belief. You are demonstrating belief. When you do deeds correctly, all you're doing is demonstrating belief in God. You're pointing to Him. Let me give you an example here. Let's say that you come up to a canyon. Okay. And you're with somebody else. And they tell you, Rachel, there is an invisible bridge that goes across this canyon. Go ahead and walk across it. Okay. Because guess what? Jesus is invisible. We can't see, feel, hear, touch, smell him.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that's basically what we're telling people. And they say, Rachel, walk across that bridge. But then they won't walk across it first. What does that tell you? Well, it says they don't believe. Okay, they don't believe in the bridge. Let me give you another one. Let's say that you have a friend who says, I got a great investment opportunity, Rachel. Oh, it's awesome. You invest in this company, you're going to make, you know, 30% back in the first year. It's incredible. But then they won't put a dime in. What does that tell you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, same thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. What I'm going to talk about after the break is why deeds done correctly Good deeds. All the same good deeds. I want you to do them, folks. But deeds done correctly show people that you believe in the invisible bridge and you believe in the investment. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 16 :
That makes sense.
SPEAKER 08 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, Rachel, let's wrap this up really quick. I want to move on to a Colorado school and what they did with a kid. Really quick here, why do we do good deeds? We do them to demonstrate belief. Here's what I mean. If you want true evangelism, folks, it's not he gets us, okay? He gets us as deeds first evangelism, portraying Christ as being like every other religion. Right. That's not good. Here's 1 Peter 3.15. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have, but do this with gentleness and respect. Okay. When people hear that there's one big problem, they're going to say, yeah, but no one's asking. Okay. You're right, folks. They're not asking. Here's why. It says they're asking about the hope that you have. If we hope in the same things that other people hope in, are they going to ask us about our hope?
SPEAKER 16 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
No. Why would they? Right. We're hoping. So let's say you're working in a job and, you know, you don't get a promotion that you do deserve. All right. You don't get a pay raise that you do deserve. You don't get some, you know, that shift that you do deserve and somebody else gets it and they don't deserve it. And let's say you show bitterness over this and you're frustrated over this and you complain about it and you commiserate with your friends and they say, oh, you're so right, Rachel, you deserve that. Let me ask you something. Are you showing that you hope in God or that you hope in the world?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, definitely the world.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Every time we show in any way, shape or form that we hope in the world, we are showing people that we hope in the same things they do. Good deeds help break that. OK, so let me give a quick example. Remember when Jesus talked about the widow who gave, you know, all these people were giving their money, you know, to the offering. And then this widow comes in and she only gives two little coins. And Jesus says, truly, I tell you, she has given more than everybody else because she gave all that she had to live on.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. I don't have time to go to the reference. Think about it from he gets us perspective. That just transferred wealth from the poor. Okay, that was wealth distribution from the poor. If we're supposed to use good deeds to fix the world and have the greatest worldly impact, then Jesus just got it wrong. She messed up by giving the only two coins that she had to live on. Now we got to take care of her. Now, you see what I mean? This is transferring wealth from the poor. It's supposed to go the other way around. Jesus, you're a bad Christian. See what I'm saying? No, because when she gave those two coins all she had to live on, what was she doing? She was showing trust in who? In God. In God. She says, I'm going to trust in the creator, not the creation. In the giver, not the gifts. In the provider, not the provision. I'm not going to fall apart when I don't get that promotion at work. I'm not going to fall apart when I don't get the shift I want. I'm not going to fall apart. When I go to a restaurant, I'm going to tip well. Why? I'm not going to cling to that extra couple bucks for dear life. I'm going to tip well. Why? Because I know God has my needs taken care of forever. And by the way, Christians are lousy tippers. And what kind of a witness do you think that is? Go ahead.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that's terrible. Yeah, I think, you know, it is simple. We can make our faith complex, but it's simple. And you just nailed it. If we're looking... To God as our everything, as our provider, as, you know, even providing emotions that are healthy and also providing wholeness in us, then we will live differently. He'll change us from the inside and then we will have good deeds. But the motive isn't, I'm going to go do a good deed. It's just his change in us. And as we focus on him. Rightly so, our actions will follow of having good deeds. So a question, too, is what is a good deed in his eyes versus what is a good deed in our eyes?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. A good deed in our eyes, honestly, is one that makes people happy. Happy people like us more. And we want to believe that happy people will draw closer to God through happy. OK, sorry, doesn't work that way. A true good deed is one that shows people I rely on the invisible bridge. In fact, I'm going to walk on the invisible bridge. Remember the sheep and the goats? OK, I won't tell the whole story. I'll simply say this. You know, when Jesus says, you know, and I was hungry and you fed me and I was, you know, the whole story. Right. And at the end he says, as you've done for the least of these, you've done for me. And the question is, why the least of these? Is it because redistribution of wealth? Because we're helping those who have the least and therefore we're redistributing wealth and we're fixing the world and we're fixing the problem and the Tower of Babel was right and mankind is united to fix. No. It's because they can't pay back, folks.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
If I give Elon Musk, you know, 20 bucks, what am I probably expecting? He can pay it back with interest. He's going to take care of me. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, your motive behind it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. If I help somebody with nothing, what am I going to get back, Rachel?
SPEAKER 16 :
Nothing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Nothing. I am showing when I help the least of these, I am relying on who? God. I'm looking at him and saying, I have less now. I had more, now I have less, which means I'm relying on you more, which means I'm relying on the world less. That's why I give to the least of these. In our good deeds, when you do good deeds, folks, the big reason, I'll wrap it with this, is to show people around you, I rely on him, not all of this. If I hope in the same things you do, you have no reason to ask me about my hope. Always be prepared to give an answer. Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And the draw would be then for them is as they watch your life, Andy, they would want to get to know the God that has changed you so that they too can be changed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Because now they look at you or back in the workplace and we'll finish with this. You're back in the workplace. Okay. You lose that promotion. You lose this. You lose that. Oh, it's not that you celebrate it. You're not stupid. I understand that. But you take it with eternal perspective. You realize, wait a minute. I'm going to live forever. This entire life is like we see in the book of James. It's an instant in time. We are a mist that vanishes. I am here only for an instant. I've got eternity with Christ. Losing this promotion is not the end of the world. And you show eternal perspective. And you take it well. And you turn around and you help somebody who can't pay you back. And you live that kind of a sacrificial life. And you tip well. And you help. And you do hug the gay person. Of course I do. I fuck gay people. I don't care. You know, but you don't do it to try to nice them as a lure to get them to listen to gospel messages. You do it to show them this. I'm not afraid. I've got eternal life ahead of me. And by the way, I like you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I want the best for you. And that's it, period.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that Christ has done a work in me. Yeah, I think that's the thing is he does work in us. We're his workmanship once we are in relationship with them. You say born again. What does that mean? His spirit comes to live inside of us. Right. And we're not on the same time frame here. He works individually with each of us because we have so many different nuances in our personalities. Right. He works in us in his time frame. So we don't need to compare ourselves to other people. Just, you know, focus on what is he doing in me now?
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. And once again, what's the second half of that from first Peter? If they ask you a question, look, if you actually demonstrate hope in the creation creator over the creation and you don't fall apart every time.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah, and haven't we all had situations where it's been devastating, heartbreaking as Christians, but I can look back and I saw the bittersweetness that it drawed me more towards Christ?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that's beauty in itself, so it's not like we shun hardship.
SPEAKER 08 :
The true Christian, like the Apostle Paul, sees suffering as an opportunity.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, to draw near and get closer to our Lord.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and also to demonstrate faith in him. If I have it all, it's harder to demonstrate faith. If I have less, it's easier.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You see, and that is the way. One last thing about he gets us. It says always be prepared to give an answer. He gets us, gives no answers. Right. Folks, he gets us. Leads with deeds, makes Jesus like every other faith. It is the wide gate to destruction. It is the Tower of Babel bringing everybody together. It's Babylon. That is what he gets us is. It's basically Babylon. And it's not good for you. And I think we needed to go away.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 08 :
I really do. $100 million spent without one single word saying why he's true.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
What a waste.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's so sad because they could have shared the real gospel.
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush on the line right now. We got Richard Rush. Richard, did you suit up for Canada? Did you help them beat us?
SPEAKER 05 :
Andy. Do I have you to blame? Not many nations. There's not many nations I would suit up for, and Canada is not one of them. Okay. But, Andy, that was fun. You're not a big hockey guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I'm not.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was fun.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hockey, I'm sorry, but they refuse to score. There's not enough scoring. You know me. I'm an impatient American. I want scoring.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it is better. You like the NBA because there's no defense in the NBA these days. Exactly. That's why you like it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm in heaven. It doesn't matter. My team doesn't win. It doesn't make any difference. You know, I will say this, though. Hockey is better than soccer because everything on earth is.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I get up for soccer four times every four years, right? World Cup, all watch. Again, U.S. versus anyone. whatever it might be. But then obviously once we lose, which we're lucky if we make it to the group of 16, then I sort of tune out. So I'm with you. And, and, and, and I know a lot of people will say that we're wrong, but we're right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thus proving again, you're more man than I, I could not do it. Hey, really quick. And don't worry. I don't want to get any ice. We've already spent enough time on it, but the, he gets us ads. So these drive you as nuts as me.
SPEAKER 05 :
Uh, just, yeah, not, not my cup of tea. Right. And especially the background and where it, where it comes from. And, it it's got the potential to be great and it ultimately andy is a good message that sort of thing yes but yeah we'll just leave it it's a message to lots of faultiness i mean the idea of do good things i mean that's fine but i think they go off track after that okay what's happening sir what's happening in the world of sports andy it's it's a well so so this is like the worst Three weeks in sports, except for this week, right? Because this week we've got the Combine, which for you and I and Waltz, of course, is fun, right? Really a fun time. I enjoy it. Not many people do, right? The Underwear Olympics, all the things going on. But outside of that, the next several weeks, Andy, between now and March Madness, and then obviously once March Madness kind of kicks off, we've got that for a few weeks, and then we have the Masters. And then we've got the NHL and NBA playoffs starting, and then we have the draft, and things start to get rolling. But right now is sort of the dead time in sports.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. You know, the underwear Olympics at the Combine, you know, some people write it off, I think, too much. And you know where I am on this. Um, I'm kind of a mix. Okay. Because everybody always, every year, everybody always debates what means more the height, weight, speed, timing, and all, and how they, you know, their strength and all that kind of stuff at the combine. Or. how they performed during the year for their college. And I think it's a mix. One thing I really like about the Combine is this. Maybe they performed really well at their college because they got a great offensive line in front of them. Maybe they performed really well at their college because their receivers always got open. Or maybe they had a better coach. At least when you go to the Underwear Olympics or the Combine, You know, all that's taken away. It's mano a mano, right? You are out there having to do one-on-one drills, pass rushing, one-on-one drills, covering somebody, one-on-one drills, whatever, right? In doing all the throws as a quarterback. I like that. And so because of that, I really do like the combine. Where are you at on this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm with you. I think it can provide value, right? It provides probably most of the value of the stuff that we don't see, right, Andy? The medicals, the interviews.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Teams. I think that, you know, how many times has a medical thing, right, come up with a combine and the team has, you know, checked someone off or an interview has really sold them on a prospect and they're much more likely to take them, right? And obviously it's the stuff we don't see about. But I like to perform. I won't buy. I do like the measurables when it comes to – because I just like to see the freak assets, right, Andy? Sure. I like to see that linebacker or that defense – that edge player who's 6'5", You know, 245 pounds and he runs a 4-4-5. Like, that's crazy to me. Like, just the amount of the sheer athleticism that that guy brings, I do think that part is fun.
SPEAKER 08 :
However— Well, if I may, really quick here, because I think this is where you're going. Richard, how do you determine, as a draft guru, because you are— whether this guy is going to look like Tarzan by play like Jane, right? So this guy has all the measurables, but you just know he's just not going to have it on the field, or maybe he will. Maybe in college he didn't produce, but he's going to develop going forward. How do you know?
SPEAKER 05 :
I feel like, Andy, it's sort of a combination, right? Because it's my John Ross theory, right? You go back to John Ross, right? I think he ran the fastest 40 in combine history, if I'm not mistaken, right? He was really good in the straight line. Not so good stopping and starting. Right. And you go back and look at some of his other numbers and stuff like that, and it's like, you know, the Raiders were famous for this, right? You know, Darius Hayward-Bate, that's a name for you, Andy, and some of you people out there are like, Richard, what are you talking about? All I can say is I just remember a random piece of information.
SPEAKER 08 :
He ran in the low 4-2s and couldn't play football.
SPEAKER 05 :
ran super fast, yet couldn't catch the ball, which is kind of important for a receiver. Right, Andy? You've got to be able to catch the ball. Or John Ross.
SPEAKER 08 :
John Ross, didn't he run like a 4-1-8 or 4-1-9 or something crazy? But then, when you can't look, if you don't cut fast... You know, when we think about the Cheetah, who is with Kansas City and then, you know, Miami, he's not just fast straight down the field. He's fast out of a cut. He bursts out of a cut so fast. That's where the problem is. How fast are you out of a cut? Because that creates space. If all you are is fast straight down the field, then a good athlete at cornerback just backs up, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
And John Ross couldn't come out of a cut. And to me, it's... I think the combine allows for guys who maybe would be overlooked without the combine, and it forces a team to say, let's go back and re-watch the tape, right? Right. For example, like you said, Tyreek Hill or whatever it might be, because ultimately, Andy, for example, Shigeru Sanders, he's not going to work out. He's not going to throw, which to me I think is fine because I think he only has – He can only lose by doing that, and not that he would have a poor showing or anything of that nature.
SPEAKER 08 :
Don't you worry, though, that he might fall down to around 8 or 9?
SPEAKER 05 :
Andy, to me, I think that teams are going to look at Cam Ward or Shador, and they're going to say, I like one or the other. I don't think they're going to both be a flavor for a lot of teams, which we're going to see in a second. To me, I think if someone stands out in combine testing... then you go back and look at their film and say, okay, maybe this guy was playing with a terrible defensive line. Maybe he's an edge rusher. He's got all of the potential in the world. He just was on a bad team. But, man, he's 6'5", 250, 260. He can run lights out. We can work with this kid. That, to me, is where the combine sort of separates us. So you ask kind of how do I determine. I almost say, wow, that guy can jump out of the gym. Then I go back and watch some of the film, not as much as obviously these teams do, and then I say, wow, that might be something that that guy can actually – he might be able to be something. Right. Versus, again, a guy like Darius Hayward-Bey. or John Ross, yeah, jumps off the screen with these really, really great times. But then when you go watch their film, nothing else jumps off the screen. And that's where I think these teams make the biggest mistakes.
SPEAKER 08 :
You see, this is what I loved about Bo Nix. The film did jump. Okay, he jumped off the film. You could tell in college this guy was kind of a poor man's Drew Brees. And we never know, you know, will he take the next step and become that? He could. He's certainly got the talent. Maybe he won't. Maybe he'll plateau. You never know, right? You just never know. But when I look at the draft right now. And you've got the two top quarterbacks. And a lot of people, because a lot of people are thinking, well, how's this going to go? You've got Cam Ward, like you said, and Shader Sanders. But you've also got these insane athletes who are not just athletes, but they are football players. Obviously, Travis Hunter here at Colorado. You've got Abdul Carter, right, for Penn State, the edge guy. He's not just big and fast, dude. He can play. You've got Will Johnson, the cornerback from Michigan. You've got Ashton Jonte, obviously the running back who you're hoping will drop to the Broncos. I think that's hoping a lot. But you've got a number of these guys who are freaks, but they can play. So my question to you is this. If you're sitting there and you're Tennessee or you're Cleveland or you're the Giants, not the Patriots, they kind of got their guy, but if you're one of those teams, do you take a risk on the QB or do you go for the sure thing?
SPEAKER 05 :
Andy, to me, I feel like if I was these teams, I would have to look and say, I'm not sure. I guess what I would have to look at is say, do I think that one of these quarterbacks can make me leaps and bounds better, or do I think that they can be a Drake man?
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Yeah, if you're going to get a Jaden Daniels, yeah, you jump all over it, but go ahead.
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Of course, even a Bo Nitz, right? Do I think that this guy can do that? But I think, again, as much as I like Shador, and I think that he can be a player, I think in the right situation he can do a lot, and I think that he can surprise people, because I think some people don't know how good he can be But to me, if I'm Tennessee, you are more than a quarterback away, right?
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And so how often are you going to get the first overall pick? And when you look at a guy like Abdul Carter, so for folks who don't know, he's a pass rusher from Penn State. Freak. To me, he's Micah Parsons, right? Yeah. And we'll see how he compares, but to me, he's that good. And so I take that, and as much as I like Travis Hunter, I'd look at Abdul Carter and say, wow, I would take that guy. If I'm the Browns, I try to trade or maybe take a Travis Hunter, maybe take something else, because even with everything with Deshaun Watson, all of that going on, I still think you've got a lot of pieces that you've got to add. And, again, as much as I like Shador, as much as I like – well, I'm not a huge Cam Ward guy, but as much as I like some of these other guys, I just think, Andy, that these teams have to look and say – Is there a guy like Jayden Daniels who, you know, Washington wasn't a quarterback away, but he came in and he really elevated a lot of portions of their team?
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And so I think obviously they benefited from that. But to me, Shador, I think you've got to go to the right place. Honestly, I think Vegas is probably the perfect spot for him because I think a guy like Pete Carroll is going to come in and sort of reshape the culture and we'll be able to do a lot of that. That would be a nice spot for him.
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I agree.
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But if I'm – now, Andy, the Giants are interesting. And the reason the Giants are interesting is because I don't know if their front office and their general manager, their general manager and their coach, I don't know if they have much more time. This, to me, feels like their last go-around. And it's like, okay, if you pick a quarterback like Shador or Cam Ward, and maybe he shows a little bit of promise in year one, you might be able to get an extra year. Versus if you pass on the guy... you better make sure you're passing on him for the right dude. And I just don't know if they have the extra leeway of time. And I think that plays a role into it. But if I'm Cleveland or if I'm Tennessee Indy, you either trade back or you take one of these other guys. Because I do think there's some talent, Andy, and you and I have talked about this. There is some talent available. It's just that a matter of, well, maybe which position that talent is available at.
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Okay, one last quick question, real quick, and then we'll go to break. We'll come back and talk a little, maybe NBA. I don't know. There's a lot of things we can talk about. Do you have any question, though, that you've got a star in Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, or Will Johnson? I mean, looking at these, and Ashton Jonte, but he is a running back. It's a little different. But looking at these guys, they just seem like sure things.
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Yeah, Andy, I mean, again, Travis, I know a lot of guys are talking about he's a corner that's going to play some wide receiver. I prefer him at corner. Yeah, and I'm too. I think he's going to play some key roles. Really, it's not going to be for his whole career. As much as I think it's crazy what he did in college and I get what Dion's saying, the NFL is just a different game, Andy. Maybe we can talk about that briefly when we come back. But yeah, I think Abdul Carter is as close to a sure thing as you get. Same with Travis Hunter. I think both of these guys are. I think there's some offensive linemen that are that way. But to me, the strength of this draft, Andy, is sort of in those middle-tier prospects where there's maybe not a ton of bona fide stars, but there's a lot of really good depth and some really good pieces that can really enhance some teams.
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Yeah, offensive line. And I know a lot of people are listening. They don't know these names, but you're going to. Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks. I mean, you're going to know these guys, and they're really good. I mean, they are really exciting, and I don't know if I'd want to take any chances. Okay, let's take a break. We'll be right back with Richard Rush. Up next is Ridgeline Auto Brokers. When you're looking at used cars, you want good selection and the best inspections. Ridgeline has both, and you'll find both at klzradio.com.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Rush is on right now. Richard, got just a couple minutes left here. I think the Denver Nuggets are now one of the top four teams in the league. I think they've risen up there. I think you're talking Cleveland. You're talking Boston. You're talking OKC and Denver. What do you think?
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I love your confidence, Andy, because I'm not quite there. And the main thing is they don't have enough consistency, right? They have the best player on the planet in Jokic. And if Jamal Murray, Michael Porter, if those guys can come along with him consistently, I am in full agreement with you. They are really tough to beat. Darn near impossible. Even OKC, I think they've got a little bit more championship metal than OKC does. I just am not ready. I just haven't seen enough of it yet to 100%. But I think they've got all the talent in the world to get there. I just don't know if they're quite there in terms of consistency. And that's what makes me nervous because I think that they can, and I think that they're potentially squandering a darn near one of the top seasons of all time for anyone in the entire history of the NBA and for wherever you want to put Joker on the scale. So that's what worries me. But I love your confidence, and I'll take it as a guy who's sort of an outsider, and that's not your team. So I'll take it.
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Oh, yeah, I think they're terrific. I think, look, no offense, but I do see, as the frontrunners, I do see the top two teams being the frontrunners because they are that good. Cleveland and OKC are just, I love these teams. I do. I love how they're constructed. I love how they play. I think they finally, they're not so young now. I think they've aged into their skin. You know what I mean? And I think they're going to be awfully tough to beat. But what's so interesting this year, I'm not sold on the Memphis, by the way. I'm just not sold. Sorry. I think they fall apart when the playoffs come. But when I look at Boston and Denver, maybe. be the lakers now that they got you know i mean i don't i still don't think the lakers will hold up but when i look at boston and denver i think the playoffs look interesting very interesting because each of the top two teams has a hell of a competitor nipping at their heels no they do it wasn't to me andy for the for speaking of the nuggets directly
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that two or three seed, which is right where they slot in, right, depending on how they finish down the stretch here, the two or the three is right where they want to be, right? Because that would allow them to play, you know, they play obviously a much lower seed, get home court in the first round. And then if that two seed, which is potentially Memphis, if you're either three or vice versa, I think that's a very beatable team. I'm with you 100%. And then that saves OKC that forces them to have to get through a few different matchups in order to get to you. And yeah, I just think that OKC, here's an interesting question for you. We don't have a ton of time. At what point do they have too many assets? Because they can't use all the picks that they've gotten. I mean, they've got literally the definition of embarrassment of riches. They do. Is the Oklahoma City Thunder. Because they've got like, for folks that don't know, they've got like 20 first round picks over the next like six or seven drafts. I mean, there's just not enough room on their roster, Andy. Look, I think...
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Well, obviously they package them and they get better picks. I think OKC is going to be a juggernaut for so long. And you almost look at them and just say, please don't win it this year because you're going to win it a lot of years coming up. And it's going to be so hard. I just don't know. I see OKC, they've arrived a year earlier than I thought, but they're legit. They are legit.
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They're very good. Again, the only thing I just don't know with them is, is the playoffs as you know are a different mentality and their strength well their strength is their use and their depth right and in the playoffs you've seen time and time again when the benches get shortened right other players they got to step up and to me i just you know outside of sga i know they don't get me wrong they have a really good team and a really good starting lineup i'm just not sure how that how that plays but i guess we'll find out
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Yeah, I think it's going to be great. I think watching SGA in the playoffs, I can't wait. I think it's going to be exciting. And I think, honestly, I think Cleveland-Boston is even going to be more exciting. I think we're looking at a war. Richard, thank you so much, sir.
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Thank you, sir. Have a great day.
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You take care. Okay, folks, that's it for Hour 2 and Hour 3. We're going to have the Monday Mortgage Minute with Kurt Rogers, and then Jersey Joe brings fun and facts. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice. And I'm your host, Andy Pate, filling in for John Rush today. And I am joined by Rachel Main. And she's here from where? I am here from, well, KLTT. KLTT. What do you do at KLTT?
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I'm the ops manager. So I can make sure that you run everything. I do what Charlie does, but he's everybody we look up to. You know, he's the guy that we all ask questions and he has all the answers.
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He's my Yoda.
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Yeah, he's definitely for everybody. I think here he is.
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Well, tell people just a little bit about KLTT. Where can they find it? What's it about?
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Yeah. AM670KLTT. You can go to 670KLTT.com to learn more. And it's Christian Talk.
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So we are a sister station here. Four stations here. And we have so many great stations and so many great people to work with.
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Well, because Rachel is here today, I'm going to be talking not just about politics, as I always do, because that's what I do, okay? But we're also going to be talking a little about Christianity. And what we're really going to be talking about is the He Gets Us movement. And those, you know, the Super Bowl ads, I don't know if you've seen them. But we're going to be talking about those, and I'll just tell you right out, folks, I don't like them. So we'll be really getting into that in the second half of the hour. But first, I want to hit some of the news. Are you ready, Rachel?
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I think I'm ready. I think Meadow's ready.
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Yes, we have a co-host, a co-co-host in the studio, the real star of the show, Little Meadow. What kind of dog is Meadow?
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Well, she's a terrier and she's a mini. So she is a Yorkie terrier and she's a mini. So she'll be all of five pounds as an adult. So right now she's 4.4 pounds.
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And she is basically the studio mascot.
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Well, yeah.
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Meadow is adorable.
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Yeah, she's a support animal for all of us. And her job description is to make people smile.
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Right.
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And just be cute.
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And folks, Meadow has a microphone. So if you hear growling, it's not my tummy. It is Meadow, the star of the show. OK, let's get into some of the headlines over the weekend. There are a lot, everything about Trump, but everything he does is a headline. Let's do some other stuff first. First of all, my home state of Wisconsin has decided the governor is proposing to replace mother. in state law with inseminated person.
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What?
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Yes. Hey, it's a Democrat, okay? And let's see, also changing paternity to parentage, whatever, and father to parent, because we've got to get men out. You know, paternity, that's too male, right? So just parentage. And father to parent in certain parts of state law, okay? What do you think of that?
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Well, you know, all this stuff is getting so confusing and the whole the gender and how we have to, you know, they are, you know, all that. I just think it's too confusing. I think we just ignore it. And I think now with Trump, I'd like to see some of this stuff kind of rolled back.
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Well, I would, too. By the way, the Green Bay Packers will now be the Green Bay football carrying persons. And I think that's really good. You know, instead of the dairy state, Wisconsin will now be the cow byproduct state, which rolls right off the tongue. Doesn't it? It does. I'm very proud of it. I believe that my old pal Dan, he lives in Minnesota. Minnesota and Wisconsin, they need to combine into one great state called Minnesota.
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I like that.
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Because their governor, of course, was Kamala's VP candidate. So Minnesota next to Wisconsin. Right now, those two states are gobbling up all the stupid for the entire country. California needed a break. Okay. Up next is Hooters. The popular restaurant is filing for bankruptcy, which begs, of course, the question, where am I going to work? I mean, no, seriously, Rachel, how can they let all this talent go to waste?
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Well, yeah, you know, hey, don't give up. Don't give up. That's what I say, Andy.
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Well, you've actually done modeling, right?
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Well, I'm in a talent agency, Big Fish. And hey, you could join the agency.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Charlie, pick yourself up. He's laughing kind of hard in there. Okay. Okay. They're filing for bankruptcy, and the big reason is, of course, just costs, cost overruns. Look, this is actually true of all restaurants out there. They are operating on such tight margins, and a lot of the problem was COVID. And you had all these policies that were put in in COVID, and each restaurant has had to decide, how many of these are we going to relax? And the more you relax... The better it is. But some of them that, let's just say, hold on to them a little bit, their costs are just too high and they're not making the buck. And also all the costs of their food costs, everything, it's through the roof.
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Don't you think we're turning that around, though?
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We are.
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It's going to take a while. I realize you get the ship kind of turned around. It doesn't happen quickly.
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Exactly. This is like turning around a barge, not a canoe. And, you know, I laugh at these people who look at Trump and say, well, you know, you've been in office a whole month. Why are things still expensive? That's right, Meadow. Meadow's upset, too.
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She has an opinion. And, you know, she is a Republican.
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Meadow is a very Republican dog. That's why she's very angry when she hears about inflation. You know, these people who look at Trump and say, why haven't you turned it around? Folks... You without doing direct price controls, which become a disaster. OK, you have to let the market work. And the only things you can do is boost supply. Well, that takes time. You can't boost supply. He doesn't literally wave a wand to boost supply. He has to loosen regulations. He has to bring in new deals. And he does that. But that's going to take a little time. It won't take that long. And of course, you got to make energy cheaper, which he's doing now. But that's not going to happen overnight. In the meantime, you're going to look at places like Hooters and they're going to struggle.
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Right.
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So that's bad news. Next. Let's see. There was a protest held in favor of California's high-speed rail, which is in danger right now with Trump looking at it and saying, we have spent $17 billion. You've been sent $17 billion, I believe it is, for this thing. You haven't built any rail.
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Yeah, that's... I don't know much about that, but I did hear nothing has been done, correct?
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Right. Yeah, that's terrible. So they had a whole dozen protesters rallying for California's high-speed rail, which I just want to say is 12 more than those who have ridden California's high-speed rail. So, you know, folks, high-speed rail is a joke. And if you look at high-speed rail anywhere, and by the way, even if you look here in Denver, I know everybody loves light rail. Light rail. Light rail, light rail. And the one good thing about it is it can alleviate some of the parking issues downtown. I get that. Okay. But if you simply look at the number of the people who use it versus the cost, first of all, and secondly, versus the number of people who use every lane, any lane of I-25 going into town. It's embarrassing. Yeah, it is embarrassing.
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Yeah.
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OK, we are getting virtually nothing out of this. We're wasting money. High speed rail is a joke. OK, next, Pam Bondi. She has the Epstein list.
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Love her.
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I do love her desk. Is she magnificent or what?
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His his whole crew is just wow. Amazing.
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They are flat out the best, I mean, the best group I've ever seen. They are absolutely, starting with his VP. And then, you know, Elon, of course. And all the way down, all of them are fantastic. In the next segment, we're going to be talking about Dan Bongino, who's just joined the FBI. I want to talk about that in the next segment. But first of all, back to Pam Bondi. She has the Epstein list. There were hundreds of names on it, apparently. But Doge, they got in, they cut it to five. OK. And just the most essential members are left. And Bill Clinton made the cut. Of course.
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We all knew that. We don't need them to release to know that.
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Right. OK. Doge didn't actually cut their numbers, but it's going to be volcanic when that's released. What do you expect? I mean, do you think this is going to be really bad?
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Well, yeah, I would suspect for sure. I think some of them may be shock for some of the people, you know, that were like, wow.
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Bottom line, folks, we're talking about underage prostitution here. Okay. Terrible. Yeah. Okay. So I don't know. I think that's going to go really bad now. That brings us to Dan Bongino. In the next segment, Dan Bongino, folks, is moving to the FBI as the deputy director. Amen. I love this guy. I'm a big Dan Bongino fan. I've been part of the Bongino army for years now. I'm excited. But in the next segment, I want to talk about, well, what difference is this going to make for Kash Patel? Sound good? Sounds great. Okay, up next is Golden Eagle Financial. Prepare your financial future by maximizing your present with Al Smith. No one does it better. So call Al at 303-744-1128 or you can find him at klzradio.com.
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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLC 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush along with Rachel Main from... KLTT AM 670.
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That's right. Yeah, right across the hallway. And definitely tune in. It's great Christian talk. So... We have some great programming like Jack Hibbs. We know he's a friend of the Republican Party, and he's spoken at Congress, I believe, Jack Hibbs. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so great programming. Aaron Budgen, Living God Ministries. Just go to our website, 670KLTT.com. And I've got to mention that Andy's been on my show, Corner Cafe.
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I have.
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And I love when we talk about evolution and science. I just, you know.
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And you survived it.
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I survived it. You're doing much better.
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The twitching has stopped.
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Well, you know, when I went to college, that's when I started twitching, when they were teaching me evolution. But on certain occasions, I did stick up and ask the professor, like, hey, what about this and that? And on a couple occasions, I got him to kind of backtrack.
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Well, in the next segment, we're going to start talking about He Gets Us and basically really getting into, okay, a lot of people don't like He Gets Us. We'll talk about some good reasons why. But how are Christians supposed to? operate in this society what are some good things that we can do maybe some things we can avoid and i think he gets us gets us gives us really good ideas of what to avoid yeah which is kind of good and meadow has an opinion meadow has a big opinion on this okay dan bongino do you like dan bongino i do i love dan yeah i've seen him on tv i've always thought wow this guy is really intelligent i like his personality i like his worldview he's perfect he is awesome dan bongino of course worked with the secret service he's been a cop he's been he's been in law enforcement for a long time now he is a very wealthy man and that's why this is interesting he has built an empire really a media empire the bongino report which i go to every day to look for my news ever since the drudge report went hard left i went to the bongino report okay And Dan Bongino also has a terrific podcast, which will be ending after about three more shows. He is having to give all this up. And I'm telling you, he's having to give up some real income. OK, Dan Bongino makes a lot of money doing what he does. He is giving up a ton of income so that he can go be the deputy director of the FBI under Kash Patel.
SPEAKER 09 :
Amazing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, amazing. And I guess my first question, before we even talk about him at the FBI, who replaces him? I mean, that's an empire. That's when Rush Limbaugh passed away. You know, we all wondered, okay, who's going to replace him? Now, Dan would be the first to say he's not on the level of Rush Limbaugh because nobody has been, okay? But he would say... you know who's going to fill in he was even talking about that hey some people who need to step up he was talking about on a show this morning and my question is who will step up i know we don't know yeah but what it can't be somebody who's going to try to mimic him that's not going to work you got to be your own unique person
SPEAKER 08 :
I know he has good connections. He knows good peeps, you know, and I'm just thankful that all these amazing people are just stepping up to volunteer.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
To help the United States of America out. All Trump's team, you know, a lot of them are giving up a lot to do this.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. Well, really quick here. What what really gets me excited about him going to the FBI is this. I have been a manager at theaters. I've been a manager in casinos. I have managed departments. I've managed 16 plexes. I have managed big, small, whatever, a lot of things in between. And one thing I've really experienced is what it's like to go in as the only guy. The only person going into an organization or department that totally needs to be cleaned up, a place that has a terrible reputation, a place that is bad. Okay, so you think, okay, I'll go in there. That's easy. I'm following a bad and easy act to follow. I'll just go in. The problem is everybody who's there hates organizations. that you're coming in because they have all benefited from it being bad. They have all benefited tremendously. They've gotten lots of hours more than they've had to work. They've had it easy. They've gotten every benefit in the book. They have no discipline. They have no standards. They don't have to do anything. And I'm not saying they're all terrible employees. You'll also have some that are wonderful, which makes it even harder because now you've got to weed out the good from the bad. You can't just go in and swing the ax, right? That's ridiculous. Right. Look, when you go in, it is an incredibly lonely feeling. I'm sure. It is incredibly lonely. And for you to have a number two who is absolutely not 99 percent, but 100 percent on board with what you are doing in cleaning out the riffraff, it means everything. I think this is for Kash Patel. What do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that's a great assessment. I think that you need to have a team behind you and a person with you to help you to just be the guy that's Giving you confidence, too. And he has a lot of experience, Dan Bongino. I don't know as much about him as you do. But he's perfect for this role.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, his knowledge of intel and police work is tremendous. Not just that he's done it for years, but he's also been a commentator, an expert on it for years. He knows it inside and out. But the thing is, is that Cash knows this guy's got his back. He knows my number two. There is no degree of separation between us on anything. We are one. I would have loved to have not been alone going into a number of those situations. It is a living hell going in to clean up a bad situation. And your bosses say, well, you're following an easy act. You don't understand. These people are going to make every claim in the book against you. They're going to say that you were this unfair. If you say hello, you know... It doesn't matter what you do. They'll say you were rude. They will say that, you know, they're just going to say anything. They're going to lie. They're going to cheat. They're going to steal. They're going to do a lot of terrible things, especially after what we've seen in the FBI. And they're going to aim it all at getting you, Kash Patel, fired.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. You need Dan Boncino. I think it's phenomenal.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think it's amazing. I think all the decisions that Trump has made with his team is... you know, excellent and I wouldn't have expected anything less. And I'm excited to get this new team rolling. I just wish we had more than four years.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know me too. Well, you know what? I really think Vance will probably be our next candidate. Maybe DeSantis, maybe a ticket. I think we're going to win again. I think we got more than four. That's my prediction. Okay. I think we got a minimum of eight. Just saying.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I, I hope so. And I, I see the tides turning that way too, just with the common sense that, you know, everyone's saying, Hey, we're going back to common sense as a society. Yeah. And especially since how the Democrats are acting right now, they're not learning their lesson of what the majority of people want.
SPEAKER 03 :
When they get together and do these little chants and things, what they basically are are advertisements for the Republican Party. It's beautiful. I want to send them money, but then I don't. On the line is someone who I think knows a thing or two about this. John from Cheyenne. John, what do you think of Dan Bongino and Kash Patel?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, as a son of a... New York City detective. He's a graduate at NYPD Police Academy, so that's a one-up right there. He knows how to be a cop before anything else. Yeah. Because you don't survive on the NYPD if you don't know how to be a good cop.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know what he reminds me of really quick here, John? Bruce Willis from Die Hard. John McClane. Kind of.
SPEAKER 06 :
But here's what I'm seeing with Cash Patel and now Bongino. Yeah. And, you know, It's me and you, so you know there's a movie reference here. Remember when Patton took over in North Africa and what he did when he first took the army over?
SPEAKER 03 :
You mean against Rommel?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. What did he do when he first took over after they were defeated?
SPEAKER 03 :
I do not remember. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 06 :
Too long ago. He walked in. He saw it. He goes, this unit doesn't look like soldiers. They don't act like soldiers. So why would you expect them to fight like soldiers? And he reinstilled discipline. And that's what I believe Cash and the FBI and Dan Modina are going to do. They're going to instill discipline, mission, stop with all the politics. But my favorite thing was Kash Patel sending all those people out of D.C. last week. But that was last week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but John, let me ask you, and by the way, I applauded that too, but do you worry at all that, well, then it's harder to keep an eye on them when they're far... By the way, 100 million percent I agree with the decision. They needed to get out in the field.
SPEAKER 06 :
I just worry, you know... Think about it. Here's this woke guy getting sent to, oh, we'll just use Cheyenne. Okay. Not the... Well, he's not being sent to be in charge in Cheyenne. He's being sent to work here. And I'm sure the special agent in charge in Cheyenne is not the same as some woke guy in D.C. I'm thinking he's more, you know, down to earth. And a lot of these small towns and small states that are more conservative... These guys are coming in and going to have to deal with a whole new set of rules.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you think Dan Bongino will help in overseeing them? I think he'll be traveling a lot. I really do.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. I think they both will. The other thing is I had a question, and you covered this with Bongino. I heard that you submitted your resume to take for his show.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I'm next in line.
SPEAKER 06 :
You don't have the skill to do 15 hours a week?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. I don't have the skill to do 15 minutes of Dan Bongino.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I'm impressed. You're doing today. You're probably going to do again tomorrow, aren't you? Yes, I am.
SPEAKER 03 :
I'll be back tomorrow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Two days in a row, Andy. You're getting up there.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know, but I'm not going to have Little Meadow here tomorrow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you could borrow her.
SPEAKER 03 :
I just don't know how we're going to do the show without Meadow. It doesn't seem the same anymore.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know what, Andy? I'll take the day off and bring Colt down.
SPEAKER 17 :
How big is Colt? He's a 100-pound Great Pyrenees. Oh, jeez. I can just imagine a Great Pyrenees rampaging around in this little, oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 06 :
I would actually enjoy that. They're very calm dogs. They were livestock guardians, so unless you were a wolf or a coyote or a mountain lion, They pretty much are mellow. I mean, he'd come up and lay his head on your lap.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I guess that's okay. Of course, his head probably weighs 50 pounds. That'd be a lot of weight.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, about 20. Andy, you have a great rest of the day.
SPEAKER 03 :
John, you do the same. Thank you, sir. Oh, my gosh. That's funny.
SPEAKER 08 :
We need to get that dog in the studio.
SPEAKER 03 :
We need to get that dog in the studio, but then Meadow might get eaten. I'm not sure. Yes, she would. She's yawning now.
SPEAKER 08 :
The head weighs more than her. She's going to be a total of five pounds as an adult.
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The best export we have is Common Sense. You're listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 03 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, along with Rachel Main of... KLTT AM670. That's right, KLTT, our sister station.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, Christian Talk, we have some great programming, and I'm sure a lot of the listeners know about Jack Hibbs, he's on our station.
SPEAKER 03 :
The door... leading to your office is literally one foot from the door leading into KLC. So we are definitely sister stations. Hey, before we jump into He Gets Us, let's listen to Jason from Fort Lupton. Jason, what do you have for us? Hello, Jason.
SPEAKER 05 :
Listen, or at least I haven't heard you talk about it yet. The real value of Dan Bongino and Cash Patel is not just that they're 100% aligned, But one is like a scalpel, hash. The other is a hammer. Oh, yeah. Don Gino will take no garbage from anyone. And if you listen, as you said, you listen to him, he's very, very passionate. I mean, he will not let go. He still brings up the January 6th pipe bomber. And he's right. He has a rod up his... for... what has happened at the FBI. And now he's got a platform and the power to do something about something he's been passionate about for five or six years. And he will not take anything from anyone.
SPEAKER 03 :
Jason, let me say a couple things here really quick here. First of all, I hope that Bongino goes after the January 6th pipe bomber because I believe there is a huge story behind that. A huge story. Yeah, because that was used almost certainly as a diversion to draw cops away from the action. And I would love to see them get to the bottom of that. I think there's a very good chance they know who it is. It's probably an inside job. That's what he believes. Next, I want to just quote him right now. Cutesy time is over. What do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Yeah. He will not take anything. It's not a game to him. Like you said, he's giving up millions. And his organization was starting to grow. He had a show. He was bringing on another show. He was going to turn Bongino Inc. into a full-on 24 or at least 12-hour news coverage on Rumble. Right. He's giving up an empire, building something similar to what, I can't think of his name, the morning guy on one of the competitor stations. Glenn Beck? Yeah, Glenn Beck. Hey! Building up something like him or what Ben Shapiro built. Right. He was headed there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I think Bongino's already bigger than Shapiro, but I know what you mean. Look, here's what I see with Bongino and Patel, of course, but I'm going to talk about Bongino. Jason, he wants law and order back. I believe that the Democrats have taken law and order and made it utterly lawless. It is simply they have churned the FBI, you know, DHS. They have churned. um these entities into nothing but you know entities arms of the democrat party okay so basically they've weaponized them and take taken your tax dollars and use them to target all political enemies and he's made very clear he's not going in there to target back he is going in there to take away targeting He is going in there. Now, there are things that look that they did that were very wrong that have to be investigated. There's no way around it. You just mentioned one, the pipe bomber. OK, but he has made it very clear his goal. And I was listening to him this morning, Jason. His goal is to take all bias. out and to turn this into law and order again because when you take law and order and use it as a political weapon for one side the country becomes lawless and he says we need law and order back and for him this isn't a job it's a crusade go ahead i'll give you the last word and to just build on what you're saying he often has a saying that republicans are not the solution to your problem but democrats are the cause of your problem and what what i'm
SPEAKER 05 :
facing off on that. He is not political. He's ideological on the Constitution. The Constitution is the Constitution. Right is wrong on Tuesday. Right is right on Tuesday. It's still right on Wednesday. He does not care if you're left or you're right. If you're breaking the law, if you're weaponizing the system, he will shut you down.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he's basically a law and order Mark Levin or John Rush, actually. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
He would prosecute Donald Trump if Donald Trump crossed the line.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yep. In a heartbeat. He would do it without hesitation. And that's the beauty of it. Jason, thank you so much. You're getting me even more excited about Dan Bongino. I didn't know I could get more excited. You did it. The only thing I'm not excited about is now I can't listen to him every day. I know. I'm so mad about that. I listen to his pod at least four times a week. I walk my dogs to Dan every day. Why does Dan not care about me and you, Jason? Why does he only care about the rest of the country? I mean, we have meant a lot to him. It's very selfish. very heartbreaking it's almost like a divorce i know jason thank you so much sir okay take care okay this is gonna that was just too valuable i had to talk and by the way if anybody else wants to call in talk about dan bongino or trump or anything 303-477-5600 We're going to be talking about He Gets Us, but I can tell it's probably going to have to go into the next hour anyway. So let's just get started. Sound good? Sounds great. Okay. For those who have not seen it, and I think pretty much everybody has, I can't play it because it's just music. It's TV. It's not good for radio. So I got to basically say what it does. All right. What is He Gets Us? It's an ad campaign. It costs $100 million. It is pre-evangelism. It's designed to connect with our culture, showing a Jesus who is all-accepting, never condemning, and offering no absolute truths or standards. Now, that's not being too harsh. That's being honest. Have you seen it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, vaguely. I mean, I haven't really paid much attention, but I'm curious, who is behind He Gets Us? Who are the organizations behind it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Just a bunch of wealthy people. I would have to go into listing them. I think Hobby Lobby.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hobby Lobby, okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which is interesting because Hobby Lobby, I'm really surprised.
SPEAKER 08 :
That they would support that.
SPEAKER 03 :
They would support something like this. He Gets Us, I think, is a horrifying thing. Okay, I think it's as anti-biblical and anti-scriptural as you can get. And for those who don't know, I do have a degree in the ministry. It is kind of my thing. And of course, Rachel runs a Christian news station. Okay. You know what it reminds me of, though? And I'm going to play a little clip here. And this is actually George Carlin. And he's talking in the movie Dogma. And they've decided, the Catholic Church has decided, and Dogma is totally not a Christian movie at all. Okay, it's the opposite. And they've decided to go away from the old crucifix look at Jesus and usher in a new way to look at Jesus. Here we go.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the driving force behind Catholicism WOW, Cardinal Glick.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me skip ahead.
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For example, the crucifix. While it has been a time-honored symbol of our faith, Holy Mother Church has decided to retire this highly recognizable yet wholly depressing image of our Lord crucified. Christ didn't come to earth to give us the willies. He came to help us out. He was a booster. And it's with that take on our Lord in mind that we come up with a new, more inspiring sigil. So it is with great pleasure that I present you with the first of many revamps the Catholicism Wow campaign will unveil over the next year. I give you the Buddy Christ. Buddy Christ.
SPEAKER 08 :
Buddy Christ, oh no. So what's the symbol?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, now just so you know, it's a statue of Jesus winking at you, pointing out, and with a thumbs up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 03 :
And with a big smile, and it's Buddy Christ. And Buddy Christ, to me, is one of the funnier things I've actually seen. This is a pretty funny movie, Dogma was, but it just blew my mind how accurate it was. And what they were doing is actually making fun of what the church has largely become.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're trying to sell Buddy Christ. Right. He gets us as Buddy Christ. OK. Moreover, let me go into it some more. What else does he gets us? It's heavily political. Last year, they showed white men and cops washing feet of all sorts of liberal groups. None in reverse. OK, so you didn't see anybody else in the reverse. And by the way, to say they took foot washing out of context. is an understatement of truly historic proportion i won't even go into it don't have time but they really butchered it this year they use good deeds to define true greatness You know, it would be really great, okay? And it was a shot against MAGA, all right? And what it is is pure left-wing politics, you know, with Christian rhetoric over the top of it. Christianese, right, yeah. Christianese over the top of it. Now, instead of sharing any messages on truth, sin, or repentance, he gets us, spends all its time depicting what they believe to be conservative Christians in a negative light. Those bad pro-lifers, they depict them very negatively politically. They point at us. Oh, yeah. Pastors who preach against homosexuality. Oh, they're terrible. They're preaching the truth, folks. The Bible is against homosexuality. Sorry. It is. OK. And by the way, there are scientific reasons for that, which I won't go into. Don't have time. Rather than point people upward, he gets us points a finger at all the conservative Christians that they don't like and bashes them. And that's what he gets us is really about. You can just see in all the depictions they're doing this on purpose. You know, and they end with a white guy washing the feet at one point of a black gay man and so forth. It's all acceptance for unbelievers, no repentance or rejection of sin. I mean, when does it say, you know what? Don't be gay. That's actually bad for you. Okay. Or don't reject Christ. That's actually bad for you. Here's the amazing thing. They spend $100 million without one single word. And not only in their ads, but on their website. Not one single word saying why Jesus is true.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they don't have the gospel.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a different gospel. Yes. Yeah. They don't have one single word saying why Jesus is actually true.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. You might want to be able to say, you know, if you're doing evangelism, if you're selling a product. You know, let's take it out of the Christian. By the way, if you're an atheist listening to this, this is going to make sense to you in just a moment. OK, it's going to make a lot of sense to you because it's the buddy Christ thing. If you're selling a car, aren't you at least going to be able to try to tell the customer why this car is better than the other ones? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. These these people won't even do that much. OK, he's not even better. All right. They depict all other kinds of religions and they're all the same. Everything is the same. And if I was, as you know, I was raised as an atheist. I was, you know, one of these intellectual atheists. I would be looking at these people and basically saying this. And by the way, I was looking at a lot of the church and saying this. This is actually infecting an awful lot of modern day Christianity. Right. And a lot of people out there right now look at the church and say, it's not for me, it's not for me. Look, I don't blame you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, there's nothing different about it. Go ahead. There's nothing different. And still, how can you make yourself a better person versus the opposite way, which is Christ, when we receive him, he makes us a better person.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. This is a self-improvement program. Let me ask you something. Do you need Jesus for a self-improvement program? No. No. Oh, you don't? Oh, my goodness. We'll get into that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because it's about self. Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
We'll get into that in the next... Christianity is a self-abandonment program, just so you know, folks. But let me... Here's how I would feel. I think this is incredibly insulting to unbelievers. I think this looks at unbelievers and says, you need to be stupid. I'm serious. Because it comes to them and says it doesn't provide one single solitary word showing why it's true. Why Jesus is true. Why any of it's true. Why the Bible is reliable. Anything. It's that he gets you. He relates to you. He connects with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
But that's not their motive if they believe that all religions are the same. Right. Which they do.
SPEAKER 03 :
They basically do. If I were an unbeliever looking at this, I'd be saying this. Let me get this straight. You want me to worship a 2,100-year-old martyr because you're active in my community? I mean, think about that for a moment, how stupid that sounds. You want me to volunteer for a morally restrictive lifestyle because you're nice to me? You want me to choose your faith over others when you can't offer a single word showing your faith to be true? I mean, who came up with this approach? Is this the dumbest thing you've ever heard? I mean, John and I, we talk a lot about sales, you know, just in the business world, sales. Is this the dumbest sales pitch you've ever heard?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, maybe the motive is just to try to make the Christians who do believe in the Bible and believe Jesus is the way feel bad. So it's more of a pointing the finger at the real Christians. Maybe that's the point. She said they insult.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bingo.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's the point.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think you nailed it, Rachel. I think what he gets us, the whole point of he gets us is really to attack the real church. Right. And mock the real church. And pushing a thing called, by the way, pre-evangelism. Now, I know a lot of people will get into this over the course of the show. Because what we're going to take a look at is good deeds here in the next segment. Why do we do them? And we'll look at it at the beginning of the next hour. Because a lot of people, well, they say, well, yeah, but good deeds, they ease people in. They'll get them. You do good deeds and you get people to listen more to the message.
SPEAKER 08 :
I disagree.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. We'll talk about that in the next, you know, we'll talk about that going forward. But they say you basically nice people into Jesus.
SPEAKER 15 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
The moment people hear me say that, they think, well, what do you want to be? Mean? No.
SPEAKER 08 :
Convicting. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell the truth. How about honest? Honest. You've seen me around people. Am I mean? No. I'm nice to everybody. I am. I'm one of these upbeat. You are. Yeah, I am. I like people. Do I care if they're gay, straight, old, young, male, female, black, white? It doesn't make any difference to me, does it?
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I don't. I love all people. Or a puppy. Yeah. Even a little puppy who wants to take over the show and be the star. You know, I don't care. I love all people, but that doesn't mean I love your future. OK, and that doesn't mean I don't believe in what I believe. Here's the thing. If you can't if you can't offer any reasons why. That Jesus is actually true. And take that. Take Jesus aside. How about the Republican Party? If you can't offer any reasons that your party is actually true, but all you can do is attack Democrats. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I think you got the problem with the Democratic Party right now. They don't have a real foundation or argument. They're just attacking their everything that Trump's doing. That's their platform.
SPEAKER 03 :
Their whole product has been hate Trump now for, what, eight, ten, I don't know how many years. And now that Trump is ushered in, they don't have a product. John and I were talking about this a couple weeks ago. The Democrat Party is sitting there without a product. Right now, I believe the church has rendered itself without a product. And it's led by people like He Gets Us. And we'll talk a little bit more about it after the break. Sound good? Up next is Cub Creek Heating and Air. When you need help with your heater, it's that time of year. I almost went air conditioning. When you need help with your heater, beware of coupons with crazy offers. Those are just hooks so they can get in your house and discover all kinds of extra work. Don't do that. Cub Creek has great prices, and they don't upsell you to death. Give them a call, 303-656-5467.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, Andy Pate filling in for John Rush, along with Rachel Main of... AM670KLTT. That's right. Okay, now, really quick here, just want to take a couple minutes, and I want to ask you a couple questions, because here's the big thing. People say... But they're talking about doing good deeds. They're talking about doing good things. Is it bad to give a hug to a gay person? No. In fact, is it bad to feed somebody? No. Look, good deeds are good. That's why we call them good. I'm not anti-good deeds, but the question is twofold. First of all, what should come first, message or deeds? And secondly, what is the purpose of good deeds? We'll talk about that in the next hour. We have to keep something in mind. Why were we left here on this planet? And you wonder, what do you mean? Well, we're born again Christians, right? We have eternity with Christ, right? He could right now zap us away to heaven and remove all memory of us. He doesn't have to leave us here. Okay, no more Andy, no more Rachel, no more Charlie, no more whatever. And the world goes on. Why did he leave us here? Was it to fix the world? No. Okay. Reverse the curse? No.
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No.
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Okay. Why are we left here? We've got to keep in mind this world is aging and dying just like we are. Right. He left us here for one reason. See, all people deserve to live eternity without him, including you and me.
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Right.
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We do. He left us here to be a second chance for everyone around us, to offer them the message. So the question is, what do we offer them first? We only have two things to offer, our message and our deeds, the things we do, what we say and what we do. It's all we have to offer. He gets us, says, lead with what you do. Lead with deeds first evangelism. That's what it says. So let me ask you something. How many religions can offer the truth of the gospel?
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Only one.
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Right. OK. How many can offer good deeds? All. All. Oh, OK. So if we lead with good deeds, do we offer one way, one truth and one life? Do we look like the narrow gate or the wide gate? Right. Well, I mean, do we look like all the other religions or do we still look like Christianity if we lead with what they can all offer? Go.
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Exactly. Well, that's the thing. It's very apparent that they don't know what the gospel is because Jesus preached that exact opposite, that nobody is good, no, not one.
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Right.
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I'm the only one, God, who is good. And on your behalf, no, not one of you who is good, I will die for your sins.
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We're all sinning, falling short of the glory of God, Romans 3, 23. Yeah, go.
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So the whole point is that nobody deserves... Heaven, only Christ is worthy. No one's like God. Only one is like God.
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Okay, so really quick here. We got 30 seconds. And we got next hour, okay? Jesus is the narrow way. Right. Okay, he said, I am the truth, the way, the life. No one comes to the Father but through me. It's called absolutism.
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Right.
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And he says, enter through the narrow gate for life. Enter through the wide gate, which is many paths, many ideas, right?
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Wide is the path.
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And what does that lead to? Destruction. Right. Okay. The wide gate leads to destruction. So if we come out and lead with deeds first and truth either second or never, because let's face it, they never defend truth, right? If we do that, where are we leading them?
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Well, to hell, to the wide path.
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Yeah, we're leading them to destruction. We're certainly leading them not to be with God, and that is a very, very big mistake. We're going to talk about more of this because it's so great to have you here.
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Well, I love being here. I love talking.
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Yeah, it's such a great opportunity. Well, that's it for our number one, folks, and our number two. We're going to talk some more about this. We're also going to talk about education reform in America, and we're going to talk to Richard Rush about some sports. That's going to be great. Until then, keep it right here on Rush to Reason, KLC 560.
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Average Guys.
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Ordinary Average Guys.
Join Andy Pate as he fills in for John Rush on this engaging episode of 'Rush to Reason.' We explore the importance of facing life’s fears head-on and the misconceptions that surround economic equality and success. Kurt Rogers from Affordable Interest Mortgage offers his insights into current trends in housing and financial markets, providing listeners with valuable advice on navigating the economic landscape in uncertain times.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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With your host, John Rush.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did.
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Get a job first. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush.
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Filling in is Andy Pate, party of choice.
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And welcome to our number three here on Rush to Reason, KLZ 560. I'm Andy Pate filling in for John Rush on the line right now. We now have the Monday Mortgage Minute with Kurt Rogers of Affordable Interest Mortgage.
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Kurt, what do you have for us this week? Not a whole lot. Don't say that too fast. The Monday Mortgage Minute, you'll kind of end yourself in trouble. It is hard. It is hard. Monday Mortgage Minute. Monday Mortgage. I don't know who thought of that.
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Anyhow, well, right now I'm actually thinking things and what I'm starting to see are going to improve over the next 60 days. There were people who are going to start to feel pretty good about it. How so? I think what you're going to start to see is the economy is going to slow a little. Unemployment is going to increase, and that's just standard because of all the people being let go that are going to file unemployment claims. And when that happens, even with the tariffs, the tariffs I do not figure are going to make the prices of the homes go up. So it's not going to affect them. It's going to affect people being able to afford it because inflation, according to some people, is going to go up, which I disagree with. I think it's going to stay steady and continue to go down. You're going to see a report that comes out on Friday that shows it's gone down about a quarter of a point. And those are big numbers at this time with where they are. I agree. And that's all going to start to indicate with inflation, or not inflation, but unemployment going up, you're going to start to see the feds coming back in and going, okay, maybe we need to change the rates.
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You know, a quick question here, Kurt, because you've got a combination of two things. First of all, you have a lot of people being let go from the government. These are big paying jobs, right? And also, you're going to have a lot of illegal immigrants who are being deported, being removed from the house buying chain. How is that going to affect housing?
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Well, there's not enough homes out there, so the demand is far exceeding the supply. That's why homes, the numbers just came out, they averaged for 2024 at 4.86% appreciation. Now, many people will tell you they depreciated. They didn't. They still went up, and they're going to continue because there's not enough of them. Even if you take some of the population out of being able to buy, the demand is still going to be there, and it's going to continue to increase. I personally Do I think rates are going to go down below six before the end of the year? No. But do I think they're going to start to go down a little at a time? Yes. And now is a good time to kind of be prepared either to refinance when they get to the rate you want or to purchase. There's some programs I'm coming out with in about a week that I'm going to talk about that is just extremely helpful if you want to buy a home. They're designed if you want to buy a home.
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All right, good advice. Hey, tomorrow, Haystack Help, Tuesday, noon to 1. What do you got for us tomorrow?
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Awesome. All right, Kurt, thank you so much. And John will be back next Monday, so say hi to him for me, will you? I will do that. You take care. Stay warm. You take care, sir. I will do so. And up next, of course, is Affordable Interest Mortgage with Kurt Rogers. If you need a loan, call Kurt at 720-895-0500 or you can go to AIMortgage.net.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. On the line right now, we've got Jersey Joe. Joe, how you doing? That was better. Are you there? I'm here. I'm here. Can you hear me? Now I can hear you. Yes. Go. I'm doing good. How's my Goomba doing? I'm doing all right, man.
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Good. Glad to hear it. Glad to hear it. What do you got this week? I got all sorts of stuff, but let's start off with a little humor. I'd like you to, this is from last week. This is our former vice president of the United States, And this is the woman who came within a few million votes of being our next president. And this was her last week talking about vacuums. And just think about this person could be our president right now. Can we play this clip of Kamala from last week? Here we go.
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We see things that are being taken. But also let's see it as, you know, nature pours a vacuum. So where there's a vacancy, then let's fill it. Right? And let's know that the reality is that the progress of our nation has always been about the expansion of rights, not the restriction of rights. We're seeing a U-turn right now. But we have to keep fighting. For those rights to be maintained, which means we have to be vigilant. And it's just the nature of it. And it doesn't mean we don't see the beauty in everything. Right? These things all coexist. But I believe we fight for something, not against something.
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And that's our optimism, right?
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You know, Joe, for the rest of the show, no matter what you say, I'm just going to go, mm-hmm.
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Yeah, you know, with the crowd, mm, yeah, oh, yeah. Now, by the way, here's a question. Do you think she was sober when she gave that little speech? Jeez, who could tell? No. Didn't seem it, but. I didn't see it, but just, folks, that person could be the president of the United States right now if it wasn't for her. four or five million votes that could be the president united states oh i know i mean donald trump dodged a literal bullet and we dodged a um figurative one uh yes it and uh and thank you know thank goodness for uh whether it be fate or god or whatever that he survived both of those attempts um But yes, we are so lucky that we have Donald Trump as our president today.
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Joe, just a second. Before you even get into your stuff, and maybe if you want to tell me, Andy, let's table that for a little later. We can do that. But I got to ask you, the Pope. Okay. You're not Catholic, are you? Yes, I am. Oh, you are Catholic. Oh, good. That's way better. I was hoping you would be. I'm not. But I have never heard a Pope be so... Okay, create so many people, Catholics not happy with him. I've never heard so many Catholics complain about a pope. And now, of course, he is, you know, very ill. And, you know, we're certainly praying for him. We certainly hope he's going to bounce back, but perhaps he won't. Okay, I don't know. But let me ask you this. Does the Catholic Church, if this were to be the end for him, do they make the same mistake again? Do they choose another hard left Marxist to be Pope again after all the firestorm? Or do they go back to a more conservative direction? What do they do?
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You know, Andy, I don't know. Unfortunately, I think there's the same people that helped elect him last time are still there. So I think. uh... they're still going to lean in that direction
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Okay, last question. How does that affect the American Catholic Church? Because an awful lot of American Catholics love Donald Trump, okay? And because of that, they're very disenchanted with their leader. And I understand. Look, there's a difference between him speaking ex-cathedra and him just speaking politically. I understand that. I get that. I don't think that he is giving God's politics to people. I get that. He's just a person with his political view. And then when he speaks ex-cathedra, then that's meaningful to the church. But would that be hard on the American Catholic Church if they were to choose another one like this?
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I think it would, Andy. As you're probably well aware, the Catholic Church has had declining church attendance for several decades now. And by the church attendance among young people is down in like the teens. You know, it's so, so small. And I think if they continue on that route, they're going to continue that downward trend. I think if they had a conservative hope that they might either stall or reverse that trend, because I think so many people, including myself, have become disenchanted with the Catholic Church. So, again, I think it'll be a continued steady downhill slide. if they elect another pope like this one, you know, if and when he passes. That's just my personal opinion. Okay. Anyway, what do you got for us? Well, by the way, since you asked me if I was Catholic, here's a little trivia for your listeners. Go ahead. You know the difference between somebody whose name ends in S-K-I and somebody whose name ends in S-K-Y? What is it? If your name ends in S-K-I, you are typically a Polish Catholic. And if your name ends in S-K-Y, you are typically a Russian Jew. So there's your little name trivia for the day.
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I did not know that. What about Zelensky? You are a Ukrainian dictator?
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And you're Jewish. And you're Jewish. Anyway, where do we start here? Let's talk about layoffs. Yeah. You know, everybody's, oh, it's cruel, these indiscriminate layoffs. Well, in the past week, Jeff Bezos of Blue Origins, who owns Blue Origins, the space launching company, He laid off 1,400 people, and today it was announced that Starbucks is laying off 1,000 people. Media doesn't seem to care when private industry lays off thousands of people. Only when it's Donald Trump laying off government employees.
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Yeah, I know. It blows my mind, too, because they're not productive. Look, we have to keep in mind, Biden dramatically upped the hiring, didn't he? He did.
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He did. Hiring and spending. And the two go hand in hand. If you're going to spend more money, you need people. And here's a staggering number. I may have mentioned this last week. You know, the Trump tax plan, which, by the way, people say, well, he cut our taxes. No, he cut the tax rates. The tax revenues have continued to soar. By the way, Reagan did the same thing. Reagan cut tax rates by 40%. And in the six years following his tax rate cuts, Tax revenue soared by 75%. Well, the same thing has happened with the Trump tax rate cuts. In the past seven years, they went into effect in January 1, 2018. In the past seven years, tax rates have steadily grown. They continue to generate new all-time record highs. They're up 46% since 2017. And to put this in perspective, in 2017, which was the last year of the old Obama tax plan, Tax revenues were barely creeping along at barely increasing just a little bit over 3% per year. It was less than 3.2% a year. And here we have Trump has, with his tax rate cuts, have managed to get a sustained rate of growth in tax revenues of almost 6.5% per year.
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Yeah, I don't understand why leftists are complaining about the Trump rate cuts because those rate cuts increased the disparity between what the rich and the poor are paying. It made the rich pay a higher percentage, okay? Because as a percentage of the whole of what they paid, they got a much lower tax cut across the board than the middle and lower levels.
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Well, actually, some of the, by the way, the top 1%, The only thing that happened there, the top rate was 39.6%, and he cut it by 2.6 percentage points down to 37. It was a tiny, tiny 2.6% drop in the top tax rate, and even that tiny top rate cut was partially, in some cases, completely offset by the new $10,000 cap on itemized deductions for state and local taxes, which are state income taxes and property taxes. And if you're somebody that owns six houses or you own a $14 million mansion. Yeah, it's nothing. It's nothing. So that tiny 2.6% drop in your top tax rate was partially, in some cases, completely offset by that new cap on itemized deductions. Meanwhile, on the bottom end of the scale, many on the bottom end of the scale saw a 30, 40, 50, and in some cases even 100% reduction in their total federal income tax. And here's a statistic for you. Back when these went into effect, the median U.S. household income was like $62,700. And under the Trump tax plan, that family's tax rate went from around $2,000 a year to they now pay less than zero. Right. They get a net tax. So they had their taxes reduced by more than 100%. Now, since they were only paying $2,000 to start with, It's not a big number in terms of measured in dollars, but in percentage terms, the bottom 50%, actually the bottom 75%, got huge reduction in tax rates.
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And this is why I was angry at Trump. Look, I'm not rich. I'm not in those high echelons. So I'm not talking about me or what benefits me at all, Joe. It did benefit me, and I don't like it. I don't want to benefit that much. It angered me because the wealthy... who create so many of the jobs and the investment and drive so much of the industry. As you said, they only got 2.6 shaved off of 39.6. What is that, about 7% off their total? And then you said that was even offset down lower. And then let's say somebody were, I'm using round figures here, okay, because I don't want to look at all the brackets, but let's say somebody before the Trump tax cuts was paying 20%, okay? and they got that cut to 15, that's a 25% cut in their rates, whereas the rich get, what, a 7%. And this is what people don't seem to understand. The people at the lower echelons had so much cut that when you took out deductions, they weren't paying anything. And these people are actually saying that Trump did tax cuts for the wealthy. If there's anything that the Schumers and Pelosi's and AOC's say that really infuriates me, And Bernie's is that it's a lie. It is a numerical lie. It's not just a lie where I look at it and say, oh, gee, you're lying. There was no Russian collusion. No, no, no, no. This is straight numbers. They're flat out lying.
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I think my quote of the week last week, the week before, right now, if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes accepted as fact. Right. And that's where we are. And by the way, just to go back one more statistic, you talk about how much the rich are paying. The top 1%, and this is based on data published by Biden's IRS. This is from last September. This is not Trump's. This is Biden's IRS last September. The top 1% now pay more in income taxes than the entire bottom 90% combined. And the percentage of all income taxes being paid by that top 1% is also at a new all-time record high. They're paying 46%. of every income tax dollar paid in this country despite that tiny rate cut.
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Yeah, but you've got to keep in mind, you always hear the leftists who say, well, that's because they're making that much more money. No, they're not making that much more money. They're paying 46% of the taxes. What percent of the wealth are they making? Well, the income, they account for 22% of the income. Right, so they are paying over twice their share. All these people who say you need to pay your fair share, really? That 1% is hauling in 22% of the income and paying 46% of the taxes. Wrong. Not fair share.
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By the way, how did you know that I would know what percent of the income they have?
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Well, you always talk about this. We've gone back and forth on this for years. But you've known for years that there's really nothing that angers me more than this, is there?
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No, it's a big lie. And by the way, as you know, I spend 30 minutes every morning on these liberal websites and people are, well, the rich need to pay their fair share. And I can't tell you how many times I've asked this question over and over because I've quoted this statistic. You know, the top 1% are paying more than the bottom 90% combined. And by the way, the top 10% are paying less. 76% of all the income taxes in this country. And I ask the simple question, if that is not already their fair share, then what percentage would be? Do you know in two years I have yet to get an answer, a straight answer to that simple question? Nobody can answer the question in numeric figures, you know, what would that fair... If those figures aren't their fair share, then what would be? Nobody can answer that.
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You know, one of these days, maybe tomorrow, because I know you've got other stuff prepped for today, I would like to hear just some of your projections, what you think we're going to save from deporting so many illegal aliens. Because all these people who say they're the backbone of our economy, no, they're not. They cost a lot.
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I actually did a little analysis because somebody said, well, you know, they pay all this money for Social Security and they don't qualify for Venezuela. I calculated the annual cost to society. I'm talking medical. I'm talking education for the kids. Yeah, all of it. And by the way, I don't know if you know, Denver General is running an enormous deficit because Denver is a sanctuary city. And virtually every illegal alien and their children in the city of Denver, when they need, they don't have doctors, they don't go to general practice, they go to Denver Medical. And there are tens of millions of dollars of deficit
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treating uninsured uh illegal aliens in the city of denver yeah yeah that's money that's money that's not going to cops that's money that's not going to firemen that's money that's not going to nurses that's money that's not going to an awful lot of people joe and it really infuriates me you know they're starting to wake up in chicago you can see people starting to wake up because it got so out of hand i don't know if it ever will in denver we are so stupid i know uh uh
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You know, Denver may be too far gone, and so is Boulder for that matter.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush on the line. We got Jersey Joe. Joe, what do you got for me?
SPEAKER 06 :
I wanted to get back to the government cuts. And by the way, it was interesting. Federal judge last week ruled that Trump had every right to cut those USAID employees. So that's a win. Yes. There's a lot on the left saying Trump's cutting too deep. He's cutting too fast. You know, he needs to slow down. He needs to use a scaffold on a chain. So I know how many people know who Kevin O'Leary is. He's he's on Shark Tank. They call him Mr. Wonderful. You know, he's a billionaire investor, real hard nose guy. And Kevin O'Leary was on CNN last week talking. Somebody asked him about, do you think Trump is cutting, you know, too deep, too quick? And here was Kevin O'Leary's reaction to the question.
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I think the issue is they're not whacking enough. There's this concept in private equity when you get a bankrupt company and you go in there, you cut 20% more than your initial read. And then you find like a pool of mercury, the organization gels back together again. Always cut deeper, harder when there's fat and waste. The FAA, it's not the people. The code is cobalt. It's from the 60s. It needs CapEx put into it for the technology to be upgraded to make it safer. Fat like a chicken. All of these agencies are like big, fat chickens dripping over barbecues of fat. This is the best barbecue I've ever seen, but I don't think it's happening fast enough. They're not cutting enough. Keep slashing. Keep hacking while you have a 24-month mandate before the midterms. Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. More. More cutting. Believe me, it's going to work out just great.
SPEAKER 12 :
Everybody should be happy about this.
SPEAKER 18 :
Even people with their nuclear codes? Cut them too? Cut everything. Because if you don't see what they're doing and they can't show you that they're adding value, you're whack. I love it. I just love it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Go ahead, Joe. COBOL is an ancient, when I say ancient, it's a 40-year-old software programming language. And that's what the FAA computers are running on COBOL. And when he talks about CapEx, he's talking capital expenditures, capital investment, meaning we need to spend money to upgrade these ancient systems. Now, you say, well, if you're spending money, how is that saving money? Well, when you have ancient systems, and I've dealt with this throughout my career, when you have ancient systems, you compensate for the weaknesses in those systems with people. You know, they wind up, you know, taking stuff out of one system and manually inputting into another. So you can say, well, if we're going to spend CapEx to upgrade, you upgrade to integrate and streamline these systems. And when you do that, a lot of the cost goes away. And so that's what he's talking about, getting rid of programs written in a 40-year-old programming language and spending money to update and streamline to make things run faster and more efficiently. So that was his reference to Cogol and CapEx.
SPEAKER 11 :
Joe, really quick here. Do you think the Democrats are painting themselves into a corner here? And what I mean is this. If you're going to tell everybody we're going to be doomed, doomed, doomed, doomed, doomed without all these positions, and then we cut all these positions, I'm not saying there won't now and then be something that we miss out on. Don't get me wrong, because we're not using a scalpel. But if we cut all these positions... And then people feel very little impact in their lives. What does that do to the Democrats?
SPEAKER 06 :
It makes all of this wailing and gnashing of teeth. It shows how out of touch with reality they were. And I think that's exactly what's going to guess. So are there going to be the occasional hiccups and slips? And are the Democrats going to make, you know, huge MSNBC and CNN going to make front page news out of that? Yeah, absolutely. But I think it's going to be few and far between. I think the good is going to far outweigh the bad. You know, right now we're borrowing 43 cents of every dollar we spend. Even Jerome Powell, head of the Federal Reserve, who's no friend of Trump, two weeks ago in testimony before Congress, even Jerome Powell said the path we are on is unsustainable. And again, Jerome Powell is no friend of Trump, but even he told Congress we can't keep doing what we're doing. We have to stop it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. OK, what else you got?
SPEAKER 06 :
Let's talk about Oh, the big hubbub about the six-person Doge team. By the way, the six-person Doge team is spread out, and one of them was over at the IRS, and the left was going ballistic over one of those Doge people being able to look at IRS data. Well, it turns out during the Biden administration, the Biden administration had given 991 people who were not IRS employees access to the same data, and of those 991, 226 weren't even government employees. They were independent contractors. So the left is getting all bent out of shape about one MIT graduate being able to look. But it's called read-only. When you have a computer system, there's a different level of access. You can have read-only where you can look at the data, but you can't edit it, alter it, or delete it. And all they have is read-only data. And yet the Biden administration had 991 non-IRS people, including 226 outside independent contractors, Looking at the same data, left didn't seem to be the least bit concerned about those 991 people when it was Biden saying, okay, you can look at this data.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, there's a problem, though. People don't hear that. Of course. I mean, you know, it just drives me absolutely crazy here, Joe, because you're right. What they are doing is they are complaining that Trump is jaywalking, you know, when they were blowing up buildings. I mean, by comparison, you know what I mean? It's just crazy. Here they had so many people with so much access and who are so intrusive into our lives with government information and with our private information. And my gosh, think about what they did with COVID. They did all of that. And now they're concerned that one guy has access read only to our private information.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep. And by the way, the reason that the, what I call my podcast, I call it the situation with Jersey Joe. It's news in perspective. You won't hear in TV because most of what we're going to talk about on TV is If you do a Google search, you won't find ABC, CBS or CNN reporting any of what we're going to talk about tonight. Right. Some of this stuff should have been front page headline news. And it isn't. They just they just. Oh, here's the I think we talked about this last week. You know, the Biden administration was averaging seven thousand border encounters a day during the fourth quarter of last year. And last week we said last Sunday that number had dropped to two hundred and twenty nine. That should have been, had Biden done that, it would have been front page news. It was a virtual news blackout by the mainstream media.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, and I'd like to correct some of the information that the Biden administration, don't worry, it's real quick, that they keep putting, that their sycophants keep putting out and saying, well, we deported this many people. Yeah, Trump's deporting more, but we deported a fair number of people. I got news for you. You want to know how many people Biden's team deported?
SPEAKER 09 :
Zero.
SPEAKER 11 :
Zero. Because they all came back, Joe. What good is deporting somebody when you have a wide open border and they just come back in?
SPEAKER 06 :
You're not deporting anyone. Some of these people that have been arrested for murdering and assaulting people. You know, you read where they were deporting three pre-assigned, prior times, you know, multiple prior deportations, and yet they keep coming back.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. Now, when they leave, you can say, well, the numbers aren't going as fast as they want. And I understand Trump, you know, they've reassigned one of their people because they want to see the numbers get faster. That's great. It's probably a good thing. But, Joe, all the people who are leaving are staying out. That's what people don't seem to understand. That's the big difference.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, because they've been told if you come back, we're going to throw you in jail. And if you do come back, you'll never be allowed to enter the United States again. Even on a visa, you can never apply. So it's put the fear of God into them. I agree. So, by the way, let's talk about some more waste. Here's Senator Rand Paul. We all know who Senator Rand Paul is. Now, I don't know if most people know this, but we're $37 trillion in debt. And a lot of foreign governments buy our government IOUs when they've got spare cash. so that China owns about 5% of our U.S. national debt. They own a couple of trillion of U.S. debt. And here's what Senator Rand Paul found, and nobody really cared about it. So this is from his tweet. Senator Rand Paul, speaking of which, buried in the foreign aid reports last year, I discovered something. We give foreign aid to China. So our government is so dumb, it is literally borrowing money from China... only to give it back to them while we are paying interest on the money they borrow, on the money we borrow from them.
SPEAKER 11 :
How stupid is that? That is so spectacularly dumb.
SPEAKER 06 :
Spectacularly dumb.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, when they're holding our debt. And by the way, why would anybody think that China needs aid? I mean, just think about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
They don't need aid. They don't. And if they need it, let somebody else give it to them. We don't have it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Why was all this? You know, we talk about the fact that we had all this money going through actually multiple departments to the Wuhan lab, right? Right. We had multiple, not just NIH. We had multiple departments sending money to the Wuhan lab. Here's my question. Why does a Chinese lab, even if it's not producing COVID like it did, why does a Chinese lab need our money? Are you telling me the Chinese have no money to fund a lab?
SPEAKER 06 :
Of course they do. Of course they do. How ludicrous is it that they don't have money? Let's talk about some more government waste. One of the things that Doge found is that they found $20 billion in parked in commercial bank checking account. Now, in theory, all of our money is supposed to be in the treasury. And if you want to spend money, you issue a contract to somebody and they send a bill in and then you approve the bill and you send it to the treasury for payment. Well, Biden administration parked $20 billion.
SPEAKER 11 :
Was this through the EPA?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, the EPA. And of that $20 billion, which by the way, was parked in a, and by once it's in a bank account somewhere, It's not there to be audited, whatever. But those discovered of that 20 billion, 2 billion went to a, and this is from the Environmental Protection Agency. So in 2023, Stacey Abrams, the failed governor, you know, she ran for the governor of Georgia, failed. She started a nonprofit, had nothing to do with, you know, environmental protection agency. And the Biden administration gave her nonprofit a $2 billion grant. Now, you know how much money they had raised prior to receiving that grant? How much?
SPEAKER 1 :
$100.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so they had already gotten a good start. Right. So of all the organizations, you know, if you're the EPA and you want to help fight climate change, there's a lot of big organizations out there that are well-established. You know, they've got professionals and engineers on staff and whatnot. Stacey Abrams just had herself and a couple of community organizers. And the Biden administration said, yeah, we think this organization deserves a $2 billion, what would it be, $2 billion grant from the EPA to help fight climate change. And, of course, you know, the first thing that happens when they get that type of money, the first people they pay? Them? Themselves. Yeah. Stacey Abrams sets herself up as the CEO of this newly formed nonprofit, $400,000 a year. you know, is her salary as a CEO. Doing nothing. Doing nothing. And their organization has zero expertise in terms of, you know, fossil fuels, CO2 emissions.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look, Joe, the bottom line is this. The American taxpayer has been funding one of the two political parties.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep. Period. Period. And we can all guess which political party that was, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Andy Pate filling in for John Rush. And online we got Jersey JoJo. Hang on one moment. I need to say happy birthday to the most beautiful woman on planet Earth. That is my blushing bride, Cori. It's a very exciting day. She is finally old enough for us to be married legally. So this is going to be... Yeah, we got to come out from the shadows and, you know, no longer living in legal sin. So that's wonderful.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, happy birthday, Corey. All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's wonderful. Okay, go ahead, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right, my quote of the week. I don't know if you know the Russian novelist and journalist Dostoevsky. He died about 150 years ago. Here's this from 150 years ago. And it's so true. And talk about how true it is today. And here is a quote from 150 years ago. He said, and of course, this is translated from the original Russian. He said, tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles. Is that where we are today? Wow, that was prophetic. Let me read that again. Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles. I mean, how many people get banned? You know, we're getting banned from these social media sites because they dare question some of the DEI things and the transgender stuff. Well, look at all the people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look at all the protests over DEI. Over DEI. My gosh, it's crazy. It's like, folks, you do realize it's bigotry. You are protesting the fact that we are no longer funding bigotry. I mean, come on.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it reversed discrimination. By the way, talking about funding, here's some more things Doge is uncovering. Now, you remember the $5.7 trillion in 2020 the Democrats proposed and passed with veto-proof majorities, three separate bills. We had the stimulus, the $1,400 stimulus check. We had the federal supplement to unemployment. And we had all these COVID funds. We were literally shoveling money to these states and municipalities. Well, Doge found that the Santa Ana School District, Consolidated School District, took $393,000 of their COVID money, COVID relief funds. You know what they spent $393,000 of their COVID relief money on? On what? They decided to rent the Los Angeles Angels baseball stadium for their high school graduation. Unreal. I mean, come on. You rent an entire baseball stadium for more than a quarter of a billion dollars. I'm sorry, for a quarter of a million dollars for a high school graduation.
SPEAKER 11 :
These people were living so high on the hog off our tax dollars. I'm just hoping that more and more American people understand. Let me ask you this, Joe. Because this is being done through Elon Musk, do you believe he will ultimately get the word out to where not just the right-wing media hears about it, but it gets out to more Americans?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, and it is getting out. Obviously, he's got his huge platform with X, and because he is who he is, the media does cover him, not always flatteringly, but they are covering him. So the word is getting out. So I see that every day. Now, the mainstream media is still dragging their feet and trying not to cover it, but it's getting out. It absolutely is getting out. Hey, I know we're running out of time. Just a couple of more quick ones. Doge found... you know, they've been trying to audit, you know, who, where are we spending our money? Who are we paying? What are we buying? And when you're paying, and we talked about how all these payment requests were going into treasury with no vendor code, no, no commodity code, no explanation. We talked about that last week, right? Yeah. It was simply, you know, please approve this invoice for boom, boom, boom. It's through ABC Inc. And nobody knew what ABC Inc was, what we got from ABC. It was just, you know, a payment request. Right. Well, Doge found that floating around in the United States, there are 4.6 million government credit cards generating 90 million transactions a year. And they're sending these credit card bills into the Treasury for payment every month. So if you send in a $30,000 credit card bill, the Treasury issues a check to Capital One When you try to order that, can you see what was bought? Because no, because you don't know what that $20,000 worth of stuff was. What did we buy? Who did we buy it from? Why did we buy it? All you have is please pay Capital One Visa $20,000 this month. So that's another way we're burying all sorts of payments. that in, in a, in a manner to prevent them from being audited.
SPEAKER 11 :
So how much, how much trouble do you think it's been for all these investigators to go into these departments where the Democrats had to be burning, slashing, shredding all the information they possibly could over the last couple of months?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I don't know. I suspect there's been, well, and I did read where they, they have found some attempts to, to bury some of this stuff, you know, destroy some of the paper records. Um, But they've been able to go back and resurrect some of these things. You can go back to the credit card companies and say, I want to see the detailed statement for this credit card charge for the month of July of 23. They can do that. But it makes it so, so difficult. We're talking 90 million credit card transactions a year. And that's almost impossible to audit. And when I talk about audit, when you have treasury checks, You can do a rank order. You can say, okay, list them by biggest dollar amount, number of checks issued. You can do all sorts of search. And then when you do your audit, you do pinpoints. You can say, let's start with the guy, the top 10 suppliers. What did we buy from these top 10 suppliers? Why did we buy it? Was there a contract, et cetera? When it's buried in 4.6 million credit card statements, you can't do that. You cannot audit 4.6 million credit card statements every month.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can't find those needles. The haystack's too big.
SPEAKER 06 :
Haystack is too big. So that's another thing that has to be clamped down on is the 4.6 million credit cards floating around out there. What have we got? No time left?
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm going to find one and fill my tank. You've got a minute. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Death of the bullet train. Trump just pulled the plug on the California bullet train. Yes. Which, now, if Newsom wants to keep funding this fiasco, which, by the way, was supposed to cost $16 billion to be completed in 2013, the new completion date is 2100. And the cost has gone from $16 billion to $100 billion. And there are no trains, no tracks running. So he's pulled the plug on that. So it's going to be interesting to see if the Newsom is going to go ahead with the California bullet train project, which, by the way, is supposed to be a straight shot from L.A. to San Francisco. He's got to kill it.
SPEAKER 11 :
He has to.
SPEAKER 06 :
If he doesn't have federal funds, he has to. He has to. And I think he's been looking for it. I think he knows this thing has become a boondoggle. And I think he's been looking for a way out. And I think this is his way out. Because this thing has become an albatross. It's going to sink the government of California. They can't afford it. If they ever get it running, it's a fiasco. By the way, it no longer goes L.A. to San Francisco. It goes all the way out through Fresno and out through the valley towns. Well, in theory. What was supposed to be a 90-minute train ride would now be a four-hour train ride. Because what's the sense of having a 150-mile-an-hour train... If you have to stop every 30 miles, you can't get up to speed before you have to start braking. If the distance between stops is 30 miles, you can't get the train up to 150 miles before you have to slow it down. So the 90-minute ride from L.A. to San Francisco is now four hours. And who would ride a four-hour train ride between L.A. and San Francisco when you can do it in 45 minutes on a plane?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, apparently a lot of government workers would have time to do that. I'm just saying, you know, they apparently had a lot of time on their hands, and I'm glad that they are going to be coming back to the office or not coming back at all. Joe, you're going to be back tomorrow at 5, correct? Correct. I'll talk to you same time, same place tomorrow night. Same bad time, same bad channel. We'll see you then, sir. All right. Take care, Andy. Bye-bye. Folks, that's it for today. Our number one replay is next. And Tanner Coleman joins me tomorrow. Tanner Coleman, man, that should be fun. Until then, drive safe, God bless, and thanks for joining us at Rush to Reason, KLZ 560.
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And it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, childhood, or their lives via force. And we know that force can be a weapon, but we're seeing it with policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation. and fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum's agenda, the globalist elite's agenda. The United Nations is then carrying the water for all that. This Colorado state legislature is just implementing all of that stuff as well, and it's under the approval of the governor. Even though the governor is trying to make himself look libertarian, He's anything but. He knows what's happening here in Colorado. It's because he approves it, because his boards, his commissions, he controls the legislature. All of this terrible stuff that's happening in Colorado can go right to his feet. And we can see taking, again, people's property. If you can't control your property, you don't own your property. And so we see that happen with land use codes and zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on and on. And we've got to roll that back. Yesterday, when Jeffrey Tucker was on the line on the show, he's with the Brownstone Institute, writes for the Epoch Times. I said to him, I believe that we are in the third founding of our country. And obviously the third, the first founding was the Revolutionary War. For liberty. But then the next question was about liberty as well. Could one man own another as property? And he can't. We can't. You can't have this vision of the declaration that all men are created equal with rights from God of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and have one man be the property of another. But we fast forward it to now. And in a way, we're all the property of this big government because a lot of what we work to earn is taken from us via sales tax at the local level, the county level, state level. And so we're in this third founding and it's an ideological founding. And that's why engaging in this battle of ideas every day and getting our brain around these issues is, is so important. So we're in a historic time. When I'm out and about and I see young people like Joe and families, people with little kids, that's why we fight. We fight in this ideological battle because something good has been given to us, and we must do everything that we can to pass it on to the next generation. And so that's why we do this show every year. Every Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m. The first hour, if you're not an early morning person or if you miss part of it, it will rebroadcast the first hour in the 1 to 2 hour. 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Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today so that you can impress your friends and family at your expanding vocabulary. The word was the quote of the day is John Locke. He was born in 1632. He died in 1704. He was an English philosopher and physician widely regarded as one of the most influential of the Enlightenment thinkers and commonly known as the father of liberalism. Now, mentioning liberalism, words are so important. And what we've seen is co-opting of words. So the radical activists, again, progressives, in a way, progress seems like a good thing, but we want to make sure we're progressing to good things. The progressivism of today is trying to progress us to socialism and communism. And everyday people do not thrive and prosper or sometimes even live under that. So they had co-opted the word liberal. or liberalism uh when many times those that were co-opting it was pushing us towards that communism and socialism so it's important that we reclaim these words so john locke was known as the father of liberalism he's considered one of the first of the british empiricists he followed the traditions of francis bacon he's in important He's known regarding social contract theory. His work greatly affected the development of epistemology and political philosophy, and his writings influenced Voltaire and Rousseau and many Scottish Enlightenment thinkers as well as the American revolutionaries. His contributions to classic republicanism and liberal theory are reflected in the United States Declaration of Independence. And yesterday we were talking about this voting law that is being and let me get the exact number because we're really going to have to watch this. And this is a bill that's been sponsored by Stephen Woodrow, who is really one of the most extreme down at the state legislature. And this bill, and I've really got to get my teeth into it. After I get the email out for cut today, I did not get to that yesterday with everything that was going on. And this bill number... is bill number 1225. And my friends, I would really recommend that you sit down and take a look at it as well, because this is really going to try to quiet our voices as far as at the voting box. And anyway, I thought I was thinking about this, and this is what John Locke said. He said that I have no reason to suppose that he, who would take away my liberty, would not, when he had me in his power, would take away everything else. And that's why we here in Colorado, we've got to reclaim Colorado. And we really are in the fight of our lives on that. So the next thing, the bill for today is Senate Bill 25047, Enforcement of Federal Immigration Law. And obviously, this is a very important bill with the sanctuary status that we have had in Colorado. Colorado, Denver, the city that I love, has become dirty. It's become dangerous. And one of the reasons is because, again, of public policy. So the prime sponsors on this, hats off to them, is Senator Mark Baisley, Representative Max Brooks, Representative Chris Richardson. And it's Senate Bill 25047, and it's concerning reversing certain actions by the General Assembly related to measures intended to limit enforcement of federal immigration law. And so there are some bills down there at the House that are good bills, but the majority of them are not. And ding, ding, ding, as of this morning, not even really, just a little over a month and a half into this General Assembly, this legislative session, between the bills and the resolutions, we have 503 bills and resolutions that have been introduced down there. And it goes back to most of those want to take away our liberty. 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and welcome back to the kim monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmo nson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity Thank you so much for joining us. 426 steps out at Red Rocks and honoring the Marines, our Iwo Jima veterans and their birthdays and her birthday. And so decide how much you want to pledge towards her, celebrate the climb, and you can make that pledge over at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And what a good thing to do. So Kevin Lundberg is on the line. It is Tuesday. And Kevin Lundberg, a lot is happening in our state, in our country. And welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you, Kim. It's great being with you always, even though sometimes our subject matter isn't that pleasant. But you certainly are. And I know most of the listeners out there are just great folks trying to get the right things done as well. So let's charge forward.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, let's do now. I know that you are watching just basically all of the legislation with Bill Track 50, which is what we use for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers when we're doing our work. that i so that will include the resolutions so kevin as of this morning ding ding ding we have a total of bills and resolutions of 503 that have been introduced down at the state house this is not legislating this is irresponsible there's no way they can know all the stuff that they're voting on and putting into law And hats off to these Republicans that are working to try to push back and get rid of some of this stuff. But it's out of control, Kevin. That's all I can say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the amount of legislation has been out of control for a long time in many respects, particularly when you've got a very aggressive, radical majority that's trying to fundamentally change a whole lot of things here in the state of colorado you know you started this by saying that that i keep track of all the legislation no i try to keep track of all the legislation but right but it is impossible you know i mean i do go through every every bill i start with the bill title and i go down to the sponsors figure out okay you know what's what's my level of confidence and whoever's sponsoring this and then i read the summary and then if it is You know, if it looks like some flags pop up, either good ones or bad ones, I'll dig down into the text itself and start trying to unpack this. But there are so many things that are out there that are sleepers in a sense. I mean, hopefully we might get into this a little bit later on. But, you know, we're all very – most of us who have been – following this, are aware of Senate Bill 3, the semi-automatic weapon ban, essentially. But did you know that there are seven other anti-gun bills out there?
SPEAKER 16 :
It's amazing. So thank you for mentioning that. And before we move on, Kevin, I want to say thank you to my fellow Cutboard members because they are doing – What you're just describing, we are looking at this legislation, and we're all volunteers on this. And they're stepping up to review bills, take positions. So I want to say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onazork, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And I want to say thank you because they're doing all this great work. And we'd love to have you join us. It's only 25 bucks. But so what we've done here is I'd asked the creator of Bill Track 50 to just flag some specific words regarding legislation. And there are, I know, at least seven bad ones. But there's 21 pieces of legislation that have the word firearm in them. So we're trying to keep an eye on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Well, and that's a good example. I identified eight that I believe we really need to focus on. But you're right. Now, if it's a good bill, it can say something about honoring the Second Amendment or, better yet, honoring this color of Constitution that says the right to bear arms shall not be questioned. But more often than not, what they're doing is they're folding in. Well, you can't do this, can't do that. You know, there's one bill, House Bill 1225, that actually sets up a law against firearms, toy guns, and anything that might look like a gun because there are a lot of personal defense weapons that are not lethal weapons. They, you know, they'll fire some pepper spray or something like that, which is a very prudent thing for a lot of people to have in a lot of places here in Colorado. But this one will make it illegal if you're participating in political discourse.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that's all 25.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And that's how it makes it. Here's what it does. It says any time you're engaging in trying to – let's see. Let me just find this so that I can be precise.
SPEAKER 16 :
We talked about it yesterday. It's the Freedom from Intimidation in Elections Act.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, which actually sounds like it might be a good idea if there are really some bad actors out there trying to intimidate somebody and force them to vote one way or the other. But this defines it in terms of if you have what looks like might be a gun, a toy gun, or anything that somebody might consume that, somebody can sue you in civil court over intimidation because you simply have it present that they can see. And that's so contrary to the Colorado Constitution that talks about the right to bear arms shall not be questioned. And actually, if you read on a little bit more into the Constitution, it says, but this doesn't mean that you can carry concealed. Now, remember, in 1876, when they wrote the Constitution, it was the bad guys who put their gun in the vest, you know, and everybody else had it out on their hip. And that was placed, you know, in the Colorado Constitution to say, well, this is appropriate. But now, you know, and this is just an example of how they're coming down with terrible laws that you can't quite understand figure out until you dig a lot deeper. Or there's another one that says, this one is, and I don't have the number right in front of me. No, it's Senate Bill 129, I think it is, that says, let's see, it says that hospitals are to honor the religious leaders values, we'll say, of their people working with people in emergency rooms. Okay, it sounds good. It says legally, oh, it's 130. Yeah, it says, sincerely held religious beliefs are to be honored for health care providers in emergency rooms. Now, that sounds like maybe a good thing. But then it goes on to say that the facility is required to have somebody available who doesn't have any concerns with, let's say, abortion or gender transition mutilation services. So it's really a sideways of either the hospital has to have both a pro-life doc and and a doc who couldn't care less about pro-life in their emergency room or available in there. Or probably the simpler way is just to make sure that the pro-life medical people aren't hired for that position.
SPEAKER 16 :
Kevin, as you're saying this, I have said this, and what we're seeing, Colorado, I really think is at the tip of the spear of all of this stuff. And when people have read the blueprint, and that was how did Colorado turn from red to blue? And they focused on – and the real architect behind this was Al Yates, who had been – I think the title was chancellor up at CSU. CSU was then – what was it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he was actually called the president of CSU. Okay, thank you. And he would come to the Republican breakfast club meetings and act like a real reasonable guy who was just trying to get along with everybody. But you're right. He became the architect in the blueprint of shifting, throwing this state in the exact opposite direction of any conservative or traditional values.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Kevin, what I think happened with that, because I was not involved politically, and that's why I love having you on with all of this history that's been happening, because I didn't really start to even learn and pay attention until about 2011. I could feel something wasn't right, but I didn't really start to understand it. So here Al Yates puts together, he's the architect of this, and then he goes to these four very wealthy people, Jared Polis, Pat Stryker, Rhett Bridges, who his son Jeff is in the state senate, and Tim Gill. And so many people have thought it was those four, but it was really Al Yates. I had not heard this about Al Yates. So this had been his strategy then. Come in, look reasonable. And also that was a time where we put in term limits. And I know that many Republicans like the idea of term limits. And maybe we'll talk a little bit about it. Let's do that, because you and I have never had the conversation about term limits. So I want to know what you have to say about it, because I think that that was another thing. The strategy that opened up the opportunity in these elections then to get out some people that might have been really great conservatives and what that happened to the electorate. So we're going to continue this conversation with Kevin Lundberg. He's a former state senator. You can find him at the Kevin Lundberg. That's L-U-N-D-B-E-R dot com. And his Lundberg report that comes out every Saturday is so important. Every Monday morning, he has a great call with people across Colorado. So stay tuned. We get to do this because of our sponsors and for anything regarding residential real estate, buying a home, selling a home, a new build. Reach out to Karen Levine.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we talk about news, politics, and opinion on the show on a regular basis. But the Center for American Values is nonpolitical. It's nonpartisan. They're just focusing on really these foundational principles that can unite us. And that's honor, integrity, and patriotism. And patriotism is not bravado about your country. It's love of your country. And so the things that they do regarding honoring our Medal of Honor recipients, their great educational programs are all focused on that. And those things, honor, integrity, and patriotism are values that can unite us. So be sure and check out all their great work by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. Kevin Lundberg, you and I, I never know for sure where we're going to go on this discussion, and you've hit something with me, and that is the history of what has happened, how Colorado has turned to, we're really seeing movement towards socialism and communism. And the quote that I gave at the beginning of the show from John Locke is, He said, I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away my liberty would not, when he had me in his power, would take away everything else. You mentioned House Bill 1225 regarding having this thing about firearms in there. But I was looking at this and. And basically what it's saying is you can't question anything regarding our elections. And one of our listeners, as I was talking about it yesterday, said that it is really the prevention to inspect and discover and review our elections. And if we can't do that, it goes directly to what Locke has said. Then you will take everything else from me is what I see, Kevin.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there are a whole lot of aspects to 1225. What I spotted was really the banning of any means of self-protection or self-defense for anyone who's engaging in any, because it's so open-ended. You know, right now we have a law against carrying into a polling booth, you know, concealed carry. And I think that makes anytime you make a gun-free zone, you make a danger zone, a place where people go in and they can't defend themselves if some bad guy shows up and wants to make trouble. But this expands it out to any time you're trying to promote any candidate or any other political idea, if it says that you cannot carry openly, which is guaranteed in the Constitution, the Colorado Constitution, but it says anybody, and it doesn't prohibit it, It simply says that if anybody feels intimidated by that action, that they can sue you and that the state of Colorado can sue you as well. You know, so you can be drug into civil court. And in essence, it says that, you know, if you want to participate in the political process, you cannot exercise your Second Amendment and constitutionally guaranteed rights. rights for self-defense in the state of Colorado. It makes no sense. And, you know, you were talking about other aspects of it. It is a complicated bill. And I am very concerned with how our elections are conducted, but not from the standpoint of citizens shouldn't be able to question it or shouldn't be able to participate in it. Quite the opposite. It's all locked up in this big super secret system where you are prevented and even county clerks are prevented from asking questions about how the systems work. Yeah, this is just totally opposite of actual... transparency in elections. It's a don't you dare look or we'll take you to court over and you will be the loser.
SPEAKER 16 :
So we are going to keep an eye on this, but I want to go back to this Al Yates thing then, because this is all connected. And so Al Yates, he was the architect of the blueprint. And you said that he would come to Republican breakfast and would come across as very reasonable, I guess might be one of the words that you might say. So tell me a little bit more about him. And this is so interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
Just a little bit of a beginning point here in that Bob Schaefer, when he was in Congress, started what was called the Republican Breakfast Club. And today I'm continue that online, you know, over a Zoom format. But but it was held up in Fort Collins. And of course, CSU is the main campus is up there. And back then it was the campus. I don't think they'd expanded to other areas at that time. And Al Yates was the president of the school, and Bob would invite him to come in occasionally and talk on issues. And we all got this sense that he was sort of a moderate. You know, he said, well, I'm not a Republican, but I'm not really a Democrat either. I'm just, you know, an active, engaged citizen. And we would, you know, you kind of walk away thinking, oh, that guy's okay. You know, he's running a college, and there are some questions about how our state schools are operated. But at least we're in good hands up. up there. That was the impression you got. But you're right. When the blueprint came out and it unveiled all of the different players, he wasn't one of the big funders. Those other four that you mentioned, Polis and Stryker and Gill and Bridges, were the ones who put up the cash. And I really point to them as having directed the real reason. But they hired Al Yates to be the mastermind behind it on all the structural elements and apparently proved to be pretty successful with that because it was a takeover of the system in Colorado. Now, it took millions and millions of dollars, which they were very free to pour in. And really, I point to Polis and Gil as being the guys who really wanted They wanted to upturn the whole concept of the family, and they've been very successful at that in many, many ways. But, yeah, Yates was one of them. And, of course, there are cast of thousands, really, that they funded, essentially. And they changed the whole concept on a lot of basic fundamental issues with Yates. very shrewd marketing and management of people at several levels. They would hire protesters at conservative events. I have examples of that I'd give you. We only have so much time on the radio, you know.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that is even occurring now. I was talking with a friend of mine that in their county, they're Republican. They were just having their regular meeting, and yesterday there were protesters outside. And that's one of the things that's been interesting to me regarding Trump, too, and the administration. They acted so quickly that it's really taken about four weeks for those paid protesters to be out in the street. And by that time, a lot of light has been shed on what has been going on. And so you see these protesters that are out in the street and I'm looking at them. I'm like, oh, so you are protesting for waste, fraud and abuse in our government. And And Trump, too, and Doge is uncovering amazing stuff. But let's go back so that people understand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you go any further, I think I was at that meeting or I was at one meeting last night up in Larimer County. The the the GOP executive board met. And, yeah, we had about a dozen people that are holding up signs and telling us how terrible it is. Trump is and how they were so afraid for themselves. And I really think of that in terms of, yes, that's how the left has managed to just twist the facts of the matter of how our government is functioning. So it's upside down. I mean, most of the complaints they were making, I'm thinking, well, where were you four years ago when Biden was put in place? If you think that That Trump is somehow dictatorial. Well, you know, I mean, Biden just just blew that out of the map off the map. But, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yes, that was the meeting that I was referring to. And so let's just connect this dot for people then. We have this House Bill 1225 regarding intimidation in our elections or in canvassing and all that. So here you have the Larimer County Executive Committee Republicans meeting. And you've got protesters outside that are trying to intimidate you. So it's like the intimidators are the ones that are trying to put in laws to prevent intimidation. But they are the intimidators. It's important that people understand that, Kevin.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. And this is I've never seen this, you know, at this level. It actually I think there's something remarkable. I don't know if these people were paid to do it or just encouraged to do it. But I've seen examples in the past where I know that they were. you know, that there are some groups on the left that put together these artificial, you know, public protests that were really well orchestrated. This one wouldn't surprise me if there was some, you know, some encouragement given to some of these folks. But they were more than outside. They came into the meeting. And, well, that's because these meetings are public. We allow people. You know, generally, it's activists within the party that come and say, hey, we have public comment. And several of the protesters gave their public comment. Now, they they handled themselves in a reasonable fashion. So we simply listen. But but the arguments they made were just. totally off the wall. Again, time doesn't allow to go into detail, but this is a new thing that I've never seen before. You talk about the history. Well, I have no recollection of the left coming and trying to, I don't want to say disrupt, but trying to to push their agenda in, in our, you know, monthly board meeting where we're talking about, you know, who's been appointed as a precinct committee person and what fundraising plans we have and, you know, what, what the budget looks like and all those, you know, technical things like that. And, and they did, there was one lady in particular, she, she, she was handling herself. Okay. Except for the fact that anytime anything came up, she'd raise her hand and, tied to talk when she really wasn't appropriate. It was time for the board to deal with. And, you know, we finally had to say, look, you've had the public comment. We've given you your time. Now we've got to conduct our business. And they finally got up and left, but not after a very long time. And it was a very different experience than We're used to, believe me.
SPEAKER 16 :
In a way, I feel that's a form of intimidation because most people do not like conflict. They feel uncomfortable. They kind of want to stay away from that. And I think the radical activists, extremists know that. So if they can disrupt things and what is the opposite of order is chaos. So if they can create chaos, people are not comfortable with that. And it is a form of intimidation. And we need to understand that and stand up against it.
SPEAKER 08 :
You are absolutely correct on that. And yes, they were trying to push us off. so we couldn't get our business done. And, you know, hats off to our brand-new chairman, Sandra Oste, who conducted it in a very reasonable fashion. But, yes, this is much of what has occurred. Now, we honored their right for free speech, you know, which kind of reminds me of what J.D. Vance was saying was talking to those European leaders about recently. You know, we didn't say, we won't hear this. No, we heard it. And yet we had to, at a certain point, say, but we've got business to do here, so now we need to move on. And, yeah, I'm going to leave it with this, though. I believe that it shows that there's more discussion – and focus on what we're doing at the ground level in politics here in Colorado, I think the left realizes that the people are not with them anymore. And when they go down these absurd roads of banning firearms anywhere, essentially, which is what 1225 does, or forcing... child mutilation and men and women's sports activities here in Colorado, they're losing their arguments. And it almost looks like a sign of desperation on my part, but we on the conservative side need to step up and say, no, let's reason with you and let's move forward and let's try to build this nation up in the right way and stop tearing it down, which is essentially... what Biden was doing and his cronies. And, you know, these people, knowing or unknowingly, are begging that we continue down this road of destruction.
SPEAKER 16 :
Excellent point, Kevin Lundberg. So we're going to continue this discussion. And I'm learning so much, as always, from Kevin Lundberg. You need to check out his website. That's KevinLundberg.com. And I am blessed to work with amazing people. And another group is Boson Law and John Boson.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You shouldn't have to force people to do it. I'm talking with Kevin Lundberg, and be sure and check out his website, KevinLundberg.com, and the Lundberg Report that comes out every Saturday. An enormous amount of work is put into that. Kevin Lundberg, we ended up talking about... Blueprint, How Colorado Turned Blue, and Al Yates, who was the president of CSU. And CSU has really lurched generally to the far left as far as a university. I used to think it was more conservative than CU, and I'm not sure that it is. I think it might be more progressive university. then see you and and that that's taken some work to have a parent that has a couple of rammies to to talk to talk about that but so this is what i see and you were there but back late 90 in the 90s they they're putting this together this blueprint um And they're going out, they're appearing reasonable, but yet I think they're training and funding all these different small organizations to look like grassroots, to get involved in elections. And then we have term limits, whereas we might have conservatives that were in the State House and the State Senate, and they're termed out. So now you don't know the two candidates that much anymore. And people are busy. And so you're starting to see maybe somebody that's moving a little bit more to the left. They get elected, maybe push a few things regarding election law, get over to 2013. Then after these elections and put in the mail-in ballots, then you don't clean up the voter rolls. And it just has been this long, long plan. and then pretty soon you get to a point where we have open primaries, people are not that informed, everybody's getting a ballot, and they realized if they could win the elections of the most populous counties, they could control the state. That's where we are. Do you think my dot connecting is correct?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I'm going to challenge you on one. I'm going to challenge you on one point. I think you definitely have the general flow of it together very well. In terms of term limits, I believe that cuts both ways. And I was term limited. I actually support term limits. And here's why. Because Term limits does encourage the citizen legislator rather than the career legislator. And Colorado is one of those states that has a part time legislature. And this means that you actually have. more people coming in who have other life experiences and have to continue some of those careers and the like. You know, I saw a study years ago on the economic vitality of states that have full-time legislatures as opposed to part-time. And the part-time legislatures have the healthiest economy. largely because they're the ones that don't spend all their time coming up with new laws and regulations and plans from the top down. Anyway, I support term limits. I probably wouldn't have been in the legislature had it not been for term limits, because in my case, there was a very radical... We found out, I mean, he spoke in different terms, but a Democrat who was in a Senate seat that had there not been term limits, he might have continued on and on and on in a relatively conservative district. But when he was turned out and through some other mechanisms, I ended up in that seat eventually. So I think it cuts both ways there. And in Congress, I definitely would support term limits because it gets so ingrown with the career guys. And I mean, I don't think we have to make too many arguments to agree on the fact that Congress needs some real changes. And I believe term limits would help. But everything else you say, I absolutely agree with. Because they, meaning the hard left, have been playing the long game for decades. There was actually a change in the campaign finance laws back in 2000, I believe it was. And I heard rumor, I don't know this for a fact, but I heard rumor that Polis was one of those that was promoting these strict campaign finance limits, which... really hamstrung the political parties so that they no longer had the ability to engage in the process because of their funding limitations. And this enabled the other players to come in. You know, you can't stop money from pouring into elections. But if you put rules and regulations on what candidates and what parties can take, That money just goes underground, and it comes out through 527s or the whole thing that's described in the blueprint. That's all much a result of campaign finance limitations.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and we have just one minute left. And to that point, though, at least from what I've learned, is there's all these limits regarding financing campaigns by individuals and the limits on all that here in Colorado, and they're pretty low. So that makes it very difficult for, for example, grassroots candidates to get enough money to really run a campaign. But but a candidate can self fund. So you have rich guy, Jared Polis, and he can put all the money in his campaign that he wants. I know I'm throwing that out there. 30 seconds. And Holly, I want to let Holly know that Kevin and I will talk about your question next week. 30 seconds, Kevin. It feels like I just said welcome. And now I'm saying goodbye.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, there's there's so much to be covered in all of this. People need to stay tuned. We're about, you know, nearly halfway through the legislative session. And just like the years past, there are radical changes that are being forced on the people of Colorado. So come back next week. We'll talk more.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's Kevin Lundberg, that website. I'm sure you've got great.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's going to be super interesting as well. And Kevin Lundberg, thank you. We will talk next week. Our quote for the end of the show is from John Locke, who said this, all mankind being all equal and independent. No one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions. John Locke from so many years ago. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. And stay tuned for our number two.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You are each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And big first hour. And one of our listeners, let's see if I get to the text line, said great synopsis over how the left took great synopsis on how the left took over Colorado. Yes, we're going to continue that. And I love it that Kevin Lundberg has so much history because I learn learn what's going on. And he was down at the state legislature. So stay tuned. He's on every Tuesday during this legislative session. Check out the website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And the recaps, the podcasts of the shows are there. You can sign up for our weekly email newsletter, which that goes out on Sundays. That way you have first look at who our guests, who all of our guests are going to be and and all of our upcoming essays for the week. So check that out. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station. searching for truth and clarity on these issues. Remember, if something's a good idea, you shouldn't have to force it. And we look at these through the litmus test of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. You can hear the show 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. And the first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night, and that is on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. We have the show recaps on my website, KimMonson.com, with a written summary, also with the podcast, and those podcasts can also be heard on Spotify, iTunes, and all of those streaming services. So be sure and check all that out. Our quote of the day... I've just been ruminating on that on a regular basis this morning. It's so amazing. And we're seeing this here in Colorado. It's John Locke. He was born in 1632, died in 1704. And he was really influenced our... Our founders. Now I'm trying to think what Brad said. He's got something. I've got to find that out about our founders. It's really cool. It's something like the group of worthies or something. I'll get that from Brad. But anyway, this is the quote from John Locke. He said, I have no reason to suppose that he who would take away my liberty. would not, when he had me in his power, take away everything else that is happening right now at this Colorado state legislature with the radical activists that are in control and this Colorado governor. That's why we are engaged in this battle of ideas on a regular basis. And this battle of ideas is nascent. Yeah, nascent. Is that right, Yvonne? Let me know. N-A-S-C-E-N-T. She's the one that gave me the word. It's coming into existence or emerging. Number two, commencing or in the process of development, beginning to exist or to grow, coming into being. And number three, evolving, becoming involved or produced. And this third founding is nascent, I guess. So anyway, work on this, my friends. I'm working on it to impress our friends and family with our emerging, our nascent expanded vocabulary. So how's that as well? Our bill of the day, Senate Bill 25047, this is a good bill, and it is, let me get over here, it is sponsored. I've got too many bills up here now, my friends. And so it is sponsored. Hang here because I want to get this all up. Here we go. Senate Bill 25047, Enforcement of Federal Immigration Law Concerning Reversing Certain Actions by the General Assembly Related to Measures Intended to Limit Enforcement of Federal Immigration Law. And so this is to start to reclaim our state back. And those prime sponsors on that are all Republicans. Surprise, surprise. And that is Senator Mark Baisley, Representative Max Brooks, and Representative Chris Richardson. And so that is our bill of the day, Senate Bill 25047. And let's see here. I wanted to talk with John Bosen. Bosen Law is a great sponsor of the show. And they are trial attorneys, and they can help you if you've been injured or if you are wanting to apply for a Social Security disability. Uh, and they, they are, um, they're real pros at this and, and they're, you see so many different, um, firms out there that are advertised. You want to make sure that you are working with someone that really cares about you instead of just settling or whatever. And so that's why I'm so pleased to have a John Bozen and Bozen Law as a sponsor. John, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good morning, Kim.
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So question. If somebody's been involved in a motor vehicle accident that was caused by another driver, what are some of the basic things that people should know when that happens?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, first and foremost, you get hit by another driver, it's not your fault. Call the police. Call the sheriff. Call law enforcement to come out and, very importantly, make a determination of fault. And I brought this up in the past. I mean, people who cause accidents will sometimes change their story after the fact, and that can be a real problem if you've been involved in an accident and it wasn't your fault. So you can eliminate that entire problem by simply calling the authorities and having someone come out and make a determination of fault, cite the other driver, because liability is the first thing determinant factor in whether or not I've got a case that I can pursue on behalf of someone and help them. So that's number one. Number two, and it really depends on where the accident happens, but if it happens, there are other drivers around, drivers come to check up on you. Even with the police officer coming to make a determination, there can be some questions about who was at fault. So if someone checks on you after an accident, if you're able Ask them to please give you their business card or their name and number, so if necessary, you can contact them down the road. And then, again, there's so many steps, but you want to get the other driver's information, exchange insurance. If you've got an uncooperative driver, they don't want to wait until the police get there. Again, if you're able, take pictures. Get a license plate. Take a picture of the car. Take a picture of the individual if you have that opportunity. These things all deal with liability. The most important thing, the thing I'm concerned about the most, is my client's health. And so if someone is involved in an accident, they need to get checked out, even if they feel okay after the accident because adrenaline hides a lot of symptoms. I encourage folks, go to urgent care. Get in and see a doctor. Tell them what happened. Let them check you out. Report every symptom, anything that doesn't feel right, so that your health, first and foremost, is going to be taken care of. Those are initial steps, and there's so many more. The step I want people to take as soon after an accident as they're able is, is to give me a call so I can advise them of additional important steps, how to deal with the insurance company, steps to follow through to make sure, again, their health is going to be first and foremost. And with that phone call, I will give them all of that advice.
SPEAKER 16 :
So John Boson, I've shared with you a few years ago, I was involved in a fender bender, a guy ran into me and I'll just make a quick comment. He had State Farm Insurance and he admitted guilt or not guilt, fault, I should say that. And oh my gosh, they were so great to work with. And so, but my adrenaline, this was just a little fender bender. My adrenaline was on, you know just totally hyped up and you can see how you could make decisions that could affect you down the road so he admitted that it was his fault we exchanged information and i was really blessed to work with somebody very reputable but i think you mentioned maybe a few weeks ago that people had exchanged information, the other person had admitted a fault, or somebody told me this story, but that didn't really verify, couldn't read the writing on the exchanging of of information and that was a real problem so people i and that's why i think these calls that we have with you every week start to inform people remember to do this remember to do that it's just like training in the military that way if something happens they know what they're doing But have the wherewithal to make sure that take their insurance card, take a picture of their driver's license, maybe have them write down their contact information so that you have multiple ways that you know that you've contacted them. And then the other thing is, is I did pull I did have the wherewithal probably because you and I talked is that I took pictures and that was super helpful as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, all those things help, and life's not perfect, and you may miss something, but if you do a bunch of those things, you're probably going to be okay. Can't guarantee anything, but you're probably going to be okay. And it was you and I, and we spoke, and the person I spoke to took a picture of the driver's license of the driver that hit her, but it was blurry. You could not identify or document anything. So if you're going to take pictures, try to make sure those pictures are clear and you can pull them up and you can see things. The problem is you're involved in an accident and some folks suffer concussions, and so you're not thinking right. And so if you can remember to call 911 and then wait until the police get there. If the other driver is not going to wait, then you've got to do what you can to take pictures properly. Hopefully someone else is on the scene that can do some of that stuff for the injured driver too. We've been fortunate to have folks have bad situations and somebody else steps up and documented things, took pictures, got a video. But if you're able, your first step, call the police so they can help make that determination. Also make sure that the person, if the officers are doing what they should be doing, get them to the hospital, get them to see a doctor. so that we're not going to have a more tragic story.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. And what's the best way for people to reach you, John Boson, at Boson Law?
SPEAKER 09 :
To call us at our main number, 303-999-9999. That's 303-999-9999, right? All nines. Okay. John Boson, I always learn so much.
SPEAKER 16 :
We'll talk again next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Have a great rest of your show. Take care.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something. is a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and i want to say thank you to laramie energy for their goal sponsorship of the show it is reliable efficient affordable and abundant energy that allows us to thrive and prosper that we can power our lives fuel our hopes and dreams and it empowers us to change our own personal climates that we can be warm in the winter and cool in the summer and all that's under attack The radical activists don't want everyday people to thrive and prosper. And so that whole industry has been under attack and it's attacking really the American ideal. So that's why it is so important that we have these conversations. So we're changing it up a little bit regarding some of the things that we talk about. I talk about uh our america's veteran stories uh and really address a lot of things and in fact i had interviewed john chapman's sister uh regarding he's a medal of honor recipient uh and it's a it's a fascinating story and tom tarver is a regular listener concerned citizen and he's brought to my attention something that is um really of great concern uh regarding john chapman so tom tarver welcome to the show
SPEAKER 05 :
Good morning, Kim.
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It's good to have you, Tom. And you and I both have a heart for our military. And I think before we get into it, you've got an event that's going to be coming up this summer that is just really a fantastic organization and a fantastic event. So tell us just a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Kim, thank you very much. So this will be our sixth annual conference. Colorado Celebrity Classic Dinner Show in Colorado Springs to kick off the Pikes Peak or Bus Rodeo. And we do a fundraiser there in honor of TAPS, the Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors. So the charity looks after family members after they've passed over in service to the country. And TAPS is there to help their family and their children on their journey with counseling, good grief camps, mentors, just a litany of services that will help people know that there's a tomorrow for them. And so every year we kick off the Pike Speaker Bus Rodeo, and this year we do a great show. We have a songwriter show format with songwriters coming in from Nashville. And last year, of course, you were there, and you saw the Castellos with Frank Myers and Brett Jones, the songwriters. from Nashville, and they put on a great show. The Coors Cowboy Club comes up from Amarillo. Pete Coors is here every year to serve sliced prime rib to 500 people. And we raise a lot of money for a great charity. It's a great evening. And this year, the Nashville legend Darrell Worley is coming to perform for us, along with Billy Montana. And Rob Crosby, two great songwriters out of Nashville with Jimmy Nichols, one of the legendary people from Nashville. So we do an intimate dinner show. It's a great time. I know you were there last year, and we're looking forward to it. We're announcing our release today. So you'll be seeing emails come out on that. If people want to take a look at what we do down there and join us over the Fourth of July weekend, you go to taps.org forward slash Colorado, and you can click on the Colorado Springs Dinner Show event and sign up, and we'd love to have you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, well, yes, we'll keep people informed on all of this, and the Castellos, it's three sisters, absolutely gorgeous, and they are probably one of the up-and-coming groups out of Nashville, and so it was really a treat to get to see them before they probably become really famous, I think, Tom Tarver.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, they're touring with Thomas Rhett right now, so they're on their way, and It's great for us to bring in these different venues or different levels of talent and watch them grow. We've had a lot of legendary people, and to see up-and-comers come in, we're going to be doing more of that in the future as well. And, yeah, they were a great show, and they've actually said that they would return, so we may look to having them back in the future.
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Okay. Well, very good. So let's set this up regarding what you really wanted to talk about, and that is John Chapman. And it's been a real journey, Tom Tarver, for me to learn about the Medal of Honor. I knew the Medal of Honor was special. And my journey with America's Veterans Stories, I went to Normandy in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans. Back to Normandy for the 72nd anniversary of the D-Day landings. My four guys, they've all passed on now. But we have these great interviews with them. And I realized that we need to know all these stories. And so I got connected. Somehow, maybe it was even you regarding John Chapman and his story and interviewed his sister, Lori Chapman, for America's Veterans Stories. And if people want the link to that, I've got that. We don't have our America's Veterans Stories website. as where we wanted exactly because I'm an independent and resources, all that stuff. But we have the interview with her. And it's a riveting story. And I think I got my wires crossed regarding that clip that you sent over. So do you want to play a little bit of that? To do all eight minutes, it would be difficult. Do you want to do a little bit at a time? And we can go to break and come back and be a little bit more organized on that. How would you like to do that? And I apologize to everybody that I didn't know that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And Kim, that's quite all right, because it's it's an eight minute, 49 second clip. And basically, it kind of sheds light on kind of a travesty of an Air Force combat controller that was caught up in the political machine of the Navy military. The Naval Defense Department and their their incessant need to make sure that the Navy SEALs are predominant in all situations where John Chapman is the true hero of what happened to Tucker Gar. He he was left behind. The Navy covered it up for 15 years and then after the IR predator footage came out and the signal reps were put together, which was the communications between the guys they were able to identify the dots on the snow. Watch the firefight. It's the first Medal of Honor that's ever been recorded live. And you can see that the statements that were put out by the Naval Defense Department and Brett Sebliski, the other Medal of Honor winner, Navy SEAL, that didn't really perform some of those things that they were talking about, or that he testified that he did, didn't happen. It was done by John Chapman. And now as this is coming more and more to light, this came to light basically because of the Medal of Honor Museum, in arlington texas is opening in 25 days and magically brett sibliski the navy seal is on the board for that museum and his medal of honor main exhibit in the first 200 exhibits is being portrayed where john chapman is stuck in the back and john was actually the real hero and i i got involved with this a few months back i'm like most people you're just an average citizen but I have connections to some of the guys out of Fort Bragg. And when it was brought to my attention, you know, Kim, like you and I are both good patriots. You start delving into this and you see kind of some of the politics that go on behind these things and, you know, how the Navy, the Naval Defense Department kind of tried to smother up what John Chapman did and then elevate one of their guys. And it's all because of a bad mission that was done by the Naval Defense Department on Tucker Gar. And they had to save face. Unfortunately, that's what it looks like to everyone. You see it on all the blogs. You see it on all the now the major news carriers are carrying it now. Congressman Anna Paulina Luna is now opening an investigation to find out why. why this happened and why one guy was able to take somebody else's actions and put them into a report for himself. So there's a lot of moving parts going on with this right now. And the thing is, is it's been brought to light now because of the predator footage. And after 15 years, John Chapman is hopefully going to get the recognition that that man deserves.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it's a riveting story. And again, I've been on a learning curve on all of this. And the Medal of Honor, well, let's go to break. I'm talking with Tom Tarver, and he is really a patriot. He is a citizen, and the story is just really important to him. And And I wasn't even really aware of this until he brought it to my attention. And so we thought it was important that you all know about this as well. An industry that we are seeing a lot of consolidation in is the beef industry. And beef is such a great protein source. And I tell you, I'm so pleased to have Lavaca Meat Company here. As a sponsor, they are located at the corner of Main and Nevada in Old Littleton. They're a premium product, great hamburger, great steaks, and it truly is that steakhouse experience at home. We'll be right back with Tom Tarver.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I cannot believe that March is right around the corner. March 15th is right around the corner. That is the day that Paula Sarles, president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, will climb 426 steps out at Red Rocks in honor of the Marines' birthday, the Iwo Jima veterans up with Cooper's troopers that they're going to turn 100. In fact, Jack Thurman, who was one of them, he was wanting to make it to 100. He was just about four months short of that. He just passed on. And so last week, last Sunday on America's Veterans Stories, we broadcast an interview that I did with him. And that will rebroadcast this Sunday, 10 to 11 at night on all the KLC 560 platforms. But Paula is going to be doing that for her 76th birthday. It's a great, fun way to support the USMC Memorial Foundation and their work to raise the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And so you can pledge a dime, a quarter, a dollar, whatever you want, and do that by going to USMC Memorial Foundation for Paula Saral's climbing challenge. There we go. So Tom Tarver is on the line. And Tom, before we get back into this conversation regarding John Chapman, again, just let people know that you're going to be rolling out the information for your TAPS event this summer. I love it that people are hearing it first on my show. But again, just to set that up for people.
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You bet. Hot off the press, Kim. July 5th, Colorado Springs. At the Norris Penrose Event Center, which is right next to the rodeo grounds for the Pikes Peak or Bus Rodeo, we have our Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors Dinner Show, Colorado Celebrity Classic, where we bring in songwriters and country stars from Nashville. And we put on an intimate dinner show with a prime rib dinner served by the Coors Cowboy Club of Amarillo, Texas. And Pete Coors is there out serving. You'll see Jake Chaps there, a lot of celebrities, local celebrities. And we're there to raise money for a great charity and a great cause is to look after the family members of those who have died in service to the country.
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And for more information, where can people go?
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So, and again, a great cause and thanks for the work that you do on that. Okay. John Chapman, Medal of Honor recipient. And the Medal of Honor is a big deal. And the reason is, is because it's the highest award that can be given, a military award that can be given in America. And there's really stringent criteria. And that is that there has to be written recommendations for it. You have to have two eyewitness accounts. And so John Chapman is very unique because he is the first time, as you mentioned, that a Medal of Honor recipient, that it was verified via technology. And it was, I think, a drone that filmed everything. And you and I talked about it, and you're trying to get me really ready for this interview. And, Tom, you know I tell these stories. I have these Medal of Honor recipients. I have these veterans on on a regular basis. I listen to their stories. But it's very difficult for me to watch. The Saving Private Ryan, when I was with the guys in Normandy, Frank DeVita, who was on the Higgins boats, he was a Higgins boat operator. He said that that's probably the closest that he's ever seen of a depiction of what happened. And I have a really hard time watching all that. I want the stories out there, but I have a really hard time. And you said, Kim, you can just watch the drone footage and you can see what happened on that mountaintop. And Tom, I tried, but I couldn't because I knew what happened. So let's tell people what happened.
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Okay. Well, let me try to set this up. This is a case much like you're familiar with Flags of Our Fathers, correct, the movie? Yeah. And how that movie, and through some diligence and some work after 40, 50 years, people identified the wrong people that stood up the flag on top of Iwo Jima. They ended up changing out several of the people. Two of the guys that were running around during the, as you saw him in the movie, Rene Gagnon and John Bradley, ultimately were not in the second photo. It was Hank Hansen and, oh, I can't remember his name, Strank. You saw that after the movie came out, people did some forensic work into something, and they write they write it something that had been wrong for 50 years. And the names are now realigned with the proper people that stood up the flag at Iwo Jima. But it sat that way for a long time. But those guys went around and did their duty. And I think you see a lot of that case in point for this. that you had a really bad mission on Takar Gar during the Battle of Anaconda, and the Navy SEALs were to take the top of Takar Gar for an observation and position to call in airstrikes. So they were tasked with taking Takar Gar. Their helicopter was late taking off. I'm just like you, Kim. I'm an average guy. I started doing my research into this. when it was brought to my attention. And you learn the small things and the nuances of what set many things into a bad situation where their helicopter was late taking off and they were trying to get up there in the early, early hours of the morning or early evening, 8, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock. They ended up landing on the mountain at 2 o'clock because their helicopter was delayed. So they had to fly farther up the mountain to get to their objective on the top of the hill. So they flew up and what happened was they got into a fight with a helicopter being in a precarious position. And at that point, that helicopter took some RPG hits and heavy gunfire and anti-aircraft fire. And unfortunately, Navy SEAL Roberts was dropped out the back of the helicopter into the snow, and the helicopter was severely disabled. It had to fly down. It crash-landed at the bottom of the hill. about six miles away, and the guy did a controlled landing or some heroic stuff that went on with just keeping that helicopter from crashing and killing everyone on board. At that point, Sablinski and his men waited for another helicopter to show up, and they remobilized into another helicopter and went back up there to go get Navy SEAL Roberts. And when they got up there, they dismounted the helicopter, and they got into an unbelievable firefight. And, you know, you don't diminish the service of anybody that's up there or anybody that serves. Those guys are fighting in all directions. And if you watch the IR footage, and I will tell people, if you're sitting there and you'd like to know about this, you can go to change.org and go to John Chapman. pull up the petition, and after you watch the video and read the testimonies that are in there, you can sign the petition to help John's case and help his family. But the firefight breaks out, and John Chapman is the one that ends up storming the first bunker. There are two bunkers and a rock outcropping on this particular event. And John is the one that leads the way, and the IR footage after 15 years confirms that what actually happened on that hill. And John was put in for a Medal of Honor after the event. Three of the Navy SEALs testified on his behalf via emails. They recanted 10, 12 years later because they wouldn't sign their forms, but they did sign them for Brett Zabliski. So there's some problems with all that that, you know, John kind of got pushed to the side because the Navy had a bad mission. They had to look good. They had to find their hero. And those guys up there are all heroes. But The Medal of Honor goes to John Chapman, and when you see the testimony that come out of the Medal of Honor winner, Brett Zabliski, he was using John Chapman's testimony, and that's a travesty, Kim. And, you know, you look into the operations community and you watch some of the blogs and some of the videos and some of the testimony of these other Delta guys and people that listened to the event, guys that were actual operators at one time, they're appalled by what's happened with this.
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So John Chapman did receive the Medal of Honor. He was killed on that mountaintop in Afghanistan.
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He was, that's correct.
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And I think he left a wife and one or two little children, I think, as well, didn't he?
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Two daughters, yes.
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Two little kids, okay. And so we take so for granted everything that we're doing. So steps forward, duty for our country, and not looking at any politics on the wars or anything. We're looking at an individual. He did receive the Medal of Honor. So that was the right thing that happened. Yes.
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And he received it after Sablinski got his. He got his secondary. And I think that's because they finally knew. that that there's a wrong here okay you can read you can go to navy.mil and read the and read the citation for zablinski and you can see what what's happened there and when the predator footage came out finally after 15 years and the cigarette that comes out the signal communications, and they were to forensically match those. You can see that John Chapman is, and when you watch the IR Predator footage, and hopefully we can hear a little bit of the tape, the audio here coming up, and you can see how they've taken it apart and they forensic the way it went down and how John Chapman got into that first bunker. He killed the enemy combatants in there. So once he got in there with him, But John stepped out of the bunker to go ahead and engage another bunker, and he was shot. He was shot twice, and he went down, but he was under cover and concealment. So Blinsky retreated back behind a rock outcropping. They call it the rock, and they got up on top. and the SEALs opened up with their weapons, but they were outnumbered. It's hard to say what the numbers were, but you can see that from the predator footage, you can see one of the Navy SEALs with his M60, and you can see the report of the machine gun kicking off, and then you see an explosion in front of him, and he goes down the back of the rock, and so... Zablinsky in the defensive movie, he comes down around the back and he gets his guys together. He's doing what he needs to do. And he gets his guys together and they slide down the hill around the bunker where Chapman is. They go past Navy SEAL Roberts' body, which is unfortunate. He'd already been killed and tortured. It's a terrible story when you get into what happened to him. But they slid down the hill and they ended up being a couple hundred meters down the mountain while John Chapman was there. He got up after a brief period of time and started reengaging targets and started calling close air support in. Now, he couldn't hear people. Apparently, they were trying to talk back to him, but I don't think he could hear. But he was up out of that bunker again fighting by himself. Everybody else was down the hill. There was another quick reaction force coming up the hill. to help them, and John sees that helicopter coming. Now, this guy's been mortally wounded already at this point. He's going to die anyway. He gets out of the bunker to get in the line of fire so that that helicopter can put down and let those guys get out of that helicopter. And during that next fight, he's fighting with these guys. He's had two physical engagements, hand-to-hand combat with guys. and then he's out of that bunker fighting to make sure that helicopter lands and that helicopter takes heavy fire and it crash lands but those guys all got out but there were several people killed there um and at the end there were seven people killed on this entire engagement but the quick reaction forces all got up there and finally conquered the hill but without john's actions he was actually put in citation wise twice for two medals on two medals of honor
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Wow. Okay, Tom, let's go to break. I'm talking with Tom Tarver. And Tom, I think before we go to break, though, is the reason that I think you're so fervent about people knowing about this is because of... It sounds to me like Sleplinski, or it sounds like they certainly were heroic in many things as well. It's really more that it's people taking credit for something that they didn't do. That's the thing that you're concerned about, right?
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Yeah, and I think after I've started watching some of the Green Beret blogs and the Delta blogs, And some of the Air Force guys are such professionals, they don't really talk about this. This was brought to me by someone very close to me. And once you look at it, Kim, it kind of breaks your heart to see politics and, you know, you start to find out the seedy side of what goes on with some of this stuff and how, you know, this guy was cheated for a long time, and he's the real Medal of Honor winner on that hill. And then it all started with the museum in Texas where they wanted to put one guy – in the main exhibits downstairs in the Medal of Honor Museum in Texas. And strangely, he's on the board there. And I've noticed some changes here, but I know you need to go to break. We can get to that later.
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Okay, sounds great. I'm talking with Tom Tarver, a super interesting conversation about Medal of Honor recipient John Chapman. He died during that battle, leaving his wife and two little daughters. I did have the great honor to interview his sister, who I haven't talked with her for a couple of years. She was up in Wyoming, but we did that interview for America's Veterans Stories yesterday. And that was, again, my journey as I'm learning all of these different things. And hopefully you're all learning as well. And we get to do this because of our sponsors. And one of those is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. He can help you in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That's Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I'm talking with Concerned Citizen Patriot. Tom Tarver regarding the story of John Chapman, his Medal of Honor, kind of being put to the back of this new museum that is down in Arlington, Texas. So let's set this up just a little bit on these museums. The official Medal of Honor Museum is in South Carolina. However, this new one that is going to open, you said, in 25 days in Arlington, Texas, apparently a cowboy, Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, has financed this. My understanding is it's $300 million that's been put into this. And people like to hang around Medal of Honor recipients because they're heroes. And yet what I have seen with the Medal of Honor recipients that I've met and their stories with the beautiful work that's being done at the Center for American Values down in Pueblo, because Pueblo, Tom, is known as the home of heroes because there's four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And so the museum there, or it's not a museum, the Center for American Values honors our Medal of Honor recipients or many of them with their portraits of valor and their on values presentations and their educational programs. but they're not financed with huge money or huge government money. It's been founded by Drew Dix and Brad Padula. So I want to explain that so people don't get mixed up. The official museum is in South Carolina. You've got the Jerry Jones thing going on in Arlington, and then the Center for American Values is really honoring many of our Medal of Honor recipients. So I wanted to clarify that for people. You bet. Thank you. So with that, Joe, Tom wanted us to listen to the first two minutes. And I did listen to that whole YouTube that you sent over, Tom. So I was working on my preparation. But let's play this two-minute clip, okay?
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Perfect. In the darkness.
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Joe, you know what? I can't hear it. So hit that button so I can.
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This bunker will come to be known as Bunker 1. To the left of the tree in Bunker 1 is another gray mass. This is a rock outcropping that came to be called the boulder. Between Bunker 1 and this boulder can be seen the body of slain SEAL Neil Roberts, the man Chapman and the others are attempting to recover. Chapman, still alone and closest to the enemy, pauses to engage targets as his team leader follows him, but never actually catches up with him. Chapman, on his own, now makes the decision to charge directly into the enemy bunker, despite withering point-blank fire. Chapman, now literally on top of the enemy, engages the two combatants and kills them, saving the lives of the remaining SEALs. He does this from a distance of no more than 10 feet. These actions, by themselves, earned him his first Medal of Honor. He then climbs into and takes control of the bunker. Having cleared the immediate threat, Chapman is then joined by his team leader in Bunker 1. You can then see Chapman and his team leader engaging the next bunker, known as Bunker 2, which is situated to the left edge of the screen. This bunker, manned by a handful of Chechen and Uzbek fighters, also contains a heavy PKM machine gun, hand grenades, and rocket propelled grenades. John Chapman is shot twice at this time in the torso and collapses incapacitated.
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Okay. Tom, where can people get this whole video?
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Okay. The easiest thing for everyone to do, I would direct everybody, is to go to change.org, and you can just Google change.org John Chapman. You'll pull up his page. You will see the citation for his Medal of Honor. You will watch the IR footage. You can also just Google John Chapman IR footage, but I'd urge people to go to change.org and sign the petition. It just helps tremendously for the family and lends credence to making sure this guy is recognized for his heroic actions on that day. So it's the easiest place for them to go. It's 9 minutes and 40 seconds if you want to watch it. There are some forensic breakdowns online now that other operators have built that you can watch from a more mechanical standpoint to see how the helicopters, where they landed on the snow, how they engaged their targets. Some of the other guys that had to come up from way down from the bottom of the hill, they had to hike up an incredible hike to engage in the fight. It's just a story of so many great people, and it's frankly the best of America. You don't denigrate those SEALs. Those guys were up there. They're fighting for their lives. Several guys are wounded. Several are killed. There's Air Force guys killed. You know, and you just see the finest of America there, and you just have one thing here that is a little off-kilter, and it needs to be corrected. And I will tell you, Kim, I opened up the website for the museum this morning, and strangely enough, John Chapman is now posted on the front page of the website. And so I think what's happening nationwide – Because you've seen this crop up in Stars and Stripes now, Newsweek. I got a feedback from Fox and Friends. They're looking into it now. 60 Minutes. task and purpose air force times everybody is now this is much like i like i talked about with flags of our fathers it's finally coming to correction after 15 or 16 years and the frankly the naval department's going to have to man up and address this and make sure that it's right because it damages the navy seal brand if you're if you're engaged in this kind of malfeasance a lot of that happened too with with uh lone survivor with uh Marcus Latrell and the Navy got involved in that. And everybody understands that story. And you see some, you know, and the media is part of the military. It always has been. But, you know, you got to do the right thing. There's times when you just have to dust yourself off and the Navy's got to dust itself off and do the right thing. This is the first guy. In 20 years in the Air Force to get a Medal of Honor, it doesn't need to be denigrated. It needs to be corrected. And they need to be proud of that teammate they had with them. At that day up there, you might be a part of a different branch. Those guys always make fun of the Air Force guys saying all they do is talk Air Force. But they're all Americans. They're all in uniform. And they're fighting side by side. And to let the political side of this get in the way of something, and it tarnishes the Navy SEAL. And that's a terrible thing. We have to fix that. And I think you're seeing enough groundswell around the country to make this right that hopefully we'll get it corrected for this great warrior.
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Well, and Tom, you've been just really fervent in communicating with me on this because it's something you just, I think bottom line is you just want to make sure that a wrong is being righted, right? You want it to be corrected. And that is regarding this Medal of Honor Museum that is down in Arlington. You just want to make sure that that gets corrected, right?
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That is absolutely correct, Kim.
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Okay, well, we've got really just a little bit more time left on this. And so, again, your call to action for people, again, let people know what to do exactly. Okay, there's a couple things they can do, Kim.
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It's easy. They can email. They can go to mohmuseum.org. They can email us. sent an email of concern to that museum. I'm sure that from the change on the website right now, they're probably addressing this now. And a lot of people like me wouldn't have known the difference until you see the historical backside of this. And then, you know, average people could look at this and say, this is wrong. I've been watching the Delta guys and a lot of the old veterans that are operators saying, And frankly, I'm fortunate to know some of the operators very closely. And, you know, across all branches, even many of the Navy SEALs are upset over this. This is a wrong that needs to be righted. So they can go to the Medal of Honor Museum, mohmuseum.org, send them an email, go to thechange.org, John Chapman site, and read the citations for him and sign the petition and just help out this great warrior. I think, you know, this is posthumous for him, but it's for his family and it's for his legacy and his children.
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So, Tom Tarver, thank you so much, and thank you for caring about this, and thank you for coming on and sharing this. It is a very important story, and thank you. I just really appreciate it.
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You bet. We'll see you at TAPS on July 5th.
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Okay. Sounds great. And our quote for the end of the show is from John Locke, who said this, "...all mankind, being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions." So today, my friends, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Like if you want equality and all that stuff, slap. There's equality, girl. All right. I'm just saying, you know, I hate this where it's like, well, you can't hit me because that's sexism, but I can hit you all day long. Well, I'll talk more about this one in Florida Man tomorrow because it's kind of long. But yeah, that's why, especially when they're young, got to have a big sister come in and handle it. Kel-Tec, the PR-57. It is their rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7. Now, they changed concealed carry once before in 1995, and they kept doing it with their micro compact designs. Now it's with the five seven. So the, the PR 57 rotary barrel pistol is 40% lighter than the next five seven. So it's actually a realistic thing that you can, you can carry. I mean, it's, it's, and that's like how they, that's how they built and designed all of this. Like it's for when it matters most and low recoil for ease of use and accuracy. It's engineered for, I mean, the simplicity is incredibly innovative. So they have a unique top-loading design that replaces the traditional magazines with stripper clips for a slimmer carry profile, and you've got a 20-plus-1 capacity. So you know what? The left can actually say clips with this one instead of magazines because they make that mistake all the time anyway. MSRP is only $399. It's super affordable. This is one that you can absolutely afford, and you should get it. It's the first of its kind from Kel-Tec, the PR-57 Rotary Barrel Pistol. See it for yourself at keltecweapons.com. Innovation Performance, Keltec, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you. I don't know if you saw over the weekend. Who was it? Joy Reid. Her show's canceled. I feel like that's the show that's kind of the avatar for all Democrat commentary. And I don't feel like that's off base. Right. of a lot of leftist commentary is Joy Reid's show. And Joy Reid is just a miserable, miserable person. And I'm not even quite sure what the purpose of her content was. She didn't explain anything. She doesn't have, she never dives deep on a particular issue. She just sits there and spews invective. And that's pretty kind of, that's it. I don't know what she actually does or what commentary or coverage she actually provided that was in any way educational or enlightening. It just doesn't. None of her content was smart. It wasn't engaging. It was like an hour-long Maoist struggle session. And she screamed at everyone else. And she was just a pretty abrasive personality. And that network doesn't have a high bar anyway, but it was still embarrassing. Because that's all it was. And her commentary wasn't any different on television than it was when she was holding her camera, looking at herself when she's sitting in her house. I don't know. And her ratings were horrific. So this is kind of my point. Her ratings were so bad. The network is dealing with crisis after crisis. So the network president, Rebecca Cutler, apparently they were addressing she was addressing addressing the staffers of I didn't even know what's her fate. Joy Reid show was called the read out. Really? Yeah. According to Status News, Cutler told staff we're waiting to get a response from Joy and her team about how she would like, you know, to handle some of these things. And we want to defer to her on this. She apparently hasn't said any. She's been quiet on TikTok. I don't think she said anything on social media, has she? Yeah, I don't think she said anything on social media. But their ratings were in the toilet. They're not attracting viewers. I don't even know how you sell ads based on the ratings that she had. So MSNBC total during the hours of 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time, they barely managed an audience of 734,000. We have more listeners than that regularly. Like we have, from digitally and terrestrially, we have several million listeners, actually more than several, every day. CNN, get this, at the same time slot, from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern, CNN barely managed to net 522,000 viewers. That's Unbelievable to me. How do you sell ads on that? I was thinking, I'm like, how in the world are you selling? I don't even know what their ad rates are, but I can imagine that they're pretty expensive. Nobody, the advertisers are looking at that thinking, well, what is the return on the investment of our ads, our ad dollars for this?
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She was earning $3 million a year. Oh my gosh. So if her show was not generating at least that much, she's unfortunately a liability and a negative.
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We have at a minimum seven times her audience every day. Every day. And we work with our different affiliates and we track things digitally, etc. So we have a pretty good idea based on hard data of our audience. We have actually over seven times that. She made $3 million. Your girl didn't make $3 million. I'm not complaining. I'm happy. But I'm just saying for the purpose of showcasing how tone deaf MSNBC is, that's pretty crazy.
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Back in December, they actually did a salary cut for some of their larger earners.
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Yeah, they had, oh, what's her face? Maddow, right? Yeah, she had a big pay cut and that was big news.
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Yeah, I think Joyless got a pay cut as well.
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So think about this. People aren't wanting to watch. And those are the – they don't want to watch it. And those are the places that everybody knows. Even if you're not super into politics, you know Fox is right-leaning. MSNBC is left-leaning. CNN is left-leaning. CNN, I think for the optic of being able to say that they have conservatives or independents, they – I would say aren't as far left as MSNBC, but they're still pretty left. And that's not a rescue. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying here. I'm not saying that they're not left or that they're soft on. They're super far left. But when you watch MSNBC, it's like Mao came back from the dead and programmed them. I can't even for purposes for the show to talk about their content. I can't sit and watch it. I'm like, if there's clips, we'll do that. I just cannot. I can't watch it. It's so heinous. So I'm not surprised with this. But I don't know how that network stays and does what it does. A friend of mine was telling me their ad buys, their ad rates aren't as expensive as Fox's. are uh but they're still pricey obviously especially for that prime time slot this is the kind of stuff she did so audio somebody 21 no one no one on the left thinks this except for her listen
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I mean, this really was an historic, flawlessly run campaign. Oh, my gosh, what? She never endorses anyone. She came out and endorsed us. You know, I mean, she had every prominent celebrity voice. She had the Taylor Swifties, the Swifties.
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See, that's what accounts for flawless to her.
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You could not have run a better campaign in that short period of time.
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Actually, you could have. In fact, you could have not only run a better campaign, you could have run a better candidate and your party could have done everything better. I mean, that's just... Who says stuff like that? When you come out, even if you're on the left, and you are bailing out a candidate to such a degree that you're debasing yourself in the face of reality, people don't want to believe you. And you lose stature in their minds. Why do they seek out your... analysis on something if you're just going to blow smoke up their backside you know and as Kane noted I don't know their their whole approach to programming is call everyone who doesn't think exactly like them Nazis and racists and sexists even if you're a person of your color you know for minority and you're a conservative oh my gosh you're a Nazi racist sexist It doesn't matter what your skin color is. That's just how it applies to you. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. That's the URL you need to save for forever because you can get 10% off And you unlock that with promo code Dana by visiting specifically that URL. So All Family Pharmacy, I've used them before. I will get medications that I need, especially if I'm traveling and I need something quickly. I can get it from All Family Pharmacy. It's simple, it's fast, and it's affordable. And all of their medications are made right here in the US of A, ensuring high standards of quality and safety. So you're not getting Chinese medicine overseen by the CCP. This is all USA stuff. They provide the prescriptions you need, so you don't even have to involve your doctor if you don't want to. It's healthcare on your terms. They have customizable orders, emergency kits tailored to your needs, and you order from the comfort of home. Everything is like, what, in two to four days, but you can also get stuff overnighted if you are in a pinch, as I was over Thanksgiving, because your girl was getting strep And it was really tough and I had to get that taken care of fast because I was hosting and nobody wants to have a hostess that has strep throat. That's horrible. So make sure you save this website, allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. They have over 200 essential medications, including ivermectin too, by the way. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Unlock your 10% discount on your whole order with promo code Dana10. Again, that's Dana10 at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So remember how I was talking about with Matt Mowers and Zelensky, and then we brought up the debt and all of that stuff and the money that, you know, how much did it stand? Like basically $100 billion. Well, apparently Zelensky says, with all due respect, we do not recognize Ukraine's $500 billion debt to the U.S. What? I'm sorry, what? What? Yeah. Okay, we'll come back to that. We're going to come back to that now. Yeah, we'll come back to it. How small can a tiny home get? Stupid size. Yeah. So somebody is excited that they built the world's smallest house. It's a cabinet for a person. It's not a small house. It's like the size of an outhouse.
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It's a coffin with a roof.
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Yeah, you know what? That is it. It is a coffin. It's 19 square feet. How do you sleep in it? 19 square feet. When you walk into it, it's literally a bench and then one counter. That's it. The guy can't even stand up straight in it. You're in a little, that's like a dollhouse. That's not a tiny house. That's a shed. That's a he shed. Sir, that's a shed. This guy's bragging. You know what? I'm saving this for tomorrow because I hate tiny houses so bad. If my hate was an energy, it would destroy them like the sun. I hate them that bad. I'm coming back to this and I have a reason why. A tourist leaning out of his train for a selfie hit a rock. People, this 53-year-old woman was traveling on Sri Lanka's iconic Poti Maniki line, and then she was literally hanging out of the train to get a selfie and hit a rock. what no she's dead it the rock hit her to death like as she was just slap and it dead why stop it stop falling into canyons stop fall and hitting stuff with your head on trains just stop it's sad and that what is so frustrating is that this is preventable Stop it. In Australia, if the animals don't kill you, the dirt will. Apparently, people are dying from a soil-borne disease after flooding in one area. This is coming from Australian media. Channel 9 News in Australia. It's in far north Queensland. Two people yesterday. One person kicked the bucket last week. 21 cases total. I don't even know if I'm saying this right. Meliodiosius. Meliodiosius. I don't know. It's a serious infectious disease caused by soil bacteria in northern Australia. It enters into broken skin or contaminated water and it can cause pneumonia. And it's a tropical disease. And it's from a bacteria called Burkholder. And it's found in like Southeast Asia and northern Australia. And it's gross. It's just gross stuff in the dirt. So stop. Stop touching dirt. Just it's like Australia is like the Florida of the world on roids. Like I said, I didn't watch the SAG award stuff. I didn't watch any of that. Jane, we were talking about Hanoi Jane a little earlier who went up. This is audio soundbite 25. She went up and she was ranting about Trump and then she talked about I don't think she knows what empathy is. Go ahead and play this. Make no mistake, empathy is not weak or woke. And by the way, woke just means you give a damn about other people. No, it doesn't. That's not what it means, Jane, but that's okay. I'm not going to have like the woman who gave aid and comfort to the enemy during the Vietnam War sit here and lecture everybody else as to what is or is not empathy. Please, Barbarella. We're not doing that. Nobody's going to sit here and get lectured by you of all people about that. But she went up, and I don't know why. She says that Hollywood needs to fight these fraught times with empathy. So what they believe, they believe empathy is calling, again, everyone who doesn't think exactly like you, racist, sexist, Nazi. That's their idea of empathy. Because they said, oh, we have to, you know, tell she said in her full remarks, she's like, we're actors. We create empathy. You know, we have to understand other humans so profoundly so we can touch their souls. I don't know. Maybe they tugged on her brain too hard when they were lifting her face up out of her breasts. I don't know. But, you know, come on. Nobody believes this. And then she goes on this spiel about Trump and people who voted for Trump, etc., Go back and look at how the left ran off the normies. That's when they lost this election and they lost the fight in society because people don't want to be around somebody who bitches and moans all the time. You guys know, like, negative people drain you. They drain you. I cannot stand super negative people. I don't have nothing to do with them. They're energy vampires. They drain you. And that's how the Democrat Party is. It's an energy vampire. They just drain you. Everything is somebody else's problem that they didn't have anything to do with, even if they did. There's no accountability. There's no culpability unless it's something they think that they can use to their advantage. There's no consistency. And the stuff that they focus on. I've been saying this since 2016, even before then. You know, I remember when I was covering the election election in 2016 and I'm in New York and I was kind of I can't remember who it was. I was going back with a Democrat operative. And he was just he was saying that his his argument was that, well, Trump just might be a little better at messaging to blue collar. And I interrupted him at some point. I think Mike Huckabee was sitting in between us. And I remember saying to the effect, he just looked shocked. I'm like, that's not it. That is not it. The problem is, is that you guys forgot what it's like for the average everyday person. You guys have no idea what regular people are dealing with. They have no idea how people are struggling when they go and buy groceries. They have no idea how people are trying to figure out, okay, well, what am I going to pick in life? Am I going to pick to pay my health care bills? Am I going to pay my help with my sick parents? Because now we're seeing more and more people in the sandwich generation. Are we going to pay for a kid's college or trade school or something like that? I mean, they're trying to figure out how they're going to be able to sustain themselves, raise their kids, care for their parents. They're in a bit of a pickle. And Democrats have done nothing but call everybody names and bitch about Trump. And they've done that since 2016. And I remember sitting there that election telling this this operative, I'm like, this is what your whole campaign has been about, has been about how much you dislike Trump. People can't eat on that. They can't balance their checkbook on that. They can't pay their mortgage on that. They can't send their kids to college on that. They can't get a job on that. They can't retire on that. So how about you get something substantial and maybe reconfigure your party platform and try running on actual issues instead of bitching and moaning? And they were just shocked. I remember that there was just like when we went. Gosh, I'm trying to remember. I haven't seen him too much. But when we went back to the green room on break because they brought us out in panels, he didn't say anything to me. I don't think he liked my answer too much. Well, that's not my damn problem. That's your problem. And you still got it.
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General Brown is and has been for many, many years. He has a 40-year career in the military. Nobody has found any fault with him because of his skin color. He has been declared DEI awoke.
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Is that why you think the president has let him go, because he's black?
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Can the left at any point? Can they just at any point stop with it's not us? It's racism, sexism, ism, ism. I mean, all weekend. And there were a couple I have a couple of examples of this. But over the weekend, I kept seeing this stuff, this nonsense, too. I kept seeing the same exact nonsense. Well, it's because of race. They're not going to get it. They're not going to get it. And because they're not going to get it there, I don't see how you have a successful party. I really I just don't. I don't see how you have a party that's successful and they can't. remedy the problems not just with their message the problems with their policy and then as a result the problems of their their messaging with that and it's the only person that i have heard that's actually discussed anything around that is i gosh i can't believe i'm saying his name twice in a two-week period pray for me it's his name rhymes with shmames marvel But he's but but he actually wants the Democrats to succeed where I just want to point out how they're wrong and they're never going to. I don't want them to succeed because this is bad for everybody. So I like people and people like James Clyburn, too. I mean, that's really rich for him to say, because James Clyburn was the guy who said that in order. Remember, Joe Biden got into the White House because James Clyburn. made a deal with him and said, okay, well, if you're going to do this, if you're going to run for office and I'm going to back you and I'm going to save South Carolina for you, you're going to have to have a woman of color be on your ticket. That was like a huge understanding. Everybody knows this. Welcome to the show. It's Monye. I'm briefly in kind of a good mood, briefly. I'm not really super Daria today because Kane, it's 59 degrees outside. It's going to start getting towards a non-Arctic temperature soon. I'm tired of getting emails from my most beloved amongst you asking me if there are any turtlenecks left on God's green earth or did I buy them all? The answer is yes, I did buy them all. Everyone's like, how many turtlenecks do you have? I have four black ones. That's just the black ones. The gray, which is the color to me, I have other ones. You guys don't understand how cold it gets in the studio. We could do a whole segment on that. So welcome. It's somewhat warm. For now. Well, notice how we're not all enthusiastic about that. You can follow along everything. Substack. There's a lot of good stuff that goes out there on the reg. Lorraine has a piece up that just ran this morning about Eric Adams and some very interesting information about Eric Adams. Democrats hate him now until they don't. And then, of course, the chat over at Rumble. And then you have the 347 DirecTV. I almost keep forgetting it as however often we do it. I constantly forget the numbers. So over the weekend, actually, I think it went out Friday, but the dust up happened over the weekend. So you had 2000 workers fired. This is all they're all government people. If you didn't even know that there were 2000 people at a certain department, does it does it really matter if they were fired? Right. I mean, if you don't know. I don't know. So all those people have been put on leave. This is all USAID staffers, domestic USAID staffers all around the world. In fact, the employees were trying to file suit to temporarily block. They actually thought they were going to block the executive from using his authority in his office within the scope of his power. Really? We voted for him to do this. So That happened on Sunday. So on Sunday, that is when it became official. It all kicked off. All these people were put on temporary leave. So they're all livid. And they have people who refuse to do their job. Now, in addition to that, you had this email that went out from, well, it was something that Elon Musk had tweeted. He tweeted this, and apparently this was sent to pretty much every federal worker. Wasn't this like Friday towards the end of the day that this went out? But the drama didn't really start to like Friday night and Saturday. So the issue with this is that Elon Musk sent out this tweet, and then this letter went out wherein he was, I guess he's sending this out through his doge dudes, the doge boys. It sounds like a Duran Duran video, does it not? He was sending out this... They sent out an email asking government employees, well, what is it that you've done? Like, what did you accomplish this week? What is it that you accomplished this week? Which seems like a fairly innocuous thing to ask, right? I'm pulling this tweet up right now, but Safari is being a butthap. So... He said, consistent with Trump's instructions, POTUS's instructions, all federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to understand what they got done last week. Failure to respond will be taken as a resignation. Now, I really, before I go further into this, two things. I'm actually, I have to say. I'm actually shocked that there was any pushback even amongst conservatives. Tell me I'm not the only one that saw that, right? Weren't there some conservatives pushing back against that? Did I miss something, Kane? Give me some kind of libertarian, conservative attack on this. I don't get it. What am I missing? I was done doom scrolling through X trying to understand the reasoning.
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It was mostly heartstrings about losing income, but they have like a six or eight month severance. It's not like we're just yanking their paychecks.
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But the way that some people on the... And I came to some people on the right. The way that they were saying this was that, how would you like it if your superior sent you an email saying, can you tell me some of the things that you got done last week? Am I... okay, I just need to do a temperature check because it's been a weird weekend. I'm not out of touch, right? Because I'm used to that. And in fact, I don't even wait for an email. I will voluntarily tell everyone, this is what happened. You laugh because he knows it's true. What's the big deal with that? What am I missing?
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There seems to be a general hatred for accountability. I don't know.
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Did they not work? Like, is it?
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Yeah, they didn't.
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Are these the TikTok people that, you know, did the song, you know, five foot three in an attitude, five foot three. Are these those people that are mad about this? I'm just really I'm having help us. I'm trying to really figure this out because I kept seeing. These. I'm actually, I saved some of them. I don't want to name, I don't want to fight with that because some of them are friends of mine. And I was actually kind of, I'll be honest, I was a little surprised. Like, can you believe that, you know, yeah, I understand why they would be upset over this. Like they thought it was impertinent for anyone, for a superior to ask you what you've done. I don't know. I just... I don't think that that's beyond the... I don't think that that's in any... I don't think it's bad to ask. I don't think it's inappropriate to ask. I mean, I'm just kind of shocked that people who work for a living, some of them apparently think that they are not expected to tell their superiors what it is that they did during the week. And it's like they feel... Are they mad because it's Musk asking? Because it's not really Musk asking. Apparently, it's something Trump asked Musk to do. So what's the problem? Now... Here's where it gets weirder, all right? And I'm trying to interpret this. Now, the reason I'm approaching this so, how do I say this, in an unorthodox fashion is because I'm very sensitive to giving the media openings for division. I don't want them to seize upon something and think that this is a great thing to push for division. Now, saying that, there are already, and I'm pulling this up, You have Kash Patel and apparently Tulsi Gabbard who are not doing the emails. So Kash Patel was the first who apparently per I have three sources here and they're all different. Two of them are conservative. One is Politico. I told you everything right there. One of them says Patel has grown, has joined a growing list of department heads who have told their employees to ignore the request from Doge. Gabbard sent a message to officials in her department saying, quote, given the inherently sensitive and classified nature of our work, I see employees should not respond to the OPM email. Secretary of State Rubio, SecDef Hegseth, by the way, does that not, how nice does that sound? SecDef Hegseth, I can't even say it. That should be like a challenge. Say it five times fast. He and DHS have also told their employees to disregard them. Now, there's a couple of different ways to look at this. You could look at it as, okay, you understand that some of these departments are dealing with sensitive information, right? I mean, that's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is maybe they are wanting to do this internally and they don't – maybe they don't need Doge to do it. I don't know. But I'm not necessarily given in following the leftist narrative on this in that, oh, these people – they're trying to make it seem – as though there is a divide between Trump's picks and Trump and Musk, and they're trying to play up any and all of this. So I'm really hesitant. And then you have... I mean, there's just there's so much of this. Those are the departments. I can understand, you know, if it's DNI and that. Right. I totally get some of that because it probably is some classified information and you would have to go through that process in order to be able to access it. I get it. We're going to talk more about this because. Mark my words, the media is going to follow this and make it a huge thing. I feel like they're simmering it now. Then you also have the budget battle, the ongoing budget battle, which we're going to continue to follow. And is our government going to shut down? You know, we do have a deadline coming up in March as well. So we're going to get into all of that. Also, I didn't watch the Screen Actors Guild Awards because I have a pulse. And they brought up – who did they bring up? That old relic, Hanoi Jane. I'm going to tell you, nobody dislikes Hanoi Jane more than the Vietnam vets in my family. Oh, my gosh. Not to sound like Joseph Joestar from Stardust Crusaders there for a second, but oh, my gosh. It's so – she decided to make a speech where she railed at POTUS from the SAG stage. appropriately named. We're going to discuss all of that and more. We got a lot to hit today as we get you set up for the week. And as we move, history shows gold and silver thrive under strong leadership. During President Trump's first term, gold surged 53 percent and silver soared 51 percent. With him back, could precious metals break new records in 2025 and beyond? In times of economic uncertainty, smart investors turn to assets that have proven their worth. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Gosh, see, this is when I wish we could just, like, roll through tracks for our bumper tracks, because I really feel like that song is a vibe today. Roberta Flack, the Grammy-winning singer known for Killing Me Softly with her song, has passed away at age 88. So you know what this means, guys. My grandmother, Granny Skaggs' rule of three. Who else is going to kick the bucket? Taking bets now. If you want to contribute, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but when you grow up with a super superstitious granny who lived and died by threes. This is something that you're just like groomed to look for, right? I don't know how else to put it. So Roberta Flack, age 88. So now who else? That's the way to see it. So this is interesting. This is a Newsweek piece. I don't know. I didn't deep dive into this. I'll be honest about it. But there's this headline saying that violent crime committed by women has soared in California. I actually believe it because I think a lot of women, especially with the empowerment of the matriarchy, I think, I don't know, I think women are more aggressive now than they ever were, and I think a lot of it's diet, if I'm being really frank about it. But they said that traditionally, violent crime has been overwhelmingly male-dominated, but now women are more and more actually the aggressors in violent crimes. Yay, look, ladies, you achieved equality. Great job. I knew you were going for number one for something. Is that too mean? I'm going to come back to that headline. Is that too mean? Because it's not. It really doesn't feel like that to me. Orlando could start to resemble the Jetsons with flying cars from the airport site as soon as 2028. I can't think of anything worse. I can't. Have you seen people drive? Look, Florida, I love you to death, but y'all can't drive, nor can the people in Texas. No, I'm not defending nobody. The only people who could actually drive well are Missourians. I really do believe it. There's something about Missourians that they just, they're fearless, but yet they have some caution, just enough to stay alive. So anyway, they're trying to do these flying cars like Jetson style from the Orlando International Airport. Would you get on that? They said that the landing pad for the car is called a vertiport. And they're looking at March 2028 for the finished service. That does avoid gators. I will say, when you're in the air, there's no chance you're going to encounter a gator. So I'm actually intrigued. Apple is going to spend $500 billion. They're expanding. They're also going to hire 20,000 new American workers at an AI factory in Texas soon. They're trying to beat Trump's China tariffs. Very interesting. We have a lot more on the way, including MSNBC has a new lineup. Huh. Interesting. We'll talk about that. Tax Network USA understands what it's like dealing with a thugocracy. That is the government. I mean, the IRS. and they want to help you deal with it because the irs has just been more emboldened under the previous network or the previous administration they've been sending all these pay up notices i mean y'all know i they're they're i mean there's a reason why stereotypes exist because they're true right so getting ahead of everything is the smart move but never do it alone this is why you need the team at tax network usa not all tax resolution companies are the same and that's evident in the fact that the team at Tax Network USA has resolved over a billion dollars in tax debt. They have delivered real results for their clients nationwide. Whether or not you owe 10,000 or 10 million, Tax Network USA's tailored strategies are designed to settle your tax issues in your favor. They have a preferred direct line to the IRS, meaning they know which agents to deal with and which ones to avoid. These are risk-free solutions. It can be really stressful dealing with them. So you want to protect your financial security with guidance from pros who've been there and done that repeatedly. Stop the threatening letters. Stop looking over your shoulder. Protect yourself from property seizures and bank levies. It's free. Schedule a complimentary consultation. It's free to do this. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com today. slash Dana. Don't let the IRS's aggressive tactics control your future. TNUSA.com slash Dana.
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But what I've said very publicly, Democrats need to play possum. This whole thing is collapsing. It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren and somebody screaming to pacify some progressive advocacy groups in Washington, which, by the way, I wish these people were just useless. They're actually worse than useless, that they're detrimental. And they never, ever learned to shut up.
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One of the things that I find most fascinating about that little discussion with Dan Abrams and James Carville is that Abrams people never once asked James Carville, will you please set your camera up to where we're not looking up your nose? That would be amazing. I mean, he's like sitting on a sofa looking down. And I think they're just happy to, like, get the conversation so they didn't, you know, they didn't want to let good be the enemy of, or perfect be the enemy of good. So they just didn't tell him to adjust it. Is that bothering anybody else the whole time? Because I'm sitting there looking at this like, what in the world? Welcome back. Dana Lynch with you, bottom of this first hour. The chat's over at Rumble. And, of course, we're Channel 347, DirecTV, all that good stuff. I hear some of the stuff that Democrats have been saying. Where's the thing that I had over the weekend? I'm pulling this up. Because I don't think they've learned. And to that point, do they have a party? I mean, who is theoretically? There's always a party leader, right? So who is the party leader? Do they have one? Very curious. Just don't know. I mean, I don't know who they have. And then their talking heads don't do well in representing them. You had Eric Swalwell over the weekend. He said that his response to... The Doge letter was, he repeated it five times. I fought fascism. I fought fascism. And I'm like, by being the fascist, that doesn't even make any sense. Nobody believes that you actually did anything like that. I don't know. I feel as though people who watch television and who get into, who follow along with a cable news commentary, I kind of feel like they're revolting in a way. I don't know if you saw over the weekend. Who was it? Joy Reid. Her show's canceled. I feel like that's the show that's kind of the avatar for all Democrat commentary. And I don't feel like that's off base. Right. Can't wouldn't you say that that is pretty representative of the tone and the depth of of a lot of leftist commentary is Joy Reid's show. And Joy Reid is just a miserable, miserable person. And I'm not even quite sure what the purpose of her content was. She didn't explain anything. She doesn't have, she never dives deep on a particular issue. She just sits there and spews invective. And that's pretty kind of, that's it. I don't know what she actually does or what commentary or coverage she actually provided that was in any way educational or enlightening. It just doesn't. None of her content was smart. It wasn't engaging. It was like an hour-long Maoist struggle session. And she screamed at everyone else. And she was just a pretty abrasive personality. And that network doesn't have a high bar anyway, but it was still embarrassing. Because that's all it was. And her commentary wasn't any different on television than it was when she was holding her camera, looking at herself when she's sitting in her house. I don't know. And her ratings were horrific. So this is kind of my point. Her ratings were so bad. The network is dealing with crisis after crisis. So the network president, Rebecca Cutler, apparently they were addressing she was addressing addressing the staffers of I didn't even know what's her fate. Joy Reid show is called the read out. Really? According to Status News, Cutler told staff we're waiting to get a response from Joy and her team about how she would like, you know, to handle some of these things. And we want to defer to her on this. She apparently hasn't said any. She's been quiet on TikTok. I don't think she said anything on social media, has she? Yeah, I don't think she said anything on social media. But their ratings were in the toilet. They're not attracting viewers. I don't even know how you sell ads based on the ratings that she had. So MSNBC total during the hours of 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern time, they barely managed an audience of 734,000. We have more listeners than that regularly. Like we have, from digitally and terrestrially, we have several million listeners, actually more than several, every day. CNN, get this, at the same time slot, from 8 to 11 p.m. Eastern, CNN barely managed to net 522,000 viewers. That's Unbelievable to me. How do you sell ads on that? I was thinking, I'm like, how in the world are you selling? I don't even know what their ad rates are, but I can imagine that they're pretty expensive. Nobody, the advertisers are looking at that thinking, well, what is the return on the investment of our ads, our ad dollars for this?
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She was earning $3 million a year. Oh my gosh. So if her show was not generating at least that much, she's unfortunately a liability and a negative.
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We have at a minimum seven times her audience every day. Every day. And we work with our different affiliates and we track things digitally, etc. So we have a pretty good idea based on hard data of our audience. We have actually over seven times that. She made $3 million. Your girl doesn't make $3 million. I'm not complaining. I'm happy. But I'm just saying for the purpose of showcasing how tone deaf MSNBC is, that's pretty crazy.
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Back in December, they actually did a salary cut for some of their larger earners.
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Yeah, they had, oh, what's her face? Maddow, right? Yeah, she had a big pay cut and that was big news.
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Yeah, I think Joyless got a pay cut as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
So think about this. People aren't wanting to watch. And those are the – they don't want to watch it. And those are the places that everybody knows. Even if you're not super into politics, you know Fox is right-leaning. MSNBC is left-leaning. CNN is left-leaning. CNN, I think for the optic of being able to say that they have conservatives or independents, they – I would say aren't as far left as MSNBC, but they're still pretty left. And that's not a rescue. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying here. I'm not saying that they're not left or that they're soft on. They're super far left. But when you watch MSNBC, it's like Mao came back from the dead and programmed them. I can't even for purposes for the show to talk about their content. I can't sit and watch it. I'm like, if there's clips, we'll do that. I just cannot. I can't watch it. It's so heinous. So I'm not surprised with this. But I don't know how that network stays and does what it does. A friend of mine was telling me their ad buys, their ad rates aren't as expensive as Fox's. are uh but they're still pricey obviously especially for that prime time slot this is the kind of stuff she did so audio somebody 21 no one no one on the left thinks this except for her listen
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I mean, this really was an historic, flawlessly run campaign. Oh, my gosh. We want Tifa never endorses anyone. She came out and endorsed us. You know, I mean, she had every prominent celebrity voice. She had the Taylor Swifties. See, that's what accounts for flawless to her. You could not have run a better campaign in that short period of time.
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Actually, you could have. In fact, you could have not only run a better campaign, you could have run a better candidate and your party could have done everything better. I mean, that's just... Who says stuff like that? When you come out, even if you're on the left, and you are bailing out a candidate to such a degree that you're debasing yourself in the face of reality, people don't want to believe you. And you lose stature in their minds. Why do they seek out your... analysis on something if you're just going to blow smoke up their backside you know and as Kane noted I don't know their their whole approach to programming is call everyone who doesn't think exactly like them Nazis and racists and sexists even if you're a person of your color you know for a minority and you're a conservative oh my gosh you're a Nazi racist sexist doesn't matter what your skin color is that's just how it applies to you So a couple of other, I'm going to move on and get some of this other stuff in. So let's see. All right. So I, like I said, I didn't watch the SAG award stuff. I didn't watch any of that. Jane, we were talking about Hanoi Jane a little earlier who went up, this is audio soundbite 25. She went up and she was ranting about Trump. And then she talked about, I don't think she knows what empathy is. Go ahead and play this. Make no mistake, empathy is not weak or woke. And by the way, woke just means you give a damn about other people. No, it doesn't. That's not what it means, Jane, but that's okay. I'm not going to have like the woman who gave aid and comfort to the enemy during the Vietnam War sit here and lecture everybody else as to what is or is not empathy. Please, Barbarella. We're not doing that. Nobody's going to sit here and get lectured by you of all people about that. But she went up, and I don't know why. She says that Hollywood needs to fight these fraught times with empathy. So what they believe, they believe empathy is calling, again, everyone who doesn't think exactly like you, racist, sexist, Nazi. That's their idea of empathy. Because they said, oh, we have to, you know, tell she said in her full remarks, she's like, we're actors. We create empathy. You know, we have to understand other humans so profoundly so we can touch their souls. I don't know. Maybe they tugged on her brain too hard when they were lifting her face up out of her breasts. I don't know. But, you know, come on. Nobody believes this. And then she goes on this spiel about Trump and people who voted for Trump, etc., Go back and look at how the left ran off the normies. That's when they lost this election and they lost the fight in society because people don't want to be around somebody who bitches and moans all the time. You guys know, like, negative people drain you. They drain you. I cannot stand super negative people. I don't have nothing to do with them. They're energy vampires. They drain you. And that's how the Democrat Party is. It's an energy vampire. They just drain you. Everything is somebody else's problem that they didn't have anything to do with, even if they did. There's no accountability. There's no culpability unless it's something they think that they can use to their advantage. There's no consistency. And the stuff that they focus on. I've been saying this since 2016, even before then. You know, I remember when I was covering the election election in 2016 and I'm in New York and I was kind of I can't remember who it was. I was going back with a Democrat operative. And he was just he was saying that his his argument was that, well, Trump just might be a little better at messaging to blue collar. And I interrupted him at some point. I think Mike Huckabee was sitting in between us. And I remember saying to the effect, he just looked shocked. I'm like, that's not it. That is not it. The problem is, is that you guys forgot what it's like for the average everyday person. You guys have no idea what regular people are dealing with. They have no idea how people are struggling when they go and buy groceries. They have no idea how people are trying to figure out, okay, well, what am I going to pick in life? Am I going to pick to pay my healthcare bills? Am I going to pay my help with my sick parents? Because now we're seeing more and more people in the sandwich generation. Are we going to pay for a kid's college or trade school or something like that? I mean, they're trying to figure out how they're going to be able to sustain themselves, raise their kids, care for their parents. They're in a bit of a pickle. And Democrats have done nothing but call everybody names and bitch about Trump. And they've done that since 2016. And I remember sitting there that election telling this this operative, I'm like, this is what your whole campaign has been about, has been about how much you dislike Trump. People can't eat on that. They can't balance their checkbook on that. They can't pay their mortgage on that. They can't send their kids to college on that. They can't get a job on that. They can't retire on that. So how about you get something substantial and maybe reconfigure your party platform and try running on actual issues instead of bitching and moaning? And they were just shocked. I remember that there was just like, when we went, gosh, I'm trying to remember. I haven't seen him too much. But when we went back to the green room on break, because they brought us out in panels, he didn't say anything to me. I don't think he liked my answer too much. Well, that's not my damn problem. That's your problem. And you still got it. And it's worse than it was before. 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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States. These people are just idiots.
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I really, you know, I'm at the point where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people because the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single day, it's frankly embarrassing, not just um in in congress but as as americans and the fact that these people are allowed to say just the the most ridiculous things uh tells you that the the dumbing of the united states has arrived because that were allowed to say things like why did you marry your brother because you did like that stuff like that
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I mean, she's part of this problem. I mean, she's part of the problem. One of the reasons why the left can't have decent conversations is because of stuff like because the stuff that she says and the stuff that she does. So that's pretty rich trying to throw that back on everybody else. Goodness. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Man, the left is not happy about Kash Patel. Why do they hate brown people, man? Why is the left so racist? No, these are the rules, suckers. We're going by your rules. You don't get to change them now. Oh, hell, H-A-I-L, no. We do not get to change or not. Why is the left so racist? Why do they hate brown people? Why? Kash Patel, head of FBI. The left is like apoplectic because he is a person of color. And remember, the left thinks that they own every minority, whether it's like a sexual orientation thing or skin color or whatever. They think that by way of not being a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, that you are owned by the left. So they still practice modern day slavery, even if it's just, you know, they can't enforce it. It's just that they have to be content with it being ideological now. But that's the left. I mean, I don't know. I keep seeing their reactions. You guys realize this. They don't. That's not helping them. What is the left doing? That's not helping them. The stuff that I see them saying about Kash Patel, it doesn't make sense. What is their... Okay, they don't like him because he's conservative. You really can test how... morally deficient someone is on the left when you see their inconsistency about this kind of stuff where their only objection to somebody like hash patel is that he is a conservative minority he's he's indian and he's a conservative or at least on the right i don't know if he's conservative he's on the right at least Just saying. We got a lot to hit. The Colony Ridge, you guys know that whole thing. We've talked about this before, actually, for quite a while. Apparently, they're now... Texas is now going after Colony Ridge. That was the whole... What would you call like a prefab like or a fabricated neighborhood that they were just like entirely creating for illegal immigrants? We're going to discuss that and more. Stick with us. Second hour on the way. Love this website. All family pharmacy dot com slash Dana. That's the URL you need to save for forever because you can get 10 percent off. And you unlock that with promo code Dana by visiting specifically that URL. So All Family Pharmacy, I've used them before. I will get medications that I need, especially if I'm traveling and I need something quickly. I can get it from All Family Pharmacy. It's simple, it's fast, and it's affordable. And all of their medications are made right here in the U.S. of A., ensuring high standards of quality and safety. So you're not getting Chinese medicine overseen by the CCP. This is all USA stuff. They provide the prescriptions you need, so you don't even have to involve your doctor if you don't want to. It's healthcare on your terms. They have customizable orders, emergency kits tailored to your needs, and you order from the comfort of home. Everything is like, what, in two to four days, but you can also get stuff overnighted if you are in a pinch, as I was over Thanksgiving, because your girl was getting strep And it was really tough. And I had to get that taken care of fast because I was hosting and nobody wants to have a hostess that has strep throat. That's horrible. So make sure you save this website, allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. They have over 200 essential medications, including ivermectin too, by the way. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Unlock your 10% discount on your whole order with promo code Dana10. Again, that's Dana10 at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana.
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I just want to tell you a little story. So we were at the Eiffel Tower having dinner with your wonderful wife and with my wonderful wife and we came out and he started speaking the French deal. And we didn't have an interpreter and he was going on and on and on and I was just nodding, yes, yes, yes. And he really sold me out because I got back the next day and I read the papers and I said, that's not what we said. He's a smart customer, I will tell you that. That wasn't exactly what we agreed to.
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That is a very interesting exchange between Trump and Macron for a number of reasons. Welcome back. Dana Lash with you, top of the second hour, 347 Direct TV, also the chats at Rumble. Make sure you check out the podcast too, the archives. The reason why I kept watching it, I think the... the viewing of it is more important than the hearing of it because it's standard boiler, you know, just boilerplate. Like, oh, it's, you know, great. Trump is, you know, he's being a gracious host and Emmanuel Macron's sitting there, sitting there awkwardly. Now, I love reading people's body language, and particularly in instances like this. Whenever you have these Oval Office get-togethers and you have these foreign leaders sitting there with POTUS, it's very fascinating to watch. So let's start with Trump. Trump sits like this regularly. He is not I'm going to sit back and cross my legs kind of guy. You know what I mean? I'm not making fun of dudes who do that. But he is not the kind of guy who leans back in the chair and He just doesn't sit like that. He sits up. He's usually, you know, ramrod straight back, sits up. It's like he's always conscious of how his jacket fits him. Have you ever noticed that with Trump? It's like he's very conscious about how his jacket fits. And he does that posture where he kind of rests his hands on his knees, right? And I went back and I was looking at some of the stuff with Macron. I don't ever recall him sitting like this, but he's mirroring Trump's language in this clip. He's sitting there and Macron is mirroring how Trump is sitting. So Macron is immediately taking... The I guess you could say a beta position by mirroring Trump's language. And then he puts his hands together in this. I think he's aware of what he's doing because it looks unnatural. Like when Trump does it, it just kind of looks natural. Right. Macron's hands, they look weird. He's trying to do the power steeple move. So I remember in college and I actually had to take one of these classes. I went in for journalism for crying out loud journalism and political science. And it was very interesting how that because we spent like an inordinate amount of time on body language. So when someone feels confident or they feel like they're in an advantageous position, and this is particularly insightful for boardroom stuff. You got to look at how they're sitting and look at what they're doing with their hands. So the steeple move where one or all of the fingers, the hands are together and then they make this peak is considered a power position for hands. And Trump does it naturally. I mean, he's relaxed. He's like sitting forward, but yet his back is still straight. And Macron is kind of awkward. Look at his jacket. If you're watching the simulcast, his jacket's kind of just, it looks weird on him. His pants even look kind of weird. It looks like they're bunched up a bit. Look at his sleeves in comparison with how Trump's sleeves are. And maybe I'm diving too deep into this. But I've seen other things, like especially when they first greet each other. Macron often waits a beat and kind of waits to see what Trump does and lets Trump take the lead on the tone and how he wants to greet him. And then Macron follows. You could say, well, that's just him being a statesman. I think it's because he is in a position of weakness and he knows it. And I feel like he's trying to telegraph otherwise. By the weird placement of his hands, but it's too obvious because he's doing it because he's aware of it. And he's trying to telegraph a position of strength, but he's not. It doesn't follow up with the rest of his body language. It's just weird. And in everything, every time Trump would say anything, Macron just laughs at everything Trump says. You would think Trump is the funniest comedian in the world. I mean, Macron is so eager to.
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make it seem like he finds everything trump says funny and insightful he is like right there it's just weird right am i reading too much into this game i feel it's a it he looks weak mccrone looks weak i think body language is a decent thing to look at when you're looking at these world leaders when they get in front of the cameras because you can tell a lot of this is practiced you know and probably advised by some people on their staff on how to be
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Yeah, I mean, Trump is just relaxed. Macron is, I mean, his veins are sticking out in his hand. He's tense. He looks tense. He looks, he doesn't look relaxed. He looks like he's not. And you know what? If I was the head of a country and I was losing power with my particular political party and the conservatives were gaining lots of ground in my country and people were dissatisfied and my economy wasn't as great as it was before I took office, and I had an immigration problem, partly because of my own doing, I'd probably be a little nervous about it too. And, you know, kind of waffling back and forth on Ukraine because you're trying to keep everybody happy because you don't have actual leadership. Yeah, I'd probably be a little bit uptight too. It's very different the way that these leaders are now reacting. And I feel like this is a trend that's been ongoing for some time. We're actually coming up at the bottom of this hour. We're going to talk to Matt Mowers over at the EU-US forum. Particularly on Ukraine and how you have Keir Starmer and now at odds with some of these other European leaders about the way that he thinks that he's like the outlier anymore. I really feel like Keir Starmer is kind of the outlier of all of these other leaders that are up that are coming up within Europe. And despite the European media's best attempts to classify all of them as the next Mussolini, because that's anyone who is not a Marxist is the next Mussolini to them. Just very interesting. We're going to talk about some of that. All right. Also, we've got we were talking about the letters or the request rather sent out by Musk. These key agencies and how they're wanting just simply some responses to what people are doing. Can you tell us what you've done for your job? And the left is absolutely freaking out. They're mad that they were asked this at all. They think. Apparently that they're above this and they don't have to be held accountable. And this was something that was in particular, it was from POTUS. It was POTUS's request and Elon Musk was just merely, they're just merely carrying it out. Now the media is trying desperately to, to poke some holes in the coalition on the right. Really saw this over the weekend with Kash Patel when they're not trying to deny him agency because he is a conservative of color or on the right and a person of color. They are looking at that, the email that I was just mentioning that went out to these federal workers. So the FBI, Kash Patel said, told his department to ignore Doge's request pertaining to efficiency. It was called What Did You Do Last Week? That's the email. It went out. I thought it went out Friday. It went out early on Saturday. He wants five bullet points detailing their accomplishments at work in the past week. So Patel said no. He also countered with his own message, saying that the FBI is in charge of all of our review processes and will conduct reviews in accordance with FBI procedures. He added, when and if further information is required, we will coordinate the responses. For now, please pause any responses. Now, the way that some people are taking this, they're trying to act like this is a big deal. slash it, Musk. Even Daily Mail, which is kind of on the right, they're a little bit more right-leaning. They're still insufferable, but they are a little bit on the right of things. They had a picture of Kash Patel and the Baby Mama drama. As though to say that Kash Patel's allegiances are here and not with this is one of the dumbest things ever. You know how weird it is when you know everybody that's involved in certain things and then you're watching the media story about it, the stories that are coming out, and you realize how much you hate the legacy press. You really don't hate them enough. They're desperately trying to figure out the, you know, some kind of crack. Now, the email that was sent out, this is what it says verbatim. Subject, what did you do this last week? Three sentences. First, please reply to this email with approximately five bullets of what you accomplished last week in CC your manager. Two, please do not send. That's boldened. That's emboldened. Please do not send any classified information links or attachments. Third, deadline is this Monday at 1159 p.m. EST. So a lot of the stuff with FBI and the DNI is, you know, probably they're sensitive or classified. So it makes sense that they would say, tell their employees, don't reply to this. That makes sense. But the media is trying to make it an apoplectic, you know, they're going apoplectic. They're trying to make this a major issue. I still think that you can answer without giving any classified information. You know, that's something that you can do, but With him, with this, the media is going to ignore that entirely. They're already talking about some of the unions suing Doge because they said that they're affecting federal employees' jobs. So that's the whole point, you absolute butthats, is to affect their jobs out of existence. You're right. Because we are the taxpayers who voted for this. There's too many federal employees. We voted for this. It's what we voted for. It's what we wanted. So you can get mad all you want, but we literally voted for this. And I'm happy to see that it's finally getting done. But they're going to try so many different ways to look for any kind of crack in the alliance. And that's why I'm like, with some of this stuff, read into it a little bit more. Because to me, I don't think that Tulsi Gabbard or Kash Patel saying no don't send any of this that's not insubordination they are well aware that the email says don't share anything classified they're also well aware that you know there's probably they can handle the response and i mean i'm really sure they can probably just like walk right over to doja's office and talk with them themselves so i'm not really i don't kane i don't think that's a big deal It's like trending, though. The press is there like, oh, look at this. There's there's like a war brewing. Someone said, who was it? I was like a nobody over. I think it was like Axios or something had said it was a MAGA war brewing or a war brewing within MAGA or something like that. Based on that. Seriously. I mean, read between the due diligence. They don't think that you're going to look. This is the problem with the media. They don't think that you're going to look at any of the stuff we were just talking about. You're just going to look at the headline and be like, oh, wow, maybe there's something they really are fighting over. And then the seat of doubt is going to be planted in your mind. Any way that they can try to stymie the implementation of the agenda we voted for, that's what they're going to do. You know who else is out, by the way, over at MSNBC or NBC? Guess who else? Lester Holt. His first name is not Mo. Lester Holt is his name. He is out. I'm actually glad he is. I don't have any respect for Lester Holt. I know some people thought he was a more moderate debate host or more moderate debate moderator, but... I got to tell you, my perspective is clouded a little bit by personal experience. In my town, we were the first town to take to the ballot box the fight over our school board, and we won. It was before Virginia, before everybody. Patriot Mobile, by the way, that's my cell phone service. They're from here and they were very active in helping these parents. 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So apparently Matt has helped Canadians are canceling U.S. travel en masse as the trade war escalates. They said that Canadians are canceling their American vacations. And yeah, they said that they're protesting the impact of tariffs. You know, the reason that we're doing this is because we weren't being treated fairly. So you're mad that we were not being treated fairly. And we asked diplomatically for years your government to stop it. And then they didn't do it. And then you decided we had to do what we had to do. and you're gonna be mad and stomp your feet about it there's enough of us to go vacation down at 38 we don't need y'all then if that's how you're all gonna be no offense we love you but you know what this is some tough love sorry but they said that oh it's gonna cost the american comp do you i don't believe that a single one of these individuals that complain about it are actually not gonna go i don't believe i don't believe you i don't believe any of you no sorry don't i don't uh also the uh This, let's see, Gen Z is discovering that me time or vacation and calling it micro retirement. They they're trying to figure out how to deal with. They've barely been in the workforce. God love them. God love them. They've barely been in the workforce and they're like, we're dealing with burnout. You don't know what burnout is if you're saying that and you're under 30. Sorry, you don't know. They said that they it's called micro retiring retirement. Taking extended, most people would call that vacation, taking days off. That's important. Matt Mowers, EOUS Forum, because Germany just suffered, well, they got their kneecaps hit by the conservatives there. Stick with us and our partners that help bring you the program. It's our friends over at Kel-Tec, the PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7, the latest from Kel-Tec. And it's all American made, great American story, the creation of Kel-Tec. And this 5'7 is the lightest 5'7 that's on the market. It really is because I have 5'7s and I can't conceal carry any of them. I can't carry any of them because they're a little bit big for my frame. This, I actually can't. It's 40% lighter than the next lightest 5.7, and they accomplish this through two ways. They have this innovative rotary barrel design, and then they also have a unique top-loading design that replaces the traditional magazine with a stripper clip. No joke. So it's a slimmer carry profile, and you get a 20 plus 1 capacity. It is built to perform well. when it matters most. Low recoil, simplicity, and reliability. That's what it's engineered for. It's great for everyday carry, and it is legit the quickest and easiest field strip available. MSRP is only $399, so this is one that you absolutely can afford to get. It's the first of its kind. Kel-Tec PR57 Rotary Barrel Pistol, chambered in 5.7, only at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation Performance, Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you at the bottom of the second hour on Monday. A lot of stuff to discuss. Been very, very busy, not just the administration, but also looking across the Atlantic and seeing what our friends and frenemies and neighbors and allies and however you also want to characterize it, what they've been up to. Because we had this... dust up with regard to ukraine uh potus i thought was was very straightforward with his messaging and there were some european leaders that just you know like here's starmer and some others while he's outside of the eu but uh germans germany's leaders particularly uh were had bristled at some of potus's messaging well their voters bristled back and they were whooped their their the the I guess you could say European, the Germany's conservative because conservative is different over there than it is here. But their conservative leaders are now taking their winning seats. They're getting power. I've never actually thought I would see this. I kind of honestly had kind of written them off. I'm not going to lie. But this is huge. They're rejecting the super far left Marxist agenda that they have been peddled for the past like 10, 20 years. And now it looks like they're actually stepping up to secure their borders. We talked a little bit about this last time because they made the EU mad. They were trying to trigger this, I guess, clause within the agreement that they had saying that they needed to kind of look at their own national security before they just start allowing unfettered immigration of people that aren't even entering illegally and they can't. ascertain as to whether or not they're coming in honorably. Like, are they giving correct information? So these elections were huge. We're going to talk about this in the Ukraine stuff with our friend Matt Mowers. He's been on the program before. He's a founding member of the EU-US Forum. And he also served previously in the former, the previous Trump administration. He joins us now. Matt, good to see you. I don't mean to sound like myopic about it, but I really was not expecting germany's elections to be anything like what they turned out and with conservatives they're they're conservative you know i guess they're right-leaning party taking power it's just not something that i thought we would see because i mean this is angela merkel territory i mean this is like the country that kind of kick-started some of the illegal immigration crisis that we see throughout the eu talk to me about this yeah no that's that's exactly right i mean it's from with angela merkel who you know was
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I guess could be broadly defined as center right based on Germany's electorate in politics, but barely, right? And it really continued under Schultz. And the Socialist Democratic Party has been in power now for several years, and you've really seen illegal immigration skyrocket. You've seen censorship and shutting down of free speech. weeks ago about these broad definitions of hate laws where you've got the government going after individuals who are just expressing an opinion that may be contrarian to someone else. And these environmental policies, and this is all stemming off of a lot of their boneheaded decisions from years ago when the US was pressuring them in the first Trump administration when he had folks like Rick Grinnell, who were ambassador to Germany, telling them, hey, you should probably get off Chinese technology and you shouldn't be hooked on to Russian energy. kind of poo-pooed them at the time. And then, you know, you saw that come home to roost in the last few years as well. And so it is incredible. I mean, you've now seen really a cratering of the left wing across Europe and its most recent iterative form is there in Germany. I mean, Schultz's party, and I think he's still sobbing right now, you know, 24 hours later, really took a collapse. This is their worst performance, I believe, in over 100 years right now. And you have seen a growth in support for both the center-right, which is the CDU, as well as the more conservative party, which is the AFD. And a lot of this really got started. And really, a lot of the genesis really, I mean, it was brewing there already. But then when you had Vice President Vance go to the Munich Security Conference just in the last couple of weeks and deliver this, you know, taking the Germans and really broadly this, you know, European bureaucracy to task for shutting down free speech, for having terrible environmental policies that shut down, you know, family farmers and really hamstring their ability to make smart energy policy decisions. You know, all these different issues, to take them on on immigration, illegal immigration, the skyrocketing crime you've seen. I mean, you've now, and it's right in the heart of Germany, right? Right before their elections. It's remarkable to see the, change from his speech just within days ago to now the recent election results. It shows that there's really growing conservative thought in the European continent. Folks are fed up with the left wing that they've been seeing and the failure that they've seen in delivering their own lives. And they're finally willing to step up and speak out about it by casting their vote for a conservative party.
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And it's and you mentioned you mentioned J.D. Vance's vice president Vance's speech over there. I I kind of you know, I had to chuckle because they acted as though they were shocked that he said this. Like, did they expect anything else? I mean, he everything was was working together. It was like an ingredients list of of. fabulousness. Everything was coming together at the right time. How did they think that there was going to be any other kind of message delivered but the one that he delivered? It made me worry about what kind of leadership they were providing for their own constituents if they expected something else than what he said to them at that meeting.
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Well, look, I was in the State Department, so I've had to go to a bunch of these international meetings. And I'll tell you, traditionally, what happens is everyone shows up and they all have their coffee.
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No one rocks the boat.
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They move off to a lunch, and then they move off to a nice little conversation, a roundtable, a bilateral meeting where it's a bunch of talking points where they say basically nothing except we look forward to further economic and military cooperation, but no one knows what that really means. And nothing really ever gets said. And so it's refreshing. And I get it, maybe we have a little bit of an American bias where we actually like to, I don't know, talk about real issues and do things instead of just make noise and spout off a bunch of hot air about things. But what we saw was JD Vance really addressed the big elephant in the room, which is the fact that if we are gonna continue to have have this relationship between the United States and and you know traditional Europe in the way that we've had for a long time now and you know often serve both of us well we gotta start aligning our values on it we can't just talk the talk and start talking about the latest weapons purchase and all that which by the way they should also be doing but Europe was behind the eight ball and all that for you know decades as well um but they they've got to start getting serious about addressing the needs of their own people and you know it's amazing to me you know you had all these essentially sitting around saying I can't believe he said these things. JD Vance clearly is in better touch with the constituents of Germany than their own current chancellor and Schultz was. Because what we saw were voters vote the way JD Vance would have voted likely had he been a citizen of Europe, not the way Schultz would have. And so I think it's really telling that for all the hand-wringing from the global bureaucracy that you kind of saw present in Munich and everywhere else and all the commentary after his speech, that he was the one who actually could identify the true underlying concerns of the European citizen in a way that the EU-US forum has been talking about. I mean, Dan, you were with us at our kickoff event about a year ago now, and it's all the same issues we've been talking about now that we've seen across the continent. Germany, particularly in Germany. You've seen statistics that show, you know, nearly one in 50 percent of the crime committed, violent crime committed by someone who's a migrant. I mean, you know, this is the type of thing that eventually says they're saying this is impacting my life. The politicians are ignoring those concerns. It's time for a change. And that's what we saw in Germany this weekend.
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Exactly. I remember the videos that they had to put out. And this was like Maybe 10 years ago when they were doing like the song and dance, trying to instruct people that they were bringing over and housing like near German schools and all of this, like you can't just touch females without permission. And they had to do this whole choreographed thing. And it was a weird and everybody talked about this weird viral video and how it was kind of amusing. But at the same time, it was sort of terrifying that they had to. basically devolved down to that point to try to protect their own constituents. And there are videos out like every single week of people being assaulted, accosted. You know, I mean, I think you had even, I think the EU-US forum had even tweeted one out. We're talking with Matt Mowers, who worked in the previous Trump administration and also is with the EU-US forum about all of this. Because Vance, you know, he was talking about the threat from within, you know, the threat against speech and the threat against rights. I mean, to say nothing of you know, the kicking and screaming that we've heard from a lot of these leaders just in pain, you know, just the bare minimum of GDP for their own defense per NATO, because now we have this. I feel like we're having more productive conversations on Ukraine now than we did, obviously, under the previous administration, with the exception of Keir Starmer, I will say. But that's sort of also shown the cracks in his party's decision and their decision making and their goals with Ukraine, as opposed to, you know, now Germany's got to rethink all of this because now the conservatives are coming into power. Macron's quickly losing popularity and seats. So all of this is shifting. What does that mean for the United States and how we're viewing this conflict? Is Europe actually going to stand up and say, no, we're going to take the lead on this for once and we're going to deal with this and United States, you can back us if you want, because it doesn't seem like they're going Starmer's route.
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No, you're not going to be able to see them step up and leave. They're seemingly incapable of doing that. But what they are going to have to do is actually do something. I mean, here's the thing. I mean, with the exception of the fighting that's happened on the ground, right, which obviously has been well documented, from a diplomatic side, there's been essentially no movement since the start of that conflict.
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Yeah, it is weird.
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No one's engaging on either side. Everyone's having the same meeting and everyone's having Zelensky over and everyone's going off to meet with them. But there's no actual progress towards a diplomatic solution on any of that. It's just a lot of the same conversation year after year after year. So what President Trump has now done by even if they're not going to want to do it exactly the way that we are, to at least recognize that something has to change. They have to find a new way for engagement. They have to step up and actually invest in their own collective defense as well, which, by the way, is good for them. It's good for us. It's good for Western security if they do that. And so, you know, by President Trump kind of really grabbing the bull by the horns and changing it up, in the last two weeks than we've seen in the last two years as a result of what's happening. And that's a good thing. If we're closer to finding a way to get about a long-term peace agreement, that's good, right? That's why diplomats exist. That's why you want to engage. And so if we want a pathway to peace, the Europeans. That's what they say their goal is. But they haven't done anything until the last few weeks about actually trying to get there.
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That's a really good point. They have the photo ops and they have Zelensky out and it's like the same pictures and the same conversations and nothing's changed, you know, for some odd years. Now, there's a lot of things changing. And I don't know, it just seems like the pieces of the puzzle is starting to fall into place. And maybe people are seeing reason. I don't know. I'm very optimistic. I'm more optimistic now, especially after these last elections in Germany, than I think I have been about a lot of our allies over there. So this isn't very encouraging.
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Dana, the one challenge, though, still is this. So you've had now growth in votes for conservative parties across the board. We saw the same thing in the EU elections. We've seen the same thing in national elections. We saw the same thing in France last year. But there is now this conspiracy of the the left and the center to try to box out conservative parties from actually taking any of the seats in government once they actually do better in the elections. Because the parliamentary system, they're able to do that, right? I mean, our system, when we win, we get more seats, we get to call the shots.
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Right.
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Because the parliamentary system there, it's not working that way. You're seeing conservatives boxed out. You're seeing the AFD boxed out right now by the CDU, even though they're the center right party. They're going to partner with the left party right now and start working with the AFD. We've got to get to the point where the politicians in Europe are actually respecting the will of the voters. The voters are stepping up and screaming as loud as they can that they want conservative change. The politicians need to start actually honoring the will of the voters and get serious about that.
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I let you mention the CDU. There's a video where they're saying none of us wants to close the border. And then the voters spoke. Yeah, they do. They absolutely do. Yeah. Matt Mowers with the EU-US Forum, always a pleasure. I look forward to talking with you again soon. You do such great work in raising awareness of what's happening because we need strong allies. I mean, that's incredibly important for us, for our strength as a nation, for our national security. So these are good moves, but we've got a lot more to come. Matt Mowers, always a pleasure. Thank you.
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Thanks so much. Appreciate it.
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SPEAKER 21 :
it's good that the Russians think that the Trump administration is in total alignment with the way that Putin sees things?
SPEAKER 02 :
I think we've had, Jake, by my estimation, almost a million and a half deaths here. And finally, we have a leader, that is President Trump, who is determined to end the carnage. And so the only way you're going to end the carnage is if you have a relationship with the leaders of both countries that are involved. I went over to Russia. I had a meeting with President Putin. It was a long meeting, positive, constructive. Lots of good things got discussed, in large part because the president enjoyed a positive relationship with President Putin.
SPEAKER 14 :
So that's Steve Wyckoff talking to Jake Tapper about this over the weekend, over the ongoing conflict. The war between Russia and Ukraine. The question is weird. Like what? It was the through the lens of it begged the question because they're immediately assuming that Trump is in alignment with Putin. And then what kind of questions that Tapper is like, is that good? That's basically what he asked. Tell me I'm wrong. That's what he asked. He's like, so, you know, begs the question, meaning he's assuming that the conclusion is true based off of a faulty premise. Right. Begging the question is not posing the question. You're you're assuming you're making an assumption about the conclusion of something because you're by by by pushing forward that premise. You're you're saying that this premise is valid. Thus, the conclusion is true. So he's like, so do you think so? Russians think Trump is in total alignment with Putin. Is that good? What kind of question is that? Where do you get that from? How do you even go about answering a stupid question like that? I wish Wyckoff would have been like, what the hell is that? What is that? It's CNN. I don't know. What do you say? It's CNN. Welcome to the program. Back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the top of this third hour. And I am... I don't know the way that this is ongoing. I'm I'm very, you know, we're talking about Matt talking to Matt Mowers from the EU US forum. You have to have healthy friends and allies, especially in something like this, because that provides a level of security for you. I mean, we all know this, right? That's like, you know, you have friends out there that can take out your back, right? Or that have a mutual understanding, except for a long time. We've been the people been taking advantage of us. They really have been. They've been taking advantage of us. Can you know what my favorite argument from some of the lefty Europeans out there? They're like, well, that's payback for the revolution. You know, we helped you with the revolution. Are you serious? Are you serious with me right now? And it was just France, by the way. Shut up. I can't. I swear to you. There was like a couple of years ago. I can't remember who it was. It was some editorialist that had a whole think piece about that. I just got to roll your eyes. But this I mean, what Maurer said was accurate about. all of the movement with Ukraine because we haven't had anything but photo ops and then spending of billions of dollars on whatever it is that they're doing. Although I think some of it was, you know, we talked about their pensions last week. So, We're now actually I feel like we're starting to see some progress. It felt like it's it felt like it's been a stalemate for for so long. But I also think that there are a lot of leaders that have been perpetuating this this conflict. And I think here's Starmer and his whole party is one of them. I mean, that's I and then this refusal to even fund. your own defenses to a certain degree that helps you and puts you in a better position to better assist your allies under the NATO umbrella is wild that they even pushed back on that much. I don't know. I mean, this back and forth, finally seeing some of this get some move and maybe have them consider coming to a table to negotiate an end to this is significant. And in spite of some of the other bad advice, like from the Starmers and all of this. So I don't know. I think that Zelensky has been humbled a little bit after this last election. And then when he came and he was meeting with officials here in the United States last week. They've got the mineral rights deal because apparently that's a big, that was a big point of contention for Zelensky. He scoffed at that last week when Trump brought up maybe perhaps negotiating the mineral rights. And you guys know what the mineral rights are. Things like rare earth metals, if it's like oil, if it's gas, things like that. Rubio had said Friday that He was that Zelensky was trying to pull out the rug from underneath them. And he said that that he was I think the way that pulling this up is characterized, for instance, over at Red State, excited to make a deal in private before saying something completely different to the press, which is something that he's been doing. you know, whatever his motivations on that. But this is, I mean, that's pretty huge. We've made a significant, I don't want to say investment because investment suggests that we're going to get any of that back and we're not. I mean, what is, I think the total number, it's just under 100 billion, isn't it? Yeah. The amount that we have given to them or the way that Zelensky acts like it's an investment. He acts like he's going to pay it back. In fact, I think there's audio of this. Hang on. Let me pull this up. Cut three is the flashback audio? Yeah, this is the flashback. Audio sum by three. So this was not long ago, but it's during under Biden. Listen.
SPEAKER 18 :
If you can't give us, can't give us some financial support. Okay. Okay. Please give us a credit and we will give you back money.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, really? Just under a hundred billion. Right. What, what did we, what did we get for that? That's what, that's apparently what stands to be repaid. You really honestly think that they would pay that big giant sum back? I mean, what, I don't know. He rejected the argument. I think this was something that Scott Besant had suggested. U.S. Treasury Secretary was talking about the... This was from Fox News Sunday, Morning Future, saying that the U.S. could help propel Ukraine into a great growth trajectory. It's not a military guarantee, but it's an economic security guarantee with business. And Zelensky rejected it. Okay. There you go. They said that they were concerned because of the added language regarding formal U.S. security guarantees, etc., etc. I don't think that he's been interested in securing a resolution to this conflict. I think now, only because of the change in the political climate, he looks like he is. We'll see where that goes, but... This has just been he's he is changing his tune now because he's seen he's seen the shift. The paradigm shifted. He sees it. I wanted to also move. We got to talk a couple of other things. So the DHS ad campaign that we talked about last week that I think is not a good idea because we don't need to spend 200. It's 200 million dollars. It's a 200 million dollar DHS ad campaign. It was first floated out there by DHS secretary or Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. ad campaign to run ads about illegal immigration and that they want you know to like telegraph don't come here this is what happens if you come here it seems pretty obvious and noam said on friday night that oh these ads were trump's idea and she said that trump asked her to feature in the ads and thank him for closing the border i don't think that she i don't know I'm trying to be very middle of the road here because it's kind of hard when you've got the fog of information. Does it sound like she's trying to pin that on him? Because she got a lot of criticism for that. Like a $200 million ad buy when we're trying to cut spending is not a good idea. Especially when you don't really need to do all of that. You don't need to have her sitting in front of a camera. talking about how the policies have changed. The ASMR thing that they came out with last week, I thought was actually pretty brilliant. That was a pretty smart thing. I mean, it went, it just went viral. That's like all they need, right? They don't really need a whole, they don't need all this other stuff. But she's saying that POTUS asked for this. And asked for her to be in it. And I don't know about that. That just sounds like she got some criticism about it. And I don't, I just can't see Trump asking for that while also simultaneously demanding that must cut hundreds of billions of dollars. Kane's shaking his head. You don't buy it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't get, it makes no logical sense no matter what position you're coming from.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Because you can get earned media from just doing the job you're supposed to do.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it's more authentic and that resonates more. You don't need the $200 million professionally crafted. I can't even, what $200 million ad buy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Just let the media report on what you're doing. You don't need to advertise it or especially spend 200 million.
SPEAKER 14 :
If you get like if you have video rounding people who entered the country illegally rounding people up. I mean, that's going to go gangbusters. You don't need to get all the media from that. You don't even need you don't need to buy a second of it. See, and the reason why I don't believe that Trump ordered her to do that is because Trump understands media. He understands optics. I mean, I think that he has a good team around him this time better than the first time around in terms of optics. But ultimately, like the McDonald's thing, I think that was his idea. I mean, he was wasn't he one of the executive producers for Apprentice? I mean, he understands television and he understands production and he understands stagecraft. Reagan understood all those things. That's why I'm like, I don't think that he suggested that because he, I think, understands that the authentic earned media is so much more powerful than staging this like super expensive ad buy and like spending all this money on production. I just, I don't know. I don't want to spend a lot of time on it, but I was watching that. I'm like, that's going to be another thing that the media is going to try to pick out. So just kind of have that, you know, in context. So coming up. We still are dealing with vestiges of wokery, my friends. And some of those are now in the art world. I was wondering where this is going to happen. So this apparently there's a university that has slapped a trigger warning on Botticelli's Birth of Venus. They said that it's nudity and I have no idea why. We're going to talk about this because these people are going to be the death of... All that is good. I'm so done with it. I feel like right when you get it beaten down into a hole, there's a tentacle that pops up. I don't know. We're going to talk about this here coming up. We also have headlines on the way. As we move, we got Today in Stupidity coming up. Our partners over at Super Beats, the same folks who did the Super Beat Shoes now have Super Boreen. And this is an all-natural product, plant-based. And it's formulated with an ingredient that helps to support your metabolism and helps to support blood sugar levels. It's three times more effective than your diet and exercise alone. And these are real results. Super convenient. One easy to swallow capsule. It helps you do more to support metabolic health and blood sugar levels. They're clinically researched ingredients. And it features a clinically studied berberine that has this 10 times higher absorption rate than standard berberine. It's used by doctors regularly. from the makers of super beats so head to your nearest sam's club save on the super beats hard shoes and the new super barine from human you'll love the way it makes you feel
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SPEAKER 08 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 14 :
So remember how I was talking about with Matt Mowers and Zelensky, and then we brought up the debt and all of that stuff and the money that, you know, how much did it stand, like basically $100 billion? Well, apparently, Zelensky says, with all due respect, we do not recognize Ukraine's $500 billion debt to the U.S. What? I'm sorry, what? Yeah. Okay, we'll come back to that. We're going to come back to that now. Yeah, we'll come back to it. How small can a tiny home get? Stupid size. Yeah. So somebody is excited that they built the world's smallest house. It's a cabinet for a person. It's not a small house. It's like the size of an outhouse.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's a coffin with a roof.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, you know what? That is it. It is a coffin. It's 19 square feet. How do you sleep in it? 19 square feet. When you walk into it, it's literally a bench and then one counter. That's it. The guy can't even stand up straight in it. You're in a little, that's like a dollhouse. That's not a tiny house. That's a shed. That's a he shed. Sir, that's a shed. This guy's bragging. You know what? I'm saving this for tomorrow because I hate tiny houses so bad. If my hate was an energy, it would destroy them like the sun. I hate them that bad. I'm coming back to this and I have a reason why. A tourist leaning out of his train for a selfie hit a rock. People, this 53-year-old woman was traveling on Sri Lanka's iconic Poti Maniki line, and then she was literally hanging out of the train to get a selfie and hit a rock. What? No, she's dead. The rock hit her to death. Like as she was just flat and it dead. Why? Stop it. Stop falling into canyons. Stop falling and hitting stuff with your head on trains. Just stop. It's sad. And what is so frustrating is that this is preventable. Stop it. In Australia, if the animals don't kill you, the dirt will. Apparently, people are dying from a soil-borne disease after flooding in one area. This is coming from Australian media. Channel 9 News in Australia. It's in far north Queensland. Two people yesterday. One person kicked the bucket last week. 21 cases total. I don't even know if I'm saying this right. Meliodiosius. Meliodiosius. I don't know. It's a serious infectious disease caused by soil bacteria in northern Australia. It enters into broken skin or contaminated water and it can cause pneumonia. And it's a tropical disease. And it's from a bacteria called Burkholder. And it's found in like Southeast Asia and northern Australia. And it's gross. It's just gross stuff in the dirt. So stop. Stop touching dirt. Just it's like Australia is like the Florida of the world on roids. We've got Stephen Yates joining us next. Stick with us. What does living better mean to you? Is it more money, a bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how Relief Factor can help change that. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor supports your body's response to inflammation. And it doesn't just mask pain for a short time. It helps to reduce or even eliminate it. and it's safe to take daily. In fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective it is. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Feel better every day, and you'll live better every day. Trying Relief Factor is easy. Get their three-week quick start for only $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF, or visit relieffactor.com.
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keep your finger on the pulse with a dana show podcast delivering timely news with insightful analysis whenever you want straight to you on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcasts all of these things uh only benefit when you distill it all putin and she uh and what message does it send uh to xi jinping when donald trump says uh to ukraine that they are the aggressor they they who are in fact the victims of an invasion, are somehow the ones who started the war. And that the price for ending the war ought to be that Ukraine gives up territory, has no security guarantees, and oh, by the way, give over $500 billion to Donald Trump in the United States for nothing in return.
SPEAKER 14 :
What history is she citing here? Because I thought we had given them a ton of money. Wait, what? What? It's Susan Rice. I mean, you can't expect a lot of clarity for that. Welcome back to the program. Damn, I just rolled my eyes right out of my head. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour talking. I can't take her seriously. I had to play it because it's just as asinine. And really, I just want Stephen Yates to respond to it in his absolutely perfect way. Because I can only imagine you guys know our very good friend Stephen Yates at Yates comes on social media and he served in not one but two administrations. He is an expert on all things as it pertains to China. I mean, really foreign policy, but with a special, special distinction as it relates to China. And he joins us now from his secret lair. Stephen, always good to see you. I just kind of wanted to get your response. To Susan Rice's, her, I guess, analysis of how she thought that this whole thing is operating like that, I guess that she she thinks that's the history with Ukraine and us and the administration.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Dana, it just it just hurts my feelings and hurts my head to hear her talk. Because it's just absolute nails on the chalkboard. She thinks we're all literally just stupid. We don't remember at all who was national security advisor to the president of the United States when Ukraine actually lost territory and there was an international agreement to come to their aid because they gave up the world's ultimate weapons. That was Susan Rice, National Security Advisor to Barack Obama back in the 2014-25 timeframe. And so for her to try to go to high church, clearly the wrong church, the church of all lies, and try to come out and say this weird, wacky stuff at this point. She never gave two bits about emboldening Xi Jinping when they were not upholding reasonable standards in the South China Sea. When China's pushing for advantages there. Of course, this whole idea of money going places while she and her ilk would sure know about it. She was domestic policy advisor in the Joe Biden, Kamala Harris administration when places like USAID seemed to misplace billions and billions of dollars for programs no one voted for. since they really care about who voted for things now. But my goodness.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's a that's a very good point. She was right there. I yeah, I'm not quite. She was right there overseeing all of it. She had a hand in all of it. I mean, I'm not saying that she may have gotten her hands in the pot, but she may have. Why? I mean, because I have this other headline. China's backing the U.S.-Russia consensus on Ukraine war. I there the way that the the way that China approaches it and then the way that the press runs with it, they're trying to, in my estimation, correct me if I'm wrong on this, make it seem like I guess that Trump is aligned with Putin and Xi Jinping. And oh, look at this trifecta of evil that he's pulled us into. Is that the goal here?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they're sort of going with the Russia, Russia, Russia. But now they're going from a Chinese menu where you can pick one from column A and one from column B. And now you've got a mixed salad of Russia, China, Russia, China. And it's all bad because we're against democracy. Apparently, all of us are against democracy together. And that's what they're trying to spin. They've literally got nothing left. No ideas, no reality. They can't run on records. And basically, all this panic about first rounds of negotiations on things, the China playbook is simple, opportunism. That's all they're doing is opportunism. And what our leader is doing is trying to upset the apple cart to get a deal that no one's really tried to get before. And so we're having to talk separately with European leaders that come through. We have to try to screw their heads on straight. We've had a little bit of talk with our Asian allies and partners to try to set some context for other things. But we're just methodically trying to set context. A new normal where we can actually have prosperity and peace, which is not what the Susan Rice's of the world or the Samantha Powers of the world have brought us.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, if anything, I think it would be pretty accurate to say that. her approach not only helped lay the foundation for that conflict, but it also prolonged it because it seems like at some point there was a, it looked like there was going to be a winding down. And I think this was even, this was maybe right after Biden got in office, but then it's almost like the administration, the Biden-Harris administration kind of kept it going and dragged it out even further. So you're right, because it feels like it's been a stalemate this entire time. And all it's been is Zelensky getting photo ops asking for more money and then audio coming out of him saying well no we don't we don't recognize that we have a debt to the United States we don't owe them any money I mean it's like what hundreds of billions of dollars and it just seems you know Trump is it seems like he's trying to approach this from like a business negotiation like with the mineral rights thing Zelensky now seems to be changing his mind on this so I mean, it seems like there's actually progress on this. So that might be why you have the media running with, oh, well, China weighed in. We're going to we're going to run with China's, you know, their perspective on everything.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, I mean, sometimes we've had such good news because of what Elon Musk did with X and others have done to try to rescue free speech. And we had a popular vote victory last fall. These are huge blessings that we almost forget that the mainstream media and the DNC talk machine are essentially in the same condominium. And so whatever you would expect Adam Schiff to be talking about, that's what the mainstream media is gonna be talking about. It's not the same oxygen that we normals inhale and live upon. And a lot of Europe inhales that same stuff and just keeps coming back to us. So we have to be as resilient and determined as the president has been on this stuff. He's not gonna be 100% right 100% of the time, but he's sure driving this in a direction that's not just good for business, it's good for geopolitics. We want the killing to end. We want Europe to step up and take care of its neighbors. It's not isolationism, it is actual realism. And we want this for the good of humanity, but also so we can take care of ourselves here at home. We got a lot to clean up, and when we do, we're gonna be a better friend and neighbor.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. I wanted to switch gears and look now towards the Pacific because China's been holding these live fire exercises in the Gulf of Tonkin right after days after Vietnam is mapping new territory. Now, Vietnam is not apparently responding that I've seen yet responded to the drills, but they've. I guess every water around China is disputed because China thinks it owns absolutely everything. So apparently they think that they own Vietnam's waterways too. Tell me about this because they're making all their neighbors mad.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, this is the part that all the galaxy brains in the D.C. Beltway and New York kind of conglomerate don't really understand why the rest of us are confused. They try to say, you know, it's America bad and America's picking fights. We just need to play nice with the world and uphold the air quotes rules based international order. And then things will be cool. But China keeps picking fights. They don't need to pick fights with Vietnam. They'll need to pick fights with the Philippines. But they are encroaching upon all these things. territories, their neighbors. And it's not because of America. I mean, what President Trump has been doing has been far away from these geographies for the most part. He'll get there, I promise. We're gonna do some things that will be America first and awesome once we get around to it. But for now, these are all fights that China's picking. So Xi Jinping I think is maybe in a weaker position than we've assessed. And this is sort of trying to take what he can get and try to push where he can until an alignment of forces are really lined up. But I mean, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, and you go down that line, there's an arc that has been unified in ways they've never been before. And it's not because of a brilliant memo or a strategy. out of the Secretary of Defense's office or some august journal of excellent ideas in America because Xi Jinping's been an ogre. And people are starting to kind of wake up and smell the coffee, so to speak.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. It said Australia was complaining about some of the naval exercises they were undertaking, but China just, whatever, we're just going to kind of blow it off.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, people in America can be forgiven for forgetting how far away Australia is. I know. That's a long, long trip. So that's not like just around the corner for the Chinese military. That's going way out of your way to poke a finger in someone else's mouth. They're trolling. Yeah, literally. Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, because you, I mean, that is, that's thousands of miles away from, I mean, you're going literally across an entire sea into other seas in order to, what is the purpose of them? I mean, there's no other purpose for them to go near Australia except to, you know, like a middle finger salute. That's it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's a middle finger salute, but they agitate in all of our political systems. Australia has been on the receiving end of a lot of political warfare from the Chinese Communist Party. They try to agitate Chinese nationals to be more loyal to the country they came from than the country they now reside in. In some cases, they've taken on Australian citizenship, but they get worked over by these affinity organizations that are all about History, friendship and culture, but really they're about dividing and conquering the political systems of our allies and trying to make them soft on China and maybe more critical of themselves. And so we're getting a taste of that here in the United States. Australia has gotten a deeper dose of it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, they've gotten a way deeper dose of it. It's been interesting to watch all of this. So I just with I kind of wanted to get your take on just a few things before I let you go, because, you know, we've had those concert. We had elections. We but Germany had elections and now they got the their more conservative party taking some seats. It seems like some other European leaders are coming around on Ukraine. And it seems like we've done a lot in terms of getting people out of the way for not Belt and Road, but their attempt to expand telecom systems, I guess, by using CCP leverage. What is this like if you had to look in your crystal ball? I feel like we're on better footing now, like going into the next several years than we were. It seemed like it was getting very catastrophic, obviously, under Biden and Harris. But I feel like even though it happened, you know, it seems like it happened very quickly after the election. There's been a major shift. A major shift against whether it's like, you know, the Putin's and the Xi Jinping's of the world. It just feels like more and more these leaders and voters are waking up around the world like, OK, none of this is good. They're tyrants. They're tyrants. We got to get back to a position of normalcy here.
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I agree, but I mean, I look at the movement is out there and Europe's the last of the dance. It seems like on this, this isn't really about forcing people to choose between America and Russia or China or whatever else. It's encouraging people to choose for themselves to go back to fundamental freedoms. I mean, when I listen to Malay talk and he's out there going Viva Viva, I love it. But he's basically telling them to get back to first principles. You know, you're meant to be citizens, not of the state, but you are citizens of a country and your rights come from God and all these other kinds of things. And in some parts of Europe, those are alive and well. So you had one part of the German electorate that really swelled on this. It just wasn't enough in their system to really be able to govern. But the seeds of this are germinating and growing. And it's gonna take a while for them to overcome the systemic grinding away that the sort of Soros International has spread around there for far too long. But it's coming. And so it's happening in America. In the fall, Canada is going to vote and probably going to have a conservative government. We're going to have maybe the next generation, Bolsonaro, do some things on behalf of that movement in Brazil. We see these seeds in Europe. Maloney is great at times at talking the right talk. And if we can get these parts of the old left to turn not again, not to America necessarily, but to their own roots in their own interests. We in the America first movement can deal with that. Those are our friends. Those are our people. So I see a lot of that. It makes me happy, but we got a long way to go before we drag some of Europe and our hemisphere across the finish line.
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It's a generational fight for sure. Stephen Yates at Yatescoms on X. Always good to see you, my friend. So we so appreciate your time every week. Thank you. God bless.
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Thank you, Dana. Take care.
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brighten up your timely news consumption with a dana show podcast where every update comes with a little dash of not so serious on youtube apple or wherever you get your podcasts um but also that my show had value and that i'm sorry that um what i was doing
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And value. And value. And in the end, I'm sorry, I try not to cry on TV.
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I mean, that's like you being overly emotional on TV is a change from you being overly emotional on TV. I'm just curious. I mean, normally it's just spitting invective and screaming. I mean, that's usually what she does. Joy Reid, she finally responded to getting canned at MSNBC because her ratings were in the toilet. I don't know how they could justify paying her three million. I can't believe she got three million dollars a year to do what she did. There was no thought involved. It was just like basically reading the the bathroom graffiti of a barely literate economically or mathematically challenged Marxist. I mean, this is all it sounded like. I mean, you can't listen to stuff like that. I don't even know how somebody has that much rage in them to do that kind of programming day in and day out. It's exhausting. That would be exhausting. Jiminy Christmas. No way. The one part you didn't see, and we'll show it to you tomorrow, is there was some guy who went up to her and handed her a tissue. Somebody would hand James Brown stuff when he was on stage performing, and they'd hand him a towel to wipe his head. Or they'd come and wipe his head. Or somebody would hand Elvis something. They'd put his cape on. It's like somebody came up and handed her a tissue while she is there bawling and squalling. I mean, I don't know. You knew it was going to be some kind of video as she's taking of herself whining. Yeah. Nature's healing. All right, Cain, today in stupidity.
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All right. And by the way, Juan, this is cut 24. Our former vice president, Kamala Harris, he thought maybe since she's no longer in public office, maybe she'd stop with this word salad stuff. No, no.
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Here she is. It goes through your mind when you see this. You're here. You're now seeing it up close.
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It's not only seeing it, Alex, you can smell it. You can feel it, right? So it's seeing it with our eyes, and many people have seen it. You all are covering it. But to literally be on the ground here, you can smell the smoke that was here. You can...
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Oh, my gosh. Why is she like this? The toxicity, frankly, of the environment. I mean, Alex, it's like not only can you see it with your eyes, but you can smell it with your nose. What do your other body parts do, Kamala?
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You feel it with your skin.
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I know. I can point to it with my hands. It's crazy. She is so horrible. Oh, my gosh. We really dodged it with that one, didn't we? Folks, have a great night. Find us on Substack, Trapper, Inverse, YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. I'll be back behind the mic with you tomorrow.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I don't think I've ever been so happily exhausted in my life. You have to keep up with so much, especially over the weekend. I talked to Seb Gorka last night, who, of course, is heading up counterterrorism efforts in the Trump White House. And Seb said, I forgot how much I value weekends. Because now that he's in government, as opposed to being a broadcaster, weekends, they're going at a breakneck pace in the Trump White House, clearly. And I can relate. I mean, not to the extent of the high-level government position that Zeb has, but you've got to be plugged in all the time. CPAC wrapped up over the weekend. Trump gave a rousing speech at the end of CPAC, including a shout-out to our friend Mike Lindell. And what he said about what MyPillow's Mike Lindell experienced was, segues nicely into this major announcement about the deputy director of the FBI. Here's what President Trump said at CPAC. And when he spotted our pal Mike Lindell in the crowd, he gave him a massive shout out.
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I'm pointing to Mike Lindell. That man suffered. That man suffered. The FBI thugs went up to him, and they took away everything he had. He suffered. And Mrs. Lindell... ...was a great guy. They went after him. It was just terrible. This was a vicious weaponization of your government. But he's all... I'll tell you, he stood up. He's all man. He stood up. He stood up strong. And nothing was going to faze him. And I want to thank you on behalf of everybody, Mike. You put up with a tremendous amount. And he never changed his mind. He said that election of 2020 was rigged. And he's more of a believer today than he was even four years ago. But now it's okay to say it, Mike. Now it's fine. Now, that's why, you know, when it comes to a day where you can't challenge crooked elections, we've got a real problem in this country. And as of January 20th, 2020 is of high taxes, crushing regulations, rampant inflation, flagrant corruption, government weaponization and total incompetence. Those days are over. They're over.
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You know, to quote the kids on social media, and I'll clean it up, Trump doesn't have two craps to give about what the New York Times thinks about what he's doing. And first of all, kudos to President Trump for singling out Mike Lindell that way. I think a lot about people who commit great personal sacrifice for their country. Anybody who knows Mike Lindell, who's met him, who spends five minutes with him, loves the guy. Loves him. And he wasn't even a political guy a number of years ago. But he kind of got introduced into the world of politics, became a Trump supporter and friend, gave a speech at the Rose Garden of the White House. when he donated thousands and thousands of items to help first responders during the pandemic. And Mike did a little something that I know he does not regret. He went off script. During that speech at the Rose Garden, he talked about the need for an American spiritual revival, how we've got to turn to God. We've got to crack open the Bible. And it's as if the floodgates opened and they decided to try to destroy Mike Lindell and MyPillow from that day forward, and they've never let up. What President Trump is referring to is how FBI agents swarmed around Mike and a hunting buddy of his outside a Hardee's in Minnesota and confiscated his cell phone. And Mike is such a—naive isn't the right word, but kind of an innocent— Spirit, he's like, wait a minute, all my stuff is in that cell phone. The way I conduct my business is in that cell phone. And why would the FBI, why? Because Mike has strong opinions about election integrity? Why would the FBI do that? Well, why did the FBI raid Mar-a-Lago? Why did the FBI break down the doors of people who were at the Capitol on January 6th? Because the FBI has been weaponized. The justice system, the DOJ, it's been weaponized. And so when the news came last night that Trump appointed Dan Bongino to be the deputy FBI director, You do understand the days of the FBI weaponization are over. You've got Kash Patel and Dan Bongino running today's FBI. And the left is freaking out. I have to admit, the meltdown is way more enjoyable than I ever thought it could be. Watching them shriek in hysterics over people like Dan Bongino... And look, Dan Bongino is absolutely a Trump loyalist. When you see the media accuse somebody of being a Trump loyalist, that's code. They're trying to smear that person as being otherwise unqualified. But you know something? Being loyal to the Trump administration is important. Very important. Byron York over at the Washington Examiner posted this morning on X how Politico is reporting that the Kash Patel, Dan Bongino appointments have been met with, quote, utter despair by liberals who had already grown fearful of a highly politicized FBI, unquote. Byron says, can anyone argue with a straight face that the FBI has not been highly politicized? What do you call snatching up the CEO of MyPillow outside a Hardee's, coming back from a hunting trip at 6 o'clock in the morning, sitting at the Hardee's drive-thru and surrounding his car and confiscating his cell phone? That's the FBI. What do you call raiding Mar-a-Lago because Joe Biden was desperately trying to stop Donald Trump from winning the election? going through Melania's underwear drawers, going through his kid's bedroom, raiding the 45th president of the United States like he's some kind of a drug cartel overlord. Well, it's a new day. It's a new day. And there are people like Adam Schiff and many others who I guarantee you are experiencing some sleepless nights over what FBI Director Kash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino are going to do next. There's going to be a reckoning for these people, and the reckoning is underway, and the American people love it. We love this. You love it. I love it. And the majority of Americans love it. Don't believe me? Listen to Steve Karnacki, the numbers guy over at NBC, talking about polling that shows how the majority of Americans love what Trump is doing, particularly with illegal immigration.
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He's done some things, proposed some things that are popular, that executive order to expand oil and gas production, the executive order recognizing two sexes. And also, when you look at immigration, there's all sorts of different ways to ask about it. But the CBS poll here had asked the general Trump administration program to deport immigrants who are here illegally. You see broad support there when it's asked at the broad level like that.
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Now, the people who are telling you that his supporter is collapsing are lying to you. James Carville, I don't even want to play that clip. I know Christian gave it to me. Carville went on a rant saying that the White House is 30 days away from utterly collapsing.
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Oh, Trump's down about five points in a poll. He went from 59 to 54. Oh, it's all over now. It's collapsing. Walls are caving in on it.
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Now, President Trump says he likes the idea of giving some of the savings from Doge back to Americans as kind of a dividend. Would you support that? No, we are not in the business of giving out money. And honestly, I don't know what $5,000 will do for you.
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Hear how Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, wants the federal taxpayers to be on the hook for, what is it, $40 or $50 billion so that California can rebuild after the wildfires? More on that in just a moment. We've got to put a clip of that up on our new Facebook account. How embarrassing. I'm so embarrassed by this. I have 317 Facebook followers. That's impossible. I mean, can't people just even stumble upon the Mike Gallagher Show page by accident? Do you know how embarrassing that is? If we don't get to 1,000 followers in the next 25 minutes, I'm going to sing a song. Okay? So if you don't want me to sing, you better follow me on Facebook. What can we sing, Eric? Joy to the World? No, actually, we ought to do Danny Boy. Get ready. St. Patrick's Day is coming up. My annual rendition of Danny Boy is in the archives. The only thing worse than me being nervous about ever singing on the show is when people complain about me singing on the show. All right, you don't want me to sing. You've got to follow me on Facebook. We have 95 likes. Is that for the whole page? I mean, that is so awful. Here's Bink. Here's a follower making a comment. Interesting. Interesting on that. Eric, did you notice that? I got somebody making a comment on our Facebook page. Interesting. Interesting. We got a whole bunch of drama going on with that, too. Everything's drama around here. How humiliating. 317 followers, 95 likes. No. Well, now I've got 408. All right. It's getting there. You definitely don't want me to sing. I'm going to get ready. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Me, me, me, me, me, me. I'm going to warm up. I'm going to warm up. 408 and 111 likes. Come on. And we're streaming today on X. I do like X. I'm not real big on Facebook, but I love X. and always like the comments being made over there. So anyway, Gavin Newsom once got his hand out for tens of billions of dollars. Now look, I know these wildfires were horrific, and I don't care what your political beliefs are. Unlike FEMA, I want everybody to get the assistance they need to get back on their feet after a natural disaster like these wildfires. But coming from California? I found a clip last night of a hearing regarding how much money Gavin Newsom's California is spending on illegal immigrants. I want to play this clip for you, and then I want you to consider Gavin Newsom's expectation that we're going to pony up federal taxpayer funds to rebuild... California. And honest to gosh, I've got such a visceral gut reaction to this, and I wonder if you do too. Gavin Newsom is asking for $40 billion, that's billion with a B, from the federal government, okay? But you remember, he also set aside taxpayer funds to to Trump-proof the state of California from Trump's immigration policy. And that guy has the audacity to ask for $40 billion from the American taxpayer? I don't think so. Let's take a look at this hearing. It's a brief clip. Listen to this back and forth. that confirms the unthinkable that California, like a lot of blue states, spends billions of dollars on illegal immigrants.
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In the current year to cover undocumented individuals in Medi-Cal, we're spending $9.5 billion total funds.
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So it's not the $6 billion that people continue to talk about in the media. It's $9.5 billion.
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That was a Budget Act number. This is a revised number based on the governor's budget updated estimates. So of the $9.5 billion, $8.4 billion is general fund.
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How about that? Based on the governor's updated budget numbers, they raised it from $6 billion to $9.5 billion. Now, contrary to what folks like Jasmine Crockett and Harold Ford and Jessica Tarloff and others maintain, billions of dollars is a lot of money. You could probably... make the case that in a state as big as California, it's not that big a deal. No, it is a very big deal. For California to spend $9.5 billion on illegals, that's a fourth of what Newsom is demanding from the federal government. You're a fourth of the way there if you get rid of what you're allocating. And that's only for illegals in what they call Medi-Cal. That's health care. for illegals. I mean, there are days when I read things that I can't even believe what my eyes are seeing and what my mouth is speaking. $9.5 billion to give illegal immigrants free healthcare. And of course, it certainly isn't free. The taxpayers are on the hook. And they've got the gall to ask for $40 billion? I got an idea. How about, Gavin Newsom, you go GoFundMe. How about you raise money the good old-fashioned way? If people want to give their hard-earned money over to California so that they can recover from the wildfires, and I don't like being, I don't like having a lack of compassion. I'm sorry for those people. I hate it for those people. I hate that they live in a state that is run by a leftist lunatic like Gavin Newsom. But if you're going to devote billions of dollars, that's on you. That's on the state of California. That is absolutely not on the federal taxpayer. 800-655-MIKE, 20 minutes before the hour. Again, not to be cruel, not to be mean, not to be ugly. It just seems to me... California ought to look somewhere else for its $40 billion. Let's see if you agree with me or not. 800-655-6453. This updated a minute ago, Tracy. Now I've got 408 and 111 likes, but nothing since then. Wait a minute now. She's giving me a number. 290? No, I've got 408. 408 is what the followers are on Facebook. So Tracy doesn't know how to do Facebook any more than I do. I mean, we are like a bunch of dummies just trying to mark. Eric is looking at a number 958. Tracy's still on 250. I'm at 408. We don't have a clue. I'm starting to figure out why we're not so popular on Facebook. Portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow. And the flannel sheets are 50% off right now. You'll save over 50% the flannel sheets mega sale from MyPillow. Look, you know what Mike Lindell was put through. You understand the way they've targeted MyPillow and tried to shut them down. But you keep standing in their way, and MyPillow goes strong thanks to your support. MyPillow is excited about their first ever mega sale on overstock clearance and brand new products like the flannel sheets. And Mike is also offering right now as a thank you to you, The multi-use MyPillow 2.0 with the roll-and-go case, regularly $49.94. It's now just $9.98. That price is unbelievable. The multi-use MyPillow 2.0 with the roll-and-go case. For just $9.98. And they've got cases with American flags and Bible verses. You've got to use the promo code MikeG. Limit 15 per customer, please, because of that incredibly low price. MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. MyPillow.
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He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
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I wonder if any of the FBI officials who authorized a raid on President Trump's home in Florida or who authorized treating MyPillow's Mike Lindell like a drug cartel overlord by swarming his car early in the morning outside a Hardee's drive-thru and confiscating his cell phone. as a result of his support of President Trump and his belief in election integrity. I wonder if any of these FBI thugs back then could have anticipated that Kash Patel and Dan Bongino would be running the FBI. There's a reckoning that's coming. Christopher Wray and Adam Schiff, all of these folks... who were engaged in the weaponization of our law enforcement community, every single last one of them are going to face a reckoning. And I believe that. This is fire and brimstone time. And according to Politico, the Democrats are in complete and utter despair They're in despair over what Trump is doing. It infuriates me that they weren't feeling despair over the condition of our open border or the lawlessness in America or shoplifters going free or wars all over the world. A new day has arrived. And obviously, if you're not on board politically with what Trump is doing, you're having a rough time. You're having a real rough go of it. I saw a report this morning that dozens of teenagers in Texas died from fentanyl overdoses from drugs that were suspected to have been brought into this country across the southern border. There are so many examples of the way illegal immigration has upended our way of life. And at CPAC last week, Tom Holman, the border czar, had a very plaintive, clear, and concise message for anybody who doesn't like what the Trump administration is doing.
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Police Commissioner Boston. You said you doubled down on not helping the law enforcement office of ICE. I'm coming to Boston, I'm bringing hell with me. I looked at the numbers this morning. I counted, I stopped counting at nine. Nine child rapists that were in jail in Massachusetts, but rather than honoring an ICE detainer, released them back into the street. You're not a police commissioner. Take that badge off your chest. Put it in the desk drawer because you became a politician. You forgot what it's like to be a cop.
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He's right. So many of these law enforcement officials who say they're going to defy the Trump administration, they have forgotten what it means to be a cop. They don't know. They don't care. And the funny thing is, the people on the left, think we're the idiots. The people on the left, the Democrats, the media, they think Tom Holman and Dan Bongino and Kash Patel and Pam Bondi and Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, and all of us who support them, they think we're the idiots. Don't believe me? Check out Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
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these people are just idiots. I really, you know, I'm at the point where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people because the level of stupidity that they are displaying every single day, it's frankly embarrassing, not just in Congress, but as Americans. And the fact that these people are allowed to say just the most ridiculous things How else do we get a Trump presidency again?
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Yep, just a bunch of idiots. That's what led to it. That's what despair sounds like. You want to hear some more? How about Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, the pride and joy of Texas?
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These are just the facts. When you look at who's voting for who, the less educated folk. And when I say educated, I'm not even talking about formal education. I'm talking about people that literally don't want to read and enlighten themselves on facts. Those are the people that typically vote for the Republicans. And it's one of the reasons that we have to stop writing in theses as Democrats.
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Right.
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Like we want to give you every single little. detail that we can find so that you can have all the information. But the reality is that the average person that is going out there and voting, they're not paying attention to that. And we fail to realize how selfish people are. People go out and they vote in their own self-interest. Right. And so you had all these races that showed up and decided that they were going to vote for the other races because they thought, hey, we are all the same. But the reality is that he is a rich racist. OK. And so when he decided that he was going to look out for somebody, Not the rest of y'all.
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I love the analysis that people only vote to advance their own self-interest. No, no, no. I want to advance your interest, lady. I want to vote for you. You don't like rich white guys? Well, you want me to vote for a rich black woman like you. Oh, yeah, and she's rich. Jasmine Crockett is real rich. So those are a couple of the stars of the Democrat Party. I thought, well, let's look at, this feels like desperation. This feels like panic. This feels like mass anxiety. What about some of the more level-headed Democrats? Like, I don't know, James Carville.
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This whole thing is collapsing. I believe that this administration, in less than 30 days, in the midst of a massive collapse... In particularly a collapse in public opinion. De La Vope at Harvard, who's very good. I used to think once I saw a Harvard youth poll, I discounted it. I've come to say it's a pretty damn good poll. Pretty good guy. He's gone from 53 approval to under 30 to 39. That's a collapse. We're in the midst of a collapse. This is the lowest approval not even close that any president has ever had at a comparable time. Again, that's a provable fact. So they're not going to be able to get a debt extension. That's pretty clear. I don't think they're going to be able to pass reconciliation, but I'm not sure. But they're going to have to go to Hakeem. And that is going to be the equivalent of stacking arms. It's over. We can't go without you. And I think the House Democrats, and this is going to shock a lot of people, I think they know exactly what they're doing and they know exactly what's going to happen.
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Now, what I love about it is he knows better. I can't speak for the wild-eyed antics of Jasmine Crockett or Ilhan Omar, but I've covered Carville for years. Guy's been around 100 years. He knows the score. If he's going to go on a podcast and lie like that, and he is lying, there's no poll that shows Trump going from 53 to 39. In fact, you want to hear some polling? Evidently, Carville didn't catch Steve Karnacki, the NBC pollster, who said this.
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He's done some things, proposed some things that are popular, that executive order to expand oil and gas production, the executive order recognizing two sexes. And also, when you look at immigration, there's all sorts of different ways to ask about it. But the CBS poll here had asked the general Trump administration program to deport immigrants who are here illegally. You see broad support there when it's asked at the broad level like that.
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Oh, broad support? Is that what you said, NBC? Oh, that was yesterday? The other day, James Carville said the utter collapse is underway. What I like about the James Carville clip, and that to me is way more significant than anything that lunatic Jasmine Crockett or that despicable Ilhan Omar could say. Carville knows better. So if he's willing to lie like that... He is in utter despair. Politico is right. Democrats are facing complete panic, despair, chaos. They got no plan. They've got nothing. And the biggest lie of all is Carville confidently saying. The Democrats know exactly what they're doing. The House Democrats know exactly what they're doing.
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I know exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah, sure they do. Give me some more foghorn leghorn, because they don't have a clue. They're lost at sea. We know it. And best part of all, James Carville, you know it. Welcome in. It's a Monday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show. Off to Dallas after the show today. We'll be broadcasting from the National Religious Broadcasters Convention at the beautiful Gaylord Resort, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Hope you can tune in for that. And we're everywhere today. We're streaming live on X. Follow us at Gallagher Show and take the show with you wherever you go. You can watch the Salem News Channel stream on X and Facebook. We are back on Facebook. And I threw a tantrum this morning. We only had a couple hundred followers because we've been out in the wilderness on Facebook for a long time. Now we're back. We're getting there. Over 1,200 people or so liking us or following us or whatever that is. So check us out on Facebook as well. MikeOnline.com is the show website for all things Team Gallagher. Our phone number, one number does it all. One call, call or text. 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. Welcome in. Hope you join us.
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As our friend and colleague Dennis Prager continues to recover from the fall that he experienced a few months ago, you can still get your daily dose of Dennis at pragertopia.com. Become a Pragertopia member. Listen to full episodes of the Dennis Prager Show anytime you want. Go to pragertopia.com and join today. Gosh, somebody just gave me flack from Iowa. Oh, way to go, Mike. You gave away the ending of the movie. This is not a movie. that normal people, I think, would want to go see. Incidentally, we have to correct, I believe, Roger, who is never wrong, but I think he may have misspoke about Pope Benedict. who was Pope Francis' predecessor. He is not still alive and living in the papal apartments. He passed away a couple of years ago, I believe, on New Year's of 2022. So Pope Benedict is no longer alive. I remember when that happened. And again, I'm not that plugged into all things Catholic Church related, but I didn't think popes resigned or retired. And I don't know if it had something to do with the sex scandal of the Catholic Church or if there was some kind of corruption going on. I have absolutely no idea why that played out the way it did. But it sounds like Pope Francis is not doing so well. And again, I don't want to be disrespectful to the millions and millions of Catholics in America who, you know, clearly are watching with... great interest in how this is going to play out. There is evil, though, all around us. We're seeing a response to the weaponization of the FBI and the Justice Department by Trump selecting folks like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino to head up the FBI. Let me give you an example of the kind of evil... That is among us. We've seen the anti-Semitism, the protests on college campuses. We've seen hateful, horrific acts of random violence against strangers. Here's an actress. I don't know anything about Natasha Lyonne. I don't have any idea what she's in, what she's from. But she gave an interview at the SAG Awards. That was apparently last night. And I want to share with you what she said about her concerns regarding abortion rights in America being taken away from people.
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Like beyond the sort of dialectic around oligarchs and whatever else, it's like when I think of the kids or like the 12-year-old girl that can't get an abortion or something or, you know, that's what really like rips me apart that I, so, but you know, this is America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, this is America where you get to be ripped apart because of that 12-year-old girl who can't get an abortion. And imagine having a debate about that, that you give an interview at an awards show as if anybody cares what an actress thinks, and she's ripped apart because a 12-year-old can't get an abortion. Interesting to know where that actress's priorities lie. I also want to remind you of a great shout-out that President Trump delivered at the CPAC conference. This wrapped up over the weekend. President Trump was, of course, the final speaker. And he noticed to his left that Mike Lindell was in the audience, the CEO of MyPillow. And every single day we get to tell you about MyPillow products, the great Mike Lindell. It's been a while since Mike's been on the show. We've got to get him back, Tracy. Let's get Mike back on. I'll reach out to the team and get him back on here soon. I loved what President Trump said about Mike. You know, I... I don't know about you, but when I saw the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago, and we talked about this on the show a lot, I felt this sort of rage. I felt this visceral gut punch that if they can do that to him, they can do this to anybody. And that's probably why he got elected. Americans said, no, you're not going to kick him around this way. You're not going to raid his home. You're not going to harass him. Good people. Mike Lindell is a good guy. And for a good man like MyPillow's Mike Lindell to have FBI agents swarm around him while waiting at a drive-thru at a Hardee's restaurant in Minnesota after a hunting trip. This is early in the morning, crack of dawn. And he's going through the drive-thru at a Hardee's, and all these vehicles pull up. He told the story on the show with us before, how FBI agents... confiscated his cell phone because of his belief in election integrity, because of his friendship with Donald Trump, because of the politicization of the FBI and law enforcement. And President Trump is very, very aware of what Mike Lindell has been put through, and that's why he gave him this big shout-out at the CPAC conference the other day.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm pointing to Mike Lindell. That man suffered. That man suffered. The FBI thugs went up to him, and they took away everything he had. He suffered. And Mrs. Lindell was a great guy. They went after him. It was just terrible. This was a vicious weaponization of your government. But he's all, I'll tell you, he stood up. He's all man. He stood up. He stood up strong. And nothing was going to faze him. And I want to thank you on behalf of everybody, Mike. You put up with a tremendous amount.
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I get so frustrated when I see people like Mike Lindell who always stood up for not only President Trump but for his belief in election integrity. And I would always say, gosh, I want to be able to do more. What can I do to help? And the best thing I can do to help as far as I'm concerned is connect you with this great company. These products from MyPillow, you'll see them when they arrive in the box. If you've never ordered products from MyPillow, where do you see how they're packaged? Where do you see how they're delivered? Whether it's the standard classic MyPillow for only $14.98 or the MySlippers or the doggy beds or the mattress top or whatever product you might want to order. And you know what I love about it? In almost every product that I've ever ordered over the years from MyPillow, they include a little Bible verse on a little slip of paper. In my bedroom closet, I've got about 20 of those Bible verses taped up on the mirror from the years that I've been ordering my pillow products. Mike is a good man, a good and decent man, and they should have never put him through what they put him through. And they're not finished yet. They're not through with him yet. So you could stand in the breach and support this great American company. When you go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials square. There's a box. Click on that square. And then when you place your order, whether it's for the Giza Dream Sheets or the standard classic MyPillow or whatever the product, kitchen towels, so much. And the flannel sheets are out of this world. You'll save over 50% when you enter the promo code MikeG. Whenever you place your order, enter the promo code MikeG so you can save big. MyPillow.com. Don't forget to enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. They're also offering now the cross that Mike always wears around his neck. A lot of people said, I'd love to get my hands on this. a cross like that for my wife or my husband, that's available too. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, like we love to sing.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 05 :
I am absolutely spent just trying to prepare the show. I am exhausted by Monday morning at 735. There's like 11 things. That happened since we were, well, we would have been together Friday morning. That's right. Let's start with me trying to stick to my rule of never. wallowing in the joy of a reprehensible person being fired for a job. I know. I don't like it when people celebrate somebody's career demise. But, but, but, Joy Reid is as odious as anybody out there on television. Yep. She is so grotesque. She is. And it turns out calling everybody a racist Nazi every night evidently doesn't doesn't even work for MSNBC.
SPEAKER 16 :
I would love to think that at MSNBC they had a meeting and said, look, we are the liberal Trump hating network. But but she's too toxic even for us. OK, and maybe that is what happened. But they still employ Rachel Maddow. They still employ Lawrence O'Donnell. Every other show has the same garbage. So I don't think this is some epiphany from them. Have you seen who they're going to replace her with?
SPEAKER 05 :
You think Simone Sanders is any better than Joy Reid?
SPEAKER 16 :
That's kind of where I'm going.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or Michael Steele or the or the or the daughter of the disgraced Bob Menendez of New Jersey. That's the trio that they're going to replace her with. So, no, it has nothing. She's just not good. I mean, she's she's not very smart. I mean, and she has been in. So anyway, you got joy. This is our weekend. Joy Reed is out. Dan Bongino is in. As FBI deputy director, if you told me a year ago, I'd wake up one morning and tell my buddy Mark Davis, well, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are going to run Trump's FBI. Yep. I would have thought you were crazy. Yep. Now, you said something earlier that rings true. This is exactly what we voted for. Yeah. Byron York had a very wry observation this morning on social media, saying that Politico is writing how the selection of Dan Bongino is really, really leading the left to great despair over the weaponization. Thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
To have that politicization removed looks like politicization, since everything's relative, right? It's like when Twitter went from being a conservative muzzle to free speech, it made it look like they went hardcore right-wing to some people who are hardcore left-wing. Everything's relative.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it's all relative, and I am, all I can think of is they made a big mistake when they raided her underwear, Melania's underwear drawer.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Blank around and find out. And now we're in the find out portion of when that happened. I'm not kidding you. This is Trump, as the kids say, he doesn't have two craps to give. He doesn't care about optics. He doesn't care about any of it. He is like, you know what? We're going to, I got four years. to turn this whole ship around, and he's going to blow up every single sacred cow there is. Meanwhile, he fires the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. You know, not noticed on the mainstream media radar is the James O'Keefe video, where O'Keefe released a video that purportedly showed a high-level Pentagon official discovering secret meetings to defy and potentially overthrow Trump if he issued orders deemed controversial by military leadership. Let's just take stock here. All Trump did, what Trump did was he prevented a coup. And this guy, this chairman of the Joint Chiefs, is well-known to be woke, well-known all about diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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Which does not help us win wars.
SPEAKER 05 :
It does not help us win wars, has no place for that. And look, they all serve at the pleasure of the president. There's nothing unusual about this. Imagine your employer saying to you, Mark, I want you to give me an email. Tell us five things you accomplished last week. And your head blows up. Exactly. Well, now in your case, yours might. Now, yours might. I mean, I don't think they would do that with you, but they could with me. I don't know. And I say, okay, well, here's what I did. I achieved this. We got that. But instead, they're losing their marbles. This is absolutely – and here's the big mistake everybody makes on this whole purging of the federal workforce. They all apply it to Elon Musk. Elon Musk serves at the pleasure of the president. This is Trump's doge. It's not Elon Musk's doge. This is a little game they're playing in the media because they want to have a rift between Elon and Trump. It isn't going to work. They don't care. They don't care. Let them do it. Let them bellyache. Let them whimper. Let them whine. Let them flip out. Let them refuse to go to the White House like the Philadelphia Eagles are doing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Had not gotten to this. The Philadelphia Eagles sent a little informal poll around the room and they all most of them came back with a hard no that they will not go to the White House as championship teams in various sports traditionally have done for decades.
SPEAKER 05 :
Another reason to hate the Eagles.
SPEAKER 16 :
As if I needed one. And so consistency check, it led me to post last night, shame on any team that does not accept the White House invitation. And I would say that even if I were fighting my way through a miserable Kamala Harris presidency.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, look at the chiefs. The chiefs went to the Biden White House to be acknowledged. And I don't think a lot of those guys like Joe Biden. A lot of them are pretty. They're pretty MAGA. You know, that's why I was really, really, really rooting for the chiefs. And I'm sad about it. But there's just classless. It's tacky. That's who they are. They're just they're just they're just a bunch of garbage people. And and again, let them let them bellyache. They don't have to go. Who cares? Don't don't go. It gives President Trump more time to do something else.
SPEAKER 16 :
Of course, of course, of course. And this is no higher than the 7,000th most important thing in any given day. But decorum and manners and decency mean something. Well, it does to you and me. It should.
SPEAKER 05 :
It does to you and me. No, it doesn't matter to a lot of people, unfortunately, on the left who are melting down. in a magnificent way. Honest to goodness, when I was at the White House last week and talked to Gorka, and I've never seen him so happy. I talked to him again over the weekend. I mean, it really, we just have to remember that all these things that are being rolled out are precisely what the American people expect, what we voted for, and what we're going to witness.
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And they're actually happening. That's why there's such shock. They're actually happening throughout your entire life and mine. Republicans win. Yay. We're looking for better results than if a Democrat had won. Absolutely. But we're going to have usually 14 blue ribbon panels and 27 legislative committees, and your grandchildren will be grown before actual change happens. We're a month in, a month into Trump 2.0. Look at all the change. The change is real. It is blinding in its pace, and things are actually happening, and that is a historic first. Oh, it's huge.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's huge. That's why I'm excited about coming to the Metroplex. I'll be on the plane later today. We're headed to Dallas for the big National Religious Broadcasters Convention over at the Gaylord. We had a staffer over there, not part of my show, but a staffer who wrote to one of the Salem executives and said, gosh, it's so expensive to eat here. Are there places off property that I can go get lunch? I can't afford the meals here at the Gaylord.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just upstairs. You know who's upstairs right now? Literally, I went up and said hi at 6 o'clock this morning. Chris Stegall and his producer, Eddie. Fast Eddie. Fast Eddie, exactly. Who I talked to, I filled in for Stegall last week. And so it was great to see these guys. And they're staying at the Gaylord. And so I was giving them all kinds of restaurant recommendations in Grapevine and Southlake, just like delis and other sort of some medium-cost things and low-cost things and some other high-dollar things just for whatever they want to do. And he said, yeah, listen, the chicken fingers and a Coke for $30, that's just not sustainable.
SPEAKER 03 :
Who said that? Chris? No, Eddie.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, Eddie, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Eddie's not happy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it was kind of funny. Obviously, you just outed him because he's the guy that was concerned about the prices at the hotel. Oh, that's awesome. I wasn't going to mention his name.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, both Chris and Eddie are going to come down and sit in with me at about 835 for a quick segment. So I will...
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Well, tell Eddie, remind Eddie that he is on a business trip and he's allowed to expense his meals. He may not know how Salem works, but when they travel, when any of us travel, you're allowed to turn. Now, where are we going? Mesa? I forget. What restaurant are we going to? We're going...
SPEAKER 16 :
You want to be mobbed? No. There will be no mention made of that. We have a very special group of listeners that you have been kind enough to gather. And then we will be doing that tomorrow at noon, which is awesome. And then we'll talk about it afterward.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wait a minute. You're not mentioning the restaurant? Dude, are you crazy? Why? Why not? Do you want to be mobbed in the parking lot? Sure, why not? What the heck? Why not? We'll say hi to people.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, Lord.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're meeting in secret? This is a secret society? Now, wait a minute. Go back. Let me remind everybody. We did a big, you came up with a great idea. You offered eight people to join us for an in-person M&M experience for life. For a donation to Food for the Porg. A thousand bucks, which is great. Just a quick, cool $8,000, which will feed a lot of kids, save a lot of lives. I agreed to meet you with these eight wonderful people for lunch tomorrow after I get off the air. And you're going to tell me where to go?
SPEAKER 16 :
I texted it to you. You know where to go. They know where to go. I'm not going to have our time with these generous people splintered out because, you know, 50 other folks decided. Market to market.
SPEAKER 03 :
You are seriously keeping this a secret?
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100%.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is there a secret handshake at the door? It's a password.
SPEAKER 16 :
Is there a password? The people who show up, they knock three times and say, the coyote howls at midnight.
SPEAKER 05 :
I got a password. Mark is a kook. That's my, there's my password. Mark is a kook. All right, well, should I wear glasses? Should I wear dark glasses? Should I wear a trench coat? Oh, no, I want to know. Come on, where are we going? You're not going to say? Nope. Rhonda, what's wrong with this guy?
SPEAKER 16 :
We'll tell everybody on Wednesday. It'll be great.
SPEAKER 05 :
On Wednesday.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's going to be a lot of fun. Have you met people? You're the guy who's on a cruise and is mobbed by people because it's the magic of you. I love it. And by the way, you're why this is necessary because I can walk around and nobody cares. Are you kidding me? You come rolling in, and it's the Beatles on Ed Sullivan's.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, please. You're the legend around here. You're the legend. I think you need to give people an opportunity to wave at you. Do we have a round? You were really big about having a round table.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, because if you've got 10 total people, the long table doesn't work, because if you're at one end, then, you know, you hardly feel like it. Right, right. Exactly. So did you guys set up a round table? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
At what restaurant?
SPEAKER 15 :
Look at the time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Where are we going? I can't believe. I'm going to tell anybody. You text me. And if you want to know, 800-655-MIKE. Let me look at my text. I may or may not send it out. I think this is crazy. I don't know. Okay. It's going to be fun.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's like role reversal Monday. Because we love the public. Please look what we do.
SPEAKER 05 :
The rumor that Mike Gallagher never leaves his state room on those cruises is just simply not true. It's a vicious rumor. I love to get out and greet and meet and kiss babies. I am a man of the people. Now, Mark, on the other hand, you've got to do this.
SPEAKER 16 :
If the idea is for me to be in a room of 500 people and shake every hand, I'll be in a room of 500 people and shake every hand. If the idea is to take eight people at something that is specifically supposed to be for them, I'll be darned if I'm going to send up a smoke signal that goes, Mark and Margaret,
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I can happily report that people are completely agreeing with you on the text line. Here's Dallas. Oh, my goodness, Mike. People pay big bucks to be there with you and Mark. It is an exclusive event. Although Carlotta in Garland says, no, no, mention the name of the restaurant we want to be there.
SPEAKER 16 :
We'll tell you all about it on Wednesday.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Wednesday it is, and I'll see you tomorrow morning in person. Safe travels.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, love you. So are we going to be looking at you at the Gaylord from your broadcast operation?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I'm going to be broadcasting from the Perch. We're going to be on the stage there on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday for the big NRP. Can't wait. See you soon. Safe travels, man.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you. That is Mike. He joins us tomorrow every day, 10 a.m., as soon as we're done, right here on 660 AM.
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So right there you know that he's nonpartisan. He just goes in and he does his job. He's written several books, and the one he released in 2021, Follow the Money, is going to give you some insight into how he may conduct himself in his new role as deputy director of the FBI. The teaser on Amazon for Follow the Money reads as follows. It says, Follow the Money exposes the labyrinth of connections between D.C.' 's slimiest swamp creatures, Democrat operatives, lying informants, desperate and destructive FBI agents, Obama power brokers, CIA renegade John Brennan, George Soros, and more, who conspired to attack Trump by manufacturing one bogus scandal after another. So if you're a deep state operative who's been involved with the Russian collusion hoax or any other false attack on Trump, or you're a trafficker of any kind, or you're engaged in corruption and criminal activity, no matter who you are or what position you hold in government, Bongino is going to have your number, and you should be very afraid. So I am just tickled pink with this FBI structure that we've got going on. I love it. So in other news, did you see, this is so funny to me, did you see Trump in the Oval Office talking about the Resolute Desk? The desk he was sitting at was different than the one that was there when he took office. And he was telling the press that the other desk was getting refurbished. He said he was getting a light refurbishment or whatever, and that it was one of seven desks that can be used in that office. Shortly after that, I saw something online that said Trump had the desk removed to be cleaned up after Elon Musk and his son, little X, were in there giving that press conference that you guys all saw. And that little X wiped a booger on it. OK, that's what the story was, which I thought was hilarious. But I guess that wasn't the case. And. Who knows? Maybe Little X did use the desk as his little finger scraper, but that's not why the desk was switched out. This is very interesting because when you do a search for resolute desk removed from Oval Office, so you go to Google and you do that search, the first page of results is all about Trump being a germaphobe and how he had the desk removed. that had been there for 145 years and all the mainstream media is portraying Trump as some kind of a weird clean freak or whatever. Of course, they're going to make it, you know, they're going to turn it into a negative against Trump. But the second page of search results is where it gets interesting. So, of course, these results are from media people outside of the legacy media. So sites like AR15.com and godlikeproductions.com, trendsnews.com, theboresite.com, michaelcronin.com, and they're all saying that the desk was removed because a security sweep of the Oval Office uncovered something suspicious in the desk. From a post on lunaticoutpost.com, it says, listening devices found in Oval Office. President's desk removed for security scan, Washington, D.C., February 21, 2025. In a shocking revelation that has sent ripples through Washington, sources within the White House have confirmed that the Oval Office, including the historic Resolute Desk, was subject to a high-level security sweep following suspicions of covert surveillance. The sweep reportedly uncovered sophisticated listening devices, leading to the immediate removal of the President's desk for a comprehensive off-site scan. A senior official speaking anonymously revealed that the discovery followed routine electronic countermeasures that detected unusual signals. He says, quote, the anomalies were subtle but consistent, enough to trigger a full investigation. He goes on, we couldn't risk compromising the integrity of the president's workspace. Specialized teams using cutting-edge radio frequency detection technology were dispatched and initial findings allegedly pointed to concealed audio surveillance devices hidden within the office. The resolute desk, gifted by Queen Victoria in 1880, was transported to a secure undisclosed location for thorough inspection by counterintelligence and forensic tech experts. Early reports suggest at least one miniature transmitter small enough to evade standard detection may have been embedded within the desk structure. Official confirmation of this discovery is still pending. White House spokesperson Emily Harrow declined to provide specifics, but confirmed that enhanced security measures had been put into effect. The administration takes all potential threats to national security seriously, Harrow stated at a presser. So what do you think about that? Would it really surprise anyone to learn that Trump's being spied on again? Aren't these people kind of desperate? And I think they're going to pretty much do whatever they can get away with. And something, you know, they had a long time between Trump winning the election and him actually being inaugurated and taking over the Oval Office. They had a lot of time to do whatever they wanted to do. So there you go. If you want to talk about anything that I'm talking about today, you can give me a call, 303-477-5600. I'd love to chat with you about anything. So I had a really big section of today's show dedicated once again to SB 25003, that ban on semi-automatic firearms. And I've seen conflicting viewpoints on whether or not this ban would include common use and like everyday carry handguns, such as the P365 by SIG or the Glock 19 or whatever. The first part of the bill reads as follows. It says the bill defines a, quote, specified semi-automatic firearm as a semi-automatic firearm or semi-automatic shotgun with a detachable magazine or a gas-operated semi-automatic handgun with a detachable magazine, okay? That's what the top portion says. And I pulled the text off of the latest version of the bill, okay? And then lower in the bill, it says, It describes a semi-automatic firearm as, quote, semi-automatic firearm means a firearm that is not a machine gun and that upon initiating the firing sequence fires the first chambered cartridge and uses a portion of the energy of the firing cartridge to extract the expended cartridge case chamber the next round, and prepare the firing mechanism to fire again and requires a separate pull, release, push, or initiation of the trigger to fire each cartridge. Semi-automatic firearm includes a semi-automatic rifle, semi-automatic shotgun, or semi-automatic handgun. So it lists that at the same time. And then they use terms like gas-operated firearms. So they say stuff like semi-automatic rifle, semi-automatic shotgun, and gas-operated handgun. But in my mind, they can use the term gas-operated with a gun like a Glock or a SIG or a Staccato or whatever because technically it is gas that propels the bullet down the bore and out of the muzzle and then cycles the action and chambers the next round. So if you're an attorney – or some other kind of expert in legalese, and you understand the way these cagey legislators, like, word things to get stuff snuck into law, can you please call? Because I would love to hear what your thoughts are on this. So there's a whole school of thought that says that it's not going to include semi-automatic handguns that are very common use, like we all have and carry and whatever. And then there's a school of thought that says that it will. include those guns. So I would love to hear what you think. 303-477-5600. Please give me a call if you know what this stuff is all about and how they're wording this. So on to a different topic. I read a headline this morning from Fox News that has me pretty irritated. The gears are, it's grinding my gears and steaming my beans. It says, new bat coronavirus discovered in China sparks pandemic concerns. Although similar to SARS-CoV-2, the new virus is much less powerful, doctors say. The discovery of a new bat coronavirus in China has sparked concerns about another pandemic. The virus named HKU5-CoV-2 is similar to SARS-CoV-2. the virus that causes COVID-19, in that it targets the same human receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme, or ACE2, according to a report in the South China Morning Post. HKU5-COV2 could potentially lead to human-to-human or even cross-species transmission, the researchers found. The research team was led by Zhangli Shi at the Guangzhou Laboratory in Guangdong, China. She, who is known as the Bat Woman, worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China, which came under fire as the potential source of COVID-19. The discovery of a new bat coronavirus in China has sparked concerns about another pandemic. This study, this is a quote, this study reveals a distinct lineage of HKU5CoVS in bats that efficiently use human ACE2 and underscores their potential zoonotic risk. The researchers wrote in a study which was published in the scientific journal Cell on February 18th. Researchers from the Guangzhou Academy of Sciences, Wuhan University, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology also contributed. In the study, HKU5-COV2 was found to infect human cells as well as artificially grown lung and intestine tissues, according to reports. Security personnel keep watch outside the Wuhan Institute of Virology during an investigation of the origins of COVID-19 in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China, on February 3, 2021. Dr. Mark Siegel, Clinton, you guys know him if you watch Fox News, clinical professor of medicine at NYU Langone Health and Fox News Senior Medical Analyst, noted that bats are known to harbor several different species of coronaviruses. In this case, Xi Zhengli discovered that a peepistrelis species of bats is carrying HKU5CoV2 coronaviruses that is a cousin of the MERS virus, which caused a limited outbreak in humans in 2012. Even as we continue to investigate potential human pathogens, it is very important that we not give in to fear. Got that? This particular strain has an ability to bind to the same receptor in the lungs, nose, and respiratory passages that allowed SARS-CoV-2 to infect humans. So there is a chance of what is known to zoonotic effect, spillover where the virus could also infect humans and go human to human, he confirmed. So there you go. If it's not bird flu or monkeypox or whatever, we're going to be, we'll just come up with another one, right? So this HKU, I don't know what the, we'll shorten that to something and it'll create a different disease, COVID-20 maybe, I don't know. But it's just maddening what these people are doing. I personally, I think that all of this research and this gain of function and everything that they're doing, why do they, why, why do they do this? Because, and then they inject you with a vaccine that's worse than, you know, what the disease was in the first place. To me, I don't know. We're all human. The human body is a miraculous machine. And I don't really see why we can't just, you know, we've got our polio and our measles and our mumps and rubella and all that stuff. Just leave it at that. We've got immune systems that are, well, they were pretty strong at one time until we started getting sprayed with chemicals in the sky and the chemicals in the food and water and whatever. So that's a whole Robert F. Kennedy Jr. discussion there. But on to more health stuff. You guys, if you listen to this show, you know that this topic is just, it's more than bean steaming to me. This is just complete madness. Children's Hospital plans to restart gender-affirming care as Colorado joins lawsuit against the executive order. This story is by Heather Willard. Weeks after Denver Health announced it was pausing gender-affirming care to LGBTQIA, LMNOP, XYZ, that's not what it says really, but people under 19 years old citing the potential to lose its federal funding, Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser announced the state is joining a lawsuit against aimed at invalidating the executive order that threatened such funding. The executive order issued by President Donald Trump signed January 28th is part of a push to reverse Biden administration policies meant to protect transgender people and their care. It ordered agencies to take steps to make sure that hospitals receiving federal research and education grants end the chemical and surgical mutilation of children. Who could be against that, right? It goes on. The order was temporarily blocked on February 14th by a federal judge who said the executive order, quote, blatantly discriminated against trans youth. The White House executive order is not only illegal, but also cruel, Weiser said in a release on Wednesday. I've met with health care providers and parents, and they fear that if the executive order is allowed to stand in It will result in irreversible physical and mental harms for transgender youth. Let's talk about irreversible physical harms, shall we? More on that in a second. It goes on. Parents in consultation with trusted medical providers know what is best for their child and should have the option to seek the care that their child needs to live their best lives, Wiser continued. Gender affirming care is legally protected health care in Colorado and with this lawsuit Colorado hospitals will again be free to provide critical care. wiser said that it's not just Denver health that pause gender affirming care. The University of Colorado and shoots medical campus stopped providing puberty delaying medications and hormone therapy to patients who had been evaluated that had not yet started those therapies. Quote, denying access to medical care that is known to be safe and effective threatens the ability of transgender youth to thrive socially and academically, Weiser argued in his office's release. Their marginalization will exacerbate dysphoria, mood symptoms, and ultimately may cause some previously stable transgender youth to attempt suicide, according to medical professionals. Children's Hospital will restart gender-affirming care. Goodness gracious. I'm going to finish reading this when we get back, and I'm going to give you some of my never-to-be-humble opinion. We'll be right back.
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And we are back. I was right in the middle of reading this article from KDVR, Fox 31, on Children's Hospital deciding to just ignore President Trump's executive order regarding gender-affirming care. I hate that term, but anyway, it is what it is. I'm going to talk a little bit more about this whole, just my opinions on this. But first, I've got Jim on the line. What do you got for me, Jim?
SPEAKER 02 :
Hey, yeah, talking about Cash Patel and Dan Bonaginio, or I can't remember his name. It's Bongino. Bongino, that's it. So, you know, I'll tell you what. I got all giddy when Cash Patel, and then when I saw Dan's thing yesterday, about being a director, assistant director. I thought, wow. And did you see the stuff on TikTok about the CIA safe house?
SPEAKER 04 :
I did not.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. They broke into some CIA safe house that had all these servers that the CIA was using, and they're all connected to, to this whole COVID thing. I guess it's got all kinds of stuff in there connected to the whole COVID thing and the cover-up on it. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was pretty exciting. Yeah, and then did you see the thing about that four-star general that was shredding all these documents?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I did see that. It's like 2 in the morning or something, and he's in there shredding stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, anyway, so here's what I'm thinking here, Karen. With these guys being in charge now, you know, the whole election thing for 2020, you know, I'm right there with you on that whole thing. And, you know, I'm going to tell you, I hope the FBI gets a hold of their servers or those computer machines for the elections in the 2020s. And I hope they find out that that thing, whole thing, was rigged. I really do.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I hope Tina Peters gets some justice for what she's gone through. And I hope she sues the pants off of Jenna Griswold.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I do too. And I'll tell you what, that... You just what's the name of that place that had that built those those computer things for the for the for the election?
SPEAKER 04 :
Dominion.
SPEAKER 02 :
Dominion. Oh, and I and I and I hope I hope they find out that Dominion and the CIA was involved in that whole thing. I hope Dominion, you know, Dominion got billions of dollars out of that whole out of that whole lawsuit. I'd love to see better than. I'd love nothing better than to see Dominion get caught up and find out that they were dirty and the owners of that Dominion end up going to prison.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and we know that he was. I mean, he was on camera saying that he's already made sure that Trump's not going to effing win. I mean, how much more proof do you need? And then all of them are connected to the Internet, and that was found out. Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, so, yeah, I'm just real giddy about this whole thing. I'm just so excited. And then I was watching a thing on – with Adam Schiff during the confirmation for Cash Patel, and I'm going to tell you something. I hope he goes after Adam Schiff, too, and the rest of those guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 02 :
They are so dirty.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and with Dan Bongino because – Have you ever seen the speech that he gave? It was like a TED Talk, I think, or something. I can't remember where he was or what he was doing, but he gave a speech. And he read every name in that whole entire Russia collusion hoax thing. He read every name, connected every dot. And the way he laid it out, it was unbelievable. And I watched the entire thing. And, you know, I've been listening to Dan Bongino for a really long time on his radio show and on his podcast. And so I know how he thinks. And these people should be shaking in their boots right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, I'm telling you. And, you know, here's the other thing. I just told my wife this morning, too, Karen. You know, old Biden, he pardoned all these people. But the biggest question with all these pardons was he was pardoning them for – for stuff that they have not even been prosecuted for yet. And as far as I know, the only time pardons are good are for people that have already been sentenced or prosecuted and sentenced. And I hope all these people end up going down, and I hope it does go before the Supreme Court, because if it goes before the Supreme Court, I think they're going to find it in favor of Donald Trump and all this stuff with these guys being crooked.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, absolutely, absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER 04 :
I'm here for it. I got my popcorn. I'm ready to watch and see what happens. And, you know, things are going to get crazy. They really are, but I'm here for it, whatever.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bring it on. I can't even hardly wait to turn on the radio every morning and listen to all the new news coming out about what's going on, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, it's a flood. It's a flood. Drinking from a fire hose. I don't even know how to put my show together anymore because there's so much stuff. Jim, I appreciate your call. Thank you so much. You bet. Bye. So I'm going to continue on with this article with Colorado Children's Hospital Restarting Gender Affirming Care. It says, on Thursday, Children's Hospital Colorado, which is housed on the CU Anschutz Medical Campus, said it was aware of the state joining the federal lawsuit filed by the state of Washington. Children's Hospital Colorado believes that families know what's best for their child. The hospital told Fox 31 on Thursday, every family should have the right to access expert medical care to support their child's well-being, including gender diverse youth. Because of the executive order issued on January 28th, we were forced to modify our model of gender affirming medical care for patients under 19 years of age. Real and immediate consequences for Colorado's economy. The hospital noted that the temporary restraining order was provided to the states that had been involved in the case at the time, Washington, Oregon, and Minnesota. It says when the court extends the temporary restraining order to Colorado, Children's Hospital will plan to resume gender-affirming medical care, including puberty blocking and hormone-based care on February 24th. Children's Hospital told Colorado Fox 31. We are in the process of notifying affected families who depend on us for care. The hospital added that it continues to assess the rapidly changing legal and medical landscape of the United States and will provide the highest quality specialty pediatric care within the scope of the law. If you listen to this show, you know it is no mystery how I feel about this stuff. I believe that true gender dysphoria is extremely rare, only about 0.5% of the population, and is considered now to be a genetic disorder affecting the pathways of the brain relating to estrogen production. In a Newsweek article, a doctor is quoted as saying, a person's gender identity is more likely the result of a complex interplay between multiple genes as well as, and get this, as well as environmental and societal factors. Okay. Well, no kidding. I'd like to say more of the environmental and societal factors are at play than anything. I mean, look at the celebrities, all of these celebrities. I can't even, I think Will Smith and Charlize Theron and, um, Oh, what's her face? Beatty. Warren Beatty and his wife. And Cher, obviously. She probably had the most famous trans kid. But what are the chances of all these celebrities having trans kids? I'm no statistician, but I'd say the chances are pretty freaking low. Personally, I think most, most, not all, but most celebrities of these kids become trans so they can stand out, especially the celebrity kids. They need to stand out. They need to be equal to their parents in stature for some reason, any reason. Or maybe normal kids that aren't the child of a celebrity, they just want to defy their parents or they're rebellious or whatever. It's just a social statement or whatever. Like the furries. I mean, really? Has science ever explained why you think you're a cat or a horse or whatever? You know what? If it's a phase and they just go about their lives as if they're the opposite gender, you know what? Have at it. Go for it. Have fun with it. Whatever. Dress as a boy. Cut all your hair off. You know, whatever. Dress as a girl. Wear makeup. Grow your hair out long. Whatever. It's when teachers and psychotic parents who want a trans trophy child so they can fit in with their liberal progressive book club group or whatever. And then medical people get involved and start suggesting puberty blockers and hormone therapy programs. and ultimately surgery to a 9-year-old or even a 14- or 15-year-old, I don't care how old they are. They're not done growing, and they're not done developing, and they're certainly not done mentally developing. That's completely unacceptable when those kids are still growing and developing. I can't even comprehend the thought of surgically altering or mutilating a young child because they think they're a boy when they were born a girl or vice versa. I can't. The medical community has to do better at allowing these kids to finish growing, maybe offer some psychotherapy, you know, offer a bunch of other things before any kind of medication or hormone therapy or anything is introduced, and certainly before they whip out their scalpels and start hacking away. These progressive liberal doctors who perform these procedures on minors, they're just beholden to to the Democrat Party and to Big Pharma, period. A trans individual who completes their transition, they're dependent on the medical industrial complex for the rest of their lives. And I've seen countless interviews with people who have gone through the surgery who regret it more than anything in the world. And they know that they're ill. They know that their bodies are not right. And they know that they're not going to live very long. Why on earth are people fighting so hard for the ability for the medical community to perform transition surgery on kids? I see many of my Facebook friends saying, oh, everyone, just calm down. They're not transitioning kids. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. And even if they don't do the full surgery, they're still transitioning. They're still altering what their bodies are designed to do. Now, you've heard me talk about the depopulation agenda, and this is just part of it, in my opinion. And my opinions are not necessarily those of Crawford Broadcasting. You guys all know that. But think about it. What is the end result of transitioning a 12-year-old boy into a girl or vice versa? What's the end result? First and foremost, that person will never be able to reproduce. That's a given. When you start hacking off body parts... They're not going to be able to reproduce, right? And when, I mean, I'm not even going to go into the female to male thing because it's just, it's something out of a horror movie, if you ask me. But the more kids that they convince that they're trans, the more surgeries that they can perform, the more chronic need for mental health meds, and the fewer babies will be born. It's pretty simple biology. Just like the gun debate. Instead of addressing the mental health crisis that's responsible for the mass shootings and all the crazy stuff that happens, they just want to put a Band-Aid on it and say, well, you know, if this person shot up a school, then we're just going to take all the guns. We'll just take them all, and then nobody will have them, but they will. You know they will, and you know that this kind of stuff will continue to happen. Personally, I believe any parent who affirms their five-year-old's assertion that they're in the wrong body and then takes that kid to receive puberty blockers and continues on with this before the child reaches the age of 18 at the very youngest should be arrested and prosecuted. That's what I think. It just steams my beans when I think that a person can get a tattoo or they can't get a tattoo until they're 18 because a tattoo is permanent. It's altering your skin for life. But a 12-year-old can halt and redirect the course of nature that God intended and have her genitals removed at the age of 14 or 15? Isn't that permanent? Good grief, these people are evil. Jenny, what do you got for me?
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Karen, you're exactly right. Ditto on everything that you said. It steams your beans and it just makes me spit. Yes. This is part of cultural Marxism, and, you know, it's like that octopus, that this is just one tentacle to moving us, you know, into this culture of Marxism. They have to destroy everything that is good. I want people to remember Phil Unweiser, because this is probably his fourth or whatever... jumping on the bandwagon to block some of Trump's executive orders. One was citizenship, yeah, birthright citizenship, and now this one. And I know he's done about three or four more. So he is putting his head in the ring for governor. And you know what? We're sixth generation Coloradans, and I can't stand another perverted governor in this state. And so we have to respond. On every one of these executive orders that he signs on to fighting against, we need to be writing them down. And then during campaigning for him, we just bring all of these out because he is totally evil. And I am sure it's some you said money that's probably backing him because he probably gets some of Norm Eisen's money. Oh, I'm sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, the whole entire thing is so backwards and flipped on its head and upside down, and just the whole entire state and how it's run and these small pockets of centers, of population centers, and then the people who the town council members in Denver and the governor of Colorado, and we all know him and what he's all about, and the legislature and the Boulder Town Council and everything. All these people are making all these decisions. for this state, we're no different than California now. We really aren't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they're all outsiders, and I don't think any one of them is a Colorado native. So they made their area that they came from, you know, such a utopia that they have to come and destroy our state. But these people have no moral compass. They have no baseline other than evil. They have to do this to God's little creation, our children, because misery loves company. They can't reproduce, so they have to recruit.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, absolutely. Absolutely, Jenny. You are 100% accurate. And I don't know. God wins. We've got to figure this out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. It is like we've always said. It's a spiritual battle, you know, good versus evil, light versus dark. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. I'll continue fighting if you continue fighting. I'm never, never going to stop, Jenny, never going to stop. Okay. God bless. So speaking of someone who may not be trans, that may look trans, it seems Joy Reed's show on MSNBC, the readout has been canceled. I didn't watch it. And I, you know, that, I don't know. MSNBC is referring to it as a network overhaul. Now, if we can just get the view off of ABC, that'll be another chink in the armor there. Megyn Kelly posted on X about this, and she says, quote, remember when Joy Reid laughingly mocked white women tears as pathetic and offensive to her? Who's crying now, Joy? Good riddance to the absolute worst person on television. And shame on NBC for letting it go on this long. Libs of TikTok posted, Joy Reid has been fired. Turns out calling your political opponents racist Nazis every night for an hour doesn't get viewers. Charlie Kirk posted, Joy Reid, a.k.a. the race lady at MSNBC, just had her show canceled because it was unwatchable. Good riddance to the most vitriolic, lowbrow, and unhinged race hustler ever allowed on national television. So no love lost here. See you later, Joyless Reed. I hope I don't see your next project. If you end up once again on the wrong side of television, I will not be watching. It's funny because most of us who know who she is, we only know who she is because we watch Fox News and we see clips of her shows on other shows like the Ingram Angle or Hannity or whatever. And I know they're just showing those clips to showcase how much of a terrible person she is. But if I wanted to see her ugly mug, I'd go watch her show. But I don't. So quit showing her. Well, I guess now you kind of have to because she's not going to be on the air. But, you know, we still have to sit down and look at, you know, faces like Lemon or Limone or whatever the heck his name is. And, you know, he's still out there and all these – who's the other – the ladies that – I can't remember their names. God, it's driving me crazy. I can't remember. The one that interviewed Trump, Margaret something. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But we see all those clips all over Fox News. And, yeah, if I wanted to watch them, I'd watch their own shows. And as I was scrolling, I saw an X post that made me laugh. This made me laugh really hard, and I think I need to get a shirt made that says this. It says, Doge should be renamed to Federal Agency for Financial Oversight, or simply FAFO. I love that. What's really great is that Elon Musk reposted it, so that makes it even better. And speaking of Doge, waste, fraud, and abuse, and all that, let's talk about Jasmine Crockett for a minute. Now, she is just the latest liberal hack in the spotlight. She's griping about Trump and Elon Musk and the Doge dividend. She was on the Breakfast Club radio show, and she said she wasn't sure what $5,000 would do for us. Now, this, mind you, coming from a Texas lawmaker whose salary is around $174,000 a year, which isn't a great deal of money. But here's what's interesting. Jasmine Crockett has a net worth around $9 million, and Now, any of you listening to this right now, if you make $174,000 a year, you're probably not worth $9 million. Granted, I saw two websites, one of them being Snopes, that debunked this information, but I saw many, many others with charts and bios and family history and her career path and everything and her investments and all that stuff that claimed that this is an accurate number. So according to multiple sources, she owns a couple of properties in Texas, including a $1.5 million townhouse in Dallas and a waterfront cabin in Galveston worth, again, about $1.5 million. So I'm not going to tell you how much money my husband makes because it's nobody's business, but it's more than $174,000, and our net worth isn't $9 million. Okay, not even close. So I think these politicians get into some shady stuff through lobbyists and everything else, and they get their pockets lined. They do. They find a way. They do it. It just happens. Hey, you want to make sure you vote for this, and I'll give you that, and they do this, and then all with the USAID and all the stuff. They're getting money from other sources, period, end of story. And I hope every politician in office right now that has a net worth over a few million dollars should be audited with a fine-tooth comb. So I want to take a look at a couple of different politicians, and let's gasp at their net worth together, shall we? I'm going to start by giving you the salaries of common of these leaders and stuff in the Senate and the House of Representatives. So the Speaker of the House of Representatives earns $223,500. Majority leader and minority leader of the House make 193. President pro tempore of the Senate makes 193. Senators and representatives make 174. Non-voting members of the United States House of Representatives make 174. These numbers are as of 2019 and 2018. The ones that I'm going to give you now, these are the top wealthiest members of the United States Congress. So this is through Open Secrets. So these numbers are relatively accurate. And like I said, these are from a few years ago. These do not adjust for inflation or cost of living raises or whatever. This is what it is according to 2019 numbers. So I'm not going to read them all, but I'm just going to read the top few and then kind of give you my insight as to what's going on. So Kevin Hearn is his name. He's a Republican from Oklahoma. He is worth $361 million. Rick Scott of Florida makes 250, or his net worth is 259 million. Mitt Romney, I'm just going to give you familiar names that I knew. Mitt Romney, Republican from Utah, Republican in name only, I will call him Rhino. He's worth $174 million. Let's see. We have Nancy Pelosi, Democrat out of California. She's worth $114 million. And then we have Ron Johnson. He's worth $78 million. Let's see. Mitch McConnell. He's worth $34 million. Let's see. Let's see. Rick Allen, Joe Kennedy. So they just kind of go down. They gradually get smaller and smaller as we go down the line here. Let me see. Jim Cooper. Michael Bennett is worth $15 million. Let's see. Mike Conley. So I guess that's it. And there was another page that did not print. But anyway, there was one name on this list that kind of fascinated me, and it was other politicians who are worth lots and lots of money. And of course, Jared Polis was on that list. He's worth $388 million, and it also gives the reason why they've got all this money. So historical figures, George Washington's in there and Thomas Jefferson and whatever, and they're the reason for their wealth there. It's family wealth. Obviously, the Rockefellers are in there and their family wealth and all that stuff. But as you all know, Jared Polis was the founder of 1-800-PRO-FLOWERS or proflowers.com or whatever. But $388 million. Good grief. That's a lot of money. And one that fascinated me, and the only reason why I even know this place that she runs is because we take our dogs there, but I had no idea that Heidi Ganahl – was the founder and CEO of Camp Bow Wow. Do you guys ever take your dogs to the kennel? So there's several that you can go to, and the kennels are just, I don't know, kennels are kennels, but Camp Bow Wow was our favorite, and that's where we ended up taking our dogs, but I had no idea. I had no idea that she was the founder and CEO of that, so. So these are the names that I listed, and there's still more on my list. I didn't go over all of them, but these are former and current politicians who have gained incredible wealth through different means. And Hillary Clinton, believe it or not, is not on the list, and she's highly suspect, of course. And her name was on a different list, and it said that she gained her wealth from speaking engagements and books. And her book signing and her books that she's published or whatever, but I think it was like $12 million, $11 or $12 million is what she's worth. But there are a couple here that were too poor to make the list, so I'm going to look at a couple of those. Elizabeth Warren – So she and her husband, and I've told you that I know she takes money from Big Pharma. It's the way it is. She's the one that's out there screeching the loudest about everything. So she's about RFK Jr. and the Maha movement. But she and her husband, Bruce Mann, both longtime law professors, hold much of their wealth in retirement accounts. Their TIAA and CREF accounts available to educators and nonprofit employees are worth at least $4 million. They own two homes, a $3 million Victorian in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and an $800,000 condo in Washington, D.C., worth $12 million. That's her net worth. So this is directly from Forbes.com, what I just read you. And what's funny is the first search result in a fact check is, saying that Warren isn't worth $12 million. So that's interesting. So you go to Forbes, and this is what it says on Forbes, but you do a search, and Google's like, nope, nope, she's not worth that much. So which is it, right? So Nancy Pelosi, along with her husband, venture capitalist Paul Pelosi, has an estimated net worth of more than $230 million, right? according to Quiver Quantitative. As Speaker of the House, Pelosi earned $223,000 annually and now earns $174,000 annually as a member of Congress. Stocks in Pelosi's portfolio include shares of Apple, valued between $25 million and $50 million, stocks in Microsoft, Salesforce, Google, and Amazon with each holding worth between 5 million and 25 million. And I'm sure that there was absolutely no insider trading or being the recipient of major kickbacks from laundered foreign aid and USAID bogus program money. None of that, none of that is happening with any of these people. And there's a, um, If you search AOC net worth, it's interesting to do these searches because you see what the Google search, first page search results will show you, and then you go a little bit deeper, and then you find these publications that say, yeah, they're totally worth what you think they're worth, $9 million, $12 million, or in Nancy Pelosi's case, $230 million. So I don't have time to go into all the other uber-rich politicians who make a modest salary, but you get the idea. And until I did the search, I didn't know that there were voting and non-voting members of the House of Representatives. I don't even know what that means. I thought that if you were a member of the House of Representatives that you got to vote on things, but evidently that's not the case. So since I was suspicious of these politicians' wealth and thought about the whole laundering thing as soon as Doge uncovered all these ridiculous programs within USAID and many, many others, as we're finding out, that a lot of mainstream media outlets are covering this information with the same kind of hairy eyeball that I had at the very beginning. As soon as I heard that USAID had these programs, and you've heard me list them off on this show, I think I did it twice and played audio for you from the Doge reports and all that kind of stuff. So you understand that these programs, This money is not going to some guy that's checking the swivel rate of an office chair. He's not getting $4 million to check the swivel rate of the office chairs. You know that. So where is that money going? It's just insanity to me. As I stated before, I don't ever want to hear a single wealthy politician again ever calling for the rich to pay their fair share. or calling for tax hikes, or anything ever again that requires we the people to open our wallets so they can scrape out every last penny that we have. It is absolute lunacy what these people have gotten away with for so long, and the staggering amount of money that they've pilfered from the taxpayers. After the waste, fraud, and abuse was uncovered, I'm hoping that that's a genie that will never be stuffed back in the bottle. The word is out, and I think most people are pretty ticked off about it. One thing that really gets me is the fact that these legislators will receive a lifetime pension after their public service. Yet they say Social Security, the stuff that we can, you know, normal people would rely on to fund our lives after we retire is going to dry up. What am I talking about? It's already dried up. They took all the money probably a long time ago for their pet projects and to pad their own wallets and buy mansions and everything else. It is such a tangled web of corruption, and I'm not sure it's ever going to be completely untangled. So I'm going to talk real briefly. I know we're about out of time, but I want to talk about Fort Knox. So Trump is going to visit Fort Knox with Elon Musk, and I'm getting Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone's vault vibes right now. I don't know why. where he opened up the vault, found nothing. That's going to be interesting. If Fort Knox has no gold, oh boy, that's going to be a big deal. So that's going to do it for me today, you guys. Thanks for spending the last 58 minutes with me in the fastest hour of broadcasting. 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In this riveting episode, we delve into the breaking news of Dan Bongino's appointment as the Deputy Director of the FBI. Join Logan Sekulow as he unpacks the implications of this unexpected career move, examining Bongino's background in law enforcement and broadcasting. With an in-depth analysis, this episode investigates the challenges and opportunities that await Bongino as he steps into a pivotal role within one of America’s most scrutinized institutions.
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We've got breaking news. Dan Bongino reveals plans as deputy FBI director live on air.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekula.
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Welcome to Sekula. Will Haynes is joining me in studio. This is Logan Sekula. And phone lines are open for you. And I'd love to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110 to have your voice heard on the air. Reporting on the breaking news, and he's on air. He was just on air. He may still be. That Dan Bongino has been named Deputy Director of the FBI. Obviously known as a... for his role as a broadcaster. Right. And we're seeing that come out. People are like, how dare President Trump pick this podcaster to do this? Of course, he spent time in law enforcement, spent time in a lot of different places, New York Police Department, the NYPD, and a special agent with the United States Secret Service. And of course, later on, had his broadcast career, whether that's on radio, whether that's on Fox News, or then being one of really the biggest names on the Rumble platform. I think the biggest live streamed show And on the internet is the Dan Bongino show. So the fact that he decided to step away from that and move to this role, really stepping up, and he made some great statements I heard saying that, you know, if you get called upon in these moments, it's not about money. Clearly the guy's making a good living being a broadcaster, but it's time to step up into this situation. So we're going to talk about that as well. Some of the shakeups coming out of NBC and MSNBC, including the announcement that just happened moments ago that Lester Holt, will be stepping down, as well as the cancellation of Joy Reid's program, among other programming shifts happening at the fledgling MSNBC. And again, what I've told you, I believe MSNBC does not fit currently in the portfolio of Universal, Comcast, Xfinity, whatever you want to call it, properties. I always felt that it was very out of place, that this very kind of holistic family entertainment company would decide not only to have a news department, but to have an extremely partisan news department, to be known as the far left when everything else in their business is really trying to reach everyone in the middle, whether that's vacationing or your cable company provider or even shows that are just fun and entertainment. But for some reason, they decided to have this. But we're seeing some big shakeups there, of course, as well as the Dan Bongino news. But, Will, it's a pretty big deal.
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That is, when we saw this come across last night, that President Trump and Kash Patel had decided to place Dan Bongino in this deputy director role, it was an exciting time. We know the criticism, and we'll play some of that in the next segment, that Dan Bongino has had about the way law enforcement in this country has operated, especially during the last four years, and even during the first Trump administration, as you saw yesterday, The FBI still trying in the wake of the Comey scandals to target the presidency and go after him through the deep state. But another interesting thing that makes me a little bit sad about this is that the deputy director of the FBI doesn't need to be Senate confirmed. The deputy secretary of state, other cabinet level deputies. Why does that make you sad? Well, because you know what I would love more than anything in the world? seeing Adam Schiff having to talk to Dan Bongino during a confirmation hearing.
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Trying to out-argue Dan Bongino. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.
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Obviously, I would rather him just be in the position, which he will be, because it's not a Senate-confirmed position. But I am sad that we get to miss out on that great historic moment of Adam Schiff on the Judiciary Committee having to discuss things that maybe he's done with Russiagate in the past as they go through confirmation.
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Hey, phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We'd love to hear from you. And, of course, the news that came out over the weekend where Elon Musk said, hey, we're going to send you a quick email if you're a federal employee. Tell us, what did you do here this week? And of course, you didn't respond. He said, hey, we're going to take that as a resignation. Now, I think Kash Patel pushed back on that. A few others even pushed back on it. But look, I know friends within the government who received this email. And it was pretty basic, to be honest. It was, you know, give us a couple bullet points here. But phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. We would love to hear from you. And of course, congratulations to Dan Bongino, who has been a friend of ours as well for many years and a big supporter. So we appreciate that. All that he's done and another great friend that will be in this cabinet. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Three lines open right now. We have some ACLJ updates as well coming a little bit later. Harry Hutchinson is going to be joining us and Rick Grinnell will be joining us later on as well. So stay tuned for that. Let's go ahead. I'm going to take this call really quick because Adrian called in Chicago on Friday. We just didn't get to you. So we'll make sure I don't put you on hold for any longer. Go ahead.
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Hi, thanks for taking my call. I'm in ground zero. Illinois, Cook County and Chicago is ground zero for corruption. And it seems like each day they come out with more and more things to try to take away the lights and liberty of the people. I'm a past Republican committee woman in the third ward and also I'm a Trump delegate. So I'm really, really passionate about cleaning up this state. I learned today that there's a house bill homeschool registration act that the Democrats are trying to force homeschoolers parents who are homeschooling their children to, um, register a homeschool declaration form, which would is with the Illinois board of education, which would extend essentially mandate homeschoolers to have a declaration form. that they have to fill out, produce an educational portfolio, and comply with medical immunization.
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Very interesting. Adrian, I'm not cutting you off. That's actually a very interesting thing. I'm going to tell our team to make sure we dig in onto that. Because, look, Chicago and Illinois, and I'd say Chicago, much like New York, much like San Francisco, should be sort of our shining cities that everyone looks to. I love Chicago. I love New York. I love Los Angeles. I love San Francisco. But what's happened to them over the years, and of course, it's no shock that Chicago has corruption. I think we have known that for a long time, that Chicago is one of the hotbeds, as well as New York and any of these places. But that doesn't mean we need to give up on them. I don't think we need to give up on cities and states that really are major tourist destinations. They are destinations that are important to our economy. And if they're doing something like this, we need to get to the bottom of it. So Adrian, maybe we could put you on hold and get your info. Can we do that about specifically that bill? Because I think it's something that our team will certainly need to look into and see how we can help out if it is that case.
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And the ACLJ for decades has been supporters of, fought for the rights of homeschool families. We believe in school choice very broadly.
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And Will and I are both homeschooled, at least for portions of our careers.
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We also have... Careers are... We have cases ongoing right now where... cities that are more liberal cities aren't following the law that allows for more freedom of school choice for the parents and so we're fighting those actively right now one's in Ohio one is in New Jersey this is an interesting thing we have gotten involved in on legislative level many times and I am thankful that Adrian called because our attorneys can look at it and see if there's any way that we can either, even if it's a public awareness campaign of something, or if there is something that runs afoul of the Constitution that needs to be looked at with the oversight of the government trying to get too involved with the homeschooling families.
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While we're at it, I'm going to send this message to our media team who's listening and say, we need to probably come up with some sort of video or text. It's very easy to understand of why we are on the side of school choice. Because I think that the... Teachers unions and the educational system that have so indoctrinated people that they have a lot of talking points very quickly, very easily of why it's a bad idea. And of course we know, and I can give you a long winded answer of why we do support school choice and why we think that kids education shouldn't be dedicated based on the zip code that they are born into. But I think we come up with an easier to understand version of that. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. Of course, we're talking about the major news that's coming out of Washington, D.C. as Dan Bongino, who you may know from Fox News, you may know from Rumble, but you may not know from his time at the NYPD or as a member of the Secret Service, a special agent with the Secret Service, has now been named the FBI deputy director. Now, this, as Will said, is not a confirmed position, so he could start pretty much immediately. I was listening to his show before we went on air today as he made this official announcement, and he talked about that, that this will probably be starting the wrap-up of his broadcast over the next few days.
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I believe he said he's going to have three. three shows left. So if you look at that midweek, you're probably done with that portion of his career, at least for now. And then he will be making the jump to the Hoover building at the FBI.
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up we could play uh this is from again minutes ago dan bongino uh took to rumble again the largest show and look i would love to have that claim too the largest live stream broadcast uh on the internet is dan bongino so again he's not taking this lightly not taking this job lightly he certainly doesn't need it from a financial standpoint uh but let's hear from dan bongino from just a few minutes ago vision of president trump attorney general bondi and director patel
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I am going to do my job to implement that vision. And I can tell you right now, we are going to try our best. Every single thing I have in me, every single strand of DNA cell in my body is going to be dedicated towards keeping this homeland safe, no matter what. No matter what, that's my job. We're going to reestablish faith in this institution and the good people there doing their job, hitting the streets, developing sources. We'll have your back. We are going to reestablish faith in this institution. The FBI belongs to the American people. Doesn't belong to me. Doesn't belong to anyone else but the American people. But this is the honor of a lifetime. And it's a serious mission. And I plan on implementing that vision.
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There you go. There's Dan Bongino. We'll have more from him as well later on. And again, a guy who's been a friend of ours, has been someone who we know is supportive of a lot of the causes and missions. We have members of his team who now work here, especially from his Fox News days. So again, phone lines are open. I'd like to hear from you at 1-800-684-3110. Again, 1-800-684-3110. If you're just joining us on Rumble, hello. Sorry, we had a glitch there. I think maybe there was just so many people going to Rumble to watch Dan Bongino play. that maybe we had a problem there, but welcome. I'm glad you're here. And for those watching on YouTube as well, if you're brand new on YouTube, I always encourage you to subscribe. If you've never seen us before, if you have seen us before and you like what we do here, we're starting to wrap up the month of February. Can you believe we're here? End of the week will be the end of this month. We could really use your support because we are there right now fighting for the things you care so deeply about. And one of those things is, of course, the fight for life. We're engaged in 182 pro-life legal matters just over the last year. And we have a lot going on, Will, even this week. And today, we'll even step in and fight for the unborn. It's what our team does. You'll hear from them from time to time. You'll hear a lawyer pop in and talk about it. You'll hear from Harry Hutchinson and CeCe Heil, obviously. But even last week, you had pastors that were on the streets that were being arrested just for simply preaching the gospel. Having that case won incredibly fast, thrown out. Because we're able to put a lawyer with that client at absolutely no cost because of people like you who support the work of the ACLJ. So I'm going to ask you to take action right now. And then we're going to take some calls. Take action today. Become an ACLJ champion. Give now at ACLJ.org. And to get a champion is someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. We're going to be joined in the next segment by Harry Hutchinson, as well as Rick Grinnell will be joining us a little bit later. Let's go ahead and take a phone call. Again, phone lines are open for you. I'd love to hear from you. James is calling in North Carolina. Watch it on Facebook. James, you're on the air.
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Hey, how are y'all today? My question is, and this is the problem with government. I used to work with the government, but yet our elected politicians have become multimillionaires. When is Donald Trump going to appoint a special counsel to investigate our congressmen and our senators who have became wealthy over the years off the tax dollar? That's a problem, and it should be investigated. Then we can really expose the corruption in this country where these people are called out. Look at Nancy Pelosi. She's worth $250 million. Look at Harry Reid, the old Democrat senator. Look at Mitch McConnell. These people need to be exposed, and I'm going to tell you, if they wouldn't let Matt Gaetz in the FBI, Donald Trump would appoint Matt Gaetz as a special counsel to investigate these people.
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You know, James, I think one thing that will maybe to some degree make... those of us that are conservatives not as happy is that unfortunately, but fortunately, because they're following the Constitution, and Dan Bongino has talked about this, is that the difference in the way that we follow the rule of law is that when you see a crime, you investigate the crime and then find who it leads to. What the Democrats did is they would just investigate people until they found a crime. And that's not the way it's supposed to work. Now, unfortunately, much of what these congressmen and senators do is on the books legal because they have access to a lot of information. And they're not barred from trading stock and actively trading off the information they're getting. And there's many in Congress trying to pass bills that would put an end to that. But to some degree, yes. Now, is there other corruption? I can't prove it with the documents right now, but certainly you see public officials that that do break laws. And then if the attorney general finds that they can move forward with cases against them.
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Yep. And hey, phone lines are open, as I've said, 1-800-684-3110. And Professor Harry Hutchinson is joining us in the next segment. We'll keep discussing Dan Bongino as well as the impact on the ACLJ. What does that look like with our Freedom of Information Act request? And we'll connect all of those dots coming up in the next segment. And Rick Grinnell will be joining us in the second half hour of the broadcast. You want to stay tuned. Again, support the work of the ACLJ. If you can right now, take action. Become an ACLJ champion. That's someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis automatically. Of course, you can cancel any time. And it's tax deductible. But you can scan the QR code on your screen right now. Become an ACLJ champion. I got five lines open right now. So this is a great time to call in. 1-800-684-3110. What do you think about Dan Bongino? Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are jammed right now, but they're going to open up. Make sure our phone screeners are on it because, man, it's ringing right now. Let's get everyone on hold. We'll do our best to get as many calls as we can over the next half an hour that we are with you. I want to welcome Harry Hutcherson to the studio right now. We are just going to restate if you're just joining us right now. Well, Dan Bongino has been named the deputy director of the FBI. Maybe we need to go over a little bit of what that position even holds, because obviously, you know, Kash Patel is the head of the FBI. Well, what does this look like for Dan Bongino? It's not a confirmed position, so he doesn't have to go through the rigorous confirmation process. Seems like he will just be able to start work here a bit later this week.
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That's right. So officially, the deputy director is appointed by the director of the FBI, so Kash Patel. So on paper, even though President Trump announced it and obviously was advising in this as well, that the way that this works is the director of the FBI appoints the deputy director. And it is the second in command. If there is a vacancy, that person becomes acting director. And it's the highest position attainable in the FBI without being appointed directly by the president of the United States. So in theory, Kash Patel could have just done this on his own. Obviously, we know that they are walking in lockstep with the president and the very much trying to rebuild the FBI. Dan Bongino on his show even said, you know, we want to rebuild the faith in this institution. And Professor Hutchison, that's one of the concerns that I know everyone listening and watching this broadcast has had and that we share is that the faith in the FBI was completely shattered over really the last eight years, really with james comey and the way he meddled in the 2016 election with his statement about hillary clinton then pulling it back then reopening it and then immediately after sending spies into the trump white house uh because he could that was literally the statement he said sending agents into the white house to try and start to target administration officials um When you look at this and the work that we've done at the ACLJ, we have six open cases against the FBI. They are FOIAs that have turned into lawsuits. Going back to the Comey spies, the abuse of FISA in Section 702, the politicization of social media platforms and the censorship there, the anti-Catholic memo that they said it was first just out of Richmond. Then we knew it was nationwide and they wanted it to be a national directive. The selective leaking of whistleblowers. We've also defended and currently are still defending one whistleblower in federal court. The other we got him restored his security clearance and pay. And then also that thing right there at the end. where the FBI at the National Academy unilaterally declared a state of Palestine. And you had Director Wray right there as they welcomed someone from the state of Palestine that they had been training at the National Academy. All of these things diminish the trust in the institution. How important is it that we have these people in there to help continue this work that we do at the ACLJ?
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Well, it's very, very important. And so I think virtually everyone who's been alive for the last seven to eight years, perhaps even 10 years, realizes that the FBI has not operated as an even-handed organization. It has basically put its thumb on the scale with respect to particular targets. Keep in mind that the investigations targeting Donald Trump actually commenced in 2015. We had the operation called Hurricane Crossfire. which was initiated by the FBI. We had Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Andrew McCabe, and other individuals who were involved arguably in a conspiracy to prevent Donald Trump from assuming office in 2016. And it almost worked. So what we have seen over the last couple of days is absolutely fabulous news for the American people who are interested in the rule of law. And so President Trump's announcement that Don Bongino is the next deputy director of the FBI is triggering seismologists who suggest that this announcement has led to an increase in Google searches among deep state operatives. They're looking for defense attorneys. Trump's appointment may mean that Andrew McCabe, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page may already be quaking in their boots, unless, of course, the statute of limitations has run out.
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Well, what's interesting with this is when you look at what President Trump is doing compared to even the last time. So you look back, you said 2016, we were headed towards that being a decade ago now, nine years ago that all of this was happening. Now we are headed towards the 10th year. We're heading to the second Trump presidency. It's somewhat because of that time. you are able to now see him put in people who, again, are not necessarily establishment, are not necessarily uncontroversial. I mean, I wouldn't put Bongino as one of the more controversial, but he would be purely based on maybe the brand that he has had the last handful of years, whether that, again, was someone who was a Fox News host, was one of the really big personalities on Rumble, our favorite free speech platform, our friends over at Rumble. But again, has a deep background in, and fully qualified for this. So he's picking people that are going to go in, they can be strong, they're not playing politics, but are at least qualified. And I think that's the weird trajectory people, and really the weird point of view that people keep saying is that Trump keeps picking people that are unqualified. Show me one of these people that aren't qualified. I had a conversation with a family member recently, and they were like, oh, that person, I think it was, it may have been Pete Hexeth. And they're not qualified. Well, what makes him not qualified? And we went down his record, what he's done, where he's worked. It's only because he's a Fox News host. You don't take into consideration anything else. And I think that's going to be the same. But again, they can go in and actually get work done. Honestly, they're used to working in very high-pressure situations, whether that is working for the NYPD, whether that's working for the Secret Service. And I hate to break it to you, working for Fox News. Those are not... Stress-free environments, as many of you know, whoever worked in production.
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You got to have, you got to be pretty strong. Well, and you mentioned that Politico's headline, Trump names podcaster Dan Bongino to be second in command at FBI. This is the same way that they tried to smear others like Sean Duffy. It was Trump picks reality TV star. They completely leave out that he was a district attorney. Yeah. a member of the House of Representatives, and they just go for the low hanging fruit of where they can try to diminish these people in the minds of the American people to make you think it's not a serious pick. So just because Dan Bongino has a very popular show and reaches a lot of people, he is all of a sudden not qualified. All of his background in law enforcement is disregarded. He's just a podcaster. This isn't serious pick. You should be terrified of what's going to happen here in the United States. It's disgusting.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome to Sekulow. I'm Logan Sekulow. Will Haines joining me in the studio. Rick Grinnell's going to be with us in the next segment. And of course, we get to hear from you, the most important voices in the room. Let's go ahead and kick off with one of those. And of course, we're addressing the breaking news item. Came out last night as the Dan Bongino has taken the gig as the deputy director of the FBI. Dan Bongino, someone who we've been friendly with over the years. Good guy. And another exciting pick. For Kash Patel and for President Trump. Let's go ahead and take a phone call about this, though. Let's go to Patricia, who's calling in Idaho on line three. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hello. Thank you for having me on. I just have to say I am truly going to miss Dan Montagino. I really love what he always has to put out there for everybody to hear. And he always speaks the truth.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, Patricia, I'm sure there's a lot of people like you who enjoy his broadcast who sadly won't have it. Now, I don't think this will be the last we hear from Dan Bongino, but for a time, it may go a little quieter, but we're actually going to see the kind of real work he can get done. But yeah, Patricia, I think that him getting this gig, though, is very important for the American people. What do you think?
SPEAKER 11 :
I think so. I think what he knows when he's been there before, he's going to do a great job. He's going to help a lot of people. He's going to open a lot of people's eyes that haven't really opened their eyes yet.
SPEAKER 06 :
Patricia, worldwide, we're talking about a very different administration. We're seeing President Trump and his administration meeting with some very interesting people. I mean, right now, as we're speaking, President Trump just greeted the French President Macron at the White House. All of this is happening at sort of lightning speed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and also Dan Bongino on his show today, he said he is committed to service. He said that the vision of President Trump, A.G. Bondi and Director Patel, he will work to implement. He wants to get back to the four corners of the Constitution. And he also said that he won't rest easy until they find as many bad people as possible. And he framed that as drug traffickers, cartels, people that are in human trafficking. Verifiably bad people. Right. And so while we are excited that the FBI is hopefully going to clean house. It's also important to remember that they aren't like the Democrats in the deep state, that the only thing they're going to focus on are the bad actors within the government. They also care about the core mission of the FBI, which is to keep Americans safe from legitimate bad people that could do you harm.
SPEAKER 06 :
As Harry said just a little bit ago, 10 years ago, this would have been, it would sound horrible, it would sound unpatriotic. really, to be out there saying that the FBI was doing these kind of things. But now we know really what happened, and now it's time for the FBI to get back on course. We need the FBI. We need the CIA. We need all of these security intel organizations. We have Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. We need all of these departments to actually be doing their job and their stated reason to exist. Because that is what is important. That's what's going to keep us safe. Not going after pro-lifers, not going after radical traditional Catholics or whatever they call them. To actually go after people that are terrorizing this country. Whether, again, that's through the drug trafficking, whether that's through fentanyl, whether that is child trafficking. All these things, and again, as Will said, are not controversial. They're verifiably bad. And hopefully they will get back on track. And they've seen really big problems with everyone. Everyone has suffered from those crises. No family has been untouched. I want to hear from you. Two lines are open. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. Well, Will, why don't you tease it a little bit? We got Rick Grinnell coming up next. What are we going to talk about?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. We've got a few things on deck. One, the president of Ukraine made a very interesting claim of what he'd be willing to do If Ukraine, either there was peace or they were able to join NATO, something that President Trump has said is off the table. And also there was an election in Germany that Rick has special insight into. We'll get his take on that and why it matters for you as an American and the rest of the world.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, one of the other things I want to talk to Rick Grinnell about, the New York Times tried to do a hit piece on Rick Grinnell this weekend saying, how dare he try to bring the story and the birth of Jesus to Christmastime at the Kennedy Center as he has taken up control and leadership there. And of course they thought, how dare he do this? It's hilarious. We were texting about it this week, and I'm going to bring that up as well. Again, phone lines are open for you. 1-800-684-3110. If you become an ACLJ champion and you let our phone screener know, you get bumped to the front of the line to get your call answered. That's a little perk. Welcome back to Sekulow. Will Haynes joining me in studio today. And Rick Grinnell's joining us live today. Coming off of a fun weekend at CPAC. Look, we're going to get to some really important, look, all this is very important, but some serious topics coming up as we've seen President Trump making statements about what's going on with Russia, Ukraine. He's currently meeting France. You've got Dan Bongino being named the deputy director. But I did want to start this because I teased it in the last segment. Rick, we were texting over the weekend because you've made a controversial statement at CPAC. You said, that the Kennedy Center at Christmastime, how dare you, is going to honor the birth of Christ and tell the story of the birth of Christ at Christmastime at the Kennedy Center. And the New York Times said, how dare this Trump appointee come in here and want to talk about Jesus during Christmas.
SPEAKER 01 :
They were so pathetic in their reporting. It was so pandering. It was so They were treating me like I was just a dumb, you know, young, naive person to think that you would want to put a story of the birth of Christ at Christmas at the Kennedy Center. But that's exactly what we're doing. It's going to be big. Wait until the announcement. We have a production team working on it now. It's fantastic. It is big. And most people are just gonna say, well, of course you should be celebrating Christ at Christmas. How controversial is that? But it's controversial in Washington, D.C. It's controversial in the newsrooms of Washington, D.C. The New York Times is rolling their eyes and they just think we're so parochial. And so I'm looking forward to it. This is exactly what President Trump has been talking about is saying Merry Christmas again at Christmas time. I think this goes to the heart of what JD Vance's speech was at the Munich Security Conference talking about canceling people when they have a different opinion or uh canceling someone who doesn't share the woke uh view and so we're gonna say merry christmas we're gonna celebrate the birth of christ and we're not gonna apologize for it right exactly i think hey you mentioned music it's a good segue because you obviously were uh the ambassador to germany you know that very well we're coming on the heels of a pretty important weekend in germany well
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right. And I told our audience before this segment that it's always good. We've had you on many times after there's been either an election or some sort of move in Germany to kind of explain to our audience why the politics of another country over in Europe. matters and means something here in the United States. It would be a disservice to have you on today as the former ambassador to Germany and explain to our audience what happened a little bit and what it means as you look at a changing Europe and with the Trump administration in office as well.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, Germany is the largest economy in Europe, and so many believe that Germany leads Europe. When you talk about the manufacturing base, the car industry, Bayer Pharmaceuticals, they've got some really behemoth companies in Europe. It's the most business friendly country in Europe as well. And so it does matter. I don't think it matters as much as the Washington, D.C. types think it does. But imagine this, Will. They had a vote in Germany. The entire country voted on Sunday. And they announced the results like an hour and a half later. And so we knew exactly who won. And the situation is this, is that Chancellor Angela Merkel's party is called the Christian Democrats, the CDU. They have traditionally been the lead party. They win the most votes and they usually get into, you know, 35, sometimes even 40 percent of the vote. Well, they got into the high 20s. this one and the far right party which is called the alternative for deutschland afd uh usually gets around seven or eight percent far right however they got 21 of the vote and so what does that mean it means that the traditional center-right party is so uh watered down it's filled with people who really don't want to make change they don't want to make progress so there's a huge frustration in germany and people started voting for the the far right the afd party in record numbers again they got 21 of the vote unbelievable amount and this is the party that elon musk uh was talking about and and supporting look my attitude is that i just wish that the center-right party the christian democrats would get their act together that they could be a solid conservative party and grow back into their 40 45 even maybe even 50 but because they've been so poorly run uh they're really losing votes and this other party kind of climbed forward i don't think it's too too much different than the Republican Party and Donald Trump. Where Republicans were losing, Trump came along and redefined the party, brought in Democrats, brought in Libertarians, completely changed everything, and we pulled in, as Republicans, a whole bunch of people who just were filled with common sense. That's what the CDU has to do, but they're really at the bottom of the barrel. This is one of their worst performances And I'll finish with this. Their leader is a guy named Mertz. And he, after he won, criticized Donald Trump. Now, throughout the whole campaign, he really kept his mouth shut because he wanted Trump's support. And he's been reaching out to all sorts of Trump team members. But right after he won, he criticized Trump. He's not off to a great start. Friedrich Merz is his name, and I just have to say that his duplicitousness is the exact reason why the CDU is not winning in bigger numbers.
SPEAKER 06 :
I wanted to move our attention because we've only got a few minutes left here with you, Rick, and talk about what's going on in the negotiations to hopefully end the war in Russia and Ukraine. President Trump made a statement just a few minutes ago, actually, on Truth Social. Will, we have that, right? That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's meeting with President Macron of France, but he also wrote, at the same time, I'm in serious discussions. with President Vladimir Putin of Russia concerning the ending of the war and also major economic development transactions will take place between the United States and Russia. Talks are proceeding very well. We saw a statement from Vladimir Zelensky that said, if there's peace or if Ukraine can join NATO, I'd be willing to resign. Obviously, The president that canceled elections because of war didn't like being called a dictator by the president of the United States. So now he's trying to show I'll get out of the way if we can get to the big goal of NATO. What is your read? I know things are very fluid because that's the way negotiations work. But of kind of where we're at right now when it comes to ending this war.
SPEAKER 01 :
I'm not sure that we're going to trade getting rid of Zelensky for a NATO membership. That sounds like not a good deal. Look, what I think that the Ukrainian president should have said is as soon as we sign a peace deal, we'll have elections and I won't run. That would be a better message to say, you know, this future of Ukraine is about someone else. And so we've got to be able to right now negotiate an end of the war. Let me say a couple of things that I think are really important. One is we handed Joe Biden peace in Europe and peace in the Middle East. Joe Biden handed Donald Trump a war in Europe and a war in the Middle East. So we're a little bit annoyed that we have really poor choices left because we have wars everywhere after really cleaning up the mess and launching into peace deals. Now we have to go back and make really poor choices against really bad choices. We don't have a lot of great options, but Donald Trump is absolutely going to be the one in the middle drive a peace agreement, end this war. And to do that, to be a diplomat in the middle, both sides have to be able to say they like you and don't like you. You can't be one sided. You've got to be right in the middle. And that's exactly what President Trump is focused on, is stopping the war and letting everybody else kind of scream and holler about he's pro this, he's anti this. And Donald Trump is very comfortable as a negotiator being right in the middle.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
Hi. Hey.
SPEAKER 06 :
Go ahead. Leslie?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, I'm here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, go ahead with your comment.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I love Dan Bongino, but I am thrilled that he has decided to go back into public service. I listened to him today and he encouraged all Americans, especially Patriots to get into public service. I'm a public servant for the state of Texas. And I just know that we need more patriots. And I could not be happier about Dan Bongino stepping into that role.
SPEAKER 07 :
Leslie, Dan Bongino said today, you know, he talks about often that do matters, like what you do matters. It's not just about talking about it. And he's saying, I would be hypocritical. I wouldn't be true to what I say anymore. if when given this opportunity i didn't take the opportunity to do something not just talk about it and i think you know you look at this he's built as we said one of the largest shows streaming shows on the internet as well as a large terrestrial radio broadcast this is not an insignificant decision to put service to the country over comfort i mean right now he's pretty comfortable he's he makes millions of dollars, I would assume. I don't have firsthand knowledge of his contracts. Yeah, we could just assume. But that he is doing very well being a voice and being something that is entertaining, speaking truth to power through broadcasting. And he's deciding that he's going to step away from all that, the comfort of that, and go put himself in the political crosshairs, so to speak, by being at the center of reforming the FBI with Kash Patel. I think it is a testament to his integrity and That he means what he says. He's not just another talking head. And it is. It's refreshing to see people. I mean, you can say the same about many of the people in even the cabinet, whether it be Pete Hegseth, whether it be, I mean, even Pam Bondi and those that have high profiles. Look, Tulsi Gabbard.
SPEAKER 06 :
And she's one of our contributors here for a couple of years there. We know that these are not insignificant roles that they were taken. But yeah, it's good to see him take on this. We will miss his voice for sure. But I have a feeling this is not the last you will hear from Dan Bongino. Let's go ahead and take some more calls. Let's go to Ann calling on Washington State on line four. Ann, you're on the air. And hey, this is the perfect time. Last chance. For real, last chance. We have five minutes left in the broadcast. Call in 1-800-684-3110. Ann, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thank you so much. I appreciate what you do. Long-time supporter. I was thinking, Rick just talked about Christmas, and it's like Christmas every day. You know, all the wonderful things that are happening, the things that are discovered, and the appointments. And so I just wanted to say I was thrilled with Dan Bongino joining Cash. And I wanted to say that 45 communist goals that were read into the congressional record in 1963, I printed out a number of years ago. And it is stunning to see how far the communists have come, like infiltrate the press, gain control of key positions in radio, TV, eliminate laws, break down cultural standards, present homosexuality. It goes on and on. There's 45 of them. But number 35 is discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI. So that was their plan initially. Just let it kind of self-destruct. And now we have this miracle of God and it's going to be resurrected into something that it was established to be in the first place.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I think that's a lot of people's opinions is mainly it's not that we think there should be no FBI. There should be no Secret Service. There should be no CIA. That's ridiculous. What we think they need to be is actually doing the jobs that we intended them to do get them back on task and what you hopefully have is someone like Bongino as well as Kash Patel as well as President Trump and the whole administration Tulsi Gabbard and National Intelligence you have a great group Attorney General Pampandi that can go in there and actually get things back the way they were supposed to be it's not about necessarily just going in and rooting out the bad people or the bad things happening it's reestablishing trust and I think Dan Bongino even said that today it's about making sure you trust your FBI not about removing the FBI and getting rid of all the great people that probably work there still, that have been under the control of people who they could not have anything to combat with. It's about getting it back on track. Let's go to Bob, who's calling on line two. Bob, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hi. In the spirit of citizen protection under the U.S. Constitution, theoretically, if Adam Schiff were I'm indicted for suborning the perjury of Eric Cheromelo. Could they investigate his financial connections, and could that snowball and unravel all of the dirty dealing in Congress?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Bob, there is kind of a bit of a problem with investigating Adam Schiff for many of that, and that is because Joe Biden gave a full and unconditional pardon to the members of Congress who served on the Select Committee to investigate the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol. It reads very broad. I'm sure if that was the fight they really wanted to pick, there may be angles or loopholes, but one, I don't think... that it would be seen well won by the courts because of the full and unconditional pardon for any act they may have committed or taken part in arising from or in any manner related to the activities or subject matter of the select committee to investigate January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol. It reads pretty broad. I don't think that there's a lot of loopholes there and i don't really see that that's going to be what the department of justice is going after at this time but i mean in theory if someone's investigated and when they start investigating they find more crimes yes that is how a typical law enforcement investigation would operate but i don't see that happening i know that a lot of people don't want to hear that but i also think it's time to move on. He's a senator. He's in the minority in the Senate. And maybe we just isolate him there and try to keep him from doing any more damage to the country.
SPEAKER 06 :
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